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Jan 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 30 Jan 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00 UTC: Xubuntu === persia [n=persia@p3159-ipbf1401marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === nnonix [n=brad@xeon.bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:03] hi folks [09:03] anyone here for motu-meeting? [09:03] hi sistpoty [09:03] hi LaserJock [09:04] maybe [09:04] so... who's running the show today? [09:04] you are [09:04] or sistpoty [09:04] there only seems to be a couple of people here [09:04] I'd prefer if LaserJock would do it ;) [09:04] (am just about eating dinner *g*) [09:05] hi everybody [09:05] hi Adri2000 [09:05] I am here for motu [09:06] hi all === ScottK is here too to watch and learn. === zul lurks === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tsmithe is here === phanatic tries to follow the meeting === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === persia is here [09:07] well, I'll have to leave in less then an hour so we need to get with it === somerville32 is here. [09:07] sharms: to apply for ubuntu-dev membership? [09:07] the agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings === tsmithe will one day apply for that === tsmithe needs ubuntu memebership first... [09:08] sharms: if so, it's the wrong meeting ;) currently ubuntu-devs are approved by the TB, and soon by the MC [09:08] Adri2000: Just to listen [09:08] ok, SRU process [09:08] tsmithe: well, eventiall MOTU Council will do that too [09:08] sistpoty: you have the floor, let's get moving [09:08] sharms: ah, ok, fine then :) [09:08] has everybody followed the mails to -motu and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/SRURedone? [09:08] if not, please do so ;) === owh [n=onno@CPE-58-170-174-149.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:09] well... imo it takes way too much time until a update even hits proposed... [09:09] on the wiki-page, I've tried to make some proposals what can be fixed [09:10] but it might be a good thing if somebody *not* from the sru-team would make comments as well (as it's sometime hard to see problems if you're involved on one end) [09:10] so anyone some idea how to improve the sru-process? [09:11] well, the biggest problem, IMO, is how many people it has to pass [09:11] whoever is last to approve the package (in the SRU team) should upload it === keescook [n=kees@ubuntu/member/keescook] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:11] ajmitch: +1 [09:11] rather than it being approved & sitting there [09:11] ajmitch: if the last person is crimsun, we are already doing it that way ;) [09:11] good [09:11] we get delayed everytime it goes from 1 queue to another [09:11] but it doesn't always happen [09:11] eg libnss-ldap [09:12] ajmitch: so you propose to also upload stuff that have a motu as assignee? [09:12] yes [09:12] ah [09:12] it reduces delays [09:12] the person approving will already have the source there to look at [09:12] so uploading won't be a burden [09:12] I think as far as MOTU, having the last motu-sru voter upload and having a good system for displaying what's in -proposed [09:13] the biggest delay has been ubuntu-archive [09:13] LaserJock: yes [09:13] but that's not really in our control too much and sounds like it's getting worked on [09:13] LaserJock: FWIW Mithrandir is open to suggestions about reducing the checks ubuntu-archive is doing [09:13] would that be an option? [09:14] I think it would be good [09:14] I think he should basically just check versioning [09:14] and even that shouldn't be too bad if it goes through 3 motu-sru [09:14] +1 here as well, at least for -proposed [09:15] like I said in my email, getting into -proposed should be super easy [09:15] ok... any other opinions what we should improve for sru? [09:15] any objections to LaserJock proposal? [09:16] ok, if noone cries out loud, I'd call that a decision ;) [09:16] ;-) [09:16] good [09:16] NEXT! [09:17] release schedules... me again [09:17] Release schedules (sistpoty) [09:17] can we decide on this now? [09:17] we have feature freeze on the 8th, what does this mean for universe? [09:17] last time we had universe upstream version freeze at beta freeze (iirc) [09:18] ajmitch: imo we should decide now... we're overdue to get them listed on feistyreleaseschedule [09:18] and