| LaserJock | what is? | 12:19 |
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| mdke | searching on irc handle | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | changing your username | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | oh really? | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | when will that go into effect? maybe tomorrow? | 12:19 |
| mdke | next rollout I guess, not sure | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | sweet, well then maybe I don't need to change it | 12:20 |
| mdke | no, you won't be cool until you change it | 12:20 |
| mdke | there's no fix-it-friday fix for that | 12:20 |
| === LaserJock <3 fix-it Fridays :-) | ||
| LarstiQ | LaserJock: or you could change your irc name ;) | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | tried that | 12:21 |
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| LaserJock | sistpoty cried that it changed his IRC nick coloring | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 12:22 |
| LarstiQ | haha | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | that and I just bought laserjock.us not long ago | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | it'd be a shame to get rid of my identity like that ;-) | 12:23 |
| LarstiQ | quite. | 12:23 |
| mdke | people shouldn't change their irc nicks | 12:23 |
| LarstiQ | does make me think of launchpad controlled domain switching | 12:23 |
| mdke | it's disconcerting | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | I think bhale has been the hardest one for me | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson's was good because I always got him and Keybuk mixed up | 12:24 |
| === mdke shakes head | ||
| LarstiQ | Kamion? | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | I still mixed them up after I met them, which is a real feat | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | since they look nothing alike | 12:25 |
| mdke | WHOA | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | LarstiQ: yeah | 12:25 |
| === LarstiQ tended to mix Colin Watson and Colin Walters | ||
| LaserJock | that makes sense :-) | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | but Colin and Scott? it must have been the irc nick that did it to me | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | although they were both archive admins and so they often were doing the same tasks | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | oh, since all that was OT I'll ask a real LP question. What do I need to do to remove a product and team? | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | is there a RT address for LP? | 12:27 |
| mdke | LaserJock: you need holy water, and a lot of luck | 12:27 |
| mdke | support ticket, but it can only be renamed | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | mdke: they should either not make them so easy to create or easier to get rid of | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 12:28 |
| mdke | the latter, definitely | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | I've got a product and team from a defunct project I was running | 12:29 |
| LaserJock | seems weird to just leave it there | 12:29 |
| === mdke nods | ||
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| mpt | thumper, please call me uneducated, then tell me how to apply kiko-afk's patch -- I used "patch -c < ./patch", and got "Only garbage was found in the patch input" | 02:46 |
| === LarstiQ usually gets away with patch -p0 < ./patch | ||
| LaserJock | yep | 02:48 |
| mpt | -u looks more promising, but still claims not to be able to find the paths | 02:48 |
| LarstiQ | mpt: sure it's a context diff? | 02:48 |
| mpt | Thank you LarstiQ | 02:48 |
| mpt | that worked | 02:48 |
| mpt | but I don't understand why | 02:48 |
| === LarstiQ wouldn't supply either -c or -u | ||
| mpt | Why isn't "-p0" a no-op? | 02:49 |
| mpt | Stripping 0 components from file names | 02:49 |
| LarstiQ | because otherwise it strips all | 02:50 |
| LarstiQ | no idea who considers that a sane default | 02:50 |
| mpt | strips all? madness | 02:50 |
| mpt | anyway, thanks :-) | 02:50 |
| LarstiQ | hysterical raisins I guess. | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | mpt: I was looking at Malone bug #1331 the other day and wondered what exactly you mean by "canned searches" | 02:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1331 in malone "Allow recording and use of canned searches" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331 | 02:52 |
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| imbrandon | ping $ROOM | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | anyone know of a way to tie the info from a group , say ubuntu-dev to the lp-id ? | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | e.g. if i wanted to cycle through them and then goto each lp-id's page and import their +sshkeys | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | i see nothing tieing the two in ~ubuntu-dev/+rdf | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | short of parsing the html output ( ugh ) | 03:34 |
