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dopemy skippy is broken12:15
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InuDuelistPssst, anyone wanna help me mount my windows partition really quickly?12:19
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stdinInuDuelist: what's the problem ?12:20
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InuDuelistJust forgot the command to mount my windows drive.12:21
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stdinInuDuelist: do you want it to mount automatically, or just for now ?12:21
InuDuelistAutomatically.12:21
stdinok, you need to add a line to /etc/fstab12:21
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stdinopen it with Alt-F2, kdesu kate /etc/fstab12:22
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stdinwhat's the device name of the windows partition ?12:22
InuDuelistUh?12:23
stdineg /dev/hda1 ?12:23
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mau12ntfs12:23
InuDuelistProbably hdb112:23
InuDuelistAnd NTFS.12:23
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stdinand where do you want it to be mounted to ?12:23
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InuDuelistProbably /media/windows12:24
malikwhats the differens between flash plugin and shockwave plugin?12:24
stdinInuDuelist: so you need a line like "/dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs auto,umask=0000 0 0"12:24
stdinmalik: shockwave is more for games, and isn't available on linux12:25
InuDueliststdin, how do I add it to fstab?12:25
malikooh ok then12:25
stdinInuDuelist: I told you to open it with, Alt-F2, kdesu kate /etc/fstab12:26
InuDuelistOh, right.12:26
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InuDuelistDo I just stick /dev/hdb1       /media/windows ntfs auto,umask=0000 0 0 to the end of it?12:26
stdinInuDuelist: yep12:26
InuDuelistOK thanks12:26
stdinInuDuelist: then just type "sudo mount /media/windows" to mount it for now, after that it will mount at boot12:27
linux_galorestdin: Im suprised kubuntu doesnt have the fstab editor plugin for kcontrol, its been out for ages12:27
malikstdin: when i click on .bin or .wma files in konqi kate starts opens the files automatically and corrupts it............how do i fix that?12:27
stdinlinux_galore: it probably dose, but I never used it, so I can't give instructions on it :P12:28
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mau12Please, help me. How can I boot my pc again with an windows cd if I had installed grub and after that I hve installed ubuntu as a unique os?12:28
linux_galorestdin: no, its not there by default, not sure if the plugin is on the repo though12:28
stdinmalik: you need to add a file association with it, in Settings -> Configure Konqueror12:28
stdinlinux_galore: System Settings -> Disk and Filesystems :)12:29
linux_galorestdin: aah they have put it in systemsettings12:29
linux_galorestdin: I never use the thing12:29
malikstdin: you mean associate an action with kate or with those filetypes so that kate doesnt open em?12:30
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stdinlinux_galore: I'm more of a CLI person :)12:30
gan|y|medhi12:30
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mau12hi gan12:30
dopecan someone help me with my skippy12:30
stdinmalik: in konqueror, so kate wont open them12:30
linux_galorestdin: same here, too many late night with ssh and a dodgy server12:30
dopeuse vim12:31
malik!firefly12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
malikdoes any one knows how to use firefly extension of ff12:31
InuDueliststdin, there's a problem.12:31
InuDuelistIt won't mount /media/windows12:31
gan|y|medis there a special kernel option that is needed so that uuids can be used during boot-up?12:31
malikit says that it can turn FF into filebrowse too12:31
stdinInuDuelist: what's the error ?12:31
linux_galoremalik: go to the mozilla home page and look the extension up, there should be a link to the home page12:32
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linux_galorefor the *12:32
stdingan|y|med: no, just use "root=UUID=TheUUIDHere"12:32
InuDuelist[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab12:32
InuDuelistmount: mount point /media/windows does not exist12:32
InuDuelistOh.12:32
InuDuelistI just make an extra line at the end of fstab?12:33
dopeso someone wanna help me with my skippy?12:33
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stdinInuDuelist: yeah, and make the directory in /media, easiest way is to open konsole and type "sudo mkdir /media/windows"12:33
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linux_galoredope: yeah mate, do you want the bugger rare or well done12:35
dopei just want it to work12:35
dopei read your text with an english accent in my head12:35
InuDuelistThanks stdin, works.12:35
stdinInuDuelist: no problem :)12:35
linux_galoredope: find the home page for the project, they may have a forum12:35
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vbgunzthunderbird is frigging BROKE!Z12:36
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gan|y|medstdin: hm, just booted in initng with a new kernel, and suddenly it cannot mount my part anymore, complaining about uuids being used and not recognized. could the uuids have changed when using a new kernel?12:36
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vbgunzwhat is the official thunderbird channel? on what server?12:36
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linux_galoredope: http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php   also note skippy is a gnome project and this is a kde centric channel12:37
mau12Im having problems with the update of openoffice. somebody knows something?12:37
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stdingan|y|med: they shouldn't have12:38
faLUCEHi. A really difficoult question. If I launch xset in order to blank the screen while mplayer is running, and another script kills mplayer, xset returns to the desktop. I don't want that this happens (I want that the blank screen remains)... what should I do?12:38
dopeit's on kde-look.org12:38
stdingan|y|med: there is a command to check the uuids12:38
stdin!UUID12:38
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)12:38
stdingan|y|med: blkid12:38
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malikcan any one have a look on this link for the firefly and tell me if i will be able to look up all the folders on the system with that?.......https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3076/12:39
linux_galoredope: kde has a built in task switcher anyway press alt-tab12:40
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vbgunzThunderbird is broke! how can they do this? It's broke on Windows and Kubuntu!? anyone know of the official channel?12:40
dopebut i like the expose thing12:40
dopeand kompose is slow12:40
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gan|y|medstdin: thx12:41
moparisthebestis there a version of kubuntu for the ia64 architecture?12:41
faLUCEHi. A really difficoult question. If I launch xset in order to blank the screen while mplayer is running, and another script kills mplayer, xset returns to the desktop. I don't want that this happens (I want that the blank screen remains)... what should I do?12:41
linux_galoredope: kompose is fast for me,  slow down the refresh rate in kompose12:41
Ch1ppyHello, if I have a printer plugged into a USB port, what file would I use to access this device?12:42
dopelinux_galore: where is that?12:42
linux_galoredope: I have a p3 933 at home and kompose is fine, you just have to slow the refresh down so it doesnt hog resources12:42
dopedelay between screen shots?12:42
linux_galoredope:  right click on the kompose icon in the tray, same as windows12:42
linux_galoredope: yep12:43
dopemake the number higher?12:43
linux_galoredope: yeah, increase the delay time12:43
dopeit's at 99912:44
dopeit's still not instant like bery :-/12:44
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stdinvbgunz: the official thunderbird channel is #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org12:44
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vbgunzthank you!12:44
linux_galoredope: if you run kompose in beryl you going to have a huge lag problem12:44
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linux_galoredope: allot of stuff hasnt been ported yet for beryl12:45
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frank___(Please don't laugh)  I keet running  xhost+ to give another user on my computer access to display on X. How stupid is that from a security perspective?12:45
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dopei run kompose because beryl was a hog12:45
Anon5510t12:45
underdog5004yay, I'm finally back...guess they repaired the FiOp line...12:45
linux_galoredope: I dare say you need more ram or a better system if you want to run fancy resource hogging graphics tools12:45
dopeNNOOOOO12:45
dopewhy won't my 386 work?12:46
linux_galoredope eye candy = lots of system resources12:46
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stdinfrank___: that is quite stupid yes :P you can just use "xhost +LOCAL:" to give only _local_ users access to the display12:46
dopesomeone said it was a nvidia driver bug i had with beryl12:46
dopeotherwise i'd use it12:46
dopei've got a decent system here12:46
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dope2.4Ghz P4 1g ram 6800xt12:46
linux_galoredope beryl is still expermental12:46
dopeyea so i've noticed :P12:47
frank___stdin: oh...  could anyone on the internet run something on my computer this way? or would they still need my password?12:47
linux_galoredope kompose wont really be of any use till you move to kde 412:47
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dopewhere do i get kde 4 at12:47
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linux_galoredope first get a time machine and go forward 6 months12:48
mau12kde 4 is just a beta12:48
dopewhy do they have a 4th version?12:48
dopewhy couldn't they get it right the first time?12:48
linux_galoredope its a new release,  kompose was originally just a hack12:48
dopeanyone here use a dvorak keyboard layout?12:48
slyfoxI need to associate mp3 in firefox with Amarok, to do that I need to point firefox to amarok, where is amarok isntalled ?12:49
stdinfrank___: they would still need to login to the system to do it, but allowing unrestricted access can have some security issues, if you only open it to local users, that risk it reduced significantly12:49
linux_galoredope: just you and that dyslexic monkey in the corner12:49
dopeslyfox: try /usr/bin/amarok12:49
linux_galore:-P12:49
dope:/12:49
dopeit's supposed to be better than qwerty12:49
dopei'm too lazy to relearn how to type12:49
frank___stdin: ok thanks12:49
stdinnp :)12:50
frank___stdin: I'm trying to figure out why my ISP detected an IRC bot from my connection ;(12:50
linux_galoredope: if its so much better how come the worlds fastest typed doesnt use dvorak, maybe because key layout doesnt make that much difference12:50
linux_galoretyper*12:50
slyfoxdope: thank you12:51
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stdinfrank___: a bot, or a proxy?12:51
gan|y|medwhat is dvorak?12:51
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linux_galoregan|y|med: alternate key layout12:51
stdin!dvorak | gan|y|med12:51
ubotugan|y|med: dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard12:51
frank___stdin: either this computer a Windows PC or someone else on my router (which I hadn't encrypted)  They told me it was a irc bot on port 6189912:51
gan|y|medthx12:51
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linux_galoredoesnt make any difference though12:52
surgywhat do i need to extract a .rar archive?12:52
dopewoo i helped someone!12:52
linux_galoresurgy: unrar12:52
slyfoxdope: wow it appeares that Amarok does nto know how to handle m3u files. I open one and it is fine, then I want to lsiten to the enxt one and ANOTHER amarok opens up? !!12:52
dopeeh i dunno, try winamp :P12:52
linux_galoresurgy: install  unrar then the archive manager can open the file12:53
surgylinux_galore: i have unrar but it doesnt show up in kde menu and i tryed "unrar file.rar" and it doesnt work12:53
surgylinux_galore: ark is still saying it cant open it12:53
linux_galoresurgy:   thats because unrar is a command line tool12:53
linux_galoresurgy: you have to tell ark to use unrar12:53
stdinfrank___: tell your isp to "suck it" :P12:53
surgyhow?12:53
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frank___stdin: well, if it's true, I must have a problem somewhere12:54
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surgylinux_galore: how do i tell it to use unrar?12:55
mau12I'm still having problems with the instalation of tar.gz package. Could somebody help me?12:55
moparisthebestis there a kubuntu install for the ia64 architecture?12:56
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linux_galoresurgy: wouldnt have a clue, I usually just type  unrar filename.rar12:57
linux_galoremoparisthebest: have to use Debian12:58
hackman127I'm trying to play an MP3 in KDE on a new install of kubuntu using amaroK, but when I play the MP3, it immediately says "Playlist finished". Any ideas?12:58
gan|y|medthat layout brilliant. so the question is where to get a keyboard (especially because i have a notebook)12:58
gan|y|medis12:58
stdin!mp3 | hackman12712:58
ubotuhackman127: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:58
linux_galoremoparisthebest: its considered by many a dead architecture12:58
stdinhackman127: you need to install mp3 support12:58
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gan|y|meddope: are those keyboards freely available?12:59
Admiral_Chicago_Eyeless: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree12:59
dopedunno12:59
sleepy745in adept, whats the difference between purge and remove?12:59
dopei just read about them once12:59
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mau12hackman have u download the codecs for kde?12:59
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Admiral_Chicago_oops, way behind, didn't realize12:59
stdinsleepy745: purge removes the configuration files too12:59
mau12hackman: have you download the audio codecs for kde?01:00
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ZombieLoveHey everyone, looking to purchase a laptop tonight and I'd like to get one that is supported very well for Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Any recommendations?01:00
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sleepy745does it remove stuff in xodrg.conf?01:01
linux_galoremoparisthebest: if you talking about a new Intel 64 bit cpu just use the 64 bit version of Kubuntu01:01
sleepy745I want to uninstall beryl and keep the settings in xorg.conf to install a newer version01:01
chickenerZombieLove:  perhaps look for nvidia graphics and intel wireless.  i've had best luck with laptops and that combination.01:02
moparisthebestlinux_galore, I thought the 64 bit version was just for amd cpus?01:02
stdinsleepy745: no, just the beryl config files. not xorg.conf01:02
sleepy745ok01:02
linux_galoremoparisthebest: intel basically copied amd's stuff01:03
mau12zombie: hp01:03
moparisthebestso it will work linux_galore ?01:03
ZombieLovechickener: can you recommend a vendor (e.g. lenovo, dell, hp, etc..)?01:03
ZombieLovemau12: i'll check out hp now01:03
stdinamd64 packages are just optimised for AMD. but work fine on intel01:03
dopei don't think my surround sound is working01:03
linux_galoremoparisthebest: yep01:03
mau12ok I'm using one right now01:04
moparisthebestso should I use the amd64 package or the x86 package?01:04
moparisthebestwhich would be better?01:04
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ZombieLovemau12: what model are you using?01:04
linux_galoremoparisthebest: yep, the extensions to x86 that amd added Intel use ie x86-64  and amd64 are very very much the same01:04
HymnToLifeactually, Intel's EM64T is just a reimplementation of AMD's AMD6401:05
moparisthebestok linux_galore thanks for all the help :)01:05
HymnToLifethey even paid a license for it :p01:05
mau12a little old modelmpavilion zt114501:06
linux_galoreHymnToLife: I read the spec two years ago and noticed they x86-64 stuff intel had was the same, didnt know about the license though01:06
linux_galoreHymnToLife: thats all going to change when amd start adding 128/256 gpu's to the cpu's01:07
dopehow do i give programs a higher priority01:07
dopeso when a bunch of things are happening at once my music doesn't get affected01:07
HymnToLifeyep, hopefull ATi will have made decent Linux drivers by then01:08
linux_galore128/256 bit*01:08
HymnToLifehopefully*01:08
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linux_galoreHymnToLife: my owrry is about the quad core stuff because how intel are doing it is different from amd's solution01:09
linux_galoreworry*01:09
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stdindope: in KSysGaurd: right click -> Renice Process, in konsole "man renice"01:09
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dubeausalut01:10
dubeauj'ai un serieux probleme01:10
HymnToLife!fr01:10
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:10
stdin!fr01:10
CSonicGohaha01:10
HymnToLifestdin, pwn3d :p01:10
stdin:D01:10
dubeauquelqu'un peut m'aider01:10
dubeau?01:11
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matt0507hi, what is the console command to mount my other partition named sda2? system shutdown improperly and now cant access my partition.01:11
HymnToLife!fr01:11
stdindubeau: #kubuntu-fr svp :)01:11
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dubeauss01:11
CSonicGoI wish I knew French. :(01:12
stdinmatt0507: what filesystem is it, where do you want to mount it and is it in /etc/fstab ?01:12
mau12matt0507 have you ever used gparted?01:12
matt0507its an ntfs systema nd i want to mount it in /media01:13
stdinmatt0507: where in /media ?01:13
matt0507just at /media/01:13
dubeauBad request: The IMAP server is reporting that plain text logins are disabled. Using CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5 authentication instead may work. Also, the use of TLS may allow SquirrelMail to login. Please contact your system administrator and report this error.01:13
dubeauvoici mon erreur sur squirrelmail01:14
HymnToLife!fr01:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:14
dubeauquelqu'un m'aider01:14
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HymnToLifedubeau, quatre fois qu'on te dit d'aller sur #ubuntu-fr !01:14
dubeauc'est urgent01:14
stdinmatt0507: you shouldn't mount things to /media , if you (for example) want to use a CD, you won't be able to01:14
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CSonicGoHymnToLife: remember that famous line from Pulp fiction... :P01:15
linux_galorematt0507: /media  is for removable media not for static file systems01:15
dubeaumerci01:15
dubeaua tous01:15
HymnToLifeafraid not, I saw it ages ago01:15
matt0507stdin: oh so where should i mount it?01:15
mau12debeau: Habla usted espaol?01:16
CSonicGoah01:16
stdinmatt0507: a good place would be /media/windows01:16
CSonicGothat isn't spanish01:16
linux_galorematt0507:   make a directory in  /mnt/     is  sudo mkdir  /mnt/windows  then mount that01:16
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mau12yes01:16
linux_galoreie*01:16
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CSonicGoHymnToLife: "ENGLISH *****, do you speak it?!" was the line01:17
stdinlinux_galore: /mnt is for temporary (eg network) mounts :P01:17
K-RyanEvening #kubuntu01:17
stdinlinux_galore: filesystem standards must be adhered to :P01:17
HymnToLifeyep, why not mount it directly on /windows ?01:17
linux_galorestdin: news to me01:18
stdinmatt0507: for a temporary solution use "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt -o umask=0000"01:18
stdinlinux_galore: but you are right, /media is for removable media, not partitions :)01:19
K-Ryanstdin how would i mount my external hdd?01:19
K-Ryanit's either not being nice with windows, or its broke...01:19
stdinK-Ryan: depends what filesystem it has01:19
K-Ryanfat3201:19
matt0507linux_galore:  what is the command to mount sda2 to /mnt/windows?01:20
stdinK-Ryan: and what's the device location (eg /dev/sda1) ?01:20
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K-Ryani dont get that part01:20
K-Ryanits hooked in a usb01:20
stdinmatt0507: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows -o umask=0000"01:20
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matt0507stdin: ty01:20
XenThraLHi, I was wondering if its possible to use the fonts that come with kubuntu in a commercial product?01:21
stdinK-Ryan: it should show the device in "/media" or "media:/" in konq01:21
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K-Ryanits not there stdin01:21
stdinK-Ryan: ok, the hard(er) way then :P01:22
XenThraL...anyone know the licensing on them, would it be an issue?01:22
stdinK-Ryan: open konsole01:22
K-RyanXenThraL I believe it's free to use01:22
stdinK-Ryan: type: sudo fdisl -l01:22
XenThraLin any venture?01:22
mau12Xenthral you shoul read the GNU license01:22
stdinXenThraL: the fonts in Kubuntu should be GPL01:22
underdog5004!gnu01:22
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org01:22
XenThraLmau12: I have no idea how it applies to fonts01:22
K-Ryansudo fdisl -l01:22
K-Ryancommand not found01:22
underdog5004K-Ryan, fdisk, not fdisl01:23
stdinK-Ryan: typo :P  sudo fdisk -l01:23
K-Ryan=)01:23
underdog5004lol01:23
K-Ryanoh poo01:23
K-Ryanit doesn't show01:23
K-Ryanit's not connected01:23
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mau12Do Fonts belong to the project?01:24
K-Ryansda1 ?01:24
stdinK-Ryan: check in "/media" or "media:/" in konq now01:24
K-Ryanits there in sda101:24
K-Ryanbut its apparantly empty?01:24
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K-Ryani definitly had a good 80GB on it though...01:25
K-Ryan   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:25
K-Ryan/dev/sda1               1       30401   244196001    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)01:25
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matt0507K-Ryan:that happens to my ntfs partition , until i asked and i mounted it it elsewhere, now i can see the files01:26
K-Ryanalright then, how can i mount it elsewhere?01:26
stdinK-Ryan: pmount /dev/sda1 MyDisk01:26
stdin(no sudo)01:26
stdinit'll be in /media/MyDisk then01:27
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K-Ryanmount:wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so01:27
hackman127stdin, That got MP3 working. Thanks01:27
stdinK-Ryan: don't look good, try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt"01:28
stdinhackman127: no problem :)01:28
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K-Ryansame error01:28
ubuntu_I made a mistake and mkswap'd the wrong partition. Now everytime I try to mount that partition I get "/dev/hda2 looks like swapspace - not mounted." Can I fix this?01:28
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stdinK-Ryan: hmm, looks very bad01:29
K-Ryanstdin: bb in 20, dinner01:29
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stdinK-Ryan: seems the filesystem is corrupt01:29
stdinubuntu_: reformat it as something else01:29
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ubuntu_There's a file on that partition I'd like to have...01:30
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stdinubuntu_: seeing as you formatted the partition (as swap), it may be gone01:30
ubuntu_Well crap, there goes all my bookmarks.01:30
underdog5004anyone seen genii lately?01:31
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stdinunderdog5004: he was on last night, but not today afaik01:32
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underdog5004ok...I recently changed my username...haven't spoken to him for a while...01:32
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underdog5004so...anyone have experience w/ teg?01:35
underdog5004!teg01:35
ubotuCome play teg with us!  (Like the board game Risk.)  Game will start when we get some players rounded up - get yourself set up and join quickly if you'd like to participate.  Install the "teg" package, run 'tegclient', and connect to server yarusso.no-ip.org, port 2000.  Ping tonyyarusso for more info.01:35
stdinnope01:36
ZombieLoveHey Everyone,01:36
ZombieLovewhat do you all think about http://www.linuxcertified.com/index.html? Are they a good company to buy laptops from?01:36
underdog5004bummer01:36
underdog5004ZombieLove, I've had _no_ experience w/ them...sorry...01:38
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CaBlGuYthere a way to remove Totem without messin up my current install?01:39
chickeneri've always been the guy that bought first then tinkered endlessly to get it to mostly work01:39
chickenerremoving totem shouldn't break anything01:39
CaBlGuYbut, it's saying if I remove it, Ubuntu desktop goes with it.01:39
CaBlGuY:/01:39
stdinCaBlGuY: "kubuntu-desktop" and "ubuntu-desktop" are meta packages, and is safe to remove01:40
underdog5004cableguy...sudo apt-get remove --purge totem ?01:40
ZombieLoveunderdog: can you recommend a good distributor or a solid laptop with good linux support? I'm surfing around endlessly on all the major vendors and can't find something I feel comfortable with.01:41
chickeneryes that happens on occasion.  why are you wanting to remove totem?  maybe just delete the icon from the menu and pretend you deleted it.01:41
CaBlGuYstdin:  ok, so that won't mess up my desktop GUI then right?01:41
CaBlGuYchickener:  don't use it, don't need it, and I got "updates" on my taskbar..01:42
stdinCaBlGuY: no, they aren't "real" packages, they just depend on all the default applications01:42
CaBlGuYstdin:  okey.. thanks..  ;)01:42
stdin:)01:42
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chickeneryes i like mplayer and vlc better in gnome01:42
MinatakuZombieLove: Toshiba01:42
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ZombieLoveminataku: thanks, I'll check that out01:42
MinatakuNot only are they the best laptops, they've got great Linux support01:43
MinatakuI should know, I'm using one right now01:43
Minataku 19:41:33 up 27 days,  6:33,  6 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.61, 0.6201:43
Minataku:D01:43
underdog5004ZombieLove, I personally would recommend the Dell Inspiron B130 <==Not sure about model01:43
ZombieLoveHeh, cute... I've never had or played with a Toshiba.01:43
ZombieLoveI'll check out dell too01:43
MinatakuI wouldn't recommend Dell ANYTHING unless I hated the person01:44
underdog5004I installed kubuntu on my gf's lappy...everything worked except wireless, but ndiswrapper got it working01:44
ZombieLoveHA!01:44
underdog5004ZombieLove, I don't hate you.01:44
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ZombieLoveIsn't dell becoming a bigger player as of late?01:44
ZombieLoveunderdog: thanks, I don't hate you either01:44
MinatakuZombieLove: That's because people enjoy buying crap01:44
ZombieLove... I don't enjoy crap01:44
MinatakuCase in point: Dell01:44
ZombieLoveinfact, I'd go so far as do say I hate crap01:45
underdog5004yeah, dell desktops just suck...I work in a computer repair shop, and probably 50% of boxes in here are Dells01:45
chickenerwell i've heard of 10+ dell hard drives going in newish machines.  They replace but still..01:45
MinatakuZombieLove: I've got 4 Toshibas from 1987 to 200301:45
ZombieLoveHow about lenovo? Anyone have one and running linux?01:45
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ZombieLoveI'm going to check out toshiba heavily...01:46
ZombieLoveI've just never used them so I'm scared :(01:46
Minatakulol01:46
MinatakuYou'll never want to use another brand01:46
stdinMinataku: how responsive is that 19 year old one ?01:46
Minatakustdin: Quite01:46
MinatakuEven the HDD still works perfectly01:46
stdinMinataku: nice, it's 1 year younger than me :)01:47
Minatakulol01:47
MinatakuToshiba T120001:47
underdog5004lol, old stuff is much more reliable than new stuff...found an old 20 MB hdd in the barn...powered up and I was in dos...oh boy!01:47
MinatakuIntel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz01:47
MinatakuOne of if not the first laptop with an HDD01:48
underdog5004Minataku, how big is the hdd?01:48
Minataku20MB01:49
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K-Ryanstdin I think it's broken01:49
K-RyanI tried a different port, replugging the cables.01:49
stdinK-Ryan: it may just be the filesystem01:49
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K-Ryanfat32?01:50
K-Ryani thought it was compatible with linux01:50
stdinK-Ryan: I mean the filesystem may be corrupt, you could try and reformat it (and loose all your data)01:50
K-Ryani cant format it01:50
Minataku*lose01:51
K-Ryanthe filesystem was locked01:51
stdinMinataku: heh, yeah :)01:51
underdog5004K-Ryan, or you can boot w/ the windows XP install disc, hit R, then type in chkdsk /P to check the disk and fs for errors01:51
Minatakustdin: Sorry, I just cringe when I see errors like that XD01:51
K-Ryanloose is common, overly common01:52
K-Ryanbut i mean, they don't even sound the same01:52
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K-RyanHey, uhh, the sda1 folder is still there, even though it's not connected.01:52
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ZombieLoveIs there any good reason to have blue tooth on my laptop?01:53
ZombieLoveI don't think I'd use it01:53
K-RyanZombieLove contact with other bluetooth devices01:53
K-RyanThat's it01:53
underdog5004ZombieLove, for syncing w/ your cell phone, for example01:53
MinatakuWhich is not that desireable01:53
MinatakuI'd say leave it01:53
ZombieLove... hrmm... it's a $35.00 option and I'm torn!! I hate purchasing tihngs!!01:53
stdinK-Ryan: what did you mean the filesystem is locked ?01:53
K-Ryanwell when i wanted to make part of it ext3 for kubuntu from the live cd01:54
K-Ryani couldnt01:54
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stdinZombieLove: if you don't have any bluetooth devices, then don't get it :P01:54
K-Ryanit showed a lock and i couldnt modify it01:54
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ZombieLovestdin: but what if I get some?! I'd never forgive myself :S01:54
K-RyanZombieLove you can buy a USB Blue tooth thing01:54
K-RyanI think they make 'em01:54
ZombieLovegood piont01:54
stdinK-Ryan: it should work, unless it's mounted, which it isn't now. Just install gparted and reformat it01:55
K-Ryangparted, package?01:55
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HymnToLife!info gparted01:55
ubotugparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB01:55
stdinK-Ryan: yeah, sudo apt-get install gaprted01:55
K-Ryan!kparted01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
stdindamn, typos again01:55
K-Ryanoh well, gnome still works01:55
stdinK-Ryan: gparted is less buggy then qtparted01:56
K-Ryanso much for backing up my entire HDD to install kubuntu =(01:56
underdog5004I love KDE, personally, but Xfce 4.4.0 was recently released!01:56
underdog5004That looks pretty good, too01:56
K-RyanIs there anything that could go wrong formatting an external hard drive?01:56
stdinI like enlightenment, I use it when I'm not in KDE01:56
K-RyanIf it's a connection issue would the program tell me?01:56
underdog5004K-Ryan, uh, no, unless you somehow want to save data from it01:57
K-Ryanunderdog5004 if i cant read any data by any means01:57
K-Ryanthere is no data01:57
underdog5004stdin, I tried it, but I couldn't really get into it...01:57
underdog5004alright, I"m gettin' outta here...see y'all later01:57
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K-Ryanyeah i think its corrupt01:58
K-RyanI can't f'ing believe it01:58
K-RyanHey should I make 2 partitions, 1 ext3 and 1 ntfs?01:59
stdinright, I have to go, gotta be up early tomorrow01:59
K-Ryanor maybe one fat32?01:59
K-Ryanits 233GB mind you01:59
LordOllieis kubuntu man page deficient or is it just me?01:59
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LordOllie!man02:01
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:01
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crystalwhat repository would have firestarter  or kmyfirewall ?02:04
LjL!firestarter02:04
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:04
LjL!kmyfirewall02:04
ubotukmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1211 kB, installed size 4056 kB02:04
LjL!guarddog02:04
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB02:04
LjL!info firestarter02:04
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB02:04
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crystalthanks02:05
K-Ryani'd say spam, but...02:05
LjLsorry02:05
ZombieLoveHow about System 76 (http://www.system76.com)... Anyone have any experience with those guys? Are they a solid choice to buy a laptop from?02:05
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LjLi'd say offtopic02:06
K-RyanLjL I was only kidding =P02:06
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HymnToLife!offtopic | ZombieLove02:06
ubotuZombieLove: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:06
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ZuphHi everyone.  I just installed kubuntu, and I was wondering if there was a way to get gaim (or any IM program) to dock to the side like trillian, aim, et al. in windows.  IE, the window stays on top and doesn't allow other windows to maximise under it.02:08
LjLK-Ryan: it's ok, i could have used private messages anyway02:08
K-RyanReally, I was just busting your chops.02:08
ZombieLoveSorry about the off topic. Thanks for your help. I'll use the proper channel.02:08
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K-RyanNot looking good for my external...02:10
ted_uhm02:11
ted_how to change the charset in Konversation to latin-1?02:11
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LjLwell my not being in a very good mood meant i got a bit on the upset side and wasn't nice to ZombieLove - the offtopic argument still stands, but i shouldn't have put it that way, sorry02:12
LjLted_: hm, i'm afraid you'd have to change it a bit more globally02:12
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ZombieLoveLjL: No offense taken. Glad you pointed out I was in the wrong place.02:13
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ted_LjL02:14
ted_uhm how do I do that?02:14
HymnToLifedo what ?02:14
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LjLted_, actually, i don't know. if you type "locale", you will get a list of variables you can change, however i don't know what's the right place to set those variables to make them stick, and i also doubt changing them is a good idea02:16
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HymnToLifelong story short : switch to xchat :)02:16
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ted_HymnToLife thx :D used that before, but couldnt remember the name02:18
HymnToLifeand be happy because Ubuntu has the correct libs and will let you compile xchat 2.802:18
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HymnToLifeunlike Debian, first sime I ever see a thing Ubuntu has and Debian hasn't02:19
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adamwesthey02:19
Alarmi just did the latest update that was availably today for the adept_manager,  and now my fonts in the adept_manager (only) are really small , how can i change that ?02:19
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K-Ryan!adeptfix02:20
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:20
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K-Ryanpath to sources.list anyone?02:21
HymnToLife/etc/apt/source.list02:21
HymnToLifesources*02:21
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K-Ryanthx02:21
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K-Ryanhey guys how would i add "http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libsdl1.2debian-all" to my repo list?02:29
K-Ryani know the whole adept thing but what about distro and components02:29
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HymnToLifethis is a single package, not a repo02:30
HymnToLifeand you don't want to run Debian packages in Ubuntu anyway02:30
HymnToLife(all the more as Ubuntu has the very same in it's repos)02:30
K-RyanWell I need some packages to play a certain game02:30
K-Ryansdl, sdl-image, sdl-mixer, sdl-devel, sdl-image-devel, sdl-mixer-devel02:30
K-RyanHow can I get them? Doesn't work with sudo apt-get02:31
HymnToLifeall those exist in Ubuntu, too02:31
HymnToLifeit definitely works with apt-get02:31
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HymnToLife!info libsdl1.2debian-all02:31
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ubotulibsdl1.2debian-all: Simple DirectMedia Layer (with all available options). In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 504 kB02:31
K-Ryanyeah now it works >.>02:32
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K-RyanHymnToLife what are the names of all those packages02:33
K-Ryanbecause those dont work02:33
TonrenI'm trying to download a torrent with KTorrent.  It's going at average 12.1 KB/s, but I'm on a consumer cable modem and I know it can go tens of times faster.  I'm looking at my list of peers; ther eare several with 100% availability but I'm not downloading OR uploading to them.  They're not choked, they're not snubbed, and my ports are all forwarded.  Why aren't I downloading?02:33
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K-RyanProram limit?02:34
HymnToLifeK-Ryan, can't you just search for them in Adept ?02:34
K-Ryan*Program"02:34
TonrenK-Ryan: Was that directed to me?02:34
K-RyanYes Tonren02:34
K-RyanAs in are the settings correct for KTorrent02:34
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K-RyanHymnToLife I'll try...02:34
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TonrenK-Ryan: Yes.  I have 0 upload & download limit.02:35
HymnToLifeTonren, you are downloading02:35
HymnToLifemaybe your sources have a poor connection02:35
TonrenHymnToLife: Yes, but only on an average of 10KB/s.02:35
TonrenHymnToLife: Would that cause ZERO download speed, though?02:35
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hugohow can I rerun the routine which does autoconfigure my VGA card on install? Not the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg stuff.02:36
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HymnToLifeTonren, 10 kb/s is more than zero, so it works02:36
HymnToLifeI don't think there's anything you can do about the speeed02:36
TonrenHymnToLife: No no, I mean my average total speed is 10 KB/s.  Certain peers give me zero.02:37
HymnToLifethen I think there's something wrong on their side, not yours02:37
user-landWhat do you use when you want to make an archive from a folder in Konqueror ?02:37
HymnToLifegiven that yours seems to work02:37
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TonrenAlso, I don't have the documentation.  How do I get Ktorrent's docs?02:38
chickenerTonren:  have you opened the necessary ports for ktorrent?02:39
K-RyanHe said he forwarded all his ports02:40
K-RyanDon't know if forwarded and opened are the same thing though02:40
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chickeneryes i had troubles at first02:40
Tonrenchickener: Yes, they're all forwarded02:40
Tonrenchickener: What do you mean by "opened"?02:40
frojndhow can I kill firefox02:40
chickeneri had it forwarded on the modem/router02:40
chickenerbut needed to use iptables to open the port in ubuntu02:40
K-Ryanfrojnd: kill?02:40
frojndkillall firefox wouldnt work02:40
Tonrenchickener: Weird.  How do you do that?  Is there a gui way?  How do I know if they're open?02:41
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foxbunnyI keep failing to set up XGL as per wiki directions... is there something not right in the wiki page?02:41
user-landThere is an Ark plugin for Konqueror, but where can i find the correct version for Edgy ?02:42
frojndsomeone how can I kill firefoxes all procesess02:43
foxbunnyfrojnd: doesn't killall help?02:43
frojndno02:44
foxbunnyhmm02:44
frojndno process killed02:44
malikmay sudo killall02:44
sleepy745how do I make kiba-dock startup on install?02:44
foxbunnyhow many are there listed?02:44
malikor u can kill it with runaway process catcher?02:44
Tonrensleepy745: you mean start on startup?02:44
sleepy745yes02:45
frojndmalik: nothing02:45
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foxbunnyfrojnd: I think killall can issue specific signals to process IDs rather than names... try that02:45
Tonrenchickener: Can you help me out, man?02:45
foxbunnyfrojnd: SIGTERM to all PIDs that are relevant...02:45
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foxbunnyfrojnd: or SIGKILL... I forget02:46
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chickenerhttp://azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem#Port_Forwarding_on_Linux.2C_specifically_Ubuntu02:47
Murrlin"yipes!" my sound disappeared. help?02:47
frojndfoxbunny: sigkill firefox?02:47
chickenerthis fixed my issue02:47
Murrlingetting a "couldnt open audio" popup02:47
chickeneralong with portforward.com02:48
foxbunnyfrojnd: nope... wait a sec02:48
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foxbunnyfrojnd: try this: ps ax | grep firefox02:48
foxbunnyfrojnd: write down PID numbers for all firefox-related stuff02:49
malikuse KTorrents its much better n faster than azureus02:49
frojnd 6382 ?        Sl   111:27 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin02:49
frojnd 9527 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep firefox02:49
frojndthats it02:49
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foxbunnyfrojnd: issue kill -s TERM 638202:50
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frojndfoxbunny: thx :)02:51
foxbunnyfrojnd: worked?02:51
frojndzep02:51
frojndyep02:51
foxbunnyfrojnd: you could have also used killall02:52
foxbunnybut you needed to match the longish /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin02:52
foxbunnynot firefox02:52
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foxbunnykill is just that bit more intuitive02:52
foxbunnyhehe02:52
foxbunnykill -s TERM Windows... for example02:53
TonrenWhat are ktorrent's "upload slots"?02:53
TonrenAlso, again, how do I get Ktorrents' docs?  When I go to KTorrent Handbook it says "There are no documents for ktorrent"02:53
malikis there any way of turning FF from repos into a file browser as well?02:53
endo602how do i make knoqueror open up full screen?02:55
Theoryas in start maximised?02:56
endo602yes02:56
Theoryalways, or only for file browsing/web browsing?02:56
endo602web browsing02:56
malikis there any way of turning FF from repos into a file browser as well?02:57
Theoryendo602: load it up, click maximize, click settings->save view profile02:57
Theorytick "Save window size in profile"02:57
Theorythen click save02:57
endo602nice02:58
endo602thanks02:58
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malikis there any way that i can use FF as file browser too?02:59
