=== david_corrales_ [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke pokes mpt === david_corrales_ [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:52] mdke, the contents pane in Yelp [12:52] mpt: can you be a bit more specific? you mean the start page? [12:52] No, I mean the pane that normally takes up the left third of Yelp's window [12:53] and do you mean "all the time", or "for the documents that don't have subsections" [12:53] for the documents that don't have subsections [12:53] which, in the topic-based world, is many of them [12:54] well, we have two or three [12:54] I don't know what the answer is. Did you file a bug about it already? we could ask them to hide it for documents which have no sections [12:55] ok, I will [12:55] mpt: you think it should simply take up the whole window with the text? [12:57] Definitely [12:58] ok [01:28] oh, nifty a commit bot === mdke nods [01:29] LaserJock: bhuvan spotted it, it's taken about 6 months to get it to join :) [01:29] interesting, there is a CIA-1 in another channel I frequent ;-) [01:30] yeah, we added the hook to the svn repo ages ago but the guy who adds the bot went MIA and only just got to it now [02:35] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3711 kubuntu/C/office/office.xml: missed one type :) [02:35] yeah, I can spell [03:46] it's impressive that "Redhat" is still used instead of "Red Hat" === crimsun continues through kubuntu/C/ [03:47] (meaning that someone needs to fix that typo) [03:49] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3712 kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu/about-kubuntu.xml: fixed Redhat typo just for crimsun [03:49] excellent. "Updated to revision 3712" [03:50] What's CIA-4 ? [03:52] nixternal: next typo, same file, references "10,000" when it should be over "16,000" [03:52] (I'll send a diff ;) [03:53] Isn't it more like 20,000 now? [03:54] closer to 17,000 [03:55] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3713 kubuntu/C/about-kubuntu/about-kubuntu.xml: yet another typo found by the master of everything Ubuntu, the great crimsun himself [03:55] ;p [03:56] crimsun: Correct me if this is an inaccurate way of checking, but 'apt-cache search "" | grep "" -c' gives 21080. [03:57] tonyyarusso: it's inflated. [03:57] crimsun: From what? (I don't really know what that does - LjL gave me the command. [03:58] apt-cache stats's Normal shows all Package names, including virtuals [03:58] oh, so things like ubuntu-desktop are in that number. [03:58] yes [03:58] Any switch to avoid that? [03:58] though ubuntu-desktop is a meta and not a virtual [03:58] What's the difference? [03:59] the former's a package that depends on other packages for convenience; the latter's a dependency reference [03:59] a "dependency reference"? [04:00] for instance, both exim4 and postfix provide the mail-transport-agent === niru [n=niru@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:41] hello all [04:41] I want to help in documentation who is going to give me work [04:44] what kind of work are you looking for? [04:45] I am intrested in both documentation work as well as translation [04:45] GNOME, KDE, or Xfce side? or heck even the Edubuntu side? [04:45] nixternal:just now I have subscribed to ubuntu-doc mailing list [04:45] nixternal:GNOME and KDE [04:46] nixternal:And among that I will prefer GNOME [04:46] right now we are in the middle of switching over the typical docs you have seen for the past 2 years into a topic based help system instead of a handbook type layout [04:46] for the GNOME side, you would want to speak with mdke which I am sure is currently sleeping as he is in the UK [04:46] are you familiar with DocBook XML? SVN? [04:47] nixternal:I heard about DocBook and SVN we are using [04:48] nixternal:but indepth no [04:48] nixternal:I shall learn those === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:49] as for the translation side, I myself am not 100% familiar with it, but you would want to go https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+translations and try to work with your language [04:49] hello bhuvan [04:49] hello niru [04:50] nixternal:what about docs [04:50] nixternal:are you going to give me tasks [04:51] we don't hand out tasks, you find something you are comfortable with, and create patches against the current documentation, and then one of the team members will upload if approved [04:54] nixternal:ok [04:56] niru: if you are interested to contribute, please see if you can contribute patches for server guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerGuide === bdmurray [n=theman@c-24-21-235-175.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:38] Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3714 generic/serverguide/C/network-auth.xml: Patch by Lionel Porcheron for openldap server. [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3715 ubuntu/Makefile: [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: * Include a new target for status to display latest status report in [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: doc.ubuntu.com. This will help the new contributors to know the [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: current status of each section. [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: * Remove unused variables. [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: * Add status target in "all" section so it'll be displayed in [05:47] Ubuntu Documentation: doc.ubuntu.com website. [05:51] mmm, botspam! hehe [05:51] :) [05:53] well, at least it isn't so quiet in here :-) [05:53] shows somebody is working ;-) [06:06] Weeee :) === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke mornings === mdke *monday* mornings [09:04] ugh === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:24] hi