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[01:23] <facenew> OT: a 30-min movie mocking kim jong il and his secret agent buying something from china: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EE52D9ED01495685
[01:23] <mdke> surely on the cusp between on-topic and off-topic
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[03:33] <jdub> hrm
[03:33] <jdub> what's with elementtree not working with python2.5?
[03:34] <jdub> oh, perhaps it was included with python2.5
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[04:45] <BradonH> just looking for feedback on an idea i had. Launchpad is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/voip-tech-support
[04:53] <BradonH> maybe ill try the #ubuntu irc..
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[05:01] <jdong> cjwatson: ping; is it possible for future backports processing to note the corresponding LP bug # in the changelog? That'd be really helpful for the UWN guys who try to document dapper/edgy updates in each issue
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[05:19] <somerville32> jdong: How would it help me?
[05:19] <somerville32> jdong: Are backports upload notifications not sent to -changes ml?
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[05:35] <jdong> somerville32: it is sent to $distro-changes
[05:35] <somerville32> Right
[05:35] <somerville32> We simply list backports
[05:36] <somerville32> Why would we need to refer to the bug reports for them?
[05:36] <jdong> somerville32: sometimes certain backports have more significance than "it's just a backport".... with my free time I'd like to expand on at least some of them
[05:36] <somerville32> Ah, ok
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[05:36] <somerville32> Sounds fair enough
[05:36] <jdong> and if I'm not around for doing that it'd be cool if others can do the same :)
[05:36] <jdong> just trying to think how I could make that easier to do
[05:37] <jdong> somerville32: like most notably, the recently built p7zip backport implements multithreaded compress and decompression for 7zip, which is a BIG deal for dual/quad-core users
[05:37] <jdong> and lzma is now easy enough that a caveman can use it (tm)
[05:37] <somerville32> Oh my
[05:37] <somerville32> :)
[05:38] <jdong> if not mentioned I doubt 90% of our user base would figure that out on their own... and being able to see the backport LP bug that led to a particular backport would be enlightening to a degree for those who like to "screen" their updates
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[06:12] <Chipzz> jdong: those who like to screen their updates would install apt-listchanges? :)
[06:12] <jdong> Chipzz: well, having it in a weekly magazine like form makes more sense :)
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[06:13] <jdong> like look at FWN
[06:13] <jdong> they have full blog-style changelogs for all their updates :)
[06:13] <jdong> all 80 bazillion
[06:14] <Chipzz> fwn = fridge weekly news?
[06:15] <jdong> fedora
[06:15] <Chipzz> is apt-listchanges installed by default btw?
[06:16] <Chipzz> might be a good idea, given that the news file sometimes has quite important information
[06:17] <jdong> no, it's not by default...
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[07:13] <Kano> hi, please update mc in feisty. it is broken badly!
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[07:29] <Mez> cjwatson, ping regarding devscripts
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[08:29] <owh> Greetings. On Jan 2 I sent an email to the u-devel list as suggested by sistpoty. I didn't receive any replies. I am not sure if I asked the wrong question, or broke any etiquette rules, but would like some feedback. This is the message: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel/23154,
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[08:32] <Mithrandir> owh: you might just have asked a question not many people are interested in.  Your mail isn't inappropriate, at least.
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[08:33] <owh> Mithrandir: That's something then :-)
[08:33] <owh> How would I best go about soliciting feedback?
[08:33] <owh> I am reluctant to implement new functionality as a bug fix.
[08:34] <tepsipakki> something in feisty decides to remove my .Xauthority on login
[08:34] <Mithrandir> owh: once Martin Pitt (pitt) shows up, you might want to talk to him, he's been doing most of the work on removable devices, etc, where fat is most common.
[08:34] <Mithrandir> owh: sorry, pitti is his irc nick.
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[08:35] <Mithrandir> CET, so he should be around soonish.
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[08:36] <owh> Mithrandir: Excellent. Thanks for that.
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[08:36] <mjg59> I have no idea what time my body thinks it is
[08:40] <LaserJock> where is the sprint being held this time?
[08:40] <tepsipakki> Oslo?
[08:41] <tepsipakki> Laserjock: ^
[08:41] <LaserJock> oh yeah
[08:42] <mjg59> Yeah
[08:42] <LaserJock> seems like that would be a fun place to visit
[08:43] <owh> Sprint?