adamwestlol02:59
adamwestthat's for FF itself to build... i think so. it's not like konquerer or IE03:00
foxbunnyare there any general Linux IRC channels?03:00
maliki take that as no03:00
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InuDuelistHey, are the rest of you guys having Kubuntu use up almost 600MB of RAM?03:00
HymnToLifeInuDuelist, that's normal03:01
foxbunnyInuDuelist: I don't have that much RAM. :)03:01
malikyes it has used nearly all of my 1 GB ddr ram03:01
HymnToLifein *NIX, unused RAM is wasted RAM03:01
HymnToLifeso it uses as much RAM as it can03:01
InuDuelistHymnToLife: Well, it's a problem when I can't open any more programs.03:01
foxbunnyInuDuelist: some of it is cached data... not actually used by apps03:02
HymnToLifeInuDuelist, are you sure you can't ?03:02
InuDuelistYep.03:02
foxbunnyInuDuelist: I had a prob with RAM shortage (another distro) when digiKam ate up all my RAM, then filled up the swap... I couldn't move my mouse, let alone start new apps...03:03
foxbunnyInuDuelist: my current physical memmory usage is about 200 MB03:03
malikfedora 5 and 6 are very good with RAMbut i dont think they have this good community support IRC channel03:04
foxbunnymalik: most of them don't ;)03:04
juano__would anyone know why in windows my pc will vanish from my network places and from ubuntu it works fine, they wont vanish?03:04
malikfoxbunny: most of whome?........other distros?03:05
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malikwhom*03:05
foxbunnymalik: exactly03:05
malikaaaaaaaaah03:05
foxbunnymalik: tech support generally depends on two things03:05
foxbunnymalik: geekness of the community and03:05
foxbunnymalik: the question03:06
malikwell atm i love kubuntu better than other distros, fedora was my first love so it still brings back good memory coz it was very stable once setup03:06
sleepy745how do you make the kiba-dock panel transparent?03:07
foxbunnyfrojnd: I just remembered something03:07
malikalthough i tried Gnome on it .....now i thinkl cud have tried kde too03:07
frojndanything useful?03:07
foxbunnyfrojnd: you could have also used KDE System Guard... much easier for novices03:07
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foxbunnyfrojnd: it's the KSysGuard item in the System menu03:08
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frojndk03:08
Toxhow to make back the filter windows on adept manager03:08
foxbunnyfrojnd: it has  process table tab that lists all the processes and has a search facility... you can, of course, kill them at your own lesure03:08
Jucatothe process table can be brought up with Ctrl+Esc03:09
foxbunnyJucato: yeah, I was about to mention that... I changed the bindings to CTRL+Alt+Del03:10
Jucato:)03:10
foxbunnyJucato: I got used to hitting that back in Windows days :p03:10
Jucatohah! after a year of using Kubuntu, I begin to press Ctrl+Esc on XP...03:11
foxbunnyJucato: hehe,,, and I occasionally press Shift+F1 at work. :)03:12
foxbunnyno menu, tho03:12
Jucatothat's Alt+F1 by default03:12
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Jucato:)03:12
foxbunnyJucato: ah, yeah... I forgot...03:12
foxbunnyJucato: pressing the keys seems so automatic at times. :p03:12
Jucatoheh :)03:13
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rich443!pastebin03:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:15
malikfoxbunny: any idea how to turn FF into a file browser like konqi?03:15
Jucatomalik: file browser, yes. file manager, no.03:15
foxbunnymalik: FireFox?03:15
Jucatothat feature just isn't possible in Firefox, which is a web browser only03:16
malikyes03:16
foxbunnymalik: why not just use Konqueror?03:16
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malikkonqi doesnt play videos from msn.com at all03:16
Jucatothen use firefox for web browsing, but use a file manager for file management...03:16
malikso i have to open two windows all the time03:16
JucatoFirefox itself (without any extension) can't do anything that doesn't involve web browsing03:17
rich443http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2592/03:17
foxbunnymalik: if I may recommend using Krusader for file management...03:17
rich443I get this error when starting kiba-dock03:18
malik:( thats what i am doin at the moment but apparently there is an ext called firefly which turns it into a file manager but its not workin on my mechine03:18
rich443and when I close the konsole window kiba goes away03:18
foxbunnymalik: I'm checking mozilla.org for such extensions... stand by03:18
InuDuelistOK, I'm back. What's the situation on letting me open programs again?03:18
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Jucatorich443: don't start it from Konsole03:18
Jucatorich443: or if you start it from Konsole, add a & at the end03:18
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nzkHey, I need to burn 5.8gb onto CDs03:19
rich443I should type it in run then?03:19
Jucatorich443: those errors are harmless btw03:19
nzkIs there a program that can burn them to one cd, then ask for another cd, and so on?03:19
rich443do I type kiba-dock in Run?03:19
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Jucatorich443: yes. or type "kiba-dock &" in Konsole03:20
foxbunnyInuDuelist: so what is using so much RAM anyway?03:20
InuDuelistDunno.03:20
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Jucatorich443: what basically happens is that when you normally run an app in Konsole, it will be tied to that particular session. so when you close that session/Konsole, it closes the app03:21
foxbunnyInuDuelist: come to think of it, I still haven't learned how to check that... :p03:21
rich443how do I make the kiba panel transparent?03:21
Jucatothat I don't know...03:21
JucatoKSysGuard/ProcessTable isn't really a good way to see what is using much RAM... top is still more accurate, they say03:22
rich443thanks jucato :)03:22
InuDuelistWhat's "Xorg"?03:23
Jucato!xorg03:24
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:24
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foxbunny!mem03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
Jucato:P03:24
Jucato!ram03:24
InuDuelistOh.03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
Jucatobah03:24
Jucato!memory03:24
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management03:24
Jucatothere03:25
foxbunnyJucato: try issuing apropos memmory03:25
foxbunnyJucato: nice find03:25
Jucatofoxbunny: apropos doesn't work with the bot :P03:25
LjL!ram is <alias> memory03:25
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL03:25
foxbunnyJucato: works in the Konsole, tho03:25
Jucatonice LjL :)03:26
foxbunnyalthough one may argue that ram in lower-case is a domestic animal... :)03:26
Jucatoheh03:27
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juano__would anyone know why in windows my pc will vanish from my network places and from ubuntu it works fine, they wont vanish?03:28
malikmay be windows cant see linux pc03:29
foxbunnyInuDuelist: try top03:29
raef55why does google earth react so slowly to mouse in ubuntu03:29
foxbunny!top @ InuDuelist03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about top @ InuDuelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:29
foxbunny!top03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:29
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foxbunnyInuDuelist: anyway, Konsole > top03:30
slyfoxDoes anyone know hoe to modify Firefox GUI font size? The default size is small. I want the menu and everything in firefox to be bigger. Please help.03:30
Jucatoslyfox: Try chaging the font size in System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles and Fonts03:32
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juano__would anyone know why in windows my pc will vanish from my network places and from ubuntu it works fine, they wont vanish?03:33
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ubunticoThat's because you with common software you can read windows partitions from linux but no viceversa03:34
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slyfoxJucato: waht is GTK anyway ?>03:35
InuDuelistOK, so the RAM is still there for further use, but why can't I open programs (i.e. Amarok and FrostWire)?03:35
Jucatoslyfox: it is the toolkit used by GNOME and Firefox03:35
malik!seamonkey03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
Jucatotoolkit = draws the appearance of widgets like buttons, scrollbars, menus, dialog boxes, etc03:36
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slyfoxJucato: It worked. Thank you !03:36
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MinatakuInuDuelist: Try to open something from a terminal if possible03:38
MinatakuUsually if you were actually out of memory things would start falling apart when the OOM kicked in03:39
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foxbunnyInuDuelist: VmRss header in the process table seems to be show how much memory is being consumed... I'm talking to a guy at #kde...03:45
Jucatofoxbunny: funny... a KDE dev and the maintainer of ksysguard seem to say differently03:45
JohnFluxneiw03:46
foxbunnyJucato: for real?03:46
JohnFluxmeow rather03:46
JohnFluxstupid hairball03:46
Jucatolol03:46
Minatakulol03:46
Jucatofoxbunny: meet JohnFlux, the great maintainer of KSysGuard03:46
foxbunnyJucato: anyway, I think top is displaying real-tim memory usage stats03:46
Minataku"Nyao" or "Nyo" for a Japanese cat03:46
JohnFluxfoxbunny: yeah, i'm the maintainer03:46
JucatoI'm sure he knows what VmRss means :)03:46
JohnFluxit means nothing :P03:47
foxbunnyJohnFlux: it's an honour!03:47
MinatakuHas anyone tried just telling him to type "free" in a terminal?03:47
foxbunny:D03:47
JucatoMinataku: he wants to know per application usage :)03:47
MinatakuAh03:47
foxbunnyJohnFlux: I actually came to think exactly that03:47
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foxbunnyJohnFlux: what does "VmRss The total amount of physical memory used by the process (in kBytes)" mean?03:48
JohnFluxVmRss  is the amount of physical memory it uses. it includes itself and shared libraries03:48
foxbunnyactually03:48
NotWiredis there any way to force all of kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies to reinstall?03:48
foxbunnybut is it real-time?03:48
JohnFluxwell it updates every second or so03:49
foxbunnyah.... well... I had this situation a while ago...03:49
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foxbunnywhen some KIO digikam thumbnail thingy started to go wild03:50
Jucatothe problem is that it includes shared libraries too...03:50
foxbunnyand VmRss for it was not too high03:50
Jucatobut usually it gives you a good idea of what's hogging the system :)03:50
foxbunnybut the memory got filled up03:50
JohnFluxfoxbunny: I'll give you a quick example03:50
foxbunnyand swap too03:50
foxbunnyJohnFlux: ok03:50
Jucatoso for example if you have a process with 1,200,000+ VmRss...03:50
JohnFluxIn kde3, ksysguard says katapult (neat kde app) uses 100MB shared03:50
JohnFluxi mean virtual size sorry03:51
JohnFluxso katapult is 100MB virtual size03:51
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JohnFlux23MB VmRSS03:51
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JohnFluxhowever in kde4 where i calculate more accurately now03:51
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InuDuelistFirecrotch, that's a perfect name.03:51
JohnFluxit gives the memory usuage (for the same process) as 5.6MB03:51
firecrotchHeh, thanks :)03:52
foxbunnyJohnFlux: what is 'virtual' in 'virtual size'03:52
JohnFluxand 16.8MB is shared memory03:52
Minatakulol03:52
MinatakuNo offense to JohnFlux but... top didn't work here?03:52
JohnFluxfoxbunny: the app sees it as memory, but it can be anything from memory, to a file on disk, to video card03:52
MinatakuI saw it suggested03:52
JohnFluxMinataku: top is wrong03:52
Minatakulol03:52
JohnFluxno seriously, it's just outright wrong03:52
foxbunnyJohnFlux: wrong as in technically wrong? or as in not practical?03:53
Jucatohttp://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/analysis.html03:53
JohnFluxthe kernel documentation isn't all that clear how to interpret the fields03:53
JohnFluxJucato: thanks03:53
JohnFluxfoxbunny: seli explains it better than I can03:53
JucatoJohnFlux: I'm presuming you and Lunak agree on the same thing :)03:54
MinatakuHm, no offense (again) but I have a hard time believing that03:54
foxbunnyJohnFlux: k, I'll take a look03:54
JohnFluxMinataku: read seli's post03:54
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JohnFluxanyway, the point is that the only meaningful information is   a) the physical memory an app uses by itself03:54
MinatakuOf course I'd imagine KDE devs would know a lot about memory since they use so much of it03:54
Minataku*zing*03:55
JohnFluxb) the physical memory shared among all kde apps03:55
JucatoMinataku: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html03:55
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JohnFluxMinataku: actually that's one of the big problems03:55
JohnFluxheh, Jucato beats me again03:55
JohnFluxMinataku: because top etc report misleading info, kde looks on the surface to use a lot of memory03:55
JucatoJohnFlux: lol! I had it opened ever since foxbunny started asking about memory questions :)03:55
MinatakuYeah, if that says KDE uses less RAM than anything else, then I _really_ don't believe you03:55
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JohnFluxtop will tell you katapult is using 23MB of memory, yet in reality it uses only 5MB03:56
MinatakuWhich actually DOES use an inconsequential amount of RAM03:56
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JohnFluxMinataku: now load up an email client and web browser03:56
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JohnFluxMinataku: and compare to kde with konqueror and kmail03:56
foxbunnyJohnFlux: actually, top says KSysGuard is using most memory... :)03:56
MinatakuKonq is preloaded, preloading is a Windows tactic >:|03:57
InuDuelistPop quiz: Apt-Get entry for java. GOGOG03:57
MinatakuOf course it looks like Konq uses almost nothing, it's already running when you start KDE03:57
JohnFluxfoxbunny: yep03:57
JohnFluxfoxbunny: It says 20MB for ksysguard03:57
JohnFluxfoxbunny: and yet in reality it's only 5.4MB03:57
JucatoInuDuelist: sun-java5-bin03:58
InuDuelistThanks, Juc'.03:58
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JohnFluxfoxbunny: ksysguard in kde4 reports this more accurately03:58
Jucato!java > InuDuelist03:58
MinatakuPipe, not Greater Than03:58
foxbunnyJohnFlux: I'm looking forward to KDE4... :D03:58
Minataku!java | InuDuelist03:58
ubotuInuDuelist: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:58
JohnFluxfoxbunny:  ;-)03:58
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foxbunnyJohnFlux: so, is there any accurate way of finding out how much memory is used by what?03:59
JohnFluxgenerally.. run 'free', then run the app, then run 'free' again03:59
foxbunnyJohnFlux: I mean for mortals, that is03:59
JohnFluxand see what the difference is03:59
Jucatolol03:59
Jucatocrude, but probably more effective/accurate03:59
foxbunnyaw... but what if the apps is already running...?04:00
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foxbunnyand I need to monitor it?04:00
JohnFluxfoxbunny: close it :P04:00
Jucatofoxbunny: then close the app :)04:00
phobiacWhy is it that the .iso for kubuntu is 4.9 Gigabytes while the Ubuntu iso is only around 700 Megabytes?04:00
MinatakuRun free, kill it run free again04:00
Minatakulol04:00
Jucatofree -> close app -> free -> compute04:00
JohnFlux;-)04:00
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JohnFluxfoxbunny: search for   'meminfo'04:00
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MinatakuThough that's also not as straightforward as it seems04:00
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foxbunny!meminfo04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meminfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
MinatakuSince you need to consider both physical and swap04:01
JohnFluxI think gnome task manager also gives pretty good numbers04:01
Jucatofoxbunny: not from the bot :P04:01
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MinatakuI assume you mean /proc/meminfo04:01
MinatakuWhich will only confuse the poor guy even more04:01
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foxbunnyJucato: I had to try.... I had to :(04:01
Jucatoif he's interested, he'll learn :)04:01
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intelikey Mem usage: 16.1/249.2 MB (6%)04:02
MinatakuKeep in mind, I suggest KDE to newcomers to Linux, but myself I prefer a much smaller, no-frills-whatsoever WM04:02
intelikeyand xorg is running.04:02
foxbunnyJucato: I'm interested... aw you guys... I really like this kind of conversations... but I have to sleep now.. It's 4am and I've got to go to work at 10... :(04:02
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Jucatosleep is overrated...04:02
Jucato:P04:02
MinatakuI want a WM that manages windows and stays out of the way04:02
JohnFlux:-)04:02
MinatakuBut then that's what Linux is about, freedom04:03
MinatakuIncluding freedom to choose04:03
foxbunnyJucato: I thought like that until I fainted one day...04:03
JohnFluxMinataku: you can run whatever WM you want with kde you know04:03
Jucatohumans... so weak04:03
foxbunnyJucato: my wife was scared to death04:03
Jucatolol04:03
MinatakuJust... don't make KDE4 into a Vista clone... I don't want to look at a Linux box running KDE4 and puke04:03
foxbunnylol04:03
Jucatoas long as the WM is fd.o compliant :)04:03
foxbunnyMinataku: why not?04:03
MinatakuJohnFlux: The whole point is I'd rather not have any KDE overhead04:03
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foxbunnyMinataku: use WMI then. :)04:04
JucatoKDE never was, never will be, a clone of anything :)04:04
rich543how do you open a .skz file from superkaramba04:04
rich543when I download .skz it says it might be corrupted if saved04:04
Minatakulol, you can't look at Windows then at KDE and tell me there's not an obvious similarity04:04
foxbunnythanks guys... I'm gone!04:04
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MinatakuBesides the fact that KDE is 1000x better, of course04:05
JucatoThank you JohnFlux for dropping by and gracing us with your presence, knowledge, and cat-humor :)04:05
Minatakulol04:05
MinatakuHe's not leaving yet, I'm not done with this catfight04:05
MinatakuXD04:05
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MinatakuThat's my sthitck, I just haven't started it here yet04:06
Minatakulol04:06
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rich543how do I deal with .skz files? I can't install liquid weather in superkaramba04:06
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NotWiredis there any way to force all of kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies to reinstall?04:06
MinatakuDon't get me wrong, KDE is great, it's just not my cup of tea is all04:07
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MinatakuNow GNOME, you don't want to know what I think of GNOME04:07
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MinatakuNot that I could say it in here without getting reprimanded anyway04:07
Minataku;304:07
intelikeyNotWired all ?04:07
NotWiredyes intelikey, i messed something up but don't know how bad it is04:07
NotWiredit'd prefer the all route04:07
humboltohow do I start the VGA autodetect routine by hand which is executed on the installer cd usually. I did the installation on a system which had a different VGA card.04:08
intelikeyapt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3`04:08
JohnFluxMinataku: Jucato gnight ;-)04:08
NotWiredthanks intelikey!04:08
JucatoJohnFlux: good night! :)04:08
MinatakuNight, JohnFlux04:08
MinatakuHope I didn't upset you at all04:09
MinatakuAnd sorry if I did X304:09
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linux_galorehumbolto: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:09
linux_galorehumbolto:  sorry   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
intelikeyand asnwer all the questions correctly ^04:10
MinatakuSay... is there a Kubuntu for SPARC? :304:11
humboltolinux_galore: but this is not autodetect. it does ask ME for the vga board installed!04:11
humboltoI want to rerun the autodetection04:11
Minatakuhumbolto: Slow down04:11
MinatakuInstall whatever gives you lspci04:11
MinatakuThen run that04:11
Minatakulol04:11
Minataku!pcitools04:11
linux_galorehumbolto: that does autodetect just hit enter04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcitools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
Minataku!lspci04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
Minataku:\04:12
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intelikey!lshw04:12
ubotulshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB04:12
MinatakuThere ya go04:12
humboltoI know what card is installed but not which driver to use for it, since there isn't an exact driver for the chip.04:13
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humboltoI know lspci04:13
linux_galorehumbolto: whats the card04:13
MinatakuOh, then use the generic selection in the config04:13
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(Minataku/#kubuntu) Jucato: Why? Is using Linux illegal if you're under 18?04:43
(intelikey/#kubuntu) either or both.04:43
(Minataku/#kubuntu) Also keep in mind that such is not universal04:44
linux_galoreF***kbuntu04:44
Jucato<Minataku> Besides, anyone actually asking about Kubuntu is more than likely going to be old enough to know what pornography is04:44
MinatakuIt's 18 in the USA but differs outside it's borders04:44
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chickenerwell it depends on the state i the usa actually.  legal age can be 21.04:44
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adamwesti tried to install a theme but i tgave me an error at the end ---> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check04:44
Minatakuchickener: Nationwide legal age is 1804:44
MinatakuIndividual states are either that or lower04:44
chickenerMinataku:  the Bible Belt disagrees.04:44
Minatakuchickener: That's where I fear Jucato's standards are from04:45
Jucatothe point is, even if we presume anyone using Kubuntu would know what it is, it doesn't become an excuse to allow such talk to go on further04:45
JucatoMinataku: my standards are the Ubuntu IRC standards04:45
MinatakuWhich is why I said it's okay to keep things clean but there's a point where you're overboard04:45
NDPowerBookWait what?04:45
NDPowerBookThere's an age limit for using Kubuntu?04:45
chickeneri can name multiple places in the SE USA where porn/alcohol are not sold county wide.04:45
InuDuelistYes!04:45
TonrenNDPowerBook: Not that I know of.04:45
InuDuelistGawd, finally!04:46
linux_galoreNDPowerBook: no, a brain cell limit  heh04:46
InuDuelisthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30533704:46
InuDuelistLol, forum threads.04:46
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chickenerInuDuelist: what worked?04:46
InuDuelistCould someone hook up ubotu with !frostwire?04:46
InuDuelistWith an address to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305337?04:46
MinatakuJucato: There's also a difference between talking about the concept of pornography and actually disseminating such, the latter of which WOULD be unacceptable04:46
Minatakulol04:46
InuDuelistMinus the question mark at the end?04:46
adamwestguys, i tried to install a theme but i tgave me an error at the end ---> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check?04:46
Minatakuadamwest: That's a scary one04:46
intelikeyInuDuelist say !frostwire is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305337?04:47
NDPowerBookwww.ageofconsent.com04:47
chickeneradamwest: which theme?04:47
adamwest? why is that minataku04:47
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adamwestAlphacube-0.304:47
InuDuelistWhat, intelikey?04:47
Minatakuadamwest: It indicates that something could be seriously wrong with your system04:47
adamwestINTELIKEY hi :P04:47
InuDuelistHey, it's adamwest.04:47
Jucatoadamwest: you have build-essential installed already, right?04:47
intelikeyInuDuelist that will put in an infonode change request04:47
Jucatoadamwest: and kde-devel (and probably xorg-dev) too04:48
adamwest.. which means?04:48
intelikeyadamwest install build-essential04:48
adamwestwell i don't have kde-devel installed04:48
InuDuelistSo, like "!frostwire is A guide to install frostwire could be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305337 "?04:48
Jucatoadamwest: which means you need to install the compiler in order to compile, and you need to install the necessary headers too04:48
intelikeyInuDuelist yes04:48
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adamwestso i need kde-devel, xorg-dev and build-essential?04:49
intelikeyyep04:49
MinatakuI wish I had actually bought stuff at the oriental store...04:49
InuDuelist!frostwire is A guide to installing FrostWire can be found here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30533704:49
Jucatoadamwest: build-essential and kde-devel. not so sure about xorg-dev04:49
adamwesthow come they're not there already if it's such a big deal04:49
InuDuelistThat didn't do anything.04:49
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MinatakuI'm jonesing for some Japanese snacks right now :\04:49
InuDuelistOh, nevermind.04:49
InuDuelistYes it did.04:49
Jucatohm...04:49
intelikeyInuDuelist check your pm's04:49
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Minatakulol04:50
adamwestomg kde-devel comes with lots of stuff04:50
Jucatoadamwest: hm... wait...04:51
intelikeyadamwest size is the reason.   the install cd has only so much room04:51
adamwestoh04:51
adamwestwell lucky i have extra room in my partition now! :P04:51
Jucatoyou can probably get away with just installing kdelibs4-dev only04:51
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Jucatoadamwest: # of packages doesn't mean big size04:52
adamwestnm i'm installing that already04:52
intelikeyif that was luck that did it last night then yeah  lucky you.04:52
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adamwest:)04:52
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Rob-Westi need some help04:52
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northWestwhat do you need ?04:53
Rob-Westthe GUI nessed up04:53
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Rob-Westand i dont wanna reinstall04:53
Rob-Westcan someone help me fix it04:53
Jucatohow is it messed up04:53
northWestsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:53
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Rob-Westthanks northWest04:54
northWestanswer all the questions correctly04:54
Rob-Westi will04:54
northWestJucato you think i assumed too much there ?04:55
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JucatonorthWest: not really sure, as he didn't say what was wrong...04:55
northWesti know....04:55
MinatakuYou gotta remember where these people came from04:55
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MinatakuWindows just says "WRONG" and stops working04:56
northWestfrom the south east ?04:56
MinatakuThey don't realize that Linux actually TELLS YOU what's wrong04:56
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Rob-Westok now to reboot04:57
MinatakuThat's another thing they don't realize04:57
intelikeyyep04:57
MinatakuUnless it's a new kernel there's no rebooting04:57
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Minatakulol04:57
JucatoCtrl+Alt+Backspace is soo convenient04:58
MinatakuAnd as soon as kexec matures enough, even that will be done with04:58
Minatakulol04:58
intelikeywell if X was broken  then  Ctrl+Alt+Backspace  probably wouldn't do anything04:58
MinatakuWhat you'd have to do is restart kdm04:58
intelikeyit all depends on what 'broken' meant04:59
MinatakuUsually kdm will fail and then no X at all04:59
MinatakuAfter that as root just execute kdm04:59
MinatakuIf all is well it'll be back to normal04:59
Jucatowhich is what I was asking... what he meant by messed up04:59
intelikeyi prefer startx for testing the gui  then restart kdm if it works04:59
MinatakuIndeed, but again, a recent escapee from Windows Island04:59
juano__i have an ubuntu going through an ICS from windows XP, after 30 minutes or so workgroup is no longer browseable by icons, i have to type the hosts names to access shares05:00
juano__why am i having this problem?05:00
MinatakuThey don't know the outside world like we do, they've never been there before05:00
Minatakulol05:00
MinatakuCrap... Piyoko's clock has drifted too far back again >.<05:00
masewhat kind of video plugin can i get for mozilla firefox?05:00
MinatakuI'll fix it after I take my pills05:00
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intelikeymase apt-cache search firefox | grep plug05:02
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maseintelikey,05:03
masei got the vlc one05:03
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masebut everytime i try to open a mpeg05:03
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maseit says no video05:03
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Rob-Westits fixed thanks05:03
intelikeyok   yw05:03
Rob-Westits all fixed05:03
slyfoxIs there some kind of application that will work like in Apple Tiger - Quick Lunch Dock on desktop ?05:04
Jucatokxdocker, ksmoothdock, kiba-dock05:04
slyfoxJucato: :-) Which one ?05:05
Jucatoyou choose...05:05
intelikeyRob-West ffr when something is not working and you come to ask for help   try to be as specific discriptive and breef as possable     i kinda toke a shot in the dark on what you meant by 'messed up'   :)05:05
intelikeytook   even05:05
inteliwaspwhat is a nice way to erase a hard drive? ie: zero it out?05:05
intelikeydd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda      or hd1 for a partition05:06
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inteliwaspcould i use /dev/random as well?05:07
intelikeyinteliwasp yes and cat can do it too    cat /dev/zero > /dev/device05:07
intelikeydd is prefered.05:07
inteliwaspthanks05:07
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intelikeywhat you write to it is your choice05:08
inteliwaspi need this because i have a bum drive and i will be RMAing it05:08
intelikeybut be advised that urandom might actually put bad code on the disk.05:08
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MinatakuWell05:09
MinatakuIf it has ubersensitive dara05:09
Minataku*data05:09
MinatakuUse urandom and do at least 10 passes05:09
MinatakuThen hit it with one pass of /dev/zero05:09
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intelikeythere are certen bits of code that at the right place will generate  i/o errors.        so if you use urandom  i'd finish with zero for good measure.05:09
inteliwasper... i am not that paranoid... :P05:09
MinatakuIn that case, use a rescue-modified dd05:10
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MinatakuThat will ignore errors05:10
TonrenI'm trying to download this torrent: http://tinyurl.com/3b2f98 with ktorrent.  Encryption is on, my ports are all forwarded (I'm behind a router on a cable modem), but the torrent just sits there, stalled.  Absolutely nothing happens.05:10
inteliwasprescue modified?05:11
Minatakuinteliwasp: There are versions of dd that are intended for rescue operations05:11
inteliwaspoh05:11
MinatakuThey'll ignore things like read errors05:11
intelikeyi have seen this two times   where actual written data makes future disk i/o error at that point   in both cases writing zero to the disk permanantly fixed it.05:11
juano__i have an ubuntu going through an ICS from windows XP, after 30 minutes or so workgroup is no longer browseable by icons, i have to type the hosts names to access shares05:11
juano__why am i having this problem?05:11
inteliwaspa freindly note to all, don't buy maxtor drives...05:12
MinatakuNever had a problem with Maxtor05:12
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intelikeyin this box with 8 drives05:12
MinatakuHad one Western Digital that died after being idle for a year or two05:12
MinatakuClick of death05:12
intelikeyhas 2 wd's in it too05:13
intelikeyrest are sg's05:13
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inteliwasphuh... i have a WD drive for over 7 years and abused it (portable HDD) and it still runs great05:13
intelikeyjuano__ we are not ignoring you.  just don't have the answer.05:14
juano__intelikey: ok :-)05:14
intelikeyjuano__ you can ask in #ubuntu  and  ##linux   and ##linuxhelp  and  ##windows   also   there may be a #*networking channel too i've never looked for it.05:15
inteliwaspintelikey: just what do you do with your 8 drives anyway?05:15
MinatakuDon't answer05:16
MinatakuJucato will get angry05:16
Minataku;3 X305:16
inteliwasp???05:16
intelikeyjuggle them  ?05:16
pgdown8 drives?05:16
adamwestwell i'm off everyone05:16
intelikeyyeah  8 little bitty hd's05:16
adamwestgoodbye and thanks for all thefish :P05:16
inteliwasp42!!!05:16
pgdowndc++?05:16
intelikeynp  hope you learn how to fish.05:16
MinatakuWhat else would someone with 8 HDDs do? Store certain types of content on them.05:17
MinatakuWink wink05:17
Minatakulol05:17
juano__intelikey: dont get it.. first 30 minutes or so i can see group, enter group see pcs, shares , everything fine, from windows everything fine too, then all of a sudden, i cant access group browsing it from linux, but i can access other host by smb://hostname and from windows i can see workgroup but the only pc that appears in there is the windows one, but i can access linux by typing \\linuxpcname05:17
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Minatakujuano__: Probably Windows being a b?tch05:17
intelikeyjuano__ wifi reset ?05:18
intelikeyor is that wired ?05:18
juano__intelikey: no wifi, wired here05:18
juano__Minataku: probably yea :P05:18
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intelikeyidk.   i'm about as network illeterate as thet come.05:19
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juano__intelikey: im thinking maybe some kind of name resolution refresh or something, happens between windows and windows too.. so it isnt samba05:20
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intelikeyis the docter in?05:21
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intelikeyguess not.05:21
intelikeyJucato is a networking expert....05:21
intelikeyyou might get him to help ya05:22
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intelikeyoh don't be modest05:22
intelikeywe all know you are.05:37
intelikey:)05:37
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intelikeysurgy where you at in the indian teritory?05:37
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surgyintelikey: are you being racist?05:37
intelikeyyeah.05:37
surgyintelikey: j/k okc man why?05:37
surgyintelikey: where r u from?05:37
intelikeyjust wondering i got folds in tulsa  and aroung ten killer05:37
intelikeyfolks05:37
intelikeycan't type today.05:37
intelikeyfrom ft. hood  south of sanantone05:37
surgyten killer..... a great lake05:37
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intelikeyand a small town05:37
surgyyerp05:37
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surgyhey man do you know the defualt install directory of enemy territory?05:37
intelikeyno i don't     if it's not in your home  look in /usr/share/games   or /usr/local/ something       could be in /usr/games       hehhe i don't know.05:37
intelikeybut i'd look there   ^05:37
surgyintelikey its /usr/local thanks05:37
intelikeynp05:37
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TonrenHow do I connect using a proxy with Konversation?05:37
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intelikeythere are setting inside konv to use a proxy    can't tell you where, i don't use it.05:37
Tonrenintelikey: I couldn't find them.  :(05:37
Tonrenintelikey: Also, the help files don't mention them.05:37
surgytonren: settings > konversation settings > connection05:37
Tonrensurgy: Not there.05:37
Tonrensurgy: Konversation 1.0.105:37
TonrenKubuntu 6.1005:37
intelikey!Konversation dapper05:37
intelikey!info Konversation dapper05:38
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB05:38
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surgytonren: thats all i got man sorry05:38
Tonrensurgy: S'ok05:38
intelikeyVersion 0.19-0ubuntu405:38
crxyemanyone here using beryl ? ?05:38
intelikey!beryl05:39
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl05:39
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intelikeyberyl help is in #ubuntu-xgl05:40
crxyemsweet thanks05:40
surgyim having problems installing some software i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2598/ do i need to reinstall the software?05:41
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surgycrxyem: im running beryl but intelikey wont let you talk about it here go to #beryl05:41
slyfoxanyone uses skype with usb headset?05:42
slyfoxI cant get it to wrok, I see it as a sound device, but I have no sound05:42
moj0risingDoes anyone know of a good directory server for linux?05:42
moj0risingPreferably one that runs on (k)ubuntu.05:43
intelikeysurgy says the package is corrupt05:43
intelikeydl again05:43
surgyintelikey thanks thats all i needed to know :)05:43
intelikeyslyfox that's not the line in = line out bug is it ?   there is a bug... check the bug reports05:45
intelikey!buglist05:45
intelikey!bug05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buglist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:45
slyfoxintelikey: No, I have a USB headset05:45
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intelikeyok.  i don't know then.    see !sound05:46
dethklok!xcomfmgr05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xcomfmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
dethklok!xcompfmgr05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xcompfmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
dethklok!xcompmgr05:46
ubotuxcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3~20060831-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB05:46
dethklokSo will that not work on dapper?05:47
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intelikey!xcompmgr dapper05:47
dethklok!transset05:47
ubotuxcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1+cvs.20041109-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB05:47
ubotutransset: X transparency manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0+cvs.20041114-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 52 kB05:47
dethklokintelikey, OIC, thanks05:49
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dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo apt-get install xcompmgr dapper05:49
dethklokReading package lists... Done05:49
dethklokBuilding dependency tree... Done05:49
dethklokE: Couldn't find package dapper05:49
intelikeywelcome05:50
premier_hello, I had a problem last night relating to my computer stalling, and Ive managed to track down the problem05:50
premier_intelikey: you might rememeber this05:50
premier_well, what was happening (i think) was that I was ripping a dvd using mencoder, creating an avi file05:51
intelikeydrop the dapper on the end of that.     you only add the release name on bot calls05:51
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premier_then I moved the avi from my internal to my external hard drive05:51
intelikeypremier_ and ?05:51
dethklokintelikey, oh well see I installed it already and it was not working... thats why i originally asked the bot05:51
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premier_intelikey: sometimes, it seems, that mencoder would create a corrupt file, and when I tried to move it, it would bring the system down05:52
intelikeypremier_ i see.05:52
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intelikeydethklok  man xcompmgr   ?05:53
premier_mencoder only does this sometimes.  Ive done this about 15 times now, and its happened twice05:53
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intelikeypremier_ you weren't trying to write a 4g+ file to vfat fs were you ?05:53
premier_no05:53
intelikeyor 2g+ i mena05:54
premier_it ext3 -> ext205:54
intelikeyk05:54
premier_btw, how can I upgrade my external hard drive to ext3 without screwing up the data?  Is that possible?05:54
intelikeyyou can add a journal05:54
premier_okay05:54
intelikeyman mke3fs05:54
intelikeyerr e205:55
dethklokHow would I go about changing the font color in just the Konsole?05:55
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elyonCould someone please suggest an alternative to Limewire and Gtk-Gnutella?05:55
intelikeyset the scheema05:55
premier_dethklok: if you right click on the konsole window, and set the scheema05:55
intelikeyelyon frostwire ?  but that's not really different.05:56
elyonintelikey: I wanted to use frostwire, but it has never run... just crashes immediate with no messages.05:56
intelikeyelyon you tried to start it from konsole to make sure it didn't leave error messages ?05:57
dethklokpremier_, lol, that was easy enough05:57
dethklokthanks05:57
elyonintelikey: Ah... never thought of that ;)05:57
intelikeyelyon make a note.   that's always first step in debugging in linux    run from a terminal05:58
elyonintelikey: Alright.  I'll try to remember that.  Thank you.05:58
elyonintelikey: Ah.  Turns out I need to install Java ;)05:59
intelikeythere ya go.05:59
intelikey!java05:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:59
InuDuelistHai guys.05:59
intelikeyInuDuelist wb06:00
InuDuelistTime to configure Thunderbird.06:00
elyonintelikey: Thanks again... and I appreciate your help yesterday too.  Seems Kubuntu is running very well (although a lot of programs are still crashing pretty often)06:00
intelikeyelyon i'm pretty sure i mentioned running it from a konsole yestergo also, just missed it i guess.    you're welcome06:01
elyonintelikey: Yeah, I must have missed that.  I tend to not really notice messages that aren't highlighted lol06:01
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intelikeyelyon i have see runaway processes cause OOMK to "crash" things   when things are giving trubble   do a# ps -A x        and if there are lots of repetes    pages of them.   that's your problem.06:03
intelikeyseen06:03
intelikeyif that's it you will notice a lot of disk i/o befor things start dying tho06:04
MinatakuHeh06:05
MinatakuType free06:05
MinatakuIf you see VERY LOW VALUES, something is up06:05
MinatakuI know what OOM is like, Piyoko suffered from an ACPI bug that kept leaking memory until everything crapped out after a week >.<06:05
intelikeyMinataku in the -/+ line yes   but people never look there.  they always look at the first line and panic.06:06
MinatakuGood point06:06
MinatakuThey have two lines to look at, actually06:07
MinatakuThe +/- and Swap06:07
Lam_is there a kde shortcut to maxmize/minimize/shade a window?06:07
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intelikeyfree -m says 142m free but that's not the -/+  it's 230m  i only have 256m total06:07
