[12:01] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsprogs
[12:02] <kazuka> kkerwin do you know what filesystem vista uses?
[12:02] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: Something there ought to do the trick. Particularly the defrag and fsck
[12:02] <JoshJ> vista uses ntfs
[12:02] <DARKGuy> I thought it was WinFS
[12:02] <kkerwin> kazuka: No sir.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> kazuka: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:02] <TheVault> Vista = MAC OS X Wannabe
[12:02] <kazuka> JoshJ WINFS
[12:02] <JoshJ> winFS lol
[12:02] <kazuka> sorry gnomefreak
[12:02] <TheDebugger> WinFS... is dead.. ans WinFS is a layer on top of NTFS
[12:02] <kkerwin> DARKGuy: No. They had to scrap it's development.
[12:02] <orangefly> why is it when i connect to my vpn at work i lose internet....???....
[12:03] <DARKGuy> kkerwin: ah, no surprise heh xD
[12:03] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  good evining all!!!
[12:03] <JoshJ> winFS will come out at the same time as duke nukem forever
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <oFF-beAt>  The following tools are planned, but not yet implemented: ntfsck: fsck for NTFS
[12:03] <JoshJ> ...
[12:03] <oFF-beAt> that's what i need
[12:03] <kkerwin> tonyyarusso: Thanks. Sorry.
[12:03] <kazuka> what is avahi daemon
[12:03] <TheVault> Sorry
[12:03] <TheVault> Won't get off topic again
[12:03] <JoshJ> you know, the repeated op abuse from the admins in here is why i'm switching to debian the day etch comes out
[12:03] <oFF-beAt> kkerwin, i can fix this if i get a windows to check the file system.. only i dun have windows
[12:03] <kazuka> what kind of daemon is that why so many application use that kind of daemon
[12:03] <gnomefreak> JoshJ: take it up in #ubuntu-ops
[12:04] <oFF-beAt> now if i can recover the stuff on this drive i'll convert it to ext3
[12:04] <gosajk> does somebody know a lightweight torrent client (but with some options)?
[12:04] <Jeeves_Moss> can anyone reccomend a rock solid server set up for HTTP, mail, MySQL, and FTP?  I just found out that a "perk" of my new job gives me some rack space for free!!!
[12:04] <JoshJ> gnomefreak: or perhaps the ops shouldn't abuse their powers like this
[12:04] <JoshJ> so much for "free as in freedom"
[12:04] <gnomefreak> JoshJ: you were warned with everyone else
[12:04] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe find a friend with a Win Box?
[12:04] <wolfwalker> Quick question: Is linksys router linux-friendly?
[12:04] <wolfwalker> !linksys
[12:04] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, Ubuntu has a pretty good LAMP setup (although *cough* you might want to try postgre too :P)
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linksys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: You said that it was a usb key, right?
[12:04] <JosefK> !lamp | Jeeves_Moss
[12:05] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:05] <oFF-beAt> yeah
[12:05] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  I think I'll stick with MySQL.
[12:05] <mwalsh> How do you instlal plugins for totem?
[12:05] <orangefly> why is it when i connect to my vpn at work i lose internet....???....
[12:05] <oFF-beAt> usb hard disk
[12:05] <kazuu> Qualcuno mi pu aiutare sull'aggiornamento di ubuntu da 5.10 a 6.06 ???
[12:05] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  any recomedations for a good mail server that is easy to admin?
[12:05] <kkerwin> oFF-beAt: Ya. Just find someone else who has a Windows box. I think they're still pretty common ... ;-)
[12:05] <kkerwin> Outdated, yes. But still common. ;-)
[12:05] <wolfwalker> Quick question: Is linksys router linux-friendly?
[12:05] <TheVault> Alright, this question is not off topic(swear) -- Is there any websits out there that teaches you how to install things on Linux(besides the auto installers)
[12:05] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, sorry, never anything I've had to do, there's probably something about it on the Ubuntu wiki or forums though
[12:05] <mwalsh> ANybody know how do install plugins for totem?
[12:06] <mwalsh> wolfwalker: yes
[12:06] <nemik> hello, if you have dual-OS with linux and windows. are the MAC addresses different on the same machine?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> !compile | TheVault
[12:06] <ubotu> TheVault: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:06] <dabju> Amarok hangs while building the music library. What do I do?
[12:06] <gosajk> does somebody know a lightweight torrent client (but with some options)?
[12:06] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  ok, thanks.  as I said, I got this good news in the job offer that I recived today in the mail.  I just about flipped out.  forget about the other benifits.
[12:06] <TheVault> wow this bot is smart
[12:06] <JosefK> gosajk, rtorrent's fairly decent (but command line/curses)
[12:07] <DARKGuy> gosajk: I like ktorrent, since the command line ones don't resume torrents for me :(
[12:07] <Tm0rPh> hi, does anyone know if feisty does a disc check on first boot after install...
[12:07] <kkerwin> Taking off, all.
[12:07] <Zaggynl> utorrent + wine ;-)
[12:07] <mwalsh> Plugins for Totem? How do I get them?
[12:07] <kazuka> i use utorrent off of wine
[12:07] <TheVault> Wine, good program but don't know how to use it
[12:07] <DARKGuy> Zaggynl: How did you got it running? it throws error here
[12:07] <kazuka> its very good with suse
[12:07] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, hehe, good luck with it (feel free to mirror Ubuntu!)
[12:07] <Shaba1> Hello all
[12:07] <Zaggynl> TheVault, as simple as 'wine program.exe'
[12:07] <kazuka> wine and utorrent is ok
[12:07] <TheVault> what was the channel for Beryl
[12:07] <kazuka> #beryl
[12:07] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  I just might.  if I'm not paying for the bandwidth.  This compnay is a bandwidth broker, and also leases out rack space!!!
[12:07] <TheVault> Thanks
[12:07] <mwalsh> NObody knows how to get plugins for TOTEM?!
[12:08] <wolfwalker> |TheVault:| Easy to use wine. Right click on that .exe file and select open with. Then type in wine in the run bar.
[12:08] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, impressive :) congrats on the job too
[12:08] <kazuka> TheVault: for ubuntu it is #ubuntu-xgl
[12:08] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  thanks.  it's right DT Toronto!
[12:08] <TheVault> Thanks Kazuka
[12:08] <wolfwalker> |TheVault:| Yeah, or what Zaggynl said, that'll work too
[12:08] <mwalsh> totem is not playing my mpgs and avis!!! HOW DO I GET IT TO?!
[12:08] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  I guess I'll just VMWare it till I get it right!!!
[12:08] <Shaba1> let me ask a stupid question I have a laptop here with a 40GB HD running win xp home. I have 10.8 gb free. what is the minimal size of a linux partition should I make out of the free space just to get a feel of unbuntu. Taking into account that I have to HAVE win xp for work.
[12:09] <JosefK> !avi | mwalsh
[12:09] <ubotu> mwalsh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <kazuka> !dvd | mwalsh
[12:09] <ubotu> mwalsh: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:09] <DARKGuy> !mp3 | mwalsh
[12:09] <zOap> I've installed xli(image viewer) but somehow it only works with sudo rights.. how can I use it through nonadmin accounts too?
[12:09] <DARKGuy> lol oO
[12:09] <mwalsh> i dont want to know how to play dvds haha
[12:09] <mwalsh> but ill try the avi thing
[12:09] <kazuka> lol
[12:09] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, not a bad call, iirc there's a metapackage/task to get a LAMP server running, the vmware might be a good idea to try out different mail daemons though
[12:10] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, from what I've heard, they can be tricky to setup right
[12:10] <wolfwalker> |Shaba1:| download the ubuntu iso, burn it as an iso cd, then boot from the cd. It'll run without installing or disturbing Winblows
[12:10] <wolfwalker> I mean Windoze
[12:10] <wolfwalker> Windows*
[12:10] <DARKGuy> haha
[12:10] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer might be a good place to start
[12:10] <wolfwalker> I've been hanging out here too long
[12:10] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  from what I remember, Send Mail is a pain in the butt to run.  I'd like something simple to set up.  I'm still a N00b when it comes to shell, and I'll only have shell access to my box!  (and the best part is that I own my own U2 rackmount server)
[12:10] <mzanfardino> anyone know of an editor that will permit you to select a column of data (in a text file) much the way you'd select a row?
[12:11] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, if you have shell access, you could easily get an X server running and use it remotely (can be pretty neat/fast)
[12:11] <Zuph> Is there any utility in linux for laptops that lets you set CPU speed/voltage based on whether the laptop is plugged in or not?
[12:12] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  oh?  how?  All i ever saw was shell.  don't get me wrong, I LOVE shell, but somethings are kinda complicated to do in shell
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> Zuph: System > Preferences > Power Management I think.
[12:13] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, (for gnome) you need to enable XDMCP in GDM config, you can start an x client (in linux, or using cygwin/x in windows) and point it at your box
[12:13] <JosefK> *x server
[12:14] <Shaba1> I already have several of thos wolfwalker
[12:14] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  ahhh, well, I might just do that when I've got it installed.  Right now the trusty Prolient server is colecting dust in my parent's basement.
[12:14] <kazuka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJxrVT49XHY
[12:14] <Shaba1> live cd with ubuntu that is
[12:14] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  do you know the URL for the net install of Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Zuph> tonyyarusso: okay.  So is 00% actually 100%?
[12:14] <mzanfardino> Does anyone have any experiece with a text editor like gedit that will permit the selection of a column of data?
[12:14] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, not a clue, I'm sure somebody here does though :)
[12:15] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  does anyone know the URL for the net install of Ubuntu?
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Zuph: Not sure - what do you see?  (I'm on a different version, so am not quite sure)
[12:15] <JosefK> mzanfardino, you could use rectangle select mode in emacs
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> !netinstall | Jeeves_Moss
[12:15] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:15] <JosefK> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:16] <TheVault> Alright I got another question. What good Ubuntu program can I use to play MP3 files?
[12:16] <Jeeves_Moss> ubotu:  thanks bot!
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks bot! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Zuph> It lets me set different CPU speeds, ranging in 12% increments from 25% to 00%.  I'm assuming 00% is 100% based on the fact that when I set it to 00% my processor doesn't start running at 0mhz and there is no 100%
[12:16] <DARKGuy> TheVault: XMMS, Audacious, Amarok, BMP, etc.
[12:16] <mzanfardino> JosefK: hmmm... not much of an emac-er... but I'll give it a wril
[12:16] <TheVault> Thanks DARKGuy
[12:16] <DARKGuy> TheVault: welcome :)
[12:16] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  do you know if you can set the configuration to use 2 NICs?  so the load of multipule websites are directed to differn'
[12:16] <JosefK> mzanfardino, if you need to do something you could automate with that column, there's always awk ^^
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Zuph: lol.  Yeah, that's probably right then.
[12:17] <TheVault> ubotu: Email
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX: differen't NICs, but if one goes down, ALL trafic will fail over to the working NIC?
[12:17] <Zuph> tonyyarusso: Just making sure.  Just switched over from windows, and that wouldn't be the first thing that didn't make sense.
[12:17] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, sure, I've only done it with Solaris but i'm sure someone's written a Howto for Ubuntu somewhere
[12:17] <TheVault> Alright, my Ubuntu 6.10 just finished downloading, lemme burn it on a disc and lemme dual boot on my laptop for the first time(this is taking a big step for me because I test everything on my desktop first)...Wish me luck guys
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> Zuph: (You may want to file a bug on that, btw)
[12:18] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  I know I can have 2 NIC connections to 2 differen't switches, so I was thinking that I shoudl set something up so if I'm playing with the box, it will fail over.
[12:18] <Zuph> tonyyarusso: Where do I go for that?
[12:18] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, I guess the easiest thing would be to run both NICs on different subnets and tell apache to listen on both interfaces, but there has to be more advanced configs out there
[12:18] <mzanfardino> JosefK: not sure I know anything about awk either.  I was looking for a straight-forward gui-style editor if one exists...
[12:18] <dwid> i dont understand, i installed ubuntu and i restarted without the cd and it says theres no os on my h d
[12:18] <TheVault> wait a sec, the Ubuntu 6.10 i jus downloaded, is that a LIVE CD also?
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> !bugs | Zuph
[12:19] <ubotu> Zuph: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:19] <dwid> i dont understand, i installed ubuntu and i restarted without the cd and it says theres no os on my h d, my old hd had windows 2k and it failed, so i have a new 160 gig hd, what am i doing wrong?
[12:19] <wolfwalker> |dwid:| what option did you select for install? Whole disk? repartition and use the freed space? Manual partition and install?
[12:19] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, check which interface you're connected on before you bring one down though ;)
[12:19] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  before I forget, is there a SIMPLE howto that shows how to set up a CRON to backup to a tape?
[12:19] <dwid> i did whole disk
[12:19] <wolfwalker> |dwid:| and did you select the right hard drive?
[12:20] <dwid> yes
[12:20] <dwid> theres only one hd connected
[12:20] <TheVault> I just downloaded Ubuntu 6.10, is that also a Live CD when I go to burn it?
[12:20] <Shaba1> hello any ansers to that question
[12:20] <dwid> is there something i need to do to the hd so i can use ubuntu?
[12:20] <mzanfardino> dwid: grubs might also be attempting to mount the wrong drive... I ran into that problem when I build linux on a USB drive.  pointed to HD(2,0) and needed to point to (0,0).  Is grubs loading?
[12:20] <dwid> i mean its brand new
[12:20] <wolfwalker> |TheVault:| depends on the file. Is it an .iso file to be burnt to an iso cd?
[12:21] <dwid> nothing is loading without the cd
[12:21] <kelsin> TheVault: if it's the 6.10 desktop cd then it is a live cd also
[12:21] <dwid> it says disk failure
[12:21] <TheVault> no, its an ISO file thats going to be burned to a DVD since I have no blank CDs
[12:21] <dwid> i mean i changed teh boot process
[12:21] <mzanfardino> dwid: hmmm... well, on the surface it sound like a disk failue...  you say it's a new drive?
[12:21] <dwid> which one should should boot first in bios
[12:21] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Ftape-HOWTO.html might be a good place to start, you might have to google for something simpler though
[12:21] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  any ideas on that tape drive issue?
[12:21] <dwid> thers ls20 or something then hdd0 hdd1 hdd2 hdd3
[12:22] <Shaba1> let me ask a stupid question I have a laptop here with a 40GB HD running win xp home. I have 10.8 gb free. what is the minimal size of a linux partition should I make out of the free space just to get a feel of unbuntu. Taking into account that I have to HAVE win xp for work.
[12:22] <dwid> i put hdd0 as the first in the boot order
[12:22] <grout> whats a good app to convert avi to flash?
[12:22] <mzanfardino> Shaba1: if all you want to do is get the feel of Ubuntu, you should run it from the live cd.
[12:22] <Jx0r> I get the following error when trying to configure plib-1.8.4 ("configure: error: could not find working GL library"). can anyone help?
[12:22] <dwid> yeah its a new drive
[12:22] <wolfwalker> |Shaba1:| Just run off the live cd. It will run the Ubuntu OS without messing with installing
[12:22] <dwid> i just bought it
[12:22] <dwid> cuz with my other drives i get I/0 errors
[12:22] <TheVault> Can I use a DVD to burn Ubuntu 6.10 to and install it?
[12:23] <mzanfardino> dwid: is this an IDE or (S)ATA drive?
[12:23] <dwid> i mean i can save stuff to the hard drive right now using the live cd
[12:23] <dwid> eide
[12:23] <JosefK> Jeeves_Moss, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-backup/?ca=dgr-lnxw41Backup - that's on IBM, so it's good reference material
[12:23] <mzanfardino> dwid: and it's jumpered as master and strapped to IDE0?
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Shaba1: 3GB is enough to install comfortably.  5 would probably be wise.  Grabbing the whole 10.8 would be best ;)  What do you need XP for, btw?  (Many people think they need it but don't, while some genuinely do)
[12:23] <dwid> yeah its jumpered as master and strapped to ide0
[12:24] <dwid> wait how do i know if its strapped to id0
[12:24] <dwid> ide0
[12:24] <mzanfardino> dwid: hmmm... do you have access to a floppy disk (do you have a floppy drive)?
[12:24] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  thanks.  I stuffed a HP tape backup into the Prolient, but I was never able to get it to work.  I'd basiclly like it to write a back up, then onc a week, save a fresh backup to a directory, erese the tape, and then write the new weekly backup to the tape.
[12:24] <dwid> yes i have a floppy disk but its not connected right
[12:24] <Jx0r> I get the following error when trying to configure plib-1.8.4 ("configure: error: could not find working GL library"). can anyone help?
[12:24] <dwid> am i supposed to format it with a floppy first?
[12:24] <mzanfardino> dwid: check the cable and be sure you've plugged it into the IDE0 port (assuming you have the IDE channels on the MB, which I'm fairly certian you do.
[12:25] <shwag> i have no idea how to configure nagios because all the docs are written for the source version, and the debian nagios packages completely break away from the normal install.
[12:25] <PetFish> lo - Anyone use/play Unreal Tournament 2004 on Ubuntu, Linux Instal (Not Wine) with nvidia GFX? I am having problems with the game just freezing/locking my machine up.
[12:25] <dwid> how do you know its ide0
[12:25] <whatthedeuce> Hey.  I'm getting a new computer, but I don't know too much about hardware.  Would anyone mind looking over the computer I have in mind and making sure that it would work with Ubuntu?  Here's the link http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=E6E4DFD9-1018-119B-8BB760567E61A7CD-1277810
[12:25] <mzanfardino> dwid: no, but I was thinking from a troubleshooting stand point you could boot to a windows 98 boot disk and see if you can format the drive...
[12:25] <DARKGuy> PetFish: I play it, but I'm having no problems o.o;
[12:25] <kelsin> PetFish: same
[12:25] <Recon69>  Jx0r: I am having a similar problems , have you tried installing the dev-drivers for you vedio card
[12:25] <dwid> i mean on start up before bios it reconizes the 160 gb hard drive
[12:25] <kelsin> PetFish: (same as DARKGuy, no problems)
[12:25] <mzanfardino> dwid: it should be labeled IDE0 and IDE1 (usually).  Might be IDE1 and IDE2... but it doesn't matter so long as it's on the first channel...
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> whatthedeuce: You could also take a look around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport, among other places.
[12:25] <PetFish> :(
[12:25] <eltech> if i partiton my dirve hda1= windows and hda2= ubuntu .. will i be able to mount hda1 and access files on it?
[12:26] <DARKGuy> PetFish: you have correct drivers? using xgl/beryl/compiz? you sure the problem is with the game and not OS-wide?
[12:26] <mzanfardino> dwid: does BIOS see it on the first or second channel?
[12:26] <dwid> okay well the first slot its empty
[12:26] <eltech> does ubuntu come with the ntfs fat32 kernel support already?
[12:26] <dwid> i dont know if the bios sees it on the first or second
[12:26] <PetFish> DARKGuy - kelsin - Do you knwo where the log file is stored?
[12:26] <dwid> its connected to the middle one
[12:26] <mzanfardino> dwid: slot position is relative. You need to look at the printing on the circuit board
[12:26] <dwid> therse 3
[12:26] <dwid> the 3rd slot is for teh cd drive
[12:26] <dwid> the printing on the board?
[12:26] <mzanfardino> dwid: hmm... ok, look on the circuit board and see if you can read a name next to the slot
[12:26] <mzanfardino> dwid: yes
[12:27] <PetFish> DARKGuy - I have Beryl working fine not crashing at all - CS:S on Wine works great
[12:27] <Recon69> eltech: depends on what type of file system you use, NTFS you can only read FAT32 you can read and right to
[12:27] <mzanfardino> dwid: it might help to know what motherboard you are working with
[12:27] <shwag> how come when I do  /etc/init.d/nagios2 restart     i get   Error: Could not read host and service status information!
[12:27] <DARKGuy> PetFish: Did you try disabling beryl and running UT?
[12:27] <eltech> we'ere talking ntfs
[12:27] <PetFish> Yes
[12:28] <dwid> okay well its  connected to ide1
[12:28] <dwid> there is no one labled ide0
[12:28] <DARKGuy> PetFish: what about running it "bare" ? like, "xinit /home/user/ut2004/ut2004" ?
[12:28] <Recon69> eltech: well you can see ntfs, but writing to it not safe
[12:28] <Jeeves_Moss> JoseFX:  wow, thanks guy, this is an amazing artical!!
[12:28] <SurfnKid> !upgrade
[12:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:28] <Shaba1> Why do peopel on here insist on not answer the question asked and giving answers that are not even about the queston asked
[12:28] <Veljko> Hi! Ubuntu 6.10. Just installed gsambad, and when I try to start it it says " You must be root to run run gsambad". I installed it from repositories. What can I do to make it work?
[12:28] <eltech> Recon69 all i want to do is mount the drive to access some files, move them over and unmount the drive not really need it again
[12:28] <dwid> the hd is connected to ide1 and the cd rom is connected to ide2
[12:28] <mzanfardino> dwid: are the other two labeled IDE2 and IDE3 respectively?
[12:28] <dwid> and the first slot is not labeld
[12:28] <dwid> and empty
[12:28] <bubbles2002> hello - first off a big THANKS - because of you guys - I got my ubuntu dual boot working!! but i have 2 quick questions.
[12:28] <eltech> Recon69 is that possible out the box with ubuntu?
[12:28] <shwag> it looks like /etc/init.d/nagios restart  doesnt actually bring the daemon back up even though it reports back [ ok ] 
[12:28] <DARKGuy> Shaba1: Because they try to guess what's the problem
[12:29] <PetFish> DARKGuy -  Not tried that - Will see what happens.
[12:29] <dwid> the first slot is not named
[12:29] <dwid> i assume thats for the floppy?
[12:29] <Shaba1> when I give them the exact paramerters of the problem
[12:29] <bubbles2002> 1 - is it possible to change the order on the boot up screen - where XP is the default not Ubuntu?
[12:29] <dwid> but the floppy doesnt fit into it
[12:29] <DARKGuy> PetFish: Alright, good luck. Do it with gdm/X stopped, so xinit works.
[12:29] <Shaba1> I try to be exact as I can.
[12:29] <mzanfardino> dwid: that is odd...
[12:29] <mzanfardino> dwid: what motherboard is it?
[12:29] <Shaba1> Like I asked about reccomended disk space
[12:29] <Shaba1> and someone keeps saying use a livecd
[12:29] <dwid> let me look and see if i can see what motherboard it is
[12:29] <DARKGuy> PetFish: If it crashes too, then running programs are out of the problem, gotta check drivers and other stuff
[12:29] <Shaba1> Well that is not what I asked
[12:29] <Shaba1> I got a livecd and I use it
[12:29] <ahaller> where can i get some cool ubuntu icons? "ubuntu powered" or so?
[12:29] <mzanfardino> dwid: ok
[12:29] <Recon69> eltech: not sure if you need to setup the mount in fstab but ubuntu can read ntfs out of the box
[12:30] <Shaba1> I wanted to know about reccomended disk space
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> Shaba1: I gave you some numbers.
[12:30] <dwid> not sure what motherboard it is
[12:30] <dwid> alls i see is a sn
[12:30] <mzanfardino> Shaba1: someone answered you already.3GB min. 5GB rec. all 10GB great.
[12:30] <Shaba1> ok tonyyarusso lt me scroll back
[12:30] <Shaba1> and you too mzanfardino
[12:30] <eltech> Recon69 thats fine.. i can mount from command line also
[12:30] <Shaba1> I did not see that
[12:30] <eltech> if not.. i can setup the fstab
[12:30] <Shaba1> I keep getting discoed
[12:30] <bubbles2002> 1 - is it possible to change the order on the boot up screen - where XP is the default not Ubuntu
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> (Did I mispell the name?)
[12:31] <mzanfardino> bubbles2002: /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[12:31] <dwid> ak32d67e23905832
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> bubbles2002: Yes.  You'll need to edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst, with root priviledges.  See !sudo
[12:31] <bubbles2002> ok - do it in the linux shell.
[12:31] <bubbles2002> ?
[12:31] <mzanfardino> bubbles2002: yep, with sudo
[12:31] <bubbles2002> thanks.
[12:31] <bubbles2002> and 2
[12:31] <mzanfardino> bubbles2002: I use nano personally.
[12:32] <jackson3452> how do I reinstall GRUB from the edgy liveCD?
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> bubbles2002: If you want.  You can also do it graphically, with gksu and gedit.
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> !grub | jackson3452
[12:32] <ubotu> jackson3452: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:32] <bubbles2002> i have the WMP54G card.. i guess I have to d/l the linux driver to get it to work correct??
[12:32] <mzanfardino> bubbles2002: wireless adapter, yes?
[12:32] <bubbles2002> yes.
[12:32] <bubbles2002> and thanks.. i just downloaded it - do i just click it when i am in the ubuntu enviroment?
[12:33] <mzanfardino> dwid: you get the motherboard id yet?
[12:33] <eltech> Recon69 thanks..
[12:33] <vittorio> what is the clean way to get yacc for ubuntu 6.06?
[12:33] <bubbles2002> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <dwid> alls i can see is the serial number
[12:33] <dwid> i dont know if that helps
[12:33] <Seveas> vittorio, apt-get install yacc
[12:33] <dwid> eerything else is to small to see
[12:33] <bubbles2002> im gonna try em both - wish me luck! and thank you !!
[12:34] <Shaba1> tonyyarusso: your reccomendation must have gotten lost when I discoed
[12:34] <vittorio> Seveas, really, when searching via synaptic it doesnt find yacc
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> Shaba1: ah, okay
[12:34] <Shaba1> thanks
[12:34] <Shaba1> you to mzanfardino
[12:34] <Seveas> !yacc
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yacc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <mzanfardino> Shaba1: GL. sing the praises of Ubuntu once you get her running... :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its not in repos with that name
[12:34] <Seveas> vittorio, err apt-get install bison :)
[12:35] <Seveas> !bison
[12:35] <ubotu> bison: A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[12:35] <Shaba1> Oh I liek it
[12:35] <shwag> how do I reinstall all the configuration files for nagios2 ?
[12:35] <Shaba1> just that I have to have windows for work
[12:35] <mzanfardino> dwid: nope, serial number probably no good.  It almost sounds as if the master boot record is not being written to the hard drive during the install process...
[12:35] <[Hyarion] > hi, can someone recommend a good system/network monitor for Ubuntu?
[12:35] <mzanfardino> dwid: I take it you are installing from the live CD, yes?
[12:35] <Shaba1> I am impress just by the ubuntu wiki
[12:35] <dwid> yes
[12:35] <Shaba1> clear writing on that
[12:35] <Shaba1> which is rare in the IT world
[12:35] <dwid> i tried installing the newest version and it kept freezing so i instaleld the previous version
[12:35] <caminomaster> hi
[12:35] <vittorio> Seveas, bison is compatible afaik. but a commercial program needs yacc
[12:36] <Recon69> I got a problem, I need to have the nvidia dev headers for OpenGL available for a program i am using, but when I use synaptic to install them it conflicts with the manually installed drivers I have and gnome stops working. any suggestions?
[12:36] <caminomaster> can amarok use xmms plugins'
[12:36] <dwid> so what do you suggest i do?
[12:36] <mzanfardino> dwid: let me check something.
[12:36] <Seveas> vittorio, afaik the original yacc really isn't available (bison contains a command named yacc, isn't that good enough?)
[12:36] <heanol> anyone know how to disable cleartype/antaliasing/smooth fonts in firefox?
[12:37] <heanol> firefox seems to differ from gnome
[12:37] <FunnyMan3595> Is there any way to disable horizontal scroll from cycling through windows while over the task bar?  I'm on a laptop, and I have to go to the bottom of the touchpad to get down there, and the probability of accidentally triggering a horizontal scroll is high.
[12:37] <vittorio> Seveas, ah when theres a command  named yacc that probably is good enough. thanks
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Recon69: use the nvidia.run file to remove nvidia before installing the nvidia-glx package
[12:37] <FunnyMan3595> I honestly don't care if vertical scroll cycling gets disabled or not, either way would be fine.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Recon69: instructions are on nvidia's site
[12:38] <Recon69> gnomefreak: thx, I will give that a go :)
[12:39] <FunnyMan3595> s/question\*/question/.-1
[12:39] <mzanfardino> dwid: I take it you can open a terminal prompt
[12:39] <packagedeliverer> hey guys, where can I see logs again when a telnet localhost 143 wont login?
[12:39] <mzanfardino> use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and past the results of a mount and 'df -h'
[12:40] <dwid> yes i can open a terminal prompt
[12:40] <[Hyarion] > hi, can anyone recommend a system/network monitoring tool?
[12:40] <relain> i set up a crontab for root to do some backup stuff and it doesn't get done, should i be using anacron?
[12:40] <relain> :hyarion conky is quite nice
[12:40] <keithhhhh> is there anyway to convert .eps files to something inkscape can handle?
[12:40] <[Hyarion] > relain, thanks, I'll check it out.
[12:40] <mzanfardino> [Hyarion] : wire shark
[12:41] <relain> oh hang on, yeah if you want to actually follow packets then wireshark
[12:41] <cac_> hi room
[12:41] <cac_> roomate
[12:41] <PriceChild> Hi cac_
[12:41] <[Hyarion] > mzanfardino, ya I've checked that one out, I think I'm looking for more along the lines of something that I can just have on my desktop with a little less information
[12:42] <keithhhhh> is there anyway to convert illustrator .eps files to something inkscape can handle?
[12:42] <dwid> mzanfardino what do i do at the terminal prompt
[12:43] <mwalsh> anyone want to help me mount my internal ntfs?
[12:43] <relain> hyarion: top!
[12:43] <relain> hyarion: or the gnome system monitor bars
[12:43] <frogzoo> !ntfs | mwalsh
[12:43] <ubotu> mwalsh: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:43] <mzanfardino> hmmm... conky looks pretty cool.
[12:43] <FunnyMan3595> A scroll on the task bar changes which window is active.  Due to the way my touchpad works, I'm likely to do a horizontal scroll there by accident, which is infuriating.  Is there any way to disable that, without disabling horizontal scroll in general?  I don't care if vertical scrolling continues to do switch the active window.
[12:44] <relain> Funnyman: look for the synaptics controller for gnome
[12:44] <whatthedeuce> Which version of Ubuntu would I install for this processor? http://www.ncix.com/products/productdetail2.php?noheader=1&sku=14870
[12:44] <mzanfardino> dwid: at the terminal prompt type 'mount' without the single quotes and use the mouse to highlight and copy the results into the web page you'll find at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:44] <relain> Funnyman: i think it's called that, i have it on my laptop, it lets you control what your touchpad actually does
[12:44] <xst> I own a monitor that can rotate 90 degrees. How can I rotate screen when I rotate the monitor (from portrait to landscape)?
[12:44] <relain> xst: use xrandr
[12:44] <FunnyMan3595> relain: You mean the touchpad control program?  I know that can disable horizontal scrolling in general, but I only want to change it for that one purpose.
[12:44] <mzanfardino> dwid: then type 'df -h' and paste the rsults as well, then paste the link you create
[12:44] <shwag> how do I reinstall all the configuration files that came with a package ?
[12:45] <FunnyMan3595> relain: The simple answer would be if there was a way to disable the taskbar from reacting to scrolls at all.
[12:45] <relain> Funnyman: ahh sorry i only know about that one thing
[12:45] <xst> relain: How?
[12:45] <FunnyMan3595> relain: Thanks, though.
[12:46] <frogzoo> FunnyMan3595: I have a link, half a moment
[12:46] <relain> xst: xrandr --help is a good start, i think you want xrandr -o right , depending on how you rotate the monitor
[12:46] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: Really?  Awesome.
[12:46] <Recon69> ok, how do i stop x so i can un-install the manual nvidia drivers, and if i un-install the drivers how do i get synaptic to install the nvidia-dev package ?
[12:46] <relain> xst: yeah that works for me
[12:47] <kitche> Recon69: edit /etc/X11/ so your driver says nv then save it and restart X
[12:47] <kitche> Recon69: /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is
[12:47] <xst> relain: It just returns an error: xrandr -o right
[12:47] <xst> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[12:47] <Crema10> hello, is there a simple idiot-friendly guide to install LAMP under Ubuntu Edgy?
[12:47] <relain> xst: i'm afraid i don't think there's a way to get that nice autorotate thing like windows has, or i've never seen it
[12:48] <relain> xst: you are running it from the terminal? what error do you get?
[12:48] <relain> xst: sorry i missed that
[12:48] <relbs> is there a recommended method for doing automated installations?
[12:48] <FunnyMan3595> !Lamp > Crema10
[12:48] <topgun553> hello
[12:48] <relain> xst: i think there's something about that in xorg.conf
[12:48] <kitche> relbs: might want to look up kickstart of ubuntu there might be a guide for what you want for ubuntu
[12:49] <relain> xst: did you do like: xrandr -o right
[12:49] <topgun553> this is going to sound stupid if i am but did i finally get in a chat
[12:49] <topgun553> its my first time using xchat
[12:49] <dwid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2693/
[12:49] <xst> relain: Yes, exactly
[12:49] <topgun553> w00t people talking!
[12:49] <topgun553> hello
[12:49] <Jkerr> hi
[12:49] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: *poke*  Still there?
[12:50] <rikstah> hi there, I've changed my hostname on a server at the datacentre, and forgot to add an entry to the hosts file, which in turn broke the use of sudo....is there any way to recover remotely?
[12:50] <topgun553> so I was wondering if the standardizing of linux was going to affect ubuntu
[12:50] <JosefK> is there any way to tell the update-manager to ignore a package (ie. to honour its "hold" state?)
[12:50] <relain> xst: sorry, i had the problem before too, it just wouldn't do it, perhaps it's something to do with the drivers / kernel mod, i'm going through my Xorg to see if i put anything in about it
[12:50] <HymnToLife> rikstah, no, unless you created a _real_ root account
[12:50] <frogzoo> FunnyMan3595: maybe not what you're looking for: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/page/7/
[12:50] <relain> xst: oh yeah here we go
[12:50] <zukunft[LEC-BR] > hi... i am havin a problem with sound.. it works but when i close the programa and try to open it again.. i get no sound....what can be ?
[12:50] <kitche> topgun553: umm ubuntu is standardized already *points to LSB*
[12:50] <Crema10> thanks FunnyMan3595
[12:50] <eltech> any cool docs on the ubuntu site for dual booting
[12:50] <rikstah> HymnToLife, hmmph yeah i don't unfortunately
[12:51] <eltech> xp/ubuntu
[12:51] <HymnToLife> rikstah, then you're toast, I'm afraid
[12:51] <FunnyMan3595> Crema10: No problem.
[12:51] <topgun553> kitche, I was just reading on digg that the linux community is planning to unite in february
[12:51] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: No, not really.
[12:51] <rikstah> HymnToLife, ok cool, thanks...just wanted to make sure...to save an unnecessary trip
[12:52] <dwid> mzanfardino : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2693/
[12:52] <topgun553> The Open Source Development Labs will combine with the Free Standards Group
[12:52] <topgun553> Does that affect ubuntu?
[12:52] <packagedeliverer> hey ehm, what simple to install gui was there for a lamp server?
[12:52] <packagedeliverer> something with x ...
[12:52] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: I could get around the problem by moving horizontal scrolling to the top edge, but I'd rather not do that.
[12:52] <Jkerr> topgun553: This standardisation is interesting, despite Ubuntu being a fork of Debian, you can't install a program like koho on it
[12:52] <helloyo> my 4GB root directory is full, how can i free up some space?
[12:52] <packagedeliverer> anyone? =)
[12:53] <relain> helloyo: you could try using the disk usage analyser
[12:53] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: Similarly by moving the taskbar to the left edge (I think I can do that at least, haven't tried)
[12:53] <topgun553> So it does affect ubuntu
[12:53] <mzanfardino> dwid: and you say you can write to the harddrive?
[12:53] <relain> helloyo: should be in something like the main ubuntumenu
[12:53] <HymnToLife> packagedeliverer, do you want to install just X or a whole desktop environment ?
[12:53] <topgun553> So would fedora and ubuntu ever work together?
[12:53] <topgun553> to create oen version?
[12:53] <dwid> yes i can write to the hard drive
[12:53] <topgun553> oen = one
[12:53] <packagedeliverer> well, there was a basic install with a desktop, menu, task bar and that's about it
[12:53] <dwid> i can save stuff like movies but its gone when i reboot
[12:53] <HymnToLife> topgun553, maybe, you never know what tomorow will be made of, as we say here
[12:54] <mzanfardino> dwid: what device are you writting to?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> very unlikely though
[12:54] <dwid> im assuming the 160gb hd
[12:54] <kitche> topgun553: why would there be one Linux since Linux is just a kernel everything else in GNU
[12:54] <topgun553> hell if i know kitche
[12:54] <TheDebugger> I'd love to see HURD kill linux :/
[12:54] <topgun553> I can't even get my printer to work
[12:54] <topgun553> I am going back to windows
[12:54] <dwid> things save under unbuntu on places
[12:55] <topgun553> I am getting sick of ubuntu
[12:55] <topgun553> there are things i love
[12:55] <mzanfardino> dwid: no, I mean, how are you writting to it?  That is to say, where in Windows you might have a C: drive, in linux you have a device like /dev/hda0....
[12:55] <Jkerr> topgun553 Don't do it
[12:55] <topgun553> but I miss windows ease
[12:55] <dwid> how do i find that out
[12:55] <chrismhampson> topgun553, you are crazy!
[12:55] <kitche> TheDebugger: hmm have you even looked at the install instructions for Hurd? anyways that's off topic
[12:55] <topgun553> and I need my palm/printer/dual monitor/maple/mathematica to work
[12:55] <topgun553> if i could get those to work I would stay
[12:55] <chrismhampson> topgun553, ubuntu is far easier to use than windows
[12:55] <someothernick> lol
[12:55] <HymnToLife> I hate it when there's a bunch of GNU people acting like five-year-olds...
[12:55] <mzanfardino> topgun553: just takes some patients...
[12:55] <FunnyMan3595> topgun553: I can sympathize, but for me at least, I've hit my saturation point with Windows.  Linux people *fix* their security holes, on a timescale of hours or days, not weeks or months.
[12:55] <topgun553> well i have been using for about a month
[12:56] <relain> topgun553 i was thinking about that, but then i thought, oh yeah how many kernel panics / kernel crashes have there ever been? none, best uptime for my work machine was 40 days, then i had to reboot
[12:56] <killown> when kde 4 to be released?
[12:56] <relain> now i mean, that yeah, good
[12:56] <Viglen> hey
[12:56] <kitche> topgun553: what make is your printer?
[12:56] <Jkerr> topgun : I have been using Linux for 5 years now, it is easy
[12:56] <zukunft[LEC-BR] > hi... i am havin a problem with sound.. it works but when i close the programaand try to open it again.. i get no sound....any idea?
[12:56] <kitche> killown: when kde devs decide to
[12:56] <topgun553> canon mp 130
[12:56] <helloyo> i still can't clear any space on my / partition, anything i can delete there?
[12:56] <Viglen> anyone
[12:56] <killown> kitche, but I can install kde4 beta?
[12:56] <Viglen> need some help
[12:56] <killown> kde4 have very bugs?
[12:56] <kitche> killown: yes if you compile it
[12:56] <Viglen> reinstalling grub
[12:56] <FunnyMan3595> !ask | Viglen
[12:56] <ubotu> Viglen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:56] <topgun553> relain i had a similar uptime with windows
[12:56] <kitche> topgun553: is that a lexmark?
[12:56] <topgun553> and my ubuntu crashes about the same
[12:56] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: What's the problem?
[12:56] <HymnToLife> kitche, there are KDE4 packages available for Kubuntru
[12:56] <spyman> ola
[12:57] <dwid> how do i find out what its writing to
[12:57] <HymnToLife> Kubuntu*
[12:57] <topgun553> only differene I notice is spyware
[12:57] <topgun553> none on ubuntu
[12:57] <spyman> alguem pode me ajudar com o AMSN:::
[12:57] <Jkerr> topgun553: canon has been a problem, but other printers work great
[12:57] <mzanfardino> topgun553: this is a really good resource for finding the answers you seek. you may be running into problems that you can't solve easily with linux, but theose are usually thinks like wireless (which you can solve, but not as easily in my opinion), some OS specific apps (but there there is wine!) ... etc.
[12:57] <zukunft[LEC-BR] > nobodu wants to help me.. :P
[12:57] <frogzoo> FunnyMan3595: what about maybe: HorizTwoFingerScroll ?
[12:57] <Viglen> i had ubuntu installed on a harddrive
[12:57] <Viglen> needed to install windows
[12:57] <Viglen> so when i  did
[12:58] <topgun553> kitche, its a canon mp130 not lexmark
[12:58] <Viglen> it removed grubn
[12:58] <Viglen> now i have windows and ubuntu
[12:58] <FunnyMan3595> frogzoo: A possibility, but I'm happy with the scrolling the way it is, it's just this one instance that causes problems.
[12:58] <mzanfardino> dwid: looking at your mount list, it doesn't appear that there is a mapping to your harddrive...
[12:58] <Viglen> but i can only access windows
[12:58] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Okay, try this:
[12:58] <Viglen> how do i fix that
[12:58] <topgun553> would upgrading help me?
[12:58] <topgun553> I am running 6.06
[12:58] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[12:58] <kitche> topgun553: ok I jsut thought that canon was lexmark, but have you looked at linuxprinting.org see if they have a way to get it working
[12:58] <Viglen> im not in linux now
[12:58] <Viglen> im using windows
[12:58] <Viglen> linux is installed
[12:58] <dwid> then how am i able to save files?
[12:59] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Got a boot CD?
[12:59] <Viglen> but no way to get to it
[12:59] <Viglen> yeah
[12:59] <Viglen> a live cd
[12:59] <Viglen> and the install one
[12:59] <topgun553> kitche,  looking at it now
[12:59] <helloyo> i can't "unfill" my root partition, any help?
[12:59] <mzanfardino> dwid: do a 'lspci | grep IDE' and paste the results as you did before
[12:59] <dwid> i dont understand how i can save files if thers no mappin to my hd
[01:00] <Aggrav8d> hello.  assuming i have access to root, how can i reset a user's samba password?  I ran smbpasswd -a [user] , typed the password, and then reloaded samba but it doesn't appear to work.
[01:00] <mzanfardino> topgun553: sorry, was that question directed to me?
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Try putting that command in from a terminal on the livecd.  I think it worked for the last person I suggested it for.
[01:00] <dwid> type them both at the same time?
[01:00] <topgun553> sure mzanfardino
[01:00] <Viglen> well
[01:00] <Viglen> after i do
[01:00] <topgun553> kitche, it doesn't have my printer
[01:00] <diskus> Aggrav8d: -a adds user, try without -a
[01:00] <Viglen> when grub loads
[01:00] <Viglen> i'll have windows and linux
[01:00] <Viglen> ?
[01:00] <Aggrav8d> manual says it ignores -a if the user exists.
[01:01] <diskus> Aggrav8d: don't know then
[01:01] <topgun553> kitche, they have PIXMA MP110 and the MP130
[01:01] <Aggrav8d> hrm.
[01:01] <mzanfardino> topgun553: what specifically can I help you with?  Mind you, I'm still cutting my teeth.. but I've been working with windows since wfw3.11 so if I can make the switch, you can.. :)
[01:01] <mzanfardino> dwid: yes, the command should read: lspci | grep IDE
[01:01] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Should, but if not, it's fixable.  We can configure grub, we can't configure the windows loader.
[01:01] <Viglen> okay
[01:01] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: It'll definitely have linux, if it works at all.
[01:01] <Viglen> i'll brb
[01:01] <charlie> hi there... bit of  a linux n00b here, i am having a few problems getting my dell usb 1450 wireless adapter to work. i am using ndiswrapper and using -l it tells me "driver present, hardware present"... for some reason i cannot connect to my router, even with WEP turned off
[01:01] <Viglen> if it doesnt have windows
[01:01] <Viglen> what do i do
[01:02] <HymnToLife> charlie, does the interface show up in iwconfig ?
[01:02] <dwid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2694/
[01:02] <topgun553> mzanfardino, any of printer/dual monitor/palm/maple/mathematica to work
[01:03] <charlie> can i post you what i get when i enter iwconfig eth2 please? sorry don't know what u mean by interface
[01:03] <mzanfardino> dwid: one sec.
[01:03] <topgun553> hahahaha The closest one I could find to my printer the Canon mp150 it says is a paperweight
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Just ask someone to give you the windows part of their grub file, all you'll have to change is the device code to match where your windows partition is.
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: I'd stay to help, but I have class I need to get to.  :/
[01:03] <Viglen> yeah sure
[01:04] <Viglen> its kay
[01:04] <FunnyMan3595> Viglen: Good luck!
[01:04] <Viglen> :)
[01:04] <Viglen> thanks
[01:04] <mzanfardino> topgun553: I can say that I have the following two configurations I'm working with at present: desktop Ubuntu 6.10 with network Brother printer and single monitor.  Desktop Ubuntu 6.10 with networked HP printer with NVidia FX5600 multihead video card and two monitors... I can probably help with the video...
[01:04] <HymnToLife> charlie, sure, use the pastebin
[01:04] <HymnToLife> !pastebin | charlie
[01:04] <ubotu> charlie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:05] <rellik> I am setting up twinview and have a few questions..  first, how do I switch my primary monitor, so apps pop up on my LCD instead of my CRT? Second, how do I switch orientation of the monitors? right now the right part of the desktop is on the left monitor
[01:05] <charlie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2696/
[01:06] <mzanfardino> dwid: lspcd shows that you have an IDE controller.. I think I might be out of my depth here.  From the first paste with the mount and df -h commands, I'd say Ubuntu isn't mounting your local hard drive for some reason.  I'd trouble shoot by trying to boot to a known source like a DOS disk (old dos hacker here) and see if I could access it that way, then work my way forward...
[01:07] <NET||abuse> hi all, just had a drive issue,, my desktop started freezing up,, when i went to shutdown, a bad block was reported.. now i went into safe mode ran "fsck -cfv /dev/hda7" (hda7 is my / partition") and it detected 2 bad blocks.. now ...
[01:07] <mzanfardino> rellik: I found http://www.ap-accessgrid.org/HOWTO/linuxAGnode/html/install_software.html to be indispensible when I was configuring my X for multiple monitors...
[01:07] <Pooky> I was just wanting to inquire if anyone has installed ubuntu on a macbook pro, and what their impressions were as far as timesinks in getting things "running right" and that sort of stuff.
[01:07] <NET||abuse> did that actually mark the blocks and repair? did it loose data, corrupt a file, and is that the last step i should take in this situation?
[01:07] <fg> hi, i have a trouble: I want to copy files from my system which should be reinstalled (long story i dont explain why), so i mounted my old partition and i now using live cd, i have two cd-rom, but when i want to burn files more than 50 MB I see |"The selected location does not have enough space to store the disc image (1225 MiB needed). I try burn on dvd :) ? PLease help
[01:09] <topgun553> Anyone know how to get a Canon PIXMA MP130 to work in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[01:09] <rellik> mzanfardino, that guide uses XFree..  is that the same as the Xorg stuff that ships with ubuntu?
[01:10] <charlie_> i was disconnected... HYMNTOLIFE did i post the right pastebin url?
[01:10] <dwi1> i got disconnected
[01:10] <dwi1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2694/
[01:10] <mzanfardino> rellik: no, sorry, bad link. one sec.
[01:10] <HymnToLife> charlie_, I didn't get it, could you pase it again ?
[01:10] <charlie_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2696/
[01:11] <dwi1> ?
[01:11] <packagedeliverer> could I ask anyone an imap question?
[01:12] <kitche> rellik: Xfree86 is older then Xorg and sorta a project that is dieing to an extent
[01:12] <mauriciosouza> channel
[01:12] <chiarato> I upgraded my fire fox browser ubuntu 6.10 now the web pages are now centered and the writing stuff is real small can someone help?
[01:12] <rellik> kitche, yeah, that's kinda what I thought..  I come in and out of linux, but I don't remember seeing XFree86 for a long time
[01:13] <chiarato> *I upgraded my fire fox browser ubuntu 6.10 now the web pages are not centered and the writing stuff is real small can someone help?
[01:13] <kitche> rellik: think last update for Xfree86 was in 2006 March or so
[01:13] <dwi1> mzanfardino did you look at my paste
[01:13] <mzanfardino> rellik: sorry, I don't have the shortcut on this machine.  there is a document that details xorg.conf and gives you all the various options.  The apendix (I think it was Apendix J) had specifics concerning twinview... very useful
[01:13] <dwi1> i got disconnected after you said one sec
[01:14] <rellik> mzanfardino, thanks, I will look it up
[01:14] <mzanfardino> dwi1: yes. unfortunately I think I may be out of my depth.  From the looks of it, Ubuntu is not mounting your local hd
[01:14] <dwi1> but theres no reason for that
[01:14] <Aggrav8d> diskus - the problem wasn't my password resetting, the problem was that i was already logged in with another password from the machine i was testing on.
[01:14] <Aggrav8d> but thanks anyhow :)
[01:15] <mzanfardino> dwi1: my suggestion is to maybe go back to square one: verify through whatever means you are comfortable with that your drive will indeed mount and can be formatted/written to.  I'd personally use a bootable dos floppy and see if I could see the drive with fdisk
[01:15] <zylche> ohh crap, ohh crap, ohh crap...
[01:15] <mzanfardino> rellik: what video driver, btw?
[01:15] <zylche> Anyone know any good data-retrieval tools?
[01:15] <zylche> :E
[01:15] <zylche> Preferably full-drive ones ...
[01:15] <dwi1> where do i get one of those from
[01:15] <kitche> zylche: yes look at system rescue cd
[01:15] <charlie_> hymntolife, did that link work?
[01:16] <packagedeliverer> would anyone please listen to my imap question? got exams tomorrow -__-
[01:16] <mzanfardino> dwi1: there are sites on the web with boot disk images you can down load.  They are windows apps, though, so you'd have to boot to a windows OS first....
[01:16] <mzanfardino> dwi1: let me think about this a little bit more
[01:16] <rellik> mzanfardino, GeForce 5600
[01:16] <mzanfardino> dwi1: there has to be a way to probe for your hard drive.
[01:16] <dwi1> okay
[01:17] <eugman> "Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 43: incomplete entry ignored." Help?
[01:17] <mzanfardino> rellik: that's what I have.  Be sure to install the nvidia driver (dump the nv) if you want to use openGL.
[01:17] <NET||abuse> hi all, i've just had a disk error , run fsck -fcv on it, and i was wondering what to do next, if anything,
[01:17] <chiarato> how do I change the settings on firefox so the pages are full screen cause' they're only using 1/2 of the screen
[01:17] <mzanfardino> rellik: I forewent twinview though, as I wanted to be able to load an openGL app (WoW) on one desktop while still being able to use the other for apps, like browsing...
[01:18] <poppy> bonsoir
[01:19] <rellik> mzanfardino, you went with xinerama?
[01:19] <dwi1> theres no command to type to see everything connected
[01:19] <NET||abuse> fsck said it found 2 bad blocks, so has that finished dealing with the issue? will i have to get a new copy of a file that may have been corrupt?
[01:19] <poppy> french ?
[01:19] <kitche> chiarato: not sure if you want this but press f11 for fullscreen
[01:19] <bruenig> !fr
[01:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:19] <DARKGuy> !ask | packagedeliverer
[01:19] <ubotu> packagedeliverer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:19] <Gartral> ohh great gurus of linux knowledge... please bestow upon me the knowledge oh how to get a normal V.92 modem to work
[01:20] <packagedeliverer> I already did DARKGuy  :(
[01:20] <kitche> Gartral: depends is the modem a winmodem or another modem?
[01:20] <HymnToLife> charlie_, yep, now configure your ESSID and WEP key
[01:20] <Gartral> a generic internal modem...
[01:20] <rellik> mzanfardino, I'm not sure I want to go with twinview anyway because it doesn't look like it's gonna let me have different res'es on my monitors
[01:21] <jatt> uh?
[01:21] <DARKGuy> oh, sorry
[01:21] <Gartral> end rant?
[01:21] <zOap> I have a program that launches itself with root rights. cant be ran with user right. how do I get it to run with user rights?
[01:21] <Flannel> !sudo | zOap
[01:21] <ubotu> zOap: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:21] <zOap> yeyeye
[01:21] <HymnToLife> bruenig, trnnick indentation off :p
[01:21] <HymnToLife> turn*
[01:21] <zOap> I'm not wanting sudo
[01:21] <dwi1> am i still connected
[01:22] <Gartral> end rant?
[01:22] <bruenig> but then it goes over into the text which is worst
[01:22] <Gartral> a generic internal modem...
[01:22] <topgun553> Alright so I found an old driver that was supose to work the pixma ip1500 and found a place download it, and then I installed it sucesfully the package thing said, but I don't see it as possible drivers when I try to install my printer?
[01:22] <topgun553> Any suggestions?
[01:22] <kitche> zOap: if it runs with root rights then it must be ran with root rights
[01:22] <zOap> Flannel, I want it to run as another user right, not root, not sudo
[01:22] <dwi1> lag 17 seconds
[01:22] <zOap> kitche, no way to get it to run as anything else?
[01:22] <kitche> zOap: you can chmod the binary if you really want to
[01:22] <charlie_> hymn to life - how do i do that? charlie@Charlie:~$ iwconfig eth2  essid -slagbreath-
[01:22] <charlie_> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[01:22] <charlie_>     SET failed on device eth2 ; Operation not permitted.
[01:22] <Flannel> zOap: sudo isn't a user, and you can use sudo to run as different users, see the -u flag
[01:22] <kitche> zOap: chown I mean
[01:22] <chiarato> kitche: no but thanks the page I visit is off center that's what I mean!
[01:23] <zOap> kitche, I tried chown, but no luck..
[01:23] <abasinisvacant> hello
[01:23] <Flannel> zOap: sudo -u [user]  command
[01:23] <fg> abasinisvacant: hello
[01:23] <Gartral> i need to get an intel modem working... its a pci V.92
[01:23] <abasinisvacant> i'm looking for popular servers, such as freenode
[01:23] <mzanfardino> 1
[01:23] <zOap> Flannel, you're way off on what I want:)
[01:23] <chiarato> how do I change the setting on fire fox so that the page I visit are centered??
[01:23] <dweb> can't get ssh to authenticate - ubuntu edgy - any tips?
[01:23] <HymnToLife> charles, is it a Broadcom NIC, by any chance ?
[01:23] <Gartral> i need to get an intel modem working... its a pci V.92
[01:23] <charlie_> yes, hymnToLife
[01:23] <Flannel> zOap: then ask better questions, since everything you've said so far seems to be doable with sudo
[01:23] <fg> abasinisvacant: why are u looking for another than freenode?
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> dweb: is there an ssh server running?
[01:24] <HymnToLife> !modem | Gartral
[01:24] <ubotu> Gartral: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:24] <mzanfardino> dwi1: do this, from the terminal, type 'fdisk -l' and paste the results.
[01:24] <dweb> yes
[01:24] <abasinisvacant> fg, freenode has too many users
[01:24] <Gartral> yes
[01:24] <Flannel> zOap: you want a chroot jail perhaps?
[01:24] <zOap> Flannel, no, I said I want it to be ran with other rights other than sudo.
[01:24] <HymnToLife> charlie_,  run this :             lsmod | grep bcm43xx
[01:24] <zOap> chroot jail?
[01:24] <fg> abasinisvacant: but for educational/social project its ok
[01:24] <TheVault> I got a question on which option I should check. I am at the installation screen on Ubuntu 6.10. I just made a new partition(well I resized my C: which has Xp on it.) I have 13gig unallocated space....which option should I check at the installer to put Linux on the unallocated?
[01:24] <chiarato> help please!
[01:24] <HymnToLife> does it output something ?
[01:24] <chiarato> how do I change the setting on fire fox so that the page I visit are centered??
[01:24] <HymnToLife> !repeat | chiarato
[01:24] <ubotu> chiarato: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> dweb: What exactly is happening?
[01:24] <TheVault> if you need the options let me know
[01:25] <abasinisvacant> fg, pardon? yes, educational
[01:25] <Gartral> i need to get an intel modem working... its a pci V.92
[01:25] <Flannel> chiarato: you don't, that's something you'd do on the webpage itself.
[01:25] <fg> chiarato: what?
[01:25] <Flannel> !repeat | Gartral
[01:25] <ubotu> Gartral: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:25] <zOap> Flannel, what do you mean by chroot hell?
[01:25] <fg> abasinisvacant: lokk at the freenode page :) for groups .....
[01:25] <chiarato> the pages I go to are off centered
[01:25] <abasinisvacant> there are too many
[01:25] <dwi1> nothing comes up for disk -I
[01:25] <abasinisvacant> i'm looking for other servers that are popular
[01:25] <valehru2> Hey guys, on a fresh install of edgy, I keep getting the following error: Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!.  It's an M2N-SLI board.  I can only log in with the recovery mode as root, which is not a good thing.  Any ideas?
[01:25] <dwi1> but something comes up for just fdisk
[01:26] <chiarato> every since I upgraded!
[01:26] <Flannel> zOap: basically you can use chroot to sandbox programs.  But, agian, you've stated "it has to be run as root", but then you say it can't be run with sudo, so what exactly are you trying to ask?
[01:26] <mzanfardino> dwi1: 'fdisk -l'
[01:26] <Gartral> its not that i feel ignored, my reactions are a bit slow, and people type so fast
[01:26] <fg> abasinisvacant: so i cant help u maybe google..some rankings
[01:26] <charlie_> hymntolife, i did, nothing happened!!
[01:26] <charlie_> no output
[01:26] <TheVault> I need one on help with how to install linux
[01:26] <HymnToLife> valehru2, try to boot with noapic
[01:26] <TheVault> *one on one help
[01:26] <dwi1> yeah nothing comes up for that
[01:26] <mzanfardino> dwi1: that;s a "dash L (lower case)
[01:26] <HymnToLife> charlie_, using ndiswrapper ?
[01:26] <Flannel> TheVault: which installer are you using? Desktop CD (liveCD) or Alternate CD (textmode)?
[01:26] <charlie_> yep, with dellnic.inf
[01:26] <TheVault> LiveCD
[01:27] <dwi1> fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device
[01:27] <eugman> "Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 43: incomplete entry ignored." Any idea?
[01:27] <dwi1> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[01:27] <dwi1>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[01:27] <dwi1>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[01:27] <dwi1>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[01:27] <kitche> !paste
[01:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <dwi1> oops i meant to post that to paste
[01:27] <valehru2> HymnToLife, did that, no difference.
[01:27] <zOap> Flannel, It's an app that is launched within another app which has user rights. you see how that crashes? I just want it to run as my user rights...
[01:27] <HymnToLife> valehru2, and with also noapic ?
[01:27] <mzanfardino> dwi1: cut and paste this: fdisk -l
[01:27] <fg> does anybody know how to remove usplash from ubu?
[01:27] <Flannel> TheVault: you just do a normal installation, and you'll need to format that 13 gigs for linux to use them (that's in the installer), do you have a particular set of options you're unsure about? (having myself not used the liveCD installer in... forever)
[01:28] <valehru2> HymnToLife, I tried booting with and without noapic, no difference.
[01:28] <HymnToLife> fg, remove the "splsh" from your grub line
[01:28] <dwi1> mzanfardino when i cut and past that nothing comes up
[01:28] <mzanfardino> dwi1: really? hmm...
[01:28] <dwi1> yes
[01:28] <Flannel> zOap: but, you want it to run as a different user? or what? since, if it were the same user, you'd just launch the program.
[01:29] <mzanfardino> dwi1: sorry, try 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:29] <fg> HymnToLife: hmm i tried but its deeper problem
[01:29] <TheVault> I am dual booting
[01:29] <fg> HymnToLife: I show you if u want
[01:29] <TheVault> I took 13gig outta my C: drive
[01:29] <eugman> Can anyone how the new ubuntu exe works if you don't use an emulator?
[01:29] <TheVault> for linux
[01:30] <dwi1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2697/
[01:30] <TheVault> I am unsure which option in the LiveCD installer I should use
[01:30] <zOap> Flannel, myapp 1 launches(with user rights), it loads myapp 2(which has root rights, cannot be ran as user). Output: It wont load..
[01:30] <TheVault> Here is the options I have
[01:30] <topgun553> ---= I downloaded a driver for my Canon MP130 from here http://linux.cergynux.net/canon/ that is supose to work, but when I try to add a new printer I can't find the driver I just installed
[01:30] <topgun553> What do I do?
[01:30] <fg> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2628/
[01:30] <TheVault> Erase entire disk, use the largest continous free space or manually edit partition table
[01:31] <TheVault> which option do I choose to install linux to the 13gig unallocated space
[01:31] <kitche> TheVault: the free space option
[01:31] <TheVault> Alrighty
[01:31] <HymnToLife> fg, could you show me your modified menu.lst ?
[01:31] <topgun553> kitche,  any suggestions?
[01:31] <mzanfardino> dwi1: ok, now we are talking.  Looking at this, it appears /dev/hda is your 160GB drive. and that Ubuntu is/should be installed to it.  /dev/hda1 is your root, /dev/hda2 is the wrapper for /dev/hda5 which is your swap
[01:31] <dwi1> so it looks like the hd is there
[01:31] <TheVault> Alright, lemme do that now and see what happens
[01:32] <dwi1> so what do i do
[01:32] <Gartral> ok, who knows where to get dvdreadcss.lib?
[01:32] <mzanfardino> dwi1: now try this 'echo test >> test.txt' followed by 'ls test.txt'. was  a file created?
[01:32] <TheVault> Kitche - I just selected that option and now its installing, I sure hope was the right option(I am not doubting your skills :P)
[01:32] <dwi1> put that in the terminal?
[01:33] <fg> HymnToLife: where is it? now i`m using live cd
[01:33] <meloniatr> :ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao::ciao:
[01:33] <mzanfardino> dwi1: yeah. two different commands. the echo command will create a test.txt file with the work test and the ls command will display the file
[01:33] <mjr> Gartral, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[01:33] <charlie_> hymntolife: does it mean anything that i can ping google.com and get a response with 0% packet loss
[01:33] <meloniatr> :ubria:
[01:34] <soufiane> hi all
[01:34] <meloniatr> :fuma:
[01:34] <soufiane> the main menu is hiding now i cannot move it to it place
[01:34] <finferflu> meloniatr: ???
[01:34] <soufiane> any idea
[01:34] <dwi1> it appears the file was created
[01:34] <fg> HymnToLife: i removed metacity and usplash theme now from live cd i reinstalled this is  better but booting stopped after few minutes
[01:34] <dwi1> but the second command didnt open it
[01:34] <dwi1> i had to look in my desktop to open it
[01:34] <meloniatr> finferflu?
[01:34] <adamwest> guys i need help D
[01:34] <adamwest> d:
[01:35] <fg> HymnToLife: so where can i find this file?
[01:35] <Gartral> error /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh: command not found
[01:35] <finferflu> meloniatr: what are you talking about? lol
[01:35] <dwi1> are you sure the ls command will open the txt file
[01:35] <meloniatr> finferflu ok
[01:35] <adamwest> my kde theme took over gnome and now it looks buggy and i can't change themes, and the theme window keeps crashing :( (in gnome)
[01:35] <meloniatr> finferflu asl/ps?
[01:35] <dwi1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls test.txt
[01:35] <dwi1> test.txt
[01:35] <dwi1> thats it
[01:36] <kitche> dwi1: ls is just like dir
[01:36] <mzanfardino> dwi1: help me out.  when responding to me, type mzan followed by a tab.. this way I get a ding that you've responded
[01:36] <TheVault> Also, when I was running the LiveCD, my laptop did not connect to the internet. What wireless utility should I use?
[01:36] <finferflu> meloniatr: this is a help chan :P
[01:36] <Flannel> dwi1: you want `cat`
[01:36] <mzanfardino> dwi1: as for the ls, no, it's not going to open the file.  You can use cat for that.
[01:36] <Gartral> ok, who knows where to get dvdreadcss.lib? im running dapper
[01:36] <dwi1> mzanfardino: cat
[01:36] <mzanfardino> dwi1: I just wanted you to be sure that a  file wa created.
[01:36] <meloniatr> finferflu :clap:
[01:36] <topgun553> ---= I downloaded a driver for my Canon MP130 from here http://linux.cergynux.net/canon/ that is supose to work, but when I try to add a new printer I can't find the driver I just installed
[01:37] <mzanfardino> dwi1: yeah, as in 'cat test.txt'
[01:37] <finferflu> meloniatr: join ubuntuforums for chatting :P
[01:37] <mzanfardino> dwi1: but it appears that you are indeed able to write to the drive, so the drive does not appear to be the problem
[01:37] <Gartral> ok, who knows where to get dvdreadcss.lib? im running dapper
[01:37] <dwi1> mzanfardino: nothing happens
[01:37] <Flannel> !dvd | Gartral
[01:37] <ubotu> Gartral: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:37] <packagedeliverer> olivier imaplogin: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]                -> does this error mean I'm just using the wrong login if the banner says "courier-imap ready"
[01:37] <mzanfardino> dw
[01:37] <meloniatr> finferflu where are you from?
[01:37] <dwi1> mzanfardino: with cat
[01:37] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  but the file was created
[01:37] <finferflu> meloniatr: /join #ubuntuforums
[01:37] <mzanfardino> dwi1: you typed 'cat test.txt' and you didn't see test?
[01:38] <funkyHat> I'm trying to install libflashsupport from http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio but it depends on a higher version of libssl than Edgy has...
[01:38] <dwi1> mzanfardino: oh , yeah test shows up on the terminal, i just thought  a text file would open outside the terminal
[01:38] <agent> how do create multiple accounts for my multiple local mboxes without moving them to tb profile and without having to add pop or imap? why is pop and imap forced in account setup? does'nt anyone use their own programs to fetch and sort mails for multiple mailboxes?
[01:38] <mzanfardino> dwi1: try 'lsl -l test.txt' and paste the results
[01:38] <mzanfardino> dwi1: heh..
[01:38] <funkyHat> edgy is 0.9.8b-2ubuntu2 and libflashsupport wants 0.9.8c-1.... anyone got around this without problems?
[01:39] <ryan__> can someone please help me get a intel intergrated card to run with glx
[01:39] <soufiane> any help guys
[01:39] <mzanfardino> dwi1: nope. okay, anyway, we've confirmed that you can indeed write to the drive.  and the fdisk -l confirms that your root is set active... so it ought to boot.
[01:39] <soufiane> the main menu is hiding now i cannot move it to it place
[01:39] <agent> in thunderbird, how do i create multiple accounts for my multiple local mboxes without moving them to tb profile and without having to add pop or imap?
[01:39] <samalex> in Firefox on ubuntu, how can I tell it to open playlists and mp3s with xmms instead of that Rythmbox?
[01:39] <samalex> i can't find anyplace in firefox to set this, but I wasn't sure if it was set by the OS instead...
[01:39] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  and hdd0 should be the first thing to boot in bios right?
[01:40] <poningru> agent: just go to file->new->account wizard
[01:40] <tsmithe> meloniatr, why did you part #ubuntuforums so soon?
[01:40] <wil> i need mac ubuntu helo
[01:40] <wil> help*
[01:40] <mzanfardino> dwi1: yes, assuming that your cabling is correct.  It concerns me that your motherboard identifies only the second and third ports.
[01:40] <bruenig> samalex, when you open mp3's in firefox, it should pop up with a dialog asking you what to do, or at least at some point it should have done that
[01:40] <n2diy_> soufiane: do you see a little arrow on the right or left side of the screen, where menu used to be? Click on it.
[01:40] <charlie_> mzanfardino, hymntolife was being really helpful and now seems to have disappeared, do u know much about dell1450 wireless card, have got ndiswrapper working and  hymntolife asked me to try lsmod | grep bcm43xx but i got no output from that
[01:40] <zylche> Can someone tell me a good utility to restore a large amount of files from a hard drive?
[01:40] <dwi1> mzanfardino: should i connect it to the first port even though its not labeled?
[01:41] <bruenig> samalex, edit>preferences>content>filetypes in firefox
[01:41] <agent> poningru: that requires me to enter pop3 or imap, i do not want thunderbird to do any fetching for me, i just want it to work like a normal MTA
[01:41] <soufiane> no there isn't
[01:41] <samalex> bruenig, it does, but it wants me to browse to the application I want to open, and it'd be bunk if I have to browse to the xmms app everytime.  In the dropdown it only has the Rythmbox.
[01:41] <agent> !help > wil
[01:41] <bruenig> samalex, well type in xmms and then select have it do that everytime from now on
[01:41] <samalex> bruenig, I actually did find that, but there's no option to add.
[01:41] <wil> how will Ubuntu handle slot loading (no eject button)
[01:41] <meloniatr> :fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma::fuma:
[01:42] <poningru> agent: oh
[01:42] <poningru> you cant do that
[01:42] <agent> wil: you unmount
[01:42] <Flannel> meloniatr: please take that elsewhere
[01:42] <mzanfardino> charlie_: unfortunately, I haven't any experience with wireless cards (yet), as I have both wired and wireless in my machine at home.  However, if the command Hymn gave you returned no results, it's because lsmod did not list a device with bcm43xx in it.  You might try the same command, but omit the xx
[01:42] <HymnToLife> charlie_, sorry, I'm quite busy at the moment
[01:42] <wil> okay
[01:42] <tehsu> Whats the best way to install compiz
[01:42] <mzanfardino> dwi1: I'm not sure about that....
[01:42] <poningru> agent: like you have just a bunch of mbox files?
[01:42] <TheVault> how do you connect to the internet using a live cd running off wireless internet?
[01:42] <bruenig> tehsu, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:42] <charlie_> hymntolife: sorry dude, i can see people are asking u a stakck of questions
[01:42] <dwi1> mzanfardino: well would it hurt anything
[01:42] <wil> now what about installation when i must remove the disk before i restart
[01:42] <HymnToLife> charlie_, your card seems to have a Broadcom chipset, did you blacklist the native driver for it so it doesn't interfere with ndiswrapper ?
[01:42] <agent> poningru: are you serious? you cannot do something simple like *not* having thunderbird fetch emails?
[01:42] <poningru> agent: I guess you can just point the local folder to that
[01:42] <agent> poningru: exactly, like mutt and any other MTA... i just want tb to act like an mta
[01:43] <charlie_> hymn how do i do that please?
[01:43] <mzanfardino> dwi1: don't really know.  I suppose if the port is indeed an IDE port, then no....
[01:43] <poningru> agent: oh just go to account settings and change the local folder to that path
[01:43] <agent> poningru: local folder is one folder and it is not my mbox but an mbox that fb creates and stuffs all emails into
[01:43] <dwi1> ah this is driving me nuts
[01:43] <Flannel> agent: mutt is not a MTA, you want it to act like a MUA
[01:43] <poningru> agent: I realize that
[01:43] <topgun553> How Come I Can't edit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <bruenig> topgun553, what sort of errors are you getting when you try?
[01:44] <LjL> topgun553: you need to be root
[01:44] <mzanfardino> dwi1: you should double check the printing on the board and verify that there isn't anything else printed next to the port...
[01:44] <poningru> agent: you do realize that mail transfer agents are pretty complicated 'servers'
[01:44] <topgun553> how do i become root LjL
[01:44] <ardchoille42> topgun553, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell topgun553 about root | topgun553, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:44] <mzanfardino> dwi1: also, when you load BIOS setup, can you probe the harddrive list?  if so, it should tell you what channel each drive is on..
[01:44] <charlie_> hymntolife - have found instructions so will try that, ignore my last q please!
[01:44] <agent> poningru: but i cannot even create an account without tb forcing me to chose pop or imap... if i just random chooose and put in localhost then it will try to fetch my emails, if i disable fetch emails then it never checks the mbox
[01:44] <dwi1> im not sure how to prove the hard drive list
[01:45] <dwi1> probe*
[01:45] <agent> poningru: sorry, i used the worng acronym :)
[01:45] <poningru> gaah
[01:45] <poningru> you are not listening
[01:45] <mzanfardino> topgun553: you need to do something like 'sudo nano /etx/apt/sources.list'
[01:45] <wil> this is useless!!!
[01:45] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  u dont think i need to update bios do i
[01:45] <poningru> agent: just go put localfolders as that
[01:45] <LjL> dwi1: what do you mean probe? for instance "lshw" will list your HDs
[01:45] <topgun553> alright
[01:45] <topgun553> umm
[01:45] <poningru> or you can create a new folder within local folders as that
[01:46] <topgun553> -------------------------irst step is adding "apt-line" to /etc/apt/sources.list in your Debian. Open "/etc/apt/sources.list" with an editor and add the next line.
[01:46] <topgun553> deb http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/debian ./
[01:46] <topgun553> Then update the package information by "apt-get update"
[01:46] <topgun553> # apt-get update
[01:46] <topgun553> Now you can proceed to the contents below.
[01:46] <mwalsh> what can i use to open rars?
[01:46] <topgun553> I am doing that step
[01:46] <topgun553> does it matter where i add the deb line?
[01:46] <dwi1> ljl lshw will list my hds?
[01:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell topgun553 about paste | topgun553, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:46] <dwi1> on the erminal
[01:46] <poningru> !unrar > mwalsh
[01:46] <LjL> dwi1: it just listed mine
[01:46] <agent> poningru: i was not aware that you can have multiple mailfolders, i though it was just one
[01:46] <LjL> topgun553: no
[01:46] <mwalsh> !rar
[01:46] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:46] <topgun553> thanks LjL
[01:46] <mzanfardino> dwi1: no, I thnk you should do this: boot the PC and opt into the BIOS set.  Then look around and see if you can verify the drive installed and where it's mounting.  It should be fairly clear that it's mounted to IDEx (x being the channel id).  You want to be sure it's on the first channel (whether thats zero or one is irrelevent)...
[01:46] <mzanfardino> dwi1: before you do this though, paste your /boot/grubs/menu.list for me
[01:47] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  i already typed in that command to look at the hadr drives
[01:47] <Random_Transit> well well, look who it is
[01:47] <Flappity> :D
[01:47] <bruenig> it is /boot/grub not /boot/grubs
[01:48] <mzanfardino> bruenig: thanks.
[01:48] <Random_Transit> Flappity here is having some troubles with Beryl
[01:48] <topgun553> Am I supose to type #apt-get update in the terminal?
[01:48] <bruenig> topgun553, sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <mzanfardino> dwi1: bruenig is right, it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <LjL> topgun553: yes, but it's "sudo apt-get update"
[01:48] <charlie_> hymntolife - charlie@Charlie:~$ sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:48] <charlie_> Password:
[01:48] <charlie_> charlie@Charlie:~$ sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[01:48] <charlie_> ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:48] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  it says no file or directory for the boot grubs menu list
[01:48] <dwi1> oh
[01:48] <LjL> Ubotu, tell charlie_ about paste | charlie_, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:48] <mwalsh> how to open rar in 6.10?
[01:48] <LjL> Ubotu, tell mwalsh about rar | mwalsh, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:48] <mwalsh> I saw it
[01:48] <Random_Transit> Flappity, why don't you tell us what the problem is
[01:48] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  still no such file or directory
[01:48] <mwalsh> instructions arent there for 6.10
[01:48] <LjL> mwalsh: then the problem is?
[01:49] <bruenig> mwalsh, from the command line when you have it installed, unrar e whatever.rar
[01:49] <LjL> mwalsh: don't they work for 6.10 too?
[01:49] <topgun553> alright
[01:49] <mwalsh> no
[01:49] <mwalsh> they dont
[01:49] <userundefined> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_RAR_Archiver_.28rar.29
[01:49] <mzanfardino> dwi1: type 'ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:49] <LjL> mwalsh: anyway you need the unrar-nonfree package (for some archives at least, for some others unrar-free or whatever it's called is ok)
[01:49] <topgun553> and what do i do with this line deb http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/buntu./
[01:49] <topgun553> terminal?
[01:49] <Flappity> I dunno, since I don't quite know how it's supposed to work :P  But on the right side of my desktop, I have a large black area
[01:49] <mwalsh> nope
[01:49] <bruenig> topgun553, you put that in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:49] <Flappity> And it's not showing up as a window manager
[01:49] <mwalsh> doesnt worok
[01:50] <phlak> i need help mounting my ntfs hard drive  i've tried this  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/user/Desktop/ntfs   but it doesn't work
[01:50] <LjL> topgun553: add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list i suppose. but what are you trying to accomplish? are you aware, of course, that installing packages meant for Debian (and *especially* adding whole repositories meant for Debian) can break your system almost beyond repair?
[01:50] <kitche> Flappity: #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl can help you out more with beryl issues
[01:50] <mwalsh> its not allowing me to get unrar...
[01:50] <userundefined> phlak: does the directory ~/Desktop/ntfs already exist?  You need to create the mount point before you can mount to it
[01:50] <Flappity> Alright, thanks
[01:50] <jrattner> Is there an Active X plugin for firefox
[01:50] <topgun553> LjL,  I have been trying to get my printer to work
[01:50] <dwi1> mzanfardino: no such file or directory
[01:51] <bruenig> mwalsh, sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:51] <topgun553> for about a month now
[01:51] <LjL> topgun553: a pointer to the howto you're following please?
[01:51] <bruenig> !info unrar
[01:51] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:51] <mzanfardino> dwi1: well, that might very well be the problem!
[01:51] <mwalsh> that doesnt work dude
[01:51] <userundefined> topgun553: what kind of printer?  Have you checked linuxprinting.org ?
[01:51] <mzanfardino> dwi1: one sec
[01:51] <kitche> jrattner: no since ActiveX doesn't work in Linux at all there is a project similar to Active X though
[01:51] <bruenig> mwalsh, have you enabled multiverse?
[01:51] <phlak> userundefind, yes i did make it  and yes i did use sudo  i also tried  su
[01:51] <topgun553> LjL, http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[01:51] <gecko> i updated my 6.10 and now my wifi doesnt want to work...eth0 works but not ath0
[01:51] <mwalsh> no
[01:51] <dwi1> okay
[01:51] <gecko> it was fine before updates
[01:51] <topgun553> userundefined, yeah it says my printer is a paperweight
[01:51] <mzanfardino> dwi1: type 'dpkg -l | grep grub' and paste the results
[01:51] <mwalsh> bruenig: Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:51] <bruenig> mwalsh, have you ever changed your sources.list? and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:51] <mwalsh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:51] <mwalsh> is only available from another source
[01:51] <jrattner> kitche, hmm interest so i can't watch previews on moviefone.com ......
[01:51] <mwalsh> im using 6.10
[01:51] <jrattner> Has anyone ever tried mozilla Sea Moneky
[01:51] <topgun553> userundefined, well it didn't actually have my exact printer, but the closest number to it
[01:52] <finferflu> yes
[01:52] <userundefined> topgun553: ah, sorry to hear that.  I had a similar problem with a lexmark, to no avail
[01:52] <finferflu> i did
[01:52] <LjL> topgun553: the line you need to add to sources.list is   deb http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/ubuntu ./
[01:52] <bruenig> mwalsh, copy and paste the following: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:52] <LjL> topgun553: the one you gave lacked a space (at least)
[01:52] <gu014> hello,
[01:52] <riotkittie> i havent touched seamonkey since it was mozilla. wait, thats what seamonkey /is/ right?
[01:52] <gecko> hey riotkittie
[01:52] <riotkittie> hi gecko
[01:52] <mwalsh> bruenig all that at once?
[01:52] <bruenig> mwalsh, yep
[01:53] <charlie_> riotkittie... that's right
[01:53] <finferflu> seamonkey is a community developed mozilla suite
[01:53] <mwalsh> nothigns happening
[01:53] <mwalsh> wuts that website to format the code
[01:53] <finferflu> if i've understood it correctly...
[01:53] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2699/
[01:53] <gu014> i am using a nvidia geforce 6200 tc. i am using its dvi port with a dvi analog adapter into a vga lcd flat panel. i am receiving no output when the computer boots up so i was wondering if i am somehow using the incorrect adapter for this video card??