| jamesh | we don't currently export the SSH keys in the RDF | 03:36 |
| jamesh | you could submit a bug report | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | kk | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | thanks | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | i'll parse the html for now and make a bug report ;) | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | even exporting the userid would work , but url to sshkey == better | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | :) | 03:47 |
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| mpt | yay for kernel panics | 03:54 |
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Developer meeting: Thu 25 Jan 2007, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by matthewrevell at Mon Jan 22 09:26:09 2007 | ||
| === #launchpad [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg | ||
| jamesh | network manager causes your computer to wake up 5 times a second to see if it has any timers worth handling | 04:56 |
| LarstiQ | update-notifier is also bad | 04:57 |
| jamesh | LarstiQ: the dhcdbd daemon that network-manager uses is particularly bad | 04:59 |
| jamesh | LarstiQ: in its mainloop, rather than sleeping til the next timer is ready to fire (or a file descriptor is ready for read/write), it wakes up every 0.2 seconds | 05:01 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #81082 in launchpad ""Australia/Perth" time zone needs updating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81082 | 07:35 |
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| LaserJock | hi matthewrevell | 08:01 |
| matthewrevell | LaserJock: Hi | 08:02 |
| matthewrevell | LaserJock: I'm just about to go into a meeting, could we talk in an hour? | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | matthewrevell: perhaps, it's getting late here | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | if I'm not still awake we can maybe chat tomorrow | 08:03 |
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| LaserJock | matthewrevell: how's the meeting? :-) | 09:24 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:28 |
| seb128 | hi carlos | 09:29 |
| matthewrevell | LaserJock: hey, all done. | 09:30 |
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| === mdke lols at the last comment on https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/2796 | ||
| mdke | how does someone end up being a support contact on Launchpad without knowing it? | 09:55 |
| mpt | yeah, that had me wondering too | 09:56 |
| mdke | also, who's the bbb? | 09:56 |
| mpt | Better Business Bureau, afaik | 09:56 |
| mpt | some USAmerican thing | 09:56 |
| mdke | I hope he sues your asses | 09:58 |
| mdke | more seriously, will you write to him, explaining, or shall I? | 09:59 |
| mpt | Lawsuit-enforced usability | 09:59 |
| mdke | LOL | 09:59 |
| mpt | I will when I get up to that message in my Inbox, unless someone else got there first | 09:59 |
| mdke | cool | 10:00 |
| Odd_Bloke | Could someone remind me how to push stuff unrelated to a project into my userspace? | 10:24 |
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| ddaa | Hello | 10:36 |
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| cprov | good morning ! | 11:03 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #81101 in malone "Ability to set milestones over email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81101 | 11:55 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Could someone remind me how to push stuff unrelated to a project into my userspace? | 12:04 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #73875 in rosetta "Project needs a Translations page" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73875 | 12:05 |
| lifeless | Odd_Bloke: what do you mean ? | 12:10 |
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| Odd_Bloke | lifeless: It is something along the lines of 'bzr push sftp://<username>@bazaar.launchpad.net:~<username>/+junk/<name>' but that throws an error. | 12:18 |
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| ddaa | 12:20 | |
| ddaa | sftp://<username>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<username>/+junk/<name>' but that throws an error. | 12:21 |
| Spads | 12:21 | |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: host:path is not a URL | 12:21 |
| ddaa | hu | 12:21 |
| ddaa | sftp://<username>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<username>/+junk/<name> should wold | 12:22 |
| Odd_Bloke | ddaa: Ah, that'll be the problem then. :p | 12:24 |
| === Odd_Bloke was using scp syntax. | ||
| Odd_Bloke | ddaa: Thanks. | 12:24 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: my pleasure | 12:24 |
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| givr1 | Hello launchpadien | 01:11 |