[08:43] <LaserJock> although I've always wanted to go for my Nobel acceptance speech ;-)
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[08:45] <LaserJock> although I'm not sure Physical Chemists fair to well winning Nobel's
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[08:45] <LaserJock> I guess I'll just have to resign myself to making Ubuntu core-dev one of these days ;-)
[08:46] <owh> LaserJock: One step at a time...
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[08:51] <olympionex> what source does the livecd use for setting up the /etc/passwd when booting?  Something appears to be overwriting the /etc/passwd file in the squashfs.  I've checked the initrd, and preseeding and unionfs branches, but I don't see it yet.
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[08:59] <owh> pitti: Have you got a few moments to talk about FAT32?
[08:59] <pitti> owh: hi; not sure whether I'm the right one to talk to, but what's up?
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[09:01] <LaserJock> olympionex: could it be when the Livecd user is set up?
[09:01] <owh> pitti: I have been debugging dosfstools with sistpoty and sent an email to u-devel about some feature development. I would like some feedback on the message. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel/23154
[09:02] <owh> pitti: I was told by Mithrandir:  that you have been working with removable drives where lots of FAT happens.
[09:03] <pitti> owh: I'll take a look at it in a bit (we'll have a talk now)
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[09:04] <owh> pitti: We, as in you and I, or you and others where you are?
[09:05] <pitti> owh: distro team meeting/sprint in Oslo, just started 5 minutes ago :)
[09:06] <owh> Cool
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[09:07] <Mithrandir> pitti: I didn't know whom to point owh to, but you was my best guess. :-)  Feel free to redirect if you think somebody else is better/more appropriate.
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[09:08] <pitti> Mithrandir: sure
[09:12] <olympionex> LaserJock: I believe that is what I'm looking for.  Where is that user setup?
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[09:23] <LaserJock> olympionex: I think there is some casper script that does it. I'm not positive about that though
[09:28] <Mithrandir> olympionex: casper preseeds the debconf db and calls the appropriate bit of user-setup
[09:29] <Mithrandir> bhale: you're the winner of a main inclusion report for serpentine.  muine needs it.
[09:32] <olympionex> Mithrandir: where are those preseed configurations located?  I found the ubuntu.seed which has very little, so it must be after that
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[09:35] <Mithrandir> olympionex: in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/10adduser
[09:35] <olympionex> Mithrandir: thank you
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[09:49] <dholbach> good morning
[09:50] <simira> morning :)
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[10:04] <Mithrandir> seb128: gnome-applets need an upload; new libobbs soname.
[10:07] <dholbach> hey simira
[10:08] <dholbach> Mithrandir: can you tell me, once you get libgtksourceviewmm out of binary NEW? (it's not urgent, just nice to know) :)
[10:10] <fabbione> Mithrandir: can i come close to you and look how SRU are done at archive management level? (yeah know.. glibc.. stuff like that :))
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[10:13] <jonibo> where does one report packaging bugs...?
[10:14] <jonibo> gnome-applets has bad dependency on liboobs.
[10:14] <Mithrandir> fabbione: "q -Q unapproved -s edgy-updates accept glibc" you mean? :-)
[10:14] <fabbione> jonibo: launcpad
[10:14] <fabbione> launchpad.net ^^
[10:14] <jonibo> but "gnome-applets" does not use launchpad for bug tracking...
[10:14] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yeah :)
[10:14] <Mithrandir> jonibo: don't.
[10:14] <jonibo> it is not an upstream bug but a packaging bug.
[10:14] <Mithrandir> jonibo: a) it's already reported, b) it will be fixed automatically with the new gnome today.
[10:15] <jonibo> ok... thanks.
[10:15] <jonibo> but for future reference, how would I have reported it... launchpad does not accept bugs for this package.
[10:15] <fabbione> jonibo: yes it does.. you just didn't look in the right place
[10:16] <jonibo> fabbione: where? i am looking at it now and do not see it...
[10:16] <Mithrandir> jonibo: if you go https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets and you can choose "report a bug"
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[10:18] <jonibo> got it!  thanks.
[10:21] <owh> pitti: I'm just going to cook some meat on the barbie, but I'll be back.
[10:25] <seb128> jonibo: no need of open bugs about bad Dependencies during unstable cycle, they are automatically listed
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[12:06] <Mithrandir> doko: python 2.5 includes python-chardet, was it so?  Should I remove it from the archive, then?
