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| \sh | BenC, feisty kernel 2.6.20-5 is not giving me any sound anymore... | 10:04 |
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| \sh | rebooting into edgy kernel | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | \sh_away: are you sure alsa isnt muted? a few people have complained about one of the updates muting sound | 10:06 |
| BenC | \sh_away: If you have a hda conexant codec, it's possible that you need to run alsamixer to fix things up a bit | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | the person that i first heard this from it mutes on reboot | 10:11 |
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| ogra | BenC, ping | 11:20 |
| BenC | ogra: Yo | 11:20 |
| ogra | can we get via eden support enabled in the -386 kernel ? | 11:20 |
| ogra | http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF05a/35123-342039-342039-342039-637507-12235620.html | 11:21 |
| ogra | i have some users with these | 11:21 |
| ogra | they dont boot at all | 11:21 |
| BenC | ogra: What's required to enable it? | 11:21 |
| ogra | dunno ... i havent looked at the config yet .... | 11:21 |
| ogra | i'll find it out | 11:21 |
| BenC | -386 is a basic 486 minimum kernel | 11:21 |
| BenC | a cpuinfo from the machine would help | 11:22 |
| BenC | or from any via eden for that matter | 11:22 |
| ogra | ok, i'll try to get one ... but thats a bit tricky without booting indeed :) | 11:22 |
| BenC | I know the -386 works on my via proc | 11:22 |
| BenC | EPIA M10k | 11:22 |
| ogra | the guy having the prob tried his laptop which apparently works, so it must be a kernel option i guess | 11:23 |
| ogra | s/works/boots/ | 11:23 |
| BenC | It comes with 2.4 linux kernel, so you should be able to get /proc/cpuinfo from the base system | 11:24 |
| ogra | ah, k | 11:24 |
| ogra | i dont have a -386 config handy, but i think its CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 you need enabled | 11:24 |
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| ogra | BenC, SiCk is the guy having the problem | 11:25 |
| ogra | SiCk, can you boot into the flashcard on the HP ? | 11:25 |
| ogra | and get us the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo ? | 11:25 |
| SiCk | yeah i can ogra | 11:26 |
| SiCk | sorry, how do i do that? | 11:26 |
| SiCk | i can boot in and get to the console | 11:26 |
| ogra | boot the client without net connection i guess | 11:26 |
| ogra | great | 11:26 |
| ogra | just type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" | 11:27 |
| SiCk | ah okay.. one minute, booting thsi up | 11:27 |
| ogra | (without quotes) | 11:27 |
| BenC | relevant lines are the "vendor_id", "model name" and "flags" | 11:27 |
| BenC | cpu family and stepping would be helpful too | 11:27 |
| SiCk | will do | 11:28 |
| BenC | Can you descibe the failure during ubuntu boot? | 11:28 |
| ogra | BenC, it just stops after "Uncompressing Linux..." | 11:28 |
| BenC | is quiet and splash disabled? | 11:28 |
| ogra | doesnt get to load the initramfs | 11:29 |
| ogra | yep | 11:29 |
| SiCk | \sh: cat/proc/cpuinfo: | 11:29 |
| SiCk | not found | 11:29 |
| SiCk | sigh | 11:29 |
| ogra | you miss a space | 11:29 |
| BenC | space | 11:29 |
| ogra | cat / | 11:29 |
| ogra | ... | 11:29 |
| SiCk | duur Sick | 11:29 |
| BenC | is this a netboot? | 11:29 |
| SiCk | nope | 11:30 |
| SiCk | this is booting off the flashdrive | 11:30 |
| BenC | no, the ubuntu boot, is it from network? | 11:30 |
| ogra | yes | 11:30 |
| SiCk | ah, yes, pxe | 11:30 |
| ogra | its an ltsp boot | 11:30 |
| ogra | PXE | 11:30 |
| BenC | are you sure it's the -386 kernel and not say -generic or -server? | 11:30 |
| SiCk | vendor_id: CentaurHauls | 11:30 |
| SiCk | cpu family: 6 | 11:30 |
| SiCk | model name VIA Samuel 2 | 11:31 |
| ogra | SiCk, can you do a "ls /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/" on the server afterwards ? | 11:31 |
| ogra | so we can see you didnt end up with a wrong kernel package | 11:31 |
| SiCk | flags: fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow | 11:31 |
| SiCk | yep.. ill do that now | 11:31 |
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| ogra | just check if there are many files with -386 as suffix ... or if you have -generic instead | 11:32 |
| ogra | (should be -386 ... and i would have no explanation why it could be -generic) | 11:32 |
| BenC | there should be no reason for it to not boot the -386 kernel... | 11:32 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:32 |
| SiCk | yeah, most are -386 | 11:33 |
| ogra | SiCk, any -generic in that list ? | 11:33 |
| SiCk | nope | 11:33 |
| ogra | please do the same ls for /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ | 11:34 |
| ogra | and check for -generic as well there | 11:34 |
| SiCk | apparently ther eis no such directory | 11:35 |
