[12:23] <crusty> hello! iv just installed UNACE to oper ace comressed file, but i can not run it from the K menu.how to runn sich thing???thanks
[12:30] <dwidmann> crusty: run it in konsole
[12:30] <j_> I have this ext3 partition that I want to mount on startup, how do I proceed?
[12:30] <dwidmann> it's a cli app
[12:30] <j_> it used to be ext2 and there is an entry for it in fstab, but that has the ext2 options
[12:30] <dwidmann> j_: well, if you want it to mount on startup, all you have to do is put it in your /etc/fstab file
[12:31] <Alumin_> can I use multiple monitors with my current setup (Kubuntu 6.06), or does it require special setup/modules?
[12:31] <dwidmann> j_ If you have it mounted right now, the easiest way to do so is to copy and paste the line from the /etc/mtab file that refers to it into the /etc/fstab file
[12:31] <j_> dwidmann: what should the line look like?
[12:31] <j_> ahaha
[12:31] <j_> a
[12:31] <Alumin_> note that I am deliberately _not_ describing my setup further, since I'm interested in seeing if the answer is contingent upon a particular setup :)
[12:31] <j_> I mean: ahah
[12:31] <user-land> Wie kann ich sehen wie voll meine disks sind ?
[12:32] <dwidmann> alumin: it might require special setup, but it can be done.
[12:32] <j_> it wont mount since fstab has the old options
[12:32] <user-land> sorry
[12:32] <user-land> How can i see how full my disks are ?
[12:32] <Alumin_> dwidmann: note: "editing the xorg.conf file" does not count as special setup
[12:32] <dwidmann> j_: old options?
[12:32] <dwidmann> user-land: df -h
[12:32] <Alumin_> I just mean, loading extra modules, etc
[12:32] <user-land> thanks dwidmann :-)
[12:32] <j_> it looks like this: dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ext2 nouser,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noe$
[12:33] <Alumin_> j_: try catting the file instead of opening it in an editor
[12:33] <Alumin_> that line goes on further
[12:33] <crusty> dwidman...how do i run it in konsole? what i hawe to writr in it to do so? sorry but im new of kubuntu
[12:33] <j_> oops, here: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ext2 nouser,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[12:33] <dwidmann> crusty, come to think of it, I wonder if ark can make use of it for you
[12:34] <Alumin_> j_: that looks suitable for inclusion in fstab to me
[12:34] <crusty> ark is not good! i did tryed
[12:34] <j_> that is from fstab
[12:34] <Alumin_> oh
[12:34] <Alumin_> well then I guess I was right, eh
[12:34] <Alumin_> heh
[12:34] <j_> it's supposed to be ext3 though
[12:34] <Alumin_> ah
[12:35] <Alumin_> have you already created the journal?
[12:35] <j_> so the disk won't mount, you see I reformatted the partition
[12:35] <Alumin_> well, ext2 and ext3 are the same thing, ext3 just has a journal
[12:35] <j_> What I have done is mucked around with that partition with Gparted live-cd
[12:35] <dwidmann> j_: that's interesting, change that line to read something like "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ext3 defaults 0 0" and see if it  mounts.
[12:36] <Alumin_> if you already have the journal created, just change your fstab to ext3 and remount
[12:36] <j_> it's exititing to partition stuff when you have no idea what you are doing
[12:36] <j_> *exciting
[12:36] <Alumin_> that's the spirit!
[12:36] <j_> dwidmann, will do
[12:36] <crusty> there is anybody out there who can tell me how to run unace in console?
[12:37] <j_> I'm not sure if I have created the journal, how do I check or create it?
[12:37] <Alumin_> j_: tune2fs can check/create it for you
[12:37] <dwidmann> crusty: "unace --help" will give you usage information
[12:37] <crusty> ok! thanks
[12:40] <Alumin_> random question #2: Any luck with LightScribe in Edgy or Feisty?
[12:40] <Alumin_> either as a K3b extension, or using the standalone app provided by LaCie
[12:41] <gabrieldain> Anybody know of a program that acts like AnyDVD (in windows), bypassing DVD and CD copyright restrictions?
[12:42] <Alumin_> from what I've read, it works fine on Dapper but not Edgy or Feisty
[12:42] <Alumin_> gabrieldain: you can't just "bypass" CSS
[12:42] <xst> I own a monitor that can rotate 90 degrees. How can I rotate screen when I rotate the monitor (from portrait to landscape)?
[12:42] <Alumin_> and CDs don't have copyright restrictions in a technical sense
[12:43] <Alumin_> xst: my guess would be that that kind of function would require cooperation from the driver
[12:43] <j_> alright, tune2fs is too hard for me
[12:43] <gabrieldain> Alumin_, leaving all technical terms aside (as I know nothing about them), is there such an application?
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> xst: where can i get one of these?  my never-ending obsession with curtain-scrolling shooters demands i purchase one.
[12:43] <j_> read the man and everything, no luck
[12:44] <matze> !ntfs-3g
[12:44] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:44] <xst> Daisuke_Ido: Most newer monitors can rotate in this way. Look at dell.com for instance
[12:44] <Alumin_> gabrieldain: anything that uses libdvdcss can decode DVD content
[12:44] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough
[12:44] <gabrieldain> Alumin_, alright, il look into it, thanks
[12:44] <j_> Ive never understood why man pages never hav example commands
[12:44] <j_> *have
[12:44] <Alumin_> j_: tune2fs does :)
[12:45] <Tido> what's the best way to install the eclipse IDE?  just downloading it off the website gives you a version that crashes :(
[12:45] <Alumin_> you're looking for -j I believe
[12:45] <gabrieldain> j_, tune2fs -j /dev/hda1 will create a journal in the first partition of hard drive A
[12:45] <Alumin_> Tido: geez you want it to RUN too?
[12:45] <Tido> lol
[12:45] <Alumin_> bloody users
[12:45] <Tido> hey it come close
[12:45] <Tido> right up to the point you load a file
[12:45] <Alumin_> next you'll want to edit text with it
[12:45] <Tido> then it goes to hell
[12:46] <j_> gabrieldain: thanks, I was confused about what was the format of the device parameter
[12:46] <j_> tried just hda1 but that didn't cut it
[12:46] <gabrieldain> j_, whats the error message?
[12:47] <j_> tune2fs: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/hda1
[12:47] <j_> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[12:47] <Alumin_> Tido: can I assume by your presence in this channel that you're using Kubuntu?
[12:47] <j_> should have used sudo?
[12:47] <Tido> that's correct, Alumin_
[12:47] <gabrieldain> j_, did you run the command as root?
[12:47] <Alumin_> Tido: tried the packages?
[12:47] <gabrieldain> sudo tune2fs -j /dev/hda1
[12:47] <j_> The filesystem already has a journal.
[12:47] <Tido> I did, but I'm wondering if I got the wrong ones
[12:47] <j_> now all I need to do is mount it
[12:48] <Tido> because eclipse, eclipse-platform, etc
[12:48] <Tido> they install
[12:48] <gabrieldain> j_, then its ext3, and you dont have to worry about tune2fs anymore.
[12:48] <Alumin_> Tido: I mean the packages in the Kubuntu repositories
[12:48] <Tido> but I really don't get anything :(
[12:48] <Tido> let me see if I have those in my sources
[12:48] <dope> is there a gtalk client for linux?
[12:48] <Alumin_> Tido: universe
[12:49] <Alumin_> dope: like Gaim? :)
[12:49] <dope> like can you call on it
[12:49] <Alumin_> dope: if by "gtalk" you mean "Google Talk", any Jabber client will work
[12:49] <Alumin_> oh
[12:49] <Tido> yeah the universe repos are enabled
[12:49] <Alumin_> with voice support I dunno
[12:50] <dope> and skype won't let you call regular phones for free anymore
[12:50] <dope> that's lame
[12:50] <Alumin_> Tido: what do you get for "apt-cache search eclipse"?
[12:50] <Karol84PL> Hello, where can I find KDE Control Center in Kubuntu Dapper Drake?
[12:50] <Tido> a lot
[12:50] <Alumin_> dope: that was never gonna last forever, costs money to do that :)
[12:50] <Tido> we have all sorts of flavors
[12:50] <matze> hello. how can i activate the num-block at boot?
[12:51] <j_> err, now what? control center won't allow me to "Enable" hda1, which I suspect is the same as mounting
[12:51] <Jucato> matze: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone have an opinion on the idea of lin/freespire's click-n-run going multi-distro?
[12:52] <matze> Jucato: thanks a lot
[12:52] <Jucato> matze: but that will only activate numlock after logging into KDE. so it will still be off before you login
[12:52] <Alumin_> Daisuke_Ido: I'm a fan of anything going multi-distro
[12:52] <Jucato> !offtopic
[12:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> apologies
[12:52] <matze> jucato: this is no problem. i only need it after login. ;)
[12:53] <Jucato> matze: ok, that should work then
[12:53] <j_> sudo mount -a gives: "mount: special device dev/hda1 does not exist"
[12:53] <matze> uhm. i use ubuntu
[12:54] <Jucato> matze: huh?
[12:54] <j_> should I boot?
[12:55] <Jucato> j_: it's /dev/hda1 not dev/hda1
[12:55] <j_> hah, and I even double-checked the line myswlf
[12:56] <j_> thanks
[12:56] <j_> beautiful, I have a working empty ext3 partition
[12:57] <j_> thanks everyone
[12:57] <dope> someone skype me
[12:58] <Jucato> lol
[12:59] <dope> i want YOU to want to skype ME
[12:59] <matze> rofl?
[01:00] <dope> what are some good programs i can download
[01:01] <j_> dope, for what?
[01:01] <dope> kubuntu
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> what would you like them to do?
[01:02] <Jucato> Kubuntu has over 20,000 packages... I'm sure you can find something interesting in there
[01:02] <dope> i dunno
[01:02] <dope> what are some important programs to have
[01:02] <pgdown> ...
[01:02] <Jucato> ...
[01:02] <dope> ...
[01:02] <Jucato> important programs? depends on you
[01:02] <j_> dope, your being a bit vague here
[01:02] <Tido> Alumin_: here's what happens when I open a file in Eclipse -> http://pastecode.com/12360
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> well, i'm rather fond of amarok myself, but i think that's part of a default kubuntu install
[01:03] <j_> Kubuntu comes with all the essential programs
[01:03] <dope> yea i got that
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> without knowing what you want to do, it's hard to recommend anything
[01:03] <j_> the only real application I have installed is Xara extreme for vector image editing
[01:04] <j_> or Xtreme it seems
[01:04] <Alumin_> dope: perhaps gimp if you're into the whole graphics thing
[01:04] <Alumin_> or blender
[01:04] <dope> yea already got gimp
[01:04] <Alumin_> maybe MythTV if you're looking for a project
[01:04] <pgdown> zsnes for roms
[01:04] <j_> oh yeah, The ur-quan masters
[01:04] <pgdown> nvu for web designing
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> j_: what about inkscape?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> yup , Mythtv ix a 'project" alright ... good luck :)
[01:05] <pgdown> ktorrent beta for torrents
[01:05] <j_> Daisuke_Ido: haven't tried that one yet
[01:05] <Jucato> ktorrent is installed by default
[01:05] <Jucato> (there is no beta)
[01:05] <pgdown> the beta that is out is better
[01:05] <pgdown> yes
[01:06] <Alumin_> basket is neat if you do the whole clipboard stack thing
[01:06] <Alumin_> or knotes
[01:06] <Alumin_> or zim
[01:06] <Theory> basket is very neat
[01:06] <pgdown> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[01:06] <j_> frankly, I generally use Freehand on windows for my vector graphics needs
[01:06] <Jucato> ah that beta
[01:06] <j_> used to it
[01:06] <matt0507> what is the console command to mount my ntfs partition? usually it auto mounts in /media/sda2 but not when i click on that folder its empty.
[01:06] <Alumin_> there's always UT2004 :)
[01:06] <pgdown> oink accepts the beta, but not the current release
[01:07] <Alumin_> matt0507: mount /media/sda2
[01:07] <matt0507> ty
[01:07] <Alumin_> oink?
[01:08] <pgdown> !oink
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Alumin_> never mind.
[01:08] <pgdown> heh
[01:08] <pgdown> private tracker
[01:08] <pgdown> for music
[01:09] <moparisthebest> can someone help me with an nvidia problem? when I boot up my desktop appears to be running with 256-bit color, then I hit ctrl-alt-backspace and it goes back to normal
[01:09] <moparisthebest> I dont know what the problem is :/
[01:10] <j_> moparisthebest: do you use the nividia proprietary drivers?
[01:10] <Alumin_> moparisthebest: you need to re-order the display stanzas in your X.org conf
[01:10] <moparisthebest> yes j_
[01:10] <Alumin_> it's doing the 256-color one first
[01:11] <moparisthebest> ok Alumin_ Im opening the file now
[01:11] <dwidmann> moparis, I've experienced that problem once, try disabling usplash and see if that makes a difference
[01:12] <Alumin_> oh wait you said ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:12] <moparisthebest> yea
[01:12] <Alumin_> moparisthebest: sorry, I'm barking up the wrong tree, for some reason when I read that I saw "ctrl-alt-minus"
[01:12] <moparisthebest> disabling the nvidia splash screen dwidmann ?
[01:13] <Alumin_> my idea's not going to help you
[01:13] <moparisthebest> ok
[01:13] <matt0507> !ntfxfinx
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfxfinx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <dwidmann> No, disabling usplash (the splash screen that you get during the boot process, that shows the kubuntu logo and a progress bar)
[01:13] <matt0507> !ntfxfix
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfxfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <matt0507> i have to run 'ntfxfix' before able to mount my other partition? how do i run it?
[01:14] <red22> how do i  know what version of kubuntu i'm running pls?
[01:14] <moparisthebest> ntfsfix probably matt0507
[01:15] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: to do so, when you're at the grub boot menu, press 'e' for edit on the default option, go t he second line, which should start with kernel, and press 'e' again, towards the end of the line, you'll see the word splash, remove it, then press enter to return, and then press 'b' to boot and see if it worked for you
[01:15] <matt0507> moparisthebest:  typing in 'ntfxfix' and pressing enter does not work for me.
[01:15] <moparisthebest> matt0507, ntfsfix
[01:15] <moparisthebest> not ntfxfix
[01:15] <moparisthebest> s not x
[01:15] <red22> dmesg says Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 but i'm not sure if this is what i'm looking for.. which release is this please?
[01:15] <moparisthebest> ok dwidmann Ill try that, thanks
[01:15] <matt0507> ye command not found :p ntfsfix
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !ntfsfix
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <moparisthebest> oh, cause you kept saying ntfxfix :P
[01:16] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, that's not permanent, it's only temporary, a good option to see if it works though
[01:16] <moparisthebest> yep, Ill check it out now
[01:16] <xymox18> hello world
[01:17] <red22> <- super noob, has super easy question.. how do i know which kubuntu i'm running pls?
[01:17] <xymox18> any one speak spanish????
[01:17] <dwidmann> red22: lsb_release -a
[01:17] <red22> i do, i don't speak much linux though ;)
[01:17] <xymox18> jajajaja
[01:17] <dwidmann> I speak a mixture of bash and english :O
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i speak a mixture of lobjan and esperanto
[01:18] <gabrieldain> xymox18, si, qu necesitas? hay un canal para espaol, creo. Sino, por privado
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !es
[01:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:18] <gabrieldain> Yeah, basically what I said :P
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[01:19] <red22> dwidmann: TY :) wow that's a weird command to just know off the top of your head.. jotting down...
[01:19] <moparisthebest> haha you know that fixed it dwidmann ? :)
[01:19] <moparisthebest> I would have never thought of that, where did you learn that from?
[01:19] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: I ran into that before once myself
[01:20] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, one sec, I'll grab the permanent fix for you
[01:20] <moparisthebest> that is a very strange bug, thanks a lot
[01:22] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, just a minute til vmware finishes this install and reboots, then I'll grab the fix for you
[01:22] <moparisthebest> ok dwidmann thank you
[01:22] <red22> a few months ago kubuntu wasn't playing nice with my ati x1950pro... anyone know if it should work now?  (before i waste another few days trying pls)
[01:27] <red22> hm.. looks promising... i'm gonna try the new "automated" installer on the ati stie posted a couple weeks ago and see how that goes...
[01:27] <dwidmann> moparisthebest left? dratted
[01:27] <red22> i'll believe "automated' when i see it though
[01:29] <andre_> hey guys
[01:30] <red22> yo
[01:30] <moparisthebest> im back dwidmann, had to restart
[01:30] <andre_> You guys probably get lots of questions here...
[01:31] <andre_> and I have one too... you guys mind if I ask away?
[01:31] <red22> my goodness brother just get it out :)
[01:32] <andre_> Aiight I have an A8N-SLI premium mobo
[01:32] <BluesKaj> anyone using the ktorrent 2.1 beta ?
[01:32] <andre_> and I downloaded the ALC850 drivers provided by ASUS
[01:32] <andre_> only problem is I can't compile them to install them
[01:33] <dwidmann> andre: with that board, sound should work out of the box
[01:33] <Alumin_> "apt-get install build-essential" ?
[01:33] <dwidmann> Trust me, that's the same board I have
[01:33] <Alumin_> but yeah, I'd make sure you have to build first
[01:33] <andre_> dwidmann
[01:33] <andre_> it did work out of the box
[01:33] <andre_> but not 5.1 surround
[01:34] <andre_> so in an effort ot get 5.1 I tried to build and now my sound is completely F'ed
[01:34] <andre_> kmix doesn't recognise a mixer
[01:34] <dwidmann> andre_: 5.1 surround is a pain in the butt to get working in general, but if sound is working, what you need to look at is your alsa configuration and mixer settings
[01:34] <adamwest> guys i need help D:
[01:34] <andre_> dwidmann :(
[01:34] <dwidmann> I've got 4 channel surround sound working at the moment :)
[01:34] <crimsun> andre_: don't use those drivers; use what we distribute
[01:34] <andre_> build-essential is installllled
[01:35] <dwidmann> andre, you can only get real 5 channel surround whne you'
[01:35] <dwidmann> re playing a file that uses 5.1 sound
[01:35] <andre_> k
[01:35] <adamwest> my kde theme took over gnome and now it looks buggy and i can't change themes, and the theme window keeps crashing :( (in gnome)
[01:36] <dwidmann> If you're playing a regular stereo or mono sound file, you'll only get output from the front two speakers, unless you use duplicate front
[01:36] <andre_> first I should get my sound to work at all
[01:36] <andre_> Dwidmann: dman it!
[01:36] <andre_> dwidmann: I wish I knew that before I f'ed up everything
[01:36] <dwidmann> huh?
[01:36] <dwidmann> oops?
[01:37] <andre_> ok let me start over
[01:37] <andre_> sorry If we're confused
[01:37] <andre_> Dwidmann:  thanks for the tip about 5.1 only working with 5.1 sound media
[01:38] <andre_> at the moment I have no sound at all
[01:38] <andre_> because I tried to install the ALC850 stuff, since then, no sound
[01:38] <crimsun> that's easily resolved. Reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) after removing /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/sound/
[01:39] <crimsun> sorry, /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound/
[01:39] <andre_> crimsun:  sec
[01:40] <dwidmann> andre,  no problem :)
[01:40] <andre_> crimsun:  I'm a little confused...  sorry still getting the hang of linux
[01:41] <andre_> those are commands right?
[01:42] <Alumin_> crimsun: I envy the depth of knowledge you must have to be able to nonchalantly suggest a solution like that :)
[01:42] <crimsun> andre_: yes:  rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound/  && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:42] <dwidmann> andre_: first rm /lib/modules/`uname -r`/sound
[01:42] <dwidmann> ah, yes, that
[01:42] <dwidmann> there you go
[01:44] <dwidmann> Alumin, if my limitted memory serves me correctly, crimsun is some sort of linux sound mega-genius (flattery intended)
[01:44] <andre_> thanks...  should I reboot after this?
[01:45] <crimsun> andre_: that would probably be easiest.
[01:45] <andre_> aiight I'll be back shortly
[01:49] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, are you here?
[01:49] <moparisthebest> yes dwidmann
[01:49] <dwidmann> alrighty then
[01:49] <dwidmann> I guess I missed that, sorry :\
[01:50] <moparisthebest> its ok
[01:51] <andre_> back with working sound
[01:51] <andre_> MY god...
[01:51] <andre_> I can't believe how easy for you that was crimson
[01:51] <andre_> it would've taken me forever by browsing forums
[01:53] <andre_> I guess you've probably already left.  I just want to extend my thanks and appreciation.
[01:54] <andre_> to all who work on ubuntu, GREAT JOB!!!  I haven't need to go back to windows in 3 weeks.  And no longer plan to get Vista
[01:54] <moparisthebest> its great isn't it? :)
[01:54] <andre_> I'm happy!!
[01:54] <andre_> yes it is!
[01:55] <andre_> well guys I'm must go for now and tend to the family.  You'll probably see my face here everyonce in a while looking for answers :)
[01:55] <andre_> cheers
[01:55] <BluesKaj> another happy (k)ubuntu customer :)
[01:56] <Tido> :)
[01:56] <moparisthebest> yup
[01:56] <Peruna> just wonder if Kubuntu support filename.partX.rar files ?
[01:56] <Peruna> X stands for 1,2,3,4...
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Peruna: it's not kubuntu that supports it
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> it's unrar
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and yes
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> it does
[01:56] <BluesKaj> haven't used windows in 5 days, that's a record for me :)
[01:56] <Peruna> ok
[01:56] <Tido> when is the next release of (k)ubuntu due?
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> april
[01:57] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, first, open up the grub menu.lst file (kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst), then look for a line that starts with "#defoptions", on that line, remove the word splash, and save. Then run "sudo update-grub" and you should be golden
[01:58] <Tido> when it comes to development, I love using kubuntu and never need to touch windows
[01:58] <Tido> I miss WinSCP a little, but Konqueror is able to get it done
[01:59] <moparisthebest> I like konqueror way better than WinSCP
[01:59] <moparisthebest> ok dwidmann, done, Im restarting to check it out
[01:59] <Tido> and I do sometimes pray for a Photoshop that runs natively on linux
[02:00] <Tido> KDE has something that irritates me sometimes
[02:01] <Tido> I'll open a program by accident, and then close it quickly
[02:01] <Tido> but KDE still thinks I'm opening it
[02:01] <sampan> gimp is fine except for one problem: it doesn't handle 16 bit color depth, which means it's a no-go for serious b/w work
[02:01] <Tido> so I get the mouse icon, and the taskbar item for awhile, but for no reason
[02:01] <sampan> if they added 16 bit color depth and (ideally) adjustment layers to gimp i'd be a happy camper and wouldn't need PS
[02:01] <Tido> and once in awhile Firefox just crashes for no reason
[02:02] <Tido> I need better CMYK support
[02:02] <sampan> :/
[02:04] <Peruna> seems like Ark with unrar doesn't support password protected .rar
[02:05] <moparisthebest> yep it worked dwidmann, thanks again
[02:05] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: You're welcome
[02:05] <dwidmann> !info python-support
[02:05] <ubotu> python-support: automated rebuilding support for python modules. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 196 kB
[02:06] <mustang_> Does anyone know why pon would stop connecting on an edgy eft system?  The only way to get it to connect is a reboot.  It will connect fine and then after poff and some idle time, it will not allow reconnect with pon
[02:07] <mustang_> I get this in the logs pppd[6437] 	Connect script failed
[02:09] <NotSure> my system will no longer start KDE
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Peruna: you can use the commandline version
[02:10] <NotSure> any faq pages for this?
[02:10] <mustang_> NotSure, can you be a little more specific?
[02:10] <Peruna> what command could it be ?
[02:11] <mustang_> is it a black screen, or does it goto shell logon
[02:11] <NotSure> well... when i start up now it will only go to failsafe terminal mode
[02:11] <mustang_> let me check something
[02:11] <NotSure> i get the gnome login screen... not to kubuntu one
[02:11] <mustang_> what verion of Linux is it
[02:11] <NotSure> edgy
[02:11] <NotSure> kubuntu
[02:11] <mustang_> thats what Im running
[02:11] <NotSure> upgraded from dapper
[02:11] <mustang_> you don't want Gnome?  You do want KDE?
[02:12] <NotSure> ever since the upgrade... what a mess
[02:12] <NotSure> right
[02:12] <mustang_> Yea, Ive heard horror stories myself
[02:12] <mustang_> I did a fresh install
[02:12] <NotSure> i've reinstalled every kubuntu-desktop package
[02:12] <NotSure> still no workie :-(
[02:12] <mustang_> one second, and I will get you some information
[02:12] <NotSure> thanks
[02:12] <mustang_> np
[02:12] <NotSure> i can't even move these windows around... this must be a default/bad window manager
[02:13] <mustang_> its probabally a xdmcp session your in of some sort
[02:13] <mustang_> that will happen
[02:13] <NotSure> all my programs seem to run... xchat and firefox, etc...
[02:13] <Tido> what's your favorite KDE theme?
[02:14] <NotSure> the default one
[02:14] <mustang_> Just the default one
[02:14] <mustang_> lol
[02:14] <mustang_> Ok, try this
[02:14] <mustang_> write this down so you don't forget
[02:15] <mustang_> goto shell
[02:15] <NotSure> okay
[02:15] <mustang_> $sudo apt-get purge gnome
[02:15] <mustang_> that will uninstall it and remove it from your local repository
[02:15] <mustang_> get rid of it period
[02:15] <mustang_> then after the purge
[02:15] <mustang_> try
[02:15] <mustang_> $sudo apt-get install kde
[02:15] <mustang_> what your missing is the kde_desktop module
[02:16] <mustang_> I think thats the right one
[02:16] <mustang_> that same thing happened to me once
[02:16] <NotSure> okie dokie... brb
[02:16] <mustang_> okie
[02:17] <NotSure> says E: Invalid operation purge
[02:17] <mustang_> umm, let me see from my shell
[02:17] <mustang_> what kinda network connection are you on for speed
[02:18] <mustang_> just to make sure this won't take you a week
[02:18] <NotSure> 5Mb
[02:18] <mustang_> okie
[02:18] <mustang_> good
[02:18] <mustang_> do a
[02:18] <mustang_> $sudo apt-get remove gnome
[02:18] <mustang_> that will uninstall it
[02:18] <NotSure> okay
[02:19] <NotSure> i'm still here and the remove is done :-)
[02:19] <NotSure> now for the install
[02:19] <mustang_> 1 more step
[02:19] <mustang_> do a $sudo apt-get check
[02:20] <NotSure> k
[02:20] <mustang_> that will check for broken dependancies
[02:20] <NotSure> no problems reported
[02:20] <mustang_> ok
[02:20] <mustang_> now do the $sudo apt-get install kde
[02:20] <mustang_> if that don't work, try kdm instead
[02:21] <NotSure> says i'm already at the newest KDE
[02:21] <mustang_> ok, lets try
[02:21] <NotSure> same, newest KDM
[02:21] <mustang_> $ sudo apt-get reinstall kde
[02:21] <NotSure> you mean sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde?
[02:22] <mustang_> let me look
[02:22] <mustang_> well, try it both ways
[02:22] <mustang_> let me know which one works
[02:22] <NotSure> your way didn't work :-)
[02:22] <mustang_> lol
[02:22] <mustang_> too much linux on the brain
[02:23] <mustang_> did the other way work?
[02:23] <NotSure> i even forced the reinstall of the entire kubuntu-desktop earlier... including every depends
[02:23] <NotSure> yes but i'm still stuck here
[02:23] <NotSure> :-)
[02:23] <NotSure> restart X?
[02:23] <mustang_> what command will you use?
[02:23] <NotSure> ctrl-alt backspace
[02:24] <mustang_> I don't think that will work, but lets try
[02:24] <NotSure> okay... brb
[02:24] <mustang_> I don't think it will work from a shell
[02:24] <NotSure> nope
[02:24] <NotSure> same same
[02:24] <osiris> apt issues.  if someone would look.  http://rafb.net/p/vIDiFU57.nln.html
[02:25] <mustang_> what are you looking at now?
[02:25] <NotSure> same
[02:25] <mustang_> black shell screen?
[02:25] <NotSure> terminal and i manually started xchat
[02:25] <mustang_> ok, try startkde
[02:25] <NotSure> woot! blue screen
[02:25] <NotSure> KPersonalizer came up
[02:25] <mustang_> now make sure your windows work normally
[02:26] <NotSure> lemme answer it's questions
[02:26] <mustang_> can you move around the windows?
[02:26] <NotSure> yes
[02:26] <mustang_> sweet
[02:26] <NotSure> but the bar at the bottom isn't there yet
[02:26] <mustang_> hummm
[02:26] <osiris> kicker
[02:26] <mustang_> if you restart your system, can you make it back here to chat?
[02:26] <NotSure> there we go!!
[02:26] <NotSure> yowsa
[02:27] <NotSure> u rock mustang_
[02:27] <NotSure> i don't know... should i reboot?
[02:27] <mustang_> would you believe im a total noob at linux
[02:27] <NotSure> damn smrt noob
[02:27] <mustang_> yes, reboot.  If you can't get to the logon kde screen....then do an xchat and get back in here
[02:27] <osiris> we are all n00bs in one area or another
[02:27] <mustang_> I will be waiting on you
[02:27] <NotSure> thanks man!!
[02:27] <NotSure> brb
[02:27] <mustang_> Yea, but Ive only been working with linux 2 mths
[02:28] <mustang_> lol
[02:28] <mustang_> im a windows person for 20 yrs
[02:28] <mustang_> ok Ill be here
[02:28] <NotSure> hmm
[02:28] <NotSure> the reboot isn't rebooting
[02:28] <NotSure> it killed the window manager
[02:28] <mustang_> ok, do a shell
[02:28] <mustang_> then type, sudo shutdown -r now
[02:28] <osiris> no
[02:28] <osiris> sudo reboot
[02:29] <mustang_> or sudo reboot
[02:29] <osiris> or sudo poweroff
[02:29] <osiris> easier to remember
[02:29] <mustang_> poweroff will kill it
[02:29] <mustang_> not reboot it
[02:29] <extravaker> hi
[02:29] <crxyem> so, let's say I'd like to do a fresh install of edgy 6.10, am I correct to assume I can do a install and not touch the /home dir and I won't loose any of my settings ?? for firefox, etc...
[02:29] <mustang_> I have figured out a 3 letter command that works every time
[02:29] <mustang_> man
[02:30] <osiris> crxyem, as long as /home is a seperate partition
[02:30] <mustang_> osiris?  wanna take that one
[02:30] <mustang_> sweet
[02:30] <osiris> and you don't format it during install
[02:30] <BluesKaj> crxyem, what do yeah define as a "fresh install" ?
[02:31] <osiris> give it the same mount point
[02:31] <sampan> crxyem  that's right, though i chose a different username (it left my old username home directory and then i copied over bookmarks etc. as sneeded)
[02:31] <crxyem> a fresh install, I have 3 partitions. one is /, swap, /home
[02:31] <sampan> if you choose the same username it may overwrite the home dir, not sure
[02:32] <mustang_> if you try to doa fresh install of 6.10 in the same place as it was before and your home dir is on the mount point for your partition where linux was, you will write over your home dir...  the best way is to backup your home dir to another drive and reinstall everything, then copy back over your home location
[02:32] <NotSure> nope
[02:32] <NotSure> had to startkde myself
[02:32] <mustang_> hummm
[02:32] <NotSure> closer than before though :-)
[02:32] <mustang_> let me think
[02:33] <NotSure> i'm guessing kdm is pooched somehow
[02:33] <crxyem> '/home is on it's own partition
[02:33] <mustang_> did you also do an apt-get --reinstall install kdm before the reboot
[02:33] <mustang_> ?
[02:33] <NotSure> no sir
[02:33] <mustang_> try that one
[02:34] <mustang_> if /home is on another partition that the linux partition, then you will not overwrite the hoem directory
[02:34] <crxyem> example, /home is /dev/sda3, / is /dev/sda1
[02:34] <mustang_> home that it
[02:34] <mustang_> shoot, me and my keyboard are fighting
[02:35] <crxyem> in the long run it doesn't matter as I'm using my laptop as a thin client really, all my personal data is stored on my home server
[02:36] <crxyem> but it sounds like I should be able to wipe / and reinstall , and /home should be fine
[02:37] <mustang_> right
[02:38] <osiris> yes
[02:38] <osiris> if its a different partition, and you dont format it duringre-install you will be fine
[02:38] <NotSure> same result :-(
[02:38] <mustang_> what you may want to do after the install is go into your system settings and set your home directory back to the location /dev/sda3/home/username
[02:38] <ifti> does anyone know how to use the enlightenment windo system
[02:38] <mustang_> ok, not out of solutions yet
[02:38] <crxyem> sweet,
[02:39] <osiris> ifti, what is the question
[02:39] <mustang_> try $sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <extravaker> hi all
[02:39] <NotSure> i've done that mustang_ , and i've reinstalled all it's dependencies
[02:39] <extravaker> somebody use the KFTPGrabber?
[02:39] <mustang_> im thinking
[02:40] <NotSure> let me try just in case
[02:40] <NotSure> nope, newest
[02:40] <osiris> extravaker, i have it.  dont really use it
[02:40] <osiris> but i have it
[02:40] <extravaker> i cant connect with KFTP
[02:41] <osiris> o yeah.  i couldnt figure out that app in 5 minutes, so i ditched it
[02:41] <crxyem> mustang are you saying I'll need to change a line in fstab to point to the home directory ??
[02:41] <mustang_> no
[02:41] <mustang_> fstab is mount points
[02:42] <mustang_> your running what vs of linux
[02:42] <crxyem> kubuntu
[02:42] <osiris> crxyem, you should be able to do it just fine from the installer
[02:42] <osiris> i have done what you are attempting several times, without issue
[02:42] <crxyem> that's what I thougth as well osiris
[02:43] <osiris> you may have to rm some ~/.files if you have issues with some apps
[02:43] <crxyem> only reason I need to is I did an updrage from dapper to edgy and I don't everything went 100% correct
[02:43] <mustang_> you will goto K, system settings/user management/ and then switch to admin mode
[02:43] <mustang_> then user accounts
[02:43] <osiris> but other than that, most will stay intact
[02:43] <mustang_> in there you will change your home location
[02:43] <mustang_> ok back to Notsure
[02:43] <NotSure> :-)
[02:44] <osiris> are you guys just trying to get kdm on boot ?
[02:44] <crxyem> ah I see mustang, forgot about that system setting
[02:44] <NotSure> that would be a good start osiris
[02:44] <mustang_> yes, hes landing at the shell on boot.. He had a full upgrade from dapper and now hes at the logon shell
[02:44] <osiris> did you check services for your run level in the system settings menu ?
[02:45] <NotSure> no, i'm landing at the gnome login at boot but no window manager starts once i login
[02:45] <osiris> is kdm located in /etc/init.d ?
[02:45] <mustang_> do you still have gnome?
[02:45] <NotSure> i removed it like you said
[02:45] <mustang_> ok
[02:45] <NotSure> but it still fires up...
[02:45] <mustang_> what?
[02:45] <NotSure> that brownish screen
[02:45] <mustang_> yuck
[02:45] <NotSure> well, it looks like gdm
[02:46] <NotSure> osiris, yes... it's there
[02:46] <mustang_> hes reinstalled kde, kdm, and checked for broken dependancies
[02:46] <mustang_> try sudo apt-get --fix-broken  it might work
[02:46] <NotSure> yup, done that :-)
[02:46] <mustang_> this same thing happened to me before
[02:46] <mustang_> it was a disaster
[02:46] <osiris> go into the services list for your run level
[02:46] <osiris> stop gdm
[02:47] <NotSure> it is a disaster... i would prefer not having to reinstall
[02:47] <osiris> and enable kdm at boot
[02:47] <NotSure> okay, lemme lookie there
[02:47] <NotSure> hmm, i don't see those in the service manager
[02:48] <mustang_> doesn't it sound like its not a complete install of kdm
[02:48] <NotSure> yeah
[02:48] <osiris> ok, well here is how to strip kdm period
[02:48] <osiris> http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0
[02:48] <osiris> follow the idea backwards
[02:48] <NotSure> hmmmm
[02:48] <mustang_> im looking too
[02:48] <dawn> !nividia
[02:48] <NotSure> says both gdm and kdm running
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <dawn> !nvidia
[02:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <ifti> does anyone know how to use enlightenment window manager
[02:49] <mustang_> in your sytem services?
[02:49] <NotSure> yes
[02:49] <NotSure> i'm gonna kill it
[02:49] <mustang_> ok, one sec
[02:49] <NotSure> yes?
[02:49] <mustang_> if your going to kill it, make sure it don't start next time
[02:49] <NotSure> yeah
[02:49] <NotSure> will do
[02:49] <mustang_> is there an administrator button anywhere
[02:50] <NotSure> yup
[02:50] <mustang_> go in there and set it to NO
[02:50] <mustang_> lol
[02:50] <osiris> uh
[02:50] <osiris> guess he should have irssi in a terminal before    he killed X
[02:50] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:51] <mustang_> osiris, it is possible that kdm and gdm may be fighting
[02:51] <mustang_> both were running in system svcds
[02:51] <mustang_> svcs
[02:51] <osiris> mustang_, possible
[02:51] <osiris> not that it would really matter
[02:51] <mustang_> how so
[02:51] <osiris> idk.  i just dont get the whole booting to gui thing i guess
[02:51] <osiris> i want to bootto a terminal
[02:52] <osiris> i might have things to do before i need a gui
[02:52] <mustang_> i kinda like having a gui in some ways, but Im leaning alot towards term too
[02:52] <osiris> i need someone to help with my APT issue so i can go about installing E17 again
[02:53] <mustang_> whats wrong with apt
[02:53] <osiris> http://rafb.net/p/vIDiFU57.nln.html
[02:54] <BluesKaj> the cli works for installations and I'm trying to do the cli with video recently -tovid and it's working weel so far
[02:54] <BluesKaj> well
[02:56] <mustang_> you have universe/multiverse enabled in your sources.list
[02:56] <osiris> yes
[02:56] <mustang_> let me see if I can find those on my side
[02:56] <BluesKaj> is apt stuck ?
[02:57] <mustang_> no, its looking for dependancies that it can;'t find it looks likew
[02:57] <osiris> no, its not stuck
[02:57] <osiris> just throwing those errors
[02:58] <shinigami> hi anyoneearthquake again.. knows why after upgrading from dapper to edgy, my laptop doesn't go into the kde when i  switched on..instead it goes into the tty1 log in..when i press ctrl alt f7, then the kde loads up?
[02:58] <mustang_> do a apt-get install for kdelibs4-dev
[02:58] <mustang_> see what that does
[02:58] <shinigami> who me?
[02:58] <mustang_> no osiris
[02:58] <shinigami> hi anyone knows why after upgrading from dapper to edgy, my laptop doesn't go into the kde when i  switched on..instead it goes into the tty1 log in..when i press ctrl alt f7, then the kde loads up?
[02:59] <mustang_> do the same for libtag1c2a
[02:59] <osiris> http://rafb.net/p/z31Uzw46.nln.html
[02:59] <osiris> no go
[03:00] <mustang_> thats starting to remind me of the skypemate installer
[03:00] <BluesKaj> shinigami, are getting a xserver error ?
[03:00] <NotWired> hiya mustang_, it's me... NotSure
[03:01] <NotWired> one step forward, two back :-)
[03:01] <mustang_> what about installing one dev at a time
[03:02] <NotWired> well, kdm comes up
[03:02] <NotWired> but when i login it just brings me back to the kdm screen
[03:02] <NotWired> can't even failsafe from that machine
[03:02] <NotWired> so i can to come to my laptop
[03:02] <shinigami> BluesKaj: how i see that?
[03:02] <NotWired> *had to
[03:02] <mustang_> not sure? is that you
[03:02] <NotWired> yessir :-)
[03:02] <mustang_> okie
[03:02] <NotWired> other machine is really pooched :-)
[03:02] <narg> Does anyone know if there are plans to package kdevelop3.4 for edgy?
[03:03] <mustang_> the revolving login screen, I also experienced
[03:03] <mustang_> let me check that
[03:03] <NotWired> woot!
[03:03] <NotWired> i can't even failsafe
[03:03] <NotWired> thank god you are here
[03:03] <anton> I want to mount my NTFS drive in kubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2707/
[03:03] <anton> that's the error I get
[03:03] <anton> What am I doing wrong?
[03:04] <anton> It's a NTFS drive I want to mount
[03:04] <osiris> did you try without the -t option ?
[03:04] <anton> yes: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/ntfs/
[03:04] <anton> didn't work
[03:05] <osiris> no without the -t ntfs part
[03:05] <anton> oh
[03:05] <osiris> i said nothing about sudo
[03:05] <anton> will try
[03:05] <anton> I thought I had to use Sudo, when mounting a drive
[03:05] <osiris> you do
[03:05] <osiris> but that in no way answered what i typed
[03:06] <shinigami> nothing much i can find in the messages
[03:06] <shinigami> except this
[03:06] <xnp> so guyes
[03:06] <shinigami> Jan 24 09:49:34 localhost kernel: [17179571.640000]  PCI: Bus #03 (-#06) is hidden behind transparent bridge #02 (-#02) (try 'pci=assign-busses')
[03:06] <shinigami> Jan 24 09:49:34 localhost kernel: [17179571.640000]  Please report the result to linux-kernel to fix this permanently
[03:06] <anton> I used "-t" as i said. ?
[03:06] <mustang_> well shucks
[03:06] <anton> It tells me i have to tell it what filesystem to mount
[03:06] <NotWired> is the shucks good or bad mustang_? :)
[03:07] <crxyem> what's the benefit of using the dvd vs cd source for installing kubuntu ?? other than the obvious that the dvd is 3.9gb
[03:07] <mustang_> osmis, I ran across the same problem as NotWired with the KDM Desktop Logon problem  He can logon but immeditally it will come back..  It will not allow him logon to KDE
[03:07] <mustang_> I can't remember what I did to fix that one
[03:07] <mustang_> lol, If I could remember it would be good
[03:07] <NotWired> none of the login options work... they all bring me back to the login screen
[03:07] <NotWired> lol
[03:07] <mustang_> i know
[03:08] <mustang_> same dang prob I had
[03:08] <mustang_> its irritating
[03:08] <NotWired> the upgrade was irritating, this is fine
[03:08] <osiris> anton add something like this to fstab
[03:08] <NotWired> i'm learning so it's all good
[03:08] <osiris> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:09] <mustang_> i know if you do ctrl/alt/F1 it will take you to shell where you can do startkde and get in
[03:09] <mustang_> I would almost bet on it
[03:09] <anton> osiris: thanks i'll try that
[03:09] <NotWired> no, startkde won't bring up X
[03:09] <mustang_> what about startx
[03:09] <NotWired> nope... i need to be root to run that
[03:09] <shadowhywind> Is anyone around that could help me with my vpn. I have my server and client connect. But i am trying to use the internet on the server side to surf with on the client side. any ideas?