no new packages at feature freeze [09:18] which meant everything on REVU had to be in by FF [09:18] there was one mail from crimsun with pretty good proposals for dates... I'll look that one up [09:18] ok, dholbach's original proposal was keeping UVF same as Main and FF one week after Main FF [09:18] LaserJock: that can't be right [09:19] UVF is on the same day as feature freeze [09:19] I didn't think we'd have such an early UVF === ajmitch notes that this is related to the universe QA point [09:19] well, I swear UVF and FF weren't the same day but that's what the wiki page says [09:20] right [09:20] for edgy, we had UVF & no new packages at beta freeze [09:20] March 15th in this case [09:20] we also had an active UVF team that could do approvals [09:20] ah... found the mail: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001103.html [09:20] which needs to be sorted [09:21] I seriously think it depends on how hard the freeze is going to be [09:21] in Edgy we had to get approval for *every* upload after Beta Freeze didn't we? [09:22] that would slowed us down pretty much, right? [09:22] yeah [09:23] if we are going to have that hard of a freeze I'd like to delay it [09:23] if UVF and FF mean just that I'm fine [09:23] but if UVF/FF effectively cut off any more development I'm not so fine [09:23] well... for UVF it might be good to know what debian is/will be doing... ajmitch? === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:25] sistpoty: hah [09:25] funny [09:25] "etch will release" [09:25] no firm dates yet, I heard rumours of mid-feb [09:26] it seems like etch will be too late for us to re-merge all the new upstreams that are likely to hit unstable [09:26] ajmitch: oh, nice... we should put UVF definitely before the release of etch [09:26] LaserJock: no, we did *not* need approval for every upload after beta freeze, but after RC [09:26] ah RC [09:26] it was only for a week or two [09:26] not 5-6 weeks [09:27] well, it was when I was going to upload some bug fixes I think [09:27] ok, let's go over the unique dates... UVF [09:28] I think we should keep UVF with Main [09:28] is Feb 8 okay, sooner or later? [09:28] anyone else? [09:28] yay! my birthday === ajmitch doesn't like it, but oh well [09:28] we need to freeze some time [09:28] ajmitch: what you prefer? [09:28] hehe === tsmithe doesn't have enough experience to have an opinion [09:29] we need to get merges done and out the door [09:29] yes [09:29] it just means approval for everything new after that [09:29] & also clearing up REVU by the 8th [09:29] yes [09:29] no [09:29] that's FF [09:29] ajmitch: nope... UVF != FF [09:29] I propose FF be later [09:29] LaserJock: same here [09:29] UVF same to get merges done and get sort of settled in [09:29] and be consistent with Main [09:30] before etch release [09:30] but once merges are done and out of the way [09:30] hit REVU and get all the new crack in [09:30] it'll give us a few weeks to work on bugs [09:30] UVF = no new upstream version (only with approval) but new revisions don't need an approval? [09:30] geser: only new upstream versions [09:30] yes, "upstream" in this case is upstream upstream [09:31] *g* [09:31] new Debian revisions are ok [09:31] ok... let's vote so that we can move on [09:31] Feb 8? [09:31] +1 [09:31] +1 [09:31] (please clearly vote with -1 if you are against it) [09:31] for FF or UVF? [09:32] UVF [09:32] geser: UVF [09:32] +1 [09:32] 3 [09:32] 2 [09:32] 1 [09:32] ok, accepted [09:32] next: FF [09:33] FF: march 1st? sooner or later? [09:33] sooner [09:33] ajmitch: name a date please ;= [09:33] ) [09:33] really? [09:33] feb 22 [09:34] UVF+2 weeks [09:34] depends on how much time you want people to spend reviewing vs bug fixing [09:34] if we do one or two revu sprints during that time, might be ok [09:34] yeah [09:34] that's what I was just thinking [09:34] hehe [09:34] and announce it well [09:34] yes === sistpoty can read minds [09:34] so that people know there's a deadline === ScottK likes revu sprints. [09:35] sistpoty: :) [09:35] ok, votes please for feb 22 [09:35] FF [09:35] +1 here [09:35] so you'd have 1 month from now until universe FF [09:35] +1 [09:35] +1 [09:35] +1 [09:35] that gives us 3 weeks after FF before Beta Freeze [09:36] hopefully people don't yell too loudly for us deciding on dates ;) [09:36] ok... 3 [09:36] 2 [09:36] 1 [09:36] LaserJock: you think that's