Lam_nvm found it06:08
intelikeyLam_ i don't know if there is by default  but you can set them06:08
intelikeyok.06:08
Lam_intelikey: yeah i found them. thanks :)06:08
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intelikeybut not on this box.06:11
Minatakurofl06:11
intelikeyi just remembered that there is no login06:11
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intelikeythat would affect a full reboot06:11
MinatakuIf Kubuntu kernels have Magic SysRq06:11
MinatakuThen Ctrl+SysRq+F simulates full memory06:12
intelikeyMinataku yes.   and E should be about like kill -9 -106:12
intelikeybut i'd be forced to follow that with a three fingured salute06:13
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moparisthebestI just installed 6.1 and I am having a small problem06:14
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moparisthebestI enabled the multiverse repository06:14
moparisthebestbut it still cant find package sun-java5-jdk06:14
intelikey6.10       versioning is   year.month06:14
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intelikeyuniverse ?06:14
intelikey!sun-java5-jdk06:15
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4918 kB, installed size 11412 kB06:15
moparisthebestI enabled all of the repositories06:15
intelikeyyou applied the changes   updated the package database06:15
intelikey?06:15
moparisthebestyep06:15
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moparisthebestI enabled them through adept, in 6.06 I had to edit a file, does adept do it properly?06:15
intelikeypastebin your sources.list file06:16
intelikeycat /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
intelikey!paste06:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:16
MinatakuWhatever you do, if you use XChat, don't type "/exec -o cat /proc/urandom"06:17
moparisthebestok there: http://rafb.net/p/Qfuynz36.html06:17
intelikeyor /dev/hda06:17
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intelikeyyou don't have multiverse enabled06:18
intelikeyadd the word multiverse   to line 1706:18
moparisthebestthats how the documentation said to do it06:19
moparisthebestbut ok06:19
intelikeydo that; save and,  sudo apt-get update06:19
intelikeyclose adept first. of course06:19
intelikeygot that done ?  now you can install it.06:20
moparisthebestits all showing up now, thanks alot06:20
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intelikeyno problem06:20
moparisthebestisn't sun going open source anyway though?06:21
moparisthebestI read that they were, or did06:21
JucatoSun isn't. but Java is06:22
moparisthebestthats what I thought, so why is it still in the multiverse repository?06:22
intelikeymoparisthebest i have another methood for that.  but no one likes it.     sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list                                                                                  they say it's too dangerous, might break it.06:23
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moparisthebestI guess it would work. it could break if you ran it twice or something06:24
intelikeyno  twice wont hurt06:24
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Jucatointelikey is known to break stuff... vases, windows, Ubuntu06:24
moparisthebestok, ive only used 'sed' once06:24
moparisthebestbut its installing now, so its fine I guess06:25
intelikeyecho "deb some url main blah" | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g'                                 <<<< test06:25
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intelikeyecho -e "multiple lines of text \n \n something else \ndeb some url main blah \n more text\n" | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g'                                 <<<< test206:28
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smith_hiya06:29
intelikeysay smith06:29
intelikeyjones here.   how are you?06:29
smith_what is the last version of kubuntu ?06:29
moparisthebest6.1006:29
smith_6.10 ?06:29
moparisthebestEdgy I think06:30
intelikeylast ?   as in one before present ?06:30
moparisthebestI just installed it and am still configuring06:30
Jucato!edgy06:30
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes06:30
intelikey!dapper06:30
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".06:30
Jucato!feisty06:30
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:30
intelikey!breezy06:30
ubotubreezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"06:30
Jucatowe could go on and on...06:30
intelikeyno we run out in two more...06:31
moparisthebesthaha06:31
intelikey!hoary06:31
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"06:31
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intelikey!warty06:31
ubotuwarty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"06:31
dopeis there some sort of download manager for linux?06:31
intelikeynow we can't go on.06:31
Jucato!grumpy06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grumpy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
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Jucatodope: KGet?06:32
moparisthebestdope, apt-get06:32
moparisthebestadept06:32
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dopewill it let me resume a download?06:32
Jucatomoparisthebest: huh?06:32
moparisthebestor depending on what you mean...06:32
Jucatodope: yes06:32
dopepause and resume06:32
dopekk06:32
moparisthebestoh, nevermind then06:32
Jucatomoparisthebest: he said download manager06:32
moparisthebestyou could use firefox too06:32
intelikeydope wget is the down load manager for linux... kget for kde  i guess06:32
Jucatokget is a KDE frontend to wget afaik06:32
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dopeand i can resume right06:33
intelikeydope yes wget does resume06:33
dopeok kewl06:33
dope:|:|:06:33
pgdownanyone know how to get konqueror to use firefox's mplayer plugins?06:33
intelikeyit's called -c or --continue06:33
pgdownscanning for them doesnt do it06:33
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Jucatokonqueror has its own mplayer plugin06:33
moparisthebestpgdown: why not just use firefox?06:33
programador1hello06:33
pixelationI need the ability to remotely dial into my friends computer and use his desktop on mine... is this possible? is there certain software to get?06:33
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pgdownI want to use konqueror06:34
moparisthebestVNC would work pixelation06:34
pixelationOK cool :)06:34
OlgaBOh and Opera is still not working for me for some reason :|06:34
Jucato!kmplayer-konq-plugin | pgdown06:34
Jucato!info kmplayer-konq-plugin | pgdown06:34
OlgaBIt doesn't DNS resolve anything :(06:34
ubotuPackage kmplayer-konq-plugin does not exist in any distro I know06:34
Jucatobah...06:34
pgdownI dont like kmplayer06:34
OlgaBEverything else works fine06:34
moparisthebestKrdc looks like it would work too pixelation, I dont know anything about it though06:34
Jucato!info kmplayer-konq-plugins | pgdown06:34
ubotukmplayer-konq-plugins: KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 59 kB, installed size 212 kB06:34
moparisthebestIm just going by the description06:34
dwidmannkmplayer works very, very well as a konqueror plugin, so like it anyway ;)06:35
pixelationright on, thank you. :)06:35
Jucatopgdown: kmplayer is just a frontend to mplayer. that plugin allows konqueror to use mplayer as a plugin06:35
moparisthebestnp06:35
intelikeypixelation sure   he'll need to install software to answer the line and something like sshd  tightvnc-server  frenx  or the like06:35
pixelationwindows program?06:35
intelikey!freenx06:35
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:35
moparisthebestyou want to control a windows computer from a linux box?06:35
pgdownJucato: so how can I get kmplayer to use the firefox mplayer plugins?06:36
dwidmanna frontend to mplayer, xine, and gstreamer, actually. Weirdly enough, kplayer is a frontend to mplayer .... and only mplayer. Seems backwards to me.06:36
pgdownis it possible to not use kmplayer?06:36
pgdownit doesnt work very well06:36
pixelationyeah that's what I'm looken at06:36
Jucatopgdown: have you tried the plugin in konqueror? not kmplayer itself06:36
programador1kaffeine06:36
moparisthebestpixelation: I know VNC is cross platform and would work for that06:36
programador1very well06:36
intelikeypixelation is his box a dozer ?06:36
pgdownwhat plugin?06:36
programador1other option06:36
moparisthebestI don't know about anything else for that06:36
Jucatopgdown: I kept on reapeating it: kmplayer-konq-plugins06:37
Jucatothat's the name of the package you need to install06:37
pixelationmoparisthebest intelikely ... cool I'll try learning VNC... yes it is kinda a dozer06:37
pixelationI want to clean it all up for him.06:37
pixelationso it runs nicer06:38
pgdownyes, I have tried those...and I dont want to use them. they are not very good.06:38
pgdownis it possible to use the firefox mplayer plugins?06:38
moparisthebestgoodluck pixelation, Ive seen some dirty machines :P06:38
pixelationoh man... yeah lol.06:38
moparisthebestIll be back06:39
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pgdownkmplayer does not compare to the firefox mplayer plugins...06:40
pgdownhmm im getting more and more discouraged with konqueror...06:40
intelikeypro'b_lem is solve'd06:40
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intelikeypgdown what do you want konq to do ?      (behave like ie?)06:41
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Jucatomore like behave like firefox...06:42
intelikeythat was a stupid question.  it already does.06:42
pgdownintelikely: I just want decent plugins for konq...unsatisfied with kmplayer06:42
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pgdownI have most everything else set06:42
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pgdownJuacto: totally different06:43
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intelikeyi don't guess i'd know what a plugin was if it bit me.    probably never have used one.06:43
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pgdownI have both installed and mplayer/firefox just runs smoothly and the sound is crisp and the video is embedded. konq + kmplayer takes forever to buffer (and sometimes never fully buffers) the sound is dull and and the video is open as a separate window.06:44
Jucatohm... did you install kmplayer or the kmplayer plugin for konq?06:44
pgdownkmplayer plugin06:44
pgdownand I have scanned for the firefox/mplayer plugins & they are listed.06:45
pgdownbut not used.06:45
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pgdownand if I remove kmplayer plugins, videos do not play...just wondering how I can configure this to use the firefox/mplayer plugins (if possible)06:45
Jucatohm... check your File Associations?06:45
slacosseupgraded to 6.10, after installing firefox 2.0. NOw firefox 2.0 doesnt work. hmmm06:46
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pgdownJucato: lemme do that06:46
intelikeyso this "plugin" thing is a way to tie the two apps togather ?   make the one run inside the other ?06:46
Jucatopgdown: the one in the embedding tab06:46
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intelikeyinstall konversation# Suggested packages:  libsoap-lite-perl    Recommended packages:  ruby      hmmmm...06:49
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intelikeyi know i won't use it.06:49
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Jucatokonversation...06:50
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intelikeymaybe i'm getting weened from kde .....06:51
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intelikeyform cay dee ey06:51
Jucatomaybe06:51
tanlaanhello everyone06:51
moparisthebestI dont know what the kubuntu devs did, but 6.10 boots up at least 3X as fast as 6.0606:52
dwidmannpgdown, if you're still around, keep in mind that kmplayer defaults to using xine instead of mplayer for playback.06:52
intelikey!upstart | moparisthebest06:53
ubotumoparisthebest: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/06:53
dwidmannmoparisthebest: Hmm, I didn't notice any difference at all, ~20seconds for each06:53
pgdowndwidmann: I see that. I set it to play with mplayer (which is *a little* better) but still not as decent as the mplayer plugin http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net06:53
moparisthebestnifty intelikey, dwidmann its at least 3-4x as fast, of course I did go from an ATA hd to a SATA but it wouldnt have made that much of a difference06:54
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dwidmannmoparisthebest: yes it could, depending how old the pata hard drive was06:55
tanlaanive been having trouble with my wireless card, it seems to hate the wifi channels 6 and 11. The firmware of my wifi card is bcm43xx which is pretty much horrible with linux. But It does work with my home wifi, but not with my public librarys. So I was wondering if anyone knew of any reason why this might happen.06:55
intelikeymoparisthebest your differance may be "network" related.06:55
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moparisthebestit was ATA 100 dwidmann, everything else is the same intelikey06:55
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dwidmannMost SATA hard drives top out at around 60-65MB/s for non-cached reads. the 3 year old 120GB WD PATA hard drive in my brothers computer tops out at around 20 something MB/s06:56
intelikeymoparisthebest no.  everything else is not the same.   the way ubuntu sets up networking changed.06:57
moparisthebestI switched my windows install as well a few months ago, and it didnt make any noticeable difference, of course that was windows....06:57
moparisthebestah ok intelikey, thats what I said in the beginning was that it was something the kubuntu devs did06:57
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intelikeymoparisthebest it may have been waiting on a time out before  that it's not waiting on with upstart and the newer configs.06:58
moparisthebestpossible, something in kubuntu changed for the better for sure :)06:58
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dwidmannspeaking of hard drives, I got LVM set up last night. A 605GB XFS partition ... :D06:58
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intelikeyyes and "upstart" is most likely the answer.06:59
moparisthebestnice06:59
moparisthebestall of my harddrives added up are only 790gb :(06:59
dwidmannmoparisthebest: if you want to shave off a few more seconds, try changing "concurrency" to "shell" in your /etc/init.d/rc file07:00
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surgyhow do i kill x again?07:00
intelikeyall of mine are 12g07:00
slacossei am a simpleton, anyway i could get firefox to work? I have tried to reinstall/remove with synaptic.  NOw my add/remove is gone.07:00
moparisthebestthat wont screw anything up for me dwidmann ?07:00
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dwidmannthat 605 is a 250gb + 400gb (You only get to keep 92.5% of it though)07:01
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dwidmannShell won't screw anything up ... startpar would though07:01
nino!mp307:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:01
dwidmann(seeing as they advertise like say, 250GB .. they mean 250 billion, not 250 * 10^30 ... )07:02
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surgyhow do i kill x?07:03
intelikeysurgy sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:03
dwidmannctrl + alt + backspace | surgy07:03
intelikeyor stop   if all you want is to kill it.07:03
surgyintelikey: no i want to stay int erminal only mode to install my videocard driver from nvidia07:03
intelikeysurgy sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:03
surgyand then startx to start it back right?07:03
moparisthebestyea dwidmann you always get screwed out of some gb07:03
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intelikeyif you don't want kdm  yes07:04
MinatakuAdvertised capacity in GB / 1000 / 1000 * 1024 = Actual Capacity in MiB07:04
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intelikeysurgy sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start      if you do want kdm07:05
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intelikey?07:06
intelikeyad cap /102407:06
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smith_how i get beryl/xgl for kubuntu ?07:08
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Jucato!beryl | smith_07:08
ubotusmith_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:08
smith_ty07:09
intelikey!beryl07:09
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:09
hagabakais beryl pronounced like "burial"?07:09
intelikeyi did that first.....07:09
intelikeyi'm just lagging 30 seconds07:09
Jucatobe-reel07:09
Jucatoor be-ril07:09
hagabakabee reel?07:10
intelikeywell maybe you did it first...07:10
intelikeybut it don't look that way on my screen.07:10
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intelikeybrl07:11
surgyi need an older driver07:11
surgymy video card driver (GLX) works fine but everquest has messed up textures and i looked up the problem and its becuase of my driver07:11
intelikey!ati07:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:13
surgyintelikey, that doesnt solve the problem07:13
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surgyintelikey: thats for glx and legacy-glx my card is in the glx list but the eq forums tell me i need an older driver07:14
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intelikeythen if you follow the conventional thinking in this channel you need to upgrade your os   install the latest  get newer even if it means pre-alpha .....        oh sorry for the rant.07:16
jurhello07:16
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intelikeyi dont know what to tell ya.   get the driver and install it.07:17
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intelikeyif it's a kernel module build it   if it's something else dl it    idk....07:18
Jucatooh there07:18
Jucatowrong window07:18
intelikeyoh here.07:19
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Jucatos/shue/shoe07:20
Jucatointelikey said BANG to me in a PM...07:20
intelikeytattle tell.07:21
intelikeysnich.07:21
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Jucatoheheh07:21
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intelikeysee you do understand my humour some times.07:22
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dwidmannand finally, my rip/encode script is (more or less) perfected, there went a couple days of my life07:24
ForgeAusinteli you have humour?07:24
intelikeydwidmann and if you don't rm/overwrite/misplace/destroy it it will work until the next upgrade....07:25
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dwidmannintelikey, no, it should continue working without any problems07:26
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ForgeAusshue? or shoe?07:26
intelikeydon't you dare tell07:26
MinatakuOh, wait, I was wrong, sorry...07:26
MinatakuAdvertised capacity in GB * 1000 * 1000 / 1024 = Actual Capacity in MiB07:26
Minataku>.<07:26
MinatakuSorry about that07:26
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intelikey:)07:27
dwidmannI think it was something like advertised giggage / 1024 /1024 / 1024 = real giggage07:27
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MinatakuIt's 1:25AM here, I have a bit of an excuse XD07:27
Minatakudwidmann: Yeah, I had which operator went where all backwards07:28
dwidmannNo you don't. It's 1:25am here too07:28
Minatakudwidmann: Well, I apologized anyway07:28
Minatakulol07:28
intelikeyyou're both excused07:28
MinatakuYay!07:28
dwidmannhurrah07:28
MinatakuSorry, I'm just tired... I think I'll head off to sleep or something X307:28
dwidmannI have to stay up til 4 to drag my brother out of bed in the most rude and uncalled for of ways, because he neglected the part of his weekend where he was supposed to complete his project for skool07:29
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MinatakuOuch07:30
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dwidmannSpeaking of things, ever since we changed color cartridges in our printer, it doesn't want to print right :(07:31
dwidmannIt won't print shades of gray, they come out looking more like, pink, or something07:31
dwidmannor more of a reddish for darker grays07:31
familiahola07:31
dwidmannhello07:31
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familiaalguien sabe como instalar america's army?07:32
familiadoes anybody know how to install america's army?07:32
garrybno se puede07:33
familiapor que?07:33
dwidmannI've never done it, but I assume it would involve WINE07:33
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familiano07:33
garrybja, america's army es programa07:33
familiait's a linx version07:33
familiaes un juego para linux07:33
garrybi thought you were talking about america's actual army07:33
dwidmannAh, maybe they have instructions on their website?07:33
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Minatakudwidmann: Maybe the color cartridges are bad?07:34
dwidmanngarryb: but who would want to install that ... that would be like an instant invasion of privacy07:34
dwidmannminataku: maybe, I'm not sure, we just put the cartridge in07:34
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familiawhere can I find another channels07:35
familiafor IRC?07:36
dwidmannfamilia: you can get a list with the /list command07:36
familiathanks07:36
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Jucatohm..07:37
Minatakudwidmann: I'd check the red cart, there may be something wrong with it07:37
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MinatakuLike it's being triggered when it's supposed to be just black07:38
dwidmannHmm, I can I'll (attempt to) try that then07:38
dwidmannprobably tomorrow, because I don't feel like doing it right now, and I have a couple scripts that need updating07:39
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MinatakuHeehee07:39
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MinatakuIf it's like most problems it'll still be there tomorrow07:39
dwidmannIndeed07:39
intelikeydwidmann your script ?07:39
MinatakuNot that that's a good thing, it's just unfortunately a true thing >.<07:40
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dwidmannthese ones: http://www.xnowherex.net/ripit.sh and http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64/index.php07:40
intelikeywho's  rip/incode script ?07:40
MinatakuSorry... I think I'll head off now... getting more tired XD07:40
MinatakuNight, all ^^07:40
intelikeyah yours ,07:40
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dwidmannfirecrotch ... hehehee, such a funny name07:42
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hugo_how can I make user accounts with an uid below 1000 also show up in the gnome user-admin gui? all accounts above uid 499.07:42
intelikeygnome user-admin gui   would be a question for  #ubuntu07:43
hugo_uups07:43
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intelikeyreminds me of {es}elyon last night....    i can't get uesrs and groups to work  so i can't set a root password....    hehhe07:45
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jh38ansalut07:47
intelikeyyeah or howdy07:47
intelikey!fr07:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:47
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elyon!lamp07:48
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)07:48
elyonHey... is there any decent Linux software to help file taxes (similar to TurboTax or TaxAct)?07:48
intelikeyi don't see anything in the repos...07:50
elyonintelikey: Yeah, I didn't either... thought someone might now of some 3rd party app.07:50
Jucato!kmymoney07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
Jucatobah..07:51
elyon:)07:51
dwidmann!info kmymoney07:51
ubotuPackage kmymoney does not exist in any distro I know07:51
intelikeykmonet07:51
intelikeyy07:51
Jucato!info kmymoney207:51
ubotukmymoney2: Personal finance manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-4 (edgy), package size 6913 kB, installed size 14184 kB07:51
elyonI would think the OSS community would have an interest in something like that too.  But I guess they're too hardcore to be intimidated by paper filing ;)07:51
intelikeybut that's far from a "tax" program07:51
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JucatoI thought it did that too07:52
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intelikeyJucato maybe so  but if so i missed it.07:52
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surgywhats "glines"07:53
dwidmannbest bet is to try to run [insert tax program for windows]  in wine07:53
dwidmannI would assume07:53
intelikeygline in irc terms would be a ban   but in software terms glines is a game.07:54
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intelikeyoh my07:55
intelikeywould the real elyon please step forward07:56
elyon_intelikey: It's me... trying to register, but now my other name is stuck on here lol07:56
intelikeyyou can kill spooks if you are registered /msg nickserv help07:57
intelikey /msg NickServ recover nick passwd07:57
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intelikey /msg NickServ release nick passwd07:57
Jucatohuh?07:57
Jucato /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <nick's password>07:58
Jucatowhere <nick> is the ghost nick07:58
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intelikeyyes and if there is actually someone there use what i posted.07:58
elyon225There we go :)07:58
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elyon225Thank you.07:58
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snowrichardhello08:00
elyon225hmm... guess you can file your taxes on the web at turbotax.com.  Maybe I'll just have to go that route.08:01
intelikeyJucato ghost is evil if there is someone there.08:01
Jucatointelikey: there shouldn't be someone there if you own the nick08:02
Jucatobesides, the situation was different anyway08:02
intelikeybut recover doesnt simply kill their connection.08:02
intelikeyit will renick them08:02
intelikeybut if they don't exist has the same affect as a ghost command08:03
intelikeyyeah well anyway.  i like all that to be scripted, and nice is nice.  :)08:04
Jucatohuh what? I got lost in the conversation..08:05
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Pensacolakubuntu uses some of the media keys from my keyboard from a fresh install, where can I edit them?08:06
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intelikeyon elyon225's example it was a ghost/spook  but the use of /msg nickserv ghost nick passwd   if in some even should be used where someone else is logged in with your password, it gives no warning it just disconnects you from the network.    kinda heavy handed imo08:07
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intelikeyeven event08:07
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intelikeyand using a script that is commonly frowned upon in irc channels     (when they are busy anyway)08:13
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elyon225intelikey: I'll not do it then :)08:14
intelikeygood on ya08:14
Jucatogood... because I don't want to do something untoward08:14
Jucato:P08:14
intelikeycrocked ?08:15
Jucato??08:15
intelikeycroocked ?08:15
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Jucatocrooked?08:15
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intelikeycrooooked ?08:15
bowensI'm getting a funky error with apt-get, I am able to download other files, but if I use the "--reinstall" flag I get "reinstallation is not possible, it can't be downloaded" I've tried googling this error but the only references to it are a glitch in apt-get from a couple years ago, somehow I don't think that's the case here08:15
Jucatowhat error do you get when you try to install normally?08:16
bowensi don't08:16
bowensthe problem is when i try to re-install08:17
intelikeypost the error08:17
bowensk, hold on08:17
Jucatoah08:17
Jucato!pastebin08:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:17
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MenaFriends I have 256 Ram Is there a problem if i make the swap partition 2 giga or 1 giga08:18
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intelikeynope08:18
bowenshttp://pastebin.com/86552608:18
intelikeyor 10m or none or 100g08:18
Mena??!!08:19
JucatoMena: I'd say 1GB would be a safe size08:19
intelikeywell swap may not support 100g yet  haven't looked into that.08:19
intelikeyi'd say any size would be upto the limit of swap08:19
sleepy745is the latest version of Kiba Dock buggy? when I select something from the menu it crashes08:20
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Menaintelikey, and jucato i said that bec i found that my system is slow a bit so i asked maybe this is the reason08:20
Menajucato , okay thanks08:20
intelikey!linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic08:20
ubotulinux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-10.34 (edgy), package size 22444 kB, installed size 65968 kB08:20
intelikeybowens did you remove main from the repos ?08:21
bowensnope08:21
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Nukedisnt there a new release of kde?08:21
bowensthe kernel image still appears in the list of installed components08:21
JucatoNuked: none yet08:22
JucatoNuked: 3.5.6 will out soon... when? very soon...08:22
NukedI thought it was out already08:22
Nukedpclinuxos has it if memory serves me correctly08:22
Menai think that there is a a new realese every 3 monthes is that right08:23
JucatoMena: no08:23
Menajucato, ok08:24
JucatoKDE doesn't follow a set release pattern like GNOME08:24
MenaJucato, ok08:24
JucatoNuked: some distros were too eager to release it, and they didn't anticipate a delay08:24
intelikeyJucato that package is still avalable in main isn't it ?   linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic08:24
Nukedgood call08:24
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Jucatointelikey: the latest is in edgy-security08:25
jack_deltrinohi all08:25
intelikeybut that's not the question08:25
Jucato!info linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic edgy-security08:25
ubotulinux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-10.34 (edgy), package size 22444 kB, installed size 65968 kB08:25
Jucatoyes it's in edgy-security/main08:25
jack_deltrinoi'm not on a kubuntu machine (gentoo in fact), but a friend of mine was wondering what graphical tools he could use to choose what wireless network he's connected to08:26
jack_deltrinoany thoughts?08:26
MenaJucato, What Is Linux Image and What that mean08:26
intelikeybowens pastebin your sources.list08:26
Nukedjucato there is an edgy-security?08:26
JucatoMena: better ask intelikey. I'm not too familiar with the deeper workings of the kernel08:26
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JucatoNuked: uhuh. it's in the default sources.list08:27
MenaJucato, okay08:27
Nukedand the new kde is there ?08:27
Nukednot that I am in a rush08:27
JucatoNuked: no08:27
Menaintelikey, What Is Linux Image and What that mean plz08:27
Nukedsorry my mistake08:27
Jucatothe new KDE will be in kubuntu.org repositories08:27
bowensdammit is there just a place where i could download the deb file and force install it than play this tomfoolery?08:27
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jack_deltrinoso?08:29
jack_deltrinokwifimanager eh? thanks </sarcasm>08:29
intelikeyMena the linux-image-* is the name for the binarry package of the linux kernel   the package linux-image  is a meta package that is set to always depend on the latest avalable release of the kernel for that particular release of *buntu08:29
Menaintelikey, okay08:30
intelikeyMena in other words,  if you have linux-image install your systems package manager will allways have the latest update as a dependancy    thus any time an update/upgrade is done you get the newer kernel patches08:31
intelikeybowens maybe.   try this.   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:33
krautmoin08:33
Menaintelikey, ok thats good so that i get updates08:33
intelikeyMena yes.   and you do need the security updates repository enabled in your sources.list08:34
bowensintelikey: not a good idea, alot of my work was specifically on the 2.6.17-10-generic image, i need that one, no other.08:34
MotorCityMadMan!usb08:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:34
bowensbut like an idiot, i believed the suspend2 crowd who said their patch would work on my HP08:34
Menaintelikey,yes i get security updates08:34
sleepy745How do I UN-compile something I compiled, latest version of kiba-dock isn't working too good08:34
intelikeybowens ok.   have the install disk ?08:35
intelikeybowens your kernel is on it.08:35
bowensnope08:35
bowensoh wait yes08:35
Menaintelikey,thanks very much08:35
bowensbut that's not the 2.6.17-1008:35
intelikeyMena yw08:35
bowensI tried that already08:35
intelikeybowens no ?08:36
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intelikeywhat is it ?08:36
intelikeyit's 2.6.17???08:36
bowensyes08:36
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intelikey???08:36
bowensspecifically 2.6.17-10-generic08:37
intelikeyexpecting that to be interpreted ....08:37
intelikeyah08:37
bowensand i can't find a single place to download it from08:37
intelikeylet me look around a little.08:37
bowensi'm ready to scream at google, it is finding every reference except a download link, if i didn't know better i'd swear i'm being given the runaround by them on purpose08:38
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intelikeybowens linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17-10.33_i386.deb <<< that what you want ?08:41
bowensyep08:41
intelikeyk let me get a url for you08:41
bowensbut i don't know the secret handshake LOL08:41
bowensi swear, why is it so hard to find?08:41
bowensi've googled for 2 days08:41
intelikeyhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17-10.33_i386.deb      try that.08:42
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bowensthanks :)08:43
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sparrhow can i re-display the dialog that pops up the first time i run kaffeine?  the one with the red/green checklist of features/codecs/etc08:43
intelikeyis that all the "tomfoolery"  for today ?08:44
bowensno more goofing around with suspend2 for me :)08:45
intelikeybowens and you can use dpkg to install that.   right ?08:45
bowensusing it sure, making certain the kernel installs without any strange errors nobody can explain, well i'm keeping my fingers crossed08:46
MotorCityMadManI had to use "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" to mount a usb stick. How does won get it to automount ?08:47
bowensthis is object lesson in not using your main machine as a guinea pig08:47
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intelikeyslow fuse08:48
intelikeyMotorCityMadMan you can put a referance in the fstab if that's a more or less permanant peace of hardware  but automounting removable drives is a thorn in the penguin's side08:50
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sparrI am booting kubuntu from a CD.  I would like to watch media files, using various codecs, from my hard drives.  Kaffeine seems to want mplayer codecs in /usr/lib/codecs, so i downloaded all-20061022.tar.bz2 from mplayerhq.  Kaffeine still wont play video or audio from the file(s) in question.  Help?08:50
intelikey!mp308:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:51
MotorCityMadManintelikey: not permanant hardware08:51
Pensacolakhotkeys doesn't work08:52
MotorCityMadManintelikey: the problem started when i did a kde upgrade to 3.5.508:53
MotorCityMadManmost be a kde 3.5.5 upgrade bug.08:54
sparrintelikey: instructions are out of date and/or [non-k] ubuntu-specific.  how do i add non-free to my sources?08:54
Menaintelikey,unattended upgrades Do i need this package08:54
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MotorCityMadMan<--get's out pee-shooter and starts shooting known bug's08:55
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yintelikeoh a libc6 update   that requires a reboot.08:59
bowensoh this is ridiculous08:59
bowensSTILL getting the same alsa error08:59
sparrrunning a [k] ubuntu livecd, is there any way to backup my unionfs to a hard drive so i can maintain my changes between reboots?09:00
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xenophile7x7_sparr: im pretty sure you can do it through a USB drive, im not pos about using your HD though09:05
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max_hi!!!!!!09:08
max_i'm alone?09:08
max_doh!09:08
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xenophile7x7_lol09:08
Pensacolalol09:10
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pgdownhello09:21
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sparrxenophile7x7_: how with a usb drive?09:26
xenophile7x7_hmmm...idk for sure, gimme a min to look it up.  ive never tried it, but ive read about it for other distros09:28
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posingaspopularyou COULD save the files to your USB and then install them after the reboot09:31
max_hi09:32
xenophile7x7_sparr: i cant find the book i had on it.  it may be specific to that cd, but im not pos.09:32
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xenophile7x7_some with a bit more knowledge than i could probably help you better09:32
gan|y|medhi09:32
xenophile7x7_hey gan09:32
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gan|y|medi would like to know why adept-update wants to install gstreamer for the mozilla totem plugin? is there a change from xine to gstreamer again?09:33
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gan|y|mednobody?09:39
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xenophile7x7no idea gan09:40
xenophile7x7ary09:40
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milos83i have installed java 6 manually. how to uninstall it now?09:42
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milos83can someone help?09:44
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dwidmannmilos83: it's easy09:48
dwidmannyou just delete the extracted folder, wherever it was that you put it09:48
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milos83i got messege: access denied09:49
dwidmanngan|y|med: ubuntu gnome defaults to using gstreamer, so that's probably why it's wanting gstreamer09:49
dwidmann!sudo | milos8309:49
ubotumilos83: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:49
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gan|y|medi thought they changed to xine in... uhhh breezy?09:51
milos83java is extracted on my desktop. what do i have to type in konsole to remove it? i am new on linux09:51
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dwidmanncan't recall, that's just what I remember gan|y|med, I do know for certain that ubuntu with kde defaults to all apps using xine though ...09:53
gan|y|medi got around it. deinstalled the totem plugin. thx09:54
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the-ermI've screwed up, I need some help.  I chowned my entire /var dir when I wanted to just chown /var/www10:00
the-ermAnyone willing to help a dumbass?10:00
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shegmani cant change my desktop wallpaper anymore. why? and how to make it work again?10:03
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sakiheya10:04
sakiI had a question about upgrading my kubuntu version10:04
Lynoureask away...10:05
Lynourewe are bad at answering telepathic questions :)10:05
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sakium...how would I go about upgarding my core kubuntu from my current version to the newest or even the experimental?10:07
LynoureWhich one is your current one?10:07
sakigood question ^_^10:07
sakiI've had this cd for so long, I don't remember10:07
sakiI think its dapper10:07
Jucatosaki: "lsb_release -a" to find out10:08
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sakioo...breezy badger10:08
JucatoO.O10:08
sakiheya Jucato10:08
Jucatoyou have a long upgrade path ahead of you....10:08
saki^_^ Didn't see you there10:08
Jucato<Jucato> saki: "lsb_release -a" to find out ^_^10:09
sakiyeah I wasn't looking at the name10:09
sakiso how do I go about this?10:09
Jucatobreezy -> dapper first then dapper -> edgy10:09
Jucatobut from Dapper to Edgy, you need special instructions...10:09
Jucatoso generally, if you have backups...I would recommend just installing straight edgy...10:10
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sakimmm...kay?10:11
sakiI have no backups, but I can just goto Edgy?10:11
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Jucatonope. you can't go straight..  you have to upgrade to Dapper first10:11
sakilike without downloading the cd and reinstalling everything?10:11
sakiight10:11
sakihow do I go about this10:11
Jucato!upgrade10:12
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:12
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Jucatothat's for Dapper to Edgy10:12
Jucatofor breezy to dapper...10:12
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:13
Jucatosaki: the Dapper to Edgy upgrade might be a bit bumpy. make sure you follow those instructions very carefully10:13
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NeoChaosXanybody here?10:23
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sakiyeah I am10:25
saki35mins till crackdown beta is released10:25
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NeoChaosXlooks like an interesting game10:26
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kub25ppls10:27
kub25i need little information10:27
sakiTell us the reason for which  you ask assistance10:27
kub25if i play a game and the computer stop responding10:27
kub25what is the combination of keys10:28
kub25to exit10:28
sakireboot10:28
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JucatoO.o10:28
Jucatokub25: what kind of game is it?10:28
kub25i tryed with Ctl+Alt+Del10:28
kub253d Game10:28
sakictrl+alt+backspace will get you out to kdm/gdm10:28
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kub25i'm playing it with Wine10:28
sakicould be why its freezing up10:28
Jucatohm..10:29
sakiV_V10:29
Jucatokub25: Alt+Tab doesn't work anymore?10:29
kub25nop10:29
Jucatokub25: does the keyboard respond at all?10:29
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kub25nop10:29
Jucatook... not good...10:29
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JucatoCtrl+Esc no good?10:30
kub25and somthimes KDE crashes, don't know why, but its not problem, nothing happend when it crash,..10:30
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sakiwhat video card are you running?10:30
kub25Radeon 960010:31
sakiare you using the standard drivers?10:31
sakior the ones from ATI?10:31
sakior the ones from the hackers?10:31
kub25ATI i think...10:31
sakim'kay10:31
sakiyou need to install the DRI drivers10:31
kub25dunno i'm not installed10:31
sakiATI doesn't like linux atm10:31
