[12:01] <blade> is it the screen that has the 'ubuntu' logo, and the text telling me all the things that is being loaded/started?
[12:01] <phaidros> cappiz, i recommend knoppix for that! they have a very neat approach !
[12:01] <bimberi> blade: yes
[12:01] <adaptr> godtvisken: "swap" drives ? what are those ?
[12:01] <bimberi> !usplash | blade
[12:01] <ubotu> blade: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[12:01] <ompaul> blade, usplash is a simple image that scrolling text runs up as the machine boots
[12:01] <cappiz> but they wont show me what ubuntu packages to install :
[12:01] <blade> and it is possible to use custom usplash screens?
[12:01] <cappiz> or somthing :P
[12:02] <gecko> any idea as to why none of my programs show up in the system tray?
[12:02] <bimberi> blade: see that factoid from ubotu
[12:02] <phaidros> cappiz, all i told you is only helpful: if you are looking for a solution to scan hardware at every boot.
[12:02] <fokuslee> his does anyone know a peer2peer TV software like tvant or pplive for linux?
[12:02] <cappiz> k thanks :)
[12:02] <blade> thank you..
[12:02] <phaidros> cappiz, if you only want to pimp your already installed ubuntu, there could be some hardware detection tool, ask synaptic for that :)
[12:03] <Math^> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2483/
[12:03] <godtvisken> adaptr: i know you know what i mean. swap space!
[12:03] <DingoK> is there a way to make apache2's directory list expand enough to display entire filenames, and not cut off at 80 chars or however many it does?
[12:04] <ikonia> Math^: whats all that stuff on your desktop
[12:04] <haxality> hello, I'm having a problem with my
[12:04] <Math^> ikonia, thats the vmware-installer
[12:04] <haxality> gnome hotkeys.
[12:04] <adaptr> godtvisken: okay, what does a UUID have to do with swap space ?
[12:04] <Math^> ikonia, vmware-server
[12:04] <ikonia> Math^: why is it on your desktop
[12:04] <adaptr> hot monkeys!
[12:04] <haxality> I have a shortcut key set to lock my screen
[12:04] <haxality> but it stopped working
[12:04] <ikonia> Math^: your meant to get it from apt-get
[12:04] <Math^> ikonia, becouse I dropped it there
[12:04] <ikonia> you don't need to drop it
[12:04] <bitchslapper> from a terminal how can I find out what a CD's volume name is?
[12:04] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen and vserver?
[12:04] <ikonia> you should just be able to install it from the ubuntu acrhive
[12:04] <Math^> ikonia, vmware-server is in synaptic?
[12:04] <Math^> ikonia, :X
[12:05] <Math^> oh...
[12:05] <ikonia> Math^: I thought it was - I could be wrong
[12:05] <Math^> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server?action=show&redirect=VmwareServer
[12:05] <godtvisken> adaptr: because I want to find the UUID of that partition. when i do `sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hdb2`, as you told me, and hdb2 is my swap parition, i get an error.
[12:05] <blade> ok i found a post in the forums the other day, that said something about downloading a splash screen manager (which i did) and using that to change screens. I downloaded a usplash screen i want. It then said to open this manager (System->Preferences->Splash Screen-> point to the file, and click activate) but when i click on the file i downloaded..all it does is close the splash screen manager..and nothing changes..
[12:05] <adaptr> godtvisken: what makes you think a swap partition has UUID ?
[12:05] <ikonia> Math^: I see
[12:05] <Centaur5> I have an internet connection getting an address but the majority of the packets are lost and web sites time out.  How can I fix it?
[12:05] <arno`> that's a secret
[12:05] <Math^> ikonia, yes
[12:05] <phaidros> adaptr, since edgy they have ;)
[12:06] <ikonia> Math^:  you may need a reboot to clear out things like vmware-moudles
[12:06] <ikonia> modules
[12:06] <adaptr> phaidros: stored where ?
[12:06] <ikonia> then dpkg will clean up the rest
[12:06] <ImNotScrewedAnym> !tvout
[12:06] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[12:06] <phaidros> adaptr, its a common update problem. and after sleep / hibernation. look into your fstab
[12:06] <Jowi> Centaur5, you're behind a router?
[12:06] <ImNotScrewedAnym> !tv-out
[12:06] <Centaur5> Jowi: nope
[12:06] <Jowi> Centaur5, dsl modem?
[12:06] <adaptr> godtvisken: where do you need the UUID ?
[12:06] <ikonia> ImNotScrewedAnym: you've just got the response for tvout
[12:06] <ikonia> why are you trying tv-out
[12:06] <phaidros> godtvisken, you need the uuid for the swap?
[12:06] <godtvisken> adaptr: the fact that `UUID=5700b7c7-3fd0-4f18-9c90-363ad4c542a1 none swap sw 0 0` is in my /etc/fstab
[12:06] <ikonia> when you got the response from tvout
[12:06] <Centaur5> Jowi: t-mobile sony ericsson gc89 gprs card
[12:06] <Math^> ikonia, ok, brb
[12:07] <ImNotScrewedAnym> i'm trying to update ubotu
[12:07] <godtvisken> phaidros: yeah
[12:07] <adaptr> godtvisken: okay, then all is well
[12:07] <Jowi> Centaur5, no idea about those.
[12:07] <ImNotScrewedAnym> for future users
[12:07] <ikonia> ImNotScrewedAnym: I think you won't have permissons to do that
[12:07] <LjL> ImNotScrewedAnym: an ATI howto would probably be usedful, but someone should turn it into a Wiki page first, i don't think a forum thread is best as a pointer for the bot
[12:07] <eternaljoy> has anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu on their macbook and created a dual boot menu?
[12:07] <ImNotScrewedAnym> it gets sent to admin
[12:07] <ImNotScrewedAnym> for review
[12:07] <godtvisken> adaptr: no, because i was resizing my partitions, so i want to make sure the UUID did not change
[12:07] <ikonia> eternaljoy: not personally - but my co-worker has
[12:07] <Centaur5> Jowi: haha, well I'm not so sure it's the card because everything is connected so I don't know where to go from here.
[12:07] <ImNotScrewedAnym> Ljl  probably true
[12:07] <godtvisken> adaptr: so when i reboot everything mounts correctly
[12:07] <phaidros> godtvisken, I do always when this occurs (until bug is fixed generally): mkswap /dev/hda2 than swapon -a then as control swapon -s
[12:07] <adaptr> godtvisken: and just using /dev/hdb2 won't work ?
[12:08] <phaidros> godtvisken, just generate a new uuid :)
[12:08] <ImNotScrewedAnym> It just worked, and it is better than the nothing that was there before
[12:08] <user-land> adaptr, i just saw you can easily update the instructions you gave me.
[12:08] <ikonia> ImNotScrewedAnym: not nessasaryly - be carefyl what you recommend
[12:08] <adaptr> user-land: great
[12:08] <humbolto> how can I disable hibernate an suspend to show up in the logout window?
[12:08] <phaidros> adaptr, godtvisken after reboot / sleep / hibernation edgy sometimes forgets swap-uuid ..
[12:08] <godtvisken> adaptr: using /dev/hdb2 where?
[12:08] <humbolto> I need this desperately!
[12:08] <frankd3> have anyone have problems with connecting bluetooth keyboard & mouse?
[12:08] <Jowi> Centaur5, well, normally in a dsl modem you can set the MTU value (to one that the ISP want and say work best) but I have no idea if a thing like that even exist on this kind of hardware (never came in contact with it)
[12:09] <adaptr> phaidros: are you telling me that mkswap will write to fstab ?
[12:09] <ikonia> frankd3: tons of times
[12:09] <ImNotScrewedAnym> ikonia theres a few radeon cards that are currently in no man's land... I'm just trying to help... quit bustin my chops
[12:09] <adaptr> godtvisken: in fstab, of course - I've used it for the last 6 years or so...
[12:09] <ignacio> hi
[12:09] <frankd3> is there anyway of solving that problem?
[12:09] <Centaur5> Jowi: Oh, alright then.  Thanks for responding though.
[12:09] <phaidros> adaptr, nup. but you then can put (after mkswap which tells ya the new uuid) it into fstab .. works until the swap forgets its uuid again ;)
[12:09] <godtvisken> adaptr: even with the new UUID system?
[12:09] <eternaljoy> ikonia: is your coworker there now?
[12:09] <ikonia> ImNotScrewedAnym: I'm not bustin your chops - I'm saying there is too much crap floating around, just recommend factual solutions not "can work" solutions
[12:10] <Feengur> lol.  these nvidia drivers are driving me insane :P
[12:10] <ikonia> eternaljoy: sorry not in work at the moment
[12:10] <adaptr> godtvisken: I don't see why - it's hardly a "system", as it's not mandatory AFAIK
[12:10] <phaidros> adaptr, godtvisken edgy ignores /dev/hda2 as swap in fstab sometimes, dunno why.
[12:10] <Mayasha____1> my webcam on my site    www.ghidul-universitatilor.ro/?3853
[12:10] <Feengur> has anyone in here installed Nvidia drivers for the 7600gt?
[12:10] <ikonia> Mayasha____1: we don't need to see that
[12:11] <ikonia> Feengur: the nvidia drivers out the repo work
[12:11] <Feengur> yeah, they install and i get 800x600
[12:11] <ikonia> Feengur: so re-confiugre it
[12:11] <Feengur> but my refresh is wrong and i can't change the res
[12:11] <Feengur> already did
[12:11] <ikonia> Feengur: change the refresh
[12:11] <adaptr> Feengur: edit xorg.conf
[12:11] <Feengur> i did
[12:11] <Feengur> lol
[12:11] <Vandalay> google for modeline
[12:11] <ucordes> i can't run vdr. i keep getting 'vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR' how can i fix this?
[12:12] <adaptr> Vandalay: owww.. why would he want to do that ?
[12:12] <Vandalay> or not
[12:12] <bitchslapper> how do I download a package from ubuntu repositories, I don't want to install it .. just download
[12:13] <bimberi> bitchslapper: apt-get -d
[12:13] <Math^> erm... with who I was talking about vmware-server again? @_o
[12:13] <ikonia> me
[12:13] <Math^> ah yes :)
[12:13] <LjL> bitchslapper: sudo apt-get --download-only install <packagename>
[12:14] <Math^> ikonia, its the same message :/
[12:14] <LjL> bitchslapper: you'll find it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:14] <Math^> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[12:14] <ikonia> Math^: check again for the vmware kernel modules
[12:14] <bitchslapper> LjL, bimberi, thanks :)
[12:14] <Math^> ikonia, ok
[12:14] <Feengur> just checked the xorg again
[12:14] <Feengur> sall right
[12:15] <ET-Ben> No sound on my laptop
[12:15] <rio> anyone know how to add an ip address to the allowed in firestarter through a terminal?
[12:15] <ET-Ben> Any help?
[12:15] <user-land> adaptr, after reboot, how can i check if the nvidia driver is being used ?
[12:15] <Math^> ikonia, how I can find the vmware kernel modules?
[12:15] <ikonia> Math^: do the find again
[12:15] <Vandalay> check mb /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:15] <warlock> Anyone know what to remove, or add if you wish to have a stable ubuntu 5.10 breezy server?
[12:15] <adaptr> user-land: splash screen
[12:15] <ikonia> ET-Ben: you've asked about 10 times and got loads of responses
[12:15] <godtvisken> Does anyone know what happened? Every since I booted from an Ubuntu installation disc, the terminal display is larger than my actual monitor, so at some points I can't read what it displays. How can I fix this?
[12:16] <ET-Ben> ikonia: and none have workd
[12:16] <rio> err....anyone know how to add an ip address to BE allowed in firestarter through a terminal?
[12:16] <Math^> ikonia, find / -name 'vmware'* or something?
[12:16] <ikonia> Math^:
[12:16] <ikonia> Math^:  yes
[12:16] <ikonia> ET-Ben: have you checked if your card is supported
[12:16] <adaptr> user-land: ...which you disabled - smart, that :)
[12:16] <ET-Ben> ikonia: Its a standard card and Ubuntu recognises it natively
[12:16] <adaptr> user-land: open terminal, type: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:17] <ikonia> ubutu repos don't do detection - and whats a "standard card"
[12:17] <Math^> ikonia, sudo find / -name 'vmware'*
[12:17] <Math^> find: paths must precede expression
[12:17] <Vandalay> and study the format of xorg.conf
[12:17] <ikonia> Math^: find / -name 'vmware*' -print
[12:17] <Math^> ikonia, oh ok :)
[12:17] <user-land> direct rendering: Yes :-)
[12:17] <bimberi> rio: I don't offhand. But firestarter uses iptables, so there will be an iptables command to do it
[12:18] <Math^> ikonia, only in cash and info
[12:18] <ikonia> pardon
[12:18] <kidstar64> how do i install softwere i downlaod off the internet
[12:18] <ikonia> kidstar64: depends what format
[12:18] <Pobega> kidstar64: Did you download it from source?
[12:18] <edog^> Im having trouble getting my keyboard setup properly.  My  and ~ keys need to be hit twice before theyll show up properly.  What do I have to change with my keyboard setup to get this to work?
[12:18] <user-land> i have the impression that things are much sharper now, adaptr ...
[12:18] <ardchoille42> user-land, "Direct rendering: Yes" doesn't mean anything. I am using onboard graphics with the via driver, and I can't do 3d graphics, but my Direct Rendering says yes.
[12:19] <user-land> aha, ardchoille42.
[12:19] <kidstar64> well no matter what i seem to downalod, theres no way to install it
[12:19] <adaptr> user-land: much quicker, too :)
[12:19] <user-land> how would you check, ardchoille42 ?
[12:19] <ikonia> kidstar64: what format is it in
[12:19] <gecko> anyone here very familiar with the beryl install process?
[12:19] <adaptr> user-land: next step: beryl!
[12:19] <kidstar64> .gz
[12:19] <Pobega> kidstar64: What are you downloading? In all fairness you should be using the repos, but you can also download .debs (For Ubuntu, not Debian!) or download from source.
[12:19] <ikonia> kidstar64: and what have you done with it
[12:19] <ardchoille42> user-land, run something that needs 3d graphics and see how well it does.
[12:19] <adaptr> ardchoille42: dri is somewhat different than a binary nvidia driver
[12:20] <kidstar64> when i open it theres no execubatbul
[12:20] <Pobega> kidstar64: tar xvvf file.tar.gz  /  cd file  /  ./configure  /  make  /  sudo checkinstall make install
[12:20] <Math^> ikonia, I've also tried autoremove... but he still says that there is an previous version installed :/
[12:20] <ikonia> kidstar64 you shouldn't be using that - as its clear its beyond you undersanding at this moment in time
[12:20] <ikonia> Math^: ask in #vmware
[12:20] <gecko> i am having questions about  Adding an Xgl login session... whats the best way to do this????
[12:20] <user-land> !beryl
[12:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:20] <kidstar64> yea, that makes no sence to me
[12:20] <ikonia> Math^: see what it does for detection
[12:20] <kidstar64> is there a tutorisl
[12:20] <Pobega> Well kidstar64, what are you trying to install?
[12:20] <ikonia> kidstar64: don't use .gz files
[12:20] <fokuslee> !democracy
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <kidstar64> nothing in paticular
[12:21] <ikonia> its too advanced for you at the moment and could break your system
[12:21] <adaptr> weheh
[12:21] <ikonia> kidstar64: what are you trying to install
[12:21] <fokuslee> !democracytv
[12:21] <user-land> beryl is not in synaptic, adaptr ?
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracytv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <warlock> Anyone know how to see a list of installated programs on ubuntu 5.10 server?
[12:21] <ikonia> kidstar64: whats the name of the package
[12:21] <ardchoille42> adaptr, I think "Direct Rendering: Yes" != the ability to do 3d graphics.. which means the "Direct Rendering:Yes" means nothing.
[12:21] <adaptr> user-land: nope
[12:21] <kidstar64> i deleted them rite now
[12:21] <Pobega> kidstar64: Use the repositories to search for it; Synaptic or Add/Remove programs works well.
[12:21] <adaptr> ardchoille42: you think, or you know for a fact ?
[12:21] <ikonia> kidstar64: what hwere you trying to install
[12:21] <kidstar64> i forget now <_<
[12:21] <kidstar64> brb
[12:21] <ardchoille42> adaptr, Well,  I am using onboard graphics with the via driver, and I can't do 3d graphics, but my Direct Rendering says yes.
[12:22] <Feengur> Section "Screen"
[12:22] <Feengur>     Identifier     "Default Screen"
[12:22] <Feengur>     Device         "XFX Nvidia GeForce 7600GT"
[12:22] <Feengur>     Monitor        "COMPAQ 7550"
[12:22] <Feengur>     DefaultDepth    24
[12:22] <Feengur>     SubSection     "Display"
[12:22] <Feengur>         Depth       1
[12:22] <adaptr> ardchoille42: so not even Mesa works for you ?
[12:22] <Feengur>         Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:22] <Feengur>     EndSubSection
[12:22] <Feengur> not listing all the modes...
[12:22] <ikonia> Feengur: don't flood the channel !
[12:22] <Pobega> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ for pasting
[12:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Feengur about paste | Feengur, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:22] <adaptr> Feengur: irrelevant - you need to enter your monitor's refresh rates
[12:22] <Vandalay> set the correct hdync/vrefreshrates in monitor section
[12:22] <Feengur> lol soz
[12:23] <Feengur> i did already
[12:23] <ikonia> not "lol"
[12:23] <Pobega> Spamming up the channel isn't a good idea, so normally on IRC people use paste sites to copy/paste output from commands. Honest mistake, I used to do it all of the time ;P
[12:23] <Math^> ikonia, it was just the directory with settings that I had to remove :/
[12:23] <ikonia> Math^: thats great
[12:23] <Math^> :)
[12:23] <Spider> I'm something of a linux newbie, and I have a question...
[12:24] <ikonia> Spider: ask
[12:24] <fokuslee> anybody know an alternative to democracyTV/
[12:24] <Spider> can someone recommend me a good all in one media player
[12:24] <madj0c1> i need help with my monitor brightness (i am running 6.10 on sony vaio vgn.
[12:24] <adaptr> !ask | Spider
[12:24] <Vandalay> you can make the perfect modeline by looking in the nvidiadriver in xp
[12:24] <ubotu> Spider: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:24] <Pobega> Spider: That's what we're here for :)
[12:24] <ikonia> Spider: totem is in gome and work s
[12:24] <ikonia> works
[12:24] <Vandalay> the timingd
[12:24] <Vandalay> s
[12:24] <Pobega> Spider: Well, I use totem, it works pretty well.
[12:24] <unperson> I trust there's no problem in using XFS as an fs for /, right?
[12:24] <Textboo1> anybody in here use XMMS ?
[12:24] <Feengur> i didn't know the paste was going to flood
[12:25] <ikonia> Textboo1: yes
[12:25] <Pobega> Textboo1: I do :D
[12:25] <ikonia> unperson: not really
[12:25] <Spider> mmm, I've been using totem a little for watching movies
[12:25] <ardya> hi folks
[12:25] <Textboo1> where's it located so I can select it for Firefox ?
[12:25] <Spider> but it doesn't seem to have much in the way of a media library
[12:25] <Feengur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2485/
[12:25] <ikonia> Textboo1: /usr/bin
[12:25] <Textboo1> trying to use Shoutcast
[12:25] <Vandalay> totem is horrible use mplayer/xine
[12:25] <Textboo1> thx ikonia
[12:25] <Feengur> that's the refresh
[12:26] <Vandalay> or vlc
[12:26] <madj0c1> hi all, need help with getting brightness control.  running 6.10 on sony vaio vgn
[12:26] <ikonia> its all personal taste
[12:26] <ciscosurfer> Hello everyone.
[12:26] <madj0c1> tried spicctrl
[12:26] <Pobega> Vandalay: It works fine for me, it's the only thing I could get working with the w32 codecs.
[12:26] <godtvisken> When I tried to start my computer and it was loading X, it just gave me the error that "Could not start the X server due to some internal error". How do I find out what this error is?
[12:26] <HLM> anyone having problems with installing flashplayer?
[12:26] <ryanakca> where can I find the list of wireless drivers supported under linux?
[12:26] <ikonia> godtvisken: look at /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:26] <Vandalay> yes flash is known for the browser crashes
[12:26] <Pobega> HLM: What problems are YOU having?
[12:26] <ardya> is xfce4 or gdm built in such a way as to ignore xorg.conf options, like Virtual, and ctrl+alt +/- to cycle resolutions?
[12:26] <ikonia> !hcl >ryanakca
[12:26] <adaptr> godtvisken: /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:27] <adaptr> bah
[12:27] <ikonia> ardya: no
[12:27] <HLM> won't install
[12:27] <Vandalay> yes var/log/xorg.log
[12:27] <Feengur> ...
[12:27] <As[l] an> !exim
[12:27] <ubotu> exim: An obsolete MTA (Mail Transport Agent), replaced by exim4. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 762 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[12:27] <kiamo> whoa adaptr your still here helping people
[12:27] <kiamo> respect :)
[12:27] <ryanakca> thanks ikonia
[12:27] <ndo> n1, how can i switch on channel member list in Xchat plz?
[12:27] <As[l] an> !exim4
[12:27] <ubotu> exim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.62-2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[12:27] <ikonia> ndo: /join #channel
[12:27] <karolina_14> does someone know how to chat in spanish?
[12:27] <Feengur> que?
[12:27] <fokuslee> !spanish
[12:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:27] <ikonia> !es > karolina_14
[12:27] <Music_Shuffle> karolina_14, yeah, but there is a channel dedicated to it.
[12:28] <Textboo1> ikonia: listening to Shoutcast now thanks to you :) !
[12:28] <rx> DEBIAN QUESTION: is running etch packages in sarge a bad idea???
[12:28] <karolina_14> where? 4music
[12:28] <ikonia> Textboo1: no problem
[12:28] <ikonia> rx - join #debian
[12:28] <madj0c1> hi all, anyone help me with a brightness control problem...
[12:28] <ikonia> rx this is ubuntu
[12:28] <Pobega> rx: Yeah, #debian on this same server is the channel for Debian.
[12:28] <kiamo> does anyone know if there is a channel dedicated to debootstrap?
[12:28] <Music_Shuffle> karolina_14, the channel ikonia and the others just told you, #ubuntu-es
[12:28] <rx> ok
[12:28] <kiamo> i need some help getting it working
[12:28] <godtvisken> ikonia, adaptr: thank you. now, what am i looking for in this log?
[12:28] <Vandalay> for errors
[12:28] <ikonia> godtvisken: "EE" indicates error "WW" indicates warning
[12:29] <godtvisken> ikonia: ok
[12:29] <Feengur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2487/
[12:29] <Feengur> if i run nvidia-xconfig how do i scan the pci bus for the proper busid?
[12:29] <madj0c1> anyone help me with brightness issues?
[12:29] <kiamo> !chroot
[12:29] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:30] <ikonia> Feengur: lspci
[12:30] <user-land> yes, things are much faster, adaptr and ardchoille42, thank you.
[12:30] <Pobega> Feengur: Even easier, if you know what you're looking for grep it. lspci | grep vidia
[12:30] <ndo> ikonia, so u dont have answer for my question ? :)
[12:30] <warlock> Anyone know how to see a list of installated programs on ubuntu 5.10 server?
[12:31] <ikonia> ndo: what was your question
[12:31] <warlock> installed* even
[12:31] <ndo> euhm
[12:31] <ndo> ty, but im now in a channel alredy, if u c, my question is, in a mirc for  example i was able to c list of ppl in a channel, how can i switch it on in a Xchat :
[12:31] <godtvisken> OK, the only error I see in there is "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom" But I have no idea what this device is. Any ideas?
[12:31] <_maurizio_> re
[12:31] <ardchoille42> user-land, I was just told that Direct Rendering means hardware acceleration, not "the ability to perform 3d graphics".
[12:31] <Feengur> 0000:03:00.0 would be >  PCI0:3:0 ?
[12:31] <hoov> is there as way to revert to an older version of a program, or take back a patch you applied?  I just did a whole bunch of patches, one of which was for firefox and now it is crashing on a consistant basis and I cannot establish why looking at the various websites I am visiting.
[12:31] <ikonia> ndo: you want to see a list of users in the channel ?
[12:31] <P0ldy> warlock: use this command -- dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[12:32] <_maurizio_> I'm trying to burn a cd with ubuntu live. I have just one cdrom drive. is it stupid or can I do it?
[12:32] <ikonia> godtvisken: thats not a problem, thats a tablet input device
[12:32] <ndo> ikonia, yes, exactly :)
[12:32] <ikonia> ndo: sorry no idea
[12:32] <adaptr> godtvisken: can you paste your xorg.conf ?
[12:32] <ndo> ok np, ty
[12:32] <godtvisken> adaptr: where?
[12:32] <adaptr> !paste
[12:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:32] <kiamo> !feisty
[12:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:32] <ikonia> ndo: its under "discussion" tab the "users" button
[12:32] <AndrewB> !nvidia
[12:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:32] <warlock> P0ldy, running ubuntu server.
[12:33] <P0ldy> warlock: it will still work.
[12:33] <Feengur> iko:  0000:03:00.0  would be input to the nvidia-xconfig as PCI 0:3:0 ?
[12:33] <warlock> I want to see the installed packages on my server, just have no idea of how to see it.
[12:33] <warlock> oh, sorry.
[12:33] <ikonia> ndo: did you see that ?
[12:33] <godtvisken> adaptr: no mouse because of no X. let me try to upload it somewhere
[12:33] <Feengur> that's what lspci returns
[12:33] <adaptr> well, I have kiba-dock, but it's all crappy.. off to bed now
[12:33] <madj0c1> need help with brightness control on my laptop anyone?
[12:33] <ndo> ikonia, sec
[12:33] <ikonia> madj0c1: stop asking, wait for a while
[12:34] <madj0c1> k
[12:34] <ardya> hi..xubuntu 6.10, everythings working, except the ability to cycle through vid resolutions with ctrl+alt +/-, also the Virtual desktop defined in xorg.conf is being ignored. X.0.log reports no errors. All resolutions in xfce4 display settings work. running xfce4 from gdm...what would disable ctrl+alt +/-, and why would the Virtual in xorg.conf be ignored?
[12:34] <ikonia> ardya: /join #xorg - you'll get advanced config help there
[12:34] <oFFbeAt> i have n nvidia chip.. n driver installed.. now i wanna know y synaptic wants to update drivers for ATI
[12:34] <oFFbeAt> and how to fix that
[12:35] <LjL> ardya: the ctrl-alt +/- issue is known (though i don't know if it's being worked upon), and apparently stems (weirdly enough) from some stack protection that's been added as a compile flag in 6.10
[12:35] <louis__> hey guys, what do I need to have nvidia support in my custom kernel?  I got nvidia-legacy-kernel-source (for my tnt2), but when I try to modprobe the drivers it claims they do not exist
[12:35] <ikonia> LjL: its stack-smash protection
[12:35] <ikonia> LjL: part of the HCL security options
[12:35] <ikonia> oops HLC
[12:35] <ardya> LjL: oh?
[12:35] <ndo> ikonia, euhm, pardon, but i dont c it..
[12:36] <As[l] an> oFF-beAt, what do you mean updating? is it downloading the ATI driver when you run upgrade?
[12:36] <ikonia> can you see the discussion tab at the top
[12:36] <LjL> ardya: i'll see if i can dig up the bug report
[12:36] <warlock> P0ldy, didnt seem to work
[12:36] <mrbond> What do I install to be able to print to a pdf file?
[12:36] <oFFbeAt> As[l] an, yes
[12:36] <ardya> LjL: no no current fix?
[12:36] <ardya> err
[12:36] <LjL> ardya: i don't think... but i don't really know, haven't checked in a while, i can live with one resolution honestly :)
[12:36] <ndo> i have .. Xchat View Server Settings Window Help ..
[12:37] <ikonia> ndo: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome
[12:37] <oFFbeAt> so
[12:37] <P0ldy> warlock: did you look at the list afterwards?  dpkg --get-selections outputs the installed packages to a file called "installed-software".  Then just "cat installed-software | less" to read it
[12:37] <Feengur> koekje erbij?
[12:37] <ardya> LjL: I could too, if xorg would use the Virtual I configured.
[12:37] <warlock> P0ldy, got no list :p
[12:37] <ndo> Xhcat i guess, whats default in Ubuntu 6.10?)
[12:37] <P0ldy> warlock: The whole thing into one line would look like : dpkg --get-selections > installed-software && cat installed-software | less
[12:37] <warlock> oh, thanks.
[12:38] <godtvisken> When I tried to start my computer and it was loading X, it just gave me the error that "Could not start the X server due to some internal error". The only error I found it Xorg.0.log is "Cannot open device /dev/wacom" as far as I know I don't use a device with that name. What could be the problem?
[12:38] <ikonia> ndo: you should see "irc / edit / network / discussion / go / help" in the tabs
[12:38] <As[l] an> oFFbeAt, it'll only upgrade to a new package if you've got it installed to begin with. just remove the ATI driver package.
[12:38] <LjL> ardya: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/64926 - but not much here
[12:38] <warlock> Is there something I could remove that's not needed for a server, that might eat cpu/ram or such P0ldy ?
[12:38] <oFFbeAt> As[l] an, i dun have ati installed
[12:38] <bluefox83> ok, my girlfriend foolishly did sudo rm -rf /dev/hdc   now how do i redo it?
[12:38] <ardya> LjL: so it IS a compile time issue with xorg itself?
[12:39] <ikonia> bluefox83: just reboot - udev will fix it
[12:39] <P0ldy> warlock: well, sure, but it obviously depends on what you're using the server for.  Naturally you won't need an x-server if you have one, or alsa, ...I mean, you can uninstall anything you aren't using... that'd slim it down
[12:39] <Ubuntu_on_fire> hey for the gnome network manager do i have to download all of these http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/network-manager-gnome
[12:39] <ndo> i bet ur using the other one than i do, cuz my tabs are different ;)
[12:39] <ikonia> bluefox83: and don't blame your girlfriend
[12:39] <LjL> ardya: i can't positively say, and i don't even remember what was the rationale behind that conclusion right now. in upstream it's marked as fixed now, though
[12:39] <bluefox83> ikonia, i did...it didn't fix anything..her cdrom still wont work
[12:39] <ikonia> is /dev/hdc there ?
[12:40] <warlock> P0ldy, gonna use it for game servers only, anything I could remove thats not needed? running 5.10 breezy
[12:40] <ardya> upstream, is that a separate repository?
[12:40] <oFFbeAt> As[l] an, how do i remove it.. or prevent it from askin me to update ati drivers?
[12:40] <As[l] an> oFFbeAt, apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:40] <bluefox83> ikonia, nope
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> ardya: No, it means like the original developers.  ie, for gnome stuff, upstream is the gnome project.
[12:40] <oFFbeAt> xserver-xorg-ati
[12:40] <ikonia> bluefox83: then you've done something else
[12:40] <ikonia> bluefox83: as udev will re-create it
[12:40] <As[l] an> first run that to see if its installed. if it is: remove it by typing `apt-get remove packagename`.
[12:41] <As[l] an> I dont see how else it could've gotten downloaded accidentally, if that is ever possible
[12:41] <ryanakca> is perl installed by default?
[12:41] <P0ldy> warlock: I'm no expert on game servers and I don't know what you've got installed already, but you could look at removing services running in the background by default, like cups (print service) or Apache if you aren't running a web server (again, might be required for a gaming server, I've never set one up)
[12:41] <ikonia> ryanakca: take a look
[12:41] <ikonia> don't ask - look yourself
[12:41] <bluefox83> ikonia, is there a way to get udev to recreate it without restarting?
[12:41] <ikonia> bluefox83: why ?
[12:41] <oFFbeAt> xorg-driver-fglrx:
[12:41] <oFFbeAt>   Installed: (none)
[12:41] <oFFbeAt>   Candidate: 7.1.0-8.30.3+2.6.17.9-1
[12:41] <ikonia> bluefox83: if you've restarted and its not working - then you've done something else
[12:41] <ryanakca> ikonia: sure... how?
[12:41] <warlock> P0ldy, everything I need is screen,ssh - that's all.
[12:42] <oFFbeAt> that's the out put
[12:42] <ardya> tonyyarusso: If I'm up to date on all pkgs, I'm allegedly fixed?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: I don't have a /dev/hdc, so I'd question that
[12:42] <oFFbeAt> and below is the repos
[12:42] <warlock> P0ldy, can we talk in private or such?
[12:42] <roj> hey i got a slight problem here...anyon familiar with Ubuntu 6.06 used in a Acer 5100
[12:42] <godtvisken> Er.. somehow my partition was mounted as read-only? How can I fix this?
[12:42] <P0ldy> warlock: check out this thread for getting rid of unneccessary services http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[12:42] <As[l] an> ryanakca, perl --version
[12:42] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: do you have 3 IDE harddisks ?
[12:42] <warlock> as Im gonna ghost this installation on 10 other servers tomorrow, need this done asap :(
[12:42] <edion> how do i renew ip?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Nope.
[12:42] <P0ldy> warlock: probably best just to keep it in the chat since there are other more knowledgable people here that could probably chime in their two cents
[12:42] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: there you go then
[12:42] <bluefox83> ikonia, she removed /dev/hdc because it was pointing to a card reader and her cdrom
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> ardya: Maybe.
[12:42] <P0ldy> warlock: plus, I'm leaving for a bit
[12:43] <louis__> is there a more full-featured guide to custom kernels for ubuntu than what is on the wiki?
[12:43] <ryanakca> As[l] an: I might've installed it some time since last may... this isn't a fresh install... just wondering about if it was a fresh install...
[12:43] <ardya> well apparently not, as I have the issue
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: That's for cd rom in this case...
[12:43] <ikonia> bluefox83: how can it be pointing to 2 devices
[12:43] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: yes thats right
[12:43] <warlock> ok, P0ldy - any ideas on how to recompile a kernel? need to change it's HZ to 1000
[12:43] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: so ?
[12:43] <bluefox83> ikonia, no idea, but it was
[12:43] <ardya> ah well, thanks
[12:43] <ndo> ikonia, ive founded it, its in "Settings/Prefferences/User List/Show Hostnames in userlist" my problem was i needed to restart Xchat to get it ;)
[12:43] <ikonia> bluefox83: what makes you think it was
[12:43] <oFFbeAt> this just doesn't make any sense..
[12:43] <mikey_la> i uninstalled the openoffice suite & now apt-get is telling me to run "apt-get autoremove" which will remove the whole ubuntu-desktop package
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: So I do have a cd rom, but not an hdc.  so I don't think udev requires that to exist.
[12:43] <louis__> warlock, ha, that's exactly what I'm trying to do!  I got it compiled, but it's a little.. not working exactly right
[12:43] <mikey_la> any ideas?
[12:43] <edion> how do i renew ip?
[12:44] <warlock> oic louis__, guess we're both unlucky :p
[12:44] <rpedro_> Does anyone recommend against using 'prelink' ? I'm following the guide here http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/index.php?title=Guia_de_Optimizacao#Usar_o_Prelink_para_as_aplica.C3.A7.C3.B5es_come.C3.A7arem_mais_rapido (portuguese)
[12:44] <godtvisken> What could have caused my partition to be mounted read-only?
[12:44] <l3on_> hi all
[12:44] <Lpcnew> Hey, anyone from brasil?
[12:44] <haxx0r> yes
[12:44] <LjL> !br | Lpcnew
[12:44] <Lpcnew> hi
[12:44] <ubotu> Lpcnew: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:44] <As[l] an> oFFbeAt, when do you see it getting downloaded? ryanakca : don't know how to sort that out. fiddle a bit with apt-cache options or dpkg commands to see the install history
[12:44] <warlock> root 7589 0.0 0.2 3252 1152 ? Ss 00:28 0:00 /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server - is this what I think it is P0ldy ?
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> rpedro_: Not necessarily, but I don't know that I would recommend it either.  Tried it, but don't see a difference.
[12:44] <bluefox83> ikonia, in places->computer i right clicked and found both the cdrom and a card reader were both from /dev/hdc
[12:44] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: if you don't know what your on about - don't speak
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[12:44] <ndo> ikonia, ive founded it, its in Settings / Prefferences / User List / Show Hostnames in userlist.  my problem was i needed to restart Xchat to get it ;)
[12:44] <l3on_> I 've some problem with xmms, it start only by root
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: ?
[12:44] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: talking about you not having a hdc
[12:44] <ikonia> ndo: thats great
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: what about it?
[12:45] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: never mind
[12:45] <Vandalay> now thats a safe system
[12:45] <aalhamad> Lpnew... no
[12:45] <mzanfardino> Okay, quick question: where can I find information relating to setting up my keyboard in xorg? I've a general idea of what I want to do but i need to know what options I have...
[12:45] <ndo> ikonia, ty anyway :P
[12:45] <mikey_la> i don't want to run "apt-get auto remove" since that will remove the gui. any ideas to get around this?
[12:45] <ikonia> bluefox83: you've done something very strange to your system, a device file only references one device
[12:45] <djmccormick> what file holds ssh login attempts
[12:46] <two|face> hey anyone know how to run and configure opendchub on ubuntu? :)
[12:46] <godtvisken> What could have caused my partition to be mounted read-only?
[12:46] <ikonia> djmccormick: auth file in /var/log
[12:46] <kuma> hi, i'm going to buy a new board, processor and power source, i know i have to reinstall WinXP, but do I have to reinstall Linux? I'm using the last version of Kubuntu
[12:46] <mzanfardino> to put it another way, how do i configure Ubuntu to fully recognize my Microsoft Natural Keyboard (not the 4000, the original)?
[12:46] <ikonia> two|face: don't even know what it is
[12:46] <bluefox83> this install was all fubared from the start...i had to change some hardware and bios shit just to get the ubuntu installer to boot up
[12:46] <ikonia> bluefox83: I don't need that language
[12:46] <False_Courage> Da Bears Won!!
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | False_Courage
[12:47] <ubotu> False_Courage: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:47] <ndo> anyone, what was a command to change ur  nickname ?:)
[12:47] <ikonia> ndo: /nick
[12:47] <godtvisken> kuma: if you back up the data that you want onto a non-boot drive/parition, it would be better i think
[12:47] <ndo> ty
[12:47] <False_Courage> :'(
[12:47] <bluefox83> ikonia, oh sorry..i wasn't trying to be a jerk, you're actually helping a lot.
[12:47] <ikonia> ndo: read the xchat docs - its not an xchat support channel
[12:47] <KeL> ok, sry
[12:47] <mzanfardino> xorg.conf - microsoft keyboard - configuration - any help?
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Although xchat is included in Ubuntu, so as long as their reasonably polite about it, that's a valid question.
[12:48] <godtvisken> Er.. somehow my partition was mounted as read-only. How can I fix this and how did it happen?
[12:48] <kuma> godtvisken: hmmmm, it's a shame since all the updates takes ages to download, anyway, thanks for answering my question
[12:48] <Vandalay> dont you have system-preferences-keyboard
[12:48] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: agreed, but he's asking loads of questions about xchat - some are obvious basic stuff which if he doesn't know he should read so he can use it
[12:48] <godtvisken> kuma: yeah.. but i'm not exactly sure.
[12:48] <kuma> godtvisken: but i agree with you, i think it's best
[12:48] <mzanfardino> Okay, what about this: what other options can I set instead of "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch" ??
[12:49] <edion> ok i now im lost "sudo timestamp too far in the future"
[12:49] <godtvisken> kuma: i just know that you would at least be able to save personal data like music, but i don't know about things more closely related to your computer like kernel stuff
[12:49] <kiamo> chromium is not running properly on my radeon1600+
[12:49] <SSB___> does anybody know if this windows-in-vmware method will work on ubuntu? http://rougebob.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware.htm
[12:49] <kiamo> it loads but its going at about 1 frame every 3 seconds
[12:49] <ikonia> SSB___: join #vmware - they have advanced theory discussion
[12:49] <kiamo> could this indicate that theres something up with my graphics card?
[12:50] <preaction> kiamo: your 3d acceleration is probably not set up properly
[12:50] <kiamo> huh
[12:50] <preaction> !ati @ kiamo
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati @ kiamo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <warlock> louis__, any success?
[12:50] <kiamo> should i uninstall the ati drivers and reinstall?
[12:50] <Vandalay> vmware works great, but you need to have the accelerated drivers from the vmware server package
[12:50] <kiamo> !ati
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <Dreamglider_> How do i get a kernel that suits my centrion Duo cpu ??
[12:50] <kuma> godtvisken: yeah of course, I have all my data in a third FAT32 partition, only complaining for all the updates and cutomizing i have to do again xD
[12:50] <mzanfardino> so, does this mean I need to go to #xorg if I want help with the XkbOptions setting?
[12:50] <ET-Ben> New problem: I can get my Ubuntu to 'clunk' when I do stuff in th evolume control panel - and it stops if I mute master -wahey - but I can't get sound in any programmes
[12:50] <sleepy723> does anyone know how to compile kiba-dock?
[12:50] <kiamo> thanks preaction
[12:50] <warlock> what is 'cron' used for? cronjobs? if so, is it safe to remove it?
[12:50] <louis__> warlock, nah, I need some basic help with kernel tweaking (how to avoid clean-recompile, if that is possible), splash screen and then nvidia help
[12:51] <kiamo> ill take a look
[12:51] <webmaren> how do get widescreen to work in edgy with a radeon x550
[12:51] <ikonia> ET-Ben: have you checked if you sound card is supported
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> !cron | warlock
[12:51] <ubotu> warlock: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:51] <ET-Ben> ikonia: Yes - its a n AC97 :)
[12:51] <ikonia> ET-Ben: what make
[12:51] <adaptr> sleepy723: I got it working with this tutorial: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[12:51] <ET-Ben> ikonia: Conex
[12:52] <adaptr> sleepy723: but if your desktop doesn't support composites and transparency, it looks horrible :)
[12:52] <ikonia> ET-Ben: and your confident its supported
[12:52] <ET-Ben> ikonia: Yup
[12:52] <ikonia> ok
[12:52] <morpheus74> I'm installing Edge on my lap top that already has win XP.  How would you recommend I partion the drive?  I was thinking one for home, one for root, and one for swap?  How big should partitions be?
[12:52] <ET-Ben> ikonia: and now I have it clunking (i.e. producing sound) just not in any prgrammes
[12:53] <adaptr> morpheus74: root: 8GB, swap: depends on your ram, and /home the rest
[12:53] <warlock> ok tonyyarusso, what's "getty"? I see a few of these in top
[12:53] <ikonia> ET-Ben: I don't know - there is obviously something very wrong if none of the debug links are working
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> morpheus74: That's a pretty individual question, really.  I recommend looking at how much data you have to put in home, and judging from there.  swap, prolly 512M - 1gig
[12:53] <adaptr> morpheus74: incresae /root if you expect to install a lot of software
[12:53] <morpheus74> adaptr, I have 512MB ram, shoud I double that for swap?
[12:53] <Dreamglider_> i need a kernel for intel centrino duo, pleasl help
[12:53] <kiamo> how do I remove the ati drivers i installed from ati.com?
[12:53] <ET-Ben> ikonia: its annoying - itsl like programmes are trying o use OSS not ALSA, but when I set ALSA - still no effect
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> warlock: That's the thing behind the logins on Ctrl-Alt-F1
[12:54] <adaptr> morpheus74: unless that would eat into the rest of the disk space, sure
[12:54] <adaptr> morpheus74: how much space do you *have*?
[12:54] <ikonia> kiamo: you have to manually delete them
[12:54] <kiamo> how?
[12:54] <ikonia> kiamo: rm
[12:54] <morpheus74> It's a 20 gig drive, I'm not sure how much XP ate up!
[12:54] <kiamo> how do i locate them...
[12:54] <Roy> I am a ubuntu newbie. I am in deep trouble. I attempted to update to Nvidia graphics drivers. Thought I followed the instructions, but am now locked out of the installation. When I try to boot from the HD it dumps me to a command prompt. How do I do a REPAIR install without losing all previous installed stuff and settings. I am currently on an CD boot.
[12:54] <kiamo> sorry im a big noob ;)
[12:55] <Vandalay> these things will happen
[12:55] <adaptr> morpheus74: too much, trust me in this
[12:55] <ET-Ben> Without offending you are ther any other simple distros I can try to check if the sound works with?
[12:55] <Vandalay> try to understand one of the text mode editors
[12:55] <Spider> OK, this is odd...
[12:55] <morpheus74> adaptr, What's too much, the swap size?
[12:55] <Vandalay> to config the xorg.conf
[12:55] <Spider> I have music playing, but I can't see any open programs that are playing it
[12:55] <ikonia> ET-Ben: try any live cd dsitro
[12:55] <adaptr> morpheus74: WIndows :) of course you know how much it eats - start the Ubuntu CD and it will tell you
[12:55] <morpheus74> adaptr, Never mind, I think you mean XP eates too much.
[12:56] <adaptr> morpheus74: just boot the CD
[12:56] <adaptr> morpheus74: wired internet or wifi ?
[12:56] <Spider> is there a way to find out what applications are running?
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> Spider: gnome-system-monitor
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> or top
[12:56] <adaptr> or ps
[12:56] <adaptr> or pstree
[12:56] <webmaren> Spider: kill mpg123
[12:57] <adaptr> or htop
[12:57] <tetsuo9> i have a quick question... i'm wanting to dual boot Linux on my windows laptop, just for fun.   and i'm trying to decide between Slackware and Ubuntu...   what are some good traits of ubuntu?
[12:57] <Dreamglider_> is there noone that knows what kernel i need for a centrino duo cpu ?
[12:57] <morpheus74> adaptr, Wired now, but will try getting wifi card to work later.
[12:57] <ikonia> Dreamglider_: the edgy one is fine
[12:57] <BULLE> tetsuo9: easy installation and ease of use
[12:58] <ikonia> Dreamglider_: IF your motherboard is supported
[12:58] <adaptr> Dreamglider_: search the forums, there are plenty more people out there
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> tetsuo9: Generally, good hardware support, ease of stuff, community.
[12:58] <adaptr> morpheus74: in that case just boot the CD, anything you need to do can be done from the install
[12:58] <tetsuo9> i'm currently torrenting Ubuntu 6.10.. is that a decent version?
[12:58] <webmaren> tetsuo9: three words: five step install
[12:58] <adaptr> it is
[12:58] <ikonia> tetsuo9: its the latest stable
[12:58] <Dreamglider_> i expect some help here. :/ this is aferall ubuntu support channle
[12:58] <tetsuo9> all right, cool.
[12:59] <morpheus74> adaptr, Ok, it's a 37 gig hd, XP consumes 7 gigs, and there is a fat 16 partition consuming 25MB.  Do I need the fat partition, or can I remove it?  Also, what's the partition that both Win and Linux can use?
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> !patience | Dreamglider_
[12:59] <ubotu> Dreamglider_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:59] <ikonia> Dreamglider_: you've just been helped
[12:59] <IamUnique> Question: Is it easy to connect ubuntu to a wireless internet?
[12:59] <SamsLembas> Hi. I have been trying to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in order to reconfigure some settings to get Ubuntu working correctly with my wide screen display. However, I get the following error during the first step of it:
[12:59] <adaptr> Dreamglider_: stop whining, go to !forums
[12:59] <SamsLembas> " xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[12:59] <SamsLembas>    customized
[12:59] <SamsLembas> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:59] <SamsLembas>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070120190833"
[12:59] <SamsLembas> Anyone know what is going on?
[12:59] <SamsLembas> I just installed the system, so nothing is customized.
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: And yes, you already got your answer - what's left?
[12:59] <BULLE> IamUnique: it can be very easy, to nearly impossible, depending on what hardware you have, and the configuration of your wireless network
[01:00] <adaptr> morpheus74: if the laptop came with the fat partition, then yes, you need it, and also, FAT :)
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> IamUnique: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport, see wireless cards
[01:00] <Roy> I am a newbie in trouble can someone help please ?
[01:00] <Dreamglider_> tonyyarusso: i have, what is it ?
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> IamUnique: If your card is supported, then yes.
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: That the edgy one is fine if your mobo is fine
[01:00] <webmaren> !ask | Roy
[01:00] <ubotu> Roy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:00] <BULLE> Roy: no one knows, as no one can read your mind, so no one knows what you need help with
[01:00] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas why if i use lynx/w3m/links2 i can't seam to login to my route
[01:00] <morpheus74> adaptr, I think I'm good to go.  Thanks for the help!
[01:00] <unperson> I looked at http://stuporglue.org/initrd.php which suggested I could fix this via BusyBox.
[01:00] <Aggort> No one else is answerring so I'll try here...I jsut got compiz installed on Edgy, but whenever I try to enable the GL desktop I lose my title bar, so I can't move or close any windows. Any ideas why and how to fix it?
[01:01] <Dreamglider_> tonyyarusso: i cant turn on the duo in bios, the system wont boot if i do
[01:01] <Spider> OK, so it seems i have vlc running in the background.  I'm more than happy to just kill it, but is there a way to make it visible again.  It seems odd that I can't access it easily and yet it's still running and playing music...
[01:01] <BULLE> Aggort: sounds to me like compiz isnt starting
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: Is this a home-built machine?
[01:01] <Roy> ubotu, I did but no one answered. Here again :- I am in deep trouble. I attempted to update to Nvidia graphics drivers. Thought I followed the instructions, but am now locked out of the installation. When I try to boot from the HD it dumps me to a command prompt. How do I do a REPAIR install without losing all previous installed stuff and settings. I am currently on an CD boot.
[01:01] <ikonia> Dreamglider_: have you check your motherboard is supported ?
[01:01] <Dreamglider_> tonyyarusso: nop. it's a dell inspiron 9400
[01:01] <Textboo1> I love it when people answer the bots, haha
[01:01] <BULLE> Textboo1: the bots have feelings aswell!
[01:01] <webmaren> hehe
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: At what point in the boot process does it fail?
[01:02] <Aggort> BULLE: why? How do I fix it
[01:02] <adaptr> !nvidia | roy
[01:02] <IamUnique> so it all matters what kind of router i got not what kind of pci wireless card, right?
[01:02] <ubotu> roy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:02] <BULLE> Aggort: no idea, and no idea
[01:02] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: I don't think the dells are supported yet
[01:02] <adaptr> Roy: you can still do everything it says on a command line
[01:02] <BULLE> Aggort: check logs ?
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: What does that even mean?  Lots of people use Dells just fine...
[01:02] <Dreamglider_> tonyyarusso:  when the "Worm" scrolls over the screen it stops/hangs
[01:02] <webmaren> anybody know why 1200X800 doesn't work in edgy w/ an ATI card
[01:02] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: I've seen a few dell laptops complaining due to the chipsets they use for C2d
[01:02] <BULLE> ikonia: no, the other way around
[01:02] <BULLE> IamUnique: no, the other way around
[01:03] <BULLE> IamUnique: the router shouldnt matter, the pci card in question will matter, a LOT
[01:03] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: dells are fine, but the later ones don't appear to have the correct mobo support
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: It would probably be a good idea to remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options from your boot line in grub, so you can see more about what's going on.
[01:03] <unperson> Anyway, I had thought that the problem with booting off a RAID0 root partition was that the kernel wasn't able to read it, however, I find that in Busy Box I can mount /dev/md0 and I see the root partition contents.  Anyone have any idea what the problem is then
[01:03] <unperson> ?
[01:03] <Roy> adaptr. How do I get back to the generic drivers and undo what I screwed up ?
[01:03] <BULLE> IamUnique: you MUST make sure your particular card is supported in linux, not all are
[01:03] <Dreamglider_> tonyyarusso:  how do i do that ?
[01:03] <adaptr> Roy: why would you want to ? installing and configuring the nvidia binaries takes 10 miunutes at most
[01:04] <BULLE> unperson: boot needs to be a normal partition, or raid-1 - mirroring
[01:04] <BULLE> unperson: as your bootloader needs to be able to read the kernel and initrd files
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider_: First, hit Esc to get yourself to the grub menu if it's not showing already.  then, while the Ubuntu line is selected, I think you hit 'e' to edit.  Arrow down to the kernel line, hit 'end' and they should be there.  If my keys are wrong, there are instructions on the screens for editing lines.
[01:04] <IamUnique> i got a Dynex 802.11g Wireless-G Wireless Desktop Card is it supported?
[01:04] <adaptr> Roy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gets you back to square one
[01:04] <unperson> BULLE:  /boot is a plain ol' ext2 partition.  / is RAID0, though.
[01:04] <BULLE> IamUnique: no idea, use the ubuntu support forum
[01:04] <ikonia> !hcl > IamUnique
[01:05] <BULLE> unperson: as long as /boot is a plain old ext2 partition, all is fine
[01:05] <TGPO> Roy from command line 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then scroll to Driver "nvidia" and change it to "nv"
[01:05] <unperson> BULLE:  So I'd hope, but as I said, my system isn't booting.
[01:05] <BULLE> unperson: now, i dont know how well ubuntu handles this, but the idea is that the initrd needs to support raid, and it should scan all disks for raid, lvm etc, at boot, and then boot the /
[01:05] <Roy> adaptr. I might if you know what you are doing. I am a Windows guru and am lost with this. Can you give me some step by step instructions. I have followed the ones in the docs and got in a mess. If I type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the command line will that get me back in ?
[01:06] <ikonia> roy yes
[01:06] <adaptr> unperson: boot from a CD and recreate the initrd
[01:06] <adaptr> Roy: you *are* in - you just don't have X
[01:06] <IamUnique> dynex is hot on the list of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported so i guess its not supported then...
[01:06] <adaptr> Roy: did you use the "official" nvidia guide ?
[01:07] <TGPO> Roy "windows guru" = "needs training wheels" here
[01:07] <SamsLembas> When I do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg:, I get the following error on the second step of the dialog. I just installed the system, so nothing is customized. Anyone know what is happening?
[01:07] <SamsLembas> " xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[01:07] <SamsLembas>    customized
[01:07] <SamsLembas> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[01:07] <SamsLembas>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070120190833"
[01:07] <IamUnique> i mean its not
[01:07] <Roy> adaptr. OK then if I type - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   will that give me X ?
[01:07] <ikonia> IamUnique: doesn't look like it
[01:07] <tetsuo9> and just a survey of opinion:  i have a wireless network, linksys product, and a Dell laptop with a builtin wifi card... would it be very difficult to set up a connection to this network through linux?   i have no prior networking experience.
[01:07] <adaptr> good point, TGPO; how would he define a Windows guru anyway ?
[01:07] <gecko> i have officially gave up on beryl
[01:07] <ikonia> Roy: how many times - that will let oyu reconfigure X
[01:07] <IamUnique> dang it. lol
[01:07] <adaptr> Roy: answer my questions first, if you please
[01:07] <unperson> BULLE:  Right.  So what's puzzling is that when it kicks me out to BusyBox, I can mount /dev/md0 manually.  I thought that'd mean that initrd does have the ability to read it.
[01:07] <TGPO> Sams 1: dont flood use pastebin, 2 so what, it told you it made a back up
[01:08] <BULLE> unperson: i would think the same yes
[01:08] <BULLE> unperson: should be easy to find out aswell, just uncompress and mount the initrd
[01:08] <adaptr> unperson: perhaps you need to fix your fstab ?
[01:08] <Roy> adaptr. I am doing my best here. Which question ?
[01:08] <bobbyd> hi
[01:08] <thisguy> hi all
[01:08] <ikonia> BULLE: surly thats the busy box kernel thats allowing that - not initrd
[01:08] <thisguy> quick question
[01:08] <Dreamglider_> ok lets see what happens
[01:08] <adaptr> Roy: *how* did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[01:08] <bobbyd> does anyone know which package contains the "mail" command ?
[01:08] <SamsLembas> TGPO: Huh? It never told me to make a back up. It said that it made one, which it did, while also closing the dialog.
[01:08] <ikonia> bobbyd: mailx
[01:08] <thisguy> does the ubuntu 6.10 alternate cd contain a text based install?
[01:08] <adaptr> !mailx | bobbyd
[01:08] <ubotu> mailx: A simple mail user agent. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 288 kB
[01:08] <mattfletcher> what packages wud i need to run a network where the same logons work across the entire system
[01:08] <ikonia> thisguy: yes
[01:09] <thisguy> thanks
[01:09] <bobbyd> ikonia: thanks
[01:09] <ikonia> mattfletcher: kerberos/nis/nis+/ldap
[01:09] <ikonia> mattfletcher: any of them
[01:09] <unperson> adaptr:  My confusion is that I can mount the root partition from BusyBox.  Does this suggest that initrd already has the appropriate stuff for handling the RAID?
[01:09] <thisguy> just tried to install with the regular but b/c i have an nvidia video card it kept freezing
[01:09] <TGPO> SamsLembas, read close, it told you it made a backup, just in case everything blew up on you so you could revert if you had to. what are you freaking out about?
[01:09] <thisguy> dl the alternate right now
[01:09] <Roy> adaptr. I installed the nvidia drivers using the instructions on the BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia pages
[01:09] <thisguy> thanks again
[01:09] <adaptr> unperson: if the initrd is all you have loaded at this point, then yes
[01:09] <SamsLembas> The dialog stopped running when it did that, so I can't finish it.
[01:10] <mattfletcher> right, and nfs would let users mount a remote directory as there ~?
[01:10] <adaptr> Roy: then you can finish the instructions too - you don't need X to configure this
[01:10] <Roy> adaptr. That is how I lost X
[01:10] <unperson> adaptr:  Sorry, I'm a little behind.  Bad irc client here.
[01:10] <ikonia> mattfletcher: yup
[01:10] <adaptr> Roy: you juts made a typo somewhere, or did not read well... it's no big deal
[01:10] <adaptr> see ? I made a typo too :)
[01:10] <Led-Hed> Anyone here got a few minutes to help a guy out with LIRC in Edgy?
[01:11] <ikonia> Led-Hed: whats up
[01:11] <Roy> Well I thought I follow the instructions correctly.
[01:11] <adaptr> unperson: I';d think it has more to do with your net connection than a *text* chat client :)
[01:11] <mattfletcher> ikonia: so what could i use to lock down dekstop settings - backgrounds, panels etc (gnome)
[01:11] <ikonia> mattfletcher: profiles
[01:11] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I'm trying to install MythTV + Lirc on Ubuntu 6.10.  But having troubles.
[01:11] <adaptr> Roy: do them again, from the top, from the commandline
[01:11] <adaptr> Roy: if there are steps you cannot do a second time it will tell you so
[01:11] <ikonia> Led-Hed: need more details than "having problems"
[01:12] <mattfletcher> ikonia: what and where is that?
[01:12] <Led-Hed> ikonia, My first time Using Ubuntu (Comming from Fedora)
[01:12] <Roy> adaptr. OK thanks I will try that. Hope not to be back later :-)
[01:12] <ikonia> mattfletcher: you need to setup profiles in the users home directories that are read only
[01:12] <ikonia> or mount .gnome ontop of their home dirs
[01:12] <ikonia> read only
[01:12] <adaptr> Roy: hmm it seems the nivida guide assumes you have X.. not too smart, that
[01:12] <unperson> adaptr: At this busybox prompt I'm at there is no /etc (I guess this is in initramfs, according to the  prompt).
[01:12] <adaptr> Roy: I can give you the commands you need to type
[01:12] <Aggort> hey Bulle, why wou;dn;t Compiz start, because you were right, it isn't
[01:12] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I've installed lirc via apt-get and the lirc-modules-source,  then run dpkg to configure the modules.
[01:13] <elbeto> Easy question for you guys. i have a network of 2 ubuntu machines and one winxp. I have everything connected and working but I can't get into the ubuntu machines form windows because is asking me for a login. What i have to do?
[01:13] <BULLE> Aggort: no idea, you will have to check the logs
[01:13] <unperson> adaptr:  Er, sorry, there's /etc but no /etc/fstab
[01:13] <ikonia> unperson: busy box has no file systems to to speak
[01:13] <kidstar64> hello, I'm having a problem with my azures, when i try to open a .torrent file, it says its not a file? what am i doing wrong
[01:13] <adaptr> unperson: no matter, mdraid stores its config on the disks
[01:13] <Roy> adaptr. Yes please my friend.
[01:13] <Aggort> anyone have any idea why Compiz wouldn't start>
[01:13] <ikonia> kidstar64: run file against it, make sure your user has permissions
[01:13] <adaptr> Roy: do you have the command prompt open ? i.e. are you logged in ?
[01:13] <Led-Hed> ikonia, problem is that I cant get "irrecord" to work.
[01:13] <sid__> hey any idea why X would crash after reboot and exit to command login before you can read the error log?
[01:13] <Aggort> BULLE: Could it be because Xgl might not be installed properly or something\
[01:13] <Aggort> ?
[01:13] <ikonia> Led-Hed: whats the error
[01:13] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I can load the lirc_serial module
[01:13] <ikonia> sid__: driver error
[01:13] <BULLE> Aggort: yes that might be the case
[01:13] <Roy> adaptr. I am currently logged in from the CD
[01:13] <kidstar64> "run file against it" i have no idea what this means
[01:14] <ikonia> Led-Hed: this is a common problem, see if the device exists in /dev and then check the syslog for the kenrel module loading errors
[01:14] <Aggort> BULLE: alright
[01:14] <sid__> ikonia: hmm, could have swore i installed the ati drier a while back...
[01:14] <elbeto> I can't get into the ubuntu machines form windows because is asking me for a login. What i have to do?
[01:14] <adaptr> Roy: then you have X now.... okay, let's try something
[01:14] <ikonia> sid__: doesn't mean there is no bugs
[01:14] <Led-Hed> ikonia, "irrecord: could not init hardware"
[01:14] <Roy> adaptr. OK go
[01:14] <__james> i install kde on my pc and i can see all there applications in gnome.. is that normal?
[01:14] <kidstar64> "run file against it" i have no idea what this means
[01:14] <unperson> adaptr:  The is a /etc/mdadm file.
[01:14] <ikonia> Led-Hed: anythign else - it normally complains again "can't acces /dev/something"
[01:14] <adaptr> Roy: is your harddisk on the desktop ?
[01:14] <TGPO> __james, yes
[01:14] <HymnToLife> __james, yes
[01:15] <Roy> adaptr. NO
[01:15] <eternalswd> I started a new xserver with xinit -- :2 but am now done with it.  How do I shut that one down?
[01:15] <__james> oh ok
[01:15] <Led-Hed> ikonia, "(lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)"   I verified that lircd isnt running.
[01:15] <TGPO> eternalswd, ctrl alt backspace
[01:15] <adaptr> Roy: bugger :) okay, I'll give you the commands you need to do when booted from the HD itself; write them down (print them out) and try them later
[01:15] <eternalswd> thanks
[01:15] <ikonia> Led-Hed: thats strange, it normally complains about devices in /dev
[01:16] <Dreamglider> hello again
[01:16] <sid__> hmm i changed it back to default
[01:16] <adaptr> Roy: (starting from this point is waaay too long)
[01:16] <facenew> OT: a 30-min movie mocking kim jong il and his secret agent buying something from china: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EE52D9ED01495685
[01:16] <sid__> unable to connect to x server on invoking startx
[01:16] <Roy> adaptr. Roger.
[01:16] <ikonia> Dreamglider: hello
[01:16] <Led-Hed> ikonia, in /dev/ I have 2 devices.  lirc0 and lircd
[01:16] <adaptr> Roy: are you registered on freenode ?
[01:16] <ikonia> Led-Hed: thats a good start
[01:16] <Dreamglider> Ok after the network was started i got an error:
[01:16] <ikonia> Led-Hed: really - thats normally the "pain" bit
[01:16] <kidstar64> if i try to open a . torrent in the bittorent program it temms me that the file name is already in use
[01:16] <eternalswd> is it possible to start a new gnome session when creating another xserver session?
[01:17] <ikonia> eternalswd: how would you create multiple x-server sessions
[01:17] <Roy> adaptr. I am not sure. I am so new the terminology is a muddle to me at the mo.
[01:17] <Dreamglider> ikonia:  17179594.752000 BUT Soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[01:17] <eternalswd> ikonia xinit -- :2
[01:17] <Dreamglider> BUT=BUG
[01:17] <unperson> BULLE:  How do I uncompress and mount initrd?
[01:17] <ikonia> Dreamglider: yeah - no support
[01:17] <morpheus74> adaptr, when I'm creating new partitions they shoudl be ext3, right?  Do they need to be primary, or can they be extended?
[01:17] <kidstar64> if i try to open a . torrent in the bittorent program it tells me that the file name is already in use
[01:17] <Led-Hed> ikonia, honestly lirc in Ubuntu seems a bit more complex to get running than in Fedora.  In FC all I needed was the module loaded, a lircd.conf, and a lircrc file for mythtv
[01:18] <ikonia> kidstar64: means the torrent is running
[01:18] <eternalswd> ikonia or am I misunderstanding what that command does?
[01:18] <unperson> BULLE: Presumably I find it in /boot?
[01:18] <Agent_X_> guys how can i stop gedit from creating backup files that end with "~" every time i want to save or edit files?
[01:18] <fokuslee> anyone know a good alternative to democracytv?
[01:18] <sid__> hmm, how would i uninstall a driver then..
[01:18] <adaptr> Roy: I mean can I PM you here - but I guess not :(
[01:18] <ikonia> Led-Hed: I'd agree with that
[01:18] <kidstar64> but i dont have the torrent running
[01:18] <adaptr> morpheus74: you're giving up on raid0 for the moment ? :)
[01:18] <ikonia> eternalswd: yeah, think you've miss-understood that
[01:18] <kidstar64> it wont work on azures or bittorent
[01:18] <adaptr> morpheus74: sorry, confuxed you with unperson
[01:18] <adaptr> morpheus74: are you on the install CD now ?
[01:18] <Led-Hed> ikonia, in FC if I wanted to load the module I just added a line to my /etc/modprobe.conf,  I'm lost in Ubuntu
[01:19] <ikonia> Led-Hed: /etc/modules is the same
[01:19] <morpheus74> yes.
[01:19] <gecko> i cant get beryl to work.. are there versions that arent working or may have problems?
[01:19] <adaptr> Roy: it would help a *lot* if you know what you did up to the point that X would longer start
[01:19] <adaptr> morpheus74: the defaults you are given are always ext3 - accept them
[01:20] <Roy> adapr. Standby I will see exactly where it went pear shaped.
[01:20] <Agent_X_> guys how can i stop gedit from creating backup files that end with "~" every time i want to save or edit files?
[01:20] <morpheus74> Ok.  What about making the partition a primary vs secondary?
[01:20] <adaptr> morpheus74: and the partition types depend on how many you have
[01:20] <unperson> adaptr:  No, I'm not.  I'm just confused as to what to do next.
[01:20] <adaptr> morpheus74: you can have a max of 4 primary partitions, of which windows already takes 2
[01:21] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I have added "lirc_serial" to /etc/modules and I added a line to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but still no luck.  Though I would be happy if I could just get irrecord working at the moment
[01:21] <adaptr> unperson: can you access/mount the raid0 system from anywhere ?
[01:21] <ikonia> Led-Hed: I'll have to do some research
[01:21] <__mikem> Are there any ops around in here?
[01:21] <Roy> adaptr. I typed in sudo nvidia-xconfig and it gave me some information and then rebooted. At that point X would not load again.
[01:21] <Dreamglider> when i enable duo in bios i get this error 17179594.752000 BUG Soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[01:21] <ikonia> __mikem: they are normally lurking
[01:21] <apokryphos> __mikem: yes, what's the problem?
[01:21] <Led-Hed> ikonia, thanks,  appreciated
[01:21] <ikonia> Dreamglider: lack of support
[01:21] <adaptr> Roy: the "information" was *critical* :)
[01:21] <__mikem> apokryphos they are talking politics in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:21] <ikonia> Led-Hed: may take me a bit
[01:22] <__mikem> and tempers are beginning to flair
[01:22] <ikonia> __mikem: is that bad ?
[01:22] <unperson> adaptr:  Yes.  Now that I'm at this busybox prompt that says (initramfs) I can mount /dev/md0 and I see what appears to be the contents of the root partition.
[01:22] <morpheus74> adaptr, That's what the error message stated.  Does it make a difference if it's a primary?
[01:22] <apokryphos> __mikem: let us know about complaints in #ubuntu-ops :)
[01:22] <adaptr> Roy: your best bet is to either run dpkg-reconfigure or repeat the nvidia-xconfig and note what it says
[01:22] <adaptr> unperson: and initrd is loaded ?
[01:22] <Dreamglider> what must i do then ?
[01:22] <adaptr> morpheus74: it makes no difference to Ubuntu
[01:22] <Roy> adaptr. From what I remember it told me it had backed up some file. Possibly xorg.conf ??
[01:23] <morpheus74> OK
[01:23] <morpheus74> Thanks again!
[01:23] <adaptr> Roy: if so, you can restore the old version
[01:23] <uFranky> i have a DVB-T device connected to my server running ubuntu edgy desktop with generic kernel. it works fine with kaffeine on the server itself. now i would like to stream the dvb-t signal into my lan. how can i manage this?
[01:23] <unperson> adaptr:  I can reboot and use a live CD or something if that's better, but I don't as yet know what I should try to do.  :-)
[01:23] <Textboo1> !ati
[01:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <ikonia> Dreamglider: get a supported release
[01:23] <adaptr> unperson: and initrd is loaded ?
[01:23] <Led-Hed> ikonia,  on my other FC boxes,  in /dev I have what looks like a link from "lirc" -> "lirc0"
[01:23] <Roy> adaptr. That is what I want to do. Just don't know how.
[01:23] <matteo> is dangerous to use feisty?
[01:23] <ikonia> Led-Hed: thats what I'd expect
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> matteo: Depends who you are.  #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <ikonia> matteo: yes if you are not confident with what you're doing
[01:24] <unperson> adaptr:  I don't know.  I mean, I thought that must be what this is that's running at the moment.  Since / wasn't mounted.  How would I tell?
[01:24] <Led-Hed> ikonia, should it just be a symlink?
[01:24] <ikonia> Led-Hed: I would expect it to be - but that doesn't mean its right as that may not be how ubuntu uses it
[01:24] <ikonia> udev rules for FC and ubuntu differ a lot
[01:25] <Led-Hed> oh
[01:25] <adaptr> Roy: boot the HD, log in, run "sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.old", then "sudo mv xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf"
[01:25] <KrisWood> Ok I've had enough! Windows is going away for good. I need help though finding some programs that I use often... Could anyone tell me a good torrent client for ubuntu?
[01:25] <adaptr> unperson: "mount"
[01:25] <prattmic> Goobuntu!
[01:25] <ikonia> KrisWood: apt-cache search torrent
[01:25] <uFranky> is it impossible?
[01:25] <BULLE> KrisWood: azureus
[01:25] <uFranky> !dvb-t
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <uFranky> !dvb
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <KrisWood> Also what's a good looking gnome desktop theme? I'm getting tired of the default one hehe
[01:26] <Roy> adaotr. OK thanks got that. I will try that now
[01:26] <uFranky> !tvstream
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvstream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <Roy> Back in a while
[01:26] <KrisWood> Thanks!
[01:27] <ikonia> KrisWood: www.gnome-look.org
[01:27] <uFranky> the tricky thing about it is that i can obly access the server with ssh
[01:27] <mattfletcher> has anyone ever got microsoft autoroute to run on wine? fix that and i'm sold forever
[01:27] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I'm using the lirc_serial module.  I need to run "setserial" prior to loading the lirc_serial module,  where should I do that?
[01:27] <fokuslee> anyone know an pplive or tvant for linux?
[01:27] <KrisWood> ikonia, I looked there but couldn't figure out how to install them :(
[01:27] <ikonia> KrisWood: drag and drop
[01:27] <KrisWood> is there a tutorial for how to install gnome themes somewhere?
[01:27] <mattfletcher> oh, autoroute, and a way to connect to remote desktop to windows web server edition machines (they require an activex remote desktop applet)
[01:27] <ikonia> Led-Hed: not sure - I've not done this on ubuntu, I'm just reading the docs
[01:28] <prattmic> /date
[01:28] <ikonia> KrisWood: its drag and drop
[01:28] <Feengur> ikonia, the refresh rate is right in xorg, but the res keeps capping at 1024.768 and i'm still locked at 800.600
[01:28] <KrisWood> ikonia, I'm sorry I don't understand, drag it to where?
[01:28] <Feengur> i'm using the 9746 drivers
[01:28] <Feengur> you think maybe i should try an older version?
[01:28] <ikonia> Feengur: they are no the ones from the ubuntu repo
[01:28] <unperson> adaptr:  "mount" gives entries for /proc, /dev, /sys, and then it shows "/dev/md1 on /root".  /dev/md1 should be the RAID0 partition for my /home.
[01:29] <ikonia> KrisWood: drag it into the "themes" window when you open theme manager
[01:29] <Feengur> hmmm
[01:29] <unperson> adaptr:  And that's it.
[01:29] <Led-Hed> ikonia, ya,  I've been reading the docs and several howto's all day, and all its gotten me is more confused
[01:29] <uFranky> can't somebody help?
[01:29] <ikonia> Led-Hed: yes, there seems to be a few conflictin opinions
[01:29] <KrisWood> ikonia: ok I'll try that thanks
[01:29] <ikonia> uFranky: I missed your question
[01:29] <mattfletcher> any1 have any experiences of autoroute on wine/ubuntu? good or bad?
[01:29] <ikonia> mattfletcher: join #wine - you'll get good discussion
[01:30] <uFranky> ikonia: i am trying to get a dvb-t stream from my server to lan
[01:30] <mattfletcher> #wine exists?! cool!
[01:30] <KrisWood> How do I tell gnome to run at 1680 x 1050 resolution?
[01:30] <bluefox83> ok, i have a wierd issue, when i type eject into terminal on my girlfriend's computer after rebooting this is what i get
[01:30] <bluefox83> eject: tried to use `/dev/hdc' as device name but it is no block device
[01:30] <bluefox83> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[01:30] <CraZy675> Anyone know how to install php-pear on ubuntu?
[01:30] <ikonia> bluefox83: because you don't have a device file
[01:31] <bluefox83> ikonia, so how do i fix that?
[01:31] <ikonia> bluefox83: is the file actually there - I doubt it, but check
[01:31] <KrisWood> CraZy675: I think it comes installed by default, but you can apt-cache search php-pear
[01:31] <unperson> adaptr:  Sorry, I'm relatively familiar with a property running linux system, but I don't know too much about the boot process or the intermediate states it goes through.
[01:31] <ikonia> unperson: whats your question
[01:32] <uFranky> ikonia: you know something?
[01:32] <bluefox83> ikonia, nope...shouldn't rebooting have fixed that?
[01:32] <ikonia> uFranky: not really not done much with dvb
[01:32] <unperson> ikonia:  It's kinda involved.  Short story is that I'm trying to install Edgy with / on a software RAID0.  adaptr has been kindly helping me.
[01:32] <Enverex> Would "lsusb -v &> file" miss anything that "lsusb -v" would show?
[01:32] <ikonia> bluefox83: how many ide hard disks do you have
[01:32] <alterego> Can someone tell me if the ubuntu live cd has support for NTFS resizing?
[01:32] <ikonia> unperson: ok
[01:32] <uFranky> ikonia: hm ok thx anyways
[01:33] <bluefox83> ikonia, just one
[01:33] <uFranky> somebody else tried streaming dvb over lan?
[01:33] <ikonia> alterego: it does at install time
[01:33] <unperson> ikonia:  Currently, the first part of the install went ok, but when it rebooted, the system wouldn't boot.
[01:33] <ikonia> bluefox83: so you cdrom should be hdb
[01:33] <ikonia> ls -la /dev/hdb
[01:33] <alterego> ikonia, great thanks :)
[01:33] <ikonia> alterego: what what ??
[01:33] <bluefox83> ikonia, no hdb either
[01:33] <unperson> ikonia:  Or not fully.  It kicked me out to busybox with the message "/bin/sh: can't find tty..."
[01:33] <alterego> ikonia, you said it had NTFS resizing :P
[01:33] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I created the symlink just for kicks.  Now irrecord seems to be working.  Now I just need to figure out how to get lirc and setserial to load at boot time
[01:33] <ikonia> bluefox83: ls -la /dev/hda
[01:34] <ikonia> alterego: ah
[01:34] <Toran> ok, so I'm having some serious hard drive problems- I/O errors, switching fs to read-only mode, and such. So I'm trying to fix this drive, and i run fsck on it. Now when I mount it to get to the data all that on it, all that i see on it  is a lost+found directory with maybe 100 files, and maybe a few other things (not directories) in the top level. This drive had over 180gb of stuff on it. Is there any way to recover any of this stuff? Note that when I l
[01:34] <ikonia> Led-Hed: I'm surprised that worked
[01:34] <Led-Hed> ikonia,  me too honestly,  its never that simple.  =)
[01:34] <bluefox83> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 0 2007-01-21 19:26 /dev/hda
[01:35] <ikonia> bluefox83: so thats your hardisk
[01:35] <bluefox83> ikonia, uh, yeah...
[01:35] <ikonia> bluefox83: and you have no hdb
[01:35] <gunny01> hi all. just wondering how good hardware support is for ubuntu on the new mac mini
[01:35] <ikonia> gunny01: its "ok"
[01:35] <CraZy675> KrisWood: I think I have php-pear installed I'm just not sure what to do in the php.ini file
[01:36] <bluefox83> ikonia, correct
[01:36] <ikonia> bluefox83: so there are a few possabilities 1.) your ide cdrom is not working 2.) your cable is not working 3.) its master/slave issues 4.) you've done something to bork your config
[01:36] <gunny01> "okay" meaning? ;)
[01:37] <ikonia> gunny01: should work
[01:37] <gunny01> any idea bout'wireless support?
[01:37] <bluefox83> ikonia, i must have bumped something on the inside, i guess all i need to do is check everything inside
[01:37] <ikonia> gunny01: I have it running on a mac mini core single
[01:37] <Feengur> thanks for all your help iko :D
[01:37] <nighthawk02> hi, my name is nighthawk02 I'm so happy to be here
[01:37] <Feengur> you look busy :P
[01:37] <Feengur> laters
[01:37] <ikonia> bluefox83: never hurts as cdrom's are too well supported to be a problem, and your disk is being found so we know your ide chipset is working and supported
[01:38] <ikonia> nighthawk02: thats great
[01:38] <KrisWood> CraZy675: What exactly are you trying to do with php?\
[01:38] <uFranky> nighthawk02: you're welcome
[01:38] <alterego> "working" maybe "supported" ^_^
[01:38] <KrisWood> What IRC client are you all using? I'm using gaim right now and it's nice enough but there are some things I can't figure out, like it doesn't flash on the taskbar when I get new messages
[01:38] <edion> i cant get sudo install-keymap se-latin1 to work becouse it says i cant do install-keymap
[01:39] <doctor> Hi
[01:39] <CraZy675> KrisWood: I'm moving from a hosted server to my own server and I have some classes that require mail/mime.php
[01:39] <KrisWood> is there a better chat client for ubuntu that also does yahoo and msn?
[01:39] <ikonia> KrisWood: gaim
[01:39] <alterego> KrisWood, I find gaim is the best ^_^
[01:40] <KrisWood> CraZy675: is there any way you can take those files with you? I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with the php.ini
[01:40] <olympionex> I'm trying to make a custom ubuntu livecd.  I've figure out everything except for when I boot to my custom cd, something seems to have replaced some of the configuration files, particularly the /etc/passwd and some of the gdm configuration files.  For example, in the chroot environment, I changed the root password and disable automatic login, but when I boot from my resultant cds, those changes seem to have been overwitten.
[01:40] <KrisWood> Is there any way to make gaim flash on the taskbar when I get new messages?
[01:40] <CraZy675> KrisWood: no I don't have the files I just called them and they work, they are part of the pear package
[01:40] <ikonia> KrisWood: come on man - do some research
[01:40] <edion> i cant get sudo install-keymap se-latin1 to work becouse it says i cant do install-keymap
[01:40] <pooya>  is it possible to see what URL a "submit" bottom sends?
[01:40] <ikonia> KrisWood: stop looking for spoon feeding
[01:41] <ikonia> pooya: what has that got to do with ubuntu ?
[01:41] <KrisWood> ikonia: I looked through the menus and not seeing any option for it and am currently researching parallels so trying to get information from two sources at once about multiple issues heh
[01:41] <ikonia> KrisWood: you'll get people pretty annoyed if you waste their time with simple stuff like that
[01:41] <pooya> ikonia, firefox room is empty
[01:42] <ikonia> pooya: thats nothing to do with firefox
[01:42] <ikonia> pooya: and that still doesn't mean "talk in here"
[01:42] <warlock> Anyone know how to update to kernel 2.6.12-10 in ubuntu 5.10 breezy?
[01:42] <KrisWood> ikonia: My apologies, it was not my intent to annoy. It is not however simple to me
[01:42] <pooya> ikonia, I use ubuntu
[01:42] <ikonia> KrisWood: didn't annoy me
[01:42] <unperson> adaptr:  So, what do you make of that output from mount?
[01:42] <ikonia> pooya: so ? your question is nothing to do with it
[01:42] <KrisWood> I guess I'll come back after I finish some more research :)
[01:42] <pooya> ikonia, well I thought someone might know
[01:43] <pooya> ikonia, were is the place to ask then?
[01:43] <ikonia> pooya: somewhere like #webdev for example
[01:43] <eternalswd> anyone in here able to help a spanish speaker in the ##gnome channel?  #gnome-hispano is empty at the moment?  or at least maybe translate for him/her?
[01:43] <pooya> ikonia, OK, let's try that..
[01:43] <alterego> KrisWood, you'd probably do better asking in the gaim channel too ..
[01:43] <ikonia> KrisWood: specific questions or issue are better than "how do I "
[01:43] <warlock> got it :p
[01:43] <pooya> ikonia, thnx
[01:43] <pooya> ikonia, (so I got my answer) :)
[01:43] <warlock> Is there a way to check what file system I'm using for my ubuntu server?
[01:44] <ikonia> eternalswd: probably best to wait for the spanish channel to wake up
[01:44] <ikonia> warlock: mount
[01:44] <pooya> ikonia, no ones there
[01:44] <ikonia> pooya: so ?
[01:44] <ikonia> pooya: wiat
[01:44] <ikonia> wait
[01:44] <warlock> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:44] <warlock> this ikonia ?
[01:44] <ikonia> warlock: ext3
[01:44] <warlock> ok
[01:44] <warlock> whats the best file system to use for game servers?
[01:45] <ikonia> warlock: doesn't matter
[01:45] <warlock> ok
[01:45] <pooya> ikonia, it's late
[01:45] <warlock> phew :)
[01:45] <ikonia> pooya: so ?
[01:45] <pooya> ikonia, :)
[01:45] <ikonia> pooya: ?
[01:45] <eternalswd> ikonia, no, I mean it is totally empty, not just no one around :(
[01:46] <ikonia> eternalswd: is there a gnome-es channel ?
[01:46] <ikonia> eteran: may not exist
[01:47] <unperson> Anyone else got any insight?  I ran through the edgy install and setup / to be on a software RAID0.  When I rebooted, the system didn't boot properly and spit me out at a busybox prompt labeled initramfs with the message "/bin/sh: can't find tty...."  At this prompt I can mount /dev/md0 which looks right (i.e. contains the contents of the installed root file system).  What's stopping me system from booting properly and how do I fi
[01:47] <ikonia> unperson: whats your disk layout
[01:48] <unperson> ikonia:  I have two identical SATA drives, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  Each has 4 paritions.
[01:48] <ikonia> ok
[01:48] <ikonia> more detail please
[01:48] <unperson> ikonia:  working on it
[01:49] <KrisWood> Oh lame, parallels doesn't support direct3d, I guess I'm back to being stuck with linux after-all
[01:49] <Toran> 2/j #fsck
[01:49] <unperson> ikonia: /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 are swap.  /dev/sda2 is ext2 for /boot.  /dev/sda3 and /dev/sb3 are /dev/md0 with XFS for /.
[01:50] <ikonia> unperson: whats the 4th partition
[01:51] <unperson> ikonia: sorry, the last part should have said /dev/sdb3 not /dev/sd3
[01:51] <ikonia> I guessed that ;)
[01:51] <unperson> ikonia: So basically, each disk has 4 idential partitions for swap, /boot, /, and /home.
[01:51] <ikonia> ok
[01:51] <__james> im using PPPoE on speedtouch silver modem. how can i set to autoreconnect on disconnection?
[01:51] <ikonia> and they are all raid0
[01:52] <ikonia> or raid 1
[01:52] <unperson> The partition for /boot on /dev/sdb isn't being used for anything, because /boot isn't setup as a RAID.
[01:52] <ikonia> unperson: why isn't boot setup for raid ?
[01:52] <unperson> ikonia:  swap and /boot are normal.  / and /home are RAID0.
[01:52] <swx> PC ill not recover from hibernation, what should I do ?
[01:53] <ikonia> ughhh raid0
[01:53] <__james> how can i edit the menu on boot up.. like the one that will choose wich operating system to use
[01:53] <ikonia> ok
[01:53] <edion> anyone who ahve tried this with sucsess "sudo install-keymap Latin1"
[01:53] <ikonia> __james: edit /boor/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <__james> ikonia: ok thnx
[01:53] <unperson> ikonia:  I had /boot as a RAID1 at first, but grub couldn't seem to kernel, so I reinstalled with it as a normal partition.   I read that ubuntu doesn't like to have /boot be a RAID partition, and I'd guess it doesn't have much advantage anyway.
[01:53] <ikonia> unperson: just so I'm clear this is software raid - not hardware
[01:54] <ikonia> having /boot as a mirrored partition is critical
[01:54] <Okiesmokie> Does anyone know the address for the default apt-get repository?
[01:54] <ikonia> but as / is raid0 it really doesn't matter
[01:54] <ikonia> Okiesmokie: look in your sources.list
[01:54] <alexandre3m> Tem Brasileiro nesta sala
[01:54] <CorpseFeeder> need help with printing... everything sent from a computer on the network is ending up in the print queue as state = "stopped: job-stopped". What's up with that?
[01:54] <unperson> ikonia:  Yes, software raid, not hardware or "fakeRAID".
[01:54] <Okiesmokie> ikonia: I'm not on linux right now
[01:54] <ikonia> Okiesmokie: boot into linux
[01:54] <Okiesmokie> ikonia: >_>
[01:54] <ikonia> unperson: just checking
[01:54] <blade> any know how to change the usplash screen that can help me with a problem im having?
[01:55] <ImNotScrewedAnym> YAY
[01:55] <ikonia> unperson: what point does it drop you back into busybox
[01:55] <Okiesmokie> ikonia: You want me to boot into linux, write down the address, then boot back into windows so I can download things from the repository onto my flash drive, instead of just asking someone here what the URL is?
[01:55] <ImNotScrewedAnym> riotkittie, you on?
[01:55] <ikonia> Okiesmokie: everyones is different as its user/country specific - so yes, thats what I want you to do
[01:55] <alexandre3m> vc  barsileiro
[01:55] <edion> what is repository?
[01:56] <KrisWood> well, I guess my hopes of being able to switch to linux completely are dashed yet again, have a good day everyone, I'll try again in a few months
[01:56] <ikonia> ok, bye
[01:56] <KrisWood> thanks for all the help!
[01:56] <Textboo1> !FAQ | edion
[01:56] <ubotu> edion: faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:56] <unperson> ikonia:  Not quite sure how to answer.  After installing the system, the install disk asks for a reboot.  When it did this reboot, it spit me out into busybox.
[01:56] <gecko>  any1 know what this means   manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[01:56] <ImNotScrewedAnym> ikonia... you see any more ppl with ATI tv out problems... just use !tvout
[01:56] <ikonia> unperson: how far does it boot
[01:56] <ImNotScrewedAnym> its added in there now
[01:56] <ikonia> ImNotScrewedAnym: ok
[01:56] <ImNotScrewedAnym> I feel special
[01:56] <roho> gecko: just do it.  should fix things for you.  probably tried to install or remove something and there were problems
[01:56] <unperson> ikonia:  let me reboot again and watch closely.
[01:57] <blade> anyone know how to change the usplash screen?
[01:57] <ikonia> unperson: that would be appriciated
[01:57] <CorpseFeeder> The printer is connected to the linux machine, print job being sent from a Mac OSX machine on the network, all jobs from the Mac are turning up in the Linux machine's print queue as "Stopped" Why?
[01:57] <ImNotScrewedAnym> blade, splashy was a good alternative, but I'm not sure if it works anymore
[01:57] <Toran> ok, so I'm having some serious hard drive problems- I/O errors, switching fs to read-only mode, and such. So I'm trying to fix this drive, and i run fsck on it. Now when I mount it to get to the data all that on it, all that i see on it  is a lost+found directory with maybe 100 files, and maybe a few other things (not directories) in the top level. This drive had over 180gb of stuff on it. Is there any way to recover any of this stuff? Note that when I l
[01:58] <CorpseFeeder> Is it because the printer was turned on after the linux computer booted?
[01:58] <blade> ImNotScrewedAnym>>i was able to change it...sort of...but now all i get is a blank screen...
[01:58] <CorpseFeeder> should that even matter?
[01:58] <tecywiz121> I need somehelp setting up an ethernet card.  Its a realtec 8139, and I have tryed loading the 8139too module, but it gives an error :(  Any ideas?
