=== ciscosurfer [n=magic@216-80-124-12.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === ciscosurfer [n=magic@216-80-124-12.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] Hello, is there a specific setting to let Thunar show on the desktop? [12:36] ciscosurfer, Like a launcher on the desktop? [12:36] somerville32: yeah, i suppose...is there an equivalent to gconf-editor for xfce? [12:36] No. [12:36] bummer [12:36] well, if it uses gconf, you can use gconf-editor. :-) [12:36] Just simply create a desktop launcher :) [12:37] ok [12:38] i just right-clicked and xfcedesktop just closed. [12:38] hmm [12:38] Wonderful :) [12:38] alt+f2 [12:38] xfdesktop [12:39] click ok [12:39] What version of Xubuntu are you using? [12:39] whatever comes with xubuntu-desktop [12:39] sorry [12:39] misread your question [12:39] ...how can I find this out? [12:39] nm [12:39] version 4.3.99.1 (Xfce 4.4 BETA2) [12:40] ok, got it back up and running [12:40] that was weird [12:40] What version of Xubuntu are you using? ie. 6.06, 6.10? [12:40] Edgy 6.10 [12:40] When you right click, do you get an applications menu or context menu? [12:41] yeah, everything is fine again [12:41] context menu [12:41] Ok [12:41] Just create a launcher [12:41] ie. [12:41] Thunar [12:41] got it [12:41] thanks [12:41] np [12:41] another question if i may... [12:41] Feel free to hang here :) [12:41] Sure! :) [12:42] i went into preferences within Thunar to make items open on single click...inside Thunar, single-click works just fine...what about on my desktop? [12:42] before i pave over this distro for YDL, are there any last words from the xubuntu crowd?? [12:42] bad_cables, Whats wrong? [12:42] my video out [12:42] on an iBook [12:42] ciscosurfer, Sorry. Doesn't apply to desktop. [12:43] hurumph [12:43] okay [12:43] and nobody cares because Jobbs is mad at motorola so PPC is dead [12:43] so what controls the desktop? like nautilus does for gnome? [12:43] ciscosurfer, Nothing right now, lol [12:44] i mean... people on the ubuntu board said the problem was impossible to fix [12:44] somerville32: okay....may I ask what you personally like about Xubuntu? [12:44] there is a patch for the 2.4 kernels but not the modern kernels? [12:44] bad_cables, 2.4 is still modern. If using 2.4 will fix your problem, you could always just use the 2.4 release series instead of 2.6 [12:45] is there a xubuntu live disk that has this ? [12:45] ciscosurfer, It works fast, looks good, functional, and is cool :) [12:45] or now that i have installed it, can i just update the kernel to 2.4? [12:45] bad_cables, How would you install it? [12:45] i dont know === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu [12:46] i mean, i am not a linux kernel hacker, i am a musician [12:46] hehe [12:46] somerville32: I am mainly a gnome user...tried kubuntu, and really didn't like it...and the guys over on #kubuntu were anything but friendly...saying to Google this and to Google that....I much prefer Xubuntu over Kubuntu... [12:46] i have the curse of having to have a website with my mp3's on it... which means that hosting doesnt work for me [12:46] i have to serve [12:46] i used to actually serve beos [12:46] and it worked! [12:46] bad_cables, You could always compile the server from source [12:47] Or you might be able to find a debian package online [12:47] well the reason that i paved over my website with PHP and Pearl working was that i thought that someone that supported PPC a little better would have fixed this [12:47] i mean, what i really need is to find someone who knows this problem [12:47] somerville32: is there a way (short of signing in using a different user) that I can customize my desktop for Xubuntu and not have it look they same when I log back in to Gnome? [12:48] icons, etc. [12:48] It should be separate already [12:48] let me check again...brb === ciscosurfer [n=magic@216-80-124-12.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:49] somerville32: well, the launcher I created under Xubuntu now shows up on my Ubuntu desktop [12:49] Thats to be expected. [12:50] ~/Desktop is the desktop for both Gnome, Kubuntu, and Xfce4 [12:50] that's what I mean though...no way to make the two sessions separate is this regard (again, short of creating a sep. user).... [12:50] okay [12:50] gotcha [12:50] You can most likely configure gnome to use a different folder as the desktop === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [12:51] so, I should just create a sep. user if I want true separation [12:51] somerville32: you can [12:51] ciscosurfer, I suppose but I don't see why you would want it [12:51] somerville32: anyway, you have been most helpful and I appreciate the time you taken to coach me :-) [12:51] No problem! :) [12:52] The more the merrier [12:52] somerville32: :-D [12:52] does xfce have it's own xfce-look like kde and gnome? [12:52] lemme check [12:53] beautiful >> http://www.xfce-look.org/ [12:53] :) === Rav1 [n=vashi@72-160-255-81.