too long? [09:36] done... [09:36] hm ok [09:36] ajmitch: no, I'm thinking we will need time for QA and upgrade testing [09:36] we should try to be pretty locked down *before* Beta [09:36] we've done badly on that in the past [09:37] ajmitch: the dates should have been decided on the list a long time ago... but these things never work without MC ;) [09:37] hence the QA topic coming up :) [09:37] sistpoty: of course [09:37] sistpoty: easier to ask forgiveness than permission ;) [09:37] hehe [09:37] sistpoty: can you please edit the release schedule so we can get those "written in stone"? [09:37] is universe freeze on beta freeze? [09:37] geser: no [09:37] LaserJock: will do after the meeting ;) [09:37] geser: there is no universe freeze [09:38] none decided yet, anyway [09:38] universe freeze used to be FF + UVF combined [09:38] LaserJock: in edgy we had one [09:38] the hard freeze didn't work so well for edgy [09:38] noone uploaded bug fixes [09:38] geser: as sistpoty said Universe Freeze was just FF+UVF [09:38] geser: it was done because the Edgy cycle was short [09:38] so we can upload fixes till feisty release? [09:39] we have no freeze for fixes [09:39] as far as I can see [09:39] until the buildds & upload queue is set to manual [09:39] which is a couple of days before release [09:39] yes... [09:39] any more discussion needed for freeze dates? did I miss s.th.? [09:40] I don't think so, we just needed to rubber stamp it [09:40] ok, then let's move one, agreed? [09:40] can I inject a quick meeting item? [09:40] LaserJock: sure [09:40] At the end of last week I had a talk with kiko (LP dev) [09:41] and he expressed a desire for MOTU to have better representation with LP [09:41] and to work on making sure LP meets the MOTU's needs [09:41] to do this he wanted a MOTU representitive to work with the LP devs [09:42] to help prioritize bugs [09:42] and get feedback from MOTU and turn it into specific and concrete bug reports that they can work on [09:42] (bugs in the launchpad code, not universe bugs) [09:42] yes [09:42] sorry [09:43] sounds great :) [09:43] so, if there aren't any objections, I will take on this role === ajmitch agrees [09:43] hehe, I just wanted to propose you, LaserJock ;) [09:43] +1 [09:43] thanks for volunteering :) [09:43] and will probably be meeting with the LP team (in some fashion) on a weekly basis [09:43] great! [09:43] I've started trawling through Malone bugs [09:43] looking at bugs that seem important to MOTU [09:44] and in fact I found a few of our long standing complaints are long standing bugs in Malone [09:44] Yeah :-( [09:44] I will probably be using a special tag to mark certain bugs as MOTU priorities [09:45] the ability to target a bug for a release (for a SRU) in malone, currently only core-devs can do that [09:45] LaserJock: I'll have some things of LP as well... I'll write you a mail [09:45] so, if you have things that need to be fixed in LP (for MOTU work) please let me know [09:45] Adri2000: yep... would be really handy to get that fixed, at least for -sru / motu-swat [09:46] once I get things worked out with the LP guys I'll write an email to -motu explaining things further [09:46] but I really want to thank kiko for reaching out to MOTU [09:46] yay! [09:46] this was a really good idea on his part [09:46] :) [09:46] and has commited to giving MOTU what it needs if possible [09:46] Do we already have a policy on what really makes good candidates for backports? [09:47] anyway, that's it from me on that topic [09:47] bddebian: add it to the meeting agenda :) [09:47] and I have to run to try to convince 300 undergrads to by goggles from me ;-) I'll be back in ~15 min [09:47] bye :) [09:47] LaserJock: cya motu-lp-coordinator ;) [09:48] Heh, later LaserJock === ajmitch may or may not be around for the qa topic [09:48] ajmitch: how about doing it now? === ajmitch shrugs [09:48] ok, first up, we suck at QA [09:48] edgy was a shambles [09:48] we need to fix this [09:49] one reason I wanted an early freeze date, so that we have plenty of time for fixing bugs [09:50] I want us to have weekly targets of things to do (unmet deps, critical bugs, etc), which will require some coordination with the bug squad [09:50] sounds great [09:50] and I also want to try & get a list of bugs that are fixed in debian by new upstream versions that we don't have in ubuntu [09:50] since we find out a