[12:07] <ajmitch> Mithrandir: fire away
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[12:10] <Mithrandir> ajmitch: look at the bugs ubuntu-archive is subscribed to and with status=needsinfo
[12:11] <doko> Mithrandir: is it?
[12:11] <doko> I don't think so
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[12:13] <Mithrandir> doko: or some other python package I uploaded.
[12:17] <StevenK> 2.5 incles cytpes, I'm not certain if any others have been subsumed into it
[12:17] <ajmitch> celementtree, iirc
[12:17] <ajmitch> so there are a few 
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[12:18] <pochu> maybe elementtree also?
[12:18] <pochu> :)
[12:19] <ajmitch> sure, there is a list of them
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[12:29] <Mithrandir> hi Scott
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[12:30] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: 51149 > I thought I fixed this in dapper..
[12:30] <Keybuk> hey Tollef
[12:30] <Keybuk> greetings from heathrow ...
[12:30] <Keybuk> NB: I hate (a) flying (b) eyas
[12:31] <ogra_> yay, Scott is coming !
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[12:31] <Mithrandir> seb128: speaking og gnome control center, can you tell me why I don't have a control center menu item?
[12:31] <Keybuk> they typo'd my passport number on my ETA to Sydney ... which was fun to sort out at the check-in desk
[12:32] <Keybuk> and for an encore, booked my connecting flight to Oslo on the day *before* mthe previous leg arrived :p
[12:32] <bhale> Mithrandir: sorry, are you sure? 'apt-cache showsrc muine | grep serpentine'
[12:32] <Keybuk> which is always fun to find out after 24h on a plane
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[12:34] <fabbione> Keybuk: having fun eh?
[12:34] <Keybuk> fabbione: categorically, no!
[12:35] <Keybuk> the bright side is that the cheapest way to get me on the flight today was to send me Business Class, so I'm stocking up on the free coffee and muffins
[12:35] <Mithrandir> bhale: hmm, no.  It was on feisty_probs.html for a while.
[12:35] <fabbione> Keybuk: ehehe
[12:35] <Keybuk> which prevents me from eating the Tim Tams I bought for you all
[12:36] <thom> heh
[12:36] <bhale> Mithrandir: there was a muine cd burner plugin, but we never packaged it
[12:36] <iwj> Keybuk: So are you going to be late or will you make the flight originally intended ?
[12:36] <bhale> separate source
[12:37] <bhale> shrug :)
[12:37] <Keybuk> iwj: I'm on the flight I originally intended to be on :)
[12:37] <iwj> ... and upgraded.  Excellent :-).
[12:37] <Keybuk> how is Oslo anyway?  cold and snowy, I hope?
[12:38] <iwj> Yes, cold and some snow.
[12:38] <Keybuk> it will make a refreshing change after the 40'C in Sydney
[12:38] <Mithrandir> bhale: well, if it's fixed itself, I'm happy.
[12:39] <StevenK> Keybuk: It so wasn't 40.
[12:39] <Keybuk> StevenK: it was on Sunday :-/
[12:39] <bhale> Mithrandir: alright, if it turns out to be a real problem please hit me with the clue bat
[12:39] <StevenK> Hrm. I don't remember it being 40.
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[12:58] <seb128> Mithrandir: do you have a gnomecc.desktop to /etc/xdg/menus/settings.menu?
[12:59] <Mithrandir> seb128: looks like it, yes.
[12:59] <seb128> Mithrandir: what version of gnome-panel is installed? did you restart your panel since you updated it?
[01:00] <Mithrandir> ii  gnome-panel    2.16.2-0ubuntu4 launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2
[01:00] <Mithrandir> I think I've rebooted since, so yes.
[01:00] <seb128> version is correct
[01:00] <seb128> could you try to restart the panel in case?
[01:01] <Mithrandir> seb128: my user isn't a member of the admin group, though
[01:01] <seb128> Mithrandir: should not make a difference
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[02:06] <zyga> hello
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[02:10] <Hobbsee> hey zyga 
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[02:17] <simira> dholbach: are you guys back from lunch? Can you prod Tollef for me?
[02:17] <dholbach> simira: can't see him
[02:18] <dholbach> simira: but I'll prod him once he's near me
[02:18] <simira> dholbach: hrmf. Probably meeting someone then.
