| Crazytales2 | neuratix: ping | 12:12 |
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| neuratix | are you using xgl or something? | 12:13 |
| Crazytales2 | i don't know | 12:16 |
| Crazytales2 | I'm using whatever downloading the nvidia binary drivers got me. | 12:16 |
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| Crazytales2 | !slune | 12:22 |
| ubotu | slune: 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-1 (edgy), package size 10441 kB, installed size 25828 kB | 12:23 |
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| mwalsh | ok here | 03:13 |
| mnoir | this is a public place for longer discussions | 03:13 |
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| mwalsh | i see | 03:14 |
| mnoir | that others might want to see and also used as a lecture hall :) | 03:14 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:14 |
| mnoir | you want to start? | 03:14 |
| mwalsh | so big problems on the ubuntu front lol | 03:14 |
| mwalsh | yessir | 03:14 |
| mnoir | first - is your hardware fairly modern? very new? odd in any way? | 03:14 |
| mwalsh | built my rig in november, its really nice yes | 03:15 |
| mnoir | ok - very new | 03:15 |
| mnoir | you know what a bathtub curve is? | 03:15 |
| mwalsh | no. | 03:15 |
| mnoir | a statistical thingie that says in this case | 03:15 |
| mnoir | that the very old and the very new hardware | 03:16 |
| mnoir | are more prone to problems than the medium :) | 03:16 |
| kiamo | lol | 03:16 |
| kiamo | how did it get its name... | 03:16 |
| mnoir | looks loke the cross section of an old fashioned bathtub | 03:16 |
| mnoir | actually plots hardware failures | 03:17 |
| mwalsh | i dont think this is a hardware based problem yet | 03:17 |
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| mnoir | mwalsh: the reason i mention it is cuz you mentioned HAL problems | 03:17 |
| mwalsh | mhm | 03:17 |
| mwalsh | which stands for | 03:17 |
| mwalsh | that wasnt the only problem im having though | 03:17 |
| mnoir | but we hold that point until evidence shows :) | 03:17 |
| mnoir | ok - maybe i should let you list like the 5 big problems, i will not comment yet :) | 03:18 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:18 |
| mwalsh | 1. Failed to initialize HAL On startup | 03:18 |
| mwalsh | 2. WHen I try to play movies it says TOtem could not start up cannot open resource for writing | 03:19 |
| mwalsh | 3. MY external hard drive only shows up when i do the ctrl. alt. backspace thing | 03:19 |
| mwalsh | 4. My other internal hard drive wont show up at all | 03:19 |
| mwalsh | 5. NOt all needed resolutions are listed and teh sound card isnt recognized. | 03:19 |
| mnoir | 6.06 or 6.10 ? | 03:20 |
| mwalsh | 6.10 | 03:20 |
| eternalswd | one thing, need to check if dbus is running, also is this a dist-upgrade or fresh? | 03:20 |
| mwalsh | fresh | 03:20 |
| mnoir | have you tried 6.06 | 03:20 |
| mnoir | ? | 03:20 |
| mwalsh | nah, last one i used was hoary | 03:20 |
| mwalsh | lol | 03:20 |
| mnoir | how good are you in unix? | 03:20 |
| mnoir | just a question.... | 03:21 |
| mnoir | :) | 03:21 |
| mwalsh | im a windows person, complete nub at unix | 03:21 |
| mnoir | k :) | 03:21 |
| mnoir | lets take the easy ones first | 03:21 |
| eternalswd | for reference, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17876 | 03:21 |
| mwalsh | lets. | 03:21 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: ref to which #? | 03:22 |
| eternalswd | 1. | 03:22 |
| mnoir | ok - can i investigate 4 first? | 03:22 |
| mwalsh | sure | 03:22 |
| eternalswd | no problem. might want to check and see if dbus-daemon is runnning on his computer though, just a thought | 03:22 |
| mnoir | for 4 what kind of filesystem(s), what have you done to try to see them? | 03:22 |
| mwalsh | aah why cant i scroll up? | 03:22 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:23 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: i was thinking - could this affect the other problems? | 03:23 |
| eternalswd | possibly | 03:23 |
| mwalsh | uh the hard drive is ntfs | 03:23 |
| mnoir | ok - short time on 4 then you get to lead on 1 :) | 03:23 |
| mnoir | ok? | 03:23 |
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| eternalswd | yep | 03:24 |
| kiamo | mnoir, please can you help me after :D | 03:24 |
| mnoir | ok - mwalsh - what have you done to try to see your ntfs drive? | 03:24 |
| mwalsh | i cried | 03:25 |
| mnoir | did you see it during install? | 03:25 |
| mwalsh | yes | 03:25 |
| mnoir | uncle bill doesn't care if you cried :) | 03:25 |
| mwalsh | yeah | 03:25 |
| mnoir | nice thing about this channel - we can flood a little :) | 03:25 |
| mnoir | please cat out your /etc/fstab and paste the line that says ntfs in it | 03:26 |
| eternalswd | hmm, might want to check df to make sure it's not mounted. could be the gui just isn't aware | 03:26 |
| mnoir | paste here i mean | 03:26 |
| mnoir | could be - in a term | 03:26 |
| mnoir | type df | 03:26 |
| mnoir | mwalsh: i mean you - in a terminal type df and return | 03:26 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:26 |
| mwalsh | haha | 03:26 |
| mwalsh | now wat | 03:27 |
| mnoir | what came back at you? | 03:27 |
| mwalsh | a bunch of listtings | 03:27 |
| eternalswd | might want df -t ntfs? | 03:27 |
| mwalsh | my internal hd isnt there | 03:27 |
| mwalsh | it only has sda1 and sdc1, my external | 03:27 |
| mwalsh | not sdb | 03:27 |
| mnoir | oh - I see | 03:28 |
| mwalsh | mhm | 03:28 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: good call - is sdb supposed to be the ntfs? | 03:28 |
| mwalsh | it is | 03:28 |
| eternalswd | let me check, I've got one | 03:28 |
| mnoir | not there at all - it is a usb external? | 03:28 |
| mwalsh | ok sdc is the usb external, and that shows up... my sdb is my internal ntfs and it doesnt show up | 03:29 |
| mnoir | oh - I see - so ext is showing up? | 03:29 |
| mwalsh | yes | 03:29 |
| mnoir | so we need to check why the ntfs is not showing up - first the config | 03:30 |
| mwalsh | the ntfs external is showing up | 03:30 |
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| mnoir | paste the line that references it | 03:30 |
| mwalsh | /dev/sdc1 | 03:30 |
| mnoir | whole line - i need the other end :) | 03:31 |
| mwalsh | /dev/sdc1 78148160 13427600 64720560 18% /media/Ext. H | 03:31 |
| eternalswd | hmm, I just noticed that my ntfs partition isn't mounted. probably the same problem. I never noticed since it's just a small partition for windows | 03:31 |
| eternalswd | this may be a larger problem, goes off to google. | 03:32 |
| mnoir | eww- that Ext. H looks ugly | 03:32 |
| mwalsh | y | 03:32 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: come back soon - you're valuable :) | 03:32 |
| mnoir | mwalsh: cd /media please | 03:32 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:32 |
| mnoir | so that is the external which is showing up, not the problem drive | 03:33 |
| mwalsh | yes.. | 03:33 |
| mnoir | ok - have you looked at files there - you happy with that one | 03:33 |
| mnoir | we are slightly distracted but it is all good learning :) | 03:33 |
| mwalsh | kind of | 03:34 |
| mnoir | meaning?? | 03:34 |
| mwalsh | well the video files on there wont open | 03:34 |
| mwalsh | but thats a differenr problem. | 03:34 |
| mnoir | different problem - i agree - add to the list :) | 03:34 |
| mnoir | ok - back to the bad one | 03:34 |
| mwalsh | it was on the list | 03:34 |
| mnoir | ok - :) | 03:35 |
| mnoir | lets go back to 4. | 03:35 |
| mwalsh | mhm | 03:35 |
| eternalswd | okay, I didn't have any problems manually mounting the ntfs drive. should be able to at least test whether that works | 03:35 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: we are about to check to see what to mount. | 03:35 |
| eternalswd | ok | 03:36 |
| mnoir | mwalsh: please type cat /etc/fstab | 03:36 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:36 |
| eternalswd | cat /etc/fstab | grep ntfs might help | 03:36 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: i never can get the perms stuff right on other ppl's systems and never have the problem myself so stand by ! | 03:36 |
| mnoir | ok - file aint that long - if it is on the screen, paste the line with ntfs in it | 03:37 |
| mwalsh | i did | 03:37 |
| mwalsh | nothing happened | 03:37 |
| mnoir | did what? | 03:37 |
| mwalsh | i pasted that line | 03:37 |
| mwalsh | with the ntfs | 03:37 |
| mnoir | from the fstab? | 03:38 |
| mwalsh | cat /etc/fstab | grep ntfs | 03:38 |
| eternalswd | okay, that would be a problem. this is a second drive right, not a second partition? | 03:38 |
| mnoir | no output - that means the install did not add it | 03:38 |
| mwalsh | correct | 03:38 |
| mwalsh | its a second drive | 03:38 |
| eternalswd | ls /dev | grep sdb | 03:38 |
| eternalswd | to see if it's detected at least | 03:39 |
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| mwalsh | it says sdb and sdb1 | 03:39 |
| mnoir | so sdb1 is a partition | 03:40 |
| eternalswd | good, it's detected. let's first manually mount it, then we'll add a line to your fstab so it "should" mount on boot | 03:40 |
| eternalswd | yes | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | well its like an 8mb partitions | 03:40 |
| eternalswd | sdb is the drive and 1 is the partition | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | partition* | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | yes | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | yeah | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | i guess | 03:40 |
| mwalsh | so how do i mount this sucka | 03:41 |
| mnoir | on the win side it only has one drive letter? | 03:41 |
| mwalsh | yes! | 03:41 |
| eternalswd | first decide on where you want to mount it to | 03:41 |
| mwalsh | wat? | 03:41 |
| mnoir | may i make a suggestion? | 03:41 |
| eternalswd | you could choose a directory like /media/windows | 03:41 |
| mnoir | you need to mount it in a place that sounds meaningful to you | 03:42 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:42 |
| eternalswd | exactly | 03:42 |
| mwalsh | /media/storage | 03:42 |
| mnoir | what is on it? | 03:42 |
| mwalsh | thats wut i want | 03:42 |
| mwalsh | /media/storage | 03:42 |
| eternalswd | ok | 03:42 |
| mnoir | sounds ok | 03:42 |
| eternalswd | mkdir /media/storage | 03:42 |
| eternalswd | from term | 03:42 |
| mwalsh | it says permission denied | 03:43 |
| eternalswd | ok | 03:43 |
| eternalswd | sudo mkdir /media/storage | 03:43 |
| mwalsh | do ig otta be root | 03:43 |
| mnoir | sudo pls | 03:43 |
| eternalswd | then it will ask for your user password | 03:43 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:43 |
| mwalsh | typed it in | 03:43 |
| mnoir | sorry - not looking :) | 03:43 |
| mwalsh | pressed enter | 03:43 |
| eternalswd | pressed enter for the password? | 03:44 |
| mwalsh | after i typed my password | 03:44 |
| mnoir | and it came right back? | 03:44 |
| mwalsh | it created it | 03:44 |
| mnoir | good | 03:44 |
| mnoir | have you heard the term mount point? | 03:44 |
| eternalswd | sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/storage/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 | 03:44 |
| mwalsh | yes ive heard of mount points | 03:45 |
| mwalsh | do i put that in terminal eternal? | 03:45 |
| eternalswd | yeah, all of it on one line | 03:45 |
| mnoir | eternalswd: why the slash after storage? | 03:45 |
| mwalsh | aaah im confused | 03:45 |
| eternalswd | not necessary | 03:45 |
| mnoir | oh - I see | 03:45 |
| mnoir | mwalsh: ask b4 typing then | 03:46 |
| mwalsh | t just spat a whole bunch of crap at me | 03:46 |
| eternalswd | was just force of habit of typing paths in the terminal all day long ;) | 03:46 |
| mnoir | :) | 03:46 |
| mnoir | paste here? | 03:46 |
| mwalsh | well i think its becaue all that stuff wasnt on one line | 03:46 |
| mnoir | must be! - do again | 03:47 |
| eternalswd | ahh, that'll be problematic | 03:47 |
| mwalsh | well | 03:47 |
| mwalsh | it doesnt fit | 03:47 |
| mnoir | impossible - the line goes on forever - do not worry about it wrapping | 03:47 |
| eternalswd | well, as long as you didn't hit enter, it's on one line, it's just been wrapped | 03:47 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:47 |
| mwalsh | ok its good | 03:47 |
| mwalsh | noting happend | 03:47 |
| mnoir | you can also make the terminal wider if you like :) | 03:48 |
| eternalswd | what was spewed out? | 03:48 |
| mnoir | came back to prompt? | 03:48 |
| mwalsh | yeah | 03:48 |
| mnoir | probably worked - unix is quiet like that :) | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | yeah | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | it did | 03:49 |
| mnoir | cd to /media/storage | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | i test this stuff by just pasting it again and if it says its alredy happening i assuem | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | cd /storage | 03:49 |
| mnoir | uuh - that can be dangerous | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | lol | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | oops | 03:49 |
| mwalsh | ok i cd'd | 03:49 |
| eternalswd | ls | 03:50 |
| mnoir | what does ls show? | 03:50 |
| eternalswd | list of files and directories | 03:50 |
| mnoir | yours? | 03:50 |
| mwalsh | yep | 03:50 |
| mwalsh | works | 03:50 |
| eternalswd | lol, I thought your were asking for explanation, got the student and teacher mixed up lol | 03:50 |
| mwalsh | umm i still cant navigate to it yet | 03:51 |
| mnoir | :) | 03:51 |
| mnoir | mwalsh: what do you mean - in a gui? | 03:51 |
| mwalsh | yes | 03:51 |
| eternalswd | okay, first let's edit your fstab, then we'll move onto 1. that may fix it | 03:51 |
| mnoir | nautilus should be able to get there... | 03:52 |
| mwalsh | um. | 03:52 |
| mwalsh | i go to places | 03:52 |
| mwalsh | and computer | 03:52 |
| mwalsh | and nothing involving it is there | 03:52 |
| mnoir | patience - eternalswd may be on to something | 03:53 |
| mnoir | sorry - i gotta get up early to feed the sheep - looks like you are in good hands :)) | 03:53 |
| mwalsh | feed the sheep? | 03:53 |
| mnoir | l8r | 03:53 |
| mwalsh | where do you live | 03:54 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, the menu hasn't detected it, but if you go to your home directory in nautilus, just click the folder up button and navigate to the root / and then open media and then storage | 03:54 |
| mnoir | they refuse to write code without hay and grain | 03:54 |
| mwalsh | haha | 03:54 |
| mnoir | l8r :) | 03:54 |
| mwalsh | thanks man | 03:54 |
| mnoir | et - swat teaming is fun! | 03:54 |
| mwalsh | none of that stuff is in root | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | oh | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | storage is here | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | sweet1 | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | how do i get it to appear tho | 03:55 |
| eternalswd | all in due time | 03:55 |
| eternalswd | first let's edit your fstab so that it mounts at boot | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:55 |
| mwalsh | uh can we do this with the external also | 03:56 |
| mwalsh | you stil here brother | 03:57 |
| eternalswd | yes. should work as long as you keep it plugged into the same slot | 03:57 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:57 |
| mwalsh | so hwo | 03:57 |
| eternalswd | what filesystem for the usb drive? | 03:57 |
| mwalsh | ntfs | 03:57 |
| eternalswd | okay. you'll need to create another dir where you want to mount it to | 03:57 |
| mwalsh | alright | 03:58 |
| eternalswd | or as I recall, it's using /media/Ext. H | 03:58 |
| eternalswd | currently | 03:58 |
| mwalsh | i believe so | 03:58 |
| eternalswd | well, you can leave it there, but one without spaces is preferable, something like /media/external | 03:59 |
| mwalsh | ok | 03:59 |
| mwalsh | so how do i do that | 03:59 |
| eternalswd | sudo mkdir /media/external | 03:59 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:00 |
| mwalsh | and how do i apply my hd to that | 04:00 |