| ogra | without the i386 then ... | 11:35 |
| SiCk | remember this is edubuntu, it likes to move things around | 11:35 |
| ogra | are you running edgy or dapper ? | 11:35 |
| SiCk | ah, that's 386 too | 11:35 |
| ogra | i object that ... i would know if it would "move things around" :) | 11:36 |
| SiCk | dapper | 11:36 |
| BenC | gotta reboot | 11:36 |
| ogra | (i maintain it) | 11:36 |
| SiCk | ahh haha, explains alot | 11:36 |
| ogra | yeah, the missing ../i386/ indicates dapper | 11:36 |
| SiCk | *in awe* | 11:36 |
| ogra | but even the dapper -386 kernel should work afaik ... | 11:36 |
| ogra | SiCk, yure a lucky guy ... we all sit here in a room at the ubuntu developer sprint :) | 11:37 |
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| SiCk | well i'm officially starstruck | 11:38 |
| SiCk | haha | 11:38 |
| ogra | SiCk, how critical would it be to set this server up with edgy ? | 11:38 |
| ogra | is it in production already ? | 11:39 |
| SiCk | not at all, we're sitting with another system, it basically works by sending video over cat-5e to plasma screens | 11:39 |
| SiCk | we have loads of thin clients doing nothing | 11:39 |
| ogra | wait a sec | 11:39 |
| ogra | i'm just told we'll get a new kernel package to test ... | 11:40 |
| SiCk | so instead of sending it from everywhere we'd like to have them displaying it from the plasma itself, the pc behind the screen | 11:40 |
| ogra | so lets wait until thats done and i'll walk you through installing it | 11:40 |
| SiCk | sounds good i think.. haha | 11:40 |
| ogra | :) | 11:40 |
| ogra | oki... | 11:40 |
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| SiCk | enjoy :) | 11:40 |
| \sh | well,,,kernel works again....strange that alsa was setting my headphone jack automagically...but I don't have headphone jack sensing ;) | 11:47 |
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| SiCk | ogra: any call on the kernel or will it be a while? | 12:39 |
| ogra | kylem, ? | 12:39 |
| kylem | still building, shouldn't take much longer | 12:39 |
| SiCk | not rushing or anything, i have all day, just wondering haha | 12:39 |
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| kylem | ogra, http://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/ogra/2007-01-24/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.50_i386.deb | 01:59 |
| ogra | SiCk, ^^^^ download that one: cd /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp && sudo wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/ogra/2007-01-24/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.50_i386.deb | 02:00 |
| ogra | SiCk, then: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -i /tmp/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.50_i386.deb | 02:01 |
| SiCk | is this a full install? or just the kernel for the pxe? | 02:02 |
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| ogra | if thats done, hit ctrl-d to get to the normal system again and run: sudo ltsp-update-kernels | 02:02 |
| ogra | then boot the client | 02:02 |
| ogra | thats only a new kernel image | 02:02 |
| SiCk | ah okay | 02:02 |
| ogra | followin the three steps above should work | 02:03 |
| SiCk | i shall try it | 02:03 |
| SiCk | gotta run here for an hour guys | 02:11 |
| SiCk | back soon and ill let you know how it goes | 02:11 |
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| SiCk | back guys | 03:01 |
| SiCk | problem with the chroot bit. | 03:01 |
| SiCk | setting locale failed | 03:01 |
| ogra | ignore | 03:02 |
| SiCk | said that twice and then i get | 03:03 |
| SiCk | perl: warning: falling back to the standard locale ("C"). | 03:03 |
| ogra | right, ignore that | 03:03 |
| SiCk | ill go on to the next one then | 03:04 |
| ogra | you can as well prefix the sudo dpkg -i with LANG=C | 03:04 |
| ogra | that will suppress the warnings | 03:04 |
| SiCk | ah okay | 03:04 |
| ogra | but you can as well ignore them, they are just wanrings | 03:05 |
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| SiCk | it weeeerkkkkss! | 03:10 |
| ogra | YAY | 03:10 |
| SiCk | ogra you are the greatest. you're loved by 3 people in this room. | 03:10 |
| SiCk | and benc | 03:10 |
| SiCk | 1 weeee question, i dont mean to push... how do i get this running as kiosk? | 03:11 |
| SiCk | and is there software to manage eaach client from the server? | 03:11 |
| ogra | SiCk, kylem did all the work, i only pointed you to the right person :) | 03:11 |
| SiCk | kylem then, thankyouu! | 03:11 |
| kylem | no problemo. | 03:12 |
| ogra | SiCk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoWriteLTSP5Plugins has a kiosk mode plugin ... look at what it does and do the same to your chroot | 03:12 |
| SiCk | i just follow this whole guide then yep? | 03:14 |