kub25drivers.10:32
sakiit could be the cause for both types of crashes10:32
sakiso you're using the straight up drivers that came with kubuntu?10:32
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kub25yes10:32
sakigoto ati.com and get their linux drivers10:33
sakiand see if that helps10:33
kub25ok10:33
sakiif not, theres a way to install DRI drivers which are way better atm10:33
sakibut its a pain in the neck10:33
kub25I don't really know10:34
saki^_^ Its okay10:34
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kub25what is my edition of Kubuntu x64 or x 8610:34
sakiumm...?10:34
sakiwhich one did you install10:34
kub25where i can chek it10:34
kub25i don't remember10:34
Perunahello, is there a Bandwidth monitor for Kubuntu which shows how much I have downloaded/uploaded until now ?10:34
sakiPeruna: there are super karamba gadgets which will do that10:35
saki^_^10:35
Perunaok10:35
kub25but i know my configuration, AMD Sempron 2Ghz 2600+ 64Bit...10:35
sakiPeruna: also ksystemmon does it too10:35
Lynouresaki: I never felt my Radeon X600 was linux unfriendly. I do not do 3d games, but even 3d worked out of the box with dapper on this lappy10:36
sakikub25: I do believe you have normal x86, because wine doesn't like 64bit10:36
sakiLynoure: I know, but some others are really PMSing10:36
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sakiespecially the older ones10:36
Perunaok thnx saki10:37
sakiI've installed Edgy on a computer with a 9800pro and it was a biotch until I got better drivers installed10:37
sakieven nVidia cards should use the nVidia drivers over what comes out of the box for best performance10:37
LynoureIt's annoying most graphic card makers do not release specs or open source drivers10:38
sakiATI is supposed to be going open source10:38
sakinow that they've merged with AMD10:38
kub25yes i think that is for good10:39
LynoureI'd be surprised.10:39
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kub25i need little help for KTorrent, and other torrent clients..10:40
kub25i can download torrents from Internet , but not from my Local network, (invalid tracker response) :(10:40
sakiO_o10:41
Skrot-Which version of ktorrent and which website?10:41
sakiyou want to download a torrent from your network?10:41
Perunasaki: I meant like showing "how much packet" you have downloaded ... not downloading10:41
kub25yes10:41
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kub25it don't start to download10:41
sakiPeruna it does10:41
Skrot-kub25: DHT or something?10:42
Perunasaki the widget shows only speed10:42
sakiIn System Monitor, the second tab third option is Network history10:42
kub25yes yes10:42
saki@-@10:42
Skrot-kub25: But are you also trying to connect to a internet tracker?10:42
kub25no10:42
kub25i am using VPN to connect internet,10:42
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kub25when vpn ON local is down10:43
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kub25i can download from Inet, but from local network i cant, i see "stalled"10:43
Skrot-kub25: Invalid tracker response usually means that the tracker doesn't like the info ktorrent is sending out10:43
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Perunasaki: oh KDE SYstem Guard doesn't have a tab like that10:44
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kub25i've tryed also with Azueros or somth..10:44
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sakiPeruna: try to install System Monitor10:44
Skrot-kub25: That didn't work either?10:44
sakignome-system-monitor10:44
kub25no, not work10:45
sakiit'll work in KDE10:45
sakiand shows you what you want10:45
Skrot-kub25: Have you considered the tracker/other client to be the problem?10:45
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Perunasaki: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1944110:45
ademanhas anyone found that amarok's lyrc script doesn't work?  (Note: i'm on GNOME if that might possibly have something to do with it)10:45
Perunasaki: you meant this ?10:45
Perunaoooh10:46
sakiO_o not really10:46
saki^_^10:46
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sakijust use sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor10:46
sakior use your normal package manager10:46
Jucatoademan: works here. do you have ruby installed (I think it's requiered)? check if the Lyrics script is running in Tools -> Script Manager10:47
Perunaok10:47
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kub25what did u mean?10:48
Skrot-kub25: I can't answer pm10:48
kub25ok10:48
kub25tell me10:48
ademanJucato: yep i got ruby 1.8, and yeah i activated it in the script manager10:48
ademanthen i got an error that the script exited with error code 110:48
Jucatohm... strange.10:48
ademanit failed on a connect() function, which is kind of wierd10:48
the-erm:(10:48
Jucatomight want to ask in #amarok10:49
ademandidn't know there was one :-)10:49
ademanthanks10:49
kub25is the problem in the tracker propably?10:49
Skrot-kub25: When two differen torrent clients can't download a file it usually means the tracker is the problem or your settings (e.g the tracker doesn't support default ports 6881-6889), but since you're downloading from lan i have no idea10:49
sakiare they supposed to be fixing it where you can apt-get more than one thing at a time?10:49
kub25ok, how i can change the ports??10:49
kub25in KTorrent..10:50
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Skrot-Settings -> Configure Ktorrent -> Downloads -> Port:10:51
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kub2510x ill try it10:51
kub25and 1 more think, how to install .rpm packages?10:51
Skrot-Download alien, and use it to convert them to .deb10:52
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ForgeAusdoes kpackage install .rpms?10:52
Jucato!alien | kub2510:52
ubotukub25: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:52
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franxhi, im sorry to bother everyone but i have a nvidia driver question10:53
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franxsome how i broke my nvidia drivers so im trying to fix it uo10:53
kub2510x bye10:53
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franxive apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common10:54
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ForgeAusyeah if you have rpm and kpackage from adept you can use kpackage to install an rpm10:54
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ForgeAusgenerally its better to get a .deb or a .tar.gz if possible tho10:55
sleepy745what kind of new eye candy features are in the new beryl version?10:55
max_hi10:55
sleepy745should i use adept to just upgrade?10:55
franxand now when i reinstall nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-common wants to install it for 2.6.17-10-386 rather than -generic which is my uname -r10:55
the-ermI'll try again ... I ran chown www-data:www-data /var -Rc I was trying to run chown www-data:www-data /var/www/ -Rc  anyone mind helping with a file list?10:55
Jucato!beryl | sleepy74510:55
ubotusleepy745: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:55
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nodeserthello from turkey10:55
nodeserti m new about linux10:56
max_i used ./configure than make and then install to (install) kde-theme. to remove all i should simply use "make remove"?10:56
max_sorry for my bad english..10:56
sleepy745but it doesn't tell me i I need to delete my old beryl or just upgrade over it, what do you think?10:57
max_...10:58
Jucatosleepy745: it does tell you that people in #ubuntu-xgl would know about Beryl better10:58
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Perunaanyone here would like to help me install KBFX ?11:02
Jucatosudo apt-get install kbfx11:02
Jucato??11:02
PerunaI want to install kbfx silk .. but I already have spinx version11:03
Perunais there a way to remove it first ?11:03
Jucatohow did you install spinx?11:03
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PerunaI think it came with 0.4.9.2 version11:04
JucatoPeruna: hm... ok, how did you install kbfx?11:05
nodesertdid you try package manager to remove11:05
PerunaI downloaded the package and used ./configure ..etc11:05
nodesertmake remove ?11:05
PerunaAdept shows that I don't have kbfx installed11:06
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Perunaoh I will try that11:06
Jucatoerr11:07
Jucatomake uninstall11:07
nodesertor you can reinstall it then you can remove with apt-get11:07
Perunaok11:07
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Jucatobut if and only if you kept the directory where you ran make11:07
nodesertyes11:07
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roniezI am trying to mount my scandisk memory card. but its not automounted. and i know there is stuff on it. and i cant find it in fdisk -l11:07
roniezanybody that can help me?11:08
Jucatogo into that directory (where you ran ./configure, make, make install) and run "make uninstall"11:08
Jucatothat was for Peruna11:08
trlphthi guys11:08
PerunaJucato : I will try it11:08
trlphtand others11:08
Jucato!hi11:08
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:08
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Perunahi trlpht11:08
trlphtso we are all kubuntu users ae?11:09
roniezyea11:09
trlphtcool... i'm waiting to replace it with opensuse... no offense11:09
trlphti've been using this for about 3 months though11:10
trlphtits different11:10
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roniezi am trying to figure out how to mount my scandisk11:10
zakamehi all11:10
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Jucatohi zakame!11:11
trlphtmount your what?11:11
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zakameyo operator Jucato11:11
Jucatohehe :)11:11
roniezmy scandisk11:11
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zakameanybody here gotten wlassistant to work nicely with resolvconf? :D11:11
roniezu now memory sticks for cameras and phones..11:11
roniezzakame: naw mine works good11:12
roniez'11:12
trlphtoh... sandisk or flash drive11:12
trlphttehee11:12
roniezyea11:12
trlphtnormally its just ...11:12
trlphtsudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt11:12
roniezshould be.11:12
zakameroniez: I assume wlassistant only11:12
roniezbut it aint working. :S11:12
roniezzakame: : yeep11:13
trlphtwhat is the error?11:13
nodesertwhat kind of format is used on ur scandisk11:13
roniezi tried to gregb sd from dev. but i only got ptysd and ttysd11:13
roniezwindows mobile fat16 i think11:13
roniezits from my mda vario'11:14
trlphtdo you have a usb reader?11:15
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roniezits direct cscan disk reader11:15
roniezok mi just dmesg | tail11:15
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roniezand it founds ad card detected in ssocket 311:15
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roniez[17182074.068000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 311:16
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kub25hey11:17
kub25when i donwloaded the ATI drivers11:17
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kub25how to install the .run package??11:17
PerunaJucato : I used KBFX 0.4.9.3-20070117 with ./build.sh , and I got KBFX Spinx DEVEL istanlled , even though It should have been Silk11:17
trlphthi11:17
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JucatoPeruna: I'm not familiar with KBFX. but Silk might be the development version of KBFX. or you might have downloaded the wrong installer11:18
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intelikeydoes anyone know what kind of code or where linux would be leaving in  maybe bios    or disk io buffer or someplace ?   vidio card maybe....    that would be causing windows  lock up at boot time ?11:19
intelikeyacpi ?11:19
roniezargh... i cant find it..11:19
Perunaoh11:19
intelikeyevery reboot from linux to windows windows will lock up while starting, with "protection error"   but if you power off then boot to windows never an error.    so i know for sure it is linux doing it.11:19
intelikeyi just don't know how or where11:20
intelikey?11:20
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roniezanybody think they can help? i can see that the kubuntu has detected the sd card but i cant find it in dev.11:20
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DarkWizdomanyone knows good soft for configuring videocard on kubuntu?11:21
apokryphosDarkWizdom: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic11:21
intelikeyroniez sd card ?    dmesg | grep sd11:21
DarkWizdomthanks11:21
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intelikeyanybody got clues ?11:23
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roniezintelikey: yeep it detecteds it has been put in to socket 311:25
roniez[17183317.132000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 311:26
roniezbut when i go to /dev to see it i cant find anything with SD11:26
intelikeyroniez i'm not familear with sd cards, in fact not sure what an sd card is ?11:28
roniezflash drive11:28
roniezscandisk11:28
roniezmemory sticdks for cameras and some smart phones.11:28
intelikeyok  and there is no /dev/sd* ?11:28
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ronieznotpe11:28
roniezroniez@laptop:/$ ls /dev/ | grep sd11:29
roniezptysd11:29
roniezttysd11:29
roniezis what i get.11:29
intelikeyroniez ok you'll have to   sudo modprobe <correct_driver>11:29
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roniezand if i dont know it?11:29
roniezthe driver.11:29
intelikeyi'd start with   sudo -i      then  . /etc/bash_completion     then  modprobe sd[tab_key] 11:30
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intelikeymaybe two tab-keys   should give a list    may not be in the list but that's where i'd start.11:31
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intelikeysudo -i11:31
roniezyeaq11:31
intelikey . /etc/bash_completion11:31
roniezdone that.11:31
intelikey modprobe sd[tab_key] 11:31
roniezroot@laptop:~# modprobe sd11:31
roniezsdhci   sdla    sd_mod11:31
intelikeysd_mod11:32
intelikeythen look for the device again11:32
roniezdone.11:32
eeoshi everybody!11:32
roniezroot@laptop:~# ls /dev/ | grep sd11:32
roniezptysd11:32
roniezttysd11:32
eeosis there any alternative to XVIDCAP on kubuntu (possibly kde based)?11:33
roniezthats it.11:33
intelikeysdhci11:33
intelikeythen look for the device again11:33
francissalut11:33
roniezroot@laptop:~# sdhci11:33
roniez-bash: sdhci: command not found11:33
intelikeymodprobe that ^ of course11:33
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roniezroot@laptop:~# modprobe sdhci11:33
roniezroot@laptop:~# sdhci11:33
roniez-bash: sdhci: command not found11:33
intelikeynow look for the device     ls /dev/sd*11:34
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ronieznioe,11:35
ronieznope* funkar inte.11:35
intelikeyroot@laptop:~# modprobe sdla11:35
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intelikeynow look for the device     ls /dev/sd*11:35
eeosor any other way to capture what is going on an X-Widonw diplay? to prepare some training videos11:35
ronieznothing there intelikey11:36
intelikeyroniez when you hit the correct driver it will make the device node and you can put the name of the driver in /etc/modules   so it will load each boot time11:36
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intelikeyroniez is that usb ?11:36
ronieznope11:36
roniezdirectly a sd card.11:36
intelikeyk11:36
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roniezbah, i just have            x it when i am at my destination.11:37
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roniezi am heading to usa from holland.11:37
roniezgot a nice 12hr flight to look forward too...11:37
intelikeyyou can also use     lshw | less11:37
unix_infidelcongrats, where you headed to?11:37
roniezwhat does that doo?11:37
intelikeyto look at details of the device11:37
roniezAustin, Texas.11:37
roniezfrom Amsterdam.11:37
roniezmiddle land in memphis.11:38
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nodeserti was in memphis last summer :D11:38
unix_infidelroniez: ahh, austin.  While dutch girls are nice, you'll have a LOT of fun with Austin girls.11:39
intelikeymaybe the details will match something in /lib/modules/*/`uname -r`/*/    and you can modprobe that.  that's where all your modules are.11:39
roniezpfft. screw dutch girls11:39
roniezswedish girls all the way11:39
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roniezi am swedish man.11:39
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unix_infidelroniez: either way, you'll have a ball in austin11:39
Kabalroniez: you're supposed to screw dutch girls hehe11:40
intelikeyguys.11:40
roniezhehe kabal :D11:40
roniez             description: Mass storage controller11:40
roniez             product: PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller11:40
roniezi found that ounder11:40
roniez*-storage11:40
intelikeytry   modprobe pci[tab] 11:41
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roniezroot@laptop:~# modprobe pci11:41
roniezpci          pci200syn    pciehp       pci_hotplug  pcilynx      pcips211:41
roniezpci_hotplug?11:42
intelikeythe next line of that lshw output   ^  would be nice too11:42
roniez  *-storage11:42
roniez             description: Mass storage controller11:42
roniez             product: PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller11:42
roniez             vendor: Texas Instruments11:42
roniez             physical id: 10.311:42
roniez             bus info: pci@00:10.311:42
roniez             version: 0011:42
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intelikeyso ti something11:43
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Jucatoapokryphos: oops.. sorry... :(11:43
apokryphos!paste11:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:43
roniezargh... kk, where is the paste link?11:43
roniezthx apokryphos11:43
intelikeyroniez    it11:43
roniezWhat?11:43
intelikey   ti  texas insterments     ti11:44
roniezyea?11:44
roniezwhat do i do with that?11:44
MenaFriends If i had 2 Os One Xp and the other one is Kubuntu So if i log in Xp viruses would infect it the xp11:44
intelikeymodprobe ti[tab]    and see what you see11:44
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the-only-real-shi cant change my desktop wallpaper anymore. why? and how to make it work again?11:45
apokryphosJucato: what for? :)11:45
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Jucatoapokryphos: for not noticing even if I'm not /away...11:45
roniezintelikey: i have a few there.11:45
apokryphosJucato: no worries, no-one ever watches all the time :P11:46
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ronieztifm_7xx1 tifm_sd tipar ti_usb_ tifm_core11:46
Jucatoapokryphos: thing is, I was... although staring blankly...11:46
intelikeytifm_sd ?11:46
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apokryphosJucato: 8)11:46
ronieztried that still cant find it.11:46
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intelikeytifm_7xx111:46
ronieztried that also11:47
Jucatoapokryphos: more like  -_-11:47
intelikeyapokryphos might be able to answer how to get your sd card functioning roniez11:47
roniezyea  will have to do it when i get back.11:47
roniezor when i land.11:48
roniezneed to get moving in a bit. to the plane.11:48
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intelikeyJucato no you just get the network questions cause you are the networking expert...11:48
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roniezits annoying me so much.11:48
ronieztrying to mount the sd card and i cant find it.11:48
roniezeven modprobed all of the info i can find.11:49
ronieztime to find some place to get some lunch.11:49
roniezttyl boys and girls11:49
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intelikeyroniez well when you find the driver it will be so simple...11:49
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intelikeyroniez ls -l /dev  | grep '10,' | grep 311:51
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eeosis there any alternative to XVIDCAP on kubuntu (possibly kde based)? or any other way to capture X-Window display?11:53
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gnomefreakeeos: istanbul (it might be gtk though)11:55
eeosgnomefreak thanks!11:57
gnomefreakyw11:57
eeosgnomefreak I would prefer it to intergrate with kde, but really i need to solve the problem11:58
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intelikeywould someone                                               grep 'bin/lspci' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list                                                           please11:59
eeoseeos@ubuntu:~$ grep 'bin/lspci' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list11:59
eeos/var/lib/dpkg/info/pciutils.list:/usr/bin/lspci11:59
eeos/var/lib/dpkg/info/pciutils.list:/bin/lspci11:59
eeoseeos@ubuntu:~$11:59
intelikeyty11:59
eeoshere it is intelikey11:59
Jucatosame results11:59
Jucatohere11:59
intelikeytanks guys12:00
eeosgnomefreak ach! it does install the entire gnome desktop!12:00
eeosgnomefreak is there any kde based alternative to capture X-Window display?12:00
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intelikeydoes anyone have thoughts as to what kind of code, or where linux would be leaving code, that would be causing windows lock up at boot time ?     note that it only does it if i reboot from linux.   it doesn't on a cold start or a reboot from windows.    and it's consistant.12:10
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ThehoundI hope somebody is here that can help12:11
ThehoundI selected the Radeon drivers in Kubuntu12:11
intelikeydoesn't look like it.12:11
Thehoundnow it refuses to boot12:11
ThehoundI'm in windows12:11
ThehoundLinux not booting12:11
Thehoundhow can I deselect those drivers?12:12
intelikey"<Thehound> now it refuses to boot" i doubt that.   probably more like xorg not starting.12:12
Thehoundit gets to full bar12:12
Thehoundscreen scrambles then freezes12:12
Thehoundsoon as it's about to change display mode12:13
intelikeyyeah.   frame buffering going nuts.     boot to single and    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:13
Thehoundsingle?12:13
intelikeyyep single user mode12:13
Thehoundhow? I can't get to login12:14
intelikeyrescue or failsafe might be the name in the boot menu12:14
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eeosThehound restart in failsafe12:14
intelikeyyou select it at boot time.12:14
eeosThehound uninstall the radeon driver12:14
Thehoundrecovery mode? all that does is keep prompting me for my pass when I choose exit12:14
eeosThehound install the fglr driver12:14
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Thehoundmight be the driver again12:14
eMaXhi all12:14
ThehoundI'll try12:14
eMaXwhere does firefox store java applets he has downloaded?12:14
Thehoundonce I can get in12:15
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eeosThehound switch off and restart, then follow my instructions, I had the same problem12:15
[StingRay] Hi all. Anybody here running a conroe or xeon processor?12:15
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intelikeydoes anyone have thoughts as to what kind of code, or where linux would be leaving code, that would be causing windows lock up at boot time ?     note that it only does it if i reboot from linux.   it doesn't on a cold start or a reboot from windows.    and it's consistant about it.     somebody that knows something about this ?12:17
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intelikeyjust a fix would be nice12:17
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franxhi there. i disables "nv" and now when i load my kubuntu i get this nvidia error :FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory12:22
franxanyone know how to fix this?12:22
gnomefreakeeos: i thought it was gtk :) but no not for kde im not sure. i would search in adept or terminal for one12:22
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franxhi there. i disables "nv" and now when i load my kubuntu i get this nvidia error :FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory12:26
franxoops12:26
franxsorry for the double paste12:26
franxwas an accident12:26
franxmeant for #nvidia =P12:26
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apokryphosfranx: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic12:27
franxcool ta12:27
Jucato!nvidia12:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:27
aspedia!backports12:27
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports12:27
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franxhmmm12:36
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franxshould i have this in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common "DISABLED_MODULES="nv""12:38
franxsome places say yes others no. i know it fails with it in12:38
franxbut succeeds if i leave it "" blank12:38
intelikeyfranx are you not happy with the driver ?12:40
aspediaI want to update mysql server from 5.0.22 to mysql-server 5.0.27. What is the best way to do it?12:41
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intelikey!mysql-server12:42
ubotumysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.24a-9 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB12:42
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intelikey!mysql-server feisty12:42
ubotumysql-server: mysql database server (meta package depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.32-2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 80 kB12:42
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intelikeydon't know .12:42
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kub25hi ppls12:43
franxno im happy with it. im just confused why when i followed the instructions on the ubuntu website i didnt end up with a nvidia.ko file12:44
franxjust wondering if anyone else ended up with one using apt-get to install nvidia drivers12:44
franxheck it might be just fine to leave the restricted file with no disabling of 'nv'12:44
kub25Someone know how to install ATI drivers, i've downloaded it, its .run file, how to instal it?12:44
franxim just trying to get some feedback thats all12:44
intelikeyi use the free "generic" nv so i couldn't tell ya12:45
intelikeykub25 sh file.run12:45
kub25i also have .rpm pakage how to install it?12:46
intelikeydont12:46
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intelikeywhat is the package ?12:46
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intelikeykub25 ?12:47
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kub25can i install driver x86_64 on x64 machine?12:48
kub25i mean12:48
intelikeyyes12:48
kub25ok12:48
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intelikeybut you need to be running the 64bit system12:48
aspediahow can I search and install in / via backports using apt?12:48
intelikeyyou use the driver for the OS12:49
intelikeyaspedia if backports is enabled in the /etc/apt/sources.list     sudo apt-get install packagename12:49
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intelikeyapt will automatically select the latest version.12:50
kub25ok, i've installed the ATI driver, now do i need to configure it?12:50
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intelikey!ati | kub2512:50
ubotukub25: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:50
aspediaokay then I will have backports software? there is no need to define apt to use packports?12:50
kub25i've installed it12:50
intelikeythen why are you asking ?12:51
aspediasomething like apt-cache search backports mysql ?12:51
intelikeyaspedia apt will automatically select the latest version it can find in ALL the enabled repos.12:52
kub25becouse i think i need to configure it, nvm i'm now reading the website that botu gived me, i think i have to do alot of things..12:52
intelikeyaspedia you may need to sudo apt-get update    to update apts package database before you install12:52
intelikey!ati | kub2512:53
ubotukub25: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:53
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aspediaah, okay. so mysql 5.0.22 is the latest version I can install via apt?12:53
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aspediabut I need mysql 5.0.2712:54
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intelikeyif that's what it found then yes.12:54
aspediaI have to uninstall mysql 5.022 and compile 5.0.27 from source?12:54
kub25ubotu i'm reading it, i am trying now to configure my driver12:54
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intelikeyaspedia if you have to have it you have to have it.    install build-essential and get the source code and build it12:55
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intelikeyaspedia you did notice that later versions are out  5.0.32-2 is in (feisty)12:57
aspediaour developers are wanting 5.0.2712:58
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intelikeycould it be that my ram is not getting flushed on reboot ?   just trash in the ram causing a "protection fault" ?01:03
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eeosgnomefreak nothing, istanbul does not even want to start on kubuntu01:14
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gnomefreakeeos: should run on kde as long as you isntalled the gtk libs that istanbul depends on01:17
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eeosgnomefreak I installed all the gtk libs, but still get the error ImportError: No module named gconf01:18
gnomefreakhmmmm01:18
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gnomefreakeeos: not sure than sorry01:19
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intelikeyand gconf is installed ?01:22
intelikey!gconf201:23
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gnomefreakintelikey: istanbul doesnt depend on it01:24
gnomefreak:(01:25
eeosgnomefreak got it! I was missing the python <-> gconf bindings01:25
gnomefreakeeos: can you give me the exact names01:25
eeosgnomefreak that is bad, because the apt-get should know istanbul depends on them and load them01:25
gnomefreakeeos: its not listed as a depend thats why i need the exact name of what you needed to install01:26
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eeosgnomefreak yes I know, but give me time! :P here it is  python-gconf 2.16.0 - 0ubuntu601:26
gnomefreakedgy?01:27
intelikey!python-gconf01:27
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intelikeyyep01:27
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eeosgnomefreak kubuntu 6.1001:27
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gnomefreakty01:27
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kub25Some help.. How to change my Desctop rezolution??01:28
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intelikeyctrl+alt++01:28
intelikeyctrl+alt+-01:28
intelikeybut that may not be what you want.01:29
eeosgnomefreak the other bug in the repositoy is that xdvicap is not in it :P even if a perfectly working package is available on sourceforge01:29
gnomefreakeeos: xvidcap?01:30
gnomefreakthats not a bug01:30
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gnomefreakeeos: add a comment to htis bug saying that it is like this for you also please https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/istanbul/+bug/8111401:32
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eeosgnomefreak I know it is not a bug, I was teasing. But it should really be in the repository because the developers have aprepared a deb working ackage with the right dependencies.01:34
soerenweather01:35
gnomefreakchilly and foggy01:35
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eeoshow do you restart the sound server on kubuntu killin all application which are using it? my sound server is stuck!01:36
Jucatokillall artsd01:36
Jucatothen run artsd again01:37
Jucatoor...01:37
Jucatohm...01:37
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=== Jucato forgot if there's a GUI option for that
Tm_Tdcop artsd default restart?01:37
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intelikeygnomefreak  http://pastebin.ca/32560301:38
Tm_TI don't know what are dcop calls to it, don't use it at all.01:38
JucatoTm_T: there's no dcop for arts01:38
Tm_TDamned.01:38
Tm_TOh well, can't always know everything. ;)01:38
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intelikeyJucato there is a gui for that   kmenu system sound   i think01:38
gnomefreakintelikey: dapper?01:38
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intelikeyyes01:39
JucatoTm_T: oh it has... I just don't have arts installed01:39
gnomefreakthats why01:39
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intelikeygnomefreak it's the istanbul bug confirmed in dapper01:39
Tm_TJucato: =)01:39
eeoscall to artsd failed01:39
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Tm_Teeos: Then just kill it.01:39
intelikeygnomefreak look at the list  and the fact that nothing "gconf" is installed01:40
gnomefreakintelikey: edgy lost most of those depends01:40
Thehoundnow I get as far as login screen01:40
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eeosTm_T nothing cannot even kill it01:40
Thehoundthen when I try to login it flashes back01:40
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gnomefreakintelikey: yours wants to install it edgy  and feisty dont01:40
intelikeypython-gconf is not in the list01:40
eeosTm_T it flashes back01:40
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Jucatoeeos: did you try "killall artsd" or killing it in ksysguard?01:40
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eeosJucato tried even killall artsd01:40
intelikeygnomefreak python-gconf is not in the list01:40
Thehounddoes this OS support an x1950PRO?01:40
gnomefreakintelikey: gconf is01:40
daniele_where i can find unrar?01:41
Thehoundor am I just wasting time?01:41
eeosJucato the blooming thing is repeating the same sound line (1 sec) forever01:41
intelikeyyes but you may already have it installed   i didn't01:41
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gnomefreakintelikey: if you install it it should run fine on dapper01:41
=== gnomefreak dont have it installed
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gnomefreakapt-cache show istanbul will show you the depends01:41
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Thehoundam I going to have to format?01:42
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ThehoundI still can't login01:42
eeosnothing, cannot stop this sound01:42
intelikeyeeos do     dpkg -l | grep gconf      and see if anything besides the python on shows01:42
intelikeyone01:42
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intelikeyThehound can you boot the live CD ?01:43
ThehoundI don't know01:43
eeosii  gconf                                      1.0.9-7.1                            GNOME configuration database system. (daemon01:43
eeosii  gconf2                                     2.16.0-0ubuntu1                      GNOME configuration database system (support01:43
eeosii  gconf2-common                              2.16.0-0ubuntu1                      GNOME configuration database system (common01:43
eeosii  libgconf11                                 1.0.9-7.1                            GNOME configuration database system librarie01:43
eeosii  libgconf2-4                                2.16.0-0ubuntu1                      GNOME configuration database system (shared01:43
eeosii  libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0                    0.8.12-4ubuntu1                      GConf support for GStreamer01:43
eeosii  python-gconf                               2.16.0-0ubuntu6                      Python bindings for GConf201:43
eeoseeos@ubuntu:~$01:43
Thehoundscreen flashes when I login on my install and I get the login screen back01:43
gnomefreakintelikey: here are the depends for it http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/index.php01:43
gnomefreakeeos: use pastebin please01:43
intelikeyok you had gconf installed and it still didn't work.01:44
geniignomefreak Thx01:44
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Jucato!pastebin | eeos01:44
ubotueeos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:44
eeosgnomefreak sorry, I am trying to sort the server audio, it s drivig me mad!01:44
eeosJucato sorry!01:44
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eeosJucato gnomefreak this noise is awul! I reboot! brb!01:44
Thehoundso what do I want to do with live cd? it doesn't allow me to change from an eye bleeding 60 hz01:44
Thehoundthat's why I tried these drivers in the first place01:45
intelikeygnomefreak is that a joke ?01:45
intelikeyhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/index.php <<<01:45
gnomefreakno joke at all01:46
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/32560601:46
intelikeyso it's depends are  ""01:46
gnomefreaksorry wrong window :(01:46
Thehoundso where do I go from here?01:46
ThehoundI want my machine to boot01:46
Thehoundnow it actually boots but won't login01:47
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geniiSomeone just gave me this floppy disk to smartmedia adapter. anyone know if there is support for this thing? Fujifilm FD-01:47
geniiFD-A2 even01:47
ThehoundI need to get that machine up01:48
Thehoundsomehow01:48
Thehoundso frustrating01:48
Thehoundhow do I reset everything to default01:49
Thehoundwhatever that is01:49
Thehoundso I can at least login again01:49
intelikeygnomefreak http://pastebin.ca/325614   dapper.01:50
Thehoundthis is going nowhere. I'll have to tell my admins it'll take me a bit to recover my data01:50
intelikeystill no python-gconf01:50
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eeoshi there!01:51
gnomefreakintelikey: on dapper?01:51
intelikeyyes dapper.01:51
Thehoundso how do I get my machine to boot again?01:51
eeosThehound do you still have the problems with the drivers?01:52
gnomefreakintelikey: seems to have changed alot. not sure why its grabbing it for you but it doesnt on edgy or feisty01:52
Thehoundyes!01:52
Thehoundeven after the lines01:52
Thehoundnow I get to the login screen01:52
eeosThehound good01:52
Thehoundbut when I login, it goes back to login01:52
Thehoundafter some flashes01:53
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Thehoundso I still can't get into linux01:53
gnomefreakintelikey: one of your depnds depends on it im sure01:53
gnomefreakwhere ours doesnt01:53
eeosThehound do you have important data in your kde installtion or is a fresh install?01:53
Thehoundreplacable data01:54
Thehoundbut the initial install would let me change screen res01:54
Thehoundwhat supports an x195001:54
Thehoundstarting to hate my card01:54
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Thehoundwould not*01:54
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eeosThehound what on earth is x1950?01:54
ThehoundATI Radeon x1950PRO XGE01:55
Thehoundthe driver you suggested got me stuck at 640x480 60 hz01:55
eeosThehound what version of drivers do you have?01:55
Thehoundor someone01:55
Thehoundtried off the repository01:56
Thehoundthe fsgl or something01:56
Thehoundwhat was suggested here01:56
geniifglrx01:56
eeosThehound go here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html01:56
Thehoundyes that's it01:56
Thehoundnow those have me locked out01:56
Thehoundright now01:56
eeosThehound which "those"?01:56
Thehoundfglrx01:56
geniiThehound You can always try a safe driver to at least get to the desktop egain. vesa for instance01:57
Thehoundwas going to try those that you just linked01:57
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Thehoundbut I can't login01:57
eeosThehound  go here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html and dowload ATI binaries01:57
eeosThehound your card seems to be a very last generation01:57
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geniiThehound This can be done from a console login. the login manager should have this option actually01:58
Thehoundhow would I download them to my nix install?01:58
ThehoundI have the installer package01:59
eeosThehound sudo rm -fR /home/username/.kde could help but only if you have a backup of the kde configuration.01:59
Thehoundbut at 640x480 I can't see the bottom01:59
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eeosThehound login in a text console01:59
soulriderhey everyone, im trying ot do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it sais "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"01:59
Thehoundbut won't I need to download the drivers?01:59
Thehoundbefore running them02:00
geniiThehound The vesa driver is installed by default, so it is already there. What you would need to do is login to a console. then use a command line editor to change the line in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf which reads fglrx  to read vesa instead.02:00
Thehoundand how do I use .rpm02:00
soulriderThehound: rpm is a nono02:00
geniiNot a good idea to use rpm format, it is not the native package format02:00
soulriderbut you can use Alien to make it into a deb02:00
geniiymmv with rpms02:00
Thehoundthe link he just gave is .rpm02:00
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Thehoundoh boy need to remember these lines between boots02:01
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soulrider!adeptfix02:03
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:03
eeosThehound yes you need to download them unless you have already downloaded them.02:04
eeosgnomefreak I added my comment to you bug report02:05
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geniiThehound At any rate, the simplest way without a complete reinstall and so on is as I said. Just login to a console session with your usual name/password. Then if yu have an editor such as nano for instance, run it as root with   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     then look for where it has the offending driver name and change it to the safe one of vesa instead. Save and exit. Then run sudo...02:07
genii...dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and you should be able to log in after to the desktop again.02:07
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geniiBleh chatzilla not showing he left already LOL02:08
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eeosgenii are you sure? if the problem are the drivers as he sais how would that solve it? he would only be able to use it in vesa mode.02:10
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geniieeos Since he cannot even get into his desktop at the moment, to change it from there becomes much easier when you can get into it first02:10
eeosgenii i understood he could get into text console mode. genii have you tried compiling the new 8.32.5 drivers from ati?02:11
geniieeos As I understand there is no compiling of ATI drivers, since they only supply binary files02:12
eeosgenii yes, I meant packaging sorry, trying to do two thing at once. :P02:12
