[12:01] <chiarato> hi, everyone! I've read every piece of document I could find on the net about my usb adaptor wusb54g i've put rt2570 on the blacklist and got ndiswrapper -i rt2500.inf installed i've got ubuntu edgy 6.10 when i use ifconfig and iwconfig I have the wlan0 working and recognized but i can't connect to the net please someone help!!
[12:01] <ikonia> chiarato: any chance you can stop repeating that
[12:01] <bluefox83> chiarato, why are you using ndiswrapper for usb?
[12:01] <chiarato> ikonia: dude I need help isn't this a ubuntu help chat!
[12:01] <FooAtari> hi folks.  how do change thmese in beryl? for anyone that uses it
[12:02] <LjL> !patience | chiarato
[12:02] <ubotwo> chiarato: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:02] <ikonia> chiarato: if you have the device and can configure it with if/iwconfig - then the only option is your settings are not correct for your network
[12:02] <LjL> Ubotu, tell FooAtari about beryl | FooAtari, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:02] <erUSUL> chiarato: yes i'm here, native drivers create a ra0 iface that you can configure as seen here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[12:02] <ikonia> erUSUL: you told him that before
[12:02] <Cold_FiRe> u see this, http://gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/
[12:03] <Cold_FiRe> how do i install it without internet
[12:03] <ikonia> I /CAN/ see that
[12:03] <ikonia> Cold_FiRe: ask the maintainer - its nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:03] <Cold_FiRe> or http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:03] <DBFT> in the Menu Layout thing - is it possible to move an item into a directory rather than having to recreate it then delete it?
[12:03] <ikonia> Cold_FiRe: ask the maintainer - its nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:03] <Cold_FiRe> well it for ubuntu and its to help me
[12:03] <Cold_FiRe> whos maintainer
[12:03] <ikonia> Cold_FiRe: its nothing to do with ubuntu - ask the mainters mention on the websites
[12:04] <Cold_FiRe> !compile
[12:04] <erUSUL> chiarato: well rausb0
[12:04] <ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:04] <Cold_FiRe> wait do i need internet to compile somthing?
[12:04] <LjL> !offline | Cold_FiRe
[12:04] <ubotwo> Cold_FiRe: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[12:04] <ikonia> Cold_FiRe: its nothing to do with ubuntu - ask the mainters mention on the websites
[12:04] <LjL> Cold_FiRe: network manager is packaged i believe.
[12:04] <HymnToLife> kiamo, the pastebin seems to be down, I can't see your logs
[12:05] <LjL> Cold_FiRe: no, you don't in general, but if it needs some specific dependencies (and it most probably does), you need to get those
[12:05] <haseeb> where can I get precompiled kernel interface and libc header files for my system, I need these in order to install nvidia display driver
[12:05] <LjL> Cold_FiRe: still, network manager is packaged so you don't need to compile that. gtkwifi, yes
[12:05] <chiarato> erUSUL: true but I can't get it working so I folowed the tutorials on the net and that's how I came up with the black list and ndiswrapper!
[12:05] <kiamo> i could sent it to you in a txt file if you want?
[12:05] <erUSUL> chiarato: fair enough
[12:06] <ikonia> haseeb: better to use the nvidia drivers in the repo
[12:06] <kiamo> HymnToLife, do you want me to send you the file?
[12:06] <chahibi> haseeb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:07] <HymnToLife> kiamo, use another one, like http://pastebin.com
[12:07] <Cold_FiRe> well ok i tryed using the network manager but it doesnt work
[12:07] <Cold_FiRe> it installed but it doesnt work
[12:07] <Cold_FiRe> it doesnt open
[12:08] <odla> how do i install flash 9 on edgy?
[12:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell odla about flash9 | odla, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:08] <ikonia> odla: there is a thread on the forum on it - but its quite a manual process
[12:08] <Cold_FiRe> im going to reinstall edgy
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> !flash9 | odla
[12:09] <ubotwo> odla: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[12:09] <ikonia> fantastic - its in back ports now
[12:09] <ikonia> how long has that been the case
[12:10] <LjL> Cold_FiRe, i can see on the gtkwifi site that there is a .deb package. it might be made for Debian and not for Ubuntu (in which case, it could be dangerous to use), and even if it's for Ubuntu, it's clearly not official... but, it's there
[12:10] <kiamo> HymnToLife, http://pastebin.co.uk/9443
[12:10] <Cold_FiRe> wats the url, i cant find it
[12:10] <odla> tonyyarusso: it says download failed
[12:10] <LjL> ikonia: i believe it's still only the beta version that's in backports. it's been in there for quite long. the release version (it's been released now, right?), i don't know
[12:10] <ikonia> LjL: any day now
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> odla: What's "it"?  Did you enable the repo?
[12:11] <bardas> Hi. I just installed EasyUbuntu. Can anyone explain the difference between the "legacy" Nvidia and the other non-legacy drivers?
[12:11] <odla> tonyyarusso: yeah flash 9...i enabled backports
[12:11] <bardas> Which should I install?
[12:11] <LjL> Cold_FiRe: ahem, man, just follow the only link on the site, that is "GTKWiki Project Page"
[12:11] <odla> Downloading... download failed
[12:11] <ikonia> bardas: do you have a newish card
[12:11] <JohnnyV> odia: did you have any trouble w/ flash 9?
[12:11] <Cold_FiRe> yea...er, i figured
[12:11] <bardas> ikonia: yes.
[12:11] <ikonia> bardas: then you don't need legacy
[12:12] <herewer> Hey guys. Is there an app that helps you search sites like Orbitz.com for the best prices?
[12:12] <ikonia> herewer: not that I'm aware of , thats normally a web application
[12:12] <JohnnyV> herewer: from the desktop?
[12:12] <bardas> ikonia: ok. if I installed the non-legacy one, do I need to do anything else besides reboot in order to have the best performance?
[12:12] <unop> herewer, just how does this pertain to ubuntu?
[12:12] <Cold_FiRe> it 55kb????????????????????????????????
[12:12] <odla> JohnnyV: yeah i can't seem to download it through backports
[12:12] <ikonia> !nvidia >bardas
[12:12] <Cold_FiRe> is it supost to be that big
[12:12] <HymnToLife> kiamo, nothing that seems wrong here...
[12:12] <ikonia> bardas: follow the insructions there
[12:12] <Phuzion> Cold_FiRe, 55kb is nothing
[12:13] <JohnnyV> odio: ohh, i got it downloaded but it never seemed to work, even though it did say it was installed
[12:13] <herewer> unop: directly it doesnt then agian 99% of this chat doesnt. Indirectly I had hoped that there was a GNOME intergrated app already done.
[12:13] <kiamo> HymnToLife, what else can it be?
[12:13] <Cold_FiRe> ow well im going to go reinsatll edgy anyway
[12:13] <bardas> ikonia: ok, thanks.
[12:13] <DBFT> how do i make a folder hidden?
[12:13] <JeremyE> Hi all
[12:13] <odla> DBFT: you could put a . before the name
[12:13] <bardas> (Thank God I didn't install the AMD64 version again... it lacks EVERYTHING in terms of debs)
[12:14] <rocksori> do i need to install ubuntu from boot or can i start install from windows?
[12:14] <JeremyE> Can anyone help me get my Agere Systems AC'97 Modem going under Ubuntu 6.10 Desktop?
[12:14] <ikonia> rocksori: you need to boot from a cd
[12:14] <rocksori> ok :) ty
[12:14] <DBFT> thanks odla :p
[12:14] <EnsignRedshirt> herewer: 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
[12:15] <JohnnyV> EnsignRedshirt: no... its 64%, obviously
[12:15] <grub_booter> and 90% of people know that
[12:15] <herewer> EnsignRedShirt: And what are the stats of the Red shirted ensign survival rate ?
[12:15] <herewer> :)
[12:15] <unop> EnsignRedshirt, there's a 99% chance that's under-exaggerated :)
[12:15] <odla> DBFT: no prob ;)
[12:15] <Phuzion> there's a 50% chance that I
[12:15] <ikonia> !off-topic
[12:15] <Phuzion> there's a 50% chance that I am lying right now
[12:15] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[12:15] <ikonia> !offtopic
[12:15] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:15] <rickest> synaptic says Firefox-2.0.0.1 is installed but Firefox itself says it's only 1.5.  anyone know why or how to fix?
[12:16] <EnsignRedshirt> herewer: Survival rate?  What are you talking ab
[12:16] <DBFT> first day on linux lol
[12:16] <FearMoth> how can I purge all packages included in kubuntu-desktop ? I need to install xubuntu-desktop and I need to free up as much space as I can
[12:16] <LjL> FearMoth: are you on edgy, and did you install kubuntu-desktop yourself?
[12:16] <bardas> rickest: possibly you have FF2 but running FF1.5?
[12:16] <JohnnyV> is anyone having random shut downs of FF 2? especially while browsing sites w/ javascript or other scripts?
[12:16] <rickest> bardas: that might be, let me check
[12:16] <herewer> EnsignredShirt: Ever bother to watch star treck?
[12:16] <FearMoth> LjL: dapper, and it was installed with a kubuntu cd
[12:16] <herewer> LOL :)
[12:16] <herewer> Cant spell tonight
[12:16] <ikonia> JohnnyV: I've had a few
[12:16] <bardas> If I have powernowd running, can I assume Cool&Quiet is being utilized?
[12:17] <ikonia> bardas: no
[12:17] <LjL> FearMoth: then you're quite out of luck. best you can do is remove the core KDE libraries, which will end up removing most if not all kubuntu-related packages
[12:17] <JohnnyV> ikonia: are you running berly by any chance?
[12:17] <rickest> bardas: there's only one executable 'firefox' script, what cmd starts ff2?
[12:17] <ikonia> JohnnyV: no
[12:17] <FearMoth> LjL: can I just reinstall it just with the server packages and then install xubuntu-desktop from there?
[12:17] <LjL> FearMoth: the kdelibs package wil lbe your main target i suppose
[12:17] <JohnnyV> ikonia: mmk, I'm trying to figure out where the problem is coming from, because it seemed to start once i installed beryl
[12:17] <LjL> FearMoth: you sure can *if* you have the alternate or mini CD
[12:17] <unop> FearMoth, maybe this'll help http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[12:18] <ikonia> JohnnyV: there is a little unstability in FF with extenal apps such as java/flash etc - its just life#
[12:18] <bimberi> !fffc | ikonia
[12:18] <ubotwo> ikonia: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[12:18] <FearMoth> LjL: can I install dapper server (I have that alternate cd) and then apt-get dist-upgrade to edgy?
[12:18] <unop> FearMoth,  sure
[12:18] <ikonia> bimberi: I'm aware of that thank you
[12:18] <ikonia> I wasn't asking for help
[12:18] <FearMoth> cool, thanks I'll try that
[12:18] <LjL> FearMoth: yeah, but i'd rather just install Edgy in that case. why not?
[12:19] <unop> FearMoth, but instead of reinstalling, you might as well tweak your existing installation
[12:19] <bardas> ikonia: how do I utilize C&Q then?
[12:19] <FearMoth> LjL: I've got no more blank CDs ..
[12:19] <zotz> does anyone know how to enable printer administration from the command line in badger?
[12:19] <ezenu> I have no sound at all in Ubuntu, after following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753 -- I tried reverting to the prior settings, yet I still don't have sound. (And I'm not 100% sure what the first file was before I changed it)
[12:19] <ikonia> bardas: C&Q is a windows app/driver
[12:19] <LjL> FearMoth: ... ok, that's a valid excuse :P
[12:19] <ikonia> bardas: as far as I can recall
[12:19] <bardas> ikonia: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html
[12:19] <cac_> hi folks
[12:20] <ikonia> bardas: what am I looking at on that url
[12:20] <FearMoth> thanks for the help guys
[12:20] <ikonia> ooh I see it
[12:20] <bardas> ikonia: C&Q is the power saving technology of AMD processors.
[12:20] <Tmi> gee, now after poking around all programs sound options I have sound in my console when I press tab ... a little beep ... irritating :P
[12:20] <ikonia> bardas: I know what it is - but its software driven
[12:20] <bardas> ikonia: they even have some Linux drivers for them.
[12:20] <ikonia> bardas: I've just seen it
[12:21] <unop> Tmi, xset -b  ought to silence it
[12:21] <Tmi> didn't help I'm afriad
[12:21] <bimberi> argh
[12:21] <bimberi> !fffc | JohnnyV
[12:21] <ubotwo> JohnnyV: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[12:21] <bardas> ikonia: basically, the question is whether Ubuntu is configured to use the minimal power (i.e. do what C&Q enables it to do)
[12:21] <bimberi> (apologies ikonia)
[12:21] <ikonia> bardas: well ubuntu doesn't have that driver
[12:21] <ikonia> bimberi: no problem
[12:22] <ikonia> bardas: its external to the kernel - so ubuntu won't be aware of it
[12:22] <unop> Tmi, by console do you mean a TTY or something within X like xterm or gnome-terminal ?
[12:22] <chiarato> erUSUL: thanks alot I got to reboot the computer to get ubuntu running so thanks again!
[12:22] <Tmi> unop: KDE
[12:22] <bardas> ikonia: ok, so how should I install it?  just follow the instructions on the page?
[12:22] <Tmi> Konsole
[12:22] <ikonia> bardas: yup - but personally I don't like dropping 3rd party modules into the kernel
[12:23] <ikonia> bardas: there is no promises it will even be compatible with the ubuntu versions
[12:23] <unop> Tmi, errm, i dont use it .. but there's an option to silence the bell .. have a look around in options
[12:23] <kiamo> please could someone help me work out why X restarts when I try to play video files?
[12:23] <bardas> ikonia: neither do I, but I like my machine to use the minimal possible power and produce minimal heat.
[12:23] <Tmi> yeah just found it, feel stupid now :D
[12:23] <bardas> (and noise)
[12:23] <Tmi> thanks
[12:23] <ikonia> bardas: just use the kernel power managment
[12:23] <ikonia> rather than a cpu external driver with unknown requirments
[12:23] <deafboy> how do i figure out what a certain key is in hex?
[12:23] <unop> Tmi, np, we all have them days every now and then :)
[12:23] <bardas> ikonia: where is it on Dapper?
[12:24] <deafboy> i've got a touchpad key on my laptop and i want to bind it ot that, right now i have it bound to ctrl+F9
[12:24] <unop> deafboy,  you mean "what is A in hex?" ?
[12:24] <ikonia> bardas: tools like cpufreq
[12:24] <Tmi> unop: this "xset -b" i typed in, has it changed anything that I should change back as it wasnt the problm?
[12:24] <bardas> ikonia: ok, thanks for your help.
[12:24] <ikonia> bardas: no problem
[12:25] <unop> Tmi, well, it's silenced the bell for all X programs in this session -- if you logoff and logon, it'll have reverted
[12:25] <Tmi> ah ok, so then I'll leave it be and go watch an episode stargate instead, good night :D
[12:25] <_Roman> I am after some help setting up a server to allow connections via XDMCP.  The server is headless.  What do I need to do to allow it to server xwindows via XDMCP?
[12:25] <unop> :)
[12:25] <ikonia> _Roman: check /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:26] <deafboy> unop: i mean is there a way i can find out what a key is in hex?
[12:26] <_Roman> konia: ok, thanks
[12:26] <deafboy> unop: i have an asus laptop and it has a touchpad on/off key, i wnat to know what it is in hex
[12:26] <odnigmann> someone use airodump?
[12:26] <IBMg41> hello anyone know anything about installing vmware on edgy?
[12:26] <ikonia> deafboy: touch it and see what appears in the xorg log or console
[12:26] <unop> deafboy,  use xev for tha -- it'll give you the keycode
[12:27] <unop> that*
[12:27] <ikonia> IBMg41: apt-get install vmware-player
[12:27] <rocksori> was wondering if anyone know if radeon 9200 works with xgl
[12:27] <IBMg41> i should correct myself
[12:27] <IBMg41> i meant vmware workstation
[12:27] <ikonia> rocksori: check the the xgl page on the wiki
[12:28] <someothernick> !vmware
[12:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[12:28] <rocksori> could you give url for me pls
[12:28] <freesun> hello... any tip where I can find about ubuntu compatible usb hardware?
[12:28] <ikonia> rocksori: for $$%$% sake
[12:28] <ikonia> rocksori:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <freesun> I mean a web about that
[12:28] <rocksori> im a beginner :)
[12:28] <rocksori> ty
[12:28] <bruenig> depends what type of usb hardware, usb thumb drives pretty much all work
[12:28] <ikonia> rocksori: begeinners can use google or view the ubuntu home page without asking
[12:28] <deafboy> unop: it doesn't find anything :(
[12:28] <rocksori> or ask smarter people than me :)
[12:29] <odnigmann> someone use aircrack.. airodump?
[12:29] <unop> deafboy, well, does xev find other keystrokes?
[12:29] <ikonia> rocksori: nah - that annoys people when you don't do anything for your self
[12:29] <odnigmann> kismet
[12:29] <deafboy> unop: yep doesn't find 4 of my hotkeys
[12:29] <bruenig> !anyone | odnigmann
[12:29] <ubotu> odnigmann: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:29] <deafboy> unop: finds the rest
[12:30] <sarah> is apt-get update giving a MD5Sum mismatch at the moment?
[12:30] <unop> deafboy, errm, you could try xbindkeys next
[12:30] <bruenig> !xbindkeys
[12:30] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:30] <bruenig> !xbindkeys-config
[12:30] <ubotu> xbindkeys-config: An easy to use gtk program for configuring Xbindkeys.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 124 kB
[12:31] <IBMg41> !vmware workstation
[12:31] <odnigmann> ubotu ok-- but why question if yours dont use the app?
[12:31] <ikonia> IBMg41: you got the URL
[12:31] <GutaXXL> hello alllllllllllll
[12:31] <GutaXXL> hello alllllllllllll
[12:31] <GutaXXL> hello alllllllllllll
[12:31] <GutaXXL> hello alllllllllllll
[12:31] <spiral_shell> hi, can anyone help with a mail issue using postfix on ubuntu?
[12:31] <bruenig> !ops
[12:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:31] <bruenig> odnigmann, he is telling you to ask your question, ask it
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> !repeat | GutaXXL
[12:31] <ubotu> GutaXXL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:31] <GutaXXL> hello a;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[12:32] <bruenig> that is hardly a !repeat
[12:32] <sarah> could someone try doing an apt-get update to see if there is a MD5sum mismatch???
[12:32] <odnigmann> ok :)
[12:32] <ikonia> GutaXXL: moron - why cause trouble
[12:32] <spiral_shell> I am getting this error in the mail logs: Jan 23 10:29:43 localhost postfix/smtp[17371] : 3B40458090: to=<myemail@yahoo.com>, relay=f.mx.mail.yahoo.com[68.142.202.247] , delay=17, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)
[12:32] <ikonia> spiral_shell: thats not an error
[12:33] <IBMg41> ikonia: what url
[12:33] <IBMg41> ?
[12:33] <ikonia> IBMg41: the one for vmware on ubuntu
[12:33] <spiral_shell> ikonia, ok...I have a script that is sending small amounts of emails that are getting blocked by yahoo
[12:33] <bruenig> spammer
[12:33] <ikonia> spiral_shell: thats a different senario
[12:33] <ikonia> spiral_shell: are you on cable/DSL ?
[12:34] <unop> spiral_shell,  yahoo's probably sending those emails to your "bulk" folder -- it did when i was testing sendmail out
[12:34] <spiral_shell> ikonia,using php...I assume that the header of the email has a problem then, am I heading in the right direction with this?
[12:34] <IBMg41> ikonia: I've tried the methods listed on the ubuntu website as well as a few others
[12:34] <ikonia> spiral_shell: are you on cable/DSL
[12:35] <odnigmann> when i use airodump.. i receive a small amount of IVs
[12:35] <ikonia> IV's ?
[12:35] <bruenig> !info airodump
[12:35] <ubotu> Package airodump does not exist in any distro I know
[12:35] <odnigmann> and dont can use aircrack
[12:35] <bruenig> hmmm
[12:35] <unop> probably initialisation vectors
[12:36] <ikonia> spiral_shell: are you on cable/DSL
[12:36] <deafboy> unop: i hit the wrong hot key and it put my computer to sleep lol
[12:36] <christiane> WTF? I just realized that the ubuntu cd has no lvm savvy kernel ... Is that right?
[12:36] <deafboy> unop: is there anyway to figure it out of xev doesn't figure it out?
[12:36] <bruenig> wtf
[12:36] <ikonia> christiane: 1.) I don't need to see bad language
[12:36] <ikonia> 2.) the livecd is lvm aware
[12:37] <unop> deafboy,  !xbindkeys or someother technique as per http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys
[12:37] <bruenig> wtf is meant to enable you to not see the bad language?
[12:37] <ikonia> bruenig: we know what it means - its uncalled for
[12:37] <kiamo> please can someone help me setup a 32bit chroot with debootstrap, its not building the enviroment properly for me...
[12:38] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: which directions are you trying to follow (link...)
[12:38] <unop> christiane, errm, you probably need the alternative CD to setup LVMs while installing -- otherwise, LVMs are dealt with by the kernel/init and ubuntu does support them well
[12:38] <kiamo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[12:38] <jfry> Can anyone tell me if there is an easy way to restore a lost /boot partition?  I had a raid array crash and rebuilt the array but the boot partition that was on the failed drive and is gone for good...  is there an easy way to recreate the /boot from a chroot?
[12:38] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: let me take a loot at it and i'll get back to you
[12:39] <tom47> having sound probs since recent totem updates ... anyone else seen this?
[12:39] <faLUCE> Hi. A really difficoult question. If I launch xset in order to blank the screen while mplayer is running, and another script kills mplayer, xset returns to the desktop. I don't want that this happens (I want that the blank screen remains)... what should I do?
[12:39] <ikonia> jfry: if its raided - it should be running on the other disk
[12:39] <christiane> ikonia: Sorry (took me about an hour to dowload the iso ...). `lvmiopversion` says "0". What am I doing wrong here?
[12:39] <kiamo> ciscosurfer, thanks very much!
[12:39] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: :-)
[12:40] <jfry> ikonia: the /boot was not raided
[12:40] <ikonia> jfry: so what are you talking about raid ?
[12:40] <unop> jfry, well, do you have a free volume to dedicate to be /boot?
[12:40] <christiane> Is there a kernel module I need to modprobe to activate lvm (from live cd)?
[12:40] <unop> christiane, if you want LVMs .. get the alternative CD
[12:41] <jfry> yeah.... the first partition of each of the 4 drives is a 256MB... one for boot and 3 for swap
[12:41] <christiane> unop: Thank you.
[12:41] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: I remember setting up a prevu enviroment, maybe this will help you instead of the wiki link >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687
[12:41] <faLUCE> Hi. A really difficoult question. If I launch xset in order to blank the screen while mplayer is running, and another script kills mplayer, xset returns to the desktop. I don't want that this happens (I want that the blank screen remains)... what should I do?
[12:41] <ikonia> jfry: if you have no backup - you'll need to re-install
[12:41] <unop> faLUCE,  how are you launching this mplayer/xset combo?
[12:41] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: give it a look
[12:41] <ikonia> faLUCE: we saw you 1 minute ago
[12:41] <Asl[a] n> is there an application that'll record screen events? like a screen-capture program that outputs it to video ?
[12:41] <jfry> ikonia:  not an option and I doubt that it's the only way
[12:42] <ikonia> jfry: if you don't have a backup - yes that is the only way
[12:42] <faLUCE> ikonia: with two separate scripts
[12:42] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: recordmydesktop is a good one
[12:42] <datachild> I'm having trouble installing/getting my fluxbox to work.. i've configured the .xinitrc file to exec fluxbox.. but when i try type startx nothing happens, but x starts when i type Xorg (with no fluxbox) and when i try typing "startfluxbox" it won't start because there's no XServer to connect to
[12:42] <lufis> Is there a pdf reader plugin for linux?
[12:42] <unop> jfry, if you have a free partition to dedicate as /boot .. it's a matter of editing the /etc/fstab to remap /boot and then you need to reinstall !grub
[12:43] <jfry> ikonia: all that boot contains is the bootloader (grub), kernel, and some config files... should be relatively easy to rebuild
[12:43] <andre> hello
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> lufis: yes.  search for acrobat or whatever
[12:43] <ikonia> jfry: rebuild ? really - how are you going to get a kernal image system.map "rebuilt"
[12:43] <andre> i dowloaded a tar.gz how do i install it
[12:43] <ikonia> andre what package
[12:43] <jfry> unop, I agree... do you know of a guide... I would hate to have to keep rebooting into knoppix to test it.
[12:43] <andre> libdvdcss2
[12:44] <unop> faLUCE,  try launching xset with nohup
[12:44] <ikonia> andre thats in the ubuntu repo's
[12:44] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: istanbul is another one
[12:44] <ikonia> andre search the wiki for "restricted formats" and there is a how to
[12:44] <Jowi> !dvd | andre
[12:44] <ubotu> andre: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:44] <andre> im using debain
[12:44] <andre> debian
[12:44] <faLUCE> unop: already tried
[12:44] <jfry> ikonia: I will get back to you.
[12:44] <ikonia> andre join #debian - this is ubuntu support
[12:44] <faLUCE> it doesn't work
[12:44] <unop> jfry, errm, not really, do you know how to setup a chroot of your system from something like knoppix?
[12:44] <Asl[a] n> ciscosurfer, seriously. I've tried all sorts of searches on apt-cache with capture video- all i end up is with dvi apps
[12:44] <andre> ok
[12:45] <ikonia> unop: how are you suggesting he gets a system.map
[12:45] <sarah> hey guys....could someone please just quickly try an apt-get update to check if there are md5sum mismatches?
[12:45] <unop> faLUCE, you arent giving us much to work on .. can you pastebin the scripts please?
[12:45] <ikonia> sarah: works fine
[12:45] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: aptitude search istanbul
[12:45] <sarah> ikonia, hmmm what could the problem be then?
[12:45] <jfry> ikonia: from what I can tell... I can just copy the one out of the kernel src.
[12:46] <rickest> I have firefox 1.5 in /opt/firefox and ff2 in /usr/lib/firefox (no idea how or why this happened).  How do I get rid of the old one?
[12:46] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install istanbul
[12:46] <kiamo> ciscosurfer, sorry was in another channel, thanks very much, ill have a look at this
[12:46] <Asl[a] n> lol, i thought you were just trying to make fun.
[12:46] <ikonia> jfry: there is no kernel source
[12:46] <Asl[a] n> installing it now
[12:46] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: ok :-)
[12:46] <soundray> lufis: yes, there is
[12:47] <datachild> I'm having trouble installing/getting my fluxbox to work.. i've configured the .xinitrc file to exec fluxbox.. but when i try type startx nothing happens, but x starts when i type Xorg (with no fluxbox) and when i try typing "startfluxbox" it won't start because there's no XServer to connect to
[12:47] <lufis> Well I'd prefer a freeone
[12:47] <I-kido> are there ati user with good config, no crashes??
[12:47] <unop> ikonia,  errm, where is system.map usually placed? (i'm not on ubuntu right now)
[12:47] <ikonia> unop /boot
[12:47] <lufis> I'msorrythisspace bar is drivinb me nuts
[12:47] <kiamo> ciscosurfer, i am running edgy tho... is there more to this i dont realise?
[12:47] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: or, you can also try this one >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[12:47] <faLUCE> unop: SCRIPT1) sleep 5;xset dpms force off   SCRIPT2) sleep 8; killall mplayer  SCRIPT3) mplayer mymovie;   the three scripts are launched about at the same moment
[12:47] <ikonia> unop: also he'll need his initrd
[12:47] <unop> ikonia, i should think -- reinstalling the kernel image should recreate it, no?
[12:47] <jfry> ikonia: my kernel is just the generic ubuntu i386 kernel... all I need to do is grab it's system map... it's not like it's some big special secret file
[12:48] <jfry> ikonia: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8874
[12:48] <ciscosurfer> kiamo: I believe you can use Prevu to set up a chroot environment to do with it what you like
[12:48] <soundray> !mozplugger | lufis
[12:48] <ubotu> mozplugger: Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.3-2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 192 kB
[12:48] <jfry> ikonia: oops... wrong link
[12:48] <ikonia> jfry: I know what your saying - I just don't like that method
[12:48] <kiamo> ok
[12:48] <ikonia> or trust ist stability
[12:48] <hjmills> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2581/
[12:48] <ikonia> trust its
[12:48] <datachild> anyone that can help me out?
[12:48] <hjmills> any ideas? it did happen rather randomly
[12:48] <stepedro_ita> hola
[12:49] <soundray> datachild: try execing fluxbox from $HOME/.xsessionrc
[12:50] <jfry> if someone could just send me a list of the files in the /boot partition, I bet I can figure it all out...  just replace those files with the correct ones, then install grub
[12:50] <unop> faLUCE,  I tried something like this -- it seems to work alright -- xcalc & xset dpms force off & sleep 3 & killall xcalc
[12:50] <datachild> will try soundray
[12:50] <jaye> can a person just use aiglx and not use either beryl or xgl? I don't want all the effects, I just want to continue using metacity with a true transparent terminal?
[12:50] <jfry> ikonia:  it's exactly what installing the binary kernel package does.... copies the kernel and system map to the /boot
[12:50] <ikonia> jfry:  hang on
[12:51] <unop> jfry, if i were you -- i would chroot into the environment .. and reinstall !grub and the kernel image
[12:51] <ikonia> jfry: http://pastebin.ca/325168
[12:51] <datachild> soundray, it doesnt work, still complains about that there's no XServer to connect to
[12:51] <jfry> ikonia: Thanks a ton... doesn't look too bad!
[12:52] <ikonia> nope
[12:52] <unop> datachild,  try this statement in .xinitrc -- nohup ~/.fluxbox/startup & wait $!
[12:52] <soundray> datachild: did you run startx after changing .xsessionrc ?
[12:53] <unop> datachild,  that or -- nohup `which startfluxbox` & wait $!
[12:53] <hjmills> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2584/
[12:53] <slyfox>  wow it appeares that Amarok does nto know how to handle m3u files. I open one and it is fine, then I want to lsiten to the enxt one and ANOTHER amarok opens up? !!  Please help.
[12:53] <hjmills> any ideas with a dpkg problem
[12:54] <mby> HELP , when I launch file in that way it works : php test.php   but when I try to launch it through webbrowser it asks what to do with file :/
[12:54] <bons> can i ask anout boot option? how to boot in CUI ??
[12:54] <faLUCE> unop: as said before, it doesn't work with MPLAYER
[12:54] <ikonia> mby: your wbe server is not configured to serve php
[12:54] <unop> slyfox,  does amarok play each song in the first m3u without opening up new instances?
[12:55] <datachild> soundray, startx doesnt work, but Xorg starts X
[12:55] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: recordmydesktop is a much more robust package, imo >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[12:55] <soundray> hjmills: try rerunning 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:55] <slyfox> unop: don't know as the site I am pulling this from, has each mp3 preview in m3u format and New Amarok opens up for each one
[12:55] <soundray> datachild: what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
[12:55] <hjmills> soundray, done that
[12:55] <datachild> "Command not found"
[12:55] <slyfox> unop: http://www.psyshop.com/shop/Vinyls/apr/apr1ep157.html
[12:56] <hjmills> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2584/
[12:56] <unop> faLUCE, well, makes sense, mplayer probably disurbs dpms bringing it out of suspension -- you are using mplayer to play audio files, is that right?
[12:56] <[Dan] > hey, i know its not "ubuntu" specific, but does anyone know which option i may have accidentally changed in beryl to make it maximise windows to only 1/3 of the screen, and have a funny "3-way" flip... like have three desktops on one?
[12:56] <odnigmann> why i dont receive a ARP packets when i use aireplay?
[12:56] <faLUCE> unop: video files
[12:56] <Milosch> upgraded to 2.6.19 and lost my keyboard, any ideas?
[12:56] <soundray> datachild: you need the xinit package then.
[12:56] <slyfox> [Dan] : #ubuntu-xgl
[12:57] <[Dan] > slyfox, awesome thanks
[12:57] <datachild> where/how do i get that package soundray?, i'm a newbie so..
[12:57] <soundray> hjmills: please paste the output from 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:57] <soundray> datachild: if you're a newbie, why do you want fluxbox?
[12:57] <Milosch> it's a standard ps/2 keyboard, and the config started with the one from 2.6.15-27 for amd
[12:57] <slyfox> Anyone help with Amarok ?
[12:57] <sparky7> Running windows xp... able to load ubuntu live edition 6.10 CD loads fine but I cannot establish internet connection... cable modem any help
[12:57] <Trifase> I hate gnome-bluetooth.
[12:58] <unop> faLUCE,  you're playing video files and have the screen blanked whilst doing so?? thats a bit odd
[12:58] <datachild> soundray, i want to learn.. advance a bit
[12:58] <datachild> anyway, apt-get?
[12:58] <odnigmann> why i dont receive a ARP packets when i use aireplay? nor arp neder sent packets..
[12:58] <hjmills> soundray, that goes normal but i managed to use dpkg --clear-avail and re run it to get back to normality
[12:58] <hjmills> soundray, thanks for the help though
[12:58] <jimfear> sparky > have you checked the menu system > administration > networking ?
[12:58] <soundray> datachild: how did you install?
[12:58] <odnigmann> just read packet
[12:58] <faLUCE> unop: i know, but i have my reasons:)
[12:58] <Daniel-23> hola
[12:59] <Daniel-23> alguien habla espaol?
[12:59] <soundray> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:59] <datachild> soundray, install what?
[12:59] <unop> slyfox,  i'm seeing links to three m3u's here .. so, if you click on one, one amarok opens up, if you click another, another opens up, is that what you are saying?
[12:59] <Trifase> !it
[12:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:59] <soundray> datachild: Ubuntu (I'm assuming that's what you installed)
[12:59] <datachild> soundray, by CD
[12:59] <Daniel-23> #ubuntu-es
[12:59] <Milosch> anyone run into anything like this?
[12:59] <odnigmann> "
[12:59] <unop> faLUCE,  well, why don't you blank the screen using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver?
[12:59] <LjL> Dani/join ##ubuntu-es
[12:59] <LjL> err, Daniel-23 /join #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <datachild> Server 6.06 LTS, soundray
[01:00] <faLUCE> unop which is the command for xscreensaver?
[01:00] <slyfox> unop: Yes
[01:00] <soundray> datachild: do you have an old or slow machine?
[01:00] <unop> faLUCE,  if you have XS runnings -- xscreensaver-command -blank
[01:00] <slyfox> unop: I want it to open up in One single Amarok
[01:01] <datachild> soundray, no it's a pretty new one
[01:01] <unop> faLUCE,  errm, sorry, make that  xscreensaver-command -lock
[01:01] <soundray> datachild: I suggest you run 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' as root, then.
[01:01] <soundray> datachild: that'll give you a workable environment without too much fiddling around.
[01:01] <Daniel-23> daniel-23/join ##ubuntu-es
[01:01] <unop> slyfox,  errm, check amarok's options/manpage to see if it supports single instances ..
[01:01] <Asl[a] n> ciscosurfer, tried istanbul. video's a bit choppy. especially when you're tryign to capture beryl
[01:02] <deafboy> unop: that's odd my keystroke shows up in keyboard shortcuts which is part of gnome but not xev
[01:02] <hjmills> Night!
[01:02] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: recordmydesktop is a much more robust package, imo >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[01:02] <datachild> hm.. i want as little things as possible since i want to set up a web/mail-server soundray
[01:02] <Asl[a] n> ciscosurfer, am checking it out now. thanks :)
[01:02] <faLUCE> unop:
[01:02] <faLUCE> paolo@paolo-laptop:~$ xscreensaver-command -lock
[01:02] <faLUCE> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[01:02] <soothsay> Anybody else having trouble with missing libc updates?
[01:02] <ciscosurfer> Asl[a] n: beryl has its own video cap plugin i belive
[01:02] <ciscosurfer> believe
[01:02] <unop> deafboy, yea, xev's pretty "old" (if i can say that.. it's not used to newer hardware/keystrokes)
[01:03] <unop> faLUCE,  you arent running xscreensaver then -- start it up -- xscreensaver&
[01:03] <soundray> datachild: in that case I suggest you install 'xubuntu-desktop'. It's a lot slimmer.
[01:03] <aoguy1989> how do i edit the grub loader menu
[01:03] <HymnToLife> soothsay, "libc" update sounds like something dangerous, could you please elaborate ?
[01:03] <soundray> aoguy1989: 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:03] <slyfox> unop: I do not see anything that does that ? :-(
[01:03] <aoguy1989> thanks
[01:03] <aoguy1989> =)
[01:03] <deafboy> unop: i see amarok's shortcut's over-ride the ones i set in there though
[01:03] <phaedrus_> aoguy1989:   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:03] <datachild> soundray, small and easy?
[01:03] <phaedrus_> oh
[01:04] <phaedrus_> xubuntu is not that much slimmer
[01:04] <phaedrus_> not worth using
[01:04] <phaedrus_> try   fluxbuntu
[01:04] <faLUCE> unop ok, but it doesn't make a blank screen....
[01:04] <unop> slyfox,  all i can suggest is move to xmms :) sorry, i really have no other suggestion ( i dunno if it is possible to do what you want either )
[01:04] <soundray> datachild: well, the gnome desktop (which you get with the ubuntu-desktop package) is the easiest.
[01:04] <faLUCE> it makes a coloured screen
[01:04] <phaedrus_> datachild:   #fluxbuntu
[01:04] <datachild> i don't want gnome or something like that..
[01:05] <fleischwurst> hi
[01:05] <soundray> datachild: you can always uninstall packages later when you've gathered some experience
[01:05] <fleischwurst> what does "Karma:  12321" in launchpad mean? is that good or bad? :s
[01:05] <soothsay> HymnToLife: Got a notification for new updates from 'update manager', get 'unable to fetch some archives, try --fix-missing' error
[01:05] <datachild> :/
[01:05] <unop> faLUCE,  you might need to configure xscreensaver so that it blanks the screen on activation -- xscreensaver-demo
[01:05] <farruinn> datachild: I haven't been following the conversation, but when you install ubuntu, use the "server" install, then there's a lot less to remove later
[01:06] <datachild> i'm using the server-iso
[01:06] <phaedrus_> datachild:   use fluxbuntu
[01:06] <datachild> phaedrus_ why?
[01:06] <HymnToLife> soothsay, what happens when you run sudo apt-get update from a terminal ?
[01:06] <phaedrus_> very very light
[01:06] <phaedrus_> all the power of ubuntu
[01:06] <phaedrus_> and its just as easy
[01:06] <fokuslee> hi im on a 64bit machine how do i get democracy to play flash videos
[01:06] <phaedrus_> the  iso is like  360mb
[01:07] <aoguy1989> how do i set it to not bring up the grub menu unless u press esc and to load windows by default
[01:07] <Milosch> I upgraded my kernel from 2.6.25-27 to 2.6.19 using make-kpkg and lost my keyboard, any ideas?  The config looks the same.
[01:07] <soothsay> HymnToLife: Nothing special. Looks normal
[01:07] <Milosch> no keyboard in console or X
[01:07] <HymnToLife> soothsay, upgrade, now ?
[01:07] <soothsay> HymnToLife: Yeah tried that :)
[01:07] <phaedrus_> datachild:   check out screens   www.fluxbuntu.com
[01:07] <datachild> phaedrus_, so i could use fluxbuntu to set up my email/web-server and then just uninstall the packages when i've got a bit more experiance
[01:08] <HymnToLife> soothsay, so Synaptic throws an error but not apt-get ?
[01:08] <unop> aoguy1989,  provided grub is able to boot windows with no problems, its just a matter of setting the default entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:08] <HymnToLife> that's definitely weird
[01:08] <soothsay> HymnToLife: More info-> 404 not found errors from 'upgrade
[01:08] <aoguy1989> ok
[01:08] <soothsay> HymnToLife: They both throw errors
[01:08] <phaedrus_> datachild:  absolutley...but you wont have to uninstall much
[01:08] <soothsay> HymnToLife: Was there a libc update pushed out today?
[01:08] <Milosch> ok, i guess that no one knows
[01:08] <mzuverink> Can anyone recommend a good rrs reader?
[01:09] <datachild> will it be safe phaedrus_?, or well enough for me with about 10 Users on my web/email-serv?
[01:09] <swampysc> I have been trying to install dancer and I got the ircd portion working fine, however I get "Unable to open /etc/dancer-services/services.conf
[01:09] <swampysc> " when I try to do ./dancer-services...any thoughts?
[01:09] <soothsay> mzuverink: Liferea is okay
[01:09] <LjL> mzuverink: rss i think you mean. i blelieve there's one called leafnode for gnome, though i use kde myself
[01:09] <mzuverink> soothsay, ok
[01:09] <HymnToLife> soothsay, not that I know of, but I haven't been using Ubuntu for months
[01:09] <mzuverink> LjL, rss
[01:10] <presario> how do i copy everything whats inside a directory to another ?
[01:10] <phaedrus_> datachild:  uh...yeah
[01:10] <LjL> mzuverink: nevermind, liferea was what i was thinking about
[01:10] <phaedrus_> i host apache on mine with php and mysql
[01:10] <LjL> presario: cp -a <dir> <dir>
[01:10] <LjL> Ubotu, tell presario about cli | presario, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:10] <soundray> datachild: fluxbuntu isn't an official ubuntu project (yet), so it won't have the same level of support as ubuntu, xubuntu or kubuntu.
[01:10] <mzuverink> LjL, yeah, leafnode is usenet
[01:10] <LjL> mzuverink: and it's a server, for that matter ;)
[01:10] <phaedrus_> soundray:  all the support i have ever needed came from this channel
[01:10] <phaedrus_> and the fluxbuntu channel
[01:10] <datachild> oh, okay then.. but it's got a good interface phaedrus_?
[01:11] <presario> LjL cp: illegal option -- a
[01:11] <faLUCE> unop: thnks for all, it seems a good way
[01:11] <phaedrus_> yeah fluxbox
[01:11] <faLUCE> I only have to disable the password when returning to the screen
[01:11] <phaedrus_> fluxbuntu uses fluxbox....you can run it with a 1980's caseo wrist watch...hehe
[01:11] <unop> faLUCE, cool, you can also deactivate the xscreesaver via the commandline -- check the manpage
[01:12] <LjL> presario: ... illegal option?
[01:12] <soundray> presario: what environment are you in?
[01:12] <presario> soundray gnome
[01:13] <unop> faLUCE,  eh, this needs no password :)   xscreensaver-command -activate
[01:13] <swampysc> " when I try to do ./dancer-services...any thoughts?
[01:13] <swampysc> I have been trying to install dancer and I got the ircd portion working fine, however I get "Unable to open /etc/dancer-services/services.conf
[01:13] <swampysc> " when I try to do ./dancer-services...any thoughts?
[01:13] <LjL> presario i can't think of a reason for that error, what did you type exactly?
[01:13] <faLUCE> unop: got it:)
[01:13] <soundray> presario: are you running cp in a terminal?
[01:14] <BlueEagle> soundray: I would assume that A) the file /etc/dancer-services/services.conf does not exist or B) The permissions of /etc/dancer-services/services is set so the person attempting to start the app can't read it.
[01:14] <BlueEagle> soundray: mt
[01:14] <BlueEagle> swampysc: I would assume that A) the file /etc/dancer-services/services.conf does not exist or B) The permissions of /etc/dancer-services/services is set so the person attempting to start the app can't read it.
[01:15] <swampysc> okay, thanks I will mess with ir more and see what happens
[01:16] <swampysc> thank you
[01:16] <unop> swampysc,  why are you invoking it as ./dancer-services? why is it not in the path?
[01:16] <faLUCE> unop: really thnks for all....
[01:16] <BlueEagle> swampysc: ls -l /etc/dancer-services
[01:16] <faLUCE> it's a solution which does work
[01:16] <LjL> swampysc: on my Edgy, dancer-ircd installed and started fine. is that the program you're trying to use?
[01:16] <BlueEagle> swampysc: that should show you the permissions.
[01:16] <unop> faLUCE,  cool :)
[01:17] <fleischwurst> what does "Karma:  12321" in launchpad mean? is that good or bad? :s
[01:17] <aoguy1989> what was the location of the grub menu settings again
[01:17] <ciscosurfer> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:17] <fokuslee> i don't understand why can't they make a 64bit flash player grrr
[01:17] <aoguy1989> thanks
[01:17] <ciscosurfer> :o)
[01:17] <swampysc> yes on all counts all I did was enter info in the conf files
[01:18] <czesiek> yo
[01:18] <czesiek> ;] 
[01:18] <BlueEagle> !hi
[01:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:18] <ciscosurfer> hello
[01:18] <farruinn> BlueEagle: wow, what was the point of that? :)
[01:18] <janga> hi
[01:18] <BlueEagle> janga: Just saying hi to czesiek and ciscosurfer.
[01:18] <czesiek> ;] 
[01:18] <LjL> Trifase: please avoid public away messages
[01:19] <BlueEagle> nick-misses al-mass.
[01:19] <BlueEagle> farruinn: Just saying hi to czesiek and ciscosurfer.
[01:19] <czesiek> eh i was using m$ products and was complaining it isn't stable
[01:19] <D7k> I have an ipod connected to my ubuntu box via firewire, I was wondering if there was a way I could test to make sure the hard drive in it is still good?
[01:19] <czesiek> i'm using ubuntu and complain that i cant install antyhing :P
[01:20] <LjL> czesiek: please be specific
[01:20] <aoguy1989> is it possible to use the windows boot loader to load ubuntu
[01:20] <BlueEagle> d7k: If you can read and write to it then it's still good.
[01:20] <LjL> aoguy1989: probably... with LILO or GRUB in the ubuntu partition. why though?
[01:20] <D7k> BlueEagle: I want to test it for dead sectors and such
[01:20] <czesiek> for example, i cannot make it read my UDF dvds :/
[01:20] <faLUCE> unop: bye and thnks
[01:21] <aoguy1989> cause i need to get my computer repaired they got got all angry wheni send it last time cause of grtub
[01:21] <swampysc> back in a while
[01:21] <swampysc> much thanks
[01:21] <soundray> D7k: do you want to format it?
[01:21] <D7k> I already have with the mac program
[01:21] <LjL> czesiek: hm, i don't have a DVD drive. can they be mounted manually? (sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever)
[01:22] <jvai> hi all, question: i copied a movie to my hd as an .ISO image, how can i convert it to a .wmv format to transfer to a windows box?
[01:22] <czesiek> it will say that it is burned with a wrong format :|
[01:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> jvai, how in gods name did you manage to copy as an iso
[01:22] <april_> jvai: ya dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun ah ah
[01:22] <BlueEagle> d7k: I know too little about the ipod to be able to answer that, sorry.
[01:22] <unop> jvai, extract the .wmv from the .iso
[01:22] <czesiek> non-UDF dvds are working fine
[01:23] <alefteris> hi everyone! where can i find the theme used at ubuntu wiki?
[01:23] <april_> ya dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, dididididii ya dun dun dun dun dun dundundundun
[01:23] <soundray> D7k: when you format a drive with a filesystem, using e.g. mkdosfs, you can use the -c option to check for bad blocks.
[01:23] <april_> ah ah
[01:23] <LjL> april_: no need
[01:23] <LjL> stop please
[01:23] <D7k> BlueEagle: well, I assume you check it the same way you check any other hard disk
[01:23] <jvai> ooo, i just used nautilus to copy blood diamonds..
[01:23] <jvai> it copied as an .ISO
[01:23] <BlueEagle> d7k: fsck then.
[01:23] <aoguy1989> how can i access the partition editor
[01:23] <D7k> soundray: isn't there a program that does the same? perhaps it is called badblocks
[01:23] <aoguy1989> in unbuntu
[01:23] <aoguy1989> ubuntu*
[01:23] <jvai> i can play it in totem, but.. what if i transfered it
[01:23] <BlueEagle> aoguy1989: gparted (might need installing)
[01:24] <aoguy1989> how do i get to it....
[01:24] <unop> D7k, fsck you mean?
[01:24] <LjL> czesiek: i'd say so... UDF in and by itself should definitely be supported
[01:24] <soundray> D7k: yes, but it is meant to be called from mkfs, and it is destructive.
[01:24] <D7k> unop: heh, maybe
[01:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> jvai, you need to extract the video files from the .iso then convert them
[01:24] <LjL> i'm not sure... if totem plays it, perhaps it's not really an ISO
[01:24] <soundray> D7k, unop: fsck won't check for bad blocks.
[01:24] <janga> jvai, you can watch the iso in windows with vlc
[01:25] <patrick__> !ntfs
[01:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:25] <april_> AH AH!
[01:25] <jvai>  BIGFUZZYJESUSi can do so with the tools i have now in dapper?
[01:25] <jrattner> Is there anyway to encrypt or secure my Gaim connection if the person on the other end is not running any security software
[01:25] <aoguy1989> how do i run gparted
[01:25] <unop> jrattner, nope .. both ends need to talk the same language in order to have a proper conversation and be understood :)
[01:26] <BlueEagle> aoguy1989: A) sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:26] <deafboy> does anyone know how to get keybindings back to the orginial setting?
[01:26] <soundray> aoguy1989: 'sudo gparted'
[01:26] <BlueEagle> aoguy1989: B) sudo gparted
[01:26] <aoguy1989> says sit not avaible
[01:26] <aoguy1989> it is
[01:26] <jrattner> Unop: I'm hooked up to college network and basically I don't want the admins seeing my conversations or anything whether it be via gaim or anything else.  Is there any steps I could take to secure my actions or conceal them
[01:27] <gnubie> !ntfs-3g
[01:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:27] <LjL> aoguy1989: what says what?
[01:27] <BlueEagle> !gparted
[01:27] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:27] <jormung> i have a computer with win98 and internet and the oither has ubuntu 6.06 no internet. i have a cross link cable but they cant see each other
[01:27] <BlueEagle> !info gparted
[01:27] <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[01:27] <LjL> jormung: what kind of cable?
[01:27] <LjL> yes it's in main
[01:28] <jormung> ljl it is a yellow ethernet cable
[01:28] <jenda> How do I create an alias with a variable? (eg.: foo bar = floom "bar" /foof/)
[01:28] <jvai> hey ppl.. ty all
[01:28] <farruinn> jormung: you need to configure win98 to share its internet connection then (no idea how to do that
[01:28] <soundray> jenda: you don't. If you need to pass parameters, it's time to write a script.
[01:28] <fleischwurst> what does "Karma:  12321" in launchpad mean? is that good or bad? :s
[01:28] <unop> jrattner,  well, get all your friends to use something a little more secure -- get them to use gaim too (with the encryption plugins)
[01:28] <jenda> soundray: yay :)
[01:29] <jrattner> Is there anyway to protect my internet usage in general?
[01:29] <fokuslee> anyone had luck making flash work with democracy on 64bit machine?
[01:29] <LjL> jormung: ethernet, alright. well, all i can think of is, give the two cards two IP addresses like 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2, and set one as default gateway on both. i suppose you've done this though
[01:29] <jenda> soundray: would you help me with that?
[01:29] <unop> jenda,  or a function -- function foobar { echo "foobar got $*"; }
[01:29] <jenda> hmm
[01:29] <soundray> jenda: okay
[01:30] <jormung> i havent done anuthing i am a noob at this whole networking stuff
[01:30] <jenda> soundray, unop: i'd need foo bar to do grep "bar" /some/path
[01:30] <jenda> the path is static
[01:30] <LjL> jrattner: no. if the application protocol you're using doesn't support encryption, there's no way to use encryption. if you have a second machine available, and that one is trusted (meaning, its network provider is - somewhat), you can tunnel through that machine
[01:30] <unop> jenda,  or a function -- function foobar { grep -i $1 $2 }  .. and then invoke it as -- foobar bar /some/path
[01:30] <jormung> LjL: Is the ethernet configuration supposed to be DHCP or static IP
[01:31] <Simples> After about 20 secs of anything Flash in firefox, it freezes
[01:31] <Simples> Any ideas?
[01:31] <jenda> unop: ok, I'll try that.
[01:31] <jrattner> LjL, so there is no reliable way to encrypt or protect communications between my laptop and the outside world while on my university network?
[01:31] <unop> jenda,  if it is static -- function foobar { grep -i $1 /some/path; }
[01:31] <jrattner> LjL, unless its a protected protocol
[01:31] <jenda> unop: yes, I thought of that, even :)
[01:31] <LjL> jormung: edit /etc/network/interfaces on your Ubuntu machine. remove the current eth0 entry, and add an entry that says        auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address 192.168.0.2 \n netmask 255.255.255.0 \n gateway 192.168.0.1
[01:31] <LjL> jormung: (the \n mean newline)
[01:32] <soundray> jenda: echo '#!/bin/bash' >~/bin/foo ; echo 'grep $1 /some/path' >>~/bin/foo ; chmod 700 ~/bin/foo
[01:32] <soundray> jenda: (not tested)
[01:32] <LjL> jormung: then on the windows machine, you need to do something similar - only i cannot tell you exactly, but you should set 192.168.0.1 as the IP address, 255.255.255.0 as the netmask and 192.168.0.1 as the gateway
[01:32] <Agrajag> jrattner: SSH tunnel to a trusted machine running a proxy?
[01:32] <LjL> jrattner: correct
[01:32] <jrattner> eww thats rough
[01:32] <LjL> Agrajag: well i suggested that already
[01:32] <jrattner> stupid admins :)
[01:32] <Agrajag> oh ok
[01:33] <jenda> soundray: ah, thanks ;)
[01:33] <jenda> soundray: i'll try in the user dir, though.
[01:33] <soundray> jenda: that is in the user dir. (~ is shorthand for $HOME)
[01:33] <jrattner> Is it possible for me to "password protect" a directory in my home folder?
[01:34] <LjL> jormung: note that if you don't just want to let the two machines communicate, but you actually want the Ubuntu machine to access the Internet, that might be a tough one, given that i don't believe Windows 98 has very strong support for NAT ("Internet Sharing", whatever they call it)
[01:34] <soundray> jenda: you should first 'mkdir ~/bin' of course
[01:34] <jenda> unop: why does that give me a "> " console?
[01:34] <LjL> jrattner: encrypt it. but you'll have to decrypt before using
[01:34] <jenda> soundray: I'll try that as soon as functions fail :)
[01:34] <kiamo> :(
[01:34] <jrattner> LjL, poop this day is going well : )
[01:34] <unop> jenda,  somewhere you haven't terminated an expression -- it's supposing you are going to type more of the command in
[01:34] <LjL> jrattner: however, if that's still your university computer, and you might have reason to believe that you're being keylogged, that will be of little use
[01:34] <jenda> ok
[01:34] <deafboy> does anyone know how to change key bindings back to their original setting?
[01:35] <jormung> LjL: that is exactly what i wanted to do but ill try your first suggestion out
[01:35] <jrattner> LjL, are then legal issues surrounding the idea of them keylogging me accross the network
[01:35] <kiamo> DDD:
[01:35] <LjL> jormung: well, you need to search for "windows-98 internet connection sharing" on google, or similar. you could also try asking on ##windows. as for the Ubuntu side, it's really just a matter of doing what i've told you and then an "ifupdown eth0"...
[01:35] <soundray> jenda: your functions will only be remembered as long as the shell where you defined it is running. A script will work next time you log in.
[01:36] <kiamo> ok so i cant play any video files at ALL and mp3s crash X in Totem but not VLC. please someone.... lol im desperate....
[01:36] <LjL> jrattner: i have no idea, and even if i had, it probably wouldn't apply since i don't believe we're in the same country
[01:36] <unop> soundray, well, as are aliases .. but you can always put the functions in ~/.bash_aliases so they will be sourced on every instance of bash
[01:36] <jrattner> LjL, hehe alright thanks for the help
[01:37] <soundray> unop: where would you put a function -- .bashrc ?
[01:37] <LjL> jrattner: actually, there is a way now that i think of it. it's called tor -- it's still (very refined) tunnelling to a proxy machine, but the proxy doesn't have to be provided by you. i'm pretty sure it encrypts
[01:37] <LjL> jrattner: still a determined administrator *will* be able to sniff your packets if they have access to your machine
[01:37] <unop> soundray,  you could put them in anyof the .bash files -- .bash(i think), .bashrc, .bash_aliases, .profile even
[01:37] <jenda> unop: could I PM you the function? I can't find the mistake
[01:37] <unop> jenda,  sure
[01:38] <LjL> jrattner: i also strongly recommend against using tor for any kind of high-bandwidth transfers
[01:38] <jrattner> LjL, yeh...i wonder about the admins here though, I seem to have the ability to sniff the network for anything
[01:38] <jrattner> LjL, do u have a URL to tor
[01:38] <LjL> !tor | jrattner
[01:38] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[01:38] <jormung> LjL icant save the changes to interfaces and i cant change the permissions
[01:38] <unop> jenda,  put a semicolon at the end of the expression :) before '}'
[01:38] <kmc> hey guys
[01:38] <deafboy> does anyone know how to change key bindings back to their original settings?
[01:38] <jrattner> What packet sniffer would you suggest using on ubuntu (for easiness) ethereal? I want to see what I'm doing
[01:39] <jenda> unop: argh :)
[01:39] <jenda> unop: thanks
[01:39] <LjL> jrattner: as for the url, http://tor.eff.org/
[01:39] <unop> jenda,  yw :)
[01:39] <kmc> i am running into this problem with encfs/fuse and rsync
[01:39] <LjL> jormung: you need to edit as root. "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[01:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jormung about root | jormung, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:39] <kmc> https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3752
[01:39] <soundray> deafboy: I don't think there is a way to reset them all at once.
[01:40] <unop> jenda, you might also liek to consider egrep instead of grep :)
[01:40] <kmc> anybody know if we are getting updates for fuse/encfs?
[01:40] <jrattner> !packet sniffer
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packet sniffer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <jenda> unop: nah, this is good enough I think :)
[01:40] <[Hyarion] > hi, recent Ubuntu recruit here, I'm loving it but for some reason Ubuntu freezes a couple times a day, I have to manually restart the computer, it primarily happens when using Firefox, but the entire computer freezes except for the mouse, any ideas?
[01:41] <LjL> jrattner: i suggest typing "apt-cache search packet sniff" if you have Universe enabled, otherwise enable it or search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:41] <unop> jenda, cool, your boat :)
[01:41] <madman__> i need to allow ports, i do with iptables and then when i run a nmap on the localhost i do not see the ports open :s
[01:42] <jenda> unop: thanks ;)
[01:42] <unop> madman__,  a portscan on localhost (127.0.0.1) is not the same as a portscan on the physical interface's IP address
[01:42] <soundray> [Hyarion] : examine /var/log/syslog, looking for entries relating to the point in time where it froze
[01:42] <LjL> madman__: all ports are "allowed" by default. if you can't connect to them, it's either because there's no service running on them, or because you have a router that blocks them
[01:42] <madman__> i will check that out
[01:42] <madman__> thanks!
[01:42] <soundray> [Hyarion] : you may find something like a kernel oops.
[01:42] <cokeslut> sup
[01:43] <unop> LjL, errm, that so depends on how iptables is setup -- you can setup iptables to allow just the services you need and a final rule that just drops everything else
[01:43] <LjL> unop: that's what i do on my server, but that's certainly not the way ubuntu comes by default
[01:43] <soundray> unop: he said "by default"
[01:43] <Psyco> aew
[01:43] <Zuph> Quick question:  What file system should I format an external drive that I want windows and Linux machines to be able to read and write to?
[01:43] <mcquaid> trying to install feisty with the alt cd.  it blue screens after the keyboard select and just sits there.  anyone know a workaround?
[01:43] <kiamo> !breezy
[01:43] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[01:43] <LjL> Ubotu, tell stoorty^away about away | stoorty^away, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:44] <kiamo> !dapper
[01:44] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:44] <unop> LjL,  soundray .. thats crazy -- why even have iptables if thats the case .. rubbish
[01:44] <LjL> !msg the bot | kiamo
[01:44] <ubotu> kiamo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:44] <LjL> unop: ?
[01:44] <soundray> Zuph: ext3 -- then install ext2ifs in Windows. If you can't install a Windows driver, use fat32.
[01:44] <[Hyarion] > thanks soundray, this seems to be the last cmd; "/USR/SBIN/CRON[6690] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)" so maybe its some cron job freezing it up? I haven't added any...
[01:44] <unop> LjL, allow everything by default?
[01:44] <LjL> unop: what are you talking about? iptables is just a front-end to the kernel's built-in netfilter feature. obviously just about any distribution has the iptables command installed, because it's quite a basic command. doesn't mean there's a reason in the world to block ports by default
[01:45] <kiamo> sorry LjL
[01:45] <Zuph> I would prefer not to have to install a driver in windows.  I'll go with fat 32.  Thanks.
[01:45] <LjL> unop: there's nothing specific that says "allow everything by default". it's just that, if you don't tell the kernel anything, it just *does* allow everything by default
[01:45] <soundray> [Hyarion] : that's a possibility. Find out what cron.hourly does and run it from a terminal, see if it freezes
[01:45] <LjL> unop: and i believe quite a few other distribution don't touch that
[01:45] <Spasticteapot> Hello, folks!
[01:45] <madman__> k i added the ports i needed in my router.
[01:45] <madman__> see i need to use check point vpn1 in vmware to access work.
[01:45] <Spasticteapot> What would you reccomend for a wifi manager under XFCE?
[01:45] <LjL> if you want iptables rules, unop, you add them. which is probably a good idea if you have services running. if you don't (which is the way ubuntu comes by default), it's not quite needed.
[01:45] <madman__> but it seems to be unable to connect.
[01:45] <petal> How do I start a program inside a terminal-session so that it doesn't shutdown when I close the terminal-window itself?
[01:45] <unop> LjL, by default, are there any rules set by iptables ?
[01:46] <Spasticteapot> Also, what are the terminal commands for wireless scanning?
[01:46] <LjL> unop: no
[01:46] <unop> LjL,  right, thats ok then -- because obviously iptables has nothing to do then and traffic is going to traverse interfaces unhampered (obviously)
[01:46] <jrib> petal: use screen, or nohup.  Or disown the job
[01:47] <unop> LjL, i thought you meant there were iptables rules in place that allowed traffic by default
[01:47] <LjL> unop: no, there aren't any rules... but the effect of that *is* the same
[01:47] <jason_> How do I add more screen resolutions in Ubuntu
[01:48] <jrib> !fixres | jason_
[01:48] <ubotu> jason_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:48] <LjL> unop: but then users somehow have a common misconception that, when "their ports are closed", they need to use iptables command on their Ubuntu -- which they generally just really to set up NAT on their DSL or cable router
[01:48] <unop> LjL, no contest on that one, just a misunderstanding
[01:48] <nbalsalobre> ola
[01:49] <LjL> unop: uhm, my grammar didn't make much sense in that last sentence, but anyway. s/which/when/, s/really to/really want to/, s/use iptables/use the iptables/
[01:49] <kiamo> how do I build a 32bit enviroment in Prevu?
[01:49] <kmc> anybody installed FUSE 2.6.1?
[01:49] <petal> jrib: Thank you! nohup did the job!
[01:49] <kmc> ubuntu is still stuck with 2.5.3
[01:49] <kmc> there is a nasty bug with rsync/encfs/fuse
[01:50] <kmc> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2006-May/015385.html
[01:50] <soundray> kiamo: what's Prevu?
[01:50] <riotkittie> !prevu
[01:50] <ubotu> prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[01:50] <kiamo> there you go :)
[01:50] <soundray> riotkittie: thanks
[01:50] <yopad> ideas on system 76?
[01:50] <riotkittie> my pleasure.
[01:51] <Crescendo> What's a good volume leveler for Ubuntu?  I want to level out the volume across my entire music collection.
[01:51] <soundray> kiamo: since it's not in dapper or edgy, you should ask about prevu in #ubuntu+1
[01:51] <kiamo> ah thankyou soundray :)
[01:51] <turbolover> hey
[01:52] <pepe> hi
[01:52] <m12> is it possible to turn off "suggestions"  in the Firefox search field?
[01:52] <turbolover> i installed n ati radeon driver from ati's website and it farked up my X
[01:52] <turbolover> do not know how to locate and remove the driver
[01:52] <unop> m12,  err do you mean "previously typed entries"?
[01:53] <ShadowX> sup guys
[01:53] <m12> unop:  No, I mean suggestions
[01:53] <georgy> turbolover : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix it
[01:53] <bithunter> hi! i'm looking for a tool called "cardctl". i can't find it via synaptic. any ideas?
[01:53] <turbolover> thx
[01:53] <ShadowX> anyone here able to help me set up dual monitors?
[01:53] <kiamo> hey ShadowX
[01:53] <ShadowX> sup kiamo
[01:53] <kiamo> shadow i may be able to
[01:54] <yopad> hey shawdow
[01:54] <unop> m12, not that i know off -- you might like to try asking in #firefox (both here and on irc.mozilla.org)
[01:54] <kiamo> that was my first ever prob :D
[01:54] <ShadowX> sup yopad
[01:54] <m12> ok
[01:54] <ShadowX> what was kiamo?
[01:54] <Fireware> weee
[01:54] <kiamo> what gfx card you got ShadowX?
[01:54] <ardchoille42> !info cardctl
[01:54] <ubotu> Package cardctl does not exist in any distro I know
[01:54] <ShadowX> well, my nvidia is working cuz its my main screen
[01:54] <kiamo> setting up my dual monitors
[01:54] <kiamo> does your gfx card have 2 outputs?
[01:54] <ShadowX> I have SiS onboard
[01:54] <ShadowX> I have 2 cards
[01:54] <turbolover> um
[01:55] <turbolover> could you repeat that
[01:55] <turbolover> it scrolled off screen
[01:55] <Crescendo> What's a good volume leveler for Ubuntu?  I want to level out the volume across my entire music collection.
[01:55] <LjL> Crescendo: i suppose "apt-cache search replay gain" will help a bit, though it only shows two possibly useful packages
[01:55] <riotkittie> uh. does your CLI client not allow you to scroll up? :P
[01:55] <mevets_> is there a good mouse gestures app for ubuntu?
[01:55] <zodiak> does anyone know how to set up wireless
[01:56] <bithunter> ubotu: it has something to do with pcmcia management. i found some tutorials always mentioning a tool called cardctl. i have installed pcmciautils, but still i cant find cardctl.
[01:56] <kiamo> ShadowX i use ati so its a bit different, but do you have an nvidia thing in your applications menus?
[01:56] <barnabas> how do i access nvidia menu?
[01:56] <soundray> !wireless | zodiak
[01:56] <ubotu> zodiak: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:56] <turbolover> !reconfigure X
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <zodiak> i found my card and thanks
[01:56] <turbolover> !x
[01:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:56] <HymnToLife> barnabas, define "nvidia menu"
[01:56] <LjL> mevets_: the only one i can see is
[01:56] <LjL> !wayv
[01:56] <ubotu> wayv: Experimental hand writing/gesture recognition program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-2.1 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:56] <yopad> question:  can i run ubuntu and xubuntu at the same time?
[01:56] <Fireware> !man
[01:56] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:56] <ShadowX> no i dont
[01:56] <yopad> on a different screen
[01:56] <Fireware> hehe
[01:56] <Fireware> !man man
[01:56] <riotkittie> turbolover: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man man - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <LjL> yopad: no, but you can have GNOME and Xfce running at the same time
[01:57] <bithunter> oh.. its a bot.. ;-)
[01:57] <yopad> LjL: thanks...
[01:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell yopad about xfce | yopad, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:57] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[01:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:57] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[01:57] <mevets_> cool im going to try wayv out
[01:57] <turbolover> xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[01:57] <turbolover> i am on DD
[01:57] <turbolover> !xserver-xorg
[01:57] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[01:57] <HymnToLife> many*
[01:58] <LjL> turbolover: try installing the "xorg" package
[01:58] <leafw> !ubotu mp3
[01:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:58] <[GnB] jabberwocky> hey guys, know if there's any method to downgrade nvidia video drivers to an earlier version?
[01:58] <bithunter> !pcmcia
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <kiamo> ShadowX sorry i dont know if ill be of any use, id imagine its all in editing your Xorg (obviously) if your graphics cards are on SLI then perhaps theres a driver that would treat them as one and give you the options i hvae for extending my monitors (i assume thats what you want to do)
[01:58] <fluvvell> !cups
[01:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:58] <soundray> HymnToLife: maybe because the pronunciation is the same, and so few words in English end in a U
[01:58] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, using the Ubuntu packages or the installer from nvidia ?
[01:58] <bithunter> !beer
[01:58] <LjL> [GnB] jabberwocky: uninstall the current version with --purge, remove the repository with the newer version from sources.list, and reinstall. that's if you installed from packages of course
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <LjL> !bot abuse
[01:58] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[01:59] <turbolover> uhhh
[01:59] <HymnToLife> !msgthebot
[01:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:59] <bithunter> sorry
[01:59] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife, ljl: i installed old drivers via apt, installed new ones via download from nvidia's site.
[01:59] <turbolover> i think ive heard another variation
[01:59] <turbolover> other than xserver-xorg
[02:00] <HymnToLife> LjL, wouldn't it be better to have !bot abuse as an alias to !botabuse ?
[02:00] <LjL> [GnB] jabberwocky: then i recommend against trying that. however, if the stuff from the nvidia site comes with an uninstaller..
[02:00] <LjL> HymnToLife: it would in theory, and it was probably an oversight, but i find the alternate version handier at times ;)
[02:00] <turbolover> !dpkg-reconfigure
[02:00] <[GnB] jabberwocky> LjL: yeah, i see why now. i don't remember there being an uninstaller, but ill redownload  and try the readme >.>
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <alex_mayorga> hello there
[02:01] <LjL> turbolover: "man dpkg-reconfigure" in a shell
[02:01] <kiamo> Hi HymnToLife, I now cannot play any video files at all and trying to play mp3s in totem restarts X too...
[02:01] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, If I were you, I'd install the new one with the nvidia installer as well, I personnally never had any problem doing that
[02:02] <HymnToLife> it will automagically uninstall the old one (so I guess it's possible to run the uninstall part alone)
[02:02] <imme> Good evening
[02:02] <alex_mayorga> how do I reconfigure mi video, I've resorted to VESA, but my laptop card is actually ATI, how do I make it re-detect?
[02:02] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: know of any major changes in this driver? it broke both wow and steam, and i'm beginning to think it did something to X
[02:02] <alex_mayorga> imme: hi
[02:02] <LjL> alex_mayorga: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:02] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, which version is it ?
[02:02] <imme> What do you guys make of this??? "usb 5-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4"   I get _many_ of them...
[02:03] <alex_mayorga> LjL: just that?
[02:03] <ShadowX> omgosh! XMMS's voice removal plugin RAWKS
[02:03] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: driver version?
[02:03] <HymnToLife> kiamo, maybe reinstall your graphics drivers ?
[02:03] <LjL> alex_mayorga: no. it will ask you a ton of questions - though don't be scared, you can use the default for most of them
[02:03] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, yrp
[02:03] <HymnToLife> yep*
[02:03] <[GnB] jabberwocky> 9746
[02:04] <kiamo> HymnToLife, ok
[02:04] <HymnToLife> I have it running too ATM (in FBSD though) and it runs OpenGL game without any problem
[02:04] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: hmm, i'll try resetting X
[02:04] <kiamo> HymnToLife, is there a way to clean the old ones out? so that im starting afresh.. is this nessasary?
[02:04] <soundray> imme: does this occur every time you plug the device in?
[02:04] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, maybe try reinstalling it ?
[02:04] <turbolover> eh just gonna reconfigure everythign cant go wrng there
[02:04] <imme> soundray: Nope.
[02:05] <imme> soundray: Or at least, not right away...
[02:05] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: oops, didn't mean [ctrl]  [alt]  [<-] , i meant sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:05] <ring> hello I'm having torubles getting X started.  I have a x800xl and a dell 2005fpw monitor. After starting x the monitor just blanks and sits there.  I cannot ctrl+alt+bksp out of x or switch any virtual consoles...does nayone have any ideas?
[02:05] <imme> soundray: it's ext3 I use it as my primary drive.
[02:05] <HymnToLife> kiamo, there must certainly be one but I'm not familiar with ATi drivers
[02:05] <[GnB] jabberwocky> durrrp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:05] <Cold_FiRe> hey when i put the ubuntu disk in my windows computer and the autorun comes up it says ubuntu 6.06 (DiskTree) but i downloaded edgy not 6.06????
[02:05] <alex_mayorga> LjL: would that bring down my system? I'm uploading a rather big crash report to Malone
[02:05] <soundray> imme: your primary drive is connected via USB?
[02:05] <pb> I have a working ubuntu edgy hard drive and I want to change the motherboard or move it to a different hardware set-up..... anyway to convince it to look and change hardware?
[02:05] <LjL> alex_mayorga: not until you restart X
[02:05] <HymnToLife> [GnB] jabberwocky, and I meant, running the install script again so it reinstalls the driver :p
[02:06] <kiamo> !ati
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:06] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: >.<
[02:06] <wedgeV> how can i make the display not fade to black after 5min idle time?
[02:06] <au_> hi all... how can I work with all variables passed to a script? Just I want to assign a string of all parameters to a variable.. in bash
[02:06] <soundray> wedgeV: System-Preferences-Screensaver
[02:06] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wedgeV: screensaver settings
[02:07] <soundray> au_: 'variable=$*'
[02:07] <au_> soundray: tnx
[02:07] <alex_mayorga> LjL: would that take care of audio as well, I wonder if there's an app that would do reconfigure and ask me when I heard good sound?
[02:07] <imme> soundray: no, I just haven't got any other drives. :)
[02:07] <kiamo> whats the apt-get uninstall cmd?
[02:08] <imme> soundray: it's /dev/sda*
[02:08] <HymnToLife> alex_mayorga, no, X is for display only
[02:08] <HymnToLife> kiamo, apt-get remove
[02:08] <kiamo> ah yes
[02:08] <kiamo> thanks
[02:08] <LjL> alex_mayorga: that's got nothing to do with audio
[02:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell alex_mayorga about sound | alex_mayorga, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:08] <soundray> imme: let me ask in a different way: have you installed ubuntu to a USB device?
[02:08] <alex_mayorga> LjL, thanks
[02:08] <imme> soundray: Yup.
[02:08] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: telinit 3? know anything about this?
[02:09] <[GnB] jabberwocky> HymnToLife: i got it changed, im just wondering what it means
[02:09] <LjL> [GnB] jabberwocky: it brings the system to runlevel 3. i'm not sure it has any use in ubuntu
[02:09] <sasalli> hi to all! is it possible install GRUB standalone for boot period to sata hdd? thanks a lot.
[02:09] <soundray> imme: when those errors occur, is anything else still working?
[02:09] <ctothej> Is it easy to copy files from a subversion repository to a live web directory? Effectively, i want to use subversion on a test server and deploy the ready web site to the live server when I need to.
[02:10] <au_> soundray: can I somehow works with variables 2 to 8? $2-8?
[02:10] <imme> soundray: Everything is still working, it just mounts that partition as read-only, which is kind of annoying, since it is my web-dev. partition... :S
[02:10] <au_> *work
[02:10] <emubite> Is it possible to add a time delay to startup items (using Gnome's "Sessions" manager)?
[02:10] <[GnB] jabberwocky> uh, install kernel linker? ...anyone?
[02:10] <au_> emubite: cron?
[02:11] <emubite> Total newbie here (coming from OS X).  Can you detail what I should do?
[02:11] <deafboy> does anyone know how to restore keyboard shortcuts to defaults?
[02:11] <zodiak> is there a program called network manager
[02:11] <au_> emubite: read www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:11] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:11] <emubite> Will do.  I've read a bit of it, but I'll check to see if it's in there.
[02:12] <soundray> au_: I'm sure you can, but I don't know how off the top of my head. TLDP has a great guide called Advanced Bash Scripting.
[02:12] <imme> soundray: I'll pastebin some more info from the dmesg...
[02:13] <soundray> imme: no
[02:13] <soundray> imme: not here at least
[02:13] <soundray> !pastebin | imme
[02:13] <ubotu> imme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <riotkittie> network-manager-gnome?
[02:13] <AOGuy1989> grub location is what again
[02:13] <ring> au_: you probably want to look at perl for this -- if you really dont want to use perl pipe $* to awk or something to get the various commands
[02:13] <bruenig> /boot/grub
[02:13] <HymnToLife> adious__,
[02:13] <HymnToLife> (sorry)
[02:13] <HymnToLife> AOGuy1989, /boot/grub
[02:13] <zodiak> anyone use backtrack ( i know im in the ubuntu forum)
[02:13] <AOGuy1989> the settingsone
[02:13] <AOGuy1989> menu.lst right
[02:14] <HymnToLife> the settings are in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:14] <AOGuy1989> thx
[02:14] <soundray> emubite: try putting 'sleep 10 ; yourcommand' in the sessions manager
[02:14] <bruenig> anyone know how to normalize the volume of a library of music
[02:14] <emubite> I'll give that a shot.  Is that 10 seconds?
[02:14] <soundray> bruenig: there is a plugin for xmms that does that on playback.
[02:15] <Alarm> hello. i did just follow some instructions to install lmsensors on: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29 . but finally it cant read temperature from my cpu as it doesnt not support my motherboard. the point is that the .sh files that says to make in the instructions creates 36 new devices. and now i dont know how to remove them and restore my system
[02:15] <soundray> emubite: yes
[02:15] <emubite> Okay.  I'll give it a try and check back in.  (Need to reboot to test it...)
[02:15] <emubite> Thanks for the help!
[02:15] <bruenig> no way to do it on the file level
[02:15] <bruenig> ?
[02:15] <soundray> bruenig: it's not good practice to change your music files, because /piano/ pieces will suffer.
[02:15] <soundray> bruenig: I'm sure there is something that does it on the file level though
[02:16] <soundray> emubite: you can just log out and log in again to test
[02:16] <bruenig> All I can find is this script called crip but it seems to not work unless I am ripping something too
[02:16] <soundray> too late...
[02:16] <AOGuy1989> ok
[02:16] <AOGuy1989> now how to i add a resoultion
[02:16] <AOGuy1989> to ubuntu
[02:17] <imme> I know soundray. ;) :D
[02:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell AOGuy1989 about fixres | AOGuy1989, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:17] <LjL> AOGuy1989: short answer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:17] <soundray> imme: I'm glad
[02:17] <AOGuy1989> thank you
[02:17] <zodiak> hi... im using wireless assistant and i found my access point and i hit connect and it just wont connect and when it does i cant use the web browser... do i have to turn something on or turn something off?
[02:17] <AOGuy1989> =)
[02:17] <ShadowX> anyone know of a REALLY good website for free games for Ubuntu?
[02:17] <ShadowX> GOOD games too, not lame ones :S
[02:18] <LjL> !good
[02:18] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ShadowX about games | ShadowX, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:18] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:18] <frogzoo> ShadowX: linuxgames.com - includes non free
[02:18] <ShadowX> thanks
[02:18] <imme> soundray: http://pastebin.com/865403
[02:18] <imme> Anyone else interested in Ubuntu going bezerk? check http://pastebin.com/865403   :P
[02:19] <lefilou> Bonjour
[02:20] <HymnToLife> !fr | lebowski
[02:20] <ubotu> lebowski: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> !fr | lefilou
[02:20] <ubotu> lefilou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> lebowski, sorry about that :)
[02:21] <imme> soundray: sorry, I only now see that they cut down my paste... :S :(
[02:21] <soundray> imme: no wonder
[02:21] <AOGuy1989> ok the link in the thing about fix res was not much helpto me i am not veyr computer smart i jsut want ot add the res 1920x1200
[02:21] <computer13137> Hi
[02:21] <turbolover> yay! X works now, had to install it.. thoughi had it before
[02:21] <turbolover> how would X up and uninstall itself
[02:21] <AOGuy1989> how would i do that
[02:22] <Noah0504> What the easiest way to install ATI's drivers in Ubuntu 6.06?  Just follow the instructions on their site?
[02:22] <LjL> AOGuy1989: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[02:22] <bruenig> !nvidia | Noah0504
[02:22] <ubotu> Noah0504: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:22] <LjL> though i'm not sure such a high and weird resolution is listed
[02:22] <HymnToLife> !ati | Noah0504
[02:22] <AOGuy1989> yes something about not being installed in terminal
[02:22] <Noah0504> Thanks guys.
[02:22] <bruenig> !thanks | Noah0504
[02:22] <ubotu> Noah0504: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:22] <LjL> AOGuy1989: uh, specifically?
[02:22] <Noah0504> haha
[02:22] <emubite> Still trying to figure out how to delay the start of a program that I've added to the Sessions manager in Gnome.
[02:23] <emubite> The 'sleep 10; checkgmail' didn't work. ;(
[02:23] <soundray> imme: there are three ways to attack this: 1) use another USB port, avoiding any hubs if possible; 2) add a new USB interface and try with that; 3) replace the device.
[02:23] <bruenig> emubite, does that work when you put it in the terminal?
[02:23] <soundray> emubite: how d'you mean "didn't work"?
[02:23] <emubite> Let me give it try.
[02:23] <emubite> Hold on.
[02:23] <AOGuy1989> sent it in a message
[02:23] <AOGuy1989> ljl
[02:24] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:24] <computer13137> Hey, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu.  I have tried with Breezy Badger and Edgy Eft, and can find no reason why it won't run.  I have used the Live CD, and gotten the same error.  The first dialog is "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not setup correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?  <Yes> <No>"
[02:24] <emubite> Ah...yes it does work via the terminal.  It's not working in the Sessions manager for some reason.
[02:24] <LjL> i have a USB to IRDA adaptor. i can manage to use "irdadump" and confirm i can see another device. however, any attempt to transfer files using the OBEX protocol (irxfer, ircp, etc) result in a "no route to host" error (for programs that are specific, others just say they can't connect). what could be the culprit? the irda0 interface seems to be configure
[02:24] <computer13137> Does anyone know what's wrong?
[02:24] <imme> soundray: Add a new USB interface? :S
[02:25] <bruenig> emubite, try putting it in a script and then having the session manager run that. Do sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/checkgmailstartup
[02:25] <AOGuy1989> ok i see the thing now what
[02:25] <computer13137> My video card is an nVidia GeForce 5500FX.  This happens with a CLEAN install, or while running the Live CD.
[02:25] <AndErsArTiG> hello
[02:25] <computer13137> Hi
[02:25] <LjL> AOGuy1989: answer the questions. it'll come to asking you about resolutions
[02:25] <bruenig> emubite, then on the first line put #!/bin/bash and on the second line put sleep 10; checkgmail
[02:25] <soundray> imme: yes. It could be a problem with your mainboard USB hardware, and one way to fix that is to plug in a PCI or PCMCIA USB interface.
[02:25] <ring> computer13137: what does Xorg.0.log say also have you tried the safe mode install (or whatever its called)
[02:26] <computer13137> Stby.
[02:26] <emubite> I'll give that try.
[02:26] <bruenig> emubite, then save the file, and do sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/checkgmailstartup
[02:26] <bruenig> emubite, make sure you change your session manager to have the command checkgmailstartup after you finish all of that
[02:26] <emubite> Sounds good.  I'll give it a try and report back.
[02:26] <AndErsArTiG> when i plug in my usb cam it starts a screen where i can choose ignore or look at the pictures, but that programm don't find any picture .... but digikam can see them .... how i can change the program which is starting ?
[02:26] <AOGuy1989> right i did that its still not on the list
[02:26] <lufis> Is there any way to create custom Nautilus emblems?
[02:26] <AOGuy1989> now what
[02:26] <computer13137> ring:  Where would that file be?
[02:27] <ring> its in /var/log
[02:27] <ring> specifically you want to look towards the end
[02:27] <ring> for the error
[02:27] <ring> nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:27] <AOGuy1989> brb
[02:27] <soundray> AndErsArTiG: System-Preferences-Removable drives and media
[02:27] <imme> soundray: Ah okay, so that's different hardware.
[02:27] <soundray> imme: yeah
[02:28] <HymnToLife> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344369 <= someone wants to break into someone else's computer methinks
[02:28] <imme> soundray: Anyways, I pasted a more relevant part of my dmesg, care to check once more?
[02:28] <tickus> anyone help me out with a abit it7 max onboard highpoint hpt374 controller and Ubuntu Edgy?
[02:28] <imme> soundray: It's 20 lines. :) :http://pastebin.com/865405
[02:29] <computer13137> ring: Hope you don't mind I don't want to cp\paste it in here, and it's not on this terminal, so I FTPed it to one of my servers...  Here's the log... please review.  http://www.unlimitednethosting.com/temp/Xorg.0.log
[02:29] <Spasticteapot> Oh, fuzz...
[02:30] <computer13137> ?
[02:30] <turbolover> hey have you ever had X uninstall itself? mine borked and i had to install it again, not sure what wiped it out
[02:30] <soundray> imme: is this a hard disk or a flash disk?
[02:30] <computer13137> tubolover:  Is that question directed at me?
[02:31] <turbolover> directed at anyone who cares to answer it
[02:31] <computer13137> lol.. i thought you were talking to me since I'm talking about X.  I just know that stuff doesn't uninstall itself.. you sure it was ever installed?
[02:31] <imme> soundray: hard disk
[02:31] <ring> computer13137: can you upload your xorg.conf as well
[02:31] <imme> soundray: Western Digital
[02:31] <computer13137> ring: location?
[02:31] <turbolover> yeah dude i was running it fine before and after ati driver and restart it crashed on itself
[02:32] <turbolover> and it wouldnt reinstall
[02:32] <ring> computer13137: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:32] <turbolover> err reconfigure
[02:32] <computer13137> I can't updatedb, since I have 200GB of ntfs partitions full of data sitting around too :P  Takes too long
[02:32] <computer13137> lol
[02:32] <dosnlinux> is there someone I could talk to about Ubuntu internals?
[02:32] <turbolover> so i had to to an apt-get install xserver-xorg
[02:32] <turbolover> then typed startx and everything is as it was before
[02:32] <computer13137> Done... link...
[02:32] <tickus> Anyone have a few mins to give me some insight on installing Edgy onto a sata drive?
[02:32] <computer13137> Ring:  http://www.unlimitednethosting.com/temp/xorg.conf
[02:32] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:32] <arnold> Hello
[02:33] <HymnToLife> !hi | arnold
[02:33] <ubotu> arnold: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:33] <arnold> Where can I find a good book to teach Linux/Unix administration?
[02:33] <computer13137> n00b:  Any idea what's in that slot?  It's your pcmcia slot I think.
[02:33] <HymnToLife> arnold, Linux NEtwork Administrator's Guide (O'REilly), definitelty a must-have
[02:34] <NkZ> Greetings. I have an Issue with Open Office Word Processor. I intalled the spanish(Venezuela) Dictionary, but I can't or don't know how to use it (Yes, It appears on a list) But I can't make it work
[02:34] <imme> soundray: Do you happen to know of a way to be able to unmount and mount /var without needing to restart, that would also help me very much...
[02:34] <n00b> computer13137: its a pcmcia wired nic, cardbus, but the very old lappy does support card bus if only barely
[02:34] <juano__> NkZ: maybe you need to install the entire spanish support for ubuntu
[02:34] <computer13137> n00b:  Try removing the nic... maybe it's not compatible with Ubuntu... but I don't know why that would error out the installation app.
[02:34] <juano__> NkZ: System --> preferences --> language support
[02:34] <arnold> HymnToLife: Does that deal solely with networking?
[02:34] <hugo> how can I rerun the routine which does autoconfigure my VGA card on install? Not the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg stuff.
[02:35] <ring> ic ant pm
[02:35] <NkZ> Juano__: Thanks, will try that.
[02:35] <TigerCR1200> I bought a Logitech MX600 laser Cordless mouse today. However I cant get it to work at all, not even in the live CD. Any suggestions?
[02:35] <soundray> imme: what about 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda7 /var' ?
[02:35] <emubite> Success -- I'm able to delay checkgmail in Gnome.  Thanks for the help!
[02:35] <ShadowX> ugh, why is linux so bad with 3d?
[02:35] <ShadowX> geez
[02:35] <soundray> emubite: well done
[02:35] <emubite> :)
[02:35] <juano__> NkZ: i had to do this to be able to use spanish keyboard layout
[02:35] <n00b> computer13137: tried, when i got the nic off newegg a review said it was reltek 8139 compataible
[02:35] <roach_> noob question - I just installed 6.10 Alternate (AMD64), and it appeared to go well, but now it won't boot - I have an "(initramfs)" (BusyBox) prompt instead.  I installed onto three RAID1 partitions (100MB /boot, 2GB swap, and 40GB /), and haven't a clue how to proceed...
[02:35] <alex_mayorga> LjL, I've checked and ALSA is selected here, but very often I get scratchy sounds from gaim, how to fix?
[02:35] <HymnToLife> arnold, oh, you want system administration, not network ?
[02:35] <NkZ> I have Spanish Keyboard, just that the Dictionary goes nuts. :-)
[02:36] <computer13137> Ring: Do you do PMs?  I'm PMing you...
[02:36] <ring> computer13137: run lspci and look for your graphics card then paste the first part of the line (should be like 0000:01:01.01)
[02:36] <ring> no i'm not registed
[02:36] <arnold> Sure Both would be nice :)
[02:36] <emubite> Is it possible to leave me default keyring unlocked?  I know this is unsecure, but is there any other way to have my WLAN connect without asking for a password everytime?
[02:36] <soundray> imme: can you backup that partition and reformat it with badblocks checking? It could be a fault on the disk.
[02:36] <juano__> NkZ: mm.. yea.. try to install full spanish support.. wont hurt at all
[02:36] <LjL> alex_mayorga: don't really know, sorry
[02:36] <computer13137> ring:   0000:01:04.0
[02:36] <NkZ> Doing. :-)
[02:36] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok folks.
[02:36] <alex_mayorga> LjL, np, thanks
[02:36] <computer13137> Ring:  It's an nVidia GeForce 5500FX
[02:36] <AOGuy1989> ok
[02:37] <kiamo> hmm
[02:37] <kiamo> ok
[02:37] <AOGuy1989> the res adder thingy didn;t work
[02:37] <imme> soundray: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" So I did: "sudo mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/sda7 /var" what resulted in: "mount: block device /dev/sda7 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[02:37] <kiamo> now I KNOW its problems with my ati drivers
[02:37] <juano__> computer13137: i got the same video card
[02:37] <AOGuy1989> the res is not in the list
[02:37] <Poromenos1> is there a utility I can use to encrypt a file with a DSS key in the command line?
[02:37] <Poromenos1> come to think of it, gpg would do that, wouldn't it?
[02:37] <Tonren>  I'm trying to download a torrent.  It's going at average 12.1 KB/s, but I'm on a consumer cable modem and I know it can go tens of times faster.  I'm looking at my list of peers; ther eare several with 100% availability but I'm not downloading OR uploading to them.  They're not choked, they're not snubbed, and my ports are all forwarded.  Why aren't I downloading?
[02:37] <computer13137> Juano:  Does Ubuntu work for you?  I'm having xserver problems.
[02:37] <blackyyy> Hello
[02:37] <juano__> computer13137: perfectly.. did you install nvidia drivers?
[02:37] <computer13137> Ring:  I'm having the problem on the Live CD too... I find it hard to believe it's my config.
[02:37] <computer13137> Juano:  No....
[02:37] <Poromenos1> Tonren: what's the seed/peer ratio?