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[02:26] <jwendell> doko, around? i'm getting error related to myspell while compiling firefox (feisty). Any idea?
[02:27] <doko> jwendell: works fine for me (and on the buildd's as well)
[02:27] <jwendell> doko, i just did an apt-get source firefox and ran debuild on it...
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[02:29] <triceratops> due to freedesktop org Bug 7097 keystrokes for Zoom X Desktop don't work. Am I right that the listed patch No2 is not included in Ubuntu Xorg? Does anyone know if there is a way to have X zoom keystrokes?
[02:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 7097 in util-linux "util-linux: [hwclock]  want option to suppress drift information in --show" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7097
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[02:32] <owh> doko: I was told on the weekend that you are the one to talk to about OO.o - I have figured out that the official downloaded version is different from the Ubuntu shipped on - in my case, specifically the Empty/Not Empty Auto Filter is missing. In the Ubuntu package I am unable to determine where you get the OO.o source from, The readme just says that it is out of date WRT v2.0.
[02:32] <jwendell> doko, mozMySpell.h:59:24: error: hunspell.hxx: File not found
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[02:35] <jwendell> doko, it seems ./configure is not translating @MOZ_MYSPELL_CFLAGS@ ...
[02:39] <jwendell> doko, any idea?
[02:40] <doko> jwendell: did you rebuild configure?
[02:40] <jwendell> doko, yes, i ran autoconf
[02:41] <doko> owh: http://go-ooo.org/packages/OOE680/
[02:41] <doko> jwendell: not my problem anymore :)
[02:41] <jwendell> wow, thanks
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[02:42] <owh> doko: Tah muchly :-)
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[02:52] <jwendell> somebody can help me on compiling firefox? i'm just trying to help ubuntu...
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[02:55] <jwendell> dholbach, which command should i run to become autoconf.mk.in in autoconf.mk ?
[02:56] <dholbach> autoconf?
[02:58] <jwendell> dholbach, it looks for a configure.in file...
[02:58] <dholbach> ah, you don't have that, hm
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[03:15] <jdong> infinity: ping?
[03:16] <infinity> jdong: pong.
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[03:16] <jdong> infinity: did you get the messages I left for you from like two days ago? :)
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[03:16] <infinity> jdong: The one about the whacky build failure?
[03:16] <jdong> infinity: yeah....
[03:17] <infinity> jdong: I got it, I looked at it for a few seconds, went "that's not an obvious failure I know" and backburnered it for a bit while I'm putting out some bigger fires.
[03:17] <infinity> jdong: Could you perhaps email me about it, so it doesn't slip off my radar?  IRC backscroll is a horrible TODO list.
[03:17] <jdong> ok, sure
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[03:37] <infinity> jdong: Thanks.
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[03:56] <bddebian> Heya
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[04:28] <Kano> hi, could someone update xine-ui to the one from sid?
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[04:30] <Kano> vdr keybindings are missing in feisty one and there are 2 menu entries for it
[04:30] <jdong> Kano: you might get a better response in #ubuntu-motu, the channel for universe development
[04:30] <Kano> ok
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[04:49] <saispo> hi
[04:49] <saispo> anyone work on debian-installer ?
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[04:52] <carlos> pitti: ping
[04:52] <pitti> hey carlos
[04:52] <carlos> pitti: hi, I'm looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-es/+bug/79589
[04:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79589 in language-pack-gnome-es "language-pack-gnome-es not fully translated" [High,In progress]  
[04:53] <carlos> pitti: how's that you uploaded a 20061201 package on 2007-01-15 ?
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[04:54] <pitti> carlos: apparently because there haven't been any updates since that date
[04:55] <pitti> carlos: I only upload a new version to the dailies if there are actually changes
[04:55] <carlos> so you mean that since 1st December, daily packages have been exporting the same ?
[04:55] <carlos> no one did a translation in Dapper?
[04:55] <pitti> carlos: not all of them, just for gnome-es
[04:56] <carlos> oh, I see
[04:56] <carlos> ok
[04:56] <carlos> I'm a bit confused
[04:56] <carlos> pitti: which tar.gz from Rosetta should I check?
[04:56] <carlos> latest
[04:56] <carlos> or the one on December?
[04:56] <pitti> carlos: check for what?
[04:56] <pitti> new translations?