| eternalswd | you can leave it where it is for now, it will change when you reboot | 04:00 |
| mwalsh | how will it magically know wat hd to put in there | 04:00 |
| eternalswd | that's what the fstab file takes care of | 04:01 |
| mwalsh | right | 04:01 |
| mwalsh | nice transitionl ol | 04:01 |
| eternalswd | first though, you said "df -t ntfs" didn't yield anything? | 04:02 |
| eternalswd | try it again | 04:02 |
| mwalsh | it yields my hd now | 04:02 |
| eternalswd | but only that one, not the usb? | 04:03 |
| mwalsh | no it gets hte usb one too | 04:03 |
| eternalswd | oh, okay, good | 04:03 |
| eternalswd | onto fstab | 04:03 |
| mwalsh | right. | 04:03 |
| eternalswd | first, we'll make a backup of your current one. when editting system files backups are a must even when you think you know what you're doing | 04:04 |
| eternalswd | sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup | 04:04 |
| mwalsh | hm oddly enough even while using windows ive never used one lol | 04:04 |
| mwalsh | but i made it | 04:05 |
| eternalswd | this will copy fstab to fstab_backup | 04:05 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:05 |
| eternalswd | then we'll edit your fstab. | 04:05 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:05 |
| eternalswd | gksu gedit /etc/fstab | 04:05 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:06 |
| eternalswd | do ctrl+f and see if you can find a line for your usb drive | 04:06 |
| eternalswd | you would search for sdc | 04:06 |
| mwalsh | nah | 04:07 |
| eternalswd | okay, we'll add two lines then, one for each drive. | 04:07 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:07 |
| eternalswd | create a new line at the end of the file | 04:07 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:08 |
| eternalswd | and paste the following line | 04:08 |
| eternalswd | /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 | 04:08 |
| mwalsh | ah i see wats going on here | 04:08 |
| mwalsh | gotcha | 04:08 |
| eternalswd | and the following | 04:08 |
| eternalswd | /dev/sdc1 /media/external ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 | 04:09 |
| eternalswd | on another new line | 04:09 |
| mwalsh | uh sdc is highleited any reason | 04:09 |
| eternalswd | that was from your find earlier | 04:09 |
| mwalsh | oh ok | 04:10 |
| mwalsh | cool | 04:10 |
| mwalsh | so do i gotta restart now | 04:10 |
| eternalswd | not yet, there's one other thing I want to see | 04:11 |
| mwalsh | oko | 04:11 |
| mwalsh | can i save this fstab | 04:12 |
| eternalswd | yes | 04:12 |
| mwalsh | would this have anythign to do with the HAL proble? | 04:12 |
| eternalswd | and close it | 04:12 |
| eternalswd | no, that's what I'm moving to now | 04:12 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:12 |
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| (mwalsh/#ubuntu-classroom) http://pastebin.ca/325340 | 04:44 | |
| (mwalsh/#ubuntu-classroom) sweet site ill have to use that to cheat in programming | 04:44 | |
| mwalsh | you still here | 04:47 |
| eternalswd | alright, I'm checking on nvidia drivers right now | 04:47 |
| mwalsh | k | 04:48 |
| eternalswd | from term | 04:48 |
| eternalswd | sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx | 04:48 |
| eternalswd | may or may not be installed already | 04:48 |
| mwalsh | its dling something | 04:50 |
| eternalswd | good | 04:50 |
| mwalsh | ok now wat | 04:50 |
| eternalswd | go ahead and close gedit | 04:51 |
| eternalswd | then from term | 04:51 |
| eternalswd | sudo nvidia-xconfig | 04:51 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:51 |
| mwalsh | now wat | 04:52 |
| eternalswd | close all your programs then you may need to write this down since we have to restart X, so the gui will go down for a little and you be stuck at a fullscreen terminal | 04:53 |
| mwalsh | ok hit me | 04:53 |
| eternalswd | you press ctrl+alt+backspace to shutdown X. fullscreen terminal will appear. type the command startx and enter | 04:54 |
| mwalsh | thats all? | 04:54 |
| eternalswd | yep | 04:54 |
| mwalsh | k | 04:54 |
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| mwalsh | ok dude | 04:55 |
| mwalsh | now wut | 04:55 |
| mwalsh | oh and | 04:55 |
| mwalsh | it restarte automatically | 04:55 |
| mwalsh | i didnt have to reput startx | 04:55 |
| eternalswd | I forgot, there's I thing ctrl+alt+f1 or something where it's term only | 04:56 |
| eternalswd | think* | 04:56 |
| mwalsh | oh | 04:56 |
| mwalsh | did i need to do that | 04:56 |
| eternalswd | no | 04:56 |
| mwalsh | ok | 04:56 |
| eternalswd | check and see if your desired resolution is available now | 04:56 |
| mwalsh | its not | 04:56 |
| mwalsh | same resses up tjere | 04:57 |
| mwalsh | no nvidia splashcreen either | 04:57 |
| mwalsh | it sed somewher eon the website that hsoudl show up | 04:57 |
| eternalswd | okay, may need a full restart, not sure | 04:57 |
| mwalsh | okely dokely | 04:58 |
| mwalsh | brb | 04:58 |
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| eternalswd | kiamo, still having problems? | 04:59 |
| kiamo | yes | 04:59 |
| kiamo | majorly | 04:59 |
| kiamo | its closing in on the 3rd day of no joy now... | 05:00 |
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| mwalsh | ok dude i got the nvidia splashscreen but same resses and my ext. hd is gone now haah | 05:00 |
| eternalswd | okay | 05:00 |
| eternalswd | gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 05:01 |