[02:37] <Cuddles_in_KY> fresh install of edgy, dell laptop, and a linksys wpc300n network card. so now how can i get it to work/ lspci shows the card, but ndiswrapper doesn't see it.
[02:38] <computer13137> Nobody told me to do that... :|
[02:38] <blackyyy> Hey guys i was @ iraq and just got back a week ago and i read rob levin is dead. Is this true?
[02:38] <juano__> computer13137: try changing in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   under the section Device,  Driver "nv"  for   "nvidia"
[02:38] <ring> computer13137: do you have a built in video card as well?
[02:38] <soundray> imme: okay... The kernel marks the device as readonly. This is serious. Backup your important data a.s.a.p.
[02:38] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Is there a way to tell in the client?  I remember the website saying like 12/12 or something like that.
[02:38] <Poromenos1> computer13137: use envy, i used it and it installed everything perfectly
[02:38] <juano__> computer13137: lol, you should install the drivers first
[02:38] <computer13137> Ring: Yeah, intel nonextreme
[02:38] <ring> computer13137: do what juano says
[02:38] <fluvvell> sometime in nov or dec, an update to Cups-sys resulted in none of my linux network being able to print to my epson printer.  I can print locally, and the logs show remote data coming in and being sent to the printer!  nothing comes out though, any pointers?
[02:38] <juano__> !nvidia | computer13137
[02:38] <ubotu> computer13137: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <kiamo> my fglrx module isnt loading...  please can someone help me? iv followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[02:38] <Poromenos1> Tonren: sure, look at the peers and seeds
[02:38] <blackyyy> Hey guys i was @ iraq and just got back a week ago and i read rob levin is dead. Is this true?
[02:38] <AOGuy1989> so how do i add a res
[02:38] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Does a "seed" just mean someone who has 100% of the file?
[02:39] <emubite> Is there a way to avoid having to enter a password for my WLAN (protected via WPA Personal) evertime I reboot?
[02:39] <Poromenos1> Tonren: yes
[02:39] <arnold> HymnToLife: Sure Both would be nice :)
[02:39] <ardchoille42> !fixres | AOGuy1989
[02:39] <ubotu> AOGuy1989: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:39] <Poromenos1> what is the command line GPG package?
[02:39] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Well then, it appears there are only 3 seeders and 10 peers.
[02:39] <fluvvell> emubite: try hibernating
[02:39] <soundray> blackyyy: yes, it is. Please discuss this elsewhere, though -- #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[02:39] <Poromenos1> Tonren: that might be it, there's too low a ratio
[02:39] <computer13137> Ring: Standby... doing driver.
[02:39] <imme> soundray: Only probs with that partition, right?
[02:39] <Poromenos1> Tonren: which client?
[02:39] <Tonren> Poromenos1: But I'm not downloading from specific peers.
[02:39] <Tonren> Poromenos1: As in, certain peers have 0 upload rate, 0 download rate.
[02:39] <Tonren> Poromenos1: ktorrent
[02:39] <Poromenos1> Tonren: how many people are you connected to?
[02:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone? please?
[02:40] <emubite> fluvvell:  I end up doing that sometimes.  Do you know if it's possible to unlock the default keyring?
[02:40] <Poromenos1> Cuddles_in_KY: what's up?
[02:40] <Tonren> Poromenos1: 13.  3 seeders, 10 peers.  But I'm only downloading from 4 or 5 of them.  Others sit there with 0 upload, 0 download.
[02:40] <soundray> imme: make a backup before you need it, and update your backup at the first sign of trouble. That's good practice in any case.
[02:40] <Poromenos1> Tonren: hmm, that's odd
[02:40] <Poromenos1> Tonren:  i don't know :/
[02:40] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Lame... thanks for tryin' to help anyway
[02:40] <Poromenos1> Tonren: how long has it been since the start of the download?
[02:40] <soundray> imme: now I agree your problem is probably limited to that one partition.
[02:40] <fluvvell> emubite, you only have to enter the keyring password once, after login.  I've kind of got used to it.
[02:40] <kiamo> is anyone familiar with ATI driver problems ;)
[02:40] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Over 3 or 4 hours
[02:41] <soundray> imme: have you got any unpartitioned space on the drive?
[02:41] <Poromenos1> Tonren: odd, i don't know :/ if you start uploading more, the download rate will also climb
[02:41] <Poromenos1> Tonren: other than that, i'm afraid i can't help :(
[02:41] <juano__> computer13137: after installing the nvidia driver do check that change i told ya before
[02:41] <Tonren> Poromenos1: My upload/download limits are both zero.  :\
[02:41] <emubite> I guess it's not that big a deal.  Is there a way to delay/refresh the weather program after WLAN connects?
[02:41] <emubite> I usually have to do it manually.
[02:41] <Cuddles_in_KY> Poromenos1: i've followed the howto, compiled ndiswrapper, installed the driver, but ndiswrapper -l just shows the driver, no hardware. but, lspci shows the hardware
[02:41] <Poromenos1> Tonren: hmm
[02:41] <imme> soundray: Yes, well let's hope...   No, not anymore and that partition is my /var partition, can't I just throw it all away and let Ubuntu figure out what to install again? :P
[02:41] <AOGuy1989> what was the fast way to change res
[02:41] <Poromenos1> Cuddles_in_KY: oh, i have no experience with ndiswrapper, sorry :(
[02:42] <juano__> computer13137: i nice way to see if the drivers are working good, open up a terminal and type glxgears and check to see if they move quickly
[02:42] <soundray> emubite: you can put a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[02:42] <Poromenos1> Tonren: what's your current upload rate?
[02:42] <AOGuy1989> cause it set it to 61 hz and the screen is freaking out
[02:42] <emubite> A script that will automatically log in?
[02:42] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Average up: 15 KB/s.  average down: 11 KB
[02:42] <emubite> Without the need for the default keyring?
[02:42] <imme> soundray: I could move /var to another partition though...
[02:42] <bruenig> AOGuy1989, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:42] <Cuddles_in_KY> Poromenos1: thanks anyway.
[02:42] <Poromenos1> Tonren: and what's the line's upload rate?
[02:42] <Poromenos1> Cuddles_in_KY: np
[02:42] <Tonren> Poromenos1: What does that mean?
[02:42] <fluvvell> emubite, soundray, wouldn't that bypass network manager?
[02:42] <Poromenos1> Tonren: what's your upstream bandwidth?
[02:42] <tickus> Man cant get Grub to install to a sata drive?
[02:43] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:43] <bruenig> man can do anything
[02:43] <soundray> imme: don't trust Ubuntu to restore randomly deleted pieces
[02:43] <arnold> HymnToLife: Any online manuals I can go on reading while waiting on the book to arrive?
[02:43] <arnold> Something lighter perhaps? ;-)
[02:43] <soundray> imme: moving /var contents elsewhere is a good idea
[02:43] <Poromenos1> n00b: are you on a laptop?
[02:43] <ring> does that mean it worked for him?
[02:43] <soundray> fluvvell: how do you mean 'bypass'?
[02:43] <Spasticteapot> Anyone in here know how to make GNUnet work?
[02:43] <Tonren> Poromenos1: Oh.  Um... I don't know.  I think it maxes out at 60KB/s.
[02:44] <Spasticteapot> I've installed GNUnet from the repository, and it won't go.
[02:44] <imme> soundray: Any help on how to do that, I've got enough space on my /usr partition...
[02:44] <Tonren> Poromenos1: It can download much faster, though, being a cable modem.
[02:44] <Spasticteapot> Anyone?
[02:44] <Poromenos1> Tonren: hmm, yes, but if you are uploading at full speed, your download will suffer
[02:44] <soundray> emubite: no, a script that updates stuff as soon as you are connected.
[02:44] <fluvvell> soundray, whenever I've played with settings manually in interfaces, network manager seems to ignore them
[02:44] <Tonren> Poromenos1: well, I'm doing neither.  Hehe
[02:44] <Poromenos1> Tonren: i don't know man, sorry :/
[02:44] <_Casey_> Umm...Hello
[02:44] <Tonren> Poromenos1: It's OK.
[02:44] <Spasticteapot> ##thinkpads
[02:44] <Spasticteapot> Oops...
[02:45] <Poromenos1> how can i add a key in gpg?
[02:45] <bruenig> apt-key
[02:45] <soundray> fluvvell: any time an interface goes up, all scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d/ get executed. Nothing to do with /etc/network/interfaces
[02:45] <emubite> Ah, gotcha.
[02:45] <xirtamio> it
[02:45] <kiamo> does this line make sense to add to the restricted modules common : DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"
[02:45] <_Casey_> dus ne1 have MSN, I need 2 test my new account
[02:45] <Poromenos1> bruenig: no, not in apt, just generally
[02:45] <xerophyte> does anybody running kchmviewer in with gnome when you run why does it show up on all the gnome panel window ??
[02:45] <AOGuy1989> ok how do i do it the hard way
[02:46] <fluvvell> soundray: thanks
[02:46] <AOGuy1989> i know u have to look up some numbers and add some line to a file to add a screen res how do i do that
[02:46] <AOGuy1989> cuase it it running at 61 hz right now and the moniter is freaking out and it wont let me set it to do 60
[02:46] <frogzoo> !fixres | AOGuy1989
[02:46] <ubotu> AOGuy1989: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:47] <yopad> is there a way to buy a computer without an os
[02:47] <_Casey_> dus ne1 here have MSN, I need 2 test my new acct
[02:47] <frogzoo> AOGuy1989: it's horizsync & vertrefresh - google for correct case
[02:47] <ring> yopad: of course
[02:47] <bruenig> yopad, not really
[02:47] <yopad> i was thinking from dell
[02:47] <yopad> or gateway...hp
[02:47] <ring> prolly not
[02:47] <soundray> imme: this is a bit unconventional, and safest if you boot a live CD. But you can probably just 'sudo mkdir /usr/var/ ; cp -a /var/* /usr/var/ ; mv /var/ /var-renamed ; ln -sf /usr/var /var', then delete the entry for /var in /etc/fstab
[02:48] <anorexicpillow> uh there was a story a while ago on how dell returned a guys money when he told them he didnt want windows
[02:48] <xirtamio> hi
[02:48] <bruenig> yopad, if you don't make your computer, the likelihood that you will find an OSless computer is very low
[02:48] <tickus> Ubuntu Edgy installing on Sata drives,  grub problems??
[02:48] <n00b> Poromenos1: yes i'm on a lappy
[02:48] <frogzoo> anorexicpillow: took him 6 months
[02:48] <yopad> i want a laptop...
[02:48] <Poromenos1> n00b: do you have any cards in the pcmcia slots?
[02:48] <bruenig> yopad, just get one with windows on it and format it
[02:48] <frogzoo> tickus: nopers, should work out of the box
[02:48] <yopad> building a laptop would a be a challenge for me
[02:48] <Tonren> Can someone tell me what is iptables, exactly?  Is it a firewall?  Are there ports blocked by default?  How do I "open" a port with iptables?  How do I know if I need to?
[02:48] <AOGuy1989> thatats not working
[02:49] <anorexicpillow> lol i know dell does have one platform that you can order with out an os
[02:49] <bruenig> yopad, technically you are supposed to be able to get a refund for the windows if you don't use it. But it might be more hassle than its worth as they won't be ready and willing to give it.
[02:49] <n00b> Poromenos1: yes, a wired nic, supposedly realtek 8139 compatible
[02:49] <imme> soundray: So I'd better go to LiveCD?
[02:49] <NkZ> Juano__: Thanks dude, that Fixed it. :-)
[02:49] <ring> anorexicpillow: true, but i dont think he's going to be buying a server any time soon
[02:49] <adamonline45> just don't agree to their eula
[02:49] <frogzoo> Tonren: iptables is part of the kernel, it filters ip traffic, & is the engine of all linux firewells
[02:49] <anorexicpillow> heh
[02:49] <Poromenos1> n00b: i think that's causing the problem
[02:50] <Poromenos1> n00b: can you live without it?
[02:50] <juano__> Tonren: iptables is a firewall yes, you can manage ports/ ips / etc. that can connect to your PC with it, you can manage package forwarding also, rules for your local network, etc
[02:50] <juano__> NkZ: great :)
[02:50] <soundray> imme: to be on the safe side, yes, as your currently running system might write to /var after you've made the copy in /usr/var
[02:50] <Tonren> juano__: frogzoo: How do I know what its current status is... which ports are blocked, etc.?  Maybe it's the reason my torrenting is so slow.
[02:50] <tickus> frogzoo,  what you mean nopers should work out of the box.
[02:50] <ring> Tonren: iptables -L
[02:50] <frogzoo> Tonren: sudo iptables -L -v
[02:50] <bruenig> !info firestarter
[02:50] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[02:50] <NkZ> Juano__: Now to bug you even more (I am a pain in the rear) How can I change the Dir in Firefox/GAIM?
[02:50] <wastrel> firestarter
[02:51] <juano__> NkZ: lol nah no prob, which dir?
[02:51] <frogzoo> iptables > firestarter
[02:51] <Tonren> frogzoo: Hmm... I think it's empty.
[02:51] <xirtamio> hi
[02:51] <frogzoo> Tonren: by default, yes
[02:51] <juano__> !iptables | Tonren
[02:51] <ubotu> Tonren: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:51] <frogzoo> Tonren: did you forward your torrent ports from your router to your pc?
[02:51] <Tonren> frogzoo: Dammit... I'm trying to figure out why my torrenting won't work right
[02:51] <NkZ> Juano__ I meant, Changuing the Spellcheck of gaim from English to Spanish
[02:51] <Tonren> frogzoo: Absolutely.
[02:52] <juano__> NkZ: ahh.. mm let me see
[02:52] <Tonren> frogzoo: If I do netstat, I can verify that traffic is flowing on those ports
[02:52] <xirtamio> how can I change my resolution screen with ubunto edy?
[02:52] <xirtamio> edgy
[02:52] <frogzoo> Tonren: try maybe 'Shields up" & see if they can see your torrent ports
[02:52] <Tonren> frogzoo: I don't understand what you mean by that...
[02:52] <frogzoo> ubotu tell xirtamio about fixres
[02:52] <n00b> Poromenos1: did i miss anything, i just crashed
[02:52] <Tonren> Also, what are "upload slots" in ktorrent?
[02:53] <xirtamio> it
[02:53] <frogzoo> Tonren: google for 'shields up' - it's a firewall scanning service
[02:53] <yopad> do you guys know where i can all ...or the most common linux commands at
[02:53] <jrattner> Does this IRC server support SSL
[02:53] <frogzoo> !docs | yopad
[02:53] <ubotu> yopad: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[02:53] <adamonline45> anorexicpillow: You here still?
[02:53] <eternalswd> Tonren, upload slots are how many clients you're willing to seed to
[02:53] <anorexicpillow> yah
[02:53] <adamonline45> anorexicpillow: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/09/1629239
[02:53] <Tonren> eternalswd: Hmm... it's only four.  Maybe that's what's going on.
[02:53] <adamonline45> anorexicpillow: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/05/1946215
[02:53] <Poromenos1> n00b: i said, can you live without the card?
[02:53] <imme> soundray: Care to know how it went/ a.k.a. shall I return here to tell you a bit, or not so interested?
[02:54] <Tonren> eternalswd: Is it a bad idea to have no upload slot limit on a commercial router?
[02:54] <juano__> NkZ: ah.. for firefox go to
[02:54] <adamonline45> anorexicpillow: took me long enough, i know...  dunno who you were talkin' to about that, but it's in your hands now ;) I'm out!
[02:54] <anorexicpillow> lol
[02:54] <anorexicpillow> ok
[02:54] <n00b> Poromenos1: i have to be able to access teh intarweb
[02:54] <eternalswd> Tonren, doesn't depend on router, depends on connection speed.
[02:54] <jeff_rub2> I need help installing ubuntu to harddrive.
[02:54] <juano__> NkZ: edit --> preferences --> advanced --> general
[02:54] <anorexicpillow> i heard ibm is doing some linux adaption aswell
[02:54] <Tonren> eternalswd: Sorry, I meant commercial cable modem, not router
[02:54] <xirtamio> ty
[02:54] <xirtamio> :)
[02:54] <soundray> imme: I'm interested, but I'm logging off soon. Perhaps I'll see you here another day.
[02:54] <juano__> NkZ: then languages at the bottom
[02:54] <NkZ> Thanks. :-)
[02:55] <juano__> NkZ: click on Check my spelling also
[02:55] <imme> soundray: ghehe, yes.
[02:55] <NkZ> Thanks! :-)
[02:55] <imme> soundray: I just remembered I have no LiveCD's on me... :(
[02:55] <juano__> NkZ: for gaim lets see
[02:55] <jeff_rub2> I don't understand all the "root, usr, swap" and all that. HOW many partitions DO i have to have???
[02:55] <Poromenos1> n00b: doesn't the laptop have another nic?
[02:55] <imme> jeff_rub2: Do you call every folder on a windows machine a partition as well?
[02:56] <frogzoo> jeff_rub2: theoretically one
[02:56] <n00b> Poromenos1: no, it's that old, it has only rj11
[02:56] <jeff_rub2> no. I have an 80gig drive that is in 3 partitions.
[02:56] <ring> jeff_rub2: you can get by with a swap and root partition (/) you are fucked though if you decide to format that root partition
[02:56] <soundray> imme: use recovery mode then, that's a bit safer than a fully running system at least.
[02:56] <frogzoo> jeff_rub2: but, really depends what you're doing - for an easy setup, put everything on / + /home + swap
[02:56] <ring> best to split up boot, home and / along with swap
[02:56] <Poromenos1> n00b: i don't know then :/ the card is causing a problem, you can probably ignore it but i don't know if it'll work
[02:56] <juano__> NkZ: not sure on gaim, dont use it but try google
[02:56] <n00b> Poromenos1: old, old...64mb ram, xubuntu, the ppl on #xubuntu sent me here
[02:57] <Tonren> frogzoo: eternalswd: I'm using Port 15000 for bittorrenting.  Is that a bad idea?  Apparently some other service ("hypack")  is associated with it.
[02:57] <NkZ> Roger That, Will Try. :-)
[02:57] <Tonren> eternalswd: Shields Up got it, btw
[02:57] <eternalswd> Tonren, shouldn't need to limit it unless you need upload bandwidth somewhere else.  Unlimited though can limit the speed of websurfing.
[02:57] <Poromenos1> n00b: well, it will run the OS, but it probably won't recognize the card :/
[02:57] <imme> soundray: okay.   thanks for your help.   The only problem is that when I restart the fs gets mounted nice and easy again... Eliminating the necessity to back up data... :)
[02:57] <frogzoo> jeff_rub2: also, if you plan to run database/webserver - consider putting /var as separate also
[02:57] <jeff_rub2> I want installation on 3rd partition. Can I put everything on there?
[02:57] <Tonren> eternalswd: hmm
[02:57] <n00b> Poromenos1: it will not work, it wont even recognize the slot, the lappy can do cardbus
[02:57] <NkZ> Many thanks for your help!
[02:57] <ring> Tonren: port 15000 is fine
[02:57] <juano__> NkZ: no prob :-) anytime
[02:58] <Poromenos1> n00b: yeah, i don't know what to do then :(
[02:58] <soundray> imme: that would be a good time to do the copying, then.
[02:58] <frogzoo> Tonren: how do you know your torrent isn't working?
[02:58] <Tonren> God dammit!  Why is it that I can't download from the seeders?  This is totally bizarre.  Could they just be out of bandwidth on their end?  But if so, why would I connect to them at all?
[02:58] <yopad> what do i have to do to get my five button mouse to work...im getting annoyed that my back button doesnt work when surfing the web
[02:58] <Tonren> frogzoo: Because I've downloaded other torrents and other files at much, MUCH faster speeds.
[02:58] <eternalswd> Tonren, I usually use 30000+ port numbers to avoid conflicts
[02:59] <kiamo> GAH im running around in circles...
[02:59] <frogzoo> Tonren: the seeders are a bit snobby - you're not g'teed to leech from them
[02:59] <imme> soundray: Okay thanks again, I'm off.
[02:59] <bruenig> just use mouse gestures
[02:59] <soundray> imme: I had a failing disk and did a backup, and some of the files didn't come across, or came across with zero length. Very annoying.
[02:59] <Tonren> eternalswd: I might change it over
[02:59] <eternalswd> Tonren, do you have encryption enabled on the packets?
[02:59] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[02:59] <Tonren> eternalswd: I dunno.  I don't think so
[02:59] <soundray> imme: good luck
[02:59] <Vaske_Car> how can I record sound from online radio station?
[02:59] <erisco> where can I find how to install the new XGL/Beryl?
[02:59] <Tonren> eternalswd: No, it's not enabled
[02:59] <jeff_rub2> thanx for the help guys :)
[02:59] <yopad> how about wiki guys
[02:59] <juano__> erisco: join #beryl
[02:59] <yopad> you guys can go there
[02:59] <jeff_rub2> gonna try this again
[02:59] <kiamo> ok so now im pretty certain my ati drivers are installed correctly, fglrxinfo gives me the correct data. but my video files still arent playing!
[03:00] <frogzoo> Tonren: increasing the number of simultaneous connections helps - try 2 find a torrent optimizing guide
[03:00] <Tonren> eternalswd: Maybe the seeders are on filtered/proxied/packet-shaped connections, and the connection packet gets through but the data packets aren't?
[03:00] <bruenig> !quicktime | kiamo
[03:00] <eternalswd> Tonren, depending on the swarm, that could be it.  Always enable encryption, but use the fallback.
[03:00] <ubotu> kiamo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:00] <Tonren> eternalswd: In other words, enable encryption, but also allow unencrypted connections.
[03:00] <Tonren> frogzoo: I tried, couldn't.  :\  None that made sense, anyway
[03:00] <eternalswd> Tonren, exactly
[03:00] <Tonren> frogzoo: I'll google again
[03:00] <frogzoo> eternalswd: always use encryptioN? why? that's totally unnecessary
[03:00] <Tonren> eternalswd: OK, I just enabled encryption
[03:01] <ring> Tonren: do you have a router in front of you?
[03:01] <Tonren> frogzoo: Is there a particular reason why I wouldn't be able to download from the seeders?  Why would they appear on my list if I can't DL from them...?
[03:01] <ring> like a linksys type router
[03:01] <Tonren> ring: Yeah, but the port is forwarded (I just verified w/ Shields Up)
[03:01] <livingtm> Is here a PDF viewer that is fairly light weight, but you can PAN with? evince just isnt cutting it for me
[03:01] <ring> ah
[03:01] <frogzoo> Tonren: the seeds share their b/w across the whole swam
[03:01] <blish> hello?
[03:01] <Tonren> frogzoo: They must have awful bandwidth
[03:02] <blish> I mean hello
[03:02] <calamari> hi
[03:02] <calamari> my grandma is on dialup (has to be).. and when she disconnects, gaim doesn't realize she has disconnected from the internet.  how can I get gaim to realize she is offline.. or when she gets online, can gaim automatically detect that?
[03:02] <frogzoo> Tonren: especially if you're slow, don't expect them to share
[03:02] <blish> what the topic?
[03:02] <mzanfardino> does anyone know if there are any development tools for developing flash under linux?
[03:02] <eternalswd> Tonren, it is possible to have seeders that cut their bandwidth while seeding even to the point of being bytes per second, but that shouldn't apply accross the board
[03:02] <Tonren> calamari: I've been trying to figure that out for years.
[03:02] <frogzoo> Tonren: what's you b/w?
[03:02] <un0p> livingtm,  whats PAN mean?
[03:02] <Tox> how to make working ubuntu dvd as it goes on my hdd
[03:02] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[03:02] <jfry> can someone pastebin me a standard menu.lst I don't have one
[03:02] <Tonren> frogzoo: Um.. I'm actually not sure.  It's a commercial cable modem connection.  I've gotten upwards of 500 KB/s down and at least 60 KB/s up
[03:02] <Tox> with all programs  etc
[03:03] <Tonren> n00b: Are you getting that when you bootup from teh live CD?
[03:03] <emubite> Is it possible to access my OS X user folder (e.g., Music, Movies, Pictures, etc.) from Ubuntu?  I can mount the drive, but I don't have permission to access the directories in my OS X home folder.
[03:03] <livingtm> un0p, grab the document and move it... by dragging rather than moving scroll bars
[03:03] <frogzoo> Tonren: cable very often blocks torrent, at least on the known ports
[03:03] <kiamo> x restarts when playing back ANY video files of any kind...
[03:03] <Tonren> frogzoo: I'm using 15000.
[03:03] <n00b> Tonren: lappys so old i have to use xubuntu_alt, and yes i see it on boot.
[03:03] <un0p> livingtm,  I'm quite sure !gpdf and !kpdf support that
[03:04] <Tonren> n00b: There's a way to edit the boot options, I think you hit F-something.  Hit F1 for help to find out exactly what.
[03:04] <frogzoo> Tonren: well if shields up found it, it's all good
[03:04] <n00b> Tonren: during boot?
[03:04] <Tonren> n00b: Add "noapic nolapic" to your boot options, then try booting
[03:04] <Tonren> n00b: Yeah, at the live CD menu
[03:04] <kiamo> :(
[03:04] <kiamo> yup
[03:04] <kiamo> any file, avi, ogg, mkv, dvds....
[03:04] <Tonren> frogzoo: Yep.  Hmmm....
[03:05] <n00b> Tonren: it's not a live cd, i'm on alt, full install cause it only has 64MB ram
[03:05] <yopad> does ubuntu support dual cpus
[03:05] <eternalswd> jfry, that would depend upon your kernel, your screen, etc, try running update-grub from the terminal
[03:05] <Tonren> n00b: Oh.. ok, do you have GRUB/LILO?
[03:05] <yopad> i have a ibm workstation with two xeon processors
[03:05] <yopad> curious if it will use both of them
[03:05] <frogzoo> Tonren: http://www.baddass.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/torrent.htm
[03:05] <mwalsh> is 6.10 meant to not work correctly?
[03:06] <soundray> yopad: yes, it will
[03:06] <Tonren> mwalsh: No, it's stable now.
[03:06] <jfry> eternalswd: thanks a ton... that didit
[03:06] <frogzoo> mwalsh: for what?
[03:06] <kiamo> lol mwalsh i think so
[03:06] <mwalsh> well a lot of things are not going right for me
[03:06] <frogzoo> !doesn't work
[03:06] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[03:06] <emubite> Is it possible to access my OS X user folder (e.g., Music, Movies, Pictures, etc.) from Ubuntu? I can mount the drive, but I don't have permission to access the directories in my OS X home folder.
[03:06] <mwalsh> ok
[03:06] <mwalsh> list of problems
[03:06] <BULLE> mwalsh: well 6.10 is imho a bit rough at times
[03:06] <wastrel> i have ubunto edge
[03:06] <mwalsh> right but
[03:07] <mwalsh> Im getting odd erros
[03:07] <mwalsh> like
[03:07] <mwalsh> every time i boot up, it says HAL failed to initialize
[03:07] <soundray> !enter | mwalsh
[03:07] <ubotu> mwalsh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:07] <sleepy723> how do you make the kiba-dock panel transparent
[03:07] <mwalsh> sorry
[03:07] <BULLE> mwalsh: okies, so, check logs, to find out WHY this HAL service failes to initialize
[03:07] <tickus> Ubuntu Edgy.  I have it installed on my mail servers and all my computers except my main machine with sata becasue Grub is hell with Edgy and Sata.
[03:07] <n00b> Tonren: grub/lilo...I honestly dont know how tro tell, whichever was default
[03:07] <mwalsh> ok how do i check the logs.
[03:08] <BULLE> mwalsh: im pretty sure the ubuntu homepage has nice help documents for helping you understanding basic sysadmin stuff, like how logging is handled, and where stuff goes
[03:08] <frogzoo> tickus: grub doesn't like sata - wtf?
[03:08] <BULLE> frogzoo: does for me
[03:08] <mwalsh> i see...
[03:08] <Tonren> n00b: OK, when you boot, if it says "Hit ESC to access menu", do that.  Then at the menu select the normal boot-up option (on top) and hit "e" on it.  I think then you need to select the "boot" line, hit e again.  Then type "noapic nolapic" (you might need to add a space in front).  Then you hit enter, and "b" to boot
[03:08] <Tonren> n00b: It might fix your problem
[03:09] <mwalsh> well im getting a boatload of errors so will the homepage help me with those
[03:09] <mnoir> mwalsh: a couple of pointers - the dmesg command will show you early messages, prior to the system being up enough to write to the normal logs
[03:09] <soundray> mwalsh: try 'gedit /var/log/syslog'
[03:09] <frogzoo> tickus: consider a bios upgrade
[03:09] <Tox> how to make back the filter window on adept manager
[03:09] <livingtm> un0p, Thanks, ill give gpdf a try
[03:09] <soundray> mnoir: that's not entirely accurate
[03:09] <mnoir> mwalsh: second, the logs are in /var/log.  an ls -latr there will show you the most recently written ones
[03:09] <kiamo> I need help solving my video playback problem, whenever i play back a video file it restarts X.  Pretty sure my ATI drivers are installed correctly but im at a loss of what else to try... ideas?
[03:09] <tickus> frogzoo.   yep just installed the latest bios and still cant get grub to install to my sata drive.
[03:09] <BULLE> frogzoo: its sadly quite common, that manufacturer dont care to fix such sissues
[03:10] <coliny> Sorry. i was just figuring out how to join back into the Ubuntu IRC list again. Sorry to bother y'all.
[03:10] <mnoir> soundray: how not entirely?
[03:10] <mwalsh> ok mnoir you lost me
[03:10] <ring> I'm having some issues getting X to run.  When i startx or xinit the screen blanks.  I have an ATI x800xl, I've tried the ATI, vesa and fglrx drivers.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[03:10] <mwalsh> im on the logs page, and its a bunch of internet jargon.
[03:10] <Tonren> Nope... my download is still averaging 10 KB/s.  Man... this is gonna take DAYS.
[03:10] <mnoir> mwalsh: the log directory is /var/www
[03:10] <livingtm> un0p, Yep, gpdf does allow me to pan around quite nicely thanks!
[03:10] <frogzoo> ubotu tell ring about fixres
[03:10] <mnoir> you have a terminal window right now?
[03:11] <coliny> what would you people do if your computer housing lack a sufficient number of CD drive bays?
[03:11] <frogzoo> !ubotu tell ring about fixres
[03:11] <madman__> i am having a hard time connecting with checkpoint vpn in vmware, i allowed ports in my router but it seem ports are blocked in ubuntu
[03:11] <mwalsh> hmm terminal says no such directory
[03:11] <BULLE> mnoir: ehm ?
[03:11] <frogzoo> !fixres | ring
[03:11] <ubotu> ring: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:11] <BULLE> mnoir: log dir is NOT /var/ww
[03:11] <soundray> mnoir: dmesg is a ring buffer that shows kernel messages. When the system is freshly booted, you will see early messages in it as you say, but those will be in /var/log/syslog, too.
[03:11] <BULLE> more like /var/log
[03:11] <eternalswd> mwalsh are you using gnome?
[03:11] <ring> i know how to start x
[03:11] <mwalsh> yessir
[03:11] <mnoir> mwalsh: sorry - i hace web on the mind.
[03:11] <ring> i can't ctrl+alt+backspace or ctrl+alt+plus
[03:11] <ring> sorry for the snippy response just fed up with this :(
[03:12] <mnoir> mwalsh: the log dir is /var/log
[03:12] <frogzoo> ring: ctrl alt f1 work?
[03:12] <ring> no
[03:12] <eternalswd> mwalsh press alt+f2 to get run command then type gnome-terminal as the command
[03:12] <ring> frogzoo: none of it works -- Xorg.0.log shows no obvious errors either
[03:12] <coliny> I mean, these large disk drives can also be used to hold front mounted ports (see www.frontx.com as an example,) wireless bluetooth dongle receivers (useful on HTPC's,) temperature readers, etc.
[03:12] <mwalsh> im in the terminal
[03:12] <mnoir> if you are in that dir, the command 'ls -latr' will show the files in reverse order of last file to be written
[03:12] <kiamo> coliny, id scrap the case and spread the computer out by screwing the bits into the wall, obviosly youd need some extra long cables but it would look pretty nifty eh?
[03:13] <ring> i can upload my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log if you'd like
[03:13] <mwalsh> is there any way i can private chat with on eof you expert guys
[03:13] <BULLE> mwalsh: keep it on channel
[03:13] <mwalsh> ok
[03:13] <mwalsh> hm
[03:13] <frogzoo> ring: you did remove the stylus/wacom settings from xorg.conf ?
[03:13] <mwalsh> so i opened the log
[03:13] <BULLE> mwalsh: that way all people can see, and fill in relevant bits, also, others may benefit from it
[03:13] <alex_mayorga> how do I deal with a 500 error in Malone?
[03:13] <mnoir> mwalsh: come to #ubuntu-classroom
[03:13] <mwalsh> ok
[03:13] <opapo> I can get WPA to work at work, but I can't get WEP to work at home.
[03:13] <coliny> CD drive bays get used up very quickly - what to do about it - in many instances the traditional vertical housing is insufficient because of spacing.
[03:13] <opapo> What am I doing wrong?
[03:13] <ring> yes that didnt seem to help either
[03:13] <ring> i will try again though
[03:14] <frogzoo> ring: x800 definitely works, so don't panic
[03:14] <ring> frogzoo: xorg.conf is here: http://daemon.stanford.edu/~ring/xorg.old and the Xorg.0.log is here: http://daemon.stanford.edu/~ring/xorg.old
[03:14] <coliny> sometimes equipment just can't be housed externally, like front mounted ports. (unless it's a connectivity hub.)
[03:14] <ring> i know it works hehe had it working fine in suse :(
[03:14] <BULLE> opapo: no idea, but why not just stick to WPA at home aswell, WEP is in many cases pretty easy to break trough
[03:14] <coliny> Okay, what are you all talking about?
[03:14] <ring> oops
[03:14] <ring> xorg is here
[03:14] <ring> xorg.0.log
[03:14] <ring> frogzoo: xorg.conf is here: http://daemon.stanford.edu/~ring/xorg.old and the Xorg.0.log is here: http://daemon.stanford.edu/~ring/Xorg.0.log
[03:14] <coliny> hello?
[03:15] <LjL> !ubuntu | coliny
[03:15] <ubotu> coliny: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:15] <opapo> BULLE: I only have the WEP key for the access point at home
[03:15] <n00b> Tonren: did what you suggested, still "cardbus not blah", was that change permanent?
[03:15] <opapo> It's a friend's AP
[03:15] <coliny> i use ubuntu.
[03:15] <coliny> okay.
[03:16] <frogzoo> ring: get rid of #1 - all the wacom stuff, & 2# all the modes except bpp24
[03:16] <coliny> aoeuidhtns
[03:16] <LjL> coliny: well, that's what we talk about in here. it's the Ubuntu support channel, people ask questions about the problems they have
[03:16] <LjL> and they don't test out their dvorak keyboards
[03:16] <frogzoo> they don't?
[03:16] <Cold_FiRe> anyone here who know C programming willing to help exploit and exploit in a psp firmware?
[03:16] <LjL> !offtopic | Cold_FiRe
[03:16] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:17] <Cold_FiRe> well this is the only place i know where people who know C programming...
[03:17] <D7k> pspubuntu, it'll come
[03:17] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[03:17] <frogzoo> Cold_FiRe: ##c
[03:17] <Cold_FiRe> it already has
[03:17] <Cold_FiRe> TTHANX
[03:17] <rich443> I get this error when starting kiba-dock http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2592/
[03:17] <LjL> frogzoo: -. ---, they have fun with morse instead
[03:18] <coliny> i'm sorry. i wanted to know a little more about hardware problems. actually, i don't have any ubuntu problems except for firewire connectivity and haven't checked it again since i got back from europe.
[03:18] <n00b> Tonren?
[03:18] <coliny> sorry to get off topic.
[03:18] <LjL> Cold_FiRe: you can always try -offtopic as suggested by the bot
[03:18] <Cold_FiRe> sorry
[03:18] <coliny> why not test a dvorak keyboard? i have thought of getting a labeling "adapter."
[03:19] <coliny> does going off topic means connecting to another irc channel?
[03:19] <opapo> Does anyone know where I can get support for wireless?
[03:19] <HymnToLife> !wireless | opapo
[03:19] <ubotu> opapo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <coliny> i haven't yet checked my documentation on the firewire stuff.
[03:20] <coliny> ubotu: i don't have wireless just yet.
[03:20] <LjL> coliny: yes, but you can easily be on many channels at once. typing /join #ubuntu-offtopic will get you there
[03:20] <opapo> I have tried wireless docs and I seem to be doing everything correct with no errors, but need help fine tuning my configuration
[03:20] <LjL> coliny, the reason for the policies is that there's a lot of people and traffic here (928 people at the moment), so we keep this channel strictly for support questions
[03:20] <coliny> i didn't know i can be on so many channels at once. thanks. au revoir
[03:21] <coliny> LjL: i'm sorry about the policies.
[03:21] <opapo> HymnToLife: What did you mean by : !wireless | opapo ?
[03:21] <wolfwalker> Okay, I need a list of internet service providers who are known to support Linux. I don't care if it's dial-up.
[03:21] <coliny> i simply didn't know this.
[03:21] <snide> hey guys, just a question .. what made you want to try out the ubuntu os?
[03:21] <LjL> coliny: of course, i'm just explaining it to you - no offence meant :)
[03:21] <wolfwalker> Dialup, cable, DSL, whichever, I just need SOMEone who can give me Linux on the internet
[03:21] <opapo> !wireless
[03:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <LjL> snide, #ubuntu-offtopic please ;)
[03:22] <snide> oo thanks ljk lol
[03:22] <bruenig> sbc supports it
[03:22] <livingtm> how do i change the default application to use with pdf files?
[03:22] <wolfwalker> sbc?
[03:22] <madman__> what is the name of the 3d desktop application switcher
[03:22] <jrattner> Is there a "Tor" howto anywhere
[03:22] <un0p> wolfwalker,  ISPs shouldnt care what OS your computer(s) use -- except for the purposes of supporting the supporting software (device drivers, dial-up software, etc)
[03:22] <bruenig> livingtm, right click on a pdf then go to properties and change the open with
[03:22] <LjL> !3ddesktop | madman__
[03:22] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[03:22] <arnold> !webcam
[03:22] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:22] <livingtm> bruenig, that only seems to do it the one time, then goes back to evince the next time
[03:23] <HymnToLife> opapo, using !something | somenick makes ubotu add the nick to the command so it highlights the person who is supposed to get it
[03:23] <bruenig> livingtm, it shouldn't, make sure you go to properties when you change it
[03:23] <dwid> is there a way to connect with the other computer on my network that is windows
[03:23] <ring> frogzoo: i removed all the modes but 24 adn all the wacom stuff -- still no luck
[03:23] <wolfwalker> |un0p:| Well mine can't read my modem through the ethernet connection
[03:23] <HymnToLife> !ubotu | opapo
[03:23] <ubotu> opapo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:23] <mevets> is there a cmd i can run from the terminal to reload the audio? it doesnt always load on startup
[03:23] <livingtm> bruenig, OH the properties page.. thanks!
[03:23] <frogzoo> ring: not fair
[03:23] <ring> i know:(
[03:23] <un0p> wolfwalker, is that a cable "modem"?
[03:24] <frogzoo> ring: hmm....BusID"PCI:5:0:0"
[03:24] <bruenig> mevets, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart used to work when flash wold make my sound go out
[03:24] <bruenig> would*
[03:24] <ring> frogzoo: lspci lists that as the proper busid for the card
[03:24] <wolfwalker> |un0p:| yes, it's a DSL modem through the local phone lines
[03:24] <frogzoo> ring: that's odd - 1:0:0 is normal
[03:24] <ring> i dunno? maybe its a pci-e thing?
[03:25] <opapo> HymnToLife: is there a person I can chat with?
[03:25] <wolfwalker> |un0p:| I ran pppoeconf but it said the modem's access concentrator wouldn't respond
[03:25] <opapo> I have tried several tutorials without success
[03:25] <frogzoo> ring: nope, it's worth a shot
[03:25] <ring> frogzoo: i've had it working in suse and that is the same busid used
[03:25] <kiamo> I need help solving my video playback problem, whenever i play back a video file it restarts X.  Pretty sure my ATI drivers are installed correctly but im at a loss of what else to try... ideas?
[03:26] <HymnToLife> opapo, ask your questions here, the more people will see them, the more likely you'll be to get an answer
[03:26] <frogzoo> ring: also, what's with the usefbdev ?
[03:26] <[GnB] jabberwocky> what's my best shot for returning all the graphics settings and video drivers to the livecd-install default, other than reinstalling?
[03:26] <ring> just threw it in figuring it would help
[03:26] <un0p> wolfwalker,  errm yea, we've seen that before and i don't know how to workaround it .. but to answer your question about ISPs .. invest in a cheap router so you dont have to deal with the modem
[03:26] <morpheus74> I have an old Pentium 150mhz with 32 MB or ram and a 2 gig HD, is it possible to install the Ubuntu alternative or server on this?  I'm alright with running in command line only.
[03:26] <ring> i've tried it with and without
[03:26] <HymnToLife> morpheus74, server, certainly
[03:27] <[GnB] jabberwocky> morpheus74: also look into damn small linux
[03:27] <HymnToLife> but as a GUI, GNOME will be far too heavy, try Fluxbox
[03:27] <ring> i have an idea
[03:27] <ring> going to try aticonfig see if that helps any
[03:27] <wolfwalker> Can I use any modem or do I have to use the one my ISP provided?
[03:27] <corevette> do you think if i enabled ATI graphics on vmware for ubuntu it would work?
[03:27] <morpheus74> [GnB] jabberwocky, I tried DSL, but I'm running into issue after issue with the install.
[03:27] <adamonline45> morpheus74: How crazy, i was just gonna ask about my old p2! =O
[03:28] <opapo> HymnToLife: Thanks
[03:28] <HymnToLife> corevette, no
[03:28] <HymnToLife> VMware's virtual machines' hardware is virtual as well
[03:28] <morpheus74> adamonline45, What are you going to install on it?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> so it needs specific drivers
[03:28] <slyfox> Does anyone know hoe to modify Firefox GUI font size? The default size is small. I want the menu and everything in firefox to be bigger. Please help.
[03:28] <corevette> is there a way to increase the resoltuion on vmware hymntolife
[03:28] <ubuntu> Hey someone here
[03:28] <juano__> would anyone know why in windows my pc will vanish from my network places and from ubuntu it works fine, they wont vanish?
[03:28] <ubuntu> fast i want reply
[03:28] <corevette> hymntolife...my maximum is 800x600
[03:28] <HymnToLife> corevette, install vmware tools
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> !ask | ubuntu
[03:28] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <ubuntu> i want to Install UBuntu on Pen drive 4 gb
[03:29] <morpheus74> I'm a newer Linux user, is a server install much different from the desktop install?
[03:29] <adamonline45> morpheus74: I don't know yet, but I'm loving Ubuntu, and was hoping to stick to it... Only I don't think I can install dapper, cuz it's only got 64mb ram...
[03:29] <HymnToLife> !pendrive | ubuntu
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pendrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <corevette> hymntolife is it synaptic?
[03:29] <ubuntu> but i read that on pendrive it will be have problem
[03:29] <bruenig> there are some howtos, it is a bit complex to get it on a pendrive
[03:29] <HymnToLife> corevette, no
[03:29] <frogzoo> HymnToLife: does vmware yet support VT ?
[03:29] <ubuntu> becouse from much read write it can be damagaed is it correct
[03:29] <HymnToLife> check the !wiki, there is a page about installing it
[03:29] <wolfwalker> !modem
[03:29] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:30] <wolfwalker> Dial-up? Gag!
[03:30] <morpheus74> adamonline45, I tried installing Damn Small Linux, but continued to run into problems on the install.  Maybe it's just my older hardware is not compatible.
[03:30] <bruenig> ubuntu, do you mean to install it and use it as your regular OS, or to make it a portable live cd kind of thing because only the latter is possible from what I have read
[03:30] <wolfwalker> !DSL
[03:30] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Don't know why
[03:30] <ubuntu> burenig no i wan to install it like hard disk
[03:30] <corevette> hymntolife..where is the dl?
[03:31] <ubuntu> bruenig i want to install it and use it like OS.
[03:31] <La_PaRCa> Hey guys. I am trying to set up skype to use a proxy I installed on a machine in the states so I can use the unlimited calling plan. However, I am having trouble setting it as the skype proxy. I already tried exporting http_proxy and changing the opera settings. Any ideas?
[03:31] <opapo> ubotu: can you troubleshoot my wireless problem with me?
[03:31] <HymnToLife> corevette, just read the wiki page
[03:31] <corevette> where hymntolife
[03:31] <bruenig> ubuntu, good luck, seems unlikely
[03:31] <snide> hm .. actually i have a plm with dvdrip app .. it wont run without rar v80 but according to synaptic .. i do have but the higher version one. dvd::rip still wont even run even with the latest versiono f rar one, just rar v80 one
[03:31] <PwcrLinux> Hello all, anyone about telnet launcher to log into my eggdrop (my linux box telnet to shell provider)?
[03:31] <snide> any idea
[03:31] <adamonline45> morpheus74: I was going to use it as a file server and dhcp router, damn small linux was another thought I had...  But I don't know about that; at least with an ubuntu-based distro I think I'd feel more comfortable; though I know it's not a big deal to try other distros =)
[03:31] <ubuntu> bruenig why man tell fast
[03:31] <HymnToLife> !wiki | corevette
[03:31] <ubotu> corevette: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:32] <ubuntu> bruenig is it can damage the pen drive
[03:32] <morpheus74> adamonline45, I agree.  Have you played with Ubuntu server before?
[03:32] <adamonline45> morpheus74: I'd also love to have a gui available for when I need it, so I dunno about using ubuntu server; since I don't believe it comes with one
[03:32] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, why do you need a GUI then ?
[03:32] <bruenig> ubuntu, there are issues with mounting and just a lot of things to consider, maybe it is possible. Conceptually seems a bit far off
[03:32] <snide> !dvdrip
[03:32] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[03:33] <ubuntu> bruenig but is it can damage it
[03:33] <juano__> would anyone know why in windows my pc will vanish from my network places and from ubuntu it works fine, they wont vanish?
[03:33] <ubuntu> bruenig liike from much read/write
[03:33] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Just so simplify things when I need to scoot mass amounts of files around, mostly...  I don't really think I NEED one though; as I'm getting more adept at the CLI, and prefer it ultimately...
[03:33] <bruenig> ubuntu, I doubt it would damage anything
[03:33] <ubuntu> bruenig damage everything like what man, tel fast
[03:34] <bruenig> is ubuntu trolling or something
[03:34] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, then don't install one, you can move files over SSH from another box if you really need to do it graphically
[03:34] <ubuntu> bruenig becouse i install it in the moment
[03:34] <madman__> can someone help i am stuck with ldirect rendering: No
[03:34] <adamonline45> morpheus74: No, I haven't used ubuntu server before...  I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult...
[03:34] <PwcrLinux> USB Pendrive? I have 2 of pendrive.. rarely use it..
[03:34] <BULLE> bruenig: or he havent eaten his pills
[03:34] <ubuntu> bruenig no i want to install it and when i need it to use it.
[03:34] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: That's a good suggestion....
[03:34] <adamonline45> !ssh
[03:34] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:35] <adamonline45> Wow, I'm instantly intrigued in putty! =O hehheh...
[03:35] <PwcrLinux> SHH launcher work prefectly
[03:35] <wastrel> putty is my favorite windows program
[03:35] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Is it possible to do a whole install via ssh, to the point that I wouldn't need a monitor on my server?
[03:35] <PwcrLinux> Telnet does not work :(
[03:35] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, of course not
[03:36] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: or I presume I'd need to get it set up first...
[03:36] <HymnToLife> exactly :)
[03:36] <ring> that didnt work either:(
[03:36] <ubuntu> PwcrLinuxwhat you mean do you have UBuntu on USB
[03:36] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu: yep
[03:36] <ubuntu> PwcrLinux do you lie man
[03:37] <ubuntu> PwcrLinux becouse i read that it can damage the pen drive from much read/write,is it COrrect.
[03:37] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu: nah, my pendrive saves back-up webpage and etc..
[03:37] <arnold> !easycam
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <BULLE> ubuntu: yes, you can kill your pendrive if you set it upp in a bad way
[03:37] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu: yes, try not too much too frequently
[03:37] <ubuntu> BULLE what man tell fast
[03:37] <BULLE> ubuntu: ?
[03:38] <ubuntu> BULELE what mean upp
[03:38] <bruenig> ubuntu, what other language do you speak?
[03:38] <BULLE> ubuntu: stop taking drugs, sober up, then come back
[03:38] <ubuntu> BULLE what mena upp
[03:38] <ubuntu> bruenig spanish
[03:38] <bruenig> !es | ubuntu
[03:38] <ubotu> ubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:39] <ubuntu> ok only eone question man BULLE what mean upp
[03:39] <PwcrLinux> I alway rarely use USB pendrive when I need it
[03:39] <kiamo> yo, anyone got any ideas why X restarts every time i play a video file?
[03:39] <BULLE> kiamo: sounds like broken driver to me, but its just a guess
[03:39] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Is SSH simple to use?  Is it jsut a client/server thing, or more full duplex?
[03:40] <hugo> I want to setup a kiosk terminal. a locked down version of firefox should be started and restarted on application quit. all panels, alt+f2, alt+tab should be locked down. how can I achieve that?
[03:40] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: and, do I have a choice of SSH's/ssh clients, or is it just what it is?
[03:40] <madman__> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[03:40] <BULLE> hugo: i think there is somethign called Kiosk
[03:40] <BULLE> hugo: kde thingy, that does that for you
[03:40] <ubuntu> PwcrLkinux look in private message
[03:40] <hugo> BULLE: yes
[03:41] <kiamo> BULLE, following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2 - i get no success the ubuntu repositories way, and the install from ATI.com leads me to believe they are working fine
[03:41] <frogzoo> adamonline45: ssh is just like telnet, but also has tricks like passing X
[03:41] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu: go ahead :)
[03:41] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, it is a server/client thing, and there are several clients available though I only know one server
[03:41] <HymnToLife> !info openssh-server
[03:41] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[03:41] <BULLE> hugo: so just use it
[03:41] <arnold> can someone help with some webcam drivers?
[03:41] <adamonline45> frogzoo: I'll pretend I know what telnet is =) Thank you tho ;)
[03:41] <hugo> BULLE: at least that's what the kde people used to claim. while I haven't seen that working without tonns of hacking yet.
[03:42] <benyx> hi! i install unbuntu edgy..  and i have a keyboard with multimedia control...   when i turn the sound down or high i see a progress bar on the screen but dont effect the volume control... same thing for my mute button..
[03:42] <BULLE> hugo: dunno, its the best i have seen
[03:42] <hugo> BULLE should work in gnome too
[03:42] <xai> Is there a way to get a non-graphical installation from the live cd?
[03:42] <opapo> What do I do if I can connect to a WPA AP at work, but am unable to connect to a WEP AP at home?
[03:43] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu: are you registered in nickserv? you need to be register it before you can use prvmsg
[03:43] <Fireware> Windows is better
[03:43] <Fireware> :D
[03:43] <BULLE> hugo: no idea, i dont use gnome, but sure, there might very well be some sort of restricted gui/shell functionality for gnome
[03:43] <[GnB] jabberwocky> okay, one last hope: how do i set X to 16bpp?
[03:43] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Thank you, I think I'll look into that... after I find a third monitor in some other room... hehheh
[03:44] <arnold> !forums
[03:44] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[03:44] <BULLE> hugo: i just used this thingy http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
[03:45] <kiamo> is there another way to check if my ati drivers are working correctly other than fglrxinfo?
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> adamonline45: Do both
[03:45] <ardchoille42> !sabayon
[03:45] <ubotu> sabayon: system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 1868 kB
[03:45] <ardchoille42> !devilspie
[03:45] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[03:45] <frogzoo> kiamo: what's wrong with fglrxinfo ?
[03:45] <adamonline45> tonyyarusso: My brain multitasks worse than Windows 3.1 =/
[03:45] <ardchoille42> hugo, You might look into sabayon for lockdown stuff
[03:45] <kiamo> well it tells me that my drivers are fine
[03:45] <kiamo> but i cant work out what else would be wrong with them...
[03:45] <AOGuy1989> ok
[03:45] <AOGuy1989> how do i manually add a res
[03:46] <BULLE> kiamo: and what does the x logs say ?
[03:46] <frogzoo> kiamo: glxinfo |grep direct
[03:46] <BULLE> kiamo: they surely log something, before x dies
[03:46] <kiamo> hang on
[03:46] <kiamo> ill get the log
[03:46] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> i dun wanna use htat i want ot do it the other way
[03:47] <kiamo> frogzoo, direct redering: yes
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> that way mess the crap outta my screen last tiem
[03:47] <PwcrLinux> Hiya bhaal
[03:47] <frogzoo> kiamo: fgl_glxgears
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> how do i do it the other way
[03:47] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, Did that not work for you?
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> no it didnt
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> it made the screen bad...
[03:47] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, Did you restart X afterwards?
[03:47] <AOGuy1989> yes
[03:48] <AOGuy1989> how do i edit the one file and add a line
[03:48] <kiamo> BULLE, i cant remember where the logs are...
[03:48] <AOGuy1989> thats the way i did it b4
[03:48] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, Ok, then I am thinking you entered a wrong value somewhere. That command has never failed lots of people.
[03:48] <AOGuy1989> i need to do it that way
[03:48] <Fireware> !poop
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <kiamo> frogzoo, its spinning away fine
[03:48] <Fireware> :D
[03:48] <AOGuy1989> !FIXRES
[03:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:48] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, You mean sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:48] <frogzoo> kiamo: so what's the problem?
[03:49] <AOGuy1989> yes
[03:49] <AOGuy1989> where do i add the line
[03:49] <kiamo> frogzoo, X restarts whenever i play video files
[03:49] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, Ok, but you'll still need to restart X after that.
[03:49] <AOGuy1989> i know
[03:49] <kiamo> BULLE, Xorg.0.log right?
[03:50] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, I don't know.. that's why I use the reconfigure command, it does everything for you.
[03:50] <frogzoo> kiamo: gnome or beryl? & which vid card?
[03:50] <kiamo> gnome and ati 1600+
[03:50] <AOGuy1989> =(
[03:50] <AOGuy1989> grr
[03:50] <adamonline45> !ubuntu server
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <kiamo> BULLE, the only errors in the log are wacom devices it cant find :(
[03:51] <PwcrLinux> cya later all
[03:52] <NotWired>  is there any way to force all of ubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies to reinstall?
[03:53] <wastrel> hm
[03:53] <[GnB] jabberwocky> is there any way to revert display settings?
[03:53] <frogzoo> kiamo: you using the ati driver or fglrx?
[03:54] <kiamo> fglrx
[03:54] <xxyyzz> Hi, I'm trying to configure my computer (which is running Ubuntu Edgy) to have a static IP, but I can't find an FAQ website on that. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
[03:55] <arnold> xxyyzz: System -> administration -> Networking
[03:55] <frogzoo> xxyyzz: /etc/network/interfaces & man interfaces
[03:55] <arnold> frogzoo: My way is faster :)
[03:55] <frogzoo> arnold: :p
[03:56] <xxyyzz> Sorry I'm really new
[03:56] <xxyyzz> What do I do with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:56] <[GnB] jabberwocky> okay, does anyone know if it's possible to offload my home folder and/or any changes made to program's preferences to another partition/disk?
[03:56] <mystic_touch> Hello :)
[03:56] <flaco> hi all... anyone has a .deb file of gtk+ 2.6 or newest ?
[03:56] <xxyyzz> is there a readme in there?
[03:56] <kiamo> frogzoo, any ideas?
[03:56] <arnold> xxyyzz: try my way first :)
[03:56] <xxyyzz> lol, okay, I just hope I don't mess things up
[03:56] <AOGuy1989> so does anyone know excatly where to put the line in the file for screen res
[03:56] <xxyyzz> I don't have to use any special numbers or anything, do I, arnold?
[03:56] <xxyyzz> I can just use like 1.2.3.4 or something, right?
[03:57] <arnold> xxyyzz: Do you know how to set a static IP?
[03:57] <xxyyzz> Not quite.
[03:57] <arnold> xxyyzz: no the numbers are quite important
[03:57] <xxyyzz> I just know I have to do it to open ports on my modem/router.
[03:57] <xxyyzz> arnold, where would I find more information about which numbers to use?
[03:57] <arnold> xxyyzz: really?
[03:57] <xxyyzz> Yeah :-/
[03:57] <frogzoo> arnold: you can only have a static ip your ISP gives you
[03:57] <xxyyzz> I'm on the DLink site now
[03:57] <AOGuy1989> ...
[03:57] <arnold> Are you connected to the modem now?
[03:57] <xxyyzz> No but I can be
[03:57] <[GnB] jabberwocky> frogzoo: i think he's talking about static lan address
[03:58] <arnold> How are you on the internet?
[03:58] <xxyyzz> GnBjabberwocky, yeah I am
[03:58] <arnold> !tab
[03:58] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:58] <frogzoo> arnold: you can only have a static ip your ISP gives you - for an internet addressable host
[03:58] <xxyyzz> arnold, I'm on a different computer which is on wireless
[03:58] <arnold> Argh
[03:58] <arnold> My ride is here
[03:58] <desheffer> Is there a way re-align the icons on top GNOME panel? (for example, originally, when I deleted one in the middle, the other icons would all shift to fill its place)
[03:58] <arnold> Listen to frogzoo :)
[03:58] <xxyyzz> Okay
[03:58] <xxyyzz> So what should I do with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:58] <[GnB] jabberwocky> is there way to save system prefrences between installs?
[03:59] <xxyyzz> Sorry I know these probably seem like really stupid questions
[03:59] <arnold> Does it make sense to compile my own Webcam drivers when the only person who I found on the net to try it didn't the camera working and broke the USB host controller?
[03:59] <xai> is there an "ubuntu text" tpe of installation for the live cd?
[03:59] <frogzoo> xxyyzz: example: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/506-setting-static-ip.html
[03:59] <corevette> where is the dl for vmware tools for linux
[04:00] <xxyyzz> Thank you so much, frogzoo :))
[04:00] <AOGuy1989> does anyone know where i add Modeline "1920x1200" 204.95  1920 2024 2272 2744  1200 1200 1203 1244 in xorg.conf
[04:01] <Vandalay> yes
[04:01] <frogzoo> arnold: lol, probly not
[04:01] <AOGuy1989> where?
[04:01] <Vandalay> in the "monitor" section
[04:01] <AOGuy1989> ok
[04:02] <AOGuy1989> at the end?
[04:02] <opapo> What do I do if I can connect to a WPA AP at work, but am unable to connect to a WEP AP at home?
[04:02] <AOGuy1989> after ...
[04:02] <Vandalay> in a line under monitor
[04:02] <AOGuy1989> ok now what
[04:02] <AOGuy1989> saved it
[04:02] <Vandalay> log out of x
[04:02] <AOGuy1989> how
[04:03] <kiamo> please can someone help me make my computer play video files ;) it always just restarts X
[04:03] <Vandalay> just log out & back
[04:03] <AOGuy1989> ok brb
[04:03] <AOGuy1989> *crosses fingers*
[04:03] <Vandalay> hehe
[04:04] <chillisoup> is this channel suitable to start discussing Feisty Fawn issues? or is there a development channel i can be directed to?
[04:05] <rich543> how do you open a .skz file from superkaramba
[04:05] <rich543> [22:04]  <rich543> when I download .skz it says it might be corrupted if saved
[04:05] <emubite> Is it possible to symlink to a folder on an HFS mount?  I want to link to my Music, Movies, and Pictures folder on my OS X parition from my Ubuntu parition.
[04:05] <emubite> If so, can you specify the syntax?
[04:06] <chillisoup> emubite - is your osx partition mounted?
[04:06] <NotWired>  is there any way to force all of ubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies to reinstall?
[04:06] <AOGuy1989> ok that didn't work
[04:07] <emubite> chillisoup:  Yes, it's mounted to my desktop via fstab.
[04:07] <AOGuy1989> i still can;t change the res to 1920x1200
[04:07] <Vandalay> but you have x
[04:07] <Vandalay> is the modeline correct
[04:07] <AOGuy1989> yes
[04:07] <Vandalay> is the hsync /vrefresh correct
[04:07] <AOGuy1989> yes
[04:07] <chillisoup> emubite - so the symlink should be straight foward i would have thought, what error message are you getting?
[04:08] <emubite> Lemme check...
[04:08] <humbolto> how do I start the VGA autodetect routine by hand which is executed on the installer cd usually. I did the installation on a system which had a different VGA card.
[04:08] <corevette> why do i lose my connection on vmware so often??
[04:08] <Vandalay> do you have a mode 1900x 1200
[04:08] <AOGuy1989> no
[04:08] <Vandalay> in the dysplay section
[04:08] <AOGuy1989> system>screen res no option to change to 1920x1200
[04:09] <emubite> chillisoup: Do you know what the syntax would be?  Since there's nothing in my Ubuntu home directory to link to, should i create a generic file first?
[04:09] <ardchoille42> AOGuy1989, Does your monitor support 1920x1200 ?
[04:09] <Vandalay> in section display
[04:09] <AOGuy1989> yes
[04:09] <AOGuy1989> it does
[04:09] <AOGuy1989> it does that res in windows
[04:09] <ta_> I have installed ubuntu server and cannot get x forward to different client working
[04:10] <emubite> In other words, how do I link (or make an alias) to my OS X's Music folder in my Ubuntu home folder?
[04:10] <Vandalay> mb you have to rename
[04:10] <ta_> what am I missing to install??
[04:10] <vandit2k7> Hi can anybody help me with installing ATI driver on feisty......I assume its the same process as for edgy right?
[04:10] <Vandalay> the modeline to 1900x1200_75
[04:10] <kiamo> please can someone help me make my computer play video files ;) it always just restarts X whether its an avi or ogm or dvd, or mkv
[04:10] <Vandalay> or 1900x1200_100
[04:10] <humbolto> is the 915resolution app still necessary on edgy?
[04:10] <AOGuy1989> where is the fiel again
[04:10] <AOGuy1989> file
[04:11] <finlaylabs> anybody good with rdesktop? I have 2 dapper systems plugged into a linksys router (which is connected to the net via an adsl modem with DDNS). How would i get to rdesktop to one from the other? Eventually I want to do this remotely, but first things first!
[04:11] <ransid> heyy, i need some aid in making fun of myself
[04:12] <kiamo> lol
[04:12] <ransid> so, im trying to do my C homework on my laptop
[04:12] <emubite> Figured it out.  Thanks!
[04:12] <ransid> (ububtu 6.10)
[04:12] <ransid> aaand nothin is compiling
[04:12] <ransid> so yeah, it doesnt have stdio.h
[04:12] <ransid> ...
[04:12] <ransid> anywhere
[04:12] <kiamo> apt-get the compiler again?
[04:13] <ransid> :S
[04:13] <xxyyzz> How do I find out my current LAN IP address?
[04:13] <chillisoup> emubite: sudo ln -s /OSX partition mount /home directory
[04:13] <someone> internal address, or internal
[04:13] <someone> external
[04:44] (zYe/#ubuntu) and when i try to change the resolution in ubuntu it just gives me two options to keep it the same as always or change it to the older resolution which is still the same
[04:44] (wastrel/#ubuntu) finlaylabs:  if you have access to the server logs for the web server you could just have a cron job to query http://www.your-website.com/my-home-ip   --- my-home-ip need not exist even.  just look for that url in the server logs
[04:44] (`Lazarus/#ubuntu) Can anyone recommend a free .gz utility for windows xp, that is not command-line based.  Thanx much.
[04:44] (zYe/#ubuntu) the game options are already set to fullscreen
[04:44] <zYe> but only at 1024x768
[04:44] <kitche> `Lazarus: winrar 7zip
[04:44] <frogzoo> kiamo: from #
[04:44] <B_166-ER-X> wastrel, although that i'm on windows, i can acess my Ext3 FS from here, so if you want to see the output of some files, i could paste it
[04:44] <zYe> while i run desktop in 1600x1200
[04:44] <`Lazarus> thanx again
[04:45] <kiamo> frogzoo, sorry?
[04:45] <brussel> Has anybody worked with file systems larger than 2TBs on ubuntu 6.10 with amd64 bit cpus?
[04:45] <finlaylabs> wastrel: I *sort of* understand :)
[04:45] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  it sounds like a network prob is slowing down your boot.
[04:45] <frogzoo> kiamo: from Section "InputDevice" to EndSection, repeat for erase & cursor
[04:45] <zYe> the only way i can change the resolution or get it to start working is change x file
[04:45] <lskd-255> zye, have you tried the dpkg- reconfigure xserver-xorg lately?
[04:45] <svfusion> how do I make a ftp users (proftpd) that their home folder is the dir of the website
[04:45] <kiamo> ok
[04:45] <kiamo> done
[04:45] <zYe> is that the X11/xorg file?
[04:45] <B_166-ER-X> wastrel, any ideas how to..'change that' ?
[04:45] <lskd-255> yeah
[04:46] <CITguy> anybody familiar with ndiswrapper?
[04:46] <kiamo> frogzoo, can upping the refresh rate potentially damage the monitor?
[04:46] <Vandalay> most monitors you can overdrive a bit
[04:46] <frogzoo> kiamo: yes, but not a recent one
[04:46] <finlaylabs> wastrel: still looking up the sript lang available - net is very slow from china right now (my present loc)
[04:46] <zYe> the ect/x11/xorg.config
[04:46] <finlaylabs> wastrel: do you use vncviewer much? I can log on to myslef via vncviewer using the WAN-asigned IP address using 'vncviewer 129.168.1.101:strider:0' but vncviewer 61.51.121.199:strider:0 doesnt work.
[04:46] <kiamo> frogzoo, it was one of the first tfts really old ;)
[04:46] <zYe> yea thats the only way i can make it work
[04:46] <Vandalay> wit a few mhz
[04:46] <lskd-255> zye if you run that command, you can select all the resolutions it offers if you want
[04:46] <mzuverink> svfusion, user_mod for the apache, and then jail the users to their home dir, see http://easylinux.info  goto the appropriate ubuntu section
[04:47] <frogzoo> kiamo: google maybe for specs
[04:47] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  i suspect your linux isn't talking nice to the router's DNS service.  you should configure your dns servers manually to your ISP's dns addresses.
[04:47] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  i don't use vnc
[04:47] <B_166-ER-X> wastrel, where do i go in ubuntu to do this ? 'Network tools' ?
[04:48] <ransid> Okay, the synaptic program finally loaded, and it still cant find a certain file from the ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <ransid> im browsing that directory on the web server, and dont see it either
[04:48] <svfusion> i just mirgrated a full webserver from Windows Server 2003 to Ubuntu
[04:48] <svfusion> lol
[04:48] <ransid> if i manually download the .deb file, is there a way to install it from there?
[04:48] <axa-axa> Hi. I've downloaded some gnome splash images from www.gnome-look.org Can someon please tell me how to install them localy?
[04:49] <cablesm102> ransid, yes. Just double click it, it should open an installer.
[04:49] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  you'd test first by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[04:49] <lskd-255> zye,  are you still here?
[04:49] <kiamo> frogzoo, yup its maxed haha
[04:49] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  then reconfigure your dhcp client to assign the correct dns servers
[04:50] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  192.168.* are not internet IP's they're only for LANs
[04:50] <unperson> Ok, so I'm trying to figure out if the menu.lst for grub on my broken system is right.  There is a line kopt_2_6=root=/dev/md1.  Should that be pointing to the partition with / ? Because /dev/md1 is not where / is.
[04:50] <ransid> ok weird question, any idea why my internet connection got jacked down to like 23k/s al of a sudden?
[04:50] <ransid> lol
[04:50] <ransid> 10 seconds ago i was at 233k/s
[04:50] <Vandalay> we cant know evrything
[04:50] <calm> hi all! i'd like to improve my font rendering in edgy, as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235526 . the post says that there are two sets of patches. should i install one or the other? or both?
[04:50] <cablesm102> ransid, the ubuntu package servers can be a bit weird
[04:50] <zYe> yes i am
[04:51] <lskd-255> zye, hit ctrl+ F1 and then log in and do  ...  sudo dpkg- reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <frogzoo> unperson: you're using raid?
[04:51] <ransid> jah
[04:51] <unperson> frogzoo, Yes, for /, not for /boot.
[04:51] <finlaylabs> wastrel: ok thats why it would work internally. but i thought tghen that vncviewer 61.51.121.199:strider:0 should work (using my true IP address... or I guess more truly thats the IP of the router...
[04:51] <unperson> frogzoo, I configured it through the install from the alternate CD.
[04:51] <Erb_> how do i return to x windows from tty1?
[04:51] <markedwards> I'm having trouble booting an Edgy LiveCD on a Powerbook G4.  I'm ending up at the BusyBox prompt, saying "can't access tty".  Can anyone suggest anything?
[04:52] <kiamo> frogzoo, this isnt going to sort my video playback probs is it?
[04:52] <zYe> ctrl f1 isnt doing anything for me
[04:52] <CITguy> I'm trying to install a Wireless PCMCIA card on edgy using ndiswrapper.  I've got the driver installed, but the card won't work. Any suggestions?
[04:52] <ransid> ok
[04:52] <kitche> axa-axa: this will help you with installing splash for gnome http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[04:52] <ransid> cool
[04:52] <zYe> nothing is happening
[04:52] <delaney> Question.. 4.4 installer says i need to satisfy dependencies for xcomposite and xdamage.  which packages do i need to satisfy dependencies for xcomposite and xdamage
[04:52] <ransid> cablesm102: ok, down to two missing files, can i PM you to see if we can figure out where to find em?
[04:52] <B_166-ER-X> wastrel, what do i change in the resolv.conf ? theres only ..2 ip's
[04:52] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  that would work if 1. you were outside the LAN connecting in.  and 2. the router was forwarding VNC connections to your computer's LAN address.
[04:52] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy:  As I recall NDISwrapper doesn't support PCMCIA, only CardBus.
[04:52] <zYe> iskd, can i just run that command in the terminal?
[04:53] <michael_> I accidentally deleted the /etc/X11/imwheel/ directory. What can I do? X won't start anymore (yes, stupid mistake)
[04:53] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  you change the ip's to the IP addresses of your ISP nameserver.  but you have to do it after you boot linux and test then if that makes your internet work.
[04:53] <CITguy> well, it worked somewhat. the card's lights are blinking and such, but I cannot configure the card to work
[04:53] <lskd-255> yes
[04:53] <finlaylabs> wastrel: so there is a need to allow vnc connections on the router admin page somehow?
[04:53] <frogzoo> unperson: that should point to / fairly sure
[04:53] <axa-axa> Thanks
[04:54] <zYe> iskd, it says that the command isnt found..
[04:54] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy: Are you sure it's PCMCIA, its probably CardBus ... which is good news :)
[04:54] <zukunft[lec] > michael_, maybe envy script can help you..
[04:54] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  yes you'd have to configure port forwarding on the router to point to your computer's LAN address.
[04:54] <izmeh> Hey
[04:54] <Erb_> What is the command to get back to X Windows from the command line? (I'm stuck in tty1 on another PC)
[04:54] <CITguy> it's an expansion bay in my laptop, not sure which it is
[04:54] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  or put your computer in the DMZ but then you have no firewall (set up firewall on ubuntu mebby :)
[04:54] <kitche> Erb_ ctrl+alt+f7
[04:54] <IntuitiveNipple> Erb_: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[04:54] <|thunder> how do I force install a deb with dpgk ?
[04:54] <Vandalay> startx
[04:55] <michael_> zukunft[lec] , I'm sorry, envy script?
[04:55] <Erb_> THANKS!!
[04:55] <Vandalay> hehe
[04:55] <CITguy> lspci is showing, "CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller"
[04:55] <finlaylabs> wastrel: networking aint for the faint-hearted!
[04:55] <izmeh> Are there any better irc clients than gaim?
[04:55] <unperson> frogzoo, Ok.  I'm going to try a few things.  BIAF.
[04:55] <ferrouswheel> izmeh, try kopete
[04:55] <michael_> zukunft[lec] , Looks like it is for Nvidia?
[04:56] <zukunft[lec] > michael_,  here... http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html it works with ATI also
[04:56] <finlaylabs> wastrel: will have a look at the router setup, see if its blindingly obvious.
[04:56] <CITguy> and my card is "Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)"
[04:56] <poorenglish> |thunder: dpkg -i --force .deb?
[04:56] <Judicata> izmeh: a lot of people use XChat.
[04:56] <Judicata> izmeh: I don't like any of the GUI irc clients, so I use EPIC or irssi.
[04:56] <ransid> anyone have any idea why two of these package files cannot be found? heh
[04:56] <izmeh> thanks i'll check that out
[04:56] <zukunft[lec] > CITguy, my pci wireless has the same
[04:57] <zukunft[lec] > and works with ndiswrapper
[04:57] <torpedo|dog> I can't install Gaphor, it says that python-diacanvas "won't be installed". Any tips before I file a bug?
[04:57] <lskd-255> zye, it takes admin privs  use sudo
[04:57] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  it takes a while to figure out.  your router is using NAT to provide your LAN with internet access.  this provides a basic kind of firewall but means your LAN computers aren't visible from the internet.  in order to connect to a LAN computer your router needs to be told to forward connections to it.
[04:57] <svfusion> how do I add a proftpd users with home dir /var/www
[04:57] <CITguy> zukunft[lec] , does yours work? if so, how'd you get it to work?
[04:58] <B_166-ER-X> wastrel, just to be sure. I have to find my Isp's DNS and change the ones in resolv.conf with them , right thus far ?
[04:58] <ferrouswheel> I have problem with smbiod using 99% CPU and all samba connections to a remote machine stalling. this doesn't resolve itself, and other machines can still access the remote machine. I try restarting smbd, but the connections are still down. Only way to fix is to reboot :(
[04:58] <ferrouswheel> Does anybody have any ideas?
[04:58] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy: is it listed when you do "iwconfig" ?
[04:58] <wastrel> B_166-ER-X:  that's just my guess as to what's wrong.  it may not work.  but yes, that's what i think you should do.
[04:58] <CITguy> yes
[04:58] <zukunft[lec] > after installing ndiswrapper, download your card driver then use ndiswrapper -i "windows_driver"
[04:59] <finlaylabs> wastrel: oh I do have options to enable/disable dynamic or static routing... is that it? which one?
[04:59] <lskd-255> zye,  if that doesn't do it you might check and see if xserver-xorg is even installed
[04:59] <IntuitiveNipple> thats good then... Is your WiFi network encrypted with WEP or WPA ?
[04:59] <zukunft[lec] > then do ndiswrapper -l to check if it is installed
[04:59] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[04:59] <finlaylabs> wastrel: and NAT
[04:59] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  i'm not sure.  see anything like "port forwarding" or "virtual server"
[04:59] <kiamo> frogzoo, those changes screwed x lol
[05:00] <CITguy> "netmw125    driver installed, hardware present"
[05:00] <frogzoo> kiamo: just removing wacom stuff? shouldn't do
[05:00] <finlaylabs> wastrel: 'local DNS server'?
[05:00] <matthew1429> hi
[05:00] <zukunft[lec] > CITguy, now i m not sure.. but i think u should do a sudo ndiswrapper -m
[05:01] <CITguy> "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[05:01] <zYe> iskd, im sorry i press alt ctrl f1 and i went into something i didnt know how to get out of
[05:01] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  not likely
[05:01] <mase> what kind of video plugin can i get for firefox
[05:01] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy: Does iwconfig list it as wlanX, and specify the ESSID fo your network?
[05:01] <svfusion> how do I add a proftpd users with home dir /var/www
[05:01] <zukunft[lec] > CITguy, it is supposed to be working.
[05:01] <mcquaid> what pkg am I missing for gparted to handle ntfs?
[05:02] <matthew1429> can you guys see me?
[05:02] <finlaylabs> wastrel: oh I have a page on 'port range forwarding'. Has fields for: Application	Start	End	Protocol	IP Address	Enabled
[05:02] <CITguy> "ESSID: off/any"
[05:02] <HymnToLife> !helpme | matthew1429
[05:02] <ubotu> matthew1429: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <kiamo> frogzoo, ooooooooh i didnt remove the server layout part, could that have stopped it from finding screens tho?
[05:02] <matthew1429> I cut and pasted a full tracert in another channel and can't chat in that channel anymore
[05:02] <svfusion> i've ased my question like 100 times
[05:02] <svfusion> lol
[05:02] <izmeh> I dont understand this
[05:02] <matthew1429> just wanted to make sure
[05:02] <frogzoo> kiamo: yep
[05:02] <matthew1429> hehe
[05:02] <m12> how do you clear the list from "Run Application"? (alt+f2)
[05:02] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  that's it
[05:03] <zukunft[lec] > CITguy, did u set the interfaces file ?
[05:03] <CITguy> no, how do i do that?
[05:03] <lskd-255> zye, it's a way to shut gdm down and get out of the graphics  while working on a major grapics item
[05:03] <zYe> ok
[05:03] <finlaylabs> wastrel: so, can I bother u for what mioght go in those fields? I have no idea sorry.
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy: Read this... http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:03] <zYe> i am in a terminal running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <lskd-255> zye, i should have told you about the first command,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:04] <IntuitiveNipple> CITguy: See section 4.8.7
[05:04] <svfusion> how do I add a proftpd users with home dir /var/www
[05:04] <izmeh> If linux is favored by so many as better than windows, why is so frustrating to get started even with a "new to linux" distro such as ubuntu?
[05:04] <zYe> and i told it my card name
[05:04] <zukunft[lec] > CITguy, i think that link is more helpfull for u...
[05:04] <zYe> and card type
[05:04] <Bruttus> hi! anyone can tell me how to get drivers for pixelview playtv 400 usb board?
[05:04] <CITguy> alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks
[05:04] <lskd-255> suppose to :)
[05:04] <IntuitiveNipple> izmeh: Because most of the stuff in Linux relies on volunteers
[05:04] <beterraba> hello, my Flash Player play video, but not sound. ps.: i can hears sounds in my pc. how do i set up the sound of Flash Player?
[05:05] <matthew1429> it's not intended to be "user friendly" anyway... that's part of the fun
[05:05] <kiamo> frogzoo, ok yea its working fine now
[05:05] <IntuitiveNipple> |flash | beterraba
[05:05] <izmeh> i meant as for an end user to setup
[05:05] <matthew1429> I'm a noob (3days) too
[05:05] <zukunft[lec] > if u want user friendly.. try a mac ! ;)
[05:05] <kiamo> frogzoo, so this just cleans up my xorg.conf yea? always good to keep files clean :)
[05:05] <lskd-255> zye, so do the crtl + F1 and the  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  and them the sudo dpkg <blah blah> command
[05:05] <beterraba> IntuitiveNipple, in terminal?
[05:05] <matthew1429> I've been told not to expect it to be the same experience
[05:05] <izmeh> i have mac setting beside me :\
[05:05] <zYe> thanks iskd :)
[05:05] <Erb_> When I connect my 19" monitor to my notebook, it cuts off the side and the bottom of the screen. I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but nothing is added to System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[05:06] <Vandalay> you just have to familiarize urself with a few important config filees
[05:06] <matthew1429> I'm personally intrigued by learning about this
[05:06] <zYe> i think i got it
[05:06] <lskd-255> and then hit strl+alt+backspace
[05:06] <IntuitiveNipple> izmeh: Same reason applies
[05:06] <wastrel> finlaylabs:  is there a help page in your router interface?  :]     application: not sure   start/end  probably the TCP port ranges  (what port or ports does VNC use?  I dunno) protocol: probably TCP or UDP, probably TCP  IP addy: your computer's LAN IP.  enabled : yes
[05:06] <beterraba> IntuitiveNipple, in terminal?
[05:06] <Vandalay> then you know all linux'
[05:06] <lskd-255>  ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:06] <Nobody2500> Greetings all - new to Ubuntu. Any standard practices on where to place the master "Users" folder for common file access (on the server version)
[05:06] <IntuitiveNipple> terminal?
[05:06] <Peppery> wastrel: The standard port is 6800 or 5900
[05:06] <Peppery> I forget
[05:06] <Peppery> *5800
[05:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: user folders are created by default in the /home directory
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Nobody2500: Not really.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> IntuitiveNipple: I think he means an all-can-access, like "Shared Docs" on Win
[05:07] <Xtreem> can anyone recommend a nice CD emulator tool, like daemon tools for Ubunutu? I cant find anything in repositories
[05:07] <svfusion> how do I add users to proftpd
[05:07] <snide> when in the /etc working dir, type sudo rm *.conf .. can it work? or will the os itself already safeguarded against that kind of cmd line?
[05:07] <nc631> Xtreem: use loop
[05:07] <IntuitiveNipple> tonyyarusso: Yes, but its the place to put the 'system-wide' folders too - helps for back-up etc
[05:07] <nc631> Xtreem: loopfs
[05:07] <Vandalay> you can mount an iso image
[05:07] <nc631> Xtreem: allows you to mount iso
[05:08] <bulmer> what is the name of that program that allows one to see the multiple Desktop in a "cube" like, at different angles? rotate it at any directions in x,y or z axis?
[05:08] <Vandalay> compiz
[05:08] <Nobody2500> I think the home location looks good
[05:08] <IntuitiveNipple> beryl?
[05:08] <Nobody2500> thanks
[05:08] <Vandalay> yes
[05:08] <bulmer> those are not in dapper?
[05:08] <IdleOne> !beryl
[05:08] <Xtreem> nc631, thanks =)
[05:08] <kiamo> !beryl
[05:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:08] <Vandalay> i have it working
[05:09] <Vandalay> its very nice
[05:09] <Judicata> bulmer: Beryl. There is also a program called 3ddesktop, but its not pretty.
[05:09] <kiamo> i like the sound of beryl :D
[05:09] <Erb_> When I connect my 19" monitor to my notebook, it cuts off the side and the bottom of the screen. I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but nothing is added to System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[05:09] <bulmer> i have ubutu ignore..let me un-ignore
[05:09] <nc631> is compiz any good?
[05:09] <B_166-ER-X> is there a file that i could acess (in ubuntu, root or whatever, from Windows) that contains the version of the Kernel installed ?
[05:09] <IamEthos> okay, so when I ssh into a machine running an ubuntu (breezy) liveCD
[05:09] <Vandalay> the propblem is mb the config
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: type uname -a
[05:09] <IamEthos> what is the username and password?
[05:09] <Judicata> Erb_: did you try restarting X after you plug it in? Also, are you using beryl or compiz?
[05:10] <Nobody2500> Has anyone managed to get the GUI working with the dreaded Intel 845G integrated video card?
[05:10] <bulmer> !beryl | bulmer
[05:10] <ubotu> bulmer: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:10] <nc631> IamEthos: I'm pretty sure you need to do sudo passwd first and set it...
[05:10] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple i'm not in linux now, hence my question, althought i have REad acess to my ext3 partition
[05:10] <Judicata> IamEthos: try logging in with guest.
[05:10] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: Whats the problem with the 845?
[05:10] <Erb_> Judicata: I have restarted X, I;m not sure if I'm using  beryl or compiz
[05:10] <Judicata> Erb_: then you aren't using it :)
[05:11] <Vandalay> i have aiglx working, only with nvidia driver 930 & up
[05:11] <Judicata> Erb_: what's your graphics card?
[05:11] <izmeh> whats the command to run the package handler?
[05:11] <Judicata> Erb_: and driver
[05:11] <zukunft[lec] > does anybody know something about mesh API in sugar?
[05:11] <Nobody2500> Fails going into the GUI - have to use a Vesa driver - which sucks (low res and linited options)
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: sorry, didn't see you mention Windows. Can you read the Linux file-systems from Windows?
[05:11] <ransid> gah
[05:11] <ransid> thanks for all of your help guys, finally got it
[05:11] <ransid> cheers, and goodnight
[05:11] <HymnToLife> Nobody2500, which video card ?
[05:12] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: If you can read the boot file-system you should see the version as part of the filenames of the kernel images files
[05:12] <Nobody2500> Lots of stuff written in the Ubunto forms about it, not much advice beyond using Vesa
[05:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: IS it related to the i810/i815 ?
[05:12] <Nobody2500> Integrated card on the MBU - Intel 845G
[05:12] <lskd-255> not that anyone would answer me or anything,  but when someone does a "32 bit" chroot in ubuntu is it likely to expect they would have double daemon entries set to listen when the view their netstat replies?
[05:12] <Nobody2500> Yes
[05:12] <Erb_> Judicata: Intel Corporation Mobile Intergrated Graphics Controller
[05:12] <mcquaid> what pkgs are required to have ntfs support in gparted?
[05:12] <Nobody2500> Yes to the i810 quetsion
[05:13] <IamEthos> hmm
[05:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: what error do you see (I've jsut solved some complex i815 problems)
[05:13] <IamEthos> according to the users and groups panel in gnome, there is an ubuntu user
[05:13] <IamEthos> and it has a password set
[05:13] <IamEthos> but I don't know what it is
[05:13] <Tonren> I'm trying to download a torrent and it's just sitting there, stalled.  isohunt.com reports it as having 355 seeders, 610 leechers.  My ports are forwarded.  Encryption is on, but unencrypted connections are allowed.  Absolutely nothing is happening - no peers, no downloads, no uploads.  Nothing.  Can anyone give me a hint?!
[05:13] <Tonren> This is the torrent: http://tinyurl.com/3b2f98
[05:13] <Judicata> Erb_: alright, I'm not sure I can help you with that one (and I've got to go soon anyway)
[05:13] <Nobody2500> Can't start the Xserver, do you want to see detaild output - if I recall correctly
[05:13] <Judicata> Tonren: try a torrent channel.
[05:13] <Vandalay> is the port open in the firewall
[05:14] <Erb_> Judicata: Can you point me in the right direction?
[05:14] <Tonren> Judicata: You would be my hero if you could tell me what some torrent channels are.
[05:14] <Judicata> Erb_: Someone else in here could help you, probably.
[05:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody... knowing the error wold help. Can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[05:14] <Judicata> Tonren: hmmm...hero eh?
[05:14] <Nobody2500> IntuitiveNipple: A copy of your xxx.conf file might help me
[05:14] <Tonren> Vandalay: I did "iptables -L -v" and there were no listings.
[05:14] <mcquaid> Tonren, it sounds like a private torrent
[05:14] <Tonren> mcquaid: It's from btjunkie.com, and it doesn't say anything about passwords.
[05:15] <Tonren> Judicata: Hero, dude.
[05:15] <IamEthos> does anyone else know of the default password for the livecd user?
[05:15] <MeGaQuArK> Ok, so I just installed the latest kernel update via apt-get, and now I can't get into X. Says something about not being able to find the nvidia driver.
[05:15] <Judicata> Tonren: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/IRC
[05:15] <Vandalay> system -asministration-firewall
[05:15] <mcquaid> what client are you using?
[05:15] <Tonren> Judicata: Down in history, dude.
[05:15] <Vandalay> or open the right port with firestarter
[05:15] <mcquaid> in utorrent it will clearly say if you are denied and get a pass from bla blah
[05:15] <Nobody2500> IntuitiveNipple: Not tonight. I rebuilt the server last night and don't want to open that can-o-worms. But, I will jot down your url
[05:15] <Nobody2500> Maybe tomorrow
[05:15] <Judicata> Tonren: #azureus-support (here on freenode)
[05:15] <sciboy> Hey, i need some help from people more familiar with compilation errors.
[05:15] <sciboy> http://pastebin.ca/raw/325345
[05:16] <Tonren> Awesome
[05:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: That's the Ubunutu Paste Bin
[05:16] <sciboy> I'm trying to compile: http://www.les-stooges.org/pascal/pencil/contents/Download/pencil-0.4b-mac-src.tgz
[05:16] <Vandalay> & use sun java
[05:17] <heydabop> Where is the folder that WINE keeps it's "c:" drive in?
[05:17] <Nobody2500> IntuitiveNipple: I follwed the link and see that it's not related to YOU
[05:17] <sciboy> Any takers?
[05:17] <Vandalay> ctrl H
[05:17] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[05:17] <heydabop> I've seen it before, but I forgot where it is.
[05:17] <Nobody2500> Are you here often? I coul dlook for you when I get back to that problem
[05:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: It's just a place to paste large text files temporarily so we don't clutter up the chat windows
[05:17] <unperson> Ok, so I'm in this busybox shell labeled "(initramfs)".  I mounted /boot and looked at the menu.lst for grub and it appears to have an error.  I have two questions: Is there an editor in busybox with which I can edit the file, and do I have to/will I be able to run update-grub?
[05:18] <bulmer> java in ubuntu is gcj? this ever work at all? i always have problems with gcj java on fedora too
[05:18] <IamEthos> I guess I can just set a new one.
[05:18] <IamEthos> wow
[05:18] <wastrel> unperson:  vi or nano perhaps
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> heydabop: ~/.wine somethign
[05:18] <Vandalay> standard java is suboptimal
[05:18] <IamEthos> my mom is going to be pissed
[05:18] <Nobody2500> But, the truth is that maybe I shouldn't be putting a GUI on my server. I'm trying to learn everything at once and want to see it work
[05:18] <IdleOne> bulmer: there is sun java in ubuntu also
[05:18] <mcquaid> heydabop, it's in your home .wine/drive_c/Program Files ...
[05:18] <Vandalay> read unusable
[05:18] <IdleOne> !java | bulmer
[05:18] <ubotu> bulmer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:18] <heydabop> Ok.
[05:18] <heydabop> Thanks.
[05:18] <wastrel> IamEthos:  there's no password afaik
[05:18] <kiamo> when installing beryl on edgy how do i know wether to choose with XGL or AIGLX?
[05:19] <mister_roboto> Vandalay: i think the point is that gcj is even more suboptimal :)   or is that what you mean by "standard"?
[05:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Nobody2500: I'm also in the Ubuntu forums, same nickname, if you want to post your problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=132
[05:19] <heydabop> Tonyarusso: What?
[05:19] <IamEthos> wastrel, that's right, but ssh won't let you loging without one
[05:19] <heydabop> somethign?
[05:19] <IamEthos> so I have to set one first
[05:19] <IamEthos> geez
[05:19] <bulmer> IdleOne: i need to remove the gcj java to have a working Sun java right?
[05:19] <Vandalay> -)
[05:19] <Nobody2500> Thanks IntuitiveNipple
[05:19] <Vandalay> jst my experience
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> heydabop: I'm not sure what subdir
[05:19] <IamEthos> I'm attempting to have my mom get ssh running on ubuntu without a monitor
[05:19] <heydabop> Ok.
[05:19] <heydabop> Thanks.
[05:19] <Nobody2500> Can anyone tell me how to access my USB stick from a console session? Don't have a GUI on my server - but I have Webmin working.
[05:19] <mister_roboto> Vandalay: huh? that was a question about waht you mean by standard
[05:19] <IamEthos> is there a way to boot an ubuntu livecd without x?
[05:20] <IdleOne> bulmer: not sure but I think when you install sun java it will become default. maybe not
[05:20] <IamEthos> (an easy way...)
[05:20] <Vandalay> teh free mb thats comes standard
[05:20] <Vandalay> java
[05:20] <tickus> Does gnome support multiple desktop wallpapers like KDE????