[04:56] <pitti> well, we should diff both then, I guess
[04:56] <carlos> pitti: check why gnome-panel is not translated
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[04:57] <carlos> ok, so the timestamp in the version
[04:57] <carlos> is the timestamp of the export from Rosetta, right?
[04:57] <pitti> right
[04:57] <carlos> ok
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[04:59] <carlos> hmm, I don't have any tarball from December, I removed them already as part of the cleanup we agreed to do from time to time...
[04:59] <carlos> I will check latest one
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[05:09] <keescook> mornin'!
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[05:10] <zul> hey keescook 
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[05:11] <keescook> hi zul :)
[05:14] <pitti> hey keescook, had a nice time at LCA?
[05:15] <keescook> pitti: hi pitti.  yeah!  I spent the bulk of my time exploring Sydney, but I had fun meeting some (previously) online-only friends, listening to talks, hacking^Wusing the wifi, etc.
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[05:17] <pitti> keescook: I enjoyed the sun, Nice, and Monaco/Monte Carlo in the meantime :)
[05:18] <keescook> pitti: excellent!  Looks like you were quite busy on Mon/Tue with security things, too.  Thanks!
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[05:21] <Mez> thx to whoever did the sync of ra
[05:21] <Mez> r
[05:23] <Mithrandir> you're welcome
[05:24] <Mithrandir> hmm, three clicks, one selection and three key presses to go to a bug report, mark the right task as fix released, assigned to me, with the contents of the clipboard as reason.  Not all bad.
[05:26] <pitti> Mithrandir: but this will be reduced to zero with ChangelogClosesBugs soon? :-)
[05:27] <Mithrandir> pitti: no, since those are syncs.
[05:27] <Mithrandir> but having alt-shift-[qwertyuio]  for opening tasks, alt-shift-p for paste-reason-mark-as-fixed-assign-to-me and alt-shift-s to save the report is really useful.
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[05:47] <Mithrandir> doko: can you confirm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-systray/+bug/79608 ? You uploaded xchat last, so I guess you might know.
[05:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79608 in xchat-systray "xchat-systray is not necessary in feisty anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[05:48] <Mithrandir> ogra_: ping
[05:48] <Mithrandir> kthx
[05:48] <doko> Mithrandir: just the python update, but I can confirm that it's in the systray without having xchat-systray installed
[05:48] <fabbione> same here
[05:49] <Mithrandir> ogra did too, but thanks. :-)
[05:49] <jwendell> doko, can you check my patch for bug 68663?
[05:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68663 in firefox "[Edgy]  Incompatible with Google Toolbar." [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68663
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[05:52] <doko> jwendell: sorry, no.
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[05:53] <jwendell> mdz, can you?
[05:54] <nukeDev> Hi All
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[05:55] <mdz> jwendell: the patch is consistent with your analysis of the problem; I can't say whether it's correct, but it sounds reasonable
[05:56] <mdz> jwendell: the myspell change seems unrelated and potentially incorrect; doko recently changed it to use hunspell instead of myspell
[05:57] <doko> mdz: ?
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[05:58] <jwendell> mdz, i could not compile firefox without that change... i was getting errors related to myspell stuff
[05:58] <mdz> doko: firefox (2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low
[05:58] <mdz>   * Build using hunspell instead of myspell.
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[05:59] <pitti> hi glatzor 
[05:59] <doko> mdz: spellchecking works with this version
[05:59] <mdz> jwendell: it seems to build OK on the autobuilders: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu2
[05:59] <glatzor> evening pitti
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[06:17] <jwendell> mdz, doko, at least, that patch shows that the fix for that bug is easy to be made. Is there any chance it get in the next firefox release?
[06:17] <mdz> jwendell: sure, but there's no one working on a new firefox release at the moment
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[06:20] <somerville32> Bug #56161 <-- Can a core-dev please upload? :)
[06:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56161 in mousepad "Segfault when saving files on AMD64" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56161
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[06:20] <mdz> somerville32: I believe there's a team in launchpad for that purpose; this channel isn't continuously monitored for such requests
[06:21] <somerville32> mdz: I have subscribed them but I thought I might make a quick shout out in here to catch someone's attention.
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[06:27] <cjwatson> saispo: yes
[06:27] <cjwatson> saispo: ... but it's dinnertime now, so send mail or something
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[06:37] <Mithrandir> dholbach: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/wxwidgets2.6/+bug/59138 seems to be missing a +1 from another motu-sru member; could you perhaps look at it?
