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| === Jucato waves to Hobbsee! | ||
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| Hobbsee | heya Jucato! | 12:56 |
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| Jucato | I sincerely find this funny... "<dope> someone skype me" | 01:00 |
| ryanakca | Hey Jucato, Hobbsee | 01:16 |
| Jucato | hi ryanakca! | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: what's up? started/working on any new projects? | 01:16 |
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| Jucato | ryanakca: not yet... | 01:17 |
| Jucato | still busy with RL and SL... | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | ah... SL? | 01:18 |
| Jucato | Real Life and Second Life :) | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | oh... | 01:18 |
| === ryanakca thinks he has something like that... | ||
| ryanakca | hmm... nope... I'm just a bot written by some old geezer back in the 90s... :D | 01:19 |
| Jucato | lol | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | hey ryanakca! | 01:34 |
| === ryanakca is pinged :) | ||
| ryanakca | hmm... is firefox hanging a lot on your comp? | 01:35 |
| ryanakca | mine doesn't crash or anything... just hangs there... | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: kill *all* the firefox processes, and try again | 01:36 |
| === ryanakca has run killall firefox-bin too many times to count :) | ||
| === ryanakca kills again :) | ||
| crimsun | ``pkill firefoxbin'' | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes - but has that killed them all? :P | 01:36 |
| crimsun | + - | 01:36 |
| crimsun | (kde-356-test works a charm, btw.) | 01:37 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: dunno... I assumed killall kills them all... | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | sometimes | 01:39 |
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| ryanakca | Hobbsee: same thing :) | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | not with firefox for some reason | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | killall will do it but you have to kill the -bin for some reason | 02:20 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 02:20 |
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| === Hobbsee disagrees that katapult is an advanced too | ||
| === Hobbsee disagrees that katapult is an advanced tool | ||
| Hobbsee | well, it can be...but it's very simple, and very easy to pick up | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | i mean, the OSX stuff (quicksilver, i think) is very well known - and that's not regarded as an advanced feature either | 06:02 |
| === Jucato cheers :) | ||
| LongPointyStick | hey mhb! | 06:05 |
| Dink | I couldnt find a bug for adept_manager and the fetch updates issue where it says to New version hit next then nothing happens... is this a new bug ?? | 06:06 |
| Jucato | for feisty,yes | 06:07 |
| Dink | k, so its a known issue | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | should be under adept bugs... | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | but yeah, that's known | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | there's a bug hiding there somewhere | 06:09 |
| Jucato | maybe it's filed upstream? | 06:09 |
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| Hobbsee | hrm. this is scary | 06:15 |
| Jucato | what is? | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | a friend from school has managed to find my myspace page. | 06:15 |
| Jucato | O.o | 06:15 |
| === Jucato looks for it | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: http://myspace.com/creamier_oak | 06:16 |
| Jucato | heh you're the first search result anyway :) | 06:16 |
| Jucato | ack!! the lights!!! | 06:16 |
| Jucato | how often do you view your myspace homepage? :D | 06:17 |
| === Hobbsee updates the fridge | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe :D | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | read the comments :P | 06:18 |
| Jucato | I can barely look at that page :) | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | Ness | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | Jun 25 2006 11:50P | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | The longer you look at it, the less it bothers you... seriously! | 06:21 |
| Jucato | rofl | 06:22 |
| === Jucato is beginning to think that kdevelop isn't advisable for 1024x768 resolutions... | ||
| Hobbsee | oh? | 06:25 |
| Jucato | needs a lot of space... :) | 06:26 |
| === Jucato tried opening katapult.kdevelop | ||
| Jucato | btw, any reactions from Ubuntu regarding the latest CNR announcement? | 06:26 |
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| Hobbsee | why, what's it say? | 06:27 |
| Jucato | "Support for different Linux distributions will begin in the second quarter of 2007 via a new website, CNR.com. Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE, and Ubuntu will be the first supported, with others planned to follow." | 06:27 |
| Jucato | that was a quote from an article. here's the official website (see our logo) http://www.cnr.com/ | 06:28 |
| Jucato | or Ubuntu's logo rather | 06:28 |
| Jucato | http://www.cnr.com/press.html <-- official press release | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 06:33 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: if they do it right, that should be a huge help | 06:34 |
| Jucato | hope they do it right :) | 06:34 |
| Hobbsee | well, they say they're going to build around the existing systems | 06:34 |
| Jucato | I don't know enough of Linspire's reputation to have any comment on that... all I know is that Kevin Carmony and sabdfl seem to be friends | 06:37 |
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| Hobbsee | ahhh, neat | 06:41 |
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| fdoving | morning. | 07:09 |
| Jucato | morning fdoving! | 07:10 |
| fdoving | hi jucato. | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | hey fdoving! | 07:10 |
| fdoving | hi hobbsee. you got main upload rights? | 07:11 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: nope | 07:11 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: went once, got declined. why/ | 07:11 |