[05:20] <wastrel> Nobody2500:  do  df -h  and see where it's mounted then cd to that directory  (somewhere under /media most likely)
[05:20] <Vandalay> but im no programmer
[05:20] <IamEthos> does anyone know?
[05:21] <mister_roboto> bulmer: no you don't but you should run update-java-alternatives after installing it
[05:21] <IdleOne> IamEthos: dont think you can
[05:21] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html
[05:21] <Vandalay> just experienced lots of crashes with gjc or what the name of java bundled with distro
[05:21] <IamEthos> that sucks
[05:21] <IamEthos> no live cd should require X
[05:21] <IamEthos> that's just silly
[05:21] <Nobody2500> I'll do it ... also, can I just remove it when I'm done or do I have to do something? And if so what?
[05:21] <bulmer> mister_roboto: even just installing Sun java, is done via synaptic or command line?
[05:21] <Vandalay> i think not
[05:22] <Vandalay> jou must dl it from sun mb
[05:22] <IntuitiveNipple> IamEthos: Will it let you switch away from the X-term to a regular console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:37] <IdleOne> bulmer: either or sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[05:37] <IamEthos> IntuitiveNipple, yep
[05:37] <mister_roboto> bulmer:  you can do it via command line if you use apt-get or with synaptic. it's in the repositories
[05:37] <IamEthos> which is essential
[05:37] <IamEthos> but a text mode would be helpful
[05:37] <bulmer> thanks for the replies
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> IamEthos: The text mode is on the Alternate CD
[05:37] <mister_roboto> bulmer: sun-java5-jdk or jre
[05:37] <bulmer> mister_roboto: okay cool
[05:37] <mister_roboto> bulmer: you need jdk if you're gonna compile any java
[05:37] <jdrake> Does anyone know why gnuplot doesn't seem to have the pdf output type listed from the default packages installed?
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks, but vi doesn't seem to work at this busybox prompt.
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Hmmm, thats not helpful
[05:37] <IdleOne> unperson: try nano or pico
[05:37] <unperson> wastrel, Unfortunately, I find neither nano nor vi.
[05:37] <bulmer> mister_roboto: yep i will be needing the jdk
[05:37] <m12> how do you clear the list from "Run Application"? (alt+f2)
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: How about "vim" ?
[05:37] <IdleOne> m12: type free the fish
[05:37] <DARKGuy> Anybody knows how to change the ALT key to *don't* move the window? I'm having issues with apps that use the ALT key for other stuff. Could I remap it to, for example, the windows key? (using XFCE)
[05:37] <unperson> IdleOne, No nano.  I don'y think pico is an option due to licensing.
[05:37] <jason0_> Anyone here use gimme on amd_64?
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I can try it, but it wasn't listed among the shell functions and I see no executables.  Not for anything I recognize as an editor, actually.
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[05:37] <m12> IdleOne: hah, very funny
[05:37] <unperson> Here's a question.  Can I fix my grub configurating by booting up with a live CD?
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> what does "help" tell you?
[05:37] <IdleOne> m12: dont ask I dont know how to get rid of it
[05:37] <IdleOne> :/
[05:37] <DARKGuy> unperson: yes
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Edgy.
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Yes... and ok :)
[05:37] <m12> thanks regardless
[05:37] <unperson> Ok, let me check the help on busybox one more time and then reboot.  I have to switch the monitor to the other box for that, so BIAF.
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I'll try booting the liveCD on a spare notebook here, see what it gives me
[05:37] <izmeh> i'm trying to install xchat according to thier how-to. When i go to use ./configure, i get this error
[05:37] <looooo> hi
[05:37] <izmeh> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[05:37] <izmeh> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[05:37] <izmeh> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[05:37] <izmeh> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !paste
[05:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:37] <izmeh> sorry
[05:37] <DemosDemon> sudo apt-get install glib-dev
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !build_essentials
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !build_essential
[05:37] <bean> hi i can't seem to use the log function in C code anymore.. on both desktop and laptop, get this error: findAI.c:(.text+0x1265): undefined reference to `log'
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !build-essential
[05:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:37] <BlueEagle> there you go izmeh
[05:37] <cypruser> I have a problem with Firefox. It can't copy images. When I right-click an image, I do not see the Copy Image option.
[05:37] <bean> even though the code compiled and ran perfectly before
[05:37] <bean> i think it was due to an ubuntu update cos a few days ago it was fine
[05:37] <looooo> guys I am an a very big trouble can anyone help me please
[05:37] <kuma> hi: I'm going to change my main board and processor, i'll reinstall both kubuntu and winXp, is there anyway to save my customized settings?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: Has it been bug-reported already? If not it would be a good idea.
[05:37] <ardchoille42> cypruser, Do you have a "View Image option? If so, click it and see if you have a copy option when the image is being viewed
[05:37] <frogzoo> kuma: backup /etc/ & /home
[05:37] <sciboy> looooo, I told you to use a wood chipper to dispose of the body, but noooo you didn't listen to me.
[05:37] <kuma> frogzoo: that's all? :O
[05:37] <bean> BlueEagle, i'm not sure, but i'm in deep shit
[05:37] <BlueEagle> looooo: I say go with the hacksaw.
[05:37] <looooo> looooooooooool
[05:37] <cypruser> ardchoille42: Yes, I do. However, your solution does not work.
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: I am sorry to hear that.
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | bean
[05:37] <ubotu> bean: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:37] <frogzoo> kuma: pretty much - don't copy back /etc, just restore what you need
[05:37] <bean> sorry
[05:37] <ardchoille42> cypruser, That's quite odd
[05:37] <yopad> whats a good tool to edit audio?
[05:37] <bean> but i need the code to compile
[05:37] <bean> sigh
[05:37] <yopad> something like wavepad?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> yopad: Audacity is quite nice.
[05:37] <zukunft[lec] > !sugar
[05:37] <kuma> frogzoo: I beg your pardon?
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sugar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <yopad> thanks blue
[05:37] <Vandalay> my system is perfect now..never going to update anything anymore
[05:37] <Vandalay> -)
[05:37] <frogzoo> kuma: restore /etc selectively
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: You could try downgrading.
[05:37] <looooo> i was resizing my hard disk then I had an error message now I can't install the ubuntu or run the XP
[05:37] <_dd02_> Umm, what is the xgl/compiz/beryl help #channel ?
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> _dd02_: #ubuntu-xgl, #beryl
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[05:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:37] <frogzoo> _dd02_: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:37] <kuma> frogzoo: I see, ok :) do you know if there's a way to save all the updates i've done? it's a bitch to download again the 150 updated packages
[05:37] <_dd02_> Thanks guys
[05:37] <unperson> Back.  IntuitiveNipple thanks for trying it out with me.  :-)
[05:37] <bean> BlueEagle, how?
[05:37] <frogzoo> kuma: you'll find those under /var/cache/apt - but you'll still need to install them
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: man apt-get
[05:37] <looooo> i was resizing my hard disk then I had an error message now I can't install the ubuntu or run the XP
[05:37] <looooo> i was resizing my hard disk then I had an error message now I can't install the ubuntu or run the XP
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson - I installed and tried busybox here and its got vi
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: or aptitude or adept or what's that last one called.. synaptic?
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Ok, I checked busybox again, and help listed nothing I recognized as an editor.  The only way to edit a file I could see was via sed.
[05:37] <ardchoille42> Does Ubuntu have a DVD ISO download?
[05:37] <bean> ok but i don't know which package caused the problem
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Does it matter that mine was at the initramfs prompt?
[05:37] <kuma> frogzoo: so by backing up /var/cache/apt/ i don't have to download all those packages? =D all i have to do is reinstall them?
[05:37] <bean> maybe i'll try booting an older kernel
[05:37] <BlueEagle> bean: Neither do I. If you look in the bugs list you might get a clue there. If not you'll just have to try.
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> bean: have you got the GNU math library (/usr/lib/libm.a) on your link libraries list
[05:37] <zukunft[lec] > looooo, use super grub disk and try to restore your grub and windows
[05:37] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Sorry, I'm not familiar enough with the boot process to give a clearer explanation.
[05:37] <bean> IntuitiveNipple, how do i check if i do?
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I'm not sure but I'll be very surprised if they took out an editor!
[05:37] <looooo> thx
[05:37] <bean> i just included math.h and it worked fine before
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> bean - the makefile?
[05:38] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, In any case, I had type vi in busybox and the shell said command not found (or some such).
[05:38] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, In any case, I've now booted with the live CD and mounted the /boot partition on the HD.  I have menu.lst open.
[05:38] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: is this all related to getting your RAID config to work?
[05:38] <bean> IntuitiveNipple, i just compile the c code directly, don't use a makefile
[05:38] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson - good pan!
[05:38] <IntuitiveNipple> err, plan
[05:39] <IntuitiveNipple> bean, so whats giving you the error then? It sounds like a linker error
[05:39] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Yes.  I think the RAID is working but for some reason grub is pointed to the wrong partition for root.
[05:39] <kiamo> how do i decide between XGL and AIGLX when installing Beryl on edgy?
[05:39] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Nothing surprises me anymore :)
[05:39] <vandit2k7> Hi can anybody help me with fglrx?
[05:40] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, In menu.lst it has a bunch of occurances of "root=/dev/md1" while the device containing / is /dev/md0.
[05:40] <frogzoo> kiamo: ati = xgl, nvidia = aiglx
[05:40] <bean> IntuitiveNipple, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2599/
[05:40] <kiamo> thanks frogzoo
[05:40] <rellik> my BIOS recognises 3 HDDs and 1 CD drive (hdb).  however, I can only fdisk hda and hdc to see the filesystems...  'sudo fdisk /dev/hdd' returns 'Unable to open /dev/hdd'..  The BIOS definately sees the drive..  how do I get linux to see the drive?
[05:40] <vandit2k7> can anybody help me with fglrx
[05:41] <vandit2k7> ?
[05:41] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: create another boot stanza and point it to the partition you think it ought to be, and try that. if it doesn't work you haven't disturbed an existing entry
[05:41] <BlueEagle> rellik: sudo fdisk -l
[05:41] <BlueEagle> rellik: that will list all drives.
[05:41] <frogzoo> unperson: that's odd - it should point to the root device, obviously
[05:41] <unperson> frogzoo, Indeed.
[05:41] <bean> IntuitiveNipple, BlueEagle sorry i mean this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2600/
[05:42] <rellik> BlueEagle, but why can't I fdisk hdd?  hardware error?
[05:42] <IntuitiveNipple> bean: that looks to me as if the LOG2 function relies on 'lg' which is in another library
[05:42] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Ok.  Though either way it doesn't make too much difference.  As yet the disks just have the install on them, no personal data.  But good advice nonetheless.
[05:42] <bean> yes the LOG2 just makes use of the log
[05:42] <IntuitiveNipple> bean: same answer applies!
[05:42] <bean> which is in math.h
[05:42] <bean> or was at least
[05:42] <bean> it compiled and ran perfectly before
[05:43] <BlueEagle> rellik: It might not be hdd after all.
[05:43] <bean> why doesn't it work now?
[05:43] <IntuitiveNipple> the header file declares external functions, but what library are they in?
[05:43] <Vandalay> thats why never update -)
[05:43] <BlueEagle> rellik: That's the most likely scenario since you've made no mention of wether or not fdisk -l lists it.
[05:43] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: did you read my reply earlier tonight to your forum posts?
[05:43] <bean> the gnu math library?
[05:44] <frogzoo> unperson: from man bootparam "This  argument  tells the kernel what device is to be used as the root filesystem while booting. " - not sure if that means / or /boot
[05:44] <svfusion> anyone a pro with apache
[05:44] <svfusion> ?
[05:44] <rellik> BlueEagle, it is..  I can see it in the computer..  but the computer has been in storage for several months..  so maybe it didn't age well..  and no, hdd was not listed by 'fdisk -l'
[05:44] <IntuitiveNipple> bean - I don't know which libraries your program is relying on, you'd have to check your docs and headers etc for that
[05:44] <BlueEagle> !ask
[05:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <vandit2k7> can anybody help me with fglrx ATI thing?
[05:44] <IntuitiveNipple> bean: but that error suggests an unresolved external reference
[05:45] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, But the question is, after I edit that, then what do I do?  I saw things about running grub-update, but will that act on the right thing, since this menu.lst is not the one for the live CD but for the boot partition I've mounted as /mnt/boot
[05:45] <BlueEagle> rellik: Have you tried disconnecting one of the other drives and hooking the failing hdd to another ide channel/controller?
[05:45] <rellik> BlueEagle, I will try that
[05:45] <vandit2k7> anyone good with fglrx?
[05:45] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: you don't need to run grub-update when you manually edit the file :)
[05:45] <beterraba> how to show the ocult pastes and files in X?
[05:46] <BlueEagle> !ask > vandit2k7
[05:46] <bean> IntuitiveNipple, ah nevermind i figured it out
[05:46] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: as long as the GRUB file makes sense when the system boots
[05:46] <bean> forgot the -lm swtich for gcc
[05:46] <bean> silly me
[05:46] <bean> sorry for the trouble guys
[05:46] <bean> thanks
[05:46] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I hadn't seen your forum post until just now..  Risk of data loss isn't a huge issue, as I intend to back up the data on another drive either way.  Based on what I'd read, RAID0 is supposed to considerably increase HD throughput.
[05:46] <beterraba> hello, how to show the ocult pastes and files in X?
[05:47] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I see.  Good to know.  I'd not messed with grub much.
[05:47] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: in my experience it gives very little gain
[05:47] <IntuitiveNipple> but it leaves you twice as vulnerable... its best to combine stripes with a mirror (RAID 1+0)
[05:47] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I suppose I can find out. soon.  :-)
[05:48] <beterraba> how to show the ocult pastes and files in X?
[05:48] <izmeh> if i regen a UUID  on a drive, will i lose the data on it?
[05:48] <xai> Is there an apt-repo for 'network ups tools' , NUT ?
[05:48] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson - I run a RAID 1+0 for security (4 x 60GB drives to give 1 120GB drive)
[05:48] <xai> for edgy..
[05:49] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I'm seldom doing anything so important that losing 1 day's worth of data on this machine will be a huge deal.  It's just my home desktop.  And at even twice the failure probability, it is still rather low.
[05:49] <rjgrant1> I running Ubuntu 6.10.  How do I set my resolution higher?  I'm new to Ubuntu.
[05:49] <frogzoo> unperson: if you change kopt, you need 2 run 'sudo update-grub'
[05:49] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: as long as you're sure - the only reason for stripping is if the drive is doing a lot of random writes or reads
[05:49] <rebz_> rjgrant: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[05:50] <rat_poison> hello, need some help. How do I configure which ports to open through NAT? I'm using Edgy Eft, Firestarter and an ethernet router
[05:50] <unperson> frogzoo, Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you.  I got the impression that groot is supposed to point to /boot in menu.lst.  root is supposed to point to something different.  I think that's /, but I'm not 100% sure.
[05:50] <x_or> I need to know how to recover a system where the root password was mistakenly set using the liveCD.  Can someone tell me the steps?
[05:51] <unperson> frogzoo, I see.  But do I need to change kopt if I just add one entry at the end as IntuitiveNipple is suggesting?
[05:51] <rebz_> where do i add a program to be loaded at boot time
[05:51] <brianski> howdy. i just installed flashplugin-nonfree (from seveas' repo), but i aborted at the wrong time, and now i'm in a state where i can neither get dpkg to realize it is a) installed or b) uninstalled
[05:51] <brianski> is there some state somewhere i can clear?
[05:51] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, You mean because otherwise caching and stuff ought to save you?
[05:52] <brianski> i suspect i accidentally accidentally selected "no" from the "do you agree to the licensing terms" question the first time
[05:52] <rebz_> brianski, that'll teach you! ;)
[05:53] <brianski> any ideas? i've dpkg -r ( and then -P ) and reinstalled multiple times and get the same error - "Downloading - download failed"
[05:53] <rjgrant1> My screen resolution goes only as high as 1024 x 768, but it should read up to 1280 x 1024.  How do I correct that?  Do I have to reload my Ubuntu 6.10 install disc?
[05:53] <brianski> rebz_, what for?
[05:53] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: It depends so much on the hardware layout - the reason for stripping is to avoid latency of the disk heads moving from track to track on the disk.
[05:53] <xai> ok.. i just added universe to the sources list
[05:53] <wastrel> rjgrant1:  try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and choose the resolution you want when you get to that screen.
[05:54] <Lam_> can i just $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/cdrom  to erase the cd-rw? or is there a more effective way?
[05:54] <Hirvinen> If one has four disks of equal size and is content with the space of two disks, one should use RAID 6, which uses two disks for redundancy(1 + 0 uses half of the disks.) Into that, additional drives can be added one at a time, yielding an increase in space equal to their sizes and would survive simultaneous death of any two disks, unlike 1 + 0, which would require disks to be added in pairs, ...
[05:54] <Hirvinen> ... yielding space increase of only one disk, being capable of surviving up to half of the disks dying simultaneously, but *only if* no two disks that were mirrors of each other died.
[05:54] <cld2> anyone here using opera?  if so is there a way to attach the widgets to the "bar" area instead of having them float around? thanks.
[05:54] <frogzoo> unperson: that makes sense, so you shouldn't need to touch kopt
[05:54] <brianski> Lam_, considering that doesn't work, there are more effective ways :)
[05:54] <beterraba> how to show the ocult pastes and files in X?
[05:54] <brianski> cld2, i use it on occasion for testing. not sure why you'd want to use it for more than that on linux *shrug*
[05:55] <Lam_> brianski: care to share some?
[05:55] <izmeh> i used "blkid" to find the uuid on a drived formatted fat32, it returns with only 8 characters "xxxx-xxxx" for the uuid of that drive
[05:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Hirvinen: Are you going to write the RAID 6 drivers for md then? :)
[05:55] <wastrel> !pt | beterraba
[05:55] <ubotu> beterraba: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:55] <Spasticteapot> Can anyone here help me install qtspeakerdesigner?
[05:55] <brianski> Lam, pop open the gui cd writing tool of your choice
[05:55] <rjgrant1> Thanks Wastrel......will try that!
[05:55] <brianski> xcdroast, k3b, whatedver
[05:56] <Spasticteapot> I downloaded the .zip, unpacked it, tar xvfd'd the file, and then tried qmake.
[05:56] <cld2> brianski: opera rules at keyboard less browsing.
[05:56] <brianski> i think in gnome you can just right-click the desktop icon and click erase
[05:56] <Spasticteapot> It did'nt work.
[05:56] <Nobody2500> wastrel: back to the USB issue. I don't see the USB from the df -h result
[05:56] <_dd02_> Does anybody know where I can find Flash 9 for amd64?
[05:56] <Hirvinen> IntuitiveNipple: For serious applications, I would use a hardware(not BIOS) RAID controller.
[05:56] <Vandalay> does flash9 not crash
[05:57] <qmf> Hi there, i was wondering if it's possible to make a session script that starts hardly anything to speed up games?
[05:57] <brianski> Vandalay, it runs stably for me (when i can get it installed)
[05:57] <jrib> _dd02_: does not exist afaik
[05:57] <_dd02_> -_-
[05:57] <Vandalay> ok
[05:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Hirvinen: So would we all, but that isn't what unperson is dealing with.
[05:57] <wastrel> Nobody2500:  do you get any kernel messages when you plug it in?   tail -f /var/log/messages  before you plug it in
[05:57] <_dd02_> jrib: are there any alternatives?
[05:57] <jrib> !flash | _dd02_
[05:57] <ubotu> _dd02_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <Marlinspike> Quick Question. Want to install ubuntu on a system with a hair less than 192 megs of ram. Will this work alright?
[05:57] <jrib> _dd02_: there are a couple of ways to get flash, see the restricted wiki page's links
[05:58] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, But ought it not also give (in the ideal case) double the data throughput, assuming your controller can handle it?
[05:58] <brianski> Marlinspike, probably
[05:58] <IntuitiveNipple> My main server has a RAID5 dell PERC2 controller, but my workstations have been more than happy with Promise FastTrak RAID 1+0
[05:58] <riotkittie> yay fer 1 - annoying away msgs and 2 self promotion in them
[05:58] <Nobody2500> yes, not at the console now to see. Hey, how can I see the main server console from a remote XP system? I installed SCREEN last night but don't know if that will help
[05:58] <brianski> Marlinspike, use xubuntu (xfce)
[05:58] <wastrel> Marlinspike:  gnome or kde will be pretty slow - fluxbox would be better for your windowmanager.
[05:58] <Spasticteapot> Xubuntu is good stuff.
[05:58] <unperson> Ok, I changed menu.list.  So I guess I'm going to reboot the other machine and cross my fingers.
[05:59] <riotkittie> fluxbox is sweeeeet. like candy.
[05:59] <frogzoo> Marlinspike: gui will suck, otherwise np
[05:59] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: theoretically if you want to write a file system and applications that are aware to that degree. There's a few good studies of RAID software performance I've seen, they're well worth looking at
[05:59] <Marlinspike> I'm hearing good stuff about kubuntu. Easier on the system, is it?
[05:59] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Good luck :)
[05:59] <Vandalay> hehe that nice zx spectrum gui
[06:00] <riotkittie> Marlinspike: no. kubuntu... kde tends to be heavier than gnome
[06:00] <Spasticteapot> Not much.
[06:00] <Spasticteapot> Xubuntu is the way to go, if you ask me.
[06:00] <Marlinspike> Thanks. Looks like fluxbox for me
[06:00] <Spasticteapot> ('Course, I'm a total newbie and like XFCE.)
[06:01] <Nobody2500> How can I see the server console session? I use Putty from my XP box, but each session is unique. I want to see the system messages
[06:02] <brianski> i saw a post the other day on configuring xfce with beryl
[06:02] <brianski> i laughed and laughed
[06:02] <wastrel> Nobody2500:  tail -f /var/log/messages
[06:02] <vandit2k7> Hi I get those error messages in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log    ---> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[06:02] <vandit2k7> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[06:02] <vandit2k7> and then it says
[06:03] <vandit2k7> DRI failed
[06:03] <riotkittie> ive run both GNOME and KDE on a box with 192 mb ram but that was a few years ago and im not really sure how much has changed. i have 256 at the moment and can run both GNOME and KDE without a hitch. you can try them, who knows. XFCE runs just like the other two for me but if you play around with apps, it should be lighter. but really, fluxbox rocks
[06:03] <vandit2k7> but nothing about Composite
[06:03] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, frogzoo, It worked!  Reboot was successful and my Ubuntu desktop came up.
[06:03] <vandit2k7> what do I do
[06:03] <Nobody2500> wastrel: awsome - thanks
[06:03] <frogzoo> Nobody2500: direct the console to the serial port maybe & use a serial cable
[06:03] <vandit2k7> can anyone help
[06:03] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Well done... I'll have a cup of tea to celebrate :)
[06:03] <frogzoo> unperson: why didn't it work b4?
[06:03] <IntuitiveNipple> wrong partition was pointed to for root
[06:04] <frogzoo> ah
[06:04] <unperson> frogzoo, For some reason the menu.lst for grub had the wrong location of /
[06:04] <IntuitiveNipple> the installer got confused about the MD RAID config by the sound of it
[06:04] <wastrel> i ran fluxbox on a system with 64 MB of RAM just fine
[06:04] <unperson> frogzoo, It must be a bug in the installer.
[06:05] <vandit2k7> Hi I get those error messages in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log    ---> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[06:05] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks a lot for your help.  I was beginning to despair of ever figuring it out.
[06:05] <riotkittie> fluxbox rocks. and i like the fact that i can use the transparency without it being a huge drain on  my resources.
[06:05] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I've been through it, I know how it feels :)
[06:05] <riotkittie> using xcompmgr and transset in GNOME can get quite ugly
[06:05] <wheels3572> Ok I have a VERY strange Issue.  Anyone ever heard of Downloading 6.10 and it end up saying 6.06 when its' said and done?
[06:05] <riotkittie> wheels3572: uhhh. where'd you download it from?
[06:05] <IdleOne> wheels3572: where did you download it from
[06:06] <wheels3572> riotkittie, xubuntu.com
[06:06] <vandit2k7> is anybody good with fglrx?
[06:06] <wheels3572> IdleOne, Xubuntu.com
[06:06] <IntuitiveNipple> what "says" its 6.06 ?
[06:06] <wheels3572> isnt edgy 6.10?
[06:06] <Vandalay> im surrounde by frglx-gurus
[06:06] <IntuitiveNipple> yes
[06:06] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, As far as the RAID0 performance thing, it's something that might be worth looking into some more.  I mean, on a basic level, it seems there should be considerable advantage to a RAID0, but I'm certainly open to the idea that that's not how it works in practice.
[06:07] <vandit2k7> IntuitiveNipple are u good with fglrx
[06:07] <Nobody2500> wastrel: before I remove the USB stick and look for insertion messages - is this a no no and should I be ejecting the stick with some utility?
[06:07] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I love RAID1 - Ive seen so many hard disk go down and it simply means no disruption
[06:07] <wheels3572> My contents in the ISO reads ./dists/edgy/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all/edgy.tar.gz
[06:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Vandalay: No, but i'm good with my hands
[06:07] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I'd be interested in reading a bit about comparisons of actual performance, though I sometimes can't make heads or tails of the details of FS comparisons when they get down to all the different sorts of operations.
[06:08] <Vandalay> aha
[06:08] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, (and I study quantum physics for my day job  :-) )
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I read a neat comparison that was all pretty graphs - thats what brought it home to me
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> I was after the ultimate performance beforehand, too
[06:08] <La_AnezZ> Holaa !
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Especially as I capture massive files from my DV camcorders
[06:09] <crxyem> I like raid5 personally
[06:09] <verve> hey guys, any of you know how to get KDE Crypto to accept invalid SSL certificates? i use SSL on an irc server i go on, and Konversation won't work with it
[06:09] <verve> 'cause it's an invalid cert.
[06:09] <wheels3572> Is there any other way to install an ISO if my CD-Rom Drive will NOT read the CD
[06:09] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I study quantum linux :p
[06:09] <NthDegree> wheels3572, there is one crazy way
[06:09] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Yeah, I think because this is not a mission critical server or anything, RAID1 has limited advantages for me.  Frequent backups to a seperate disk have the advantage that they protect against user error as well as hardware failures.  A little bit of downtime for my personal desktop to restore from the backup is not a big deal.
[06:10] <wastrel> Nobody2500:  generally yes, you can lose data if you don't unmount properly. (buffered writes...)  but if it's not properly mounted (see anything in /media/ that might be it?) there's no danger.  and if you haven't been writing to it-  no worries.
[06:10] <riotkittie> i watch quatum leap. that sam... he's so dreamy.
[06:10] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I can tell you're not a techie that's really suffered... you lucky sod :D
[06:10] <NthDegree> wheels3572, VMWare and install ubuntu that way
[06:10] <wheels3572> NthDegree, well right now I cant get install onto my desktop cuz my CDRW will NOT read the CD-R but my laptop reads it perfectly and installs perfectly on the laptop jus tnot desktop
[06:10] <NthDegree> wheels3572, get it to use a physical partition
[06:11] <NthDegree> install vmware
[06:11] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: check this out scroll down to Table 1 http://archive.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/bangbuck/bangbuck.php
[06:11] <littleknoppy1> Im trying to set up grub on a USB stick and it fails within grub install   its says it can't find  e2fs_stage_1_5   even though I copied it over
[06:11] <NthDegree> then use the ISO file as a cdrom
[06:11] <wheels3572> NthDegree, I have VMWARE actually already instead
[06:11] <NthDegree> then use hard disk as a separate physical partion
[06:11] <NthDegree> then install from livecd
[06:11] <NthDegree> then boot from the physical raw hardware
[06:11] <izmeh> HAH! got xchat installed
[06:12] <NthDegree> and one working copy of ubuntu NOT inside vmware
[06:12] <NthDegree> but as I said it's crazy :p
[06:12] <brianski> hmm, somehow i managed to install ubuntu without shadow passwords
[06:12] <wheels3572> NthDegree, but that still does not solve the issue of my ISO needing to be read from CD right?
[06:12] <brianski> anyone know how i can reconfigure it to use shadow passwords?
[06:12] <NthDegree> it does solve it
[06:12] <NthDegree> VMWare can read the ISO file
[06:12] <NthDegree> and mount as a virtual CD
[06:12] <wheels3572> NthDegree, ohhh ok
[06:12] <wheels3572> gotcha
[06:13] <andre_> hello
[06:13] <someothernick> hi
[06:13] <n00b> Hi, I could use some help, this is my first attempt at installing linux, I'm getting "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[06:14] <NthDegree> laptop right?
[06:14] <vandit2k7> can anybody please help me with fglrx?
[06:14] <someothernick> !ati
[06:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:14] <NthDegree> n00b: it's a lappy right?
[06:14] <Vandalay> isnt there an hoeto on the forums
[06:14] <littleknoppy1> Im trying to set up grub on a USB stick and it fails within grub install   its says it can't find  e2fs_stage_1_5   even though I copied it over
[06:14] <vandit2k7> yeah I followed the BinaryDriverHowTo no help
[06:15] <n2diy> Yesterday I set up gpg, and today, I tried to decrypt my first message, but I'm getting crc errors, ideas?
[06:15] <wastrel> night night <3
[06:15] <n00b> NthDegree: yep
[06:15] <Vandalay> but ati & linux = suboptimal
[06:15] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, This looks quite interesting.  Yeah, i can see in table 1 that the difference between 6 disk RAID0 and 6 simple disks is quite small.
[06:15] <vandit2k7> ?
[06:15] <n00b> NthDegree: old lappy, xubuntu, 64MB ram
[06:15] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson, its a whole fascinating subject in its own right :)
[06:15] <vandit2k7> nvidia never gives me such problems
[06:15] <Nobody2500> Thanks wastrel
[06:15] <Vandalay> you have to configure lots of things
[06:16] <n00b> NthDegree: tried noapic nolapic already
[06:16] <Vandalay> trila & error
[06:16] <Vandalay> er trial
[06:17] <NthDegree> hmmm
[06:17] <ifbermeo> does anyone know how to play m4a files in edgy?
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> first you don't succeed, again you try Vandalay
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:17] <Vandalay> google is your friend
[06:17] <Vandalay> -)
[06:17] <NthDegree> !proprietaryformats
[06:17] <Ruffles> ifbermeo: have you tried xmms
[06:17] <NthDegree> heh ubotu has changed ^_^
[06:17] <chillisoup> 915resolution is giving me issues with Feisty Fawn. its correctly being run by init.d, but X requires restart (ctrl+alt+backspace) before it switches to widescreen. anyway have an idea?
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> mplayer?
[06:18] <ifbermeo> is that in synaptic?
[06:18] <n00b> NthDegree: any thoughts?
[06:18] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I guess the question is to what degree the distribution of file sizes is representative of files that will be read during user interaction on a home desktop (i.e. MY desktop :-).  If they're as small as they're using in the study, I guess it makes sense that striping doesn't help too much.
[06:18] <NthDegree> n00b, i'm not really sure I think you can try acpi=off
[06:18] <NthDegree> if it's an ACPI thing, which I kinda doubt in many ways
[06:18] <n00b> NthDegree: isnt that what napic did?
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> chillisoup, i had that too... i just gave up and will wait till the bugs are fixed
[06:18] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I'll have to read it more carefully to understand the assumptions that go into the study.
[06:19] <n00b> noapic*
[06:19] <chillisoup> nomaster,.  :)  i feared as much :)
[06:19] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Just make sure you back up your findings :p
[06:19] <NthDegree> n00b: well apparently apic != acpi
[06:19] <NthDegree> even though disabling one has an effect on the other O_O
[06:19] <chillisoup> nomasteryoda, it seems such an odd problem though, i can't even begin to think what is causing it
[06:20] <n00b> NthDegree: crap, was that someones misprint?
[06:20] <n00b> lemme try it noacpi
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> chillisoup: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty issues though
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> i installed feisty on this laptop via a usb drive... so it was not necessary to keep it here...
[06:20] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: This is a recent heavyweight but good report http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q2/chipset-raid/index.x?pg=1
[06:20] <NthDegree> n00b: both acpi and apic are both legit things
[06:20] <littleknoppy1>  :( Im trying to set up grub on a USB stick and it fails within grub install   its says it can't find  e2fs_stage_1_5   even though I copied it over
[06:20] <n2diy> Yesterday I set up gpg, and today, I tried to decrypt my first message, but I'm getting crc errors, ideas?
[06:20] <NthDegree> n00b: wasn't a misprint lol
[06:21] <chillisoup> tonyyarusso, ah wow, thanks - i had no idea there was another forum (i had asked previously and no one suggested it)
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> but i did get it running with the i855resolution command chillisoup
[06:21] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Unfortunately, I'm a theorist, not an experimenalist.  :-)
[06:21] <chillisoup> nomasteryoda, does i855 work with the 900 series of intel cards?
[06:22] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Pretty pictures: http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q2/chipset-raid/index.x?pg=3
[06:22] <Vandalay> im making a raid5 with usb sticks
[06:22] <Vandalay> jk
[06:23] <roostishaw> anyone know why the ubuntu live cd wont boot on my macbook?
[06:23] <n00b> NthDegree: i followed some instructions, did they make perm changes to a config or not
[06:23] <n00b> Tonren: n00b: OK, when you boot, if it says "Hit ESC to access menu", do that.  Then at the menu select the normal boot-up option (on top) and hit "e" on it.  I think then you need to select the "boot" line, hit e again.  Then type "noapic nolapic" (you might need to add a space in front).  Then you hit enter, and "b" to boot
[06:23] <m12> does anyone know how to clear the list shown in "Run Application"?
[06:23] <NthDegree> n00b, nope those are temporary
[06:23] <Ruffles> roostishaw: ubuntu's livecd is not always good
[06:23] <NthDegree> n00b, you alter the config file to make that kinda stuff permanent
[06:23] <n00b> NthDegree: ok, thanks, so should i try all three or just noacpi this time?
[06:23] <ifbermeo> what is xmms?
[06:23] <roostishaw> Ruffles: ?
[06:24] <Ruffles> ifbermeo: a media player...
[06:24] <roostishaw> "not always good"?
[06:24] <NthDegree> n00b, try noacpi nolapic noapic acpi=off
[06:24] <n2diy> ! xmms  | ifbero
[06:24] <ubotu> ifbero: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:24] <Ruffles> roostishaw: yups.. it freezes on my pc
[06:24] <cr1mson> I just installed ubuntu 6.10, how can I play streaming window media files?
[06:24] <svfusion> can someone please help me
[06:24] <roostishaw> Ruffles: how will i install then?
[06:24] <NthDegree> n00b, i'm not sure if it will have an effect but it's worth a try
[06:24] <Ruffles> roostishaw: if u wanna install it u can try the alternate-install-cd
[06:24] <roostishaw> svfusion: dont ask to ask
[06:24] <NthDegree> svfusion, what's up?
[06:24] <cr1mson> im wanting to know if totem will play them if i can figure out what files im missing
[06:25] <roostishaw> Ruffles: will it work on a mac (intel)?
[06:25] <svfusion> how do I add a ftp user that has access to /var/www
[06:25] <svfusion> using proftpd
[06:25] <fleischwurst> lol, did somebody try to whois google.com? (   Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM)
[06:25] <n00b> NthDegree: i dunno where the config is, i just no how to follow thos instructions, should i do those on boot?
[06:25] <fleischwurst> wtf
[06:25] <m12> does anyone know where the "home" icon is located?
[06:25] <chillisoup> crlm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> svfusion: add the user to the www-data group, add the setgid bit on /var/www, give group write privs.
[06:25] <NthDegree> n00b, yeah do that on boot like before
[06:25] <svfusion> www-data group
[06:25] <NthDegree> n00b, if it works then i'll walk you through the config :D
[06:25] <svfusion> do I need to make that group
[06:25] <Ruffles> roostishaw: if you get the right version it's likely to work
[06:26] <n00b> NthDegree: K, TRYING
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> svfusion: It's created upon apache installation.
[06:26] <tickus> ANYONE running Ubuntu Edgy on a Abit It7 Max2??
[06:26] <svfusion> moduser svfusion -g www-data
[06:26] <svfusion> ?
[06:26] <roostishaw> Ruffles: alrighty then...
[06:26] <roostishaw> Ruffles: thanks
[06:26] <arpjp> could someone help me, how can i limit bandwith using iptables could someone give me one example to limit one ip in 128kb ?
[06:26] <n2diy> Yesterday I set up gpg, and today, I tried to decrypt my first message, but I'm getting crc errors, I removed all the headers from he file, it was an email, but still no joy.
[06:26] <NthDegree> svfusion, okay
[06:27] <NthDegree> svfusion, try gpasswd
[06:27] <svfusion> gpasswd for what?
[06:27] <NthDegree> svfusion, for going in the www-data group
[06:27] <IdleOne> can someone paste the contents of pevents.conf in ./xchat2 for me please
[06:27] <m12> does anyone know how to clear the list shown in "Run Application"?
[06:27] <IntuitiveNipple> noob: try using this on the kernel boot line: " acpi=noirq"
[06:28] <IntuitiveNipple> oops...
[06:28] <Ruffles> m12: pls tell me if you find out :)
[06:28] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b: try using this on the kernel boot line: " acpi=noirq"
[06:28] <svfusion> so what would I need to do to make user fusionsite a member of www-data
[06:28] <m12> will do
[06:28] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Cool.  Thanks for showing me these.  I'll have to look them over more when I have time.  Unfortunately, I think I need to head for bed in a minute.  One last question:  Now that I figured out how to get grub to boot the system with this new entry, how do I change to fix it up for all the entries?
[06:28] <philgedd> is there a quick guide to recompiling the kernel the Ubuntu way?
[06:28] <tickus> Anyone running Ubuntu Edgy on a Abit It7 Max2??
[06:29] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: same here, its 5.30am! Alter the default settings in menu.lst in those # comments areas that kopt etc are at
[06:29] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I mean, I can change the same thing (the value of root=) for each entry, but do I have to do anything with that kopt stuff?
[06:29] <n2diy> ! kernel | philgedd
[06:29] <ubotu> philgedd: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:29] <philgedd> or, does anyone here compile their own kernel?
[06:29] <IntuitiveNipple> those entries in the # comments are used as the template by grub-update etc
[06:29] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I see.  And then must I run update-grub?
[06:30] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, What you said.  I guess the answer is no.
[06:30] <philgedd> the KernelCustomBuild guide acknowledges that you have to build lots of extra stuff using debian/rules, and is not really geared toward the end-user
[06:30] <IntuitiveNipple> not until next time you alter a real stanza, unless there's other stanzas that need updating
[06:30] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, The only one I don't know what to do with is the root=UUID one.  I don't know how to figure out what that should be set to.
[06:30] <Hansel> When I log into XFCE my screen flashes and then my gnome desktop loads on top of it.  How to make it not load my gnome settings?  I have been looking for a .xsession or something to edit but no luck.
[06:30] <svfusion> sudo usermod fusionlan -g www-data
[06:31] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: check in /etc/fstab for the UUIDs
[06:31] <Hansel> If I settings -> settings manager -> desktop -> Allow XFCE to manage the desktop it fixes it but when I logout it doesn't save the settings...
[06:31] <n2diy> philgedd: , that is why most end users don't  build their own kernels.
[06:31] <n00b> NthDegree: does irq11: nobody cared, disabling irq11 matter?
[06:32] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Ok.  Thanks for all your help.  Sleep well.
[06:32] <n00b> NthDegree: it still gave me "cs: pcmcia_socket 1: cardbus cards are not supported."
[06:32] <NthDegree> n00b, not if there's no important devices on IRQ 11
[06:32] <rebz> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my system, but the livecd crashes before it even fully loads. is there a way to do a non-gui install, so I can at least get to a prompt to install the drivers?
[06:32] <NthDegree> n00b, I have no clue how to solve that one then :(
[06:32] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b: did you see my comment re: acpi=noirq ?
[06:32] <Ruffles> rebz, try the alternate install cd
[06:32] <Ruffles> rebz, it's really neat :)
[06:32] <n00b> rebz: how much RAM you have?
[06:32] <rebz> 2GB
[06:32] <NthDegree> rebz, use the alternate CD
[06:32] <NthDegree> that is text-based
[06:33] <rebz> its a pci-e nvidia card
[06:33] <rebz> okay, thanks
[06:33] <Ruffles> yw
[06:33] <NthDegree> rebz, if it's a turbocache card you're not alone :(
[06:33] <n00b> NthDegree: thanks, i'm a little bit farter now, at least i'm beginning to eliminate things
[06:33] <n00b> farther*
[06:33] <n2diy> :)
[06:34] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b: did you see my comment re adding "acpi=noirq" to the kernel boot command line?
[06:34] <n00b> IntuitiveNipple: nope, i'ma look in scrollback right now
[06:34] <noodles12> in windows i can slow down my proc. to 690mhz. in ubuntu on powersave it only goes down to 960mhz. how can i get it all teh way down to 690?
[06:34] <svfusion> how do I add a ftp user that has access to /var/www
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> well that was it really - try adding that on its own (you can leave out all the other options) and try it on its own
[06:35] <NthDegree> svfusion, useradd ftpuser
[06:35] <n2diy> svfusion: sytem/admin/users and groups?
[06:35] <n00b> IntuitiveNipple: k trying
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b: The effect is to defer IRQ allocations until later, which is usually the problem
[06:35] <NthDegree> svfusion, then chmod/chown the stuff correctly
[06:36] <n00b> anybody know of a (windows) irc client that will highlight lines with my name or keywords in them?
[06:36] <svfusion> I cant get it to get in to /var/www
[06:36] <IntuitiveNipple> mIRC does
[06:36] <Ruffles> lol
[06:36] <svfusion> how do I add it to user svfusion
[06:36] <Ruffles> svfusion, alt+o / highlight
[06:37] <svfusion> I am ssh in a server
[06:37] <svfusion> no gui
[06:37] <Ruffles> svfusion, is it about mirc? then edit the mirc.ini
[06:37] <svfusion> omg
[06:37] <svfusion> it has nothing to do with mric
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> LOL
[06:38] <IntuitiveNipple> crossed wires
[06:38] <Ruffles> sorry lol
[06:38] <svfusion> lol
[06:38] <n2diy> Yesterday I set up gpg, and today, I tried to decrypt my first message, but I'm getting crc errors, I removed all the headers from he file, it was an email, but still no joy.
[06:38] <NthDegree> LMFAO
[06:38] <IntuitiveNipple> what an insult to make!
[06:38] <svfusion> NthDegree how do I get this working right
[06:38] <NthDegree> Ruffles, you dare mention mIRC in a GNU/Linux channel? :p
[06:38] <Ruffles> NthDegree, well.. someone did that first IntuitiveNipple> mIRC does
[06:38] <Ruffles> * SilenceGold has quit (
[06:38] <NthDegree> svfusion, useradd
[06:39] <IntuitiveNipple> pffft
[06:39] <CyberSlug> Hello all!
[06:39] <svfusion> useradd then what
[06:39] <SilenceGold> mmm?
[06:39] <Ruffles> NthDegree, mirc's cool though :)
[06:39] <CyberSlug> Does anyone know how to correctly configure an eciadsl modem in Ubuntu?
[06:39] <NthDegree> svfusion, useradd and whatever you want to call the user
[06:39] <NthDegree> svfusion, useradd foobar
[06:39] <NthDegree> lol
[06:39] <IntuitiveNipple> svfusion: what ftp server is it? just regular or something like proftp ?
[06:39] <svfusion> Proftpd
[06:40] <Ruffles> NthDegree, before you put me on a cross i'm runnin' xchat, but i somehow still find mirc better than it
[06:40] <NthDegree> svfusion, useradd proftpd then ^_^
[06:41] <svfusion> then how are they in the /var/www
[06:41] <IntuitiveNipple> svfusion: This might help you: http://archiv.debianhowto.de/en/proftpd/c_proftpd.html#proftpd_useradd
[06:41] <Ruffles> svfusion, create ur user and set its home folder to whatever you want
[06:41] <svfusion> that doesn't work
[06:41] <svfusion> lol
[06:41] <n2diy> ! RTFM
[06:41] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:41] <Ruffles> damn! lol
[06:42] <IntuitiveNipple> ubotu ... gtarjoac !
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtarjoac ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <andy> Hi, I'm trying to set up a remote ubuntu server I got, and when I try to run xhost, I get 'xhost: unable to open display "" ' Does anyone know a solution?
[06:42] <IntuitiveNipple> pfft
[06:42] <CyberSlug> No one knows how to use eciadsl here?
[06:42] <mikejanssen> hmmm
[06:42] <mikejanssen> ive run out of ideas on what i could need to load in ubuntu taht i need to use
[06:42] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:43] <mikejanssen> ...*scratches head*...
[06:43] <Ruffles> CyberSlug, what's up with ur modem? can't you configure the internet connection through " sudo pppoeconf" ?
[06:43] <mikejanssen> now to find out everything else about ubuntu (how to delete unwanted files and whatnot, what diff folders are, basically the basics etc)
[06:43] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:43] <CyberSlug> Ruffles: I am completely new to it... And have no idea where to start :S
[06:43] <mikejanssen> now the journey REALLY begins...
[06:43] <elpargo> join #trac
[06:44] <Ruffles> CyberSlug, then.. open a terminal and try sudo pppoeconf
[06:44] <frogzoo> !docs | mikejanssen
[06:44] <ubotu> mikejanssen: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:44] <Ruffles> any1 got a blunt? :D
[06:44] <CyberSlug> Ruffles: The modem is connected via USB, and requires the eciadsl userspace libraries
[06:44] <mikejanssen> i need to devote lots of time to this...been on windows for YEARS...now i wanna make a permanent switch
[06:45] <mikejanssen> need to do lots of studying to understand this like i do windows
[06:45] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:45] <Ruffles> CyberSlug, mmmm.. then u'd need the drivers.. i dunno how to get 'em workin' though sorry...
[06:45] <n2diy> mikejanssen: it is a worth while journey.
[06:45] <Ruffles> mikejanssen, u'll indeed have lots of fun learning new stuff
[06:45] <mikejanssen> urs
[06:45] <elpargo> mikejanssen: actually linux is sane so you don't need that much
[06:45] <mikejanssen> yeah
[06:45] <IntuitiveNipple> mikejanssen: Its not difficult once you realise that Firefox and Google look just the same :)
[06:46] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:46] <CyberSlug> Ruffles: No problem
[06:46] <Falstius> is there an easy way in xfce to copy stuff from the application menu to the panel?
[06:46] <Ruffles> when everyone turns black to you.. google baby!
[06:46] <Ruffles> everything even
[06:47] <mikejanssen> i remember being online pre-google
[06:47] <mikejanssen> that sucked
[06:47] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:47] <frogzoo> Ruffles: Results 1 - 10 of about 677,000,000 for baby
[06:47] <Ruffles> lol
[06:47] <Ruffles> jeeeeez... heaps of babies on google eh?
[06:47] <n2diy> Yesterday I set up gpg, and today, I tried to decrypt my first message, but I'm getting crc errors, I removed all the headers from he file, it was an email, but still no joy.
[06:49] <Ruffles> frogzoo, everything starts on childhood anyway...
[06:50] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy - the CRC errors are usually due to reformatting of the messages after it was signed (extra linefeed characters, etc)
[06:50] <co_17_sby> fff
[06:50] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: all I did was cut the messages headers from the email.
[06:51] <Ruffles> fo' shizzle my nizzle squeezle IntuitiveNipple's
[06:51] <n00b1> test
[06:51] <n00b1> could someone please address me by nick so i can see if this highlighting works?
[06:51] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: as long as you don't disturb the message between the start and end markers, it should work.
[06:51] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b1 :)
[06:51] <Ruffles> n00b1,
[06:51] <n00b1> no joy
[06:52] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: yep, I took care not to do that. I tried decrypting before cutting the headers, with the same result, as after I cut them.
[06:53] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: is this a message someone else has sent you that they signed/encrypted?
[06:53] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Was it Text or HTML ?
[06:54] <EBPlayer5263> I need help enlarging my display on Ubuntu.
[06:54] <n00b1> ok how now?
[06:54] <EBPlayer5263> I try to fix the xorg.conf file, but it doesn't work.
[06:54] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b1
[06:54] <n00b1> hmm, no joy
[06:54] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: no, I created my gpg keys, and I uploaded them to launch pad, this is their reply, which I must decrypt, and reply too. It is plain text email, but it does have an .eml exstension.
[06:54] <Ruffles> EBPlayer5263, try putting ur prefered option ahead of the others
[06:54] <n00b1> it's not my day
[06:55] <mneptok> EBPlayer5263: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:55] <juicyfish> I have some source for an application I'd like to install, however, I am clueless as how to compile source to be able to use it.
[06:55] <juicyfish> Anyone have any information on compiling source with Ubuntu?
[06:55] <IdleOne> juicyfish: what application
[06:55] <zapd0s> How do you fix sound for flash in the Firefox32 browser (on an amd64 system)?
[06:55] <mneptok> EBPlayer5263: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:55] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Oh I see. Hmmm, that is strange. I used that recently and it worked fine in Evolution
[06:55] <mneptok> dxonheax
[06:55] <n00b1> ok, mirc gets on my nerves, back to trillian
[06:55] <Ruffles> juicyfish, u'll need the package build-essential
[06:55] <juicyfish> IdleOne Just a vocoder application for audio.
[06:55] <mneptok> juicyfish: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Have tried doing "View Message Source" and copying that to Gedit and playing with it in non  word-wrap mode?
[06:56] <juicyfish> Installing package now.
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> n00b is back
[06:56] <newbieme> hello im compiling php 5.0, during my compilation i encountered this error "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables." whats the best way to do to resolve this issue? thanks inadvance
[06:56] <EBPlayer5263> I need help enlarging my display on Ubuntu.
[06:56] <juicyfish> Done.
[06:57] <mneptok> n00b: uhhh ... are you using tor?
[06:57] <juicyfish> What is the next step I need to take?
[06:57] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: hmm, no, I haven't, I give it  a shot, sounds like that will keep me busy for awhile. :)
[06:57] <n00b> mneptok: tor?
[06:57] <Ruffles> juicyfish, ./configure ?
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: let me look at the msg I got from launchpad and see
[06:57] <n2diy> I\I'll*
[06:57] <juicyfish> Ah. That was simple. :P
[06:57] <n00b> mneptok: tor. no
[06:58] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: roger, standing by.
[06:58] <mneptok> n00b: you were just here as "n00b1" yes?
[06:58] <n00b> mneptok: yeah, installed mirc tried it, didnt like it
[06:58] <juicyfish> Unfortunately there is no configure file.
[06:58] <juicyfish> It is still source.
[06:59] <mneptok> n00b: i'm wondering how you moved from Washigton to Minnesota in 20 seconds ;)
[06:59] <juicyfish> Is there some step to compile/build the code into a binary I can use? o.O
[06:59] <Ruffles> juicyfish, remember to always search the desired program on the repositories before compiling anything
[06:59] <n00b> mneptok: no idea, prolly some default crap from mirc
[06:59] <juicyfish> This is some little vocoder written for SuSE
[06:59] <n00b> mneptok: my ip should resolve to WA
[06:59] <juicyfish> Doubt Synaptic would have had it.
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: are the lines between the "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" and "---END ----" all the same length, except for the last 2?
[06:59] <Ruffles> juicyfish, apt-cache search what_you_want
[07:00] <juicyfish> It was tested successfully for Ubuntu, though. But I'll check.
[07:00] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: let me take a look, I should have had it opened. :/
[07:00] <juicyfish> Not found.
[07:01] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem - I have to reboot to be able to use my usb devices and connect to the internet, if you think you can/want to help please see http://pastebin.com/865502, scroll down towards the bottom
[07:01] <riotkittie> erm. my transparency in fluxbox disappeared :\
[07:01] <Ruffles> juicyfish, the common steps are ./configure, make, make install
[07:01] <riotkittie> juicyfish: do you have build-essential installed ?
[07:02] <juicyfish> Yes.
[07:02] <darkdrag0n> anyone know how to properly install the fglrx package so it works correctly?
[07:02] <jimbo> so how would I begin to link the domain I bought on godaddy to my ubuntu server?
[07:02] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, the open source driver works really cool.. are you having problems with it?
[07:02] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, in both the original email, and the what I saved as a file.
[07:03] <IntuitiveNipple> hmmm
[07:03] <darkdrag0n> which is the open source driver?
[07:03] <darkdrag0n> the ati driver?
[07:03] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, the one which comes along with ubuntu
[07:03] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, i use it here
[07:03] <Ruffles> and it works perfectly for me
[07:03] <darkdrag0n> it doesn't have the 3D does it?
[07:03] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, yes it dows
[07:03] <Ruffles> does*
[07:04] <darkdrag0n> what is the driver called?
[07:04] <juicyfish> riotkittie: Yes I do. The issue is just compiling the source now. Make gave me a silly amount of errors and warning. :(
[07:04] <someothernick> which card?
[07:04] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, mine is called radeon i guess
[07:04] <darkdrag0n> ATI Radeon Express 200 integrated
[07:04] <someothernick> ah same as me
[07:04] <jack|ass> so i've installed ubuntu on a machine and it's hanging right after it detects and enumerates USB... Doesn't hard-lock though, since i can plug in / unplug USB devices and see it list them.  It just never goes any further.  Anyone seen this before?
[07:04] <someothernick> i had to use fglrx driver
[07:04] <Ruffles> darkdrag0n, i suggest u to try the open source alternative before you move into the proprietary driver
[07:05] <darkdrag0n> i am using the open source, with no 3D and very poor framerate
[07:05] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: they are brand new keys, I suppose I could revoke them, and start over again? But I did upload them already.
[07:05] <someothernick> !ati
[07:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <darkdrag0n> i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that again..hehe
[07:06] <darkdrag0n> the open source drivers don't work with the Radeon Express 200?
[07:06] <someothernick> sort of
[07:06] <someothernick> my res was too low
[07:07] <darkdrag0n> on fresh install, i got a max of 800x600 and no 3D capabilities
[07:07] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: It doesn't make sense, CRC error is caused because the data between the BEGIN and END markers has been changed since the data between them was signed/encrypted, and that usually is caused by Linux <> Windows line-end conversion (LF to CR-LF, etc)
[07:07] <someothernick> yeah i had the same
[07:07] <someothernick> i would follow that guide for fglrx driver
[07:07] <darkdrag0n> ok i'll do that
[07:08] <darkdrag0n> hopefully in 7.04 they'll have them integrated as rumored
[07:08] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: well, I stopped playing with windows year ago, so unless launchpad is doing that, I don't think that is an issue?
[07:08] <jack|ass> ooo wait, i see what's happening.  it "loses" where my sata drive is...
[07:09] <RememberPOL> Do background process jobs generally stay running after a user has quit an SSH session?
[07:09] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: No indeed, but it seems that something has en-route.
[07:10] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Do you want to test it with me sending you an encrypted email? if so just tell me your key fingerprint
[07:10] <darkdrag0n> i'm also having a dns problem with proftpd, it's a known bug that i have the patch for....but i am not sure how to install the patch
[07:11] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: roger that, I suppose I could send myself an encrypted email, and see, if I can decrypt it? Or, if you want to play, I'll send you my fingerprint?
[07:11] <darkdrag0n> kiamo, did you get your dvd's working properly?
[07:11] <IntuitiveNipple> I'll play - I'm intrigued
[07:11] <kiamo> sorta yea
[07:11] <kiamo> still no menus
[07:11] <kiamo> but subtitles work in mplayer
[07:11] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: ok, where do you want it, here, or on pastebin?
[07:12] <darkdrag0n> well that's a start anyway
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> the fingerprint is short isn't it? here will do
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> or the Key ID ?
[07:12] <kiamo> theres really bad problems with my ati drivers
[07:12] <Aubade> Anyone know if there's a listing of what drivers are supported by the build of ALSA on Ubuntu's repos?
[07:12] <kiamo> but i dont know what to do, i think its atis bad driver support
[07:12] <darkdrag0n> that's a big part of it
[07:12] <darkdrag0n> what's your card, kiamo?
[07:13] <kiamo> radeon X1600
[07:13] <darkdrag0n> hmm
[07:13] <kupesoft> is the X1400 any good?
[07:13] <darkdrag0n> what driver is your xorg.conf using?
[07:13] <kiamo> fglrx
[07:14] <NeoGeo64> help my hdd is making clacking noises and i can hear it shut off the the system hangs and reboots
[07:14] <darkdrag0n> what is the output of fglrxinfo?
[07:14] <kiamo> the correct one
[07:14] <darkdrag0n> ATI?
[07:14] <kiamo> yea
[07:14] <kiamo> not
[07:14] <kiamo> not mesa
[07:15] <darkdrag0n> do you get a decent framerate with fgl_glxgears?
[07:15] <kiamo> over 500
[07:15] <darkdrag0n> hmm
[07:15] <darkdrag0n> sounds like your having my problem
[07:15] <darkdrag0n> hehe
[07:16] <darkdrag0n> the ATI drivers suck problem
[07:16] <NeoGeo64> help my hdd is making clacking noises and i can hear it shut off the the system hangs and reboots
[07:16] <NeoGeo64> can someone plz help
[07:16] <kiamo> haha
[07:16] <darkdrag0n> it's a pain
[07:16] <frogzoo> NeoGeo64: your disk is failing - backup up what you need NOW
[07:16] <kiamo> i get video playback of everything when i use mplayer with gl, but its a pain in the ass
[07:16] <kiamo> as totem automatically plays dvds and then X restarts..
[07:16] <kiamo> lol
[07:17] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Wow, something went weird here, but anyway, here is the fingerprint: pub   1024D/CA4F05F0 2007-01-21
[07:17] <n2diy>       Key fingerprint = 0E6F 454A BE6C 767D 7548  532B F76C 4B1C CA4F 05F0
[07:17] <NeoGeo64> when i try and write a file larger than 2mb the hdd clicks and clacks and shuts down
[07:17] <NeoGeo64> and crashes the system
[07:17] <darkdrag0n> messing with the ATI drivers is a constant pain for me
[07:17] <B_166-ER-X> help ! I cannot have internet on my Edgy partition, it was working before, just stopped after i reinstalled Windows (dual-boot) and reinstalled GRUB. i have the output of ifconfig -a and lspci here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2604/ , I'm out of ideas !
[07:17] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem - I have to reboot to be able to use my usb devices and connect to the internet, if you think you can/want to help please see http://www.pastebin.ca/325444, scroll down towards the bottom (start at line 146)
[07:17] <n2diy> ?
[07:17] <kiamo> are they uptodate?
[07:17] <darkdrag0n> yeah...every time i install them
[07:17] <kiamo> lol
[07:17] <kiamo> sounds like we are in the same boat
[07:18] <kiamo> whast wrong with ati!
[07:18] <darkdrag0n> alot of people are
[07:18] <darkdrag0n> they don't want to make the source available
[07:18] <kiamo> its stupid
[07:18] <mevets> anyone use wayV?
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> please
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> :/
[07:19] <kiamo> what kind of drawbacks do you have?
[07:19] <mevets> im getting a X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[07:19] <darkdrag0n> you mean on a successful install?
[07:19] <kiamo> yea
[07:19] <Aubade> Think it's more an issue of experience, Nvidia was long into it before ATi garnered the support. Neither have the source readily available, only binary releases.
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: bear with me; Seahorse has locked up twice now!
[07:20] <jmworx> crimsun: any news on speex in dapper amd64
[07:20] <darkdrag0n> heh...the framerate is poor, it hangs when it feels like it, games run choppy, videos laugh at me
[07:20] <darkdrag0n> you name it, i've seen it
[07:20] <darkdrag0n> X hangs when i try to restart....
[07:20] <kiamo> :(
[07:20] <kiamo> harsh......
[07:20] <mikejanssen> when i type in 'glxgears' in the terminal..i dont see my fps
[07:20] <Aubade> You sure direct-rendering is even in workin' order?
[07:20] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Roger that, I DLed that this afternoon, and haven't made any sense of it yet.
[07:20] <mikejanssen> how do i get those to show up
[07:20] <kiamo> what games are available for linux?
[07:20] <kiamo> (games worth playing ;)
[07:21] <boxubi> lo all
[07:21] <darkdrag0n> hmm
[07:21] <CreativeEmbassy> tux racer
[07:21] <cafuego_> kiamo: define "worth playing"
[07:21] <CreativeEmbassy> :-)
[07:21] <DARKGuy> kiamo: WoW :P
[07:21] <Aubade> kiamo: Not all too much. lol
[07:21] <darkdrag0n> i just try random games out
[07:21] <boxubi> i just installed the ATI drivers and when I rebooted my monitor said the frequency was out of range.
[07:21] <sciboy> Could someone help me get Pencil to compile?
[07:21] <Aubade> DARKGuy: Only through an emulation layer. :P
[07:21] <kiamo> haha
[07:21] <B_166-ER-X> help ! I cannot have internet on my Edgy partition, it was working before, just stopped after i reinstalled Windows (dual-boot) and reinstalled GRUB. i have the output of ifconfig -a and lspci here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2604/ , I'm out of ideas ! please
[07:21] <DARKGuy> Aubade: Well, it's worth playing :P
[07:22] <Aubade> I have no real experience w/ ATi cards, not since the original Wonder, but you might be better off using a beta driver than what's available on Ubuntu's repos.
[07:22] <darkdrag0n> actually...the games available for linux are alot better than the games bundled with windows
[07:22] <frogzoo> boxubi: you might need to set HorizSyn & VertRefresh in xorg.conf
[07:22] <DARKGuy> kiamo: Eh, what can I say... Wolfestein Enemy Territory, Quake 4, Quake 3, Nexuiz, Alien Arena, Open Arena, Tremulous...
[07:22] <darkdrag0n> and there are alot more of them
[07:22] <frogzoo> boxubi: you might need to set HorizSync & VertRefresh in xorg.conf
[07:22] <Aubade> Tremulous is ace, just ace.
[07:22] <kiamo> cool cool
[07:22] <boxubi> frogzoo: any way to boot into a safe mode?
[07:22] <Aubade> Warsow is nice, though I imagine its fanbase is anything but polite. lol
[07:22] <kiamo> most games i dont find satisfying at all, im a very picky gamer ;)
[07:22] <frogzoo> boxubi: hit ctrl alt f1 - should get you a terminal
[07:22] <DARKGuy> kiamo: also, http://liflg.org has very, very nice games (both using wine and native installers), including UT & UT2004 (which runs niiiice)
[07:22] <boxubi> ok, cool
[07:23] <svfusion> how do I make a FTP account to access /var/www using vsftpd
[07:23] <Aubade> boxubi: In Ubuntu? There's an option for 'recovery mode' at boot in GRUB.
[07:23] <cafuego_> kiamo: nethack rules
[07:23] <cafuego_> svfusion: Edit the vsftpd config file to allow non-anonymous logins.
[07:23] <kiamo> sounds cool :)
[07:23] <Aubade> kiamo: Next thing, you're going to list every Rogue-like game out there. :P
[07:23] <svfusion> i did that
[07:23] <cryosphere> B_166: you may have already tried this, but sudo ifdown eth2, then sudo ifup eth2
[07:23] <darkdrag0n> my favorite game...is Linux
[07:24] <kiamo> rogue like?
[07:24] <darkdrag0n> more fun than any other game i've played so far
[07:24] <svfusion> then what do I do
[07:24] <Aubade> Speaking of games, how long till Quake Wars sees the day of light?
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: Trying to search the ubuntu keyserver locks up Seahorse, grrr
[07:24] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: Did my key break your Seahorse!? =:)
[07:24] <cafuego_> svfusion: restart vsftpd
[07:24] <svfusion> did
[07:24] <B_166-ER-X> cryosphere what does it do ? (i'm not on linxu now, i have to reboot to try )
[07:24] <boxubi> is there any way in ubuntu to check if I'm running in DMA mode or PIO?
[07:24] <oFF-beAt> DARKGuy, i can install ut2004 n original UT with wine?
[07:24] <Aubade> kiamo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_%28computer_game%29 // Quote a few clones out there.
[07:24] <DARKGuy> oFF-beAt: both with WINE and native installers
[07:24] <Aubade> oFF-beAt: There is a native client for both.
[07:24] <darkdrag0n> hdparm -hH
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> I had problems with publishing to Ubuntu originally too - had to publish to one of the other servers and let it trickle over
[07:25] <svfusion> then what do I do
[07:25] <darkdrag0n> no..that checks it...
[07:25] <DARKGuy> oFF-beAt: I'd recommend using WINE for UT original though. For UT2004 you'd better go with the native installer
[07:25] <Aubade> Quite* // Weeee!
[07:25] <oFF-beAt> DARKGuy, i have windows version of both
[07:25] <boxubi> darkdrag0n: was that directed at me?
[07:25] <oFF-beAt> DARKGuy, u mean wine.. not cedega right?
[07:25] <darkdrag0n> hdparm -i
[07:25] <DARKGuy> oFF-beAt: that's okay. The UT2004 DVD has a native linux installer anyways
[07:25] <darkdrag0n> yes boxubi
[07:25] <DARKGuy> oFF-beAt: Yes, plain WINE
[07:25] <cryosphere> B_166: it breaks (ifdown)your connection to eth2,, .  and then restarts(ifup) it , ,
[07:26] <Aubade> As does the CD version.
[07:26] <darkdrag0n> hdparm --help for more commands
[07:26] <DARKGuy> Aubade: hehe, never had it :P
[07:26] <darkdrag0n> be careful with hdparm though
[07:26] <Aubade> Should be on the first disc, labeled 'linux-installer.sh'.
[07:26] <kiamo> can i install wine of the apt-get thing?
[07:26] <Daverocks> they'll make ut2007 for linux, right?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:26] <kiamo> im sure they will dave
[07:26] <Daverocks> :D
[07:26] <DARKGuy> kiamo: yes, check the site http://www.winehq.org . Follow the ubuntu/debian instructions on the download page. Then just apt-get install wine, or just use synaptic.
[07:27] <Aubade> I got stuck with it because the stores were sold out of the DVD version, a week later GoGamer had the DVD import on sale for $35 and I banged my head to the desk.
[07:27] <oFF-beAt> now linux comminity has grown bigger :P we'll see more games for linux
[07:27] <kiamo> thanks DARKGuy
[07:27] <DARKGuy> Aubade: Aw, poor you :(
[07:27] <DARKGuy> kiamo: Welcome ^^
[07:27] <B_166-ER-X> cryosphere thats something weird, i remember my eth being eth1 before my problems.. not its eth2
[07:27] <Aubade> One would hope, sure are a lot of studios making effort to make native clients.
[07:27] <DARKGuy> oFF-beAt: hopefully :D
[07:27] <B_166-ER-X> but i dont know here to change that
[07:27] <Aubade> Alky project could change a lot, or whatever it's now going by.
[07:28] <DARKGuy> Linux needs good online games though. Good ones, like Silkroad, Lineage, Diablo II, WoW, etc. :(
[07:28] <darkdrag0n> ok...i've gathered enough courage to mess with the ati drivers now...brb
[07:28] <Aubade> Progress is really kickin', everyone thought they had fallen off the map. Got the Prey demo up and running at native (or near-native) speeds.
[07:28] <Daverocks> runescape runs natively on linux ;)
[07:28] <Daverocks> but that's runescape :(
[07:28] <DARKGuy> Runescape runs even on a cellphone 
[07:28] <Daverocks> and technically it's native java
[07:28] <Daverocks> yeah lol
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> how can i set ubuntu to try Eth1 instead of eth2 ?
[07:28] <DARKGuy> it's like Tibia
[07:28] <Aubade> My eyes are going back 'n' forth between 'good' and 'Lineage'.
[07:28] <Dasnipa> java is so ugly
[07:29] <Aubade> My brain, so confused.
[07:29] <n2diy> B_166-ER-X: get into  a terminal, and run ifconfig, does that show eth0 or eth1?
[07:29] <Aubade> Only native MMOs that come to mind are Regnum, Eternal Lands, Planeshift, Dofus (flash)...
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy:  Sorry, I can't get to the ubuntu key-server.
[07:29] <Aubade> SecondLife has a native client now, in beta but damn stable.
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> n2diy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2604/
[07:30] <DARKGuy> Not free though :(
[07:30] <Aubade> Less of a MMO and more of an interactive what-if Myspace met 4chan.
[07:30] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: np, thanks for trying.  Have what might be in an interesting problem going with B_166-ER-X.
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> he :/
[07:31] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem - I have to reboot to be able to use my usb devices and connect to the internet, if you think you can/want to help please see http://www.pastebin.ca/325444, scroll down towards the bottom (start at line 146)
[07:31] <Aubade> Guess I'm going to have to cross my fingers that this new sound card will work with the build of ALSA shipped with Edgy.
[07:31] <kiamo> ffs, im getting really pissed of with x64
[07:31] <kiamo> i cant install so much lol
[07:31] <Aubade> Was a bug report and supposed patch way back when but no mention since. :\
[07:31] <kiamo> no flash, no skype, no wine...
[07:31] <DARKGuy> kiamo: build from source?
[07:32] <darkdrag0n> the x64 irritated me too
[07:32] <kiamo> ah good idea
[07:32] <kiamo> lol darkdrag0n
[07:32] <kiamo> we def in the same boat
[07:32] <Aubade> Wouldn't bother with it, still a young architecture when compared to PPC, x86, or SPARC.
[07:32] <darkdrag0n> you have the same pc as me, don't you?
[07:32] <kiamo> amd dual core x64 4600+?
[07:33] <kiamo> radeon x16
[07:33] <kiamo> 1600
[07:33] <darkdrag0n> ok...now you're just bragging
[07:33] <n2diy> B_166-ER-X: what happens if you type ifdown eth2, and then try to bring up the old ethX card?
[07:33] <kiamo> :p no i was comparing ;)
[07:33] <Aubade> Waiting for my new machine to arrive, going to be fun assembling her.
[07:34] <darkdrag0n> i'm running a Sempron 3200+
[07:34] <darkdrag0n> hehe
[07:34] <Aubade> Pentium 2.4c here.
[07:34] <kiamo> hehe nice DARKGuy
[07:34] <mikejanssen> how i move files into protected folders?
[07:34] <kiamo> thats not bad darkdrag0n
[07:34] <DARKGuy> kiamo: it still works XD
[07:34] <DARKGuy> mikejanssen: use sudo?
[07:34] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: interesting you can't get to the key server, it took me four times to upload my key yesterday, maybe it was munged?
[07:34] <Aubade> Been living with it for six years now, oh lord.
[07:34] <mikejanssen> mm
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> n2diy, i have to reboot to try ;)
[07:34] <mikejanssen> k
[07:34] <kiamo> im not dissing
[07:34] <darkdrag0n> it works
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> i'll be back
[07:34] <n2diy> B_1
[07:34] <darkdrag0n> most of the time
[07:34] <cryosphere> this sucks
[07:34] <n2diy> B_1
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> ?
[07:35] <kiamo> so darkdrag0n are you running x64?
[07:35] <darkdrag0n> the board is a socket 939, i'll get my dual core processor one day
[07:35] <n2diy> B_166-ER-X: no you don't!
[07:35] <Aubade> E6300, 7900GS, 2x512M CAS3 DDR2-667, Centurion 5, a bag of peanuts.
[07:35] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem - I have to reboot to be able to use my usb devices and connect to the internet, if you think you can/want to help please see http://www.pastebin.ca/325444, scroll down towards the bottom (start at line 146)
[07:35] <n2diy> B_166-ER-X: no you don't!
[07:35] <Aubade> Just ordered it a little over two hours ago, now worried the sound card might not work out of the box. XD
[07:35] <B_166-ER-X> n2diy, i'm in windows now, on the same machine, dual-boot Windowsxp/edgy
[07:35] <Aubade> Ah well, installing ALSA drivers manually beats putting up with a Creative Labs card.
[07:35] <n2diy> B_166-ER-X: ah, ok.
[07:35] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: Can you PasteBin your /var/log/dmesg from Windows?
[07:35] <B_166-ER-X> yeap
[07:36] <B_166-ER-X> intuitiveNipple 2 sec
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> brb... cup of tea long overdue and its 6.30am!
[07:36] <kiamo> does anyone know how to build a 32 bit enviroment with prevu?
[07:37] <darkdrag0n> hmm...
[07:37] <B_166-ER-X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2605/ IntuitiveNipple
[07:37] <darkdrag0n> i read somewhere that you could install the 32 bit wine via a chroot, kiamo
[07:37] <Aubade> If by 'prevu' you mean Lego blocks, and '32-bit environment' you meant a killer Lego robot that eats other Lego blocks... yes.
[07:37] <darkdrag0n> not really sure what that means....but...
[07:37] <kiamo> yea
[07:38] <kiamo> if i can build a 32bit enviroment i can install 32bit firefox and finally have flash again, and 32 bit skype, and it continues...
[07:38] <kiamo> problem is debootstrap wasnt working for me and then i heard about prevu and im struggling too
[07:39] <darkdrag0n> i fixed my problem with x64....went with the 32 bit install
[07:39] <Aubade> Yeah, can't see it being worth the trouble. It's not as thought there are any real advantages as of yet.
[07:39] <OMERSIAR> hi folk
[07:39] <Aubade> y halo thar, OMERSIAR.
[07:39] <kiamo> hahahaha darkdrag0n
[07:39] <kiamo> notice it being slower?
[07:39] <OMERSIAR> i want to install a mp3 player
[07:40] <OMERSIAR> on ubuntu 64 bit
[07:40] <aalhamad> hi all .. how can i hide or change my ip adress..?
[07:40] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple there are some lines about eth0 and eth2 , but i'm not sure to get anything
[07:40] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X:  looking now
[07:40] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:40] <yellow> aalhamad, why you want to do that?
[07:40] <Aubade> OMERSIAR: Any one in particular?
[07:40] <kiamo> lol Aubade
[07:40] <aalhamad> yellow.. to surf in the internet..
[07:40] <cryosphere> yellow: aahamad wants to hack
[07:41] <tommason> I have a very n00b question.. How would I remove apache and php?
[07:41] <Asc> I tried to stop a process using 'pkill -STOP [pid] '.  Its' window froze, so I killed it from the desktop.  The window disappeared, but the process is still running.  Kill and sudo kill have no affect.  How can I stop it?
[07:41] <Aubade> Someone's going to come in here and ask about k-virtualization on SPARC any second now. :(
[07:41] <cryosphere> aahamad; get a shell account
[07:41] <OMERSIAR> Aubade: no
[07:41] <aalhamad> shell account?
[07:41] <aalhamad> what it that?
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: PasteBin your /etc/network/interfaces for me too?
[07:41] <darkdrag0n> how do you use k-virtualization on SPARC?
[07:41] <cryosphere> google it
[07:41] <Aubade> Well, find one of interest. :P
[07:41] <aalhamad> ok
[07:41] <kiamo> lol
[07:41] <riotkittie> hey. can someone tell me about k-virtualization on SPARC?
[07:41] <riotkittie> oh. im slow.
[07:41] <darkdrag0n> lol
[07:42] <OMERSIAR> but
[07:42] <yellow> haha cryosphere
[07:42] <riotkittie> which is what i get for not paying attention
[07:42] <yellow> ;)
[07:42] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: I haven't seen a pastebin either.
[07:42] <hugo_> how can I make user accounts with an uid below 1000 also show up in the gnome user-admin gui? all accounts above uid 499.
[07:42] <OMERSIAR> why ubuntu doesnt play mp3
[07:42] <OMERSIAR> ?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | OMERSIAR
[07:42] <ubotu> OMERSIAR: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <verve> why OMERSIAR not read manuals?
[07:42] <Aubade> What the bot just said. ^
[07:42] <darkdrag0n> i'm only partially paying attention....still working up the courage to install the ati drivers...hehe
[07:42] <darkdrag0n> that, and i'm amazed at my download speed
[07:42] <someothernick> !mp3
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: That eth2 in dmesg looks strange
[07:42] <OMERSIAR> i know
[07:42] <DARKGuy> Well people, I'm off to sleep, have a good night everyone!
[07:42] <Asc> tommason: I recommend using synaptic.  Search for 'apache', mark for removal, repeat with php.
[07:42] <OMERSIAR> this issue
[07:42] <Aubade> darkdrag0n: Worst case scenario is you'll need to edit xorg.conf to fallback on vesa.
[07:42] <Daverocks> Asc: try "kill [pid] " or failing that, "kill -9 [pid] "
[07:43] <B_166-ER-X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2606/ IntuitiveNipple
[07:43] <kiamo> wise guy DARKGuy its 6.43am here and i got uni at 9am...
[07:43] <Aubade> Daverocks: You have no idea how long I've been wondering how to send signals like that. lol
[07:43] <darkdrag0n> worst case scenario is, the computer blows up
[07:43] <Asc> Daverocks: The second one did the trick.  Thanks.
[07:43] <Rynoo> anyone else have problems installing nvidia drivers?
[07:43] <cryosphere> so has anyone tried to figure out why I have all these problems?
[07:43] <Daverocks> Asc: cool. btw, -KILL is the same as -9
[07:43] <Aubade> Worst case scenario is that a woman is elected as president. (oh lord, I had to eventually)
[07:43] <cryosphere> http://www.pastebin.ca/325444
[07:43] <Daverocks> Aubade: wah?
[07:43] <Asc> 0_o
[07:44] <Aubade> I need to fit in a sexist remark sometime, this hour.
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: You've got two network cards? an RealTek RTL8139 and an 8139cp ?
[07:44] <Asc> than what does 'kill' do if it doesn't send -KILL? :p
[07:44] <n2diy> Rynoo: it seems everyone running Edgy does, that is why I'm still running Dapper.
[07:44] <Aubade> Daverocks: The '-9' is SIGKILL, no?
[07:44] <Daverocks> Asc: it sends -TERM
[07:44] <Daverocks> Aubade: correct
[07:44] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple nope, only the onboard one.
[07:44] <darkdrag0n> a woman wouldn't be elected president just because i installed ATI drivers
[07:44] <Asc> Oh.  Okay.
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> You've got two now... they must have bred!
[07:44] <Aubade> I've always wondered how to specify sigs, always used htop to send 'em to processes.
[07:44] <B_166-ER-X> hehe
[07:44] <darkdrag0n> but i tell you, i'd be a proud man if i could change the world by messing with my computer
[07:44] <B_166-ER-X> baby networks.
[07:44] <Asc> So what's the difference between TERM and KILL? :\
[07:45] <B_166-ER-X> but..how the f? :)
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: oh nevermind, I misread a bit of the file lol
[07:45] <oFF-beAt> which is better..?? edgy or dapper?
[07:45] <Asc> well, I guess TERM seems to be a little less gentle
[07:45] <hyphenated> Asc: a TERM actually reaches the app
[07:45] <cryosphere> aubade: woman in power must have big hram like a can of pepsi
[07:45] <Rynoo> n2diy: that sucks
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm 7 hours past my bedtime... got goggle-eyes
[07:45] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: B_166-ER-X, that is part of the problem then, the 8139 is an add in card.
[07:45] <Daverocks> Asc: TERM says, please stop. KILL says, ok, we're not going to execute any of this process's code on the CPU
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: No, just me seeing double lol
[07:45] <darkdrag0n> depends on which type of headache you want, oFF-beAt
[07:45] <hyphenated> Asc: a KILL doesn't reach the app, it just tears it down in kernel-space
[07:45] <Aubade> cryosphere: I don't follow but I spite you for mentioning Pepsi over Coca-Cola.
[07:45] <Daverocks> Aubade: heh, i use kill to send signals to progs all the time. like i use it to send USR1 and stuff to processes
[07:46] <Asc> hah, interesting.  And useful.
[07:46] <oFF-beAt> darkdrag0n, i want a lil headache ! :D
[07:46] <B_166-ER-X> its just 1:45 am here, but still :)
[07:46] <Aubade> Not that I drink either, but had I...
[07:46] <darkdrag0n> i personally like edgy....but i like dapper too.....
[07:46] <tommason> When I look in  add/remove programs I cannot find apache(httpd) or php
[07:46] <aalhamad> what is the most recommend site for shell acount?
[07:46] <Aubade> Think I live near one of the last Coca-Cola plants that still produces Surge.
[07:46] <darkdrag0n> so you can't go by what i say
[07:46] <B_166-ER-X> i want the net back before i sleep.
[07:46] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: ? the realtech 8139, is not an onboard device, at least the ones I encounterd weren't.
[07:46] <yellow> beeerrrrrrrrrr
[07:46] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X:  I suspect the problem is the extra "ethX" entries in /etc/network/interfaces. I recommend you back-up the existing file and then remove entries for eth2 and eth2
[07:46] <cryosphere> B_166: did that work
[07:47] <darkdrag0n> that, and the fact that for most practical purposes...i'm new to this
[07:47] <kiamo> you come over from windows darkdrag0n ?
[07:47] <Aubade> darkdrag0n: There isn't a huge difference between 'em, really.
[07:47] <darkdrag0n> dual boot system
[07:47] <LoginError> hey guys, silly question, does the "run application" dialog have a command line command to trigger it?
[07:47] <darkdrag0n> XP and Ubuntu
[07:47] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple you mean, editing the file 'interfaces' by removing line 10 and 11 ?
[07:47] <darkdrag0n> i prefer Ubuntu
[07:47] <IntuitiveNipple> lol my typing!!!!
[07:48] <Aubade> I might revert back to Dapper, MPD constantly collapses on its own in Edgy.
[07:48] <kiamo> yea, me too
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> I meant to type, remove the TWO entries for eth1 and eth2
[07:48] <kiamo> except.
[07:48] <Aubade> No error output in either of its two logs.
[07:48] <tommason> so does anyone know how I would remove apache and php?
[07:48] <Rynoo> how do I install the nvidia-glx package from the Restricted repository
[07:48] <Daverocks> LoginError: you can press alt-F2 from anywhere in gnome, but whether it's a separate binary being run that you can specify on the command line, i don't know
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> the entire "eth1" and "eth2" blocks
[07:48] <kiamo> i think im gonna install 32bit vista, for 3d studio max and photoshop and playing VIDEOS!
[07:48] <cryosphere> ok here an issue someone might actually be able to help me with: I have trouble rebooting
[07:48] <kiamo> haha
[07:48] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> so remove "auto ethX" and the following line "iface..."
[07:48] <kiamo> lol cryosphere, push the button on the front of your case ;)
[07:48] <darkdrag0n> kiamo, if you ever get mad at Ubuntu.....try installing gentoo
[07:49] <kiamo> nah
[07:49] <Daverocks> gentoo is cool.
[07:49] <mevets> im having trouble with WayV
[07:49] <mevets> its giving me a X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[07:49] <Aubade> Gentoo? Try for Linux from Scratch.
[07:49] <mevets> there a way to fix it?
[07:49] <Daverocks> Aubade: exactly ;)
[07:49] <kiamo> a few years ago i played with slackware
[07:49] <IntuitiveNipple> You'll be left with lo, eth0, ath0, wlan0
[07:49] <Daverocks> you'll yell at gentoo for sure
[07:49] <LoginError> Daverocks, thanks that's all i wanted to know, i just needed to find a way to trigger it when im not running beryl (cus java hates beryl)
[07:49] <kiamo> but im still a noob
[07:49] <darkdrag0n> gentoo basically was linux from scratch for me...lol
[07:49] <cryosphere> what I mean is , when I reboot it stalls on the screen with the tri-sunwheel or whatever that is
[07:49] <kiamo> never really get used to it...
[07:49] <Daverocks> LoginError: kk
[07:49] <darkdrag0n> and the compile times are slower than christmas
[07:49] <kiamo> but when i installed vista x64 i was so scared
[07:49] <cryosphere> and then I have to physically turn off the machine
[07:49] <kiamo> and i ran all the way back to linux :D
[07:49] <Aubade> You haven't seen the depths of human desperation and melancholy till you've met a man whose gone with LFS.
[07:50] <cryosphere> and turn it back on
[07:50] <oFF-beAt> linux from scratch?? like by the time i finish installing it there would b a new distro out?
[07:50] <oFF-beAt> i mean new version
[07:50] <yellow> oh crap
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:50] <Daverocks> oFF-beAt: yes, but a new distro too ;)
[07:50] <darkdrag0n> Vista is the worst operating system to drop since Win 98
[07:50] <yellow> the keyboard's conspirating on me
[07:50] <yellow> !_!
[07:50] <tommason> so i guess no one knows how to remove apache or php?
[07:50] <Aubade> darkdrag0n: See: Windows ME.
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> darkdrag0n: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for Vista talk
[07:50] <Daverocks> darkdrag0n: nah, winME was worse than w98
[07:50] <Asc> tommason: I recommend using synaptic.  Search for 'apache', mark for removal, repeat with php.
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> will try that 'ill be back
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> thanks
[07:50] <Asc> and then click 'apply'
[07:50] <darkdrag0n> heh....ME was just a runoff of 98
[07:51] <Aubade> Runoff a cliff, maybe.
[07:51] <Daverocks> pretty much
[07:51] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: wait a moment... I think there's more to it yet
[07:51] <mazzini> hi all, i work in a public school and would to set up a lab with edubuntu... the boxes are networked but there is no connection to internet so i carried a pc to home and i'm using apt-mirror to make a local mirror of edubuntu... i wonder how to make the local mirror available to the other pcs...i guess i have to put /var/spool/apt-mirror/* in a local apache root and made it available or there is a better way?
[07:51] <Daverocks> ME is like the carcass left behind after 98 ran off a cliff
[07:51] <tarelerulz> Have any of you  Gotten webcams or voice on yahoo to work with gaim?
[07:51] <B_166-ER-X> ok..
[07:51] <kiamo> all this talk of windows is simply reminding me of bill gates first presentation of windows 95
[07:51] <cryosphere> man, do people actually solve issues in this chatroom or just hangout, I dont care either way, Im just wondering
[07:51] <darkdrag0n> dropped from a plane at 30,000 feet would be more accurate
[07:51] <kiamo> BSOD XD
[07:51] <B_166-ER-X> ( i always wait a few secs before rebooting , there is always something more)
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | Windows chatter
[07:51] <ubotu> Windows chatter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:52] <Daverocks> kiamo: "you just plug it in, and it says Hey i see you got a new device... you'll notice that this scanner build, WHOA"
[07:52] <Daverocks> kiamo: that was windows 98 though :P
[07:52] <mikejanssen> where to find a driver for a dwl-650 wifi card?
[07:52] <n2diy> mazzini: are you using Edubuntu?
[07:52] <mikejanssen> friend is installing ubuntu
[07:52] <mikejanssen> but doesnt have drivers
[07:52] <darkdrag0n> well i didn't mean to start a discussion on MS products
[07:52] <mazzini> n2diy: yes
[07:52] <mikejanssen> says should work oob...but its not..
[07:52] <darkdrag0n> if it's any consolation...i hate MS
[07:52] <MystaMax> hello, how do I get vi editor to state "INSERT" and other commands at the bottom of the screen?
[07:52] <Aubade> First man plays POD (not old enough? Hover works!) and gets a BSOD with Windows 98 SE and calls it the most stable environment ever produced. The second sees a kernel panic in System 9 and calls it the most stable environment ever produced.
[07:53] <Daverocks> MystaMax: press "i" or the insert key
[07:53] <hotti> mystamax: there might be vimtutor which helps
[07:53] <kiamo> yea me too darkdrag0n  but i do love my radeon 1600+ working properly
[07:53] <MystaMax> Daverocks, I'm aware of the key, but it doesnt say INSERT like it does on my other computer
[07:53] <darkdrag0n> Fiesty Fawn is rumored to have the proprietary ATI and NVidia drivers built in
[07:53] <Aubade> The moral of the story is everything is inferior to BeOS, or something... don't judge a book by its cover? That's not it. The hell am I going with this?
[07:53] <MystaMax> hotti, I'm not sure I know what you mean
[07:53] <n2diy> mazzini: ok, so you know there is a channel for that #edubuntu? Not many people there though. I'm getting ready to play with Edubuntu, but haven't had the chance so far.
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> darkdrag0n: Still being debated - you could follow up in #ubuntu+1 for Feisty stuff
[07:54] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple ? any new leads ?
[07:54] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: I'm going to pastebin you a new "interfaces" file with the MAC address of your NIC locked to eth0
[07:54] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:54] <darkdrag0n> that was where the "rumored" comment came in
[07:54] <darkdrag0n> where do i post my vote?
[07:54] <darkdrag0n> hehe
[07:54] <hotti> mystamax: in terminal type vimtutor - its kind of tutorial program
[07:54] <mazzini> n2diy: thnx for the info... i switch there... thnx
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> darkdrag0n: There's a thread on the forums, but ultimately it's going to be a technical decision, not a democratic one.
[07:55] <MystaMax> hotti, i may have to install it
[07:55] <Daverocks> MystaMax: that's strange
[07:55] <darkdrag0n> yeah...such is life
[07:55] <tarelerulz> I just want to know if gaim really can do web cams and voice on yahoo from someone that has used it
[07:55] <n2diy> mazzini: nada.
[07:55] <darkdrag0n> last time i used GAIM, the file send and etc..etc didn't work yet
[07:55] <Aubade> Speaking of, anyone know of a Jabber client that actually has voice support?
[07:55] <MystaMax> Daverocks, yea, I'm not sure why its not there. Could it be b/c I'm using putty from a win client?
[07:55] <darkdrag0n> but i'm not an expert
[07:56] <Daverocks> MystaMax: that's the most likely reason
[07:57] <MystaMax> ok, Thanks for the input Daverocks
[07:58] <Aubade> >> Pros: -Worked instantly with Kubuntu 6.10 -Great sound, Good packaging, Everything as promised.
[07:58] <Aubade> Oh, that is the finest piece of English I've ever seen off NewEgg.
[07:58] <hugo_> what is the dip group for?
[07:58] <hugo_> and what is the video group for?
[07:59] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: Here you go... double-checked http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2607/
[07:59] <tarelerulz> Ubuntu is great. Other then it not cofig my screen right. I could not get high res untel I changed it myself
[07:59] <Drkblue> who is serving in here?
[07:59] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:59] <ius> tes
[07:59] <Aubade> tarelerulz: Hopefully there'll be a graphical means in adding resolutions with Feisty.
[08:00] <hotti> mystamax: the vimtutor is included in vim-runtime package
[08:00] <tarelerulz> I mean I liked doing it myself . That is why I liked linux I feel like I am really doing somehhing
[08:01] <MystaMax> hotti, found it, thanks.
[08:01] <Aubade> The love of editing RC files and messing with system-wide configs is a great fetish to have.
[08:01] <n2diy> tarelerulz: and you are right, there is no other box like yours, anywhere in the world!
[08:01] <tommason> Asc: thanks that got it
[08:02] <Aubade> n2diy: Granted there isn't a real mirror world with evil alterations of us all.
[08:02] <Asc> aommason: cheers
[08:02] <Aubade> Evil versions of us all with goatees and robes...
[08:02] <ius> #join #bandung
[08:02] <ius> wups
[08:02] <funkdollar> hello folks
[08:03] <IntuitiveNipple> goatees? eeeek, itchy!
[08:03] <tarelerulz> that is funny aubade . I love messing with the config files mysefl . That is why I got into linux learning and freedome
[08:03] <isarc> can kdeveloper be added in ubuntu
[08:03] <Aubade> You have no idea how long it took me to get the hang of things, migrating from BeOS to Linux.
[08:04] <Aubade> isarc: Same IDE as KDevelop?