[06:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59138 in wxwidgets "[SRU: EDGY]  amule crashes when I close a tab" [Unknown,Unknown]  
[06:37] <dholbach> Mithrandir: i'm only the guy who set up the team - not really part of it
[06:37] <Mithrandir> ok
[06:38] <dholbach> StevenK, crimsun, siretart?
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[07:08] <nukeDev> Hello all
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[07:10] <nukeDev> Hi
[07:11] <somerville32> Hi
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[07:20] <GNUro> Hi!
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[07:36] <slomo_> are uploads not processed currently?
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=== LaserJock hugs Mithrandir 
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[09:29] <nyu> hi
[09:29] <nyu> where can i get the source of the installer?
[09:29] <nyu> (the one used in dapper)
[09:30] <tsmithe> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[09:30] <nyu> thanks tsmithe 
[09:31] <tsmithe> np
[09:35] <nyu> tsmithe: is there a public svn of that?
[09:35] <tsmithe> hmm
[09:35] <tsmithe> may be
[09:35] <tsmithe> i guess it is probs in bzr, though
[09:35] <tsmithe> dunno
[09:36] <tsmithe> ask cjwatson 
[09:36] <nyu> oh
[09:36] <nyu> cjwatson: there?
[09:36] <mpt> nyu, there's also #ubuntu-installer specifically for installer discussion
[09:38] <nyu> ah ok, thanks
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[09:45] <cjwatson> nyu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment
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[10:01] <sistpoty> lamont: can you please give back osgcal on i386? thanks ;)
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[10:02] <cjwatson> slomo_: I think I've reprocessed the lost uploads
[10:02] <lamont> sistpoty: once I figure out how, sure... will advise. :-)
[10:02] <sistpoty> lamont: ok, thanks :)
[10:03] <lamont> heh.  done sistpoty 
[10:03] <sistpoty> thanks
[10:04] <lamont> I remember being told it was now trivial... and sure 'nuf.....
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[10:05] <lamont> sistpoty: so yeah, poking me is a viable option.  likewise Mithrandir and infinity 
[10:05] <lamont> and probably at least someone else...
[10:05] <lamont> hrm... maybe not infinity now... dunno
[10:05] <sistpoty> lamont: ok, thanks very much for the help and advice :)
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[10:07] <cjwatson> yes, infinity
[10:09] <lamont> cjwatson: thanks - I
[10:09] <slomo_> cjwatson: thanks... looks good :)
[10:09] <lamont> 'd forgotten where the split landed.
[10:10] <cjwatson> anyone in launchpad.net/~launchpad-buildd-admins
[10:10] <lamont> yeah -doh
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[11:33] <keescook> slomo_: are you around?  Have you considered enabling the "make check" bits in the dbus package?  I kind of like seeing unit tests run during a build.  :)
[11:35] <pochu> hey, ubugtu is down?
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[11:59] <kent> is there documentation on ubuntu.com about formalia for contact persons for LoCos? that is,  what Ubuntu expects out of them etc,   ?
[12:01] <mdke> kent: yeah, loads on the wiki
[12:01] <kent> mdke: ok.  I will look there then.  thanks for the help.
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[12:01] <mdke> kent: start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[12:02] <mdke> kent: any questions -> #ubuntu-locoteams or the equivalent mailing list
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[12:05] <kent> mdke: ok.  we seem to have problems with the leadership/support for the current leadership  in the swedish LoCo.  I was curios of what is expected etc,  I might apply for it if I can combine it with my current work schedule.
[12:05] <kent> thanks anyway
[12:05] <pochu> kent > contact jono
[12:05] <mdke> well, try resolving it first 
[12:05] <mdke> then if you need help contact jono
[12:05] <pochu> yep
[12:06] <mdke> kent: so, specifically - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#head-dcd5ebe11aedfba20759fa5e2aa5114d3d8c6499, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoResolvingProblems
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[12:09] <kent> pochu: I think our current leader have contacted him about the problems.  Our contact has resigned. Right now, its hard to really grip what is happening. but we will solve it. We will have a meeting next sunday to elect new leadership. 
[12:10] <pochu> kent: good luck
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[12:10] <pochu> kent: if you need something, you can joing #ubuntu-locoteams, there you can get help
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