| eternalswd | and http://pastebin.ca again please | 05:01 |
| mwalsh | http://pastebin.ca/325353 | 05:02 |
| mwalsh | it doesnt seem to recognize i have a widescreen display... | 05:02 |
| eternalswd | 1440x900 is what you want? | 05:03 |
| mwalsh | yes | 05:03 |
| eternalswd | okay, in gedit, scroll down to the bottom | 05:04 |
| mwalsh | k | 05:05 |
| eternalswd | and in the lines with "1440x1440" add after that "1440x900" | 05:05 |
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| mwalsh | ok.. but even in the gui nothing higher than 1152x864 shows up | 05:06 |
| mwalsh | do i save it now | 05:06 |
| eternalswd | that's probably because gnome is detecting your wide screen and disallowing others | 05:06 |
| mwalsh | ok | 05:07 |
| mwalsh | so do i save the xorg. | 05:07 |
| eternalswd | yeah | 05:07 |
| mwalsh | now wat | 05:07 |
| eternalswd | do ctrl+alt+backspace again. if x fails to start, you'll need to "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then "startx" from the fullscreen terminal | 05:08 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, still not able to play video? | 05:09 |
| kiamo | nope | 05:09 |
| kiamo | not at all | 05:09 |
| eternalswd | okay, what video card do you have, specific, not just brand | 05:10 |
| kiamo | ati 1600+ | 05:10 |
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| mwalsh | hell yes! | 05:10 |
| mwalsh | this is so much better | 05:10 |
| mwalsh | um any reason my external still isnt up tho | 05:10 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, not sure | 05:11 |
| mwalsh | ha thats so random | 05:11 |
| mwalsh | how do u check if it detected? | 05:11 |
| eternalswd | from terminal "df -t ntfs" | 05:12 |
| eternalswd | see if both drives show up | 05:12 |
| mwalsh | nah | 05:12 |
| mwalsh | only the internal | 05:12 |
| eternalswd | hmm | 05:12 |
| eternalswd | ls /dev | grep sdc | 05:13 |
| mwalsh | yep | 05:13 |
| mwalsh | detected | 05:13 |
| eternalswd | strange it didn't mount | 05:13 |
| mwalsh | mhm | 05:13 |
| mwalsh | perhaps its the boot file thingy | 05:13 |
| mwalsh | wutever its called | 05:13 |
| eternalswd | sudo gedit /etc/fstab | 05:14 |
| eternalswd | http://pastebin.ca it | 05:15 |
| mwalsh | http://pastebin.ca/325369 | 05:16 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, is it an x1600, 1600 pro, or something else? | 05:16 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, the zeroes on those two lines need to be on the lines above | 05:17 |
| mwalsh | ok | 05:17 |
| kiamo | x1600 i believe | 05:18 |
| mwalsh | wait | 05:18 |
| mwalsh | why does the line above need two sets of zeroes | 05:18 |
| eternalswd | maybe the paste got screwed. http://pastebin.ca/325369 check lines 13 and 15 | 05:19 |
| eternalswd | see if that matches your file | 05:19 |
| mwalsh | nah | 05:19 |
| mwalsh | i think its wrapping tho | 05:19 |
| mwalsh | OOO I see what i did | 05:20 |
| mwalsh | haha im so stupid | 05:20 |
| mwalsh | ok | 05:20 |
| mwalsh | 1 more problem | 05:20 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, what video player are you using? | 05:21 |
| kiamo | mplayer, vlc, totem and xine | 05:21 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, what the problem? | 05:21 |
| kiamo | dont think iv tried any others | 05:21 |
| kiamo | vlc doesnt always restart x but somtimes just give a segmentation fault before closing itself | 05:37 |
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| mwalsh | every time i try to play a sounjd or video file it says totem could not start up could not open resource for writing | 05:37 |
| kiamo | at some points in my struggles dvds would play in totem with out menus or subs but NOT if i tried to open the dvd via the menu, only as an auto run thing... | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, try using mplayer on the file. using the terminal "mplayer -vo x11" instead of just mplayer | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, yeah, you won't be able to play videos in totem without the sound set up | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, you can use mplayer which has a -nosound option | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | oh so totem just disables its ability to play | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | it's trying to open the sound device for writing to | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | specifically /dev/dsp or something similar | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | oh ok | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | so if i enable my mobo sound wuold it work | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | I would think so. | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | ok | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | you might not get that hal error either, i'm not sure | 05:37 |
| kiamo | ok mplayers playing the dvd but the aspec is all wrong... | 05:37 |
| kiamo | mplayer does complain however about subfont.ttf not being there | 05:37 |
| kiamo | hmm it also doesnt fullscreen properly | 05:37 |
| kiamo | stays the same size in places black border around it | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, yeah, what version of ubuntu do you have? | 05:37 |
| kiamo | 6.10 | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | try mplayer again but with -vo xv instead of x11 | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | see if any errors come up | 05:37 |