[01:58] <ikonia> Toran: its moved into lost and found after a crash  - recover it
[01:58] <ikonia> tecywiz121: tell us the error
[01:58] <leal> WAVE: RIFF header not found
[01:58] <Toran> ikonia: Dude, there aren't that many files in lost+found, and my _entire_ directory structure is gone
[01:58] <leal> any tips??
[01:59] <gecko> roho: i dont get what it means lol
[01:59] <ImNotScrewedAnym> blade, you dapper or edgy?
[01:59] <blade> following the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28splash%29
[01:59] <blade> dapper
[01:59] <gecko> roho: dont get how or what to do..ive tried searching..all i got was french stuff
[01:59] <ikonia> Toran: looks like its been corrupted
[01:59] <roho> gecko: you need to type that command at a prompt
[01:59] <leal> hello all, i cant listen WAV files....
[01:59] <Toran> Yeah, so what can I do?
[01:59] <ImNotScrewedAnym> i got splashy to work with dapper... you may wanna check it out... its got tons of startups screens, highly customizeable
[01:59] <gecko> i did
[01:59] <unperson> ikonia:  At says "booting the kernel" then brings up the ubuntu title/logo graphic and that's it, then busybox appears.
[01:59] <gecko> i got this :
[01:59] <moniker42> how do i set it so .torrent files are opened by azureus?
[01:59] <gecko> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[01:59] <gecko> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[01:59] <gecko> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[01:59] <gecko> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[01:59] <gecko> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[01:59] <n2diy> tecywiz121: there are two modules available for that card, see if you can locate the other one. I forget which one I used to get it working.
[01:59] <gecko> Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[01:59] <ImNotScrewedAnym> I just haven't gotten it working since edgy
[01:59] <gecko> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[01:59] <gecko> gecko@gecko-laptop:~$
[02:00] <roho> you typed it wrong
[02:00] <roho> heh
[02:00] <blade> i downloaded the usplash screen i wanted..used the instructions on that page...and now all i have is a blank screen...
[02:00] <ImNotScrewedAnym> !pastebin |gecko
[02:00] <ubotu> gecko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <gecko> oh
[02:00] <moniker42> how do i set it so .torrent files are opened by azureus?
[02:00] <tecywiz121> ikonia, probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error code -16
[02:00] <leal> moniker42: in download dialog.
[02:00] <ikonia> unperson: ok - so lets look at this - it finds the kernel and the menu.list from the /boot partition. check the grub options in the menu.list file
[02:00] <CorpseFeeder> i'm using the Pixus-ip3100 driver with a Canon Pixma ip3000 as has been suggested in the forums... is there some problem with this driver which prevents it being used on a LAN with Macs?
[02:00] <gecko> ugh.. im always gettin yelled at for sumthing... pasting too much... flooding..cussing .lol
[02:00] <roho> gecko: you didn't put ' before and after the command line, did you?
[02:00] <leal> moniker42: if you use firefox...
[02:00] <psykidellic> hello....since my NIC card drivers are not getting recognised...somebody suggested me to compile the linux kernel...in the second step when I do make menuconfig...it throws up an error: KEY_LEFT, KEY_RIGHT undeclared...doing a less err.txt shows that curses.h is not available.....so which package needs to be installed?
[02:00] <tecywiz121> n2diy, the other driver doesn't work, it tells me to use the 8139too driver
[02:01] <gecko> i dont think so?
[02:01] <roho> hm
[02:01] <gecko> i put  sudo dpkg --configure -
[02:01] <roho> -a
[02:01] <gecko> oh
[02:01] <leal> any tips to fix the probem: WAVE: RIFF header not found??
[02:01] <roho> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:01] <Roy> adaptr. That did not work. I got the following message :- Cannot stat :  No such file or directory
[02:01] <unperson> ikonia:  Ok.  I'll mount /boot and look.
[02:02] <two|face> hey does ubuntu come with a preconfigured firewall
[02:02] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone here know anything about fixing printer problems?
[02:02] <gecko> roho: it jus shows me the blank
[02:02] <gecko> it acts as if i hit enter...with no code
[02:02] <roho> hm
[02:02] <tecywiz121> anyone?
[02:02] <roho> so what were you doing to get the error?
[02:02] <CorpseFeeder> no one?
[02:02] <n2diy> tecywiz121: ok, I just checked with my buddy and it was the 8139too module we got to work. That is on a RH box though.
[02:03] <CorpseFeeder> I will return later
[02:03] <tecywiz121> n2diy, yep, that's the one I loaded, but it gives an error
[02:03] <Roy> adaptr. I also tried to complete the instructions finishing the driver update, and that gave me a backup message which I recorded, but it would not reboot into X
[02:03] <JohnP789> Where is the squashfs filesystem mounted when the Edgy live CD is running?  "mount" doesn't show anything.
[02:04] <eegore> I have a device installed for a joystick but when I try to test it, I get a segmentation error
[02:04] <Quarupt> When trying to use an embedded flash movie player (like youtube) my browser tries to download the swf file instead of displaying it?
[02:04] <Quarupt> Can anyone help?
[02:04] <gecko> roho: i got it
[02:05] <gecko> :)
[02:05] <n2diy> tecywiz121: well, maybe you can google for that error code, and get a clue as to what is wrong?
[02:05] <olympionex> where are the ubuntu startup scripts that dynamically create things like xorg.conf when the computer boots up?  I think this is overwriting my custom /etc/passwd and other files on my custom cd.
[02:05] <Quarupt> :(
[02:05] <tecywiz121> n2diy, I have, no luck at all
[02:05] <Roy> adaptr. Are you there ?
[02:05] <dfwlinuxguy> this isn't suse
[02:05] <unperson> ikonia:  Ok, I've got menu.lst up.  I'm not precisely sure what to look for, though.
[02:05] <eegore> It looks like it is not probing the stick properly
[02:05] <roho> gecko: ok man.  sorry if i was confusing
[02:05] <n2diy> tecywiz121: :/, you don't have an on board nic, that might be conflicting with it?
[02:06] <eegore> Driver version is 0.8.0. Joystick (Unknown) has 2 axes (X, X) Segmentation fault
[02:06] <tecywiz121> n2diy, nope, its the only one.  google suggested that I move the nic if it has an IRQ conflict, and I did, but it still doesn't work
[02:08] <Roy> Can anyone help. I am a newbie. I am locked out of my HD X and only here on the CD. I was updating the nvidia graphics drivers and on the reboot am locked out.
[02:08] <n2diy> tecywiz121: Ok, good luck, I have to run. Later I'll see if I can find the notes I took when I helped my buddy set his up, maybe I can help you later, take care.
[02:08] <tecywiz121> n2diy, Thanks :D
[02:09] <eegore> dang it hung up xserver
[02:09] <Xenguy> Roy: It may be that you don't have the 'restricted' package that goes along with your kernel version...
[02:09] <unperson> ikonia:  I do see, for example, "kopt_2_6=root=/dev/md1 ro", and that is mounted.  So that's the really weird thing is that it seems to be able to access the RAID disks.
[02:09] <Xenguy> Roy: did you just update a kernel?
[02:09] <Quarupt> When trying to use an embedded flash movie player (like youtube) my browser tries to download the swf file instead of displaying it?
[02:10] <Roy> Xenguy. I followed the instructions to the letter, (I think) and when it rebooted it would not go back into X
[02:10] <_dd02_> I'm kinda having trouble with my gfx drivers... everything else has been really smooth from Xp -> Ubuntu
[02:10] <bigperm> hey guys
[02:10] <bigperm> I gotta question
[02:10] <Roy> Xenguy. BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia instructions
[02:10] <Xenguy> Roy: it bit me a few times too, and may or may not be the same problem...
[02:10] <bigperm> I just installed ubuntu, and it went great, but my screen is a little bigger than my monito
[02:11] <bigperm> like, there is more off to the left and right than I can see
[02:11] <Xenguy> Roy: basically what I did was find the kernel version I'm running (uname -r) ...
[02:11] <Roy> Xenguy. What I need to know is how to get back to the default drivers and get X back up. I am a wiz with Windows but this is beyond me at the moment.
[02:11] <Quarupt> can somome please help me?
[02:12] <Xenguy> Roy: then make sure I had the same version of the 'restricted' package (dpkg -l *restricted*)
[02:12] <ImNotScrewedAnym> bigperm... adjust the buttons on the front of the monitor
[02:12] <bigperm> my monitor is already maxed out left and right
[02:12] <Xenguy> Roy: you have a prompt, yes?  do: uname -r
[02:12] <Xenguy> Roy: what is the output?
[02:12] <Roy> Xenguy. You will have to speak in very simple terms to me. This is all new.
[02:12] <Xenguy> Roy: ok
[02:12] <ImNotScrewedAnym> if theres more than you can see, maybe it is too maxed out
[02:13] <Roy> Xenguy. Yes I can get a prompt when I boot from the HD
[02:13] <bigperm> wait, never mind that fixed it
[02:13] <bigperm> thanks
[02:13] <_dd02_> I'm running Dapper 64.. and trying to get my x1900 card to be eh recognized/used
[02:13] <Xenguy> Roy: you need to get to a prompt then (can you stay on IRC as well?)
[02:14] <Quarupt> ImNotScrewedAnym, hey can you help me with my prob ?
[02:14] <Roy> Xenguy. Can I get the prompt from here when I am booted from the CD ?
[02:15] <jimmie> why is the sound so bad when the volume is max in music in xmms?
[02:15] <Xenguy> Roy: I think you want the same 'environment' where the problem is occuring
[02:15] <robertj_> ok, dumb question, what happens if you press ctl+alt+delete from within a gnome-session?
[02:15] <Jaymottz22> why does appache need to resolve a local vhosts?
[02:15] <robertj_> (if the behavior is as it was last time I tried it a few years ago I don't think I want to try it right now ;)
[02:15] <Xenguy> Roy: what is the URL for that web page you were following BTW?
[02:15] <Roy> Xenguy. If I do that, then I do not have IRC.
[02:16] <Roy> Xenguy. When I boot from the HD. all I have is the prompt.
[02:16] <robertj_> anyone feeling adventurous ;)
[02:16] <Okiesmokie> What does the number after ubuntu in the filenames from archive.ubuntu.org mean? ie: cpp-3.4_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_i386.deb
[02:16] <Okiesmokie> +?
[02:16] <Xenguy> Roy: that's one good reason to always have an terminal irc client like irssi within reach ;-)
[02:17] <Okiesmokie> archive.ubuntu.com, rather
[02:17] <Xenguy> Roy: you don't need X to do IRC if you use irssi or something similar - anyway...
[02:17] <Roy> Xenguy. You could be right. But I am an idiot at the moment :-)
[02:17] <Xenguy> Roy: what is the URL for that web page you were following BTW?
[02:17] <Xenguy> Roy: no worries
[02:17] <vivabenfica> hello all
[02:17] <HLM> !flash
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <CorpseFeeder> ok, clearly this printer driver is hopeless, Does anyone else here have experience with using a Canon Pixma ip3000 printer in Ubuntu?
[02:18] <Xenguy> !nvidia
[02:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <CorpseFeeder> I need a working printer driver for Canon printer ip3000 - does such a thing exist?
[02:18] <Quarupt> Xenguy if you try to watch something like youtube something with a flash player can you do it?
[02:18] <SniZ> hi, can anybody suggest me a pretty and flexible crossover IRC client for nix and win?
[02:19] <Roy> Xenguy. https?//help.ubuntu.com/community/binaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:19] <psykidellic> Sniz: x chat
[02:19] <_dd02_> ooh that could help me
[02:19] <SniZ> psykidellic> i know, but i cant compile in windows :(
[02:19] <vivabenfica> i am trying to resurrect a pentium 3, 64MB ram sony vaio laptop (pcg-fx120) and install ubuntu. xubuntu seemed better because of xfce, but the install hangs. any clever options i can pass on to boot command for a lowram machine like this?
[02:19] <Xenguy> Roy: yep, I'm just looking at the page now - tx
[02:20] <psykidellic> Sniz: why you want to compile? my frnd uses the binary and it works....
[02:20] <gu014> is anyone using twinview?
[02:20] <SniZ> hi, can anybody suggest me a pretty and flexible crossover IRC client for nix and win (please xchat dont suggest)?
[02:20] <Textboo1> GAIM
[02:20] <Quarupt> eww Gaim is horrible
[02:20] <Quarupt> for IRC
[02:20] <Quarupt> whats wrong with XCHAT?
[02:20] <Roy> Xenguy. I got to item 10 and when it rebooted that is when I was trashed.
[02:20] <BULLE> Quarupt: irssi!
[02:20] <SniZ> i know, but i cant compile xchat in windows :(
[02:20] <arrenlex> Quarupt: Why is gaim horrible for IRC?
[02:21] <brettr> hey, quick question for anyone that might know. Azureus recently stopped working, it would die right after being started. So what i did was dl the .jar file for version 2.5 and i put it in /usr/share/java
[02:21] <_dd02_> when I run the command lspci in the terminal, the display controller says "ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7269" is that a good or bad thing? or will that change if I install the neccessary drivers?
[02:21] <CorpseFeeder> Has anyone here tried using the bjc 7000 driver with this Canon ip3000 printer? What limitations does this driver create?
[02:21] <SniZ> psykidellic> for xchat for win i must pay
[02:21] <Quarupt> arrenlex, uhh lack of scriptablity, featureless, shall I go on..?
[02:21] <blazefx> Hello all.
[02:21] <buchanp> hey guys i installed ubuntu and now my windows xp partition wont boot it says "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[02:21] <brettr> Is there anything wrong with fixing it this way?
[02:22] <blazefx> buchanp You need to repartition
[02:22] <arrenlex> _dd02_: That's a bad thing. What kernel?
[02:22] <blazefx> you give the windows xp the wrong lable
[02:22] <buchanp> how do i do this?
[02:22] <Xenguy> Roy: It just occurred to me that one way to get X back while you fix your nvidia drivers is to use the 'vesa' driver for the short-term...
[02:22] <psykidellic> Sniz: then i dont know...coz i have never compiled....i always run away from compiling linux based on windows.....didnt know that X chat was not free after 30 days :) i always used mirc on windows...sorry couldnt be of much help here!
[02:22] <buchanp> ive tried manually editing the grub config and its still not launching correctly
[02:23] <marian> Hi, can anybody suggest me what is the reason to receave message "greater aplication crashed" when system is starting before logging in gnome???
[02:23] <blazefx> buchanp remember when you were partitioning, and you had to give all of the different partitions lables? Ie swap or /? oR did you automatically partition
[02:23] <Roy> Xenguy. How do I do that ?
[02:23] <_dd02_> @arrenlex eh? kernel? what do you mean >_< ubuntu 6.06
[02:23] <wheels3572> can someone help me with an issue im having look at this paste pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2502/
[02:23] <blazefx> You are probably going to have to go through th e installer and repartition
[02:23] <SniZ> :(
[02:23] <buchanp> i did it manually with fdisk while the drives werent installed only my linux drive was
[02:23] <arrenlex> _dd02_: What does "uname -r" say?
[02:23] <Xenguy> Roy: If you can use the generic 'vesa' driver, then you will have X (albeit at a lower resolution) and then you can work on your nvidia problem from X
[02:23] <arrenlex> !kernel | _dd02_
[02:23] <ubotu> _dd02_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:23] <Roy> Xenguy. Tell me how :-)
[02:24] <_dd02_> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[02:24] <buchanp> can i just rerun parted?
[02:24] <Xenguy> Roy: you just need to edit one file to try it out (and back up the original file first of course :-)
[02:24] <Quarupt> I cant access this sites videos cause firefox downloads the player instead of displaying it!! http://tv.peekvid.com/s3048/
[02:24] <Xenguy> Roy: OK, I'll check the file first, one sec...
[02:24] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Hmm... you could try seeing if a newer kernel detects your card.
[02:24] <Roy> Xenguy. Remember I am an idiot. Give me very precise instructions :-)
[02:24] <Xenguy> !vesa
[02:24] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[02:24] <Xenguy> !x
[02:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:24] <buchanp> my grub file used to boot windows xp until i installed the additional drives
[02:25] <vivabenfica> hi. anyone knows how/if i can get xubuntu installed on a pentium 3, 64mb ram laptop?
[02:25] <_dd02_> where could I get an updated kernel (n00b question)
[02:25] <buchanp> apt-get
[02:25] <arrenlex> Quarupt: But it's in flash.
[02:25] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there an Ubuntu edgy package of the latest GAIM beta?
[02:25] <Quarupt> arrenlex, yea its a flash player
[02:25] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Are you running dapper? You might need to upgrade to Edgy for that. Dapper isn't getting any new package versions anymore.
[02:25] <arrenlex> Quarupt: So get flash. o_O
[02:25] <Quarupt> arrenlex, that embeds into your browser
[02:26] <Quarupt> arrenlex, I have flash
[02:26] <arrenlex> Quarupt: Does homestarrunner.com play?
[02:26] <vivabenfica> anyone know if/how i can get xubuntu on a p3, 64mb ram laptop?
[02:26] <Xenguy> Roy: sec, still checking...
[02:26] <redcard> Okay, I have a package that refuses to be removed.  It errors out no matter what.
[02:26] <redcard> How do I remove a package by force?
[02:26] <Roy> Xenguy. Not going anywhere :-)
[02:26] <Davo_Dinkum> redcard: -f
[02:26] <arrenlex> redcard: pastebin everything from the command you run to the last error message, please.
[02:26] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to find one's key id? for a gpg key?
[02:26] <kortec> how do i install man pages on my box? i apt-get installed manpages, but i still can't man things like fread or stdio.h
[02:26] <_dd02_> Okay, thanks for your help arrenlex, I am running Dapper at the moment, and the video card i'm trying to get to work is an ATI Radeon X1900XT which isn't going over too well lol
[02:26] <thenetduck> I am trying to send one for launchpad
[02:26] <wheels3572> can somneone help me with fdisk please
[02:27] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: -f fixes missing dependencies, doesn't it?
[02:27] <_dd02_> I'm sorta thinking that I'm running 64bit also complicates things a bit
[02:27] <thenetduck> wheels3572, what do you need help with?
[02:27] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Yeah, that looks like a very new card, doesn't it?
[02:27] <dope> if i have a bunch of old laptops siting around can i put ubuntu on them and sell them to the public?
[02:27] <wheels3572> thenetduck, read this paste    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2502/
[02:27] <arrenlex> _dd02_: While in general I don't recommend running a 64-bit system, it shouldn't interfere with your card.
[02:27] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: No it just forces it to do what you told it to do, regardless of how stupid or hard it may be.
[02:28] <Davo_Dinkum> dope: I don't see why not.
[02:28] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Are we talking about apt or dpkg?
[02:28] <Davo_Dinkum> apt
[02:28] <Davo_Dinkum> dpkg is debian, isn't it?
[02:28] <arrenlex> -f, --fix-broken
[02:28] <arrenlex>           Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place.
[02:28] <dope> like legally.  i don't have to worry about license issues?
[02:28] <Davo_Dinkum> dope: No.
[02:28] <dope> sweet
[02:28] <kortec> Davo_Dinkum so is Ubuntu =)
[02:29] <redcard> arrenlexarrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2503/
[02:29] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: dpkg is the program that installs, removes, unpacks, builds packages. apt fetches them and manages dependencies.
[02:29] <redcard> Ack.
[02:29] <wheels3572> thenetduck, there are what looks like errors in that paste.  is that ok to proceed
[02:29] <redcard> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2503/
[02:29] <Davo_Dinkum> arrenlex: apt is more the interface for dpkg then?
[02:29] <thenetduck> wheels3572, well what are you trying to do?
[02:29] <buchanp> can someone look at my fdisk and grub configs my windows xp partition wont boot http://pastebin.com/864631
[02:29] <vivabenfica> help with xubuntu install on lowram (64mb) machine??? please?
[02:29] <_dd02_> arrenliex: do you think that given the advantages to a 64-bit system, is it harder to setup and upkeep and whatnot? Does its disadvantages outweigh the advantages?
[02:29] <arrenlex> Davo_Dinkum: Essentially.
[02:29] <Feengur> back again :P
[02:29] <morpheus74> Do most people just install the Software updates without reading what each update does?
[02:29] <thenetduck> wheels3572, and what file extentions did you want cause I normally use an ext3
[02:30] <Feengur> i checked the xorg log and it's saying it can't detect the proper modes
[02:30] <unperson> Ok, well, thanks to adaptr and ikonia for the help.  I guess I'll have to take this up in the forums.
[02:30] <Feengur> it's giving me a virtual mode and locking it
[02:30] <runlevel> hi
[02:30] <Feengur> any resources?
[02:30] <arrenlex> _dd02_: For desktop use, you will not notice any performance difference in a 64-bit system. However, you will have compatibility problems with things like Flash, Wine, and media codecs that are only available 32-bit.
[02:30] <Roy> Xenguy. Still here :-)
[02:30] <wheels3572> thenetduck, let me show you this
[02:31] <arrenlex> _dd02_: What happens if you try "apt-get install wpasupplicant"?
[02:31] <Roy> Xenguy. Still here :-)
[02:31] <Xenguy> hi
[02:32] <Roy> Hi
[02:32] <Feengur> hi
[02:32] <Xenguy> Roy: problem with my net connection...
[02:32] <Xenguy> Roy: OK so here is what you can do...
[02:32] <_dd02_> arrenlex: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:32] <Roy> Xenguy. GO
[02:32] <Xenguy> roy: at the command-line/prompt...
[02:32] <Roy> Yep
[02:32] <smartman> hi guys
[02:32] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Are you using sudo? Do you have another instance of dpkg\apt\synaptic open?
[02:32] <Xenguy> Roy: (sudo in front of all these commands - you need to be 'root'/superuser)
[02:33] <smartman> i have problim with sound
[02:33] <Xenguy> Roy: cd /etc/X11
[02:33] <redcard> arrenlex: So, any idea how to completely remove anything having to do with that package in apt-get's routine?
[02:33] <wheels3572> thenetduck,    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2505/
[02:33] <smartman> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[02:33] <Xenguy> Roy: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.1st
[02:33] <jimmie> where do i write all the codes?
[02:33] <Xenguy> Roy: nano xorg.conf  (use whatever editor works for you)
[02:33] <runlevel> can anyone recommend a good place to get info on the latest security issues with ubuntu/linux so i can keep up on them?
[02:33] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Also, what are you installing?
[02:33] <runlevel> :-/
[02:33] <FiZZinK> #wop
[02:33] <FiZZinK> #wop
[02:33] <Judicata> smartman: what are you trying to play?
[02:33] <smartman> mp3
[02:33] <Judicata> !mp3 | smartman
[02:33] <ubotu> smartman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:34] <Xenguy> Roy: go to the line in the file that says:  Section "Device"
[02:34] <arrenlex> redcard: What happens if you try "apt-get install wpasupplicant"?
[02:34] <_dd02_> arrenlex: eh not that I know of
[02:34] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Whoa, sorry, wpasupplicant was not for you.
[02:34] <Roy> With you so far
[02:34] <Xenguy> Roy: change the driver from:   Driver    "nvidia"
[02:34] <_dd02_> arrenlex: XD oh no problem
[02:34] <redcard> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2504/  I put both the remove and install there
[02:34] <thenetduck> wheels3572, so you are trying to access your windows files?
[02:34] <Xenguy> Roy: to:  Driver    "vesa"
[02:34] <wheels3572> yes
[02:34] <wheels3572> thenetduck, yes
[02:34] <wheels3572> and that first pastebin
[02:34] <wheels3572> showed some error entries
[02:34] <Feengur> i just installed nvidia drivers for 7600gt.  the xorg0.log says it cannot validate any of the modelines and it sets a virtual modline.  Any suggestions for how to fix this?
[02:35] <arrenlex> redcard: Wow. That sucks.
[02:35] <Xenguy> Roy: then save the file, and exit the file
[02:35] <wheels3572> is that ok
[02:35] <redcard> arrenlex: Yeah. :)
[02:35] <linux_user400354> why are they bluetooth and floppy modules loaded? i dont have them in /etc/modules and i didnt load them manually. i do not have a floppy drive in my machine nor do i have bluetooth anything.
[02:35] <redcard> I've been using debian from day one.  I've never seen anything that hosed
[02:35] <Roy> Xenguy. At the command prompt, how can I choose and editor ?
[02:35] <Xenguy> Roy: then you need to restart gdm/X so, do:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:35] <jimmie> where do i type in the codes?
[02:35] <thenetduck> wheels3572, ok, quick question, are you trying to mount them so you can go back and edit/write to that hard drive? Or do you just need to get information then reformat
[02:35] <arrenlex> redcard: What happens if you run "dpkg --purge  /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.5.7+3v1ubuntu4_i386.deb"?
[02:36] <Feengur> anyone?
[02:36] <Xenguy> Roy: re editor: 'nano' is a simple editor; or you can use 'vi' if you know that
[02:36] <wheels3572> mount yes :)
[02:36] <arrenlex> _dd02_: Again, you could try installing a newer kernel from edgy. That might detect your card.
[02:36] <wheels3572> so I can edit/write to the drive :)
[02:36] <redcard> arrenlex: I get that "package is in an inconsistant state"
[02:37] <Xenguy> Roy: I expect that 'nano' is installed by default, but not totally sure
[02:37] <Xenguy> Roy: (again, best to get a command-line editor for when X fails ;-)
[02:37] <_dd02_> arrenlex: Thanks for your help - That is exactly what I am doing at this moment. If things don't work out I'll probably be back, but let's hope for the better :)
[02:37] <thenetduck> wheels3572, I have done this before, but let me give you the guide I used it's very nice and worked great for me (it even has pictures)
[02:37] <sally> hi. looking for xubuntu install help
[02:37] <Roy> Xenguy. I don't know either. Isn't an over the top install possible, that will reset back to vesa but keep all other settings like you can on Windows ?
[02:37] <wheels3572> thenetduck, ty :)
[02:37] <jimmie> where do i run the command lines?
[02:37] <kortec> how do i install man pages on my box? i apt-get installed manpages, but i still can't man things like fread or stdio.h
[02:37] <arrenlex> redcard: Where exactly did you get 0.5.7+3v1ubuntu4? Edgy has 0.5.4-5 and feisty has 0.5.5-4.
[02:38] <Feengur> cntrl+alt+f1
[02:38] <bradley_> i have downloaded new theme controls (window scroll bars etc) but they don't load.  i know that the fix is a really small command line thing but i can't find what it is. does any one know?
[02:38] <wheels3572> thenetduck, can i pm you for asecond please
[02:38] <morpheus74> When installing updates, who actually reads what the updates do?  Is it bad to just say, "install all"?
[02:38] <thenetduck> wheels3572, ya
[02:38] <redcard> arrenlex: Likely through automatix
[02:38] <Feengur> does automatix work well?
[02:38] <Xenguy> Roy: looks like 'nano' is installed by default - use that, it is easy enough
[02:38] <Roy> Xenguy. I will obviously try what you have suggested, but I am not confident.
[02:38] <redcard> Feengur: typically.
[02:38] <redcard> Feengur: But.. there are atypical situations.  I've found one :P
[02:38] <buchanp> hey guys i installed a new hard drive and now my windows xp partition wont boot
[02:39] <Xenguy> Roy: this is a pretty trivial test.  You are just backing up a file, then editing it to change 1 line
[02:39] <Roy> How to you invoke Nano at the command prompt ?
[02:39] <Feengur> i've tried envy, and the install from binaries
[02:39] <Feengur> i still can't get correct modelines
[02:39] <Feengur> just not picking them up
[02:39] <Roy> OK I will certainly give it a go.
[02:39] <sally> no takers on xubuntu install help? am i in the worng place or is everyone busy?
[02:39] <Xenguy> Roy: just type this:  nano filenametoedit
[02:39] <dutch> Roy,  sudo nano
[02:39] <buchanp> windows xp used to be at hd0,0 now its hd2,0 i made the changes in menu.lst but its freezing on boot now
[02:39] <Roy> OK
[02:39] <olympionex> does anybody understand how the unionfs system works on edgy?
[02:39] <Xenguy> Roy: prepend sudo to all the commands above I gave you
[02:39] <DARKGuy> Xenguy: What was your problem oo?
[02:40] <samalex> hey guys.  just curious, none of the GL screensavers seem to work, but they should be working fine with my video card, which is a Matrox G400 dualhead card (16 MEgs/Ram), and in the past this has been more then enough for GL screensavers to work.  any suggestions?
[02:40] <Roy> Thanks guys. I hope to be back with good news later :-)
[02:40] <dutch> Roy, otherwise   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:40] <samalex> It appears that xorg.conf has the proper settings for my video card...
[02:40] <Xenguy> DARKGuy: hmm?
[02:40] <redcard> Oh well..  I'll figure it out
[02:40] <wheels3572> thenetduck, did you get the pm?
[02:40] <DARKGuy> Xenguy: Oh wait, I misread, sorry xD
[02:41] <Xenguy> DARKGuy: no worries :-)
[02:41] <thenetduck> wheels3572, yes?
[02:41] <wheels3572> thenetduck, did you get the pm
[02:41] <samalex> actually when I try to test a GL screensaver, the display properties locks up, and I have to restart X to get them to come up again (by right-clicking on desktop).  This is in KDE btw
[02:41] <buchanp_> hey guys i installed a new hard drive today and now my windows xp partition wont boot
[02:41] <buchanp_> grub is spitting out filesystem type unknown , partition type 0x7
[02:42] <Xenguy> Roy: BTW your settings won't be affected, if you are concerned about that
[02:42] <Xenguy> Roy: good luck
[02:42] <lskd-255> a peculiar item in my Screen Resolution thingy under System/Preferences;  the selection of resolutions are in a strange order_  it starts with 1600xblahblah and then 1400xblahblah and then 1200x---- then 1600x----- and then 1300x---- several others in a descending order and it gets down to 800x600 and 640x480  and the last one at the bottom is 1600x1400.   Weird, huh?
[02:43] <sally> xubuntu install??
[02:43] <DARKGuy> sally: what's the problem?
[02:43] <diane> anyone here wna help me with a bootsplash prolem
[02:43] <someothernick> buchanp_, did you format the drive?
[02:43] <lskd-255> diane, what's the trouble?
[02:43] <buchanp_> someothernick,  no my windows xp partition worked fine and booted from grub up until i added a new hard drive
[02:44] <brianski> hmm, gdm on edgy doesn't seem to want to run my .xinitrc -- anyone know how i can fix?
[02:44] <humblerodent> Anybody know why my system would inevitably crash completely (cold reboot required) during any apt-get or dpkg processes?
[02:44] <lskd-255> I have an ear if you wanna share your grief
[02:44] <diane> I cant get it to work, usplash shows nothing I just get white text, blackbackground
[02:44] <buchanp_> someothernick, then all of a suddenall the drive maps changed and my windows xp went from hd0,0 to hd2,0
[02:44] <bradley_> how would i get downloaded theme controls to install?
[02:44] <buchanp_> someothernick, i made the changes in grubs menu.lst and now its bootingto that error and hangs
[02:44] <bradley_> they show up in my theme manager but they don't work.
[02:44] <brianski> humblerodent, sounds like a problem with the NIC/wifi driver?
[02:44] <someothernick> buchanp_, you have the drive set as slave?
[02:44] <humblerodent> brianski: are you serious?
[02:45] <buchanp_> someothernick, yes the drives are cofnigurated correctly i can mount them and read/write to them in ubuntu
[02:45] <samalex> hmm, in the past I've downloaded the Matrox drivers for linux, but they appear to only work on XFree86 and not Xorg.  dangit.
[02:45] <phaidros> my bootsplash is gone in edgy. what to do?
[02:45] <samalex> does any modern distro still use Xfree86?
[02:45] <phaidros> samalex, no
[02:45] <buchanp_> samalex, no
[02:45] <brianski> humblerodent, just a guess. but i see you said it happens with dpkg too, so then i dunno] 
[02:45] <samalex> phaidros, didn't think so.
[02:45] <diane> see I have the same bootsplash problems
[02:45] <nny> this is strange.. firefox loads and then disappears.. no error (even with debug-mode) erased .mozilla from user dir.. any advice?
[02:45] <lskd-255> did ya try: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:45] <kortec> how do i install man pages on my box? i apt-get installed manpages, but i still can't man things like fread or stdio.h
[02:46] <DARKGuy> nny: try running "firefox" from the terminal?
[02:46] <humblerodent> brianski: well, maybe not dpkg....maybe only apt-get.  definitely apt-get though.  but other network operations work perfectly, and I had crashes when trying to install the system too.
[02:46] <nny> DARKGuy, yeah no error, just disappears
[02:46] <phaidros> diane, lol :) what happened? upgrade to edgy and graphical bootmessages are gone?
[02:46] <DARKGuy> nny: crazy :/
[02:46] <brianski> humblerodent, that's weird
[02:46] <wheels3572> thenetduck, did you find that guide?
[02:46] <DARKGuy> nny: I'm clueless - sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox ?
[02:46] <buchanp_> heres a pastebin of my current config http://pastebin.com/864631  the error message im getting from windows xp is filesystem type unknown, paritition type 0x7
[02:47] <phaidros> nny, re-login to X ?
[02:47] <diane> I am actually using mepis. I usually use splashy but it borks on my lappy and wont load, so I am trying usplash, from the feisty repos
[02:47] <nny> phaidros, rebooted numerous times
[02:47] <thenetduck> wheels3572, ya I sent it to you in our pm
[02:47] <thenetduck> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[02:47] <humblerodent> brianski: I did just install a wifi card recently (and I had hardware problems with it from the start that I had to fix), so I actually /have/ been suspicious of that.  but I don't know why it would only cause a problem with software installation.  I'm still wondering what motivated you to suggest the NIC.
[02:47] <wheels3572> thenetduck, I never got the PM lol.  must be because your not added to my buddy list?
[02:47] <shutterbc> Ugh... I'm tired of my alsa not working.  Flashplugin 7 uses OSS, but the new version 9 is apparently alsa only
[02:47] <smartman> hey guys i was dowqnloading media player codecs and realplayer
[02:48] <smartman> that
[02:48] <smartman> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:48] <nny> dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work either :\
[02:48] <smartman> what i have to do
[02:48] <phaidros> diane, I'm clueless with these spash thingies, have that problem since weeks .. but: i managed xen & vserver today :)
[02:48] <smartman> ican't setup any programe
[02:48] <brianski> humblerodent, i've had problemsw with wifi drivers
[02:48] <toM|vendettA> hi, my sound was working fine and then my desktop froze, and so i restarted x-server and then I restarted my computer, and now its saying there is no sound card detected, how can I fix this?
[02:48] <phaidros> nny, apt-get remove firefox --purge and install again ;)
[02:48] <brianski> weird unexpicable problems
[02:48] <diane> I usually use suse, but stupid me had to put mepis on my flippin lappy. I have updated the usplash so imma reboot and check it out
[02:48] <phaidros> brianski, what card?
[02:48] <diane> spotcha soon
[02:48] <wheels3572> thenetduck, ty :)
[02:49] <humblerodent> brianski: know how to fix them?
[02:49] <brianski> humblerodent, get a system with a better supported card?
[02:49] <Gambit> Is anyone available to offer help recompiling a kernel?
[02:49] <psykidellic> Gambit: #linux is the right room :)
[02:49] <brianski> phaidros, don't remember, the machine was just a loaner windows machine which i threw ubuntu on
[02:49] <linux_user400354> why are they bluetooth and floppy modules loaded? i dont have them in /etc/modules and i didnt load them manually. i do not have a floppy drive in my machine nor do i have bluetooth anything.
[02:49] <Gambit> ok thx
[02:49] <OzoneCo> configuration.php is where?
[02:50] <smartman> hey guys thir is no one can help me
[02:50] <smartman> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:50] <phaidros> linux_user400354, thats the diadvantage of modern linux distros:) full of everything, lol
[02:50] <nny> phaidros, nothing works
[02:50] <nny> phaidros, evenr purged firefox
[02:50] <linux_user400354> phaidros: im asking how the modules are getting loaded
[02:50] <humblerodent> brianski: I'm on my dad's network and he requires things to be a specific way.  =P
[02:50] <phaidros> nny, hm, other windows open in X ?
[02:51] <phaidros> linux_user400354, ;)
[02:51] <OzoneCo> wheres the php config file?
[02:51] <elpargo> hi, could someone tell me if there is an easy way to totally replace totem with vlc or mplayer
[02:51] <phaidros> OzoneCo, # locate php | grep conf
[02:51] <rustlerharv> linux_user400354: my comp loads pcmcia and its a desktop
[02:51] <nny> phaidros, no doesnt appear so
[02:51] <phaidros> lol @ rustlerharv
[02:52] <Tox> hi.how to multiply change permission and user, i mena directory where inside are more directories and files ?
[02:52] <psykidellic> hello....i have been trying to get my old 3com vortex card recognised by ubuntu but I have failed in last 2 days....somebody suggested to compile from source but I think thats also not possible as it requires packages from internet which i cant connect as the network card itself is not working....also my USB device is not getting recognised so that only way to transfer data is through burned CD which is simply a pain.....i have aske
[02:52] <psykidellic> d in all IRC rooms related to ubuntu but nobody has been able to figure out whats the issue, also the card was working good when my prof. was using it though it had 2.6.11 kernel and now Ubuntu comes with 2.6.17-10 generic kernel.....so is there anything that i can try other then buying a new network card?
[02:52] <elpargo> phaidros: find / -name *config*php* ?
[02:52] <phaidros> elpargo, hm, also usable, but i prefer locate before find ;)
[02:53] <linux_user400354> rustlerharv: thats the problem but not the solution. havee you ever looked to see what mechanism is causing it to load? yes i realize that i could compile my own kernel, but thats not necessary to get a few modules to quit loading.
[02:53] <elpargo> phaidros: of course but you didn't took that one seriously
[02:53] <psykidellic> if no then which manufactured NIC cdo you suggest to buy which has the best support in Linux?
[02:53] <Tox> how to change those permision for folder set
[02:53] <rustlerharv> it doesnt bother me enough to try to fix it
[02:53] <Tox> at once i mean
[02:53] <phaidros> elpargo, hehe
[02:54] <nny> wow i am perplexed
[02:54] <rustlerharv> i have bigger problems like ubuntu recignizes my mp3 plas as a camera
[02:54] <nny> any logs i can chekc to see whats crappening?
[02:54] <phaidros> nny, ?
[02:54] <phaidros> rustlerharv, lol !!
[02:54] <Xenguy> Tox: man chown ; man chmod; see the option '-R' (recursive)
[02:55] <Tox> OK TNX M8
[02:55] <Judicata> psykidellic: if indeed compiling (the driver?) from source will correct the problem, using a $0.30 CD is far more efficient that buying a new Network card...
[02:55] <nny> phaidros, nothing works
[02:55] <nny> phaidros, with firefox
[02:55] <nny> phaidros, mozilla browser works though
[02:55] <phaidros> rustlerharv, there are tables for hotplug / udev where every vendor / product ID is listed
[02:56] <Mortuis> Is there an ip scanner in Ubuntu?
[02:56] <nny> Mortuis, apt-get install nmp
[02:56] <nny> er nmap
[02:56] <phaidros> nny, uh, oh, hmm, tried swiftfox?
[02:56] <Mortuis> nny:  thanks
[02:56] <warlock> wheres the ip configuration file stored again?
[02:56] <phaidros> /etc/network/interfaces
[02:56] <warlock> thanks, keep forgetting that :p
[02:56] <vandit2k7> hi does anyone know how to compile lamip
[02:57] <phaidros> vandit2k7, make?
[02:57] <jmmtech> \join #ubuntu-science
[02:57] <rustlerharv> phaidros:  where are these table and what do i do with them
[02:57] <vandit2k7> dont u have to do ./configure first
[02:57] <psykidellic> judicata: i am not compiling only the driver...the whole kernel...or should i just compile the driver? i hv no experience in it....
[02:57] <diane> man usplash sucks, does anyone know how to set usplash up at all
[02:57] <warlock> how to refresh the IP phaidros?
[02:57] <elpargo> anyone knows? I just want to literally play ANY video, totem never worked for that vlc and mplayer did but everytime something "new comes" I have to set it to play in the right player
[02:58] <vandit2k7> make says no targets specified
[02:58] <psykidellic> judicata: i just realised that i have 2 CPU machine and uname -a shows: Linux Ubuntu 2.6.17-10 generic #2 SMP Fri Oct....etc etc.....
[02:58] <phaidros> rustlerharv, I'm not sure where, but somewhere in /etc/ or /var/. if you find your device (plug it in an use usbview or such to find out) vendor & product ID listed for a wring device, please file a bug in launchpad!
[02:58] <Shrdlu> Hey all - is there anyway to add a module to Apache while still using the package off the Ubuntu repositories, or do I need to compile the whole thing from source?
[02:58] <psykidellic> do i require special linux kernel to support multiple CPU?
[02:58] <phaidros> warlock, refresh? dhcp?
[02:58] <phaidros> psykidellic, SMP
[02:58] <sorl_> Shrdlu, a2enmod "module" /etc/init.d/apache reload
[02:58] <warlock> yeah, like get a new IP, isn't if up something?
[02:58] <buchanp> psykidellic, thats the correct kernel
[02:58] <tweek> why does beryl take 35% cpu and Xorg take about 20% at all times?
[02:59] <Seconal> Anyone have any reliable links java, flash, etc packages for ubuntu?
[02:59] <warlock> ifdown eth0, and then ifup eth0 right?
[02:59] <buchanp> w
[02:59] <Shrdlu> sorl_: Awesome, thank you!
[02:59] <phaidros> warlock, depends, I always do: killall dhclient3 && dhclient3 ath0
[02:59] <lskd-255> yeah, nice comeback for the colts
[02:59] <elpargo> tweek: are you runing xgl?
[02:59] <buchanp> my xorg takes up 3% cpu
[02:59] <Howdy125> google .. ubuntu usplash
[02:59] <tweek> elpargo: yes
[03:00] <phaidros> Seconal, see ubuntu wiki
[03:00] <warlock> phaidros, problem is I'm gonna ghost out a installation on the other servers, but I need to refresh the IP, so it gets a new one. How to do that?
[03:00] <Seconal> k
[03:00] <elpargo> about the IP it depends a lot on the network not the machine if for example your AP has a 30day lease your stuck with that IP for 30days
[03:00] <buchanp> anybody help me with partition tables, grub, winblows xp
[03:00] <diane> I have googled ubuntu usplash, and all I get back is shit, nothing helpful at all
[03:00] <nny> the googles, they do nothing!
[03:00] <sorl_> diane, whats the prob?
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> !usplash | diane
[03:00] <elpargo> tweek: you don't want to know :)
[03:00] <ubotu> diane: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | diane
[03:00] <ubotu> diane: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:00] <phaidros> warlock, hm, try to delete the old leases file and get a new ip. but usually you get the  same from the dhcp-server :/
[03:00] <elpargo> tweek: xgl is actually 2 xservers running, that's why aiglx is better
[03:00] <tweek> elpargo: okay how do i get aiglx running instead
[03:01] <elpargo> tweek: what card you got?
[03:01] <warlock> phaidros, might be kinda hard. As I'm gonna ghost out the installation on 9 other servers, but Im gonna update them one by one, and set a ip to them. problem is.....
[03:01] <psykidellic> phaidros, buchanp: so what do you suggest? recomile 3c59x.c? also when doing a google, i saw couple of them compiling 3c59x.c and loading 3c59x.o but when I do modprobe on my xubuntu: it does 3c59x.ko.....
[03:01] <psykidellic> is that ok?
[03:01] <tweek> nviada fx 5500
[03:01] <Seconal> What installer does the basic ubuntu have?
[03:01] <warlock> is it possible to remove the network/interfaces file, and then reboot the PC - does it get a new file and a ip then?
[03:01] <nny> The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[03:01] <nny>   (Details: serial 56 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
[03:01] <nny>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[03:01] <nny>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[03:01] <nny>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[03:01] <nny>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[03:01] <nny>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[03:01] <phaidros> psykidellic, since kernel 2.6 modules are named .ko
[03:01] <nny> oops sorry sorry sorry sorry
[03:01] <nny> dangit
[03:02] <elpargo> tweek: you can't, you need to use the closed source nvidia drivers, check out wiki.beryl.org (not sure if that's the url) they tell you how to set it up
[03:02] <sorl_> warlock, not sucha great idea :)
[03:02] <lskd-255> diane, you can try also.......  apt-get install - -reinstall usplash
[03:02] <warlock> whys that?
[03:02] <sorl_> warlock, did you mess it up or what?
[03:02] <warlock> no
[03:03] <__james> what is compiz?
[03:03] <elpargo> come on anyone knows how to get rid of totem? and/or make it work
[03:03] <warlock> but im gonna do a ghost tomorrow, so Im wondering if it would be good to remove the /interfaces file, then reboot the other servers so they get a new interfaces file?
[03:03] <lskd-255> the early version of beryl
[03:03] <Kr0ntab> elpargo, wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:03] <elpargo> __james: wikipedia knows
[03:03] <sorl_> elpargo, from firefox?
[03:03] <elpargo> lskd-255: that is not correct
[03:03] <tweek> so whats wrong with the closed source drivers , will that work with aiglx?
[03:03] <elpargo> Kr0ntab: ahh close enough
[03:03] <psykidellic> phaidros: so you suggest to get download the latest version of 3c59x and compile it and upload it?
[03:03] <Kr0ntab> yupp...  :-)
[03:03] <phaidros> elpargo, whats wrong with apt-get remove totem?
[03:04] <elpargo> tweek: they are closed, and no they implement their own renderer it's close to aiglx
[03:04] <lskd-255> elpargo, it's a hint
[03:04] <phaidros> psykidellic, what exactly is the problem with that card?
[03:04] <tweek> elpargo: well personally i dont care if they are closed, but the seocnd part is the important one, thanks for the info
[03:04] <elpargo> phaidros: yes but then I have to redirect every file assoc to vlc, which is a pain
[03:04] <sorl_> totem is just crap, ubuntu should have chosen vlc as default
[03:04] <toM|vendettA> hi... my sound just stopped working.. on the login screen it plays the sound so i know that sound works, but when I log on it says it cant find any sound devices. can anyone help, PLEASE?
[03:04] <elpargo> Compiz was the first window manager on top of XLG, a bunch of users fork it and make beryl
[03:04] <psykidellic> phaidros: it is just not getting detected! i have tried every possible way....excpt compiling......
[03:05] <elpargo> tweek: sure most people in channel.getDistro() are like that
[03:05] <elpargo> sorl_: YES!
[03:05] <psykidellic> phaidros: modprobe, lsmod all showing correctly that 3c59x modiule is loaded but dmesg nor ifconfig {up} can recognise the card....
[03:05] <Kr0ntab> ack..
[03:05] <sorl_> elpargo, sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libtotem*
[03:05] <phaidros> psykidellic, ifconfig -a ?
[03:06] <nny> ok i gt an error if someone wants to take a look
[03:06] <psykidellic> phaidros: just the loopback interface
[03:06] <elpargo> although the real problem is not with totem it's not having the xine backend by default with all the "restricted" codecs
[03:06] <Cole> hello
[03:06] <loki505> hey i was wanderin if yall can help with a small prob i be havin
[03:06] <psykidellic> while installing ubuntu...oit could not detect the network card....
[03:06] <elpargo> sorl_: won't that break the package?
[03:06] <Cole> who here has atlantik?
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> elpargo, whats the issue with yer multimedia?
[03:06] <toM|vendettA> hi... my sound just stopped working.. on the login screen it plays the sound so i know that sound works, but when I log on it says it cant find any sound devices. can anyone help, PLEASE?
[03:06] <loki505> can i load ubuntu on my ps3
[03:07] <sorl_> elpargo, those are just symlinked plugins from moz plug dir
[03:07] <psykidellic> phaidros: while installing ubuntu...it could not detect the network card....
[03:07] <Cole> why waste $500 and load liunx on your ps3?
[03:07] <tweek> so what video cards do work right with aiglx?
[03:07] <phaidros> psykidellic, I remember I had problems with that card too. you have to set io & irq manually for loading the module properly. (I suspect its an ISA card, eh?)
[03:07] <psykidellic> phaidros: but my professor from whom i got the machine says: " was running the standard i686 SMP 2.6.11 kernel i think -- whatever the
[03:07] <psykidellic> xubuntu kernel was -- and didn't have any trouble;"
[03:07] <nny> phaidros, you think you can help me debug this error message
[03:07] <loki505> correction $600
[03:07] <Kr0ntab> tweek, intel for one...
[03:07] <elpargo> Kr0ntab: nothing plays because of the crapy default video player, I was wondering is someone has a script or deb package that will fix all the nautilus assoc and install vlc or mplayer
[03:07] <loki505> can i or not
[03:08] <loki505> and if so
[03:08] <toM|vendettA> hi... my sound just stopped working.. on the login screen it plays the sound so i know that sound works, but when I log on it says it cant find any sound devices. can anyone help, PLEASE?
[03:08] <elpargo> sorl_: ahhh yess I forgot about that
[03:08] <loki505> how do i do it
[03:08] <loki505> ubuntu on the ps3
[03:08] <tweek> any others?
[03:08] <psykidellic> phaidros: ISA card? what does that mean? Also any reference how do i set the iq and irq manually? where i get those info?
[03:08] <nny> phaidros, http://rafb.net/p/GTTcEn59.html
[03:08] <yellow> hey guys, i can't find apxs folder for apache2, where i can find it ?
[03:08] <phaidros> psykidellic, dunno then. he said it worked, doesn;t work for you :( on kernel 2.4 i did like: modprobe 3c59x io=220 irq=8  ..
[03:08] <elpargo> loki505: ig you really want to install linux there why not use a real distro for the task like yellowdog
[03:08] <MageUnion> Hey guys
[03:09] <sorl_> yellow, you prolly need the dev packages from apache
[03:09] <phaidros> psykidellic, .. the values are not easy to find out ..
[03:09] <MageUnion> Um get this and rate it will ya?
[03:09] <MageUnion> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52002
[03:09] <riotkittie> stop spamming your theme
[03:09] <riotkittie> :P
[03:09] <elpargo> isn't that spam?
[03:09] <yellow> sorl_,  i already installed apache2-threaded-dev
[03:10] <MageUnion> System sounds
[03:10] <yellow> but where is it installed to ?
[03:10] <phaidros> psykidellic, every card can have different. easiest is to download dos tool, boot dos-diskette and set io & irq (no joke!!) .. for that old 3com cards .. is written etherlink somewhere on that card?
[03:10] <MageUnion> I just released it
[03:10] <phaidros> mom, nny
[03:10] <tecywiz121> hello again, I still haven't had any luck with my realtech 8139 nic, the module 8139too fails with an error code... any ideas
[03:10] <psykidellic> phaidros: hodl on
[03:10] <MageUnion> Can you please check it out and rate it if you can
[03:10] <psykidellic> i will check
[03:10] <MageUnion> Thx
[03:10] <elpargo> ohh well guess I'll have to do it one at a time
[03:10] <phaidros> tecywiz121, which error code
[03:10] <sorl_> yellow,  which apxs2  /usr/bin/apxs2
[03:11] <tecywiz121> phaidros, -16
[03:11] <elpargo> did someone got the vlc plugin for firefox working? last time i check it was broken in ubuntu
[03:11] <yellow> ahhh
[03:11] <phaidros> tecywiz121, hm, thats the kind of error I cannot help :(
[03:11] <yellow> thanks sorl_
[03:11] <Kr0ntab> elpargo, sorl_'s suggesting of removing the symlinks for the totem plugins will work... there's two directories you should remove them from though.  And as long as you add the universe repos.. you should be able to get mozilla-mplayer installed....
[03:11] <tecywiz121> phaidros, thanks anyways
[03:11] <phaidros> elpargo, totem & mplayer & xine & vlc firefox plugins suck generally :/
[03:11] <yellow> so which is like find ?
[03:12] <nny> phaidros, mom?] 
[03:12] <elpargo> Kr0ntab: why should I use mplayer I don't want that
[03:12] <phaidros> nny, moment .. I'll have a look maybe I see sumthin ..
[03:12] <Kr0ntab> ahh...
[03:12] <sorl_> elpargo, better just use vlc extrnally, whats wrong with that?
[03:12] <sorl_> :)
[03:12] <Kr0ntab> well whatever you wish then...
[03:12] <nny> phaidros, gonna reboot and try as a different user for giggles, brb
[03:13] <elpargo> phaidros: so we should stop using linux cause they sux.
[03:13] <phaidros> nny, running baryl?
[03:13] <sorl_> integrating everything in the browser window is overrated
[03:13] <elpargo> sorl_: I have to download the file
[03:13] <psykidellic> phaidros: it says 30905B TXNM, Fast Etherlink
[03:13] <riotkittie> srsly.
[03:13] <DARKGuy> Hm, is Enlightement better than XFCE?
[03:13] <sorl_> elpargo, chose "open with" :)
[03:13] <psykidellic> phaidros: so does that mean I am loading the wrong module of 3c59x coz thats what my professor told me :)
[03:13] <s3ta> hello
[03:13] <phaidros> elpargo, yess! llets go and use .. aaer, uhm .. hmmmm, I'll stick here :) even if it sucks .. :)
[03:13] <Kr0ntab> mplayer generally works well for me... and I really like to have media embedded as the sites designers intended... so long as it works well...
[03:13] <toM|vendettA> hi.... some reason i lost all permissions on my username, and i can't edit any system settings.
[03:13] <toM|vendettA> can someone help me?
[03:13] <phaidros> elpargo, sucks just sometimes ..
[03:13] <elpargo> e is way better
[03:13] <riotkittie> DARKGuy: depends on your personal taste :P  download it and see
[03:14] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: heh, okay xD
[03:14] <elpargo> phaidros: well the only one I got working was mplayer, on gentoo I had vlc
[03:14] <tommyv> my computer froze and everything was fine, now this user account has no permissions and i can't open any system settings and it can't access my sound card or anything... how can i get back to being administrator?
[03:14] <phaidros> psykidellic, afaik 3c59x is a module for old etherlink cards. but don't slap me if I'm wrong. it 8 years ago .. on suse 5.4 ;)
[03:14] <elpargo> in fact e17 is the best window manager ever (if they release it before 2010 of course)
[03:15] <elpargo> tommyv: sudo?
[03:15] <sorl_> tommason, sudo -s ?
[03:15] <tommyv> whats that do?
[03:15] <sorl_> makes u root
[03:15] <elpargo> tommyv: although it makes no sence that you lose everything by a crash
[03:15] <phaidros> psykidellic, a one which you obviously have. but these times vendors changed hardware within series .. so there are a couple of 3c5** modules around ..
[03:15] <nny> woah
[03:16] <phaidros> look in /lin/modules what you have and try them
[03:16] <nny> phaidros, tried it as new user, asked to approve certificate for *.google.com
[03:16] <phaidros> nny, so its sumthin in you usersettings / homedir ..
[03:16] <roy> Xenguy. You are a STAR. I am back in and your info worked perfectly :-)
[03:16] <nny> phaidros, thats just it, created new user, nolove either
[03:16] <phaidros> nny, .mozilla & .firefox (if there) are deleted for the malicious user?
[03:17] <tommyv> elpargo and sorl_ heres what happened: i moved my mouse over a .mp3 file, it started to play and everything, and then my desktop effed up and all my icons were lost and it kept repeating the .mp3, so i restart my computer and i log in, and now i can't access any system settings and my sound card isn't being detected because it doesn't have the permissions, but i know it still works cause when i try to log on and type the wrong password it plaays a
[03:17] <tommyv> sound
[03:17] <nny> phaidros, and the new user firefox said "accept certificate for *.google.com"
[03:17] <psykidellic> phaidros: but its not getting detected...so should i try specific to 3090FB???
[03:17] <psykidellic> phaidros: sorry 3090Fb
[03:17] <sorl_> tommyv, so you cant log in at all?
[03:17] <elpargo> tommyv: did you do a full reboot, your sound card got stuck
[03:17] <phaidros> psykidellic, wait I'll have a look into my modules dir ..
[03:18] <nny> phaidros, neither user can use firefox
[03:18] <Xerroz> is there some way (without rebuilding from source) to get the packages with debug symbols (is there a debug repository?)
[03:18] <tommyv> sorl_ & elpargo: i did a full reboot a few times, and it still is like this, and yes i can log on, but i have like no permissions
[03:18] <OzoneCo> "Permission denied in Unknown on line 0" how do i find error?
[03:18] <sorl_> tommyv, permissions for what?
[03:18] <roy> Xenguy. You are a STAR. I am back into the HD version of X. I cannot thank you enough :-)
[03:18] <elpargo> define: "no permissions"
[03:18] <sorl_> tommyv, try to do sudo -s
[03:18] <elpargo> grrr ok you take it sorl_
[03:18] <sorl_> elpargo, hehe
[03:18] <phaidros> psykidellic, I only have 3c509 ..
[03:18] <tecywiz121> 8139too module, anyone able to help with error -16
[03:18] <tecywiz121> ??? :'(
[03:18] <tommyv> sorl_ and elpargo: like I try to open "Users and Groups" and it says: The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[03:19] <phaidros> tecywiz121, tried another pci slot?
[03:19] <tecywiz121> phaidros, yep lol
[03:19] <psykidellic> phaidros: thats different from 3c59x? correct?
[03:19] <elpargo> ubuntu works in misterious ways
[03:19] <phaidros> tommyv, your user is not in the sudoers list it seems .. is not allowed to get root ..
[03:19] <nwonknu-> sup
[03:19] <OzoneCo> i run test.php (default works) and i get unknown line 0
[03:20] <elpargo> tommyv: is that the first user?
[03:20] <phaidros> psykidellic, which kernel version? (2.6.17-10-generic)
[03:20] <sorl_> tommyv, can u try "sudo -s" in a console?
[03:20] <psykidellic> yes
[03:20] <psykidellic> with SMP
[03:20] <sorl_> tommyv, or do cat /etc/sudoers
[03:20] <sorl_> and see if yer name is in there
[03:20] <phaidros> elpargo, tommyv, how to set a user as sudoer for X? in /etc/sudoers also?
[03:20] <psykidellic> 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[03:20] <tommyv> sorl_, elpargo, & phaidros: I type "sudo -s" in the console and its just like i press enter.. it just says
[03:20] <ctkroeker> I installed a cheap no-name brand pci audio card and ubuntu doesn't recognize it. What to I do so I can use it?
[03:20] <snoopy> Hello all.
[03:20] <deafboy> when your in a ttyl how do you get back to x?
[03:21] <phaidros> .. not allowed
[03:21] <nwonknu-> I'll soon find out
[03:21] <ubuntu2> hey
[03:21] <sorl_> tommyv, says what? :)
[03:21] <ubuntu2> \i have problem
[03:21] <phaidros> lol
[03:21] <phaidros> :)
[03:21] <elpargo> phaidros: visudo
[03:21] <ubuntu2> i wan to install UBuntu
[03:21] <tommyv> sorl_, phaidros, elpargo:  tommyvyo@downstairsdesktop:~$  cat /etc/sudoers | cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[03:21] <phaidros> elpargo, ah, si, always forget the modern sh** ;)
[03:21] <elpargo> ubuntu2: that is not a problem
[03:21] <ubuntu2> some one help me
[03:21] <deafboy> ubuntu2: follow the wiki
[03:21] <ubuntu2> now on the problem
[03:22] <ubuntu2> deafboy how free space i need to put in swap linux
[03:22] <elpargo> tommyv: sudo su?
[03:22] <nny> meh.. figures.. my GF gets a problem i can't fix in linux
[03:22] <tommyv> elpargo, tommyvyo@downstairsdesktop:~$  cat /etc/sudoers
[03:22] <tommyv> cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[03:22] <ubuntu2> i wan to make it manual
[03:22] <deafboy> ubuntu2: how much ram do you have?
[03:22] <tommyv> er not that elpargo
[03:22] <elpargo> ubuntu2: ramx2
[03:22] <phaidros> tommyv, you know the username & password for the first user ?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> nny: which is?
[03:22] <ubuntu2> i have 1 gb ram
[03:22] <sorl_> tommyv, yes i forgot its root.root owned
[03:22] <ctkroeker> how do I list my souncard?
[03:22] <elpargo> ubuntu although most people don't og over 1gb
[03:22] <tommyv> phaidros yes
[03:22] <ubuntu2> what
[03:22] <tommyv> gahhhh, i don't know how my computer got this effed up... it was working fine.. lol
[03:23] <phaidros> then login as this user and add your actual user to /etc/sudoers as listed in the file ..
[03:23] <phaidros> tommyv, only the first user is allowed. ubuntu principle.
[03:23] <nny> tonyyarusso, firefox crashes.. asks for session (new?old?) dialog, safem ode asks if you want to reset, but once it tries to start nothing.. i have removed/purged the package, remove the users .mozilla dir, tried a new user, nothing works, it just.. disappears
[03:23] <phaidros> tommyv, all other users must get the permissions by that first user ..
[03:23] <ubuntu2> could someone can tell me how can i install manual Ubuntu
[03:24] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: ?
[03:24] <phaidros> nny, sorry no idea here
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> phaidros: you can add users with sudo privs
[03:24] <nny> phaidros, np thanks for trying
[03:24] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix man i need to install it maunal on partition
[03:24] <tommyv> phaidros: i had user named 'tommyv', and then made one named 'family', then one named 'tommyvyo', and then I deleted 'tommyv'
[03:24] <Pelo> I need help with udev rules  ,  anyone ?
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> nny: extension?
[03:24] <phaidros> tonyyarusso, as priviledged user ;)
[03:24] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Where are you at now?
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> phaidros: right
[03:24] <ubuntu2> in live cd
[03:24] <nny> tonyyarusso, shouldn't be any, reinstalled and removed .mozilla dir
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> phaidros: Or in recovery mode
[03:25] <hyperb0lix> Alright, start up ubiquity then
[03:25] <deafboy> How do you re-enter x after entering a ttyl?
[03:25] <elpargo> ubuntu2: there is a BIG icon that says intall
[03:25] <Jaymottz22> anyone know of an app to rip a skype VOIP stream?
[03:25] <ubuntu2> elpargo i need to install it manual parttiton
[03:25] <sorl_> nny, try apt-get romove --purge firefox
[03:25] <elpargo> deafboy: ctrl+alt+f7
[03:25] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Click the giant install button like elpargo said
[03:25] <phaidros> tommyv, hm, listend to tonyyarusso and try to get the recovery mode. because u deleted the only priviledged user (admin) from your system ;)
[03:25] <nny> sorl_, done it
[03:25] <deafboy> elpargo: thx dude
[03:25] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Then go through the installation process
[03:25] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix i click there
[03:25] <elpargo> ubuntu2: just do it it will ask for that too
[03:25] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: And?
[03:25] <sorl_> nny, try and download a binary package from mozilla.org and see if that one works
[03:26] <DARKGuy> Heh, Enlightenment's not too bad, it's like an advanced fluxbox... but I guess I'll stay with my xfce :P
[03:26] <tommyv> phaidros, i wasnt aware tonyyarusso was trying to help me, so i didn't read what he said :O how do i get to recovery mode
[03:26] <phaidros> tonyyarusso, didn't know that with the recovery mode .. never used it .. always have an enabled root login, lol
[03:26] <ubuntu2> and i im in the partition level
[03:26] <elpargo> just click the blue button... ehh i mean install button
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> tommyv: At boot time, it's an option in the grub menu
[03:26] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix i need to know how to set the partitions
[03:26] <phaidros> tommyv, he told me, but we were talking about your problem :)
[03:26] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Why not let it do it for you?
[03:26] <sorl_> nny, and you did killall firefox-bin ?
[03:26] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix becouse i have windows 20003 installed
[03:26] <nny> sorl_, yeah
[03:26] <cudaman73> question
[03:26] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Ahh
[03:26] <tommyv> tonyyarusso, phaidros : i dont have grub installed, how do i get to it?
[03:26] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix and i want to have news partition
[03:27] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Well, create a new ext3 partition in the unallocated space
[03:27] <phaidros> tommyv, only as priviledged user ..
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> tommyv: You using lilo instead or something?
[03:27] <ubuntu2> new
[03:27] <cudaman73> if i can cat /dev/input/mx1000, and everything is linked properly (to my knowledge), why is X still returning NULL For my pointer?
[03:27] <elpargo> ubuntu2: there is this really nice article, cause it will really help if you tell us what you need http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:27] <ubuntu2> ext3 but how mb
[03:27] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Assuming that you didn't let Windoze allocate all of it for itself
[03:27] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix no i want new
[03:27] <SilentDis> hi hi :)
[03:27] <tommyv> tonyyarusso, phaidros : i don't know what im using, i dont think i use a boot manager, i just turn on my computer and ubuntu loads up
[03:27] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: Ok, what do you want? Do you want to keep the Windoze partiton?
[03:28] <elpargo> tommyv: then u got grub
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> tommyv: Try hitting Esc early on.
[03:28] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix i only want someone to tell me how mb to pur for ext and for swap
[03:28] <phaidros> tommyv, everybody uses a bootmanager, if not machine wouldn't boot
[03:28] <ubuntu2> i have 1 gb ram
[03:28] <tommyv> elpargo tonyyarusso phaidros: what do i do from there?
[03:28] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: For the main partition, as much as you need
[03:28] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz, is there a way to test my computer if it support the ubuntu 6.10 version amd64 ?
[03:28] <hyperb0lix> ubuntu2: For the swap, I just go twice my RAM, but that's really more than necessary
[03:28] <phaidros> tommyv, just select after reboot the recovery modus in the bootmanager
[03:28] <elpargo> ubuntu2: i told you 2 x ram or 1gb as for ext that's your main OS whatever you need
[03:28] <psykidellic> phaidros: http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm maybe i can try one specific to 3c905b...which one do you suggest that i download?
[03:28] <Pelo> I made this rule to try and launch a 2 line script to backup one folder to a usb flash drive when it is plugged in , it is not working ,  can someone fix it ?  ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", RUN+="/home/jean/.bin/backup"
[03:29] <elpargo> tommyv: do for?
[03:29] <sorl_> Pr0ph3t, amd64 is just a mess :)
[03:29] <ComputinChuck> i've installed ubuntu 6.10 on several computers and all of them seem to have the same problems with crashing apps and so on.  i've found 6.04 to be a much more stable release.  was 6.10 rushed or is this stability difference just a function of the "LTS" thing?  has anyone else had stability problems with 6.10?
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> tommyv:  Esc will give you a pretty menu, one of which will say recovery right on it.
[03:29] <SilentDis> Pr0ph3t, sure, burn the LiveCD iso off, and try it out :)
[03:29] <ubuntu2> elpargo in number
[03:29] <tommyv> okay phaidros tonyyarusso and elpargo, i'll be back.... hopefully this works =\
[03:29] <phaidros> psykidellic, oh, uh, its not that easy to download some code and make a module out of it :/
[03:29] <Pr0ph3t> SilenceGold bah, this is the portuguese way!
[03:29] <elpargo> ubuntu2: 1 for each
[03:29] <phaidros> tommyv, good luck!
[03:29] <Pr0ph3t> SilenceGold I want a more clever way! :P
[03:29] <ubuntu2> hyperbolix tell me in numbers
[03:29] <sorl_> ComputinChuck, yes dapper is stable, i feel edgy is edgy
[03:29] <ubuntu2> elpargo i have 4 g hard disk
[03:30] <ComputinChuck> sorl_, that's a good way to put it
[03:30] <phaidros> psykidellic, only thing i would do if i were you is using google as much a possible to find out about ubuntu and that card ..
[03:30] <psykidellic> phaidros: i am left with no othe roption too....i guess...doing modprobe 3C905B says....module not found.....
[03:30] <elpargo> dude ubuntu2 if you really have no idea what your doing please try to undestand things before messing up your system and blaiming it on ubuntu
[03:30] <sorl_> ComputinChuck, edgy is ok for desktop usage
[03:30] <phaidros> psykidellic, you have this module found in your /lib/modules ?? not .. i don't have it here ..
[03:31] <psykidellic> that was 3c59x
[03:31] <elpargo> ubuntu2: swap as I told you 2 times already is twice as much as your ram, that is where pagging goes, now more then 1gb is a waste of space cause noone with a desktop/laptop will go over 1gb of swap
[03:31] <ubuntu2> elpargo man what this mean
[03:31] <psykidellic> not 3C90%b
[03:31] <psykidellic> 30905b
[03:31] <psykidellic> sorry...3c905b
[03:31] <ComputinChuck> sorl_, honestly, i've had enough stability problems to shy away from it even on desktops
[03:31] <elpargo> ubuntu2: as for the ext that is how much you want to alocate for ubuntu and noone can tell you that
[03:31] <what_if> I updated my ubuntu edgy, reinstalled my Nvidia drivers and now anything that is full screen 3D crashes the X server, no error in the Xorg.log
[03:31] <what_if> any ideas ?
[03:32] <sorl_> ComputinChuck, gnome issues have been the most noticable ones for me so far...
[03:32] <SilentDis> what_if, there's always something in that xorg.log file, just might not be at the bottom.  can you pastebin it for me?
[03:32] <squeaks> anyone know how to enable wrap workspaces when mouse reaches edge of screen in gnome?
[03:32] <bytecolor> the only user on this box (bytecolor) is now only in groups (bytecolor and cvs), I fscked up and removed myself from admin
[03:32] <bytecolor> any way to fix this?
[03:32] <what_if> SilentDis: shure, hold on
[03:32] <sorl_> ComputinChuck, but dapper is really solid in my opinion
[03:32] <SilentDis> what_if, thanks :)
[03:32] <ComputinChuck> sorl_, hmm, i've had problems with lots of different apps, as far as i could tell, gnome stuff seemed pretty stable
[03:33] <phaidros> psykidellic, what does modprobe 3c509 say?
[03:33] <SilentDis> bytecolor, no root access at all, from another user?  did you enable root at all?
[03:33] <ComputinChuck> sorl_, i agree, i like dapper a lot for that reason.  seems faster too.
[03:33] <bytecolor> SilenceGold, nope
[03:33] <ubuntu2> elpargo i mae it
[03:33] <bytecolor> been using sudo
[03:33] <phaidros> bytecolor, recovery mode (boot optione) :)
[03:33] <deafboy> I got a pal that I got to try ubuntu. He went to install it and resize his ntfs partition and it took forever. It eventually finished. He rebooted and now his windows partition says that it has used the old used space + his new ubuntu partition space. But inside windows it shows the correct partition size. but in Gparted it doesn't show the correct size. Is there anyway to remedy this?
[03:33] <ubuntu2> elpargo ubt is there some mb for /
[03:34] <ubuntu2> elpargo becosue i only create for swap and for ext3
[03:34] <elpargo> deafboy: huh?
[03:34] <bytecolor> I've never used sudo till I installed ubuntu, always used su
[03:34] <SilentDis> bytecolor, just fyi, my username is SilentDis :)   and yes, phaidros is correct, use 'recovery' mode from the prompt, and you'll have to re-add yourself to the admin group via the term.
[03:34] <bytecolor> SilentDis, sorry :)
[03:34] <sorl_> deafboy, dont use linux for ntfs, get some tool like partition magic to fix it
[03:34] <phaidros> bytecolor, fist thing on ubuntu for me is always: sudo passwd root :)
[03:34] <deafboy> elpargo: his gparted shows incorrect space usage of the windows partition
[03:34] <elpargo> ubuntu2: ext is the type, / is the place to put it
[03:35] <SilentDis> bytecolor, no worries, SilenceGold is probably a bit peeved at his dinger going off constantly *snicker*
[03:35] <deafboy> sorl_: is he fucked now?
[03:35] <ubuntu2> elpargo but i put it in ext3
[03:35] <bytecolor> SilentDis, haha
[03:35] <elpargo> deafboy: and it's bigger then what it's supposed to be?
[03:35] <bytecolor> phaidros, I had actually gotten used to sudo
[03:35] <elpargo> ubuntu2: ext3 is the TYPE you created a ext3 partition and mount it at "/"
[03:36] <tweek> okay got xgl all sorted out, now im curious why gnome-vfs-daemon uses about 30% cpu when copying files on a network (smb only, ftp is just fine)
[03:36] <LjL> !language | deafboy
[03:36] <ro1> adaptr. Are you there ??
[03:36] <ubotu> deafboy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:36] <toM|vendettA> phaidros, elpargo, tonyyarusso: i got into the recovery menu... and when i did "cat /etc/sudoers" only the root account showed up... how do i add a new account with administrator privalages?
[03:36] <sorl_> deafboy, well, there always ways to save data, r-disk is my last windows resort, but fiddling with ntfs in linux is a nono for me
[03:36] <bytecolor> but I'll enable root this round
[03:36] <psykidellic> phaidros: nothing but why 3c509??? my card says: 3c905b...any particular reason?
[03:36] <deafboy> elpargo: yeah it still shows it takes up the whole disk and the used space is the original used space +the ubuntu partitoin size
[03:36] <phaidros> bytecolor, i tried a while, but I got back to the good old root, but on servers i prevent root ssh login ..
[03:36] <ubuntu2> elpargo i will try
[03:36] <bytecolor> phaidros, nod
[03:36] <elpargo> deafboy: but ubuntu boots right?
[03:36] <phaidros> psykidellic, was just a try .. hmmm, dunno
[03:37] <deafboy> elpargo: no the install never went through, because it never partitioned correctly
[03:37] <phaidros> psykidellic, so you have to get the 3c905b module ..
[03:37] <deafboy> elpargo: when he boots gparted it still shows windows takes up the whole disk, just now the used space is way higher
[03:37] <bytecolor> ok, lemme try this.. thanks phaidros & SilentDis
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> toM|vendettA: adduser yourusername admin
[03:38] <elpargo> deafboy: then it failed and did nothing
[03:38] <toM|vendettA> tonyyarusso, so if i do "adduser tommyvyo admin", when i reboot back into gnome everything should be back to normal?
[03:38] <phaidros> psykidellic, maybe that helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82564.html
[03:38] <unvs> i'm setting up postfix w/ amavis & spamassassin. i've managed to get the mail viruschecked, but i can't seem to make spamassassin scan the mails. it works "standalone", but i'm not sure where in postfix's "master.cf" i'm supposed to be changing things. any clues?
[03:38] <deafboy> elpargo: but inside windows it shows the correct new partition size
[03:38] <what_if> SilentDis: http://pastebin.ca/324212
[03:38] <deafboy> elpargo: that's what is so weird about it
[03:39] <SilentDis> what_if, checking now, thank you :)
[03:39] <deafboy> elpargo: in gparted it shows up in correctly, but in windows it shows up correctly
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> toM|vendettA: Should be.  Unless you lost the admin group as well.
[03:39] <deafboy> elpargo: and he has booted about 5 times
[03:39] <deafboy> *rebooted
[03:39] <toM|vendettA> tonyyarusso: that sounds bad... if thats the case... hah i dont know what i'll do :P
[03:39] <phaidros> deafboy, thats windows foo, somewhere windows has stored the old size ..
[03:39] <snoopy> Hello.  I need some help with my Geforce4 video card and LCD monitor. I am stuck at 1024x768. I would like to use 1280x1024
[03:39] <elpargo> deafboy: don't tell anyone but gparted sucks
[03:40] <phaidros> deafboy, maybe some fixmbr can help ..
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> toM|vendettA: It could be fixed still - I'd just have to look it up or something.  This one I know offhand.
[03:40] <phaidros> elpargo, really?
[03:40] <SilentDis> what_if, do you have a wacom tablet or some such on that machine?
[03:40] <what_if> SilentDis: not yet :) why ?
[03:40] <deafboy> phaidros: can you run fixmbr from something other than a windows cd?
[03:40] <elpargo> phaidros: it's just like vlc,xine,mplayer firefox plugins :)
[03:40] <Led-Hed> ikonia, I tested the reciever on a FC box and it works fine.  I did notice that on my FC boxes that the receiver is detected a a "Low"  Receiver and on Ubuntu its detected as a "High"
[03:40] <SilentDis> what_if, just noticing a lot of init errors for it, is all
[03:40] <phaidros> deafboy, not sure, maybe freedos floppy ??
[03:41] <phaidros> elpargo, btw, beryl sux too
[03:41] <deafboy> phaidros: beryl does suck, i removed it
[03:41] <elpargo> deafboy: the only thing I could think about is actually 2 things a) do it again b) use a windows based partition software
[03:41] <elpargo> phaidros: !!! no way
[03:41] <what_if> SilentDis: I am using the default xorg.conf, is setup for everything :)
[03:41] <SilentDis> what_if, wow, it's doing a lot of probing... are you still booting from the LiveCD?
[03:41] <deafboy> elpargo: now that i think about it i had the same issue with my ntfs partition, but i just removed windows :)
[03:41] <what_if> SilentDis: nope
[03:41] <elpargo> phaidros: why you think beryl sucks?
[03:41] <what_if> SilentDis: it worked fine before the updates
[03:42] <deafboy> phaidros: how would fixmbr help it? the mbr saves partition sizes?
[03:42] <SilentDis> what_if, try a reconfigure of the xorg package:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:42] <SilentDis> i'm assuming something got mucked up in there :P
[03:42] <phaidros> elpargo, at least with ati card .. hangs, delays .. darn, not what i ecpected from a opengl window manager .. but could be proprietary ati-foo
[03:43] <Pr0ph3t> is there a channel about ubuntu amd64 version ?
[03:43] <deafboy> phaidros: i have fglrx with x1600, cuz open source doesn't work for my card, and yes it's garbage
[03:43] <phaidros> deafboy, hm, not sure <guessing> windows reads the partition data from somewhere, maybe mbr</guessing>
[03:43] <SilentDis> Pr0ph3t, you bet, right here for the most part :)  did you try booting from the CD?  what happened?
[03:43] <deafboy> phaidros: the odd part is windows gets it right
[03:43] <elpargo> phaidros: huh? I ran it on my ati cards and it worked like a charm, in fact the free drivers are better for my card
[03:43] <deafboy> phaidros: and linux has it wrong :(
[03:44] <deafboy> elpargo: you probably dont have a x1000s card?
[03:44] <elpargo> phaidros: last time I got it was svn before 0.1.3 and it was rock solid
[03:44] <TEGA> esteem.24shells.net 14864
[03:44] <phaidros> deafboy, maybe some fdisk or cfdisk foo might help (warning: could be that cfdisk was a ppc tool, cant remember properly, read before use!)
[03:44] <elpargo> deafboy: r300 best line ever :D
[03:44] <deafboy> elpargo: 515 ftl :(
[03:44] <Pr0ph3t> SilenceGold I am downloading it yet!
[03:44] <deafboy> phaidros: is fdisk windows or linux, i forget
[03:45] <elpargo> phaidros: now it seems your problem is with XGL which is a hack, and of course ati for not giving the specs for your card
[03:45] <phaidros> deafboy, oh, uhm .. then make some windows fdisk foo, maybe it corrects the tables so linux can read them properl y ;)
[03:45] <riotkittie> where is he checking teh partition in win -- is he going by disk properties in explorer or using the disk info thing
[03:45] <elpargo> deafboy: both
[03:45] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz, do you know websites about customizing ubuntu desktop ?
[03:45] <phaidros> deafboy, exists for both
[03:45] <elpargo> deafboy: well they are 2 programs named the same way, the one in windows sucks a lot, there is a new one but can't remember it's name
[03:45] <SilentDis> Pr0ph3t, my name is SilentDis (hit tab twice) ;)  i'm if you've got the right chip for it (an amd64 chip, obviously) you'll probably be fine.  the LiveCD will let you know right away, obviously :)
[03:45] <phaidros> elpargo, u use ati xorg driver for beryl?
[03:46] <elpargo> phaidros: with AIGLX
[03:46] <Pr0ph3t> SilentDis sorry man ;) I will test it on a few hours, thanks
[03:46] <phaidros> elpargo, how? guide?
[03:46] <deafboy> elpargo: yeah XGL/beryl blows
[03:46] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set to open a terminal in a new tab by defaul ?
[03:46] <toM|vendettA> hey elpargo and phaidros and tonyyarusso: good news, i can now access user and groups etc, that adduser tommyvyo admin thing worked. badnews: my sound still doesnt work...
[03:46] <deafboy> phaidros: he has an old card
[03:46] <elpargo> phaidros: you will need gentoo :)
[03:46] <SilentDis> Pr0ph3t, okes :)  good luck, you should be fine though, again, if the chip is right :)
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> !sound | toM|vendettA
[03:46] <ubotu> toM|vendettA: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:47] <deafboy> lol bots ftw
[03:47] <NassDARk> # madrid
[03:47] <phaidros> ?? <deafboy> phaidros: beryl does suck, i removed it    && <deafboy> elpargo: yeah XGL/beryl blows ??
[03:47] <jrib> toM|vendettA: are you in the "audio" group?
[03:47] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set bash to open a terminal in a new tab by defaul ?
[03:47] <elpargo> phaidros: stop blaming the server for the client
[03:47] <elpargo> that is FUD
[03:47] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, very good for the first one!
[03:47] <SilentDis> deafboy, ubotu is all-knowing and always ready to help.  :)
[03:48] <phaidros> elpargo, lol, true, you are right I'm mixing it up
[03:48] <SilentDis> !ubotu
[03:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:48] <elpargo> XGL blows it's 2 xservers it was supposed to be a test
[03:48] <mataks> i really need help badly
[03:48] <phaidros> elpargo, but for that I won't go back on gentoo
[03:48] <elpargo> but US bunch of monkeys wanted to run it
[03:48] <SilentDis> !help | mataks
[03:48] <ubotu> mataks: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:48] <Gambit> i can't get my modem to dial up in ubuntu
[03:48] <SilentDis> oops, wrong one...
[03:48] <phaidros> elpargo, had xorg-ati with gentoo, but gave up on gentoo itself ..
[03:48] <elpargo> phaidros: I miss my gentoo :(
[03:48] <SilentDis> mataks, just ask your question, we'll see what can be done. :)
[03:48] <phaidros> elpargo, me too
[03:49] <toM|vendettA> phaidros elpargo jrib: tommyvyo@downstairsdesktop:~$ alsamixer
[03:49] <toM|vendettA> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:49] <phaidros> elpargo, but on the other hand i don't want it back
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> !dialup | Gambit
[03:49] <ubotu> Gambit: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:49] <mataks> im trying to install compiz and edited the xconf. and now im doom.. i can't start my X back :( where can i edit the xconf. i make a backup on it
[03:49] <deafboy> phaidros: the x1000s cards suck in linux with current drivers
[03:49] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, # lspci , look for soundcard, look with lsmod if modules are loaded
[03:49] <deafboy> phaidros: whether your running xgl or not
[03:49] <toM|vendettA> phaidros, huh?
[03:49] <phaidros> deafboy, all ati cards .. even radeon modility 9000
[03:50] <elpargo> phaidros: I do want it back, I'm going to make a binary overlay with a nice integration to portage so packages will download super fast
[03:50] <DARKGuy> mataks: to get X back and fix it, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:50] <mataks> DARKGuy ok DARKGuy  thnx your there :)
[03:50] <Gambit> my radeon 7500 works with ubuntu
[03:50] <DARKGuy> mataks: welcome ^^
[03:50] <phaidros> elpargo, you'll manage an binary overlay?
[03:50] <webmaren> can somebody help me to get 1280x800 to work on Edgy, it worked in dapper
[03:51] <phaidros> elpargo, more pppl doing that may be a reason to go back ..
[03:51] <OzoneCo> i did a crontab -e , how do i test it?
[03:51] <elpargo> phaidros: I got it on my mind it will need a huge server (disk space) but i'll love to have it
[03:51] <deafboy> phaidros: screw you ati !
[03:51] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, terminal # lspci
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> OzoneCo: What's "it"?
[03:51] <Kazero> Ok, huge problem
[03:51] <Judicata> webmaren: you're going to need to be more specific.
[03:51] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, look for soundcard or audio
[03:51] <elpargo> gentoo customization is great but a day of recompiling x is no fun
[03:51] <Judicata> Kazero: welcome back?
[03:51] <Kazero> Whenever I hold shift and hit backspace, I get logged out
[03:51] <mataks> DARKGuy how much memory will i set to the video card?
[03:51] <SilentDis> !resolution | webmaren
[03:51] <ubotu> webmaren: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:51] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, terminal # lsmod
[03:51] <Kazero> Judicata: Are you always here? :()
[03:51] <phaidros> toM|vendettA, see loaded modules ..
[03:51] <rustlerharv> webmaren: you can add resilutions in the x11 config
[03:51] <Kazero> Judicata: :)*
[03:52] <DARKGuy> mataks: as much as your card has, how many MBs you have?
[03:52] <webmaren> Judicata: I have 1280x800 enabled in my xorg.conf and it should work, but it won't show up in the screen resolution pane
[03:52] <Judicata> Kazero: we coincide :). Of course.. the common recommendation would be "don't hit shift and backspace"
[03:52] <phaidros> deafboy, it sticks in the thinkpad :(
[03:52] <mataks> DARKGuy  i don't know :|
[03:52] <Kazero> Judicata: Its hard not to. I did it 4 times today
[03:52] <OzoneCo> tonyyarusso: */6 * * * * /path/php -q /path/logger.php >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:52] <elpargo> phaidros: sorl_ this seems right assuming the packages are not broken http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[03:52] <toM|vendettA> phaidros: i got it working, thanks :-D
[03:52] <phaidros> elpargo, /me is running that link :)
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> OzoneCo: Wait 6 minutes and see?
[03:52] <elpargo> phaidros: I already got the knowhow, I still maintain a couple of ebuilds
[03:53] <Judicata> webmaren: What kind of video card do you have?
[03:53] <mataks> ok never mind it says that this parameter should usually be left blank :)
[03:53] <DARKGuy> mataks: alright, can you switch to another terminal, logging in and typing "lspci" ?
[03:53] <Flannel> Kazero, Judicata, that's an XGL/Beryl thing, try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, #xgl, or #beryl
[03:53] <OzoneCo> its been 20
[03:53] <Kazero> Flannel: I will
[03:53] <webmaren> Judicata: radeon x550
[03:53] <toM|vendettA> thanks to phaidros, jrib, tonyyarusso and elpargo, and everyone else :D
[03:53] <olympionex> does anyone here know how the livecd unionfs system works?
[03:53] <Judicata> webmaren: which driver, do you know?
[03:53] <DARKGuy> mataks: Oh well, that too. Though it's good to let Xorg to know how much ram do you have in the video card xD
[03:53] <Xerroz> are there debug repositories?
[03:54] <OzoneCo> tonyyarusso: musta been 19...working...ty
[03:54] <webmaren> Judicata: i believe i'm using fglrx, and the display is on vesa
[03:54] <MSTK> I'm sorry if the answer is simple, but can anyone help me configure my keyboard to use the International layout?
[03:54] <elpargo> toM|vendettA: np
[03:54] <Flannel> Xerroz: you mean the development release?
[03:54] <phaidros> elpargo, never diggt into, but ebuilds as all gentoo stuff is quite logical and handy :)
[03:54] <SilentDis> Xerroz, usually, each main package has a -dev counterpart, that has debugging turned on :)
[03:54] <Judicata> webmaren: what does the "Vendor string" say on "fglrxinfo"?
[03:54] <deafboy> phaidros: think of any other places i could get help?
[03:54] <elpargo> phaidros: ebuilds are 10-20 times easier to right than a damn deb package
[03:55] <Flannel> guys, take the gentoo discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:55] <Trini_Man> hi everyone
[03:55] <webmaren> Judicata: vendor string?
[03:55] <what_if> SilentDis: ok, tried the reconfigure of the xorg package, it messed things up so I copied the original org.conf back. Any idea how to troubleshoot the 3d ?
[03:55] <webmaren> Judicata: oh wait mesa
[03:55] <Trini_Man> I need help getting TV time to work on my sound Card
[03:55] <SilentDis> !hi | Trini_Man
[03:55] <ubotu> Trini_Man: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:55] <Xerroz> Flannel, i suppose, im wanting to help debug feisty.
[03:55] <mataks> DARKGuy what is my mouse protocol? ImPS/2 or ExPLORERPS/2
[03:55] <Judicata> webmaren: type "fglrxinfo" in a terminal. the 2nd or 3rd line will be "OpenGL Vendor String" something something.
[03:55] <phaidros> elpargo, Enable AIGLX: Edgy Eft's X.org 7.1 includes AIGLX, and enabling it is easy. .. whats this? this is the crucial point i want to know and that guide tells like this .. lol
[03:56] <DARKGuy> mataks: Usually ImPS/2
[03:56] <webmaren> Judicata: oh wait mesa
[03:56] <DARKGuy> mataks: for most PS2/infrared mouses
[03:56] <phaidros> deafboy, parted mailinglist
[03:56] <Trini_Man> anyone know how to get tvtime sound working ?
[03:56] <SilentDis> what_if, you're just trying to setup your card for proper 3d?  do you have reservations about using the non-free binary blobs right from the card manufacturer?
[03:56] <kernix> hi, did someone tries to install the software KTOON please ?
[03:56] <Judicata> webmaren: ok, it looks like you have two problems, then.
[03:56] <mataks> DARKGuy im on imps2 then :)
[03:56] <Flannel> Xerroz: That'd be the normal feisty repository, There's information (and discussion) about it in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <Judicata> webmaren: pastebin your xorg.conf, please, and give me the URL.