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geniiWell, the link ubotu gives normally works for most people to install the binaries02:13
genii!ati02:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:13
geniieg ^02:13
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geniiMy old AIW 8500DV  installed without incident this way02:14
eeosgenii thanks I knew that. The point is we are experiencing serious and serial problems with kubuntu 6.10 or laptops, which could be connected to graphic drivers (=most likely)02:15
geniiYes, there is some acpi issue which may also affect some video cards, as I undersatnd it02:16
eeosgenii do you think we should have the acpi installed?02:20
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geniieeos Well, for laptops it makes some sense to have power saving of some sort. For most desktop systems i'd say no however02:22
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eeosgenii we only have acpi package installed02:23
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karmikazeis there any other x font viewer apart from xfontsel??02:24
karmikazexfontsel doesnt even have 1/3 of the fonts on my system02:24
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frojndwhy cant I eject cd?02:31
karmikazeis it still mounted?02:31
frojndI cant by clicking on cd and eject02:31
frojnddont know02:31
frojndlooks like device is busy or something02:32
Jucatofrojnd: right-click on the cd icon in Storage Media?02:32
frojndyes?02:32
Jucatoselect Eject?02:32
frojndbut there is no "eject" on the right click02:32
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Jucato?02:33
Jucatohm...02:33
Jucatook, in Konqueror type in the location bar: media:/02:33
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frojndif I do that I see the title of cd02:34
Jucatofrojnd: right-click on the CD icon and try ejecting again02:34
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frojndthere isnt any eject02:35
frojndbut its mounted..02:35
frojnd.as far as It says02:35
Jucatohuh? still no eject option?02:35
frojndaha02:35
frojndI found eject02:35
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frojndbut nothing happened02:35
frojnd:S02:35
Jucatohm...02:35
Jucatosomething must still be using the CD in the background02:35
frojndyep..02:36
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frojndI would kill those process if Id knew how02:36
Jucatotry closing all Konqueror windows/processes02:36
frojndand than in the desktop eject ?02:36
Jucatoif you can still see the icon on the desktop02:38
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renatoHi I could use some help with ddclient used behind an adsl modem/router, anybody can lend me a helping hand?02:40
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kub25Somone know how to install Cyrylic Keyboard??02:40
renatoI believe the modem's NAT service is messing things up for me02:41
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geniiTry to portforward 5302:42
renatokub25: I am already connected, my problem is to use a dynamic DNS for faking a "static" IP when I do not have one02:42
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ubuntuHello all , can someon pease help me with a kubuntu install?02:43
kub25yes yes :)02:43
ubuntutalking to me?02:43
ubuntukub?02:43
kub25yes02:43
ubuntuok02:43
ubuntuhere is my deal02:43
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kub25i'm listning:)02:44
ubuntuI am trying to insall using the latest kubuntu release02:44
kub256.10?02:44
ubuntubut my install stalls at the point when it trys to read the "mirror"02:44
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kub25hahaha02:45
kub25me too02:45
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kub25i haved the same problem02:45
kub25and it stuck on 2%02:45
ubuntu*grins*02:45
geniispecify a different mirror02:45
kub25all you have to do is to wait :)02:45
ubuntuu cant02:45
ubuntuthere is only one mirros02:46
ubuntuit seems to be hardcoded into the cd02:46
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kub25ubuntu u have only to wait, its alot of time, but it will work:)02:46
geniiNormally it should try and put one that is regional02:46
ubuntuI have tried to look for a sources.list file on the target but found none02:46
geniiSo if for instance you live somewhere not in US but just hit enter for all the defaults etc it will be retrieving from a repo pretty far off02:47
kub25ubuntu i've installed my Kubuntu around 4 hours, exactly for this mirror02:47
ubuntuhmmmm interesting02:47
ubuntui see02:47
ubuntumaybe it would work but I dont understand why I cant just manually choose a mirror02:48
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kub25i don't know02:48
geniiNormally you can by interrupting it then going back a step or 2 to specify02:48
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ubuntutried that02:48
kub25i alredy tried all thngs:)02:49
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kub25and finaly just i've watched TV around 4 hours and when i back Kubuntu 6.10 was installed (^_^)02:50
slyfoxANyone here uses Kweather?02:50
ubuntuI guess I could just do a server install and then install the kubuntu-desktop pkg?02:50
slyfoxI always get an error with Kweather - station not found ?02:50
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ubuntuapparently u can choose mirrors when use the server version > http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu610-edgy-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html02:50
geniiNormally what I'm doing is the 6.06 server lamp install which is text. If it fails on the repo it lets you go back and specify which url. then after I do something like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  or xubuntu-desktop02:51
kub25ubuntu can i upgrate programs and install pkgs for server??02:51
ubuntuactually i lies02:52
ubuntu8lied02:52
ubuntu*lied02:52
kub25what?02:52
ubuntuit doenst let u choose02:52
renatoanybody has any experience with ddclient?02:52
kub25i already know that :))02:52
ubuntuthe server install also uses its own mirror02:52
geniiThe server install for me wants to pick this slow archive for me so i unplug the network cord which kills it. Then I can go back on the menu system to specify an archive02:54
ubuntureally?02:54
ubuntuI tried to do that with the kubuntu cd but didnt work02:55
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ubuntureally want a work around that i can use with the kubuntu cd02:55
geniiI am always changing the url from ca.archive.ubuntu.com   to debian.yorku.ca02:55
ubuntucan u do this with teh kubuntu cd?02:55
ubuntuhmmm what If I install without a network cable plugged in?02:56
geniiIt needs to see the network unless you want to manually specify it02:56
slyfoxWhat is the difference between Request Uninstall and Request Purging ?02:56
geniipurging cleans out all the configuration files also02:57
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ubuntukub25: u in china?02:58
kub25lol02:58
kub25no02:58
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kub25Why u r asking??02:58
slyfoxSO no one here uses Kweather ?02:58
ubuntucuz u said u had the same prob02:58
kub25well i'm Bulgarian (^_^)02:59
kub25i've installed Kubuntu from DVD02:59
kub25and my network was unpluged02:59
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kub25becouse i use VPN to connect the network:)02:59
geniislyfox I prefer the forecastfox enhanced extension for firefox03:00
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visik7kub25: what kindoftunnel ?03:00
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slyfoxgenii: Yeah, I think I'll get that one instead. But it is a shame that Kweather is not working in Kubuntu - just in geenral03:01
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animimotusHi. Someone know how to sort lines in a file.txt alphabeticaly ? with kate is it possible ?03:01
kub25VPN dunno what tunnel i have  script, it was wroted from my friend03:01
kub25vpn use router03:01
kub25my vpn uses router IP to connect, username, password... and i am connected03:02
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geniislyfox Yes, I agree03:02
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geniislyfox Perhaps this will help:  http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15457/kweather-unknown-station.html03:07
slyfoxgenii: Cool. Thank you.03:09
genii:) Hope it works03:09
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kub25ganii where r u from?03:10
geniikub25: I'm in Toronto, Canada03:10
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geniiWell, time to start commute to work LOL ... have fun03:17
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jason__hi everyone03:22
kub25Somone can tell me an Good working Http server (Kubuntu 6.10)03:22
jason__do i want my primary group to be: admin?03:22
jason__trying to est up accounts for my kids.   i want them to be able to do nothing basically :P03:23
Jucatojason__: just make a separate account for them and don't include them in the admin group03:24
Daisuke_Idothen i'm going to go out on a limb here and say you don't want them in admin03:24
jhutchins:sudo03:24
jhutchins!sudo03:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:24
jhutchinsjason__: That doc explains how to add sudo permissions, which you don't want to do.03:24
Jucato??03:25
jhutchinsjason__: You don't want your primary group to be admin, but you do want to be a member.03:25
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jhutchinsYou don't want regular users (your kids) to be members of admin.03:25
Jucatothe primary/first account is automatically a member of admin. any subsequent accounts made don't have any defualt groups03:25
kub25Somone can tell me an Good working Http server (Kubuntu 6.10)03:25
Jucatokub25: what do you mean?03:26
kub25i have website (php files) i need web server03:27
kub25http server on port 8003:27
kub25..03:27
Jucatoah.. beyond my knowledge...03:27
Jucatoapache seems to be a favorite choice03:27
jhutchinskub25: You'll find the most documentation and support for apache.03:27
kub25i tryed it but don't wan to start:(03:27
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jhutchinskub25: What error does it give you?03:27
kub25when i type apache in "run command" the apache don't appear03:27
KennethPkub25: Fire up adept and enter web server and pick your choice03:27
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KennethPkub25: omitting the space between web and server gives you even better choices...03:33
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kub25ok i've installed aolserver403:33
kub25but how to start it??03:33
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jlha03:33
jhutchinskub25: Perhaps you would do well to read up on running a web server before you launch one on the net.03:33
jhutchinsIt's not just point and click.03:33
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kub25what i have to read ?03:33
kub25i've readed the info in Adept manager...03:33
JucatoO.o03:33
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kub25i need to run it but don't know how :(03:33
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soulriderhi eveyrone :)03:36
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jhutchinskub25: Start with http://tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/WWW-HOWTO/WWW-HOWTO-6.html , then read the manuals at http://apache.org03:38
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GimmySalve03:56
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Gimmyhelp me> i want to install xgl on kubuntu03:59
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duzzoloany italian?04:04
duzzolofor help04:04
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Emil7156hello04:12
Forgefrom inside konqueror is there any way to execute a root command?04:13
Forgelike copying a file?04:13
Forge(if you didn' tuse kdesu to start it)04:13
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Emil7156I need help to connect to my wlan connection04:13
Emil7156I find the wlan network but get connection failed all the time04:13
ForgeI need to copy the firefox script for seamonkey04:13
Emil7156in the walan assistant manager04:13
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Forgeerm link actualy04:14
Forge(symbolic or whatever)04:14
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php-freakhey guys how do i get my ip information through the shell / terminal I forgot04:14
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chavophp-freak, ifconfig04:14
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Emil7156someone?04:17
Emil7156can I get an errormessage or something when I try to connect to my wlan, right now it just says "Connection failed"04:17
Emil7156but not what's wrong04:17
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VSpikeI did "kdesu kate /etc/xinetd.conf" from a shell, and kate crashed and my panel disappeared too.  How can I get it back?04:20
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chavoVSpike, hit alt-F2 and run kicker from there04:23
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VSpikeAhh kicker.. thanks, that was the piece of info I needed.  I was thinking "kpanel" for some reason04:24
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VSpikechavo: much better.. thanks!04:24
chavonp04:24
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Materhi, do any of you know about a mp3 to mp4 converter for kde?04:34
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renatoanybody know how to "expose" to the internet a computer behind an adsl modem/router/nat?04:36
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Forgewow zsnes is even better under linux!04:37
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Forgeor at least feels it04:38
ravermeisterhello, i have updatet from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5 and now when i try to login in, nothing happens until i restart x and login with username and password again04:38
ravermeisterim using kubuntu dapper04:38
ravermeisteranybody an idea about this problem?04:38
ravermeisteri asked in the kde irc chat04:39
ravermeisterand they told me i should ask here..,.04:39
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namaiHi guys. I am newb. Could you help me? :)04:43
kkosmohow04:43
kkosmomaybe we can04:43
namaiHow to automaticaly start DSL connection on boot up?04:43
kkosmogo to kcontrol04:43
kkosmosoorry04:44
kkosmoto konqueror04:44
kkosmogo to folder04:44
namaiyes...04:44
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kkosmo/home/yourusername/.kde/Autostart04:44
kkosmoand put in there you script04:44
kkosmoand it up automaticly04:44
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namaiWhere is that script?04:45
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Jucatokkosmo: ???04:45
kkosmo?04:45
kkosmoyes04:45
Jucatonamai: is it PPPoE DLS?04:45
JucatoDSL*04:45
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namaiYes...04:46
kkosmoooo you dont have script04:46
kkosmoooo04:46
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CamileDoes pon dsl-provider command is ok?>04:46
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CamileIs*04:46
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Jucatonamai: run "sudo pppoeconf" in Konsole, follow the setup, then you'll be asked if you want to start connect at boot04:47
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CamileYes04:47
CamileI did that once04:47
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duzzolohelp04:50
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Ayabarais there a prebuilt version of krusader 1.8 somewhere out there?04:57
ryyHi, I am new to linux and to it seems as though it takes longer to load web pages in linux than in windows.  Firefox displays loading <url> for a significant amount of time on the bottom left corner.  Then it displays loading <outside/advertisment url>.  And then it displays the pages.  Why does it take so long to look up pages. Is this normal?04:57
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Tm_Tryy: Firefox can be bit slow, but my experience is that there's no significant speed differences between OS's.04:59
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Camile_How to turn on autimaticaly on boot up?05:00
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Camile_Last time it didint work,05:00
ryyDo notice a delay when it says looking up such and such page?05:00
Ayabaraanyone using krusader, or should I just change my habits? ;-)05:00
ryyHowever once a webpage is opened it does not take a long time to get to another page of the same domain.05:01
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Camile_I'm tired of using sudo pppoecont..:/05:01
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firecrotchryy... I would blame that on your ISP05:01
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MinceRhi05:01
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MinceRkmail moves mail from the maildir to its own inbox (and it should just leave them there); kde folks say i should ask about it here.05:02
jhutchinsryy: It sounds like you might have a DNS problem.05:02
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jhutchinskde people always blame the distro.05:03
ryyHow can I find out?05:03
MinceRi know05:03
MinceRjust checking. :>05:03
guglielfhi, i need a usenet reader, any advice?05:03
jhutchinsryy: dns benchmarking is difficult; you can try things like host and dig, or try changing the DNS servers you point to.05:03
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Camile_Can anyone help me?/05:04
firecrotchryy: does this happen only for sites that you are going to for the very first time, or for sites you go to frequently as well?05:04
jhutchinsMinceR: You can tell kmail what kind of directory folders are in the setup.  It should respect the maildir, but it's done so less easily as it's grown.05:04
ryyWhat are host and dig? how can I change my dns server?05:04
ryyit happens to sites that I go to frequently.05:05
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MinceRthat's ugly05:05
jhutchinsryy: Host and dig are bindutils programs to query the DNS system directly.05:05
jhutchinsIn order to change which server you're using, you have to know how you're setting that.05:06
jhutchinsryy: Do you get your IP directly from your ISP via DHCP?05:06
klestahey guys, I've got a problem, Adept keep saying that everythink is installed. For example gcc. But when I type gcc in console, It says "command not found"05:06
ryyYes I get my ip via DHCP.05:06
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kub25Hey Someone please help ME, i've installed Apache 2 web server for linux, i've readed alot ubuntu stuff for installing and starting it and now, when i type my ip, it Just can't see my website, somthing more, i can't see any website, ERROR 404 page not forun,...05:08
kub25i mean05:09
kub25only the websites in my IP05:09
kub25..05:09
firecrotchkub25: Do you have any pages in your web accessible directory?05:09
kub25Yes i have05:09
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firecrotchis this your PC that you're using as a server, or is it a machine that is dedicated to being a server?05:11
kub25this is My PC, and its dedicated to be a server05:11
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firecrotchkub25: are you behind a router?05:13
kub25yes05:13
kub25VPN05:13
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jhutchinskub25: Are the pages accessible using lynx or links on the localhost?05:13
kub25but i'm trying to acces the page first from my Local IP05:13
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renatodo you guys know a ssh client program that let's me specify a proxy serer?05:13
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jhutchinskub25: Have you read the www howto at tldp.org?05:14
kub25yes05:14
renatofor linux I meant05:14
kub25and yes05:14
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kub25they are accesible05:14
kub25from localhost05:14
jhutchins kub25:  Are your files owned by an appropriate user, and do they have the correct permissions?05:14
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kub25i think yes05:14
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jhutchinsIf they are accessible via localhost, but not from other computers within the subnet, the server may not be listening on it's external IP.05:15
AyabaraI run ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 6000. Should I install anything other than the default display drivers? Could it help me with performance when playing videos?05:15
jhutchins(I am not familiar with the default settings for apache on ubuntu.)05:15
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kub25well05:16
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jhutchinsAyabara: Not being a del dealer, I don't know the specs for an Inspirion 6000.  What video chipset does it use?05:16
EruantalonAyabara: What graphics card?05:16
kub25127.0.0.1 work 192.168.214.158 (my local IP adders ) not work05:16
jhutchinskub25: even from the same PC?05:18
kub25yes05:18
jhutchinskub25: Sounds like apache is listening on localhost only then.05:18
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Eruantalontry ping 192.168.214.15805:18
kub25how to change this?05:18
Ayabarajhutchins, Eruantalon, ATI X300 I think it is called05:18
jhutchinsRead the docs and the comments for the config files about what IP to listen to.05:18
jhutchinsAyabara: the X300 should be fully supported by the native drivers.05:18
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EruantalonAyabara: Yes you would get a significant added performance but ati drivers stink.05:18
Ayabarajhutchins, Eruantalon, Radeon Mobility M300 it says05:18
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Ayabarajhutchins, Eruantalon, hm. not the same answers from you guys :-)05:18
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jhutchinsAyabara: WEll, I may be wrong.05:18
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kub25Eruantalon i've tryed PING05:18
jhutchinsI was thinking x300, which you said at first, which I believe is supported.05:18
kub25that is result 64 bytes from 192.168.214.158: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=0.024 ms05:18
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MargaRamoshola05:19
EruantalonAyabara: His is right in saying that it is supported butthe ati closeddrivers(fglrx) is to my experience not very stable and a bitch to install.05:19
pgdownanyone have trouble fastforwarding with VLC?05:19
jhutchins!ati | Ayabara05:19
ubotuAyabara: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:19
AyabaraEruantalon, does that mean that your advice is also to keep the default drivers?05:19
Eruantaloni don't know. Supposedly the drivers are more stable with newer cards... I only have an 9100...05:20
EruantalonThat didn't work at all with the closed driver05:20
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AyabaraEruantalon, jhutchins, ok. I guess I will stay with the open driver for now. thanks for the input05:22
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eeosAyabara what is your card?05:22
EruantalonAyabara: Anywars read the link that was given to you, should have good information.05:22
Ayabaraeeos, Radeon Mobility M30005:22
jhutchinsAccording to the howto, that one needs to be compiled from source.05:23
AyabaraEruantalon, reading as we speak :-)05:23
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eeosAyabara I have a mobility X700 working with fglrx driver, but they are less than good really05:23
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Ayabaraeeos, three makes a rule. I'll stick with the open ones :-)05:23
MargaRamoshola05:24
MargaRamosm podeis ayudar05:24
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eeosAyabara :(05:24
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Jucato!es | MargaRamos05:25
ubotuMargaRamos: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:25
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MinceRbye05:25
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ubuntuhihihi05:26
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Ayabaraeeos, sad that I'm sticking with open source drivers? ;-)05:27
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eeosAyabara no, sad that there is nothing working better. I had a go at the ope source ones, the best I can get was a blank screen05:28
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eeosAyabara :(:(:(:( as far as I am concerned the manufacturer should be compelled by law to produce os driver :P05:28
kub25Someone know how to run ProcessTable - KDE System Guard as root??05:29
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eeoskub25 try sudo ksysguard05:29
Eruantalonkdesu ksysguard05:29
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Ayabaraeeos, aha. I thought the fglrx was better for you. sorry :-)05:29
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pgdownuse kdesu ksysguard05:29
Ayabaraeeos, I can't get this right, can I...05:29
kub2510x eeos it work 10X!05:31
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eeoskub25 yw05:31
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eeos Ayabara X700 works only with the fglrx, but not particularly well (frozen xorg server on log off for example)05:31
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externx700 works excellently for me05:31
Eruantalonit is sad really ati really had something to gain from opensourcing their drivers as opposed to nvidia that have a lot of their magic in the drivers05:32
Ayabaraeeos, ok. I think mine works ok, and glxinfo outputs direct rendering: yes. I was just curious if I could do better :-)05:32
eeosEruantalon as far as I am concerned they should both be compelled to open source their drivers05:33
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eeosextern it depends on the hardware you have around it as well05:34
Eruantaloneeos: Well yeah. At least one of them.. Then perhaps market forces would take care of the rest05:34
eeosEruantalon indeed05:34
externmaybe05:34
jhutchinsIf anybody bothered to check for OS hardware support before buying, it might make a difference to the manufacturers.  As it is though, people buy first then complain.05:34
EruantalonAyabara: Which driver are you using now?05:34
Eruantalonjhutchins: Or they are using the computer they have had for the last 3-4 years where they didn't have a clue... :-)05:35
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eeosjhutchins as you probably know, often you cannot chose the hardware you have to get on with05:35
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AyabaraEruantalon, the default one from my install05:36
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Eruantalonthe ati one?05:36
EruantalonI forget waht is the default. As i recall there is closed ati, open ati and mesa or something?05:37
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AyabaraEruantalon, xorg.conf says "ati"05:38
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EruantalonAyabara: ok thanks05:40
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bkudriacan someone help figure out why fuse/sshfs isn't working?  I run "sshfs remotehost: ~/Media/Server/", and i get the error: "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied".  What's going on?  How can i fix this?05:43
firecrotchbkudria: I think you have to be root to do that... try "sudo sshfs remotehost: ~/Media/Server/"05:43
Ayabaraanyone know if krusader 1.8 beta1 is available in some repository?05:44
firecrotch!krusader05:44
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB05:44
firecrotchDoesn't seem to be, Ayabara, unless it's in some unofficial repo05:44
Ayabarafirecrotch, I'll just have to wait then :-)05:45
firecrotchAyabara: or build it from source :)05:45
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bkudriafirecrotch: everything i've read says i can do it as a normal user, i just have to be part of the fuse group (i am).  using sudo doesn't let me use my private key.  attempting to execute 'fusermount' gives me the same permission denied error, although the permissions seem to be fine!05:46
Ayabarafirecrotch, I tried, but I got an error on italian user manuals, and from my googling it seemed that's "the way it is"05:46
YumaHi there.05:46
firecrotchAyabara: do they have a .deb or an rpm for it?05:47
cntb\o how to back up MBR with dd from rescueshell from alternateCD ?05:47
Ayabarafirecrotch, there are RPMs for SUSE and openSUSE05:47
YumaAnyone had trouble with "frets on fire"?05:48
firecrotchAyabara: you could try using alien to turn it into a deb, then install the deb with dpkg -i05:48
YumaI doesn't start because it can't get the right resolution.05:48
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melangewhere do I get "module-assistant05:48
YumaBut I'm pretty sure I have everything of the graphic card ok.05:48
melange"05:48
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cntbany ideas guys ?05:49
cntb\o how to back up MBR with dd from rescueshell from alternateCD ?05:49
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firecrotchAyabara: Is that working out for you?05:54
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fabrizio_come si f a svuotare il file ceh contiene i processi in corso di kubuntu....05:56
fabrizio_??05:56
benjaminquesque tu raconte05:56
KennethPis it normal to have both aht0 and wifi0 running simultaneosly with the same mac-adress?05:56
benjamin? XD05:57
benjaminOo05:57
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benjamini'm french05:57
benjaminand you?05:57
fabrizio_come si f a svuotare il file ceh contiene i processi in corso di kubuntu....05:57
kristinahi, which beryl blugin is it exactly that shows me the window preview on mouse over in kicker?05:57
firecrotchKennethP: I would assume so... it's like that for me05:58
kristinaubotu: !it05:58
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:58
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KennethPfirecrotch: ok. thanks. I see a lot of info line in syslog regarding this, but this must be related to some other problem. I'll keep digging.05:58
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firecrotchKennethP: are you having some kind of problem?05:59
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KennethPfirecrotch: Yeah. I keep getting disconnected from the WLAN using KNetworkManager05:59
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pixelationis there a (kde hopefully) app to clean your souces.list fast?06:01
firecrotchKennethP: Ah, I'm not familiar with KNetworkManager at all, sorry06:01
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firecrotchpixelation: what do you mean by "clean" it?06:01
pixelationfirecrotch remove redundancy basically, maybe make it more organized for you06:03
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pixelationmines perty long.06:03
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elwario91hello06:03
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wilmanhow can i see which inkt cardridge is empty06:05
firecrotchHow many lines long is it?06:06
pixelationfirecrotch, I am happy with the new Automatix, I think it takes a look at your souces list... I mostly get made fun of for using those by all you geeks, but anywayws :-P... I'm liking Automatix over EasyUbuntu... Automatix is more friendly to KDE I think.06:06
LjLhowever,06:06
LjL!automatix06:06
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:06
elwario91does anybody know to add all sources to apt?06:06
HymnToLife!sources | elwario9106:06
pixelation!WorksForME06:06
ubotuelwario91: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:06
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:06
pixelationdangit, lol06:06
elwario91thanks06:07
elwario91another question ^^06:07
wilmanhow to watch the inkt level?06:07
pixelationfircrotch - how long is it... long enough to know there are prolly duplicates and it's very disorganized06:07
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elwario91the maxi resolution I can do is 1024*768 but my sreen is 1280*102406:07
elwario91under ubuntu it worked06:07
elwario91but noth with kubuntu06:08
HymnToLife!fixres | elwario9106:08
ubotuelwario91: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:08
LjLelwario91: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:08
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elwario91ok06:08
elwario91thanks06:08
elwario91so ;)06:08
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firecrotchpixelation: I think it's one of those jobs that you're just going to have to do manually.  I'd get rid of Automatix first though06:08
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firecrotchKennethP: thanks for mentioning KNetworkManager (never used it before now).  Much better than wlassistant06:09
pixelationok, I'll keep it mind... I really kinda Dig automatix tho... it seems to work... famous last words before it kills my sys :-P06:09
firecrotchpixelation: Yeah, it seemed to work great for me too.  Then I couldn't boot into Kubuntu at all/06:10
pixelationautomatix  did freeze last night and I was able to restore things by a hard reboot.06:10
pixelationhmmmm06:10
DHQhey guys does kopete support voice chat06:10
pixelationI have a mirror raid, so I'm not too worried about it.06:10
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KennethPfirecrotch: yw...:)06:12
firecrotchDHQ: Only for some protocols (Jabber/GoogleTalk) works IIRC06:12
DHQfirecrotch: well msn yahoo06:12
firecrotchKennethP: Makes it a lot easier for me to connect now that I only have to type in the WEP passphrase instead of the whole WEP key06:12
DHQfirecrotch: i heard skype to was supported06:12
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KennethPfirecrotch: you can get KDEWallet to remember your key also....06:13
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firecrotchKennethP: Hrm... did not know that.  But now that I've discovered KNetworkManager, it's not a problem anymore :)06:15
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KennethPfirecrotch: my bad - it's called kwalletmanager....06:16
soulriderfirecrotch: knetworkmanager is great06:16
soulriderand it mihgt be added as a default en feisty06:16
DHQwhen is the official release of feisty06:17
Tm_T!releases06:17
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:17
firecrotchDHQ: It's scheduled for 19 April 200706:18
DHQirc aint that great in kopete06:18
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DHQfirecrotch: link me to voice in kopete cauz my jabber to has no sound06:19
Cuddles_in_K1afternoon all.06:19
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ConstyXIVDoes kubuntu have any sort of font smoothing?06:19
Cuddles_in_K1after 5 days of fighting, i -finally- got ndiswrapper working.06:19
Tm_TConstyXIV: Yes, AA.06:19
firecrotchDHQ: I looked around and I actually haven't been able to find anything about voice capabilities of Kopete :\06:19
Cuddles_in_K1-but- i now have a question...06:19
ConstyXIVTm_T: how do I enable?06:19
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DHQfirecrotch: :(06:20
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ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: did you install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8?06:20
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Tm_TConstyXIV: systemsettings -> Appearance -> Fonts06:20
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Cuddles_in_K1after sitting idle for x minutes, i lose my wireless connection. the card stays active, but there's no connection. i've gone over the firewall and system logs, but neither show a dhcp release. any suggestions?06:20
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, yes, the problem was with the driver.06:21
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: are you using network-manager?06:21
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, no.06:21
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-kde06:21
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ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: works wonders06:21
soulriderCuddles_in_K1: i had that problem too06:21
soulrideri connect with pppoe06:21
soulriderand i could see my ppp0 connection, but my apps wouldnt really respond06:22
soulriderjust as if i were offline06:22
ConstyXIVnetwork-manager is the best wireless tool i have seen on any platform06:22
Cuddles_in_K1soulrider, that's exactly the problem i'm having06:22
wilmanwhat is the programm that rules the printing?06:22
ConstyXIVwilman: cupsd06:23
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Cuddles_in_K1soulrider, how did you fix it?06:23
wilmanok06:23
wilmanConstyXIV: can i open it ?06:23
ConstyXIVwilman: System Settings -> Printers06:24
wilmanok06:24
wilmanthx06:24
Cuddles_in_K1soulrider, how did you fix it?06:24
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ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: tried network-manager yet?06:24
elyon225Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...06:24
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Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, just installed. now where is it?06:25
sskhy06:25
dopewhat's your favorite live cd?06:25
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: run knetworkmanager06:25
ssksome little questions06:25
ConstyXIVdope: either ubuntu or slax06:25
dopeno knoppix?06:25
ConstyXIVdopez: not really06:26
ConstyXIVdopez: not really06:26
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HymnToLifedope, FreeSBIE :)06:26
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, it says i'm disconnected, even though i'm not06:26
ConstyXIVgorram auto-complete06:26
taliushi everyone06:26
firecrotchdope: depends what I need the live CD for...06:26
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: click it, then pick a network06:26
ssksomeoane can help me for 5 minutes?06:27
Cuddles_in_K1well, i -was- connected.06:27
ConstyXIVssk: what?06:27
firecrotchssk: what do you need help with?06:27
taliuscould someone help me 'bout using a microphone based on a ac'97 chipset?06:27
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: just connect with network-manager06:27
dopeis it true that in order to boot off a usb flash drive your mother board has to support this operation?06:27
firecrotchdope: not quite06:28
sskConstyXIV  first > i have dell inspiron - intel dual core - i want to know what distribution of ubuntu have suport for this procesor?06:28
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, trying, but it's not connecting. just sits there saying ''configuring device''06:28
firecrotchif you can boot from a floppy, then you can put GRUB on the floppy and use that to boot from the USB drive06:28
ConstyXIVssk: core2 duo or core duo?06:28
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dopeoh06:28
sskcore duo06:29
ConstyXIVssk: x8606:29
dopesome comps don't have floppies anymore06:29
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firecrotchdope: you can also use a CD06:29
dopecan i put grub on a cd06:29
dopeok kewl06:29
elyon225dope: Yeah, I took mine out a long time ago.06:29
ConstyXIVdopez: i dont think many people miss them06:29
dopei only keep my floppy because xp doesn't have my sata driver and only uses the floppy to get them i dunno06:29
soulriderCuddles_in_K1: i ahd to disable DHCT or whateve rits called06:29
elyon225ConstyXIV: I sure don't ;)06:30
firecrotchdope: this page might help you out: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/52-Dual-boot-on-external-USB-Drive-with-a-BootCD-with-Bios-not-supporting-boot-from-external-device.html06:30
dopethx :D06:30
soulriderCuddles_in_K1: i just gave myself a static IP06:30
firecrotchyw06:30
sskConstyXIV i'm not ace on linux, just home user , i want to install now, that distribuiton that i gone on ubuntu.com is ok?06:30
ConstyXIVi just keep a slax livecd06:30
Cuddles_in_K1soulrider, unfortunately, that's not an option here06:30
ConstyXIVssk: yeah06:30
soulrider:(06:30
sskConstyXIV thx06:30
ConstyXIVssk: get the desktop cd06:30
elyon225Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...06:30
soulriderCuddles_in_K1: juato had the same problem06:30
soulrideri think he fixed it06:30
soulriderbya dding DNS entries manually06:31
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, still trying, but it's not connecting. just sits there saying ''configuring device''06:31
sskConstyXIV thx for help06:31
sskby06:31
soulriderwww.opendns.org06:31
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ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: have you updated recently?06:31
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Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, this morning, why?06:31
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ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: broadcom?06:31
firecrotchHas anyone here tried out Feisty yet?06:31
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, yes. got it working at 3am.06:31
Zvezdichko[cnu] sup. can somebody tell me how to install quake2 data files via the package quake2-data?06:32
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: ive got a broadcom, and it works fine, no problem.06:32
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elyon225Zvezdichko[cnu] : sudo apt-get install quake2-data06:33
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, how nice for you. took me 5 days to fix mine.06:33
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Zvezdichko[cnu] elyon225, that's right, I did it,but this is only the installer. how does the installer for quake 2 work?06:33
Cuddles_in_K1constyxiv, running ifdown/ifup wlan0 restores my connection, but neworkmanager doesn't do anything.06:33
slyfoxIs there a good working Quick Launch Desktop Dock like in apple for Kubuntu ?06:34
ConstyXIVCuddles_in_K1: i really don't know what could be going on, ive set 2 of them up this week in 20min, and haven't seen anything like this06:34
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ConstyXIVslyfox: kxdocker06:34
elyon225Zvezdichko[cnu] : Did you already download an installer for Quake 2?06:34
slyfoxConstyXIV: I tried to install it, but every time I try to run it, I get this - Launching applicaiton and nothing happens06:34
Zvezdichko[cnu] elyon225, it seems so06:35
ConstyXIVslyfox: or kooldock06:35
elyon225Zvezdichko[cnu] : How does it SEEM like you downloaded it? lol  You either did or you didn't, right?06:35
Zvezdichko[cnu] elyon225, I did it06:35
Zvezdichko[cnu] :)06:35
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ConstyXIVslyfox: or you could just use a sane launcher like katapult06:35
elyon225Zvezdichko[cnu] : What kind of file was it?  .deb, .rpm, .tar?06:36
Zvezdichko.deb06:36
ConstyXIV:D06:36
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slyfoxConstyXIV: I wan to have a quick access to a few folders without cluttering my desktop06:36
elyon225Zvezdichko: Okay, all you need to do to install that is Right-Click and choose Install (with the package manager)06:36