[01:53] <gecko> My wifi quit working after i installed my k7 amd processor update..... just a coincidence?
[01:53] <userundefined> phlak: have you tried one of these methods ? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows
[01:53] <gecko> and is there a way to roll back drivers and things?
[01:54] <Iphigenia> Hi! Dumb question (again!): what is the terminal comand to see what version ubuntu I am using? As well is there an online list somewhere of terminal commands I can consult?
[01:54] <LjL> bruenig: i can only appreciate the impressing effort
[01:54] <LjL> Iphigenia: lsb_release -a
[01:54] <LjL> blah
[01:54] <mwalsh> Bruenig nothing is happening when I paste that code
[01:54] <SmAcKaSs> hey all :) got an install question for someone
[01:54] <dweb> where do we post bugs on ssh?
[01:54] <mwalsh> just a bunch of errors
[01:54] <bruenig> mwalsh, something is happening, it must
[01:54] <mwalsh> no!
[01:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dweb about bugs | dweb, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:54] <mwalsh> nothing is happening!
[01:54] <gecko> go ahead and tell us whats up smack
[01:54] <mwalsh> errors!
[01:54] <riotkittie> i was never impressed with the suite as a whole - felt a bit too.. bloated, did too much i didnt need
[01:54] <LjL> dweb: that is, if it's the Ubuntu SSH
[01:54] <bubbles2002> 2 new problems fo rme! :)
[01:54] <bruenig> mwalsh, you started after the colon and pasted everything right?
[01:54] <kitche> dweb: what kind of bugs?
[01:54] <phlak> userundefind, yep
[01:54] <LjL> !nothing | mwalsh
[01:54] <ubotu> mwalsh: Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so. - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[01:55] <riotkittie> perhaps i'll give it another go. its been eons :P
[01:55] <SmAcKaSs> I get an error when booting (not installed)... something about Jobs being turned off
[01:55] <radioaktivstorm> hello how do i compile c++ from the terminal?
[01:55] <userundefined> dweb: if it's ubuntu-related, as in a package issue, launchpad.  if it's upstream, openssh's bug tracker.
[01:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell radioaktivstorm about compile | radioaktivstorm, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:55] <mwalsh> Im getting a ridiculous amount of errors
[01:55] <finferflu> ah
[01:55] <Iphigenia> oops back again: Hi! Dumb question (again!): what is the terminal comand to see what version ubuntu I am using? As well is there an online list somewhere of terminal commands I can consult?
[01:55] <LjL> radioaktivstorm: install build-essential and then "gcc filename.cpp"
[01:55] <bruenig> mwalsh, you started after the colon and pasted everything right?
[01:55] <topgun553> LjL, I did that line saved it and ran apt-get
[01:55] <LjL> Iphigenia: lsb_release -a
[01:55] <finferflu> anyone tried WPN111, the netgear wireless card?
[01:55] <topgun553> but the next part of the tutorial doesn't do anything
[01:55] <mwalsh> bruenig:
[01:55] <bubbles2002> all of a sudden - when I log into Ubuntu - and keep in mind I changed NOTHING - it only has an 800x600 screen - the 1024x728 isnt even an option anymore.. only 480 or 800... any thoughts?
[01:55] <finferflu> it freezes my machine
[01:55] <gecko> is there a way to update through terminal to 7.04 Alpha? or w/e the beta is?
[01:55] <mwalsh> bruenig http://pastebin.ca/326337
[01:55] <SmAcKaSs> i had XP and Vista dual-booting, and deleted the Vista partition hoping that would help
[01:55] <userundefined> phlak: hmm.  You sure you're choosing the correct device and that /dev/hdb isn't a CDROM or something ?
[01:56] <broyce_> what does this mean "rpmbuild bad exit status"?
[01:56] <bruenig> mwalsh, you aren't pasting it all as one line
[01:56] <dweb> when I run ssh, it hangs without doing any authentication; I've tried all the usual things, like purge and reinstall
[01:56] <topgun553> w-i-n-d-o-w-s
[01:56] <LjL> topgun553: the next part being? (i don't know the printer model)
[01:56] <mzanfardino> dwi1: ok, dpkg shows you have grub installed.  the reason you don't see a file in /boot/grub/ is because you omitted the 'ls'.  think of ls as dir: it is the command that you use to list the files in a directory (and in linux, everything is a file)...
[01:56] <mwalsh> i tried
[01:56] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  you get that?
[01:56] <kitche> gecko yes if you wish edit your /etc/apt/source.list file so the repos point to 7.04 one
[01:56] <radioaktivstorm> thanks!
[01:56] <mwalsh> i pasted exactly wat you gave me
[01:56] <n2diy_> Iphigenia: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/
[01:56] <topgun553> i am supose to instal ip500
[01:56] <Iphigenia> LjL: Thanks! Congratulate me: a xubuntu newbie has upgraded from 6.06 to 6.1!
[01:56] <Gartral> THANK YOU
[01:56] <packagedeliverer> what the hell... an authtest recognises my login, but a 'telnet localhost 143' won't let me login
[01:56] <mwalsh> send it again please
[01:56] <dwi1> ah
[01:56] <gecko> kitche: what do i need to change in source.list?
[01:56] <topgun553> i think
[01:56] <LjL> Iphigenia: that's cool, considering there's no such version as 6.1 ;-) it's 6.10 - that's because it's not a number but a date
[01:57] <mzanfardino> dwi1: so try again.  this time type 'ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:57] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  so retype everyting with ls ni front of it
[01:57] <bruenig> mwalsh, I don't know what your irc client does when it copies stuff but that should all have gone at once and been fine
[01:57] <riotkittie> bubbles2002: either manually edit xorg.conf or in a term... sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg ... resolution options pop up towards the end
[01:57] <SmAcKaSs> brb... switching computers
[01:57] <mwalsh> im using irssi
[01:57] <mwalsh> can you just resend it please
[01:57] <Iphigenia> n2diy: Thanks
[01:57] <LjL> topgun553: ip500? you mean ip1500?
[01:57] <kitche> gecko: edgy to feisty
[01:57] <topgun553> sure i will try that one
[01:57] <phlak> userundefind, yes i am sure that hdb1 is my ntfs partition
[01:57] <gecko> kitche: thanks
[01:57] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  i copied and pasted exactly what you put and still get no file or directory
[01:57] <LjL> topgun553: wait no i was just asking because i can see no ip500
[01:57] <aussieaubs> hey guys - i wanna get a laptop to work in dual screens under ubuntu when connected to the docking station but also go to single screen mode when not docked (similar to the windows way). Is this relatively easy to do or possible?? thanks
[01:57] <topgun553> i think thats the one people said would work with my printer
[01:58] <GillBates> hello
[01:58] <LjL> topgun553: anyway type sudo apt-get install libcnbj-2.5 bjfilter-2.5 pstocanonbj
[01:58] <bubbles2002> ok will try - second question -
[01:58] <mzanfardino> dwi1: paste your screen right now
[01:58] <Iphigenia> LjL: I stand corrected
[01:58] <mzanfardino> dwi1: and send me the link
[01:58] <CrocoJet> hi all
[01:58] <bruenig> mwalsh, copy and paste the following: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:58] <userundefined> phlak: you aren't getting any error messages?
[01:58] <bubbles2002> I donwloaded the linux drivers for my wireless adapter.. its an exe file - when I click it in linux it gives an error msg
[01:58] <jrattner> How do i switch between tabs in firefox
[01:58] <CrocoJet> exist one easy way to share my internet connection using firestarter ?
[01:58] <GillBates> how do i get a minimalist system....thats is basic applications such as tex processor, FF,... wihout ubuntu-desktop?
[01:58] <userundefined> jrattner: gnome or kde?
[01:58] <finferflu> jrattner: ALT+number
[01:59] <LjL> bubbles2002: the *linux* driver is an exe file? sounds suspicious if you ask me
[01:59] <jrattner> hmm
[01:59] <GillBates> i am planning on to start witha server installation....what should i do after that? anyone please
[01:59] <LjL> !minimal | GillBates
[01:59] <ubotu> GillBates: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:59] <bubbles2002> someone gav me the link here before.
[01:59] <bruenig> GillBates, use the server version and then apt-get all you need
[01:59] <kitche> bubbles2002: have to use ndiswrapper unzip the exe then find the .inf file for your driver in the folder then run ndiswrapper -i <driver>.inf
[01:59] <bruenig> there is a minimal cd?
[01:59] <bubbles2002> i have the linksys wireless G-PCI adabter
[01:59] <CrocoJet> I have two nics in my computer here (one nic connected cablemodem) and other nic connected with local computer
[01:59] <bruenig> dang
[01:59] <dwi1> mzanfardino: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2700/
[01:59] <LjL> GillBates: actually, the Alternate CD will allow that, too. but if you get the Minimal you won't download stuff that you aren't going to use. *don't* use the Desktop CD, it won't allow that
[01:59] <mwalsh> ok NOW its working
[01:59] <illusia> bubbles2002,  you have to unpack this file and there you`ll find driver.inf ;)
[01:59] <gecko> i typed sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list   and it opened but its blank?
[01:59] <mwalsh> had to edit the text
[02:00] <CrocoJet> do I need make some special setup in other computer ?
[02:00] <phlak> userundefind, yes  sorry i forgot to tell you     something about bad superblock on hdb1  and  unknown filesystem type
[02:00] <CrocoJet> anyone can help me ?
[02:00] <riotkittie> oh sweet. i should snag the minimal cd :D
[02:00] <bubbles2002> will try both thanks.
[02:00] <kitche> gecko: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <mwalsh> bruenig: still cant open rars....
[02:00] <bruenig> mwalsh, did unrar install?
[02:00] <mzanfardino> dwi1: hmm... one sec
[02:00] <rc-1> what are the two companies here? http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20070122/linux-foudation-merger-windows-microsoft.htm
[02:00] <mwalsh> i dont know
[02:01] <userundefined> phlak: ah, well the filesystem could be dirty then.  If you are dualbooting, you could try defragging the disk.  However, I've not experienced that issue personally and you might want to address that to the chat at large again
[02:01] <mwalsh> yes
[02:01] <mwalsh> it did
[02:01] <topgun553> WE HAVE SUCESS THAT DAMN PRINTER IS MAKING NOISE AT LEAST
[02:01] <mwalsh> thanks :)
[02:01] <mwalsh> !rar
[02:01] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:01] <kitche> rc-1: they aren't companies but groups it says in the article the two groups names
[02:01] <bruenig> mwalsh, ok well use "unrar e whatever.rar"
[02:01] <LjL> topgun553, cool, but don't type in all caps please ;)
[02:01] <topgun553> woot
[02:01] <topgun553> hahaha
[02:01] <dwi1> the logical name of the hd is /dev/hda
[02:01] <topgun553> i have a printer again!
[02:01] <topgun553> Thanks LjL, and everyone else
[02:02] <two|face> hey how can I run commands at startup as a particular user
[02:02] <SmAcKaSs> I'm back; Here is my problem: (on boot of Ubuntu 6.1) Error recieved "can't load ttp: job control turned off"
[02:02] <GillBates> sorry i was logged out :(
[02:02] <phlak> riotkittie, I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   i am having a very hard time mounting a ntfs partition
[02:02] <two|face> for instance I want to run a daemon but I don't want it to run as root
[02:02] <SmAcKaSs> i had Vista and XP installed (dual-boot)....
[02:02] <bruenig> !caps
[02:02] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:02] <LjL> GillBates: did you see my two messages?
[02:02] <riotkittie> phlak:  i need you to stop abusing the caps.  ok, whats the problem? elaborate?
[02:03] <kitche> SmAcKaSs: you mean 6.10 there is no ubuntu that is 6.1 but it seems to me like udev is messed up or the isntall that you did got messed up
[02:03] <topgun553> DAMN, so close... it only prints in black and white :(
[02:03] <LjL> GillBates: that is, the bot factoid and the alternate cd comment
[02:03] <SmAcKaSs> yes, 6.10... what could i try to do?
[02:03] <GillBates> i saw your first one Ljl
[02:03] <topgun553> LjL,  any suggestions?
[02:03] <SmAcKaSs> i got the iso from the website, and burned to cd
[02:03] <GillBates> i got the link...
[02:04] <LjL> GillBates: actually, the Alternate CD will allow that, too. but if you get the Minimal you won't download stuff that you aren't going to use. *don't* use the Desktop CD, it won't allow that
[02:04] <LjL> ^second
[02:04] <riotkittie> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mount/point    ... mount/point being an existing folder somewhere in your root file system and /dev/hdxx being the hard drive & partition
[02:04] <GillBates> oh ok ....
[02:04] <GillBates> i have a stable 6.10 system....but its bloated now....
[02:04] <LjL> topgun553: to be honest... i'd be happy to even have got it to work in b/w, given it's a paperweight for linuxprinting =)
[02:04] <GillBates> too many things installed when i look at synaptic
[02:04] <mzanfardino> dwi1: haven't forgotten about you
[02:04] <bruenig> GillBates, apt-get remove is your friend
[02:04] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I could save/record some of the tracks on http://www.davidgilmour.com/arnoldlayne/ ? they're embeded as flash things, so I was wondering if there was a way to record my audio output or something.... I got some suggestions yesterday but I forgot what they were...
[02:05] <violot> Hmmm.
[02:05] <LjL> GillBates: well it's your decision whether to hunt them down or reinstall with the minimal or alternate cd... however, removing them manually isn't so hard if you know what are the main dependencies
[02:05] <violot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2055283#post2055283
[02:05] <violot> Anyone?
[02:05] <rellik> using twinview, anyone know how to make apps go fullscreen to just one monitor, instead of spanning both?
[02:05] <riotkittie> ok stupid question time!
[02:05] <dwi1> mzanfardino: any luck with the problem
[02:05] <SmAcKaSs> kitche - i was trying to install, had only booted the install cd. the loading screen is all i see before the error.
[02:05] <GillBates> iyea thts the problem.... dependency hell...and scared to remove stufff.....
[02:05] <violot> rellik: It does it by default for me
[02:05] <mwalsh> ok now my dvd burners arent mounting.
[02:05] <mzanfardino> dwi1: still looking at something. one sec
[02:06] <dwi1> ok
[02:06] <LjL> GillBates, in the end you want to have a text-mode only install?
[02:06] <rellik> violot, hmm  could you paste your xorg.conf?  I must have something weird in mine
[02:06] <bruenig> mwalsh, what do you mean they aren't mounting. What are you doing that you expect them to mount and what errors or other info about why they aren't mounting
[02:06] <phlak> riotkittie, when i try to mount my ntfs partition like this   mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/user/Desktop/ntfs   it gives me some wonky error  like  bad super block on hdb1  unknown filesystem or something like that   and i have done it via sudo  and su  and i did make the proper dir for it and i have mounted other ntfs before
[02:06] <violot> rellik, or now that I think of it, do you have the same size monitors?
[02:07] <mwalsh> bruenig: here is the error mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:07] <rellik> violot, nope
[02:07] <GillBates> i dont mind the path to the stable system...i am failry proficient with CLI.....but in the end i want a stable WM such as minimal Gnome, fluxbox ....no kde /xfce....:)
[02:07] <mwalsh> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
[02:07] <mwalsh> missing codepage or other error
[02:07] <violot> Oh.
[02:07] <mwalsh> in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:07] <mwalsh> bruenig: i need to burn an isop
[02:07] <mzanfardino> dwi1: ok, try this: 'sudo update-grub'
[02:07] <mwalsh> dmesg | tail  or so
[02:07] <violot> rellik, I have a 17" and a 21"
[02:07] <mzanfardino> dwi1:
[02:07] <bruenig> mwalsh, what are you trying to do exactly
[02:07] <violot> rellik, one sec
[02:07] <SmAcKaSs> are there any nix gurus here? anyone that might know what my error acutally is from? ::::  Error recieved "can't load ttp: job control turned off"
[02:08] <mzanfardino> dwi1: when it completes, try the 'ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst' again and see if you now have a file
[02:08] <rellik> violot, I don't wanna copy and paste your xorg.conf..  just to look for some twinview option you have different than me that might fix this
[02:08] <mwalsh> bruenig: trying to burn an iso to a blank cd
[02:08] <bruenig> mwalsh, cd or dvd?
[02:08] <GillBates> i guess the 2.6.17-10 is fauly stable on my thinkpad....
[02:08] <mwalsh> bruenig: cd
[02:08] <LjL> GillBates: well then what you need to make sure is to never remove any package that's depended upon by ubuntu-standard (and specifically ubuntu-minimal!). if apt-get remove something tells you that one of those is being removed, don't say Yes to it
[02:08] <GillBates> The reason i am asking is that...i havent done a server install before... someone suggested me to do that then put xorg on top of that.....
[02:08] <SmAcKaSs> alright then, trying some things. be back soon
[02:09] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  no such file or directory still
[02:09] <bruenig> mwalsh, try cdrecord whatever.iso (I think that is the command, not sure if you have to tell it what /dev to put it on, try it though)
[02:09] <dwi1> mzanfardino: puttin the first command it says no grub directory
[02:09] <mwalsh> yeah but the drives arent being recognized...
[02:09] <mzanfardino> dwi1: paste the results of the 'sudo update-grub' comments
[02:09] <GillBates> yea...LjL exactly...thanks....i have seen that prompt ....fortunately i said no to removing -minimal, standard...etc
[02:09] <LjL> GillBates: if you want to remove most of your current GUI stuff, i'd remove libgnome or even libgtk, that will get rid of a lot of stuff. of course, you'll be left with text-mode or a safemode-only CX
[02:10] <GillBates> OK
[02:10] <LjL> GillBates: i mean X. you could even just remove everything that is *not* part of ubuntu-standard - that way you'd end up with something that's just about exactly like the minimal CD in its minimal option
[02:10] <riotkittie> phlak: im clueless as to what is going on there. this ntfs drive - is it housing an XP or 2k install? if so, have you tried  a chkdsk from that OS?  a defrag?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> might want to make that libgtk-* or libgtk*
[02:10] <topgun553> LjL,  you know how to do dual monitor with nvidia graphsics card?
[02:10] <GillBates> will i still have GUI then...if i remove everything except minimal?
[02:10] <bruenig> mwalsh, cdrecord dev=/dev/hd? whatever.iso (if the above doesn't work, use this, making sure to replace ?)
[02:10] <LjL> gnomefreak: yeah i didn't mean to give specific package names, the actual ones are different for sure
[02:10] <dwi1> mzanfardino: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2702/
[02:10] <GillBates> i mean standard !
[02:11] <charlie_> byeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:11] <gnomefreak> LjL: oh ok sorry just looking up lyrics and happened to see that
[02:11] <LjL> GillBates: note that you want to use "--purge remove" if you want the configuration files wiped too, of course. "--purge autoremove" will also help on Edgy
[02:11] <mwalsh> bruenig: the drives dont have a volume name..
[02:11] <LjL> GillBates: no, you won't have a GUI
[02:11] <GillBates> ohk thanks...let me note it down....
[02:11] <bruenig> mwalsh, they must
[02:11] <LjL> GillBates: to install one you can get the xorg package... and then, of course, your favorite WM
[02:11] <cosmodad> how I can change what happens when I hit the "shutdown" button? I want to call hibernate/suspend2...
[02:11] <speyer> which gdesklet i have to install so i can have system information displays ?
[02:12] <phlak> riotkittie, it is an xp sp2  but i can't do a chkdsk from the os since i cannot boot into it   i just want to copy the files from that hd to a external drive
[02:12] <GillBates> oh....i was looking for the basic ubuntu + minimum GUI ...specifically Firefox, OOo, acroread, gedit, network-manager and the like....
[02:12] <mwalsh> bruenig: you here?
[02:12] <GillBates> oh i c....so i should do the xorg first....is that right?
[02:12] <mzanfardino> dwi1: wait, I think I know the problem (at least with you not finding grub)...
[02:12] <LjL> GillBates, i don't believe there is something just like that, so your best bet is still to either remove everything you don't want, or remove *everything* except ubuntu-standard and then reinstall the stuff you need
[02:13] <bruenig> mwalsh, what do you mean they don't have a volume name, I can't imagine that being the case. To see what they should be try doing this: cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
[02:13] <GillBates> ok ...i will try that....
[02:13] <LjL> GillBates: if it were me, i think i'd remove libgtk and then install the stuff i need
[02:13] <nentis> anyone running Ubuntu 6.06 server on SAS hardware?  I'm close to purchasing an IBM x3655 with SAS.
[02:13] <reverendnathan> hey there cap'in, how do I change my monitors refresh rate? I gave xorg.conf my correct Horizontal and Vertical info, but it hasn't taken in possible refresh rates beyong 60Hz (My monitor is capable to up to 75 Hz).
[02:13] <phlak> riotkittie, it also fails when trying to load the ddo  a maxtor ddo
[02:13] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  whats the prob
[02:13] <GillBates> libgtk.....ok...
[02:13] <_3uG_> is it possible to get ytalk/talkd to work without xinetd installed? apache2 and openssh work just fine without it, but it seems that xinetd is required for ytalk/talkd
[02:13] <mwalsh> oh they do nvmrnd
[02:13] <LjL> GillBates: of course if you're left with no X and need help, you can install irssi to IRC from the console
[02:13] <mwalsh> so wuts the cdrecord comand again
[02:14] <bruenig> mwalsh, cdrecord dev=/dev/hd? whatever.iso
[02:14] <topgun553> LjL, Do you know how to get dual monitor working?
[02:14] <mzanfardino> dwi1: you are running from the live cd, and you don't have /dev/hda mounted...
[02:14] <LjL> mwalsh, cdrecord dev=/dev/hd? whatever.iso <- apparently
[02:14] <mzanfardino> dwi1:
[02:14] <GillBates> alrite.... then i would assume dhcp will work wired...right?
[02:14] <TheVault> Hey guys, I got a problem. I successfully just completed doing a Dual boot with Windows Xp & Ubuntu 6.10. I downloaded this software called "Wireless Assistant" from the "Add/Remove Program" area. When I am running the program, I don't see my wireless network. Can someone help me out with this issue?
[02:14] <bruenig> I belief that is it, I haven't done many cd .iso, usually dvd .iso
[02:14] <LjL> topgun553: perhaps i'll know in a couple of days, when i try that... though, actually, i'm going to try it with two separate video cards
[02:14] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  shouldnt it have been mounted when i installed it?
[02:14] <LjL> !dualhead | topgun553
[02:14] <ubotu> topgun553: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead
[02:14] <topgun553> oh
[02:14] <mwalsh> bruenig: nothing
[02:14] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[02:15] <mzanfardino> dwi1: try this 'sudo mkdir /mnt/tst' then....
[02:15] <mwalsh> bruenig: tons of errors
[02:15] <bruenig> mwalsh, seems to be a common thing with you
[02:15] <GillBates> thanks LjL.....i really appreciate it....see you around....
[02:15] <dwi1> mzanfardino: do i put ls before that
[02:15] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I could save/record some of the tracks on http://www.davidgilmour.com/arnoldlayne/ ? they're embeded as flash things, so I was wondering if there was a way to record my audio output or something.... I got some suggestions yesterday but I forgot what they were...
[02:15] <mwalsh> bruenig: or ubuntu :)
[02:15] <mzanfardino> dwi1: follow that with 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tst'
[02:15] <bruenig> mwalsh, let me find an iso I can test this on, now that I found that minimal cd, I can use that
[02:15] <TheVault> Can someone please help me out?
[02:16] <wy> Hi I'm looking for a program that can deskew a scanned image automatically.
[02:16] <mwalsh> ok
[02:16] <mzanfardino> dwi1: no, you are executing 'mkdir' with 'sudo' in front to execute it as a psuedo-root user
[02:16] <mzanfardino> dwi1: the first command will make a directory /mnt/tst
[02:16] <LjL> GillBates: keep in mind that as long as 1) you can use the console (or at least irssi)  2) you don't remove files manually  3) you don't remove anything that belongs to ubuntu-minimal (or even ubuntu-standard just to be on the safe side) -> then there's no way you can *really* ruin your system
[02:16] <TheVault> Can someone help me?
[02:16] <wy> I tried ImageMagick, but it can only rotate images by 90 degrees. Any ideas about that?
[02:17] <dwi1> mzanfardino: mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/tst busy
[02:17] <dwi1> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/tst
[02:17] <GillBates> Thanks LjL...i will keep that inmind...
[02:17] <GillBates> ciao
[02:17] <bruenig> mwalsh, that works for me
[02:17] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  but i typed it twice
[02:17] <samalex> just curious, what GUI ftp client do you guys prefer?  I'm used to using Filezilla on Windows and Transmit on OSX, but neither of these is out for Linux.  Just curious ---
[02:17] <mwalsh> bruenig: dude soemthing in ubuntu is not working with these drives
[02:17] <Random_Transit> samalex, i use Kasablanca
[02:17] <mzanfardino> dwi1: yeah, the second time you tried to mount it again. no problem.  now type 'ls -ls /mnt/tst/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[02:18] <Random_Transit> samalex, KBear is good too
[02:18] <topgun553> Anyone know how to do dual video with 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce GO 6600 128MB Video card
[02:18] <bruenig> mwalsh, there will be a bunch of output in that command but it should work
[02:18] <topgun553> Dual monitor
[02:18] <samalex> thanks Random_Transit
[02:18] <mwalsh> bruenig: well the disc isnt burning, so its not working
[02:18] <TheVault> Hello, can someone please help me with a small problem
[02:18] <TheVault> ?
[02:18] <bruenig> mwalsh, you have the right /dev/hd?
[02:18] <mzanfardino> TheVault: !ask
[02:18] <dwi1> mzanfardino: 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3705 2007-01-23 17:16 /mnt/tst/boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:18] <Random_Transit> TheVault, what's the problem?
[02:19] <TheVault> Alright. I just completed installing Ubuntu 6.10(did a dual boot)
[02:19] <mwalsh> yes
[02:19] <mzanfardino> dwi1: ok, now we're talking.  now try 'cat /mnt/tst/boot/grub/menu.lst' and paste the results and send me the link
[02:19] <bruenig> !anyone | TheDebugger
[02:19] <ubotu> TheDebugger: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:19] <bruenig> !anyone | TheVault
[02:19] <ubotu> TheVault: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:19] <TheVault> Anyway, I downloaded the "Wireless Assistant" from the add & remove programs area because my laptop is wireless
[02:19] <mwalsh> bruenig: its telling me the iso doesnt exist.
[02:19] <TheVault> Anyway, it don't show up my wireless network in my house
[02:19] <TheVault> Any ideas on whats going on?
[02:19] <bruenig> mwalsh, you changed whatever.iso to your name right?
[02:20] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I could save/record some of the tracks on http://www.davidgilmour.com/arnoldlayne/ ? They're embeded in flash players, created by a javascript script, so I was wondering if there was a way to record my audio output or something like that. Or if I could find the origin of the sound files, that would be my key goal.
[02:20] <mwalsh> duh, but is there supposed to be an e- in front of it
[02:20] <bruenig> mwalsh, that last statement made no sense to me, there is supposed to be an e- in front of it?
[02:20] <mzanfardino> :
[02:20] <mwalsh> bruenig: nothing
[02:20] <mwalsh> bruenig: its just not working
[02:20] <TheVault> I'm not even sure if Ubuntu is picking up my Wireless Network card right now, I am connected to ethernet cable right now
[02:21] <bruenig> mwalsh, make sure you are in the right directory, and use all the right names
[02:21] <Random_Transit> TheVault, go into the system menu and then go into administration, and then click on networking
[02:21] <TheVault> Alright, going there now
[02:21] <bruenig> mwalsh, Oh I think on gnome, you can actually just right click the iso and select burn
[02:21] <TheVault> Ahh
[02:21] <TheVault> It says is not configured
[02:22] <Random_Transit> TheVault, there you go, there's your problem
[02:22] <TheVault> Ummm what kind of configurations will I be making?
[02:22] <dwi1> mzanfardino:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2703/
[02:22] <mwalsh> bruenig: yeah, but its not listing my drives when i try to do that
[02:22] <Erb> how do i begin ubuntu in the command line? (i wrecked x)
[02:22] <Random_Transit> TheVault, just telling ubuntu things like your WEP or WPA key, etc.
[02:22] <mwalsh> bruenig: under "write disc to:" my drives arent listed.
[02:22] <mzuverink> My laptop goes to screensaver and then is supposed to turn off the screen power after so long, however it goes to screen saver, turns off power and then comes back to a lit black sceen.  Anyone know the solution to keeping the screen power off?
[02:23] <TheVault> Alright, I just enabled it, now im going to see if this workds
[02:23] <TheVault> *works
[02:23] <coshx> i'm running off of the eft install cd. it sees my wireless card and loads the rt2500 module, but i'm not able to get an ip address when activating the card. can someone help me get this working?
[02:24] <Erb> how do i begin ubuntu in the command line? (i wrecked x)
[02:24] <TheVault> Random_Transit - Do I need that "Wireless Assistant" from the "Add & Remove Programs"?
[02:24] <Random_Transit> TheVault, no
[02:24] <keithhhhh> is there any easy way to delete subdirectories within a directory?
[02:24] <TheVault> Alright, Lemme mess with this and see what happens
[02:24] <Random_Transit> keithhhhh, yep
[02:24] <jrib> keithhhhh: rm -r dir/subdir   ?
[02:24] <keithhhhh> Random_Transit: so...
[02:24] <keithhhhh> Random_Transit: please
[02:25] <mzanfardino> dwi1: ok, that looks fine... so let's recap: you clearly have the HD partitioned as you might expect.  You have grub installed and pointing to what ought to be the correct image. and yet you get an error when you boot.  Can you try this: boot the machine again without the cd and write down exactly the message you get and when you get it then come back.  I have about 10 more minutes, then I...
[02:25] <mzanfardino> ...have to go...
[02:25] <pedroj> hola
[02:25] <keithhhhh> Random_Transit: oh could it be -a
[02:25] <dwi1> okay it might take about 15 mins to do all of that
[02:25] <jrib> keithhhhh: -a?  with what?
[02:25] <dwi1> ill be as quick as i can
[02:25] <agent> in thunderbird, how do i use custom mbox'es with local folders? pointing a local folder to a folder containing my mbox'es (that work in every other MUA i have tried) does not work in tb and i do not see any way to point a folder directy to an mbox file
[02:25] <dwi1> brb
[02:25] <mzanfardino> coshx: I don't know much about wireless with linux, but I'm curious: is your wireless network an open network or are you using WEP or WPA?
[02:26] <keithhhhh> jrib: rmdir ____ is to remove a directory
[02:26] <coshx> mzanfardino: it's wide open
[02:26] <LjL> keithhhhh: then why did you ask if you knew? ;)
[02:26] <keithhhhh> LjL I want to remove everything including subdirectories
[02:26] <jrib> keithhhhh: I told you how
[02:27] <agent> keithhhhh: use rm
[02:27] <LjL> keithhhhh: that's not what you asked, but that's the answer jrib gave you anyway
[02:27] <mzanfardino> coshx: ok.  just curious.  I haven't done wireless with linux yet, but I'm going to try soon... watch the thread, I think there is a wireless conversation going on now.
[02:27] <Random_Transit> keithhhhh, rm -rf /directory
[02:27] <wolfwalker> A question from me, your resident annoying newbie
[02:27] <keithhhhh> looking back
[02:27] <wolfwalker> How do you get to the ethernet port configuration?
[02:27] <Erb> What do I press when Ubuntu starts to get it to run in command line mode. I've destroyed X and need to restore it.
[02:27] <mzanfardino> wolfwalker: configured for that?  enabled? dhcp? static IP?
[02:28] <LjL> wolfwalker: from the console, /etc/network/interfaces is the file
[02:28] <mzuverink> No ones got a solution for my laptop screen power issue?
[02:28] <jrib> Erb: just let X fail and then drop to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1
[02:28] <keithhhhh> jrib: ah sorry
[02:28] <wolfwalker> dhcp, by preference
[02:28] <mzanfardino> wolfwalker: what LjL said.
[02:28] <agent> keithhhhh: man rm and you should get into a habit of writing the -rf at the end just in case you press enter at / and end up doing a rm -rf / which will delete every file on your root partition (if you have the rights, if not, then just every single file you can delete)
[02:28] <wolfwalker> console = terminal?
[02:28] <Erb> jrib: OK thanks
[02:28] <mwalsh> bruenig: still there?
[02:29] <keithhhhh> agent: ah cool
[02:29] <TheVault> Testing
[02:29] <TheVault> 1,2,3
[02:29] <keithhhhh> agent: Ill forgot about the man command
[02:29] <Random_Transit> wolfwalker, no, console = giant fluffy bunny </sarcasm>
[02:29] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[02:29] <mzanfardino> wolfwalker: the file that you would look at/edit is /etc/network/interface  You can use gedit if you like, or a terminal edito
[02:29] <keithhhhh> agent: btw what does the -rf stand for?
[02:30] <wolfwalker> Well, I didn't know. I thought maybe it was the desktop
[02:30] <two|face> recursive and force
[02:30] <TheVault> Whats the Essid?
[02:30] <keithhhhh> ah interesting
[02:30] <Random_Transit> wolfwalker, i'm just teasing
[02:30] <agent> keithhhhh: no you won't man = manual and you can man almost any program... try man tr or man ls or man rm or man rmdir or man cp, etc. heck, even man man works!
[02:30] <mzuverink> People dont know what man pages and info anymore?
[02:30] <Random_Transit> TheVault, whatever you named your network
[02:30] <LjL> wolfwalker, in the GUI of GNOME i believe it's somewhere like System / Administration / Network
[02:30] <agent> keithhhhh: -r is recursive and -f is force.... read the man page!
[02:30] <JDStone> what should be the permissions for /dev/ttyS0 (that's a zero)?
[02:31] <TheVault> Alright, Well for some reason, I think I got it configured correct, so when I pulled out my Ethernet cable, i was not connected
[02:31] <agent> keithhhhh: almost any question you may have regarding a program switch and how to use it can be answered by readin the correct man page
[02:31] <keithhhhh> agent: sorry to shock you but I havent used linux in years I forgot about the man pages
[02:31] <jrib> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 2007-01-23 02:23 /dev/ttyS0
[02:31] <LjL> JDStone: i can tell you what mine are... and they're crw-rw---- 1 root dialout
[02:31] <agent> keithhhhh: no shock :)
[02:31] <JDStone> thanks jrib and LjL
[02:32] <Random_Transit> anyone here know how to get an app to run on a specific TTY on startup?
[02:32] <keithhhhh> anyways thank you everyone that helped
[02:32] <Random_Transit> np keithhhhh
[02:32] <wolfwalker> Aaahhh, thanks LjL. Just what I needed.
[02:32] <wolfwalker> I'm still a GUI oriented user
[02:32] <keithhhhh> I log all the things Ive learned to forward onto new users
[02:32] <Random_Transit> wolfwalker, CLI is your friend
[02:32] <avalon_> Can someone help me figure out what's up with my Ubuntu box? I installed a new NIC in it. It recognizes it and runs fine if I plug it directly into the internet. However, when I try to run it through my router, I can't even get a connection light in the back, much less on the machine. What's up?
[02:32] <wolfwalker> Just getting started on Linux and I'm still kinda scared of the command prompt
[02:32] <wolfwalker> CLI?
[02:32] <wolfwalker> !CLI
[02:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:32] <CATMEAT> I'm looking for a good book/ ebook/ web page , that teach command line, with lots of examples and mabe even some excesses, I'm talk all kids stuff, I just mabe the switch from window, and I don't feel very comfortable with the under the hood stuff
[02:32] <agent> keithhhhh: logs can be helpful... now man grep and learn to grep your logs to quickly search them!! :)
[02:32] <LjL> wolfwalker: that's quite fine, but since i have KDE i am not familiar with the GNOME configuration apps, also on IRC it's often easier to give out commands or filenames...
[02:33] <wolfwalker> Right, got it
[02:33] <wolfwalker> CLI is the command prompt
[02:33] <LjL> wolfwalker: it's a term often used as opposed to GUI.
[02:33] <agent> CATMEAT: search for bash tutorial on google
[02:33] <keithhhhh> agent: grep
[02:33] <jrib> CATMEAT: see what ubotu just said.  I really like http://linuxcommand.org/ too which is linked on the wiki page
[02:33] <coshx> hmm, iwconfig shows the device, but the link quality is 0/100 and signal strength is -120 dBm. Is there a way to apt-get a more recent rt2500 driver and load it (all while still on the install cd)?
[02:33] <TheVault> Random_Transit: what kind of password should I make it? Hexadecimal or Plain(ASCII)?
[02:33] <keithhhhh> agent: man I remember now, but grep I never played with
[02:33] <agent> keithhhhh: ?
[02:34] <chalcedny> grep is kewl
[02:34] <keithhhhh> agent: always something new
[02:34] <Random_Transit> TheVault, well, what did you use for your router?
[02:34] <agent> keithhhhh: always something to make your computer do more for you :)
[02:34] <TheVault> What do you mean? I use WPA-SK
[02:34] <TheVault> if thats what your asking
[02:34] <keithhhhh> Looking for some good docs
[02:34] <Random_Transit> TheVault, then it's probably ASCII
[02:34] <TheVault> Alright, lemme try that
[02:34] <BHSPitLappy> hey all
[02:34] <mzuverink> keithhhhh, start with man pages
[02:35] <keithhhhh> mzuverink: cool
[02:35] <agent> keithhhhh: man grep! try this: grep agent /path/to/my/ubuntu/channel/log/file
[02:35] <Random_Transit> keithhhhh, man pages, then wikis
[02:35] <BHSPitLappy> my screen faded to black, for the screensaver timeout... but now it won't return. I really can't afford to restart X; please assist.
[02:35] <keithhhhh> agent: haha good point
[02:36] <TheVault> Alright, lemme try taking out my ethernet cable and see if the wireless is working...brb
[02:36] <mzuverink> keithhhhh,  get http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[02:36] <agent> yes, debian ref cards rock!
[02:36] <agent> and so does Debian :)
[02:36] <dosong> hi
[02:36] <dosong> how  to use this xchat
[02:37] <pwnguin> random question i never got around to fixing: emacs screwed up the font since edgy, i thought there was a fix for this but i cant seem to find it =/
[02:37] <arsentop> type, press enter.
[02:37] <arsentop> :p
[02:37] <keithhhhh> mzuverink: cool thanks
[02:37] <agent> pwnguin: use vi! (joking of course)
[02:37] <mzuverink> keithhhhh, np
[02:37] <jn146> anyone know how to fix "a conversation with su failed, KDE"
[02:37] <Random_Transit> dosong, it's IRC...you type and press enter.
[02:37] <pwnguin> agent: i'd sooner use gedit :P
[02:38] <mzuverink> Now that weve given keithhhhh something to play with, anyone have a solution for my above stated laptop screen power problems?
[02:38] <agent> jn146: use sudo instead of su in ubuntu
[02:38] <keithhhhh> mzuverink: hehe
[02:38] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I could save/record some of the tracks on http://www.davidgilmour.com/arnoldlayne/ ? They're embeded in flash players, created by a javascript script, so I was wondering if there was a way to record my audio output or something like that. Or if I could find the origin of the sound files, that would be my key goal.
[02:39] <matze> !nvidia
[02:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <agent> mzuverink: only if you tell me how i can use custom mbox files in thunderbird as well as have each mbox have its own smpt settings etc. like any other decent mail client :)
[02:39] <Erb> I am trying to open /etc/x11 from tty. I can get into /etc fine, but when I try to open /x11 (cd /x11) it says "no such file or directory. It won't let me open any directory under /etc and I'm logged in as root.
[02:39] <Random_Transit> hey, i'd like to get Top to run on tty1 automatically on startup...how would i go about this???
[02:39] <Gartral> im having trouble extracting 2 files
[02:39] <Jaws> Anyone know of a way to share an x session, i.e. two people control the same x session?
[02:39] <ublender> wow, might there be any way to expaon why I would be getting random segfaults in almost every app, even background ones?
[02:40] <Gartral> i cant extract two files i need for a game
[02:40] <pwnguin> pianoboy3333: i donno if it helps much but have you seen http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/
[02:41] <mzuverink> agent, i have problems with that in thunderbird too, I swithched to gnumail
[02:41] <dwid> mzanfardino: you there?
[02:41] <jrib> Gartral: more info
[02:41] <pianoboy3333> pwnguin: no that doens't help, and I have seen it
[02:41] <mzanfardino> dwid: yep
[02:42] <agent> mzuverink: your screen saver problem is very video card related... try using dpms to make sure xorg can actually do what you want
[02:42] <coshx> pianoboy3333: it should be possible to setup your alsa dmix plugin so that flash doesn't lock all of the mixers, and you can record from the stream as it's being played (some quality loss probably). i could never get it working though.
[02:42] <Erb> I am trying to open /etc/x11 from tty. I can get into /etc fine, but when I try to open /x11 (cd /x11) it says 'no such file or directory'. It won't let me open any directory under /etc and I'm logged in as root.
[02:42] <mzuverink> agent, where you get that info?
[02:42] <coshx> pianoboy3333: there's always the analog-hole
[02:42] <Gartral> im trying to use Ark to extract neverwinternights' linux client
[02:42] <agent> mzuverink: tb is pretty ridiculous i gathered... no sane mbox support and no maildir support at all
[02:42] <Gartral> and it keeps freezing
[02:42] <jrib> Erb: do you mean X11?
[02:42] <pianoboy3333> coshx: how could I do that?
[02:42] <ublender> Erb: X11, it is caps
[02:42] <coshx> pianoboy3333: i like your taste in music, btw.
[02:43] <pianoboy3333> coshx: hehe, thanks
[02:43] <agent> mzuverink: what info?
[02:43] <Erb> Oh, that's probably it. Thanks
[02:43] <Gartral> any ideas?
[02:43] <TheVault> Random_Transit: Nothing is working. is the Essid the same as the SSID?
[02:43] <coshx> pianoboy3333: the analog hole? instead of going to speakers, you plug a speakers or line out into a recording device.
[02:43] <dwid> hello?
[02:43] <Random_Transit> TheVault, yes
[02:43] <mzuverink> agent, the card issue.... gnumail.app  give it a try
[02:43] <pedroj> jj
[02:43] <pianoboy3333> coshx: oh, that's what you mean
[02:43] <TheVault> Well for some reason nothing is working
[02:43] <mzanfardino> dwid: but I have to get ina few .  what where your results?
[02:43] <dwid> mzanfardino:  it says  disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter
[02:43] <mzuverink> agent, but very ugly
[02:44] <pianoboy3333> coshx: I'm looking for trying to keep it on my computer
[02:44] <Gartral> ike, major freezing
[02:44] <pwnguin> Erb: try "cd /etc/X11" caps matter
[02:44] <agent> mzuverink: ill look into gnumail.... that info came from experience, no where specific... dpms is a utility i used years ago and somehow i remembered it
[02:44] <Erb> jrib & ublender: Even in CAPS it doesn't work
[02:44] <pwnguin> and then i recognize it was answered
[02:44] <dwid> mzanfardino: it said disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter
[02:44] <agent> mzuverink: years ago = before xorg existed :)
[02:44] <TheVault> Random_Transit:I have a black computer at the upper right of my bar and its black. When I click on it, I got 2 options. Eth0 & lo. Would that have anything to do with it?
[02:44] <ublender> o_O
[02:44] <jrib> Erb: paste your command and its output
[02:45] <mzuverink> agent, cool
[02:45] <mzanfardino> dwid: sounds like either A) the bios is not attempting to mount the HDD or B) the MBR of the HD is shot.  If you have the option to load a boot menu from the bios when you boot, you might try that and specificlaly point to your HD.
[02:45] <coshx> pianoboy3333: it might also be possible to run a line from your line out to your line in, which is basically doing the same thing.
[02:45] <mzanfardino> dwid: B) was supposed to read B )
[02:45] <Gartral> grrrr... ive been wanting to play NWN all day
[02:45] <Jaws> Anyone know of a way to share an x session, i.e. two people control the same x session?
[02:45] <Erb> OK, i've put in the whole CD command, Now it works. Thanks!
[02:45] <agent> mzuverink: "ugly" is no problem,... i have used mutt before :)
[02:45] <coshx> pianoboy3333: i never found good docs on the dmix plugin and its settings. things might be better now, but i devoted a few days to the problem about a year ago and never figured it out :(
[02:46] <mzuverink> agent, thanks, looking in to it.  If I go into services and turn off all power management the screen saver goes on, then the screen power goes off and stays off
[02:46] <dwid> mzanfardino:  how do i know if i have an option to load a boot menu
[02:46] <pianoboy3333> coshx: that's too bad...
[02:46] <pianoboy3333> coshx: I thought audacity could do this sort of thing... but I haven't figured it out yet
[02:46] <agent> mzuverink: which i find the gnumail logo funny in that sense (think mutt = dog)
[02:46] <pianoboy3333> coshx: I haven't even gotten it to use alsa playback
[02:46] <dwid> mzanfardino: so what if its A. do i need to update my bios?
[02:46] <mzanfardino> dwid:  on my machine, for instance, I can press F8 (no relation to Windows F8) at power up and I will be presented with a menu of boot devices, include USB HDD, CD, HDD, FLOPPY, and NIC
[02:46] <coshx> audacity can record from a playing stream, but flash tries to close the recording ports.
[02:47] <coshx> pianoboy3333: so you have to setup oss emulation to fool flash
[02:47] <mzuverink> agent, reenablling it and then it goes back to not working correctly
[02:47] <jrib> pianoboy3333: what do you know so far?  I'm going to try to download it too since I like it...
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> coshx: sounds complicated?
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> jrib: hehe
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> jrib: that rockfour cover is really good
[02:47] <megarlon> what install de grub in sata mbr? grub-install /dev/sda
[02:47] <dwid> ?
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> jrib: check out the airbag one too
[02:47] <megarlon> what install de grub in sata mbr? grub-install /dev/sda?
[02:47] <coshx> pianoboy3333: to me it is, but you never know, google might turn up someone's config and then it's just copy&paste
[02:47] <mzanfardino> dwid: if it's A you need to confirm that you have the HDD plugged into the right port and that the bios knows its there.  As for the boot menu, you ought to have a list of options available when you boot, one is "press <somekey> to enter setup" and if you have a boot option it might say "press F8 for boot menu" or somesuch thing.
[02:47] <agent> mzuverink: and it going off is what you want? it probably is the fault of the screen saver or gnome then :) there is good info on that on gentoo (and/or gentoo-wiki)... don't even bother with ubuntu docs just go straight to gentoo and debian ones :)
[02:48] <mzanfardino> dwid: I wouldn't be overly quick to update bios unless there is a specific reason to do so.  You can fubar your machine if you don't do it right.
[02:48] <mzanfardino> dwid: as for the drive, I'm still not sure you have it connected to the correct port, and until you can confirm that the bios sees the port you have it plugged into as the boot device it will not boot
[02:48] <agent> mzuverink: just wondering, but since you use gnustep, do you use window maker?
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> coshx: lemme first get audacity working with alsa
[02:48] <mzuverink> agent, ok, I never go to ubuntu docs first, always debian.  Going to gentoo now.  Thanks again.
[02:49] <j1p> I'm trying to run Regnum on my laptop with the intel i915 video card, I need S3TC to run it, I've read that Mesa supports S3TC with the i915, but Regnum still says I don't have it, do I have to do anything special to enable S3TC, I've already used driconf to enable it and that didnt work
[02:49] <mzuverink> agent, no, I use it in gnome
[02:49] <dwid> am i connected
[02:49] <coshx> dwid: no, try typing your password again.
[02:49] <tehsu> If everything works but I am not getting sounds, what could the problem be
[02:49] <mzuverink> agent thinking of window maker though.  I read about gnumail in Linux Magazine.
[02:50] <coshx> tehsu: could be your mixer settings? are the channes muted? (specifically pcm and master)
[02:50] <fearphage> i just had to manually build the vmxnet module for vmware tools, where does it need to go? tried /lib/module/$(uname -r)/misc and ../net. where do i find out where modprobe is looking for modules
[02:50] <tehsu> they are not muted
[02:51] <agent> mzuverink: for tidbits like xset and dpms gentoo is best for docs.... for things that are long and complicated, debian is best (they have tomes on knowledge)... for copy/pasted debian docs scattered here and there read ubuntu docs :) ok ok, so there is that sudo vs su page that is original since ubuntu is one of the only distros to use sudo for "safety"
[02:52] <mzanfardino> dwid: was that a question?
[02:52] <dwid> was what a question
[02:52] <pwnguin> agent: just watch out. the gentoo wiki page is notorious for breaking people's systems
[02:52] <dwid> oh the bios
[02:52] <dwid> yes
[02:52] <dwid> do i need to update my bios maybe?
[02:52] <mzanfardino> dwid: I'm sorry, I saw that you wrote 'am I connected"
[02:53] <packagedeliverer> how do you ls the creator of the file/dir again? -___-
[02:53] <bruenig> ls -l
[02:53] <packagedeliverer> thanks
[02:53] <agent> pwnguin: its good if you know how to use it... i used gentoo before the wiki existed :)
[02:53] <mzanfardino> dwid: as I stated before, I don't think I'd be too quick to update the bios.  You can seriously fubar your system if you screw it up
[02:53] <Codi> I .... live!
[02:53] <packagedeliverer> 4 am... not good
[02:53] <TheVault> Hello
[02:53] <relain_> i have a dell Latitude D420, it has a built in wireless card and i use ndiswrapper with the bcmwl5 driver, it works but i can't connect to my home ap which is a 2wire one with pretty basic wep encryption
[02:53] <dwid> mzanfardino:  so what do you suggest i do
[02:53] <pwnguin> agent: sounds painful ;)
[02:53] <mzanfardino> dwid: it ought to work as is.  You just need to be sure you have the drive plugged into the IDE channel that the bios recognises as a boot device
[02:54] <agent> pwnguin: and before the docs too.... when i started the docs were like 8 pages :)
[02:54] <pwnguin> heh
[02:54] <dwid> ah it doesnt make any sense
[02:54] <TheVault> Can someone help me with the Wireless Connection on Ubuntu
[02:54] <mzanfardino> dwid: you need to 1) verify the port the drive is plugged into 2) verify that your bios sees the drive (it does, we know that already) and 3) make sure that the bios see it as the boot device.
[02:54] <pwnguin> i tried it in like 2002, there was more than 8 pages i think, but they still did crap like recommend xfs
[02:54] <TheVault> I still can't connect wirelessly
[02:54] <mzanfardino> dwid: let me show you something.. one sec
[02:55] <jrib> pianoboy3333: I got it :)
[02:55] <relain_> TheVault -> what kind of card do you have / do you use ndiswrapper to get it working? what happens when you do iwconfig?
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> jrib: AH! TELL ME!
[02:55] <dwid> ok
[02:55] <Codi> Allright I've got a problem, I've set up my nvidia drivers and such, but it only lets me go to 1024x768 resolution and won't let me go to 1280x1024, yes my monitor and video card both support the resolution.
[02:55] <jrib> pianoboy3333: it's not very straight forward.  pm?
[02:55] <TheVault> I got a Dell Wireless Card
[02:55] <wolfwalker> Okay, it's the newb again
[02:55] <TheVault> and what is Iwconfig?
[02:55] <frogzoo> mzanfardino: bios updates are perfectly safe if 1) you use the right software/bios image meant for your hardware, & 2) you don't get a power cut during the update
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> jrib: sure... well coshx may want to know too
[02:55] <agent> pwnguin: i don't think they recommend xfs even now, they just say it is good for certain systems and make it an equal option... no hand holding in gentoo (well, there is a lot of hand holding now, but still less than most distros)
[02:56] <jrib> pianoboy3333, coshx: /j #jrib
[02:56] <wolfwalker> I got the modem up here (AGAIN!!!) and plugged it into my Linux computer's ethernet port
[02:56] <moparfan90> hello
[02:56] <wolfwalker> And......... nothing. The computer doesn't even recognize the connection
[02:56] <mzanfardino> frogzoo: didn't say it wasn't safe, just said you shouldn't do it unless you have a compelling reason to do so and that it can be risky for the reasons you've just stated
[02:56] <pwnguin> agent: im sure they dont recommend it anymore
[02:56] <moparfan90> whats the name of the package with the new ati drivers?
[02:56] <j1p> I'm trying to run Regnum on my laptop with the intel i915 video card, I need S3TC to run it, I've read that Mesa supports S3TC with the i915, but Regnum still says I don't have it, do I have to do anything special to enable S3TC, I've already used driconf to enable it and that didnt work
[02:56] <relain_> Codi -> did you set up the xorg.conf lines to include one for the 1280xwhatever display mode
[02:56] <wolfwalker> Took the ethernet cable accross to my Winblows computer and it fired right up. That's what I'm here on now
[02:56] <frogzoo> mzanfardino: that said, momst gamers update their mobo bioses constantly
[02:57] <wolfwalker> So how do I get my Linux computer to recognize the modem on the ethernet connection?
[02:57] <packagedeliverer> an authtest recognises my login, but a 'telnet localhost 143' won't let me login...    anyone got a clue?
[02:57] <agent> pwnguin: well, when i used gentoo they did not recommended it either, just gave it equal representation... ext3 and reiser was all the rage (before reiser4 or whatever it is called)
[02:57] <relain_> so yeah anyone had any weird problems with connecting to wep networks from certain AP's ?
[02:57] <SmAcKaSs> still having trouble with loading the install CD.... it boots and from the main menu i select "start or install" then i get the error "can't load tty; job control turned off" :::: any advice?
[02:57] <mzanfardino> dwid: when I load my bios settings, the first screen shows me a list of IDE devices attached to the machine.  It identifies them as primary master, primary slave, secondary master, and secondary slave.  You need to see how your bios id's your drive and be sure it's the primary master.... or it's equivellent
[02:57] <moparfan90> is there a how to on installing the latest ATI drivers on 6.10
[02:57] <moparfan90> amd 64
[02:58] <TheVault> I don't know what I am doing wrong. I went to System > Administration > Networking and enabled my Wireless Connection and filled out my Essid & Network Password and nothing is working. When I disconnected my Ethernet(how I am connected now at the moment) and I refresh a Firefox Page, it don't work. Any idea on why this may be?
[02:58] <Codi> relain_: no actualy, I havn't done that, how do I do so without fuxxoring the whole file and having to restore from a backup?
[02:58] <dwid> mzanfardino:  yeah it identifies the 160gig drive as the master drive
[02:58] <SmAcKaSs> still having trouble with loading the install CD.... it boots and from the main menu i select "start or install" then i get the error "can't load tty; job control turned off" :::: any advice?
[02:58] <pwnguin> agent: well when my roommate installed, it recommended xfs. when i installed they had a note explaining why reiser was great and a side note that they used to recommend xfs. about 3 months later we found out why they changed that recommendatoin.
[02:58] <frogzoo> !wifi | TheVault
[02:58] <ubotu> TheVault: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <agent> mzuverink: have you tried out enlightenment? im actually partial more to it than wm... although im still experimenting with both
[02:58] <dwid> mzanfardino:  primary master
[02:58] <agent> pwnguin: hehe
[02:59] <frogzoo> TheVault: hope that helps, some wifi setups can be a pain
[02:59] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: you connect with pppoe to your isp?
[02:59] <mzuverink> agent, not for a long time, a freind uses it and I cant stand the color scheme
[02:59] <wolfwalker> I think so
[02:59] <relain_> codi: ok so first back up xorg.conf, open terminal, cd /etc/X11, sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[02:59] <wolfwalker> It's ethernet
[02:59] <mzanfardino> dwid: ok, then you have to verify that your boot load list doesn't include a device such as a floppy that your system might try to boot from that might not have an OS.  I'd make your HDD your first boot device and see if it boots...
[03:00] <Codi> ok backing up now
[03:00] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: 'sudo pppoeconf' & you'll need your subscriber details
[03:00] <mzuverink> agent, sound lame I know, but...
[03:00] <relain_> codi: then you want to open xorg.conf and look at it, so do: sudo gedit xorg.conf (in the same terminal)
[03:00] <wolfwalker> But when I run pppoeconf it doesn't give back anything
[03:00] <dwid> mzanfardino:  the hdd is the primary boot
[03:00] <wolfwalker> Says it can't get to the modem's access concentrator
[03:00] <mzanfardino> dwid: if that doesn't work, you might try installing linux again... but if you are going to do that you might first see if anyone else in this channel can offer more help
[03:01] <knight> can anyone help me finding a good emacs tutorial for ubuntu?
[03:01] <relain_> codi: scroll down to the bit that says: Section "Screen", and you should see a bunch of ssections called subsection "Display"
[03:01] <wolfwalker> I went to networking setup in admin, but it says the ethernet connection doesn't even exist
[03:01] <dwid> mzanfardino:  maybe a different versino of linux would work
[03:01] <dwid> ?
[03:01] <Codi> bah
[03:01] <SmAcKaSs> anyone free?
[03:01] <coshx> knight: emacs isn't ubuntu-specific, so any good emacs tut should be good.
[03:01] <Codi> too much scrolling text ><
[03:01] <mzuverink> knight, vi broke or something;)
[03:01] <dwid> this would be the third time installin linux
[03:02] <mzanfardino> dwid: if it were me, I'd hook up the floppy and boot to a win98 boot disk, then run fdisk, create a small partition and install dos with system and verify that it boots.. but that's too length of discussion to have here and now, as unfortunately I have to get....
[03:02] <relain_> codi: with sub-sub-sections: Depth  (the bit depth) and modes (the resolution), so you want to go to the highest mode (like 24 on my dell) and then you should have "1024x768 800x600 640x400" or whatever
[03:02] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: my guess is that autonegotiate isn't working - install 'net-tools' - then try 'sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD eth0 ; sudo pppoeconf'
[03:02] <knight> mzuverink: ive heard a lot about emacs something like everything can be done by emacs like that
[03:02] <knight> mzuverink: so i want to try
[03:02] <relain_> codi: so just sneak in (at the front) the resolution that you want so you have: Subsection Display\n  Depth 24\  Modes "your_new_mode old_modes"\n etc
[03:02] <Codi> oh ok
[03:03] <einarro> I have to establish a VPN by two routers, can you help me?
[03:03] <wolfwalker> What?!?!
[03:03] <Codi> then close and reboot the gui?
[03:03] <relain_> codi: then save, restart x (ctr-alt-backspace) and enjoy
[03:03] <mzanfardino> dwid: well, they say "threes a charm"... but honestly I wouldn't try yet again.  I'd first want to confirm that my system can in fact boot to my hard drive... and the easiest way I can think of is the DOS method... but others here might have other suggestions
[03:03] <dwid> well ill try to figure that out
[03:03] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| what was that?
[03:03] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: does ifconfig show eth0 ?
[03:03] <Codi> thanks relain, that helps a lot
[03:03] <wolfwalker> I'm afraid I'm a newbie
[03:03] <SmAcKaSs> lol@wolfwalker
[03:03] <dwid> mzanfardino:  thanks for helping
[03:03] <relain_> codi: yup, hey if it doesn't work
[03:03] <mzanfardino> dwid: sorry we couldn't get you going man
[03:03] <wolfwalker> You want me to go to the terminal (at least I finally know where THAT is :P) and run iconfig?
[03:03] <relain_> codi: and you get dumped to like a fullscreen terminal, you need to do cd etc/X11; sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[03:04] <relain_> codi: to put back the old settings
[03:04] <AmbientMstr> Hmm
[03:04] <AmbientMstr> (18:03:54) ubotu: foo is barr
[03:04] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: yep
[03:04] <mzanfardino> dwid: I'm pretty confident that you will find it's something to do with the hardware... if it's a new drive, it might be bad.  Did you buy it at someplace like Fry's and was it an open package?  I've had bad drives from them....
[03:04] <AmbientMstr> Why did it say that out of nowhere?
[03:04] <agent> mzuverink: color scheme? you can change that easy... im very fond of the configuration ability with E17 i dont even bother with the theme for now im just testing it out how it works... window maker seemed more confined in configuration but maybe i am wrong :)
[03:04] <AmbientMstr> Hmm
[03:04] <relain_> smackass?
[03:04] <dwid> mzanfardino:  nah i got it at best buy bran new
[03:04] <wolfwalker> iconfig: command not found
[03:04] <relain_> can i help?
[03:04] <SmAcKaSs> sweet, yes you can
[03:04] <kitche> wolfwalker: try ifconfig
[03:04] <SmAcKaSs> Version 6.10 -- still having trouble with loading the install CD.... it boots and from the main menu i select "start or install" then i get the error "can't load tty; job control turned off" :::: any advice?
[03:04] <AmbientMstr> Question: Should I install Linux on my external HD or back my files on it?
[03:05] <wolfwalker> It seems to be up
[03:05] <arsentop> id put your files on the external drive, AmbientMstr, and install on your internal :p if you really want to.
[03:05] <wolfwalker> Gave me something on eth0 and lo
[03:05] <packagedeliverer> anyone familiar with horde here?
[03:05] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: k, now 'dpkg -l net-tools'
[03:05] <AmbientMstr> Well, I burned image to disk already
[03:05] <AmbientMstr> But
[03:05] <mzanfardino> dwid: hmmm... see if someone here can talk you through a quick CLI install (when you boot to live CD I don't remember if it's an option).  It won't take as long as the full blown install and you'll have your answer much quicker.  I'd try a different os like dos just to rule out some quirky issue with linux
[03:05] <AmbientMstr> The install isn't working
[03:05] <relain_> smackass: that's kind of beyond me, i've never had that happen before, you might want to reburn the disk (i've had funny  things happen with bad install disks), hmm otherwise are there any more errors than that?
[03:05] <Shaba1> hey folks
[03:06] <AmbientMstr> It says I/O Warning: Boot disk cannot be read
[03:06] <AmbientMstr> And I checked it out, everything else on it works fine
[03:06] <wolfwalker> I have net tools, I can access that through the dropdown gui
[03:06] <wolfwalker> System>Net Tools
[03:06] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: already did... confirm for me real quick though that the Downloads section on unbuntu.com (under newest version) that is a full copy, no?
[03:06] <dwid> okay
[03:06] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: k, try 'sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:06] <dwid> anyone in here know how to do a quick cli install?
[03:06] <mzanfardino> dwid: good luck
[03:06] <wolfwalker> System>Administration>network tools
[03:07] <dwid> mzanfardino:  thank you
[03:07] <packagedeliverer> sudo answer-question "anyone knows how to config horde?"
[03:07] <wolfwalker> No link
[03:07] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: please paste the whole line
[03:07] <wolfwalker> But then, I have the ethernet cable on THIS computer (Winblows) right now so I can talk to you
[03:07] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: please paste the whole line
[03:07] <relain_> smackass: yeah that should be, ok so perhaps it's some other problem. what kind of system / computer are you using?
[03:07] <wolfwalker> It just says "eth0: no link"
[03:07] <Shaba1> I asked this question before
[03:07] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD eth0
[03:08] <Shaba1> but here it goes again
[03:08] <Shaba1> I have 10.8 gb left on my HD.
[03:08] <Shaba1> I have to have windows and space for saving other windows thing
[03:08] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: self built Core 2 on an intel board, one gig of ram... XP and Vista were being dual-booted, and then i deleted Vista's partition [thinking that might have been hindering it] 
[03:08] <AmbientMstr> Mh
[03:08] <AmbientMstr> *Mhm
[03:09] <j1p> Hi, I see that Mesa supports S3TC in my graphics card (i915) from this page, http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/dri_experimental/s3tc_index.html, is there any easy way to install/enable this on ubuntu?
[03:09] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| it didn't do anything
[03:09] <Shaba1> how much space would someone reccomend I make the linux partion
[03:09] <crxyem> what's the benefit of using the dvd vs cd source for installing kubuntu ?? other than the obvious that the dvd is 3.9gb
[03:09] <wolfwalker> Nothing at all
[03:09] <wolfwalker> |Shaba1:| for the last time: burn off an iso disk and run off the live disk.
[03:09] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: try again 'sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:09] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: can you boot your computer off other boot-disks ok?
[03:09] <crxyem> Shaba, just your root partition oh 6Gb
[03:10] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: oh yes, no problem there.
[03:10] <SmAcKaSs> realain_: I have the chance to use comand line after the error, do you kno if there is a disk editor on the cd?
[03:10] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: and i mean, did you compare the checksum of the download against the sig
[03:10] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 10Mbit, full duplex, no link"
[03:10] <shadowhywind> Is anyone around that could help me with my vpn. I have my server and client connect. But i am trying to use the internet on the server side to surf with on the client side. any ideas?
[03:10] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: did the modem come with a cable?
[03:10] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| yup.
[03:10] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: oh so it doese boot to some extent
[03:10] <SmAcKaSs> yes
[03:10] <crxyem> Shaba1 my root and home partitions combined are about 7.5-8GB
[03:10] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| that's what I had connected to the Linux computer while I ran pppoeconf
[03:11] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: its when there is the loading screen
[03:11] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: and you're using that cable, and the cable plugs into eth0 straight to the modem?
[03:11] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Yup
[03:11] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: what about if you do dmesg, or tail /var/log/syslog does it say anything interesting
[03:11] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: and the modem's on?
[03:11] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: i can go try and report back :)
[03:11] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Yup
[03:11] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: you might wanna ask someone smarter? i've never been very stuck with booting up live disks before
[03:11] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: do you know if the modem support 100BT ?
[03:12] <padlefot> yey
[03:12] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Haven't a clue. Don't even know what that is
[03:12] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: so its a live disk?! i would rather an install disk...
[03:12] <Flappity> :\
[03:12] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: well usually it boots the live disk into gnome, and you can play around and if you like you can then do a very nice GUI install
[03:13] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: sudo mii-tool -v eth0 | grep capab
[03:13] <kitche> SmAcKaSs: there is an alternate cd also to just install
[03:13] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: can i get a install version of 6.10?
[03:13] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: yeah you could try the alt cd image, it will install version 6.10
[03:13] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: where is that found, if i may ask.
[03:14] <wolfwalker> "capabilities: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD"
[03:14] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: hold on, you don't have a 64bit processsor do you?
[03:14] <Bob535> Anyone know why pressing "Delete" or any of the Arrow keys on my keyboard pops up the Take a Screenshot function in Ubuntu?
[03:14] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: and where are you located?
[03:14] <SmAcKaSs> no. its core 2 e6300, non-oc
[03:14] <Flappity> Is anyone here able to help me with beryl? #beryl and #ubuntu-xgl aren't helping
[03:15] <wolfwalker> Problem, as far as I can see, is that this Netopia Modem won't recognize my computer
[03:15] <Bob535> Whats wrong flappity?
[03:15] <relain_> Bob535: you can change the binding in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[03:15] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: we just need to get your nic to talk to the modem: try 'sudo mii-tool -A eth0 ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:15] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[03:15] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: sorry, try 'sudo mii-tool -R eth0 ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:15] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: you've been a great deal of help. thank you!
[03:16] <Flappity> Well, when I run beryl-manager, the desktop loses about 400 pixels, which turn white - the system tray is cut off with this too, so I can't do anything - title bars of programs disappear when maximized too
[03:16] <Flappity> 400 pixels on the right
[03:16] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: is the page, select a mirror for your location and then go 'other install options' then you get another page and then you can finally download the image (or join a torrent) for the one you wan (the alt install disk)
[03:16] <minerale> hi, quick question, what does $ command <> namedfifopipe  do?  I know that command < something redirects input and > redirects output, but what does <> do ?
[03:16] <MattDaemon> who knows of a good channel where I can talk to people about buying a laptop that I want to run linux on?
[03:16] <wolfwalker> "Invalid media specification 'eth0'"
[03:16] <Bob535> Flappity, the fix for that is in the FAQ
[03:16] <Bob535> let me get you the link
[03:16] <Flappity> Really? I didn't see that
[03:16] <Flappity> Thanks
[03:16] <frogzoo> !hardware | MattDaemon
[03:16] <ubotu> MattDaemon: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:16] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 10 Mbit, full duplex, no link"
[03:17] <MattDaemon> thanks |frogzoo
[03:17] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: you've been a great deal of help. thank you!
[03:17] <wolfwalker> !botsnack
[03:17] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: np
[03:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:17] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: sorry, try 'sudo mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0 ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:17] <Bob535> Nvidia card right flappity?
[03:17] <relain_> aska: who's the bot here?
[03:17] <Flappity> No, ATI
[03:17] <Shaba1> thanks guys
[03:17] <bronze_0_1> me!
[03:17] <Bob535> Hmmmm
[03:17] <bronze_0_1> Ubotu
[03:17] <Shaba1> I have got a lot of good reccomendation
[03:18] <frogzoo> !anything
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Shaba1> I think I will make it aobut 6gb combined root and home.
[03:18] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 10 Mbit, full duplex, no link"
[03:18] <Bob535> owell, try these steps anyways http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[03:18] <wolfwalker> Whoops!
[03:18] <relain_> ! relain  | wireless
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Bob535> Content Item 3
[03:18] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 100 Mbit, full duplex, no link"
[03:18] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: kk
[03:18] <Shaba1> that will leave me about 4gb for windwos
[03:18] <LjL> !botabuse
[03:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:18] <relain_> !wireless | relain
[03:18] <ubotu> relain: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <relain_> sorry i'm not trying to be mean to you ubotu!
[03:19] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: hmm... you're not using a hub between pc & modem?
[03:19] <wolfwalker> Hey, what's wrong with using the bots? Saves us carpal tunnel syndrome
[03:19] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| nope
[03:19] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: kk, we'll persevere
[03:19] <Flappity> Hmm, that page seems to assume you have XGL installed, instead of aiglx
[03:19] <Lukian> Since the last Xorg update, Xorg has been periodically spiking to 100% CPU usage and causing lock-ups, how can I backdate Xorg to an earlier version or fix this issue?
[03:19] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: try 'sudo mii-tool -F 100baseTx-HD eth0 ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:19] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Yeah, I was just about to thank you for your patience
[03:19] <Shaba1> now one more question
[03:20] <Bob535> Flappity, I have aiglx, and it fixed the problem for me
[03:20] <Flappity> I might try installing XGL then
[03:20] <Shaba1> LILO or grub?
[03:20] <Flappity> Hum, really?
[03:20] <Flappity> K
[03:20] <Flappity> I'll try then
[03:20] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 100 Mbit, half duplex, no link"
[03:20] <Bob535> backup the conf file, its always worth a shot
[03:20] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: try 'sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-HD eth0 ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:20] <Shaba1> and IF I resize the linux partition later to get back ALL the linux HD SPACE how do I get back the standard windows MBR?
[03:21] <jrib> Shaba1: fixmbr with the windows install disk, "recovery console" I think is what they call it
[03:21] <Flappity> Yeah
[03:21] <wolfwalker> "eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link"
[03:21] <Flappity> Well the only step that applies to me is.. remove Load "dri" under modules
[03:21] <agent> mzuverink: what mailbox types does gnumail support? i cannot find info on this on the gnumail website
[03:21] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| I did mention the ethernet cable is NOT hooked to my Linux computer right now
[03:21] <Flappity> The rest deal with nvidia stuff
[03:21] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: turn the modem off & back on, then 'sudo mii-tool -R ; sudo mii-tool eth0'
[03:21] <wolfwalker> I need it on this Winblows computer to talk to you
[03:22] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: ummm how's this supposed to work o.O
[03:22] <Shaba1> jrib are you sure
[03:22] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| I was going to ask you that
[03:22] <Lukian> Please assist before it locks up again :/
[03:22] <Livedifferent> If I were to get rid of GRUB, how would I do it? Without a floppy or Windows Install CD?
[03:22] <Shaba1> I hate to aske it that way but I use this laptop for work and cannot afford to lose stuff
[03:22] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| I didn't even know what we were doing
[03:22] <Flappity> And I don't know if that's going to fix it.. I"ll try and come back
[03:22] <Flappity> brb
[03:22] <jrib> Shaba1: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx?mfr=true
[03:22] <rmorris85> im trying in install the gimmie gnomebar applet and when I try to ./configure it says "No package 'pygtk-2.0' found No package 'pygobject-2.0' found No package 'gnome-python-desktop-2.0' found" and I can't get anyfurther
[03:22] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: do you know about ethernet autoneg?
[03:23] <Livedifferent> !grub
[03:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:23] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Nope, not a thing
[03:23] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| But I found the network settings
[03:23] <padlefot> i tried using gnome for a few days, but KDE still is better
[03:23] <padlefot> :-)
[03:23] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: you have to negotiate at the right speed & "duplex" setting or sometimes autonegotiate works properly
[03:23] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| And they all say no ethernet connection when I have the modem connected
[03:24] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: it's easiest for me to help doing this through cli
[03:24] <wolfwalker> Well I have all these settings typed in now
[03:24] <Shaba1> I mean I need all my windows data and programs to stay as they are but would like to try out unbuntu. and YES I have 5 livecds
[03:24] <wolfwalker> I can just cycle through them (with the modem connected) and get whichever one works
[03:24] <wolfwalker> Right?
[03:24] <mzuverink> agent, pop3, imap unix spools
[03:24] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: plug in the modem, then try 'sudo mii-tool -R eth0 ; sudo pppoeconfig'
[03:24] <mzuverink> agent, *and unix spools
[03:24] <wolfwalker> Okay, but that means I'll leave here
[03:25] <dwid> does anyone know how to do a quick CLI install
[03:25] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: if that doesn't work, try 'sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD eth0 ; sudo pppoeconfig'
[03:25] <Shaba1> I think it just runs faster from the HD. And I have HEARD that I can access windows data files on the windows partiion from within ubuntu
[03:25] <Bob535> Okay, for some reason my delete, home, end, page up and down and arrow keys all act like they are a "print" button and never function in their actual manners, any ideas?
[03:25] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: I don't see any easy way to debug this through irc, give it a shot
[03:25] <wolfwalker> |Shaba1:| Yes, it will work faster if installed on the hard drive
[03:25] <mzuverink> agent go to expert then click advanced for more settings options like maildir
[03:25] <wolfwalker> And yes, you can access the Winblows partitions, but you'll have to mount them first
[03:26] <agent> mzuverink: and custom mbox files i take it, right? (to me a spool is an mbox in  /var/spool/username)
[03:26] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Nope, not with only one net connection :)
[03:26] <mzuverink> agent, yes
[03:26] <Shaba1> np wolfwalker
[03:26] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Thanks for your patience
[03:26] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: kk, gl
[03:26] <Bob535> Nm, I fixed it
[03:26] <agent> mzuverink: did you have to install half of gnustep and about 30mb of packages to install gnumail? to me that sounds like, well, bloat :)
[03:27] <mzuverink> agent, 18 files total I think
[03:27] <mzuverink> agent, 19
[03:27] <dwid> does anyone know how to do a quick CLI install
[03:27] <mzuverink> agent, gnustep stuff
[03:27] <kelsin> dwid: you can use the alternate cd and choose the "server" option
[03:27] <agent> mzuverink: yep, 19 and 25.7mb worth :)
[03:27] <SmAcKaSs> Is the 6.06 upgradable with out a fresh install? (explaination: version 6.10 cd is not working [on install]  for me)
[03:28] <eugman> Anyone know if py2exe is installed by default?
[03:28] <dwid> thanks
[03:28] <jrib> !upgrade | SmAcKaSs
[03:28] <ubotu> SmAcKaSs: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:28] <Flappity> Garr
[03:28] <agent> mzuverink: and you run it under gnome?
[03:28] <Flappity> Where'd bob go
[03:28] <SmAcKaSs> !upgrade
[03:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:28] <mzuverink> agent, yes
[03:28] <agent> mzuverink: interesting ;)
[03:28] <mzuverink> agent, bbl, after state of the union
[03:29] <Flappity> This obviously won't work..
[03:29] <agent> mzuverink: ok, i won't be on then so before you go: thank you for all your help and gnumail suggestion.... ill give it a try :) i will also give window maker more time :P
[03:30] <relain_> argh i can connect to my linksys router but not to my 2wire (much faster) router
[03:30] <relain_> frustration!
[03:30] <adamonline45> Any advice for setting up a dhcp server behind a dhcp router, so I can get everything working before deploying it to the rest of the house? I've tried once before, and it was a headache!
[03:30] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: its ok
[03:30] <SmAcKaSs> just breath
[03:30] <fearphage> where do i put the vmxnet module for ubuntu to recognize it?
[03:30] <Flappity> :\
[03:30] <mzuverink> agent, np
[03:30] <exs_> guys, I need a really good CSS / XHTML editor. Anyone know of any? (like a real time thingy) Cheers!
[03:30] <SmAcKaSs> relain_: at least your not getting errors no one has ever heard of
[03:31] <relain_> exs_: vim!
[03:31] <juano_> anyone help me with samba?
[03:31] <juano_> i cant make a windows machine connect fine  with an ubuntu machine, they connect fine both machines browse the network , except after 30 minutes or so in windows i only see my pc in the network neighborhood and in ubuntu i cant browse hte network at all, except i can always do \\linuxpcname from windows and \\windowspcname from linux and browse fine. the problem is in network places, after 30 minutes icons wont appear
[03:31] <relain_> SmAcKaSs: true, but i mean it should work, my laptop works with EVERY other router
[03:31] <mzuverink> exs_, ALL HAIL VIM!
[03:31] <exs_> relain_:  thanks, I'll check it out
[03:31] <SmAcKaSs> :-p
[03:31] <Lukian> Exs_: NVU
[03:31] <SmAcKaSs> bbl
[03:31] <SmAcKaSs> trying old 6.06...
[03:32] <relain_> exs_:  do take a little time to make a decent .vimrc file it'll be nicer, there's tonnes and tonnes of info about vim, it's a hoot!
[03:32] <MusKuS> Hi
[03:32] <exs_> relain_ what's a .vimrc file!?
[03:32] <adamonline45> juano_: I've got something like that happening, intermittently.  I can access the ubuntu machine if I click 'view workgroup computers'
[03:33] <wolfwalker> It's me again, the ubuntu help chatter's worst nightmare!
[03:33] <wolfwalker> frogzoo, no avail
[03:33] <MusKuS> What is the level of compatibility for Digital Cameras in Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:33] <wolfwalker> All tries, no link
[03:33] <fearphage> where do i put the vmxnet module for ubuntu to recognize it? i had to manually build the module for vmware tools. it says copy 'vmxnet.o' to /libs/module/$(uname -r)/net and i did that but modprob says it can't find it. tried depmod -a and still nothing
[03:33] <wolfwalker> |MusKuS:| it depends on the brand, mostly
[03:33] <wolfwalker> !digital camera
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digital camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <relain_> MusKuS: what kind of level do you want? probably fine for just pluggin in and transferring the pictures
[03:33] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: this modem works on windows?
[03:33] <wolfwalker> !camera
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| yup
[03:34] <relain_> MusKuS: that fancy tethered shooting thing that pro-photogs do, probably not
[03:34] <juano_> adamonline45: you mean you cant... right? or CAN?
[03:34] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Worked fine, no config or anything. Launched a browser, it redirected me automatically to the Centurytel (my ISP's) login page
[03:35] <wolfwalker> But it WILL NOT recognize a link to my Linux computer
[03:35] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: getting a link is kind of fundamental
[03:35] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: you tried both -R, & -F 10baseT-FD ?
[03:35] <wolfwalker> Tried what?
[03:35] <adamonline45> juano_: I can.  I can't see ubuntu_machine in the network neighborhood, but if I go to 'view workgroup computers' I can click through View Workgroup Computers > Windows Network > MSHOME > ubuntu_machine
[03:36] <wolfwalker> Same commands, but change R to F?
[03:36] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: sudo mii-tool -R eth0    & sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD ?
[03:36] <adamonline45> juano_: or something of that nature... works okay enough for me that I'm not tripping.  I'm out the door though, so good luck!
[03:36] <juano_> adamonline45: ahh i see, well thanks anyway, yea i can go in through \\pcname
[03:37] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: does the modem have a light on it that lights up when it connects?
[03:37] <juano_> adamonline45: after 30 minutes, cause first 30 minutes everything seems ok
[03:37] <wolfwalker> Yup
[03:37] <wolfwalker> And it's lit
[03:37] <wolfwalker> And it's lit when it's connected to my Linux computer
[03:37] <snide> hey whats the channel for offtopic?