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| kiamo | x restarted | 05:37 |
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| eternalswd | ouch, didn't expect that | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | oops eternal | 05:37 |
| kiamo | its 6.10 x64 btw | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | uh now wen i reboot neither of the ntfs are showing up, and i still get the HAL error evn tho the vids work | 05:37 |
| kiamo | my other problem is creating a 32bit enviroment ;) but one at a time | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | kiamo are you using mplayer 64-bit | 05:37 |
| kiamo | must be | 05:37 |
| kiamo | heh | 05:37 |
| kiamo | yes i believe so, if memory serves... | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | oh shit | 05:37 |
| kiamo | i compiled it myself make install and all that | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | uh all my files are gone in my ntfs hard drives... this isnt possible right? | 05:37 |
| kiamo | mwalsh, they will still be there until the drive is formatted, its always recoverable | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | i know | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | but | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | they didnt mount | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | wen i rebooted | 05:37 |
| kiamo | :( | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | they didn't mount, so no files will show up in there. they're still on the hard drive | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | oh | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | any reason why they didnt mount | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | lol | 05:37 |
| kiamo | :D | 05:37 |
| kiamo | eternalswd, ideas? | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | like the sound thing is recognized but i sitll get the HAL | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | okay, give me just a minute, I'm looking something up | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | wat is that startup thing its sudo gedit /etc/fsomething | 05:37 |
| kiamo | fstab | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | gksu gedit /etc/fstab | 05:37 |
| mwalsh | hm everyhting seems normall. | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | okay, found the problem, got it in mine too | 05:37 |
| eternalswd | where it has 0222, that should be 222 | 05:38 |
| eternalswd | the umask | 05:38 |
| mwalsh | oh ok | 05:38 |
| kiamo | any thoughts on my video prob? | 05:40 |
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| mwalsh | nah man didnt do the trick | 05:41 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, open up /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what video card is being loaded | 05:41 |
| kiamo | (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 | 05:42 |
| kiamo | thats not good... | 05:42 |
| kiamo | isnt that wrong? | 05:42 |
| kiamo | fglrxinfo gives me correct read out tho... | 05:43 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, i figured as much. | 05:44 |
| kiamo | so its my ati drivers for certain then? | 05:44 |
| eternalswd | have you run "sudo fglrx-config" | 05:44 |
| kiamo | think so | 05:45 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, try "sudo mount -a" from the terminal and see errors | 05:45 |
| kiamo | if i remember it says nothing to config | 05:45 |
| mwalsh | it says they dont exist | 05:45 |
| kiamo | sudo: fglrx-config: command not found | 05:45 |
| mwalsh | man were really screwed without this guy huh | 05:47 |
| eternalswd | okay, i don't think you have ati drivers installed at all | 05:48 |
| kiamo | i know mwalsh | 05:48 |
| kiamo | huh... | 05:48 |
| kiamo | but.. | 05:48 |
| kiamo | i do.. | 05:48 |
| kiamo | or did | 05:48 |
| kiamo | at one point | 05:48 |
| kiamo | lol | 05:48 |
| kiamo | :'( | 05:48 |
| eternalswd | you installed fglrx? | 05:48 |
| kiamo | yea | 05:48 |
| kiamo | several times | 05:48 |
| kiamo | different ways | 05:48 |
| kiamo | mostly following this | 05:49 |
| kiamo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2 | 05:49 |
| eternalswd | okay, you probably want the ones directly from ati if you go the fglrx route | 05:50 |
| kiamo | yea | 05:50 |
| kiamo | the other way never worked | 05:51 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, i'll get to you in one second | 05:51 |
| kiamo | and the ati.com way lead me to believe it did | 05:51 |
| kiamo | fgl_glxgears displays the test thing perfectly | 05:53 |
| kiamo | frames of over 500 | 05:53 |
| kiamo | and i do have an aticonfig? | 05:53 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, do this "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx" | 05:56 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh try http://pastebin.ca/325404 as your fstab. copy from the box below to avoid the numbers | 05:56 |
| eternalswd | then try "sudo mount -a" again | 05:57 |
| kiamo | Driver "fglrx" | 05:57 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, okay, so it appears to be set up correctly. | 05:57 |
| kiamo | my drivers? | 05:57 |
| eternalswd | your xorg.conf | 05:58 |
| kiamo | excellant :) | 05:58 |
| mwalsh | sweet! | 05:58 |
| mwalsh | it worked | 05:58 |
| kiamo | gratz :D | 05:59 |