| givr1 | is it normal that downlading new translations could take more than 4 days ? | 01:11 |
| givr1 | i ask to download some before the weekend, and i didn't receive them yet | 01:12 |
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| givr1 | rosetta is probably on holiday... | 01:16 |
| givr1 | anyway, i'll apply the new translation manually... | 01:17 |
| givr1 | thanks | 01:17 |
| jordi | sigh | 01:23 |
| jordi | 6 minute holiday | 01:23 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81112 in launchpad "Not possible to report bugs in epiphany-extention-gwget in launchpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81112 | 01:25 |
| kiko-afk | hi | 01:27 |
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| kalikiana | I have a problem with launchpad: I want to download translations but I never get the email with the files. | 03:18 |
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| kiko | kalikiana, our exports are at the moment broken because of an issue in production; this is being investigated | 03:19 |
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| kalikiana | kiko: Good to know at least. Does this have to do with the errors I get every fourth time I click a link? | 03:20 |
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| kiko | kalikiana, what OOPS id? | 03:23 |
| kalikiana | kiko: I don't have it open anymore, I may hit you when I get it again - as always I can't reproduce the error now that I tell you :/ | 03:33 |
| kiko | heh | 03:33 |
| kiko | we get it in the daily oops report, don't worry. | 03:33 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #81127 in malone "multiple spaces collapsed in bug display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81127 | 04:35 |
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| kiko-fud | dupe | 04:36 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81129 in soyuz "contents-$arch.gz header text needs a review" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81129 | 04:45 |
| kiko-fud | LarstiQ, did you see danilos' review? | 04:49 |
| LarstiQ | kiko-fud: yes, haven't had a chance to respond yet | 04:49 |
| kiko-fud | LarstiQ, your issue is actually easy to handle | 04:50 |
| kiko-fud | anyway, fud | 04:50 |
| LarstiQ | kiko-fud: I had the feeling we were talking past each other | 04:50 |
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| kiko | LarstiQ, maybe, but I think I understood what you needed | 05:37 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #81134 in malone "Should be able to remove/hide comments from a bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81134 | 05:45 |
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| kiko | dupe | 05:49 |
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| phlackee | I'm having :Timeout error on registration | 06:43 |
| phlackee | ?? | 06:43 |
| beuno | phlackee, "Launchpad is offline at the moment for maintenance. It should be back, better than ever, soon. Thanks for your patience." | 06:45 |
| beuno | maybe that has something to do with it | 06:45 |
| phlackee | thank you beuno | 06:45 |
| beuno | np ;) | 06:45 |
| phlackee | 503 Service Unavailable | 06:45 |
| phlackee | ;) | 06:46 |
| phlackee | will be back today or ... | 06:46 |
| beuno | phlackee, you can be sure it will | 06:48 |
| beuno | I'd say (I have nothing to back this up), about 30 minutes or so | 06:48 |
| phlackee | cool | 06:48 |
| beuno | sounds like an update to the code, nothing special | 06:48 |
| phlackee | thanks again | 06:48 |
| phlackee | ;) | 06:48 |
| beuno | np++ | 06:49 |
| kiko | should be back in a bit. | 06:51 |
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| LaserJock | carlos: you around? I was just reading the log about .desktop translations on Rosetta | 07:24 |
| carlos | LaserJock: I'm around, yes | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | carlos: seb128 talked about getting .desktops translated | 07:25 |
| LarstiQ | kiko: with "we" I meant danilo and I, to be clear | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | I'm largely responsible for his "frustration" there | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | but this also came up with another spec I'm working on | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | I want to get .directory files translated as well | 07:26 |
| carlos | .directory are .desktop files with a different name | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | yep | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | but my comment was that these are a relatively small amount of packages that we are talking about | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | so I kinda feel like "langpacks-for-universe" is a bit overkill for solving this more immediate problem | 07:27 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, I think danilos understood you too. :-) | 07:28 |
| carlos | LaserJock: well, the I sent a proposal to MOTUs to allow some universe packages imported | 07:29 |