[03:37] <snide> ubuntu's off topic channel
[03:38] <snide> i forgot to add it to auto join
[03:38] <wolfwalker> snide, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <relain_> snide:  try >> /dev/nul
[03:38] <skirk> hi all
[03:38] <snide> thanks!
[03:38] <dm> Anyone here know how to make beryl run GTK as the window decorator
[03:38] <packagedeliverer> how do you tar a bunch of files?
[03:39] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| so I switch back again and try that sudo mii-tool -R eth0?
[03:39] <kelsin> packagedeliverer: tar -cf <something.tar.gz> <files to add>
[03:39] <packagedeliverer> ok thanks
[03:39] <wolfwalker> And then sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD?
[03:39] <kelsin> packagedeliverer: or in nautilus group select and right click and select create archive
[03:40] <skirk> Anyone know the command for colors the shell?
[03:40] <relain_> anyone know much about using iwconfig
[03:40] <adamonline45> juano_: Nah, it works any time...  The computers disappearing from network neighborhood is intermitten, some winbox boots it works, others it doesn't...
[03:40] <packagedeliverer> it's on a fresh lts lamp install so no gui, thanks again
[03:40] <relain_> adamonline45: you might want to look at some of the options in smb.conf, i had this kind of problem once and i found something that made my comptuer into like a local samba server?
[03:40] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: better idea, I'll find you a link to a guid you can use
[03:41] <Spasticteapot> On my PC, frostwire won't work, even though I (after I installed it) added the JRE.
[03:41] <Spasticteapot> hy not?
[03:41] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| I followed the DSL guide on ubuntu. It just gave me pppoeconf
[03:41] <adamonline45> relain_: Thank you, it's juano's issue tho :)  Bye Juano, good luck!
[03:41] <Slackwise> Spasticteapot: Launch it from a terminal window to see any error messages it outputs.
[03:42] <nekocodi> Ahhh, thanks for the help you gave me guys. I got my resolution problem fixed.
[03:42] <HymnToLife> Spasticteapot, IIRC, you neet to modify the Frostwire startup script to make it run in Ubuntu
[03:42] <MusKuS> The question is:
[03:42] <HymnToLife> !frostwire
[03:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:42] <HymnToLife> need*
[03:42] <wolfwalker> Yea, verily. But does it interface with Limewire?
[03:43] <skirk> anyone know the command for color the shell like COLOR 01????
[03:43] <MusKuS> I have a Canon PowerShot A420 and when i want to download the photos from F-Spot it said: It cant reclaim the USB device
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> .
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> rOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:43] <Slackwise> "interface with"? I think you mean does it use the Gnutella network? Then yes, it does.
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> Oh, fark..sorry about that.
[03:43] <MusKuS> It used to work with 6.06 LTS and now with 6.10 it stop working
[03:43] <wolfwalker> .................
[03:43] <Spasticteapot> Still getting the hang of the Ubuntu keyboard shortcuts.
[03:44] <Spasticteapot> Well, GNUnet just won't install period - it says it needs libcurl, which I've downloaded. Twice.
[03:44] <dm> Anyone here know how to make beryl run GTK as the window decorator
[03:44] <MusKuS> Whats going on with this ?
[03:44] <exs_> I really want to learn CSS + XHTML ( I know some html ).. Is there any easy to follow tutorial?
[03:44] <MusKuS> wolfwalker
[03:44] <Spasticteapot> wolfwalker: I'm on my 3rd day of Linux usage, so yes, I'm a bit of a newbie.
[03:45] <MusKuS> relain_
[03:45] <wolfwalker> |Spasticteapot:| join the club. I can't even get my Linux computer connected to the net
[03:45] <AmbientMstr> :|
[03:45] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, are you using wireless?
[03:45] <AmbientMstr> Hah, you're a noob
[03:45] <wolfwalker> |Spasticteapot:| so don't worry, we're all in the same boat. I was just a'picking
[03:45] <AmbientMstr> Lol
[03:45] <AmbientMstr> ...Oh wait, a second
[03:45] <SmAcKaSs> is anyone here good enough to lead me through a Text-based install? after reading some forums, this should be a quick fix
[03:45] <wolfwalker> |cablesm102:| Nope, DSL modem with an ethernet cable between modem and computer
[03:46] <cablesm102> ethernet seems like it should work...
[03:46] <HymnToLife> SmAcKaSs, just ask any question you have, we'll thel the best we can
[03:46] <relain_> i'm a noob!
[03:46] <wolfwalker> Can't get the modem to recognize the computer
[03:46] <Spasticteapot> wolfwalker:  that should'nt be too bad, unless you've got some sort of weirdo non-router-like modem.
[03:46] <wolfwalker> Or vice versa........
[03:46] <Gartral> im trying to use Ark to extract neverwinternights' linux client, but it keeps crashing ark
[03:46] <wolfwalker> |Spasticteapot:| It's a Netopia, if that tells you anything
[03:46] <Spasticteapot> I'd just get a good old fashioned ethernet router (about $10), and let it do the work for you.
[03:46] <CanadianMan> i have a question, when i do 'irw' i get another command prompt but if i do 'sudo lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/event0' and then irw i get flooded with newlines is this my remote working? i can't see any codes when i press buttons
[03:46] <Gartral> and all the other package managers...
[03:46] <HymnToLife> Gartral, certainly because it's a large archive, use the command line
[03:46] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, have you tried configuring with PPPoE?
[03:47] <Spasticteapot> wolfwalker: Netopia sounds like yet another cheap, crappy brand of DSL router.
[03:47] <Gartral> ok, whats the command
[03:47] <nekocodi> Allright second and last question: How do I mount my NTFS partition so it shows up and is accessable (Not write just read that's all I need) for linux?
[03:47] <wolfwalker> |cablesm102:| First thing I tried. Said it couldn't get the access concentrator on the modem
[03:47] <frogzoo> Spasticteapot: yes, but the modem works under doze
[03:47] <HymnToLife> Gartral, IIRC, it's a .tgz archive so   tar xzvf filename.tgz
[03:47] <kelsin> Gartra
[03:47] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: couldn'
[03:47] <SmAcKaSs> Hymn: i talked with relain for a while. here is a brief recap: installing live cd or alt cd of 6.10 -- boot to main screen; select start/install; loading screen...... ERROR: "can't access tty; job control turned off"
[03:47] <kelsin> I did with it tar commandline items like in the nwn forums
[03:47] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, you might be able to get a different modem from your ISP. Some have more than one model available
[03:47] <kelsin> (sorry for the badly placed enter)
[03:47] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: couldn't find anything that looks helpful
[03:47] <kitche> HymnToLife: you can just use tar -xvf now with tar
[03:48] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Thanks for your help. Now looking into routers.
[03:48] <HymnToLife> kitche, yes, I'm just the old-fashionet type :p
[03:48] <HymnToLife> fashioned*
[03:48] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| So how does it work? Just configure the router through my Winblows computer and then connect an ethernet cable from the router to my Linux computer?
[03:48] <wolfwalker> And that's it?
[03:48] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: overkill at the moment, this is something simple to fix, but your setup makes it difficult
[03:48] <mzuverink> nekocodi, http://easylinux.info  ubuntu section, then find the ntfs section, but I would not try writing to ntfs
[03:48] <Gartral> its still using ark
[03:49] <HymnToLife> SmAcKaSs, this seems quite a common problem but I don't know how to solve it, try searching the !forums or !google
[03:49] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: but this isn't a router, it's a modem, right?
[03:49] <SmAcKaSs> Hymn: i have.... so what might you suggest?
[03:49] <topgun553> Anyone know how to do dual montior video with 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce GO 6600 128MB Video card
[03:49] <wolfwalker> Yup, but someone else said if I get a router it should handle the interface for me
[03:49] <Spasticteapot> Xinerama?
[03:49] <HymnToLife> Gartral, open a Konsole, browse to the dir you saved your archive in and run the command
[03:49] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, just get a router and connect it to the modem. Most routers can connect to a linux box, and most routers can connect to a DSL modem
[03:49] <wolfwalker> And then I'd be able to just plug the computer to the router and bingo!
[03:50] <Gartral> ohh, use the dir command
[03:50] <SmAcKaSs> Hymn: text based install worked for most forum kiddies.
[03:50] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: What kind of laptop do you have?
[03:50] <wolfwalker> Do I have to get a router that is specifically stated as Linux compatible?
[03:50] <shadowhywind> anyone around that can help with vpn?
[03:50] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: this should just work anyway, no need for extra gear
[03:50] <HymnToLife> SmAcKaSs, I can't help you with this so wait for someone else I guess, or post in the forums
[03:50] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, an Asus
[03:50] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Yeah, I know............ should
[03:50] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, most should. I use a WRT54G.
[03:50] <SmAcKaSs> Hymn: ty
[03:50] <kitche> wolfwalker: routers are OS-Independent
[03:50] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Good stuff.
[03:50] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| So how does it work? Just configure the router through my Winblows computer and then connect an ethernet cable from the router to my Linux computer?
[03:50] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, it was at one time... its tel(R) Pentium(R) M Processor 760 @ 2.0GHz 533FSB 2MB Cache
[03:50] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: A71?
[03:51] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, most routers are configured through an HTTP interface
[03:51] <mcquaid> hello, i installed ubuntu, and then xp, then i rewrote grub so i can get into ubuntu again
[03:51] <cablesm102> so you can set it up on linux
[03:51] <mzuverink> SmAcKaSs, I used to have that problem too.  I fixed it by dl'ng a server install or alternate version and then installing only the cli.  make sure you are not using a rw disk
[03:51] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: I have a Pentium M at 1ghz, 512mb of RAM, and gaphics so awful I don't like thinking about them.
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !grub | mcquaid
[03:51] <ubotu> mcquaid: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:51] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| You're the one who told me what commands to input. Did one of those tell us that the ethernet jack was actually working?
[03:51] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Or do I have a bad ethernet card?
[03:51] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, it was top of the line when I got it :/
[03:51] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Besides, you're not going to be gaming much under linux, anyway.
[03:51] <mcquaid> but there is no entry for windows, i made an entry but it won't boot
[03:52] <mzuverink> SmAcKaSs, Are you trying with a RW disk or CDR?
[03:52] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: everything reported link down, which says the ethernet wasn't working
[03:52] <mcquaid> i noticed in gparted that the windows partition isn't set with the boot flag, is that necessary?
[03:52] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, yeah i just would like my dual montior set up
[03:52] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Well, my laptop weighs only 2.7 lbs. That'll never go out of style!
[03:52] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Well it wasn't connected to anything
[03:52] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, haha mine is like a desktop
[03:52] <sarah> mine ways bout 1.6...
[03:52] <wolfwalker> |Spasticteapot:| Yeah, ut the hardware might get a bit slow.............
[03:52] <wastrel> I have Ubunto Edge
[03:52] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Download Xinerama and the appropriate Linux Nvidia drivers.
[03:52] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu* Edgy*
[03:53] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| So is there any way to be sure it's not my ethernet card going bad?
[03:53] <cablesm102> Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of Democracy Player .9.2 for Edgy? They only have them for Dapper on their site, and that isn't working for me, and the repos only have .8
[03:53] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: I ran UT2004 on a a PC much slower. Stop whining.
[03:53] <Spasticteapot> 'Course, I'm ugrading to a new desktop as soon as the price on the 8800 drops.
[03:53] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, haha well at least your printer probably works
[03:53] <garryb> heh
[03:53] <wolfwalker> Ooooh, burn!
[03:53] <garryb> my desktop weights half a pound
[03:53] <bryan[c1] > when i try to install ubuntu, the installation freezes :( any suggestions?
[03:53] <garryb> beat that
[03:53] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: No, it does'nt. My printer jams two out of three pages.
[03:54] <HymnToLife> bryan[c1] , please be more precise, when does it freeze ?
[03:54] <cablesm102> bryan[c1] , at what point does it freeze?
[03:54] <Spasticteapot> garryb: Yes, but Nano-ITX boards are sloooow.
[03:54] <wolfwalker> |bryan[c1] :| where exactly does it freeze?
[03:54] <bryan[c1] > wow lol
[03:54] <wolfwalker> Wow, all of us on the same track
[03:54] <cablesm102> hah, great minds think alike :)(
[03:54] <garryb> i only use it to play space invaders
[03:54] <wolfwalker> Twizted minds think alike
[03:54] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, ubuntu won't allow me to print at all, after about a month i now get it to print draft black and white
[03:54] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| So is there any way to be sure it's not my ethernet card going bad?
[03:54] <bryan[c1] > well
[03:54] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Go buy a great big 'ol HP laser printer.
[03:55] <mcquaid> does a windows partition need to have the boot flag set to be bootable by grub?
[03:55] <Spasticteapot> You can get one for $30, driver support rocks, and a $80 toner cartridge will last you half a decade.
[03:55] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, plug it in to someone else's ethernet. Preferably someone who you don't know. Break in.
[03:55] <HymnToLife> mcquaid, no
[03:55] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, more likely i will problably just go back to w-i-n-d-o-w-s xp
[03:55] <cablesm102> All HP printers pretty much have good linux drivers
[03:55] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: What kind of printer do you have?
[03:55] <mcquaid> hmm, i didn't think so
[03:55] <wolfwalker> |cablesm102:| ha
[03:55] <wolfwalker> ha
[03:55] <cablesm102> topgun553, giving up so easy?
[03:55] <wolfwalker> ha.............
[03:55] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, Canon Mp130
[03:55] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: If you've got a Cannon, you're SOL.
[03:55] <bryan[c1] > it goes through the first installation step where it still shows the "UBUNTU" logo on top and says "configuring keyboard" etc. but then it goes to a text screen where it keeps oking what seems to be hardware drivers and hardware, then it just freezes.
[03:55] <HymnToLife> mcquaid, not 100% sure here, but if it doesn't work, just add the flag
[03:55] <topgun553> cablesm102, i have tried this for a month
[03:55] <mcquaid> my entry looks fine, the only other issue it could be is my windows partition is contained in a logical part
[03:56] <cablesm102> topgun553, I have an mp510. No driver for me either
[03:56] <wolfwalker> |bryan[c1] :| how much ram do you have in this computer?
[03:56] <bryan[c1] > 256
[03:56] <topgun553> cablesm102, i love a lot of it, but I need windows
[03:56] <cablesm102> ha!
[03:56] <Spasticteapot> topgun553:  Laser printers cost an itsy-bitsy fraction of as much for ink.
[03:56] <wolfwalker> And what size hard drive?
[03:56] <HymnToLife> that is more likely to be the problem indeed
[03:56] <cablesm102> there's the problem!
[03:56] <cablesm102> 256
[03:56] <wolfwalker> And how full is this hard drive?
[03:56] <mcquaid> it's hda5 contained in hda2, so i put root            (hd0,4)
[03:56] <ulu> bona nit
[03:56] <topgun553> cablesm102, I could get your printer to print black and white if you want probably
[03:56] <mcquaid> but i'm wondering if i have to put the logical container hda2
[03:56] <ulu> i've a problem..
[03:56] <Spasticteapot> cablesm: Less than 384mb is not enough, unless you're running Xubuntu or Fluxbox.
[03:56] <bryan[c1] > it says ubuntu can be run off 128MB of ram...
[03:57] <thirith> how to compile cpp in linux?
[03:57] <erabbit> i just installed ubuntu on my desktop and my monitor flicker is twice as bad as it was in windows and is killing my eyes.  so now i am tring to track down the cause - does anyone know if a bad ups and/or ups battery can cause monitor flicker?
[03:57] <ulu> i can't install firefox 2.0... ubuntu is new for me
[03:57] <cablesm102> topgun553, I used a different driver that worked with crappy quality, but then the driver got updated and broke the already broken support for the unsupported printer
[03:57] <wolfwalker> |bryan[c1] :| Cause if you have very little ram Ubuntu needs some temporary swap space. And if your hard drive is full, it can't GET that swap space
[03:57] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, It would be cheaper to go back to windows then buy new printer
[03:57] <Spasticteapot> Sure. Just like an electric wheelchair can be entered in a formula 1 race.
[03:57] <cablesm102> ulu, are you using Dapper?
[03:57] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| you still there?
[03:57] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Say wha?
[03:57] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: not for much longer
[03:57] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Do you live in the States?
[03:57] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| So is there any way to be sure it's not my ethernet card going bad?
[03:57] <topgun553> Spasticteapot,  yeah
[03:57] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| Yeah, I gotta go in a few too
[03:57] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, if you've got an aquaintance with broadband, try taking your computer over.
[03:57] <canadianman> question, how do i mount a second hard drive? has it changed from dapper?
[03:57] <HymnToLife> Spasticteapot, stop telling bullshit, Ubuntu will run just fine oon 256 MB ram
[03:58] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Look at Craigslist for your area.
[03:58] <ulu> wath? i installed ubuntu and i was trying oll the day to install firefoz 2.0...
[03:58] <wolfwalker> Any way OTHER than broadband?
[03:58] <ulu> it's not like windows..jaja
[03:58] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, Windows Xp Pro = 15 dollars
[03:58] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: only way to test is to connect to another ethernet device - but to connect to the doze box, you'd need a crossover cable
[03:58] <wolfwalker> Like computer to computer?
[03:58] <cablesm102> wolfwalker, i just said broadband because of etherent
[03:58] <wolfwalker> Crossover?
[03:58] <Spasticteapot> HymnToLife: That's my personal opinon from running on 256mb.
[03:58] <cablesm102> ulu, are you using Dapper?
[03:58] <wolfwalker> Like cat5e?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> topgun553: We don't advocate illegal activities on Freenode.
[03:58] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: case of asprin : $43.
[03:58] <topgun553> tonyyarusso, its not illegal
[03:58] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: Transmit & receive wires are reversed
[03:58] <bryan[c1] > i just put the ubuntu CD in my cd drive, is that bad?
[03:58] <topgun553> tonyyarusso, I am a student
[03:58] <Spasticteapot> tonyyarusso: Silly person - he's a student!
[03:59] <topgun553> tonyyarusso, at University of Michigan Engineering, thats how much it costs for us
[03:59] <[ubuntu] biz__> !register
[03:59] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:59] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, I run Ubuntu Edgy fine but somewhat slow on a celeron 1 gig with 128 of ram(actually my Mom does)
[03:59] <ulu> i don't know wath dapper is
[03:59] <sarah> Ohio State!!
[03:59] <cablesm102> topgun553, I know that Canon makes drivers for Linux, but only in Japan. I grabbed those, but couldn't get that working...
[03:59] <Spasticteapot> tonyarusso: Seeing as how my father works about sixty-odd hours a week teaching art, it's only fair he can get a $25 liscense for Office XP.
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> topgun553: For you okay.  Nobody else though.
[03:59] <wolfwalker> Oh well, I'll see if I can hash this out
[03:59] <ulu> i'm sorry
[03:59] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all
[03:59] <Gartral> !dapper
[03:59] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[03:59] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, hahaha i know what you mean but I will probably dual boot if i can get the time
[03:59] <wolfwalker> Maybe the card's just bad
[03:59] <cablesm102> ulu, when you installed Ubuntu, did you install the Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft version? If it came with 1.5, then it's Dapper
[03:59] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Dude, you can get 256mb of RAM for $20 or so. Linux will run much, much better.
[03:59] <ulu> ha no.... 5.10
[03:59] <bryan[c1] > is there a way to just run it live?
[04:00] <cablesm102> ulu, that's breezy
[04:00] <bryan[c1] > without actually installing it?
[04:00] <wolfwalker> If I didn't need Winblows so bad for my music programs, I'd replace it with Linux in my other computer
[04:00] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: hard to tell from here
[04:00] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: I dual boot myself - once you've got Linux set up, it stays set up, while WinXP just degrades.
[04:00] <wolfwalker> But I'm NOT paying for another XP cd!
[04:00] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Check out your area Craigslist.
[04:00] <wolfwalker> Night y'all
[04:00] <junmin> hi, guys, is your gnome nautilus crashing??!!!
[04:00] <cablesm102> ulu, i'm looking for some packages
[04:00] <wolfwalker> Thanks for all frogzoo
[04:00] <cablesm102> junmin, no... but it does sometimes. All to often, in fact.
[04:00] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: you might want to take a look in /var/log/messages to see if the driver's having problems
[04:00] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, Not my choice, the old box still has the seal on it from gateway and even though the machine is way past warranty mom wont allow the case to be cracked
[04:00] <ulu> all righ (Y)(Y)
[04:00] <frogzoo> k wolfwalker, gl
[04:01] <topgun553> cablesm102, I used the ip1500 and i can print black and white, supossidly their is a program that has our drivers but costs about 60 dollars
[04:01] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: I'm a computer techie by trade - have her E-mail me.
[04:01] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: I know what you mean - we've got a Canon too.
[04:01] <cablesm102> topgun553, Canon Japan actually makes official drivers. Can't get them to work though
[04:01] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: I love the printers  - linux support, not so much.
[04:01] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, me too
[04:01] <topgun553> haha
[04:01] <cablesm102> I just set up a script to send the document to my windows box and print it there
[04:01] <junmin> cablesm102, no?? cause today did a update, then the nautilus started crashing...
[04:02] <cablesm102> junmin, not for me...
[04:02] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Actually, there's a law in the books that says that you're LEGALLY OBLIGATED to continue a warranty after a customer installs RAM.
[04:02] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Yes, I'm a total nerd, and have no life.
[04:02] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, Im the sysadmin for my local public schools
[04:02] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, i never used  creglist before
[04:02] <ulu> i can't use "install and remove programs" in the aplications panel.. it just... doesn't open
[04:02] <bronze_0_1> prove it.. oh wait.. IRC...
[04:02] <cablesm102> ulu, that won't work anyway
[04:02] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: You said you're at the university of Michigan, right?
[04:02] <cablesm102> ulu, 2.0 isn't available through official sources for your version of Ubuntu
[04:02] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, corect
[04:02] <ulu> f**k
[04:02] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, ann arbor campus
[04:03] <cablesm102> ulu, you can try the package files for a later version of Ubuntu
[04:03] <ulu> ok... :)... i understad
[04:03] <topgun553> sarah fuc( the buckeyes
[04:03] <cablesm102> might not be the best idea though
[04:03] <Spasticteapot> bronze_0_1: Punchline: Then again, seeing as how I'm in a Linux IRC chatroom, what did you expect?
[04:03] <mzuverink> topgun553, Go Blue!
[04:03] <topgun553> mzuverink, hell yeah
[04:03] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Hey--that's my dad's Alma Mater!
[04:03] <cablesm102> ulu, Mozilla offers a tar.gz download with an install script. You can try that
[04:03] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, osu?
[04:04] <mzuverink> topgun553, you live on campus or off?
[04:04] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: While I personally find him somewhat abrasive and a little nutty, I can say that he did get a good education at Ann Arbor.
[04:04] <ulu> and the AMSN... i can't install it too, actully i've a headache with all this problems, jaja
[04:04] <ulu> i'll tryu it! thanks!!!!
[04:04] <topgun553> mzuverink, right on the edge
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> ulu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:04] <cablesm102> ulu, hold on a sec
[04:04] <cablesm102> ulu, for amsn, we're going to open a terminal
[04:04] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, yeah well I am just at the point when I am about to learn something useful
[04:04] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, at least i am hoping
[04:04] <canadianman> how do i mount a second hard drive in edgy?
[04:04] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | Spasticteapot, topgun553
[04:04] <ubotu> Spasticteapot, topgun553: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:04] <finer> anyone know how i can make text both left aligned and right aligned on the same line in openoffice? this can be done in MS Word
[04:04] <cablesm102> ulu, open a terminal and use this command:
[04:05] <ulu> terminal open....
[04:05] <cablesm102> ulu: "sudo aptitude install amsn"
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> !mount | canadianman
[04:05] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/264145503.html
[04:05] <ubotu> canadianman: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:05] <cablesm102> finer, I've  never been able to do that in word, but you can try using textboxes...
[04:05] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: That's a HP, and should have great (cough) UBUNTU (cough) support.
[04:05] <canadianman> thanks tony
[04:05] <ulu> tonyyarusso i'm opening that page... :)
[04:05] <ulu> ok cablesm102.. and that all?
[04:05] <topgun553> Spasticteapot, what is that Xinerama?
[04:05] <mzuverink> topgun553, there should be a good LUG there, I only live about a half hour from Ann Arbor durning the weekend, Im available for help just let me know
[04:06] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: It's a utility for multiple monitors under Linux.
[04:06] <cablesm102> ulu, is it done?
[04:06] <canadianman> !fstab
[04:06] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:06] <cablesm102> ulu, see if amsn is installed...
[04:06] <Spasticteapot> Go find someone smarter than me at Ann Abor - I'm a laptop junkie, not a linux guru.
[04:06] <finer> in word you can move the mouse really far right, until the mouse turns into a "right aligned symbol" then click and you can type on the right side of the page
[04:06] <finer> while the text on the left stays as is
[04:06] <instabin_> how do i record a video of my desktop
[04:06] <topgun553> mzuverink, whats LUG?
[04:06] <Spasticteapot> That Craigslist sale should get you something functional for not a lot of cash, though.
[04:06] <vai> how do i check to see witch vir of ubuntu i have?
[04:06] <Milos_SD> Q: I can't make my TV tuner work (have picture, but no sound and radio). How can I make it work? Please, tell me.
[04:06] <mzuverink> topgun553, Linux Users Group
[04:06] <kitche> !version|vai
[04:06] <ubotu> vai: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:06] <ulu> wait a minute... and i'll tell you
[04:07] <cablesm102> k
[04:07] <computer13137> Hi
[04:07] <topgun553> mzuverink, there is something  called the linux box here, but its a buisness
[04:07] <cablesm102> !ask
[04:07] <instabin_> !video
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[04:07] <cablesm102> Does anybody know why Mozilla doesn't offer Firefox debs? Seriously, they only offer versions you just run from a script.
[04:07] <Spasticteapot> Huh...I wonder if there's a local LUG in my area?
[04:07] <mzuverink> topgun553, http://www.umich.edu/~umlug/
[04:08] <computer13137> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but x11 isn't working correctly.  It's reading my integrated video instead of my video card... I need to know what to change and exactly how to change it in xorg.conf?
[04:08] <instabin_> How do i record my desktop. I want to make a video demo of my xgl
[04:08] <kitche> cablesm102: because they only release a binary that they support, distros tend to patch programs and such for their own use
[04:08] <cablesm102> instabin, google search something like screen capture ubuntu
[04:08] <HymnToLife> computer13137, try disabling your intergrated-thingie in your BIOS
[04:08] <mike_la> anybody have opnions on the Transmission client for torrents?
[04:09] <cablesm102> kitche, they could package it for multiple distros, no?
[04:09] <instabin_> mike_la : I like utorrent
[04:09] <Dirtbag> Hi everyone, have any of you tried ubuntu on an ibm laptop?
[04:09] <topgun553> Could UBuntu be making my internet run slowly
[04:09] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: I'm running on a Thinkpad X40.
[04:09] <topgun553> because I didn't have a problem in windows
[04:09] <gaspipe1> hey all
[04:09] <Pici> Dirtbag, running it on a thinkpad T60 currently
[04:09] <cablesm102> topgun553, on other computers?
[04:09] <tupa> does anyone know  how to compile qt programs for windows using linux?
[04:09] <cablesm102> Dirtbag, are you having problems?
[04:09] <tupa> i don't have windows
[04:09] <topgun553> cablesm102, what?
[04:09] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Ubuntu has top-notch compatibility for almost all models of Thinkpad.
[04:09] <mike_la> Instabin: im looking 4 native clients
[04:09] <mzuverink> topgun553, that page has real old links, but I am sure there is one there
[04:09] <Mahdi> How can I run a script before networking is started?
[04:09] <Spasticteapot> dirtbag: What were ou looking to install on?
[04:09] <Mahdi> ooops
[04:09] <computer13137> Hymntolife: It's as disabled as it gets... my bios doesn't let me completly deactivate it.
[04:09] <cablesm102> topgun553, you say it's making your internet slow...
[04:10] <kitche> cablesm102: well they can but their way is easy if you only where to place the firefox folder
[04:10] <Mahdi> Hi, where can I place a script so it runs before networking is started?
[04:10] <kitche> !ipv6|topgun553
[04:10] <ubotu> topgun553: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:10] <cablesm102> kitche, that's true
[04:11] <Dirtbag> kind of, im learning ubuntu, but my hd on my A31p is dying, it has a built in recovery (hidden partition) how do I back it up?
[04:11] <mzuverink> computer13137, You need to download a server or alt install cd, do a base install then install ubuntu-desktop, then dpkg-reconfigure xorg to set up your vid card
[04:11] <cablesm102> Dirtbag, try sbackup
[04:11] <bryan[c1] > i stuck the ubuntu CD in my CD drive, rebooted my computer, and it didn't run on live...
[04:11] <Spasticteapot> dirtbag: Remove the HDD and use a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter.
[04:11] <SmAcKaSs> does anyone know if there is a way to fully format a hard disk from the 6.10 cd ?
[04:11] <kitche> bryan[c1] : is your bios set up to run from cd?
[04:12] <cablesm102> SmAcKaSs, it should come with disk management software built in
[04:12] <bryan[c1] > wouldn't that just go to the installation?
[04:12] <Spasticteapot> dirtbag: If your HDD is going, get a new hard drive.  The A31P uses standard 2.5" hard drives - a used model should not cost much at all.
[04:12] <NthDegree> SmAcKaSs, it does that when you install
[04:12] <cablesm102> So no one knows how to install Democracy .9.2 on Edgy?
[04:12] <SmAcKaSs> cablesm: no dice, i can't get live to boot correctly
[04:12] <NthDegree> SmAcKaSs, use the gparted included on the CD
[04:12] <riotkittie> bryan[c1] : no. it goes to the live cd. the install portion is kicked off from the desktop of the live disc.
[04:12] <SmAcKaSs> i wouldn't be asking if i could get into nix guys
[04:12] <Schumbi> smack you can delete your partiotions while installing edgy
[04:12] <kitche> bryan[c1] : which cd did you download if your bios isn't set up to check drom before hard drive it won't use the cd rom drive to boot off of
[04:12] <wastrel> hi
[04:12] <cablesm102> !ask
[04:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:13] <bryan[c1] > i ordered them off the site :(
[04:13] <mzuverink> cablesm102, look up trevinos source list on google, youll find a link there or a repo that has it
[04:13] <riotkittie> hi wastrel
[04:13] <Milos_SD> Q: I can't make my TV tuner work (have picture, but no sound and radio). How can I make it work? Please, tell me how to make it work. :(
[04:13] <Spasticteapot> dirtbag: A31...that's one of the 14" models with a pentium III cpu?
[04:13] <SmAcKaSs> NthDegree: the command is just gparted? or where is it located? (still a nix newb)
[04:13] <Schumbi> right
[04:13] <riotkittie> bryan[c1] : then its the live cd. change your boot options and you will get the live disc .... experience
[04:13] <Spasticteapot> Milos_SD: That's like asking: I have a Toyota. What color is the exhaust manifold?
[04:13] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: No p4  15.1"
[04:13] <bryan[c1] > k thanks
[04:13] <Spasticteapot> Milos_SD: What model of TV input card?
[04:13] <Schumbi> gparted is the program to manage your partitions
[04:13] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Huh.
[04:14] <Schumbi> but pay atention
[04:14] <Milos_SD> Spasticteapot: GIGABYTE  DVB-T Hybrid TV Card GT-PTV-TAF-RH
[04:14] <NthDegree> SmAcKaSs, should be on the menus
[04:14] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: D'oh! That's the A21.
[04:14] <SmAcKaSs> hmmm
[04:14] <Milos_SD> with Philips 7134 tuner
[04:14] <Schumbi> if your partitons are once deleted they are
[04:14] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: You should have PERFECT compatibility right from the Get-Go.
[04:14] <NthDegree> SmAcKaSs, or it offers the option during install
[04:14] <Schumbi> and its not easy to get data back
[04:14] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: lol no A31p laptop =)
[04:14] <SmAcKaSs> Nth: can't get to install
[04:14] <Schumbi> why?
[04:15] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: I'm using Xubuntu, and everything worked perfectly with a fresh install on my Thinkpad X40.
[04:15] <ulu> ok.. CABLE... it doesn't work
[04:15] <SmAcKaSs> only an error with command line after
[04:15] <Schumbi> is there an error masseage?
[04:15] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Even suspend - they rolled all the Thinkpad support bits into the kernel,  I think.
[04:15] <cablesm102> ulu: what doesn't work, and how doesn't it work?
[04:15] <SmAcKaSs> that uncurable error: "can't access tty; job control turned off"
[04:15] <ulu> i've the packege of AMSN in the desktop.. but nothing occurs
[04:15] <SmAcKaSs> thats why
[04:15] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Go get a new hard drive, install, and enjoy.
[04:15] <cablesm102> ulu, how did it get to the desktop? Did you type the command?
[04:15] <Rio> if i want to add a a rule to firestarter, where the ip address can change, can i just write 78.35.7.x, for example? would that be allowed?
[04:15] <Schumbi> ih
[04:15] <Schumbi> oh
[04:15] <SmAcKaSs> :-\
[04:16] <Schumbi> tty is one of the terminals i think
[04:16] <SmAcKaSs> true.
[04:16] <gaspipe1> can someone please show me how to move (cp) fonts in a folder on desktop to "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf"
[04:16] <benrob> I cannot access the hard-disks in my HP9400 when booted under livecd (dapper 64-bit) - "device manager" shows them as unknown, tmpfs, with no partitions. They are formatted as ext3. How can I get them mounted and accessible? Im rather desperate.
[04:16] <mzuverink> SmAcKaSs, are you trying to boot ubuntu from a cdrw?
[04:16] <Rio> ...or is there some other way to do it
[04:16] <SmAcKaSs> mzuer: no, CD-R
[04:16] <SmAcKaSs> problem?
[04:16] <cablesm102> ulu, did you put the command I gave you into the terminal?
[04:16] <Schumbi> have you checked the cd?
[04:16] <ulu> where i've tu put the package of AMSn into?
[04:17] <Milos_SD> anyone?
[04:17] <cablesm102> ulu, you shouldn't have a package file
[04:17] <cablesm102> ulu, the command I gave you
[04:17] <SmAcKaSs> not with the cd itsself, cause it won't cause past loading screen (same error)
[04:17] <cablesm102> should install it
[04:17] <mzuverink> SmAcKaSs, Ive found a few machines lately that wont boott from a cdrw but fine from a cdr, so I was just asking
[04:17] <mcquaid> my windows partition isn't hd0,0.  I've been reading about grub and articles state that if windows isn't your first partition you have to map it to fool it into thinking it's the first part
[04:17] <mcquaid> but i'm not sure if this is only true of win98 or xp as well
[04:17] <kitche> mcquaid: it's only for windows xp win 98 didn't care where it was installed
[04:18] <cablesm102> ulu, you need to type "sudo aptitude install amsn" into the terminal, then answer all the questions. If that didn't work, your APT is messed up.
[04:18] <SmAcKaSs> mz: it boots just fine, but errors in loading the kernal or something
[04:18] <mcquaid> ah ok
[04:18] <mcquaid> that must be my problem then
[04:18] <mzuverink> mcquaid, http://easylinux.info ubuntu section has a section on remapping windows, it is in the reinstalling xp section
[04:18] <SmAcKaSs> i'm about to just install SuSe ( =-0 )
[04:18] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: Oops I didnt explain my problem good, Sorry. It installs just fine. Im dual booting so I can learn ubuntu on my spare time. My problem is how do I get my built in repir disk, backed up. I have a new HD.
[04:18] <Schumbi> hehe
[04:18] <mcquaid> mzuverink, kitche thx
[04:19] <benrob> is anyone there, or do I have a chronic network delay?
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> benrob: boo
[04:19] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Use QTparted to copy the partition to an external drive.
[04:19] <SmAcKaSs> be back soon
[04:19] <mzuverink> benrob, no ones here
[04:19] <topgun553_> Spasticteapot, hahaha my internet cut out had to rebot
[04:19] <cablesm102> Dirtbag, I see what you mean. Your comp manufacturer didn't include an install CD (cheap assholes) so you need to back up the built-in restore partition
[04:19] <Rio> if i want to add a a rule to firestarter, where the ip address can change, can i just write 78.35.7.x, for example? anyone know?
[04:19] <topgun553_> cablesm102, haha speaking of the devil
[04:19] <Spasticteapot> Topgun553: I'm using a crappy wifi connection - I know EXACTLY what you mean.
[04:19] <Spasticteapot> topgun553:
[04:19] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: YUP!
[04:19] <Milos_SD> Spasticteapot, here is more info about my problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3303
[04:20] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: Anyway...you can get a cheap HP printer on annarbor.craigslist.org/sys for about $20 or so.
[04:20] <ablyss> i just created an XFS partition.. is there a way to set it as my /home directory?
[04:20] <cablesm102> HP = awesome because they make good Linux drivers! Or at least release their printer APIs.
[04:21] <cablesm102> either way, their printers work great with ubuntu
[04:21] <kelsin> ablyss: mount is as /home, just need to make an entry in /etc/fstab
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> Rio: 78.35.8.255/24 I _think_
[04:21] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: QTparted will reconize the hidden partition?
[04:21] <kitche> cablesm102: hp is a linux supported
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> Rio: Could be any combination of 255 or 0 / 24 or 8
[04:21] <ablyss> thanks kelsin.
[04:21] <Schumbi> hp is great if the device isn't an inkprinter ^^
[04:21] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: It's not hidden. Most IBM laptops use FAT32 or sometimes NTFS for the restore partition.
[04:21] <mzuverink> cablesm102, HP is super linux freindly
[04:22] <Rio> tonyyarusso okay... whats the "/8" or "/24" signify?
[04:22] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: Yeah I think its fat32
[04:22] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: HP laptops, not so much. My NC4010 would neot suspend.
[04:22] <cablesm102> mzuverink, i know... i was just mentioning it to someone who needed help with their printer.
[04:22] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: It should copy it just fine.
[04:22] <gaspipe1> anyone know how to copy files via termanal?
[04:22] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, I bought my laptop with linux installed by the factory
[04:22] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: Ok thank you very much!
[04:22] <cablesm102> gaspip1, cp <original> <destination>
[04:22] <Schumbi> gas  try man cp
[04:23] <blind> hey guys, any clue why my gnome-screensaver is hung up and I can't log into my system? i switched over to tty, and tried kill -9'ing gnome-screensaver, but i still have just a black screen :|
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Rio: How many bits are variable.
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> or fixed
[04:23] <Spasticteapot> Dirtbag: Or, for the "brute force" approach, remove the HDD, connect it (via $3 2.5" to 3.5" adapter) and copy the partition to the desktop's hard drive.
[04:23] <kelsin> ablyss: and just so you know, if you have stuff in /home you don't "need" to clear it out, it will be there when you umount your new partition off of /home still
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> can't remember :)
[04:23] <kelsin> ablys
[04:23] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, i misspelled your name. Try "cp <original> <copy>"
[04:23] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: What kind of laptop do you have?
[04:23] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, HP dv1000 series
[04:23] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: my prob. is that i have a few fonts in a folder on my desktop and i wish to cp them to "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf"
[04:23] <Dirtbag> Spasticteapot: Ill do both just to make sure it works =)
[04:23] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, can't you just use the GUI?
[04:23] <benrob> tonyyarusso, mzuverink: haha. seems the connection has got itself sorted now. But about my hdd's?
[04:24] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: I'm now an IBM fan, having now owned a HP/Compaq Evo (read: expensive buisness line), Apple iBook, Dell XPS, and my Thinkpad X40.
[04:24] <Schumbi> if you got problems with your gnome an nothing seems to work try to delete your .files in your home directory
[04:24] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: no the folder is locked
[04:24] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: I must say that Dell sucks - HP is nice, but linux compatibility must vary between models.
[04:24] <gu014> My video card has has DVI-D which only straight DVI connection to the monitor is required and can not use any DVI to D-Sub adapter. Is there any adapter out there that would allow me to use the dvi output of this card to a vga lcd flat panel?
[04:24] <Rio> tonyyarusso ahh... hrmm.... well, ive actually trying to set up a WAP page for my blackberry, and i tried to add the ip address of my blackberry as a rule, but i still cant seem to connect to that site with my blackberry... cant figure out why
[04:25] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, you need to use root access. So use this: "sudo cp <original> <destination>"
[04:25] <blind> gu014: cannot use an adapter? weird..
[04:25] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, It came with Red Hat, I never booted to it though, and it did save me 299 for the lack of Win Xp Pro
[04:25] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: the line would be sudo cp *.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf
[04:25] <Spasticteapot> I got mine for $650 w/ 1yr Lenovo warranty a few months ago.
[04:25] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, so what's the problem you're having?
[04:25] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: i just don't know what to replace the * with (the fonts are in a folder called fonts on my desktop
[04:25] <blind> hey guys, any clue why my gnome-screensaver is hung up and I can't log into my system? i switched over to tty, and tried kill -9'ing gnome-screensaver, but i still have just a black screen :|
[04:26] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, They were pleased as punch to sell it to me without xp, it came delivered from HP Linux support
[04:26] <Spasticteapot> Off-lease Thinkpads rock - they're durable enough that it's not really a problem.
[04:26] <Spasticteapot> Sweet.
[04:26] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, I'm not sure. You can always use Nautilus with root access by using "gksudo nautilus"
[04:26] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, open 2 of those and drag...
[04:26] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, Ive had a few issues with it and they were very helpful, even for Ubuntu
[04:26] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: I have a Thinkpad. Hence...no issues!
[04:27] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: i'm a noob to linux... and afraid you just lost me
[04:27] <mcquaid> damn i still can't get xp to boot.  i get 'invalid or unsupported executable format'
[04:27] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Even without the linux compatibility, it's hard to argue with the battery life and weight of 2.7 lbs.
[04:27] <mcquaid> can someone look at the relevant section of menu.1st for me?
[04:27] <mcquaid> http://www.pastebin.ca/326476
[04:27] <wastrel> i have thinkpad <3
[04:27] <Spasticteapot> My old laptop had a power adapter that weighed about that much.
[04:27] <mcquaid> maybe something will stand out
[04:27] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: u don't know the "path" for access to a folder on you desktop?
[04:27] <Schumbi> mcquaid: Have you checked this with your xp cd?
[04:27] <mcquaid> damn i just saw an error
[04:27] <cablesm102> gaspipe1: Ah, I see. It's ~/Desktop
[04:27] <mcquaid> going to try again brb
[04:28] <gu014> blind, yes, i have tried two of the same exact card with the same result. i then emailed msi and received: "The card has has DVI-D which only straight DVI connection to the monitor is required and can not use any DVI to D-Sub adapter."
[04:28] <water> how to install aps of ibm t43 notebook:must i compile the kernel
[04:28] <cablesm102> gaspipe1, your desktop's path is ~/Desktop
[04:28] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, HP is fine, work paid for it, and even though the deducted the price of windows xp they still sent it and all the drivers disks too.
[04:28] <blind> Can someone help me? :[
[04:28] <Schumbi> water: no
[04:28] <cablesm102> blind: with what?
[04:29] <blind> hey guys, any clue why my gnome-screensaver is hung up and I can't log into my system? i switched over to tty, and tried kill -9'ing gnome-screensaver, but i still have just a black screen :|
[04:29] <mzuverink> blind, not if we do not know your problem....
[04:29] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: so "sudo cp ~/Desktop/fonts/lucida grande.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf" should work?
[04:29] <cablesm102> if /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf is a folder, that should work
[04:29] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Free laptops are the best kind.
[04:29] <cablesm102> might want to make it /ttf/ just in case it's not
[04:30] <SurfnKid> hi cacn anyone help me fix a broken index due to a software upgrade to edgy??
[04:30] <Erb> Where does screen resolution preferences pick up its values from? I have added modes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarted X but it still has the same values.
[04:30] <tapas> is there any way to not start the X server with the live cd?
[04:30] <tapas> [i.e. feisty kubuntu alpha] 
[04:30] <blind> Erb: you may need to fix your HorizSync and VertRefresh inside xorg.conf
[04:30] <mzuverink> tapas, not that I know of\
[04:30] <cablesm102> blind, does this happen every time the screensaver comes on? have you tried changing screensavers?
[04:30] <topgun553_> Anyone know how to use TwinView?
[04:30] <mcquaid> ya still didn't work
[04:30] <blind> cablesm102: this is the first time it's happened.
[04:31] <tapas> mzuverink: cause the hw detection of ubuntu always makes my thinkpad t21 lock up
[04:31] <cablesm102> blind, so reboot the computer and hope it doesn't happen again. Crashes happen.
[04:31] <Schumbi> couldn't you start the cd in server installation maode?
[04:31] <blind> cablesm102: not on linux they don't!
[04:31] <blind> :P
[04:31] <tapas> [i know what i would have to change in the xorg.conf to make it boot] 
[04:31] <Schumbi> i think tehere isn't any x running then
[04:31] <cablesm102> blind, they sure do.
[04:31] <tapas> Schumbi: the live cd?
[04:31] <Milos_SD> Q: I can't make my TV tuner work (have picture, but no sound and radio). How can I make it work? Please, tell me how to make it work. :( It is GIGABYTE  DVB-T Hybrid TV Card GT-PTV-TAF-RH with Philips tuner.
[04:31] <blind> cablesm102: was a joke
[04:31] <ObiWanNubie> what is the default password for root in edgy.
[04:31] <Erb> blind: how does that change the values in Screen Resolution?
[04:31] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: that didn't work... oww well try again another time
[04:32] <mcquaid> does anything jump out at anyone that might be wrong with this
[04:32] <mcquaid> http://www.pastebin.ca/326485
[04:32] <SurfnKid> hi cacn anyone help me fix a broken index due to a software upgrade to edgy??
[04:32] <cablesm102> ObiWanNubie, there isn't one. You should use sudo, or set one yourself
[04:32] <mzuverink> tapas, try dling the alternate install, then when thats done install ubuntu-desktop then remember to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  Then try starting x
[04:32] <Schumbi> we are talking about installation cd of edgy (6.10) right?
[04:32] <cablesm102> blind, i know... is there a reason you can't just reboot the computer?
[04:32] <tapas> mzuverink: yah, ok
[04:32] <ObiWanNubie> cablesm102: how do i set one up ?
[04:32] <SARA> hello can anyone help me with installing a flashplayer i am having some problems
[04:32] <wastrel> !root | ObiWanNubie
[04:32] <ubotu> ObiWanNubie: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:32] <SurfnKid> Schumbi: talkin to me?
[04:33] <cablesm102> ObiWanNubie, one thing: you can just use sudo before a command
[04:33] <blind> cablesm102: just don't want to. i restarted X and it worked.
[04:33] <cablesm102> ObiWanNubie, or use sudo -i to get a root terminal
[04:33] <jrib> SARA: what problems?
[04:33] <mzuverink> ObiWanNubie, go to http://easylinux.info and read the section on root password
[04:33] <Schumbi> surfkid no to tapas :)
[04:33] <cablesm102> ObiWanNubie, or use the thing Wastrel sent
[04:33] <SurfnKid> oh :P
[04:33] <ObiWanNubie> k thanx
[04:33] <SurfnKid> anyone here know how to fix a broken index?
[04:33] <SARA> i cant install it ...every time i try it doesnt work
[04:33] <cablesm102> blind, so it's fixed?
[04:33] <topgun553_> Spasticteapot,  You know how to use TwinView?
[04:33] <jrib> SARA: how are you trying?  What happens? What errors do you get?  Details are good.
[04:33] <kitche> SurfnKid: did you sudo apt-get updae see if that works?
[04:33] <SurfnKid> ive tried apt-get install -f but still get errors, im trying to upgrade to edgy and im on the last step. apparently it doesnt go further
[04:34] <zoexii> hello, anyone know what anthy.dic is?  it wants to be updated every time I run apt-get, and this always hangs.
[04:34] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:34] <SurfnKid> let me try
[04:34] <kitche> SurfnKid: update*
[04:34] <SARA> haha...sorry im getting mad! I am trying through my terminal
[04:34] <cablesm102> SurfnKid, have you used custom sources.list's or used Automatix?
[04:34] <jrib> SARA: what errors do you get?
[04:34] <topgun553_> cablesm102, you know how to use twinview?
[04:35] <SARA> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[04:35] <cablesm102> topgun553, no
[04:35] <mzuverink> zoexii, http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/anthy
[04:35] <cablesm102> why would you think I did?
[04:35] <jrib> SARA: what version of ubuntu?
[04:35] <SARA> edgy
[04:35] <Spasticteapot> topgun553: No idea.
[04:35] <jrib> SARA: are you installing from -backports?
[04:35] <water> about ibm t43 aps :which "hdaps protect patch" file suits for ubuntu6.10
[04:36] <SARA> i am not sure
[04:36] <darketto> alguien habla espaol??
[04:36] <darketto> someone speak spanish??
[04:36] <jrib> SARA: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[04:36] <_`XeOn_> hello
[04:36] <wastrel> hi!
[04:36] <_`XeOn_> im a new ubuntu user
[04:36] <Spasticteapot> darketto: Yo pienso que hay un chatroom de Ubuntu que es solamente para espanol.
[04:36] <wastrel> !es | dark_light
[04:36] <ubotu> dark_light: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:36] <mzuverink> darketto, I think esp is #ubuntu-es
[04:36] <cablesm102> _'XeOn_, congrats
[04:36] <Schumbi> _`XeOn_: gratz :D
[04:36] <wastrel> sigh darketto, even.
[04:37] <SARA>  Couldn't find package mozilla-plugin-gnash
[04:37] <_`XeOn_> =) ty
[04:37] <Spasticteapot> darketto: usted debe que usar ubuntu -es. Mi espanol is muy pobre.
[04:37] <wastrel> a wel he quit.
[04:37] <_`XeOn_> i was just bored of blue screens so i swiched
[04:37] <water> is here anyone who use ibm t43/notebook?
[04:37] <cablesm102> Mi espanol no es aqui...
[04:37] <jrib> SARA: what about my command?
[04:37] <SARA> thats what it said
[04:37] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, any trouble?
[04:37] <Schumbi> hm blue screens  my xp isn't that that bad =)
[04:38] <jrib> SARA: can you pastebin the full output including the command?
[04:38] <_`XeOn_> hmm yes the avast antiviruz
[04:38] <jrib> !pastebin | SARA
[04:38] <ubotu> SARA: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, you don't need an antivirus on Linux
[04:38] <_`XeOn_> really?
[04:38] <Schumbi> water : sorry no but a older one  a t30
[04:38] <Spasticteapot> water: What's the problem?
[04:38] <Spasticteapot> I have a Thinkpad X40 myself.
[04:38] <Spasticteapot> T43...hmm..that's the last model of Thinkpad.
[04:38] <Spasticteapot> Single-core Pentium M ("core") processor,correct?
[04:38] <HymnToLife> !antivirus
[04:38] <SARA> i dont know how to do pastebin
[04:38] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:38] <xenoterracide> what file do I set the ip addy's of dns servers in?
[04:38] <jrib> !enter | Spasticteapot
[04:38] <ubotu> Spasticteapot: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:38] <mzuverink> cablesm102, you cant say that, do you know his intended use?  Do you know what he plans on doing with wine?
[04:39] <Spasticteapot> Wha?
[04:39] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, really. You just may want one to prevent forwarding a virus accidentally to a windows user
[04:39] <Spasticteapot> !enter
[04:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:39] <cablesm102> mzuverink, i just clarified
[04:39] <_`XeOn_> so theres no way to get infested?
[04:39] <mzuverink> cablesm102, I am sick of this no antivirus blind blanket crap
[04:39] <Schumbi> xenoterracide : perhaps try man ifconfig
[04:40] <jrib> mzuverink: "blind blanket"?
[04:40] <gaspipe1> night all
[04:40] <Schumbi> with this command you can set the dns
[04:40] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, no real widespread viruses on linux. however, you can still infect windows computers by forwarding virus email. so it's a good thing to install one.
[04:40] <_`XeOn_> then i think ill love linux ^.^
[04:40] <xenoterracide> yeah but it won't hold on a reboot
[04:40] <Schumbi> cablesm102: a specia one?
[04:41] <water> Spasticteapot: yes. how to install the aps drive
[04:41] <xenoterracide> the file is /etc/conf.d/net in gentoo
[04:41] <cablesm102> Schumbi, what?
[04:41] <mzuverink> jrib, this blind assumption that since windows virii do not infect linux there is no reason to run av.
[04:41] <xenoterracide> but this is not gentoo
[04:41] <SurfnKid> kitche: http://www.pastebin.ca/326495
[04:41] <xenoterracide> I just set up a bind server
[04:41] <Schumbi> cablesm102 : what scan do you prefer?
[04:41] <SurfnKid> kitche: would you look at it, perhaps a hint to fix it
[04:41] <_`XeOn_> why flash isnt supported?
[04:41] <xenoterracide> and want all hosts on the subnet to ask it first
[04:41] <cablesm102> Schumbi, I don't use one.. I've heard good things about clamav
[04:41] <jrib> _`XeOn_: what do you mean by "supported"?
[04:41] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, it is. You need to download Flash 9 from Adobe
[04:41] <mzuverink> Schumbi, clam is nice especially if you use kmail
[04:41] <omega99> hi
[04:41] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Actually, I just won't run one because I want to make the people on the network I'm stuck running to suffer.
[04:42] <omega99> ubuntu linux sucks
[04:42] <_`XeOn_> yeah it says non free
[04:42] <jrib> _`XeOn_: because it's proprietary software from adobe...
[04:42] <kelsin> _`XeOn_: free as in speach, not beer in that case
[04:42] <_`XeOn_> omega99 i think ubuntu is way better than windows
[04:42] <Schumbi> cablesm102 : hm thanks but i use gnome with evolution    but i'll try clamav i thin
[04:42] <kitche> _`XeOn_: nonfree by license it's a binary not open source
[04:42] <Spasticteapot> mzuverik: It's their own bloody fault they whine "I want internet explorer!", and the hoover up the tiny amount of bandwitth we have surfing MySpace.
[04:42] <mzuverink> Spasticteapot, Thats a good reason if it works for you, but I try and atleast be somewhat a good citizen
[04:42] <jrib> !free | _`XeOn_
[04:42] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[04:43] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, it's gratis, not libre. It doesn't cost money. You can get Flash 7 from the package manager, but it's pretty unstable. Try installing Flash 9 from Adobe, they make it pretty easy
[04:43] <bryan[c1] > i booted from the ubuntu disk but it didn't start ubuntu live, it just went to the install menu
[04:43] <bryan[c1] > then i typed in "boot=live" instead of "boot=casper" and ubuntu crashed.
[04:43] <jrib> _`XeOn_: flash 9 is in the repositories if you enable the !backports repository as well
[04:43] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: That bandwitdh is reserved for downloading manuals for obscure bits of PICmicro related hardware, not finding out how many "friends" you have.
[04:43] <loopdee> I am having trouble getting wireless working on this machine. It seems to be loading Atheros ath? and creates the connection. But when I enter in the name and key, I do not get an IP address. What could be wrong ?
[04:43] <SARA> Jrib..help :)
[04:43] <xzk> how do I resize my ubuntu/linux partition with gparted? It's too big and I need to make it smaller
[04:43] <mindy> Hey guys, I have a broadcom card and Im using ndiswrapper.  When I go sudo ndiswrapper -l I get the following: bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware present.  However there is no sign of eth1 in the network manager.  Can anyone help?
[04:44] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 i got it
[04:44] <lmosher> I use Ubuntu in English, but I'm learning Chinese, so I want to be able to open chinese in openoffice. How do I do this?
[04:44] <lmosher> I want to be able to write in chinese, of course.
[04:44] <jrib> SARA: did you visit the URL in your web browser?
[04:44] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, great. Have fun with ubuntu
[04:44] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: These people refuse to spend any money on the PCs, refuse to use Linux, and whine when Windows runs slowly.
[04:44] <SARA> yeah
[04:44] <Ikerd> Alguien sabe que programa utilizar para ver television en ubuntu LTS desde internet
[04:44] <Spasticteapot> mzuverink: Did I mention I'm not actually paid for it?
[04:44] <Ikerd> ?
[04:44] <garryb> lkerd: pon: "apt-get install xawtv"
[04:44] <jrib> SARA: ok, then copy and paste the stuff I asked about into the form and submit it
[04:44] <SurfnKid> !ubuntu-es
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <garryb> lkerd: perdon, sudo apt-get install xawtv
[04:45] <Spasticteapot> ikerd: Debes usar #ubuntu-es
[04:45] <SurfnKid> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:45] <_`XeOn_> how the cat says "i like it"
[04:45] <garryb> lkerd: entonces, pon: xawtv
[04:45] <bruenig> xzk, what partition are you trying to resize?
[04:45] <SurfnKid> !es
[04:45] <SurfnKid> !es
[04:45] <SARA> i did
[04:45] <jrib> SARA: now tell us the URL for your paste
[04:45] <kitche> SurfnKid: the install -f means what install force?
[04:45] <bryan[c1] > i booted from the ubuntu disk but it didn't start ubuntu live, it just went to the install menu. then i typed in "boot=live" instead of "boot=casper" and ubuntu crashed.
[04:45] <khermans_> is there a way to do an an inline upgrade from i386 to amd64?
[04:45] <garryb> lkerd: hay que configurar xawtv.  donde vives?
[04:45] <cablesm102> Hay personas en ubunt-es? (Lo siento para mi espanol horrible)
[04:45] <Ikerd> ok
[04:45] <garryb> NTSC o PAL, etc
[04:45] <kitche> SurfnKid: I m not familar with apt-get I m more of an aptitude person
[04:45] <xzk> bruenig: I am needing to resize my ubuntu/linux partition to make it smaller - I made it too large when I first installed ubuntu, and now my winXP partition is running low on space :(
[04:45] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[04:45] <SurfnKid> hmm
[04:46] <bruenig> xzk, ok you are going to need to resize it from the live cd
[04:46] <mzuverink> xzk, use gparted
[04:46] <kitche> SurfnKid: you can do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to dist upgrade to edgy
[04:46] <SARA> it says a field is required
[04:46] <Spasticteapot> Anyone here know why GNUnet won't compile because I don't have GUILE, even though I just downloaded GUILE 1.6 and guile-dev?
[04:46] <xzk> bruenig: I can't resize it from here inside ubuntu ?
[04:46] <jrib> SARA: then fill it in
[04:46] <Spasticteapot> It's getting on my @#$#@ nerves.
[04:46] <SARA> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2714/
[04:46] <bruenig> xzk, you can't resize a mounted partition. If you unmount ubuntu while in ubuntu, yeah that doesn't work.
[04:46] <Spasticteapot> I just want to wach some episodes of Doctor Who.
[04:47] <Spasticteapot> (We pay for BBC america. Sue me.)
[04:47] <bryan[c1] > i booted from the ubuntu disk but it didn't start ubuntu live, it just went to the install menu. then i typed in "boot=live" instead of "boot=casper" and ubuntu crashed. what is happening, this is really annoying me.
[04:47] <xzk> bruenig: oh yeah duh.. I knew that
[04:47] <_`XeOn_> sometimes i get lost navigating folders i dont really know what each of them do but im not touching anything unless i learn how to handle linux
[04:47] <bryan[c1] > why is no one answering me
[04:47] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, sending a link to help with folders
[04:47] <xzk> bruenig: is there any way to resize it from within winXP? or just go the liveCD route
[04:47] <Schumbi> Spasticteapot sleep about it before you kill your computer ^^
[04:47] <mzuverink> xzk, livecd
[04:47] <_`XeOn_> great
[04:48] <bryan[c1] > how do i use live cd?
[04:48] <xzk> zuverink: ty
[04:48] <bruenig> xzk, if you can get a windows partition program, but those generally cost money. It is probably easier to just use the live cd
[04:48] <xzk> bruenig: yeah you're right
[04:48] <Spasticteapot> Schumbi: Huh?
[04:48] <nat3_> Hi, i have a problem with OO.o after I install java6. I can't open OO.o (It's closed after splash screen) how to fix it
[04:48] <SARA> Jrib is that what u need?
[04:48] <bruenig> bryan[c1] , you put it in your cdrom then restart the computer
[04:48] <nat3_> or should I upgrade it to OO.o2.1
[04:48] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard      also, just so you know, everything in Linux is considered a file... even things like USB ports and stuff
[04:48] <bryan[c1] > that doesn't work, even when i boot from the disk
[04:48] <garryb> bruenig: Don't recommend the windows partition program.  PartitionMagic ruined my computer.  Never had a problem with ntfsresize and friends
[04:48] <lmosher> What's the best chinese input program?
[04:49] <jrib> SARA: yes, enable backports and try again
[04:49] <_`XeOn_> thank you cablesm102
[04:49] <jrib> !backports | SARA
[04:49] <ubotu> SARA: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:49] <bruenig> garryb, that was hardly a recommendation
[04:49] <bryan[c1] > it goes to a menu where i have to choose to "install or run it", then i hit F6 for boot options, replace casper with live and it just crashes.
[04:49] <Schumbi> Spasticteapot you seem to be some kind of angree    and to sleep one night and to try ist again on an other day may help
[04:49] <SARA> i dont know how?
[04:49] <jrib> SARA: see the link from ubotu
[04:49] <garryb> bruenig: agreed... i'm just a little disgruntled from that time :-)
[04:49] <bruenig> bryan[c1] , just choose install or run it, stop going to the options
[04:49] <Spasticteapot> Schumbi: This is the third day I've asked this.
[04:49] <bruenig> I used it before a few years ago and didn't really have any problems
[04:49] <bryan[c1] > i have to or it will start to install it, then it will crash.
[04:49] <loopdee> What should I do if my wireless link does not get an IP address. I know the name and key is correct.
[04:50] <bryan[c1] > so i've been trying to run liveCD, which you have told me how to do and isn't working.
[04:50] <Schumbi> Spasticteapot oh thats bad -.-
[04:50] <cablesm102> loopdee, is it set up to use DHCP?
[04:50] <IamEthos> what is the command to run sshd?
[04:50] <loopdee> cablesm102, it is DHCP
[04:50] <bruenig> bryan[c1] , what do you mean it starts to install, after you get to the desktop and run that icon? or do you never get to the desktop?
[04:50] <xzk> how do I set ubuntu into laptop mode ?
[04:50] <bryan[c1] > i dont get to the desktop
[04:50] <Spasticteapot> Schumbi: I wish I could just apt-get mysanity back
[04:50] <bryan[c1] > it just automatically goes to the install menu
[04:50] <garryb> xzk: is it installed?  if it's installed, it's: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:51] <bryan[c1] > where you dont even get a mouse cursor.
[04:51] <cablesm102> xzk, if it's a laptop, it'll automatically do laptoppy stuff like showing a battery monitor
[04:51] <bruenig> bryan[c1] , try the alternate cd
[04:51] <bruenig> !alternate
[04:51] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:51] <SARA> i still dont understand
[04:51] <jrib> SARA: did you read the link from ubotu?
[04:51] <garryb> lamethos: is it installed?  if it's installed, it's: /etc/init.d/sshd start or something like that
[04:51] <bryan[c1] > how do i get an alternate CD?
[04:51] <Akuma_> what's a good app a can use for html to pdf conversion?
[04:51] <garryb> akuma_: Firefox
[04:51] <bryan[c1] > im not going to wait another 4 months for it to show up, if that is what you're expecting.
[04:52] <jrib> bryan[c1] : ubuntu.com click on download
[04:52] <xzk> cablesm102: when I use ubuntu my laptops battery doesnt last as long as it does in winXP.. and I read on the forums that their is a laptop mode, something about ubuntu being in desktop mode on default and it has to be switched to laptop mode
[04:52] <SARA> yes
[04:52] <garryb> akuma_: Print it to a file (it will be a .ps), and type "ps2pdf file.ps" in the shell (you might have to install it)
[04:52] <bryan[c1] > omg, i dont have a CD burner on this computer.
[04:52] <cablesm102> xzk, are you using Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft?
[04:52] <jrib> SARA: join me in #ubuntu-classroom by typing:  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[04:52] <xzk> cablesm102: edgy
[04:52] <SARA> join #ubuntu-classroom
[04:53] <Akuma_> garryb: wont i loose some stuff by converting twice though?
[04:53] <jrib> SARA: you need the / in front
[04:53] <cablesm102> xzk, in that case, I don't know. Maybe it doesn't support scaling on your CPU
[04:53] <cablesm102> Akuma_, it's not like a lossy image format
[04:53] <bruenig> Akuma_, it is not a music file
[04:53] <cablesm102> ha, 2 examples
[04:53] <garryb> akuma_: Usually not.  PDF and PS are both vector formats.  If it screws up your document, it will be completely screwed and you will know it
[04:54] <garryb> Sometimes ps2pdf chops off margins or leaves out large parts of your document, but this is really easy to verify
[04:54] <garryb> and it is rare
[04:54] <cablesm102> if you're still having issues, save the HTML, open it with OpenOffice, then save as PDF
[04:54] <Erb> I have a 19" monitor that I am hooking up to my notebook. Ubuntu's default resolution is 1024x768 which is fine for the notebook but cuts off the right and bottom side of the 19"  as it requires 1280x1024. What do I need to configure this? I have added 1280x1024 to the modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarted X to no avail. It won't add the 1280x1024 resolution
[04:54] <bryan[c1] > i have no idea why this isn't running live CD for me
[04:54] <cablesm102> bryan[c1] , neither do I. How much RAM do you have?
[04:54] <bryan[c1] > 256, more than enough.
[04:54] <Akuma_> cablesm102: bruenig: actually i was reading on latex and there were lots of warnings about latex -> dvi -> pdf, so its not like i'm making stuff up here
[04:54] <_`XeOn_> how do i register nick?
[04:55] <bestgs> hello
[04:55] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , you try all the boot options like noapci?
[04:55] <bryan[c1] > i dont know how to do that
[04:55] <garryb> Akuma_: Usuaully it's fine.  you'll occasionally find troubles with it, but not too often
[04:55] <bryan[c1] > :(
[04:55] <cablesm102> !ask|bestgs
[04:55] <ubotu> bestgs: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:55] <Akuma_> garryb: thanks, i'll try that. i just saw an app called html2pdf though, ever tried it?
[04:55] <kelsin> Akuma_: I use latex to dvi to pdf a lot for school work (all the time) and I havn't run into those problems yet :) so you should be safe
[04:55] <bryan[c1] > what is apci?
[04:56] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , rt(f)m, all the "f" keys explain various boot options
[04:56] <_`XeOn_> !ask register?
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask register? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <_`XeOn_> =)
[04:56] <bryan[c1] > where is rtfm?
[04:56] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, there should be details right when you go onto freenodes
[04:56] <mzuverink> ha ha
[04:56] <garryb> Akuma_: No.  Maybe it'll give you the advantage of letting you choose font sizes and everything so it paginates nicely... you can give it a shot
[04:56] <cablesm102> bryan[c1]  he's telling you to read the f-ing manual
[04:56] <bryan[c1] > how am i supposed to choose F if i dont even know what rtfm is?
[04:56] <_`XeOn_> kk
[04:56] <bryan[c1] > a manual?
[04:57] <garryb> read the forgotten manual
[04:57] <bryan[c1] > isn't this supposed to be a support channel?
[04:57] <cablesm102> bryan[c1] , no idea what he means, just what rtfm means.
[04:57] <wastrel> "read the fine manual"
[04:57] <wastrel> it is a very fine manual
[04:57] <preaction> bryan[c1] : not for such an all-encompassing subject as "What is ACPI?"
[04:57] <bryan[c1] > laugh.
[04:57] <Erb> Is the a channel for X Windows?
[04:57] <cablesm102> !acp
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <cablesm102> !acpi
[04:58] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:58] <gaspipe1> cablesm102: night and thanx
[04:58] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , yeas, but would you rather learn or just have everything given to you.  other people come in doing their homework before asking question.  Google is your freind
[04:58] <garryb> bryan[c1] : ACPI controls power on your computer.  It's responsible for stuff like suspend and hibernate.  It's also the thing that turns off your computer's power when you hit "shutdown" (remember when you had to wait until the computer safely shut down and then had to press the off button?)
[04:58] <Spasticteapot> Does anyone know where to get Guile 1.8 for Ubuntu?
[04:58] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , I dont mean to be rude, but you need, like every user needs, to learn how to ask smart questions
[04:59] <Schumbi> hm my xchat crashed -.-
[04:59] <bryan[c1] > so tell me, how am i supposed to read a fucking manual i don't even have?
[04:59] <preaction> also, a lot of us in here didn't have big, 900-user chat channels to ask questions to... we used google like the dinosaurs did and we LIKED IT
[04:59] <Akuma_> garryb: the firefox -> ps -> ps2pdf method works fine and is pretty simple, i'll stick to it for now. thanks
[04:59] <Spasticteapot> Stupid Guile 1.8 does'nt seem to freaking exist.
[04:59] <garryb> Akuma_: Great to be of service
[04:59] <mzuverink> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[05:00] <bryan[c1] > where do i obtain a fucking manual?
[05:00] <garryb> IRC is like a new country.  The social norm is to degrade people and be very careful about asking questions.  Like in China you don't want to be noisy, like in the United States you don't want to be quiet, in IRC you have to be bitter and know everything.
[05:00] <exs> How do I get Wine to launch IE to view a webpage, for example google?
[05:00] <Spasticteapot> bryan[c1] : Please stop whining.
[05:00] <bryan[c1] > amen to that garry.
[05:00] <garryb> bryan[c1] : wikipedia
[05:00] <Spasticteapot> exs: Why on earth would you want to do that?
[05:00] <BlueEagle> garryb: ...and??
[05:00] <garryb> it has an excellent article
[05:00] <exs> Spasticteapot:  compatibility
[05:00] <poquedoraqu> I just got a new cpu fan... whats this packet of "silicone for heat sink" do?
[05:01] <Schumbi> _`Xeon : if the english wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ) is as good as the german one than you perhaps take a look at it :)
[05:01] <psykidellic> hi...i a trying to do text mode installation of Xubuntu 6.06.1 and everything goes off well while installing sofwtare and all and then it just stops at the stage - "installing the grub package" and it stops there at 0%...so i am not able to boot my machine? what might be the problem?
[05:01] <bryan[c1] > im not whining, im just asking how to refer to a manual that is non-existent. it's not my fault you guys are being rude.
[05:01] <poquedoraqu> here's no instructions
[05:01] <tom47> bryan[c1] : have yu checked the cd contains no errors on the first menu?
[05:01] <xzk> poquedoraqu: you put it between the heatsink and the cpu
[05:01] <Spasticteapot> bryan[c1] : You walk up to people you've never met and ask them for information?
[05:01] <SurfnKid> hello
[05:01] <preaction> garryb: it's quite simple, like on the football field where the measure is might, here the measure is knowledge of computers. if you don't have it, and haven't tried to teach yourself, you get a wet towel upside the head
[05:01] <bryan[c1] > only on the internet.
[05:01] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , when you boot up the live disk is offers a bunch of f key options
[05:01] <poquedoraqu> xzk   You pour it on top of the cpu? ! ?
[05:01] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me with a broken installation
[05:01] <Erb> I have a 19" monitor that I am hooking up to my notebook. Ubuntu's default resolution is 1024x768 which is fine for the notebook but cuts off the right and bottom side of the 19"  as it requires 1280x1024. What do I need to configure this? I have added 1280x1024 to the modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarted X to no avail. It won't add the 1280x1024 resolution
[05:01] <Spasticteapot> bryan[c1] : Go ask the people who are paid to help you.
[05:01] <SurfnKid> upgrade actually
[05:01] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:02] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:02] <Spasticteapot> erb: Xorg.conf has all that good stuff.
[05:02] <weijie902> same for the single quote
[05:02] <saki> hey anyone know how to pick a specific sound card for use and disable the other one
[05:02] <bryan[c1] > (mzuverink): how do i run liveCD from tehre?
[05:02] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me with a broken upgrade to edgy
[05:02] <saki> because I have an integrated card and an after market one
[05:02] <garryb> bryan[c1] : "RTFM" became part of our vocabulary, but we don't always mean manual.  I gave you a basic description, but Wikipedia is nice that it will give you lots of sources to go through.  The Linux ACPI project is hosted at "http://acpi.sourceforge.net/", you can try to see if that leads you to what you need too.
[05:02] <poquedoraqu> im about to ruin my cpu arent i
[05:02] <Erb> Spasticteapot - I've altered it to no avail
[05:02] <poquedoraqu> :P
[05:03] <xzk> poquedoraqu: NO - put it on the heatsink or cpu and set it on top of it, the thermal paste is meant to go between the 2 of them
[05:03] <_`XeOn_> question
[05:03] <saki> and kubuntu is trying to use my integrated one, which is disabled in BIOS so doesn't work
[05:03] <bryan[c1] > does ACPI have to be off to run live cd?
[05:03] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , boot live cd, then hit f1 then f2.... read what it says, try a few things out.
[05:03] <tom47> bryan[c1] : not necessarily it depends on te he specifics of yr hardware
[05:03] <poquedoraqu> xzk So i squeeze it evenly over the bottom of the heatsiink, then set it down on the cpu?
[05:03] <preaction> poquedoraqu: only apply a little bit, like the size of the crescent on the bottom of your pinky nail
[05:03] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:03] <glyn> Hey can someone tell me how to get Mp3s playing please?
[05:03] <Schumbi> poquedoraqu : be careful  only between cpu an heatsink ^^
[05:04] <poquedoraqu> okay thanks
[05:04] <mzuverink> bryan[c1] , sometimes acpi needs to be turned off to work around a faulty bios, i was using that as an example ONLY
[05:04] <preaction> poquedoraqu: you may want to look on google for more precise instructions
[05:04] <poquedoraqu> okay
[05:04] <psykidellic> glyn: you dont have to do anything...if your sound card is recognised just use XMMS
[05:04] <xzk> poquedoraqu: exactly, but don't use too much - we don't want it to squeeze out the sides
[05:04] <Spasticteapot> erb: Go to #Linux, ask the question, and start praying to whatever deity you serve - the Flying Spaghetti Monster makes a good default.
[05:04] <preaction> damnit, he left...
[05:04] <_`XeOn_> why when i start up ubuntu it graphics go crazy like distortioned and then everything goes normal before log in screen
[05:04] <Schumbi> poquedoraqu is there is too much of it on the cpu and a little bit touches the pins on the other side of the cpu you get a problem
[05:04] <garryb> preaction: Finally, IRC people don't like vague questions and "executive summary" answers.  We're not businessmen.  Our currency is not deals or money, or fancy dinners.  Our currency is cold hard facts, nothing more, nothing less.
[05:04] <protocol2> there has to be one person that can answer my question
[05:04] <garryb> ambiguity is not tolerated
[05:05] <Spasticteapot> poquedoraqu: You want to use a very small amount of it, acutually.
[05:05] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, just issues with usplash. You can disable the fancy boot graphics if they're buggy on your system
[05:05] <mzuverink> I propose we add the above smart questions link to the topic
[05:05] <loopdee> sudo iwconfig show ath0 has a link to my wireless, but cannot pull IP
[05:05] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:05] <preaction> garryb: ambiguity leaves room for error, errors or bugs means that you're an idiot and didn't think enough
[05:05] <_`XeOn_> could be video card? or ram?
[05:05] <Spasticteapot> poquedoraqu: Arctic Silver Ceramique is non-conductive, which is nice.
[05:05] <xzk> he left :(
[05:05] <preaction> Spasticteapot: he's been gone for a while now :p
[05:05] <Mamoru17> anyone know much about beryl?
[05:05] <xzk> he probably squirting the thermal paste all over his cpu by now rofl
[05:06] <garryb> Mamoru17: it's slightly buggy but fun.  I leave it off most of the time
[05:06] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_: I'd say video. If it doesn't work, I'd just disable it. I can walk you through that if you want
[05:06] <bryan[c1] > i am?
[05:06] <psykidellic> any body knows why the installation might stop at "installing GRUB package" step?
[05:06] <preaction> xzk: before he left i told him a little bit
[05:06] <mzuverink> !ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:06] <Mamoru17> i'm trying to figure out why it won't display a skydome on my latitude 120L
[05:06] <_`XeOn_> cablem102 how to?
[05:06] <Crescendo_> What's the best way to get gDesklets running on every startup?
[05:06] <cablesm102> !beryl|Mamoru17
[05:06] <ubotu> Mamoru17: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:06] <weijie902> Cresendo_: got to sessions in prefs
[05:06] <garryb> weijie902: do you have a chinese keyboard?
[05:06] <xzk> preaction: I dunno why he didn't just read it.. they always have directions for stuff like that
[05:06] <weijie902> garryb: no
[05:06] <ubuntu> hehehhe
[05:06] <ubuntu> heheehhheheheeh
[05:06] <weijie902> garryb: normal us intl
[05:07] <preaction> xzk: maybe they didn't, who knows what with the chinese stuff they have these days
[05:07] <_`XeOn_> thats a happy starting
[05:07] <xzk> preaction: I ordered a video card that came with thermalpaste before.. and even IT had directions that told what to do with it.. so I'm almost certain a CPU would have
[05:07] <eetfunk> hi, i am trying to install postgresql 8.2 on edgy, but the package is not available, it's only available for Feisty (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/postgresql-8.2)  What should I do (besides compiling it manually)
[05:07] <Pupeno> Hello.
[05:07] <Pupeno> Where's that old nice script that used iptables -save and -restore that one would put in /etc/init.d/iptables ?
[05:07] <ubuntu> !amd64
[05:07] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[05:07] <xzk> preaction: yeah you're right
[05:07] <Spasticteapot> preaction: You do realize that ubuntu is oriented towards non-english users, right?
[05:07] <weijie902> garryb: i think its the server kernel
[05:08] <preaction> Spasticteapot: i was being facetious, at least about the racism
[05:08] <garryb> weijie902: Ubuntu knows your keyboard is US international right?
[05:08] <garryb> then i wouldn't know...
[05:08] <weijie902> garryb: the installer said so
[05:08] <preaction> Spasticteapot: could be worse, most american stuff comes with very detailed but very incorrect instructions
[05:08] <garryb> ah so it figured it out for yo u
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> Man, I've been huffing diesel fuel all night.  I'm so lightheaded.
[05:08] <Spasticteapot> preaction: To paraphrase Mel Brooks in reference to my life: "I'm surrounded by assholes!"
[05:08] <preaction> Spasticteapot: or worse: drivers with rootkits
[05:09] <Spasticteapot> preaction: Sony...them I hate.
[05:09] <glyn> I'm running an old version of Ubuntu so I need a link to the MP3 repositories
[05:09] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:09] <glyn> the howto thing
[05:09] <Spasticteapot> I have no beef against any race or religion.
[05:09] <tom47> poor old Mel .... i guss being a turd it gets that way
[05:09] <preaction> !restrictedformats > glyn
[05:09] <weijie902> what about scientology?
[05:09] <Spasticteapot> Certian corporations...them I hate.
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[05:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:09] <glyn> thanks
[05:09] <Spasticteapot> weijie902: Scientologists exist for a simple purpose : to make us all feel better about ourselves.
[05:09] <garryb> weijie902: well, keyboard layout is the only thing I'd think would cause that to happen...
[05:10] <weijie902> garryb: what about usb-handoff.. or the server kernel ?
[05:10] <wolfjb> I have suddenly started getting this message : (update-desktop-database:32563): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_get_string_list: assertion `group_name != NULL' failed on my edgy laptop and it seems to be related to totem-xine, what can I do about this - it is blocking all of my upgrades
[05:10] <Schumbi> Spasticteapot : a great they joined germany some days ago -.-
[05:11] <tom47> !restricted formats | glyn
[05:11] <ubotu> glyn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <loopdee> when i use wifi radar, i see my neighboors wireless but not mine, my broadcast is on...
[05:11] <ubuntu> see here http://fixxxer.cc/idesk/screen_xfce4.jpg
[05:11] <ubuntu> what woman
[05:11] <Schumbi> loopdee : tried to switch the channel?