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-96-54-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [12:54] Hello? [12:56] I require a bit of help, and I'm sure it is rather easy to solve my issuance, but I've yet to find anything detailing how to fix it. [12:57] !ask [12:57] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [12:57] I would like to know how one may manually edit the applications menu. Simple, no? [12:58] (I apologize) [12:58] Hey, it's cool [12:58] I'm actually not sure myself - it's not as easy as one would think [12:58] i've seen several people ask, only to be told by the experts of the channel that it's not an easy task. [12:59] Perhaps someone like somerville32 could help you [12:59] Alright, thank you. === ciscosurfer [n=magic@216-80-124-12.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] somerville32: you there? [01:01] somerville32: how do I install themes? [01:03] nm, got it [01:04] ciscosurfer, Sorry. Glade to see you got it installed though :) === somerville32 is looking at the themes right now too and is thinking of trying a few out. [01:04] thanks...trying to get accustomed to using xfce [01:05] forgot that window manager and user interface was not located in the same place [01:05] loose ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:05] sorry [01:05] TD? [01:05] damn playoffs [01:05] which game? [01:05] there's only one left [01:05] patriots... and indiana [01:05] classic [01:05] haha, i know....:-) [01:06] bad_cables, Feel free to discuss the playoffs with others in #xubuntu-offtopic - our channel for chit-chat and offtopic discussion :) [01:06] Chicago Vs....... [01:06] manning with that ring lust, he's never had one [01:06] sorry [01:06] No problem :) [01:06] if i found a kernel that can be rsync'd can you guys guide me through installing it? [01:07] its a 2.4 kernel [01:07] or do i need to download a new version of xubuntu? [01:07] somerville32: is there a way to install an entire theme (interface, windows, icons....all in one step?) [01:07] somerville32: like in gnome? [01:07] bad_cables, I could try and help but I've never done it before myself. [01:08] ciscosurfer, I've never even changed the default theme so I might be a bad person to ask on that one ;] [01:08] np [01:08] haha, switched to the RedmondXP window theme, forgot I had switched it, and for a second, thought I was on XP [01:08] hahahah [01:09] well i can download this kernel, but i dont know anything about compiling it and installing it [01:09] ah, ubuntu, ya little devil ya [01:09] bad_cables: let me check my bookmarks for some good threads to help you on your way (kernel compilation, etc.) [01:09] bad_cables: hold pls... [01:11] bad_cables: this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158) says it is for compiling the 2.6.18 kernel, but I think it will help get you started [01:13] Note: You can replace "386" with anything you want. Like "k7" or "686." [01:13] what that heck do i do for a mac? [01:15] power-ps? [01:15] i mean... power-pc? [01:15] or PPC? [01:15] bad_cables: let me take a quick look [01:16] If you have an extremely slow processor, you may have to wait 3-4 hours for the kernel to compile [01:16] wait... dont bother [01:16] im not compiling anything on that G3 500 [01:16] not that is 50MB!! [01:16] by that time the game would be over and i would be out of beer [01:17] waiste of time [01:17] someone out there has a distro of linux that has this working [01:17] they say try 4.1 in #yellowdog [01:17] donno if that is true [01:17] sorry to complain guys [01:18] you know... the whole reason that i want to use this mac is that it is quiet [01:18] i would never run a web server in a music studio if i couldnt shut a rack case and not hear it [01:19] Set up a tape room [01:19] closet [01:19] already did it [01:19] Didn't work? [01:19] its just... i mean, i donno, there is also the watts out of the wall [01:19] a mac is less [01:20] guess it doesnt matter that much [01:21] yeah, i guess i know my problem, [01:21] i need to just break down and sell this thing [01:21] forget it [01:21] :/ [01:21] intel is just too popular [01:21] ok guys... later [01:22] have alot of fun :) [01:22] bad_cables: have you tried looking through the threads and posts here: [01:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=335d4db02aee24ecec3a902fb9ae617c&f=133 [01:22] yeah.. for days [01:22] imean, i have found the patches [01:23] like i said, but now that i see what is involved, i should just use a PC [01:24] Why are you trying to use Linux as a DAW, anyways? [01:25] DAW? [01:25] you mean why not use mac os? [01:26] bad_cables: Digital Audio Workstation === gunny [n=tom@ppp225-151.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:26] im using PC for that [01:27] PureDyne Asork and Apodio [01:27] --right, you're wanting to serve out your own mp3 content, correct? === gunny is now known as tom01 [01:27] right [01:27] which is why i should just use another PC to do it [01:27] i mean, at this point i have too [01:27] yeah. well, if you can't find what you need on the forums, i suppose you can always try YDL === tom01 [n=tom@ppp225-151.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [01:27] well i am downloading now [01:28] i will try it [01:28] if i can close the lid and get it, then i will use it [01:28] different distros work better for certain situations, architectures, etc. === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp225-151.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === decaelo [n=decaelo@CPE00500471c243-CM0011ae8dd0a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:28] if not... im gonna take this thing to the apple corp office and throw it throw it through their front window [01:28] hmm. that prob. won't go over well. lol [01:28] sounds like a plan. [01:29] ;) [01:29] thanks for the help... [01:29] appreciate it [01:29] if i do need to install to a PC i will do a xubuntu quick and dirty ;) [01:29] latah! === bad_cables [n=vjnw809@adsl-149-58-175.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #xubuntu [] === ciscosurfer is away: going to store, be back in a bit...:-) === nighthawk02 [n=ray@201.227.5.75] has joined #xubuntu === nighthawk02 [n=ray@201.227.5.75] has left #xubuntu [] === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@212.49.210.38] has joined #xubuntu === poisonpotion_ [n=poison@203.19.127.105] has joined #xubuntu === poisonpot [n=poison@203.19.127.105] has joined #xubuntu === Rav1 [n=vashi@72-160-255-81.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu [] === noalternative [n=noaltern@205.241.140.211] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === psykidellic [n=psykidel@12-217-239-18.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === fleischwurst [n=fleischw@i577BDE62.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:16] xfce 4.4 will be released in a few hours [02:16] :) === somerville32 cheers. [02:17] woot [02:19] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19869&package_id=187881&release_id=480300 [02:19] there [02:19] Schweet! : [02:19] :) === somerville32 gets packaging. [02:20] gpocentek, crimsun: 4.4 is released :) [02:20] ::::))) [02:20] not offically yet i think [02:20] but who cares :D [02:20] hehe [02:20] fleischwurst, Are you a xfce4 developer or just a keen observer? [02:21] observer :P [02:21] i dont even know what an observer is but yes i am [02:21] :D [02:22] :) [02:23] i think im gonna compile it now === somerville32 grins. [02:24] why? [02:24] Because I'm happy :) [02:24] :-) [02:29] xubuntu users let your version be counted at ubuntu counter. [02:29] http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.194] has joined #xubuntu [02:30] Xubuntu rocks! :) [02:30] Woot! :) [02:30] w00t [02:30] compiled :P [02:30] now starting... [02:30] :D [02:31] It sure does [02:31] the dapper version seems just as nice as gnome ubuntu [02:32] I just got an new computer and I think I will install xubuntu on it too, just to make it go fast. [02:34] :D [02:34] Xubuntu is good like that === Commander|away [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:36] are xfce goodies included in the xfce installer? [02:36] no, or? [02:37] I don't think so [02:37] xfce-goodies-4.4.0-installer.run [02:37] ahh [02:37] :) [02:38] so 4.4.0 will be included in xubuntu feisty? [02:42] Yup === ciscosurfer is back (gone 01:13:00) [02:44] ciscosurfer, You should disable that ;] [02:44] :) [02:44] somerville32: disable marked away? [02:45] ?? [02:46] Sure [02:46] :) [02:46] why? [02:46] because it would spam the channel if everyone would do it [02:47] :p [02:47] hmm...ok === jjtechno2 [n=glen@c-68-53-206-214.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:55] hello....i have been trying to get my old 3com vortex card recognised by ubuntu but I have failed in last 2 days....somebody suggested to compile from source but I think thats also not possible as it requires packages from internet which i cant connect as the network card itself is not working....also my USB device is not getting recognised so that only way to transfer data is through burned CD which is simply a pain.....i have ask [02:55] ed in all IRC rooms related to ubuntu but nobody has been able to figure out whats the issue, also the card was working good when my prof. was using it though it had 2.6.11 kernel and now Ubuntu comes with 2.6.17-10 generic kernel.....so is there anything that i can try other then buying a new network card? [02:56] If you do buy a new card, get a realtek 8139 based one. They're practically universally supported. [02:56] new homepage is online [02:56] :p [02:56] www.xfce.org :) [02:59] Did they redo the entire thing for 4.4? [02:59] ya === fleischwurst [n=fleischw@i577BDE62.