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elyon225Zvezdichko: You have gnome, right?06:36
ConstyXIVslyfox: it does folders06:36
Zvezdichkoyes :)06:36
Cuddles_in_K1ok, next question...06:36
Zvezdichkowill it install quake 2 data-files06:36
Zvezdichkolike maps06:37
Cuddles_in_K1is there any way to get kopete to -not- use kwallet?06:37
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ConstyXIVslyfox: just hit (alt)+(space), start typing06:37
elyon225Zvezdichko: Probably not if it was a separate package.  Run the .deb file, then install the data files.06:37
Zvezdichkookay06:37
slyfoxConstyXIV: katpult does not launch folders06:37
slyfoxConstyXIV: oops06:37
ConstyXIVslyfox: it does here06:37
elyon225Cuddles_in_K1: Choose 'NO' when it asks to use it.  It will then ask if you want to store the password in the less secure way... just choose yes.06:38
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slyfoxConstyXIV: looks liek it does. Hmm, let me see if I can somehow launch my shared network folders via katapult06:38
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ConstyXIVslyfox: you can also put launchers for near anything on the kicker06:39
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slyfoxConstyXIV: I am a noob. Kicker is the whole thing on the bottom - where Kmenu is and virtual desktops are ?06:39
elyon225Okay, so no one knows about my sound problem.  How about Java?  I installed sun-java5-jre, but Firefox is still griping about it not being installed... any ideas?06:39
ubuntuHi, guys06:40
ConstyXIVslyfox: yup, and you can have more than one too06:40
ubuntuGRUB loader's giving error 17... how can I reinstall GRUB?06:40
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ricky_dsHi all; I installed the firestarter firewall but I don't want to login every time. I found out how to do here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firestarter-firewall-for-your-ubuntu-desktop.html (adding a line to sudoers) but for some reason it doesn't work. I don't think that having kubuntu instead of ubuntu changes something, does it?06:40
slyfoxConstyXIV: looking at Kooldock and it seems that there is no way to change its position to be o nthe top of the screen06:40
ubuntuGRUB loader's giving error 17... how can I reinstall GRUB?06:41
ConstyXIVslyfox: ive never really been a fan of the docks myself06:41
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firecrotchubuntu: using a live CD, "grub-install [device] "06:41
ubuntuI'm using Kubuntu, but the LiveCD boots straight into KDE06:42
ConstyXIVubuntulog: just go to a console06:42
elyon225ubuntu: It's supposed to :)06:42
slyfoxConstyXIV: what would you recommend to do to have quick access to folders ?06:42
ConstyXIVslyfox: either katapult or launchers on the kicker06:43
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slyfoxConstyXIV: If I;ll have it in kicker, I will clutter it so that there will be no space for taskbar ?06:43
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ConstyXIVslyfox: there's actually a "network folders" kicker applet06:43
Dr_willisTheres a lot of neat kicker applets.06:44
ConstyXIVslyfox: not too much, and you can take out stuff you don't want also06:44
slyfoxConstyXIV: How do I add just folder to kicker ?06:44
Dr_willisI perfer them to desktop widgets.06:44
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Zvezdichkoslyfox, are you the slyfox at TTLG server?06:44
ubuntuIn the Live CD, the hard-drive isn't mounted06:44
slyfoxDr_willis: no, not that I am aware of.06:44
ubuntuHow do I mount it so that I can install GRUB?06:44
ConstyXIVslyfox: just drag to the kicker06:44
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Dr_willisslyfox,  drag a folder to the kicker. it asks06:45
slyfoxDr_willis: What is a good site with all the kicker applets ?06:45
Dr_willisthers 2 ways it can show a folder06:45
Dr_williskde-look.org06:45
soulriderubuntu: the installed will install GRUB06:45
Dr_willisslyfox,  and check the repos/package manager - a lot of them are not installed by default.06:45
ubuntuSoulrider, I know... do I have to reinstall Kubuntu completely??06:45
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Dr_willisFirst applet i add is the "Settings" applet06:45
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soulriderubuntu: what happened? installed windows and your grub is gone ?06:45
ConstyXIVDr_willis: sudo apt-get install kicker-applets06:46
Dr_willisubuntu,  you may want to change your nick. :P too many simile rnicks. Heh..06:46
ubuntuNaaah... installed Kubuntu and now I'm getting GRUB Error 17 when I start the PC06:46
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chappychapNaaah... installed Kubuntu and now I'm getting GRUB Error 17 when I start the PC06:46
soulrideruhm06:46
chappychapSo I'm guessing I need to reinstall GRUB.06:46
Dr_willisSO grub is isntalled.. wonder what error 17 is06:46
slyfoxDr_willis: I need to know what they are and how they are called06:46
soulrideryea06:46
ConstyXIVUbuntuStats: did you use another distro before this?06:46
soulridergurb is installed06:46
Dr_willisthis isent windows 'reinstalling grub' proberly is not going to fix it.06:46
soulridererror 17 is no such partition right ?06:46
soulrideror is that 21 ?06:46
chappychapChrist, don't know! :)06:46
soulrideruhm06:46
soulriderwell06:46
ConstyXIVsoulrider: yup, that's 1706:46
soulrideryou can edit the grub settings06:47
soulriderok06:47
chappychapHow's that done?06:47
soulriderchappychap:06:47
Dr_willisslyfox,  kde-look.org has a lot of extra kde things.. and  as ConstyXIV  said install             sudo apt-get install kicker-applets06:47
soulriderpress alt + f206:47
soulriderand type06:47
ConstyXIVusually happens when you install windows or another distro that doesn't install grub over your grub06:47
soulrider"kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:47
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firecrotchGRUB error 17 is "filesystem not recognized"06:47
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ConstyXIVcorrection: install windows from a restore cd06:48
chappychapRunning kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst06:48
soulriderchappychap: wait, you have to mount the partition first, sorry06:48
chappychap:)06:48
chappychapNo problem, how do I mount it?06:48
soulriderchappychap: i have to do some stuff first though, but theres a guide int he wiki06:48
ConstyXIVchappychap: sudo mount /dev/hda106:48
soulrider!grub06:48
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:48
soulriderfollow that guide06:48
slyfoxDr_willis: Thank you I will look there06:48
slyfoxConstyXIV: Thank you too.06:48
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Dr_willissounds like the grub config file is confused as to what hard drives/partitions are the the one it needs to boot.06:49
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slyfoxAny idea how to make mouse buttons back and forward work in konqueror file explorer ?06:50
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leey00slt j'ai besoin d'aide donc je suis sur ordi portable et je trouve pas comment desactiver la sourie qui est en dessous du clavier si qqun pouvais m'indiquer comment faire merci06:52
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ConstyXIVleey00: go to #kubuntu-fr06:52
leey00ok thx06:52
firecrotch!fr | leey0006:52
ubotuleey00: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:52
firecrotchBah, I type too slow06:52
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Dr_willis!info yacc06:55
ubotuPackage yacc does not exist in any distro I know06:55
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ConstyXIV!info bison | Dr_willis06:56
ubotubison: A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1352 kB06:56
Dr_willisI thought that was the case. :)06:56
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ConstyXIVDr_willis: apt-cache search is your friend06:58
Dr_willisi couldent rember the name of the animal. :)06:58
Thehound666I'm really unhappy with Kubuntu on my main pc. I switched it from a VM to the actual hardware and the best I can get from a driver that don't crash it is like 3 fps on anything06:58
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Thehound666the vesa driver06:58
ConstyXIVDr_willis: you can just type "apt-cache search (stuff)" and find what youre looking for06:58
Dr_willisswitched from a vm to the actual hardware?06:58
Thehound666yes06:58
Thehound666and it's 1000x worse06:58
ConstyXIVThehound666: gfx card?06:58
Thehound666Visiontek Radeon x1950PRO06:58
Dr_willisyou just MOVED the virtual drives or somthing?06:58
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Thehound666I did a fresh install on the hardware06:58
Thehound666and wish I hadn't06:59
ConstyXIV!fglrx | Thehound66606:59
ubotuThehound666: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:59
Dr_willisso the phrase 'switched it from a VM to the actual hardware' dosetn seem to mean much :)06:59
Thehound666fglrx crashes things every time06:59
ConstyXIVoh06:59
Thehound666and it thinks my card is pci06:59
Dr_willisyou installed on a machine.. and it seems slower then the vmware installed version eh?06:59
Thehound666it's agp06:59
Thehound666yes06:59
Thehound666very much so06:59
Thehound666can't do any games on this at all07:00
Thehound666my Pentium 3 is faster07:00
Dr_willispossible some bug with that specific version card, or some other issue..07:00
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Dr_willisive had good luck with my older ati cards.07:00
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Thehound666I used that card with windows over a month07:00
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Thehound6660 crashes 0 issues07:00
Thehound666and is very fast07:01
ConstyXIVThehound666: the disadvantage to binary drivers is that we have no clue how they work, and the kernel changes way too fast for ATI to keep up07:01
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gourdinis 3.5.6 out ?07:01
ConstyXIVThehound666: you have better luck with nvidia07:01
Thehound666well maybe how to get agp detected would be a start07:01
Dr_willisthe fact you used it with windows = means nothing.07:01
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Thehound666it thinks I have pci card07:02
Dr_willishow are you determinging this pci/agp detection?07:02
ConstyXIVThehound666: have you tried just using the "ati" driver?07:02
Thehound666in xorg07:02
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Thehound666which I had to use the backup on each crash07:02
Thehound666"ati"=crash07:02
ConstyXIVoh07:02
Thehound666of xorg07:02
Dr_williswith some of the ati cards, ive seen where they either need to use ati with the 'noaccel' option. or the vesa drivers.07:03
Thehound666I can't change the display resoultion with any of them07:03
Lam_what command can i use to mount an ext partition? i normally just do: $ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb107:03
ConstyXIVive never really had the displeasure of working with 3d on linux07:03
Thehound666vesa stick me at 3 fps07:03
ConstyXIVLam_: yup07:03
Thehound666at 60 hz07:03
Dr_willisThehound666,  yes that will.07:03
Lam_ConstyXIV: thanks07:03
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Dr_willisThehound666,  to get full support for that card you need to get the fglrx drivers going.07:04
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Lord_Flashearthi07:04
ConstyXIVThehound666: is your entire desktop running at 3 fps?07:04
Thehound666ok they just don't seem supported by that card07:04
Thehound666unless I'm doing something wrong07:04
Thehound666yes07:04
Thehound666window animations=the worst07:05
Lord_Flashearti am trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on a computer which has two sata hard drives in a mirrored raid array07:05
ConstyXIVwow, that's one hell of a problem07:05
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ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: and, what's happening?07:07
Lord_Flashearti installed it on the first drive in the ubiquity installer, and now the system doesn't boot07:07
Lord_Flashearti don't really understand raid07:07
Lord_Flasheart:)07:07
Lord_Flasheart:(07:07
Dr_willisLinspire announced today that it plans to expand its CNR ("Click 'N Run") digital download and software management service to support Ubuntu (and other disrtos)   Egads....07:07
elyon225Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...07:07
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Thehound666so how do I get fglrx working without killing xorg?07:07
firecrotchLord_Flasheart: Do you really need RAID?07:07
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Dr_willisThehound666,   you may want to try the latest ati drivers from ati.. the ones in the repos are a little older.07:07
Lord_Flasheartwell, yeah, it's not my laptop, it's my friends, but he needs the reliability of the mirrored raid07:07
ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: you need to use the alt disc07:07
Thehound666I did, they seem to have no effect07:07
Dr_willisbackup your working xorg.conf - an if the worse happends.. restore it.07:07
Thehound666system still uses vesa07:07
Dr_willisyou dident edit the xorg.conf then.07:07
Dr_willisor set it to use fglrx07:07
Lord_Flasheartalternative installation disc?07:07
ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: yup07:07
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Thehound666ok all the instructions said was use aticonfig07:07
Lord_Flasheartwhen i use that will there be a raid option or something?07:07
firecrotchLord_Flasheart: Yeah... it has everything that is needed to install on a RAID system07:07
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Thehound666what do I replace in xorg?07:07
Lam_i'm using QTParted on the Edgy boot disk right now to format a hard drive. after i commit, it says successful, but the drive reports a Type of unknown. is that normal? (i formatted to ext3)07:07
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Dr_willisDriver "ati" --> Driver "fglrx"07:07
Dr_willisbasicially07:07
Dr_willisand reboot07:07
Lord_Flasheartso when i go into ubiquity on the alternative disk it automagically works it out?07:07
kkosmoLam_:07:08
kkosmoyou need07:08
ConstyXIVThehound666: ctrl-f for vesa or ati, change to fglrx07:08
kkosmoto write the information07:08
kkosmoin to the disk07:08
kkosmook07:08
Thehound666well I had one saying fglrx, 2 vesa07:08
Lord_Flasheartor do i need to select both drives or something07:08
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Dr_willisthe !ati page may have some details on other ati tips/tweaks.07:08
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John-KHello07:08
Thehound666do the vesas get replaced with ati?07:08
Lam_kkosmo: so the type will show up after i write information?07:08
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ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: yes, i think there's an option07:08
Thehound666or only 1 and the other07:08
Dr_willisThehound666,  there should only be 1 entry for that.. unless your xorg.conf is really messed up.07:08
kkosmoafter you write its show07:09
Thehound666with fglrx07:09
kkosmoso i dont know why07:09
Dr_willisno vesas at all.07:09
Thehound666default xorg had 207:09
Dr_willisMay be time to move the xorg.conf over to another name.. and reconfgure one from the start with the dpkg-reconfigure command07:09
Lord_Flasheartis that the same for the ubuntu server installation or does the default installer handle raid, because i need to install it on a server next week07:09
Dr_willisor google/check the forums for other xorg.conf files for that card07:09
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ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: yes07:09
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Thehound666people asking about that card in forums07:10
Thehound666noone getting help07:10
ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: the server disc uses the alt installer07:10
Lord_Flasheartah07:10
Lord_Flasheartawesome07:10
Lord_Flasheartthanks a lot guys07:10
Lord_Flasheartyou are legendary07:10
ConstyXIVLord_Flasheart: i think, ive never done a server install, but it would make sense (no default gui)07:10
Dr_willisblame ati. :() i do seem to recall a lot of others with issues with that card.07:10
Thehound666not sure why they are ignored, I'm sure they'd like an answer07:10
Thehound666so would I07:10
Dr_willisCould be no one knows.. and its ati'd drivers that are at fault.07:11
Lord_Flasheartalso, is there any reason to install the 32 bit version of kubuntu?07:11
Lord_Flasheartdo the flash and java thingies work in 64 bit now?07:11
Thehound666if you have a 32 bit cpu?07:11
Dr_willisLord_Flasheart,  i see no reason to use the 64bit version.. unless you know you need the benifits of 64bit.07:11
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Lord_Flashearton this system, there will be a lot of high end video work and encoding etc07:12
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Lord_Flasheartso having double the size of register would be helpful for speed?07:12
Dr_willisLord_Flasheart,  and how much ram ya got?  you sure the video tools you want to use are 64bit compat?07:12
Dr_willisCould try it and see i guess. :)07:12
Dr_willisyou are one of the few cases that may benifit.07:13
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Lord_Flasheartit's pretty useful on servers aswell?07:13
Lord_Flasheartespecially ones with loads and loads of connections07:13
Thehound666this guy got some advice but he never replied to say if it works07:13
Dr_willisnot from what ive heard... but i guess every little bit helps.07:14
Thehound666how rude07:14
Lord_Flashearthow do you do that thing where you highlight the speech for one person?07:14
Thehound666lol07:14
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Lord_Flasheartdoes this work?07:14
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Lord_Flasheartno07:14
Lord_Flasheart:)07:14
Lord_Flasheartoch well, thank you very much for the advice guys07:14
Lord_Flasheartyou are A-Mazing07:14
Dr_willisLord_Flasheart,  ya mean this?07:14
Lord_Flasheartyeah07:14
Lord_Flasheart:)07:14
Dr_willisyour irc client is doing that07:15
Lord_Flashearti am in konversation07:15
Dr_williswhenever someone says your nick07:15
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Lord_Flasheartoh, so you typed it in07:15
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Lord_FlasheartDr_willis does that work?07:15
Dr_willisI typed lo<tab>07:15
John-KI have a problem. Seems i've formated my main data partition, when trying to install kubuntu. When asked to format my partitions, i've chosen my xfs hda7 partition to format as ext2 for /boot... well, the hda7 on my current system (slackware) is the one I wanted to use. But my hda8 appared in the installer as hda7! I pressed the COMMIT button. In the mountpoint choose screen, I've choosen the newly formated partition as /boot. Then I saw i07:15
John-Kt's size: 4 Gb. Huh? quickly canceled the installer and rebooted to other system. My hda8 partition is gone. What should I do?07:15
Dr_willisthe irc clients see/complate the nick.. then  if your client sees your nick said.. it 'flags/notifies' you07:16
Lord_Flasheartlo<Lord_Flasheart>?07:16
Lord_Flasheartor is that an I07:16
Dr_willisdepends on the irc client.07:16
Lord_Flashearti or l07:16
Lord_Flasheart:)07:16
Dr_willisWHatever the persons NICK begins with. :)07:16
Dr_willistry dr<tab>07:16
Lord_Flasheartoh i see07:16
Lord_Flasheartdr<tab> blargh07:17
firecrotchJohn-K: Is this the same machine you're on now?07:17
Dr_willis<tab> = use the TAB key07:17
Dr_willis:)07:17
John-Kyes07:17
Lord_Flasheartah07:17
Lord_FlasheartDr_willis: hehe07:17
Lord_Flasheartthere we go?07:17
Dr_willisthis is getting to be Computers 101 here...07:17
Dr_willis:)07:17
Lord_Flasheartthanks a lot man07:17
Lord_Flasheartthat's essential07:17
Lord_Flasheartnow i can sort this raid out07:17
Lord_Flasheartyou are a hero07:17
Lord_Flasheartbye bye the nooo07:18
firecrotchJohn-K: First, do NOT do anything with the partition that you think is gone.  Don't mount it, don't read it, don't write to it07:18
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firecrotchJohn-K: If you can get the partition table set back exactly how it was before, you should be able to recover the data07:19
John-Khow?07:19
firecrotchJohn-K: Do you have a Live CD with Parted that you can use?07:19
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Thehound666ok what do I change this to?07:20
Thehound666 busid "PCI:3:0:0"07:20
John-Kactually, I'm running a live-cd now07:20
Thehound666I have an AGP bus07:20
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firecrotchJohn-K: Good. You'll need to use Parted to set up the partitions exactly the same as you had them.07:21
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John-Kyes, I have parted07:21
Thehound666I been struggling with this thing for 12 hours07:21
firecrotchJohn-K: Unfortunately, that's as far as my knowledge of recovering lost partitions reaches :(07:21
Thehound666how do I change that to use my agp?07:22
Thehound666this is under the gfx card07:22
Thehound666I think that to be 99.999% of the issue07:22
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firecrotchJohn-K: You'll need to make sure that you set it to not format the partition07:23
firecrotchSorry I can't be of more help, John-K07:24
John-Kok, thanks for all07:24
firecrotchyw, John-K07:25
Thehound666should this line not say agp?07:26
Lam_i found out why qtparted from the edgy boot disk wasn't doing what i wanted it to. the program doesn't run with a "kdesu" prefix07:26
Thehound666 busid "PCI:3:0:0"07:26
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Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  no i dont think it should.07:27
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Dr_willisthats the identifier for the card   on the system.  I cant recall ever seeing a line like that saying 'agp'07:28
Thehound666try again. now using a text editor in windows on xorg that handles the right characters07:29
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Dr_willisMy Nvidia AGP card has ----->    BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"07:29
Thehound666because Linux is annoying at 3 fps lol07:29
Thehound666typing lag07:29
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  cant handle booting to single user mode under linux and using the console?07:29
Dr_willisUsing editors under windows to edit linux config files can be a bad idea.07:30
Dr_willisOr install vim for windows.07:30
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Thehound666ok I changed 1 line on the net to "ati"07:30
TheGateKeeperDr_willis, you are taking my nick in vain :p07:30
Dr_willisdarn it. :P07:30
Dr_williswho put the G and H right next to eachother.07:30
Thehound666the other line with the card seems he says leave alone07:31
Thehound666on the vesa under monitor07:31
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Thehound666guy not say if it worked though07:31
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Dr_willisveas under monitor - may just be telling the system what kind of montior it has.07:31
Dr_willisHis monitor maynot be the same as yours07:32
Thehound666it isn't but he has vesa too under monitor07:32
Thehound666guy didn't tell him change that07:32
Dr_willismy  Section "Monitor"   has a whole 2 lines. :)07:32
Thehound666showed him a spot to put ati07:32
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Dr_willisyou refering to the Identifier Line under 'monitor' ?07:33
Thehound666ok hopefully I'll be running >3 fps07:33
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Dr_willisunless of course theres some bug with the ati fglrx drivers..07:34
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Dr_willisyou dont want to know the hassles these drivers were.. say 2 years ago...07:35
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Dr_willisThats the reason why everyone says 'use nvidia' - past bad experiences. ;)07:35
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soulriderim back07:35
soulriderwhats everyone up to07:35
elyon225How do I import and authentication key in KDE?07:35
soulriderwith apt-key add i think07:36
Dr_willisWatching TheHound666 fight with ati drivers. :)07:36
elyon225soulrider: Can't do it within Adept?07:36
soulrideri dont think so elyon22507:37
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soulriderfirst you need to downlaod the key and then add it07:37
elyon225soulrider: That command gave me "Invalid operation add"07:37
soulriderok07:37
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soulriderhold on a sec, ill tell yout he correct one in a sec07:37
soulrideri allways copy paste it :P07:37
elyon225:) thank you07:38
Thehound666change it to "ati" where you and the guy said, becomes unbootable. change it back to "vesa", I'm bootable again07:38
Dr_willisThehound666,   try "fglrx" yet?07:38
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Thehound666fglrx is somewhere below07:39
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Dr_willisI think ya need to paste the xorg.conf to pastebin and let some people look at it.07:39
gourdinberyl and emerald don't work after last update07:39
Dr_willisThe ideaof having a Driver "ati" line and a "Driver "fglrx" line - seems wrong.07:39
gourdin(kde 3.5.6 and libc)07:39
soulriderelyon225: its sudo apt-key add07:40
soulridertry07:40
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Dr_willislast update? lastest updates ive seen are just for some apt packages, and  a few other things.07:40
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soulridersudo apt-key add -07:40
soulriderincluding that last -07:40
soulriderif you google the missing key youll probably get a nice howto on how to add it07:40
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Dr_willisthat easysource site tells how to do it i think07:41
elyon225soulrider: Ahh... got it.  Thank you :)07:41
Dr_willis!easysource07:41
Thehound666!pastebin07:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:41
dethklokOk, I just typed;07:41
dethkloksudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media/windows07:41
dethklokAnd now there is a lock on the folder? How do I set permissions?07:41
HymnToLife!ntfs | dethklok07:41
ubotudethklok: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:41
Dr_willisdethklok,  for windows filesystems you mount them with the proper umasks to set the permissions.07:41
soulriderdethklok: sudo chmor -R +x /media/windows07:41
soulriderchmod*07:42
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HymnToLifesoulrider, that definitely won't work07:42
Dr_willissoulrider,  hmm.. i dont think that works for the ntfs/vfat things.07:42
soulrider=/ really ?07:42
Dr_willisi like the followign url..07:42
soulrider:(07:42
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume07:42
Dr_willisdetails a lot of the stuff.07:42
dethklokOk, thanks guys07:42
soulrideri also suggest reading07:42
HymnToLifeyeah, the problems are not file permissions but filesystem permisions07:42
soulrider!ntfs-3g07:42
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)07:42
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soulriderill be back later, see you everyone!07:42
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HymnToLifeand given that NTFS doesn't handle file permissions like Linux does, att the files on it have the same permissions as the whole filesytem, which cannot be changed whaen it is mounted07:43
Thehound666will someone fix pastebin?07:43
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HymnToLifeso the permissions need to be specified at mount-time for the whole filesystem07:43
dethklokUmm, I still don't have permision to open it... I guess I'll go to the link07:43
HymnToLifeTheGateKeeper, there are lots of other pastebins for you tu use07:43
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Thehound666I have js enabled07:44
Thehound666You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check07:44
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TheGateKeeperHymnToLife, ohhh another one taking my nick in vain07:44
HymnToLifesorry :p07:44
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jankovamartinkahello07:44
TheGateKeeper:-)07:44
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Dr_willisYa need to change your nick to "DaGateKeeper"07:45
Dr_willis:)07:45
TheGateKeepermaybe07:45
TheGateKeeper:p07:45
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jankovamartinka:o)07:45
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Dr_willisor _________________TheGateKeeper07:45
Thehound666sorry I can't pastebin07:45
Thehound666the error won't give up07:45
Dr_willisgoogle.com - pastebin   --> will show a dozen+ other sites to use07:45
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis, why doesn't (k)ubuntu put nopaste in the repos?07:46
Dr_willis!info nopaste07:47
ubotuPackage nopaste does not exist in any distro I know07:47
Dr_willisi would guess that no one wants to maintain it07:47
gigioneis there any drivers for canon pixma ip 1500 for kubuntu 6.10 amd64?07:47
Dr_willis!find paste07:47
ubotuFound: paste-common, python-paste, python-pastedeploy, python-pastescript07:47
Dr_willisgigione,  GOOD LUCK with that printer... - there are the comercial drivers out i think that may support it.07:47
Dr_willisgigione,  but no idea if they even have 64bit support.07:48
Thehound666ugly and the pastebin puts in the line numbers07:48
gigionethanks anyway07:48
TheGateKeepergentoo have it in their repos07:48
Thehound666not my xorg.conf07:48
Thehound666http://pastebin.com/86590007:48
TheGateKeepervery usefull07:48
Thehound666this is the unbootable xorg because of "ati"07:49
Dr_willisHmm the !paste url seems to be borked. i cant paste anythuing there either.07:49
Dr_willis!paste07:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:50
Dr_willisHmm.. worked with Opera but not firefox..07:50
MidMarkgigione: if you cannot use vendor driver try these -> http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon07:50
MidMarkfor my 4200 under 32 bit they works07:50
Thehound666anyone check the link yet?07:51
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Thehound666this is the most nightmarish install I have ever done for any hardware/os07:52
Thehound666problem don't want to budge07:52
cntbwhere in KDE can I edit frub menu.lst ?07:52
gigionecan't find libcnbj-2.507:53
dethklok!ntfs | dethklok07:53
ubotudethklok: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:53
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Dr_willisThehound666,  thts your original xorg.conf ? i dont know why it has 2 device sections.07:53
Dr_willislooks like the bottom one has just been tacked on.07:53
Thehound666yes07:54
Thehound666it had 207:54
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Thehound666xorg.conf.orig it was07:54
Thehound666among the backups07:54
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gourdinlast update broke beryl (kde 3.5.6 , libc)07:55
Thehound666so any fixes for my xorg before I snap a 200 card in half?07:55
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cntbwhere in KDE can I edit frub menu.lst ?07:55
HymnToLifegourdin, KDE 3.5.6 ?07:56
cntb*grub07:56
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Dr_willisThehound666,  i would boot a live cd and look at  its xorg.conf07:56
Dr_willisThehound666,  i also edited that file and updated it.. with some comments.07:56
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Thehound666it gets 3 fps07:56
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Dr_willisI got to go to work now.. so good look07:56
gourdinHymnToLife: tests packages07:56
Dr_willisenough with the lame whining about 3 fps. :)07:56
HymnToLifewell, don't be surprised it broke something then07:56
Dr_willisMore learning, less whining.07:56
Dr_willisbyee07:56
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gourdinHymnToLife: kde broke beryl ?07:56
Thehound666well I been dealing with it for 12 hours07:56
gourdini don't see the relation07:57
Thehound666no answers that fixed it07:57
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HymnToLifegourdin, test packages can break anything07:57
cntbwhere can07:57
cntbI edit grub thru GUI07:57
gourdinHymnToLife: if gimp broke firefox, it seems weird to me, even if I choose to install gimp-beta07:57
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=== mirela papapa :)
HymnToLifecntb, kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst07:58
paulinsterHi Alll, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now I am having some issues with my xserver ...  When booting my system I am stuck to the commande prompt. Even after I login and tried to load X by typing startx or startkde, I couldn't get to it07:58
jhutchinsI get almost 6,000 fps - as long as glxgears is minimized.07:58
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paulinsterAnyone can help with this xserver dapper-edgy upgrade issue07:59
Thehound666great I can't connect to that site now07:59
Thehound666to see his edits07:59
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Thehound666now what08:00
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Thehound666so what do I need to learn to fix this?08:02
francescohello08:02
Thehound666I need my nix up and am very tired08:02
francescohallo all the peapol hier08:02
francescopeaple08:02
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TonrenHow do I set my default browser to Firefox instead of Konqueror?08:03
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francescohowto install automatix on feisty?08:04
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shadowhywindi was wondering what is the command to check swap/ram memory from the console08:05
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dethklokWhoo, I figured it out... I guess using dapper makes it a heck of a lot easier :)08:06
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TopDawg2161st Question:  How do I disable notifications of people entering and leaving the channel?08:07
francescoshadowhywind -->> you can use the   free command    type  free08:07
DjDarkmanhy ,can someone tell me how can I set up enviorment variables?08:07
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shadowhywindthansk thats the command iw as lookin for08:07
TopDawg2162nd Question:  Is Ubuntu/Kubuntu only compatable with Firefox 1.5?08:08
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dethklok!firefox | TopDawg21608:08
ubotuTopDawg216: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:08
TopDawg216thanks :)08:09
slow-motionhallo08:10
francescoeny idea how  can i install automatix for feisty08:10
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TopDawg216any advice on the 1st question, anyone?08:11
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francesconee some codec for play mpg4 files08:11
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tidalwav1Hi, all, can anyone reccomend any apps for Kubuntu/Ubuntu that could turn a PCI wireless card into an access point, assuming the computer also has an ethernet connection?08:11
Thehound666ok tell me flat out, is all newer hardware not supported?08:11
Thehound666seems I have no issue with a 10 year computer08:12
Thehound66610 year old08:12
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Thehound666but this computer is impossible to run Kubuntu properly on08:13
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Thehound666except within VMWare08:13
kub25Hi all:D08:13
Thehound666if anyone can tell me for sure if my card is supported, that'd be nice08:13
Thehound666I been getting conflicting reports08:14
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Thehound666I can visit 2 Linux forums and 1 says yes 1 says no08:15
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Thehound666far as if my card is supported08:15
francescoThehound666 --> use this command: lspci08:16
Thehound666what's it do?08:16
Thehound666my nix is still unbootable till I reset the xorg file08:16
francescoshow you if card is supported or installed08:16
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Millowhello08:17
Thehound666in xorg it sees ati but doesn't give the model08:17
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francescohmm....08:17
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Thehound666and autoselects vesa driver if I leave it be08:17
Millowcan anyone help me sort out a little network problem08:18
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Millowlooks like my networkadapters, wlan and lan is working08:18
frojndI am HAVING problem setting up my keyboard08:18
Millowbut they don't take any IP from the router08:18
Thehound666but you can't get sites?08:18
frojndI cant find some words or letters couse I cant set up layout to slovene :S08:18
Thehound666disable ipv608:18
francescoThehound: are you talking about graphic or wireless card ?08:18
frojndin xorg there is layout setup to si08:19
Thehound666graphics08:19
frojndbut isnt working08:19
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Millowjust disable pv6, how?08:19
Millowipv608:19
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Thehound666feel like I wasted my money on this card since I was hoping to trash windows08:19
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francescois an ati or nvidia card08:20
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MillowI also can't use WPA with the WLAn Assistant that follows the system?08:20
Thehound666oh god I forget that one. my old connection objected to ipv608:20
Thehound666and I had your symptom08:20
Thehound666ati08:20
Thehound666ATI Radeon x1950PRO08:20
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dethklokdoubleu tee eff, why does firefox keep freezing!!!08:21
Thehound666came out late last year08:21
francescoyou shold use the driver from ati.com site for linux and build package for ubuntu08:21
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Thehound666it has a self installer08:21
Thehound666seems to change nothing08:21
francesconot for ubuntu08:21
Thehound666even though it says installed08:21
MillowHow do I get the wlan to work?08:21
Millowcould that be the IPv6 too?08:22
francescoubuntu dont install commercial driver08:22
MillowI find my wlan network and fix the settings for it but then I only get Connection Failed08:22
Thehound666ok the driver is in there(I think)08:22
Thehound666how do I use it?08:22
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francescothe driver?08:23
Thehound666from the ati site08:23
Thehound666it made no difference08:23
Thehound666I used the .run script and followed it08:23
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Thehound666said the driver was installed08:23
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Thehound666but my xorg still said vesa08:23
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jhutchinsI have a $35 card I bought three or four years ago, works great.  You could probably get it on eBay for $10 these days.08:24
francesco_test08:24
Hoxxinwhat can be wrong, im installing kubuntu and after the blue bar that goes back and forth the monitor goes to standby mode and nothing happens??08:24
Thehound666so what should I do? throw out a 200 card?08:24
Thehound666I don't think so08:25
jhutchinsThehound666: Sell it.08:25
francesco_:)))08:25
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Maxi`hi08:25
Thehound666I need a good card for dual boot though08:25
jhutchinsThehound666: Buy one that has explicit, stable, doccumented open source drivers.08:25
Thehound666since I play games08:25
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jhutchinsThey're out there.08:26
jhutchinsThehound666: Contribute to the driver project.08:26
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Thehound666?08:26
Millowcould anyone help me with my network problem?08:26
Millow;)08:27
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dethklokHumm, editing my myspace profile works in konquorer but not firefox? wtf08:27
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Thehound666how old do my hardware need be?08:27
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Thehound666seem a pentium 3+geforce fx 5200 work perfect08:27
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jhutchinsThehound666: Could be brand new, as long as it has support.08:27
Thehound666but I'd shoot myself using something that old all the time08:27
Thehound666I suppose a high end gamer's card has no chance?08:28
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jhutchinsI'll bet you could post a bounty for a driver.08:28
Thehound666to get community support08:28
jhutchinsThehound666: Do some research.08:29
jhutchinsFInd a card that's supported.08:29
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jhutchinsOr wait and contribute to the driver project.08:29
gabrieldainHey, i'm having a problem with compiling sources. Every package i ./configure returns this error: "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:29
gabrieldain". got any idea?08:29
Hoxxinwhy does my monitor go in standby mode during the beginning of installation? it goes to standby after the screen with the progress bar and kubuntu logo08:29
Thehound666this card is only a month old, I'd rather use Windows than buy another card within 1 month08:29
Thehound666I'm limited on cash08:30
hund_can i make a kubuntu desktop a gateway to a windows xp laptop?08:30
francesco_gabrieldain: have you install all needed c++ lib08:30
jhutchinsThehound666: Not as limited as I am if you can afford a card like that.08:30
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gabrieldainfrancesco, well, nonce of the packages mention any dependencies, so I imagine so08:31
Thehound666so driver bounty?08:31
dethklokQuick HTML question, I want the image on the background to not stay in the top left corner... I want it to move down when you scroll down the page...08:31
Thehound666I pay someone to code4 one?08:31
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francesco_gabrieldain: which package are you try to compile08:31
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Tonrendethklok: google "css image static scroll"08:32
dethklokTonren, kthx08:32
gabrieldainfrancesco_, right now its the baghira theme for KDE, but it happened with others. I can't remember what they were right now08:32
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hund_can i make a kubuntu desktop a gateway to a windows xp laptop?08:32
francesco_You need to install cpp (c preprocessor) that's why you get the /lib/cpp error08:33
Thehound666well only comparable card is 7900 GTX(actually a bit slower), for the sake of arguement, if I bought one. Would I be able to use it?08:33
gabrieldainfrancesco_, I egt a sanity check, meaning the package is there. I have checked and reinstalled cpp just in case it was a build error, but the error remains08:33