mdke === LaserJock almost said "hi mornings" [09:24] it's too late here [09:27] it is morning there, as sure as it is morning here, LaserJock === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:43] bhuvan: good job! [09:43] mdke: openldap thing or status? [09:44] openldap? [09:45] bhuvan: the latter. [09:45] btw, did you guys know that bdmurray (of docteam fame) has sneakily gone and got a job at Canonical? === mdke congratulates bdmurray [09:45] cool [09:45] what is he doing? [09:45] QA [09:46] nice [09:46] where is he based? === mdke not sures [09:46] germany? [09:46] ogra said he met him at the airport [09:46] we need more QA people, so that rocks [09:46] ogra is at canonical distro sprint [09:46] so bdmurray could be from anywhere [09:47] I thought it was at the starting airport rather than finishing airport, but still [09:47] ah, ok [09:48] hmm, perhaps not :) [09:48] google suggests Oregon [09:49] what are you basing that off of? [09:49] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2492 [09:50] hmm, that makes two ODSL employees we have stolen [09:50] as Kees Cook came from their as well [09:50] s/their/there [09:51] nice [09:51] gotta go to work :/ [09:51] cya === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:42] mdke, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399318 [10:42] Gnome bug 399318 in docbook "Articles with no
s should not have contents pane or previous/next links" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [10:59] Yes, I am from Oregon. [11:00] and thanks mdke === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-179.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === medders [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:42] darn, no time for help writing today === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.21] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fijam7 [i=anon@gateway/tor/x-d4d58aa2d04c8175] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ_ [n=joerlend@237-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc [04:27] nixternal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Release says 6.10 yet to be released === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:46] willvdl: thanks, I deleted that page. I started working from that page before we decided to switch to /release/Kubuntu [04:49] sweet [04:49] nixternal, release/Kubuntu on wiki or www? [05:08] wiki [05:11] you planning a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases/Kubuntu? === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Orby [n=Orby@bb-87-81-116-75.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-11-87.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@p549670F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has left #ubuntu-doc ["See] === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034071024.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@ner-as36529.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:35] mdke: Looks like I have a replacement, so I soon won't need doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing [07:35] mdke: I'd like it to stay static for as long as posible, though, because we have plenty of links going that way. === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-32-75.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-58-70.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:52] jenda: sure [07:53] mpt: confirmed [07:54] ta [07:56] mdke: thx === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-58-70.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-29-101.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:02] mdke: do you know of any list of big things to come in feisty? [09:02] s/things/changes [09:03] so far I have the gnome control centre, and switchable desktop bling [09:03] anything else? [09:03] popey: not really, scott's blog has a few relevant posts; otherwise, the specs? [09:03] ahh [09:03] true [09:04] the gstreamer auto-codec download thing wont make it to feisty will it? [09:04] I'm not sure === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@cpe.atm2-0-54382.0x50a1da32.kjnxx4.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:50] mdke: any news on s.u.c? [09:50] and/or is there anything we can do? [09:50] no :( === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:22] mdke: can wiki pages on wiki.u.c be made immutable? and if so is it easy? [10:22] LaserJock: yes, and yes :) [10:22] or rather [10:22] yes, and no === mdke slaps himself === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] [10:23] LaserJock: you'd have to request that access control be activated in the wiki's configuration, and that a group of administrators be set up who can make pages immutable and edit them [10:23] hmm, too much work [10:24] I just wondered if it was trivial [10:24] fraid not [10:24] it's easy enough on help.u.c/community === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC9FFC5A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-198-222.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:27] we are starting to get some policy type pages in MOTU and I thought if it was trivial I might make them immutable [10:28] instead I think I'll just have a nice warning at the top and leave it at that [10:31] mdke: is creating a category on a wiki as simple as just using [Category] in your doc? [10:32] LaserJock: you simple create a page called CategoryLaserjock (I presume there is a template) [10:33] excellent === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === medders [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.168] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Orby [n=Orby@bb-87-81-116-75.ukonline.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation]