=== highvoltage ... needs... sleep [12:22] what are you still doing up? === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d42943.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=hugo@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [12:38] nn guys === adamix [n=paolo@adsl-ull-156-223.47-151.net24.it] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp142-104.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.39.244] has joined #edubuntu === adamix [n=paolo@adsl-ull-156-223.47-151.net24.it] has left #edubuntu [] === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@71.233.244.55] has joined #edubuntu === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === freet15__ is now known as freet15 === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] Evening all [04:22] hi sbalneav [04:23] Hello ajmitch === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.39.244] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === orByte [n=x@60.50.170.13] has joined #edubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.3] has joined #edubuntu === superset1 [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-118-213.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-241-40-217.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:07] morning [08:07] morning RichEd [08:08] hi corey ... how's things ? [08:08] not bad === orByte [n=x@60.50.170.13] has left #edubuntu [] === froud [n=sean@dsl-146-28-84.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-114-125.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-99651bf87a73fa03] has joined #edubuntu [09:45] Hey RichEd [09:46] hey cbx33 [09:46] big up to cbx33 for his great work and enthusiam at BETT ! [09:49] hehe [09:49] thanks RichEd [09:49] howz it going [09:52] cbx33, I never check the fridge :) did something go up? [09:54] cbx33: good thanks ... feel alive again ... was badly badly sick on mon === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [10:07] willvdl: not yet [10:07] highvoltage: was sorting something out [10:10] coooool [10:10] how are you willvdl [10:10] busy busy busy :) [10:11] but good. how's LTCM coming? got screenshots? [10:11] cbx33: please ping me about that again later today btw [10:11] highvoltage: will do [10:11] willvdl: it's just TCM now [10:11] and yes [10:12] there are screenshots [10:12] links links! [10:12] http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/ [10:14] looking good [10:14] yup [10:21] is ntfs write support stable yet? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=Julius@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:33] which are the edubuntu lists on ubuntuforums.org? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [10:42] ogra: I had herd 2 fail on me yesterday whilst building the ltsp root [10:42] something about a malformed URI line 2 [10:42] in the the apt sources file [10:43] cbx33, that was fixed in the last iso we released [10:43] ok cool [10:44] thought I'd mention it to you [10:44] what about dhcp auto generation [10:44] did you install with network connection and did it pull upgrades or something ? [10:44] (i reverted the quick fix so in that case it would break) [10:44] i installed with network [10:44] and built the root afterwards [10:45] however I had big problems with the dhcp [10:45] (ltsp-build-client is run with "--sercurity-mirror none", the quick fix was to ignore that line, the real fix was to remove it completely) [10:45] when it asks in the install which is primary network device [10:45] so if you have a half/half system due to network upgrades, it will break ... [10:46] is that meant to be the ltsp side card [10:46] or the internet side [10:46] internet indeed [10:46] ok good [10:47] i'll talk to cjwatson to change the wording [10:47] ok [10:47] thanks [10:47] now [10:47] what about my dhcp problems [10:47] someone else last night had the same issue [10:47] the dhcp server didn't start automatically, because of a failure [10:47] and the failure was that it was trying to setup the dhcp server on eth0 [10:47] not eth1 [10:49] the interfaces line in the /etc/defaults/dhcp(something) had no interfaces listed [10:49] brb [10:54] ogra: is that a known issue? === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:54] it also didn't activate or setup eth1 with an ip address [10:56] cbx33, thats how it's supposed to be, never ever touch /etc/defaults/dhcp [10:56] else you break dhcpd's autodetection and are doomed to always use that setup ... [10:56] sbalneav told me to [10:56] well it wasn't doing the auto detection [10:57] it also interferred with my main network.....I have no idea how === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [10:57] as I have a dhcp server running there also [10:57] well....it whinged about eth0 to begin with, and said it didn't have a subnet for it [10:58] it does the autodetection if a proper /etc/ltsp/dhcpd conf exists [10:58] but it wasn't supposed to be setup on eth 0 [10:58] so assuming it just moves onto the next interface [10:58] ?? [10:58] right thats a warning from the autodetection [10:58] right [10:58] but eth1 was never setup [10:58] in the /etc/network/interfaces [10:58] it walks all interfaces and checks for a valid config [10:58] is that the installers problem? [10:58] not really ... [10:59] did the dhcp config work right for the outbound interfaces ? [10:59] -s [10:59] yes [10:59] once I enabled the iface [10:59] in the /etc/network/interfaces [11:00] if the netcfg config worked right and you selected the right outbound interface then its a bug in ltsp-client-builder if it didnt add the second one to /etc/network/interfaces [11:01] if you selected the wrong interface for outbund ltsp-client-builder is supposed to do nothing and show you a warning that you have to do it manually [11:01] then it's a bug [11:01] ;) [11:01] does the client builder setup the iface then? [11:01] if you didnt get that wanring *and* didnt get a second iface configured even though you selected the right one in the first interface selection, tats a bug [11:02] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-cd/+bug/81250 :) [11:03] heheh [11:03] ogra: is ltsp manager going to be ready for fesity? [11:06] not sure yet, python-ltsp will surely be ready ... not sure if i make it to get the gui part done [11:06] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/81251 :) [11:07] ok [11:07] we should look what parts of TCM we can merge into python-ltsp [11:07] (in feisty+1) [11:07] yes defintely [11:07] i'd like it to be the central backend for everything ltsp related [11:07] good idea [11:08] i only foung out the other day you were doing it [11:08] its part of the spec :) [11:08] even though that doesnt talk about a python module :) [11:08] haha [11:10] ogra: well, as soon as you know about the ltsp manager I'd appreciate a nod, as it affects the edubuntu chapter quite significantly ;) [11:11] we still update the nfs root by chrooting in right? [11:11] yep [11:11] and ltsp-update-kernels [11:11] for updating the kernel [11:11] even though python-ltsp shuld get a function for the most common stuff as well ... [11:11] do we yet support multiarch? [11:11] only amd64/i386 ... [11:11] I'll still tell them the old way for now [11:12] and what how do you do 64 [11:12] in either direction ... [11:12] buid the nfs root on another mchine and coyp acrss? [11:12] ?? [11:12] oh [11:12] you mean powerpc ? [11:12] you mean 64 boots from the 32 bit one? [11:13] there is an unfinished howto ... but since we drop ppc officially with feisty anyway, i'm not sure we need to cover it [11:13] yikes do we... [11:13] ok [11:13] that was the decision, yes [11:13] so for 64 we basically do nothing right? [11:13] (i dont agree with it) [11:13] as it boots from the 32 [11:13] right [11:13] ok cool [11:14] I'm putting in about coexisting with another dhcp server and multi booting [11:14] you can have an amd64 chroot on a i386 server as well ... but i think thats a corner case ... [11:14] ogra: I'll leave that one [11:14] please send it to me if you are done [11:14] sbalneav is going to get me some trouble shooting tips [11:14] the dhcp stuff is pretty critical and needs to be perfectly right [11:15] I was hoping you'd take a look through it and suggest changes ;) [11:15] I know it is [11:15] well, he gave you a wrong hint already [11:15] I know [11:15] haha [11:15] thats why i'm worried [11:15] it was basically just to get it working [11:15] I don;t think he was saying to do it as a defaco solution [11:15] though he didn't say it would break autodetection [11:15] right, but if you document it we'll end up without autodetection for many users :) [11:15] oh no [11:15] I won;t do that [11:16] i just needed a working thin client [11:16] right, thats why i'd like to see it before publishing ;) [11:16] yes I WANT you to [11:16] no no...rephrase... you MUST [11:16] oh and can my reboot button go on the ldm login page...i sent yo ua diff a while back [11:16] pretty please ;) [11:18] I'm trying to talk about feisty and dapper....as the book should be based on feisty but many peple will be running LTS === ajmitch wonders what else is needed next for authtool apart from improved GUI, PAM handling & standard debconf cruft [11:18] cbx33, sure [11:20] do you want to see the chapter as it stands soon.... [11:20] or wait till like another week [11:21] first draft is in by 8th Feb [11:21] same date as FF === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-734f2ea852e7eec4] has joined #edubuntu [11:26] i'm to busy with other stuff now ... lets go over it if we discuss TCM [11:27] yeh sure [11:27] and I'm hoping you mean [11:27] s/if/when [11:27] i mean sunday :P [11:28] good [11:28] :p === rpereirab [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [11:37] ping willvdl [11:37] pong [11:37] did canonical contact the t-shirt guys yet? [11:37] ajmitch, documentation? :) [11:37] pfft [11:37] who needs it? [11:38] :) [11:38] cbx33, I hope so. will check [11:38] yeah, I'll try & write some, it's been on my todo list === ajmitch is off to sleep now [11:38] ajmitch, ag if the GUI's good enough, who needs help? === jinty [n=jinty@238.Red-83-49-48.