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| ogra | SiCk, that would mean you need to rebuild your client chroot with ltsp-build-client ... following the steps in the code would work without it ... | 03:19 |
| ogra | essentially its: install gdm and firefox, add /home and /var/lib/gdm to copy_dirs and rw_dirs in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/defaults/ltsp-client-setup and set gdm in /opt/ltsp/i386 to autologin for a user you create in there | 03:21 |
| ogra | but anyway, this belongs to #ltsp or #edubuntu, lets not spam the kernel channel :) | 03:22 |
| SiCk | ah good point.. see you there :D haha | 03:22 |
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| mjg59 | kylem: Inserting an SD card into the TI readers doesn't generate a hotplug event | 03:51 |
| kylem | pourque? | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | kylem: line 173 of drivers/misc/tifm_7xx1.c | 03:53 |
| kylem | if we get a card insertion request it shouldn't be too hard | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | kylem: That needs to generate a hotplug event that requests tifm_sd.ko somehow | 03:54 |
| mjg59 | Which presumably requires some sort of modalias magic | 03:54 |
| mjg59 | Well, requests tifm_sd.ko in the case of it being an sd card | 03:54 |
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| mjg59 | Oh, wait | 03:54 |
| mjg59 | There's a device_register call there | 03:55 |
| mjg59 | So maybe there is a hotplug event generated | 03:55 |
| kylem | hehe | 03:55 |
| mjg59 | In which case, the bus_id is tifm_sd* | 03:55 |
| kylem | ok. i'll beat up whoever our udev person is. | 03:55 |
| mjg59 | So there just needs to be something to tie that to tifm_sd.ko | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | Oh, rock | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | He's just checked in support for memory stick | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | ...and I've left my machine with the appropriate hardware in .au | 03:57 |
| mjg59 | kylem: So, uh, can you also update the tifm stuff from svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/tifmxx/trunk ? :) | 03:57 |
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| kylem | possibly. | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | Oh, no, wait | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | I may actually have hardware | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | It's so easy to lose track | 03:59 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, I win | 03:59 |
| mjg59 | I'll try to test that later | 04:01 |
| kylem | thanks. | 04:01 |
| mjg59 | MS support would be kind of nice | 04:02 |
| kylem | MS? | 04:02 |
| kylem | memory stick? | 04:02 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 04:04 |
| mjg59 | Oh, ha | 04:11 |
| mjg59 | I've only got one memory stick, and this machine will only accept pro | 04:11 |
| mjg59 | Need to buy some, I guess | 04:11 |
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| mjg59 | Nngh, why is memory stick so expensive? | 04:17 |
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| zul | how much? | 04:18 |
| mjg59 | At least 25 | 04:19 |
| mjg59 | As far as I can tell | 04:19 |
| Mithrandir | strange, a 256MB memorystick is around 7 here. | 04:21 |
| mjg59 | The sony removable flash, rather than USB ones? | 04:22 |
| Mithrandir | a sandisk stick. | 04:23 |
| mjg59 | I'm talking about Memory Stick, the Sony equivilent of SD or compact flash | 04:24 |
| Mithrandir | yes, so am I | 04:24 |
| mjg59 | Ah, ok | 04:24 |
| mjg59 | Sandisk do them? Hm. | 04:24 |
| Mithrandir | a memory stick pro, made by sandisk. | 04:24 |
| Mithrandir | (not duo) | 04:24 |
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| mjg59 | Yeah, looks like I could just about match that online | 04:25 |
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| BenC | zul: ping | 05:55 |
| zul | BenC: pong | 05:58 |
| zul | whats up? | 05:58 |
| BenC | zul: Hey dude, have you had a chance to look at the breezy security stuff? | 05:58 |
| zul | yeah i was doing it last night im about half way done | 05:58 |
| zul | how come? | 05:59 |
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| sdrik | hello | 06:09 |
| sdrik | I've done some testing of latest xen-3.0 and xen-source and want to report a success | 06:11 |
| sdrik | I have a 2.6.19-1-generic (i386) dom0 running with 2 gentoo 2.6.16.28 domu and 2 edgy 2.6.17-5-generic domu | 06:14 |
| zul | cool | 06:15 |
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| sdrik | I've done some patching on xen-source for various problems, what should I do with it ? | 06:18 |
| zul | sdrik: submit a bug report in launchpad and ill look at it | 06:19 |
| sdrik | zul: ok | 06:19 |
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| sdrik | zul: done | 06:32 |
| zul | thanks | 06:33 |
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