[03:09] <osiris> anton, it might be easier to copy an entry in fssab, and just make the neccessary changes
[03:09] <mustang_> what about startkdm
[03:10] <NotWired> i can sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:10] <NotWired> let me try startkdm
[03:10] <mustang_> ok
[03:10] <NotWired> no such command
[03:10] <mustang_> hmmm
[03:10] <Jucato> startkde
[03:10] <anton> osiris: And what does that mean? :)
[03:11] <osiris> adjust the mount points and drive designations as necessary
[03:11] <osiris> my example used hda1
[03:11] <NotWired> startkde says it can't contact kdeinit
[03:11] <anton> ok, I'll look for fstab
[03:12] <osiris> anton, its in /etc
[03:12] <mustang_> that sounds like an entry in init.d is missing for kde
[03:12] <mustang_> let me find my init.d file
[03:13] <NotWired> init.d is a folder
[03:13] <osiris> no, it sounds like his startup script is wrong
[03:13] <osiris> check /etc/inittab
[03:13] <NotWired> okay
[03:13] <NotWired> for what?
[03:13] <mustang_> right
[03:13] <osiris> hell, try changing your run level from 2 to 3
[03:13] <osiris> or 3 to 2
[03:14] <osiris> i dont know what you have set to load on each run level
[03:14] <osiris> for me, RL2 is boot to cli
[03:14] <osiris> RL3 is boot to gui
[03:14] <NotWired> okay
[03:14] <NotWired> it was 2 and i switch to 3
[03:14] <NotWired> reboot now?
[03:14] <osiris> yes
[03:14] <NotWired> k, thanks
[03:14] <osiris> or init 3
[03:14] <osiris> i think
[03:15] <osiris> sudo init3
[03:15] <osiris> something like that
[03:15] <NotWired> i've rebooted
[03:15] <NotWired> i'll see shortly
[03:15] <mustang_> ok
[03:16] <NotWired> ut oh, that returned gdm to the scene
[03:17] <osiris> well, change it back to 2 then
[03:17] <NotWired> done
[03:17] <oracle> is this working?
[03:17] <NotWired> do you know what packages has the kde startup scripts?
[03:17] <mustang_> ok, whats the verdect
[03:17] <NotWired> i can try to reinstall that
[03:18] <mustang_> try apt-get install xfree86
[03:18] <NotWired> no mustang_, not good
[03:18] <mustang_> im listening
[03:18] <NotWired> xfree86 is still a valid package?
[03:18] <mustang_> one sec
[03:18] <NotWired> i thought it was replaced
[03:18] <mustang_> i think your right
[03:18] <NotWired> i reinstalled xserver-xorg thought
[03:18] <NotWired> *though
[03:20] <mustang_> im short on solutions
[03:20] <Livedifferent> If I were to get rid of GRUB, how would I do it? Without a floppy or Windows Install CD?
[03:20] <mustang_> I can't find xfree86 now...probabally like you said, out of date
[03:20] <NotWired> okay, thanks mustang_
[03:20] <NotWired> i appreciate it
[03:21] <mustang_> its no problem... We didn't get very far
[03:21] <NotWired> sort of progress :-)
[03:21] <NotWired> i'm going to see if there is a kde channel
[03:21] <shinigami> hi i've plugged a thumbdrive into kubuntu..after that i try to plug into windows and it says device driver not found?
[03:22] <crxyem> so what is the diference between the dvd vs the cd iso's for install
[03:22] <mustang_> sweet.  Take it easy and good luck
[03:22] <crxyem> shingami, did you format the thumbdrive when you were using it in linux ??
[03:23] <shinigami> noi
[03:24] <shinigami> no..icopiednsome mp3 in only
[03:24] <shinigami> maybe i did not unmount before pulling out
[03:25] <crxyem> should be a big deal if you didn't unmount it
[03:25] <crxyem>    so what is the diference between the dvd vs the cd iso's for install
[03:26] <anton> I've mounted my NTFS drive, but I can't acces it. I get this errormsg: "bash: cd: ntfs/: Permission denied" What do I have to do, so I can access it?
[03:26] <Jucato> DVD contains much more software, has both the Live CD and text based installer
[03:27] <shinigami> ok...did i spoiled my thumbdrive?
[03:27] <shinigami> sigh
[03:27] <shinigami> only linux can read it now
[03:27] <crxyem> I don't think you have spoiled it per say, I ue mine in both win and linux systems
[03:28] <crxyem> well live cd and text editor two things I like
[03:28] <shinigami> are there like some driver files inside the thumbdrive that i could have deleted? i saw a lost+found folder in the drive but i deleted it
[03:29] <crxyem> are you sure you didn't format the drive ext3 when you were using it ??
[03:29] <anton> Does anyone know, why I can't access the NTFS I just mounted?
[03:29] <anton> How do I set the permissions, so that I can access it?
[03:30] <Jucato> !ntfs
[03:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:30] <stdin> hey everyone :)
[03:30] <anton> thanks
[03:31] <shinigami> ok..how i check for the file system of the thumb?
[03:31] <anton> !ntfs-3g
[03:31] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:31] <anton> !fuse
[03:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:31] <anton> hmm, I don't want to write to the disc
[03:31] <anton> just read
[03:31] <juano_> help anyone i cant make a windows machine connect fine  with an ubuntu machine, they connect fine both machines browse the network , except after 30 minutes or so in windows i only see my pc in the network neighborhood and in ubuntu i cant browse hte network at all, except i can always do \\linuxpcname from windows and \\windowspcname from linux and browse fine. the problem is in network places, after 30 minutes icons wont appear
[03:31] <anton> i have it mounted, i just don't have permission to change directory to it
[03:32] <stdin> anton: you need a umask then
[03:33] <anton> aha..
[03:33] <stdin> anton: how did you mount it? from fstab?
[03:33] <anton> stdin: from bash
[03:33] <scott__> hello all
[03:33] <anton> how do I do that umask- thing?
[03:34] <intelikey> could i trubble one person to do#  grep bin/killall /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list                   form please ?
[03:34] <stdin> anton: just use the same command as normal but add "-o umask=0000" to the end of it
[03:35] <anton> stdin: you mean I have to type that on the same line after "mount ... ..." ?
[03:35] <intelikey> anton yes   or put it in your fstab
[03:35] <anton> ok, thanks
[03:35] <HymnToLife> stdin, umask 000 seems a bad idea to me...
[03:35] <crxyem> anton , that's correct but you should set -o umask=0777
[03:36] <stdin> HymnToLife: a dmask would be better
[03:36] <intelikey> HymnToLife depends on whether it's a desktop with one user or a server with lots of users.
[03:36] <anton> ok, thanks, i'll try it now.
[03:36] <mattp1984> hey whats up
[03:36] <mattp1984> i have a quick probably easy to answer question
[03:37] <mattp1984> any of you use EasyUbuntu
[03:37] <HymnToLife> intelikey, even so, better be safe than sorry
[03:37] <intelikey> "<crxyem> anton , that's correct but you should set -o umask=0777"  <<< restrict access to none ?
[03:37] <HymnToLife> that's a funny idea too :p
[03:37] <stdin> intelikey: "sysvutils: sbin/killall5" and "psmisc: usr/bin/killall"
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> mattp1984: it's best not to use it, there's nothing that can't be gotten without it
[03:37] <intelikey> thank you stdin
[03:38] <stdin> yw :)
[03:38] <HymnToLife> anton, do uid=1000,umask=0022
[03:38] <mattp1984> why is it best not to use it?
[03:38] <dawn> ok I am confused about xorg.conf
[03:38] <HymnToLife> dawn, just ask your question
[03:38] <anton> the umask 0000 worked. What does the uid=1000 mean?
[03:38] <stdin> mattp1984: nope, and I _don't_ recommend you do either, it can lead to a damaged system
[03:38] <dawn> I ran the  $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and my settings are not sticking
[03:38] <anton> I want the drive to be read only
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> short answer, it's evil.  long answer, it's evil, not supported, and it can cause a lot of problems
[03:39] <dawn> it always reverts back to 800x600
[03:39] <HymnToLife> anton, umask=0000 means _everyone_ has write access to it
[03:39] <dawn> I have a nvidia geforce series 6 card
[03:39] <anton> oh ok :o
[03:39] <dawn> and a nice widescreen monitor
[03:39] <intelikey> anton then mount it  ro,umask=000  would be good
[03:39] <stdin> anton: the "uid=1000" means that the 1st user setup on the system will "own" the files/dirs
[03:39] <HymnToLife> uid=1000,umask=0022 means you have write access and everyone else has read-only access
[03:39] <anton> HymnToLife: I don't have to use "-r" for readonly when doing the mount?
[03:39] <dawn> would it safe to say that maybe the settings are too high initially? so it reverts back to 800x600
[03:40] <HymnToLife> if you want to mount it read only, you should use it
[03:40] <anton> ok, thanks.
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that all depends on what you're setting the resolution to
[03:40] <HymnToLife> or add ro to the mount options, it's the same thing
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> crt?  lcd?  max resolution of the monitor?
[03:40] <dawn> 1280x1024
[03:40] <crxyem> whoops got my umask and permissions confused
[03:40] <intelikey> yep
[03:41] <dawn> lcd, 1680 x 1050
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> so 16:9
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[03:41] <dawn> i reinstalled nvidia-glx as well
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm :(
[03:41] <dawn> then went thru the config settings
[03:42] <intelikey> ok updated glibc err libc6      rebooting
[03:42] <dawn> i tried the widescreen setting in system settings, monitor and display
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> this is going to sound retarded, but...  did you restart X?
[03:43] <dawn> haha
[03:43] <dawn> yes silly man
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> bottom up approach to tech supprt
[03:43] <dawn> multiple times
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> half the time i forget the simplest parts.
[03:43] <dawn> i agree, I do that with windoze all the time
[03:44] <dawn> is it plugged in? did you hit the power button? is the monitor pluged in? blah...blah...blah...
[03:44] <anton> This is what my command looks like: sudo mount -t ntfs -r /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs/ -o uid=1000, umask=0022 Something's wrong with it, but I don't know what.
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i've got no experience with widescreen displays, except to say i have no idea why it shouldn't work
[03:44] <dawn> it does work
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you want to go in and manually add it into xorg.conf
[03:45] <dawn> for some strange reasons the settings are not sticking
[03:45] <dawn> i tied that as well once
[03:45] <mattp1984> svn: Berkeley DB error while opening 'nodes' table for filesystem /home/svn/repos/easyubuntu/db:
[03:45] <mattp1984> Cannot allocate memory
[03:45] <mattp1984> svn: bdb: Unable to allocate memory for transaction detail
[03:45] <mattp1984> anyone know what that means
[03:45] <dawn> I can go in and delete it if I have to as root
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now you've really exhausted every option i can think of :\
[03:45] <anton> stdin: can you see what I'm doing wrong?
[03:46] <dawn> <----isn't exhausted...not by a long shot
[03:46] <dawn> lol
[03:46] <stdin> anton: no spaces after the commas
[03:46] <anton> ok
[03:46] <intelikey> yeah means there is not enough ram marked as free mattp1984
[03:46] <mattp1984> thats what i thought
[03:46] <mattp1984> i have been using suse for years, just installed kubuntu today, first time user
[03:47] <dawn> welcome
[03:47] <anton> stdin: oh thanks you, wonderfull. Thanks to HymnToLife too, and any other who helped me. If i add this line to fstab, it will mount it on boot, right?
[03:47] <mattp1984> i cant possibly be using all my ram, got any ideas why it is saying i am out of ram
[03:47] <intelikey> you have my sympathy
[03:47] <stdin> anton: and you don't actually need the "-r" as ntfs is mounted read only antway :)
[03:47] <anton> ok
[03:47] <anton> and it will work fine if i put it into fstab too?
[03:48] <stdin> anton: the line you want is "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs/ ntfs auto,uid=1000,umask=0022 0 0" in fstab to make it mount on boot
[03:48] <intelikey> mattp1984 too much allocated out by other things.   also of note, that error is irrelevent of swap space.
[03:48] <anton> wow, thanks a lot :)
[03:48] <stdin> no problem :)
[03:49] <soulrider> hello
[03:49] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[03:49] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:49] <soulrider> !botsnack
[03:49] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:49] <intelikey> only thing that i've had do me that way was gimp   trying to open a 1m tiff file.   needed 600+m of free ram.
[03:49] <shadowhywind> is anyone around that can help with vpn?
[03:51] <soulrider> shadowhywind: vpn ?
[03:51] <shadowhywind> i have openvpn installed, and i am correctly connected to my server, but i want to use the internet from the server and can't figure out
[03:52] <intelikey> errr actually no.  it wasn't gimp  it was paul.   i didn't even try gimp on it.
[03:54] <mattp1984> so does anyone know anything about that memory problem i am having
[03:54] <intelikey> mattp1984 try to use a different app on it
[03:55] <padlefot> how do I make programs autostart with the KDE login?
[03:55] <padlefot> i use gdm btw
[03:56] <intelikey> dm is irrelevent,  you link them in ~/.kde/autostart/    or what ever the name of the dir is.
[03:56] <Jucato> !autostart
[03:56] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:56] <intelikey> ya big A
[04:00] <intelikey> mattp1984 that error seems to be a bad system call in one of the libs   it's trying to allocate ram  but doesn't request that other things be swapped out to make enough free ram.    i don't know any more than that.    file a bug with the app and use something else until it's fixed.
[04:01] <dawn> ok I have it setup for 1280x1024
[04:01] <dawn> those settings are sticking for now
[04:01] <dawn> and I do see the nvidia splashscreen load so..
[04:05] <intelikey> Kr4t05 mind changing your part/quit message, it's disrespectful and breaks the code of conduct for the channel.
[04:05] <Kr4t05> intelikey: I apologize, it's not a permantly set quit message.
[04:06] <Kr4t05> And, for the record, go suck your CoC.
[04:06] <soulrider> hi intelikey
[04:06] <intelikey> soulrider
[04:08] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to copy an *.so file to the FFplugin, but I can see the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins file but i can't copy the *.so plugin to it ...what is required here ?
[04:09] <stdin> BluesKaj: how are you trying to copy it ?
[04:09] <HymnToLife> BluesKaj, sudo
[04:09] <HymnToLife> !sudo | BluesKaj
[04:09] <ubotu> BluesKaj: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:09] <intelikey> BluesKaj permission to write to the dir is the requirement.   rather than change the perms.  the normal way is to do the cp as root.
[04:10] <soulrider> anyone lnow what sudo stands for ?
[04:10] <sparr> Super User DO
[04:10] <soulrider> ah, i thought so
[04:10] <Jucato> afaik, it's Switch User DO
[04:10] <Jucato> like su = Switch User
[04:10] <intelikey> soulrider on that kind of Q man command   generally answers it correctly  :)
[04:10] <stdin> su = switch user, sudo is super user do
[04:11] <Jucato> man sudo: sudo, sudoedit - execute a command as another user <-- not necessarily always super user
[04:11] <sparr> Jucato: i have different man sudo
[04:11] <Jucato> it's like su, if you don't give another user name, it defaults to root
[04:11] <sparr>  su - change user ID or become super-user
[04:11] <Jucato> hm.. weird
[04:12] <sparr> man pages arent entirely standardized
[04:12] <sparr> esp between linux and bsd
[04:12] <soulrider> sudo - a definition from Whatis.comSudo (superuser do)
[04:12] <intelikey> sparr that's the man su you posted
[04:12] <soulrider> gogole gave me that
[04:12] <sparr> intelikey: ahh, my bad
[04:12] <Jucato> soulrider: in this case, I would trust man more then Google...
[04:13] <BluesKaj> err where do i do this ... trying sudo /usr/lib/firefox/plugins in the run box but ...nothing
[04:13] <sparr>  sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser or
[04:13] <sparr>        another user, as specified in the sudoers file
[04:13] <Jucato> but anyway, stdin is right :P
[04:13] <stdin> http://www.sudo.ws/ (official website afaik) says "Sudo (superuser do)"
[04:13] <Jucato> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sudo.html
[04:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj you left out the command.  "cp"
[04:13] <Jucato> :)
[04:13] <sparr> http://sudo.ws/
[04:13] <sparr> damn you
[04:13] <sparr> beat me to it  :)
[04:13] <soulrider> lol
[04:13] <intelikey> sudo cp blah to/blah
[04:13] <sparr> whats with you weirdos adding "www."?
[04:14] <Jucato> what's with you weirdos not using copy-paste?
[04:14] <soulrider> lol
[04:14] <soulrider> i never use www
[04:14] <stdin> heh
[04:14] <Jucato> or highlight-middle click? :P
[04:14] <sparr> i used copy-paste
[04:14] <soulrider> i like middle click
[04:14] <Jucato> I used copy-middle click
[04:15] <Jucato> lol
[04:15] <intelikey> i highlight right click  :)
[04:15] <intelikey> console   :)
[04:15] <Jucato> heh
[04:15] <Jucato> CLI fread
[04:15] <Jucato> freak
[04:15] <BluesKaj> intelikey, i tried copypaste middle click ...nothing
[04:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj i told you.
[04:15] <intelikey> sudo cp blah to/blah
[04:16] <intelikey> you had left out "cp"
[04:16] <intelikey> kdesu if you run that someplace that you can't see the output of the sudo
[04:16] <intelikey> kdesu cp blah to/blah
[04:17] <stdin> kdesu is for gut apps
[04:17] <Jucato> ??
[04:17] <Jucato> kdesu cp?? :O
[04:17] <BluesKaj> the blah to blah is what i wanted to know ...never assume with newbs ok :)
[04:17] <intelikey> yes it will open an xwindow for the password and then execute the command
[04:18] <intelikey> BluesKaj blah=the file to be copied   and to/blah=the destination to copy to
[04:18] <BluesKaj> yup ok , gonna try that
[04:19] <intelikey> trying sudo /usr/lib/firefox/plugins in the run box but ...nothing <<<<  so you would do#   kdesu cp <the_file_name_here> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:20] <intelikey> in the "run" box.     use sudo in the konsole for the same string.
[04:21] <intelikey> do i talk in cyrcles ?
[04:22] <intelikey> or is it just kriptik ?
[04:22] <stdin> no, you talk in cylinders
[04:22] <intelikey> and blocks
[04:22] <intelikey> :)
[04:23] <BluesKaj> yeah, but apt doesn't see the file ..doesn't exist
[04:24] <BluesKaj> "curses curses foiled agian "
[04:24] <intelikey> apt ?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> err sorry the terminal
[04:25] <intelikey> cd Desktop
[04:25] <intelikey> and look
[04:25] <stdin> use ls
[04:25] <stdin> ls = list
[04:25] <BluesKaj> it's in the /home dir
[04:25] <intelikey> no it's not  :)
[04:26] <stdin> in /home, or $HOME ? :P
[04:26] <intelikey> ls = list ?      i thought it meand  Look and See  :)
[04:27] <stdin> man page says "ls - list directory contents" :)
[04:28] <stdin> well, I'm a pedantic so-and-so
[04:29] <BluesKaj> it's in the /home/kaj dir
[04:29] <BluesKaj> dunno what $HOME is
[04:30] <stdin> BluesKaj: $HOME is a variable, it stored the path to your home directory
[04:30] <intelikey> for you $HOME=/home/kaj    so then     cd       and you will be there.         "if you arent already"
[04:30] <Jucato> $HOME = ~ = /home/<current_user>
[04:30] <stdin> $HOME = where the heart is
[04:30] <stdin> :P
[04:30] <intelikey> Jucato no  some users are not based in /home
[04:31] <intelikey> root seldom is.   i never am.
[04:31] <mxwlpxwl> hello allz
[04:31] <Jucato> intelikey: it's the usual/normal setup
[04:31] <Jucato> root user isn't enabled, you are not usual/normal
[04:31] <mxwlpxwl> i am having trouble with apt-get install libk3b2-mp3....but i believe i have the correct repositories
[04:32] <intelikey> but a default kubuntu      sudo echo $HOME
[04:32] <BluesKaj> well I know I am in /home as far the terminal is concerned
[04:32] <intelikey> err maybe -i that.
[04:32] <intelikey> then cd and you will be in /home/kaj
[04:34] <intelikey> and the prompt will probably show the tild symbol as your path    "~" == "$HOME"
[04:34] <BluesKaj> intelikey, i think the problem is the file is in a folder in the home dir
[04:34] <intelikey> loop
[04:34] <stdin> find ~ -name "*.so"
[04:35] <intelikey> yes and did you look in the  ~/Desktop    like i mentioned half an hour ago BluesKaj ?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> trying to get it to into the FFplugin setup to play yup, not there
[04:35] <BluesKaj> err  not on the desktop
[04:36] <AHinMaine> I found a page on the ubuntu wiki about how to compile from a deb src package, but I just can't find it again... could anyone help me out?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> cp: cannot stat `file:///home/kaj/octoprogram-L03-N00-U00_0606300_900/liboctoshape.so': No such file or directory ...yet I'm looking right at it
[04:38] <stdin> BluesKaj: take off the "file://" part
[04:40] <BluesKaj> it's also balking at the word 'to"
[04:41] <stdin> what is the exact command you are using ?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> ok it copied , but the file is "locked"
[04:42] <flaccid__> whois flaccid-
[04:42] <flaccid__> oops
[04:43] <stdin> BluesKaj: "sudo chmod 644 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/liboctoshape.so" should fix it
[04:44] <xenoterracide> anyone know what file I set dns servers in?
[04:45] <stdin> xenoterracide: /etc/resolv.conf
[04:45] <BluesKaj> cool stdin , thx ..now we'll see if it actually works :P
[04:45] <xenoterracide> dolt
[04:45] <xenoterracide> thx
[04:45] <xenoterracide> I new that
[04:45] <xenoterracide> just couldn't think of it
[04:46] <AHinMaine> anyone know how to compile from a source package?
[04:46] <flaccid__> !make
[04:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:47] <draik> I think that I may have screwed up my Kubuntu partition
[04:47] <draik> Now that I log in, I get the error message that it could not start tty, so I get a prompt to ramfs
[04:47] <draik> or something similar
[04:48] <AHinMaine> i don't mean a regular source tarball, I mean how do I create a binary package of my own from a deb-src.
[04:49] <AHinMaine> i saw it earlier today on the wiki, but tonight I've been digging for almost an hour and I can't find the damn page...
[04:51] <intelikey> AHinMaine i would say look through your history  but if you've been plunking around there that long....
[04:51] <AHinMaine> history is on a different machine that I can't access from here.
[04:52] <saki> alright! I seem to have killed my sound system!
[04:52] <intelikey> draik sounds like you need to determine whether it's ramfs prompt or a bash prompt   then we can help
[04:52] <intelikey> saki good job.
[04:53] <intelikey> ^5
[04:53] <stdin> AHinMaine: only thing I can find is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics
[04:53] <draik> intelikey: ramfs
[04:53] <draik> I can't get a bash
[04:53] <draik> Let me reboot and then I will tell you what it says. I have a laptop that is ALL kubuntu
[04:54] <draik> intelikey: Give me one moment
[04:54] <intelikey> draik ok.  then may i sujest you boot the live CD and fsck the root partition
[04:54] <draik> I'm on the live cd now
[04:54] <saki> !audio
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <draik> intelikey: I was fsck'ing the partition and it asked if I wanted to fix inodes... I just kept saying "y"
[04:55] <draik> intelikey: Do you think that by doing that I may have caused an issue?
[04:55] <intelikey> yes
[04:55] <draik> great. Just great
[04:55] <AHinMaine> crud.  it was like a 4 step process to take a regular source package and roll your own binary package from that...   arg...  just install kubuntu on my laptop but I can't get claws-mail installed because of version hassles...
[04:55] <intelikey> what fs is it ?   ext3 ?
[04:56] <draik> ext3
[04:56] <saki> Alright, Kubuntu seems not to like my sound card or something...I'm running a Creative SBLive!
[04:56] <intelikey> draik  sudo fdisk -l     and pastebin.ca the output
[04:56] <saki> I have both ALSA and OSS installed
[04:56] <intelikey> !sound | saki      been there ?
[04:56] <ubotu> saki      been there ?: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:57] <saki> nope not yet?
[04:58] <AHinMaine> bleh...  finally....  just noticed that they have their own ubuntu repository right at claws-mail.org...  doh!
[04:59] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/326509
[04:59] <draik> intelikey: ^^
[05:01] <intelikey> that's saying you have four swap partitions, is that correct ?
[05:01] <saki> okay anyone know how to tell kubuntu not to use a sound card and to use the other one?
[05:01] <saki> its trying to use my on board sound, and not the SB card
[05:01] <saki> but it installed both of them
[05:01] <saki> >_>
[05:01] <draik> intelikey: shouldn't be. Should only be 1
[05:02] <intelikey> saki maybe someone in #ubuntu
[05:02] <intelikey> draik i was afraid you would say that.
[05:02] <elyon225> Could someone please help me out with my sound?  It's very staticy.  I've tried ALSA and OSS drivers... any other suggestions?
[05:02] <draik> intelikey: and now I'm afraid you don't have an answer
[05:02] <intelikey> draik can you off the top of your head tell me what your mountpoints used to look like.
[05:03] <intelikey> like so many G /  so many /home so many /var ...   ?
[05:03] <saki> Elyon, It sounds like its hardwar
[05:03] <saki> hardware*
[05:03] <draik> intelikey: hda1 is WinXP... hda5 is SWAP.... hda6 is Kubuntu...
[05:03] <saki> have you tried your speakers on another sound card/computer?
[05:03] <draik> intelikey: AFAIK
[05:03] <elyon225> saki: Any way to fix that?
[05:03] <intelikey> k
[05:04] <elyon225> saki: Oh, my speakers work perfectly.  A lot of the sounds/mp3 here sound fine.
[05:04] <Pupeno> Where's that old nice script that used iptables -save and -restore that one would put in /etc/init.d/iptables
[05:04] <Pupeno> ?
[05:04] <intelikey> draik issue this command in a konsole #   sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media
[05:05] <draik> intelikey: I have it in /mnt. Is that ok?
[05:05] <intelikey> yes
[05:05] <draik> ok
[05:05] <intelikey> draik do # cat /mnt/etc/fstab
[05:05] <intelikey> pastebin that for me
[05:05] <draik> intelikey: No such file or directory
[05:06] <intelikey> ok# sudo umount /mnt /mnt/*
[05:06] <draik> intelikey: Ok. Everything comes up with "not found".
[05:07] <intelikey> there is a /mnt  is there not ?
[05:07] <draik> yes
[05:07] <intelikey> ls /mnt
[05:07] <intelikey> should be blank return
[05:08] <draik> correct
[05:08] <strife> what is better kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:08] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[05:08] <draik> ok
[05:08] <stdin> strife: depends on what you like, gnome or kde
[05:08] <intelikey> strife they are the same,  one comes with kde the other with gnome.
[05:09] <intelikey> packages come out of the same box though
[05:09] <strife> no difference in compatibility for networking?
[05:09] <intelikey> strife no
[05:09] <stdin> strife: nope, they both use the same core packages
[05:10] <strife> awesome thanks guys
[05:10] <intelikey> now one app may work better at dfecting hardware than another.
[05:10] <draik> strife, where are you located?
[05:10] <intelikey> detecting even
[05:10] <strife> Canada
[05:10] <intelikey> draik you get lost ?
[05:11] <draik> strife: think of this as a car. Which do you prefer, Lexus or Toyota? Nissan or Inifinity? Honda or Acura? Its all the same thing under the hood, just a matter of the look
[05:11] <intelikey> draik # ls /mnt
[05:12] <draik> intelikey: lost?
[05:12] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I did ls /mnt. Now what?
[05:12] <intelikey> anything there ?
[05:12] <strife> yeah but kde seems to have more cool packages available....
[05:12] <draik> intelikey: Yes. Just my backups of a video I was placing together and my old backups
[05:13] <intelikey> ok you can # sudo umount /mnt
[05:13] <stdin> strife: better analogy is, "Which do you prefer, a blue car or a red car" :)
[05:13] <strife> blue
[05:13] <kaatil> i have question.. how to set gdm display manager as default?
[05:13] <seven11> somebody know how to open .chm files
[05:14] <draik> intelikey: Ok. umount done
[05:14] <intelikey> draik one more time# sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt && mount | grep dev/hda6
[05:14] <puskom> test
[05:14] <stdin> strife: all the packages are available on both, you can use KDE packages on gnome and vice-versa
[05:14] <intelikey> puskom
[05:14] <Revo> hehehehe
[05:15] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I get     /dev/hda6 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)
[05:15] <intelikey> draik # ls /mnt
[05:15] <draik> ok
[05:15] <draik> no /etc
[05:15] <Revo> katrook
[05:15] <stdin> kaatil: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should let you choose, if not you need to edit "/etc/X11/default-display-manager" and change "/usr/bin/kdm" to "/usr/bin/gdm"
[05:16] <intelikey> well it's probably in lost+found draik
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <kaatil> thank you stdin. :)
[05:16] <intelikey> draik # ls /mnt/lost+found
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <stdin> yw :)
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <Revo> katrooook
[05:16] <garryb> that sounds like a new kde application
[05:16] <garryb> btw, eating our screen does not make you cool
[05:16] <intelikey> revo stop it.
[05:17] <saki> anyone here know anything about how kubuntu handles sound?
[05:17] <Revo> katrooook
[05:17] <Revo> katrooook
[05:17] <Revo> katrooook
[05:17] <Revo> katroooo.......ooooook
[05:17] <draik> intelikey: Ok. Not in there. It's all just a bunch of numbers #11158095
[05:17] <intelikey> draik one of them blue ?
[05:18] <draik> alot of them are
[05:18] <intelikey> draik ls -l /mnt/lost+found     and pastebin.ca the output
[05:19] <intelikey> i'll see if i can find it for you.
[05:20] <draik> it's longer than I can scroll
[05:20] <intelikey> draik ls -l /mnt/lost+found | less     and pastebin.ca the output
[05:20] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/326528
[05:20] <intelikey> then you can scroll it.
[05:20] <intelikey> wait
[05:20] <intelikey> draik lets try dirrect.
[05:21] <elyon225> Okay, in an effort to fix my staticy sound, I've removed my PCI sound card and switched to the onboard (which I have enabled in my BIOS).  But now I don't have any sound.  Do I need to reconfigure my sound driver or something?
[05:21] <intelikey> draik  ls -l /mnt/lost+found /mnt > info.txt
[05:21] <intelikey> and /dcc send intelikey info.txt
[05:22] <intelikey> !sound | elyon225
[05:22] <ubotu> elyon225: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:22] <garryb> one time i removed my soudn card while the computer was on
[05:23] <garryb> it's acted a little funny ever since
[05:23] <DBO> that was silly
[05:23] <intelikey> i've changed ps2 mice while running.... doesn't always work so good.
[05:23] <elyon225> garryb: lol nice.
[05:24] <garryb> ps2 mice are finicky but generally won't destroy your computer
[05:24] <draik> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/326540
[05:25] <dethklok> Whoo, upgrade to edgy!
[05:25] <intelikey> ok now give that dirrect connect thing one shot for me. draik
[05:26] <intelikey> if your nick is registered
[05:26] <draik> nick is reg'd
[05:26] <draik> how do I do it direct?
[05:26] <intelikey> draik  ls -l /mnt/lost+found /mnt > info.txt
[05:26] <intelikey> and /dcc send intelikey info.txt
[05:26] <draik> I did
[05:26] <draik> ok
[05:27] <draik> ok
[05:30] <intelikey> draik did something hang ?
[05:30] <draik> sending it again
[05:30] <draik> I got a timeout
[05:30] <intelikey> change the name first
[05:30] <draik> huh?
[05:30] <draik> file name?
[05:30] <intelikey> maybe info.txt was a bad file name.
[05:31] <draik> nope
[05:31] <intelikey> my client acted funny about it.
[05:31] <dethklok> how long does apt-get upgrade usually take on a brand new install or edgy? (all respitores uncommented)
[05:31] <intelikey> try file.txt
[05:31] <draik> ok.
[05:31] <elyon225> intelikey: I went through the debugging steps to install the proper module, but I'm being given a "Permission Denied" error when trying to save the settings (and running speaker-test doesn't work)
[05:32] <intelikey> elyon225 have to do that as root.
[05:32] <intelikey> !sudo | elyon225
[05:32] <ubotu> elyon225: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <elyon225> intelikey: Can't just use sudo?  Because running as sudo still gave me that error.
[05:33] <intelikey> draik ok  -:- DCC Unable to open /usr/local/src/dcc/file.txt
[05:33] <elyon225> sudo echo options [module-name]  [module-options]  >> /etc/modprobe.d/[module-name] 
[05:33] <elyon225> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/[module-name] : Permission denied
[05:33] <intelikey> you can kill that i'll use the info you pasted and see what i can determine.
[05:33] <draik> killed
[05:34] <stdin> elyon225: yeah, that won't work. use "sudo -i" to get a root shell first
[05:34] <intelikey> elyon225 you have to inturpret  [module-options]  and [module-name] 
[05:34] <elyon225> stdin: Perhaps the step by step instructions should say so ;)
[05:34] <intelikey> also ^
[05:34] <stdin> intelikey: redirects don't work with sudo tho
[05:35] <stdin> elyon225: I'll let the document team know :)
[05:35] <intelikey> redirrect does work with sudo  echo blah | sudo tee filename
[05:35] <stdin> intelikey: that's not a redirect tho
[05:35] <intelikey> echo something | sudo tee -a /test.1
[05:36] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/326528
[05:37] <draik> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/326540
[05:37] <elyon225> hmm... so running it as root went fine (no output), but now when I try running speaker-test, it kept repeating "Device or resource busy" ... then proceeded with the test and still nothing.
[05:37] <elyon225> KMix shows the correct device, so does aplay.
[05:37] <dethklok> Is there a openoffice program I can use to make a pie graph??
[05:38] <draik> intelikey: any luck?
[05:39] <dethklok> Is there a openoffice program I can use to make a pie graph??
[05:39] <BluesKaj> nite folks ...sacktime here , take care
[05:39] <^Rolled> Calc should be able to make pie chartws
[05:40] <dethklok> ^Rolled, K, I'll take a look thanks
[05:41] <^Rolled> dethklok: Insert -> Chart
[05:41] <intelikey> draik still working on it.
[05:41] <adamwest> guys, my system hangs whenever i logout :\
[05:42] <elyon225> adamwest: I'm guessing you have an ATI card?
[05:42] <garryb> adamwest: i have an identical problem.  do you have a dell laptop?
[05:42] <^Rolled> Are there additional repositories for kubuntu?  I would like to install Firefox
[05:42] <garryb> elyon225: i have the same problem with Intel video
[05:42] <adamwest> no ATI no laptop.
[05:42] <elyon225> ^Rolled: Firefox is in the main reps.
[05:43] <^Rolled> what method do I use to install?
[05:43] <intelikey> draik had a thought.#  find /mnt/lost+found/ -name fstab
[05:43] <elyon225> ^Rolled: You can use Adept or apt-get.
[05:43] <adamwest> it hangs whenever i logout and if i restart it's this weird login instead of the normal one
[05:43] <elyon225> ^Rolled: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:43] <jeff_> I've got a weird issue with Xinerama on a box with 2 video cards.  I'm getting X to span across 2 LCD monitors, but for some reason, the second monitor isn't running at 1280x1024, even though they are both specified that way in xorg.conf.
[05:43] <intelikey> draik see if that pulls up pay dirt
[05:44] <^Rolled> Does Adept do package updates?
[05:44] <draik> nope.
[05:44] <draik> blank
[05:44] <elyon225> ^Rolled: Adept is also your update manager... it checks for updates whenever you logon.
[05:44] <stdin> ^Rolled: yeah, adept does
[05:44] <elyon225> ^Rolled: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[05:44] <stdin> ^Rolled: and the package for firefox is "firefox" not "mozilla-firefox" :)
[05:44] <elyon225> stdin: You sure? lol
[05:45] <stdin> elyon225: yep, totally sure :)
[05:45] <stdin> !info firefox
[05:45] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB
[05:45] <elyon225> !info mozilla-firefox
[05:45] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 112 kB
[05:45] <elyon225> :)
[05:45] <^Rolled> I see firefox .. however it is grey'd out... perhaps I will just use apt-get
[05:45] <intelikey> draik that's what i was afraid of.  that fs is really hosed.     what happened is it didn't read the dirrectory correctly so it chucked it in lost+found then all the stuff in /etc had no dir so it all got moved to lost+found     a real knight mare  to sort it all out.
[05:46] <elyon225> stdin: Seems I was still half right ;)
[05:46] <intelikey> draik what does /mnt/home   look like ?
[05:46] <draik> good. /home is ok
[05:46] <elyon225> So, does anyone have any ideas on why I have no sound?
[05:47] <draik> elyon225: reboot. Worked for me
[05:47] <elyon225> Wait... lemme make sure I have the speakers plugged into the right place ;)
[05:47] <mefisto__> is there any way to set gwenview to sort by date by default when it's browsing folders?
[05:47] <stdin> elyon225: is the test you are using uses oss, then you'll need to kill artsd first
[05:47] <elyon225> stdin: Should I just try rebooting?
[05:47] <intelikey> draik you can save anything out of home to that other partition  (if it's big enough)  and reload.  will be faster/easier than sorting out lost /etc dir  with all it's componants scattered
[05:48] <stdin> elyon225: you could, but artsd will start at login, it should, however auto-suspend after some time to allow oss usage
[05:48] <draik> 63GB on /home. 40-sum left on other HDD
[05:48] <intelikey> i'd rather work with a broken fs in your case than the fixed one you have.
[05:49] <elyon225> stdin: I don't know what driver the tests use.  I used KDE to set it to AutoDetect... and I don't know what speaker-test uses.
[05:49] <intelikey> draik you didn't backup /etc did you ?
[05:49] <draik> nope
[05:49] <intelikey> figures.
[05:49] <draik> WAIT
[05:49] <stdin> elyon225: it normally uses ALSA
[05:49] <draik> what's in /etc that I need?
[05:49] <intelikey> everything
[05:49] <elyon225> stdin: Well, I changed to ALSA in KDE and started up a game... still no sound.
[05:49] <stdin> elyon225: and arts will run on top of that
[05:49] <draik> ok...
[05:50] <intelikey> fstab startup scripts cnfigurations for everything.
[05:50] <stdin> elyon225: what game? the game may use oss
[05:50] <draik> hmmm...
[05:50] <elyon225> stdin: Neverball... but the speaker-test doesn't work either, and you said that uses ALSA?
[05:50] <draik> my friend has a very similar install that I do...
[05:51] <draik> can I sshd into his desktop right now and get them all?
[05:51] <stdin> elyon225: yeah, it should use ALSA by default
[05:51] <elyon225> stdin: And Amarok when set to ALSA doesn't work either.
[05:51] <intelikey> there are three dirs you don't just "fix" maybe four   /etc  /lib  /var   and  /usr   the /usr because that's where most all data is.  but the others cause they are essential  /*bin you might just copy someone elses binarries into  but those three are unique
[05:51] <elyon225> I do get a lot of errors when running speaker-test, though... about the device being busy.
[05:52] <draik> so no, huh?
[05:52] <intelikey> so no.
[05:52] <intelikey> sorry.
[05:53] <draik> me too
[05:53] <^Rolled> Wow .. Adept is pretty snazzy .. multiple streams of downloading of updates
[05:54] <intelikey> draik i hate it for you.  but one good thing out of it.  you get to consolidate those four swap partitions  and also devide your installation  i.e. make /home a seperate partition so this don't cause such a headach if it ever happens again.
[05:54] <draik> i suppose
[05:55] <elyon225> unbelievable!
[05:55] <ubuntu_> hola
[05:55] <stdin> elyon225: heh, you'll be happy to know that the instructions on the help page have now been updated :P
[05:56] <elyon225> So I search the forums for my problem and another guy with the same chipset said he had to plug his speakers into line out, not speakers.   Guess what... I have sound now lol
[05:56] <ubuntu_> alguien de ecuador???
[05:56] <elyon225> stdin: Excellent :)
[05:56] <dethklok> OMG, apt upgrade is taking forever!!!
[05:56] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:56] <dethklok> if I end it will it mess anything up?
[05:56] <elyon225> ...HOWEVER... the sound is still staticy.  So it's not a hardware issue.
[05:56] <intelikey> the system  /  only needs about 4g  6g is safe  the rest for /home   then you have a sort of failsafe in the event.   also  if you does tar -czf $HOME/etc.tar.gz /etc   about once a month they can recover from such   i would sujest that for /etc and var  but clear the cache and logs befor you backup var
[05:57] <bonbonthejon> did 3.5.6 get released today
[05:57] <ubuntu_> some body told me
[05:57] <ubuntu_> please
[05:57] <bonbonthejon> what do you need ubuntu_
[05:58] <ubuntu_> i like run xgl or berly in kubuntu
[05:58] <bonbonthejon> !xgl
[05:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:59] <xp9542> I'm having trouble writing to my newly mounted drive as a user, I basically installed a new hard drive formatted it as fat32, and then added the following: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage	vfat	rw,user	0	0 to my fstab file, but I can't write to the drive unless I act as route
[05:59] <ubuntu_> thanks!!!
[06:00] <xp9542> anyone know how I can get user permissions to the drive? I tried chmod 777 on the folder as root, but that didn't really help
[06:00] <ubuntu_> where are you from???
[06:00] <elyon225> Okay, I've ruled out a hardware issue for my sound having so much static noise.  Anyone else have any ideas?  I've tried using both OSS and ALSA.
[06:00] <ubuntu_> Im from ecuador
[06:00] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: Ohio, USA
[06:01] <ubuntu_> i dont speak english very well
[06:01] <ubuntu_> but i understand you
[06:01] <intelikey> draik /mnt/lost+found/4669655 might have been, probably was etc at one time.
[06:01] <ubuntu_> thanks a millon
[06:01] <dethklok> ubuntu_, where you from?
[06:01] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: thats good, there are also spanish language channels
[06:01] <stdin> ubuntu_: is spanish your language ?
[06:02] <ubuntu_> yes
[06:02] <stdin> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:02] <stdin> spanish channels ^^ :)
[06:02] <intelikey> if it wasn't now empty you could have just moved it to# sudo mv /mnt/lost+found/4669655 /mnt/etc
[06:02] <draik> intelikey: Would I be able to root the /mnt so that I can get all the packages that were installed?
[06:02] <ubuntu_> es que es mucho mas chevere en ingles, por que asi aprendo mucho mas su idioma
[06:03] <ubuntu_> gracias de todo modos
[06:03] <stdin> xp9542: is the partition mounted at boot ?
[06:03] <intelikey> draik explain ?
[06:03] <dethklok> Lol, I work at mc d's and pretty much everybody there is mexican so I can't understand any of them half the time.. lol
[06:03] <intelikey> root the /mnt ?
[06:03] <draik> I want to get a list of all my installed apps/pkgs
[06:03] <draik> yes!
[06:03] <mshade_> xp9542: add the option:  umask=0000
[06:04] <Jucato> dpkg --get-selections
[06:04] <draik> Hey there Jucato
[06:04] <stdin> mshade_: very unsafe option there
[06:04] <Jucato> hi draik!! :)
[06:04] <intelikey> ok.  ls -1 /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/*.list | sort -u > installed_packages.list
[06:04] <draik> Jucato: :( I lost my Kubuntu... LiveCD
[06:04] <intelikey> draik ^
[06:05] <dethklok> Jucato! this is tehpwn (I had to reregister or what ever)
[06:05] <draik> no such file or directory
[06:05] <Jucato> draik:  :((
[06:06] <Jucato> intelikey: won't "dpkg --get-selections" work as well?
[06:06] <julio> windows sucks!!!!
[06:06] <intelikey> draik i left out a subdir.
[06:06] <draik> oh
[06:06] <elyon225> Well, I think I found a solution for my staticy sound... I turned the volume in the offending programs all the way up and boom...fixed.
[06:06] <intelikey> ls -1 /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | sort -u > installed_packages.list
[06:06] <mshade_> stdin: if he's on a single user machine, what's the risk?
[06:06] <intelikey> draik that should work ^
[06:06] <draik> ok
[06:07] <stdin> mshade_: because it make every file executable
[06:07] <intelikey> Jucato the root fs was hosed  etc is scattered all over lost+found
[06:07] <Jucato> intelikey: oh..
[06:08] <intelikey> i don't know what all else is in lost+found so not taking chances running things in there
[06:08] <mshade_> stdin: so then 0111 ? ;)
[06:08] <stdin> mshade_: nope, because then he won't be able to cd in to any dir :P
[06:08] <mshade_> stdin: true.
[06:09] <intelikey> stdin mshade_ and whoever else.    dmask=000,fmask=111
[06:09] <mshade_> intelikey: nice.
[06:10] <stdin> I would have said dmask=000,fmask=113 would be better
[06:10] <mshade_> never seen the dmask option
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ive seen it.. never used it
[06:10] <draik> intelikey: I don't suppose you would know how to make Kubuntu burn on a Dual Layer DVD with a Dual Layer burner, would you?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Heh - i got a DL dvd burner.. but never tried it with DL disks yet.. the disks are too much $$
[06:11] <Dr_willis> k3b cant handle dl disks?
[06:11] <intelikey> draik no sorry.   i'm still playing with cdr  havent graduated to dvd yet
[06:11] <draik> Dr_willis: Seems that way. I tried and told me incorrect media
[06:11] <Dr_willis> could also be some updates to the cdrecord/other tools needed.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> may want to check the k3b homepage/forums ?
[06:12] <intelikey> Dr_willis also of note that's on the liveCD
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with the kubuntu live cd much. :)
[06:12] <xp9542> I'm having trouble writing to my newly mounted drive as a user, I basically installed a new hard drive formatted it as fat32, and then added the following: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage	vfat	defaults	0	0 to my fstab file, but I can't write to the drive unless I act as route
[06:12] <Dr_willis> i dont even have one here. to use.. heh
[06:13] <Dr_willis> xp9542,  you need to use the umask and perhaps some other options
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:13] <Dr_willis> has some info.. and theres some other urls also worth reading
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !vfat
[06:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:14] <xp9542> thanks dr willis i'll check it out
[06:14] <intelikey> xp9542  sed 's/defaults/fmask=111,dmask=000,user,users/'  that line
[06:14] <intelikey> daz all you need to did.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> yea - replace 'defaults' with  user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> is what that command intelikey  said.. does.. :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> or perhaps ya may read those docs and find some other options you want to use.
[06:15] <intelikey> actually i said     fmask=111,dmask=000,user,users
[06:16] <intelikey> not that it make a hill of potatos
[06:16] <Dr_willis> i just pasted what the web site suggested. :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> im not sure that 'user,users' makes sence...  i forget what the diff is. :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> not sure that 'user,auto' makes sence either. :)
[06:17] <xp9542> dr willis, i tried making the changes it now reads: /media/storage	vfat	user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 but after trying mount -a I still get the permission denied error.
[06:17] <intelikey> one sets ownership and the other gives permission to mount   so you don't need root
[06:17] <Dr_willis> you did umount it first?
[06:17] <xp9542> ** /dev/hdb1	/media/storage	vfat	user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000	0	0
[06:17] <Dr_willis> then you remount it.
[06:17] <kaatil> question... after i edited xorg.conf, how do i update xorg.conf? or do i just restart xserver for it to be updated?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> if you edited it.. you did chage it.. restart the X server
[06:18] <intelikey> restart X
[06:18] <kaatil> ok thanks
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Hope ya made a backup... just in case. :)
[06:18] <kaatil> heh thanks
[06:18] <intelikey> safty is no fun
[06:18] <intelikey> go commando
[06:19] <intelikey> go balistic
[06:19] <xp9542> dr willis, thanks a lot I was forgetting to umount after every mount.
[06:19] <Admiral_Homework> that's what i do
[06:21] <Dr_willis> disgusting
[06:21] <Dr_willis> dident we have this DIScussion once befor?
[06:21] <intelikey> yeah i think so.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <intelikey> dislexic conversation anyway.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Lexcisic
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Lexdisic
[06:22] <intelikey> oh yeah   sorry my mad
[06:23] <intelikey> by mad
[06:23] <intelikey> krap now you got me doing it.
[06:23] <xp9542> Dr_Willis, one last thing I got a ntfs partition and I wanted to copy all the files from that over into my fat32 partition is there a quick command to do that, I tried cp /media/ntfs /media/fat32 but that doesnt seem to be right
[06:24] <Dr_willis> xp9542,  id cheat and install 'mc' and use it. :)
[06:24] <intelikey> cp -a
[06:24] <Dr_willis> yea - i was thinking cp -a , but ive rarely used that.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I like the progess dialog of mc.
[06:24] <intelikey> me too
[06:24] <Dr_willis> actually  you sure you want ALL the files?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> no windows swap files, or other cruft is there?
[06:25] <intelikey> pagefiles ?
[06:25] <xp9542> naw theres no windows files on it, was just a storage drive that was formatted as ntfs so its all just doucments and files, i want to convert the ntfs over back to fat32 after so I can get around worrying about ntfs-3g and all that
[06:25] <dope> where can i find an activity log for a specific user account?
[06:26] <xp9542> perfect -a made all the difference thanks interlikey
[06:26] <intelikey> dope unless you have some logging function installed you wont.
[06:26] <intelikey> xp9542 np
[06:26] <dope> waht!@?$
[06:26] <dope> i thought there was an activity log
[06:27] <intelikey> dope you can look in their  ~/.bash_history   but that's about it.
[06:27] <intelikey> if ther use ssh that's generally logged
[06:27] <dope> dammit
[06:27] <intelikey>  /var/log/*   auth* for the ssh stuff
[06:28] <dope> well it's not ssh :/
[06:28] <intelikey> dope there are logging apps that you can have init run at startup. that will track 'almost' all activity  but they are not default.
[06:29] <intelikey> kde may have a logging function built in  but i have never looked for it.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> not that i am aware of.
[06:30] <kaatil> hmm xserver refuse to start up even though i want to delete some section like wacom tablet(so i can get photoshop to work).
[06:30] <kaatil> i am not familiar with xorg.conf though.
[06:31] <intelikey> note.  it is considered a security breach if you log "all" activities.    and in many cases and places illeagle.
[06:32] <dethklok> !ndiswrapper | dethklok
[06:32] <stdin> kaatil: did you remove the parts in " Section "ServerLayout" " too ?
[06:32] <ubotu> dethklok: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:33] <^Rolled> I am really enjoying adept.  It's a very nice app.
[06:33] <intelikey> some love it some hate it.    i'm more of a hater....
[06:33] <kaatil> ah... i see it.. thanks stdin
[06:33] <stdin> kaatil: :)
[06:34] <intelikey> mad hatter ?
[06:34] <stdin> I hate adept
[06:34] <dethklok> wtf, FF keeps crashing
[06:34] <mal> what's a simple way to record source file version changes... like in eclipse, but without using a full blown IDE
[06:34] <kaatil> okay be right back.. restarting xserver. *mutter* :)
[06:34] <intelikey> yes that's why it's so much better than konqeror dethklok
[06:34] <noiesmo> dethklok, is that firefox if so did you add plugins like flash
[06:35] <dethklok> noiesmo, yes
[06:35] <dethklok> and im on ndiswrapper wiki.. no flash
[06:35] <^Rolled> It's a fairly nice graphical package manager .. what's your issue with Adept?
[06:35] <noiesmo> dethklok, hmmm you on edgy 32bit or 64bit
[06:36] <dethklok> 32
[06:36] <intelikey> ^Rolled mine ?
[06:36] <stdin> adept is nice, if you like it simple and featureless :P
[06:36] <dawn> can ubuntu open .sh file extensions?
[06:36] <noiesmo> dethklok, you will have to remove flash to stop firefox from crashing how did you install flash
[06:36] <^Rolled> It's friendly .. that isn't always bad
[06:37] <intelikey> it requires X .
[06:37] <kaatil> okay it work.. photoshop work well.. thanks stdin :)
[06:37] <stdin> dawn: they are shell script, you run them in konsole
[06:37] <stdin> kaatil: no problem :)
[06:37] <^Rolled> hehe .. well not everyone is going to be able to use apt right off the bat
[06:37] <intelikey> dawn short answer.  yes
[06:37] <dawn> stdin, I know that] 
[06:37] <dawn> but isn;t there a pre command?
[06:37] <intelikey> sh file.sh
[06:38] <stdin> or "./file.sh
[06:38] <stdin> (without the ) :P
[06:38] <intelikey> or set the permission executable  then  ./file.sh
[06:38] <dethklok> anybody know the respiratory off hand for ndiswrapper?
[06:38] <stdin> or "cat file.sh | sh"
[06:38] <Dr_willis> bash whatvber.sh - may be needed for some badly written ones. :)
[06:38] <stdin> dethklok: it'll be in restricted probably
[06:38] <dethklok> noiesmo, automatic install
[06:38] <intelikey> or . file.sh   for that matter
[06:38] <intelikey> !ndiswrapper
[06:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:39] <intelikey> !info ndiswrapper
[06:39] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know
[06:39] <dethklok> stdin, i have all of them uncommented... but apt-cache search isnt finding it
[06:39] <Tido> kaatil: you can make photoshop run in kubuntu?
[06:39] <intelikey> hmm it dont exist
[06:39] <kaatil> yes tido
[06:39] <Tido> what version?
[06:39] <kaatil> 5
[06:39] <dethklok> nevermind, i got it.. its' ndiswrapper-utils
[06:39] <kaatil> :3
[06:39] <stdin> !find ndiswrapper
[06:39] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 4 others)
[06:39] <Tido> oh
[06:39] <kaatil> it oldest photoshop in existence. lol
[06:40] <kaatil> just kidding.. shrug
[06:40] <dethklok> stdin, yeah got it allready but thx
[06:40] <kaatil> i dunno how old is version 5 anyway
[06:40] <Tido> very old
[06:40] <kaatil> what about yours, tido?
[06:40] <Tido> cs2
[06:40] <kaatil> ah
[06:40] <Tido> 5 was...late 90s
[06:40] <Tido> like 98
[06:40] <noiesmo> dethklok, hmmm I would go here download and then untar put sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/  http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[06:40] <kaatil> if your does not work.. maybe it is because of wacom tablet in xorg.conf.. i dunno.
[06:41] <Tido> I had read people could get older versions of ps to work, but the newer ones are pretty tricky
[06:41] <kaatil> i just removed wacom tablets so photoshop 5 work fine
[06:41] <kaatil> ah
[06:41] <noiesmo> dethklok, I have flash 9 from the above url and no probs at all
[06:41] <stdin> dethklok: ndiswrapper is in the kernel image, as a module
[06:42] <intelikey> in restricted isn't it ?
[06:42] <dawn> ok here is the complete file in its compressed state
[06:42] <dawn> CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: ndiswrapper ?
[06:43] <kaatil> to be honest.. it my first time i ever edited xorg.conf.. phew...
[06:43] <intelikey> i don't have it and i don't have restricted enabled
[06:43] <kaatil> at least i did try anyway :)
[06:43] <dawn> there is .sh file inside uit for a printer driver
[06:43] <intelikey> stdin yes.
[06:43] <Tido> nothing a backup won't save, kaatil :p
[06:43] <kaatil> heh
[06:43] <noiesmo> dethklok, you should be able to modprobe ndiswrapper and you might want ndiswrapper-utils
[06:43] <stdin> intelikey: nope, it's in the "linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic" package here
[06:44] <dethklok> noiesmo, already got it installed :-D
[06:44] <intelikey> stdin hmmm that's edgy   dapper here i think maybe they changed it.
[06:44] <dethklok> (ndiswrapper)
[06:44] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, it was/is separate in dapper
[06:45] <dethklok> ight, I'm stuck though... i just did sudo rmmod bcm43xx and now i get no connection info in iwconfig
[06:45] <noiesmo> dethklok, so yuo need the windows drivers then you do sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver.inf
[06:45] <dethklok> noiesmo, already have the driver installed
[06:45] <dethklok> dethklok@metal:~/SP23107A$ ndiswrapper -l
[06:45] <dethklok> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:45] <dethklok> bcmwl5a driver present, hardware present
[06:46] <julius> hola, alguien me puede decir como iniciar secion en kubuntu como super usuario (root)????????
[06:46] <noiesmo> dethklok, iwconfig -a
[06:47] <Admiral_Homework> !es | julius
[06:47] <noiesmo> dethklok, ifconfig -a
[06:47] <ubotu> julius: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:47] <intelikey> stdin oh wait.  it was in the kernel package i forgot i removed it.
[06:47] <noiesmo> dethklok, does your card show
[06:47] <intelikey> sorry.
[06:47] <dethklok> dethklok@metal:~/SP23107A$ iwconfig -a
[06:47] <dethklok> -a        No such devic
[06:47] <dethklok> noiesmo, nah im not seeing it
 dethklok, ifconfig -a  <<<>>><dethklok> dethklok@metal:~/SP23107A$ iwconfig -a
[06:48] <intelikey> hehhe
[06:48] <dethklok> omfg, FF crashed again :(
[06:48] <garryb> julio: sudo bash   y ponga pass
[06:48] <dethklok> intelikey, huh?
[06:48] <noiesmo> intelikey, k
[06:49] <^Rolled> I've got a bit of a problem and I am curious if anyone can reproduce it.   When I go into sharing in system settings and I go to file sharing when I enter administrator mode everying remains grey'd out.
[06:49] <dawn> ok ok got this far
[06:49] <intelikey> dethklok last time i checked   f != w
[06:49] <dawn> can I paste 4 lines?
[06:49] <dethklok> noiesmo, so what u got next for me?
[06:49] <sparr> is there a 64-bit version of kubuntu?  notably, with a 64bit kernel on the cd
[06:49] <intelikey> sure      you can get yelled at too tho
[06:49] <dawn> lol
[06:50] <dawn> thats why I was asking
[06:50] <dethklok> intelikey, you cant yell via text ;)
[06:50] <dethklok> !pastebin | dawn
[06:50] <ubotu> dawn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <intelikey> YES I CAN !
[06:50] <noiesmo> dethklok, not much sorry I had an old dlink pcmcia card and the ndiswrapper worked it showed up in ifconfig- a then i set it with iwconfig wlan0 ip etc sorry
[06:50] <sparr> i prefer rafb.net/paste
[06:51] <intelikey> pastebin.ca   works for me
[06:51] <garryb> when I used IRC 10 years ago we only dreamed of things like pastebins
[06:51] <dethklok> noiesmo, crap... well i know it works.. i have had it working before... i just dont remember the steps i took
[06:51] <Tido> sparr: yeah there's a 64 bit version
[06:51] <dethklok> garryb, why not just open a private channel?
[06:51] <noiesmo> dethklok, bugger google is your friend even maybe check out some gentoo docs might help
[06:51] <Tido> sparr: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:52] <dawn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2721/
[06:52] <dethklok> noiesmo, mmkay, thanks for trying to help :-D
[06:52] <garryb> we used privmsg
[06:52] <intelikey> we have them
[06:52] <intelikey> !pm
[06:52] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[06:52] <dawn> test | dawn
[06:53] <intelikey> no  /msg dawn something
[06:53] <noiesmo> dethklok, np
[06:53] <sparr> thanks Tido
[06:54] <dawn> (sparr:)   no I was wondering how you get it to say a persons screename like that
[06:54] <sparr> dawn: type it?
[06:54] <sparr> dee, ay, double-u, enn, colon
[06:54] <dawn> no it shows as red with a colon behind the name
[06:54] <intelikey> !bot | dawn
[06:54] <ubotu> dawn: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:54] <dawn> oh so you just type it?
[06:54] <dwidmann> !tab
[06:54] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:55] <sparr> dawn: your client automagically does that when you type nameCOLON
[06:55] <dawn> hmmm
[06:55] <sparr> mine does it for me when someone says MY name  :)
[06:55] <intelikey> sparr doesn't need : for most
[06:55] <sparr> Tido: any pointers on problems i might encounter?  never done 'the 64 bit thing' before
[06:55] <dawn> ubotu: test
[06:55] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:55] <dawn> lol
[06:55] <Tido> well
[06:56] <Tido> the only one I can think of is anything you get as a binary
[06:56] <dwidmann> 64-bit works well
[06:56] <sparr> ubotu: botsnack
[06:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:56] <Tido> like firefox plugins
[06:56] <Tido> otherwise, all should be fine
[06:56] <sparr> binary firefox plugins?  surely you jest
[06:56] <Tido> was thinking I had a problem with flash on 64
[06:56] <sparr> the only thing i plan to get in binary is opera and nvidia drivers
[06:56] <dwidmann> With regards to 64-bit linux, I've actually been working on a script to smooth a few things over
[06:56] <intelikey> sparr wine doesn't work in k8 mode   also a few other things that you can only use in a chroot or vmware env
[06:56] <Tido> you should be fine
[06:56] <dwidmann> http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64/index.php
[06:57] <Tido> so kde4 won't be in the next release?
[06:57] <sparr> wine could be a problem...
[06:58] <dwidmann> sparr: not really
[06:58] <sparr> if it doesnt work, i mean
[06:58] <dethklok> OMFG! damn firefox
[06:58] <stdin> Tido: kde4 is a long time off yet, tho you can get it in edgy now
[06:58] <Tido> ah I'll wait :P
[06:58] <sparr> bah @ kde4.  i still remember when the last big KDE/Qt update hosed my debian box
[06:59] <Eruantalon> stdin: do you know whats keeping it?
[06:59] <dwidmann> when was that sparr?
[06:59] <sparr> wake up one morning and apt-get dist-upgrade...  "9000 packages to be upgraded, 1000 to be removed"
[06:59] <sparr> dwidmann: i dunno, maybe a year and a half ago?
[06:59] <dwidmann> 9000 :O
[06:59] <intelikey> dwidmann why adobe ?  xpdf / kpdf not work for you in k8 ?
[06:59] <sparr> 9000 is stretching it a bit...  at least 2000
[07:00] <dwidmann> they work fine intelikey, just some people are picky that way.
[07:00] <sparr> im picky the other way.  fuck adobe, kpdf all the way.
[07:00] <stdin> Eruantalon: kde4? it's not been that long since work on it started, and there is a *lot* of code to rewrite/clean up
[07:00] <sparr> i use ghostview in windows to avoid adobe
[07:00] <dwidmann> I use kpdf as well
[07:00] <garryb> KPDF is the work of Godly beings
[07:00] <dope> is there a command i can run that'll rescan for all my partitions and automatically mount them?
[07:01] <DBO> sparr, please try to keep the swearing to a bare minimum
[07:01] <Eruantalon> stdin: Ok. I suppose a good long testing period would be a good thing also....
[07:01] <sparr> im moving from debian to kubuntu for my desktop as i build my new PC...  been putting off reinstalling linux for a few months now, but dead hardware has forced my hand
[07:01] <sparr> ive never had to reinstall linux before due to age...
[07:01] <sparr> went over 2 years on that install before the hardware crapped out
[07:02] <dope> any command to rescan and mount harddrives?
[07:02] <stdin> Eruantalon: KDE4 is going to be a major overhaul of the code, there are development releases out now, so apps can be coded/ported to it, but it's not really user ready
[07:02] <sparr> mount -a
[07:03] <dawn> ok I found my solution
[07:03] <dawn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215657
[07:03] <cntb> \o keyboard model and keyboard switching missing.  keyb model grayed what op rfixes this or how alternate CD rescue fixes keyboard . annoying !
[07:04] <sparr> how can i make my right alt/ctrl keys behave like my left alt/ctrl keys for games/apps/menus/etc?
[07:04] <Eruantalon> stdin: Thats what i thought really... libraries and frameworks are done.. just the apps missing. But reconfiguring for qt4 shouldn't be that big of a deal..=?
[07:04] <dope> i set my konqueror to view detailed list but it keeps going back to icons, how do i fix that?
[07:04] <cntb> any ideas guys about keyboard model fixing ? in system settings or elsewhere ?
[07:05] <dope> k bot it
[07:05] <dope> got
[07:05] <^Rolled> and I was half way through typing out a nice answer
[07:05] <Phlosten> dope, wheres the option? i was wondering the same thing today
[07:05] <stdin> Eruantalon: it can be, and there are other things changing in kde4 too, like plasma
[07:05] <Eruantalon> ok
[07:05] <^Rolled> Settings: save view profile
[07:05] <dope> it's settings->save view profile
[07:06] <intelikey> script....
[07:06] <intelikey> for Q in `fdisk -l 2>/dev/null | grep -e '^/' | cut -d' ' -f1 | cut -d/ -f3` ;do mkdir /media/$Q 2>/dev/null ;mount /dev/$Q /media/$Q ;done
[07:06] <Phlosten> easy, i hadnt bothered to look yet
[07:06] <Eruantalon> cntb: Look in system settings under region and language
[07:07] <intelikey> you can sudo that thar ^ if ya want things mounted in /media   ...
[07:07] <intelikey> mounts partitions only.
[07:08] <^Rolled> whats the name of the OS port of realplayer?
[07:08] <intelikey> and if they are M$ then you probably wont have user permissions for but to read.
[07:08] <Phlosten> ^Rolled: Helix?
[07:08] <Eruantalon> ^Rolled: helic
[07:08] <Eruantalon> x
[07:08] <dethklok> i cant find any cool themes... suggestions?
[07:08] <^Rolled> Thanks
[07:09] <intelikey> dethklok icewm ?
[07:09] <dope> dethklown!
[07:09] <stdin> !theme | dethklok
[07:09] <ubotu> dethklok: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:09] <^Rolled> Not in adept ... 8(
[07:09] <stdin> dethklok: kde-look.org is a good place to look
[07:09] <dethklok> intelikey, icewm.. what?
[07:10] <^Rolled> kde-look is nice .. sort by most popular .. you will find a lot of good stuff
[07:10] <Eruantalon> ^Rolled: Why do you want it. As far as i know it doesn't eve nsupport rm files....
[07:10] <Phlosten> ^Rolled: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/helix-player
[07:10] <dethklok> Oh, I know where to look for themes... :-p I just cant find any that I like and was asking what you guys use and like...
[07:10] <intelikey> he said cool i figured icewm   cause ice and cool kinda go water and cube dont they....
[07:10] <Phlosten> i've never had much success with Helix
[07:10] <^Rolled> Hrm... why didn't I see it then
[07:10] <Phlosten> ^Rolled: its in universe
[07:10] <^Rolled> ahh
[07:11] <^Rolled> I haven't turned that repo on
[07:11] <Phlosten> that would explain that then :)
[07:11] <intelikey> well what are you waiting for... turn that repo on.
[07:11] <mmaximuss> Helix Player does not play Real Media .rm files
[07:11] <Phlosten> lots more open source goodness including a media player that plays very little media ;)
[07:12] <stdin> ^Rolled: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[07:12] <dethklok> intelikey, dude, i srsly have no idea what your refering to when ever you talk to me.. lol
[07:12] <intelikey> vlc
[07:12] <intelikey> dethklok ok.
[07:13] <intelikey> !icewm
[07:13] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.28-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 666 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[07:13] <intelikey> dethklok it was a joke.
[07:13] <cntb> where in /etc is the setting file for keyboard model ? X11 ?
[07:13] <intelikey> cool and ice   you know.
[07:13] <dethklok> intelikey oic
[07:14] <intelikey> you take all the humour out of british humour...
[07:14] <Eruantalon> supposedly kde4 should be as fast as xfce(because of qt4(according to zack rusin)) should be kinda cool.
[07:14] <intelikey> cntb yes
[07:14] <Eruantalon> cntb: yes
[07:14] <Eruantalon> But you can change it in system settigns als
[07:15] <intelikey> cntb /etc/X11/xorg.cong   and  /etc/X11/xkb/*
[07:15] <dethklok> Anybody here that wants to help with wireless?
[07:15] <cntb> tyvm intelikey
[07:16] <intelikey> cntb but you deal yourself a short hand if you don't use  kmenu > system > ....     or just run   kcontrol   and set it in there.
[07:16] <cntb> intelikey: how can Ifix in rescue mode in guided script missing keyboard model and keyboard languge switching
[07:17] <cntb> kcontrol intelikey trying that
[07:17] <dethklok> just wondering, is there a way to check your resolution via the konsole?
[07:18] <jimmy> Wondering how I can add japanese fonts to OpenOffice 2?
[07:19] <MotorCityMadMan> how can i ck if the kernel has enabled a packet socket ?
[07:26] <jordo23> If I have Konversation begin when I login, How can it begin Minimized to the system tray?
[07:27] <cntb> ok in kcontrolkeyboard layout is grayed what to do ?
[07:30] <dethklok> Lol, there is like, nobody helping anybody...
[07:30] <firecrotch> Hey dethklok, did you get your system back up and running normally?
[07:31] <dethklok> firecrotch, i installed edgy, but I can't find anybody that can help me with my wireless
[07:31] <firecrotch> What's wrong with it? Not connecting?
[07:32] <dethklok> Well, I know it works... but I just don't recall how we got it working before
[07:32] <dethklok> I have already used ndiswrapper to install the driver, and it shows that both the driver and hardware are present
[07:34] <dethklok> !wireless
[07:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:34] <firecrotch> Are you using wlassistant or KNetworkManager?
[07:36] <dethklok> firecrotch, eh, neither?
[07:36] <firecrotch> So how are you trying to connect to your network?
[07:37] <dethklok> firecrotch, well, i havent yet... because i know i cant until it lights up
[07:37] <dethklok> and it shows up in ifconfig
[07:37] <dethklok> which its not
[07:38] <firecrotch> You have an internal wireless card, right?
[07:38] <verve> firecrotch, haha
[07:38] <verve> nice nick
[07:38] <firecrotch> heh, thanks, verve
[07:38] <dethklok> firecrotchm eh yeah, pci
[07:39] <firecrotch> So the card appears to not be there at all?
[07:39] <dethklok> correct
[07:39] <firecrotch> But you have it configured using ndiswrapper... weird.
[07:40] <dethklok> firecrotch, yeah i know.. it's a b*tch to set up... i have done it twice be4 but its to much for me to renember
[07:40] <firecrotch> Okay... what's the output of "sudo iwconfig" ?
[07:40] <MrWGW_Alt> good evening
[07:40] <MrWGW_Alt> I'm just setting up a Kubuntu system
[07:41] <dethklok> Opps, posting more than 3 lines... lol
[07:41] <dethklok> dethklok@metal:~$ sudo iwconfig
[07:41] <dethklok> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:41] <dethklok> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:41] <dethklok> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[07:41] <dethklok> dethklok@metal:~$
[07:41] <kaatil> spammo....
[07:41] <firecrotch> !spam
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <kaatil> heh
[07:41] <dethklok>  /ban!
[07:41] <firecrotch> Well, no botsnack for you!
[07:42] <dethklok> lol
[07:42] <Jucato> !pastebin | dethklok
[07:42] <ubotu> dethklok: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:42] <stdin> should have typed !flood
[07:42] <dethklok> Jucato, yesss i know... but if you havent noticed.... the channel isnt actice much rite now anyways :-D
[07:43] <Jucato> it's not an excuse
[07:43] <stdin> is the channel ever "actice" ?
[07:43] <stdin> :P
[07:43] <dethklok> stdin, lol :'(
[07:43] <MrWGW_Alt> hey Jucato, are you the same Jucato that was in #kde earlier?
[07:43] <firecrotch> dethklok: what about ifconfig?
[07:43] <MrWGW_Alt> I'm the guy who asked about creating icons, if so
[07:43] <Jucato> yes
[07:43] <MrWGW_Alt> if not, this converation didn't happen :-P
[07:43] <stdin> there is only one Jucato :)
[07:44] <Jucato> stdin: I have clones in my closet
[07:44] <Jucato> :)
[07:44] <MrWGW_Alt> weird, its using my alternate screen name
[07:44] <MrWGW_Alt> I just installed Kubuntu on a laptop that had a hard disk failure day before yesterday
[07:44] <MrWGW_Alt> (obviously, I had the HD replaced)
[07:44] <stdin> Jucato: I have skeletons in mine :P
[07:44] <Jucato> MrWGW_Alt: you're other (primary) nick is still logged in
[07:44] <MrWGW_Alt> whoops
[07:44] <MrWGW_Alt> ha
[07:45] <Jucato> stdin: that's ok. as long as *you* are not in the closet :)
[07:45] <MrWGW_Alt> I had heard horror stories about Linux on laptops, but its working perfectly
[07:45] <dethklok> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2724/
[07:45] <MrWGW_Alt> better than on my desktop
[07:45] <MrWGW_Alt> Stdin, are you ready to come out of the closet?
[07:45] <MrWGW_Alt> Admit it, you use Microsoft Windows as your primary OS
[07:45] <MrWGW_Alt> :-P
[07:46] <MrWGW_Alt> haha
[07:46] <cntb> jucato KDE keyboard variants  not working  in a system that had mbr boot problems where to fix ?
[07:46] <stdin> and I'd never use windows, it's too cold here
[07:46] <Jucato> stdin: which one? the first one he mentioned or the second :)
[07:46] <firecrotch> dethklok: Okay... this may sound dumb... but are you sure that the wireless card is completely plugged in all the way?
[07:46] <stdin> Jucato: not the windows one
[07:46] <Jucato> stdin: lol
[07:46] <MrWGW_Alt> oh also, the wireless card was detected automatically
[07:46] <MrWGW_Alt> this old Dell laptop is working -perfectly-
[07:46] <dethklok> firecrotch, i really dont want to reply to this.... YES!
[07:47] <MrWGW_Alt> easiest Linux install I've ever done
[07:47] <Jucato> cntb: I have o clue about keyboard variants... mine's not working either...
[07:47] <MrWGW_Alt> perfect hardware detection, perfect screen resolution
[07:47] <MrWGW_Alt> Mandriva also detected everything perfectly, but crashed at 95% completion
[07:47] <Jucato> s/o/no
[07:47] <MrWGW_Alt> and after that agony, I decided not to try it again
[07:47] <cntb> ha jucato strange bug ha
[07:48] <Jucato> cntb: annoying too. don't know what I did...
[07:48] <firecrotch> Do you know what the interface was when you were in Dapper? ath0?
[07:49] <dethklok> firecrotch, U asking me?
[07:49] <firecrotch> Sorry, yes, dethklok
[07:50] <dethklok> firecrotch, what do you mean by interface? wlan0 maybe?
[07:50] <shinigami> hi i've got a ipod..can i use it in kubuntu? seems like no itune for linux..
[07:50] <HymnToLife> !ipod | shinigami
[07:50] <ubotu> shinigami: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:50] <firecrotch> dethklok:  you can try "sudo ifup wlan0"
[07:50] <shinigami> !rockbox
[07:50] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:51] <stdin> rockbox rocks the box :)
[07:51] <HymnToLife> agreed
[07:51] <cntb> I have two system in front of me now jucato. one of htem is quite alright . so I guess I must have now the patience to investigate
[07:51] <stdin> if can play frozen bubble on my ipod, i'm happy
[07:52] <firecrotch> dethklok: Anything with that?
[07:52] <dethklok> firecrotchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2725/
[07:52] <dethklok> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2725/
[07:53] <firecrotch> dethklok: Okay, I'm just a wee bit confused here... is this a desktop with a PCI wireless card?
[07:53] <dethklok> firecrotch, yep
[07:53] <makuseru> how can i rip a CD to an ISO in kubuntu?
[07:55] <HymnToLife> makuseru, dd if=/dev/whatever of=image.iso
[07:55] <makuseru> wow, thats easy
[07:55] <khatahn> makuseru: ...or with k3b
[07:55] <makuseru> i include that "dd if="?
[07:55] <makuseru> k3b rips?
[07:55] <MrWGW_Alt> I noticed, btw, that on this Ubuntu install, the root account has no privileges
[07:55] <shinigami> how do i know my ipod is at where? i typed lsusb and found ipod..fdisk -l ?
[07:55] <MrWGW_Alt> is that a Good Idea (tm)?
[07:55] <shinigami> need to mount it
[07:56] <khatahn> makuseru: you can create an image of the cd with k3b
[07:56] <firecrotch> dethklok: Which version of ndiswrapper are you using?
[07:56] <stdin> MrWGW_Alt: root is disabled, we use sudo
[07:56] <Jucato> !sudo | MrWGW_Alt
[07:56] <ubotu> MrWGW_Alt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:56] <MrWGW_Alt> ok
[07:57] <MrWGW_Alt> I know what sudo is
[07:57] <dethklok> firecrotch, idk, what ever apt-get gave me
[07:57] <makuseru> how do i create an ISO with k3b?
[07:57] <Jucato> MrWGW_Alt: that page explains why
[07:57] <MrWGW_Alt> I've seen distros with root disabled before
[07:57] <khatahn> makuseru: tools -> copy cd -> Only create image
[07:57] <MrWGW_Alt> although frankly, with any UNIX system being used on the desktop, I think that the dangers are not excessive
[07:57] <makuseru> thanks
[07:57] <^Rolled> autofs always drives me bonkers
[07:57] <MrWGW_Alt> you're probably more at risk running as a limited user than running Linux as root
[07:57] <firecrotch> dethklok: I've read that you need to use ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[07:57] <MrWGW_Alt> running as a limited user in WIndows, sry
[07:58] <MrWGW_Alt> PC-BSD disables root
[07:58] <dethklok> ight, ill remove my current one
[07:58] <MrWGW_Alt> well, yes and no
[07:58] <MrWGW_Alt> it has flavors
[07:59] <MrWGW_Alt> and PC-BSD is essentially a "distro" of FreeBSD
[07:59] <MrWGW_Alt> but with KDE loaded by default, and other changes
[07:59] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[07:59] <MrWGW_Alt> I consider FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonflyBSD to be flavors, and implementations like NetBSD Live, PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE to be distros
[07:59] <stdin> hi [StingRay]  :)
[07:59] <MrWGW_Alt> if I'm wrong, pray explain why
[08:00] <Jucato> this is hardly the place to discuss that. feel free to hold on to what you believe is true. no contest
[08:00] <khatahn> any idea why my kaffeine doesn't display videos in correct aspect ratio? a video that _should_ be 640x480, is not as wide as it should be. the problem can be clearly seen in fullscreen mode, where there are black bars in left and right side of the screen, while the video should fill the whole (4:3) screen
[08:00] <MrWGW_Alt> well I'm not a fanatic about it jucato
[08:01] <MrWGW_Alt> if I'm being a moron in regarding PC-BSD as a distro, then, well, I don't want to regard it as a distro
[08:01] <MrWGW_Alt> I love that word "distro", btw
[08:01] <Jucato> I also may be wrong, and just base what I know on what some dev told me. but like I said, this is not the place to discuss it
[08:02] <MrWGW_Alt> ok
[08:02] <dethklok> firecrotch, it working
[08:03] <dethklok> now i just have to remember my wep key :-p
[08:03] <Jucato> kool! Flash 9 final available now! yay :)
[08:03] <MrWGW_Alt> nice
[08:03] <Jucato> !flash9
[08:03] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:04] <dethklok> firecrotch, if I recall there is some command I need to do so that it saves these settings...
[08:04] <makuseru> does anyone have the problem of flash obkects placing themselves ontop of everything on the page, so you cant see dropdown menus on the site? and if so how can i fix it?
[08:05] <Jucato> makuseru: you have a site to test it with?
[08:06] <pgdown> makuseru: a decent adblock list would block those
[08:06] <makuseru> jucato: it does it on anysite with dropdown menus, the only one i can think of offhand is gibson.com
[08:06] <HymnToLife> makuseru, ask Adobe to make a decent Flash Player for Linux
[08:06] <Jucato> dropdown menus? wouldn't that be a CSS feature, not flash?
[08:06] <makuseru> pgdown: its not an add, its flash built into the page to show things but it goes above all the dropdowns
[08:06] <makuseru> HymnToLife: youve said that before
[08:06] <pgdown> makuseru: sorry, misread what your wrote
[08:07] <Jucato> hm..
[08:07] <pgdown> yeah that's a bug
[08:07] <pgdown> ive seen it
[08:07] <makuseru> Jucato: its not a menu problem. its flash goign infront of everything
[08:07] <firecrotch> dethklok: sorry, I was in the shower
[08:07] <Jucato> not here
[08:07] <firecrotch> Good to hear that it's working
[08:07] <HymnToLife> makuseru, I don't there's anything else you can do
[08:07] <pgdown> nope
[08:07] <Jucato> makuseru: seems to be working here
[08:07] <makuseru> lol
[08:07] <pgdown> not until adobe works it out
[08:07] <makuseru> hmmm
[08:07] <makuseru> darn
[08:08] <Jucato> flash9 beta
[08:08] <dethklok> firecrotch, do you know that command that im talking about? to save these settings or whatever
[08:08] <Jucato> (currently just upgrading to flash 9 final)
[08:08] <pgdown> gibson site doesnt work for me using firefox2 & flash final
[08:09] <firecrotch> dethklok: I've seen it somewhere... let me try to find it
[08:09] <dethklok> Jucato, do you remember the command? to save the wireless settings so i dont have to redo these settings again?
[08:09] <Jucato> dethklok: I don't even know what it is...
[08:09] <pgdown> command?
[08:10] <Jucato> !flash9
[08:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:10] <pgdown> just save them in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:10] <dethklok> Jucato, humm, for some reason i thought you had helped me the other day with this...
[08:10] <Jucato> dethklok: definitely not me :)
[08:10] <firecrotch> dethklok: If I recall correctly, you just have to add them - blah pgdown beat me to it
[08:10] <Jucato> Admiral_Sleep: wake up!!
[08:10] <Jucato> Admiral_Sleep: hi :)
[08:11] <Admiral_Sleep> i am awake, supposed to be asleep but reading for class tomorrow.
[08:11] <dethklok> pgdown, how do i do that?
[08:11] <firecrotch> dethklok: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <pgdown> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <pgdown> control-x to save/exit
[08:11] <Admiral_Sleep> the chicago loco just got a planet, it's pretty sweet.
[08:11] <Admiral_Sleep> pgdown: no ctrl + o
[08:11] <pgdown> right
[08:12] <pgdown> you're from chicago?
[08:12] <Jucato> Admiral_Sleep: yeah, I saw it. you still don't have a hackergotchi
[08:12] <dethklok> WTF?
[08:12] <dethklok> dethklok@metal:~$ sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[08:12] <dethklok> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 24 11:01:55 2007
[08:12] <Jucato> uh oh...
[08:12] <firecrotch> dethklok:  Your system's date/time is set wrong
[08:12] <Jucato> try rebooting...
[08:12] <Admiral_Sleep> i mailed one to Nix but it didn't send. will do again.
[08:12] <dethklok> Jucato, but then i lose the settings
[08:13] <pgdown> whats settings?
[08:13] <Jucato> dethklok: hm... try saving whatever you need in a temporary file (owned by you)
[08:13] <Jucato> you can't do anything with sudo as long as that error persists
[08:13] <Jucato> and afaik rebooting is the only way to fix it... afaik.
[08:13] <firecrotch> dethklok: I'm assuming it all consists of commands entered at the command line? If so, you can just use the up arrow to go back to the commands that you've used
[08:14] <dethklok> firecrotch, ok, if i dont return, then well its not working :-p
[08:14] <firecrotch> Wiat
[08:14] <Jucato> too late
[08:14] <firecrotch> I noticed
[08:14] <firecrotch> All he needed was "sudo -k"
[08:14] <pgdown> haha
[08:15] <Admiral_Sleep> way to go, Jucato
[08:15] <Jucato> lol
[08:15] <Jucato> I did say afaik
[08:15] <Jucato> sorry
[08:15] <firecrotch> Jucato: no need to apologize to me
[08:15] <Admiral_Sleep> night
[08:15] <firecrotch> Night :)
[08:15] <Jucato> hehe it's afternoon here :)
[08:15] <pgdown> what's chicago loco?
[08:16] <firecrotch> Jucato: then why are you going to sleep?
[08:16] <Admiral_Sleep> chicago local community
[08:16] <Jucato> because I made a boo-boo...
[08:16] <pgdown> im from chicago
[08:16] <Jucato> :(
[08:16] <Admiral_Sleep> pgdown: iirc, i've seen you before in #ubuntu-chicago
[08:16] <Jucato> but seriously, when I had that timestamp error, rebooting fixed it... no one could tell me about sudo -k
[08:17] <cntb> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuSystemSettingsUsability jucato
[08:17] <firecrotch> I didn't know about it either until I google "timestamp too far in the future"
[08:17] <pgdown> Admiral: nope, never knew that existed
[08:17] <Admiral_Sleep> i see you use comcast in illinois
[08:17] <Admiral_Sleep> check it out
[08:17] <pgdown> sweet
[08:17] <pgdown> I live in wicker park
[08:17] <Jucato> cntb: huh?
[08:18] <Admiral_Sleep> i live near midway, but this is better suited for another channel
[08:18] <pgdown> yup
[08:19] <cntb> sorry jucato no clue yet about keyboard layout cselection grayed
[08:20] <firecrotch> #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <firecrotch> Wow that made me feel dumb
[08:21] <Jucato> yay flash 9
[08:21] <DarkWizdom> Hi. I'm trying to compile intel graphics card driver. I ran autoconf and automake. No errors where found. Then I ran ./configure, with 1 minor error (or maybe not minor :P) and now... I can't do "make", it says no makefile found. any ideas?
[08:22] <firecrotch> Hmm... I wonder what's taking dethklok so long to get back
[08:22] <pgdown> Jucato: is that the same as 9.0 r31?
[08:22] <brett> i am having trouble configuring my microphone. Can someone help me troubleshoot it please
[08:22] <Jucato> pgdown: yep
[08:22] <pgdown> k thanks
[08:23] <brett> i purchased a headset with microphone and when i talk into it I can hear it through the speakers, but when I try to record nothing gets recorded
[08:23] <Admiral_Sleep> makuseru: gonzo?
[08:23] <makuseru> whowha
[08:23] <Admiral_Sleep> yes/no ?
[08:23] <brett> ???
[08:24] <makuseru> what is the question
[08:24] <Admiral_Sleep> nevermind
[08:24] <brett> my microphone does not work. Can someone help me trouble shoot it
[08:25] <brett> i can hear myself through the speakers when i talk into it
[08:25] <pgdown> I would start with opening alsamixer
[08:25] <pgdown> maybe it's turned off
[08:25] <pgdown> open terminal & type alsamixer
[08:25] <brett> k
[08:25] <cntb> where do all kde settings reside
[08:25] <brett> it seems to be turned on
[08:25] <cntb> by Jucato
[08:26] <pgdown> like config files?
[08:26] <brett> ?
[08:26] <brett> pgdown: what do you mean config files?