[08:04] <funkdollar> this is not ubuntu related: is there any way to optimally cluster data for backup in cd or dvd ? I mean in order to maximize the amount of data stored in each medium
[08:04] <isarc> yes
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple 'i'll be back'
[08:04] <NeoGeo64> help me plz... there is smoke coming out of my box and i can smell electricity burning
[08:04] <IntuitiveNipple> lol OK, famous last words
[08:04] <NeoGeo64> it smells like hot electric metal burning
[08:04] <funkdollar> Aubade, how did you find BeOS?
[08:04] <NeoGeo64> if you can imagine that smell
[08:05] <IntuitiveNipple> NeoGeo64: Turn it off then!
[08:05] <hugo_> what is the video group meant for?
[08:05] <Aubade> funkdollar: I grew up on a Mac IIe and a BeBox.
[08:05] <tarelerulz> Aubade I started with Gentoox  on my xbox and then put it on my computer and have not look back .  I had know idea about command line or anything to do with linux other then the name
[08:05] <Asc> IIe?  I thinkwe had one of those
[08:05] <Aubade> Oh man, my BeBox should be in a museum.
[08:05] <funkdollar> I 've been a linux user for 6 years - it has really come a very long way
[08:06] <Aubade> There were only 800 of the dual 133 BeBox models.
[08:06] <MasseR> Has anyone of you used badram?
[08:06] <Aubade> Only been one myself for two or so.
[08:06] <funkdollar> Aubade, i am really interested in the BeOS experience - was there emphasis in command line too ? I am thinking of trying Haiku in a vmware session
[08:06] <Daverocks> MasseR: yes
[08:07] <Aubade> funkdollar: It's a toss-up, like Linux. You can get by for the most part w/o using a command shell.
[08:07] <Aubade> I've so lost track of Haiku and Zeta, the former was developing so quickly.
[08:07] <MasseR> Daverocks: Did you get unknown interrupt or fault at EIP <something>
[08:07] <MasseR> During bootup
[08:08] <funkdollar> Aubade, but in the end for something hard you have to revert to cmd don't you ?
[08:08] <Daverocks> MasseR: not during bootup, but it did kernel panic at random times when it was running
[08:08] <funkdollar> Aubade, i am not afraid of commandlines, i write scripts myself - i am just curious
[08:08] <Aubade> I never had to, but thing again I did have a BeBox and all of the hardware was hand-picked for compatibility sake.
[08:08] <darkdrag0n> what is ISSE support?
[08:09] <Ina> hello, im trying to install a java aplication, and a export command doesnt work?
[08:09] <roflworthy> Hello people.
[08:09] <Aubade> Back then, I never bothered with shells much, not until I jumped ship from MacOS to Linux.
[08:09] <Daverocks> MasseR: if the EIP gets corrupted it's almost certainly because of bad ram
[08:09] <MasseR> Daverocks: I can get it to boot randomly
[08:09] <sleepy723> how do I uninstall a program I compiled, I want everything of it gone, anyone know the command?
[08:09] <Rynoo> ead: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-10.1_i386.deb: files list file for package `bogofilter' is missing final newline
[08:09] <funkdollar> Aubade, i personally think that BeOS had the most amazing realtime capabilities after qnx - after things i have seen
[08:09] <Rynoo> how can I fix that so I can install nvidia-glx?
[08:10] <Aubade> No doubt, especially when concerning media playback.
[08:10] <MasseR> Daverocks: And yes I have bad ram that's why I have badram :P
[08:10] <NeoGeo64> Man, I've been huffing diesel fuel all night.  I'm so lightheaded.
[08:10] <funkdollar> Aubade, and the fact that they had a _standard_ set of gui widgets was great
[08:10] <OMERSIAR> !ogg
[08:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:10] <Aubade> Don't mention 'standards' in a Linux IRC channel. :E
[08:10] <darkdrag0n> i don't know if it's the same problem i had, Rynoo, but with ATI i had to change the /bin/sh to /bin/bash
[08:11] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: your back, I guess you put the fire out?
[08:11] <Rynoo> darkdrag0n: I dont have an ATI card, its a GeForce 5200 GO
[08:11] <Aubade> Clearly NeoGeo64 is a fire-breather, or at least the mother inside me hopes.
[08:11] <funkdollar> Aubade: why not, there are so many standards for us to choose. Ultimate user experience ;-)
[08:11] <Daverocks> MasseR: it's weird because memtest shows i have bad ram, and when i specified the bad bits of ram as a boot parameter to a mandriva kernel, BadRAM picked up on it, but it STILL locked up. i think there was other bad ram that BadRAM didn't know about
[08:12] <bowens> I'm getting a funky error with apt-get, I am able to download other files, but if I use the "--reinstall" flag I get "reinstallation is not possible, it can't be downloaded"
[08:12] <roflworthy> I was wondering if anyone knows why I'm not able to sign onto my MSN account on gaim?
[08:12] <darkdrag0n> well maybe one of the more advanced users can help you out then...i'm not familiar with the NVidia install
[08:12] <Daverocks> MasseR: however, when i tried opensuse (which didn't have badram compiled in to the kernel) it has never locked up, even with this bad ram
[08:12] <MasseR> Daverocks: When I get it to boot it's working like charm, but it's only _if_ I can get it to boot
[08:12] <Daverocks> MasseR: ubuntu hasn't locked up either
[08:12] <Daverocks> MasseR: really? so it never locks up if it successfully boots?
[08:12] <Aubade> Ah man, now I'm reminiscing about BeOS.
[08:12] <MasseR> I don't get lockups I get segfaults. And no It doesn't segfault if it boots
[08:13] <MasseR> If badram is installed taht is
[08:13] <roflworthy> Hello?  Anyone able to help me?
[08:13] <darkdrag0n> does anyone know what ISSE support is?
[08:13] <Aubade> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeBox // Wikipedia prevails yet again.
[08:13] <Daverocks> MasseR: but... it's segfaults of the kernel? :P
[08:13] <Slart> roflworthy: if anyone had a good answer for you, they would probably had written it by now
[08:13] <Aubade> Those cost such a pretty penny back then.
[08:14] <darkdrag0n> thanks Aubade...maybe wiki will know..hehe
[08:14] <MasseR> Daverocks: Nope
[08:14] <Slart> roflworthy: I'm using msn with gaim.. but either it isn't working or my contacts isn't online (only 1 or 2 using msn)
[08:14] <n2diy> MasseR: have you re-seated your RAM?
[08:14] <roflworthy> I'm not able to sign into my MSN account on gaim.  I open up gaim, it signs me in, but then the buddy list just instantly disappears.
[08:14] <Nuked> Slart: which gaim?
[08:14] <MasseR> n2diy: Yes yes :)
[08:14] <Daverocks> MasseR: hmm. if a process is segfaulting and the kernel doesn't lock up when allocating memory, then it might be buffer overflow problems in the process, though i highly doubt it
[08:15] <bowens> I'm getting a funky error with apt-get, I am able to download other files, but if I use the "--reinstall" flag I get "reinstallation is not possible, it can't be downloaded" I've tried googling this error but the only references to it are a glitch in apt-get from a couple years ago, somehow I don't think that's the case here
[08:15] <n2diy> MasseR: ok.
[08:15] <darkdrag0n> nope...wiki doesn't know ISSE
[08:15] <Aubade> I'm probably behind you in BASH familiarity, had been sitting on shells for so long and not used 'em till having used *nix.
[08:15] <Slart> Nuked: the one in the edgy repos, 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[08:15] <MasseR> Daverocks: What's strange is that I can't boot even if I take the badram= section out
[08:15] <Krazylegz> I've got an install question that is holding me up, can I just ask?
[08:15] <MasseR> Well I could once today
[08:15] <Slart> roflworthy: sounds like some other problem.. nothing in the logs?
[08:15] <NeoGeo64> Man, I've been huffing diesel fuel all night.  I'm so lightheaded.
[08:16] <Daverocks> MasseR: i'd think that you'd be LESS likely to boot when you take out the badram parameter, if anything
[08:16] <n2diy> ! Krazylegz | ask
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Krazylegz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <roflworthy> What do you mean by logs?  I just installed Ubuntu and I'm pretty new with it.
[08:16] <Nuked> Slart: If I remember correctly this issue may have been solved in the upcoming releases of gaim
[08:16] <Aubade> bowens: What's the error output entirely?
[08:16] <funkdollar> Aubade, even though linux has come a long way there are many _very_ bad things at least from the perspective of the user
[08:16] <n2diy> ! ask! | Krazylegz
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <bowens> hold on lemme get it
[08:16] <Slart> Nuked: I'm not the one having issues, but thanks anyway =)
[08:16] <NeoGeo64> roflworthy:  He means toilet logs, the brown ones with cracks in them.
[08:16] <MasseR> Daverocks: I can boot everytime when I don't have badram patch installed. What I'm wondering about is wheter the kernel screwed up while compiling or if I'm doing something wrong
[08:16] <oFF-beAt> !ask! | Krazylegz
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <Daverocks> man.
[08:17] <oFF-beAt> !ask | Krazylegz
[08:17] <ubotu> Krazylegz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:17] <oFF-beAt> :D
[08:17] <Daverocks> that's it :P
[08:17] <roflworthy> NeoGeo: Thanks but I'm not retarded.
[08:17] <Slart> roflworthy: try asking in the #Gaim channel instead.. they might be better suited to answer you
[08:17] <oFF-beAt> yes!!!! finally i got it!!
[08:17] <oFF-beAt> :D
[08:17] <roflworthy> Okay thanks.
[08:17] <Krazylegz> I'm attempting to do a Desktop install of Edgy. I can't seem to get the graphical installer to recognize that I HAVE set a root partition. WOuld it be a problem to install to a logical partition?
[08:17] <n2diy> Krazylegz: yes, by all means ,ask.
[08:17] <Aubade> funkdollar: Lies, everything is perfect! X11's tearing and and the wagon of people with their own standards each are features.
[08:17] <Krazylegz> I did: /dev/hdb1 /boot, /dev/hdb5 /, /dev/hdb8 swap.
[08:17] <Slart> roflworthy: logs.. either system log /var/log/syslog or some other gaim related log
[08:17] <Daverocks> MasseR: if the kernel isn't kernel panicing, that's one step
[08:17] <NeoGeo64> Krazylegz:  Stick your box in the microwave.  3 minutes on high should fix it.
[08:18] <funkdollar> Aubade, from simply watching the progress of the haiku OS i think that there are things in it that people wnt
[08:18] <Krazylegz> Heh.
[08:18] <MasseR> Daverocks: No kernel panics. Only unknown interrupts
[08:18] <MasseR> With or without badram=
[08:18] <Aubade> Krazylegz: Should be able to.
[08:18] <MasseR> (well it did boot once today without badram=)
[08:18] <Krazylegz> I just don't get why it stops on that.
[08:18] <Slart> roflworthy: I don't know if gaim writes its own logs... check in /var/log/ see if there is anything gaim-ish.. if there isn't it's probably in the syslog
[08:18] <Daverocks> Krazylegz: i've installed to logical partitions
[08:18] <bowens> funkdollar: http://pastebin.com/
[08:18] <Aubade> Logical partitions can be made to be flagged as bootable.
[08:18] <Krazylegz> Tells me that there isn't any root partition set, when I clearly have / set and I told it that it was to be reformatted.
[08:19] <Daverocks> MasseR: i assume you've tried other, known good, RAM?
[08:19] <Krazylegz> Aubade: I did set the partition to bootable as well, though that shouldn't even be necessary.
[08:19] <funkdollar> Aubade, i would install linux in many friends homes - but how to explain to the most ignorant ones that copy-paste does not work the same ? Or that widget sets are totally different ? or ...
[08:19] <Krazylegz> I have a seperate /boot and Linux shouldn't require that the partition is set to bootable anwyay.
[08:19] <MasseR> Daverocks: I was hoping I don't have to.. Have to take off graphics card for that
[08:19] <NeoGeo64> Can someone tell me if a NVIDIA FX 5200 is going to be too much for my 1.4ghz P4 Williamette with 512mb rdram?
[08:19] <Nuked> slart this may be better asked in #gaim
[08:19] <funkdollar> bowens, why ?
[08:20] <Krazylegz> Ugh, I have to use Grub with Ubuntu? I'm sure I'll switch to Lilo at some point. :-)
[08:20] <bowens> Ummm that was my question
[08:20] <bowens> Why isn't it downloadable?
[08:20] <funkdollar> bowens, without wanting to insult anyone i wrote these things of course - i said things have come a long way
[08:20] <Daverocks> MasseR: hm..
[08:20] <Slart> Nuked: yes.. roflworthy is already there, hopefully he'll get some help
[08:20] <Aubade> funkdollar: Oh man, C 'n' P is probably the first thing that always comes up when I introduce a GNOME desktop to someone.
[08:20] <MasseR> Daverocks: I'll try compiling it again -.-Grr
[08:20] <chalcedny>  i'm running ubuntu and i'm online with it BUT both of my monitors are dark with only a - flashing in the corner. I've checked the plugs.. what else could be wrong?
[08:20] <bowens> funkdollar: huh??
[08:21] <Rynoo> ead: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-legacy_1.0.7184+2.6.17.7-10.1_i386.deb: files list file for package `bogofilter' is missing final newline
[08:21] <Rynoo> what the hell is that?
[08:21] <Rynoo> anyone know?
[08:21] <Nuked> slart something tells me sending him there may have been a bad idea
[08:21] <Rynoo> or does anyone know how I can get these damn nvidia drivers installed?
[08:21] <funkdollar> bowens, i asked why you told me about pastebin ? What am i supposed to paste there ?
[08:21] <Slart> Nuked: I'm in there too.. perhaps he'll learn to ask better questions.. =)
[08:22] <bowens> no, the link is the error output, I pasted it there
[08:22] <Aubade> Someone tell 'im credit information and SS information goes in PasteBin, I'll give you the hugest 'participation' trophy from the third grade in my closet.
[08:22] <Nuked> Slart: or perhaps this may push him to use amsn
[08:22] <Aubade> That or an old black Prismo with a failing HDD... worth as much as a plastic trophy I'm sure.
[08:23] <Slart> Nuked: if it works better for him, who can blame him
[08:23] <tommason> when using sudo apt-get can I get a different version of php other then 5.1.6.. I need 5.2
[08:23] <Aubade> Good attitude, Slart.
[08:23] <Nuked> Aubade: was that sarcasm?
[08:23] <Aubade> Nah.
[08:24] <funkdollar> Aubade, what really annoys me are the _evangelists_ saying that linux is perfect for all things - and hiding  when it comes to things working in a specific way
[08:24] <Aubade> funkdollar: mm
[08:24] <Slart> awww, come on.. I wasn't mean to him.. I gently directed him to a better place to ask.. seems like he's getting the help he didn't get here..
[08:24] <mneptok> tommason: PHP5 in te repos is 5.1.6, sorry
[08:25] <n2diy> funkdollar: that maybe because there is no "specific way" to do things in linux, usually there are two or three ways of doing the same thing.
[08:25] <Nuked> funkdollar not everything is noob friendly as it were
[08:25] <funkdollar> Aubade, i mean for example the mayhem of X font configuration - this is a major clusterf***  if you want fonts exactly the same along everything related to X: gnome, kde, old apps with athena widgets, old gtk apps etc
[08:25] <Aubade> Yeah, only versions in the repos are 5.1.6 and 4.4.2.
[08:25] <tommason> so I will need to download and compile it..
[08:26] <sail> whois sail
[08:26] <tommason> I am a linux n00b
[08:26] <frankd3> Hi, i'm trying to get mplayer to play wmv.  Can someone help me?
[08:26] <mneptok> tommason: or find an unofficial .deb
[08:26] <n2diy> mneptok: me?
[08:26] <Aubade> funkdollar: Well, the progress that's been made in 16 years is still there and impressive when considering how futile efforts have been to standardize all the aspects (windowing systems, widget toolkits, package management, etc).
[08:26] <Slart> frankd3: you have to use mplayer? (vlc is an alternative that plays wmv's out of the box)
[08:27] <mneptok> Aubade: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:27] <Aubade> Still, it's downright embarrassing how the smaller trivialities like font management and X11 configuration have gone overseen.
[08:28] <MasseR> Aubade: What do you mean?
[08:28] <frankd3> Slart:  i tried playing w/ vlc player but i can't see anything
[08:28] <oldmanstan> hi everybody
[08:28] <Nuked> !offtopic
[08:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:28] <Aubade> MasseR: Ah man, it's a discussing best left alone for now. This is a support channel, not a soapbox.
[08:28] <Aubade> Discussion, even.
[08:28] <funkdollar> Aubade, the really funny thing about standardization in a free operating system is that: people start developing their own standard hoping that it will prevail. When it does not all existing standards are kept and their existence is baptized "choice" and "freedom of speech". Of course now they are features  lol
[08:29] <Slart> frankd3: oh, never had that happen to me before.. vlc usually plays everything I throw at it..
[08:29] <bowens> funkdollar: I have verified that the base ubuntu repositories are in the sources list, but it won't elaborate on why it can't download the image
[08:29] <Aubade> Let's just leave it at that, funkdollar. :P
[08:29] <Slart> frankd3: there are probably some tutorials on the net.. let's see what ubuto says
[08:29] <Slart> !wmv | frankd3
[08:29] <ubotu> frankd3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <ootput> hi guys, after fumbling with openbox on ubuntu, i seem to have lost my gnome session. Now, after selecting "gnome session" I don't get what Ubuntu had originally designed. How do I restore the stock Ubuntu experience?
[08:30] <funkdollar> Aubade, yes you are right - i get really sentimental some times :-|
[08:30] <funkdollar> bowens, are you sure you still have the repositories you had in your sources.list ?
[08:30] <bowens> funkdollar: i just finished verifying and ran update just to be sure
[08:31] <frankd3> Slart and ubotu:  thanks, let me start reading the ubuntu information that ubotu gave me to help solve this issue
[08:31] <tarelerulz> How do you config your session to say run twm and not something like kde or gnome ? Do any of you know the file the goveres that
[08:31] <bowens> funkdollar: if i could just download the deb file somewhere i could just manually dpkg it
[08:31] <funkdollar> well if you use synaptic refresh your package lists - if a package has not been cached it /var it will get redownloaded - and if your sources.list is not correct an error will occur
[08:32] <frankd3> !wmv | frankd3
[08:32] <ubotu> frankd3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:32] <HeyJude> hey tomanson i guess its how bad do you need 5.2 stead of 5.1
[08:32] <Slart> frankd3: ubuto is a bot.. but I'm sure it's most happy to serve =)
[08:32] <frankd3> Slart:  thanks, i didn't know that
[08:33] <Slart> frankd3: you're welcome
[08:33] <funkdollar> Slart, i made the mistake too - i keep hitting on bots many times, but aften they are fun to discuss with :-O
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <Slart> funkdollar: hehe.. they get kind of repetitive.. but at least it gives you someone to talk to =)
[08:34] <funkdollar> Slart, they remind me of my girlfriend - but she is repetitive for other things lmao
[08:34] <Slart> hehe
[08:35] <_dd02_> !xgl
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:35] <funkdollar> folks is anyone running xgl ?
[08:36] <funkdollar> I tried it and it worked but the huge startup time is very annoyning
[08:36] <frogzoo> !anyone | funkdollar
[08:36] <ubotu> funkdollar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:38] <funkdollar> frogzoo, the question has been answered - does everybody get xgl startup time of more than 20 seconds ?
[08:38] <funkdollar> arghh i mean "asked"
[08:38] <Slart> I'm not running it until it comes in a package.. until then I'm happy with gnome
[08:38] <tempp123456> hi guys !
[08:38] <Slart> hello tempp123456
[08:39] <Slart> inspired nick there =)
[08:39] <tarelerulz> I want to try out beryl myself and see what the 3d desktop is like
[08:39] <tempp123456> Are there anybody from Russia ? )
[08:39] <funkdollar> I have tried both xgl and aiglx with beryl on my ati x700
[08:39] <tempp123456> Ubuntu - the best linux distribution !!
[08:40] <funkdollar> they both worked - xgl works only with the closed source driver while aiglx works out of the box with the open source radeon driver
[08:40] <funkdollar> but the open source radeon driver has still many problems
[08:40] <tempp123456> but there are some uncomfortable things (about listening to music mp3)
[08:40] <Nuked> Slart: I believe that rotflworthy needs help upgrading to edgy
[08:40] <Nuked> or installing amsn
[08:40] <Slart> Nuked: yes.. I see it
[08:41] <funkdollar> tempp123456, there are workaraounds
[08:41] <Slart> Nuked: and I have no experience whatsoever in updating.. I started with edgy
[08:41] <nn> anyone gotten glibc to build under ubuntu for cross compiling? I'm catching all sorts of hell
[08:41] <Slart> Nuked: would amsn be better perhaps?
[08:41] <Nuked> there is a chance, seeing as he definitely has no idea what he is doing
[08:42] <tarelerulz> So, aiglx would be the one to get with beryl?
[08:42] <Nuked> torelrulz depends on graphics card
[08:42] <tarelerulz> I have nvidiea
[08:43] <Nuked> perhaps you may be better off with xgl.. but don't quote me there
[08:43] <Nuked> see wikipedia
[08:44] <tarelerulz> Are you talking to me Nuked?
[08:44] <MasseR> Actually you need aiglx
[08:44] <Nuked> yes I am
[08:44] <MasseR> *you can use aiglx
[08:44] <MasseR> Which is better than xgl
[08:44] <MasseR> #ubuntu-xgl (for both types :))
[08:45] <Nuked> I guess that settles the issue tarelerulz
[08:45] <Souljah> hi
[08:45] <Souljah> i need some help badly
[08:45] <Nuked> whats the problem? (be as detailed as possible)
[08:45] <Souljah> ok
[08:46] <Souljah> i'll link you
[08:46] <Souljah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343898
[08:46] <Souljah> no one has responded
[08:46] <Souljah> I also have a second issue but first i want to deal with this
[08:46] <Nuked> its not uncommon for people to be ignored here, Souljah
[08:46] <Madpilot> Souljah, skype is known to have audio bugs, I suspect you've hit one of them
[08:47] <Souljah> Madpilot but it's not just skype. it's gizmoproject too
[08:47] <Nuked> souljah this is a rather simple issue
[08:47] <Nuked> souljah they occupy the soundcard
[08:47] <Slart> Souljah: some of these programs probably use OSS for sound instead of alsa
[08:47] <Madpilot> Souljah, I don't know a thing about gizmoproject - but as I said, skype has known issues w/ sharing audio
[08:47] <Slart> it's the same thing with teamspeak and most games
[08:48] <Souljah> ok so how do i enable multiple sounds then because in following a thread to do that, it didn't work
[08:48] <Souljah> i had to revert back to my original settings
[08:48] <Souljah> I tried to use ALSA for VLC but vlc doesn't have that option
[08:49] <Nuked> you have a package called vlc-alsa
[08:49] <Nuked> or something to that effect
[08:49] <Nuked> allow me to check
[08:49] <Souljah> ok. how do i find that out?
[08:49] <MotorCityMadMan> I had to use "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" to mount a usb stick. How does won get it to automount ?
[08:50] <Nuked> souljah
[08:50] <Nuked> vlc-plugin-arts
[08:50] <mneptok> Souljah: if an app is using OSS or ESD for sound then it may well not support multiple stream playback. it's nothing you can fix easily.
[08:50] <Souljah> darn..
[08:50] <Souljah> i was hoping my move to ubuntu might be easy :p
[08:50] <Slart> Souljah: do a search in synaptic for vlc.. there are several packages.. some with alsa, some with others
[08:50] <mneptok> Souljah: uhhh ....
[08:50] <Nuked> souljah stick with it believe me its worth it
[08:50] <Slart> !vlc-plugin-alsa
[08:50] <ubotu> vlc-plugin-alsa: dummy transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 0 kB, installed size 8 kB
[08:50] <Souljah> ok
[08:50] <gb_> hiya :)
[08:51] <Nuked> thats a dummy package
[08:51] <Nuked> try vlc-plugin-arts Souljah
[08:51] <Souljah> where in terminal?
[08:51] <gb_> Souljah:  in accesories
[08:51] <Nuked> yes, do sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-arts
[08:51] <Slart> yes.. do as nuked wrote
[08:52] <gb_> hiya nuked :)
[08:52] <Nuked> hello gb_
[08:52] <Souljah> ok it's installing..
[08:52] <Nuked> gb_: its been a while...
[08:52] <Souljah> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:52] <Souljah>   videolan-doc vlc vlc-plugin-alsa vlc-plugin-arts wxvlc
[08:52] <Souljah> 0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:52] <Souljah> Need to get 3242kB/11.4MB of archives. After unpacking 26.0MB will be used.
[08:52] <Souljah> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 
[08:52] <Souljah> that's what it says
[08:52] <Slart> hmm.. I'm using vlc and I have an alsa audio output module.. wonder if it came with vlc or in some other package
[08:52] <Souljah> that means i have it?
[08:52] <gb_> Nuked:  whats up?
[08:53] <Nuked> Souljah:  type in the letter y and hit enter
[08:53] <Souljah> ok
[08:53] <Souljah> ok while it's doing this..
[08:53] <Slart> Souljah: how did you install vlc in the first place?
[08:53] <Nuked> gb_: not much... figured id take some time off and get better acquainted with the system
[08:54] <Souljah> i have something that has been bothering me. oh i installed vlc through tar -xzvf and then doing ./configure, make, and sudo make install
[08:54] <gb_> Nuked:  yes been while , it was holiday here, so came to learna  bit more bout ubuntu
[08:54] <Souljah> my other issue was that windows has not been accepting my internet connection, simply did not work. on ubuntu it does
[08:54] <gb_> Nuked:  likewise, i came here to chk out beryl , heard so much bout it
[08:54] <Souljah> eventually i did an OS reinstall and still it does not work
[08:54] <Nuked> gb_: It is quite nice
[08:54] <Souljah> can ubuntu in any way change my internet properties in xp?
[08:54] <Nuked> but for some its loaded with issues
[08:54] <gb_> Souljah:  nope
[08:55] <Slart> Souljah: you can't get your windows machine to connect to internet?
[08:55] <Madpilot> Souljah, it shouldn't touch XPs settings
[08:55] <Souljah> no Slar
[08:55] <Souljah> i'm just wondering
[08:55] <Souljah> why work ONLY in ubuntu
[08:55] <Souljah> but not xp
[08:55] <Souljah> i'm just baffled
[08:55] <Slart> Souljah: ah.. dual booting.. nope.. ubuntu shouldn't change anything
[08:55] <gb_> Souljah:  no biggy , xp is after all winblows
[08:55] <gb_> lol
[08:55] <nataku_> hello
[08:55] <gb_> hi
[08:55] <Souljah> I even did an OS reinstall for XP.. complete.. different partition
[08:56] <nataku_> I'm trying to use a USB MIDI keyboard to make some generic musical sounds with zynaddsubfx
[08:56] <Slart> Souljah: have you tried shutting down the machine and waiting an hour or so and then trying again?
[08:56] <gb_> Souljah:  u should not face issues, what kinda of connection u got?
[08:56] <nataku_> but I can't get it working
[08:56] <nataku_> zyn works fine, but my keyboard doesn't work for it
[08:56] <nataku_> it's registered by dmesg, but nothing else happens
[08:56] <Slart> Souljah: it could be something with dhcp servers, mac-addresses and such
[08:56] <Souljah> Slart i have done that and many other things. and gb_ it's LAN. no modem or anyother thing
[08:57] <Nuked> Souljah: dhcp should have taken care of that
[08:57] <Souljah> ok if i point you to a forum.. see if you guys can help me.. i know you specilize in ubuntu though
[08:57] <gb_> Souljah:  did u config it's TCP/IP settings ?, if it uses static IP setting,
[08:57] <Souljah> http://www.techsupportforum.com/networking-forum/networking-support/136053-internet-inaccessible-timing-out-pinging-gateway.html#post765857
[08:57] <incorrect> i have a pentium M should i run the 64bit ubuntu on it?
[08:57] <sparr> whats the line to add to my sources.list to get 'multiverse'/non-free ?
[08:57] <incorrect> or is it just xeon's that are 64bit in the intel range before duo
[08:57] <incorrect> and pentium d
[08:57] <Souljah> I did. i reset tcp/ip resets, reinstalled tcp/ip, cleared winsock and last of all, did an os reinstall and enabled it for automatically obtain an ip. it's using a router
[08:58] <nraj> # /random
[08:58] <Souljah> ok Nuked it's installed
[08:58] <Souljah> now what
[08:58] <nataku_> anyone?
[08:58] <Nuked> run gizmo and vlc at the same time and see what happens
[08:58] <Souljah> ok
[08:58] <Slart> Souljah: I had that problem when using debian once... when I shut down my windows box it didn't release the ip-number, it also did something with the mac address of my network card so when I tried getting a new ip from the dhcp server it refused (since I already had one ip registered at that connection). Shutting down, waiting until my dhcp lease expired, fixed that
[08:58] <gb_> Souljah:  make sure any firewall ur using is off , run a tcp/ip test then
[08:58] <Souljah> let me check
[08:59] <Souljah> Nuked now VLC won't open
[08:59] <sparr> running a [k] ubuntu livecd, is there any way to backup my unionfs to a hard drive so i can maintain my changes between reboots?
[09:00] <Souljah> and Slart I also use a static ip address.. I used it statically and still nothing
[09:00] <Nuked> Souljah: man I have ran out of ideas
[09:00] <Souljah> lol Nuked
[09:01] <gb_> what u trying to do soul?
[09:01] <Nuked> you can easily remove the package I told you to install
[09:01] <Souljah> sudo aptitude uninstall vlc-plugins-arts?
[09:01] <Souljah> and gb_ about what.. this vlc issue or my windows issue
[09:02] <Nuked> or you can do sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc-plugins-arts
[09:02] <gb_> Souljah:  this linux/vlc issue :)
[09:02] <Slart> Souljah: vlc didn't start at all? huh? weird.. what happens when you run it in the terminal? errors?
[09:02] <Nuked> I dont know if vlc has an IRC channel
[09:02] <Souljah> oh.. lol. well gb_ it's strange. no application can play multiple sounds.
[09:02] <Souljah> vlc does have have an irc channel
[09:03] <Souljah> they told me i need to make multiple devices
[09:03] <Souljah> virtual
[09:03] <cmt^^> how do I find out if a certain program is running?
[09:03] <Souljah> and vlc doesn't run from the terminal
[09:03] <gb_> cmt^^:  top
[09:03] <Slart> cmt^^: htop, top or ps -A
[09:03] <gb_> !top | cmt^^
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Slart> think there is an atop too
[09:04] <gb_> why on earth u want mulitple sound :)
[09:04] <Nuked> cmt: ps ax
[09:04] <gb_> lol
[09:04] <Souljah> ok this is strange.. VLC only opens from it's parent directory
[09:04] <Souljah> and gb_ the reason being is that i can't listen to music while talking on gizmo or skype
[09:04] <Nuked> Souljah: wtf did you do to your install lol
[09:04] <gb_> lol
[09:04] <Nuked> Souljah: I have the same issue with gizmo
[09:04] <Souljah> nothing. i didn't do a synaptic upgrade since it was only 0.8.4
[09:04] <cmt^^> ok, i have the following issue: apache won't start due to: "(98): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[09:04] <cmt^^> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:04] <Souljah> i had to manualy install it
[09:05] <cmt^^> what to do?
[09:05] <nataku_> does anyone in here know why a USB MIDI keyboard wouldn't work?
[09:05] <gb_> cmt^^:  did u chk http.conf file?
[09:05] <gb_> for any errors
[09:05] <Nuked> do :  which vlc
[09:05] <nataku_> I have snd-usb-audio loaded
[09:05] <cmt^^> gb_ - don't really know what to look for
[09:05] <Nuked> in terminal
[09:05] <Slart> hmm.. just a though here.. but isn't there something with linux and binding to a port below 1000 when not root?
[09:06] <cmt^^> Slart - I am root
[09:06] <gb_> cmt^^: search for 80 , see if there is no error there
[09:06] <gb_> cmt^^:  lol i messed up mine, while once editing it
[09:06] <Nuked> Slart: rule of thumb dont screw with ports, you may get stuck if you get my drift :-D
[09:06] <gb_> <<case of bad spellings
[09:06] <Slart> hehe :D
[09:07] <Souljah> ok i'm playing VLC.. gizmo opens up fine. no errors. buti can't hear anything. and skype works fine.
[09:07] <r0ck> Can the Gnome cd/dvd-creator make bootable cd's?
[09:07] <Souljah> so i guess i need to configure gizmo
[09:07] <Nuked> gizmo is a soundcard hoh
[09:07] <Nuked> g
[09:07] <cmt^^> gb_ - could this be it? I have two 'Listen' directives
[09:07] <Slart> cmt^^: that sounds like a good suspect
[09:07] <cmt^^> one for the main domain, and one for the subdomain
[09:07] <gb_> cmt^^:  hold on let me chk mine, apache2?
[09:07] <cmt^^> gb_ - yup
[09:08] <cmt^^> Slart - could I make those two lines into one?
[09:08] <cmt^^> like Listen 80, 443?
[09:08] <Souljah> ok Nuked vlc 0.8.4 is working. VLC 0.8.6a is not opening
[09:08] <gb_> cmt^^:  you can comment out subdomain and give it a start see if it works, else u can uncomment it again
[09:08] <Slart> cmt^^: I'm no apache expert.. try commenting one and restart
[09:08] <Nuked> souljah you compiled 0.86a
[09:08] <Nuked> ?
[09:08] <Souljah> yes Nuked
[09:08] <Souljah> i compiled it
[09:09] <cmt^^> gb_ - no luck
[09:09] <r0ck> Can the Gnome cd/dvd-creator make bootable cd's?
[09:09] <Souljah> VLC 0.8.6a is not in the repositories
[09:09] <cmt^^> same error with #Listen 443
[09:09] <Nuked> where did you install it to?
[09:09] <Souljah> i'm on dapper
[09:09] <cmt^^> r0ck - surely, why wouldn't it?
[09:09] <Souljah> i didn't install it anywhere but i put the extracted files in my home directory
[09:09] <gb_> cmt^^: 443 is ssl mode, u got ssl installed?
[09:10] <gb_> cmt^^:  are ssl modules loaded?
[09:10] <Souljah> vlc 0.8.4 is in /usr/bin/vlc
[09:10] <Nuked> souljah it works fine for me on edgy
[09:10] <Nuked> both at the same time
[09:10] <cmt^^> gb_ - hmm i don't know, i just ripped this from the apache sample config-page.. but that's not the issue here, right? port 80 is the one not working
[09:10] <r0ck> cmt^^: do I have to doo something special? Because I just burned an iso for Kubuntu, and I won't boot even If I choose cdrom from my bios
[09:10] <Nuked> souljah checkinstall is your friend
[09:10] <Souljah> vlc 0.8.6a is in /home/berkeley/vlc-0.8.6a/vlc
[09:10] <cmt^^> gb_ - how do I know? :|
[09:10] <Souljah> ok Nuked i'l try using checkinstall
[09:11] <Souljah> lets see
[09:11] <gb_> cmt^^:  chk /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[09:11] <sleepy723> how do I  un-install a compile I made of kiba-dock
[09:11] <gb_> cmt^^:  can u post the error message again?
[09:11] <sleepy723> I want it out of my system for a fresh install
[09:12] <Nuked> cd to the directory sleepy723 and do sudo make uninstall
[09:12] <sleepy723> ok
[09:12] <cmt^^> bash: chk: kommando hittades inte
[09:12] <Nuked> the directory where the build source is
[09:12] <sleepy723> then what?
[09:12] <cmt^^> (command not found)
[09:12] <Nuked> thats it it will remove kiba-dock
[09:12] <gb_> cmt^^:  for what?
[09:12] <cmt^^> chk ...
[09:12] <Nuked> souljah I didnt mean for these packages (vlc)
[09:13] <Nuked> they will  conflict and installing will fail
[09:13] <cmt^^> hang on for the error message
[09:13] <Souljah> so for whta package then Nuked ?
[09:13] <Souljah> what
[09:13] <r0ck> I can't get nm-applet to start.  If i run it in terminal I get no errors
[09:13] <cmt^^> (98): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[09:13] <cmt^^> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:13] <cmt^^> there you go
[09:13] <Nuked> souljah whatever package you choose to compile in the future
[09:14] <Nuked> or you can remove 084 and install 086 with checkinstall
[09:14] <gb_> cmt^^:  ok prob. some modules not installed i think
[09:14] <gb_> cmt^^: did u apt-get install apache2 ?
[09:14] <cmt^^> umh ok
[09:14] <cmt^^> gb_ - yup
[09:14] <Souljah> ok nuked
[09:14] <Souljah> let me remove 0.8.4
[09:14] <Nuked> Souljah: this may not be a good idea if you don't fully understand what you are doing
[09:14] <gb_> no firewalls?
[09:15] <Souljah> but then synaptic will annoy me that i need to do updates
[09:15] <cmt^^> well a router, but i've opened port 80 on there
[09:15] <Souljah> for vlc
[09:15] <Souljah> i've compiled Azureus fine
[09:15] <gb_> cmt^^:  try this man
[09:15] <Souljah> no problems ;)
[09:15] <Nuked> you must build from a clean source
[09:15] <Nuked> ./configure + options
[09:15] <Nuked> make
[09:15] <Nuked> then sudo checkinstall
[09:16] <gb_> cmt^^:  apt-get install apache-ssl
[09:16] <Souljah> i've only been in ubuntu for like 2 weeks. yes i will try that.
[09:16] <gb_> cmt^^:  open port 443
[09:16] <Nuked> and pay attention to the output
[09:17] <tehsu> anyone know anything about intel onboard video drivers
[09:17] <darkdrag0n> where is agpart listed in the kernel compile?
[09:17] <Souljah> Nuked do you have msn or something.. or gtalk
[09:17] <Souljah> so i can continue this there
[09:17] <Souljah> don't want to spam this channel
[09:17] <cmt^^> bah
[09:17] <Nuked> souljah are you registered to freenode?
[09:17] <gb_> tehsu:  what bout it/
[09:17] <cmt^^> gb_ - it seems i have apache 1.3 installed as well
[09:17] <Souljah> yes i am Nuked
[09:18] <tehsu> what driver do i use?
[09:18] <cmt^^> after installing the ssl-module, it said: " * Starting apache-ssl 1.3 web server...  "
[09:18] <_deleted> hi.  does anyone know offhand the name of the package containing the GLib 2.0 Development headers?
[09:18] <darkdrag0n> what card do you have, tehsu?
[09:18] <tehsu> 82852
[09:18] <gb_> cmt^^:  did it install?
[09:18] <gb_> cmt^^:  do a chk open https://localhost
[09:18] <tehsu> the Integrated one
[09:18] <gb_> tehsu:  intel site has drivers
[09:18] <gb_> download it
[09:18] <tehsu> those work fine?
[09:19] <cmt^^> gb_ - i don't have a "chk" command
[09:19] <gb_> cmt^^:  i meant check , open that link in browser
[09:19] <mykool> hello?
[09:19] <gb_> :)
[09:19] <cmt^^> hehe
[09:19] <cypher1> which is the configuration file for WINE ?
[09:19] <tehsu> gb: they have two different drivers, the old ones from 2004, and intellinuxgraphics.org
[09:19] <mykool> having problem installing, locks up on set time and region
[09:20] <cmt^^> gb_ - that works fine
[09:20] <darkdrag0n> there are also drivers on intel's website
[09:20] <nomego> hmm.. where does apt store the debs it downloads?
[09:20] <gb_> cmt^^:  yeah that is ssl mode,
[09:20] <nomego> I have to download them manually, so where do I put them?
[09:20] <gb_> now try http://localhost
[09:20] <cmt^^> but gb_.. if I'm running apache 1.3 simultaneously (?) isn't that a problem?
[09:21] <tehsu> darkdrag0n: the ones I see are from 2004, those will be fine? or should I use the ones from intellinuxgraphics.org?
[09:21] <gb_> cmt^^:  yeah i would use 1
[09:21] <darkdrag0n> i would use the latest available drivers, myself
[09:21] <darkdrag0n> they tend to work bugs out as they go
[09:21] <gb_> cmt^^:  mostly sock, error is due to something blocking it or modules not working
[09:22] <cmt^^> gb_ - how do I uninstall apache 1.3 and run apache2 instead?
[09:23] <gb_> cmt^^:  use syanptic , or apt-get
[09:23] <nknwd> hello. is there a way to specify a different ssh port for rdiff-backup to connect to on the remote server? thank you.
[09:23] <gb_> apt-get remove apache
[09:23] <cmt^^> gb_ - now I get this instead:
[09:23] <cmt^^> (98): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443
[09:23] <gb_> nknwd:  ssh -p i think
[09:24] <gb_> nknwd:  check ssh --help
[09:24] <mykool> anyone want to help a newby out?
[09:24] <nknwd> gb_ to rdiff-backup :)
[09:24] <nknwd> not to ssh
[09:24] <gb_> oops
[09:24] <cmt^^> this is f''ked up
[09:24] <frogzoo> mykool: we don't know yet if we can help you - what's your real problem?
[09:24] <cmt^^> gb_ - mind a private chat? :)
[09:24] <nknwd> i've looked into rdiff-backup's man page but there nothing there about port
[09:25] <ashrok> good morning :)
[09:26] <mykool> frogzoo - when running 6.10 install - step 2 "set time and date" it just freezes. just sits there, no nothing
[09:26] <gb_> cmt^^:  on terminal mode :)
[09:26] <cmt^^> gb_ - so am I! :>
[09:26] <gb_> ok
[09:27] <gb_> try it
[09:27] <ashrok> need little help plz.running 6.06 and want to write some notes into my Evolution Calendar,but Ubuntu says i am not allowed to write.how do i give myself writepermission in Evolution?
[09:27] <frogzoo> mykool: try the install again, booting with the option "linux acpi=off"
[09:27] <armando_> I just installed a fresh copy of 6.10 and I am getting this error after my first apt-get update
[09:27] <kalle__> "A workaround (for the startup problems at least) is to:
[09:27] <kalle__> 	run the client with the environment variable FCSetupDisableIPC=1 and it should start normally.
[09:27] <kalle__> Worked for me on Kubuntu 6.10." How do I do what the quote says to do?
[09:28] <armando_> dpkg: error processing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic (--configure):
[09:28] <armando_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 135
[09:28] <armando_> Could anyone possibly point me in the right direction
[09:28] <mykool> frogzoo - thanks will try
[09:28] <cmt^^> gb_ - not working huh
[09:29] <gb_> nope :(
[09:29] <gb_> installing xchat now
[09:29] <gb_> done :) , brb
[09:31] <gb_> umm
[09:31] <ashrok> need little help plz.running 6.06 and want to write some notes into my Evolution Calendar,but Ubuntu says i am not allowed to write.how do i give myself write permission in Evolution?
[09:32] <B_166-ER-X> no internet on edgy. Please help... last resort will be to reinstall :\ , it was working before , i jsut dont know what changed (reinstalled windows ondual boot with grub after)
[09:32] <cmt^^> gb_ - :)
[09:32] <B_166-ER-X> i have NO IP in ubuntu
[09:32] <cmt^^> gb_ - may I recommend irssi
[09:32] <cmt^^> B_166-ER-X - cool
[09:32] <cmt^^> now you can surf porn undetected
[09:32] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[09:32] <gb_> i 'm on xhcta now
[09:32] <cmt^^> ok
[09:32] <gb_> was on irssi before
[09:32] <cmt^^> ah
[09:32] <cmt^^> well
[09:32] <cmt^^> ..
[09:32] <cmt^^> :)
[09:32] <gb_> go for pm :)
[09:33] <cypher1> has anybody got printing working with wine ?
[09:33] <poppy> I am having wifi problems with ipw2200 on ubuntu 6-10 - I need to rmmod and modprobe frequently to make my wireless work. Anyone seen this?
[09:34] <frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: so the interface is up but unconfigured, well, configure it
[09:35] <cmt^^> gb_ - how's it going?
[09:35] <gb_> cmt u getting pm's?
[09:35] <gb_> ok
[09:35] <gb_> u?
[09:35] <cmt^^> no, nothing coming through
[09:35] <cmt^^> i'm pm'd you too
[09:35] <gb_> i pmed u
[09:35] <cmt^^> hm.
[09:35] <gb_> i did get ur pm
[09:35] <cmt^^> :)
[09:35] <gb_> and i replied
[09:36] <cmt^^> i haven't got any replies :/
[09:36] <pawcio> #seka
[09:36] <gb_> :(
[09:37] <gb_> oh well
[09:37] <ashrok> need little help plz.running 6.06 and want to write some notes into my Evolution Calendar,but Ubuntu says i am not allowed to write.how do i give myself writepermission in Evolution?
[09:37] <gb_> what do wana ask?
[09:37] <r0ck> I can't get nm-applet to start.  If i run it in terminal I get no errors
[09:38] <yakumo> anyone know how to convert .mkv to mpeg? w/ subtitle
[09:39] <Tomcat_> r0ck: Does NetworkManager run?
[09:39] <r0ck> Tomcat_: How do I check that?
[09:39] <Tomcat_> r0ck: in terminal "ps -ef | grep NetworkManager"
[09:40] <poppy> yakumo, google tells me http://www.matroska.org/downloads/linux.html but that's all I know
[09:40] <r0ck> Tomcat_: yeah, looks like it deos
[09:40] <yakumo> ok tnx
[09:41] <Tomcat_> r0ck: How do you determine that nm-applet doesn't start?
[09:41] <ashrok> ok i come back later to ask again have a nice day
[09:42] <r0ck> Tomcat_: there is no icon on the dock
[09:42] <Tomcat_> r0ck: Mh... no idea, sorry. :\
[09:42] <gb_> cmt weclome back sire
[09:42] <r0ck> thx anyway
[09:43] <mykool> frogzoo - thanks seems to have worked
[09:45] <poppy> man, bad time to ask a question... to late in the US, too early in the EU
[09:45] <frogzoo> mykool: kools
[09:46] <poppy> anyone from asia in the house?
[09:46] <gb_> me
[09:46] <gb_> y?
[09:46] <poppy> know about ipw2200 issues?
[09:46] <gb_> nope sire :)
[09:46] <poppy> :)
[09:47] <milos83> i have installed java 6 manually. how to uninstall it now? can someone help?
[09:47] <milos83> it's 10 o`clock.
[09:47] <KenSentMe> Is there a cli tool that checks the quality of my internet connection, when it went down etc.?
[09:48] <gb_> quality ?
[09:48] <gb_> not sure what you mean
[09:54] <cmt^^_> hmm
[09:54] <tehsu> anyone got any idea for SoundMax audio driver
[09:55] <tehsu> should alsa work?
[09:57] <frogzoo> tehsu: absolutely
[09:57] <tehsu> well it doesnt :-\
[09:57] <Giant_sea_turtle> The task magager is maxing out the 64 bit memory capapbility at 17179869180.0 GB o.0
[09:57] <tehsu> i checked alsamixer
[09:57] <tehsu> i checked everything i know of
[09:58] <frogzoo> tehsu: sound -> volume monitor - can you see an output when you play something?
[09:59] <tehsu> where is it
[10:00] <tehsu> im in sounds under system
[10:00] <cmt^^> how come apache won't start due to a port conflict ( i think ) after fresh install?
[10:01] <abhinay> how to download package (including all its dependencies) from repositories ?
[10:01] <akruth> hi! is it possible to use ip-addresses and subnetmask within $no_proxy?
[10:02] <mwe> cmt^^: sudo netstat -ntlp to see what's listing on which ports
[10:02] <abhinay> sudo aptitude download package_name , will it work ?
[10:03] <mwe> abhinay: apt-get -d
[10:03] <abhinay> mwe: will it also downloads all its dependencies ?
[10:04] <mwe> abhinay: it should. sudo apt-get -d install package IIRC
[10:05] <abhinay> mwe: what is the difference between aptitude download IIRC & apt-get -d install IIRC ?
[10:05] <mwe> abhinay: IIRC just means If I Recall Correctly ;)
[10:06] <abhinay> oh
[10:06] <abhinay> i thougt it is a package name :D
[10:06] <abhinay> aptitude download packagename & apt-get -d install packagename
[10:06] <mwe> abhinay: I think you need to use the -d switch for aptitude as well to achieve what you want
[10:07] <poppy> abhinay, aptitude automatically gets dependencies
[10:07] <mwe> poppy: He only wants to download the pacage and deps, though
[10:07] <poppy> that's its purpose
[10:07] <poppy> ahh
[10:07] <bartmon> hello
[10:07] <bartmon> rob_p: Are you present?
[10:08] <mwe> abhinay: aptitude -d install package if you want to use aptitude I think
[10:08] <fotoflo3> hey all, im trying to setup samba and i have a share with "writable = yes" and "read only = no"   why is it still read only?
[10:08] <frogzoo> fotoflo3: do you have write permssions to the folder under ext3?
[10:08] <poppy> abhinay, is it the case that you only want to download, and not install?
[10:09] <abhinay> mwe: so, aptitude is better to get packages & all its dependencies ?
[10:09] <mwe> abhinay: I think the packages will go to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:09] <abhinay> poppy: yes, i just want to download
[10:09] <mwe> abhinay: apt-get should install deps as well
[10:09] <Zunino> Hello. When I double-click on a music file and the associated application (Rhythmbox) is not open, it is launched, but the song won't play. Only if it is already open does double-clicking cause the song to start playing.
[10:09] <foutrelis> apt-get installs deps as well ;)
[10:09] <mwe> abhinay: aptitude is superiour when it comes to uninstalling things because if it's cache
[10:10] <Zunino> Does anybody here know how I could set things up so that the songs would play no matter the state of the player application?
[10:10] <_deleted> question: am i likely to encounter adverse effects from apt-get removing gaim1.5 while i'm running it?  because it seems to be working pretty well as my IRC client despite having supposedly been removed from my system.  :)
[10:10] <Zunino> Where and what should I do in order to fix this? Would it be in gconf?
[10:11] <mwe> abhinay: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, then sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop should leave no trace of kubuntu whereas using apt-get to perform the same task would leave all of kde still installed, only removing the kubuntu-desktop meta package
[10:11] <bartmon> mwe: What kind of cache does aptitude keep? Isn't dpkg --purge even better for unistalling?
[10:11] <foutrelis> mwe: really?
[10:11] <mwe> bartmon: nah. it only removes one package
[10:11] <christian1222> does anyone know a good place to search for rooms with different topics>
[10:11] <christian1222> ?
[10:11] <mwe> foutrelis: yeah
[10:11] <christian1222> such as html
[10:11] <foutrelis> mwe: wow
[10:11] <frogzoo> _deleted: not really recommended
[10:11] <Nuked> goognight all
[10:11] <cmt^^> !lamp
[10:11] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:11] <Hmmmm> hey guys need some help with ubuntu server. trying to install a usb prinet. but dont have a gui. any way i can do it?
[10:12] <christian1222> how would I go about finding a room where I can get help with some HTML questions?
[10:12] <Hmmmm> !printer
[10:12] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:12] <fotoflo3> Zunino: I had that problem and i figured out how to fix it... lemme see if i can play around and find what i did
[10:12] <mwe> foutrelis: you might be able to use the new apt-get autoclean, though. But that's broken here
[10:12] <v0x> Wtf, where is the high memory support configuration in a 2.6.15 kernel menuconfig? Isnt it supposed to be under processor type and features?
[10:12] <mykool> cristian1222 type /list for a list of channels
[10:12] <Zunino> Thanks, fotoflo3.
[10:13] <foutrelis> mwe: could I, for example, use aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop (and all other packages related to it) while I have installed it with apt-get?
[10:13] <mwe> v0x: it's at that place on my machine
[10:13] <fotoflo3> my mp3s are on an NT drive and the filesystem is giving me some trouble
[10:13] <mwe> foutrelis: no
[10:13] <christian1222> mykool: that just lists a whole bunch of rooms, I want to search for a room where I can get html help. How do I do that? i tried piping to grep, but I dont think bash is supported
[10:14] <mwe> foutrelis: it needs to be installed with apt-get
[10:14] <v0x> mwe: I dont see it, how strange...
[10:14] <Hmmmm> hey guys need some help with ubuntu server. trying to install a usb prinet. but dont have a gui. any way i can do it?
[10:14] <foutrelis> mwe: with aptitude you mean
[10:14] <foutrelis> :S
[10:14] <fotoflo3> zunio: i think i clicked right clicked on properties and open with or soemthing like that
[10:14] <mwe> foutrelis: you'd want to use debfoster or deborphan after removing the meta package
[10:14] <fotoflo3> right clicked on the file
[10:14] <mwe> foutrelis: yeah installed with aptitude of course
[10:14] <verve> christian1222, http://www.w3schools.com/
[10:15] <foutrelis> mwe: I should start using aptitude I think :)
[10:15] <foutrelis> !debfoster | foutrelis
[10:15] <ubotu> foutrelis: debfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/
[10:15] <mykool> christian1222 - sorry thats the only sugesstion I have, maybe try google search for IRC HELP HTTP
[10:15] <mwe> foutrelis: I find it superiour
[10:15] <foutrelis> !deborphan | foutrelis
[10:15] <ubotu> foutrelis: deborphan is a program used to clean up packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept).
[10:15] <christian1222> mykool: thanks
[10:15] <verve> christian1222, http://www.w3schools.com/
[10:15] <foutrelis> thanks for the info mwe
[10:16] <mwe> foutrelis: you sometimes have to spend some time telling it you want to keep some stuff it might want to remove, though
[10:16] <christian1222> verve: thanks, but I was looking for a room like this one, but with a topic of html
[10:16] <mykool> christian1222 np * IRC HELP HTML*
[10:16] <foutrelis> mwe: so it is kind of double edge knife :)
[10:16] <verve> heh
[10:16] <christian1222> verve: if one exists, i just wanted to know how I would go about doing that, if its even possible
[10:16] <Zunino> fotoflo3: Hum... When I right-click on a music file and check its "Open with" settings, everything looks fine, i.e., Rhythmbox is already marked as the handler application.
[10:16] <mwe> foutrelis: it can be easily done in the ncurses interface you get to when you type just sudo aptitude
[10:17] <verve> there's a #html on efnet
[10:17] <mwe> foutrelis: I use aptitude whenever I can
[10:17] <Zunino> It seems more like a problem of passing the right parameters to the application, which I am not sure where to go for fixing.
[10:17] <bartmon> How can i check whether i have GTK2+ installed? I can't find it in the packages list, there are only theme engines listed...
[10:18] <mwe> foutrelis: You will probably be annoyed be the interface the first time you use it
[10:18] <foutrelis> mwe: I have used it before ;)
[10:18] <tarelerulz> I want to put ubuntu on usb pen drive ? is it the best for this or are the other  distro that would do it better and stil have progame like gaim , mplayer , ntfsrpogs
[10:18] <mwe> foutrelis: oh ;)
[10:18] <Zunino> I mean gnome should "translate" the double-clicking into a proper call to the player application.
[10:18] <foutrelis> mwe: I don't find it easy to navigate to the package I want, but that's why we can search :P
[10:19] <tarelerulz> Mwe thans for the how-to on how to make ubuntu installer pendrive
[10:19] <mwe> tarelerulz: yw
[10:19] <mwe> foutrelis: yeah. it could need some polishing
[10:20] <mwe> bartmon: dpkg -l|grep libgtk2
[10:20] <foutrelis> !synaptic | foutrelis
[10:20] <ubotu> foutrelis: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:20] <mwe> tarelerulz: did you manage to make it work?
[10:21] <valehru> hey guys, I need to get w32codecs and libdvdcss2.  The medibuntu repo is timing out for me, (Chinese great firewall)  is there any other repo where I can get it from?
[10:21] <tarelerulz> I do not have usb pen drive . The problem I had was find anything about it on the net.  I am going to try it out when I get home WME
[10:23] <mwe> foutrelis: I think the pros of using aptitude outweighs the cons, though
[10:23] <andreasw> valehru, mplayer-hq.hu but there you won't find any debs but tar archives
[10:23] <niru> hello all
[10:23] <andreasw> valehru, for libdvdcss just search in google and add debian to your search
[10:23] <niru> Which package is for resizing of hard disk partitions
[10:23] <niru> Is it gparted or parted or both
[10:24] <mwe> !libdvdcss
[10:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:26] <cmt^^> my apache webserver won't work the way it's supposed to.. I've done everything the LAMP guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP tells me to, but the server doesn't recognize .php-files, what could be wrong?
[10:26] <frogzoo> niru: gparted for convenience
[10:26] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: have you restarted apache2 after you followed the instructions?
[10:27] <incorrect> why would 'find /mytxtfiles/ -name *.txt' not search /mytxtfiles/ ?
[10:27] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - yup, several times
[10:27] <niru> frogzoo:Is there any other package for resizing
[10:27] <theherbalizer> how do i unmount something that's not showing up?
[10:27] <frogzoo> incorrect: try: find /mytxtfiles/ -name '*.txt'
[10:28] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: are php5.conf and php5.load in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled folder?
[10:28] <foutrelis> theherbalizer: the command is umount. What do you mean 'not showing up'? where?
[10:29] <valehru> have w32codecs downloading manually, Had to use axel to make sure it downloaded properly, kept timing out... and as for libdvdcss2 I cannot get to http://www.mplayer-hq.hu/.  Keeps timing out...the net in this region of the world sucks ass....
[10:29] <theherbalizer> foutrelis: i'm trying to mount another ubuntu install, to get data off it
[10:30] <v0x> qWtf why cant I see high memory support in kernel menuconfig?! Does it have a dependency?
[10:30] <theherbalizer> foutrelis:  know of any way to do that?
[10:31] <cafuego_> valehru: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[10:31] <foutrelis> theherbalizer: So, you are trying to mount another ext3 partition so you can get some files off it?
[10:31] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - yes they are
[10:32] <theherbalizer> foutrelis: correct
[10:32] <foutrelis> !mount
[10:32] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:32] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - I assume this is an error related to the server not recognizing my .php-files... i have an index.php and when I enter my url in the adressbar it tries to open it with another program
[10:32] <theherbalizer> !diskmounter
[10:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:32] <the-erm> Anyone mind helping me ... I goofed up and chmoded /var All I really need is a list of files. and  find /var -printf '%g %u %m %p \n' | grep -v /var/www/ | grep -v kdecache > output.txt is all I would need.
[10:32] <xerophyte> seems like du does not add up the .hidden file total how can i find out all the disk usage including the hidden files?
[10:32] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: can you paste your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf in a pastebin like paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[10:33] <cmt^^> sure
[10:34] <theherbalizer> !fstab
[10:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:34] <theherbalizer> ugh
[10:34] <theherbalizer> !partitions
[10:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:34] <foutrelis> theherbalizer: you can always try: mkdir /mnt/some_name; mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/some_name
[10:34] <valehru> cafuego, wow, thanks, didnt even know that was there.
[10:34] <valehru> cafuego, much quicker
[10:34] <foutrelis> that is if you have a IDE hard drive.
[10:34] <theherbalizer> foutrelis: it's sda1, and it didn't work. i got no icon
[10:34] <amarillion> I'd like to set up my workstation so I can send mail from a script using the command line "mail" program. How do I set that up? I've installed the mailx package, but the mails I send are not arriving
[10:34] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - http://pastebin.se/6200
[10:34] <amarillion> I suspect I have to tell it which smtp server to use
[10:34] <amarillion> But I don't know how to do that
[10:35] <cmt^^> would you like the 000-default file as well?
[10:35] <foutrelis> theherbalizer: It should be mounted under the folder you specified in the mount command
[10:35] <theherbalizer> no desktop icon?
[10:35] <foutrelis> I think not :)
[10:36] <theherbalizer> oh, there it is. >.<
[10:36] <amarillion> Online documentation doesn't talk about this. Is it that weird to want this?
[10:36] <theherbalizer> thanks!
[10:36] <foutrelis> np :)
[10:38] <SiggyF> My emacs fonts are all messed up. I think it's related to my xorg.conf font  section. Can someone paste his section?
[10:39] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: can you uncomment the lines: #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php and #AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps. Then restart the server with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:40] <evan_> hi
[10:40] <frogzoo> amarillion: generally, mail clients don't talk to MTAs or talk smtp - you'll need an smtp enabled client eg msmtp
[10:40] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:41] <aLeSD> how could I add or remove services from a runlevel ?
[10:41] <aLeSD> Do I have to remove the symlink or ubuntu has some scripts to do it automatically ?
[10:42] <frogzoo> aLeSD: sudo update-rc.d SERVICE remove
[10:42] <aLeSD> frogzoo: thanks a lot
[10:42] <mwe> aLeSD: or use rcconf or bum
[10:42] <mwe> aLeSD: that will make it easy to add it again
[10:43] <mykool> frogzoo - just completed my very first ubuntu install, Thank You for the help!
[10:43] <aLeSD> rc.local service is where I can put all my private things , isn't it ?
[10:43] <frogzoo> mykool: cool, enjoy
[10:43] <mwe> aLeSD: right
[10:43] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - thanks, but it didn't help.. :( still the same errors
[10:44] <cmt^^> *same error
[10:44] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: ok, comment the lines again then
[10:45] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - is it perhaps some module that didn't load properly?
[10:45] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: maybe there are some errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log or other logs in that folder
[10:45] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: is libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[10:46] <Enverex> Whenever I try and play an MP3 in mPlayer it complains that I need to recompile with MP3 support but then plays anyway, something about ffmpeg and mp3lib
[10:46] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - how do I see that?
[10:47] <foutrelis> cmt^^: dpkg -l | grep php
[10:47] <mykool> frogzoo - one more question, I can only have one comp connected to internet at a time, how do I IRC with ubuntu?
[10:47] <foutrelis> cmt^^: or to be more exact: dpkg -l | grep libapache2-mod-php5
[10:47] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[10:48] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - it's installed.. :(
[10:48] <frogzoo> mykool: gaim's already in your menus, there's other options though - xchat, irssi - also, you can setup ubuntu as a nat router to share the internet
[10:48] <cypher1> how do i enable printing in wine ?
[10:48] <the-erm> This is so sad ...
[10:49] <cypher1> i want to use the network printer configured to be used thru wine
[10:49] <mykool> so I use gaim internet messenger? OK easy enough see ya in a few from my laptop w/ubuntu
[10:49] <frogzoo> cypher1: considered samba?
[10:49] <mykool> I hope! LOL
[10:50] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: can you try running this: sudo a2enmod php5
[10:50] <the-erm> People are asking for help on some complex subjects, and I can't even get a simple directory listing from someone.  all because I forgot to /var/w<tab>
[10:50] <cmt^^> "this module is already enabled"
[10:50] <cypher1> frogzoo: no.. a page comes up in a application run thru wine.. that page i need to print
[10:50] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: hmm
[10:50] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: did you check the logs?
[10:50] <cypher1> frogzoo: i do not think i can consider samba in that case
[10:50] <cmt^^> hang on
[10:50] <frogzoo> cypher1: you might do better to ask in #winehq
[10:51] <cypher1> frogzoo: thanks!
[10:51] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - no errors there
[10:52] <amarillion> 4frogzoo: thanks, I installed the package ssmtp and now it works as I want!
[10:52] <gotaku> So, is the feisty fawn upgrade not working?
[10:53] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: i'm out of options then, sorry
[10:53] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: i had this problem once too, but the above things solved it
[10:53] <gotaku> The upgrade gave me some errors.
[10:53] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - ok, i guess.. thanks anyways
[10:54] <gotaku> I got some sub-process post installation script errors on a few packages, including ubuntu minimal.
[10:54] <gotaku> And now my system may not start if I reboot...
[10:54] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - wow
[10:54] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - when I enter my IP in the adressbar the page works
[10:54] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: with php?
[10:54] <frogzoo> amarillion: that was quick work
[10:54] <gotaku> Is there a way to run the installation again?
[10:54] <Hmmmm> hey guys need some help with ubuntu server. trying to install a usb prinet. but dont have a gui. any way i can do it?
[10:55] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - everything works when I enter my ip.. but not the domain-name
[10:55] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: that's strange
[10:55] <illusia> gotaku add cd-rom in repositary list and install packages trough apt-get
[10:55] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: maybe check your vhosts config file
[10:56] <amarillion> 4frogzoo, yeah it is easy, I was just looking at this problem from the wrong direction. I've spent hours reading postfix documentation, but postfix is simply not what I needed
[10:56] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: cups web interface?
[10:57] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, can i install a printer using that?
[10:57] <linuxero_> enverex!
[10:58] <Enverex> linuxero_, Just shut up and leave me alone
[10:58] <linuxero_> i have a problem
[10:58] <linuxero_> The figures of the oblivion meet with amorphous arms
[10:58] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: sure
[10:58] <incorrect> thanks that got it
[10:58] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, thnx. lemme check it out
[10:58] <gotaku> How do I add the cd-rom repo?
[10:59] <linuxero_> enverex has not friends
[10:59] <linuxero_> :(
[11:00] <foutrelis> !apt-cdrom
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <foutrelis> :)
[11:00] <gotaku> How do I run the upgrade again?
[11:00] <foutrelis> gotaku: apt-cdrom is used to add a new CDROM to APTs list of available sources.
[11:00] <illusia> gotaku man apt-get
[11:01] <gotaku> Do I actually have to download the cdrom image?
[11:01] <oFF-beAt> gotaku, administration> software sources.. to add sources.. cdroms/dvds/online repos
[11:01] <illusia> gotaku you have to put installation cd into cd-rom
[11:02] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - don't know anything about that.. :(
[11:02] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - can I pastebin it?
[11:02] <gotaku> ... I don't have the installation CD or I would have used it in the first place.
[11:03] <gotaku> I ask again... how do I rerun the upgrade system.
[11:03] <foutrelis> *:S
[11:04] <incorrect> im trying to come up with a method to copy all the '.deb's 'find' finds into a single dir
[11:04] <oFF-beAt> gotaku, apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <illusia> gotaku do you have internet connection?
[11:04] <oFF-beAt> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:04] <illusia> foutrelis same :( what he want :(
[11:04] <mykool> can anyone help me get a dell c-600 with 6.10 to access the internet via eithernet?
[11:04] <gotaku> ... I already ran the upgrade and it had errors in it.
[11:04] <foutrelis> gotaku: try what oFF-beAt suggested
[11:05] <frogzoo> mykool: do you usually connect with pppoe ?
[11:05] <mykool> I dunno, dont think so
[11:05] <freakynl_> heya can anyone point me to some docs on how to patch the kernel for klips the ubuntu way? i got the openswan-modules-source package, but don't know what to do with it
[11:05] <gotaku> The packages downloaded fine but there was a problem with configuring them.
[11:05] <mindy> Hey guys, could someone help me out here?  I can't access the compaq website (in china and the net is screwed...keeps timing out), need to download a driver for my wifi card...could someone here do it for me?
[11:06] <illusia> gotaku try reconfigure base man dpkg ;)
[11:07] <illusia> gotaku or better just delete all you packages and install again trough apt-get it will be easier for you and for us ;)
[11:07] <mindy> I have a compaq v3000 laptop, and a broadcom 4310 driver.
[11:07] <frogzoo> mykool: you connect with dsl ?
[11:07] <mykool> frogzoo - yes I use DSL
[11:07] <frogzoo> mykool: and no router, just a modem?
[11:07] <gotaku> Doesn't I used "update-manager -d"
[11:07] <mykool> frogzoo - yes
[11:07] <gotaku> I used "update-manager -d"
[11:08] <frogzoo> mykool: 'sudo pppoeconf' & answer the questions - you'll need your account details
[11:08] <Czarek> hi
[11:08] <Czarek> where is channel for 7.04?
[11:09] <gotaku> Who the hell broke ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard installation scripts...
[11:10] <Lynoure> Czarek: That's #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <frogzoo> too slow :p
[11:10] <Lynoure> too impatient
[11:11] <Lynoure> less than 2min waiting is nothing.
[11:11] <mykool> frogzoo - Im a total newby, um, where do I find the command line prompt?
[11:11] <mykool> :)
[11:12] <frogzoo> mykool: from the menu -> accessories -> terminal
[11:12] <mykool> frogzoo - thanks
[11:14] <mykool> frogzoo - thanks I have to disconnect so I can connect the laptop, BRB, hopefully from laptop
[11:20] <mykool> hello
[11:20] <frogzoo> mykool: you're back
[11:21] <mykool> frogzoo - from the laptop, Yeah!
[11:21] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, hey, managed to install cups web interface. now how do i create an admin user login?
[11:21] <frogzoo> mykool: cool, grats
[11:22] <mykool> Im going to set up my mail and stuff, thanks for your help frogzoo
[11:22] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: sorry, was afk. You can pastebin it
[11:22] <KenSentMe> cmt^^: the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[11:23] <mykool> BBL to let ya know how Im progressing
[11:23] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: firstly, cups is on port 631, 2ndly, you needs to do 'sudo adduser cupsys shadow'
[11:23] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, got the first part. the second is where i was stuck. lemme try that
[11:23] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, done both. now what?
[11:24] <gotaku> Ok, turns out the problem was with vim-tiny.
[11:24] <intelikey> does anyone know what kind of code or where linux would be leaving in  maybe bios    or disk io buffer or someplace ?   vidio card maybe....    that would be causing windows  lock up at boot time ?
[11:24] <darkdrag0n> ATI drivers working perfectly now
[11:24] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: you should be able to login
[11:24] <intelikey> every reboot from linux to windows windows will lock up while starting, with "protection error"   but if you power off then boot to windows never an error.    so i know for sure it is linux doing it.
[11:24] <Hmmmm> ah okay
[11:24] <intelikey> i just don't know how or where   ?
[11:25] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, heythanx a ton. it worked :)
[11:25] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: heh, np
[11:25] <darkdrag0n> !patch
[11:25] <ubotu> patch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB
[11:25] <darkdrag0n> eh?
[11:25] <darkdrag0n> what is the command to patch a file?
[11:25] <foutrelis> Iphigenia: Are you from Greece?
[11:25] <intelikey> anyone  thoughts ?
[11:25] <frogzoo> Hmmmm: just a word of caution, you should firewall that off
[11:26] <darkdrag0n> specifically, i need to apply the ipv6 patch to proftpd
[11:26] <Hmmmm> frogzoo, ok will dothat. thnx
[11:26] <mpatyna> l
[11:27] <gotaku> How do I get rid of this gnome-control centre? I liked it the way it was before when everything was in menus.
[11:27] <jenda> Openoffice calc hangs when trying to open a spreadsheet. What other software can I try for that?
[11:27] <freakynl_> how do i get klips and why isn't it in the default kernel? :D
[11:27] <jenda> .ods, of course
[11:28] <Iphigenia> foutrelis: no but I am an ancient greek student and at the moment I am reading Iphigenia in Tauris by euripides so I thought: why not?s
[11:28] <foutrelis> Iphigenia: nice :)
[11:28] <Lynoure> gotaku: that was the very reason I switched to KDE. I got tired of digging into gconf
[11:28] <frogzoo> jenda: dapper or edgy?
[11:28] <jenda> frogzoo: edgy, xgl, beryl, OO.o 2.0
[11:29] <frogzoo> jenda: :(
[11:29] <jenda> hehe
[11:29] <frogzoo> should work
[11:29] <foutrelis> what's OO.o 2.0?
[11:29] <foutrelis> O.o
[11:29] <jenda> foutrelis: openoffice.org 2.0
[11:29] <frogzoo> foutrelis: open office - the standard office suite
[11:29] <foutrelis> aha! :)
[11:30] <jenda> ;)
[11:30] <foutrelis> :P
[11:30] <jenda> Well... it doesn't :/
[11:30] <jenda> (work)
[11:30] <foutrelis> kidding :P
[11:30] <illusia> jenda try run it without beryl and xgl
[11:30] <mataks> !beryl
[11:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:31] <jenda> illusia: no way ;)
[11:31] <jenda> illusia: I can try without beryl, though...
[11:31] <illusia> jenda why?
[11:31] <jenda> However, if I kill it now, I'll have to restart X
[11:31] <jenda> because then it doesn't start at all (after being killed)
[11:32] <jenda> illusia: my settings get waaay screwed with X.org
[11:32] <illusia> jenda chose metacity in beryl-tray-icon and run OO
[11:32] <jenda> illusia: well, yes - but that's still XGL
[11:33] <jenda> howevah, it still hangs :/
[11:34] <illusia> jenda run in cmd.what it show?
[11:34] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - think about that for a while, the issue with ip working but letter-domain not
[11:34] <jenda> illusia: what is cmd? CLI?
[11:34] <illusia> yes
[11:34] <cmt^^> i'm going to check out the scene for me and my fiancees wedding this summer, bbl!
[11:35] <illusia> gnome-terminal or konsole ;)
[11:35] <jenda> seems like nothing shows.
[11:35] <jenda> just hangs.
[11:36] <Iphigenia> Hmmm.... running Frostwire for the first time (all legal downloads of course). I knew that it was supposed to be very much like limewire but it must be a clone!!
[11:36] <foutrelis> illusia: gnome ftw
[11:36] <jenda> yup...
[11:36] <foutrelis> Iphigenia: Looks like Limewire but its code is much different
[11:37] <jenda> Iphigenia: it's an ad-free, FLOSS clone, pretty much...
[11:37] <apokryphos> it's really not that different
[11:37] <jenda> Much more to my tastes.
[11:37] <apokryphos> the whole point of Frostwire is to serve as a codebase for limewire, should they change their policies
[11:37] <Iphigenia> foutrelis: Truly? I am simply happy that it works so well. Just added the extra library to Xubuntu to play MP3s
[11:38] <jenda> (legally downloaded, of course ;))
[11:38] <Iphigenia> of course!
[11:38] <illusia> :)
[11:38] <foutrelis> lol
[11:39] <illusia> jenda no any output,no idea,but maybe some problems with dependences?Try reinstall OO.Maybe it`ll help you.
[11:40] <jenda> illusia: strange, it worked till yesterday. The sheet was created in OO.org, right here.
[11:40] <jenda> it takes about three seconds in gnumeric
[11:40] <illusia> mystery,linux-mystery i knew it ;)
[11:41] <silensius> comment lister les fichiers appartenant  un utilisateur prcis
[11:42] <jenda> yep
[11:42] <frogzoo> !fr | silensius
[11:42] <ubotu> silensius: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:42] <jenda> 
[11:42] <silensius> sorry thanks
[11:42] <frogzoo> bonne chance
[11:43] <illusia> arrivua ;)
[11:43] <foutrelis> !gr | foutrelis
[11:43] <ubotu> foutrelis: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[11:43] <foutrelis> :)
[11:43] <foutrelis> ubotu speeks greek! :P
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speeks greek! :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <frogzoo> silensius: if I understand: find / -name USER
[11:44] <dennis> #ubuntu-de
[11:44] <illusia> ubotu do you speak latvian and russian as well?
[11:44] <frogzoo> silensius: if I understand: find / -user USER
[11:44] <silensius> ok yes<frogzoo>
[11:44] <illusia> ubotu is bot :)
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is bot :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <foutrelis> !talk_dirty | foutrelis
[11:45] <foutrelis> :P
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about talk_dirty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <Iphigenia> Ellhnes is the name the ancient greeks gave to themselves
[11:45] <oFF-beAt> !my_father
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my_father - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <oFF-beAt> i knew it!
[11:46] <foutrelis> Iphigenia: Ellhnes rule
[11:46] <Lynoure> !botabuse
[11:46] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:46] <Iphigenia> the romans called the Graecus (Greek)
[11:46] <Giant_sea_turtle> !Apache
[11:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:46] <frogzoo> Iphigenia: wrong channel perhaps?
[11:47] <Iphigenia> Frogzoo: Hmmm.... good point :[)
[11:48] <rrohde> by changing sources from edgy to feisty, can I dist-upgrade to the latest development build of feisty?
[11:48] <gma> anybody know how to get out of the splash screen during boot up?
[11:49] <Iphigenia> Well to return to the real reason I am here :-) Is there a known problem that involves Thunar opening 2 windows each time it opens? It drives me crazy!
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Iphigenia: on edgy ues
[11:50] <jenda> So... say I have a file in gnumeric... and I want to open it in Calc...
[11:50] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:50] <jenda> Do I _really_ have to use .xls?
[11:50] <Iphigenia> gnomefreak: Xubuntu 6.06
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Iphigenia: not sure with dapper. try #xubuntu they might know
[11:51] <jenda> haha, it worked now :)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> jenda: i thought calc supported a couple different extentions
[11:51] <Mena> Hi friends , i have a question ....what if i installed xp then kubuntu then i use the internet in kubuntu so Xp wolud be infected by the viruses
[11:51] <Iphigenia> gnomefreak:Thanks. I will have a look but it can be a little quiet there at times
[11:51] <jenda> frogzoo: I opened it in gnumeric, removed 2/3 sheets, saved as .xls and opened in Calc.
[11:51] <jenda> gnomefreak: well, yes - but not .gnumeric
[11:52] <foutrelis> Mena: Off course.. not
[11:52] <jenda> gnomefreak: and gnumeric doesn't support .ods
[11:52] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:52] <foutrelis> *Of :)
[11:52] <Iphigenia> oops it appears to be packed
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Iphigenia: yeah i know it is sometimes
[11:52] <Iphigenia> brb
[11:53] <Mena> foutrelis,okay thanks for your answer
[11:55] <^Zat> hi
[11:55] <piao> how to change zhcon's  input method?  thanks
[11:56] <^Zat> can anyone help me with beryl?
[11:56] <^Zat> I tried with open and ati drivers
[11:56] <^Zat> xgl and aglx
[11:56] <^Zat> it does not work
[11:57] <seshomaru> hi there , can anyone tell me which codecs do i need to view wma files? i installed all the multimedia codecs i could fine but still no go...
[11:58] <^Zat> hi raof :)
[11:58] <RAOF> Howdie
[11:58] <foutrelis> !wma | seshomaru
[11:58] <ubotu> seshomaru: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:58] <^Zat> I reinstalled ubuntu from scretch
[11:58] <^Zat> tried with open and ati drivers
[11:59] <^Zat> xgl and glx... does not work
[11:59] <RAOF> ^Zat: That's unfortunate.
[11:59] <RAOF> Cause'
[11:59] <^Zat> :(
[12:00] <RAOF> 'Cause I've just spent the last couple of hours installing Feisty on this new laptop.
[12:00] <jenda> Can I please get a quick hint for what a daily command would look like in crontab -e? (the syntax)
[12:00] <seshomaru> ?
[12:00] <RAOF> And I've just run "apt-get install compiz", and it works.
[12:01] <^Zat> :/
[12:02] <Tomcat_> jenda: @daily <mycommand>
[12:02] <^Zat> and you have ati card?
[12:02] <RAOF> ^Zat: Well, no :)
[12:02] <^Zat> :P
[12:02] <RAOF> "apt-get install nvidia-glx" :)
[12:03] <Tomcat_> jenda: Alternatively, 0 0 0 0 * <mycommand> (or other values for the 0) should work.
[12:03] <Tomcat_> jenda: Sorry, 0 0 1 1 *
[12:03] <jenda> Tomcat_: thanks :)
[12:03] <oFF-beAt> all the java applications gives me a blank frame.. nothing in it.. like frost wire.. mercury messenger.. anybody know why???
[12:03] <Tomcat_> jenda: Wrong again... 0 0 * * *
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jenda: @daily is the easiest, but it will run at unspecified times.
[12:04] <jenda> Tomcat_: don't matter... but which times? :)
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jenda: crontab(5) says @daily is 0 0 * * * though.
[12:05] <jenda> ok
[12:05] <jenda> isn't there a default time when it's run, then?
[12:06] <Tomcat_> jenda: well, the manpage says it will run at midnight... I'm just not so sure about this, because my @weekly cronjobs don't run at midnight.
[12:06] <Tomcat_> jenda: See "man 5 crontab" for more info.
[12:07] <oFF-beAt> all the java applications gives me a blank frame.. nothing in it.. like frost wire.. mercury messenger.. anybody know why???
[12:07] <jenda> Tomcat_: ok, thanks.
[12:07] <oFF-beAt> !java
[12:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:07] <mneptok> oFF-beAt: what JRE?
[12:07] <oFF-beAt> mneptok, i'm using sun j2re
[12:08] <mneptok> oFF-beAt: Dapper? Edgy? how did you install it?
[12:08] <oFF-beAt> using egdy... i used apt-get to install runtime
[12:08] <oFF-beAt> i also have jdk installed
[12:09] <oFF-beAt> both with apt-get
[12:09] <mneptok> what is the output of java -version?
[12:09] <oFF-beAt> java version "1.5.0_08"
[12:09] <oFF-beAt> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[12:09] <oFF-beAt> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[12:10] <mneptok> how are you launching the apps?
[12:10] <Iphigenia> xubuntu
[12:10] <Iphigenia> ops
[12:11] <oFF-beAt> i have a short cut in the menu
[12:11] <oFF-beAt> i click the shortcut
[12:12] <[StingRay] > Hi all. Does anyone have a conroe or xeon processor with ubuntu?
[12:12] <thomas> hi everyone. I have problems with the dri. could someone help me
[12:13] <oFF-beAt> if i launch the program in terminal.. mercury gives me a blank window.. titles "error"
[12:13] <oFF-beAt> and the terminal output is fidinding the library
[12:14] <Jowi> thomas, you better ask a more specific question. who will answer depends on what hardware you have probably.
[12:14] <mneptok> oFF-beAt: i have no experience with aMSN. what about Frostwire? how are you launching it?
[12:15] <oFF-beAt> with frostwire i get a whole bunch of errors.. mostly classes not found
[12:15] <thomas> Jowi, ok i have installed the proprietary driver from ATI and tryed to start the x server but when i do glxinfo it says no direct rendering i have a ATI X700
[12:15] <kleftisx> what i must put in my sudo list so can install aMSN ?
[12:16] <oFF-beAt> i think i need to set class path
[12:16] <oFF-beAt> but i dunno how
[12:18] <ernz> Hello, I am using a gb keyboard, with xorg set to gb keys, can someone tell me how I can insert special letters like, for example, a french 'e' with an accent above it.
[12:19] <Iphigenia> Hi: Is there a terminal command to tell which version of Ubuntu is being used?
[12:20] <Jowi> Iphigenia, lsb_release -a
[12:20] <hisham_> hey
[12:20] <hisham_> anyone around
[12:20] <hisham_> need some help
[12:21] <chemaja> hisham_: just ask.
[12:21] <hisham_> okay
[12:22] <hisham_> i got ubunu installed on a 80gb driv
[12:22] <hisham_> now i want to install windows
[12:22] <hisham_> when i get through the first setup phaze
[12:22] <hisham_> GRUB wont let me go on
[12:22] <hisham_> it only displays linux in the list
[12:23] <hisham_> what do i do?
[12:23] <SS2> hisham_: you will have to ad windows to youre menu.lst
[12:23] <Daverocks> hisham_: have you installed windows yet?
[12:23] <hisham_> how to d?
[12:23] <hisham_> not yet
[12:23] <Daverocks> hisham_: you won't be able to add anything working to grub until you've installed windows
[12:23] <hisham_> if it wasnt for grub id have linux and windows setup on list
[12:24] <Daverocks> hisham_: it's easier to install windows first, THEN ubuntu. when you come to install windows, it'll overwrite GRUB
[12:24] <hisham_> well
[12:24] <hisham_> i tried installing windows
[12:24] <SS2> Daverocks: wait, you can install windows afterwards
[12:24] <hisham_> how
[12:24] <SS2> that is no problem, you just have to recover youre grub
[12:25] <Daverocks> SS2: you can, but the windows installer destroys the MBR
[12:25] <Daverocks> SS2: yeah, and recovering grub isn't extremely easy
[12:25] <hisham_> i dont want grub
[12:25] <SS2> doesn't matter. with the ubuntu-live-cd and chroot you can recover it easily
[12:25] <hisham_> can i load linux from the normal boot menu
[12:25] <SS2> oh yes ;)
[12:25] <Narkoleptic> heya
[12:25] <dromer> hmm, apperantly my camera now also doesn't automount over usb (it used to before)
[12:26] <SS2> !grub
[12:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:26] <SS2> hisham_: look up
[12:26] <aalhamad> how do i right this correctly ( sudo get-aps install GTK_Plus) ??
[12:26] <aalhamad> how do i wright this correctly ( sudo get-aps install GTK_Plus) ??
[12:26] <dromer> !usb
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <hisham_> SS2, what do i do
[12:27] <adamonline45> aalhamad: I'd try "sudo apt-get install GTK_Plus
[12:28] <SS2> hisham_: err install windows? but you will need some free space for a primary partition
[12:28] <viviersf> what is dapper-proposed etc ? first time i see those repositories
[12:28] <adamonline45> aalhamad: or "sudo apt-get install gtk_plus"
[12:28] <aalhamad> thanks
[12:28] <adamonline45> aalhamad: yw
[12:28] <hisham_> i have a fat32 partition
[12:28] <hisham_> for windows
[12:28] <aalhamad> its not there
[12:29] <aalhamad> E: Couldn't find package gtk_Plus
[12:30] <hisham_> but SS2 , i tried installing windows by running winnt.exe from dos
[12:30] <sunnz2> What is the latest version of kernel running on Eddy if one updates regularly?
[12:30] <hisham_> and it copied the files
[12:30] <hisham_> then when it restarts, theres no setup to continue
[12:30] <SS2> whell, I don't have windows anymore. since three years ^^
[12:30] <sunnz2> Umm...
[12:31] <hisham_> lol
[12:31] <sunnz2> Anyone running Eddy here? If so could you post uname -r for me please?
[12:31] <thomas> sunz2, 2.6.17-10-386
[12:31] <sunnz2> I just needed to download the right linux-restrict-modules for another computer
[12:31] <hisham_> okay
[12:31] <hisham_> anyone
[12:32] <thomas> sunnz2, 2.6.17-10-386
[12:32] <hisham_> how do i uninstall gtub
[12:32] <sunnz2> tx thomas
[12:32] <hisham_> grub*
[12:32] <SS2> hisham_: why do you want do to that?
[12:32] <hisham_> cause i cant load the windows installation
[12:32] <Daverocks> hisham_: the windows installer will uninstall grub for you ;)
[12:32] <Daverocks> hisham_: make sure your bios is set to boot from CD first
[12:33] <SS2> hisham_: saying bios to boot first from the cdrom?
[12:33] <hisham_> i am not installing windows from cd
[12:33] <hisham_> its on my harddrive
[12:33] <sunnz2> thomas, so did you update your kernel since you installed Ubuntu?
[12:33] <thomas> sunnz2, yeah
[12:33] <thomas> sunnz2, its not the original kernel
[12:33] <sunnz2> thomas, cool, thanks alot!!!
[12:34] <mneptok> hisham_: fixmbr
[12:34] <SS2> hisham_: whell you can manualy writ the boot options for windows in youre menu.lst
[12:35] <mneptok> hisham_: do you want to erase GRUB and boot only Windows?
[12:35] <SS2> mneptok: grub doesn't boot windows
[12:35] <hisham_> no
[12:35] <SS2> the windows options are missing
[12:35] <hisham_> how do i write the boot options
[12:35] <hisham_> to menu.lst
[12:35] <hisham_> where is t
[12:35] <hisham_> and what do i edit
[12:35] <mneptok> hisham_: so you want to boot both Ubuntu and Windows from GRUB?
[12:36] <SS2> hisham_: wait, ill paste a menu.lst from a pc
[12:36] <hisham_> yeah
[12:36] <mneptok> SS2: please don't :)
[12:36] <hisham_> lol
[12:36] <hisham_> private..
[12:36] <SS2> why not? :)
[12:36] <mneptok> SS2: menu.lst is not something you can just copy between machines.
[12:37] <mneptok> hisham_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[12:37] <SS2> mneptok: I know, but atleast he will have an example how it looks like
[12:37] <sunnz2> Just copy the Windows section for him.
[12:37] <mneptok> SS2: what good is an example if it's wrong? ;)
[12:38] <sunnz2> So he doesn't mess up the Linux part.
[12:38] <SS3> hisham_: have a look at: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6965/
[12:38] <SS2> mneptok: you can change it
[12:38] <mneptok> hisham_: do NOT copy any of that
[12:38] <dromer> !mount
[12:38] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:38] <SS2> hisham_: yes, be carefull with that now
[12:38] <dromer> !fstab
[12:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:38] <SS2> you will first need to find out youre hd(0,*) number and type. what else don't know
[12:39] <mneptok> SS2: what replaces (hd0,2) for hisham_ ?
[12:39] <hisham_> hdc1
[12:39] <dromer> !DiskMounter
[12:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:39] <hisham_> thats the fat32 i want windows on
[12:39] <mneptok> hisham_: incorrect
[12:39] <dromer> !fuse
[12:39] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:39] <hisham_> and the only fat32 partition on the drive
[12:39] <SS2> hisham_: do you have a hda*?
[12:39] <mneptok> hisham_: what version of Windows?
[12:39] <SS2> or sda*
[12:39] <hisham_> whats a hda?
[12:39] <hisham_> xp
[12:39] <incorrect> mneptok, yes?
[12:40] <mneptok> hisham_: you cannot install XP on FAT32
[12:40] <SS2> no, do you have more than one hdd?
[12:40] <incorrect> oh sorry :)
[12:40] <hisham_> no
[12:40] <hisham_> 1 hd
[12:40] <SS2> that is?
[12:40] <hisham_> a wd 80 gb
[12:40] <mneptok> SS2: please. just STOP.
[12:40] <incorrect> SS2, maybe he has /dev/i2o/hdX
[12:40] <SS2> ...
[12:41] <mjr> was there a screenshot series of the edgy desktop installer somewhere?
[12:41] <incorrect> don't forget those lovely adapetc i20 scsi controllers
[12:41] <SS2> maybe somebody else will know a better solution here ;)
[12:41] <mneptok> SS2: he has a drive with 18 partitions. 4 primary, 14 logical. what replaces (hd0,2)?
[12:41] <mneptok> thought so. :)
[12:42] <hisham_> i have a 80 gb
[12:42] <hisham_> 10 gb fat32
[12:42] <mneptok> it is a REALLY bad idea to start copying/pasting menu.lst
[12:42] <mneptok> REALLY bad
[12:42] <mneptok> hisham_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[12:42] <hisham_> nothing happens
[12:43] <hisham_> okay
[12:43] <hisham_> heres the given
[12:43] <hisham_> i have a 80 gb hdd
[12:43] <hisham_> with 10 gb fat32 part..
[12:43] <SS2> hisham_: paste youre fstab somewere
[12:43] <hisham_> and a 5gb linux partition
[12:43] <hisham_> okay
[12:44] <hisham_> fstab?
[12:44] <hisham_> lol
[12:44] <dds_> Guys can anyone tell how can i mount a newley created patition , because Ubuntu cant see it and i cant find this partition anywhere.
[12:45] <SS2> mneptok: I think pasting fstab is better than explaining. there you can see what type of hdd that is (or almost)
[12:45] <frogzoo> dds_: disk drive? ide/sata or usb?
[12:45] <dds_> sata sorry i frgot to tell
[12:45] <hisham_> paste here?
[12:45] <dromer> !paste | hisham_
[12:45] <ubotu> hisham_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:46] <mneptok> SS2: fstab has no relation to GRUB drive IDs
[12:46] <frogzoo> dds_: for x in a b c d ; do fdisk -l /dev/sd$x ; done
[12:46] <frogzoo> dds_: for x in a b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd$x ; done
[12:47] <dds_> frogzoo: thank you
[12:47] <hisham_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2609/
[12:47] <usambara> hallo
[12:49] <SS2> has somebody tried to compile hipo? or ipod-sharp? has some kind of dependencie like: mdassembler. <--- what is that?