| carlos | that would be a way to ship those translations in the mean time, but it depends completely on MOTU people taking care of moving back from Rosetta to packages those translations | 07:30 |
| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | carlos: put do we need to import the whole package? | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | as seb suggested, can we just have a .desktop "place"? | 07:32 |
| kiko | hey mpt | 07:33 |
| kiko | you got mail | 07:33 |
| mpt | yeah, piles of it | 07:33 |
| mpt | :-) | 07:33 |
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| LaserJock | carlos: if you could maybe send -motu another email with some more details. We had a MOTU meeting yesterday to discuss your email but nobody really knew what it involved | 07:34 |
| carlos | LaserJock: at the moment, you need to use intltool to get a .pot file from the .desktop and .directory files | 07:44 |
| carlos | LaserJock: we don't have native support for those files | 07:44 |
| carlos | mdke: hmmm, which email? | 07:45 |
| carlos | mdke: direct or thru a mailing list? | 07:45 |
| mdke | carlos: direct | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | carlos: well, I'd even take that, that should be easily scriptable | 07:45 |
| mdke | about pot templates for ubuntu-docs | 07:45 |
| carlos | mdke: I think I missed it... when did you send it? | 07:45 |
| carlos | oh, right | 07:45 |
| carlos | that one | 07:45 |
| mdke | carlos: weekend | 07:45 |
| carlos | I read it and forgot to answer... | 07:45 |
| mdke | :) | 07:45 |
| carlos | mdke: let me look for it... | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | carlos: I think the thing is most MOTUs have no interaction with Rosetta so we don't even know what we *can* do, or how to do it | 07:46 |
| carlos | LaserJock: most GNOME packages do it already | 07:46 |
| carlos | LaserJock: I know, and I just realised that I missed yesterday's meeting | 07:46 |
| carlos | that I was supposed to attend to talk about Rosetta... | 07:46 |
| carlos | grrr... | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | carlos: np, it was sort of short notice | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | I think for right now doing translating the whole of Universe would be a bit daunting ;-) | 07:47 |
| carlos | mdke: so, about the change | 07:47 |
| carlos | mdke: is it just a path change? | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | even whole packages might be hard because we would have to decide what packages to translate | 07:47 |
| mdke | carlos: sorry? | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | perhaps doing .desktop files would be a good way to ease into it | 07:48 |
| carlos | mdke: the ubuntu-doc change | 07:48 |
| carlos | mdke: is just that you moved the .pot files to another path | 07:49 |
| carlos | or file splits and things like that | 07:49 |
| carlos | or renames | 07:49 |
| mdke | carlos: everything | 07:49 |
| carlos | LaserJock: we could accept a .pot file and import it myself | 07:49 |
| carlos | so you get all those in a single place | 07:49 |
| carlos | but that's not something I'm too happy with... | 07:50 |
| mpt | hmmm, I have yet to master the art of working some of the same time as matthewrevell | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | carlos: yeah, that would be too much work for you | 07:50 |
| carlos | LaserJock: let me think on it ok? | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | carlos: sure, np | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | carlos: thanks for looking into at least | 07:50 |
| carlos | mdke: I'm just thinking about the way to reuse the templates from edgy | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | this .desktop thing has been a problem for us | 07:51 |
| carlos | mdke: if you link current one with a new one, I can handle that | 07:51 |
| mdke | carlos: yeah. there is a lot of previous material used | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | we'd like to have menu items for users, but they really should be translated | 07:51 |
| carlos | LaserJock: indeed | 07:51 |
| mdke | carlos: how do you mean "link"? | 07:51 |
| carlos | just tell me the mapping | 07:51 |
| mdke | carlos: ok, I should be able to do that. Mostly it's desktopguide -> * | 07:52 |
| carlos | and when we get the ones from Feisty, I will handle it | 07:52 |
| carlos | oh... | 07:52 |
| carlos | it's a 1 -> 1 relation | 07:52 |
| carlos | 1 -> n is not possible right now... | 07:52 |
| mdke | no, 1 -> 8 | 07:52 |
| mdke | ish | 07:52 |
| mdke | hmm | 07:53 |
| carlos | that should be handled manually, importing the .po files splitted already | 07:53 |
| carlos | don't you have that already done? | 07:53 |
| carlos | I mean, in svn | 07:54 |
| mdke | carlos: no, I haven't touched any edgy translations in relation to feisty | 07:54 |
| carlos | so your svn lacks any translation, right? | 07:54 |
| mdke | I've got the po files in our edgy branch, not in the feisty branch | 07:54 |