[08:27] <pgdown> nevermind
[08:27] <brett> what could i try next?
[08:28] <pgdown> did you search for the make/model in the wiki?
[08:28] <pgdown> !wiki
[08:28] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[08:28] <brett> no
[08:29] <pgdown> !hardware
[08:29] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:29] <pgdown> try that link
[08:29] <brett> thanks
[08:30] <dethklok> I think I might have a bad install or edgy... When I restarted the pc it brought me to a blinking line__ and i waited for awhile and finally pushed enter then took a reallllly long time to boot up
[08:31] <dethklok> jucato, firecrotch
[08:32] <dethklok> ping!
[08:32] <dethklok> !ding
[08:32] <ubotu> ding: Graphical dictionary lookup program for Unix (Tk). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-4 (edgy), package size 87 kB, installed size 392 kB
[08:32] <dethklok> !dong
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <dethklok> !milk
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about milk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <dethklok> !cheese
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <dethklok> !potatoes
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about potatoes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <dethklok> !lordofthering
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lordofthering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <dethklok> !sausages
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sausages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <Jucato> !botabouse
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botabouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <Jucato> !botabuse
[08:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:33] <dethklok> lol
[08:33] <firecrotch> dethklok: was it doing a filesystem check?
[08:33] <Jucato> I was about to sleep. why?
[08:33] <Jucato> uh oh...
[08:34] <DBO> ubotu is not a toy
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not a toy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <DBO> doh
[08:34] <Jucato> silly bot :P
[08:35] <firecrotch> Now how am I going to help dethklok?!
[08:36] <Jucato> PM
[08:36] <Jucato> firecrotch: /msg dethlok blahblahblah
[08:37] <firecrotch> Yeah, it appears as though he's no longer logged in
[08:37] <tamacracka> Guys...
[08:37] <tamacracka> my ARK keeps crashing everytime i try to extract a .rar file
[08:37] <brett> i am thinking about returning this microphone. I think it isn't very good. Does anyone have any suggestions for a headset that will work well with linux?
[08:37] <Admiral_Sleep> tamacracka: because it doesn't support RAR
[08:37] <Admiral_Sleep> !rar
[08:37] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:37] <tamacracka> should i just restart my pc?
[08:37] <tamacracka> yes it did.
[08:38] <tamacracka> it supports both zip and rar.
[08:38] <tamacracka> when i restard X
[08:38] <tamacracka> restart*
[08:38] <tamacracka> i doesn't do anything.
[08:38] <Admiral_Sleep> did you follow the instructions on the link?
[08:39] <tamacracka> :\ it supports rar.
[08:39] <underdog5004> What's going on?
[08:39] <tamacracka> nevermind
[08:39] <tamacracka> ill just restart my PC
[08:39] <Admiral_Sleep> *not* out of the box
[08:39] <tamacracka> im used to it with windows
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <tamacracka> thanks anyways
[08:40] <underdog5004> CoC, Admiral_Sleep ?
[08:40] <Admiral_Sleep> code of conduct
[08:40] <underdog5004> ah
[08:40] <underdog5004> in regards to what?
[08:40] <HymnToLife> !coc
[08:40] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:41] <underdog5004> gotcha, reading now!
[08:41] <Admiral_Sleep> well no, i wanted to argue with the user that wouldn't listen to me
[08:42] <Admiral_Sleep> for *no* reason
[08:43] <frootstripe> ok - i just had some major problems. i changed my password (i was in a screen session in X at the time) - then i popped open another window and tried sudo su -
[08:45] <frootstripe> but i couldn't log in as root with the new password, so I used the old one instead - it worked - anyway, Alt-Ctrl-F1 and the new password worked. Restarted system.
[08:46] <xsacha> hey i stuck my iriver into usb port, how do i access it?
[08:46] <xsacha> it's being recognised as a camera or something and it's at /proc/bus/usb/005/004
[08:47] <frootstripe> so i shutdown, restarted, and now i only the old password works. hello? wtf?
[08:49] <dethklok> Wtf, why the ban?
[08:50] <dethklok> firecrotch, u still there?
[08:50] <frootstripe> Alt-Ctrl-F1, I log in as root and only the new one works - what is going on here, can anybody give me a clue??
[08:50] <firecrotch> Yeah, I'm still here, dethklok
[08:51] <firecrotch> dethklok: You got banned because you were abusing the ubotu
[08:51] <pgdown> xsacha
[08:51] <dethklok> pff, he is there to be abused! lol
[08:52] <graniti> Hi. sometimes it happens that when I launch mplayer, it creates automatically two "mplayer process" with two pids . how can I avoid this? I want only one pid
[08:52] <graniti> Hi. sometimes it happens that when I launch mplayer, it creates automatically two "mplayer process" with two pids . how can I avoid this? I want only one pid
[08:52] <dethklok> firecrotch, I don't think my computer was scanning anything.. i went through all my bios settings and nothing is out of place... i think it has something to do with thie edgy insta... cuz it even does the little blinking line thing when i boot the live cd
[08:53] <firecrotch> dethklok: Did it do it on the first boot after installing?
[08:53] <dethklok> Yeah, but i thought nothing of it
[08:54] <pgdown> xsacha - open terminal and enter mount -l - should say where your iriver is mounted. from there just drag/drop files onto it.
[08:54] <dethklok> mabye because it bypassed my brain because i had just placed the wireless card in...
[08:56] <cntb> Iwant to configure keyboards from command line
[08:58] <firecrotch> dethklok:  Obviously there is _something_ that is making it take a long time
[08:58] <dethklok> firecrotch, well ah... i kinda figured that :-pp
[08:58] <firecrotch> dethklok: pastebin your boot log
[08:59] <dethklok> where is that at?
[09:09] <pgdown> anyone try seamonkey yet?
[09:23] <firecrotch> !Beryl
[09:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:30] <xsacha> pgdown: it didnt automount it afaik.. when i click link on desktop it goes to camera://iRiver T10 @[usb:005,004] 
[09:31] <xsacha> i tried to mount it myself but it mounted to /proc/bus/usb and cut off the 005/004
[09:33] <underdog5004> !sabdfl
[09:33] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[09:34] <underdog5004> so, anyone know how to have rtorrent start on boot on a headless server?
[09:36] <underdog5004> I'm testing my internet connection, can anyone hear me?
[09:37] <MrWGW_Alt> good evening again
[09:37] <MrWGW_Alt> I've discovered that I acutely need to run as root
[09:37] <MrWGW_Alt> and I can't figure out how
[09:37] <underdog5004> MrWGW_Alt, why?
[09:37] <MrWGW_Alt> because I need to access the filesystem
[09:37] <underdog5004> to do that, first type sudo passwd root
[09:37] <underdog5004> then su to become superuser
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> I'd prefer to access the filesystem in nautilus
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> if that's possible?
[09:38] <underdog5004> I advise against it
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> or Konqueror
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> Yes, I am aware of the dangers
[09:38] <underdog5004> the superuser stuff...
[09:38] <underdog5004> ok,
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> I do it all the time
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> and yes, I have broken things ;D
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> but it was fun
[09:38] <underdog5004> famous last words
[09:38] <underdog5004> lol
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> I once fried a CRT through improper editing of xorg.conf :-P
[09:38] <underdog5004> you are having problems mounting a fs?
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> but a friend of mine gave me his, which was a better model, so I came out ahead
[09:38] <MrWGW_Alt> no
[09:39] <MrWGW_Alt> I just want to run as root and access the file system
[09:39] <underdog5004> uh...gotta ask why, again
[09:39] <MrWGW_Alt> is this some secret? I thought that this was open source software that we were supposed to hack
[09:39] <firecrotch> MrWGW_Alt: If you insist on it... "kdesu konqueror"
[09:39] <MrWGW_Alt> ok perfect
[09:39] <MrWGW_Alt> do I run that from any terminal while in KDE?
[09:40] <underdog5004> but WHY!?!? lol, yeah, from the term
[09:40] <MrWGW_Alt> ok perfect
[09:40] <MrWGW_Alt> and why? because we like you!
[09:40] <MrWGW_Alt> :-P
[09:40] <underdog5004> awww
[09:41] <firecrotch> underdog5004: now you have me wondering why...
[09:41] <underdog5004> lol, yeah...why would anyone want to run konq as root?
[09:41] <seven_11> MrWGW_Alt: you could use middnight commander
[09:41] <MrWGW_Alt> not in the mood to change file browsers, although I have heard good words about it in LXF
[09:42] <MrWGW_Alt> brb
[09:43] <dwidmann> !sudo | underdog | MrWGW_Alt
[09:43] <ubotu> underdog | MrWGW_Alt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:44] <underdog5004> dwidmann, yeah, I know
[09:45] <dwidmann> just wondering why you would recommend someone to set the root password and use su instead :s
[09:45] <MrWGW_Alt> ok perfect, seems to work
[09:46] <MrWGW_Alt> nothing like seeing the good old /proc /dev /etc
[09:47] <MrWGW_Alt> and now for the actual reason why I want to run as root with a file browser: I want to install fonts that are in a folder on a CD
[09:47] <ady33> Hi does anyone know the best version of skype to download for kubuntu?. I have seen versions for fedora and madriva but not kubuntu... tnx
[09:47] <MrWGW_Alt> and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that in Linux, true type fonts are installed simply by copying and pasting into the fonts folder
[09:47] <HymnToLife> !skype
[09:47] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:47] <MrWGW_Alt> but I don't have privileges to change that folder for some reason in my user account
[09:48] <ady33> many thanks ubotu
[09:48] <HymnToLife> !thank you | ady33
[09:48] <ubotu> ady33: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:49] <MrWGW_Alt> so now you know
[09:49] <ady33> heck clever stuff.... !!!
[09:49] <MrWGW_Alt> haha, just found the KDE font installer
[09:49] <MrWGW_Alt> so that was all a waste :-P
[09:49] <MrWGW_Alt> I couldn't find one on the GNOME Ubuntu desktop, which I had been using, hence all this
[09:50] <MrWGW_Alt> I hate GNOME
[09:50] <MrWGW_Alt> and love KDE
[09:50] <MrWGW_Alt> somewhat
[09:50] <MrWGW_Alt> actually I dislike them both
[09:50] <HymnToLife> maybe the feature was considered too confusing :p
[09:50] <MrWGW_Alt> probably
[09:51] <MrWGW_Alt> I remember Mandriva had an easy to use font installer, and it of course uses KDE
[09:51] <underdog5004> dwidmann, sorry, I was afk, but I thought that's how you invoked the root account from a command line
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> also, is there any way that I can disable Ubuntu's disabling of the root account?
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> I really find it annoying
[09:52] <underdog5004> MrWGW_Alt, sudo passwd root
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> ok
[09:52] <stdin> or install debian
[09:52] <dwidmann> MrWGW_Alt: that's half of it
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> I plan to
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> but it would be stupid on this system
[09:52] <underdog5004> oh
[09:52] <dwidmann> MrWGW_Alt: the other half is "sudo passwd -u root" I think
[09:52] <MrWGW_Alt> which I'm just admining for a relative
[09:53] <underdog5004> what does the -u flag do?
[09:53] <dwidmann> unlock
[09:53] <underdog5004> ah
[09:53] <HymnToLife> sudo passwd root should work
[09:53] <underdog5004> it worked for me on my server...
[09:53] <HymnToLife> even just sudo passwd actually :p
[09:53] <stdin> sudo passwd root is enough
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> then do I enter a new root password or somesuch? or do I just literally type "sudo passwd root"
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> ?
[09:54] <HymnToLife> you type this
[09:54] <HymnToLife> and it will prompt for the new password
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> ok
[09:54] <underdog5004> MrWGW_Alt, yup, type it in, then it'll ask for your password, then the root accounts passworkd
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> ok
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> perfect
[09:54] <MrWGW_Alt> see, I am leaving XP for Linux because of how locked down it is
[09:54] <underdog5004> yeah, xp sucks
[09:54] <dwidmann> speaking of things, when was etch released/will it be released?
[09:55] <ady33> In relation to Kontact how do I set up my news server dets?. I can see the add account for mail but not news?
[09:55] <MrWGW_Alt> so when people like the GNOME developers or whoever thought of the root account locking thing do something annoying that cripples functionality
[09:55] <dwidmann> (officially speaking)
[09:55] <MrWGW_Alt> the first thing I want to do is fix it
[09:55] <HymnToLife> dwidmann, no date fixed yet
[09:55] <MrWGW_Alt> woo, just installed 3,000+ fonts
[09:55] <dwidmann> Hmm, I hadn't looked into it for a (long) while, so I thought I'd ask
[09:55] <MrWGW_Alt> real, geniune commercial-grade fonts, not the subpar imiations most distros ship with
[09:55] <MrWGW_Alt> now, hopefully it won't destabilize my system ;)
[09:55] <underdog5004> hey!
[09:56] <underdog5004> lol
[09:56] <dwidmann> 3000+ :O
[09:56] <MrWGW_Alt> you bet, I'm a professional graphics designer (among other things)
[09:56] <MrWGW_Alt> so I have lots of fonts
[09:56] <xsacha> i'm leaving linux for vienna because there is too much choice and i can never decide
[09:56] <underdog5004> nice
[09:56] <MrWGW_Alt> not as many as I would prefer, but...
[09:56] <underdog5004> vienna?
[09:56] <MrWGW_Alt> there is this one Adobe font collection that you can buy, but it costs $9,000
[09:57] <dwidmann> Wow, if I sold my car I could ... wait, no that probably wouldn't be enough to get it
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> no, not Vienna, although I've heard of it-I think I have it on one of my systems in fact
[09:57] <HymnToLife> $9,000 for fonts is just ridiculous
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> it is rumored to have everything
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> I've asked several people at Adobe for a list of the fonts it contains
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> but no one seems to know the extent of it
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> its used only in the largest design studios
[09:57] <HymnToLife> I wonder how many of them it contains
[09:57] <dwidmann> No kidding
[09:57] <MrWGW_Alt> its the sort of ubercommercial power app of doom, like Alias StudioTools
[09:58] <MrWGW_Alt> (which costs up to $85,000, depending on your feature set)
[09:58] <ady33> Can some one help I am trying to install the debian skype. I have downloaded it and when I click on it I get three files shown. Control data and debian?
[09:58] <MrWGW_Alt> (plus yearly upgrade fees, which increase exponentially if you miss an upgrade)
[09:58] <MrWGW_Alt> Alias StudioTools has effectively imprisoned the car companies design studios
[09:58] <dwidmann> ady33: you should download the .deb file, then install it with dpkg --install filename.deb
[09:58] <MrWGW_Alt> GM has hundreds of designers, so I shudder to think how much StudioTools takes out of their bottom line each year
[09:58] <HymnToLife> ady33, to install a deb file, open your temrinal and run       sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[09:59] <MrWGW_Alt> but it can do -anything-, and as an added plus it runs on Linux
[09:59] <ady33> Do I need to be in root for that?
[09:59] <HymnToLife> that's what sudo is for
[09:59] <stdin> !deb | ady33
[09:59] <ubotu> ady33: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[09:59] <dwidmann> erm, yes, so sudo dpkg --install filename.deb
[09:59] <stdin> GUI way ^^
[10:00] <dwidmann> Bah
[10:00] <underdog5004>  simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:00] <ady33> tnx
[10:01] <dwidmann> It'd be nice if that gui actually threw in --force-architecture for me, then I'd actually use it ... seeing as the only things I download tend to be things for i386 architecture anyway
[10:01] <graniti> Hi. I have to hide the mouse cursor before launching a process... is there a way to do it? thnks
[10:02] <JackPhil> kpowersave, kde-guidance-powermanager or klaptop?
[10:02] <cntb> how to reconfigure X?
[10:03] <stdin> !xconfig
[10:03] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[10:03] <ady33> Thanks all for the help. That was the first linux install I have done and it is all setup now. Only been linux for 2 days now...
[10:07] <underdog5004> ady33, linux may take more work, but it's better in the end!
[10:08] <dwidmann> underdog5004: ady33 just left, s/he can't hear you
[10:08] <underdog5004> lol, whoops!
[10:10] <JackPhil> the  kde-guidance-powermanager is recommend rather than kpowersave?
[10:10] <dwidmann> Ah, so that's what the deal with -phigh was :\ and to think I ignored it until now ... could have save minutes and keystrokes of my life
[10:12] <dwidmann> JackPhil, I'm not really sure, try them both, see which one you like better?
[10:16] <ady33> Hi could someone tell me how to change my microphone setting in kubuntu. It is working but very quiet?
[10:16] <stdin> kmix
[10:17] <ady33> kmix?
[10:17] <stdin> use it to adjust the volume of the mic
[10:18] <ady33> found it tnx
[10:18] <stdin> np
[10:19] <cntb> how to config xorg.conf in cmdline
[10:19] <stdin> cntb: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[10:20] <cntb> ty vm stdin
[10:20] <stdin> np
[10:20] <cntb> and specifically keyboard model and layouts on reconfigure ?
[10:21] <cntb> stdin
[10:21] <stdin> yep, that's in there
[10:21] <cntb> stdin unfortunately keyboard model when trying to configure layouts in GUI is grayed
[10:22] <stdin> hmm, seems to work for me (tm)
[10:23] <underdog5004> So, I've got a dilemna. I can't run rtorrent on startup on my headless server. I don't want to run it from the server itself because although it will plug away faithfully, I have no way of checking to see what is done, and I don't want to ssh into it because then I have to leave the ssh'd client computer up as well.
[10:24] <stdin> isn't there one that had a web interface ?
[10:25] <underdog5004> idk...
[10:25] <underdog5004> nafaik
[10:26] <stdin> or you can use screen
[10:26] <underdog5004> yeah, but then I can't check it remotely
[10:26] <HymnToLife> yep, screen is definitely the way to go
[10:26] <stdin> sure you can
[10:26] <HymnToLife> yes you can, I do it all the time
[10:26] <underdog5004> !screen
[10:26] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:27] <stdin> !info torrentflux
[10:27] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 410 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[10:27] <stdin> that's the one I couldn't remember
[10:27] <Kabal> !psp
[10:27] <ubotu> psp: Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-3 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[10:28] <underdog5004> stdin, so, torrentflux...how is it different than rtorrent?
[10:28] <stdin> underdog5004: don't know, never used it :)
[10:28] <stdin> just knew there was a web based torrent app
[10:28] <cntb> stdin funny xserver-xorg did not appear installed
[10:28] <underdog5004> ok, so, good experiences w/ torrentflux?
[10:29] <cntb> maybe because tried to install repair
[10:29] <stdin> underdog5004: never used either, I've only used azureus and ktorrent
[10:29] <cntb> now installing xserver-xorg maybe that disabled some configs keyboard model for example?
[10:30] <stdin> it's possible, cntb
[10:30] <Kabal> n00bish question
[10:30] <Kabal> when I connect my psp to my laptop it mounts perfectly but I get a Ipod icon on my desktop.. how can I change that icon to a psp icon?
[10:32] <pgdown> Kabal: what icon set are you using?
[10:32] <Kabal> pgdown: dunno really.. I use Kubuntu 6.10
[10:33] <stdin> probably crystalsvg
[10:33] <pgdown> the default crystal?
[10:33] <Kabal> trying to find out
[10:33] <pgdown> well, just find the directory for the theme (not sure where it is right now) and then just copy your psp icon into the directory under the same name.
[10:34] <pgdown> same name as the ipod icon...mounted & unmounted
[10:34] <TheHermit> Good Morning Friends ....I need a program wich enable Xp to red Ext3 Filesystem
[10:34] <pgdown> that's one dirty hack
[10:34] <underdog5004> ah
[10:34] <TheHermit> read*
[10:34] <underdog5004> HymnToLife, I love you. Screen works perfectly!
[10:34] <stdin> !ext3 | TheHermit
[10:34] <ubotu> TheHermit: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:34] <Kabal> pgdown: thanx :)
[10:34] <TheHermit> stdin, Thanks
[10:34] <stdin> yw :)
[10:35] <TheHermit> ^_^
[10:35] <pgdown> I dont know where the crystal svg theme is found
[10:35] <pgdown> but one trick you could do is
[10:35] <Kabal> me neither
[10:35] <stdin>  /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg
[10:35] <pgdown> there it is
[10:35] <Kabal> thanx stdin
[10:35] <pgdown> nevermind
[10:37] <cntb> stdin what is a keyboard variant ?
[10:37] <cntb> I found comma there ?
[10:37] <pgdown> Kabal: if you cant find an svg for psp, I know from experience that you can take a .png and just rename it as a .svg...& it'll work
[10:38] <Kabal> pgdown: great tip! :)
[10:38] <Kabal> pgdown: thanx :)
[10:38] <stdin> cntb: it's a variant from the standard, I just left it blank (i think)
[10:39] <pgdown> it worked when I was running ubuntu gnome (edgy) and wanted to change the ubuntu logo to a gnome foot I made
[10:39] <pgdown> so I imagine it'll work in kde as well...
[10:39] <crazy_bus> I don't remember doing anything but now the "computer" icon on the kde bar is on the left side.  And the main KDE logo is an inch to the right.  Can anyone help get it back to where it was?
[10:40] <TheHermit> !permisions
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <pgdown> crazy_bus: just right click, move, lock
[10:40] <visik7> how can I play video podcasts on kde ? (kitty crash)
[10:40] <animimotus> Hi
[10:41] <cntb> ty vm again stdin
[10:41] <crazy_bus> pgdown, I can see lock but not move?
[10:41] <underdog5004> !permissions
[10:41] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:41] <stdin> cntb: no problem :)
[10:41] <animimotus> I can't install Liquid Weather ++ with Superkaramba, I have forget somethings ? ^^
[10:41] <stdin> crazy_bus: right click the icon/logo
[10:41] <pgdown> crazy_bus: it's there...icon is a cross with arrows
[10:42] <underdog5004> animimotus, you need to go to the website and download the .skz file...pretty involved...
[10:42] <cntb> still no keyboard model stdin
[10:42] <cntb> makes me crazy
[10:42] <crazy_bus> thanks I see it now
[10:43] <animimotus> underdog5004: ok, thx ;)
[10:43] <underdog5004> np
[10:48] <HymnToLife> !away | stdin^afk
[10:48] <ubotu> stdin^afk: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:49] <HymnToLife> I think it's stupid, too but "dura lex sed lex" :p
[10:52] <intelikey> rex lex
[10:54] <Edulix> hi
[10:54] <pgdown> im officially an insomniac
[10:54] <Edulix> which kubuntu/ubuntu software could I use to multiply matrixes?
[10:56] <pgdown> Edulix: not sure. but if you open the terminal and enter apt-cache search calculator...alot of entries come up.
[10:57] <Edulix> pgdown: I'll try that
[10:59] <pgdown> Edulix: then, of course, do sudo apt-get install name-of-application...sure you knew that though
[10:59] <Edulix> yeah I knew that hehe
[10:59] <Edulix> I think scilab will do the trick
[11:00] <Edulix> pgdown: altough I prefer aptitude search hehe
[11:00] <Edulix> its output is easier to read ;)
[11:00] <pgdown> yeah...I love straight up apt-get though
[11:00] <pgdown> quick & easy
[11:02] <keldon> hi i want to make note of a problem with the kubuntu installation
[11:02] <keldon> i am on it now
[11:03] <keldon> but i have noticed that on two systems, one with a geforce, one with an ATI radeon that the normal installation mode cannot properly get the screen size and has it at the bare minimum
[11:03] <keldon> however the installation is difficult, if not impossible at this resolution; however safe mode works fine
[11:04] <keldon> so either the installation should only boot in safe mode, or the installation should be able to work at the minimum resolution
[11:04] <pgdown> keldon: yeah, that's common...hence the safe mode option
[11:04] <HymnToLife> or even beeter, the "Install Live CD" should be dropped
[11:04] <HymnToLife> better*
[11:05] <gourdin> anyone can help me on this one ? http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewforum.php?f=36
[11:05] <keldon> well the install live cd is great as you can get live assistance while installing - nobody offers that anywhere
[11:05] <keldon> but the normal mode should be scrapped and only safe mode
[11:05] <intelikey> !beryl
[11:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:06] <keldon> it is great being able to chat on irc while at the same time install an operating system
[11:06] <premier> yeah! beryl!
[11:07] <intelikey> keldon you can do that on the alternate install too
[11:07] <dwidmann> hehe, keldon, yeah, better than watching at crappy bits of info that you already knew for an hour too
[11:07] <dwidmann> and by far
[11:08] <dwidmann> intelikey, and how would you do that on the alternate?
[11:08] <intelikey> same way i'm doing it right now.
[11:08] <dwidmann> :o
[11:08] <keldon> but in the next release they really need to sort that as it makes it impossible to install; and since the safe mode works so well why try anything else
[11:08] <dwidmann> do tell
[11:09] <pgdown> irssi?
[11:09] <pgdown> alt-f2, then irssi?
[11:09] <pgdown> something like that...right?
[11:09] <intelikey> something like that. yeah
[11:09] <hungpham> does anybody know how to resize Ubuntu partitions ?
[11:09] <Pensacola> gparted migth do the trick
[11:10] <pgdown> boot into live cd and use gparted
[11:10] <intelikey> !parted
[11:10] <hungpham> I have that one but I cannot resize
[11:10] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[11:10] <keldon85> man i'm not sure what's up. my password is not working!!! i'm sure i just used my normal password
[11:10] <intelikey> !gparted
[11:10] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:11] <hungpham> I have already installed it, but the feature is disable
[11:11] <intelikey>   http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:12] <pgdown> hungpham: you cant resize a partition while it is mounted
[11:12] <pgdown> hence the need to use a live cd
[11:13] <pgdown> anyone use bitchx?
[11:13] <intelikey> i
[11:13] <hungpham> I have used the Ubuntu live CD but the feature is disable also
[11:13] <hungpham> is it correct if I have to use Gparted live CD
[11:13] <hungpham> not Ubuntu Live CD
[11:14] <intelikey> the live can
[11:14] <hungpham> which CD ? Gparted or Ubuntu ?
[11:14] <intelikey> sudo umount /media/*
[11:14] <intelikey> and restart gparted
[11:15] <pgdown> any live cd with some *parted will work
[11:16] <pgdown> gparted cd is real nice...but live ubuntu cd will work, so use tht
[11:16] <cntb> kxkb is on dapper what is on edgy ?/help
[11:16] <hungpham> ok,I will check with the Ubuntu Live CD
[11:16] <intelikey> your idea of "real nice" and mine don't jive.
[11:19] <pgdown> it's good for what it is
[11:19] <pgdown> I wouldnt use it..
[11:19] <intelikey> i should add,  but that's just fine cause i don't use partitions anyway.
[11:22] <cntb> how do I force install sudo apt-get install libx11-6?
[11:22] <dwidmann> That's what friends are for ... using their bandwidth to get you ..... oops, that slipped
[11:23] <intelikey> cntb idk.  when i checked ... libx11-6 is already the newest version.
[11:24] <intelikey> cntb what message you getting ?
[11:24] <cntb>  exactly that inteli
[11:24] <dwidmann> woo hoo! "-M 2" did it
[11:24] <cntb> intelikey:
[11:25] <intelikey> you wanting to reinstall the same package ?
[11:25] <cntb> but xxkb reports broken packages
[11:25] <cntb> yep intelikey
[11:25] <intelikey> apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install libx11-6
[11:25] <cntb> 3  libs like that
[11:26] <cntb> any clue pal ?
[11:26] <cntb> k tyvm trying that
[11:26] <intelikey> as root
[11:27] <visik7> anyone know if exists a way to handle video podcasts in amarok ?
[11:27] <dwidmann> I can't remember which ftp client I liked .... intelikey, do you know of any kde ftp clients that will let you drag over nested directories, but lets you filter by filetype or filename?
[11:27] <dwidmann> (or in the absence of one for kde, something else)
[11:27] <intelikey> dwidmann konqueror ?
[11:28] <dwidmann> It's good, though it's a bit slow, and I can't have it only copy over files that are of a certain filetype (in this case, I only want to copy over html, php, and css files)
[11:29] <premier> I cant lock the screen
[11:29] <dwidmann> I don't want to recopy things like images, or archives ..... that would take ages at my amazing fast upload rate of 2kbs
[11:29] <intelikey> mc can but it's cli based.    gentoo can but it's not a kde app tho it will work in kde very well
[11:30] <intelikey> wput is cli and could be scripted to do that.
[11:30] <intelikey> as to a KDE app if konq don't then i don't guess i know of one.
[11:31] <premier> I think kpowersave is preventing me from locking the screen
[11:31] <cntb> intelikey: on edgy now ?
[11:32] <premier> I tried turning it off, and messing with the configuration stuff, but it doesnt work
[11:32] <intelikey> cntb me ?   no.
[11:32] <cntb> pls try installing xxkb intelikey
[11:32] <cntb> ah OK
[11:33] <intelikey> !lts
[11:33] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:33] <cntb> what is the meta packege name for kde?
[11:33] <intelikey> kde
[11:34] <premier> is there a command line to lock the screen?
[11:34] <intelikey> exit
[11:34] <intelikey> :)
[11:35] <cntb> intelikey: will installing kde meta fix my keyboard layots and model problem?
[11:35] <premier> are you serious are you trying to get me to do something that will crash my computer?
[11:35] <dwidmann> premier: exit = logout
[11:35] <intelikey> cntb i don't know that.
[11:35] <intelikey> cntb you need someone that uses a gui
[11:37] <dwidmann> cntb: "kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout" has a lot of stuff in it
[11:37] <dwidmann> to do with keyboard laytou/model/etc
[11:37] <acemo> cntb: i think u need dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:37] <intelikey> premier you said "a command line to lock the screen" it does not "lock" the screen, it does make it so you need a passwd to do anything.     unless you are talking about a command to lock the kde screen....
[11:37] <acemo> somewhere in that setup u can choose the keyboard layout
[11:40] <user001> root password of kubuntu
[11:40] <intelikey> 
[11:40] <dwidmann> Hmm, I think kasablanca can do what I'm looking for (in reverse actually), but it looks like I need to teach myself how to use regular expressions first ...
[11:41] <intelikey> man regex
[11:42] <intelikey> practice      echo -e $[2-3] 
[11:44] <hungpham> hi, about Gparted, I have used the Ubuntu live CD, prepare some unallocated space before the Linux partition, but I still can not resize the partition to be larger
[11:44] <hungpham> resize to be smaller is possible
[11:46] <stephan> hmm, there a strange problem, suddenly the focus switches only to a window when i click the title bar
[11:46] <hungpham> I will try again :(
[11:46] <stephan> whenn i click into the window, the focus does not follow
[11:47] <stephan> i checke "window behavior" and everything seems right
[11:48] <Jucato> using Beryl?
[11:49] <stephan> no
[11:49] <Jucato> hm..
[11:50] <sleepy745> How do I find out the cause or text of errors of a bug. Kiba shuts down after I change an option..
[11:50] <Jucato> stephan: Window Behavior is set to Click to focus,  and Click raise active window is enabled?
[11:50] <Jucato> sleepy745: try running it from Konsole
[11:51] <sleepy745> ok
[11:53] <stephan> Jucato: yes, its click to focus and raise active window is enabled
[11:54] <Jucato> hm.. weird.
[11:56] <stephan> yes, and annoying
[11:56] <TheHermit> Friends i can find some packges in the adept how that could b e
[11:56] <TheHermit> cant*
[12:01] <TheHermit> i need to make a link for my partition in the dektop how can i do that
[12:01] <intelikey> man ln
[12:02] <TheHermit> yes i try to do that ls -l /media/hda7/work is that right
[12:02] <intelikey> TheHermit that's the source.  add the destination.
[12:02] <Jazon> good morning everyone
[12:03] <Jazon> i somehow cocked up my direct rendering on my laptop
[12:03] <intelikey> ls - /media/hda7/work ~/Desktop/<something>
[12:03] <intelikey> -l
[12:03] <intelikey> or -s
[12:03] <Jazon> and i see there is no longer a load "dri" in xorg.conf
[12:03] <TheHermit> oh i forget it sorry i will
[12:03] <Jazon> was wondering about using beryl on my 2 screen setup - anyone done this?
[12:04] <stephan> i must switch to fus follew mouse
[12:04] <stephan> otherwise my system is not usable anymore
[12:06] <stephan> wow
[12:06] <stephan> http://lists.kde.org/?t=114966540500001&r=1&w=2
[12:06] <Jazon> tried adding Load "dri" restarting X brb
[12:09] <TheHermit> inteliky, by the way i am mena if you remeber me ....i cant find some packdges int the adept like azureuz i dont know why
[12:09] <intelikey> !azureuz
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azureuz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <intelikey> azureus - BitTorrent client
[12:10] <TheHermit> yes
[12:10] <intelikey> !azureus
[12:10] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[12:10] <TheHermit> in
[12:10] <Alarm> hello, how can i add a 3d desktop on kubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:10] <intelikey> !info azureus
[12:10] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[12:10] <intelikey> unicerse
[12:11] <intelikey> universe
[12:11] <TheHermit> inteliky,So is that normal if i didnt some packadge in the adept and i used to install them form it
[12:11] <TheHermit> find*
[12:11] <intelikey> yep. until you enable the universe repos
[12:11] <intelikey> !repos
[12:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:12] <dwidmann> :( kftpgrabber looked even better ... shame it isn't stable
[12:12] <TheHermit> intelikey, okay
[12:13] <stephan> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75199
[12:14] <stephan> this is a very good description of my problem
[12:15] <Alarm> cant find how to add themes for my kde (i dont mean my login spalsh screen only)
[12:15] <dwidmann> alarm, alt+f2 -> kcontrol, then go to appearances, themes
[12:15] <Alarm> there is no section themes dwidmann
[12:15] <Jucato> !changethemes | Alarm
[12:15] <cntb> want to backup  photos from canon powershot a310  in kubuntu
[12:15] <ubotu> Alarm: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:16] <dwidmann> Alarm, yes there is, if you actually opened KControl, and absolutely NOT systemsettings
[12:16] <Alarm> thats why  i am wondering, all i see, is styles, window decoration , icons , and some font settings
[12:17] <dwidmann> actually, it would be "Theme Manager"
[12:17] <Alarm> seems there is no Kcontrol installed :)
[12:17] <Jucato> Alarm: you're looking for 3D desktop
[12:17] <Jucato> that would be beryl
[12:17] <dwidmann> :O Blasphemy!
[12:17] <Jucato> Alarm: did you read the guide?
[12:17] <dwidmann> Alarm: i t's case sensitive
[12:17] <Alarm> thats what i am doing now :)
[12:17] <TheHermit> intelikey, in the pae they said its for kubuntu 6.6 and ubuntu 6.6 and iam 6.10 and one more thing i cant find things they shpw me in the pictures to to install rpo
[12:18] <dwidmann> Alarm: all lower case
[12:18] <Jucato> what themes are you looking for/wanting to install?
[12:18] <Alarm> Jucato,  to make my desktop look... better
[12:18] <TheHermit> show*
[12:18] <Jucato> ok... what kind of theme have you downloaded?
[12:18] <Alarm> something like that: http://www.diazdelaiglesia.com/arquivos/superkaramba/Captura2.png
[12:19] <Alarm> nothing yet. first i am trying to figure out how to install them before i download them
[12:19] <cntb> want to backup  photos from canon powershot a310  in kubuntu -- no JOY !!!!!
[12:19] <Jucato> Alarm: that's a Superkaramba theme
[12:20] <TheHermit> intelikey, Never mind i find the way
[12:20] <Alarm> ok, i will isntall kcontrol firstly
[12:20] <Jucato> Alarm: wait!!!
[12:20] <TheHermit> intelikey, okay
[12:20] <Jucato> Alarm: #1 what you're looking it is not a desktop theme, it's a superkaramba applet
[12:20] <intelikey> TheHermit sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/
[12:20] <Alarm> yes got it
[12:21] <Jucato> Alarm: #2, kcontrol is already installed by default. that guide I gave already tells you how to run it
[12:21] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <intelikey> then open adept
[12:21] <Alarm> yes i saw it, its installed, there wasnt any shortcut
[12:21] <Jucato> ok, carry on :)
[12:21] <dwidmann> Alarm: that's why I said to run it with alt + f2 :(
[12:21] <TheHermit> intelikey, okay
[12:21] <sleepy745> I found the error Jucato, its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2734/
[12:30] <crazy_bus> I trying to compile a program but I'm getting this error how can I fix it?
[12:30] <crazy_bus> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:30] <crazy_bus> soulrider, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:31] <TheHermit> Is there a Sites to dowenload Themes And icon themes
[12:31] <intelikey> install kde headers
[12:31] <TheHermit> okay
[12:32] <intelikey> TheHermit not you.
[12:32] <wojtek_> i have a question
[12:32] <intelikey> that was at crazy_bus
[12:32] <TheHermit> ok
[12:32] <intelikey> TheHermit kdelook.org  or some such
[12:32] <TheHermit> ok
[12:32] <crazy_bus> this is the command Im typing where do I add install kde headers:
[12:32] <crazy_bus> ggz-kde-client-0.0.14$ ./configure --prefix=$HOME/ggz
[12:32] <intelikey> wojtek_  good for you.
[12:33] <wojtek_> why my kubuntu & xubuntu sometimes don't log out
[12:33] <intelikey> crazy_bus well if kde headers are installed they are not in $HOME ....
[12:34] <crazy_bus> I'm confused.  Someone told me to install a program with that command.  What should I do?
[12:34] <intelikey> try   ./configure
[12:34] <intelikey> see if it errors out
[12:34] <wojtek_> no error logs
[12:35] <crazy_bus> there was the same error
[12:35] <rjb> hi there, anyone know of a util that could be used to send the stdout of a shell command to kde's clipboard?
[12:35] <intelikey> kdebase-dev - development files for the KDE base module
[12:35] <intelikey> kdelibs4-dev - development files for the KDE core libraries
[12:35] <crazy_bus> thanks
[12:35] <intelikey> crazy_bus i'm not sure what it wants but one or both of those might be it.
[12:36] <rjb> .. as something like 'some_shell_pipeline | toclipboard' ?
[12:37] <intelikey> rjb will klipper "`command goes here`"   not do it ?
[12:37] <crazy_bus> isn't kdelibs4 for kde4 programs?
[12:37] <intelikey> crazy_bus i doubt that kde4 has any packages in dapper repos  so no.
[12:38] <rjb> intelikey: nope, doesn't seem so
[12:38] <crazy_bus> I was looking at the description before and I'm sure it said it was for testing programs for the upcoming kde4
[12:39] <intelikey> Source: kdelibs
[12:39] <intelikey> Version: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18
[12:39] <intelikey> Replaces: kdebase-dev (<< 4:3.4.0)
[12:39] <intelikey> looks like 3.5.2  to me
[12:39] <HymnToLife> KDE4 packages are only available for Edgy, and they're in a separate repo
[12:40] <crazy_bus> are you talking about this package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdelibs
[12:40] <[Amigo] > Hi ppl! Where I can install/change kdm-theme? Or only manualy do it?
[12:40] <crazy_bus> sorry I was wrong :)
[12:40] <intelikey> [Amigo]  kcontrol
[12:40] <HymnToLife> crazy_bus, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[12:42] <intelikey> rjb if you have the output in a konsole you can highlight it and it should atuomatically go to the klipper
[12:42] <[Amigo] > intelikey: kcontrol -> ???
[12:42] <rjb> intelikey: i know, but that's not always convenient
[12:42] <[Amigo] > intelikey: can't found it :)
[12:43] <HymnToLife> !info kdmtheme
[12:43] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[12:43] <intelikey> rjb there is a way to feed it in but don't ask me what...  man klipper   maybe
[12:43] <rjb> intelikey: might there be some way to achieve this by a dcop call?
[12:43] <HymnToLife> [Amigo] , install that, it should create a module for KDM themes in KControl
[12:44] <rjb> intelikey: looked at the klipper docs slready, no hint
[12:44] <intelikey> rjb yeah dcop probably can too.   but again you are playing with that gui thingy....  i don't.
[12:44] <[Amigo] > HymnToLife: Ok. Tnks!
[12:45] <intelikey> !theem
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <intelikey> !theeme
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theeme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <intelikey> !theme
[12:45] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:46] <intelikey> !changethemes
[12:46] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:47] <intelikey> thar she blows      ^
[12:48] <crazy_bus> It fixed that problem.  Thankyou
[12:48] <intelikey> i install kdebase and then remove it again about twice a week now.
[12:49] <intelikey> i'm expecting that to decreese as i answer less and less kde questions....
[12:49] <rjb> got it! dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents "`shell command`" :-)
[12:50] <intelikey> you could post that on a wiki some place.
[12:50] <[Amigo] > How to run gui programm from true console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)? It's a imposible?
[12:50] <intelikey> [Amigo]  no.
[12:51] <intelikey> depends on which apps
[12:51] <[Amigo] > intelikey: ok
[12:52] <intelikey> there is console frame buffering  and svga libs  that allow graphics in the console.
[12:53] <intelikey> if there is an xserver running you can start many gui apps from console and just tell them to attach to the running xserver.
[12:54] <[Amigo] > Yes. I can attach any gui application to running xserver?
[12:55] <[Amigo] > from true console?
[12:55] <rjb> ..although it would be nice to cook up a shell function or command that does it from stdin, 'cause what if the output contains quotation marks?
[12:56] <intelikey> have broken kdm/kde?  just call X   then konsole --display :0
[12:56] <intelikey> [Amigo]  yes   but you would have to use dcop on some of them.
[12:56] <intelikey> i think
[12:56] <[Amigo] > yes broken kde
[12:56] <vincent> !help
[12:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:57] <[Amigo] > just run: konsole --display:0?
[12:57] <vincent> !java
[12:57] <intelikey> if X is running
[12:57] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:57] <intelikey>  konsole --display :0
[12:57] <[Amigo] > yes X is running . thanks!!!
[12:57] <intelikey> then in the konsole you should be able to start other apps
[12:58] <intelikey> just call them from there.
[12:59] <intelikey> [Amigo]  kicker   is the taskbar & menu
[12:59] <[Amigo] > intelikey: I understend you. Thanks!!!
[01:04] <[Amigo] > Yes. I install now new kdm-theme!!! Thanks ppl!
[01:07] <rcurtis> Hi, quick print question
[01:08] <rcurtis> When I try and add a printer in Dapper, I only have the SMB and Other Printer options available. Everything else is greyed out.
[01:08] <rcurtis> I'd like to add the printer via IP address but can't
[01:08] <mardi> hi all, trying to install Kubuntu 6.10, get to the part with grub and it says "Executing 'grub-install (sda)' failed. This is a fatal error."   any help?
[01:09] <filthpig> rcurtis: tried with admin mode?
[01:10] <rcurtis> filthpig: yes. The option used to be available but not any longer. Wonder if there is some config file I can clean out, or something?
[01:10] <filthpig> hmmm
[01:11] <filthpig> have you looked ain the user management-area?
[01:11] <filthpig> maybe you can find something there
[01:14] <rcurtis> filthpig: not sure what I should be looking for here - I have found the list of secondary groups for the user - they include lpadmin
[01:14] <rcurtis> anything else I need to look for - nothing jumps out
[01:14] <filthpig> printer?
[01:15] <mardi> where normally is grub installed to?
[01:15] <intelikey> mbr
[01:15] <rcurtis> filthpig: there is no printer group
[01:15] <intelikey> cupsys rcurtis
[01:16] <filthpig> ah, yes, sorry
[01:16] <rcurtis> intelikey: I don't have a cupsys group either
[01:16] <rcurtis> jucato: used to be able to print
[01:17] <filthpig> w00t. I couldn't enter my user management area, got some error. :s
[01:17] <intelikey> hmmm i didn't think you could print locally without cupsys
[01:17] <rcurtis> wonder if somehow cupsys got deleted when I was adding/removing packages - possible ??
[01:17] <intelikey> the "kubuntu" way anyway
[01:18] <Jucato> there's no cupsys group afaik
[01:18] <filthpig> rcurtis: dunno, but it might
[01:18] <filthpig> I've experienced similar things several times
[01:18] <intelikey> cupsys package Jucato
[01:18] <filthpig> (like now, can't enter my user management-area)
[01:18] <Jucato> intelikey: yes. that's different :)
[01:18] <khatahn> any idea why my kaffeine doesn't display videos in correct aspect ratio? a video that _should_ be 640x480 is not as wide as it should be. the problem can be clearly seen in fullscreen mode, where there are black bars in left and right side of the screen, while the video should fill the whole (4:3) screen
[01:19] <intelikey> Jucato looks like cupsys sets up a user "cupsys" and adds that to several things.
[01:19] <rcurtis> hmmn - its showing the cupsys packages as installed
[01:19] <Jucato> intelikey: strange... I have cupsys, but no cupsys user...
[01:19] <intelikey> Jucato ?
[01:19] <Jucato> nvm
[01:19] <Jucato> cupsys group
[01:19] <Jucato> wait..
[01:20] <intelikey> i guess that must have changed from dapper to edgy
[01:20] <Jucato> yes, no cupsys group. just a cupsys user
[01:20] <rcurtis> I have a cupsys user but no group
[01:20] <intelikey> ok that's what i have too.
[01:20] <mardi> is there a way to "see" the mbr, to see if it's been messed up?
[01:22] <rcurtis> intelikey: - what groups does your cupsys user belong to
[01:22] <intelikey> mardi dd if=/dev/sda count=1 | less
[01:22] <akasico1>    	 	 	 	 	 	 		 	    	 	-:) 	Hi how can I swith off the screen without log out
[01:22] <rcurtis> I have a primary group of lpadmin
[01:22] <intelikey> let me check.
[01:22] <rcurtis> also, a status of disabled
[01:23] <intelikey> rcurtis lpadmin  scanner  fax  lpd
[01:24] <rcurtis> intelikey: thanks - very frustrating this
[01:25] <mardi> intelikey: thanks for the help, that threw up about 40 lines of symbols and stuff
[01:25] <intelikey> mardi that's the whole mbr in raw fromat
[01:26] <mardi> intelikey: ok, so any idea why the kubuntu installer won't write grub to it?
[01:26] <intelikey> you could filter it  but if grub installed there should be a "grub" id tag in the raw output.
[01:26] <intelikey> Jucato  !
[01:27] <Jucato> O.o
[01:27] <intelikey> what was the command within grub ?
[01:27] <intelikey> mardi type   sudo grub
[01:27] <mardi> intelikey: says: GRUB^@Geom^@Hard Disk^@Read^@Error
[01:27] <Jucato> yeah, "sudo grub"
[01:28] <intelikey> that will take you to a grub prompt
[01:28] <mardi> intelikey: yup, at a grub prompt (we are using the Kubuntu live cd for this fyi)
[01:29] <intelikey> what partition did you install onto ?
[01:29] <intelikey> you need the address
[01:29] <intelikey> Jucato is it root blah next ?
[01:29] <Jucato> find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:29] <Jucato> root (whatever)
[01:29] <Jucato> setup (wherever)
[01:30] <intelikey> that.
[01:30] <intelikey> mardi ^
[01:30] <mardi> intelikey:  well, in the installer it wanted to put grub in hd0, so we switched it to sda, don't know about partitions
[01:31] <intelikey> mardi type that ^
[01:31] <intelikey> find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:31] <mardi> intelikey: fing: /boot/grub: No such file or directory
[01:32] <mardi> intelikey: *find:
[01:32] <Jucato> bah...  why is that not working anymore?!?!
[01:33] <intelikey> ok leave the grub prompt just like it is and do this in another konsole window or tab      sudo fdisk -l
[01:33] <Jucato> mardi: do you know what hard disk and partition the /boot directory is installed in?
[01:33] <mardi> intelikey: doing it now
[01:34] <intelikey> mardi don't flood the irc channle  just look for the new ext3 partition
[01:34] <mardi> Jucato: don't know, we have XP installed in partiton 1, have had linux on this box before with grub fine tho
[01:34] <Jucato> hm....
[01:35] <intelikey> assuming ext3    ^
[01:35] <mardi> sudo fdisk -l says boot is on /dev/sda1
[01:36] <intelikey> mardi ok well try that.    in the grub prompt type   root /dev/sda1
[01:36] <mardi> shows sda1 as NTFS, sda2 as linux swap / Solaris, sda3 as Linux
[01:36] <Jucato> O.o
[01:36] <intelikey> wait then.
[01:36] <intelikey> mardi ok well try that.    in the grub prompt type   root /dev/sda3
[01:36] <mardi> hehe
[01:36] <intelikey> yeah me too.
[01:37] <intelikey> just not all the way around like Jucato's....
[01:37] <intelikey> how does he do that ???
[01:37] <mardi> at grub prompt we put in: root /dev/sda3 and it said: Error 11: Unrecognized device string
[01:38] <Jucato> intelikey: Exorcist :)
[01:38] <Jucato> mardi: root (hd0,2)
[01:38] <intelikey> ok try    root (hd0,2)
[01:38] <r3d|line> hi all any body help me
[01:38] <kageko_> anyone know a useful smsclient?
[01:38] <extern> adept_installer crashes with error http://pastebin.com/866187, not long after pressing on "unsupported" or "proprietary" check boxes. What can I do?
[01:38] <extern> it used to work some time ago properly
[01:39] <mardi> intelikey Jucato: believe that worked, no error
[01:39] <intelikey> mardi setup (hd0)
[01:39] <mardi> try installing again?
[01:39] <mardi> intelikey: ok
[01:40] <intelikey> if that doesn't error.  exit
[01:40] <r3d|line> heelp please
[01:41] <intelikey> Jucato are we leaving out (hd0) in the find syntax ?
[01:41] <mardi> intelikey: at grub prompt we put in: setup (hd0), and it said: Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no  Error 15: File not found
[01:41] <extern> can anyone name a hex editor?
[01:41] <Jucato> extern: khexedit
[01:41] <r3d|line> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"."
[01:42] <Jucato> intelikey: hm....
[01:42] <extern> so no idea about my adept_installer error?
[01:42] <Jucato> extern: are you running it from a root prompt?
[01:42] <extern> with sudo
[01:42] <intelikey> mardi that's why it failed.  grub package didn't install correctly i guess
[01:42] <Jucato> extern: yes, but in a regular user prompt?
[01:42] <extern> I first ran it through the program menu
[01:42] <extern> it crashed
[01:42] <extern> and then I ran it through the terminal
[01:42] <Jucato> mardi: did you run setup (hd0) immediately after "root (hd0,2)"?
[01:42] <extern> regular one
[01:43] <extern> to see why was it crashing
[01:43] <mardi> Jucato: yes
[01:43] <Jucato> hm...
[01:43] <intelikey> mardi in the other tab   sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media && ls /media/boot
[01:43] <mardi> Jucato: all at grub prompt
[01:43] <_AnA_>  :) 	Hi  boys Does someone knows how can I swith off the screen without log out
[01:43] <Jucato> _AnA_: what do you mean?
[01:43] <mardi> intelikey: ok, one tic
[01:44] <Jucato> *tic* done!
[01:44] <gnomefreak> _AnA_: lock the screen
[01:44] <Jucato> :)
[01:44] <gnomefreak> if i understand you right
[01:44] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[01:44] <intelikey> he seems to have a .001hz clock
[01:44] <mardi> intelikey: ok, spit out some file names, one of them being grub
[01:45] <intelikey> mardi ok    ls /media/boot/grub
[01:45] <intelikey> we are now looking for  'stage1'
[01:46] <mardi> intelikey: Comes up with "device.map"
[01:46] <acemo> sudo rm -r /media/boot/grub
[01:46] <intelikey> mardi is that all ?
[01:46] <mardi> intelikey: yep
[01:46] <intelikey> Jucato is 'stage1' generic ?
[01:47] <Jucato> intelikey: yes
[01:47] <Jucato> acemo: huh?
[01:47] <acemo> jucato: sorry was on a wrong window
[01:47] <intelikey> mardi ok in that other tab "not grub" try this.  sudo chroot /media grub-install hd0
[01:48] <_AnA_> no I am watching a dvd in linux Kubu but the monitor turn off everytimes
[01:48] <Jucato> _AnA_: ah... power management. System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Power Management tab, turn it off
[01:49] <mardi> intelikey: Says "/dev/sda3: Not found or not a block device."
[01:49] <Jucato> also check if you have a screensaver enabled, disable it
[01:49] <sleepy745> Does kubuntu have /dev/null?
[01:49] <Jucato> of course ;)
[01:50] <intelikey> mardi now   ls /media/boot/grub/      i hope it copied files over.
[01:50] <intelikey> sleepy745 udev "should" make a null device.
[01:51] <_AnA_> thx jucato
[01:51] <mardi> intelikey: Says "device.map"  .. that's it
[01:51] <Jucato> !grub-install
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Jucato> bah
[01:52] <intelikey> mardi idk.   if i had hands on i'd do something.  just don't know what...
[01:52] <mardi> intelikey: is there a way we can remove it all and start again?
[01:53] <Jucato> !grub
[01:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:53] <Jucato> mardi: check that GrubHowto... might be helpful
[01:53] <mardi> Jucato: will do
[01:53] <intelikey> mardi just   exit   in the grub prompt and exit the other too and start the install again.
[01:54] <intelikey> if you are at that point.
[01:54] <mardi> intelikey: in the install, where should we tell it to install grub exactly? (Just so I don't f*** it up again)
[01:54] <_AnA_> :) Hi 	does kubuntu has a program task (run a program in xxhrs)
[01:54] <intelikey> Jucato i'm gona leave it with you.     (and thanks for the hands)
[01:55] <intelikey> Jucato mardi
[01:55] <Jucato> _AnA_: kcron I think. not really sure
[01:55] <intelikey> mardi jucato
[01:55] <Jucato> bah
[01:55] <Jucato> I'm not so well-versed with grub...
[01:55] <chavo> _AnA_, yes there is an app called kcron
[01:56] <_AnA_> thx all
[01:57] <mardi> Jucato: Reading those links.
[01:58] <Gimmy> hi
[02:05] <_AnA_> ok boys now one no so easy I am usin kubu lst 6.06 and I am trying to actualizate gaim this is the link http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235&package_id=253&release_id=479631
[02:05] <_AnA_> Wich one should I download
[02:05] <Jucato> !info gaim dapper
[02:05] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[02:06] <Jucato> _AnA_: any reason the one from the repositories doesn't work?
[02:06] <Jucato> don't want to use Kopete instead? heheh :D
[02:06] <_AnA_> yes ubotu but I wanna actualizate to 2.0
[02:06] <_AnA_> becouse the 1.1 has a bug with hotmail
[02:08] <_AnA_> Jucato what you mean to search on internet "!info gaim dapper"
[02:08] <_AnA_> no thx jucato becouse gaim is aswell a irc
[02:08] <Jucato> _AnA_: I was just calling the bot (ubotu)
[02:08] <Jucato> Kopete can do IRC too, although KOnversation is probably for that
[02:09] <_AnA_> yes I know but gaim is multiplataform
[02:10] <_AnA_> and I can you in win aswell, by the way do you know how can I actualizate?
[02:10] <Jucato> not really. there's seems to be no package available for Kubuntu/Debian in that download page. which means you'd have to compile from source if you really really want that version of GAIM. but that's a bit more complicated
[02:13] <vincent> hi, i just wanted to know about updating the menu from the command line
[02:13] <vincent> as i remember there being a bug with it not automatically displaying particular apps
[02:13] <Jucato> vincent: what happened?
[02:13] <Jucato> what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[02:13] <vincent> 6.06
[02:13] <Jucato> vincent: ah yes...
[02:14] <_AnA_> Jucato can I use a gaim gnome version on kubuntu
[02:14] <Jucato> "kbuildsycoca"
[02:14] <Jucato> ignore the error messages
[02:14] <_AnA_> kubu lts 6.06
[02:14] <Jucato> _AnA_: the one from Ubuntu? yes. but that's version 1.5.x
[02:15] <_AnA_> and are there any gaim 2.0 ?
[02:15] <vincent> thanks
[02:15] <_AnA_> or futher than 1.5
[02:16] <Jucato> hm..
[02:16] <Jucato> !info gaim dapper-backports
[02:16] <ubotu> Package gaim does not exist in dapper-backports
[02:16] <Jucato> !info gaim edgy
[02:16] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[02:16] <Jucato> _AnA_: seems like Edgy (6.10) has Gaim 2.0
[02:17] <mardi> Jucato: We're in the livecd installer (again), can you tell me what it means to set a partition "active"?
[02:17] <_AnA_> how do you know?
[02:17] <_AnA_> jucato
[02:17] <Jucato> _AnA_: gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[02:18] <Jucato> mardi: which guide are you reading?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Jucato: your not german are you? please say yes ;)
[02:18] <mardi> Jucato: guide.. we don't need no stinkin' guide!!!
[02:18] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I'm not :P
[02:18] <mardi> Jucato: ;)
[02:18] <Jucato> mardi: :P
[02:19] <Jucato> mardi: I just need to see the context of your question :)
[02:20] <_AnA_> Jucato How can I see the program that are comming with the last kubu version
[02:20] <mardi> Jucato: We are in qtparted  - I just wanted to know what it means to set a partition "active"..
[02:20] <JOSF_> Do I really have to download all available languages for certain documentations ? For example, the package with the docs for Digikam contains more than ten languages, so is with the image-plugins. All I want is english and german docs. Any chance ?
[02:21] <JOSF_> mardi: The active partition is the one the BIOS will boot from. Only one partition can be active. On Windows this would be C:\
[02:22] <JOSF_> But if you have a bootmanager (like GRUB) you can boot from other partitions too.
[02:22] <Jucato> mardi: aah... not really sure...
[02:22] <Jucato> _AnA_: I asked the bot
[02:22] <mardi> JOSF: oooh, thanks.
[02:25] <_AnA_> how do you ask the bot?
[02:25] <Tm_T> !help
[02:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:25] <HymnToLife> _AnA_, /msg ubotu !whatever
[02:25] <Jucato> _AnA_: you can also try searching in http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:26] <_AnA_>  /msg ubotu !whatever
[02:26] <_AnA_>  /msg ubotu
[02:26] <_AnA_>  /msg ubotu help
[02:26] <emonkey> _AnA_, without a space
[02:27] <emonkey> as first char
[02:27] <_AnA_> thx emonkey
[02:27] <emonkey> nP
[02:28] <_AnA_> thx jucato & hymntolife
[02:28] <_AnA_> so ubotu is a bot about ubuntu and kubu isn't it?
[02:29] <HymnToLife> about all Ubuntus
[02:29] <JOSF_> Do I really have to download all available languages for certain documentations ? For example, the package with the docs for Digikam contains more than ten languages, so is with the image-plugins. All I want is english and german docs. Any chance ?
[02:35] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a "official" way to get Java 6 on edgy?
[02:36] <Lunar_Lamp> I've just installed the kubuntu-desktop package, but I'm having problems configuring my kubuntu desktop to how I want it. I want a panel at the top, and a panel at the bottom (somewhat like the gnome setup).
[02:36] <HymnToLife> !java
[02:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:36] <Skrot> Thats java 5
[02:37] <Lunar_Lamp> However, I can't seem to configure the panel at the bottom, when I right click it and click "configure panel" it configures the top panel and not the bottom one.
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Skrot: you have to install it from java. no java6 packages for edgy
[02:37] <emonkey> Skrot, in Feisty theres is Java 6
[02:37] <emonkey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/ia32-sun-java6-bin
[02:37] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: restart the panel by pressing Alt+F2 then typing "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[02:38] <Skrot> okay, thanks :)
[02:38] <Jucato> java 6 may be backported to edgy.... but that's not a 100% certainty
[02:38] <HymnToLife> Lunar_Lamp, when hitting Configure Panel, you should have a dropdown list in the window, letting you choose which one you want to configure
[02:38] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato, I did that, but I'm not sure what that was supposed to do.
[02:39] <Lunar_Lamp> HymnToLife, I don't. I just have the single option "configure panel".
[02:39] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: I just said it. it restarts the KDE Panel (kicker)
[02:39] <Jucato> HymnToLife: it's a KDE 3.5.5 bug..
[02:39] <HymnToLife> Jucato, I'm running KDE 3.5.5 too
[02:39] <Lunar_Lamp> What I have done is made the default kicker "tiny" and dragged it to the top of the screen.  I then added a new panel by right clicing on the panel and selecting new panel (panel).
[02:40] <Lunar_Lamp> I want the panel at the bottom to autohide, be a different size etc.
[02:40] <Jucato> HymnToLife: try it. add a Panel, right-click and Configure Panel. there's not dropdown list. or if there is, the new panel isn't added to the list
[02:40] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: you can. after you have restarted Kicker, you'll be able to select the position and hiding settings of individual panels
[02:41] <HymnToLife> Jucato, there definitely is one here, and the new panel definitely appears
[02:41] <HymnToLife> but I'm not running Kubuntu though...
[02:41] <Jucato> HymnToLife: what distro?
[02:41] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato, no, I can't...
[02:41] <HymnToLife> Jucato, FBSD
[02:41] <Jucato> might be Linux only then...
[02:41] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: what do you mean you can't?
[02:41] <Lunar_Lamp> Ah, sorry, my mistake.
[02:42] <Lunar_Lamp> I was expecting the option in a different place.
[02:42] <Lunar_Lamp> I was expecting it in the right-click menu rather than in the config screen itself.
[02:42] <Jucato> the dropdown list would be at the top of the window
[02:45] <_AnA_> :) Hi the last question for today know someones if konqueror (multiplataform webbrowser) can run on windows xp?
[02:45] <ayeizajedi> hi all, does anyone know if there is still issues with the ATI driver and x1400's concerning 3D ???
[02:45] <Jucato> _AnA_: no. at least not yet with the current version of KDE
[02:46] <Lunar_Lamp> Is it possible to get icons on the desktop for removable media (a la GNOME style)?
[02:46] <_AnA_> Jucato but there is a proyect to do it isn't it?
[02:46] <matt0507> _AnA_:  i think thats an up and coming in kde4, but im not very sure 100%
[02:46] <Admiral_Class> Lunar_Lamp: kde-look.org has KDE art
[02:46] <Admiral_Class> that would be the way to go
[02:46] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: right-click -> Create New -> Link to Device?
[02:47] <Jucato> _AnA_: well, not really. it's not a cross-platform browser anyway
[02:47] <frojnd> what is the command that tells how space u have on hds ?
[02:47] <_AnA_> :) thx boys and hasta la vista
[02:47] <Jucato> frojnd: df -h
[02:47] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato, sorry, I don't think i was clear. What I mean is, that when I plug in a USB stick and it is automounted, I get an icon for it on my desktop.
[02:47] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: it does that by default (at least it should)
[02:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato, oh, ok thanks. I haven't used KDE for ages and last time I did it didn't do that. I assumed I'd have to configure that behaviour.
[02:48] <ayeizajedi> !ati
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <ScarFreewill> what is irc's port?
[02:48] <ayeizajedi> 1337
[02:48] <ayeizajedi> ;)
[02:48] <Admiral_Class> most people use 8001 iirc
[02:49] <Admiral_Class> 6667
[02:49] <Jucato> 6667 is default, 8001 is secure (no DCC)
[02:49] <Admiral_Class> sorry
[02:49] <ScarFreewill> (konveration)
[02:49] <Admiral_Class> Jucato is right. /me leaves
[02:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Class: shouldn't you be studying? :P
[02:49] <Admiral_Class> leaving now
[02:50] <Jucato> hehe have fun!
[02:51] <Lunar_Lamp> My startxgl.sh script is currently this: http://www.pastebin.it/index.php?id=2800 - would I just substitute "gnome" for "kde" to make it load kde, or are there other settings in there that would need altering?
[02:55] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: you could ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:55] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato, ok thanks.
[02:56] <Lunar_Lamp> Ok, as you can see, I really don't know KDE at all.
[02:56] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I install themes ok KDE?
[02:56] <Lunar_Lamp> i.e. ones I have downloaded from kde-look.
[02:57] <Jucato> !changethemes | Lunar_Lamp
[02:57] <ubotu> Lunar_Lamp: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[02:59] <Lunar_Lamp> Thankyou.
[02:59] <Lunar_Lamp> Apologies for all the basic questions, I know they're not fun to answer.
[02:59] <Jucato> nah it's ok
[02:59] <Jucato> we were all beginners once
[03:00] <Jucato> that's what the bot is for.. for those basic questions that are not fun to answer :P
[03:00] <Lunar_Lamp> Hehe
[03:00] <Gimmy> hey
[03:00] <Gimmy> composit manager crash two time in a minute
[03:01] <Jucato> which composite manager?
[03:01] <Gimmy> it-s the cause of beryl window decorator crash
[03:01] <Jucato> aah... #ubuntu-xgl for you, too :)
[03:01] <Gimmy> what's the possibile solution?
[03:01] <Gimmy> ok
[03:05] <rgil> BUENOS DIAS PARA TODOS....
[03:05] <rgil> ALGUIE ME PORDRIA ILUSTRAR DE COMO ES EL CUENTO DE LOS LVM....
[03:05] <Jucato> !es | rgil
[03:05] <ubotu> rgil: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:06] <rgil> THANKS
[03:08] <TheHermit> What is the best Dowenload manger for kubuntu
[03:09] <Jucato> kget
[03:09] <Jucato> download manager *not* a download accelerator
[03:09] <HymnToLife> kget ftw
[03:10] <TheHermit> okay
[03:12] <Tm_T> Wget <3
[03:13] <Jucato> Tm_T <3
[03:13] <Jucato> Tm_T <--<3----<
[03:13] <Tm_T> :p
[03:15] <TheHermit> IS there a download accelerator
[03:16] <Jucato> for Linux? not that I'm aware of...
[03:16] <TheHermit> okay
[03:19] <TheHermit> azureus telling me that there is suitable parser on thsi system what that mena ....sorry my english is no very good
[03:19] <TheHermit> mean*
[03:20] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ;0
[03:25] <Stonez> How do I configure Kubuntu, so that it will use VLC to open videofiles everytime I click them?
[03:26] <Jucato> Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> File Associations
[03:26] <Stonez> Jucato: thanks
[03:29] <Jucato> !upstart
[03:29] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:31] <wimpies> HI all, I have a zen sleek photo.  When I plug it in I can seem my files but the Konqueror claims it as a camera.  Also amarok is unable to detect the device ? Suggestions ?
[03:31] <bobleny> Hey, is there a ubuntu irc channel for MySQL help?
[03:31] <Stonez> One more thing. I wan't Konqueror to show my directories in treemode everytime i use it, how do I do that?
[03:32] <Jucato> bobleny: ubuntu specific mysql? I don't think so. there might be a #mysql in freenode though
[03:32] <wimpies> bobleny : not for ubuntu but try #mysql
[03:32] <Jucato> Stonez: after you change to treemode, try Settings -> Save View Profile
[03:32] <Stonez> ok, thanks again :)
[03:32] <bobleny> I'm there....
[03:32] <bobleny> thanks
[03:33] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I stop windows from all workspaces being shown in the taskbar?
[03:33] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: right-click panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar options
[03:36] <Lunar_Lamp> Ah, wait.
[03:36] <Lunar_Lamp> This is an XGL issue.
[03:36] <Lunar_Lamp> KDE detects only one desktop even if there are many viewports.
[03:40] <bobleny> Does anyone know the directory of the mysql database in kubuntu? I used apt-get to install it, so its in the defualt location where ever that is....
[03:40] <Pupeno> Where's artscontrol today ? I can't find it anywhere.
[03:41] <Pupeno> bobleny: /var/lib/mysql. dpkg -L some-package can help you with that questions.
[03:41] <chuen> Hi. I've been using Skype successfully for a week or 2 now. Suddenly the other party can't hear me (which may be a blessing!). Seriously, I haven't altered any settings on 'mixer'. Anyone got any clues? Thanks.
[03:43] <bobleny> OK, ty
[03:53] <arailth> hola
[03:53] <arailth> como pueda configurar xgl en mi computadora
[03:54] <arailth> soy nuevo con linux
[03:54] <arailth> y tengo ladistribucion de ubuntu
[03:54] <Jucato> !es | arailth
[03:54] <ubotu> arailth: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:04] <Stonez> For some reason I can't download with Ktorrent, it doesn't show any seeders/leechers. I haven't installet a firewall yet, unless it's installed automatically with Kubuntu. What do I have to do, to make this work?
[04:07] <Stonez> anyone?
[04:12] <Stonez> Anyone know how i can download torrents in Ubuntu?
[04:13] <LjL> !torrent | Stonez
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Stonez, check in the config menu to open your TCP and UDP ports in order to download
[04:13] <ubotu> Stonez: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:14] <LjL> i suggest ktorrent since we're in #kubuntu
[04:14] <Stonez> yup, that's the one i want to use, I'll see if i can locate that configmenu
[04:14] <Stonez> erhm.. where do I find that?
[04:15] <Stonez> that menu
[04:15] <Stonez> BluesKaj: ?
[04:15] <LjL> Stonez: i'm not sure what blueskaj meant to be honest. ktorrent has some port settings, but it just lets you *select* ports (and i'd probably leave those at default)
[04:15] <LjL> it does however tell you that, if you're behind a NAT'ing router, you need to forward those ports
[04:15] <LjL> how to do that of course depends entirely on the router
[04:16] <Stonez> yea... But i'm not behind a NAT
[04:16] <LjL> most of them have a web interface on port 80 or 8080
[04:16] <Stonez> i just don't get any seeders/leechers
[04:16] <LjL> then ktorrent should work fine by default
[04:16] <Stonez> so i'm guessing ktorrent is blocked somewhere
[04:16] <LjL> have you tried downloading the Ubuntu bittorrent image?
[04:16] <Stonez> no
[04:16] <Stonez> but, maybe i have to run it with Sudo ?
[04:28] <ionny> ciao
[04:29] <ionny> ho un problema
[04:29] <ionny> mi sn appena insatato linux
[04:30] <LjL> !it | ionny
[04:30] <ubotu> ionny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:30] <ionny> ciao
[04:31] <BluesKaj> Stonez, LjL , I meant some ppl have dsl modems requiring port forwarding similar to those on routers ...sorry for being so obscure
[04:32] <ionny> ouuu ma xke non scrive nessuno??
[04:32] <LjL> BluesKaj: i meant the same, i used "router" as "router or modem" (well, a modem with such features really is a router i guess)
[04:32] <LjL> !it | ionny
[04:32] <ubotu> ionny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ionny about it | ionny, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:33] <BluesKaj> yup ;)
[04:34] <surgy> hey guys im trying to install kubuntu on a 600 mhz laptop using the alternate install it only has 64 mb ram, i know thats a little weak but is it possible?
[04:35] <mindspin> surgey I would suggest xubuntu for that machibe
[04:35] <mindspin> n
[04:36] <mindspin> althogh 46 is weak even for xubuntu
[04:36] <mindspin> 64
[04:37] <surgy> mindspin: yeah will it runs win2k pretty nice
[04:37] <surgy> well*
[04:37] <mindspin> win2k wuth 64 M nope no fun at all when ever
[04:38] <mindspin> 2k needs 64 M just for the system so you probably have a lot of swapping
[04:39] <surgy> mindspin: but i should be able to expect the same performance out of kubuntu that i got out of win2k right?
[04:39] <mindspin> I dunno ;-) but if you are satisfied with w2k on that machine kubuntu could be fine for you
[04:40] <surgy> well im running kubuntu on this machine (my desktop, which is alot more powerfull) and i love the os, i just need a new os on the laptop
[04:41] <m1sha> can anyone help with a missing konsole?
[04:41] <Jucato> how is it missing?
[04:41] <Lynoure> m1sha: Missing in what way?
[04:42] <m1sha> It won't run
[04:42] <Lynoure> m1sha: what happens when you try?
[04:42] <m1sha> Lynoure: I get a "SIGILL" from the crash handler
[04:43] <Jucato> hmm....
[04:45] <m1sha> if it helps I can't sun ash or sash or zsh (from the damn GNOME "Terminal" I'm using now")
[04:45] <m1sha> *run
[04:45] <Jucato> form gnome-terminal, can you launch "konsole"?
[04:46] <m1sha> Jucato: quits with "KCrash: Application 'konsole' crashing..."
[04:46] <Jucato> hm... do you remember doing anything before you got this?
[04:48] <m1sha> Jucato: ya, I installed the beryl konsole-alpha but I uninstalled that and reinstalled konsole and still now joy
[04:48] <m1sha> *no
[04:48] <Jucato> hm...
[04:49] <Jucato> might be some config files left by the one from beryl
[04:49] <Lenaud01> are you using apt-get m1sha?
[04:49] <m1sha> Lenaud01: yep
[04:50] <m1sha> Jucato: any way to find out/ repair?
[04:50] <Lenaud01> apt-get does not uninstall apps all that well I found so I would say Jucato is right that you have left over config files
[04:50] <Jucato> m1sha: what's the name of the konsole-alpha package?
[04:50] <Jucato> and does it overwrite "konsole"?
[04:50] <Lenaud01> is beryl good? I was thinking of doing it today
[04:51] <lotusleaf> Lenaud01: yes it is #ubuntu-xgl
[04:51] <Jucato> Lenaud01: it's that good :)
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, have a look at the sabayon live dvd
[04:51] <Lenaud01> thanks I was using gentoo before making the switch to kubuntu
[04:51] <Lenaud01> I could not get it going in gentoo
[04:51] <lotusleaf> Lenaud01: the latest Knoppix Live CD has it too
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, how so?
[04:51] <m1sha> Jucato: it's caed konsole alpha and it's from trevino's SVN repos
[04:52] <m1sha> Jucato: sorry that's konsole-alpha
[04:52] <Lenaud01> TheGateKeeper I am semi new to linux so was most likly my own flub
[04:52] <Lenaud01> Kubuntu is more user friendly I find, gentoo is good for speed though
[04:52] <m1sha> Lenaud01: beryl is really fantastic, slightly dodgy but great for showing off
[04:52] <AHinMaine> could anyone tell me how to force remove a package?  i was trying to install something and it failed during install, now dpkg is saying it's in some horrible state...
[04:53] <Lenaud01> yea I was impressed by the screen shots of beryl
[04:53] <Jucato> AHinMaine: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, well if you need help I have gentoo installed & know helpfull folks
[04:53] <m1sha> AHinMaine: that might be "sudo apt-get -f remove"
[04:53] <Jucato> m1sha: no
[04:53] <Jucato> -f isn't "force"
[04:54] <Jucato> it's "fix"
[04:54] <Jucato> in apt-get at least
[04:54] <Lenaud01> doing the install right now from the Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) cd
[04:54] <Jucato> m1sha: try going to ~/.kde/share/config and rename/move konsolerc
[04:54] <Lenaud01> thanks TheGateKeeper do you use gentoo over kubuntu?
[04:54] <m1sha> Jucato: I keep getting mixed up between all the package manager (I used to be SuSE)
[04:54] <AHinMaine> nope.   don't know jack about this package management system.
[04:55] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, yes, this machine is dual boot, I am using gentoo now
[04:55] <Jucato> AHinMaine: what were you trying to install, and how?
[04:55] <AHinMaine> be nice if there was a translation table of commands for different package manage systems...
[04:55] <AHinMaine> i was trying to install java.
[04:55] <Lenaud01> TheGateKeeper then you will be the best person in your opionon apt-get or emerge who rules?
[04:55] <Jucato> AHinMaine: using Adept?
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, the only down side is the time taken compiling from source, but portage is MUCH CLEVERER than apt-get
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> emerge RULES
[04:56] <AHinMaine> easy ubuntu failed, it couldn't even download the files.  i tried adept, but it got some errors and crapped out halfway through.  now i'm left with just two of the packages that say they are installed but they are in a broken state...
[04:57] <m1sha> Jucato: I tried romoving konsolerc but it's still the same
[04:57] <Jucato> AHinMaine: try this command: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> I can use it to mask, downgrade, upgrade etc, can't do that with apt-get
[04:57] <m1sha> lol easyubuntu is a nightmare
[04:57] <Lenaud01> yea thats the one thing I know is the downside to kubuntu is apt-get but I figure I will learn and if I see the need to switch I can install gentoo again
[04:57] <Lenaud01> I had gentoo up and running
[04:57] <AHinMaine> yeah, i did that.  but when I try to remove the package it says it can't.
[04:57] <Lenaud01> but it was failing for things like kbfx
[04:58] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, have another go, or try sabayon
[04:58] <Jucato> AHinMaine: what did it say with "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[04:59] <AHinMaine> nothing, it dropped me right back to a prompt.
[04:59] <Jucato> AHinMaine: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:00] <AHinMaine> i did, it seems to be picking up where it left off...  waiting for it now.
[05:00] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, I do emerge --sync emerge -uD world everyday, keeps it up to date, no messing around like you have to do with binary distros when they go to the next version
[05:01] <Lenaud01> I was doing emerge -uDf world && emerge -uD world
[05:01] <TheGateKeeper> Lenaud01, emerge --sync emerge -uD world is all you need
[05:02] <Lenaud01> world takes a long time though
[05:02] <Lenaud01> so I liked to do the f option
[05:02] <Lenaud01> to fetch all the updates
[05:02] <Lenaud01> then compile
[05:02] <Jucato> #kubuntu-offtopic is what we all need....
[05:02] <chuen> !java
[05:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:02] <Lenaud01> I agree im trying to talk about kubuntu Jucato :)
[05:02] <Lenaud01> but TheGateKeeper is just comparing
[05:02] <Lenaud01> so its still on topic
[05:03] <Jucato> not really... it's not a kubuntu support question :)
[05:04] <Lenaud01> ok I got one :)
[05:04] <Lenaud01> I just installed kubuntu
[05:05] <Lenaud01> and when I reboot it loads kde and I get a Error - artsmessage Sound server fator error: cpu overload, aborting
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, be carefull what you ask for ^^^^ lol :-)
[05:06] <letmagnau> hi how can i execute a bin archive?
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> letmagnau, you need to make it executable 1 min
[05:07] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I didn't ask for anything except to continue the interesting emerge konversation in -offtopic
[05:07] <letmagnau> how i can make it?
[05:07] <Lenaud01> how about my kubuntu support question?
[05:07] <BluesKaj> !gamrz
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamrz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <TheGateKeeper> letmagnau, chmod +rx scriptname (gives everyone read/execute permission)
[05:08] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, :-)
[05:08] <Lenaud01> when I reboot it loads kde and I get a Error - artsmessage Sound server fator error: cpu overload, aborting?
[05:08] <Jucato> Lenaud01: you're not able to get inside KDE?
[05:08] <Lenaud01> no I am
[05:08] <Lenaud01> I just get that msg over and over again
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> letmagnau, chmod 555 scriptname  does the same job too
[05:09] <Lenaud01> I push ok and it comes back after a min or 2
[05:09] <Jucato> hm..
[05:09] <Lenaud01> and slows the computer way down right before it pops
[05:09] <Jucato> arts.... :(
[05:09] <Lenaud01> yea its an arts msg
[05:09] <Lenaud01> I did not even ask for it lol
[05:10] <Lenaud01> going check the system settings
[05:10] <tzbishop> ca nanybody help config my mic?
[05:10] <Lenaud01> the word server makes it sound like a sound server
[05:10] <Lenaud01> and I dont need that at all
[05:10] <Jucato> arts is a sound server
[05:11] <Jucato> kde uses it for system notificaitons
[05:11] <Jucato> notifications
[05:11] <slyfox> Can somone please help with TrueCrypt ? I want to get it from here http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php    There is one for Ubuntu 6.10 is that the one I should get to install on Kubuntu ?
[05:11] <animimotus> hi
[05:11] <animimotus> please, with aptitude, in command line, how know the dependancies for one paquet?
[05:11] <tzbishop> I can hear the echo of the mic, but i cant use it w/ skype and gizmo. can ANYBODY help me?
[05:11] <LjL> animimotus: aptitude show packagename
[05:11] <Jucato> slyfox: yes. Kubuntu and Ubuntu have the same packages
[05:11] <animimotus> thx LjL
[05:12] <tzbishop> tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png
[05:12] <tzbishop> i have the screenshot
[05:12] <Lenaud01> there a way to fix it or shut it off Jucato?
[05:13] <tzbishop> please, can anyone help me with the microphone?
[05:13] <Jucato> Lenaud01: don't know how to fix it, but I know how to use something other than arts for system notifications
[05:13] <slyfox> Jucato: can I get truecrypt via Adept Manager ?
[05:13] <Jucato> slyfox: you saw it in the Ubuntu repositories, then yes
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop, what's the problem?
[05:15] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: i can hear the echo when i talk on the mic but i cant use skype or gizmo
[05:15] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png
[05:16] <Lenaud01> I will check the wiki thanks Jucato
[05:17] <slyfox> Jucato: I get a depandancy error - dmsetup not installed. But this dmsetup is not in Adept manager
[05:17] <Jucato> hm...
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop, try pressing on the green button to turn it off, & turn the red button on at the bottom, think it will go orange
[05:18] <slyfox> Jucato: Can you please see if you can install it
[05:18] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: i have tried it
[05:18] <Jucato> slyfox: what is the name of the package?
[05:19] <slyfox> Jucato: it is not in the Adept, I got true crypt from here:  http://www.truecrypt.org/faq.php
[05:19] <slyfox> Jucato: sorry, I mean here http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php
[05:19] <Eruantalon> Why doesn't this regexp work? locate -r "grey|gray"
[05:19] <tzbishop> tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png
[05:20] <Jucato> slyfox: ah... you downloaded the .deb?
[05:20] <slyfox> Jucato: Yes, for Ubuntu 6.10
[05:20] <Jucato> slyfox: dmsetup is in Adept
[05:21] <slyfox> Jucato: let me see again
[05:21] <Jucato> !dmsetup | slyfox
[05:21] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop, did it work?
[05:21] <ubotu> dmsetup: The Linux Kernel Device Mapper userspace library. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.02.07-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 88 kB
[05:21] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: no
[05:21] <slyfox> Jucato: are you typing this in Adept "dmsetup" ?
[05:21] <Jucato> slyfox: what are you using? Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager?
[05:22] <Jucato> slyfox: I'm using apt-get
[05:22] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: I have already tried to press buttons, alsamixer, etc....something is wrong
[05:22] <slyfox> Jucato: Adept Manager and it is not there
[05:22] <Jucato> slyfox: it should be there. "apt-cache show dmsetup"
[05:23] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop, I had similar agro with my mike, do you want me to reboot into kubuntu & show you what I have?
[05:23] <slyfox> Jucato: this command "apt-cache show dmsetup" gives me nothing in terminal
[05:23] <TheGateKeeper> mic*
[05:23] <TheGateKeeper> ooops
[05:23] <Jucato> slyfox: then I guess you don't have your repositories enabled. is this a new installation?
[05:24] <slyfox> Jucato: kind of new, but I did enable evrything I saw in Adept amanger
[05:24] <slyfox> Jucato: let me check again
[05:24] <Jucato> slyfox: did you disable the cdrom line?
[05:25] <slyfox> Jucato: now I did
[05:25] <TheGateKeeper> slyfox, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:25] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: if it's going to bother you, it's not necessary
[05:25] <slyfox> Jucato: it is getting the updates again now
[05:25] <Jucato> slyfox: no wonder. if you have the cdrom line still enabled, it will try to look for the installer cd instead of the online repos
[05:25] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop, ok I will reboot brb
[05:26] <dust> I'm trying to compile gaim-encryption, but recivie error messages... first it was 'bout gaim, so I installed gaim-dev, then it gives me "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no" when I
[05:27] <slyfox> Jucato: now I got dmsetup, thank you :-) I will try to install true crypt
[05:27] <dust> try "vsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev" it gives me dependency errors, about libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.12) but it is not going to be install and  Depends: libcairo2-dev (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installe
[05:28] <Eruantalon> Why doesn't this regexp work? locate -r "grey|gray"
[05:29] <Jucato> Eruantalon: might want to try in #bash
[05:30] <Eruantalon> k, thanks
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: k I am back
[05:31] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: could send me a screenshot of you kmix interface?
[05:31] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: 1 min
[05:31] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: like this: tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png  and 8.png
[05:31] <TheHermit> in the kde menu i moved the adept to other menu and now i cant find it ...any idea
[05:32] <Eyeless> create a new shortcut :P
[05:32] <Jucato> TheHermit: try the menu editor?
[05:33] <TheHermit> jucato, i open it and i cant find the adept and i dont knwo which right commands to make a new shortcut
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> I can never remember what's a good screenshot pastebin folks?
[05:34] <Lenaud01> darn wiki fix did not work :(
[05:34] <Jucato> TheHermit: kdesu adept
[05:34] <Lenaud01> arts server crashing anyone know fix?
[05:34] <TheHermit> jucato , okay
[05:35] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: u can send it by email
[05:35] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: knsapshot to take the screenshot
[05:35] <TheHermit> jucato, Done Thanks
[05:36] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: tzbishop2k@yahoo.es
[05:36] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: there is a pastebin that let's you do this, 1 min while I find it
[05:36] <tzbishop> ok!
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: not is a public place lol
[05:37] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: u can email me if u want
[05:37] <dominik> hello world
[05:37] <TheHermit> juato , i had this command adpet cant found
[05:38] <lovloss> where does lubuntu put c++ libraries for qt?
[05:38] <lovloss> *kubuntu
[05:38] <TheHermit> starnge ha
[05:38] <Jucato> TheHermit: it's adept, not adpet
[05:38] <Lenaud01> how do I stop the arts server msgs :(
[05:39] <TheHermit> jucato, okay i take it copy past
[05:39] <Jucato> Lenaud01: kill artsd
[05:39] <TheHermit> okay okay
[05:39] <TheHermit> sorry
[05:39] <Lenaud01> would I not have to do that everytime then?
[05:40] <TheHermit> jucato, Same result
[05:40] <Jucato> Lenaud01: not if you don't use arts :D
[05:40] <TheHermit> wait a seconed
[05:40] <Jucato> TheHermit: er sorry.. are you on Edgy?
[05:40] <Lenaud01> dumb question then Jucato im newbie :| how would I kill it
[05:41] <TheHermit> jucato, yes
[05:41] <Jucato> Lenaud01: Ctrl+Esc, look for artsd :)
[05:41] <Jucato> TheHermit: oh my bad... it's "kdesu adept_manager"
[05:41] <TheHermit> jucato , no bad me bec if i think i would do it Never mind
[05:41] <Lenaud01> wow cant get much more like windows there lol thats easy
[05:42] <TheHermit> jucato, Bec add-remove the same but _installer :)
[05:43] <Jucato> TheHermit: yeah.... sorry about that. I forgot they renamed adept in Edgy
[05:43] <Jucato> in Dapper it was plain "adept"
[05:43] <TheHermit> jucato, ok
[05:44] <magnus_> newbie I have disk full because of too much KTorrent. As Kubuntu will not start I need to delete files, rm from th consol makes no different so now I try to run Kbunto from the CD and thinks I can run fsck on the normal HDD. My problem is how do I mount th harddriv from the Kubuntu I start from the CD
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kmixswitches1ss7dl.png
[05:44] <TheHermit> jucato, if i had i themes (style) How Can i install it ...Any idea
[05:45] <TheHermit> jucato, i cant From System seeting
[05:45] <barra> so , I updated dapper to edgy, everything seems fine , except for this one issue, if I close the lid on my laptop and it supends, when I open the lid again my wireless doesn't reconnect. any ideass??
[05:45] <Jucato> !changethemes | TheHermit
[05:45] <ubotu> TheHermit: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kmixswitches2ss4dh.png
[05:45] <TheHermit> jucato, okay
[05:45] <tzbishop> TheGateKeeper: lets change it
[05:46] <tzbishop> thanks
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> tzbishop: yw :-) that is what works for me hope it does for you
[05:46] <Lenaud01> Jucato I did the ctrl+esc got the process manager told it to kill artsd and it went away and then pops right back?
[05:47] <Jucato> Lenaud01: hm... really strange... I wonder what's using arts like that
[05:48] <Lenaud01> not sure
[05:48] <Lenaud01> trying to find what is doing that
[05:49] <Jucato> do you have KDE Session Manager set to restore from a previous session?
[05:50] <Lenaud01> fresh install
[05:50] <Lenaud01> I solved it though :)
[05:50] <Lenaud01> dont know if its kosher but its working lol
[05:51] <Stonez> I've installed Azereus, but it won't start. Could it be because i need some java installed ?
[05:51] <Stonez> and if so, how do I install that?
[05:51] <Jucato> Lenaud01: yeah, KDE/Kubuntu defaults to restore from previous session
[05:51] <Jucato> !java | Stonez
[05:51] <ubotu> Stonez: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:51] <Stonez> thanks
[05:51] <Lenaud01> with your tip of ctrl+etc I seen that artsd was loading from /var/usr/bin I think it was so I just went to that dir and did sudo rm -r artsd and killed the process and then it died and did not come back lol
[05:52] <Jucato>  /var/usr/bin??
[05:52] <barra> ^ seems like an odd place for artsd to be running from
[05:52] <Lenaud01> I ment /usr/bin/artsd
[05:52] <Jucato> :D
[05:52] <Jucato> omg?!?!
[05:52] <Jucato> you deleted artsd?!?!
[05:53] <Jucato> O.o
[05:53] <Lenaud01> that bad :(
[05:53] <barra> if you ever want to use artsd again then yes
[05:53] <Lenaud01> cant I just install it again
[05:53] <Jucato> definitely
[05:53] <Jucato> bad
[05:54] <CVirus> sudo apt-get --reinstall install arts
[05:54] <CVirus> wouldn't that fix it ?
[05:54] <Skrot> Proably
[05:54] <Skrot> Probably*
[05:54] <Jucato> probably
[05:54] <Lenaud01> would that get me the correct version
[05:54] <Jucato> Lenaud01: you don't have normal access to that directory for a reason...
[05:54] <Lenaud01> the wiki says I need the lower version to not get the crash and cpu overload error every 5 sec
[05:55] <Jucato> what wiki?
[05:55] <Lenaud01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems
[05:55] <Lenaud01> aRtsd dies on every logging in, and comes up with an error message every five seconds after.
[05:55] <Lenaud01> that fix did not work
[05:56] <Jucato> hm... KDE 3.5 is no longer beta
[05:56] <Jucato> yeah, definitely an old page
[05:57] <Jucato> you won't have any system sound notifications anymore since you deleted artsd
[05:58] <Jucato> I'm guessing that the problem could have been from restarting from a previous session
[05:58] <me> does anone know the repositions where i can find libxine-extracodecs
[05:59] <me> *repository
[05:59] <Jucato> !multiverse | me
[05:59] <ubotu> me: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <TheHermit> There Is Kde 4
[05:59] <TheHermit> Right
[06:00] <Stonez> I'm having problems installing java. This is the error I get: Couldn't find the package sun-java5-bin (translated from danish)
[06:00] <Jucato> TheHermit: not yet
[06:00] <Stonez> How do i fix that?
[06:00] <me> damn... ive activated them allready but adept cant find this pakage...
[06:00] <Jucato> me: you might not have enabled the correct multiverse
[06:00] <Jucato> Stonez: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:00] <Stonez> yes
[06:00] <TheHermit> jucato, i find themes for it i dont know how on kde-look.org
[06:01] <Stonez> 2 lines with multiverse
[06:01] <Stonez> removed the "#"
[06:01] <Jucato> TheHermit: KDE 4 themes? they do not exist yet
[06:01] <Skrot> Hi. Is there some sort of software to read information about your RAM (how many chips, what kind, etc)?
[06:01] <Jucato> Stonez: no, not those
[06:01] <Lenaud01> trying sudo apt-get --reinstall install arts Jucato
[06:01] <Stonez> oh?
[06:01] <Jucato> Stonez: you need to *add* the word "multiverse" the primary universe line
[06:02] <Stonez> where do I add it?
[06:02] <Jucato> (the one with "edgy"  only, no "edgy-security" or "edgy-updates"
[06:02] <Stonez> hmm ok
[06:02] <TheHermit> jucato, see it if you dont believe me http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=9
[06:02] <Unt0uchable> wad up peeps?
[06:02] <Jucato> beside "universe"
[06:02] <Unt0uchable> Negro here from Jamaica
[06:02] <Jucato> ha!! silly kde-look
[06:03] <TheHermit> hahhaahah
[06:03] <Unt0uchable> Jucato, where you from kid?
[06:03] <Jucato> TheHermit: how can you theme a KDE version that cannot be really used yet... silly kde-look
[06:03] <Lenaud01> you use kde Jucato or different WM?
[06:03] <Jucato> Lenaud01: pure KDE
[06:03] <TheHermit> yes you are right
[06:03] <Stonez> Jucato:  is this the one? deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[06:04] <barra> so , I updated dapper to edgy, everything seems fine , except for this one issue, if I close the lid on my laptop and it supends, when I open the lid again my wireless doesn't reconnect. any ideass??
[06:04] <Jucato> Stonez: no, the other one with "universe". just add "multiverse" beside it
[06:04] <Lenaud01> it was Knotify that kept opening arts by the way Jucato I figured that out
[06:04] <BluesKaj> Unt0uchable, you LIE! , yer in Canucksville !
[06:04] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, I'm from Jamaica kid
[06:05] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, http://www.myspace.com/tappa_taps4eva
[06:05] <BluesKaj> <-- no kid , I'm 63
[06:05] <Stonez> Jucato: oh ok, i found it. There's two lines. Add multiverse to both?
[06:05] <magnus_> I have 0 available when doing df nithings happn when I remove files using rm any help
[06:05] <Jucato> Stonez: yep
[06:05] <Stonez> ok thanks :)
[06:05] <dromer> how do I run a .jar file?
[06:05] <me> ive in my repositorys Hit http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources and Hit http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages
[06:06] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, that's how we thugs from the streets spit cuz
[06:06] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, you know how it is
[06:06] <BluesKaj> no i don't
[06:06] <me> and this is what i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2752/
[06:07] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, nvm kid
[06:07] <DeadFishMan> dromer: Assuming that you the Java Runtime installed, type: java -jar filename.jar
[06:07] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, where you at?
[06:08] <ionny> eii ce qualcuno
[06:08] <ionny> mi date una mano
[06:08] <dromer> thank you DeadFishMan
[06:08] <DeadFishMan> dromer: yw
[06:08] <DeadFishMan> !it | ionny
[06:08] <ubotu> ionny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:08] <BluesKaj> northern ontario
[06:09] <bronze_0_1> kold!
[06:09] <BluesKaj> nice and clear ..we get REAL winter here, not soem grey/brown crappy facsimile
[06:10] <bronze_0_1> ja
[06:10] <barra> I get a semi winter weather, here in connecticut
[06:10] <Unt0uchable> BluesKaj, I'm in Brossard Quebec cuz
[06:10] <Stonez> I've just installed sun-java5-bin, but Azereus still won't start up :(
[06:10] <Stonez> what could be the cause of that?
[06:10] <Jucato> !java | Stonez
[06:10] <ubotu> Stonez: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:10] <BluesKaj> we can ski , snowboard, play hockey outside , snowmobile , icefish  :)
[06:10] <Jucato> Stonez: did you follow the procedure to select the default Java version?
[06:10] <Stonez> well, I just did that
[06:11] <Jucato> Stonez: did you choose Sun Java as your default Java?
[06:11] <Jucato> !offtopic
[06:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:11] <Unt0uchable> NEways
[06:11] <Stonez> hmm, i pressed enter twice, said "ok" and "accept"
[06:11] <Unt0uchable> I'm outta this biach
[06:11] <Stonez> i think
[06:11] <Stonez> Kubuntu is killing me :/
[06:12] <Jucato> Stonez: did you run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"?
[06:12] <Stonez> no, will do that now.
[06:12] <Jucato> Stonez: have you tried KTorrent?
[06:12] <Stonez> yes, but I can't download porn with that one..
[06:12] <Jucato> ...
[06:12] <Stonez> from fileporn.org, demonoid works fine..
[06:12] <bronze_0_1> ^_^
[06:12] <Stonez> yea yea.. ;)
[06:12] <Stonez> being honest.
[06:12] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: I download porn all the time with that one :P
[06:12] <Jucato> .......
[06:12] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: from fileporn.org ?
[06:13] <Stonez> I won't here
[06:13] <Stonez> but other trackers work fine
[06:13] <toutpt> please, i would like to know how well is linux on mac-intel
[06:13] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: Never tried that tracker but some trackers are a little bit picky about the clients that they support
[06:13] <toutpt> is the hardware well supported now ?
[06:13] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: i checked the list to see if Ktorrent is banned, it's not.
[06:14] <Stonez> Jucato: i just tried sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:14] <Stonez> azereus still won't start
[06:14] <Jucato> hm...
[06:15] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: I download a few anime trackers that banned BitComet and pretty much only accept uTorrent and Azureus
[06:15] <Jucato> Stonez: try starting it from the command line
[06:15] <Stonez> ok
[06:15] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: argh, that sucks.. There is no utorrent for linux, and azereus won't work here.. yet..
[06:15] <me> hm.. can someone say me where i can edit the reposiorys manual? (the file location)
[06:16] <Jucato> me: can't do it in Adept Manager?
[06:16] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: There are several good bit torrent clients for Linux, no need to use Windows ones. But uTorrent runs just fine under wine, fyi.
[06:16] <Stonez> hmm ok
[06:16] <toutpt> me: /etc/apt/source.list
[06:17] <Stonez> erhm, yes?
[06:17] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: But try to start Azureus from the command line and then use the !paste to post the result so that we can take a look
[06:17] <toutpt> adept sucks atm
[06:17] <Stonez> ok,
[06:17] <BluesKaj> ktorrent works well, even the beta version , altho the gui crashes sometimes
[06:17] <Stonez> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <Stonez> here it is : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2757/
[06:18] <me> i can... but there is something mytherious.. i want to install libxine-extracodecs but this is what i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2753/
[06:18] <me> toutot: ty
[06:19] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: No idea, man. How did you installed Azureus? Using apt?
[06:19] <Jucato> me: you don't have the correct multiverse enabled
[06:19] <Jucato> me: look for the line "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and add "multiverse" to the end of that line
[06:20] <me> instead of universe?
[06:20] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: I'm so stressed out, I don't remember :/ Maybe it'l come back in a minute or two..
[06:20] <Jucato> me: no
[06:20] <DeadFishMan> Stonez, LOL
[06:20] <Stonez> but what about BitTorrent
[06:20] <Stonez> i see that in Adept
[06:20] <Jucato> me: just *ADD* multiverse to universe. so that it will look like "universe multiverse"
[06:20] <Stonez> hmm ok Jucato
[06:20] <Jucato> Stonez: huh?
[06:20] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: You are doing fine... Dont be to harsh on yourself... :)
[06:21] <Stonez> :/
[06:21] <me> ah ok w8
[06:21] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: That is the official client, which is crap. You dont want that one. Believe me.
[06:21] <Stonez> hah ooh no... life is soo hard in linux :
[06:22] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: It is just a bunch of command line utilities and a few python(?) scripts glued together on a lame gui
[06:22] <Stonez> oh ok...
[06:22] <Stonez> I guess Linux just isnt' compatible with porn :/
[06:22] <Stonez> sad..
[06:22] <BluesKaj> wanna bet :)
[06:22] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: There are several good bit torrent clients out there: Azureus, KTorrent, QTorrent, Opera (which has a BT client built-in), etc...
[06:22] <Jucato> !pornview | Stonez
[06:23] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-6 (edgy), package size 217 kB, installed size 656 kB
[06:23] <Stonez> hah wow :D
[06:23] <Stonez> i'm impressed :D
[06:23] <BluesKaj> Opera browser client works ...tried it once
[06:23] <Jucato> be good :)
[06:23] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: wich is your favorite torrent client?
[06:23] <Jucato> !language
[06:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:23] <Jucato> and
[06:23] <Jucato> !offtopic
[06:23] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:23] <Stonez> Jucato: i will... no hanky panky for me... yet..
[06:23] <DeadFishMan> Currently I use KTorrent and Azureus
[06:24] <Jucato> ok, good night
[06:24] <me> jucato: jeha! ty very much!
[06:24] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: ok, dare I ask how you installed Azereus?
[06:24] <Jucato> me: ok. have fun
[06:24] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: apt-get :)
[06:24] <Stonez> :/
[06:24] <Stonez> but i don't see it inthere
[06:25] <DeadFishMan> So you probably need to enable Universe and Multiverse on your sources.list
[06:25] <DeadFishMan> !multiverse | Stonez
[06:25] <ubotu> Stonez: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:25] <Stonez> hmm, though I just did that, but will have a look again
[06:25] <tzbishop> the sound of the mike is very poor. it seems that i am not using +20dB. help me!
[06:25] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: If you already did that, then perhaps you forgot to run apt-get update?
[06:26] <sfpavel> i'm trying to install gcc but i dont understand the thing with the configureing before the proper installation..how do i do it?
[06:26] <Stonez> did that too, but maybe i added multiverse in the wrong line
[06:26] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: (Synaptic and Adept are both supposed to do that for you but I can hardly remember how they work, so... )
[06:27] <DeadFishMan> sfpavel: If you need to install a working toolchain to compile apps, use: apt-get install build-essential
[06:27] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: maybe you could have a look at it? :)
[06:27] <DeadFishMan> sfpavel: K/Ubuntu will take care of the rest for you
[06:27] <Stonez> !paste
[06:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:29] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: If you wan't to have a look, feel free to do so ;) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2759/
[06:29] <dec_> hello i am new to kubuntu and i am trying to find on my system software sources to add third party sources i cannot find it on the menu?
[06:29] <TheHermit> Tip, Do you know That Opera More Secure Than FireFox Till Now
[06:29] <Lenaud01> dec_ did you add universal repository?
[06:30] <dec_> where do i add that i am trying to add a specific repository to install beryl
[06:30] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: OK, your problem is that you added multiverse to some of the lines on the sources.list but not all of them and in some cases, you added it to lines that are commented out (lines that start with an # sign)
[06:31] <dec_> how do i fix that?
[06:31] <TheHermit> Mayebe some send him source list
[06:31] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: Make sure that you added it to all the lines that do not have a # on the beginning, save it and then run apt-get update
[06:31] <sebbar> is kde 3.5.6 for kubuntu out already?
[06:31] <Stonez> oh ok
[06:31] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: You should be able to see 20000+ apps afterwards
[06:32] <dec_> so what do i add to the lines
[06:32] <DeadFishMan> !xgl | dec_
[06:32] <ubotu> dec_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:32] <me> is there a good maths program to draw vectors?
[06:32] <DeadFishMan> me: Try Inkscape and XaraLX
[06:33] <DeadFishMan> me: Ow... Math program?
[06:33] <DeadFishMan> me: Sorry... :)
[06:33] <me> ^^ k i will ty
[06:34] <DeadFishMan> !gnuplot | me
[06:34] <ubotu> gnuplot: A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.0-3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[06:35] <mcchicken> its me back again!!!
[06:35] <mcchicken> i have another problem
[06:36] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: i still don't see it. Should i remove '#' from some of the lines?
[06:37] <Stonez> !paste
[06:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <Stonez> DeadFishMan: this is what it looks like now, but I still don't see azereus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2760/
[06:40] <ionny> ciao
[06:40] <Stonez> Could anyone inhere please help me install azereus through adept?
[06:40] <Stonez> i don't see it in adept
[06:40] <Stonez> how do i fix that?
[06:41] <sfpavel> azureus is not for linux
[06:41] <ionny> ei ciao a tuttii
[06:41] <ionny> neo mule
[06:41] <sfpavel> use rtorrent
[06:41] <ionny> is for linux??
[06:41] <Stonez> it's based on java..
[06:41] <Stonez> java runs on all platforms
[06:41] <ionny> ch estronzzata
[06:42] <ionny> voglio andare via
[06:42] <mcchicken> i have a problem whilst trying to download a package:""ther wan error commiting changes.possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[06:42] <ubuntu> hola
[06:42] <mcchicken> how can i fix this?
[06:43] <slyfox> Guys which media player do you use for you music Library? Amarok has a Collection Scan problem.
[06:43] <wilman> my macromedia doesn't work anymore on youtube, it says old version
[06:43] <ayuda> hola, he particionado con partition magic y me ha dado un error y ahora no me arranca el windows ni me deja instalar el kubuntu
[06:43] <ayuda> alguien tiene alguna idea
[06:44] <mcchicken> any help?
[06:44] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: When you run apt-cache search azureus what do you get?
[06:44] <DeadFishMan> Stonez: apt-cache search azureus
[06:44] <ayuda> estoy trabajando desde el cd de kubuntu sin poderlo instalar
[06:45] <Stonez> ok, i'll try it when my update is complete. I removed '#' from all the lines (not the comments)
[06:45] <DeadFishMan> !es | ayuda
[06:45] <ubotu> ayuda: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:45] <ayuda> gracias
[06:46] <ionny> io sn italiano
[06:46] <DeadFishMan> slyfox: I had that problem with Amarok but it is trivial to fix. Ask the guys at #amarok
[06:46] <mcchicken> sudo apt-get update, is that the correct command to update?
[06:46] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: yes
[06:47] <ionny> come si fa a cmbiare canale voglio anda su qello ita
[06:47] <mcchicken> can you help me with my previosu question?
[06:47] <DeadFishMan> !it | ionny
[06:47] <ubotu> ionny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:47] <sfpavel> whats the apt-get install command for GLIB?
[06:47] <BluesKaj> Stonez, the # are the comments ...removing them is uncommenting the repos , making it accessible
[06:47] <DeadFishMan> mc
[06:48] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: What application are you trying to install? Looks like apt is warning you that the application is miisng a dependency or something like that and it may break your system
[06:48] <mcchicken> i have tried many
[06:49] <mcchicken> all i want basically is c compiler so i can compile programs from source
[06:49] <mcchicken> and i cant get the "gcc"
[06:49] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: Then try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:49] <me> DeadFishMan: hm... is there somethine easyer ^^ i thought something about vector(AB) = (2/3/1) and then i can draw them... ^^
[06:49] <me> *easier
[06:50] <mcchicken> i ahve already done this. (btw is it not meant to do anything when you do a command)
[06:50] <DeadFishMan> me: I believe that there are several math packages out there that will allow you to plot graphics from math equations but I do not know much about them
[06:50] <mcchicken> am i correct?
[06:50] <DeadFishMan> me: Some of them are hard to use and require some deep understanding to use
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> DeadFishMan: thats good info.  are there any other packages like that? "toolchians" I guess?
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> *chains
[06:51] <me> DeadFishMan: ok ty anyway
[06:51] <mikki> Hi, i downloaded a program that was a .zip file, and in the zip it was a bin folder and alot of .jar files. How do i install it ??? thx
[06:51] <mcchicken> but if a command is successfull does it actually do anything?
[06:51] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: build-essential is a meta package that points to all the packages needed for a basic toolchain
[06:51] <mcchicken> so it opens adept?
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> DeadFishMan: is there a list of the Meta packages anywhere?
[06:52] <DeadFishMan> bronze_0_1: I dont know
[06:52] <bronze_0_1> k, thanks anyway
[06:52] <DeadFishMan> bronze_0_1: They are listed when you use apt-cache anyway
[06:52] <mcchicken> ?
[06:52] <bronze_0_1> oh
[06:53] <bronze_0_1> excellent. Thanks!
[06:53] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: No. It will try to fetch all the packages needed and them install them. You should be in good shape to compile apps afterwards
[06:53] <mcchicken> ok, i have done this
[06:53] <dust> Anyone know if there are jahshaka deb's for edgy availible somewhere? there dev's have dapper and breezy respositorys, but from what I've read in the forums, they don't work?
[06:53] <mcchicken> it explains build-essential is not availabel but is referred by another package
[06:53] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: So you probably already have gcc, automake and friends
[06:54] <bronze_0_1> 23,609 packages.... heh!
[06:54] <mcchicken> but i have just tryed to compile and it says i have no suitable c compiler in $path!
[06:54] <animimotus> doesit exist in qt an analogous application to zim (in gtk) http://www.pardus.nl/projects/  ?
[06:54] <mcchicken> so i dont have it
[06:54] <mikki> Hi, i downloaded a program that was a .zip file, and in the zip it was a folder with alot of .jar files. How do i install it ??? thx
[06:54] <DeadFishMan> !build-essential
[06:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:55] <DeadFishMan> mcchicken: Look for further information on the link above
[06:55] <dust> mikki: that's a java application, try "java appname.jar"
[06:55] <mikki> dust: ok
[06:56] <Lenaud01> wow adding repositories is a lot easier now its been a while since I used kubuntu last time I had to do that in a text editor lol
[06:56] <dust> mikki: if that works, you can make a link to that command line in your k.meny
[06:58] <Kyral> Lenaud01: Nothing wrong with a text editor
[06:58] <Lenaud01> agree Kyral
[06:58] <Kyral> Lenaud01: Typing != Hard :P
[06:58] <Lenaud01> I never said that lol
[06:58] <Lenaud01> its just a nice little feature
[06:58] <Kyral> Apologies then
[06:58] <elwario91> hello
[06:58] <Lenaud01> Vim is my fav so I like text editors no worries lol
[06:59] <elwario91> but a bit complicayted xD
[06:59] <TopDawg216> hey everyone
[06:59] <elwario91> hey
[06:59] <TopDawg216> does evolution support RSS subscriptions?
[06:59] <mcchicken> ok ia m doing as many upgrades as i can
[07:00] <BluesKaj> Lenaud01, copy and paste into sources.list works for me :)
[07:00] <barra> so , I updated dapper to edgy, everything seems fine , except for this one issue, if I close the lid on my laptop and it supends, when I open the lid again my wireless doesn't reconnect. any ideass??
[07:00] <stamen> hi
[07:00] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[07:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:00] <stamen> tell me a good emulator for OS
[07:00] <stamen> exept vmware
[07:00] <stamen> except vmware
[07:01] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Tried QEMU?
[07:01] <eisma> could someone walk me through installing flash and mozilla activex?
[07:01] <stamen> is it gui
[07:01] <mikki> dust: i get this error:  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ant/jar, and i dont know witch .jar file it is
[07:01] <elwario91> xen?
[07:01] <stamen> DeadFishMan: is it GUI
[07:01] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Also there is this new thing that has been opensourced recently: VirtualBox... You may want to look into that
[07:01] <BluesKaj> stamen, don't...why bother ..if ya need to use windows ,dual boot yer pc...it's much safer hardware/driver - wise
[07:01] <DeadFishMan> stamen: No it is not, but it does have a few GUI front-ends easy to use
[07:02] <stamen> I know, but when I want to use photoshop
[07:02] <kubuntian> guys
[07:02] <TopDawg216> elsma:  check this out. It should help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=13335857
[07:02] <kubuntian> it's impossible.. it's a mess to find how to add page numbers to openoffice (to all the document)
[07:02] <stamen> I must wait till it reboot than to make what to make and after that again reboott
[07:02] <stamen> ans so on\
[07:02] <kubuntian> does anybody know how?
[07:02] <stamen> boring
[07:02] <TopDawg216> wait
[07:02] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Photoshop runs under wine. A bit troublesome to set it up, but it runs flawlessly
[07:02] <TopDawg216> nevermind, let me find the thread
[07:02] <Andale> hello at everyone... What must I do, to change keyboard languages_
[07:02] <stamen> I tried today to install CS2
[07:03] <stamen> but the setup crashesh
[07:03] <stamen> but the setup crashes
[07:03] <stamen> with wine
[07:03] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Oww... CS2 does not run yet IIRC
[07:03] <elwario91> setxkbmap
[07:03] <elwario91> Andale : tried setxkbmap?
[07:03] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Anything up to version 7 should be supported, though
[07:03] <dope> can someone recommend a tutorial or something on how to use VMware
[07:03] <dope> it will just not work
[07:03] <stamen> I will try to find older versions
[07:04] <Dr_willis> dope,  vmware server or client?
[07:04] <Andale> elwario91: thanks :)
[07:04] <stamen> 10x
[07:04] <elwario91> lol ;)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> dope,  the 'ubuntu hacks' book had a chapter on installing vmware server.
[07:04] <dope> uh i think player
[07:04] <elwario91> but I think that on next reboot you will have to do it again
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[07:04] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:04] <slyfox> Anyone tried banshee ?
[07:04] <pgdown> dope: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=13335980
[07:04] <elwario91> Andale : I think that on next reboot you will have to do it gaian
[07:05] <Andale> elwario91: on next reboot... I must reconfigure ppp :-(
[07:05] <elwario91> ok
[07:05] <elwario91> what modem?
[07:06] <Lenaud01> !beryl
[07:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:06] <elwario91> I go for a few seconds for installing the nvidia driver son ;)
[07:06] <elwario91> soon ;)
[07:06] <Lenaud01> !xgl
[07:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:06] <Andale> elwario91: I'm using a live distro...
[07:07] <elwario91> ok
[07:07] <elwario91> which?
[07:07] <Andale> elwario91: because... My Bios doesn't support My HD :-/ I use a old Pc :-D
[07:08] <kubuntian> it's impossible.. it's a mess to find how to add page numbers to openoffice (to all the document)
[07:08] <kubuntian> does anybody know how?
[07:08] <elwario91> Doesn't kubuntu work with  you hdd?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> isent that a header/footer setting for openoffice ?
[07:09] <dope> will vmware let me access my exisiting windows xp install?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> dope,  perhaps.. but i wouldent advise trying that.
[07:10] <dope> dammit
[07:10] <Dr_willis> dope,  xp will see all new hardware and stuff.. and may start to install all sorts of different drivers
[07:10] <dope> cause that's what i wanted
[07:10] <Dr_willis> you could install XP under vmware if ya wanted.
[07:10] <Andale> elwario91: grub write me error 18, when I start pc
[07:10] <elwario91> ok
[07:10] <elwario91> can't you install it on /boot ?
[07:11] <elwario91> not on the mbr?
[07:11] <dope> i'll just try wine
[07:11] <elwario91> or try to add linux in the windows bootloader
[07:11] <eriklo> Why can I only see /home and /media in KDE file browsers?
[07:11] <Andale> elwario91: I must upgrade my bios, or move /boot in another HD :)
[07:11] <elwario91> ok
[07:11] <elwario91> good luck
[07:11] <elwario91> ;)
[07:11] <dope> eriklo: you have to select show hidden files
[07:11] <elwario91> I reboot my pc for the 3d acceleration
[07:11] <elwario91> bye+
[07:11] <eriklo> dope: hehehehe
[07:12] <eriklo> dope: thanks
[07:12] <dope> np
[07:14] <DeadFishMan> bye @ all
[07:15] <slyfox> mount -t smbfs               can someone please tell me what does  "-t" mean ?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> man mount, its the filesystem type
[07:16] <slyfox> -t   stabds for type
[07:16] <slyfox> ?
[07:16] <slyfox> syands
[07:17] <slyfox> stands
[07:17] <slyfox> Dr_willis: Sorry I am anoob
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Yes.. the type of filesystem is given with the -t option.
[07:17] <eriklo> slyfox: you maybe want to use the cifs type instead of smbfs
[07:18] <slyfox> eriklo: can you please tell me the difference and how do I do that ?
[07:19] <Dr_willis>  -t cifs instead of -t smbfs
[07:19] <Dr_willis> of course mount -t smbfs is not a 'correct' mount command.. it needs more info
[07:20] <slyfox> Dr_willis: yeah,
[07:20] <Dr_willis> mount -t  smbfs -o username=<username> //<servername>/<sharename> /mnt/point/
[07:20] <slyfox> "/192.168.1.7/G    /media/battlestation/G smbfs dmask=777,fmask=777    0    0"
[07:21] <slyfox> would look like this: "/192.168.1.7/G    /media/battlestation/G clifs dmask=777,fmask=777    0    0"  ?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> a fstab entry is a littel differnt layout then doing it from the command line.
[07:22] <slyfox> Dr_willis: my problem is detailed here: Please read the second last post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337482&page=5
[07:22] <piotrek> czewsc
[07:22] <piotrek> czesc
[07:23] <Dr_willis> /servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 0
[07:23] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I am struggling with it for weeks now.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> read that 'using samba' book May be of some help. :)
[07:23] <kubuntian> Dr_willis: yeah, but i have to do it for every single page!!!!!!
[07:23] <kubuntian> while in M$ one there's simply a insert page number command that put it in every page
[07:23] <piotrek> jak sie polaczyc z telefonem w kbluetoothd??
[07:24] <kubuntian> answer in PVT, i will be away and i want to be sure to get the message
[07:24] <mucs> hi all.  when i use konqueror to browse smb shares, how do i connect as a specific user and not as 'guest', which is what it is defaulting to?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> kubuntian,  id frogitten whateve you were talking about.. ages ago i rember setting up the header/footers in the wordprocessors to have a page # and other info at the bottom of every page.
[07:26] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  personally id say install smb4k and use that to access/scan/mount the samba shares as you need them.
[07:26] <slyfox> Dr_willis: do i need to first install clifs from Adept ?
[07:26] <slyfox> Dr_willis:  smb4k never is that something new and easy to sue? Never heard of it
[07:27] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  you are making this too hard.. and not understanding the fundamentsla.. smbfs and cifs are filesystems
[07:27] <Dr_willis> smb4k is a samba/smb share browser/mounter tool
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !info smb4k
[07:27] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[07:27] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  whats the 'core' of your proboem? you cant play media files from konqueror without them getting downloaded first?
[07:27] <slyfox> Dr_willis: Exactly !
[07:28] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  by using smb4k - it will mount the shares to the users home dir.. then you can access them
[07:28] <Lenaud01> I got kbfx installed though adept but it is not editing my taskbar at all?
[07:28] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I want network browsing to work like in Windows and also be able to manage my windows shared music Amarok
[07:29] <Dr_willis> of course you shouldbe able to put the right entrys in the fstab to have the shares mounted anyway.  but smb4k can do it also.
[07:30] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I got smb4k installed how do I use it ?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> run it..
[07:30] <Dr_willis> and start clicking.
[07:30] <slyfox> Dr_willis: in terminal or do I jsut start konqueror ?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> You proberly need to 'suid' the smbmnt and one other command toi let a user fully mount the shares
[07:30] <Dr_willis> smb4k is a program.. run the program
[07:31] <slyfox> Dr_willis: ok, let me see
[07:31] <Lenaud01> I got kbfx installed though adept but it is not editing my taskbar at all?
[07:31] <BluesKaj> !smb4k
[07:31] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[07:32] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  the commands sudo chmod u+s `which smbmnt`    and  sudo chmod u+s `which smbumount`   may be needed to let smb4k alllow users to mount/umount  the shares  properly
[07:32] <elwario91> hello back
[07:32] <slyfox> Dr_willis:
[07:32] <slyfox> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:32] <slyfox> smbmnt failed: 1
[07:32] <elwario91> I have some questions about kubuntu
[07:33] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  you dident read what i just posted.. :) actually better to use the following commands
[07:33] <tsdgeos> elwario91: then ask them :D
[07:33] <elwario91> I think the panel on the bottom isn't in the original kde color :( is it right?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  the commands sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt`    and  sudo chmod +s `which smbumount`   may be needed to let smb4k alllow users to mount/umount  the shares  properly
[07:33] <elwario91> how to set it as defualt?
[07:33] <slyfox> Dr_willis: yeah, where do I post these? just cut and paste in teh terminal ?
[07:33] <BluesKaj> I recomend installing Komba ...it's like a lanbrowser that runs on top of samba and it works ...less buggy then smb4k ,
[07:34] <elwario91> ??
[07:34] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  given thats thats where you type in commands... yes.. :)
[07:34] <elwario91> can someone help me?
[07:34] <BluesKaj> elwario91, just ask
[07:34] <Dr_willis> !info komba
[07:34] <ubotu> Package komba does not exist in any distro I know
[07:34] <Dr_willis> !info gnomba
[07:34] <elwario91> I already asked :P
[07:34] <ubotu> Package gnomba does not exist in any distro I know
[07:35] <BluesKaj> !komba2
[07:35] <ubotu> komba2: KDE Samba browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.73.beta-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 748 kB
[07:35] <slyfox> Dr_willis: isntalled komba, but cant find it anywhere, and Alt+F2 does nto launch it
[07:35] <elwario91> how to make the bar at the bottom with the normal kde color?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  you mean smb4k ?
[07:35] <slyfox> Dr_willis: komba also
[07:35] <Dr_willis> which smb4k   --->  /usr/bin/smb4k
[07:36] <Dr_willis> I knwo nothing about komba.
[07:36] <slyfox> Dr_willis: what do I do with "sudo chmod +s" ?
[07:36] <elwario91> ??????????
[07:36] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  those commands are needed to let smb4k mount the shares.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> no idea if knomba2 has the same issue or not
[07:37] <slyfox> slyfox: but where do I use them and how specifically ?
[07:37] <tamacracka> This may seem like a stupid question, but how do i check my Hard drive space?
[07:37] <slyfox> knomba2 does not even see network computers
[07:37] <elwario91> right click?
[07:37] <voicu> how do i format a diskette?
[07:38] <voicu> sorry the noob question
[07:38] <voicu> *for the
[07:38] <tsdgeos> voicu: kfloppy should help
[07:38] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I get this error when I try to access a specific folder via smb4k
[07:38] <slyfox> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:38] <slyfox> smbmnt failed: 1
[07:39] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  the commands sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt`    and  sudo chmod +s `which smbumount`    to mount/umount  the shares  properly
[07:39] <Dr_willis> for the 3rd time....
[07:39] <Dr_willis>  sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt` &&  sudo chmod +s `which smbumount`
[07:39] <kinodok2> salve
[07:40] <Dr_willis> knomba2 - seems to work.. but  just asked for the samba password in the terminal it launched from.. Odd...
[07:40] <kinodok2> ho un problema con kubuntu
[07:40] <kinodok2> sono riuscito ad installarlo in modalit testuale
[07:40] <slyfox> Dr_willis:  "which smbmnt" what is that do I type it as is or do I type in specific network address with shared folder ?
[07:40] <sfpavel> when installing gimp it gets stuck on something about GLIB...where do i get the package?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> cut and paste that line..
[07:40] <sfpavel> and what package?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> to the shell.
[07:41] <elwario91> glibc?
[07:41] <kinodok2> ops
[07:41] <Dr_willis> `which smbmnt`   is a command that gets ran then pipes its output to the OTHER command. :)
[07:41] <kinodok2> only english?
[07:41] <slyfox> Dr_willis: Ok, now it worked
[07:41] <Dr_willis> bash fundamentals. :)
[07:42] <kinodok2> sorry
[07:42] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I need to read about this soe more, I am a noob and I want to understand what is going on so that I can do it myself next time
[07:42] <tsdgeos> !it
[07:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:42] <voicu> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:42] <slyfox> Dr_willis: SO this way I have to do this procedure every time I reboot. Is there a way to mount shared folders automatically?
[07:43] <kinodok2> tank you
[07:43] <rollinghoo> ewewew
[07:44] <virnik> hi there
[07:44] <virnik> I am asking here, because in #spca50x noone responded
[07:45] <virnik> I want to know, if somebody here knows why my breezy have problem with gspca module
[07:45] <virnik> FATAL: Error inserting gspca (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/gspca.ko): Invalid module format
[07:45] <virnik> doesn't matter if I use installer or compile it myself
[07:45] <virnik> I can't insert it
[07:46] <Stonez> I have some apget running in the background, how do i KILL it?
[07:47] <Stonez> I can't use apget until the other proces has been killed
[07:47] <fdoving> Stonez: you can use 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[07:47] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[07:47] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:47] <Stonez> ok, will try
[07:47] <fdoving> that's the fix.
[07:47] <Stonez> thanks :)
[07:47] <juano> how can i restart the networking daemon from konsole?
[07:48] <fdoving> juano: what network daemon is this?
[07:48] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  edit the fstab properly and learn the right way to put the smbfs entrys in there.
[07:48] <juano> fdoving: nevermind i found it sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:48] <juano> fdoving: thanks
[07:48] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  smb4k has a option i think to remount shares. when you run it
[07:48] <Minataku> virnik: It looks like the module is corrupt
[07:49] <Minataku> Or old
[07:49] <Minataku> Are you running the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel?
[07:50] <frojnd> how can I check how free spaces do I have in a specific folder
[07:50] <frojnd> for HD I use df -h
[07:50] <slyfox> Dr_willis: About fstab, can you please look here, that is my post with specific description: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337482&page=5
[07:50] <frojnd> but how can I check for specific folder
[07:50] <slyfox> Dr_willis: second last psot
[07:51] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  looks like it got answeredrd farther down.. unless you care to clarify what the problem is.
[07:51] <Minataku> frojnd: You mean on a particular filesystem mounted at a folder?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> and i got 4 min till  i gotta go to work
[07:51] <hyper_ch> anyone can tell me what that means?
[07:51] <Minataku> You can use df for that
[07:51] <hyper_ch> Err http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main libc6-dev 2.4-1ubuntu12.2
[07:51] <hyper_ch>   403 Forbidden [IP: 130.59.10.35 80] 
[07:51] <Minataku> Or if Kubuntu has it
[07:51] <Minataku> !di
[07:51] <ubotu> di: advanced df like disk information utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 100 kB
[07:51] <Minataku> Get that, di is much nicer
[07:51] <slyfox> Dr_willis: no it did not, a re you looking at the berore last post ?
[07:51] <Minataku> But otherwise, frojnd, type "df -h"
[07:52] <frojnd> yes for disks..
[07:52] <Minataku> Which will give you all the mounts and info on them
[07:52] <frojnd> I wanna check like right click on it and properties..
[07:52] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  mounting samba shares from fstab is documented all over the web/google. i would guess you are either doing somthing fundamentally wrong, or using an option that its not allowing.
[07:52] <Minataku> In an easy-to-read human format
[07:52] <Minataku> hyper_ch: It means that the remote server won't let you access the resource
[07:53] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  or is the 'core' of the problem the fact you are doing this wirelessly? and have a delay?
[07:53] <hyper_ch> Minataku: thx... but that's strange...
[07:53] <Minataku> hyper_ch: Kind of like 404, except 403 means it's there and you're not allowed to see it
[07:53] <Minataku> hyper_ch: It could be they're doing maintenance
[07:53] <slyfox> Dr_willis: But my problem is that fstab mounts samba shares before I connect to my wireless network. That is the problem. And it does not automatically tries to mount once I have connected to the network and want to jsut access my samba shares
[07:53] <Minataku> I'd wait a few and try again later
[07:53] <Minataku> If it persists contact them if possible
[07:53] <hyper_ch> Minataku: that's fun... it's the swiss mirror and a coupld of files like that showed up after an apt-get upgrade
[07:54] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  use the rc.local service and have it wait a few min. then run the needed mount commands. is one way.
[07:54] <hyper_ch> Minataku: I will do that :) thx
[07:54] <Minataku> hyper_ch: Hm... yeah, I'd bank on maintenance issues
[07:54] <Minataku> hyper_ch: You're welcome and thank you for choosing Linux
[07:54] <Minataku> :D
[07:54] <hyper_ch> Minataku: thx... haven't encountered that you
[07:54] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  i dont mess with wirless - there maybe some other ways to run a script after a wireless connection is made.
[07:54] <slyfox> Dr_willis: this is where my noobness kicks in.  " rc.local service and have it wait a few min." ?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  this is where you start to learn linux :)
[07:55] <Minataku> Or just write a shell script and run it after you've connected
[07:55] <Dr_willis> or make a cron job that runs mount -a, every few min.
[07:55] <Dr_willis> but that seems a bit screwy
[07:55] <sfpavel> when installing gimp it gets stuck on something about GLIB...where do i get the package?
[07:55] <Minataku> Extremely screwy
[07:55] <Minataku> sfpavel: What's the exact message?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> I thinki rember a way to run a script on wireless connection. but aint used it in ages
[07:56] <sfpavel> Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[07:56] <Dr_willis> or just make a script/icon that tries to mount the shares.
[07:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'd do that
[07:56] <sfpavel> The test program failed to to compile or link
[07:56] <Minataku> sfpavel: Hm... bizarre
[07:57] <Minataku> You're definitely missing something
[07:57] <sfpavel> Test for GLIB failed. See the INSTALL file
[07:57] <Minataku> Ah, go read that and see what it says
[07:57] <sfpavel> it says nothing about this there
[07:57] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byeeee.,
[07:57] <Minataku> Doh XD
[07:57] <Minataku> !glib
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Minataku> Bah
[07:57] <sfpavel> thnx
[07:58] <BluesKaj> !glib-test
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib-test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <Minataku> sfpavel: You're missing something, check if the configure script complained about something missing when you ran it
[07:58] <Minataku> More than likely you'll see a moan or two about "Checking for this-or-that... no"
[07:58] <sfpavel> this is what the configure script says when its running
[07:58] <Minataku> WAIT
[07:58] <Minataku> If this is long, pastebin it
[07:59] <sfpavel> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.8.0... no
[07:59] <sfpavel> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[07:59] <sfpavel> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[07:59] <sfpavel> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[07:59] <sfpavel> configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
[07:59] <Minataku> Whatever GLIB is, you don't have it
[08:00] <Minataku> And you need it
[08:00] <sfpavel> duh...
[08:00] <Minataku> lol
[08:00] <Minataku> Sorry XD
[08:00] <Minataku> Maybe it's the GNOME libs
[08:00] <sfpavel> ill just install everything in synaptic that has glib to its name
[08:00] <sfpavel> :D
[08:00] <Minataku> !gnome-libs
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <Minataku> Bah... bad bot, no cookie
[08:01] <slyfox_> Did Dr_Willis leave ?
[08:01] <Zerak> !gnome
[08:01] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:01] <Minataku> You don't want all of GNOME
[08:02] <Minataku> You just want the parts that GTK/GNOME apps require to rub
[08:02] <Minataku> s/rub/run/
[08:02] <verve> I LIKE TO RUB GNOMES
[08:02] <Minataku> lol
[08:02] <verve> heh
[08:04] <matsyes>  hi i have a question which is the top file in kde which calls all the other files
[08:04] <tsdgeos> ?
[08:05] <Minataku> matsyes: Do you mean what launches kde?
[08:06] <matsyes> as in i have a comp and i want to load the kde desktop but i need to specify the location of the window manager binary which ione should i choose
[08:06] <matsyes> yup what launches kde
[08:06] <Minataku> Uh... hm... I have no clue, sorry... hang around, I'm sure someone will come around who knows (or perhaps they're checking right now)
[08:07] <tsdgeos> probably startkde
[08:07] <matsyes> sure thanks Minataku
[08:07] <Lenaud01> to get the radeon drivers should just be fglrx in adept and then changing my xorg.conf to "radeon" right?
[08:07] <tsdgeos> well startkde is actually a script
[08:07] <tsdgeos> have a look at vi `which startkde `
[08:07] <matsyes> tsdgeos: yup that didnt work
[08:07] <Minataku> matsyes: np, I'd help but I don't use KDE nor do I really know the whole X11 startup procedure in the first place XD
[08:08] <Minataku> Best I've ever done without a configured display manager is "startx" which would always launch TWM
[08:08] <Minataku> Or X which would launch just X
[08:08] <Minataku> XD
[08:09] <BluesKaj> specify the location of the window manager binary.? why ?
[08:09] <fdoving> !ati | lenaud01
[08:09] <ubotu> lenaud01: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <BluesKaj> !window manager binary
[08:09] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Why doesn't matter, the answer matters :D
[08:09] <fdoving> matsyes: can you explain what you want to do?
[08:09] <Stonez> !paste
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:10] <Minataku> He wants to start KDE without a display manager
[08:10] <Minataku> I thought it was pretty obvious
[08:10] <Stonez> Could anyone tell me, why Azureus won't start? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2765/
[08:10] <BluesKaj> Minataku, agreed but perhaps their intentions are misguided :)
[08:10] <Stonez> ... and how I fx it..
[08:11] <Minataku> BluesKaj: True, but like I say... "How can I learn if I'm not allowed to hurt myself"
[08:11] <Stonez> I really hate kubuntu... :(
[08:11] <fdoving> matsyes: you'll have to hack /usr/bin/startkde, find and replace 'kwin' with whatever you want.
[08:11] <Minataku> Stonez: Known standing issue
[08:12] <BluesKaj> Stonez, patience ...
[08:12] <Stonez> yes, sorry.
[08:12] <Minataku> Might I suggest BitTornado in the meantime?
[08:12] <Stonez> tried it, messed it all up
[08:12] <cpk1> azureus works fine over here
[08:12] <Stonez> the installation get stucked before it's done
[08:12] <cpk1> Stonez: you using edgy?
[08:12] <matsyes> fdoving:thanks a lot its WORKING!!!!
[08:12] <BluesKaj> the opera bit torrent plugin/widget works ok
[08:12] <Stonez> cpk1: think so
[08:12] <Minataku> Ugh... Opera
[08:13] <Lenaud01> then why you in here Stonez lol
[08:13] <Stonez> erm..
[08:13] <Stonez> Kubuntu?
[08:13] <fdoving> matsyes: you're welcome. tsdgeos actually told you this first. but you didn't catch that.
[08:13] <Stonez> :)
[08:13] <cpk1> Stonez: you using the sun java?
[08:13] <Stonez> i use Kubuntu
[08:13] <Stonez> yes
[08:13] <Minataku> There's a known issue with Java "memmove" error
[08:14] <Stonez> If I install Kubuntu from the 4 CDs (this one's only one cd), there'll be a lot more programs preinstalled, right?
[08:14] <Stonez> azureus for instance
[08:14] <Stonez> ?
[08:14] <Minataku> Someone was in here last week complaining about it, if you Google you'll find the forum threads about it
[08:14] <tamacracka> Can anyone tell me how do I check the size of my hard drive and how much space is left?
[08:14] <matsyes> tsdgeos:hey dude u were right thanks a lot
[08:14] <cpk1> ok first thing i would try is get the azureus 2.5.0.0 jar from their sourceforge page and then replace your Azureus2.jar with that one
[08:14] <Stonez> yea well, i've been googling it all day, i'm giving up
[08:14] <cpk1> tamacracka: df -h
[08:14] <tamacracka> thank you
[08:14] <BluesKaj> Stonez, have you Dl'd the latest java offering ...azureus won't run without it
[08:14] <Stonez> but thanks anyways :)
[08:15] <matsyes> tsdgeos:its working beautifully now
[08:15] <tsdgeos> good
[08:15] <Stonez> yup, installed jre
[08:15] <Minataku> tamacracka: A nicer utility is di
[08:15] <Minataku> !di
[08:15] <BluesKaj> o
[08:15] <ubotu> di: advanced df like disk information utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.5.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 100 kB
[08:15] <BluesKaj> k
[08:15] <tamacracka> nice
[08:15] <tamacracka> ill download it right now
[08:15] <raeez> How do you install .deb files? something with dpkg i would guess, sorry im new to this
[08:15] <Minataku> Same thing, but it looks a whole lot nicer, much more presentable and easy on the eyes
[08:15] <Minataku> :3
[08:15] <cpk1> Stonez: i know in dapper the jar you get from the package doesnt work and you need to go get another one from the sourceforge page, didnt think you needed to with edgy but maybe i am wrong
[08:16] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg -i filename
[08:16] <raeez> thanks
[08:16] <cpk1> Stonez: before you give up try replacing Azureus2.jar with the one from the sourceforge page
[08:16] <Stonez> cpk1: ok. well. I'm gonna format and reinstall Ubuntu
[08:16] <Stonez> i think i have messed up big time
[08:16] <fdoving> raeez: you can also rightclick -> install, in the filemanager.
[08:17] <raeez> oh, thats alot easie
[08:17] <raeez> easier
[08:17] <BluesKaj> stone , cpk1 is right i had the same prob with azureus .
[08:17] <fdoving> it's the Kubuntu menu, or what it's called.
[08:17] <raeez> fdoving: do you mean in konkueror?
[08:18] <fdoving> raeez: yes, find hte .deb, right-click -> kubuntu package menu -> install
[08:18] <raeez> thanks fdoving
[08:18] <slyfox_>  Is there a way to make "Detailed List View" a default view in konqueror ?
[08:18] <cpk1> di is almost exactly the same as df...
[08:19] <fdoving> raeez: you should be aware of one thing, it doesn't install dependencies. you'll have to do that manually, or make sure everything it depends on is pre-installed. (that's the preferred way).
[08:19] <tamacracka> This is a stupid question
[08:19] <tamacracka> but where did Disk Information Utility go?
[08:19] <raeez> ok, its a programming library and as far as i know im covered with the dependencies... except maybe fmod
[08:19] <cpk1> whats that? =P
[08:20] <tamacracka> I just downloaded the DI
[08:20] <tamacracka> and uh... i can't find it.
[08:20] <fdoving> it's probably a command in console.
[08:20] <fdoving> 'di'
[08:20] <cpk1> tamacracka: open a console and type di
[08:20] <tamacracka> oh
[08:20] <bronze_0_1> Hi, I'm Trying to find an apt option that gets the description of a named package. can't find it in man . Does anyone have an idea how I could do that?
[08:20] <tamacracka> how can i associate it with an icon?
[08:21] <sfpavel> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.8.0...
[08:21] <tamacracka> actually hold on, i need to see how much disk space i have left lol
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.9, but GLIB (2.10.3)
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
[08:21] <cpk1> or di -h for a more readable output
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** required on your system.
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[08:21] <underdog5004> !pastebin | sfpavel
[08:21] <sfpavel> *** to point to the correct configuration files
[08:21] <sfpavel> no
[08:21] <sfpavel> configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
[08:21] <sfpavel> when installing configure gimp
[08:21] <ubotu> sfpavel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:21] <underdog5004> thanks, fdoving
[08:22] <sfpavel> sry :(
[08:22] <bronze_0_1> Checkov!  get yer elbow off the keyboard!
[08:22] <Minataku> bronze_0_1: rofl
[08:22] <fdoving> no problem, just try to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or similar in the future.
[08:22] <sfpavel> didnt now about it
[08:22] <bronze_0_1> You just photon torpedoed the ambassador's shuttlecraft!
[08:22] <sfpavel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2767/
[08:22] <slyfox_>  Is there a way to make "Detailed List View" a default view in konqueror ?
[08:23] <sfpavel> can anyone help me with that?
[08:24] <fdoving> slyfox_: save the view profile when you have that view enabled.
[08:25] <fdoving> slyfox_: it's all under the settings menu in konq.
[08:25] <fdoving> sfpavel: what is it you're trying to do?
[08:25] <slyfox_> fdoving: Thank you, it worked.
[08:25] <slyfox_> fdoving: Do you use Amarok ?
[08:25] <fdoving> sfpavel: did you install anything manually without using the package system?
[08:26] <fdoving> slyfox_: i use amarok sometimes, i don't know much about it though. got problems?
[08:26] <cpk1> do you ever need to use ldconfig with *buntu?
[08:26] <slyfox_> fdoving: Yeah, I get collection scan error
[08:26] <fdoving> cpk1: if you use packages for all installations, it's done automatically, so no.
[08:27] <fdoving> slyfox_: haven't experienced that yet, people in #amarok might know more about that.
[08:27] <sfpavel> im trying to install gimp
[08:27] <slyfox_> fdoving: ok, thank you
[08:27] <sfpavel> first it said i needed GLIB
[08:27] <sfpavel> i googled
[08:27] <sfpavel> and installed it manually
[08:28] <sfpavel> with configure, make
[08:28] <fdoving> that's not the way.
[08:28] <fdoving> you just break things like you've done.
[08:28] <sfpavel> :(
[08:28] <fdoving> so, do you still have the source directories around?
[08:28] <fdoving> (the directories you ran 'make install' from)
[08:28] <sfpavel> yes
[08:28] <Minataku> fdoving: I hope you're not insinuating that compiling from scratch is bad
[08:29] <fdoving> sfpavel: ok, cd to it, and run 'sudo make uninstall'
[08:29] <fdoving> Minataku: i'm telling, compiling from scratch is bad.
[08:29] <Minataku> fdoving: You're wrong, then
[08:29] <sfpavel> done
[08:30] <Minataku> Especially in situations where the current package is too outdated or doesn't even exist in the first place
[08:30] <fdoving> sfpavel: ok, good, now run 'sudo apt-get install gimp'
[08:30] <fdoving> Minataku: compiling things you already have installed, core pices of the system, without telling the package-system about it, is bad. compiling, as the process in it self, is not bad. that's done for every package.
[08:31] <Minataku> The GIMP nor even GLIB are core pieces of the system
[08:31] <fdoving> Minataku: also, in those situations when things are outdated, the package should be backported or updated.
[08:32] <Minataku> fdoving: It's this kind of handholding that Windows provides, the users should be allowed to expand and explore
[08:32] <Minataku> Or do I need to find another distribution to recommend for users wishing to do that?
[08:33] <fdoving> Minataku: sure, things will break, i suggest things that don't break the system. if users want to break their system, fine. if they want gimp, i suggest the best way to install gimp.
[08:33] <Minataku> fdoving: That's too bad, I thought *buntu was improving, I guess that I was wrong
[08:34] <fdoving> Minataku: no, but you should either use /opt or /usr/local for self-compiled things. and, you should not duplicate stuff you have already installed with the package system. atleast I personally belive that is a bad thing.
[08:34] <Lenaud01> when I run either glxinfo | grep vendor or grep "direct rendoring it says driver claims not to support that visual
[08:34] <Lenaud01> what display is that?
[08:34] <Minataku> Not duplicating, yes, the old instance should be uninstalled first
[08:34] <Minataku> After which maintenance of the component is entirely manual
[08:35] <sfpavel> done with the apt-get ..now how do i run it bcuz it has no shoritcut?
[08:35] <Minataku> However restricting self-compiled software to specific locations is not optimal
[08:36] <cpk1> hrmm well it does make it easier not to lose things =P
[08:36] <fdoving> Minataku: and then you get into those situations when you want to install something from the repositories, that depends on something you have installed manually... then you need equivs packages and you make it really complicated for your self. In those situations i recommend building packages for the software you want to make special changes to / special versions.. etc.
[08:36] <Minataku> Except in situations where multiple versions are explicitly supported or safely allowed, one instance should exist, either package manager or manual compile
[08:37] <ionny_> come ci vado su quello italiano
[08:37] <fdoving> that's exactly why i recommend using packages instead of self-compiled-non-package installations.
[08:37] <fdoving> !it | ionny_
[08:37] <ubotu> ionny_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:37] <ionny_> allora
[08:37] <Minataku> fdoving: In which case there should be a way to inform the package manager that such dependencies are already taken care of externally
[08:38] <fdoving> Minataku: there is. it's package name is 'equivs' it's basically empty packages that tells the system it provides the feature.
[08:38] <Minataku> Ah
[08:38] <Minataku> But even the suggestion that self-compiling is bad and should never be done is definitely a Bad Thing(tm)
[08:39] <fdoving> Minataku: ok, let's say 'self-package-building' is a much better thing.
[08:40] <Minataku> fdoving: Fair enough
[08:40] <cpk1> you could just use checkinstall
[08:40] <Minataku> I'll also accept it being merely discouraged
[08:40] <BluesKaj> this is off topic , but it's hilarious and dumb too ...could have been a serious consequences , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46LQd9dXFRU
[08:40] <Minataku> Rather than outright chastized as something that should never be done :3
[08:41] <sfpavel> i installed gimp using apt but i cant find how to run it
[08:41] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I'm tempted to say "You're right, it's offtopic" but I'm too lazy to look those youtube links.
[08:42] <Minataku> I remember back when I used SuSE (and still now in Gentoo, even) I would manually manage some things
[08:42] <fdoving> Minataku: i can rephrase myself 'compiling from source is bad' to 'I don't recommend manually compiling things, I recommend using packages for everything if possible.'
[08:42] <Minataku> fdoving: I couldn't have said it better myself
[08:42] <Minataku> :D
[08:42] <adaptr> I'm lovin' it !
[08:43] <cpk1> sfpavel: it should be in the kmenu
[08:43] <fdoving> cpk1: i don't recommend checkinstall either.. as it creates very very bad and ugly packages. it's a hard life :)
[08:43] <fdoving> though it's waaay better than running 'make install' and delete the source-dir. :)
[08:43] <Minataku> lol
[08:43] <Minataku> I never deleted the source directories
[08:44] <cpk1> i try to only put things i compile in /opt so i dont forget about them... I've ran into losing things before and thats no fun
[08:44] <Minataku> Unless they were old ones (and even then usually not)
[08:44] <sfpavel> its not in the kmenu
[08:44] <wilman> i have a great problem
[08:44] <wilman> my x wont start anymore
[08:44] <wilman> and i can't remember me doing anything strange
[08:44] <Minataku> wilman: Your harem is upset that you're not giving them enough loving?
[08:45] <wilman> no
[08:45] <Minataku> Oh... that's not a great problem... that's just a problem
[08:45] <wilman> o ok
[08:45] <Minataku> lol
[08:45] <wilman> can you help me then?
[08:45] <Minataku> Sorry, trying to ligthen things up
[08:45] <wilman> haha
[08:45] <Minataku> wilman: What does it say when X11 tries to start?
[08:45] <wilman> nothing
[08:45] <wilman> black screen
[08:45] <cpk1> wilman: startx has no output?
[08:45] <wilman> and i have to login at runlevel 1
[08:46] <Minataku> Hm
[08:46] <wilman> startx?
[08:46] <wilman> yes
[08:46] <wilman> it has output
[08:46] <Minataku> Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:46] <cpk1> so what does startx tell you?
[08:46] <Minataku> Whatever screwy dealings are going on will be in there
[08:47] <wilman> checking right now
[08:47] <cpk1> whoops, time for class!
[08:47] <wilman> how can i copy to here?
[08:47] <Minataku> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <wilman> what is the internet browser for runlevel?
[08:48] <Minataku> There should be some lines that stand out if you have to 10-finger-copy-paste
[08:48] <Minataku> Just give us those
[08:48] <wilman> ok
[08:48] <wilman> how do i copy in runlevel?
[08:48] <Minataku> Like they have (EE) in them or something
[08:48] <wilman> ok
[08:48] <Minataku> wilman: If there aren't a lot just 10-finger it
[08:49] <wilman> ok
[08:50] <sfpavel> what now??!?!? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2768/
[08:51] <HymnToLife> sfpavel, why do you want to run gimp as root ?
[08:51] <wilman> no EE
[08:51] <Minataku> wilman: Weird
[08:51] <wilman> backtrace :
[08:52] <wilman> fatal IO error
[08:52] <Minataku> Ah
[08:52] <Minataku> That would also be a good indicator
[08:52] <HymnToLife> sfpavel, and even if you *do* want to run GINP as root, this is not the way to go
[08:52] <wilman> 104 (connections made by peer) on X server "
[08:52] <HymnToLife> you should run gksudo gimp as yourself
[08:52] <wilman> after 0 requests
[08:53] <sfpavel> than how do i run gimp?
[08:53] <sfpavel> bcuz i cant find it in the Kmenu
[08:53] <wilman> with 0 events remaining
[08:53] <HymnToLife> sfpavel, you're logged in as root, how did you do that ?
[08:53] <Minataku> wilman: You didn't do anything strange, but did you do anything at all?
[08:53] <wilman> yes
[08:53] <sfpavel> su
[08:53] <Minataku> Anything important or routine
[08:53] <wilman> routine
[08:53] <wilman> dist-upgrade
[08:53] <HymnToLife> then exit to go back to your user account
[08:54] <Minataku> DING DING DING
[08:54] <Minataku> We have a weiner
[08:54] <HymnToLife> and then you can run gimp
[08:54] <wilman> ok :)
[08:54] <wilman> what to do?
[08:54] <Minataku> lol
[08:54] <sfpavel> thnx
[08:54] <sfpavel> its working
[08:54] <Minataku> I have absolutely no clue
[08:54] <Minataku> Hang around
[08:54] <wilman> oo ok
[08:54] <wilman> ok
[08:54] <Minataku> Someone else probably does
[08:54] <Minataku> lol
[08:54] <wilman> haha:P
[08:54] <Minataku> Sorry XD
[08:54] <wilman> well more time for me to play guitar
[08:55] <Minataku> Get good, get rich and you can have your own personal IT guy XD
[08:55] <wilman> haha;P
[08:55] <wilman> that would be verry uuu comprehensive
[08:56] <surgy> hello
[08:56] <wilman> hi
[08:56] <surgy> howsit?
[08:56] <wilman> how can i chanche channels in irssi
[08:57] <fdoving> wilman: alt+number, alt+left/right too.
[08:57] <fdoving> wilman: or /win 1, /win 2, etc.
[08:58] <slyfox_> Is using banshee a good idea in KDE ?
[08:58] <slyfox_> Amarok has problems
[08:58] <elyon225> What packages do I need to install to allow Firefox to stream embedded videos? (Such as wmv, mov, etc)
[08:58] <Minataku> Sory I couldn't assist, wilman >.<
[08:58] <JOSF> How do I remove a package, that fails in pre-remove ?
[08:58] <HymnToLife> !multimedia | elyon225
[08:58] <ubotu> elyon225: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:58] <wilman> does'nt matter
[08:58] <wilman> ill just have to learn to work with this
[08:58] <Minataku> elyon225: I use VLC for that task + a certain extension
[08:58] <fdoving> JOSF: depends on what is done during pre-remove.
[08:59] <Minataku> Lemme check what the name is, I don't remember it offhand
[08:59] <elyon225> Isn't gstreamer a gnome app?
[08:59] <fdoving> JOSF: have a look at the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.prerm
[08:59] <wilman> is there an msn thingy for runlevel?
[08:59] <Minataku> Ah
[08:59] <slyfox_> elyon225: Get Media Connectivity extension for firefox
[08:59] <Minataku> "MediaPlayerConnectivity"
[08:59] <JOSF> fdoving: It is some python-freevo package that is badly configured. It fails at python-update-modules (wrong commandline or so)
[08:59] <Minataku> Then just link it to the streaming-media-supporting app of your choice
[08:59] <JOSF> fdoving: ok
[09:00] <Minataku> Like I said, I like VLC
[09:00] <Minataku> Because it's not a lousy GNOME app
[09:00] <elyon225> Minataku, slyfox_:  MPC is to launch them externally.  I'd like them to play as designed within the browser.
[09:00] <elyon225> Minataku: Is that a plugin?  Or external app, though?
[09:01] <virnik> what do you think about this notebook? http://www.alza.cz/notebook-acer-aspire-5101anwlmi-d69207.htm
[09:01] <virnik> I want to run Kubuntu on it
[09:01] <surgy> its funny how konversation tells me im spelling kubuntu wrong even when i spell it right :)
[09:01] <Minataku> virnik: I recommend only Toshiba laptops
[09:01] <virnik> so I am going to boy it
[09:01] <virnik> Minataku: why?
[09:02] <Minataku> virnik: Many great experiences
[09:02] <Minataku> They're the best damn laptops made, IMO
[09:02] <virnik> Minataku: ok, but I have enbough money just for this one, not toshiba
[09:02] <Minataku> virnik: I'd save up a bit more
[09:02] <Minataku> You get what you pay for, after all
[09:02] <virnik> Minataku: I know
[09:03] <Minataku> Believe me, we learned that when we thought a $400 eMachines would be a good idea for my little brother
[09:03] <virnik> just don't look on price, its in czech crowns. look on specs
[09:03] <fdoving> I like apple.
[09:03] <Minataku> Needless to say it's a $400 paperweight now
[09:03] <virnik> what do you think? its strong enough even for Windaz Vista (taht fucked idioticism from mrkvosoft)
[09:03] <Minataku> fdoving: So you like Treacherous Computing and elimination of digital freedoms too?
[09:03] <elyon225> Hey, isn't libdvdcss supposed to be in the Universe rep?
[09:04] <fdoving> Minataku: i like the hardware. I don't use the software.
[09:04] <Minataku> Because if you want a platform that's 100% TC-based, Apple's the choice
[09:04] <Minataku> fdoving: I'm talking about the hardware
[09:04] <virnik> lol
[09:04] <virnik> calm down boys :-)
[09:04] <Minataku> TPM chip. Standard in every Intel Macintosh.
[09:04] <virnik> i didnt came here to start HW flame
[09:04] <fdoving> then i guess i do. i use the powerpc macs.
[09:04] <HymnToLife> elyon225, no, it's not
[09:04] <HymnToLife> !libdvdcss | elyon225
[09:04] <ubotu> elyon225: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:06] <benjamin> i'am french and you?
[09:06] <benjamin> i'm*
[09:06] <BluesKaj> !fr
[09:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <Tamacracka> Hey guys, how come when I right click and close Amarok from the system tray... it reopens again?
[09:07] <surgy> tamacracka: you need to look round in your amarok settings its in there somewhere i think
[09:07] <benjamin> do you speek in french?
[09:07] <fdoving> !fr | benjamin
[09:07] <ubotu> benjamin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:07] <Tamacracka> lol i didn't know there's a setting so that when it's closed by the user it automatically reopens again
[09:07] <elyon225> Okay, HymnToLife... I've added those reps to Adept, but it still doesn't see libdvdcss.
[09:08] <benjamin> !fr
[09:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:08] <benjamin> thank you
[09:08] <HymnToLife> elyon225, can't tell you how to use it, sorry, I always build my libdvdcss from source
[09:08] <wilman> should i go back to windows?
[09:08] <HymnToLife> but did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[09:09] <wilman> it is so much easier
[09:09] <zerozero> what package do I need to install to play wmv files?
[09:09] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs | zerozero
[09:09] <wilman> everybody asking for packages and stuff
[09:09] <ubotu> zerozero: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[09:09] <HymnToLife> wilman, please quit trolling
[09:09] <wilman> in windows you never have such things
[09:09] <wilman> ok
[09:10] <wilman> can anyone help me getting my X back to work
[09:10] <zerozero> wilman maybe you should
[09:10] <wilman> i only did an upgrade
[09:10] <Zerak> no but you also get a lot of junk on your computer
[09:10] <wilman> well sorry guys for being so mean
[09:11] <elyon225> hmm... Installing just the VLC plugin installed 26 packages include libdvd :)
[09:11] <surgy> wilman: whats wrong?
[09:11] <wilman> i can't start my x
[09:12] <surgy> your xorg.conf messed up?
[09:12] <wilman> i don't know
[09:12] <wilman> i did'nt do anything special
[09:12] <wilman> but i got some further
[09:12] <wilman> my vid driver is working again
[09:12] <juano__> wilman: what video card you got?
[09:12] <wilman> i deleted beryl completely
[09:12] <surgy> (im a noob too) what were you trying to do when it messed up?
[09:12] <wilman> nvidia 4200
[09:12] <wilman> i was only doing an upgrade
[09:12] <surgy> wilman i have the same card
[09:13] <juano__> wilman: your X is completely out?
[09:13] <Tamacracka> It's not in the Amarok settings...
[09:13] <wilman> yes
[09:13] <Tamacracka> Amarok doesn't have a setting to reopen as soon as you close it.
[09:13] <elyon225> Minataku: Okay, so I installed VLC and the plugin, now every embedded video just says "(no video)"
[09:13] <BluesKaj> ahhh ,ok wilman when you got rid of beryl you have to reconfig X : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <wilman> when i do start x
[09:13] <Tamacracka> i believe this is an error.
[09:13] <wilman> it gives an error
[09:13] <surgy> wilman: is your driver setup correctly?
[09:14] <wilman> i don't exactly know
[09:14] <juano__> wilman: try checking inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the video section for Driver  "nv" , try changing that to "nvidia"
[09:14] <Zerak> say the error
[09:14] <wilman> ok
[09:14] <wilman> thx
[09:14] <juano__> wilman: usually helps
[09:14] <juano__> wilman: if it doesnt just leave it as it was
[09:14] <Zerak> make sure X isnt uninstalled, it did that to me once
[09:14] <juano__> wilman: if that doesnt work , try this command:
[09:14] <extern> is there a way to make vlc fullscreen work properly? it now creates a maximized window, with X server icon, but has kde border and the bottom bar is still visible
[09:15] <juano__> wilman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver
[09:15] <wilman> ok
[09:15] <wilman> driver is already nvidia
[09:15] <wilman> don't know how that got there
[09:15] <wilman> perhaps
[09:15] <juano__> wilman: you can try this command
[09:15] <wilman> load glx
[09:15] <wilman> is that good?
[09:15] <wilman> ok
[09:15] <juano__> wilman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <surgy> wilman or if your corg is messed up and you followed the driver how to do "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[09:16] <surgy> xorg*
[09:16] <wilman> ?
[09:16] <elyon225> Great... VLC was a fricken perfect idea... now NO videos work in Firefox.
[09:17] <surgy> wilman: thats how you restore your xorg.conf backup created while installing glx
[09:17] <wilman> "server" is not installed it says
[09:17] <fdoving> surgy: won't that overwrite the backup with the broken xorg.conf ?
[09:17] <wilman> ok
[09:17] <surgy> are we even aloud to talk about vlc here? doesnt that cross the piracy of dvds?
[09:17] <fdoving> wilman: replace it with 'xserver-xorg'
[09:17] <wilman> ok
[09:17] <surgy> fdovig: yeah dont listen to me
[09:18] <surgy> i had it backwords
[09:18] <juano__> wilman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , does this work?
[09:18] <fdoving> !xconfig
[09:18] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[09:18] <surgy> its sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:18] <wilman> it ceartenly does something
[09:18] <wilman> first i check if this works
[09:19] <juano__> wilman: yes, try rebooting into x now, after that
[09:19] <celal> hi can anybody tell me the adress for the german irc channel plz
[09:19] <fdoving> !de | celal
[09:19] <celal> kubuntu i mean
[09:19] <ubotu> celal: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:20] <elyon225> What packages do I need to install to get streaming video working in Firefox?  I do not want the videos to simply launch externally.  And VLC just made it so NO videos work.  Any ideas?
[09:20] <celal> #kubuntu-de
[09:20] <wilman> ok
[09:20] <wilman> juano__: ok
[09:20] <Sebien> Hello
[09:20] <celal> hi  @ all
[09:22] <Sebien> I'm currently using KUbuntu Dapper, and wanted to dist-upgrade to Edgy. But it seams there is a big conflict with libc6. If I do "aptitude dist-upgrade" I get: "The following packages will be BROKEN: hpijs libgnutls-dev python2.4-libxslt1 upstart"
[09:23] <Minataku> elyon225: Sorry, I don't know in what stupid way Kubuntu installs VLC/dependencies, perhaps you're missing codecs?
[09:24] <fdoving> !upgrade | sebien
[09:24] <ubotu> sebien: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:24] <Minataku> As for having them INSIDE Firefox, I don't know
[09:25] <Minataku> Personally I'd rather have them outside anyway, it's nicer... but that's just my preference
[09:27] <Sebien> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade do not solve the problem. One week ago I've seen an automatic update of libc6. Perhapse this is what cause the problem. How can I cancel that upgrade?
[09:27] <wilman> ok
[09:27] <wilman> gonna restart now
[09:27] <fdoving> Sebien: you can force downgrade of libc6, 'apt-cache madison libc6' will list available versions. 'sudo apt-get install libc6=version' will install the selected version.
[09:28] <vail2> ho kubuntu, come faccio a sbollcare la konsole che si blocca al comando sudo apt-get update
[09:28] <Sebien> fdoving: But I should modify back my source.list to dapper instead of edgy? Will that work?
[09:29] <fdoving> Sebien: yes, you can do that, but i'm not sure that is smart. can you paste the error messages you get when you run 'sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade' to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[09:29] <TheHermit> Hey i want to install mplayer but i cant find it and i had the universe ant multivers sources so any idea
[09:30] <wilman> Iam on my X again
[09:30] <wilman> thx guys
[09:30] <fdoving> TheHermit: it's in the multiverse repository. did you update the packages list?
[09:31] <wilman> fdoving: thx
[09:31] <fdoving> glad it worked for you wilman :)
[09:31] <TheHermit> fdoving ,yes
[09:31] <HymnToLife> !mplayer
[09:31] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[09:31] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:31] <wilman> yes ;)
[09:31] <Lenaud01> it says got to System -> Preference for sessions to make beryl auto load I dont have preference under system?
[09:32] <dope> i've never programmed in linux before but does it have the standard template library?
[09:32] <hyper_ch> is udevstart renamed in Edgy?
[09:32] <sfpavel> !vlc
[09:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:32] <Sebien> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/4tqi9N73.html
[09:33] <aseigo> Riddell: ping
[09:33] <hyper_ch> anyone knows how to configure kpilot so that also the images from the palm contact will be synced?
[09:34] <Lenaud01> it says got to System -> Preference for sessions to make beryl auto load I dont have preference under system?
[09:35] <fdoving> Sebien: i think you will be able to follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[09:35] <TheHermit> Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[09:35] <TheHermit> fdoving ,so
[09:35] <fdoving> TheHermit: in konsole, try 'apt-cache search mplayer' - does it say anything usefull?
[09:36] <Sebien> fdoving: why with "-u" there is no conflict anymore ?
[09:37] <Lenaud01> can anyone answer my question?
[09:37] <TheHermit> fdoving ,its telling u have Kmplayer And Nothing about mplayer
[09:38] <TheHermit> Me*
[09:38] <fdoving> Sebien: -u does nothing except tell you which packages will be updated.
[09:39] <Lenaud01> ??? am I being ignored?
[09:39] <fdoving> TheHermit: what does 'grep -i multi /etc/apt/sources.list' output?
[09:39] <TheHermit> eb http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe                                                               multiverse
[09:39] <TheHermit> deb-src http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted univ                                                              erse multiverse
[09:39] <fdoving> Lenaud01: it's telling you the Gnome way of doing that. you probably want..
[09:40] <TheHermit> Sorry
[09:40] <fdoving> !autostart | lenaud01
[09:40] <ubotu> lenaud01: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:40] <Lenaud01> thanks guys
[09:41] <fdoving> TheHermit: no problem, i see your problem, you have enabled multiverse for edgy-backports only. You want similar lines, with 'deb http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse'
[09:41] <fdoving> TheHermit: see the difference.. 'edgy-backports' vs. 'edgy'
[09:42] <TheHermit> yes
[09:42] <fdoving> TheHermit: if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list you will find 'deb http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted..' and so on, append 'multiverse' to those lines. and update.
[09:42] <sfpavel> where can i see what packages are on the kubuntu 6.6.10 DVD?
[09:42] <TheHermit> fdoving, ok
[09:42] <spyman> HI
[09:43] <spyman> Who Can help me?
[09:43] <spyman> What "Su error"
[09:43] <spyman> ?
[09:43] <sfpavel> spyman: you are not logged in as rood
[09:43] <sfpavel> root
[09:43] <Sebien> fdoving: Ok, apt-get dist-upgrade does not tell there are conflicts..... But here is what aptitude dist-upgrade gives: (upstart is broken, an important package) http://rafb.net/p/Y5zYGm95.html
[09:46] <fdoving> Sebien: where in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade did it say 'aptitude dist-upgrade' ? :)
[09:47] <Sebien> fdoving: no, but a friend prefers to use aptitude. Right, so I tryed with both and one of them give me errors. So this brings the idea "perhapse the other has not detected the error but there will be a big one". I do not trust that situation.
[09:47] <Sebien> fdoving: but if you say that error is normal and I just have to follow the upgrade guide, then I will.
[09:48] <fdoving> Sebien: i made https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade it worked for me, tested 10+ times.
[09:49] <fdoving> Sebien: + a bunch of success stories from other users. If you have 3rdparty programs installed, or ever used automatix, things can break.
[09:49] <Sebien> fdoving: ok, thanks very much, I will do. That's because I waited a lot of times to upgrade, and with dapper-backport and other sources perhapse at this moment it doesn't work anymore :)
[09:49] <matze> !ntfs-3g
[09:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:49] <Sebien> fdoving: So I start apt-get dist-upgrade :) Go.
[09:50] <fdoving> Sebien: i'll be around for another hour or so, if things break please tell me. if i don't react at once, just paste the error to a site, and say my nick and give me the url, and i'll have a look once i get back. have a few non computer things to do.
[09:51] <Sebien> fdoving: thanks very much.
[09:55] <spyman> sfpavel, How I log in as root?
[09:56] <sfpavel> spyman: type su in konsole/terminal
[09:56] <sfpavel> spyman: type ur root password
[09:56] <HymnToLife> there is no root password in Ubuntu  (by default)
[09:57] <HymnToLife> spyman, open a Konsole and type        sudo -i
[09:57] <sfpavel> u have to set it using sudo psswd
[09:57] <sfpavel> or that
[09:57] <sfpavel> passwd
[09:57] <tamcaracka> Can someone throw me a link on how to properly format an NTFS HDD and make it my 2 secondary hard drive? As of now it's HDA 1 (it's the primary master hard drive) and I'd like for it to stay that way, or will I have to mess with the jumpers as well on the Hard Drives?
[09:58] <TheHermit> fdoving, plz see it
[09:58] <HymnToLife> tamcaracka, you want to format is to ext3 ?
[09:58] <tamcaracka> yes please
[09:58] <HymnToLife> it
[09:58] <tamcaracka> im done with windows :P
[09:58] <captian_eddie> good to hear.
[09:58] <tamcaracka> i no longer need it :)
[09:58] <HymnToLife> tamcaracka, mk2fs is a simple command line tool to do it
[09:58] <captian_eddie> yippie
[09:59] <HymnToLife> if you want a nice GUI, GParted is the way to go
[09:59] <captian_eddie> qtparted ... maybe
[09:59] <tamcaracka> is there such thing as a graphical, or is mk2fs just as easy? I'm a beginer on this
[09:59] <tamcaracka> i want to make my primary master hard drive fully just a storage drive
[09:59] <tamcaracka> but i dont know if it'll mess with my GRUB
[09:59] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, can ypu plz see my source list and tell me if is there was something wrong
[09:59] <captian_eddie> It does.
[09:59] <TheHermit> you*
[10:00] <HymnToLife> tamcaracka, as I told you, GParted is a nice graphical tool to do it
[10:00] <tamcaracka> gparted? ok :P
[10:00] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, sure, just pastebin it
[10:00] <TheHermit> ok
[10:00] <captian_eddie> Do you have to be voiced to chat in this room?
[10:00] <TheHermit> !pastebin
[10:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:00] <HymnToLife> captian_eddie, no
[10:00] <HymnToLife> there are no voices in this room anyway
[10:00] <faked_> yo, I downloaded a game, and it's all ready to go.. but I dunno how to open it >_> like I click it to open and it...doesn't.
[10:01] <HymnToLife> faked_, which game ?
[10:01] <faked_> The Way of N
[10:01] <captian_eddie> faked_: you could run it from konsole to see what errors are coming out.
[10:01] <faked_> i dunno how >_>
[10:01] <captian_eddie> $ game_name <enter>
[10:02] <faked_> bash: n_v14: command not found
[10:02] <captian_eddie> you could right click the icon from the menu select properties, and then see what command is used to run it.
[10:03] <captian_eddie> er ... edit item.
[10:03] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2777/
[10:03] <HymnToLife> faked_, your game is probablyt not in your PATH, cd to the dir where the executable is and do ./n_v14
[10:03] <faked_> it just saiys it's an  executable file
[10:03] <faked_> I'm in that dir
[10:03] <faked_> faked@FakedSympathy:~/Desktop/n_v1linux$ ./n_v14
[10:03] <faked_> ./n_v14: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:03] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, nothing wrong here, what is your problem ?
[10:04] <HymnToLife> !libstdc++6
[10:04] <ubotu> libstdc++6: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is important. Version 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 282 kB, installed size 900 kB
[10:04] <faked_> so... what do I do?
[10:05] <HymnToLife> faked_, it need a version of libc6 which is not the one that comes with Ubuntu
[10:05] <TheHermit> HymnToLife,When i try to update its telling that there is one wrong or old links or something like that befor puttint # to the edgy mutlii verse
[10:05] <faked_> okay I'll install that
[10:05] <faked_> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[10:05] <faked_> that's what it says
[10:06] <italbir> qulche italiano?
[10:06] <HymnToLife> !it | italbir
[10:06] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, plz wait a seconed and i check if i can install mplayer
[10:06] <ubotu> italbir: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:06] <italbir> ok!
[10:06] <captian_eddie> Does anyone here know how to get kubuntu to behave more like mandriva when typing su in particular, pass the DISPLAY and what not and I'm not saying su -p I'm saying su.
[10:07] <HymnToLife> faked_, sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[10:08] <italbir> ciao qualcuno pu aiutarmi su come aggiornare i driver su Kubuntu 6.10?
[10:08] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, i still cant install mplayer
[10:08] <faked_> that got it to run, thanks hymn
[10:09] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, if your too busy not now
[10:09] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, what happens when you try to install mplayer ?
[10:09] <TheHermit> HymnToLife,  Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[10:10] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, which Ubuntu are you running ?
[10:10] <HymnToLife> (Dapper or Edgy ?)
[10:10] <TheHermit> edgy
[10:10] <TheHermit> 6.10
[10:10] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, could you pastebin your current sources.list ?
[10:11] <TheHermit> okay
[10:11] <Xera|> damn it
[10:12] <HymnToLife> !language | Xera|
[10:12] <ubotu> Xera|: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:12] <Xera|> i burnt all my data to dvd-rw with k3b, and windows can't read it
[10:12] <Xera|> HymnToLife: sorry, lol
[10:12] <Xera|> someone said about reading the dvd in "raw" mode, but i found no info on that anywhere ;/
[10:13] <HymnToLife> I don't think Windows can read RAW discs
[10:13] <tamacracka> Hey guys?
[10:13] <faked_> yo flash is lagging like CRAZY is there anything you can suggest to improve the performance?
[10:13] <tamacracka> i just tried to move a file from my ntfs hard drive onto my ext3 hard drive
[10:13] <MidMark> Xera|: this happens because it doesn't close session weel imho, add another session and windows will see them
[10:13] <matze> !ntfs-3g
[10:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:13] <matze> !nvidia
[10:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:14] <tamacracka> and it froze, then i tried to open my ntfs hard drive and i get this: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:14] <Xera|> MidMark: huh?
[10:14] <hyper_ch> hiho, can anyone help me with udevinfo to find some stuff about my palm?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> tamacracka, seems like you didn't install your ntfs-3g correctly
[10:14] <HymnToLife> see the links ubotu gave
[10:14] <MidMark> Xera|: cannot see cd/dvd multisession burned with k3b? Add another session or close them
[10:14] <hyper_ch> udevinfo -q path -n /dev/ttyUSB0 --> I just get no info in the db
[10:14] <tamacracka> but... i did, now it's claiming i dont have it.
[10:15] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, its telling i am spamming i will send you the list okay
[10:15] <Xera|> MidMark: "add another session", explain ;p
[10:15] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, no :p
[10:15] <HymnToLife> use another pastebin
[10:15] <TheHermit> ok
[10:15] <HymnToLife> http://pastebin.com for example
[10:16] <MidMark> Xera|: do you know how a cd/dvd burning works?
[10:16] <Xera|> nop, no idea
[10:16] <TheHermit> ok
[10:16] <MidMark> Xera|: then search with google, better to know how it works
[10:16] <Xera|> ok
[10:16] <Xera|> wth should i search for? =P
[10:17] <ccherrett> I am trying to install psftools and it says it needs ImageMagick++. I have ImageMagick installed. what does it want?
[10:17] <faked_> yo flash is lagging like CRAZY is there anything you can suggest to improve the performance?
[10:17] <MidMark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisession
[10:17] <Xera|> ty
[10:18] <angasule> ccherrett: hmm, it probably wants the C++ bindings of imagemagick?
[10:18] <tamacracka> can someone please help me re-mount my NTFS hard drive? My machine froze when I was transfering files from the NTFS to my EXT3 and now I get this error: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:19] <angasule> ccherrett: there is a packet called libgraphicsmagick++1
[10:19] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, http://pastebin.com/866525
[10:20] <tamacracka> can someone please help me re-mount my NTFS hard drive? My machine froze when I was transfering files from the NTFS to my EXT3 and now I get this error: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:20] <tamacracka> #ubuntu
[10:21] <shadowhywind> hi al, I am fed up with this, and hoping someone can help me. The last month or so when ever i boot into kubuntu my ip # are allways off. i have them static but when i boot they come up as a 169.254 number..
[10:21] <HymnToLife> TheHermit, uncomment lines 34-35 and add multiverse to lines 17-18
[10:21] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, okay
[10:22] <tamacracka> can someone please help me re-mount my NTFS hard drive? My machine froze when I was transfering files from the NTFS to my EXT3 and now I get this error: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:23] <Sebien> fdoving: The dist-upgrade process has finished to download. But now there is a X Windows asking me "Debconf on localhost. Value of property not valide. Enter a number between -20 and 19". I click Next and nothing happens
[10:23] <Sebien> fdoving: I click Help and nothing happens
[10:23] <Sebien> There is only Cancel left
[10:24] <fdoving> Sebien: ok, hit cancel then, does it say which package this is?