[05:11] <tom47> glyn how old is your ubuntu ie what version?
[05:12] <ljlolel> ubuntu started in 2004 i think
[05:12] <ljlolel> 4.06 might have been the first version
[05:12] <ljlolel> or 4.10
[05:12] <hanasaki> running 6.10    everytime the screensaver, in gnome, goes on, X dies and restarts in gdm .. there are no errors in syslog
[05:12] <tom47> 4.10 i theenk
[05:12] <Schumbi> oh my batteries ruin out   cu
[05:13] <SkirK> which is the name of the browser on Shell??
[05:13] <loopdee> Schumbi, no because it is working fine with the 2 other wireless computers i here...
[05:13] <preaction> SkirK: gnome-sensible-browser, or do you mean elinks?
[05:13] <kelsin> SkirK: do you mean a command line browser?
[05:13] <mzuverink> links, lynx....
[05:14] <SkirK> yep
[05:14] <kelsin> SkirK: yeah those two, or w3m
[05:14] <wastrel> w3m
[05:14] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:14] <Spasticteapot> Anyone here know where I can get Guile 1.8?
[05:14] <SkirK> ok
[05:14] <SkirK> tnz
[05:14] <preaction> are there any terminal web browsers that support javascript?
[05:14] <FunnyMan3595> Is there a quick way to get the installed version (if any) of a package from the command line?
[05:14] <jrib> Spasticteapot: http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/
[05:15] <kaatil> i have question.. how to set gdm display manager as default?
[05:15] <bushblows> I am trying to compile freeradius on a fresh install of ubuntu server 6.06, i have the gcc libraries and i
[05:15] <bushblows>                    got build-essential, but after doing make i get error 2
[05:15] <weijie902> kaatil: somethng to do with dpkg-reconfigure...
[05:15] <bushblows> could i succesfully progress and have a succeful install
[05:15] <weijie902> kaatil: google for dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:15] <protocol2> hello
[05:16] <protocol2> am I in the right room?
[05:16] <FunnyMan3595> protocol2: For saying hello?  Not really.  Got an ubuntu question?  Yeah.
[05:16] <protocol2> is it possible to get ATI all in wonder 9800 pro drivers working ubuntu with 3d acceleration?
[05:16] <ubuntu> !ati
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <mzuverink> bushblows, dont worry about those error messages, the system will be fine
[05:16] <bushblows> ok thank you
[05:16] <Madpilot> protocol2, a 9800 should work fine; my 9600XT does
[05:17] <ubuntu> protocol 2 see what ubotu say
[05:17] <shatrat> ,
[05:17] <Bhaskar> i have dual boot: i reinstall XP, so XP override grub of ubuntu, now how can i install grub so that i can find my previous ubuntu
[05:17] <protocol2> Madpilot, I am going to reinstall edgy and do this  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guid
[05:17] <mister_roboto> FunnyMan3595: dpkg -s <pkg> works
[05:18] <wolfjb> how do I get rid of totem xine when I keep getting this error (update-desktop-database:32563): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_get_string_list: assertion `group_name != NULL' failed ?
[05:18] <tom47> !grub | Bhaskar
[05:18] <ubotu> Bhaskar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:18] <protocol2> Madpilot, method 2
[05:18] <mzuverink> Bhaskar, http://easylinux.info, read about fresh install of windows and restoring grub
[05:18] <loopdee> Bhaskar, maybe boot with ubuntu cd, run dpkg-reconfigure grub ? or something simialr
[05:18] <FunnyMan3595> Okay, I can't resist.  Thank you very much, mister_roboto
[05:18] <FunnyMan3595> :)
[05:18] <mister_roboto> lol
[05:18] <ubuntu> protocol2 the page say that there is not information
[05:18] <ubuntu> protocol2 There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
[05:19] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me with a broken upgrade to edgy
[05:19] <Madpilot> protocol2, the Ubuntu 'way' works here... and  you left an 'e' off the end of that URL
[05:19] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Looks like he dropped an e from the end of the URL
[05:19] <protocol2> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:19] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:20] <Morydd> Hi, I'm using dapper, and trying to run phpmyadmin, but when I load the main page of phpmyadmin, I'm getting a 500 error from the .htaccess file "Options not allowed here" what do I need to change to fix this?
[05:20] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 ok thanks man
[05:21] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: No problem.
[05:21] <weijie902> Morydd: try the php channel or sth
[05:22] <ubuntu>   FunnyMan3595:  python-wxgtk
[05:22] <Morydd> weijie902: it's not a php issue at all. it's with the config of apche in ubuntu. I'm just not sure where I need to look to find the right file
[05:22] <FunnyMan3595> Sorry, meant to hit /w ubotu.  ><
[05:23] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 i can't write in private.OK no problem
[05:23] <weijie902> Morydd: sorry, im not skilled in that area... please help morydd guys
[05:23] <FunnyMan3595> Checking to see if he has anything useful before I ask the channel.  :)
[05:24] <hanasaki> I am doing some updates with aptget.. its reproting "not in gzip format"
[05:24] <tupa> does anyone know how to cross-compile applications for windows using QT libraries?
[05:25] <ubuntu>   FunnyMan3595:  Aha and what did you find
[05:26] <infidel> e.net
[05:26] <marek> anyone familiar with ati driver issues that wants to help me out?
[05:27] <garryb> marek: i have an ATI that works flawlessly
[05:27] <ubuntu>   FunnyMan3595:one question.Do you know some program that work like Remotely Anywhere.Becouse when i install UBuntu i want to have one like this becouse in times and enter from INternet
[05:27] <garryb> marek: won't run 3d graphics at any decent speed, but that's fine with me
[05:27] <marek> i can't get it to actually use fglrx
[05:27] <ubuntu>   FunnyMan3595:It work with INternet explorer and FIrefox.ENter yourip and then you can remotely control you pc
[05:27] <garryb> oh, well, can't help you there
[05:27] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Nothing useful yet.  I'm looking for a way to install wxpython2.6 for python2.5, but the wxpython versions in the repos all use 2.4, as far as I can tell.
[05:28] <marek> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:28] <marek> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:28] <marek> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:28] <marek> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:28] <marek> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[05:28] <ubuntu> !wxpython2.6
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxpython2.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Oh, you're looking for remote desktop software.
[05:28] <_`XeOn_> cablem102: it didnt work
[05:28] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: It's actually called python-wxgtk2.6
[05:28] <wastrel> dooooooooon't paste in here pleaseeeeeeeeee
[05:28] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: To put it under python heading, I guess.
[05:28] <marek> oh, sorry
[05:28] <wastrel> marek did you read the instructions on the wikipage?
[05:28] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 hmmm but to work with FIrefox
[05:28] <marek> yeah
[05:28] <ubuntu> !python
[05:28] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[05:28] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_: Sorry about that... I'm looking for an article on how to disable it
[05:28] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: What do you want to be able to do.
[05:29] <FunnyMan3595> ?
[05:29] <wastrel> did you add the stuff to your xorg.conf to turn off composite?
[05:29] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 to control pc from INternet
[05:29] <loopdee> okay, when I do, sudo iwconfig ath0 ap xx xx xx xx xx xx , it says interface doesn't support IP address, what is wrong here ?
[05:29] <marek> i got fglrx and installed it, ran the aticonfig commands
[05:29] <marek> no errors or anything reported
[05:29] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: In what respect?  Full GUI access?  Shell access? Ability to start/stop services?
[05:29] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:29] <jadacyrus> how can I make sure that cron daemon will execute my script as root?
[05:29] <marek> xorg.conf specifies fglrx
[05:29] <_`XeOn_> no worries anyways i like to research to but thats a minor problem
[05:29] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 full GUI access
[05:29] <loopdee> forgot the :
[05:29] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 and to stop services too
[05:30] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 Shell Access too
[05:30] <wastrel> marek:  did you turn off composite in xorg.conf?
[05:30] <marek> yeah
[05:30] <wastrel> is the fglrx module loading?
[05:30] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Okay, you need remote desktop apps.  Once you've got GUI access, you can do whatever you like from there.  You really need to set up shell access to do the GUI access anyway.
[05:30] <marek> how do i check that?
[05:30] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 and from where i can download it.
[05:30] <wastrel> lsmod |grep fglrx
[05:31] <marek> i got two responses fglrx and agpgart
[05:31] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Next question: Why?  Is it just so you can access your home desktop while at work and vice-versa, or is it a machine that you won't have physical access to for long periods of time?
[05:32] <Sergo> hellhello
[05:32] <Sergo> how to run command in ubuntu
[05:32] <wastrel> which command?
[05:32] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 becouse if sometimes i want to enter in the pc.To enter without problem.To do everything like i'm in the pc
[05:32] <weijie902> Sergo: go to the terminal
[05:32] <BlueEagle> sergo: ALT+F2 or open a terminal emulator.
[05:32] <weijie902> nah use gnome-terminal
[05:33] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 man try remotely anywhere it is good.
[05:33] <shatrat> use terminal window from Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:33] <Sergo> wastrel: i want to connet to an client from lan
[05:33] <wastrel> marek:  well fglrx is loading.  grep for fglrx in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  mebby
[05:33] <nrdb> Hi I am having trouble getting a laptop to connect to the internet via a dialup connection.  I have the ppp0 interface up, it is receiving/transmitting packets, 'route' has four lines one says 'default * 0.0.0.0 ... ppp0' but I can't seem to ping anything (including ip addresses) can anyone help?
[05:33] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Easiest method is through System->Preferences->Remote Desktop.  That lets you set up a VNC copy of the desktop that you see, for as long as you're logged in.
[05:34] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 i try it yestarday but the connection didn't was very fast
[05:34] <marek> wastrel: i noticed a line that aticonfig put in my xorg.conf => Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
[05:34] <marek> should i change that to false?
[05:34] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 and this was from computer from lan computer
[05:34] <Sergo> \\172.17.1.48
[05:34] <Sergo> weijie902 : and?
[05:34] <Sergo> go to terminal...
[05:34] <Sergo> i'm a linux newbie..
[05:34] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Yeah, the problem is that a *lot* of information goes across the connection to the monitor.
[05:35] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 there need to be some program like remotely anywhere for Ubuntu
[05:35] <weijie902> applications->utilities>terminal
[05:35] <wastrel> marek:  i don't have that at all, comment it out maybe...
[05:35] <Sergo> BlueEagle: thanks! work
[05:35] <Sergo> -)
[05:35] <weijie902> Sergo: i think..
[05:35] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 in this program it ask you in what access to enter.Like java to show screen,Adobe flash,Firefox or Html pictures.
[05:36] <wolfjb> totem-* is has some serious problems - currently causing failure of other packages to install/uninstall - anyone with similar experiences or a fix?
[05:36] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: The other one I use fairly often is just a simple ssh -X from another linux box.  It doesn't send the raw graphics info, just the info used to build the graphics.
[05:36] <marek> k, and in my log it says fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled. How do i enable that in fglrx?
[05:36] <ThomBrown> guys . . . can I use these to install the proprietary drivers in Feisty Fawn??  (sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install libquicktime-dev
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install quicktime-utils
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install quicktime-x11utils
[05:36] <FunnyMan3595> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:36] <ThomBrown> sudo aptitude install libdvdread3
[05:36] <Mach> H
[05:37] <jrib> ThomBrown: feisty fawn support in #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <wastrel> marek:  you'll want to see the lines before that for the reason.
[05:37] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 hmmm that is bad man,becouse from where i enter they only have installed WIndows XP
[05:37] <wastrel> marek:  are you using beryl/xgl ?
[05:37] <wastrel> or trying to?
[05:37] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 and i want one program to work for all OS
[05:37] <marek> trying to
[05:37] <marek> at least try it out
[05:37] <wastrel> aiglx may be your problem.
[05:37] <AmbientMst1> Can someone help me with the install of Ubuntu?
[05:37] <wastrel> i, however know nothing about beryl
[05:38] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: VNC will, actually, you can set up windows servers as well.
[05:38] <FunnyMan3595> AmbientMst1: What stage are you at?  Just starting, or trying to fix a problem?
[05:38] <wastrel> ask on #ubuntu-xgl maybe
[05:38] <ubuntu> FunnyMan3595 yes i see it yestarday but it work slow,and how i say it was from lan connection.
[05:38] <AmbientMst1> I'm trying to fix a problem
[05:38] <AmbientMst1> I stick in the boot disk
[05:38] <marek> k, thanks a lot wastrel
[05:38] <AmbientMst1> And it won't work
[05:38] <AmbientMst1> I get the screen and everything
[05:38] <intelligentfool> wow, this is my first time using IRC believe it or not, i like
[05:38] <AmbientMst1> Then when I say Start and Install
[05:39] <AmbientMst1> It says IO Error: Boot disk cannot be read
[05:39] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Yeah, the problem with VNC is that it's a graphics-based approach.  Basically, you're streaming a movie of the contents of the desktop.
[05:39] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:39] <AmbientMst1> But it checked itself and there's no defects!
[05:39] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 hmmm very bad
[05:40] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: There may be something better out there in FOSS, but I don't know about it.
[05:40] <Erb> Where do I go to configure new hardware?
[05:40] <adamwest> guys how do you choose a login screen? every time i logout the system hangs :\
[05:40] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 they need to make something like this http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/
[05:40] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: When RA goes open source, we'll be happy to make a fork.  Until then, we gots to make our own stuffs.
[05:41] <elyon225> Okay, so in an attempt to fix my staticy sound, I removed my PCI sound card and enabled the onboard.  Now, I have NO sound.  I followed the "DebuggingSoundProblems" in the Ubuntu docs and aplay and KMix both show the correct device, but I still have no sound.  Any ideas?
[05:41] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 hmm can you make something like RA
[05:41] <intelligentfool> has anyone else had any problems with Beryl causing a logout?
[05:41] <intelligentfool> if i hit "shift + backspace" i get logged out
[05:41] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: And that's nontrivial.  Saying we want "something like RA" is complicated, it's a big piece of software.
[05:42] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 no man it is onlye 6 mb
[05:42] <BlueEagle> intelligentfool: That's a known "feature" and it's listed in the faq iirc.
[05:42] <jrib> intelligentfool: are you using xgl?
[05:42] <intelligentfool> doh
[05:42] <poquedoraqu> I stink at this hardware stuff. I have a fan, a wierd thing with some sort of adhesive on top of it, a tube of heat sink silicone, and no instructions.
[05:42] <intelligentfool> yea
[05:42] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: Have you ever looked at how much text 6mb is?
[05:42] <BlueEagle> intelligentfool: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:42] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 now i download it to try is it work with wine
[05:42] <kitche> ubuntu there is tons of programs like that check out sourceforge there is probably an app like that
[05:42] <ubuntu> kitche where to look man
[05:42] <jrib> intelligentfool: it's a "feature" of xgl.  Google for xgl shift backspace  and you should get a workaround.  Uses xmomdmap iirc
[05:42] <FunnyMan3595> ubuntu: A full-length novel fits in a MB or two.  That's *big*
[05:42] <intelligentfool> ah
[05:43] <kitche> ubuntu, sourceforge.net
[05:43] <intelligentfool> thats a pretty anoying 'feature'
[05:43] <mitrovarr> what's the  best program for remote controlling a ubuntu machine over a lan?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 maybe some day it will be released.
[05:43] <adamwest> guys is there a way to configure the login screen from xfce? it hangs whenever i logout and if i restart it's this weird login instead of the normal one
[05:43] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 did you make the phyton
[05:43] <BlueEagle> mitrovarr: imo that would be ssh
[05:43] <FunnyMan3595> AmbientMst1: What's the delay between pressing "Start and Install" and seeing that error?
[05:43] <AngryElf> is there anyway to disable the "sorry there's been a crash dialog......" dialog?
[05:44] <AngryElf> :/
[05:44] <ubuntu> mirtovarr VNC
[05:44] <mitrovarr> BlueEagle:  Oh, I didn't mean like that.  I meant graphical.  Ssh is great, though.
[05:44] <BlueEagle> mitrovarr: So did I tbh.
[05:44] <ubuntu> kitche thanks for the link
[05:45] <BlueEagle> mitrovarr: I run quanta over ssh on a regular basis.
[05:45] <ubuntu> mitrovarr VNC
[05:45] <mitrovarr> BlueEagle:  I'll look into it
[05:45] <mitrovarr> thanks guys
[05:45] <valehru> Hey guys, I'm positive that ndiswrapper is installed and that the driver has been added to it.  However my wifi card is not showing up in the network manager.
[05:45] <valehru> any hints?
[05:45] <ubuntu> lebowski do you know PICHAGA
[05:45] <lebowski> ubuntu, no
[05:45] <adamwest> GUYS is there a way to reinstall this whole system with an environment i choose? it seems any time i try to install a new DE something bad happens D:
[05:45] <ubuntu> lebowski ok
[05:45] <lebowski> ubuntu, who/what is that?
[05:46] <mitrovarr> the hope is to use a useless slow laptop to control a more interesting computer
[05:46] <ubuntu> lebowski go in they forum on Lebowski they know me.
[05:46] <elyon225> Okay, so in an attempt to fix my staticy sound, I removed my PCI sound card and enabled the onboard.  Now, I have NO sound.  I followed the "DebuggingSoundProblems" in the Ubuntu docs and aplay and KMix both show the correct device, but I still have no sound.  Any ideas?
[05:46] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to disable the "start new session/restore session" dialog in Firefox that comes up after a crash/improper shutdown/whatever....?
[05:46] <ubuntu> Funnyman3595 bad i can't install RA on wine becouse it use .msi
[05:47] <FunnyMan3595> AngryElf: Lemme look...
[05:47] <shatrat> elyon225, open up alsamixer in terminal and make sure nothing important is muted, see that it is looking at the proper device?
[05:47] <valehru> AngryElf, quit firefox gracefully, via File -> quit
[05:47] <shatrat> AngryElf, you can also change some settings in about:config to disable it, but I forget exactly which ones
[05:47] <valehru> So does anyone know how I can get this wifi card to appear in my network manager?
[05:47] <AngryElf> valehru, yea, I'll try that next time it crashes
[05:48] <AngryElf> shatrat, yea, all the FAQs say to change browser.sessionstore.enabled  to false -- well it's not there
[05:48] <FunnyMan3595> AngryElf: Zing.
[05:48] <elyon225> shatrat: Yep... not muted and it shows the right device.
[05:48] <shatrat> AngryElf: create one
[05:48] <gnoodles> Hi Everyone...
[05:48] <AngryElf> shatrat, how?
[05:49] <ubuntu> ok bye i'm going to sleep
[05:49] <weijie902> hi i installed edgy server, with the usb-handoff kernel option. now i cant type the double quotes symbol, when i press that button nothing happens, when i press it twice it appears but doesnt work on google
[05:49] <AngryElf> shatrat, got it, didn't know I could create one, thanx :)
[05:49] <BlueEagle> weijie902: By double quotes do you mean "?
[05:49] <shatrat> AngryElf: right click and create a New  Boolean with the value false
[05:49] <gnoodles> Anyone know if there's a way to add a "restart into Windows" option in the restart dialog box? IE, SO I don't need to be there for the Grub screen?
[05:49] <shatrat> youre welcome
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: yeah
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: and the single quote
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: and the single quote
[05:50] <BlueEagle> weijie902: '
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: yes
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: same key
[05:50] <shatrat> elyon225: I wish I could be more use, but sound confuses me too in linux.  Id check out the ubuntuforums.org multimedia forums and do some searching around about your chipset
[05:50] <BlueEagle> weijie902: Whichs keyboard layout are you using?
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: ithink its the server kernel
[05:50] <weijie902> BlueEagle: us intl
[05:51] <tom47> gnoodles is this a frequent requirement?
[05:51] <valehru> ok, I have the ndiswrapper driver installed for my BCM4310 card.  I get bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware present .  I have modprobe ndiswrapper; and still the wifi card is not appearing, the light isnt even turned on for it to signal that it is working.  This is the same driver I use for windows which works perfectly.  Help is needed here.
[05:51] <BlueEagle> weijie902: Oh, I wouldn't know about that. Might it be a dead key?
[05:51] <BlueEagle> weijie902: ie. nodeadkeys might help.
[05:51] <gnoodles> Not frequent, but when I need it, it's annoying to have to sit here waiting for the computer to restart...
[05:51] <FunnyMan3595> gnoodles: Sounds like a good feature, but I'm not sure if there's an easy way to do it.
[05:51] <Morydd> when trying to load phpmyadmin, I'm getting "Cannot load session extension. Please check your PHP configuration." any thoughts
[05:51] <BlueEagle> valehru: Do you need to upload firmware?
[05:51] <weijie902> BlueEagle: it works (not correctly) when i hit it twice
[05:51] <FunnyMan3595> gnoodles: You can reset the default via /boot/grub/menu.lst...
[05:51] <shatrat> valehru: maybe you should try installing a different application to manage it, I use the NetworkManager thing from the gnome project and it works great
[05:51] <tom47> gnoodles yes i agree ... i solved it by running windows inside a vmware server in ubuntu
[05:52] <weijie902> BlueEagle: and i cant do a google search for an exact phrase with that pseudo-symbol that appears
[05:52] <BlueEagle> weijie902: That indicates it being a dead key like ^ for making  and so on. Try hitting it and then hitting o or a
[05:52] <tom_> kraziness
[05:52] <FunnyMan3595> tom47: What are you using?
[05:52] <tom47> gnoodles the other advantage s that way you can get files readily to and from both os environments
[05:52] <valehru> BlueEagle, no I don't need to upload firmware, why would I?
[05:53] <gnoodles> I've contemplated that... So far haven't gotten around to it.
[05:53] <BlueEagle> valehru: Because many wireless cards needs to have firmware uploaded to work.
[05:53] <tom47> FunnyMan3595: would you like to be more specific???
[05:53] <gnoodles> How compatible is it? Any problem apps?
[05:53] <tom47> gnoodles i find it works very well
[05:53] <valehru> shatrat, I have network-manager and  network-manager-gnome installed
[05:53] <FunnyMan3595> tom47: For the topic at hand, running windows inside ubuntu.  Or am I being dense and now pounding my head since it's called "vmware"...
[05:53] <Sergo_> hello
[05:53] <tom47> gnoodles as far as i can see its by far the most straightforward way if you must have windows available on the same pc
[05:53] <gnoodles> I assume that it won't work for things like games, correct?
[05:53] <tom_> hello
[05:54] <shatrat> valehru: I think blueeagle is onto something.
[05:54] <valehru> BlueEagle, I am using the original firmware for this driver, bcmwl5.inf
[05:54] <FunnyMan3595> tom47: I'm betting on density.
[05:54] <weijie902> BlueEagle: oh.. ill try that when i get home
[05:54] <BlueEagle> weijie902: ie. are you getting  instead of "?
[05:54] <weijie902> BlueEagle: yes
[05:54] <Marupa> hi, I'm trying to access a windows XP network share on ubuntu, but I can't get access to it.  I know I can see it, because I've seen it before.
[05:54] <Sergo_> can i run \\COMPNAME with ALT+F2 ?
[05:54] <D7k> would you say an ibook g4 1ghz is deffinately ready for a life of ubuntu?
[05:54] <BlueEagle> weijie902: Then it's your keymap that is borked.
[05:54] <weijie902> BlueEagle: oh yes!
[05:54] <Sergo_> BlueEagle
[05:54] <BlueEagle> sergo_?
[05:54] <Sergo_> can be runned \\COMPNAME with ALT+F2 ?
[05:54] <gnoodles> FunnyMan3595: Yes, he's talking about vmware
[05:54] <valehru> shatrat, I'm using the original firmware that works 100% with XP.
[05:54] <tom47> FunnyMan3595: i have VMWare Server running in ubuntu.  I then run windows inside that .... beats the dual boot for the reasons stated
[05:54] <weijie902> BlueEagle: dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:55] <FunnyMan3595> tom47: I assume it can just boot off of an existing windows partition?
[05:55] <BlueEagle> sergo_: What do you hope to achieve with running that? Have you got a program named \COMPNAME in your path?
[05:55] <kitche> valehru, if your using ndiswrapper then you don't need firmware
[05:55] <shatrat> valehru: to get my broadcom working with ndiswrapper I followed a how-to on the ubuntuforums and it worked right away, I dont know if there is a similar how-to for whatever your chipset is but Id start looking
[05:55] <Sergo_> BlueEagle i try to get on local server in local area connection
[05:55] <tom47> you boot up ubuntu as normal ... kicjk i=off vmware and ask it to start windows for you
[05:56] <shatrat> I thought firmware was the whole point of the wrapper? I should take up knitting or something easy
[05:56] <valehru> kitche, you definitely need firmware....thats the point
[05:56] <BlueEagle> sergo_: Ahh. Well that would be up to the gnome window manager or application to decide. I don't use gnome nor do I use smb so I wouldn't know.
[05:56] <tom47> windows in vmware has a special file called xxxx.vmx (inet alia) and that is the windows virtual disk
[05:56] <gnoodles> Does it work with things like games?
[05:56] <tom47> gnoodles its just like running windows
[05:56] <Sergo_> in kubuntu there was an application "Run Command"
[05:56] <shatrat> gnoodles: no 3D acceleration in vmware
[05:57] <Sergo_> easy
[05:57] <Sergo_> ..
[05:57] <shatrat> its alt F2 sergo
[05:57] <kitche> valehru, then get the firmware not hard to make it or find it but the .inf is not the firmware
[05:57] <weijie902> BlueEagle: dpkg-reconfigure console-common.. aha found it
[05:57] <tom47> gnoodles shtrat may be right i dont play games as such
[05:57] <shatrat> and I believe you can right click the gnome-panel and add a Run Command button to it
[05:57] <valehru> shatrat, I'm looking, but im in china at the moment and ubuntuforums.org is not accessible here due to the internet outage...slow as hell over here, a lot of US sites are unavailable.
[05:57] <weijie902> BlueEagle: youre sure its the keymap right?
[05:57] <BlueEagle> weijie902: good stuff
[05:57] <gnoodles> Thanks. I assumed games would be a problem. Not a problem since I rarely have time to play them anyway...
[05:57] <BlueEagle> weijie902: quite.
[05:57] <shatrat> valehru: whats your card and Ill do some looking
[05:58] <weijie902> BlueEagle: thanks !!
[05:58] <BlueEagle> weijie902: np
[05:58] <tarelerulz> Do you know of any program for window that can skrink ntfs partition that is free?
[05:58] <Sergo_> shatrat when i'm trying to access \\server there is error messeage
[05:58] <Sergo_> ..
[05:58] <valehru> shatrat, 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 UART (rev 01)
[05:58] <weijie902> going for lunch bye
[05:58] <Marupa> Any ideas about why I can't see network shares?
[05:59] <shatrat> Sergo_: can you not see it in Places -> Network Servers?
[05:59] <andre_> does anybody know how to configure a printer attached to a second pc that is running xp. both on a wired connection with router
[05:59] <gnoodles> Anyway, back to my original question, no one knows how to set the grub default for the next reboot before shutting down?
[05:59] <BlueEagle> andre_: That would be trough samba
[05:59] <Sergo_> shatrat maybe, but i configure the network in liveCd
[06:00] <Sergo_> maybe not at all
[06:00] <shatrat> valehru: THere is a how-to for that, its almost the same as the card I have. join #shatrat and if you cant get through to the link I can try and send you the page
[06:00] <elyon225> Okay, I've ruled out a hardware issue for my sound having so much static noise.  Anyone else have any ideas?  I've tried using both OSS and ALSA.
[06:00] <andre_> blue eaglez:  i have to install samba i thought samba was for older pc
[06:00] <shatrat> elyon225: try turning the volume down to like 80%
[06:01] <shatrat> mine is staticy too at 100%
[06:01] <tom47> gnoodles you could edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but that is sort of more trouble than its worth for one off situations
[06:01] <BlueEagle> andre_: samba is the *nix implementation of the SMB protocol. Windows shares pritners using this protocol.
[06:01] <BlueEagle> printers*
[06:01] <elyon225> shatrat: Hmm... I went all the way down to about 25% and it still is.
[06:02] <andre_> ok installing it now
[06:02] <Sergo_> hey
[06:02] <tarelerulz> I wanted to shrink my ntfs partition so I could use the free of a ext3 partion and then  copy  The need files for ubuntu to the partioins so I could install ubuntu with out useing and cd .
[06:02] <gnoodles> Yep. I was hoping for some sort of automated solution. I suppose that I could write a shell script, but I was hoping someone had already done it.
[06:02] <Sergo_> shatrat: but linux understand if i use \\comp i want to access an local area computer?
[06:02] <Sergo_> in ALT+f2
[06:02] <hyphenated> Sergo_: no
[06:03] <gnoodles> Which version of VMWare do you use? Workstation?
[06:03] <hyphenated> Sergo_: try smb://comp/ instead
[06:03] <tom47> Server
[06:03] <xp9542> hi guys, I'm having trouble writing to my newly mounted drive as a user, I basically installed a new hard drive formatted it as fat32, and then added the following: /dev/hdb1 /media/storage vfat rw,user 0 0 to my fstab file, but I can't write to the drive unless I act as root
[06:03] <tom47> the free Server
[06:03] <valehru> shatrat, thanks...have joined the channel
[06:03] <kitche> gnoodles, http://sidvind.com/wiki/GRUB:_Boot_another_OS_once
[06:03] <xp9542> anyone know how I can get user permissions to the drive? I tried chmod 777 on the folder as root, but that didn't really help
[06:03] <Sergo_> hyphenated in alt+f2  smb://comp/ ?
[06:03] <Sergo_> ;)
[06:04] <Sergo_> i'll try
[06:04] <hyphenated> Sergo_: for KDE, it's the equivalent of \\comp, I think (but am not certain) that it's the same for GNOME
[06:04] <Sergo_> in kde yes
[06:05] <Sergo_> sorry, but i'm asking for xubuntu
[06:05] <Sergo_> not gnome
[06:05] <Sergo_> is there diference?
[06:05] <Sergo_> any
[06:05] <hyphenated> of course there are differences :-)
[06:05] <tarelerulz> Sergo is xubuntu the version for the xbox
[06:06] <hyphenated> tarelerulz: no, it's the version that uses XFCE (a window manager) as the default instead of GNOME
[06:06] <kitche> tarelerulz, xubuntu has xfce has a desktop environment
[06:06] <gnoodles> kitche:  Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted.
[06:06] <cabrito> jeje
[06:06] <cabrito> hi
[06:06] <gnoodles> tom47: Thanks for the info on vmware. I'll try it out.
[06:06] <Erb> How do I add another monitor to xorg.conf? I am trying to attach a 19" to a notebook and it won't pick up the correct resolution.
[06:06] <tom47> nw
[06:07] <elyon225> Just wanted to let everyone know the I fixed my sound static problem.  All I needed to do was turn the volume in each offending program all the way to 100%.
[06:07] <Sergo_> i'll ask in #xubuntu
[06:07] <cabrito> i do have the same trouble Erb, i cant see 1200 in my desktop
[06:07] <nothlit> !xubuntu | Sergo_
[06:07] <ubotu> Sergo_: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[06:07] <nothlit> Sergo_, and thunar has no samba browsing support
[06:08] <tapas> damn feisty installer says: "ext3 creation of filesystem in partition #1 of ide1 master (hda) faile
[06:08] <tapas> d
[06:09] <tapas> ah, i'm stupid
[06:09] <akd> Anybody here use a System76 laptop?
[06:09] <Marupa> how do you change the workgroup on Ubuntu?
[06:09] <tapas> something mounted /dev/hda1
[06:10] <tapas> but it doesn't show up in mount otput
[06:10] <tapas> unmounting it worked though
[06:10] <cablesm102> akd, no.. do you? I've been wondering about them
[06:10] <akd> Marupa, check here: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_105.html
[06:11] <Marupa> thank you
[06:11] <tom47> Marupa System>Administration>Networking then the general tab
[06:11] <cabrito> i catch some trouble when i'll try to put in the console $sudo ./unload
[06:11] <SurfnKid> is there an Edgy eft DVD ISO???
[06:11] <cablesm102> SurfnKid, I think so...
[06:11] <cabrito> but i get this error !!
[06:11] <SurfnKid> !edgy
[06:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[06:11] <cabrito> ./load: 5: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[06:11] <cabrito> why ?
[06:11] <akd> tom47, I think he was referring to Workgroups in relation to Samba
[06:12] <SurfnKid> cablesm102: thx
[06:12] <kitche> cablesm102, that script has an extra ( in it
[06:12] <squeaks> hey, how can i find what package I need to install to get readline.h on my ubuntu system?
[06:12] <noobie0057> hello, is there a way to change a group of text files all at once?  (delete a line that meets a regex expression?)
[06:12] <tapas> squeaks: libreadline-dev
[06:12] <cablesm102> cablesm102, what has an extra (? i didn't send anything...
[06:12] <cablesm102> i mean kitche
[06:12] <tom47> akd k
[06:13] <squeaks> tapas, thanks!
[06:13] <tapas> [guessing without having ubuntu in front of me :)] 
[06:13] <squeaks> yea, i'm betting
[06:13] <kitche> cablesm102, that wasn't you tab complete got in the way
[06:13] <kitche> cabrito, there is an extra ( which shouldn't be in that script
[06:14] <arrenlex> squeaks, tapas: libreadline5-dev
[06:14] <squeaks> noobie0057, there are tons of ways to do this, i've done it with perl, probably, but you might try looking at things like awk, sed, etc
[06:15] <tapas> and the feisty installer always messes up my x display after selecting the keyboard layout
[06:15] <tapas> switching to console and back fixes it though
[06:15] <tapas> [kubuntu that is] 
[06:15] <noobie0057> squeaks: thanks, I know I could do it in ruby,, but I was hoping for a command line type solution
[06:15] <riotkittie> ok. stupid question time. is it possible to enter a command in a tty and have it run in X instead? :D
[06:16] <tapas> riotkittie: yes
[06:16] <kitche> riotkittie, no
[06:16] <tapas> :)
[06:16] <riotkittie> uh.
[06:16] <tapas> you have to set the DISPLAY variable accordingly
[06:16] <tapas> and configure your x server to accept that connection
[06:16] <riotkittie> tapas: ah, ok. thank you :)
[06:16] <tapas> [which might be non trivial] 
[06:17] <noobie0057> perhaps pipe a cat command to >> if it doesn't match a regex ?
[06:17] <squeaks> noobie0057, do you know grep -v ?
[06:18] <noobie0057> I'm not familiar with -v ,, I'm looking it up ..
[06:18] <tapas> i wonder how many apps survive my changing the system from debian unstable to kubuntu feisty under their feet
[06:18] <tapas> [taking my homedir with me] 
[06:19] <squeaks> noobie0057, my guess would be a bash script, perhaps a one liner of: for each name in ls, grep -v $(name) > $(name)
[06:20] <Xcalibre> W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[06:20] <squeaks> good luck!
[06:20] <Xcalibre> how do i fix dat?
[06:20] <noobie0057> squeaks thanks,, I think I have enough info,,
[06:21] <Xcalibre> ?
[06:22] <Xcalibre> W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[06:22] <Xcalibre> ?
[06:22] <tapas> Xcalibre: use a different mirror [guessing] 
[06:23] <Xcalibre> no you can fix that.
[06:23] <Xcalibre> !keys
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Xcalibre> !key
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <SurfnKid> could anyone give me a link
[06:24] <SurfnKid> to download edgy eft
[06:24] <SurfnKid> ISO DVD?
[06:24] <SurfnKid> please
[06:24] <riotkittie> SurfnKid: you should be able to find it on ubuntu.com
[06:24] <SurfnKid> I cant seeemt o find it
[06:24] <riotkittie> if not, its on quite a few torrent sites
[06:24] <SurfnKid> ah
[06:24] <SurfnKid> thats what i need ok ill chec
[06:25] <AmbientMst1> I downloaded Edgy and burned it, but it doesn't work
[06:25] <Marupa> Hmmm, that site didn't work really.  That's for hosting. I want to view.
[06:25] <riotkittie> AmbientMst1: elaborate on "doesnt work"?
[06:25] <Marupa> I need to figure out why I can't view windows shares from Ubuntu.
[06:26] <tapas> Marupa: try nmblookup "*"
[06:26] <riotkittie> Marupa: do you have samba and smbfs installed?
[06:26] <Marupa> Yes, i do.
[06:26] <Marupa> and that didn't show up with any shares, tapas.
[06:26] <yopad> question:  if a program is said to be for kde...say Kaffenie...can i use it under ubuntu gnome?
[06:26] <Marupa> Yes, yopad.
[06:27] <tarelerulz> When you resize a partition does that mean you take out of the free space on that partition?
[06:27] <tapas> Marupa: then it's probably a firewall ;)
[06:27] <riotkittie> Marupa: are you, by chance, attempting to view them through the Network/Windows PC / whatever in Nautilus?
[06:27] <yopad> why do they say its for kde ...and one is for something else
[06:27] <shatrat> yopad: yes, but you'll probably have to install lots of dependencies a long with it
[06:27] <Marupa> I doubt it, tapas.  I was able to see it the day I installed.
[06:27] <yopad> thanks guys
[06:27] <Marupa> I try to open smb://blah/share
[06:27] <AmbientMst1> Back
[06:27] <AmbientMst1> Oh
[06:27] <AmbientMst1> It "doesn't boot"
[06:28] <riotkittie> Marupa: try smb://ip.adress.here/share ?
[06:29] <riotkittie> AmbientMst1: doesnt boot as in you go right to windows, or doesnt boot as you get some kind of error during the boot process ?
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> Error during boot
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> It works fine
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> Right up until
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> I say Start Or Install Ubuntu
[06:29] <riotkittie> AmbientMst1: and then ?
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> I/O Error: Boot disk cannot be read
[06:29] <AmbientMst1> Or something like that
[06:29] <Erb> resolution
[06:30] <Xcalibre> W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[06:30] <Erb> screen resolution
[06:30] <riotkittie> oooooh, AmbientMst1. thats out of my league
[06:30] <Xcalibre> how do i fix dat?
[06:30] <AmbientMst1> Gr
[06:30] <Marupa> riotkittie, that works.
[06:30] <AmbientMst1> Sigh
[06:30] <shatrat> Xcalibre: its not really a problem, it just means that that medibuntu repository isnt signed, or you havent added their key
[06:30] <riotkittie> Xcalibre: ask the medibuntu people ?
[06:31] <Xcalibre> k
[06:31] <noiesmo> Xcalibre, answer here http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[06:31] <cabrito> i need help !! I can't install my Wireless Card. I'm looking into a tutorial. But i get an error when a put $su ./unload
[06:31] <Marupa> so the name resolution's failing, somehow.
[06:31] <noiesmo> Xcalibre, add the key as per instruction
[06:31] <ydnar> Can somebody tell me why Edgy recognizes my IPW2200BG as eth1 instead of wlan0? It makes it difficult for me to connect to wireless networks.
[06:31] <slap_me> hmmm
[06:31] <Xcalibre> k
[06:31] <slap_me> my ubuntu just fucked up
[06:31] <slap_me> oops
[06:31] <slap_me> sorry
[06:31] <slap_me> didnt meean to cuss
[06:31] <slap_me> i mean it MESSED up
[06:31] <slap_me> = \
[06:31] <riotkittie> Marupa: yeah, that seems to be a recurring problem for a lot of people :\
[06:32] <kitche> ydnar, becuase that's what linux devices are called think wlan0 is only used by ndiswrapper
[06:32] <Marupa> just add the share name to the hosts?
[06:32] <ydnar> kitche, is there a way for me to fix this?
[06:32] <slap_me> i dont know what happened to my ubuntu
[06:32] <slap_me> = \
[06:32] <kitche> ydnar, you can make a udev rule to have it be named wlan0
[06:32] <GentooPWN> Can anyone help me access my Ubuntu Partition from windows?
[06:32] <ydnar> ok, i will search the forums for that now.
[06:32] <shatrat> GentooPWN: fs-driver.org will help you
[06:33] <slap_me> my ubuntu was up...
[06:33] <kitche> slap_me, what did you do to your ubuntu?
[06:33] <slap_me> i tried opening gaim
[06:33] <slap_me> nothing happened...
[06:33] <slap_me> tried thunderbird..nothing happened
[06:33] <slap_me> i did ctrl+alt+bckspce
[06:33] <GentooPWN> shatrat what do you mean?
[06:33] <slap_me> to try to reboot it
[06:33] <slap_me> it did not work...
[06:34] <slap_me> gave me a diagnostic error
[06:34] <Manstein> I have been running an Ubuntu Server for quite some time now. I just fihished installing a new application (Ventrilo), how can i make my server run the ventrilo daemon everytime it boots?
[06:34] <shatrat> GentooPWN: fs-driver.org has an ext3 driver for windows xp
[06:34] <slap_me> and it said like 'no screen found'
[06:34] <slap_me> = \
[06:34] <slap_me> i dont think i did anything to mess it up
[06:34] <slap_me> i was away fromt he computer
[06:34] <slap_me> it was working fine..
[06:34] <slap_me> went away
[06:34] <slap_me> came back
[06:34] <slap_me> didnt work
[06:34] <slap_me> ...
[06:34] <kitche> slap_me: can you open up a terminal
[06:34] <kitche> !enter|slap_me
[06:34] <ubotu> slap_me: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:34] <slap_me> sorry
[06:35] <slap_me> it wouldnt let me open up anything...it would try to load...but then it would just close out....so i tried to reboot X...didnt work
[06:35] <kitche> slap_me, what does tty1 say?
[06:35] <GentooPWN> shatrat do I have to fsck my linux everytime I use it?
[06:35] <slap_me> says like 'mikejanssen login:'
[06:35] <shatrat> GentooPWN: only if that gets you off.
[06:36] <kitche> slap_me, ok can you log in?
[06:36] <shatrat> GentooPWN: I use it all the time
[06:36] <slap_me> in the tty1 yes...
[06:36] <gansinho> hello, does anybody used an ap called aptoncd?
[06:36] <slap_me> it lets me login
[06:36] <slap_me> then it gives me the terminal thing...but i dont know waht to do from there...im a 3 day old ubuntu user...heh
[06:36] <tarelerulz> I want to make a partition for linux ,but I don't want to use a cd . Is there program for windows that can make a ext3 partition out of the free space in ntfs partiton.
[06:36] <GentooPWN> shatrat it says its for Ext2 only, my part is ext3
[06:36] <kitche> slap_me, ok do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:36] <dwid> i finally got ubuntu to install on another hd , a 6 gig one, it says i cant access the other 160 gig drive, says unable to mount, how do i fix this
[06:36] <dwid> ?
[06:37] <kitche> GentooPWN, ext3 is ext2 just with journaling
[06:37] <shatrat> GentooPWN: Ext3 is the same as ext2, but with Journaling
[06:37] <Marupa> Anyone here have any experience with off-brand wireless devices?
[06:37] <Manstein> tarelerulz, try Partition Magic
[06:37] <slap_me> what will that do?
[06:37] <gansinho> is there anyway to install a package without its dependencies?
[06:37] <shatrat> GentooPWN: so it reads and writes just fine for most use
[06:37] <kitche> slap_me, should restart X
[06:37] <gansinho> like to force install a package
[06:37] <tarelerulz> Thanks  Manstein
[06:37] <slap_me> it was saying like 'no screen found' what does that mean
[06:37] <kitche> slap_me, means your X is messed up
[06:38] <m12> I accidentally deleted by GnomeBaker icon from the application menu and can't get it back.  I even tried  complete removal from synaptic and reinstalled.  How do I get it back (without manually creating one).
[06:38] <gnoodles> Well -that- didn't work...
[06:38] <dstaudt> hi all, i'm noticing that sustained network throughput over wireless is ~500Kb/s vs ~700Kb/s in WinXP (same hardware)...any ideas on how to improve on this?
[06:38] <dstaudt> feisty
[06:38] <kitche> !ipv6
[06:38] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:39] <kitche> !feisty|dstaudt
[06:39] <ubotu> dstaudt: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <alyssa_> !synaptics
[06:39] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:39] <gnoodles> Somehow, in creating a script that ran the commands that Kitche linked to, my ubuntu install got hosed
[06:39] <alyssa_> !alps
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <krinns> hi all
[06:39] <krinns> i have ubuntu installed all good
[06:39] <krinns> but i have a hp 1022n laser jet
[06:39] <dwid> i finally got ubuntu to install on another hd , a 6 gig one, it says i cant access the other 160 gig drive, says unable to mount, how do i fix this
[06:39] <krinns> its odd
[06:39] <tom47> gnoodles sounds like your mileage varied
[06:39] <protocol2> is it better to use the generic kernel or another one?
[06:39] <krinns> some times it gets hang
[06:39] <gnoodles> When I try to reboot into Ubuntu, I get an error "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios"
[06:39] <krinns> any idea
[06:40] <Marupa> I've got a TEW-424UB v2  TrendNet 802.11g USB wifi adapter...was wondering if A) it'll work, and B) how to get it to work.
[06:40] <gnoodles> DI can get into rescue mode, but I have no idea what to fix.
[06:40] <gnoodles> Any thoughts?
[06:40] <shatrat> gnoodles: I think you need to go into the BIOS and enable something...the name of which I have completely forgotten
[06:41] <kitche> gnoodles, seems like some how your root of your ubuntu is further then what your bios can do for booting
[06:41] <alyssa_> !tips and tricks
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tips and tricks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <mitrovarr> if you change the drives around on a ubuntu machine, is there any way to make the system scan the new drive map and set up a new fstab and such?
[06:41] <host`> gtk1 or gtk2? which is betteR?
[06:41] <GentooPWN> shatrat hey it works! Thanks, now is there a way to mount it and run a shell to it like a chroot from windows?
[06:41] <kitche> host`, they are the same thing just that alot of apps use gtk+2 now
[06:42] <orByte> hello, is there any free antivirus/internet security for ubuntu?
[06:42] <host`> apparently gtk2's performance lacks
[06:42] <Manstein> orByte , try clamAv
[06:42] <protocol2> is it better to use the generic kernel or another one?
[06:42] <kitche> !firewall|orByte
[06:42] <ubotu> orByte: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:42] <GentooPWN> shatrat ...?
[06:42] <shatrat> GentooPWN: Mount it in windows?  It should show up in your My Computer.  I dont know anything about windows shell though, except that it annoys me more than Rosie Odonnel
[06:42] <kitche> !antivirus|orByte
[06:42] <ubotu> orByte: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:43] <Manstein> orbyte, try firestarter firewall as well. Works fine fore me
[06:43] <dwid> i finally got ubuntu to install on another hd , a 6 gig one, it says i cant access the other 160 gig drive, says unable to mount, how do i fix this
[06:43] <GentooPWN> shatrat yea it did I can access all the file, but what I want is to be able to actually use the linux partition like get a terminal and control it from windows?
[06:43] <gnoodles> Ubuntu crashed before I restarted. I had tried to edit the system menu, but it didn't change. I tried to logout, but used 'switch user' instead, & apparently it doesn't like you to be logged in twice. It crashed completely. I tried to reboot, but got that error.
[06:43] <orByte> ok thx. will do a bit of googling
[06:43] <tom47> noodles dunno ... this may help ... http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[06:43] <Manstein> I have been running an Ubuntu Server for quite some time now. I just fihished installing a new application (Ventrilo), how can i make my server run the ventrilo daemon everytime it boots? Do i need to enter the startup parameter /blabla/blala/.ventrilo_srv to some kind of script?
[06:44] <tom47> gnoodles see above
[06:44] <kitche> GentooPWN, you can't do that you might be able to do it actually with vmware not sure though
[06:44] <gnoodles> Thanks,
[06:44] <shatrat> GentooPWN: Im still not sure what you mean. Like run a linux shell whlie in windows?  I bet somebody has ported Bash to windows if thats what youre wanting
[06:44] <gnoodles> I'll look.
[06:45] <GentooPWN> kitche I did it a while ago with debian and win2k using cygwin and chroot, just can't remember how
[06:45] <orByte> !linuxvirus
[06:45] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:45] <GentooPWN> shatrat yea like a chroot using cygwin to access my linux part
[06:45] <GentooPWN> just firing up the kernel is the hard part
[06:46] <slap_me> hmm
[06:46] <slap_me> kitche...
[06:46] <slap_me> didnt work
[06:46] <slap_me> still giving me that error
[06:46] <shatrat> GentooPWN: I see, I hadn't though of something like that.  I suppose you could mount the partition in a virtual machine and chroot to it...but it seems like a whole lot of work to avoid a reboot
[06:46] <slap_me> saying my "nvidia" module is not installed...or something or my nvidia driver
[06:46] <slap_me> = (
[06:46] <slap_me> no ubuntu
[06:47] <kitche> slap_me, have to reconfigure x sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg a a kernel upgrade probably or something messed up I would just change the nvidia driver to nv for now just to see if it loads
[06:47] <slap_me> heh, no idea how to do ANY of that
[06:47] <kitche> slap_me, anyways I m going to bed for now falling asleep
[06:48] <slap_me> k
[06:48] <bamtol> hello
[06:48] <gnoodles> Tom47: That's the right erro, but it doesn't really make sense to me. It was booting fine before, nothing was moved. THis pc is less then a year old, Athlon 64, so it's BIOS shouldn't have problems with large disks.
[06:48] <tarelerulz> I get partion magic to make a ext3 partion out of the free space of an ntfs  then How do I boot linux. Would I  not need to intall grub to boot record so I could boot either linux or windows.
[06:48] <iskin> slap_me, have you tried the envy script to fix your nvidia problem?
[06:49] <ekingery> Hi.  Is anyone available to help out with an 'INIT: cannot execute "/etc/init.d/rcS" problem?
[06:49] <gnoodles> My thought is that that command the Litche linked to created some file that's causing Grub to choke.
[06:49] <slap_me> iskin..ubuntu wont load at all
[06:49] <gnoodles> Oops, Kitche
[06:49] <shatrat> ekingery: rcS is single user mode I think, are you trying to enter recovery mode or something?
[06:50] <iskin> slap_me, that sucks. Don't know how to help with that.
[06:50] <ekingery> That's what I get in recovery and 'normal' mode.  It locks up on boot shortly after.
[06:50] <slap_me> heh
[06:50] <khermans_> on amd64, should i keep the -generic kernel or install something else?  what is the difference?
[06:50] <slap_me> how easy is ubuntu to RE-install?
[06:50] <slap_me> = X
[06:50] <slap_me> i htink i may have to do that
[06:50] <gnoodles> So if I run 'echo "savedefault --default=2 --once" | grub --batch' any idea what's getting written to the hard drive?
[06:50] <iskin> very easy.
[06:51] <ekingery> I have been looking into that as well.  I have heard about a 'repair' mode on ubuntu, but cannot find it.
[06:51] <dwid> i finally got ubuntu to install on another hd , a 6 gig one, it says i cant access the other 160 gig drive, says unable to mount, how do i fix this
[06:51] <frogzoo> ekingery: did you modify that file?
[06:52] <ekingery> Nope.  I think things started going south after an upgrade, but I can't be sure.
[06:52] <tom47> gnoodles its doesn't make a lot of sense to me either unless somehow you have borked the mbr and need to reinstate it .... i woulo begin by checking the disk with fsck
[06:52] <frogzoo> ekingery: 'recovery' should be the 2nd line on the grub prompt
[06:52] <noobie0057> I created a bash file, when I try to execute it I get an error message "bash: myFile: command not found"   to execute it I typed myFile
[06:52] <Flannel> noobie0057: ./myFile (the current directory isn't in the path)
[06:52] <ekingery> frogzoo: I get the same think with recovery mode as 'normal' mode
[06:53] <frogzoo> ekingery: but it's more likely failing because it can't exec /bin/sh
[06:53] <gnoodles> Would I see the grub menu if the MBR were corrupted?
[06:53] <shatrat> depends on how corrupted
[06:53] <noobie0057> Flannel,, ah,, I was executing like myFile not ./myFile
[06:53] <noobie0057> thanks
[06:54] <frogzoo> gnoodles: you can get the grub prompt, while grub can't boot cos it's looking for root in the wrong place - misconfigured MBR is quite common, corrupted MBR seldom
[06:54] <frogzoo> ekingery: your only lines of attack are 1- live cd, or 2 - reinstall
[06:54] <tom47> gnoodles no i dont think you would
[06:54] <shatrat> MBR is pretty small, not much chance of something to corrupt
[06:55] <luis> hey folks, could someone check my server at http://project1.zapto.org
[06:55] <Manstein> I need to run a command after each reboot, on a Ubuntu server installation. How should i proceed?
[06:55] <garryb>  do you have an /etc/rc.local file?
[06:55] <garryb> if so that would be it
[06:55] <Manstein> garryb ok will check
[06:56] <gnoodles> Would the command 'echo "savedefault --default=2 --once" | grub --batch' have somehow misconfigure the MBR?
[06:56] <ekingery> frogzoo: okay.  Let me check the /bin/sh file via live CD.  I've checked the bash binary already..  That was okay.
[06:56] <frogzoo> Manstein: for the lazy, just poke it in: /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local
[06:56] <Manstein> frogzoo, garryb will check now :D
[06:56] <garryb> frogzoo: for my purposes, what's wrong with /etc/rc.local?
[06:57] <garryb> oh, the S99rc.local actually calls /etc/rc.local
[06:57] <tom47> gnoodles
[06:57] <gnoodles> my menu.lst file looks fine. Doesn't grub just get the info from that? It's been a few years since I did anything with GRUB...
[06:57] <yopad> question again: why does the live cd make my built in wireless work...but when i use the minimal cd and install over the net....it wont detect it
[06:58] <frogzoo> garryb: /etc/rc.local executes on all runlevels, not really what you want
[06:58] <shatrat> yopad: probably drivers included in livecd that didnt fit on the minimal and it isnt smart enough to download.  If you have live CD why do you need minimal one?
[06:58] <bamtol> !help
[06:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:58] <frogzoo> !anything
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <garryb> Manstein: See what frogzoo said, use his solution not mine :-)
[07:00] <yopad> shatrat: i had problems loading the the live cd...i was getting I/o buffer errors
[07:01] <shatrat> yopad: my friend just installed and he had those errors too.  io buffer error on hda?  THe problem was a bad CD in his case
[07:01] <shatrat> try burning one at slower speed
[07:01] <yopad> shatrat:  i tried the alternate cd too...no luck..it kept on messing up
[07:01] <shatrat> you have obviously violated an indian burial ground and are cursed
[07:01] <ekingery> frogzoo: thanks!  /bin/sh was not found.  I copied it from live CD and made some progress.  Looks like I have a few more issues with missing files, etc..  I guess I'll just do binary diffs or md5sums from the live cd vs. my hard disk..
[07:01] <Manstein> Just rebooting my server , have edited /etc/rc.local first
[07:02] <frogzoo> ekingery: well if you can get apt back up & running, you're back in business, gl
[07:02] <Manstein> just added a line in rc.local that "said": './blablabla/blablabla/ventrilo_srv'
[07:03] <garryb> Manstein: see what frogzoo said about my comment: "garryb: /etc/rc.local executes on all runlevels, not really what you want"
[07:03] <frogzoo> Manstein: that will run at shutdown, not what you want
[07:03] <tom47> gnoodles what is the third option in your menu.lst?
[07:03] <ekingery> frogzoo: what do I re-run with apt?  Should I just ask at that point :-)
[07:03] <yopad> shatrat:  i burned so many cds...i used the one that worked before...no luck...but the minimal cd worked..and my external card is working...even though i have perfectly working built in one thats im too lazy to configure..
[07:03] <Manstein> ok will keep u posted :D
[07:04] <frogzoo> ekingery: can't really tell from here how broken your machine is, hopefully the apt db is still in tact, & you can just reinstall at that point whatever you need
[07:05] <ekingery> frogzoo: got it - thanks again!
[07:05] <painkiler> hey guys
[07:05] <gnoodles> I think it's the memtest option. I't on this PC so I can't see the file from Windows.
[07:05] <painkiler> is there an ubuntu distro with beryl built in?
[07:05] <someothernick> no
[07:05] <shatrat> yopad: Another solution we tried was irqpoll and ide=nodma and/or pci=noacpi as kernel args at boot
[07:06] <tom47> gnoodles is that what you wanted to do in the next boot ie memtest?
[07:06] <shatrat> yopad: according to the forums that solved a lot of other peoples bufffer io error problems
[07:06] <gnoodles> Oh, you're asking in relation to that command-- That command didn't seem to work at all, the first option was still selected
[07:06] <tom47> ok
[07:06] <gnoodles> I had edited it to point to option 4 anyway, that's just the command that I copied from the web page.
[07:07] <Manstein> frogzoo, garryb: Nothing happened, but i think i need to change the file's mod with chmod, to make it executable. That would be SOMETHING like sudo chmod 7777 /etc/rc.local , right?
[07:07] <tom47> right
[07:07] <Erb> how do i post a new message in ubuntuforums.org (i'm registered but can't find new post button)?
[07:07] <Erb> never mind, found it
[07:07] <ruphy> hello guys, I updated my dapper to edgy some time ago, and I need to install libxss-dev, but when I try it tells me (translating italian-->english):
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> also note the existence of #ubuntuforums
[07:07] <tom47> gnoodles did you allow for grub using a funny numbering system ie 4=3
[07:08] <frogzoo> Manstein: don't do that, no
[07:08] <ruphy> libxss-dev: Depends on: libxss1 (= 1:1.0.1-4ubuntu1) but 1:1.1-0ubuntu1 is going to bi installed
[07:08] <gnoodles> Yup. I wanted to boot the 5th listed option, so I used 4.
[07:08] <ruphy> so an ubuntu bug I think
[07:08] <tom47> ok
[07:08] <ruphy> could you guys help me?
[07:08] <frogzoo> Manstein: what are you doing in /etc/rc.local anyway? put it in /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local
[07:08] <tom47> just running through possibilities
[07:08] <Manstein> frogzoo will do
[07:08] <frogzoo> ruphy: we don't know yet
[07:09] <gnoodles> Anyway, the problem here is related to trying to boot into Ubuntu, the first option (ie. 0). Windows boots fine.
[07:09] <frogzoo> ruphy: oh, seems we do
[07:09] <tom47> ah
[07:09] <yopad> sharat: you just add that line at the end right? dont delete anything...push f6...add everything
[07:09] <ruphy> frogzoo: what's the problem?
[07:10] <shatrat> yopad: You got it.  Try irqpoll first and hope it works, ide=nodma will slow you down a lot
[07:10] <yopad> cool..ill give it a shot..thanks man
[07:10] <frogzoo> ruphy: well it looks like the problem is someones goofed on the packaging
[07:10] <shatrat> yopad: let me kjnow if it works
[07:10] <yopad> the live cd is way faster than the minimal cd...
[07:10] <ruphy> frogzoo: I need to install the lastest developement files for libxss to compile kde4 (I'm a kde4 dev)
[07:11] <frogzoo> ruphy: if you're running feisty, I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:11] <ruphy> frogzoo: yeah, that's what I thought too, but I don't have much experience with debian-like distros... it seems that the edgy version is missing, anyway, what I can do to fix that?
[07:11] <ruphy> frogzoo: no, edgy
[07:12] <mcquaid> anyone good with grub?  i'm been trying for awhile to get windows to boot via grub with no success.
[07:12] <mcquaid> here's what i have in menu.1st
[07:12] <mcquaid> http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php
[07:12] <mcquaid> just the relevant portion
[07:12] <ruphy> frogzoo: that's strange infact... edgy should be stable
[07:12] <frogzoo> ruphy: well I don't know why that package is broken, you could force the install, but it may be true what it says, it may need the older package
[07:13] <ruphy> frogzoo: and... how I do that?
[07:13] <gnoodles> mcquaid: Nothing there.
[07:13] <Akuma_> how can i access a samba network share on the command line? nautilus shows it as smb:// , but where is it on the fs ?
[07:13] <mcquaid> http://www.pastebin.ca/326595
[07:13] <ekingery> I'm obviously an IRC noob.  When addressing someone specifically, do you just type 'username: ' or is that done through your chat interface?
[07:13] <Manstein> frogzoo: When i open the file , it seems to be in some kind of linux scripting language. I will copy paste a section that might be of relevance :
[07:13] <Manstein> do_start() {
[07:13] <Manstein>         if [ -x /etc/rc.local ] ; then
[07:13] <Manstein>                 log_begin_msg "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"
[07:13] <Manstein>                 /etc/rc.local
[07:13] <Manstein>                 log_end_msg $?
[07:13] <Manstein>         fi
[07:14] <mcquaid> gnoodles, sorry pasted the wrong thing the first time
[07:14] <someothernick> !pastebin
[07:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:14] <Flannel> ekingery: you could type it (thats all the chat clients do) except, a lot of clients have tab complete, I type "eki[tab] " and it completes and appends the colon, or comma, or whatever
[07:14] <ekingery> Flannel, got it - thanks.  XChat puts in a comma..
[07:15] <Manstein> soz for the bad paste ppl :|
[07:15] <mcquaid> gnoodles, does anything stand out to you?
[07:15] <shatrat> mcquaid: Is grub on the same drive as windows?
[07:15] <dwid> how do i access my second hard drive
[07:15] <ruphy> frogzoo: could you  tell me how do I install a specific version of a pagkage?
[07:15] <dwid> it says unable to mount
[07:15] <mcquaid> yes i just have one drive
[07:15] <gnoodles> Mcquaid: Yup. Unfortunately, I'm not experienced enough to spot your problem. Having grub issues myself, so I thought I'd glance at it...
[07:15] <mcquaid> windows is in a logical part though hda5
[07:15] <mcquaid> ok thx anyway
[07:15] <frogzoo> ruphy: I really suggest you research the problem on google or launchpad - just using apt-get --fix-broken willy nilly will break your system
[07:16] <HymnToLife> dwid, we need more details here... What filesystems are there on the drive and how do you try to mount it ?
[07:16] <dwid> im just trying to access the second hard drive
[07:16] <dwid> i dont know wh at file systems are on the hard drive
[07:16] <frogzoo> dwid: ide or sata?
[07:16] <someothernick> ntfs ext3?
[07:17] <dwid> ide
[07:17] <frogzoo> dwid: for x in a b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd$x ; done
[07:17] <Manstein> dwid: is it on the same connector in ur computer?
[07:18] <dwid> yeah its on the same connector
[07:18] <dwid> its the slave drive
[07:18] <Manstein> dwid: then it should be fdisk /hdb
[07:18] <dwid> what does that do
[07:18] <ruphy> frogzoo: anyway, thanks dude
[07:18] <Manstein> dwid: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[07:18] <someothernick> is there anything on the drive?
[07:18] <Manstein> dwid it will let u partition ur disk
[07:19] <dwid> fdisk/hdb says unable to open
[07:19] <gnoodles> Well, I'm doubtful that my problem is a corrupt HD, but that seems to be the likeliest place to start troubleshooting. Can anyone suggest the best fsck options to use?
[07:19] <frogzoo> Manstein: if you want to learn to do an rc script properly, try man boot-scripts
[07:19] <Manstein> frogzoo: ok tnx, will look into it, got about time :D
[07:19] <someothernick> space between the k and /
[07:19] <Rio> how do you uninstall something that has been installed through wine?
[07:20] <frogzoo> Rio: see if it has an uninstall.exe
[07:20] <dwid> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19457.
[07:20] <dwid> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[07:20] <dwid> and could in certain setups cause problems
[07:20] <frogzoo> dwid: did you set LBA in the bios?
[07:20] <shatrat> Rio: go to .wine/drive_c in your home folder
[07:20] <MotorCityMadMan> how can i ck if the kernel has enabled a packet socket ?
[07:20] <Manstein> dwid: are u sure there is nothing of relevance on the drive?
[07:21] <dwid> yes
[07:21] <dwid> theres nothing on the drive of revelence
[07:21] <shatrat> Rio: you can either CTRL + H in nautilus to see the hidden folder or just cd .wine in terminal
[07:21] <frogzoo> MotorCityMadMan: netstat -ant ?
[07:21] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: trying now
[07:21] <dwid> i dont know what lba is in the bios
[07:21] <shatrat> logical block address
[07:22] <frogzoo> dwid: it's a disk option - it's there
[07:22] <dwid> i dont remember seeing it my bios
[07:22] <frogzoo> dwid: look at the disk options in the standard settings
[07:22] <Marupa> hey, quick question.  I'm running xchat and ubuntu, when I click on links instead of opening in firefox like I'd expect, they open in Nautilus.  How do I fix it?
[07:23] <Rio> okay, i see uninst.dll and uninst.isu, but no exe
[07:23] <gnoodles> do I just want 'fsck /'?
[07:23] <frogzoo> Marupa: you probly need to change your default browser
[07:23] <Marupa> where do I do that?
[07:23] <dwid> what will the lba do for me
[07:23] <ekingery> frogzoo: Got it back up and running! Just copied over /bin and /etc/init.d from the live CD and that seemed to do the trick.
[07:23] <frogzoo> Marupa: system -> prefs -> preferred apps
[07:23] <Rio> frogzoo, shatrat i see no uninstall executable... now what?
[07:23] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: not seeing any.
[07:24] <frogzoo> MotorCityMadMan: gnome?
[07:24] <MotorCityMadMan> kde
[07:24] <Marupa> preferred apps is set to firefox.
[07:24] <shatrat> Rio: well, if you want to uninstall something in wine and it doesnt have an uninstall...just delete that suckers folder and dont lose sleep over it
[07:24] <frogzoo> MotorCityMadMan: nothing? then how are you on irc ?
[07:25] <tapas> is there a -rt kernel available for ubuntu?
[07:25] <dwid> so i have to do what to the lba in order to use the hard drive?
[07:25] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: tcp
[07:25] <shatrat> tapas:  I was under the impression that realtime kernels werent useful for a desktop/server
[07:25] <frogzoo> tapas: the service interrupt time on linux these days is so low, it's almost rt, but not quite
[07:26] <mikejanssen> OMG!!!
[07:26] <mikejanssen> I TOTALLY ROCK!!
[07:26] <mikejanssen> i fixed it
[07:26] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:26] <someothernick> :)
[07:26] <Rio> shatrat haha am i not supposed to clean up the mess that could be in other folders?
[07:26] <mikejanssen> -back on ubuntu
[07:26] <mikejanssen> man
[07:26] <mikejanssen> that was total luck i think
[07:26] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: theres a list showing. i'm just not seeing a packet socket
[07:26] <dwid> frogzoo: i have to do what to the lba in order to use the second hard drive?
[07:26] <tapas> i'm talking about kernels patched with ingo molnar's realtime preemption patches
[07:26] <frogzoo> ekingery: that's a good result, hope there's not too much else broken
[07:27] <tapas> if there's no ubuntu package i'll have to patch/build myself
[07:27] <frogzoo> dwid: just make sure the 2nd drive is set to LBA - that's step #1
[07:27] <mikejanssen> that was totally weird
[07:27] <mikejanssen> using the terminal in dos...
[07:27] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:27] <shatrat> Rio: I dont know if there is any kind of Add or Remove programs for wine, but the wine directories are pretty empty anyway, if anything is out of place delete it
[07:28] <dwid> frogzoo: and i get to that in bios?
[07:28] <dwid> what is step 2
[07:28] <Rio> okay, lets say i did find an uninstall file.  what do i do then, for future reference?
[07:28] <Marupa> so any ideas why nautilus is opening XChat's links rather than firefox, if the preferred app is firefox?
[07:29] <Rio> shatrat what if i did find an uninstall file? what then?
[07:29] <frogzoo> MotorCityMadMan: netstat -aen ?
[07:29] <dwid> what is step 2
[07:29] <Rio> what i just type "wine <uninstall file>"?
[07:29] <Rio> errrr
[07:29] <someothernick> dwid, does your drive show up when you look at fdisk -l ?
[07:29] <Rio> shatrat would i just type "wine <uninstall file>"
[07:29] <Rio> ?
[07:30] <frogzoo> dwid: step #2:  for x in a b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd$x ; done
[07:30] <dwid> what is for x in a b c d
[07:30] <shatrat> Rio: yeah that works if there is an uninstall file created, I used it today
[07:30] <someothernick> :/
[07:30] <frogzoo> dwid: type that in a terminal, it will find & print the partition table on your 2nd disk
[07:30] <Vuen> hi #ubuntu, how do i start a new x session on tty8 from within a terminal?
[07:31] <Vuen> is it like startx :1 or something like that?
[07:31] <Rio> shatrat oh okay.... cool thanks
[07:31] <dwid> and thats it
[07:32] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: lots of sockets listening in there
[07:32] <dwid> and you said lba is in bios
[07:32] <someothernick> dwid, does your drive show up when you look at fdisk -l ?
[07:33] <adamwest> guys i need help, they're not answering in xubuntu or xfce... :(
[07:33] <adamwest> my system hangs when i try to logout of xubuntu
[07:33] <frogzoo> MotorCityMadMan: according to the netstat manpage, it should show as SOCK_PACKET
[07:33] <dwid> how do i look at fdisk
[07:33] <yopad> adamwest: how about reinstall?
[07:33] <riotkittie> are you using a composite manager, adamwest ?
[07:34] <someothernick> type in term fdisk -l
[07:34] <dwid> nothing happens
[07:34] <cableroy> Hi, is there a program similar to this one for linux www.sshkeychain.org ?
[07:34] <adamwest> yopad - tried install, didn't work... and riotkittie -- don't know what's that :P
[07:34] <frogzoo> dwid: step #2:  for x in a b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd$x ; done
[07:34] <someothernick> opps
[07:34] <frogzoo> dwid: the whole command found nothing?
[07:34] <someothernick> sudo fdisk -l
[07:35] <nnn> Hi All...
[07:35] <dwid> okay i did step 2
[07:35] <dwid> whats step 3
[07:36] <frogzoo> dwid: so you now know where your partitions are on the 2nd disk?
[07:36] <yopad> adamwest: whats your system specs?
[07:36] <dwid> not really
[07:36] <yopad> how much ram etc
[07:36] <MotorCityMadMan> frogzoo: no sock_packet showing. i'm doing a serach to see if there info at the configure.help file
[07:36] <tapas> damn, ubuntu needs /proc/config support in their kernels
[07:36] <frogzoo> dwid: have you partitioned this disk ?
[07:36] <dwid> i dont understand what i see when i type that in
[07:36] <nnn> I want that Zend use my PHP how I can do it??? in install time, it not ask me anytning about it
[07:36] <someothernick> dwid,  does your drive show up?
[07:36] <adamwest> yopad: 512ram 1300mgz
[07:36] <adamwest> *mhz
[07:36] <yopad> plenty
[07:37] <mwe> tapas: /boot/ should contain the kernel config I believe
[07:37] <dwid> yeah
[07:37] <dwid> the drive shows up
[07:37] <someothernick> is it hdb?
[07:37] <tapas> yah
[07:37] <dwid> yes hdb
[07:37] <frogzoo> dwid: partitions are referenced by disk & partition - so /dev/hdb3 is the 3rd partition on the 2nd disk (b), for instance
[07:37] <mwe> tapas: but I agree /proc/config.gz support would be nice
[07:37] <shatrat> yopad: did those kernel arguments help?
[07:38] <tapas> mwe: :)
[07:38] <Manstein> frogzoo: After having read the manpage, i found another article online , the Debian Policy Manual. Since Ubuntu is debian based, will this article get me further?
[07:38] <dwid> so how do i access hdb
[07:39] <Akuma_> how can i access a samba network share on the command line? nautilus shows it as smb:// , but where is it mounted on the file system ?
[07:39] <mwe> !mount | dwid
[07:39] <ubotu> dwid: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:39] <tapas> dwid: by way of /dev/hdb
[07:39] <frogzoo> Manstein: you don't need to read everything, just a sense of how the rc scripts work, then take a look in /etc/rc2.d/ & see how the scripts are written
[07:39] <someothernick> dwid, type sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[07:39] <Manstein> frogzoo: Ok :D
[07:40] <noiesmo> Akuma_, check out smbmount
[07:40] <dwid> yeah typing sudo fdisk etc shows it up
[07:40] <dwid> but when i click on it it still wont open up
[07:40] <frogzoo> dwid: hdb is divided into partitions - you need to mount each partition individually - first you add a line(s) in /etc/fstab, then 'sudo mount -a' to read the fstab & mount your partitions
[07:40] <eternalswd> does anyone know of a cli alternative to mv that shows the percentage complete progress?
[07:41] <shatrat> maybe mv -v?
[07:41] <dwid> wait that is to much for me to understand
[07:41] <dwid> how do i add a line in /ect/fstab
[07:41] <frogzoo> !fstab | dwid
[07:41] <ubotu> dwid: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:41] <frogzoo> !partitions | dwid
[07:41] <ubotu> dwid: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:41] <Arigato> what program should I use to image my ubuntu partition?
[07:41] <dwid> !partitions
[07:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:41] <TheJosh> how do i convert .avi files to dvd's in Ubuntu?
[07:42] <frogzoo> dwid: have you partitioned the disk yet?
[07:42] <dwid> !diskmounter
[07:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:42] <tarelerulz> How much space does ubuntu need to run ?
[07:42] <dwid> i originally tried to install ubuntu on it , it installed, but it wasnt reconized when i would start up
[07:42] <frogzoo> dwid: do you have /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb3 etc. ?   - or is the disk currently blank?
[07:42] <protocol2> does anyone know what package or software would be good for USB phones?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> tarelerulz: 3gb would be a wise minimum, 5-10 is better
[07:43] <protocol2> in Ubuntu Edgy*
[07:43] <TheJosh> protocol2: i simply use drag and drop for my w810i
[07:43] <frogzoo> dwid: to create the partitions, run 'sudo gparted'
[07:43] <someothernick> his drive should be unpartitioned
[07:43] <frogzoo> dwid: just make sure you don't trash any partitions with data you're using
[07:43] <someothernick> gksudo
[07:43] <Manstein> frogzoo: I have looked @ several files in the /etc/rc2.d/ direcotry
[07:43] <protocol2> TheJosh, I am using a CIT200
[07:44] <noiesmo> TheJosh, mencoder can be used to convert avi to mpeg for use with dvd author app
[07:44] <someothernick> fdisk is a partition app
[07:44] <dwid> !fstab
[07:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:44] <Manstein> frogzoo: but scripting on this level, is a first, will continue to investigate :D
[07:44] <TheJosh> protocol2: what does ubuntu say when you plug it in?
[07:44] <TheJosh> noiesmo: Thanks, I'll have a look into it, cheers.
[07:45] <protocol2> TheJosh, let me try it
[07:45] <frogzoo> Manstein: I did say just putting the command in /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local would be easiest
[07:46] <Manstein> frogzoo: There is already text there. Should i put it beneath it, in empty space?
[07:46] <dwid> sudo gparted will create partitions on the second drive right
[07:46] <dwid> how do i make sure it only does it on the sceond drive
[07:46] <_`XeOn_> hello
[07:47] <_`XeOn_> can any1 tell me how to play wmv files?
[07:47] <bamtol> !tr i
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <Zaggynl> !wmv
[07:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <bamtol> hello
[07:47] <someothernick> dwid, select hdb from drop down menu on the right top corner
[07:47] <frogzoo> Manstein: yep, at the bottom
[07:48] <bamtol> !avi
[07:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:48] <dwid> what drop down menu on the right top corner
[07:48] <someothernick> dwid, in gparted?
[07:49] <frogzoo> Manstein: sorry, you should put the command after the do_start within case $1 start
[07:49] <someothernick> you should be able to select which drive you want to partition
[07:49] <Manstein> frogzoo: just finished backing up the file, ur just on time :D
[07:50] <dwid> sudo gparted is supposed to pull up something with a drop down menu?
[07:50] <someothernick> no
[07:50] <someothernick> sudo gparted should open gparted
[07:50] <dwid> then what is he talkin about
[07:51] <dwid> thers like 10 things to choose from
[07:51] <someothernick> which is hdb?
[07:51] <dwid> not sure
[07:51] <someothernick> it should say /dev/hdb
[07:52] <dwid> Drive type
[07:52] <dwid>    ?   auto configure
[07:52] <dwid>    0   custom (with hardware detected defaults)
[07:52] <dwid>    a   Quantum ProDrive 80S
[07:52] <dwid>    b   Quantum ProDrive 105S
[07:52] <dwid>    c   CDC Wren IV 94171-344
[07:52] <frogzoo> dwid: those 10 things are I think your existing partitions - the top right should be a drop down list of your disks - select hdb
[07:52] <dwid> i dont understand what you mean by top right
[07:53] <frogzoo> dwid: to the right of 'apply'
[07:53] <someothernick> did a gui app pop up when you typed sudo gparted?
[07:53] <dwid> no a gui app didnt pop  up
[07:54] <frogzoo> dwid: dpkg -l gparted
[07:54] <HymnToLife> dwid, you should use gksudo gparted
[07:54] <HymnToLife> not sudo
[07:54] <frogzoo> HymnToLife: sudo works for me?!
[07:54] <someothernick> gk is better for opening gui apps
[07:55] <someothernick> safer
[07:55] <HymnToLife> !worksforme | frogzoo
[07:55] <ubotu> frogzoo: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:55] <frogzoo> :p
[07:55] <_`XeOn_> it says to download w32 codecs using console command im downloading now... how do i install it trough there?
[07:56] <someothernick> dwid, close that terminal, open a new terminal and type gksudo gparted
[07:56] <HymnToLife> _`XeOn_, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:56] <_`XeOn_> ok thanks
[07:56] <dwid> command not found
[07:56] <edog^> how do I turn off dead keys on my keyboard?  I dont want to hit the ~ key twice to make it display
[07:56] <HymnToLife> dwid, do you have gparted installed ?
[07:57] <edog^> I dont see an english layout without dead keys
[07:57] <dwid> wait do i have to do sudo fdisk before i run gparted
[07:58] <HymnToLife> not that I know of
[07:58] <rmorris84> is there a way for me to decompress a .sitx file in ubuntu?
[07:58] <dwid> gparted just worked so i guess its installed
[08:00] <dwid> it works after i do sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[08:00] <dwid> and i get a bunch of options
[08:00] <dwid> abcdmlnop;
[08:00] <rmorris84> .sitx anyone? lol
[08:01] <daeryc> hi. quick question then ill leave. i recently used break=bottom on the ubuntu installer cd to get into X by removing the conf. works. but now everytime i boot i get the INITRAMFS prompt. how can i remove it?
[08:01] <adamonline45> edog^: Dunno what you're talking about, but there's a tut I saw recently about remapping keys to do different things... Maybe you can make them useful instead of unmapping them?
[08:01] <someothernick> dwid, type n
[08:01] <someothernick> then enter
[08:02] <dwid> l or p now
[08:02] <edog^> ahha!  You need to select the folder us-english, not the option underneath us-english
[08:02] <edog^> beaut
[08:02] <dwid> logical partition
[08:03] <dwid> or primary partition
[08:03] <xreel> rmorris84: http://www.stuffit.com/unix/index.html
[08:03] <daeryc> anyone?
[08:03] <cntb> \o why would KDE disable keyboard layout settings any manual fix for it ?
[08:04] <dwid> someothernick: what do i do now
[08:04] <daeryc> hello?
[08:05] <someothernick> dwid, oh you need to format it as ext3
[08:05] <dwid> how do i do that
[08:05] <daeryc> *sigh* -.-
[08:06] <someothernick> dwid, exit term open a new one and type sudo aptitude install gparted gksu
[08:06] <daeryc> hi. quick question then ill leave. i recently used break=bottom on the ubuntu installer cd to get into X by removing the conf. works. but now everytime i boot i get the INITRAMFS prompt. how can i remove it?....
[08:07] <dwid> what do i do konw
[08:07] <dwid> now*
[08:07] <Manstein> frogzoo: So far, no luck. In the /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local file, I have added the following line between do_start, and the two ;;'s : /home/x/ventrilo/ventrilo_srv -d, this does NOT result in a successfull program load :(
[08:07] <someothernick> dwid, after it installs type gksudo gparted
[08:08] <dwid> okay now something pops up, what do i do now
[08:08] <someothernick> dwid, in top right corner select hdb
[08:08] <dwid> okay
[08:08] <dwid> now what
[08:08] <daeryc> a simple answer would be appreciated
[08:09] <someothernick> dwid, right click on your partition
[08:09] <dwid> and
[08:09] <someothernick> select format to ext3
[08:10] <someothernick> then click on the green check mark
[08:10] <dwid> hdb1 hdb2 or hdb5
[08:10] <someothernick> oh
[08:10] <dwid> well hdb 1 is ext 3
[08:10] <dwid> the biggest one
[08:10] <Zaggynl> At which /dev/ is the alsa device located?
[08:10] <someothernick> do you want to keep those partition or make the drive one partition?
[08:11] <dwid> make it one partition
[08:11] <daeryc> hi. quick question then ill leave. i recently used break=bottom on the ubuntu installer cd to get into X by removing the conf. works. but now everytime i boot i get the INITRAMFS prompt. how can i remove it?....
[08:11] <someothernick> dwid, right click and delete them
[08:11] <dwid> then what
[08:11] <someothernick> then choose ext3
[08:12] <someothernick> and click the check mark
[08:12] <dwid> how long does it take
[08:12] <someothernick> not too long
[08:13] <daeryc> ...
[08:13] <khatahn> what's the default audio player included in ubuntu?
[08:13] <Manstein> frogzoo: So far, no luck. In the /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local file, I have added the following line between do_start, and the two ;;'s : /home/x/ventrilo/ventrilo_srv -d, this does NOT result in a successfull program load :(
[08:13] <HymnToLife> khatahn, Totem, IIRC
[08:13] <lojikal> hello everyone, i've got an interesting question for you :)
[08:13] <HymnToLife> !asj | lojikal
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <HymnToLife> !ask | lojikal
[08:13] <ubotu> lojikal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:13] <khatahn> HymnToLife: totem is for video
[08:13] <HymnToLife> khatahn, it can play audio too
[08:13] <lojikal> lol, kk
[08:14] <khatahn> HymnToLife: sure, but i'm sure there's something just for audio too
[08:14] <daeryc> i asked my question several times. never once even got a response let alone an answer
[08:14] <HymnToLife> khatahn, not by default, I think
[08:14] <khatahn> HymnToLife: oh
[08:14] <elijah> what made kubuntu differ from ubuntu?
[08:14] <lojikal> I'm running a MythBox at school but its behind the school's firewall which only allows connections into the network on one port. How can i set up a proxy to forward all the local ports out of that one port... if that makes sense
[08:14] <HymnToLife> elijah, it uses KDE insteas of GNOME
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> elijah: KDE vs. Gnome
[08:14] <riotkittie> elijah: KDE over GNOME
[08:14] <Manstein> khatahn: i have been using XMMS music player for quite seom time now, it runs nicely
[08:14] <daeryc> kubuntu is kde. ubuntu is gnome
[08:15] <HymnToLife> instead*
[08:15] <elijah> how about xubuntu?
[08:15] <HymnToLife> XFCE
[08:15] <ShatratSchlaeftE> xfce
[08:15] <daeryc> xfce
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> elijah: SFCE
[08:15] <ShatratSchlaeftE> I win
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> *XFCE
[08:15] <riotkittie> XFCE over the others
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> ShatratSchlaeftE: I had the nick!
[08:15] <daeryc> hi. quick question then ill leave. i recently used break=bottom on the ubuntu installer cd to get into X by removing the conf. works. but now everytime i boot i get the INITRAMFS prompt. how can i remove it?....
[08:15] <elijah> is it the best among the others?
[08:15] <riotkittie> actualllyyyyyyyyy,  iwn cos i typed it right on the first try :x
[08:16] <khatahn> Manstein: yeah, xmms is the best. but i was just wondering what the default in ubuntu is. kubuntu has Amarok, so i thought there must be something similiar in ubuntu too
[08:16] <riotkittie> elijah: best is a relative term.
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> elijah: personal choice
[08:16] <daeryc> elijah, if in doubt stick with ubuntu. it seems to be the most stable. i perfer xfce but last time i tried xubuntu it was highly unstable.
[08:16] <elijah> ok, you know, im really a linux noobie
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> daeryc: when was that?
[08:16] <lojikal> elijah: if you're used to windows, kde is usually very natural to transition too, at least at first
[08:16] <riotkittie> xfce is lightweight, kde is full of eyecandy and some say easier for those migrating from windows
[08:16] <khatahn> ubuntu doesn't ship with rhythmbox anymore? i think it did at some point (?)
[08:17] <lojikal> dont' think so
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> khatahn: it does
[08:17] <riotkittie> gnome is. well. gnome. <3
[08:17] <khatahn> tonyyarusso: ah. that's it then. thanks :)
[08:17] <HymnToLife> and KDE is, well, KDE <3
[08:17] <lojikal> so, any ideas on that proxy?
[08:17] <riotkittie> kde is, well, not GNOME </3
[08:17] <elijah> lojikal so i should try ubuntu first?
[08:17] <daeryc> for the love of god....can anyone help me remove the initramfs prompt.....
[08:17] <HymnToLife> and GNOME is, well, not XFCE :D
[08:17] <riotkittie> elijah: get ubuntu and you can install the xfce and kde packages on top of them to try them out
[08:18] <elijah> oh, ok
[08:18] <lojikal> elijah: i would use kubuntu -- i prefer kde apps anyway, but just grab all three isos, run the livecds and see which you like better
[08:18] <riotkittie> fluxbox ftw
[08:18] <elijah> thanks for the education
[08:18] <lojikal> yeah, or just install the other two
[08:18] <elijah> i really dot know that
[08:18] <elijah> :)
[08:19] <lojikal> elijah: prolly just easiest for you to grab and burn all three isos if you're on a quick connection
[08:19] <lojikal> daeryc: please be patient...
[08:19] <daeryc> i just need the answer then im gone. its the only thing wrong
[08:20] <riotkittie> what FS does the live disc use?
[08:20] <lojikal> a ram fs
[08:20] <lojikal> i think initramfs?
[08:20] <daeryc> the dang thing im still stuck with ....
[08:20] <riotkittie> ah
[08:21] <elijah> ok, thank you so much lojikal, thank you guys...i love ya'all
[08:21] <lojikal> elijah: come back soon :)
[08:21] <elijah> sure
[08:21] <lojikal> so does anyone know anything about proxies and/or tunneling?
[08:22] <Manstein> Ok ppl. I need a program to autoload, with every fresh boot. I'm stuck in the /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local file. How should i tell "it" to execute this command: ./home/x/ventrilo/ventrilo_srv ?
[08:23] <daeryc> yep lojikal but im not answering no ones questions about anything. ive been here for half an hour already. its 2am and i just want this dang initramfs to go away
[08:24] <lojikal> lol, sorry, i dont' know how to fix your fx, daeryc
[08:24] <lojikal> fs*
[08:24] <lojikal> daeryc what did you say the error was?
[08:24] <FreGHH> holaa
[08:25] <lojikal> what what! word up home slice
[08:25] <daeryc> it isnt an error. i use the break=bottom parameter that i put in the live cd to get into x to install ubuntu
[08:25] <daeryc> now every time i boot i get the initramfs prompt\
[08:25] <lojikal> why not just let the livecd load automatically?
[08:26] <daeryc> because x didnt work
[08:26] <enix> power problem:  i am running dapper on a laptop, when the AC power is un plugged i get a message saying the laptop has a small amount time left before shutdown ( sometimes 3 min, sometimes 15min) but will also say it is at 100%, if i leave it unplugged it will shutdown, any ideas....this still happens even after i get a message about battery being fully charged
[08:26] <lojikal> daeryc: could it be a grub problem?
[08:26] <haggz> sounds like you need to disable acpi?
[08:26] <tapas> what;s the best place in ubuntu to add i.e. hdparm comands?
[08:26] <protocol2> will there be a way to upgrade ubuntu 6.10 to fiesty fawn without loosing my video driver setup and programs?
[08:27] <daeryc> i dont think so. happens after grub but before gdm loads
[08:27] <gnoodles> Well, no apparent luck with fsck. running 'fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1' returned clean. running 'fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sda1' seemed to crash. It started fine, then seemed to just stop after a few minutes. I waited 20 minutes & saw no activity at all on the HD light or anywhere else.
[08:27] <gnoodles> Should it normally take that long?
[08:27] <tapas> should i write an upstart job?
[08:27] <dwid> i still cant acess the sceond drive
[08:28] <_`XeOn_> !wmv
[08:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:28] <daeryc> gnoodles i had that same problem. gparted most likely crashed on you. reboot and try again. hope nothing important was lost but its trashed now
[08:28] <oxigen> since i installed nvidia drivers smp doesn't work any more, what should i do?
[08:28] <lojikal> daeryc: have you tried looking in the gdm config files? perhaps something in there is still referenceing the ramfs? (cause the livecd grabs the configuration from what's currently running at install time)
[08:28] <someothernick> dwid, sudo mkdir /something you want to name it
[08:28] <protocol2> will there be a way to upgrade ubuntu 6.10 to fiesty fawn without loosing my video driver setup and programs?
[08:28] <gnoodles> Since the drive was not mounted, could fsck have corrupted it?
[08:29] <rob_p> tapas: /etc/hdparm.conf would probably be it...
[08:29] <daeryc> oh fsck
[08:29] <daeryc> .... no dont think so
[08:29] <protocol2> or is it always like that by default?
[08:29] <tapas> rob_p: when is it evaluated?
[08:30] <rob_p> tapas: sometime on boot-up
[08:30] <tapas> ah, there's /etc/init.d/hdparm.. ok so there's a normal init script for it
[08:30] <tapas> ok
[08:30] <gnoodles> How long should fsck normall take to check a nearly empty 200 gig SATA drive?
[08:31] <lojikal> daeryc have you checked fstab to make sure the fs types are defined correctly?
[08:31] <mikejanssen> quick question
[08:31] <mikejanssen> i ahve a multimedia keyboard...
[08:31] <mikejanssen> how do i go about setting up my email button, to openup thunderbird, instead of evolution
[08:32] <rob_p> tapas: Actually, it is run from the init scripts.  Specifically /etc/rcS.d/ by default, I believe.
[08:32] <daeryc> they have the right fs listed
[08:32] <Healot> as usual the busiest channel on the network :)
[08:32] <lojikal> daeryc: hmmm... weird
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> mikejanssen: Right-click, properties, change the command to mozilla-thunderbird %s
[08:33] <rob_p> tapas: I think you will find a symlink to it's init script in there.
[08:33] <daeryc> mikejanssen: system menu, pefered applications
[08:33] <lojikal> anyone know how to forward all of my computer's ports through a single port (socks or proxy or something?)
[08:33] <tapas> rob_p: yah, all is fine now
[08:33] <tapas> thanks
[08:33] <rob_p> tapas: welcome
[08:34] <SnakeDiver> Why does my Ubuntu Install run the logo then a blank screen?
[08:34] <lojikal> snakediver try safe graphics mode
[08:34] <SnakeDiver> Tried, does same thing
[08:34] <daeryc> snake whats the vid card?
[08:35] <lojikal> snakediver what happends if you hit ctrl + alt + f1, do you get a prompt? if so, its video config, if not its something else
[08:35] <SnakeDiver> Okay.. I try that
[08:35] <SnakeDiver> Ctrl + Alt + F1
[08:35] <gnoodles> Back to my original question: When I try to boot into ubuntu, I get 'error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS'. This is a recent Athlon 64, so the BIOS is new, and it booted fine previsouly. Any thoughts?
[08:35] <SnakeDiver> Video card is a GeForce something
[08:36] <Elvis> i changed my login name and loin password like this "usermod -l asdf oldname" and "usermod -p 113 asdf",then logout,but i cant log in as asdf with passwd "113",why?
[08:37] <lojikal> elvis: why not "passwd asdf"?
[08:38] <Elvis> login incorrect
[08:38] <incorrect> is it possible to build debs on an amd64 for i386 ?
[08:38] <lojikal> elvis: try your old password
[08:38] <Elvis> 113 and asdf both are wrong
[08:38] <lojikal> i bet that one failed cause its not the min length ubuntu requires
[08:39] <SnakeDiver> ctrl+alt+f1 brings up a CLI
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <SnakeDiver> Does that mean Ubuntu doesnt like my graphics card?
[08:39] <lojikal> snakediver: ok, then you need to play with your video modes at startup -- try the ubuntu wiki and do the command line install if you want, its much easier to fix taht once its installed
[08:39] <Elvis> i login as oldname and oldpassword,and newname and oldpassword,both doesn't work
[08:40] <lojikal> try usermod -l oldname asdf && usermod -p asdf
[08:40] <SnakeDiver> So I just need to install via command line, then I can mess arnd w/ the vid card.  Ight, thnx for the help
[08:41] <Manstein> Well ppl, tnx to ur help i Finally got it working. Tnx for the help!!!!
[08:41] <Elvis> i cant login now,how to login as root?
[08:41] <lojikal> snakediver: that's what i'd do -- better than tryingot od it twice
[08:41] <HymnToLife> and GNOME is, well, not XFCE :D
[08:41] <lojikal> elvis: reboot, hit esc when grub loads, and select recovery mode
[08:41] <HymnToLife> (sorry)
[08:41] <HymnToLife> Elvis, boot in recovery mode
[08:42] <Elvis> ok,thank you
[08:42] <_`XeOn_> i tried to install the plugin and by mistake i installed mozilla how do i unistall it ?
[08:42] <lojikal> np
[08:42] <lojikal> apt-get remove [packagename] 
[08:42] <mikejanssen> sudo apt-get remove mozilla-browser
[08:42] <mikejanssen> i believe
[08:42] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:42] <Manstein> frogzoo: Tnx to u i managed to load it in the S99rc.local :D Tnx Again
[08:42] <mikejanssen> i do sudo for everything
[08:42] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:43] <_`XeOn_> =(
[08:43] <afterstep> the first thing i did when i installed ubuntu was sudo passwd
[08:43] <afterstep> :/
[08:43] <lojikal> yeah, i assume people are either root or will figure it out when it says permission denied, lolz
[08:43] <frogzoo> Manstein: cool, glad I could help
[08:44] <lojikal> So if i were trying to take all my ports and put them through a socks vpn so that i can connect to it on my campus network, is that possible?
[08:44] <mikejanssen> im proud of myself...i mostly fixed ubuntu all by myself
[08:45] <lojikal> gratz...
[08:45] <mikejanssen> and i couldnt even get on the gde
[08:45] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:45] <mikejanssen> had to do it from dos
[08:45] <mikejanssen> = )
[08:45] <mikejanssen> man
[08:45] <mikejanssen> its late
[08:45] <lojikal> i assume you mean commandline
[08:45] <mikejanssen> well
[08:45] <mikejanssen> yea
[08:45] <lojikal> dos is microsoft, which equals the bane of all evil...
[08:45] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:46] <lojikal> ubuntu is sexy, like swimming in heaven
[08:46] <lojikal> :)
[08:46] <afterstep> actually dos was some other company
[08:46] <mikejanssen> with little baby jesus's in golden diapers crawling around
[08:46] <afterstep> microsoft bought it
[08:46] <afterstep> but tomato tomatto
[08:46] <lojikal> ibm
[08:46] <lojikal> i believe
[08:46] <afterstep> no
[08:46] <afterstep> they sold rights to IBM
[08:46] <_`XeOn_> why some ppl  just hate ubuntu?
[08:46] <mikejanssen> some people are dumb
[08:46] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:46] <_`XeOn_> ye
[08:47] <mikejanssen> im <3ing ubuntu
[08:47] <mikejanssen> so glad im trying it
[08:47] <_`XeOn_> i just hate microsoft
[08:47] <mikejanssen> i work at gateway...i think linux should be on systems, not vista
[08:47] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:47] <SnakeDiver> What's this mean .. I see it on Ubuntu boot? :  Buffer I/O Error on HDC
[08:47] <afterstep> mikejanssen: tell your company to stop outsourcing tech support
[08:47] <mikejanssen> everybody is like 'I WANT VISTA!' im like 'vista sux0rz, get OO-BUNT-OO'
[08:47] <mikejanssen> gateway doesnt
[08:47] <mikejanssen> thats dell
[08:47] <afterstep> bull
[08:47] <mikejanssen> nah
[08:47] <mikejanssen> not bull
[08:47] <afterstep> i've talked to them too many times
[08:47] <mikejanssen> we have techs in north america
[08:48] <mikejanssen> they may be foreign
[08:48] <oxygen> hello
[08:48] <mikejanssen> but not out of n.a
[08:48] <oxygen> i need gcc library
[08:48] <afterstep> i know, it's just that when i've called or went online, half of them couldn't speak english at a 5th grade level
[08:48] <mikejanssen> we hire foreign people, cuz they are smart
[08:48] <oxygen> how can i install it ?
[08:48] <_`XeOn_> yeah i did a partition to give a tryout to ubuntu and hell ye windows partition will be erased!
[08:48] <HymnToLife> oxygen, what library ?
[08:48] <oxygen> gcc library
[08:48] <SnakeDiver> I see it on Ubuntu boot for Install:  Buffer I/O Error on HDC
[08:48] <oxygen> i want to write c code
[08:48] <asfalt> mikejanssen my brother was running the vista beta or some crap, i installed ubuntu for him, now he installed it on his gfriends computer also, vista 0, ubuntu 2
[08:48] <asfalt> ;)
[08:48] <oxygen> but library not found
[08:48] <mikejanssen> i had vista RTM installed
[08:49] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:49] <HymnToLife> oxygen, gcc is not a library dude, it's the GNU C Compiler
[08:49] <lojikal> afterstep: ah, you're right -- Digital Research created DR-DOS, then, when they wouldn't sell it to IBM, IMB partnered with MS to make MS-DOS
[08:49] <chemaja> wow that's weird i just had a problem with /usr/lib/libgcc
[08:49] <_`XeOn_> bravo
[08:49] <oxygen> yes
[08:49] <mikejanssen> then i uninstalled to put ubuntu on
[08:49] <afterstep> gnu c compiler collection
[08:49] <oxygen> GNU C cumpiler ..
[08:49] <afterstep> :p
[08:49] <oxygen> i need socket.h studio.h
[08:49] <mikejanssen> but, im getting vista ultimate and office pro 2k7 for free, in march
[08:49] <mikejanssen> so i dont know what imma do
[08:49] <HymnToLife> oxygen, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:49] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:49] <afterstep> mikejanssen: give away the cds
[08:49] <afterstep> duh
[08:49] <mikejanssen> give away...or sell
[08:49] <mikejanssen> hmmm...
[08:49] <mikejanssen> vista ultimate could get a pretty penny
[08:50] <_`XeOn_> i just lost a lot of files that was in win32 but who cares  bittorrent month baby
[08:50] <afterstep> unless there's a no resell clause on the eula
[08:50] <lojikal> have you read some of the crazy flaws in vista? i used it for awhile (rc2) and swiched back to xp... couldn't stand it
[08:50] <mikejanssen> who knows
[08:50] <lojikal> basically they've reskinned xpmce at this point
[08:50] <mikejanssen> rtm worked fine for me lojikal
[08:50] <afterstep> vista is getting bashed from every angle
[08:50] <afterstep> even microsoft advocates
[08:50] <mikejanssen> yea, they have sp1 in the works already
[08:50] <mikejanssen> 'fiji'
[08:51] <_`XeOn_> rtm just crash in my machine
[08:51] <mikejanssen> and there is a 'vienna' service pack they are working on for later this year
[08:51] <lojikal> i know, i was a supporter, then learned to hate it
[08:51] <afterstep> and like 90% of the reviews i've read have basically said that if you're using XP, there's no reason to upgrade to vista
[08:51] <lojikal> it installed in my machine, but too many little quirks to use it everyday
[08:51] <mikejanssen> vienna is supposedly going to change the look of vista
[08:51] <chemaja> windows is too hard to learn
[08:51] <mikejanssen> xp = best windows os
[08:51] <HymnToLife> mikejanssen, I'd rather say "least bad" :p
[08:52] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:52] <mikejanssen> i really do hope this is the year of linux...like they are saying
[08:52] <mikejanssen> i am loving it
[08:52] <_`XeOn_> even bin laden use linux
[08:52] <_`XeOn_> lol bad joke
[08:52] <afterstep> i'm a partner in a computer company, and that's all we push
[08:52] <afterstep> we don't install windows
[08:52] <HymnToLife> well, for me, it'll be the year I leave Linux
[08:53] <afterstep> generally ubuntu too
[08:53] <chemaja> this is the year i just stop caring about distros and get my hands dirty :D
[08:53] <lojikal> chuck norris used windows and ubuntu was born...
[08:53] <_`XeOn_> i just dont know why linux is  not the most used OS
[08:53] <lojikal> hymntolife, why?
[08:54] <mikejanssen> people = scared of change
[08:54] <mikejanssen> thats why
[08:54] <chemaja> _`XeOn_: GNU/Linux! :D
[08:54] <chemaja> :P
[08:54] <mikejanssen> nobody 30+ wants to learn linux
[08:54] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:54] <mikejanssen> they already know windows
[08:54] <_`XeOn_> heh
[08:54] <lojikal> you have to know a bit to get it working and hwot o use it
[08:54] <mikejanssen> does what they need, why change
[08:54] <_`XeOn_> kk im new to this
[08:54] <HymnToLife> lojikal, because I'm playing around with BSD stuff now and liking it a lot :p
[08:54] <joey1> hi
[08:54] <lojikal> windows still work on far more hw without configuration
[08:54] <lojikal> hi joey
[08:54] <chemaja> HymnToLife: which bsd?
[08:54] <_`XeOn_> i got divorced with microsoft a few hours ago
[08:54] <HymnToLife> Free
[08:54] <mikejanssen> i need a driver to make my mp150 printer work on ubuntu
[08:54] <mikejanssen> = (
[08:55] <afterstep> mikejanssen: if a customer asks me to install windows i make them read a copy of the eula
[08:55] <joey1> im new
[08:55] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:55] <chemaja> HymnToLife: i've run that before. for a couple of weeks
[08:55] <afterstep> they generally change their mind after that
[08:55] <_`XeOn_> lol
[08:55] <chemaja> iirc
[08:55] <mikejanssen> ive never read it
[08:55] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:55] <chemaja> lojikal: there's a billion FAQs -- check the web
[08:55] <_`XeOn_> and believe me if u read it u will be my hero
[08:55] <chemaja> lojikal: different code, different license, different heritage.
[08:56] <lojikal> still a unix base though?
[08:56] <chemaja> lojikal: yea
[08:56] <HymnToLife> different design, too and different philosophy
[08:56] <HymnToLife> lojikal, yes
[08:56] <lojikal> ahh
[08:56] <HymnToLife> actually, it's closer to the "original" UNIX than Linux is
[08:56] <lojikal> oh, isn't bsd what mac os is based on?
[08:56] <_`XeOn_> what u guys think about PLG?
[08:56] <HymnToLife> lojikal, partly, yep
[08:56] <Phonetic> yeesh, there are a lot of people in here
[08:57] <HymnToLife> actually, you can find pieces of BSD code in pretty much every OS
[08:57] <lojikal> better for problem solving :)
[08:57] <mikejanssen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution
[08:57] <HymnToLife> even in Windows :p
[08:57] <Phonetic> heh good good
[08:57] <oxygen> hel.c:1:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory
[08:57] <lojikal> i bet microsoft uses linux to develop windows...
[08:57] <oxygen> it s not work ..
[08:57] <_`XeOn_> ubuntu comunity is growing
[08:57] <oxygen> i want to install all library
[08:57] <Phonetic> would anybody possibly be able to help me with an installation issue in regards to a bootable cd?
[08:57] <chemaja> lojikal: they're more likely to use BSD
[08:57] <gnoodles> can anyone tell me how to have ubuntu re-run its auto grub setup, either from the live CD or from rescue mode?
[08:57] <Manstein> Hymntolife: what advantages does FBSD have for u that LInux doesn't?
[08:58] <lojikal> chemaja sorry, i meant unix, i'm still new to the difference in terminology
[08:58] <chemaja> Manstein: better documentation imho :D
[08:58] <gnoodles> Phonetic> Probably, but you gotta ask a question...
[08:58] <afterstep> mikejanssen: http://web.archive.org/web/20060518123848/linuxadvocate.org/articles.php?p=1
[08:58] <lojikal> gnoodles grub-install i believe
[08:58] <lojikal> Phonetic ask away
[08:59] <frogzoo> lojikal: redmond admit to a linux presence
[08:59] <gnoodles> Thanks lojikal.
[08:59] <Phonetic> oh well then, whenever I boot from the cd I have the installation prompt, after I select start installation it goes black brings up the progress bar and then it gives me errors
[08:59] <chemaja> frogzoo: yea aren't they working with novell now :D
[08:59] <selinuxium> Hi all, I am in band and would like to build a disc burning machine. how difficult is it to send the burning information to all of the drives at once?
[09:00] <frogzoo> chemaja: there is that
[09:00] <frogzoo> beryl is pure lack of substance, but gosh when your boss looks over your shoulder - heh
[09:00] <Phonetic> sorry im on a kvm and i switched to grab the errors
[09:00] <afterstep> frogzoo: i like some of its features
[09:01] <HymnToLife> Manstein, it has that "ports" system which is the best way to install software I know of
[09:01] <mikejanssen> sweet eula
[09:01] <HymnToLife> it make building stuf from source as easy as installing packages in UBuntu
[09:01] <_`XeOn_> aggrrr
[09:01] <lojikal> sorry 'bout that
[09:01] <Phonetic> one error is "Hdc: timeout waiting for DMA not ready"
[09:01] <mikejanssen> = X
[09:01] <_`XeOn_> theres no way to fix my firefox plugin
[09:01] <mikejanssen> thank goodness for dual boots
[09:01] <Manstein> does it now? I always thought the LFS project was the only alternative :D
[09:01] <Phonetic> another is Buffer I/O error on device hdc logical block 357564
[09:01] <lojikal> i'm sure there is
[09:02] <Phonetic> and that's pretty much what i've been dealing with all night
[09:02] <chemaja> Manstein: i'm building-up an LFS right now
[09:02] <frogzoo> Phonetic: dude - back up data you need
[09:02] <_`XeOn_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: totem-gstreamer  (HELP)
[09:02] <arzi25> hi
[09:03] <Manstein> chemaja:gl and hf then :D
[09:03] <Phonetic> any reason?
[09:03] <Phonetic> its a test tower
[09:03] <chemaja> Manstein: HighFive?
[09:03] <arzi25> i need help installing beryl
[09:03] <Phonetic> there's nothing important on it
[09:03] <chemaja> Manstein: and "thanks"
[09:03] <chemaja> Manstein: i'm up to building gcc for the main system
[09:03] <chemaja> Manstein: using the Package User pkgmgmt. method
[09:03] <frogzoo> Phonetic: repeated timeouts on a hard disk is a sure sign the drive is failing
[09:04] <Phonetic> sigh
[09:04] <arzi25> could some experienced user help newbie to install beryl pls
[09:04] <Phonetic> so I should just drop a different hard drive in, because red hat doesn't have a problem installing from the cd
[09:05] <AmbientMst1> Grrr
[09:05] <frogzoo> Phonetic: ide or sata?
[09:05] <Phonetic> ide
[09:05] <Manstein> chemaja: i've always (3 times nwo) just typed the install, got me my first linux experiences. It actually held me back quite some time. For the absolute linux noob ubuntu is much more attractive (i'm one of the first time - linux noobs :D)
[09:05] <AmbientMst1> Can anyone help me? I'm not getting it to boot into linux at all
[09:05] <chemaja> Manstein: "typed the install" -- what do you mean?
[09:06] <Manstein> chemaja: just followed the book, and had to type everything myself (no pkg system)
[09:06] <HymnToLife> AmbientMst1, could you please be more specific ? What happens when you try to boot ?
[09:06] <_`XeOn_> ok im going back to windows
[09:06] <AmbientMst1> Ok
[09:06] <AmbientMst1> Well, I was waiting for a reply before I got specific
[09:06] <AmbientMst1> So I pop in the 5th live cd I've burned today
[09:07] <AmbientMst1> This one's clean (checked the sum)
[09:07] <AmbientMst1> And I change my sequence, load it up
[09:07] <AmbientMst1> Comes up on the screen
[09:07] <AmbientMst1> I choose Start Or Install Linux
[09:07] <frogzoo> Phonetic: you've set the jumpers to master/slaver properly?
[09:07] <chemaja> Manstein: ok. i'm still typing everything myself, i'm just building and install each app under seperate user accounts,  using sticky dirs for /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc.
[09:07] <incorrect> does anyone here know how to compile for i386 on ia64?
[09:07] <incorrect> amd64 even
[09:08] <AmbientMst1> So it gives me this error: I/O Error: Error reading boot cd. Huh, that's funny I said- that's the same message I keep getting. So I take it down, put it in another comp, and it says invalid or corrupt kernel image. Casper/VMLinuz cannot be found (when I check for defects)
[09:08] <Phonetic> yeah they're working as intended
[09:09] <Madpilot> AmbientMst1, but the md5sum checked out, and you burned slow - 4x or so?
[09:09] <AmbientMst1> Yes
[09:09] <Manstein> chemaja: Aaaaah. Well, i had the patience to do it on a spare 500 mhz laptop. Those time units they used? Man, 1 took like forever :D.
[09:09] <AmbientMst1> Sum checked out clean
[09:09] <AmbientMst1> Burned at 4
[09:10] <chalcedny> grep is kewl-dfrtttt
[09:10] <chemaja> Manstein: heh, yeah it takes a while. im doing it at work using vmware to run a linux live CD and also to map across to my real (host OS) partitions
[09:10] <Madpilot> AmbientMst1, but the liveCD doesn't even get to the first menu when it starts up?
[09:10] <AmbientMst1> You mean the boot options?
[09:10] <AmbientMst1> It gets to that
[09:10] <AmbientMst1> But as soon as I say Start Or Install or Start in safe graphics mode
[09:11] <chemaja> Manstein: that way i dont have to dual boot -- i can build it up while in windows (i need to be in windows for work).... when the system is done i just reboot into it (ie. i'm making a dual boot system)
[09:11] <AmbientMst1> It starts loading for about 5 min
[09:11] <AmbientMst1> Then gives me the I/O msg.
[09:11] <Madpilot> AmbientMst1, below 'Install' in that menu should be a "Check This CD" option - have you run that?
[09:11] <Manstein> chemaja: not quite @ that level yet myself :D
[09:11] <AmbientMst1> Yes
[09:12] <AmbientMst1> I said it said Casper/VMLinuz is missing or corrupted or something
[09:12] <Madpilot> AmbientMst1, then the burn didn't work, evidently. caspar is part of the livecd filesystem setup
[09:13] <AmbientMst1> Hrrrr
[09:14] <oxygen>  iostream.h: No such file or directory
[09:14] <oxygen> help me pls
[09:14] <chemaja> Manstein: heh, yea it's fairly intense. i'm doing it mainly for education.
[09:15] <Manstein> what firewall are u guys running?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | Manstein
[09:15] <ubotu> Manstein: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:15] <_`XeOn_> man i need help with totem
[09:15] <Madpilot> _`XeOn_, what's up w/ totem?
[09:16] <Phonetic> er don't want to be a bother, but are you still there frog?
[09:16] <_`XeOn_> i cant install totem firefox plugin
[09:16] <_`XeOn_> it says
[09:16] <_`XeOn_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: totem-gstreamer
[09:17] <frogzoo> Phonetic: here for a shortwhile - sup?
[09:17] <oxygen> how can install  iostream.h
[09:18] <_`XeOn_> im rcurrently removing all to try to reinstall but no idea if it goin to work
[09:19] <Phonetic> what do you suggest about the whole hdc error?
[09:19] <frogzoo> oxygen: think you need linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:19] <Phonetic> just drop a new harddrive and move on
[09:19] <AstralJava> Hey guys, anyone tweaked T-bird to alert about new messages thru dbus?
[09:20] <linda> XeOn - Did you register plugins?
[09:20] <oxygen> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:20] <_`XeOn_> i have no idea
[09:21] <oxygen> how can i install inux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:21] <gnoodles> Sorry, dumb question: How do I know which hard drive is my "first hard drive" to reinstall grub to? The BIOS just says the boot device is "hard drive". My SATA drive shows up first in dmesg, followed by hdc & hdd (hda is my cdrom).
[09:21] <_`XeOn_> i just unistall it but now i cant install again it says conflict with another application
[09:22] <frogzoo> Phonetic: I'd say check your cables/power/IDE jumpers - IDE just works - usually
[09:22] <linda> XeOn gst-register-0.8
[09:22] <frootstripe> hi everyone - I was copying a flac dir onto my drive and the drive just started spinning out of control. I shutdown all apps (I thought).  Could someone tell what might be
[09:22] <Phonetic> thanks ill check it out
[09:22] <frootstripe> going on
[09:22] <frogzoo> oxygen: sorry bum steer - you want libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[09:22] <_`XeOn_> what it do?
[09:22] <frogzoo> oxygen: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[09:23] <oxygen> E: Couldn't find package libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[09:23] <_`XeOn_> bash: gst-register-0.8: command not found
[09:24] <oxygen> :(
[09:24] <Manstein> footstripe: U mean .flac files (lossless)?
[09:24] <frootstripe> yes
[09:25] <Manstein> footstripe: how long has the drive been in use?
[09:25] <frootstripe> 4 years around, i guess
[09:25] <_`XeOn_> should i do ?  rm -rf ~/.gstreamer-0.10
[09:25] <Manstein> footstripe: were u copying from and to the same disk?
[09:26] <Manstein> footstripe: or is there another drive involved?
[09:26] <frootstripe> manstein: from cd-drive to hdd
[09:26] <AmbientMst1> Well, all I have left are 680mb disks and those surely won't work.
[09:26] <linda> XeOn It resgisters the pluns-ins from the Gstreamers libraries, I think
[09:26] <erpo> How do I get per-wireless-network interface settings? When I connect to a certain network, I want a static IP. When I connect to another network, I want my laptop to get its information from DHCP. How?
[09:26] <AmbientMst1> Hmm, guess I'll have to wait for tomorrow
[09:26] <oxygen> help me .. why i can install ibstdc++6-4.1-dev
[09:26] <oxygen> E: Couldn't find package libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[09:26] <_`XeOn_> aaaahhh i dont know how to fix this
[09:26] <oxygen> i cany
[09:26] <Manstein> frootstripe: by spinning u mean a strange noise coming from the hd-drive?
[09:26] <oxygen> i cant
[09:27] <Manstein> frootstripe: which brand drive is it?
[09:27] <erpo> oxygen: There apparently isn't a package by that name.
[09:27] <linda> I would try 'gst-register-0.10'
[09:27] <oxygen> erpo.. i need libs
[09:28] <frootstripe> manstein: no, it isnt making any noise out of the ordinary, but it is spinning continously (both the cd-drive and hdd). when i stop the transfer, the hdd keeps spinning
[09:28] <oxygen> but i cant install it .(
[09:28] <erpo> oxygen: The -dev packages aren't needed to run any programs. Only to compile programs, because they contain no shared libraries.
[09:28] <_`XeOn_> bash: gst-register-0.10: command not found
[09:29] <Manstein> frootstripe: i think it is normal for the hdd to spin for some time after last data access, depends on settings i think?
[09:29] <linda> XeOn I thought you already installed
[09:30] <_`XeOn_> but it doesnt work
[09:30] <_`XeOn_> i cant watch any vid
[09:30] <gnoodles> Sorry, dumb question: How do I know which hard drive is my "first hard drive" to reinstall grub to? The BIOS just says the boot device is "hard drive". My SATA drive shows up first in dmesg, followed by hdc & hdd (hda is my cdrom).
[09:31] <frootstripe> manstein: i don't know, it seemed to be just going and going.... Seems to happen when I have many processes going.
[09:31] <linda> on Edgy
[09:31] <Madpilot> _`XeOn_, have you read the whole of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats through?
[09:31] <BoshiG3> !ati
[09:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <Madpilot> gnoodles, you've got both SATA & ATA/IDE hard drives?
[09:31] <_`XeOn_> i did but i dont understand a thing
[09:32] <_`XeOn_> i just started using this today
[09:32] <Manstein> frootstripe: might be vertual memory?
[09:32] <gnoodles> Madpilot: Yes
[09:32] <Manstein> frootstripe: how many ram do u have in ur machine?
[09:32] <linda> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse \gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-plugins \gstreamer0.8-lame
[09:32] <frootstripe> manstein: 2G
[09:32] <yopad> whats the fastest browser...is it swiftfox?
[09:33] <yopad> or firefox with fasterfox?
[09:33] <Manstein> frootstripe: soz, dunno m8
[09:33] <linda> then - gst-register-0.8
[09:33] <gnoodles> Madpilot: Is it a problem to mix SATA & ATA?
[09:34] <BoshiG3> Will a Radeon 9000 not work with ubuntu properly or something?
[09:34] <Madpilot> _`XeOn_, go through RestrictedFormats again, slowly, and read some of the pages it links to for more detail on istalling stuff in Ubuntu & other subjects
[09:34] <MrWGW_Alt> good evening
[09:34] <MrWGW_Alt> how do I run as root?
[09:34] <Madpilot> gnoodles, shouldn't be, at one point I had 1 SATA, 2 ATA, now I've just got the one SATA
[09:34] <MrWGW_Alt> and yes, I know, its discouraged
[09:35] <MrWGW_Alt> but I need to access the filesystem
[09:35] <_`XeOn_> linda: thanks ill try it ur linda
[09:35] <frootstripe> manstein: no worries, seems to not be a problem when I'm not running a lot of stuff. Just not used this happening in linux! :)
[09:35] <BoshiG3> Can I install open source ati drivers with a ATI Radeon 9000?
[09:36] <gnoodles> Madpiot: Good. But no idea how to tell which one is the actual boot drive?
[09:36] <linda> O'REILLY Ubuntu Hacks
[09:39] <BoshiG3> Can someone help me with installing ATI drivers please?
[09:39] <Zaggynl> woot
[09:39] <Zaggynl> Envy has been updated for ATI!
[09:39] <BoshiG3> Oh really!?
[09:39] <BoshiG3> Link?
[09:39] <Zaggynl> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html and http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/
[09:39] <spinacz> siema
[09:39] <Zaggynl> Someone send him a ATI RADEON X1600 PRO
[09:39] <Zaggynl> I guess that got things rolling :)
[09:39] <_`XeOn_> but thats nvidia
[09:40] <Zaggynl> 'The update is warmly recommended to ATI users.'
[09:40] <Zaggynl> read the second link
[09:40] <_`XeOn_> true
[09:40] <Zaggynl> '"Envy" is a command line application for Ubuntu Linux written in Python which will:
[09:40] <Zaggynl> 1) detect the model of your graphic card (ATI and Nvidia cards are supported)'
[09:40] <_`XeOn_> nice i gonna use it
[09:40] <Zaggynl> I've been using it for nvidia for a while, would be awesome if it worked for ATI too
[09:40] <Zaggynl> Lots of people having a lot of problems with ATI
[09:41] <BoshiG3> so, I can use normal envy, and will be able to install ATI drivers?
[09:41] <Zaggynl> He claims you will be
[09:41] <_`XeOn_> ATI always got insues even in win32 OS
[09:41] <BoshiG3> when is that?
[09:41] <Zaggynl> I haven't tried those for ATI myself yet
[09:41] <Zaggynl> BoshiG3, well, Envy should support ATI right now
[09:41] <BoshiG3> So, it can't do ATI yet?
[09:42] <BoshiG3> ah..
[09:42] <BoshiG3> Been a while since I messed with Ubuntu. Gave up last time due to nvidia problems
[09:42] <BoshiG3> Was a cheap walmart card, didn't work right with ubuntu
[09:42] <BoshiG3> now I have 2 comps, so I'm messing with it again,
[09:42] <Zaggynl> Official Envy thread on the forum: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[09:43] <BoshiG3> I actually like it better, just couldn't get it to work right with my graphics card last time
[09:43] <adamonline45> Does the memtest on the ubuntu server cd just loop over and over?  It got to 95%, and the next time I looked it was back to 10%...
[09:43] <gnoodles> Sorry, one more try then I'll go away: Does anyone know how to tell which of my HDs is the actual boot drive? BIOS just says "Hard Drive". I assume it's either my SATA drive or HDC (nothing on HDA or B). I need to know to reinstall grub.
[09:44] <Zaggynl> gnoodles, try 'sudo gparted'
[09:44] <_`XeOn_> hmmm well i installed that but i keep having the same problem choppy images with wmv format
[09:45] <Zaggynl> !wmv
[09:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:45] <Rynoo> anyone know how to change the colors of the menu bar(s) that contain the applications - places - system menus?
[09:45] <gnoodles> Zaggyl: Can't get into ubuntu to run gnome. Can I just use parted from rescue mode?
[09:46] <Zaggynl> oh sorry, didn't know you were at CLI
[09:46] <gnoodles> Yup. My Grub appears to be hosed so I can only get to rescue.
[09:46] <BoshiG3> gnoodles: get a live cd
[09:46] <Rynoo> anyone know how to change the colors of the menu bar(s) that contain the applications - places - system menus?
[09:47] <gnoodles> Got a live CD.
[09:47] <gnoodles> HOw does that help?
[09:47] <mneptok> gnoodles: boot off it, chroot, reinstall grub
[09:48] <gnoodles> I can reinstall grub from rescue, but only if I know the boot drive. I presume I still need to know the boot drive if I boot from an insta;ll CD
[09:49] <gnoodles> At least I assume I can reinstall grub from rescue...
[09:50] <gnoodles> Here's the original problem... Getting "error 18: selected cyl. exceeds max supported by BIOS" when I try to boot into ubuntu. Was working before ubuntu crashed earlier tonight
[09:50] <gnoodles> I'm hoping that reinstalling grub will fix the problem.
[09:51] <BoshiG3> Where is Envy at, after it's installed?
[09:51] <riotkittie> sudo update db && locate envy
[09:51] <riotkittie> errr .... sudo updatedb && locate envy
[09:51] <linda> XeOn I assume you have w32codecs, mplayer and dsl. Gtreamer work great for me
[09:51] <gnoodles> You need to download envy to your desktop & run it from there.
[09:52] <BoshiG3> I did, some installer package
[09:52] <BoshiG3> .deb
[09:52] <Zaggynl> How can I make the startup sounds play without ESD?
[09:52] <BoshiG3> off of the website
[09:52] <gnoodles> Sorry, disregard that envy comment. I'm thinking of something else
[09:52] <thufir007> first ubuntu install:  onto slave drive next to windows partition.  I haven't done any research into this...coming from fedora.
[09:52] <BoshiG3> lol
[09:54] <fabio__|> i tryed to install ubuntu on SCSI disks.. the partitioner correctly sees the disks, but after rebooting, the boot loader is not found :|
[09:57] <BoshiG3> Wow, that's cool
[09:58] <BoshiG3> You can middle click on the icons next to your system menu and you can drag them
[09:58] <BoshiG3> I still can't find envy though XD
[09:58] <BoshiG3> I'm laughing at how stupid I feel right now, but I have two monitors very close together, CRT's, and it's been making my eyes and head area feel weird
[09:59] <BoshiG3> Static or magnetism or something
[09:59] <interfear> I have a burned cd with a *.mdf image file I wish to mount in linux, i can view the file when in windows, however from linux i see no files on the cd.. any ideas?
[10:01] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows which file I have to edit to play a sound a boot?
[10:02] <graniti> Hi. I have to hide the mouse cursor before launching a process... is there a way to do it? thnks
[10:07] <thufir007> fedora allows installation from a single cd with "askmethod".  can I do somehing similar with ubuntu?
[10:07] <barata> is 6.10 good?
[10:09] <adamonline45> ! LVM
[10:09] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:10] <BoshiG3> Can anyone here help me with envy?
[10:11] <oxygen> i want to all c and c+ librarys
[10:12] <oxygen> i want to all  install c and c+ librarys
[10:12] <oxygen> how can i do ?
[10:12] <BoshiG3> How do I restart from console?
[10:12] <Madpilot> BoshiG3, "sudo shutdown -r now" will do it - the -r is 'restart'
[10:13] <BoshiG3> ah thank you so much
[10:13] <BoshiG3> Can you help me with something else too?
[10:13] <BoshiG3> please?
[10:14] <BoshiG3> I'm trying to install my ATI drivers with Envy, but it encounters package not found errors
[10:15] <adamonline45> !ati
[10:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <BoshiG3> that's not the same thing
[10:16] <BoshiG3> How do I change my repositories?
[10:17] <adamonline45> are you using a gui?
[10:17] <BoshiG3> yeah, GNOME
[10:17] <adamonline45> Click System > Snaptic Package Manager > Settings > Depositories
[10:17] <adamonline45> er... repositories :D
[10:18] <chemaja> heheheheh
[10:18] <BoshiG3> Where is Synaptic Package Manager at?
[10:18] <BoshiG3> lol, my fault
[10:18] <adamonline45> hahah, my girlfriend laughed and said 'suppositories' and threw me off...  It could been worse ;)
[10:18] <BoshiG3> I found it
[10:18] <BoshiG3> lol
[10:18] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: sweet
[10:18] <BoshiG3> Thank you very much
[10:18] <BoshiG3> Also though I'm having trouble with Envy
[10:18] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: No problem!
[10:19] <Vuen> hey guys, what bash command will print the current folder?
[10:19] <adamonline45> Ahh, I wish I could help you, I don't even know what it does =)
[10:19] <pabix> Vuen ls
[10:19] <adamonline45> !envy | adamonline45
[10:19] <ubotu> adamonline45: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:19] <BoshiG3> Installs graphics drivers
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: that just prints the contents of the current folder. i want it to print out the location
[10:19] <pabix> Vuen pwd ?
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: like if i run it in ~, i want it to output "/home/nick"
[10:19] <adamonline45> Vuew pwd
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: perfect thanks
[10:20] <BoshiG3> Well, it is saying I don't have a few packages
[10:20] <BoshiG3> and I figured it was because the repositories
[10:20] <pabix> Vuen or echo $PWD
[10:20] <BoshiG3> ?
[10:21] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: You may be thinking about 'dependancies'?
[10:22] <pabix> So, should anybody have a clue how to install the CJK packages on texlive-full (edgy)?
[10:22] <CheshireViking> BoshiG3: how are you trying to install Envy? is it through Synaptic? I installed using synaptic, I'd already ticked the boxes to add a couple of extra repositories and it installed without problem
[10:22] <cbx33> is ntfs write support stable yet in edgy?
[10:23] <adamonline45> Yeah, I haven't had much problem with dependancies using apt-get, since I added the other official respositories
[10:23] <adamonline45> ... and one or two others, too, I think...
[10:26] <adamonline45> So, anyone got any suggestions for an easy-to-use text editor, for non-gui server install?
[10:26] <adamonline45> vi's just not my style...
[10:26] <kraut> adamonline45: vim ;)
[10:27] <adamonline45> kraut: Is that easier to use?  Like, more intuitive?
[10:27] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, no, it's justa vi with more functionnality
[10:27] <kraut> adamonline45: don't know what do you mean with intuitive, but the hotkeys are really cool if you understood them
[10:27] <kraut> also you have syntax highlighting
[10:28] <HymnToLife> for an intuitive text editor, use nano
[10:28] <bokey> adamonline45, use nano
[10:28] <CheshireViking> BoshiG3: I was only using the official repositories, but sadly, I'm not on an Ubuntu machine to be able to say which ones I'd added, but from memory, it was just the universe & multiverse I've got added as extras
[10:28] <aldin> echo "syntax on" > ~/.vimrc
[10:28] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Cool, thank you! Do you know if that comes with dapper server?
[10:29] <adamonline45> others, too, thanks for the answers
[10:29] <pabix> adamonline45 yes
[10:29] <HymnToLife> yes it does
[10:29] <BoshiG3> I still don't know how to do it lol
[10:29] <adamonline45> cooooool!
[10:29] <pabix> adamonline45 default editors with all Ubuntu distribs are nano&vi
[10:29] <HymnToLife> pabix, not al of them have nano
[10:29] <BoshiG3> I can't figure out whether to use the ati.com drivers, or some ubuntu drivers, but I can't figure out how to do the ati drivers
[10:30] <HymnToLife> at my school, they run mostly Mandrake and Fedora boxes, no nano
[10:30] <rofl> gentoo has nano by default-- no vi
[10:30] <aldin> on edgy sudo apt-get install vim
[10:30] <BoshiG3> what's vim?
[10:30] <pabix> HymnToLife Ubuntu
[10:30] <HymnToLife> !vim
[10:30] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[10:31] <aldin> vi improoved
[10:31] <BoshiG3> oh
[10:31] <aldin> man vim
[10:31] <BoshiG3> I know what Vim is, I was thinking gvim or something
[10:31] <BoshiG3> I forgot lol
[10:31] <BoshiG3> Brain went stupid
[10:31] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: I don't think ATI has linux drivers on their website... Or are they there, just closed source?  Hah, wrong convo to involve myself in =D
[10:31] <kingrayray> guys i'm having glx issues.. http://pastebin.ca/326706
[10:31] <rofl> Ati does have drivers: fglrx
[10:31] <BoshiG3> admonline45: they have them, just not as good as the others
[10:31] <aldin> adamonline45: ati gives drivers (proprietary)
[10:31] <BoshiG3> it sucks, I can't figure out how to do the Open ones
[10:32] <adamonline45> gotcha
[10:32] <aldin> u can find them on ati.com
[10:32] <rofl> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[10:32] <rofl> they have x86 linux and x86_64
[10:32] <BoshiG3> that's not the same though I thought, they're proprietary and crappy?
[10:32] <aldin> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:33] <HymnToLife> BoshiG3, yep, unllike nvidia's who are proprietary but definitely not crappy
[10:34] <aldin> ati's fine now at least for me (not good as nvidia but still)
[10:34] <BoshiG3> Well, I have a 32 bit, with a Radeon 9000. I just downloaded the driver, with aldin's line
[10:34] <BoshiG3> but what do I do after that?
[10:35] <aldin> BoshiG3: now add
[10:35] <incorrect> do most people maintain the own backports for dapper?
[10:35] <BoshiG3> add?
[10:35] <aldin> BoshiG3: just sec
[10:35] <BoshiG3> k
[10:36] <adamonline45> !backport | adamonline45
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <brice> Hello
[10:37] <rofl> hello
[10:38] <YoshiG3> whatsup
[10:38] <brice> I search but don't find networkmanager-openvnc for ubuntu do you know where i can find it please?
[10:38] <brice> i try to connect my ubuntu to an ipcop vpn
[10:38] <aldin> YoshiG3: check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2729/
[10:38] <isofunk> hello
[10:38] <cokeslut> sup?
[10:38] <aldin> YoshiG3: and let me know
[10:38] <dromer> can anyone help with X-forwarding using putty and Xming? I'm not sure what to do
[10:39] <rofl> I would just use cygwin
[10:40] <YoshiG3> Yeah thanks for that aldin, but I mean I just got done typing "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" and I let it run, and what do I do now?
[10:41] <aldin> YoshiG3: read this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2729/
[10:41] <YoshiG3> I did
[10:41] <dromer> rofl: I have Xming installed on a usb-drive, cygwin is too big I think
[10:41] <rofl> well
[10:41] <oxygen> how can i upgrade firefox
[10:41] <YoshiG3> Did it automatically install the correct driver for my system aldin?
[10:41] <isofunk> ??
[10:41] <oxygen> i am use firefox1.5.0.9
[10:42] <oxygen> i want to upgrade my firefox
[10:42] <rofl> Im not sure about that-- I've never use Xming.  I just use Cygwin with ssh and X windows installed.  It shouldnt be THAT big.
[10:42] <kingrayray> guys i'm having glx issues.. http://pastebin.ca/326706 anybody know where to start?
[10:43] <adamonline45> Anybody have an idea why a brand new ubuntu-server install would hang at the first boot?  It says "GRUB _"
[10:44] <aldin> YoshiG3: did u follow all the commands
[10:45] <telefono> hi to all
[10:45] <adamonline45> hi
[10:45] <rofl> hi
[10:45] <dromer> rofl: I've installed it before on a windows pc, and it was definatly bigger than the ~14mb Xming takes (and another ~500kb for putty ofcourse)
[10:45] <rofl> well
[10:45] <rofl> you wouldn't need putty
[10:46] <telefono> I have a problem after upgraded to edgy whit ATI X1400
[10:46] <rofl> but that wouldnt make much of a difference
[10:47] <rofl> dromer: you may want to see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225898
[10:48] <YoshiG3> aldin, sorry about that, I just did all those commands. It's rebooting now
[10:48] <THJ> ubuntu configured my SiS 760GX on-board chipset (laptop) as "vesa" in xorg.conf. i attempted changing it to "sis" since the driver
[10:48] <THJ> driver's documentation reports supporting it.
[10:48] <THJ> only problem is, it only works for about 5 seconds, and then my screen freezes completely.
[10:49] <THJ> the vesa driver was working fine except for being very slow, which is why i attempted switching. any suggestions on what could be wrong?
[10:50] <YoshiG3> aldin: my screen just went black, and it's not coming back
[10:50] <YoshiG3> After the restart
[10:50] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:50] <THJ> i did some google searching on it but it didn't turn up anything :|
[10:51] <dromer> rofl: thnx
[10:51] <rofl> dromer: np
[10:51] <THJ> so i'm asking here as a last resort
[10:51] <aldin> YoshiG3: what exactly u did
[10:51] <YoshiG3> aldin: everything in that pastebin
[10:51] <aldin> do u have ati card
[10:52] <YoshiG3> yes
[10:52] <aldin> haow do u chat now
[10:52] <whyme> !binfmt
[10:52] <YoshiG3> On a windows computer righ tnext to it
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binfmt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <YoshiG3> It's loading ubuntu right now, I restarted it again
[10:53] <aldin> YoshiG3: ok,
[10:53] <YoshiG3> Then nothing after that
[10:53] <YoshiG3> not even a console
[10:53] <THJ> hm, ok, my chipset's too obscure, lol. i'll try some more troubleshooting on my own. bye!
[10:53] <aldin> YoshiG3: is it freezed can yu turn on/off capslock numlock
[10:54] <YoshiG3> can't tell, wireless keyboard lol
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[10:54] <YoshiG3> I'm trying to get into bios, I think it might be trying to use an integrated card, because my monitor turns off
[10:54] <aldin> YoshiG3: which ati card u have
[10:55] <YoshiG3> But, I can't get into BIOS for some reason
[10:55] <aDN|j0n3> hi from spain! i have recently installed 6.10 edgy in a dell inspiron 9400 with a 7900gs. Latest nvidia drivers make gnome to crash and i don't know where to search or what to do. Thounsads forums read but no way... Any help? Thank you very much!
[10:55] <YoshiG3> Radeon 9000
[10:55] <aldin> maybe that card isnt supported by the proprietary ati drivers
[10:55] <aldin> only opensource
[10:55] <YoshiG3> well, how do I install then?
[10:55] <SS2> where should I place my own build kernel module?
[10:56] <YoshiG3> How do I get into bios, just wanna make sure I'm not pressing the wrong buttons
[10:56] <aldin> just write radeon in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <Edulix> hello world!!
[10:56] <YoshiG3> how will that install it?
[10:56] <Edulix> which ubuntu software could I use to multiply matrixes?
[10:56] <aldin> YoshiG3: delete button or F2 button
[10:56] <YoshiG3> And, I can't even get to console
[10:56] <Edulix> a math program
[10:56] <Edulix> which one?
[10:56] <YoshiG3> still won't go for some reason
[10:57] <YoshiG3> It's showing a "Select Boot Device"
[10:57] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:57] <aldin> YoshiG3: can u select some
[10:57] <YoshiG3> yeah weird huh
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[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Edulix: octave or scilab
[10:58] <aldin> YoshiG3: do u have live cd ubuntu
[10:58] <HymnToLife> !ops
[10:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:58] <YoshiG3> yeah
[10:58] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: ?
[10:58] <elkbuntu> HymnToLife, on it. he left too quick
[10:58] <HymnToLife> we have some spamming here
[10:58] <Madpilot> HymnToLife, already gone
[10:58] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, freeizgood spammage
[10:58] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, sorry :p
[10:58] <aldin> could u tryit on tha "blank"machine
[10:58] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: i saw ty
[10:58] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, wrong person...
[10:59] <gnomefreak> crap
[10:59] <YoshiG3> aldin: Yeah, ubuntu loads and the monitor turns off
[10:59] <aldin> great
[10:59] <aldin> leti it go
[10:59] <YoshiG3> not with the cd
[10:59] <YoshiG3> I havn't tried the live cd yet
[10:59] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:59] <YoshiG3> But, I still can't get into bios
[10:59] <YoshiG3> It's weird
[10:59] <aldin> how come ubuntu goes now
[10:59] <YoshiG3> I'm gonna try with the cd
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: just sec
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: we go on private ok
[11:00] <YoshiG3> it doesn't load now, it goes through the "loading" screen, not nautilus and all that
[11:00] <asfalt> my microphone isn't working (baulk) tried to use skype test call , it is plugged in the same port as when i dual boot to windows where it works , just when i thought all sound worked here, where can i troubleshoot? in alsamixer my mic is like red there is no bar to adjust volume
[11:00] <YoshiG3> hah, it was delete
[11:00] <YoshiG3> my dumbness >.<
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[11:01] <sandro__> hi
[11:01] <rofl> hi
[11:01] <sandro__> how could i chance the layout keyboard to the italian
[11:01] <rofl> edit your xorg
[11:01] <pabix> sandro__ System>Preferences>Keyboard
[11:01] <aldin> sandro__:  setxkbmap it
[11:01] <rofl> or that
[11:01] <rofl> :)
[11:01] <oFF-beAt> asfalt, tru skype sound settings for the used sound device
[11:01] <oFF-beAt> *try
[11:01] <aldin> sais it working
[11:01] <sandro__> by shell
[11:02] <sandro__> and by restart it keeps
[11:02] <asfalt> oFF-beAt i turned off skype and thought i would at least do the testing where i can turn up the mike and hear self/feedback in speakers
[11:02] <asfalt> i might try that though
[11:02] <asfalt> but i figured it has to work outside of skype
[11:02] <asfalt> before skype can use it
[11:03] <pabix> sandro__ put a xkbmap into your .xsession
[11:03] <aldin> sandro__: do u have kde or know started now
[11:03] <sandro__> hmm
[11:03] <sandro__> don't aunderstand
[11:03] <sandro__> what is xbmap
[11:03] <sandro__> i have installa ubuntu server
[11:03] <sandro__> it it come with english keyboard, i want the italian one
[11:04] <beniamino> how can i reconfigure /dev/dsp to point to my USB headset (which is currently /dev/dsp1)?
[11:04] <joekilner> Hi. quick sanity check here - Is there a problem with the signature on the backports update server (apt-get upgrade returns an error)?
[11:05] <asfalt> joekilner i received a lot of errors earlier from .au mirrors
[11:05] <asfalt> not sure if related or whatnot just mentioning
[11:05] <joekilner> asfalt - cheers
[11:05] <Spee_Der> I got errors also, but just re-issued the command a few times and cleared and did its job.
[11:06] <asfalt> likewise, it seems there were connection problems
[11:06] <Spee_Der> Errors also with apt-get update, but did same thing, sent two or three times and voila, no problem.
[11:06] <asfalt> what i would like now is for my mike to work
[11:07] <asfalt> without doing anything extravagant but i think i checked every setting already
[11:07] <joekilner> Hmmm.... Not the same then. This is telling me that something on the backport servers is not signed correctly and it comes up every time.
[11:07] <asfalt> hmm
[11:07] <asfalt> update/reinstate the key?
[11:07] <joekilner> Might try not using the gb mirrors and see if that works
[11:07] <asfalt> and if it still says that you know it's the other end
[11:07] <sandro__> hi man
[11:08] <joekilner> asfalt - yeah I'll try that too. thanks.
[11:08] <sandro__> how could i do it, please is something important
[11:08] <Jowi> !it | sandro__ maybe you can get better help here
[11:08] <ubotu> sandro__ maybe you can get better help here: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:08] <oFF-beAt> asfalt, tools>options>sound devices> switch between OSS n ALSA n check
[11:09] <Viglen> hey
[11:09] <Viglen> anyone around
[11:09] <Viglen> my bootloader is corrupted
[11:10] <Viglen> i was advised to run sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub from the terminal in the live cd
[11:10] <Viglen>  i did so, now when i try to boot, gives me ntdlr missing
[11:10] <Viglen> then boots into windows
[11:13] <asfalt> viglen is your bios selecting which drive boots 1st?
[11:13] <adamonline45> Hah, I'm having grub issues too... =/  is it true that GRUB, being a bootloader, doesn't get replaced during a reformat?
[11:13] <adamonline45> er, wiped*?
[11:13] <asfalt> depends how you "reformat"
[11:13] <bill> hello
[11:14] <asfalt> if you are just removing/adding partitions then the mbr will not get touched unless you specify in fdisk
[11:14] <Iphigenia> Hi! #Xubuntu is alseep so can I ask a quick question here:  I have just upgraded to Xubuntu Edgy. Great success but 3 packages have been held back. See: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2731/ . Any ideas?
[11:14] <adamonline45> asfalt: hmmm... Do you happen to know if netBSD uses GRUB?  If so, that would explain a lot... I basically installed ubuntu over an old bsd install that never materialised
[11:15] <Jowi> adamonline45, if installed on the MBR it will not be wiped. The MBR is always overwritten. If you install windows it will overwrite the MBR with a bootloader for windows. if you install Linux it will be overwritten with GRUB. if you installed GRUB on a bootpartition then formatting that partition gets rid of it.
[11:15] <asfalt> that's very well summarised
[11:15] <johns^> windows 2000 leaves grub untouched, even when formatting
[11:16] <johns^> formatting 'C:' doesn't get rid of a grub or lilo bootloader
[11:16] <asfalt> but this is all variable depending on your disk/partition arrangement
[11:16] <cntb> kxkb is on dapper what is on edgy ?/help
[11:16] <SzArAk> johns^: but win2k installer does overwrites grub
[11:17] <johns^> SzArAk: I have never seen that happen
[11:17] <asfalt> cntb no idea but try google/sudo apt-cache search kxkb
[11:17] <adamonline45> Jowi: wait, if installed on the MBR it will not be wiped, but the next line says the MBR is always overwritten?  Do you mean that if I simply reformat a HD, it won't be erased, but if I install a new OS, it will be... ?
[11:17] <asfalt> or which kxkb
[11:17] <NthDegree> johns^, it overwrites during the unconditional format during the install process
[11:17] <SzArAk> johns^: i've been using it for quite long time and always had to restore linux bootloader
[11:17] <Jowi> adamonline45, that is correct.
[11:18] <mneptok> johns^: but the end of any Widows install process writes the mbr
[11:18] <cntb> k asfalt tyvm
[11:18] <asfalt> adamonline45 the bootmgr grub can be written to two places, the MBR or the superblock of the drive
[11:18] <Jowi> adamonline45, the MBR is not a part of any partition. so formatting it will not affect it.
[11:18] <asfalt> or it can be written to the 1st 1024 sectors of the boot partition
[11:18] <adamonline45> Jowi: What happens if GRUB was already installed, and I install another OS that uses GRUB?  Will it be changed?  Will some settings not change okay?
[11:18] <mneptok> johns^: the formatting of partitions does not touch the MBR, but the installer definitely does.
[11:19] <asfalt> windows installation will by default write the superblock of the drive, therefore overwriting any other boot managers already there
[11:19] <johns^> mneptok: as I said, I never saw a windows 2000 install that removed grub
[11:19] <Viglen> i only have 1 drive
[11:19] <johns^> XP and 98 and ME wipe the MBR
[11:19] <asfalt> and if you let your windows manage the booting, then it gets cumbersome you have to update the bootsector file from your linux partition where it is installed
[11:19] <Jowi> adamonline45, if you install another os that uses grub and you chose at install time to not re-install grub from that distro then the old grub will still be intact (but will probably not be able to boot your new system if your partition layout and kernel values have changed)
[11:20] <asfalt> if you just google on linux and dual boot it will explain a lot better then i am
[11:20] <Viglen> nope
[11:20] <Viglen> not working
[11:20] <Viglen> lol
[11:20] <Viglen> look
[11:20] <Viglen> i had linux on a hd
[11:20] <Viglen> fresh install
[11:20] <Viglen> nothing else
[11:20] <Viglen> then i installed windows from a cd
[11:20] <Viglen> removed the bootloader
[11:20] <asfalt> Viglen so the drive had unused space?
[11:20] <Viglen> now i have them both installed
[11:20] <Viglen> yeah
[11:21] <Viglen> but only windows in the boot
[11:21] <Wild_Cat> what program do you guys use to erase DVD-RW discs?
[11:21] <mneptok> !enter | Viglen
[11:21] <ubotu> Viglen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:21] <asfalt> so Viglen did your replace ntloader with grub
[11:21] <Viglen> okay :)
[11:21] <Jowi> adamonline45, for example, you can install ubuntu on partition 1 and have its grub. then you install slackware on partition 2 but do not install grub from its CD. instead you tell the grub that you use with ubuntu to boot slackware for you.
[11:22] <Viglen> so?
[11:22] <adamonline45> Jowi: Okay, I think that's my problem then...  I didn't get to choose though! =O  hehheh...  Do you happen to know if netBSD uses GRUB? That's what used to be on the hard drive in question...
[11:22] <OrT> Anyone a suggestion how to forward ports locally (let another port forward to default ssh)?
[11:22] <neocortex> hello, is anyone willing to help a newbie with crashes of evolution?
[11:22] <Jowi> adamonline45, if you *do* install grub on that second linux installation then you must alter it in order for it to be able to boot your fist linux installation.
[11:22] <Viglen> okay, anythink?
[11:22] <asfalt> adamonline45 why don't you wipe the partition and start afresh that way you know there is no boot manager installed in it
[11:23] <Viglen> thing*
[11:23] <gb_> hiya
[11:23] <Jowi> adamonline45, which OS can you boot with grub now?
[11:23] <gb_> gnomefreak: hiya
[11:23] <adamonline45> Jowi: None, it just hangs at "grub" with a blinking cursor
[11:23] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:23] <tbf> how do I get git-svn (not git-svnimport) for edgy?
[11:23] <asfalt> netbsd may use lilo?
[11:24] <asfalt> nfi, either way you can replace it either way
[11:24] <adamonline45> Jowi: I was hoping that my install would eliminate any traces or netbsd...
[11:24] <Viglen> mneptok, help?
[11:24] <gb_> asfalt: does'nt bsd have its own boot loader?
[11:24] <adamonline45> asfalt: that answers one of my earlier Qs ty =)
[11:24] <joekilner> for those I was talking to earlier: sorted the problem - tidied up my sources file and made them all point to gb.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com, so it looks like something has gone wrong on the server (or they fixed it while I was editing my sources list!) either way, it's OK now.
[11:24] <Kyl1> Aha!
[11:25] <gb_> tbf:  chk packages.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <asfalt> adamonline45 lilo is another boot manager it likewise can be installed either to the drive or beginning of a boot partition
[11:25] <Kyl1> So, I heard some rumors of it being possible to install Windows programs on a linux machine. This true?
[11:25] <asfalt> grub is superior imo
[11:25] <gb_> Kyl1: yes
[11:25] <adamonline45> !wine | Kyl1
[11:25] <ubotu> Kyl1: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:25] <asfalt> but lilo works fine just the same
[11:25] <Kyl1> Right.
[11:25] <tbf> gb_: well, there is git-svn 1.4.1, but I'd need git-svn 1.4.4
[11:25] <adamonline45> Kyl1: there are others, tho, too, iirc
[11:26] <Kyl1> Where would you install it though?
[11:26] <Jowi> !grub | adamonline45, read this (1.2 should work if not go with 3.2 (manual configuration of grub))
[11:26] <ubotu> adamonline45, read this (1.2 should work if not go with 3.2 (manual configuration of grub)): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:26] <Kyl1> Because Of course, windows uses the whole C:\ format
[11:26] <gb_> Kyl1:  umm, on linux :)
[11:26] <adamonline45> asfalt: alright, thanks
[11:26] <Kyl1> Whilst, linux uses,  just the / format
[11:26] <Kyl1> Right?
[11:26] <gb_> tbf:  chk the site, look for the packages under egdy
[11:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Kyl1: wine takes care of that.
[11:27] <Kyl1> Hmph
[11:27] <Kyl1> I oughta try then...
[11:27] <Kyl1> Anyone ever played Delta Force 2?
[11:27] <gb_> Kyl1:  right / is called the root partition
[11:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Kyl1: But don't be too optimistic about wine.  Some programs work fine, but many others don't.
[11:28] <gb_> yes i have played delta force
[11:28] <Kyl1> :D
[11:28] <Kyl1> Delta force rules.
[11:28] <Kyl1> Alright, that's all I was wonderin'. Sorry to waste space on jibberish.
[11:28] <adamonline45> Jowi: Alright, i've loaded ubotu's link, I'll read it come morning.  I'm tired! hehheh...  Thanks for your help.  Do you think if that's where it's hanging, that a manual poking around in the grub confs, etc, could solve something?
[11:28] <tbf> gb_: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=git-svn
[11:28] <tbf> gb_: yields nothing new
[11:29] <joekilner> And is it possible that viglen has got grub in the MBS but removed the grub stuff of his harddrive? the command you ran off the install CD would reinstall the MBS but would not add stuff to your harddrive - you need to mount your HD and then run dpkg -install --root /mnt/myHD or something a bit like that...
[11:29] <adamonline45> Jowi: Oh well, I'm passing out =)  Good night everyone! thanks!
[11:30] <gb_> yep see 1.4.1 there
[11:30] <Kyl1> Night
[11:30] <joekilner> Ah well, he obviously doesn't want to know ;) see you later
[11:30] <Kyl1> mmhmm
[11:30] <Kyl1> Obviously.
[11:30] <Jowi> adamonline45, I think it's a combination of a faulty config and that you also have to re-install grub manually.
[11:30] <Kyl1> Any information that would benefit me?
[11:30] <Jowi> night adamonline45
[11:30] <tbf> gb_: hmmm.... could try to get the source package from feisty and see if I get it build for edgy?
[11:30] <gb_> tbf:  worth a shot
[11:31] <Jowi> adamonline45, that first link ubotu gave you should help alot
[11:31] <adamonline45> Jowi, alright, thanks.  Even though I didn't install Windows? I'll certainly check it out...  Thanks again!
[11:32] <dromer> !xming
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <mustaukko> Seems that you people are busy with MBR's. Can I get illumination over issues with DRI in here?
[11:32] <gb_> gnomefreak:  ty got the usplash thing yesterday :)
[11:34] <Jowi> adamonline45, the procedure is the same
[11:35] <Jowi> !ask | mustaukko
[11:35] <ubotu> mustaukko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:35] <daviey> Hi, i have a proble.  On reboot fsck found some problems.  I repaired these using fsck.  Now i get an error "Failed to start X server.....".  How can i repair?  Thanx
[11:36] <daviey> anybody!?
[11:37] <Jowi> daviey, what is the error in the log?
[11:37] <daviey> Jowi: give me a min,  i'll have to mount the fs
[11:38] <mustaukko> :) Ok. So, I'm stuck after some update over a week ago. I updated compiz (0.3.6) along side with a lot of stuff, and DRI broke (I suspect xorgserver-core, there was some forum discussion on that). I've tried to get things going again on aixgl (since it's now the current 'plain' installation) but I seem to be unable to.
[11:39] <wolfwalker> Say, this may seem like an odd place to ask a question about Winblows, but I'm having trouble running my Ubuntu cd. See, I have very little ram and Ubuntu needs to write some swap space, but the Winblows files are scattered all over the disk. Is there any way to compact those files to one side of the disk?
[11:39] <mustaukko> My installation uses nvidia, my driver is 9746, which I believe to be the latest.
[11:40] <mustaukko> according to glxinfo I do not have dri, but it shows nvidia as the client renderer in the vendor strings. server vendor is sgi.
[11:40] <pwuertz_> c++
[11:40] <daviey> Jowi: tail of Xorg.0.log "failed to initialize core devices"
[11:40] <gnomefreak> wolfwalker: you should defrag before installing ubuntu
[11:40] <Jowi> daviey, which core device?
[11:40] <caci> mustaukko: the nvidia binary driver does not do DRI
[11:41] <daviey> "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory@
[11:41] <daviey> "No core pointer"
[11:41] <Jowi> daviey, do you have a wacom board (virtual sketchpad)?
[11:41] <daviey> Jowi: no
[11:42] <Jowi> daviey, seems like you're missing some drivers.
[11:42] <daviey> Jowi: fsck did 'repair' alot!
[11:42] <SHRIKEE> http://digg.com/tech_news/The_mysterious_shrinking_Google_Pagerank
[11:43] <wolfwalker> |gnomefreak:| I did defrag, but it only defragged the files that were fragmented. It flat refuses to get them all on one side of the disk.
[11:43] <tk__> Hello
[11:43] <Jowi> daviey, so you are using xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-air-core now?
[11:43] <Ha1> Hello guys
[11:43] <daviey> Jowi: currently i'm in livecd with the rootfs mounted.
[11:43] <wolfwalker> |gnomefreak:| Mind you, I was using the Winblows defragger. Is there a better one?
[11:43] <Ha1> I am having a bit of a graphics issue. All of my games run slowly. I tried OpenArena,. and its laggy. Even SuperTux is slow.
[11:43] <daviey> Jowi: i believe straight xserver-xorg
[11:43] <Ha1> I think Iam using a dodgy renderer
[11:43] <gnomefreak> no that is the one to use
[11:44] <Ha1> Because when I activated it using the console, it gave me an odd error message
[11:44] <wolfwalker> Then how do I get it to shift all the files to one side of the disk?
[11:44] <Ha1> About my GL renderer failing or similar
[11:44] <mustaukko> so I'm using also the dri, dbe and glx also. Those I believe to be responsible ones in the xorg.conf. is that correct?
[11:44] <Ha1> Any ideas, guys?
[11:44] <Jowi> daviey, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:44] <Ha1> Specifically, how do I get the latest drivers/renderer for my nVidia GeForce 6600
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> !nvidia
[11:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:45] <daviey> Jowi: i'm on the livecd though.  I can't get a terminal through real boot
[11:45] <clever_> which package is /usr/bin/mail in?
[11:45] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: this may help, i'm in the same position as you, having to defrag and consolidate freespace, i download a application called "perfect disk 8" that did that - it defragged and can also be set to move everything to the start of the drive
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> !mail
[11:45] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <Ha1> Thanks SHRIKEEE
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> hm
[11:45] <wolfwalker> :) Thanks
[11:46] <Jowi> daviey, you should be able to boot into console since you get as far as to get xorg failures
[11:46] <clever_> SHRIKEE: i have the text based mail reader on an older ubuntu install but its missing on my new install
[11:46] <caci> mustaukko: please put a name in front of your messages otherwise nobody will know who you're talking to :-)
[11:46] <wolfwalker> Wait, did he say he's running off the live cd? Can you run off the cd and still use the internet?
[11:46] <caci> wolfwalker: why not?
[11:46] <clever_> wolfwalker: ive ran off the livecd and built my own wifi card drivers
[11:46] <mustaukko> caci: Well I was more like refererring the whole room.. But yeah, sure.
[11:47] <daviey> Jowi: How?  Ctrl+Alt+F3 won't do anything.  The whole machine is crashed.  How can i get interupt the boot?
[11:47] <mustaukko> caci: So, what would you suggest I try next?
[11:47] <wolfwalker> Neato
[11:47] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: i've done the defrag & compact to consolidate the free space, but i haven't repartitioned the drive yet, so i don't know if there's any problems that might come from that
[11:47] <Ha1> Ok, now, trying to the the latest NVidia drivers
[11:47] <tk__> Hello, I have a Problem with the new xfce4 and samba shares . can anyone tell me wich good smb client i can get for xfce4 ? i have installed smbclient and xffm-samba but when i connect to a remoteshare i can only listen the remote directory ... copy from or to it is not possible...also drag&drop is not possible ?
[11:47] <caci> mustaukko: try stating the problem... what does not work
[11:47] <Jowi> daviey, boot into rescue/recovery mode
[11:47] <Ha1> How do I know if my computer has hardware accelerated 3D support??
[11:47] <wolfwalker> Forget repartitioning, as soon as I get the Ubuntu cd running I'll use GParted
[11:47] <caci> mustaukko: compiz?
[11:47] <wolfwalker> I LIKE that partitioner!
[11:48] <Jowi> daviey, you should have that option in the boot menu
[11:48] <mustaukko> caci: Compiz. That's the thing that bugs me, but I think my setup is wrong so that my 3d card features don't get to it.
[11:48] <clever_> j #debian
[11:48] <clever_> ops
[11:48] <wolfwalker> Forget perfectdisk 8, it's payware
[11:48] <mustaukko> caci: Yeah, I'm getting the white-cube. I've went through the forums and lists, but no help there.
[11:48] <Ha1> How do I know if my computer has hardware accelerated 3D support?? [Trying to get lates nVidia driver] 
[11:48] <daviey> Jowi: is that a grub option?
[11:48] <Jowi> yes daviey
[11:49] <daviey> Jowi: thanks
[11:49] <daviey> Jowi: brb
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: sorry, no idea about compiz :-(  but nvidia installs not supporting DRI is normal
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: Their problems seem to be different as the fixes have not helped me.
[11:49] <Jowi> daviey, you should have "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu (rescue)" to chose from
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: no idea if compiz actually needs DRI, i suppose not
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: what about the glxgears? should that not be blazing?
[11:49] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: i know, but there's a 30 day trial thats free, i was only using it for a one off so after the 30 days are up, i'll be deleting it anyway
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: it should
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: I'm not getting acceleration, that's the problem.
[11:50] <aldi1> YoshiG3:
[11:50] <mustaukko> caci: and (yeah, it should) it seems that what ever my card supports as acceleration is not being used at all.
[11:50] <webmad> register
[11:51] <aldi1> YoshiG3: are u here
[11:51] <caci> mustaukko: the "nvidia" driver in X.org and nvidias copyrights in the glxinfo strings and still no accell=
[11:51] <caci> ?
[11:51] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: get your modem to work?
[11:51] <mustaukko> caci: so.. I've never received an error like this. Have you heard of anything similar?
[11:52] <mustaukko> caci: glxinfo |grep vendor gives me
[11:52] <mustaukko> server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:52] <mustaukko> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:52] <mustaukko> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:52] <mick666> www.freepenguin.135.it
[11:52] <mustaukko> caci: and in xorg.conf, in the device I'm using I've got nvidia as the driver, not the opensource-nv
[11:53] <caci> mustaukko: and your glxgears don't compare to that what the card should be able to do
[11:53] <Jowi> mustaukko, you have a Section "DRI" in xorg.conf?
[11:53] <mustaukko> caci: I'm using 24 bitdepth and all that...
[11:53] <caci> mustaukko: stuff like gl screensavers is sluggish?
[11:53] <olof> is it possible to change between my normal speakers and my usb-headset speakers while some application is using the soundcard? (using ubuntu, gnome)
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: Well yeah, I tried the dri with aixgl, as it was stated in the wiki, but I've tried it without as was stated in compiz...
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: yeah those are sluggish.
[11:54] <chrissturm> will there be official backports of apache 2.2? or is there a place to request a backport?
[11:54] <caci> mustaukko: ok that's odd. i'm not aware of softwre rendering in the nvidia GL lib
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: I'm not getting the good'ol fps from glxgears, so I can not say exactly, but when i resize it take seconds for it to draw.
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Thank you folks
[11:55] <AlexC_> sorry, not really Ubuntu related - but does Fedora have an irc channel??
[11:55] <mustaukko> caci: could it be something like different version of kernel and glx packages?
[11:55] <AlexC_> nevermind, I found out - you have to identify to join :P
[11:55] <caci> mustaukko: nvidia-glx and kernel module versions match?
[11:56] <mustaukko> caci: is there a simple way of finding that out... I'll run some apt-cache policies, that should clear it out right?
[11:56] <caci> mustaukko: in my experience, a version mismatch bombs out earlier, X won't even come up
[11:56] <caci> mustaukko: you got the plain drivers from edgy?
[11:57] <mustaukko> caci:  *** 1.0.9746+2.6.17.9-1 0 installed for both of them
[11:57] <YoshiG3> aldi1 hey
[11:57] <aldi1> YoshiG3: got ya on private
[11:57] <mustaukko> caci: no. Not at the moment. I've tried a lot of things. lastly envy, to get things working.
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: it seems that official version drags in 8776
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: that's a long way
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: do you think that that'd be the problem?
[11:58] <robbo> Hello,can you help me how can i play game NEXUIZ online?...
[11:59] <mustaukko> caci: so I should remove nvidia 9746 and install the older one? ... I think these beta drivers were put out for a reason
[11:59] <mustaukko> caci: but then... there is a reason why they are beta. :)
[12:00] <olof> is it possible to change sound output device from my speakers to my usb headset while the soundcard is in use?
[12:00] <daviey> Jowi: i'm back.  Seems i cannot even do that, as the driver for the keyboard doesn't get loaded!!
[12:01] <yrjo> olof:why not?
[12:02] <WebDesigner> hi
[12:02] <WebDesigner> i got problem with my ubuntu 6.10 in amd64
[12:02] <nysosym> what do u think about these concept
[12:02] <nysosym> http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newfilecopydialog7rv.png
[12:02] <WebDesigner> seems the php5-cli + openssl (bugs?) didnt working and make the infinite loop
[12:02] <olof> yrjo: i don't know how. the only way i know is to change in asoundrc file but that isn't reloaded untill my applications are restarted
[12:03] <WebDesigner> has anyone got experiences with this problem?
[12:03] <yrjo> you can restart alsa
[12:03] <Jowi> daviey, that's seriously messed up (that HDD must have fallen from the 7th floor or something). I would recommend a re-install.
[12:03] <FelipeBare> nysosym, it's good.
[12:04] <daviey> Jowi: not 7th floor.. Try the MRS unplugging it without shutting down
[12:04] <yrjo> i would reconfigure .asoundrc too for that
[12:04] <kaptengu> how to I configure mysql to accept connections from outside?
[12:04] <WebDesigner> anyone with ubuntu 6.10 in amd64 machine?
[12:04] <nysosym> Felipe any additions ?
[12:04] <Jowi> daviey, ouch. hope you have /home on a seperate (working) partition
[12:04] <sleeping> this nick sucks
[12:04] <daviey> Jowi: nope
[12:05] <yrjo> or use alsaconf
[12:05] <Loevborg> What's the official way to configure compiz? (I'm using feisty's desktop-effects)
[12:05] <MonkeyINAbaG> especially if you have a lil alarm go off when someone says your nick
[12:05] <FelipeBare> nysosym, I don't think so. It's simple and beatiful. :)
[12:05] <WebDesigner> :(
[12:05] <daviey> Loevborg: why use compiz and not beryl?
[12:05] <MonkeyINAbaG> its amazing how many people say 'sleeping'
[12:06] <conic> is beryl better ?
[12:06] <conic> ive never tried compiz
[12:06] <Jowi> daviey, well, If I were you I would reinstall the full system. 6-8GB for / and a separate /home. you might be able to save some personal stuff if you mount it from the live-cd and burn it to a CDRW or something.
[12:06] <sikumkum> has anyone experiencing the php-cli bug with amd64?
[12:06] <abcv> hola
[12:06] <Loevborg> daviey: it's supported, works out of the box in feisty
[12:06] <caci> mustaukko: sorry was away
[12:07] <olof> yrjo: tried (with /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart), but my .asoundrc didn't reload
[12:07] <mustaukko> caci: np.
[12:07] <yrjo> hmm
[12:08] <sikumkum> anyone with ubuntu 6.10 edgy in amd64 machine?
[12:09] <yrjo> have you tried alsaconf?
[12:09] <mustaukko> caci: so do you need a recap or does scrolling suffice? :)
[12:09] <yrjo> that restarts alsa
[12:10] <caci> recap please :-)
[12:10] <daviey> Jowi: i'm repartitioning the disk to make a seperate /home
[12:10] <caci> mustaukko: where did you get that updated driver from
[12:10] <sikumkum> :(
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: ok, so I do not have current drivers, I have nvidias latest ones. I used envy to get them.
[12:11] <sikumkum> why one answering my question
[12:11] <olof> yrjo: i'll check it out.
[12:11] <sikumkum> help please
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: also I've tried alfredomiliones repositories.
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: but this is after it broke.
[12:12] <caci> is there a reason why you need the most current ones (such as a brand-new accell card)?
[12:12] <mustaukko> caci: no. I just tried to get it fixed.
[12:12] <Gosha> !login
[12:12] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[12:12] <Gosha> !login screen
[12:13] <mustaukko> caci: no need to have the latest. I'm running 6600, which is not be any means brand new.
[12:13] <YoshiG3> how do I uninstall graphics drivers?
[12:13] <YoshiG3> And has anyone installed ATI drivers with a Radeon 9000 before?
[12:13] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: apt-get remove does the trick, which driver are we talking about?
[12:13] <gebruiker> how do I make rle to pcx?
[12:14] <caci> mustaukko: i'd stick with the offical repos here
[12:14] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: well, when I run glxgears -printfps, it freezes.
[12:14] <caci> mustaukko: or compile my own
[12:14] <mustaukko> caci: so.. I'll try that.
[12:15] <caci> mustaukko: cause the kernel updates a lot in ubuntu
[12:15] <mustaukko> caci: I mean the official ones. I moved from gentoo, to get rid of that compiling thing.
[12:15] <YoshiG3> and ideas?
[12:15] <Wrongway> hey all.... I'm having a little trouble mounting a drive..... anyone available?
[12:15] <caci> mustaukko: :-)
[12:15] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:so.. you ahve which card?
[12:15] <christopherl> hello all, someone know if there are any website providing both email and file storage?
[12:16] <caci> mustaukko: also make sure "nvidia" kernel module actually loads, and carefully read whatever xorg.log says about the kernel module
[12:16] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: Radeon 9000
[12:16] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: and the official pages for help did you no good?
[12:16] <YoshiG3> nope
[12:16] <caci> mustaukko: sorry i can't help you more
[12:17] <caci> mustaukko: good luck
[12:17] <YoshiG3> At first I installed the drivers normally, and it caused xorg to be so messed up, that I had to redo it, my monitor would go into standby mode
[12:17] <mustaukko> caci: I'll be back it does not solve itself. :)
[12:17] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - sudo mount -t filesystem /device /mountpoint
[12:17] <david__> YoshiG3 I have a Radeon R250 (9000 engine) and I'm not using it because it hangs my laptop using suspend / hibernate
[12:17] <xzk> anybody awake ?
[12:18] <Wrongway> Rookie-1 I've had it mounted, and now I'm trying to unmount it following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-a37a1b8aefbfb58f198d678a1d97e70ef26a044c
[12:18] <YoshiG3> well, the computer is still working
[12:18] <Wrongway> but I get an unmount error
[12:18] <YoshiG3> it's just that xorg doesn't load or something really crazy
[12:18] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: That website contains all the info, first off.. installing the driver.
[12:19] <Rookie-1> Wrongway to umount just type sudo umount /mointpoint
[12:19] <xzk> I'm trying to burn an ISO image file, but before I do it and waste a CD I want to ask if I can just burn it or do I have to have a cd creator that will let me burn image files... bc Ive run into that problem in winXP before. where burning data and music isnt the same as burning the iso and bin/cue files to a CD
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: then configuring it.
[12:19] <beniamino> ubuntu isn't noticing when i plug new devices into the USB ports. is there a way to force it to rescan the USB bus?
[12:19] <YoshiG3> doesn't support Radeon 9000
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:  Ok, have you tried the radeon driver?
[12:19] <Wrongway> errr, no. it unmounts, then when I try to remount it using sudo ntfsmount /dev/hdb1 /media/storage -o umask=0007 it gives me an error of:
[12:20] <frogzoo> xzk: if you just right click the iso, you can select burn image, however k3b is the ultimate burning tool
[12:20] <Wrongway> Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1': Operation not supported
[12:20] <Wrongway> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again.
[12:20] <Wrongway> Mount failed.
[12:20] <mosh> what is the name of the popular "ps" alternative?
[12:20] <YoshiG3> mustaukko no, not yet
[12:20] <xzk> frogzoo: ty! so in linux it will automatically know to burn it as an image file?
[12:20] <klm-> mosh: Gimp?
[12:20] <frogzoo> xzk: yup
[12:20] <Wrongway> the other drive was used as a spare drive for windows, but I no longer have windows to boot from
[12:21] <xzk> frogzoo: in winXP I have burned ISO files before.. and it didnt work correctly bc I had to have a program that would burn iso files
[12:21] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - forgot the filesystem ? sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/storage (should be enough anyway)
[12:21] <mosh> insted of ps -a there is a more detailed version i forget what it is called
[12:21] <mosh> or ps aux
[12:21] <mosh> it also lists processes
[12:21] <frogzoo> xzk: right click iso - burn image
[12:21] <xzk> frogzoo: where can I find k3b
[12:22] <frogzoo> xzk: repos
[12:22] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - but i dont mount up ntfs, only tempting to write on that one ;) and it will only end up with a mess ;(
[12:22] <Wrongway> I'm not entirely sure, but I think that's the command I used when I originally mounted the drive. the problem I had before is it wouldn't give me write access
[12:22] <david__> mosh: top?
[12:22] <kleinlappies> hello, how does one uninstall xgl? i installed it following the wiki instructions +- 2 months ago.
[12:23] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - you need a thierdparty prog to write to an ntfs partition
[12:23] <oxigen> what to install to monitor cpu temperature on my intel dual? is it possible?
[12:23] <Rookie-1> !ntfs
[12:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:23] <Rookie-1> !ntfs-3g
[12:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:23] <Gosha> !dekstop
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dekstop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <EnsignRedshirt> mosh: System -> Administration -> System Monitor  ? ;)
[12:23] <Gosha> !desktop
[12:23] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Well, what do you know.. I found a website containing info on the matter..
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: glxgears and fgl_glxgears may hang on radeom 9000
[12:24] <Gosha> where should i put gnome .desktop files?
[12:24] <Rookie-1> !fuse
[12:24] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:24] <frogzoo> hmmm... that so needs beryl added to the list....
[12:24] <Gosha> !gdm
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: To correct this issue, download and install the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver 8.10.19 or higher.
[12:24] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: so which version do you have?
[12:25] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: well, I downloaded the driver, and it's a .run, and gedit is trying to open it
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: It seems that it should be supported.
[12:25] <YoshiG3> it's not running
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:  ok, do you know how to use the prompt?
[12:25] <Wrongway> alrighty, I'll check those out. thanks Rookie-1
[12:25] <YoshiG3> explain
[12:25] <EnsignRedshirt> ...speaking of System Monitor, what does "MiB" stand for? There is no i in megabytes...?
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Or right click the file, choose properties
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: you have to se the file type to executable.
[12:26] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - if you really need to write between windows and linux, use fat32 instead
[12:26] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Or better yet, follow these: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[12:26] <mosh> david__: ty, top is what i was looking for
[12:26] <aeon17x> How do I format a USB drive in Ubuntu?
[12:26] <YoshiG3> nothing happened when I told it to run
[12:27] <Wrongway> I don't want to partition stuff though
[12:27] <YoshiG3> yeah, that guide is for Radeon 9500+
[12:27] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: ok, let's follow the instructions on the website.
[12:28] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: (II) ATI Radeon/FireGL: The following chipsets are supported:
[12:28] <mustaukko> 	RADEON 9000/9000 PRO (RV250 4966), RADEON 9000 LE
[12:28] <david__> aeon17x: sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1, with sda1 the right (unmounted) device.
[12:29] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: It's worth a try. It won't kill you to try it out.
[12:29] <aeon17x> thanks david__, I'll try that
[12:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Nevermind... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[12:29] <olof> yrjo: alsaconf didn't change the output neither. my problem is that i like to change the output device while the sound is playing. but alsa doesn't doesn't seem to want that. i can perfeclty well change it when there is no app using the sound.
[12:29] <david__> aeon17x check that you're not having any scsi or sata drive!
[12:30] <aeon17x> It's just a normal flash drive.
[12:30] <david__> just speaking about your hard drive: it can also be sdaXX
[12:31] <YoshiG3> mustaukko, where is that?
[12:31] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Where's what?
[12:31] <frennkie> Hello, does anybody know how likely it is that there will be a backport of libc6-xen for Dapper Drake LTS (6.06) (see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/50331/+viewstatus)
[12:32] <david__> when connecting your usb, open a terminal and type dmesg: you will get the device like  "sda: sda1"
[12:32] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: I'm probably going to leave for a few seconds in a bit.
[12:33] <olof> anyone know how to change the sound output device from my speakers to my usb headset while some program uses the soundcard? (changing the .asoundrc but it won't reload untill i restart the sound programs)
[12:34] <darek> cze
[12:34] <YoshiG3> I'm getting an error running the proprietary driver
[12:34] <YoshiG3> "Bad Substitution"
[12:35] <sikumkum> gawd
[12:36] <Vigo> Source code for the BT router can be read now.
[12:36] <Instabin> Ubuntu is the best os i have ever had. Now if i can figure out how to implement it at work
[12:36] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks
[12:36] <jesusm> #linares
[12:37] <jesusm> como busco un canal...
[12:37] <jesusm> ???
[12:37] <Rookie-1> what language jesusm ?
[12:37] <Vigo> Instabin: I got a die hard wind$ws user on Dapper now,.
[12:37] <jesusm> espaol...
[12:38] <Rookie-1> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:38] <Rookie-1> ;)
[12:38] <YoshiG3> Wow, I can't even get the ati installer to run correctly
[12:38] <CodeWarrior_> I have a GPU Voodoo 4 4500 PCI (3dfx), when the ubuntu (dapper) starts it shows me just in 640x480 mode, although in xorg.conf it has detected another resolutions, how can I put more resolution on my screen ? is there anybody with same GPU card ?
[12:38] <david__> Rookie-1 how do u get the list of available commands?
[12:38] <Vigo> YoshiG3: Did you xorg config it?
[12:39] <david__> !info
[12:39] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[12:39] <sikumkum> anyone know how to fix the openssl amd64bit with php-cli (stream_select) problemm ?
[12:40] <YoshiG3> Vigo: Config the installer?
[12:40] <frogzoo> !docs | david__
[12:40] <ubotu> david__: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[12:40] <Rookie-1> david__ - just ask ubotu
[12:40] <Vigo> CodeWarrior: at the Forums page is a detailed and possible solution for you also, I did the xorg thing to get an Xpress200 series to work.
[12:40] <YoshiG3> it's saying "Syntax Error: Bad Substitution"
[12:40] <frogzoo> david__: also, ls /usr/bin/, ls /bin, ls /sbin
[12:40] <david__> thx ;-)
[12:41] <maddogPT> hi all
[12:41] <Vigo> YoshiG3: let me try and find it for you
[12:41] <CodeWarrior_> Vigo: what driver is Xpress200 ?
[12:42] <maddogPT> i'm with some trouble installing linux, could some1 help me? I would much appreciate
[12:42] <maddogPT> ubuntu doesnt recognize my raid0
[12:42] <maddogPT> :(
[12:43] <mneptok> maddogPT: if your RAID chipset has no Linux drivers then that's wha'ppens.
[12:43] <maddogPT> it's intel ICHR8
[12:44] <christopherl> what's the name of the package providing time and date?
[12:44] <Vigo> CoideWarrior: The Xpress200 series is an onboard ATI driver that 'was' locked into XP only, it is now OpenSource.
[12:44] <YoshiG3> Vigo: Basically I'm saying the installer won't run, and I'm following the instructions on the website
[12:45] <mneptok> maddogPT: so Google that and see if RAID0 support for that chipset is in the Linux kernel.
[12:45] <CodeWarrior_> Vigo: ok, friend I will try and see at ubuntu forums too, thanks for the tip :-)
[12:45] <Vigo> YoshiG3: You may have to uninstall the old repositories to get the correct ones to function
[12:45] <david__> christopherl: coreutils: /bin/date
[12:46] <YoshiG3> Vigo: how would I do that?
[12:46] <christopherl> thanks
[12:46] <david__> time: /usr/bin/time
[12:46] <david__> first, look for the path with "which date"
[12:46] <david__> then "dpkg -S full_path"
[12:47] <arvinoids> !seen arvinoids
[12:47] <khoa> arvinoids n=CHUBBYch@203.177.160.170 was last seen Wed Jan 24 06:44:28 2007 joining #ubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> arvinoids is on IRC right now!
[12:48] <sikumkum> gosh..
[12:48] <sikumkum> no one answering my question
[12:48] <sikumkum> its been 2 weeks
[12:48] <christopherl> david__: when I open time-admin it crashes, tips?
[12:49] <Libere> Trying to install alsa driver 1.0.13rc3 on 2.6, and I get an error in the configuration log that says: configure:1635: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:49] <frootstripe> !extended
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extended - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <hamre_> hey
[12:50] <hamre_> got a newbie question
[12:50] <hamre_> does ubuntu have a package system?
[12:50] <hamre_> i need to install ubuntu to use aircrack-ng and madwifi
[12:50] <hamre_> how do i get those onto my system without compiling them manually
[12:50] <david__> christopherl I'm not using gnome! if you want to change the date, you can always use "sudo date -s MMDDhhmm"
[12:50] <Vigo_> hamre_ yes try the Synaptic Package Manager
[12:50] <mjr> I think madwifi is actually installed by default, but if it isn't, linux-restricted-modules-yourversion
[12:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Libere: Do you have build-essential installed?  e.g.: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:51] <olof> is it possible to force a program to reload .asoundrc while running?
[12:51] <christopherl> ok thanks
[12:51] <hamre_> Vigo_: how do i run it?
[12:51] <skirk_> ciao
[12:51] <skirk_> :D
[12:51] <skirk_> exit
[12:51] <skirk_> quit
[12:51] <linuxero_> enverex!
[12:52] <Vigo_> hamre_ : Synaptic is the package manager for Ubuntu
[12:52] <Vigo_> !synaptic
[12:52] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:52] <hamre_> but it's graphical
[12:52] <hamre_> i need something for the console
[12:52] <Libere> Apparently not...getting it now.
[12:52] <hamre_> no x
[12:52] <HymnToLife> !apt | hamre_
[12:52] <ubotu> hamre_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:52] <Viglen> hey
[12:52] <Vigo_> hamre_: Oh ok,
[12:53] <Viglen> when i try copying something from my fat32 mounted partition
[12:53] <Viglen> it dfoest work
[12:53] <Viglen> i have to sudo it
[12:53] <frootstripe> hi all - delete my extended partition and put hda5 as my hda1. is ok if i delete hda5 first (even tho blocks overrun with hda5)
[12:53] <Vigo_> Thank you HymnToLife
[12:54] <Libere> Okay, I have build essential...now do I just try to run the config again?
[12:54] <frootstripe> i mean, by deleting my extended, it's not reallly a "partition", right?
[12:55] <EnsignRedshirt> Libere: Take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[12:56] <hamre_> thanks
[12:57] <Vigo_> I am not feeling good, thank you all and have fun!
[12:57] <wilx|wrk> Hi.
[12:57] <wilx|wrk> Is there a SVN 1.4.x package for Ubuntu?
[12:57] <Libere> Thank you.
[12:58] <wilx|wrk> I don't see any different than 1.3.2 in Synaptic, but I could swear 1.4.x was there last time I checked.
[12:58] <heatxsink> anyone in here know if ubuntu-server's kernel is compiled with ipmi support as a module in the kernel?
[12:59] <EnsignRedshirt> wilx|wrk: In packages.ubuntu.com,. you'll see that feisty has 1.4.2
[01:01] <wilx|wrk> Hmm, and I have Edgy Eft...
[01:01] <wilx|wrk> I thought this was the newest.
[01:01] <EnsignRedshirt> wilx|wrk: It is. feisty is not released yet.
[01:02] <frogzoo> wilx|wrk: edgy is latest release, yes
[01:02] <frennkie> When will the next LTS Version of Ubuntu come? Will Feisty be LTS? thx
[01:02] <matteo> anyone with javaws can test this app with different JREs for me? http://teknoraver.campuslife.it/software/dama.jnlp
[01:02] <HymnToLife> frennkie, if everything goes as planned, the next LTS will be Feisty+1
[01:04] <frennkie> so every third release will be LTS ?
[01:05] <maddogPT> any1 can help, plz ?
[01:05] <maddogPT> ubuntu doesnt recognize my raid0
[01:05] <maddogPT> :(
[01:05] <maddogPT> how to install a dual boot?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: frennkie they've never said that.  no one knows
[01:06] <Hobbsee> !dual boot | maddogPT
[01:06] <ubotu> maddogPT: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:07] <Suavsilk> sup yo
[01:07] <Suavsilk> holdn it down in the linux hizzy
[01:07] <frennkie> HymnToLife,Hobbsee: ok. Thx!
[01:07] <Suavsilk> \X/_(-_-)_\X/
[01:07] <Suavsilk> cya
[01:08] <SkirK> !chan
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <SkirK> !list
[01:08] <SkirK> mmm
[01:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:08] <SkirK> qual il canale per chattare?
[01:08] <SkirK> ubuntu-chat?
[01:09] <HymnToLife> !it | SkirK
[01:09] <ubotu> SkirK: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:09] <frogzoo> !fr | SkirK
[01:09] <ubotu> SkirK: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:09] <goldeagle> hello friends, I'm doing update dapper for edgy, but I have error, http://sial.org/pbot/22600, I need help
[01:10] <SkirK> sorry, i write in wrong CHAN sorry!!!!
[01:10] <maddogPT> !resolution
[01:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:10] <HymnToLife> frogzoo, that was definitely not french
[01:11] <frogzoo> HymnToLife: if you say so
[01:12] <EspenBe_j> do anyone of you know about any kind of software for Linux to create flow-charts?
[01:12] <mjr> EspenBe_j, dia may be workable
[01:13] <Libere> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> EspenBe_j: I haven't used it, but apparently dia has a flowcharts plugin.
[01:13] <EspenBe_j> thanks :) installing now...
[01:15] <Angelus> hi guys, was wondering if someone could answer a silly question
[01:15] <HymnToLife> !ask | Angelus
[01:15] <ubotu> Angelus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <frootstripe> awww - can't somebody answer a one question regarding extended partitions (one i want to delete
[01:16] <frootstripe> plz
[01:16] <Viglen> okay
[01:16] <Angelus> ok, I'm using a program called bluefish, and it needs a browser to preview an xml document. I've only got firefox. It is asking for a command to open firefox, I'm looking for that command :)
[01:16] <Angelus> I hope that makes sense
[01:17] <HymnToLife> Angelus, firefox :)
[01:17] <HymnToLife> frootstripe, just ask your question
[01:18] <Angelus> at the moment i have this "firefox -remote 'openURL(%s, new-window)' || firefox %s&"
[01:18] <Angelus> I copied it from the mozilla one
[01:18] <Angelus> but it's not working
[01:18] <frootstripe> can i delete an extended partition without losing my data on hda5?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> Angelus, try with just firefox
[01:18] <frootstripe> the blocks overlap
[01:18] <frogzoo> frootstripe: try gparted
[01:19] <frogzoo> frootstripe: only you can't delete an extended partition without deleting all the logical partitions inside
[01:19] <Libere> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[01:19] <Libere> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[01:19] <Libere> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[01:19] <r3d|line> hi all
[01:20] <r3d|line> i have aproblem
[01:20] <r3d|line> in ubuntu live cd
[01:20] <Angelus> it didn't work
[01:20] <frootstripe> frogzoo: sure, I have gparted burned, i just want to make sure what i'm doing is right - can i delete the extended, on which hda5 rests, before i delete hda5
[01:20] <shuan> hi
[01:20] <r3d|line> hi
[01:21] <frogzoo> frootstripe: no, you must delete all contained logical partitions before deleting the extended partition
[01:21] <shuan> can someone help me
[01:21] <frootstripe> i actually want to delete everything except hda5
[01:21] <shuan> E: Type O::deb is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:21] <shuan> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:21] <shuan> i keep getting this message
[01:21] <nysosym> what do u think about these new file replace dialog? http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newreplacedialog4tt.png
[01:21] <shuan> anyone able to help
[01:21] <HymnToLife> shuan, synatax error in our sources.list, please pastebin the file
[01:21] <Angelus> anyone have a good program to make GDM's?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> syntax*
[01:21] <r3d|line> i'm waiting for help
[01:21] <khatahn> r3d|line: is this the part where we must ask "what problem?" before you tell us what the problem is? :)
[01:21] <frogzoo> frootstripe: your best off to move the data on hda5 somewhere else
[01:22] <MatthewV> Angelus, try firefox %s
[01:22] <frogzoo> r3d|line: no need for prelims - just state your problem, if one of the 1000 people in chan can help, they will
[01:22] <MatthewV> for your bluefish problem that is
[01:23] <Viglen> does a
[01:23] <r3d|line> khatahn: sorry but i'm not very good in English
[01:24] <r3d|line> OK
[01:24] <Viglen> does anyone know hw to change user privalidges?
[01:24] <Howitzer> Does anyone know if gparted can resize FAT32 partitions WITHOUT destroying the data currently on it? (please only answer if you're 100% sure, really can't afford to lose this data)
[01:24] <Viglen> i cant rename, create, delete anything on a mounted fat32
[01:25] <Howitzer> i mean unmounted :)
[01:25] <Math^> maybe some stupid question, but how can I connect from pc to pc? both have ubuntu 6.10
[01:25] <r3d|line> i have a lock in the partitions
[01:26] <Angelus> anyone have a good program to make GDM's??
[01:26] <Math^> in other words: how do I find my shared folders back?
[01:26] <I-kido> Howitzer with gparted u can.
[01:26] <frootstripe> frogzoo:  ok, could you take a look at my partition table and maybe give me another pointer :>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2739/
[01:26] <vagn> viglin: look at mount options, consider mounting the partition with option user=viglin or whatever
[01:27] <Math^> someone...?
[01:27] <Howitzer> I-kido, thank you :)
[01:27] <I-kido> yw
[01:27] <Viglen> vagn, i dont get what you mean
[01:27] <vagn> man mount
[01:27] <Viglen> i have a user, that i want it to be superuser
[01:27] <Viglen> give it all privalidges
[01:28] <vagn> viglin, don't do that ... instead use su to change to root
[01:28] <Viglen> i cant use sudo whenever i want to copy or do anything
[01:28] <Viglen> i want it graphical
[01:28] <MatthewV> Viglen, make sure that user is a member of the admin group
[01:29] <I-kido> Viglen Ubuntu, gnome?
[01:29] <Viglen> ubuntu
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[01:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:29] <vagn> first, if you mount the fat32 as user=viglin you will be able to do anything you want to the partition, since you will have read/wite there
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !gksudo
[01:29] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:29] <MatthewV> if you need to do it graphical, and you really really need to - hit alt-f2 then run 'gksudo nautilus'
[01:29] <spocky_> hi
[01:29] <I-kido> Viglen gnome of kde ?
[01:29] <MatthewV> oops.. ubotu says avoid ever using taht.... :(
[01:31] <Viglen> 2.12.1
[01:31] <vagn> question: is cuspsys known to be broken recently?  'cuase now when I print the printer wants me to load paper manually, where before it just took paper from whichever tray had some
[01:31] <Libere> Okay, super Duh question.  I'm *still* trying to install this alsa driver, and I actually got it to run the config but it said that I needed the full kernel source, so I got that, and then I tried it again, and it says the same thing.  Is that cause I didn't reboot?
[01:31] <frootstripe> math: do you want to do it directly, or through a router?
[01:32] <frogzoo> frootstripe: can't do much unless you backup or have another disk
[01:32] <r3d|line> my problem this mas
[01:32] <frootstripe> frogzoo: thanx
[01:32] <r3d|line> msg "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"."
[01:33] <r3d|line> can any body help
[01:34] <r3d|line> hello
[01:34] <r3d|line> any body here
[01:34] <bauer77> last I checked I was
[01:34] <OrT> Anyone a suggestion how to forward ports locally (let another port forward to default ssh)?
[01:34] <r3d|line> hi ba
[01:35] <r3d|line> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"."
[01:35] <bauer77> forward ports locally?
[01:35] <frogzoo> OrT: iptables
[01:35] <OrT> my router doesn't allow a public and a private port
[01:35] <OrT> so all that's commin in to 2222 should be forwarded to 22
[01:35] <Trixsey> Ubuntu has this nasty habit of sending raw data to my printer. For instance if I print something from gedit, it prints as raw pdf.. gets real messy.. tons of pages
[01:35] <OrT> for example.
[01:35] <Trixsey> What should I do?
[01:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Trixsey: Just a guess (I'm no expert): You might have the wrong printer driver installed.  You could try removing the printer, and reinstalling it, making sure that you have the correct driver.
[01:39] <zOap> how can I set what users that are able to run one certain program? This program(XLI) is default to root only but I want my ordinary user to run it as well. suid root/sudo is not an option since it's being called/loaded from another program that is running with ordinary user privelidges..
[01:43] <mwe> zOap: suid root will work in that case
[01:43] <frootstripe> !backup
[01:43] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:44] <SoulChild> HELLO, how can i reset all my log files in /usr/log???
[01:44] <SoulChild> can i delete them without problems
[01:45] <I-kido> SouldChild logrotate already does that for u
[01:45] <SoulChild> !logfiles
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <SoulChild> !logs
[01:45] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:45] <SzArAk> !logrotate SoulChild
[01:45] <ubotu> logrotate: Log rotation utility. In component main, is standard. Version 3.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 160 kB
[01:45] <SzArAk> !logrotate| SoulChild
[01:46] <SoulChild> I-kido, thanks
[01:46] <SoulChild> SzArAk, thanks
[01:46] <I-kido> tnx SzArAk :)
[01:46] <SzArAk> ;p
[01:46] <I-kido> SouldChild np
[01:46] <learnin9> hi
[01:46] <SzArAk> I-kido: i almoust did it right ;p
[01:46] <I-kido> loll  u did good
[01:46] <X|Rolando> does anyone here have any experience with the acer_acpi module?
[01:46] <I-kido> i forgot ubotu
[01:46] <learnin9> i come from china,i am using ubuntu-6.10
[01:47] <viviersf> has anyone ever heard about a laptops screen dimming when power is plugged in, and the screen brightens up when its running on batteries
[01:48] <I-kido> viviersf ubuntu does that in laptopmode
[01:49] <viviersf> I-kido, i doesnt, that is in reverse
[01:49] <viviersf> it should dimm when on battery not brighten up
[01:49] <thomas_> irc://irc.abjects.net/defonic-albums
[01:49] <I-kido> viviers, hold on
[01:49] <Trixsey> EnsignRedshirt, I just installed the specific driver :'(
[01:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Trixsey: OK, well, that's the end of my suggestions :(
[01:51] <frootstripe> learnin9: hi
[01:51] <niekie> Anyone know how I could turn my Ubuntu-Server in a NAS system with web-based control?
[01:51] <frootstripe> hey ppl, what
[01:51] <niekie> (I'd rather not install another distro like Openfiler)
[01:51] <frootstripe> what's the command for splitting up a tarball file into sections
[01:53] <di> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and 
[01:53] <frootstripe> ah, split, that's the ticket....
[01:54] <frootstripe> ty, frootstripe!
[01:54] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and 
[01:54] <weijie902> i have to press the button twice to get  which is not the normal single quote
[01:54] <weijie902> and  twice to get this weird double quote
[01:55] <zk> hello all -  i have not upgraded for a while and when i tried today, i got the following error:
[01:55] <zk> Extract templates from packages: 100%
[01:55] <zk> Preconfiguring packages ...
[01:55] <zk> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.15.91-2ubuntu0.3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:55] <zk>  files list file for package `grub' contains empty filename
[01:55] <zk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:55] <zk>  /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.15.91-2ubuntu0.3_i386.deb
[01:55] <zk> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[01:56] <zk> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:56] <zk> oopss sorry - i didn't realise that was so l9ong!
[01:56] <weijie902> !pastebin
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <zk> coulod anyone please help me? i am not sure what to do. i searched google but no lucl
[01:56] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and 
[01:56] <niekie> weijie902: Try a space bar after the character.
[01:57] <niekie> Like spacebar will get "
[01:58] <weijie902> niekie: oh it works
[01:58] <weijie902> niekie: but how do i fix it?
[01:58] <bugihugi> else you can borrow one of those : '`"
[01:59] <aBiNg> hi .all
[01:59] <weijie902> i tried to change the keymap using dpkg-reconfigure console-data, but no luck
[01:59] <weijie902> do i need to reboot?
[01:59] <niekie> weijie902: you can change it, but personally I like this way much better.
[01:59] <isofunk> hi
[01:59] <weijie902> niekie: how?
[01:59] <niekie> You can do this for example: hit ' and e and get 
[01:59] <aBiNg> anybody knows howto activate the fcitx IM in fluxbox?
[01:59] <weijie902> niekie: but i speak english only...
[02:00] <niekie> weijie902: ?
[02:00] <jeastman> Is there someone I can report a deb repository permission problem to? I get a 403 when I attempt to access http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_amd64.deb
[02:00] <niekie> weijie902: I think it can be changed somewhere for console, but I only know how to do it in GNOME.
[02:01] <weijie902> niekie: no need for 
[02:01] <zk> could someone help mepls?
[02:01] <weijie902> niekie: i installed the server version
[02:01] <EnsignRedshirt> jeastman: A bug has already been filed.
[02:01] <jeastman> EnsignRedshirt
[02:01] <niekie> weijie902: no idea =\
[02:01] <jeastman> EnsignRedshirt: Ok thanks
[02:01] <niekie> Someone else here might know.
[02:02] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:02] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:02] <weijie902> niekie: thanks for the spacebar tip btw!
[02:02] <EnsignRedshirt> jeastman: Wait... I'm not sure it is the same thing.
[02:02] <niekie> No problem :)
[02:02] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and 
[02:02] <weijie902> please help..
[02:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Argh, he left already.
[02:03] <zk> pleeeease
[02:03] <NET||abuse> hi all, i've had an intersting time with my laptop the last little while.
[02:03] <NET||abuse> nm-aplet wont connect to anything,, i have just managed to get it working fine with wi-fi radar,
[02:04] <abhinay> xchat opening urls in epiphany browser by default, how to change it to firefox ?
[02:04] <th0m> hi,
[02:04] <NET||abuse> so wifi is working, i'm on it now,, but the last 3 times, i've tried 4 or 5 times by just using nm-applet, no joy,, try with radar and straight off it works fine
[02:04] <NET||abuse> it's weird
[02:04] <feesh> where can I download the source code for apt-get ?
[02:05] <feesh> or well, apt
[02:05] <th0m> does anybody use nfs shared homes for its user, because i have some freeze under X (like a network failure?!)
[02:05] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:05] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:05] <zk> pleeeease someone help
[02:05] <feesh> th0m: have you got portmap?
[02:06] <feesh> portmap speeds up the nfs mount time, but if you just can't mount nfs at all, I've had a similar issue and the only way I got around it was getting another NIC
[02:06] <th0m> feesh, yes
[02:06] <th0m> i can mount
[02:06] <feesh> of course, it's hard to tell if it's the same issue
[02:06] <feesh> sorry dude, I don't know then
[02:06] <th0m> i can use it, but X freeze some time
[02:07] <feesh> does any one know where I can get the source for apt?
[02:07] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:07] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:07] <zk> pleeeease someone help
[02:07] <zk>  files list file for package `grub' contains empty filename
[02:08] <zk> what on earth does that mean? i have tried redownloading that file
[02:08] <zk> but no luck
[02:08] <zk> same error
[02:08] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:09] <zk> can anyone helppls?
[02:11] <zk> anyone?
[02:11] <HymnToLife> zk, what exactly do you want to do ?
[02:11] <zk> i am trying to install the updates HymnToLife
[02:12] <zk> HymnToLife, but it just gives me the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:12] <HymnToLife> have you reinstalled it ?
[02:12] <weijie90> Help, i cant type double quotes and single quotes
[02:12] <HymnToLife> (the "grub" package)
[02:13] <mustaukko> caci: I solved it. compiz is still giving me issues, but yeah, I had about three different versions of nvidia. It seemed that an update rom 7xxx to 8776 had crapped.
[02:13] <weijie90> when i hit the button twice  or  (no shift and shift respecively) appears
[02:13] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: still having trouble?
[02:13] <zk> HymnToLife, how would i do that?
[02:14] <zk> HymnToLife, i haven't reinstalled it - i am just trying to install all the updates
[02:14] <patrick__> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <patrick__> !p2p
[02:14] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:15] <zk> HymnToLife, any idea what the problemmay be?
[02:15] <weijie90> when i hit the button twice  or  (no shift and shift respecively) appears
[02:15] <weijie90> Help, i cant type double quotes and single quotes
[02:15] <HymnToLife> zk, download the grub package from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <HymnToLife> then install it
[02:15] <HymnToLife> !deb
[02:15] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:16] <Vandalay> debby packages
[02:16] <zOap> It seems dapper doenst print the path to /usr/X11R6/bin for "normal users" where do I put that path so that it's avalable for "normal users" ?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> zOap, in the $PATH environment variable
[02:17] <zOap> HymnToLife, and where is that?
[02:17] <I-kido> weijie90 try U.S English keyboard layout, Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[02:18] <weijie90> I-kido: how do i change it?
[02:18] <cypher1_> is wiki.ubuntu.com is the proper place to share my tips and tricks or some how-to's ?
[02:18] <I-kido> Ubuntu, Gnome ?
[02:18] <HymnToLife> zOap, do you want to add it to the PATH for only one user or all of them ?
[02:18] <zk> HymnToLife, grub --version
[02:18] <zk> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[02:18] <frootstripe> zOap: echo $PATH on your command line
[02:18] <zOap> HymnToLife, well the best is to get all the users get them, but I can rest with just the one...
[02:19] <zOap> frootstripe, I want it permanent and for gui programs too
[02:19] <HymnToLife> zOap, I repeat, for only one user or all of them ?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> (sorry, we cross-typed I guess :p)
[02:19] <HymnToLife> zOap, do you have a file named /etc/bashrc
[02:20] <HymnToLife> or something similar
[02:20] <zOap> HymnToLife, I answered that:) I want it for all of them but if its hard I can do it for just one of them.. But I prefer for all of them
[02:20] <zOap> HymnToLife, yes.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> open it in your favourite text editor and pastebin it
[02:21] <frootstripe> z0ap: put it in /etc/bash.bashrc, i believe that's the ticket ;P
[02:21] <zOap> HymnToLife, http://pastebin.ca/326810
[02:21] <HymnToLife> zk, did you reinstall the grub package as I told you ?
[02:21] <zOap> HymnToLife, what should I put there?
[02:23] <HymnToLife> zOap, line 5, add this at the end (without quotes : ":/usr/X11R6/bin"
[02:23] <zOap> HymnToLife,  ok thanks
[02:23] <HymnToLife> then logout and log back in
[02:23] <deltaray2> I'm getting this when I try to do the latest updates
[02:23] <deltaray2> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12.2 403 Forbidden [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 
[02:23] <deltaray2> I've tried it a few times, no go.
[02:23] <deltaray2> Do I need to change mirrors?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> you can do echo $PATH do make sure it was added correctly
[02:24] <zOap> HymnToLife, ok, thanks:)
[02:24] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: There is a packaging bug that the develepors are trying to fix.  Maybe they have locked that file to prevent updates until it is fixed?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> to*
[02:24] <deltaray2> maybe
[02:24] <deltaray2> EnsignRedshirt, perhaps
[02:25] <zOap> HymnToLife, you mean "echo PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" ?
[02:25] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: ...so maybe it's a good thing you can't get it.  Some people in the forums are having some real problems after the libc6 update.
[02:26] <HymnToLife> no, just echo $PATH
[02:26] <zOap> HymnToLife, ok, thanks:)
[02:26] <HymnToLife> to see if /usr/X11R6/bin has been correctly added to it
[02:27] <deltaray2> EnsignRedshirt, Hmmm. I'm not having any problems on the machine I'm on now after doing the update.  I hadn't done it yet on this other machine that I'm getting the error on.
[02:27] <deltaray2> I'll wait
[02:27] <tuok> Hi! I have little problem with my ubuntu.. I tried to set shortcuts to music player (I pressed Windows-button+z,x,c,v,b) and now my zxcvb-buttons wont work at all! What should I do to fix this annoying problem? (It's pretty slow to type with help of character map :) )
[02:27] <m1r4g3> Hi, anyone able to use belgian electronic identity card on ubuntu?
[02:28] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: From what I read on the forum, it seems the problem might only occur if you have certain other packages installed.
[02:29] <foolip> is there a way to list the installed packages which do not exist in the repositories or are newer than the ones in the repository? i've manually installed quite a few new versions of gstreamer libraries and whatnot and would like to see exactly what I've messed with.
[02:29] <tuok> any idea if I can reset my shortcut settings or something like that?
[02:31] <frogzoo> foolip: you can see that in synaptic under local package
[02:32] <esaym> hey everyone
[02:32] <jenda> frogzoo: remember when I asked about the flashdrive/encrypted partition?
[02:32] <jenda> hey, esaym
[02:32] <esaym> does the tar command have a variable for the level of compression?
[02:32] <foolip> frogzoo, where can I find "local package", I'm still on dapper, maybe it doesn't exist yet?
[02:32] <esaym> I thought it did but the man page says nothing
[02:32] <jenda> frogzoo: I finally got that machine with the key... but I can't find the link you gave me.
[02:33] <esaym> I am writing a backup script and I want max compression
[02:34] <HymnToLife> esaym, a standard tar + bzip2 should give you a very nice level of compression
[02:34] <ljl16> hello!
[02:34] <dv_> 7zip is very nice, too.
[02:34] <Co_Manizz> .dal.net
[02:34] <esaym> True but I thought it had a configurable variable
[02:35] <dv_> it also has the advantage of being able to decompress individual files without decompressing the entire stream
[02:35] <esaym> like commpression level 1-9
[02:35] <dv_> bzip2 has this level
[02:35] <dv_> 9 being max compression, 1 min
[02:35] <esaym> oh ok so it is bzip then
[02:35] <gord> tar just holds together the files (like glue... or tar....) bzip/gzip typically does all the compression esaym
[02:35] <esaym> bzip is better too huh?
[02:35] <esaym> oh I see
[02:35] <esaym> hmm
[02:36] <dv_> yes, tar -cjf calls bzip2
[02:36] <dv_> and -czf gzip
[02:37] <esaym> so tar -czf?
[02:37] <dv_> I'd use bzip2
[02:37] <dv_> its slower than gzip, but compresses better
[02:37] <esaym> tar -cjf /filename/?
[02:38] <dv_> tar -cjf archivename.tar.bz2 file_to_add another_file_to_add ...
[02:38] <dv_> (note that you also can add directories)
[02:38] <esaym> interesting
[02:38] <esaym> Thank you
[02:39] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys, ever since I did apt-get dist-upgrade whenever I open something from the terminal I get the error: libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and glxgears performs really slowly
[02:40] <esaym> Hmm still can't find the command for the compression variable. Do you know it off hand dv?
[02:40] <esaym> dv_
[02:41] <dv_> I use libbz2 in my projects
[02:41] <dv_> never used the compression variable with tar tho
[02:41] <esaym> -[0-7] [lmh] 
[02:41] <esaym>               specify drive and density
[02:41] <esaym> is that it?
[02:41] <dv_> no
[02:42] <esaym> hmm yeae it should go to 9
[02:45] <_vlo> How do I stop Rhythmbox from updating a podcast channel?
[02:45] <esaym> well I got to get ready for schoo
[02:46] <forkqueue> Is there a reason why I'm unable to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.1_amd64.deb ?
[02:46] <forkqueue> I get a 403 error..
[02:46] <anti_system32> hola salen esaol por favol
[02:46] <anti_system32> sala
[02:47] <IdleOne> esaym: check this link out not sure if its what you need http://www.ubuntugeek.com/disk-archive-backup-and-restore-using-dar-and-kdardar-frontend.html
[02:47] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[02:47] <IdleOne> !es
[02:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:47] <cyzie> just wish to find out if anyone has bought HP Pavilion model DV6126TX and install ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu ?
[02:48] <IdleOne> forkqueue: repo may be down temporarily
[02:49] <zehntagebart> hi there
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: Nope, repo is fine
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: I can fetch other files
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: Looks to me like someone chmod -r'd the file
[02:49] <zehntagebart> somebody able to help with cryptdisks?
[02:49] <esaym> ok thanlks
[02:49] <IdleOne> could be
[02:50] <oxygen> hello
[02:50] <oxygen> help me pls
[02:50] <IdleOne> hey
[02:50] <IdleOne> !helpme
[02:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:50] <oxygen> i need graphic color change management tool on ubuntu
[02:50] <Vom> Heeeeeeeeeya.
[02:50] <esaym> oh well I am not trying to backup ubuntu, but an old firewall box I have
[02:50] <oxygen> is there any tool or programs for ubuntu ?
[02:51] <CheshireViking> I've just resized my win xp drive to give me 10Gb of unallocated disk space, should I manually create the partitions to install ubuntu, or should i let the install cd allocate the space itself?  I want to reserve about 2gb to set aside for a fat32 partition so that i can safely transfer data between winxp and ubuntu, would i be better creating that partition first before installing ubuntu
[02:51] <IdleOne> esaym: like I said wasnt sure if it was what you needed but could come in handy :)
[02:51] <oxygen> help me pls
[02:51] <Tomcat_> CheshireViking: Create the fat32 partition, then let the installer decide for the rest.
[02:51] <Vom> oxygen whats yer question
[02:51] <Vom> Is there any programs for ubuntu? :D
[02:51] <oxygen> :)
 i need graphic color change management tool on ubuntu
[02:51] <oxygen> no
[02:51] <esaym> true
[02:51] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, create your partitions, then point the installer at the big chunk for the rest
[02:51] <esaym> does it work through ssh?
[02:52] <esaym> eor can it?
[02:52] <jenda> What's a reasonable keysize for an encrypted partition? And is it ok for the partition to be 2 Gig, or is that too much?
[02:52] <IdleOne> esaym: yeah it does
[02:52] <Vom> Well, ill shoot my question then:
[02:52] <esaym> interesting
[02:52] <zehntagebart> i encrypted hda2 (swap), hda3 (/var) and hda4 (/home) with cryptdisks. but the are not mounted after boot and i get no prompt to enter the passwords =(
[02:52] <lojikal> cheshireviking: and you know you'll need to configure grub to recognize the other OS's, right?
[02:52] <oxygen> is there ?
[02:52] <oxygen> Tomcat_,
[02:52] <Vom> Am I able to install World of Warcraft on ubuntu 6.10 with an ati x800 gto card.
[02:52] <Tomcat_> oxygen: I have no idea, that's why I didn't reply. I don't even know what color management does... sorry. :\
[02:53] <lojikal> vom: no
[02:53] <oxygen> okey
[02:53] <LycanNYC-work> !server
[02:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:53] <Vom> And you gave me that answer because of ?
[02:53] <CheshireViking> Tomcat_ & lojikal : thanks for that, confirms what i thought, set up shared partition first, then let ubuntu do the work, presumably that'll allocate some of the free space to swap & the rest to its own installation
[02:53] <oxygen> does everybody not know it =
[02:53] <lojikal> zehntagebart: why the hell did you encrypt swap?
[02:53] <Tomcat_> CheshireViking: Exactly. :)
[02:54] <Vom> oxygen google ;)
[02:54] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, it'll make swap, depending on what it thinks it needs, a boot partition, etc...
[02:54] <Vom> Could someone give me a proper answer to this question of mine, Can I play WoW on ubuntu with an ati card
[02:54] <oxygen> Vom, : icant find
[02:55] <Jowi> !wow | Vom (not sure if the question is answered here)
[02:55] <ubotu> Vom (not sure if the question is answered here): Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:55] <CheshireViking> lojikal: will i need to manually configure grub? the dual boot i did at home automatically configured grub so that ubuntu autostarts in 10 seconds unless i press a key & select windows to boot from, i didn't have to do anything with grub - but the difference there was i was using 2 hard drives, not partitions on the same drive
[02:55] <lojikal> vom: no, you cannot. You need windows api... mac version might work, but i seriously doubt it
[02:56] <Vom> Well how come theres an tutorial in ubuntu.com about installing Wow ?
[02:56] <Vom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[02:56] <zehntagebart> lojikal, because it was listed in the wiki manual =)
[02:56] <lojikal> cheshireviking: perhaps, if it works, great, if not, just put your partitions into /etc/grub.conf manually (there's good documentation in taht file)
[02:57] <esaym> Wow I didn't know about this: http://debian.co.nz/tutorials/14
[02:57] <lojikal> vom: oh, perhaps there is a windows wrapper taht will do it -- maybe wine?
[02:57] <Jowi> Vom, seems like you can since Tweak #1 is for both ATi and nVidia
[02:57] <CheshireViking> lojikal: thanks for that advice, fingers crossed nothing goes wrong
[02:57] <Vom> Jowi okay, well.
[02:57] <lojikal> cheshireviking: if it does, we're here, lol
[02:57] <Vom> Last time i tried, it was on ubuntu 6.05 or something or i believe so, and then I had proplems with ATi card
[02:58] <Vom> Well, Jowi's answer maybe gave me some inspiration to again and try that shit out! :D
[02:58] <Jowi> Vom, you do have a good ati card though and has DRI enabled in Linux?
[02:59] <Vom> mmh
[02:59] <Vom> I'd say this is a good card, x800 GTO
[02:59] <CheshireViking> lojikal: i've been lucky so far, changed to 3 slackware/ubuntu only installs and a dual boot without much problem - if this goes as well as those i'll be smiling
[02:59] <Jowi> Vom, "glxinfo | grep direct" should say yes. if it do I would say "go ahead"
[03:00] <Vom> Jowi well i cant really see my glxinfo now in Windows :b
[03:00] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, grub has gotten alot better, just depends on what gets installed in what order, etc...
[03:00] <Jowi> Vom, you can't? how strange hehe
[03:00] <dirrty> How can I get hide joins and quits in XChat?
[03:00] <Vom> ;-)
[03:01] <Vom> Jowi by the way
[03:01] <Jowi> dirrty, Settings -> advanced -> text events
[03:01] <gord> right click the channel tab (or list item if you use the list view) and uncheck show join/quit dirrty
[03:01] <lojikal> Ok, so I'm behind a campus firewall which allows one port in and out (aside from pt 80), and I need a socks proxy or virtual vpn type deal so taht I can forward all the ports through a tunnel to another computer... any ideas?
[03:02] <Vom> In windows, WoW doesnt need any registry or instaling to work, I mean that you can backup the WoW folder and just paste it back to yer hard drive for it to work
[03:02] <Vom> Do you believe that thing would change if id try th esame thing no linux?
[03:02] <Vom> on*
[03:02] <Jowi> Vom, I have no idea
[03:02] <insolado> Hi, i'm new on ubuntu (dapper) and i want some help, like... where can i get a basic manual of this? i want to know how and where to install and uninstall programs (console), what does /usr /sbin /dev , etc. mean? and so....
[03:03] <insolado> and anybody knows how to get details about my computer? specially about my processor
[03:03] <Lynoure> insolado: hardware, you mean?   sudo lshw
[03:03] <Vom> Jowi does ubuntu have any webpage or such for list of hardware which are guaranteed to work with it
[03:03] <bugihugi> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:03] <Seeker`> does anyone know where the irssi-scripts package installs the scripts?
[03:03] <insolado> thanks
[03:04] <IdleOne> !hardware
[03:04] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: you don't install software in a specific place, you either "make && make install" the source, or grab a deb package (apt-get FTW!)
[03:04] <forkqueue> Seeker`: dpkg -L irssi-scripts
[03:04] <IdleOne> !hardware > Vom
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: as for a basic guide, try the wiki
[03:04] <CanadianMan> question, when i type mode2 i get, mode2: error opening /dev/lirc mode2: No such file or directory, any help on why?
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: also, prolly should upgrade to edgy... latest better...
[03:04] <IdleOne> Vom: your welcome
[03:04] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: Because the lirc module isn't loaded probably..
[03:04] <HymnToLife> lojikal, not really
[03:05] <HymnToLife> !worksforme
[03:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:05] <Jowi> Vom, I haven't seen any
[03:05] <Vom> Right of the bat, Ati a8n-e :-)
[03:05] <xopher> hi, anyone here who's got experience on how to install a canon mp150 printer?
[03:05] <Vom> Now before I make any stupid decisions im gonna start typing down with pencil and paper, notes and such.
[03:05] <X|Rolando> acer laptops and/or acer acpi, any suggestions folks?
[03:06] <CanadianMan> forkqueue, how would i load that modprobe or something?
[03:06] <onats> !hibernate
[03:06] <IdleOne> xopher: canon does not provide linux drivers but if you ever get it working let me know
[03:06] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[03:06] <lojikal> hymntolife, sorry? you mean the wiki's not a good guide? I found it pretty useful
[03:06] <onats> my hibernate is not working properly
[03:06] <jenda> When I do "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2", will it ever finish, or do I just leave it as long as i feel like it?
[03:06] <onats> any ideas?
[03:06] <oxygen> how can i change gnome starting splash screens
[03:06] <xopher> IdleOne, that much I know. :) Ill let you know if I somehow manage to get it working yeah.
[03:06] <IdleOne> !eyecandy > oxygen
[03:06] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: You need to compile using the lirc-modules-source package, it's a bit of a PITA
[03:06] <HymnToLife> lojikal, no, I mean running the latest version of everything is not alway the best idea
[03:07] <insolado> lojikal: in linux isn't a place for programs like in windows c:\Program Files? I would like to uninstall this old firefox and install the new one, but i want to be sure to delte all the old files...
[03:07] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: There's a page on the wiki about it somewhere
[03:07] <CanadianMan> forkqueue, thank you
[03:07] <ttrygve> I didn't see an answer to forkqueue's question earlier, but I'm also getting 403 errors when Update Manager tries to grab three libc6 files
[03:07] <Vom> IdleOne but how accurate is that?
[03:07] <twisties> How to install 64 bit kernel ??? Currently using 386. On Athlon64 3200+
[03:08] <lojikal> insolado: so "sudo apt-get remove firefox" then "apt-get install firefox"
[03:08] <Vom> Do you think i should not try if my ex. motherboard isnt on that list?
[03:08] <IdleOne> Vom: I assume that like anything else there is probably a margin of eror but I think it is pretty accurate.
[03:08] <lojikal> insolado: if apt-get can't remove all of firefox, it will give you a command to clean it up, run that too
[03:08] <forkqueue> ttrygve: I'm guessing that the update breaks things
[03:08] <joefreire> how to install counter-strike 1.6 in Ubuntu 6.10??
[03:08] <insolado> k, thx
[03:08] <Lynoure> Vom: What's stopping you trying with livecd?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !wine | joefreire
[03:08] <ubotu> joefreire: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:08] <Vom> Can I do everything with a Live?
[03:09] <ttrygve> yeah, I just figured I'd throw in a "me too" in case anyone important is watching and wasn't aware of a problem =)
[03:09] <oxygen> i have not Configuration Editor
[03:09] <Jowi> xopher, doesn't look too good http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150
[03:09] <Vom> !livecd > Vom
[03:09] <Vom> :<
[03:09] <insolado> you don't get tired answering so many questions?
[03:09] <oxygen> how can i setup it?
[03:09] <joefreire> but u have tutor to install??
[03:09] <crazy_penguin> hello to all!
[03:10] <xopher> Jowi, thanks.. well I found a solution I guess, it's not free though: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html IdleOne this one's for you too ;)
[03:10] <Lynoure> Vom: no, not everything, but it will give you a good idea of whether hardware that is not on that list might work out of the box anyway
[03:10] <Vom> Well, ive been scaling thru the forums.
[03:10] <IdleOne> xopher: yeah I found that one also but I dont want to pay :/
[03:10] <Vom> And I see a lot people using the same videocard as I do
[03:10] <Vom> So i prefer its working fine.
[03:11] <lojikal> insolado: i learn a ton on these channels :) so i dont' mind sharing what i (think i) know
[03:12] <Vom> Ah damnit
[03:12] <Vom> Can anyone answer this question: does ubuntu have any s60 system mobilephone software?
[03:12] <Vom> For installing software and so on?
[03:13] <Lynoure> Vom: I think I know one person with s60 and ubuntu...
[03:13] <Vom> mmh
[03:13] <Vom> Well its not a big deal
[03:13] <Vom> Almost everything can be done with the phone
[03:13] <Vom> And I can do rest on school ;)
[03:13] <xopher> IdleOne, then I found these: http://pixma.schewe.com/ http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/
[03:13] <mustaukko> Vom: http://www.wahlau.org/series_60_3rd_edition_nokia_n73_synchronization_with_opensync_under_ubuntu_edgy
[03:13] <Lynoure> Vom: But he is offline, so I cannot checked from him..
[03:13] <mribas> www.me.gob.ve
[03:14] <Vom> mustaukko cool, just the right model there :b
[03:14] <Vom> n73 ^^
[03:14] <mustaukko> Vom: thats a synchronization software, it should be able to do it all.
[03:14] <Vom> Okay cool
[03:14] <Vom> Thanks for letting me know this
[03:14] <bauer77> what is the command to see if my 3d rendering is working
[03:14] <mustaukko> Vom, No problem, have fun with ubuntu, and do try out compiz. :D
[03:15] <bauer77> ati radeon 9700
[03:15] <Vom> compiz ? :b
[03:15] <mustaukko> bauer77: glxinfo
[03:15] <GaiaX11> how do i now my ram memory amount? Which is the command?
[03:15] <bauer77> thanks mustaukko
[03:15] <mustaukko> bauer77: glxgears
[03:15] <Jowi> GaiaX11, "free -m" where -m stands for listing in MB
[03:16] <thomas_> hi all
[03:16] <mustaukko> bauer77: those two do the trick. Plus if you try out glxinfo |grep direct then you know if you have direct rendering enabled.
[03:16] <dirrty>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[03:16] <Jowi> GaiaX11, you can also "cat /proc/meminfo"
[03:17] <bauer77> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <bauer77> any help on this?
[03:17] <bauer77> I have a ATI radeon mobility and am a noob
[03:17] <bauer77> it was using the mesa driver but now I think I have it using fglrx
[03:18] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you installed the fglrx package?
[03:18] <bauer77> yes
[03:19] <bauer77> I believe so
[03:19] <thomas_> i have a problem with the shortcuts for putting my volume up and down accuratly with the shortcut there is only the volume of the PCM that goes down how can i make the shortcut to turn down the sound of the front channel ?
[03:19] <thomas_> bauer77: whats the output of fglrxinfo ?
[03:19] <mustaukko> bauer77: try to use my name, I'll spot your messages easier. :) up arrow gives you the previous message
[03:19] <thomas_> bauer77, had the same problem right yesterday
[03:19] <mustaukko> bauer: put this into console: glxinfo |grep vendor
[03:20] <bauer77> fXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:20] <bauer77> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[03:20] <mustaukko> bauer: ok, this means that you do not have fglrx as the opengl driver atm.
[03:20] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you tinkered with xorg.conf yet?
[03:21] <bauer77> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:21] <bauer77> server glx vendor string: SGI
[03:21] <bauer77> client glx vendor string: ATI
[03:21] <bauer77> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:21] <mustaukko> bauer77: oh, now it says that you've got ati in there..
[03:21] <Jedrick> how can i install driver for my soundcard?
[03:21] <GaiaX11> Jowi: Thx a lot :-)
[03:22] <bauer77> yes but dont think the rendering is working properly.
[03:22] <mustaukko> bauer77: I had this issue today; I had updated nvidia, and had multiple ones installed. it led into it not working correctly.
[03:22] <mustaukko> bauer77: can this be the case in here?
[03:22] <bauer77> no I dont think so
[03:22] <bauer77> this is what happened
[03:22] <bauer77> when I first installed ubuntu
[03:22] <hemppa> !enter
[03:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:23] <mustaukko> bauer77: I was able to track it down by using aptitude.
[03:23] <mustaukko> bauer77: You might also want to try envy script. (Although I think it's automation was part of my problem..)
[03:24] <bauer77> so it installed the mesa drivers. I went into the xorg.conf file and ran the configuration again and selected the fglrx instead of the others. This gave my my 1400x900 resolution.
[03:25] <bauer77> but I am still not getting 3d rendering, ( I believe).
[03:25] <bauer77> I hate being a noob.
[03:25] <twisties> How do I install 64 bit kernel?? Am currently running 386 on an amd64
[03:26] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you set the modules right? X server loads different modules at startup.
[03:26] <Jedrick> how can i install driver for my soundcard?
[03:26] <mustaukko> bauer77: It is pretty well described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:27] <mustaukko> bauer77: But I'll run you through it.
[03:27] <bauer77> ok let me check that out, first
[03:27] <aimtrainer> !alsa
[03:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:27] <bauer77> no sense on you helping if I can read it too..lol
[03:27] <mustaukko> bauer77: Ok, sure. If you have questions about it, I'll be here.
[03:29] <aimtrainer> hi! My sound basically works but my mastervolume doesnt. So I thought I'd update alsa ... can anyone please tell me how to?
[03:29] <aimtrainer> I have some onboard via sound (mainboard: ecs k7vta3)
[03:29] <frootstripe> hi - if I am going to upgrade to edgy, is there a k7 kernel i need to have? cause that is what i'm using now - if so, where is it?
[03:31] <bauer77> Thanks
[03:31] <bauer77> sorry, thanks Mustaukko
[03:31] <MrMist> Hi All
[03:31] <vonk_> chgchan vonk_
[03:31] <jonathaN> frootstripe: no, the number of specific kernel flavours was reduced in edgy, the k7 one and some others are now replaced by one "generic" kernel
[03:31] <mustaukko> bauer77: Did you get it to work?
[03:32] <MrMist> I'm having a problem: I want Amarok to autoplay audio CD's, not "sound juicer". Anyone know how to fix this ?
[03:32] <frootstripe> jonathaN: thanks
[03:32] <thomas_> how is it possible to change the main channel of the volumecontrol ?
[03:34] <mamboadm> hey does anybody know of sympa? i have a minor problem
[03:34] <remssss> hello everyone
[03:35] <PecisDarbs> hello
[03:35] <caci> MrMist: you should be able to set that from "preferred apps"
[03:35] <hexidigital_> i dont know what's going on here guys, but my server keeps locking up to the point that i have to hard reset it
[03:35] <Crescendo> There's no way I can merge two windows of Firefox, is there. :/
[03:35] <zax1> any one know of an open office irc chanel ?
[03:35] <remssss> What 's the problem ?
[03:35] <eliran> I'll think about it
[03:35] <munki3> um, ayone know how i (a complete beginner to linux) can get my creative zen vision working with this ubuntu
[03:35] <munki3> ?
[03:36] <tuskernini> zax1: there is one... just look ant the channels... you win find it
[03:36] <zax1> i am new to irc as well, how do i look ?
[03:36] <falz> so, from a fresh install of ubuntu (edgy), what's the trick to install kde? if I apt-get install kde, it has several unmet dependencies out of the box.
[03:36] <twisties> Can anyone tell me simply how to install a 64 bit kernel instead of the 386 one im using at the moment?
[03:37] <tuskernini> zax1: what are you using ? try /list
[03:37] <Vom> Can i find ubuntu 6.10 on dvd iso ?
[03:37] <fm> hi
[03:37] <zax1> yes  / list worked
[03:37] <MrMist> caci: Er.... it's only internet and terminal apps defined in "preferred application"... or are you thinking about something else ?
[03:37] <munki3> Vom: you run out of cd-r's?
[03:37] <Vom> Yup
[03:37] <munki3> me too
[03:38] <munki3> :(
[03:38] <munki3> lol
[03:38] <Vom> :(
[03:38] <twisties> vom: I have my CD iso burned to a DVD and it works fine
[03:38] <Vom> Heh :b
[03:38] <Vom> twisties ah, thanks for your wisdom <3
[03:38] <fm> I opened a VNC session on a box on my local network, I can see the remote desktop, but I cannot move the mouse or type from my computer on the remote one... the server is "vino" I guess, and I use vncviewer as a client
[03:38] <munki3> nero wouldnt let me burn the iso to dvd-r
[03:38] <munki3> :S
[03:38] <twisties> vom: :)
[03:38] <falz> fm: are you sure the vnc server isn't set to a read only mode?
[03:38] <aimtrainer> Can anyone please tell me how to update alsa? ..running edgy
[03:38] <caci> MrMist: there's some config dialog for gnome volume manager. try gnome-volume<TAB> or something in a terminal
[03:38] <twisties> munki3: I'm using DVD-R and Nero 7
[03:39] <munki3> yup
[03:39] <caci> MrMist: sorry i don't know the precise name :-(
[03:39] <munki3> me too
[03:39] <tuskernini> zax1: i saw there are lots... just choose one with your needs...
[03:39] <munki3> well, until i installed this Ubuntu OS
[03:39] <munki3> lol
[03:39] <twisties> odd. Im not an iso or nero or dvd type expert so i'm clueless sorry
[03:39] <thomas_> where is XF86AudioMute defined ?
[03:39] <xopher> Hi! got a guide on how to beautifying gtk1 apps?
[03:39] <zax1> how do u stop this list command#
[03:39] <fm> falz: I think it isnt, chacked the "allow other users to control your desktop" box
[03:39] <zax1> its still running
[03:39] <fm> *checked
[03:40] <tuskernini> zax1: oops
[03:40] <zax1> the /list listthem all, can i do a search instead of a list ?
[03:40] <munki3> np, i burned it to a cd-rw that i had (i had to sacrifice the pr0n of me+my ex on it though)
[03:40] <munki3> :(
[03:40] <MrMist> caci: Yeah... found that one, but it doesn't seem to work :(
[03:40] <munki3> was saving all that for a rainy day
[03:40] <munki3> lol
[03:40] <tuskernini> zax1: try /join #openoffice.org
[03:40] <caci> MrMist: lol? it ignores yoour settings?
[03:41] <remssss> Il Neige
[03:41] <zax1> u r a sar :)
[03:41] <zax1> STAR even
[03:41] <tuskernini> zax1: that is there user help channel... pleasure
[03:42] <awad> hello! i'm trying to compile something here, but it fails. i'm on a fresh ubuntu linux installation. i heard somewhere that i might ahve to do an apt-get install kernel-source, but that command doesn't work...
[03:42] <twisties> munki3: Lol, thats what my 20gb mp3 player/external hdd are for ;)
[03:42] <twisties> is* for
[03:42] <b08y_> awad: what?
[03:42] <b08y_> awad: what do you try to compile`
[03:43] <awad> b08y_: aircrack-ng.org version 0.7
[03:43] <MrMist> caci: hmm... seems it's working when I put the CD into the drive... so autoplay is working
[03:43] <hexidigital_> i keep getting a kernel panic... something is VERY wrong here
[03:44] <munki3> i have a 400gb external and a 30gb zen, plus 60gb and 80gb 2.5" externals
[03:44] <thomas_> or maybe someone know what script is started at XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[03:44] <munki3> all except thezen i had to use to back up my other 'stuff'
[03:44] <MrMist> caci: But when I click the CD icon on the desktop, "sound-juicer" starts instead :S
[03:44] <munki3> didnt think about backing stuff up to the zen though
[03:44] <caci> MrMist: yes.. hmm
[03:44] <caci> MrMist: g-v-m does the autoplay part
[03:45] <awad> does anybody know why i can't compile this thing here on a fresh ubuntu installation? httpp://www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt
[03:45] <caci> MrMist: maybe you can set the preferred ripper for the file-manager in the CD's properties dialog
[03:45] <osum> does anybody knows where i can get earth wallpaper with 1280x104px ?
[03:45] <munki3> i wish i could use the zen under ubuntu
[03:45] <caci> MrMist: but i never did that
[03:45] <b08y_> awad: << looking
[03:45] <awad> osum: try deviantart.com
[03:45] <munki3> it's my primary use of my pc
[03:46] <munki3> :(
[03:46] <Vom> Ahh yeah
[03:46] <hexidigital_> when my server goes into kernel panic, i get the error:  CPU: 0; EIP: 0060:[<c0116139>] ; Tainted: P  VLI
[03:46] <b08y_> awad: plz use pastebin
[03:46] <Vom> One thing Id need assistance, truetype fonts?
[03:46] <b08y_> awad: that link doesnt work
[03:46] <mzuverink> munki3, I put stuff on my daugthers Zen with Ubuntu all the time, why cant you?
[03:46] <awad> http://www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt
[03:47] <munki3> it's a zen vision
[03:47] <munki3> that nomad thing doesnt recoignise it
[03:47] <mzuverink> munki3, have you tried amarok?
[03:47] <Vom> !ttf > vom
[03:47] <munki3> amarok?
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <munki3> no
[03:47] <munki3> :D
[03:47] <twisties> do you mean "use it" as in have the necessary software for transferring music available on linux?
[03:47] <twisties> or use it as a storage medium?
[03:48] <mzuverink> munki3, My daughters is a vision 30 gig, and amarok works for it
[03:48] <munki3> instaling amarok now
[03:48] <munki3> :D
[03:48] <hexidigital_> when my server goes into kernel panic, i get the error:  CPU: 0; EIP: 0060:[<c0116139>] ; Tainted: P  VLI  --- And now it won't boot
[03:48] <munki3> twisties: transfer music to it
[03:48] <Azul> why does ubuntu insist booting with a gui when it has poor gfx card detection?
[03:48] <thomas_> nobody an idea how i could poweroff my pcm channel
[03:48] <LjL> hexidigital_: doesn't that sound like a hardware problem?
[03:48] <munki3> will i need to install lame for amarok?
[03:49] <b08y_> awad: hmm, sec just tryiong somethin
[03:49] <hexidigital_> LjL: it doesn't?
[03:49] <twisties> ahh k. Was gonna say, mine works fine on the storage side of things. haven't bothered trying to transfer music.
[03:49] <awad> ok
[03:49] <osum> can opera gets the style of the actually gnome theme ?
[03:49] <awad> thanks man
[03:49] <Azul> munki3, you need to install a decoder, not an encoder
[03:49] <hexidigital_> LjL: now i'm getting unexpected IRQ trap at vector [random addresses] 
[03:49] <Crescendo> Aww man my internet is mega slow!  Ubuntu seems to be taking forever to resolve a page, but once it does, most of the elements on the page download fast.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:49] <twisties> i'll always have a windows install for that
[03:49] <LjL> hexidigital_: well, i meant to say that it does, to me. though i can't really say... when does the boot stop?
[03:49] <Jowi> Azul, there is also the "alternative" ISO to download for a text only install
[03:50] <hexidigital_> LjL: random times
[03:50] <osum> i want opera in the style of my gnome theme
[03:50] <mamboadm> how do i remove a user?
[03:50] <LjL> hexidigital_: it used to work correctly before the first kernel panic?
[03:50] <LjL> mamboadm: deluser
[03:50] <Azul> Jowi, why do i have to download another 700 MB.. couldn't they make one cd that has gui and cli? i don't think it's hard
[03:50] <hexidigital_> LjL: i had uptime of months before yesterday
[03:50] <Azul> osum, then change the browser
[03:50] <Crescendo> Aww man my internet is mega slow!  Ubuntu seems to be taking forever to resolve a page, but once it does, most of the elements on the page download fast.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:50] <Crescendo> Whoops, my bad.
[03:50] <LjL> hexidigital_: did you upgrade or change anything significant?
[03:50] <Azul> cuz opera doesn't care
[03:51] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Crescendo about ipv6 | Crescendo, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: i did an aptitude upgrade today, it install flash, and a bunch of others
[03:51] <b08y_> awad: hmm, first get new src
[03:51] <ubuntu> siemka
[03:51] <LjL> hexidigital_: including libc?
[03:51] <awad> get new src?
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: yes
[03:51] <awad> but this is the latest
[03:51] <ubuntu> yes
[03:51] <b08y_> awad: i mean fresh src
[03:51] <ubuntu> i from poland
[03:51] <LjL> hexidigital_: well, libc is quite significant. however, it still sounds to me more like a hardware problem. have you run a memtest?
[03:51] <munki3> hmmm, installed amarok, but confused as to how to 'mount' my creative zen
[03:51] <Crescendo> LjL, thanks - but why would it happen so suddenly?
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: not yet
[03:52] <Crescendo> It's been doing this for just over a week now.
[03:52] <b08y_> awad: i want to be sure that u use the same version and files i am using
[03:52] <hexidigital_> i think i'm going to be sick
[03:52] <tuskernini> czeczt?
[03:52] <_Roman> HOw can I change the items that appear when I right click a file in nautilus (all the 'Open with ..' items)?
[03:52] <LjL> Crescendo: i don't know. it might just be your provider. however, having IPv6 enabled is known to cause the sort of behavior you described in some case. the fact that it started happening suddenly suggests against it, however
[03:52] <hexidigital_> LjL: how is libc significant?
[03:52] <gardar> I'm trying to uptade my ubuntu, but I get this message, what can I do?
[03:52] <Azul> munki3, there must be a howto on google
[03:52] <laz0r> highvoltz, anybody got an idea why my nfs-homes dont show up in /etc/mtab?
[03:52] <gardar> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[03:52] <gardar>   403 Forbidden [IP: 195.248.90.35 80] 
[03:52] <Crescendo> We switched in a new router on the company network about this time, maybe the new router doesn't support IPv6?
[03:53] <LjL> hexidigital_: oh just in the sense that it's a library that almost everything else uses. still the kernel shouldn't crash that way - granted
[03:53] <tuskernini> zax1: http://www.bytebot.net/openoffice/faq.html
[03:53] <LjL> hexidigital_: i'd definitely run a memtest, and check the HD too
[03:53] <laz0r> highvoltz, ugh, sorry, tabcompletion...
[03:53] <munki3> Azul: thanks, looking now
[03:53] <munki3> :)
[03:53] <hexidigital_> LjL: running memtest now... thanks for your help :)
[03:53] <hexidigital_> as always
[03:54] <apachebcn> hi
[03:54] <LjL> hexidigital_: give memtester a try too - if you can manage to boot the system that far - since with one person it detected problems that memtest wouldn't detect (though i'm still unsure whether they were *actual* memory problems)
[03:54] <apachebcn> anybody have soundcard philips psc805 aurilium running in linux???
[03:54] <LjL> hexidigital_: (note that memtester is in general much less reliable that memtest86+, however it can detect problems with RAM that are only triggered by something your running kernel does)
[03:54] <hexidigital_> LjL: it wont even run memtest... keyboard and mouse started flashing
[03:55] <Jowi> Azul, I wouldn't know how hard it would be. maybe they have limited space on the CD. I do agree with you.
[03:55] <caci> MrMist: any results?
[03:55] <twisties> how'd you go munki3?
[03:55] <LjL> hexidigital_: run it from a live CD to make sure it's not a HD problem. still, that definitely seems to say your RAM is bad - or possibly something worse
[03:55] <laz0r> ok, let me paraphrase my question: is there a support channel for feisty?
[03:55] <MrMist> caci: nope... can't find anything
[03:55] <LjL> hexidigital_: but just try a CD (or a floppy, there is a floppy image too on the memtest86+ site)
[03:55] <apachebcn> alguien habla espaol?
[03:55] <hexidigital_> i have a live cd here
[03:56] <LjL> !es | apachebcn
[03:56] <ubotu> apachebcn: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:56] <caci> MrMist: so a CD-audio does not have "Open With" in its properties dialog?
[03:56] <twisties> How long is memtest supposed to take... roughly. <- 2gb DDR400
[03:56] <LjL> hexidigital_: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso anyway is the reference if you come to need it
[03:56] <MrMist> caci: nope... doesn't seem so...
[03:56] <twisties> I ran it and it ran for hours, so i rebooted
[03:56] <awad> b08y_: it's ok man nevermind
[03:56] <hexidigital_> thanks
[03:56] <hexidigital_> LjL: ^^
[03:56] <MrMist> you know... the cdrom is a device, not a file
[03:56] <LjL> twisties: it will take forever. people generally just stop it when they're "satisfied enough"
[03:56] <apachebcn> 4LjL thanks
[03:56] <caci> MrMist: that's sad and a usability bug :-(
[03:56] <b08y_> awad: well it works fine 4 me
[03:56] <laz0r> twisties, ~30 minutes
[03:57] <MrMist> caci: yeah... tell med about it
[03:57] <LjL> twisties: to test thoroughly, some days and nights are recommended. but to spot evident problems, 10 minutes will be more than enough. i'd usually suggest at least a hour if you're not too much in a hurry
[03:57] <laz0r> twisties, but it will loop when it finished
[03:57] <twisties> oh
[03:57] <twisties> that'd be it then
[03:57] <twisties> because everytime i looked the % was lower lol
[03:57] <tuskernini> does anyone know linux mint? it is ubuntu but with codecs...
[03:57] <LjL> !offtopic | tuskernini
[03:57] <ubotu> tuskernini: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:58] <LjL> tuskernini: i believe that codecs are not *too* hard to install in Ubuntu proper
[03:58] <twisties> Ok, all my other problems aside. How the hell do i change from my current kernel to a 64 bit one?
[03:58] <hexidigital_> LjL: memtest off a cd crashed as well... sounds like bad ram?
[03:58] <jedi> hello, i just ran ubuntu update manager.There was a dialog box at the end which read " Some packages could not be downloaded.Do you want to continue ignoring them" - or something similar to that. Help!
[03:58] <twisties> Im on an amd64
[03:58] <tuskernini> LjL: haha good one
[03:58] <beniamino> is there a way to add my customized stuff to whatever the system-wide xsession does?
[03:58] <beniamino> i need to run some scripts on login
[03:58] <MrMist> caci: Gotta work now, but thanks anyway :) I solved the autorun anyhow
[03:58] <Azul> what is ubuntu proper?
[03:59] <tuskernini> LjL: but it helps if you dont have a connection...
[03:59] <LjL> hexidigital_: that, or something else on the motherboard/CPU
[03:59] <hexidigital_> LjL: i think i never shouldve woken up today :)
[03:59] <hexidigital_> thank again
[03:59] <LjL> hexidigital_: open up the case, remove all the RAM, and reseat it back, making sure it's firmly in place. then run memtest again
[03:59] <jedi> What does that dialog box mean - in layaman's terms
[03:59] <hexidigital_> ok
[03:59] <tuskernini> Azul: the normal brown ubuntu version
[03:59] <cac_> hello room
[04:00] <LjL> hexidigital_: how many RAM sticks are in that machine?
[04:00] <mamboadm> does anybody have any idea about sympa?
[04:00] <thomas_> nobody a idea which script is called at putting down the volume level
[04:00] <cac_> http://www.sympa.org/features.html
[04:00] <jenda> Can someone point me at a good howto for doing encrypted flash drive partitions?
[04:01] <junk1> hi all just a fast ?? irrs how do i get to undernet an the ubuntu room?
[04:01] <hexidigital_> LjL: 2.. 1-1024 and 1 512
[04:01] <mamboadm> cac_: yeah i know about it i am having an install issue with configuring the webserver
[04:01] <LjL> jenda: there are several on help.ubuntu.com - i'm actually not sure why there are several
[04:02] <curious101> Hi! Can anyone point me to a URL where I can change Grub to Vista's boot loader?
[04:02] <jenda> LjL: oh well, I'll try poking through that again.
[04:02] <mamboadm> cac_: u know anything about it?
[04:02] <LjL> hexidigital_: well then if memtest still fails after the reseating, i'd obviously try removing the 512 one first, and if it still fails, putting it back and removing the 1gb one instead. sorry for the obviousness ;-) also didn't you by any chance happen to mess with the BIOS, or even just saw the "CMOS reset" message on boot?