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| carlos | well, I was talking about your feisty svn branch | 07:56 |
| mdke | no, we haven't got anything in there, I only just made the pot files | 07:56 |
| carlos | ok | 07:57 |
| carlos | so, the best thing is | 07:57 |
| carlos | get a full export from Rosetta | 07:57 |
| carlos | and merge the .po files with your .pot files | 07:57 |
| mdke | I have the edgy po files | 07:57 |
| carlos | and reimport that | 07:57 |
| mdke | ok. I have no idea how to do that :) | 07:57 |
| carlos | mdke: well, I guess Rosetta would have updated files | 07:57 |
| mdke | oh, sure | 07:58 |
| carlos | mdke: either danilo or me would be able to help you with that task | 07:58 |
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| carlos | just tell use when do you want to do it and we will prepare the commands for you | 07:58 |
| danilos | mdke: sure, emailing any of us can do as well (since I like to test the commands before I give them to you :)) | 07:58 |
| mdke | I should arrange for one of you to have svn access maybe | 07:59 |
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| carlos | mdke: well, with read only access should be enough | 08:16 |
| mdke | carlos: ah, well you can get it already. | 08:16 |
| mdke | the other question was whether it's ok to have the pot files all in one directory... it's more convenient for me | 08:16 |
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| carlos | LaserJock: next MOTU meeting is when I'm in a launchpad meeting at .br so I'm not completely sure whether I will be able to attend it... | 08:17 |
| carlos | mdke: it's fine but, where will you put the .po files? | 08:17 |
| mdke | carlos: I don't know. Good point. | 08:18 |
| carlos | mdke: that only means we will need to link any .po file you include in your tree with the right template (just the first time) | 08:18 |
| mdke | carlos: you know, I might make one big pot file instead for all the documents, that would work better I suppose | 08:18 |
| carlos | the only problem with that | 08:18 |
| carlos | is that people will not be able to work on it at the same time | 08:19 |
| carlos | in offline mode | 08:19 |
| carlos | online is possible, but a bit difficult to handle | 08:19 |
| mdke | well, they worked ok on desktopguide.pot, right? | 08:20 |
| mdke | this wouldn't be *that* much bigger, although it would be bigger | 08:20 |
| carlos | oh, I thought you were talking about merging every single .pot file | 08:21 |
| mdke | I need to have a think about this stuff | 08:22 |
| carlos | ok, feel free to ask us anything you need | 08:22 |
| mdke | thanks | 08:23 |
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| gnomefreak | is it just me or is everyones karma staying the same (i would say atleast since friday the 19th | 09:31 |
| mdke | gnomefreak: I believe so | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | mine never seems to change much | 09:39 |
| kiko | mpt, ping? | 09:40 |
| kiko | gnomefreak, nightly.sh was busted. It should run tonight | 09:40 |
| gnomefreak | kiko: ty | 09:41 |
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| mpt | kiko, yo | 09:55 |
| kiko | mpt! | 09:55 |
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| kiko | mpt, so, I have a new popup window patch for you. | 09:56 |
| mpt | kiko, you referred to it in your message, but there was no patch | 09:56 |
| mpt | have you mailed it since? | 09:56 |
| kiko | not yet | 09:56 |
| LarstiQ | mpt: by Tollef? | 09:56 |
| kiko | mpt, https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filef6JJKU.html | 09:56 |
| mpt | LarstiQ, no, some random guy's port to XChat | 09:56 |
| mpt | http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/contentlessping-xchat.html | 09:57 |
| mpt | it loads successfully, it just hasn't done anything yet | 09:57 |
| mpt | thanks kiko, I'll have another look | 09:57 |
| LarstiQ | mpt: ah, Dann Frazier. | 09:59 |
| mpt | Perhaps I need to un-comment the comments at the end... | 10:00 |
| kiko | mpt? | 10:01 |
| mpt | ? | 10:01 |
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| kiko | what comments? | 10:02 |
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| mpt | kiko, er, the comments at the end of http://dannf.org/src/contentlessping.py | 10:03 |
| mpt | Sorry, two conversations at once | 10:03 |
| kiko | ah | 10:04 |
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| kiko | LarstiQ, so let me get this straight. | 10:22 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, what you want is a POFile that you can submit upstream that contains translations made to Ubuntu packages by people that have signed a copyright agreement with upstream? | 10:23 |
| kiko | and nobody else? | 10:23 |
| kiko | to Ubuntu OOO packages | 10:23 |
| kiko | I emant. | 10:23 |
| kiko | meant. doh. | 10:23 |
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| LarstiQ | kiko: that would be workable I guess. | 10:24 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, is there something you'd prefer? | 10:24 |