[10:24] <Sebien> fdoving: in the console, each time I click a button there is that line:"Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN57> line 9."
[10:25] <Sebien> fdoving: "Pre-configuring packages..."
[10:25] <Sebien> fdoving: after cancel: "/bin/sh: line 1:  8069 Segmentation error  /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt"
[10:26] <Sebien> It removes packages...
[10:28] <Sebien> fdoving:  Unpacking replacement sysv-rc ...
[10:28] <Sebien> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:28] <Sebien>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-10-386_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[10:28] <Sebien> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:28] <Sebien> And then it's over.
[10:28] <fdoving> Sebien: ok. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' - select interface 'Dialog'
[10:28] <spyman> Hi, how can I open "My computer" on Kubuntu 6.10???
[10:28] <fdoving> spyman: there is no such thing.
[10:28] <fdoving> !windows | spyman
[10:28] <ubotu> spyman: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:29] <fdoving> spyman: what exactly is it you're looking for?
[10:29] <fdoving> ( http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm is a good read )
[10:29] <Minataku> I believe he means the file manager
[10:29] <TheHermit> HymnToLife, okay thanks
[10:29] <Sebien> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/nnzh2F70.html
[10:30] <Minataku> Come on, think a little before you give him a bogus reply
[10:30] <spyman> im looking for  how can I see my files, like "explorer or my computer of the Windows"
[10:30] <fdoving> Sebien: ok. 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf'
[10:31] <spyman> sorry my English is BAD, Im Brazilian...
[10:31] <Minataku> spyman: No, no, I think it's just a case of questionitis
[10:31] <Minataku> I believe Konqueror is the Windows Explorer equivalent
[10:31] <Sebien> fdoving: it's the same
[10:31] <Sebien> error
[10:31] <Minataku> You should be able to do all sorts of this-n-that via Konqueror
[10:32] <spyman> Oh yes...
[10:32] <fdoving> spyman: the computer icon next to the kmenu in the lower left corner -> click it, and select Home Folder, or what it's labeld.
[10:32] <spyman> Konqueror is equivalent IE and Exporer... =)
[10:32] <Minataku> fdoving: Now was it so hard to simply figure that that was what he meant rather than giving him a "YUO N00B" reply?
[10:33] <spyman> Thx... Im a noob linux user.. hehehehe
[10:33] <Minataku> spyman: No problem and thanks for choosing Linux
[10:33] <Xera|> MidMark: i still don't understand what you were talking about ;/
[10:33] <fdoving> Minataku: yes.
[10:33] <spyman> =] 
[10:33] <Sebien> fdoving: private chat?
[10:34] <Minataku> spyman: BTW, your English is far above passable, near excellent
[10:34] <spyman> How Can I create a shortcut to AMSN? I installed using - sudo apt-get install amsn...
[10:34] <Minataku> In the future, if you'd rather get help in your native language...
[10:34] <Minataku> !br | spyman
[10:34] <ubotu> spyman: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:35] <Minataku> spyman: I believe it's placed in the K Menu
[10:35] <pedro> hi..
[10:35] <Minataku> Which is the equivalent of the Start Menu
[10:35] <Minataku> VOTE FOR PEDRO
[10:35] <Minataku> Sorry, couldn't resist
[10:35] <pedro> does anybody knows why when a try
[10:35] <pedro> what?
[10:35] <pedro> vote what for?
[10:35] <Minataku> pedro: Just a joke from a movie, nevermind, sorry
[10:36] <pedro> ok
[10:36] <pedro> well guy
[10:36] <spyman> ubotu, I like English,,, I learn 2 things... Linux and English.. hehehe
[10:36] <pedro> i'm on kubuntu
[10:36] <pedro> why the hell when i try to share a fckng folder in graphics mode
[10:36] <Minataku> Language, pedro
[10:36] <pedro> right clicking and then in share tab..
[10:36] <pedro> all that is disable??
[10:37] <fdoving> to enable sharing you need to install samba or a nfs server.
[10:37] <pedro> i click on Administrator mode, I enter password
[10:37] <pedro> yeap its activate
[10:37] <pedro> d
[10:37] <Minataku> fdoving: Sorry for lashing out at you like that but *buntu is supposed to be free of all the negative elitism and snide remarks that other distros' channels usually have
[10:37] <DarkWizdom> how can I point to kubunto to look for videodrivers in /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib ?
[10:37] <pedro> even i modifie smb.conf
[10:38] <Minataku> You gotta figure "He's asking for this, perhaps he means this?"
[10:38] <spyman> Minataku, Have problems if I choose ask for help here? I dont like use ubuntu-br..
[10:38] <Minataku> spyman: Not at all, you're welcome in any of the channels
[10:38] <Minataku> Provided you speak the proper language for the channel
[10:38] <pedro> ok
[10:38] <Minataku> It'd be kinda pointless to go into the Japanese channel and speak German, for instance ;3
[10:38] <fdoving> Minataku: it's not a negative comment. I simply stated a similar thing to My Computer does not exist. In windows my computer does everything, things in linux does not work that way. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm explains this.
[10:39] <Minataku> fdoving: "My Computer" is nothing more than an alternate interface to file management
[10:39] <Minataku> The nearest equivalent, as I correctly pointed out, was Konqueror
[10:40] <fdoving> the nearest must be about:konqueror then.
[10:40] <Minataku> Which is similar in function really to ALL of Explorer where file management/etc is concerned
[10:40] <Minataku> Especially when you consider Konq is also the KDE web browser
[10:40] <spyman> Somebody knows why appears "Su error" when I try open the ADD/Remove program??
[10:41] <Minataku> spyman: You should get a dialog box that asks you to enter a password, you have to put in your password there to gain permission to do maintenance tasks
[10:42] <tamacracka> Ok... I need someone to fully understand what I'm about to do and need to know if this will still work. Is anyone available?
[10:43] <underdog5004> I'm here
[10:43] <tamacracka> underdog, as of now, I have windows xp (ntfs) on my primary master hard drive, which is hda1
[10:43] <underdog5004> damn, brb
[10:44] <spyman> I have the passwrod, I put on dialog box ant appears the error...
[10:45] <Minataku> spyman: Are you sure you're typing it correctly? It's case-sensitive
[10:46] <Xera|> meh i cba to fiddle with this, i'll reinstall grub, boot to linux and copy the files over to windows there ;p
[10:46] <spyman> its only numbers...
[10:47] <spyman> and now, not appears the dialog box aking the password..
[10:47] <Minataku> Good, strong passwords have both letters and numbers in them
[10:47] <Minataku> As for why it's not working, I'm afraid I don't know, sorry
[10:47] <spyman> I
[10:48] <spyman> =(
[10:48] <underdog5004> yay, I'm back
[10:48] <underdog5004> tamacracka, so, ok, what're you doing?
[10:48] <tamacracka> underdog, as of now, I have windows xp (ntfs) on my primary master hard drive, which is hda1. My primary slave hard drive is Linux (ext3). I want to format my Windows XP (ntfs) hda1 drive and make it just a storage drive. Because my NTFS hard drive is my Primary Master drive, and my EXT3 hard drive is my Primary Slave drive, if I reformat my NTFS, will I lose my GRUB? And if I do, will I need to install GRUB again? Or not, since
[10:48] <tamacracka> I want to only use Linux and now windows xp.
[10:49] <spyman> Could be necessary restart the S.O.? Its necessary restart the linux some times like linux:
[10:49] <Minataku> The MBR shouldn't be touched by standard formatting (that is, mere partition reassignment)
[10:49] <Minataku> MEaning that GRUB shouldn't require a reinstall
[10:49] <underdog5004> tamacracka, ok. Why don't you make your linux drive the master, then boot from the liveCD and run 'grub-install'  <==not sure about command. That should do it, then you can just cfdisk your slave
[10:50] <Minataku> However if it does, it's easy enough to replace
[10:50] <Minataku> underdog5004: Not necessary
[10:50] <underdog5004> ok
[10:50] <tamacracka> So if i format my HDA1
[10:50] <Minataku> Just reassign the partition on the primary/master
[10:50] <tamacracka> I need to make that my primary slave by jumper?
[10:50] <underdog5004> my bad, Minataku
[10:50] <Minataku> tamacracka: Negative
[10:50] <Minataku> This will require no opening the PC
[10:50] <tamacracka> woohoo
[10:50] <Minataku> fdisk the hda1
[10:50] <Minataku> Delete the NTFS partition
[10:50] <tamacracka> right now?
[10:51] <tamacracka> ok
[10:51] <tamacracka> gonna use gparted
[10:51] <Minataku> Whenever you're ready to
[10:51] <Minataku> That works too
[10:51] <Minataku> Then recreate the partiton as a Linux partition
[10:51] <Minataku> You should be all good to go from there once it's set and you make the filesystem on it
[10:51] <Minataku> GRUB should remain completely untouched
[10:51] <tamacracka> ok
[10:51] <tamacracka> on Gparted
[10:52] <tamacracka> i right click my ntfs partition
[10:52] <tamacracka> or my hard drive i should say
[10:52] <tamacracka> and it only gives me, flag, unmount, and information option
[10:52] <Minataku> If by some chance it does get cracked up in the process, simply use the LiveCD to reinstall it
[10:52] <Minataku> Unmount it
[10:52] <Minataku> If it's mounted you can't work with it
[10:52] <BluesKaj> tamacracka,.don't you want tosave your windows partition?
[10:52] <tamacracka> ok unmounted
[10:52] <tamacracka> hell no
[10:52] <tamacracka> i want nothin to do with windows
[10:52] <Minataku> Is there anything important on it?
[10:52] <tamacracka> nope :)
[10:52] <BluesKaj> hehe
[10:52] <Minataku> Okay
[10:52] <Minataku> lol
[10:53] <tamacracka> i backed it all up to linux :)
[10:53] <tamacracka> which was pictures lol
[10:53] <Minataku> Now, delete the partition, and make it a Linux partition
[10:53] <Minataku> I believe that's fstype 0x81
[10:53] <Minataku> Though I think gparted is friendlier than what I use
[10:53] <Minataku> So it should just say "Linux" or whatever
[10:53] <Minataku> lol
[10:53] <tamacracka> :)
[10:53] <tamacracka> yeah
[10:53] <tamacracka> ok i deleted it
[10:54] <tamacracka> now remake it? or format it?
[10:54] <Minataku> Now remake it as a Linux partitio
[10:54] <Minataku> n
[10:54] <tamacracka> Create as "primary partition?
[10:54] <tamacracka> or extended?
[10:54] <Minataku> Yes
[10:54] <Minataku> Primary
[10:54] <tamacracka> ok
[10:54] <Minataku> If gparted allows you to make the filesystem from within it, you can do it from there
[10:55] <tamacracka> yep
[10:55] <tamacracka> i made it a primary ext file system
[10:55] <Minataku> I suggest ext3
[10:55] <tamacracka> yep
[10:55] <tamacracka> now format?
[10:55] <Minataku> Tried, true... and journaling
[10:55] <Minataku> Make the filesystem, yes
[10:55] <Minataku> Format is a DOS/Windows term ;3
[10:55] <tamacracka> The following operation could not be applied to disk:
[10:55] <tamacracka> Create Primary Partition #1 (ext3, 149.05 GiB) on /dev/hda
[10:56] <Minataku> O.o
[10:56] <Minataku> You are running gparted as root, right?
[10:56] <tamacracka> yeah i clicked gparted, and put my password in
[10:56] <Minataku> What the crap...
[10:57] <Minataku> Is there any extended info on why?
[10:57] <tamacracka> it's unallocated >.>
[10:57] <tamacracka> lol
[10:57] <MidMark> some knows if there are some k3b 1.0rc4 ubuntu package?
[10:57] <Minataku> tamacracka: This is why I hate GUI tools
[10:58] <tamacracka> ok i tried it once again
[10:58] <Minataku> They tend to hide the real errors and just say "It failed" instead of "It failed because..."
[10:58] <tamacracka> and so far... it's just sittin there lol
[10:58] <Minataku> Well, it takes a bit to make the filesystem
[10:58] <LjL> Minataku: well, that's still better than saying "nothing happened", as user translate error messages into
[10:58] <Minataku> If it's still doing nothing after 60s then it's b0rk3d
[10:59] <Minataku> (Making the filesystem should really take at most around 5s)
[10:59] <tamacracka> woioohooo
[10:59] <tamacracka> i think i got it!
[10:59] <tamacracka> gonna check
[10:59] <Minataku> Try and mount it from gparted
[10:59] <Minataku> If it doesn't scream and die, then yes, you more than likely got it
[10:59] <Minataku> lol
[11:00] <tamacracka> wooot
[11:00] <tamacracka> ok
[11:00] <tamacracka> it has a folder in there
[11:00] <tamacracka> called lost and found
[11:00] <tamacracka> i clicked it
[11:00] <Minataku> That's normal
[11:00] <tamacracka> and it says i dont have permission to view it.
[11:00] <Minataku> That's for fsck
[11:00] <tamacracka> ok
[11:01] <tamacracka> now
[11:01] <tamacracka> my next question
[11:01] <tamacracka> when i restart
[11:01] <tamacracka> do i need to make my slave drive
[11:01] <tamacracka> the bootable drive?
[11:01] <tamacracka> i assume yes.
[11:01] <Minataku> When it comes across a filesystem hiccup where a file is there but orphaned (similar to "lost clusters" on a FAT filesystem) it puts it in lost+found
[11:01] <Minataku> tamacracka: Negative
[11:01] <Minataku> GRUB is on the primary
[11:01] <Minataku> So you boot from the primary
[11:01] <tamacracka> even though i just formatted my primary?
[11:01] <stdin> MidMark: don't think so, no "official" ones anyway
[11:02] <Minataku> tamacracka: Indeed
[11:02] <tamacracka> nice
[11:02] <tamacracka> i just dont wanna get stuck
[11:02] <tamacracka> where it says no operating system found
[11:02] <Minataku> Since GRUB's extended files are all set up pointing to where they are on the Linux partition
[11:02] <tamacracka> and then i can't log back onto linux lol
[11:02] <Minataku> tamacracka: You can always boot back in via the LiveCD's GRUB
[11:02] <tamacracka> oh yeah lol
[11:02] <tamacracka> ok
[11:03] <tamacracka> one very last question
[11:03] <Minataku> I'm 99.9% sure it'll reboot perfectly
[11:03] <tamacracka> how should i check my permissions on this specific drive?
[11:03] <tamacracka> to read and write.
[11:03] <Minataku> tamacracka: Well, I use a fancy-schmancy self-written fstab on my box
[11:03] <Minataku> So I'm not gonna be of much help to you at that issue
[11:03] <Minataku> lol
[11:04] <Minataku> Perhaps stdin or LjL would like to take this one? XD
[11:04] <tamacracka> ha
[11:04] <MidMark> stdin: hope to see 1.0 final in feisty
[11:04] <tamacracka> gonna attempt to copy a folder onto it
[11:04] <Minataku> tamacracka: I'm a Gentoo user, quite well-versed in GNU/Linux
[11:04] <stdin> MidMark: depends if it's stable in time
[11:04] <Minataku> That's why I told you to use fdisk at first XD
[11:05] <tamacracka> oh i see
[11:05] <Minataku> Since that's what I would have been using X3
[11:05] <tamacracka> lol
[11:05] <tamacracka> haha
[11:05] <tamacracka> yeah it's not givin me permission to read/write
[11:05] <Minataku> I'd also manually make the filesystem with "mke2fs -j /dev/hda1"
[11:05] <Minataku> XD
[11:05] <LjL> tamacracka: what kind of filesystem?
[11:05] <Minataku> Then watch it putt away at placing down the framework
[11:05] <tamacracka> wxt3 :P
[11:05] <stdin> ext2/3 permissions are stored in the filesystem
[11:05] <LjL> stdin: the virtualbox issue with kernel module and permissions was fixed by a reboot btw
[11:06] <Minataku> tamacracka: It's probably mounted for root
[11:06] <tamacracka> i just deleted windows and made this new partition into my linux storage hard drive :P
[11:06] <Minataku> Since you mounted it through gparted as root
[11:06] <tamacracka> oh tru
[11:06] <stdin> LjL: yeah, I found that too, nice little app :)
[11:06] <Minataku> It should if automounted let anyone use it, I believe
[11:06] <tamacracka> yeah i had to mount it myself
[11:06] <Minataku> I don't quite know the technical details (or really any details) of Kubuntu's specific implementations
[11:06] <LjL> stdin: well i seem to find screen redrawing a bit painfully slow compared to vmware though
[11:06] <tamacracka> i forgot how to give permissions to everyone who uses this pc
[11:07] <Minataku> tamacracka: You don't
[11:07] <Minataku> You give them permission only as far as they need
[11:07] <tamacracka> i dont?
[11:07] <tamacracka> yeah lol well.. how do i give myself permission? lol
[11:07] <Minataku> lol
[11:07] <stdin> LjL: iy can be, and there are a couple of bugs in it, but hey, it's open source :)
[11:07] <LjL> stdin: sure sure, not complaining
[11:08] <Minataku> Me, I put myself in all the proper groups and set up things like my fstab so my external drives can be mounted by me as me for me
[11:08] <tamacracka> User and Group: root
[11:08] <Minataku> So my externals are all ed/users
[11:08] <Hoxxin> why did my kubuntu go into text mode? how do i get it back to graphic mode???
[11:08] <Minataku> With reduced permissions for group
[11:08] <tamacracka> ah i see... im barely novice on kubuntu
[11:08] <Minataku> tamacracka: I've been around the block a few times
[11:08] <Minataku> lol
[11:09] <tamacracka> aha
[11:09] <Minataku> I do all my file maintenance via xterm, for example
[11:09] <Minataku> No GUI file manager
[11:09] <tamacracka> damn
[11:09] <tamacracka> basically DOS mode like?
[11:09] <Minataku> Indeed
[11:09] <tamacracka> i dont think i'd have the patience lol
[11:09] <Minataku> tamacracka: It's actually faster and easier
[11:10] <stdin> CLI is faster IMO
[11:10] <tamacracka> LjL... when ever you're free can you help me with permissions on my storage hard drive that i just created?
[11:10] <Minataku> stdin could probably help too
[11:10] <stdin> tamacracka: it's ext3 yes ?
[11:10] <tamacracka> That sounds like... a paradox
[11:10] <tamacracka> yes
[11:10] <tamacracka> ext3
[11:10] <Minataku> I'd give it my magic but Kubuntu would probably cry at my ways XD
[11:10] <stdin> tamacracka: any the problem is only root can right to it ?
[11:10] <tamacracka> it was ntfs and i just formatted it and created it into primary ext3 filesystem
[11:10] <tamacracka> yeah user and group: root
[11:11] <tamacracka> from what my properties tells me
[11:11] <tamacracka> lol Min
[11:11] <stdin> tamacracka: try chmoding it
[11:11] <tamacracka> ?
[11:11] <tamacracka> type that in terminal?
[11:11] <manu_> hi
[11:11] <stdin> tamacracka: yep, time for the term :)
[11:11] <Minataku> tamacracka: chmod determines who can do what to something
[11:12] <fdoving> tamacracka: if you remove the fstab entry for it, hal and pmount will pick it up and give you a fancy popup asking you what you want to do when you plug it in.
[11:12] <Minataku> fdoving: It's internal
[11:12] <tamacracka> it's not an external drive
[11:12] <tamacracka> it's internal
[11:12] <stdin> tamacracka: where is it mounted ?
[11:12] <manu_> i have a problem with kmix he changed my soudncard without i did anything, i have only one sound"card" a onboard chip realtek97
[11:12] <tamacracka> hda1
[11:12] <manu_> and a tvtunter card wchich has a line in chip
[11:12] <tamacracka> chmod hda1
[11:12] <tamacracka> ?
[11:12] <stdin> tamacracka: where is it? /media/hda1?
[11:12] <Minataku> tamacracka: It has to have a mount point
[11:12] <fdoving> tamacracka: no, chmod the mountpoint.
[11:13] <tamacracka> oh ok hold on
[11:13] <Minataku> That's where in the filesystem you access the root of that filesystem from
[11:13] <tamacracka>  /media/hda1
[11:13] <manu_> now i can with my special keys on the keyboard chnge the volume but not of the output, i can only chnage the input of this tv tuner card
[11:13] <manu_> can you help?
[11:13] <stdin> tamacracka: try: sudo chmod 777 /media/hda1
[11:13] <Minataku> WOAH
[11:13] <Minataku> Slow down there cowboy
[11:13] <Minataku> 775
[11:13] <Minataku> rwxrwxr-x
[11:13] <tamacracka> 777 or 775?
[11:13] <tamacracka> <,<
[11:13] <Minataku> 775
[11:14] <tamacracka> for a fact?
[11:14] <Minataku> Don't want world having write permissions
[11:14] <manu_> fdoving: can you help?
[11:14] <HymnToLife> 700 ftw :p
[11:14] <tamacracka> wooohoooo
[11:14] <stdin> Minataku, tamacracka yeah, 755, typed to fast :P
[11:14] <tamacracka> 755?
[11:14] <Minataku> stdin: 775 if it's multiuser
[11:14] <tamacracka> lol
[11:14] <tamacracka> wait
[11:14] <tamacracka> hahaha
[11:14] <Minataku> tamacracka: Are others going to be allowed to use this for storage?
[11:14] <HymnToLife> tamacracka, 775 and 755 should do the same thing
[11:14] <tamacracka> 700, 755, 775, 777?
[11:14] <Alumin> what's the proper way to authenticate to CUPS?  I tried "lppasswd -a myusername", but it's still not accepting that username and password or any of the system usernames and passwords
[11:15] <stdin> Minataku: I'd say to chgrp it too
[11:15] <tamacracka> ah ok
[11:15] <HymnToLife> read-write to you, read-only to everyone else
[11:15] <fdoving> manu_: sorry, i'm not into volume control keys. :|
[11:15] <tamacracka> Mina
[11:15] <tamacracka> there's only one user that logs onto this machine
[11:15] <Minataku> tamacracka: Oh
[11:15] <tamacracka> which is i :P
[11:15] <Alumin> when I say "not accepting", I mean for admin commands at http://localhost:631
[11:15] <Minataku> Then just make it yours entirely and 755
[11:15] <tamacracka> woohoo
[11:16] <tamacracka> cool :)
[11:16] <manu_> fdoving: ok dowsnt matter, the problem is that this keys control the master volume and this has changed (i dont know why) to the line in of the tv tuner
[11:16] <tamacracka> what was 777?
[11:16] <Minataku> That's how my external partitions are, ed owns them since ed is the only user besides root on the machine
[11:16] <HymnToLife> read-write access to everyone
[11:16] <manu_> how to get back to the soudn output of my sound chip fdoving?
[11:16] <manu_> :(
[11:16] <Minataku> chmod gives an octal value in three groups
[11:16] <virnik> gn
[11:16] <tamacracka> oh... i see
[11:16] <Minataku> First is owner, second is group, third is "everyone else"
[11:16] <tamacracka> I gotta get me a book on linux <,< hard copy lol
[11:17] <stdin> !permissions
[11:17] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:17] <tamacracka> when you say everyone
[11:17] <Minataku> Within those three are three binary bits
[11:17] <tamacracka> do you mean
[11:17] <tamacracka> even on the network?
[11:17] <Minataku> tamacracka: Anyone who isn't either owner or group member
[11:17] <fdoving> manu_: do you have the kmix icon in your systray? right-click -> select master channel maybe?
[11:17] <HymnToLife> Minataku, that sounds lika a nice tongue-twister :p
[11:17] <Minataku> HymnToLife: lol
[11:17] <tamacracka> i understand :P
[11:17] <stdin> tamacracka: "everyone" means anyone who isn't the owner or in the group
[11:18] <tamacracka> meaning
[11:18] <Minataku> Anyway, there's a 3-bit binary number for permissions, binary is a weighted-style base-2 system
[11:18] <tamacracka> they can access it
[11:18] <tamacracka> without a password
[11:18] <HymnToLife> no
[11:18] <tamacracka> or do "anything" to it without a password?
[11:18] <Minataku> r, read, has a weight of 4
[11:18] <HymnToLife> they still need to have a user account on the system
[11:18] <Minataku> w, write, has a weight of 2
[11:18] <tamacracka> oh ok
[11:18] <Minataku> x, execute, has a weight of 1
[11:18] <HymnToLife> or crack their way into it :p
[11:18] <tamacracka> yeah im the only user :P
[11:19] <Minataku> For directories, x determines if you can "cd" into it
[11:19] <tamacracka> they have to crack the start up password lol then the log on password
[11:19] <Minataku> So unless you don't want anyone going in there, you always have at least 1 on a directory
[11:19] <tamacracka> understood
[11:19] <manu_> fdoving: downst help
[11:19] <manu_> doesnt
[11:20] <HymnToLife> Minataku, root can still go in a 000-chmodded dir
[11:20] <Minataku> HymnToLife: Well, root is special
[11:20] <HymnToLife> root ftw :p
[11:20] <Minataku> That's why it's use is more-or-less discouraged in Kubuntu
[11:20] <tamacracka> ha
[11:20] <Minataku> Since most would use root all the time which is stupid and irresponsible
[11:21] <Minataku> tamacracka: If you ever come across a command, in a terminal type "man <whatever>"
[11:21] <HymnToLife> yeah, they could as well use Windows :p
[11:21] <Minataku> Like "man chmod"
[11:21] <tamacracka> manual?
[11:21] <Minataku> Which would probably explain it better than I tried to
[11:21] <Phlosten> man is your friend
[11:21] <dope> so what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server?
[11:21] <fdoving> manu_: then i don't know.
[11:21] <tamacracka> oh sweet
[11:21] <tamacracka> i didn't know that
[11:21] <HymnToLife> dope, ubuntu server has no GUI
[11:21] <Minataku> Well, change "probably" to "definitely"
[11:22] <Minataku> Or, in sed script, that's s/probably/definitely/
[11:22] <dope> oh
[11:22] <Minataku> But that's a whole different command
[11:22] <Minataku> XD
[11:22] <tamacracka> haha
[11:22] <dope> is fedore better than ubuntu?
[11:22] <tamacracka> man im happy i no longer need windows
[11:22] <dope> fedora
[11:22] <manu_> fdoving: perhps delet all config files?
[11:22] <Minataku> tamacracka: Thank you for choosing Open Source :D
[11:22] <mervteck> hey guys
[11:22] <tamacracka> the only thing that was holdin me back was my portable mp3 player
[11:22] <manu_> where can i do that fdoving
[11:23] <tamacracka> but rockbox made a GUI for my mp3 player :)
[11:23] <Minataku> tamacracka: :D
[11:23] <tamacracka> and rockbox is linux based :P
[11:23] <HymnToLife> dope, imo, Ubuntu is a million times better than Fedora
[11:23] <mervteck> kubuntu is best! XD
[11:23] <dope> :O
[11:23] <Minataku> tamacracka: Now, at your own pace, of course, I'd suggest learning the CLI
[11:23] <tamacracka> CLI?
[11:23] <HymnToLife> !cli
[11:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:23] <tamacracka> oh jes
[11:24] <Minataku> BTW: Don't let anyone (but me) tell you which editor is best... whatever they tell you to use, you use nano
[11:24] <Minataku> !nano
[11:24] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:24] <tamacracka> thanks :P
[11:24] <tamacracka> yeah nano is awesome
[11:24] <tamacracka> i was using kedit
[11:24] <stdin> whatever you do, don't use vim :P
[11:24] <tamacracka> "sometimes"
[11:24] <Minataku> I'm an experienced Linux user and even I hate vi and emacs
[11:24] <Alumin> bah @ nano
[11:24] <Minataku> vi requires memorizing a bunch of arcane and asinine commands
[11:24] <tamacracka> kedit or fedit
[11:25] <Alumin> let's make an editor that destroys files with long lines!
[11:25] <Minataku> emacs requires the same PLUS approximately 22 fingers
[11:25] <tamacracka> lol
[11:25] <Alumin> we'll call it the pine composer, pico for short
[11:25] <HymnToLife> Alumin, that's what the -w switch is for...
[11:25] <Phlosten> Alumin: its more fun that way!
[11:25] <Alumin> then doing it once wasn't a bad enough idea, let's _clone_ that functionality and call it nano!
[11:25] <Minataku> -w? I need to alias that
[11:25] <dope> what's the best way to transfer a bunch of files to another computer?  is there a prefered protocol?
[11:25] <Alumin> HymnToLife: how about making "destroy the file" not the default behaviour
[11:25] <stu_> Has anyone ever used Automatix? Is it generally...slow? lol
[11:26] <HymnToLife> Alumin, I wonder that too
[11:26] <Minataku> Only thing that pisses me off about nano is the addition of \n
[11:26] <LjL> !automatix | stu_
[11:26] <ubotu> stu_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:26] <Minataku> !automatix
[11:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:26] <Minataku> lol
[11:26] <HymnToLife> but that doesn't bother me much
[11:26] <tamacracka> oh...
[11:26] <Alumin> if you're going to recommend an editor, recommend a graphical editor
[11:26] <tamacracka> im gettin rid of automatix <,<
[11:26] <Alumin> kedit, kate
[11:26] <HymnToLife> kate ftw
[11:26] <Alumin> or if it has to be console, joe
[11:26] <HymnToLife> but honestly
[11:26] <moparisthebest> kate isn't half bad tbh
[11:27] <HymnToLife> I don't fancy running kate to edit my fstab
[11:27] <moparisthebest> why not?
[11:27] <Alumin> HymnToLife: well, do you want lowest common denominator or don't you?
[11:28] <dope> how do i know i'm getting the server edition?
[11:28] <Minataku> If you ask me, the GUI is merely a convience
[11:28] <Alumin> of what, (k)ubuntu?
[11:28] <dope> ubuntu
[11:28] <Minataku> Editing files, CLI
[11:28] <HymnToLife> dope, if you downloaded an ISO with "server" in its filename
[11:28] <stdin> dope: if you get the server iso, it's the server edition
[11:28] <Minataku> IRC Chat, GUI
[11:28] <HymnToLife> it's the server edition
[11:28] <Minataku> Web browsing, GUI
[11:28] <Alumin> dope: it's the same thing, just different package selections
[11:28] <Minataku> Practically everything else, CLI
[11:28] <Minataku> lol
[11:28] <dope> where can i find that
[11:28] <Minataku> But that's just me X3
[11:29] <dope> crap nevermind
[11:29] <Alumin> want -server?  "apt-get --purge remove x-window-system"  :P
[11:29] <Minataku> Or just remove X from the default runlevel :P
[11:29] <HymnToLife> Minataku, about the same here, GUI for email too
[11:29] <Minataku> HymnToLife: I use nothing but web-based email
[11:29] <HymnToLife> and image processing in GIMP since I'm quite much into photography
[11:29] <Minataku> I look at... images in a VT using fbi
[11:29] <Minataku> !fbi
[11:29] <ubotu> fbi: Linux frame buffer image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 176 kB
[11:30] <dope> dammit, i was downloading the desktop one again
[11:30] <HymnToLife> look at them is one thing
[11:30] <HymnToLife> working on them is another :p
[11:30] <Minataku> I'd say what kind of images they are but... oh, Jucato isn't here
[11:30] <Minataku> HymnToLife: True
[11:30] <Alumin> what, there's no fb version of Gimp? :)
[11:30] <Minataku> But then using The GIMP to look at porn is overkill
[11:30] <Minataku> XD
[11:30] <Alumin> svgagimp!
[11:30] <Alumin> speaking of console stuff
[11:31] <Alumin> have any of you guys ever run mplayer in svgalib mode?  is it faster?
[11:31] <Minataku> Well, it does cut out any overhead caused by the GUI
[11:31] <Alumin> yeah, my gut feeling is that it would be faster because of that
[11:31] <Minataku> Since instead of initalizing X11 this and opening X11 that
[11:31] <Minataku> It just writes everything to VRAM instead
[11:32] <Alumin> I should try it when I get home
[11:32] <Alumin> I have a laptop that's just _barely_ able to play movies without lagging
[11:32] <Minataku> Alumin: Spend some quality time with Rosy Palm and her Five Friends?
[11:33] <Alumin> Minataku: maybe the six of them will get together in a group and meet your nose :P
[11:33] <Minataku> lol
[11:33] <Minataku> Alumin: Sorry XD
[11:33] <Alumin> I knew there was a comeback there
[11:33] <Alumin> I just had to find it
[11:33] <Minataku> rofl
[11:33] <Alumin> actually, it's not the pr0n that's the problem, it's usually small enough to fit in -cache
[11:34] <elyon225> How do I prevent my CD drives from displaying an icon on my desktop?  I've tried disabling "Device Icons" through Configure Desktop, but it's still there.
[11:34] <Minataku> Note, though, I wasn't insulting you with that
[11:34] <Alumin> it's the (non-pr0n) home movies that actually require disk access
[11:34] <master_> !wireless
[11:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:34] <Minataku> lol
[11:34] <Minataku> Alumin: Nice catch, you woulda caught hell if you didn't specify "non-pr0n"
[11:34] <Minataku> XD
[11:35] <Alumin> there are certain things you just learn to account for on IRC :p
[11:35] <Minataku> lol
[11:35] <Minataku> Indeed
[11:36] <dope> anyone notice memory leaks with swiftfox?
[11:37] <Minataku> Firefox itself is a tad leaky
[11:37] <Minataku> Just close it every couple of days
[11:37] <Minataku> It'll clean up it's mess and you can start it again all fresh and clean
[11:38] <Minataku> Until maybe 5 more days later and you have to do it again
[11:38] <Minataku> lol
[11:38] <elyon225> How do I prevent my CD drives from displaying an icon on my desktop?  I've tried disabling "Device Icons" through Configure Desktop, but it's still there.
[11:38] <Minataku> Linux cleans up after memory leaks, unlike Windows
[11:38] <Minataku> All memory malloc()'d to a Linux processes is free()'d after the process closes
[11:47] <hbarrera> hallo
[11:48] <dope> oh herro
[11:50] <elyon225> How do I prevent my CD drives from displaying an icon on my desktop?  I've tried disabling "Device Icons" through Configure Desktop, but it's still there.
[11:51] <gabaryah> i need help after installing ubuntu i'm unable to boot into vista
[11:52] <elyon225> gabaryah: Stop pirating software and you wouldn't have the problem.
[11:52] <gabaryah> what are you talking about
[11:52] <gabaryah> i'm asking for help
[11:52] <BluesKaj> elyon225, have you tried configging the cdrom drive itself in system menu/storage media
[11:52] <gabaryah> mentioned nothing about pirating stuf
[11:52] <chavo> elyon225, you can get vista legally chill out
[11:52] <gabaryah> exactly
[11:53] <chavo> gabaryah, were you ever able to dual boot
[11:53] <gabaryah> it's there while booting up
[11:53] <elyon225> BluesKaj: Nope... didn't think to.  what is the whole point of KDE's Desktop configuration then?  Because none of the changes made there made any difference.
[11:53] <SpYmAn> Gente, desativei a barra de ferramentas do Konversation, como habilito denovo??? 0_o
[11:53] <gabaryah> however when i choose it goes back to grub menu
[11:53] <LjL> Ubotu, tell SpYmAn about pt | SpYmAn, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:53] <gabaryah> no first boot
[11:54] <SpYmAn> sorry.
[11:54] <LjL> SpYmAn: it's ok, that is the "barra de ferramentas"? the toolbar?
[11:54] <elyon225> BluesKaj: And right-clicking and choosing Properties doesn't offer anything in the way of desktop icons.
[11:54] <SpYmAn> isso
[11:54] <LjL> SpYmAn: Settings / Show toolbars <- if it is
[11:54] <SpYmAn> Yes
[11:54] <gabaryah> Vista is on my first partiton /dev/hda2
[11:54] <gabaryah> Vista is on my first partiton /dev/hda1
[11:54] <LjL> Impostacaos i guess SpYmAn
[11:55] <SpYmAn> The menu settings not appears
[11:55] <LjL> SpYmAn: is the menu in english or portuguese?
[11:55] <LjL> does the menu appear at all?
[11:55] <SpYmAn> English
[11:55] <LjL> SpYmAn: try pressing Ctrl+M
[11:55] <SpYmAn> THX!
[11:56] <gabaryah> guess nobody here can help
[11:56] <gabaryah> :(
[11:56] <SpYmAn> menu in English = menu Portuguese..
[11:56] <SpYmAn> ;)
[11:56] <SpYmAn> thx
[11:56] <LjL> SpYmAn: you're welcome :)
[11:56] <BluesKaj> !pt
[11:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:56] <LjL> gabaryah: i've never used vista, but try pasting your /boot/grub/menu.lst to the pastebin and i'll have a look
[11:57] <eegore> Does anyone know how I can have a terminal launch on the right click on the desktop in KDE
[11:57] <gabaryah> ok thx
[11:57] <chavo> should be the same as xp dual boot
[11:57] <eegore> in the menu
[11:57] <elyon225> eegore: You could create a link to the ~/Desktop and put it on your Desktop.  But as far as adding it to the actual context menu, I'm not sure you can do that.
[11:57] <gabaryah> http://pastebin.ca/327427
[11:58] <SpYmAn> LjL, only a doubt... How do you was know what I wront in Portuguese?
[11:58] <LjL> eegore: would a F key work for you?
[11:58] <gabaryah> did you get it?
[11:58] <chavo> yes you can have a custom right clik menu on desktop
[11:58] <LjL> SpYmAn: i am italian, so i can understand a little
[11:58] <elyon225> gabaryah: Looks like GRUB is pointing the Vista to load from hda0, which is where GRUB itself is located :)
[11:58] <chavo> go to Configure Desktop -> Behavior Tab
[11:58] <SpYmAn> Hummm
[11:58] <gabaryah> right
[11:58] <chavo> you can configure what each click does and make a custom menu of apps
[11:59] <elyon225> chavo: Wow... I never new you could do the custom menus :)  Nice.
[11:59] <elyon225> chavo: You know how I can get this stupid cdrom icon to stay off my desktop?
[11:59] <gabaryah> i tried to putting grub on my mbr but my pc won't boot anything upless i use the live cd than select boot from first HD
[12:00] <elyon225> chavo: Then you most likely overwrote the Vista boot record.
[12:00] <chavo> elyon225, should be in the same desktop comfigoration window
[12:00] <eegore> LjL: pardong me?
[12:00] <chavo> no my vista boot is working gabaryah's isnt
[12:00] <elyon225> chavo: I know where it SAYS I can configure which device icons appear, but no changed I make there actually do anything.
[12:00] <chavo> ah
[12:00] <chavo> I just turned em all off
[12:00] <elyon225> chavo: Oh, sorry lol... wrong completion.
[12:00] <LjL> eegore: F1, F2, F3 etc... if one of those keys brought up a console, would it be OK for you?
[12:00] <gabaryah> ok
[12:00] <chavo> ok
[12:00] <elyon225> chavo: I've tried turning them all off too, but it still shows up.
[12:01] <LjL> i don't know how to add it to the desktop menu eegore, but i can probably do that
[12:01] <elyon225> gabaryah: \ Then you most likely overwrote the Vista boot record.
[12:01] <eegore> elyon225: there has to be a file to edit somewhere for the right click on the desktop
[12:01] <gabaryah> ok i  just installed grub to my MBR
[12:01] <elyon225> eegore: Did you read what chavo said?
[12:01] <gabaryah> going to reboot & see what happens
[12:01] <SpYmAn> LjL, Im new here, and Im loving Linux users, you're very "atencioso"(people that friendly helper).. THX!
[12:01] <elyon225> gabaryah: Good luck
[12:01] <gabaryah> i
[12:01] <gabaryah> ll BEEEE back
[12:02] <gabaryah> i'LL
[12:02] <chavo> SpYmAn, that's what Ubuntu/Kubuntu is all about :)
[12:02] <gabaryah> i can easily fix vista boot
[12:02] <eegore> chavo: what file has the settings for the right click on the desktop
[12:02] <gabaryah> ubuntu is what i'm worried about
[12:02] <elyon225> SpYmAn: Without this channel, there is NO way I'd have gotten Ubuntu up and running.  As it is it still took weeks, but at least it's almost done now lol
[12:02] <SpYmAn> lol
[12:02] <elyon225> gabaryah: Did you have Ubuntu installed first?
[12:03] <gabaryah> no
[12:03] <gabaryah> i have xp & vista
[12:03] <gabaryah> than installed ubuntu
[12:03] <elyon225> eegore: If you right-click your desktop and choose "Configure Desktop" just select the "Behavior" tab.
[12:03] <eegore> oh by the way is there any reason to go to the newest version of KDE
[12:03] <elyon225> eegore: Then, at the bottom, it allows you to setup a custom menu for the right-click action.
[12:04] <elyon225> gabaryah: Well, you can always get back into Ubuntu using the live CD to reinstall GRUB.
[12:04] <gabaryah> question when i changed my grub from my first ha partition to MBR will it move the older grub?
[12:04] <elyon225> gabaryah: I would imagine not.  You may end up needing to reinstall Windows (or repair if that's an option)... then reinstall GRUB to the mbr.
[12:05] <gabaryah> right
[12:05] <elyon225> gabaryah: You can thank Microsoft for denying the existance of other operating systems and refusing to allow dual booting.
[12:06] <gabaryah> same thing i'm thinking but after chatting with you i understand why it's not working anymore my mistake was installing grub the same partition Vista was on
[12:06] <elyon225> gabaryah: Yeah, you don't want to do that when all of Vista's boot information was most likely stored there too.
[12:06] <gabaryah> thanks elyon225
[12:06] <elyon225> gabaryah: My pleasure.
[12:07] <SpYmAn> LjL, What tips you can teach me for Kubuntu?
[12:07] <crusty> hello! kaffeine do not work anymore....any help??
[12:08] <LjL> SpYmAn, it really depends a lot on what you use and do... just ask questions when you have them ;)
[12:09] <dope> i'm tryin to install ssh on a server installation of ubuntu but it keeps asking me to insert the disc.  why won't it just get it off the internet?
[12:09] <elyon225> SpYmAn: I have some tips that have helped me.  READ, READ, READ to wiki, forums, documentation... and spend a lot of time in here :)
[12:09] <gabaryah> back
[12:09] <SpYmAn> ok... =)
[12:10] <elyon225> Sometimes you'll get answers, sometimes following advice will screw things up.  But hey, you'll learn a lot in the process.
[12:10] <elyon225> gabaryah: And?
[12:10] <gabaryah> must be on my vista drive
[12:10] <elyon225> gabaryah: I'm assuming since you're here that you were unable to boot into Vista... :)
[12:10] <gabaryah> when i click on vista from grub menu it loops back to grub
[12:11] <gabaryah> just like before
[12:11] <elyon225> gabaryah: Yeah, Vista assumes that it's own boot info is at hda0, so it sends you there, only to find the GRUB program and load that again.
[12:11] <gabaryah> if it wasn't there & i had clicked on vista from grub menu either it would have loaded vista or gave me a error
[12:12] <Alumin> dope: because your cdrom sources have higher priority than your network sources