| fdoving | ok. i have a new kopete package.. that fixes bug 81180. | 07:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81180 in kopete "kopete does not send photo from global identity for MSN" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81180 | 07:12 |
| fdoving | anyway, off to work. see you all later. bye. | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: that's been committed to feisty? | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | hrm. it wont have been committed to our testing packages, i'll bet | 07:20 |
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| Xerroz | whats the proper way to setup a development environment for a kde based project? | 08:38 |
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| Riddell | Xerroz: however you like, best place to ask is on #kde-devel with a more specific question | 09:20 |
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| Xerroz | tried that :-\ no one will talk | 09:25 |
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| raphink | is it me or kgpg hasn't been touched at all since 2004? | 11:32 |
| raphink | ah no I'm wrong | 11:36 |
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| Riddell | wouldn't surprise me | 11:39 |
| Riddell | it's unmaintained | 11:39 |
| Riddell | really needs starting from scratch with libgpgme | 11:39 |
| Riddell | and preferably in python :) | 11:42 |
| Riddell | new kdelibs up http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kde-356-feisty/pool-feisty/kdelibs/ | 11:52 |
| Riddell | mhb: about to test if they fix kopete? | 11:52 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee? | 11:52 |
| Riddell | anyone on 3.5.6? | 11:52 |
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| gnomefreak | Riddell: yeah | 11:55 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: able to wget and dpkg --install those .debs ? | 11:55 |
| gnomefreak | sure | 11:55 |
| Riddell | and test if they fix kopete's lack of popups? | 11:55 |
| gnomefreak | k | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: sorry, was at dinner | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: how can we test this? | 12:02 |
| === gnomefreak waiting for libs to finish but i just set up kopete and didnt get any popups except the configure (first time) | ||
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: works. | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: *poke poke* :) | 12:05 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: also works here | 12:08 |
| Riddell | awooga | 12:11 |
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| Riddell | thanks all, I'll compile it for edgy | 12:11 |
| Riddell | in triplicate | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: enjoy :P | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: when will these hit the repos? | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | s/repos/archives | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: speaking of which, can you sponsor an upload for me please? | 12:13 |
| === Hobbsee has *just* remembered that you're a core dev. | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 12:14 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: when the KDE release dude releases it | 12:17 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: sure | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | ah ha :) just got dholbach to do it :) | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | thought it was supposed to be released yesterday | 12:18 |
| Riddell | tech board has never actually approved me for core dev, just that nobody has noticed yet | 12:18 |
| === Hobbsee snorts | ||
| Hobbsee | well, i hope they dont take yoru rights away from you, else where would kubuntu be? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | it was supposed to be, but it got delayed due to this kopete bug | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 12:18 |
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| Jucato | Archlinux seems to have released 3.5.6 without waiting for the official release announcement | 12:20 |
| Riddell | as has pclinuxos | 12:23 |
| Riddell | much to the annoyance of important KDE people | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: that was an upload of speedcrunch, fyi | 12:23 |
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| gnomefreak | anyone feel like fixing kooldock? | 12:29 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 12:29 |
| === gnomefreak hasnt seen imbrandon in ages | ||
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| Jucato | is there any news regarding the porting of gdebi to Kubuntu? | 01:56 |
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| Hobbsee | isnt that a forum thing? | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | in fact, isnt there a kde thing before gdebi? | 01:57 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: wasn't that one of the things Riddell wanted for feisty? | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: there's already a "right click on deb, install" thing there.. | 01:58 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt know | ||
| Jucato | yes, but that's just a "hack". it just launches xterm with the dpkg command | 01:58 |
| Jucato | it's also not the default action when you click on a .deb (default is to open it in Ark) | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | ah, right, yes | 01:59 |
| Riddell | Jucato: nobody's working on it, it hasn't been spec'ed | 01:59 |
| Jucato | ah... | 01:59 |
| Riddell | Jucato: volunteers welcome :) | 02:00 |
| Riddell | but it depends on the konsole work that I'm doing now with mvo | 02:00 |
| Jucato | Riddell: need to learn C++ first (still learning... I'm getting there...) :D | 02:00 |
| Jucato | aah | 02:00 |
| Riddell | Jucato: it's python | 02:01 |
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| Jucato | oh... | 02:01 |
| Jucato | manchicken won't be intersted then... | 02:01 |
| === Jucato snickers | ||
| Riddell | wrong distro for someone who doesn't like python :) | 02:07 |
| Riddell | (not really) | 02:07 |
| Jucato | hahah | 02:07 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 02:22 |
| Jucato | hi Tonio_ | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | anyone german? | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | ich nicht spreke Deutsch | 02:23 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | you speak dutch | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | your not even | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | nicht == not i think | 02:24 |
| Jucato | then she's odd? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Nein, ich nicht spreke Dutch aber Deutsch | 02:24 |
| hunger | gnomefreak: I am. | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | chaostreffpunkt | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | what is that in english? | 02:24 |
| hunger | Hobbsee: Nein, ich spreche weder Hollndisch noch Deutsch. | 02:24 |
| hunger | gnomefreak: Is there CCC mentioned somewhere? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | hunger: heh | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | no | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | its chaos meeting place i just found out | 02:25 |
| hunger | gnomefreak: If it is then it is a place where members of the Chaos Computer Club meet each other. | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 02:26 |
| hunger | gnomefreak: I'd guess it is something CCC related... it does not make much sense in any other context:-) | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok there sa channel on freenode #ubuntu-de-chaostreffpunkt trying to figure out what it was | 02:27 |
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| Jucato | do we have a devel package for hspell? | 03:26 |
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| mhb | Riddell: anything more to test? | 03:37 |
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| Jucato | hi manchicken! hi bddebian | 03:54 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 03:54 |
| Riddell | mhb: edgy in a bit if you have that | 04:02 |
| mhb | Riddell: no, feisty only | 04:02 |
| Riddell | mhb: still worth testing feisty :) | 04:03 |
| mhb | Riddell: see -testers | 04:04 |
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| manchicken | wuddup Jucato? | 04:30 |
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| mhb | is KDE4 going to have a separate IRC and IM client? | 06:50 |
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| sebas | mhb: Check out the kde-devel list, there is a huuuuuuuuuge thread about that just now going on. | 06:50 |
| yuriy | there's already a separate irc client.. | 06:50 |
| mhb | sebas: oh, didn't know that | 06:51 |
| sebas | No problem, just coincidence | 06:52 |
| mhb | yuriy: yes, but Kubuntu has been trying to remove duplicate functionality recently | 06:52 |
| yuriy | the move ksirc to extragear thread? | 06:55 |
| fdoving | i don't think konversation will be removed for the irc plugin in kopete.. ever. | 06:55 |
| fdoving | in kubuntu, that is. | 06:55 |
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| mhb | fdoving: OTOH I hope it will be :o) but I know Kopete would need some "Konversation"-isation in order to be a functional IRC client | 06:58 |
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| fdoving | i'm totaly agains the idea of having one app that does everything. | 06:58 |
| mhb | fdoving: we do have an app that does everything music, one that does everything video ... | 06:59 |
| mhb | fdoving: ... and we include two IM apps that do the same thing. | 07:01 |
| yuriy | i haven't tried irc with kopete but i tried it with gaim at some point and it just doesn't seem to fit in.. | 07:01 |
| mhb | yuriy: same with kopete now, IMHO | 07:01 |
| fdoving | i don't consider IRC IM in the same way ICQ, MSN and Jabber are IM. | 07:01 |
| mhb | fdoving: Jabber conference is practically the same thing as an IRC channel | 07:02 |
| fdoving | if we don't want people to find #kubuntu, removing konversation from the default install is a great way. | 07:02 |
| mhb | fdoving: I'd instinctively try my IM application for IRC if I were a new user | 07:03 |
| mhb | fdoving: but no reason to discuss it now | 07:04 |
| fdoving | mhb: the thing is, getting online in #kubuntu with konversation is like 4 clicks, getting online in #kubuntu with kopete is like 20 clicks atleast. And new users will probably give up after 5. | 07:04 |
| mhb | fdoving: Kopete's IRC is still rather clumsy | 07:04 |
| sebas | It largely depends on the type of users you have in mind. | 07:04 |
| sebas | Well, read the thread on kde-devel, it has exactly the same arguments. | 07:04 |
| sebas | Repeating it might be a waste of time :-) | 07:05 |
| fdoving | good point. | 07:05 |
| mhb | true | 07:05 |
| mhb | we'll see what the KDE boys decide to do | 07:05 |
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| pinheiro | hey Riddell | 09:07 |
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| pinheiro | im going to do a presentation next month about oxygen it would be cool if i had some kubunto cd's to give arround | 09:09 |
| lotusleaf | pinheiro: did you request some kubuntu cds @ https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ in advance? :) | 09:15 |
| fdoving | there must exist some edgy cds for special events, no? | 09:19 |
| fdoving | shipit only ships dapper iirc. | 09:19 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: proposed debdiff attached to bug 81180, please review and upload to feisty if it's OK. thanks. :) | 11:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81180 in kopete "kopete does not send photo from global identity for MSN" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81180 | 11:39 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: nevermind the last message, the fix has been changed again. I'll stop fixing packages this fast. there will always be a better fix gah. well.. | 11:43 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: fixed, last debdiff got the real fix. review and upload if ok. thanks bye. | 11:55 |
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