few weeks after release about RC bugs that missed out on UVF by a day or so [09:51] we've had the autoimporter shut off for so long that there may be many of these [09:51] any other suggestions for what we need to do to make feisty universe better? [09:51] hm... I even needed to file sync requests for two security bugs [09:51] we need also check for CVE fixed in unstable [09:51] yep [09:52] I can trawl the debian BTS via the LDAP gateway [09:52] but I need to get the version info on the debian bugs [09:52] ajmitch: cool [09:53] so, getting a list of packages that are older than in debian, getting a list of closed bugs, seeing what bugs were fixed in those versions we don't have [09:53] ajmitch: will you take leadership for universe-qa? [09:53] who wants to try & do some weekly task lists (council job, i know) [09:53] sure [09:53] ajmitch: cool, would be awesome === ajmitch grabs the whip [09:53] hehe [09:54] give me suggestions of what we need to fix [09:54] & how we do testing (upgrade & install testing, etc) [09:55] ajmitch: imo the most important thing is to try to motivate people to follow at least *some* task lists, instead of everybody working on something different [09:55] yep [09:55] which I guess will be the hardest part as well ;) [09:55] heh [09:55] we should also check that packages build on all archs [09:56] that should come under full archive rebuild testing [09:56] ajmitch: will that be done this time? [09:56] I hope so [09:56] I'll find out [09:57] maybe we could ask the same person who did it the last time [09:57] ajmitch: iirc lucas did archive rebuilds for unstable, didn't he? maybe he could set s.th. up for feisty as well? (if we cannot do it officially) [09:57] yes, he did [09:57] imbrandon can probably do some with his new toys [09:58] but this time with enough time for fixes [09:58] great [09:58] we should also try to fix as many unmet deps as possible... many sru's are due to unmet deps [09:59] (with really easy fixes!) [09:59] I'd love to get involved in some full rebuilds too; I'd like to test some toolchain changes at some point (separate from the feisty release stuff, obviously) [09:59] what about packages that failed building on upload but build now? [09:59] geser: certainly, I was filing a few bugs with fabbione after a full rebuild on sparc [09:59] geser: we get the admins to give them back to the buildds [09:59] keescook: excellent === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] ajmitch: is there a procedure to do the give-back? (my pings to lamont don't seem to have any impact) [10:00] sistpoty: lamont hasn't done that for ages [10:00] ajmitch: well, I can now... but yeah [10:00] unless he's been helping out recently [10:00] sistpoty: ask Mithrandir for give-backs [10:00] hey lamont` :) [10:00] hi lamont === lamont fades back into lurker mode === pochu [n=Pochu@156.Red-88-1-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] heh [10:01] ajmitch: exists a list of those packages that need a look (because it failed building)? [10:01] geser: there should be, if not, we'll get one [10:01] mails are sent out on build failures now as well [10:01] & we can officially beg the LP guys now [10:02] anything else for QA that we need to cover now? [10:02] I'd like to see removal of all NBS in universe. Some install and fail for known reasons. [10:02] we also need someone to do minutes of the meeting, please [10:03] @schedule [10:03] Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: MOTU | 24 Jan 12:00: Edubuntu | 25 Jan 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu [10:03] I can do the minutes... [10:03] persia: there's probably a lot we could cull from universe because they won't work without a lot of effort [10:03] sistpoty: thanks [10:04] this topic has sort of covered the needed todo lists as well [10:04] ok [10:04] unmet deps, bugs fixed in debian, critical/important bugs on malone, etc [10:04] sistpoty: you want to talk about translations soon? === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:05] erm... anyone got a clue about translations? [10:05] nope [10:05] I actually only set it as topic, since we got a mail on -motu [10:05] we'd need to talk to carlos === LaserJock is back [10:06] @schedule New_York [10:06] Schedule for America/New_York: Current meeting: MOTU | 24 Jan 07:00: Edubuntu | 25 Jan 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 30 