[03:56] <phaidros> elpargo, true, never want to make .debs .. or ever tried to recompile ubtuntu stock kernel?? what a mess ..
[03:56] <Trini_Man> nyone know how to get tvtime sound working ?
[03:57] <what_if> SilentDis: I am already using the Nvidia binary drivers and 3d works, just when a program goes "full screen" the server crashes
[03:57] <elpargo> phaidros: hahaha I have killed a couple of machines with recompiling this kernel :p
[03:57] <webmaren> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2510/
[03:57] <SilentDis> what_if, now that's just weird...  i'm not sure what could cause that in the way of settings.  i was gonna suggest envy otherwise heh
[03:57] <Trini_Man> nyone know how to get tvtime sound working ?
[03:57] <Judicata> webmaren: ok.
[03:58] <phaidros> elpargo, an gentoo kernel is charme in comparison (never that kernels are a charme ..)
[03:58] <elpargo> phaidros: ones my company starts earning some money I'll put up the binary repo, gentoo is the best thing ever
[03:58] <SilentDis> !info tvtime
[03:58] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[03:58] <phaidros> elpargo, I have machine with unlimited traffic ..
[03:58] <SilentDis> Trini_Man, i only know as much as ubotu knows about that app, sorry :(
[03:58] <Trini_Man> ok
[03:58] <Judicata> webmaren: have you installed fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[03:58] <Trini_Man> sigh
[03:58] <what_if> SilentDis: I'm lost too, it worked until I did the software updates
[03:58] <SilentDis> Trini_Man, might try un-muting some of the inputs on your sound card... that's how I got mine working last time I messed with TV stuff
[03:59] <elpargo> phaidros: it means that you don't need to install a new xserver just add that to the xorg.conf
[03:59] <phaidros> huh? aiglx is already compiled into xorg on edgy?
[03:59] <SilentDis> what_if, i'd almost say to just try envy, can't hurt, and virtually guarntees a perfect build/install every time.
[03:59] <Trini_Man> SilentDis : tried that
[03:59] <webmaren> Judicata: yes and yes and they are updated fully
[03:59] <Trini_Man> SilentDis : still no luck
[03:59] <elpargo> phaidros: but the problem is not traffic but disk space, and it needs a LOT of people to work because a different useflag will set the package invalid
[03:59] <phaidros> elpargo, but that damn fglrx has probs with Option "Composite" "Enable"
[04:00] <SilentDis> Trini_Man, sorry, that's the only thing I can think of.  I'm still shopping about for a TV Tuner for linux, so I have little to no experience with them yet. :(
[04:00] <Judicata> webmaren: ok, give me a second. back up your xorg.conf, because I'm going to have you edit it (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[04:00] <kernix> someone knows how to install KTOON? because it requires QT4 (installed) and when i do the "./configure" it says i have version 3
[04:00] <elpargo> phaidros: I started to work on something that will easy the recompilation but my lack of make/autoconf and all that let it there.
[04:00] <phaidros> elpargo, thats a matematically challenge .. u want to build a repo with a full matrix of useflagged binary ebuilds ????
[04:01] <phaidros> elpargo, not to mention dependencies ..
[04:01] <Flannel> phaidros, elpargo, take the discussion elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:01] <phaidros> Flannel, u are right, sorry
[04:01] <webmaren> Judicata: ready
[04:01] <bytecolor> that weren't so bad :)
[04:01] <SilentDis> !envy | what_if
[04:01] <ubotu> what_if: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:01] <hans0lo> How can I tell if ubuntu edgy is installed with 64-bit support?
[04:01] <elpargo> Flannel: about time :)
[04:01] <Judicata> webmaren: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2511/
[04:02] <elpargo> phaidros: that's the extreme case
[04:02] <Flannel> elpargo: I already mentioned it once
[04:02] <SilentDis> hans0lo, uname -a should list all the info about your linux install
[04:02] <phaidros> Flannel, not to me ..
[04:02] <Judicata> webmaren: make the changes, then restart X. If it screws up, then replace your xorg.conf with the .bak, and we'll go another route.
[04:02] <elpargo> Flannel: oh sorry so much stuff in this channel...
[04:02] <Flannel> hans0lo: which kernel are you using?
[04:02] <snide> ls -l
[04:02] <snide> rofl lol
[04:02] <hans0lo> Flannel: Unbuntu-102 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:02] <snide> bad habit
[04:03] <snide> lol .
[04:03] <elpargo> phaidros: r u register, send me a private
[04:03] <hans0lo> Flannel: my guess is that this isn't 64-bit?
[04:03] <Flannel> hans0lo: then you're using a 32bit system. correct
[04:03] <hans0lo> Flannel: do I just upgrade my kernel to be at 64-bit?
[04:03] <Flannel> hans0lo: no, unfortunately switching between 32 and 64 bit requires a reinstall
[04:04] <Trini_Man> i messed up my sound card settings how do i fix back the 5.1
[04:04] <Trini_Man> ALSA
[04:04] <deafboy> can anyone help me with an ntfs resize issue?
[04:04] <hans0lo> Flannel: ok, thanks
[04:04] <Gambit> Would anyone have any idea why I can't dial-up through my modem in Linux?  Is there a command I could use because I cannot find it graphically?
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> Gambit: gnome-ppp is nice
[04:04] <Judicata> deafboy: please ask the question, and hopefully someone will know the answer and jump in.
[04:05] <iain> How do I install ubuntu yet preserve my /home partition's data?
[04:05] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[04:05] <mataks> how to activate back up file like i have a back up on xorg.conf and i screw up and now i want to use the back up one.. help pls.
[04:05] <SilentDis> iain, is /home on a seperate partition?
[04:05] <Gambit> create a new partition?
[04:05] <what_if> ubotu: would you know how to troubleshoot a binary nvidia driver ?
[04:05] <iain> SilentDis: It is.
[04:05] <Judicata> mataks: what is the name of the backup?
[04:05] <deafboy> Judicata: Inside Gparted the ntfs partition shows in correct usage after an attempt to resize
[04:05] <tommyv> elpargo or anyoine else: i have a whole folder that that permissions are set to user "tommyvyo", how can i change them so that user "tomvendetta" can access them? i know you use chown but thats all
[04:06] <mataks> Judicata  xorg.conf_backup
[04:06] <Pr0ph3t> SilentDis do you know if the version amd64 has problems with new softwares? For examples, the gdesklets, firefox 2, nvidia drives, etc
[04:06] <SilentDis> iain, easy.  during the install, choose 'custom' from the 'where to install' screen, skip through the gparted list, and just assign things.  choose not to format /home, of course :)
[04:06] <webmaren> Judicata: thanks it worked
[04:06] <Judicata> deafboy: sorry, can't help on this one - address the question to the channel as a whole, and hopefully someone else does.
[04:06] <Judicata> webmaren: fantastic.
[04:06] <dm> tommyv do a sudo nautilus and change it the GUI way?
[04:06] <SilentDis> Pr0ph3t, no i don't, sorry.  I don't have a 64-bit processor yet :P
[04:06] <deafboy> Anyone ever have issues resizing an ntfs partition?
[04:06] <iain> SilentDis: If I don't format /home, how will it know to use it as my /home mountpoint?
[04:06] <Pr0ph3t> SilentDis ok man :)
[04:06] <Trini_Man> how do i reset my sound card settings  ?
[04:07] <mataks> Judicata the name of the back up file is /etc/X11/xorg.cong_backup
[04:07] <sorl_> tommyv, chown -R tomvendetta /path/to/folder
[04:07] <Judicata> mataks: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:07] <mataks> Judicata ok done
[04:07] <mataks> what's next?
[04:07] <Judicata> mataks: I'm assuming that the backup file was in the same directory.
[04:07] <wastrel> iain:  iirc, the installer can let you select the partition to mount as home, and set it not to format that partition.
[04:07] <Judicata> mataks: that's it.
[04:07] <SilentDis> iain, on the last screen of setup, it'll give you a listing of where everything is going to install.  it'll give a list full of drop downs, where you can choose /home as a point, and assign it a device :)
[04:07] <mataks> yes it is in the same directory
[04:07] <wastrel> iain:  alternatively, you could just let it make a /home under  / and fix fstab post install to mount your home partition
[04:07] <iain> wastrel: Alright, that sounds like what I want.  Thanks.
[04:08] <_dd02_> Is there any way to run an iso file from a usb solution? Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to burn my file
[04:08] <Judicata> mataks: that's it. just restart.
[04:08] <iain> SilentDis: Is that the graphical or text installer?
[04:08] <mataks> dangit i can't still start x :( huhuhu im doomed ;(
[04:08] <SilentDis> iain, wastrel is correct as well.  either way works fine :)
[04:08] <SilentDis> iain, graphical installer, off the livecd
[04:08] <_dd02_> it's a 6.10 Edgy iso, I think I need to run it from startup right?
[04:08] <buena_swerte> _dd02_: can you clarify your question?
[04:08] <iain> SilentDis: Then I assume the graphical installer works now?  When I installed Dapper Drake, people told me the GUI installer was broken.
[04:09] <SilentDis> iain, i had no problems at all with Dapper or Edgy gui installer.  what issue were you having?
[04:09] <Judicata> mataks: what else did you do?
[04:09] <_dd02_> I have the iso file for 6.10 Edgy, but Linux doesn't want to burn it for an unknown reason, I was wondering if I could put it on a usb or something to execute the installer
[04:09] <iain> SilentDis: I forget, because it was many months ago.  I think it just crashed a lot.
[04:10] <buena_swerte> _dd02_: can you try and mount that iso and see if its a good one?
[04:10] <mataks> Judicata im trying to install compiz.. and i followed the ubuntguide. and edit some file
[04:10] <sorl_> _dd02_, tried cdrecord isofile.iso ?
[04:10] <mataks> help pls. :(
[04:10] <_dd02_> sorl Not yet, I just right clicked and tried Write to disc
[04:10] <Judicata> mataks: hmmm. Well, what kind of card do you have?
[04:11] <mataks> Judicata nvidia
[04:11] <SilentDis> iain, as I said... !worksforme...  so, give it a go, and if it does crash, drop in here from the livecd and ask, we can probably help get it fixed at least :)
[04:11] <deafboy> Does anyone know why gparted would show in correct partition usag?
[04:11] <buena_swerte> _dd02_:   mount -o loop /where/your/*.iso  /mnt
[04:11] <iain> SilentDis: No problemo :-)
[04:11] <sorl_> _dd02_, as buena_swerte said it might be a bad iso but cdrecord will probably tell you that
[04:11] <Judicata> mataks: did you install fglrx or some other driver?
[04:11] <riotkittie> sudo reboot
[04:11] <sorl_> yes loop mount it
[04:11] <CorpseFeeder> has anyone here tried the Turboprint commercial drivers with Canon Pixma iP3000 printer? I've tried all the other BJC-7000/BJC-800/Pixus iP3100 driver combos... none of those have been successful in a multi OS network environment. Turborpint seems to be the only avenue left open to me.
[04:11] <riotkittie> errr
[04:12] <mataks> Judicata maybe.. i just followed what's in the ubuntuguide.org.. can you check out for me please :(
[04:12] <Judicata> mataks: well, there are different guides for different cards. if you installed the wrong drivers it could have messed some things up.
[04:13] <mataks> Judicata i install for nvidia.. on how to install glz/compiz on nvidia
[04:13] <buena_swerte> CorpseFeeder: what happens when you use those drivers?
[04:13] <Judicata> mataks: ok, hold on.
[04:14] <mataks> Judicata ok
[04:14] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set bash to open a terminal in a new tab by defaul ?
[04:14] <CorpseFeeder> odd quirky things like wrong printing colours or sharing with XP OSes and not Mac OS X, not being able to use the paper cassette, etc... they all give partial support but none give full support.
[04:15] <Flannel> yellow: new tab?  I think that'd be a gnome-terminal setting, not a bash one.
[04:15] <_dd02_> well
[04:15] <deafboy> does anyone know how to make xgl use beryl by default ( i have beryl-manager in startup programs)
[04:16] <_dd02_> the whole reason I was trying to update to 6.10 was because I was told my gfx card might not be supported by the 6.06 kernel
[04:16] <Flannel> deafboy: #ubuntu-xgl is the place for XGL/Beryl support
[04:16] <deafboy> flannel: thank you
[04:16] <mataks> Judicata  xorg.conf is back to the previous settings. there was still 2 files i edited i think.. "thefuture" and for "GDM"
[04:16] <_dd02_> I currently have a X1900XT, but people have reported X1900's working, and I wouldn't think the XT would matter much
[04:16] <wastrel> what kernel is dapper running anymore anyway?
[04:17] <buena_swerte> CorpseFeeder: thats a network printer? it has its own print server or its attached to a pc and the pc acts as lpd print server?
[04:17] <Judicata> mataks: don't know about the future, but replace the gdm with the backup.
[04:17] <mataks> Judicata ok where can i fine the file for gdm?
[04:17] <Judicata> mataks: sudo cp /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom-backup /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[04:17] <Judicata> mataks: if you used those filenames, that should do it.
[04:17] <Prometheum> Does ubuntu store libraries in a nonstandard place? I have the latest versions of GTK and mesa installed, but many programs still don't realize this. is it a program path error, or a Ubuntu thing?
[04:18] <niru> hello all
[04:18] <Judicata> mataks: see if that works (it probably won't), and if it doesn't, we can try something else.
[04:18] <niru> I want to help in translation in hindi
[04:18] <mataks> Judicata ok wait
[04:18] <niru> I have already registered in ubuntu translation site
[04:18] <buena_swerte> _dd02_: did mounting the iso checked out okay?
[04:18] <niru> may I know who will give me work
[04:18] <_dd02_> it says I'd have to be logged in as root
[04:19] <Flannel> _dd02_: use sudo, ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[04:19] <Prometheum> Does ubuntu store libraries in a nonstandard place? I have the latest versions of GTK and mesa installed, but many programs still don't realize this. is it a program path error, or a Ubuntu thing?
[04:19] <buena_swerte> _dd02_: then logged in as root or sudo
[04:19] <_dd02_> ah
[04:19] <niru> did anybody get my point
[04:20] <Judicata> niru: this is mostly a help channel, so I don't think any of us are really sure.
[04:20] <CorpseFeeder> buena_swerte: it is printer connected to this ubuntu machine. it is shared with other PCs on the network.
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> niru: There's a translators mailing list and irc channel.
[04:20] <mataks> Judicata ok that was it i can. i make a backup file called that one but i can't still start X :|
[04:20] <niru> may I know the irc channel for ubuntu translators
[04:21] <Flannel> niru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslatingUbuntu
[04:21] <Judicata> mataks: ok, not surprising.
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> niru: #ubuntu-translators
[04:21] <Judicata> mataks: are you getting any error messages? or does it just not load?
[04:22] <buena_swerte> CorpseFeeder: you try it with it connected to the XP machine and use the some kind of LPD software for XP for sharing with OSX and or linux?
[04:22] <coach_z> can someone help me setup my ethernet card on a computer i just built and put linux on??? the last computer i put it on it jst worked, this time around i had no such luck
[04:22] <Prometheum> Does ubuntu store libraries in a nonstandard place? I have the latest versions of GTK and mesa installed, but many programs still don't realize this. is it a program path error, or a Ubuntu thing?
[04:22] <mataks> Judicata im having an error msg.. it says that parse error on "dri"
[04:22] <buena_swerte> coach_z: is it detected at all? check your dmesg
[04:22] <Ch1ppy> hey, if I have a usb device on Bus 001 Device 008 which file do I use to access that?
[04:22] <_dd02_> buena_swerte it seems to be fine
[04:23] <mataks> Judicata i think that's the one that's been commented but i already uncomment it. we change the file to the backup one right
[04:23] <mataks> Judicata but the error is still the same
[04:23] <mataks> maybe restart my pc :)
[04:23] <Judicata> mataks: ok. try this: sudo apt-get remove compiz compiz-gnome
[04:23] <buena_swerte> _dd02_: you burner is okay? maybe you need to burn at slower rate..like no faster than 4x ?
[04:23] <coach_z> buena_swerte: it is not detected at all, i looked in system>admin>networking and it only lists a 56K modem which i definately dont have
[04:23] <_dd02_> It didn't even start or give a %
[04:23] <Judicata> mataks: yes, restart, and see if it works.
[04:24] <mataks> ok
[04:24] <buena_swerte> coach_z: do a reboot, the bios has to detect it first before your os can
[04:24] <_dd02_> Eh, I'll be back later, I've got to grab a bite to eat, thanks for the help guys :)
[04:24] <mataks> Judicata wait for me please will you. i need yar help :)
[04:24] <mataks> brb
[04:25] <Judicata> mataks: I'll stick around while I can.
[04:25] <coach_z> buena_swerte: i have rebooted, ill do it again, i also have an issue with rebooting....i just a jumble of random letters or sometimes a black screen with 3 gray boxes instead of the standard ubuntu shutdown screen
[04:25] <CorpseFeeder> There is only one machine running XP, it is hardly ever turned on... and I could never get the Macs to print to it while it was connected to the XP. However it did work when it was connected to a Mac, and I could print from XP to the printer on the Mac, but I recently discovered no black ink was ever being used on print jobs from the network... hence the reason why I am now trying to make it work from a Linux machine. The black 
[04:26] <ardya> hi folks
[04:26] <ardya> in xubuntu, why won't xfce and gnome use a virtual desktop, while wmaker and fluxbox will?
[04:27] <host`> is there something I need to do special to have a usb plugnplay game controller recognized
[04:27] <|thunder> can I be a member of more than one group ?
[04:27] <buena_swerte> CorpseFeeder: okay ...good luck..am trying a diferent printer myself, but its mainframe to xp attached printer am trying to understand
[04:27] <buena_swerte> |thunder: yeah, why not?
[04:27] <mataks> Judicata dude.. weeeeee i can start x now
[04:27] <mataks> :)
[04:28] <|thunder> buena_swerte; cant seem to do it with the gnome gui user tool.
[04:28] <Judicata> mataks: fantastic
[04:28] <mataks> Judicata the problem was on the last line i edited on glx :)
[04:28] <mataks> phew
[04:28] <mataks> that was close :)
[04:28] <elpargo> which firefox video plugin works on gentoo?
[04:28] <elpargo> ups sorry
[04:28] <buena_swerte> |thunder: am not much of a gui user, but you can try doing it manually, edit /etc/group and add your user to the group you like
[04:28] <elpargo> s/gentoo/ubuntu
[04:28] <Judicata> mataks: if you want eye candy, try beryl/AIGLX instead of XGL and compiz.
[04:29] <|thunder> buena_swerte; thank you sir   :)
[04:29] <mataks> Judicata i already have beryl. but i don't know how to use it. how?
[04:29] <buena_swerte> |thunder: no sweat
[04:30] <elpargo> mataks: what video card u have?
[04:30] <Judicata> mataks: go through the guide (its on the same page, just further down). Also know that all that stuff is unstable, and you need to make sure that you can retrace your steps if you need to.
[04:30] <olympionex> anybody know where the source files for the /cow and /rofs are located on edgy?
[04:30] <mataks> Judicata ok
[04:30] <mataks> elpargo nvidia
[04:31] <elpargo> mataks: then AIGLX is not good for you, look for nvidia-driver stuff, it's on the beryl wiki
[04:31] <deemstone> Any Chinese men there?
[04:31] <wastrel> try #ubuntu-cn
[04:31] <coach_z> buena_swerte: a restart didnt help at all, still not recognizing my ethernet card
[04:31] <mataks> elpargo where can i fine the beryl wiki? im just new to linux :|
[04:32] <deemstone> My English is not good.Can you understand me?
[04:32] <buena_swerte> coach_z: nothing on dmesg to tell you it is detected? if not, you may need to get a new card
[04:32] <Pobega> !beryl
[04:32] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:32] <Pobega> So try somewhere at http://beryl-project.org/ for the wiki mataks
[04:32] <karolina> como puedo entrar a espaol?
[04:32] <Judicata> elpargo: last I checked, AIGLX worked well with nvidia cards, what'd I miss?
[04:32] <coach_z> buena_swerte: it is onthe motherboard.....and it was workingn when i had XP installed on this computer about 35 minutes ago
[04:33] <Pobega> !spanish
[04:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:33] <ardya> in xubuntu, why won't xfce and gnome use a virtual desktop, while wmaker and fluxbox will?
[04:33] <coach_z> still works if i boot in XP
[04:33] <karolina> thnks
[04:33] <buena_swerte> coach_z: you meant an integrated to the mobo?
[04:33] <elpargo> Judicata: nvidia is better now
[04:34] <coach_z> buena_swerte: yea it is integrated
[04:34] <elpargo> Judicata: they implemented the whole pixel mapping thing inside their driver and its supposed to be super fast
[04:34] <deemstone> Nobody in     
[04:34] <buena_swerte> coach_z: thats odd, that it is not even detected
[04:34] <Pobega> ardya: What do you mean by use a virtual desktop? Xfce and Gnome both supports virtual desktops
[04:34] <deafboy> elpargo: my buddy got it fixed
[04:34] <deafboy> elpargo: he just tried to resize again and it fixed itself
[04:34] <|thunder> Anyone know a way to repair egdy boot sector ? I need it to point at /dev/hdd2
[04:35] <ardya> mutiple desktops != virtual desktops, a virtual desktop is one thats size is larger than the viewable area of your screen
[04:35] <Pobega> |thunder: Edit your /etc/fstab file, if you're trying to do what I think you are.
[04:35] <elpargo> deafboy: ahhh so #1 :P
[04:35] <deafboy> elpargo: number 1?
[04:36] <mataks> i have beryl how to use this ?
[04:36] <deemstone> Why  I can`t get any response after so long time!!!!
[04:36] <cmh> i'm having a problem with my desktop, i can't see the top bar of my windows after i installed beryl and emerald. the Beryl desktop effects works fine, can't see the top bar though. any suggestions?
[04:36] <deafboy> elpargo: my guess is the partitoining went correctly it just didn't update some index?
[04:36] <elpargo> deafboy: that's the first thing in my list of possible suggestins
[04:36] <Pobega> ardya: Oh, I've always thought virtual desktops meant multiple (Which it does in most cases :P). I don't know, maybe it's just not a feature in those two window managers?
[04:36] <|thunder> Pobega; Im getting Grub Error 21. Which means it cant find /boot  ,   I dont think it knows to look in /dev/hdd2/boot
[04:36] <elpargo> mataks: just start playing with it
[04:36] <ardya> *sigh*
[04:36] <elpargo> mataks: you will learn something new everyday
[04:36] <deafboy> damit the xgl forum is dead
[04:36] <deemstone> 
[04:37] <fickleflame> \\killerhot
[04:37] <mataks> elpargo i tried but i can't see any changes when i click on something.. hheheh :)
[04:37] <elpargo> deafboy: yea software sometimes is weird
[04:37] <Pobega> |thunder: Well hdd2 is your / folder?
[04:37] <elpargo> deafboy: xgl? I never knew there was one
[04:37] <elpargo> mataks: ahhh then maybe it's not on
[04:37] <elpargo> mataks: ps -ef | grep gnome-session
[04:38] <mataks> k wait
[04:38] <elpargo> mataks: did you enable the backend?
[04:38] <|thunder> Pobega; yes. /dev/hdd2 is my / folder
[04:38] <mataks> elpargo don't know.. i think not.. how?
[04:38] <|thunder> Pobega; which is where my /boot lives
[04:38] <mataks> wait i'll move to xchat. i can't copy and paste. hehe
[04:38] <deafboy> elpargo: do you know how to get beryl the default manager when i load xgl, i have beryl-manager in startup programs :(
[04:39] <Pobega> |thunder: Well, what *is* in your /etc/fstab. Paste it to http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[04:39] <elpargo> mataks: check out the beryl wiki it tells you what you need to add to your xorg.conf
[04:39] <Flannel> !cn | deafboy
[04:39] <ubotu> deafboy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:39] <Flannel> er
[04:39] <Flannel> !cn | deemstone
[04:39] <ubotu> deemstone: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:39] <deafboy> Flannel: that channel is dead
[04:40] <elpargo> deafboy: not really I haven't install that in ubuntu got less then 2 days with it on my machine, although I was/am very close with it on gentoo
[04:40] <mataks> elpargo: what the use of ps -es | grep gnome session?
[04:40] <elpargo> deafboy: last time I check there was a command you ran (on the beryl wiki) that will change it permanently
[04:40] <elpargo> mataks: pas -ef | gnome-session, it will tell you if the default metacity is running
[04:41] <mataks> ok
[04:41] <Pelo> anyone know how I can restart udev without restarting the comp or restarting X ?
[04:41] <mataks> how will i know? there's 5 in here running
[04:41] <elpargo> ahhh no sorry it's ps -ef | grep metacity
[04:41] <mataks> ok
[04:41] <karolina> can some1 tell me what happend with my inittab file
[04:41] <karolina> i can not see any text
[04:41] <elpargo> Pelo: i don't think that's a good idea
[04:42] <Flannel> karolina: which ubuntu are you running? edgy? dapper?
[04:42] <Pelo> elpargo,  I am debugging a rule,  it would be quicker
[04:42] <karolina> edgy
[04:42] <Flannel> karolina: edgy uses upstart, a replacement for the init V system
[04:42] <karolina> tahnks 4flannel
[04:42] <elpargo> Pelo: yup but if something doesn't loads it will hand your machine /etc/init.d/udev restart
[04:43] <roostishaw> hello, when will the next version of ubuntu come out?
[04:43] <gu014> I am trying to configure twinview using the nvidia beta driver.  nvidia settings sees both monitors but when i apply the settings only the first monitor receives a display.  the resolution seems that is is spanning to another desktop, but the 2nd monitor does not receive a signal. would anyone be able to help me out?
[04:43] <elpargo> roostishaw: every 6months
[04:43] <karolina> so what can i do?
[04:43] <Flannel> roostishaw: 7.04, will come out in 2007, in April (4)
[04:43] <elpargo> so 6.10 + 6 = 7.04
[04:43] <gu014> I am trying to configure twinview using the nvidia beta driver.  nvidia settings sees both monitors but when i apply the settings only the first monitor receives a display.  the resolution seems that is is spanning to another desktop, but the 2nd monitor does not receive a signal. would anyone be able to help me out?
[04:43] <roostishaw> Flannel: thanks
[04:43] <Pelo> elpargo,  I only made the one rule,  It's not like I have a laod of stuff to resinstall
[04:43] <Flannel> karolina: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ has documentation
[04:44] <roostishaw> and, will upgrading be as easy as before? (no partitioning or scary things) :D
[04:44] <Flannel> karolina: you can also see #upstart
[04:44] <elpargo> Pelo: then run it
[04:44] <Flannel> roostishaw: correct.  As always
[04:44] <Pelo> ...
[04:44] <roostishaw> Flannel: ok, thank you
[04:44] <elpargo> OMG a root :p
[04:44] <KEAL> "while working on ubuntu, you hardly notice the diamond smuggling task in the background."
[04:44] <elpargo> Pelo: since you didn't finish reading my last message here it is again /etc/init.d/udev restart
[04:45] <Pelo> elpargo,  I missread sorry
[04:45] <Jedrick> elpargo: metacity default is 0
[04:46] <elpargo> Jedrick: huh?
[04:46] <matakss> elpargo: metacity default is 0 what does that mean/
[04:47] <elpargo> matakss: no idea where ur reading that
[04:47] <matakss> got dc
[04:47] <olympionex> what is the filesystem type for the initrd on the livecd?  I've tried ext2, ext3, ...
[04:48] <Flannel> olympionex: squashfs you mean?
[04:48] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with restoring my usplash image??
[04:48] <torist> anyone know how to fix this X11 / SSH problem: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'gaim' lost its connection to the display :10.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application.
[04:48] <olympionex> flannel: is the ramdisk also in squashfs?
[04:49] <Pobega> h3h_timo: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Different_usplash
[04:49] <h3h_timo> thanks Pobega
[04:50] <olympionex> flannel: i unzipped the initrd.gz and I'm trying to mount it, but it requests a filesystem type.  -t squashfs didn't work either
[04:50] <elpargo> matakss: again please check the beryl wiki you need to enable either nvidia, xgl or aiglx on your xorg.conf that's most likely what is happening
[04:50] <Flannel> olympionex: what are you trying to do?
[04:51] <olympionex> flannel: i'm trying to see what is in the ramdisk.  I'm trying to figure out what is overwriting my configuration files when the livecd boots up
[04:53] <torist> can someone help me with my SSH / X11 problem?
[04:53] <torist> the error is: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'gaim' lost its connection to the display :10.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application. <-- this is after sudo ssh -X (or -Y) user@host
[04:53] <host`> if I plug in a usb controller, what should it be mounted as, dmesg says input: Jess Tech GGE909 PC Recoil Pad as /class/input/input3
[04:54] <Tann> torist: i'd help you but i don't know myself
[04:54] <Tann> torist: sorry
[04:55] <torist> thanks anyway Tann
[04:55] <soblue> hi, does anybody know if it's possible to use SVG graphics in LaTeX?
[04:55] <mataksss> elpargo:  i get it from ps -ef | grep metacity
[04:55] <BradonH> just looking for some feedback on an idea i had. launchpad is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/voip-tech-support
[04:56] <adamwest> hey guys, how can i resize the default ext3 partition (that linux is currently using)?
[04:56] <elpargo> adamwest: gparted
[04:56] <HymnToLife> adamwest, with GPParted, from a Live CD
[04:56] <elpargo> HymnToLife: huh?
[04:57] <elpargo> adamwest: just apt-get install gparted
[04:57] <Tann> adamwest: it is mostly self explanitory in GParted
[04:57] <HymnToLife> elpargo, to resize the partition Linux is currently using ?
[04:57] <adamwest> never mind guys, ill just mount it to /home or smtng
[04:57] <HymnToLife> that sounds like a dangerous thing to me
[04:57] <adamwest> why?
[04:57] <HymnToLife> I was talikg to elpargo
[04:57] <Pobega> You can't use apt-get install gparted to resize the current partition, since it's already mounted. You'd have to do it off of a LiveCD (@adamwest)
[04:57] <Pelo> elpargo,  do you know anything about makeing udev rules ?
[04:57] <elpargo> HymnToLife: umm yea ur right
[04:57] <Dagon> Where can I find out where mysql installs its directories
[04:58] <Tann> adamwest: if you make a mistake, you could ruin your os
[04:58] <elpargo> adamwest: but yes resizing is dangerous
[04:58] <elpargo> Pelo: not really
[04:58] <elpargo> BradonH: it's call skype, also irc or even msn
[04:59] <elpargo> BradonH: why yet another network?
[04:59] <soblue> again I ask, does anybody know if it's possible to use an SVG image in a LaTeX file? I can convert it to PNG and use that, but it doesn't scale well cuz PNG is a bitmap format
[04:59] <Tann> soblue: hold on let me se
[04:59] <elpargo> Pelo: i know usb's are a pain and you can never be sure that the same device will get the same /dev maybe that's what is failling you
[04:59] <Flannel> soblue: I believe you'll need to convert to eps
[05:00] <olympionex> flannel: do you know if the initrd is the source of the /rofs branch of the root union filesystem?
[05:00] <soblue> Flannel: I tried that and it seemed to work except the image came up blank when I viewed the PDF put out by pdflatex
[05:00] <Pelo> elpargo,  thanks anyway
[05:00] <BradonH> elpargo- how would you go about getting help on irc or skype- newbies wont have a clue. Not necessarily make another program, but set up an irc or voip so its easy for them to connect and get help
[05:01] <elpargo> soblue: why will you want SVG as input?
[05:01] <soblue> elpargo: I'm using Inkscape
[05:01] <Tann> soblue: this looks like it might help... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/f96177a038d709/5f742931cd67031f?lnk=st&q=is+it+possible+to+use+an+SVG+image+in+a+LaTeX+file%3F&rnum=1&hl=en#5f742931cd67031f
[05:03] <elpargo> BradonH: you start saying client by client I though you said program. as for IRC i believe we are there, just need a big link saying install gnome-xchat it will default to getting to ubuntu's IRC, as for the voip who will be there to help, people getting pay?
[05:03] <Flannel> BradonH: this actually is offtopic for this channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for this.  And I'll give you some links there
[05:03] <blade> ok...lets try this again....
[05:03] <blade> Does anyone here know how to change the usplash screen in dapper?
[05:03] <soblue> thanks Tann, I'll read that and come back later.
[05:03] <mataksss> i need help i can't install any application on wine
[05:03] <HymnToLife> !usplash
[05:03] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:03] <elpargo> blade: you mean grub ?
[05:04] <Trini_Man> does anyone know how to get sound in the App called  "tvtime"
[05:04] <HymnToLife> elpargo, nope, usplash is the artwork that appears during bootup (with UBuntu logo by default)
[05:04] <blade> elpargo> the one where it has the ubuntu logo and is scrolling through the list of things it is starting up or shutting down..
[05:04] <elpargo> HymnToLife: ohh you made up a new name for that, nice
[05:05] <blade> i have found and downloaded a usplash i want to use...
[05:05] <HymnToLife> !usplash | blade
[05:05] <ubotu> blade: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:05] <elpargo> blade: did you saw the line by ubotu
[05:05] <blade> i have followed the instructions found at the link ubotu just gave me...
[05:05] <HymnToLife> I guess *I* didn't make up the name, then...
[05:05] <blade> and all i get is a blank screen when i boot up...nothign no original one...no new one...
[05:06] <elpargo> HymnToLife: you as in ubuntu-people
[05:07] <blade> yes i saw the link ubotu posted...
[05:07] <elpargo> wow at last this channel stop for a min
[05:07] <blade> i have used that...all it does is get rid of the default usplash...and put a blank page...
[05:07] <elpargo> s/dats/days
[05:08] <Pobega> blade: Maybe the usplash your using is corrupt or isn't correctly put together. If it isn't done right, it won't display at all
[05:08] <blade> it was downloaded from gnome-look.org....and others have commented on how great it works...so i would tend to believe it is not corrupted...
[05:08] <blade> but i could be wrong...
[05:08] <blade> any other ideas?
[05:09] <Pobega> gnome-look.org has usplashes?
[05:09] <blade> yes
[05:09] <elpargo> dammit i need to concentrate
[05:09] <elpargo> see ya later
[05:10] <Pobega> Oh, you're right, I never noticed it before. Well then, I'm all out of ideas (Never did a custom usplash before)
[05:10] <blade> damn...lol
[05:10] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set bash to open a terminal in a new tab by defaul ?
[05:10] <blade> i was hoping you'd have another idea
[05:11] <cryosphere> hello, if someone want to help me figure out why I can't connect to the internet after installing xubuntu, please look at http://pastebin.com/864675
[05:11] <Pobega> If I've never done one before I can't have another idea, sorry.
[05:11] <blade> not your fault...thanks for trying..
[05:11] <CakeProphet> hrm... according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/edgy I should use sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper.utils.1.8
[05:11] <CakeProphet> but... according to bash, that package doesn't exist.
[05:11] <Flannel> yellow: I imagine you want to check out gnome-terminal's settings, since bash itself doesn't have tabs.
[05:11] <matthew1429> how do you install a shell script or does anyone have a good link to learn this?
[05:11] <matthew1429> I'm trying to install streamripper
[05:11] <cryosphere> losing my mind
[05:12] <blade> this is the 4th time iv come in here today to ask about it...and thats the first idea anyones given me...lol
[05:12] <Flannel> CakeProphet: it's ndiswrapper-utils
[05:12] <yellow> Flannel, by bash i was refering to the normal terminal included in ubuntu
[05:12] <CakeProphet> er... yeah
[05:12] <Flannel> CakeProphet: er, sorry, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[05:12] <Flannel> yellow: that's "gnome-terminal" not bash, and you'll have to check it's settings.
[05:12] <yellow> where Flannel  ?
[05:12] <CakeProphet> flannel, I meant with the hyphens (heh... a habit from dot notation in certain OO languages)
[05:13] <Flannel> CakeProphet: er, it's in main, so you don't need to add any other repostories or nything, does it really not exist?  (apt-cache search ndiswrapper-utils-1.8)
[05:13] <matthew1429> does anyone record streaming internet radio?
[05:13] <matthew1429> if so what program do you use?
[05:14] <matthew1429> I'm trying to install streamripper
[05:14] <CakeProphet> Flannel,  well... I can't do that readily... I'm in Windows.
[05:14] <Flannel> yellow: I blieve you can right click to get an options/settings menu, but it's been a while since I've had a GUI.
[05:14] <matthew1429> but tgz didnt make an easy solution for me
[05:14] <infurno_> is it possible to install ubuntu to an external usb drive and have it work on all hardware conigurations? I can manage to install it to a usb drive and configure the bootloader to boot from a specific drive letter but it only works on some computers
[05:14] <Flannel> CakeProphet: well, it does exist ;)  Oh.  You don't have internet on that computer, right?
[05:14] <CakeProphet> I've been trying to get my USB adapter to work through ndiswrapper... because the makers of the adapter were bastards and only included a driver that plays nice with Windows
[05:14] <Flannel> CakeProphet: do you have a liveCD? or an AlternateCD?
[05:14] <yellow> Flannel, right click on the desktop ?
[05:14] <Flannel> yellow: no, the terminal window
[05:15] <CakeProphet> Flannel,  I've still got the boot CD...
[05:15] <CakeProphet> not sure why I'd use it though
[05:15] <matthew1429> can anyone see my texty?
[05:15] <CakeProphet> yah
[05:15] <Flannel> CakeProphet: Which CD?  the Desktop one? or the Alternate? (GUI or text based install?)
[05:15] <matthew1429> thx
[05:16] <CakeProphet> Flannel,  hrm... it's the kubuntu CD image-burnt-to-a-disk-that-makes-a-GUI-pop-up-to-try-out-the-distro CD...
[05:16] <CakeProphet> ...heh
[05:16] <beuno> hi, I changed my "/etc/network/interfaces" file quite a bit, and now my wireless is gone, any ideas of how I can regenerate that file?
[05:16] <yellow> Flannel,  that doesn't work
[05:16] <Flannel> CakeProphet: Kubuntu Desktop CD then.
[05:16] <Trini_Man> anyone know how to get the sound working on tvtime ?
[05:17] <CakeProphet> matthew1429,  you can't really "install" shell scripts
[05:17] <CakeProphet> per se
[05:18] <CakeProphet> you just run them.
[05:19] <CakeProphet> Flannel,  it's the same computer I'm using right now.
[05:19] <Flannel> CakeProphet: alright, what you need to do is use apt-cdrom to add your CD as a repository (insert the CD after booting to the harddrive), then once you've added it, that package will be in your repositories
[05:19] <CakeProphet> it's dual boot
[05:19] <soblue> I thought I'd come back and tell you all that I figured out my problem. EPS was not working because I was trying to create a PDF file, and I think PDF is a subset of PostScript, isn't it? If so, there's just no way it could render the graphics.
[05:19] <naut> Does anybody here have expereience with egroupware on ubuntu?
[05:19] <CakeProphet> Flannel,  aha!
[05:20] <soblue> So Flannel was right, thanks! :)
[05:20] <CakeProphet> thanks a ton.
[05:20] <wilsonad> beuno: you could change the file to use dhcp, type in the following "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[05:20] <CakeProphet> I'll be back in a bit if it works properly. :D
[05:20] <beuno> wilsonad, how do I know which ones are detected?
[05:21] <Flannel> soblue: no, PS and PDFs are different, related though.
[05:22] <soblue> Flannel, PDF isn't a subset of PS?
[05:22] <beuno> I'm getting this:     ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:22] <wilsonad> beuno: I think you type command "ifconfig" in your terminal and it lists your connected network interfaces.
[05:22] <soblue> I thought I'd read somewhere that it was.
[05:22] <ToHellWithGA> i heard somebody needed LaTeX help.  i am LaTeX help if #latex isn't helping
[05:23] <soblue> ToHellWithGA: It was me, but I was able to fix my problem already with some jarring of my memory by Flannel.
[05:24] <ToHellWithGA> soblue: did you try #latex?
[05:24] <soblue> No, I haven't been there
[05:24] <ToHellWithGA> i always go there first.  #latex on this network, freenode, is pretty handy
[05:24] <matthew1429> does anyone use vlc to record streaming radio?
[05:25] <krang> Hey, anyone here know how to stop log rotation? I really don't want it
[05:26] <soblue> I had a problem with log rotation the other day. I had misconfigured my plugin folder and was getting several warnings every time I started apace. My log file grew to several MB. I don't know how to prevent log rotation, though.
[05:26] <buena_swerte> edit /etc/logrotate.conf
[05:28] <wilsonad> beuno: Sorry beuno, I was looking up ubuntuforums. I can't find out how to fix your problem.
[05:28] <bwlang> soblue: man logrotate.conf... but it sounds to me like you really want to decrease what gets logged instead
[05:29] <soblue> bwlang: The problem I had's already been fixed. I fixed the errant config and rotated my logs out. It's krang who is having the problem now
[05:29] <beuno> I'm sure someone must of screwed with there interfaces file and had to regenerate...
[05:30] <Nobody2500> Hi folks - newest newb her
[05:30] <krang> soblue: well, I just found out what logrotate is, which is a start :-)
[05:30] <beuno> thanks anywat wilsonad
[05:30] <krang> Nobody2500: avast, enjoy the agony and ecstasy of the new.
[05:31] <roy> Does anyone have experience in loading Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT Drivers ?
[05:31] <Nobody2500> Lots of fun - can I post a few questions here - or is there a formal way I should know abou
[05:31] <Flannel> !ask | Nobody2500
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> Ethereal created this hexdump file and I need the contents
[05:32] <Flannel> eh.  He left.
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> e.g.
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> I need this:
[05:32] <Nobody2500> I want to get Ztree running and I get a few dependency issues
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> 00000000  48 54 54 50 2f 31 2e 31  20 32 30 30 20 4f 4b 0d HTTP/1.1  200 OK.
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> to become just plain
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> HTTP/1.1  200 OK\r
[05:32] <Nobody2500> Oops - forgot to mention - just installed the latest server version
[05:33] <pixelmonkey> anyone know a tool I can use to copy messages out of an mbox file that were sent in the last month
[05:33] <krang> Nobody2500: The best thing to do is just ask. Saying hi and asking to ask are generally considered a waste of attentional bandwidth :-)
[05:33] <Nobody2500> I'll settle for Midnight commander, but the console screen is crapy
[05:34] <roy> Anybody with Nvidia Driver experience ???
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> but the problem is
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> There are lines like this
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> 00001DB6  91 40 31 9a 9c 16 e3 2f  78 f1 36 8c 50 c6 b7 9d .@1..../ x.6.P...
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> AND lines like this
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> 00001DC6  90 49 5f f6                                      .I_.
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> so I can't just use a Perl script and strip out those 32 hex chars
[05:35] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: please stop using your enter key as punctuation
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> there are lines that don't HAVE 32 hex chars.
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> Flannel, sorry is that not permitted here?
[05:35] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: there's 900 people, lines scroll plenty fast without people using "enter" as commas ;)
[05:36] <Nobody2500> Can the server version have a tiny GUI installed that can be just used when I want? I did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop install and it took over.
[05:36] <AWOSLappy> hehe okay...I forgot about that.  :D  been a while since I've been here
[05:36] <Flannel> Nobody2500: sure.  install something real lightweight, like fluxbox, then just start it whenever you want it
[05:36] <AWOSLappy> Flannel, since I have your attention anyways, do you have a solution to my problem?  Or should I go to like #perl or is there another channel?
[05:36] <roy> Nvidia Driver experience  Anyone ??? :-!
[05:37] <krang> Does anyone here know the difference between /etc/logrotate.conf and the files in /etc/logrotate.d/ ? It appears that the cron job only runs logrotate with the .conf file
[05:37] <blade> anybody know how to decompile a '.so' file?
[05:38] <soblue> AWOSLappy: I have an idea. Since there's always the same number of CHARACTERS (including spaces) before the data you want, why don't you just strip off that many characters?
[05:38] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: #perl would be a good choice, #ubuntu-offtopic is also equally suitable
[05:38] <host`> m&m++
[05:38] <host`> m and m++
[05:39] <host`> er.., wrong channel
[05:39] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: you'd probably do best stripping out any `[a-f0-9] {2} `
[05:39] <snide> !dvdrip
[05:39] <ubotwo> dvdrip - perl front end for transcode - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[05:39] <roy> Nvidia Driver experience anyone ??? :(
[05:39] <frogzoo> !nvidia | roy
[05:39] <ubotwo> roy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <soblue> Flannel: Except that would strip out things like #ABCDEF too
[05:40] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: just, any byte with a space after it.  Although I suppose you'd have an issue if your text was literally "two hex chars and a space"
[05:40] <blade> i take that as a no?
[05:40] <roy> frogzoo. Do you have experience installing nvidia drivers. I have having huge problems.
[05:40] <_Adramelech_> !ask | roy
[05:40] <ubotwo> roy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:41] <Flannel> soblue: no, you include the space in the regexp.  It'd only take out likes that were "AB " Of course, you'd have to cap the former regexp at what, 16?  Oh, I guess two pairs of eight, with the extra space.
[05:41] <roy> ubotwo. I have tried all that and it doesn't work.
[05:41] <ubotwo> roy: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
[05:41] <AWOSLappy> Flannel I think so, I'm not sure
[05:41] <frogzoo> !doesn't work | roy
[05:41] <ubotwo> roy: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:42] <_Adramelech_> blade:whats your problem?
[05:42] <soblue> Flannel, yeah, I thought of that after I posted previous, but some web designers are sloppy and might have <font color="#ABCDEF "> (note the space after the hex) or something like that
[05:42] <blade> i have a usplash screen i want to use, but it wont work...i believe there may be an issue with it...i am looking for a way to 'decompile' the .so file, so i can edit it..
[05:43] <Flannel> soblue: I said two hex chars, obviously that particular regexp would require making sure it was simply two, and not any previous ones, either reverse or foreward lookaheads would accomplish that.
[05:43] <roy> ubotwo and frogzoo. I have used the instructions contained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto to the letter several times. It just locks me out of X and I have to rewrite the xconf to vesa to get back in.
[05:43] <soblue> Flannel: I didn't think of that. Good point.
[05:43] <ubotwo> roy: Error: "and" is not a valid command.
[05:43] <_Adramelech_> blade: your programming and your are trying to usa a usplash but theres problem with your program?
[05:44] <AWOSLappy> Flannel, soblue, it isn't an HTML document I'm parsing, it's a literal file, think ISO file, I'm stripping out
[05:44] <professor> hey peeps
[05:44] <Gun_Smoke> anyone use Fluxbox?
[05:44] <blade> i downloaded a usplash to use..but it wont work...i downloaded another, and it works fine..this leads me to believe there is something wrong with the first...i want to edit it, but need to decompile the .so file first..
[05:45] <Flannel> AWOSLappy: right, but there are strings in regular files as well, and normal other bytes, etc.  You might instead look into ethereal about how to just output the contents of a file, which I do believe is doable.
[05:45] <professor> I am trying to get wine working, but when I am loading in a game it says please insert next disc, when I do that, I put the path in the line, and it does not reconize it, anyone have a clue about WINE!
[05:45] <AWOSLappy> Flannel I already tried that
[05:46] <_Adramelech_> blade: can i see where you get them from?
[05:46] <blade> gnome-look.org
[05:46] <frogzoo> professor: which game? usually it's easier to copy all files onto hard disk & run wine setup.exe that way
[05:46] <Feengur> hmmm
[05:46] <_Adramelech_> blade: so files are libraries
[05:46] <frogzoo> !appdb | professor
[05:46] <ubotwo> professor: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:46] <Feengur> is anyone else having issues with the paste bin atm?
[05:46] <roy> frogzoo. Have used the instructions contained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto to the letter several times. It just locks me out of X.have to rewrite the xconf to vesa to get back in.
[05:46] <AWOSLappy> perl -pe '($_)=(/^[a-f0-9] {2}(.{56})/)' hexdump > hexdump-with-no-ascii
[05:46] <AWOSLappy> ^ This worked
[05:47] <professor> I have tried to run jedi knight
[05:47] <professor> and delta force
[05:47] <blade> the one that wont work is : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=50468
[05:47] <AWOSLappy> perl -pe 's/^[A-F0-9] {6}//g;' hexdump-with-no-ascii > hexdump-with-no-linenums
[05:47] <AWOSLappy> ^ This didn't work
[05:47] <AWOSLappy> I think I'll go to #perl now :)
[05:47] <blade> the one that did work is: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=39009
[05:47] <roy> frogzoo. Why is installing nvidia drivers so difficult ?
[05:47] <Flannel> professor: #winehq may be of assistance
[05:47] <_Adramelech_> blade: one sec
[05:48] <bwlang> i'm a bit bored waiting for my program to run... what's a fun game?
[05:48] <professor> going there now
[05:48] <frogzoo> roy - there's 900 people in here, someone probably has experience with this, but without an accurate description of what's wrong, noone will help you
[05:48] <soblue> I think I'll just go now. Bye Flannel, thanks for helping me out earlier.
[05:48] <frogzoo> bwlang: quake III
[05:48] <frogzoo> bwlang: maelstrom if you're really bored
[05:49] <_Adramelech_> blade: nise usplash =)
[05:49] <Byan> where is that page to install nvidia drivers
[05:49] <Byan> I am gonna try to install it on my server...
[05:49] <blade> i agree...thats why i want to use it...butit wont work...
[05:49] <bwlang> frogzoo: i only see quake2 ... but i think maelstrom is more my speed.
[05:49] <_Adramelech_> blade: any error message?
[05:49] <blade> any ideas on why the fingerprint one wont work?
[05:50] <blade> no...just give me a blank screen
[05:50] <blade> gets rid of the default usplash...and all i have is blackness
[05:50] <_Adramelech_> blade: did you compiled from source?
[05:50] <frogzoo> bwlang: quake3/4 are doable, just no in the repos
[05:50] <Feengur> anyone else having problems with the paste bin?
[05:50] <blade> no, i downloaded the compiled versions of both...
[05:50] <blade> one worked, the other didnt..
[05:51] <roy> frogzoo. Understand, but how much clearer can I make it ? I have followed the detailed instructions for installing nvidia drivers very precisely. When the system reboots. X will not load. All I get is the prompt. I am new to Linux and need some straightforward answers. If I was an expert I would not be here asking questions.
[05:51] <Feengur> roy
[05:51] <Feengur> check your msgs
[05:51] <_Adramelech_> blade: your rsolution?
[05:51] <blade> 1024x768
[05:51] <roy> Feengur. Yes
[05:51] <bwlang> frogzoo: whoa - holy old style mac ui... fun - thanks
[05:51] <blade> which is what the fingerprint one says it is for..
[05:52] <blade> doesnt it?
[05:52] <_Adramelech_> blade yes
[05:52] <frogzoo> bwlang: enjoy
[05:52] <_Adramelech_> blade: added the vga line to grub?
[05:52] <blade> yes
[05:52] <blade> tried each different resolution, just to be sure
[05:53] <_Adramelech_> blade: maybe compiling fro source, it says it was compiled originally for 64
[05:53] <Feengur> roy, which card are you trying to install?
[05:53] <roy> Feengur. Geforece 6600 GT
[05:53] <blade> well, see that was my next objective...problem is, when i tried to download the sources...it was an empty file...
[05:53] <gecko> hey all
[05:54] <Byan> Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /var/lib/x11/XF86Config-4.md5sum
[05:54] <Byan> are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is
[05:54] <Byan> installed correctly.
[05:54] <Byan> is there anyway to install nvidia driver w/o x server
[05:54] <blade> maybe it just didnt download correctly?
[05:54] <Byan> I am trying to make my fan not be so loud...
[05:54] <Feengur> what have you tried so far?
[05:54] <verdRousseau>  I need to add 'export RUBYOPT=rubygems' to the environmental variables inorder to be able to use rubygems; how would I add this?
[05:54] <kitche> Byan: ewhy install graphical drivers when you don't run X
[05:54] <Feengur> ya rly :P
[05:54] <Byan> kitche: cause
[05:55] <Byan> my fan is really loud
[05:55] <Byan> it's at full speed
[05:55] <Feengur> if you don't want x... the drivers won't do you any good
[05:55] <Feengur> are you talking about shutting down x to install the drivers?
[05:55] <roy> Feengur. The nvidia glx drivers
[05:55] <Feengur> roy: is that it?
[05:55] <_Adramelech_> blade: downloading them rite now
[05:56] <Byan> it's a headless server..... I just want my graphics card fan to be quieter
[05:56] <roy> Feengur. No doing it in X
[05:56] <_Adramelech_> blade: worked for me
[05:56] <_Adramelech_> blade: got the complete source
[05:56] <kitche> Byan: then the nvidia-glx drivers won't help you
[05:56] <blade> i just got it to download too...must not have worked right the first time around...
[05:56] <Feengur> roy, have you tried running envy yet?
[05:57] <blade> ill try compiling from source to do it...
[05:57] <Byan> kitche: what will
[05:57] <roy> envy ??  I am an expert on Windows, but not linux
[05:57] <emun> hi how do you remove a usb device safely from ubuntu
[05:57] <blade> thank you for your help...hopefully, it will work, and i wont have to come back asking again...lol
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> emun: right-click, Eject
[05:58] <_Adramelech_> blade: as for decompiling u mean disassembling, so is better to hace c written source than a symbolless disassembler list
[05:58] <_Adramelech_> =)
[05:59] <Feengur> roy: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:59] <blade> basically all i was trying to do was get the sources of this one...and the one that worked...so i could compare the 2 and see why one worked, and the other didnt..lol
[06:00] <emun> tonyyarusso, thanks does it matter if the light is still on on the device
[06:00] <roy> Feengur. Thanks. Will that help. I am losing the will to live with the driver problem :(
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> emun: depends on the device
[06:01] <ubuntu> hihii
[06:01] <ubuntu> !nvidia
[06:01] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <emun> tonyyarusso, thanks
[06:01] <AWOSLappy> yay #perl fixed it
[06:01] <AWOSLappy> it mounted!
[06:01] <Feengur> roy: it should help.  I'm having a lot of issues with the 7600GT atm
[06:01] <Feengur> but it's just resolution issues
[06:01] <Feengur> just make sure you follow the instructions at the bottom of the page
[06:02] <roy> Feengur. That does look like it might be helpful. Thanks :)
[06:02] <Feengur> np :D
[06:03] <CorpseFeeder> I've lost access to CUPS configuration browser pages. I don't know what I did. It was working this morning and now it isn't. I am getting 403 Forbidden error. How do I fix?
[06:03] <Spasticteapo1> Well, I've sort of migrated from the Xubuntu room.
[06:04] <Spasticteapo1> Anyone here know how to bring up ACPI settings and whatnot under XFCE?
[06:04] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i cant use my wireless connection can someone help me?
[06:04] <CorpseFeeder> Only odd thing I've done today is type "xhost +" into a terminal window. I don't know what that did or if that is the cause of the problem, but now CUPS is responding always with 403 forbidden.
[06:06] <darkroast> whenever I use an "open file" dialog, it always shows every folder in my home directory, including hidden folders.  How do I change this behavior so that open dialogs only show visible folders?
[06:07] <edgy> added font but not work !?
[06:07] <Ecelimsin> selam cemaat
[06:07] <Feengur> koekje erbij?
[06:07] <Feengur> nie?
[06:08] <Feengur> hehe ^^
[06:08] <Feengur> brb
[06:08] <_Adramelech_> darkroast: right click, unmark show hiden folder
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> !tr | Ecelimsin
[06:08] <ubotwo> Ecelimsin: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:08] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ?
[06:08] <Ecelimsin> eywalllah
[06:08] <Ubuntu_on_fire> !wireless
[06:08] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:08] <darkroast> _Adramelech_ -- many thanks, maybe I won't be as stupid next time :-)
[06:09] <al> I would like to operate a IRC server on my Ubuntu,  Which IRC would work the best with Ubuntu?  Much thanks in advance for the info. :)
[06:09] <_Adramelech_> drakroast: lol , np glad it helped
[06:09] <Math^> hello, does someone know how to change the current directory ~/Photos from f-spot to some other directory?
[06:09] <Spasticteapot> On a simpler note...does anyone know how to access ACPI settings under Xubuntu?
[06:09] <CorpseFeeder> I've lost access to CUPS configuration browser pages. I don't know what I did. It was working this morning and now it isn't. I am getting 403 Forbidden error.  Only odd thing I've done today is type "xhost +" into a terminal window. I don't know what that did or if that is the cause of the problem. How do I fix?
[06:09] <Spasticteapot> And is there a #laptops or #notebooks or #ibm channnel?
[06:10] <Zz85> Hi, can i ask: does anyone knows how to start 2 separate nested XGL windows in each dual head display?
[06:10] <Math^> ...someone using f-spot?
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> al: I believe Freenode uses Dancer, which is in the repos.
[06:10] <frogzoo> Spasticteapot: how do you mean access acpi settings?
[06:11] <al> repos?
[06:11] <guimel> Hola
[06:11] <frogzoo> !someone | Math^
[06:11] <ubotwo> Math^: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> !repos | al
[06:11] <ubotwo> al: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:11] <Ubuntu_on_fire> help me so i can boot out of crapy windows and use linux
[06:11] <guimel> Hi!
[06:11] <guimel> help
[06:11] <guimel> plis
[06:11] <edgy> how to make the added font work?
[06:12] <al> cool....... gotcha
[06:12] <Math^> frogzoo, what u mean?
[06:12] <edgy> i'm running ubuntu 6.10
[06:12] <Cold_FiRe> helllloooooooooooo??
[06:12] <TuTUx> edgy, what kind fonts?
[06:12] <Spasticteapot> Dude...chill out.
[06:12] <guimel> hi, I'm from Mexico city and my name is Guimel (male)
[06:12] <edgy> extra fonts
[06:13] <edgy> includiong ms ttf fonts
[06:13] <TuTUx> edgy, if ttf just copy to ur .fonts dir and reboot
[06:13] <Spasticteapot> Hi, Guimel.  We do not care at all about your a/s/l. Unless, of course, you're an AI or something.
[06:13] <edgy> i have already rebooted
[06:13] <Math^> nvm...
[06:13] <facugaich> guimel: go to #ubuntu-es if you want help in Spanish :)
[06:14] <edgy> i copied the fonts from xp too
[06:14] <CorpseFeeder> my CUPS is broke :(
[06:14] <edgy> but the are not work
[06:14] <Spasticteapot> Anyone here at all know how to bring up ACPI?
[06:14] <TuTUx> then try to set them up with system->preference->fonts
[06:14] <flo> hi
[06:14] <Cold_FiRe> can someone help me with my wireless setup
[06:14] <TuTUx> or font*
[06:15] <CorpseFeeder> why does cups config give me 403 forbidden
[06:15] <frogzoo> Spasticteapot: it should come up itself - does /proc/acpi/ exist?
[06:15] <edgy> TuTUx: okay, I will take a try, thanx
[06:15] <TuTUx> edgy np
[06:15] <Cold_FiRe> plzzzzzzzz help me
[06:16] <regeya> !ask
[06:16] <ubotwo> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:16] <verdRousseau> Any one here have rubygems setup?
[06:16] <Spasticteapot> Nope.
[06:16] <regeya> be more specific about your wireless setup...and don't ask me directly.  I know about as much about wireless as I know about brain surgery.
[06:16] <regeya> ruby...gems...
[06:16] <Chevron36> can anyone tell me about wine? or another windows emulator for linux systems?
[06:16] <Spasticteapot> Anyone here have ACPI set up? Anyone? Please?
[06:16] <regeya> sort of ringing a bell...
[06:17] <canllaith> Heya guys - can anyone tell me where ubuntu keeps the scripts it uses for suspend ?
[06:17] <Cold_FiRe> will it connects to the modem and i can ping it but i cant go on the internet and i cant ping websites
[06:17] <regeya> verdRousseau: why do you ask?  are you with the fbi and are all rubygems users under suspicion of terrorist activities?
[06:17] <frogzoo> canllaith: /etc/acpi/
[06:17] <roy> Thanks to those that helped with the driver problem "envy" worked perfectly :)
[06:17] <frogzoo> canllaith: /etc/acpi/suspend.d/
[06:17] <canllaith> ah, thanks
[06:17] <Cold_FiRe> id rather use a network manager, i got 1 but i dont know how to install it
[06:18] <edgy> TuTUx: they are not in the list, e.g. batang, the korean fonts
[06:18] <verdRousseau> regeya- No I am having trouble installing it
[06:18] <roy> Is 1024 x 768 the highest resolution the ubuntu will run at ???
[06:18] <regeya> verdRousseau: and...?
[06:18] <Cold_FiRe> its in that tar format or something, its in a compressed folder and i dont know how to install it
[06:19] <CorpseFeeder> what the.....? um, I cleared my browser cache and now CUPS is no longer giving 403 forbidden errors. That was simple.
[06:19] <rgcet> ?????
[06:19] <verdRousseau> well I think its mainly installed but when I try to do for example update it gives me this at the endRemoving old RubyGems RDoc and ri...
[06:19] <verdRousseau> /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `gem_original_require': no such file to load -- rdoc/rdoc (LoadError)
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `require'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rubygems-update-0.9.1/./post-install.rb:103:in `install_rdoc'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rubygems-update-0.9.1/./post-install.rb:118:in `try_run_hook'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from setup.rb:584:in `run_hook'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from setup.rb:1322:in `exec_task_traverse'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from setup.rb:1175:in `exec_install'
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from setup.rb:894:in `exec_install'
[06:19] <regeya> verdRousseau: good job jerk
[06:19] <verdRousseau>         from setup.rb:712:in `invoke'
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> !paste | verdRousseau
[06:19] <ubotwo> verdRousseau: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:20] <eternalswd> how do I compare the 85x86 dpi listed from xdpyinfo | grep resolution with the 96 dpi gnome font configuration?
[06:20] <regeya> looks like verdRousseau may have simply failed to install as root
[06:20] <regeya> verdRousseau: are you trying to install as root or possible 'sudo ruby setup.rb'?
[06:20] <rgcet> ?
[06:20] <verdRousseau> I had already installed as root
[06:20] <verdRousseau> but this is running
[06:20] <Chevron36> well this is appearently going to get me nowhere
[06:20] <TuTUx> edgy, try to choose ur session language to korean then
[06:20] <eternalswd> roy, no, I'm running just fine at 1280x1024
[06:20] <regeya> ooooh.
[06:20] <regeya> sorry verdRousseau
[06:20] <verdRousseau> sudo gem update --system
[06:20] <Cold_FiRe> how do i install a file in a tar compressed folder
[06:20] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> !compile | Cold_FiRe
[06:21] <ubotwo> Cold_FiRe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:21] <edgy> TuTUx: I'm now in korean mode
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Cold_FiRe: what is it?
[06:21] <Spasticteapot> Anyone here at all know how to work ibm-acpi?
[06:21] <Cold_FiRe> what is what?
[06:21] <Spasticteapot> Please?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Cold_FiRe: the program
[06:21] <Cold_FiRe> its a network manager
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Cold_FiRe: name?
[06:21] <roy> eternalswd. I seem only able to get 1024 x 768 with the nvidia geforce 6600 GT. Do you think that is correct ?
[06:21] <verdRousseau> this also happens when I try to install rails
[06:21] <Cold_FiRe> wait let me see
[06:21] <TuTUx> edgy, so is other korean fonts in the list?
[06:22] <edgy> only the ubuntu fonts, not ms ttf
[06:22] <eternalswd> roy, you can probably go higher, but you would need to manually add to xorg.conf
[06:22] <Cold_FiRe> tonyyarusso: 28637-PyWireless-3.2.tar
[06:22] <codyc> hi, running Dapper x86..it seems I frequently hit "shift+backspace" which results in X.org quitting and taking me back to the login screen..how do I get about remapping this?
[06:23] <roy> enternalswd. OK thanks for that answer. I appreciate the clear response :)
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Cold_FiRe: never heard of it
[06:23] <Cold_FiRe> hmmm
[06:23] <edgy> TuTUx, I have followed the http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:24] <Cold_FiRe> ok want me to send it to u? lol ive got here 'NetworkManager-0.6.4.tar' asswell
[06:24] <Cold_FiRe> aswel*
[06:24] <Byan> my sound is weird.. the PCM is more like the master
[06:24] <regeya> sorry I'm not sure on the rubygems issue...and right now I'm trying to resolve a subversion issue :-}
[06:24] <Byan> is there a way to make my fn + arrow keys change the PCM instead?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Cold_FiRe: NetworkManager is in the repos.
[06:24] <Cold_FiRe> repos?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> !repos | Cold_FiRe
[06:24] <ubotwo> Cold_FiRe: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:26] <Xerroz> does anyone know of a way to see the function flow is of a program?
[06:26] <thechitowncubs> I just installed proftpd and i have 4 users on my system, whats the easiest way to point each respective user to their home with full permissions when logging into the server?
[06:26] <dimeo> anyone use k9copy?
[06:28] <vinboy> hi
[06:28] <omenemo> is anyone avalible for support when i comes to a pocket pc?
[06:29] <vinboy> how do i webcam with my fren in GAIM?
[06:29] <jughead> I am not aware of support for pocket PCs omenemo
[06:29] <jadacyrus> nm-applet can't connect to my WPA (TKIP) encrypted wireless router
[06:29] <dimeo> omenemo... I found that ubuntu support for PPC was lacking... I never got very far in getting ubuntu to work very well with PPC
[06:29] <arash_> is there a tutorial for installing Ruby on Rails?
[06:29] <dimeo> much to my dismay... I love ubuntu otherwise
[06:29] <omenemo> hehe
[06:29] <omenemo> i know!!
[06:30] <dimeo> multisync exists.. but i never got it to work with PPC the way they say
[06:30] <omenemo> i just got internet on my phone and i want it to run my ubuntu systems internet
[06:30] <ArtificialSynaps> Hey, I'm trying to mount an ntfs partition from my old windows installation and it keeps telling me permision denined even though I'm rooted
[06:30] <ArtificialSynaps> can anybody help me?
[06:30] <ArtificialSynaps> I'm following these instructions : http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/07/19/89
[06:31] <dimeo> Artificial.. u have the drivers installed?
[06:31] <jadacyrus> nm-applet can't connect to my WPA (TKIP) encrypted wireless router
[06:31] <karthik> guys..help me...i want to kill a process (firefox) which is running in the background ... from the terminal itself....wht command is it????????/
[06:32] <ArtificialSynaps> I believe so
[06:32] <ArtificialSynaps> get the pid and say kill ##
[06:32] <omenemo> whats a pid?
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> omenemo: process ID
[06:33] <omenemo> thanks tony! how do you get that?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> omenemo: top, htop, or gnome-system-monitor
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> omenemo: or pidof whateverapp
[06:34] <thechitowncubs> What would allow one user to login to my ftp server but not another?
[06:34] <omenemo> tonyarusso: thanks for those commands!
[06:34] <thechitowncubs> do ftp users need to be in a specific group?
[06:35] <ArtificialSynaps> Mmmm.. alright i'm trying to configure my hdb drive in fstab and I'm looking at the information they have written down, where do I find the UUID for my hdb drive...?
[06:35] <aalhamad> hi if i had a project or a program .. and i want to spread it on the web.. where shall i go?
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> thechitowncubs: you could probably set that in your ftpd config
[06:36] <aalhamad> how can i get gtk+ ?
[06:36] <jadacyrus> can someone help me get WPA working on edgy
[06:38] <ArtificialSynaps> gah, can someone help me, I really need access to this drive tonight. . . >>
[06:40] <aalhamad> how can i get gtk+ ? is it sudo get-apt insall gtk+ ?
[06:40] <redwyrm> hello
[06:40] <redwyrm> there are some mysterious scripts under /etc/acpi
[06:40] <redwyrm> what program(s) created and update them?
[06:40] <someothernick> ArtificialSynaps, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[06:41] <ArtificialSynaps> Thank you, I'll read up on that and get back to you guys : P
[06:43] <pythonic> okaaay.... so why do xserver-xorg-input-* and xserver-xorg-video-* depend on xserver-xorg-core which then depends on xserver-xorg-input-all | xserver-xorg-input and xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video? how am i supposed to install one video driver and one input driver?
[06:44] <omenemo> how do i get a program to autoload on startup? i want yakuake to load without me having to say so.
[06:45] <Flannel> !startup | omenemo
[06:45] <ubotu> omenemo: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[06:45] <jadacyrus> can someone help me get WPA working on edgy
[06:45] <frogzoo> omenemo: @startup, or login?
[06:46] <omenemo> when i login
[06:47] <DingoK> Has anyone tried using mod_python / Python Server Pages from apache2 on dapper server x86_64? The package seems to be broken a bit and i was wondering if I could get some help
[06:48] <karthik> guys help me....how to kill a process which is running in the system background .. i want to kill the process from terminal ??...wht is the command?
[06:48] <QwertyM> karthik: killall <name>
[06:49] <QwertyM> like for example, killall firefox-bin
[06:50] <humblerodent> this is going to sound like a n00b question (and it sure feels like one o_O ), but does anyone know if you can DOWNgrade a package using apt-get or dpkg?
[06:50] <frogzoo> humblerodent: & the answer is no - remove & reinstall
[06:50] <omenemo> ty ubotu!
[06:51] <omenemo> which one is my dns the one ending in .100 or in .101?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> humblerodent: Well, actually the answer is sort of, but it's probably not worth it.
[06:51] <popol> hi guys
[06:51] <humblerodent> frogzoo: so basically I have to scout around for the older package, remove the one I have, and manually install the old one?  I can't just give apt-get a version number to replace the one I have with?
[06:52] <MindFreek> GAIM Question: I upgrade to the new version, now the IM Input area (where you type your message) keeps resizing after every conversation
[06:52] <frogzoo> humblerodent: if you can find a repo with the old version, you can install the old versn with synaptic
[06:53] <humblerodent> tonyyarusso: well, I really need to get Firefox downgraded.  2.0 + is too buggy for my tastes. =P
[06:53] <karthik> thanks QwertyM...it works
[06:53] <humblerodent> frogzoo: right, okay....
[06:53] <humblerodent> thanks.
[06:53] <popol> i havr some questions about ati drivers
[06:54] <omenemo> lemme tell you the nvidia ones suck!@ i still cant run q3 :(
[06:54] <popol> i was about to say that ati drivers sucks too
[06:54] <MindFreek> anyone have an answer to my GAIM question?
[06:55] <omenemo> what is compatible with ubuntu?? ati and nvidia runs the show
[06:55] <popol> sry have no answer for gaim
[06:55] <MindFreek> thanks.
[06:55] <karthik> QwntryW....how to get the list of all process that are running in my system.....
[06:56] <popol> i tried to install ati drivers couple of times and when i relog the drivers rolls back to mesa d
[06:56] <omenemo> karthik: in terminal type "top"
[06:56] <karthik> QwntryW....how to get the list of all process that are running in my system.....from terminal....
[06:56] <redwyrm> karthik, "ps -A"
[06:57] <popol> cant start beryl
[06:58] <popol> but i finally got savage working  but the commander config are bugged
[06:58] <mikejanssen> hmmm
[06:58] <mikejanssen> does ubuntu use alot of ram?
[06:58] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:58] <popol> dunno
[06:58] <mikejanssen> i did free -m...and its showin i have 67mb of ram left...out of 883
[06:59] <h3h_timo> could someone show me how to list all programs i have installed???
[07:00] <MindFreek> h3h_timo, use synaptic
[07:00] <popol> in synaptic  there is a field to the right
[07:00] <popol> you can choose installed apps
[07:00] <karthik> thanks guys
[07:00] <h3h_timo> MindFreek, alright but before it was in the terminal and it ran through all installed packages and asked if i wanted to remove each one seperately
[07:01] <Cold_FiRe> whats the best linux compiler? im not very sure how to use the terminal to compile things
[07:01] <jadacyrus> After installing the latest updates, nm-applet no longer lists the wireless connections..
[07:02] <Flannel> !compile | Cold_FiRe
[07:02] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:03] <Cold_FiRe> i went there but i dont get it
[07:03] <jadacyrus> After installing the latest updates, nm-applet no longer lists the wireless connections.. How can I find out which updates I Installed last?
[07:04] <eisma> could anyone walk me through installing java and flash on ubuntu?
[07:04] <Flannel> !java | eisma
[07:04] <ubotu> eisma: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:05] <Flannel> eisma: for flash (you want flash9), it's in the backports repository, see !backports if you need help enabling it
[07:05] <jadacyrus> nevermind its back now
[07:05] <brussel_> Are there any SATA RAID cards supported by ubuntu?
[07:06] <brussel_> And if there are any SATA RAID cards supported what are there names? I'd like to start researching and budgeting...
[07:06] <brussel_> s/there/their/
[07:07] <verdRousseau> does anyone know all the ruby packages I need for rubygems such as libzlib-ruby?
[07:08] <olympionex> any livecd remastering experts around?
[07:09] <Flannel> olympionex: you seen help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ?
[07:09] <mdasilva_> hey all
[07:09] <olympionex> Flannel: yes
[07:10] <frogzoo> brussel_: as long as they're based on the same chipsets as mobos, shouldn't have a problem
[07:10] <mdasilva_> anyone here using LVM2?
[07:10] <Flannel> !anyone | mdasilva_
[07:10] <ubotu> mdasilva_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:10] <brussel_> frogzo, mobos?
[07:10] <frogzoo> brussel_: motherboards
[07:11] <brussel_> frogzoo, the sata raid cards will have nothing to do with the mobo
[07:11] <mdasilva_> im just curious on how widespread LVM usage is
[07:11] <mdasilva_> im surprised it doesn't come up during installations
[07:11] <olympionex> flannel: my problem does not seem to be addressed in the howtos.  Something about the livecd is overwriting the files I change in the squashfs I (re)created.
[07:11] <Flannel> mdasilva_: only the alternate CD
[07:12] <facugaich> lol I guess you're the first one with a legitimate "Deas anyone/anydoby..." question mdasilva_
[07:12] <mdasilva_> lvm is my new best friend
[07:12] <Flannel> mdasilva_: but, even the Desktop CD has support for it (when you use it as a liveCD).
[07:12] <[SilverFox] > I must be a n00b sorry if i not checking all help sites lol but just downloaded the desktop/laptop ver from http://www.ubuntu.com I put cd in my laptop says run/install and then it takes 10min or so loads the os from the cdrom lol it does not install
[07:12] <brussel_> frogzoo: sata raid cards are like these here, none of which seem to be supported by ubuntu: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/12/13/pci-express-sata-raid-controllers-for-smb-servers/page9.html#product_comparison_tableHere
[07:13] <mdasilva_> ya i haven't had much time to touch my linux box but me learning about lvm is almost as big as when i learned about screen
[07:13] <mdasilva_> lol
[07:13] <mikejanssen> [SilverFox] , did you notice an 'install' icon on your desktop, on your cd
[07:13] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : there's an install link on the desktop
[07:13] <mdasilva_> lvm2 snapshots - wows
[07:13] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:13] <mikejanssen> icon says 'install' thats all it says
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> Anyone know why my system won't recognize my USB hard drive?
[07:13] <someothernick> !hcl
[07:13] <[SilverFox] > <mikejanssen> lol no so were suppose to load it all up my mistake.. was born yesterday
[07:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> I get this error message:
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> ]   6:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[07:14] <Spastic_teapot> This is for a cheap USB hard drive.
[07:15] <jadacyrus> whats with WPA On edgy?
[07:17] <redwyrm> anybody know how what program created the /etc/acpi scripts?
[07:19] <Cold_FiRe> wats beter xgl or aiglx
[07:19] <omenemo> how do i see all of the channels on irc? what's the command?
[07:20] <mdasilva_> .    /list
[07:21] <frogzoo> Cold_FiRe: xgl for ati, aiglx for nvidia
[07:21] <omenemo> thanks mdasilva_
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> ic
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> where can i get xgl
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> !xgl
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> why is aiglx for nvidia?
[07:21] <olympionex> Flannel: you know of any other servers/rooms that would be helpful for finding information about remastering?  There are so many ubuntu based live-cds and yet I can't find much information on whats causing my problem.
[07:21] <frogzoo> brussel_: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[07:22] <Cold_FiRe> its seems beter then xgl on youtube
[07:22] <brussel_> frogzoo, thanks i'll check it out
[07:22] <omenemo> what is the irc command to connect to another server?
[07:23] <jormung> okay i have a problem i have connected windows 98 to a ubuntu 6.06 via a blue ethernet cable. How do i get them to talk to each other?
[07:23] <Cold_FiRe> you can always use modem talking
[07:23] <brussel_> frogzoo, I'm not looking for chipsets
[07:23] <biglebowski> jormung, you need a cross cable if you're linking them directly
[07:23] <Cold_FiRe> as in this ip trick where the computer thinks the other modem is a server
[07:23] <biglebowski> that is without a router or a hub
[07:23] <jormung> what is that?
[07:23] <frogzoo> brussel_: the chipset determines if there's a linux driver
[07:24] <biglebowski> jormung, google it
[07:24] <jormung> what is a cross cable
[07:24] <jormung> ok
[07:24] <Cold_FiRe> but it goes max speed of the modem
[07:24] <Flannel> olympionex: "casper" is the name of the liveCD thing.  the reason there are so many is becuase of programs like these: http://uck.sourceforge.net/ http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[07:24] <seshomaru> hi ,is there's a mirror for /security.ubuntu.com dapper-security?
[07:25] <seshomaru> repository....
[07:25] <Flannel> omenemo: depends on the client.  /connect is commonly used.  That's for servers.  You sure you didn't mean channel?  that's /join
[07:25] <Cold_FiRe> ok compz or xgl???
[07:25] <omenemo> well you guys rock but i think my pocket pc issue may be better suited for a pocketpc channel
[07:25] <brussel_> frogzoo, you totally lost me there. the sata cards come with their own drivers and they supply linux drivers for redhat and suse usually, along with BSD and others but none of them mention ubuntu. going to ubuntu hardware support there is only one card that is supported and that card is only partially supported.
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> compiz*
[07:26] <jormung> what is modem talking cold fire?
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[07:26] <jormung> one compr has a modem the other doesnt
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> you lan the computers over a modem line
[07:26] <brussel_> frogzoo, i was hoping that the documentation was out-of-date and could lead me to more current documentation showing support for some cards...
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> but its only 64kb
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> or watever speed the modem is
[07:27] <jormung> do both computers need a modem
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> its somthing like you have to connect to the other persons ip
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> yea
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> its from modem to modem
[07:27] <brussel_> frogzoo, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers?highlight=%28%283ware+9500%29%29 to see what i'm talking about
[07:27] <Kragnerac>  :)
[07:28] <jormung> ok. will a cross link cable work, coldfire?
[07:28] <corevette> if i'm installing ubuntu on vmware on windows xp...is there a special VM i should use?
[07:28] <Cold_FiRe> wait a cross link cable is the one with ethernet connections isnt it?
[07:29] <jormung> this is what wiki says
[07:29] <jormung> A crossover cable is a cable that maps all output signals on one connector to the input signals on the other connector, allowing two electronic devices to perform full-duplex communication. Most commonly, the term refers to the Ethernet crossover cable, but other cables follow the same principle. It also allows for reliable transmission via an Ethernet connection
[07:29] <ani> !doc
[07:29] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:29] <mattdwilnew> anyone around?
[07:30] <eoX> !doc
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> !anyone | mattdwilnew
[07:30] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:30] <ubotu> mattdwilnew: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:30] <frogzoo> mattdwilnew: ask a silly question...
[07:30] <olympionex> Flannel: I tried reconstructor and uck, but I can't seem to find any information about what the livecd does when it boots up.  Its grabbing some configuration files from somewhere that I can't find on the filesystem.
[07:30] <Cold_FiRe> yea.... if you want to do modem lan then you need that cable(not sure what its called tho) that can plug into a computer modem from one end and another computer modem from the other end
[07:30] <CorpseFeeder> Yo! I've almost got all my printer problems solved. Now, on the XP machine, when I try to add the printer (shared from a Ubuntu machine with CUPS), I am presented with a username/password login box. I don't know what to enter here or how to disable this. I think I have to edit my dupsd.conf file, but I don't know what to change. Who will help me?
[07:30] <Cold_FiRe> no i cross link cable wont work
[07:31] <CorpseFeeder> dupsd.conf=cupsd.conf too btw
[07:32] <CorpseFeeder> I don't want to use samba to share my printer, as I understand XP will be able to access it through ipp/cups sharing
[07:32] <jormung> does anyone else know how to network a win98 and a ubuntu 6.06?
[07:33] <mattdwilnew> having a few installation issues with ubuntu 6.10. Originally i thought it was the RAID i had, but after unplugging that it hangs on auto install
[07:33] <corevette> does anyone know of any ubuntu vmware image files???
[07:33] <CorpseFeeder> what (if anything) do I need to modify in my cupsd.conf file so that XP can access the shared printer on my Ubuntu box?
[07:33] <mattdwilnew> anyone know of a list of boot commands?
[07:34] <Cold_FiRe> compiz or xgl?
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> any help on getting XP to access my printer using ipp/cups is appreciated. Thanks.
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone want to see my cupsd.conf file? shall I post it to pastebin?
[07:36] <riotkittie> that reminds me, i need to try to get my printer up and running
[07:36] <frogzoo> Cold_FiRe: beryl > compiz
[07:37] <Cold_FiRe> i cant figure out how to install beryl... do u need internet to use it
[07:37] <Cold_FiRe> !beryl
[07:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:39] <omenemo> OMG! I GOT Q3 TO RUN IN UBUNTU!!! I want to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! to the entire community!
[07:39] <omenemo> THANK YOU!
[07:39] <arash_> is there a tutorial for installing Ruby on Rails?
[07:39] <corevette> what are the differences between these: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ and normal download images
[07:40] <omenemo> if anyone cares, it even runs better ;)
[07:40] <CorpseFeeder> I've almost got all my printer problems solved. Now, on the XP machine, when I try to add the printer (shared from a Ubuntu machine with CUPS), I am presented with a username/password login box. I don't know what to enter here or how to disable this. I think I have to edit my dupsd.conf file, but I don't know what to change. Who will help me?
[07:40] <riotkittie> vmware images run in virtual machines or players
[07:40] <Flannel> arash_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[07:41] <ciscosurfer> Anyone know of a good TV tuner card to use with ubuntu?
[07:41] <riotkittie> while normal iamages ... are installed on your hd
[07:41] <corevette> riotkittie how are they different image files...will normal ubuntu image files not work with vmware?
[07:42] <omenemo> i have ubuntu running, if i DL kde for ubuntu, will everything i have setup now xfer over?
[07:43] <biglebowski> xfer?
[07:43] <omenemo> *transfer
[07:43] <riotkittie> corevette: im not really sure - i was going to install a vmplayer on our xp desktop but didnt get around to it earlier. i am wondering if its like maybe those are preconfig'ed and they just run and you dont have to go through an install process
[07:43] <arash_> Flannel thanks
[07:43] <riotkittie> or something. i am tired. and inarticulate. <shuts up>
[07:43] <omenemo> like will my installed programs and repositories and stuff like that
[07:44] <riotkittie> omenemo: yes
[07:44] <CorpseFeeder> should I add "Listen *:631" and "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock" to my cupsd.conf file? what does that do?
[07:44] <corevette> riotkittie...i just tried vmware with a normal ubuntu image...and it wouldn't even start during the loading process...you think these images will work?
[07:44] <esc> has anyone had trouble logging into googletalk with gaim beta6?
[07:44] <biglebowski> omenemo, no .. they would stay .. just isntall kubuntu-desktop
[07:44] <CorpseFeeder> i see the second line is already in there
[07:44] <riotkittie> corevette: have no clue. try it - at worst, all you lose is a bit of time downloading
[07:45] <omenemo> biglebowski: does that keep everything the way i have it now?
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder> should I add  "Listen *:631" to my cupsd.conf? what will that fix?
[07:45] <biglebowski> omenemo, what exactly are you worried about? your config, files and home directory will remain
[07:46] <omenemo> if i want to run quake3 in the terminal all i have to do is type quake3.  will that stay?
[07:46] <biglebowski> omenemo, yes ...
[07:46] <omenemo> god is good
[07:46] <Flannel> omenemo: installing kubuntu-desktop simply adds a second desktop environment (that's the GUI) ontop of the system, everything will stay as it is, except you'll have a new choice of Desktops
[07:47] <omenemo> and i can get that from add/remove? flannel
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, sudo of course
[07:48] <CorpseFeeder> somebody, please tell me how to avoid this daft login box when trying to add a shared printer to the XP computer... someone must know, surely?
[07:48] <mikejanssen> i tried kubuntu...didnt like it
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, or synaptic
[07:48] <mikejanssen> seemed to be slower for me
[07:48] <biglebowski> mikejanssen, you mean you didn't like KDE
[07:48] <mikejanssen> yea
[07:48] <feengur> gah
[07:48] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:48] <mikejanssen> kde
[07:48] <Cold_FiRe> wats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[07:49] <mikejanssen> didnt like kde
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> oh
[07:49] <feengur> kubuntu uses kde
[07:49] <Daemonik> what dhcp client does Ubuntu Edgy use on the LiveCD??
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> is it just running on kde insted of gnome or whatever else
[07:49] <biglebowski> mikejanssen, I love it .. that yakuake terminal is my favorite little thing :)(
[07:49] <biglebowski> :)
[07:49] <mikejanssen> i think gnome is gonna be my gui of choice
[07:49] <riotkittie> yeah its just got kde
[07:49] <riotkittie> the underlying os is the same
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> well i dont really like kde
[07:50] <frogzoo> mikejanssen: you only say that cos you haven't tried beryl
[07:50] <mikejanssen> am i the only one kde ran slower for?
[07:50] <Cold_FiRe> to be onist
[07:50] <feengur> need some help with something.  I installed the nvidia driver using automatix2 and now my refresh rate is right, but my resolution is locked at 800x600
[07:50] <biglebowski> it runs fine for me ...
[07:50] <Daemonik> what dhcp client does Ubuntu Edgy use on the LiveCD??
[07:50] <mark_> Can someone suggest a source.list entry for libdvdcss on amd64?  Everything I've found on the web is wrong...
[07:50] <feengur> the xorg0.log reports that none of my modes can be validated
[07:50] <frogzoo> mikejanssen: gnome got much faster from dapper to edgy
[07:50] <maddash> feengur: run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[07:50] <biglebowski> can't wait for KDE 4 to come out :D
[07:50] <esc> mikejanssen: I run kde. and it's quite fast. I did a kde-core install & it's as fast as, say, xfce
[07:51] <feengur> mad, i've done that 4 times already :P .  in my xorg.conf the modes are listed correctly, but it still sets a virtual desk resolution
[07:51] <esc> kde4 yeah hopefully that'll be good. supposed to be fast
[07:51] <feengur> i've even gone as far as re-installing the os and trying again
[07:51] <Gosha> !ftp
[07:51] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:51] <CorpseFeeder> there are loads of posts in the forums quoting... "Sharing a printer with cups is easy and has always worked. Using ipp." - yet nowhere can I find how to get past this infernal XP asking for a username/password just to be able to add the printer. help!
[07:51] <omenemo> wow, nearly another half gig for kde
[07:51] <esc> *kftpgrabber
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> hey can u use vmware on ubuntu but make the image on a windos partion?
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> windows
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> cuz i set my ubuntu to have 4gb and my windows to have 16
[07:53] <Cold_FiRe> seeing as windows takes more
[07:53] <Cold_FiRe> but i want to use vmware so i can fully use ubuntu
[07:53] <beginner> is that any alternative  for xorg
[07:53] <beginner> for ubuntu edgy?
[07:54] <maddash> feengur: post up your Xorg.log
[07:54] <mikejanssen> beryl worth tryin out?
[07:54] <CorpseFeeder> is sharing a printer with XP using ipp now impossible to do in Edgy? Am I forced to install and use samba for my printer now???
[07:54] <beginner> it seems that xorg is eating memory
[07:54] <beginner> even when I run fluxbox
[07:54] <riotkittie> uh
[07:54] <beginner> anyone?
[07:54] <riotkittie> try using your xp name and pass?
[07:55] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, which is your host machine? windows or linux?
[07:55] <Cold_FiRe> linux
[07:55] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder, have you read the !cups stuff?
[07:55] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, so you have to virtual machines running now?
[07:55] <CorpseFeeder> flannel: what? where?
[07:55] <Flannel> !cups | CorpseFeeder
[07:55] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:55] <Cold_FiRe> no
[07:56] <Cold_FiRe> im on my windows boot
[07:56] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[07:56] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, what? explain how you have your hosts and vms set up
[07:56] <feengur> i reinstalled, what is the url for the paste bin again?
[07:56] <feengur> !paste
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:57] <Cold_FiRe> i dual booted with ubuntu, but i want the boot image on my windows partions so linux accesses the windows partions to boot the Virtual OS, my linux partion has 3gb and my windows has 16 so i want to use my windows pariton
[07:58] <newbieme> hello all.. i have a fresh install of ubuntu linux in my machine... right now im trying to compile an application but when i executed ./configure it says tsh: make: command not found" how can i install/enable make command? hat "
[07:58] <newbieme> thanks in advance
[07:58] <feengur> maddog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2518/
[07:58] <feengur> xorg0.log
[07:58] <feengur> i'll post up the xorg.conf as well
[07:58] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, so you want to run vmware in linux, but want it to load the vm files from the windows partition
[07:58] <Flannel> !build-essential | newbieme
[07:58] <ubotu> newbieme: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:58] <Cold_FiRe> yea pritty much
[07:58] <maddash> newbieme: sudo aptitude install make gcc
[07:58] <Flannel> newbieme: which app?
[07:58] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, what FS on windows?
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> ntfs
[07:59] <maddash> newbieme: open a  cmd terminal and type in, `sudo aptitude install make gcc`
[07:59] <riotkittie> newbieme: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> but ill convert it to fat32
[07:59] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, why not just toss the windows partition if you're not going to use it.  just join the partitions with gparted?
[07:59] <Flannel> maddash: gcc doesn't include the libraries, or some of the toolchain, build-essential is a better (meta)package
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> wat... join the partions? gparted?
[07:59] <maddash> Flannel: like?
[07:59] <newbieme> thanks for the info guys!! thank you so much!
[08:00] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, yeah .. you can access both of these in linux .. just have to mount them write.. you can use ntfs-3g for write support to windows partition .. its believed to be pretty safe
[08:00] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:00] <feengur> mad:  here's the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2519/
[08:00] <Cold_FiRe> how do i get it?
[08:00] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:00] <feengur> it all looks right
[08:00] <Flannel> maddash: well, gcc doesn't install g++, and also doesn't install libc6-dev, or make.
[08:00] <Cold_FiRe> k
[08:01] <CorpseFeeder> thanks flannel, looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP has some useful info I have not seen/tried yet. I will see what happens.
[08:01] <Cold_FiRe> so it will basicly let linux write to windows partion
[08:01] <Cold_FiRe> ntfs partion
[08:01] <Flannel> !ntfs | Cold_FiRe
[08:01] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:01] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, yes, ntfs-3g, its safer than the module that  comes with the kernel
[08:02] <biglebowski> there you go
[08:02] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: ubuntu can already read your NTFS, however writing isn't completely stable yet.  No need to reformat to fat
[08:02] <Cold_FiRe> ok good
[08:02] <Spasticteapot> Anyone know anything about Genesys USB adapters?
[08:02] <maddash> !anyone
[08:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:02] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:02] <feengur> Flannel: is ntfs read supported in Dapper? or just Edgy atm?
[08:03] <Spasticteapot> I have one, and the confounded thing won't work - something about max_sectors needing to be set to 32.
[08:03] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, it's pointless to use the ntfs partition if you're just using a virtual os.  It will be faster in native filesystem
[08:03] <Flannel> feengur: yes, its supported... since Breezy, I believe.
[08:03] <maddash> feengur: read works from breezy on.
[08:03] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[08:03] <feengur> about my modelist problems?
[08:03] <Cold_FiRe> ill just resize the file system
[08:03] <Spasticteapot> Also, how could I access a NTFS partition on my drive?
[08:04] <Spasticteapot> I really need to do one or the other - I've got a paper I need to finish!
[08:04] <omenemo> here is a problemo.  When i put a certian disk in my cd drive, it does not display.  how do i find it??
[08:04] <Flannel> Spasticteapot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:04] <maddash> Spasticteapot: you mean read from the partition?
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Have you used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9?highlight=%289%29%7C%28flashplayer%29 to install flashplayer 9? Did you have any problems?
[08:04] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:05] <subzero800> anyone: i am trying to get cedega working with my ati card, the test says direct rendering is working, but 3D accel is not working, and the game runs w/out accel, what should i do?
[08:05] <feengur> mad:  you red the logs yet?
[08:05] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: that's a dumb page.  flash9 is in backports, use that one.
[08:05] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, or search for gparted in synaptic
[08:05] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:06] <Flannel> !repeat | [SilverFox] 
[08:06] <ubotu> [SilverFox] : Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:06] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : did you verify the CD?
[08:06] <CorpseFeeder> oh bollocks.. now i am getting 4093 forbidden from the CUPS configuration pages again. Why?
[08:06] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden even
[08:06] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, then run gparted as root and you will be able to resize your ext3 partition
[08:06] <[SilverFox] > <Flannel> verify the CD? not sure how that helps lol its a fresh download and install from the off site.
[08:06] <Cold_FiRe> ive got partion magic it think that works?
[08:07] <CakeProphet> hrm...
[08:07] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, you may need to repartition the ntfs to ext3 first
[08:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I'm using dapper, and I don't see it in dapper-backports (I'm searching in packages.ubuntu.com)
[08:07] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : at the original boot menu (you'll need to restart) there's a "verify CD integrity", fourth down, I believe.
[08:07] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[08:07] <CakeProphet> Flannel, heh... back
[08:07] <CakeProphet> I got the driver installed
[08:07] <CakeProphet> but...
[08:07] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't work with any of the backports ones.
[08:07] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, you need to do this in linux, not windows, since you would be deleting the windows partition
[08:07] <CakeProphet> the device still isn't working properly.
[08:07] <feengur> need to restart X
[08:07] <feengur> brb
[08:07] <Cold_FiRe> well ill just format my entire computer and use vmware on the the linux computer and that should have me covered
[08:08] <[SilverFox] > <Flannel> ok thanks I will check it out
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I didn't know that.  It does show the -backports repositories--is the data not maintained or updated?
[08:08] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden will be the death of me. cups browser configuration is dead again. This sucks.
[08:08] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, if you don't mind losing your linux install, you can do it that way.
[08:09] <Cold_FiRe> ill just delete the windows partion then
[08:09] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: the data is non existant, as far as I know.  Actually, I don't think there is a method (besides browsing the repositories themselves) to know what's in backports.  I don't believe they have a list or anything
[08:10] <feengur> gah. still didn't work
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Wait, ignore what I said.  It does appear to be there (on packages.ubuntu.com).
[08:10] <subzero800> anyone: i am trying to get cedega working with my ati card, the test says direct rendering is working, but 3D accel is not working, and the game runs w/out accel, what should i do?
[08:10] <feengur> just ran:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't do anything....
[08:10] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, that should work, but you may still need to use gparted or some linux program to format to ext3 if you have an older partition magic
[08:10] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: really?  that's news to me.
[08:11] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  search for "flashplugin-nonfree", you'll see it.
[08:11] <Cold_FiRe> ive got partition magic 7 and 8
[08:11] <feengur> is there a way to force a resolution onto X?
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: According to the web pages, dapper-backports has flashplugin-nonfree: 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1: i386
[08:12] <CorpseFeeder> when I add the cups shared printer to the XP box, where I enter http://192.168.1.12:631/printers/<printer name>... what do I put in <printer name>? where do I look to see what this name is?
[08:12] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, use 8 then. before you repartiition, let me just ask, are you wanting to use 3d-accelartion at all?
[08:12] <Cold_FiRe> yes
[08:12] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: that does seem to be consistent
[08:12] <Cold_FiRe> i want the windows to wobble and the cube desktop effect and the beryl themes
[08:13] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, I meant for the Windows install
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> no
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> windows i really only use for general stuff
[08:13] <hagabaka> can i upgrade from edgy to fiesty through apt-get distupgrade?
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> plus on vmware it would be really slow
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> hagabaka: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[08:14] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, okay, just making sure you weren't playing games or stuff because vmware doesn't even support 3d
[08:14] <Jedrick> !wine
[08:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:14] <Cold_FiRe> and i want to figure out how to fix my linux computer so i can have the windows on one side and the linux on another
[08:14] <subzero800> !ati
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <feengur> cold, you should install windows first
[08:15] <feengur> then linux
[08:15] <omenemo> does anyone know how i can access my almost un accessable cdrom drive? it does not display in nautilus
[08:15] <Cold_FiRe> ive already installed it
[08:15] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, have a dual screen setup?  you'll probably want vmware server rather than vmware player then
[08:15] <Cold_FiRe> no
[08:15] <Jedrick> my default browser is konqueror, how can i change it to firefox?
[08:16] <Cold_FiRe> ive got one screen and want to use vmware on diferent desktops
[08:16] <feengur> jed install/run firefox
[08:16] <feengur> and set as default browser
[08:16] <feengur> it should ask you
[08:16] <Cold_FiRe> wat vmware should i use?
[08:16] <feengur> if not, goto Edit>Preferences in firefox
[08:16] <feengur> you can set it from there
[08:16] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, ah, probably still want vmware server as that allows for fullscreen
[08:16] <eoX> !doc
[08:16] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[08:16] <redwyrm> !patience | redwyrm
[08:16] <ubotu> redwyrm: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:17] <Cold_FiRe> wat about workstation
[08:17] <Cold_FiRe> vmware workstation
[08:17] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, workstation isn't free, if you purchase it, that one should be the best
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> yea i dont mind paying
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> im on the vmware website and i cant find where to download it from
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> i found ace and this other thing
[08:19] <Cold_FiRe> but not workstation
[08:19] <yetist> hi
[08:19] <Cold_FiRe> i found it
[08:20] <feengur> hi yet
[08:21] <azz> Hiho.. for i wish you all good monday.... as it is posible :D
[08:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Thanks for the backports tip--that saved me some work.
[08:22] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, go with that then.  That will also make it easier for you to create your virtual machine, rather than hacking one up. site should be http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/ if you haven't found it
[08:22] <CorpseFeeder> I have done everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and still the login box on the XP machine refuses to budge. It accepts no username/password combination. And still I cannot get any access to the cups configuration browser pages from any machine on the network - 403 forbidden errors abound. I am no further ahead.
[08:22] <dabaR> how do I listen to .pls streams meant for winamp?
[08:23] <dabaR> did you set up a samba administrator user name, and tried that?
[08:24] <dabaR> with smbpasswd...
[08:24] <eternalswd> dabaR what music player do you use?
[08:24] <maddash> dabaR: just open it.
[08:24] <dabaR> I guess, I will read what it says on the wiki
[08:24] <dabaR> xmmx
[08:24] <omenemo> if i get: mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:24] <omenemo> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[08:24] <omenemo> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[08:24] <omenemo> is there a path i can follow to get to the files on this cd?
[08:24] <maddash> dabaR: open it up with "ctrl L"
[08:24] <maddash> omenemo: `cd /media/cdrom0`
[08:25] <subzero800_> anyone here familiar with ATI drivers?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: only in that their buggy
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> *they're
[08:26] <subzero800_> My problem is that I can'te get 3D accel to work in cedega with the driver :-( any clues?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: does it work outside of cedega?
[08:26] <CorpseFeeder> my cups config is dead? any ideas how to fix this?
[08:26] <eternalswd> dabaR do you have mplayer?
[08:27] <omenemo> says i do not have permission, then when i sudo it, it says that sudo: cd: command not found, any ideas? maddash or anyone??
[08:27] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: did you check that cups is allowing remote access?
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: I listen to .pls in mplayer, vlc, and rhythmbox successfully.
[08:27] <dabaR> I tried just opening the file, and I get pre-buffering constantly. I tried entering the URL with ctrl-L (including the .pls file) and it says Live Stream, and no music.
[08:27] <maddash> omenemo: `su` first
[08:28] <eternalswd> dabaR, xmms can't open .pls
[08:28] <subzero800_> tonyy: well let me see
[08:28] <maddash> dabaR: open up the pls in a txt editor
[08:28] <maddash> dabaR: manually paste over the stream URL
[08:28] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: explain how I would do that? I don't know for sure, but I assume it is since all the Macs can access the printer through ipp
[08:28] <mwe> omenemo: cd is a shell built in and not a binary file
[08:29] <mwe> omenemo: sudo -i. then do what you want
[08:29] <eternalswd> dabaR, or you can use mplayer via mplayer -playlist http://example.com/something.pls
[08:29] <maddash> eternalswd: yeah, it does. I just did.
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> omenemo: sudo chmod +x the directory giving you trouble
[08:29] <dabaR> It is aac http://82.193.201.234:8000/stream64.aac, I guess, I need to see how to set that up.
[08:29] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you would edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[08:29] <maddash> dabaR: I meant to paste it into xmms' 'ctrl+L"
[08:30] <maddash> dabaR: not sure if xmms can do aac...
[08:30] <subzero800_> tonyyarusso: 3D accel works in the 3d game Trigger fine
[08:30] <dabaR> maddash: Ya, I gt it, tried, already..
[08:30] <dabaR> I mean, got what you nmeant
[08:30] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: i edited cupsd.conf according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP that did not help me at all.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: I'd check out the cedega support stuff then
[08:30] <maddash> dabaR: do `wget [url] ` them open it up in xmms
[08:31] <dabaR> ya, I got it, thank you very much.
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> I would also like to know why I no longer am able to browse to the cups configuration pages.  403 forbidden
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden for all cups pages
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> CorpseFeeder: is the cupsys user a member of the shadow group?
[08:31] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: so you have Allow From 192.168.0.* or whatever your local network is? and restarted cups?
[08:31] <maddash> dabaR: sure.
[08:32] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: I have no idea
[08:32] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: yes and yes
[08:32] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: It really sound like a misconfiguration since you get forbidden. it does at least see it then
[08:33] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you're not getting 404
[08:33] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: what is the shadow group? is that something to do with lexx?
[08:33] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: i get 403
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> CorpseFeeder: It allows it to read the /etc/shadow file for authorization
[08:33] <redwyrm> what command does selecting Hibernate run? i.e., from the same menu that has Logout, Shutdown, and Reboot
[08:34] <mwe> tonyyarusso: I don't think you get 403 if cupsd is not in shadow, do you? I don't at least.
[08:34] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything.... (Updated I did a full scan 0 errors!)
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> mwe: I'm not really sure
[08:34] <mwe> tonyyarusso: can you open the page from the localhost?
[08:34] <maddash> how do I read realplayer streams?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> mwe: ask him :)
[08:35] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: I do not think I even have a shadow group at all.
[08:35] <fek> moin
[08:35] <mwe> tonyyarusso: I just think it doesn't allow you to change things and I'm not sure it's even the case anymore
[08:35] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: ^^
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> mwe: could be
[08:35] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: can you open the page from the localhost?
[08:36] <tarelerulz> Could it be done to put the file from Ubuntu install cd on usb pen drive so you could install from it ?
[08:36] <mwe> tarelerulz: yes
[08:36] <mwe> tarelerulz: I did. there is a guide
[08:36] <feengur> omg fixed it :D
[08:37] <mwe> tarelerulz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:37] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: ok, yes I can. But i get 403 forbidden if i type the IP address still.
[08:37] <tarelerulz> Thanks a lot mwe
[08:37] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: can you pastebin /etc/cups/cupsd.conf?
[08:38] <tarelerulz> I lookd for that for long time and found nothing. all the stuff I found was for install ubuntu on usb not use it as live install
[08:38] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I feel convinced it's where the problem lies
[08:38] <omenemo> how do i use a .x86.run file?
[08:38] <CorpseFeeder> where was pastebin url?
[08:38] <mwe> omenemo: which one? usually chmod +x it
[08:39] <heatxsink_> hello all, anyone in here use gnome-rdp, and have more than 4 screens
[08:39] <heatxsink_> it keeps giving me a bad error about not knowing which screen to use
[08:39] <DarthLappy> !paste | CorpseFeeder
[08:39] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:40] <Jedrick> can i install .rpm file on ubuntu?
[08:41] <mwe> Jedrick: if you convert it with alien. be careful though
[08:41] <mwe> Jedrick: It usually a much better idea to try locate a native .deb
[08:41] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2520/ enjoy :)
[08:42] <Jedrick> ok
[08:42] <Cold_FiRe> !compiz
[08:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:42] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: what's the ip of the windows machine?
[08:43] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: um... don't know, I will go look, but it's definitely 192.168.1.* something
[08:43] <Rappermas> ok, question about the ubuntu installer--now i know that it create an ext3 file on the ntfs, right, and it modifies NTDLR, has anyone tried it?
[08:43] <Rappermas> the windows installer
[08:43] <Rappermas> wow i should've made that clear
[08:44] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: XP machine resides at 192.168.1.72 if that makes a difference...
[08:44] <maddash> Rappermas: huh? you want to boot to the ext3 from ntldr?
[08:44] <Rappermas> no
[08:44] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: ok. and on the localhost you can access 127.0.0.1:631 but not the 192.168.1.x:631 page?
[08:44] <Rappermas> i want to know how the windows ubuntu installer works
[08:45] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: that is correct
[08:45] <Rappermas> have you guys heard of this thing?
[08:45] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: did you restart cups after changing the config?
[08:45] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: yes
[08:45] <maddash> Rappermas: just chk c:\boot.ini
[08:45] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: hmm
[08:45] <Rappermas> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279
[08:45] <Rappermas> check that out
[08:46] <maddash> already there. just chk boot.ini, as I said.
[08:46] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: hang on. phone ...
[08:46] <Rappermas> yeah, i was just wondering about the details of exactly how the thing works
[08:46] <Rappermas> i mean, i still install from actual media
[08:47] <Rappermas> i don't have any windows boxes
[08:47] <Rappermas> but some of my friends do
[08:47] <Rappermas> and this might be a great way to convert ppl
[08:47] <Matthai> hi, I am trying to play .mov file, but Totem says it can not play it, because "dvpp codec is not handled". I installed all additional codecs from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:47] <Matthai> any help?
[08:48] <Cold_FiRe> with compiz what do i download and is there an executable file like and rpm or deb file?
[08:48] <CorpseFeeder> i did type "xhost +" into a terminal window earlier today.. has that screwed up my access to cups configuration by any chance?
[08:48] <Rappermas> i also notice it's not done
[08:48] <gma> CorpseFeeder: no
[08:48] <omenemo> what would you do if you put a cd in the tray and then you did not have gui access to it?
[08:49] <CorpseFeeder> what does xhost + do anyway?
[08:49] <maddash> Matthai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-79bfba9a0e96d62a622a47430239a1d49454c953
[08:49] <oFF-beAt> at installtion.. it'll b better is the disk partitioning was more like what was in "mandriva"
[08:49] <Rappermas> oh well
[08:49] <Rappermas> i'll play with it
[08:50] <Rappermas> maybe someone has windows install discs so i can try this
[08:50] <oFF-beAt> ubuntu disk partition is not so easy.. havin multiple windows to go thru dun give u the idea fully
[08:50] <gma> CorpseFeeder: lets anybody (on any machine) connect to your X display
[08:50] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type xhost on it's own to show who's authorised
[08:50] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[08:51] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type xhost - to remove the perms you added
[08:51] <Scabdates> help me!!!
[08:51] <mneptok> Scabdates: please state the nature of the emergency.
[08:51] <Matthai> maddash, it doesnt help... can you try to watch this movie (it is "rar-ed", you have to unpack it first): http://dl.oblivion-lost.de/Faction_HD.rar
[08:51] <Cold_FiRe> do i have do download all of this?
[08:51] <Cold_FiRe> http://download.gna.org/gcm/gnome-compiz-manager/
[08:52] <Flannel> !compiz | Cold_FiRe
[08:52] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:52] <Cold_FiRe> yea but its a bit confusing... do i download all of those files
[08:52] <Scabdates> Alright. I've got one 30gb harddrive. I have about a 17 gb or so partition for linux with a 500 mb swap. The rest is for my original windows 2000 O/S. I don't have the windows 2000 boot disk. How can I remove Ubuntu entirely without windows 2000 data loss?
[08:52] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything.... (Updated I did a full scan 0 errors!)
[08:52] <Cold_FiRe> theres like 50 or is there and rpm or deb file
[08:52] <CorpseFeeder> gma: I type "xhost -" but I'm not sure it did anything.. it just responds "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect"
[08:53] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type just xhost to see who's authenticated. type xhost +, then type it again. then xhost -, and then xhost again
[08:53] <gma> CorpseFeeder: if you don't get it after that, read the man page.
[08:53] <seshomaru> hi , is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com repository?
[08:53] <maddash> Scabdates: use the ubuntu installer cd
[08:54] <Cold_FiRe> do i have to compile COMPIZ ????
[08:54] <maddash> Scabdates: just jump to the partition manager, and delete the ubuntu partition
[08:54] <Cold_FiRe> or is there a rpm or deb files
[08:54] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: if you read those pages, you get commands, to apt-get them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[08:54] <Scabdates> But then I can't boot to windows 2000 becuase grub is gone or am I smoking some type of drug?
[08:54] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: also, XGL/Beryl/etc support is in #ubuntu-xgl, not here.
[08:55] <Flannel> Scabdates: you need to find/make a windows disk, capable of running "fixmbr"
[08:55] <Flannel> Scabdates: or, install lilo
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: I googled for you
[08:55] <Scabdates> Where can I get info on lilo?
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: first hit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127549
[08:55] <z0d14k> I am trying to set my laptop up so I can do presentations.  I can get dual display working, and I can get the correct resolution.  It defaults to 85Hz though, and I want to be able to specify 60 and/or 75.  It isn't an option in krandrtray or monitor settings....Any ideas?
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: read jdong's answer
[08:55] <maddash> Scabdates: you're right. you'll need the windows cd you  don't have.
[08:55] <z0d14k> I see lots of posts in the forums about _increasing_ refresh rate, but none on _decreasing_ it.
[08:56] <nhamilton> hey all... can anyone recommend any good collaborative project management software? I'm running Ubuntu, but something web-based would be handy.
[08:57] <seshomaru> gma, reading...thanks
[08:57] <Scabdates> Flannel, do you know where I can download the windows 2000 professional boot disk? and if I do happen to find it will I be able to burn it as a cd instead of a floppy?
[08:57] <mneptok> Scabdates: you can boot to Ubuntu and use its installer to delete the partitions and make free space, or use a Windows app like Partition Magic. just do't touch the MBR.
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: it plays fine...
[08:57] <CorpseFeeder> the man pages for xhost are very fascinating I'm sure, but they are lost on me unfortunately :) I think I shall just not worry about that for now.
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: then again, I'm using vlc
[08:57] <Matthai> me too
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: "stalkers"?
[08:57] <Matthai> yes
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: did you install w32codecs?
[08:57] <Flannel> Scabdates: lilo is installable from the alternate CD, I'm not sure about how to do it from the Desktop CD
[08:57] <Matthai> I am just curious :-)
[08:57] <Matthai> yes, i have w32codesc
[08:58] <Flannel> Scabdates: no idea.  You might try asking in ##windows
[08:58] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: are you back yet?
[08:58] <Flannel> nhamilton: subversion?
[08:58] <Flannel> nhamilton: or, you want project management, not just version control.
[08:58] <redwyrm> nhamilton, plone
[08:58] <maddash> Matthai: what exactly does `vlc Faction...mov` return?
[08:58] <nhamilton> yeah - full project management... mainly for a 4 person team, including windows users
[08:59] <Scabdates> mneptok how do I know what the mbr is in the partition manager for linux?
[08:59] <redwyrm> nhamilton, http://plone.org/
[08:59] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: yeah. I think I found the error
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> What package provides the 'radeon' driver?
[08:59] <Cold_FiRe> 'sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-gnome' when i type anything with the sudo install command it says it 0 packages found.... where do i put the packages so it can be read
[08:59] <Matthai> maddash, nothing, I can hear the sound, but no video
[08:59] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: hoorah!!!
[08:59] <nhamilton> ok, cheers guys.. i'm checking it now
[08:59] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: change line 5 to Listen 631 instead of Port 631 and restart cups
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: you con make partitions free space. (g)parted will not touch the MBR unless told to do so. don't tell it to do so. ;)
[09:00] <redwyrm> nhamilton, actually I misread your question. better look at Trac instead: http://trac.edgewall.org/
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: grub-install is what you want to avoid.
[09:00] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you might need BrowseAllow 192.168.1.* as well
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: is this a Dell or some other big OEM machine?
[09:01] <Matthai> maddash, when I look at the info about video codec, it says dvpp
[09:01] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: where should I put browseallow?
[09:01] <mneptok> nhamilton: best bet is bzr among devs for branches, with SVN+Trac for trunk. :)
[09:02] <jordo23> ANyone here play SecondLife?
[09:02] <jordo23> On Edgy?
[09:02] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: in the beginning. and you need Allow 192.168.1.* in Location /admin/conf and Location /admin as well I think
[09:03] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[09:03] <maddash> Matthai: what version of vlc?
[09:04] <Ayabara> What is a good organizer/calendar to keep track of meetings and such?
[09:04] <Matthai> maddash, VLC media player 0.8.4 (wxWidgets interface)
[09:04] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: after all that - still no access, 403 again.
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: paste the new file please
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: and did you restart the server?
[09:05] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: and before you ask, yes cups was restarted
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: too late ;)
[09:05] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: damnit
[09:05] <maddash> Matthai: I'm not sure, but do you have libvlc0 installed? and I'm using .8.6svn[...] 
[09:06] <Scabdates> mnoptek can i completely remove the linux partition and swap with gparted?
[09:06] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2522/
[09:07] <matth2004> hey brosephs
[09:07] <frogzoo> Ayabara: evolution of course
[09:07] <kupesoft> I have 3 partitions already, how do I install an ext3 AND swap on the fourth?!
[09:07] <Matthai> maddash, hmm, it seems no. when I say sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep libvlc0
[09:07] <Matthai> I get nothing
[09:08] <frogzoo> kupesoft: you create an 'extended' partition, & create 2 partitions inside
[09:08] <maddash> Matthai: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <kupesoft> frogzoo, thanks!
[09:08] <Matthai> maddash, but libvlc0 package is not on the repositories...
[09:08] <cafuego_> Matthai: an eaier way: 'dpkg -l libvlc0'
[09:08] <CorpseFeeder> printer sharing with XP is pants. XP machines are on crack or something.... damn them.
[09:08] <maddash> Matthai: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libvlc0&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:09] <Scabdates> mneptok?
[09:09] <matth2004> yeh sharing files or anything on xp is crap
[09:09] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I think lines 18 and 19 are wrong. It's Allow blah not Allow From blah
[09:09] <Ayabara> frogzoo, hmm. evolution hasn't been nice to me. slow and with mysterious crashes. I use it with an exchange server
[09:09] <frogzoo> Ayabara: the prob is the exchange i/f, also, upgrade to edgy
[09:09] <Moose> How would I go about installing nfs?
[09:09] <mneptok> Scabdates: can you boot to Windows now?
[09:09] <matth2004> any linux distro especially ubuntu owns xp in networking
[09:10] <mneptok> Scabdates: is this a Dell or some other big OEM machine?
[09:10] <matth2004> dells are crap
[09:10] <Scabdates> im on windows right now
[09:10] <Scabdates> its a custom built rather low end machine
[09:10] <mneptok> Scabdates: do you have some non-destructve partition manager like Partition Magic?
[09:10] <Matthai> maddash, hm... sudo apt-get install libvlc0-dev (I have Dapper), I installed it, but it is not working
[09:11] <Scabdates> i have acronis partitioner and partitionmagic
[09:11] <iblicf> hi
[09:11] <Moose> How would I go about installing nfs?
[09:11] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: just out of interest, are all these changes you're sugesting to me based on any knowledge/experience, or are you just making them up as we go along? ;) nethertheless, I will now make those changes.
[09:11] <gma> !nfs
[09:11] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:11] <maddash> Matthai: try downloading the pkgs from the link, and doing a dpkg -i
[09:11] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I'd remove the Deny From All. I'm sure it's correct. I don't have it yet it seems to deny from everything else
[09:12] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I've set up a few cups servers but I wouldn't consider myself a cups expert
[09:12] <Scabdates> if i use partition magic will i be able to remove all traces of ubuntu but still be able to boot into windows 2000 pro?
[09:12] <mneptok> Scabdates: you can use PM to remve the Linux partitions (including swap) and meld them back into Windows
[09:13] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I'm using my own file as reference right now but I know how it works ;)
[09:14] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: give yourself a medal... the 403 forbidden message has quit bugging me
[09:14] <Scabdates> so if i go into partition magic, and i remove the linux partitions including swap ill still be able to boot into windows with GRUB?
[09:14] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: congrats
[09:14] <L1> Need help locating missing "Applications Places System" menus from Dapper menu panel.  Other panel apps OK
[09:14] <Ayabara> frogzoo, I am in Edgy, and I'll give it another try :-)
[09:15] <frogzoo> Ayabara: might not be worth it, the exchange i/f is meant to be badly kludged
[09:15] <mneptok> Scabdates: correct
[09:15] <CorpseFeeder> now my other problem.. trying to add this shared printer to XP :( that probably still isn't working. I will go look.
[09:16] <Cold_FiRe> no one is talking in the xgl channel
[09:16] <Scabdates> alright
[09:16] <Scabdates> ill give it a try
[09:16] <Ayabara> frogzoo, ok. then I must renew my question for another good calender app :-)
[09:16] <feengur> anyone here play ET?
[09:16] <mneptok> Scabdates: if you're booted to Windows you might be abse to run fixmbr from a shell and overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.
[09:16] <mneptok> *able
[09:17] <iain> My computer doesn't find grub after I installed Ubuntu.  How can I make it?
[09:17] <feengur> i just realised that I installed the amd64 Ubuntu and ET only offers 32-bit versions...
[09:17] <Flannel> !grub | iain, first link
[09:17] <ubotu> iain, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <feengur> how do i install with that?
[09:17] <feengur> i saw something like.... linux32 something.sh
[09:17] <feengur> but, invalid command
[09:17] <Matthai> maddash, sorry, I cant' find dicert link to .deb package... can you help please?
[09:17] <Flannel> !chroot | feengur
[09:17] <ubotu> feengur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:18] <feengur> thanks flan :D
[09:18] <iain> Flannel: thx, I'll look
[09:18] <Scabdates> alright i just went into partition magic and click delete on both linux partitions, so now after i restart and it applies the changes and then restarts again it will boot into regular windows?
[09:18] <Cold_FiRe> can anyone tell me why this doesnt work... i try the sudo install command and the only thing that comes up is 0 packages found
[09:18] <maddash> Matthai: did you go to my above link?
[09:18] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: did you add the repositories you were supposed to?
[09:18] <Cold_FiRe> then it says 0 paskages installed
[09:19] <mwe> Scabdates: grub will still be present
[09:19] <Cold_FiRe> wats that?
[09:19] <erpo> I need to use my quickcam express in Edgy. I can only find links to the source code for a driver. Is there a prebuilt deb for Edgy with the driver in it?
[09:19] <Matthai> maddash, yes, this one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libvlc0&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:19] <Matthai> maddash, Then I go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libvlc0-dev
[09:19] <Scabdates> ive heard that if grub doesnt detect ubuntu anymrore it will give me an error? is this true?
[09:19] <mwe> Scabdates: you need to boot the XP cd to the recovery console and do fixboot and fixmbr to get rid of it
[09:19] <Cold_FiRe> Flannel: whats repositories?
[09:19] <Matthai> but here I cant find link to .deb file... maybe I am blind... :-/
[09:19] <maddash> Matthai: click on "edgy"...and follow the links..
[09:20] <Matthai> I do not have edgy, I have dapper
[09:20] <Scabdates> im on windows 2000 pro and i dont have a boot disk
[09:20] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:20] <Cold_FiRe> 6.10
[09:20] <maddash> Matthai: should still work
[09:20] <Cold_FiRe> the new one
[09:20] <mneptok> Scabdates: if you're booted to Windows you might be able to run fixmbr from a shell and overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.
[09:20] <mneptok> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:20] <Matthai> OK... but I am here now: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libvlc0
[09:20] <maddash> ugh. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Flibvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=9512fc9e7b935e10ca057193cdb3ee7e&arch=i386&type=main
[09:21] <Scabdates> mneptok can you give me more info on that?
[09:21] <maddash> assuming you're using x86
[09:21] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: holy crap batman :) ...even adding the shared printer to the XP machine is working now,, without asking for any stupid non-existent password. woohoo! wonders will never cease.
[09:21] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: heh
[09:21] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: you need to enable universe, but actually, to run Compiz, you already need either XGL or AIGLX, read the first link paragraph on the page, follow the link
[09:22] <Cold_FiRe> k
[09:22] <maddash> Matthai: I have to go now, but try googling for an answer. chances are that you're not the first one to run into this problem
[09:22] <mwe> maddash: that's the ugliest URL I've seen in a while ;)
[09:22] <Matthai> maddash, ugh, it wont work... dpkg: considering removing vlc in favour of libvlc0 ...
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: no, cannot remove vlc (--auto-deconfigure will help):
[09:22] <Matthai>  mozilla-plugin-vlc depends on vlc (= 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6)
[09:22] <Matthai>   vlc is to be removed.
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: regarding libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb containing libvlc0:
[09:22] <Matthai>  libvlc0 conflicts with vlc (<< 0.8.6-svn20060911.0.8.5-1-svn.debian-3)
[09:22] <Matthai>   vlc (version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) is installed.
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: error processing libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:22] <Matthai>  conflicting packages - not installing libvlc0
[09:22] <Matthai> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:22] <Flannel> !paste | Matthai
[09:22] <ubotu> Matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <Matthai>  libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:22] <mwe> Matthai: stop
[09:23] <Matthai> sorry for this
[09:23] <mwe> Matthai: don't do that again
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> ok but how do i use the sudo install comand
[09:23] <maddash> Matthai: use a pastebin
[09:23] <maddash> !paste|grep matthai
[09:23] <ubotu> grep matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <maddash> !paste|matthai
[09:23] <ubotu> matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <maddash> gosh.
[09:23] <mneptok> Scabdates: no, i can't. i don't use Windows.
[09:23] <Scabdates> darn
[09:23] <Matthai> OK, I understand, sorry again for this
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> whats dapper  6.06(is it already in 6.10 ubuntu)
[09:23] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: You were using it correctly, you just didn't have universe enabled
[09:23] <nhamilton> thanks guys... i just checked  out those recommendations.. I'm really looking for something more along the lines of http://www.basecamphq.com/tour... it needs to have some basic business management as well on the project
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> how do i enable universe
[09:23] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: dapper is 6.06, you're running 6.10 (Edgy)
[09:23] <Scabdates> can anybody help me with this?
[09:24] <Flannel> !universe | Cold_FiRe
[09:24] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:24] <Matthai> OK, I will try to google it again (I used to do this before)
[09:24] <mneptok> Scabdates: it's not like Goggle returns 0 results for "restore xp mbr"
[09:24] <L1> Need help locating missing "Applications Places System" menus from Dapper menu panel.  Other panel apps OK
[09:24] <Scabdates> im on windows 2000 pro :P
[09:25] <Scabdates> mneptok
[09:25] <Scabdates> would this work?
[09:25] <Scabdates> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article: 216417 Describes how to install the Windows 2000 Recovery console to your hard disk. Note that if you install this tool to your local hard disk, Windows 2000 Recovery console is added as a choice on the Windows 2000 Startup menu.
[09:26] <mneptok> Scabdates: oh, then that makes all the differcence. no one has *EVER* documented the process of restoring a Win2K MBR ...
[09:26] <mwe> Scabdates: can't you just boot the XP cd and press R to get to it?
[09:26] <Scabdates> no boot disk
[09:26] <mwe> Scabdates: then type fixmbr and maybe fixboot once you get to it
[09:26] <mneptok> Scabdates: you don't HAVE a recovery console. you don't have a CD.
[09:26] <Scabdates> alright ill give that a try right now and get back to you fellas
[09:27] <mneptok> Scabdates: and now it's official. you want help with Windows. please /join ##windows and ask there.
[09:27] <WarriorMonk> Lol
[09:28] <mwe> mneptok: well uninstalling grub is linux related I think
[09:28] <preaction> mwe: you can't uninstall grub without putting something in its place
[09:29] <ubuntu> I followed the instructions on the wiki relating to GRUB, but my system still won't boot off the HDD.  Any idea what I can do?
[09:29] <mwe> preaction: I know
[09:29] <mwe> preaction: that's why I told him to use fixmbr from the XP CD
[09:29] <WarriorMonk> Network Interfaces: (#1 (Hamachi Network Interface (100Mb/s) 0.01MB In, 0.01MB Out) #2(Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (1000Mb/s) 0.03MB In, 0.03MB Out) #3(WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (115Kb/s) 29.51MB In, 0.83MB Out))
[09:30] <WarriorMonk> Wow 850+ users on here
[09:30] <mneptok> mwe: restoring ntldr is NOT Ubuntu related. and that's what he wanted to do.
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> Thats why I advocate make your damn backups!
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> And dont use IE
[09:31] <mwe> mneptok: ubuntu installed brub and didn't explain how to get rid of it. I think helping him doing that is in place
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> Whats a good program for backing up unix?
[09:31] <mwe> grub*
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> mneptok: What overwrote the ntldr
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> ?
[09:32] <WarriorMonk> What he do or try, a dual-boot?
[09:32] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: someone installed ubuntu and couldn't get rid of grub
[09:32] <mneptok> WarriorMonk: rsync
[09:32] <mneptok> EnsignRedshirt: grub
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> Ok...
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> I just have not used rsysnc enough
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> I do know that acronis has backup software
[09:40] <nothlit> !mondo
[09:40] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[09:40] <nothlit> !sbackup
[09:41] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[09:41] <christofkr> is somebody here who is familiar with the picard audio tagger?
[09:42] <aFlag> Hey. I was having trouble installing windows on my computer and then I did "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512". It deleted my partition table and the windows instalation started without any problems. But after editing my partition table with cfdisk, the instalation of windows doesn't even start (it locks on a black screen). Any ideas what could be the problem?
[09:43] <aFlag> Does linux uses a different partition table than dos, or something like that?
[09:44] <asciii> yes aFlag
[09:46] <aFlag> any ideas on how could I create a partition table that works on both systems?
[09:47] <someothernick> you installed windows after ubuntu?
[09:47] <aFlag> yes
[09:47] <aFlag> well, no, I'm trying to
[09:47] <aFlag> but I haven't install windows yet
[09:47] <gh0st> hello, how can i know the name of my machine ?
[09:47] <someothernick> oh
[09:48] <someothernick> do you have ubuntu installed?
[09:48] <aFlag> yes
[09:48] <redwyrm> look in /etc/hostname
[09:49] <asciii> or just type hostname
[09:49] <gh0st> ok thanks
[09:49] <gh0st> it didn't work for /etc/hostname but for hostname
[09:51] <fredl> I think my graphics card died :( I'm just seeing gibberish on the screen with some recognizable picture through it
[09:51] <nukeDev> unlucky
[09:51] <feengur> gah
[09:51] <nukeDev> could be the drivers
[09:51] <feengur> debootstrap doesn't seem to be doing anything
[09:51] <fredl> don't think so it has been working fine the way it is for quite some time and between last night when it still  worked and this morning nothing has changed.
[09:52] <Cold_FiRe_> ok well i have a network manager that i need to work but its in tar format and i dont know how to use it
[09:52] <oscar_> hello, can anybidy help me get codecs that will play old real media files?
[09:52] <fredl> so anyway I'm  looking for another card and I see this Asus EN6200LE, anybody using that?
[09:53] <fredl> it seems to be ridiculously cheap, only 40 euro.
[09:53] <someothernick> !hcl
[09:53] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <Moose> What does "psh" do as a command?
[09:53] <aFlag> fredl sometimes things change overnight when no one is looking
[09:53] <Cold_FiRe_> i installed network manager and need some help
[09:53] <mneptok> Moose: deflates
[09:53] <Cold_FiRe_> how to i config it?
[09:54] <bimberi> !info psh
[09:54] <ubotu> psh: interactive shell with the power of perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-6 (edgy), package size 155 kB, installed size 820 kB
[09:54] <Cold_FiRe_> it says no network or sumthing on the taskbar
[09:54] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i get to the settings
[09:54] <aFlag> fredl: I think intel video cards are cheap and they usually work fine
[09:54] <oscar_> right click it?
[09:54] <fredl> aFlag - uhuh :) like, the memory on your graphics card falls over =)
[09:54] <aFlag> but I don't know anything about that asus one
[09:54] <oscar_> left click actually i think
[09:54] <aFlag> Mine is from nvidia
[09:55] <fredl> aFlag - well it looks like it just has an nvidia 6200 which should work alright.
[09:55] <oscar_> you're not trying to setup a wpa connection are you?
[09:55] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i open the network manager
[09:56] <subzero800> anyone here familiar with ati/cedega?
[09:56] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i open the network manager thats all i want to know
[09:56] <nukeDev> hey how do you get 6.1 sound to work? the front two speakers are only working at the moment, also the sound is very bad quality, and the sound is 6.1 on-board (asus P4P800-E Deluxe)? Thanks.
[09:56] <subzero800> cold
[09:56] <subzero800> go to system
[09:56] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[09:57] <subzero800> admininstration
[09:57] <subzero800> network
[09:57] <subzero800> networking*
[09:57] <Cold_FiRe_> yea
[09:57] <nukeDev> thats it
[09:57] <Cold_FiRe_> and dissbale from there then log out then back in, how do i input my wep key
[09:57] <fredl> it's funny though, if you look at http://mycom.nl/Products/View/ASUS_EN7900GS2DHT256M%2c_256MB/126666.aspx it says '256M effective memory' but at the bottom of the page it says 64Mb
[09:57] <bimberi> !networkmanager
[09:57] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[09:58] <Cold_FiRe_> yea for that
[09:58] <nukeDev> yeh it says 'effective memory' not the actual memory of the card
[09:58] <nukeDev> !5.1
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <nukeDev> !6.1
[09:58] <Cold_FiRe_> i cant figure out where to type in the wep key
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <nukeDev> !sound
[09:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:58] <fredl> so it steals memory from your mainboard?
[09:58] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: did you install network-manager-gnome?
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> yes
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> where do i go to type in the wep key
[09:59] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: then click its icon in the top panel
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> yea
[09:59] <nukeDev> hey how do you get 5.1 sound to work? the front two speakers are only working at the moment, also the sound is very bad quality, and the sound is 5.1 on-board (asus P4P800-E Deluxe)? Thanks.
[09:59] <fredl> Cold_FiRe_, it should give you a popup asking for the WEP key actually if your card is supported.
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> !sound
[09:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> wats a good irc for linux
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> ubuntu
[10:00] <mneptok> complicated, eh? :P
[10:00] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: irssi
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> that in a dev or rpm format
[10:00] <frogzoo> !sound | nukeDev
[10:00] <ubotu> nukeDev: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> is that in dev or rpm
[10:00] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: or do you need a GUI?
[10:00] <someothernick> xchat
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> no but its beter to have one
[10:01] <someothernick> kvirc is nice also
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> is it in a deb or rpm?
[10:01] <frogzoo> nukeDev: also, use the xine engine, not gstreamer which is glitchy
[10:01] <fredl> so an nvidia 6200 GPU.... not the very latest I'd assume, but if you hardly play games, just tuxracer every now and again and googleearth....
[10:01] <someothernick> sudo apt-get install xchat
[10:01] <fredl> that would work nicely, right?
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> wait, does that mean i need internet to download it
[10:01] <someothernick> yes
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> well then the network manager first
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> well thanx
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> ill be back soon when i get it working
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> thnx
[10:02] <nukeDev> !xine engine
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine engine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <vinboy_> hi
[10:03] <vinboy_> how do I check if any package is depending on <abc package> before I remove it?
[10:03] <[SilverFox] > Anyone know if its possible use dell truemobile dw1450?
[10:04] <cypher1> vinboy_: apt does not remove the package if some other package depends on it.. unless you forcibly remove it
[10:04] <XVampireX> Don't you people wonder why (If you use wine) you got an update to wine package from the official repositories?
[10:04] <vinboy_> cypher1: yes I want to do apt-get remove <package>, will it tell me if other package is depending on it?
[10:05] <cypher1> vinboy_: yes
[10:05] <Elowaun> Is badmem patch already implemented in kernel 2.6.17-generic?
[10:05] <J03pk3> hello
[10:05] <J03pk3> i have a question about Edubuntu
[10:05] <vinboy_> thanks cypher1
[10:05] <frogzoo> Elowaun: mebbe check /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:06] <[SilverFox] > hey guys what does one do when there dell wifi card in there i8600 does not exsist!?
[10:06] <J03pk3> my environment (screen 0 trough 6) boots in ltsp environment, but my X in " normal environment"
[10:06] <feengur> can i get some help installing a 32 bit app on 64 dapper?
[10:08] <nukeDev> feengur: what app?
[10:08] <Elowaun> !badmem
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badmem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <feengur> Enemy Territory
[10:09] <feengur> i didn't even think about it before i installed the amd64 version :P
[10:09] <[SilverFox] > wtb dw1450
[10:09] <nukeDev> feengur: are you using wine or cedega?
[10:10] <feengur> neither
[10:10] <feengur> it's a linux build
[10:10] <nukeDev> o right
[10:10] <feengur> but it's x86 arch
[10:10] <nukeDev> i aint sure then, i have done it with wine before
[10:10] <nukeDev> sorry
[10:10] <feengur> someone posted about debootstrap, but most of the links are dead on that page anyway :P
[10:10] <feengur> nah, it's cool :D
[10:11] <fredl> huh, the nvidia 7600 is not supported on Ubuntu?
[10:11] <feengur> thanks anyway
[10:11] <feengur> yeah it is fred
[10:11] <feengur> < 7600 gt
[10:11] <nukeDev> fredl: use the new nvidia drivers
[10:11] <fredl> doesn't say it on the Hardware supported page I think.
[10:11] <feengur> it is :P
[10:11] <nukeDev> so that dont mean it isnt supported
[10:12] <feengur> are you running the 32 bit version? or 64?
[10:12] <fredl> well I don't have the card yet, just looking around to see what I should buy
[10:12] <fredl> and I'm running 32 bit
[10:12] <feengur> 7600gt ftw! :P
[10:12] <[SilverFox] > anyone know what one does to look for a driver? Cuz I mean been at it all night I really like us ubuntu but it did not install my wificard built in its a dell laptop.... is there no way? am i screwed???
[10:12] <feengur> XFX core
[10:12] <J03pk3> Does anyone know how it can be that my environment (screen 0 trough 6) boots in ltsp environment, but my X in " normal environment" ?
[10:13] <fredl> what's the difference between GT and GS feengur?
[10:13] <frogzoo> fredl: nvidia is pretty good about linux, I'd think they're all supported, but check the docs
[10:13] <frogzoo> !nvidia | fredl
[10:13] <ubotu> fredl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <feengur> GS is just hardware heavy
[10:13] <feengur> GT's are usually oc'ed
[10:14] <nukeDev> always get the GT's
[10:14] <feengur> XFX Nvidia GeForce 7600GT 256mb PCIE  $150
[10:14] <fredl> http://mycom.nl/Products/View/ASUS_EN7600GS_TOP_SILENTHTD512M/122729.aspx
[10:14] <feengur> 590mhz gpu , 1600mhz mem clock
[10:14] <feengur> 20 pixel pipelines
[10:14] <feengur> it's phenomenal
[10:14] <fredl> that's 145 euros, 7600GS, 512Mb PCIE
[10:14] <feengur> and it runs cool as well.  easy to oc even more
[10:15] <Jiraiya> salut
[10:15] <fredl> you checked that URL feengur? seems like a pretty good deal.
[10:15] <feengur> that's decent
[10:16] <feengur> but i don't trust ASUS for the gpu's
[10:16] <fredl> completely noiseless too.
[10:16] <feengur> they seem to burn out easily
[10:16] <[SilverFox] > anyone know where find a itc room for ubuntu support or help?
[10:16] <[SilverFox] > irc*
[10:16] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : see the topic ^^^
[10:16] <feengur> this is the channel for that silver :P
[10:17] <fredl> Hmm, I think that's what happened to my ATI card too, a while ago it started getting hot so I installed a Zalman cooler, it worked fine after that but I think it gave up finally
[10:17] <feengur> unless you are looking for fiesty support
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > lol i asked same question 10 times so i dont know what to do anymore
[10:17] <feengur> what's the question?  i just got back a min ago
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > i guess no one knows the ubuntu enough to help me ;) theres no true man :D
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > anyone know what one does to look for a driver? Cuz I mean been at it all night I really like us ubuntu but it did not install my wificard built in its a dell laptop.... is there no way? am i screwed???
[10:18] <feengur> ahhh
[10:18] <feengur> have you checked the device manager already?
[10:18] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : wifi support is patchy, it totally depends who made your card
[10:18] <feengur> is it reporting in there?
[10:18] <[SilverFox] > dont see it not sure how look though :) its a dell card
[10:18] <[SilverFox] > dell truemobile dw1450
[10:18] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : what does 'sudo lspci' say it is?
[10:19] <feengur> koekje erbij?
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> Hello!
[10:19] <feengur> hehe ^^
[10:19] <[SilverFox] > hold on a sec gotta boot it from stanby ehhe
[10:19] <feengur> fredl nl?
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> Does anyone know why I can't install .tar.gz files?
[10:19] <tim__b> Spasticteapot you need to unpack them
[10:19] <lynucs> its an archive
[10:19] <feengur> lol
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> I do.
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > lol i cant even find the ssh window :(
[10:20] <wims> I use two monitors with a big desktop (ati mergedfb) , when i open a game it spans across both monitors. Is it possible to force it so that it only opens on one of my monitors instead of both ?
[10:20] <feengur> are you in X atm silver?
[10:20] <Spasticteapot> tar xzvf /home/me/Desktop/file.
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > yes n/m i found it
[10:20] <feengur> wims, what type of card you using?
[10:20] <wims> ati 9600xt
[10:20] <feengur> oh nm
[10:20] <feengur> kk
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > wow
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Stupid wifi...
[10:21] <[SilverFox] > install corp
[10:21] <[SilverFox] > yes it loads it
[10:21] <feengur> you have a control panel under applications>system tools?
[10:21] <feengur> for ati
[10:21] <lynucs> Spasticteapot, are you sure that that are installation files
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Anyway... I go tar xzvf (file directory/file), and it more or less works.
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Usually errors occur.
[10:22] <Spastic_teapot> I'm trying to install Airstrike - it's an arcade game.
[10:22] <nukeDev> hey i am trying to edit my x11 config file, so i type "sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf" but i only get a blank page, and when i try open the directory by "cd /etc/x11/" it says that it doesnt exist? Any Ideas?
[10:22] <feengur> nuke
[10:22] <lynucs> i guess the files aren't just .deb -packages, right, Spastic_teapot ?
[10:22] <frogzoo> nukeDev: capital X
[10:22] <feengur> linux is case sensitive
[10:22] <Spastic_teapot> Don't think so, no.
[10:22] <feengur> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <freaky_> i install flash-nonfree and it created symlinks in the plugins directory for the browser, but the links are broken (they point to non-existant file) any ideas?
[10:23] <matsyes> hi is it possible to download ubuntu packages ...store them and then later install them on ones comp which is not online using synaptic
[10:23] <cikho> !list
[10:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:23] <matsyes> ???
[10:23] <nukeDev> frogzoo: thanks forgot about that
[10:23] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, then there should be a readme file
[10:23] <lynucs> or install-file
[10:23] <lynucs> where the programmer tells you how to install
[10:23] <lynucs> id the files are binaries
[10:23] <Spastic_teapot> Nothing useful.
[10:23] <Spastic_teapot> It just says it's a snapshot.
[10:23] <oFF-beAt> this channel makes me feel good.. knowing that i'm not the only noob here
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop.
[10:24] <EmxBA> hi, I need two things.. first, how to delete Places menu from menus? and how to set up window titles so they don't take much place on desktop, if window title is XChat: EmxBA@freenode to make that "Xchat: Emx...."
[10:24] <feengur> matsyes you can check the archives and just d/l the deb files
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> Headaches galore...but at least it does'nt constantly crash!
[10:24] <[SilverFox] > bah i found wifi settings but there no way to do without knowing the ESSID?
[10:24] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, airstrike isnt in the ubuntu repository??
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> WinXP would'nt even boot right.
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> I don't think so...I'll check.
[10:24] <freaky_> [SilverFox] : install gnome-network-manager
[10:25] <matsyes> feengur:i downloaded a couple of .deb files but synaptic didnt seem to recognize them
[10:25] <tim__b> matsyes: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:26] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, look: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/Ubuntu_Spiele?highlight=%28airstrike%29
[10:26] <lynucs> the packet is called airstrike.. just install i with synaptic
[10:26] <KEAL> "while working on ubuntu, you hardly notice the diamond smuggling task in the background."
[10:26] <feengur> gah, ich muss schlaffe
[10:26] <feengur> guten nacht
[10:26] <KEAL> nite
[10:27] <wims_> feengur, I got disconnected:/ I have an ATi 9600xt
[10:27] <feengur> lol
[10:27] <feengur> i was about to goto bed :P
[10:27] <feengur> anyway
[10:27] <KEAL> n8 feengur
[10:27] <feengur> you have a control panel under Applications>System Tools for the card?
[10:27] <feengur> thanks keal :D
[10:27] <KEAL> :)
[10:27] <wims_> feengur, nope
[10:28] <wims_> I'm using the open source driver, not the one provided by ATi
[10:28] <feengur> ahh
[10:28] <oFF-beAt> nice quit msg
[10:28] <[SilverFox] > bah frig whys everything so complicated
[10:28] <feengur> open up your xorg.conf and put the contents in the paste bin.  then post the link
[10:28] <[SilverFox] > im getting errors trying install lol
[10:29] <feengur> i'll brb
[10:29] <[SilverFox] > Network manager cannot be install on your computer type (i386)
[10:29] <[SilverFox] > :(
[10:29] <wims_> feengur, http://pastebin.ca/324433
[10:29] <matsyes> tim__b:also one more thing is there a way to download edgy eft directly and then upgrade and not via the iso file but using packages ???
[10:30] <tim__b> you can update via the synaptic update manager
[10:31] <tim__b> it downloads all new packages and installs them
[10:31] <mneptok> [SilverFox] : sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[10:31] <[SilverFox] > ok ty
[10:31] <spasticteapot> stupid wifi lag...
[10:31] <spasticteapot> Regardless, I really need to install this: http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner
[10:31] <mneptok> matsyes: upgrade Edgy to what ...?
[10:32] <spasticteapot> I have the .zip, and have uncompressed it. What to do with it, I don't know.
[10:32] <tim__b> mneptok seems like updating TO edgy
[10:32] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, so do you have your airstrike now? :D
[10:33] <spasticteapot> Yup!
[10:33] <mneptok> tim__b: "download edgy eft directly and then upgrade" has me asking
[10:33] <spasticteapot> I need to install this, though: http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner
[10:33] <spasticteapot> It's actually somewhat important.
[10:33] <feengur> back
[10:33] <spasticteapot> I have the .zip...and it's certianly not a .deb file I get!
[10:34] <mneptok> spasticteapot: heh, written by Karollina@Maemo :)
[10:34] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, any install or readme files?
[10:34] <spasticteapot> Is that funny for a particular reason?
[10:34] <spasticteapot> Readme is useless.
[10:34] <[SilverFox] > sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome = couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched "network-manager-gnome"
[10:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Can gaim be set up to beep or play a sound when my nick shows up?
[10:34] <lynucs> why useless
[10:34] <lynucs> [SilverFox] , maybe gnome-network-manager
[10:34] <mneptok> spasticteapot: only that i know her
[10:35] <[SilverFox] > kk
[10:35] <yopad> hey guys
[10:35] <yopad> can you help me install my wireless
[10:35] <[SilverFox] > nope :( lol cursed!
[10:35] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: probably.  Most people switch to real IRC clients before thinking about that though ;)
[10:35] <yopad> or direct metoa good manual
[10:35] <erUSUL> !wifi
[10:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:35] <matsyes> mneptokyeah i wanna upgrade to edgy eft
[10:35] <lynucs> [SilverFox] , sudo apt-get update
[10:35] <mneptok> [SilverFox] : check what repos you have enabled
[10:35] <lynucs> then
[10:36] <lynucs> sudo apt-get install gnome-network
[10:36] <lynucs> or gnome-nettool
[10:36] <matsyes> tim__b:i dont have a net connection on my ubuntu comp
[10:36] <lynucs> dunno which one you need
[10:36] <matsyes> mneptok: yeah i wanna upgrade to edgy eft
[10:36] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Gaim works for me (and seems real enough), but what IRC client would you recommend?
[10:36] <spasticteapot> Wow, I suck at IRC.
[10:36] <mneptok> matsyes: from?
[10:36] <spasticteapot> Mneptok, tell her to check out diyaudio.com.
[10:37] <spasticteapot> THere's a lot of folks there who would appreicate it.
[10:37] <tim__b> matsyes, like i remeber, synaptic has a function to download packages for a non-intener machine at a internet-machine
[10:37] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, xchat is nice
[10:37] <spasticteapot> I'm sort of a DIY speaker hobbyist myself.
[10:37] <matsyes> tim__b:and iso files have an irritating tendency to often end up with read write errors
[10:37] <foutrelis> morning! :P
[10:37] <spasticteapot> Xchat is good.
[10:37] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: the standard one in Ubuntu (in main) is "xchat-gnome", but a lot of people lamented the change to the -gnome version, and prefer just plain "xchat" (in universe)
[10:37] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Do you know if xchat can beep when my nick is used?
[10:38] <feengur> wims
[10:38] <wims_> yeap ?
[10:38] <feengur> have you tried altering the Merged vars?
[10:38] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, i'll have to check.. i'm a recent convert to ubuntu.. from windows.. so i was more used to mirc heheh i'll check though
[10:38] <spasticteapot> Here's a tutorial on the software I'm trying to install that I can't make heads nor tales of. http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner/instructions.php
[10:38] <spasticteapot> mIRC is pretty similar to Xchat.
[10:38] <yopad> question: why does the install from the live cd configure my wireless but the alternate doesnt?
[10:38] <feengur> i think MergedXinerama or MergedFB are the vars that are giving you that kind of trouble
[10:38] <tim__b> matsyes, you can add a cdrom as a backport via "sudo sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[10:39] <yopad> i have problems with the live cd...so slow...
[10:39] <wims_> feengur,  If i use mergedb  "false" then i only get cloned desktop
[10:39] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Don't go crazy finding out :) I can check too... just thought I'd see if you knew already.
[10:39] <tim__b> matsyes, so you don't have so run the install/upgrad routine
[10:39] <oFF-beAt> check preferences > sound
[10:39] <feengur> hmm
[10:39] <wims_> feengur, i want a big desktop, but when i play games i only want it to display on one of the monitors
[10:39] <oFF-beAt> u may find it there.. if u don't u can always write ur own script :P
[10:40] <timbobsteve> hey all
[10:40] <timbobsteve> can anyone help me trace a broken package problem?
[10:40] <feengur> i'm not too farmiliar with the ati dual monitor support through ubuntu, but i think you may have to write a script to make it work like that
[10:41] <kleftisx> what is the valid format for Ubuntu Themes on 6.10??
[10:41] <wims_> feengur, ok, right now i use two xorg.conf's and a script that renames them. It's not ideal, i'll play with it to see if i can fix it.  thanks anyway.
[10:41] <feengur> yeah
[10:41] <dromer> !vice
[10:42] <ubotu> vice: The Versatile Commodore Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.19-1 (edgy), package size 3231 kB, installed size 8832 kB
[10:42] <feengur> soz bud
[10:42] <feengur> i'll try to figure it out
[10:42] <matsyes> mneptok:from 6.06
[10:42] <[SilverFox] > i hate my life
[10:42] <foutrelis> [SilverFox] : ?
[10:42] <[SilverFox] > well all these things dont work hehe
[10:42] <EnsignRedshirt_> Well, here I am in xchat.
[10:43] <matsyes> tim__b:how do you exercise that option
[10:43] <Spastic_teapot> Does anyone know what qmake does?
[10:43] <EnsignRedshirt> ...and here I am in gaim.  Side by side comparison.
[10:43] <Spastic_teapot> I'm trying to install a program, and qmake does'nt seem to do anything.
[10:43] <matsyes> hi i'm sorry about the delay my connections pretty bad right now
[10:44] <foutrelis> !qmake
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <freaky_> Spastic_teapot: make for qt applications
[10:45] <timbobsteve> i cannot install libpng12-dev... it complains that libpng12-dev(1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1) is installed.... what do I do?
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt_: Testing...
[10:45] <Spastic_teapot> Huh?
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt_: One more test, and I'll stop...
[10:46] <kleftisx> where is the directory of Themes????
[10:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Now, besides the neat little 'tink' that xchat makes when my nick is used, what can I do with xchat that I can't do with gaim?
[10:47] <feengur> wims
[10:47] <wims> yeap
[10:47] <feengur> i think i may have found something that will help
[10:47] <wims> yeah?
[10:47] <feengur> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245250&highlight=ATI+Dual+Monitors
[10:47] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, u can script it.. very flexible.. lots of plugins
[10:47] <wims> cheers, i'll check it out :)
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Stupid wifi...
[10:48] <spasticteapot> Why am I constantly losing my connection?
[10:48] <spasticteapot> Regardless..where do I get qmake?
[10:48] <feengur> only problem seems to be that it turns your monitor off while ingame
[10:48] <feengur> or just blanks it
[10:48] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Scripting is cool, but I don't see myself hacking xchat scripts.
[10:48] <wims> feengur,  i guess i cant have it all :D
[10:48] <feengur> lol
[10:49] <spasticteapot> Stupid enigmatic QT....
[10:49] <feengur> kk, it's bedtime :P
[10:49] <feengur> gnite
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Well, I'm installing anything possibly related to QT.
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Lets' hope that one of the files i'm installing off the repository will work.
[10:51] <i687> Hello all
[10:52] <i687> I was wondering, would u guys recommend me to go with the server edition of ubuntu 6.0 TLS or the edgy version?
[10:53] <freaky_> i687: depends on what u use it for i guess... on servers i'd go with the TLS cuz it will have longer support
[10:53] <i687> oh that means... that you get udpates and stuff like that?
[10:54] <EnsignRedshirt_> I lied... one more test
[10:56] <[ubuntu] biz__> I am wondering Where is Vim(or gVim)-plugin..
[10:56] <freaky_> i687: yea security updates n such
[10:56] <[ubuntu] biz__> I am wondering Where is Vim(or gVim)-plugin folder..
[10:56] <EnsignRedshirt_> Ah, I found the option in gaim for playing a sound when my nick is used.
[10:56] <i687> well... then what I am wondering, is I still get security updates with edgy version, right?
[10:57] <i687> or will the security updates fo edgy stop when the new ubuntu version is released?
[10:57] <EnsignRedshirt> i687: Security updates will continue
[10:58] <[SilverFox] > i guess i cant get wireless
[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> i687: I forgot for how long, but it is definitely past the next release.
[10:58] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, i hate when irc/im plays sounds.. interrupts my music
[10:59] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Wow, both gaim and xchat sounded off on that one :)
[11:00] <[ubuntu] biz__> anyone help...where is my vim(gvim) plugin folder?
[11:00] <matsyes> tim__b: hi i got disconnected ... u were saying
[11:00] <tim__b> pasted you some text in query, haven't you got it?
[11:02] <CorpseFeeder> this is unbelievable. just spent all day trying to make this printer share with the XP machine, and that succeeded, then I found the Macs can no longer access it. I went back to the XP machine and now it can't access the printer again aaaargh!! The tick has vanished from Share Printers in Global Settings and I cannot get the tick to stay.
[11:02] <CorpseFeeder> i give up.
[11:03] <redwyrm> CorpseFeeder, go smoke some cannabis
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[11:03] <redwyrm> :)
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> apt-get install wacky-weed
[11:04] <nukeDev> lol
[11:04] <nukeDev> crack heads
[11:05] <nukeDev> i have chaneged the X11 config to have a higher screen resolution but it still aint in the screen resolution menu
[11:05] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: did you share it through samba or CUPS? i generally get better printer sharing by going through cups.
[11:06] <nukeDev> any ideas?
[11:06] <CorpseFeeder> terminus: cups
[11:06] <nukeDev> !resolution
[11:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:06] <bostik> hi all
[11:06] <bostik> only a question on edgy
[11:06] <[ubuntu] biz__> !gvim
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: so you when you add printers to winxp, the address is something like http://192.168.0.5:631/printers/My_Printer?
[11:07] <bostik> when i try to install via livecd
[11:07] <[ubuntu] biz__> !vim
[11:07] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:07] <bostik> it reads apt sources ??
[11:07] <mneptok> nukeDev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <mneptok> bostik: yes, so?
[11:07] <bostik> the question is if i change my apt and i put an online source does it install from network ??
[11:08] <Cold_FiRe> ok well i figured out some stuff
[11:08] <Cold_FiRe> probly the modem is registering me as a guest
[11:08] <CorpseFeeder> terminus: i had all the Macs on the network printing to the printer through cups sharing, but the one XP machine on the network refused to work. I finally got it working by spending nearly the whole day in here, only to then find the Macs no longer worked with it. :(
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> i can connect but then it says forbiden
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> read this
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> cant*
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> cant connect*
[11:09] <CorpseFeeder> and now the XP machine don't want to work either because the "share printers" thing in global settings won't stay ticked
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i can ping google
[11:11] <wims> then you're connected
[11:11] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: hmmm... weird. anyway, you could just configure both CUPS and samba and use whichever works. :)
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i can go on it (very slowly)
[11:11] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  maybe it's a DNS problem ?
[11:11] <wims> ohh
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i cant ping anything else
[11:11] <wims> then it's not a dns problem, wouldnt be if you where able to ping google though
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> and when i go on firefox i can go to google
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> but for a second
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> then it says its forbiden and permission denied
[11:12] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  are you a long distance from your router ?
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> no
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> it has 80% connection most of the time
[11:13] <Cold_FiRe> oh and gnome network manager thing doesnt work anymore... i cant figure out why, it wont start at all
[11:13] <Cold_FiRe> i went to the autorun folder in the filesystem and opened the network manager and nothing came up, the first time i used it a lil icon apeard
[11:14] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  try to type this in your console : sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 11M auto
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:14] <wims> change eth0 to whats your network card
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> but i think its just registered as a guest on the router
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:15] <wims> then you wouldnt be able to ping google
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> hmmmm
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> ok well if i want to use a network manager, anyone know one thats in deb format (i figured out i cant use rpm)
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> i tried instaling VMware its in rpm format and it didnt work
[11:16] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  there's an application that's allready installed that works OK
[11:16] <wims> System->administration->networking
[11:16] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: use alien to convert the rpm to deb. make sure you use the run scripts option.
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> so anyone know a network manager? in deb format
[11:16] <nixen9> anyone running a Hercules Digifire/Fortissimo II without any (volume) problem here ?
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !alien
[11:17] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, u gotta make .deb files with alien from .rpm.. if u want to install .rpm files
[11:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> but its quite dangerous???
[11:17] <wikiwurm> hi all. first time to be here.
[11:17] <heatxsink_> hello alll i'm running edgy, and I"m having a problem with loading nvidia kernel drivers anyone else have this problem?
[11:17] <wikiwurm> can somebody tell me how to open a port in ubuntu server 6.0.6
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> wims: thats good but is there anything else
[11:18] <someothernick> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: worked well enough with vmware for me. if you don't trust it, don't use it. =P
[11:18] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  dunno, i usually just use the command line
[11:18] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: there's always the tarball...
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> lol ok sounds cool
[11:19] <Cold_FiRe> idk how to use tar files so im not going there unless i really know what im doing
[11:19] <kleftisx> hello how i can read the Windows partittion from Ubuntu????
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> max:opps
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> !tar
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <mneptok> wikiwurm: what are you trying to do?
[11:20] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, tar zxvf file.tar        n cd to dir/   usually u get a readme file on how install
[11:20] <wikiwurm> i want to configure nagios and omniback. so these other servers needs some open ports
[11:21] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> oFFbeAt: ??? what
[11:22] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, heh sorry read that link bot jus gave u.. it explains more clearly
[11:22] <kleftisx> hello how i can read the Windows partittion from Ubuntu????
[11:22] <mneptok> !ntfs > kleftisx
[11:22] <fotoflo_> i am setting up proftpd and i need to specify a group, group "nobody" is no good... whats a good group?
[11:22] <sentinelxx> !ntfs
[11:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:22] <mneptok> fotoflo_: ftpd
[11:23] <wims> my win partitions are automatically detected on install though
[11:23] <wikiwurm> mneptok ubuntu lts 6.0.6 is blocking nearly all ports
[11:23] <Vich|Away> !bot abuse | hey everyone
[11:23] <ubotu> hey everyone: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[11:23] <wims> have been a while
[11:23] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, installin stuff from tar takes 4 steps usually.. extract, /.configure, make, make install
[11:23] <Vich|Away> lol
[11:23] <wims> since hoary (?)
[11:23] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default
[11:23] <fotoflo_> mneptok, and the user? ftp?
[11:23] <fotoflo_> or both ftpd?
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> how
[11:23] <vandenoever> hi guys, is this the right place to ask something about installing ubuntu-server with a special driver?
[11:23] <wikiwurm> http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[11:23] <mneptok> fotoflo_: who does proftpd run as?
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> can u tell me the steps?
[11:23] <vandenoever> for dapper
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> or tell me sumwhere i can get them
[11:23] <Flannel> !compile | Cold_FiRe
[11:23] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:24] <fotoflo_> mneptok, root
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> thanx
[11:24] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default. i promise you.
[11:24] <fotoflo_> is that a bad call?
[11:24] <mneptok> fotoflo_: uhhh. really bad idea.
[11:24] <wikiwurm> mneptok. sure? you have read the page http://www.ubuntu.com/server. i mean the server edition
[11:24] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: however, you're doing an awful lot of compiling, Have you searched in the repositories?
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> wait.... it says 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' doesnt that line need internet
[11:24] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, read that link ot gave u abt .tar .gz stuff.. n after exracting ur tar ball.. change the directry to the dir, that just got extracted,, inside u'll find readme, install notes
[11:24] <mneptok> wikiwurm: i am 100% sure.
[11:24] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  so i can make a "ftpd" user, and an ftpd group, right?
[11:24] <sentinelxx> Is it possible to have more than 1 NTFS drive mounted at any given time?
[11:24] <fotoflo_> and then it should work?
[11:25] <Terminus-> sentinelxx: yes.
[11:25] <wikiwurm> The Ubuntu Server has no open ports after the installation and contains only the essential software needed to build a secure server.
[11:25] <Flannel> wikiwurm: server edition is no different than desktop edition, well, special kernel, other than that, it's just default packages
[11:25] <incorrect> question,  what is 'bigiorn' server kernel?
[11:25] <vandenoever> wikiwurm: yes, it does not even have ssh
[11:25] <Flannel> wikiwurm: no open ports doesn't mean any blocked ports--just no listening services
[11:25] <Terminus-> wikiwurm: it has no open ports by default because nothing is running on it. iptables does not block anything by default.
[11:25] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, it does if u have repositories set to internet repos.. if u have sources on cd/dvd or somehere on a local machine.. u can install it offline too
[11:25] <ademan> i'm kinda interested in getting a USB tv tuner, which ones if any work with ubuntu/linux?  Is there a compatibility list somewhere?
[11:25] <Terminus-> bah... Flannel beat me to it. i hate qwerty keyboards.
[11:25] <wikiwurm> okay, maybe no listening services.  sorry, but im a linux newbe ;-)
[11:26] <nixen9> anyone running a Hercules Digifire/Fortissimo II without any (volume) problem here ? the module is cs46xx and it's working but the volume is way too low
[11:26] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no daemons pre-installed that would answer on a port, but the ports *are not blocked*
[11:26] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to make .rec files of the sort needed by pvrs for example?
[11:26] <Cold_FiRe> ok where can i get it.. ive got 6.10 ubuntu so is it preinstalled?
[11:26] <Cold_FiRe> or on the cd
[11:26] <Vich|Away> ubotu, you're my only friend
[11:26] <wikiwurm> okay, than how i have to configure it, that a nagios and a backupserver get access to my ubuntu box?
[11:27] <Vich|Away> !friend | Vich
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Vich|Away> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:27] <Vich|Away> you have betrayed me for the last time
[11:27] <mneptok> wikiwurm: what does Nagios use to query remate hosts?
[11:27] <Vich|Away> remate hosts
[11:27] <Cold_FiRe> lol VIch
[11:27] <Vich|Away> hmm
[11:27] <Vich|Away> are you sure they mated in the first place?
[11:27] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:27] <oFFbeAt> lol
[11:28] <Vich|Away> and had baby subnets
[11:28] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:28] <wikiwurm> i do not have the documentation with me, because i have to use the visitors office in our company to get access to this chat ;-)
[11:28] <oFFbeAt> Vich|Away, u cud help him instead of makin fun
[11:28] <wikiwurm> nagios will check, if the server is up and running, if the mysql db is up and running. i think this is the most important thing
[11:29] <Vich|Away> true
[11:29] <fotoflo_> mneptok, so i should adduser ftp -s /dev/null and addgroup ftpd?
[11:29] <Vich|Away> but I think at this hour, I'm better at making fun
[11:29] <mneptok> wikiwurm: well, the port is not blocked. you just need to install whatever Nagios needs to query it remotely
[11:29] <wikiwurm> and also apache2
[11:29] <fotoflo_> mneptok, what is a GID?
[11:29] <Vich|Away> I should be doing it elsewhere
[11:29] <Cold_FiRe> where can i download alien?
[11:29] <wims> anybody know how i can move whats displayed on my monitor to the left / right? I mean the entire desktop, not just a window.
[11:29] <Vich|Away> but needless to say, I get banished from many channels
[11:29] <mneptok> fotoflo_: Group ID
[11:29] <Vich|Away> ;p
[11:29] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, sudo apt-get install alien
[11:30] <fotoflo_> mneptok, yah, but is it useful?
[11:30] <Cold_FiRe> damn
[11:30] <wikiwurm> hmm, apache2, mysql, etc is installed and my webserver is running, but i get no acces with nagios
[11:30] <mneptok> Vich|Away: history is about to repeat if you don't stop the offtopic chatter in here ;)
[11:31] <mneptok> fotoflo_: are you sure you need FTP? you need to grant access to the machine to people without accounts?
[11:31] <fotoflo_> mneptok, yeah
[11:31] <fotoflo_> no
[11:31] <fotoflo_> i want only to grant access to people with accounts
[11:31] <mneptok> then do NOT use FTP
[11:31] <fotoflo_> ill turn off anon ftp
[11:32] <mneptok> no, do not use it *at all*
[11:32] <fotoflo_> dosnt matter really, im not going to port-forward the ftp port
[11:32] <Vich|Away> you mis understood me mneptok, my words were the proposol for a free novel that I plan to distribute via apt for all ubuntu users about the irc community and their response to random and spontaneous stimuli
[11:32] <fotoflo_> mneptok: why not? use samba?
[11:32] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP
[11:32] <Vich|Away> >.>
[11:32] <Flannel> Vich|Away: that's nice.  Take your book to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:32] <mneptok> fotoflo_: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:32] <wikiwurm> mneptok to you have an idea what i have to configure?
[11:33] <Vich|Away> I DID FLANNEL
[11:33] <willuminate> Can anyone help me with my wireless? I have everything set up & working, but everytime I restart, my comp won't connect because it tries to use eth0 to connect, whilst I need it to use ath0 by default. I had to ifdown my eth0 every single time and ifdown-ifup my ath0 again to connect.
[11:34] <Cold_FiRe> !wireless
[11:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:34] <fotoflo_> mneptok: why?
[11:34] <mneptok> fotoflo_: FTP is insecure
[11:34] <fotoflo_> if port21 isnt forwarded, there should be no problem though, right?
[11:35] <Flannel> fotoflo_: if you're using it internally, on your LAN, then yeah, assuming you trust your LAN, you're fine
[11:36] <AnAnt> does Ubuntu support WPA ?
[11:36] <mneptok> fotoflo_: why would you use an insecure, unencrypted protocol that is difficult to configure rather than a safe, encrypted protocol that is *dead easy*?
[11:36] <mneptok> AnAnt: of course.
[11:36] <Jowi> AnAnt, it is up to the driver of the wifi card
[11:36] <redwyrm> backwards compatibility?
[11:37] <mneptok> redwyrm: ?
[11:37] <redwyrm> erm, legacy support
[11:37] <AnAnt> Jowi: it is an Intel Pro 2200
[11:37] <fotoflo_> mneptok, well i just got proftpd setup with gproftpd
[11:37] <AnAnt> Jowi: so how should driver be configured then ?
[11:37] <Jowi> AnAnt, I have no idea which driver support it and which ones don't.
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: have fun. next time i'm on your network i'll be doing some packet sniffing, for sure. ;)
[11:38] <AnAnt> oh
[11:38] <fotoflo_> heh ok
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: using WEP for wireless?
[11:38] <fotoflo_> ofcourse
[11:38] <Jowi> AnAnt, maybe this can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: then your network is not at *all* secure.
[11:39] <AnAnt> Jowi: thanks
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> HOW THE HELL DO I USE WIRELESS TOOOOOOOOLLLLLSSSS
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html
[11:39] <Jowi> AnAnt, maybe this can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> arggggggg
[11:39] <fotoflo_> hmm
[11:39] <uiiu> mneptok: ssh is for shell or for ftp?
[11:39] <fotoflo_> i think, given my location, im pretty secure
[11:39] <mneptok> fotoflo_: WEP keys can be cracked with eay tools in less than 5 minutes. and then that cracker can start reading all your cleartext FTP passwords.
[11:40] <fotoflo_> right, but i live in china and no one around me speaks english
[11:40] <fotoflo_> anyway, how do i setup openssh, if its so easy
[11:40] <mneptok> uiiu: SSH can be used both as a secure shell and an underlying transport protocol for file services
[11:40] <uiiu> mnteptok: are you suggesting an alternative to ftp or to wep?
[11:40] <mneptok> fotoflo_: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:40] <uiiu> (or both)
[11:41] <Cold_FiRe> does anyone know if i need to install wireless tools from http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html on a 6.10 ubuntu OS
[11:41] <mneptok> fotoflo_: after that, any user with an account can login with an SFTP client with *zero extra configuration*
[11:41] <erUSUL> uiiu: it is "the" alternative to ftp and telnet for sure. wep operates at a different level of the tcp/ip stack
[11:42] <mneptok> uiiu: SFTP replaces FTP. WPA(2) replaces WEP.
[11:42] <uiiu> erusul & mneptok: thanks! <enlightenment>
[11:42] <christopherl> why can I not login as root in login window?
[11:42] <selecta_g> hello room; can someone offer help using the newsreader in Kontact? I copied the server settings from thunderbird, but have failed to download any newsgroups
[11:42] <uiiu> mneptok: what are the ssh clietns like? are they for all major platforms?
[11:42] <DarthLappy> !root | christopherl
[11:42] <ubotu> christopherl: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:42] <mneptok> christopherl: Ubuntu does not use a root lgin. use sudo.
[11:43] <AnAnt> is there something wrong with the indexer in the eclipse provided by Ubuntu repos ?
[11:43] <Cold_FiRe> ??
[11:43] <christopherl> ok thanks
[11:43] <wims> christopherl,  you can if you assign a password
[11:43] <fotoflo_> on port 22?
[11:43] <wims> like this : sudo passwd
[11:43] <oFFbeAt> christofkr, root login by default is disabled i think.. but u can enable it.. sudo is a more safe aproach
[11:43] <mneptok> uiiu: there are excellent GUI SFTP clients for Windows, OSX and Linux. free, too.
[11:43] <christopherl> ok
[11:43] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  on port 22?
[11:43] <Cold_FiRe> please i just want to connect my computer to the internet so i can stop booting out of windows and into linux then back to windows
[11:43] <mneptok> fotoflo_: yup
[11:43] <uiiu> opensource?
[11:44] <mneptok> fotoflo_: gftp is your GUI client on Linux. Filezilla on Windows. Cyberduck on OSX. all are free.
[11:44] <Cold_FiRe> ???????????????????????
[11:44] <erUSUL> Cold_FiRe: no you do not need to install those they come installed by sefault in any ubuntu install afaik
[11:44] <christopherl> my login window doesn't use the theme that I selected, why?
[11:45] <Cold_FiRe> thank yo
[11:45] <erUSUL> !info wireless-tools
[11:45] <ubotu> wireless-tools: Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions. In component main, is important. Version 28-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 104 kB, installed size 336 kB
[11:45] <uiiu> mneptok: nice :). i do a little networking for small biz on the side, i'll have to start looking into sftp...thank you.
[11:45] <fotoflo_> mneptok, cool, im using coreftp, on windows and gftp onlinux
[11:45] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  it work, sweet, thanks
[11:45] <mneptok> fotoflo_: whatever works :)
[11:45] <fotoflo_> ill uninstall proftpd
[11:45] <fotoflo_> thanks alot
[11:46] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP is *way* easier to set up, plus it' ~09843751986489 times more secure ;)
[11:46] <fotoflo_> heh
[11:46] <fotoflo_> yeah, thanks
[11:46] <Cold_FiRe> another question, it says wlan0 is the wireless mines eth1
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> Oh wow
[11:47] <mneptok> fotoflo_: so, you can claim to have increased security, when all you really did was say "fsck ftp. i'm lazy." win-win. ;)
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> ALRIGHT, here's a wager for you.
[11:47] <fotoflo_> yeah, i still need to setup samba though...
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> Convince me why I should switch to Linux
[11:47] <mneptok> !offtopic | AmbientMstr
[11:47] <ubotu> AmbientMstr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:48] <AmbientMstr> Hmm, wish they had told me that before.
[11:48] <AmbientMstr> Sorry
[11:48] <uiiu> is any one familiar with nmap?
[11:48] <fotoflo_> mneptok, is there an easy way to setup samba?
[11:48] <gourdin> is kde 3.5.6 available for edgy ?
[11:49] <Cold_FiRe> ok time to boot into linux again
[11:49] <Cold_FiRe> bye
[11:49] <KampfCaspar> hi all!
[11:49] <mneptok> fotoflo_: been editing smb.conf by hand for so long i don't know :/
[11:50] <fotoflo_> I had it working but for somereason it stopped and then it was impossible to get workign again. im going to reinstall and try again
[11:50] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: i've never seen a GUI tool for samba that works properly. i'm in the same boat as mneptok, just edit it by hand.
[11:50] <uiiu> i'm scanning my workstation with nmap. no - i'm not doing anything nefarious :) i wouldn't be asking this if i was. but it's taking a VERY long time to scan all the ports, more than a DAY, any one know why?
[11:50] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: besides, it has so many features that a GUI would probably never do it any justice.
[11:50] <fotoflo_> terminus: well on;ly if its a poor gui
[11:50] <fotoflo_> a good gui should give access to all the features
[11:51] <fb> hello, sorry I'm just doing a test
[11:51] <mneptok> fotoflo_: that GUI would then be 140MB and have 65,230 tabs :)
[11:51] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: maybe you can give SWAT a try. forgot how to access it though.
[11:51] <fotoflo_> theres samba and theres samba common...
[11:51] <fotoflo_> i tried it - it woudt work :(
[11:52] <mneptok> fotoflo_: samba-common is installed by default. "samba" is what you want
[11:53] <oFFbeAt> Terminus, i saw some easy way to setup samba via GUI in mandriva 2007.. wish i had same easy way in ubuntu too
[11:54] <fotoflo_> well now that i have sftp life is alot easier already
[11:54] <ecco> how do i mount a smb share in fstab with full read write privileges
[11:54] <chabito83> hello everyone... i'm new with ubuntu... i just wanna if there are different versions of ubuntu? What would be the best looking and most user friendly?
[11:55] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP loves you :)
[11:55] <fotoflo_> mneptok, can i mount an SFTP server as a drive in windows?
[11:55] <mneptok> chabito83: not me. i'm gorgeous, but a jerk. :/
[11:55] <mneptok> fotoflo_: if you have some app that allows that, i guess.
[11:56] <kleftisx> hello anyone knows how to do this trick with open windows on ubuntu? http://picasaweb.google.com/parker13/UbuntuSEScreenshots/photo#5018842934478756914
[11:56] <chabito83> hmmmm
[11:56] <chabito83> i guess it's true that you're a jerk
[11:56] <chabito83> :)
[11:57] <uiiu> chabito83: there's server and desktop. for desktop there's ubuntu (gnome), kubuntu (same but with KDE) and xubuntu (same but with XFCE)
[11:57] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: Webdrive (commercial) is the only app I know.
[11:57] <uiiu> more people prefer KDE over gnome according to some polls...
[11:58] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, have you used it?
[11:58] <uiiu> anyone have any idea why ubuntu chose gnome instead of KDE?
[11:58] <chabito83> ic... i guess i'll download kubuntu than ubuntu
[11:58] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: Yes. It works great.
[11:58] <uiiu> chabito83: it's personal choice. there's live CD's you can get to try them out...
[11:58] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, ill see if its on bittorrent :-)
[11:58] <looktj> Am i doing something wrong with grub?
[11:59] <chabito83> and what is enlightenment 17? I'm really sorry... i'm new with this one. Is it some kind of a theme for linux? Is it part of kubuntu or a seperate download?
[11:59] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: Does DAV, common FTP etc. as well.
[11:59] <looktj> grub> setup (hd0)
[11:59] <looktj> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[11:59] <wims> chabito83, get ubuntu (with gnome), its pretty sleek
[11:59] <looktj> that's after i do root (hd0)
[11:59] <fotoflo_> is it big?
[11:59] <KampfCaspar> big?
[11:59] <fotoflo_> can you stream video off it like you can a samba drive?
[11:59] <uiiu> enlightenment? isn't that the gui that comes with debian?
[11:59] <fotoflo_> <20MB?
[11:59] <uiiu> debain's live cd...
[11:59] <looktj> !grub wiki
[11:59] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[12:00] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: No, you cannot stream. It has to cache the file locally.
[12:00] <chabito83> wims > I already downloaded and tried ubuntu.... it looks like window.... not much flair :)
[12:00] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to make .rec files of the sort needed by pvrs for example?
[12:00] <looktj> that's wasn't helpful
[12:00] <fotoflo_> oh, thats a problem
[12:00] <wims> chabito83, kubuntu looks more like windows
[12:00] <looktj> i need to reinstall grub
[12:00] <fotoflo_> thansk though
[12:00] <wims> chabito83,  if you want it to look really good you should get AIGLX/Beryl
[12:00] <looktj> becuase of windows mbr overwrite
[12:00] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP is good for file transfers. it os not good as a network file system.
[12:00] <fotoflo_> i like samba cause I can watch videos or stream mp3s from my server
[12:00] <looktj> what is the ubuntu grub wiki link?
[12:00] <chabito83> ic... i want it to be goodlooking and userfriendly...  :)
[12:01] <looktj> :|
[12:01] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: There's a big difference between smb and sftp ;)
[12:01] <looktj> am i being ignored here?
[12:01] <mneptok> chabito83: Beryl and other compositors are NOT user friendly.
[12:01] <uiiu> chab: i like KDE personally - and 'userfriendly' is a term that doesn't always go along with ANY linux distribution
[12:01] <chabito83> i guess i'll stick with ubuntu right?
[12:01] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, k
[12:01] <fotoflo_> im gonna setup smb then
[12:01] <chabito83> thanks a lot for the info
[12:01] <Terminus-> !grub | looktj
[12:01] <ubotu> looktj: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:01] <wims> but it looks awesome
[12:02] <looktj> thanks terminus :)
[12:02] <Terminus-> looktj: you're welcome. =)
[12:02] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: If firewalls are a problem, set up a tunnel..
[12:02] <mneptok> wims: Paris Hilton looks awesome. she's still a skank with herpes. ;)
[12:02] <uiiu> chab: ubuntu's good. but messing around with KDE or enlightenment couldn't hurt either :) to me, nothing can be OSX, but KDE comes in a close second.
[12:02] <wims> lol
[12:03] <chabito83> i guess ill download KUBUNTU and try it out :) my downloading speed is sloooooooooow after the Taiwan Quake\
[12:03] <uiiu> someone should name a virus after paris hilton...soething that's just really annoying and stupid :)
[12:03] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, thanks... theyre not
[12:03] <wims> chabito83,  if you allready have ubuntu you dont need to download a new iso for kubuntu
[12:03] <Terminus-> chabito83: heh. we're in the same boat. i can't even load slashdot right now.
[12:03] <chabito83> i saw enlightment17 and it looks good. It looks like MAC OS :)
[12:04] <looktj> grub reinstalled...hopefully the windows example is in the grub menu.lst
[12:04] <uiiu> chab: wow - sorry to hear that.
[12:04] <looktj> brb reboot
[12:04] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, most of the network services i need, i only need on my internal network
[12:04] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: And in plain *nix environments, I prefer nfs
[12:04] <chabito83> wims.... what should i do? :-?
[12:04] <uiiu> chab: yeah, i'm checking out reviews right now, looks good. but it doesn't sound like all the kinks are worked out...
[12:04] <wims> !kubuntu
[12:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:04] <wims> hmmm
[12:04] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, i have to share with PC
[12:04] <wims> chabito83,  cant remember the command
[12:04] <chabito83> tnx tnx :)
[12:04] <wims> chabito83, i'll find out in two seconds
[12:05] <wims> chabito83,  type this in your console :
[12:05] <wims> http://youtube.com/watch?v=c1lFYT_cLm8
[12:05] <wims> oioops
[12:05] <wims> wrong link
[12:05] <mneptok> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <wims> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <willys_fueguino> good morning everyone....
[12:05] <chabito83> you tube :)
[12:05] <wims> there you go :)
[12:06] <chabito83> wait... im using XP OS right now...  i just tried the CD and booted from it
[12:06] <chabito83> where do i exactly typed it?
[12:07] <chabito83> I feel like a 50 yr old trying out his first computer
[12:07] <chabito83> :))
[12:07] <mneptok> chabito83: you type that once you install
[12:07] <wims> chabito83,  you have to install it to your harddisk before you can do it. You cannot do it from the live cd
[12:07] <mneptok> not from the CD
[12:07] <mneptok> chabito83: and FYI, i'm 41. :P
[12:07] <willys_fueguino> XDDDDD
[12:08] <chabito83> i
[12:08] <uiiu> mneptok: LOL. foot in mouth, huh ;)
[12:08] <chabito83> i'll be back... ill try to install and dual boot :)
[12:08] <mneptok> uiiu: especially when aosking the "old man" for help, eh? ;)
[12:08] <chabito83> i hope it won't hurt....
[12:08] <wims> chabito83,  make sure you understand the partitioning before you do it
[12:08] <wims> so you dont erase your entire hard disk
[12:09] <chabito83> terminus... oo
[12:09] <chabito83> uhmmmmm
[12:09] <uiiu> mneptok: hey - with age...comes wisdom ;)
[12:09] <Terminus-> chabito83: local guys are in #ubuntu-ph =)
[12:09] <chabito83> i'm beginning to feel like a computer illiterate
[12:09] <uiiu> chab: welcome to the world of linux
[12:09] <chabito83> terminus... tnx
[12:09] <Czarek> hi. how to delete the files from trash bin (they are named $%^% etc.). they were made by fsck
[12:09] <Terminus-> chabito83: we don't do support much though. mostly offtopic. haha
[12:09] <uiiu> ;)
[12:09] <mneptok> uiiu: and incontinence. life does not open a door without closing a window. ;)
[12:10] <sapage> !ssh
[12:10] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:10] <chabito83> uiiu.... and it's a little frustrating but I feel the need for Linux... Microsoft software is too costly....
[12:10] <uiiu> LOL
[12:10] <LookTj> is hda2 (hd0,1)?
[12:10] <mneptok> Czarek: rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[12:11] <uiiu> chab: i totally understand :)....i think it's great that your using unix.
[12:11] <uiiu> chab: i just meant that we all experience a feeling of "wtf?!" when using linux sometimes :)
[12:12] <wims> lol
[12:12] <wims> me too
[12:12] <willys_fueguino> I agree...
[12:12] <wims> but i have to use it all the time because of some apps
[12:12] <willys_fueguino> :-
[12:12] <chabito83> :) i'm now trying to google for dual boot... I'll be using linux for my next computer system
[12:12] <uiiu> mneptok: that's the ONLY thing i feel when using windows ;)
[12:12] <mneptok> (which i have avoided doing for almost 9 years)
[12:12] <uiiu> mneptok: <impressed>
[12:12] <chabito83> so right now... i need to familiarize myself with ubuntu :)
[12:13] <mena> Is there is any one have alot of experince in firestarter
[12:13] <uiiu> chab: there's another live cd version, "Knoppix" that's pretty good too. it's just another great way to try out linux
[12:13] <Czarek> mneptok: doesn`t work for me
[12:13] <LookTj> what  exactly is hda2 in (hd0) format?
[12:13] <uiiu> chab: you just need alot of RAM, around 512mb to try the live cd's.
[12:13] <mneptok> Czarek: pastebin the results of "ls -Rla ~/.Trash" please?
[12:13] <uiiu> (you can do it with less, but it's sloow)
[12:14] <willys_fueguino> LookTj: hd0,2 ??
[12:14] <mneptok> LookTj: depends. it's not a constant.
[12:14] <LookTj> hda1 is hda0,0
[12:14] <chabito83> question: for example... i downloaded ubuntu... and wanted to try other bistros? would it mess up my current OS? there seems to be a LOT of distros
[12:14] <LookTj> (hd0,0)
[12:14] <mneptok> LookTj: not always
[12:14] <LookTj> i meant on mine
[12:14] <LookTj> ;)
[12:14] <wims> chabito83,  not if you install it on a separate partition
[12:14] <chabito83> i have 1.5 gb for my RAM :) i guess it's not a problem
[12:15] <uiiu> chab: nope, definately not :)
[12:15] <LookTj> would it be (hd0,1)
[12:15] <chabito83> if only i can properly dual boot
[12:15] <uiiu> hey - does anyone know how to switch between desktops, but with a keyboard shortcut
[12:15] <mneptok> LookTj: well, as i said, it's not constant. so we can't tell you what yours is. ;)
[12:15] <uiiu> chab - what's the problem, when you load the cd, it should automatically do that...
[12:15] <mneptok> uiiu: workspaces?
[12:15] <uiiu> ...ithink
[12:15] <eternalswd> uiiu, gnome or kde or etc?
[12:16] <uiiu> mneptok: uh - yeah, the bottom right.
[12:16] <uiiu> eternalswd: gnome
[12:16] <chabito83> uiiu..... what percent would be ideal?
[12:16] <mneptok> uiiu: ctl-alt <arrow>
[12:16] <chabito83> i encountered it when i tried to install... but I'm afraid to mess up my system
[12:16] <LookTj> Would you know what it would be on internel drive of a laptop(DELL)
[12:16] <uiiu> mneptok: PERFECT. been trying to figure that out for some time, trial-and-error with some /interesting/ results.
[12:16] <mneptok> LookTj: what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <uiiu> chab: that depends. how big is your hard drive and how much space do youneed for xp?
[12:17] <LookTj> add Windows Pro to grub
[12:17] <wolfwalker> Quick question from a newb: If I installed yahoo IM in Wine, would it be able to connect to the internet through the wine app layer?
[12:17] <mneptok> LookTj: are you booted to Ubuntu now?
[12:17] <LookTj> Yes
[12:17] <eternalswd> uiiu, you can set custom keys in the Keyboard Shortcuts under System -> Preferences
[12:17] <jrib> wolfwalker: you can try
[12:17] <wims> wolfwalker,  probably
[12:17] <Enverex> wolfwalker, yes
[12:17] <LookTj> I'm gedit into menu.lst
[12:18] <chabito83> uiiu: 160 gb... i'll be using XP mainly as my OS. I just want to have the feel of UBUNTU so that I can use it after buying a new computer...
[12:18] <wims> wolfwalker,  but there are other native apps that can use the yahoo im protocol iirc
[12:18] <uiiu> eternalswd: oh neat...i see it here...thanks
[12:18] <Spacks> Hi all
[12:18] <Spacks> I'm a n00b too ubuntu and I'm trying to figure out how to install XP
[12:18] <wolfwalker> |wims:| yes, but can they send files between themselves and real Yahoo? That's the main problem I had with Trillian's interface
[12:18] <Spacks> I've got the OS Installation disc
[12:18] <uiiu> chab: 10gb should be more than enough...so around 8%-10% for ubuntu
[12:19] <Enverex> wolfwalker, yes
[12:19] <Enverex> wolfwalker, I'd check the AppDB thought to make sure Yahoo IM works first
[12:19] <chabito83> ic... tnx... BRB :) I'll try installing Ubuntu right now.
[12:19] <eternalswd> uiiu, there's also 11 or so that you set for custom applications.  you have to set them manually in gconf-editor or using the commandline equivalent
[12:19] <Spacks> goodluck man
[12:19] <Czarek> mneptok: http://pastebin.4programmers.net/1394
[12:19] <wolfwalker> |Spacks:| best thing to do is load the ubuntu cd, use GParted to partition your disk, then install Windows to one partition, defrag, then install Ubuntu.
[12:20] <LookTj> i'll just start with hd(0,1)
[12:20] <uiiu> chab: good luck!
[12:20] <Spacks> so format ubuntu?
[12:20] <Spacks> reinstall xp + ubuntu?
[12:20] <faycal> hi,how to use bittorent thru proxy to download
[12:20] <wolfwalker> Format using the partitioner in the Ubuntu cd
[12:20] <LookTj> Who?
[12:20] <Czarek> mneptok: i used "mc". thanks for your time
[12:20] <wolfwalker> |spacks:| what size is your hard drive?
[12:20] <LookTj> restarting brb
[12:20] <Spacks> 80GB
[12:21] <Spacks> I've already installed ubuntu
[12:21] <LookTj> 20GB, 40GB a good combo for 80GB hdd
[12:21] <wolfwalker> |spacks:| I'd say about 30 gig for Winblows, 30 for Ubuntu, and format 20 gig as FAT32 to swap files between the two OSs
[12:21] <uiiu> etnernalswd: thanks again. what's the command line equivelent - or do i edit a conf-editor file?
[12:21] <eternalswd> faycal, tracker proxy, or download proxy?
[12:21] <mneptok> LookTj: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub" for me?
[12:21] <eternalswd> faycal, ie socks or http proxy?
[12:22] <LookTj> I have already installed grub
[12:22] <LookTj> but brb if i fail
[12:22] <mneptok> LookTj: that's not what i asked you to do ;)
[12:22] <Spacks> wolfwalker: okay should I install XP first then ubuntu?
[12:22] <faycal> eternalswd: i have an http proxy to traverse
[12:22] <mneptok> Spacks: yes.
[12:22] <Spacks> is that an easier method?
[12:22] <LookTj> what exactly does command do mneptok
[12:22] <Spacks> okay
[12:22] <Spacks> ty
[12:22] <wims> Spacks, you have to
[12:22] <wolfwalker> Yes, usually install Windoze first
[12:23] <Spacks> kk
[12:23] <mneptok> LookTj: it reconfigures the GRUB package
[12:23] <eternalswd> uiiu, check out http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=62 for instructions
[12:23] <wims> windows wants to be on the first partition
[12:23] <eternalswd> faycal, do you just need to proxy the trackers or the full connection?
[12:23] <mneptok> wims: no, it wants to be on a master drive on a chain. partition does not matter. ;)
[12:24] <Spacks> and with repositories, how do I add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to the package list
[12:24] <uiiu> eternalswd: i'm there right now...thanks
[12:24] <wolfwalker> Put the Ubuntu cd in, start up Gparted. Use Gparted to wipe the whole hard drive. Then partition the hard drive into a NTFS partition for Winblows, a Linux partition, and a FAT32 partition for storing files that both OSs can access.
[12:24] <uiiu>  thanks alot, see everyone later!
[12:24] <wims> spacks: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <wims> add the line to the bottom of the file and save
[12:24] <Spacks> cheers
[12:24] <wims> then run sudo apt-get update
[12:25] <faycal> eternalswd: i don't understand your question, I just need to download the debian iso with bittorent, But I have to traverse the proxy server
[12:26] <mneptok> faycal: an HTTP prxy has absolutely no effect on BitTorrent.
[12:26] <mneptok> faycal: BitTorrent does not use HTTP as its transfer protocol.
[12:26] <wolfwalker> Use Bitcomet, that's what my bro uses and it works well.
[12:27] <mneptok> the client also does not matter (much)
[12:27] <mneptok> the exception is BitComet, which breaks compatibility right and left ;)
[12:27] <wims> :P
[12:27] <sapage> !streamgrabber
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streamgrabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <hastesaver> Hi, I'm trying to install a source package from packages.ubuntu.com, and along with a xxxxx.orig.tar.gz file, there is a xxxxx-1.diff.gz file. Am I supposed to patch something using the diff file? How? Thanks
[12:28] <wims> and there's a few fake bittorrent clients that looks like bitcomet, so it's banned on quite a few trackers
[12:28] <wolfwalker> Well it works for me and bro
[12:28] <mneptok> the trick to torrents is that you *must* forward ports for incoming connections. MUST.
[12:28] <Spacks> ah
[12:28] <roxlu> hi all, I want to create a tar without some files, i'm trying this:  tar -z -c -v --exclude=*.jpg -f test.tar.gz   ; but it still takes the .jpg files. Why?
[12:28] <faycal> mneptok: i can't ping dircectly to debian server or any other external machine from my PC, I have to traverse if you prefer a gateway, which needs login and password ( this is our proxy)
[12:29] <eternalswd> faycal, there's two parts to downloading torrents.  there's the tracker, usually stored via an http site which is needed to get the current uploader/downloader information.  the other part is the actual p2p communication.  you may just need to proxy the tracker.  in azureus you can proxy the tracker alone, the p2p alone, the tracker and p2p using the same proxy, or the tracker and p2p using different proxies
[12:29] <kleftisx> how i can a play mpg movies???
[12:29] <mneptok> a good UPnP router should adjust its tables automagically, but this is not reliable.
[12:29] <wims> also some ISPs block the standard bit torrent ports
[12:29] <Spacks> mneptok: how do I forward ports in linux
[12:29] <t_lauckner> Hello everyone
[12:29] <mneptok> faycal: ping does not use HTTP
[12:30] <t_lauckner> Perhaps you could give me some advice? I've just upgraded to edgy to help finding bugs and now neither grub nor lilo run as expected.
[12:30] <mneptok> Spacks: do you have a routor?
[12:30] <mneptok> *router
[12:30] <eternalswd> mneptok, unfortunately due to trackers being on http, http proxies are needed
[12:30] <eternalswd> *for bittorrent
[12:30] <Spacks> No
[12:30] <mneptok> eternalswd: yeah, but if ports aren't forwarded it won't help
[12:30] <kleftisx> how i can play mpg movies?
[12:30] <t_lauckner> sorry, and its feisty i speak of
[12:30] <faycal> eternalswd: thanks but i use btdownloadgui to download and there is no option to choose proxy, or have to use another program?
[12:31] <mneptok> Spacks: the computer is connected directly to the cable/DSL modem?
[12:31] <Spacks> yup
[12:31] <tuskernini> Hi all
[12:31] <eternalswd> faycal, you would need to use either azureus or utorrent through wine
[12:31] <wims> !restrictedformats> kleftisx
[12:31] <NET||abuse> Hi everyone, anyone got a fix on the laggy sound on flash video playback?
[12:31] <mneptok> faycal: lemme see if BitTornado does proxy for HTTP
[12:32] <wims> NET||abuse,  do you use the new official flash ?
[12:32] <wims> or rather the final, not beta
[12:32] <rafiozi> ..
[12:32] <NET||abuse> wims, oh?? just used the firefox plugin from debs
[12:32] <rafiozi> hello
[12:32] <NET||abuse> there's new official flash ?? :) coooooool
[12:33] <wims> :)
[12:33] <wims> just a few days old
[12:33] <NET||abuse> when did that come out?
[12:33] <NET||abuse> ahh :) when is it due in debs...
[12:33] <wims> no idea
[12:33] <wolfwalker> hmmmm
[12:33] <wims> NET||abuse,  http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2007/01/flash_player_9_for_linux_x86.html
[12:33] <wolfwalker> !bit torrent
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bit torrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <wolfwalker> :/
[12:34] <ExxKA> wolfwalker, what are you searching for?
[12:34] <mneptok> faycal: ping
[12:34] <eternalswd> NET||abuse, I believe flash9 is in edgy-backports
[12:35] <faycal> eternalswd: That is the question!!
[12:35] <wolfwalker> |ExxKA:| Just hoping I'd get lucky. Thought maybe the bot knew a good bit torrent client. I'll need one for Ubuntu.
[12:35] <eternalswd> !flash9
[12:35] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[12:35] <NET||abuse> eternalswd, well is that official,, what version is the new oficial flash equivelant to?
[12:36] <mneptok> faycal: looks like BitTornado (which is, IMO, *far* superior to the mainline BT client) does proxying.
[12:36] <ExxKA> wolfwalker azures, or what ever it's called, the java client, works with ubuntu
[12:36] <wims> wolfwalker, uTorrent through wine is the best option for me
[12:36] <mneptok> faycal: sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui
[12:36] <wims> but i understand if you dont want to use wine though
[12:36] <eternalswd> !flash9 | NET||abuse
[12:36] <ubotu> NET||abuse: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[12:36] <wolfwalker> Wine's cool, I love it
[12:36] <mneptok> faycal: http://guides.radified.com/magoo/guides/bittorrent/bittorrent_05.html
[12:37] <faycal> eternalswd: in fact I am using bitornado-gui, and nothing about proxy in the man
[12:37] <mneptok> wolfwalker: you tto, for BitTornado :)
[12:37] <mneptok> *too
[12:37] <Spacks> laters all
[12:39] <eternalswd> I love azureus, except it hasn't been kind to me behind a proxy.  I find uTorrent the beta that is needed for the webui to be the best at connecting to other clients.  to bad it's been abandoned
[12:41] <faycal> eternalswd: thank you I'll try this link
[12:42] <t_lauckner> sorry, lagged out.
[12:42] <sapage> exit
[12:43] <kleftisx> when im trying to open terminal i get the following error: Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or director
[12:43] <kleftisx> not only the terminal but anything i get to open i get Failed to execute
[12:44] <kleftisx> what to do? :(
[12:45] <kleftisx> when im trying to open terminal  and some other applications, Home Folder, System e.t.c i get the following error: Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or director
[12:47] <Svish> !winkey
[12:47] <ubotu> To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[12:49] <lukic> can someone help me install Nvidia drivers manually? I got error:
[12:49] <lukic> Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[12:49] <lukic>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[12:49] <lukic>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[12:50] <lukic> can someone help me install Nvidia drivers manually?
[12:51] <erUSUL> lukic: install build-essential
[12:51] <erUSUL> !b-e > lukic
[12:57] <valehru> Hey guys, I have a fresh install of edgy and I'm getting the following error: Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Boot with apic=debug and send a report.  Then try booting with the noapic option.
[12:58] <valehru> Any clue whats going on?
[01:02] <kleftisx> can anyone paste me the problem i have write in the channel 3 minutes ago...because i cant login anymore to ubuntu...to paste that problem on ubuntu forums to get an answer?
[01:05] <kleftisx> can anyone paste me the problem i have write in the channel 3 minutes ago...because i cant login anymore to ubuntu...to paste that problem on ubuntu forums to get an answer?
[01:06] <Pobega> kleftisx: What exactly is your problem with logging in?
[01:07] <linuxero> enverex!
 can anyone paste me the problem i have write in the channel 3 minutes ago...because i cant login anymore to ubuntu...to paste that problem on ubuntu forums to get an answer?
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[01:07] <Enverex> linuxero, Yes?
[01:07] <kleftisx> i try to install Automatix but then when i was trying to open terminal,Home,System does not open
[01:07] <kleftisx> i have log out and try to login
[01:07] <kleftisx> but it doesnt load anything
[01:07] <linuxero> how are you?
[01:08] <Pobega> Hmm...Well you can login, but you just get no Gnome panels?
[01:08] <tommyv> http://www.last.fm/user/tommyvyo/ OMG ADD ME
[01:08] <kleftisx> Pogeba: yes :(
[01:09] <Enverex> tommyv, Are you done spamming the channel now?
[01:09] <kleftisx> Pobega : yes :(
[01:09] <tommyv> whoops, i did that as an amsg on a different server... didnt realize xchat would send it over here, sorry enverex and darthlappy
[01:09] <Pobega> I'm looking into it, one minute kleftisx.
[01:10] <Pobega> Okay, I found something. Try this:
[01:11] <Pobega> Go into the ~/.gnome2 folder, go into panel2.d and delete the "default folder".
[01:11] <kleftisx> ok i will try
[01:11] <linuxero> hello enverex!
[01:11] <Pobega> Try it by logging in from a terminal or something.
[01:12] <Pobega> Ctrl+Alt+F1 for a TTY1 session, which is just a terminal.
[01:12] <kleftisx> but how i can logging from a terminal? i am newbbie :D
[01:12] <kleftisx> ok
[01:12] <kleftisx> il be back in a while
[01:12] <Pobega> Okay, I'll still be here hopefully.
[01:12] <Pobega> I might have to go to school.
[01:15] <NineTeen67Comet> grrr . how do I make mplayerplug-in the default for firefox instead of totem? ..
[01:15] <Pobega> Uninstall the totem firefox plugin through aptitude and it should default back to mplayer
[01:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Pobega: thank you .. I'll giver 'er a try ..
[01:16] <linuxero> i want patches!
[01:16] <Pobega> NineTeen67Comet: Try this; sudo aptitude remove totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[01:17] <Pobega> It will remove whichever one you have installed (You can't have both)
[01:17] <NineTeen67Comet> Pobega: thanks .. I use Aptitude a lot more than apt-get (let alone Synaptic) ..
[01:18] <Pobega> Aptitude is the most powerful in my opinion, when using apt-cache search I get way too many results for it to be useful; aptitude search works better in my opinion.
[01:18] <NineTeen67Comet> Looks like it may have worked .. thank you again ..
[01:19] <Pobega> No problem. Does mplayer actually stream videos for you by the way?
[01:19] <NineTeen67Comet> Pobega: I find that Aptitude handles all the dependancies better also .. it not only seems to get them all on install, but drags them away on remove also ..
[01:19] <OrTigaS> i cant install mplayer
[01:19] <OrTigaS> i'm using dapper
[01:20] <Pobega> NineTeen67Comet: Well they both handle it pretty much the same, but with apt-get you have to do autoremove to get rid of the dependancies.
[01:20] <OrTigaS> !pastebin
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <NineTeen67Comet> Pobega: roger that .. i've got to get a move-on .. tanks again ..
[01:20] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Have you tried sudo aptitude install mplayer? Not to sound stupid, but sometimes people miss the basics.
[01:20] <Pobega> NineTeen67Comet: Goodbye :)
[01:20] <NineTeen67Comet> tanks=thanks ..
[01:22] <OrTigaS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2526/
[01:22] <OrTigaS> i will try tahat
[01:22] <OrTigaS> that*
[01:22] <deuce868> looking for some xorg help. Pastebin of xorg.conf sections here: http://pastebin.ca/324494
[01:22] <Pobega> sudo apt-get remove mplayer  \   sudo aptitude install mplayer
[01:22] <babis85> hello, i've just bought an external hard disk drive but i am encountering problems with permissions when i am mounting it. Only root can write. How can i tell the system to automatically mount it with rw permission for all users?
[01:22] <deuce868> I can't get the external display on a X40 laptop to hit 1680x1050
[01:22] <Pobega> babis85: What filesystem is the drive?
[01:23] <OrTigaS> still the same
[01:23] <babis85> Pobega: ext3
[01:23] <deuce868> I did get it to run at 1600x1200 by commenting out the sync settings and only leaving the 1680 mode.
[01:23] <deuce868> so it has the power to run that res, bit it just refuses to hist 1680
[01:23] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Oh, so aptitude is giving you errors too. That's pretty weird, I'd post it on the forums sorry =/
[01:23] <Pobega> babis85: Then just change the ownership using chown
[01:23] <OrTigaS> aptitude working fine....
[01:24] <Pobega> Aptitude installs it fine, or is working fine?
[01:24] <OrTigaS> just only the mplayer & mozilla-mplayer
[01:24] <babis85> Pobega: i want to write automatically, not by telling it explicitly, isn't there a way?
[01:24] <Pobega> deuce868: I forgot the command, but you have to do something to tell your xorg.conf to check the changes.
[01:24] <OrTigaS> did you see the paste?
[01:25] <OrTigaS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2526/
[01:25] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Yeah, you were using apt-get. Which I originally thought might have been the problem, but I guess not.
[01:25] <fong> ortigas taga ortigas ka?
[01:25] <Pobega> babis85: What do you mean you want to write automatically? If only root can write that means you have to change the file's protection, chmod and/or chown should do the trick.
[01:25] <deuce868> Pobega: I'm restarting X, that should have it check for changes
[01:25] <OrTigaS> maybe its because i tried the other night to follow the instruction in ubuntuguide
[01:26] <OrTigaS> hindi :P
[01:26] <fong> hehe
[01:26] <Pobega> deuce868: In all honesty I've never gotten xorg.conf to work right for me, I don't know why everyone says to change it there.
[01:26] <fong> how can i extract/install rpms? i want to install azureus on my ubuntu
[01:26] <babis85> Pobega: i mean that i would like to have the disk mounted automatically with rw permissions for me, isn't there a way to accomplish that?
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> fong: use alien
[01:26] <OrTigaS> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336706&highlight=mplayer <--- i tried to follow this
[01:26] <deuce868> well the gui for screen res doesn't show 1680 as a res to choose from
[01:27] <Pobega> babis85: I'm not sure; It's all in the permissions, you'd have to change them to make it rw
[01:27] <fong> @crookedgryphon: ok thanks, trying it now
[01:27] <Pobega> Who's current owner of the files?
[01:28] <OrTigaS> its getting late here.... just gonna finish my drinks and sleep :).... but need a little help while i'm still awake :)
[01:29] <romedog> which is better to run apache 1.3 or apache2
[01:29] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Can you paste your sources.list?
[01:29] <OrTigaS> yes i can
[01:29] <taraksias> Pobega : im back...with no results :(
[01:29] <OrTigaS> i think that guide is for edgy only
[01:29] <heatxsink> so I clearly installed nvidia-glx and followed the howto on the ubuntu website, when I reboot my machine, it somehow looses all of the nvidia.ko files in /lib/modules/<generic kernel version>/volatile/, which then leads to gdm not coming up.
[01:29] <Pobega> taraksias: Aw, well...Is Gnome actually loading, or is it not working right
[01:30] <Pobega> err
[01:30] <Pobega> is it just the panels that aren't working*
[01:30] <CookedGryphon> romedog: i would have thought apache2, i've never had any problems with its stability or anything, which presumably is your concern?
[01:30] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Well, still post your sources.list I'd like to have a look at them if you don't mind.
[01:30] <OrTigaS> okay wait...
[01:30] <taraksias> Pobega : what else can i do to fix that?
[01:30] <OrTigaS> here?
[01:30] <OrTigaS> pastebin
[01:30] <Pobega> pastebin of course :)
[01:30] <Pobega> taraksias: I'm thinking.
[01:31] <Pobega> taraksias: Can you log in with another WM?
[01:31] <taraksias> Pobega : WM?
[01:31] <Pobega> Window Manager. Like Fluxbox, FVWM, etc.
[01:31] <heatxsink> anyone?
[01:32] <Oni-Dracula> yay flash player 9 for linux is out!
[01:32] <taraksias> yes
[01:32] <OrTigaS> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check <---- :(
[01:32] <romedog> CookedGryphon I have been trying to install apache with gallery2 and I am having a problem with the php module not getting installed with mysql
[01:32] <OrTigaS> where can i enable javascript?
[01:32] <taraksias> Porbega : i have Paragon Partition Explorer
[01:33] <matsyes> Hi i have ubuntu 6.06 on my comp and i want to upgrade it to 6.10 my cdrom drives not working and i dont have a net connection on my ubuntu comp.I however do have a usb drive and enough storage how do i go about upgrading to 6.10?
[01:33] <Pobega> OrTigaS: http://www.rafb.net/paste/ <- Far superior to pastebin
[01:33] <Pobega> taraksias: What do you mean?
[01:34] <taraksias> Pobega : i dont have a window manager
[01:34] <Pobega> taraksias: Gnome is a Window Manager :P
[01:34] <taraksias> Pobega : :P i have only Gnome
[01:34] <OrTigaS> http://rafb.net/p/pFVzOa61.html  <--- here
[01:34] <christopherl> I want to create a launcher in Gnome panel for workspace switcher. I need to add a name and command, what's the command for workspace switcher?
[01:35] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Remove the lastt wo lines and try it again, could be your problem (Shouldn't be using edgy repos on Dapper)
[01:35] <tkp> hi
[01:35] <XplOzIon> who knows ircu?
[01:35] <Pobega> taraksias: You could always install another one for the time being, I won't be able to help you though; This problem is far beyond me.
[01:35] <tkp> I'm having trouble upgrading my libevas
[01:35] <tkp> (dapper)
[01:36] <taraksias> Pobega : how can i install another one?
[01:36] <tkp> would someone mind taking a quick look at the output: http://rafb.net/p/j1OEdk58.html
[01:36] <Pobega> taraksias: Might I suggest downloading xfce4 through aptitude, it will use all of your Gnome programs well and will be good until you fix Gnomwe
[01:36] <OrTigaS> okay
[01:36] <tkp> I followed the thread here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319336
[01:36] <Pobega> Log into a terminal session, and type "sudo aptitude install xfce4"
[01:36] <taraksias> Pobega : just that?
[01:37] <mwe> or xubuntu-desktop to get the whole package
[01:37] <Pobega> taraksias: Yeah, just download xfce4; Not xubuntu-desktop, since you're going back to Gnome when you're done.
[01:37] <babis85> Pobega: i found another way...I put a line in fstab for that device with options (users,rw,noauto). I mount with "mount /mnt./ext-disk", then changed the ownership of the mount point to me, i unmounted and now every time that i mount it with that command i am able to write
[01:38] <taraksias> Pobega : i also have a Partition Explorer that i can read and write to ubuntu partition what is the directory of gnome2 and where is located the default folder to try delete it?
[01:38] <CookedGryphon> romedog: in which case i'm not sure what to advise having never played with gallery, have you asked in #gallery-support ?
[01:38] <Pobega> Oh, that's good to know babis85! Changing the mount point's permissions also changes the permissions of the files, very interesting.
[01:38] <Pobega> taraksias: ~/.gnome2
[01:38] <Pobega> taraksias: But I suggest not deleting it
[01:39] <tkp> any ideas how I can get it to work anyone?
[01:39] <mwe> just rename it
[01:39] <babis85> Pobega: no that is not true
[01:39] <tkp> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libevas1_0.9.9.037+cvs20070110-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:39] <tkp>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libevas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libevas0
[01:39] <tkp> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[01:39] <mwe> mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2_backup
[01:39] <NET||abuse> i got flashplugin-nonfree from debs, is that the new official flash9?
[01:39] <tkp> what does that mean?
[01:39] <OrTigaS> still cant install MPlayer :(
[01:39] <Pobega> babis85: Oh? I thought that's what you said you did.
[01:39] <mwe> NET||abuse: I think not
[01:39] <my_haz> anyone know how to copy the data that is going to /dev/audio (or should go) while something is playing?
[01:39] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Like I said, post it on the forums. People smarter than me will see it there
[01:39] <NET||abuse> it wasn't on backports, it was on restricted
[01:39] <mwe> !flash | NET||abuse
[01:39] <ubotu> NET||abuse: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <taraksias> Pobega : if i rename it will be a problem?
[01:40] <Pobega> taraksias: Yeah, since I'm not sure how much important stuff is there. You can always try it, of course.
[01:40] <OrTigaS> i tried here because it fast to answer :)
[01:40] <taraksias> Pobega : ok thx
[01:40] <Pobega> taraksias: Most likely won't do any permanent damage.
[01:40] <babis85> Pobega: simply now i can write to the hard disk, meaning that i can create NEW files and remove them or edit, delete old files with permissions that allow me to do so
[01:40] <OrTigaS> okay maybe i'm gonna searxh and ask at the forum though :)
[01:40] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Well, if no one here knows you're gonna _have to_ post on the forums :P
[01:40] <OrTigaS> Thanks a lot Pobega
[01:40] <Pobega> babis85: Yes, I know, but how did you get them to be rw without changing permissions?
[01:41] <Pobega> OrTigaS: No problem, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[01:41] <OrTigaS> gonna sleep now :)
[01:41] <Pobega> OrTigaS: Have a good rest :D
[01:41] <tkp> anyone...?
[01:41] <tkp> has anyone managed to install libevas1 on dapper?
[01:41] <tkp> I can't do it... I just get "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libevas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libevas"
[01:42] <tkp> sorry... "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libevas.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libevas0"
[01:42] <tkp> well, I do already have libevas0 installed
[01:42] <user-land> Hello, what is the easiest way to graphically display recursive folder content sizes in Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:42] <tkp> but I can't seem to remove it either
[01:43] <babis85> Pobega: notice what am i saying, i have rw perms only to the mount point. That only means i can CREATE NEW files and delete them, but not that i can delete older files which haven't got w permissions
[01:43] <tkp> trying to remove it just results in a load of "The following packages have unmet dependencies...."
[01:43] <Pobega> babis85: Oh oh oh, so you're still having your problem then?
[01:43] <tkp> most of which complain "Depends: libevas1 (>= 0.9.9.037) but it is not going to be installed"
[01:44] <Pobega> babis85: Well, just as I thought, you'll *probably* have to change the permissions. If there is some other way to do it it's above me.
[01:44] <Ash-Fox> Can someone explain to me, why -- When I install any webserver or such, can't I connect to it via 127.0.0.1? I can access the webserver from other computers, but not locally.
[01:44] <babis85> Pobega: No, i wanted to be able to create new files
[01:44] <tkp> please??
[01:44] <Pobega> Ash-Fox: Have you tried http://localhost/ ?
[01:45] <Pobega> babis85: Oh, okay. Sorry about my stupidity, it's early in the morning here.
[01:45] <CookedGryphon> user-land: how about using gdmap?
[01:45] <babis85> Pobega: but, yes, it did need to change only once the permissions of the mount point
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> Pobega, yes, discovered that 'lo' was down.
[01:46] <piao> i use zhcon under thinkpad r50e,there is a error,after excute `zhcon` i cant see any thing
[01:46] <babis85> Pobega: ideally i would like to plug my device and not have to give the command "mount /mnt/..", instead have the system automounting it with the appropriate perms
[01:47] <piao> is there any solution?
[01:47] <trigg3r> hi everyone
[01:47] <Pobega> babis85: Ah, the only program I can think of that automounts is gnome-volume-manager; And I'm not even sure if it works for external HDDs
[01:48] <matsyes> Hi i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on my comp and i want to upgrade to 6.10 however i do not have a working cdrom drive and no
[01:48] <matsyes> net connection on my ubuntu comp It however does have a usb port.I however have access to a net connection on a
[01:48] <matsyes> windows based comp and a usb drive with plenty of space for data transfer.Can you please advise me on how to upgrade?
[01:48] <incorrect> hello,  i am trying to install dapper onto a power edge 2950
[01:49] <haary>  Does anyone know a free groupware server with good evolution support and features like group calendar and shared documents/folders?
[01:49] <incorrect> it appears i need a more upto date kernel
[01:49] <incorrect> is there an install cd for dapper with a newer kernel?
[01:50] <trigg3r> can anyone please help me with a cgiproxy and squid problem? i got them on servers with multiple domains and IPs, and I don't want these proxies to show the main server IP, or reverse lookup to the main IP's default. i need the proxies to show the IP of the vhosts where they are installed. please help... thank you.
[01:50] <fong> hi all
[01:51] <fong> im getting an error running alien, 'unknown package type'
[01:52] <kleftisx> Pobega : back...i have try the solution with xfce4 but when i try to login it doesnt show me the xfce4 on the menu
[01:52] <Pobega> kleftisx: It should be on the sessions menu, are you sure it isn't there?
[01:53] <fong> anyone know why?
[01:53] <CookedGryphon> matsyes: can you not get your net connection on the ubuntu comp, or pinch the cd drive from another computer? cos what you're suggesting will be far more trouble than its worth
[01:53] <kleftisx> Pobega : yes im sure
[01:53] <trigg3r> anyone with cgiproxy configuration experience?
[01:53] <Pobega> kleftisx: Okay, let's take the total other route; Try doing sudo aptitude install fluxbox, and see if that shows up on the sessions menu.
[01:53] <IdleOne> kleftisx: what is on the session menu?
[01:54] <incorrect> how often is ubuntu updated?
[01:54] <IdleOne> incorrect: daily
[01:54] <kleftisx> on the session menu are just Gnome, Default session and Gnome with failsafe
[01:54] <fong> cookedgryphon: i'm getting this error when running alien on the jre rpm: Unknown type of package
[01:54] <incorrect> i should say, how often are major releases done, roughly?
[01:55] <fong> cookedgryphon: anyideas?
[01:55] <erUSUL> incorrect: 6 months
[01:55] <IdleOne> kleftisx: try installing fluxbox like Pobega said and see if that works
[01:55] <CookedGryphon> fong: the jre is in the official ubuntu repos, you don't need to alien that
[01:55] <incorrect> what about LTS releases?
[01:55] <kleftisx> ok
[01:56] <_raphael_> does anybody here know if tundra makes ubuntu-friendly laptops?
[01:56] <CookedGryphon> fong: apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:56] <lskd-255> is there a way to clean up the slack space on a harddrive?  like shred can set the area the file that is shredded to 0
[01:57] <lskd-255> I want to fully remove files that were basicly deleted and not shredded
[01:58] <kleftisx> Pobega : i have install fluxbox and i choose to login with fluxbox ...but doesnot load anything again :(
[01:59] <IdleOne> kleftisx: have you tried rebooting machine and then choosing a window manager at login?
[01:59] <kleftisx> IdleOne : yes
[01:59] <Pobega> IdleOne: I think that's what he's doing
[01:59] <IdleOne> weird
[01:59] <Pobega> kleftisx: Man, this problem sounds like it's far beyond Gnome not loading.
[02:00] <burepe> !rae
[02:00] <kleftisx> Pobega : ok fluxbox load after 2 minutes
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rae - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <burepe> !rar
[02:00] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:00] <Pobega> kleftisx: Impatience? ;P
[02:00] <Pobega> kleftisx: How slow of a computer are you on?
[02:00] <matsyes> CookedGryphon:i cant do either ... in a fix that way ...so is their a way to do this
[02:00] <Pobega> unrar-free > unrar and rar, nonfree programs suck.
[02:00] <kleftisx> Pobega : i am not on a slow computer i have an Amd64* 4000+
[02:01] <Pobega> kleftisx: Wow, that's weird. Well if Fluxbox took 2 minutes to load have you tried letting Gnome load for a while?
[02:01] <kleftisx> Pobega : yes but nothing happend
[02:01] <alyssa_> Hello all!
[02:01] <alyssa_> !hardware alps
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardware alps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Pobega> kleftisx: Okay, the only thing I can say is post on the forums and hope someone with strong Ubuntu knowledge shows up.
[02:02] <alyssa_> !hardware alps-touchpad
[02:02] <alyssa_> !hardware
[02:02] <kleftisx> Pobega : i have do it...thanks for ur help
[02:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:02] <Pobega> kleftisx: I'm sorry I couldn't help more, some problems are just beyond me D:
[02:02] <alyssa_> Hey Pobega!
[02:03] <CookedGryphon> matsyes: wait, i know, if you just copy the edgy iso onto your usb drive, then mount it as a loopback device n add it in synaptic, upgrade et voila, only potential problem being that that would need a pretty conventional install because it wouldn't be able to connect to the net to upgrade things not on the cd
[02:03] <Pobega> alyssa_: Hi :)
[02:03] <user-land> thanks, CookedGryphon, gdmap works. do you know the tool 'baobab' ?
[02:03] <alyssa_> Pobega, are you free and in a mood to help?
[02:04] <kleftisx> Pobega : is there something else more User Friendly WM except fluxbox? :P
[02:04] <Pobega> alyssa_: Yep, I have the day off for regents week so I'll be on here when I'm not doing Python.
[02:04] <Pobega> kleftisx: Xfce is my favorite, Fluxbox is fairly easy though; Once you adapt
[02:04] <trigg3r> can anyone please help me with cgiproxy issues?
[02:04] <alyssa_> Pobega, thats very nice of you to offer help. Thanks I appreciate it.
[02:04] <Daverocks> fluxbox is nice ^_^
[02:04] <CookedGryphon> user-land: nope, but google did so i do now
[02:05] <ben_m> Openbox is even better :D
[02:05] <Pobega> alyssa_: So what do you need help with?
[02:05] <Pobega> Xfce > All
[02:05] <ben_m> nah
[02:05] <user-land> matsyes, upgrading leads to massive problems in many cases.
[02:05] <incorrect> is it possible to upgrade from an i386 to a 64biy version?
[02:06] <user-land> matsyes, install a cdrom drive and do a fresh install if you really want to run 6.10 on that computer.
[02:06] <alyssa_> Pobega, I have an alps-touchpad that works. But then there is a scroll button between the left and right click, which hasnt worked since Dapper days. Any ideas whats going on? Besides this I am unable to turn SHMConfig on.
[02:06] <erUSUL> incorrect: no
[02:06] <Pobega> Xfce is nice and lite, just like Fluxbox. But it gives me all the GTK stuff I need :)
[02:06] <incorrect> shame
[02:06] <Pobega> alyssa_: Hm, let me go research on this a bit.
[02:06] <syock> incorrect: unless you`re l33t and able to replace every single 32-bit system files with the 64-bit ones
[02:07] <Pobega> alyssa_: Is it not working at all, or just not in any particular program?
[02:07] <incorrect> syock, ok i wondered if the 32bit kernel would go splat during the upgrade
[02:07] <CookedGryphon> user-land, actually i'd seen baobab before, its built into gnome now, i just never realised it had a graphical display option and i thought it was a bit rubbish just showing a list
[02:07] <alyssa_> Pobega, okie. thanks. I have looked around on ubuntuforums, in vain. I have tried most of the advise on SHMConfig o/1/true in vain. And my xorg.log reports it cant find a synaptics touchpad.
[02:08] <Pobega> alyssa_: Okay, so I'm assuming the scrolling isn't working at all.
[02:08] <alyssa_> Pobega: the scroll button (like a rocker button) doesnt scroll. The down click does a left click for some reason.
[02:08] <user-land> CookedGryphon, the reason i asked is it is not listed in synaptic, yet it runs ...
[02:08] <alyssa_> Pobega: Doesnt scroll = doesnt scroll at all, in any program.
[02:08] <CookedGryphon> user-land: its included in gnome-utils
[02:09] <Pobega> alyssa_: Hmm...And you've tried Synaptics, correct?
[02:09] <syock> incorrect: hmm, i dunno. Best bet would be fresh install unless you`re willing to make that kind of discovery which would consume more time...
[02:09] <CookedGryphon> user-land: it seems painfully slow in comparison to gdmap tho
[02:09] <alyssa_> Pobega: yes, I have tried synaptics, but like I said, xorg.conf reports error, says it cant find a synaptics touchpad.
[02:09] <user-land> yes, cookedgryphon.
[02:09] <syock> incorrect: and if you ever succeed, you`ll be honoured by others who`re trying to do the same
[02:09] <user-land> nice on the cpu though.
[02:10] <Pobega> alyssa_: How about gsynaptics?
[02:10] <aimtrainer> hi! whats the command for the shell in ubuntu? Im coming from kubuntu where its simply "console"...
[02:10] <CookedGryphon> aimtrainer: gnome-terminal
[02:10] <aimtrainer> CookedGryphon, thx
[02:10] <CookedGryphon> np
[02:11] <alyssa_> Pobega: qsynaptics looks for SHMConfig, and reports that it is not true. Says it cant access Shared memory. I have however turned SHMConfig to on. Tried with on, true, 1, in vain.
[02:11] <Jowi> aimtrainer, xterm will always work. gnome-terminal if you have gnome installed
[02:11] <CookedGryphon> xterm's uuuuuugly
[02:11] <alyssa_> Pobega: Same deal with gsynaptics and synclient -m l
[02:11] <aimtrainer> Jowi, yea thanks I have gnome installed, but I dont relly like xterm
[02:11] <Jowi> CookedGryphon, xterm is my favourite acutally... :)
[02:11] <Pobega> Wow, there are a lot of threads about this touchpad.
[02:13] <CookedGryphon> Jowi: i need my antialiased fonts and properly transparent background tho
[02:13] <ExxKA> Are memos on IRC actually used?
[02:13] <Jowi> ExxKA, now and then. useful when you need to send a message to someone that is not currently online.
[02:14] <ExxKA> Jowi, yeah i know and i have used it a few times myself, but never recieved one..
[02:14] <Pobega> alyssa_: Ah, I found something interesting. Try resetting your virtual touchpad size through these means: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294546&highlight=alps+scroll
[02:15] <ExxKA> I suppose im not putting enough of my chatting efforts on IRC..
[02:15] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to make .rec files of the sort needed by pvrs for example?
[02:15] <alyssa_> Pobega: whats virtual touchpad size?
[02:15] <fong> what directory should i install my downloaded programs?
[02:15] <kiamo> please can anyone help me set up chroot with deboot strap
[02:15] <fong> something like a program files directory?
[02:15] <Pobega> alyssa_: Well, for example, (let's say) your touchpad is 3x2.
[02:15] <Pobega> alyssa_: Virtually it could be 4x2, which means the computer thinks it's 4" wide
[02:16] <alyssa_> Pobega: whats 3x2?
[02:16] <Pobega> 3x2 inches
[02:16] <alyssa_> Pobega: ok, inches.
[02:16] <Pobega> So, that means that from left to right on the touchpad it would scroll
[02:16] <CookedGryphon> fong: i use ~/bin rather than touching anything outside my home directory
[02:16] <Pobega> But you'd never reach the scrolling bit (For up/down scrolling)
[02:16] <Pobega> Because the computer thinkgs it's an inch longer
[02:16] <kiamo> depending on which i use(breezy, edgy, hoary, etc) it either just stopped building the enviroment or fails
[02:17] <Pobega> That *might* be it, I would give it a shot if I were you.
[02:17] <alyssa_> Pobega: but there has never ever been a touchpad based finger-dragging scrolling on my notebook. It has always been the physical button with up and down rocking action on my notebook for up/down scrolling. My notebook is a Fujitsu C2220.
[02:17] <incorrect> strange, i just tried to install the 64bit on a 64bit xeon, and it has picked an amd kernel
[02:17] <incorrect> is that normal?
[02:18] <Pobega> alyssa_: Oh, I thought you were talking about a touchpad scroller.
[02:18] <fong> so its usr/<user_name>/bin?
[02:18] <Svish> !bin
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <fong> that's where i install my java directory?
[02:18] <fong> the apt-get doesnt work btw...
[02:18] <fredl> Hmm, I just bought an Asus 7600GS board and installed it, followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com but I have only 1024x768 it seems
[02:18] <jklint> Anyone come across an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 going into dependecy issues after the first update? I am getting an error with openoffice: openoffice.org-core conflicts with openoffice.org-writer (<< 2.0.4-0ubuntu4)  openoffice.org-writer (version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2) is installed.
[02:18] <IdleOne> !resolution
[02:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:18] <CookedGryphon> fong: do you have all the extra ubuntu repos enabled?
[02:18] <alyssa_> Pobega: Sorry if I mis-led you. I was talking about a physical button between the left click button and the right click button. This button clicks up and down, for up/down scrolling.
[02:19] <fredl> yeah I rebooted IdleOne.
[02:19] <Pobega> alyssa_: Okay, I'm looking at a picture of the laptop and I see what you're talking about now :)
[02:19] <fong> uhhhh how do i check?
[02:19] <alyssa_> Pobega: thanks mate! :)
[02:19] <alyssa_> Pobega: Atleast now we are on the same page!
[02:19] <Pobega> alyssa_: To be honest, I've never seen anything like this! I would actually post the errors that xorg is giving you on the forums, maybe there is something I'm missing.
[02:19] <fredl> IdleOne, it just seems that sudo nvidia-xconfig put the resolutions in the xorg.conf that way, with 1024x768 as the max res
[02:19] <CookedGryphon> fong: go into synaptic, then tools -> repositories and check all the extra ones on the first tab (apart from source if you don't want it)
[02:20] <CookedGryphon> fong: then try again
[02:20] <Pobega> alyssa_: What was the error again?
[02:20] <Svish> bin files.. are they just to run? or do I need to do something with them first for ubuntu?
[02:20] <alyssa_> Pobega: hang on.. lemme dig the error out and send it to you with my xorg.conf
[02:20] <Pobega> alyssa_: Okay, nopaste it.
[02:20] <fredl> I also don't get an nvidia splash screen when X starts up, shouldn't it show that?
[02:21] <Daverocks> fredl: you can set it to not display the splash screen, but more likely is that the drivers aren't working
[02:21] <kiamo> when i installed azureuz manually it worked
[02:21] <fredl> Daverocks, I appear to have the nvidia kernel module loaded....
[02:22] <kiamo> but then i unistalled it to install it the ubuntu way and it doesnt work
[02:22] <Daverocks> fredl: do you have direct rendering?
[02:22] <kiamo> no SSL provider available or something...
[02:22] <kiamo> any one able to help?
[02:22] <fredl> Daverocks,
[02:22] <alyssa_> Pobega: Here is my error: (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.6 (1406)
[02:22] <alyssa_> Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 13 nodes)
[02:22] <alyssa_> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[02:22] <alyssa_> (**) Option "SHMConfig"
[02:22] <alyssa_> (**) Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
[02:22] <fong> cookedgryphon: theeeeeeeeree they are!:)
[02:22] <fredl> oops
[02:22] <alyssa_> Query no Synaptics: 6003C8
[02:22] <alyssa_> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[02:22] <alyssa_> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[02:22] <alyssa_> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad"
[02:22] <Pobega> kiamo: Azureus gives me a lot of troubles, I gave up on it. I'd recommend just using the command btdownloadcurses <file>
[02:22] <Pobega> !paste | alyssa_
[02:22] <ubotu> alyssa_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:22] <jklint> Anyone come across an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 going into dependency issues after the first update? I am getting an error with openoffice: openoffice.org-core conflicts with openoffice.org-writer (<< 2.0.4-0ubuntu4)  openoffice.org-writer (version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2) is installed.
[02:22] <alyssa_> Pobega: And my xorg.conf is a long one, do you reckon I can paste it all?
[02:23] <Pobega> Paste it all in there
[02:23] <fredl> Daverocks, lemme see what Xorg.0.log says about that, I just ran nvidia-config so maybe...
[02:23] <fong> cookedgryphon: thanks
[02:23] <CookedGryphon> fong: np
[02:23] <kiamo> thanks Pobega, ill keep that in mind
[02:23] <kiamo> is it generally not such a good idea to use the java enviroment?
[02:23] <Daverocks> fredl: you just need to do "glxinfo | grep ^direct"
[02:23] <Pobega> kiamo: In all honesty, I've prodded Azureus for hours. Since I don't know Java I just gave up on it.
[02:23] <lotacus> guys, i have ntfs partitions mounted in /mnt and thought this would show icons in "computer" where "filesystem" is mounted. This was not true. How do I go about mounting the volumes so they appear in "computer"
[02:24] <Pobega> kiamo: Personally I find Java to be slow and unresponsive, so I prefer terminal clients.
[02:24] <fredl> Daverocks, it says 'yes'
[02:24] <Daverocks> fredl: so then the drivers are there ^_^ check the "Device" section of your xorg.conf and see if it says something similar to Option "NoLogo" "True"
[02:24] <lotacus> Azureus works fine
[02:24] <Pobega> lotacus: Why not just cd to /mnt/folder?
[02:24] <alyssa_> Pobega: Here is the link that said "download as text" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2529/plain/
[02:25] <fredl> Daverocks, seems 3D works as well 17803 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3560.448 FPS
[02:25] <Pobega> alyssa_: Okay, now for the error.
[02:25] <lotacus> cuz I don't like dropping to console just to browse a dir
[02:25] <Daverocks> fredl: yeah that's good, but i was just trying to determine the cause of the lack of splash screen
[02:25] <alyssa_> Pobega: Pasting the error.
[02:25] <Pobega> lotacus: You could always forward Nautilus there, or run nautilus /mnt/folder
[02:25] <fong> another question, whats the best tool to use to convert PST files including attachments to evolution?
[02:26] <fredl> Daverocks, nope, no Option "NoLogo"
[02:26] <Pobega> lotacus: Computer's a nautilus thing, so I really have no experience with it myself.
[02:26] <Daverocks> fredl: hm, that's kind of strange
[02:26] <lotacus> hmm
[02:26] <lotacus> i'll search for "filesystem" and see where it's mounted
[02:26] <zOap> where can I put .ico files for each program? I mean the left corner icoof the window. Like Xterm doesnt have a ico, and I want to make one simple to make it stand out in the Alt+Tab list...
[02:26] <alyssa_> Pobega: Here is the link for the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2530/plain/
[02:26] <fredl> Daverocks, and it seems nvidia-config has put a weird monitor in the xorg.conf
[02:27] <fong> i like synaptics.. easy installation!
[02:27] <wikiwurm> nee help with rsh. who can help a linux newbe
[02:27] <incorrect> i have 2TB of disk array, what file system is best for that?
[02:27] <lotacus> hmm it seems that everything in there is mounted to computer://
[02:27] <IdleOne> !ask | wikiwurm
[02:27] <ubotu> wikiwurm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:27] <erUSUL> fong: http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/index.html?page=/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/importing-mail-and-settings.html
[02:27] <kiamo> hmm
[02:27] <Pobega> (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.6 (1406)
[02:27] <Pobega> Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 13 nodes)
[02:28] <Pobega> That would be your problem I'd think, so let's see.
[02:28] <fong> erUSUL, thanks!
[02:28] <lotacus> now I have to remember how to mount/unmount
[02:28] <alyssa_> Pobega: yes, I noticed that.
[02:28] <lotacus> lol
[02:28] <kiamo> playing dvds in vlc gives me a segmentation error, and totem doesnt give me subtitles or menus etc...
[02:28] <kiamo> what could be the problem?
[02:29] <wikiwurm> i want to execute a simple command on a remote host for testing. ex: rsh remotehost date
[02:29] <fotoflo_> why does an idle vino-server process take 60 % of my sysload?
[02:29] <wikiwurm> it is not working, only one way
[02:29] <lotacus> :S
[02:29] <piao> how to know is OS support framebuffer.....?
[02:29] <fredl> Daverocks, I have a widescreen LCD screen, you happen to know if nvidia-xconfig will try to detect that?
[02:29] <lotacus> mount point computer:// does not exisit
[02:29] <lotacus> lol
[02:29] <lotacus> wtf
[02:29] <Daverocks> fredl: yes
[02:29] <Pobega> alyssa_: And you said you've tried loads of Booleans "yes" values in xorg, right?
[02:29] <Pobega> boolean*
[02:30] <fong> is there a limit to the number of questions i ask here?
[02:30] <fredl> Daverocks, well it seems to detect it as a braindead monitor that can't do anything :)
[02:30] <alyssa_> Pobega: yes, on, 1 :(
[02:30] <Pobega> true?
[02:30] <Daverocks> fredl: lol
[02:30] <incorrect> ext3 is : for 2tb
[02:30] <alyssa_> Pobega: yeah, tried true too.. :(
[02:30] <lotacus> oh they are all desktop configuration files in "computer"
[02:30] <Pobega> Have you tried it with a capital? I'm not sure about xorg but I know a lot of things are case sensitive for boolean
[02:30] <vikas> Hi, I have a very queer issue, when i try to mount any fs, i get the error -- "mtab permission denied"
[02:31] <vikas> when i do 'ls -l' on mtab, i get this:
[02:31] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: i use the xine backend for totem and i think its a lot better, that has menus etc.
[02:31] <vikas> ?---------  ? ?      ?            ?            ? mtab
[02:31] <Svish> !setenv
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setenv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <zak_> lotacus: computer: is a gnome-specific thing - it is of no meaning to the rest of the OS. gnome afaik picks up all mounted partitions and puts them in computer:// [a gnome-visible-only folder]  for convenience
[02:31] <Svish> !classpath
[02:31] <ubotu> classpath: clean room standard Java libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:0.92-3 (edgy), package size 346 kB, installed size 572 kB
[02:31] <alyssa_> Pobega: no havent tried True, though. But since I seem to have an alps-touchpad (Fujitsu support driver list), how do you think synaptics is connected?
[02:31] <Lunar_Lamp> I want to print a banner. That is, words in very large letters that spread over several pages, [like] [words] [spread] [onto] [pages] [like] [this] .  Would someone recommend me an application to do this in please?
[02:32] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, how do i do that?
[02:32] <zak_> lotacus: not sure about the context of what you were saying though, so excuse me if i'm commenting on the wrong thing
[02:32] <jklint> Anyone come across an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 going into dependecy issues after the first update? I am getting an error with openoffice: openoffice.org-core conflicts with openoffice.org-writer (<< 2.0.4-0ubuntu4)  openoffice.org-writer (version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2) is installed.
[02:32] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: apt-get install totem-xine
[02:32] <lotacus> zak_ so if  mounted NTFS partitions to /media they would show up? or would I have to create a desktop config file?
[02:32] <Svish> how can I do this in ubuntu? :
[02:32] <Svish>            setenv JMFHOME /home/someuser/JMF2.1.1
[02:32] <Svish>           setenv CLASSPATH $JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar:.:${CLASSPATH}:
[02:32] <Pobega> alyssa_: Because right after it says loading synaptics it says "(**) Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0""
[02:32] <Pobega> Then it goes right to an error.
[02:32] <Svish> there is no setenv program..
[02:32] <vikas> Svish, are  you using bash or csh?
[02:32] <Svish> what?
[02:32] <alyssa_> Pobega: what does that mean?
[02:33] <vikas> the commands you are using are for csh
[02:33] <Svish> vikas: im in the terminal, ubuntu
[02:33] <erUSUL> Svish: just define the variables and export them in .bashrc or .bash_profile of the desired user(s)
[02:33] <vikas> Svish, do this: 'echo $SHELL'
[02:33] <Pobega> alyssa_: I'm pretty sure it was trying to load up your scroll thing, and it didn't find anything. I'd post this on the forums, URL to your xorg.conf and error, and quote the important bits.
[02:33] <kiamo> lol it installed
[02:33] <zak_> lotacus: they should show up... i think... but i'm not really sure how gnome handles it - it *might* only work if it's mounted from /etc/fstab - or you might need to run some utility to make an icon for it or do it manually... but it *should* all happen automagically
[02:33] <Svish> vikas: ok, it returned /bin/bash
[02:33] <kiamo> but then when i tried to play a dvd it logged me out hahaha
[02:33] <kiamo> weird....
[02:34] <alyssa_> Pobega: thanks a bunch for that mate! You are a legend!
[02:34] <CookedGryphon> incredibly weird
[02:34] <Pobega> alyssa_: I'm still pretty new to Ubuntu and Linux in general so I'm probably missing something obvious
[02:34] <vikas> Svish, then replace the 'setenv' with 'export'
[02:34] <Pobega> alyssa_: But good luck getting it fixed!
[02:34] <lotacus> yea I will try or try binding the already  mounted partitions
[02:34] <Svish> so.. export JMFHOME /home/someuser/JMF2.1.1 ?
[02:34] <kiamo> it did it again!
[02:34] <erUSUL> Svish: in bash you use export JMFHOME=/home/someuser/JMF2.1.1
[02:34] <wikiwurm> i want to execute a simple command on a remote host for testing. ex: rsh remotehost date. it is not working, only one way
[02:34] <alyssa_> Pobega: for now, I have settled for not using those buttons.
[02:34] <vikas> like so: export  JMFHOME=/me/someuser/JMF2.1.1
[02:35] <Pobega> alyssa_: Well if your touchpad is anything like mine, my scrollbar is on the right side of it. Have you tried to see if it does that on yours?
[02:35] <kiamo> why would playing a dvd log me out?
[02:35] <Lunar_Lamp> I want to print a banner. That is, words in very large letters that spread over several pages, [like] [words] [spread] [onto] [pages] [like] [this] .  Would someone recommend me an application to do this in please? It would be something like MS Publisher that is needed.
[02:35] <alyssa_> Pobega: dragging on the extreme right of the touchpad, my mouse pointer moves up and down.. not scrolling.
[02:35] <CookedGryphon> kiamo, the only thing i can think of is if your graphics drivers don't like it, and so your x server dies, and gets restarted
[02:36] <kiamo> hmm
[02:36] <SeraVitae> hi there, im not looking to do this just yet, just putting the idea out there
[02:36] <erUSUL> Lunar_Lamp: scribus  maybe ?
[02:36] <kiamo> i think thers bigger problems at hand...
[02:36] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: what graphics drivers are you using?
[02:36] <Pobega> alyssa_: Ah, damn. Okay, just post in Laptops & Hardware and hope a Linux guru comes along.
[02:36] <wikiwurm> what i have to configure, that the second linux box is also listen to rsh command? or allowed it?
[02:36] <kiamo> the ati ones for my radeon
[02:36] <user-land> Now i am trying to see the files on an Audio CD, but Nautilus does not let me.
[02:36] <lotacus> lmao
[02:36] <SeraVitae> but there are like, very limited apps in windows that i need to use. i was thinking, since i will have dual screen in ubuntu soon, that it would be cool to full screen a vmware windows box on one screen and have ubuntu on the other.. does that seem feasible?
[02:36] <alyssa_> Would the clipboard link be available long? can I just point to that URL or what?
[02:36] <Svish> vikas: and then export CLASSPATH=$JMFHOME/lib/jmf.jar:.:${CLASSPATH}: ?
[02:36] <Pobega> alyssa_: Good luck with it, I'm going to log off for now.
[02:36] <lotacus> that didn't work. I went into media and it mounted my ntfs partition as "media".
[02:36] <triceratops> due to freedesktop org Bug 7097 keystrokes for Zoom X Desktop don't work. Am I right that the listed patch No2 is not included in Ubuntu Xorg? Does anyone know if there is a way to have X zoom keystrokes?
[02:37] <kiamo> i was having trouble with mplayer as well, iv tried lots of things to get dvds working but i guess this is the reason nothing works...
[02:37] <Pobega> alyssa_: Yeah, it should be available for a long while.
[02:37] <Pobega> !paste
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <fredl> Hmm I only had to comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh in my xorg.conf and then add the "1680x1050" resolution to my xorg.conf
[02:37] <Pobega> alyssa_: The site doesn't say how long, I'd assume 30 days or so.
[02:37] <vikas> Svish, yes
[02:37] <alyssa_> Pobega: okie.
[02:37] <Pobega> alyssa_: Goodbye and good luck.
[02:37] <wikiwurm> no linux and rsh specialist here?
[02:37] <vikas> Svish, the last ':
[02:37] <fredl> still odd that I'm not getting any nvidia splash though.
[02:37] <vikas> Svish, the last ':' is not necessary
[02:38] <NinjaDuck> anyone know how to fix sound broken in a system update?
[02:38] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: yet they play without menus in totem-gstreamer?
[02:38] <alyssa_> Pobega: Thanks for that mate! I truely appreciate your help. I hope I can return the favor to you or anyone else that needs help!
[02:38] <kiamo> yes
[02:38] <kiamo> kinda
[02:38] <lotacus> what's the syntax to unbind something?
[02:38] <alyssa_> Pobega: bye for now.
[02:38] <fredl> that makes me suspicious that my GPU is working in sub-optimal mode HRmmm.
[02:38] <kiamo> the bonus discs of lord of the rings dont work even to taht level
[02:38] <sorush20> !pdf
[02:38] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:38] <kiamo> i just get some credits
[02:38] <kiamo> haha
[02:39] <Svish> vikas: ok, echo $CLASSPATH returned /home/torleif/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/jmf.jar:.:
[02:39] <Svish> vikas: what is the last :.: for?
[02:39] <lotacus> like I did sudo mount --bind /mnt/windows2 /media which didn't give me the expected results, now I want to undo that change.
[02:39] <fong> does export save it permanently?
[02:39] <Surge> Man, I'm gonna kill my computer
[02:40] <Surge> This thing just rejects Ubuntu 'cause it's Linux, I know it
[02:40] <wikiwurm> do anybody have knowledge abaut RSH??
[02:40] <blackest> export i don't think so fong
[02:40] <vikas> Svish, that last thing should be ':."
[02:40] <Svish> vikas: how do I fix that?
[02:40] <vikas> Svish, ':' separates the paths, and '.' represents current directory
[02:40] <ben_m> hmm, fluxbox gives me a headache :|
[02:40] <ben_m> my fonts are huge
[02:40] <pucko-> How do I find the public key to use with apt-get for http://wine.budgetdedicated.com (wine builds for edgy)? There is nothing on the website
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: well you should be able to change by right clicking and skipping to chapter, but that's far from ideal. Thing is if gstreamer can play it, why can't anything else
[02:41] <tim__b> hey ubunties, i once had installed a tool to backup data to cd/dvd. it generated a kind of checksum file to restore burned data once a file on media was damaged. anyone knows what's the name of that tool?
[02:41] <vikas> Svish, execute that command with the last ':' omitted
[02:41] <Svish> vikas: but http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jmf/2.1.1/jmfdiagnostics.html still says that my JMF classes are not found...
[02:41] <kiamo> sigh, i wish i new CookedGryphon  ;) haha its one of my many troubles in linux ;)
[02:41] <zak_> Svish: run a new terminal [the file is only loaded when the terminal starts] 
[02:42] <blackest> any idea how to stop firefox doing a seg fault on loading certain pages
[02:42] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: to put totem back to playing them without menus do apt-get install totem-gstreamer by the way
[02:42] <Svish> zak_: opened a new terminal and a new firefox, but still not found in the applet
[02:43] <kiamo> hehe thanks
[02:43] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: all i can think of is the output method causing the problem in xine... are you usig xgl or anything by the way?
[02:43] <fotoflo_> hmm
[02:43] <kiamo> xgl sounds familiar
[02:43] <kiamo> umm hang on
[02:43] <kiamo> ill see if i can find out
[02:44] <Svish> echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[02:44] <fotoflo_> all of a sudden XMMS is on all open desktops, if i move it and switch desktops, it stays in the same position, but switches desktops with me too
[02:44] <kiamo> !ati
[02:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <zak_> Svish: firefox [if you're running it from the menu or something]  won't pick up the environment variables until you log out and in again... but running it from the [new]  terminal should work
[02:44] <Svish> lol.. that shouldve been in the terminal..
[02:44] <fotoflo_> any ideas whats happening?
[02:44] <Svish> zak_: how do I run http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jmf/2.1.1/jmfdiagnostics.html from the terminal?
[02:44] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, yea im using fglrx
[02:44] <fotoflo_> oh fixed it
[02:45] <fong> what's the command to find out where an executable/binary is located?
[02:45] <Vandalay> whereis
[02:45] <Enverex> Or "which"
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: i wonder if totem-xine would work in a plain x session...
[02:46] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: can you test that?
[02:46] <Enverex> CookedGryphon, Yes it would, any app would
[02:46] <fong> wheeeee!
[02:46] <Dell-Net> hello
[02:46] <Enverex> CookedGryphon, You may not be able to move it around though due to no Window Manager
[02:46] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, how ?
[02:47] <zak_> Svish: either by running firefox [just typing it]  from the terminal, then going there, or using "appletviewer url.html"
[02:47] <Dell-Net> do u know any program to update nvidia drivers ?
[02:47] <Svish> um... Where did the classpath go?? after opening new terminal, echo $CLASSPATH returns nothing
[02:47] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, i tried to play dvds from the cmd line with mplayer but that didnt work either, altho i did get sound
[02:48] <CookedGryphon> Enverex: not quite what i was talking about, kiamo's having trouble with his x session crashign when he tries to play dvds
[02:48] <zak_> Svish: hmm... well, i wasn't following the conversation very well, so i'm not 100% sure how it was set up, but someone should be able to help - i'm going to bed however
[02:49] <lotacus> how do I unmount a filesystem? and a "bind" of a filesystem?
[02:49] <romedog> that dvd issue couldnt that be a codec issue
[02:49] <lotacus> I did man 8 mount and the manual said there was an unmount command but it's nonexisitant
[02:49] <Svish> zak_: ok. I used export variablename=value
[02:49] <Vandalay> umount
[02:49] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, with vlc it just closes the program after a segmentation error, and mplayer i cant remember what it said...
[02:49] <kiamo> but neither of the other 2 close X
[02:50] <zak_> Svish: and you put it in .bashrc?
[02:50] <CookedGryphon> okay then
[02:50] <CookedGryphon> could you try mplayer again and give me the error message?
[02:50] <kiamo> hehe
[02:50] <kiamo> um
[02:50] <kiamo> ok, but first
[02:50] <kiamo> how do i remove any trace of it
[02:50] <Svish> zak_: i dont know, lol. he just told me to run export
[02:50] <Svish> zak_: dont know what that does..
[02:51] <Svish> zak_: but I think I have found a tutorial on how to do this here now....
[02:51] <Svish> zak_: so you just go to bed if you want to :)
[02:51] <kiamo> because first time i installed it via compiling, and then makeuninstalled, and then tried to install via add/remove but it says it conficts with somethign that is already there
[02:51] <fotoflo_> im having a lot of trouble with samba, how do i get swat to work?
[02:51] <zak_> Svish: oh, i think he meant put it in the .bashrc file [eg, by running "gedit ~/.bashrc" and adding whatever lines to the end]  - this is the file that's run each time you open a new terminal
[02:51] <Vandalay> you must specify users to may use it
[02:51] <lotacus> like wtf. I googled unmounting in ubuntu and it is all refering to the command unmount but I get "command not found"
[02:51] <kiamo> brb
[02:51] <lotacus> oh
[02:51] <lotacus> LOL
[02:52] <lotacus> I read wrong. umount
[02:52] <fotoflo_> its umount
[02:52] <Vandalay> unmount -n
[02:52] <zak_> Svish: using export from the terminal by just running it will only take effect in that terminal session
[02:52] <fotoflo_> can anyone help me get either samba or swat to work?
[02:52] <wezzie> !NTFS
[02:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:52] <erUSUL> !samba
[02:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:52] <erUSUL> !samba > fotoflo_
[02:52] <PhibreOptix> Hey guys I was wondering if anybody knows why if I have xmms open when I start Frostwire I can't preview music files until I restart Frostwire with xmms closed?
[02:52] <Svish> zak_: ah ok. how can I make it permanent then?
[02:53] <fong> does anyone have a documentation for the best way to manage installations/files, assuming that the program that i want installed is not in the package list?
[02:53] <Svish> i am in the /etc/bash.bashrc file now. do i just add like, $JMFHOME=somepath at the end of the file or?
[02:53] <fong> or would it be safe to assume that ALMOST everything can be installed via apt-get?
[02:54] <aku> #semarang
[02:54] <erUSUL> fong: man checkinstall
[02:54] <erUSUL> !info checkinstall
[02:54] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 88 kB, installed size 392 kB
[02:54] <PhibreOptix> fong: If you can't find it in apt-get either make sure you check www.getdeb.net
[02:54] <zak_> Svish: putting the export thingos in bashrc will make it permanent [but require you to open a new terminal for it to take effect, and you'll need to log out and in again for it to take effect system-wide] 
[02:54] <kaptengu> is it possible to move a primary partition to be placed before another primary partition?
[02:55] <lotacus> :S
[02:55] <lotacus> this mounting is difficult.
[02:55] <sorush20> !qmake
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <lotacus> i think I have to reboot or something
[02:55] <Svish> zak_: aha, so I add the whole export JMFHOME=bla bla there?
[02:55] <sorush20> where can I find qmake
[02:56] <lotacus> the folder is there after unmounting. :S but doesn't list anyting in the dir, but when I go to properties it says 16GB
[02:56] <lotacus> and I can't remount it
[02:56] <lotacus> using sudo
[02:56] <zak_> Svish: yep
[02:56] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, now mplayer is saying that it cant be installed on my computer type (amd64)
[02:56] <PhibreOptix> lotacus: Try rebooting then
[02:56] <kiamo> so i have to compile it then?
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> or else look around for a third party repository
[02:57] <lotacus> um
[02:57] <zak_> Svish: bashrc files are just a bunch of normal shell commands, only they're executed every time the shell is started
[02:57] <lotacus> unmounting will also unbind the mount as well? cuz i have it bind to /media
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> i thought there were mplay 64bit packages tho...
[02:57] <kiamo> yea
[02:57] <sekcon> anyone know how i can use a sudo command in the startup programs in sessions dialog?
[02:57] <j3g> is there a proper way to install tomcat 5.5 on a ubuntu LTS (6.06) server? other than installing it from source?
[02:57] <kiamo> ill just compile it
[02:57] <fong> maaaaan i love this
[02:57] <kiamo> hehe
[02:57] <j3g> a way to get a backport from edgy or something like that?
[02:59] <sekcon> anyone know how i can use a sudo command in the startup programs in the sessions dialog?
[02:59] <PhibreOptix> Is it safe to just upgrade from dapper to edgy? Or should I do a fresh install?
[02:59] <IdleOne> !upgrade | PhibreOptix
[02:59] <ubotu> PhibreOptix: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:01] <Past_Images> hey guys i'm getting a new isp soon and i wondered if anyone would be kind enough to give me a gmail invite, it would be useful for the transition to have a good webbased account, please if anyone on gmail invite me... my email is jonah at mad as a fish dot com
[03:02] <fong> is wireshark same as ethereal?
[03:02] <Daverocks> Past_Images: you don't need a gmail invite anymore to sign up for gmail
[03:02] <Daverocks> fong: yes, it was renamed
[03:03] <fong> daverocks, what was the reason? i liked ethereal.
[03:03] <fong> heheh
[03:03] <Daverocks> fong: i think they got a legal threat or something
[03:03] <Daverocks> i liked it too :P
[03:03] <wezzie> !mp3
[03:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:04] <NinjaDuck12> any chance i could get some help with a sound issue?
[03:04] <fotoflo_> ok, i just finally got samba working!
[03:04] <fotoflo_> now how do i make it turn on at boot-time?
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: possibly, what's the issue?
[03:04] <sebastien__> hi
[03:05] <fong> how come the site still lets you download it as ethereal?
[03:05] <Daverocks> fong: don't know
[03:05] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: i just updated the system (dapper) and now my onboard sound doesn't work, where as previously it was fine
[03:08] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, sorry this is taking so long
[03:08] <fong> how about hibernate/suspend? my installation doesn't seem to be able to support this one
[03:08] <fong> is it supported in ubuntu?
[03:08] <kiamo> i noticed ATI binary X.Org driver is ticked in the add remove, should it be so when i installed the drivers manually?
[03:09] <instabin> !beryl
[03:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:09] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: i'm not sure, haven't ever used the ati drivers
[03:09] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: do you get any errormessages?
[03:09] <ucordes> how can i set the dvb-t transponder in dvbstream?
[03:09] <ucordes> it sais UK
[03:09] <fong> !networkmanager
[03:09] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:09] <kiamo> but if i install something manually that add remove has it will tick it for me yea?
[03:09] <fong> !wireless
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:10] <instabin> any one here doing folding at home?
[03:10] <ucordes> instabin: what do you mean by folding?
[03:10] <vincenz> Hello, suddenly I seem to be having an issue with tex/latex.  After installing lhs2tex package, I got an error when it tried to configure, now my pdflatex does not work anymore, and in fact now even reinstalling tex-bin and tex-base and tex-common gives me the same problem: mktexfmt: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully
[03:10] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, (mplayer is compiling btw)
[03:10] <fong> !food
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <fong> hehehehe
[03:10] <instabin> ucordes : http://folding.stanford.edu/
[03:11] <fong> !ethereal
[03:11] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[03:11] <Pici> !botabuse | fong
[03:11] <ubotu> fong: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:11] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: nope, but the progress bar doesn't move on audio files
[03:11] <instabin> ucordes : its  a program that uses your spare cpu time to find cures for cancer
[03:11] <fong> sorry
[03:11] <nawty> Hi guys, any one know if it's possible to install 6.06.01 server with LVM and GRUB ?
[03:11] <nawty> currently, if i install it, i end up with lilo.
[03:12] <instabin> nawty : anything is possible
[03:12] <Kyral> nawty: sudo apt-get install grub :P
[03:12] <vincenz> I can paste my udmap-sys.log if you want...
[03:12] <Kyral> instabin: Not exactly
[03:12] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: have you tried different media players? also try playing somethign simple like a wav file
[03:12] <nawty> Kyral: :P i suppose that'd work, i was wondering if that would work on boot :(
[03:12] <Kyral> instabin: Anything is possible with linux :P
[03:12] <nawty> instabin: yes, we KNOW that ;)
[03:12] <ucordes> instabin: somehow reminds me to seti
[03:12] <Kyral> nawty: Try it
[03:12] <Kyral> err
[03:12] <instabin> Kyral: ;P smarta** LOL
[03:12] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: and try playing the wav file with plain "playsound " command
[03:12] <nawty> Kyral: yeh, it'll take me a little while to try, i suppose...
[03:13] <Kyral> instabin: Damn streight :D
[03:13] <fong> if i'm currently using my wireless interface, that prevents me from scanning and using wireshark right?
[03:13] <instabin> lol
[03:13] <Kyral> fong: Nope
[03:13] <Kyral> just set it to scan using the Wireless
[03:13] <Kyral> oh ****
[03:13] <Kyral> What am I doing
[03:13] <Kyral> I need to head to class
[03:13] <Pici> fong : You cant use something like kismet while using your wireless though
[03:14] <instabin> any one play cs:source... I having problems getting it running under wine or cedega 5.2.10
[03:14] <fong> Pici: what about wireshark? basically i need a program to provide me with an interface which makes wifi connection easy. any suggestions?
[03:14] <Pici> Did you check the cedega wiki?
[03:14] <anti_system32> saLa en espaol
[03:14] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: i didn't have a WAV file immediately available so i tried a divx file in totem and the sound worked on that
[03:14] <instabin> Pici: yes
[03:14] <Pici> fong : not sure, I havent used wireshark with my wifi card
[03:14] <CookedGryphon> fong have you tried gnome-network-manager
[03:15] <Lynoure> !es | anti_system32
[03:15] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:15] <fong> cookedgryphon:let me check on that first
[03:15] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: then that suggests that the file you were playing was in an unsupported format for that media player
[03:15] <instabin> Pici : they where suposed to fix the steam updates with 5.2.10 but i just cant log in to steam
[03:15] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: what format was it?
[03:15] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: mp3, which worked before
[03:15] <CookedGryphon> what media player?
[03:15] <Vandalay> game support is suboptimal in linux
[03:15] <CookedGryphon> fong: the package is jsut called network-manager
[03:15] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: in rhythmbox
[03:16] <vincenz> Anyone know why I'm havng issues installing (well reinstalling now as something f*cked it up) my tex/tetex packages
[03:16] <vincenz> it has a problem with udpmap or something to that extent
[03:16] <fong> cookedgryphon: ah yes, currently i already installed that.. but it can't detect any wireless interface. when i click on it, it just shows wired connection
[03:16] <CookedGryphon> ok well you probably need to install some new gstreamer plugins because the package layout changed when moving from gstreamer 0.8 to 0.10
[03:16] <Pici> vincenz : what error are you getting?
[03:16] <fong> and its even grayed out
[03:16] <Jedrick> is there a download manager for linux? like on windows getright or getflash
[03:16] <vincenz> Pici: mktexfmt: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully
[03:17] <vincenz> Pici: on all tex-operations
[03:17] <Vandalay> prozilla
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> fong: i think you need to turn off the normal management of wireless networks, one second
[03:17] <Pici> hmm..
[03:17] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: i see. got any valuable links on that?
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: try going thru synaptic and installing gstreamer-bad
[03:17] <Jedrick> is there a download manager for linux? like on windows getright or getflash
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> or else look on the ubuntu wiki for restricted formats and jsut go thru that
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> !mp3
[03:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <vincenz> Pici: I think it might have something to do with the file /etc/texmk/dvipi.cfg (iirc), as it appears that the lhs2stex package changed this somewhat
[03:19] <fong> the gnome network manager homepage lacks user guides!
[03:19] <CookedGryphon> now fong, i seem to remember that when i first used network-manager, it didn't want to play until i'd disabled all other wireless setup stuff, so go into network settings and disable all your wireless connections
[03:19] <Jedrick> is there a download manager for linux? like on windows getright or getflash... anyone?
[03:19] <CookedGryphon> Jedrick: d4l
[03:19] <kiamo> whats the cmd for changing i directory name?
[03:19] <CookedGryphon> Jedrick: or i actually use one inside firefox as an extension, can';t remember the name
[03:19] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: mv
[03:20] <kiamo> ah thanks
[03:20] <fong> cookedgryphon, to disable, adminstration->networking-> untick enable on the wireless interface right?
[03:20] <vincenz> Pici: how do I get the error-log from synaptic, cause as soon as it finishes you can't select the text anymore
[03:20] <CookedGryphon> fong: yeah, should work
[03:20] <Jedrick> CookedGryphon:  how ?
[03:20] <vincenz> Pici: it seems to be an issue when it calls fmtutil-sys during the configuration of tetex
[03:20] <IdleOne> Jedrick: good idea to let your question scroll of the page before asking again. maybe no one knows or maybe they are searching but asking every 2 minutes wont get your answer any faster. btw google is your friend
[03:20] <fong> did that, then uninstall, reinstall the network-manager, then logged out, logged in.. still not available.
[03:20] <^robertj> is there an official package available for java in commercial or multiverse?
[03:20] <fong> so thus, the search for an alternative
[03:20] <kiamo> finally
[03:21] <CookedGryphon> fong: it has a daemon that runs in the background, and i'm n#ot sure where that gets started up....
[03:21] <kiamo> CookedGryphon, im done haha, opening up gmplayer gives me errors instantly...
[03:21] <fong> so i need to run the service first before running the applet?
[03:21] <IdleOne> !java ^robertj
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java ^robertj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <IdleOne> !java | ^robertj
[03:21] <ubotu> ^robertj: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:21] <kiamo> New_Face failed. maybe the font path is wrong
[03:21] <CookedGryphon> kiamo: ah well, at least you've got somethign to work with,
[03:21] <kiamo> hehe yup :)
[03:22] <Pici> vincenz : Try looking in /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:22] <ucordes> how can i set the dvb-t transponder in dvbstream?
[03:22] <fong> how do you look at what services are currently running?
[03:22] <vincenz> 2007-01-22 15:19:24 status half-configured tetex-bin 3.0-17ubuntu2
[03:22] <CookedGryphon> fong: i think its called NetworkManagerD of something
[03:22] <fong> Dispatcher
[03:22] <Vandalay> system-administration-services
[03:23] <CookedGryphon> fong: try "ps -ae |grep NetworkManager
[03:23] <vincenz> Pici: aha
[03:23] <Pici> aha?
[03:23] <kiamo> ok
[03:23] <NinjaDuck12> CookedGryphon: i looked in synaptic and i see a lot of packages labeled "gstreamer", most of which are installed, but none with the name "gstreamer-bad"
[03:23] <vincenz> Pici: http://rafb.net/p/XTOgUp36.html
[03:24] <kiamo> i got more font face errors before X restarted agian
[03:24] <fong> yikes, i think i ran two processes
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> Jedrick: search on firefox add-ons for downthemall, if that doesn't suit your needs, go into the package manager and try installing d4l
[03:24] <fong> anyway, its on
[03:24] <blueonyx> hi
[03:24] <fong> anyone have a good idea on hibernate/suspend?
[03:25] <CookedGryphon> fong: hmm, how happy are you editing /etc/networking/interfaces?
[03:25] <fong> i can do that
[03:25] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: its gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[03:26] <fong> read somewhere about the longer way right?
[03:26] <fong> hehehe.. if it works, then i can do it
[03:26] <vincenz> where do I find my mp.pool
[03:26] <rance1> what is the best way to generate entropy for the /dev/random device? I'm trying to generate a key, but the proces hangs when /dev/random runs out of data, yes I could change to /dev/urandom but im trying to figure out how to avoid that
[03:26] <CookedGryphon> NinjaDuck12: just try installing all the gstreamer packages apart from dev doc and dbg ones
[03:26] <fong> what i dont want is the restart part
[03:27] <erUSUL> rance1: move the mouse around....
[03:27] <CookedGryphon> fong: if you sudo gedit /etc/networking/interfaces and comment out everything apart from the "auto ..." lines, e.g. auto eth0
[03:27] <mariux> does the ubuntu livecd come with gparted?
[03:27] <Pici> vincenz : this is a bit over my head, but try doing find / | grep mp.pool
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> fong: save that, then do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[03:28] <_Roman> I am using Ubuntu 6.06, I have enabled the backports repository so that I can install Flash 9.  The problem is that it gets a 404 when it tries to download the file: it is looking for http://download.macromedia.compub/labs/flashplayer9_update/FP9_plugin_beta_112006.tar.gz which does not seem to exist.  Has anyone else had this problem/has a fix?
[03:28] <vincenz> Pici: ouch
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> fong: then try network manager again
[03:28] <vincenz> Pici: ok, thanks :)
[03:29] <rance1> erUSUL: sorry but mouse isnt an option as Im SSHing to the box
[03:29] <fong> can you pop me the link of the document you're looking at cookedgryphon?
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> fong: i'm afraid i'm working from my brain
[03:30] <fong> oohhh
[03:30] <kiamo> where do i find subfont.ttf ?
[03:30] <fong> oooops
[03:30] <squeaks> hey all, i have a version of flex 2.5.33 that i need to downgrade to 2.5.31, i was hoping a 'backport' would do it, but backports are the reverse of what i need, what is it called that i'm trying to do?
[03:31] <squeaks> 2.5.31 is not available in my distribution
[03:35] <kiamo> where are the fonts kept in edgy?
[03:36] <kiamo> and what does symlinking mean?
[03:36] <vincenz> I'm getting problems on the install of tetex-biin
[03:36] <vincenz> it has problems with running mf, mpost, etc
[03:37] <incorrect> are there any issues with running a newer kernel on dapper?
[03:38] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/p/hv1cwa51.html
[03:39] <kiamo> !font
[03:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:39] <kiamo> !mplayer
[03:39] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:39] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:40] <ceztko> hi!
[03:41] <CookedGryphon> hi ceztko
[03:41] <vincenz> !fmtutil
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fmtutil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <vincenz> :/
[03:43] <ceztko> all: question about unix permissions: in my system, i'm ceztko:users, and i'm also member of "projectgroup". There's a dir "project", owned by apache:projectgroup with perms 770. Is it possible that, when i enter in this directory "project", ownership of files created by me is set as ceztko:projectgroup ?
[03:43] <tuskernini> how do i print in the commandline?
[03:43] <tuskernini> do i have to prepare the file being printed?
[03:43] <overridex> what's that command to build a .deb package out of a source tar ball?
[03:44] <Jowi> overridex, you have a few to chose from. my favourite is checkinstall
[03:44] <Jowi> !checkinstall
[03:44] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:44] <ceztko> tuskernini: lpr
[03:45] <overridex> Jowi: yep, checkinstall was what i was thinking of
[03:45] <tuskernini> ceztko, lpr command not found... so i must install it...
[03:45] <ceztko> tuskernini: install cups
[03:45] <tuskernini> i have cups installed
[03:46] <IdleOne> not put coffee in the cups! 2 sugars and milk please :)
[03:46] <incorrect> are ubuntu kernels patched? or are they direct from kernel.org?
[03:46] <LookTJ> Hello
[03:46] <Jowi> ceztko, lpr is a part of cupsys-bsd
[03:47] <LinuxBA> Seveas: Hi
[03:47] <tuskernini> IdleOne, haha
[03:47] <IdleOne> :)
[03:47] <Seveas> hi LinuxBA
[03:47] <Jowi> tuskernini, that was for you btw. "cupsys-bsd"
[03:47] <LookTJ> incorrect: I don't know, I think Ubuntu configures their own kernel
[03:47] <LinuxBA> Seveas: Can you create my cloack, please?
[03:48] <IdleOne> Seveas: IRCop?
[03:48] <tuskernini> Jowi, i installed lpr and it installed something... no i am figuring out how to use it..
[03:48] <incorrect> are there any source packages for dapper greater than 2.6.15?
[03:48] <Seveas> LinuxBA, what's your launchpad homepage?
[03:49] <LinuxBA> Seveas: http://launchpad.net/people/penguim
[03:49] <tuskernini> Jowi, ok installing cupsys-bsd
[03:49] <Seveas> LinuxBA, will do
[03:49] <ceztko> tuskernini: it depends of what you need to print..
[03:50] <tuskernini> ceztko, lets start with a normal text file or jpg...
[03:50] <LinuxBA> Seveas: Ok, thanx;-)
[03:50] <tuskernini> ceztko, ok.. i figured it out... thank you
[03:50] <Pici> vincenz : its a long shot, but try: apt-get -f install
[03:50] <fong> whats the character for comment? #?
[03:50] <fong> or ##?
[03:50] <april_> dfkjlkjldf;ldsdasf
[03:50] <vincenz> Pici: no still a problem with that fmtutil thingy
[03:51] <Pici> vincenz : sorry :/
[03:51] <fong> ?
[03:51] <SushiP> Hi, does anyone know why every time I try to type in my password in the terminal, the input freezes?
[03:52] <Jowi> SushiP, the password you type will not be visible on the screen
[03:52] <UbuntuGuy> HI -- Trying to upgrade to feisty. but update manager gives error "Authentication error" after clicking upgrade button.  What can I do?
[03:52] <SushiP> Not even in asterisks?
[03:52] <Jowi> SushiP, nothing
[03:52] <SushiP> Ohhhhh.
[03:52] <SushiP> Thank you.
[03:52] <tijn> lol
[03:52] <SushiP> That info could have saved me a lot of time XD
[03:53] <gnomefreak> UbuntuGuy: join #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <Pici> fong : what are you trying to comment?
[03:54] <SushiP> Anyone here ever used EciAdsl before?
[03:54] <Pici> fong : i.e. what language?
[03:54] <fong> interfaces file
[03:54] <UbuntuGuy> gnomefreak: thzx
[03:54] <fong> sorry
[03:54] <fong> /etc/network/interface
[03:54] <Pici> fong : should just be #
[03:54] <fong> pici, thanks
[03:56] <fong> dang, cant seem to get network manager to work properly. cookedgryphon, help!
[03:57] <momelod> greetings channel.
[03:59] <momelod> i would like to play music to the local apple airtunes device, but im not sure how to setup under ubuntu? i've installed airport-utils but i can run any of the bins because the package is missing some java apps
[03:59] <momelod> has anyone ever used an airtunes device w/ linux?
[04:00] <NaPsTeR> do u people do software support right here?
[04:00] <NaPsTeR> like for everything?
[04:01] <Nalleman> Hi there, i have a problem conserning "kernel". I have upgradet my system from dapper to edgy but got no kernel with "core duo support". Does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:01] <fong> nalleman, how did you know that the kernel has no core duo support?
[04:01] <Pici> NaPsTeR : just ubuntu (linux) stuff
[04:01] <fong> pici, getting paid to do it?
[04:02] <vincenz> How do I check to which package a file belongs
[04:02] <Nalleman> I can se on the system monitor that only one core is active (or something like it)
[04:02] <Pici> Nope, we're all volunteers
[04:02] <NaPsTeR> kewl thanks...
[04:02] <NaPsTeR> just starting out so may need some support, that kewl?
[04:03] <fong> kool
[04:03] <syock> Pici: Really? You all are, like, here everyday...
[04:03] <dm> how do i run a symbolic link?
[04:03] <dm> ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.0.5
[04:03] <SushiP> Gahhhhhhhhhh EciAdsl won't work.
[04:03] <GiL> hi!
[04:03] <GiL> anybody, help please.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Good (Morning here) to All
[04:03] <syock> ln something something?
[04:03] <fong> where's gryphon?
[04:03] <GiL> where I may ship Alternative CD?
[04:03] <kiamo> i think theres something wrong with my graphics drivers or something
[04:04] <fong> GiL, why not download?
[04:04] <vincenz> Pici: how do I check to which package a file belongs
 i pay for each Mb of traffic :(
[04:04] <fong> that sucks
 in Russia it cost much more than other countries..
[04:04] <kiamo> totem with the xine backend restarts x when I try to play a dvd, and mplayer gives me New_face failed(font trouble) and vlc gives segmentation fault before closing itself
[04:05] <GiL> sorry for my terrible English
[04:05] <riotkittie> i dont think they ship anything but the live cds
[04:05] <fong> in Russia, you have cheaper vodka
[04:05] <fong> hehe
[04:05] <gnomefreak> riotkittie: correct
[04:05] <riotkittie> GiL: your english is great
[04:05] <syock> dm: ln -s ./lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 libSDL-1.2.so.0.0.5 will create at current folder
[04:05] <Delux_247> you can make vodka, its easy
[04:06] <kiamo> what could be causing my video problems
[04:06] <mwalsh> hey guys
[04:06] <mwalsh> anyone here want to help a brother out?
[04:06] <kiamo> totem with gmstream2 or whatever it is places dvds without menus and subs, but only when it auto opens, when i try to open the disk it complains about plugins not there
 Yeah :). In Siberia "vodka" more actually. -30C (-22F).
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kiamo: How did you install the drivers for your video card and how did you install the other add'ins.  Manually or with one of the scripts?
[04:07] <mwalsh> My question exactly
[04:07] <mwalsh> the drivers didnt work for me
[04:07] <overridex> yay, got amarok to transcode files for my ipod on transfer on amd64 :)
[04:07] <mwalsh> no new resolutions were available
[04:07] <Nalleman> anyone; is there any webpage with hints on changing kernel and other trivial stuff to improve when you have a fresh install?
[04:07] <kiamo> Jack_Sparrow, i installed my ati drivers from the ati site follow !ati instructions, several times now actually
[04:08] <kiamo> Jack_Sparrow,  and I used apt-get install totem-xine to install the xine backend
[04:08] <mwalsh> I followed the directions on installing the nvidia drivers and nothing happened... i still cant get proper resolutions
[04:08] <kiamo> i think that was the cmd anyway, someone here gave it to me :)
[04:08] <joshy> i've installet xen on my system (ubuntu edgy; core2duo); after rebooting with the xen kernel; i get a kernel panic message; does anyone knows what i making wrong?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys, I only have a minute before going to work.  But start by identifying what video cards you are using
[04:09] <mwalsh> nvidia geforece 7950gt
[04:09] <GiL> nvidia geforce 2 Ti
[04:09] <darkdrag0n> ATI Radeon Express 200 integrated
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <mwalsh> thank y ou ubotu
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh are those the instructions you followed?
[04:10] <kiamo> radeon X1600
[04:10] <joshy> !xen
[04:10] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[04:10] <nawty> ok, guys, aptitude purge lilo, aptitude install grub doesn't seem to make grub work, anyone have any ideas on the quickest way to make grub work with lvm on 06.06.01?
[04:10] <GiL> nice bot :)
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh FYI   ubotu is a bot
[04:10] <mwalsh> i know
[04:10] <mwalsh> haha
[04:10] <mwalsh> oops
[04:11] <darkdrag0n> eggdrop?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh are those the instructions you followed?
[04:11] <mwalsh> no
[04:11] <mwalsh> they were different
[04:11] <Pici> darkdrag0n : supybot -  see !bot
[04:11] <darkdrag0n> !bot
[04:11] <tijn> supy? ah
[04:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:11] <kiamo> Jack_Sparrow, before you go, i followed those instructions to manually install my ati drivers from ati.com, but in addremove - system tools it have ATI binary X.Org driver ticked, is that ok, or are there 2 sets of drivers installed?
[04:11] <mwalsh> but they werte a little confusing
[04:12] <tijn> hah infobot :)
[04:12] <mwalsh> its telling me to hit add, but doestn say wat to add in
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh then I would suggest you start with what is accepted as the correct way to install those drivers
[04:12] <tijn> !lart tijn
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart tijn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <christopherl> Is everone here on Gnome?
[04:12] <mwalsh> i know, but these directons are confusing
[04:12] <tijn> aww :(
[04:12] <darkdrag0n> ATI proprietary driver is a pain to install
[04:12] <tijn> nope, iam on booze
[04:12] <mwalsh> because it says click add, but doesnt say wat to add
[04:12] <joshy> christopherl: kde
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> christopher, Kubuntu is for KDE users
[04:12] <joshy> christopherl: kde + beryl
[04:13] <darkdrag0n> ATI recommends that you disable the kernel driver for your ATI card before installing the proprietary drivers
[04:13] <christopherl> the tooltips in Gnome is very annoying and not anybody knows how to turn them off
[04:13] <kiamo> darkdrag0n, what do you mean proprietary drivers?
[04:13] <christopherl> I've asked a lot of people
[04:14] <darkdrag0n> the drivers that ATI distributes, on ATI's website
[04:14] <kiamo> ah ok
[04:14] <Pici> vincenz : sorry about the late reply, some network issues here, dpkg -S will tell you what file is in a package (providing that you have it installed)
[04:14] <kiamo> would i have done it the correct way following the instructions i got from !ati
[04:14] <christopherl> joshy: is it easy to turn the tooltips off in KDE?
[04:14] <kiamo> !ati
[04:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <GiL> !ram
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <GiL> !128Mb
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, can you point me to where it says add and you got confused?
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 128Mb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <GiL> :(
[04:14] <mwalsh> jack are you on the page ubotu sent?
[04:15] <GiL> how to install ubuntu with 128 Mb of RAM? install script freezy on step 3 :(
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, I went to the second page for nvidia referd by the first
[04:15] <kleftisx> hello is there any possible way to re-install GNOME??
[04:15] <mwalsh> right
[04:15] <mwalsh> ok jack
[04:15] <darkdrag0n> it took me 4 tries to install the proprietary drivers correctly
[04:15] <kiamo> hmm
[04:15] <mwalsh> now on the directons number 4....
[04:15] <joshy> christopherl: i don't have tryed
[04:15] <mwalsh> it says edit repositories, then click add
[04:15] <mwalsh> but it deostn say wat to type in
[04:16] <darkdrag0n> was even worse for other linux distrobutions, if that's any consolation
[04:16] <kiamo> darkdrag0n, am I correct in assessing that theres something wrong with my ati drivers?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, you add the line right below that to your file
[04:16] <kleftisx> hello is there any possible way to re-install GNOME??
[04:16] <GiL> anybody, help me. how to install ubuntu with 128 Mb of RAM?
[04:16] <darkdrag0n> if you installed your drivers from the ATI website, then you may have skipped one of the steps
[04:16] <mwalsh> there is no line below that
[04:17] <kiamo> i cant playback dvds with menus etc (if you didnt read earlier on)
[04:17] <kiamo> !ati
[04:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <darkdrag0n> also, check the ATI website to insure that your card is in fact supported by the drivers
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh..  Line to add is..                   Option        "No Logo"
[04:17] <kiamo> it is
[04:17] <kiamo> im sure...
[04:17] <mwalsh> why doesnt it say that on my screen
[04:17] <kiamo> i selected the 1600+ drivers lol
[04:18] <mwalsh> um i dont think thats the correct line jack
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh..  No idea, I just called up that page...    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:18] <scurvyd0g> !<nvidia>
[04:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:18] <mwalsh> well it says add a source
[04:18] <mwalsh> theres no source listed on that page
[04:18] <darkdrag0n> well, if you downloaded the drivers straight from ATI, and you installed them by the instructions verbatim, then i don't understand why it wouldn't work for you
[04:18] <GiL> hmm. anybody can help me?
[04:19] <SoulChild> hey how can i install a i686 optimized kernel ? apt-get?
[04:19] <SoulChild> !i686
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <piiimp> Can someone explain to me how to connect to an unencrypted wireless network via the Ubuntu Networking GUI?
[04:19] <darkdrag0n> every time i need to install the ATI drivers, it's a fight
[04:19] <piiimp> i can only connect if theres encryption, it will not connect if its unencrypted
[04:19] <amicrawler> why is my refresh reight so slow ?
[04:19] <piiimp> am i missing something?
[04:20] <[SilverFox] > anyone able help me get my wifi going it detects it but can't seam to get it to work.
[04:20] <Pici> GiL : you could try the alternateCD
[04:20] <joshy> is it possible to disable the splash screen of beryl?
[04:20] <amicrawler> sliver fox
[04:20] <Pici> !alternate | GiL
[04:20] <ubotu> GiL: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:20] <kiamo> darkdrag0n, maybe i was wrong in thinking theres somethign wrong with the drivers, my problem is that i cannot play back dvds with menus and subtitles etc... and iv tried several different programs and all fail and iv followed seperate isntructions for each program...
[04:20] <amicrawler> you need a dnsrapper
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh..
[04:20] <mwalsh> yessir
[04:20] <Pici> joshy : its one of the plugins, just disable it
[04:20] <Delux_247> a dns rapper?
[04:20] <darkdrag0n> hmm
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh..  Ok  so you are farther up the page..
 i can't get alternate cd. my inet is traffic-pay and high-cost :(
[04:21] <mwalsh> yes
[04:21] <joshy> Pici: which one
[04:21] <mwalsh> i am at the first part
[04:21] <darkdrag0n> that might be more along the lines of a dvd software issue kiamo
[04:21] <piiimp> nobody has this issue?
[04:21] <mwalsh> installation
[04:21] <darkdrag0n> which i am unfamiliar with on linux...
[04:21] <Pici> joshy: its called splash I think
[04:21] <kiamo> gah
[04:21] <amicrawler> is there any resion that my screen is slow?
[04:21] <darkdrag0n> that might be more along the lines of a dvd software issue kiamo
[04:21] <darkdrag0n> which i am unfamiliar with on linux...
[04:21] <kiamo> perhaps...
[04:22] <gu014> !ntfs
[04:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh  Ok, gimme a minute..
[04:22] <kiamo> both mplayer and totem with xine backend restart X when i try to play a dvd
[04:22] <joshy> Pici: thx
[04:22] <amicrawler> kiamo are you using dvd
[04:22] <kiamo> and vlc just closes and gives me  segmentation error on the cmd line
[04:22] <kiamo> amicrawler, what you mean?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh  Ok, so you get to synaptic.. right..
[04:22] <kiamo> im trying legally bought dvds yea...
[04:22] <amicrawler> your having a dvd playback issue?
[04:22] <mwalsh> yes
[04:22] <kiamo> downloaded xvid etc work fine in vlc...
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> When you click on add, what do you see.. sorry I have to ask since I am on an XP machine atm
[04:23] <mwalsh> im on number 4 on teh installation instructionsm
[04:23] <kiamo> yup yup yup
[04:23] <amicrawler> i got dvd to run fine in xine ktotme mplayer etc:
[04:23] <piiimp> can someone help?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[04:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:23] <fong> yay! network manager now working fine
[04:23] <amicrawler> you need some libs to get to work
[04:23] <piiimp> i did ask nobody answered =)
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh  When you click on add, what do you see.. sorry I have to ask since I am on an XP machine atm
[04:24] <amicrawler> kiamo i wil pm u
[04:24] <Pici> piiimp : Why cant you connect to an unencrypted network?
[04:24] <fong> anyone have their hibernate/standby/sleep working?
[04:24] <kiamo> thanks amicrawler
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> piiimp: then everyone is busy or does not know
[04:24] <SoulChild> HEY, is the i686 kernel update only for the genereic kernel???
[04:24] <mwalsh> its just a box, asking for some kind of web address
[04:24] <piiimp> it just wont connect, only if theres encryption and i enter a key
[04:24] <mwalsh> in which the package is stored? i guess.
[04:24] <piiimp> if its unencrypted it just doesnt connect
[04:24] <GiL> why nobody can't help me :(
[04:25] <fong> GiL, coz the help you need costs money
[04:25] <GiL> how much?
[04:25] <fong> shipping, freight, etc etc
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, it just wants to set up the correct repos..
[04:25] <fong> dunno
[04:25] <mwalsh> i get that
[04:25] <mwalsh> but wat do i put in the box?!
[04:25] <paolo> Hi. when I launch xset (in order to blank the screen) sometimes I see an image with the char "X"... how can i remove it?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Gimme a minute.. to reboot into a Ubuntu machine...
[04:26] <GiL> Russian :)
[04:26] <amicrawler> kiamo  you let me know when your ready to chat
[04:27] <kiamo> im good now
[04:27] <ciagin> hi there is there anybody that could help me with a webcam problem
[04:27] <kiamo> i dont know what else to try by myself :)
[04:27] <fong> will the migration to ubuntu be really easy?
[04:27] <mwalsh> ciagin what kind of webcam problem o.O
[04:27] <amicrawler> xine
[04:27] <mwalsh> and fong it depends on what youre looking for
[04:27] <amicrawler> work out of the box
[04:27] <fong> mwalsh, speed, stability
[04:27] <kiamo> mm
[04:27] <mwalsh> it KIND OF works out of the box
[04:27] <ciagin> well after boot it doesnt switch off... always on
[04:27] <mwalsh> yeah its fast
[04:27] <kiamo> i tried tht yesterday, but cant remember what it said
[04:27] <kiamo> hang on
[04:27] <mwalsh> and stable
[04:27] <kiamo> ill install and try again
[04:27] <joshy> has anyone experiences with xen?
[04:28] <piiimp> in the network interface properties, it says KeyType: and WEPKEY: well what if you arent using any keys or encryption
[04:28] <ciagin> i've got an quickcam communicate stx
[04:28] <fong> i dont usually turn my notebook off. on windows, on about 3 days of hibernate/on/hibernate, it starts to get reaaaaalllly slow
[04:28] <piiimp> if u leave it blank and try to connect it wont connect
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh Im back
[04:28] <Pici> piiimp : dont put anything there
[04:28] <mwalsh> got it jack
[04:28] <kiamo> amicrawler, hmm cant install extra plugins because im on an amd64 system...
[04:28] <amicrawler> your going to need libreaddvd
[04:28] <fong> that's why i want to check if the hibernate function is workable/fixable in ubuntu.
[04:28] <fong> !hibernate
[04:29] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[04:29] <joshy> or informations where i can get informations when i have troubles
[04:29] <amicrawler> well then get the i686 ver
[04:29] <piiimp> yet if i add a key to the router, then add a key in the interface properties it WILL connect
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh So you are good to go from here?
[04:29] <kiamo> i cant do that in the addremove
[04:29] <piiimp> but for those times on the road i want to connect to a wideopen router this wont help me
[04:29] <mwalsh> no!
[04:29] <Pici> piiimp : what kind of wifi card do you have?
[04:29] <kiamo> is there an apt-get cmd?
[04:29] <mwalsh> where do i find what to put in the box?
[04:29] <amicrawler> in the shell
[04:29] <fong> kiamo, yes
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, So let me see if I can walk you through this.
[04:30] <amicrawler> in the consol
[04:30] <kiamo> !xine
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <amicrawler> nope
[04:30] <piiimp> its the ubuiquiti
[04:30] <amicrawler> apt-get install xine-ui
[04:30] <kiamo> aaaaaah
[04:30] <darkdrag0n> apt-get xine perhaps?
[04:30] <kiamo> i didnt try with the -ui
[04:30] <kiamo> no, just xine doenst work
[04:30] <darkdrag0n> apt-get install xine
[04:30] <kleftisx> is there any possible way to re-install GNOME??
[04:31] <darkdrag0n> oh
[04:31] <piiimp> but i also tried with my broadcom with ndiswrapper which will also connect fine if i have encryption on
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh you get to the add channel where there is a check box for restricted..
[04:31] <piiimp> but if theres no encryption on the router it will not connect
[04:31] <mwalsh> there is no check box for restricted
[04:31] <piiimp> i think its a problem with the network controls in ubuntu?
[04:31] <joshy> i've installet xen on my system (ubuntu edgy; core2duo); after rebooting with the xen kernel; i get a kernel panic message; does anyone knows what i making wrong?
[04:31] <piiimp> has anybody gotten unencrypted wireless to connect via the network controls in ubuntu?
[04:31] <kiamo> thanks ever so much for helping guys, once i get this problem sorted ill be 50% thorught all the problems im aware of at the moment ;)
[04:31] <mwalsh> jack wat version ubuntu are you running
[04:32] <piiimp> this is frustrating, unencrypted should be EASIER
[04:32] <Pici> piiimp : mine works fine at home
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, Dapper on this machine
[04:32] <Nalleman> I want to change resolution to 1280 800 but cant change from 1024 768
[04:32] <amicrawler> oh
[04:32] <mwalsh> oh
[04:32] <amicrawler> i have edgy
[04:32] <piiimp> Pici: hmmm ok so you just leave the key blank and it does work?
[04:32] <mwalsh> watever jack ill figure it out
[04:32] <Pici> piiimp : yes
[04:32] <mwalsh> the box is layed out differently in 6.10
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh,  settings repositories then add
[04:33] <mwalsh> no its not like that
[04:33] <piiimp> Pici: cause no go for me, it just closes and when i do ifconfig it shows it diddnt get an ip address
[04:33] <piiimp> but if i use keys it will get an ip address
[04:33] <kiamo> :(
[04:33] <darkdrag0n> fresh install, Nalleman?
[04:33] <piiimp> this is frustrating
[04:33] <ciagin> nalleman did u install 915resolution?
[04:33] <pike_> piiimp: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid "networkname"; sudo dhclient ath0     <-- works but gui doesnt?
[04:33] <kiamo> amicrawler, simply opening xine restarted X and stopped my wireless mouse working (lucky i have a second cabled one plugged in which still works)
[04:33] <piiimp> pike_ : havent tried out of gui yet... hold ill try now
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh,  Good Luck..
[04:33] <kiamo> i restarted X again hoping the mouse would work but it still doenst
[04:33] <NET||abuse> has anyone else used ispconfig to setup a web server?
[04:33] <mwalsh> thanks man
[04:34] <mwalsh> oh and 2 quick questions
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:34] <darkdrag0n> could be a hardware conflict, kiamo
[04:34] <kiamo> between what and what@
[04:34] <kiamo> ?
[04:34] <Nalleman> ciagin: nope
[04:34] <darkdrag0n> two mice, perhaps?
[04:34] <amicrawler> a mouse ?
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, synaptic 0.57.8 is what I have here
[04:34] <amicrawler> kiamo what kind of mouse
[04:35] <kiamo> this is the first time its given me problems tho
[04:35] <mwalsh> okely dokely
[04:35] <Nalleman> i should do that right :)
[04:35] <mwalsh> um
[04:35] <piiimp> pike_ : dhclient ath0 - just spitting out DHCPDISCOVER messages...
[04:35] <mwalsh> would you know why when i boot up i get some HAL error
[04:35] <mwalsh> its really annoying
[04:35] <kiamo> ones a ps2 and the others a M$ wireless laser desktop
[04:35] <ciagin> nalleman, i had to install it to do a bios hack so i couls change resolution and insert 1280x800 on my notebook
[04:35] <amicrawler> M$ i could see issues
[04:35] <kiamo> the ps2 one glows pink :D
[04:35] <amicrawler> but not the ps2
[04:35] <kiamo> yea
[04:35] <darkdrag0n> perhaps the xorg.conf file?
[04:35] <pike_> piiimp: is this a generic network name like 'linksys' or 'netgear' ?
[04:35] <kiamo> the ps2 ones working
[04:35] <kiamo> but not the ms
[04:35] <piiimp> pike_: yup its 'default'
[04:36] <amicrawler> the m$ i stay away from  notthing but issues
[04:36] <kiamo> could I have problems in my X.Org fire?
[04:36] <pike_> piiimp: iwlist ath0 scan   <-- does  it show another network of same name nearby?
[04:36] <kiamo> file*
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mwalsh, actually, no.. and I need to run to work... already late...  IT shouldn't be that difficult, I have same nvidia and is fine
[04:36] <darkdrag0n> i believe the mouse should be pointing to /dev/input/mice
[04:36] <ciagin> nalleman,by the way i have an intel grafix chip
[04:36] <gu014_> !ntfs
[04:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:36] <mwalsh> ok jack
[04:36] <mwalsh> thanks a lot man
[04:37] <warlock> how to see how much ram I got in my server?
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I will be in and out, if I get some time I will try to help you through it.
[04:37] <mwalsh> ok
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Later all.
[04:37] <amicrawler> does any body know about draw in screens or video cards
[04:37] <darkdrag0n> brb...gotta restart
[04:37] <Nalleman> ciagin: i does not seem to have that package
[04:37] <pike_> piiimp: ive found sometimes i have to change the channel on router and do iwconfig ath0 essid networkname channel 8   or whatever if its like linksys or something
[04:37] <warlock> how to see how much ram I got in my server?
[04:38] <Nalleman> eg. cant find it in synaptic
[04:38] <piiimp> pike_: mmm ill check on that
[04:38] <kiamo> whats the cmd to config my X.org file?
[04:38] <Pici> warlock : cat /proc/meminfo | grep Total
[04:38] <[SilverFox] > anyone able help me get my wifi going it detects it but can't seam to get it to work. been trying get to work for over 24 hours looks like drivers there but not working unsure whats up
[04:38] <piiimp> pike_: actually im getting a strange error on the 'iwlist ath0 scan'
[04:38] <kiamo> theres an automated script thing right?
[04:38] <piiimp> pike_: ath0 Failed to read scan data: resource temporarily unavailable
[04:39] <SushiP> I've been trying for over three days to get EciAdsl working....
[04:39] <fong> !EciAdsl
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about EciAdsl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <pike_> piiimp: does "sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 up"    fix?
[04:39] <SushiP> Tried already.
[04:39] <warlock> thanks
[04:39] <piiimp> pike_: i know if i open up kismet the card is functional though..
[04:40] <piiimp> pike_: lemme try that now..
[04:40] <pike_> piiimp: might still be in promiscuous
[04:40] <piiimp> pike_: i was wondering if it might be stuck in promisc =)
[04:40] <piiimp> pike_: stopping/restarting could fix that?
[04:40] <fong> in the device manager, i got a couple of items there that are unknown,
[04:40] <fong> what's the next step to getting the correct drivers installed?
[04:40] <pike_> piiimp: should
[04:40] <warlock> Anyone know why a ubuntu 5.10 breezy server lags when I host one 16 slotted counter-strike server on it? 2.6 intel p4, and with 512mb ram - but for some reason it tends to lagg from time to time, got a 200/200mbit fiber connection
[04:41] <ciagin> nalleman; if u search for 915resolution it should be there...
[04:42] <NaPsTeR> is it possible to get a dvd shrink type utility for linux
[04:42] <Nalleman> tried but didn find anything. mayby just got the wrong libraries installed... thanx anyway
[04:42] <ciagin> well, i'm out for now... bey
[04:42] <piiimp> pike_: not working still im gonna reboot in case card is stuck in promisc.  Thanks for the help ill keep messing with it =)
[04:42] <kiamo> ok rebooted and both mice work again lol
[04:43] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[04:43] <Pici> !es | anti_system32
[04:43] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:43] <incorrect> sigh,  shame they don't update the kernel in dapper for installations
[04:44] <Pici> !k9 | NaPsTeR
[04:44] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy; for Dapper it's available in Universe, and for Breezy it's available at this repository: deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[04:46] <jfro> anybody know why twinview is failing me, it doesn't quit or anything, even log says twinview enabled, connected monitors crt,dfp etc. and i just don't get anything on 2nd screen
[04:46] <jfro> only thing that catches my eye is virtual screen size set to 1280x1024
[04:50] <GiL> good night, peoples :) in our city 22.Jan.2007, 21:50 :)
[04:50] <dromer> is there an easy (automatic) way to mount/umount usb-sticks?
[04:50] <vincenz> eject
[04:51] <pawel> #hacking
[04:55] <pike_> dromer: did some google'n for udev links try this maybe: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/06/how-to-always-mount-removable-drives-in-the-same-place-ubuntu-6061-610/
[04:55] <dromer> wow, thnx pike_
[04:58] <dm> Anyone here help me with a NEVERWINTER NIGHTS segmentation fault?
[04:58] <daedra> yhalothar
[05:01] <SoulChild> HEY my Ubuntu boots in only 34 seconds(bootchart)... is this good???
[05:02] <dm> Anyone here help me with a NEVERWINTER NIGHTS segmentation fault?
[05:02] <kolla> SoulChild: nah.. my amiga boots in 7
[05:02] <IdleOne> SoulChild: the quicker the better right
[05:02] <daedra> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <SoulChild> kolla: with x ?
[05:02] <SoulChild> IdleOne, yes ;)
[05:02] <kolla> X? what for? :)
[05:02] <SoulChild> kolla hehe .,.
[05:02] <kolla> never mind me :)
[05:03] <dm> daedra no point in asking if no one knows what im talking about
[05:04] <daedra> ive had a go with neverwinter in linux, but it works better in windows :S
[05:04] <Pici> no harm in asking if no one knows what im talking about
[05:04] <Pici> er, im = your
[05:04] <Pici> you're even
[05:05] <HymnToLife> daedra, I'm running NWN without any problems here
[05:05] <SoulChild> hey... whats the name of a SD MMC Card reader in /dev/
[05:05] <daedra> i wonder if anyones ever got oblivion to run in linux?
[05:05] <dm> daedra well when i run ./nwn, it gives me Fatal Signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:06] <daedra> dm: you could pastebin the relevant out put when you type "dmesg" in console
[05:06] <Pici> dm: have a look through here: http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=347606&forum=72
[05:07] <Torsion> Howdy folks.
[05:07] <Torsion> Total Ubuntu (and Linux) newbie here.
[05:07] <Pobega> Torsion: Hello :)
[05:07] <Torsion> Trying to install TWiki
[05:07] <dm> daedra dmesg put out too much output
[05:08] <Torsion> I fire up localhost
[05:08] <Torsion> I can see Twiki
[05:08] <Torsion> then I click on a Perl script
[05:08] <Torsion> and it just gives me the text of the script
[05:08] <Torsion> it doesn't run it.
[05:08] <Pici> Torsion : do you have perl installed?
[05:08] <dm> daedra ./nwmain: error while loading shared libraries: libmss.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:08] <[SilverFox] > whats default password?
[05:08] <Torsion> Pretty sure.
[05:08] <[SilverFox] > root
[05:09] <HymnToLife> !libmss
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <HymnToLife> !info libmss
[05:09] <ubotu> Package libmss does not exist in any distro I know
[05:09] <Torsion> Pici, I did apt-get install perl
[05:09] <Torsion> it said okay, all-set.
[05:09] <riotkittie> [SilverFox] : there is no default root pass. the root account is locked.
[05:09] <[SilverFox] > uhh
[05:09] <[SilverFox] > how i get ifconfig eth1 up then :P
[05:09] <Pobega> [SilverFox] : Root's password is your password, the first account you registered
[05:09] <daedra> dm: that says a lot actually. It can't find what looks to me like a sound library
[05:09] <riotkittie> [SilverFox] : use sudo.  sudo ifconfig
[05:09] <Pobega> [SilverFox] : Try doing sudo with YOUR password rather than a root password
[05:09] <HymnToLife> dm, libmss should be in your ./miles directory
[05:09] <riotkittie> then enter your pass
[05:10] <HymnToLife> dm, could you please       gedit nwn          and pastebin what you have ?
[05:10] <daedra> dm: so you now know what to look for in the bioware forums
[05:10] <dm> hymnToLife it is, thats the problem
[05:10] <AnkleBiter> help with setting up of a wireless connection
[05:10] <riotkittie> assuming your user account has sudo rights
[05:10] <HymnToLife> the script doesn't find it
[05:10] <dm> !pastebin
[05:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:10] <HymnToLife> should be very simple to fix, just pastebin the script
[05:11] <Pici> Torsion : make sure that you have mod_perl installed
[05:11] <AnkleBiter> help with setting up of a wireless connection
[05:11] <dm> HymnToLife http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2539/
[05:11] <Torsion> AnkleBiter, ask a more specific question and people may answer you.
[05:11] <AnkleBiter> ok sorry (new to irc's)
[05:11] <Torsion> No problem.
[05:12] <Torsion> Anybody else have any ideas about my TWiki/Perl thingy?
[05:12] <AnkleBiter> help with setting up of a wireless connection, router + card working fine, for some reason wont connect, the connection will activate
[05:12] <[SilverFox] > hmm ok i do sudo ifconfig eth1 up and I get some SIOCSIFFLAGS no such file or dir
[05:12] <dm> daedra either im retarded or bioware forums are so indirect that i cant understand it
[05:12] <evian> I finally got nvidia drivers to work with my graphics card by using the "envy" script, but I noticed my waiting icon doesn't spin anymore. Not a big deal, but what's up with that?
[05:12] <icheyne> !wireless|anklebiter
[05:12] <ubotu> anklebiter: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <HymnToLife> dm, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2540/ <= here's mine. As you can see, I've put the full path to the dirs on line 10, try to do it this way
[05:13] <AnkleBiter> ok thanks a lot guys
[05:13] <HymnToLife> dm,also don't forget the colon between the path, which is missing on yours
[05:13] <kleftisx> is there any possible way to re-install GNOME??
[05:13] <dromer> pike_: I'm not sure if this is what I'm looking for, I want to automount/umount different kinds of usb-drives, this guide you gave is more for automatically mounting the same defice over and over (or is it me?)
[05:14] <daedra> dm: I can't help you too much since I've never installed nwn on linux
[05:14] <dm> HymnToLive hold on lemme try that
[05:14] <dromer> Isn't there some kind of script that detects the newly attached usb-drive and mounts it? or umounts if it's detached?
[05:14] <aborg> hi someone help me, when i do apt-get install xchat it says E: Couldn't find package xchat, ubuntu 6.10
[05:14] <HymnToLife> !info xchat
[05:14] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[05:14] <HymnToLife> !universe | aborg
[05:14] <ubotu> aborg: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:15] <dm> HymnToLife Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:15] <dm> ./nwn: line 14:  9302 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) ./nwmain $@
[05:15] <daedra> dromer: umounting if detatched could be dangerous, it's best to eject the device first to ensure no data is lost
[05:15] <HymnToLife> aborg, you need to enable the Universe repo, the link ubotu gave you will help you do it
[05:15] <HymnToLife> dm, pastebin your modified script ?
[05:15] <dromer> daedra: but isn't there some other (easier) way to do this than to go into the commandline to mount/umount every time?
[05:16] <dm> HymnToLife http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:16] <aborg> ok let me see
[05:16] <dm> Hymntolife woops
[05:16] <dromer> daedra: I have a public htpc in the kitchen where my housemates alot of times want to attach their usb-stick to put music or movies on it
[05:16] <daedra> dromer: I think ubuntu 5.10 up automounts anyway, at least in GNOME and Kubuntu
[05:16] <dm> HymnToLife http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2541/
[05:17] <daedra> I see...
[05:17] <riotkittie> yeah, gnome's automounted everything i've connected
[05:17] <HymnToLife> it seems that UBuntu doesn't like the libsdl that was shipped with nwn
[05:17] <dromer> daedra: hm, apperantly not, or is that on startup?
[05:17] <HymnToLife> dm, just install the standard UBuntu one, and tell nwn to use that one instead
[05:17] <dm> HymnToLife uh, how would i do so?
[05:18] <daedra> dromer: nope, not just @ startup,  any time
[05:18] <daedra> dromer: but the problem arises from the htpc
[05:18] <HymnToLife> dm, sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-debian-all
[05:18] <dromer> daedra: hmm, maybe it's because it's a minimal edgy server install with kde added later ..
[05:19] <daedra> !automount
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <dromer> daedra: but my own dapper doesnt auto mount either
[05:19] <dm> HymnToLife got that one, without a - between 1.2debian, and where do i point the script?
[05:19] <HymnToLife> dm, then modify your script like this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2542/
[05:19] <daedra> dromer: I can vouch that a default dapper install automounts, for me at least
[05:20] <kexman> hello
[05:20] <dromer> daedra: hmmm, it does work on my camera though, but not with my new usb-stick ..
[05:20] <dm> Hymntolife this is becoming really frustrating.
[05:20] <dm> HymnToLife ./nwn: line 14:  9435 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) /usr/local/games/nwn/nwmain $@
[05:20] <kexman> what is the root pass at the first installation at the ubuntu 6.10 alternate i386.iso install ?
[05:20] <AnkleBiter> ok sorry to bother you guys again but none of that really helps. is there a tool that connects you to a network or should it find it automatically? if it helps at all im runnung the router hard wired to a windows pc and trying to wireless an ubuntu pc
[05:21] <HymnToLife> dm, can't help you further, I'm afraid
[05:21] <dm> HymnToLife, no one can, the forums are of no use to me, something is seriously borked..
[05:21] <daedra> AnkleBiter: dhclient works a treat _most_ of the time
[05:21] <[SilverFox] > hey doing sudo ifconfig eth0 down and up eth = wireless syslog says this = ADDCONF (NETDEV_UP_: eth0 link is not ready
[05:21] <AnkleBiter> lol ok ill hase a look
[05:22] <dm> HymnToLife guess ill try to install it with WINE lol, ridiculous.
[05:22] <Pici> [SilverFox]  : is eth0 your wireless device?
[05:22] <[SilverFox] > yes
[05:22] <[SilverFox] > it shows up in wconfig
[05:22] <paule> hi
[05:22] <[SilverFox] > iw*
[05:22] <daedra> AnkleBiter: BUT you need to config your Key etc
[05:22] <kexman> should i use LTS or not ?
[05:22] <kexman> what is it good for ?
[05:23] <daedra> kexman: it will remain updated for about 5 years right?
[05:23] <jimfear> hi, i'm having some trouble with ubuntu... i just installed 6.10 and when it said that there were 98 new updates, so i try to update and it freezes... i rebooted and tried again a few times and it did exactly the same, can anyone help me?
[05:23] <dm> HymnToLife someone said to chown the dir to me.
[05:23] <HymnToLife> daedra, not really, it will only have security updates
[05:23] <HymnToLife> dm, that could work indeed, try it
[05:23] <AnkleBiter> well i have a friend who is very in the know regards ubuntu and he things everythings fine but he reckons hes missing something like a program that connects you to the router
[05:24] <kexman> so i should probably use lts right ?!
[05:24] <AnkleBiter> you may know him, Lattyware :P
[05:24] <kexman> do i need to pay for it !?
[05:24] <dm> HymnToLife so chown dm /usr/local/games/nwn?
[05:24] <HymnToLife> dm, how did you install it, by the way ?
[05:24] <daedra> !lts
[05:24] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:24] <daedra> ahhh
[05:24] <HymnToLife> dm, sudo chown -R dm /usr/local/games/nwn
[05:24] <dm> HymnToLife with an installer  from... http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/
[05:24] <HymnToLife> oh right, I don't know what that one does
[05:25] <HymnToLife> I've installed mine manually
[05:25] <paule> I have some problems with amarok. How can i change to utf-8 encoding?
[05:25] <kexman> okay okay but what is it with all that support blah blah !?
[05:25] <iturk> hi there friends i need to reinstall the fonts and to count them after i have a problem when lauching some applications and in the foruns they tell do to that! how can i reinstall the fonts?
[05:25] <kexman> i dont get it !!!!!!!!!!
[05:25] <dm> HymnToLife how did you install it?
[05:25] <HymnToLife> dm, http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html
[05:25] <daedra> lolz
[05:25] <tom_> Hi All
[05:26] <Tmi-> Anybody know a good editor to use for making latex-document?
[05:27] <tom_> !iso
[05:27] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:27] <[SilverFox] > ahh my mistake did ifconfig eth1 down and up i get this error (firmware_helper[20820] : Main error loading 'lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx')       (only info i know is what says on the wifi card on the laptop dell truemobile dw1450
[05:29] <AnkleBiter> lol (this is getting pathetic!!!) where can i download dhclient?
[05:31] <piiimp> does ubuntu support WPA encryption ?
[05:31] <HymnToLife> !wpa | piiimp
[05:31] <ubotu> piiimp: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:31] <AnkleBiter> yes...i think
[05:31] <Pici> [SilverFox]  : Take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[05:32] <AnkleBiter> where can i download dhclient?
[05:32] <Pici> AnkleBiter : its in the dhcp3-client package
[05:32] <AnkleBiter> ok thanks
[05:33] <christopherl> I want my login window to be the same as my theme, but it uses the original ubuntu theme
[05:33] <[SilverFox] > ahh my mistake did ifconfig eth1 down and up i get this error (firmware_helper[20820] : Main error loading 'lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx')       (only info i know is what says on the wifi card on the laptop dell truemobile dw1450
[05:33] <pbureau> silverfox, try typing iwconfig
[05:34] <piiimp> mmm from a quick read, WPA is an addon that has to be configured and not part of standard network configs...
[05:34] <[SilverFox] > lmao whats that going do i did zillion tmes :(
[05:34] <Pici> christopherl : look in the Login Window application, it should be under system or settings
[05:35] <christopherl> Pici: and then?
[05:35] <pbureau> piiimp yep... supplicant or xsupplicant is needed
[05:35] <Lynoure> piiimp: you can easily use wpa on ubuntu, e.g. with networkmanager
[05:35] <piiimp> ya i just read about the supplicant app
[05:35] <Pici> [SilverFox]  : I dont beleive your card is supported out of the box, you need to install ndiswrapper and configure it, look at the link I pasted earlier
[05:35] <pbureau> Lynourne, really? been working on it for 4 days now without success.
[05:36] <Lynoure> pbureau: I've been using mine about 8 months now
[05:36] <Pici> christopherl : The login manager has its own themes, they do not necessarily coorispond to your metacity themes
[05:36] <piiimp> lynoure: using the built in networkmanager doesnt have any WPA settings =P
[05:36] <pbureau> card works, sees networkbut only capalable of config for WPE, and I have installed supplicant... but alas nothing works
[05:36] <Lynoure> piiimp: weird, it did in dapper...
[05:36] <trojanek> I have installed the Ubuntu Desktop(with GNOME), and then separately install Xfce(not Xubuntu). Whenever I insert a CD while in Xfce the background changes to that of GNOME and the root window acts like in GNOME(Nautilus).
[05:36] <trojanek> How can I change it so nothing happens when I insert a CD?
[05:36] <piiimp> Lynoure: it only shows WEP info.  im assumign you are talking about the System-Admin-Network control?
[05:37] <Lynoure> pbureau: are you sure you are talking about networkmanager, not e.g. about wifimanager?
[05:37] <piiimp> Lynoure: im using dapper
[05:37] <Arrick> Seveas, you around this fine morning?
[05:37] <Lynoure> piiimp: no, I'm talking about networkmanager software, the package.
[05:37] <pbureau> lyourne yep but I asm using 6.10
[05:37] <Seveas> Arrick, it's almot vening :)
[05:37] <piiimp> Lynoure: oh ok sorry i misunderstood.
[05:37] <Torsion> Hey everyone.
[05:37] <Torsion> Newbie here.
[05:37] <Seveas> and my spelling is bad ;)
[05:37] <Torsion> As I understand, this is a common problem, but...
[05:37] <Lynoure> piiimp: oops, network-manager :)
[05:38] <Torsion> when using CPAN to install stuff,
[05:38] <Torsion> make fails.
[05:38] <pbureau> lyourne and that is a package from debian or ubuntu package ?
[05:38] <Seveas> Torsion, almost all from cpan is in the ubuntu archives as well. Don't use CPAN.
[05:38] <christopherl> anyone know where to get contact with Ubuntu developers?
[05:38] <Torsion> I already did apt-get install build-essential
[05:38] <Torsion> Oh, okay ...
[05:38] <Seveas> christopherl, depends on what you need them for
[05:38] <Lynoure> pbureau: and network-manager-gnome?
[05:38] <piiimp> Lynoure: mmm it says its good for laptops switching between wireless networks, ill check it out if it makes my life easier. ty
[05:38] <Lynoure> pbureau: If so, what are your symptoms?
[05:39] <trojanek> How do I make absolutely nothing happen when I insert a CD? I just want it detected, but nothing to pop up or anything like that.
[05:39] <joshy> i've installet xen on my system (ubuntu edgy; core2duo); after rebooting with the xen kernel; i get a kernel panic message; does anyone knows what i making wrong?
[05:39] <Dell-Net> hi how can i find sled menu to ubuntu edge ?
[05:39] <Seveas> Torsion, cpan packages are names like foo::bar, the ubuntu package name is libfoo-bar-perl
[05:39] <Dell-Net> hi how can i find sled menu to ubuntu edge ?
[05:39] <Seveas> Torsion, get the idea? :)
[05:39] <Seveas> !slab
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Seveas> !uslab
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uslab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Pici> hm
[05:39] <HymnToLife> joshy, what's a "xen kernel" ?
[05:39] <Seveas> meh, Dell-Net google for uslab
[05:39] <christopherl> Seveas: found several bugs, I want to tell
[05:39] <pbureau> lyourne : I am not sure which apps yourt talking about now...
[05:39] <joshy> HymnToLife: xen is a virtualisierungs prog
[05:39] <Seveas> !bugs | christopherl
[05:39] <ubotu> christopherl: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:40] <Torsion> Seveas,
[05:40] <Torsion> thanks,
[05:40] <Tox> how to browsw network in ubuntu/kubuntu ? using GUI
[05:40] <Torsion> I'll give it a try.
[05:40] <Lynoure> pbureau: network-manager-gnome. I'm assuming you to be a Gnome user... (ubuntu instead of kubuntu)
[05:40] <Seveas> Tox, places -> network servers
[05:40] <Tox> ok tnx
[05:41] <Torsion> Seveas, so something like CGI::Session
[05:41] <Torsion> would be?
[05:41] <piiimp> Lynoure: unfortunately network-manager doesnt find any network devices for some reason ehehe
[05:41] <Seveas> libcgi-session-perl
[05:41] <Seveas> ubotu, libcgi-session-perl
[05:41] <ubotu> libcgi-session-perl: Persistent session data in CGI applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14-1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 356 kB
[05:41] <piiimp> lynoure: oh well ill just do it the old way =)
[05:41] <jmblack> I want to disable autorun of totem when a dvd is inserted. Ive tried to use gconf-editor thinking that was the 'right place' to fix this but no effect
[05:41] <rafalito> ola
[05:41] <Lynoure> piiimp: it tends to require commenting out stuff from interfaces
[05:41] <Dell-Net> oki
[05:42] <Torsion> apt-get install libcgi-session-perl?
[05:42] <piiimp> lynoure: commenting out where?
[05:42] <Torsion> No dice.
[05:42] <trojanek> How do I make absolutely nothing happen when I insert a CD? I just want it detected, but nothing to pop up or anything like that.
[05:42] <Seveas> Torsion, did you enable universe?
[05:42] <Lynoure> piiimp: (from /etc/network/interfaces , commenting out all except loopback )
[05:42] <Seveas> !universe | Torsion
[05:42] <ubotu> Torsion: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:42] <piiimp> Lynoure: mm ok
[05:43] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me how to blow away a partition that has Ubuntu on it so I can start fresh with a new install instead of an upgrade?
[05:43] <HymnToLife> wheels3572, just install your new Ubuntu over the old one
[05:44] <Pici> wheels3572 : it should ask you if you want to reformat or not
[05:44] <wheels3572> HymnToLife, I would but Im having problems as it is and I just wanna start fresh
[05:44] <wheels3572> Pici, I thougth so but i put it in and it's asking me to upgrade only or start Synaptic
[05:44] <HymnToLife> wheels3572, if you don't forget to format the partitiojn before, it will give you a freshnew install
[05:45] <HymnToLife> wheels3572, you obviously need to bot from the CD
[05:45] <HymnToLife> not insert it while UBuntu is running
[05:45] <HymnToLife> boot*
[05:45] <Lynoure> piiimp: If you want to go back to something else, you can always uncomment.
[05:45] <trojanek> In Xfce my root window is that of GNOME, how do I change that?
[05:45] <wheels3572> HymnToLife, I did but for some reason it wont do it.  Not sure why.  I keep getting Buffer I/O Errors
[05:46] <IdleOne> !aol
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <Arrick> Seveas, can I pm?
[05:46] <Pici> aol?1
[05:46] <humbolto> network manager stopped working in edgy for no reason!
[05:47] <humbolto> what could I try to do?
[05:47] <IdleOne> Pici: was a test
[05:47] <humbolto> it seems it tries the network key for a second and then stops and tries without key
[05:47] <humbolto> the key is still in the keyring
[05:48] <pbureau> Lynoure:  okay about "network-manager-gnome" is that  in the synaptic database ?  (yes I a a gnome user)
[05:48] <ardya> hi folks
[05:48] <ardya> does xubuntu use the same packages as ubuntu?
[05:48] <stardustdk> In Edgy i have tried several HOWTOs to share printer in Samba, nothing worked..  I am not even allowed to "Share printers" in Global Settings- help please
[05:48] <HymnToLife> ardya, yes
[05:48] <Pici> ardya : yes
[05:48] <ardya> damn
[05:48] <SushiP> The only difference is inter
[05:48] <SushiP> *interface.
[05:48] <rashid_> what media player will play these video and audio files --> .dat .mpg .avi .mp3 .rm
[05:49] <Pici> ardya : thats a bad thing?
[05:49] <ardya> guess, I'll have to try something else
[05:49] <aza> please a brazlian ubuntu chat
[05:49] <ademan> !mp3
[05:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <SushiP> That's one of the most commonly asked questions rashid_ on the faq page.
[05:49] <HymnToLife> any player will, though I haven't heard about .dat video files
[05:49] <Lynoure> pbureau: yes, I think it is
[05:49] <HymnToLife> !br | aza
[05:49] <ubotu> aza: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:49] <ardya> Pici: it is when basic X functionality doesnt work
[05:49] <aza> ok
[05:50] <Torsion> Seveas,
[05:50] <ademan> *.dat usually just means "proprietary binary information" meaning nothing other than the original program may be able to play it
[05:50] <Torsion> if a CPAN module is listed as without a ::,
[05:50] <Torsion> then what?
[05:50] <ademan> is there a compatibility list for USB tv tuners?
[05:50] <HymnToLife> !hardware | ademan
[05:50] <ubotu> ademan: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:50] <Torsion> E.g. perl -MCPAN -e 'install FreezeThaw'
[05:51] <ardya> search cpan web site
[05:51] <Pici> Torsion : libfreezethaw-perl
[05:51] <Lynoure> pbureau: I'll have to go now for an hour or so. If you cannot get it to see the devices, check http://tinyurl.com/ts8md for a common solution
[05:51] <rashid_> HymnToLife, in Ubuntu 6.10 there is  a movie player and a rhythmobox player but they both not playing the files, movie player saying codec needs to be install
[05:51] <Lynoure> !ops
[05:51] <Pici> !ops
[05:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:52] <sascha_> Hello
[05:52] <Torsion> Sweet.
[05:52] <Torsion> Okay then.
[05:52] <ademan> thanks HymnToLife
[05:52] <HymnToLife> rashid_, install them, then
[05:52] <Torsion> So I'm trying to get this TWiki up
[05:52] <HymnToLife> !codecs
[05:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:52] <Torsion> I fire up localhost,
[05:52] <mindframe> can someone help me figure out why lilo will not show the boot menu?  ive got install=menu and delay=20 set, lilo recognizes both the linux image and the windows partition.
[05:52] <Torsion> click on Twiki,
[05:52] <Pici> Torsion : btw, I did: apt-cache search thaw    to get that information
[05:52] <Torsion> thanks pici.
[05:53] <jmblack> I want to disable autorun of totem when a dvd is inserted. Can someone point me to a HOWTO or similar to accomplish this?
[05:53] <Torsion> it's just displaying the perl script in text, not running it.
[05:53] <Torsion> Any ideas?
[05:53] <[SilverFox] > woot wifi works
[05:53] <[SilverFox] > im turned on
[05:53] <[SilverFox] > now where can I find gnome-network-manager
[05:53] <[SilverFox] > whats the command install it
[05:54] <nukeDev> Hello all, , , , again :D
[05:55] <DrPhil_Guth> Hello
[05:55] <DrPhil_Guth> where can I ask some questions on GAIM?
[05:55] <nukeDev> on the GAIM channel
[05:55] <nukeDev> or hear
[05:55] <wims> you could try here
[05:55] <wims> or at #gaim
[05:55] <wims> obviously
[05:55] <Pici> Torsion : try adding      AddHandler   cgi-script .cgi .pl  in your apache conf file
[05:55] <DrPhil_Guth> ok, thanks
[05:55] <DrPhil_Guth> ill have a look there
[05:56] <Pici> Torsion : http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/addcgitoapache.shtml
[05:56] <Pici> Torsion : scroll to number 2, it should be the same in Linux (i think)
[05:56] <Torsion> Thanks Pici, I'll have a look.
[05:57] <mein_traum> http://mibssam.free.fr/
[05:58] <Pici> Torsion : although if you are running apache2, the conf file is apache2.conf not httpd.conf
[05:58] <Torsion> Right,
[05:59] <Torsion> any idea where they hide that .conf file?
[05:59] <Pici> Torsion : /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:03] <HeyJude> morning all
[06:03] <j3g> is there a proper way to install tomcat 5.5 on a ubuntu LTS (6.06) server? other than installing it from source? is there any kinds of backports that would add it?
[06:03] <HeyJude> im on my ubuntu desktop and trying to copy a file to another folder but no permission.
[06:04] <HeyJude> i dont want to have to do my copy paste in terminal
[06:04] <HeyJude> how can i sudo su on the desktop
[06:05] <nukeDev> what is the best cd/dvd burning application?
[06:05] <nukeDev> for ubuntu
[06:05] <Crescendo> What is it exactly that "Microsoft Exchange Server" does that I can't do with Linux?
[06:05] <IdleOne> !best'
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about best' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <IdleOne> !best
[06:06] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:06] <[SilverFox] > how secure is ubuntu.. I mean without the root but it has root kind of. If u get what i mean like my main login jeff and then pass is the same pass as sudo is that bad or secure? or should the user jeff be treated as root and I should create new one surf web and chat on irc and such?
[06:06] <IdleOne> nukeDev: gnomebaker, k3b and a lot of others. try them out and see what is best for you
[06:06] <nukeDev> idleone: what do you use?
[06:07] <IdleOne> I prefer gnomebaker
[06:08] <odnigmann> hi.. someone can help-me in wi-fi?
[06:08] <tag> I've been unable to use rdesktop for some time
[06:08] <tag> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request:  78 (X_CreateColormap)
[06:08] <facugaich> !justasj | odnigmann
[06:08] <facugaich> !justask | odnigmann
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justasj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <ubotu> odnigmann: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:08] <odnigmann> ok.. :)
[06:08] <tag> What is causing this and how can I fix it?
[06:09] <HeyJude> i sudo su in terminal but that doesnt get me root priveledges on the desktop
[06:09] <nukeDev> silverfox: Ubuntu is very secure, it is impossible to do a task that will affect the running of you computer system without the roots password this is unlike most other distributions, it is even more secure if you have two users the root and your eveyday username therefore if a hacker gets you normal everyday user name they still cant majorly affect your system.
[06:09] <odnigmann> someone know airodump?
[06:09] <HeyJude> its sad i cant figure out how to copy/paste an icon to my icons folder
[06:09] <HeyJude> no permission
[06:10] <tag> this is totally going to piss me off
[06:10] <IdleOne> how do I create a dir in term?
[06:10] <icheyne> nukeDev, I like Graveman
[06:10] <HeyJude> mkdir
[06:10] <icheyne> mdir
[06:10] <icheyne> mkdir
[06:11] <IdleOne> HeyJude: can the dir have a # in the name?
[06:11] <roler> how do I adjust the brightness/contrast of my xorg server?
[06:11] <HeyJude> of course!
[06:11] <nukeDev> heyjude: you have to actually copy through the terminal, when you type sudo su that means you only have the rights for that line of terminal commands not all of them form there on.
[06:11] <tag> roler: you don't that's up to your screen
[06:12] <odnigmann> i need a program for search networks wi-fi
[06:12] <tag> anyway how the fuck do I fix this?
[06:12] <HymnToLife> IdleOne, yes but it need to be escaped, like this :   mkdir \#
[06:12] <odnigmann> someone know?
[06:12] <nukeDev> yeh
[06:12] <nukeDev> 1sec
[06:12] <IdleOne> HymnToLife: ty
[06:12] <HymnToLife> !language  tag
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language  tag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <HymnToLife> !language | tag
[06:12] <ubotu> tag: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:12] <pbureau> I have downloaded supplicant + xsuplicant from the synaptic downloads, I have the network-manager-gnome running, but I dont see options for WPA only settings for WEP, how to I get both these to work together ?
[06:13] <pbureau> odnigmann:  look in synaptic downloader for wifi, you will find a few
[06:13] <HeyJude> isnt there another way to temporarily get su from the desktop
[06:13] <HeyJude> copy paste with mouse and gui should be possilbe
[06:13] <HeyJude> heh :)
[06:13] <nukeDev> kismet
[06:14] <nukeDev> odnigmann: the program you want it KISMET
[06:14] <nukeDev> !kismet
[06:14] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[06:14] <odnigmann> i have kismet and i try to use him and airodump
[06:15] <nukeDev> HeyJude: err NO, sorry
[06:15] <HymnToLife> HeyJude, there is, but I won't tell you because it's a_very_ bad idea
[06:15] <HeyJude> i appreciate your frankness
[06:15] <nukeDev> HeyJude: this would be a security risk so there would be no point
[06:15] <pbureau> I have downloaded supplicant + xsuplicant from the synaptic downloads, I have the network-manager-gnome running, but I dont see options for WPA only settings for WEP, how to I get both these to work together ?
[06:15] <roler> ok...
[06:15] <xxenon> hello
[06:15] <HeyJude> and i realize xp/2k, etc was always bad for leaving you logged in as admin all the time
[06:16] <nukeDev> hello
[06:16] <nukeDev> HeyJude: very true, another good reason to use Ubuntu
[06:16] <jaminkle> hey for some reason i can't change my resolution.. its on 1680x1050
[06:16] <xxenon> is there an easy way to install nvidia drivers 97.46 on Edgy ? any guide ?
[06:17] <Torsion> Thanks everyone,
[06:17] <Torsion> see you later.
[06:17] <odnigmann> pbureau .. my network-manager dont show networks.. just wired network
[06:17] <[SilverFox] > !ati
[06:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <xxenon> !nvidia
[06:17] <HymnToLife> !fixres | jaminkle
[06:17] <ubotu> jaminkle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:17] <HeyJude> im loving ubuntu but i love gui too!
[06:17] <tag> god
[06:17] <pbureau> odnigmann:  left mouse click on the icon, you can select wifi stuff
[06:17] <arsenip> anyone point me to what i need to do to get hold of eclipse / jdk etc through synaptic? it was available on my xubuntu install, cant seem to find it with ubuntu install
[06:17] <nukeDev> xxenon: use Apt-Get
[06:17] <jaminkle> ty HymnToLife
[06:17] <tag> Has anyone had trouble with xinerama and rdesktop?
[06:17] <odnigmann> pbureau dont have
[06:18] <nukeDev> !eclipse
[06:18] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[06:18] <xxenon> nukeDev - I don't think 97.46 are in Edgy
[06:18] <tag> !rdesktop
[06:18] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[06:18] <odnigmann> pbureau just enable network and connection info
[06:18] <HymnToLife> HeyJude, having e.g. Nautilus running as root is a bad idea because just one mistake in a drag-and-drop can result in complete system breakdown
[06:18] <odnigmann> pbureau and about
[06:18] <ircusr> hi all
[06:19] <AndErsArTiG> hello
[06:19] <HymnToLife> Windows works this around by adding extra protection on system files, Linux doesn't
[06:19] <pbureau> odnigmann:  and you downloaded in synaptic the network-manager-gnome package ?
[06:19] <HymnToLife> when you tell it to do something, it assumes you know whar you are doing and does just what you tell it to do
[06:19] <nukeDev> xxenon - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[06:19] <AndErsArTiG> i've a digital-camera, but i can only access it with the root account, with normal accounts i don't have the rights ... how i can change it ?
[06:19] <HeyJude> which is good!
[06:20] <nukeDev> you have to change the permissions, but not sure sorry
[06:20] <HymnToLife> but can be dangerous it you do something by mistake
[06:20] <arsenip> how do i find out what version of ubuntu im currently running (not sure what i was given on a cd)
[06:20] <AndErsArTiG> nukeDev, i know, but which one
[06:20] <arsenip> and therefore, how do i upgrade everything to the latest testing?;/
[06:21] <Astaroth_> omg i'm having like big problems
[06:21] <[SilverFox] > I'm FINALY A NONE WINDOWS USER!!! now ho do i play WoW lol
[06:21] <Astaroth_> [SilverFox] : stop taking drugs, stop playing world of warcraft.
[06:21] <jharr> I can't use admin or root, and administrator is too long to type... Any suggestions?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> !root | jharr
[06:21] <ubotu> jharr: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:21] <HeyJude> i understand the difference between "sudo su" and "sudo" so i wish i could sudo my copypaste at least
[06:21] <[SilverFox] > Astaroth_ but but but
[06:21] <Astaroth_> :p
[06:22] <jharr> HymnToLife: I know. I want suggestions for aliases to use.
[06:22] <HymnToLife> HeyJude, sudo cp /path/to/source /path/to/dest
[06:22] <jharr> HymnToLife: I'm doing a new install of edgy, and it won't let me use admin for the local admin user, like I always have.
[06:22] <Astaroth_> i cant install any more programs
[06:22] <HymnToLife> the "local admin user" ? what the heck is that ?
[06:22] <HymnToLife> you mean root ?
[06:23] <HymnToLife> it is disabled by default in Ubuntu, read the link ubotu gave you
[06:23] <jharr> HymnToLife: err (been working on windows domains too much), I mean the first user that gets added to the system.
[06:23] <jharr> HymnToLife: with admin rights.
[06:23] <Astaroth_> my system update didnt work properly and i had the problem that i couldnt update wpasupplicant. now i wanted to remove it
[06:23] <odnigmann> pbureau
[06:23] <HeyJude> dont take this as me complaining ( im loving ubuntu), but i thought i left the commandprompt/terminal behind when win3.11 came out!
[06:23] <HymnToLife> jharr, why won't it let you use it ?
[06:23] <jharr> HymnToLife: because the installer won't let me use the user name 'admin'
[06:23] <HymnToLife> HeyJude, you were wrong :)
[06:23] <jharr> HymnToLife: it bails out.
[06:24] <Astaroth_> but that didnt work either. now every time i want to install a package, it first wants to remove wpasupplicant and breaks then
[06:24] <jaminkle> that command just killed x its not starting up again
[06:24] <HymnToLife> jharr, that's normal, choose another one
[06:24] <jaminkle> all i have now is a blinking _
[06:24] <daedra> *say FLUX if you're using fluxbox :D*
[06:24] <HymnToLife> HeyJude, trust me, when you'll get used to the command line, you'll see GUI for copy and paste as totally useless
[06:25] <HymnToLife> not to mention a total waste of time
[06:25] <Chest> why is there no firefox 2 for dapper?
[06:26] <odnigmann> why i just receive a to small number of the IVs.. in airodump-ng?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> Chest, because the developpers said so
[06:26] <jaminkle> maybe i should have got 6.06 insted of 6.10
[06:26] <HymnToLife> !firefox | Chest
[06:26] <ubotu> Chest: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:26] <Chest> why they'd say no though?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> you can install it yourself, though, see the link ubotu gave you
[06:26] <daedra> I think something like firefox-1.5.0.7 is latest
[06:26] <arsenip> does gksu "update-manager -c" automatically change the sources.list to edgy over dapper? (on an edgy upgrade)
[06:26] <HymnToLife> because FF 1.5 was the one when Dapper was released
[06:26] <kbrosnan> Chest: because there are many programs that depend on having firefox 1.5, and the changes to firefox 2 was considered to major
[06:26] <Chest> ah
[06:27] <HymnToLife> and upgrading it is against the release policy
[06:27] <Chest> so wysiswg with an ubuntu release?
[06:27] <daedra> there must be a way though
[06:27] <glatzor> arsenip: if you choose to upgrade: yes
[06:27] <Chest> no upgrading software to major versions
[06:27] <Chest> ?
[06:27] <pbureau> I have downloaded supplicant + xsuplicant from the synaptic downloads, I have the network-manager-gnome running, but I dont see options for WPA only settings for WEP, how to I get both these to work together ?
[06:27] <HymnToLife> Chest, nope, just security updates
[06:27] <LjL> Chest, too many thing depends on firefox and gecko, and i'm afraid the backports team doesn't feel comfortable backporting firefox 2 to dapper
[06:28] <Cerber87> join #sdz
[06:28] <jhaig> I'm playing around with wifi (or at least, trying to).  Some time ago I installed wifi-radar and found various connections (which I didn't connect to).  At some point this appears to have broken and now I cannot get any connections, and "sudo iwlist scan" returns "No scan results" for eth1.  Where can I check to see what might have broken?
[06:28] <daedra> i see
[06:28] <jhaig> I know there is at least one wifi point around here.
[06:28] <rellik> I have an NVidia GeForce 5600.. should I get the drivers off the nvidia website or use one of the apt packages?
[06:29] <another> what's the name of the executable of the printer configuration tool? I'd like to start it, but I'm not in GNOME currently.
[06:29] <HymnToLife> rellik, both will work, using the Ubuntu packages is recommended if you're new
[06:29] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | rellik
[06:29] <ubotu> rellik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:29] <instabin> rellik: i use the ones from the repository for all of my nvidia cards
[06:29] <daedra> hey how do you scroll up a page in tmsnc?
[06:29] <daedra> !tmsnc
[06:29] <ubotu> tmsnc: textbased (console) MSN client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 156 kB
[06:29] <Chest> rellik: i use the repos.  works like a charm
[06:29] <LjL> rellik: unless you have a specific reason to use the ones from the nvidia site, i strongly recommend you just get the ones from the repositories
[06:29] <daedra> its not mentioned in the man page
[06:29] <instabin> rellik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[06:30] <pbureau> jhaig:  did you check iwconfig to make sure you wifi is reconized/working ?
[06:30] <odnigmann> someone know why i dont have wdiswrapper mod graphic.. just console?
[06:30] <pbureau> odnigmann:  did you dowwload in synpatic the wdiswrapper graphical interface ?
[06:31] <jhaig> pbureau: No.  Running it now says "radio off" (among other things).  That could be a reason.
[06:31] <odnigmann> pbureau synpatic?
[06:31] <pbureau> jhaig:  yep if radio disable you will not see anything, right click on network and enable it
[06:31] <jhaig> pbureau: I'm feeling my way a bit with this.
[06:31] <pbureau> odnigmann: system - administration - synaptic package manager do a search
[06:32] <jhaig> pbureau: I right clicked on the panel icon and "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" are both checked.  There is no other option.
[06:32] <AndErsArTiG> nobody can help me why i cannot use my digicam as user, only as root ? (Could not claim interface 0 (Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[06:33] <odnigmann> pbureau in right click in my network-manager-gnome.. dont show enable wireless..
[06:33] <evilgold_> hey could someone help me how to watch TV in ubuntu, assuming my card is already setup correctly
[06:34] <jhaig> pbureau: Now I unchecked and checked "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" had disappeared.  :-(
[06:34] <pbureau> ...
[06:34] <pbureau> humm
[06:34] <jhaig> pbureau: It is back.
[06:34] <jhaig> pbureau: Anyway, iwconfig still says "radio off"
[06:35] <pbureau> jhaig:  humm ..  is this a desktop/laptop?
[06:35] <jhaig> pbureau: In /var/log/messages there is a line (at bootup, I think) "eth1: Link is not ready"
[06:35] <jhaig> laptop
[06:36] <pbureau> jhaig: does you wifi icon on (on the laptop)?
[06:36] <odnigmann> jhaig the button wi-fi
[06:36] <daedra> hey does anyone know how to scroll up a conversation page in tmsnc?
[06:36] <jhaig> pbureau: odnigmann: Duh!  Didn't think of that.  I pressed the wifi button and it appears to have sprung into life.
[06:37] <mikefoo> Hey, for ssh'ing to a new host and getting the prompt for yes or no, is there a way I can automatically have a yes flag so I am not propted?  I need to script things for new hosts on the fly.
[06:37] <mikefoo> Anyone have an idea?
[06:37] <pbureau> odnigmann: now you problem, iwconfig reconizes the card ?
[06:37] <pbureau> jhaig:  tada (grin)
[06:37] <jhaig> Thanks for the help.
[06:37] <odnigmann> yes
[06:37] <nixen9> hello everyone, i ve got some issue with my soundcard (module cs46xx) the sound is working but it's very low, i've already tried quiet a lot of things but i'm still not able to get it work (was working fine under 6.06) any advice/tips ?
[06:37] <pbureau> odnigmann:  let me think
[06:38] <wheels3572> Who here knows much about evolution?
[06:38] <daedra> nixen9: type "alsamixer" in console
[06:38] <Pici> nixen9 : check your volume in alsamixer
[06:38] <nixen9> daedra, but there all way up (first thing i try)
[06:39] <daedra> nixen9: check that EVERYTHING is to the max
[06:39] <[SilverFox] > uhh windows xp i mean ubuntu start menu and task menu w/e call them are like frozen but stuff on the screen right now is not
[06:39] <nixen9> Pici, ditto in fact i only (hardly) hear something if master adn pcm are a 100%
[06:39] <nixen9> daedra, everything is to the max
[06:39] <nixen9> daedra, even input line....
[06:39] <daedra> hmm
[06:39] <AnkleBiter> um i was here earlier and i still cant get my wifi working, im running windows on a desktop hard wired into the router, i want to wifi with an ubuntu desktop. i try to activate my wifi connection (eth1) and ive got to the stage where that will activate, but how do i get it to connect to my router or the net?
[06:40] <odnigmann> pbureau .. i update nwtkj-manager in synapti .. but dont show wifi conections
[06:40] <nixen9> daedra, i've also tried to load the cs46xx modules with external_amp=1 but that didn't change a thing
[06:40] <pbureau> odnigmann: weird I just installed it myself and if you right click on the icon in the taskbar you should see it there
[06:40] <[SilverFox] > uhh windows xp i mean ubuntu start menu and task menu w/e call them are like frozen but stuff on the screen right now is not
[06:41] <daedra> nixen9: try "alsactl restore"
[06:41] <pbureau> I have downloaded supplicant + xsuplicant from the synaptic downloads, I have the network-manager-gnome running, but I dont see options for WPA only settings for WEP, how to I get both these to work together ?
[06:41] <sonia> hello
[06:41] <daedra> nixen9: then look again at alsamixer
[06:41] <joshy> hi sonia
[06:41] <alecjw> hi. is there any way of getting the windows bootloadrer back after it's been overwritten with grub? a friend (who's considering trying out ubuntu) is aasking me
[06:41] <sonia> hi joshy
[06:41] <nixen9> daedra, done, still the same
[06:42] <daedra> nixen9: i'm stumped
[06:42] <sonia> alguien en espaol
[06:42] <nixen9> daedra, re-put evrything all way up in alsamixer
[06:42] <daedra> !esp | sonia
[06:42] <SushiP> You should make all those links tiny urls.
[06:42] <odnigmann> pbureau . .. right click in icon .. i just see : enable network / connection inf and about
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <AndErsArTiG> nobody can help me why i cannot use my digicam as user, only as root ? (Could not claim interface 0 (Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[06:42] <daedra> !spa | sonia
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <daedra> ffs
[06:42] <nixen9> this card was working fine under 6.06  (and as a matter of fact it's still working fine under... uhhh windows)
[06:42] <daedra> !es
[06:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:42] <daedra> :D
[06:43] <SushiP> !ru
[06:43] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:43] <AnkleBiter> um i was here earlier and i still cant get my wifi working, im running windows on a desktop hard wired into the router, i want to wifi with an ubuntu desktop. i try to activate my wifi connection (eth1) and ive got to the stage where that will activate, but how do i get it to connect to my router or the net? (im running dapper)
[06:43] <SushiP> !en
[06:43] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:43] <pbureau> odnigmann:  humm .. whats does iwconfig and ifconfig say  about your card?
[06:43] <[SilverFox] > !jp
[06:43] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[06:43] <sonia> hola daedra
[06:43] <[SilverFox] > zomg!
[06:43] <sonia> de donde eres?
[06:43] <SushiP> !hr
[06:43] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[06:43] <daedra> hola...
[06:43] <SushiP> What's the short version of hebrew?
[06:43] <odnigmann> pbureau  iwconfig eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Mode:Monitor  Frequency=2.452 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Encryption key:off
[06:43] <SushiP> :P
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Power Management:off
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:43] <odnigmann>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:43] <sonia> como se pone en privado?
[06:43] <finalbeta> !paste
[06:43] <[SilverFox] > WTF
[06:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <nixen9> daedra, i've also manually compiler the lastest alsa-drive (and libs and utils 1.0.14rc2) but no luck
[06:44] <SushiP> !hebrew
[06:44] <ubotu>          
[06:44] <daedra> no hablo espanol, pero puedes tratar #ubuntu-es
[06:44] <SushiP> It doesn't say what channel :P
[06:44] <sonia> como lo pongo
[06:44] <daedra> lolzorz
[06:44] <LjL> SushiP: #ubuntu-il ... it used to say it
[06:44] <LjL> hm
[06:44] <facugaich> sonia: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:44] <LjL> sonia: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[06:44] <daedra> !mayan
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mayan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Pici> !botabuse
[06:44] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:44] <daedra> !spanglish
[06:44] <AnkleBiter> um i was here earlier and i still cant get my wifi working, im running windows on a desktop hard wired into the router, i want to wifi with an ubuntu desktop. i try to activate my wifi connection (eth1) and ive got to the stage where that will activate, but how do i get it to connect to my router or the net?
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanglish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <[SilverFox] > does x always crash?
[06:45] <daedra> Pici: sorry
[06:45] <pbureau> odnigmann:  humm ... try rebooting...
[06:45] <pbureau> ?
[06:45] <[SilverFox] > cuz for me i cant logout and crashes a lot like that
[06:45] <nukeDev> i'm back :D
[06:45] <SushiP> Sorry for aboozing.
[06:45] <odnigmann> pbureau down.. and up?
[06:45] <AnkleBiter> help please....somebody....?
[06:45] <alecjw> is there any way of getting the windows bootloadrer back after it's been overwritten with grub? a friend (who's considering trying out ubuntu) is aasking me
[06:45] <AnkleBiter> um i was here earlier and i still cant get my wifi working, im running windows on a desktop hard wired into the router, i want to wifi with an ubuntu desktop. i try to activate my wifi connection (eth1) and ive got to the stage where that will activate, but how do i get it to connect to my router or the net?
[06:46] <pbureau> AnkleBiter:  humm you need to configure it to connect to your network router according to WEP/WPA protocols on the router
[06:46] <nixen9> anyone running a Digifire/Fortissimo soundcard out there ? kind enough to post the content of some files ?
[06:46] <pbureau> odnigmann:  yeah I would give that a try...
[06:46] <HeyJude> yes use winboot disk and fdisk /mbr
[06:46] <LjL> !il
[06:46] <ubotu>            - ubuntu-il#
[06:46] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[06:46] <LjL> ...
[06:46] <Pici> hehe
[06:46] <HeyJude> you could even use the ntbootldr for ubuntu instead of lilo or grub
[06:46] <LjL> *now* it says it again
[06:46] <AnkleBiter> um i was here earlier and i still cant get my wifi working, im running windows on a desktop hard wired into the router, i want to wifi with an ubuntu desktop. i try to activate my wifi connection (eth1) and ive got to the stage where that will activate, but how do i get it to connect to my router or the net?
[06:47] <Pici> !repeat | AnkleBiter
[06:47] <ubotu> AnkleBiter: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:47] <AnkleBiter> !patience
[06:47] <pbureau> Pici:  I answered him :)
[06:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:47] <Pici> pbureau : I know
[06:47] <odnigmann> pbureau ifconfig : eth1      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-0E-35-4C-50-C6-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[06:47] <odnigmann>           UP BROADCAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:47] <odnigmann>           RX packets:177 errors:0 dropped:2 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:47] <odnigmann>           TX packets:2773 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
[06:47] <odnigmann>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:47] <odnigmann>           RX bytes:43859 (42.8 KiB)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[06:47] <odnigmann>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe000 Memory:e0204000-e0204fff
[06:47] <AnkleBiter> i have no patience!!! i am an idiot regards ubuntu!!!
[06:48] <nukeDev> lol
[06:48] <Pici> !pastebin | odnigmann
[06:48] <ubotu> odnigmann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <pbureau> AnkleBiter:  better learn or go back to windows
[06:48] <odnigmann> sorry
[06:48] <Pici> AnkleBiter : we all were diots at some time
[06:48] <SushiP> You should  change "ubuntu-il#" to "#ubuntu-il" in the !hebrew auto reply.
[06:48] <Dial> What chan do I use to post information about improving Upstart
[06:48] <Pici> AnkleBiter : and some of us still cant spell
[06:48] <nukeDev> most of us still are
[06:49] <pbureau> odnigmann:  so what does your system-administration-networking say about your card, it is "enabled"?
[06:49] <AnkleBiter> lol sorry its just im beginning to think my pc hates me, whenever i try to set something up it decides to suicide
[06:49] <nukeDev> sounds like my PC
[06:49] <SushiP> Mine does worse AB.
[06:49] <AnkleBiter> lol
[06:49] <Pici> AnkleBiter : is your wifi configured to your router's ssid?
[06:49] <odnigmann> pbureau  yes.. enable
[06:49] <SushiP> Every time I fix something, it purposely breaks something else out of spite.
[06:50] <nixen9> nukeDev, you're lucky mine doesn't even "soudn" ;)
[06:50] <SecrethX> highvoltz, hi beloved fellow ubuntu users :)
[06:50] <SecrethX> woops
[06:50] <pbureau> odnigmann:  so now do you see it iin the network manager gnome app
[06:50] <SushiP> So does every major linux distro have a channel on this server?
[06:50] <odnigmann> pbureau just wired network
[06:50] <pbureau> I have downloaded supplicant + xsuplicant from the synaptic downloads, I have the network-manager-gnome running, but I dont see options for WPA only settings for WEP, how to I get both these to work together ?
[06:50] <Pici> SushiP : http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml
[06:50] <pbureau> odnigmann:  reboot your box.
[06:51] <AnkleBiter> so has anyone any ideas because the ubuntu troubleshoot pages, etc certainly arent helping an ubuntu noob like me lol
[06:51] <LjL> SushiP: uhm.. i see #ubuntu-il actually
[06:51] <LjL> blah
[06:51] <odnigmann> pbureau how
[06:51] <SushiP> Maybe because you don't see the Hebrew right to left.
[06:51] <pbureau> odnigmann:  sudo shutdown -h now
[06:51] <LjL> SushiP: possible, but when i type a character in hebrew, it *does* switch right-to-left as soon as i do
[06:52] <felisa> hablais espaol
[06:52] <LjL> !es | felisa
[06:52] <ubotu> felisa: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:52] <odnigmann> 1m.
[06:52] <LjL> SushiP: and then when i add a latin character, it starts being weird =)
[06:52] <arsenip> pbureau i dont think network-manager-gnome actually supports wpa
[06:52] <LjL> SushiP: can you join #ubuntu-bots for a moment please?
[06:52] <arsenip> for me todo wpa i have had to write a script
[06:52] <SushiP> I'm there.
[06:52] <foomanchew> pbureau, NM does support WPA and WPA Enterprise
[06:52] <lskd-255> I want to fully remove files that were deleted earlier, not shredded through a terminal command.  is there a way to clean up the slack space on a harddrive?  like shred can set the area the file that is shredded to 0
[06:53] <felisa_> hablais espaol
[06:53] <odnigmann> pbureau dont work.. close and open my user?
[06:53] <poorenglish> felipe: en este canal ingles solo plz
[06:53] <Pici> !es | felisa_
[06:53] <ubotu> felisa_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:53] <poorenglish> felisa: perdon
[06:53] <pbureau> odnigmann:  just shut the pc down man, top right corner red icon click on it select restart
[06:54] <odnigmann> pbureau i go restart.
[06:54] <rellik> I installed the nvidia binary drivers, but the ubuntu "screen resolution" selector still only goes up to 1024x768..  how do I enable higher res'es?
[06:54] <roberto> niemog zainstalowa audiocity help
[06:54] <pbureau> foomanchew:  but I install with synaptic the supplicant and xsupplicant packages and they dont show WPA choices on network-manager-gnome, only get 3 choices of wpe
[06:54] <AnkleBiter> is anyone else using a belkin 54g wifi card?
[06:54] <HymnToLife> !fixres | rellik
[06:54] <ubotu> rellik: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:54] <TuTUx> ls
[06:54] <TuTUx> oops
[06:55] <rellik> HymnToLife thanks
[06:55] <GionnyBoss> hi all! does anybody use Anjuta under Ubuntu? I tryed it now, but it crashes so often... is it normal? Does anybody have the same problem? Did anybody resolve it? Thanks
[06:55] <AnkleBiter> ok, what kind of wifi cards are you guys using
[06:55] <hjmills> TuTUx, lol - i have tried that before - you get an interesting reply when running finger commands in an msn chat window with people who dont know linux
[06:55] <pbureau> AnkleBiter:  dlink g630
[06:56] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, a built in atheros card in my lappy
[06:56] <odnigmann> hi.. dont show wifi in app network-manager
[06:56] <odnigmann> ahrharh
[06:56] <AnkleBiter> its just im using a belkin 54g and its annoying as i cant get connected!!! (probs just me being a noob anyway :P)
[06:56] <TuTUx> hjmills, ;D
[06:57] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, what chipsey?
[06:57] <AnkleBiter> err
[06:57] <hjmills> s/chipsey/chipset
[06:58] <pbureau> AnkleBiter:  goto System-administration-device manager and lookup your wifi card what chipset id does it give you?
[06:58] <pbureau> odnigmann:  humm I dunno you go me stumped.
[06:59] <kevinator> Any ideas on how safe/unsafe it would be to install 'dialog' from Edgy on Dapper?
[06:59] <MindFreek> GAIM Issue: In the new beta6 whenever I type into a message, the input area resizes instead of bringing up the scroll bars, and it is really annoying? Anyone have a resolution?
[06:59] <HeyJude> rm -r /
[06:59] <odnigmann> pbureau .. is my card
[06:59] <HeyJude> heh
[06:59] <odnigmann> pbureau i think
[06:59] <kevinator> Or to install 'dialog' from Breezy on Dapper?
[06:59] <instabin> Im running a program wiht > /dev/null & at the end... Is there any way to view the out put
[07:00] <Pici> instabin : no, you're sending it all to /dev/null
[07:00] <instabin> Pici so i cant view what is being sent to /dev/null?
[07:00] <pbureau> odnigmann:  what chipset that card is using ? (system-administration-device manager)
[07:00] <AnkleBiter> pbureau: it says something about BCM 4318 (AirForce One 54g)
[07:00] <odnigmann> pbureau i have intel centrino
[07:00] <odnigmann> pbureau 2200
[07:01] <pbureau> odnigmann:  Intel 2200G ?
[07:01] <Pici> instabin : the system discards everything that is sent to /dev/null
[07:01] <odnigmann> pbureau y
[07:01] <hjmills> instabin, just dont use > /dev/null
[07:01] <instabin> oh
[07:01] <instabin> hjmills: i have to i want to run the program from rc.local
[07:01] <Pici> instabin : more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null
[07:01] <instabin> but some times i want to view the out put
[07:01] <JohnPariah> I find exceedingly funny no one knows
[07:01] <AnkleBiter> is that the chipset?
[07:02] <odnigmann> pbureau i use ipw2200 fw and driver
[07:02] <hjmills> instabin, cant you use > /path/to/a/log.file
[07:02] <AnkleBiter> the ---> BCM 4318 (AirForce One 54g) bit
[07:02] <capixaba> how can I see the ubuntu distro?
[07:02] <odnigmann> pbureau and diswrapper w22n51.inf / winxp
[07:02] <hjmills> instabin, then it will write it to a log file whenever it runs, overwriting the old log file
[07:02] <hjmills> !livecd | capixaba
[07:02] <ubotu> capixaba: Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[07:02] <capixaba> in my system...
[07:02] <pbureau> odnigmann:  goto http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-023716.htm and get the linux drivers for that card
[07:03] <Lynoure> pbureau: I'm back now. Did you get WPA working with networkmanager?
[07:03] <pbureau> odnigmann:  remove the windows drivers
[07:03] <capixaba> ubotu: in my system... in the terminal
[07:03] <pbureau> Lynoure:  well I got the manager to work but only provide me with WEP selection no WPA choice
[07:03] <capixaba> ubotu: how can i see the version? in the terminal...
[07:03] <odnigmann> pbureau how? i dont have a  graphic mode of ndiswrapper
[07:03] <odnigmann> pbureau :)
[07:03] <instabin> hjmills thanks for the recomendation ill have to try that and see how big the log file gets...
[07:04] <pbureau> odnigmann:  ndiswrapper -u name of driver
[07:04] <Lynoure> pbureau: That's weird.
[07:04] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: is ----> BCM 4318 (AirForce One 54g) the chipset?
[07:04] <kotatsu> anyone able to recommend a flash based portable music player that 1) plays oggs and 2) is compatible (usb mass storage) with linux?
[07:04] <pbureau> AnkleBiter:  yep... I would look at madwifi to see if it is compatible (www.madwifi.org)
[07:05] <hjmills> instabin, it overwrites the old file each time
[07:05] <hjmills> AnkleBiter,
[07:05] <hjmills> oops
[07:05] <pbureau> Lynoure:  yeah and I used symaptic to download/install supplicant/xsupplicant (which I cannot see teh x application of supplicant)
[07:05] <AnkleBiter> ? lol
[07:05] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, search the wiki for BCM 4318
[07:05] <AnkleBiter> ok
[07:06] <fotoflo_> how do i see which processes are using which ports and how much bandwith theyre using?
[07:07] <pbureau> Lynoure:  checking again for supplicant install...maybe it did not install after all...
[07:07] <Lynoure> pbureau: And you did start the network-manager-gnome applet instead of looking still at the old wifi manager? (Sorry, just ruling out the easy "oops" solutions)
[07:07] <swampysc> I have a dummies question...:)  I installed Dancer, as well as its docs,  I have found everything in the files system except for the docs, where would they have been put?  Much Thanks
[07:07] <pbureau> Lynoure: okay the wpagui wasnt installed installing now.
[07:07] <odnigmann> pbureau  ndiswrapper command not fond
[07:07] <odnigmann> hehe
[07:07] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:07] <pbureau> Lynoure:  nah I know the difference.
[07:07] <Pici> fotoflo_ : take a look at the netstat command, I dont know the exact syntax but it should point you in the right direction
[07:07] <pbureau> odnigmann:  sudo ndiswrapper
[07:08] <fotoflo_> k thanks
[07:08] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ill go check
[07:08] <nukeDev> !gnome
[07:08] <fotoflo_> cool
[07:08] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:09] <Lynoure> pbureau: Yes, I think you do, but sometimes even smart people do silly things :)
[07:09] <Pici> swampysc : possibly /usr/share/doc/dancer
[07:09] <odnigmann> pbureau dont have
[07:09] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, that has some good instructions on and I would recommend the non ndiswrapper method
[07:09] <swampysc> thanks much
[07:09] <Lynoure> pbureau: hmm, I'm surprised it was not a dependancy...
[07:09] <pbureau> Lynoure: true.... waitting for install to coomplete... well see in a bit
[07:10] <AnkleBiter> hjmills:ok i checked and it comes up with the BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g)
[07:10] <SecrethX> for some reason amarok is cutting my songs >_> a song thats supposed to last 3.40 _SOMETIMES_ will stop @ 1 (example, it doesnt always happen)
[07:10] <pbureau> odnigmann: type sudo ndiswrapper what does it say ?
[07:10] <odnigmann> pbureau not found
[07:11] <pbureau> Lynoure: I wonder if I need to reboot for it to take (after installed)
[07:11] <pbureau> odnigmann:  then you did not install ndiswrapper then
[07:11] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, what does? lspci? then you can use that link I gave you to get to a guide - the three links at the bottom of that page i sent you link to the guides for edgy, dapper and breezy
[07:11] <pbureau> odnigmann:  install using the link I gave you the linus intell2200G drivers
[07:11] <slyfox> Hi
[07:11] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: yes lspci
[07:11] <slyfox> Question about firefox. When you download a file and you see it completed - you can right click and select - open destination directory. How come this does not work in Linux but does in windows ?
[07:11] <AndErsArTiG> ciao
[07:11] <slyfox> I have Kubuntu 6.10
[07:11] <Lynoure> pbureau: actually, I do not seem to need wpagui on kubuntu (dapper)...
[07:12] <odnigmann> pbureau ok.. i go try
[07:12] <LazyAngel> can someone that uses Edgy give me the output of: cat /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf | grep pin_helper
[07:13] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: the thing is ive got the official drivers, i used ndiswrapper-0.12  and found the official drivers from the cd and they worked....apparently....
[07:13] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, did you find the guide for your version of ubuntu? if so and you are using edgy uninstall the ndiswrapper stuff and use the fw-cutter method
[07:14] <LazyAngel> slyfox: not sure in kubuntu, but in ubuntu, you have to tell gnome-open what programs that should be opened with the diffrent extentions
[07:14] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: im using dapper and planning to upgrade to edgy when i manage to connect it to the net
[07:15] <LazyAngel> can someone that uses Edgy give me the output of: cat /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf | grep pin_helper  (i have played with my config, and cant remember what that line said )
[07:15] <odnigmann> pbureau how i see my version of kernel?
[07:15] <LazyAngel> odnigmann: uname -a
[07:15] <SecrethX> LazyAngel, doesnt output anything here, could be me though
[07:15] <LjL> LazyAngel: it gives me nothing. however, i have Kubuntu, and no bluetooth
[07:15] <LazyAngel> SecrethX: maybe you dont have bluetooth installe
[07:15] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, oh - any chance of a cable connection to do the upgrade?
[07:16] <SecrethX> LazyAngel, forgot to say that, sorry lol :P
[07:16] <odnigmann> LazyAngel tnks
[07:16] <LazyAngel> SecrethX: np :) thought everyone had it :D
[07:16] <slyfox> LazyAngel: Are you talking about default applciations? Because Frifox is set to be my default applicaiton, but when in firefox I have downlaoded a file and want to open the destination directory, it does nto do so
[07:16] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: no not really id have to have a wire running across the dining room up the stairs and into my room!
[07:17] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, is it a laptop or desktop?
[07:17] <kbrosnan> slyfox: firefox is considerd a gnome app, there might be a kubuntu bug to get the download manager to use the kde file browser
[07:17] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: desktop
[07:17] <slyfox> kbrosnan: this sucks :-)
[07:17] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, bummerz - ok, lets get going with ndiswrapper and have some fun
[07:18] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:18] <LazyAngel> slyfox: no, not default application like that. In firefox:  Edit-->Preferences--> Content --> (File Type) Manage
[07:19] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok, i got a driver installed for it apparently, and on the network manager thingy i got it to activate if that means anything but i have no idea where to go from there
[07:19] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, does your network do dhcp?
[07:19] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: i think so
[07:19] <kylen> Ubuntu rulez
[07:19] <nukeDev> yeh it does
[07:20] <LazyAngel> slyfox: sorry, that was wrong place. Not sure where you do it. I use Opera ;)
[07:20] <slyfox> LazyAngel: But that is for mp3 files and flash and otehr
[07:20] <ircusr> where do i get the codecs to play mp3s in ubuntu?
[07:20] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, can you open a terminal and run this command - "sudo dhclient eth0"
[07:21] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok but if this is what you mean my wifi connection thing is eth1
[07:21] <slyfox> ircusr: get automatix2
[07:21] <Pici> !mp3 | ircusr
[07:21] <LazyAngel> slyfox: there is probably a default application that tries to open all the files
[07:21] <ubotu> ircusr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <Pici> !automatix | slyfox
[07:21] <ubotu> slyfox: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:21] <LazyAngel> slyfox: in gnome, that is "gnome-open"
[07:21] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, then change eth0 for eth1
[07:21] <AnkleBiter> ok
[07:21] <ircusr> thanks
[07:21] <Al> is there anyway to access the trashbin from command line? I'm using Fluxbox
[07:22] <slyfox> LazyAngel: the problem is that firefox needs to communicate with knoqueror and tell it to open up the directory
[07:22] <nothlit> cd ~/.Trash
[07:22] <Pici> Al : ~/.Trash
[07:22] <nothlit> you can do that inside nautilus too anyways
[07:22] <nothlit> or Trash://(/?) i think
[07:22] <LazyAngel> slyfox: what happens when you try to open a file ?