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Millowanyone good at network in kubuntu?08:34
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francesco_wish g++ version are you using?08:34
TopDawg216dethklok:  BODY {background-image:url(myimage.gif); background-attachment: fixed;}08:35
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Thehound666someone recommended a radeon 9200. I can't see myself using one of those to boot into windows and play Oblivion08:35
Thehound666lol08:35
gabrieldain4.1.208:35
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gabrieldainfrancesco_, 4.1.208:36
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francesco_please wait i check on my pc08:36
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boss_78hellp08:36
Thehound666I must say that's laughable08:37
Thehound666?08:37
boss_78do you know the graphic board called "S3 Savage4"?08:37
francesco_try --->>   sudo apt-get install build-essential08:37
melangeI just installed eclipse - however, when i try to start it I get this: http://bottiger.com/paste/FBNb5IqtSAy1ZyqnN66o08:37
melangewhat does that mean?08:37
Thehound666well my graphic board karma is bad08:37
Thehound666what seems to be the issue08:38
gabrieldainfrancesco_, doing that now08:38
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Hoxxinwhy does my monitor go in standby mode during the beginning of installation? it goes to standby after the screen with the progress bar and kubuntu logo08:38
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Martiinihey .. can anyone, please , help me troubleshoot my ati driver install .. Ive installed ati driver pack .. but glxinfo says mesa08:38
gabrieldainfrancesco_, that fixed it, thank you very much :)08:38
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francesco_gabrieldain: no problem ;)08:39
Thehound666another in the ati can't run on Kubuntu camp. Maybe we'll see a driver soon08:39
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Thehound666:)08:39
gabrieldainfrancesco_, tho I get a new error now. "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!08:39
gabrieldain". Where am I supposed to enter the paths?08:39
hund_can i make a kubuntu desktop a gateway to a windows xp laptop??08:39
gabrieldainhund_, do you mean network gateway? if so, then yes08:40
hund_yes08:40
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hund_i want the laptop to connect to the net trough the kubuntu pc08:40
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Thehound666Martiini: I've dealt with that driver pack for 12 hours with no luck. I think it's hopeless by traditional means. Maybe we'll see a modded version soon(I hope)08:40
francesco_gabrieldain:08:41
francesco_i think you have also to install these two packages:08:41
francesco_x-dev08:41
francesco_libx11-dev08:41
hund_how do i do that?08:41
Thehound666the one on ati.amd.com right?08:41
gabrieldainfrancesco_, doing that now08:41
Thehound666it only promises to work on fedora and suse08:41
gabrieldainfrancesco_, nope, same error08:42
Hoxxindoesnt anyone have a solution/idea to my problem? :'(08:42
francesco_and install kdebase-dev08:42
francesco_shold work!!08:42
TopDawg216Hoxxin:  Let me do a little research to see if I can come up with anything.  Please be patient :o)08:42
HoxxinTopDawg216 ok tnx08:43
gabrieldainfrancesco_, I hope. its 90mb of downloads, be back when its done08:43
Thehound666during install? I'd know what to do if upon boot08:43
Hoxxinim running a dvd check now08:43
Thehound666but during install..strange08:43
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Thehound666I have no idea08:43
dethklokI'm bored, whats there fun to do on linux when your bored?08:44
gabrieldaindethklok, kernel hacking ;)08:44
Hoxxindethklok lots of free games :D08:44
dethklokgabrieldain, Eh, I'd most likely break stuff08:44
gabrieldaindethklok, kidding. Games, whatever you do elsewhere08:44
dethklokHoxxin, I have all the KDEGames installed... not to impressed :-p lol08:44
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gabrieldainfrancesco_, ok, that did it, cheers ;)08:44
hattalearn things08:45
hattathere's always something to learn08:45
dethklokhatta, teach me something :-D08:45
Hoxxindethklok ye well :D08:45
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gabrieldaindethklok, optimize your system08:45
hattahttp://www.bioperl.org/Core/Latest/bptutorial.html08:45
dethklokgabrieldain, I don't know what the mean... lol08:45
Thehound666well VMWare's dead horse of ogl support is better than 3 fps08:45
Hoxxindethklok go find new themes :)08:45
hattaI've been playing with that recently08:45
gabrieldaindethklok, lets me.... a good thing to teach... mmm, emacs is evil08:45
cntbwhat is the cube rotate in beryl ? mouse plus what?08:45
Thehound666VMWare seems my best alternative08:45
TopDawg216Hoxxin:  I couldn't find anything.  SOrry :(08:45
Thehound666for now08:45
hund_how do i connect the 2 pcs then? i have all the hardware i just need to config inkubuntu08:45
dethklokgabrieldain, Lol, aren't all mac's evil?08:46
dethkloklol08:46
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HoxxinTopDawg216 ok tnx anyway08:46
gabrieldaindethklok, no, emacs, as in the editor08:46
dethklokgabrieldain, I don't read much... hehe08:46
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gabrieldaindethklok, the text editor. same as word processor08:46
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gabrieldaindeth look it up08:47
dethklokgabrieldain, oic, text editor.. not like literature editor08:47
gabrieldaindethklok, yup08:47
hund_...08:47
dethkloki use gedit... so w/e08:47
tikal26hello, I am looking for some help ocncerning konqueror in kubuntu08:47
dethklok!emacs08:47
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code08:47
gabrieldaindethklok, vim ;)08:47
dethklok!vim08:47
dethklok:(08:47
gabrieldain!code08:47
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida08:47
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dethklok!html08:48
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com08:48
hund_how do i connect the 2 pcs then? i have all the hardware i just need to config the kubuntu side08:48
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dethkloklol08:49
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HoxxinTopDawg216: could it be same prob as this? : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=51347108:50
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Theoryah, that's the one :-)08:50
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dethklokpff, he dosent even know what futurama is...08:50
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dethklokthey should rename ubotu to anna08:51
dethklok!themes08:51
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:51
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francescotest08:52
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AHinMainecould anyone help me on how to install firefox on kubuntu?  it gives me an error about breaking a package or something when I try...08:53
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AHinMaine(i just installed kubuntu 6.10 moments ago...)08:54
francescothere is alredy install firefox on kubunut? look on menu ---> internet --- firefox ?08:54
jhutchinsdethklok: You know, that's very annoying.  It fills up the scrollbuffer and effictively keeps other people from having antyhing resembling a conversation.08:54
francescoor use :  sudo apt-get install firefox08:54
AHinMainenope.  just konq.08:54
firecrotchIsn't it possible to just /msg ubotu and have it answer you privately?08:55
firecrotchI mean, if you have nothing better to do than talk to a bot :)08:55
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AHinMaine   The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libmyspell3c2 but it is not installable08:56
francescogo to --> console08:56
AHinMainealready am08:56
dethklokjhutchins, yeah for sure... thus why i stopped ;)08:56
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francescothan -->  cd /etc/apt/source.list08:56
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AHinMaineand when I try gaim, I get....  E: Package gaim has no installation candidate08:56
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francescouncomment all repository # deb.....08:57
AHinMaineincluding the backport entries?08:57
MartiiniAHinMaine: start with ubuntuguide.org08:57
francescoyes08:58
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gan|y|medhi08:58
firecrotchHi, gan|y|med08:59
gan|y|medis there any messaging programme that is capable of using webcams?08:59
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jhutchinsgan|y|med: There was gaim, but it's forked into a new project.08:59
firecrotchI think kopete has support for webcams with MSN08:59
Martiiniheh .. ubuntuguide.org start pages have been edited into russian08:59
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jhutchinsMartiini: Won't even load for me.09:00
randbhey, all done09:00
randb:)09:00
gan|y|medmsn is not really what i aspire to, but thx09:00
Thehound6661 more thing guys since I'm reverting, ntfileloader was replaced by grub, how do I make it boot xp by default?09:00
gan|y|medi have heard about that fork of gaim, because the gaim maintainer seems to refuse to insert the code into the project. but is it available for ubuntu (as deb)?09:01
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randbhow do i install proper nvidia drivers, so i can use my tv out?09:01
jhutchinsThehound666: edit menu.list and make xp the default.09:01
dethklokwhat happens if upower isnt installed on my next start up? will the pc freak out and shut down?09:01
dethklok!upower09:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upower - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:01
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jhutchinsdethklok: Try google instead of the bot./09:02
Thehound666menu.list what directory?09:02
jhutchinsThehound666: probably /boot09:02
jhutchinspossibly /boot/grub09:02
genjixany ideas why kubuntu livecd boots up to a kde session here, but on another computer I get black and white screen with:09:02
genjixBusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)09:02
genjixEnter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.09:02
genjix/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off09:02
genjix(initramfs) _09:02
Martiinijhutchins: locate menu.list09:02
Martiiniin terminal09:02
genjix? Its got me stumped and I'm trying to switch away from gentoo :)09:03
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AHinMainei'm switching away from suse 10.2....   pita....09:03
jhutchinsgenjix: Looks like you might have some hardware issues, that looks like single user mode or rescue mode.09:03
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firecrotchit's /boot/grub/menu.lst09:03
MartiiniThehound666: locate menu.list in terminal09:03
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genjixdamn...09:04
jhutchinsAHinMaine: Ok, you're not trying to upgrade, are you?  You're doing a clean install?09:04
jhutchinsgenjix: you too?09:04
AHinMaineyep.  fresh.  repart, refmt...09:04
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jhutchinsAHinMaine: Anything in particular you're having trouble with?09:05
AHinMainejust getting firefox and gaim installed.09:05
AHinMaineI'm on the repository step from ubuntuguide.org right now.09:05
Thehound666titleMicrosoft Windows XP Professional09:05
Thehound666root(hd0,0)09:05
Thehound666savedefault09:05
Thehound666makeactive09:05
Thehound666chainloader+109:05
AHinMainei'm just wondering if it's missing some gnome crap that might not be installed by default on kubuntu...09:06
Thehound666what do I want to edit?09:06
jhutchinsIs that the whole file?09:06
Thehound666no09:06
jhutchinsDON'T PASTE IT!09:06
francescotest09:06
Thehound666just the xp entry09:06
jhutchinspaste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:06
gan|y|medany other ideas about webcam support in (k)ubuntu? is there any programme, preferably as a deb?09:07
jhutchinsgan|y|med: Have you tried kopete and gaim?09:07
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firecrotchThehound666: Near the top of the file, there should be a line that says "deafult 0" -- just change the 0 to the number of the menu entry that you want to be the default09:07
francescogan|y|med : try to install icq for windows with wine?09:07
gan|y|medgaim doesn't support as far as i know, onle the fork of it. and i don't know anything about kopete, that's why i am asking09:07
jhutchinsfrancesco: I don't think that's a good idea.09:08
francescowhy?09:08
gan|y|medfrancesco: no way! icq is a horrible piece of software09:08
jhutchinsgan|y|med: I didn't ask if you thought it worked, I asked if you'd tried it.09:08
gan|y|medbut thx anyway09:08
Thehound6663 correct?09:08
Thehound666default=009:09
gan|y|medno, because before installing i though i'd better ask so that i don't need to install one after the other09:09
jhutchinsThehound666: How woudl we know?09:09
AHinMainei've never laid hands on any debian related distro...   so this is pretty new for me...   i'm only versed in solaris, freebsd, with some redhat and (recently) suse thrown in...09:09
Thehound666I don't know how I'd know09:09
Thehound666lol09:09
Thehound666xp is listed last09:09
jhutchinsDid you see where I asked you to paste it to pastebin?09:09
Thehound666among 4 options09:09
hund_how can i configure kubunto to be a gateway to internet?09:09
Thehound666if it works this time09:10
Thehound666always accuses me of spamming09:10
jhutchinshund_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:10
jhutchinsWHoops.09:10
gan|y|medhund_ search for ip forwarding in google09:10
jhutchinshund_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/09:10
jhutchinshund_: Everything you need to know.09:10
hund_thanks09:10
gan|y|medthis is better, of course09:10
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dethklokomfg, firefox like totally suck09:11
dethkloks09:11
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jhutchinsMany people have said so.09:11
jhutchinsUsually they don't know what they're doing.09:11
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gan|y|medquiet cold in here...09:11
dethklokI usually say it dosen't either... but it just keeps crashing and freezing09:11
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firecrotchdethklok: the only time Fx crashes for me is when I go to sites with horrible javascript that gets stuck in a neverending loop09:12
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Thehound666http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2658/09:13
Thehound666took four consecutive pushes to get it through09:13
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dethklokfirecrotch, Fx? Never heard it called that before.... But yeah, It seems to crash randomly when I change themes and when I'm on myspace or gmail :-p09:13
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elyon225Hey, guys.  I'm going to attempt to install a web server on this machine.  Doesn't need to serve a LOT of bandwidth, but I would like it to be available all the time.  I'd like to install some sort of content server for a personal blog.  Could someone please point me in the right direction for getting it all setup?  I'm running Kubuntu Edgy.09:14
firecrotchdethklok: That's the official abbreviation for Firefox :)09:14
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jhutchinsThehound666: So what made you think 3 might be correct?09:15
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jhutchinsThehound666: What migh happen if you are wrong?09:15
Thehound666it defaults at 0 to boot Kubuntu09:15
Thehound666so 3 entries down from it is xp09:15
jhutchinsSo that gives the impression that it number entries starting at 0.09:15
jhutchinsThehound666: What would happen if you were wrong?09:15
Thehound666no idea09:16
firecrotchelyon225: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP should help :)09:16
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jhutchinsI can think of two possibilities:09:16
jhutchins1) It boots to something other than XP.09:16
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jhutchins2) It doesn't boot.09:16
elyon225firecrotch: Thank you.  Do you have any particular blog software you'd recommend?  I've heard WordPress is good, but it's not free, is it?09:16
jhutchinsThehound666: What do you do if possibility 2 happens?09:17
Thehound666ok then so how do I be sure?09:17
Thehound6662 would be disaster09:17
firecrotchelyon225: WordPress is free, but I would recommend against it.  I'd write my own :)09:17
jhutchinsThehound666: You reboot.09:17
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jhutchinsThehound666: Not really.  You would use your kubuntu CD as a rescue boot disk.09:17
elyon225firecrotch: Okay, YOU would write your own.  What would you recommend for the NON-VB programmer? ;)09:17
jhutchinsThehound666: You would mount your /boot partition (or /), edit the menu file again, and try again.09:17
Theorywordpress is free09:18
Theoryat the moment I'm using s9y09:18
Thehound666is there official word on what number is what?09:18
firecrotchelyon225: WordPress isn't too bad, it's highly customizable and easy to use.  It's just that there are some problems with it when your blog gets a lot of hits09:18
elyon225firecrotch: Well, I have about 2 friends, so I think I'll be safe ;)09:18
francesco<<<--- bye bye09:19
firecrotchelyon225: Yeah, just don't expect it to hold up if you get dugg or something09:19
jhutchinsThehound666: see at the top of the file where it says "See: grub(8)"?09:19
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AHinMaineheh, i finally combined the /etc/apt/sources.list with the default as well as the ones from ubuntuguide.org and NOW i'm finally getting somewhere...09:19
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firecrotchThehound666: You want it set to 409:19
jhutchinsAHinMaine: You'll find once you get it right it's MUCH better than SuSE's online sources.09:19
jhutchinsfirecrotch: No he doesn't.09:20
jhutchinsfirecrotch: There is no 4.09:20
firecrotchHe has a total of 5 menu entries09:20
tom_hello09:20
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firecrotchjhutchins: He has a divider on line 141/142, which counts as an entry :)09:21
jhutchinsfirecrotch: Ubuntu, recovery, memtest, XP.09:21
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jhutchinsfirecrotch: Ah, so he does.09:21
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Hard_WiredI've just installed Edgy AMD64 and Adept has greyed out anything not already installed?09:21
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jhutchinsHm. He's gone anyway.09:22
firecrotchjhutchins: so did he set it to 3 and try to reboot?09:22
jhutchinsSo he'll get memtest86.09:22
jhutchinsOf course, rather than use the rescue CD, he could just use the bootmenu.09:22
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AHinMaineoh brother....  the only .deb version of gaim available is 2.0.0beta3, almost 10 months out of date...09:22
firecrotchHe'll get the divider, which won't boot, so it will fall back to whatever his fallback is stet to09:23
dethklok!changethemes09:23
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu09:23
jhutchinsAHinMaine: http://www.debuntu.org/gaim-2.0.0beta5-edgy-eft-feisty-fawn09:23
jhutchinsfirecrotch: Ah.09:24
AHinMainesweet.  thanx man.09:24
jhutchinslilo uses the actual label for each entry (must be unique).09:24
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firecrotchjhutchins: He doesn't have a fallback entry... so he'll be gone for a while until he figures out how to get into his system09:24
emilhello09:24
firecrotchHello, emil09:24
elyon225Hey, is it possible to redefine what my mouse buttons do? I have a middle button and two side buttons (that currently do nothing)09:25
dethklokHow do I reinstall something that isn't on apt-get?09:25
jhutchinsfirecrotch: Well, he does have a boot menu.  If he can't figure that out...09:25
emilCan someone help me out a bit09:25
emiltotally new in Kubuntu09:25
jhutchinselyon225: Yes.  One place is in your xorg.conf file.09:25
firecrotchjhutchins: Oh, yeah...09:25
elyon225jhutchins: Okay, I'll look into that.  Thank you.09:26
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devilsadvocateoin #ubunut-in09:26
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jhutchinsemil: Pretend we're Vulcans.  We won't respond to idle chatter, but if you ask a direct question we will respond if we have anything to say.09:26
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firecrotchelyon225: You'll need to figure out what code the side buttons send to the system using xev09:26
firecrotchelyon225: then map those to a specific action09:27
jhutchinselyon225: I don't think the GUI configuration tools offer much with that.09:27
Hard_Wired<dethklok> do you mean that adept has greyed out everything not already installed?09:27
elyon225jhutchins: No, I looked at GUI first but didn't see anything.09:27
devilsadvocatei'm having problems running gtk-apps on kubuntu - non of the text shows up on the menus, buttons, etc09:27
elyon225firecrotch: Okay, I'll give her a shot.09:27
firecrotchThe GUI sucks for anything other than a normal 2 button mouse09:27
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dethklokHard_Wired, No, like, its called Upower... and I read how to uninstall it and then reinstall it... but when I got to the step to reinstall the guide then told me "oh yeah, this project has been canceled so you can't reinstall it but here is the respitory"09:28
emilisnt there an application that can install apps for you,09:28
emilLike installing FireFox09:28
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dethklokemil, apt-get ?09:28
emilsearch for firefox in the app and the just Install09:28
emilok, yeah?09:29
emilI have never used linux before09:29
dethklokemil, sudo apt-get install firefox09:29
bfdhudWhat is a good alternative to audacity?09:29
emilok ty09:29
elyon225Alright...another stupid question.  How do I find out my host name with a konsole?09:29
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AHinMainetype hostname09:29
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emilCouldnt find the installation package09:29
posingaspopularemil: new ubuntu users, yay!09:29
emil:)09:29
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posingaspopularit isn't sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?09:30
dethklokemil, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:30
emiland then?09:30
Hard_WiredI've just installed Edgy and Adept has greyed out everything not already instealled, i can't install anything?!09:30
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dethklokemil, see the # , delete all of them infront of the respitories09:30
elyon225Hmm... hostname reports a name that MySql says doesn't exist.09:30
jhutchinsemil: Try mozilla-firefox09:30
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dethklokemil, then save and quit and try sudo apt-get install firefox agian09:31
dethklokdethklok, oh wait, you have to update first09:31
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dethklokemil, so sudo apt-get update09:31
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emilok ty, updating...09:33
emileverytime I have to type sudo dhclient eth1 to get my wlan to work, and I can't use WPA either?09:33
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elyon225Hard_Wired: You need to run that as root.  Did you enter your password when starting Adept?09:34
jhutchinsemil: probably depends on what card you have.09:34
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emilintel something... built in, in my laptop09:34
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firecrotchemil: You're using Edgy? I think that it's a known bug in Edgy09:35
dethklokemil, how new is the laptop?09:35
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emilone year in april09:36
emilI use the built in Wireless Assistant09:36
dethklokemil, yeah I don't know if something like that would have WPA, you might want to check with their website09:36
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firecrotchemil: Maybe try KNetworkManager instead09:36
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dethklokemil, and of corse you have to check to make sure you router even supports WPA09:37
DjDarkmanproperties_imp.cpp:(.text+0x52a): undefined reference to `libtorrent::torrent_info::~torrent_info()' ,what does this error mean?09:38
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vandenoeverhi anyone know a good usb headset for kubuntu edgy?09:39
firecrotchDoes anyone know if Ragnarok Online works with wine?09:40
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bfdhudAnyone willing to help me out with a problem?09:41
firecrotchbfdhud:  we're all willing to help if we can09:41
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bfdhudI just installed Kubuntu last night, I was using adept installer to install Audacity09:42
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bfdhudbut when I launch the program I get an error saying "Error initializing I/O layer"09:43
bfdhudand nothing works.09:43
bfdhudIs there a KDE specific alternative to Audacity09:44
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firecrotchbfdhud: not that I know of... I've always used audacity09:46
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bfdhudAny idea what my error means then firecrotch?09:47
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bfdhudI really have no idea how to troubleshoot linux.09:47
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emilWey got WPA to work =)09:47
emilwith KNetworkManager09:47
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firecrotchbfdhud: it seems to me as if audacity is having trouble using artsd (which is what handles audio input and output)09:48
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firecrotchemil: Congrats :)09:48
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robinswBeen asked a thousand times before probably, so...09:48
robinswCan anybody direct me to the wiki page about .deb files?09:49
robinswNeed to install Skype if I want to shun Windows completely! :)09:49
firecrotchrobinsw: Have you downloaded the .deb file already?09:49
emilfirecrotch: ty09:49
robinswYeah, it's downloaded09:49
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robinswJust need to install it09:49
emiland I got FF too =)09:49
firecrotchemil: yw09:49
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firecrotchrobinsw: dpkg -i filename.deb09:50
devilsadvocateanyone here uses scigraphica on kubunut?09:50
robinswSmashing, thanks09:50
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robinswdevilsadvocate, is there a shiny GUI way of doing that?09:50
TopDawg216question...why is it that when I try to remove any included programs, it says that Kubuntu has to be removed?09:50
bfdhudThanks firecrotch] 09:50
robinswI'm thinking (takes a deep breath) InstallShield? (Ducks as tomatoes fly at him)09:50
devilsadvocateto do what robinsw09:50
robinswTo install Debian packages?09:50
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robinsw:)09:50
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devilsadvocaterobinsw, double click :D09:51
firecrotchrobinsw: if you right click the deb file, you can choose "Install"09:51
emilCan I get wow to work from kubuntu?09:51
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Rob-Westhow can i make Kubuntu see my webcam09:51
robinswAh, thanks09:51
robinswBRB09:51
firecrotchemil: I've heard of people getting WoW to work, search around http://appsdb.winehq.com09:51
Rob-West!webcams09:52
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:52
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firecrotchemil: sorry, it's http://appdb.winehq.com09:52
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emilhehe ok, well Ill need windows for work so no rush but09:52
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jhutchinsrobinsw: There's also aptitude.09:52
dethklok!paste09:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:53
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TopDawg216! remove wvdial09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remove wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
dethklokCan somebody take a look at this ./configure print out please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2670/09:53
TopDawg216damn...figured it would give me a tip that would work on all of the programs I want gone :(09:54
dethklokTopDawg216, what do you want gone?09:54
firecrotchdethklok: You need to tell it where X is installed09:54
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lupine_85checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:54
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lupine_85so install xlibs-dev09:54
lupine_85!xlibs-dev09:54
ubotuxlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB09:54
lupine_85or whatever it's transitional for09:55
dethklokI'm runnind dapper09:55
TopDawg216Well, there's a lot of extra stuff (got Kubuntu-desktop) that I dont need, and when I try to remove it, it says I have to remove Kubutnu-desktop too09:55
dethklokrunning*09:55
lupine_85doesn't matter09:55
lupine_85!info xlibs-dev dapper09:55
ubotuxlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB09:55
dethklokTopDawg216, you can usually type sudo apt-get remove *packet name*09:55
jhutchinsTopDawg216: Let it lie for a while, see if you don't end up using it.09:55
firecrotchTopDawg: You can safely remove Kubuntu-Desktop, since it's not a real package.  Just don't remove it's dependencies09:55
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dethkloklupine_85, how do I tell it where X is?09:56
fairmanHi, how can i add my public IP adress? (I have local IP adress 10.107.... and i need to use both)09:56
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TopDawg216well as of right now, I'm just testing everything on a dual boot.  Maybe later when I completely switch over I'll just format everything and start with a very basic version09:56
TopDawg216like kde-core or something09:57
jhutchinsTopDawg216: What kindof stuff are you trying to remvoe.09:57
lupine_85dethklok: just install the package, re-run configure09:57
TopDawg216just random stuff that I don't need (there's a lot of things)09:57
jhutchinsTopDawg216: The idea of KDE is that it's a pretty comprehensive software suite, includes a lot of stuff.09:57
dethkloklupine_85, i have tried, it gives the same thing over and over09:57
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firecrotchTopDawg216: If you have the space, I would keep the stuff.  Never know when you might need it09:58
jhutchinsIf you want something stripped down, consider a simpler desktop environment like xfce.09:58
lupine_85in that case, ./configure --help09:58
TopDawg216cool09:58
TopDawg216thanks for all the advice everyone :)09:58
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jhutchinsdethklok: which X09:58
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jhutchinsIn console.09:59
dethklokjhutchins, Lol, that makes no sense to me... Which X?09:59
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jhutchinsdethklok: What are you trying to build?09:59
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jhutchinsdethklok: In a console, type "which X" (without the quotes).  Hit return.10:00
dethklokI'm trying to install new themes... but it just came with a bunch of files that I have to compile I guess...10:00
dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop/asdf/moodin$ which x10:00
dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop/asdf/moodin$10:00
jhutchinsdethklok: Did you read the README and INSTALL files?10:00
firecrotchdethklok:  you shouldn't have to compile anything to use a new theme...10:00
dethklokYep10:00
jhutchinsdeth, not x, X.10:01
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lupine_85it's after the X include files. they're in xlibs-dev10:01
dethklok /usr/bin/X10:01
emilWhat's the default font for FF?10:01
emilthis looks very strange compared to FF in XP10:01
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emil??10:01
jhutchinsdethklok: "which" will report the path to any executable.10:01
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jhutchinsHowever, as lupine_85 said, it wants the include files (headers).10:02
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cntbemil you add some fonts10:02
dethklokjhutchins, so try to configure again?10:02
ninHerhi all10:02
emilcntb: how?10:02
test34emil, I like bitstream charter10:02
jhutchinsThis is why most people stay away from compiling, you end up having to install a whole development environment.10:02
cntbwait10:02
firecrotchemil: it uses the default variable width font on your system10:02
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firecrotchemil: You can change it in your Firefox preferences though10:03
jhutchinsdethklok: If you can find it as a .deb you're better off.10:03
E_mEhi all...10:03
dethklokkk10:03
posingaspopularE_mE: what's good in the hood?10:03
test34emit: edit - preferences - content10:03
firecrotchdethklok: Or an RPM if no deb is available10:03
E_mEIs there a driver or so for 5 button Micosoft mice??10:03
dethklokWell I'm trying to install the "Moodin Enging"10:03
E_mEposingaspopular: lots of weed hidden in my hood =P10:04
posingaspopularE_mE: not the first time ive heard it10:04
emilfirecroth: how and what should I change too, webpages dont look too good...10:04
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E_mEposingaspopular: prob not the last ;)10:04
posingaspopularemil: did you change the resolution? did you use any skins or extenstions on FF? etc10:04
firecrotchE_mE: I've never been able to get my Microsucks 5 button mouse to work properly10:05
E_mE:(10:05
dethklokACCIDENT!!!10:05
dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo rm -rf /usr/bin/X10:05
dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~$ which X10:05
dethkloktehpwn@tuxbox:~$10:05
firecrotchE_mE: I haven't tried to get it working lately though10:05
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E_mEfirecrotch: ill go and browse around10:06
firecrotchemil: In firefox... Edit -> Preferences -> Content10:06
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dethklokumm?10:06
dethklokhelp?10:06
firecrotchdethklok: You didn't really do that, did you? I hope not10:07
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maawhat do you need ??10:07
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jhutchinsE_mE: The regular microsoft driver should work, you may need to enable extra buttons in xorg.conf10:07
cntbemil look for msttffonts package10:07
dethklokfirecrotch, yeah I really did........ I pushed Shift+Insert because I was trying to paste in the path to the files on my desktop10:07
robinswAnybody else found that Skype with Windows works fine, but the microphone input on Linux is very very low?10:08
firecrotchdethklok: got a backup?10:08
robinswIs there a mic boost option at all?10:08
dethkloknope10:08
emilcntb: where do I find it?10:08
dethklokfirecrotch, nope10:08
jhutchinsdethklok: You're probably going to need to reinstall xorg then.10:08
devilsadvocaterobinsw, that would depend on your audio card, i believe10:08
dethklokjhutchins, can i apt-get that?10:08
emilposingaspopular: I have the right resolution and stuff10:09
robinswdevilsadvocate, that makes sense.10:09
robinswThanks, buddy.10:09
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cntbemil try google in the meantime looking for it in help.ubuntu.com10:09
firecrotchdethklok:  You can, but first you'll have to uninstall it10:09
posingaspopularemil: can you post a screenshot?10:09
rysiek|plhi all10:09
emilsure...10:09
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jhutchinsdethklok: It probably won't apt-get because it's already installed.10:09
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devilsadvocaterobinsw, i have a mic boost option, as do i have a whole bunch of controls i have no idea what use are of :P10:09
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dethklokE: Couldn't find package xorg10:10
jhutchinsdethklok: I don't know enough about apt/deb yet to tell you how to force it.  You might need to download the package that has /usr/bin/X in it and force install it with dpkg.10:10
rysiek|plguys, if my localized ubuntu repo server (pl.archive.ubuntu.com) is down, and I *need* to install something, can I simply replace pl.archive.ubuntu.com with, say, en.archive.ubuntu.com in the sources.list file and go on?10:10
dethklokjhutchins, yeah that makes no sense to me at all10:10
firecrotch!tell me about xorg10:10
cntbemil also try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/10:10
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DeadFishMandethklok: You just need to recreate the xorg.conf file from scratch? You can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh10:10
cntb!ttf10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
jhutchinsDeadFishMan: He deleted /usr/bin/X.10:11
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cntb!fonts10:11
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:11
BluesKajHowdy all :)10:11
jhutchinsdethklok: Are you running dapper or edgy?10:11
dethklokdapper10:11
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DeadFishManjhutchins: Ouch!10:11
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eismahow do i fix this: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "10:11
cntbemil there you go10:11
jhutchinsOk, you need to get someone who's also running dapper to email you /usr/bin/X.10:11
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cntb!fonts |emil10:11
ubotuemil: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:11
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hund_can anyone help me configuring internal network?10:11
firecrotcheisma: run dpkg --configure -a ?10:11
DeadFishManeisma: Did you try to simply run: dpkg --configure -a ?10:12
jhutchinseisma: you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "10:12
eismayes..10:12
eismai did that10:12
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dethklokjhutchins, seems like edgy is more popular anyways... should i just download that iso and install that?10:12
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eismaand it's downloading flash from a website but doesn't do anything10:12
cntbemil sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts10:12
hund_i need help configuring kubuntu to let an internal network pc acess to the internet10:12
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cntbalso emil sudo apt-get install gsfonts10:13
jhutchinsdethklok: Well, yeah.  People have had problems when they upgraded instead of doing a clean install, but you could do that.10:13
HymnToLifehund_, please be mlore precide, what kind of internet connection do you have ?10:13
cntband emil sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x1110:13
HymnToLifemore*10:13
jhutchinsdethklok: Tell you what, there should be a /usr/bin/X on the Dapper CD.10:13
dethklokjhutchins, Yeah I mean a complete reinstall10:13
dethklokjhutchins, I did the Ship-It... does that help?10:13
jhutchinsdethklok: Not unless you feel like the whole system is messed up.10:14
hund_i have an adsl connection. and i also have a lan.10:14
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firecrotchjhutchins: I would have never thought of doing that10:14
jhutchinshund_: Didn't I give you the IP MASQ HOWTO earlier?10:14
hund_indeed10:14
HymnToLifehund_, do you have a router ? If so, you just need to configure your Ethernet interface10:14
hund_but i am a begginer10:14
dethklokjhutchins, well, kinda, there are a lot of things that I have messed up... like boot screen and network problems... (cuz im such a huge noob i guess)10:14
hund_no i don't have any router10:14
jhutchinsdethklok: Experience is proportional to data destroyed.10:15
hund_that guide was quite confuse for me10:15
jhutchinshund_: You want the ubuntu box to be a router for you.10:15
HymnToLifeOh, right; you want to do an ICS10:15
hund_yes10:15
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robinswDamn! Skypecasts aren't supported with Linux.10:15
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robinswChrist on a big bike.10:15
HymnToLifethere's a wiki page about it, you can use Firestarter10:15
dethklokjhutchins, well I have learned to not just randomly push Shift+Insert randomly...10:15
firecrotchdethklok: You can take the easy way out and reinstall, or try to fix everything10:15
jhutchinsShorewall will probably set it up too.10:15
matteoHEY ALL10:16
jhutchins(Oops, that's another all-console approach.)10:16
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dethklokfirecrotch, I like the easy way... (not linux lol)10:16
hund_when i ping from the other box everything is ok but when i try to acess the internet i can't10:16
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firecrotchdethklok: But you don't learn anything doing it the easy way10:16
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jhutchinsWith great power comes great responsibility.10:16
robinswfirecrotch, that's my mantra too! :)10:16
dethklokWhat does that file do anyways?10:16
dethklokxorg.conf10:16
dethklokor w/e10:16
DeadFishMandethklok: You mean X?10:16
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jhutchinshund_: Can you ping an external IP?10:17
dethklokDeadFishMan, sure.. what ever I deleted10:17
da[MAGE] Hi to all10:17
DeadFishMan!xorg.conf | dethklok10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
firecrotchdethklok: It's all of the settings for displaying stuff, and interfacing with your mouse/keyboard/etc10:17
hund_let me check10:17
DeadFishMandethklok: X is the Graphical User Interface of Linux10:17
dethklokfirecrotch, Then how come I'm still using the computer just fine?10:17
firecrotchdethklok: The file is still in RAM until you restart10:17
jhutchinsdethklok: Your best bet is to mount the shipit CD and see if you can find /usr/bin/X.10:18
DeadFishMandethklok: Without it you will be left with just a command line to use10:18
firecrotchIt only gets reloaded when you restart X10:18
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DeadFishMandethklok: Try to follow jhutchins advice.... That might work!10:18
dethklokOIC, well I would have no freaking idea what to do in the command line... lol10:18
dethklokOk, will do10:18
jhutchinsMany fine things have been done from the command line.10:18
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posingaspopularemil: any progress?10:18
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hund_no i can't ping any external ip10:19
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Gimmysera10:19
da[MAGE] eila10:19
firecrotchdethklok: I had no idea how to use the command line either until I was forced to do it10:19
DeadFishManActually, I am using BitchX on a GNU Screen session as we speak... :)10:19