| === LarstiQ will have to ponder that a bit | ||
| LarstiQ | kiko: I want to prevent http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2006-08/0916.shtml | 10:25 |
| LarstiQ | where a translator has gone through some effort but is turned down | 10:25 |
| mdke | surely simply the translation being the copyright of the translator will work | 10:26 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: yup, but with more than one.. | 10:26 |
| mdke | meh. "The Subversion Project only accepts code whose | 10:27 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, well, the /compilation/ is in fact copyright canonical | 10:27 |
| mdke | copyright is assigned to CollabNet" | 10:27 |
| kiko | given we produced it | 10:27 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: exactly. If they accepted bsd licensed translations there would be no problem at all. | 10:27 |
| kiko | but the individual translations are copyrighted by the original translators | 10:27 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, part of the plan is to clarify this as well. | 10:27 |
| mdke | LarstiQ: well there still would - it's the copyright they have a problem with, not the license | 10:28 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: that is my point :) | 10:28 |
| mdke | they need the copyright to be assigned to them | 10:28 |
| mdke | silly unreasonable people | 10:28 |
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| LarstiQ | mja, Sun and FSF do it too | 10:28 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, so would it be enough if we could guarantee that a) the file only contained translations made by people in a specific team and b) the copyright header clarified the above | 10:28 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, note we already have a translation team for the FSF which contains people who have signed copyright agreements. | 10:29 |
| mdke | man what a drag | 10:29 |
| kiko | so we'd just have to set up a parallel to this for OOO | 10:29 |
| LarstiQ | kiko: ok, no problems with them then | 10:29 |
| LarstiQ | kiko: and CollabNet supposedly | 10:29 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, if there were enough people interested, sure. | 10:29 |
| kiko | is that a workable solution? | 10:29 |
| mdke | so that means Ubuntu translations can't go upstream, given that the Ubuntu translators haven't signed such agreements | 10:30 |
| Seveas | is bugmail broken? Haven't seen one since 17:38 | 10:30 |
| kiko | Seveas, might be. this sucks. | 10:30 |
| LarstiQ | kiko: I tried second guessing intentions before by asking if BSD was enough, that failed. So now I check to make sure signing over copyright would work, other solutions I don't dare endorse. | 10:31 |
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| LarstiQ | mdke: yup | 10:31 |
| mdke | that sucks | 10:31 |
| Seveas | kiko, hrm, that makes testing ubugtu rather difficult :/ | 10:31 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: and gives rise to friction | 10:31 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, some projects have their own policies. | 10:31 |
| kiko | or all projects do | 10:31 |
| kiko | my point is we just need to cope | 10:31 |
| LarstiQ | Seveas: how much work would it be to have ubugtu do it's magic new bug announce in #bzr? | 10:32 |
| mdke | LarstiQ: right, but it's not Ubuntu's fault, it's upstream insisting on not accepting free material | 10:32 |
| Seveas | LarstiQ, very little once I can debug him with new mail | 10:32 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: not everyone agrees with that view | 10:32 |
| LarstiQ | Seveas: k | 10:33 |
| kiko | Seveas, hold one, pinged elmo to help | 10:33 |
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| mdke | LarstiQ: well, no offense, but if material is released under a wholly free license, they still aren't interested because they *need* to drag the copyright away from the authors? | 10:33 |
| mdke | only public domain material would work | 10:33 |
| mdke | anyway. | 10:34 |
| Seveas | mdke, subversion isn't the only project that has this policy | 10:34 |
| mdke | Seveas: LarstiQ has said that | 10:34 |
| Seveas | glibc and probably many other gnu projects have the same policy | 10:34 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: arguably, copyright assignment is a very sensible thing to do | 10:34 |
| Seveas | it makes things lik changing licenses easier | 10:35 |
| mdke | Seveas: that's the whole point of the translations being bsd | 10:35 |
| kiko | changing licenses is evil | 10:35 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: see the current issues incase Linus would want the kernel to switch to GPL v3 | 10:35 |
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| LarstiQ | mdke: no, you can not change the license on bsd works | 10:36 |