[07:22] <Bidou> !<factoid>
[07:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:22] <aib> i tried packages.ubuntu.com, apt-file search and apt-cache search, but I cannot figure out the name of the package that provides libGLcore
[07:22] <aib> how do I pull this up?
[07:23] <SecrethX> anyone here who has cedega installed?
[07:23] <nothlit> aib, make sure you used packages.ubuntu.com correctly, use the second set of inputs
[07:23] <kylen> cya
[07:23] <aib> yeah i did that
[07:24] <Nalleman> Hi all
[07:24] <slyfox> LazyAngel: Nothing happens
[07:24] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok it said a lot of random stuff then said network is down and did that a few times
[07:25] <LazyAngel> slyfox: what happens when you tries to open the same file with the program that browses the folders and files on your system?
[07:25] <X|Rolando> hi folks, I'm trying to pick a budget laptop which I can put linux on
[07:25] <Nalleman> I have a slight problem. I can not change resolution to 1280 800, only got the standard resolution. what to do?
[07:25] <LazyAngel> slyfox: if nothing happens there either, then you have to set it up in that program.
[07:25] <Pici> !fixres | Nalleman
[07:25] <ubotu> Nalleman: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:25] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, can you please try the command "sudo iwlist scan"
[07:25] <Enverex> Nalleman, nVidia I assume? Ubuntu ships with BROKEN nVidia drivers, update them
[07:25] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok
[07:26] <tomce_> hi everyone, within the upgrade to feisty my wireless-pcmcia-card became a "wired-device"
[07:26] <Bidou> !#Educatux
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Educatux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <LazyAngel> slyfox: if that works, then you have to figure out how you can set firefox default to open files in that file viewer. (which is called gnome-open in gnome)
[07:26] <Bidou> !Educatux
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Educatux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <Nalleman> thanx all. nvida card but checking the links out
[07:27] <mystic_touch> Hello :)
[07:27] <kbrosnan> LazyAngel: firefox is a gnome app and uses gnome hooks to launch the correct application, it is likely bug for kubuntu
[07:27] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok it said it doesnt support scanning on all of them and on eth1 it also said no such device at the end
[07:27] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: not sounding too good
[07:28] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, no - ok
[07:28] <slyfox> LazyAngel: gnome-open in gnome where in Ubuntu do you do that? Is that ?
[07:28] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, do you still have that last guide I sent you
[07:28] <hjmills> ?
[07:28] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: yes
[07:28] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[07:28] <tomce_> hi everyone, within the upgrade to feisty my wireless-pcmcia-card became a "wired-device" - where can i put the bugreport?
[07:28] <LazyAngel> slyfox: you do it in nautilus
[07:28] <LazyAngel> kbrosnan: ok
[07:29] <coach_z> can someone please help me install my LAN drivers for my motherboard, none of the Linux drivers that came on the MB's CD work at all
[07:29] <AnkleBiter> hjmills:  ok what should i do with it
[07:29] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, can you try that or do you have no way to get the files you need for it onto the other pc?
[07:29] <W^^harddd^^> hi ! i have small query . i heard about ubuntu edgy . but its only on 1 cd n infact all ubuntu 's are on one cd n on the other hand every other distro like Fedora , CenOS etc have 4 cd's .
[07:29] <LazyAngel> can someone that uses Edgy with bluetooth installed give me the output of: cat /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf | grep pin_helper  (i have played with my config, and cant remember what that line said )
[07:29] <ikonia> W^^harddd^^: you download additional stuff from the net so its only 1 cd
[07:30] <W^^harddd^^> 1 cd mean less packages etc
[07:30] <stoorty> yes but you download them
[07:30] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: i can transfer to floppy/cd and run them on my upstairs pc yes
[07:30] <stoorty> hence only one cd to install
[07:30] <gb_> hi
[07:30] <pommie> W^^harddd^^ : You can also get a single DVD with much of the packages on it, to save downloading.
[07:30] <blade_> anyone know how to change the specified action of a keyboard shortcut?
[07:30] <slyfox> LazyAngel: I'll see if I can find somethig in Ubuntu forums
[07:31] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, try running that script on your pc upstairs
[07:31] <LazyAngel> slyfox: ok. good luck
[07:31] <gb_> How is everyone?
[07:31] <W^^harddd^^^> u mean through yum ?
[07:31] <[1] ircusr> good
[07:31] <[1] ircusr> yourself?
[07:31] <ikonia> W^^harddd^^read the docs on how ubuntu works
[07:31] <gb_> good ty
[07:31] <W^^harddd^^^> so y not ubuntu offers more cd's ?
[07:31] <ikonia> w^^harddd^^ it will explain how it all works
[07:31] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^:  yum on ubuntu?
[07:32] <ikonia> W^^harddd^^there is no need for multiple CD's - there is a cd and DVD version.
[07:32] <W^^harddd^^^> paste me the link
[07:32] <LazyAngel> slyfox: you can also try #kubuntu or #kde Probably more than you that has this problem
[07:32] <SamerZiadeh> hi
[07:32] <ikonia> W^^harddd^^ http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:32] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok (im a noob) which script, and do i run it in terminal or something
[07:32] <W^^harddd^^^> wat about ubuntu edgy ?
[07:32] <W^^harddd^^^> tell me some of its features ?
[07:32] <blade_> anybody?
[07:32] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, follow the instructions on that forum post - it will get you to download a file and run 3 or so commands - that should set up ndiswrapper
[07:33] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok but i think i have ndiswrapper already
[07:33] <W^^harddd^^^> will u share some ubuntu edgy features ?
[07:33] <blade_> anyone know how to change the specified action of a keyboard shortcut?
[07:33] <gb_> blade_:  like?
[07:33] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, this will make sure everything is in the correct place and should set it all up perfectly
[07:34] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok thanks
[07:34] <Enverex> W^^harddd^^, You only need the one CD as you install anything you want via the net after the install
[07:34] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: i'll message you when im done
[07:34] <blade_> i haver a macro button that is set to adjust volume..the shortcut allows it to do so, but only the master volume, which does nothing...i need to change it to adjust PCM volume
[07:34] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^:  it has easy install, writes to ntfs
[07:34] <W^^harddd^^^> yea got that
[07:34] <gb_> what more ;)
[07:34] <[1] ircusr> whats the difference between the ubuntu cd and the dvd images?
[07:35] <gb_> [1] ircusr:  dvd saves some time of downloading :)
[07:35] <blade_> but in the shortcut manager, all it has is a shortcut for volume, which doesnt help, as it only affects master volume..
[07:35] <[1] ircusr> ah
[07:35] <gb_> dont think any feature will be different
[07:35] <Enverex> W^^harddd^^, It's the same as every other distro of Linux because it's still Linux, but a lot of pre-configured for you so it's easier to use
[07:35] <SamerZiadeh> hello all
[07:35] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> hi.suddenly i have some network problem on ubuntu.in GAIM i cannot connect to my MSN Account.but the ICQ account is ok.and in AMULE i cant connect to any server.but the KAD network is working.what can i do?
[07:35] <W^^harddd^^^> gb_: few more
[07:35] <XBehave>  i have a problem using xine for real media streams, should i try and fix wine or install an alternative engine for amarok?
[07:35] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^: haha
[07:36] <coach_z> can someone please help me install my LAN drivers for my motherboard, none of the Linux drivers that came on the MB's CD work at all....i cant find any of the drivers on the asus website at all and am basically lost,  LAN does work when running in windows XP
[07:36] <SamerZiadeh> I can't get ubuntu to start installing
[07:36] <heatxsink> my nvidia driver for the kernel goes away after reboot has anyone seen this?
[07:36] <W^^harddd^^^> gb_: i mean some stronge facts so that i can make people convence to get rid of fedora
[07:36] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: what disk are you useing? alternate or desktop?
[07:36] <blade_> GB >> any clue how to change that
[07:36] <gb_> blade_:  nope, sorry
[07:37] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^: ubuntu has mp3 support ;)
[07:37] <blade_> damn...ok
[07:37] <blade_> thanks anyways
[07:37] <W^^harddd^^^> gd_: haha nice fact
[07:38] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> hi.suddenly i have some network problem on ubuntu.in GAIM i cannot connect to my MSN Account.(it says "unable to connect")but the ICQ account is ok.and in AMULE i cant connect to any server.but the KAD network is working.what can i do?
[07:38] <[1] ircusr> kamuzu
[07:38] <[1] ircusr> msn doesnt work now
[07:38] <gb_> K-a-M-u-Z-u: did u chk firewall?
[07:39] <[1] ircusr> i ve tried to connect from windows msn and it doesnt connect
[07:39] <gb_> [1] ircusr:  it does
[07:39] <[1] ircusr> really
[07:39] <gb_> [1] ircusr:  i use amsn
[07:39] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> i dont have any firewall
[07:39] <SamerZiadeh> to alecjw: I downloaded ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:39] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> and a friend of mine use the same linux and hsa MSN on GAIM
[07:39] <SamerZiadeh> im downloading the i386 now to see how this one goes
[07:39] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: you sure you have an amd64 computer?
[07:39] <jontec> hey, I'm in my xorg.conf file... I'm having trouble with color depth on GTK applications, KPDF, and my logout screen (yes I'm kubuntu :D) my DefaultDepth is set to 24, yet, below this, I have several entries that are subsections... which have different depths... is it okay to nuke all of these subsections except for the one that has my resolution?
[07:39] <[1] ircusr> nope
[07:39] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> i tryed to connect to MSN from windows and it works fine
[07:39] <[1] ircusr> i cant connect to msn
[07:39] <gb_> not sure but for amule dont u have to download server.lst first?
[07:40] <gb_> [1] ircusr: works here
[07:40] <[1] ircusr> damn
[07:40] <gb_> [1] ircusr: try amsn
[07:40] <gb_> [1] ircusr: sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:40] <[1] ircusr> why, msn has worked for me
[07:40] <[1] ircusr> ah you mean on linux
[07:40] <[1] ircusr> ok
[07:40] <SamerZiadeh> yea, right now I'm running  openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) and my CPU is   AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
[07:40] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> i have used amule for a long time now,i have servers....my problem is network prolbem in ubuntu
[07:41] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> i tryed AMSN but its not working either
[07:41] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: ah. you're a linux guy. you might want to try the alternate isntall then
[07:41] <odnigmann> ahrhr.. my network-manager-gnome dont show my wireless conections.. ahrhr
[07:41] <odnigmann> just wired onections
[07:41] <boguh> hi, i just install artwiz fonts but they are not shown with xfontsel
[07:41] <SamerZiadeh> what's the alternate one?
[07:41] <SamerZiadeh> how is it different
[07:42] <gb_> SamerZiadeh: its allow text install
[07:42] <J03yk> hallo
[07:42] <J03yk> is there a ubuntu server channel?
[07:42] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: with suse you have a livecd and an installcd, right?
[07:42] <SamerZiadeh> oh ok that's cool, I was looking for that on ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:42] <jontec> no one knows what that'll do to my setup?
[07:42] <SamerZiadeh> for suse I downloaded 5CDs
[07:42] <jontec> !welcome | J03yk
[07:42] <ubotu> J03yk: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[07:43] <gb_> i got suse 10.2 dvd
[07:43] <gb_> did not like it much
[07:43] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: actaully. scrape that. that was a bad example
[07:43] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> so anyone know how can i fix my network?
[07:43] <mtyhome> hi
[07:43] <SamerZiadeh> yea suse 10.2 was such a hassle to install, the older versions were easier
[07:43] <SecrethX> does someone here actually got cedega to work? :x
[07:43] <aaron> it's deep night, i'll sleep
[07:44] <pike_> K-a-M-u-Z-u: "sudo iptables -L" will show if you have any firewall rules configured. by default inbound outbound and forward should just be accept
[07:44] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: the desktop cd is a livecd and an installation cd rolled into one. the alternate one is just an install cd, with no graphics at all, just a command line instller
[07:44] <gb_> !cedega | gb_
[07:44] <ubotu> gb_: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:44] <deep> *>
[07:44] <deep> :)
[07:44] <boguh> or how can i update or restart the font server?
[07:44] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> i really need my MSN account,only this could drive me back to microcrap...
[07:44] <deep> Goodnight :D
[07:44] <mtyhome> can you help me fix network-manager? iwconfig works just fine but network-manager cannot get the wireless connection
[07:44] <Nalleman> Hi again. I still have problem with my resolution. someone mentioned that i should install package 915resolution to get 1280 800 working but i cant find that package in synaptic. help plz..
[07:44] <gb_> K-a-M-u-Z-u:  hiya
[07:44] <gb_> K-a-M-u-Z-u:  try turning the firewall off
[07:45] <jontec> mtyhome: what comptuer do you have?
[07:45] <SamerZiadeh> but with the alternate when I finish installing it I'll get a GUI right?
[07:45] <SamerZiadeh> btw which one would you guys say is better "ubuntu" or "openSUSE"?
[07:45] <mtyhome> it's on a laptop jontec
[07:45] <leafw> anyway to enable check burned CD in the nautilus-cd-burner?
[07:45] <ardchoille42> Nalleman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <gb_> SamerZiadeh:  yes
[07:45] <hjmills> SamerZiadeh, ubuntu and yes you get a gui
[07:45] <gb_> SamerZiadeh: ubuntu any day
[07:45] <leafw> the gconf-editor has a "burnproof", but don't know whether that's it
[07:45] <jontec> mtyhome: okay, what model and manufacturer?
[07:46] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: i'd say ubuntu, but of course, i use ubuntu, and i'm familliar with it
[07:46] <mtyhome> jontec, anyway it's a airvast 124a:168b wifi card on a dialogue flybook
[07:46] <SamerZiadeh> I liked the screenshots that I saw for ubuntu, they look really nice
[07:46] <alecjw> so i'm a bit biase
[07:46] <ircusr> to all: gnome or kde?
[07:46] <gb_> SamerZiadeh: in opensuse, only name is open, rest everything so closed and comples
[07:46] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: how aobut htis one?: http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/s.jpg
[07:46] <gb_> complex*
[07:46] <Nalleman> thank you ardchoille42, trying that out
[07:46] <mtyhome> jontec, the wifi card already has native supported prism_usb drivers but i need a cool gui
[07:46] <ardchoille42> SamerZiadeh, What kind of answer did you think you'd get in an Ubuntu support channel?
[07:47] <SecrethX> ircusr, gnome
[07:47] <slyfox> Does anyone here uses AUTOFS by any chance, please let me know.
[07:47] <jontec> mtyhome: okay then try...
[07:47] <jontec> !wifi-radar | mtyhome
[07:47] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:47] <ardchoille42> Nalleman, That will reconfigure xorg and allow you to choose many different resolutions
[07:47] <gb_> slyfox:  not me sorry
[07:47] <SamerZiadeh> alecjw: is that lg3d?
[07:47] <ircusr> why gnome?
[07:47] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> ok...i have something...
[07:47] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> moblock
[07:47] <SamerZiadeh> ardchoille42: lol it was worth a shot
[07:47] <gb_> alecjw:  can u post link agaun plz?
[07:47] <mtyhome> jontec, but wifi-radar only serves wifi lans, while i need a sleek applet
[07:47] <ardchoille42> SamerZiadeh, hehe
[07:47] <gb_> again*
[07:47] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> how can i configure that moblock?
[07:48] <jontec> mtyhome: ubuntu doesn't have a gui? sleek applet?
[07:48] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: no. beryl: http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php
[07:48] <alecjw> gb_:  http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php
[07:48] <alecjw> gb_: oops. sorry. wrong link
[07:48] <gb_> alecjw:  of screenshot sir
[07:48] <jontec> mtyhome: what do you need it to do?
[07:48] <SamerZiadeh> I tried installing lg3d once and I had to play around with xorg and I ended up ruining my gui
[07:48] <mtyhome> jontec, to manage networking
[07:48] <alecjw> gb_:  http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/s.jpg
[07:48] <gb_> ty alecjw
[07:49] <mtyhome> jontec, just like nm-applet
[07:49] <jontec> mtyhome: more specific, please :D
[07:49] <jontec> jontec: I have no idea what that is...
[07:49] <SecrethX> alecjw, I cant get beryl to work ;P how did you do it?
[07:49] <SamerZiadeh> I like (beryl project)
[07:49] <mtyhome> jontec, wifi, vpn, wired, all with a simple and fast gui
[07:49] <GionnyBoss> I can't get help for C functions in 'man' ... I used Fedora Core before, and that was included by default. Which package do I have to install to get this? I can't figure it out on my own, there are too many packages in the Development session! Thanks
[07:49] <W^^harddd^^^> will conexant soft modems will work on ubuntu edgy ????
[07:50] <K-a-M-u-Z-u> after i did ""sudo iptables -L" and found out "MOBLOCK",its like PEER GUARDIAN for linux.(to prevent my ip to go to goverment and other movies\music organiations) how do i configure it? or maybe remove it?
[07:50] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^: external?
[07:50] <jontec> mtyhome: oooh... I'm not sure if we have one of those... is nm-applet for windows or another distro?
[07:50] <leafw> for a 2G ram, what swap should be advisable, 4Gb? is that too much?
[07:50] <W^^harddd^^^> internal
[07:50] <alecjw> SecrethX: here's a gude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnEdgy - if you need beryl support, #ubuntu-xgl is probably what you need
[07:50] <gb_> leafw:  yes
[07:50] <gb_> atleast 3 :)
[07:50] <SecrethX> alecjw, is XGL really needed?
[07:50] <leafw> gb_ : ok
[07:50] <ircusr> whats beryl?
[07:50] <mtyhome> jontec, what are you talking about ? of course it runs under ubuntu fine
[07:51] <enyc> SecrethX: you can use AIGLX now... not xgl
[07:51] <W^^harddd^^^> will conexant soft modems (internal) will work on ubuntu edgy ????
[07:51] <jontec> mtyhome: okay, then what's the problem? I'm not seeing your question here
[07:51] <enyc> SecrethX: iirc edgy has aiglx enabled out-of-the-box
[07:51] <gb_> alecjw:  holy mosses, that s-shot is sweet :)
[07:51] <Khem> SecrethX: XGL is needed for ARI proprietary drivers
[07:51] <alecjw> SecrethX: no. i use somethiung which is included with the nvidia adriver. if you dont have an nvidia (eg intel or ati), you can use aiglx, which comes with xorg
[07:51] <Khem> s/ARI/ATI
[07:51] <alecjw> gb_: :)
[07:51] <Khem> aiglx is slow on ATI
[07:51] <SecrethX> enyc, khem, alecjw, thanks..
[07:51] <ardchoille42> W^^harddd^^, Your nick intereferres with my chat client's theme.. were you aware of that?
[07:51] <SecrethX> Khem, I have ATi, which would you suggest? ;o
[07:52] <gb_> alecjw:  hats offs, nice work
[07:52] <W^^harddd^^^> how ?
[07:52] <Khem> SecrethX: ATI + glx + beryl rocks
[07:52] <ardchoille42> nick takes up too much space
[07:52] <mtyhome> the networkmanager just hangs waiting to associate to a wlan.... while iwconfig (which is what nm is based on) associates and connects just fine
[07:52] <mtyhome> why?
[07:52] <Khem> I must admit its way easier to use beryl on nvidia
[07:52] <SecrethX> Khem,  okay :)
[07:52] <SecrethX> Khem, well.. I happen to have an ATi ;P
[07:53] <wheels3572> can anyone help me with the exporting of evolution mail and contacts please
[07:53] <alecjw> SecrethX and gb_: and this is the skydome image i used: http://web.mit.edu/kayla/Public/Backgrounds/Space%20-%20Crab%20Nebula.jpeg
[07:53] <ircusr> wtf is beryl??!!!
[07:53] <gb_> alecjw:  can i ask 1 ?
[07:53] <alecjw> gb_: go ahead
[07:53] <ardchoille42> ircusr, it's a pretty way to waste resources, lol
[07:53] <ircusr> ah
[07:53] <gb_> alecjw:  which do u think is a good p2p client for linux
[07:53] <SecrethX> alecjw, nice, NASA happens to have some nice nebula pics too ;)
[07:53] <gb_> i have seen many dont work or are so slow
[07:53] <ircusr> a desktop interface, right?
[07:54] <Khem> SecrethX: use this guide here http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[07:54] <Louie`> Hello there, I've just installed ubuntuserver on my server. And I have to write "sudo dhclient" every time i start to get internet and such. If i look at my /etc/network/interfaces i got two lines, auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:54] <jontec> mtyhome: I think we've gone a bit over my level :D I've never used nm before and I've only a small amount of experience with iwconfig... :( sorry
[07:54] <Louie`> Is there anything i need to add/fix?
[07:54] <Khem> SecrethX: this is pretty much you need on edgy
[07:54] <alecjw> ircusr: it's a 3d desktopey cuvbey thing. here's their website: http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php
[07:54] <SecrethX> Khem, im gonna try that one :)
[07:54] <jontec> answer his question... mtyhome, please
[07:54] <alecjw> gb_: i use gtk-gnutella
[07:54] <Khem> SecrethX: ok good luck
[07:54] <ircusr> ah, like AERO for windows?
[07:54] <ardchoille42> ircusr, It just adds eye candy
[07:54] <mtyhome> jontec, his whom??
[07:54] <gb_> ok ty
[07:54] <ircusr> kool
[07:54] <SecrethX> Khem, thanks.. will need it ;P
[07:54] <tomce_> which package is responsible for detection of network-cards?
[07:54] <crazy_penguin> hello to all
[07:55] <alecjw> ircusr: not quite. hete's a screenshot: http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/s.jpg
[07:55] <wheels3572> !evolution > wheels3572
[07:55] <ircusr> kool
[07:55] <jontec> mtyhome: wasn't directed at you... was directed to the channel... :D I was asking them to answer your question. :D
[07:55] <alecjw> ircusr: do you have adobe flash?
[07:55] <SecrethX> alecjw, http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/lib/aptree.html has some nice pictures
[07:55] <mtyhome> does anybody mess around with networkmanager????
[07:55] <ircusr> yea why
[07:55] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok done, its turned eth1 into wlan0
[07:56] <jontec> 'time to go nuke my xorg.conf. :D see ya.
[07:56] <alecjw> ircusr: here's a quich video of it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcCU70d-pfc
[07:56] <ircusr> ah
[07:56] <ircusr> thanks
[07:56] <alecjw> SecrethX: cool. thanks.
[07:56] <Khem> SecrethX: go to youtube and you will see videos of beryl in action on edgy its so cool
[07:57] <SecrethX> Khem, already saw them :P thats why I wanted beryl to work :p
[07:57] <gb_> let me chk beryl
[07:57] <gb_> alecjw:  do i have to keep anything in mind before installing it?
[07:57] <alecjw> gb_: yes. it will crash your graphics card if it's less than about half a gig :D
[07:57] <Khem> I was reading through roadmap for fiesty fawl (ubuntu 7.04) and beryl is planned to be default that will be so cool
[07:58] <gb_> ouch :D
[07:58] <gb_> i'm ok then like this
[07:58] <gb_> lol
[07:58] <SecrethX> Khem, yea but I cant wait that long :P
[07:58] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, now try "sudo iwlist wlan0"
[07:58] <alecjw> gb_: although if you cut down on some of the effects, it will run on a 32mb onboard intel. it's a beta too, so whatch out for that
[07:58] <andre_> hello does anyone know how to get linux to play my dvd's
[07:58] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me if Thunderbird mail can export mail?
[07:58] <Khem> yeah I understand SecrethX I have it runiing on all my machines
[07:58] <gb_> wheels3572:  but u can backup the folder ;)
[07:59] <Khem> at work on nvidia at home on my thinkpad T43 + ATI
[07:59] <gb_> wheels3572:  $HOME/.thunderbiard
[07:59] <alecjw> andre_: you need to add seveas' repositories
[07:59] <gb_> bird*
[07:59] <SecrethX> alecjw, are you serious about that half a gig problem? :O I dunno how much I have
[07:59] <alecjw> and install libdvdcss 2
[07:59] <wheels3572> gb_, Can you tell me how to back up evolution?
[07:59] <alecjw> SecrethX: nah. transparency works fine on my 128mb, but it cant handle blur
[07:59] <gb_> wheels3572:  ok np
[07:59] <alecjw> !seveas | andre_
[07:59] <ubotu> andre_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:59] <SecrethX> alecjw, okay :) will keep that in mind
[08:00] <hairulfr> Hey all - anyone know what the default password for bluetooth is on ubuntu? My phone keeps getting rejected, and I'd hate having to use windows coz of a stupid thing like that
[08:00] <andre_> thankyou
[08:00] <gb_> hairulfr: 123
[08:01] <gb_> wheels3572: backup $HOME/.evolution folder
[08:01] <ben__> good evening, life forms
[08:01] <nukeDev> what is the apt-get for the ms core fonts? msttcorefonts dont work
[08:01] <ben__> anyone not being served?
[08:02] <Seveas> !msttcorefonts
[08:02] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:02] <Seveas> nukeDev, enable multiverse
[08:02] <ben__> *salutes seveas
[08:03] <ardchoille42> Does the flashplugin-nonfree handle flash 9 now?
[08:03] <nukeDev> lol thanks forgot, new install
[08:03] <Seveas> ardchoille42, yes
[08:03] <ardchoille42> Seveas, Thanks
[08:03] <SamerZiadeh> alecjw: are you using beryl now?
[08:03] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: it keeps saying iwlist: unknown command 'wlan0'
[08:03] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: yep
[08:03] <W^^harddd^^^> wats that beryl ???
[08:04] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, oh sorry - that should be "sudo iwlist scan"
[08:04] <nukeDev> seveas: is their a terminal command to enable muiltiverse?
[08:04] <nukeDev> !multiverse
[08:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:04] <SecrethX> Khem, the other day someone here told me to delete all XGL-related things ;P
[08:04] <goodgerster> t'was me.
[08:04] <gb_> cant be me?
[08:04] <W^^harddd^^^> wats that beryl ???
[08:04] <Seveas> !beryl | W^^harddd^^^
[08:04] <ubotu> W^^harddd^^^: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:05] <SamerZiadeh> alecjw: how do you like it?
[08:05] <gb_> W^^harddd^^^:  eye candy for ubntu
[08:05] <alecjw> W^^harddd^^^: http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/s.jpg is beryl
[08:05] <wheels3572> gb_, are you saying to type backup $HOME/.evolution folder those words precisely?
[08:05] <SecrethX> hi goodgerster
[08:05] <hjmills> nukeDev, as  root run echo "the multiverse deb line" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <hairulfr> ben__: Hehe, yeah....
[08:05] <goodgerster> W^^harddd^^^: a demonstration of how to decrease productivity and stability in the name of shiney
[08:05] <alecjw> SamerZiadeh: its nice, but soemthimes it eats up too much of my grpahics card and i have to disable it
[08:05] <gb_> wheels3572:  enable viewing of hidden file
[08:05] <gb_> open home folder
[08:05] <gb_> copy .evolution folder to where u wana backup
[08:06] <Khem> alecjw: what else do u need the graphics card for  :)
[08:06] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: yes it says scan completed then a lot or random stuff under wlan0
[08:06] <alecjw> Khem: i eman as in it uses so much that it crashes
[08:06] <Khem> alecjw: 128mb should be good
[08:06] <flodine> can some tell how long will edgy be supported?
[08:07] <mc44> flodine: 18 months from release
[08:07] <goodgerster> flodine: 18 months, as usual,
[08:07] <n2diy> Is there a GUI frontend for gpg?
[08:07] <mc44> flodine: which was october
[08:07] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, can you see info about your wifi network? it should say the essid - if it does run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <your network name here> enc <your encryption key>"
[08:07] <gb_> n2diy: kgpg
[08:07] <flodine> so i have to upgrade after that right
[08:07] <gb_> n2diy: gnugpg
[08:08] <hairulfr> GAAH. Someone must know what the default password for bluetooth connections is on Ubuntu, my phone gets rejected, and I domn
[08:08] <n2diy> gdb: ok, thanks.
[08:08] <hairulfr> Don't know where to set it up
[08:08] <gb_> hairulfr: dude i told u
[08:08] <wheels3572> gb_, I wanna actually tar it up cuz im moving it to another pc
[08:08] <hairulfr> gb_:  Really? I didn't *beep* so I missed it
[08:08] <hairulfr> *it
[08:08] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: yes it says ESSID: BTVOYAGER@"$%$&
[08:08] <ardchoille42> Seveas, Is this the proper syntax (just an example): deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas backports custom
[08:08] <jontec> why are my colors teh suck?
[08:09] <gb_> wheels3572: command is tar -cf evolution.tar $HOME/.evolution
[08:09] <jontec> images are really messed up.
[08:09] <gb_> hairulfr: ok use 123
[08:09] <Seveas> ardchoille42, it is
[08:09] <Al> where are the firefox search plugins stored in Ubuntu?
[08:09] <nukeDev> !msttcorefonts
[08:09] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:09] <gb_> hairulfr:  it is in /etc/bluetooth/pin file
[08:09] <gb_> hairulfr:  ok?
[08:09] <alecjw> ardchoille42: yes, but i expect that you want edgy-sevas rather than dapper-seveas, and you want hte xtra component if youre looking for libdvdcss
[08:09] <ElIsma> Hello! I've problems with my lan connection. I was testing something and disconnected the cables while a connection was active. When I reconnected I coudn't get it to connect back. I tried ifdown/ifup , ifconfig, dhclient, but to no avail. My router won't give me an IP adress. I know the cables are correctly connected because I'm using the pc right now (in windows). I tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure -a but it didn't help... Any 
[08:09] <ElIsma> do?
[08:09] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, once you have run that command then run "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[08:10] <ardchoille42> alecjw, Got it, however, I"m still on Dapper.
[08:10] <hairulfr> gb_: Nice, cheers, stills gets rejected though :[
[08:10] <gb_> hairulfr:  which phone, nokia?
[08:10] <kbrosnan> al ~/.mozilla/firefox
[08:10] <hjmills> ElIsma, did you try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"?
[08:10] <ElIsma> hjmills, no, but I restarted a couple of times
[08:10] <hairulfr> gb_: Ericsson , and they are usually quite friendly
[08:10] <alecjw> ardchoille42: ok. but if you're looking for libdvdcss2, it's in the extras component. or it might be extra (in the sungular)
[08:10] <gb_> hairulfr:  try 0000
[08:11] <ardchoille42> alecjw, Ah, right, thanks
[08:11] <hjmills> ElIsma, oh - that would have the same effect - off
[08:11] <ElIsma> hjmills: restarting should have the same effect
[08:11] <hjmills> s/off/odd
[08:11] <hairulfr> gb_: Did that, hmm, now I just get "access denied"
[08:11] <wheels3572> gb_, what does this mean in the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2559/
[08:11] <nukeDev> ok i type sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts and i get this: Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:11] <nukeDev> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:11] <nukeDev> is only available from another source
[08:11] <nukeDev> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[08:11] <ElIsma> hjmills: dhclient tries to get an IP adress but doesn't get any :(
[08:11] <Al> kbrosnan, cant seem to find it. I wanna edit the google search file to point to the main google page instead of the mozilla/google page
[08:12] <gb_> wheels3572:  it basically does the same,
[08:12] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok i ran that but nothing happened, it just went to a new line
[08:12] <gb_> wheels3572:  it just add the .gconf/apps/evoltuion  folder too
[08:13] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, which one - the iwconfig line or the dhclient line?
[08:13] <wheels3572> gb_, what does the gconf app folder do what is the significance of that folder?
[08:13] <Enverex> Is there an OpenOffice channel?
[08:13] <rellik_> I want to install an sftp server..  which one should I use?
[08:13] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: oh no ill go and do thart
[08:13] <gb_> wheels3572:  prob. stores account info
[08:14] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, do you have encryption on the network?
[08:14] <wheels3572> gb_,  ok ty
[08:14] <gb_> wheels3572: welcome , i got it
[08:14] <rellik_> !sftpd
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <gb_> it stores calender, address book and all other releated stuff
[08:14] <leafw> what's the best partition type for a laptop, for best battery time ?
[08:14] <SecrethX> Khem, did everything, im going to reboot now
[08:14] <gb_> rellik_:  ftp server?
[08:15] <leafw> I know ext3 needs  constant writing, what about others?
[08:15] <rellik_> gb_, can a normal ftpd do sftp?
[08:15] <gb_> leafw: fat32 need constant fighting ;)
[08:15] <gb_> rellik_: vsftp can
[08:15] <Al> found it, it was in /usr/share/firefox......
[08:15] <gb_> not sure about others
[08:15] <leafw> gb_ : I will use ext3 because I know it, but I'm open to try others (not fat32 or ntfs)
[08:16] <AnkleBiter> hjkimml: no and i done that command
[08:16] <therapy>  Enverex : try users.openoffice.org
[08:16] <gb_> leafw: yeah same ext3 works ok here
[08:16] <nukeDev> anyone used automatix before?
[08:16] <AnkleBiter> !random
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about random - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <Enverex> What the hell is wrong with OpenOffice Writer? I'm trying to work on a document with pictures linked from a website and it just keeps locking up as a try and scroll
[08:16] <gb_> !automatix
[08:16] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:17] <gb_> Enverex:  got less RAM?
[08:17] <Enverex> gb_, RAM and CPU usage are non-existant
[08:17] <gb_> ok just chking :D
[08:17] <Enverex> gb_, It just seems to be reloading the pictures from the site every time I try and scroll and locks up every time it does it
[08:18] <gb_> i use abiword :)
[08:18] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: np
[08:18] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: *no and i did that last command
[08:19] <ardchoille42> Seveas, Is it possible to view http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/ in English?
[08:19] <Vandalay> nein
[08:19] <ardchoille42> :(
[08:19] <blade_> I hate to ask this question...but does anyone know of an IRC channel for windows XP support?
[08:19] <m`kay> mmmh, if i want to open a programm like kopete as the user schaf, i have to type su -c kopete schaf or?
[08:19] <AnkleBiter> !yamomissexy
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yamomissexy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Seveas> ardchoille42, it's the dutch Ubuntu website, why would it be available in english?
[08:19] <Seveas> !botabuse | AnkleBiter
[08:19] <ubotu> AnkleBiter: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:20] <gb_> blade_:  try #windows
[08:20] <ardchoille42> Seveas, Ok, I didn't know it was the Dutch Ubuntu site. Thanks
[08:20] <blade_> thanks..God that hurt to ask....
[08:20] <blade_> lol
[08:20] <Seveas> m`kay, su user -c somecommand
[08:20] <gb_> blade_:  btw
[08:20] <gb_> blade_:  it is winblows :)
[08:20] <Seveas> !windows | blade_
[08:20] <ubotu> blade_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:20] <m`kay> kopete: ERROR: Communication problem with kopete, it probably crashed.
[08:21] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz, someone got the ubuntu amd64 installed ?
[08:21] <Seveas> !someone| Pr0ph3t
[08:21] <ubotu> Pr0ph3t: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:21] <gb_> nite guys , ahve fun all
[08:21] <lamego> I did an I guess a lot of people
[08:21] <Pr0ph3t> ok
[08:22] <Pr0ph3t> I wanna know if I installed the amd64 ubuntu version I will have problems installing others programs
[08:22] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, do you know your essid? (the name of your wifi network)
[08:22] <Pr0ph3t> because nowadays the programs are compiled to 32 bit version
[08:22] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: i know ssid if thats the same thing
[08:22] <Seveas> Pr0ph3t, ubuntu apps are compiled for 64bit as well
[08:22] <lamego> most of the software which is available on the repositories is also compiled to 64 bits
[08:23] <Seveas> only proprietary mess won't work (flash for instance0
[08:23] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, what is the ssid?
[08:23] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: OstridgeWireless
[08:23] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: lol its my sirname
[08:24] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, sounds about right - try this command
[08:24] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid OstridgeWireless && sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:24] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: ok
[08:25] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, then if that tells you it bound to an IP then try browsing the net
[08:25] <fotoflo__> if im sshed into a session, and im also logged into the desktop, how can i use ssh to launch applications on the desktop?
[08:25] <MrMary> can i run x without a window manager
[08:25] <Seveas> MrMary, sure
[08:25] <goodgerster> MrMary: you can probably try, but it's rather stupid as you'll end up without windows
[08:26] <therapy> MrMary:  why should you
[08:26] <bruenig> to test it I guess
[08:26] <therapy> MrMary:  but of course, you can
[08:26] <MrMary> all i want is an enviroment were i can run multiple terminals
[08:26] <bruenig> tty
[08:26] <megatog615> Hi
[08:26] <megatog615> I have a question
[08:26] <bruenig> !hi | megatog615
[08:26] <goodgerster> mrmary, try pressing ctrl-alt-<fkey>
[08:26] <ubotu> megatog615: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:26] <megatog615> I just made a new partition for my home directory
[08:26] <megatog615> It works
[08:26] <megatog615> However
[08:26] <goodgerster> bruenig: I don't think you need to use the bot for that..
[08:26] <bruenig> !enter
[08:27] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:27] <bruenig> goodgerster, for what possible reason then would !hi exist
[08:27] <megatog615> Everything inside the home directory only takes 16.9G
[08:27] <megatog615> But the partition is 120G
[08:27] <goodgerster> bruenig: I don't know, it seems rather stupid
[08:27] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: nope it said nothing aboutIPs
[08:27] <megatog615> And it's 69% full...
[08:27] <bruenig> there is no other context where that could get use
[08:27] <bruenig> therefore, that is where it must be intended to be used
[08:28] <goodgerster> megatog615: use the disk usage analyser
[08:28] <feesh> woah, 1023 people :D can any of you help?
[08:28] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, what did it say?
[08:28] <goodgerster> !help | feesh
[08:28] <ubotu> feesh: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:28] <bruenig> !anyone
[08:28] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:28] <SecrethX> hi hi :)
[08:28] <megatog615> Where is the Disk Usage Analyser located?
[08:28] <SecrethX> im via bitchx because X doesnt work anymore lol :P
[08:28] <bruenig> lqtm
[08:29] <SecrethX> *pokes Khem*
[08:29] <goodgerster> megatog615: it's in accessories in edgy. you can also launch it by pressing Alt-F2 and typing baobab
[08:29] <feesh> I just suffered a power cut, and now X wont start for users, and apt-get install segfaults, anybody had a problem similar to this?
[08:29] <SecrethX> oh he isnt here anymore
[08:29] <Cyrus25801> could someone help me install a driver for a canon i250
[08:29] <goodgerster> megatog615: this will show you where the hidden shizz is
[08:29] <mrcucumber> #wiimote
[08:29] <bruenig> canon is troublesome
[08:29] <SecrethX> goodgersters imma go apologise to you ;P
[08:29] <goodgerster> SecrethX: wai?
[08:29] <SecrethX> I definitly hate beryl stuff right now and will wait untill 7.04 :)
[08:30] <Seveas> SecrethX, heh, blame nvidia/ati :)
[08:30] <SecrethX> ATi
[08:30] <Seveas> beryl on my intel gpu works like a charm
[08:30] <SecrethX> stupid drivers
[08:30] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: why
[08:30] <darek> hi omg i didit
[08:30] <darek> im from poland
[08:30] <bruenig> because they don't write drivers for linux
[08:30] <Seveas> SecrethX, yeah, ati divers suck
[08:30] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: the idots
[08:30] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, did you go to system>administration>printing and follow the prompts
[08:31] <goodgerster> seveas, it's the program itself, not the drivers. the drivers are fine, but the program is an exercise in anti-productivity, gimmickery and crashing
[08:31] <SecrethX> Seveas, you were from holland right?
[08:31] <mtyhome> does anybody mess around with networkmanager????
[08:31] <Seveas> SecrethX, were, am and will be for a while :)
[08:31] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: i dont follow
[08:31] <SecrethX> lol, long time no see :)
[08:31] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: something about DHCPDISCOVER 255.255.255.255 and bits like that then at the end it says DHCPOFFERS recieved
[08:31] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, you are on gnome?
[08:31] <SecrethX> its been a while since I last was here :)
[08:31] <megatog615> I actually deleted an old partition and then resized the new home partition to cover the whole drive
[08:31] <AnkleBiter> hjmills:  *no DHCPOFFERS recieved
[08:32] <goodgerster> mtyhome: typically it doesn't need messing about with, as it's designed to Just Work
[08:32] <AnkleBiter> hjmills:  actually scrap the no
[08:32] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: ok im a newbie. i dont know which im using
[08:32] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: lol
[08:32] <SecrethX> hmm
[08:32] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, hmm - odd - can you login to your router and check the wireless essid or wireless network name?
[08:32] <megatog615> And for some reason it takes up 102G of the partition
[08:32] <SecrethX> I hope I fixed my Xorg server again
[08:32] <Lululaglue_> hi o/
[08:32] <LazyAngel> Can someone with ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) and bluetooth give me the output of this command: cat /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf | grep pin_helper
[08:32] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, do you have three menus at the top left, applications, places. system
[08:32] <torbesh> i want to install gimpshop but i have some problem with glib
[08:32] <mtyhome> goodgerster, well mine does't work
[08:32] <SecrethX> so brb (again)
[08:32] <goodgerster> mtyhome: in what way?
[08:32] <megatog615> When the usage was only 23G before(i think)
[08:32] <torbesh> old version 2.12.4 exist and how can i remove that?
[08:32] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: yes i do
[08:32] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, or try going into the gnome networking program and see if that lists your network in the dropdown box when configuring the device
[08:32] <mtyhome> goodgerster, it hangs when trying to connect to a wifi lan
[08:33] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, right, go to System>Administration>Printing, then follow the wizard
[08:33] <torbesh> how can i remove glib 2.12.4 version?
[08:33] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: again im a noob so.... ya wot now?
[08:33] <goodgerster> mtyhome: I've never done any wifi stuff, please tell some output to someone who has - sorry
[08:33] <TtyS2> AnkleBiter: i would take a look at the lease time on dhcp as well, i seen before people put infinity on lease time
[08:34] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:34] <mtyhome> can somebody help me, network-manager doesn't work
[08:34] <AnkleBiter> TtyS2: i think mine is, does that make a difference lol
[08:34] <Pr0ph3t> me
[08:34] <TheInfinity> .oO((a highlight on infinity is sometimes a little strange ...)
[08:34] <goodgerster> Pr0ph3t: how can I help?
[08:35] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, do you know how to use the normal gnome preferences thing to set up a wireless network?
[08:35] <AnkleBiter> hjmills: errrrr nope
[08:35] <TtyS2> AnkleBiter: it sure does, when ever a new pc connects it gets a ip, once the pc has gone the ip is still sett on occupied, i normally sett them on lease time 3 days
[08:35] <mcdonaldswes> does anybody have experience running dapper on IBM LS21 series blades?
[08:36] <Shane-S> I have a question, I am on a windows domain, and I installed Samba as per http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605, when I see it in My Network Places, it prompts me for a username and password but it never takes. Any idea where I can start looking for what I did wrong?
[08:36] <torbesh> can anyone help me installing glib and gimpshop?
[08:36] <Shane-S> I made the workgroup equal to the domain (MTBE)
[08:36] <AnkleBiter> TtyS2: that means? should i change it to 2days
[08:36] <goosh> can someone help me take off these itchy pants?
[08:36] <omniti> Hi, i'm having problems with the apt-get update, connection are faling
[08:36] <SecrethX> goodgerster I managed to break xorg :)
[08:36] <Shane-S> our domain is MTBE or mantuaschools.lan for XP+
[08:36] <bruenig> omniti, what mirrors are you using?
[08:36] <mmcfeely> can anyone tell me how to disable X Server on Ubuntu so I can instll a Nvidia Driver?
[08:36] <goosh> sudo giantorgyin#ubunturoom
[08:36] <omniti> archive.ubuntu.com dapper
[08:36] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: you don't need to disable it
[08:36] <deltaray2> Are there any vmware workstation packages for Ubuntu Edgy?
[08:37] <goodgerster> SecrethX: well done, your initiation into the linux hacker circle is complete
[08:37] <mmcfeely> it says I have to in order to install
[08:37] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: it's lying
[08:37] <SecrethX> goodgerster LOL :p
[08:37] <mmcfeely> so what do I do
[08:37] <TtyS2> AnkleBiter: once the amount of computers reaches the range of addresses u sett no more can be given out, yes i would recommend that, and u might have to restart the dhcp server for it to be cleared afterwards
[08:37] <Zambezi> The best way to upgrade Dapperserver install to Edgy is? I'm not running X.
[08:37] <SecrethX> it says it can find/connect to a screen or something
[08:37] <omniti> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:37] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: you just install nvidia-glx, run the command to change your xorg.conf as specified, and press ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:37] <vcef> hi
[08:38] <bruenig> omniti, you can change the mirrors
[08:38] <omniti> connection fail
[08:38] <mmcfeely> okay lol Im a little new to this so bear with me if thats okay
[08:38] <vcef> I'm looking for a program which would create web gallery for me. I've tried gwenview and konqueror and I'm still not satisfied
[08:38] <bruenig> omniti, what country are you in?
[08:38] <mmcfeely> i got a .run file how would i get nvidia-glx
[08:38] <SecrethX> oh, brb
[08:38] <torbesh> how can i remove glib old version (2.12.4)?
[08:38] <vcef> could you please point me to some page which lists such programs?
[08:38] <goodgerster> zambezi: change "dapper" to "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list and then run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in that order
[08:39] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, hmm can you run "sudo iwlist scan > /media/floppy0/iwlist.txt" on your linux machine with a floppy in the drive then bring that floppy down here and open the iwlist.txt file on the floppy
[08:39] <mmcfeely> I type sh Nvidia-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[08:39] <omniti> Brazil
[08:39] <iturk> hello there gaim its crashing alone when i try to connect! in the command line its only information of how to report a bug and nothing else! what should i do ?
[08:39] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: refer to this page:
[08:39] <omniti> i'm using dapper
[08:39] <beanfarmer> hay there
[08:39] <bruenig> omniti, run sudo sed 's/archive/br.archive/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:39] <goodgerster> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 (stop when step 2 is finished)
[08:40] <Zambezi> goodgerster, I don't want X.
[08:40] <mtyhome> does anybody mess around with networkmanager????
[08:40] <mmcfeely> k ty
[08:40] <goodgerster> Zambezi: oh, good point. just the update and dist-upgrade bits then
[08:40] <slyfox> What do you people use for Quick Launching applicaitons ?
[08:40] <Zambezi> goodgerster, But is that a good idea?
[08:40] <goodgerster> Zambezi: it is if you want to upgrade to edgy...
[08:40] <bruenig> slyfox, keyboard shortcuts
[08:40] <alec> Network manager is not working for me :-(
[08:40] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: TtyS2:sorry about that the router rebooted when i changed that option
[08:40] <omniti> Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
[08:41] <omniti> still not working...
[08:41] <beanfarmer> hay guys does anyone know about the goals of Ubuntu?
[08:41] <anorexicpillow> lol
[08:41] <goodgerster> Zambezi: there is a GUI tool that does the whole lot for you, but for CLI you need to change the sources file, update and dist-upgrade yourself
[08:41] <slyfox> bruenig: is there a special program for that?
[08:41] <unravel> they want to take over the world >evil laugh<
[08:41] <anorexicpillow> to make linux a resonable standard for other humans
[08:41] <hjmills> AnkleBiter_, the essid option?
[08:41] <bruenig> omniti, maybe there is something wrong on your end, I am getting a ping from both of those addresses br and just regular
[08:41] <goodgerster> beanfarmer: yes, it's to provide an open-source operating system
[08:41] <beanfarmer> ok thanks guys
[08:41] <odnigmann> whatup
[08:41] <omniti> i can ping them too
[08:41] <goodgerster> odnigmann: sky, planes, birds, satellites
[08:42] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: no TtyS2 told me to change the lease time
[08:42] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:42] <beanfarmer> .exit
[08:42] <beanfarmer> sorry lol
[08:42] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, oh ok
[08:42] <odnigmann> why dont get ivs in airodump
[08:42] <bruenig> slyfox, well I am no xfce so keyboard shortcuts attached to commands is standard. You can add two packages xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config which will allow you to bind any key combination with any command and so from that just bind a combination with the command to launch a program.
[08:42] <bruenig> !xbindkeys
[08:42] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:42] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills:  so what do i do now
[08:42] <bruenig> !xbindkeys-xonfig
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbindkeys-xonfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <bruenig> !xbindkeys-config
[08:42] <ubotu> xbindkeys-config: An easy to use gtk program for configuring Xbindkeys.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 124 kB
[08:42] <Zambezi> goodgerster, Using the GUI is a better why, but since I don't want X it's hard.
[08:42] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, did you check the essid#/
[08:43] <elektronik123456> haj
[08:43] <TtyS2> hjmills: i suggested it might be a problem to be given new ip if lease time was sett on infinity
[08:43] <omniti> but update does not connect
[08:43] <odnigmann> someone use AIRODUMP?
[08:43] <goodgerster> Zambezi: do as I said then. people have been doing it this way since 1993. change "dapper" to "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:43] <elektronik123456> haj
[08:43] <elektronik123456> witam
[08:43] <goosh> lets all get naked yay
[08:43] <unravel> uh
[08:43] <elektronik123456> witam
[08:43] <elektronik123456> witam
[08:43] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: i cant find it
[08:43] <goodgerster> !flood | elektronik123456
[08:43] <ubotu> elektronik123456: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:43] <elektronik123456> witam
[08:43] <bruenig> omniti, ok well I am using us mirrors so see if those work, sudo sed -'s/br.archive/us.archive/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:44] <goodgerster> !spam | elektronik123456
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 there is no more suport for dapper?
[08:44] <elektronik123456> dzien dobry
[08:44] <bruenig> !botabuse | goodgerster
[08:44] <ubotu> goodgerster: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:44] <elektronik123456> halllo
[08:44] <elektronik123456> haj
[08:44] <hjmills> TtyS2, could be i guess but if his pc asks for a new ip the router should give him one and forget the old one
[08:44] <Vandalay> !wurst
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wurst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <slyfox> If I have script that I want to run at strtup, how do I make it to do so ?
[08:44] <goodgerster> omniti: dapper is the LTS release and is supported for a while
[08:44] <BlackMad> oh my god!
[08:44] <BlackMad> chaos!
[08:44] <goodgerster> bruenig: what's that for?
[08:45] <mcphail> slyfox: computer startup or GNOME startup?
[08:45] <TtyS2> hjmills: agrea unless he reached the mount of addresses sett for the scope
[08:45] <hjmills> AnkleBiter_, did you do that thing with the floppy i told you to?
[08:45] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: there is an option on the router to stop broadcasting essid
[08:45] <bruenig> goodgerster, don't pick random words out hoping they trigger something, if you don't know test it out in /msg, no !fishing
[08:45] <odnigmann> why i dont get IVs in airodump?
[08:45] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: was that the ndiswrapper, if so yes
 So, i don't want to take risks upgrading for another version...i just want to update :)
[08:45] <goodgerster> bruenig: there, wasn't that easier to say and a lot less impersonal?
[08:46] <goodgerster> omniti: quite understandable, edgy is a bit... edgy... anyway
[08:46] <bruenig> goodgerster, takes more typing
[08:46] <maax> bonjour
[08:46] <TtyS2> hjmills: if lease time is set to infinity, the dhcp wont free the used ip either
[08:46] <slyfox> mcphail: I have Kubuntu, and I want to run autofs program (the one that mounts drives automatically), This is what I usually run in the command line:  "sudo /etc/init.d/autofs restart"  how do I make Kubuntu run it automatically ?
[08:46] <bruenig> also is a bit funny to see it tell you to stop messing with it
[08:46] <goodgerster> slyfox, refer to #kubuntu
[08:46] <goodgerster> slyfox: but if it's in init.d then it should come up automatically
[08:47] <odnigmann> someone know a channel for WI-FI?
[08:47] <goodgerster> slyfox: check to see if it's already running before issuing restart
[08:47] <bruenig> odnigmann, this is it
[08:47] <SecrethX> goodgerster I got it back, but its all fucked up :/ do you know something for reinstalling/reconfiguring it?
 it still not working
[08:47] <odnigmann> bruenig :)
[08:47] <hjmills> TtyS2, good point
[08:47] <slyfox> goodgerster: It does kind of, but for some odd reason for it to atually mount my samba shares, I have to run the restart command for it
[08:47] <mcphail> slyfox: your question suggests it is running already?
[08:47] <mtyhome> nobody helps me?
[08:47] <goodgerster> SecrethX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[08:47] <hjmills> AnkleBiter_, no, ill resay it
[08:47] <hjmills> AnkleBiter, hmm can you run "sudo iwlist scan > /media/floppy0/iwlist.txt" on your linux machine with a floppy in the drive then bring that floppy down here and open the iwlist.txt file on the floppy
[08:47] <SecrethX> ok thx
[08:47] <bruenig> omniti, so I would assume then that it is on your end because the us mirrors are working here and you can't get any of the other mirrors either
[08:47] <slyfox> mcphail:  It does kind of, but for some odd reason for it to atually mount my samba shares, I have to run the restart command for it
 maybe a proxy problem with apt? Even though i don't use it
[08:47] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills:  ok
[08:47] <odnigmann> bruenig you use wifi?
[08:48] <goodgerster> slyfox: odd... sorry, can't help you much with init. I suggest you try the #kubuntu channel, they're good at kubuntu
[08:48] <bruenig> odnigmann, no
[08:48] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:48] <maax> can someone help me, i'm trying to mount my camera memory on ubuntu , dmesg see it but no icon is coming ...
[08:48] <slyfox> mcphail: This is the problem I have - last post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=519906&page=2
[08:48] <bruenig> goodgerster, init.d is OS neutral
[08:48] <bruenig> it doesn't matter what he is running
[08:48] <Enverex> Are there any alternatives to Open Office? It sucks badly.
[08:48] <denver> what is a cheap priced wireless card with good drivers for linux?
[08:48] <mcphail> slyfox: i'd search to see if a bug is filed. If not, you could try starting it with a cron job
[08:48] <hjmills> AnkleBiter_, im afraid i have to go - ill be back later :(
[08:48] <slyfox> goodgerster: It is probably not a KDE issue, but Ubuntu in general
 I know it is my end, but...where? or what? apt problem? cache?
[08:49] <bruenig> omniti, not sure, what sort of errors are you getting, does it just timeout or is it saying something?
[08:49] <slyfox> mcphail: cron job? Man I am a noob in Linux
[08:49] <SecrethX> lol goodgerster.. it says "not installed", when I try to install it, it says "no package found"
[08:49] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: ok
[08:49] <goodgerster> bruenig: you should enter on Mastermind, specialist subject The Bloody Obvious. however, it could easily be a conflict with Kubuntu's default configuration. hence, #kubuntu is a better place to discuss it
[08:49] <bruenig> SecrethX, that is because it is xserver-xorg not xorg-server
[08:49] <mmcfeely> goodgerster - does it install the correct driver for Nvidia for a laptop oris it a universal Driver?
[08:49] <mcphail> slyfox: it's worth a try. I can talk you through
[08:50] <SecrethX> thx bruenig, lol :P
[08:50] <bruenig> goodgerster, there isn't any chance of that being true
[08:50] <mike__> How do I determine my local ip address using terminal please?
[08:50] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: it's the nvidia driver, as denoted by its name (nvidia-glx)
 it says " Err http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial Release.gpg  connection fail."
[08:50] <goodgerster> bruenig: prove it, please
[08:50] <bruenig> omniti, is it that one or all of them because the commercial repo is different from the rest
[08:50] <mmcfeely> k bc I know Nvidia has different drivers for different models LIke I got A Nvidia Quadro NVS 120M
[08:50] <bruenig> init.d starts before the window manager
 then "Ign http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release"
[08:51] <maax> can someone help me to get my camera memory mounted ?
[08:51] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: no, there's only two drivers - one for very old cards and one for useful cards
[08:51] <mmcfeely> okay
[08:51] <slyfox> mcphail: Cna you please tell me how it works in general?
[08:51] <mmcfeely> thanks
[08:51] <omniti> all repositories
[08:51] <goodgerster> bruenig: I said the config, not the software
[08:51] <bruenig> omniti, I have never seen this nor had it happen to me so I don't know
[08:51] <mcphail> slyfox: which text editor do you like to use?
[08:51] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: i found a linux driver on the canon website http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0020547.asp but there are a few.which do i download?
 all, everything
[08:51] <daedra> hey I can see a harddruve in media:/ but "Permission Denied" ?!!
[08:51] <slyfox> mcphail: kate
[08:51] <bruenig> goodgerster, the config wouldn't come into play because the config wouldn't have been started
[08:51] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
 could be a lock at apt?
[08:52] <goodgerster> bruenig: I give up
[08:52] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, what happened when you went to System>Administration>Printing?
[08:52] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: i found a linux driver on the canon website http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0020547.asp but there are a few.which do i download?
 does it exists?
[08:52] <mcphail> slyfox: try this. Type "sudo -s" then "EDITOR=kate crontab -e -u root"
[08:52] <daedra> hey I can see a harddruve in media:/ but "Permission Denied" ?!!
[08:52] <camerong> hey -- for some reason even after disabling composite extension in xorg.conf i still cant use fglrx and its still displaying the composite extension error.. can anyone help me disable it ?
[08:52] <goodgerster> daedra: look in /etc/fstab for the appropriate hard disk, and change the last of the triple number bit on its line to 7
[08:52] <camerong> i want to use fglrx
[08:53] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: it was on a it was on imagerunner-330s so installed that because i couldn't see the driver for the i250
[08:53] <mike__> How do I determine my local ip address using terminal please?
[08:53] <goodgerster> mike__: "ifconfig eth0"
[08:53] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, and it didn't work?
[08:53] <Pici> mike__ : ifconfig
[08:53] <goodgerster> mike__: or similar...
[08:53] <mike__> thank you
[08:53] <slyfox> mcphail: Is that the comand "sudo -s kate crontab -e -u root" ?
[08:54] <Cyrus25801> tried to print but nothing happened
[08:54] <mcphail> slyfox: put a "return" between the sudo -s and the rest
[08:54] <mcphail> slyfox: (to get a root shell...)
[08:54] <mmcfeely> Hopefully it works got no errors yet brb
[08:54] <slyfox> mcphail: what is "return"
[08:54] <bruenig> slyfox, you don't need to do the editor export unless nano makes you crazy
[08:54] <daedra> goodgerster: I did as you advised, but the harddrive isn't listed in fstab
[08:54] <mcphail> slyfox: the ENTER key
[08:55] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: tried to print but nothing happened
[08:55] <goodgerster> daedra: that's odd. I can't help further than that, sorry..
[08:55] <camerong> can anyone help me get fglrx working? it gives errors related to composite rendering being on but it is explicitely set to disabled in my xorg.conf
[08:55] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, try some more of the drivers in there, see if you can get one working, canon is a pain. I always go with hp for just this reason
[08:55] <daedra> goodgerster: thats what QTParted is good for :)
[08:55] <slyfox> mcphail: Like this "sudo -s kate crontab -e -u root"
[08:55] <camerong> i have followed the wiki's tutorial
[08:55] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: thanx
[08:55] <bruenig> slyfox, sudo -s && crontab -e -u root
[08:56] <goodgerster> incidentally, if anyone has a good idea as to a HOWTO or review (possibly of an obscure program) I could post on my blog, please say so
[08:56] <slyfox> bruenig: did it, nothing happend
[08:56] <bruenig> slyfox, something had to have happened
[08:56] <slyfox> bruenig: nothing, what does this command mean and do ?
[08:56] <mcphail> slyfox: "sudo -s" teh press ENTER then "EDITOR=kate crontab -e -u root"
[08:57] <bruenig> the editor part is needlessly complex
[08:57] <LookTJ> :)
[08:57] <Tomatix> I've got a problem with network-manager-gnome... When I try to connect to my test-network with WPA-PSK, network-manager-gnome does not have any options for my WPA encryption.  What could be wrong?
[08:57] <mcphail> bruenig: he is a noob and likes kate
[08:57] <z0rz> I have Ubuntu 6.10 installed with Oracle-xe installed.. I'm trying to access the http://127.0.0.1:8080/apex page but I get a Page not found error.. and "Connection Refused" in links ... I have the local box set up as a NAT devices using iptables.  Does anyone know why I can't connect to the Oracle listener?
[08:57] <bruenig> but the commands are confusing him because of the editor
[08:57] <AnkleBiter_> Lattyware: hello
[08:58] <SecrethX> ehm.. goodgerster it fixed my login screen problem :P but not my real problem.. it looks like gnome isnt really loaded correctly, my _ O and X (closing resizing and stuff) arent showing up, and stuff like that :x
[08:58] <goodgerster> mcphail: perhaps he merely does not like to read a book the size of a router to use his text editor?
[08:58] <guest> Hi
[08:58] <camerong> can anyone help me with fglrx??
[08:58] <AnkleBiter_> Lattyware: ok but i gotta register
[08:58] <mcphail> goodgerster: sorry?
[08:58] <z0rz> Anyone?
[08:59] <slyfox> mcphail: this is what I have inside the txt file: "# m h  dom mon dow   command"
[08:59] <Cyrus25801> does anyone else maybe know of a way to install a driver for canon i250
[08:59] <goodgerster> mcphail: I was implying that emacs and vi are uselessly complex and unintuitive for new users, for whom Kate is fine
[08:59] <goodgerster> SecrethX: metacity isn't loading, you need to reverse the part of whatever guide you used to set GDM to beryl
[08:59] <mcphail> goodgerster: i would agree with you, hence the above command
[08:59] <mcphail> slyfox: copy and paste my next line as the first line in the file:
[09:00] <AnkleBiter_> Lattyware: it wont let me, it says unregistered users cant use pm due to spam, etc
[09:00] <Lunar_Lamp> goodgerster, further, if they need a command-line text editor, "nano" would be a suitable alternative. However I belive mcphail was showing how to set the EDITOR environment varialbe to reflect that.
[09:00] <mcphail> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[09:00] <SecrethX> goodgerster thats the point, I explicitly didnt use the commands that would do stuff like this, so I could do it myself manually
[09:00] <Lattyware> AnkleBiter_: Ah. Do so then, you know how, right?
[09:00] <z0rz> Anyone?
[09:00] <goodgerster> SecrethX: well, change GDM back to metacity then
[09:00] <AnkleBiter_> Lattyware: nope:P
[09:00] <SecrethX> goodgerster I didnt change it at all.. as a matter of fact, I dont even know what the hell gdm is =o
[09:00] <slyfox> mcphail: ok
[09:01] <goodgerster> SecrethX: it's the login screen program. it's responsible for launching metacity/beryl
[09:01] <slyfox> mcphail: I wish I had a lsight idea to what we are doing ? :-)
[09:01] <mcphail> slyfox: then have the last line as "@reboot /etc/init.d/whateveryourprogramis restart" without the quotation marks
[09:01] <juano__> does someone know why in win workgroup my ubuntu pc wont appear, but here in ubuntu i can see both pcs fine in workgroup?
[09:01] <goodgerster> SecrethX: at some point you affected it in some way to make it launch beryl instead of metacity... now you need to reduce this
[09:01] <juano__> i can connect though to the ubuntu pc in win writing \\ubuntupcname
[09:01] <juano__> at first it appears, but then it dissappears after a while
[09:01] <SecrethX> goodgerster is there any file I could edit ?
[09:02] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yes, whatever files you edited before :P sorry
[09:02] <SecrethX> goodgerster  lol :P
[09:02] <TtyS2> juano__ using winxp?
[09:02] <mcphail> slyfox: leave a blank line at the end of the file, save it and close kate
[09:02] <juano__> TtyS2: yes
[09:02] <omniti> my apt.conf is " Acquire::http::Proxy "false"; " is that correct?
[09:02] <SecrethX> goodgerster ill try to start x in recovery mode so I can access my bookmarks..
[09:02] <goodgerster> omniti: depends whether you have a proxy or not
[09:02] <z0rz> I have Ubuntu 6.10 installed with Oracle-xe installed.. I'm trying to access the http://127.0.0.1:8080/apex page but I get a Page not found error.. and "Connection Refused" in links ... I have the local box set up as a NAT devices using iptables.  Does anyone know why I can't connect to the Oracle listener?
[09:03] <slyfox> mcphail:
[09:03] <slyfox> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[09:03] <slyfox> @reboot /etc/init.d/autofs restart
[09:03] <slyfox> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[09:03] <therapy> how can i prevent /PP
 no i don't have, my apt-get does not work
[09:03] <mcphail> slyfox: make sure there is a blank line at the end of the file
[09:03] <slyfox> mcphail: liek so ?
[09:03] <goodgerster> omniti: in what way?
[09:03] <TtyS2> juano__: corrected tcp/ip in the wins setting to activate netbios over tcp/ip ?
[09:03] <juano__> TtyS2: i dunno, from here in ubuntu i can see both pcs fine all the time, but from windows i can see both too at first, then after like 10 min or so my ubuntu pc vanishes from workgroup, though it still appears when i browse the network under ubuntu, it just vanishes browsing under win XP after 10 min
[09:04] <z0rz> Hello?
[09:04] <slyfox> mcphail: before "# m h  dom mon dow   command" or after ?
[09:04] <goodgerster> z0rz: if nobody answers, nobody knows
 connection fail. it does not connect to any repositories
[09:04] <z0rz> Alright, thanks
[09:04] <wezzie> !nvidia
[09:04] <juano__> TtyS2: yes, netbios is active over tcp/ip
[09:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <goldbond> hey. i am trying to specify port 2200 for an ssh session. what is the correct syntax?
[09:04] <mcphail> slyfox: after
[09:04] <juano__> TtyS2:  i am ICS from winxp to the ubuntu pc
[09:05] <goodgerster> omniti: do you have AOL? do you have a working internet connection to the PC involved? can you ping google from said PC? have you got a firewall or such program installed?
[09:05] <z0rz> over 1000 people in here.. no one knows.. So no one was able to get oracle-xe running?
[09:05] <slyfox> mcphail: ok, done, next?
[09:05] <TtyS2> juano__: the fw in xp activated?
[09:05] <goodgerster> z0rz: presumably nobody has tried
[09:05] <mcphail> slyfox: does the terminal say something like "crontab written" when you close kate?
[09:05] <goodgerster> z0rz: tbh the chance of someone having specialist troubleshooting knowledge of Oracle software is quite a bit less than 1/1015
 i can navegate, i can ping google, and I have firestarter installed but not running
[09:06] <slyfox> mcphail: nope, I have this crontab: installing new crontab
[09:06] <mmcfeely> woot my video card drivers installed now just to get wifi
[09:06] <mcphail> slyfox: that's the one! (i'm doing this from memory... :))
[09:06] <z0rz> oracle-xe is arguable the most popular db system there is... and I'm just trying to get it installed.. it's not like I'm working on the source code of it or anything
[09:06] <slyfox> mmcfeely: get neworkmanager
[09:06] <juano__> TtyS2: not for local area network, only for ADSL ethernet card
[09:06] <mmcfeely> link
[09:06] <slyfox> mcphail: can you please tell me waht we did and waht does it do ?
[09:06] <goodgerster> omniti: can you ping the APT server in question?
[09:06] <mmcfeely> will it work with intel abg wireless notebook
 if i can ping the repository?
[09:07] <goodgerster> omniti: indeed
[09:07] <mcphail> slyfox: the cron program executes command at times you specify. "@reboot" means "do this command when the computer starts up"
[09:07] <mmcfeely> Heres the problem I can see wireless essids but I can not connect to any secured or not secured
[09:07] <z0rz> dmddmd
[09:08] <mcphail> slyfox: the "crontab" program allows you to tell cron which programs to run
 just a sec
[09:08] <slyfox> mcphail: should I restart now and see if it works ?
[09:08] <yrana1980> what is the best ubuntu product can any one help me in this ?
 yes, 0% loss on archive.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <mcphail> slyfox: cross your fingers and try it
[09:08] <goldbond> i am trying to find out how to swich ports for an ssh session. surprisingly google is not helpful. if someone knows how, i would appreiciate it. thanks
[09:08] <TtyS2> juano__: out of idea, those 2 things and misspelling of workgroup are the common things when it comes to xp, having the same sett upp with no trouble although i disabled the xp fw completly due to he fact that i got a better fw
[09:08] <b0ef> ehlo, is argouml available in ubuntu?. I can't see it when I use apt-cache search, but it gives some output
[09:08] <juano__> TtyS2: this also happens beetween windows and windows, when i boot to windows from this pc, the first ten minutes of browsing , everything seems fine, then, this pc vanishes from network, but i can always access it by typing \\pcname, its just odd that it wouldnt appear in my network places
[09:08] <goodgerster> omniti: please pastebin the output from apt-get update
[09:09] <jimfear> hi... one of my disks doesn't show up in ubuntu, I think it hasn't been formatted yet... where do I find the partition manager so I can format it?
[09:09] <mmcfeely> goodgerster you wouldn't hqave a page for help with ipw3945-1.1.0 would you?
[09:09] <slyfox> mcphail: ok, thank you. Will be back.
[09:09] <goodgerster> jimfear: you need to install said partition manager, its package is called gparted
[09:09] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: er, no. although google probably does
[09:09] <omniti> sudo apt-get update
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial Release.gpg
[09:09] <omniti>   Conexo falhou.
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[09:09] <omniti>   Conexo falhou. [IP: 195.248.90.35 80] 
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[09:09] <mmcfeely> k ty
[09:09] <LjL> Ubotu, tell omniti about paste | omniti, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:09] <jimfear> okay, i just thought it was included since i could use it during the install
[09:09] <jimfear> but i'll try, thanks
[09:10] <goodgerster> !pastebin | omniti
[09:10] <ubotu> omniti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <SecrethX> Okay, got it running in recovery mode..
[09:10] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yay
[09:10] <TtyS2> juano__: u got a browsing problem in the win group, what u could do is to use the host file but that would include putting static ip on the computers u wish to reach
[09:10] <AnkleBiter_> say ay!! if your looking forward to Ubuntu Studio!!!
[09:10] <SecrethX> goodgerster, but not in real mode ;P
[09:10] <AnkleBiter_> ay!!
[09:10] <goodgerster> ay!!
[09:10] <omniti> sorry
[09:10] <bartmon> hi
[09:10] <bjames> Ubuntu Studio?
[09:10] <omniti> just a sec
[09:10] <SecrethX> ubuntu studio?
[09:11] <goodgerster> an audiovisual editing version of ubuntu
[09:11] <AnkleBiter_> www.ubuntustudio.com
[09:11] <juano__> TtyS2: yea, i tried editing lmhosts and hosts, except im using DHCP thats a prob yea
[09:11] <SecrethX> :o ok
[09:11] <LjL> omniti: the server might just be temporarily down. anyone noticed archive.ubuntu.com being down?
[09:11] <goodgerster> low-latency kernel, lots of audio stuff, video stuff etc etc ad probable nauseum
[09:11] <bjames> has anyone here used wxWidgets with kDevelop?
[09:11] <TtyS2> juano__: not if your the administrator and can exclude a range
[09:11] <ubuntu_> hoi
[09:11] <goodgerster> bjames: more likely on #kubuntu, I'm afraid
[09:12] <SecrethX> well, goodgerster do you have any suggestions for me? ;p
[09:12] <bartmon> I'm having issues understanding a condition in a shell script. Can someone explain what this is supposed to mean: if [ "$INMASK" = "" -a "$1" != "stop" ] ; then ? Thanks
[09:12] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: are you back?
[09:12] <juano__> TtyS2: i should make like a 2 ip range
[09:12] <goodgerster> SecrethX: fraid not, I'm in the middle of a syllable review atm
[09:12] <ubuntu_> do you can install a live disk to your harddisk?
[09:12] <SecrethX> goodgerster, oh have fun, lol
 just a sec
[09:12] <jontec> is there any reason that my computer's colors switch between like 24 color depth to like 12 ( I dunno.... colors look BAD) amd64, Radeon Xpress 1150
[09:12] <goodgerster> ubuntu_: yes, this is how ubuntu is installed nowadays
[09:12] <goodgerster> omniti: ?
[09:13] <TtyS2> juano__: no 1 is good enough, saying from 100-200 then u can use static from 50-80 on units, say 10-20 on servers, 21-30 on printers
[09:13] <SecrethX> goodgerster, trying normal mode now, I reversed everything on that site
[09:13] <ubuntu_> anybody spreak dutch?
[09:14] <SecrethX> ubuntu_, #ubuntu-nl
[09:14] <AnkleBiter_> ubuntu_: i speak a bit of german
[09:14] <TtyS2> juano__: and i recommend lease time 3 days on the range 100-200
[09:14] <goodgerster> SecrethX: ok
[09:14] <orangey> hey all.
[09:14] <SecrethX> AnkleBiter_, dutch != german :P
[09:14] <ubuntu_> no dutch? nederlands
[09:14] <MasterLexx> right
[09:14] <AnkleBiter_> lol
[09:14] <MasterLexx> ich wei es
[09:14] <SecrethX> ubuntu_, ga naar #ubuntu-nl
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2567/
[09:14] <SecrethX> anyway, brb now
[09:14] <whil> i have a major ip problem anyone have a minute?
[09:15] <orangey> I'm having a particular problem with my screen blanking.. As soon as anything happens in acpi (i.e., thermal zone change), then the screen gets reactivated.. any ideas on how to debug this?
[09:15] <AnkleBiter_> du bist gay!!! hahahahaha....ahh that was crap.....
[09:15] <TtyS2> juano__: but u got a range of possible errors on the win computers, ranging from wins to dns to browser sett incorrectly
[09:15] <goodgerster> I suppose "Conexo falhou" means connection failed..
 yes
[09:15] <slyfox> mcphail: !!!
[09:15] <leobloo2> yess good
[09:16] <adamwest> anyone here
[09:16] <leobloo2> are you Portuguese??=o)
[09:16] <slyfox> mcphail: It worked ! Super, thank you very much !
[09:16] <omniti> I'm brazilian
[09:16] <goodgerster> omniti: I've no idea why that's happened. try googling for a sources.list generator
[09:16] <mcphail> slyfox: :)
[09:16] <adamwest> i'm having problems with my iaudio x5 ...
[09:16] <ubuntu_> some one coming out the UK?
[09:16] <none-> Hi
[09:16] <slyfox> mcphail: Is there somewhere I can read about what we just did, I really want to learn it myself so that I know how to do it next time
[09:16] <mcphail> slyfox: you should still consider filing a bug. What i told you is an ugly hack
[09:16] <AnkleBiter_> can anyone help me set up my wifi network
[09:17] <bartmon> Any shell scripters in here?
[09:17] <slyfox> AnkleBiter_: just get network manager and that should do it
[09:17] <mcphail> slyfox: "man 5 crontab" is a good start
[09:17] <ubuntu_> some one spreak RUSSISCH?
[09:17] <ubuntu_> roija
[09:17] <AnkleBiter_> slyfox, is that built into ubuntu?
[09:17] <slyfox> mcphail: Should I google that? - "man 5 crontab"
[09:17] <leobloo2> guys do you know whtere installing icewm on ubuntu wiill cut away  the possibility to download stuff from ubuntu repos? I 'm not sure compatibility is good enough =o/
[09:18] <SzArAk> slyfox: no, write it in a console
[09:18] <rob_p> bartmon: What do you need?
[09:18] <bartmon> rob_p: What does the -a condition in this statement do: [ "$INMASK" = "" -a "$1" != "stop"]   ???
[09:18] <mcphail> slyfox: just type it in in a terminal
[09:18] <slyfox> AnkleBiter_: Ubunut has wireless assistant which does not suport WPA but works, Get Network Manager and that should solve all hte issues. Get it from synaptic
[09:18] <slyfox> mcphail: nice, ok
[09:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, im never ever gonna use beryl again :/
[09:18] <slyfox> mcphail: Whank you very much.
[09:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, metacity still isnt loaded :x
[09:18] <goodgerster> SecrethX: good idea
[09:19] <z0rz> So where are the oracle log files normally at?
[09:19] <z0rz> nothing in /var/log that I can see
[09:19] <rob_p> bartmon: the -a is a shell built-in.  I think it means file exists but lemmie check...
[09:19] <goodgerster> shit, gtg
[09:19] <AnkleBiter_> secrethX, why?  is it seriously slow or just annoying?
[09:19] <mcphail> slyfox: what a typo...
[09:19] <bartmon> Yeah, i know that. It's deprecated by -e but that staments makes no sense to me
[09:19] <slyfox> mcphail: typo ?
[09:19] <SecrethX> AnkleBiter_, its because it just fucked up whole ubuntu :) xorg was fucked up, metacity wont load, etc
[09:20] <slyfox> mcphail: Uh !!!
[09:20] <AnkleBiter_> lol
[09:20] <slyfox> mcphail: Sorry ! :-) I mean Thank You very much !!! sorry about the typo :-)
[09:20] <rellik_> what's a good mp3 player for linux?  I want something with a music organizer like iTunes (preferrably) or winamp
[09:20] <mcphail> slyfox: ;p
[09:20] <LjL> !language | SecrethX
[09:20] <ubotu> SecrethX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:20] <seanh> Was wondering how totem, gxine, ogle and mplayer compare to totem-xine which I currently use for watching DVDs in Edgy? Which is the best way to watch DVDs in Edgy? Totem-xine freezes on me fairly often, maybe a faulty DVD drive, maybe a bug. maybe scratched DVDs
[09:20] <SecrethX> sorry LjL  ;o
[09:20] <bartmon> rob_p: I have no idea in what context -a is being used there. It looks like a logical operator because it's in between two logical statements
[09:20] <rob_p> bartmon: Yeah, it seems a little vague.  But yes, the -a means file exists.
[09:21] <bipolar> rellik_: Amarok
[09:21] <bartmon> f00kin firestarter! >:(
[09:21] <vonk> hi guys
[09:22] <vonk> i've got a prolly stupid question for ya guys
[09:22] <rellik_> bipolar, do you have to run kde for amarok?
[09:22] <adamwest> i'm having problems with my IAUDIO... it won't show the real free space it has
[09:22] <bipolar> rellik_: no
[09:22] <rellik_> bipolar, thanks I'll check it out
[09:22] <deafboy> how do i give azureus rights to write to it's directory?
[09:22] <deafboy> its installed in opt
[09:23] <pwuertz>  /server irc.quakenet.org
[09:23] <bartmon> deafboy: Az should only write in your home directory
[09:23] <vonk> i've got a problem playing shockwave flash files online
[09:23] <bartmon> deafboy: That's where it's configuration should be stored
[09:24] <deafboy> bartmon: it's trying to update and it can't write to opt
[09:24] <vonk> i've tried installing amazing media browser, but it doesn't make a difference
[09:24] <deafboy> bartmon: to update it's core
[09:24] <mark__o> !clone
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <mark__o> !backup
[09:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:24] <mark__o> !cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[09:24] <mmcfeely> what would be the easiest way yo build and install a ieee80211 subsystem
[09:24] <LjL> !close is <alias> cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:24] <LjL> !clone is <alias> cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:25] <bartmon> deafboy: It seems strange that AZ wants to save it's components outside your home directory
[09:25] <mark__o> ooh cool bot
[09:25] <bartmon> deafboy: are there any errors reported?
[09:26] <mark__o> are you talking about Azureus
[09:26] <bartmon> yes
[09:26] <mark__o> It's so hard to update
[09:26] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[09:26] <mark__o> Needs admin privs
[09:26] <deafboy> says it doesn't have access writes to write to /opt/azureus
[09:26] <grout> what are everyones favorite php linux web apps like ampache or phpsysinfo etc.......
[09:26] <deafboy> so it fails to update
[09:26] <mark__o> i know
[09:26] <mark__o> anything better than az
[09:26] <SoulChild> HEY, my Ubuntu boots in 39 seconds (bootchart) is that good?
[09:26] <mark__o> or a good workaround?
[09:26] <SoulChild> i want it to boot as fast as possible
[09:27] <adamwest> ANYONE? :\
[09:27] <bartmon> deafboy: If you want it to update into that folder you should run AZ as root, e.g. "sudo azureus &"
[09:28] <mark__o> bartmon: az opens a helper app to update, and that does not have root, so update fails anyway
[09:28] <gustaf_> I want to connect to a WPA-secured wireless network at boot, any pointers? using edgy
[09:28] <bartmon> Then I guess you could temporarily shange permissions for that folder so others can write to that directory
[09:29] <mark__o> good idea
[09:29] <rob_p> bartmon: The -a produces syntactical errors no matter how I try to adjust it.  I think what the user intended was, "&&" instead of the -a.
[09:29] <rob_p> bartmon: If that was the case, then the following will work, "if [[ "$INMASK" == "" && "$1" != "stop" ] ] ; then..."
[09:29] <deafboy> bartwon: i just changed ownership from root to me
[09:29] <bartmon> rob_p: The script executes though... Because the echo statement inside the if block executes
[09:30] <mark__o> so I'm in the live cd. How do I run the "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" on a target hard disk
[09:30] <_Odin_> chile
[09:30] <bartmon> deafboy: that should work as well, yes
[09:30] <rob_p> bartmon: Interesting!  I couldn't make it work here.
[09:30] <bartmon> after the updating you should set the ownership back to root
[09:30] <deafboy> bartwon: so the command "sudo azureus" says command not found
[09:30] <_Odin_> #chile
[09:30] <deafboy> bartwon: is that because it isn't stored in /usr/bin?
[09:31] <mtyhome> does anybody mess around with networkmanager????
[09:31] <deafboy> mtyhome: i use connection manager :)
[09:32] <mmcfeely> how can I get my Viideo card to go past 54 Refresh
[09:32] <mtyhome> deafboy, any had any problems with wifi?
[09:32] <deafboy> mmcfeely: change xorg.conf
[09:32] <deafboy> mtyhome: nope
[09:32] <bartmon> deafboy: first do "sudo chown deafboy /opt/azureus/" then start azureus, let it update and later do "sudo chown root /opt/azureus/"
[09:32] <mmcfeely> k ty
[09:32] <deafboy> bartwon: thx :)
[09:32] <mtyhome> deafboy, nevermind then
[09:32] <mmcfeely> mtyhome I still can't get my wifi to work properly
[09:32] <z0rz> I tried to do apt-get isntall mailutils but I get  mailutils: Depends: libgnutls12 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable \n E: Broken packages
[09:32] <deafboy> mtyhome: what are your issues?
[09:33] <sidny4> mtyhome: I've tried network manager once, didn't get my wireless to work right with it so I just used network-admin
[09:33] <deafboy> bartwon: i just realized "chown" stood for CHANGE OWNER lol
[09:33] <ardchoille42> lol
[09:33] <z0rz> If I try to isntall libgnutls12 by itself I get: E: Package libgnutls12 has no installation candidate
[09:33] <mtyhome> it seems to hang while trying to connect to a wlan
[09:33] <mmcfeely> yea me 2
[09:33] <nomego> how do I specify dependencies for a package with checkinstall ?
[09:33] <deafboy> mtyhome: security on it?
[09:33] <mmcfeely> I tried it with and without security
[09:33] <mtyhome> tried both, just the freaking same
[09:34] <sidny4> mtyhome: same problem I had, so I quit using it, not sure if it just didn't like ndiswrapper or what
[09:34] <bartmon> rob_p: It seems that script is seriously broken. I just so happens I can't uninstall a program because of it! :(
[09:34] <deafboy> mtyhome: what are you using to type the SSID in?
[09:34] <mtyhome> deafboy, a keyboard?
[09:34] <bartmon> deafboy: Yeah, some commands are pretty descriptive forunately
[09:34] <mmcfeely> lol
[09:35] <mtyhome> sidny4, what do you use?
[09:35] <deafboy> mtyhome: i mean are you typing it in "networking" or another program?
[09:35] <deafboy> bartwon: what's chroot mean?
[09:35] <mtyhome> deafboy, i'm typing that in nm-applet
[09:35] <deafboy> bartwon: change root?
[09:35] <bartmon> deafboy: Yes
[09:35] <deafboy> what's the +x flag?
[09:35] <sidny4> mtyhome: network-admin, it's found under system > administration > network
[09:36] <deafboy> mtyhome: nm? network manager?
[09:36] <mouarf> hello, i'm having a problem installing ubuntu (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/28925) and I just don't get how to modifiy xorg.conf as I can't find it in ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:36] <mtyhome> sidny4, i don't like that, it's too slow
[09:36] <mtyhome> i want something like network manager
[09:36] <pretende1> anyone help please? i am using ubuntu 6.10 edgy 64-bit version and i can not watch movie! because the sound and movie are not synchronized and i don't know how to synchronize them.
[09:36] <bartmon> deafboy: / is the normal root folder but if you mount another linux system to repair it you can change the root folder and execute commands respective to the new root
[09:36] <bartmon> deafboy: man chroot :)
[09:36] <sidny4> mtyhome: umm, only other thing I use is iwconfig
[09:37] <sidny4> mtyhome: but that's from the terminal only
[09:37] <ardchoille42> mouarf, !xorg shows you how to modify xorg.conf
[09:37] <deafboy> bartwon: w00t, do you know to get a list of processes from terminal? sometimes wine crashes on me :(
[09:37] <mtyhome> sidny4, yea i also used that
[09:37] <matjan> hi, when using mkdosfs to change the volume name of a fat partition, does that wipe the whole file system, does that stay intact?
[09:37] <mouarf> !xorg
[09:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:37] <deafboy> mtyhome: do you have a wireless and wired card?
[09:37] <mtyhome> sidny4, but it's a pain in the ass every freaking time i have to switch to another ap
[09:38] <mtyhome> deafboy, yes
[09:38] <deafboy> mtyhome: intel 915?
[09:38] <sidny4> mtyhome: that's true
[09:38] <mtyhome> deafboy, no i have a airvast which uses prism_usb drivers
[09:38] <whatspy> hi, I've just set some environment variables in /etc/environment (PYTHONPATH) to be more precise, and now, when will they take effect, system-wide ?
[09:39] <mtyhome> deafboy, so i wanted to use nm with ndiswrapper
[09:39] <ardchoille42> Is there a problem with http://ubuntuforums.org/ ATM?
[09:39] <deafboy> mtyhome: sorry i can't help you, i use connection manager and the standard network app
[09:39] <pretende1> anyone help please? i am using ubuntu 6.10 edgy 64-bit version and i can not watch movie! because the sound and movie are not synchronized and i don't know how to synchronize them.
[09:39] <deafboy> ardchoille42: yes i have the same issue
[09:40] <mtyhome> do some of you guys know an app for wifi which works with prism drivers?
[09:40] <Vanja> Can anyone private message me? I need some help/info regarding the ubuntu installation process.
[09:40] <cute_bettong> can anyone tell me if there is an app for msn or yim that will let you use a webcam in linux
[09:40] <cute_bettong> will yahoo or amsn work?
[09:40] <AlexC_> Vanja: just ask the question in here!
[09:40] <Vanja> okay
[09:41] <cute_bettong> the webcam works fine
[09:41] <AlexC_> cute_bettong: aMSN supports webcam in Gnome, or Koppete in KDE
[09:41] <cute_bettong> yes ^_^
[09:41] <cute_bettong> thank you
[09:41] <AlexC_> cute_bettong: your welcome
[09:41] <Vanja> well i decided to go ahead and install Ubuntu, (6.10 from livecd) and i clicked install on desktop.
[09:41] <Vanja> then i went through the steps and got to the partitioning part, and im pretty insecure about what to do :S
[09:42] <Vanja> cosi  dont wanna format the wrong drive or anything :S
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: do you want to dual boot with Windows?
[09:42] <Vanja> Yes
[09:42] <Khem> Warning, couldn't open module wfb
[09:42] <Khem> (II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
[09:42] <Khem> (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:42] <Khem> is someone else seeing this problem
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: Ok, I don't know the exact wording, but on the partion screen select "resize and format partiion"
[09:42] <Vanja> okay done
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: actually, could you list the options given please?
[09:42] <Vanja> one sec
[09:42] <adaptr> Khem: what are you trying to do ?
[09:43] <pretende1> how can I watch a movie in ubuntu 6.10?
[09:43] <adaptr> heh
[09:43] <AlexC_> !restricted | pretende1
[09:43] <ubotu> pretende1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <Khem> adaptr: beryl on nVidia just looked into X log
[09:43] <adaptr> Khem: and what did you need that module for ?
[09:44] <Khem> and saw this warning did nt know what that meant
[09:44] <adaptr> Khem: disable the module, I'd say
[09:44] <Khem> as its a warning I guess I am not much bothered
[09:44] <adaptr> well, it's not a wrning if it starts with EE
[09:44] <stephans> so how do i connect to a vista machine using rdp??????? tdesktop ... I cant get it to work
[09:44] <Khem> its a WW
[09:44] <adaptr> EE by definition causes Xorg to die
[09:44] <stephans> i mean rdesktop
[09:45] <AlexC_> Xorg died? poor Xorg
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: rdesktop
[09:45] <g333k_work> hello I'm trying to compile something and I got this error: any clue to solve that?
