[03:35] <moniker42> hey, i was wondering...
[03:35] <moniker42> would i get paid to have an ubuntu logo tattooed on me somewhere?
[03:35] <tsmithe> you might have to pay
[03:35] <moniker42> i'd have to pay to get a tattoo on my own body?
[03:36] <moniker42> well maybe ubuntu could at least cover the cost of the tattoo
[03:36] <moniker42> would i get free stickers?
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> It would be trademark use, so you'd have to ask :)
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> Everyone gets free stickers, so yes.
[03:37] <moniker42> yeeey
[03:37] <moniker42> ok where do i get free stickers?
[03:37] <tsmithe> !shipit
[03:37] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[03:37] <moniker42> !LTS
[03:37] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:37] <tsmithe> or pay jenda or menza or juliux
[03:38] <moniker42> but i take it the logos etc will be creative commons/GNU
[03:38] <moniker42> so i could make my own stickers?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> moniker42: Yeah - I think they're on the wiki somewhere.
[03:40] <tsmithe> jenda, here, now!
[03:40] <tsmithe> he's probably asleep or studying
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> @now prague
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> nvm
[03:55] <moniker42> jenda.... studying?!! hahaha....
[08:46] <Burgundavia> hmm, Linux Foundation eh?
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: come again?
[08:47] <Burgundavia> http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Main_Page
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Yet another thing I can't afford to donate to
[08:56] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: meh
[08:56] <Burgundavia> hopefully it will make our life easier
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[01:13] <jenda> atoponce: mind if I semi-steal your email sig?
[02:57] <juliux> hi all
[03:06] <mindspin> juliux: msg?
[03:06] <juliux> mindspin, ?
[03:13] <jenda> hey juliux
[03:13] <juliux> hi jenda 
[03:13] <jenda> just made the order.
[03:13] <juliux> cool
[03:13] <juliux> shoud i pay via paypal?
[03:15] <jenda> pay at your leisure, and yes, through paypal.
[03:15] <juliux> good
[03:42] <atoponce> jenda: not a prob
[03:42] <jenda> 
[04:07] <jenda> :)
[04:08] <GazzaK> sorry boss
[04:09] <jenda> No pardon.
[04:09] <GazzaK> such a long channel name :p
[04:09] <jenda> hehe
[04:09] <jenda> tab completion is your redeemer.
[04:11] <GazzaK> I built a laptop which had windows xp on it, with many problems & bugs, to Ubuntu 6.10 last week \o/
[04:11] <GazzaK> thats not really marketing though
[04:14] <willvdl> it is if you print it on a leaflet :)
[04:15] <jenda> that's the spirit.
[04:22] <GazzaK> I did print a nice flyer for it, with the loco teams logo and basic build info :-)
[05:12] <jenda> Quiz winners this time ;)
[05:12] <GazzaK> ponies, where?
[05:25] <jenda> juliux: ping
[05:25] <juliux> jenda, pong
[05:25] <jenda> juliux: How many of those shirts do you sell?
[05:25] <jenda> And do you intend other sellables? (or do you have other sellables?)
[05:26] <jenda> I have a resource you might find useful.
[05:26] <jenda> -> an OO.org calc sheet for recording orders and payments.
[05:26] <jenda> It calculates most of the finances.
[05:27] <juliux> jenda, we had 100polos and 50t-shirts,27polos and 8t-shirts left
[05:27] <juliux> jenda, i developed my own datashet for all the finances
[05:27] <jenda> nice, btw ;)
[05:27] <jenda> oh, cool.
[05:28] <juliux> but you can also send me yours;)
[05:28] <jenda> if you like :)
[05:28] <juliux> i think in the future i will use gnucash for that
[05:28] <jenda> it'll eventually be on the site.
[05:28] <jenda> oooh
[05:28] <jenda> that's one thing worth learning ;)
[05:28] <juliux> gnucash rocks
[05:29] <juliux> i have an lecture in university this term about bookkeeping
[05:29] <juliux> so gnucash is easy stuff for me
[05:29] <juliux> in university we have to do all the bookkeeping stuff on paper
[06:10] <jenda> meatballhat: hello
[06:10] <jenda> I'm just about to publish the official SwagSheet
[06:10] <jenda> :)
[06:11] <jenda> ~for those who don't feel up to gnucash just yet
[06:11] <meatballhat> jenda: oi!
[06:11] <jenda> diy.devubuntu.com/dump/SwagSheet.ods
[06:11] <jenda> for swag distributors (sellers)
[06:11] <meatballhat> hehe ..... "dump"
[06:11] <jenda> yeah :)
[06:12] <jenda> I figured I shouldn't clutter the main dir anymore.
[06:12] <meatballhat> excellent
[06:12] <jenda> Reminds me...
[06:12] <jenda> MitchM: ping
[06:12] <jenda> MitchM: pretty, pretty, pretty ping
[06:12] <jenda> meatballhat: we'll have to withdraw from doc.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <MitchM> haha hey jenda ?
[06:12] <jenda> MitchM: oooh :)
[06:12] <MitchM> jenda, whats up?
[06:13] <jenda> MitchM: I'm looking to our generous host for some more hosting...
[06:13] <meatballhat> withdraw, as in we're getting the boot?
[06:13] <jenda> meatballhat: another way to put it ;)
[06:13] <meatballhat> :D
[06:13] <jenda> meatballhat: not really, though.
[06:13] <MitchM> jenda, no problem; whatever you need.
[06:13] <jenda> The server software is too old for me ;)
[06:13] <jenda> MitchM: unless your server runs Breezy.
[06:13] <jenda> :)
[06:13] <meatballhat> gotcha ... 
[06:13] <MitchM> (im starting to think that my server may [in the near future, require a new MoBo]  ... *sad face*)
[06:13] <jenda> meatballhat: but they're also going to be cancelling it.
[06:13] <MitchM> nay.
[06:13] <MitchM> it runs the 6.10 Kernel
[06:14] <jenda> aww
[06:14] <jenda> MitchM: I can help finance that.
[06:14] <MitchM> haha no problem. I will finance it.
[06:14] <MitchM> I just hope it doesn't go down again.
[06:14] <jenda> ok :)
[06:14] <MitchM> went down twice in the last 6 months.
[06:14] <MitchM> it makes me sad.
[06:14] <MitchM> :) how can I help?
[06:14] <jenda> MitchM: so, the issue: I can't use bzr on doc.ubuntu.com anymore.
[06:14] <somerville32> For the diy website
[06:15] <somerville32> You might set some system requirements for using it :P
[06:15] <MitchM> ah.
[06:15] <somerville32> It is way too slow on my computer :P
[06:15] <jenda> somerville32: I need to talk to you too ;)
[06:15] <jenda> somerville32: hehe
[06:15] <somerville32> jenda: k :)
[06:15] <MitchM> diy.devubuntu.com is slow?
[06:15] <MitchM> ?
[06:15] <meatballhat> somerville32: I'll probably just have to make an alt stylesheet that isn't *so* CSS2 :D
[06:15] <somerville32> I really liked it when it was in the table myself
[06:16] <MitchM> jenda, I think I have BZR loaded on the box; go ahead and SSH in and see what you can do.
[06:16] <meatballhat> as in:  .... linky on top of page [fast CSS]   [rich CSS (default)] 
[06:16] <meatballhat> somerville32: do you mean as a quad layout instead of the vertical cols?
[06:16] <jenda> MitchM: so - that branch requires: about 200 MiB of space, a daily cronjob, and bzr
[06:16] <jenda> MitchM: all good?
[06:17] <jenda> the cronjob runs an update - does'nt re-download the 200 MiB
[06:17] <somerville32> meatballhat, Sure, lol
[06:17] <meatballhat> :D
[06:17] <MitchM> jenda, Your eating away my disk-space.
[06:17] <jenda> hehe
[06:17] <MitchM> jenda, shame on you.
[06:17] <MitchM> jenda, yeah that should be fine :)
[06:17] <jenda> Can I? Can I not?
[06:17] <jenda> ooooh :)
[06:17] <jenda> thank you :)
[06:17] <MitchM> oh -- have fun.
[06:17] <MitchM> yup; if you need temporary sudo access to setup what you need; let me know.
[06:17] <jenda> meatballhat: shall I do it on diy.devubuntu.com/repo?
[06:18] <meatballhat> jenda: that gets my vote
[06:18] <MitchM> *cries*
[06:18] <MitchM> Looks like im down to around 500gig.
[06:18] <jenda> MitchM: I don't... but I'll ask you to set a cronjobbed script.
[06:19] <MitchM> *nods*
[06:19] <jenda> I guess I'll put it in /repo/.cronjob
[06:19] <MitchM> You need the cronjob to run as root?
[06:19] <jenda> no
[06:19] <MitchM> good man.
[06:20] <jenda> "bzr update"
[06:20] <jenda> all there is.
[06:20] <jenda> :)
[06:20] <MitchM> just use your own cronjob profile then?
[06:20] <jenda> I don't know how :)
[06:20] <MitchM> "crontab -e"
[06:20] <jenda> it's what mdke has set up for me, and I've been using since :)
[06:20] <MitchM> copy your cronjob into the "crontab -e" file.
[06:21] <jenda> but yes, I'll try later on.
[06:21] <jenda> I'll scream for help :)
[06:21] <MitchM> *nods* -- let me know if you need anything
[06:21] <MitchM> :)
[06:21] <jenda> And thanks :)
[06:27] <MitchM> yup :)
[09:24] <tk2> flash?  It doesn't work
[09:24] <jenda> somerville32: ping
[09:24] <jenda> somerville32: one question
[09:24] <somerville32> jenda: pong
[09:24] <jenda> Do I owe you anythnig? :)
[09:24] <jenda> honestly ;)
[09:24] <somerville32> lol
[09:24] <somerville32> Do you mean stickers?
[09:24] <jenda> yes
[09:25] <jenda> did I send those yet or not?
[09:25] <MitchM> s/they/that/
[09:27] <jenda> haha
[09:27] <jenda> MitchM: you know I offered you money earlier today ;)
[09:27] <MitchM> lies.
[09:27] <jenda> somerville32: hey ho, stickers go?
[09:28] <MitchM> Was that attempt at a short rap?
[09:28] <MitchM> an attempt*
[09:28] <tsmithe> no money for poor ickle tsmithe?
[09:28] <MitchM> lol.
[09:28] <MitchM> Hey -- he's no Eminem.
[09:29] <somerville32> jenda: You don't owe me stickers. You offered to send me some for free but I never got them.
[09:29] <jenda> somerville32: ok, that would explain why I found your address among the outgoing prints ;)
[09:30] <jenda> somerville32: I needed to check, because I wouldda sworn I already did.
[09:30] <jenda> see my grand memory at work.
[09:30] <somerville32> :)
[09:30] <jenda> I'll send you a bit of the new batch, as soon as it's in.
[09:31] <somerville32> Thanks :)
[09:36] <jenda> np
[09:54] <beuno> ping meatballhat
[09:55] <jenda> hey beuno
[09:55] <jenda> if he pongs, meeting starts ;)
[09:55] <jenda> hehe
[09:55] <jenda> it's so easy with 3 people on a project.
[09:55] <beuno> hey jenda!
[09:55] <beuno> heheh
[09:55] <jenda> I have little to say for the meeting though :)
[09:55] <beuno> yeah, timezones and work/school helps too
[09:55] <jenda> I'm very tired after an exam.
[09:56] <beuno> I'm kinda on hold too
[09:56] <beuno> that's why I wanted to see where we're at
[09:58] <jenda> The next exam is very tough, I'm afraid I'll be useless this week.
[09:59] <beuno> that can be an interesting mix..
[09:59] <somerville32> beuno: pong
[09:59] <beuno> lol
[09:59] <somerville32> Ok, I'm ready for the meeting.
[10:00] <somerville32> Lets get started
[10:00] <beuno> how's the CSS coming along?
[10:00] <somerville32> oi!
[10:00] <somerville32> I'm currently working on a lighter version of the CSS
[10:00] <beuno> that's spooky
[10:01] <somerville32> :D
[10:01] <meatballhat> meatballhat here :)
[10:01] <beuno> I think that means you hang around here too much
[10:01] <somerville32> **CARRIER TERMINATED**
[10:02] <beuno> IRC brings out the funniest in ppl
[10:02] <meatballhat> what're we all talking about :D
[10:02] <meatballhat> ?
[10:02] <beuno> jenda, ping pang pung
[10:02] <jenda> ah
[10:02] <jenda> sorry :)
[10:02] <somerville32> Hrmph :/
[10:03] <meatballhat> somerville32: you no likey my bloated, png-ridden CSS?  :D
[10:04] <somerville32> It must requires a Pentium 4 *atleast* :P
[10:05] <meatballhat> how do we feel about alternate stylesheets?
[10:05] <somerville32> I really like the quad layout
[10:05] <somerville32> Who was the guy that copied it to their own website and made some changes at the very beginning?
[10:05] <somerville32> I really liked that version
[10:05] <somerville32> Fast
[10:05] <somerville32> Nice looking
[10:05] <meatballhat> that's cool by me ... I switched to the "4 pillars" to better accommodate folks with XGA monitors
[10:05] <somerville32> It was hawt
[10:06] <meatballhat> ;-D  nice
[10:06] <beuno> so... where is the ball?
[10:06] <jenda> yeah, who was the originator of that idea? :)
[10:06] <jenda> beuno: on the hat, right under the meat
[10:07] <beuno> hahaa
[10:07] <meatballhat> one of jenda's latest requests was for me to change the front page back to look like the mini nav buttons :D
[10:07] <meatballhat> like when viewing != front page
[10:07] <beuno> I like the idea that the ball is always on the other side  ;)
[10:08] <meatballhat> no no ... it had better be ... ;-)
[10:09] <meatballhat> what are we talking about 'round here?
[10:09] <jenda> I don't know :)
[10:09] <jenda> I'm not talking.
[10:09] <beuno> what's the status on the diy?
[10:09] <meatballhat> 2/3 argh, 1/3 schweet
[10:10] <meatballhat> I think we need a wee bit more data coming into some of the entries in "spread.php," "get.php," etc ...
[10:10] <beuno> meatballhat, is it safe to start cooking up a backend?
[10:10] <meatballhat> I altered the layout a bit and added imaginary database calls :P
[10:11] <meatballhat> beuno: have you done that diff on the files I recommended yet ? :D
[10:11] <beuno> I saw
[10:11] <beuno> uhm
[10:11] <beuno> no
[10:11] <beuno> I'm a bit afraid to do it  ;)
[10:11] <jenda> I guess the data is my job.
[10:12] <beuno> jenda wins
[10:12] <jenda> ...and yet so that I don't spend too much time on it.
[10:12] <meatballhat> I guess it really doesn't matter all that much ... the only other thing I noticed was that the whole "goto.php" thing makes it so that links do not display as "direct" links but rather as just calls to the database
[10:13] <meatballhat> beuno: can we change this?
[10:13] <jenda> goto.php?
[10:13] <meatballhat> somerville32: were y'all serious about cooking up a lighter CSS file?  Should I hold off till you are done
[10:13] <beuno> meatballhat, if I change it, I can't count how many clicks there were
[10:13] <meatballhat> jenda: goto.php is hidden ... it's all database talky code
[10:13] <jenda> meatballhat: ooh, good news
[10:14] <jenda> meatballhat: that means it's somethnig I don't have to try to pretend I understand.
[10:14] <meatballhat> beuno: okie doke
[10:14] <somerville32> meatballhat, No. I was impersonating you :P
[10:14] <beuno> meatballhat, since you changed the files, would you liek to merge them?
[10:14] <meatballhat> somerville32: ;-) understood ... thanks for doing me justice B-)
[10:14] <beuno> I'll backup and re-download
[10:15] <meatballhat> beuno: let's discuss what fields need to be added real quick ...
[10:15] <meatballhat> if you agree that it's do-able then ...
[10:15] <meatballhat> I think you should be the one to alter your files to fit better with the db tables
[10:16] <beuno> ok ok
[10:16] <beuno> will do then
[10:16] <beuno> I'll download, merge, re-upload
[10:16] <jenda> ah, /me was gonna do that bzr thing
[10:17] <jenda> beuno: we discussed the layouts of the sections with meatballhat before.
[10:18] <meatballhat> okay, about the layout and additional info to be included ...
[10:18] <beuno> meatballhat, maybe you can finish those layout changes
[10:18] <beuno> add them to the CSS
[10:18] <meatballhat> I'd just like for there to be a field that displays the downloadables' file size ..
[10:18] <meatballhat> hm
[10:18] <beuno> and then I'll include to the DB whatever is needed
[10:19] <meatballhat> wait a sec .... which layout changes are you waiting on?
[10:19] <beuno> dunno, jenda said something, and I followed his lead
[10:19] <meatballhat> I've already made some changes....  but ...   I'd likey some feedback on it :D
[10:20] <meatballhat> "print" and "go" sections, in particulart
[10:20] <jenda> beuno: blame it on me, yeah... ;)
[10:20] <meatballhat> *r
[10:20] <beuno> heh
[10:20] <jenda> oh yes, file sizes... yes please :)
[10:20] <beuno> ok
[10:20] <jenda> I hat when that's missig.
[10:21] <meatballhat> so file size is one ....
[10:23] <meatballhat> sorry ... work stuff ....
[10:23] <meatballhat> back now
[10:23] <beuno> np
[10:23] <meatballhat> file size, additional URL's
[10:23] <beuno> meatballhat, so, should I go ahead and do stuff, or wait for you
[10:24] <meatballhat> beuno: just a sec :) ... I'd like to decide on what add'l fields we need first
[10:24] <tsmithe> jenda, i've decided 1280x800 is too small for openbox to look gorgeous
[10:24] <meatballhat> what 'bout commentary?
[10:24] <meatballhat> to be entered via the backend?
[10:24] <beuno> where are you?
[10:24] <tsmithe> jenda, so i may just have to go back to xfce. hear that, somerville32 :P
[10:25] <meatballhat> beuno: everywhere :D
[10:25] <jenda> tsmithe: do you want a Xubuntu case badge? ;)
[10:25] <jenda> *runs
[10:25] <beuno> lol
[10:25] <beuno> jenda, xubuntu stickers?
[10:25] <jenda> yeppers
[10:25] <meatballhat> the only pages with dynamic content are "print" "get" and "go" yes?
[10:25] <jenda> 750 of them.
[10:25] <tsmithe> jenda, if it's free... but i'd prefer a vanilla one :P
[10:25] <tsmithe> with flavour if possible
[10:25] <tsmithe> (mmm vanilla)
[10:26] <jenda> hehe
[10:26] <beuno> meatballhat, "commentary" would be user comments?
[10:26] <meatballhat> jenda proposed commentary for the "get" page so that users could critique quality of others' offerings
[10:26] <meatballhat> to be submitted by users via the wiki, then filtered and posted by admins via the backend
[10:27] <jenda> that's not what I suggested :)
[10:27] <meatballhat> jenda: there you are!  pipe up! :D
[10:27] <meatballhat> what did you suggest? :D
[10:27] <beuno> ok, add it to the design then, I'll add whatever is *possible* on the layout tothe DB
[10:28] <jenda> beuno, meatballhat: I suggested receiving emails - first parsing the addy (only from @ubuntu.com), then subject - we would ask people to put in a reference code of the swag: "Posters-1" and put the body of the mail as comments.
[10:28] <jenda> with us reversing nonsense ones
[10:28] <beuno> ah, parsing emails...    uhm....   that never works out
[10:29] <jenda> There won't be too many, because it's limited on both sides: number of swag shipped, and number of members.
[10:29] <jenda> beuno: you sure?
[10:29] <jenda> with a single domain of addys to parse...
[10:30] <beuno> jenda, now the domain or user, the actual "content"
[10:30] <beuno> but I guess once we got all this working we can give it a crack
[10:30] <meatballhat> jenda, beuno: it'd be easier via form, yes?  
[10:30] <beuno> much much easier
[10:30] <meatballhat> we can still boot out non @ubuntu addys ...
[10:31] <meatballhat> but there's easier validation when we're controlling the input from the first, yes?
[10:31] <jenda> hmm
[10:31] <jenda> ok
[10:31] <beuno> meatballhat, correct
[10:31] <jenda> I'm opposed to forms - I'd rather do it manually.
[10:31] <meatballhat> jenda: the future will come eventually ;-)
[10:31] <jenda> I don't want randommers commenting on swag.
[10:32] <meatballhat> jenda: easier for you ...  considerably dirtier for the progger amongst us :D
[10:32] <jenda> I want to personally check if the person has bought them stuff.
[10:32] <meatballhat> jenda: if we're still booting comments from non-ubuntu members...?
[10:32] <meatballhat> jenda: we can have the form submit to a queue
[10:33] <meatballhat> and review before "promoting" them to viewable
[10:33] <meatballhat> beuno: am I on the right track?
[10:33] <beuno> absolutely
[10:33] <jenda> meatballhat: I'd still prefer to do it manually.
[10:34] <meatballhat> jenda: you can ... and then copy and paste it into the form :-P    .... :D
[10:34] <jenda> meatballhat: I wouldn't mind a non-ubuntu member that way...
[10:34] <jenda> haha
[10:34] <jenda> the form would make people ask Why can't I comment?
[10:34] <meatballhat> I think that we're still talking about the same thing, really ...  if we put the form in an obscure location and don't link to it directly from the site...
[10:35] <meatballhat> it's the form-based equivalent of a privately-written email
[10:35] <beuno> we put the site up
[10:35] <beuno> see it behave, and start building on top
[10:35] <meatballhat> it's not like we're putting a "comment" button on each entry :D
[10:35] <meatballhat> beuno: agreed :D
[10:35] <meatballhat> okay ... so comments to be reserved for next round? :D
[10:36] <meatballhat> any additional comments on the commenting commentary?
[10:36] <beuno> +1
[10:36] <meatballhat> jenda?  ;-D
[10:38] <meatballhat> uh oh ...  jenda???
[10:38] <jenda> sorry :)
[10:38] <jenda> too much happening.
[10:38] <jenda> ok, sure
[10:38] <jenda> but why not give them an email adress instead? ;)
[10:38] <jenda> is the form so much cleaner, DB-wise? :)
[10:38] <meatballhat> goooood ... okay, so file size, alt URLs, ordering info for "get" ...
[10:38] <meatballhat> jenda: yes, very much 
[10:39] <meatballhat> cleaner, that is :D
[10:39] <beuno> jenda, parsing emails is terribly hard, you never know how they're going to be formated
[10:39] <jenda> beuno: not when I do it manually :)
[10:39] <jenda> beuno: simple - reject them if they're wrong.
[10:39] <beuno> oh, in that case knock yourself out
[10:39] <meatballhat> :D
[10:39] <meatballhat> settle down, gents :D
[10:39] <meatballhat> moving on?  
[10:39] <jenda> beuno: comments  second phase +1
[10:39] <meatballhat> jenda: yay!!!
[10:40] <meatballhat> ...   file size, alt URLs, ordering info for "get"
[10:40] <meatballhat> what else we missing?
[10:41] <jenda> author and licence, of course.
[10:41] <meatballhat> I seem to remember we're lacking in url description tables for some
[10:41] <meatballhat> yes
[10:42] <meatballhat> jenda: would you be able to give us a run-down of essential data to include for each entry on "print" "get" and "go" ? .. perhaps on the wiki?
[10:42] <jenda> ok
[10:42] <meatballhat> you're the lawyer amongst us, btw :-)
[10:42] <jenda> hehe :)
[10:43] <jenda> I'm also the youngest :) /me feels so low
[10:43] <jenda> :)
[10:43] <meatballhat> okay, so beuno and I have successfully managed to offload our work to jenda yet again :D
[10:43] <meatballhat> :P
[10:43] <beuno> our work is done again
[10:43] <beuno> and ppl think web dev is hard...
[10:44] <tsmithe> jenda, youngest what?
[10:44] <jenda> tsmithe: on the diy team ;)
[10:44] <meatballhat> czech in the room?
[10:44] <tsmithe> ah
[10:44] <jenda> meatballhat: prolly ;)
[10:44] <jenda> lol, beuno, meatballhat :)
[10:44] <meatballhat> oi ... i'd better get back to work ...  anything else? :D
[10:45] <jenda> It's what I've been trying to do ever since you two got aboard...
[10:45] <jenda> ...and now you bested me at it?
[10:45] <jenda> Damn.
[10:45] <meatballhat> HA! :D
[10:45] <meatballhat> like mentor, like student .... 
[10:45] <jenda> :)
[10:46] <jenda> Imagine you employ a bunch of workers...
[10:46] <jenda> The workers come, and give you all the work...
[10:46] <jenda> And you pay them.
[10:46] <jenda> and that's the part where this doesn't work :)
[10:46] <jenda> So I better shut up and go get doing my work, now that you told me what it is ;)
[10:46] <meatballhat> heehee ... it's just a *wee* little bit of writing :D ... 
[10:47] <somerville32> Wee @ Xubuntu :)
[10:48] <jenda> meatballhat, beuno - you're a good team ;)
[10:48] <beuno> ;)  thanks, jenda
[11:19] <jenda> MitchM!!!
[11:20] <somerville32> Wazzup
[11:20] <somerville32> +?
[11:20] <jenda> bzr --version
[11:20] <jenda> bzr (bazaar-ng) 0.8.2
[11:20] <jenda> that
[11:21] <jenda> same as at doc.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <somerville32> Eww
[11:22] <somerville32> Use 0.14 or w/e it is
[11:22] <jenda> doc.ubuntu.com runs Breezy.
[11:24] <MitchM> JENDA !!!
[11:24] <tsmithe> !caps | MitchM 
[11:24] <tsmithe> hmmf?
[11:24] <tsmithe> ubotu??
[11:24] <MitchM> hah.
[11:24] <MitchM> tom-fool.
[11:24] <jenda> MitchM: :)
[11:24] <tsmithe> bah
[11:24] <tsmithe> :P
[11:24] <MitchM> jenda, you get it working?
[11:24] <jenda> MitchM: can you upgrade bzr? :)
[11:25] <MitchM> pssh.
[11:25] <jenda> you happen to have the same version mdke's breezy box does :)
[11:25] <MitchM> yes masta.
[11:26] <jenda> I wonder if me using it right now matters...
[11:26] <jenda> ;)
[11:26] <jenda> - [==                                                         ]  fetch phase 0/4
[11:26] <jenda> MitchM: you _aren't_ using breezy, are you? ;)
 jenda: for dapper, he can use 'deb http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/debs/ ./' in sources.list
[11:27] <MitchM> The following packages have been kept back:
[11:27] <MitchM>   bzr
[11:27] <jenda> maybe because I was using it?
[11:27] <jenda> try now
[11:27] <jenda> or try sudo apt-get install bzr ;)
[11:28] <MitchM> done
[11:28] <jenda> thx
[11:28] <MitchM> 0.11.0 good?
[11:29] <jenda> MitchM: yes, i think so :)
[11:29] <MitchM> *nods*
[11:29] <somerville32> Just use 0.13
[11:29] <jenda> !lart somerville32 
[11:29] <somerville32> You can download it from bazaar-vcs
[11:29] <jenda> somerville32: .11 should be good enough.
[11:30] <jenda> although sometimes I feel a .50 would do better ;)
[11:30] <somerville32> Well, you can use the 0.14 release candidate
[11:31] <jenda> meh
[11:33] <beuno> jenda, do you have any idea if Ubuntu/Canonical is participating in this:  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/20/0928221
[11:33] <beuno> and if not, who can we bring it to there attention?
[11:55] <jenda> beuno: sorry, it didn't load at first, and then I drifted off to the DIY wiki...
[11:55] <jenda> just a sec
[11:56] <jenda> beuno: I've never heard of it.
[11:56] <jenda> It should try to participate...
[11:56] <jenda> and the person to do that is...
[11:56] <jenda> Communications Manager.
[11:56] <jenda> It's not a community thing.
[11:56] <jenda> beuno: Christina Jane Armstrong
[11:56] <beuno> great
[11:57] <beuno> got her email addy handy?
[11:57] <jenda> beuno: <christina dot armstrong swat canonical cot com>
[11:57] <jenda> ;)
[11:57] <jenda> despammalize yourself ;)
[11:57] <jenda> two dots and an at
[11:58] <beuno> tnx, I'll contact her
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> swat?
[11:58] <jenda> tonyyarusso: 'at'
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, I understand - I'm jsut amused
[11:59] <jenda> tonyyarusso: I have the feeling using the same despammulization each time is very ineffective.
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> true
[11:59] <jenda> But I'm paranoid of course :)
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> I should talk to her too
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> The CBC seems very Linux-friendly, and I'll bet we could get a Feisty release story there.
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> But, first we _need_ press releases written for things other than tech sites.
[12:00] <jenda> I see my despamulisation is still ineffective...
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> Our current ones won't cut it in the general public.
[12:00] <jenda> I need to find a type no-one will understand ;)
[12:00] <jenda> poor CJA will now get flooded by -marketing people ;)
[12:01] <tonyyarusso> Nah, I already had her info.
[12:01] <beuno> seems I had it to
[12:02] <beuno> I think she was in the last marketing meeting, wasn't she?
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> yes
[12:03] <beuno> Jenda is faster the gmain contacts though  ;)
[12:03] <beuno> *gmail
[12:05] <jenda> haha :)
[12:06] <jenda> she popped in, yup.