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] looks like rc2 [03:01] ;P [03:02] duh [03:02] ;p [03:04] but somehow its not fully translated into german :< === noalternative [n=noaltern@205.241.140.211] has left #xubuntu [] === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.194] has joined #xubuntu === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@R77b1.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === psykidellic [n=psykidel@12-217-239-18.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === area_ [n=area@209.184.108.100] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === psykidellic [n=psykidel@12-217-239-18.client.mchsi.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:22] test === willuminate [n=willumin@203.19.127.105] has joined #xubuntu === tecywiz121 [n=chatzill@208.96.82.7] has joined #xubuntu === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:28] HELP! module 8139too doesn't work, it gives error code -16 on boot [03:29] Hi tecywiz121 [03:29] Does it cause you any issues? [03:30] I can't get online [03:31] ah. [03:31] What network card do you have? [03:32] realtech 8139 (I think) [03:32] **realtek [03:33] It may use the 8139cp module. === ardya [i=ardy@daw1.kritek.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:34] ok.... [03:35] whike xorg seems to be broken somewhat, it seems gnome and xfce won't do Virtual desktop, while wmaker, and fluxbox will [03:36] pumpernickle, that one tells me to use the too one [03:39] ? === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-51-39-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] Does the error message provide any more details? [03:47] no, it just says that module 8139too failed with error -16 (not exactly that, but very close) [03:50] What happens if you boot in verbose mode? [03:52] do any of the dev team come here? [03:53] ardya, Dev team of Xubuntu or Xfce4? [03:54] either/or [03:55] I cant see this as a bug [03:55] ardya, How can I help you? :) [04:01] you can't [04:01] ardya, Why not? [04:02] I explained the situation earlier, and you didnt know [04:02] Oh, right right [04:03] apparently there's a bug in xorg that prevents ctrl alt +/- cycling of resolutions [04:04] and for some reason gnome and xfce wont use a virtual desktop [04:05] Maybe if you qualified what you meant by Virtual Desktops, we'd be able to help more. [04:05] the latter may be a feature desicion the maintainers made to please winpupz [04:06] a virtual desktop is one whose desktop real estate is larger than the viewable area of your screen [04:06] And then there is usually a pager in the panel that allows you switch to different desktops? [04:07] And/or you can just glide to the other desktops by moving your mouse to the corner of the screen? [04:07] its not related to how many desktops [04:07] its related to the size [04:07] I use a desktop size of 1600x1200, and a resoluition of 1280x1024 [04:07] How does that work? === willuminate_ [n=luminant@203.19.127.105] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] so when your mouse hits the edge of your screen, the desktop slides over to its true edge, not the edge of the screen === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.194] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] Does the whole thing kind of scroll? [04:09] anyway, i appreciate the effort, but not knowing what it is isn't helping me [04:09] hehe [04:09] its been a feature of X11 for a long time === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-141-41-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [04:17] pumpernickle, sorry for the delay, how would I do that? === xfrost [n=xfrost@200.52.219.124] has joined #xubuntu === poisonpot [n=luminant@203.19.127.105] has joined #xubuntu [04:21] tecywiz121: Remove 'quiet' and 'splash' from the grub entry. [04:22] pumpernickle, ok, I will do that and see if I can find anything, its off and unhooked atm === ardya [i=ardy@daw1.kritek.net] has left #xubuntu [] === cryosphere [n=d_meyers@adsl-70-240-15-234.