| eternalswd | mwalsh, okay, you should be set then. the fact that they mounted now proves that the fstab will work at boot | 06:01 |
| eternalswd | kiamo, "gksu synaptic" and search for xorg-driver-fglrx | 06:02 |
| eternalswd | see what version is installed | 06:02 |
| kiamo | 8.33.6-1 | 06:03 |
| kiamo | and it the same as the latest version | 06:03 |
| eternalswd | i'm not sure why it's not working then. | 06:05 |
| eternalswd | sometimes ati's are just like that | 06:06 |
| kiamo | its devinatly a driver problem? | 06:06 |
| kiamo | ati cant "just be like that" its not fair, i want to beable to watch videos!!! ;( | 06:06 |
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| eternalswd | kaimo, "glxinfo | grep direct" | 06:07 |
| eternalswd | get any feedback? | 06:08 |
| kiamo | yes | 06:08 |
| kiamo | it says yes.. | 06:08 |
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| eternalswd | how about "lsmod | grep fglrx" | 06:08 |
| kiamo | fglrx 630224 9 | 06:08 |
| kiamo | why do i get the feeling all this is affirming that it should all be working fine... | 06:09 |
| eternalswd | okay, it appears to be working then. all I can say now then is I have know idea | 06:09 |
| eternalswd | *no idea | 06:09 |
| kiamo | hehe | 06:09 |
| kiamo | thats ok | 06:09 |
| kiamo | thanks ever so much for trying tho :) | 06:09 |
| kiamo | seriously | 06:09 |
| kiamo | at least im certain what the problem is now | 06:09 |
| kiamo | :) | 06:10 |
| kiamo | you mind still helping with other stuff? | 06:10 |
| eternalswd | oh wait, there's one more thing I thought of | 06:10 |
| kiamo | oo oo :D | 06:10 |
| eternalswd | two things actually. first, "sudo apt-get install libxv1" see if that's installed | 06:12 |
| kiamo | nope | 06:13 |
| eternalswd | it wasn't installed? | 06:13 |
| kiamo | oh wait | 06:13 |
| kiamo | sorry | 06:13 |
| kiamo | yes | 06:13 |
| kiamo | it is | 06:13 |
| kiamo | its late for me ;) and i just read 0 newly installed | 06:13 |
| kiamo | hehe | 06:13 |
| eternalswd | okay, second thing, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep VideoOverlay" | 06:14 |
| eternalswd | paste your results | 06:14 |
| kiamo | Option "VideoOverlay" "on" | 06:14 |
| eternalswd | okay, now, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep OpenGLOverlay" | 06:15 |
| kiamo | Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" | 06:15 |
| eternalswd | well, now I've really exhausted my resources. there is one thing you can try though. you can try turning off the VideoOverlay and turning on OpenGLOverlay. then when running mplayer, use -vo gl | 06:17 |
| kiamo | i dont need to restart x do i? | 06:19 |
| eternalswd | that should be better than x11, though worse than xv | 06:19 |
| eternalswd | yeah, you'll need to restart X after editing your xorg.conf file | 06:19 |
| kiamo | ah | 06:20 |
| kiamo | whats the cmd to load a dvd again? | 06:20 |
| kiamo | mpalyer dvd://DVD_VIDEO? | 06:20 |
| eternalswd | mplayer dvd://1 | 06:20 |
| eternalswd | that's normally the movie track | 06:20 |
| kiamo | file not found | 06:20 |
| eternalswd | if you have dvdnav, you might just need mplayer dvd:// | 06:21 |
| kiamo | nope | 06:21 |
| eternalswd | or rather mplayer dvdnav:// | 06:21 |
| kiamo | no | 06:21 |
| kiamo | i didnt compile it in | 06:21 |
| kiamo | lol this is silly | 06:22 |
| eternalswd | hmm, then the first one should have worked | 06:22 |
| eternalswd | do you have more than one drive? | 06:22 |
| kiamo | iv been using ubuntu for 3 days and cant remember how to play a dvd | 06:22 |
| kiamo | yea 2 | 06:22 |
| kiamo | dvdrw and dvdr | 06:22 |
| eternalswd | okay, which one has the dvd in it? | 06:22 |
| kiamo | cdrom1 its called | 06:22 |
| kiamo | and its the dvdr | 06:22 |
| eternalswd | okay, try mplayer --dvd-device /media/cdrom1 dvd://1 | 06:23 |
| kiamo | mplayer --dvd-device /media/cdrom1 dvd://1 -vo gl? | 06:23 |
| eternalswd | yep. but it won't work right now, nut until you restart x. since the opengloverlay is off right now | 06:24 |
| kiamo | ah ok | 06:24 |
| kiamo | brb | 06:24 |
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| kiamo | what was the cmd again? | 06:25 |
| kiamo | lol | 06:25 |
| eternalswd | mplayer --dvd-device /media/cdrom1 dvd://1 -vo gl | 06:25 |
| kiamo | umm | 06:25 |
| kiamo | MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team | 06:26 |
| kiamo | CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ (Family: 15, Model: 75, Stepping: 2) | 06:26 |
| kiamo | CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 | 06:26 |
| kiamo | Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE SSE2 | 06:26 |
| kiamo | The -gui option will only work as first commandline argument. | 06:26 |
| kiamo | Unknown option on the command line: --dvd-device | 06:26 |
| kiamo | Error parsing option on the command line: --dvd-device | 06:26 |
| kiamo | with out --dvd-device worked | 06:26 |
| kiamo | and it full screens properly | 06:27 |
| eternalswd | good, you may see some artifacts sometimes, but it's alot better than x11. | 06:27 |
| kiamo | indeed | 06:27 |
| eternalswd | hopefully you'll get xv working someday | 06:28 |
| kiamo | perhaps once ati release some new drivers? | 06:28 |
| eternalswd | vlc should have a gl option as well. | 06:28 |
| eternalswd | unfortunately ati isn't too fond of linux for some reason :( | 06:28 |
| kiamo | i still however dont get a menu or subtitles | 06:29 |
