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mptmdke, the contents pane in Yelp12:52
mdkempt: can you be a bit more specific? you mean the start page?12:52
mptNo, I mean the pane that normally takes up the left third of Yelp's window12:52
mdkeand do you mean "all the time", or "for the documents that don't have subsections"12:53
mptfor the documents that don't have subsections12:53
mptwhich, in the topic-based world, is many of them12:53
mdkewell, we have two or three12:54
mdkeI don't know what the answer is. Did you file a bug about it already? we could ask them to hide it for documents which have no sections12:54
mptok, I will12:55
mdkempt: you think it should simply take up the whole window with the text?12:55
mptDefinitely12:57
mdkeok12:58
LaserJockoh, nifty a commit bot01:28
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mdkeLaserJock: bhuvan spotted it, it's taken about 6 months to get it to join :)01:29
LaserJockinteresting, there is a CIA-1 in another channel I frequent ;-)01:29
mdkeyeah, we added the hook to the svn repo ages ago but the guy who adds the bot went MIA and only just got to it now01:30
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3711 kubuntu/C/office/office.xml: missed one type :)02:35
nixternalyeah, I can spell02:35
crimsunit's impressive that "Redhat" is still used instead of "Red Hat"03:46
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crimsun(meaning that someone needs to fix that typo)03:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3712 kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu/about-kubuntu.xml: fixed Redhat typo just for crimsun03:49
crimsunexcellent. "Updated to revision 3712"03:49
tonyyarussoWhat's CIA-4 ?03:50
crimsunnixternal: next typo, same file, references "10,000" when it should be over "16,000"03:52
crimsun(I'll send a diff ;)03:52
tonyyarussoIsn't it more like 20,000 now?03:53
crimsuncloser to 17,00003:54
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3713 kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu/about-kubuntu.xml: yet another typo found by the master of everything Ubuntu, the great crimsun himself03:55
nixternal;p03:55
tonyyarussocrimsun: Correct me if this is an inaccurate way of checking, but 'apt-cache search "" | grep "" -c' gives 21080.03:56
crimsuntonyyarusso: it's inflated.03:57
tonyyarussocrimsun: From what?  (I don't really know what that does - LjL gave me the command.03:57
crimsunapt-cache stats's Normal shows all Package names, including virtuals03:58
tonyyarussooh, so things like ubuntu-desktop are in that number.03:58
crimsunyes03:58
tonyyarussoAny switch to avoid that?03:58
crimsunthough ubuntu-desktop is a meta and not a virtual03:58
tonyyarussoWhat's the difference?03:58
crimsunthe former's a package that depends on other packages for convenience; the latter's a dependency reference03:59
tonyyarussoa "dependency reference"?03:59
crimsunfor instance, both exim4 and postfix provide the mail-transport-agent04:00
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niruhello all04:41
niruI want to help in documentation who is going to give me work04:41
nixternalwhat kind of work are you looking for?04:44
niruI am intrested in both documentation work as well as translation04:45
nixternalGNOME, KDE, or Xfce side? or heck even the Edubuntu side?04:45
nirunixternal:just now I have subscribed to ubuntu-doc mailing list04:45
nirunixternal:GNOME and KDE04:45
nirunixternal:And among that I will prefer GNOME04:46
nixternalright now we are in the middle of switching over the typical docs you have seen for the past 2 years into a topic based help system instead of a handbook type layout04:46
nixternalfor the GNOME side, you would want to speak with mdke which I am sure is currently sleeping as he is in the UK04:46
nixternalare you familiar with DocBook XML? SVN?04:46
nirunixternal:I heard about DocBook and SVN we are using04:47
nirunixternal:but indepth no04:48
nirunixternal:I shall learn those04:48
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nixternalas for the translation side, I myself am not 100% familiar with it, but you would want to go https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+translations and try to work with your language04:49
niruhello bhuvan04:49
bhuvanhello niru04:49
nirunixternal:what about docs04:50
nirunixternal:are you going to give me tasks04:50
nixternalwe don't hand out tasks, you find something you are comfortable with, and create patches against the current documentation, and then one of the team members will upload if approved04:51
nirunixternal:ok04:54
bhuvanniru: if you are interested to contribute, please see if you can contribute patches for server guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerGuide04:56
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3714 generic/serverguide/C/network-auth.xml: Patch by Lionel Porcheron for openldap server.05:38
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3715 ubuntu/Makefile:05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: * Include a new target for status to display latest status report in05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  doc.ubuntu.com. This will help the new contributors to know the05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  current status of each section.05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: * Remove unused variables.05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: * Add status target in "all" section so it'll be displayed in05:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  doc.ubuntu.com website.05:47