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:40] ogra, where is the best LTSP support channel? #ltsp or here? [11:41] #ltsp for generic ltsp questions ... here for ubuntu ... [11:41] i think its really up to the user ... i wont force edubuntu users from #ltsp to here if they ask there (or the other way around) [11:42] the two main developers (sbalneav and me) are in both channels anyway === ogra goes for a smoke [11:42] cool. just updating list of irc channels for edubuntu users [11:43] ogra: another one :p [11:51] cbx33, being processed [12:04] cbx33, btw, is your key signed finally ? if so, just upload TCM ;) [12:19] yes it's signed [12:19] ogra: it's b0rked in it's current state ;) [12:19] as in lots of things not setup [12:19] like al the ssh key stuff [12:19] that's where you come int [12:19] cbx33, yes, i dont care [12:20] feisty is in active development, things are supposed to break ! [12:20] ok [12:20] I'll get a pacakge together [12:20] great [12:20] well i need two now don;t i [12:20] shuld I do the split now? [12:20] yep [12:20] brb === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] ogra: I just did some bandwidth testing with the tuxlab diskless fat client implementation, and it only sends/receives a total of 110.16MB during boot [12:27] nice [12:27] ogra: I'd imagine thin clients would read much less, so it's probably not worth putting the entire chroot into ramdisk for performance increases [12:27] ogra: are the details of how to upload to universe? [12:27] I've never done it before [12:28] ogra: I still think that caching the files to RAM more aggresively would be more optimal, it's just a question of figuring out how :) [12:28] cbx33, SCP is in main ... upload it anywhere and i can forward it ... [12:28] oh i see [12:28] so your name sticks on the package [12:28] i thought you mean upload it to universe [12:28] thats the important part ... [12:28] ahh i see [12:29] if you ever go for main upload rights you will need sponsored packages in main [12:29] ah i see [12:31] the new code will have to be secutiry audited no? [12:32] nope ... onyl for main inclusion ... SCP is in main already [12:32] crikey....but the code has changed dramatically [12:32] unless you actually *want* a security audit [12:33] I'm happy with an ogra security audit [12:33] obvioauly I've done my best...but remember I am still a fairly new coder [12:33] right, i'll look over it ... if i struggle i'll forward to pitti [12:33] ok [12:34] lots of praise for you in #ltsp btw :) [12:34] sounds ggggrrrrreat [12:34] i posted the screenshots :) [12:34] really? cool [12:34] let's just hope it all works [12:35] from 28th-1st I'll be addressing any TCM related issues from our discussion on sunday [12:35] and after that it'll be book book book [12:36] oki [12:40] what form will changes after FF take? [12:40] just bug fixes? [12:44] highvoltage, is it possible to make the http url icon for our wiki pages smaller? It seems rather large and messes up my line spacing :) [12:45] willvdl: link? === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu [12:45] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/WillVanDerLeij/ScratchPad [12:45] for example. the globe icon thingy [12:46] versus the globe in https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HelpOnLinking [12:47] willvdl: ah, now I understand [12:47] or is it my browser settings? :) [12:54] Edubuntu meeting in 6 minutes? [12:55] cbx33, yes, bugfixes ... === pips1 [n=philipp@195.216.81.229] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 looks around === SiCk [i=wakeupha@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust190.