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_open@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_close@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_catch_error@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[09:45] <AlexC_> !paste g333k_work
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste g333k_work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <wezzie> i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown file
[09:45] <AlexC_> !pastebin g333k_work
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: it's not rocket science.. what did you do ?
[09:45] <stephans> i tred rdesktop....
[09:45] <AlexC_> oooo Ubotu is being slow again
[09:45] <Khem> g333k_work: hmmm your glibc seems to be borked
[09:45] <g333k_work> Khem, how do I solve that?
[09:45] <Vanja> okay alexc, right after then name and stuff i got 2 options "Erase whole drive (drive name here)"
[09:45] <Vanja> or "Edit the partition table"
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: you'll have to do better than that... I have no idea what's in your head or on your screen, do I ?
[09:45] <stephans> adaptr: i tried gnome rdp and tsclient
[09:46] <adaptr> AlexC_: no it isn;t - you're typoing
[09:46] <wezzie> what could be the problem
[09:46] <adaptr> !paste | g333k_work
[09:46] <ubotu> g333k_work: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <Khem> g333k_work: are you able to get a console
[09:46] <g333k_work> Khem, yep
[09:46] <AlexC_> adaptr: woops, forgot the | :P
[09:46] <stephans> adaptr: i think that it needs some kind of preauth
[09:46] <AlexC_> Vanja: is there no Resize and format/partiton?
[09:46] <Khem> what did u do to fail
[09:46] <puchat3k> i have problems with encoding over ssh using xterm. when using konsole with encoding iso8859-2 everything's fine. how do fix this in xterm?
[09:46] <adaptr> stephans: not at all, but you need to provide the right data - hostname, username, (domain), password
[09:47] <stephans> adaptr: I can connect fine to all xp machines
[09:47] <AlexC_> Vanja: also, my name is AlexC_ not AlexC - please use AlexC_ cos then it alerts me and highlights the message so I know you'ev replied :P
[09:47] <Vanja> well i think its the same, but its cos i changed the language to danish so im translating.
[09:47] <Vanja> give me a min or two, ill log out change gnome language. might be easier
[09:47] <adaptr> stephans: so there is no problem ?
[09:47] <Vanja> oh yeah i noticed
[09:47] <g333k_work> Khem, I was compiling FL_TeacherTool
[09:47] <stephans> adaptr: so... whats the trick?
[09:47] <AlexC_> Vanja: ok,
[09:47] <Vanja> so brb
[09:47] <Byan> my azureus keeps disappearing...
[09:48] <Byan> anyone know how to fix?
[09:48] <vonk> anyone knows much about flash player and ubuntu?
[09:48] <AlexC_> Byan: no, but I had the same problem and it's annoying!
[09:48] <AlexC_> vonk: yes, it plays Flash files,
[09:48] <DARKGuy> Azureus is bugged.
[09:48] <ardchoille42> Byan, Elaborate, "dissappearing"? The app closes?
[09:48] <stephans> adaptr: there is no problem connecting to xp machines but vista machines do not accept rdesktop
[09:48] <AlexC_> ardchoille42: yes, it just opens then closes
[09:48] <DARKGuy> At least, if you kill X while it's running, unless you delete your downloaded torrents and the .azureus folder, it won't come back >:/
[09:48] <adaptr> stephans: ah, well, that's probably it then
[09:49] <DARKGuy> And 'cause of that, it's no use
[09:49] <ardchoille42> AlexC_, Byan  Tried starting it from the terminal and see if there is any error output?
[09:49] <adaptr> stephans: can XP machines connect to blehista ?
[09:49] <stephans> adaptr:any ideas.... yes mstsc.exe works..
[09:49] <vonk> AlexC_:  i try to run flash thingies from the internet in firfox, and i get an error stating in need to update flash player, next one that says it cannot update flashplayer
[09:49] <wezzie> im have trouble viewing a .rm file. i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown fileformat. what could be the problem
[09:49] <vonk> but i just installed the latest :/
[09:49] <Byan> ardchoille42: just disappears, it closes
[09:49] <stephans> adaptr: rdesktop does not
[09:50] <Byan> uhm..
[09:50] <adaptr> stephans: rdesktop does not have RDP 5.2 yet, which XP does
[09:50] <adaptr> stephans: bug the developers, or help out yourself :)
[09:50] <Byan> ardchoille42:  http://rafb.net/p/U6BvcV94.html
[09:50] <Rprp`>   Bam-bam Blackhuntr ChanServ Duiv Eggdrop Kurt madman Masterpimp Rprp Twofists Wesleysld|SsLlAaPpTt Whoopie [TypeInc] 
[09:50] <DARKGuy> wtf?
[09:50] <AlexC_> vonk: you recently installed Flash 9?
[09:50] <Vanja> im back
[09:50] <Khem> g333k_work: it seems it is refering to a different version of library is it precompiled package ?
[09:50] <Vanja> with english language on gnome
[09:50] <adaptr> ops, probably
[09:50] <sidny4> I have xfce installed, will sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop close it?
[09:50] <vonk> AlexC_:  yes, from the macromedia website
[09:50] <Vanja> ill just go through the steps again
[09:51] <vonk> installed and restarted firefox
[09:51] <AlexC_> vonk: hold on,
[09:51] <AlexC_> Vanja: ok,
[09:51] <stephans> adaptr: any idea where tose pesky developers are hiding? ;=)
[09:51] <adaptr> !rdesktop
[09:51] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[09:51] <Jowi> sidny4, if you use gdm, yes
[09:51] <vonk> okay AlexC_, you may reply in private, tx allready
[09:51] <sidny4> Jowi: how do I know what I'm using?
[09:51] <grout> when a process is sleeping, what does that mean?
[09:51] <AlexC_> vonk: I'll reply in here.
[09:51] <Dave> Hi, When I am burning the disk to run it from the disk, do i just burn it in its compressed format?
[09:51] <Seveas> grout, that it's tire
[09:51] <grout> lol
[09:52] <Byan> grout: it isn't using an CPU usage
[09:52] <Byan> any*
[09:52] <AlexC_> vonk: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[09:52] <grout> ah
[09:52] <Jowi> sidny4, ps -A | grep gdm
[09:52] <mzanfardino> I need help configuring my keyboard. Currently my right-alt does not appear to be working. I know there is a keyboard section in xorg.conf. where can I find information about the options available so I can setup my keyboard to work for me?
[09:52] <wezzie> is there any other thing i need to view a rm movie
[09:52] <stephans> ubotu: I am using the latest rdesktop by ubuntu
[09:52] <FooAtari> hi folks, quick ATI drivers question.  As i understand there are proprietary and open source ati drivers.  which are better?
[09:52] <FooAtari> im looking at running beryl
[09:52] <AlexC_> vonk: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree   basically
[09:53] <stephans> ubotu: It does not work with vista
[09:53] <AlexC_> FooAtari: define better :P
[09:53] <FooAtari> lol
[09:53] <FooAtari> performance
[09:53] <keithhhhh> can someone tell me how to rename my 2nd partition label....
[09:53] <Vanja> okay AlexC_ im in that screen again. 2 options:
[09:53] <Vanja> "Erase entire disk (disk info)"
[09:53] <Vanja> "Manually Edit partition table"
[09:53] <AlexC_> FooAtari: I'd say the propritary ones, but you'll need to use XGL and not AIGLX
[09:54] <AlexC_> Vanja: hum, weird. hold on,
[09:54] <mzanfardino> keyboards people.  does anyone have any information on how I can change my default keyboard defintion?!?
[09:54] <Vanja> im holding on :)
[09:54] <sidny4> Jowi: that returns nothing, so now how do I exit xfce?
[09:54] <Jowi> mzanfardino, "gnome-keyboard-properties
[09:55] <FooAtari> care to explain a little more alexC? whats the difference?
[09:55] <Jowi> sidny4, what do you mean by "exit xfce"? ctrl-alt-backspace will restart Xorg.
[09:55] <wezzie> im have trouble viewing a .rm file. i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown fileformat. what could be the problem
[09:55] <farruinn> wezzie: have you tried right-clicking and selecting "open with"?
[09:56] <vonk> AlexC_:  i get errors :/
[09:56] <sidny4> I meant exit X, with gnome installed stopping gdm does it, but I'm not sure with xfce. I start it with startx
[09:56] <AlexC_> vonk: I aint physic! what errors?
[09:56] <wezzie> yes i have tried right clicking the file
[09:56] <mzanfardino> Jowi: err... ok, yes, that's the topic I need help with.  I'm aware of the keyboard configuration in xorg, and can clearly see that my right alt is being suppressed somehow, but I can't seem to locate any information on what options I can change this too...
[09:57] <vonk> could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock -open (11 resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:57] <Jowi> sidny4, the display manager in use should be listed in /etc/rc2.d. for example gdm is listed as S13gdm. see if there is another S13 there
[09:57] <AlexC_> vonk: do you have synaptic open?
[09:57] <vonk> uh yes
[09:58] <vonk> that's it?
[09:58] <AlexC_> vonk: close it, you can only use one at a time
[09:58] <wezzie> farruinn: yes i have tried that, but it still doesnt run
[09:58] <AlexC_> vonk: when using apt-get in terminal, synaptic must be closed.
[09:58] <Jowi> mzanfardino, depends on the keyboard you have. I would suggest trying a different keyboard model (for example "Generic 105") in the Layouts tab.
[09:58] <Oriyen> Can anyone help me???
[09:58] <vonk> AlexC_:  tx alot man ;)
[09:58] <mzanfardino> Jowi: nm. I see what you where trying to tell me.  I needed to execute gnome-keyboard-properites from a terminal window.
[09:58] <Oriyen> My wireless on my laptop does not work
[09:58] <AlexC_> !ask | Oriyen
[09:58] <ubotu> Oriyen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:59] <matjan> hi, when using mkdosfs to change the volume name of a fat partition, does that wipe the whole file system, or does it stay intact?
[09:59] <Oriyen> I have ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[09:59] <Jowi> mzanfardino, yeah. gnome-keyboard-properties have many keyboard models listed that you can chose from
[09:59] <AlexC_> Vanja: weird. There is normaly a re-size and format/partition option. I don't know what else to suggest, apart from manual resize
[09:59] <sidny4> Jowi: S13gdm is in there
[09:59] <Oriyen> and It can see essid but can't connect
[09:59] <AlexC_> Vanja: ask the question again and see if someone else can help,
[09:59] <Oriyen> boh secured and not secured
[09:59] <Vanja> erm. okay
[09:59] <Oriyen> Im not using NEtwork Manager or nothign either
[09:59] <Jowi> sidny4, did you type this exactly (note the capital A) "ps -A | grep gdm"?
[10:00] <Trifase> morning o/
[10:00] <AlexC_> Vanja: sorry I couldn't be of more help =)
[10:00] <sidny4> yup
[10:00] <DARKGuy> What file should I edit to have a directory (~/scripts/") into my "path" automatically at boot time so that I don't have to type "cd ~/scripts/" then my sh script? I dunno if I can explain myself :/
[10:00] <Vanja> Is there anyone here who can help me with installing/partitioning ?
[10:00] <Jowi> sidny4, how did you start xfce?
[10:00] <Vanja> nah its okay, you tried ;)
[10:00] <AlexC_> =)
[10:00] <sidny4> Jowi: startx
[10:00] <agnostic> on my Edgy,  Ctrl+Alt+Fn combination do not work, any idea?
[10:00] <Jowi> sidny4, so you are not using a display manager at the moment.
[10:00] <vonk> djeez
[10:01] <farruinn> Vanja: What problem are you having?
[10:01] <Jowi> sidny4, "killall Xorg" might work
[10:01] <sidny4> Jowi: I'm in xfce right now, I ran "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" earlier and that didn't close it
[10:02] <Hoag> Hey. I'm trying to sort out my flash plugin, but I can't seem to get it to work. I installed flash player 9, but firefox doesn't seem to do anything different.
[10:02] <Jowi> sidny4, of course not. if you started xfce with startx then gdm is not running
[10:02] <Oriyen> I have a Intel Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and I don't think the drivers installed and Intel's Driver instructions are way to difficult to read
[10:02] <vonk> AlexC_:  i'm really a newbie to linux, so i really hope you don't think it's a stupid question... but i have problems getting some text copied from terminal to xchat
[10:02] <sidny4> Jowi: that makes sense. killall Xorg stopped it, thanks
[10:02] <Jowi> np sidny4
[10:03] <LinTux> how do i stop and start xserver?
[10:03] <AlexC_> vonk:  you have to right-click then copy
[10:03] <adaptr> LinTux: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:03] <ardchoille42> LinTux, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {stop|start|restart}
[10:03] <TLE> Vanja: Hey Vanja. I can see that you are getting help here now. Just for another time, there usually are people in ubuntu-dk but they often do others things at the same time, so some time it takes a little time before anybody answers
[10:03] <vonk> AlexC_:  that seems to work, but i can't paste a thing here
[10:03] <LinTux> Adaptr & ardchoille42 thanks
[10:04] <AlexC_> vonk: weird, try right-click paste ?
[10:04] <vonk> i tried AlexC_
[10:04] <vonk> can't paste the content in terminal either
[10:04] <agnostic> on my Edgy,  "Ctrl+Alt+Fn"  combination do not work, any idea?
[10:04] <AlexC_> vonk: hum....are you sure you copied it?
[10:04] <AlexC_> try pasted it into openoffice write to check,
[10:05] <adaptr> agnostic: what do you mean, "does not work"?
[10:05] <Oriyen> anyone got any ideas
[10:05] <Oriyen>  I have a Intel Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and I don't think the drivers installed and Intel's Driver instructions are way to difficult read was wondering if anyone knew any repositories for it?
[10:06] <tommyv> !xmmms
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmmms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <tommyv> !xmms
[10:06] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:06] <tommyv> hi, can someone tell me how i can control xmms through the terminal?
[10:06] <Oriyen> !wireless
[10:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:06] <_Odin_> #chile
[10:06] <Froggy1> Hey, can anyone help me with my ubuntu installation? since installation told me to restart my computer freezes before startup, on the bit saying 'starting hotplug subscription'. On  'recovery mode'  i get  'azx_get_response timeout'  scrolling on the screen
[10:06] <AlexC_> tommyv: I think you need a plugin for it
[10:06] <DARKGuy> Hey, what file should I edit to have a directory (~/scripts/") into my "path" automatically at boot time so that I don't have to type "cd ~/scripts/" then my sh script? I dunno if I can explain myself :/
[10:06] <vonk> AlexC_:  no, nothing in OO
[10:07] <AlexC_> vonk: Ok, highlight the text in terminal, then right-click and select copy
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  reverse is no problem, it seems that terminal just doesn't copy it :s
[10:07] <agnostic> when in X, the combination make just a black screen without nothing in it
[10:07] <LjL> DARKGuy: ~/.bashrc will do i suppose
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  i tried
[10:07] <jaku> qualcuno ha un garmin? che programma si usa per gestire i dati?
[10:07] <LjL> DARKGuy: you need to change the PATH variable
[10:07] <LjL> !it | jaku
[10:07] <ubotu> jaku: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:07] <AlexC_> vonk: that is very weird,
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  i know....
[10:07] <jaku> LjL: sorry :) wrog /j
[10:07] <LjL> jaku: "apt-cache search garmin"
when in X, the combination make just a black screen without nothing in it
[10:08] <vonk> it's weird for me too ;)
[10:08] <LjL> !find garmin
[10:08] <DARKGuy> LjL: Yeah, I dunno how though, and there isn't nothing relevant in the .bashrc file :(
[10:08] <ubotu> File garmin found in grass
[10:08] <Skrit> hey there... I would need some advice about setting the virtual terminal's resolution, I tried editing grub kernel line to add vga = 791 but that dosen't help. I get: unsupported parameter at boot time and when prompted scan for the available configs, the highest thing I can get is 800 x 600. Any toughts on how I could get something better?
[10:08] <hjmills> DARKGuy, why not place them in /bin which ubuntu already adds to the path if it exists?
[10:08] <wolfwalker> Got a file here that has a .tar.gzip ending
[10:08] <wolfwalker> How do you uncompress a gzip file?
[10:08] <LjL> !gzip | wolfwalker
[10:08] <ubotu> gzip: The GNU compression utility. In component main, is required. Version 1.3.5-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:08] <Kyral> wolfwalker: tar -zxbg
[10:08] <Kyral> tt
[10:08] <DARKGuy> hjmills: I don't want to mix my own scripts with the /bin ones :P
[10:08] <adaptr> agnostic: what combination ?
[10:08] <Kyral> err
[10:08] <hjmills> DARKGuy, if you are insistent on using ~/scripts then look at ~/.bash_profile
[10:08] <Kyral> wolfwalker: tar -zxvf
[10:09] <hjmills> DARKGuy, sorry - i meant ~bin
[10:09] <wolfwalker> Did not
[10:09] <wolfwalker> It didn't handle it
[10:09] <LjL> jaku: uhm, good packages to try are probably gpsbabel, gpsman and gpstrans
[10:09] <Vanja> oh TLE thanks, i was in there earlier but noone answered
[10:09] <hjmills> s/~bin/~\/bin/
[10:09] <wolfwalker> If you're talking about the package manager, that is
[10:09] <hjmills> wow that now looks confusing
[10:09] <DARKGuy> hjmills: it does x)
[10:09] <LjL> DARKGuy: sure that's probably a better place to put it than .bashrc
[10:09] <wolfwalker> If not, then what program does handle it and how do I access it?
[10:09] <agnostic> Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 or F3 ....
[10:09] <jaku> LjL: ok. tks.. i'll try all
[10:09] <DARKGuy> hjmills: but hey, it worked, never knew there was an existant ~/bin folder, woohoo
[10:09] <AlexC_> hjmills: looks like a regular expression lol, damm reg-ex is confusing!
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Skrit: The resolution will depend on which FrameBuffer driver you've got compiled into the kernel at boot-time
[10:09] <hjmills> DARKGuy, change ~/scripts to ~/bin and ubuntu auto adds it to the path - look at ~/.bash_profile for more info
[10:10] <DARKGuy> Yeah, thanks hjmills and LjL :)
[10:10] <adaptr> agnostic: but X is running/working ?
[10:10] <stephans> ok ok ok ok _ I found the solution to connecting to vista with rdp
[10:10] <hjmills> AlexC_, it basically is a substitution regexp and reading and writing them gives good practice...
[10:10] <hjmills> damn - marmalade on my keyboard wrist wrest :(
[10:10] <stephans> the version of rdesktop in ubuntu is too old
[10:10] <acuster> hey all, I'm having trouble mounting an external usb disk
[10:10] <agnostic> perfect running
[10:10] <Skrit> IntuitiveNipple, that's a start, I'll search a little about it thanks.
[10:10] <acuster> fdisk finds it as /dev/sda*
[10:11] <stephans> you need version 1.5 of rdesktop
[10:11] <acuster> but that's not a real path in Edgy
[10:11] <hjmills> DARKGuy, sure :D
[10:11] <stephans> soooooooooooo....
[10:11] <acuster> how do I mount the thing?
[10:11] <AlexC_> hjmills: reading reg-ex makes my brain hurt, I use it a few times in PHP - drives me mad!
[10:11] <acuster> automount seems not to have worked
[10:11] <stephans> does any one know where i can find it for ubntu
[10:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Skrit: I had to do that for an Intel i810-based notebook, modules can't be configured from the kernel command-line
[10:11] <hjmills> acuster, run "ls /dev/ | grep sda"
[10:11] <stephans> rdesktop-1.5 for ubuntu
[10:11] <hjmills> acuster, tell me what it finds, sda1 etc
[10:11] <stephans> debian has it
[10:11] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| what did you mean? What do I do with this file? Package Manager doesn't handle it.
[10:11] <wolfwalker> It's a .gzip file
[10:12] <stephans> but you can not install it in ubuntu
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: and so does Ubuntu
[10:12] <davmor2> stephans just type rdesktop1.5.deb
[10:12] <Kyral> wolfwalker: I gave you the command to extract it
[10:12] <wolfwalker> And I must say the compression rate is quite impressive!
[10:12] <stephans> unresolvable dependencies
[10:12] <davmor2> into google sorry
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[10:12] <Kyral> wolfwalker: the rest is up to you
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: do you have the extra resporities enabled?
[10:12] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| I'm afraid I'm smarter than you give me credit for.
[10:12] <farruinn> wolfwalker: tar xvzf foo.gzip will unzip it. Is it a source package?
[10:12] <acuster> hjmills, thanks for your help, it seems to have resolved itself
[10:12] <stephans> AlexC_ yes i do...
[10:12] <Froggy1> Anyone: Hey, can anyone help me with my ubuntu installation? since installation told me to restart my computer freezes before startup, on the bit saying 'starting hotplug subscription'. On  'recovery mode'  i get  'azx_get_response timeout'  scrolling on the screen
[10:12] <heatxsink> I've followed the howto on the nvidia drivers for ubuntu, and I'm still having issues, I'm running Edgy, and when install the nvidia-glx driver and restart gdm everything works great, however on reboot,  I get this funky error from X stating that it cannot find the nvidia.ko file in /lib/modules/<kernel version>/volatile/ HELP!
[10:12] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| Do I right click on it and run that or what?
[10:12] <stephans> an i have rdesktop 1.4
[10:13] <Kyral> wolfwalker: In the terminal
[10:13] <hjmills> acuster, one of the best kind of problems then
[10:13] <AlexC_> stephans: ah, I see - rdesktop is oly 1.4 in Ubuntu
[10:13] <stephans> Where can i fiind the rdesktop1.5 for ubuntU?
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !rdesktop
[10:13] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[10:13] <Kyral> stephans: Compile it your self
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !rdesktop feisty
[10:13] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 444 kB
[10:13] <flodine> is there a feisty room i can join?
[10:13] <Oriyen> how can i create a script with this nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[10:13] <Oriyen> cd '/path/to/World of Warcraft'
[10:13] <Oriyen> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[10:13] <stephans> Kyral... that is shamefulll....
[10:14] <AlexC_> flodine: #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:14] <Kyral> stephans: Why?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> stephans, upgrade to feisty, I've heard it's pretty stable by now
[10:14] <Kyral> Heaven forbid you need to get your hands dirty
[10:14] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: stephans I HIGHLY reccomend you DO NOT install feisty if you want to use it for every day use
[10:14] <stephans> I am running the latest releas of ubuntu
[10:14] <Kyral> s/because/before
[10:14] <hjmills> I love sshfs!
[10:14] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: stephans Feisty is in heavy development and it _will_ break.
[10:14] <farruinn> stephans: must be latest stable then
[10:15] <stephans> AlexC_... I agree... I just want to find a deb built for ubuntu that is up to date...
[10:15] <Kyral> farruinn: Long time no see
[10:15] <wolfwalker> Well, here's hoping..........
[10:15] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all
[10:15] <farruinn> Kyral: hey :)
[10:15] <stephans> AlexC_ a backport?
[10:16] <AlexC_> stephans: could try converting an RPM to deb with Alien
[10:16] <farruinn> Oriyen: put # /usr/bin/bash at a top of the file, then those lines you pasted
[10:16] <Kyral> thats sketchier than compiling from source
[10:16] <Oriyen> k ty
[10:16] <farruinn> t Oriyen then run 'chmod a+x <filename>' on it
[10:16] <Hoag> Why do some websites seem to work with firefox, and some not? the about:plugins page shows the correct flash player that I have installed, but some pages don't work properly.
[10:17] <Vanja> hey AlexC_ i just noticed what you were talkin about.
[10:17] <Vanja> there needs to be 3 options
[10:17] <Vanja> http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2340/w2u260tf.png
[10:17] <Kyral> Hoag: Because some web designers only design for IE ;P
[10:17] <stephans> AlexC_ good idea.... But why are updates packages usually not built for existing versions of ubuntu? Upgrading an entire os distro for the sake of a few apps is nonsense...
[10:17] <AlexC_> Vanja: yeah there is normally Erase Entire Disk, Resize and Format, or Manually resize..but you only seem to have 2
[10:17] <Vanja> but i only have the 2 bottom ones on that image
[10:17] <Vanja> yeh :S so weird
[10:17] <vonk> AlexC_:  tx alot for your help, now it works. only the copy/paste don't work :p i can live with that
[10:18] <stephans> Users should be able to install newer apps without replacing the entire distro...
[10:18] <hjmills> what is the best way to keep a desktop and a laptop in sync?
[10:18] <Kyral> stephans: You can compile from source....
[10:18] <Hoag> Kyral: I've used that site fine in firefox before, but I'm having trouble getting it to work with ubuntu. It plays the music, but the image says I need to upgrade to flash player 8. (I have 9)
[10:18] <HymnToLife> stephans, if you think so, create your own distro that will allow it
[10:18] <hjmills> stephans, whats wrong with compilation?
[10:18] <Kyral> just pass ./configure the --PREFIX=/usr/local option
[10:18] <farruinn> stephans: that would require a ridiculous amount of work to support
[10:18] <AlexC_> stephans: latest and greatest doesn't always mean most stable. It means they'd have to test it all again
[10:19] <HymnToLife> and I wish you good lucjk to find package maintainers willing to rebuild the whole package evey time there's a new version out
[10:19] <stephans> Kyral: that is absolutely the lat resource of desperation.... there is a reason that there is a package management system...
[10:19] <Oriyen> everytime I double click it it opens gedit
[10:19] <AlexC_> stephans: also, with a 6 month release cycle, the latest will be in there in 6 months. So unless a program has a release cycle of 1 week, it will amost always be the latest
[10:19] <HymnToLife> every*
[10:19] <Kyral> stephans: Actually /usr/local is there for a reason
[10:19] <hjmills> stephans, well your other option is to find a repo with the version you want on that is for ubuntu edgy and use that
[10:19] <Kyral> stephans: /usr/local was left out of the control of Apt for the reason of thats where people should put self compiled apps
[10:19] <farruinn> stephans: you can (try to) safely mix distros using pinning (check the APT HOWTO on debian)
[10:20] <stephans> Comeon guys... If i compile somethong and the some libraries get updated.... boooom... that is worse than dependency hell...
[10:20] <Oriyen> # /usr/bin/bash
[10:20] <Oriyen> nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[10:20] <Oriyen> cd 'media/sda1/Program Files/WoW - Linux'
[10:20] <Oriyen> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[10:20] <hjmills> stephans, the choice is yours, compilation, use a precomiled deb or use another (unofficial) repo. Just dont expect other people to find it all for you - google is your friend
[10:20] <Kyral> stephans: Actually that is dependacy hell
[10:20] <AlexC_> !paste | Oriyen
[10:20] <ubotu> Oriyen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <hjmills> !paste | Oriyen,
[10:20] <DARKGuy> stephans: That's why you should stay with Edgy since it'll mostly never break
[10:20] <ubotu> Oriyen,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <Kyral> stephans: You will learn nothing by playing it safe
[10:21] <Kyral> :P
[10:21] <farruinn> Oriyen: Yeah, next time don't paste though ;)
[10:21] <hjmills> stephans, what do you need this rdesktop for?
[10:21] <stephans> I windows... the people we seek to attract... can install almost an application ... and not have to upgrade .... everytime
[10:21] <DARKGuy> Kyral: but you'll lose more time fixing the entire system than using it >.<
[10:21] <TLE> Vanja: yeah I saw, but as I said, you just need to wait a little longer. I just don't hope that it means we wont see you again in there :)
[10:21] <bcardarella> Is crontabs the correct program I should be using to add a cron job?
[10:21] <AlexC_> stephans: you can still, install most applications.
[10:21] <Kyral> DARKGuy: How do you think I became as good as I am :D
[10:21] <stephans> hjmills:  so I can administer the vista machines
[10:21] <hjmills> Kyral, could stephans install a chroot and run a newer version or rdesktop inside that to protect his system or is that my crazy talk?
[10:21] <HymnToLife> stephans, and have bugs and security hole fixed once every 5 years
[10:21] <Oriyen> Farruinn I did the chmod  but it still won't execute
[10:21] <DARKGuy> Kyral: xD well, but I'd like to have linux to use it, not to fix it :P
[10:22] <Kyral> hjmills: /usr/local is THERE to isolate apps
[10:22] <Oriyen> it sitting in my home directory
[10:22] <farruinn> Oriyen: try ./<foo>
[10:22] <HymnToLife> let alone that an upgrade creates more bugs than it solves...
[10:22] <Vanja> nah ive been waiting a while so ima take it in my own hands . kinda :)
[10:22] <AlexC_> stephans: you can install thousands of programs that _will_ work, and by safe to use. With windows you take a gamble as to wheter this random .exe file you found on the interwebs will be the last time you'll see your Windows desktop or not
[10:22] <Kyral> stephans: Then switch to a non-point based release distro like Gentoo or Arch
[10:22] <AlexC_> s/by/be
[10:22] <Vanja> Could anyone tell me if this http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/  tutorial is any good?
[10:22] <farruinn> Kyral: I think the concern is having to install supporting libraries as well
[10:22] <DARKGuy> I second AlexC_ :P
[10:22] <stephans> OK OK  OK --- this is not religion.... I am just trying to be practical... from a user perspective.
[10:23] <hjmills> Vanja, i dont know about that one but there is one in the wiki im sure
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: I say just try the configure and if it works HOORAY!
[10:23] <HymnToLife> stephans, a user is not someone willing to have the very latest verison of everything
[10:23] <farruinn> Kyral: if it were me, I'd do that too, but...
[10:23] <HymnToLife> a user wans something that works
[10:23] <HymnToLife> thus will stay with rdesktop 1.4
[10:23] <wolfwalker> Iiiiiiiiiiiiit's me again. The annoying newbie, with some more annoying newbie questions.
[10:23] <Vanja> well ive been going through the wiki alot. and its really ALOT of info u get there. cant find a specific easy to follow tut
[10:23] <DARKGuy> Personally, Ubuntu is the *best* distro I've found that has been able to compile something. In fact, the first distro that has allowed me to compile stuff without any stupid errors and googling. APT-Get is God.
[10:23] <hjmills> wolfwalker, hooray!
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: Besides.....if they design a library that breaks backward compat when they upgrade it
[10:23] <AlexC_> stephans: you can eaisly install it though, get the .rpm file and convert it with alien
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: Then thats just ****ed up
[10:24] <wolfwalker> I tried to decompress that .tar.gzip file, but archive manager says it is not supported
[10:24] <wolfwalker> It doesn't have the compression format, apparently
[10:24] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, use the command-line :)
[10:24] <Kyral> wolfwalker: Thats REALLY ****ed up
[10:24] <hjmills> wolfwalker, rename it to .tar.gz not .tar.gzip :)
[10:24] <wolfwalker> I did
[10:24] <wolfwalker> Is THAT all I had to do?!
[10:24] <Kyral> DARKGuy: You'd love Arch
[10:24] <stephans> AlexC_ I know..  I will... mandriva has provided the rpm...
[10:24] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm trying to set some Keyboard Shortcuts on a laptop.  The keyboard has a blue "Fn" key, and the PgUp and PgDn keys have blue volume icons, but nothing happens when I in the Keyboard Shortcuts window when I hit these keys.  Any suggestions?
[10:24] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, tar xzvf filename.tgz
[10:24] <Kyral> hjmills: That shouldn't happen...
[10:24] <DARKGuy> Kyral: reason? ;)
[10:25] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all
[10:25] <HymnToLife> or .tar.gz or whatever the hell you want
[10:25] <farruinn> stephans: if that's what you were going to do anyway, then why push all the debate? :)
[10:25] <wolfwalker> Gonna try this again
[10:25] <Kyral> DARKGuy: Allows you to really mess with the compile :D
[10:25] <stephans> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/rdesktop
[10:25] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, mine worked out of the box - you did try them ddnt you?
[10:25] <stephans> check it out...
[10:25] <Kyral> ABS FTW
[10:25] <DARKGuy> Kyral: Cool! *shall install and break stuff someday, woohoo*
[10:25] <Kyral> stephans: Aliening an RPM is just as dangerious
[10:25] <Kyral> jeez...why do people hate compiling...
[10:26] <Kyral> I find it fun
[10:26] <hjmills> Kyral, sssh - dont tell him that otherwise he will never try it and will never learn
[10:26] <AlexC_> farruinn: I can understand his point 100%. Why should FF1.5 not be upgradted to FF2 in Dapper, if Dapper is support for 3 years on Desktop, surely FF1.5 will be extremly outdated by then - but they'd still be usign it
[10:26] <stephans> Kyral: at leas it will be in the package database so it can be managed
[10:26] <Kyral> stephans: Again, /usr/local :P
[10:26] <AlexC_> farruinn: of course i just took FF as an example, there are plenty of others
[10:26] <farruinn> AlexC_: That's why we have foo-updates repositories
[10:26] <hjmills> stephans, if you use checkinstall when compiling it still ends up as a deb so is still in the package database :D
[10:26] <stephans> Kyral: I can be helll for me later...
[10:27] <Vanja> AlexC_ i started following that tut from that link and i actually found the "resize" drive option. just dunno what to do
[10:27] <felix_> hi
[10:27] <Kyral> In a Debian based system, you KNOW that anything in /usr/local is NOT under the control of Apt
[10:27] <farruinn> AlexC_: At least that's how I understand it. I've been out of the Ubuntu loop for a while.
[10:27] <Vanja> please say if you busy, i keep asking you cos your the only one i really talked to
[10:27] <stephans> hjmills --- talk to me some more about that!
[10:27] <Kyral> checkinstall...*cringe*
[10:27] <farruinn> Kyral: what's wrong with checkinstall?
[10:28] <FooAtari> beryl and compiz is either more commonly used than the other?
[10:28] <Kyral> farruinn: Left over reflex from MOTU :P
[10:28] <AlexC_> farruinn: afaik, the program versions that are in will never get changed after feature freeze, only for bug fixes. So people using Dapper for the full 3 years will be stuck with FF1.5 and Gaim 1 or what ever it is. they wont push the latest into resporities
[10:28] <hjmills> stephans, just google checkinstall - its a program you use when compiling instead of the last "sudo make install" step which generates a deb and installs that so its easier to manage on apt based systems
[10:28] <hjmills> !checkinstall
[10:28] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:28] <kordobes> hay alguien que hable espaol por aqui
[10:28] <Draconicus> Hey, I'm trying to create a fat16 partition with the text-based parition editor (in the alternate install) nd it's failing every time. I'm not even trying to mount it as anything. Can anyone help?
[10:28] <Kyral> kordobes: #ubuntu-es
[10:28] <HymnToLife> !es | kordobes
[10:28] <kordobes> gracias
[10:28] <ubotu> kordobes: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:28] <Kyral> Draconicus: why FAT16?
[10:29] <Draconicus> Kyral: A Win95 project.
[10:29] <AlexC_> Vanja: I've never used the manual partition, as much as I would like to help - I don't want something I said to mess up your windows hard drive
[10:29] <Draconicus> Kind of an experiment.
[10:29] <stephans> hjmills -- thank you. That satisfies my requirements.
[10:29] <wolfwalker> |Draconicus:| get the 6.10 version of Ubuntu as an .iso and burn it to a live cd. It has a GREAT partitioner!
[10:29] <Kyral> Draconicus: Doesn't Win95 support FAT32?
[10:29] <farruinn> AlexC_: Ah, gotcha. I guess you'd have to have a good reason to stick with Dapper for the full 3 years then.
[10:29] <hjmills> stephans, it makes compiling enjoyable :D
[10:29] <wolfwalker> Much better than Dapper's partitioner
[10:29] <Vanja> Well its not manual partition. its the option in Gparted that "resizes"
[10:29] <Draconicus> wolfwalker: It's just a bulky graphical frontend to the same thing that's in the text based install.
[10:29] <Kyral> resizing is always sketchy
[10:30] <AlexC_> farruinn: companies most probably would. I just don't see why they wont push the latest, stable, versions into repo's
[10:30] <wolfwalker> Oh, so that's what you're using?
[10:30] <g333k_work> hello after apt-get dist-upgrading my xubuntu 6.06 I got a kernel panic, any chance to solve it?
[10:30] <wolfwalker> Worked for me................
[10:30] <HymnToLife> Draconicus, wrong, the alternate uses partman, while the GUI uses parted
[10:30] <Draconicus> Not to mention I'm out of CDs and this shouldn't be happening with Fat16. It's a classic filesystem and has been perfected for nearly a decade.
[10:30] <hjmills> farruinn, you would only stick with dapper if all your needs were fulfilled and you didnt want to risk stability - i work in a pc shop in a place full of old rich people and they would really benefit from stability not the latest features
[10:30] <AlexC_> Vanja: gparted? are you not using the Ubuntu installer's partition section?
[10:30] <Kyral> AlexC_: Thats the thing about "Release based" distros like Debian and Ubuntu that I don't like :D
[10:30] <babis85> hello, what is your opinion about resizing the root(/) partition? I don't want to encounter any problems with data loss etc. because it is my working computer
[10:30] <Souljah> hey guys
[10:30] <Souljah> sup
[10:31] <HymnToLife> Kyral, don't use them, then
[10:31] <Kyral> HymnToLife: I don't
[10:31] <Souljah> I just installed XP again
[10:31] <Kyral> I'm an Arch user :D
[10:31] <HymnToLife> me neither
[10:31] <Souljah> and allowed GRUB to load again
[10:31] <Souljah> but now
[10:31] <Draconicus> babis85: What are you trying to do?
[10:31] <HymnToLife> FBSD here :)
[10:31] <Souljah> when i try to boot into xp
[10:31] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:31] <Souljah> it won't
[10:31] <hjmills> AlexC_, they cant push the latest versions into the dapper repos because it would all have to be tested to play nice together which takes time - if you need more recent stuff then upgrade
[10:31] <Kyral> HymnToLife: I've tried FBSD
[10:31] <Draconicus> HymnToLife: Well, even so, it's a good, reliable partitioner.
[10:31] <Vanja> No alexC_ becaus i couldnt see that resize option.
[10:31] <Vanja> so i found this http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/
[10:31] <Vanja> and im trying to follow that.
[10:31] <Vanja> and it tells me to start gparted :S
[10:32] <AlexC_> hjmills: oh I don't need the most recent stuff, I'm not even using Dapper. But I mean it can't take long for them to test FF2 with Dapper to check it's stable
[10:32] <babis85> Draconicus: i would like to resize the root partition, that's all
[10:32] <Souljah> anyone can help?
[10:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Nope, the volume keys don't work.  Now I'd like to see if I can get them to work.
[10:32] <Draconicus> babis85: Um... There's no reason to resize the root partition unless you're trying to make room for something.
[10:32] <AlexC_> hjmills: yeah it's taking people away from coding Feisty, but it would help the people who stick with Dapper. You can't just leave them behind in terms of software versions
[10:32] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:32] <hjmills> AlexC_, no - but if it needs a newer library then that gets updated and then they need to test everything that also uses that lib so some of those need updating etc
[10:33] <babis85> Draconicus: that's right, i want more space
[10:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there some trick to getting these keys to work on a laptop?  It's an old Dell C800.
[10:33] <hjmills> AlexC_, they can always upgrade to edgy
[10:33] <mamboadm> does anybody know about sympa?
[10:33] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:33] <hjmills> does anybody sync a laptop and a desktop and how do they manage it?
[10:33] <Draconicus> babis85: How big is your root partition now?
[10:33] <AlexC_> hjmills: I know, but Dapper is supported for 3 years. Companies will most likely stick to the LTS releases, which means for 3 years they'd be running FF1.5 - which would be extremly outdated in 3 years
[10:34] <babis85> Draconicus: about 28Gb
[10:34] <Draconicus> ...
[10:34] <Draconicus> babis85: WHY?!
[10:34] <Souljah> how do you edit your boot partition
[10:34] <Souljah> grub's list
[10:34] <babis85> Draconicus: because i say so, i need more space
[10:34] <hjmills> AlexC_, I guess - but it would still need a whole extra team testing each package as it goes in as well as the libs and the programs the depend on the libs and so on and so forth
[10:34] <mamboadm> does anybody know of sympa?
[10:35] <hjmills> !sympa
[10:35] <ubotu> sympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-7 (edgy), package size 1149 kB, installed size 8064 kB
[10:35] <Draconicus> babis85: I mean why on earth do you have a 28GB root partition? You only need 5GB at the most!
[10:35] <hjmills> mamboadm, ubotu does!
[10:35] <mamboadm> hjmills: yes but i am having an issue ubotu can't solve that
[10:35] <AlexC_> Souljah: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Here's a separate question: In keyboard shortcuts, I hit a few keys while the "Volume down" shortcut was selected.  How do I restore the default value that was there?
[10:35] <Draconicus> Err..
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> It was hex, like 0x??.
[10:35] <dmg> I have a reproducible segv with apt-get update, with sid/edgy/feisty/edgy-updates/edgy-security in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <Draconicus> babis85: Sorry. I'm used to having a separate home partition.
[10:35] <Vanja> Ima go out and search for some answers, bye
[10:35] <Souljah> thanks AlexC_ it's nice that someone actually answered :)
[10:36] <hjmills> Draconicus, my root is 40gb but i aint used much
[10:36] <Draconicus> babis85: I'm guessing that your home directory is part of the root partition, right?
[10:36] <babis85> Draconicus: ah, because at the installation i didn't create a separate partition for HOME
[10:36] <dmg> I'm running an up-to-date edgy
[10:36] <babis85> Draconicus: that's right
[10:36] <hjmills> dmg, why is sid in there?
[10:36] <Draconicus> babis85: Yeah. You have to manually edit partitions if you want to do that stuff. It's not hard, though. I recommend you try it next time you have the chance.
[10:37] <dmg> hjmills: I wanted to try to get a newer gphoto version -- I just got a camera that's only supported by gphoto 2.3.0
[10:37] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, I dont think you can - if you didnt use it set it to ctrl+alt+shift+pageup/down or something you will never work
[10:37] <Draconicus> babis85: Anyway, what are you making room for? If you're resizing your only storage filesystem partition, what do you intend to do with the resulting empty disk space?
[10:37] <dmg> I haven't installed anything from it, I was just going to see if it had the newer gphoto and it segfaulted
[10:37] <babis85> Draconicus: i know...
[10:37] <hjmills> dmg, i would recommend taking that out then
[10:37] <babis85> Draconicus: it is a 80gb disk
[10:37] <Stormx2> I need to convert a wma to an mp3/flac. any suggestions?
[10:37] <Draconicus> babis85: Oh... I'm sorry. Are you an experienced Linux user, then? Heh... Not used to those. :P
[10:37] <hjmills> dmg, best bet is to compile for newer apps - use checkinstall to help yourself
[10:38] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Argh, that's one of the drawbacks of the gnome "set it right away" interface--it needs an "undo" or "cancel" option.
[10:38] <AlexC_> Souljah: you're welcome =)
[10:38] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, yeah - def needs a cancel
[10:38] <babis85> Draconicus: for now i have a 28gb / partition and 500mb for swap in that order (in the disk), and then the rest is empty
[10:38] <dmg> hjmills: well segfault goes away when I remove sid.  I guess I was just expecting that apps should never segfault.  I was going to build gphoto from source into /usr/local/stow, but I'll check out 'checkinstall'
[10:39] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, but if you used it then you would know it and if not it doesnt matter as long as you wont press it by accident
[10:39] <Draconicus> babis85: Oh! You want to make the partition BIGGER! Why didn't you clarify? :P
[10:39] <Souljah> /dev/hda1   *           1        6527    52428096    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:39] <Souljah> does that mean
[10:39] <babis85> Draconicus: so i would like to move the swap partition to the right
[10:39] <Souljah> that windows is on (hd0,1)?
[10:39] <bluefox83> dmg, why on earth are you building anything from source in ubuntu?
[10:39] <babis85> Draconicus: so as to make space for the Root
[10:39] <Draconicus> babis85: Mind a PM?
[10:40] <hjmills> bluefox83, because he needs a more recent version of a program so he cant get it from the repos
[10:40] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Right now it is disabled (by hitting backspace).  The program does not respond to ctrl+alt+shift+PgUp.
[10:40] <babis85> Draconicus: sorry, i didn't explain to you in detail
[10:40] <bluefox83> hjmills, why not use a cvs?
[10:40] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, im not fond of that program - you cant add custom commands either which is dull :(
[10:40] <Draconicus> babis85: I've got it now. It's complicated to explain what you need to do, though. May I PM?
[10:40] <dmg> bluefox83: 'a cvs'?
[10:40] <hjmills> bluefox83, thats just the same but using less stable sources
[10:41] <babis85> Draconicus: of course
[10:42] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:42] <bluefox83> hjmills, generally cvs repositories contain the bleeding edge of the software you want, sometimes it's so new that they haven't worked any kinks out yet and it's uber buggy
[10:42] <bluefox83> er, sorry that was for dmg
[10:42] <hjmills> bluefox83, i know but its still the source so would still need compiling
[10:42] <dmg> ok, well, thanks, I guess ...
[10:42] <dmg> ok, well, thanks, I guess .../part
[10:42] <AlexC_> Souljah: sorry, didn't see question. YesI think it is,
[10:43] <Thomas``> can some one help me please? My CPU is alway running @1GHz but i have a core duo with 1.66Ghz and by the graphiccarc the same.. :(
[10:44] <bardas> Hi. I'm getting some weird errors with EasyUbuntu
[10:44] <Oriyen> can anyone tell me how to up date the ipw3945 drivers?
[10:44] <Oriyen> It needs a new daemon inorder to work properly
[10:45] <Oriyen> which I dled
[10:45] <Oriyen> I got the drivers from here http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net
[10:46] <snort_> irc.choopa.net
[10:46] <Thomas``> no ubuntu developer here?
[10:46] <bardas> what's preferable?  the Nvidia "legacy" driver, or the other one?
[10:47] <Thomas``> if u mean me.. i have dld the driver from the nvidia site and installed it
[10:47] <Thomas``> but beryl is very slow
[10:47] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:47] <bluefox83> you should install the nvidia beta driver
[10:47] <Cuddles_in_KY> afternoon all.
[10:47] <Cuddles_in_KY> does anyone here have experience with ndiswrapper?
[10:47] <Thomas``> hm. Yeah..but why is my cpu underclocked @ubuntu?
[10:48] <bruenig> I have an avi, I want to strip just the audio off of it, how can I do that
[10:48] <BrendanM> Can anyone give me some tips for clearing up hard disk space on Ubuntu?
[10:48] <wolfwalker> Okay, this is driving me about half-past insane
[10:48] <Draconicus> babis85: You there?
[10:48] <dbft> hmph
[10:48] <bluefox83> Thomas``, it's not, it's just not running at peak capacity since you aren't using that much..
[10:48] <dbft> how come this thing has no user list? :D
[10:48] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, you too?
[10:48] <dbft> (XChat)
[10:48] <Thomas``> hm
[10:48] <wolfwalker> Yea, verily
[10:48] <BrendanM> Is there a way to sort everything in the file system by size, for instance?
[10:48] <Jowi> BrendanM, "apt-get clean" will remove downloaded packages. can give you a couple of hundred megabytes
[10:49] <babis85> Draconicus: yea
[10:49] <bruenig> BrendanM, sudo apt-get clean, that should remove some unnecessary stuff.
[10:49] <wolfwalker> Install notes for this file are as follows
[10:49] <wolfwalker> Go to directory src. Type:
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	make
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	sudo cp cayman3341.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	sudo depmod
[10:49] <bluefox83> dbft, it does, it's on the right, but be aware that you can adjust it..so it's probably all the way over against the edge of the window
[10:49] <wolfwalker> But it doesn't wooooooooork
[10:49] <Oriyen> does anyone know?
[10:49] <wolfwalker> The folder src is on the desktop
[10:49] <dbft> I really cant see it bluefox :|
[10:49] <dbft> lol
[10:49] <dbft> theres nothing there
[10:50] <babis85> Draconicus: PM me
[10:50] <BrendanM> Dang! Good call people, that gave me like 400 MB
[10:50] <Thomas``> must i remove the driver what i'm using now..before installing the beta one?
[10:50] <Draconicus> BrendanM: If you mean something like defragmenting on Windows, that's not neccessary with Linux filesystems. They write in a straight line. :P  However, there's a possibility that apt hasn't been auto-cleaning your packages after they're installed. It likes to archive them. Type apt-get clean and see if you free up some space.
[10:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, i can't even get networking up. consider yourself lucky.
[10:50] <Oriyen> does anyone know how to properly install IPW3945 1.2.0 Drivers?
[10:50] <BrendanM> What does apt-get clean do? And why doesn't it run that automatically?
[10:50] <bluefox83> dbft, put your cursor as far over as you can and wait for it to change for that two sided arrow thingy that shows it can move something sideways..
[10:50] <Draconicus> babis85: I did... Don't you see it?
[10:50] <LjL> BrendanM: if you don't know what it does, why do you think it should run automatically? :)
[10:50] <wolfwalker> |Cuddles_in_KY:| I can't even get the internet up. Consider YOURself lucky
[10:50] <wolfwalker> I'm having to resort to a Winblows computer for internet :/
[10:51] <LjL> BrendanM: anyway it removes downloaded packages -- not the *installed* packages, just the download .deb files that are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives. it's not run automatically because you may want them there
[10:51] <kiamo> hmm
[10:51] <hjmills> wolfwalker, Cuddles_in_KY, just be glad you both have a learning experience to enjoy...
[10:51] <kiamo> X crashes and restarts when i try to play a video...
[10:51] <bluefox83> BrendanM, it deletes all your stored .deb packages in the default directory, it doesn't do it automatically cus sometimes you want to reinstall without redownloading the packages
[10:51] <wolfwalker> Should I have put the folder in / instead of in the desktop?
[10:51] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, i've been trying for 4 days now, and can't get an answer from anybody.
[10:51] <kiamo> what could that mean?
[10:51] <babis85> Draconicus: yes but i have replied to you and i am waiting to give me instructions
[10:51] <BrendanM> Why would I want them there? In case I needed to reinstall and didn't have a network connection?
[10:51] <e_klektic> hello all. I can't apt-get update on my dapper server. anyone know why I get 404 not found on packages?
[10:51] <dbft> seriously bluefox83 - when i go all the way over there is the slidebar then the edge of the window :|
[10:51] <bluefox83> kiamo, what player?
[10:51] <kiamo> vlc
[10:51] <kiamo> mplayer
[10:51] <kiamo> totem
[10:51] <kiamo> xine
[10:51] <kiamo> lol
[10:51] <LjL> BrendanM: yeah. or if you want to use them for another machine
[10:51] <LjL> !enter | kiamo
[10:52] <ubotu> kiamo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:52] <BrendanM> well, thanks a lot. I'm going to run that periodically from now on... or make a script to run it periodically
[10:52] <BrendanM> later
[10:52] <dbft> anyway I'm sure i'll sort that
[10:52] <kiamo> sorry LjL ;)
[10:52] <LjL> BrendanM: if you don't like that, anyway, you could make an alias that calls apt-get clean after every install... or perhaps there's an APT config option even
[10:52] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:52] <dm_> Whats a good app for cleaning up space on your HDD, i have a bunch of un-accounted for space....
[10:52] <stia1> I run xubuntu 6.10, and yesterday I installed ubuntu-desktop just to try something out. When I logged into xfce again, it uses gdm as its default window manager (I have no right click menu and I see all the gnome icons on the desktop). I tried to manually run xfdesktop, but that didn't help. do you guys have any ideas on how to make xfce use its desired window manager again?
[10:52] <BrendanM> Any other space saving tips? Where does Ubuntu store its temp files?
[10:52] <dbft> in the applications menu, I have "Internet" and under that I have Java Web Start 1.4 - is there a way to remove certain things from that menu without uninstalling them?
[10:53] <bluefox83> pbureau, locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:53] <kiamo> ok... i just tried to play an mp3 in totem and it restarted x...
[10:53] <BrendanM> Also, if my swap partition hardly gets used at all, could I resize it and devote more of that space to the regular HDD?
[10:53] <kiamo> vlc is playing it now..
[10:53] <bluefox83> dm_, apt-get autoclean?
[10:53] <Draconicus> babis85: I don't see your reply...
[10:53] <wolfwalker> Okay y'all, I'm trying desperately to install USB drivers for my modem so I can get my Linux computer online
[10:54] <wolfwalker> Could someone help?
[10:54] <wolfwalker> I have the drivers, but I can't understand the instructions
[10:54] <Draconicus> babis85: What are you using for an IRC client?
[10:54] <pbureau> bluefox83: pbureau@toshiba-4600:~$ locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:54] <pbureau> /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa_supplicant.conf.gz
[10:54] <pbureau> /usr/share/man/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.gz
[10:54] <e_klektic> hello guys, noob needs apt-get update jus 2 get started - any help appreci8d
[10:54] <hjmills> wow - odd to run a command on one pc and hear another kick into life
[10:54] <babis85> Draconicus: check the PM again, i will do reply to you again
[10:54] <LjL> dm_: kdirstat is handy. that's for KDE, gnome has baobab or something, though it's not really the same kind of view
[10:54] <hjmills> e_klektic, whats up?
[10:54] <bluefox83> pbureau, you probably need to make that file and put it someplace...
[10:55] <wolfwalker> Anybody?
[10:55] <e_klektic> hjmills - I can ping internet but apt-get update gives 404 not found
[10:55] <pbureau> bluefox83:  okay use example file and create a new one then...ok
[10:55] <bluefox83> pbureau, yeah..try that
[10:55] <hjmills> e_klektic, can you ping the server it gives 404 on and what is that server?
[10:55] <Draconicus> babis85: Whatever the case, this isn't working. Is there some other way we could communicate privately?
[10:55] <kiamo> e_klektic, man apt-get
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, i have no experience with ndiswrapper, and it looks like no one here right now has any experience with it either...
[10:56] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[10:56] <wolfwalker> What is ndiswrapper?
[10:56] <jatos> hey
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, all i know is wireless is like the hardest thing to do in ubuntu...
[10:56] <wolfwalker> !ndiswrapper
[10:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:56] <wolfwalker> That's not wireless
[10:56] <babis85> Draconicus: right now i am writing in the PM, don't you see it?
[10:56] <Cuddles_in_KY> bluefox83, you mean me.
[10:56] <Draconicus> babis85: I've already tried to give you instructions via PM. I don't know what's wrong.
[10:56] <wolfwalker> It's a wired modem
[10:56] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, oh wait..you wanted usb?
[10:56] <wolfwalker> es
[10:56] <wolfwalker> Yes
[10:56] <e_klektic> hjmills, Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:56] <e_klektic> hjmills, but I can load that into firefox on my windows laptop
[10:57] <wolfwalker> I got the drivers, uncompressed them to a desktop folder, but I can't do anything with them now
[10:57] <hjmills> e_klektic, ok - try and ping http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <Draconicus> babis85: I'll just explain it in here. Pay close attention.
[10:57] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, give me the url to the instructions you found
[10:57] <wolfwalker> The instructions are as follows:
[10:57] <Jowi> wolfwalker, first of all chech that there isn't already drivers and utilities for that modem. what is the model?
[10:57] <wolfwalker> Go to directory src. Type:
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	make
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	sudo cp cayman3341.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	sudo depmod
[10:57] <wolfwalker> After that you can plug the modem in and configure your new network device.
[10:57] <babis85> do you have a msn account?
[10:57] <wolfwalker> The instructions were in a readme file with the drivers
[10:57] <hjmills> !paste | wolfwalker
[10:57] <ubotu> wolfwalker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <Draconicus> babis85: Now, first of all what you're going to need to do is edit /etc/fstab and comment out the line regarding swap. Let me know when you've done that.
[10:57] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, holdon, let me find some easier instructions for you..
[10:58] <Dreamglider> how should an ubuntu disk be partioned ?
[10:58] <Guest7614664> Why does something hold my dpkg?, i just tried installing something with apt and used ctrl+c but i don't find a process named dpkg or apt
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: as i said you before, i will resize the partition at another time, so, now i only need the instructions
[10:58] <wolfwalker> |Dreamglider:| depends what you want to put on it
[10:58] <Dreamglider> is it enought with a swap and / ?
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: say that i did it
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: what's next?
[10:58] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: yes
[10:59] <kiamo> why might X be restarting when i play most video files?
[10:59] <e_klektic> hjmills, I get unknown host now although I'm sure it worked earlier. I can ping google.com in 30ms
[10:59] <Dreamglider> is that a good disk layout or is there somthing better ?
[10:59] <Draconicus> babis85: Alright... just be sure to save these instructions to a text file. Next you'll want to install gparted, as it's the easiest method. Since you're just expanding the partition there should be no risk of data loss.
[10:59] <sentinelxx> If I only have 1 partition for Linux, is there a way to re-size it so I can add more space?
[10:59] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, when you do "make" does it give an error?
[10:59] <Dreamglider> i have seen ppl use one for boot allso
[10:59] <HymnToLife> kiamo, broken video driver ?
[10:59] <datachild> Why does something hold my dpkg?, i just tried installing something with apt and used ctrl+c but i don't find a process named dpkg or apt
[10:59] <HymnToLife> which video card/driver do you use ?
[11:00] <babis85> Draconicus: i have it installed
[11:00] <wolfwalker> It says there's nothing to make
[11:00] <Draconicus> babis85: Ah. Convenient.
[11:00] <hjmills> e_klektic, well i can get it on screen
[11:00] <wolfwalker> Should I have put the src folder somewhere besides the desktop?
[11:00] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, probably..
[11:00] <kiamo> HymnToLife, thats what i thought but im so sure its installed correctly
[11:00] <datachild> anyone?
[11:00] <hjmills> e_klektic, you could just type it up manually...... :P
[11:00] <bluefox83> datachild, whats the error specifically?
[11:00] <cokeslut> sup?
[11:00] <gizmatix3> Hello
[11:00] <gizmatix3> interest
[11:00] <wolfwalker> And what does it mean about going to directory src?
[11:00] <cokeslut> unsure
[11:01] <Draconicus> babis85: Wait a second... I just realized that there's a bit of a problem with this anyway. Alright, let's start over. I made a mistake.
[11:01] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[11:01] <datachild> bluefox83; tells me that dpkg is used..
[11:01] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: If you pressed ctrl-c, you killed apt-get, so why should there be a process?
[11:01] <e_klektic> hjmills, sorry, I really am new and it's command line because its server - type it up manually?
[11:01] <babis85> Draconicus: ok
[11:01] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, inside the directory it created, there is probably another subdirectory called src
[11:01] <wolfwalker> Yup
[11:01] <datachild> i have no idea EnsignRedshirt, i can't find any processes either
[11:01] <hjmills> e_klektic, sarcasm :D
[11:01] <bluefox83> datachild, no, i mean whatever is holding up apt
[11:01] <wolfwalker> Where do I type anywhere in there?
[11:01] <Draconicus> babis85: All of this will need to be done with a live CD, and you don't need to do the commenting stuff for your swap, I don't think.
[11:01] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, in a terminal, most certainly
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: If you killed it with ctrl+c, there would not be a process.
[11:02] <wolfwalker> How do you access the terminal from inside a folder?
[11:02] <datachild> bluefox83, the problem is that i don't know since i can't find any process holding it up..
[11:02] <hjmills> e_klektic, are you sure your inet is up properly?
[11:02] <datachild> EnsignRedshirt, but why does it tell me that it's "used" ?
[11:02] <hjmills> wolfwalker, open terminal and cd to folder?
[11:02] <bluefox83> datachild, are you running synaptic, or anything else that required a password to run?
[11:02] <kiamo> HymnToLife, I installed my ati drivers manuely rather than apt-get or addremove, but even so i noticed the ati drivers are ticked in the system tools in add remove.  DOes that mean 2 sets of drivers are installed?
[11:02] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, just open your terminal and cd to that folder
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: Ah, I see.  Is synaptic running?
[11:02] <wolfwalker> CD to that folder?
[11:02] <wolfwalker> Elaborate
[11:03] <Draconicus> babis85: What you'll need to do is install gparted in the liveCD if it isn't already included (I don't know if it is). From there you unmount the swap partition if the live session has utilized it, then delete that partition with gparted.
[11:03] <HymnToLife> kiamo, check the X log to see if there's somethinf that can help you
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt: ...or maybe when you hit ctrl+c, a lock didn't get unlocked (I wouldn't know how to fix that).
[11:03] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, whats the name of the folder that you got from unpacking the .tar file?
[11:03] <datachild> EnsignRedshirt; Nope
[11:03] <hjmills> wolfwalker, open a terminal and run "cd /path/to/folder"
[11:03] <kiamo> HymnToLife, where is that log?
[11:03] <e_klektic> hjmills, ah! right :-)  .  think I need to look at network settings somewhere
[11:03] <Draconicus> babis85: From here you can expand your root partiiton to your heart's content, then tack on a new swap partition after it.
[11:03] <HymnToLife> kiamo, /var/log/Xorg.0.log IIRC
[11:03] <skreet> Anyone here using SANE?
[11:03] <wolfwalker> The name of the folder is src and it's on the desktop
[11:03] <bluefox83> we can tell >.>
[11:03] <hjmills> e_klektic, yeah
[11:03] <HymnToLife> !anyone | skreet
[11:03] <ubotu> skreet: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:04] <skreet> ubotu is cleaver.
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is cleaver. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <skreet> clever?
[11:04] <georgy> HymnToLife yes
[11:04] <Astaroth_> how can i kill a package so damn hard?
[11:04] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, so cd Desktop/src/
[11:04] <HymnToLife> skreet, just ask your question, we'll help if we can
[11:04] <babis85> Draconicus: it seems very easy, won't be any problem with data loss?
[11:04] <Astaroth_> i want it absolutely dead.
[11:04] <wolfwalker> Ahhh
[11:04] <wolfwalker> Thanks, I'll try that
[11:04] <wolfwalker> What does cd mean anywho?
[11:04] <skreet> Anyway, i'm using a sane astra 2000p and i can't get it to be detected. I'll admit I'm not all that familiar with SANe. It's uppsed to use a umax_pp backend, but I get no devices found. Parport0 is available.
[11:04] <nissa> hi
[11:04] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker,  Change DIrectory
[11:04] <hjmills> wolfwalker, Change Directory
[11:04] <Astaroth_> wolfwalker: change dir
[11:05] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[11:05] <hjmills> skreet, is it usb?
[11:05] <wolfwalker> I'll be back, because I'll probably find some other way to screw it up :/
[11:05] <kiamo> HymnToLife, i have lots of cannot open device errors
[11:05] <skreet> hjmills: No, umax_pp is a parellel backend, and parpor0 is my parellel port.
[11:05] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;BvQ;JC
[11:05] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, stay here, and we can help faster
[11:05] <HymnToLife> skreet, does sane-find-scanner as root find somethinf ?
[11:05] <HymnToLife> something*
[11:05] <kiamo> HymnToLife, you recon my Xorg is configured badly?
[11:05] <skreet> HymnToLife: No, and it also says something like 'Not looking for parellel devices'
[11:05] <nissa> hi everbody
[11:05] <HymnToLife> kiamo, pastebin the log
[11:05] <skreet> Can I force it to use a certain backend?
[11:06] <kiamo> pastebin?
[11:06] <hjmills> skreet, what model scanner?
[11:06] <skreet> Umax Astra 2000p
[11:06] <Trifase> who have a bash script that paste stdout to phpfi.com o rafb.net? in utf-8 of course
[11:06] <kiamo> !pastebin
[11:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <hjmills> skreet try running 'sudo echo "option astra 2000" >> /etc/sane.d/umax_pp.conf'
[11:07] <HymnToLife> skreet, sane-find-scanner is only for USB and SCSI scanners
[11:07] <skreet> HymnToLife: I'm aware, you asked me if it found anything =)
[11:07] <wolfwalker> It doesn't work
[11:07] <skreet> hjmills: Thanks, trying -- Shall I try a scanimage -L after?
[11:07] <wolfwalker> Says no such directory
[11:07] <HymnToLife> yeah, I found that out later :p
[11:07] <hjmills> skreet, after restarting saned
[11:08] <wolfwalker> I know very well there IS such a directory
[11:08] <skreet> hjmills: It's odd that you say restarting saned, is taht an init script?
[11:08] <kiamo> HymnToLife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:08] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, cd Desktop
[11:08] <wolfwalker> I opened the terminal and typed cd desktop/src
[11:08] <skreet> hjmills: I did not find an init script fo rit.
[11:08] <wolfwalker> It said no such directory
[11:08] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, Desktop, with a capital D
[11:08] <hjmills> skreet, i think there is a sane daemon - anybody know? saned??
[11:08] <hjmills> ps -e
[11:08] <Draconicus> babis85: Shouldn't be a problem, so long as you're not shrinking the partiton.
[11:08] <Draconicus> partition*
[11:08] <babis85> Draconicus: thanks for your help
[11:09] <skreet> hjmills:I have saned, but it appears to be for networking.. Also, it doesn't do anything -- no processes started
[11:09] <Draconicus> Am I right in thinking that enlarging an ext3 or other open filesystem partiton leaves no risk of data loss, people?
[11:09] <hjmills> skreet, just go ahead with scanimage -L then
[11:09] <hjmills> skreet, my bad
[11:09] <adaptr> skreet: it may appear - you can scan over the network
[11:09] <skreet> hjmills: Trying now.
[11:09] <wolfwalker> Aaaaahh
[11:09] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault whatever I do with aptitude, apt-get or synaptic. What can I check?
[11:09] <wolfwalker> Capital
[11:09] <cyphase> Why doesn't Nautilus use GStreamer to preview sound files instead of mpg321 and vorbis-tools?
[11:09] <wolfwalker> sigh
[11:09] <wolfwalker> brb again
[11:10] <Draconicus> dabaR: Eek! What Ubuntu version?
[11:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: I tried resizing a reiser partition once. It got trashed.
[11:10] <dabaR> Dapper. PPC. Up to date, pretty much.
[11:10] <HymnToLife> skreet, have you checked this ? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html#PARPORT-GENERAL
[11:10] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: Really? I'll have to keep that in mind. I use ReiserFS. You don't mean reiser4, do you?
[11:11] <skreet> I think so, hold on.
[11:11] <georgy> skreet : config files are in /etc/sane.d
[11:11] <skreet> hjmills: No luck, same error: "http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html#PARPORT-GENERAL"
[11:11] <e_klektic> hjmills, can I have another word? I can ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com fine 40ms. It didn't work because I put http: in front as you suggested - is that a clue?
[11:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: Sorry, I forget.  Since then, I stick to ext3.
[11:11] <Draconicus> babis85: You're not using reiser, I'm sure, if you went with the default instoll. :P
[11:11] <skreet> georgy: Thanks, I have already modified the umax_pp config.
[11:11] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: But it's sloooow. :P
[11:11] <skreet> georgy: Is there another config I need to tell it which BE to use?
[11:11] <georgy> skret : ok
[11:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: How much slower, and under what conditions?
[11:12] <georgy> * : skreet
[11:12] <babis85> Draconicus: right, i am using ext3
[11:12] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: Lots of little files... Heh. :P
[11:12] <hjmills> e_klektic, oh gd point - my bad
[11:12] <babis85> Draconicus: is there a problem with reiserfs?
[11:12] <Draconicus> babis85: Read up a bit. :P
[11:12] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;=!Q"
[11:12] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWP;;!
[11:13] <Draconicus> Spee_Der: Did you mix up your keyboard layouts?
[11:13] <maxkelley> hey, in the ubuntu installer, is the partition resizer fairly dependable?
[11:13] <wolfwalker> yay, it finally accessed it!
[11:13] <sentinelxx> Anyone: If I were to create a new partition in XP and leave it as a blank format, could i then use Gparted under Ubuntu to format it into a readable file system?
[11:13] <wolfwalker> And............. gave me a lot of errors
[11:13] <Music_Shuffle> maxkelley, yeah.
[11:13] <georgy> skreet : only the umax_pp file, I guess
[11:13] <hjmills> e_klektic, can you browse the net normally? try a wget http://hjmills.co.uk/files/gpl.txt
[11:13] <erUSUL> sentinelxx: sure
[11:13] <Draconicus> maxkelley: If you're resizing ntfs or fat32, defrag the crap out of it first.
[11:13] <maxkelley> Music_Shuffle: anything I should know about using it, and is it safe? :P
[11:13] <maxkelley> ah, ok.
[11:14] <Music_Shuffle> maxkelley, nothing other than...use common sense and it'll work perfectly :)
[11:14] <sentinelxx> Sweet, because I'm planning on installing CSS with the new addition of the latest WINE release
[11:14] <maxkelley> nice :)
[11:14] <sentinelxx> but I've now ran out of space..
[11:14] <e_klektic> hjmills, good idea. I'll try that
[11:14] <sentinelxx> didnt think Ubuntu would be this quick at catching on with the CS scene :p
[11:14] <Draconicus> maxkelley: Fun thing about Windows partitions... They don't write in a straight line. Supposedly as a security feature, as I've heard, they scatter the files all over the partition. :P
[11:14] <maxkelley> pfft :P
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> thats really dumb
[11:15] <Draconicus> Makes a big mess and slows it down horribly.
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> it slows the computer down
[11:15] <maxkelley> so, defrag and shut down immediately, and reboot with the ubuntu cd?
[11:15] <Trifase> Guy, anyone have a bash script like nopaste or pastebin, that paste stdout to an online service and give the link?
[11:15] <Draconicus> That's why Windows gets slower exponentially to the amount of files on the drive.
[11:15] <Draconicus> That and the registry.
[11:15] <e_klektic> hjmills, yep, that works. I now have the gpl off your website
[11:16] <Enverex> Erm, why wont Totem play OGG Vorbis files?
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> hey i cant connect to the internet with wireless or ethernet cable
[11:16] <el_ahmo> hi mazers
[11:16] <el_ahmo> mates
[11:16] <hjmills> e_klektic, feel honoured! try and wget the file apt keeps failing on
[11:16] <el_ahmo> can anyone help me
[11:16] <babis85> Draconicus: i' ve read, but i think that it is not guaranteed that by resizing the partition there will not be data loss
[11:16] <erUSUL> !anyone > el_ahmo
[11:16] <e_klektic> hjmills, another cracker ! :-) I can fake an archive locally
[11:16] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save a session
[11:16] <el_ahmo> on ubuntu live?
[11:16] <hjmills> e_klektic, if apt will let you
[11:17] <el_ahmo> i have serial mouse
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !internet
[11:17] <hjmills> e_klektic, whats it called?
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <el_ahmo> i i have to edit xorg
[11:17] <el_ahmo> every time i boot
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !ethernet
[11:17] <Enverex> Draconicus, Yeah, it's silly because defrag moves them back into a line
[11:17] <e_klektic> hjmills, Package.gz
[11:17] <el_ahmo> maybe somehow with this
[11:17] <el_ahmo> http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/
[11:17] <ben_m> Trifase http://www.stgraber.org/?cat=5
[11:18] <hjmills> bummerz- i tried to cat a .bin and it foobared my term - any rescue crews around?
[11:18] <e_klektic> hjmills, I feel a bit silly here but, is there a copy and paste on the command line? (I don't have a mouse)
[11:18] <hjmills> e_klektic, any idea what apt does to it afterwards?
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[11:18] <HymnToLife> hjmills, just close your terminal and open a nex one
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> can someone help me
[11:18] <Trifase> Thanks ben_m :)
[11:18] <el_ahmo> anyone?
[11:18] <hjmills> e_klektic, hmmm... i dont know - thats odd
[11:18] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: type reset
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> how do i connet to the internet
[11:18] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, thanks :D
[11:19] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, what type of hardware do you have and how are they physically connected?
[11:19] <Enverex> Jowi, Maybe he's using a Coldfire? heh
[11:19] <e_klektic> hjmills, you've lost me. Give me a minute to try wget the archive
[11:19] <erUSUL> Cold_FiRe: it depends on many things router or modem? usb or ethernet? adsl or cable? do you have wireless?
[11:20] <Jowi> Enverex, if I only knew what that was :-/ (not native english)
[11:20] <sentinelxx> Anyone: Can i add free space to an already existing ext3 Ubuntu partition if the additional free space comes from the same HDD?
[11:20] <Enverex> Jowi, Motorola M68k Processors
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> ok well i have a wireless router with 4 ethernet ports at first i tryed to connet it to wifi and it half worked... i could ping google but nothing else, so i decided to connect by cable to download a network manager but then i couldnt find out how to get the ethernet cable connection to work
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> it told me permission denied
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> on firefox when i connected to any site
[11:22] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, connect to the router with a ethernet cable. run "sudo network-admin" and disable the wifi and enable ethernet. that should be it.
[11:22] <rocksori> hi all. i am thinking of installing ubuntu and was wondering can i use both ubuntu and xp on my pc?
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> ok thanx
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> yes you can
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> i do
[11:22] <hjmills> rocksori, yes
[11:22] <rocksori> ty
[11:22] <sentinelxx> rocksori, yes u can :D
[11:22] <rocksori> okok :D
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> just partiate it correctly
[11:22] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, most cable modems are locked to the MAC address of the first device that is connected to it (in this case probably the router) so it's easier just to use the router as that one seems to work.
[11:23] <Jowi> Enverex, like the one in the Amiga?
[11:23] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault whatever I do with aptitude, apt-get or synaptic. What can I check? I am using Dapper PPC.
[11:23] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save session on ubuntu live and then load it on reebot????
[11:23] <Enverex> Jowi, yes
[11:23] <e_klektic> hjmills, this doesn't make sense. I can wget the Package.gz file.Is there more config to apt than sources.list? It must be broke
[11:24] <hjmills> Ah distinctly I remember, it was in the bleak December
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> There is a windows program to reset the MAC address, I have not found one for Linux... yet
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> will that program run on wine
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> HAve not tried.
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> im going to go try that now
[11:24] <hjmills> e_klektic, i only know of apt - try sudo apt-cache clean
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> LEt me go see if I can find it for WIndows again... I am on a different PC
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> oh wait when i use the network admin camand what do i expect
[11:25] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save session on ubuntu live and then load it on reebot????
[11:25] <skreet> Can someone try a sudo cat /dev/lp0 and tell me if you get an input/output error?
[11:25] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, a window with all your network devices and settings.
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> oh
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> k
[11:25] <hjmills> el_ahmo, no - why do you want to?
[11:26] <el_ahmo> because
[11:26] <bna> why do I have to run this manually ?
[11:26] <skreet> bna: You have to run that daemon to use that card..
[11:26] <el_ahmo> every time i boot
[11:26] <georgy> skreet : input/output error
[11:26] <skreet> georgy: Thank you, can you also try sudo cat /dev/parport0
[11:26] <el_ahmo> i must edit xorg.conf file
[11:26] <el_ahmo> because my mouse is serial
[11:26] <skreet> bna: I wrote a startup script to do it for me.
[11:26] <hjmills> el_ahmo, its a live cd - you are meant to install it if you like it, not just run it from the disc all the time
[11:26] <kiamo> HymnToLife, did you get my pastebin
[11:26] <el_ahmo> and i hav to to that
[11:26] <kiamo> ?
[11:26] <eisbaer> quit
[11:26] <el_ahmo> well
[11:26] <bna> on my amiga i had a startup sequence ...
[11:27] <el_ahmo> i tgouht
[11:27] <bna> hehe... where do I do that ?
[11:27] <el_ahmo> that there is a way to do that
[11:27] <el_ahmo> like in knoppix
[11:27] <skreet> bna: Ever written a startup script before?
[11:27] <georgy> skreet : no such file or repository
[11:27] <skreet> georgy: Thanks.
[11:27] <bna> nope
[11:27] <creative> hy, could you help me, how can i restore grub after a windows reinstall ?
[11:27] <skreet> anyone here using parport, that might be able to try a sudo cat /dev/parport0
[11:27] <Jowi> el_ahmo, no. ubuntu-live cd is not meant to work like that.
[11:27] <terabel> creative: you need a live cd
[11:27] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault with aptitude, apt-get and synaptic. More info at http://pastebin.ca/325092. Thanks.
[11:28] <creative> yesd
[11:28] <creative> i running it now
[11:28] <Jowi> !grub | creative
[11:28] <ubotwo> creative: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:28] <creative> i dont have floppy and cd :(
[11:28] <bna> skreet: any idea ?
[11:28] <skreet> bna: I'd love to help you write one, but i'm working on alot of stuff right now..
[11:28] <ben_m> hmm, I get gtk errors from almost every program, what can I do?:D
[11:29] <skreet> bna: If you read other startup scripts, you may understand the formatting.
[11:29] <Jowi> creative, not possible without booting into a linux system
[11:29] <erUSUL> !bugs > dabaR
[11:29] <driv[nfl] > How do I create a user and give it the most minimal amount of access possible?
[11:29] <bna> sure but where to put the file ?
[11:29] <Oriyen> how can I get ieee80211 subsystem to install
[11:29] <jasong5> how duz one get dvds to play on linux
[11:29] <bna> rc.local ?
[11:29] <Oriyen> it keeps giving me errors on the make cmd
[11:29] <skreet> jasong5: Check ubuntuguide.org
[11:29] <skreet> They have a how-to on it.
[11:30] <jrib> !dvd | jasong5
[11:30] <ubotwo> jasong5: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:30] <tomasso> anyone ever configured a cvs server?
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> SYstem INfo for Windows Free for Non-Commercial USers.
[11:30] <creative> when i try the find stage command i get this ->
[11:30] <creative> Error 15: File not found
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[11:30] <ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:31] <Jowi> driv[nfl] , "sudo users-admin" and create a new user. then click on the "User pribileges" tab and unselect everything.
[11:31] <rocksori> i was wondering can call of duty 2 be played with linux?
[11:31] <sssk> ./ connect #ubuntu-russian
[11:31] <skreet> rocksori: After alot of  headache.. check www.transgamer.org
[11:31] <adaptr> failed!
[11:31] <rocksori> :)
[11:32] <sssk>  #ubuntu-russian
[11:32] <rocksori> well xp is boring nice to learn something new
[11:32] <Jowi> !ru sssk
[11:32] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:32] <mnoir> sssk: interesting command.  maybe try /join #ubuntu-are you ?
[11:32] <Jowi> !ru | sssk
[11:32] <ubotwo> sssk:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:32] <sssk> .\connect #ubuntu-russian
[11:32] <adaptr> rocksori: how will you learn somethgin new if you play the same windows games ?
[11:32] <LjL> sssk: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:32] <Jowi> sssk, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:32] <rocksori> heh :D well usually i dont learn anything from games... i ment i will learn how to use linux
[11:33] <skreet> anyone intereted in helping me with a umax_pp problem (SANE): http://pastebin.ca/325098
[11:33] <sssk> thanx
[11:33] <dabaR> erUSUL: Thanks, fixed:)
[11:33] <hjmills> how do i run a command on boot on my server?
[11:34] <erUSUL> dabaR: the problem was? (out of curiosity)
[11:34] <Jowi> hjmills, put the script in /etc/init.d and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d
[11:34] <hjmills> Jowi, thanks
[11:35] <dabaR> erUSUL: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/16467/comments/1 is what I tried.
[11:35] <hjmills> Jowi, would using sudo update-rc on it do the symlinking for me?
[11:35] <kiamo> please can someone take a look at my Xorg.0.log and help me work out why X keeps restarting when i play video files
[11:35] <kiamo> ?
[11:35] <Jowi> hjmills, yes
[11:36] <hjmills> Jowi, score! thanks!
[11:36] <Jowi> you're welcome hjmills
[11:37] <erUSUL> dabaR: i suspected a corrupted db, but even when feeded with corrupted files programs shouldn't crash and the bug must be reported... (it ain't a windows program XD )
[11:37] <jasong5> it keeps telling me i need  libdvdcss and looks like it is installed
[11:38] <kiamo> please can someone take a look at my Xorg.0.log and help me work out why X keeps restarting when i play video files? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:38] <DBFT> hey I cant play my MP3 files - I guess I need a mp3 decoder?
[11:39] <hjmills> !mp3 | DBFT
[11:39] <ubotwo> DBFT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell DBFT about mp3 | DBFT, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:39] <Jowi> jasong5, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[11:39] <DBFT> thankyou :)
[11:41] <rebz> is there a quick way to be able to tell if i have edgy or fiesty?
[11:41] <LjL> rebz: lsb_release -a
[11:41] <HymnToLife> rebz, uname -r
[11:41] <rebz> thanks
[11:41] <rellik_> which package do I need to install to get flash to work in firefox?
[11:41] <rebz> HymnToLife, : tried that, but thats just the kernel
[11:41] <HymnToLife> though LjL's will tel you that directly
[11:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rellik_ about flash | rellik_, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:41] <e_klektic> hjmills, bed time. Thx for help
[11:41] <HymnToLife> rebz, 2.6.15 = Dapper, 2.6.17 = Edgy
[11:41] <rebz> ah :)
[11:42] <kiamo> HymnToLife, did you take a look?
[11:42] <hjmills> e_klektic, sure :D
[11:42] <HymnToLife> kiamo, nope, sorry, could you give the link again ?
[11:42] <kiamo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:42] <kiamo> no worries
[11:42] <kiamo> thanks for any help at all :)
[11:43] <mage> I see edgy doesn't use an inittab, but files in /etc/event.d how to I reload?
[11:43] <ikonia> mage its called upstart
[11:43] <ikonia> !upstart >mage
[11:44] <hjmills> !upstart>me
[11:44] <ubotwo> hjmills: Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[11:44] <hjmills> !upstart>hjmills
[11:44] <LjL> !msg the bot | hjmills
[11:44] <ubotwo> hjmills: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:44] <tomasso> i compiled cvs on linux, can anyone please tell me why every time I try to login with a valid user it keeps asking me user/password ?
[11:44] <ikonia> tomasso: join #cvs
[11:45] <vertz> Hi, i have a problem with my locales, i cant get norwegian charatures to work.. anyone know how to make them work?
[11:45] <ikonia> !utf
[11:45] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:45] <ikonia> !utf8
[11:45] <vertz> i got them working, but then my whole system turned norwegian :(
[11:46] <slyfox> Anyone knows how to reset Beryl settings to default ?
[11:46] <slyfox> sorry wrong channel
[11:46] <ant> anyone point me in the right direction of getting avi's to play in totem or anyother player?
[11:46] <erUSUL> !boot > erUSUL
[11:46] <LjL> slyfox: i suppose deleting the ~/.beryl directory would mostly do the trick
[11:46] <LjL> !msg the bot | erUSUL
[11:46] <ubotwo> erUSUL: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:46] <leon_> @ant: install totem-xine
[11:46] <ikonia> ant search for "restricted formats" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <ant> thx
[11:48] <Dreamglider> Ok i got 6.06 installed without problems
[11:48] <ikonia> great
[11:48] <Dreamglider> yea took long enought tho :)
[11:48] <slyfox> LjL: that worked, thank you.
[11:48] <erUSUL> LjL: i know ;) simply didn't know that ubotu had changed his name (so i hesitated to msg ubotwo)
[11:49] <Dreamglider> i tried the 64bit version, it was a nogo
[11:49] <rocksori> hmm where can i find the amazing xgl desktop?
[11:49] <LjL> erUSUL: it's ok - it hasn't anyway
[11:49] <LjL> !bot | erUSUL
[11:49] <ubotwo> erUSUL: This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:49] <ikonia> rocksori: look for xgl on the wiki
[11:49] <Khem> how can I make default shell to be bash on edgy ?
[11:49] <rocksori> ty ikonia
[11:49] <ikonia> Khem: it is
[11:49] <Khem> I am getting errors with all my scripts
[11:49] <Khem> !/bin/sh
[11:49] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:49] <Dreamglider> how can i install ATI drivers on my pc ?
[11:49] <LjL> !dash | khem
[11:49] <ubotwo> khem: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[11:50] <Khem> ubotwo: yeah thats a PITA
[11:50] <ubotwo> Khem: Error: "yeah" is not a valid command.
[11:50] <ikonia> edgy sucks
[11:50] <mage> ewwww, dash
[11:50] <Khem> I got tonnes of scripts
[11:50] <LjL> Khem: then make /bin/sh point to bash, i suppose. and perhaps expect things to brreak
[11:50] <ikonia> LjL: that works normally
[11:51] <ikonia> bash is supposed to be bourne complient
[11:51] <Khem> LjL: I will rather not do that
[11:51] <chiarato> hi, everyone! I've read every piece of document I could find on the net about my usb adaptor wusb54g i've put rt2570 on the blacklist and got ndiswrapper -i rt2500.inf installed i've got ubuntu edgy 6.10 when i use ifconfig and iwconfig I have the wlan0 working and recognized but i can't connect to the net please someone help!!
[11:51] <mage> why would things break? dash is supposed to be 100% posix
[11:51] <erUSUL> Khem: just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash' and be done with it
[11:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Khem: But really, since sh != bash (never has), if you are writing bash scripts, it should have been #!/bin/bash all along.
[11:51] <ikonia> mage: it blows
[11:51] <LjL> Khem: well, make up your mind - either you do want bash as default or you don't :)
[11:51] <Jowi> Khem, use "usermod -s"
[11:51] <abo> hi
[11:51] <mage> ikonia: I know dash blows, just should be no trouble going from dash to bash
[11:52] <Khem> sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash is ok
[11:52] <Khem> so I chose dash not to be /bin/sh
[11:52] <Dreamglider> in terminal how do i see what kind of CPU i have
[11:53] <ikonia> Dreamglider: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:53] <ikonia> Dreamglider: just use the gui though
[11:53] <Khem> EnsignRedshirt: yeah I am porting stuff from RedHat over
[11:53] <qos> hey guys ...
[11:53] <LjL> Dreamglider: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:53] <jasong5> Ok thank you all for the dvd playing help
[11:53] <jasong5> now
[11:53] <chiarato> hi, everyone! I've read every piece of document I could find on the net about my usb adaptor wusb54g i've put rt2570 on the blacklist and got ndiswrapper -i rt2500.inf installed i've got ubuntu edgy 6.10 when i use ifconfig and iwconfig I have the wlan0 working and recognized but i can't connect to the net please someone help!!
[11:54] <jasong5> how duz  put icon ont he desk top  in ubuntu
[11:54] <ikonia> jasong5: read some basic howto docs
[11:54] <erUSUL> chiarato: why are you using ndiswrapper if native drives exist and afaik work?
[11:54] <Dreamglider> thanks
[11:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jasong5 about icons | jasong5, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:54] <DBFT> is it possible to hide an application from the menu (I dont want java web start appearing with the web browser etc.)
[11:54] <Dreamglider> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
[11:54] <Phuzion> how do I install a .deb file?
[11:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell phuzion about software | phuzion, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:55] <chiarato> erUSUL: ??
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> DBFT: System > Preferences > Menu layout
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamglider: we don't need to see that
[11:55] <Dreamglider> Phuzion, try double klick on it :)
[11:55] <Dreamglider> it should work
[11:55] <Phuzion> Dreamglider, headless machine
[11:55] <erUSUL> chiarato: whay have you blacklisted the native drivers?
[11:55] <erUSUL> chiarato: why have you blacklisted the native drivers?
[11:55] <Dreamglider> Phuzion, sorry
[11:55] <Phuzion> No problem
[11:55] <Dreamglider> ikonia, i need a kernel for the cpu
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamglider: we spoke about this before
[11:55] <LjL> ikonia, to be honest, i don't believe "read some basic docs" is a sensible answer to any questions
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[11:56] <qos> i want to move all dirs in my dir "test1" to "test2", but there are some dirs in "test2" which are named as the ones which should be moved. so i get "mv: cannot overwrite directory..." ... how do i move it so that the dirs get moved into each other?
[11:56] <ikonia> byeee
[11:56] <hjmills> yay!
[11:56] <chiarato> erUSUL: so i can get my wlan0 apper on the admnis networktools as my wireless adapter!
[11:56] <worldwide> After installing Ubuntu, I can not get my box to boot from CD..  Why?
[11:56] <heanol> why is firefox fonts antialiased/smoothtyped/cleartyped/whatever and nothing else in my gnome?
[11:56] <ikonia> worldwide: your bios is probably wrong
[11:57] <worldwide> ikonia:  How do I change them in Linux?
[11:57] <jasong5> how to  doc are ware
[11:57] <ikonia> worldwide: you're bios is nothing to do with linux - its on your motherboard
[11:57] <chiarato> erUSUL: the reason I did that is because I can't connect to the net and that is what I found on the help.wiki site
[11:58] <EnsignRedshirt> qos: rsync might be able to do something like that, but I don't know the specific options that would do it.
[11:58] <worldwide> ikonia:  Well they seemed to be fine locating the LiveCD to install ubuntu.. Now it won't.
[11:58] <ikonia> world wide - your boot options are nothing to do with ubuntu/linux/windows
[11:58] <qos> EnsignRedshirt, arrrrrrrrrgh. could not someone implement it? its a missing and very useful feature :)
[11:59] <worldwide> ikonia:  Why/how would they change after an install?
[11:59] <ikonia> worldwide: don't know
[11:59] <chiarato> erUSUL: are there?
[11:59] <DBFT> in the Menu Layout thing - is it possible to move an item into a directory rather than having to recreate it then delete it?
[11:59] <chiarato> erUSUL: *are u there?
[12:00] <jasong5> i am looking how to put  the trash on the desktop  any idea
[12:00] <ikonia> jasong5: read some basic docs from ubuntu.com
[12:00] <bluefox83> hey, you guys know the little "add to panel" option? how do i add stuff to the list in that?
[12:00] <kiamo> HymnToLife, you around anymore ?
[12:00] <LjL> !icons | jasong5, i already answered i think
[12:00] <ubotwo> jasong5, i already answered i think: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)