| LarstiQ | it's compatible with a whole lot though | 10:36 |
| mdke | you can use a compatible license, which is all of them | 10:36 |
| LarstiQ | mdke: but you can't add extra restrictions | 10:36 |
| mdke | why would you? they're translations | 10:36 |
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| carlos | night!! | 10:37 |
| LarstiQ | I don't think arguing that point will work :/ | 10:37 |
| LarstiQ | perhaps I shouldn't be so sensitive to people bashing lp/ubuntu | 10:39 |
| mdke | bash em back | 10:39 |
| Seveas | an eye for an eye and we'll all be blind | 10:40 |
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| kiko | Seveas, fixed. | 11:02 |
| Seveas | nice | 11:02 |
| kiko | I'm going to fix that for good now | 11:02 |
| Seveas | now I can fix ubugtu :) | 11:03 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #73875 in rosetta "Project needs a Translations page" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73875 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78454 in launchpad "polls workflow when not voting is surprising" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78454 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79674 in rosetta "List translatable upstreams on separate page, sample on front page" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79674 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #80244 in malone "Bugwatch update script failed to parse XML description" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80244 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #80527 in launchpad "The RDF Metadata provided don't have the WOT namespace" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80527 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81129 in soyuz "contents-$arch.gz header text needs a review" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81129 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81134 in malone "Should be able to remove/hide comments from a bug (dup-of: 1734)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81134 | 11:06 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81158 in rosetta "Greek language name shouldn't be "Greek, Modern (1453-)"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81158 | 11:06 |
| Seveas | whoppa | 11:06 |
| Seveas | stupid bot | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | watch the flood roll in | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | aw | 11:06 |
| Seveas | otherwise it would have quit for excess flood ;) | 11:06 |
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| Seveas | there we go | 11:11 |
| Seveas | will happen a few more times I expect | 11:11 |
| Seveas | lp is now flooding my mailserver with new bugs :) | 11:11 |
| Seveas | LarstiQ, poke | 11:12 |
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| LarstiQ | Seveas: ready to go? | 11:15 |
| Seveas | LarstiQ, no | 11:15 |
| LarstiQ | hehe, ook goed :) | 11:16 |
| Seveas | bzr on launchpad will need a bug contact | 11:16 |
| Seveas | a group which ubugtu can join | 11:16 |
| Seveas | or just ubugtu if noone else wants to receive bzr bugs | 11:16 |
| LarstiQ | that's the registrant currently | 11:16 |
| Seveas | Bug contact: | 11:16 |
| Seveas | Not yet assigned | 11:16 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81023 in launchpad "Launchpad copyright year range should include 2007" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81023 | 11:16 |
| LarstiQ | I know, but it falls back to the registrant, which is an open team | 11:17 |
| LarstiQ | Seveas: but let me ask what Martin thinks of this | 11:17 |
| Seveas | ah, ok | 11:17 |
| Seveas | then I'll just let ubugtu join that team | 11:17 |
| LarstiQ | sure, that should work | 11:18 |
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| LarstiQ | would I make any chance with a bug requestion that the all bugs ever reported url was less ugly than https://launchpad.net/bzr/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=Unconfirmed&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Needs+Info&field.status=Fix+Committed&field.status=Fix+Released&field.status=Rejected&field.omit_dupes.used= ? | 11:23 |
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| LaserJock | LarstiQ: :-) , I'm sure there is a bug report about that | 11:34 |
| LarstiQ | LaserJock: probably :) | 11:34 |
| mpt | LarstiQ, actually, I don't think there is | 11:40 |
| mpt | Perhaps one day we'll have a "status:" operator with a "status:all" value | 11:41 |
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| jamesh | mpt: that shouldn't be too difficult to implement ... | 11:43 |
| jamesh | the gnome guys did it for bugzilla.gnome.org (boogle) | 11:43 |
| mpt | It's one of the things specified in my SearchingBugs spec | 11:44 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #81187 in soyuz "giveback fails to run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81187 | 12:00 |
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