[04:02] <Jowi> thomas_, from the command line you can use asoundconf (alsamixer for a text-mode gui or gnome-volume-control for a gnome version)
[04:02] <jenda> LjL: but thx
[04:03] <hexidigital_> LjL: i  havent tinkered with the CMOS since i built it
[04:03] <deg0nz> http://www.youtube.com/stream?s=1179649
[04:03] <cac_> I guess it is not possible since windows does not recognize linux operating system... but linux does recognize windows system so it is easier to have grub or lilo installed...
[04:03] <hexidigital_> LjL: obviousness is okay in my mad rage right now, btw :) brb
[04:03] <thomas_> Jowi, but i want to change the master channel
[04:03] <zehntagebart> my partitions (cryptdisk) are not mounted after reboot. anybody has an idea why? fstab shows for example/dev/mapper/home    /home
[04:03] <zehntagebart> and the /etc/crypttab shows      home     /dev/hda4
[04:03] <evian> I have 5 or 6 older versions of ubuntu in my grub menu, and all I really need now is the most recent. How do I get rid of the old ones?
[04:03] <curious101> oh i see
[04:03] <Crescendo> Nope, LjL - internet is still slow.
[04:03] <zehntagebart> but they are not mounted =(
[04:03] <zehntagebart> using ubuntu edgy
[04:04] <LjL> jenda, if you don't want to boot from it, this one is probably simple and good enough: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GPGKeyOnUSBDrive
[04:04] <thomas_> Jowi, because at the moment my master channel is pcm and so i just put down the pcm channel with pressing the volume down keys on my notebook
[04:04] <junk1> can any one tell me what i need to type in irrs to get to undernet an the room channel ubuntu?
[04:04] <curious101> i found one resource though, but you still have to reinstall Vista to overwrite the boot loader
[04:04] <twisties> edit your grub.conf file and comment out the unwanted entries? maybe, im not an expert
[04:05] <jenda> LjL: that doesn't do - it works with a file, not a partition.
[04:05] <junk1> ok never mind lol
[04:05] <curious101> @twisties, I meant replacing the Grub interface with Winloader
[04:05] <evian> thanks twisties, that would be one way, but then the kernels would still be on the hard drive, which is a bit of wasted space, I was thinking there was a way to do it with some apt related tools
[04:05] <munki3> anyone here willing to give a quick one-on-one
[04:05] <munki3> ?
[04:05] <twisties> curious101: could you do "fixmbr" from a recovery console? im not sure about Vista but you could do it from XP cd
[04:06] <cac_> firsly I install windows and then I install linux in order to catch windows partitions....
[04:06] <curious101> i haven't tried it yet. I might try it later. that's what I also found in google
[04:06] <cac_> since windows partition does not catch linux it is better to do this...
[04:06] <thomas_> Jowi, i think i have found what i was searching for
[04:06] <curious101> thanks twisties
[04:06] <Jowi> thomas_, hmmm.... "amixer sset PCM,0 50
[04:07] <curious101> any alternative ways?
[04:07] <twisties> that of course wont have your linux kernels in a boot menu but it will get rid of grub
[04:07] <munki3> i hve downloaded libmtp-0.1.3.tar.gz, aparently i need this for amarok to use my zen
[04:07] <munki3> what do i do with it
[04:07] <ademan> Synaptic is just a front end to apt-get right?  ( i mean it actually uses it, i know they essentially accomplish the same thing)
[04:08] <thomas_> Jowi, i think i have found a solution thx anyway
[04:08] <LjL> jenda, the point is whether you want to boot from it or not... if you don't, i don't think there's really much of a difference between a file and a partition -- and i suppose the howto uses a file just because it assumes you want to keep your flash key formatted as FAT with other stuff on it
[04:08] <stef> munki3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[04:08] <Jowi> thomas_, yeah, that worked. "amixer sset PCM,0 255" (volume 100%) - "amixer sset PCM,0 0" (volume 0%)
[04:08] <zehntagebart> :(
[04:09] <munki3> stef: thanks
[04:09] <twisties> evian: sorry, im not sur how to get rid of the kernels. but if you know how to install a different one then please help :)
[04:09] <munki3> btw you f or m?
[04:09] <stef> m
[04:09] <munki3> :)
[04:09] <munki3> k
[04:09] <jenda> LjL: no, no booting. But i want a 2 Gig ext3 partition, and that howto dos'nt help me do that - however, this seems to be of some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[04:09] <jenda> LjL: Unless it boils down to luks, which I know doesn't work.
[04:09] <zehntagebart> jenda, booting problems?
[04:09] <ehird> blah, i just ruined boot camp trying to install ubuntu
[04:10] <jenda> zehntagebart: no :)
[04:10] <ehird> more accurately, i have 32gb of unclaimable space, and boot camp won't run again
[04:10] <zehntagebart> but me =(
[04:10] <jenda> zehntagebart: encrypted flashdrive for documents, no more :)
[04:10] <jenda> aww
[04:10] <jenda> zehntagebart: what is the problem?
[04:10] <jenda> ah
[04:10] <jenda> encrypted.
[04:10] <jenda> I can't help with that (0 experience)
[04:11] <LjL> jenda: yes keep in mind that that is only one of *several* of such howto. IIRC there's EncryptedFilesystemHowto2, EncryptedFilesystemHowto3, etc. again, not sure why
[04:11] <thomas_> Jowi, but how should i associate this to the shortcuts ?
[04:11] <ehird> Anybody have >suggestions<?
[04:11] <jenda> LjL: I know. (seems #3 deals with Luks)
[04:12] <jenda> LjL: thx
[04:12] <Jowi> thomas_, in gnome? no idea (I don't use gnome)
[04:12] <LjL> jenda: but, while i've not tried that howto (the first one i referred to i mean), i believe that partitioning the flash drive itself is very simple: it's just like partitioning an IDE drive. that done, i don't believe there's much difference between using a file or an actual partition
[04:12] <thomas_> Jowi, ok than i have to look for a gnome solution
[04:13] <LjL> jenda: and even if there is, you could still just create a huge (2gb) file in a normal partition. not too elegant perhaps, but it'll work... though i don't really believe you'd have to
[04:14] <mamboadm> is the extension on a C program .pid?
[04:15] <foolip> can I list all packages which are *not* autoinstalled, i.e. those that aptitude thinks I really want? I suspect that I have alot of things that should be marked autoinstalled that aren't, that could be removed
[04:15] <kubuntu> hallo
[04:16] <ehird> Ok i installed rEFIt
[04:16] <ehird> hope it works now
[04:16] <ehird> bye
[04:16] <The> test
[04:16] <The> test
[04:16] <LjL> The: succesful
[04:16] <Tux> whois TUX
[04:16] <LjL> foolip: a second
[04:17] <conspiracy> 6
[04:17] <LjL> Tux: try with a leading slash ( / ) - and i suggest you make tests in your status window rather than in channels
[04:17] <LjL> i also suggest avoiding clones
[04:17] <evian> oh twisties, I didn't see your request for help installing a different kernel until just now...
[04:18] <evian> twisties, do you want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, or what?
[04:19] <sorl_> is there really a point for installing 64 instead of 32 bits for a server?
[04:19] <patrick__> !macro
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <forkqueue> sorl_: Yes, especially if you have lots of memory
[04:20] <hexidigital_> LjL: i dont even know where to check next... both memtest failed with the sticks alone (individually)
[04:21] <toty> !backup
[04:21] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:21] <LjL> hexidigital_: hm i was thinking of another (quite remote) possibility. are the HD you were booting from and the CD you booted memtest from on the same cable?
[04:21] <hexidigital_> LjL: no
[04:21] <sorl_> forkqueue, 1gb is what ill be using...
[04:21] <hexidigital_> LjL: change to the same channel?
[04:22] <maddogPT> hi all
[04:22] <LjL> hexidigital_: no... i was thinking maybe a cable problem. but if they're on different cables, no way
[04:22] <hexidigital_> oh
[04:22] <LjL> hexidigital_: it could still be a problem with the motherboard's IDE, perhaps try the floppy
[04:22] <hexidigital_> LjL: no floppy installled
[04:22] <forkqueue> sorl_: Then to be honest you'll probably find there's pretty much no performance difference
[04:22] <LjL> hexidigital_: but it really sounds like a motherboard or CPU problem to me. do you have any spare RAM sticks anyway?
[04:22] <hexidigital_> LjL: i have 1... trying it now
[04:22] <forkqueue> sorl_: But if it were my box I'd install 64bit just because I can :)
[04:23] <maddogPT> can any1 give me a hand? how do i configure my samsung 205bw to display its correct res (1680x1050)?
[04:23] <LjL> hexidigital_: remove all the others of course
[04:24] <hexidigital_> LjL: of course :)
[04:24] <LjL> hexidigital_: also, go to the BIOS and select failsafe settings - try optimal too, if that still fails (at least... most BIOS's i've seen have such defaults)
[04:24] <LjL> hexidigital_: the CMOS could still have been reset for some reason (it happens...) and the BIOS soft settings for RAM gone astray
[04:24] <maddogPT> can any1 give me a hand? how do i configure my samsung 205bw to display its correct res (1680x1050)?
[04:25] <hexidigital_> LjL: i'll check
[04:25] <ssk> hy .. i want to put a ubuntu version , but on my pc i have already a SO (xp) i want to keep bouth ..can  i install something like lilo or something like this to chose what SO to boot ???
[04:25] <hexidigital_> LjL: the new ram stick failed quicker
[04:25] <LjL> hexidigital_: it's *still* quite a remove possibility (if the BIOS detects a checksum error in the CMOS, it normally just resets settings to failsafe defaults automatically), but if we really want to rule out a broken motherboard...
[04:25] <bXi> is there a sed regex which i can use to get the text between te first 2 ' characters ?
[04:26] <semsis> hi is there a way i can play mp3 and dvd on totem in ubuntu 6.10?
[04:26] <ehird> To: non-believers
[04:26] <ehird> From: ehird
[04:26] <j2daosh> hello all, what file containts the timeout setting for ssh connections?
[04:26] <ehird> Yes, Ubuntu 6.10 DOES install perfectly on the new intel macs!!!
[04:26] <ssk> some little help pls
[04:26] <ehird> \o/
[04:26] <OrT> score
[04:26] <__Jenny> hi alll
[04:26] <bulmer> bxi may I suggest bash channel, they are good at that
[04:26] <bitmvnch> ehird: not quite perfectly, but it works.
[04:26] <__Jenny> can some one help me plz
[04:26] <ssk> some little help pls
[04:26] <j2daosh> ehird, ofcourse it does.... why wouldn't it? mac is no longer ppc
[04:26] <ehird> bitmvnch: it's working perfectly here
[04:27] <j2daosh> what do yall need help with?
[04:27] <bulmer> j2daosh: look at /etc/sshd.conf
[04:27] <__Jenny> find -iname *xsession-err* -exec rm {} \;
[04:27] <j2daosh> s/yall/y'all
[04:27] <ehird> j2daosh: Ohh macs don't use PPC now they use intel!! Surely their hardware ust work 100% the same now!!! ... not ...
[04:27] <bitmvnch> ehird: be sure to note that if you don't set up Boot Camp's BIOS emulation, you don't get accelerated video.
[04:27] <__Jenny> can some help me with this : find -iname *xsession-err* -exec rm {} \;
[04:27] <ssk> hy .. i want to put a ubuntu version , but on my pc i have already a SO (xp) i want to keep bouth ..can  i install something like lilo or something like this to chose what SO to boot ???
[04:27] <ehird> bitmvnch: yep, i did
[04:27] <bitmvnch> ehird: well, ubuntu doesn't work perfectly until it doesn't need BIOS emulation. ;)
[04:27] <Jellegant> um.... you mean OS?
[04:27] <awad> what's up? i'm on a fresh ubuntu system and *nothing* works! i downloaded this tool (aircrack-ng from aircrack-ng.org) and tried compiling it, that didn't work: www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt ... then i tried adding se basic software, apt-get install build-essential, apt-get install zsh ... but it complains it can't find any packages. i've asked in all linux channels i could find, and nobody can give me a straight answer, they just tell me to bugger of
[04:28] <bitmvnch>   :(
[04:28] <ssk> yes OS
[04:28] <bulmer> ss: easy, just install your ubuntu, and it will create a menu for you to select
[04:28] <Jellegant> bulmer's right.
[04:28] <ssk> bulmer thx
[04:28] <bitmvnch> ehird: did you not have to install lilo yourself via apt or something? i recall also having to do that step by hand.
[04:28] <__gotcha> I am trying to setup Java 1.5 on dapper drake
[04:28] <ehird> Boto camp-->Live cd + safe gfx (otherwise it messes up)-->lilo+ding dong the grub is dead tutorial-->oops that doesn't work-->install rEFIt-->partitoining tool in rEFIt-->allow it to sync-->"Boot Linux from " without a HD name :P-->lilo menu-->enter-->BOOM UBUNTU
[04:28] <mwe> __Jenny: what kind of help do you want with it?
[04:28] <__gotcha> any pointer to good doc ?
[04:28] <bitmvnch> maybe there is an updated 6.10 iso i should try?
[04:28] <ehird> bitmvnch: yeah, i had to backup+restore the mbr three times :P. then install lilo, but liloconf barfed so i had to manually write one
[04:29] <ehird> and it warned about OMG DOOM when i ran lilo, but after syncing up it works fine
[04:29] <bulmer> __gotcha: try to use synaptic to download it..
[04:29] <__gotcha> 1.4 only
[04:29] <Vlet> It seems that two of the files in http://archive.ubuntu.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc are read restricted to world (403 permission denied)
[04:29] <ehird> however... i havent isntalled video drivers aor anything yet
[04:29] <bitmvnch> ehird: sounds familiar..
[04:29] <rage_> awad: You are missing headers or something.
[04:29] <__gotcha> bulmer:
[04:29] <ehird> <3 1024x768 <3
[04:29] <ssk> bulmer  another question i have intel core duo - i download the ubuntu from the site... that desktop destribution... but i don't now if i have suport for core duo!
[04:29] <ehird> Still, it works good
[04:29] <ehird> ssk: it does
[04:29] <rage_> awad: you need to set up your package sources before you can install stuff.
[04:29] <bulmer> __gotcha: mine shows 1.5  im sure synaptic has it on its list..from the resources
[04:30] <ssk> ehird thx
[04:30] <ssk> by all
[04:30] <Jellegant> QUICK!!  What's the command to check and auto upgrade latest and best Ubuntu version   ---NOT apt-get!
[04:30] <mwe> !java | __gotcha
[04:30] <ubotu> __gotcha: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:30] <ehird> I might write a rough howto if there's demand
[04:30] <sikumkum> hello
[04:30] <rage_> awad: You might well be able to install aircrack from a multivers source.
[04:30] <bulmer> ssk: umm am not sure about the dual core, but why not try it and maybe you can spread the word if it works or not
[04:30] <rage_> awad: Someone might be able to point you at a sources.list generator.
[04:30] <sikumkum> how to apply the patch for edgy that wroten in this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/69239
[04:30] <rage_> !sources.list
[04:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:30] <ehird> things to get working: airport, bluetooth (im not using these crappy usb kb+mouse and wired ethernet), graphics card...
[04:30] <ehird> But eh I'll get it done
[04:31] <rage_> awad: !easysource
[04:31] <awad> i just wanna compile normal s
[04:31] <awad> wait fuck this
[04:31] <awad> i'm installing slackware
[04:31] <ehird> lawl
[04:31] <bulmer> ehird: the desire for those how to seems to never go away..so go ahead
[04:31] <bamtol> ...
[04:31] <sikumkum> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/69239 <-- anyone has tried to patch this
[04:31] <ehird> "I'm a REAL MAN. I'm COMPILING FROM SOURCE.@
[04:32] <floris84> lol
[04:32] <ehird> Is there a way to check what fs type a drive is? the mbr was synched up to a fat32 drive so i'm wondering if it morphed it into fat32 in linux' eyes ;p
[04:32] <bitmvnch> ehird: hum, i had no trouble with airport iirc, only the ati drivers
[04:32] <floris84> btw does anyone know howto add a file to your command search path?
[04:32] <ehird> bitmvnch: it doesnt even show upa s a device here
[04:32] <ehird> mght have to do trickery
[04:32] <ehird> as this is the latest batch of imacs, bought it in december
[04:32] <bitmvnch> ah-ha.
[04:33] <Vlet> two of the files on archive.ubuntu.com are 403 forbidden.. who would be the right person to contact about this?
[04:33] <bitmvnch> one day, this machine will die, and i will cry ;d
[04:33] <bulmer> floris84: you have to add it to your $PATH
[04:33] <soweto76> !EasySource
[04:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:33] <rage_> ehird: lol, yea
[04:34] <bitmvnch> ?ehird: imac has intel extreme graphics, no
[04:34] <bitmvnch> ?
[04:34] <floris84> bulmer: is there a good how-to about that?
[04:34] <sikumkum> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/69239 <-- anyone has tried to patch this bug
[04:34] <sikumkum> i notify the patch hasnt updated into ubuntu package yet
[04:34] <bulmer> ehird: to check what type of FS a hd has, do  a fdisk -l  /dev/hdx    where hdx is the drive
[04:35] <mamboadm> what extension do C programs end in?
[04:35] <foolip> LjL, did you have some idea about listing the not-autoinstalled packages?
[04:35] <bitmvnch> bulmer: that'll tell the partition type, not necessarily the fs type.
[04:35] <ehird> bitmvnch: no
[04:35] <bulmer> floris84: umm you just have to google and find command path bash
[04:35] <ehird> bitmvnch: the low end odel does
[04:35] <ehird> *odel
[04:35] <LjL> foolip: oh i was going to look about that, but i forgot sorry
[04:35] <ehird> Model
[04:35] <floris84> okay will do tnx
[04:35] <bitmvnch> ehird: yours have ATI or NV then?
[04:35] <ehird> but i got the 20@ oone
[04:35] <ehird> so ATI
[04:35] <ehird> ill prolly use the biniary drivers
[04:35] <bitmvnch> we're in the same boat, then
[04:35] <ehird> i need my beryl
[04:35] <bitmvnch> pretty sure you'll have to
[04:36] <bulmer> bitmvnch: umm FS is related to partition type, check the list in fdisk  and you'll see
[04:36] <bitmvnch> hopefully you are Boot Camp-ed right
[04:36] <ehird> well,
[04:36] <bitmvnch> BC does not like tri or quad-boot at all
[04:36] <ehird> boot camp obviously made a fat32 partition
[04:36] <goldeagle> hello, I do upgrade dapper-->edgy, but I have a error, http://sial.org/pbot/22609, I need help, please :)
[04:36] <ehird> so
[04:36] <ehird> i used its gparted to make ext3+swap
[04:36] <ehird> which out of synched it
[04:36] <ehird> and now boot cap complains about the type
[04:36] <bitmvnch> bulmer: not if the partition type is in conflict with the actual filesystem, which it sounds like may be the case for ehird
[04:36] <ehird> but the bios emulation works
[04:36] <ehird> and refit synced it back up so its all good
[04:36] <bitmvnch> ehird: boot camp will always do that, you can't fix it.
[04:36] <ehird> yeah
[04:36] <ehird> guessed so
[04:36] <bitmvnch> BC does not want you to touch the partitions
[04:36] <bitmvnch> period
[04:36] <bitmvnch> it knows
[04:37] <bitmvnch> like santa claus
[04:37] <sikumkum> why no one answering my question
[04:37] <sikumkum> :(
[04:37] <ehird> so, 1984 won't be like 1984... but 2007 will? ;)
[04:37] <__gotcha> ubotu: thanks !!
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks !! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: sorry, not familiar with that patch myself..
[04:37] <ehird> lol@first-mac-advert
[04:37] <bitmvnch> ehird: i think future iterations of BC will improve
[04:37] <bitmvnch> but for now it blows
[04:37] <sikumkum> bitmvnch: i got problem for running stream_select
[04:38] <ehird> Cannot open /dev/sda3
[04:38] <ehird> -- "eff you" disk
[04:38] <LjL> foolip: the output of aptitude search is supposed to show "A" as the third character if a package was installed automatically... hold on, i'll try to give you a full command line
[04:38] <Junkies> does ubuntu support ufs partiton type ?
[04:38] <bitmvnch> Junkies: at least as read, for sure, or at least the linux kernel does last i checked.
[04:38] <ehird> Ok, i need to upgrade pkgs
[04:38] <ehird> libc6 or something has a borked upgrade, right
[04:38] <sikumkum> does anyone has tried the php5-cli with stream_select (openssl required) in ubuntu edgy 6.10 amd64 ?
[04:39] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: ah, php5, on your own
[04:39] <lojikal> sup?
[04:39] <bitmvnch> php5 *and* amd64
[04:39] <bitmvnch> ;d
[04:39] <matsyes> Hi i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on my comp and i want to upgrade to 6.10 however i do not have a working cdrom drive and no net connection on my ubuntu comp It however does have a usb port.I however have access to a net connection on a windows based comp and a usb drive with plenty of space for data transfer.Can anyone please advise me on how to upgrade?
[04:39] <LjL> foolip: "aptitude search ~M". matches all automatically installed packages
[04:39] <lojikal> install the latest ubuntu on that windows machine :) j/k
[04:40] <hexidigital_> is there a program to check the integrity of the hard disks? (not the data, the hardware)
[04:40] <__gotcha> ;-)
[04:40] <sikumkum> bitmvnch: no, its from the original package. the php itself required openssl libsss whereas included in ubuntu itself where it has a bg
[04:40] <sikumkum> *bug
[04:40] <LjL> foolip: "aptitude search \!~M" should match those *not* installed automatically
[04:40] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: not following
[04:40] <_Roman> I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop package into my Ubuntu 6.06 install.  I am having a problem with a library,  I can not install libpoppler1-qt because libpoppler1 is too new (it requires 0..5.1 I have 0.5.3)  I can not downgrade this package as it will uninstall my gnome install.  Does anyone have any solution to this problem?
[04:40] <Junkies> bitmvnch ok
[04:40] <matsyes> lojikal:ummm i really want 6.10 on the other machine :D
[04:41] <bitmvnch> matsyes: why not buy a cheap NIC for that ubuntu machine?
[04:41] <foolip> LjL, a, thanks. I can do my greping and sedding
[04:41] <sikumkum> bitmvnch: any application that required openssl, libssl which installed from apt-get.. mostly went crash
[04:41] <bitmvnch> it's no fun w/o the net anyway
[04:41] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: ah..
[04:41] <matsyes> bitmvnch>:whats nic
[04:41] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: consider downgrading openssl?
[04:41] <bitmvnch> or rebuilding a patched package yourself?
[04:41] <LjL> foolip: no need, those commands i gave you above will just work (i was going to try grepping and sedding too but there's no need really)
[04:41] <bitmvnch> matsyes: Network Interface Card ;)
[04:42] <sikumkum> bitmvnch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/69239 <-- this page told me that ubuntu;s dev should replace the following files
[04:42] <LjL> foolip: you want http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s03.html for more elaborate searches without grep and sed
[04:42] <hexidigital_> LjL: i'm back into my server... but i dont know for how long.. do you know of a hdd checking utility?
[04:42] <foolip> LjL, ok, thanks. the inverse of ~M would be what I'm looking for
[04:42] <bitmvnch> sikumkum: if you don't see that change in ubuntu yet, you can always try applying it yourself
[04:42] <ehird> ... right?
[04:42] <matsyes> bitmvnch:ummm ...:d
[04:42] <LjL> foolip: yes, and that would be \!~M i believe
[04:43] <LjL> foolip: well, it would be !~M, but i guess ! has to be escaped
[04:43] <bitmvnch> matsyes: how does your windows computer get on the internet?
[04:43] <foolip> LjL, sweet
[04:43] <matsyes> but seriously any ideas on how to go about it
[04:43] <apollo2011> Does the legacy nvidia driver provide 3D glx support?
[04:43] <foolip> thanks
[04:43] <bitmvnch> matsyes: seriously, get a cheap NIC.
[04:43] <matsyes> bitmvnch:its at a totally different location
[04:43] <LjL> hexidigital_: i'd use smartmontools for a start
[04:43] <hexidigital_> ok
[04:43] <hexidigital_> thanks
[04:43] <bitmvnch> matsyes: then how might they possibly talk over USB?
[04:43] <bitmvnch> heh
[04:44] <evian> ok I found my answer how to remove multiple old dapper kernels now that I installed edgy, I do:ls sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.15-23*
[04:44] <bitmvnch> oh you just want to dump stuff onto a drive and copy it?
[04:44] <bitmvnch> hrmf.
[04:44] <_Roman> I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop package into my Ubuntu 6.06 install.  I am having a problem with a library,  I can not install libpoppler1-qt because libpoppler1 is too new (it requires 0..5.1 I have 0.5.3)  I can not downgrade this package as it will uninstall my gnome install.  Does anyone have any solution to this problem?
[04:44] <matsyes> bitmvnch:what can i say not an option :P
[04:44] <bitmvnch> good luck with that :/
[04:44] <apollo2011> I used to use the normal nvidia driver but it quit working and I tried installing it from the .bin and it insisted that my graphics card was only supported by the legacy driver so I installed that one and now I have it enabled and X11 works, but when I run Unreal Tournament 2004, it claims that GLX support is missing.
[04:44] <LjL> hexidigital_: "smartctl -A /dev/hdX" will tell you something, though it can be hard to interpret... probably, doing an offline test would be good too ("smartctl -t offline /dev/hdX")
[04:44] <hexidigital_> ok
[04:44] <evian> although I should reboot and see if I didn't destroy my system now
[04:44] <LjL> hexidigital_: anyway now it's running... using what?
[04:44] <bitmvnch> apollo2011: quite possibly true.
[04:44] <matsyes> bitmvnch:i didnt understand the last statement about usb talk
[04:44] <bitmvnch> what happened when it quit working..
[04:45] <bitmvnch> matsyses no matter, i think you're out of luck
[04:45] <heydabop> I'm having problems starting administrative applications. Add/Remove... won't work, niether will update manager, or gksudo gedit. I haven't tried more than that since I updated.
[04:45] <TSWoodV> Hello!  Got a problem with Edgy and a Matrox G400 video card.  Seems that when I (re)boot, I've got the correct 1600x1200 video settings.  After logging out, it reverts at gdm to 800x600 and won't let me set it any higher in Preferences->Screen Resolution.
[04:45] <bitmvnch> consider taking the ubuntu machine somewhere with network for the upgrade?
[04:45] <patrick__> now do i make a app run as soon as i login
[04:45] <sikumkum> gosh
[04:45] <apollo2011> I rebooted about a week ago and then X wouldn't load, I believe the last update before the reboot included a kernel upgrade
[04:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell patrick__ about startup | patrick__, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:45] <ehird> !resolution
[04:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:45] <sikumkum> seems ubuntu was develop from desktop end-user
[04:45] <matsyes> bitmvnch:theres gotta be a way isnt there some way to make the upload thru a uxb boot???
[04:45] <patrick__> sheer
[04:45] <bitmvnch> once, when i was unemployed for an extended time with no internet connection of my own, i would take my laptop to friends' houses to run apt-get upgrade.
[04:46] <hexidigital_> LjL: my 1024 stick and my old 256 stick... i have no idea what's going on here
[04:46] <heydabop> patrick: I think in prefrences there's a startup thing.
[04:46] <bitmvnch> matsyes: the archive for ubuntu is large, i'm not sure how much trouble it would be to try and make it available on a usb drive
[04:46] <bitmvnch> maybe you can download all the available ISOs
[04:46] <ehird> do the binary ati drivers play nice with 64bit?
[04:46] <bitmvnch> ehird: no idea here.
[04:46] <jenda> LjL: I just can't translate that howto to a normal partition... you think you could give me a hand with that? I can't figure out that final cryptsetup command in the 'create the encrypted file' command.
[04:46] <LjL> hexidigital_: weird enough for sure
[04:46] <hexidigital_> LjL: started yesterday when i was at school.. i was SSHed in, and had to reboot the server, and it wouldn't come back up... 2 hours later, i find that the server never completely shut down... it was stuck
[04:47] <matsyes> bitmvnch:hehehe ... but yeah i gota a big usb drive and i have downloaded the iso's
[04:47] <heydabop> I'm having problems starting administrative applications. Add/Remove... won't work, niether will update manager, or gksudo gedit. I haven't tried more than that since I updated.
[04:47] <ehird> Wait, is the normal Desktop edition even 64bit?
[04:47] <bitmvnch> matsyes: well, mount the isos?
[04:47] <bitmvnch> ehird: probably not?
[04:47] <matsyes> bitmvnch:they are all on the usb
[04:47] <jenda> LjL: would that be "sudo cryptsetup -c aes -s 256 -h sha256 -y create usbkey /dev/sda2" or am I getting it totally wrong?
[04:47] <Jowi> ehird, no
[04:47] <ehird> Jowi: oh crap
[04:47] <matsyes> bitmvnch:how do i mount the iso's !!!
[04:47] <bitmvnch> matsyes, sure, mount them as filesystems
[04:47] <ehird> aaaaaaaaaarghm i bet it all craps up when i nistall the 64bit
[04:47] <bitmvnch> same way you mount any block device
[04:47] <Jowi> ehird, what hardware do you have?
[04:47] <mwe> is ctrl-alt-backspace supposed to make Xorg reread xorg.conf or only /etc/init.d/?dm restart?
[04:48] <heydabop> matsyes: What do you mean mount an .iso?
[04:48] <LjL> jenda, right now i don't really know. but i won't mind trying it out myself with my USB key in a moment
[04:48] <Sk8aelf> hmm   i have a kinda simple question if i could get some help.   with ubuntu 6.10 server
[04:48] <LjL> !loop | heydabop, matsyes
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <heydabop> Ask the question.
[04:48] <jenda> LjL: cool, thanks.
[04:48] <LjL> !loopback
[04:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[04:48] <matsyes> bitmvnch:as in 'mount -t vfat *.iso folder
[04:48] <ehird> But when i boot into ubuntu it says about enabling 64bit...
[04:48] <heydabop> LjL: What?
[04:48] <bitmvnch> -t iso9660
[04:48] <heydabop> Oh, ok.
[04:49] <fotoflo3> hey all, im trying to setup a dyndns using ddclient, but ddclient isnt working (and its not telling me why!)     can anyone help?
[04:49] <LjL> heydabop: see above... i got the bot command wrong
[04:49] <Sk8aelf> have lamp server installed  and running  but cannot get proftpd installed   doing everything from the console
[04:49] <heydabop> Ok.
[04:49] <matsyes> heydabop:umm i'm trying to understand too
[04:49] <ehird> [17179569.184000]  hpet0: 3 64-bit timers, 14318180 Hz
 To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[04:49] <Guest8439217> turkce bilern varmi  acil?
[04:49] <heydabop> Matsyse: "<ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn "
[04:49] <TSWoodV> OK, so dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixed my problem.  Why?  Why did the machine boot into 1600x1200 like it should have, but after a logout it reverted to 800x600?  Somehow it had the correct settings to do 1600x1200 in the first place.  Weird...
[04:50] <jenda> LjL: ok, what I said threw a 'command failed: device-mapper: blah blah...
[04:50] <heydabop> I'm having problems starting administrative applications. Add/Remove... won't work, niether will update manager, or gksudo gedit. I haven't tried more than that since I updated.
[04:50] <ehird> Does 64bit still use ubiquity etc
[04:50] <ehird> i.e. graphical
[04:50] <TSWoodV> heydabop: Can you run "sudo -i" and get a root shell?
[04:51] <Jowi> heydabop, sudo -i ?
[04:51] <ehird> if so i might be able to survive, otherwise i think i'll go kill myself before installing ubuntu again
[04:51] <apollo2011> bitmvnch: I rebooted about a week ago and then X wouldn't load, I believe the last update before the reboot included a kernel upgrade, however I was using the Ubuntu package for nvidia. I still don't understand how my graphics card could simply become unsupported by the nvidia driver. Their website still shows that my card is supported by the normal driver.
[04:51] <heydabop> TSWoodV: Just a second.
[04:51] <Sk8aelf> anybody familiar with installing proftpd on unbuntu lamp server ?
[04:51] <__gotcha> both Add/remove Applications and Synaptic show that JRE5 has been installed
[04:51] <ehird> For computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). It is not necessary for all (even most) processors made by AMD -- only their 64 bit chips. <-- Wait, is it only for AD then
[04:51] <ehird> AMD
[04:51] <__gotcha> however, when typing java -version, I still get 1.4...
[04:51] <matsyes> bitmvnch,heydabop:so too cool i can directly mount the iso cool but how do i make it the bootable device
[04:52] <ehird> matsyes: you cant boot from an iso
[04:52] <ehird> burn itt o a disk
[04:52] <matsyes> ehird:thats the prob my cd drive is jacked
[04:52] <TSWoodV> __gotcha: It's not uncommon to have multiple JRE/JDK versions installed simultaneously.  Various applications require specific Java versions.
[04:52] <ehird> matsyes: tough then, get a new one :/... you cant boot from an iso..
[04:53] <fotoflo3> my ddclient.conf is like 8 lines, can anyone help me for a minute?
[04:53] <Menisk> I need some more convicing about why to use ubuntu.
[04:53] <__gotcha> TSWoodV: iow, I should give a full path... any idea how I find where synaptic did the setup ?
[04:53] <ehird> Menisk: if freedom doesn't convince you, just don't use ubuntu, simple
[04:53] <matsyes> ehird:the original question was 'Hi i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on my comp and i want to upgrade to 6.10 however i do not have a working cdrom drive and no net connection on my ubuntu comp It however does have a usb port.I however have access to a net connection on a windows based comp and a usb drive with plenty of space for data transfer.Can anyone please advise me on how to upgrade? '
[04:53] <niklas_e> is all program avalible under amd64 that exists in i386?
[04:54] <ehird> Hmm, is there much benefit to using the 64bit edition?
[04:54] <Menisk> I have used it a fair bit, I have it on my server but I dunno why I should put it on my laptop.
[04:54] <basil> sudo apt-get install proftpd
[04:54] <ehird> Specifically i'm probably going to play some games and use beryl far too much :p
[04:54] <TSWoodV> __gotcha: Which repo(s) did you get your JRE/JDKs from?
[04:55] <__gotcha> TSWoodV:  multiverse
[04:55] <Menisk> I like windows because it does the stuff I want and like ubuntu for the fact it is FOSS and has a lot more support.
[04:55] <jewbilee> hey
[04:55] <Menisk> Hmmmmmm.
[04:55] <jewbilee> What is the name of the Java 5 SDK package?
[04:55] <ehird> Anyone?
[04:56] <rage_> ehird: speed?
[04:56] <mneptok> jewbilee: suh-java5-jdk
[04:56] <rage_> ehird: I would have thought.
[04:56] <mneptok> s/suh/sun/
[04:56] <Menisk> ehird, I have AMD64 on my laptop and it is backwards compatible with 32bit apps.
[04:56] <jewbilee> mneptok: jdk is the development environment?
[04:56] <ehird> Menisk: not in ubuntu i tisn't.
[04:56] <Menisk> It isn't?
[04:56] <Menisk> :(
[04:56] <Menisk> That puts me off 64it ubuntu.
[04:56] <rage_> ?
[04:56] <ehird> Plus, it's more OMG IT TOOK 2 DAYS TO GET UBUNTU INSTalled and working EVEN SLIGHTLY  ON THIS MAC PLEASE KILL ME NOW
[04:56] <Jowi> ehird, the software is compiled for 64bit. you can use the 32bit version fine though.
[04:57] <ehird> Jowi: well, yeah
[04:57] <mneptok> jewbilee: Java Development Kit. basic build and environment tolls. no IDEs or anything.
[04:57] <ehird> but i want to maximise speed, but is it really worth it?
[04:57] <Sk8aelf> anybody have an answer  to this question   ubuntu server 6.10 installed  sudo apt-get install proftpd cannot find packageproftpd  any fix ?
[04:57] <Jowi> ehird, what Mac do you have?
[04:57] <matsyes> ppl any suggestions???
[04:57] <Jowi> !proftpd
[04:57] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[04:57] <rage_> Sk8aelf: apt-get update
[04:57] <Menisk> Jowi in normal day to day stuff you wouldn't really notice the differnce in speed between 64 and 32 bit ubuntu would you?
[04:58] <basil> add extra repositories  for proftpd
[04:58] <Jowi> Sk8aelf, enable universe repo
[04:58] <TSWoodV> __gotcha:  As far as I understand, you just have to make sure that when a particular application needs a particular flavor of Java, that your paths (PATH, CLASSPATH, etc.) are correct for that app.
[04:58] <bulmer> Sk8aelf: suggestion, if the package is available on rpm, use alien to convert and install it...
[04:58] <mneptok> *tools. bah.
[04:58] <basil> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:58] <Jowi> Menisk, I don't know. Have only ever had 32bit CPUs
[04:58] <ehird> Jowi: Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB ra, 2.1GHZ processor, from december
[04:59] <Jowi> ehird, oh ok. running ubuntu on a mac mini core duo (not the core 2 64 bit one)
[04:59] <Menisk> ehird AMD Turion 64 2.0Ghz 512kb L2, 1GB DDR2 533Mhz from december.
[04:59] <Menisk> :P
[04:59] <basil> Sk8aelf  adding  extra repositories  will resolve the issue for installing proftpd
[05:00] <Menisk> I like AMD better than intel.
[05:00] <ehird> Menisk: heh... I like AD too :p
[05:00] <ehird> But apple has a love affari with Intel
[05:00] <Menisk> Other than the fact the blow up with out their heatsink.
[05:00] <ehird> And I hate this keyboard with this laggy fgfx drivers
[05:00] <Menisk> Bad experience with that.
[05:00] <ehird> *gfx
[05:00] <faeryNatsuki> i need some help
[05:00] <y3it221_klce> hi, i need a project for my Final year.., any suggestions??
[05:00] <ehird> Anyway... is there >any< noticable advantage, to people who ahve actually cvedked
[05:00] <ehird> y3it221_klce: um
[05:01] <Menisk> I blew an  AMD Athlon XP 2400+ like that.
[05:01] <Menisk> :P
[05:01] <ehird> yay, exploding processors
[05:01] <ehird> they're like.. .exploding kittens... except processors
[05:01] <Jowi> ehird, you don't have an intel chipset in that one? on the video I mean.
[05:01] <Menisk> Intels are bloody durable though.
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> installing winetools it tries to setup something in /usr/local/bin, but i don't have this folder... which folder is the correct?
[05:01] <TSWoodV> Menisk: I've had about 10 fans fail on the exposed core AMD processors now.  All of them burned up, some quite spectacularly...
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> must i have to create that folder?
[05:01] <Menisk> I put a celeron through the microwave, it can still boot to BIOS.
[05:01] <Menisk> Weird.
[05:01] <heydabop> TSWoodV: Was it you who asked me to get to root terminal?
[05:02] <TSWoodV> heydabop: Yes.
[05:02] <heydabop> Well I got there.
[05:02] <ehird> Jowi: No, I got the leeter mdel with ATI
[05:02] <ehird> *model
[05:02] <TSWoodV> heydabop: OK, now try launching the applications that you couldn't via gksudo.
[05:02] <heydabop> Ok, brb.
[05:02] <onats> hi, how do i install a program which has an extension of .bin? or is that an executable already?
[05:02] <Menisk> ehird: which card does the 1337er model come with?
[05:02] <Jowi> ehird, tough. the intel driver (i810 and up) rock in linux. running Beryl without probs.
[05:02] <ehird> Menisk: ome random ati card
[05:03] <Menisk> .bin is an image
[05:03] <ehird> Jowi: i'm going to install the binary ati drivers oson...
[05:03] <Menisk> :P
[05:03] <ehird> anyyyyyway time to reboot to check out the 64bit version and if ill install it or not
[05:03] <twisties> can anyone tell me how to change to a 64bit kernel?
[05:03] <matsyes> Hi i know i'm repeating myself but ...well ] i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on my comp and i want to upgrade to 6.10 however i do not have a working cdrom drive and no net connection on my ubuntu comp It however does have a usb port.I however have access to a net connection on a windows based comp and a usb drive with plenty of space for data transfer.Can anyone please advise me on how to upgrade?
[05:03] <onats> Menisk, so what do i do with it?
[05:04] <Menisk> ehird: I have ATi Radeon Xpress 1150 in this. It is weird it has 256mb GDDR and 256mb of shared.
[05:04] <Nerd42> HELLO!
[05:04] <Menisk> Well what is it for a start onats?
[05:04] <Menisk> HI!!
[05:04] <onats> google earth
[05:04] <Nerd42> I have a computer that looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ibook12.jpg  and it is giving me an error message when I try to login to ubuntu that looks like this: http://sial.org/pbot/22611
[05:04] <Menisk> You'll need to get a program that can extract a .bin
[05:05] <jm_dev> hi
[05:05] <matsyes> hey
[05:05] <heydabop> TSWoodV: Well, I tried gedit editing my sources.list, and it worked.
[05:05] <jm_dev> Is there any Gnome Planner-Evolution Integration?
[05:05] <Moniker42> hey, i've got some unallocated space split up across my hard drive, can i bring the three together to form one partition with gparted?
[05:05] <onats> menisk, what's a good program to do that?
[05:05] <Menisk> onats, I dunno?
[05:05] <Menisk> !bin
[05:05] <twisties> How do I change to a 64bit kernel?
[05:05] <heydabop> TSWoodV: I forgot update manager command, and I don't know Add/Remove...
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <onats> nice
[05:06] <TSWoodV> matsyes: If your computer will boot from a USB stick, then you can put 6.10 image on the stick and boot from there.
[05:06] <Moniker42> twisties, re-install - with the 64-bit version
[05:06] <Menisk> !.in
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <TSWoodV> heydabop: synaptic
[05:06] <Menisk> !.bin
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <cokeslut> hey
[05:06] <Jowi> onats, you want to install google earth?
[05:06] <Menisk> !images
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about images - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <matsyes> TSWoodV:how do i do that
[05:06] <cokeslut> no
[05:06] <Moniker42> i've got some unallocated space split up across my hard drive, can i bring the three together to form one partition with gparted?
[05:06] <twisties> Am I not able to replace or add another kernel without reinstalling?
[05:06] <Menisk> !anything
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <onats> yes
[05:06] <onats> jowi, yes
[05:07] <matsyes> menisk:thats hilarious :P
[05:07] <Sk8aelf> how do you add in extra repositories   thru the console   ?
[05:07] <TSWoodV> matsyes: You'll need to google to determine how to transfer the .iso to the stick for booting.  It's doable.
[05:07] <Moniker42> twisties, i don't know - i'm not an expert. but probably not. it might be that even if you could do it the easiest thing would be to reinstall with a 64bit version
[05:07] <Menisk> matseyes: What is?
[05:07] <Jowi> onats, in a terminal "chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin" to make it executable. then type "./GoogleEarthLinux.bin"
[05:07] <Moniker42> i've got some unallocated space split up across my hard drive, can i bring the three together to form one partition with gparted?
[05:07] <onats> ooooooooohhkay!
[05:07] <Jowi> onats, that should run the installer for you
[05:08] <onats> so basically, binaries are executables right?
[05:08] <onats> @jowi, thanks
[05:08] <faeryNatsuki> !winetools
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <frogzoo> Moniker42: not easily, no
[05:08] <matsyes> TSWoodV:ok will do that but glad to know the basis for the process thanks a lot!!!
[05:08] <Moniker42> i've got some unallocated space split up across my hard drive, can i bring the three together to form one partition with gparted?
[05:08] <Menisk> matsyes: What;'s hilarious?
[05:08] <Moniker42> frogzoo, k...
[05:08] <Jowi> onats, .bin can be binaries, yes
[05:08] <Jowi> onats, executables i mean
[05:08] <matsyes> Menisk:the response to !anything
[05:08] <Menisk> Meh.
[05:09] <onats> there we ... installing
[05:09] <onats> thanks
[05:09] <onats> newbie in linux
[05:09] <Jowi> np onats
[05:09] <jm_dev> Does anyone know about a gnome-planner/evolution integration?... (planner-eds package doesn't exists for ubuntu)
[05:10] <LjL> jenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2749/
[05:10] <LjL> jenda: i guess what you missed was the reboot
[05:10] <matsyes> TSWoodV:so effectively i have to convert the iso into an image that can be put into an usb and bootable for it btw what filesystem should i choose
[05:11] <twisties> Moniker42: Hmmm, I'd rather not re-install. strange thing is i started with a LIVE cd which installed a generic kernel. the nvidia driver i installed in order to us beryl needed a non-generic kernel so somewhere along the line ive moved to a 386 kernel and now both are in my grub menu. I just hope I can install a 64 bit kernel seeing im on an amd64.
[05:11] <hexidigital> LjL::  i'm sorry to keep pestering you.. smartctl -t offline will output or log the data?  (by the way, -A shows old_age and Pre-fail)
[05:11] <Nerd42> the freaking electricity went out just now
[05:11] <jenda> LjL: I don't think there was a reboot yet...
[05:12] <Nerd42> TERRIBLY SORRY everyone ... I tried to ask a question a while ago ... did anybody respond while the power was out ?
[05:12] <LjL> jenda: i don't know if it's mentioned in the howto... still you need to reboot when my paste says so
[05:12] <jenda> LjL: aha, I missed cfdisk
[05:12] <LjL> jenda: well cfdisk is optional, you can use gparted or whatever you like instead
[05:12] <jenda> LjL: how's that different from making a partition in gparted?
[05:12] <jenda> ok
[05:12] <calvarez> hello! I've a question, are there any F/OSS party games similar to Mario Party or Super Monkey Ball?
[05:12] <apokryphos> does anyone know what bugtracker http://www.cups.org/str.php is?
[05:13] <basil> Sk8aelf    edit    /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <Garito> hi all!
[05:13] <zylche> It adds strength to the bugtracker.
[05:13] <lojikal> anyone good at networking tricks?
[05:13] <LjL> calvarez: i'm not sure what those are, but perhaps there's a game i have in mind that might be similar to that... a second
[05:13] <Garito> how can I install a ubuntu edgy server from alternate cd?
[05:13] <zylche> don't go to int.php, we don't want an ai server!
[05:13] <hexidigital> lojikal::  shouldn't that go to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:13] <hexidigital> lojikal::  or is it specific to troubleshooting?
[05:13] <zylche> hexidigital thats still ontopic, technically ..
[05:13] <calvarez> LjL, they're games where several people can play on the same machine, the screen divides if necessary
[05:14] <tzbishop> please, can anyone help me with the microphone?
[05:14] <Garito> is possible to install the server from an alternate cd of edgy?
[05:14] <hexidigital> zylche::  yeah, i just read tricks :)  my fault
[05:14] <tzbishop> tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080
[05:14] <LjL> calvarez, hm then no, i guess not
[05:14] <calvarez> the closest thing I can find is tuxcart
[05:14] <lojikal> well, it's ubuntu related -- trying to configure a proxy type deal, but i'll try there
[05:14] <glombool> !sound
[05:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:14] <Nerd42> About the channel topic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ doesn't work
[05:15] <hexidigital> lojikal::  no, if it's related to tech issues, ask here... i just read the tricks part, my appologies
[05:15] <Sk8aelf> basil::  did that ..... says error with mime-type   hmm   might be time for a clean load yet again ....
[05:16] <LjL> jenda: mind that the adding of a new user was totally unnecessary with all probability... i just did it because the howto warned about that, but then the howto is about using an encrypted partition *for gpg key storage*, which is not what i've done
[05:16] <jenda> LjL: hehe... I just finished that part, wondering ;)
[05:16] <jenda> LjL: but no matter.
[05:17] <LjL> jenda: oh whoops - i missed something in that log. you need to install cryptsetup, and *then* reboot ;-) the reason you need to reboot is that cryptsetup changes the initrd
[05:17] <jenda> hehe
[05:17] <jenda> I have that.
[05:17] <Garito> is possible to install edgy server with the alternate cd?
[05:17] <jenda> I probably missed that, then, you're right.
[05:17] <tzbishop>  tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png
[05:17] <basil> Sk8aelf ...  was you able to  install proftpd
[05:17] <tzbishop> can anybody help me w/ the mic, please?
[05:17] <arsentop> how would i browse files on a card reader? (vaio tx1hp / edgy buntu)
[05:18] <LjL> jenda: if the error that you had was about devicemapper version incompatible with something and something else - then yes
[05:18] <lojikal> well, i'm trying to take all my ports from my comptuer, socks/vpn/proxy type thing them into one port and tunnel through there (prolly horribly mucking up the vocab there), but its because the connection i'm on only has one port outside the network open to access the computer
[05:18] <lojikal> and i dont' know how to do it
[05:19] <jenda> LjL: not exactly. It was something about ioctl, I think.
[05:19] <tzbishop> can anybody help me w/ the mic, please?
[05:19] <Nerd42> PLEASE HELP ME: I have a computer that looks like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ibook12.jpg minus the mouse, and when I try to login to Ubuntu it gives me an error message that looks like this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/35855
[05:19] <Garito> anyone knows if is possible to install edgy server from alternate cd?
[05:19] <LjL> jenda: hm not sure about that (cannot see the error i had got anymore anyway)... you're on edgy anyway?
[05:19] <LjL> garito: yes
[05:19] <Garito> LjL: thanks! how please?
[05:20] <LjL> Garito: by just doing it. you will be asked what flavor to install during the installation process
[05:20] <Garito> and what choose?
[05:20] <LjL> !ask | tzbishop
[05:20] <ubotu> tzbishop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:20] <LjL> Garito: what about "server"? ;)
[05:20] <Garito> aja
[05:20] <Garito> but in the menu?
[05:20] <LjL> Garito: what menu?
[05:20] <Garito> I'm a little newbie
[05:21] <Garito> the boot one
[05:21] <Garito> oem installation
[05:21] <Garito> other options...?
[05:21] <Sk8aelf> basil...  negative    gedit failed   seems there is no application to open sources.list
[05:21] <ultraNOOB> hi all
[05:21] <ultraNOOB> how do i know if i have libio-socket-ssl-perl  installed?
[05:21] <tzbishop> I have a mic working on windows but i can't make it work on ubuntu. tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png -> that's the screenshot of the mixer.
[05:21] <LjL> Garito: hmm, it's either just "Enter" or type "server" and then Enter
[05:21] <Garito> ok
[05:21] <LjL> Garito: try "server"
[05:21] <Nerd42> PLEASE HELP ME: I have a computer that looks like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ibook12.jpg minus the mouse, and when I try to login to Ubuntu it gives me an error message that looks like this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/35855
[05:21] <Garito> Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
[05:21] <Garito> see ya
[05:21] <basil> Sk8aelf  use   vi
[05:22] <LjL> tzbishop: it's not selected for recording
[05:22] <LjL> tzbishop: look at those red switches
[05:22] <bugihugi> lojikal: you want to look for openvpn
[05:22] <tzbishop> LjL: which one should be red?
[05:22] <LjL> tzbishop: "Mic"
[05:22] <LjL> tzbishop: it's the lights at the bottom
[05:23] <tzbishop> LjL: only mic?
[05:23] <LjL> tzbishop: click on the Mic one, and it'll become bright red
[05:23] <LjL> tzbishop: yes
[05:23] <Crema10> Eric B and Rakim
[05:23] <lojikal> bugihigi: thanks, i didn't knwo where to start looking for software, i'll check it out
[05:23] <Sk8aelf> basil:.. ok gimmie a min or so ill try that  i do appreciate the help
[05:24] <Joffrey> hello has anyone experience with LTSP on 6.10 ?
[05:24] <selecta_g> hello room - can someone tell me; how do I kill an unresponsive window? Ta
[05:24] <Jowi> selecta_g, run xkill then click on it
[05:24] <tzbishop> LjL: http://tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/8.png
[05:24] <selecta_g> thank you Jowi
[05:24] <tzbishop> LjL: and those buttons, are they correct?
[05:24] <SHRIKEE> http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_pageranking_and_stats_flawed
[05:24] <tzbishop> LjL: http://tzbishop.homelinux.net:8080/7.png    (updated)
[05:25] <LjL> tzbishop: yes, like that
[05:25] <Joffrey> hello has anyone experience with LTSP on 6.10 ?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> LjL: are we sure about this?
[05:25] <ultraNOOB> Hey everyone, ive just sent google my resume, hosted on my LAMP server, but i just found out that my DDclient isnt working and i have no resolvable IP... can anyone help me out with ddclient? ive been playing with the conf, but i dont really know how to troubleshoot it...
[05:25] <lojikal> bugihugi, would i run the openvpn on the client or the server?
[05:26] <tzbishop> LjL: i can't hear the echo anymore
[05:26] <_rogue780> !paste
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:26] <Jowi> Joffrey, that question is very vague. you better rephrase it and include more details of your problem if you want someone to answer
[05:26] <LjL> gnomefreak, about what?
[05:26] <TI> alguem sabe como entrar no PTB
[05:27] <LjL> !pt | ti
[05:27] <ubotu> ti: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:27] <LjL> tzbishop: hm? the "echo" should be controlled by the green light
[05:27] <molina> hola
[05:28] <tzbishop> LjL: skype test call failed
[05:29] <Nerd42> PLEASE HELP ME: I have a computer that looks like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ibook12.jpg minus the mouse, and when I try to login to Ubuntu it gives me an error message that looks like this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/35855
[05:29] <Nerd42> what can i do to fix that?
[05:30] <Joffrey> i'm working with Ubuntu 6.10 and i have allready installed LTSP and so on. when i try to login with a user that is correct the screen goes black and after a few seconds it returns to the loging screen can anyone help me please
[05:30] <eniac_petrov> hi all
[05:31] <eniac_petrov> please help
[05:31] <eniac_petrov> I can't install nvidia-glx package
[05:31] <eniac_petrov> nvidia-glx:
[05:31] <eniac_petrov>  Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629
[05:31] <eniac_petrov> . I have commercial drivers, but...
[05:32] <hexidigital> eniac_petrov::  did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:32] <eniac_petrov> hm, no..
[05:32] <eniac_petrov> 10x..
[05:32] <hexidigital> eniac_petrov::  did apt-get install nvidia-glx install it?
[05:32] <_rogue780> I am trying to make a script run with lirc. It used to work, but now it doesn't. at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2751/ are an excerp of the instructions I followed. can someone please help? when I press the button on my remote nothing happens, even when I try to just run the script nothing happens.
[05:33] <Joffrey> i'm working with Ubuntu 6.10 and i have allready installed LTSP and so on. when i try to login with a user that is correct the screen goes black and after a few seconds it returns to the loging screen can anyone help me please
[05:34] <Taime1> how do i tel firefox to use a diferent version of java?
[05:34] <truff> hi, I'm trying to install proftpd on my ubuntu edgy server but apt seems to not find it. what can I do ?
[05:34] <rebz> is wine's channel #wine ?
[05:34] <rebz> theres hardly anyone in there
[05:34] <OrT> cedega?
[05:34] <pbureau> morning to all
[05:34] <rebz> no thanks, i'm into the free thing ;)
[05:34] <CheshireViking> rebz: #winehq
[05:34] <hexidigital> truff::  did you run apt-get update?
[05:34] <danimanin> winehq
[05:34] <eniac_petrov> pbureau, morning?? (19:40 PM ) :D
[05:35] <eniac_petrov> I am GMT +2 ....
[05:35] <Taime1> its morning here...
[05:35] <truff> no what does this command ?
[05:35] <hexidigital> truff::  sudo apt-get update
[05:35] <Jowi> _rogue780, run "irw" and press the button you wish to use for your script. see that the name of the button correspond to the one in .lircrc
[05:35] <Amaranth> arsentop: Isn't tifm_sd only for Ti card readers?
[05:35] <hexidigital> truff::  if updates the package list in apt
[05:35] <eniac_petrov> hexidigital, the APT guives me that message: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:35] <eniac_petrov>   nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629
[05:35] <truff> hexidigital ok I'm running it
[05:35] <Amaranth> !nvidia9 | eniac_petrov
[05:35] <ubotu> eniac_petrov: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[05:35] <Taime1> how do i tel firefox to use a diferent version of java?
[05:36] <arsentop> possibly :x
[05:36] <_rogue780> Jowi, already done that
[05:36] <eniac_petrov> :D cool bot! :)
[05:36] <arsentop> only info i could find, adjust it for that ;)
[05:36] <lovloss> how can i igure out which libraries trigger gtk or qt when im programming? Every tutorial points to different libraries and such, and they cant seem to be found when i #include them
[05:36] <eniac_petrov> Amaranth, 10x :)
[05:36] <_rogue780> Jowi, it was working, but then it pretty much just stopped
[05:36] <Jowi> _rogue780, so the name of the button is really "Power"?
[05:37] <Jowi> _rogue780, ah, it was working before. what made it stop working?
[05:37] <_rogue780> shawn@NESPC:~$ irw 00000000000017bd 00 Power Hauppauge_350
[05:38] <_rogue780> Jowi, I dont know. figured something got corrupted, so I actually reloaded and fixed some other problems, but I couldn'tg et it to work at all
[05:38] <Jowi> _rogue780, is irexec running?
[05:38] <truff> hexidigital it works now, many thanks :)
[05:39] <Nerd42> PLEASE HELP ME: I have a computer that looks like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ibook12.jpg minus the mouse, and when I try to login to Ubuntu it gives me an error message that looks like this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/35855
[05:39] <hexidigital> truff::  :) no problem
[05:39] <deltaray2> Bash in Ubuntu Edgy seems to be doing some sort of context aware tab completion.  Is there a way to turn that off?  Its driving me nuts.
[05:39] <Nerd42> omg i cant believe this i am going nuts here
[05:39] <Nerd42> i need to get this laptop WORKING
[05:39] <deltaray2> Nerd42, you need to calm down.
[05:39] <_rogue780> Jowi, shawn@NESPC:~$ ps aux | grep irexec   shawn     5101  0.0  0.0   1604   320 ?        Ss   11:34   0:00 irexec -d
[05:40] <Nerd42> ok. well just getting into this chan has been a problem today
[05:40] <Jowi> _rogue780, terminate all processes or irexec. run "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart" to see if you get any errors
[05:41] <pbureau> Nerd42,  sorry man no idea
[05:41] <Nerd42> Did anybody even look at the error message i got?
[05:41] <apokryphos> Amaranth: go for it
[05:41] <xmOD> hey
[05:41] <xmOD> i have a very big prob
[05:41] <Nerd42> ok well thanks for at least looking, pbureau
[05:41] <Amaranth> apokryphos: not an op
[05:41] <robertj> hey all, is there a way to see the ctime or mtime in seconds of a file?
[05:42] <Nerd42> (pbureau, sorry about the lag)
[05:42] <apokryphos> Amaranth: you can set it now, though :)
[05:42] <Joffrey> i'm working with Ubuntu 6.10 and i have allready installed LTSP and so on. when i try to login with a user that is correct the screen goes black and after a few seconds it returns to the loging screen can anyone help me please
[05:42] <mustaukko> Nerd42: It's getting late here, but lets take a look..
[05:42] <xmOD> i had changed my MBR to load grub first instead of the windows loader.. now i wanna put it back to loading windows bootloader at startup instead of grub.. currently am logged in through live cd
[05:42] <_rogue780> Jowi, no errors
[05:42] <xmOD> please please help
[05:43] <Nerd42> Hey ... how do ... you make um ... macs boot to CDs ?
[05:43] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Do you know how to use the prompt?
[05:43] <Amaranth> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | libc6 problems? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2057713
[05:43] <xmOD> my linux hdd has crashed and i cant log in anymore
[05:43] <Amaranth> ack
[05:43] <mustaukko> Nerd42: I mean, can you get to the terminal?
[05:43] <Amaranth> apokryphos: cool
[05:43] <apokryphos> nice
[05:43] <xmOD> please someone help.. i cant do anything on my comp
[05:44] <Nerd42> mustaukko: No ... I'm a Windows / DOS guy ... i dont know what all the commands are in linux
[05:44] <Nerd42> and i dont know how to get it to bring up the prompt
[05:44] <Taime1> whats wrong xmod?
[05:44] <mustaukko> Yeah, but you do get there, right? I can go through the commands with you.
[05:44] <mustaukko> ok
[05:44] <xmOD> @Taimel: i had changed my MBR to load grub first instead of the windows loader.. now i wanna put it back to loading windows bootloader at startup instead of grub.. currently am logged in through live cd
[05:44] <Nerd42> ok
[05:44] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Is the computer on atm?
[05:44] <Nerd42> well ... 1 sec here - i just burned another ubuntu cd (version 1 6)
[05:44] <xmOD> i did it with the help of a friend and i dont remember any steps
[05:45] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Do you have the error there in front of you?
[05:45] <Nerd42> er .. no at the moment it is busy trying to boot to another ubuntu CD
[05:45] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok. see how that goes then. :)
[05:45] <Nerd42> should i turn it off and try to get the prompt instead?
[05:45] <Taime1> why do you want the windows bootloader?
[05:45] <Nerd42> ok ... fancy start up noise just happened
[05:46] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Nah, you planning to reinstall anyways, it seems. :D
[05:46] <Nerd42> Whats "on atm" mean ?
[05:46] <mustaukko> Nerd42: AtTheMoment.
[05:46] <xmOD> cause my linux hdd crashed and now wheneva comp starts, it tries to load grub which cannot be accessed and so i cant log in anywhere on any os
[05:46] <Nerd42> mustaukko: I only started trying that when it seemed that nobody was answering
[05:46] <Taime1> i see... so there is no botloader present
[05:46] <Jowi> _rogue780, just to verify that the myth script actually works. how about replacing config = /usr/local/bin/mythpowerbutton.sh" with "config = echo test &" and restart irexec in a terminal then press the power button. "test" should be printed in the terminal each time you press it.
[05:46] <Taime1> boot*
[05:46] <Nerd42> mustaukko: On the CD I was using before, reinstalling didn't help - the same message still came up
[05:46] <Nerd42> OH CRAP !!!
[05:46] <Joffrey> i'm working with Ubuntu 6.10 and i have allready installed LTSP and so on. when i try to login with a user that is correct the screen goes black and after a few seconds it returns to the loging screen can anyone help me please
[05:47] <Nerd42> the same !@$##%@#^#$% message came up on this new CD
[05:47] <bbird> Hi. I have a problem with my (k)ubuntu edgy. The wireless network interface seems to work correctly, but it is not able to connect to the wireless network of my office
[05:47] <mustaukko> Nerd42: You see, like in windows you have system eventlog, in linux you have /var/log/ folder that contains a heap of log files.
[05:47] <xmOD> taimel: the grub is configured as the bootloader and i wanna put the windows loader back there so that i can atleast log into windows
[05:47] <Taime1> well, in my opinion, the easiest thing to (since i dont know how to load the windows boot loader) is to reinstall grub the the MBR
[05:47] <Nerd42> ah
[05:47] <Nerd42> ok and u are wanting to go see what those say ?
[05:47] <hamre_> excuse me, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, i'm trying to compile a program but i get many error messages: www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt ... i've tried edited /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get install build-essential but it keeps telling me it can't find any packages...
[05:47] <Taime1> then, grub will find windows at bootup
[05:47] <mustaukko> Nerd42: I'd like you to go through these log files, and we could check out what they contain.
[05:47] <Nerd42> OK! :)
[05:47] <Taime1> and whala! you are in windows
[05:47] <mustaukko> Nerd42: So this is a fresh install?
[05:48] <mamboadm> how do i script alias something?
[05:48] <Nerd42> mustaukko right now its running off a cd
[05:48] <xmOD> well u dont understand.. there is NO grub.. NO linux HDD, my comp looks for something that aint present
[05:48] <Nerd42> and taking forever
[05:48] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Ok, no install, just the livecd. You are trying it out, thinking about install. :) Bad start for ubuntu!
[05:48] <bbird> Can you help me ? I used the network settigs interface to set the ESSID and the wep key, the "DHCP" server doens't reply.
[05:48] <Nerd42> er ... why ?
[05:48] <Nerd42> er no wait
[05:49] <Taime1> grub can be installed to the mbr
[05:49] <Nerd42> its on livecd RIGHT NOW - i was getting the message before running form the hard drive
[05:49] <bbird> In my office, all computers work correctly with that wirelesse network
[05:49] <xmOD> taimel: even if i dont have linux loaded?
[05:49] <Taime1> it doesnt have to be installed on the root partition of your linux hd
[05:49] <mustaukko> Nerd42: It takes long for it to start from cd, because it needs to load a lot more over slower media than from hard disk.
[05:49] <Taime1> absolutely
[05:49] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok, great!
[05:49] <Taime1> its a bootloader
[05:49] <xmOD> taimel: how how?
[05:50] <Taime1> what live cd are you using?
[05:50] <xmOD> i wanna load it at hd(0,0)
[05:50] <xmOD> ubuntu
[05:50] <mustaukko> Nerd42: It's edgy (6.10) right?
[05:50] <Taime1> doesnt it have an option to reinstall grub?
[05:50] <_rogue780> Jowi, would that send it to a ssh terminal?
[05:50] <smultron> is anyone good with Xorg configuration? I can't get my 1440x900 display to work...
[05:50] <xmOD> no
[05:50] <Crescendo> Is there a way to stream media from Rhythmbox to a shoutcast server?
[05:50] <Nerd42> ok i opened a terminal window
[05:50] <Taime1> does anyone know how to reinstall grub in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Jowi> _rogue780, did it print "test" when you pressed the power button on the remote?
[05:50] <xmOD> taimel: lol
[05:50] <Taime1> yeah yeah
[05:50] <mustaukko> Nerd42: then do a sudo bash and put in your passwd
[05:51] <Jowi> _rogue780, I doubt it
[05:51] <Nerd42> mustakko: no this is 6.06
[05:51] <tsmithe`> is someone being me?
[05:51] <tsmithe`> (not me)
[05:51] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok
[05:51] <Taime1> ive done it in mepis...
[05:51] <hexidigital> LjL::  thanks for all your help... i *think* my hdds are failing... my ram is OK, as is my video card, and others i could think of replacing
[05:51] <Nerd42> mustaukko: um ... er ... the "LTS" one on the web site
[05:51] <Taime1> there is a really cool option to reinstall grub
[05:51] <mustaukko> Nerd42: lets see..
[05:51] <hamre_> excuse me, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, i'm trying to compile a program but i get many error messages: www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt ... i've tried edited /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get install build-essential but it keeps telling me it can't find any packages...
[05:51] <hamre_> can somebody  help?
[05:51] <Nerd42> IF you think i should go with 6.10 i could try that instead
[05:52] <bbird> where can I find some network log..
[05:52] <xmOD> I know this can be done.. it can be done through the terminal, we can install windows loader on the first slot of the MBR..  but HOW???!!!
[05:52] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Well, I took 6.10, and I've lived to tell the story. :)
[05:52] <Nerd42> lets go with what i've got for now
[05:52] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Real life, not much difference. Server's and critical stuff... a lot of difference.
[05:53] <Nerd42> a whole bunch of error messages popped up when i started
[05:53] <Nerd42> i said "dont delete" on all of them
[05:53] <faeryNatsuki> hi again
[05:53] <Taime1> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[05:53] <mustaukko> Nerd42: yeah, the fault is not in lts
[05:53] <Nerd42> ok
[05:53] <giulius> ciao a tutti, qualcuno che mi pu aiutare in italiano?
[05:53] <_rogue780> Jowi, nothing happenes
[05:53] <faeryNatsuki> any suggestion for DVD burner as good as k3b but for gnome?
[05:53] <mustaukko> Nerd42: What kind of errors?
[05:53] <OrT> no :] 
[05:53] <Nerd42> i am looking at the terminal window now ...
[05:53] <smultron> i've tried everything to get my display working, but still doesn't work. here's my forum post of the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2038404#post2038404
[05:53] <Taime1> gnome3b?
[05:53] <Jowi> _rogue780, why did you ask if it would echo to ssh?
[05:53] <Taime1> just kidding
[05:53] <Nerd42> er "This applet doesn't work, that applet doesn't work" plus the same ones I pasted before
[05:53] <mustaukko> Nerd42: have you typed 'sudo bash' already?
[05:53] <Nerd42> um 1sec
[05:54] <Nerd42> ok i typed that
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> gnome3b?
[05:54] <Taime1> i was kidding
[05:54] <_rogue780> I'm sshed into the box, due to lack of keyboard
[05:54] <Nerd42> the prompt changed from a -$ to a -#
[05:54] <Taime1> sorry
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> :P
[05:54] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok, those applets that it's talking about are applets that are on the gnome-toolbar.
[05:54] <_rogue780> Jowi, my last was to you
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> !DVD
[05:54] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:54] <Nerd42> which, as a MS-DOS 6.2 user, officially makes my head explode
[05:54] <Sk8aelf> basil:  used vi   still gettin an error
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> !burner
[05:54] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:54] <Nerd42> mustaukko: yeah thats what it said
[05:54] <mustaukko> Nerd42: yeah, great. Now you are running the terminal with root (superuser) rights. It's like the administrator in windows.
[05:54] <faeryNatsuki> wich is better?
[05:55] <Nerd42> k ;)
[05:55] <faeryNatsuki> excuse me, which
[05:55] <Nerd42> "sudo bash" - i should remember that command ;)
[05:55] <xmOD> taimel: how do i get that grub promt?
[05:55] <Jowi> _rogue780, ok, I just tried executing irexec from an ssh session and it does not work for me (nothing happens here as well)
[05:55] <SnakeDiver> What's a 'Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block' error mean?
[05:55] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok, lets go take a look at those logs.. (with sudo, you can run any command you like with root rights.)
[05:55] <Jowi> _rogue780, gotto go. good luck.
[05:55] <Taime1> so, xmod, i hope that grub tutorial at least lhelps you to be able o boot into windows... then you can take it from there...at least you will have an operatin system
[05:55] <Taime1> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[05:55] <_rogue780> Jowi, thanks
[05:56] <mustaukko> Nerd42: type 'cd /var/log'
[05:56] <mustaukko> Nerd42: and then 'ls'
[05:56] <Taime1> piece of crap keyboard
[05:56] <xmOD> taimel: wat does that native environment mean?
[05:56] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ls is the command that lists things. like dir in dos.
[05:56] <Jowi> _rogue780, at least your remote is working according to irw. c u
[05:56] <Nerd42> ok
[05:57] <mustaukko> Nerd42: by the way, you have tab-completion, so when unsure couple of tabs shows you options.
[05:57] <Nerd42> ok i see a buncha folders
[05:57] <mustaukko> Nerd42: and a couple of files too i hope.
[05:57] <mustaukko> namely ones that start with Xorg
[05:58] <giulius> who can help me with my wireless?
[05:58] <Nerd42> "Display all 1865 possibilities? (y or n)" I think thats a bit too much information
[05:58] <Nerd42> er um some of the names are black and some are blue
[05:58] <pike_> xmOD: might try http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ for a quick fix also
[05:58] <mustaukko> Nerd42: type in 'cat Xorg.* |grep EE'
[05:58] <Nerd42> are the black ones files and the blue ones directories / folders ?
[05:59] <pike_> xmOD: assuming you have a floppy drive
[05:59] <biegl__> hey peoples
[05:59] <Nerd42> see, thats why normal people liek "Somebody's Mom" will never use linux in its current form
[05:59] <xmOD> pike: no floppy drive.. i mean i got one but does'nt work :-(
[05:59] <Unt0uchable> sup ubuntu folks?
[05:59] <Nerd42> there is no way that a normal person would spend time typing in stuff like that which is totally unEnglishlike
[05:59] <Nerd42> anyway :) i did it
[06:00] <Nerd42> it says "system error: last item seen: X"
[06:00] <mustaukko> Nerd42: cat is the command that just prints files to screen. grep is a program that selects stuff from something. in linux you can pipe these together and do amazing stuff.
[06:00] <Nerd42> "Garbled time"
[06:00] <Jowi> _rogue780, found something that does work btw. instead of "echo test &" set it to "touch /home/yourusername/remotepress &". run irexec from ssh. press pwer button. ctrl-c to end irexec and see if the file remotepress is in your homedir. *now* I really need to go
[06:00] <Nerd42> ok
[06:00] <dromer> how do I run a .jar file?
[06:00] <glombool> !sound
[06:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:00] <mustaukko> Nerd42: yeah, I know it's a hard to get hold of, but once mastered, you really don't want to go through all the data without grepping the relevant data fomr it.
[06:01] <Nerd42> its liek "You have no chance to survive make your time"
[06:01] <Vom> Jowi, yey.
[06:01] <smultron> any monitor help? 1440x900 acts very strangely... please don't make me re-install windows :(
[06:01] <mustaukko> Nerd42: type in 'cat Xorg.* |grep EE' WITH CAPITAL EE
[06:01] <_rogue780> Jowi, thanks a bunch
[06:01] <Vom> Now I have ubuntu on a DVD, all backups done and so on :-)
[06:01] <Vom> We're soon ready to roll!
[06:01] <mustaukko> smultron: what's the issue?
[06:01] <smultron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2038404#post2038404
[06:01] <smultron> there it i
[06:01] <smultron> s
[06:02] <datachild> how do i "make install" in fluxbuntu?
[06:02] <Nerd42> hey wait ... thats the last thing i typed in before
[06:02] <OrT> there's a fluxbuntu?
[06:02] <OrT> is it like lower on resources than xubuntu?
[06:02] <vittorio> i have eth0 as my only network device (and lo). how can i change this to be eth1 (so theres no eth0) ?
[06:02] <Nerd42> it printed out a buncha stuff
[06:02] <fr500> hello
[06:02] <giulius> ubuntu 6.10 crash with my wireless usb :-(
[06:02] <Nerd42> including "Xorg: no such file or directory"
[06:02] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok, did you type it with correct capitals?
[06:02] <fr500> i installed vmware-server on a headless server (no xserver or anything)
[06:03] <fr500> show can i access it?
[06:03] <Nerd42> Directories! I remember "directories"! I always thought calling them "folders" was stupid
[06:03] <mustaukko> Nerd42: hmm. strange.
[06:03] <Nerd42> yeah
[06:03] <arsentop> anyone recommend a tool for formatting my micro SD card in inbuilt card reader
[06:03] <arsentop> i can access the card ( mountable etc already)
[06:03] <pibarnas> hi folks, I've just installed edgy and spent almost 2 h waiting for upgrading packages... but there are 2 that I can't have upgraded: libc6-i686_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb and libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb. The error: 403 Forbidden [IP: 195.248.90.35 80] . Any ideas?!?
[06:03] <xmOD> ok can someone tell me if this'll work for me? Mount windows drive and then install grub on hd0(windows drive)?? will this boot windows for me?
[06:03] <smultron> mustaukko: seen anything like it?
[06:03] <dromer> how do I run a .jar file?
[06:03] <mustaukko> Nerd42: So, type in 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'
[06:04] <dan-erik_> Today I have set up a new linux community at http://www.ubuntusociety.org/ if anyone want to join. Not only forum, there is also blog, guestbook, and so on... Need help with people writing articles and publishing content.
[06:04] <datachild> pibarnas; you have the error already, forbidden ip?
[06:04] <dromer> !jar
[06:04] <mustaukko> smultron: yeah, I had one of these issues in the past..
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <mustaukko> smultron: has it worked for you previously?
[06:04] <pibarnas> datachild nope. it's happening the first time.
[06:04] <mustaukko> smultron: Or is this a fresh install and it just did not work?
[06:04] <datachild> how do i like "make && make install" in fluxbuntu? anyone?
[06:04] <xmOD> pike: tell me if this'll work for me? Mount windows drive and then install grub on hd0(windows drive)?? will this boot windows for me
[06:05] <mustaukko> smultron: because in my case the problem was in the drivers I was using.
[06:05] <tapas> what's an lrm filesystem?
[06:05] <pike_> xmOD: no need to mount but yes you can do like:   grub> root(hd1,0)   <-- this is the partition with ubuntu installed then setup(hd0)  or hd1 whichever hd is setup to boot in your systems bios
[06:05] <nivekz> Hi, there. I have root account and i want to share a folder (including its sub) but those ***-ftpd are too advanced to be secure for me. are there any easy way to share it?
[06:05] <mustaukko> smultron: I had a lcd that went to 1600x1200 and just got measly 1280x1024 of it.
[06:05] <pibarnas> datachild I'd like to install other softwares, but I'm afraid this library lack mess up my system...
[06:05] <smultron> mustaukko: i've only been able to get it working in windows. i've been trying every distro i could download, and none support my card/monitor
[06:06] <mustaukko> Nerd42: What did it tell you?
[06:06] <Nerd42> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[06:06] <pike_> xmOD: the recover howto gives a better explanation of that
[06:06] <Nerd42> 1 sec
[06:06] <hamre_> i'm in ubuntu and cannot compile anything. i did an apt-get install linux-kernel-headers but still things won't work.
[06:06] <datachild> yeah, looks weird.. pibarnas
[06:06] <mustaukko> smultron: Which card is that?
[06:06] <Lunar_Lamp> hamre_, did you install build-essential ?
[06:06] <datachild> hamre_, apt-get install g++ ?
[06:06] <pibarnas> datachild It's like a server problem, but I can't find these packages anywhere...
[06:06] <Lunar_Lamp> !build-essential
[06:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:06] <snail> hamre_: "apt-get install build-essential"
[06:06] <Nerd42> what the crap is xorg anyway? doesn't it have to do with graphics somehow? sounds like a rejected Star Trek plot
[06:06] <mustaukko> smultron: Linux does support many kinds of resolutions, but card drivers vary.
[06:07] <pike_> xmOD: in other words you can install grub to whatever hard driver mbr you wish regardless of which driver ubuntu is on
[06:07] <datachild> maybe they are old as hell?, i've got no idea pibarnas
[06:07] <xmOD> pike: at present i dont have any linux OS on my comp as the linux HD crashed leaving grub in MBR
[06:07] <Nerd42> Invalid operation policy
[06:07] <bitmvnch> is there a new fstab format?
[06:07] <Nerd42> lemme check if i spelled it right
[06:07] <_rogue780> Jowi, I got it working. I found out that openbox had to be the last thing executed. go figure... anyway I hope you get this messag
[06:07] <smultron> mustaukko: some integrated intel one... old machine
[06:07] <mustaukko> smultron: if you do a 'lspci' what does it tell you?
[06:07] <_rogue780> e
[06:07] <mustaukko> smultron: intels should be supported.. let me check
[06:07] <Nerd42> oh
[06:07] <pibarnas> datachild It seems they're too new...
[06:07] <hamre_> snail: it says something about there not being any installation candidate for that package
[06:07] <Nerd42> I did it wrong before
[06:08] <barra> so , I updated dapper to edgy, everything seems fine , except for this one issue, if I close the lid on my laptop and it supends, when I open the lid again my wireless doesn't reconnect. any ideass??
[06:08] <frogzoo> bitmvnch: yes, it's same as the old format, but with UUIDs instead of device names
[06:08] <Nerd42> my "C" key is messed up
[06:08] <hamre_> i don't know the exact meaning i'm using a norwegian locale
[06:08] <datachild> pibarnas, but every other package works?
[06:08] <_rogue780> how do I become an editor of the wiki?
[06:08] <xmOD> pike: I just need a little help.. jus tell me how i can install grub on hd0 to boot windows? or how can i install the windows bootloader back into MBR??? the second option is preferred by me if u can help
[06:08] <bitmvnch> frogzoo: where do the UUIDs come from?
[06:08] <pibarnas> datachild well, I can't see problems...
[06:08] <frogzoo> bitmvnch: it's part of the label
[06:08] <Nerd42> OK it says "M Unable to locate package server - M Unable to locate package xorg
[06:08] <mustaukko> smultron: I got it.. you need a 915package.
[06:08] <hamre_> snail?
[06:08] <snail> hamre_: can you install anything? maybe
[06:08] <mustaukko> smultron: I got
[06:09] <datachild> i have no idea, you'll have to ask anyone who knows better.. sorry pibarnas
[06:09] <mustaukko> smultron: http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/D620F6.html
[06:09] <frogzoo> bitmvnch: blkid
[06:09] <mustaukko> smultron: have you tried that?