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:00] hey pips1 [01:00] === Edubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now === [01:00] ah [01:03] ogra: there is an article on the thinstation project in the latest c't magazine, did you see it? [01:04] I'm talking about http://www.thinstation.org/ === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #edubuntu === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #edubuntu [] === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === oxygen [n=oxygen@unaffiliated/oxygen] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === oxygen [n=oxygen@unaffiliated/oxygen] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:03] hi === kalle_ [n=kalle@keymaster.ludvika.se] has joined #edubuntu [02:07] willvdl: I really feel it would help to get in touch with RichEd, since both of us have talked a great deal about the whole *ubuntu "web galaxy" and how edubuntu and education fits into the big picture... also, I think RichEd has talked to Matt about it at 'All Hands', so I don't want start talking to Matt separately now, since I feel that RichEd show have the overview. [02:08] s/show/should [02:08] which matt are you referring to ? [02:08] Matt Nuzum [02:08] ah [02:08] (the other one is sitting next to me atm ... thought you meant mdz) [02:09] ah, no :) [02:09] You go on implementing ubuntu and edubuntu stuff, I'm just talking about web stuff :) [02:10] yep, grokked that now === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl_ [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl_ [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === elkardi [i=WinNT@60.48.69.68] has left #edubuntu [] [02:46] eek. my connection did a serious Swan Lake on me === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] you keep up your (good) humour though, eh? [02:53] cbx33: is CTM still very dependent on using SSH sessions, or can some of the functionality work on XDMCP too? [02:53] highvoltage, we wont support xdmcp [02:53] ever ... [02:54] (would be silly now that we will get unencrypted ssh connections in feisty if we want to) [02:55] ssh with encryption=none is exactly as fast as xdmcp ... [02:55] ogra: ooh, that's quite cool [02:55] cjwatson still has to apply the patch, but he promised sbalneav that we'll have it in feisty ... [02:55] ogra: the encryption slowness was/is a problem for many people [02:55] kewl :) [02:55] we wont encourage its use and it wont be easy to set up ... [02:56] but we wont have to maintain two different ltsp variants [02:56] or even ltspfs variants [02:57] ogra: do you perhaps know hoe unencrypted ssh compares to xdmcp bandwidth-wise? [02:57] its identical [02:58] sbalneav knows more about it ... i never used it === highvoltage taps fingers together like Mr Burns *excellent* [02:58] did older ltsp use xdmcp? [02:59] willvdl: the older ltsp.org, yes. edubuntu has always used ssh [02:59] gotcha [03:00] so when people refer to diskless client networking (sic) using ssh, they are referring to something very similar to ltsp? === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] willvdl: XDMCP and ssh -X are two different methods of running graphical applications from a remote server [03:02] willvdl: LTSP has used XDMCP for years, it is quite easy to implement [03:02] willvdl: ubuntu uses SSH since it is more secure, all data sent over the network is encrypted [03:03] willvdl: the downside is that encrypting 20 sessions on a ltsp server gives it a hard performance knock [03:03] willvdl: which is why we stuck with XDMCP in tuXlabs [03:03] yip. [03:03] btw, I've heard of hard drives coming out with HW layer encryption [03:04] willvdl: but ogra says that when the option is there to disable encryption, ssh -X will then be just as fast as XDMCP [03:04] willvdl: although you'd loose the security, of course [03:04] which is fine in a classroom I guess [03:04] willvdl: I'm not *too* bothered about the GUI being sent in clear in a lab, since you can just peek over someones shoulder if you *really* want to see what's going on on their screen [03:05] will edubuntu work on a wireless network? [03:06] not sure why I don;'t know that [03:06] not currently, but it will probably be possible at some point [03:07] hmmmm [03:07] wireless brings lots of problems === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] yeah. just thinking of negotiating the network booting has my head in a twist [03:07] for example, how would the wireless card know where to boot from, anyone would be able to do an attack by just bringing in another access point and letting the machines boot from that [03:08] exactly. [03:08] so you'll need good firmware on the wireless card where you can set an SSID and a WPA key [03:08] either that, or you'll need to emulate a PCI ethernet card and run PXE/etherboot from that, and that card can drive the wireless card [03:09] was just about to type that [03:09] seems I'm not that far behind after all :) [03:09] or... [03:10] you boot the LTSP chroot from a local flash disk [03:10] and run the session over wlan [03:10] wireless would require kernel and initramfs on a CD or something [03:10] ogra: snap :) [03:10] additionally its not easy to get the wpa/wep and the essid stuff in [03:11] so then you just hack the flash disk to boot off your own access point... [03:11] you would need to patch the kernel to accept them as bootoptions [03:11] willvdl: you could do that, kind of, but