[12:49] <hisham_> so?
[12:49] <SS2> mneptok: youre right, I'll stop with that :)
[12:50] <aalhamad> i've tried to play an avi format file but it say you need to get plugin..
[12:50] <aalhamad> Mplayer
[12:50] <SS2> !Codecs aalhamad
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Codecs aalhamad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <SS2> ...
[12:50] <hisham_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2609/
[12:51] <SS2> aalhamad: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <hisham_> helloo??
[12:54] <hisham_> mneptok, you there?
[12:54] <highvoltage> what version of NFS server is installed with ubuntu? NFS 3 or NFS 4?
[12:54] <mykoo1> if I typed mkdr ~/scr   and I meant to mkdr ~/src, how can I change it?
[12:54] <frogzoo> highvoltage: apt-cache search nfs
[12:54] <Daverocks> mykilx: mv ~/scr ~/src
[12:55] <Daverocks> oops
[12:55] <Daverocks> mykoo1: mv ~/scr ~/src
[12:55] <mykoo1> thanks dave you rock
[12:56] <hisham_> C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT = "Windows XP Installation/Upgrade"
[12:56] <SurfnKid> hi
[12:56] <hisham_> thats the setup place
[12:56] <SurfnKid> how do i follow a tcp stream?
[12:56] <SurfnKid> file by file
[12:56] <SurfnKid> or udp stream
[12:56] <hisham_> how do i add that to menu.lst
[12:56] <leshaste> aalhamad: hi
[12:57] <frogzoo> highvoltage: hmm.. doesn't seem to answer your question
[12:57] <aalhamad> hi
[12:57] <frogzoo> SurfnKid: wireshark can follow a stream
[12:58] <SurfnKid> frogzoo, is it on the ubuntu distro
[12:58] <frogzoo> SurfnKid: yep
[12:58] <SurfnKid> wikkid thx :)
[12:58] <frogzoo> SurfnKid: you mean the cd?
[12:58] <frogzoo> not the cd, the repos
[12:58] <SurfnKid> ah right
[12:59] <SurfnKid> might have to update the sources.list
[01:00] <usambara> bye
[01:00] <hisham_> hey
[01:00] <hisham_> ANYONE?
[01:01] <NET||abuse> hey, how can i mount a remote file system over ssh?
[01:01] <jin> hi
[01:01] <jin> any one here in Europe with 10mbps or higher connection speed?
[01:01] <NET||abuse> i need to see where 29GB is being used up on a machine,,
[01:01] <SurfnKid> frogzoo, ethereal = wireshark i see
[01:01] <NET||abuse> so was going to mount the drive remotely and run filelight on it
[01:03] <frogzoo> SurfnKid: yep
[01:04] <SurfnKid> i didnt find it in the distro, did u dl the source instead?
[01:04] <jin> any one here with 10mbps or higher connection speed?
[01:05] <SurfnKid> jin, i wish
[01:06] <NET||abuse> hi guys,, just looking to wipe a directories content which has 5million files,, all error messages from postfix :( i've got a borkd config and i can't debug it with so much in that direcotry
[01:06] <NET||abuse> i was gonna try xargs ls -1 | rm -
[01:06] <NET||abuse> but i'm not sure i have the command right,, and i want to be sure before i go running that
[01:07] <jin> SurfnKid, lol, you will get it someday
[01:07] <SurfnKid> yey
[01:07] <sam_> what are the chances that linux is not fully removed from the memory on reboot ?
[01:07] <jin> but even if you have 10mbps, you can't take full advantage of it
[01:08] <jin> there aren't many sites that push 10mbps constantly
[01:08] <jin> I mean for a single person
[01:09] <sam_> help; warm boot trubble !
[01:09] <highvoltage> frogzoo: I've noticed :/
[01:10] <niru> what is the command for creating md5sum
[01:11] <frogzoo> sam_: it's not linux maybe, but various subsystems memory can persist
[01:11] <sam_> frogzoo explain
[01:12] <frogzoo> sam_: all your various cards have memory on them, which a warm boot may not reset
[01:13] <sam_> ok what do i do to reset them when linux shuts down ?
[01:13] <frogzoo> sam_: only way to be 100% g'teed is turn the power of
[01:13] <sam_> there is not some kind of command ?
[01:13] <frogzoo> sam_: but perhaps if we knew what your problem was?
[01:14] <sam_> if the machine is rebooted to windows it locks up
[01:14] <Gorlis1> Hi
[01:14] <sam_> it doesn't do that if it's rebooted from windows to windows or to linux
[01:15] <sam_> it doesn't lock up on cold starts
[01:15] <Gorlis1> Quick question :p - is their any program equivalent to MS Paint in Linux ?? not Gimp, Pixel or Kritia :)
[01:15] <Hirvinen> Gorlis1: At least Kolourpaint.
[01:15] <sjoerd> sam_: that just means windows doesn't cope with the state of the hardware that linux apparently leaves it in.. There is nothing you can do about that
[01:15] <sam_> but every time it's rebooted from linux to windows it hangs
[01:15] <Klanticus> Gorlis1: tuxpaint
[01:15] <Gorlis1> thanks
[01:15] <Gorlis1> will take a look at both
[01:15] <sam_> sjoerd that's not acceptable
[01:16] <sjoerd> sam_: then ask Microsoft to fix their drivers
[01:16] <sam_> if it was a ms problem i would
[01:16] <sam_> it's linux leaving the machine in a "dirty" state.
[01:17] <nnn> Hi, how change start page in konqueror?
[01:17] <illusia> Gorlis1, mtPaint ?
[01:17] <rjp1968> hello all, very simple quick Q. How do I run an installation program (or any program) in a bash shell
[01:18] <Klanticus> may someone help me? X doesn't start at boot time. I get a module version mismatch. (I'm using the nvidia driver). However, if I do rmmod nvidia and then modprobe nvidia, It runs nicely
[01:18] <sam_> what must be done to fix linux so that it doesn't do this ?
[01:18] <Gorlis1> KolourPaint did the job great!
[01:18] <Gorlis1>  :) thanks
[01:18] <sjoerd> sam_: why do you think it leaves your hw dirty ?
[01:19] <rjp1968> I have a file installation-program.bin in my home folder and I want to run it in the best way poss. Any advice? Do I jus type its name?
[01:19] <sjoerd> The windows drivers should be able to initialize the hw correctly regardless of the state their in, if they can't it's their problem
[01:19] <sam_> because i don't believe that it's dirty on cold start sjoerd ?
[01:19] <Klanticus> rjp1968: type cd ~
[01:20] <Klanticus> rjp1968: then "./ installation...."
[01:20] <sam_> sjoerd no. it's my problem.  and i'd like to fix it.
[01:20] <Klanticus> rjp1968: ops.. without the space
[01:20] <sjoerd> sam_: with a cold start the state might be different then what whatever operating systems leaves it in when you do a hot restart
[01:20] <sjoerd> sam_: you can't unless you fix your windows
[01:21] <xzk> hey guys, Im trying to figure out how to either.. uninstall linux or make the partition size smaller so that I will have more space available in winXP :(  I don't really want to do it but when I installed ubuntu to try it out.. I ended up not using it as much as I had hoped.. Im taking computer science courses and we use msvc++ and I also have a prob. with my laptop not lasting as long in ubuntu as it does in winXP
[01:21] <sam_> i'll fix linux. thanks just the same.
[01:21] <rjp1968> thanks Klanticus, everyone assumes you'll know that and the bash man page is very long!
[01:22] <Klanticus> rjp1968: if it doesn't work, try "chmod +x installation..."
[01:22] <Klanticus> rjp1968: this wil set the file as executable
[01:22] <xzk> if anyone could give me a hand with that I would greatly appreciate it :)
[01:22] <j0sh0> hi guys can anyone let me know how to make my wireless setting load properly at startup? In my interfaces file, I've got hot-pluggable yadda yadda but when ubuntu starts the adapter wont connect. All is need to edit is iwconfig channel 6, iwpriv authmode 2, and dhclient....
[01:23] <Klanticus> xzk: I think you can use gparted to resize partitions
[01:23] <rjp1968> Klanticus, it didn't work. Trying chmod now
[01:24] <JaXxon> Hi, can anyone help me with where the config setting for gnome-screensaver-preferences is stored?
[01:24] <xzk> Klanticus: where can I find gparted - and also, is the laptop battery not lasting as long as it does in winXP normal or is there anything I can do about that?
[01:24] <Klanticus> xzk: apt-get install gparted
[01:24] <xzk> ty
[01:24] <JaXxon> Klanticus do you know much about the configuration of the screensaver?
[01:25] <xzk> does anyone know what the latest version of gparted is?
[01:25] <Klanticus> xzk: there is a program to adjust the processor speed, making the battery last longer
[01:26] <Klanticus> xzk: but I can't remember now
[01:26] <dds_> xzk: 0.2.5
[01:26] <rjp1968> Klanticus, that worked thanks. Installer is running
[01:26] <xzk> Klanticus: I read something about the ubuntu laptop version on the ubuntu forums last night but I never could figure out how to get to the laptop settings or laptop mode that they were talking about
[01:27] <xzk> apparently ubuntu has a desktop mode and laptop mode or something ?
[01:27] <Klanticus> JaXxon: What do you wanna do with the screensaver? just selecting someone?
[01:27] <JaXxon> Klanticus i have screwed something up and when my screen saver kicks in the xserver crashes
[01:27] <JaXxon> also if i run gnome-screensaver-preferences the server crashes
[01:28] <JaXxon> so i want to manually edit the config
[01:28] <Klanticus> JaXxon: uhh.... wait a moment
[01:28] <JaXxon> and turn of the screen saver until i fix the prob
[01:28] <JaXxon> k
[01:28] <frogzoo> Klanticus: yes, cpufreq-selector - works best if you make it setuid
[01:29] <xzk> Klanticus: trying to do apt-get install gparted and this get msg from terminal : E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:29] <xzk> ead: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:29] <xzk> adam@adam-laptop:~$
[01:29] <frogzoo> Klanticus: also, be sure in gnome power manager to select save power on battery
[01:29] <JaXxon> xzk you are not root or you have two instances of apt going
[01:29] <MuffY> my Wireless internet adapter isn recognised by ubuntu (edgy)
[01:29] <Klanticus> xzk: sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:29] <JaXxon> Is synaptic running
[01:30] <xzk> dur
[01:30] <xzk> ty
[01:30] <JaXxon> Klanticus any idea on screensaver config file?
[01:30] <xzk> I swear I get more help in this channel than ive ever gotten anywhere since Ive been messing with pcs since 1997
[01:30] <Klanticus> JaXxon: not yet
[01:30] <JaXxon> k
[01:31] <xzk> how do I make myself root
[01:31] <JaXxon> xyz sudo
[01:31] <Klanticus> xzk: sudo su
[01:31] <JaXxon> sudo apt-get install ....
[01:31] <MuffY> has anyone had trouble with ubuntu failing to even *detect* your wireless internet card?
[01:31] <MuffY> it just doesn show up in the pci devices
[01:31] <xzk> MuffY: yeah it's common
[01:32] <xzk> MuffY: your wifi card is broadcom?
[01:32] <frogzoo> Klanticus: you also need to edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[01:32] <MuffY> xzk: no, it a sitecom
[01:32] <mwe> sudo -i is the recommended way instead of sudo su
[01:32] <Klanticus> frogzoo: uhh thanks vey much..
[01:32] <szerman> vxcgfd
[01:33] <cmt^^> KenSentMe - you here?
[01:33] <MuffY> xzk: so, how do i make it appear =D
[01:33] <frogzoo> Klanticus: np
[01:33] <xzk> is linux always going to be based around memorizing console commands for the terminal or are they looking to make that more user friendly in the future.. I dont have a prob with it I just wish I had a quick reference to help me remember all of it haha
[01:34] <JaXxon> frogzoo: know much about gnome-screensaver-preferences
[01:34] <MuffY> xzk: ie got the drivers for the thing (though compiling them will be a pain), but installing drivers for a device that not there seems a bit...wasting my\ time
[01:34] <xzk> MuffY: there is a lot of good tutorials on the ubuntu forum - thats how I got mine to work
[01:34] <MuffY> hm
[01:34] <xzk> hang in
[01:34] <xzk> on*
[01:34] <MuffY> lol
[01:35] <xzk> there is a thing you will have to d/l to make it work since linux doesnt recognize yours
[01:35] <locus_> does linux ubuntu recognize usb mp3 players?
[01:35] <xzk> its called. ahhhh whats it called
[01:35] <MuffY> i did a LOT of forum searches, i found a few with my model in it, but no solutions
[01:35] <xzk> someone help me remember
[01:35] <MuffY> the wrapper thing?
[01:35] <xzk> YES
[01:35] <MuffY> yay
[01:36] <Klanticus> frogzoo: do you know where ubuntu stores kernel modules?
[01:36] <locus_> i plugged one in and nothing came up. any advice?
[01:36] <Klanticus> frogzoo: I think there are two versions of the nvidia driver here
[01:36] <NET||abuse> hi guys,, what's the deal with pptp vpn tunnel from my laptop to a microsoft server in my office?
[01:36] <frogzoo> Klanticus: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/
[01:36] <NET||abuse> i have it all working (windows clients can login,, )
[01:37] <MuffY> locus_: try looking in /dev/bus
[01:37] <Klanticus> frogzoo: thanks. may I just remove it?
[01:37] <NET||abuse> now i see in nm-applet there's a "configure vpn" business larking around.. does it do anything
[01:37] <locus_> ok
[01:37] <NET||abuse> i've configured for the office,, but i don't see anywhere to "connect"
[01:37] <frogzoo> Klanticus: I really don't know
[01:37] <NET||abuse> what's the tool i need??
[01:37] <Klanticus> frogzoo: ok.. I'll try
[01:38] <MuffY> locus_: no wait, that wont help, try /media instead
[01:38] <MuffY> xzk: so i have to find some topics on installind the ndiswrapper or how it called and then itl probably be solved?
[01:39] <locus_> ok
[01:40] <MuffY> locus_: found it?
[01:40] <LinTux> how do I install Lamp and where do I download it
[01:41] <locus_> nothing in media :(
[01:41] <MuffY> locus_: sorry mate, thats all i know about uisb devices (still a newbie ;))
[01:41] <locus_> same here
[01:42] <locus_> can't find anything on them in documentation
[01:42] <jrib> !lamp | LinTux
[01:42] <ubotu> LinTux: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:42] <MuffY> locus_: what brand and model is it?
[01:42] <locus_> seltronic
[01:42] <MuffY> model number?
[01:43] <MuffY> seltronic?
[01:43] <locus_> no idea on both. its not mine
[01:44] <MuffY> haha
[01:44] <locus_> :)
[01:44] <BisTRo> slm arkadaslar
[01:44] <BisTRo> nas0131ls0131n0131z
[01:44] <BisTRo> muahahahaha
[01:45] <MuffY> very unknown model, even google cant find a thing on it
[01:45] <BisTRo> ne diyon lan sen yarrag0131m
[01:45] <BisTRo> am0131na korum senn
[01:45] <BisTRo> bok beyinli
[01:45] <BisTRo> Muffy
[01:45] <BisTRo> senn am0131na koyum olum ben
[01:46] <locus_> try seltronics
[01:46] <BisTRo> adam m0131 oldunuz lan 015ferefsizler
[01:46] <MuffY> bisrto, yes?
[01:46] <MuffY> BisTRo: yes?
[01:46] <BisTRo> Muffy senn am0131na koyum olum ben
[01:46] <MuffY> :/
[01:47] <BisTRo> ne var lan gtlek
[01:47] <MuffY> that looks like turkish or something
[01:47] <BisTRo> ee
[01:47] <MuffY> could you please try to talk english?
[01:47] <erUSUL> BisTRo: stop, english only channel
[01:47] <BisTRo> asd
[01:47] <BisTRo> oke
[01:47] <BisTRo> I fuck you
[01:48] <MuffY> we ban you =)
[01:48] <BisTRo> oke
[01:48] <BisTRo> :D
[01:48] <BisTRo> byy
[01:48] <MuffY> aww, no ops in the room  =(
[01:48] <MuffY> well, gtg
[01:52] <Khmar> Hello everyone.
[01:53] <Khmar> I'm having some trouble booting off a live CD on a machine I recently bought.
[01:54] <Khmar> I'm not sure what the problem is but it could be because the system is unable to recognise the DVD drive.
[01:54] <Khmar> Any suggestions?
[01:54] <Khmar> Or tips on how to look around?
[01:54] <FelipeBare> Khmar, have you ever seen the boot sequence ?
[01:55] <Khmar> Ever seen?
[01:55] <Khmar> i see some "unable to mount" messages right after "Booting the kernel"
[01:55] <Khmar> Should I pass some parameter to get more verbose messages?
[01:56] <Gosha> if i have a ntfs ex. hd with two partiotions ( 1 with the most of the size and the other one with some data files or something ), can i like .. split the big partition and format the empty one to fat32, or something and then move all the files there, and format the ntfs and then have a fully fat32 ex.hd?
[01:57] <FelipeBare> Khmar, I dont think so, unless you have some different hardware or some problem with graphic mode
[01:57] <xzk> I think my internet died
[01:57] <Gosha> as in, is it possible at all to split without formatting it completely?
[01:58] <romedog>  if your internet died you would not be on irc
[01:58] <Khmar> FelipeBare,  The graphic mode is screwed thanks to a card problem. :)
[01:58] <romedog> Is it a layer 8 problem
[01:58] <Khmar> However, I've tried this CD with 2 different DVD drives and both fail.
[01:58] <Khmar> So I'm guessing that's the motherboard or some connection screw up.
[01:58] <Khmar> However, Windows XP runs fine on it.
[01:58] <FelipeBare> :)
[01:58] <Khmar> So.. it must be something I can fix with some help.
[01:59] <battlesquid> i'm trying to install a font by dragging the font file from my home folder into the files:/// folder, but when i drop it, nothing happens... the procedure was described here : https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/fonts.html
[01:59] <Khmar> battlesquid, Shouldn't that be fonts:/// folder?
[01:59] <battlesquid> yes, i typed wrong here
[02:00] <Khmar> All the problems I've seen so far were post installation. I can't even get my system to boot with Linux. :(
[02:00] <jrib> battlesquid: does the font now exist in ~/.fonts?
[02:00] <Khmar> battlesquid, After you drag/drop the fonts, try opening GIMP or something to see if you can select the font.
[02:00] <battlesquid> jrib, no, should it?
[02:00] <jrib> battlesquid: yeah
[02:00] <vitriol> anybody know what the best filesystem would beon an external hd  to use to back up stuff on a windows box and ubuntu?
[02:01] <vitriol> i tried fat32 but it doesn't like my files that are larger than 4gb
[02:01] <jrib> vitriol: well you could use ext3
[02:01] <battlesquid> Khmar, i tried closing and repoening the fonts:/// location in a file browser, but the fonts did not appear
[02:01] <peterlyberth> Why not ntfs?
[02:01] <peterlyberth> then use fuse on Ubuntu?
[02:01] <Gosha> fuse is troublesome!
[02:01] <vitriol> peterlyberth: can ntfs be written to safely on linux?
[02:01] <tbf> how can i install maildrop without installing a complete mail server?
[02:01] <Klanticus> peterlyberth: use ext3
[02:01] <peterlyberth> Hmm i think there is a easy guide
[02:01] <Gosha> it ruined two of my anime series!
[02:01] <vitriol> i've never heard of fuse till just now
[02:01] <DBFT> hey - what is the extention for a shell script and how do i execute it?
[02:02] <Klanticus> peterlyberth: and then install the driver for windows
[02:02] <Khmar> So, any ideas on how I can figure this out?
[02:02] <Khmar> I'm staring at a (initramfs) prompt right now. :(
[02:02] <frogzoo> !fuse | vitriol
[02:02] <ubotu> vitriol: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:02] <jrib> DBFT: any you want.  Usually .sh.  Execute by doing 'sh foo.sh' or './foo.sh' in the right directory.  The latter requires the file to have executable permissions
[02:02] <battlesquid> jrib, i just checked and it seems the fonts were added to ~/.fonts  after i dragged them to the fonts:/// window
[02:03] <jrib> battlesquid: ok, then restart your program and/or run 'fc-cache'
[02:03] <erUSUL> battlesquid: copy the ttf file to ~/.fonts/
[02:03] <xzk> hmmm.. anyone even heard of this? I installed GParted.. and now I can't connect to my own Wifi.. using a neighbors or somebodies now - kind of strange
[02:04] <xzk> ever*
[02:04] <DBFT> Hmm, I have a lot of directories containing lots of pictures, is there anything that will go through them all and number them? (Id assume a shell script would do that?)
[02:04] <Khmar> DBFT, Number?
[02:04] <DBFT> it should be like 01.jpg 02.png (keep the extention if possible)
[02:04] <Khmar> DBFT, shell script would do it I think.
[02:05] <DBFT> hmm - do you know of any that would do it?
[02:05] <battlesquid> jrib, it seems the TTF variant of the font now shows up in my font list, which is good. however the font is sort of blurry/antialiased and it shouldn't be that in this context
[02:05] <IamEthos> do any default entries get inserted in hosts.allow or hosts.deny when you install sshd in Ubuntu?
[02:05] <Khmar> DBFT, Nope. But it's not too hard to write one methinks.
[02:06] <xzk> anyone ever used GParted? I installed it but it doesnt seem to be the same thing I saw on a website.. the one I saw was like.. a CD version that had its own GUI that you boot into on startup.. not like this one that installed into ubuntu
[02:06] <Khmar> Okay... So I'm here with an unrecognised DVD drive and I can't boot the LiveCD. Any suggestions?
[02:06] <Jowi> IamEthos, no
[02:06] <jrib> DBFT: i=0; for file in *; do echo mv $file $i.jpg; i=$((i+1)); done       get rid of the "echo" if you want it to actually execute the renaming
[02:07] <jrib> DBFT: oops, didn't see they had different extensions, one sec
[02:07] <DBFT> It is when its your second day on linux ;)
[02:07] <DBFT> i'll look it up
[02:07] <DBFT> thanks :)
[02:07] <peterlyberth> Is fuse still unsafe to use for ntfs?? I thought they had reached a point where i s was stable?
[02:07] <IamEthos> Jowi, hmm. so I should be able to ssh in from any IP by default, right?
[02:08] <DBFT> generally they have jpg...
[02:08] <battlesquid> jrib, never mind i figured it out. thanks for your help
[02:08] <jrib> DBFT: i=0; for file in *; do echo mv $file $i.${file##.}; i=$((i+1)); done   that should work
[02:08] <Gosha> it's not stable!
[02:08] <IamEthos> I'm trying to get my mom to set up sshd on Ubuntu without a monitor
[02:08] <jrib> battlesquid: what was the problem?
[02:08] <IamEthos> so that I can repair my arch install
[02:08] <Gosha> it ruined my ntfs system!
[02:08] <battlesquid> jrib, antialiasing
[02:08] <peterlyberth> Damn
[02:08] <jrib> battlesquid: ah
[02:08] <DBFT> lets try it :D
[02:08] <IamEthos> Gosha, no, you shouldn't have tried to mess with an NTFS system
[02:08] <peterlyberth> Then use xt3 and a windows program ifsdrive(or write)
[02:09] <Gosha> .. see? it's not safe.
[02:09] <Jowi> IamEthos, yes. "sudo netstat -ntlp" to see if it is listening and on what port
[02:09] <peterlyberth> ext3 ofcourse
[02:09] <IamEthos> so it seems like my computer is connected to the network, and that the port is forwarding properly
[02:09] <holyduck> if you need to share media betwen linux and windoze, just use a fat32 partion
[02:09] <IamEthos> Jowi, can't view screen output
[02:09] <DBFT> rename.sh: 2: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "done")
[02:09] <Gosha> i just tried to move my files and it copied them .. and then i deleted the old ones and both got deleted!
[02:09] <IamEthos> no monitor
[02:10] <jrib> DBFT: erm, made a type, final one I promise: i=0; for file in *; do echo mv $file $i.${file##*.}; i=$((i+1)); done
[02:10] <IamEthos> when you do apt-get install, does it require you to answer any questions besides y (return)
[02:10] <holyduck> IamEthos, i never seen anything but y
[02:11] <DBFT> mv 01.jpg 0.jpg
[02:11] <IamEthos> that's what I thought too
[02:11] <DBFT> rename.sh: 1: arith: syntax error: "i+1"
[02:11] <DBFT> lol :p
[02:11] <Jowi> IamEthos, so put in the ipaddress and the portnumber in a browser. for example http://111.222.333.444:22  you should see "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1" or something in the browser window
[02:11] <NET||abuse> Can anyone help me setup vpn to my office here?? i need to telnet from the server in work to test a mailserver
[02:11] <IamEthos> so I can't figure out where she could have gone wrong.
[02:11] <jrib> DBFT: hmm works here
[02:11] <IamEthos> firefox has canceled my request
[02:12] <IamEthos> can I make it not do that?
[02:12] <jrib> DBFT: are you running it in dash or seomthing?
[02:12] <DBFT> really? :|
[02:12] <Khmar> In the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" stage, I get a "No common CD-ROM driver was detected" message.
[02:12] <DBFT> in dash? (n00b alert)
[02:12] <IamEthos> hmm
[02:12] <jrib> DBFT: are you actually putting it in a file and doing sh foo.sh or just entering that command in one line?
[02:12] <IamEthos> konqueror said "Could not connect to host on port 22."
[02:12] <DBFT> putting it in a file
[02:12] <IamEthos> when I try sshing, it says connection refused
[02:13] <host`> couldn't connect to me?
[02:13] <DBFT> i=0; for file in *; do echo mv $file $i.${file##*.}; i=$((i+1)); done
[02:13] <DBFT> thats what I have
[02:13] <IamEthos> but the server is at least responding
[02:13] <DBFT> the first file works, its when it needs to add one that bugs
[02:13] <jrib> DBFT: k that i=$((i+1)) thing is probably not standard.  Use bash foo.sh or just put that on a line and press enter
[02:13] <IamEthos> well
[02:13] <IamEthos> to say that it won't respond
[02:13] <IamEthos> what could possibly cause sshd to not respond.
[02:14] <DBFT> to test, I did: i=$((i+1)); echo $i
[02:14] <IamEthos> if no changes have been made to hosts.allow
[02:14] <DBFT> and it worked :|
[02:14] <holyduck> IamEthos maybe it just hates you?
[02:14] <jrib> DBFT: yes, but when you put it in a file, sh is dash.  You are running in bash though
[02:14] <DBFT> oh!
[02:14] <DBFT> so just writing it on the line works :)
[02:15] <DBFT> thank ill do that now :P
[02:15] <jrib> DBFT: yeah
[02:15] <DBFT> thanks man :)
[02:15] <Jowi> IamEthos, what aoubt running a nmap on that ip to see
[02:15] <Asl[a] n> Hi, i've got libmad installed- but can't use rythmbox to play mp3s
[02:15] <Asl[a] n> how come?
[02:16] <Asl[a] n> got gstreamer too
[02:17] <IamEthos> check out my script for getting sshd running from an ubuntu liveCD blind: http://pastebin.ca/325635
[02:17] <IamEthos> let me know if you see any errors
[02:19] <IdleOne> !mp3 | Asl[a] n
[02:19] <ubotu> Asl[a] n: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <jrib> DBFT: in case you care, the error was i should have been $i
[02:19] <DBFT> :)
[02:19] <IamEthos> has anyone looked at that?
[02:19] <DBFT> im now trying to change it so if its a .db file it deletes it (thumbs.db :@ lol)
[02:19] <IamEthos> it's not a script like a shell script
[02:19] <DBFT> whats the delete command?
[02:20] <IamEthos> but a script like something someone can read and type in without seeing a monitor
[02:20] <host`> .calc 456*.6
[02:20] <jrib> DBFT: rm
[02:20] <jrib> !cli | DBFT
[02:20] <ubotu> DBFT: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:23] <DBFT> thanks jrib , great help
[02:23] <fleischwurst> OKAY PEOPLE
[02:23] <fleischwurst> SERIOUSLY, FOLLOW THE DOTTED LINE: _ _ _
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[02:23] <IdleOne> !Op
[02:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:23] <jrib> !ops
[02:23] <fleischwurst>    \ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SUCK COCK
[02:24] <ubuntu> hello
[02:24] <ubuntu> is anybody there?
[02:24] <IdleOne> heya
[02:24] <ubuntu> im new user of ubuntu
[02:24] <IdleOne> welcome
[02:25] <ubuntu> where can i find IRC about football?
[02:25] <IdleOne> hmmm good question
[02:26] <bronze_0_1> #sand
[02:26] <host`> hmm
[02:26] <freakynl> !klips
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <IdleOne> ubuntu: this network ( Freenode ) is mainly a help/support network but there are many many other networks where I am sure you could find channels about football
[02:28] <IdleOne> oh well
[02:28] <Oriyen> does anyone know why when I installed Ubuntu that the ieee80211 subsystem didn't install?
[02:29] <Oriyen> I can't install it as well
[02:29] <Jowi> Oriyen, do you mean wireless?
[02:29] <Oriyen> yes
[02:29] <Jowi> !wireless | Oriyen
[02:29] <ubotu> Oriyen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:29] <Oriyen> in order for my drivers to work it needs taht subsystem
[02:32] <Oriyen> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:35] <Oriyen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2613/plain/
[02:35] <abhinay> iam getting 'apt-mirror: invalid config file specified at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 101' error when iam trying , sudo apt-mirror -c apt-mirror
[02:35] <JaXxon> Hi, how can i disable screen saver without using gnome-screensaver-preferences -- ie through config file?
[02:35] <Oriyen> lshw says my network wireless is UNCLAIMED http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2613/plain/
[02:36] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks, anyone uses 3dfx (voodoo 4 4500 pci) ?
[02:37] <DBFT> What do you guys use for MSN Messenger (if you do) I tried aMSN and its great, except it wont load for me any more :(
[02:37] <CodeWarrior_> DBFT: gaim
[02:38] <Oriyen> When it says a device is Unclaimed wht does taht mean
[02:38] <Oriyen> does it mean it has the driver but npt working?
[02:39] <speyer> how do i extract file from tar.gz into one directory ? i dont want to extract the directory from arhive tar.gz only the files
[02:39] <calamari> hi
[02:40] <JaXxon> anyone familiar with gnome-screensaver-preferences
[02:40] <Oriyen> go figure Ubuntu doesn't support Intel wireless cards ><
[02:40] <erUSUL> speyer: use file-roller
[02:40] <Jowi> Oriyen, that card (3945ABG) should be supported from first boot. see if it is enabled in "sudo network-admin"
[02:40] <speyer> erUSUL i have to use in terminal while no root permision to cp all files to specific dir
[02:41] <Oriyen> k
[02:41] <calamari> should I be expecting new logging to be in /var/log?  I'm writing things to the system logs in various categories (NOTICE, INFO, DEBUG), etc but when I grep for them they don't show up in the logs
[02:41] <Oriyen> it is enabled and it "works" it sees ESSIDs but will not connect to any of them
[02:41] <Oriyen> Secured or not
[02:41] <humbolto> ho?
[02:42] <humbolto> how to get NX (freenx) for EDGY?
[02:42] <IdleOne> !freenx
[02:42] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:42] <Oriyen> I tired to install the newest drivers for it from intel but it says it needs the ieee80211 subsyustem installed
[02:43] <Oriyen> so I try to install the subsystem and it errors out
[02:43] <Oriyen> on the make cmd
[02:43] <speyer> whats the cp command to get all the files from one dir to other ? man cp doesnt show me that
[02:43] <Oriyen> so I stumped
[02:43] <DBFT> could anyone recommend some software to burn an iso?
[02:43] <Yancho> is it possible to put the iso on a usb pen drive and install ubuntu from it ? since i don't have a cd drive available ?
[02:43] <Yancho> DBFT nero
[02:43] <Oriyen> Ultra ISO usse it with Wine
[02:43] <IdleOne> cp /fromhere /tohere
[02:43] <grout> when i open up a program in terminal, how can i make it stay open when the term is closed?
[02:44] <andreasw> DBFT, sudo cdrecord foo.iso
[02:44] <jrib> grout: use screen, or nohup.  Or disown the job
[02:44] <IdleOne> DBFT: gnomebaker works good for me . available in universe
[02:44] <grout> jrib: thanks
[02:44] <gb_> hi
[02:45] <DBFT> so many suggestions :p
[02:45] <Oriyen> Jowi - what does it mean when it says its Unclaimed then?
[02:45] <Oriyen> My Broadcom works great and does not have Unclaimed
[02:46] <CanadianMan> hello
[02:46] <Jowi> Oriyen, how did you get that message?
[02:46] <gb_> hi CanadianMan
[02:46] <Oriyen> Jowi - I typed lshw like the guide says to do and scrolled till I found my wireless
[02:47] <Pici> speyer : cp /dir1/* /dir2/
[02:47] <romedog> !lamp
[02:47] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:47] <gb_> romedog,  u working on lamp too?
[02:48] <incorrect> is it possible to compile debs for i386 on amd64?
[02:48] <Jowi> Oriyen, i don't know what unclaimed is.
[02:49] <CanadianMan> i have a question/problem (at least i'm told i do) with my kernel and Module.symvers which is missing
[02:49] <Oriyen> Alright I didlsmod and the driver isn't laoding Im gonna try modprobe
[02:49] <Jowi> Oriyen, probably it means unused. I see it on some serial and ISA slots
[02:50] <Jarpsa> Is Ubuntu light? Does it run in computer that i bought 2000 it was very powerful back then? It runs XP with a very little lag
[02:50] <grout> is there a way i can print man pages?
[02:50] <Pici> Jarpsa : You should be fine
[02:50] <yellow> Jarpsa, i'm running dapper on a pentium 3 933mhz
[02:50] <Oriyen> Jowi - Thats what I think as well
[02:50] <yellow> with 256 mb ram
[02:50] <yellow> whoooooo hooooooooooooooo
[02:50] <Jarpsa> Ok thanks im about to go and install Ubuntu :)
[02:51] <yellow> ^^!
[02:51] <gb_> Jarpsa,  hi
[02:52] <Jarpsa> Hi
[02:52] <LordRedyen_> buenas
[02:52] <Oriyen> it syas I have no wireless devices installed when i rune Wireless Assistant
[02:52] <Oriyen> how can I turn it on
[02:52] <gb_> Jarpsa,  chk out the live cd before installing it
[02:52] <Jarpsa> Ok.
[02:52] <Jarpsa> Thanks for advice
[02:52] <Jowi> Oriyen, try to install "network-manager-gnome" reboot and login again. you will have a new icon in the notification area. maybe that will either A) work or B) give you some more clues on why it doesn't
[02:52] <gb_> yw
[02:53] <Oriyen> Jowi - I used Network Managter and it poped up 3 icons for wired and nothering for wireless
[02:53] <Oriyen> and i only Hve 1 eth 0 lol
[02:53] <gg> hi could somebody help me?
[02:53] <gb_> gg, with?
[02:54] <gg> i`m using ubuntu for 8 mth but now i have a big problem
[02:54] <Oriyen> but Ill give it a shot yesturday the wirelesss simi worked now it doesn't at all
[02:54] <apokryphos> !ask
[02:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <gg> when i try run ubu (now i`m on live cd) when it booting i see:
[02:54] <gg>  Busybox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1-1.3-2 ubuntu3)
[02:54] <gg> Built-in shell (ash)
[02:54] <gg> Enter 'help' ....
[02:54] <gg> /bin/sh : can`t acces tty ; job control turned off
[02:55] <gg> and i really dont know what to do....
[02:57] <gb_> did u do an update or nything?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> gg: what version of ubuntu?
[02:57] <Gorlis1> Afternoon
[02:57] <Pici> gg: Are you running this on an embedded device?
[02:57] <gb_> gnomefreak,  nice name
[02:57] <gb_> :)
[02:58] <gg> gnomefreak: 6.10 EE
[02:58] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:58] <Gorlis1> right slight problem, Gaim and Skype minimise of a small taskbar item - ive accidentally removed that panel,  what is it called so I can re-add?
[02:58] <barnabas> how do i get ./configure to run?
[02:58] <Gorlis1> of - to
[02:58] <gnomefreak> gg: is this first boot after install or have you been using it a while and today decided not to boot
[02:58] <gb_> Gorlis1,  add it in option
[02:58] <gb_> Gorlis1,  gaim option
[02:59] <gnomefreak> barnabas: what app are you trying to compile
[02:59] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[02:59] <faeryNatsuki> i need a little help
[02:59] <barnabas> unsupported one
[02:59] <gnomefreak> barnabas: some apps dont use ./configure
[02:59] <gnomefreak> barnabas: if its python it wont use ./configure things like that please read the readme and install files to find out what you have to do to compile it
[02:59] <Gorlis1> well the problem is ive accidentally removed the system tray?
[02:59] <defrysk> Gorlis1, you mean you removed the notification area ?
[02:59] <mamboadm> does anybody know anything about sympa?
[02:59] <faeryNatsuki> i'm using firefox on spanish envirinment, but it shows me spell correction, or something like that... but for english, not for spanish, where i can configure it?
[02:59] <Gorlis1> yes
[03:00] <Gorlis1> guess so
[03:00] <gg> gnomefreak: i`ve been using this system for 8 mths
[03:00] <gb_> oh ok panel
[03:00] <Oriyen> Jowi- I reset my computer with Network Manager installed
[03:00] <Oriyen> Still nothing
[03:00] <defrysk> Gorlis1, righclick empty spot on panel
[03:00] <defrysk> select add
[03:00] <gnomefreak> gg: was there a kernel update?
[03:00] <defrysk> and then select notification area
[03:00] <Gorlis1> great thanks!
[03:00] <Gorlis1> their you go
[03:01] <Jarpsa> Oh well i go to check out the ubuntu, bye'1
[03:01] <Jarpsa> bye!*
[03:01] <Oriyen> Funny part is I did Administration>Networking and my wired doesn't shwo up but it works
[03:01] <cmt^^> gb_ - Hi! where did you go? :)
[03:01] <mamboadm> !sympa
[03:01] <ubotu> sympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-7 (edgy), package size 1149 kB, installed size 8064 kB
[03:01] <Oriyen> and my wireless shows up band doesn't work ><
[03:01] <faeryNatsuki> mmm
[03:01] <Oriyen> and its enabled
[03:01] <gg> gnomefreak: no, i just purge --remove metacity, and make spt-get upgrade
[03:01] <gg> apt
[03:01] <gb_> cmt^^,  i left, cause u left too
[03:02] <gb_> cmt^^,  any luck ?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> gg: what upgrades were done? normally when you get that its a kernel issue sometimes a initramfs-tools issue
[03:02] <barnabas> heh my fault. i wasn't in the correct directory
[03:02] <barnabas> it's compiling now
[03:02] <Jowi> Oriyen, "cat /proc/modules | grep 3945" give you anything?
[03:03] <Oriyen> one sec ill try it
[03:03] <Toma-> whats a decent app that plays mp3, dvds and movie files? (and that isnt totem)
[03:03] <Gorlis1> can anyone recommend some good FTP software like FileZilla?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> gg: so one of the 2 most likely was updated before you rebooted. unless its just a one time thing than rebooting should help but not likely
[03:03] <Toma-> Gorlis1: gftp?
[03:03] <coNP> Gorlis1: gftp?
[03:03] <gb_> toma mplayer?
[03:03] <Oriyen> just entered to next prompt
[03:03] <Gorlis1> great will take a look thanks ;)
[03:03] <Toma-> mplayer does playlists?
[03:03] <gb_> yes it does have it
[03:03] <gg> gnomefreak: i don`t remember exactly more or less 15 upgrades (vlc, totem, flash, ...) really dont remember
[03:03] <gb_> but u have to bring it up
[03:03] <freakynl> filezilla has a linux version since v3. ubuntu probably doesn't offer it but if you search a lil you might find it
[03:03] <jrib> Toma-: yes, as do vlc and xine-ui, gxine
[03:03] <Toma-> ill give it yet another look
[03:03] <faeryNatsuki> hey, how to configure the spelling feature in firefox in ubuntu?
[03:03] <Toma-> xine is gross :D
[03:03] <gb_> toma u can also try vlc
[03:03] <Oriyen> sudo -i
[03:04] <oFFbeAt> The following packages will be upgraded:
[03:04] <oFFbeAt>   popularity-contest
[03:04] <Toma-> vlc themeable yet?
[03:04] <faeryNatsuki> it's working in english for me, but i'm using spanish
[03:04] <gnomefreak> gg: try booting another kernel (hopfully you have more than one installed)
[03:04] <oFFbeAt> what's that????
[03:04] <defrysk> Toma-, I would try vlc for movies etc
[03:04] <jrib> Toma-: yes
[03:04] <Toma-> cool
[03:04] <gb_> vlc has skins
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !info popcon | oFFbeAt
[03:04] <ubotu> Package popcon does not exist in any distro I know
[03:04] <yellow> how to bring up the playlist in mplayer ?
[03:04] <defrysk> vlc plays anything
[03:04] <gg> gnomefreak: change in GRUB, yes ?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !info popularity-contest | oFFbeAt
[03:04] <ubotu> popularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB
[03:04] <Toma-> Im sick of BMP and sick of Xine. just want soemthing that will fill my needs
[03:04] <gb_> yellow,  right clik mplayer
[03:04] <gb_> it should be there somewhere
[03:04] <gnomefreak> gg: when you get to grub just choose another kernel see if it boots
[03:05] <cmt^^> gb_ - sort of
[03:05] <yellow> gb_, i was asking about command line, sorry
[03:05] <oFFbeAt> thanx.. i shud learn how to use ubuntu bots
[03:05] <Toma-> oh. vlc is lovely.
[03:05] <Toma-> thx doods
[03:05] <gg> ok, i try brb
[03:05] <cmt^^> gb_ - my ip in adressbar works now, but not www.fotografiker.se, at least not from here
[03:05] <Toma-> sits on my e17 desktop nice :D
[03:05] <yellow> i'm trying to get streamtuner with mplayer
[03:05] <gb_> brb
[03:06] <Oriyen> !paste
[03:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <cmt^^> gb_ - when I enter www.fotografiker.se FF tries to open the index.php in a text-editor instead of viewing the page
[03:06] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: whats the name of the popcon package?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: popularity-contest
[03:07] <gnomefreak> !popcon
[03:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Popularity Contest project is an attempt to map the usage of Ubuntu packages. To partecipate, install the package "popularity-contest", and see  http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasNussbaum/PopconDraft
[03:07] <Oriyen> Error I get when Attemting to install ieee80211 Subsystem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2616/plain/
[03:08] <enkidu> hi
[03:09] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2617/ does that mean it is installed or it cant find it ??
[03:09] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: apt-cache policy popularity-contest
[03:09] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: that will tell you if its installed
[03:11] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: this package requires no input from the user .it is automatic right? apt-cache shows it installed
[03:11] <IdleOne> package/application
[03:12] <mamboadm> does anybody know about sympa?
[03:12] <coNP> mamboadm: sure? what do you want to know about it? :)
[03:12] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: run it. it will have a set p i think
[03:12] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: i havent used it in a while
[03:12] <romedog> in mysql is it important to specify an ip or can you use the default localhost for bind address
[03:12] <mamboadm> coNP, i am just lookin for a good tutorial on howto install this... i want to lean away from the way their website tells you how to do it
[03:13] <IdleOne> !sympa | mamboadm
[03:13] <ubotu> sympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-7 (edgy), package size 1149 kB, installed size 8064 kB
[03:13] <IdleOne> mamboadm: sudo aptitude install sympa should do it
[03:13] <coNP> mamboadm: okay, I only know you can install it, as IdleOne also says
[03:15] <Oriyen> my /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386 does not have a Build folder nor any files but my /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-3860-generic does bur to install ieee80211 it needs to be in the /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386
[03:15] <Oriyen> what do I do
[03:15] <coNP> Oriyen: have you installed sources / headers for 2.6.17-10-386 kernel?
[03:15] <Oriyen> no how do i go about that?
[03:16] <IdleOne> Oriyen: might but wrong but could you make a symlink to the folder?
[03:16] <Yancho> is it possible to put the installation iso on a usb pen drive and install ubuntu from it ? since i don't have a cd drive available ?
[03:16] <coNP> Oriyen: install the package kernel-header-2.6.17... kernel-source-2.6.17... (the ones that end like your kernel image)
[03:17] <coNP> IdleOne: I guess the destination folder is missing, so it would be a symlink to nowhere :)
[03:17] <Oriyen> k bear with me coNP where do i get this image lol ><
[03:17] <Oriyen> not a good mfew days
[03:17] <IdleOne> coNP: :) like I thought I was probably wrong :s
[03:17] <hrishi_> I am having trouble installing dapper server. Install keeps coming back to the disk partitioning step.
[03:17] <hrishi_> any help appreciated
[03:18] <cmt^^> Anyone know why when I put http://<my-ip>/ in the browser adressbar it works, but not with http://www.my-domain.se/? When I use the my-domain.se the browser misinterprets the content of the first page and tries to open it with a text-editor, but when viewing http://<my-ip>/ everything looks the way it's supposed too. Also, http://www.my-domain.se seems to work for everyone but me. Anyone know what to do? Any help appreciated.
[03:18] <coNP> Oriyen: type in a terminal the following: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.17-10-3860-generic kernel-source-2.6.17-10-3860-generic
[03:18] <frogzoo> hrishi_: try booting with options "linux acpi=off"
[03:18] <hrishi_> frogzoo: will give that a shot 1 min
[03:19] <Oriyen> coNP gave me this E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.17-10-3860-generic
[03:20] <coNP> Oriyen: do you use edgy? I try to find the true name of the packages you need
[03:21] <Oriyen> coNP Yea 6.10 Edgy EFT
[03:21] <coNP> Oriyen: try to replace both 3860-s to 386-s (it was your typo, by the way :))
[03:21] <IdleOne> !info junior-writing
[03:21] <ubotu> junior-writing: Debian Jr. writing. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:21] <hrishi_> frogzoo: but on booting the server disk it gives me a menu. not the usual "boot:" where do I say linux acpi?
[03:21] <Oriyen> k my bad
[03:21] <barnabas> i am getting a pthread error now
[03:22] <Oriyen> coNP liek this sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.17-10-386-generic kernel-source-2.6.17-10-386-generic
[03:22] <ff> gnomefreak: hi it didnt help me but i show you what i saw please w8 a moment i must copy it
[03:23] <Pedatron> Belch!
[03:23] <coNP> Oriyen: where did you get this kernel, by the way?
[03:23] <Oriyen> off the Ubuntu Site
[03:23] <Oriyen> I downloaded the live CD and Installed
[03:23] <Pedatron> Ebuntu must die!!!\
[03:23] <IdleOne> Pedatron: ??
[03:24] <nivekz> hi, there. I wish to use vsftp for downloading some files not in /home/ftp/ how can i handle the permission to make it possible?
[03:24] <IdleOne> Pedatron: what is Ebuntu and why must it die?
[03:24] <jason__> hi.  when i make a user, if i want them o be able to access everything on the computer, but no sudo priveleges, how do i do that?
[03:25] <coNP> Oriyen: I guess you need: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[03:25] <Oriyen> coNP I tryeed sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.17-10-386-generic kernel-source-2.6.17-10-386-generic and it jsut returned to the prompt
[03:25] <Oriyen> k ill try
[03:25] <barnabas> oh
[03:25] <Oriyen> yup its going
[03:25] <coNP> jason__: what do you mean by access everything? only super users can access *everything*...
[03:27] <jason__> also, while i am here... how do i fix the udev prob with 2.6.17 and my usRobotics usr5420?  I tried adding a 25commonrules to udev/init.d/  but no go
[03:27] <jason__> well, the sound, the video, etc coNP
[03:27] <thomas_> hi all. I have a problem with my consoles. The problem is there are just colored stripes if i boot my pc with xmodules=vesa it is ok but if i do so i have bad performance on my graphical desktop
[03:27] <gb_> cmt^^, u there?
[03:27] <coNP> jason__: okay, are you using Gnome? There is a tool in Administration / Users-Groups, where you can add your user to the necessary groups without providing it with admin rights
[03:27] <jason__> in kde atm coNP
[03:27] <IdleOne> coNP: I think what jason__ wants is read access for all users to all files but not write access
[03:27] <coNP> IdleOne: I am afraid write access is needed to some devices to make them work
[03:27] <jason__> ok
[03:28] <IdleOne> coNP: I didnt say it was possible just said thats what he wants I believe
[03:28] <coNP> IdleOne: I guess he wants to add the user to the 'audio', 'video', etc. groups
[03:28] <jason__> while on this issue of users... ever since i was mucking about with mythTv (:s i get momentary system freezes every 7-8 seconds.  it is a real pita.
[03:28] <Gandon> Ubuntu - drisnya bomzhevatyh pavianov!
[03:29] <romildo> Hi.
[03:29] <jason__> i just dont want the kids to be able to muck up the system
[03:33] <faeryNatsuki> hi, any good suggestion for language dictionary?
[03:33] <cmt^^> what's a good development environment in ubuntu?
[03:33] <coNP> faeryNatsuki: which languages?
[03:33] <IdleOne> jason__: you can probably do that yourself right lol
[03:33] <gb_> jason,  its a tough one
[03:33] <coNP> cmt^^: for which programming language?
[03:33] <gb_> jason,  u can try encrypting ur file which u think r im.
[03:33] <jason__> heh.   i am good at mucking up my system
[03:33] <ff> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2623/
[03:33] <coNP> jason__: I think the this is for you (adding them to these groups) either by hand or via this tool
[03:33] <jason__> ok
[03:33] <jason__> so primary group = themselves, secondary, anything i want them to have access to
[03:33] <jason__> ?
[03:33] <IdleOne> jason__: setup users for them and make it so they can access internet and chat but anytime they want to install something they will have to ask you. this way it also keeps you in the loop of what they are doing on the computer
[03:33] <coNP> jason__: sure
[03:33] <Gandon> Ubuntu napisal niger-pidoras! Doloy Ubuntu!
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ff: take splash out of the boot options and see if you can boot it
[03:33] <cmt^^> coNP - php mostly
[03:33] <faeryNatsuki> coNP: english spanish german japanese and chinese
[03:33] <ff> gnomefreak: how to do it :?
[03:33] <gb_> cmt^^,  try bluefish
[03:33] <jason__> IdleOne: right.  so...
[03:33] <dido> zdzisaw
[03:33] <Gandon> Bey nigerov!
[03:33] <kalikiana> Is there a program which can notify me automatically of new packages?
[03:33] <romildo> Although I do not use Ubuntu myself (I use gentoo), I recommended it to a friend of mine. He is new to Linux. He has already installed Ubuntu on his computer. Now he wants to install Azureus. He tried the command "sudo apt-get install azureus", but the packages was not found. How can he install Azureus on his new Ubuntu installation?
[03:33] <CanadianMan> hello there
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ff: when you get grub up to choose what to boot hit e than choose the line to edit than edit the line as i said and hit enter
[03:33] <coNP> faeryNatsuki: sorry, maybe some internet ones
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Gandon: english in here please
[03:33] <nemesis128> hi all
[03:33] <defrysk> kalikiana, its already running by default
[03:33] <coNP> kalikiana: new packages or new versions of old packages?
[03:33] <gb_> romildo,  hiya
[03:33] <gb_> romildo,  1st u need to add repostories
[03:33] <gb_> then u can install it
[03:33] <nemesis128> I heard a friend of mine saying that there was no 'su' command in ubuntu, is it a legend or he's right?
[03:33] <oidia> romildo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:33] <faeryNatsuki> em, and the best replacement for babylon is?
[03:33] <gb_> nemesis128,  nope ubuntu has su
[03:33] <coNP> nemesis128: there is a su command, however the root account is disabled by default
[03:33] <Gandon> kalikiana: baba?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> !root | nemesis128
[03:33] <ubotu> nemesis128: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:33] <nemesis128> okay
[03:34] <nemesis128> so you can't do like 'su root' ?
[03:34] <IdleOne> jason__: use the gui to setup users and then you can pick and chose the privs they have
[03:34] <gb_> !sudo | nemesis128
[03:34] <nemesis128> I mean, terminal access for root
[03:34] <gnomefreak> nemesis128: read the link ubotu posted for you please
[03:34] <nemesis128> thx
[03:35] <kalikiana> coNP: new versions of installed packages
[03:35] <Gandon> kalikiana: a nu otvechyay, pizda - baba ili muzhik?
[03:35] <jason__> this is hard to figure out.  all these meaningless (to me) groups
[03:35] <jamfos> nemesis: You can just do "sudo bash".
[03:35] <thomas_> could someone help me with my tty console problems
[03:35] <ErZo> Hello there, I have a little problem while helping some ubuntu's.. It's explained here: http://rafb.net/p/fenM5U77.html
[03:35] <kalikiana> Gandon: I don't understand the language you are using.
[03:35] <coNP> jason__: okay, do you have users-admin installed (try to run gksu users-admin)
[03:36] <ff> Gandon: proponuje nie spamowac bo zaproponuje blokade, don`t spam this channel
[03:36] <padlefot> I just installed Breezy Badger, and I'm not sure if I wanna run dist-upgrade, or download a new CD image..
[03:36] <Gandon> kalikiana: (*) / 8[03:36] <padlefot> har anyone tried upgrading from breezy to edgy?
[03:36] <coNP> kalikiana: as defrysk states it is running by default
[03:37] <gb_> padlefot,  no dapper?
[03:37] <ff> gnomefreak: i never did it before should i just remove or hash this line ?
[03:37] <romedog> Finally got gallery2 two work
[03:37] <Jowi> padlefot, you should not upgrade directly to edgy from breezy
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ff: just remove the word splash from the line
[03:37] <ticki> does anybody know a way to find commands that contain a certain word in their name and/or description
[03:37] <ff> gnomefreak: ok
[03:37] <jason__> crap crap crap   i removed myself from the sudoers list.  and i dont think anyone else has it either
[03:37] <gb_> ticki,  find command?
[03:37] <jason__> how can i fix this???
[03:37] <coNP> ticki: apt-cache search <something>?
[03:38] <kalikiana> coNP: What program should that be? If it were running I'd probably notice.
[03:38] <ticki> coNP: command line commands
[03:38] <CanadianMan> I have a problem with my kernel it's missing Module.symvers does anyone know how i can install it or include it in some way?
[03:38] <Jowi> jason__, restart ubuntu in recovery mode and add yourself back
[03:38] <coNP> jason__: cannot you just add yourself back?
[03:38] <gb_> jason,  add urself to wheel group
[03:38] <ErZo> Hello there, I have a little problem while helping some ubuntu's.. It's explained here: http://rafb.net/p/fenM5U77.html
[03:38] <jason__> how?
[03:38] <ticki> gb_: only commands, not files
[03:38] <coNP> ticki: it is a command line command
[03:38] <gb_> ticki,  yep that too
[03:38] <jason__> coNP: how do i do that?
[03:38] <coNP> kalikiana: update-notifier
[03:39] <coNP> jason__: how did you remove yourself from sudoers?
[03:39] <bashi> moje li nqkoi da dade malko help
[03:39] <ticki> ok. how do i list commands with find? "find ftp" doesn't  throw anything
[03:39] <bashi> za instalatciqta
[03:39] <bashi> ?????????????????
[03:39] <Jowi> bashi, where are you from?
[03:39] <Pici> bashi : language?
[03:39] <jason__> coNP:  with that graphical tool in kde.  i had some stupid mythtv attached to group, so i removed that group and made my primary group adm
[03:40] <kalikiana> coNP: thx
[03:40] <jason__> apparently a big mistake
[03:40] <ErZo> I have a little problem while helping some ubuntu's.. It's explained here: http://rafb.net/p/fenM5U77.html <- It's about IBM Thinkpad T60 + ubuntu + ipw3945
[03:40] <coNP> ticki: I think ls /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin | grep <sg> would do it (if you want installed ones)
[03:40] <gnomefreak> bashi: english in here please
[03:40] <ticki> coNP: so there is not a command in GNU for this
[03:40] <coNP> jason__: cannot you add yourself back?
[03:40] <ticki> apt-cache search worked, but it's only for debian based distros
[03:41] <jason__> no.  i need to do it in administrator mode and it wont take my password coNP
[03:41] <Gandon> Ubuntu - govno!
[03:41] <padlefot> gb_ : nope, i wanna go straight to edgy ;)
[03:41] <coNP> jason__: then start Ubuntu in rescue mode, and fix it
[03:41] <jason__> ok
[03:41] <jason__> brb
[03:41] <jason__> thx
[03:41] <Pici> ErZo : it does work out of the box, I have a T60 with a ipw3945 myself and it works flawlessly
[03:41] <gb_> padlefot,  not recommended :)
[03:41] <Jowi> jason__, reboot in rescue/recovery mode (that will give you a root prompt)
[03:41] <coNP> ticki: I don't know if there is one
[03:41] <thomas_> on my non-graphical consoles there are only colored stripes someone has a idea how to fix this
[03:41] <Pici> ErZo : see if they can get it to work with the liveCD first
[03:42] <padlefot> gb_ : thanx, i'll just download the image and safe myself the hassle
[03:42] <gb_> padlefot,  kool, good luck
[03:42] <padlefot> :-)
[03:42] <ErZo> Pici: Apparently it's not working.. I got atleast 5 computers here, IBM ThinkPAds T60's who are not working out of the box >. <
[03:42] <coNP> padlefot: why do you want to download the image? you can upgrade via net, if you want
[03:42] <ticki> i will create a bash command with the ls
[03:42] <ticki> thanks
[03:42] <coNP> ticki: good luck :)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> !ru | Gandon
[03:43] <ticki> do you know what is the file i need to edit to create a virtual command, something like a shortcut
[03:43] <ubotu> Gandon:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:43] <padlefot> coNP: I figure I'll need the cd when i eventually ruin my system anyways
[03:43] <padlefot> :P
[03:43] <ErZo> Pici: It doesn't even recognize that there is a wireless interface there. <.<
[03:43] <coNP> padlefot: right :)
[03:43] <ticki> so if i type "locatecmd" it will execute the bash script
[03:45] <Gandon> ubotu:    ?
[03:45] <frogzoo> ticki: just edit ~/.bash_aliases   & copy the existing format
[03:45] <coNP> tichki: locate does something like this
[03:45] <padlefot> does beryl work good with gnome? i tried it once with KDE
[03:45] <ticki> coNP: yes, but not with commands
[03:45] <ticki> but everything
[03:45] <coNP> yep
[03:45] <frogzoo> padlefot: just setup bet2 2 mins ago & it's excellent
[03:45] <ticki> frogzoo: thanks
[03:45] <ErZo> padlefot: Yes, it works awesome with gnome.
[03:45] <mamboadm> conP: yo have you ever set sympa up?
[03:45] <coNP> ticki: which?
[03:45] <gb_> i like working with cli
[03:45] <gb_> i just dont know how , lol
[03:45] <padlefot> frogzoo, ErZo: jolly :-)
[03:45] <coNP> mamboadm: no I didn't :(
[03:45] <Jowi> padlefot, beryl can be used stand-alone. it does not require gnome nor kde
[03:45] <psYchotic> ! sympa
[03:45] <ubotu> sympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-7 (edgy), package size 1149 kB, installed size 8064 kB
[03:46] <padlefot> Jowi, yes i am aware =)
[03:46] <Jowi> padlefot, it works well with gnome though
[03:46] <coNP> psYchotic: I guess it is a more complex task to setup sympa, then to apt-get install it :)
[03:46] <mamboadm> Psychotic: na i know about it i have it installed but i wanna like put up the web interface and its not clear on howto
[03:46] <padlefot> i like ;)
[03:47] <psYchotic> mamboadm: I didn't know about it, I thought it was just the french word for "friendly"
[03:47] <Pici> ErZo : I dont have my laptop with me, but you may need to enable the restricted repositories then install the ipw3945 driver
[03:47] <mamboadm> Psychotic: shit is not to friendly if you ask me haha
[03:47] <oxygen> hi
[03:47] <oxygen> all
[03:47] <ticki> coNP: i mean, locate lists all the files
[03:47] <ErZo> Pici: 'The restricted repositories'? I'm not an ubuntu-user. I'm just aiding some lost ubuntu users.
[03:47] <ticki> or is there a way to limit it to commands
[03:47] <psYchotic> Pici: I have an ipw3945, and I didn't need any restricted repo's
[03:47] <oxygen> how can  change resulation 1280x768
[03:47] <psYchotic> mamboadm: lol
[03:47] <coNP> ticki: which lists only binaries
[03:47] <ErZo> psYchotic: How did you do that, then? ;o
[03:47] <gb_> ticki,  find dude
[03:47] <Pici> !restricted | ErZo
[03:47] <ubotu> ErZo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <gb_> ticki,  do man find
[03:47] <Pici> ...
[03:47] <coNP> oxygen: what is your current resolution now?
[03:47] <Pici> thats not what I wanted
[03:48] <ErZo> psYchotic: I got 5 laptops, or more sitting here that can't use it.. the interface isn't found
[03:48] <psYchotic> ErZo: I dunno, turn your wireless on, and do a "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[03:48] <psYchotic> and see what happens
[03:48] <ErZo> psYchotic: lsmod shows the modules loaded already. The interface is nowhere to be found
[03:48] <oxygen> 1024 768
[03:48] <oxygen> :(
[03:48] <oxygen> i use notebook ..
[03:49] <psYchotic> ErZo: and you tried removing the modules, enabling your interface (with the switch on your laptop) and then reinserting them?
[03:49] <psYchotic> ! fixres | oxygen
[03:49] <ubotu> oxygen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:49] <ErZo> psYchotic: There is no switch. Only software switches <.<
[03:50] <ticki> gb_: i don't see anything related to find commands in the man pages
[03:50] <psYchotic> ErZo: weird
[03:50] <Oriyen> Okay I got the subsystemto install but the wireless still does not work
[03:50] <ErZo> psYchotic: Yeah..
[03:50] <gb_> ticki,  hold on
[03:50] <Pici> ErZo : my new T60 has a switch right in the front, opposite where the lid latch is
[03:50] <ticki> gb_: thanks
[03:50] <psYchotic> Pici: yeah, mine does too
[03:50] <coNP> ticki: with -perm flags you can specify to look for executable files
[03:50] <ErZo> Pici: Hm, I'll check.
[03:51] <woodwizzle> I'm using Novell's main menu. Is it possible to make the install software button run synaptic instead of add/remove programs
[03:51] <ErZo> Pici: Alright, they do have that. But I do not think that is the problem.
[03:51] <termleech> can someone point me in the direction of changing my encoding / locale from UTF-8 to Western ISO or equivalent?
[03:51] <gb_> ticki,  find path location  -perm
[03:51] <gb_> ticki,  set -perm to be exe. numericla values
[03:51] <CanadianMan> WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. anyone know how to fix this?
[03:51] <psYchotic> ErZo: apparently, it's in the restricted modules package
[03:52] <hrishi_> frogzoo: booting the dapper server disk it gives me a menu. not the usual "boot:" where do I say linux acpi=off?
[03:53] <CanadianMan> noapci i think
[03:53] <frogzoo> hrishi_: hit b - does it give you a different menu?
[03:53] <Pici> ErZo : Another dumb comment/question (but I have to ask) my wireless interface is listed at eth1 not ath0 or wan0, are you sure that its not listed in ifconfig?
[03:53] <CanadianMan> as one of the parameters
[03:53] <psYchotic> ErZo: but you said you already have the module, right
[03:53] <Pici> !info ipw3945
[03:53] <ubotu> Package ipw3945 does not exist in any distro I know
[03:53] <Pici> !info ipw2200
[03:53] <ubotu> Package ipw2200 does not exist in any distro I know
[03:53] <ErZo> Pici: I double checked and it's not showing in ifconfig -a (-a show all interfaces)
[03:53] <hrishi_> frogzoo: no
[03:53] <woodwizzle> I have ipw2200, It works with the network-manager program
[03:53] <ErZo> psYchotic: The module is there, apparently. But it's not used, nor is the interface there
[03:53] <Pici> ErZo : Hmm.
[03:53] <romedog> !samba
[03:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:53] <frogzoo> hrishi_: e ?
[03:53] <psYchotic> ErZo: and you  have tried to do iwconfig eth1?
[03:53] <thomas_> someone can help me with my console graphic problems
[03:54] <CanadianMan> WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. anyone know how to fix this?
[03:54] <ErZo> psYchotic: eth1 does not exist. ;)
[03:54] <romildo> How does one start the sshd service on Ubuntu?
[03:54] <gb_> roma,  /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:54] <romildo> gb_: thanks
[03:54] <hrishi_> frogzoo: e does not either. F6 says other options. But there is a huge cmd string when I hit f6
[03:55] <gb_> yw
[03:55] <Pici> ErZo : does lsmod list the module in use and being used?
[03:55] <psYchotic> ErZo: weird crap. I have no idea how I did it all. But say, your interface is in a laptop, right, and you can't find any physical switch anywhere?
[03:55] <frogzoo> hrishi_: is it something like: root=/dev/hda1 splash quiet ... ?
[03:55] <bulmer> Erzo or Pici you can verify if its detected by  ls -la /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf   <-- all nics should show up here
[03:55] <DavidDawesFXA> WOW! Busy channel!
[03:56] <Pici> bulmer : thanks for the tip, I'll try to remember that
[03:56] <hrishi_> frogzoo: it begins preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed...
[03:56] <gnomefreak> bitchslapper: please change you nick its not approprate
[03:56] <ErZo> psYchotic: I didn't check propperly, I got an IBM Thinkpad T43 myself.. but the T60's had a rf-switch, so I found that. But that's not the prob ;p
[03:56] <hrishi_> frogzoo: it has root=/dev/ram in the long text
[03:56] <CanadianMan> WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. anyone know how to fix this?
[03:56] <ticki> gb_: what is the value i should list only  executables ?
[03:56] <ErZo> bulmer: noted, I'll check in a while. (I dont have an T60 ;o)
[03:56] <psYchotic> btw, I have a little problem of my own. When I'm using the "nvidia" driver, I can't see my virtual terminals (I mean those things you should see when you do ctrl+alt+F1)
[03:57] <gb_> ticki,  try 001
[03:57] <frogzoo> hrishi_: k, just add 'acpi=off' at the end of that, & hit 'b'
[03:57] <gb_> ticki,  give some test :)
[03:57] <psYchotic> ErZo: well, I know mine isn't properly detected when it isn't switched on, I sometimes have to remove the module, enable the nic, and then reinsert the module
[03:57] <thomas_> psYchotic, i have the same problem with the ati drivers
[03:58] <psYchotic> thomas_: what are those terminals really called, I can't think of their name
[03:58] <bulmer> CanadianMan: tried downloading the linux source again ?
[03:58] <CanadianMan> bulmer: yes i did
[03:58] <thomas_> psYchotic, i also don't know exactly
[03:58] <Jowi> psYchotic, not even if you set vga=normal in grubs menu.lst?
[03:58] <ErZo> psYchotic: Well, I do believe it was switched off. I don't believe they'd turn the switch off the switch after shutting down windows/before booting ubuntu :P
[03:58] <hrishi_> frogzoo: added acpi=off and hit enter (b just put b on the screen, enter started boot). Is there any way to check if acpi is off for the install?
[03:58] <bulmer> CanadianMan: the new download did not have the file?
[03:58] <ErZo> psYchotic: switched on*
[03:58] <CanadianMan> bulmer: i have tried under dapper and edgy both give me this warning/error when i try to get LIRC working
[03:58] <Pici> psYchotic : You may need to add an argument for framebuffer support to your kernel init
[03:59] <eboogie> good morning, guys.
[03:59] <CanadianMan> bulmer: the file was there yes
[03:59] <gb_> eboogie, gm
[03:59] <frogzoo> hrishi_: you don't want the b there, erase it, hit CR, then 'b' - to boot
[03:59] <thomas_> Jowi, tried this bootparameter but it doesnt work
[03:59] <Pici> !framebuffer | psYchotic
[03:59] <ubotu> psYchotic: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[03:59] <psYchotic> Pici: ah, I'm gonna try that
[03:59] <hrishi_> frogzoo: done. just CR started the boot
[03:59] <Pici> psYchotic : I had the same problem with my T60 until last night, when I finally got around to fixing it
[03:59] <eboogie> quick question: are there any options other than jhymn to deauthorize protected aac files purchased from itunes?
[03:59] <bulmer> CanadianMan: sometimes the warning you can ignore...but this seems to be the header for versioning..try to ignore it for now and see how far the Makefile goes
[04:01] <eboogie> i received a $25 gift card, purchase songs, but have not been able to decrypt them.
[04:01] <CanadianMan> bulmer i'm trying to get LIRC working and when i type the command irw i just get another command prompt.  I have a forum post about this and some said they think it's something with my kernel
[04:01] <padlefot> does anybody know some good tv-out software for Nvidia?
[04:01] <psYchotic> Pici: and did you enable the framebuffer through grub, or did you do it with your xorg.conf?
[04:01] <Jowi> CanadianMan, do you have lircd.conf set up with your keys?
[04:01] <ticki> gb_: find doesn't work. i think : "ls /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin | grep <sg>" gets the job done
[04:01] <bulmer> CanadianMan: thats what I meant, when compiling the kernel, you may get some warning, that you can ignore for now, and see how far it goes
[04:01] <CanadianMan> Jowi: yes i do
[04:02] <gb_> ticki,  kool
[04:02] <CanadianMan> bulmer: ok ty
[04:02] <ticki> and it is faster
[04:02] <Jowi> CanadianMan, are you using a specific driver in hardware.conf?
[04:02] <ticki> i will create a bash script
[04:02] <ticki> Where shall i place my bash scripts:?
[04:02] <CanadianMan> Jowi: yes i am lirc_mceusb2
[04:02] <bulmer> ticki in the "." dir
[04:02] <gb_> somewhere in ur path
[04:02] <CyKuH_CblH> Kredito sharlatane de la babka koldunito
[04:02] <erUSUL> ticki: ~/bin or /usr/local/bin/
[04:03] <CyKuH_CblH> Sektante kleptomane Kopperfild aeroplan.
[04:04] <Pici> CyKuH_CblH : language?
[04:04] <CyKuH_CblH> Benzino kley Momento la kolesa guanito
[04:04] <Seveas> CyKuH_CblH, this channel is english only
[04:04] <ticki> bulmer and erUSUL: thanks
[04:04] <CyKuH_CblH> Muerto pod zaboro el bomzhino Narkoman.
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its been like that for an hour now
[04:04] <Seveas> ah
[04:04] <gnomefreak> hes gandon
[04:04] <Jowi> CanadianMan, have you tried to leave DRIVER blank and only use the LIRCD_ARGS?
[04:04] <iturk> hey i want to install msttcorefonts. In the foruns say that i have to have universe in the source.list -> http://pastebin.ca/325706 So what is the problem?
[04:04] <g1> gnomefreak: hi it help me but half, system was booting but after some process show me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2628/
[04:05] <CanadianMan> Jowi, you mean DRIVER="" and MODULE="lirc_mceusb2"?
[04:05] <g1> gnomefreak: without splash, it was ok ,thankyou
[04:05] <Jowi> CanadianMan, no, both blank. wait scratch that. let's try something
[04:05] <CanadianMan> Jowi, ok
[04:06] <gnomefreak> g1: there is a fix for it but i cant remember it you need to change the upslash config file
[04:06] <Jowi> CanadianMan, does "sudo irw" also return you to the prompt?
[04:06] <gb_> gnomefreak,  which is the usplash config file ?
[04:06] <mamboadm> say i wanted to open a .html file from the terminal what would i type
[04:06] <CanadianMan> Jowi, yes it does
[04:06] <gb_> mamboadm,  w3m filename.html
[04:07] <gb_> mamboadm,  make sure w3m is installed
[04:07] <CanadianMan> Jowi, if i do it again sudo or no sudo i get something saying no connection
[04:07] <erUSUL> mamboadm: firefox file.html ??
[04:07] <gnomefreak> gb_: im trying to remember
[04:07] <CanadianMan> Jowi, and i have to restart lircd
[04:07] <gb_> gnomefreak,  ok ty
[04:07] <heanol> is it normal to not get direct rendering on both x-servers if i start two?
[04:08] <mrmist> Hi all
[04:08] <romildo> gb_: do you know what repository has azureus? Because after adding the extra repositories from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories, apt-get still does not find azureus.
[04:08] <thomas_> psYchotic, are you still there ?
[04:08] <mrmist> Anyone here know how to enable thread-safety in PHP ?
[04:08] <gb_> romildo,  universal
[04:08] <iturk> hey guys i need to install  msttcorefonts any ideas?
[04:08] <Seveas> mrmist, apt-get remove php; apt-get install mod_python
[04:08] <Seveas> !msttcorefonts | iturk
[04:08] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:09] <romildo> gb_: do you mean universe ?
[04:09] <gb_> yes
[04:09] <iturk> Seveas: i am using dapper not edgy
[04:09] <g1> sorry something remove me :_
[04:09] <cyzie> other than tomcat, is there any other java app that has script in /etc/init.d ?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you remember the usplash config file to change for edgy usplash bug (going back too many months for me)
[04:09] <gb_> romildo,  if u cant find it there, download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <Seveas> iturk, dapper has it as well :)
[04:09] <mrmist> Seveas: Huh ? I can't remove PHP
[04:10] <g1> gnomefreak:  where is splash config, and how can i edit this?
[04:10] <Seveas> mrmist, then you can't be thread safe
[04:10] <gnomefreak> g1: one minute
[04:10] <CanadianMan> anyone know where i can find a nice tutorial on building/compiling a custom kernel?
[04:10] <Seveas> gnomefreak, /etc/usplash.conf
[04:10] <Pici> iturk : one of your lines in your sources.list had edgy listed in it, you may want to change that to dapper
[04:10] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ty
[04:10] <Jowi> CanadianMan, if you run "sudo lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/event0" does it return an error?
[04:10] <gb_> Seveas,  ty
[04:10] <gnomefreak> g1: gksudo gedit /etc/usplash.conf
[04:10] <iturk> Seveas: so where is my source.list what should i add -> http://pastebin.ca/325706
[04:10] <IamEthos> is this channel logged?
[04:10] <CanadianMan> Jowi, let me try
[04:10] <IamEthos> apparently I missed a comment from someone?
[04:11] <mrmist> Seveas: PHP has a flag, I don't know how to set it. Do you ?
[04:11] <Seveas> IamEthos, it is
[04:11] <Seveas> !logs | IamEthos
[04:11] <ubotu> IamEthos: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:11] <gnomefreak> g1 and gb_ open it and set it as follows
[04:12] <psYchotic> Pici: yeah, this seems to have fixed it
[04:12] <heanol> is it normal to not get direct rendering on both x-servers if i start two?
[04:12] <iturk> Pici: its deb-src it doesnt influence
[04:12] <gb_> gnomefreak,  ok, ty chking now
[04:12] <gnomefreak> g1: gb_ xres=1024
[04:12] <gnomefreak> yres=768
[04:12] <g1> gnomefreak thankyoui`m going to try it
[04:12] <Seveas> iturk, that sources.list is incomplete
[04:12] <Seveas> !easysource | iturk, create a new one here
[04:12] <ubotu> iturk, create a new one here: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:12] <CanadianMan> Jowi, i don't get a thing
[04:12] <ticki> is there a way to type anywhere "mycmd" and get ~/bin/mycmd.sh executed?
[04:12] <gb_> done
[04:12] <Jowi> CanadianMan, good. try irw again and hopefully you will get just a new blank line but no prompt
[04:13] <CanadianMan> Jowi, ok
[04:13] <gb_> ticki,  command should be in ur $PATH
[04:13] <g1> gnomefreak: but i have one more quest gedit is editor for gnome?( I want to be  sure) Will it work in booting command line?
[04:13] <Pici> iturk : append 'multiverse' w/o quotes to your listed repositories
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gb_: add splash back to boot options and reboot
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gb_: command line use nano
[04:13] <gb_> kool ty
[04:14] <LjL> Ubotu, tell CanadianMan about kernel | CanadianMan, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:14] <gb_> brb
[04:14] <thomas_> psYchotic, do you know the solution right now ?
[04:15] <CanadianMan> Jowl, i get another command prompt after irw
[04:15] <Oriyen> is there a APT for intel wireless?
[04:15] <IamEthos> hmm
[04:15] <CanadianMan> Jowl, and sudo irw
[04:15] <IamEthos> why was xchat flashing
[04:15] <IamEthos> it doesn't appear that I've missed anything.
[04:16] <IamEthos> I wish there was a pane in xchat that would just gather all messages with my name in it
[04:17] <g1> gnomefreak: i have idea for my trouble, can i install metacity before gnome will start?
[04:17] <g1> ex in booting mode?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> g1: install it now
[04:17] <g1> gnomefreak: now i use live cd...
[04:17] <gnomefreak> g1: you can install it in text mode. g1 install ubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:18] <gnomefreak> g1: you would have to boot into text mode and install ubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <gb_> ok back
[04:18] <Jowi> CanadianMan, hmmm, i don't know. probably faulty driver. that's a bit weird.
[04:18] <g1> gnomefreak: really and it dont delete my files ...just instal what i nedd?
[04:18] <CanadianMan> Jowi, ok thank you very much for your help
[04:19] <gnomefreak> g1: it will install everything that you need for gnome to run
[04:19] <gnomefreak> gb_: work ok?
[04:19] <gb_> yes , ty :)
[04:19] <iturk> Seveas: thanks
[04:19] <gb_> had np
[04:20] <CanadianMan> Jowi, does Module.symvers
[04:20] <CanadianMan> is missing
[04:20] <gnomefreak> gb_: yw
[04:20] <g1> gnomefreak: and it wont remove anything ? :)
[04:20] <CanadianMan> sorry
[04:20] <gnomefreak> g1: shouldnt
[04:20] <CanadianMan> Jowi, mean anything?
[04:20] <g1> :)
[04:23] <Jowi> CanadianMan, not really. if your remote isn't supported in the kernel I don't know how to get it working. I was lucky that found a driver for mine that automatically injected the kernel with the correct driver for it. rebooted, tested a few /dev/input/event(s) and it worked with event0. that doesn't require lircd to have a driver/module by itself (it uses the dev/input driver).
[04:23] <padlefot> this sucks
[04:24] <padlefot> im downloading three identical ubuntu images, and they all reach the same speed whatever i do
[04:24] <padlefot> i guess bittorrent is my best shot
[04:24] <SanketMedhi> Can someone please guide me through how to use PHP + ODBC + Ubuntu ???
[04:24] <CanadianMan> Jowi, what remote do you have by chance?
[04:24] <coNP> SanketMedhi: what database do you use?
[04:24] <frogzoo> padlefot: of course
[04:24] <Jowi> CanadianMan, appleir (the one included in the mac mini)
[04:25] <Nalleman> Good afternoon. I have a problem with my generic kernel that I installed some dats ago. The problem is that the kernel is not loading my wireless network card at startup, is there anyone familiar with this kind of problem?
[04:25] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I want to access MS SQL server
[04:25] <coNP> SanketMedhi: okay, then have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[04:25] <CanadianMan> Jowi, OK thank you again for your help
[04:26] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I have Ubuntu with LAMP installed
[04:26] <Jowi> CanadianMan, just found this. not sure if you've seen it already https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy#head-a1dba57858ffd46f283504b106d6d355794890bc
[04:26] <coNP> SanketMedhi: perfect
[04:26] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I want to access my other machine which is running MS SQL Server
[04:26] <coNP> SanketMedhi: then I guess you just have to write php code now :)
[04:26] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I am not a n00b! :P
[04:26] <CanadianMan> Jowi, checkign it out now
[04:26] <coNP> SanketMedhi: okay, just joking :)
[04:26] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I know :P
[04:26] <foutrelis> :)
[04:27] <CanadianMan> Jowi, ah yes this is what i was using
[04:27] <SanketMedhi> coNP: I spent almost 2 days trying to set up ODBC
[04:27] <Lanny> oi
[04:27] <SanketMedhi> coNP: its not working
[04:27] <CanadianMan> Jowi, when i get to the irw command step that is when things stop working
[04:28] <Lanny> oi tem alguem ai?
[04:28] <rebz> i know its possible to make the menubar for the top panel transparent, but what about themeing the menus themselves? like applications,places, etc.
[04:29] <coNP> SanketMedhi: php-db is also a possiblity to reach mssql databases
[04:29] <romildo> gb_: my friend (new to linux) is running Ubuntu and cannot install packages with apt-get. HIs network is working, as he is talking to me in gaim. His /etc/apt/sources.list is the one from  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories. But apt-get does not find the packages he tries to install. Any clues?
[04:29] <coNP> SanketMedhi: however I don't really know either php-db or ODBC
[04:29] <Jowi> CanadianMan, and you're using 6.10 as in the how-to ?
[04:30] <SanketMedhi> coNP: no probs, I found something on ##php, trying it now
[04:30] <coNP> SanketMedhi: good luck!
[04:30] <SanketMedhi> coNP: thanks
[04:31] <CanadianMan> Jowi, yes i am, i first tried 6.06 because i was told it would still work but i'm getting the same thing with 6.10
[04:31] <happydog> hey guys,I'm using ThinkPad X60s,but there is no sound,no matter 6.06 or 6.10
[04:31] <dfd> gnomefreak: are you still here
[04:31] <dfd> ?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> dfd: yes
[04:32] <krang> #sysadmin
[04:32] <dfd> gnomefreak: when i try to run textmode/commmand line system started install ubuntu procedure (choose language etc) should i do it
[04:32] <kotatsu> anyone able to recommend a good portable ogg player?
[04:33] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[04:33] <gnomefreak> dfd: yes
[04:33] <LjL> !es | anti_system32
[04:33] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:33] <coNP> kotatsu: what do you mean by portable, by now?
[04:33] <dfd> gnomefreak: how i remember next step will be formated partition and i dont want this, or should i choos another options
[04:33] <dfd> ?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> dfd: no
[04:34] <gnomefreak> dfd: boot ubuntu as you would from hard drive and install the package named ubuntu-desktop
[04:34] <kotatsu> coNP: something I can stick in my pocket and attach headphones to =)
[04:34] <dfd> gnomefreak: so how to install ubuntu-desktop or metacity ?
[04:34] <gcr> Does anyone where I can find more information on Ubuntu including Sun's Java?
[04:34] <dfd> gnomefreak: ah
[04:34] <Loui1> Can anyone help a novice add a printer? I had it right, then recently rebooted and lost the connection. I try to add it back and it would appear successful, but I never get the job printed off....
[04:34] <krang> join #cheese
[04:35] <LjL> krang: try with a leading /
[04:35] <arpjp> i am looking for one bandwidth shaper that limit by ip address to my suse 9.0 could someone recommend me one ?
[04:35] <_raphael_> how do I turn off quotas permanently?
[04:35] <dromer> what is the command again to check for usb devices?
[04:35] <coNP> _raphael_: you should mount filesystems without quota
[04:35] <slick_willy> noob question, is there any alternative to plf?
[04:35] <krang> LjL: don't worry, I use IRC every day, my brain's just a bit mushy today :-)
[04:35] <LjL> krang: ;-)
[04:35] <_raphael_> coNP: ok. I forgot I did that
[04:36] <dfd> gnomefreak: sorry for too much q but averythime when i run live cd i must copy IP, gateway etc it take me so much time so i prefer questions :),so when i see (initframs) there i should paste apt-get install ..... ? yes?
[04:36] <krang> LjL: Thanks though, this channel seems to be full of the most helpful people on IRC!
[04:36] <coNP> Loui1: still here? do you use gnome / kde?
[04:36] <gcr> Does anyone here follow Java on Ubuntu?  Thanks in advance :-)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> dfd: no if you are getting that its a kernel issue that wont help you
[04:36] <cink> Krang I Agree.... I havent had a question, just sitting back and taking notes
[04:36] <coNP> gcr: do you want to install sun java?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ty i was getting there LjL was pulled for a question
[04:37] <dfd> gnomefreak: so i should edit upsplahs or what ?
[04:37] <gcr> I am looking to switch distros.  But I am waiting for one to come with Sun's Java instead of gcj
[04:37] <coNP> gcr: Ubuntu has sun java
[04:37] <dfd> gnomefreak: sorry for mistakes
[04:37] <gcr> No offense to gcj -- it was great to have it when I installed ydl on PS3 :-)
[04:38] <gcr> Thanks coNP!  What version?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> dfd: you need to boot kernel to edit it unless you chroot into your install from livecd
[04:38] <mwe> gcr: ubuntu doesn't 'come' with sun java. installing it is easy, though
[04:38] <coNP> gcr: okay, it has gcj too :)
[04:38] <IntuitiveNipple> gcr: You can install Java 1.5 from Ubuntu repositories, or 1.6 from Sun directly.
[04:38] <krang> cink: blimey, you're diligent!
[04:38] <CanadianMan> gcr: what is ydl and is this on the PlayStation 3?
[04:38] <coNP> gcr, IntuitiveNipple: 1.5 from repositories in edgy, 1.5 and 1.6 from repos in feisty :)
[04:38] <gcr> Yeah, I mostly just want to make sure the items in the repositories are not based on gcj.
[04:38] <oFFbeAt> coNP, perhaps u can help me with my java problem? i'm using edgy.. i have sun java JDK n JRE installed but when i run java apps like "mercury" or "frostwire" i only get a blank frame.. nothin in it
[04:38] <romedog> what is the ! command for media apps
[04:38] <gcr> CanadianMan,  Yellow Dog Linux
[04:39] <gcr> For Power processors
[04:39] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm not counting Feisty until its released.
[04:39] <coNP> oFFbeAt: you should enable universe repositories and install sun-java5-jre
[04:39] <oFFbeAt> coNP, i have
[04:39] <coNP> IntuitiveNipple: okay, you are right (I move to #ubuntu+1) :)
[04:39] <Jowi> romedog, what kind?
[04:39] <CanadianMan> gcr, thank you
[04:39] <LjL> !players | romedog, this?
[04:39] <ubotu> romedog, this?: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:39] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: are you using xgl or something?
[04:39] <gcr> mwe, coNP: Thanks again
[04:39] <oFFbeAt> sun j2re
[04:39] <coNP> gcr: yw :)
[04:39] <romedog> that is it
[04:39] <romedog> thanks
[04:39] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, yes i'm using xgl
[04:39] <IntuitiveNipple> coNP: Don't want to scare off new users with alpha/beta stuff that might break and put them off
[04:40] <coNP> IntuitiveNipple: Okay. You are really right. Isn't Java 6 still alpha, by the way?
[04:40] <romedog> what would be the closests to windows media player
[04:40] <gcr> coNP, no its out
[04:40] <coNP> gcr: okay, thanks
[04:40] <mwe> coNP: beta I think
[04:40] <gcr> Late November I think
[04:40] <gcr> Early December possibly
[04:40] <dfd> gnomefreak: i`m using just ubuntu and it`s my one window to word :P, so could you explain it in points (i`m study filology not informatic ), please?
[04:40] <coNP> okay, I use java 5
[04:40] <Loui1> Does anyone have some patience to help a novice with a printer setup problem?
[04:41] <coNP> Loui1: we try to
[04:41] <dfd> gnomefreak:  when i see (initframs) ....
[04:41] <Byan> romedog: use vlc
[04:41] <coNP> Loui1: do you use kde or gnome (kubuntu / ubuntu)?
[04:41] <Byan> it's the easiest to config
[04:41] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: i think there's a problem in beryl/compiz with the way it tells resized window co-ords to java windows, so programs that start out with a small frame then pack it with stuff don't show up at all, i think there's a workaround in java 6
[04:41] <dfd> gnomefreak: write chroot ?
[04:41] <romedog> ok I will try it
[04:41] <Loui1> coNP. can chat in a room or individually?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> dfd: easiest thing to do is reinstall at this point because i dont think the usplash is the full issue
[04:41] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: but i'm not sure, at least that give you an idea as to what's causing it tho
[04:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Java SE 6u1 is build b03 atm
[04:42] <Loui1> coNP: I think I am using the gnome
[04:42] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, thanx knwing the cause if half the solution
[04:42] <dfd> gnomefreak but if i try reinstall it i`ll lost my files ....
[04:42] <romildo> How can I install a local package (without using the repositories)?
[04:42] <oFFbeAt> *is
[04:42] <coNP> Loui1: okay, do you have System / Administration / Printing?
[04:42] <Loui1> yea
[04:42] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, so if i remove beryl.. i'll b able to use it right?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> dfd: yes :( not sure what to do than maybe someone else knows
[04:43] <Loui1> coNP: i follow the usual Add Printer way. I seem to "see" the printer and add it. (An ordinary HP 1020.)
[04:43] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: try using beryl-manager to switch to metacity, and see if that solves teh problem
[04:43] <Loui1> coNP: Then it looks successfully instanned, but no jobs print through
[04:43] <Loui1> coNP: tested the printer on another PC and it works fine.
[04:43] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: if it does, then in theory, when you switch back with the ready resized window, it should work again
[04:44] <coNP> Loui1: so you add it, it appears as a printer. What does it when you try to print a test page?
[04:44] <Loui1> coNP: When I send a job or do a test page, itwoudl seem the job gets through OK because it doesn't hang. Int he print queue it woudl seem the job goes through, but nothing happnes
[04:44] <dfd> gnomefreak: i can`t do this :(, so i must try edit upsplash, or install just metacity (ubuntu-desktop), could you explain how to make first on second in points, please :)
[04:45] <Loui1> coNP: My printer was fine. a friend put me on ubuntu last week. I was printeing fine for a  week. Then I had ot power down one daya nd I turned on the next day, I could never print again.
[04:45] <oxygen> i cant use 1280x768
[04:45] <oxygen> :(
[04:45] <oxygen> help me pls
[04:45] <dfd> gnomefreak: nano -w /etc/usplash.conf?
[04:45] <psYchotic> oxygen: have you tried the stuff that I pointed out?
[04:45] <psYchotic> ! fixres | oxygen
[04:45] <ubotu> oxygen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:46] <Loui1> coNP: I ahve tried all the usual things. remove, reinstall. reboot. change USB ports. etc, etc. nothing works. But the printer does work from another PC just fine.
[04:46] <Azul> i upgraded to 6.1 and my x server won't start up
[04:46] <Loui1> coNP: and when I do remove it and add it again, it would seem it added successfully bvecause all seems to go so well. But it just wont print anymore.
[04:46] <Azul> i changed all dapper in my sources list to edgy
[04:47] <rich__> anyone have kiba dock here?
[04:47] <gosajk> i haven't got any updates on my dapper system for more than 1 month.is that strange?
[04:47] <Azul> then it asked for 900MB of packages, then it wouldn't work
[04:47] <coNP> Sorry, Loui1, I think it is beyond my abilities. :(
[04:47] <coNP> Azul: does it say that you need to have more space in /var?
[04:47] <Loui1> coNP: Thanks for trying....
[04:48] <Azul> gosajk, don't upgrade unless you really have to.. i never had any horrible experiences with system updates until i tried ubuntu
[04:48] <Azul> coNP, no, i have enough disk space
[04:48] <Pici> Azul : ...
[04:49] <coNP> gosajk: do you have the security repository turned on?
[04:49] <Azul> slackware updates were pretty good
[04:49] <Azul> coNP, yep
[04:49] <gosajk> Azul: but if i don't upgrade i don't get bugfixes for example..
[04:49] <balazs> whois molti
[04:49] <gosajk> coNP: i will check
[04:49] <IdleOne> Azul: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh then sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[04:50] <coNP> hi balazs :)
[04:50] <Azul> gosajk, don't upgrade until you are sure you got the bug
[04:50] <gcr> thanks all, talk to you after I have Ubuntu installed :-)
[04:50] <murac> how can i play .asf files in mozilla
[04:51] <murac> www.nba.com and videos top10
[04:51] <murac> cant see
[04:51] <Azul> IdleOne, i'll give it a shot, it get any worse
[04:51] <IdleOne> gosajk: sudo apt-get upgrade is fine it's when you do a upgrade to 6.10 that sometimes there are problems
[04:51] <DBFT> Can someone recommend a newsleecher (with NZB) support?
[04:51] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, yes forcing metacity to manage windows does solve the problem
[04:52] <dfd> gnomefreak: and so , could u or couldnt ?
[04:52] <oFFbeAt> beryl is nasty
[04:52] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: nonsense, beryl's great, its just young yet, give it time to iron out the wrinkles
[04:52] <gosajk> IdleOne: so it's normal i don't get updates on a dapper system?
[04:53] <LjL> opinions can be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[04:53] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, yes it's very shiny :D but i'd give priority to the applications
[04:53] <drivera90> I went to bed, woke up, came to my PC and the Internet broke. I'm still on IRC fine, but software updates doesn't work and I can't access websites. Thoughts?
[04:53] <Pici> drivera90 : Probably a DNS issue
[04:53] <IdleOne> gosajk: you should get bug fixes and security updates every so often yeah and probably kernel updates now and then
[04:54] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: works perfectly with everything i use, and increases my productivity massively, i can't work without my workspaces
[04:54] <gnomefreak> dfd: im not sure how you are gonna recover from it. try /msg ubotu chroot and see if that will help you get into you install and see if you can change it from there. i have a meeting in a few minutes im getting ready for
[04:54] <Pici> drivera90 : can you do a 'dig google.com' ? does it list the coorisponding ip addresses for the domain names?
[04:55] <dfd> gnomefreak: ok so thankyou
[04:55] <raize> hello all
[04:55] <Azul> gosajk, i got an update once that also broke my X
[04:55] <IdleOne> Azul: do you have any no ubuntu debs in your source list?
[04:55] <IdleOne> no/non
[04:55] <raize> i can't seem to import my mail settings from a winxp thunderbird into a kubuntu installed thunderbird.
[04:56] <Azul> gosajk, i'm not deciding for you, i'm just telling you my experience with ubuntu updates.. then i got a fix on some forum
[04:56] <raize> i have access to the thunderbird profile folder, and a bunch of files, plus the kubuntu thunderbird.. any idea how to get this all imported?
[04:56] <undergroup> hey
[04:56] <Azul> IdleOne, i got the defaults + automatix repos
[04:56] <LjL> !automatix
[04:56] <IdleOne> Azul: there ya go
[04:56] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:56] <undergroup> alguien que hable espaol
[04:56] <LjL> !es | undergroup
[04:56] <ubotu> undergroup: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:56] <Ayabara> is there a good and simple tool for joining avi files?
[04:57] <LjL> !avifile-utils | Ayabara
[04:57] <ubotu> avifile-utils: utility programs using the avifile library. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.7.44.20051021-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 280 kB, installed size 852 kB
[04:57] <drivera90> Pici: No
[04:57] <IdleOne> Azul: the reason your system keeps breaking is automatix
[04:57] <gosajk> Azul+IdleOne: problem is solved. i have another sources.list from source-o-matic.the other sources.list was also from source-o-matic but there was something wrong with that probable.but many thanks
[04:57] <Azul> IdleOne, in the automatix website, it says automatix won't break the system
[04:57] <deltaray2> Has anyone been able to install vmware workstation on Ubuntu Edgy from the tarball?  I get it install, but then it always tells me I need to run the vmware-config.pl script, even though I already have.
[04:57] <LjL> Azul: they say to not listen to anything that's said in the official Ubuntu channel (that is, here), for that matter.
[04:58] <Ayabara> LjL, thanks a lot
[04:58] <IdleOne> Azul: of course would you buy my car if I told you the motor is shot?
[04:58] <_Hug[o] _> Is it possible to link directories?
[04:58] <coNP> _Hug[o] _: do you want to make symbolic links?
[04:58] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: symlink you mean? sure
[04:58] <_Hug[o] _> LjL, Do they apply to dirs as well?
[04:58] <dromer> can someone help me with this, I really want Thunderbird to work properly  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2052480
[04:59] <Azul> IdleOne, makes sense
[04:59] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile
[04:59] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: yes
[04:59] <Azul> !easyubuntu
[04:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:00] <wheels3572> How do I find out what specific CD-Rom I have in my system?  Is there a command in Linux to do that?
[05:00] <Azul> at least it didn't say it breaks the system :P
[05:00] <IdleOne> Azul: with ubuntu best bet is to stay within the official repos unless you know what your doing and willing to fix the problem yourself. this channel does NOT provide support if you ise automatix because it breaks ubuntu
[05:00] <Azul> gotta go.. later
[05:00] <coNP> wheels3572: System / Admin / Hardware Information?
[05:00] <_Hug[o] _> LjL, Very nice, thanks!
[05:01] <wheels3572> coNP, ty
[05:01] <Pici> drivera90 : make sure that the DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf are both pingable.  If they arent, and you are on dhcp, try bringing your network interface down and up to get a new address.  You might also have to reset your router (if available), to have it get new dns servers from your ISP.  If that doesnt work, you may have to contact your ISP, or use level3's dns servers at 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
[05:01] <coNP> wheels3572: yw
[05:01] <Gosha> how can i adjust the colume manually?
[05:01] <mattfletcher> does anyone know of any decent open source nfs clients for windows?
[05:02] <_Hug[o] _> LjL, What media player do you use?
[05:02] <IdleOne> mattfletcher: ##windows is a good place to ask
[05:02] <mattfletcher> ooh, i never thought of looking for such a place!
[05:02] <wheels3572> coNP, I dont see that here.  Im using Xubuntu if that makes a difference
[05:02] <coNP> wheels3572: it might make
[05:03] <wheels3572> coNP, ok
[05:03] <coNP> wheels3572: try then dmesg|grep CD in a  shell
[05:03] <wheels3572> ok
[05:03] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: amarok for music and kaffeine (but, i guess VLC more often) for the rest
[05:03] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: needless to say i'm on KDE
[05:03] <_Hug[o] _> LjL, Kubuntu?
[05:03] <ajeetraj> hello everyone
[05:03] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: yes
[05:03] <ajeetraj> i am in really need of my webcam to be working
[05:04] <IdleOne> !webcam
[05:04] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:04] <ajeetraj> anyone can help me here ?
[05:04] <dfd> could somebody know what can i do with this allas my master go away http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2628/ ?
[05:05] <ajeetraj> i went through these websites but the problem is in recieving the webcam in kopete
[05:05] <SushiP> Could someone please help me with EciAdsl?
[05:05] <ajeetraj> hello ubotu
[05:06] <dfd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2628/ so nobody have any idea ?
[05:06] <_Hug[o] _> LjL, Is KDE faster than Gnome?
[05:06] <Gosha> !sound
[05:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:06] <LjL> _Hug[o] _: guess not
[05:06] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: WebCam's are a mess in Linux - I've got 9 USB cams and none of them are supported
[05:06] <ajeetraj> i am so frustrated because i have to switch to windows all the time because of othis
[05:06] <Gosha> IntuitiveNipple: i've got one and it's working flawless :D
[05:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Gosha: the number of cam chip-sets supported is very small, though
[05:07] <IdleOne> Ive got one and refuse to use it as a matter of fact im thinking of disconnecting sound also hehe
[05:07] <Pici> ajeetraj : is it just a kopete problem, or does it not work at all?
[05:07] <ajeetraj> so it means that ubuntu or any other linux is shit when it comes to use or recieve webcams
[05:07] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just about to start writing a standard webcam driver framework for myself, so I can use my cams
[05:07] <ajeetraj> i am really really frustrated
[05:07] <IdleOne> !language | ajeetraj
[05:07] <ubotu> ajeetraj: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:08] <ajeetraj> i am sorry
[05:08] <LjL> ajeetraj: my webcam works fine and out of the box
[05:08] <ajeetraj> please help me
[05:08] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: I've got a DV camcorder working only by connecting it to the input of a BTV TV card's composite input :)
[05:09] <coNP> LjL: in the box webcams tend to be useless :)
[05:09] <IdleOne> ajeetraj: check out the second link ubotu gave you and see if there is a camera in there that you can get that is supported
[05:09] <ajeetraj> i love ubuntu but sometimes i feel so lonely as all my friends use windows and i am the one who is using it all the time and they laugh at me
[05:09] <Pici> ajeetraj : the problem is that the webcam manufacturers dont release linux drivers, so people are forced to reverse-engineer them to work on Linux, sad to say, its a slow/difficult process and not many cams are supported
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: HAve you tried with EasyCam2 ?
[05:09] <Ayabara> I run ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 6000. Should I install anything other than the default display drivers? Could it help me with performance when playing videos?
[05:09] <grub_booter> IntuitiveNipple: getting it work over firewire isn't difficult...
[05:09] <SushiP> Still trying to get EciAdsl working....
[05:09] <ajeetraj> i know
[05:09] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, according to a forum.. latest jdk solves the problem.. so i'm gonna try that now
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> grub_booter: It is with that cam - it fried it's Firewire output :)
[05:09] <ajeetraj> but there shouldn't be a problem in recieving the webcam don't you think?
[05:09] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: cool, good luck
[05:09] <grub_booter> IntuitiveNipple: ah :-)
[05:09] <ajeetraj> i mean its a primitive thing right?
[05:10] <ajeetraj> i have dell latutude d600
[05:10] <IntuitiveNipple> grub_booter: yeah... it also took down two motherboards before I realised the issue, so it banished to just doing composite now
[05:10] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Gosha|Away about away | Gosha|Away, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:10] <oxygen> all
[05:10] <Pici> ajeetraj : its more complicated than you think
[05:10] <oxygen> i was make it ..
[05:10] <Gosha|Away> i won't check it!
[05:10] <grub_booter> IntuitiveNipple: yeah, i did that back in the early days too :-)
[05:10] <Gosha|Away> .. acutally ..
[05:10] <oxygen> but i cant use 1280x768 :(
[05:10] <Gosha|Away> .. nvm
[05:10] <oxygen> i use 1024x768
[05:10] <oxygen> i can use 1280x768 on gentoo ..
[05:10] <Ayabara> !ati
[05:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:10] <raize> this is horrible but, i dunno where to find the /.thunderbird folder..
[05:11] <ajeetraj> dear intuitivenipple will easycam2 help me to get the webcam from someone?
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: I'm going to use EasyCam2 as the basis for my framework to support more cams - I'm attempting to provide a 'wrapper' around the Windows drivers like ndiswrapper does network card drivers
[05:11] <IdleOne> raize: its ./thunderbird
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: You can try it, but there are no guarantees
[05:11] <LjL> Gosha|Away: well, you might as well not check it, since you've been pointed to it a couple of times already. just stop doing that is my suggestion
[05:11] <dromer> IdleOne: isn't it ./mozilla-thunderbird ?
[05:11] <IdleOne> yeah
[05:12] <ajeetraj> yeah sure
[05:13] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: EasyCam2 compiles and installs source code for various webcam drivers when it discovers those cameras on your system
[05:13] <oxygen> :(
[05:13] <ajeetraj> any help will be really appreciated
[05:13] <oxygen> help me pls
[05:13] <coNP> oxygen: what is your problem?
[05:13] <LjL> Ubotu, tell oxygen about fixres | oxygen, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:13] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: But be warned EasyCam2 can generate a lot of hard-to-solve erros
[05:13] <oFFbeAt> CookedGryphon, do i need to remove jdk 1.5?? or just go for 6 n it'll take care of it?
[05:13] <SushiP> Wish there was something like that for modems....
[05:13] <LjL> oxygen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:13] <ajeetraj> oh so there is no easy way huh?
[05:13] <oxygen> LjL, i used it ..
[05:13] <coNP> oFFbeAt: you can have both on your system, if you want to, I guess
[05:13] <oxygen> but ubuntu use default 1024x768
[05:13] <oxygen> i want to use 1280x768
[05:13] <CookedGryphon> oFFbeAt: if you leave the 1.5 on, do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure java to select which version to use tho
[05:13] <Pici> oxygen : what kind of video card do you have?
[05:13] <IntuitiveNipple> ajeetraj: If you have a camera thats fully supported - probably by checking what Linux Video4Linux supports before buying, you're okay. Otherwise... you're on your onw
[05:13] <oxygen> pici
[05:13] <fuser> anyone have any recommendations for a web based mp3 player that streams from it's local server with playlist support?
[05:14] <raize> i dunno, the link i got to the page about the thunderbird profile help says ./thunderbird
[05:14] <LjL> oxygen: was 1280x768 even offered as a choice?
[05:14] <raize> but i don't exactly know how to get there, from konsole a simple cd ./thunderbird is not doing it.
[05:14] <dinamizador_> OLA
[05:14] <IntuitiveNipple> raise, try ./.thunderbird (there's a DOT after the /)
[05:14] <ajeetraj> oh ok
[05:14] <LjL> why not just .thunderbird? =)
[05:14] <mrodri> ooa ke pasa
[05:14] <dfd> and so nobody know?
[05:14] <ajeetraj> ok
[05:15] <Pici> !es | mrodri
[05:15] <ubotu> mrodri: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:15] <dinamizador_> PO NA
[05:15] <morenita> pona y tu?
[05:15] <omarquez> hola
[05:15] <pperejon> pringao
[05:15] <raize> okie dokie.. trying..
[05:15] <IdleOne> trolls
[05:15] <loren> feo
[05:15] <ahidalgo> pringao tu mamon
[05:15] <ajeetraj> now i can recieve the cam but its really slow as it is way faster than this in windows
[05:15] <IdleOne> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:15] <ajeetraj> wow
[05:15] <mrodri> oloa xulo
[05:15] <zenobia> Did I join the spanish channel 0_o ?
[05:15] <raize> oooo
[05:15] <ajeetraj> after such a long time i am happy
[05:15] <raize> that did it.
[05:15] <morenita> jaja
[05:15] <raize> i'm so windows :(
[05:15] <loren> soys mas feos q un mono
[05:15] <omarquez> que pasa xulop
[05:15] <mrodri> ke pasa na no jajajaja
[05:15] <pperejon> teorin marik
[05:15] <morenita> no teneis verwenza
[05:15] <Pici> zenobia : no, they joined the english channel
[05:15] <dinamizador_> QE DICES IDIOTA OLIVERRRRRR
[05:15] <raize> thanks a lot.. next up, import profile
[05:15] <morenita> capullito
[05:15] <mrodri> lalalaaalall
[05:15] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: In Linux, directories starting with a DOT are hidden by default
[05:16] <loren> duo sacapunta
[05:16] <ahidalgo> illoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:16] <ahidalgo> sds
[05:16] <ahidalgo> d
[05:16] <ahidalgo> sd
[05:16] <ahidalgo> s
[05:16] <ahidalgo> d
[05:16] <ahidalgo> sd
[05:16] <Pici> !ops
[05:16] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:16] <ahidalgo> s
[05:16] <IdleOne> heh a kiddy botnet
[05:16] <ahidalgo> d
[05:16] <pperejon> gjkl
[05:16] <ahidalgo> s
[05:16] <pperejon> hklgj
[05:16] <ahidalgo> d
[05:16] <ahidalgo> s
[05:17] <ahidalgo> d
[05:18] <pperejon> yjdh
[05:18] <ahidalgo> s
[05:18] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: you can use "ls -a" to see them, or in Gnome/Nautilus, enable View/Show Hidden Files
[05:18] <raize> nipple; what's the significance of the preceding dot? i mean.. "./.thunderbird" means one of those is to identify a hidden dir, but the other?
[05:18] <Pici> ty apokryphos
[05:18] <SushiP> Why do people even bother doing that?
[05:18] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: for directory names, a single dot means "this directory" and a double-dot means "parent directory"
[05:18] <BULLE> SushiP: its mostly not their computer or login shell i think
[05:18] <BULLE> SushiP: or they are ust bored
[05:18] <raize> i see
[05:18] <ajeetraj> so is there anyway, i can use the voice chat thing like yahoo in kopete?
[05:18] <selecta_g> hello; can someone point in the right direction?... I want to connect my Nokia N80 to the computer by USB but plugging in has so far only made Ubuntu completely hang...
[05:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> hey, Where can I get a list of ubuntu-compatible wireless cards?
[05:18] <ajeetraj> thank you so much Intuitive
[05:18] <SushiP> Bad way of relieving boredom.
[05:18] <raize> nipple; thanks for the info
[05:18] <BULLE> FlyingSquirrel32: ubuntu help site has supported hardware and wireless info
[05:18] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: The reason you see commands prefixed with "./" is because by default when you type a command Linux doesn't search the directory you're in for that command, unlike Windows.
[05:18] <froh> in other words, if a source package has multiple targets, how do i choose just one?
[05:18] <IntuitiveNipple> raize: Linux only searches the PATH, so unless you add "./:" to your shell PATH, commands in the current directory won't be found
[05:19] <AD17> I am a beginner, have some fooo question, how to install software in ubuntu? not rpm, not ports ?
[05:19] <BULLE> raize: and adding ./ to your path, especialy in the front of the path, might be an issue, on a multiuser system
[05:19] <IdleOne> !repos | AD17
[05:19] <ubotu> AD17: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:19] <Anton99> ???????????
[05:19] <SushiP> AD17, .deb files are usually what you'll download.
[05:19] <raize> bulle; i'm the only one on the system, so if that means no issue, then there probably won't be one..
[05:19] <BULLE> Anton99: grn gurka, med senap
[05:20] <Anton99> how i can upgrade KUbuntu 6.06 to Kubuntu 6.10???
[05:20] <AD17> deb package format? thx,
[05:20] <LjL> !upgrade-#kubuntu | Anton99
[05:20] <ubotu> Anton99: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:20] <IntuitiveNipple> AD17: from the menu, choose System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager
[05:20] <zenobia> Could anyone try to help me please? After a random time my whole system just hangs, I cannot interact anymore. I can see things happening though, irc moving for example. I don't have any idea what triggers this, but only a reboot helps, which is very annoying. Thanks for your help.
[05:20] <BULLE> raize: the issue, is that if you have multiple users, and you put ./ in the front of your dir, and then some other user makes a shellscript called, say "ls" in their dir, if you go to their dir, and type ls, you will execute that shellscript, instead of list the contents of the dir
[05:21] <BULLE> raize: so that script can then remove all your files, make mail world readable, or whatever it likes
[05:21] <AD17> thanks everyone, this chat room is very greate.
[05:21] <raize> bulle; that's bad!
[05:21] <BULLE> raize: yes
[05:21] <Anton99> ok, but if i have kubuntu 6.10 LiveCD ???
[05:21] <heanol> anyone know how i can allow other users on my machine to run stuff on my display? i'm trying to run an x-program with sudo as another (not root) user
[05:22] <BULLE> raize: thats why one should not just mindlessly put ./ in the front of ones path
[05:22] <raize> i'll keep it in mind
[05:22] <raize> thank you
[05:22] <coNP> heanol: xhost +
[05:22] <IdleOne> Anton99: backup /home do a clean install with the cd and then replace /home
[05:22] <Anton99> IdleOne, thx.
[05:22] <SushiP> Anyone who can help me through queries with getting an annoying package to work?
[05:23] <coNP> SushiP: We try to :)
[05:23] <SushiP> I've been trying to get it working for four days.
[05:23] <Anton99> but my home folder is 6.89 GB :(((
[05:23] <coNP> SushiP: what is the package, what are the questions?
[05:23] <mwe> renaming /home is sufficient if you don't reformat
[05:23] <zenobia> Anyone with an idea that could point me in the right direction? This makes my Ubuntu practically unusable :'(.
[05:23] <IdleOne> SushiP: it most be a really good package! what is it?
[05:24] <mwe> then remove the rest from a live cd
[05:24] <SushiP> EciAdsl, It's a driver for my crappy winmodem.
[05:24] <IdleOne> oh
[05:24] <coNP> zenobia: have you tried another kernel versions?
[05:24] <SushiP> The version on the packages site doesn't seem to install, the one on the official EciAdsl site is bugged.
[05:24] <Anton99> mwe: i cannot install kubuntu 6.10 without formatting :(
[05:24] <mwe> Anton99: why not
[05:24] <coNP> Anton99: why not?
[05:25] <zenobia> coNP: yes, I did.
[05:25] <Anton99> mwe: installer crashes :(
[05:25] <b08y_> does any one know an app like that http://digilander.libero.it/acetoneiso/ its like alcohol 120% on windows but FOR GNOME
[05:25] <mwe> Anton99: then reformatting probably wont help
[05:25] <mwe> Anton99: maybe try the alternate CD instead
[05:25] <mwe> !alternate | Anton99
[05:26] <ubotu> Anton99: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:26] <Anton99> ubotu: thanks, but can i install gnome on kubuntu??
[05:27] <BULLE> Anton99: yes
[05:27] <SushiP> Any ideas coNP?
[05:27] <coNP> Anton99: you can install the package ubuntu-desktop (that includes gnome)
[05:27] <gabaryah> i have a question
[05:27] <Anton99> coNP, tkx
[05:27] <coNP> SushiP: sorry, got to got, maybe someone else can answer, tough
[05:28] <mooky> then ask it
[05:28] <gabaryah> can i use beryl & have direct rendering on a ati card?
[05:28] <Crescendo> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5376364 - Wal Mart sells yaoi hentai.
[05:28] <mooky> gabaryah its better to have dri
[05:28] <gabaryah> confuded
[05:28] <gabaryah> what is dri?
[05:29] <mooky> BiGcaT where is soton ?
[05:29] <LjL> direct rendering infrastructure
[05:29] <gabaryah> ahhh
[05:29] <LjL> a wikipedia search will probably help
[05:29] <Anton99> i will installed ubuntu server without x-window...
[05:29] <gabaryah> so how can i setup my ati card to have beryl effects & be able to play WoW
[05:29] <SushiP> LjL: Any idea why when I install the Ubuntu version of EciAdsl it doesn't show up in my usr/bin folder afterwards or in fact anywhere else?
[05:29] <mooky> gabaryah wow isn't really going to happen
[05:30] <gabaryah> i have cedega
[05:31] <Anton99> i'm installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu desktop but why i can install xorg?
[05:31] <mooky> gabaryah your playing with a bad mix
[05:31] <Anton99> i will installed ubuntu server without x-window... i'm installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu desktop but why i can install xorg?
[05:31] <gabaryah> currently using suse 10.2 which is bloated
[05:31] <mooky> gabaryah this is ubuntu support - not suse support
[05:31] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:31] <gabaryah> so all those videos on youtube showing off beryl & playing wow is fake>?
[05:31] <mwe> Anton99: installing any of the -desktop packages intalls Xorg as well
[05:31] <gabaryah> how come they can do both
[05:31] <rosen37> Please my firefox is killed sometimes :s I don t know
[05:31] <shadebug_> gabaryah: use normal wine for wow, cedega's not worth it
[05:31] <gabaryah> ok
[05:31] <mooky> gabaryah its a very hard configuration - and you're not making it easy using ati
[05:31] <rosen37> What can I chek to find the prob?
[05:31] <Anton99> mwe, ??? i cannot run startx (writes bash: command startx not found)
[05:31] <therapy> is it possible to play mms streams with rhythmbox?
[05:31] <LjL> SushiP: i've never heard about that package before, however "dpkg -L eciadsl" will list the files it contains
[05:31] <gabaryah> so i'm better off using Nvidia card mooky
[05:31] <gabaryah> oh well i'll go back to vista
[05:32] <mooky> gabaryah from personal experience MUCH better
[05:32] <tickus> if I want to create a new symlink to a kernel.  where do I create the symlink at  for example ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-server
[05:32] <mooky> gabaryah ok - enjoy vista
[05:32] <SushiP> The config interface file isn't working :/
[05:32] <gabaryah> linux is boring without beryl
[05:32] <mooky> tickus thats kernel headers
[05:32] <mooky> gabaryah ok -
[05:32] <brussel> I was just looking at the fedora support for my printer, mfc-8660dn, and noticed they didn't have it listed. They look like they have excellent printer support and had a page to add printers. Wouldn't let me add a printer because it didn't have support!
[05:32] <RxDx> qual a diferena do Beryl e do Compiz e qual  o melhor
[05:32] <RxDx> ?
[05:32] <newbie001> hello
[05:32] <bkudria> can someone help figure out why fuse/sshfs isn't working?  I run "sshfs remotehost: ~/Media/Server/", and i get the error: "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied".  What's going on?  How can i fix this?
[05:32] <RxDx> wrong channel.. sry =X
[05:32] <newbie001> I made a stupid stupid mistake
[05:32] <mwe> Anton99: It sounds like you didn't succesfully install a desktop environment if startx is not available. usually it will install a graphical login manager as well
[05:33] <bkudria> newbie001: just ask
[05:33] <newbie001> I deleted the symbolic link from libc.so.6 to libc-2.4.so
[05:34] <tickus> mooky ok thanks.  where are the kernel sources.  apt-get install   what do I need to get them..  thanks
[05:34] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:34] <Anton99> mwe: sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop?
[05:34] <newbie001> now I can't restore, I only get this error:
[05:34] <mooky> tickus - can you take a step back and let me know what your trying to do
[05:34] <newbie001> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:34] <mwe> Anton99: no
[05:34] <mooky> newbie001 you need to re-create the link
[05:34] <Anton99> mwe, why?
[05:34] <mwe> Anton99: how did you install ubuntu
[05:34] <Anton99> mwe, from alternate ced
[05:34] <Luceos> Trying to install getting this error: PPCI: JMB26x: Enabling dual function on 0000:02:00.0 ; anyone got a clue?
[05:34] <Anton99> e
[05:34] <mwe> Anton99: because it's apt-get install package.
[05:34] <mwe> Anton99: why would you install all three, though?
[05:34] <AndyBe> got wired problems with my sound card 6.10 / 7.0.4
[05:34] <newbie001> mooky: the problem is I can't because of that error, every time I try to use ln I get the missing object error
[05:34] <mooky> newbie001 ahh right
[05:34] <Anton99> mwe: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop? i need KDE, GNOME & Xfce
[05:35] <mooky> newbie001 boot off the livecd - mount your file systems - recreate
[05:35] <mwe> Anton99: in that case, yes
[05:35] <newbie001> ok, thanks
[05:35] <Anton99> mwe: and i have 500 GB large disk
[05:35] <newbie001> I'll do it
[05:35] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:35] <LjL> Anton99: that sounds good. however, perhaps you want to use aptitude, if you intend to remove some of those later
[05:35] <Anton99> and unlimited broadband :)
[05:35] <gabaryah> can i setup AIGLx use beryl & be able to play 3d games at the same time?
[05:35] <mick666> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:35] <mwe> Anton99: go ahead then
[05:35] <tickus> mooky   Im installing virtual box on my server.  I have it installed fine on my desktop but I just double clicked the .deb file.  Im doing this from command line and its trying to point to /usr/src/linux I want it to point to linux-headers-2.6.17-10-server
[05:35] <Anton99> thx
[05:35] <mooky> gabaryah - you JUST asked - no
[05:36] <Luceos> Trying to install getting this error: PPCI: JMB26x: Enabling dual function on 0000:02:00.0 ; anyone got a clue?
[05:36] <mooky> tickus symlink is the best way
[05:36] <Anton99> what is BusyBox ????????
[05:36] <mooky> Anton99 mini linux environment
[05:36] <tickus> mooky.   ok.   What directory do I need to be in when creating the new symlink?
[05:36] <LjL> Anton99: a little program that puts a few of the typical Unix tools (in stripped-down versions often) under one roof, benefitting size a lot
[05:36] <mooky> tickus doesn't matter
[05:37] <Anton99> aa... and why bootloader i can use to boot from floppy?
[05:37] <arsenip> is it possible to change the unbuntu (gnome) style loading screen (ie after logging in on gdm..)
[05:37] <arsenip> "simply"
[05:37] <B_166-ER-X> IntuitiveNipple 'I'm back' and it didnt work, your new 'interfaces' file didnt work :/ , i tried a few things again, and ..nothing. i have the output of 'ifdown and ifup' here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2632/ (still no internet, on a edgy install that was working before)
[05:37] <Garito> hi all
[05:37] <mooky> arsenip yup - the splash changer is your friend in the login setup application
[05:37] <chavo> gabaryah, just hit ctrl-altf1 and login there, then start a new x session for you games that's what I do
[05:37] <tickus> mooky so I can just type:     ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-server   from anywhere and it should know
[05:37] <LjL> !info gnome-splashscreen-manager  | arsenip
[05:37] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[05:37] <arsenip> thanks
[05:37] <arsenip> :)
[05:37] <Garito> which option need to install a server with the alternate version? (on vmware)
[05:37] <Garito> thanks!
[05:37] <mooky> tickus no - ln -a $TARGET $DESTINATION
[05:37] <DBFT_> how do you mount an iso?
[05:37] <bkudria> can someone help figure out why fuse/sshfs isn't working?  I run "sshfs remotehost: ~/Media/Server/", and i get the error: "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied".  What's going on?  How can i fix this?
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Luceos: See this big report: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/72561
[05:37] <IdleOne> !eyecandy | arsenip
[05:37] <ubotu> arsenip: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: I was wondering about your progress... let me look
[05:38] <mooky> oops tickus should be "ln -s" sorry
[05:38] <mooky> tickus typo
[05:38] <Anton99> why bootloader i can use to boot kernel from floppy?
[05:38] <chavo> DBFT_, sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /mount/point
[05:38] <mooky> Anton99 grub
[05:38] <DBFT_> thankyou chavo :)
[05:38] <tickus> mooky.  got it thanks
[05:38] <mooky> tickus cool
[05:38] <Anton99> how device is floppy in grub???
[05:38] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:38] <Anton99> mooky: how device is floppy in grub???
[05:38] <Anton99> (fd0) ?????
[05:39] <mooky> CanadianMan I know how to use /ignore with you asking every 60 seconds
[05:39] <snide> GUYS AGHHHH  DVD::RIP says "rar command (for vobsub compression): rar-2.80 not found : NOT Ok"  went to synaptic and found no rar like that version .. only higher. why dont the DVDRIP accept the higher version?
[05:39] <mooky> Anton99 I /think/ its still classed as a hard disk
[05:39] <snide> if not, well what other DVD rip related software Do you guys use?
[05:39] <luis> hola algien de mexico
[05:39] <Garito> anyone can point me to a way to install the edgy server with the alternate discs? (on vmware)
[05:39] <Garito> thanks!
[05:39] <IdleOne> !es | luis
[05:39] <ubotu> luis: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:39] <mooky> Garito insert cCD - boot machine
[05:39] <romedog> !dvd
[05:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:39] <romedog> !dvd ripper
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <snide> damn
[05:40] <snide> !ripper
[05:40] <Garito> mooky sure but install the desktop version
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <mjr> snide, is that a problem? It's not like vobsub compression is a must (or to have it automated)
[05:40] <mwe> !msgthebot | snide
[05:40] <ubotu> snide: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:40] <romedog> what do we put for dvd ripping and burning
[05:40] <CanadianMan> mooky, i wait until my question reaches the top of the screen and then paste again i didn't really think it was spamming, i was hoping that maybe the people Join this channel would know the answer maybe
[05:40] <ubuntuna> !video codec
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <LjL> !rip
[05:40] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[05:40] <romedog> !rip
[05:40] <mooky> Garito download the alt cd - insert CD - boot machiner
[05:40] <romedog> thanks
[05:40] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ubuntuna about codecs | ubuntuna, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:40] <Garito> mooky I do that but install the desktop version
[05:40] <romedog> !codec
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <mooky> Garito download the server cd - insert the cd - boot machine
[05:41] <romedog> !video codec
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <IdleOne> !codecs | romedog
[05:41] <Garito> sure
[05:41] <ubotu> romedog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:41] <Garito> I do that
[05:41] <snide> hmm
[05:43] <Garito> but this disk install the desktop version
[05:43] <lts> Hi
[05:43] <mooky> Garito then you have not downloaded the server version
[05:43] <Garito> I download the desktop version (I write with in)
[05:43] <Garito> then the server edition
[05:43] <Garito> and on a computer works ok
[05:43] <lts> Problem installing Ubuntu 6.10 on toshiba satellite a55, does anybody know anything about?
[05:43] <Garito> but I would like to install it on wmware
[05:43] <Garito> or virtualbox
[05:43] <mooky> Garito so ? install it in vmware
[05:43] <oxygen> i use
[05:43] <mooky> lts tell us the problem
[05:43] <oxygen> 1024x800
[05:43] <lts> it loads the cd, and after 3 min. it goes to X, but it stops there
[05:43] <mooky> lts we can't help with "there is a problem"
[05:43] <oxygen> :)
[05:43] <sleepy745> anyone have kiba-dock?
[05:43] <lts> it loads gnome for 5 imn
[05:43] <Garito> but when I install it it installs the desktop version
[05:43] <oxygen> but i want to use 70HZ
[05:43] <mooky> lts soujds like its just going slow
[05:43] <Garito> I need the server one
[05:43] <oxygen> how can i do ..
[05:43] <mooky> Garito your using the wrong image to install into vmware
[05:43] <Garito> a
[05:43] <mooky> Garito you need the server image - or boot the vm from the server image
[05:43] <lts> no, I had no problem with slack 10.2 and 11, its just ubuntu
[05:43] <Garito> there are more that one alternate
[05:43] <Garito> ?
[05:43] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:43] <Garito> the server image raises an interrupt error after install it on vmware...
[05:43] <cmt^^> what's a good dvd-ripping tool for ubuntu?
[05:43] <lts> after 15 minutes of "trying to load" the X is going down.
[05:43] <mooky> Garito there is desktop - desktop alt, and then the server build
[05:43] <rebz> when ubuntu loads, the splash screen takes a real long time to go away, is there any way to find out what programs that splash is showing? there's a 5th one that blinks on right before the splash disappears
[05:43] <farruinn> Trying to suppress output of warnings from make with make | egrep -v '[0-9] +: warning' but it's still showing warnings. Anyone know a better way?
[05:43] <lts> is there any way to install ubuntu with no X?
[05:43] <rebz> and i'd like to find out what that
[05:43] <mooky> Garito get support from #vmware then
[05:44] <Garito> a
[05:44] <Garito> thanks mooky!
[05:44] <tommason> I am trying to build and install apache2. I downloaded and tried to configure using ./configure --enable-so... I get the following error  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:44] <Garito> bye!
[05:44] <mooky> lts the alt cd
[05:44] <mooky> lts or try booting with safe graphics mode
[05:44] <Bobby_Easland> Hello everyone...does anyone have any hints/tips/tricks for getting the new Flash 9 to output audio?
[05:44] <AnkleBiter> err i need extreme help regards wifi!!! i got a connection working and now upon opening an internet related program, the program crashes!!!! help!!!!!!!!
[05:44] <mooky> tommason your missing the build essentials package
[05:44] <EnsignRedshirt> cmt^^: I haven't used it, but people often refer to acidrip.
[05:44] <mooky> AnkleBiter don't need !!!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !! !!!
[05:44] <lts> will do, I have no connection to download anything
[05:45] <mooky> lts try safe graphics mode
[05:45] <rebz> AnkleBiter, how are you on here!!! !!!!!!
[05:45] <AnkleBiter> ???
[05:45] <AnkleBiter> what you mean
[05:45] <rebz> irc is an internet related program
[05:45] <rellik_> I was trying to mount two drives and my computer froze so I restarted..  now my BIOS doesn't recognise my hdc, and I can't mount my hdd (keep getting buffer IO errors). How do I fix them?
[05:45] <AnkleBiter> i know im on another pc
[05:46] <rebz> ah
[05:46] <mooky> rellik_ if your bios doesn't see it - its broke
[05:46] <CanadianMan> anyone know how to fix this problem? Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[05:46] <AnkleBiter> this is kind of random, anyonne know how to fix?
[05:46] <andcor> Hey, anybody knows if there is a problem with dvdcss in 64 bit ubuntu ?
[05:46] <mooky> andcor there can be
[05:46] <mooky> AnkleBiter you've not asked a question
[05:46] <AnkleBiter> i have
[05:47] <mooky> you said you need extreme help with wifi
[05:47] <andcor> mooky: Do you know how to fix it ?
[05:47] <mooky> thats not a question
[05:47] <AnkleBiter> err i need extreme help regards wifi! i got a connection working and now upon opening an internet related program, the program crashes! help
[05:47] <mooky> andcor depends what the problem is
[05:47] <AnkleBiter> ^^^ thats asking for help!
[05:47] <EnsignRedshirt> AnkleBiter: *Which* 'internet related program'?
[05:47] <nads> hey guys.... where can i find a good visual debugger for c?
[05:47] <mooky> AnkleBiter sounds like a driver issue although I can't see why that would make all 3rd party applications creash
[05:48] <mooky> nads gdb works fine
[05:48] <Bobby_Easland> Flash 9 does not output sound...tried various fixes posted and nothing has worked so far...anyone got any suggestions?
[05:48] <AnkleBiter> EnsignRedshirt: firefox, add/remove programs etc
[05:48] <nads> mooky:  anything else?
[05:48] <IdleOne> mooky: that was a question and how come you arent psychic and couldnt figure out that wifi meant application :P
[05:48] <mooky> IdleOne I am weak
[05:48] <mooky> nads sorry I use gdb only really
[05:48] <mooky> nads there are others but they don't spring to mind
[05:48] <Bnirkow> hello
[05:48] <andcor> mooky: I can play  unencrypted dvd's, but when I put a encrypted dvd in the device, it start making funny noises like it isn't able to read it, and uses very much cpu power
[05:49] <Bnirkow> how to use ubotu??
[05:49] <AnkleBiter> does anyone have an idea that will reinstall firefox etc from the ubuntu disc?
[05:49] <mooky> andcor first suggestion is to search the wiki for "restricted formats" and look a thte dvd link on that page - that has a link and alternative instructions for x86_^4
[05:49] <IdleOne> !bot | Bnirkow
[05:49] <ubotu> Bnirkow: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:49] <AnkleBiter> !ubotu
[05:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:49] <nads> i used DDD for a while... is there anything similar to that?
[05:50] <andcor> I've also tested the drive on another platform where it worked
[05:50] <mooky> can we please use ubot with > redirects, the channel doesn't need to see the answer for every question anyone asks
[05:50] <bakert> Why can't I chown a file that I own to make it belong to another user?
[05:50] <mooky> ubot is getting boarder line of flooding
[05:50] <Bnirkow> !ati
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <rosendahl> !<factoid>
[05:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:50] <rosendahl> !<factoid>
[05:51] <AnkleBiter> !firefox
[05:51] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:51] <apokryphos> rosendahl: ?
[05:51] <apokryphos> mooky: how?
[05:51] <mooky> can we please get a grip on ubuot usage
[05:51] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[05:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:51] <mooky> apokryphos how what ?
[05:52] <lts> update do toshiba problem: graphical safe mode won't work, as well as acpi turned off
[05:52] <mooky> lts good call on acpi - yoru best bet is to try the alt CD. What graphics card is in your laptop. ATI I bet
[05:52] <AnkleBiter> can i fix built in programs such as firefox using the ubuntu disc
[05:52] <lts> mooky, it's intel 815
[05:52] <lts> 915, sorry
[05:52] <mooky> AnkleBiter define "fix"
[05:53] <mooky> lts thats normally quite good
[05:53] <mooky> lts I've run with that chip many times with no problems
[05:53] <lts> I had no problem on other laptops (even with ati)
[05:53] <Crescendo> What's a good volume leveler for Ubuntu?  I want to level out the volume across my entire music collection.
[05:53] <chrismhampson> anyone know of a good distro that will run well on a pentium III with 256MB
[05:53] <mooky> chrismhampson ubuntu
[05:53] <IdleOne> chrismhampson: Ubuntu
[05:53] <Crescendo> I also need an Ubuntu tool to open .bkf files... anyone have any ideas?
[05:53] <lts> it's not the gfx, it looks like cd issue.
[05:53] <AnkleBiter> mooky as i said it opens as a window in the centre of the screen, really small and only has the X button, the page is also blank
[05:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ales|away about away | ales|away, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:54] <chrismhampson> mooky, I'm afraid it is very slow!
[05:54] <finalbeta> !paste
[05:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:54] <mooky> lts yes, I see what your saying
[05:54] <mjr> Crescendo, mp3gain and vorbisgain can insert replaygain tags to your songs for that very purpose (the replaygain tags need to be supported by the player, tho)
[05:54] <ales> sorry
[05:54] <mooky> chrismhampson try an older release
[05:54] <oxygen> all
[05:54] <AnkleBiter> !away about away
[05:54] <ubotu> away: A terminal locking program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[05:54] <oxygen> i want to use 75 mhz for my xorg
[05:55] <oxygen> so how can i change HorizSync     31-101
[05:55] <oxygen>     VertRefresh    60-160
[05:55] <lts> I won't be able to download anything right now.
[05:55] <mooky> AnkleBiter can you PLEASE use redirects using ubuntu - the whole channel doesn't need to see it
[05:55] <mooky> lts yeah, I hear you
[05:55] <AnkleBiter> how?
[05:55] <oxygen> what can i do .. for 75 mhz
[05:55] <AnkleBiter> sorry im new to ircs
[05:55] <mooky> !ati >AnkleBiter
[05:55] <cntb> \o how to back up MBR with dd from rescueshell from alternateCD ?
[05:55] <Garito> hi again
[05:55] <Garito> no help on #vmware
[05:55] <uttara> Is it possible to install the official bittorrent client, that is available from www.bittorrent.com
[05:55] <mooky> Garito just sit and wait in there
[05:56] <mooky> cntb dd
[05:56] <mooky> uttara unwise to use software outside the repo's
[05:56] <CanadianMan> any body know anything about Module.symvers?
[05:56] <uttara> how can I configure the port numbers on the default client provided in ubuntu
[05:56] <cntb> mooky know the whole line ? dd /dev/sda or hda and how many bytes?
[05:56] <ericu> I'm new to linux and command line, how do I compile and run a java source code?
[05:57] <mooky> cntb I think the boot sector is 1024 bytes
[05:57] <mooky> cntb wikipedia will give you that info
[05:57] <Garito> there are no activity on #vmware
[05:57] <mooky> ericu join #java
[05:57] <ericu> thanks
[05:57] <mooky> Garito sit and wait
[05:57] <cntb> MBR ?
[05:57] <IdleOne> ubotu: tell ericu about compile
[05:57] <IdleOne> ubotu: tell ericu about java
[05:57] <mooky> cntb yeah
[05:57] <norf-ubu> hi - simple yes or no - is it possible to log an ubuntu box onto a windows domain ?
[05:58] <mooky> norf-ubu yes
[05:58] <cntb> MBR 512 or 1024 bytes  ? sure about info ?
[05:58] <mooky> cntb check wiki pedia
[05:58] <norf-ubu> mooky: is there an online "how to" for that ?
[05:58] <mooky> norf-ubu not that I'm aware of
[05:58] <lts> norf-ubu, check doc's for samba
[05:59] <norf-ubu> mooky: cheers - on my way
[05:59] <IdleOne> !samba > norf-ubu
[05:59] <mooky> norf-ubu it also differs if its a win2k or win 2003 domain
[05:59] <ericu> it says that I need to be identified to join channel #java, what does that mean?
[05:59] <zenobia> Hello, does anyone know of a way to execute a command before a system logs out?
[05:59] <Crescendo> What's a good volume leveler for Ubuntu?  I want to level out the volume across my entire music collection.
[05:59] <mooky> ericu join the irc channel called #java
[05:59] <lts> zenobia, add it to rc.6
[05:59] <IdleOne> ericu: type /msg nickserv help
[05:59] <mooky> zenobia .logout in your home dir
[05:59] <zenobia> Ok, thanks a bunch!
[06:00] <mooky> lts thats going to be on reboot - not logout
[06:00] <ericu> k thnx
[06:00] <lts> sorry mooky, too many problem for today
[06:00] <zenobia> Would the logout script be included in the reboot?
[06:00] <mooky> lts I know your suffering
[06:00] <mooky> zenobia no - as thats a reboot - not a logout
[06:00] <chrisloukas> hi
[06:00] <mooky> chrisloukas hi
[06:01] <IdleOne> heya
[06:01] <zenobia> Well, it could have been the lgout script is run while the system shuts down :)
[06:01] <mooky> zenobia no - thats a shutdown - not a logout
[06:01] <mooky> logout and shutdown are not releated in any way
[06:01] <norf-ubu> cheers peeps!
[06:01] <mooky> norf-ubu good luck
[06:01] <Instabin> !network install
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <zenobia> What I actually want to do, mooky, is to save my gnome session before I log out or generally exit ubuntu.
[06:02] <Instabin> Is there anyway to do a network install of ubuntu
[06:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell instabin about minimal | instabin, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:03] <mooky> zenobia change your gnome setttings to save on exit
[06:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell instabin about install | instabin, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:03] <noobian> hi all
[06:03] <andcor> !dvd
[06:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:03] <mooky> noobian hello
[06:03] <cntb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record mooky 512 bytes final
[06:03] <mooky> cntb cool
[06:03] <zenobia> Thanks a lot Mooky, you made life easier :) I was about to manually edit my logout scripts and such. Thanks again.
[06:03] <fbc> How do you install the openoffice RPM language packs??
[06:03] <mooky> zenobia no problem
[06:03] <mooky> fbc you don't install rpm's
[06:03] <mooky> fbc use the langauge packs in the ubuntu repo's
[06:03] <Garito> mooky I can't wait forever and the #vmware has no activity
[06:04] <Garito> no help from communty
[06:04] <mooky> Garito wait in #vmware
[06:04] <oFF-b3At> what's the genome download manager called?
[06:04] <mooky> Garito there will be activity in there
[06:04] <Garito> no activity
[06:04] <Garito> you could see that
[06:04] <mooky> Garito there will be
[06:04] <Garito> nope
[06:04] <noobian> on edgy i can't download two or more copies of bittorrent i get this erro "Couldn't listen 98 Address already in use". What wrong?
[06:04] <mooky> Garito thats the pain of "free support" you have to wait for people to be awake
[06:04] <mooky> Garito or you can get paid support from vmware
[06:04] <Jowi> fbc, which one?
[06:05] <Garito> yes
[06:05] <Garito> like on windows
[06:05] <Garito> :)
[06:05] <mooky> noobian a BT client takes the port - you can only use one client at once
[06:05] <mooky> noobian although one client can open many torrents
[06:05] <raize> woot! i got my profiles back in thunderbird, thanks for your help all. the software itself seems to be a bit on the brokenside now.. but having gone through it once i think i can remove, reinstall, and import my profiles and all that again quite easily.
[06:06] <noobian> bah. on dapper i just right click open and was ok
[06:06] <mooky> noobian why did you upgrade ?
[06:06] <noobian> mooky: thanks
[06:06] <Jowi> fbc, which language pack?
[06:06] <noobian> mooky: thats the right quesion :P
[06:06] <nukeDev> !mp3
[06:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:06] <Garito> mooky do you see activity on the #vmware? (perhaps my gaim is crazy?)
[06:06] <nukeDev> hey all, hows it going?
[06:06] <mooky> Garito I see lots of users, no activity
[06:06] <Garito> a ok
[06:07] <Garito> my gaim works ok
[06:07] <newbie001> hi, I tried to do an update today and my libc library got messed up
[06:07] <Garito> thanks mooky!
[06:07] <nukeDev> like normal
[06:07] <newbie001> I am trying to repair it apt-get install -f
[06:07] <cntb> is activating  a boot partition written inside 512 bytes of MBR ?
[06:07] <mooky> cntb I don't think so, but I don;t know
[06:07] <newbie001> but I keep getting the same error: that glibc was found in an unexpected location and I should remove it
[06:08] <newbie001> does anyone have any ideas?
[06:08] <mooky> newbie001 glibc and libc are two different things
[06:08] <mooky> newbie001 can you be clear about what your talking about
[06:08] <newbie001> yes, but that's the error I'm getting...
[06:08] <newbie001> the problem is this:
[06:08] <mooky> newbie001 how did you update from dapper to edgy ?
[06:08] <neocortex> hello! does anyone have remedy for that annoying bug of evolution that crashes on exit?
[06:09] <newbie001> no, it wasn't from dapper to edgy, it was an update in edgy, there were some packages to update today
[06:09] <mooky> aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5]  has joined #ubuntu
[06:09] <mooky> oops
[06:09] <mooky> newbie001 ooh, I see
[06:09] <newbie001> but somehow the update wasn't succesful
[06:10] <newbie001> so I was instructed by the program to do:
[06:10] <newbie001> sudo apt-get install -f
[06:10] <Pici> can you paste the exact error message you got into pastebin?
[06:10] <Pici> !pastebin | newbie001
[06:10] <ubotu> newbie001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <Pici> if its more than 1 line of course, otherwise just put it here
[06:10] <mooky> ughhhhhh ubotu is getting REALLY annoying. I'm out of here
[06:11] <newbie001> ok, I'll reset the machine because I'm using the live cd
[06:11] <Instabin> mooky whats your problem
[06:11] <newbie001> because I can't get to gnome
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> ubotu-phobia?
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phobia? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <Pici> hehe
[06:12] <raize> okay, next major issue for me is getting skype working in kubuntu. doesn't seem to be easy for many people. i've installed it following the recommended edgy eft install methods using the .deb package, but when i try to run it, the icon just bounces around near my cursor a bit, and then it disappears and i get nothing.. ideas why?
[06:12] <newbie001> I'll copy everything in an archive and use a pastebin
[06:12] <newbie001> to show you everything
[06:12] <newbie001> see you soon
[06:12] <neocortex> once again: does anyone have remedy for that annoying bug of evolution that crashes on exit?
[06:12] <jamesbrose> Anybody know how to remove ubuntu-desktop and all its packages?
[06:12] <randb> hi all
[06:12] <Pici> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[06:13] <knight> can anyone direct me to get a good diary software in ubuntu?
[06:13] <HymnToLife> jamesbrose, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:13] <IdleOne> !diary
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <neocortex> ok, no luck for the evolution-bug. see you ...
[06:13] <neocortex> bye
[06:13] <randb> anyone here want to answer a few questions from a 'virgin' linux user?
[06:13] <IdleOne> ask
[06:14] <maurs> :)
[06:14] <randb> well, fist of all can i change the 'theme' if i install ubuntu
[06:14] <IdleOne> yes
[06:14] <tommason> mooky: When you told me that I was missing build essentials, did you mean for ubuntu in general or did you mean for apache?
[06:14] <ericu> how do I search for a file?
[06:15] <raize> hmm
[06:15] <raize> !skype
[06:15] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:15] <randb> ok, and second i have a hdd with like 3 partitions, my windows install, (i can copletely lose this, theres no important data on this partition) and two others, all are ntfs
[06:15] <tommason> skype has a .deb package
[06:15] <randb> if i install ubuntu will it affect the other two?
[06:16] <Jowi> randb, if you chose not to touch those partitions they will not be affected
[06:16] <randb> nice, so, the iso thats downloading atm, that will boot from a dvd-r yeah, because i dont have any cd-r's atm?
[06:16] <knight> anyone using a good diary sotware in ubuntu?
[06:16] <Jowi> randb, at install time you will get the option to partition manually, do so and you will see which ones are the ntfs and which are not.
[06:17] <nivekz_> Hello. Will there be 6.10.1?
[06:17] <randb> ok, um, all 3 are ntfs, but as long as i can keep the two partitions and just erase my windows partition thats ok
[06:17] <randb> :)
[06:17] <luis> Hi guys- need help testing server. Could someone browse to http://project1.zapto.org and tell me what you see?
[06:17] <nsirota> I am installing ubuntu on one of my boxes, and it doesnt ask me for a username during install, just a password.  Is there a default username that it assigns?
[06:18] <randb> Not Found
[06:18] <randb> The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server.
[06:18] <randb> Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.4.4 PHP/4.4.4-8 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at project1.zapto.org Port 80
[06:18] <IdleOne> knight: apt-cache search diary
[06:18] <Bnirkow> hello, i have installed ati drivers but i can`t change resolution of my sreen
[06:18] <knight> IdleOne: ive found  tdiary but thers not a good manual page for that
[06:19] <luis> Thanks randb.  I am a moron!
[06:19] <EnsignRedshirt> IdleOne: Doesn't apt-cache only search the installed packages?
[06:19] <randb> :S
[06:19] <nsirota> Bnirkow, have you checked your xorg.config?  You can only set resolutions specified in this file
[06:19] <randb> sorry, didnt mean to offend you
[06:19] <Pici> !fixres | try this Bnirkow
[06:19] <ubotu> try this Bnirkow: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:19] <tommason> I can't see to configure php 5.2. I get the same error as I did with apache2
[06:19] <IdleOne> knight: try doing a search in synaptic
[06:19] <Bnirkow> nsirota: thanks for tip
[06:19] <nsirota> ;)
[06:19] <IdleOne> EnsignRedshirt: if it does then tdiary is installed on my system without my knoledge
[06:19] <nsirota> I am installing ubuntu on one of my boxes, and it doesnt ask me for a username during install, just a password.  Is there a default username that it assigns?
[06:20] <tommason> the error is :    C compiler cannot create executables.
[06:20] <LjL> Ubotu, tell tommason about build-essential | tommason, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:20] <LjL> tommason: couldn't you perhaps just use the apache and the php that come with Ubuntu anyway?
[06:20] <Pici> nsirota : what version are you trying to install?
[06:21] <nsirota> edgy
[06:21] <tommason> no I need php 5.2
[06:21] <randb> any way i can have a similar thing to the 'dock' on os x?
[06:21] <tommason> LjL: thanks
[06:21] <EnsignRedshirt> IdleOne: Nevermind... I spoke too soon.
[06:21] <nsirota> i've never run into this before, thats why im kind of confused
[06:21] <randb> like just a few icons that change size/bouce when i click them ect?
[06:21] <pike_> EnsignRedshirt: be a man and grep packagename /var/lib/apt/lists/* ;p
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> pike_: :)
[06:22] <Pici> nsirota : Neither have I, it should ask you for a password, or at least Dapper did, I havent run an edgy install from scratch
[06:22] <fbc> Jowi: spanish
[06:22] <Bnirkow> but where is xorg.config ... ;p
[06:22] <nsirota> /etc/X11/xorg.config
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> pike_: grep is for lazy bums. Just read the whole damn file.
[06:22] <fbc> Jowi:  That particular machine does not have internet access.. so how do I download the debs..
[06:23] <nsirota> Bnirkow, if you're ever looking for a file type "locate file_name"
[06:23] <Bnirkow> xsirota: thanks
[06:23] <Bnirkow> nsirota: thanks
[06:24] <nsirota> Bnirkow, you can also run the wizard config by typeing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:24] <Jowi> fbc, use "sudo apt-get -d openoffice.org-l10n-es". you will find the deb in /var/cache/apt/archives. you install it on the other machine with "sudo dpkg -i packagename"
[06:24] <Pici> fyi, the filename is xorg.conf not config
[06:24] <roxlu> hi there! what is a good torrent client?
[06:24] <nsirota> that will reconfigure your display settings, including resolution
[06:24] <HymnToLife> roxlu, KTorrent
[06:24] <roxlu> thanx
[06:25] <nsirota> Pici: oops, so used to just tabbing through file names =P
[06:25] <elyon225> Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...
[06:25] <Jowi> fbc, (after you copied the file over to that machine of course)
[06:25] <lts> elyon225, what sound card do you have?
[06:25] <Amod> hi i have just installed firefox in diff directory
[06:26] <Amod> problem is it is not showing the local language fonts on webpages
[06:26] <elyon225> lts: It's a generic PCI (detected as Ensoniq PCI)
[06:26] <Amod> which it does in old version of firefox
[06:26] <Amod> what might be the problem
[06:26] <Instabin> can i mirror the ubuntu repositories
[06:26] <elyon225> Amod: Did you remove the old version first?
[06:26] <Amod> no i have renamed it
[06:27] <Bnirkow> nsirota: can You tell me what it looks, when standart res is active? (paste line)
[06:27] <Amod> and changed the links to new one
[06:27] <Amod> i mean to direct to new dir
[06:27] <AnkleBiter> help, my programs are quiting themselves randomly, anyone have any ideas?
[06:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell mzanfardino-away about away | mzanfardino-away, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:27] <elyon225> Amod: I would imagine it is still using the old version's ~/.mozilla directory for all the settings.
[06:27] <oxygen> hello
[06:27] <Amod> ohh i will try that
[06:27] <oxygen> how can i remove boot splash on ubuntu
[06:27] <Amod> thank you
[06:27] <Garito> well, I wait 30 minutes but no activity on #vmware
[06:27] <oxygen> i want to remove ubuntu boot splash
[06:28] <Garito> perhaps I can considere that there are no help on this channel today
[06:28] <Garito> ?
[06:28] <cntb> I want in rescue shell to ensure re-install  grub boot second stage on /dev/hda6 in alternate CD any ideas guys ?
[06:28] <Jowi> oxygen, in /boot/grub/menu.lst you will find the word "splash" at the end of the kernel line. remove that word.
[06:29] <fbc> Jowi: thanks!!
[06:29] <nsirota> Bnirkow: sorry not sure what you mean
[06:29] <oxygen> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[06:30] <upd> bah
[06:30] <oxygen> do i remove "ro quiet splash"
[06:30] <upd> grub sux
[06:30] <Pici> oxygen : no just 'splash'
[06:30] <upd> why it must be install grub if  have only 1 sys
[06:30] <riotkittie> what does 'quiet' do?
[06:30] <oxygen> ok
[06:30] <Garito> anyone can help me? I try to install edgy on a vmware workstation
[06:30] <elyon225> Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...
[06:30] <Bnirkow> nsirota: what i have to do, to change resolution
[06:30] <AnkleBiter> HELP! My programs are quiting themselves!
[06:30] <oxygen> tnx
[06:31] <Garito> but after installation it raises an interrupt error
[06:31] <cntb> I want in rescue shell to ensure re-install  grub boot second stage on /dev/hda6 in alternate CD any ideas guys ?
[06:31] <tommason> lol.. now I am getting another error when trying to compile php..
[06:31] <AnkleBiter> HELP! My programs are quiting themselves! what do i do?!?!?!?
[06:31] <tommason> checking lex output file root... ./configure: 1: lex: not found
[06:31] <tommason> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[06:32] <lts> AnkleBiter, any output? errors?
[06:32] <riotkittie> AnkleBiter: are you getting some kind of error message?
[06:32] <leafw> how can I query a package to find out which programs will it install, such as laptop-mode package ?
[06:32] <elyon225> AnkleBiter: I get the same thing quite often... no messages.  Pretty frustrating, huh? ;)
[06:32] <elyon225> leafw: You using gnome?
[06:33] <AnkleBiter> well the add/remove programs quits after 1second and firefox opens as a really small box and i stretch it open and its a blank page with only a X button
[06:33] <riotkittie> leafw: apt-cache depends <package>
[06:33] <Garito> joer
[06:33] <lts> cntb, it' sprobably not official way, but you can mount your partition to some directory, chroot to it, and then "grub-install hd0"
[06:33] <leafw> ok, thanks
[06:33] <lts> cntb, or whatever drive it is
[06:34] <elyon225> AnkleBiter: lol I had that problem with Firefox too...
[06:34] <m0Z> hi. I am new to linux and ubuntu. Im trying to install freeglut. i've downloaded a .tar.gz file that i've extracted. when i run ./configure i get the following error... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. anyone knows the issue?
[06:34] <AnkleBiter> elyon225: any ideas how to fix it?
[06:34] <lts> AnkleBiter, open it in terminal and see what the last messages are
[06:34] <cntb> lts sounds ok and it wont touch (hd0,0) and MBR which I kept for WIndows ?
[06:34] <nsirota> Bnirkow: press alt+ctrl+F2, this will take you to the console
[06:35] <AnkleBiter> lts: ok
[06:35] <elyon225> AnkleBiter: Nah, I installed Kubuntu instead ;)
[06:35] <AnkleBiter> lol
[06:35] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: Isn't there a freeglut package in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:35] <nsirota> Bnirkow: then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:35] <newbie001> !pastebin
[06:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:35] <nsirota> Bnirkow: it will take you through a long config wizard
[06:35] <tommason> m0z: just had the same issue check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[06:35] <m0Z> thank you
[06:35] <lts> cntb, it will touch MBR. But if you want to change the menu option, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:35] <nsirota> Bnirkow: if your video drivers are ok, and its just the resolution, then dont change anything, and skip through to the end
[06:36] <nsirota> Bnirkow: the last portion of the wizard will autodetect your monitor and allow to you select resolutions
[06:36] <oxygen> i removed splash line but
[06:36] <newbie001> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2637/
[06:36] <oxygen> it s not work
[06:36] <oxygen> :(
[06:36] <newbie001> there my error
[06:36] <AnkleBiter> lts: nope no error messages or anything
[06:36] <newbie001> I can't get to X now
[06:36] <Bnirkow> nsirota: in xorg.conf i have detected normaly my monitor, card etc
[06:37] <newbie001> And I don't get any error in the logs
[06:37] <riotkittie> oxygen: you are still getting a splash?
[06:37] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: edgy has freeglut3, if that is any help.
[06:37] <Bnirkow> nsirota: settings in this file seems to be normal
[06:37] <peterlyberth> Is there any way, to change the default Ubuntu look, when adding new users?
[06:37] <lts> AnkleBiter, did you install something or remove from your system recently?
[06:37] <oxygen> yes
[06:38] <AnkleBiter> lts| no
[06:38] <oxygen> i want to remove splash
[06:38] <leafw> how come sudo /etc/init.d/laptop-mode status'  does not print anything?
[06:38] <tommason> any ideas as to what this error means when I try to configure php: checking lex output file root... ./configure: 1: lex: not found
[06:38] <tommason> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[06:38] <m0Z> EnsignRedshirt today is my first day using ubuntu and linux, so im not exactly sure what you mean :P
[06:38] <Garito> how can I install edgy server on vmware and a pentium m?
[06:38] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:38] <m0Z> 6.10
[06:38] <Bnirkow> nsirota: but ni default for ubuntu resolution changer i see only 640*480
[06:39] <newbie001> does anyone know how to solve this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2637/
[06:39] <cntb> how can I repair boot without re-installing
[06:39] <newbie001> the command is apt-get install -f
[06:39] <AnkleBiter> lts| ive been trying to fit a router etc but failing, then it connected for a while so i opened firefox and this happened, when i rebooted it said there were errors on disc and i needed to manually run fsck
[06:39] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: Then there is a precompiled ubuntu package for freeglut that you can use.
[06:39] <lts> AnkleBiter, did you run fsck?
[06:39] <m0Z> ok cool!
[06:39] <AnkleBiter> lts| yes
[06:40] <cntb> will -re-install respect settinns and all progs already there  ?
[06:40] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: Run Synaptic, and search for freeglut.
[06:40] <cntb> installing from alternateCD purposely
[06:40] <riotkittie>  the boot splash is handled by the usplash package, which is optional, from what i understand. you can sudo apt-get remove usplash and see if that helps
[06:40] <elyon225> Okay, so no one knows about my sound problem.  How about Java?  I installed sun-java5-jre, but Firefox is still griping about it not being installed... any ideas?
[06:40] <riotkittie> java schmava.
[06:41] <SupreMe_Gnu> hello! I just bought my self a DVD-burner. The thing is that ubuntu doesn't seem to auto detect it. What can I do? It's a Nec dvd burner
[06:41] <lts> If it doesn't create any errors during startup, I recommend to create another user and log-in there (just temp.) It might be your gnome-config error
[06:41] <AnkleBiter> lts| ok thanks, ill have a go
[06:41] <newbie001> How can I revert to the previous version of a package?
[06:41] <m0Z> how can i run synaptic?
[06:41] <nukeDev> supreme_gnu: i had a similar problem and had to re install ubuntu
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: I think: System -> Administration ->Synaptic Package Manager
[06:42] <elyon225> m0Z: Settings -> Administration -> Synaptic
[06:42] <m0Z> ok thnx found it
[06:42] <nukeDev> gd gd
[06:42] <LjL> humbolto: i believe the first X configuration at installation is done using the "dexconf" tool
[06:42] <SupreMe_Gnu> nukeDev, ah, ok... dammit, lucky I have a separate home partition
[06:42] <newbie001> so I guess nobody can help me?
[06:43] <m0Z> ok EnsignRedshirt. found freeglut3 and it also says it's installed
[06:43] <newbie001> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/33899
[06:43] <tommason> ok I am just about to use the php version that ubuntu has in the repositories and just use a pecl extension for json
[06:43] <newbie001> just for the record... google is your friend :D
[06:43] <newbie001> thank you everyone!
[06:44] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: Are you installing freeglut so you can compile some other program that uses it?  If so, you also need freeglut3-dev
[06:44] <m0Z> ah yes
[06:44] <m0Z> thnx
[06:44] <LjL> tommason, still stuck trying to compile it? anyway i don't know what that is, but there is a php5-json package
[06:44] <tom47> newbie001: what is the problem?
[06:44] <kmcclaidcook> im a prenewbie trying to install ubuntu.  but when i boot fm livecd i still get windows.  can someone tell me what im doing wrong?
[06:44] <daviey> newbie001, google hats me.  it steals my lunch money, then laughs at me with it's yunger brother froogle
[06:44] <EnsignRedshirt> m0Z: But, since you have synaptic right there, you might as well see if that program is already in the repositories ;)
[06:44] <LjL> kmcclaidcook: yes, you're not booting from the live cd...
[06:45] <Rasta> hi
[06:45] <tommason> I got apache compiled and running fine but php is being a pain
[06:45] <foofy> hey all
[06:45] <LjL> kmcclaidcook: you need to enable booting from CD in your BIOS
[06:45] <rosen37> PLease, someone know a solution to respawn automatically a script which crashed sometimes?
[06:45] <mario_> hi from italy
[06:45] <kmcclaidcook> aha, ok
[06:45] <lts> SupreMe_Gnu,  dmesg | grep cd
[06:45] <mario_> hi fromitaly
[06:45] <LjL> !it | mario_
[06:45] <ubotu> mario_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:45] <inhonho> !br | inhonho
[06:45] <ubotu> inhonho: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:45] <m0Z> yes it is. and i've marked it for upgrade
[06:46] <mario_> ok it's not a problem speaking i english
[06:46] <Rasta> what will be the best option for ntfs read/write access when managing sensitive data?
[06:46] <subzero800> Bnikow: etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <LjL> rosen37: many options i guess, including a simple crontab entry... i can find this for instance
[06:46] <LjL> !restartd
[06:46] <ubotu> restartd: Process checker and/or restarter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.a-4 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 92 kB
[06:46] <SupreMe_Gnu> lts, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2639/
[06:47] <tommason> LjL:  so is that php json package in the repositories?
[06:47] <LjL> tommason, yes, i don't really know if it's what you want, but yes
[06:47] <LjL> !php5-json
[06:47] <ubotu> php5-json: JSON serialiser for PHP5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-3 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:47] <Rasta> this is my case> i have two disks and i want to send data from the first one to the second(both ntfs) using a live ubuntu cd, its that possible?
[06:47] <rosen37> LjL: I dont want to put a crontab which check every second if the process failed or not
[06:48] <tommason> thanks
[06:48] <ehird> lo
[06:48] <ehird> i'm attempting to dualboot with ubuntu on my intel iMac - things are going better than I thought :-)
[06:48] <ehird> I can boot in, yet the resolution and refresh rate is... er, let's say, I can't read anything or move my mouse in a sane way. :-)
[06:48] <rosen37> LjL: it seems have solution with the inittab (respawn ) but It lauch several process :s
[06:48] <tom47> rosen37 yes you simply mount the two drives
[06:48] <LjL> rosen37: then use a solution such as the one i mentioned. however, keep in mind that, i suppose, those sort of daemons basically do the same thing - i.e. check every couple of seconds
[06:48] <SupreMe_Gnu> lts, does that say you something or should i reinstall ubuntu?
[06:48] <LjL> rosen37: inittab is deprecated since Edgy anyway
[06:48] <Bnirkow> hello, i want to change resolution, i have drivres installed (ati), but i still can`t change it
[06:49] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Bnirkow about fixres | Bnirkow, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:49] <LjL> Bnirkow: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  will probably help
[06:49] <Bnirkow> LjL: thanks
[06:50] <Adyeths> hi... I just tried to install a libc update that was available... and it failed... it says "A copy of glibc was found in an unexpected directory. It is not safe to upgrade the C Library in this situation". How do I get past this problem, find out where the extra copy of glibc is, and fix it so I can install this update?
[06:50] <EnsignRedshirt> DIdn't someone else just have the same problem?
[06:51] <Rasta> :(
[06:51] <Adyeths> I don't know. I just got here.
[06:51] <tom47> EnsignRedshirt: yes they did but not sure if they got an answer
[06:51] <SeanTater> what's the best way to copy the contents of  a FIFO across a ssh connection?
[06:51] <leafw> how can SELinux options be edited in gnome ?
[06:51] <leafw> or does one need to launch some settings controler from the temrinal?
[06:52] <fbc> How do I install an openoffice deb language pack with conflicting with the main install?
[06:53] <Adyeths> I even tried to run "find / -name libc.*" in order to try and locate an extra copy of libc floating around on my system... and was unable to locate it.
[06:53] <piggyg1> how do I run the GUI as root?
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> The problem is not isolated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344570&highlight=glibc
[06:53] <tom47> Adyeths does yr problem look like this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2637/
[06:54] <Rasta> what will be the best option for ntfs read/write access when managing sensitive data?  and also, its a secure way to transfer data between ntfs disks
[06:54] <Adyeths> yes it does
[06:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Sounds like the update is broken.  Hey y'all, hold off on updating glibc...
[06:54] <Bnirkow> LjL: still i can`t change it
[06:55] <LjL> Bnirkow: well, was the resolution you wanted listed in the dpkg-reconfigure dialogs?
[06:55] <kmcclaidcook> LjL, how can i enable a boot fm cd in bios please?
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Adyeths: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:56] <tom47> Adyeths: as EnsignRedshirt said above the problem is not isolated ... others are having it as well ... the update went fine here on my machine a couple of hours ago though so its not a universal problem
[06:56] <Adyeths> Edgy
[06:56] <LjL> kmcclaidcook: it entirely depends on your BIOS. however, the "Del" key, pressed before the OS boots, generally brings up your BIOS settings screen
[06:56] <tommason> LjL: thanks alot.. that is exactly what I needed
[06:56] <Bnirkow> LjL: can You resend to me this link?
[06:58] <kmcclaidcook> yes i have the bios screen, and the first device it checks for OS is diskette
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> I updated my dapper machine this morning, and didn't have a problem.
[06:58] <tommason> this is a minor issue but I get this error every time I run gedit
[06:58] <tommason> (gedit:871): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:58] <tommason> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:58] <riotkittie> kmcclaidcook: there should be directions on teh BIOS screen for changing the device order
[06:58] <ehird> anyone?
[06:58] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Bnirkow about fixres | Bnirkow, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:58] <ehird> No-one. :-/
[06:59] <rellik_> I installed a .deb but when I try to run the programit says that it cannot find the shared library libpng.so.3..   can I safetly apt-get 'libpng3' to ix this?
[06:59] <core11> Hi
[06:59] <tom47> ehird???
[06:59] <kmcclaidcook> woohoo!  thx!!
[06:59] <ehird> tom47: i'm attempting to dualboot with ubuntu on my intel iMac - things are going better than I thought :-)
[06:59] <ehird> I can boot in, yet the resolution and refresh rate is... er, let's say, I can't read anything or move my mouse in a sane way. :-)
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[06:59] <peter__> Is it possible to set up evolution when adding a new user?
[07:00] <Lam_> what command can i use to mount an ext partition? i normally just do: $ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[07:00] <core11> I installed frostwire and treid to download a file with many seeders, but every time I get a "XX hosts tried" (after the "Connecting.." and then i get the message "need more sources" Whats the problem ?
[07:00] <core11> It is NOT the file, tried several with many "seeders" or "sources"
[07:00] <riotkittie> ehird: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change teh res...    as for the mouse, what is it? touchpad, external?
[07:00] <SoulChild> HEY all... how can i simply change ONE SETTING in my kernel and recompile it.... ???
[07:00] <tom47> ehird sorry ,  hopefully someone else has iMac experience
[07:00] <ehird> riotkittie: i can't really do that with the livecd (unless it's changed recently)... The mouse works fine, it's just the distorted res makes it unusable :-)
[07:01] <ehird> changing the "VGA" in the dropdown before boot only changes the splash,
[07:01] <Bnirkow> LjL: ... one more time... sorry for irritation
[07:01] <ehird> after gnome starts it messes up again
[07:01] <EnsignRedshirt> rellik: That might work, and it won't hurt anything to install the library.
[07:02] <IdleOne> ehird: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg see if that helps any
[07:02] <SoulChild> okay i ll try by myself...
[07:02] <ehird> IdleOne: like i said... does that work on the livecd?
[07:03] <peter__> Is it possible to set up evolution when adding a new user?
[07:03] <riotkittie> ehird: ah. i thought you actually had it installed. a similar question came up a few days ago, and someone said it was possible to reconfigure x on the live cd through that method but i have never tried it myself
[07:03] <IdleOne> ehird: no you would need to boot to ubuntu then hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a command promtp and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <ehird> well, you see, i'd install it, but i can't target the unreadable install icon like this, let alone go through the wizard :-)
[07:04] <ehird> IdleOne: i can't boot to ubuntu. it's not installed.
[07:04] <ehird> well, unless you meant the livecd
[07:04] <Bnirkow> LjL: how big must be memory for video card?? how big You have??
[07:04] <IdleOne> heh just saw that
[07:04] <thor> is there a way to disable/remove the gnome powermanager?
[07:04] <fbc> How do I install an openoffice deb language pack with conflicting with the main install?
[07:04] <IdleOne> ehird: give it a shot on the livecd see what happens
[07:05] <thomas_> hi all
[07:05] <ehird> IdleOne: okay, i'll get a peice of paper to write it down :p
[07:05] <tom47> ehird try CTl Alt F4 to get to a terminal session and issue that command, and then atl ctrl f7 to get back to the session'
[07:07] <ehird> tom47: i'm aware how to switch in and out of X :p
[07:07] <riotkittie> heh
[07:07] <IdleOne> ehird: he was just making sure
[07:07] <riotkittie> uh. stupid question.
[07:07] <thomas_> what's nice in context with processes
[07:07] <elyon225> Could someone please help me fix my sound?  Most music and video plays fine, but many games and some music has a lot of static in it.  I've tried using ALSA and OSS with the same results...
[07:07] <riotkittie> ah never mind
[07:07] <riotkittie> i wont ask :P
[07:07] <ehird> (i spent 20 on a usb mouse and keyboard due to ubuntu's HAEYT of wireless, i'm not giving up now :p)
[07:07] <IdleOne> riotkittie: ask it probably will help someone hehe
[07:07] <nemesis128> hi all
[07:07] <SoulChild> !Kernel
[07:07] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:07] <riotkittie> IdleOne: nah :P
[07:07] <Gasten> Erh.. How do I set the influental environment variables when compiling from source? What does the syntax look like?
[07:07] <IdleOne> riotkittie: /msg it to me
[07:07] <ehird> Gasten: MYVAR=LOLOLOLOL mycommand
[07:07] <newbie001> hey, I think I found a bug in the current libc6 update
[07:07] <peter__> Is it possible to set up evolution when adding a new user?
[07:07] <newbie001> and I already solved
[07:07] <Gasten> ehird, mycammand?
[07:07] <ehird> Gasten:
[07:07] <ehird> er.
[07:07] <newbie001> It is critical (the x server doesn't recover from a reset)
[07:07] <ehird> "command"
[07:07] <Gasten> command*
[07:07] <tom47> newbie very good someone else has the same probem
[07:07] <ehird> well... wait
[07:07] <ehird> you want to know how to copile something?
[07:07] <newbie001> do you think I should report it?
[07:07] <ehird> *compile
[07:07] <newbie001> I found the solution
[07:08] <ehird> if so, ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:08] <mamboadm> with setting up a raid... is RAID1 swappable?
[07:08] <newbie001> tom47: the solution is out there, I can give you a link
[07:08] <tom47> newbie01 maybe you could go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344570&highlight=glibc and say what you did there
[07:08] <EnsignRedshirt> thomas_: "nice" is typically used to run a command with a lower than normal priority.
[07:08] <nemesis128> is it possible to install the 'su' command on ubuntu, o do I have to use sudo -u usrname 'blah' ?
[07:08] <newbie001> great, I'll do it
[07:08] <Gasten> ehird, Yeah, sure. the only thing I want help with is setting the infl.. the variables.
[07:09] <thomas_> EnsignRedshirt, oh ok thx
[07:09] <Lice> What program should i use if i want to browse my other hard drives?
[07:09] <newbie001> tom47: don't restart your machine
[07:10] <tom47> newbie001 what is the link you mentioned above/
[07:10] <newbie001> let me find it
[07:10] <pike_> ehird: i often make a /home/username/local directory first and configure --prefix=/home/name/local  to install to my home dir first just to test
[07:11] <rellik> nemesis128 generally 'sudo' is better..  but you can 'su' by first giving your root user a password..  'sudo passwd'
[07:11] <IceTox> yo, ya guys know where the "wine" emulator places the "fake" C:/ harddrive?
[07:11] <kryshaam> hi
[07:11] <tag> what's the name of that utility to prompt users and ask 'em questions...in a shell script
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> rellik, nemesis128: Better to 'sudo -i' than ever to 'su' with a root pw.
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> tag: For graphical questions or cli?
[07:11] <newbie001> tom47: http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
[07:12] <kmcclaidcook> ubuntu boots up now, but no desktop, just ubuntu logo.  might be connected with this message during boot-up "hw random: cannot enable RNG"?
[07:12] <Pici> nemesis128 : you can do sudo -i to get an interactive sudo session, or if you really want to set the root password you can do sudo passwd , but that isnt recomended
[07:12] <tag> tonyyarusso: cli
[07:12] <kane77> hi
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> tag: then not sure :(
[07:12] <tag> tonyyarusso: what's the graphical one?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> tag: zenity
[07:13] <kane77> i'm looking for a program that would catalogize all my photos... is there anything like that?
[07:13] <nemesis128> okay guys, I just want to know if in any way a   su -c 'bleh'  is possible ?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> kane77: F-Spot, it's in edgy by default.
[07:13] <nemesis128> Im trying to debug a script but Im not on ubuntu
[07:14] <kane77> tonyyarusso, i use dapper, thanx for the tip... I;m going to try it out
[07:14] <pike_> nemesis128: i often su - username -c ""    in ubuntu if thats what you mean
[07:14] <nemesis128> okay pike_
[07:14] <kryshaam> I'm trying to compile a piece of code including atomic.h located in /usr/include/asm-i386, atomic.h include another header file :"processor.h" in the same directory but the file don't exist ! Anyone know why?
[07:15] <tom47> newbie001: and you say you have fixed your problem from that advice?
[07:16] <Lice> How could i use my other hard drives from ubuntu?
[07:17] <SoulChild> ANYONE that knows a good tutorial to compile a kernel in edgy ?
[07:19] <kmcclaidcook> Anybody?  Ubuntu boots up but no desktop, just the logo appears on the screen.  Sorry so newbie...
[07:19] <HymnToLife> SoulChild, thare's one in the !forums
[07:19] <instabin_> how do i endable xdmcp
[07:19] <HymnToLife> in the HowTOs section
[07:19] <HymnToLife> there*
[07:19] <instabin_> !xdmcp
[07:19] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[07:19] <SoulChild> HymnToLife, thanks
[07:19] <cc77> could ubuntu server run with apache with some php groupware software on a PII266 with 64MB ram to serve max 5 people.
[07:19] <pike_> kmcclaidcook: alt-ctrl-f2  or any funtion key really under f7 which is your gui should get you to a login screen
[07:19] <SoulChild> !forums
[07:19] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[07:19] <HymnToLife> cc77, certainly
[07:20] <HymnToLife> even on a 90 MHz with 16 MB ram if you want
[07:20] <instabin_> do i have to be loged out for xdmcp to work?
[07:20] <cc77> HymnToLife, thats cool to know.
[07:20] <newbie001> tomt47: I posted the solution in the thread you gave me
[07:20] <cc77> HymnToLife, to serve more people what would be the bottleneck?
[07:21] <HymnToLife> kmcclaidcook, which logo exactly ?
[07:21] <HymnToLife> cc77, depends if "more" is 100 or 10 million :p
[07:21] <pike_> kmcclaidcook: from there you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <--that might fix it might not.  choose the vesa driver during config and accept default on most everything else
[07:21] <cc77> 20-50 more people HymnToLife.
[07:21] <HymnToLife> no problem
[07:21] <cc77> HymnToLife, you are kidding me
[07:22] <instabin_> I enabled xdmcp with the login manager but its still not working
[07:22] <HymnToLife> well, unless those 50 people are connecte dat the same time
[07:22] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2053589#post2053589
[07:23] <cc77> HymnToLife, no not more then 10-15 people on the same time.
[07:23] <tom47> newbie001 good job ty
[07:24] <kmcclaidcook> pike_,  i type that in at the login screen?
[07:24] <CanadianMan> has anyone encountered Module.symvers is missing before?
[07:24] <EnsignRedshirt> newbie001: The recent post in the forum thread moves /lib/libpthread* to a temp dir, but the shearer.org link says to move /usr/lib/pthread*  ???
[07:24] <HymnToLife> cc77, that should be ok, what groupware do you want to run ?
[07:24] <pike_> kmcclaidcook: just login first using normal userid and pass then at the prompt type that in
[07:24] <kmcclaidcook> HymnToLife, the ubuntu logo
[07:24] <pike_> kmcclaidcook: likely not the problem but its worth a shot i guess
[07:25] <HymnToLife> kmcclaidcook, yeah but when ? Is that the boot splash logo with the progress bar under it ?
[07:25] <HymnToLife> the login screen ? the GNOME splsh screen ?
[07:25] <cc77> HymnToLife, not sure yet, I looked at horde but now I'm on freshmeat and open-xchange looks slicker gui wise
[07:25] <leafw> exit
[07:25] <kmcclaidcook> there is no progress bar, just a logo.
[07:26] <kmcclaidcook> no login
[07:26] <houlala_> Hi all
[07:26] <houlala_> Someone can help me please ?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> !helpme | houlala_
[07:26] <ubotu> houlala_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <HymnToLife> !helpme | houlala_
[07:26] <IdleOne> houlala_: ask
[07:26] <HymnToLife> pwn3d :(
[07:27] <cc77> houlala_ ctrl alt backspace and then in the terminal enter startx
[07:27] <houlala_> I installed MPD but it doesnt launch at boot
[07:27] <emubite> How can I remap the Apple key (running a Macbook to the ctrl key?
[07:27] <rikstah> hi there, I've changed my hostname on a server at the datacentre, and forgot to add an entry to the hosts file, which in turn broke the use of sudo....is there any way to recover remotely?
[07:28] <CanadianMan> has anyone encountered Module.symvers is missing before?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> houlala_: Is there an init script for it?
[07:28] <houlala_> tonyyarusso, i add it...
[07:28] <pike_> rikstah: boot from recover in grub. or from grub kernel line add init=/bin/sh then mount -o remount,rw / when you get to a # prompt     i think thats correct
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> houlala_: Once you've got that, add it to runlevel 2 with something like 'bum'
[07:29] <rikstah> pike_, yeah i know that, but the server is at the datacentre :(
[07:29] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2043600
[07:29] <houlala_> tonyyarusso, already done...
[07:29] <kryshaam> nobody knows why processor.h don't exist in /usr/include/asm ?
[07:29] <kmcclaidcook> HymnToLife, could no splash login be related to message "hw random: cannot enable RNG" during boot up?
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> houlala_: Gaack - I gotta run to class.  Hopefully someone can follow up with you, if not I'll be back in three hours.  (Sorry)
[07:30] <pike_> rikstah: ah i missed that part :)
[07:30] <houlala_> tonyyarusso, ok, thx
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> houlala_: Just hilight my nick with anything if you want to leave a note.
[07:30] <HymnToLife> kmcclaidcook, possibly, is it an installed UBuntu or a Live CD ?
[07:30] <kmcclaidcook> HymnToLife, LiveCD, i want to install
[07:30] <HymnToLife> kmcclaidcook, maybe try using the Alternate CD then
[07:31] <kmcclaidcook> HymnToLife, hows that?
[07:31] <crazy_penguin> hi to all
[07:31] <kmcclaidcook> only one cd.
[07:31] <crazy_penguin> :)
[07:31] <HymnToLife> kmcclaidcook, where you downloaded your live CD, it was labeled "dektop"
[07:31] <HymnToLife> desktop*
[07:31] <kmcclaidcook> yes
[07:31] <HymnToLife> download the one with "alternate" instead
[07:32] <kmcclaidcook> ah, ok
[07:32] <Gartral> ok, im having trouble with a game, never winter nights... it refuses to install all the way
[07:32] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| I need help, my programs quit upon opening and firefox is really screwed up
[07:32] <pekuja> I just got a new monitor. Is there any GUI tool that allows me to set it up?
[07:32] <pike_> rikstah: you could write a script i guess to do what you want a have someone locally boot into grub. then run it.. id be interested how if you manage to fix it remotely
[07:32] <HymnToLife> AnkleBiter, all of them ?
[07:32] <Zaggynl> Does anyone in here have a ca0106 Sound Blaster Audigy card?
[07:32] <pekuja> I know how to modify xorg.conf, I just don't want to.
[07:33] <lokoloko> hihi
[07:33] <lokoloko> nice to be in this channel
[07:33] <Pici> pekuja : you could dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[07:33] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| no but firefox, add/remove programs, etc and i dunno what to do or how to fix it and im really stuffed
[07:33] <Gartral> ok, im having trouble with a game, never winter nights... it refuses to install all the way... i have the lastdisk in the drive, but its saying that there is no disk
[07:34] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| it all started when i was setting up a wireless network
[07:34] <pekuja> Pici, I actually did do that. It's kinda annoying though because it requires me to configure all aspects of my X server. On top of that, it didn't actually do the trick.
[07:34] <Ignite> Gartral, you should probably refer to the developers of the game.
[07:34] <Ignite> Gartral, it's obviously a problem with the game not ubuntu.
[07:34] <Gartral> its a problem with wine
[07:34] <Pici> pekuja : what exactly is the problem, you resolution
[07:34] <pekuja> Pici, I think it set the sync frequencies wrong. (I used "Simple" because I didn't want to dig the specs up)
[07:34] <Ignite> Then ask the wine developers. :P
[07:35] <pekuja> Pici, yeah, X is running at 1024x768 but my monitor supports up to 1680x1050 (widescreen LCD)
[07:35] <gnufied> whenever I use login to another machine using ssh from gnome terminal, after sometime the session freezes
[07:35] <paulinster> Hi Alll, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now I am having some issues with my xserver ...  When booting my system I am stuck to the commande prompt. Even after I login and tried to load X by typing startx, I couldn't get to it
[07:35] <Gartral> i was hoping that someone in here had that game and could help me
[07:35] <gnufied> and quite mysteriously comes back also after sometime
[07:35] <gnufied> what could be the reason?
[07:36] <Instabin> all i had to do was restart the computer to get xdmcp to work
[07:36] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| can you help?
[07:36] <pike_> Gartral: might be worth it to you to get cedega
[07:36] <IdleOne> paulinster: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <Gartral> cedega?
[07:36] <macd> can I change the tty that X attaches to? i.e. not tty0 tty1
[07:36] <pike_> Gartral: er sorry im assuming a win32 app is it a linux game?
[07:36] <paulinster> idleOne: I already try that .. but it didn't work..
[07:36] <Pici> Gartral : I believe that NWN has a linux client, you could check on Bioware's site for it
[07:36] <HymnToLife> AnkleBiter, try to start firefox from the command line
[07:37] <HymnToLife> and see if you get any error message
[07:37] <Gartral> ok, will do
[07:37] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| i have
[07:37] <mamboadm> i got some errors trying to install libapache-mod-fastcgi
[07:37] <HymnToLife> and ?
[07:37] <mamboadm> can any1 assist
[07:37] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| no error reports or anything
[07:37] <Pici> pekuja : If it detected the sync rates wrong, then you're probably going to have to either fix them manually or reconfigure them again, there arent really any other options
[07:37] <IdleOne> mamboadm: need to be more specific
[07:37] <paulinster> idleOne: I also tried to resinstall xserver-xorg but it tell me that it depend on xserver-xorg-video-all ...
[07:37] <Donovan`> is there a link to the ubuntu manual from the website?
[07:37] <pekuja> Pici, it's not detecting anything.
[07:38] <pekuja> Pici, it was a manual configuration
[07:38] <Linuturk> Donovan`: help.ubuntu.com
[07:38] <kunee> where can i find log-files from openSSH-server?
[07:38] <mamboadm> this is my error i get http://pastebin.ca/325917
[07:38] <pekuja> Pici, is there some way to tell it to automatically detect the settings?
[07:38] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| someone recommended making another user and trying that and on that use it open with a box with red text in it that looked like code, in big font
[07:38] <mamboadm> IdleOne, http://pastebin.ca/325917
[07:38] <IdleOne> paulinster: sorry I cant help more
[07:38] <paulinster> idleone: then trying to install both package give me the same result with a bunch of other depend witt xserver-xorg-video-*
[07:38] <pekuja> Pici, I'd think so since that's what happens in a regular install.
[07:38] <HymnToLife> AnkleBiter, that's definitely weird... does it open and then close right after or does it not open at all ?
[07:38] <Pici> pekuja : dpkg-reconfigure should detect them if its possible
[07:38] <pekuja> hmn
[07:39] <HymnToLife> yeah, using another user is what I was about to suggest, too
[07:39] <CanadianMan> has anyone encountered Module.symvers is missing before?
[07:39] <Donovan`> ty
[07:39] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| it opens and stays there till you close it but add/remove programs closes straight after opening
[07:39] <pekuja> Pici, it doesn't seem to. it doesn't even detect my graphics card. it asks all the settings manually
[07:39] <Pici> pekuja : What kind of graphics card do you have?
[07:40] <pekuja> i810
[07:40] <mamboadm> My Error is http://pastebin.ca/325917 i am not sure whast wrong with this
[07:40] <pekuja> Intel 855GM to be exact
[07:40] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| and i have no idea what im doing and it really screwed up and i cant think of a solution other than format my harddrive and reinstall ubuntu
[07:40] <HymnToLife> AnkleBiter, I guess you'll have to do that indeed...
[07:40] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| ok great
[07:41] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| thanks for the hel
[07:41] <arsentop> anyone know where my shutdown button dissapeared to off the quit menu?
[07:41] <AnkleBiter> HymnToLife| *help
[07:41] <arsentop> i can only standby and hibernate :x
[07:41] <arsentop> not sure what i clicked.
[07:41] <TopDawg216> Hey everyone
[07:41] <Pici> pekuja ;
[07:42] <Pici> pekuja : you may need to install the xserver-xorg-video-i810 package
[07:42] <Donovan`> anyone know where I can get the .deb files to install GDebi?
[07:42] <Hoag> Is it possible to use the ls command to list the files in a directory without using cd?
[07:42] <TopDawg216> A question...I'm brand new to Linux and I just installed a dual-boot with XP...
[07:42] <TopDawg216> I'
[07:42] <pekuja> Pici, is installed
[07:42] <m0Z> is OpenGL provided by ubuntu upon installation?
[07:43] <TopDawg216> I don't really know how the file system is set up, etc., and I'd like to know how to customize my firefox, but don't really know how to do it
[07:43] <nknwd> HELLO all! What do i have to write after -j in a iptables rule for the port 22 (SSH) in order for anyone trying to connect to that port to receive a CONNECTION REFUSED message instantly? And NOT holding on for a few dozen seconds and then getting a connection timeout ? THANK YOU
[07:43] <Zaggynl> m0Z, as far as I know, you don't, unless you install videocard drivers
[07:44] <pekuja> Pici, I guess it's just easiest to modify my xorg.conf manually. :-/
[07:44] <Zaggynl> *it isn't
[07:44] <m0Z> ok thxn
[07:44] <Pici> pekuja : yes, that would be easier unfortunatly
[07:44] <pekuja> Pici, I'm a bit disappointed in that. I've been using Linux for a long while now. I really thought this sort of things would work already. :-/
[07:44] <kunee> where can i find ssh-logs?
[07:44] <oFF-beAt> !blackbox
[07:44] <ubotu> blackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB
[07:44] <pekuja> I'm not even going to ask about Xinerama. I'll just do that manually.
[07:45] <mamboadm> nknwd, drop
[07:45] <Zaggynl> Does anyone in here have a ca0106 Sound Blaster Audigy card?
[07:45] <tom47> Donovan you can install gdebi with either apt-get or synaptic
[07:46] <ehird> hi.
[07:46] <pike_> TopDawg216: open a terminal and type 'ls -a' this will list all the contents of your home directory config files are hidden and have a . in front of them so youll see .mozilla directory in which firefox config stuff is in
[07:46] <pekuja> hmn... I feel intigrued to try a live CD to see whether the display gets detected correctly
[07:46] <Pici> pekuja : I'm suprised that it didnt work too.  Intel cards have been getting better support in dapper & edgy
[07:46] <ehird> i got graphics working, altho admittedly 1024x768
[07:47] <Donovan`> tom47 i prefer to avoid using apt-get or synaptic because I don't have the comp running Ubuntu connected to the Internet...therefore it's rather difficult to use a repository
[07:47] <ehird> and wired internet... so, if i can get my WIRELESS stuff working, then I'll install :-)
[07:47] <TopDawg216> pike:  Thanks for your help.  now will this be the process if I want to install themes or extensions etc?
[07:47] <ehird> Donovan`: cd repos?
[07:47] <Donovan`> come again?
[07:47] <pekuja> Pici, it didn't seem like it was trying to autodetect anything. Is there some option to dpkg-reconfigure that might be making it do the manual config?
[07:47] <pekuja> Pici, something I might have actually changed at some point
[07:47] <mamboadm> i am having an issue with apache...http://pastebin.ca/325917
[07:47] <Hoag> Is it possible to use the ls command to list the files in a directory without using cd?
[07:48] <pekuja> Pici, because it did autodetect it nicely originally (when I installed)
[07:48] <mamboadm> yes
[07:48] <ehird> Hoag: ls directory
[07:48] <Sa`-> hello guys i have a question
[07:48] <mamboadm> ls then the dir
[07:48] <Hoag> ehird: Thanks
[07:48] <pike_> TopDawg216: well most of those you can just go to firefox homepage and install from the browser. ive never done it manually but im sure that directory is where youd drop stuff if you did
[07:48] <ehird> Anyway, my Airport card isnt recognized in the network setitngs, just wired and modem
[07:48] <z0rz> I just typed sudo apt-get install oracle-xe  - after it was done a configuration ran .. ask me for the port and password ... I used the defaults 8080 and 1524 I believe was the latter.  Then it says to go to http://127.0.0.1:8080/apex and there is nothing there..  What's up with that? nmap localhost shows that the port isn't even open... Anyone know why oracle-xe doesn't work from apt-get?
[07:49] <ehird> Is there a way to get it to recognize it or is it a lost hope and should I reboot :-)
[07:49] <Sa`-> someone can help me plz?
[07:49] <pike_> TopDawg216: itll be like .mozilla/wierdprofilename/
[07:49] <tom47> Donovan http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgdebi%2Fgdebi_0.1.4ubuntu13_all.deb&md5sum=2005e5d6fb35ecc31ce41a3d123f232a&arch=all&type=main
[07:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Sa`-: Ask your question first, then you'll find out if someone can help.
[07:49] <Sa`-> iam about to install ubuntu6.10 and iam on the partition magic now.... and i dont know what to do. i mean in terms of how many partitions the length of them etc.
[07:49] <Donovan`> thanks tom47
[07:49] <mamboadm> i am having an issue with apache...http://pastebin.ca/325917!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:50] <dimitri_> hi all, im looking for a program in gnome the will record my voice through my mic & save to ogg format, later i want to merge the audio ogg file with a ogg video, so i will need a program that can do that to. thank you
[07:50] <Donovan`> and I can just use dpkg to install that, right?
[07:50] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: you probably need to start the oracle service? Can you see it using ps -efly ?
[07:50] <ehird> Sa`-: whatever you want :-)
[07:50] <tom47> Donovan thats my guess ;-)
[07:50] <Donovan`> thanks for the help, :)
[07:51] <ehird> just leave a 200mb swap and you'll bef ine
[07:51] <ehird> arrgh laggy keyboard
[07:51] <Sa`-> not 500mb?
[07:51] <IntuitiveNipple> sticky fingers?
[07:51] <ehird> 200mb+
[07:51] <ehird> 500mb if you want
[07:51] <z0rz> yeah intuitivenipple .. it's running
[07:51] <Sa`-> how much is recommanded?
[07:51] <z0rz> and I've did sudo /etc/init.d/oracel-xe start many times
[07:51] <Pici> Sa`- : My personal rule is 2x my RAM, but not more than 2gb
[07:52] <Sa`-> i have 1024 so 2gb it is ^_^
[07:52] <ehird> IntuitiveNipple: no. ten pound wired keyboard just to make ubuntu happy for the install more like :)
[07:52] <gnufied> its frikking mad... why are the SSH sessions freezing after sometime
[07:52] <gnufied> DNS issue?
[07:52] <gnufied> works in Windows although
[07:52] <Sa`-> and what about the file system... ext3 or ext2?
[07:52] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: Is it possible something else has bound to 8080 ?
[07:52] <oFF-beAt> !BLACKDOWN
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about BLACKDOWN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <ehird> 3, sa
[07:52] <ehird> but 2gb swap - no
[07:52] <z0rz> no .. I've tried other ports also
[07:52] <ehird> you dont need that much
[07:53] <z0rz> and nmap isn't showing anything on port 8080 or the other ports that I've tried
[07:53] <Gartral> excuse me.... why isnt my cd tray opening when i hit the eject button?
[07:53] <Sa`-> so how big should i put the swap?
[07:53] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: that does sound weird!
[07:53] <ehird> Gartral: unmount hte cd first
[07:53] <Gartral> i did
[07:53] <ehird> Sa`-: hiow much ram?
[07:53] <steel_lady> hi! I have a question, hope it is easy... How to install a network printer at my work?
[07:53] <ehird> Gartral: odd
[07:53] <z0rz> yeah.. it's doing the same thing on my schools windows xp boxes.. but I think it's completely unrelated
[07:53] <Sa`-> 1024
[07:53] <ehird> hm... just do 250mb
[07:53] <ucordes> Gartral: maybe it is locked by a process using it.
[07:54] <Gartral> ehh... im temporarly using kde
[07:54] <Sa`-> u have said 500
[07:54] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: HAve you checked the config file in case the settings its using are different - i got caught out by that a couple times with other packages where I 'chose' when it installed but my choices were ignored
[07:54] <Sa`-> :S
[07:54] <Sa`-> iam confused
[07:54] <ehird> Sa`-: no you said that
[07:54] <mamboadm> !fastcgi
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fastcgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Gartral> cus gnome hates me...
[07:54] <mwe> Gartral: did you try the 'eject' command?
[07:54] <pike_> gnufied: ssh -o keepalive servername -l user   maybe?
[07:54] <Sa`-> swap is standing for phsycal memory?
[07:54] <Gartral> yaa, eject always works
[07:54] <pike_> gnufied: er -o TCPKeepAlive
[07:54] <z0rz> yeah it's in /etc/default/oracle and the port is the same as I've specified.. I've also tried changing that and restarting oracle but that doesn't fix it either
[07:54] <ehird> swap is usedd when you have no  ram left
[07:55] <z0rz> the only thing I haven't checked is the logs.. because I can't find them... haha!
[07:55] <ucordes> Gartral: that's really strange now.. so eject command works but when you hit the button on the actual drive nothing happens right?
[07:55] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: something doesn't sound right! its not bound to an IP that doesn't exist on your PC, is it?
[07:55] <Sa`-> and should i defrag my other partitions? or it doesnt matter?
[07:55] <Gartral> ok... eject didnt work
[07:55] <ehird> doesnt matter
[07:55] <IntuitiveNipple> that could explain it - no nmap, etc, it only takes a small typo, too
[07:55] <finalbeta> !paste
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <Gartral> i know its not mounted
[07:55] <Sa`-> thank you very much !
[07:55] <mwe> ucordes: I've seen that many times
[07:55] <ehird> ext3 doesnt suck like fat/ntfs :-)
[07:55] <z0rz> how could it be bound to an ip?
[07:55] <Sa`-> ehird - thank you very much =] 
[07:55] <TopDawg216> is ubuntu only compatable with Firefox 1.5?
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[07:56] <fdoving> !ops
[07:56] <_4chanov> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanfx> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <dbphbqypyuvs> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanus> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
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[07:56] <_4changn> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanye> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanmt> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanpv> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4channp> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanvn> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <mwe> !ops
[07:56] <D7k> oooooh ok
[07:56] -_4chanov:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
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[07:56] -dbphbqypyuvs:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
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[07:56] -_4chanhi:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
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[07:56] -_4chantu:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4chanua:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4changn:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4chanye:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4chanmt:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4chanpv:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4channp:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] -_4chanvn:#ubuntu- THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <_4chanud> THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID THIS IS A 4CHAN RAID
[07:56] <z0rz> !ops
[07:56] <Svenstaro> go to hell already
[07:56] <D7k> what a moron
[07:56] <Svenstaro> god damn script kiddies
[07:56] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i get mp3 support for linux
[07:56] <ehird> D7k: oronS
[07:56] <bipolar> holy crap
[07:56] <ucordes> hmmmmmmmm
[07:56] <ehird> *oronS
[07:56] <Svenstaro> Thanks.
[07:56] <bipolar> that was annoying
[07:56] <Pici> well then
[07:56] <ehird> WITH AN m
[07:56] <Gartral> YARG!
[07:56] <m0Z> was that a question?
[07:56] <ucordes> Comrade-Sergei: !restricted
[07:57] <BiKarbonat> 4chan: collective iq level = less than zero
[07:57] <cyberix> When I click on clock, a calendar opens. How can I make the week start from Monday in it? It currently starts from Sunday, which is really disturbing.
[07:57] <IntuitiveNipple> That was pretty :)
[07:57] <ucordes> !restricted
[07:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <ehird> BiKarbonat: youre being generous there ;)
[07:57] <ucordes> !restricted | Comrade-Sergei
[07:57] <BiKarbonat> ehird: heh
[07:57] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <z0rz> how could it be bound to an ip?
[07:57] <Gartral> any way
[07:57] <ucordes> sry
[07:57] <rikstah> hi there, I've changed my hostname on a server at the datacentre, and forgot to add an entry to the hosts file, which in turn broke the use of sudo....is there any way to recover remotely?
[07:57] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[07:57] <IntuitiveNipple> cyberix: I think you change that in Evolution
[07:57] <Gartral> why did my cdrom eat my nwn play disk?
[07:57] <ehird> BiKarbonat: THIS IS A K-LINE RAID soon ;)
[07:58] <ucordes> Gartral: how did you use nwn? wine?
[07:58] <steel_lady> Hi PriceChild, can you give me a hand, I think it is a short question...
[07:58] <Gartral> and why is there absolutly NOTHING in my mnt directory
[07:58] <IntuitiveNipple> cyberix: In Evolution - Edit ? Preferences > Calendar and Tasks "Work Week" Week starts on:
[07:58] <PriceChild> steel_lady, depends if I know the answer :)
[07:58] <mwe> Gartral: lsof could help determine what's locking the drive
[07:58] <laserlineage> wtf is all that flood crap??
[07:58] <ucordes> Gartral: i bet wineserver is still using it locking it up
[07:58] <PriceChild> laserlineage, pardon>?
[07:58] <ucordes> ...
[07:58] <ehird> laserlineage: 4chan.
[07:59] <BiKarbonat> ehird: i hate brats like that
[07:59] <laserlineage> nvm
[07:59] <laserlineage> if u didnt see that..
[07:59] <mwe> laserlineage: buthead trying to be smart
[07:59] <laserlineage> oh i see
[07:59] <Gartral> and whow would i go about determining this?
[07:59] <ehird> mwe: buutheadS
[07:59] <ehird> plural
[07:59] <TopDawg216> how do I disable notificatins of people entering/exiting the room?
[07:59] <PriceChild> oh sorry laserlineage I noticed :)
[07:59] <bubbles2002> im not 100% sure of the etiquitte here... but i have 2 questons. :)
[07:59] <steel_lady> PriceChild, at this one I suppose you know :). I need to install network printer, I know that it is on the server gavilan, I know the name of the printer and I entered the dialogue for that but I am not sure what to put in
[07:59] <Pici> Go ahead and Ask
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: Any progress?
[08:00] <ucordes> Gartral: dunno. killall wineserver?
[08:00] <Galga> well atleast its good that those script kiddies don't use color codes and ascii letters, which creates any screen real laggy. was real fun to watch something of that sort on dalnet but haven't seen anything for long now
[08:00] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2043600
[08:00] <bubbles2002> ok - question 1- is it true that the only way to get wireless to work - is to swtich from wap to wep (or vice versa) and that it's a lot less secure??
[08:00] <z0rz> How could it be bound to an ip?
[08:00] <PriceChild> steel_lady, I don't do much networking sorry, hopefully someone else can help
[08:00] <z0rz> and how could I check?
[08:00] <steel_lady> PriceChild, nobody is paying attention... Rou recommend somebody?
[08:01] <grimboy> How do you change the password for a gnome keyring?
[08:01] <Pici> !wifi | Not necessarily, it depends on your card take a look here bubbles2002
[08:01] <ubotu> Not necessarily, it depends on your card take a look here bubbles2002: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:01] <cyberix> IntuitiveNipple: Doesn't have an affect there
[08:01] <PriceChild> steel_lady, just be patient... I have other things to do sorry
[08:01] <steel_lady> Ok PriceChild
[08:01] <bubbles2002> ok - thanks - I wiill
[08:01] <mwe> Gartral: lsof /dev/hdc if that's the device
[08:01] <Maxi`> hey guys
[08:01] <^Zat> hi
[08:02] <TopDawg216> People are paying attention, it just takes a while to help all these people :o)
[08:02] <steel_lady> Anybody else willing to help to install the network printer???
[08:02] <Maxi`> question: the first user can play sound.  The new added user can't.  What group does user2 have to subcribe to in order to get rid of this problem?
[08:02] <ehird> steel_lady: p a t i e n c e
[08:02] <bubbles2002> 2nd question - on the install - whenI am installing from the LIVE CD. and I use the graphic partition generater to make a partition from the boot partition... is that all I have to do before going forward.  I am scared that it's gonna srew up my windows stuff.
[08:02] <nickspoon> steel_lady: yeah, go on.
[08:02] <IntuitiveNipple> cyberix: Looks like you've found a bug
[08:02] <nickspoon> steel_lady: fire away
[08:03] <z0rz> IntuitiveNipple: How can i check to see if it's bound to an ip?
[08:03] <^Zat> I need help with fglrx drivers.... Fglrxinfo shows mesa as vendor...
[08:03] <ehird> bubbles2002: just dont click wipe and makr freespace ;)
[08:03] <ucordes> steel_lady: what is server gavilan?
[08:03] <steel_lady> nickspoon, I am with the screen where I have to put ost and queue and I don't have any idea what to put in
[08:03] <Vord> Hmm, how would I go about changing my box name? i.e. vord@vord-desktop
[08:03] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: hang on let me install it here see what happens
[08:03] <bubbles2002> thats it? and I shoudl be safe? I was a little scared.
[08:03] <^Zat> tried all howtos around here
[08:03] <bubbles2002> i have 3 existing partitions on my HD.
[08:03] <CanadianMan> anybody know anything about Module.symvers?
[08:03] <tom47> steel_lady: i put ipp://ten the tcp/ip adress of the printer
[08:03] <bubbles2002> and I dont wanna fuck anythign up.
[08:03] <ehird> bubbles2002: just read the screens carefully :)
[08:03] <mwe> Vord: /etc/hosts
[08:04] <steel_lady> ucordes, we have at work printers all working through one machine
[08:04] <Pici> !dualboot | bubbles2002 : Theres a step by step here if you need help:
[08:04] <ubotu> bubbles2002 : Theres a step by step here if you need help:: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:04] <nickspoon> steel_lady: hmm. you're using the add printer wizard, right?
[08:04] <bubbles2002> my knowledge aint that strong - I read that dual boot - and the screen is different then the one showed in the dual boot how to.
[08:04] <grimboy> bubbles2002, Also defrag windows first if you can.
[08:04] <tom47> steel_lady: eg ipp://10.1.1.75
[08:04] <steel_lady> tom47, how can I find out the address of the printer?
[08:04] <ucordes> steel_lady: ah that's just the name of the server then?
[08:04] <bubbles2002> i have to run out. but thank you.
[08:04] <paulinster> Hi again, Is anyone can help me with a dapper to edgy upgrade issue. ...  When booting my system I am stuck to the command prompt. Even after I login and tried to load X by typing startx or startkde, I couldn't get xserver to start. I already tried to resinstall xserver-xorg but it give me a bunch a depends..
[08:05] <grimboy> How do you change the password for a gnome keyring?
[08:05] <steel_lady> ucordes, yes I know just the server name and the name of the printer on that server
[08:05] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: try "netstat"
[08:05] <steel_lady> nickspoon, yes I am using that, any other way?
[08:05] <ucordes> steel_lady: maybe it would be good to know its ip address..
[08:06] <shadowhywind> i was wondering what is the console command to check on swap/ram memory?
[08:06] <steel_lady> ucordes, our techs are away and they were never mentioning these, only the names
[08:07] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: "netstat --inet -l"
[08:07] <Crema10> does anybody know if Ubuntu will make a distro geared for children?
[08:07] <mamboadm> i am having an issue with apache...http://pastebin.ca/325917!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:07] <mamboadm> Crema10, they already have one its called EdUbuntu
[08:07] <Crema10> really? damn.. where was it?
[08:07] <Crema10> I*
[08:07] <Crema10> ok i'll check it out, thanks
[08:07] <mamboadm> Crema10, yup
[08:07] <mamboadm> i am having an issue with apache...http://pastebin.ca/325917!!!!!!!!!!!\
[08:08] <mamboadm> somebody please
[08:08] <ehird> wow, you are impatient, mamboadm
[08:08] <Pici> mamboadm : try apt-get -f install
[08:08] <ucordes> steel_lady: are you in a windows enviornment?
[08:08] <grimboy> mamboadm, Please don't use exclamation marks like that.
[08:08] <mamboadm> ehird, been here for a whole tring to do this\
[08:08] <mamboadm> i have been back and forth for this issue
[08:08] <mamboadm> and nothing
[08:08] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[08:08] <z0rz> IntuitiveNipple: Yeah, I don't see the port in that list what so ever
[08:08] <grimboy> mamboadm, Also if you put spaces around the url I can click on it.
[08:08] <ehird> mamboadm: that doesn't ean you should go "!!11111
[08:08] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: try "lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[08:09] <tom47> mamboadm try putting a space ahead of http
[08:09] <steel_lady> ucordes, we have red hat network but I installed ubuntu on my laptop
[08:09] <^Zat> I need help with fglrx drivers.... Fglrxinfo shows mesa as vendor:(
[08:09] <mamboadm> ... http://pastebin.ca/325917
[08:09] <ehird> however, just to be a hypocrite, anybody familiar with airport like i said? :-)
[08:09] <tom47> ty
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> z0rz: does oracle create a log when it starts? if so, check that... or enable one if thats possible
[08:09] <Donovan`> hey, am I understanding right that if I double-click a .deb file in ubuntu's GUI, it should automatically install with dpkg?
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> check its startup script
[08:09] <recon> I'm trying to set up my computer to connect to a DHCP connection with the same internal IP address (192.168.0.3) so my hosts files on my other computers don't have to change. Does anybody know how to accomplish this?
[08:10] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, whats this going to do?
[08:10] <recon> Donovan`: yep. but IMO i would just use dpkg for more info.
[08:10] <ucordes> steel_lady: i don't have to mouch experience though
[08:10] <ehird> recon: it opens dpkg in xterm
[08:10] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: It'll tell what other processes have locks on the file that's causing dpkg problems
[08:10] <ehird> so, its the same amount of info :)
[08:10] <Donovan`> ok thanks
[08:10] <recon> ehird: never did that for me
[08:10] <ucordes> steel_lady: you simply tried out typing the name in the printer gui thingy?
[08:10] <ehird> recon: odd
[08:11] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, nothin cameup it just went back to bash
[08:11] <IntuitiveNipple> recon: You need to reserve the IP address to the MAC address in the DHCP server
[08:11] <steel_lady> ucordes, blonde do not understand you
[08:11] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[08:11] <grimboy> mamboadm, Try sudo init 1 (takes you to single user mode without lots of other processes) first
[08:11] <Pici> !es | anti_system32
[08:11] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:11] <kryshaam> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/65014    anyone have a solution?
[08:11] <steel_lady> ucordes I have 2 fields to put in, host and queue
[08:11] <recon> IntuitiveNipple: in this case, the DHCP server is my router.
[08:11] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: line 7 of your pastebin needs to be resolved; investigate that
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[08:11] <grimboy> mamboadm, No, wait, I missed what IntuitiveNipple said
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[08:11] <Pici> !ops
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[08:12] <IntuitiveNipple> recon: it should be possible in post routers to do that
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[08:12] <Pici> sigh... what is with these people today/
[08:12] <Mrono> geez
[08:12] <ehird> Pici: people are idiots and have lots of time, and hate TEH LUNIX
[08:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Its all good excitement, Pici :)
[08:12] <Donovan`> well that was fun
[08:12] <ucordes> Pici: they have nothing to do
[08:12] <recon> IntuitiveNipple: I'm doing it right now.
[08:12] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, should i make it ww-data like i dont understand what to do
[08:12] <ehird> (07:12:19 PM) scarsoul [n=gentoo <-- there's something wrong with that in #ubuntu. :p
[08:13] <apokryphos> ehird: many people use more than one distribution
[08:13] <ZeiP> Gentoo++ (but also using Ubuntu :) )
[08:13] <Mrono> I'm running server ubuntu with ssh and installing cpanel in a session, why can't i use su or sudo in another sesson?
[08:13] <ehird> apokryphos: still, it was amusing considering how opposite they are on the "easy-o-meter" scale
[08:13] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: If that error continues ("/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process) then dpkg can't do its work, so you need to find out and stop whatever process is locking that file when dpkg is running
[08:13] <bayziders> I would like to make a audio cd with mp3 files what program should i use?
[08:14] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, ok let me look into this
[08:14] <^Zat> !it | ^Zat
[08:14] <ubotu> ^Zat: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:14] <TopDawg216> Ubuntu and Xchat for GNOME
[08:14] <TopDawg216> sorry :)
[08:15] <bayziders> gaim>all :-D
[08:15] <ehird> Anybody?
[08:15] <recon> IntuitiveNipple: OK, that's done. What's next?
[08:15] <Mrono> errr, well not having it in front of me I can't tell you right off but i'm sure it's in the setting somewhere
[08:15] <Mrono> like channel settings
[08:15] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, whats the command to find out what process is using that file
[08:15] <bayziders> so does any one know what program i should ude
[08:15] <bayziders> use*
[08:15] <TopDawg216> I'll look around.  Thanks!
[08:16] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I have 1.5Gb RAM installed on an AMD XP 2600 CPU system. I have read on Ubuntu forums that unless I have the K7 linux kernel installed only 1Gb is utilised. a) is this ture and b) how can I check how much RAM my system is currently addressing?
[08:16] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: lsof
[08:16] <cc77> bayziders, gnomefiles has a nice list of buring software. look at this list http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 and choose the one that seems for you and then use synaptic to get it.
[08:16] <Mrono> yeah, anyone know why I can't use sudo in two different sessions
[08:16] <IntuitiveNipple> recon: if the IP is reserved to the NICs MAC address, then just release and renew the lease and you should get the IP
[08:16] <gizmo_the_great1> nb - I have tried  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:16] <mamboadm> IntuitiveNipple, yeah but it says no process is using this shit
[08:16] <bayziders> tnx
[08:17] <recon> OK, thanks. need to go do that with my laptop now.
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> mamboadm: I can't help you much more I'm afraid, its a case of Googling I suspect
[08:17] <mamboadm> ok
[08:18] <gizmo_the_great1> think I solved it. cat /proc/meminfo - it states I got 1.5Gb of RAM - so maybe this thing about the K& kernel is not true?
[08:18] <master_proper> Hello everybody! Can someone please tell me where to get help configuring tun/tap correctly? I recently installed VirtualBox and used the tap0 interface by bridging (which worked excellent) - now I want to switch to arp_proxy, but unfortunately there is no /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tap0 ..
[08:19] <ehird> cpu cores       : 1
[08:19] <ehird> um what, i have 2 cores :-/
[08:19] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me setting up OSS?
[08:19] <Zaggynl> !oss
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <mwe> Zaggynl: oss? you mean open sound system?
[08:20] <Zaggynl> mwe, yeah
[08:20] <pippo> hi
[08:20] <pippo> can someone help a beginner?
[08:20] <mwe> Zaggynl: it's deprecated. oss emulation should be enabled by default
[08:20] <coNP> pippo: sure, just ask what you want :)
[08:21] <Comrade-Sergei> !restricted
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <pippo> i woul like to know how to install amule version 2.3
[08:21] <Zaggynl> mwe, hmm okay, I've set up my stuff using this way: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2043600#post2043600
[08:21] <tom47> !ask | pippo
[08:21] <ubotu> pippo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:21] <pippo> thanks
[08:21] <pippo> what have i to do to install amule 2.1.3?
[08:21] <shwag> why is there a new version of libc6 on dapper ?
[08:22] <z0rz> IntuitiveNipple: You get it working?
[08:22] <pippo> i have an ubuntu
[08:22] <pippo> os
[08:22] <shuan> hi
[08:22] <tom47> pippo use synaptic
[08:22] <pippo> yes i did
[08:22] <pippo> but is an older version
[08:22] <mwe> Zaggynl: what's the purpose again?
[08:23] <DreamThief> search for a repository with a newer version @ pippo
[08:23] <shuan> i have xp and ubuntu in dual boot and would like to know how i can configure grub to boot xp as default?
[08:23] <finalbeta> Anyone here running Java 6 yet? Can you test run this? http://users.telenet.be/greenhouse/foldersync.jnlp GPL foldersync app. Can't harm (unless you actually start synchronizing)
[08:23] <Zaggynl> mwe, to get sound+mic working in Teamspeak and Wine, Alsa won't do
[08:23] <pippo> i would like to know how to upgrade my 2.0.3
[08:23] <tom47> pippo are you using 6.10 edgy
[08:23] <pippo> i am using a 5.10
[08:23] <DreamThief> lol
[08:23] <DreamThief> 5.10 ?
[08:23] <finalbeta> java.
[08:23] <z0rz> pippo: Wow that's old!
[08:23] <pippo> yes... i think... how can i check?
[08:24] <Mrono> lovely
[08:24] <axion_> how do i disable startup-notification (busy cursor) in gnome (ubuntu)
[08:24] <axion_> ?
[08:24] <mwe> Zaggynl: I see. I'm afraid I can't help much. crimsun is the sound guru in here. dunno if he's around, though.
[08:24] <incorrect> is it possible to get a list of groups with a line feed after each group
[08:24] <Zaggynl> mwe, okay thanks :)
[08:24] <coNP> pippo: cat /etc/issue in a terminal window
[08:24] <mwe> Zaggynl: or someone else, maybe
[08:24] <Zaggynl> I'll try poking him
[08:24] <master_proper> As I already mentioned I have an interface tap0 which works fine but the device is missing completely under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf how can that be? All my other phyiscal network adapters appear in this directory (e.g. eth0, eth1). Can someone please help me? I'm using edgy
[08:25] <Maxi`> hi
[08:25] <tomasz> hi
[08:25] <z0rz> Maxi`: No!
[08:25] <Mrono> so why can't I use sudo in two sessons?
[08:25] <Maxi`> z0rz, erm ... no what?
[08:25] <z0rz> Maxi`: No!
[08:25] <mwe> Mrono: you can't?
[08:26] <Maxi`> there are 2 users on this machine.  the first can do "sudo -s" ... the second one which has been added from new can't do "sudo -s"
[08:26] <z0rz> IntuitiveNipple: Did you install oracle-xe?
[08:26] <Maxi`> afaik thats because this user is not in the sudors file
[08:26] <yaman> am new in ubuntu and need to know how to mount the partitions and i wana know if ubuntu support the ntfs or what ?
[08:26] <Maxi`> but no clue how to add
[08:26] <pippo> cat: /etc/issue/: Not a directory
[08:26] <mwe> Maxi`: use sudo -i. and make sure both users are in the admin group
[08:26] <tom47> pippo drop the last /
[08:26] <pippo> k
[08:26] <ehird> Anyone?
[08:26] <ben_x3124> hi, im trying to turn my gentoo system into a wireless/wired router. i have 2 wired nics (one for wan and one for lan) and a wireless card for wireless lan. Is this possible?
[08:27] <Mrono> mwe nope, it says must be setuid root
[08:27] <pippo> yes 5.10!
[08:27] <Maxi`> mwe, how to add a user to the admin group?
[08:27] <Maxi`> adduser user admin ?
[08:27] <Maxi`> @ mwe
[08:27] <Cryoniq> Hello :)
[08:27] <mwe> Maxi`: sudo gpasswd -a user admin
[08:27] <pippo> how can i update without a format?
[08:27] <tom47> pippo then you really should upgrade to 6.10 where the version you are looking for is providded
[08:27] <pippo> how can i update without a format?
[08:27] <Maxi`> Thank you mwe
[08:27] <tom47> pippo are you on broadband?
[08:27] <incorrect> pippo, upgrade what?
[08:28] <pippo> y
[08:28] <pippo> the os
[08:28] <tom47> what speed?
[08:28] <pippo> 1.5 mbit
[08:28] <prower> Hmm...I didn't know if I'd like giving up KDE and trying the GNOME-based distro, but it's actually not that bad :>
[08:28] <incorrect> pippo, you can install vista :) i hear thats an upgrade
[08:28] <Cryoniq> Been looking around for a solution regarding VLC on Ubuntu 6.10 aka Edgy. I try to install it but it complains about libdbus-1-1 not installed. I have 1-3 installed but if I try to get 1-1 in, it tell me that if I continue it will remove tons of packages with gnome, firefox and lots more in them. What to do?
[08:28] <pippo> lol never!
[08:28] <ehird> prower: Kubuntu? :)
[08:28] <tom47> sheesh you will have to do two ... one to 6.06 and then that oone to 6.10
[08:28] <Zaggynl> I'm still wondering if I should upgrade to Edgy =(, Dapper has this )!@$5 old Alsa driver
[08:29] <prower> ehird: Yes, that's what I was using before :>
[08:29] <Adyeths> would anyone happen to know if the problems with installing the glibc update have anything to do with not being able to get the binary nvidia driver working?
[08:29] <prower> (And FreeBSD/KDE before that)
[08:29] <tom47> Adyeths not sure but did you see the post in the forums on fixing the problem?
[08:29] <Zaggynl> Who is using Edgy (6.10) in here?
[08:29] <Adyeths> it was working fine for me until I tried installing updates today. now it doesn't work. X won't start when I try using it. I have to use the nv driver instead.
[08:29] <Cryoniq> <-- Edgy
[08:29] <Mrono> ...
[08:29] <pippo> ok np i will format..... :(((( thanks bye!
[08:29] <Adyeths> no I haven't seen the forum post.
[08:30] <mwe> Zaggynl: most folks I think
[08:30] <Zaggynl> How's the stability?
[08:30] <Mrono> >sudo
[08:30] <Mrono> sudo: must be setuid root
[08:30] <Zaggynl> And did you upgrade from dapper (6.06) ?
[08:30] <mwe> Zaggynl: fine for me
[08:30] <Mrono> > reboot
[08:30] <mwe> Mrono: no
[08:30] <Mrono> reboot: must be root
[08:30] <Adyeths> where's the forum post at if you happen to know quick?
[08:30] <Cryoniq> It is stable. No problems there.. but I just cant get VLC to install.. =(......
[08:30] <prower> I'm using Edgy now...I was having a weird issue with Kaffeine locking up my machine when playing certain videos, but I don't know if it was Kaffeine or the files responsible
[08:30] <Mrono> >sudo reboot
[08:30] <mwe> Mrono: how did that happen?
[08:30] <Mrono> sudo: must be setuid root
[08:30] <m`kay> hi guys - >http://www.wormux.org/wiki/packages.php#Generic_Debian_package <- would this work on ubuntu to get the 0.8????
[08:30] <prower> That's why I switched over to a Gnome-based desktop : >Haven't had it lock up yet
[08:30] <Mrono> mwe no idea
[08:30] <tom47> Adyeths http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344570&highlight=glibc
[08:30] <Zaggynl> Funny you mention, when I quit a playing VLC, it leaves a process open called wxvlc, audio only
[08:31] <mwe> Mrono: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[08:31] <lebowski> howdy all
[08:31] <Cryoniq> How did you guys get VLC installed?
[08:31] <Mrono> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 91508 2006-10-09 04:37 /usr/bin/sudo
[08:31] <mwe> Mrono: did you screw up a chmod command or something?
[08:31] <Zaggynl> synaptic
[08:31] <Mrono> i havent done any
[08:31] <lebowski> Cryoniq, apt
[08:31] <Cryoniq> When I do that it tells me I dont have libdbus-1-1 and refuse to go on
[08:31] <mwe> Mrono: odd. boot to recovery mode and chmod +x /usr/bin/sudo
[08:32] <Draconicus> brb
[08:32] <pike_> vlc with theora is great for streaming movies to work computer from home :)
[08:32] <lebowski> Cryoniq, you have all your repositories set .. right?
[08:32] <ehird> Anyone?
[08:32] <Cryoniq> aye. libdbus-1-3 is installed however
[08:32] <Mrono> mwe, guess i gotta do a hard reboot
[08:32] <adaminla> Bought a HP D2360 and want to install driver (HPLIP) from web page. To install driver do I need to have the printer on or off?
[08:32] <Adyeths> thanks. I'm gonna try that out and see if it works for me.  *crosses fingers* :)
[08:32] <mwe> Mrono: yeah. then go to recovery mode and chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo
[08:33] <tom47> Adyeths good luck
[08:33] <axion_> anyone know how to disable the busy cursor in gnome?
[08:33] <ikonia> axion_: mouse themes
[08:34] <Cryoniq> So I can get VLC through it and I can also get libdbus-1-1 but if I try go Libdbus-1-1 it will rip out a lot of stuff with gnome in it, firefox stuff.. tons of stuff.. and I assume that means that gnome will fail if I do
[08:34] <ikonia> why do you want to remove dbus ?
[08:34] <Mrono> mwe, ok, rebooting again
[08:34] <ehird> Guess.. not :/ ah well, os xi t is
[08:34] <Cryoniq> because current libdbus is 1-3
[08:34] <Adyeths> it worked. it installed the update. thanks.
[08:34] <Cryoniq> vlc complain it want 1-1
[08:34] <Cryoniq> to install
[08:34] <ikonia> Cryoniq: what does that matter ?
[08:34] <axion_> ikonia: theres no way to turn it off like in the past? In prevvious versions of GNome there was a Look N Feel in gnome-control-center
[08:34] <mwe> Mrono: you know how to get to single user mode?
[08:34] <ikonia> whats vlc
[08:35] <ikonia> axion_: don't know about that
[08:35] <Mrono> mwe, eh?
[08:35] <Mrono> mwe, can't say i do
[08:35] <Cryoniq> VLC is a very good media player, to me at least :)
[08:35] <mwe> Mrono: I think ubuntu calls it safe mode or recovery mode
[08:35] <lebowski> !vlc
[08:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:35] <ikonia> ao your telling a media player has a requirment on dbus ?
[08:35] <Mrono> mwe, oh, i already did, and i activated root access as well as doing that chmod
[08:36] <mwe> Mrono: the boot menu before it starts booting, can you get to that?
[08:36] <ikonia> I would STRONGLY recommend not messing with dbus
[08:36] <mwe> Mrono: oh
[08:36] <Cryoniq> yes. VLC is more than a media player since it has a lot with streaming etc also
[08:36] <lebowski> what's dbus?
[08:36] <Mrono> mwe, it's alot easier to just ssh as root then mucking around with sudo
[08:36] <ikonia> lebowski: sort of an event manager
[08:36] <tom47> Adyeths very good,
[08:36] <lebowski> ikonia, ah
[08:36] <Cryoniq> ikonia aye.. that is my conclusion also when I saw the list of dependencies to it
[08:36] <mwe> Mrono: and a lot unsafer ;)
[08:36] <SecrethX> gooooooood moooorning #ubuntuuuu :)
[08:37] <SecrethX> oops, its night..
[08:37] <mwe> Mrono: It not too bad with a good pass, though
[08:37] <Cryoniq> it is strange though that libdbus 1-3 isnt backwards compatible with 1-1
[08:37] <ikonia> SecrethX: in the normal world we just say "hello"
[08:37] <SecrethX> hi ikonia ;D
[08:37] <ikonia> Cryoniq: not really
[08:37] <tom47> SecrethX: play it loud OK
[08:37] <mwe> Mrono: or using ssh keys
[08:37] <Cryoniq> or rather.. that VLC doesnt assume that higher versions is compatible
[08:37] <ikonia> Cryoniq: thats something to take up with vlc developers
[08:37] <Mrono> mwe, i'd rather use root then forget to use sudo on a pico document then not be able to save it
[08:37] <ikonia> Cryoniq: is there not a vlc version in the ubuntu repo's
[08:38] <mwe> Mrono: I see
[08:38] <Cryoniq> =) I did.. they told me.. take that up with your distro people and channels :D
[08:38] <ikonia> Cryoniq: is there not a vlc version in the ubuntu repo's
[08:38] <ehird> Anyone?
[08:38] <mwe> Mrono: personally I just use sudo -i when I need a root prompt
[08:38] <Cryoniq> There is.. it is that one im trying to install :D
[08:38] <ikonia> ehird: sorry missed your question
[08:38] <ikonia> Cryoniq: how are you installing
[08:38] <Zaggynl> ehird, ?
[08:38] <jrib> Cryoniq: and what is the problem?  What error do you get?
[08:38] <ehird> ikonia: airport isn;t detected and i don't know where to stat to get it working
[08:38] <ehird> stat
[08:38] <ehird> staRt
[08:38] <Cryoniq> through Synaptic and I even tried apt-get via shell
[08:38] <Zaggynl> oh, wireless, don't know much about that
[08:39] <Cryoniq> Depends: libdbus-1-1 but it is not going to be installed
[08:39] <Cryoniq>  Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed
[08:39] <ehird> right now i'm using wired everything and it isn't pretty ;) would like wireless internte...
[08:39] <Cryoniq> is what I get :)
[08:39] <Zaggynl> Whenever I play something with VLC, and then close VLC, a process wxvlc keeps playing audio until I kill it.
[08:39] <jrib> Cryoniq: pastebin your sources.list
[08:39] <ikonia> Cryoniq: I find it hard to believe that a package in the ubuntu repo has broke deps
[08:39] <mwe> !wireless | ehird
[08:39] <ubotu> ehird: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:40] <lebowski> ehird, wired networks are good .. I prefer wired networks over wireless
[08:40] <ehird> lebowski: do you have any backing for that? it works great with OS X
[08:40] <ikonia> ehird: the airport is showing up as supported in the hardware list
[08:40] <ehird> ikonia: well, that's good.
[08:40] <mwe> Zaggynl: sounds broken ;)
[08:40] <ikonia> ehird: its a start
[08:40] <ehird> but, nothing ni connection prefs :)
[08:40] <Zaggynl> mwe, that's the odd part, I'm using Dapper it's rep :/
[08:40] <skold> Zaggynl: i have sometimes the same problem
[08:40] <ikonia> ehird: what type of mac are you on  ?
[08:40] <Mrono> mwe, ever set up cpanel on an ubuntu server?
[08:40] <mwe> Mrono: no
[08:41] <lebowski> ehird, it gotta work on mac :)
[08:41] <ehird> ikonia: shiny new imac core 2 duo from deceber
[08:41] <mwe> Mrono: apache and friends but not cpanel
[08:41] <lebowski> shiny :)
[08:41] <Mrono> has anyone ever set up cpanel on ubuntu server?
[08:41] <ikonia> ehird: Hmmm I wonder if that has anything to do with the chipset over the actual card
[08:41] <ehird> 20" widescreen and all that
[08:41] <ikonia> ehird: there /have/ been problems with some c2d chipsets
[08:41] <lebowski> ehird, stop bragging :P
[08:41] <SecrethX> hmm for some reason wine crashes time after time.. whilest two days ago it didnt :/
[08:41] <mwe> Zaggynl: well dapper isn't bug free either. I'd report a bug
[08:41] <Skew> i'm such a noob, i don't even know how to install ubuntu while keeping windows
[08:42] <Zaggynl> mwe, just checked launchpad, it's in there :)
[08:42] <mwe> I see
[08:42] <lebowski> Skew, search the internet for dualbooting with ubuntu
[08:42] <lebowski> !dualboot
[08:42] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:42] <mwe> Zaggynl: did anyone suggest a fix?
[08:42] <Skew> thank you lewboski
[08:42] <ikonia> mwe: heres an idea.......YOU check
[08:43] <mwe> ikonia: here's another idea. mind your own business
[08:43] <ikonia> mwe: no
[08:43] <Mrono> !cpanel
[08:43] <ubotu> cpanel: A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 91 kB, installed size 460 kB
[08:43] <ikonia> people are giving you info and you're not doing anything with it
[08:43] <Mrono> lol
[08:43] <nysosym> hi all
[08:43] <mwe> ikonia: you're not reading
[08:43] <mwe> ikonia: I was helping someone, buthead
[08:44] <chiarato> I can't get online I have the wusb54g adapter everything is fine because the iwconfig and ifconfig recognize the driver rusb0 my incription is wep 128bits what am I doing wrong???
[08:44] <ikonia> mwe: didn't look like that
[08:44] <Cryoniq> Jrib pastebin?
[08:44] <mwe> ikonia: look again
[08:44] <Zaggynl> mwe, nope, except for upgrading to edgy
[08:44] <jrib> !pastebin | Cryoniq
[08:44] <ubotu> Cryoniq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:44] <mwe> Zaggynl: pfft
[08:44] <jrib> Cryoniq: put your /etc/apt/sources.list file's contents on that website
[08:44] <ircusr> hi
[08:44] <ikonia> mwe: I stand corrected - AND publicy apologise
[08:44] <Cryoniq> ah :)
[08:44] <ircusr> someone acquainted with gnupoc?
[08:45] <mwe> ikonia: accepted
[08:45] <Gosha|Away> !webcam
[08:45] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:45] <ircusr> !gnupoc
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnupoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <ircusr> hello?
[08:45] <SecrethX> gtg
[08:45] <ikonia> what ?
[08:45] <mwe> Zaggynl: use another player I guess, then
[08:45] <Zaggynl> :o
[08:46] <chiarato> I can't get online I have the wusb54g adapter everything is fine because the iwconfig and ifconfig recognize the driver rusb0 my incription is wep 128bits what am I doing wrong???
[08:46] <ircusr> im trying to install the symbian sdks in ubuntu with gnupoc
[08:46] <ircusr> but it doesnt work
[08:46] <ircusr> can someone assist?
[08:46] <ikonia> chiarato: if you have the card working, and you CAN configure it, but it doesn't work then there is something wrong with your config
[08:47] <Cryoniq> And then just hand out the URL?
[08:47] <steel_lady> ucordes, which is the difference between URI and location for the network printer?
[08:47] <chiarato> ikonia: thanks what can I do to make work?
[08:47] <cpnvidia> hrllo
[08:47] <ikonia> chiarato: what was your question sorry
[08:47] <mwe> Zaggynl: sounds annoying but I can't come up with a better suggestion. it doesn't seem anyone on launchpad could either except for upgrading to edgy which is not nessecarily a good idea
[08:47] <Cryoniq> 2654 is the number for the sources.list of mine
[08:47] <ircusr> well?
[08:47] <cpnvidia> i have som ubunut installation problem...
[08:48] <mamboadm> does anybody know nething about sympa?
[08:48] <cpnvidia> my xwindows wont start in the installation
[08:48] <Zaggynl> mwe, myeah I can't really decide on wether not to upgrade
[08:48] <cpnvidia> nvidia gfx
[08:48] <cfpl> channel, i have a intel core 2 processer laptop. should i download the amd64 version iso or normal i386 iso?
[08:48] <mwe> Zaggynl: I wouldn't do it just because of vlc
[08:48] <ikonia> cfpl: up to you
[08:48] <Zaggynl> mwe, true, I'm also considering to do it because of newer alsa drivers
[08:48] <cfpl> ikonia, which is recommended?
[08:48] <tom47> chiarato: try getting it to work with no encryption first
[08:48] <chiarato> ikonia: I can't get online something must be wrong whith the config I'm using wep 128bits
[08:49] <ikonia> cfpl: depends what you want
[08:49] <prAyer> hi...can anyone tell me how to connect an irc-server with irssi???
[08:49] <ikonia> chiarato: I can't know your network config - so only you can debug it
[08:49] <cfpl> ikonia, ok
[08:49] <mwe> Zaggynl: yeah. It's supposed to be easy and painless but that's not always the case
[08:50] <Zaggynl> I'm kinda running into a 'not supported wall' and old repositories in dapper atm
[08:50] <chiarato> ikonia: is there a web page that can walk me throgh?
[08:50] <ikonia> Zaggynl: your running dapper
[08:50] <Zaggynl> yah
[08:50] <ikonia> chiarato: no - you've got to understand your config
[08:50] <mwe> Zaggynl: I'm sure you'll get help in here if you run into problems
[08:50] <ikonia> Zaggynl: hang on
[08:50] <mwe> !upgrade | Zaggynl
[08:50] <ubotu> Zaggynl: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:51] <Zaggynl> *clickah*
[08:51] <ikonia> Zaggynl: I've just installed vlc on dapper - no problems
[08:51] <Zaggynl> ikonia, installing isn't the problem, playing something, then closing VLC, a process called wxvlc remains open
[08:51] <Zaggynl> ikonia, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/54630
[08:52] <ikonia> ok - hang on
[08:52] <mwe> ikonia: as with other bugs not nessecarely everyone is seeing it
[08:52] <chiarato> ikonia: sorry I'm new at this what's to understand admins-network essid-xxxxx passphrase auto dhcp?
[08:52] <prAyer> did u hear that an intel pentium 4 has reached the 8ghz through extrem overclocking? it was a pentium 4 631!
[08:52] <ikonia> mwe: totally, just looking into it as I initially miss-understood the problem
[08:52] <Raf> how can I to know my Ubuntu version? I mean, to know if I have breeze or edgy
[08:52] <ikonia> I was told initially the problem was it wouldn't install due to dbus dependency conflicts
[08:52] <chiarato> ikonia: I even did iwlist rusb0 up!
[08:52] <ikonia> now I'm told installing isn't the problem
[08:53] <tbf> wondering how a tool which started as light-weighted as maildrop can be as heavy-weighted as maildrop is today
[08:53] <Adyeths> yes, the nvidia binary driver is working again after I installed that glibc update. :)
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> RAf: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:53] <tbf> are there reliabled, maildrop replacements?
[08:53] <ikonia> tbf: which tool
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> Raf: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:53] <tbf> ikonia: the mail delivery agent
[08:53] <ikonia> tbf: which one
[08:53] <Raf> ciscosurfer: thank you very much!
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> :-)
[08:53] <tom47> Adyeths are you a happy lil vegemite again now?
[08:53] <tbf> ikonia: there are more than one?
[08:53] <ikonia> yes
[08:54] <chiarato> Raf: just go on aboutubuntu on your desktop up top!
[08:54] <mwe> tbf: IMHO that seems to be the case with many programs
[08:54] <Adyeths> I dunno about being a happy lil vegemite... but I'm definitely happy. ;)
[08:54] <ikonia> tbf what makes you think its "heavy" no
[08:54] <ikonia> now
[08:54] <goodgerster> evening
[08:54] <Cryoniq> Hmm could it be that I should actually install Gnome-VLC instead of vlc package. That I haven't tried yet though. Anyhow.. this is the pastebin of my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2654/
[08:55] <chiarato> ikonia: is got to be something easy!
[08:55] <tbf> ikonia: I've directly installed the "maildrop" package and it expects an entire courier-mail environment (better: authlib env) to be setup
[08:55] <ikonia> mwe: it was Cryoniq that was having the install problem - not Zaggynl I'm not on good form
[08:55] <Adyeths> ok, off to do other stuff now. Thanks again guys! :)
[08:55] <Zaggynl> np
[08:55] <ikonia> Cryoniq: thats just a front end
[08:55] <tbf> ikonia: well, and then I've done "apt-get source maildrop" and my eyes started rolling
[08:55] <Daemonn> Is it ok to run Ubuntu AMD64 edition on Pentium 4 supporting EM64T technology? Is it fulli compatible?
[08:55] <Raf> chiarato: I don't have any desktop installed becase I use Ubuntu server, thanks anyway
[08:55] <Cryoniq> I think you doing well thinking of the message rate in the channel :)
[08:55] <arraxca> hey i need help
[08:55] <ikonia> Daemonn: no
[08:55] <arraxca> my video playback is broken!!!
[08:56] <ikonia> I'm losing track of conversations tonight
[08:56] <arraxca> no matter what player i use it will crash whenever i try to open a video!!
[08:56] <Daemonn> ikonia, why do you think so?
[08:56] <arraxca> please help
[08:56] <ikonia> Daemonn: because thats not a 64 bit processor
[08:56] <tbf> ikonia: (fetched the source for compiling a /usr/local version without authlib crap)
[08:56] <mamboadm> how do i delete a user from the system?
[08:56] <ircusr> well,
[08:56] <Cryoniq> ah hmm..
[08:56] <ircusr> can someone assist?
[08:57] <ircusr> please?
[08:57] <ikonia> tbf: I'm not a fan of courier due to authlib - so I sympathise
[08:57] <arraxca> will anyone help me please??
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> mamboadm: deluser
[08:57] <ircusr> arraxca
[08:57] <lebowski> mamboadm, userdel?
[08:57] <Daemonn> some P4 support 64-bit computing, and mine does, too, I know that
[08:57] <cmt^^> How do I set up apache to run multiple domains on the same ip? (one 'main' domain and a subdomain)
[08:57] <ircusr> ive been asking the exact question myself
[08:57] <ikonia> Daemonn: if its a 64 bit chip - yes - if its not - no
[08:57] <dromer> how can I add a key to my APT?
[08:57] <rellik> cmt virtualhosts
[08:57] <ikonia> ircusr: / arraxca look at the way you ask
[08:57] <mwe> Daemonn:  I'd think it would work if it supports EM64T. I'm not sure, though
[08:57] <ikonia> constantly just chatting
[08:57] <Daemonn> I've tried to run a AMD64 LiveCD, and it seems to work good
[08:57] <lebowski> dromer, cat key.txt | apt-get add-key - .. I guess
[08:58] <ikonia> Daemonn: then your fine
[08:58] <mwe> Daemonn: then it would probably work fine
[08:58] <tbf> ikonia: so do you know another reliable mail-filter? procmail is not reliable due it's fallthru behaviour
[08:58] <LjL> dromer: "man apt-key", but hold on i'll give you a howto
[08:58] <Daemonn> ok :)
[08:58] <Cryoniq> Ikonia but the ubuntu default install rep should have a working VLC install in it? I think I added the rep from VLC site into it. Can a rep add a package with same name and the other one fall out that way?
[08:58] <lebowski> or yeah, apt-key :)
[08:58] <ikonia> tbf: they all have pros/cons - I've found qmail solid, amongst others
[08:58] <dromer> LjL: yeah, doesn't make any sense to me :$
[08:58] <LjL> dromer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[08:58] <ircusr> im trying to install symbian sdks in ubuntu with gnupoc
[08:58] <ikonia> Cryoniq: remove external sources - use ubuntu's repo's I've just installed from ubuntu's repo's and its no problem
[08:59] <ircusr> but im having no luck
[08:59] <ikonia> ircusr: we say you the first 4 times you asked
[08:59] <dromer> thnx LjL
[08:59] <ircusr> ok
[08:59] <ircusr> any ideas?
[08:59] <LjL> dromer: also if you create a sources.list using source-o-matic, the first lines will give you a short explanation on how to add keys, and it will also list the keys for the repos that you selected
[08:59] <ikonia> ircusr: probably one of the reasons being ignored
[08:59] <ircusr> ok
[08:59] <tbf> ikonia: don't consider qmail to be secure due that stupid license and all the untested custom patches qmail requires today for being up-todate
[08:59] <Cryoniq> oki ill fiddle with it some :)
[08:59] <ircusr> i guess i switch back to windows then
[08:59] <z0rz> I intalled oracle-xe and then when I start it it says to use http://127.0.0.1:8080/apex to access the configuration page.  But when I nmap localhost 8080 isn't even open.  And I can't navigate to the page.  Does anyone know why this is anhd how I can fix it?
[08:59] <FrotTier> huch, sorry..
[09:00] <ikonia> tbf: the license - yes a problem. the package "net-qmail" is secure, I can vouch on that
[09:00] <arraxca> Will anyone help me with the problem I am having, video playback seems to be broken on my system. Not matter what file I open on what media player the player will crash within seconds.
[09:00] <dromer> LjL: sorry I don't use "source-o-matic" or w/e
[09:00] <ikonia> ircusr: enjoy windows
[09:00] <mwe> z0rz: maybe you need to start the service
[09:00] <pbureau> hello to all
[09:00] <ikonia> hello
[09:00] <dromer> LjL: I have a key from  website I want to add, but I still don't know from the page you gave how to do that :/
[09:00] <ciscosurfer> ikonia and others, maybe we could try to help out ircusr :-)
[09:00] <mwe> z0rz: sudo /etc/init.d/oracle start or whatever the name is
[09:00] <z0rz> mwe: It is started... I did /etc/init.d/oracle-xe start and stop and start and restart and configure and stop and start and everything I can think of
[09:01] <mwe> z0rz: hmm
[09:01] <ikonia> ciscosurfer: agreed if he'd stop asking ever 30 seconds, then get in a huff and sulk "guess I'll go back to windows"
[09:01] <mwe> z0rz: sudo netstat -ntlp to see what's listening
[09:01] <LjL> ircusr: you'll possibly have much better luck if you ask a specific question - as in, what you've tried and what doesn't work
[09:01] <LjL> !elaborate
[09:01] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[09:01] <terje> hi, I'd like to make a live CD based on the OS installed on my laptop. Anyone know of a tool that'll get that done?
[09:01] <cpnvidia> is there a non graphical installation of ubuntu?
[09:01] <ikonia> I don't pander to kids "I'll go back to windows then"
[09:01] <LjL> !alternate | cpnvidia
[09:01] <ubotu> cpnvidia: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:01] <z0rz> mwe: I know it's not listening .. I already checked that.. but I can't figure out why it isn't.
[09:01] <dromer> LjL: I want to add this Dapper key: http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php
[09:01] <ciscosurfer> ircusr: what is the specific problem you are having?
[09:01] <arraxca> Will anyone help me with the problem I am having, video playback seems to be broken on my system. Not matter what file I open on what media player the player will crash within seconds.
[09:02] <arraxca> anyone?
[09:02] <z0rz> I've tried different ports and uninstalling/reinstalling... can't figure it out
[09:02] <ikonia> arraxca: if you stop asking every 30 seconds - someone may help
[09:02] <mwe> z0rz: the startup script didn't suggest anything? or syslog maybe
[09:02] <dromer> LjL: or do I just put it in /etc/apt/ ?
[09:02] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: you can try updating and dist-upgrading, that may solve the issue
[09:02] <tbf> ikonia: well, but what about a simple program reading mails from stdin, filtering it via regexs and dropping it into the proper mailbox?
[09:02] <cmt^^> hur !virtualhosts
[09:02] <LjL> dromer, uh... it explains exactly what to type for that on the very site :o)
[09:02] <mwe> z0rz: I had it working about 6 months ago
[09:02] <cmt^^> !virtualhosts
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualhosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <tbf> don't need a full MTA here
[09:02] <Mrono> ugh, I hate having to use the command line for everything, especially when things are not covered in the help!
[09:02] <ikonia> tbf: nothing stands out off the top of my head
[09:02] <cmt^^> !apache
[09:02] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:02] <pbureau> Anyone have configure wpa_supplicant... ? I am confused about the wpa_supplicant.conf file. Where is i2 supposed to reside to be USED by supplicant to finally permit WPA on my wifi??
[09:02] <ikonia> a full mta is overkill, agreed
[09:03] <arraxca> I have ciscosurfer I am on the latest verison
[09:03] <LjL> dromer: "add Colin's key [which is linked to, just download]  to your APT keyring, using sudo apt-key add colin.publickey"
[09:03] <tbf> ikonia: *sig* - in former times maildrop matched that description :-(
[09:03] <ikonia> tbf: yes, I can see what your agter
[09:03] <ikonia> after
[09:03] <LjL> dromer: that means, download the key, and type "sudo apt-key add colin.publickey" in the directory that you download it in
[09:03] <dromer> LjL: but wvhere do I donload it to?
[09:03] <z0rz> mwe: I'll get back to you on that
[09:03] <LjL> dromer: it doesn't matter, download it to your desktop or wherever you like
[09:03] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: latest version of what...you said all video apps crash when trying to play media
[09:03] <tbf> let's see if procmail has a "do not fallthru" switch
[09:04] <mwe> pbureau: I have wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:04] <LjL> dromer: what matter is that you are in that directory when you type the apt-key command (or if you aren't, give the complete path instead of just "colin.publickey")
[09:04] <dromer> LjL: I just put it in /etc/apt/ and from the dir I did sudo apt-key add colin.publickey and I get : gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found OK
[09:04] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: latest version of everthing?
[09:04] <mwe> pbureau: it's working
[09:04] <LjL> dromer: NO
[09:04] <LjL> dromer: don't put it in /etc/apt
[09:04] <pbureau> mwe,  let me do that...
[09:04] <arraxca> as far as a i know
[09:04] <tom47> !RestrictedFormats | Before going any further arraxca are you familiar with
[09:04] <ubotu> Before going any further arraxca are you familiar with: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:04] <mwe> pbureau: if that's the location of the file on your machine ;)
[09:05] <LjL> dromer: besides, if you have managed to put it into /etc/apt, it means you were root while downloading it. *that is bad*
[09:05] <pbureau> what you mean..?
[09:05] <dromer> LjL: ok, I did it from my home dir now, no errors now :)
[09:05] <arraxca> yes i have been using the video playback fine for months now
[09:05] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: go to a Terminal.  Do a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:05] <LjL> dromer: just download it from your browser as a normal user
[09:05] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: then report back :-)
[09:05] <pbureau> mwe,  what do you mean ?
[09:05] <LjL> dromer: and delete the stuff from /etc/apt
[09:05] <Cryoniq> Hmm funny.. removed the last 4 reps and did apt-get update and now vlc cant be found at all in synaptic..
[09:05] <FlachusS> alguien que hable espaol
[09:05] <FlachusS> ?
[09:05] <dromer> LjL: yes I have deleted it
[09:05] <LjL> !es | FlachusS
[09:05] <ubotu> FlachusS: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:06] <ikonia> Cryoniq: removed the wrong repo's
[09:06] <mwe> pbureau: I mean sometimes wpa_supplicant.conf resides in /etc/ instead of /etc/wpa_supplicant/
[09:06] <Moniker42> how do i set up Ubuntu's network/internet connection - i didn't have the ethernet cable plugged in during the installation
[09:06] <LjL> Moniker42: system / administrator / networking or something
[09:06] <mwe> pbureau: so point it to the right place ;)
[09:06] <LjL> adiministration
[09:06] <pbureau> mwe,  so  it should reside with the actual app wpa_supplicant ?
[09:06] <mwe> pbureau: no
[09:06] <dromer> can anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2036896#post2036896
[09:06] <mwe> pbureau: it doesn't matter where. just use the correct path in the interfaces file
[09:06] <Cryoniq> those 4 was the ones I think I added since fresh install. And the reps with Breezy in them shouldnt be there. only the ones with edgy in them right?
[09:06] <FlachusS> :(
[09:07] <FlachusS> :(
[09:07] <pbureau> mwe,  geez can someone make up there minds where can a program BE or NOT BE installed.. isnt it just simpler that way... ier: PUT THE CONF file into /etc/ nomatter what... geez
[09:07] <ikonia> Cryoniq: are you using edgy
[09:07] <Cryoniq> Affirmative :)
[09:07] <mwe> pbureau: the program is installed in a fixed place
[09:07] <Cryoniq> 6.10
[09:07] <ikonia> Cryoniq: then thats what your after in the repo
[09:08] <mwe> pbureau: the configuration file can be anywhere, though, as long as you point to it
[09:08] <FlachusS> :(
[09:08] <FlachusS> :(
[09:08] <pbureau> mwe,  sorry  mate blewing steam... been at it for 4 days now....
[09:08] <LjL> FlachusS: you're spamming the channel, please stop
[09:08] <mwe> pbureau: yeah. just use /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:08] <ehir1> k i'm back
[09:08] <jmblack> ...
[09:08] <pbureau> mwe and I point to it in what manner.?? (I see more configs than pork in a pork sausage in my future)
[09:08] <ehir1> question...
[09:08] <ciscosurfer> FlachusS: do >> /join #ubuntu-es
[09:08] <Abdul> Hi all
[09:09] <mwe> pbureau: I have it where I do because I used to have a few different configs
[09:09] <ehir1> anyway
[09:09] <Abdul> can some one help me on kamap
[09:09] <ehir1> the tutorial
[09:09] <ehir1> says to do iwconfig
[09:09] <ehir1> yet, i have the problem listeed - doesnt register it
[09:09] <LjL> !enter | ehir1
[09:09] <ubotu> ehir1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:09] <Abdul> i need help on kamap GIS application
[09:09] <Cryoniq> ikonia: aye I was thinking now when I edited sources.list that those with breezy shouldn't really be there. I added them earlier because if installing Beryl (which I got working :P )
[09:09] <FlachusS> LjL:were his from?
[09:09] <ehir1> and, it isnt in network admin
[09:09] <Moniker42> "windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <windows root\system32\ntoskrnl.exe"
[09:09] <ehir1> it points to a windows emulation driver thing
[09:10] <LjL> FlachusS: sorry?
[09:10] <ikonia> Moniker42: this isn't windows support
[09:10] <ehir1> however, airport probably doesn't have windows drivers ;) and its listed as supported apparently
[09:10] <Cryoniq> ikonia: so the rest above those lines should be the ones from the fresh install. Hmm
[09:10] <mwe> pbureau: you point it by adding the correct path to /etc/network/interfaces. mine is wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf under the entry for my wifi card. yours would be wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf if that's where you put it
[09:10] <ikonia> Cryoniq: fresh install won't cut it, you need multiverse and universe in there
[09:10] <FlachusS> his from?
[09:10] <Cryoniq> But.. "should" is very relative :)
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> Moniker42: your kernel is missing.  time to reinstall :-(
[09:11] <saestudent> Hello. Im new to ubuntu and some how got it installed on my PPC. Can someone help with the flash install ?
[09:11] <Cryoniq> Ah! Arent those in there, but commented?
[09:11] <LjL> FlachusS, lo siento pero no comprendo tu pregunta. va en #ubuntu-es para espaol, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[09:11] <Pici> aside: I love when people do "hello all" in #ubuntu, like they expect ~900 people to respond.
[09:11] <ikonia> Cryoniq: enable them
[09:11] <ikonia> LjL: impressive
[09:11] <mwe> pbureau: oh. and please backup the interfaces file before changing it in case you muck up
[09:11] <Moniker42> ciscosurfer, ikonia; but i don't want to load windows! that's coming up instead of grub.
[09:11] <LjL> ikonia: not too hard, i'm italian
[09:11] <robdeman> hey gang.. how do I install java 1.5 sdk on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS machine?
[09:11] <Moniker42> i have a corrupted windows install on the same hard drive however - but ubuntu should be fine
[09:12] <saestudent> any PPC users out there?
[09:12] <ikonia> Moniker42: you've not installed grub on the boot sector - and your windows install is now gone
[09:12] <ehir1> !paste
[09:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> !reinstall
[09:12] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> nm
[09:12] <dryad> !nvidia
[09:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <ehir1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2657/ <- paste of the error on /etc/init.dnetworking restart
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> !recover
[09:12] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> sorry, nm again
[09:12] <mwe> !msgthebot | ciscosurfer
[09:12] <ubotu> ciscosurfer: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:12] <Moniker42> ikonia, but i've only just reinstalled ubuntu =( why do i need to do it again?
[09:12] <rogue780> how do I remove grub?
[09:12] <LjL> ciscosurfer: what is the matter?
[09:12] <ikonia> ciscosurfer: looks like you're having the same type of day as me
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> ikonia: haha lol
[09:13] <mwe> rogue780: you replace it
[09:13] <ikonia> Moniker42: because grub is not installed on the boot drive
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> sorry channel :-(
[09:13] <Moniker42> rogue780, don't even go there ;) why would you want to? :P or do you mean just hide it?
[09:13] <mwe> rogue780: you want the default windows MBR restored?
[09:13] <rogue780> I'm installing a linux distro that uses lilo, but the grub from ubuntu is still there even after I've tried installing lilo to the MBR
[09:13] <ikonia> Moniker42: maybe he doesn't want to use ubuntu
[09:13] <rogue780> mwe, Moniker42, Knoppmyth uses lilo
[09:13] <Moniker42> ikonia: perhaps i've made a rather large user error booboo and installed it onto the second hard drive i had plugged in at the time somehow
[09:13] <ikonia> rogue780: you've not installed lilo properly
[09:13] <ikonia> Moniker42: probably
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> Moniker42: are you trying to get back into Ubuntu or Windows?
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> Moniker42: this might help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:14] <pbureau> mwe,  okay maybe I am dumb here but in the networks config file... you want me to slap"  wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf " under Wlan0 ?
[09:14] <Moniker42> ciscosurfer, ubuntu
[09:14] <rogue780> mwe, Moniker42, ikonia, not my doing, it's the knoppmyth install script. how can I erase the MBR?
[09:14] <mwe> rogue780: you cannot uninstall grub unless you replace it. did you install lilo correctly? eg running the lilo command after editing lilo.conf?
[09:14] <mamboadm> how do i copy all the contents in one folder and move them to another?
[09:14] <pbureau> mwe,  it currently looks like "auto wlan0
[09:14] <pbureau> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[09:14] <pbureau> wireless-essid PBLC
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> Moniker42: try the link I suggested
[09:14] <rogue780> or "replace it with 0000's" or something
[09:15] <mamboadm> but keep them in the same folder as well
[09:15] <LjL> mamboadm: cp -a <dir1> <dir2>
[09:15] <mwe> pbureau: your wifi is wlan0 ?
[09:15] <Moniker42> rogue780, are you going out of your way to destroy a computer?
[09:15] <rogue780> mwe, I can't even boot to get to the lilo.conf
[09:15] <dwid> hey every time i install it freezes up at 32 percent
[09:15] <arraxca> ok my video still isn't working i updated
[09:15] <ehir1> anyone?
[09:15] <pbureau> mwe : actually it was an exmaple my car is ath0 (pcmcia)
[09:15] <ikonia> rogue780: thats your new distros support issue
[09:16] <rogue780> Moniker42, I'm just trying to get a working mythtv box working...had issues with the Unichrome chipset on my mobo and ubuntu
[09:16] <mwe> pbureau: yeah. in a line just about wireless-essid or just below auto wlan0. pastebin the file if you want
[09:16] <rogue780> ikonia, well it is ubuntu that put grub there.
[09:16] <mwe> oh
[09:16] <ciscosurfer> arraxca: you may be having trouble with your video card...try to identify which card you are using, then perhaps ask the question in the appropriate channel for your given card
[09:16] <ikonia> rogue780: your new distro isn't over writing it
[09:16] <ikonia> thats your new distro's problem
[09:16] <Moniker42> rogue780, ah ok it's just phrases like "how do i erase the MBR" and "can i replace grub with lots of 000s?" :P
[09:16] <mwe> pbureau: sorry
[09:16] <Moniker42> sounds like wanton computer destruction from the inside out ;)
[09:16] <Cryoniq> ikonia You rock! Found it now and currently installing like mad. :P
[09:16] <mwe> pbureau: put it just under iface ath0 ...
[09:17] <ikonia> Cryoniq: good man, well done
[09:17] <mwe> pbureau: not under auto ath0.
[09:17] <michael117> I'm having trouble with some flac files which amarok, with xine backend, won't play but the "Movie Player" will? Is there any program I could use to fix any inconsistencies with the flac files?
[09:17] <Cryoniq> ^^ Sometimes I wonder how I ever managed to get around in Slakware back in 1994. I really need to get hold of myself and Linux again for real :)
[09:17] <dwid> hey every time i install it freezes up at 32 percent, whats casuing that
[09:17] <rogue780> you all just hate me for dropping one of my ubuntu boxes eh?
[09:17] <Marty9> How do I install the official ATI FGLRX driver on 64-bit edgy?
[09:17] <mwe> pbureau: did you get that?
[09:18] <ikonia> rogue780: couldn't care less
[09:18] <michael117> dwid: Install Ubuntu from CD?
[09:18] <mwe> Marty9: I don't think you can
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> dwid: keep trying...this seems to be a known bug...or burn a fresh iso at a lower rate
[09:18] <dwid> thats what im doing
[09:18] <dwid> burn it at lower rate?
[09:18] <Marty9> mwe: Ok, thanks!
[09:18] <michael117> dwid: Yeah, sounds like a cd burning problem
[09:18] <Raf> hello, I need to install SVN, I have installed Ubuntu Server Dapper Drake, SVN is installed by default in my server, but I don't now how to configure SVN, is there any tutorial to learn how to work with subversion?
[09:18] <Cryoniq> (ill blame it on windows and past years online gaming. It really made me gain weight and lose skills)
[09:18] <mwe> Marty9: last I checked they didn't provide a 64 bit version. it's a while ago, though
[09:18] <michael117> dwid: <16x
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> dwid: burn the iso at a lower rate >> try 4x or even 2x
[09:19] <Cryoniq> :P
[09:19] <dwid> i thought it installed before but it turned out it was just running off the cd and everything i had done was erased
[09:19] <michael117> dwid: 2x is the safest bet
[09:19] <michael117> dwid: yeah... that's the live cd
[09:19] <mwe> pbureau: ?
[09:19] <jim2> isnt the rule slower is better?
[09:19] <Marty9> mwe: They provide a 64-bit version, but it doesn't seem to work with edgy
[09:19] <dwid> theres a different cd?
[09:19] <pbureau> mwe, this looks good ?
[09:19] <ikonia> Marty9: the drivers are kernel fussy
[09:19] <pbureau> mwe ,auto ath0
[09:19] <pbureau> ifface ath0 inet dhcp
[09:19] <pbureau> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:19] <pbureau> wireless-essid PBLC
[09:19] <ehir1> Does nobody have an idea?
[09:20] <ciscosurfer> jim2: usually.  I burn my iso's at 40x+ and get working iso's everytime
[09:20] <mwe> pbureau: it should be iface not ifface
[09:20] <pbureau> lol
[09:20] <tdn> I have a few services (proftpd and apache2) that I do not want to start up each time I boot. I only want them to start when I start them manually. How is the right way to disable the automatical start up?
[09:20] <dwid> theres a non live cd?
[09:20] <cmt^^> can someone comment on this apache-cfg and tell me why it's not working: http://pastebin.se/6213
[09:20] <ehir1> dwid: used to be
[09:20] <ehir1> well, alt install
[09:20] <mwe> pbureau: but other than that, yes. provided you placed wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/
[09:20] <ikonia> cmt^^: join #apache
[09:21] <mwe> pbureau: make sure to chmod 700 /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf for security, though
[09:21] <Cryoniq> Anyone got Beryl and DRI working on a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro btw? :)
[09:21] <mwe> pbureau: chown root.root it as well
[09:21] <tom47> dwid have you checked the cd from the menu that comes up at te beginning?
[09:21] <Abdul> do any one know about ka-map or provide help ?
[09:22] <erUSUL> tdn: install bum (graphical) or use update-rc.d (man update-rc.d)
[09:22] <ciscosurfer> Adbul: what is ka-map?
[09:22] <Abdul> i m stuck it its grid/layers
[09:22] <michael117> Cryoniq: I had it working before I reinstalled ubuntu
[09:22] <james> quick question: by default is there any firewall enabled in ubuntu edgy?
[09:22] <mwe> pbureau: I have my essid configured in wpa_supplicant.conf and not the interfaces file
[09:22] <michael117> Cryoniq: Exact model too... radeon 9800 pro
[09:22] <james> i'm having trouble connecting in to my slimserver from another machine...
[09:22] <Abdul> its GIS application mapking javascript api
[09:22] <Abdul> mapping
[09:22] <tom47> james not by default
[09:23] <ciscosurfer> Adbul: nm, looking at it now
[09:23] <Abdul> you also
[09:23] <Abdul> :(
[09:23] <svg> which easyubuntu or alternative method is the easyiest for a n00b, running 6.06 atm?
[09:23] <ciscosurfer> Abdul: nm, looking at it now
[09:23] <ehir1> It just doesn't show up as a device
[09:23] <pbureau> mwe no worries I was Su
[09:23] <tdn> erUSUL, I do not have GUI. Only CLI.
[09:23] <ciscosurfer> Abdul: now quite sure that's a Ubuntu-specific question though
[09:23] <mwe> pbureau: still chmod 700 it, though
[09:24] <MrKeuner> hi everybody,
[09:24] <james> hmm... i'm trying to figure out why i can connect to the slimserver by going to http://localhost:9000, but not http://192.168.1.10:9000
[09:24] <mwe> pbureau: or everyone will be able to read the key
[09:24] <ciscosurfer> Abdul: have you tried searching here >> http://ka-map.maptools.org/index.phtml?page=mailinglist.html
[09:24] <james> the slimserver config seems to allow connections from any IP...
[09:24] <Abdul> yeah i have
[09:24] <mwe> pbureau: not exactly safe ;)
[09:24] <pbureau> now other prolem, trying to use Kwlan.. and I get another error because its chmod 700 I cannot edit it so I get on my (insert foul mouth of words that should never be said outloud in public)  configs working...
[09:24] <michael117> Cryoniq: I can't remember all of the exact steps though because I had followed a guide on compiz.net which became beryl-project.org which then got all of its data deleted because of a hard drive failure
[09:25] <ciscosurfer> Abdul: Do a /join #kamap and ask there :-)
[09:25] <mwe> pbureau: huh
[09:25] <MrKeuner> I am using 6.10. My home LAN's WAP asks for a WEP password, and that password is saved in gnome keyring. Whenever I turn on my laptop and log in to my account I am asked for the password to unlock the keyring. But for *twice*. What is the problem?
[09:25] <mwe> pbureau: I don't know kwlan
[09:25] <IceTox> How do I recompile my kernel?
[09:25] <mwe> pbureau: you should probably run it with kdesu
[09:25] <EMalone> I'm trying to install something from the ubuntu server command line and need some help
[09:25] <ikonia> IceTox: why do you need to
[09:26] <ehir1> Anyone?
[09:26] <IceTox> ikonia: because my amsn is going slow and it doesn't seem like it's an amsn problem..
[09:26] <pbureau> mwe,  I should just go back to slackware.... I got my network to run in 12 mins flat... I like ubuntu.. but man... the wireless modules need some serious attention] 
[09:26] <rm_you|work> I'm looking for a site where I can actually download "Falcon Repository Builder"... It doesn't appear to actually be available on the author's site anymore, and none of the sites I've found let me download it :(
[09:26] <ikonia> IceTox: what makes you think its a kernel
[09:26] <ndo> ikonia, i guess cuz every linux amateur wanna try it :D
[09:26] <ciscosurfer> !kernel | MrKeuner
[09:26] <ubotu> MrKeuner: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:26] <mwe> pbureau: user programs should not be able to edit system files
[09:26] <michael117> IceTox: Get the kernel sources and I'm sure you can find a guide on ubuntu-forums.org
[09:26] <ikonia> ndo: amsn is slow does not = kernel issues
[09:26] <mwe> pbureau: if you liked it better go back ;)
[09:26] <pbureau> mwe lolo
[09:26] <ndo> ikonia, i know, just jokin' :)
[09:26] <ikonia> ahh
[09:26] <ehir1> OMGS, AIM IS SLOW. Linux is teh borked
[09:26] <pbureau> mwe,  be nice.
[09:26] <mwe> pbureau: I had my network up in 5 mins
[09:26] <ciscosurfer> ah <<<<
[09:26] <ehir1> *Amsn :p
[09:26] <IceTox> ikonia: cause I cannot find anything else wrong...
[09:27] <ciscosurfer> !kernel | IceTox
[09:27] <ubotu> IceTox: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:27] <ikonia> IceTox: sorry to be blunt but thats plain stupid !
[09:27] <michael117> IceTox: amsn is maybe bloated or something... try using gaim and adding your amsn account
[09:27] <mwe> pbureau: but I admit I have been using linux for about 10 years. that probably helps ;)
[09:27] <pbureau> mwe,  on the cat5 connection works just fine... just this dceal on WPE it works fine, but getting the WPA to work is getting annoying
[09:27] <ciscosurfer> sorry MrKeuner :-(
[09:27] <IceTox> michael117: yah, gaim is working perfectly.. I've been trying to ask in here for ages now about what it could be, but no one ever bother to answer.. :(
[09:27] <ehir1> ikonia: i would have said that if i wasn't so kind :p
[09:28] <ikonia> ehir1: has ot be said
[09:28] <ehir1> ikonia: :p
[09:28] <MrKeuner> ciscosurfer: np
[09:28] <ikonia> IceTox: that fact that you can't debug it means you should %150 not be looking at a kernel change
[09:28] <mwe> pbureau: WPA is still annoying in linux. It's slowly getting better, though
[09:28] <mamboadm> i want to just copy the file contents that is inside a file over to another dir how do i do that?
[09:28] <ciscosurfer> MrKeuner: :-)
[09:28] <levander> Is there some firewall that was installed when I upgraded to edgy?
[09:28] <ikonia> IceTox: define slow - slow to respond, slow to send messages, slow to resize
[09:28] <EMalone> Anyone know how to log out of a user and log into the root at the command line?
[09:28] <ehir1> levander: iptables has been there since forever
[09:28] <pbureau> well time toget back to work....lol thanks mwe...
[09:28] <IceTox> ehir1: try disabling that amsn plus thingie, install svn, clonsing your "offline" contacts, and if that doesn't work ask me in a couple of months whenever I find it out myself :-)
[09:28] <ehir1> In fact, since like... 2 days after linux :p
[09:29] <ciscosurfer> levander: iptables is there by default
[09:29] <ehir1> IceTox: i don't use amsn
[09:29] <EMalone> Anyone know how to logout of a user and logon to root at the command line?
[09:29] <devilsadvocate> i'm having problems running gtk-apps on kubuntu - non of the text shows up on the menus, buttons, etc. can anyone help me fix this?
[09:29] <ikonia> IceTox: you don't even know the name "amsn thingy"
[09:29] <IceTox> ikonia: slow like in responsing.
[09:29] <levander> "pgrep iptables" has no output, does that mean I'm not running it?
[09:29] <james> does iptables block anything by default?
[09:29] <ehir1> but thinkign it a kernel proble is stoopyd
[09:29] <ikonia> IceTox: so if you click on a users name - it takes ages to pop up - that sort of slow yes/no
[09:29] <ndo> ikonia, hmm, anything u can advice me about setting my webcam on Linux? (btw, its some chap unknown fabricant cam...)
[09:29] <ehir1> levander: no, its running
[09:29] <ciscosurfer> !root | EMalone
[09:29] <ubotu> EMalone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:30] <IceTox> ikonia: yes
[09:30] <ikonia> ndo: truthfully I've rarley used a web cam
[09:30] <mamboadm> how do i give the files inside a dir a different permission besides having to chmod them all individually
[09:30] <levander> ehir1: what's the name of the script to start/stop it in /etc/init.d?
[09:30] <ikonia> IceTox: when you move it around the screen fast - does that move at the correct speed
[09:30] <mwe> EMalone: use sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[09:30] <ehir1> mamboadm: chomod -R 000 /HIGHLY/ILLEGAL/WAREZ
[09:30] <ciscosurfer> mamboadm: use the -R switch
[09:30] <ehir1> except, without the o in cho
[09:30] <ndo> ikonia, as i expected :)
[09:30] <ikonia> ndo: sorry give me two minutes and we can have a play
[09:30] <ehir1> levander: don't turn iptables off
[09:30] <ikonia> ndo: if you want
[09:31] <levander> ehir1: do you know the name of the script?  i have a reaosn for stopping it
[09:31] <IceTox> yes it moves at the correct speed ikonia.
[09:31] <ndo> ikonia, np, just got home anyway, gonna go to eat some and so
[09:31] <LinAsH> james, no but you can check with iptables -L
[09:31] <Cyrus25801> hey guys
[09:31] <Alakazamz0r> Ya'll need a Ubuntu-Server channel
[09:31] <Alakazamz0r> #ubuntu-server
[09:31] <ikonia> IceTox: ok - so the problem is either around the amsn application or a plugin-type interface
[09:31] <tom47> ndo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:31] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use to back-up my dvd's
[09:31] <Alakazamz0r> nevermind
[09:31] <ikonia> ndo: ok
[09:31] <ndo> tom47, ty
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> Hiyas
[09:32] <ciscosurfer> Cyrus25801: tovid is a good one
[09:32] <ehir1> levander: no, thats a really really stupid idea
[09:32] <LinAsH> Cyrus25801, DivX-like or 1:1 ?
[09:32] <ehir1> why do you want to tuirn iptables off
[09:32] <cedriczg> hello there
[09:32] <IceTox> good for me that there are non-newbies around here to watch over us others =) Any clue what to do ikonia ?
[09:32] <Cyrus25801> ciscosurfer: thanx man will try that one
[09:32] <levander> ehir1: thanks for your expertise, can you let other people help me now and ignore me please?
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> Quick question. My default resolution is way higher than what it should be. Where do I set the default resolution?
[09:32] <ehir1> levander: you're adorable too
[09:32] <ikonia> IceTox: well your options are limited
[09:32] <cedriczg> I know there is a command to know the PCU temperature but I don't remember it
[09:33] <ciscosurfer> Cyrus25801: try searching UbuntuForums.org also for some other apps people have had good succcess with :-)
[09:33] <ikonia> IceTox: are you using any plugins or interfaces with amsn or just amsn
[09:33] <levander> neither the x_tables nor the ip_tables module is loaded in my kernel, does that mean i'm not running iptables?
[09:33] <cedriczg> anyone who knows it?
[09:33] <cedriczg> It was cat ...
[09:33] <ikonia> levander: yup
[09:33] <ehir1> levander: i repaet: why do you want to turn off iptables
[09:33] <IceTox> ikonia: I did disable the amsn plus plugin, but hang on.. I'll disable all of the plugins and try again..
[09:33] <Cyrus25801> LinAsH: like a program like dvdshrink for windows. 8gig to 4 gig and dvd to 700mb file
[09:33] <levander> ikonia: thanks
[09:33] <tom47> JairunCaloth System>Preferences>Screen > Resolution
[09:33] <ikonia> IceTox: close amsn afer disabling it - and restart
[09:33] <ciscosurfer> levander: prepend a 'sudo' before that....so......sudo iptables -L
[09:34] <james> is anyone running slimserver on edgy? has anyone had problems getting it to allow connections from non-localhost addresses?
[09:34] <Aggort5> If your looking for good linux software to match up with Windows software go to digg.com and search for linux equivilant chart
[09:34] <Aggort5> A bit older, but really handy
[09:34] <rellik_> does ubuntu come with a graphical partition manager?
[09:34] <viper> anyone have some knowledge of networking with wine?
[09:34] <JairunCaloth> tom: I'm running xubuntu, and the resolution program dosn't let me set a default
[09:34] <Cyrus25801> LinAsH: like a program like dvdshrink for windows. 8gig to 4 gig and dvd to 700mb file
[09:34] <levander> ciscosurfer: i'm pretty sure i'm not running iptables, so it's not blocking anything
[09:34] <Aggort5> relik: yes
[09:34] <cedriczg> can anyone hael me with this little command?
[09:34] <levander> rellik_: gparted
[09:34] <Cryoniq> So far so good with VLC, except.. it crash and burn when I put a DVD into it and try to play it.. hmm
[09:35] <sly007> Hello, what's the best plugin to download videos from firefox? I don't wanna play them embedded.
[09:35] <robdeman> hey folks I installed Java 1.5 JDK
[09:35] <Aggort5> Cryoniq: Read my message
[09:35] <Cyrus25801> ciscosurfer: where do i get tovid
[09:35] <robdeman> but when I do java -version it still reports java 1.4.2
[09:35] <Aggort5> Cryoniw: The site rocks
[09:35] <ciscosurfer> Cyrus25801: search the forums, don't remember if it's in the repos or not
[09:35] <cedriczg> robdeman, did you uuninstall the oldeder version first?
[09:36] <Aggort5> Cyrus: It's in my repository so it should be in yours too
[09:36] <viper> does anyone here know anything about tsocks?
[09:36] <robdeman> cedriczg: how would I do the uninstall?
[09:36] <levander> sly007: ook, video downloader, unplug, downloadhelper
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Did houlala_ get taken care of with their init script?
[09:37] <blue-frog> cedriczg: try cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[09:37] <cedriczg> blue-frog, tahnx
[09:37] <IceTox> just as slow I'm adraid ikonia :(
[09:38] <tom47> JairunCaloth: oh ... sorry i assumed it was ubuntu you had
[09:38] <cedriczg> robdeman, maybe I am wrong. Is it possible to see the java version on the synaptic?
[09:38] <ikonia> IceTox:  ok - so you need to log a bug against amsn in launchpad and give as much detail as possible
[09:38] <Cryoniq> Aggort5 hmm what message? =)
[09:38] <blue-frog> Cyrus25801: K9copy
[09:39] <ciscosurfer> IceTox: why not use Gaim?
[09:39] <cedriczg> robdeman, I just can help you with some ideas to try.
[09:39] <robdeman> cedriczg: ah it seems ubuntu is using gij
[09:39] <robdeman> some opensource bytecode interpreter for java
[09:39] <ciscosurfer> Cyrus25801: k9copy always crashed on me...out of curiousity have you had good success with it?
[09:39] <robdeman> I need to full JDK 1.5 to run the red5 server
[09:40] <mwe> !java | robdeman
[09:40] <ubotu> robdeman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:40] <cedriczg> blue-frog, I have nothing in the /proc/acpi/thermal_zone directory...
[09:41] <IceTox> ciscosurfer: because gaim is not that good with webcam support, picture support and doesn't really look that good I think :-)
[09:41] <IceTox> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2664/
[09:41] <IceTox> does that say you anything ikonia ?
[09:41] <blue-frog> cedriczg: sad... look around in the acpi folder and try to see if something can lead you to the temperature..
[09:41] <ikonia> yup
[09:41] <ciscosurfer> IceTox: amsn looks worse I'm afraid...
[09:41] <ikonia> IceTox: thats the msn encyption - its not using the version it wants
[09:42] <blue-frog> cedriczg: what proc and what motherboard?
[09:42] <Raf> any tutorial on subversion in ubuntu dapper for newbies? please!
[09:42] <oFF-beAt> how do i check n fix errors on a isk in command line?
[09:42] <oFF-beAt> *disk
[09:42] <texas319> hey all
[09:42] <IceTox> ah ok, so I should download that 1.5 version instead of that 1.50 than ikonia ?
[09:42] <GigaClon> Raf what do you need it for?
[09:42] <devilsadvocate> Raf, why subversion?
[09:43] <ikonia> IceTox: not download it - install it from the ubuntu repo's if its available
[09:43] <ciscosurfer> Raf: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-subversion-with-web-access-on-ubuntu/
[09:43] <blue-frog> cedriczg: can also install gkrellm if you don't mind the GUI. you will see quickly if you can have the temperature for your PC
[09:43] <IceTox> ciscosurfer: not for anyone used to the windows msn messenger it doesn't. If you're an all time linux-user, I understand why you're satisfied with what gaim offers you :-)
[09:43] <heydabop> My update manager and Add/Remove applications won't work.
[09:43] <texas319> how can i get my x.conf file to updat automatically,? I just added in an S3 video card for my second monitor
[09:43] <cedriczg> blue-frog, let me see
[09:43] <axion_> i noticed the new thunar is in the main repo...but apt-get wants to install an old svn version...how can i force a newer version?
[09:43] <IceTox> sure ikonia.. I'll fool around and try finding it.. Thank you very much for being helpful =)
[09:43] <ikonia> no problem
[09:43] <Raf> GigaClon: well, I need to learn to use subversion por collaborative programming, I have installed Ubuntu server dapper drake, I see SVN in installed already, but I don't know where to start to use it
[09:44] <ciscosurfer> IceTox: and if you're only using Linux from time to time, I don't see why you can't use Gaim...do you really need webcam support?
[09:44] <GigaClon> Raf, install RapidSVN its a nice GUI for svn
[09:44] <Raf> devilsadvocate: 'cause I need to work with a friend in a web project, that friend is not here
[09:45] <TiMoZi> hi, can ubuntu/xubuntu install on my SATA drive?
[09:45] <heydabop> My update manager and Add/Remove applications won't work. When I slect Apply or OK, it grays out, and doesn't do anythnig. There's no progress bar.
[09:45] <demreath> do you recommend using Edgy on server?
[09:45] <cedriczg> blue-frog, sorry my ignorancee. And which command tells me my proc and motherboard I have?
[09:45] <IceTox> ciscosurfer: it's just a matter of me feeling so comfertable with my ubuntu desktop that I can truely say that I don't need windows for nothing. Now, ubuntu has it all for me, I just want to perfectionatie it :-)
[09:45] <Raf> ciscosurfer, thanks
[09:45] <SecrethX> is there a cedega user in the room? :)
[09:45] <[Hyarion] > hi, I recently migrated to Ubuntu Edgy and I'm loving it except every couple hours everything will randomly freeze, and there's nothing in the logs about it, anyone else have this problem?