Jan 15:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 15:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 17:00: Xubuntu [10:06] ok, then let's defer the item... anyone volunteering to contact carlos about it? === sistpoty is a little bit low on time atm :/ [10:07] then it's MOTU school [10:07] I lurked on a conversation between seb128 and carlos. Translations was related to a spec that was rejected, and needs revision (although I can't find the URL now). [10:07] we've been wanting to revive this for awhile, but it takes a reasonable about of time === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:08] persia: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/language-packs-for-universe ? [10:08] hm... maybe it might make sense to do short (as in very short) lessons prior to a new task (e.g. unmet deps) being the current one [10:09] sistpoty: probably a good idea, and link to the school session on the task lists [10:09] yes [10:09] ajmitch: Yep, that's it. The rejection was due to the volume and conflicts due to translations upstream vs. translations locally. [10:10] so we just need a call for volunteers for school sessions, and we can go for it ;) [10:10] sistpoty: great, that was the last topic, we can go home ;) [10:10] ajmitch: date of next motu-meeting? [10:10] do we want to decide now or defer to mailing list? [10:11] for what? next meeting? [10:11] LaserJock: yes [10:11] now + 3 weeks, exact date to be decided on list? [10:11] I think we should at least have a proposal right now [10:11] I think it should be the week after the MOTU Council get's finalized [10:11] make it a regular thing [10:11] LaserJock: hah [10:11] haha [10:11] sorry [10:11] +3 weeks sounds good [10:11] I can dream can't I? ;-) === nnonix [n=brad@xeon.bkjohnson.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [10:12] maybe we should rotate the time to cover different tz's? [10:12] sistpoty: good idea [10:12] sistpoty: a meeting every 3-4 weeks could be a good thing [10:12] ajmitch: agreed [10:12] let people bring up their complaints [10:12] yes [10:12] I think if we have regular reports as well it will help [10:13] yep [10:13] getting people going is what we need right now [10:13] wed, Feb 14? [10:13] let's say 8.00 UTC? [10:13] sistpoty: sure, 1 week before FF === ajmitch might be a little late for that, but it should work [10:14] ok, anyone against that date? [10:14] I think I'll be finished at practice at about 7:30UTC :) [10:14] ah sorry, that's wednesday, i have nothing on that day [10:14] hehe... and I need to get up early (before noon) [10:14] unless I get back to archery practice :) [10:14] .exut === jimpop [n=jimpop@mf04a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:14] well, that's midnight for me, but better than 10:00UTC [10:14] LaserJock: alright [10:15] we should rotate times [10:15] no objections? [10:15] no [10:15] I guess, with as many people as we have [10:15] not from me [10:15] great [10:15] we can hash it out on the ML if it doesn't work for people [10:15] ok, then thanks everyone for the meeting... [10:15] it is decided [10:15] I just think it's better to have a propasal, then work from there [10:16] thanks sistpoty for getting it running [10:16] np [10:16] & LaserJock [10:16] t'was small but very productive imo :) [10:16] sistpoty: thank you a lot for getting things going [10:16] and the REVU Reports are great [10:16] LaserJock: no problem... if I were that good with my thesis as well *g* [10:16] I meant, SRU Reports [10:17] oh, anyone got a clean log? kvirc unfortunately always has the colors in the log (or I'm to stupid to turn it off *g*) [10:17] sistpoty: I hear you dude, I've got a lot of research waiting for me [10:17] yay, I can get back to doing work now [10:17] hehe === ajmitch wrote a note in the system that he'd taken time to do ubuntu stuff, will have to make up the time tonight :) [10:17] *g* [10:18] back later [10:18] cya ajmitch === persia [n=persia@p3159-ipbf1401marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === keescook [n=kees@ubuntu/member/keescook] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D92BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-3bb300e97fc2c71f] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === ScottK [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.168] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-meeting []