tonyyarussommm, botspam!  hehe05:51
bhuvan:)05:51
LaserJockwell, at least it isn't so quiet in here :-)05:53
LaserJockshows somebody is working ;-)05:53
somerville32Weeee :)06:06
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=== mdke mornings
=== mdke *monday* mornings
mdkeugh09:04
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LaserJockhi mdke09:24
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LaserJockit's too late here09:24
Burgundaviait is morning there, as sure as it is morning here, LaserJock09:27
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mdkebhuvan: good job!09:43
bhuvanmdke: openldap thing or status?09:43
Burgundaviaopenldap?09:44
mdkebhuvan: the latter.09:45
mdkebtw, did you guys know that bdmurray (of docteam fame) has sneakily gone and got a job at Canonical?09:45
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Burgundaviacool09:45
Burgundaviawhat is he doing?09:45
mdkeQA09:45
Burgundavianice09:46
Burgundaviawhere is he based?09:46
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mdkegermany?09:46
mdkeogra said he met him at the airport09:46
Burgundaviawe need more QA people, so that rocks09:46
Burgundaviaogra is at canonical distro sprint09:46
Burgundaviaso bdmurray could be from anywhere09:46
mdkeI thought it was at the starting airport rather than finishing airport, but still09:47
Burgundaviaah, ok09:47
mdkehmm, perhaps not :)09:48
mdkegoogle suggests Oregon09:48
Burgundaviawhat are you basing that off of?09:49
mdkehttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/249209:49
Burgundaviahmm, that makes two ODSL employees we have stolen09:50
Burgundaviaas Kees Cook came from their as well09:50
Burgundavias/their/there09:50
mdkenice09:51
mdkegotta go to work :/09:51
mdkecya09:51
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mptmdke, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39931810:42
UbugtuGnome bug 399318 in docbook "Articles with no <section>s should not have contents pane or previous/next links" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 10:42
bdmurrayYes, I am from Oregon.10:59
bdmurrayand thanks mdke11:00
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mptdarn, no time for help writing today11:42
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willvdlnixternal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Release says 6.10 yet to be released04:27
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nixternalwillvdl: thanks, I deleted that page. I started working from that page before we decided to switch to /release/Kubuntu04:46
willvdlsweet04:49
willvdlnixternal, release/Kubuntu on wiki or www?04:49
nixternalwiki05:08
willvdlyou planning a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases/Kubuntu?05:11
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jendamdke: Looks like I have a replacement, so I soon won't need doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing07:35
jendamdke: I'd like it to stay static for as long as posible, though, because we have plenty of links going that way.07:35
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mdkejenda: sure07:52
mdkempt: confirmed07:53
mptta07:54
jendamdke: thx07:56
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popeymdke: do you know of any list of big things to come in feisty?09:02
popeys/things/changes09:02
popeyso far I have the gnome control centre, and switchable desktop bling09:03
popeyanything else?09:03
mdkepopey: not really, scott's blog has a few relevant posts; otherwise, the specs?09:03
popeyahh09:03
popeytrue09:03
popeythe gstreamer auto-codec download thing wont make it to feisty will it?09:04
mdkeI'm not sure09:04
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popeymdke: any news on s.u.c?09:50
popeyand/or is there anything we can do?09:50
mdkeno :(09:50
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LaserJockmdke: can wiki pages on wiki.u.c be made immutable? and if so is it easy?10:22
mdkeLaserJock: yes, and yes :)10:22
mdkeor rather10:22
mdkeyes, and no10:22
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mdkeLaserJock: you'd have to request that access control be activated in the wiki's configuration, and that a group of administrators be set up who can make pages immutable and edit them10:23
LaserJockhmm, too much work10:23
LaserJockI just wondered if it was trivial10:24
mdkefraid not10:24
mdkeit's easy enough on help.u.c/community10:24
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LaserJockwe are starting to get some policy type pages in MOTU and I thought if it was trivial I might make them immutable10:27
LaserJockinstead I think I'll just have a nice warning at the top and leave it at that10:28
LaserJockmdke: is creating a category on a wiki as simple as just using [Category<Category>]  in your doc?10:31
mdkeLaserJock: you simple create a page called CategoryLaserjock (I presume there is a template)10:32
LaserJockexcellent10:33
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