[09:45] <ciscosurfer> IceTox: ok
[09:46] <texas319> any one installed dual monitors?
[09:46] <Raf> GigaClon, is there a way to install RapidSVN with an apt-get install command?
[09:46] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : randomly? or at certain times using certain apps?
[09:46] <ciscosurfer> Raf: sure :-)
[09:46] <GigaClon> yeah its in the repos
[09:46] <devilsadvocate> Raf, if you want i could forward a short how-to on svn a friend of mine wrote
[09:46] <cac_> hi folks
[09:46] <demreath> I'm migrating a server machine from Slackware to Ubuntu. Now it's Dapper, but I consider upgrading to Edgy... What do you think?
[09:46] <Raf> devilsadvocate, pleeease yes! my email is websweaver@gmail.com
[09:47] <[Hyarion] > ciscosurfer, definitely not at certain times, while I usually have the same apps open x-chat, Firefox, etc. it's hard to tell if one of them were causing it, but I'm pretty sure it's happened with multiple apps too
[09:47] <blue-frog> cedriczg: no idea, the user's manual you got with your pc.. just install gkrellm and enable the temperature (but it is possible that such information is not avalaible...)
[09:47] <TiMoZi> im having trouble with installing on to SATA.... it actually freezes when it tried to run GParted
[09:47] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : I've heard FF has been known to crash, and perhaps if you have xchat open at the same time, your box might freeze
[09:47] <heydabop> My update manager and Add/Remove applications won't work. When I slect Apply or OK, it grays out, and doesn't do anythnig. There's no progress bar.
[09:48] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : does this happen every day?
[09:48] <Gosha> !mount
[09:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:48] <devilsadvocate> k. it was meant for internal use so its specific to us, but it should give you a pretty god idea
[09:48] <TiMoZi> I've heard Debian based kernels just can't handle SATA. is this true?
[09:48] <[Hyarion] > ciscosurfer, well, I've only been running for a couple days, and yes everyday, the issue is only when I'm using the computer, I leave all the apps running overnight without an issue.
[09:48] <cedriczg> blue-frog, as you told me the sensors were not detected
[09:48] <Gosha> !iso
[09:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[09:49] <texas319> how can i add new hard ware?
[09:49] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : that seems to be expected...in other words, it only freezes when there's activity
[09:49] <cedriczg> blue-frog, today I tried to install the lm-sensors without success, with the same problem
[09:49] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : don't have a solution for you, sorry.
[09:49] <cac_> question: How can I add free more repositories to ubuntu?
[09:49] <[Hyarion] > ciscosurfer, np, thanks anyway.
[09:49] <ciscosurfer> [Hyarion] : good luck!
[09:50] <arsen_> whois arsen
[09:50] <SecrethX> is there a cedega user in the room? :)
[09:50] <arsen_> wekx
[09:50] <heydabop> My update manager and Add/Remove applications won't work. When I slect Apply or OK, it grays out, and doesn't do anythnig. There's no progress bar.
[09:51] <ardchoille42> !easysource | cac_
[09:51] <ubotu> cac_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:51] <cac_> thanks
[09:51] <tom47> [Hyarion] : have you checked that you are not resource bound in some way eg a near full partition
[09:51] <fredl> alright, I'm going slightly nuts here.... for some reason my computer is at a load of 2 or so permanently and I can't find out why.
[09:51] <Raf> GigaClon, in rapidsvn homepage says I need wxwidgets and subversion 1.2.3 or higher, how can I know my subversion version? can I install rapidsvn with "apt-get install rapidsvn"?
[09:51] <ciscosurfer> fredl: a load of 2?
[09:51] <fredl> ciscosurfer, yes...
[09:52] <[Hyarion] > tom47, I shouldn't be, I erased all the partitions when I installed Ubuntu, e.g. no Windows or anything.
[09:52] <GigaClon> yeah or synaptic
[09:52] <ciscosurfer> Raf: sudo aptitude install rapidsvn
[09:52] <ciscosurfer> fredl: what is a load of 2?
[09:52] <Raf> ciscosurfer, thanks
[09:52] <ciscosurfer> Raf: sure
[09:52] <fredl> the only thing I can observe is that xorg seems to be using 51m of residual memory
[09:52] <Math^> hello, I've got some direcotry with another subdirs and they all begin with: www.....com, how to change the www. par to nothing?
[09:52] <tom47> [Hyarion] : type top in a termianl and see if there is a process that is hogging cpu or simiar ....
[09:52] <bayziders> hi, i was looking on http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=10 but none say that they support burning mp3s do they?
[09:52] <Raf> ciscosurfer, just a little thing, why aptitude and not apt-get?
[09:53] <Math^> like www.site.com to site.com?
[09:53] <ciscosurfer> bayziders: dl and use k3b
[09:53] <fredl> ciscosurfer, you don't know what load is??
[09:53] <ciscosurfer> Raf: I prefer it...it handles dependencies better...just my opinion though
[09:53] <[Hyarion] > tom47, ya, I was hoping it might have been that but no luck.
[09:53] <Raf> ciscosurfer, ok, thanks again
[09:53] <ciscosurfer> fredl: I was pulling your leg, buddy
[09:53] <tom47> [Hyarion] : also you could add the system monitor to yr task bar and it will indicate if there is something odd happeneing
[09:53] <ciscosurfer> fredl: a load of 2 just sound...funny
[09:53] <fredl> how in the bloody hell can Xorg be using 51m residual memory?!?!?!
[09:54] <ciscosurfer> sounds
[09:54] <[Hyarion] > tom47, I'll try adding it to my taskbar, thanks.
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:54] <Raf> ciscosurfer, once rapidsvn installed how can I acces ii via web?
[09:54] <ciscosurfer> Raf: couldn't say
[09:54] <fredl> and it's consuming a very large chunk of CPU time it would seem.
[09:54] <ciscosurfer> Raf: not a subversion guy myserlf
[09:54] <Raf> ciscosurfer, ok
[09:54] <fredl> is the nvidia Xorg driver known to consume huge amounts of memory???
[09:55] <ciscosurfer> Raf: I believe rapidsvn is simply a gui front-end to subversion
[09:55] <GigaClon> Raf you should have the address line from the repo you want to acess
[09:55] <padlefot> wow, beryl worked nice in gnome, compared to XGL
[09:55] <padlefot> fredl: not really..
[09:56] <Raf> GigaClon, do you know a subversion tutorial for newbies, I've never used subversion before
[09:56] <Sp4rKy> i've some problem with munin, when i install _only_ munin-node on client, i don't have any module printed in the server side , and if i install munin package on the client, it works
[09:56] <GigaClon> Raf question what do you need it for, is there a existing svn repo you need access to, or do you need to create one
[09:56] <fredl> padlefot, just the nvidia kernel module uses up one heck of a lot of memory it seems... fredl@positron:~$ lsmod|grep nvi
[09:56] <fredl> nvidia               4552052  12
[09:56] <ciscosurfer> Raf: that link i sent was no good, huh?
[09:57] <ciscosurfer> Raf: you want to run a subversion repo don't you....not access one....i think i got confused
[09:57] <Jowi> Math^, it is quite simple: rename 's/www.//' *
[09:57] <fredl> Anybody else here happen to have an Asus EN7600GS?
[09:57] <Math^> someone know how to change a whole dir with the rename command like this: www.site1.com, www.site2.com, www.site3.com to: site1.com, site2.com and site3.com ???
[09:57] <padlefot> fredl: i really have no idea.. nvidia               6827412  32
[09:57] <Jowi> Math^, it is quite simple: rename 's/www.//' *
[09:57] <MrKeuner> I am using 6.10. My home LAN's WAP asks for a WEP password, and that password is saved in gnome keyring. Whenever I turn on my laptop and log in to my account I am asked for the password to unlock the keyring. But for *twice*. What is the problem?
[09:58] <padlefot> fredl: seems like its common though
[09:58] <MrKeuner> using nm-applet
[09:58] <Math^> Jowi, thank u very much
[09:58] <ciscosurfer> see ya channel
[09:58] <fredl> padlefot, well the kernel module I might understand, it probably reports board memory or something as well.
[09:58] <Raf> ciscosurfer, hehe, I'm going to read that page
[09:58] <ciscosurfer> Raf: okay
[09:58] <IntuitiveNipple> In Gnome menus, if I add a custom command, is there any way to get Gnome to prompt for parameter to be passed to the command ?
[09:58] <Math^> Jowi, what means the s in this part?
[09:58] <Jowi> np Math^
[09:58] <cac_> Has anyone used krdc option in ubuntu?
[09:58] <tom47> MrKeuner: what do you mean "But fr *twice*" ?
[09:58] <Raf> ciscosurfer, yes, I want to run a subversion repo
[09:59] <fredl> padlefot, it might be the same for the Xorg server though, but that doesn't explain why it uses up that much CPU
[09:59] <cac_> I mean remote connection with another user...
[09:59] <ciscosurfer> ikonia: you play nice now while i'm gone...:-)
[09:59] <MrKeuner> tom47: same dialog appears twice overlapping
[09:59] <Jowi> Math^, replace. 's/texttoreplace/replacewiththis'
[09:59] <Math^> Jowi, thnx :)
[09:59] <tom47> MrKeuner: ah ok that is clearer .... i had no idea what you were talking about
[09:59] <cac_>  Has anyone used krdc to share the desktop with another computer user  in ubuntu?
[09:59] <pbureau> mwe you around
[10:00] <fredl> hmm it seems my mysql server is also using a PHENOMENAL amount of memory
[10:00] <adaptr> fredl: what numbers are you looking at ?
[10:00] <fredl> adaptr - the RSS column in ps xal
[10:00] <steel_lady> nobody still has any suggestions about my network printer?
[10:00] <heydabop> I'm having problems with WINE. I'm running a program that uses a disk. My computer meets and passes the minimum requirerments, but video in the program is choppy and leaves artifacts, and the game runs slow.
[10:01] <cac_>  Has anyone used krdc option in ubuntu?
[10:01] <EMalone> when you emulate windows with wine, it losses performance
[10:01] <heydabop> Oh.
[10:01] <EMalone> games run slower
[10:01] <cac_>  Has anyone used krdc option in ubuntu?
[10:01] <heydabop> I thought that was a myth.
[10:01] <heydabop> cac_: No.
[10:01] <heydabop> I haven't/
[10:01] <axion_> EMalone: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[10:02] <axion_> but the performance is not near native, yes
[10:02] <tom47> heydabop have you tried the WineHQ channel/
[10:02] <heydabop> Ok.
[10:02] <heydabop> No, is it #winehq?
[10:02] <tom47> think so
[10:02] <cac_> I would like to learn how to use this fenomenal program to share you computer with another partner in another place around the world
[10:02] <heydabop> Ok.
[10:03] <devilsadvocate> someone postd a configure output here a few minutes ago?
[10:03] <steel_lady> tom47, so you did install network printer?
[10:04] <tom47> steel_lady yes but its a tiny lan at home and i do all my own sys admin
[10:04] <EMalone> CaC: go to system... preferences... remote desktop, and you can use vnc
[10:04] <cac_> but I need a person who wants to share his or her desktop
[10:04] <adaptr> fredl: even the resident set is largely shared - or my machine wouldn't even be able to run the 8 mysqld's @ 28M per thread
[10:04] <tom47> steel_lady and i personally set the tcp/ip address in the networked printer
[10:04] <cac_> watching my porn pics and videos
[10:05] <cac_> this is the best gift ubuntu brings
[10:05] <adaptr> fredl: hmm.. unless the percentage is ram + swap...
[10:05] <cac_> to offer ubuntu users
[10:05] <fredl> adaptr, yeah I'm a bit familiar with it, but I'm fighting windmills trying to narrow down what's causing my system to be at a load of over 2 constantly
[10:06] <cac_> its called krdc
[10:06] <devilsadvocate> does anyone know how to install windows over ubuntu via some kind of virtualization?
[10:06] <MrKeuner> ops
[10:06] <pbureau> anyone can help me with WPA_PSK TIK keyword needed in wpa_supplicant.conf file to enter the tik password to my network ?
[10:06] <MrKeuner> !ops
[10:06] <feesh> what do you do when aptitude and apt-get install segmentaion fault?
[10:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> MrKeuner: ?
[10:06] <ucordes> !paste | ubuntu
[10:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <gnomefreak> MrKeuner: ?
[10:06] <pbureau> feesh,  reinstall from cd
[10:06] <ernstp> how are you supposed to use the vmware-server-modules ? vmware server installer won't detect them!
[10:06] <MrKeuner> tonyyarusso: cac_
[10:06] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: you can use vmware (downloaded from their site) that's the one I've had the most luck with
[10:06] <steel_lady> tom47, I tried to put some things and it looks that it is detecting something, when I put other things it tells me down that it can not find it but when i put something in particular, it tells that that server is busy and will try in 30secs but nothing. 3 years ago in RedHat I remember somebody was installing a printer here on their laptop and it lasted like 5mins to detect printer network but it was not through the printer wizzard. Do you have so
[10:06] <steel_lady> me suggestions?
[10:06] <feesh> pbureau: your kidding me man :|
[10:07] <SecrethX> can you save the buffer of the active terminal window?
[10:07] <pbureau> feesh,  yes i a,
[10:07] <pbureau> tam
[10:07] <pbureau> am
[10:07] <pbureau> geesz
[10:07] <feesh> pbureau: do you know a solution which doesn't involve reinstall from cd :D?
[10:07] <feesh> or how to prevent this from happening again?
[10:07] <pbureau> feesh,  nope last time it did that.. I reinstalled..
[10:07] <vai_ro> is it possible to do a server install from a live cd?
[10:08] <feesh> damn
[10:08] <feesh> cheers dude
[10:08] <kiamo> can anyone help me set up grub to dual boot windows and linux?
[10:08] <OrangeOrange> where the task manager in ubuntu.. i need to kill firefox since its frozen
[10:08] <tom47> steel_lady sometimes there is a delay but in my lan i dont usually see anything other than a few seconds ....
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | kiamo
[10:08] <ubotu> kiamo: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:08] <cac_> it is very easy kiamo
[10:08] <feesh> !apt-get_segfaults
[10:08] <kiamo> cool thanks guys :)
[10:08] <cac_> I have both windows and ubuntu installed using grub
[10:08] <devilsadvocate> kelsin, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being installing compiz /xgl on dapper and 1 being apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird, where would you place the complications involved in running windows on vmware? i only ask because the reason i want it is because im too lazy to reboot every time i need a  little wondows app
[10:08] <fredl> anybody here has a Geforce 7600/6600? What's a decent approx. of how many FPS glxgears should give?
[10:09] <superkirbyartist> How do I make the two bars reappear?
[10:09] <cac_> first install windows
[10:09] <agnostic> running X, i can`t change to console with keyboard combination  Ctrl+Alt+Fn...
[10:09] <tom47> steel_lady is it a network printer directly or is it attached to another computer?
[10:09] <cac_> no the contrary
[10:09] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: I would say it depends on how comfortable you are installing windows, if you are it's like a 2. VM is really nice, graphical, and simple to configure
[10:09] <superkirbyartist> The bar on top and the bar on the bottom, they have dissapeared, how do I put them back?
[10:09] <steel_lady> tom47, is there any other way to try to install it but a printer wizzard? I remember it was a long wait just the first time, later it was functioning imediately
[10:09] <cac_> do not forget to add a partition, leave it in blank
[10:09] <SHRIKEE> http://digg.com/tech_news/The_mysterious_shrinking_Google_Pagerank
[10:09] <steel_lady> tom47, it is a network printer
[10:09] <eisma> if i get this
[10:09] <fredl> I'm getting only approx. 4k FPS with glxgears....
[10:09] <eisma> eisma@eisma-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:10] <eisma> Password:
[10:10] <devilsadvocate> thanks kelsin
[10:10] <cac_> for making space to both linux ext3 and linux swap
[10:10] <eisma> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:10] <eisma> what do i do?
[10:10] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
[10:10] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: you do have to register, but it can be a lot easier then other emulators/virtualization, esp if you just want ONE windows install for simple programs
[10:10] <tom47> what sort of printer and model???? i can find the tcp/ip address of this one using the small screen on the printer by searching through the menus
[10:10] <fnord123> Hi all! I was curious how I might verify with my X server and client that I am indeed successfully running aiglx and Xorg-air. I'm trying to get this newfangled compiz working and this is a troubleshooting step. :-/
[10:10] <cac_> the windows goes too fast, do not write to quickly my friends
[10:10] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: (free register)
[10:10] <cac_> I cannot teach my learners
[10:10] <eisma> anyone know how i fix "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "?
[10:11] <kiamo> i installed windows second on a seperate hard drive, and when that hard drive is in i cant go to linux... how can i set up a menu asking me whether i want to boot linux on one hard drive or windows from the other?
[10:11] <blue-frog> fredl: what says   glxinfo  ?
[10:11] <OrangeOrange> how can i remove the CD icon and my other HD icon on my desktop
[10:11] <devilsadvocate> thansk kelsin , exactly what i wanted to know.
[10:11] <tom47> Steel_lady can you use the menus on the printer itself to find out its address???
[10:11] <cac_> try to use fdisk
[10:11] <fredl> blue-frog, well it says direct rendering is on....
[10:12] <cac_> with the Ubuntu cd
[10:12] <cac_> live cd
[10:12] <blue-frog> fredl: at the beginning of the output... direct rendering... server glx vendor string..
[10:12] <fredl> blue-frog, and server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[10:12] <MrKeuner> nalioth: cac_ is back
[10:12] <steel_lady> tom47, you mean, fisically to go to the printer and try to ask it?
[10:12] <fnord123> hey wow. my glxinfo says I don't have direct rendering anymore. weird!
[10:12] <fredl> blue-frog, and OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GS/PCI/SSE2
[10:12] <agnostic> eisma - do exactly what it say
[10:12] <fredl> blue-frog, so it has detected my card properly alright...
[10:12] <eisma> i already did
[10:13] <nalioth> !tell cac_ about enter
[10:13] <pbureau> anyone can help me with WPA_PSK TIK keyword needed in wpa_supplicant.conf file to enter the tik password to my network ? (ie: for wpe its wireless key xxxxx, what is it for WPA PSK TIK ?)
[10:13] <eisma> but it's from downloading flash and it getting stuck
[10:13] <cac_> then run partitions option and then you must see a windows with ntfs configuration
[10:13] <eisma> so i want out of it
[10:13] <eisma> i don't want to run it
[10:13] <cac_> if you do not see, that is a problem
[10:13] <blue-frog> fredl: have you installed nvidia drivers (either from synaptic or from nvidia)?
[10:13] <tom47> steel-lady yes
[10:14] <Nalleman> Is there anyone who knows if it is possible to use the same bookmarks in firefox in both ubuntu and windows.
[10:14] <Livedifferent> Hello! I am something of a noob, and I have a question or two regarding Ubuntu.
[10:14] <crouchingturbo> Can you do anything to recover when the primary user loses sudo access?
[10:14] <MrKeuner> Nalleman: probably there is a firefox plugin for that
[10:14] <blue-frog> Nalleman: yes it is an html file
[10:14] <crouchingturbo> (not in group admin anymore)
[10:14] <adaptr> fredl: and you're complaining that you get "only" 4000 FPS ?
[10:14] <fredl> blue-frog: I they come standard in Ubuntu don't they?
[10:14] <devilsadvocate> Nalleman, it is thereticall possible... you could write an application to sync both the book marks each time you bootup
[10:14] <kelsin> Nalleman: try the google browser sync
[10:14] <DarthLappy> Livedifferent: Ask away.
[10:15] <blue-frog> fredl: no you have to install nvidia-glx from synaptic then
[10:15] <fredl> adaptr, yes, the 7600GS should get more than the 6600 which comes in at about 8000FPS
[10:15] <devilsadvocate> Nalleman, google browser sync is a better idea :)
[10:15] <kelsin> Nalleman: you can find it on the google labs website, syncs up cache / cookies / bookmarks via your gmail account, won't great
[10:15] <brasko> crouchingturbo: that's interesting, how did you loose sudo access?
[10:15] <adaptr> fredl: you have seen this personally ?
[10:15] <kelsin> Nalleman: works* great
[10:15] <Livedifferent> Thanks! What would be the best manner in which to dual boot an OEM'd Windows with Ubuntu? I know how to install it and such, but I can't figure out which way to partition/dual boot.
[10:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Nalleman: Yes it is: create a symlink in Linux to your Windows Firefox profile's bookmark.html
[10:15] <blue-frog> fredl: once it is done you have to   sudo modprobe nvidia  (just in case..) then..
[10:15] <Jowi> crouchingturbo, yes, boot into rescue/recovery mode and add yourself back to the admin group
[10:15] <IntuitiveNipple> (assuming your Windows partition is mounted with ntfs-3g read/write
[10:16] <Nalleman> IntuitiveNipple,  what is a symlink?
[10:16] <crouchingturbo> Jowi: thanks, is that on the normal boot up menu?
[10:16] <adaptr> blue-frog: nvidia-glx won't install restricted-modules... or will it ?
[10:16] <fredl> blue-frog, my bad, it's installed already.
[10:16] <fredl> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[10:16] <Jowi> crouchingturbo, yep. a rescue/recovery line should appear below the one you usually use
[10:16] <blue-frog> fredl: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and then restart your session (ctrl alt return)
[10:17] <crouchingturbo> thanks Jowi
[10:17] <fredl> blue-frog, it's already enabled.
[10:17] <adaptr> fredl: GS is about 50% worse than the GT - goes for both 6600 and 7600, so if you have a 6600GT and a 7600GS that would be perfectly normal
[10:17] <blue-frog> fredl: have you seen nvidia logo when you restarted your session?
[10:17] <fredl> blue-frog, no I don't get that.
[10:17] <bosozoku> why does my Flash play back stop after 3sec
[10:17] <adaptr> oops
[10:17] <MrKeuner> IntuitiveNipple: NTFS write support is not "not recommended" anymore?
[10:17] <bosozoku> on youtube or google video?
[10:18] <fredl> blue-frog, but I have the nvidia kernel module loaded.
[10:18] <blue-frog> fredl: then there is something wrong with your nvidia-glx install
[10:18] <bosozoku> have Firefox 2.0.0.1.  Tried Flash 7 and 9 codecs.
[10:18] <EMalone> does your flash work in IE?
[10:18] <bosozoku> IE?
[10:19] <EMalone> n/m, lol
[10:19] <MrKeuner> bosozoku: I have that on some videos on youtube, does it start after a while and stop again in a loop?
[10:19] <cac_> Internet Explorer
[10:19] <bosozoku> negatory
[10:19] <bosozoku> IE under Ubuntu?
[10:19] <bosozoku> um
[10:19] <Livedifferent> Would anyone be able to contact me via e-mail, since my problem is rather minor?
[10:19] <cac_> yeah it is possible using wine
[10:19] <fredl> blue-frog, so what to do??
[10:19] <bosozoku> cac, i have no desire to run M$oftware
[10:20] <cac_> me neither
[10:20] <cac_> I have 50 distros
[10:20] <devilsadvocate> IE under wine.. that certainly sounds sado masochistic to me
[10:20] <adaptr> fredl: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:20] <kelsin> devilsadvocate: unfortunately needed if you web-design :-(
[10:20] <blue-frog> fredl: besides trying to purge and then reinstall nvidia-glx , dunno
[10:20] <cac_> wine is the encoder in order to make windows programs run...
[10:20] <adaptr> fredl: (if using edgy, that is)
[10:20] <devilsadvocate> ah
[10:21] <bosozoku> any ideas about Flash problem tho?
[10:21] <blue-frog> adaptr: oh no mor nvidia-glx-config in edgy?
[10:21] <fredl> blue-frog, argh, I had already done sudo nvidia-xconfig obviously :)
[10:21] <devilsadvocate> well, im installing windows on emulation to write shitty j2me code so i guess i cant complain about ie on wine
[10:21] <pbureau> anyone can help me with WPA_PSK TIK keyword needed in wpa_supplicant.conf file to enter the tik password to my network ? (ie: for wpe its wireless key xxxxx, what is it for WPA PSK TIK ?)
[10:22] <adaptr> blenope
[10:22] <Quarupt> What do I need to install so to play wmv from firefox
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> !restricted | Quarupt
[10:22] <adaptr> !nvidia | blue-frog: it's been updated
[10:22] <ubotu> Quarupt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:22] <ubotu> blue-frog: it's been updated: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <padlefot> can anybody tell me a good way to make tvout work with nvidia carda?
[10:22] <padlefot> *cards
[10:22] <adaptr> !tvout
[10:22] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[10:22] <blue-frog> adaptr: ok am using the nvidia drivers directly so..
[10:22] <marecki> Marecki
[10:22] <adaptr> "newbieedition", heh
[10:22] <adaptr> adaptr
[10:23] <marecki> Marecki
[10:23] <padlefot> ubotu: thats a shitty howto
[10:23] <Gosha> if a site i visit shows nothing but @AQ[pbhL[ATCX when it's supposed to show japanese, and i know it .. what can i do?
[10:23] <adaptr> blue-frog: "directly" ?
[10:23] <fredl> nvidia-xconfig is also supposed to figure out what kind of monitor is in the system right?
[10:23] <GigaClon> Gosha, change encoding
[10:23] <blue-frog> adaptr: the .run file
[10:23] <marecki> marecki
[10:23] <Gosha> GigaClon: ..how would i do it in ia terminal?
[10:24] <adaptr> Gosha: change the page's character set representation
[10:24] <Gosha> hoo
[10:24] <cac_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/
[10:24] <GigaClon> terminal I don't know but its under the View menu in Firefox
[10:24] <marecki> marecki.pl
[10:24] <adaptr> Gosha: is it Kanjijapanese-whatever, or UTF-8 ?
[10:24] <Gosha> okay
[10:24] <Gosha> adaptr: what is, the site?
[10:24] <adaptr> yes
[10:25] <adaptr> if it's Unicode, you could try running links with UTF-8 in graphics mode (if it supports that, but I don't see why not)
[10:25] <Gosha> i dont know, since it just shows up gibberish
[10:27] <Gosha> ah, thanks .. but .
[10:27] <adaptr> Gosha: then get its headers, with wget or whatever
[10:27] <fredl> argh.
[10:27] <adaptr> it should set a content-encoding or summin
[10:27] <Gosha> .. i managed to take the right encoding ... thanks
[10:29] <IceTox> Anyone know if mercury messenger is added to sources somehow?
[10:29] <xai> anyone know how to configure NUT for belkin f6c1500 usb?
[10:31] <ucordes> !zsh
[10:31] <ubotu> zsh: A shell with lots of features. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.2-13ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2131 kB, installed size 6440 kB
[10:31] <brainly-green> what are the main reasons why starting a process has higher overhead than calling a function?
[10:32] <micktm> hi! someone knows if there's a software to convert a real video in a common free format?
[10:33] <xtknight> micktm: mencoder could do it
[10:33] <micktm> ok
[10:33] <xtknight> micktm: but i couldn't tell you how exactly.  you'd have to read the manual
[10:33] <brainly-green> superficially they seem pretty similar, with the difference that a process can only directly take string arguments and produce string output
[10:34] <xtknight> brainly-green: a process involves creating another thread and the kernel has to schedule that thread
[10:34] <xtknight> brainly-green: additionally it has to allocate memory for the process etc.  arguments are stored on the stack when passed to an internal function, but they are stored in a string array when passed to a process which is inherently slower
[10:34] <mareks> i have ssh setup on my dapper drake server edt, how to configure sftp?
[10:35] <mareks> i want to be able to login and have access to /home
[10:35] <cac_> how to install firestarter in Ubuntu?
[10:35] <mareks> not just /home/<user_name>
[10:35] <nataku_> !ati
[10:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:35] <xtknight> mareks: set your ftp root to the higher level directory
[10:35] <brainly-green> but wait, you can store binary data in an input string
[10:35] <mareks> xtknight: where do i set that?
[10:36] <xtknight> mareks: /home instead of /home/$USER i assume.  sorry, i dont have much of a clue where to set it but i know that's what you'd do
[10:36] <brainly-green> it wouldn't look like a string but would it be inherently any more inefficient than declaring types to be int and such?
[10:36] <blue-frog> cac_: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hmmm, my bandwidth quota has 96GB left until 30th January - how to use it up?
[10:36] <brainly-green> or do you have to do extra processign to ensure that the input string doesn't accidentally contain special characters
[10:37] <cac_> it said i cannot find the paquet firestarter
[10:37] <blue-frog> cac_: nedd to enable universe or multiverse and reload apt-get
[10:37] <brainly-green> what I'm thinking is that if the OS provided a mechanism for starting a process without making a new thread--running it as if it were a function in the parent process--and for having arbitrary binary arguments, that would be a universal interface between any two languages
[10:38] <cac_> how can I enable?
[10:38] <blue-frog> cac_: use synaptic
[10:38] <micktm> mencoder can't convert real files!
[10:38] <brainly-green> because then every function could be compiled into a program and called as if it were a function
[10:38] <cac_> I am using adept
[10:38] <kelsin> brainly-green: look into using LISP :)
[10:38] <cac_> Is not the same?
[10:38] <brainly-green> why lisp kelsin?
[10:39] <blue-frog> cac_ sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe line
[10:39] <xtknight> brainly-green: the stack is stored in cpu cache to my knowledge, which is faster than memory.  yes in order to store 50000 as an integer it would be 5 0 0 0 0 (5 bytes) and that would be that.  but to store it as a string it would be "53 48 48 48 48" and that would have to be converted to an integer
[10:39] <pbureau> anyone can help me with WPA_PSK TIK keyword needed in wpa_supplicant.conf file to enter the tik password to my network ? (ie: for wpe its wireless key xxxxx, what is it for WPA PSK TIK ?)
[10:39] <xtknight> brainly-green: if you want to call an external function, look into dynamic link libraries
[10:40] <erUSUL> brainly-green: yes, use lisp. Start with emacs, a good OS that lacks a good text editor XD
[10:40] <brainly-green> xtknight well if 50000 were an unsigned 16-bit integer, it could be passed in 2 characters
[10:40] <ckebabo> hi
[10:40] <kelsin> brainly-green: I wasn't listening to hard to your conversation, just commenting on the "running a compiled program as a function", in LISP you often work very different then we're used to with C. programs are often just functions that you compile and run on the fly
[10:40] <xtknight> brainly-green: 2 ?  how is that?
[10:40] <Moniker42> hey, i can't get my internet working just after re-installing ubuntu
[10:40] <brainly-green> well maybe 1 character, if your character is 2 bytes
[10:40] <xtknight> brainly-green: (assuming you mean one character is one byte)
[10:41] <cac_> How can I save in Vi?
[10:41] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. what does one do when a network application report this on startup and I killed the process for it that was there? : [GUI]  StartServer ERROR: unable to bind to 127.0.0.1:6880 listening for passed torrent info: Address already in use
[10:41] <cr1mson> How do I play streaming windows media?
[10:41] <xtknight> cac_: press escape, and then colon and w     (for write).  type escape, colon, q to quit or q! to quit and ignore readonly
[10:41] <xtknight> cac_: or escape colon wq  to write and quit in one line
[10:42] <cac_> thanks
[10:42] <brainly-green> if you just set each bit of the character to the corresponding bit of the integer
[10:42] <pike_> cac_: from a terminal run "vimtutor"
[10:42] <xtknight> brainly-green: always five bytes for 50000 though regardless of the form, right?
[10:42] <cac_> Good
[10:43] <brainly-green> 50000 is a single integer, 2 bytes of data if it's unsigned, 3 if it's signed
[10:43] <brainly-green> integers go from -32768 to 32767 if they're signed
[10:43] <xtknight> brainly-green: could you explain how the integer 50,000 would like in 2 bytes?
[10:43] <xtknight> brainly-green: would look like *
[10:44] <brainly-green> a 2 byte integer is 0 to 65535 I think (could be wrong on the last digit there) if it's unsigned
[10:44] <xtknight> brainly-green: 2^2 would be a 2-bit integer, 0-7 unsigned
[10:45] <brainly-green> 2 bits is 0-3 unsigned
[10:45] <xtknight> brainly-green: oh, sorry you said 2 byte.  never mind ;)
[10:45] <Dasnipa] [> silly xtknight
[10:45] <xtknight> brainly-green: in other words 16-bit.  yes, 0-65535
[10:45] <xtknight> hehe
[10:45] <n2diy>  I have vnc see working locally, now I want to try to access my box from the local library, how do I do that?
[10:46] <xtknight> brainly-green: sorry, im just having a brain freeze right now.  50000 could definitely fit into 2 bytes with an integer, but it would need 5 for ascii or 10 for unicode string
[10:47] <brainly-green> it could be represented in 2 bytes in ascii too
[10:47] <ehir1> anyone?
[10:47] <xtknight> i guess, but it wouldnt be a string
[10:47] <brainly-green> just write each individual bit and you'll get a couple of nonsense characters that represent the number
[10:47] <MrKeuner> I am using 6.10. My home LAN's WAP asks for a WEP password, and that password is saved in gnome keyring. Whenever I turn on my laptop and log in to my account I am asked for the password to unlock the keyring. But the same dialog appears *twice* overlapping. What is the problem?
[10:47] <Zambezi> How can I make an extra user?
[10:47] <xtknight> brainly-green: but that's not the main reason it's slower.  when you start a process the kernel has to do all sorts of stuff that causes the registers to be flushed/etc
[10:47] <brainly-green> but that would be understandable to a program
[10:47] <tripitaka_> hi, my X server fails on startup with 'no screens found', it's a new install on an old laptop. Any suggestions on the best way to configure X? I'm using 6.06
[10:47] <pike_> n2diy: might need to set it up on port 443 to be safe or something alot of places have mildyly strict firewalls
[10:48] <trev_> does anyone have a problem with homeworld under wine here?
[10:48] <xtknight> Zambezi: system->admin->users
[10:48] <n2diy> pike_: roger that, but how do I set the route to my box, just to try it?
[10:48] <brainly-green> ok so I'm saying what if the OS had support for not doing that stuff--for not starting a new thread when starting a new process
[10:48] <Zambezi> xtknight, I'm not running a X-server.
[10:48] <pike_> n2diy: to be safe http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11808 maybe
[10:49] <xtknight> Zambezi: man adduser
[10:49] <n2diy> pike_: ok, tnx.
[10:49] <pike_> n2diy: id get it working on localhost first
[10:49] <pike_> on that port
[10:49] <n2diy> pike_: it is working locally.
[10:49] <kelsin> brainly-green: it still needs to load in the code, load in a new virtual memory space and stuff like that, unless you have all of your code loaded at once, total for all programs ever, which would cause a lot of thrashing anyway
[10:49] <tripitaka_> is there a command for configuring X, along the lines of superprobe or XSetup in ubuntu?
[10:50] <brainly-green> the OS could have support for preloading programs
[10:50] <erUSUL> tripitaka_: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:50] <xtknight> brainly-green: what would be the point, though ?
[10:50] <brainly-green> just like a library include
[10:50] <kelsin> brainly-green: I might have missed the beginning of this convo, what is the point?
[10:50] <brainly-green> if the OS did that then you could call functions in any language, from any other language
[10:50] <xtknight> brainly-green: you could just statically link your programs with the libraries you need, and you're converting threads into functions that way, i guess
[10:51] <ehir1> The network controller tha tcomes up is
[10:51] <ehir1> Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4328
[10:51] <xtknight> ehir1: wireless?
[10:51] <tripitaka_> erUSUL: xserver-org is not installed
[10:51] <ehir1> xtknight: yep, Airport
[10:51] <brainly-green> without having to use CORBA or COM or whatever
[10:51] <xtknight> ehir1: bcm43xx module
[10:51] <ehir1> NOT extreme tho -s o that howto is useless
[10:51] <ehir1> -hough
[10:51] <ehir1> though
[10:51] <kelsin> so you basically mean build the functionalilty of .net or COM into the OS?
[10:52] <Crescendo> Is there a way to install Ubuntu in a grid, rather than on one machine?
[10:52] <xtknight> brainly-green: well, that's really the point of COM i guess.  though DLLs still have threads for flexibility.
[10:52] <ehir1> !paste | erate
[10:52] <ubotu> erate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:52] <ehir1> paterate!
[10:52] <ehir1> paste.
[10:53] <kelsin> brainly-green: yeah... you still have to make sure every languages compiles, or byte compiles to a standard format. Just making one format standard on a OS level doesn't seem to accomplish much
[10:53] <xtknight> brainly-green: i do see the point in what you're talking about, though once the DLL is loaded and in memory i think the overhead is greatly reduced from the first call
[10:53] <ehir1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2680/ sudo lspci -v output
[10:54] <xtknight> ehir1: did the bcm43xx module not detect it?
[10:54] <brainly-green> hmm
[10:54] <Moniker42> i've got network connection issues... doesn't recognise DHCP but the router's working fine with this computer wirelessly and the other computer's linked to the router by ethernet
[10:55] <xtknight> ehir1: if not you may have to resort to ndiswrapper and extract the firmware from the windows sys driver.
[10:55] <xtknight> sorry, gotta go
[10:55] <mystic_touch> Hello :)
[10:55] <brainly-green> well the only advantage I was really thinking of is standardness
[10:55] <ehir1> can't do even that, xtknight
[10:55] <Snoose> hello, after finally getting my dial-up modem to work i am trying to get multiple programs to use the connection at the same time.
[10:55] <ehir1> Airport hardly has windows drivers, being its an apple product :)
[10:55] <Snoose> i ran into a page telling how to do this but i can't find it again
[10:55] <Moniker42> i've got network connection issues... doesn't recognise DHCP but the router's working fine with this computer wirelessly and the other computer's linked to the router by ethernet
[10:55] <kelsin> brainly-green: yeah, one reason why Jython and JRuby exist :)
[10:55] <erUSUL> tripitaka_: is xserver-xorg
[10:55] <brainly-green> because every compiled language can become a program
[10:55] <dfdf> help! I don't want to install all the codecs in the package w32codecs - is it possible to install individual ones?
[10:55] <jfro> is there a link to a solution for libc6 being hosed on recent update?
[10:55] <jfro> one i found was something to do with pthread causing conflict
[10:55] <Moniker42> dfdf, just download them all they're not big files...
[10:56] <spinster> Hello people i running linux ubuntu 6.06 and i want to install BitchX can somebody help me ( how to install it a ? )
[10:56] <erUSUL> tripitaka_: at least make a good  copy+paste ;)
[10:56] <Moniker42> i've got network connection issues... doesn't recognise DHCP but the router's working fine with this computer wirelessly and the other computer's linked to the router by ethernet
[10:56] <dfdf> Moniker42, I know, where do I put em? do I need to run any config commands?
[10:56] <brainly-green> jython only works between 2 languages though
[10:56] <Moniker42> dfdf, dunno...
[10:56] <spinster> somebody here ?
[10:56] <brainly-green> not for any pair of languages
[10:56] <Moniker42> i've got network connection issues... doesn't recognise DHCP but the router's working fine with this computer wirelessly and the other computer's linked to the router by ethernet
[10:56] <tripitaka_> erUSUL: that's working nicely - copy and paste accross two keyboards, not so well :D
[10:56] <jfro> update completely hosed my system it seems
[10:57] <Seveas> !bitchx | spinster
[10:57] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[10:57] <kelsin> brainly-green: sorry I meant porting languages to the java vm, there really can't be a single solution that would allow you to call any function from ANY possible language without that lanuage supporting it
[10:57] <Seveas> !universe | spinster
[10:57] <ubotu> spinster: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:57] <Proximale> Pardon me for being an otherwise useless ubernoob to ubuntu, but I have a problem that I have not found on the site or in the user documentation
[10:57] <Seveas> !offtopic kelsin brainly-green
[10:57] <Seveas> !offtopic |kelsin brainly-green
[10:57] <ubotu> kelsin brainly-green: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:57] <wepeel> hi all. If I'm browing a directory via the file browser is there a way to open a terminal window in the directory I'm looking at?
[10:57] <Seveas> Proximale, tell us more :)
[10:58] <Proximale> My ethernet card is not detected on my celeron box
[10:58] <TJ_> I am conducting a survey on whether or not people think that Linux is better that Windows, and why they think so. Anybody who would like to participate, just paste your response in a one line answer. Thanks in advance
[10:58] <Seveas> Proximale, is it listed in the output of lspci
[10:58] <Proximale> no
[10:58] <Seveas> TJ_, this is not the channel for questionnaires
[10:58] <Amaranth> Proximale: then it's not plugged in :)
[10:58] <adaptr> TJ_: your sampling domain is useless, you do realise that ?
[10:59] <Seveas> Proximale, can you pastebin th lspci output maybe?
[10:59] <Seveas> (via another nic or a floppy/usb stick)
[10:59] <Proximale> well, I thought that, so I pulled off the cover and it is still firmly in the pci slot
[10:59] <tripitaka_> TJ_: Try asking if people here ever use IRC :)
[10:59] <Proximale> my gf has my usb
[10:59] <ehir1> TJ_: i bet the answers in here are 100% opposite of ##windows people
[10:59] <ehir1> i wonder why
[10:59] <Proximale> and my laptop doesnt have floppy
[10:59] <frootstripe> what is this line from df:  tmpfs    1038412         0   1038412   0% /dev/shm
[10:59] <Seveas> then find your gf ;)
[11:00] <Amaranth> frootstripe: system stuff, ignore it
[11:00] <Proximale> very well then
[11:00] <TJ_> i am asking these questions an both, it is the "why" that i need
[11:00] <Seveas> frootstripe, that's posix shared memory support
[11:00] <tripitaka_> shm == shared memory
[11:00] <adaptr> punish your gf
[11:00] <Moniker42> hello? someone help me here?
[11:00] <Seveas> !someone | Moniker42
[11:00] <ubotu> Moniker42: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:00] <adaptr> probably not, eh ?
[11:00] <tripitaka_> erUSUL: My X server is now up and running. I salute you sir.
[11:00] <Moniker42> seveas i've asked the question several times and been ignored
[11:00] <mwalsh> haylo guys
[11:00] <mwalsh> one quick question
[11:01] <Seveas> Moniker42, fair enough :)
[11:01] <Seveas> try asking again, I'll try to help
[11:01] <Moniker42> Seveas, ubuntu not connecting to the internet automatially
[11:01] <pbureau> anyone can help me with WPA_PSK TIK keyword needed in wpa_supplicant.conf file to enter the tik password to my network ? (ie: for wpe its wireless key xxxxx, what is it for WPA PSK TIK ?)
[11:01] <ehir1> Anyone? :/
[11:01] <Moniker42> *automatically
[11:01] <Seveas> Moniker42, a bit more info....
[11:01] <Moniker42> the router's working, i'm on the internet through it wirelessly right now and i had it working with the same computer yesterday
[11:02] <Seveas> pbureau, make your life easier and install network-manager-gnome (or knetworkmanager for KDE)
[11:02] <rellik> I tried to mount a partition and it hung so I killed it..  now I cannot mount the dev..  (unknown filesystem type). fdisk on the drive reports 'unable to read /dev/hdc'..  is there anything I can do to save the data, or even just the drive itself (can I reformat/repartition and trust the drive?)
[11:02] <Seveas> Moniker42, what encryption?
[11:02] <Moniker42> ethernet cable -is- plugged in as it wasn't last time i had this problem
[11:02] <Moniker42> none, it's wired for the other computer
[11:02] <Seveas> rellik, man dd_rescue
[11:03] <bubbles2002> question - I am installing ubuntu dual boot on my windows XP system.. when I launch the partitioner - there is no option to let ubuntu handle the partition (as it shows in all the docs Ive read) only to A) erase everything and B) manually do it.
[11:03] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: does mii-tool or ethtool show a good link on that interface?
[11:03] <rellik> Seveas, no man page for dd_rescue :)
[11:03] <mwalsh> bubbles can you do it manually?
[11:03] <bubbles2002> and i am a bit intimidated to do it on my own.
[11:03] <Mrono> !install
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:03] <wolfwalker> Right, I'll need the pastebin for this one
[11:03] <wolfwalker> !pastebin
[11:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <mwalsh> well bubbles check it out and if you feel intimidated just cancel
[11:03] <Mrono> !universe
[11:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:03] <bubbles2002> thats what i did
[11:03] <bubbles2002> and that brought me here
[11:04] <bubbles2002> why is the option to let ubuntu handle it missing?
[11:04] <mwalsh> i dont think its there to begin with
[11:04] <Veljko> Hi, gyz! Using Ubuntu 6.10. Am connected to a big network (campus network over VDSL). Wanted to scan shares (looking for movies), but, there is not an option for this ( or I cannot find it). Can someone recommend a tool for that (grafical interface prefered)
[11:04] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: If you want to see exactly what's happening on the interface, you can run 'tcpdump -n eth0' (if that's the right interface name) in one console, and '/etc/init.d/network restart' in the other
[11:04] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, i used ummm, damnit i forgot the command now... sudo fup eth0 / sudo fdown eth0 or something similar and got a response saying it had recognised the interface but it wasn't connecting to dhcp
[11:04] <oFF-beAt> !ntfsfix
[11:04] <mwalsh> is your drive already partitioned
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <bubbles2002> yes
[11:04] <kazuka> does anyone know why amd is much cheaper than intel cpus?
[11:04] <oFF-beAt> !ntfs-lib
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <bubbles2002> its already partitoned
[11:04] <mwalsh> well
[11:04] <oFF-beAt> !ntfs
[11:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:04] <mwalsh> it would show up as
[11:04] <mwalsh> sda1 and 2
[11:04] <xtknight> kazuka: they aren't, speed wise
[11:04] <userundefined> kazuka: it's arguable that they are.
[11:04] <mwalsh> did yuou see those options
[11:05] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, i'll try that brb
[11:05] <mwalsh> if sda is your main drive, the partitions would be numbered
[11:05] <wepeel> hurm. So I made a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal...anyone know how to open a terminal in the directory one is currently browsing with the file browser?
[11:05] <tripitaka_> Monitker42: go root (sudo su -) and run mii-tool
[11:05] <mwalsh> it would say the first partition, the XP partition, is ntfs
[11:05] <tripitaka_> it should show '100 FD ok' or something
[11:05] <bubbles2002> i have 3 partitions - and they are all NTFS
[11:05] <xtknight> kazuka: intel's core 2 duo e6300 at $180 beats anything you can get from amd, by a large margin, for the same price
[11:05] <bubbles2002> and a second HD.
[11:05] <Sky_hawk[nowind] > #openmsx
[11:05] <mwalsh> well ubuntu setup should label the partitions sda1, sda2, and sda3
[11:06] <bubbles2002> it does label them
[11:06] <wolfwalker> Oooookay, I have trouble installing USB drivers for my modem
[11:06] <mwalsh> and then it changes the chosen partition to ext3 file system and deletes the ntfs part
[11:06] <bubbles2002> one is the root which is where i assume i need to put the partiton
[11:06] <wolfwalker> Here's where I got them: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cayman3341/
[11:06] <Rynoo> is there a way go get rid of the "information text" like when I hover my mouse over the "Applications" menu it says "Browse and Run installed applications" ?
[11:06] <dfdf> wolfwalker, get a real modem
[11:06] <mwalsh> bubbles2002: can you delete a partitiona nd make it an unpartitioned space through a program in XP?
[11:06] <kazuka> xtknight: yes that is true but i was in the market for a new system and some retailers have amd cpu + mobo combo which is very very pleasing in the pockets
[11:06] <wolfwalker> When I went to the extracted folder and entered make, here's what it gave me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2687/
[11:06] <xtknight> Rynoo: those would be more-accurately called tooltips, but i don't know of a way to disable them.  maybe there is a way in gconf
[11:07] <wolfwalker> Can anyone tell from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2687/ what I was doing wrong?
[11:07] <JoshJ> So what VM programs on Edgy support Vista?
[11:07] <bubbles2002> are u saying make a partition in XP - and use that partiotn for ubuntu?
[11:07] <xtknight> JoshJ: vmware
[11:07] <wolfwalker> VMWare would wouldn't it?
[11:07] <xtknight> kazuka: example?
[11:07] <JoshJ> i haven't tried
[11:07] <JoshJ> i don't want to start off barking up the wrong tree :P
[11:07] <wolfwalker> You'd need a Vista cd though, I think
[11:07] <JoshJ> i have one
[11:07] <mwalsh> bubbles2002: make it an unpartitioned space, instead of formatting the partition to ntfs, so ubuntu can make the space into ext3.
[11:07] <rebz> does anyone know the command to issue to grub so it reboots to a specific menu entry?
[11:07] <wolfwalker> And you'd take a processor hit
[11:07] <JoshJ> yes, i know about virtualization penalties etc
[11:08] <wolfwalker> Best to just install it and dual-boot
[11:08] <JoshJ> ew no
[11:08] <wolfwalker> What's wrong with dual-booting?
[11:08] <Mrono> hey guys i need the apt command for required dep
[11:08] <wolfwalker> I love it
[11:08] <bubbles2002> im not sure how to make it unpartitoned space
[11:08] <Mrono> i don't remember what they were
[11:08] <JoshJ> because then i have to reboot into the OTHER os if i need to use a program for that
[11:08] <tehsu> anyone install sound drivers on gateway laptops?
[11:08] <xtknight> Mrono: what dependency are you missing?
[11:08] <Mrono> !configure
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <wolfwalker> C'est la vie
[11:08] <Mrono> c++
[11:08] <mwalsh> bubbles2002: wat partitioning program do you use
[11:08] <n2diy>  I have vnc see working locally, now I want to try to access my box from the local library, how do I do that?
[11:08] <xtknight> Mrono: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:08] <Mrono> !install
[11:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:08] <Mrono> ahh
[11:08] <Mrono> thanks
[11:08] <kazuka> xtnight: www.chipsandmemory.com
[11:08] <tehsu> or Soundmax driver for ubuntu
[11:09] <bubbles2002> i think i just used windows xp to do it.
[11:09] <kazuka> xtknight: www.chipsandmemory.com
[11:09] <JoshJ> so i'm wanting to install vm and put vista in the vm
[11:09] <JoshJ> so i can nuke my xp partition once and for all :P
[11:09] <userundefined> JoshJ: why not install the XP into the vm?
[11:09] <mwalsh> bubbles2002: so figure out which of the sda1, sda2, and sda3 is the parition you want to set up ubuntu on and just select that one to install on
[11:09] <dfdf> wolfwalker, alright... what's the problem?
[11:09] <DARKGuy> Has anybody looked into the bug of GAIM that sometimes it doesn't show the next text until you highlight the entire conversation window? or is it the Ubuntu build?
[11:09] <JoshJ> userundefined because i don't have an XP cd
[11:09] <wolfwalker> |JoshJ:| Bwahahaha!....... right?
[11:09] <xtknight> Mrono:  C++ library itself is libstdc++6-dev.  however build-essential provides the C++ compiler
[11:09] <bubbles2002> ok im gonna try that.
[11:09] <bubbles2002> thanks.
[11:09] <JoshJ> XP came preinstalled on this computer
[11:09] <pako> hola
[11:09] <xtknight> DARKGuy: odd, i dont have that issue
[11:10] <JoshJ> so i don't have the cd
[11:10] <xtknight> DARKGuy: what version
[11:10] <wolfwalker> dfdf, the drivers I downloaded are here http://sourceforge.net/projects/cayman3341/
[11:10] <xtknight> kazuka: gotcha, one sec
[11:10] <pako> hello
[11:10] <DARKGuy> xtknight: how do I check?
[11:10] <xtknight> DARKGuy: help about
[11:10] <JoshJ> i do have a vista cd that i got through  .edu
[11:10] <Vinadot> hi, i have a problem about setting wireless connection (wpa) who can give me a quick solution :(
[11:10] <DARKGuy> xtknight: right, found it. 2.0.0beta3.1 it says
[11:10] <wolfwalker> And what I got when I tried to run the makefile is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2687/
[11:10] <kazuka> my ubuntu crashes on my machine
[11:10] <xtknight> DARKGuy: same here
[11:10] <kazuka> how do i fix it
[11:10] <mwalsh> Can anybody tell me whats wrong with my fstab thats causing my internal ntfs to not mount?\
[11:10] <dfdf> wolfwalker, well, if you're trying to build source packages, you better know how to program
[11:10] <oFF-beAt> somebody put ntfsfix tool in some repository pls... since a lot ppl r using ntfs with ntfs-3g
[11:11] <dfdf> I suggest buying yourself a real modem though
[11:11] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, "tcpdump -n eth0" gives me "no suitable device found"
[11:11] <userundefined> kazuka: you first have to identify the problem.  Is it just the graphics server crashing or the entire box locks up?
[11:11] <manience> Hi guys
[11:11] <oFF-beAt> they will at some point will need to do ntfsfix
[11:11] <xtknight> kazuka: those amd CPUs (semprons) pretty much pale in comparison to core 2 duos
[11:11] <JoshJ> ntfsfix is in ntfsprogs
[11:11] <JoshJ> i think
[11:11] <wolfwalker> The source package was already built
[11:11] <wolfwalker> I thought........
[11:11] <tripitaka_> rebz: check the grub config file, /boot/grub/menu.1st. Change the 'default' number to the entry you want to boot
[11:11] <xtknight> ntfsfix = ?
[11:11] <DARKGuy> xtknight: Well, it's weird o.o sometimes what friends say doesn't appear or appears cut, until I highlight the entire chat conversation or scroll down, sometimes I have to close the window and open it again because text goes invisible oO
[11:11] <wolfwalker> I don't know a lot about linux
[11:11] <oFF-beAt> i've wasted much time looking for it n found no .deb package.. just now converted rmp
[11:11] <oFF-beAt> rpm
[11:11] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: how mii-tool?
[11:12] <xtknight> DARKGuy: i sorta know what you're talking about.  text height seems to be a bit untuned at times.  i dunno i think it's happened to me once where it's been cut but it's never been invisible and i dont recall having the issue lately.
[11:12] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| this was the instructions for assembly Installation
[11:12] <wolfwalker> ------------
[11:12] <wolfwalker> Go to directory src. Type:
[11:12] <wolfwalker> 	make
[11:12] <wolfwalker> 	sudo cp cayman3341.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
[11:12] <wolfwalker> 	sudo depmod
[11:12] <wolfwalker> After that you can plug the modem in and configure your new network device.
[11:12] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, yeah some jerk took my hard disk n unmounted it without safely removing it and had so many errors on it.. and won't mount on ubuntu.. i was told to get ntfsfix to fix it
[11:12] <manience> What is the reason for, that after boot my mplayer tells me that the pcm device is busy?
[11:12] <oFF-beAt> and no deb packages anywhere on any repos
[11:12] <ctmhvdfx> I need to install onto a fake RAID1. How do I do this?
[11:12] <dfdf> wolfwalker, yea? at what part does it fail?
[11:12] <oFF-beAt> just some rpms on ntfsproject
[11:12] <Veljko> LAN Shares search tool needed. Any ideas?
[11:12] <yazid> anyone who has google earth running with an nvidia glx enabled X server? starts, independent of composite manager, but I get tile salad....
[11:13] <DARKGuy> xtknight: yeah, sometimes :/ I've been thinking in rebuilding it from source to see... x)
[11:13] <wolfwalker> I went to src directory in the terminal, typed make, and this was what I got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2687/
[11:13] <csete> I'd liked to use the escputil package on my Edgy install.  Where can I find the correct raw USB device to use?
[11:13] <axa-axa> Hi. On Ubuntu I've installed and used for a while kubuntu-desktop. Now I'm back to Gnome and wish to use ubuntu's not kubuntu's usplash while starting and shuting down, so I've tried `sudo update-alternatives --config  usplash-artwork.so` but it only reverted ushplash to ubuntu while shuting down, when starting ubuntu kubuntu's usplash shows. Can someone please tell me how to fix this?
[11:13] <userundefined> yazid: yeah I can run it fine, direct rendering enabled.
[11:13] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, mii-tool?
[11:13] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| I don't know enough about Linux yet to be able to say at what point it failed. All I know is the error sheet was too long to paste here :/
[11:13] <DARKGuy> xtknight: I need to go brb though xD, brb!
[11:14] <swampysc> is there any place I can get a little help with ircd dancer?
[11:14] <dfdf> wolfwalker, well, your system's libs were probably not compatible with the ones needed by the package
[11:14] <wolfwalker> |axa-axa:| just reinstall clean from the ubuntu iso disk :)
[11:14] <ctmhvdfx> I need to install Edgy onto a fake RAID1. How do I do this? I have alternative install CD and LiveCD.
[11:14] <dfdf> there's no easy fix - buy yourself a real modem
[11:14] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: open an xterm and run 'sudo mii-tool'
[11:14] <wolfwalker> I can buy any modem instead of using the one my ISP provided?
[11:14] <tada> ciao, c' qualche italiano?
[11:15] <jalins> hola
[11:15] <jalins> sc el jordi
[11:15] <n2diy> ! it | tada
[11:15] <ubotu> tada: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:15] <wolfwalker> !spanish
[11:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:15] <axa-axa> wolfwalker: what? whole system? Thank you but I would have much work to do after if I install fresh system only because usplash :)
[11:15] <tada> ok
[11:15] <jalins> Hola em dic Jordi
[11:15] <wolfwalker> |axa-axa:| Yeah, true.............
[11:15] <huddlej> ts
[11:15] <jalins> hi ha alg que parli catal
[11:15] <Yancho> Is it possible to install ubuntu via a usb cd drive?
[11:15] <Odyssey> wolfwalker, probably
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !es | jalins
[11:16] <ubotu> jalins: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:16] <n2diy> ! es | jalins
[11:16] <mwalsh> Yancho: shouldnt be  aproblem, thogh its not recoomended
[11:16] <Yancho> y not mwalsh ?
[11:16] <xtknight> Yancho: yes
[11:16] <Math^> anyone know how to delete all files with -R ended with a ~? like file~.txt
[11:16] <n2diy>  I have vnc see working locally, now I want to try to access my box from the local library, how do I do that?
[11:16] <xtknight> Yancho: i have installed my ubuntu thru a usb cd
[11:16] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| so can I just go out and buy a modem instead of using the one my ISP sent me? And if so, what kind do you recommend?
[11:16] <xtknight> Yancho: no problems
[11:16] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me how to revert usplash while starting Ubuntu from kubuntu's usplash to ubuntu's? I've tried with `sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so` but with not success.
[11:17] <Yancho> xtknight using partition ?
[11:17] <mwalsh> Yancho: Its just not recomended to use a usb device as an install or operating system device but its no big deal.
[11:17] <xtknight> Yancho: what do you mean?
[11:17] <Seveas> axa-axa, after that command run: sudo update-initramfs -u
[11:17] <swampysc> is there any place I can get a little help with ircd dancer?
[11:17] <quantombone> Math: write a script
[11:17] <Math^> hey Seveas
[11:17] <Odyssey> axa-axa, perhaps you could remove some kde packages
[11:17] <dfdf> wolfwalker, hmm.... before buying an adsl/cable modem (any should work, but make sure its an ethernet one), try to ask your isp for an ethernet modem
[11:17] <ehir1> Anyone?
[11:17] <xtknight> Yancho: i put the ubuntu install cd in the usb drive (instead of my undetected IDEs) and installed normally
[11:18] <xtknight> ehir1: bcm43xx didn't work, i assume?
[11:18] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| My modem HAS an ethernet port............ when I run pppoeconf it can't get the access concentrator on it.
[11:18] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| That's why I was trying the USB route
[11:18] <Math^> quantombone, is there now way to something like this?: rm -R *~.* (or is this wrong) need to be sure
[11:18] <jalins> hola
[11:18] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok"
[11:18] <axa-axa> Seveas: Thank you.
[11:18] <xtknight> !es | jalins
[11:18] <ubotu> jalins: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:18] <dfdf> wolfwalker, your modem doesn't have its own pppoe client?
[11:19] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: Great, so the link's good.
[11:19] <oFF-beAt> volume is scheduled for check.please boot into windows twice, or use the 'force' mount option. error: could not execute pmount.. why does it have to be twice
[11:19] <makuseru> has anyone heard about Ubuntu Studio yet?
[11:19] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| What does that mean?
[11:19] <dfdf> wolfwalker, before, when you were using windows, did you need to install extra software to use the modem?
[11:19] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, ok so how do i get interweb activityness up and a-la working?
[11:19] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: try running this as root: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:19] <quantombone> Math^: rm *~.* will remove all files that contain '~.'
[11:19] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, k
[11:19] <Moniker42> root terminal?
[11:19] <xtknight> hm
[11:20] <xtknight> i recommend rm \~  instead of rm ~
[11:20] <xtknight> you could remove your home directory
[11:20] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: Connect tube A into tube D, taking care not to set light to tube B
[11:20] <Math^> quantombone, ok thnx
[11:20] <quantombone> Math^, be careful with rm -R though
[11:20] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| yes, I had to run a Winblows disk
[11:20] <ehir1> Really need some help here :-?
[11:20] <Math^> quantombone, I know, thats why i want to be sure of it :)
[11:20] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, what? :P
[11:20] <wolfwalker> |dfdf:| Really craptastic too
[11:20] <ehir1> wolfwalker: Would it be a sagen>
[11:20] <ehir1> -sagem
[11:20] <wolfwalker> A what?
[11:20] <mareks> anyone know how to configure different ftp roots for different users on vsftp?
[11:20] <ehir1> the modem
[11:21] <tripitaka_> also, if you 'set -f' in your shell, you turn off globbing / expansion etc, makes it easier to get files with funny characters in them
[11:21] <wolfwalker> Cayman 3341
[11:21] <ehir1> sagem make crappy winblows-only usb modems, but they are kinda supported by linux
[11:21] <ehir1> But you should get a new mode if so :)
[11:21] <ehir1> *modem
[11:21] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: what happens when you restart networking with '/etc/init.d/networking restart'?
[11:21] <dfdf> wolfwalker, can you go to your router's config page? you sure it can't do the pppoe itself?
[11:21] <Moniker42> brb i'll go do it
[11:21] <wolfwalker> This modem is a Netopia, model Cayman 3341 and it has an ethernet port
[11:21] <wolfwalker> And I don't have a router
[11:21] <Moniker42> stupid computer in a stupid different stupid room from stupid where i am...
[11:21] <Moniker42> >.<
[11:21] <Moniker42> brb
[11:21] <swampysc> does he have a router???????
[11:22] <Harkins> I'm having trouble with wifi-radar -- I see the network, but when I try to connect it just says "Could not get IP address!" Any ideas?
[11:22] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: IIRC, you should see DHCP discover from your machine, followed by a DHCP offer from the router
[11:22] <wolfwalker> It was suggested I get a cheap router, use it and the Winblows to connect, then use the router to get internet to the Linux computer
[11:22] <Moniker42> iirc?
[11:22] <Harkins> It worked before I updated to the current kernel, but I don't know where to start debugging.
[11:22] <wolfwalker> Would it be that simple (when I get the money for a router)?
[11:22] <Harkins> Moniker42: "If I recall correctly"
[11:23] <tripitaka_> Harkins: thanks
[11:23] <swampysc> is there any place I can get a little help with ircd dancer?  It has driven me nutzzzz for 4 days now!!!
[11:24] <makuseru> is there a command to install KDE on ubuntu
[11:24] <dfdf> w00t for mplayer-mozilla!
[11:24] <wolfwalker> !ubuntu to kubuntu
[11:24] <wolfwalker> !ubuntu/kubuntu
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu/kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <wolfwalker> Phooey
[11:24] <JoshJ> it's apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <fridge> is there an ubuntu equivalent to /etc/redhat-release -- ie a file with the current distro version in it?
[11:25] <Moniker42> no dhcp offers received
[11:25] <tripitaka_> fridge: /etc/issue
[11:25] <wolfwalker> As I was asking..............
[11:25] <Moniker42> d'you think i need to configure my rouer somehow?
[11:25] <wolfwalker> It was suggested I get a cheap router, use it and the Winblows to connect, then use the router to get internet to the Linux computer
[11:25] <wolfwalker> Would it be that simple (when I get the money for a router)?
[11:25] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: Maybe, maybe..
[11:25] <Zuph> I'm having something of an odd problem in 6.06.  I'm running an inspiron 6000 laptop.  I have an external USB mouse plugged into it.  Whenever I put my laptop to sleep and then wake it up, the scroll wheel doesn't work unless I change the driver around or reboot the system.  The middle click works, just not the scroll wheel.
[11:25] <Math^> hmm rm *~.* gives me this: rm: cannot remove `*~.*': No such file or directory... how to remove all files endend with a ~ ?
[11:25] <jorgp> I am trying to put a single 6.5Gb .dmg file onto a dvd-dl, any suggestions? ISO of course will not work
[11:26] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: have you tried configuring a static IP on that interface and pinging the router, jsut to make sure the interface is ok?
[11:26] <DBFT> is there a way to use the package installer to install hellanzb?
[11:26] <n2diy> ! pptp
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <wolfwalker> Anybody?
[11:26] <n2diy>  I have vnc see working locally, now I want to try to access my box from the local library, how do I do that?
[11:27] <Moniker42> tripitaka_, no i haven't.... i'm gonna go fix my hard drive partitions (on my todo list for tonight) and fix the internet tomorrow
[11:27] <Moniker42> thanks anyway tripitaka_
[11:27] <tripitaka_> Moniker42: np, good luck
[11:28] <andre_> wofwalker im a newbie but i have 2 pcs on one router lan ,one is windblows and the other debian works great
[11:28] <ehir1> Anyone?
[11:28] <wolfwalker> |andre_:| Which did you use to connect?
[11:28] <swampysc> I'll back later...got to run, have a nice day
[11:28] <wolfwalker> And was the other one connected as simply as plugging in a cat5e cable?
[11:28] <computer13137> Hey
[11:29] <DBFT> Is there a way to make an application launch on startup?
[11:29] <andre_> i guess they are both in the router its lan
[11:29] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to setup a PAN between my computer and my bluetooth enabled phone. I have them connected, but I'm wondering how I can determine the phone's IP address in reference to the computer?
[11:29] <andre_> they each connect
[11:29] <kelsin> DBFT: if you're using gnome, System->Pres->Session then select the startup programs tab
[11:29] <computer13137> I'm trying to run Ubuntu Edgy Eft on an nVidia GeForce 5500FX card... and it won't work, even with the Live CD.  X server won't start.  I've been over this five million times in the last two days, so I already know what I need to do is install the driver... how do I do that exactly?  If somoene has a tutorial link or can walk me through it in PM, it would be most appreciated.
[11:29] <ehir1> Surely soeone uses Airport
[11:30] <DBFT> thanks kelsin  :)
[11:30] <wolfwalker> So the router is what does the connecting.
[11:30] <Nipoc> hey anyone know, what i need to do to get flash drives to mount with read/write access?
[11:30] <wolfwalker> Good, my ISP has linksys support for their tech support group :/
[11:30] <andre_> i guess you could have one wired and the other ethernet wireless
[11:30] <computer13137> Since I can't install Edgy without X server, I'll be installing breezy.
[11:30] <andre_> yes the router
[11:30] <DBFT> is there a way of entering the password at the same time as issuing the command (the command is gksu /opt/lampp/lampp start)
[11:31] <kazuka> Nipoc: what Filesystem are you using?
[11:31] <DBFT> Since I want it starting up I dont want it to always ask for a password on startup
[11:31] <andre_> i havent yet played with linux to have a debian or ubuntu as the firewall
[11:31] <Nipoc> kazuka: it's fat32 on the flash drive
[11:31] <wolfwalker> |andre_:| What I was wondering was, after the router is connected......... is connecting another computer as simple as plugging up an ethernet cable?
[11:32] <kazuka> Nipoc: I can write to the flash drive. ubuntu automounts it and all i have to do is write something on to it.
[11:32] <ET-Ben> crimsun: You here?
[11:32] <ehir1> Does nobody use an imac here?
[11:32] <wolfwalker> |kazuka:| Yeah, but I found out you have to unmount it before you yank it out. Found out the hard way. :/
[11:32] <Nipoc> kazuka: it seems to only mount mine with read only
[11:32] <andre_> thats what i have i have 5 ports in my router and router is on my dsl and bothe pc are wired
[11:33] <wolfwalker> Couldn't for the life of me figure out why it wouldn't save the file after I took the flash drive out
[11:33] <andre_> you get the address from the router and your second pc should recongnize it
[11:33] <FooAtari> hi. im trying to mount a shared folder on my xp machine to a folder I have created in my home folder.  i have samba installed but am unsre of the command to use in terminal to mount the folder
[11:34] <mpetersen> Can anyone tell me how to do a network boot/install that offers the option to do RAID (and LVM, but that's there now), or will I have to boot from the alternate install CD?  I tried server and server-expert, but no luck...
[11:34] <kazuka> wolfwalker: Nipoc: in my ubuntu version it works fine i dont have to umount it to get it written on.
[11:34] <Nipoc> Kazuka:  wolfwalker: i think i've fixed it, thanks
[11:34] <Xtreem> are there any good programs that can take a movie of the desktop? like in those fancy beryl demos?
[11:34] <wil> i need mac help
[11:35] <n00bicus> As in using Ubuntu on a Mac?
[11:35] <wil> yes
[11:35] <savvas> my ubuntu desktop is gone, even after killing nautilus and after restarting. i tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, but nothing. can someone tell me how to make my desktop work again? (6.10 edgy)
[11:35] <TheVault> Hello guys. I was wondering what version of Ubuntu is coming out after 6.10?
[11:35] <Math^> how to remove all files containing some special caracter? for example I want to remove all my files containing with a tilde (~) at the end of the file. rm -R *~.* doesn't work...
[11:35] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to setup a PAN between my computer and my bluetooth enabled phone. I have them connected, but I'm wondering how I can determine the phone's IP address in reference to the computer?
[11:35] <kelsin> Math^: rm *~
[11:36] <wil> n00bicus, i was wondering if i really should install ubuntu on my imac g3
[11:36] <TheVault> What version of Ubuntu comes after 6.10?
[11:36] <Math^> kelsin, lol... that easy :)
[11:36] <pike_> FooAtari: smbfs but im not sure of syntax dont really use samba much
[11:36] <Math^> kelsin, thnx
[11:36] <savvas> TheVault: feisty fawn, 7.04
[11:36] <kelsin> Math^: np
[11:36] <TheVault> Savvas - Thank you. Do you know of a website where I can get a glimpse of upcoming features or update about this release?
[11:36] <FooAtari> thanks pike
[11:36] <savvas> !feisty
[11:36] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <n2diy>  I have vnc see working locally, now I want to try to access my box from the local library, how do I do that?
[11:37] <savvas> TheVault: what ubotu said :)
[11:37] <HymnToLife> n2diy, forward the appropriate port in your router
[11:37] <TheVault> Thank you Ubotu
[11:37] <Cyrus25801> i'm a newbie.how do i know if im running kde or gnome
[11:37] <andre_> ubotu is there a video versions of ubuntu that will be released with that feisty
[11:37] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: if you installed Ubuntu with default settings: Gnome, if you installed  Kubuntu: KDE
[11:38] <GionnyBoss> hi all!
[11:38] <savvas> andre_: ubotu is a bot
[11:38] <HymnToLife> !ubotu | anders_home
[11:38] <ubotu> anders_home: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:38] <HymnToLife> andre_*
[11:38] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: will k9copy work on gnome
[11:38] <pequatre> hi. I'm using a Fast 800 usb modem which works fine, thx to the ueagle drivers, but i saw on the wiki that an MTU of 1492 is best, yet mine is 9178. Can anyone help me with that ?
[11:38] <n2diy> HymnToLife: Ok, what about routing? I'm showing a local addr connection, and a remote addr, connection, don't I have to tell the box at the libraray, how to reach my box?
[11:38] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: yes all programs will work, it might not be as "in-sync" with your desktop as it would be on kde, but they will run and function just fine
[11:38] <ehir1> Anyone?
[11:38] <andre_> sorry  i guess ia am not intellingent
[11:38] <n00bicus> How much RAM does your PC have, wil?
[11:39] <n00bicus> I think for older computers like that, you need xubuntu, wil
[11:39] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: what do you mean in-sync
[11:39] <HymnToLife> n2diy, you need to use the WAN IP (the one you get from your ISP)
[11:39] <ehir1> andre_: "im dumb" doesn't inspire people to help you ro give sympathy
[11:39] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: most gnome programs will use gnome's help system when accessing help, k9copy might load up kde's help system, stuff like that
[11:39] <HymnToLife> the connection will arrive at your router, and it will forward it to the computer you tell it to
[11:39] <andre_> i know just trying to be funny haha
[11:39] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: nothing that should matter, a lot of gnome people use k3b for cd burning all the time, k9copy should run fine
[11:40] <mpetersen> Does anyone know about the PXE Boot/install process?  Could I make a new mini.iso to support RAID-1 on installation from netboot?
[11:40] <GionnyBoss> I can't let my laptop W-LAN work correctly under Ubuntu... I configured it in the System -> Administration -> Networking session correctly, but it doesn't work. I have a Dell Inspiron laptop. Can anybody help me, please or does anybody have suggestions, please?
[11:40] <ehir1> andre_: ohh i see... ha. ha. ha? o_O
[11:40] <n00bicus> I have a problem myself... I fixed a corrupt Windows XP filesystem using checkdisk, fixed the whole C: partition... anyway, it reset my MBR and I have no way of accessing Linux
[11:40] <n00bicus> What should I do?
[11:40] <HymnToLife> !grub | n00bicus
[11:40] <ubotu> n00bicus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:40] <JoshJ> meh, vmware won't work properly :\
[11:40] <JoshJ> keeps asking me for windows xp stuff :(
[11:40] <savvas> my ubuntu desktop is gone,as in background is not showing and no files/folders are visible and i can't right-click, even after killing nautilus and after restarting. i tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, but nothing. can someone tell me how to make my desktop work again? (6.10 edgy)
[11:40] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: thank you. tell me how do i install wine and what will the size be that i would need to download
[11:40] <n2diy> HymnToLife: Ok, I'll give it a try.
[11:41] <n00bicus> Thanks, HymnToLife! :-)
[11:41] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: "sudo aptitude install wine" will install it, you'll have to look up the package size
[11:41] <TheVault> I'v got this question that really keeps bothering me. Which is better? Ubuntu 6.10 or Kubuntu 6.10?
[11:41] <mpetersen> ok, how about using the netboot stuff off the alternate install CD?
[11:42] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: thanx
[11:42] <TheVault> I know it goes on preference but this question keeps killing me
[11:42] <kazuka> TheVault: get UBUNTU
[11:42] <mpetersen> TheVault: better is all relative when it comes to gnome vs. kde
[11:42] <kazuka> TheVault: if you prefer gnome
[11:42] <kelsin> savvas: run gconf-editor and check out apps/nautilus/preferences and make sure the "show_desktop" key is checked
[11:42] <ehir1> jeez; can't believe airports arent supported out of the box
[11:42] <ehir1> they're really coon
[11:42] <kazuka> TheVault: get kubuntu if you prefer kde
[11:42] <ehir1> coon
[11:42] <ehir1> common
[11:43] <kelsin> TheVault: if you honestly don't know about gnome and kde, just look up screenshots for each on google images and pick based on that
[11:43] <TheVault> Yeah guys, I know the difference between KDE & GNOME
[11:43] <Lloydie-t> Hi, I am having a little trouble with TFTP. I have installed it, but I am having a problem trying to upload files. I get an error 'file not found' can you help?
[11:43] <evilrob> so the installer on the liveCD....  doesn't let you do LVM?  (or did I miss something obvious)
[11:43] <kelsin> TheVault: well that's the only difference then
[11:43] <GionnyBoss> can anybody help me with Wireless LAN on my laptop, please?
[11:43] <wolfwalker> !wireless
[11:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:43] <wolfwalker> :)
[11:43] <mpetersen> Lloydie-t: You want to upload to a tftp server?
[11:43] <TheVault> So pretty much they are the same except one uses GNOME while the other uses KDE desktop environments?
[11:43] <Lloydie-t> Yes
[11:43] <kazuka> yes
[11:43] <Jowi> TheVault, install Ubuntu. after installation is finished install kubuntu-desktop. now you can chose which one you want to use or not to use.
[11:44] <kazuka> But get Ubuntu
[11:44] <GionnyBoss> thanks wolfwalker, I go to see that page now!
[11:44] <kelsin> TheVault: yes
[11:44] <wolfwalker> |TheVault:| Not really. Ubuntu is more stable. Kubuntu feels like a hastily-done rewrite
[11:44] <kazuka> i prefer gnome much better the kde
[11:44] <Jowi> TheDebugger, you can have both in the same system
[11:44] <kazuka> so i influence now
[11:44] <kazuka> get ubuntu
[11:44] <thunder_storm> hi everywhere
[11:44] <kazuka> kde is bloated
[11:44] <mpetersen> Lloydie-t: File not found in that case sounds like the file isn't on your local machine.
[11:44] <wolfwalker> |TheVault:| Mind you, this is just my opinion
[11:44] <TheVault> What do you mean install Kubuntu-Desktop after I install Ubuntu?
[11:44] <thunder_storm> can somebody helps me?
[11:44] <n00bicus> yeah, so which instructions do I want to use? I want to use NTLDR, the Windows bootloater, if possible
[11:44] <AlexC>  can the burning cd-rws at high speed cause my computer to be evil and not load them?
[11:44] <kazuka> The vault get ubuntu and install konqueror
[11:44] <Nuked> kazuka: some argue that gnome hides features
[11:44] <mwalsh> anyone want to help  a poor boy
[11:44] <evilrob> no thoughts on LVM and the installer on the liveCD?
[11:44] <Math^> kelsin, i did something terible wrong... I removed the whole directory instead of the ~ files in it... is there some way to get it back?
[11:44] <thunder_storm> i'm searchi'n for these images, as sample: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/images/avatars/178536411243b06ab1c16af.jpg
[11:44] <AlexC> it gets to menu
[11:45] <TheVault> oh ok
[11:45] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to setup a PAN between my computer and my bluetooth enabled phone. I have them connected, but I'm wondering how I can determine the phone's IP address in reference to the computer?
[11:45] <thunder_storm> somewhere knows it?
[11:45] <AlexC> then the kernal panics
[11:45] <wolfwalker> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:45] <kkerwin> If not, could someone point me to a bluez support channel. #bluez seems to be quiet, and I'm not sure if it's the right channel.
[11:45] <AlexC> and i checksummed them
[11:45] <wolfwalker> MAN I like that bot!
[11:45] <kelsin> Math^: unless you have it backed up, I don't think so, you'd have to ask someone that knows more about file system restore
[11:46] <manience_> Hi, why does firefox block the sound device ?
[11:46] <Jowi> TheVault, your Ubuntu can run which ever window manager or desktop environment you chose. you are not even limited to KDE or Gnome. You can chose XFCE or a window manager as IceWM or WindowMaker. install it, try it, if you don't like it - remove it. it is that simple.
[11:46] <JoshJ> !grub
[11:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:46] <kkerwin> wolfwalker: It's a bit more involved of a question than that.
[11:46] <mpetersen> !PXE
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PXE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: i was wanting to buy a canon ip4300.but im wondering about the drivers. there aren't any on canon's website.any sugestions
[11:46] <TheVault> Does anyone have any good tutorials on how I can dual boot with Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron E1405 Laptop, I was reading that installing Linux or dual booting on a dell is different from other machines. But here on my desktop, I dual boot with Xp & Ubuntu no problem
[11:46] <Jowi> !dualboot | TheVault
[11:46] <ubotu> TheVault: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:46] <Lloydie-t> I have tried two different apps to upload file and both have failed. I am trying to upload from winxp
[11:46] <savvas> kelsin: that option is checked
[11:46] <kelsin> Cyrus25801: I would try searching "canon ip3400 linux drivers" on google
[11:46] <kkerwin> wolfwalker: But none the less, thank you for pointing it out.
[11:47] <savvas> kelsin: that option = the desktop thingy
[11:47] <mpetersen> TheVault: I really don't see what it would matter.  I dual boot my Dell laptop without doing anything special.
[11:47] <Cyrus25801> kelsin: thanx should of thought of that
[11:47] <TheVault> Ahhh so then those articles are junk then
[11:47] <kelsin> savvas: do you have a folder "Desktop" in your home folder? "cd ~/Desktop" then "ls" does it have all of the stuff you did have on the desktop?
[11:47] <AlexC>  can the burning cd-rws at high speed cause my computer to be evil and not load them?
[11:47] <n00bicus> I want to keep Windows bootloader, in !grub, it makes it seem as if the Windows bootloader would be overwritten, even if the 1st instructions are followed
[11:47] <AlexC> it gets to menu
[11:47] <AlexC> then the kernal panics
[11:47] <kelsin> savvas: that's where the desktop is stored in nautilus
[11:47] <AlexC> and i checksummed them
[11:47] <mpetersen> TheVault: Possibly on old dell systems?
[11:47] <kkerwin> wolfwalker: The question has to do with manipulating the kernel routing stack, not just setting up bluetooth.
[11:48] <kazuka> TheVault: lucky you i have the same laptop and i can dual boot XP and ubuntu easily but i have to get XP installed in the first partition.. very first one and then install ubuntu on another partition.
[11:48] <n00bicus> when I tried setting the linux partitiion active from KNOPPIX and restarted, it auto-set windows as active
[11:48] <n00bicus>  huh?
[11:48] <TheVault> Yeah, I know how to partition & that sorta stuff
[11:48] <Jowi> Cyrus25801, www.linuxprinting.org is a great site. including printer recommendations and drivers.
[11:48] <Drel3> i need help
[11:48] <TheVault> how much memory should I put towards Ubuntu when I dual boot with it?
[11:49] <mpetersen> Can anyone tell me about using the netboot stuff from the alternate CD?  It doen't include a mini.iso, so I'm a little at a loss as to how it would work...
[11:49] <AlexC> Drel3: don't we all
[11:49] <Cyrus25801> Jowi: thanx dude
[11:49] <kkerwin> !ask | Drel3
[11:49] <ubotu> Drel3: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <Drel3> i must ask
[11:49] <savvas> kelsin: ok thanks, i unchecked it, closed the app, killed nautilus and restarted it, then i checked it again and killed nautilus once more, now it works
[11:49] <Drel3> i have AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ and just installed kernel 2.6.17-10-386 linux-686-smp, but when type cat /proc/cpuinfo i see just one processor!what i doing wrong!!my system just use one cpu, please help
[11:49] <n00bicus> !grub
[11:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:49] <oFF-beAt> gnome something got updated n now my gnome-task bar doesn't work
[11:49] <kelsin> savvas: hey nice! :)
[11:49] <kazuka> TheVault: right now i have 512mb
[11:50] <TheVault> not ram, I mean disk space
[11:50] <TheVault> lol guess I should have said that
[11:50] <AlexC> does everyone hate me?
[11:50] <TheVault> lol why would people hate you?
[11:50] <mpetersen> Drel3: What aren't you using 686 instead of amd64?
[11:50] <n00bicus> I don't. I don't even know who you are!
[11:50] <kazuka> you mean
[11:50] <kazuka> you mean swap?
[11:50] <mpetersen> er why are you using 686
[11:50] <kkerwin> Drel3: I'm not sure, but I didn't think that x86 worked with Athlon XP processors.
[11:50] <TheVault> whats swap?
[11:51] <kkerwin> Drel3: That might be your problem ...
[11:51] <kazuka> cum swap
[11:51] <kazuka> lol
[11:51] <TheVault> rofl
[11:51] <kkerwin> Drel3: Look for ia64
[11:51] <mpetersen> NO! not ia64, amd64
[11:51] <kazuka> swap file thats the partition that handles your memory filesystem
[11:51] <kkerwin> mpetersen: Thanks.
[11:51] <AlexC> nobody even sees my questions
[11:51] <Drel3> please tell me where
[11:51] <TheVault> when I run the live CD, I am just going to use the Linux partioner software and use that to setup dual booting
[11:51] <kkerwin> mpetersen: I'm an Intel user who doesn't know any better. :-)
[11:51] <Drel3> i am new to linux
[11:51] <mpetersen> but it will probably freak out because he obviously has a 686 architecture installed.
[11:51] <kazuka> you can't install in a swap partition.
[11:51] <AlexC> this place is crazy
[11:51] <TheVault> AlexC, I see your questions
[11:51] <Cyrus25801> I'm busy with a survey with regards to gender equality. Hence the following question: how may females are there on the ubuntu chat room
[11:52] <TheVault> but I am no Linux guru so I don't really answer questions
[11:52] <TheVault> I'm just a level above a noobie in linux
[11:52] <kazuka> lol
[11:52] <mpetersen> ia64 is Itanium, it's imcompatible with amd64 and Intels newer 64 bit offerings, often called x86-64 or just amd64 in the ubuntu/debian world.
[11:52] <oFF-beAt> guys, something is wrong with my taskbar.. i can't see the running programs in taskbar anymore
[11:52] <kkerwin> Drel3: One sec.
[11:52] <TheVault> ouch
[11:52] <gnomefreak> oFF-beAt: edgy?
[11:52] <mpetersen> Drel3: Did you just install this system?
[11:52] <oFF-beAt> yeah edgy
[11:52] <TheVault> Speaking of Taskbar, I just made my Xp view into Classic look
[11:53] <Drel3> before 50days
[11:53] <Drel3> sorry 5 days
[11:53] <kkerwin> Drel3: Download and burn this CD. Then reinstall with it: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:53] <mpetersen> yeah... what kkerwin said...
[11:53] <mpetersen> or use 6.10 if you'd like
[11:53] <gnomefreak> oFF-beAt: what doesnt work about it?
[11:53] <TheVault> Yeah, I am downloading 6.10 now
[11:53] <Solarion>  avahi-daemon[12722] : recvmsg(): Resource temporarily unavailable
[11:53] <TheVault> 86% done
[11:53] <Solarion> any idea what this is about?
[11:53] <kkerwin> Drel3: Even better ...
[11:54] <Solarion> U see ut ib a few bixes,
[11:54] <oFF-beAt> gnomefreak, it's just a blank space.. i dun see any running programs there no more
[11:54] <Solarion> I see it on a few boxes, if I have my right hand one key to the right.
[11:54] <kkerwin> Drel3: http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:54] <oFF-beAt> though workspace switcher still works
[11:54] <gnomefreak> oFF-beAt: did you restart panels since update?
[11:54] <kkerwin> Drel3: That's the most up to date Ubuntu for your hardware. Enjoy! ;-)
[11:54] <phoenix24> hello!!
[11:54] <oFF-beAt> oFF-beAt, yeah i restarted too
[11:54] <mpetersen> So I take it no one knows much about the netboot options with  the alternate install?
[11:54] <kelsin> oFF-beAt: you can right click and add another "window list" applet also
[11:54] <Drel3> thx
[11:54] <oFF-beAt> gnomefreak, yeah i restarted
[11:54] <phoenix24> my gtk-app crashes.. stating  ".so " (shared library) not found
[11:54] <kkerwin> Drel3: Np
[11:55] <gnomefreak> oFF-beAt: do you know what app was upgraded?
[11:55] <scorp2025> Hi, is there any possibility to deactivate randomized stack within edgy?
[11:55] <TheVault> sweet, I jus found the Ubuntu 7.04 Downloads
[11:55] <oFF-beAt> can do that!
[11:55] <Zuph> Is there any way to make AmaroK global hotkeys work even if it doesn't have focus?
[11:56] <oFF-beAt> ah yes thanx
[11:56] <oFF-beAt> that solves it
[11:56] <TheVault> does Ubuntu come with Expose like in Mac OS X?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> TheVault: no
[11:56] <oFF-beAt> gnomefreak, unfortunately.. no dun remember...
[11:56] <mpetersen> ok, I guess I'll bbl to ask again, or maybe I'll get it going.  I found some webstuff that might help now.  Why RAID has to be in the alternate install only, I don't know...
[11:56] <TheVault> how come I see on Youtube people doing those cool effects
[11:56] <JosefK> !beryl | TheVault
[11:56] <ubotu> TheVault: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:56] <kelsin> TheVault: no, you can get that type of feature if you use the Compiz of Beryl windows manager with a GL enabled X-Server, you can find plenty of how-tos and wiki articles about it
[11:56] <Zaggynl>  Anyone chance the latest ALSA is coming to Dapper?
[11:56] <Zaggynl> *Any
[11:57] <TheVault> Ahhh, Thanks
[11:57] <Solarion> anybody?
[11:57] <Jowi> TheVault, don't use 7.04 it if you're new to linux. it is alpha atm. 6.10 (or 6.06) is what you're looking for
[11:57] <MrKeuner> I am using 6.10. My home LAN's WAP asks for a WEP password, and that password is saved in gnome keyring. Whenever I turn on my laptop and log in to my account I am asked for the password to unlock the keyring. But the same dialog appears *twice* overlapping. What is the problem?
[11:57] <Solarion> how stable has 7.04 been?
[11:57] <TheVault> Jowi - Don't worry, I'm well informed on versions are stable and things...but thanks for looking out
[11:57] <Lloydie-t> Is there a way I can set the tftp server to accept uploaded files which do not exist?
[11:57] <dabju> Hi there! amarok hangs while building the library. What do I do?
[11:58] <Jowi> TheVault, very well :)
[11:58] <Nipoc> dabju: are you using synaptic
[11:58] <TheVault> Thanks for looking out though :D
[11:58] <JosefK> Solarion, reasonably, but updates have a tendency to break things
[11:58] <dabju> to install? yeah
[11:58] <TheVault> I'm one of those curious noobies anyway :P
[11:58] <oFF-beAt> is there anyway to check n fix errors on ntfs drive in linux?
[11:58] <dabju> Nipoc, to install? yeah
[11:58] <TheVault> do you have to pay for Beryl?
[11:59] <JosefK> TheVault, of course not :)
[11:59] <DARKGuy> TheVault: Linux is all free (L)
[11:59] <MrKeuner> TheVault: :)
[11:59] <scorp2025> Ok, found it for myself. Just do the following to deactivate randomized stack: echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space (Do this only, if you know WHAT YOU'RE DOING!)
[11:59] <Jowi> TheVault, depends. you need good hardware. that cost money ;)
[11:59] <TheVault> Hmmm, ran across an article that said you had to pay $50.00 for it
[11:59] <TheVault> I read alotta information from Digg
[11:59] <kkerwin> !ntfs-3g | oFF-beAt
[11:59] <ubotu> oFF-beAt: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> TheVault: please move this to either #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <smartman> hi guys
[11:59] <Zaggynl> 'lo
[12:00] <MrKeuner> TheVault: could you remember the link?
[12:00] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: ntfs-3g has some tools. Google for their web page.
[12:00] <TheVault> MrKeuner - Nah sorry
[12:00] <smartman> i want to ask why inter net in ubuntu is so slloly than windows
[12:00] <TheVault> gnomefreak - am I violating any rules on why I have to go to those channels?
[12:00] <oFF-beAt> kkerwin, i'm using ntfs-3g.. pretty sweet until my friend took my usb btfs driver plugged it in his pc.. then removed it unsafely.. n now errors on it an won't mount it
[12:00] <gnomefreak> TheVault: you are offtopic for this channel
[12:00] <oFF-beAt> *ntfs
[12:01] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: I hear ya. One sec ...
[12:01] <oFF-beAt> *drive
[12:01] <TheVault> Oh im sorry, I'm just asking questions & getting responses...and so far I have gotten all my questions answered
[12:01] <TheVault> sorry if I am getting off topic