| kiamo | mplayer complains of missing subfont.ttf | 06:29 |
| eternalswd | ahh, gmplayer instead of mplayer | 06:29 |
| kiamo | yes | 06:29 |
| kiamo | both complain | 06:30 |
| kiamo | but both play the film | 06:30 |
| kiamo | (dvd) | 06:30 |
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| eternalswd | okay for subfont.ttf, you can use any .ttf font file copy it to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf and that error should go away | 06:33 |
| kiamo | where can i copy fonts from? | 06:34 |
| kiamo | and sorry what was the mplayer cmd again? | 06:34 |
| eternalswd | not sure, but you may be able to set it in the gui | 06:34 |
| eternalswd | mplayer dvd://1 -vo gl | 06:34 |
| eternalswd | or gmplayer dvd://1 -vo gl | 06:35 |
| eternalswd | the -vo gl can be set in you mplayer config file ~/.mplayer/config as the line vo=gl | 06:35 |
| eternalswd | then you don't need to do that at the command line every time | 06:36 |
| kiamo | ah ha | 06:36 |
| kiamo | what does the vo stand for? | 06:37 |
| eternalswd | video out | 06:37 |
| kiamo | video out opengl? | 06:38 |
| eternalswd | yep | 06:39 |
| kiamo | how do you spell arial.ttf | 06:40 |
| kiamo | ? | 06:40 |
| kiamo | i cant remember the exact name | 06:40 |
| eternalswd | that's the correct spelling | 06:40 |
| kiamo | weird i dont have it | 06:40 |
| kiamo | will correcting this give me menus? | 06:41 |
| eternalswd | you don't have menus when running gmplayer? | 06:42 |
| kiamo | nope | 06:42 |
| eternalswd | did you compile it yourself? | 06:42 |
| kiamo | yea | 06:42 |
| eternalswd | did you include --enable-menu on the ./configure line? | 06:43 |
| kiamo | no.. | 06:43 |
| kiamo | didnt say to do son on the guid | 06:43 |
| kiamo | just enablegui | 06:43 |
| eternalswd | well the subfont.ttf is only the default font for subtitles. menu should work in the gui. so you might want to try recompiling with --enable-menu. it's possible it wasn't necessary before but is now or something | 06:45 |
| kiamo | hmm | 06:45 |
| kiamo | can i just compile and make make install over the top? | 06:46 |
| eternalswd | if you use the same prefix flag it'll just install right over | 06:48 |
| kiamo | i get this message when ./configure | 06:50 |
| kiamo | NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your | 06:50 |
| kiamo | operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot | 06:50 |
| kiamo | be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. | 06:50 |
| kiamo | ok well anyway | 06:52 |
| kiamo | its making again | 06:52 |
| eternalswd | yeah, win32 codecs don't work on 64-bit mplayer. you'd have to make 32-bit mplayer for that | 06:52 |
| kiamo | please can you help me create a 32bit enviroment for things like firefox and skype please ;) | 06:52 |
| kiamo | oh? | 06:52 |
| kiamo | and mplayer too then i guess... | 06:53 |
| kiamo | hahaha | 06:53 |
| eternalswd | sorry, I have absolutely no experience with that | 06:53 |
| kiamo | ah ok then | 06:53 |
| kiamo | thanks LOADS eternalswd | 06:53 |
| kiamo | what do you do anyway? | 06:53 |
| kiamo | where youf rom? | 06:53 |
| eternalswd | no problem. | 06:53 |
| eternalswd | I'm in college right now studying computer science | 06:54 |
| kiamo | fun fun | 06:54 |
| kiamo | i did that for 2 year | 06:54 |
| kiamo | before taking a year outj | 06:54 |
| kiamo | and then starting my degree again in game art design | 06:54 |
| kiamo | uk? | 06:55 |
| eternalswd | uk as in united kingdom? no US | 06:55 |
| kiamo | ah | 06:55 |
| kiamo | im from uk, its eeeaarly in the morning now ;) | 06:56 |
| eternalswd | it's midnight here | 06:56 |
| eternalswd | what is it, 5, 6 in the morning there? | 06:57 |
| eternalswd | well, I'm glad I could help out a little, if you have more problems with mplayer, there's an #mplayer channel here on freenode | 06:58 |
| eternalswd | I've got to head out now. | 06:59 |
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| mwalsh | anyone here? | 11:00 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah | 11:01 |
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| mwalsh | anyone here? | 11:14 |
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| neuratix | yes | 11:17 |
| nothlit | yes people are here | 11:27 |
| nothlit | !anyone | 11:27 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 11:27 |
| nothlit | !ask | 11:27 |
| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 11:27 |
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| mwalsh | nayone here? | 11:45 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-classroom:tonyyarusso] : Ubuntu Open Week has now finished - thanks , everyone! | The classroom schedule is located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom | Transcripts and logs are at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts and | ||
| tonyyarusso | crud | 12:00 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-classroom:tonyyarusso] : Ubuntu Open Week has now finished - thanks , everyone! | The classroom schedule is located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom | Transcripts and logs are at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts | ||
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| tonyyarusso | (That server isn't even running right now - in the shop, much less serving useful pages) | 12:01 |
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