people would be able to figure out from the config what the MAC address of the AP is, as well as the WEP key, and they could spoof that info === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] willvdl: well, and besides the difficult security, wireless doesn't currently provide much in the sense of bandwidth [03:12] Morning all [03:12] hmmm [03:12] hi sbalneav [03:13] Hey highvoltage! [03:13] sbalneav: have you played with ssh -x without encryption yet? [03:13] it's intersting: technically it is feasable, but conceptually it is less so [03:13] normally things are the other way round :) [03:13] highvoltage: That's what we're running around here now. I patched ssh to allow the -c none option. === ogra hopes sbalneav did not play with ssh -x ... [03:13] rather -X ;) [03:13] indeed :) [03:14] -X ? [03:14] Ah, no, that works fine. [03:14] sbalneav: does it work as nicely as XDMCP? [03:15] It's still slower than xdmcp, but it's nowhere near as bad. It certainly is usable on my workstations. [03:15] I think the slowness now is merely the added constant context switching between X sending a packet, and then ssh having to process it, and forward. [03:16] Installed edubuntu herd2 last night. Got bitten by the i82365/pcmcia hang bug [03:16] that took me a while to work around. [03:16] yeah, seems many people get that [03:16] until I found the boot param hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false [03:16] then everything went fine. [03:17] ltsp chroot failed to build, but I knew that was coming. [03:17] left it updating all the patches when I went to sleep. [03:17] hmm, it shouldnt ... [03:17] i fixed the wrong mirror line ... [03:17] debian introduced that [03:17] Ah, but I downloaded the iso. [03:18] yeah and i fixed it on the iso ... [03:18] I don't have the rsync thing set up yet. Have you updated that script of yours? [03:18] only with a quick fix though ... which i reverted a day after the iso was released [03:18] weird that you still got that error ... [03:19] cbx33 reported it as well .. [03:22] Oh, look, there's an update for libsoup [03:22] Mmmmm, soup [03:22] im in here ogra :D [03:23] good ... [03:23] I'm not sure i completely understand how to jump this into kiosk mode [03:23] even after reading this [03:23] do the following: [03:23] export ROOT=/opt/ltsp/i386 [03:24] sudo echo 'copy_dirs="$copy_dirs /home"' >> $ROOT/etc/defaults/ltsp-client-setup [03:24] sudo echo 'rw_dirs="$rw_dirs /var/lib/gdm"' >> $ROOT/etc/defaults/ltsp-client-setup [03:24] err, ah, crap ... [03:24] better: [03:24] sudo -i [03:24] echo 'copy_dirs="$copy_dirs /home"' >> $ROOT/etc/defaults/ltsp-client-setup [03:24] echo 'rw_dirs="$rw_dirs /var/lib/gdm"' >> $ROOT/etc/defaults/ltsp-client-setup [03:24] LC_ALL=C chroot $ROOT adduser --disabled-password --gecos ,,, kiosk [03:25] echo "#!/bin/sh" > $ROOT/home/kiosk/.xsession [03:25] echo "/usr/bin/firefox --fullscreen" >> $ROOT/home/kiosk/.xsession [03:25] cp $ROOT/etc/gdm/gdm.conf $ROOT/etc/gdm/gdm-kiosk.conf [03:25] etc etc ... just copy n paste the lines from the wikipage [03:25] where do you pull this from in your head, you're a mad man. haha [03:25] i dont [03:26] i have a browser to copy/paste it :P [03:26] ahh haha [03:26] i pulled it from my head when i wrote the wikipage though :) [03:27] this is all in the terminal yes? [03:28] cause im seeing none of what you wrote there in the wiki.. or am i getting confused for no reason here [03:29] ah, wait i didnt see err ah crap better: [03:29] haha hold on === juliux [n=Julius@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [03:30] still get no such file or directory [03:30] anyone perhaps know how I can pass NFS options when / is mounted on the thin client? [03:31] hi [03:31] for example, I'd like to do proto=tcp, for example [03:31] hi jules [03:31] hi highvoltage [03:32] highvoltage, today we get the first snow:( [03:32] juliux: wow, isn't it a bit late? [03:33] highvoltage, yes it is very late [03:33] normaly we get the first snow in november [03:33] it's very hot here right now. you are welcome to through some snow over :) [03:34] highvoltage, via ship or airplane? [03:34] ;) [03:34] juliux: just through it very, very far ;) === kalle_ [n=kalle@keymaster.ludvika.se] has joined #edubuntu [03:34] highvoltage, ok [03:40] is ubuntuforums.org an "official" ubuntu channel? [03:41] SiCk, you do all of that on the server [03:41] willvdl, you can call it offical [03:41] willvdl: I don't think it is official. it is community managed [03:41] highvoltage, in pxelinux.cfg/defailt [03:41] *default [03:42] willvdl, but canonical is paying the server [03:42] right [03:42] do you reckon I could list the forums as an Edubuntu Community communication channel? [03:42] willvdl, so it is the most offical forum [03:42] there is some good stuff in there... [03:42]