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #xubuntu [] [04:41] xcfe 4.4.0 was released [04:43] We know :) === torist [n=linux@adsl-70-241-11-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] i need some help with my X11 when SSHing [04:44] somerville32: got a question [04:44] somerville32, whats the easiest way to install, in the repositories the only have 3.9.2 [04:44] somerville32: is it possible to modify my system sounds? [04:45] bigfuzzyjesus, You wait for Feisty to be released ;] [04:45] ciscosurfer, I believe so. [04:46] somerville32: how? [04:46] i have the error message if someone can help diagnose this X11 / SSH prob [04:46] or PM me if you can help so i don't take up space in this irc room [04:46] somerville32, but i dont wanna :( [04:47] somerville32, when is the scheduled release [04:47] ciscosurfer, Actually, maybe not. [04:47] ciscosurfer, What do you mean by "system sounds"? === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [04:47] bigfuzzyjesus, You could upgrade to Feisty and then just wait a few days for it to be uploaded. [04:48] Feisty has 3.99.2 [04:48] torist: Just go for it. If anyone sees something they can help you with, they'll answer. [04:48] on xfce-look.org, they have a section for System Sounds. Just wondering how I can modify events, etc. [04:48] err... 4.3.99, sorry [04:48] ciscosurfer, I saw that too [04:48] ciscosurfer, And thats why I said I believed so [04:48] ciscosurfer, But actually how to do it... I'm not sure. [04:48] X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'gaim' lost its connection to the display :10.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application. [04:48] somerville32: ok...i'll keep looking. maybe we could ask the channel for help as well :-) [04:49] got that error after a sudo ssh -X user@host (also tried -Y) [04:49] ciscosurfer, Try asking in #xfce [04:49] somerville32: ok [04:50] somerville32, how stable is feisty [04:50] anyone seen this problem before? [04:51] bigfuzzyjesus, Depends on which day you ask === o9 [n=o9@adsl-149-58-175.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:52] somerville32, how troublesome has it been for you [04:52] bigfuzzyjesus, a few quirks [04:53] somerville32, any examples [04:53] is there another room for X11? or is this right place? [04:54] somerville32: apparently, there is no way to modify any sounds...b/c there is not way to do so [04:54] bigfuzzyjesus, Well, if my network connection gets disconnected, the computer freezes with a kernel panic :P [04:54] ciscosurfer, I saw ;] [04:55] :-) [04:56] somerville32, well that happens frequently with me so i will stick with edgy eft for now :) [04:57] bigfuzzyjesus, It doesn't happen to everyone [04:57] any suggestions of another room that could help? [04:58] #openssh ? [04:58] somerville32, oh well i like the "supported-ness" of EE [04:58] i am having X11 problems as well [04:58] torist, VNC? [04:59] tried that [04:59] same error [04:59] slightly different [04:59] but same pretty much [04:59] gimmie the run down on the prob? [04:59] torist, No, I mean the channel :P [04:59] im not a linux pro... just an enduser [04:59] oh don't know then [04:59] oh, ok [05:00] what is the prob? [05:00] o9: i try this sudo ssh -X -Y user@host [05:00] and i get this when i try to run something with a gui, say mousepad: [05:00] X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'mousepad' lost its connection to the display :10.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application. [05:00] i have forwarding enabled in the sshd_config file also [05:01] wait... i don't know much about ssh because i dont use that [05:01] i know it is like telnet with extra modern features [05:02] so you are trying to log into your system remote and run apps? [05:02] yeah [05:02] torist: why do you use sudo? [05:02] see what confuses me is that X is graffix [05:02] and VNC doesn't work either [05:02] because it can't forward the X [05:02] fowarding X is out of my league... sorry man [05:03] i would say it sounds like the remote user doesn't have permissions?? [05:03] but i dont know [05:04] did you try the ubuntu/debian forums to find similar problems? [05:04] tried logging on as room also [05:04] tried google [05:04] there were others with my problem [05:04] but no one had a solution [05:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1361790#post1361790 [05:04] i am trying this now [05:04] there are brick walls to problems [05:04] tourist can you just connect to ssh [05:04] linux cant know everything [05:05] and why do you use sudo [05:05] i can do ssh [05:05] no gui though [05:05] trying without sudo [05:05] that should work... ssh is just like telnet [05:05] same error [05:05] i can SSH, just can't open programs with GUIs without getting that error [05:05] torist, why do you need to remotely run gaim [05:06] i tried mousepad too [05:06] i can't get any GUI program running over SSH [05:06] torist, do you need to [05:06] Guys... [05:06]