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dethklokCrap, It figures.. once I really need the cd i cant find it.. lll10:20
dethkloklol*10:20
Gimmyi want to install beryl on kubuntu edgy10:20
DeadFishManOn the other session, I have wget downloading Etch ISO files10:20
dethklokOh! never mind I got it!10:20
hund_no i can't ping any external ip...10:20
firecrotchGimmy: And?10:20
firecrotchGimmy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy should help.10:21
Gimmyand i have an english layout for the keyboard10:21
jhutchinshund_: What have you done so far?10:21
Gimmy*i-m italian...(10:21
hund_i've set the ip on both boxes10:21
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hund_one to 192.168.0.110:21
hund_and other to 192.168.0.210:22
dethklokjhutchins, firecrotch, DeadFishMan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2675/10:22
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firecrotchGimmy: Do you have Beryl actually installed?10:22
Gimmymmm10:22
hund_and set up the dns server10:22
Gimmyi don-t know10:22
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jhutchinshund_: You need to set IP Forwarding ON, and you need to set up IPTABLES rules.10:22
Gimmyup to five minut ago10:23
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jhutchinshund_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137010:23
hund_nd how do i do that?10:23
Gimmyi view an icon of beryl near clock10:23
hund_thnkx i'll take a look10:23
dethklokUmm, What am I supposed to do? :'(10:23
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firecrotchGimmy: Okay, you have it installed.10:24
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Gimmybut10:24
markelhashi, need some tips with my network10:24
Gimmynow i don-t view that icon10:24
jhutchinshund_: That tells you how in 8 steps.10:24
Gimmyi have only the emerald theme manager10:24
hund_ok10:24
markelhaseverytime that i turn off my machine and start again, i have problems of in my network10:24
dethklokhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2675/10:25
markelhasi've static ip on my eth010:25
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markelhasi can ping my privet ip, but can ping the router gw10:25
DeadFishManbrb10:25
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jhutchinsdethklok: find /media/hdd/bin -name X10:26
markelhasi've to start firewall and network wizard couple of times to get network working10:26
LivedifferentHello! I am something of a noob. Would anyone be able to answer a question regarding dual booting?10:26
markelhashow can i solve this10:26
markelhas?10:26
devilsadvocateLivedifferent, go on10:27
jhutchinsmarkelhas: If you're on an internal network you shouldn't need the firewall.10:27
dethklokjhutchins, do I type that in the command line?10:27
robinswGuys -- Got a USB hard drive, but Kubuntu won't let me write to it. How do I open it up for full access?10:27
jhutchinsdethklok: Try it.10:27
dethklokjhutchins, no print back10:27
tsdgeosrobinsw: ntfs formated?10:27
robinswFraid so10:27
LivedifferentWhat would be the best way to dual boot/partition an OEM'd Windows box with Ubuntu?10:27
tsdgeos!ntfs10:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:27
robinsw!ntfs10:27
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markelhasjhutchins: i'm on a internal network10:27
robinsw!fuse10:27
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:27
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devilsadvocateLivedifferent, what OEM is it, and how is your partitioning like?10:27
cntbLivedifferent: dual boot very common issue10:28
devilsadvocaterobinsw, it isnt as unsafe as ubotu makes it out to be :P10:28
LivedifferentThis is hypothetical, since I own a Mac now10:28
markelhasjhutchins: but only when i start firestart and shutdown that works10:28
LivedifferentBut it would probably be OEM'd with XP Pro10:28
LivedifferentANd have only one partition on an 80GB HD10:28
markelhasjhutchins: i don't want any firewall10:28
markelhasjhutchins: because slow down my p2p clients10:28
firecrotchLivedifferent: actually it might have one of those pesky hidden recovery paritions10:28
jhutchinsmarkelhas: How did you end up with firestart?10:28
devilsadvocateLivedifferent, best bet will be to wipe one partition and replace with ext3fs. if its a single partitoin you have, then resize the biggest after a defrag10:28
markelhasjhutchins: i've click stop, then exit10:29
cntbLivedifferent: first off get gparted liveCD10:29
jhutchinsI think the installer will repartition a windows drive - not sure about ntfs.10:29
cntbshrink big partition10:29
LivedifferentSorry, noob alert. What's ext3fs? Some sort of file system?10:29
robinswInstead of using Fuse, can I convert from NTFS to a linux format?10:29
jhutchinsLivedifferent: Yes.10:29
jhutchinsLinux filesysetem.10:29
robinswGot 320GB of stuff on there, you see.10:29
LivedifferentThanks10:29
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devilsadvocateLivedifferent, i would suggest partition magic if we need to tell you what ext3fs is :)10:29
firecrotchLivedifferent: Yes, it's the default filesystem for most Linux distros10:29
cntbLivedifferent: yes filesystem FS10:29
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LivedifferentSo I can get a liveCD which will partition it after wiping the windows partition?10:30
jhutchinsDoesn't the installer repartition?10:30
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LivedifferentI don't know, I've owned a Mac since OS X10:30
robinswInstead of using Fuse, can I convert from NTFS to a linux format?10:30
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LivedifferentAnd I haven't tried Ubuntu on it10:30
devilsadvocateLivedifferent, you dont need to wipe the windows partition, although that would make it a lot easier10:30
jhutchinsLivedifferent: You shouldn't have to wipe the windows partition, although that might be easier.10:30
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da[MAGE] hey guys does any one know a better looking bootloader than grub?10:30
devilsadvocaterobinsw, not without losing data10:30
hund_how do i get to a root terminal?10:30
robinswCrap10:31
robinsw:-/10:31
firecrotchda[MAGE] : You can configure GRUB to look how you want it10:31
jhutchinsLivedifferent: There are linux tools that will shrink the windows partition and make a new linux partition.10:31
Hirvinenrobinsw: No. You'll have to store it somewhere else during the reformat.10:31
devilsadvocateda[MAGE] , grub is beautiful :)10:31
jhutchinsLivedifferent: Most of the installers will offer to do that.10:31
da[MAGE] tnx fire..10:31
robinswGotcha10:31
robinswThanks10:31
da[MAGE] do u have links?10:31
jhutchinsLivedifferent: It's always a good idea to have a backup though.10:31
LivedifferentDevils/jhutchins: Will Ubuntu's installer do that?10:31
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jhutchins!sudo | hund_10:31
ubotuhund_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:31
firecrotchda[MAGE] : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/10:31
cntbLivedifferent: first off get gparted liveCD10:31
TopDawg216so I've looked into it and the programs I want to delete are all games10:31
da[MAGE] tnx....if that dont work ill google it<,910:32
cntbgparted10:32
devilsadvocateLivedifferent, wipe windows partition ? yeah10:32
TopDawg216so I would just do apt-get remove <gamename>10:32
da[MAGE] ;)10:32
TopDawg216correct?10:32
jhutchinsLivedifferent: cntb is telling you how to get a tool to do it manually.10:32
cntb!gparted10:32
ubotugparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php10:32
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LivedifferentOkay10:32
markelhasjhutchins: should y finish in another way?10:32
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firecrotchTopDawg216: Yes, that should work10:32
devilsadvocateLivedifferent, although since you want to dual boot, first install windows first and keep free space for the linux, then use the linux live cd to finish the job10:32
alexmicHi all, anyone managed to setup a gnunetd?10:32
jhutchinsmarkelhas: I don't know why you have firestart installed to begin with.  Why not uninstall it?10:32
Alex`just a question .......... how can i login as root ? i had a link where it was explained something about modifying a file but i don't remember it :|10:32
Livedifferentcntb: So with gparted liveCD I can shrink the Windows partition?10:33
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jhutchins!sudo | Alex`10:33
hund_jhutchins in the tutorial it says to type all the commands in a root terminal, DO NOT use sudo....10:33
ubotuAlex`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:33
firecrotchAlex`: You don't.10:33
cntbLivedifferent: yep10:33
jhutchinshund_: Ah.10:33
Alex`i did10:33
markelhasjhutchins: and my p2p clients will work normaly?10:33
Alex`the last time10:33
robinswIf I plug in an external USB2 hard drive whilst Linux is already running, how can I force Linux to detect it?10:33
markelhasjhutchins: torrent and emule?10:33
jhutchinshund_: ubuntu is trying to change that, but use sudo -i.10:33
alexmicAlex`: sudo passwd root10:33
LivedifferentThanks all! I appreciate it. I'm just getting my feet wet with Linux now.10:33
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firecrotchrobinsw: It should detect it automatically10:33
devilsadvocatehund_, to get a root terminal first enable root : "sudo passwd root" and then type "su" in a terminal10:34
cntbLivedifferent: be patient it works perfectly wait when in doubt it is stuck10:34
firecrotchdevilsadvocate: no no no10:34
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Gimmyok10:34
devilsadvocatehund_, this is not usually recommended unless you know exactly what you are doing10:34
Gimmyi have beryl10:34
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Gimmybut my windows decorator10:34
Alex`alexmic i wanna login as root ...... i did it the last time i installed kubuntu but i don't remember the file ....... i'll just search10:34
Gimmyis failed10:34
firecrotchroot terminal: sudo /bin/bsh10:34
jhutchinsLivedifferent: Most installers will do a reasonably safe job of repartitioning for you these days.  You might want to google "dual boot linux" and read up a bit.10:34
HymnToLifeAlex`, sudo -i will give you a root shell10:34
jhutchinsfirecrotch: sudo -i10:35
Alex`not enough :P10:35
HymnToLife(please don't do sudo bash, nor sudo -s)10:35
firecrotchHymnToLife: Why is sudo bash bad?10:35
HymnToLifeyou want to login as root GRAPHICALLY ?10:35
alexmicAlex`:  you run sudo passwd root, you enter a password for the root accound and then you can log in root10:35
HymnToLifethat seems like a _very_ bad idea10:35
jhutchinsfor what hund_ is doing sudo -i will work fine.10:36
HymnToLifefirecrotch, man sudo could have told you that sudo -i simulates an initial login instead of just running the shell executable as root10:36
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HymnToLifethus setting the environment variables coorectly10:36
alexmicBut I can only support HymnToLife that login in X as root is a bad idea10:36
Alex` kdmrc i edit this file and it enables me to login as root ........ remembered it :D thanks anyway10:36
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TopDawg216how do I find the location of the GNOME game pack?10:37
jhutchinsAlex`: There are good reasons that's disabled by default...10:37
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Gimmycan you help me_10:37
Alex`well i kinda don't care about reasons ........ i do it for other stuff10:37
vge!ask10:37
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:37
Alex`:P10:37
sfpavelis there a photoshop version for kubuntu? if there is where can i get it?10:37
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Gimmyfirecrotch: can you help me?10:37
jhutchinsGimmy: Only if you tell us what the problem is.10:37
HymnToLifesfpavel, no10:37
Gimmyok10:37
robinsw_Sorry, connection died10:37
Alex`sfpavel gimp10:37
jhutchinssfpavel: Have a look at The Gimp.10:37
Gimmyberyl run10:38
markelhasjhutchins: if i remove the firewall should i config anything to use p2p clients?10:38
HymnToLifeif you feel adventurous, you can try to run it in !wine10:38
TopDawg216sfpavel:  Photoshop is not available for Kubuntu...try Gimp though10:38
TopDawg216^^10:38
Gimmybut window decorator crash10:38
Gimmyi have kubuntu edgy10:38
sfpavelwhat about flash?10:38
cntbTopDawg216: sudo apt-cache search game10:38
TopDawg216awesome...thanks :)10:38
Alex`sfpavel run adept and search for flash10:38
robinsw_Can anybody tell me how to reformat an NTFS ext harddrive to the Linux FS?10:39
firecrotchGimmy: I've never had problems with the window manager crashing, so I really can't be of much help10:39
sfpavelthnx guys10:39
cntbTopDawg216: sudo apt-get install gnome-games10:39
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devilsadvocaterobinsw_, mkext2fs -j /dev/hdb110:40
HymnToLiferobinsw_, mkfs is a nice command-line tool to do it. If you want a graphical interface, use gparted10:40
jhutchinscntb: What would be the command to find the package name?10:40
Gimmymmm10:40
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robinsw_Thanks, guys10:40
devilsadvocateassuming hdb1 is the partition you want to reformat10:40
devilsadvocateyou will loose all data10:40
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cntbsudo apt-cache search game jhutchins ?10:40
devilsadvocatemke2fs robinsw_10:40
da[MAGE] can one upgrade from from ubuntu 6.06 to edgy?10:41
da[MAGE] without reinstalling everything10:41
DjDarkmancan someone give me a howto that fully covers compiling a kernel with ubuntu patches?10:41
HymnToLife!edgy | da[MAGE] 10:41
ubotuda[MAGE] : Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes10:41
jhutchinsda[MAGE] : Yes, but you should be aware that the people who have had problems with edgy have mostly been people who upgraded.10:41
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cntbda[MAGE] : still dont know an easy path to dapper edgy upgrade10:42
HymnToLifeagreed, I definitely recommend doing a fresh install of Edgy10:42
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da[MAGE] tnx ppl10:42
jhutchinsNot everybody has problems.10:42
firecrotchI had no problem upgrading from Dapper :)10:42
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devilsadvocateda[MAGE] , you can upgrade , unless you ave some exotic installs, maybe even something like compiz or graphics drivers10:43
cntbfirecrotch: pls tell us about upgrading to edgy10:43
dethklokis ktorrent any good, or should I get something better?10:43
chavodethklok, ktorrent works great10:43
dethklokchavo kk10:43
firecrotchcntb: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade worked just fine for me10:43
cox377my kubuntu has started to feel very sluggish.. i've got an 7gb hdd and i';ve used 5gb but i've got nothing really on the machine.. i've run apt-get clean.. is there any other commands for cleaning the system?10:44
dethklokfirecrotch, should I do that?10:44
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firecrotchdethklok: If you have your system messed up currently, it will still be messed up after upgrading with dist-upgrade10:44
firecrotchProbably worse10:44
dethklokfirecrotch, OIC, guess not then10:44
cox377!system clean10:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about system clean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
dethklokfirecrotch, so it wont fix my X problem :(10:45
cox377!clean10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
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jhutchinsdethklok: I'd say the best bet was to go ahead and do a clean install of Edgy.10:45
firecrotchdethklok: I agree with jhutchins10:46
robinsw_gparted is formatting the drive now... thanks everybody!10:46
jhutchinsdethklok: If you want to fix Dapper, boot to the dapper CD.  You'll have /usr/bin/X, copy that to /usr/bin on the hard drive.10:46
dethklokjhutchins, Yeah, I just started the DL on the PC downstairs... (it's wired)10:46
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cox377anyone know about cleaning?10:46
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jhutchinscox377: Don't mix bleach and amonia.10:47
firecrotchcox377:  Like with a vacuum or a broom and dustpan?10:47
jhutchinscox377: Be careful not to overspin fans when using compressed air?10:47
cox377lol10:47
dethklokjhutchins, so can i do: cp /hdd/bin /usr/bin10:47
cox377how about system clean10:47
jhutchinsdethklok: No.10:47
cox377remove some of the 5gb that i have no idea what it's used on10:47
jhutchinsdethklok: if /hdd/bin/X exists, you can cp /hdd/bin/X /usr/bin10:48
firecrotchcox377: If you have no idea what the stuff is, best to leave it alone10:48
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cox377firecrotch: yeh but 5gb or nothing is  alot10:48
dethklokjhutchins, yeah there is no /hdd/cin/X10:48
cox377firecrotch: there must be a system clean function?10:48
dethklokbin*10:48
jhutchinscox377: You can clear /tmp, /var/tmp, and probably there's a cache for apt you can clean.10:48
jhutchinscox377: By default, linux runs a pretty clean system.10:49
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jhutchins5gb is a pretty reasonable install.10:49
cox377jhutchins: so just delete the contents of those folders?10:49
jhutchinsYou can delete /usr/share/doc if you're that kind of person.10:49
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jhutchinscox377: It's probably better to selectively uninstall packages you don't (think) you need.10:50
cox377jhutchins: what does 5gb go on.. i mean a browser / media / few other apps10:50
cntbcox377: virgin XP takes almost 7.5 GB10:50
Alex`bye all ....... rebooting :D10:50
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cox377cntb: never in a day mate10:50
jhutchinsI've got 7.6G with a pretty full install and some user data.10:51
firecrotchcox377: Any programs that you _don't_ use can be removed10:51
cox377cntb: 2gb max.. i'm just wondering where the space has gone because it never used to be that much.. say 3gb max10:51
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cox377firecrotch: whats the best way to list installed applications?10:51
jhutchinscox377: I've got an old RH firewall with no gui in 913M10:52
cox377firecrotch: smoothwall : P10:52
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jhutchinsOh, no, that's actually 1.6G.10:52
jhutchinscox377: I'm sure there's a way to do it from the command line, but if you launch Aptitude it will show you what's installed.10:53
firecrotchcox377: Adept will list everything that you have installed10:53
jhutchinsEr, adept.10:53
pedroBRtem alguem do brasil a?10:53
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firecrotch!br | pedroBR10:54
ubotupedroBR: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:54
TopDawg216exit10:54
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Gimmyhey10:55
Gimmythen10:55
da[MAGE] I just started using ubuntu as my first linux distro....did I make a good choice?10:55
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firecrotchda[MAGE] : It's excellent for beginners10:55
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Gimmyi have beryl and i select the windows manager kde10:55
Gimmyif i select compiz or beryl10:56
Gimmycrash10:56
jhutchinsGimmy: Yup.  Bleeding edge software.10:56
da[MAGE] excellent..but do other ones give u something -some more gears than ubuntu..or do even pros keep using it?10:56
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jhutchinsda[MAGE] : It's quite extensible, and since it's based on debian you can get very advanced with it.10:56
Gimmyjhutchins: i don-t understand10:56
firecrotchda[MAGE] : It's all a matter of personal preference for those who are experienced10:56
jhutchinsGimmy: That stuff's unstable and doesn't always work.10:56
Gimmythere-s a solution_10:57
jhutchinsGimmy: Maybe.10:57
jhutchinsGimmy: Given enough time spent deep enough in the code, I'm sure there is.10:57
Snoosehello everyone, i'm looking for a web page i ran across earlier and can't seem to find again.10:57
firecrotchda[MAGE] : I've used other distros (Gentoo, Slackware, SUSE) and have always come back to Kubuntu10:57
robinsw_!xvid10:58
jhutchinsda[MAGE] : It's not my personal first choice, but that's not because it can't do what I want it to.10:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:58
da[MAGE] cool...tnx firecrotch;)10:58
Snooseit said how to get multiple programs to use the same dial-up conn. at the same time.  anyone know where it is?10:58
robinsw_Wow, that ubotu really knows his stuff! XD10:58
jhutchinsSnoose: Um, usually they do that by default.10:58
firecrotchda[MAGE] : I'll admit though that it's because I don't like fussing with things if I don't have to10:58
jhutchinsSnoose: If you have a ppp connection, it just looks like a network adapter to the system, and they all use it.10:59
da[MAGE] k10:59
firecrotchrobinsw_: Don't forget to feed it! :)10:59
firecrotch!botsnack10:59
ubotuYum!10:59
dethklokjhutchins, So as long as I keep my computer on, it's fine? lol10:59
Snoosethey don't though... if i'm in firefox my downloads in apt stop and vice versa10:59
jhutchinsdethklok: Well, you don't want to end your session.10:59
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jhutchinsSnoose: It may be that they just slow way down, is that possible?11:00
dwidmannSnoose, dialup connections aren't too good at multi-tasking11:00
jhutchinsThey should continue when yrou pages are done loading.11:00
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firecrotchSnoose: You can always try decreasing Firefox's maxconnections11:00
Snoosei'm winxp they slow down but still works fine11:00
jhutchinsI've run three PC's through one dial-up connection at about 19,200 baud.11:00
Snooseim linux one just stops11:01
dwidmanncome to think of things, dialup connections aren't good at many things at all11:01
firecrotchdwidmann: So true.  Maybe for email?11:01
dwidmannThey also never cease to annoy me11:01
dethklokThey are good if you don't wanna get hacked... Lol11:01
dwidmannthey're good at that11:01
Snoosei have no alternative choice so i have to live with dial-up11:02
jhutchinsSnoose: I'd recommend doing less over the connection at once.11:02
robinsw_Ah, the directions for installing the codecs aren't working.11:02
jhutchinsDo your apt installations when you're not browsing.11:02
da[MAGE] dial up is sad.11:02
robinsw_Says that it can't find the packages, even though I've enabled all the repositories11:02
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Snoosebut i want to browse the net while downloading packages11:02
dwidmanndo the apt installations overnight if you can help it, it's less painful that way.11:02
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jhutchinsdethklok: Actually, if you reboot, you'll be stuck with a command line interface, which might do you some good <grin>.11:03
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dethklokjhutchins, NOOOOOOO!11:03
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jhutchins90% of what I do I can do from a command line via ssh.11:04
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jhutchinsIncluding editing photos.11:04
dethklokLol, no way?11:04
robinsw_Can anybody help me playing Restricted Formats? The directions given in the wiki tell me that a package couldn't be found, even though I have all the repositories enabled.11:04
jhutchinsYou betcha.11:04
jamrsjhutchins: editing photos?11:04
jhutchinsYep.11:04
dwidmannimagemagick?11:04
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dethklokLike resize them? Or more advanced than that?11:04
jhutchinsYes sir.11:04
Snoosefirecrotch: how do i decrease firefox's maxconnections?11:04
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jhutchinsdethklok: I usually don't go much beyond resizing.11:05
emil cant find the MS fonts11:05
jhutchinsdethklok: It's very possible though.11:05
jamrsjhutchins: lol how much further could you go11:05
dethklokjhutchins, thats awesome11:05
emilpackage msttcorefonts not available11:05
jhutchinsjamrs: I can crop, do some color adjustment, but I'm a real piker.11:05
jhutchinsYou can do amazing stuff with IM.11:06
BluesKajjhutchins, cli purist eh ? :)11:06
cntb!repos11:06
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:06
dethklokWhen I was messing with gentoo a while back I recall the built in web browser, that was kind of impressive11:06
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Lapsed.11:06
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cntb!repos |emil11:06
ubotuemil: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:06
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: About three years ago I bought enough hardware to finally run KDE at decent speed, and I get softer every week.11:06
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: I've started using fish and konquer instead of scp...11:07
dethklok!scp11:07
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/11:07
jhutchinss/konquer/konqueror.11:07
BluesKajfish?11:07
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jhutchinsscp as a filesystem.11:07
jhutchinsfish://user@remote.org11:08
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dethklokDoes anybody remember who it was that helped me with my wireless?11:08
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jhutchins!fish | BluesKaj11:09
ubotufish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21.12-1 (edgy), package size 631 kB, installed size 2560 kB11:09
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BluesKajcool11:09
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BluesKajjhutchins, I'll check that out11:10
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emilcntb I've done it but it can't find it11:10
dethklokSo whats the easiest disto? Maybe if I had one that easier to start out on then I wouldn't mess so much up...11:10
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emilsays that it refers to other packages11:11
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BluesKajhope I'm not getting "fished in"11:11
jhutchinsdethklok: Probably FC6 running gnome.11:11
dwidmanndethklok, different people will argue that age-old question to the death11:11
dethklokFedora Core?11:11
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jhutchinsdethklok: The thing is you've tried to mess with stuff and do advanced things you weren't ready to do.11:12
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dethklokjhutchins, Really, I don't think I have done to many things that were 'advanced'... except compiling11:12
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dethklokjhutchins, getting wireless to work was a bit*h but its done now :-p11:13
jhutchinsdethklok: Exactly what I'm talking about. You stepped right outside the system there.11:13
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jhutchinsI mean, nothing wrong with learning about that.11:14
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makuseruwhat do i need to open a .rtf?11:14
moparisthebestI have windows installed on one harddrive and linux installed on another, is there a way to get grub to allow me to choose bewtween the 2?11:14
dethklokjhutchins, I guess I just need somewhere to start... Kubuntu isn't the place?11:14
jhutchinsIt's just easier not to mess up if you stick with what's built in to the system.11:14
dwidmannmakuseru: try openoffice or koffice11:14
jhutchinsdethklok: I think it's a pretty good place to start.11:14
makuserudwidmann: anything small? i dont want to get somthing as big as OO11:15
jhutchinsdethklok: You're always going to hit things like printers and wireless cards and video that isn't as well supported as it is in Windows, but you can work around it, that's the point.11:15
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dethklokjhutchins, that was kinda my goal in switching over.. to be able to do everything i do in windows, in linux...11:15
jhutchinsmakuseru: You can use a plain text editor - kate, vim, pico.11:16
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makuserukate will open it?11:16
firecrotchdethklok: you can11:16
dethklok(ipod, wireless, internet surfing, music)11:16
jhutchinsmakuseru: it should, but it will probably ignore the markup.11:16
dwidmannmakuseru, for rtf, you need a rich text editor, kate won't do it for you, I don't think so anyway11:16
dethklokfirecrotch, oh i know i will be able to some day.. but i guess not currently11:16
dwidmannkword is a pretty good choice though11:16
makuseruyes, it did11:17
jhutchinsdethklok: I have an ipod shuffle, works fine with amarok.11:17
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emilcan someone say app that work as a dock like in OSX11:17
makuseruit was giving me a choice to open, so i fougured kate and kwrite wouldnt do it11:17
mindspin!codecs11:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:17
jhutchinsdethklok: I have a wireless card that's supported by linux drivers.11:17
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dethklokjhutchins, i havent really put much time into the ipod thing yet11:17
firecrotchdethklok: I have an iPod video which works fine, too11:17
vervewhy's #kubuntu and #ubuntu actually separate? i don't get it, heh11:17
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verveanyways11:17
dwidmannThey're not really seperate .... in a sesne11:18
makuseruemil: cooldock, kxdocker, kiba dock11:18
moparisthebestcan someone tell me where the grub configuration file is located?11:18
jhutchinsverve: kubuntu allows us to focus on stuff that's particular to the kde version.11:18
johannmoparis....... /boot/grub/menu.lst11:18
verveword11:18
moparisthebestthanks11:18
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: You can: locate menu.lst in console.11:18
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verveany ideas how to get KDE Crypto to accept an expired SSL cert?11:18
adamwesthye11:18
adamwesthey11:18
moparisthebestI didnt know what it was called either jhutchins, but I have it now :)11:18
emilok thx11:18
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: man grub might have told you.11:19
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makuseruhas anyone heard about Ubuntu Studio yet?11:19
jhutchinsmakuseru: Yes, but that's about all.11:19
firecrotch!Ubuntu Studio11:20
ubotuubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio11:20
makuserui didnt know their was an IRC room for it11:20
firecrotchNeither did I :)11:20
makuserui cant wait for it to launch11:20
emilhow do I get rid of all pop-ups when I hover a "button" in the application bar?11:20
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emil?11:21
jhutchinsemil: Right click, configure panel, Appearance, show tooltips.  (uncheck it)11:22
robinsw_Is there a front-end for WINE? Just installed WINE from the package manager11:22
firecrotchrobinsw_: there's winecfg for configuring it11:23
robinsw_Thanks11:23
cntbis beryl for edgy only ? not for dapper ?11:23
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firecrotchother than that, to run windows programs, you just use "wine /path/to/program.exe"11:23
jhutchinsrobinsw_: Look under More Applications/Emulators11:23
verveso is installing kubuntu-desktop and all related packages, from a normal Ubuntu install, the same as installing from the Kubuntu LiveCD?11:23
jhutchinsverve: Pretty much.11:24
firecrotchverve: not exactly11:24
jhutchinsverve: You'll have access to all the gnome stuff too.11:24
vervei love two different opinions side by side11:24
vervehaha11:24
jhutchinscntb: Beryl is really for feisty more than edgy.11:24
firecrotchverve: and it will still use gdm11:24
jhutchinsverve: It'll also use some other gnome components which a kubuntu install wouldn't.11:25
cntbjhutchins: dapper on this machine11:25
vervecan that be gotten rid of?11:25
verve(i switched to KDM, btw)11:25
unix_infidelanyone here running ubuntu on an ibook11:25
cntbso much for LTS long term support11:25
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jhutchinsverve: Yeah, I believe you can uninstall gnome-desktop.11:25
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jhutchinscntb: LTS doesn't include cutting edge no-use-but-amusement window managers.11:26
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jhutchinscntb: Beryl just BARELY works with the absolute latest related packages, recent hardware, and a good bit of luck.11:26
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robinsw_Anybody ever tried using Dreamweaver on WINE?11:26
cntbberyl may be a good rival to vista candies - 111:27
jhutchinscntb: If it ever gets stable, it might be possible to backport it.11:27
unix_infidelrobinsw_: it works fine.11:27
jhutchinscntb: It might not.11:27
dwidmannthe zoom and one of the other plugins were actually useful though jhutchins11:27
dwidmannexpose I think it was?11:27
cntbsome of Beryl tricks can increase productivity - 211:27
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sfpavelhow do i configure a FTP server ?11:27
jhutchinscntb: Yes, it might give you Vista-like eye candy, but you can't expect that on dapper any more than you can on XP, or 98.11:27
jhutchinsdwidmann: There are tools that will do that within kde.11:27
dwidmanndo tell11:28
sfpavelall i need is a link 2 a good tutorial pls11:28
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robinsw_Faaaantastic!11:28
robinsw_Why was I using Windows?!11:29
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cntbBTW XP can have those xcandies easilyif MS wanted11:29
cntbsorry offtopic11:29
jhutchinssfpavel: First thing you should know is that running an FTP server is the best way in the world to get hacked.11:29
jhutchinssfpavel: Better than unprotected windows.11:29
dwidmannrobinsw, I haven't, but quanta+ is pretty good :)11:29
moparisthebestin grub's menu.lst kubuntu has listed: root(hd0,0)11:29
robinsw_Is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up the Run dialog?11:30
moparisthebestbut the harddrive it is listed as in qtparted is sda11:30
sfpaveleven if i have certificates and crypted passwords?11:30
robinsw_I keep hitting Windows key + R XD11:30
dwidmannalt +f211:30
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robinsw_Great, thanks11:30
moparisthebestso how do I know what my other harddrives are named?11:30
sfpaveli want one bcuz i need stuff from my PC while i'm not at home11:30
jhutchinssfpavel: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/FTP.html11:30
sfpavelthanx11:30
cntbrobin dwidmann alt +f211:30
jhutchinssfpavel: FTP passes passwords in plaintext.11:30
sfpavelwhat security program do you recomand?11:30
cntbrobinsw_:11:30
jhutchinsI recommend running public ftp servers chrooted.11:31
dwidmannsfpavel: I recommend common sense11:31
kkerwinHi. I'm trying to setup a PAN between my computer and my bluetooth enabled phone. I have them connected, but I'm wondering how I can determine the phone's IP address in reference to the computer?11:31
jhutchinsWhen possible I eliminate ftp and use only scp.11:31
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dwidmannHmm, indeed, the chroot or a virtual machine11:32
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: they have both a bios id (0,0, etc) and a dev name (/dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.)11:32
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jhutchinsUsually you'll be referring to them as /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc.11:33
moparisthebesthow would I get the bios id to put in grub then jhutchins ?11:33
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: ide is /dev/hda, /dev/hdb.11:33
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: What partition are you looking for?11:33
moparisthebestgrub refers to sda as hd011:33
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Usually the installer does this correctly.11:33
moparisthebestI need sdb11:33
xtoxico!Xgl11:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:33
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Most likely that would be hd1,011:34
moparisthebestI tried that and it didnt work :/11:34
jhutchinsthe secondary number is the partition number, starting at 0.11:34
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: fdisk -l11:34
garryb!help11:34
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:34
jhutchinsWhich is your linux disk?11:34
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jhutchinsmoparisthebest: You want a partition, not just a disk.11:35
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TonrenOK, what's a good, simple, lightweight WYSIWYG editor for HTML documents?11:35
HymnToLife!nvu11:35
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB11:35
Gimmyjhutchins: what-s the composite manager?11:35
moparisthebestthere is only one partition on the disk jhutchins11:35
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: so you want sda1 or sdb1?11:35
moparisthebestfdisk -l does nothing11:35
moparisthebestsdb111:35
garryb!tell help to garryb11:35
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Really?11:35
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HymnToLifemoparisthebest, you need to run it with sudo11:35
moparisthebestsda1 is hd0,011:35
xtoxico!eclipse11:35
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB11:35
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jhutchinsmoparisthebest: I would think that would be hd1,0.11:36
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Try sdb111:36
moparisthebestok, Ill try it11:36
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: SATA?11:36
moparisthebestyes SATA11:36
moparisthebestIll be back after the reboot11:36
jhutchinsAh.  Trouble, especially if you have IDE as well.11:36
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jhutchinsmopar watch the boot screen carefully, it may tell you something useful when the BIOS loads.11:37
ravermeisterhello i have got a problem. i made an update of kde from kde3.5.4 to 3.5.511:38
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ravermeisterand now when i try to login, nothing happens until i restart x and type username and password again11:39
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ravermeisteranybody knows this problem? using kubuntu dapper11:39
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dwidmannravermeister: I've never heard of that problem before11:40
ravermeisteris there a possibility to say kdm he should re write his config files11:41
ravermeisterit appears just after the update11:41
TonrenAnyone?  Good WYSIWYG KDE HTML editor?11:41
TonrenThat was a mouthful11:41
emilanyone used KxDocker?11:41
dwidmanntonren: quanta+11:41
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Tonrendwidmann: thanks11:41
kkerwinHi. I'm trying to setup a PAN between my computer and my bluetooth enabled phone. I have them connected, but I'm wondering how I can determine the phone's IP address in reference to the computer?11:42
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kkerwinIf not, could someone point me to a bluez support channel. #bluez seems to be quiet, and I'm not sure if it's the right channel.11:43
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ravermeistercould there be something in the log files?11:43
kkerwinemil: Yes.11:43
ravermeisterif yes which one11:43
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xtoxico!KxDocker11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KxDocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:45
Jucato!kxdocker11:45
ravermeisternobody an idea :(11:45
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB11:45
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verveLinux rinzai 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:46
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vervesorry, didn't mean to post that, heh11:46
emilHow do I use it11:46
emilI start kxdocker but I dont see it when it's loaded11:46
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moparisthebestIs there a reason that when I boot up my desktop looks like Im using 256-bit color, then I hit ctrl-alt-backspace and everything goes back to normal?11:47
Nukedemil I cant even get it to start11:47
emil?11:47
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Nukedemil:  kxdocker refuses to start for me11:47
emilmine says loading application...11:47
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emilthen it disappears from the application bar11:48
emilso it doesnt start for me either11:48
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Nukedemil I believe the package is broken11:49
Nukedemil try running it in a terminal and pastebin the output11:49
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emilhow do I do that?11:51
Nuked!pastebin11:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:51
robinsw_Is there a task manager app installed with Kubuntu?11:51
robinsw_Need to kill a process11:51
moparisthebestjhutchins, I found exactly what I needed: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_boot_into_Windows_installed_on_a_seperate_SATA_drive11:51
Nukedwell you can get a list of running progs by using ps ax in a terminal11:52
Nukedand using kill -9 "process id"11:52
robinsw_Great11:52
robinsw_Thanks11:52
robinsw_Worked perfect :)11:53
Nukedglad to have been able to help11:53
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zorknodanyone up for a NIC car question?11:56
emilany other bar than kxdocker for kubuntu?11:57
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Nukedemil there is gnome-dock11:57
Nukedor if you have beryl kiba-dock11:57
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claudio_hi11:59
robinsw_Any idea why my download speeds seem to be a fraction of what they were with Windows?12:00
emilKubuntu running KDE?12:00
Kyral....no ****12:01
emilcan I download themes and style from http://www.kde-look.org and use them?12:01
emil^12:01
vervequestion: if i'm running Ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed, would i benefit from removing all the Gnome stuff?12:01
emil^^12:01
verveor is it a good idea to just leave it?12:01
Theoryverve: it's taking up disk space, but probably nothing else12:01
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robinsw_Does Linux run a defrag itself or will I need to sort this out?12:03
Kyralrobinsw_: The Linux Filesystems don't need defraging12:03
Kyralever12:03
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claudio_somebody know knetworkmanager a i need help12:04
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Kyralrobinsw_: Most of the usable filesystems on Unix based OSs take care of themselves. If they detect errors they will fix them the first chance they get12:05
Kyralrobinsw_: FAT32 is the exeception12:06
robinsw_Ah, gotcha12:06
robinsw_Thanks12:06
robinsw_Does Linux not have the problem of throwing everything onto a drive in any place it can, then?12:06
Kyralrobinsw_: I don't know exactly how they do it, but most of them have the concept of a "Journal"12:07
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Kyralhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext312:07
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