[06:09] <snail> hamre_: maybe the problem is that the system can't connect to the network to download and install packages?
[06:09] <xmOD> please help me anyone who has experience with grub.. i really need help
[06:09] <pibarnas> datachild thank you for your patience! :)
[06:09] <datachild> No problem :)
[06:09] <hamre_> snail: nope, i'm running a dist-upgrade right now
[06:09] <hamre_> so it works
[06:09] <mustaukko> Nerd42: 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg' with a DASH
[06:10] <snail> hamre_: and it's installing what kinds of packages? just one example will do
[06:10] <Nerd42> oh crap! youre right! sorry!!
[06:10] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: you need to be able to boot windows?
[06:10] <hamre_> firefox
[06:10] <hamre_> hehe
[06:10] <xmOD> yeah
[06:10] <vittorio> i have eth0 as my only network device. how can i change this to be eth1 (so theres no eth0) ?
[06:10] <mustaukko> Nerd42: No problem. :) I'd paste you some of my results, but it's not in english so...
[06:10] <smultron> mustaukko: i don't think so
[06:10] <Nerd42> "Unable to locate package "server-xorg"
[06:10] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: and you already have grub installed so as to boot linux, right?
[06:10] <xmOD> please help as linux hd crashed and i cant boot anymore
[06:11] <rikstah> vittorio, why do you want to do that
[06:11] <snail> hamre_: ok. first wait until that has finished, then try the apt-get command from before
[06:11] <mustaukko> Nerd42: 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'  and not with a xserver-xorg
[06:11] <snail> hamre_: you can't run two at once
[06:11] <mustaukko> Nerd42: 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'  with a x that is. :)
[06:11] <xmOD> i need to somehow install windows bootloader into MBR..
[06:11] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: ok well, if you install grub to the windows drive's MBR...
[06:11] <Nerd42> ok
[06:11] <smultron> mustaukko: though i've tried manually editing the 915resolution default file, if that's what this does
[06:11] <mustaukko> smultron: So, that could solve it..
[06:11] <kamok> #jojn chelm
[06:11] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: grub-install (hd0)
[06:11] <xmOD> ok fine.. but will it autoboot windows?
[06:11] <vittorio> rikstah, a commercial program needs eth1
[06:11] <Nerd42> its doing stuff
[06:11] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: no.
[06:11] <Nerd42> ok here it goes
[06:11] <xmOD> then?
[06:12] <rikstah> vittorio, and you cannot change the config?
[06:12] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: yeah, this is the difficult part...
[06:12] <netpython> hi
[06:12] <vittorio> rikstah, no way
[06:12] <rikstah> vittorio, i think when you modprobe the module, you can give it a parameter
[06:12] <Nerd42> ok thers like five lines of stuff
[06:12] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: in the short term, if you write down what you will need to type in once it loads grub, you can do that
[06:12] <mustaukko> smultron: could you run the lspci command and tell what it says?
[06:12] <Nerd42> it says it installed somethin and has this version table thing
[06:12] <pike_> xmOD: to repair windows mbr (dont do it! stick with linux) boot to windows or from windows boot disk type "fdisk /mbr" i think is right
[06:12] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: otherwise, your best option is to install linux somewhere again
[06:12] <vittorio> rikstah, shouldnt there be a modprobe.conf somewhere?
[06:12] <Nerd42> which part of that is important or should i type up the whole hting?
[06:12] <tapas> what does lrm stand for?
[06:12] <xmOD> write wat down?
[06:12] <lovloss> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <mustaukko> Nerd42: the one with three stars is the line that you've installed.
[06:13] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: the grub commands to load windows
[06:13] <smultron> mustaukko: well, actually I'm in SuSE right now :P another failed attempt to get it working
[06:13] <xmOD> well wat are those?
[06:13] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Mine is *** 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 0
[06:13] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: it's like.... "root (hd0,1)" "chainloader +1" "boot"
[06:13] <rikstah> vittorio, modules.conf maybe
[06:13] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: something like that... i can look it up to make sure
[06:13] <xmOD> will i need to use them everytime i wanna boot windows at startup?
[06:13] <mustaukko> smultron: on the same computer though?
[06:13] <smultron> mustaukko: yes
[06:13] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: it has something to do with what drive/partition windows is on
[06:14] <mustaukko> smultron: I'd like to know the model, so suse has 'lspci' too.
[06:14] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: yes, if all you do is install grub to the MBR
[06:14] <smultron> mustaukko: model of what?
[06:14] <mustaukko> smultron: try 'lspci | grep VGA'
[06:14] <xmOD> i can just write that option to grub permanently so that i jus select the option and grub loads windows?
[06:15] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: your best option is to run the Ubuntu livecd (is that what you're doing already?) and do the install, resizing your windows partition down like 5gb at the end, and install ubuntu... that will put grub back in and autodetect/configure windows booting as well
[06:15] <smultron> mustaukko: lspci command not found
[06:15] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: read: best == easiest
[06:15] <ubuntulive> sudo lspci
[06:15] <mustaukko> so, suse has yast2 right?
[06:15] <smultron> yeah
[06:15] <mustaukko> smultron: try 'sudo lspci | grep VGA'
[06:15] <ubuntulive> Can someone help me install Grub from the LiveCD ?
[06:16] <ubuntulive> this is what i get
[06:16] <smultron> command still not found
[06:16] <ubuntulive> "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[06:16] <xmOD> well am not really comfortable with that as if something goes wrong then really valuable data will be lost? no other way? cant u tell me how to load windows bootloader into MBR?
[06:16] <ubuntulive> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[06:16] <ubuntulive> "
[06:16] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: without a boot partition for grub to read data from, I have no idea how to give grub permanent configuration data :( all I can guarentee is that you'll get a grub command prompt, from which you could boot
[06:16] <mustaukko> smultron: lets see, might be that you have to install it. wait I'll look it up
[06:16] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: well, like someone said earlier, "fdisk /mbr" should do it, if you can get back to windows once
[06:16] <smultron> mustaukko: thank you
[06:16] <xmOD> huh?
[06:17] <xmOD> i din get u on that?
[06:17] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: open a command prompt in windows and type "fdisk /mbr"
[06:17] <mustaukko> smultron: it's called pciutils the package that you should install.
[06:17] <xmOD> ok then?
[06:17] <rm_you|somewhere> yes.
[06:17] <xmOD> it'll surely install windows in MBR?
[06:17] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: that should fix it (or so i've heard)
[06:17] <netpython> didn't know windows has fdisk
[06:18] <mustaukko> Nerd42: So, what was the version installed?
[06:18] <smultron> mustaukko: ok
[06:18] <xmOD> i need to know the exact command in windows so i can try it
[06:18] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: that would be it
[06:18] <rm_you|somewhere> xmOD: "fdisk /mbr"
[06:18] <xmOD> hmm.. ok lemm try to boot
[06:18] <grndslm> anybody know of a decent graphical debugger for linux??  like insight or ddd?  maybe even an IDE if it was better than kdevelop, etc....
[06:18] <xmOD> be right back
[06:18] <mustaukko> Nerd42: And if you type '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' (stop the graphical gui for logging in)..
[06:19] <mustaukko> Nerd42: and try to log in without it from console using 'startx'
[06:19] <mustaukko> Nerd42: what does it say?
[06:19] <ubuntulive> Here I post my problem about Grub: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/83163-pc-bsd-ruined.html
[06:21] <Nerd42> 1second
[06:21] <Nerd42> I'm sorry - i have several different things ogng on at once here
[06:21] <ubuntulive> Nerd42: to whom are you speaking... ?
[06:21] <Nerd42> its 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[06:22] <Nerd42> mustaukko
[06:22] <lftl> so... is there a preferred way to get subversion 1.4.x installed on edgy?
[06:22] <mustaukko> Nerd42: ok.. what about the other commands?
[06:22] <mustaukko> Nerd42: And if you type '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' (stop the graphical gui for logging in)..
[06:22] <giulius> netgear wpn111 ubuntu 6.10 crash who can help me?
[06:22] <mustaukko> Nerd42: and try to log in without it from console using 'startx'
[06:23] <Nerd42> ok
[06:23] <Nerd42> i'm tryin that now
[06:23] <hamre_> what do i need to do to be able to compile apps in ubuntu?
[06:23] <ubuntulive> build-essential
[06:23] <hamre_> it can't install it
[06:23] <ubuntulive> hamre_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:24] <hume> is there any way in ubuntu to convert an avi film to DVD format (or VCD) to make it viewable on TV?
[06:24] <ubuntulive> and a c compiler
[06:24] <hamre_> it says there's no installation candidate
[06:24] <ar2k7> is it hard to remaster the ubuntu livecd??
[06:24] <ubuntulive> hamre_: enable your universal repositories in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:24] <Nerd42> ok it said "Stopping GNOME display manager
[06:24] <hamre_> wait
[06:24] <ubuntulive> hume: try k9copy
[06:25] <Nerd42> and then i typed "startx
[06:25] <Nerd42> er, it wont let me do that i guess ... i hav eto restart the computer don it
[06:25] <smultron> mustaukko: no luck with installing 'lspci'... i could just re-install ubuntu quickly if you think it would be fixable from there....
[06:25] <JNeverMind> good morning all
[06:25] <Nerd42> oops
[06:25] <Nerd42> typos
[06:25] <hamre_> ubuntulive: this is my sources.list: http://paste.husk.org/7575
[06:25] <xmOD> ok am INTO WINDOWS somehow
[06:25] <mustaukko> Nerd42: no, just wait a sec
[06:25] <JNeverMind> is there a documented way to slipstream ubuntu updates into my 6.06 install cd ?
[06:26] <mustaukko> smultron: it should well be.
[06:26] <ubuntulive> hamre_: go to the ubuntu wiki and add the universal repositories
[06:26] <mustaukko> smultron: but wait a minute first.
[06:26] <xmOD> the fdisk /mbr does'nt work as fdisk is not a recognized command
[06:26] <hexidigital> should i be aware of any problems i will encounter by doing a fsck -f on a mounted drive?
[06:26] <smultron> mustaukko: ok
[06:26] <mustaukko> smultron: are you in terminal?
[06:26] <ubuntulive> hamre_: do you have Dapper Drake or edgy ?
[06:26] <smultron> mustaukko: yes
[06:26] <hamre_> edgy i think
[06:26] <hamre_> whatever the latest is
[06:26] <hamre_> i installed it just now
[06:26] <mustaukko> Nerd42: so what did startx tell you?
[06:26] <Jowi> _rogue780, "touch" worked with the power btn?
[06:26] <hamre_> and my sources.list (the one in that paste i gave you) i got off the ubuntu wiki
[06:26] <snail> xmOD: if you want to install the MS windows boot loader into the MBR, isn't that a windows issue? have you tried the windows channels?
[06:27] <ubuntulive> hamre_: hold on let me try and find the edgy repos for you then
[06:27] <CodeWarrior_> I have had problems about xinerama and opengl, my two gpus (nvidia and 3dfx) are configured fine, but I can't get opengl running, any tip ? anybody uses similar solution ?
[06:27] <mustaukko> smultron: so go root (either with su or sudo, what ever is your flavour)
[06:27] <hamre_> thanks a lot man!
[06:27] <smultron> mustaukko: ok
[06:27] <xmOD> snail.. its actually a linux issue but loading the windows bootloader is one option to solve the prob
[06:27] <mustaukko> Nerd42: does this look like your issue? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/61381
[06:28] <mustaukko> smultron: type  lspci now
[06:28] <GNeRaL> helo
[06:28] <mustaukko> smultron: it's really common program. usually installed from get go.
[06:28] <GNeRaL> how to fix: "short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/bin/nmblookup')"
[06:28] <smultron> mustaukko: oh, there it goes. printed a lot of stuff
[06:29] <snail> xmOD: if you don't explain the problem, and I'm not telepathic, how can i help you fix it?
[06:29] <mustaukko> smultron: type 'lspci|grep VGA'
[06:29] <mustaukko> Nerd42: They have a fix for it in there
[06:29] <smultron> mustaukko: gave me the chipset name
[06:30] <Lunar_Lamp> The volume control in ubuntu controls the wrong volume by default (it controls the wrong sound card, my laptops inbuilt one rather than the usb one). How do I alter this?
[06:30] <mustaukko> smultron: paste it here
[06:30] <mustaukko> Nerd42: check out message:  Re: gnome-settings-daemon crashes at login   from Markus Olausson  at 2006-11-14 12:57:48 UTC
[06:30] <hamre_> any luck there ubuntulive
[06:30] <ubuntulive> hamre_: these are mine, add them but replace dapper with whatever version of ubuntu you have
[06:30] <ubuntulive> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[06:30] <ubuntulive> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[06:30] <gb_> hi
[06:30] <hamre_> cool
[06:30] <hamre_> i will, thanks
[06:30] <ubuntulive> and of course remove the '#' infront
[06:30] <mustaukko> Nerd42: if this looks like your problem, then let's fix it like they suggest.
[06:30] <smultron> mustuakko: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GE
[06:30] <ar2k7> reconstructor.. im impressed
[06:31] <Nerd42> um
[06:31] <Nerd42> i read that
[06:31] <Nerd42> it looks ... simlar
[06:31] <Nerd42> though not the exact same error message
[06:31] <hamre_> ubuntulive: still nothing :/
[06:31] <Nerd42> Is there an OS i could put on here that would just WORK ?
[06:31] <Nerd42> lol
[06:31] <xmOD> snail: actually GRUB was loaded on my MBR and eveytime my comp booted, GRUB helped me boot linux/windows.. now the linux HD crashed and i cant boot into any of the OS'es anymore as MBR cant find GRUB.. so i was thinking if someone can help me install windows bootloader back into MBR so i can boot windows while my linux hd is repaired
[06:32] <K1GPL> is there an im client for ubuntu which will allow webcam video?
[06:32] <Nerd42> it doesnt have to have a buncha features really
[06:32] <ubuntulive> hamre_: do this
[06:32] <ubuntulive> sudo apt-get update
[06:32] <ubuntulive> and then try it
[06:32] <hamre_> i've done that
[06:32] <hamre_> dist-update too
[06:32] <Nerd42> I don't understand 85% of what they're talking about on that page you linked to
[06:32] <netpython> xmOD, boot from the windows CD and choose repair
[06:32] <JNeverMind> k1gpl what about amsn ?
[06:32] <snail> xmOD: the approach I'd take would be to boot the install disk and run grub from that, which should automagically detect the windows partition
[06:32] <gb_> xmOD,  can i help?
[06:33] <K1GPL> amsn?  i dunno, i will try it
[06:33] <xmOD> gb: sure
[06:33] <mustaukko> smultron: it's a laptop?
[06:33] <hamre_> or wait
[06:33] <gb_> xmOD,  r u on xp?
[06:33] <ubuntulive> hamre_: then i dnt know, search google for repositories for ur distro
[06:33] <xmOD> gb: yes at the moment
[06:33] <smultron> mustaukko: no, old gateway tower
[06:33] <hamre_> thanks man
[06:33] <hamre_> thanks a lot :D
[06:33] <mustaukko> Nerd42: I'd suggest 6.10 ubuntu.
[06:33] <gb_> xmOD,  insert cd in drive and bootup in recovery console mode of xp
[06:33] <gb_> ok?
[06:34] <mustaukko> smultron: So you can update it then.. but let's see what can be done.
[06:34] <hamre_> ubuntulive: it worked!!!! thanks an
[06:34] <hamre_> * man
[06:34] <gb_> type there fixmbr to fix xp's mbr
[06:34] <Nerd42> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu LOL LOL LOL
[06:34] <Nerd42> ok
[06:34] <trichalo> /last
[06:34] <Nerd42> i'll DL 6.10 ubuntu
[06:34] <trichalo> hmm
[06:34] <xmOD> gb: yeah .. go on
[06:34] <ubuntulive> hamre_: no prob
[06:34] <jitsu> hi, my
[06:34] <gb_> that si all u gotta do
[06:34] <jitsu> oops
[06:34] <gb_> xp will be fixed
[06:34] <gb_> u will be able to boot into it
[06:34] <K1GPL> does amsn require you to register with msn?
[06:35] <gb_> kgpl hotmail account will work
[06:35] <xmOD> gb: by recovery console u mean the blue screen thingy that we get when xp disk boots?
[06:35] <gb_> xmOD,  nope sir
[06:35] <xmOD> umm.. then
[06:35] <smultron> mustaukko: yeah, i was thinking a new graphics would fix it, but it'd be nice if it just worked as is...
[06:35] <gb_> when u boot from xp cd, it ask u to press enter to start setup or press r to enter recovery mode
[06:36] <jitsu> my keybord isn't working. nywy. i bought  new usb keybord, since my computer is refusing to boot when the ps2 one is plugged in... but when i try to boot ubuntu, it sys something bout tty. ny ide how i cn fix it with the live cd/
[06:36] <gb_> u press r to enter recovery mode
[06:36] <rm_you|inclass> woo, plugins-extra finally built
[06:36] <xmOD> and then?
[06:36] <mustaukko> smultron: Yeah.
[06:36] <netpython> xmOD, and than enter fixmbr
[06:36] <gb_> it will detect ur xp partition and ask the admin password for it
[06:36] <gb_> once pass. is given
[06:36] <gb_> type fixmbr command
[06:36] <mustaukko> smultron: Have you tried the 855resolution?
[06:36] <gb_> and ur xp mbr will be back on
[06:36] <smultron> mustaukko: only the 915
[06:36] <Nerd42> i am really sick of tweaking this thing
[06:37] <mustaukko> smultron: Do you have latest intel drivers?
[06:37] <mustaukko> smultron: They are said to be here: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm
[06:37] <gb_> xmOD,  good luck
[06:37] <xmOD> am not really sure my windows disk gives the recovery option, so before rebooting into the disk can i try something while am on windows right now as it was really hard to boot into windows
[06:37] <_rogue780> Jowi, after I rearranged my script so openbox is last it worked
[06:37] <Nerd42> as much as i love tinkering with computers, this is really 1. out of my leauge and 2. never going to work perminantly if it requires this much tweaking
[06:38] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Hey, let's try it out, since it's a simple tweak.
[06:38] <gb_> ok
[06:38] <davmor2> In irc is there a way to switch off the messages about people logging on and off?
[06:38] <davmor2> I'm using gaim
[06:38] <timo> gd he need all the luck he can get
[06:38] <smultron> mustuakko: they were only available via git... i didn't know how do obtain them that way
[06:39] <JNeverMind> google is not pulling through for me here guys, do you know of a documented way to 'slipstream' my 6.06 cd with the updates ?
[06:39] <xmOD> gb: any ideas?
[06:39] <NthDegree> davmor2m there are 2 ways
[06:39] <smultron> musaukko: see: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[06:39] <jitsu> ok, different uestion. this keybord isn't working well in ubuntu, ny ide how to fix it/ for exmple, the letter before b in the lphbet isn't coming out t ll
[06:39] <hamre_> how do i set my wireless nic into monitor mode? the command wlanconfig isn't available in ubuntu...
[06:39] <mustaukko> Nerd42: in terminal (if you are still there...) write: 'sudo chmod 644 /etc/libnss-ldap.conf'
[06:39] <ubuntulive> can someone help me please!
[06:39] <gb_> from within xp it would be hard
[06:39] <NthDegree> davmor2m: on X-Chat (NOT GNOME) you can alter text events
[06:39] <gb_> but there is a way
[06:39] <CodeWarrior_> anybody here uses xinerama ?
[06:39] <ubuntulive> i need to re-install grub
[06:39] <gb_> do u have a floppy drive there
[06:39] <xmOD> go on..
[06:39] <NthDegree> davmor2m: or you can script it out
[06:39] <xmOD> uh no
[06:39] <xmOD> lol
[06:39] <xmOD> not working
[06:40] <gb_> ouch :(
[06:40] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Nah, it's just to get you going. Once you get the hang of it, it just works.
[06:40] <xmOD> we cant do things with DOS?
[06:40] <davmor2> nthdegree thanks
[06:40] <mustaukko> Nerd42: But yeah, I remember that it was a really steep learning curve.
[06:40] <NthDegree> yeep
[06:40] <NthDegree> xmOD, DOS is ANCIENT
[06:40] <gb_> nada it will work in rcovery mode with xp cd in
[06:40] <mustaukko> Nerd42: such a different world of computing.
[06:41] <gb_> but there is 1 more thing u cna do
[06:41] <gb_> :)
[06:41] <bronze_0_1> NthDegree: So is Unix. :)
[06:41] <gb_> y not install linux that u had back on
[06:41] <Nerd42> mustaukko, i will have to do all this stuff on every computer i install ubuntu  on?
[06:41] <gb_> reinstall it boot loader
[06:41] <Nerd42> this shouldn't be happening
[06:41] <gb_> boot win from there
[06:41] <mustaukko> smultron: 855 could work well for you
[06:41] <rance> is there a way to tell in a script if a package is installed?
[06:41] <Nerd42> MS-DOS 6.2 rules. Always has, always does.
[06:41] <mustaukko> Nerd42: No.
[06:41] <netpython> boot win and stay away from linux :-)
[06:41] <xmOD> i need to get back my linux drive for that which will take some time
[06:41] <bronze_0_1> rance - use theapt commands and test
[06:41] <NthDegree> bronze_0_1, yeah and who uses ancient UNIX?  *BSD && GNU/Linux FTW!!!
[06:41] <mustaukko> Nerd42: It's not that hard, really. Usually it's automatic.
[06:42] <gb_> which linux u got there?
[06:42] <bronze_0_1> NthDegree: Point being age does not confer good or bad upon software. :-)
[06:42] <xmOD> ok ok.. go over the recovery console method again.. can u?
[06:42] <xmOD> ubuntu
[06:42] <timo> install linux to get your mbr back
[06:42] <Nerd42> MS-DOS rules for three reasons: 1. It will run off a floppy disk. 2. It has an awesome selection of really cool games that are easy to install and run and 3. There is no "shut down" command - if you're at the command prompt, you can just flip the switch and BOOM - its off.
[06:42] <gb_> then reinstall grun for ubuntu
[06:42] <gb_> add win to grub
[06:42] <gb_> :)
[06:43] <xmOD> for tat i need to get my HD back.. thats wat i had done earlier
[06:43] <ubuntulive> i cant install grub
[06:43] <ubuntulive> from livecd
[06:43] <netpython> Nerd42, and it runs your games
[06:43] <ubuntulive> i installed pc-bsd and now i cant boot back into ubuntu
[06:43] <bronze_0_1> Biggest problem with DOS: People think its OK to to: "just flip the switch and BOOM - its off."
[06:43] <bauer77> MSdos, wasnt that the first virus ever invented?
[06:43] <bauer77> lol
[06:43] <snail> Nerd42: that assumes you're not using the early disks that weren't self parking
[06:43] <gb_> Ubugtu,live why?
[06:43] <mustaukko> Nerd42: Those things apply for all operating systems that are slim. And remember that msdos is really old and does not support multitasking.. :)
[06:43] <ubuntulive> and sudo grub-install /dev/sda doesnt work either
[06:43] <Nerd42> yeah i kno
[06:43] <xmOD> gb, can u go over the recovery console method again?
[06:44] <gb_> xmOD,  ok
[06:44] <gb_> insert cd and boot from it
[06:44] <Nerd42> bronze_0_1 what makes you say that?
[06:44] <mustaukko> Nerd42: but hey, do you want to try it out?
[06:44] <Nerd42> isnt that what you're supposed to do?
[06:44] <Nerd42> in dos?
[06:44] <smultron> mustaukko: maybe i'll just go back to windows until (if) i get a new graphics card. i've been banging my head for 2 weeks trying to get this monitor working :P
[06:44] <gb_> press r to enter recovery mode, enter admin passy when asked
[06:44] <gb_> enter fixmbr
[06:44] <Nerd42> want ot try out what mustaukko ?
[06:44] <gb_> after it is done , reboot
[06:44] <mustaukko> Nerd42: fix for your error message
[06:44] <xmOD> ok am gonna try that now
[06:44] <NthDegree> bronze_0_1:  RECOVER C:\
[06:44] <NthDegree> *wink*
[06:44] <bronze_0_1> :-)
[06:45] <ubuntulive> aaaarrrrrrr plz help some1
[06:45] <mustaukko> smultron: Well, I'd give 855 a go if you've not tried it already.
[06:45] <Nerd42> what ?
[06:45] <mustaukko> smultron: It's designed for older chipset than 915
[06:45] <Nerd42> mustaukko: want ot try what out ?
[06:45] <gb_> Ubugtu, live hi
[06:45] <smultron> mustaukko: alright
[06:45] <NthDegree> and NOT being able to alter hidden and system attribs in like the first 4 versions of DOS
[06:45] <NthDegree> that sucked
[06:45] <gb_> did u mount ur partion first and then chroot it?
[06:45] <ubuntulive> gb_: Could I send you a private message and explain my problem maybe ?
[06:45] <mustaukko> smultron: and the designer said that he made it in order to get 1440x900 to work. :)
[06:45] <ubuntulive> this chat is going too fast for me
[06:45] <gb_> ok go ahead plz
[06:45] <hamre_> has anybody managed installing madwifi-ng? how is it done? apt-get install madwifi / apt-get install madwifi-ng doesn't work...
[06:46] <Nerd42> ubuntulive - yeah me too i think i missed something important
[06:46] <Nerd42> and also i am having terrible lag probs
[06:46] <smultron> mustuakko: well, technicially i got it running in 1440x900, it just had repeating pixels on the right and bottom
[06:46] <timo> better off just installing linux
[06:46] <rapid> hamre_, I installed it through CVS. from memory.
[06:46] <mustaukko> Nerd42: fix for your error
[06:46] <hamre_> i see i see
[06:46] <gnomefreak> !wifi | hamre_
[06:46] <ubotu> hamre_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:46] <Nerd42> what is it ?
[06:46] <mustaukko> Nerd42: in terminal (if you are still there...) write: 'sudo chmod 644 /etc/libnss-ldap.conf'
[06:46] <gb_> hamre_,  playing with aircrack?
[06:46] <netpython> !sodapop
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sodapop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <mustaukko> Nerd42: after this reboot
[06:47] <smultron> mustaukko: did you see my screenshot of it?
[06:47] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem, i have to reboot in order to connect to the internet, and sometime that doesnt work either, if you think you would like to help please see http://www.pastebin.ca/327005 and start reading on line 146
[06:47] <hamre_> gb_: yep
[06:47] <rapid> hamre_, there is #madwifi aswell.
[06:47] <hamre_> thanks obstfliege
[06:47] <gb_> hamre_,  download madwifi from aircrack-ng.org
[06:47] <cryosphere> actually "connect to the internet and use my usb devices"
[06:47] <mustaukko> Nerd42: yeah
[06:47] <buffi> hey
[06:47] <mustaukko> smultron: yeah
[06:48] <gb_> ubuntulive,  no Pm's yet
[06:48] <Nerd42> sudo chmod 644 /etc/libnss-ldap.conf ... ok i'll try it
[06:48] <ubuntulive> gb_: i sent you like 10 already
[06:48] <Nerd42> Do i boot to the cd or to the hard drive ?
[06:48] <smultron> mustaukko: if i do get a graphics card, any suggestions for a low-end linux compatible one?
[06:49] <gb_> ubuntulive,  join #fixmbr
[06:49] <ubuntulive> gb_: Ok could you pm me then maybe since this is not working from this side...
[06:49] <ubuntulive> ok gb_
[06:49] <mustaukko> smultron: any nvidia.
[06:49] <jughead> nvidia smultron
[06:49] <smultron> alright
[06:49] <jughead> smultron, what interface?  AGP or PCI?
[06:49] <mustaukko> smultron: basicly you can get those really cheap.
[06:49] <smultron> PCI
[06:49] <HairyDude> hello, I'm trying to install gtk emacs from this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126023 , but got a 404 at "tla get".
[06:50] <mustaukko> smultron: so not pcie
[06:50] <smultron> no, this is an old one
[06:50] <jughead> they still sell 5500's in PCI (GeForce FX5500)
[06:50] <smultron> hm
[06:50] <smultron> maybe a trip to ebay, too
[06:50] <kikabola> hello, everybody
[06:50] <mustaukko> Nerd42: harddrive, that's what you should use all the time in this .. :)
[06:50] <jughead> hi kikabola
[06:51] <jughead> smultron, are you in the US?
[06:51] <smultron> yeah
[06:51] <jughead> newegg ususally has some of the best prices
[06:51] <netpython> texas
[06:52] <smultron> yeah, i might try there
[06:52] <smultron> i just don't want to spend a whole lot on this old machine
[06:52] <bauer77> salescircular.com is good too if your in the US. if you dont want to go mail
[06:52] <jughead> smultron, what is your budget?
[06:52] <bauer77> I have a Geforce MX400...
[06:52] <JNeverMind> smultron doesnt it have an onboard card?
[06:52] <smultron> yeah, that's what i'm using now
[06:52] <hamre_> gb_: from aircrack-ng.org and not madwifi.org?
[06:53] <smultron> i dunno what my budget is...
[06:53] <smultron> haven't looked to see how cheap i can find them yet :P
[06:53] <kikabola> im attempting to install a dual boot, and i wanted to know if the swap part of the drive is partitioned or unpartitioned space?
[06:53] <jughead> is $56 too much?  There's a 5500 PCI card w/ 128mb RAM on newegg for $55.99
[06:53] <smultron> hm
[06:54] <fiXXXerMet> Does the postfix package for ubuntu support dovecot for sasl, or does it still use cyrus or whatever?
[06:54] <JNeverMind> smoltron can i see your screenshot ?
[06:54] <smultron> sure, at the bottom of this post
[06:54] <smultron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2038404#post2038404
[06:54] <TopDawg216> ! evolution rss
[06:54] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[06:54] <kelsin> HairyDude: I suggest this link: http://peadrop.com/blog/category/computers/ubuntu/
[06:54] <HairyDude> ouchie
[06:54] <kelsin> HairyDude: his packages even have the --enable-font-backend option already checked
[06:54] <netpython> lol
[06:54] <TopDawg216> does evolution support RS subscriptions?
[06:55] <TopDawg216> RSS*
[06:55] <pbureau> wth was that ?
[06:55] <netpython> dcc sploit
[06:55] <HairyDude> someone sent garbage to the server by the look of it
[06:55] <smultron> this is a P4 1.8GHz 629RAM... you don't think 128MB vid card is overkill?
[06:55] <apokryphos> ack
[06:55] <HairyDude> kelsin: thanks, will have a look
[06:55] <JNeverMind> well that was weird first time i clicked on a link with chatzilla
[06:55] <JNeverMind> and it closed
[06:55] <jughead> smultron, no I don't think so
[06:55] <JNeverMind> lets see that link again
[06:56] <smultron> from me?
[06:56] <JNeverMind> smultron yes please
[06:56] <freshmouse> Hello. Can I ask you? In 6.06 DD, there's an utility called "Disks" (command "disks-admin"). I've 6.10 EE and I can't find Disks in my repos (Universe, Multiverse...). I found an utility "Storage Device Manager" (command "pysdm"), but it isn't so friendly like Disks (my friend needs something user-friendly for easy disks managing). Can you help me?
[06:56] <smultron> here's direct jpg link
[06:56] <smultron> http://hagakure1.googlepages.com/Screenshot01.JPG
[06:56] <kelsin> HairyDude: if you just want gtk, then the ubuntu emacs-snapshot-gtk package works, and if you want XFT there are two people that maintain packages for it, I like that one better
[06:57] <jenda> LjL: it now behaves as a read-only fs... what can I do about that?
[06:57] <Lyco|Ubuntu> I had heard that in the nvidia drivers for linux, there was an easy, no command line to set up twinview/dual monitors - is this true?
[06:57] <aalhamad> i have an image scanned... and there is a text on it that i want to erase. I selected it my color but i can't remove it.. (im using gimp)
[06:57] <Sikh> Can someone help me?
[06:58] <smultron> JNeverMind: wierd huh?
[06:58] <aalhamad> on what sikh?
[06:58] <Sikh> First time i burned ubuntu
[06:58] <Sikh> it worked fine as a live cd
[06:58] <JNeverMind> oh i see, current graphics cards deosnt have 1440 widescreen mode?
[06:58] <Korijn> Anyone want to help me out? I'm trying to get my wireless card running.
[06:58] <Sikh> now i burned another copy. same computer
[06:58] <HairyDude> kelsin: I just want to play with an emacs that doesn't look pug-ugly
[06:58] <Sikh> and it wont run
[06:58] <smultron> JNeverMind: it worked in windows
[06:58] <aalhamad> what are u using to burn?
[06:58] <Sikh> gives me a black screen with white text and the end of it says Interrupt as Paging Fault Violation #########
[06:58] <Sikh> DVD Burner
[06:58] <Sikh> first copy of Ubuntu Worked
[06:59] <LjL> jenda: hm it works for me if you write to it as root. i guess it's just a matter of mounting it with the right options (not that i can ever remember what they are)
[06:59] <Sikh> and it was 6.06 so i burned another copy for text purposes
[06:59] <Sikh> when i run it
[06:59] <kelsin> HairyDude: yeah, just use the link I sent, just requires adding two lines to /etc/apt/sources.list, adding his gpg key and then installing the emacs.snapshot-gtk package, ask me if you need help with any ot those steps
[06:59] <Sikh> it goes to Configuring X
[06:59] <jughead> sikh, don't put
[06:59] <Sikh> then Restricted Drivers
[06:59] <jughead> stuff on
[06:59] <Sikh> and Computer Crashes
[06:59] <jughead> a bunch of
[06:59] <aalhamad> you are working under window or ubunto ?
[06:59] <jughead> different lines
[06:59] <Sikh> windows.
[06:59] <Sikh> sorry jughead.
[06:59] <Korijn> Anyone want to help me out? I'm trying to get my wireless card running.
[06:59] <aalhamad> sikh use nero
[06:59] <Sikh> i do
[06:59] <aalhamad> i've done it and it work
[06:59] <Sikh> i use Nero
[06:59] <Sikh> and Ultra ISO
[07:00] <Sikh> yes you dont understand. It works CD is FINE 0 checksums FaIL
[07:00] <Sikh> cd is perfect its a brand new pack
[07:00] <Sikh> but what is wrong with my computer?
[07:00] <Sikh> its same hardware
[07:00] <Sikh> same settnigs
[07:00] <kikabola> can i ask a question about partitioning again?  is the swap space partitioned or unpartitioned?
[07:00] <Sikh> i even used Wipedisk to do 3 passes so i can reformat my computer and try Ubuntu that way and it doesnt work
[07:00] <aalhamad> sikh i dont think there is something wrong with your hardware..
[07:01] <oolon> kikabola: it's partioned
[07:01] <kikabola> thx
[07:01] <Sikh> ok. because it goes to Configuing X on Ubuntu 6.06 and then goes to where it Loads the Drivers and Crashes
[07:01] <JNeverMind> well if you have the correct linux driver loaded it should work too unless youve found others with your prob
[07:01] <oolon> kikabola: it's partitioned*
[07:01] <Sikh> i took pictures of it if you want to understand better.
[07:01] <aalhamad> sorry Sikh .. i dont think i can help.. somebody else can help u..
[07:01] <smultron> i haven't
[07:01] <Lyco|Ubuntu> I had heard that in the nvidia drivers for linux, there was an easy, no command line to set up twinview/dual monitors - is this true?
[07:01] <jenda> LjL: ok
[07:01] <Sikh> JNever are yo talking to me?
[07:01] <aalhamad> sikh i've done the same with my CD and it worked..
[07:02] <eisma> could someone walk me through installingflash and mozilla activex?
[07:02] <Korijn> Anyone want to help me out? I'm trying to get my wireless card running.
[07:02] <netzen> who can tell me how can I dial AOL with ubuntu
[07:02] <netzen> ?
[07:02] <jenda> LjL: it seems that it fails to mount altogether, though.
[07:02] <netpython> kikabola, you have to partition in order to have a swap,so logically..
[07:02] <Sikh> o. it worked for me first time few weeks ago
[07:02] <sedrake> Anyone know what expression is needed to change window title of a program with Devils Pie in gnome?
[07:02] <Sikh> now i want to permanently install linux, but i cant
[07:02] <HairyDude> activex is doze only, don't think you'll find it for moz
[07:02] <Sikh> live CD doesnt boot anymore
[07:02] <Kyral> Jeez whats with people and thinking that Command Line == Hard
[07:02] <JNeverMind> smultron have you check thed the x config file in text editor ?
[07:02] <kikabola> netpython, ok, sorry so newbie
[07:02] <Sikh> Can anyone else help me?
[07:03] <smultron> JNeverMind, yes many times and gone through lots of different configs
[07:03] <JNeverMind> ahh, i see
[07:03] <smultron> that sceenshot was the closest i got to native res
[07:03] <LjL> jenda: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/mapper/usbkey /mnt/encrypted <- what error?
[07:03] <uttar1> can anyone tell me how I can configure the default bittorrent client in ubuntu ( I have already done the port forwarding. It works well on window's version of Bittorrent client)
[07:03] <kikabola> sikh, does it have to be a live cd or could you install it using the alternate?
[07:04] <Sikh> i havent tryed alternate
[07:04] <Sikh> should i?
[07:04] <jenda> LjL: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/usbkey, missing codepage or other error
[07:04] <Sikh> i was thinking about going that route, but wasnt sure.
[07:04] <kikabola> i dont know that it will work but that is what i am trying when i had a problem with live cd
[07:04] <Sikh> did it work?
[07:04] <HairyDude> still looks ugly... probably just needs customizing
[07:04] <kikabola> dont know yet
[07:04] <Sikh> what is alternate install? does it just start instattion?
[07:04] <Sikh> installation.
[07:05] <kikabola> it is a text installer
[07:05] <Sikh> ok, in what bases?
[07:05] <HairyDude> oh, you have to fiddle with .Xresources?
[07:05] <Sikh> like Command Text, or Text Prompt
[07:05] <kikabola> that i dont know
[07:05] <Sikh> like it tells you if its installing or configuring X like Live CD Ubuntu 6.06
[07:05] <kikabola> i am still installing windows (gasp!)
[07:05] <Sikh> o ok
[07:05] <uttar1> can anyone tell me how I can configure the default bittorrent client in ubuntu ( I have already done the port forwarding. It works well on window's version of Bittorrent client)
[07:05] <Sikh> My Laptop runs all 3 copies i have made FINE.
[07:06] <Sikh> but my computer doesnt ?
[07:06] <smultron> would MythTV be hard to setup on Ubuntu?
[07:06] <LjL> jenda: sudo cryptsetup -c aes -s 256 -h sha256 -y create usbkey $loopdev   still works? (make sure to set $loopdev first...)
[07:06] <Sikh> i took digital pictures so someone can help me
[07:06] <bauer77> Mustaukko - Thank you very much for your assistance. I tried those instructions 3 times before but I have my ATI Mobility 9700 working properly now. Thanks
[07:06] <kikabola> give the alternet installation a try
[07:06] <mustaukko> bauer77: great!
[07:06] <jenda> LjL: it says it already exists, so I remove it first, then it works.
[07:06] <Sikh> going to
[07:06] <jenda> LjL: the mount still doesn't.
[07:07] <bauer77> what a difference..hehe
[07:07] <Sikh> can you partition with Alternate Installation?
[07:07] <JNeverMind> smultron there a couple of threads at ubuntuforums, you prolly check that already
[07:07] <LjL> jenda: hmm strange, i'll try repeating the whole thing from scratch
[07:07] <JNeverMind> well darn it wish i coulda lhelped, what a pain having supported hardware but its not working
[07:07] <JNeverMind> grrr
[07:07] <kikabola> i imagine you can partition with it
[07:07] <HairyDude> [pwb@rhuidean ~] $ emacs-snapshot-gtk
[07:07] <HairyDude> No fonts match `Monospace-13'
[07:07] <zehntagebart> please somebody can help me with cryptdisks and ubuntu edgy eft? i'm not able to get it work. i followed the the wiki article but it dont work =(
[07:07] <Sikh> ok i hpoe so
[07:07] <Sikh> i just installed windows
[07:07] <Sikh> and i have exams this week
[07:07] <Sikh> so i can't lose this computer
[07:08] <zehntagebart> i dont get a password prompt
[07:08] <Sikh> JNeverMind can you help me? if your one with Sum
[07:08] <HairyDude> which font name do I use for vera sans mono then? "Monospace" seems not to work
[07:08] <Sikh> if your done*
[07:08] <zehntagebart> and nothing of the encrypted partitions is mounted
[07:09] <smultron> mustaukko: thanks for all the help. i think i'm gonna go back to ubuntu until i get a new video card
[07:09] <mustaukko> smultron: Hoep wit works out.
[07:09] <smultron> see ya :)
[07:11] <LjL> jenda: i don't know, it works for me... note that (aside from small stuff i've forgotten to paste, such as installing cryptsetup), i *haven't* followed the entire howto - for instance i haven't modprobe'd anything manually. i basically just did what i pasted
[07:11] <jenda> LjL: ok
[07:11] <erabbit> hi.  i have a silly question - where is the option to show the 'sticky window' pin in the window bar (to make it visible on all desktops)? i can't find it anywhere in 6.10 desktop, gnome.
[07:12] <jshriver> Anyone know where to enable the PHP modules from php-db?
[07:12] <jshriver> I did "apt-get install php-db" but I still can't access the modules
[07:13] <gb_> jshriver,  trying to set up LAMP?
[07:13] <TopDawg216> Sorry to repeat, but I haven't gotten any response...Does Evolution work as an RSS aggregator?
[07:13] <jshriver> gb: no... writing some PHP code to interface with MSSQL Server 2005 *ick*
[07:13] <jshriver> one of our clients is a windows freak so stuck interfacing with them
[07:14] <ziadoz> anyone know a good tutorial to help me get aiglx and compiz running edgy? im running a gf mx 440
[07:14] <erabbit> topdawg216 - the old 1.x version used to, but i haven't found any options|plugins for it on the 2.0 version.  i looked for it too.  they took a bunch of stuff out after Novell took over :(
[07:14] <gb_> ok no idea about that :)
[07:14] <fuffe> I want to search for all files with this:"	{" string, but the gnome search doesn't work
[07:14] <gb_> sorry
[07:14] <jshriver> so LA(MSSQL)P :)
[07:14] <jshriver> it's ok :)
[07:14] <fuffe> not a space in the beginning, but a tab
[07:15] <fuffe> (\t)
[07:15] <gb_> i have worked on LAMP
[07:15] <gb_> :p
[07:15] <Arigato> what package contains the XviD codec?
[07:15] <Trixsey> Good open source program to draw UML 2.0 diagrams?
[07:15] <Trixsey> Anyone?
[07:15] <jshriver> db isn't as important, since PHP isn't finding any SQL driver from php-db
[07:15] <jshriver> Trixsey: dia
[07:15] <fuffe> anyone hear me?
[07:15] <gb_> fuffe,  we see ya
[07:16] <jshriver> hi fuffe
[07:16] <fuffe> ok, that sounds prommissing
[07:16] <gb_> Arigato, hi
[07:16] <fuffe> hi all
[07:16] <gb_> Arigato,  try mplayerhq.nu
[07:16] <HairyDude> kelsin: the .Xresources thing doesn't work, it doesn't find any fonts matching "Monospace-13"
[07:16] <jshriver> gd: do you know where in apache2 or php that you enable the modules for php-db?
[07:16] <gb_> it is gb ;)
[07:16] <erUSUL> !lamp > jshriver
[07:17] <gb_> jshriver,  apache php5 modules are loaded from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled folder
[07:17] <jshriver> gb: thanks ^_^
[07:17] <jshriver> mplayer/mencoder rocks
[07:17] <TYVVM> 320gb SATA Disk Defragmented and The install disk partitioner is not working.
[07:18] <gb_> welcome
[07:18] <TYVVM> I need a bit of help with the disk partiioning.
[07:18] <gb_> TYVVM,  use qtparted
[07:19] <gb_> unmount the partition first
[07:19] <TYVVM> The install sisk uses qtparted?
[07:19] <fuffe> anyone that wpoulf like to help me with my problem?
[07:19] <Ha1> Hey guys
[07:19] <Sikh> the install disk has a greater partitioner
[07:19] <Sikh> its simple.
[07:19] <gb_> TYVVM,  nah u gotta install it
[07:19] <gb_> TYVVM,  apt-get install qtparted
[07:19] <ProN00b> does ubuntu have xfce 4.4 ?
[07:19] <gb_> ProN00b,  yes
[07:20] <humbolto> how can I allow certain users to run the users-admin app? I would not want these users to be able to run software updates, ... like they could if they were part of the admin group.
[07:20] <Sikh> the Desktop CD Installer has a partitioner
[07:20] <gb_> ProN00b,  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[07:20] <TYVVM> Sikh - Thank You
[07:20] <kelsin> HairyDude: do you have Monospace installed? I would install the ttf-bitstream-vera package if I were you then put "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-12" on the font line in .Xresources
[07:20] <ProN00b> is it really 4.4 ot some other 4.x ?
[07:20] <Sikh> you welcome
[07:20] <Sikh> when you double click install
[07:20] <gb_> ProN00b,  did nto chk that :)
[07:20] <TYVVM> Sikh - it just is not working.
[07:20] <Sikh> and go to like the last step
[07:20] <Sikh> it will ask which drive
[07:20] <Sikh> you have an option to partition
[07:21] <kelsin> emacs -q
[07:21] <usuarioribas> spanish please
[07:21] <AlexC_> Hey
[07:21] <Sikh> in what sense?
[07:21] <humbolto> I thought about creating a new group and put some lines in the sudoers file to allow the members to run users-admin with gksu. but users-admin is not started with gksu.
[07:21] <gb_> usuarioribas,  only spanish i know is mucho gracious :)
[07:21] <Sikh> is it not giving you can option to create when you right click?
[07:21] <gb_> that too spellings messed up, lol
[07:22] <AlexC_> I've setup a web server on a small PC on my network and it all works fine when I access it via it's IP (eg, 192.169.1.2 ) but when I access it via my main IP address (like 86.121.***.*** ) it says 404 file not found - why is this?
[07:22] <TYVVM> Sikh - the slider to resize stalls and the other thing shows an error
[07:22] <HairyDude> kelsin: I have ttf-bitstream-vera and "Emacs.font: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-12" still doesn't work
[07:22] <Sikh> ahhh
[07:22] <TYVVM> unmounting wasn't any help. - sigh back to windows.
[07:22] <Sikh> two options
[07:22] <Sikh> your Computer. Or CD
[07:22] <Ha1> I have a bit of an issue. Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertainant key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam trying t
[07:22] <Sikh> do a "Check for Defects"
[07:23] <netzen> is anybody familiar with libqtintf.so ? i need to install that and I can't find it
[07:23] <kelsin> HairyDude: if you .Xresources has the backend: xft line, and xft fonts are working else where on your system and your .Xresources is loaded (xrdb -load .Xresources) then I don't know what else to say :-(
[07:23] <kelsin> HairyDude: "Emacs.font: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-12" that is my line from my .Xresources
[07:24] <HairyDude> I used -merge but yes
[07:24] <gb_> netzen,  not sure but i think it is in qt modules
[07:24] <kelsin> HairyDude: (without quotes)
[07:24] <ProN00b> Ha1, if you hadn't mentionned python, i would have tried helping you ^^
[07:24] <HairyDude> dunno if xft fonts are working, I don't know how to test it
[07:24] <bronze_0_1> hi all, I was wondering if anyone knows of a directory or list of the Meta packages?
[07:24] <netzen> HairyDude and how do I install that?.
[07:24] <Ha1> Pfft, whys that ProN00b?
[07:24] <usuarioribas> i dont know wath you say
[07:24] <der0b> anyone seen errors like this in dmesg when using a touchpad? psmouse.c: DualPoint TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte - Is there a fix?
[07:24] <HairyDude> libxft2 is installed
[07:24] <ProN00b> Ha1, because its a shitty language
[07:24] <Ha1> Well, tell ywhat, ProN00b, pretend I didnt and please help me?
[07:25] <Ha1> Presumably any other language I use will experience similar issues
[07:25] <kelsin> HairyDude: honestly it just worked for me so I'm not very experienced debugging it
[07:25] <master_tux> wassup
[07:25] <HairyDude> odd
[07:25] <master_tux> wassup
[07:25] <HairyDude> is xft the font stuff that most gnome apps use?
[07:25] <sharperguy> whats the best way to type Japanese with my English keyboard in ubuntu?
[07:25] <kelsin> HairyDude: yeah
[07:25] <ProN00b> Ha1, there are no other languages where you need ` and '
[07:25] <netzen> HairyDude I have libxft2 already installed
[07:25] <Ha1> ProN00b, whats a language you recommend learning instead? If you help me, I promise Ill learn it
[07:25] <HairyDude> ah, then it probably is working
[07:25] <EarthWalker> Is tremulous in the dapper repositories, or only edgy, or neither?
[07:25] <gb_> sharp did u chk language support
[07:26] <gb_> if it has thiose fonts?
[07:26] <master_tux> wasssup
[07:26] <Ha1> COme off it, I know you need working quotes in Javascript at least, and thats pretty darn basic
[07:26] <master_tux> wassup
[07:26] <Ha1> ProN00b, feel like helping me anyway? Itd be much apprecated
[07:26] <sharperguy> gb_, there installed, I just don't know how to type in it
[07:26] <gb_> javascript :)
[07:26] <Ha1> appreciated*
[07:26] <HairyDude> netzen: what?
[07:26] <gb_> sharp clik system >>admin >>language support
[07:27] <gb_> at ur own risk :)
[07:27] <master_tux> sup yo
[07:27] <netzen> I have libxft2 already installed
[07:27] <kelsin> HairyDude: so emacs doesn't start with the "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-12" font can't be found message?
[07:27] <Ha1> ProN00b? Please help?
[07:27] <ziadoz> anyone know a good tutorial to help me get aiglx and compiz running edgy?
[07:27] <rebz> anyone recommend any other vncviewers other then xvncviewer
[07:27] <sharperguy> gb_, like i said, its installed, I just need to know how to type it
[07:27] <rebz> it doesnt seem to be able to vnc to my mac mini
[07:27] <ProN00b> Ha1, c/c++, perl, even ruby (if you like a language because of its "fancyness" factor) are better than python, also, try a different keyboard layout...
[07:27] <rebz> but i can vnc on other computers to it
[07:27] <HairyDude> kelsin: that's right
[07:27] <netzen> I am trying to install pengaol and I get a lot of errors
[07:27] <gb_> :(
[07:27] <Sikh> Python is better then RUBY
[07:27] <Sikh> Perl is good so is C/C++ C#, Java
[07:28] <HairyDude> netzen: sorry, I wasn't trying to answer your question
[07:28] <Ha1> Ive done the whole keyboard setting fiddling with, ProN00b. I need specific instructions
[07:28] <netzen> np
[07:28] <HairyDude> oh ffs
[07:28] <Ha1> Can you help me at all, ProN00b? With specifics... random fiddling didnt work too well
[07:28] <jobo> I have a strange problem. I'm trying to setup my internet connection from my ubuntu machine. I want it to use my public static ip. I used /etc/network/interfaces to configure my device. I have checked the configurations over and over again and everything is correctly configured. When I do a ifup eth0 I get: "SIOCSIFNETMASK invalid argument" and it fails. Then I do a ifconfig and sees that the netmask is completly wrong: 255.0.0.0. Any ideas?
[07:28] <master_tux> dude
[07:28] <sharperguy> argh
[07:29] <ProN00b> Ha1, well, did you find the place where you can switch keyboard layouts ? which one do you currently use ?
[07:29] <gb_> jobo,  hi
[07:29] <sharperguy> zomg
[07:29] <kelsin> jobo: have you typed "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to reload those configs?
[07:30] <erUSUL> jobo: can you post the interfaces file to a pastebin?
[07:30] <kelsin> jobo: nevermind, you just stated you called ifup eth0
[07:31] <jobo> kelsin yeah, networking restart gives me as expected the same error
[07:31] <ProN00b> Sikh, you can't regard all of those languages as good... c#, java are sucky simply because they are inferior implementations of c++... (python and ruby are just fancy good for nothing scripting languages)
[07:31] <HairyDude> aah, programming language holy wars :)
[07:31] <AlexC_> I'm having problems with uninstalling Apache. I use to have Apache setup on my main PC, but I now have set up a small webserver that is on my network. I have tried removing the packages that I installing on my MAin PC, but when ever I access my web server via my main ip (like 86.121.***.***) it says 404. This is because it's still trying to access the files on my MAIN PC instea of my other small pc I set up - which I have re
[07:31] <AlexC_> moed apache from
[07:32] <Ha1> ProN00b, can you suggest what to do now?
[07:32] <Subhuman> !seveas
[07:32] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:32] <erUSUL> AlexC_: so 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache*' did not work?
[07:32] <ProN00b> Ha1, i asked something: "Ha1, well, did you find the place where you can switch keyboard layouts ? which one do you currently use ?"
[07:32] <AlexC_> erUSUL: yet to try it, hold on
[07:32] <Ha1> I answered
[07:32] <humbolto> how can I allow certain users (in a certain group) to run users-admin hence administer the users of the system?
[07:33] <Ha1> ProN00b, I answered. With U.S. English International with Dead keys
[07:33] <erUSUL> AlexC_: ?? how did you removed apache then?
[07:33] <Ashei> what happened?
[07:33] <AlexC_> erUSUL: sudo apt-get remove apache2 [other packages here] 
[07:33] <LjL> !traffic
[07:33] <ProN00b> Ha1, is your keyboard us english ?
[07:33] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[07:33] <erUSUL> humbolto: that's why the admin group exist
[07:33] <AlexC_> erUSUL: I'm just doing a sudo apt-get autoremove now
[07:34] <daxxar> How do I restore a config from a package? :-)
[07:34] <erUSUL> daxxar: define restore
[07:34] <Seveas> daxxar, prune it and reinstall it
[07:34] <daxxar> "revert to base"
[07:34] <humbolto> erUSUL: but the admin group is allowed to do other things as well, which I don't want these users to be able to do! I need a more finegrade config.
[07:35] <smultron> oh, one more question before i go
[07:35] <Ha1> ProN0b, any ideas what now?
[07:35] <smultron> is it normal to have ubuntu boot times be around 2 whole minutes?
[07:35] <kelsin> humbolto: use visudo to edit the sudoers file, man sudoers for more information on the file, you can allow a group to run a certain command etc
[07:35] <Seveas> smultron, depends on what you installed
[07:35] <zoexii> hello, can anyone tell me if there is a bittorrent client that works from commandline?
[07:36] <daxxar> Never,ind, I wanted to revert my sudoers file, but I found the default entries on another box. :-)
[07:36] <smultron> fresh install
[07:36] <humbolto> kelsin: I know how to do that!
[07:36] <Ha1> ProN00b, any ideas what now [Sorry, not being annoying, Ive just gotten reprimnded about not prefixing all with names before] 
[07:36] <Seveas> zoexii, man btlaunchmanycurses
[07:36] <humbolto> kelsin: but that does not do the trick!
[07:36] <erUSUL> humbolto: man sudoers
[07:36] <kelsin> humbolto: how not?
[07:36] <smultron> Seveas, fresh install
[07:36] <zoexii> Seveas, thanks, will try
[07:36] <Seveas> smultron, sounds a bit long...
[07:37] <smultron> yeah, plus there's no graphical "loading" animation... makes it seem even longer... just a blank screen
[07:37] <zoexii> Seveas, doesn't work, maybe I need to install a package?
[07:37] <smultron> with a flickering consol underscore _
[07:37] <humbolto> kelsin: first of all, users-admin is not started with gksu by default!
[07:37] <Seveas> !find btlaunchmanycurses
[07:37] <Ha1> I have a bit of an issue. Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertinent key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam trying to
[07:38] <ProN00b> Ha1, just try more keyboard layouts, there are quite some to choose from, also try googling your keyboards product name in combination with linux or something in the worst case you might need to modify some keyboard layout and make a new one that fits your keyboard, but thats unlikely
[07:38] <ubotu> Package/file btlaunchmanycurses does not exist in edgy
[07:38] <Marupa> hey everyone, I've got a little bug that's bugging me.  I'm trying to run amarok (it was working last night, but crashed) and ps aux | grepping it found the process, but I'm not seeing it at all on my X session.  Any clues?
[07:38] <kelsin> humbolto: then add a new menu entry instead that does, if you're using gnome there are a lot of docs on the gnome sites about administrating menus
[07:38] <humbolto> kelsin: I am not a complete retard. I can edit my menus.
[07:39] <mrcucumber> I'm reading over Scott Raymon's article about refactoring to rest and he says of the reduction in actions: "A big part of that redundancy was in having an Admin module, which quickly proved unnecessary. Instead, I just use before_filters to protect certain actions." but doesn't that mean that he shows different views based on the status of the user, which whould inhbiit caching
[07:39] <voicu> hi, how do i format a diskette?
[07:39] <humbolto> kelsin: but how is users-admin doing the auth magic if it is not using gksu, this is the question to be asked.
[07:39] <mrcucumber> lol, wrong room
[07:40] <Marupa> also, what's that terminal mp3 player?
[07:40] <lojikal> mplayer
[07:41] <Marupa> does it play any/all MP3s from a directory at random?
[07:41] <zybrid> What is the best working way for me to install ati drivers for beryl? freshinstall of 6.10 and X1900XTX
[07:41] <tuskernini> Question: how do i clean the trash via command line?
[07:41] <zybrid> when i type radeon in xorg.conf, X hangs
[07:41] <humbolto> kelsin: If I run the app logged in as a user in the users-admin group, which I created and set to ALL=(ALL) ALL for testing in the sudoers file, I get: The configuration could not be loaded. You are not allowed to access the system configuration
[07:41] <lojikal> no, try mp3123
[07:41] <Marupa> thank you, lojikal .
[07:42] <torbesh> how can i enable built-in card reader on my laptop (ubuntu 6.10)?
[07:42] <kelsin> humbolto: you'd have to ask someone else, I have no experience with ubuntu's admin menu settings
[07:42] <Marupa> lojikal, it's complaining that the argument list is too long.
[07:42] <tuskernini> QUESTION: How do I clear trash (command line)?
[07:43] <ProN00b> torbesh, if it doesn't work by default its likely that its not supported, try contacting your hardware supplier for drivers for linux ^___^
[07:43] <phisikus> Hi
[07:43] <Marupa> go to ~/.Trash and rm the files, tuskernini./
[07:43] <pbureau> tuskernini,  hang in there someone will answer stop repeating yourself
[07:44] <torbesh> how can i enable built-in card reader on my laptop (ubuntu 6.10)?
[07:44] <tuskernini> pbureau, i know when i help someone... i do not no up and look what comments i have missed...
[07:44] <Marupa> torbesh:  ProN00b is right.
[07:44] <AlexC_> Hey,
[07:44] <tuskernini> Marupa, thank you... was thinking there is a command for that
[07:44] <torbesh> benq joybook has no drivers or it
[07:44] <torbesh> for it
[07:44] <Marupa> Welcome, tuskernini.
[07:45] <AlexC_> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu to use a static IP instead of DHCP, but every time I restart the networking via "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument Failed to bring up eth0."  why is this?
[07:45] <Hal_Horn> I have a bit of an issue. Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertainant key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam tryin
[07:45] <Marupa> bah.  this is ticking me off.  x.x  I go crazy without MP3s  :D  I either need some sort of terminal MP3 player or get amarok back working again.
[07:46] <|Jason8|> Hal_Horn, when you install Ubuntu, it asks you what kind of keyboard you have.  You sure you picked the right one?
[07:46] <Marupa> was about to say that, |Jason8|.  You beat me to it.
[07:46] <ProN00b> comeon, Hal_Horn... don't repeat yourself that fast...
[07:46] <cpk1> Marupa: mpd?
[07:46] <Baloogan> how can I get the copy file dialogs to show bandwidth?
[07:46] <|Jason8|> Marupa, try xmms for an MP3 program.  or do you need a terminal player?
[07:46] <Baloogan> like how fast the transfer is going?
[07:46] <juano> what is the networking daemon short in ubuntu? to restart it from console
[07:47] <Marupa> xmms has a weird bug.  it's sound output is extremely quiet.
[07:47] <|Jason8|> Oh.
[07:47] <AlexC_> Marupa: I use Audacious - I love it,
[07:47] <zybrid> What is best? Ati, Radeon or fglrx?
[07:47] <|Jason8|> Marupa, turn down your system sound by like 3%.  it'll go full blast then
[07:47] <Marupa> otherwise I'd use it.
[07:47] <cpk1> Marupa: mpd is command line, also beep media player is xmms but newer basically
[07:47] <Marupa> I'll try that.
[07:47] <|Jason8|> I had the same problem.
[07:47] <zybrid> What is best? Ati, Radeon or fglrx? <- for running beryl
[07:47] <AlexC_> juano: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:48] <|Jason8|> I run mine at half, because otherwise my stereo distorts everything.
[07:48] <|Jason8|> so it's not really a problem.
[07:48] <Marupa> Ahh, I have unamped headphones I use, is why.
[07:48] <juano> AlexC_: ahh thanks :)
[07:49] <Hal_Horn> ProN00b [and the rest of the channel] ; Etiquette question here. I am a total newbie at this. Id like to know how long is an acceptable repeat time. I dont want to see offensive, annoying, or skript kiddie ish
[07:49] <Marupa> at least 5 minutes, Ha1_Horn.
[07:49] <evilrob> so if I'm looking to install ext2online, where might I find a resource to tell me what package that is in.
[07:49] <AlexC_> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu to use a static IP instead of DHCP, but every time I restart the networking via "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument Failed to bring up eth0."  why is this?
[07:49] <Marupa> evilrob apt-cache search <somefile>
[07:50] <ProN00b> Hal_Horn, also, i gave you a little help on what you can try, you could at least tell us in more detail what you have tried already
[07:50] <evilrob> and if it comes back empty I'm SOL ??
[07:50] <erUSUL> AlexC_: have you posted your /etc/network/interfaces file to a pastebin?
[07:50] <AlexC_> erUSUL: nope, let me do it
[07:51] <AlexC_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2761/
[07:51] <cpk1> evilrob: no, there could still be a .deb somewhere on the internet or you could build it yourself
[07:51] <evilrob> well yeah...  I know hwo to do that, I was justexpecting this "wonderful somple distro" to actually be simple.
[07:51] <HairyDude> hrm, the one in universe is ugly by default too.
[07:52] <cpk1> evilrob: if you find a .deb somewhere else it still will be really simple
[07:52] <Marupa> |Jason8|, now it doesn't have any volume whatsoever.
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> ProN00b; What I have tried so far is general fiddling with all keyboard options. Ive also tried setting layout to all US or UK keyboards, one at a time. I have also tried to use every model of generic keyboard, as well as every Genius keyboard. Nothing has worked.
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> Personally, because it usually produces mlauts when only one tap, I think it might be a language support option/
[07:53] <AlexC_> evilrob: or even a .rpm file and convert it with alien
[07:53] <pbureau> Hal_Horn,  are you perhaps using a wireless keyboard?
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> pbureau: Nope.
[07:54] <|Jason8|> Marupa, that sounds pretty odd.  I've never had that problem.  Works fine for me.
[07:54] <|Jason8|> Let me boot up my ubuntu compy and vnc to it.
[07:54] <Marupa> I've got double cards, that might be why.
[07:54] <Marupa> one's a SiS, one's a C-media
[07:54] <gizmo_the_great1> I am having major problems connecting my laptop to my wireless router. It works fine via ethernet and it worked before with Ubuntu until I had to re-install. How can I determine whether it's my laptop not picking up the signal or the router notgranting it access? I have wlassistant and it says no networks found.
[07:55] <Hal_Horn> Any ideas, anyone, now that you have more info?
[07:55] <Marupa> I still say it's the keyboard layout.  It's the only thing that'd make sense in this case.
[07:56] <Hal_Horn> Well, Ive tired every keyboard layout/keyboard model combo I could think of
[07:56] <cpk1> Marupa: but sound is fine from mpg123-alsa or mpg123?
[07:56] <Hal_Horn> My keyboard is a Genius Comfy KB-21e-Scroll, just to iterate it
[07:56] <Marupa> double-checking, cpk1.
[07:56] <luca>  anybody know how use to gnupg program in php?
[07:56] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  what wifi card chipset ?
[07:56] <erUSUL> AlexC_: try disabling network keyword like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2762/
[07:57] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: how do I determine that?
[07:57] <Marupa> Nada, now, cpk.
[07:57] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  lspci in terminal
[07:57] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: give me 2 ticks....
[07:57] <AlexC_> erUSUL: nope, that doesn't work either =\
[07:57] <LjL> /who ubuntu/member/seveas
[07:57] <cpk1> Marupa: I would check alsamixer and make sure all the levels are set correctly
[07:57] <|Jason8|> gizmo_the_great1, I had that problem when I first installed.  Go into your network settings and type in the name for your home network.  That was my problem, could be yours.
[07:57] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  answer in private... be easier
[07:57] <sycho> I'm looking to format and reinstall feisty. I have a 120 gig HD and want to partition it to keep my home directory separate. Any ideas on how much space I should give to Feisty?
[07:58] <Marupa> Oh, wait...
[07:58] <erUSUL> AlexC_: sudo ifconfig eth0 inet up 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255
[07:58] <Marupa> I'm just a total moron.
[07:58] <gizmo_the_great1> |Jason8|: already done that, but thanks anyway
[07:58] <Marupa> Wireless headphones need to be ON to listen to music.
[07:58] <AlexC_> erUSUL: shouldn't that be 192.168.1.2
[07:58] <cpk1> hahaha
[07:58] <|Jason8|> Marupa, heyyyyyyyyyy!
[07:58] <Lunar_Lamp> sycho, 10gb for the base install would be absolutely loads. 5gb would be enough for base install and many packages. If you plan on installing a lot, you could got for about 10gb with a separate /home.
[07:58] <Marupa> but xmms is still quite quiet.
[07:59] <kelsin> Running display for me generates "display: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'." This is on a new edgy system, any ideas? can't find anything on the forums
[07:59] <AlexC_> erUSUL: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument again =\
[07:59] <pbureau> Marupa,  isnt there an option to change volume output on xmms?
[07:59] <cpk1> Marupa: check alsamixer and make sure you have the levels turned up
[07:59] <cpk1> and tell xmms to use alsa
[07:59] <Marupa> double-checking again..
[07:59] <Hal_Horn> Anyone got any more ideas?
[07:59] <Marupa> xmms is using alsa.
[08:00] <sycho> Lunar_Lamp: I'm not really sure how many packages. Maybe I'll just go with the 10 gigs to be safe. I'm still new to ubuntu and linux
[08:00] <Marupa> cpk1, The levels are fine.
[08:01] <pbureau> how do you register an account. (they locked non registered accounts
[08:01] <sycho> Lunar_Lamp: Would there be even a better way to partition my HD for better optimization?
[08:01] <AlexC_> pbureau: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[08:01] <pbureau> danke
[08:02] <Marupa> any ideas, cpk1 |Jason8| ?
[08:02] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  so whats the lspci tell you ?
[08:02] <|Jason8|> um... Marupa, got any speakers laying around?  I'd test with those.  Or test the headphones on something else.
[08:02] <|Jason8|> maybe it's not a problem with the program
[08:02] <Hal_Horn> Anyone got any keyboard help ideas?
[08:02] <erUSUL> AlexC_: AlexC_ yes it should i always get it wrong
[08:02] <cpk1> Marupa: not sure this applies for you but when i was getting my digital out to work i was having problems with low volume because my ac97 levels werent all the way to 0
[08:02] <Marupa> the headphones are fine when I'm listening to my MP3 player or with amarok.
[08:03] <pbureau> Hal_Horn,  got another spare keyboard around to see if it doing the same thing ?
[08:03] <AlexC_> erUSUL: it should display that???
[08:03] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: sorry mate - I was in the private chat bit :-) It lists loads of Intel stuff, 82801BA for things like 'Mobile PCI Bridge' and Ethernet Controller but no mention of wireless specifically
[08:03] <Marupa> xmms is the only quiet one, as far as I've seen.
[08:03] <AlexC_> erUSUL: I mean, it still says the same error,
[08:03] <cpk1> i take it the volume on xmms is turned up? =P
[08:03] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  lookinto hardinfo,and what it finds.
[08:04] <Hal_Horn> pbureau, no such luck
[08:04] <AlexC_> erUSUL: when I set up the static IP - I can still see the PC on the network, it can access the router and everything, it just can't get to the outside world. Such as "ping www.google.co.uk" returns connect: Network is unreachable
[08:04] <boricua> !xfce
[08:04] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:04] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: sorry - not sure I understand? Is that a /proc command or do you mean via the admin menu?
[08:04] <Smokie_joe> help
[08:04] <AlexC_> !help Smokie_joe
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help Smokie_joe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <AlexC_> hum,
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> lol sry
[08:05] <Marupa> yes, cpk1.
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> i want to get the irc help ^^
[08:05] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  do you use Gnome ?
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> and i forgot the /
[08:05] <|Jason8|> is xubuntu any faster than ubuntu?  I'm running it on a 450 MHz AMD... so I'm looking for any performance boost I can get.
[08:05] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: yes - i looking in 'device manager' now
[08:05] <AlexC_> |Jason8|: try it and see,
[08:06] <Marupa> well, alternatively, I could use some help getting amarok back working again.
[08:06] <The_StalLion> hi - does anyone here have gmail? if so, please could you invite aperson85@hotmail.com thanks
[08:06] <ShadowX> sup guys?
[08:06] <AlexC_> The_StalLion: does this look like a gmail channel?
[08:06] <xored> |Jason8|: no offense to ubuntu users but in that situation, use arch linux with fluxbox or anything like that
[08:06] <recon> The_StalLion: this really isn't the place to ask that.
[08:06] <Marupa> it is indeed working, the process is running, but X isn't registering it as running, for osme reason.
[08:06] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: ok - it says'PCI1410 PC Card Bus Controller --> WaveLAN/IEEE --> WLAN Interface --> Unknown Device
[08:06] <ShadowX> anyone know how I can install a package from an RPM in Ubuntu?
[08:06] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: does that help?
[08:06] <AlexC_> ShadowX: use alien to convert it to a .deb
[08:06] <Marupa> use alien, ShadowX.
[08:06] <erUSUL> AlexC_: weird if i put your config in my ifaces file i get the same error as you but in the comand line with sudo ifconfig eth0 inet up 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 it works :(
[08:07] <|Jason8|> xored, I'll look into it.  Thanks.
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: whats wrong with amarok
[08:07] <Marupa> it's not showing up, cpk1,.
[08:07] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  click on it and click on details whats doe sit say ?
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: you could also try exhaile its supposed to be amarok with gtk more or less
[08:07] <Marupa> that doesn't solve the problem of the invisible amarok, though.
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: not showing up? tries to load and then doesnt?
[08:08] <Marupa> it loads, there's no icon or anything though.
[08:08] <erUSUL> AlexC_: i'm a stupid!!! you have in the interfaces file a netmas with *225* not *255* as it should!!!
[08:08] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: device type : net80211, net.interface : eth1, WLAN Interface, etc etc
[08:08] <raavi> Marupa: check on system try
[08:08] <Marupa> what, raavi?
[08:08] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: eth1 is set as my default connection in netowrk manager too
[08:08] <raavi> Marupa: System tray
[08:08] <AlexC_> erUSUL: hahah, why didn't I notice that!!
[08:08] <Marupa> that's where it usually resides.  It's not there, raavi.
[08:09] <AlexC_> erUSUL: thank you, I shall try it now - hopefully it should work
[08:09] <raavi> Marupa: Can you try to open amarok on a konsole
[08:09] <erUSUL> AlexC_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2764/
[08:09] <raavi> Marupa: let us see...from the what is causing the problems...
[08:09] <Marupa> ok, the playlist popped up, but the rest is still missing, raavi.
[08:09] <TheVault> I got some questions and I need some help
[08:09] <Hal_Horn> Ok guys
[08:09] <[SilverFox] > is there any easy like in the add/remove applications anything good for desktop stuff theres this one forget name but has a hard install looking for like desktop type mods :D
[08:09] <Hal_Horn> Currently using a different keyboard
[08:10] <AlexC_> erUSUL: works like a charm! thanks!
[08:10] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  hang on let me check something
[08:10] <erUSUL> AlexC_: no problem
[08:10] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: will do my friend :-)
[08:10] <raavi> Marupa: You have to check the configuration.....
[08:10] <Hal_Horn> In here, it typs one 'per tap, BUT it still different to the real thing, and console doesnt reconise it
[08:10] <kelsin> My display problem was solved, the font lines in my xorg.conf were wrong for some reason... fixed now
[08:10] <TheVault> I got some questions, does anyone care to help me?
[08:11] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: i just realised the 'unknown device' is what is listed as wifi0 but that has never been used. Before, it was eth1 too, and that seems to be recognised herre as the WLAN Interface' already described above
[08:11] <raavi> TheVault: What is your question.
[08:11] <TheVault> Alright, Last night I dual booted with Windows Xp on my Dell computer for the first time, everything went smoothly until I reached the point of connecting wirelessly
[08:11] <Marupa> ok....loading it, kinda.  it just sits there saying 'QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image' over and over again, no window shows up now.
[08:12] <Hal_Horn> Guys, I tried a different keyboard. It works the same, basicaly
[08:12] <TheVault> Well I went to Administration > Networking and enabled the wireless setting thing
[08:12] <TheVault> I entered my ESSID and my password for my login for my wireless network
[08:12] <TheVault> and it does not connect me to my network
[08:12] <TheVault> I also made a video which I am uploading right now to show you what I mean
[08:13] <raavi> TheVault: Check out what encription...
[08:13] <humbolto> When I put "xxx ALL=/usr/bin/update-manager" in the sudoers file, I am still not able to run update-manager as user xxx
[08:13] <TheVault> I have WPA-SK
[08:13] <TheVault> Instead of WEP, I use WPA-SK
[08:13] <raavi> TheVault: Use iwlist yourinterface scan
[08:13] <Hal_Horn> Alrighty, everyone. Its a config issue, not a keyboard thing. So now what?
[08:14] <TheVault> Iwlist?
[08:14] <raavi> Your interface might be ethx x=0,1,....
[08:14] <Marupa> make sure you have the right layout and language selected, Hal_Horn.
[08:14] <Hal_Horn> Is there any way I can, say, just change the settings on two keys?
[08:14] <raavi> try ifconfig
[08:14] <raavi> to find interface...
[08:14] <TheVault> alright, 1 moment
[08:14] <Hal_Horn> Marupa, to the best of my knowedge, I do
[08:14] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: is it causing problems?
[08:14] <TheVault> i put this in terminal correct?
[08:14] <raavi> Are you sure does the modules are loaded properly for your wireless card
[08:15] <raavi> yes in terminal.
[08:15] <Marupa> go to System->Preferences->Keyboard, then the layouts tab.
[08:15] <TheVault> Alright, 1 moment Raavi
[08:15] <ShadowX> Ubuntu can install .deb, right?
[08:15] <Marupa> should be keyboard model Generic 105 key (intl)  and U.S. English
[08:15] <gizmo_the_great1> ShadowX: yes - use dpkg
[08:15] <ShadowX> kk
[08:15] <Marupa> that should allow even your special keys to work, Hal_Horn.
[08:15] <fdoving> ShadowX: yes, that's what it does. don't install just any .deb though. it should preferably be a .deb made for ubuntu/kubuntu.
[08:15] <TheVault> alright, what do I look for?
[08:15] <raavi> What happens...
[08:16] <monteiro> i can't burn with k3b, i've the folowing error: [growisofs]  :-( Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080 (this happens only with data cd/dvd not audio)
[08:16] <TheVault> bunch of text
[08:16] <raavi> Do you see the scan list...
[08:16] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: Special keys?
[08:16] <ShadowX> well, I wanna install Limewire, but I can only get an rpm for it
[08:16] <TheVault> scan list?
[08:16] <ShadowX> or windows, and I REALLY dont wanna run wine, cuz it sux
[08:16] <Marupa> like any media keys on your keyboard (play/pause/stop, etc)
[08:16] <raavi> what is your interface
[08:16] <raavi> eth...
[08:16] <TheVault> here is the video I made
[08:16] <TheVault> 	http://rapidshare.com/files/13207991/ubuntuwirelesshelp.wmv.html
[08:17] <crimson> hey, my trash applet has disappeared and i get an unusual message when i try to  replace it on my panel, saying that the applet has been deleted. anyone got a solution?
[08:17] <TheVault> I just made that, I don't know if that will help with this problem
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: They work. Kind of.
[08:17] <Marupa> shadowX  If you want to run windows, try vmWare.
[08:17] <TheVault> I filmed my screen
[08:17] <raavi> First. What chip is that for wireles..
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: The play/pause media key works.
[08:17] <Marupa> are the layouts set to those, Hal_Horn?
[08:17] <kikabola> hello, everybody
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: So does the stop and volume ones.
[08:17] <TheVault> one moment
[08:17] <monteiro> ShadowX : use alien to convert rpm to deb :)
[08:18] <Marupa> so do mine.  But I believe those work no matter what.
[08:18] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: ALl media keys EXCEPT Forward/Backward ong works
[08:18] <TheVault> Broadcom 4311, would that be it
[08:18] <humbolto> humbolt@doroga:~$ gksudo "update-manager"
[08:18] <humbolto> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:18] <humbolto> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:18] <humbolto> what is wrong?
[08:18] <telecentro> 123
[08:18] <Tsool> Hiya! What file should I edit to avoid loading the module usbhid at boot?
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:19] <TheVault> Raavi - my chip is inside my notebook, built in
[08:19] <TheVault> wish I could show you visually
[08:19] <bauer77> if I log into a windows share with credentials to access that share (network) , how do I disconnect it so it prompts for username and password again?
[08:19] <raavi> Yes for sure it is built in..
[08:19] <|Jason8|> Is there a way to set hotkeys in xmss like Winamp allows?
[08:19] <Tsool> Int: My nipples explode with delight! I'll put a line there - which part sez that it *should* be loaded?
[08:19] <raavi> Do you have any idea about the chip..
[08:20] <TheVault> the name of my wireless network card?
[08:20] <pollywog> Edgy has already been released, right?
[08:20] <raavi> Yeah..
[08:20] <Hal_Horn> So, any ideas with regards to my keyboard? Sorry for te ongoingness, but Im confident that Ive covered all the bases I can see
[08:20] <bauer77> yes pollywog
[08:20] <TheVault> oh,
[08:20] <raavi> Try using lspci to find that...
[08:20] <kikabola> i am partitioning my HD and i left 17 GB for swap.  im installing 6.1, will i be able to change the partitioning once its installed?
[08:20] <pollywog> I notice that I still get updates that are not security updates
[08:20] <humbolto> what is the difference between gksu and gksudo?
[08:20] <octal> Hal_Horn, what's the problem?
[08:21] <pollywog> so that is different from Debian, because once a Debian release is out, the only updates are fixes
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: modprobe -l will list all the driver modules the kernel knows about, and that list is set by doing depmod -ae
[08:21] <Hal_Horn> octal, Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertainant key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam trying to learn. I think
[08:21] <TheVault> is that a 1 in the beginning of the s for that command you gave me raavi
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: There are other files in /etc/modprobe.d/ such as 'whitelist' and 'aliases'
[08:21] <raavi> l-lord
[08:22] <TheVault> sorry
[08:22] <raavi> No apologies
[08:22] <ShadowX> woohoo, I made my first .deb
[08:22] <pollywog> but I guess nothing new is added post-release, right?
[08:22] <ShadowX> and am installing it, and I actually used commandline to do something useful!! yay! :P
[08:22] <TheVault> keeps saying command not found when I enter that in raavi
[08:22] <Marupa> is there a way to make XMMS minimise to tray?
[08:23] <Julian87> hello
[08:23] <raavi> you must be a root to use that
[08:23] <raavi> sudo su lspci
[08:23] <raavi> sorry
[08:23] <TheVault> ahh ok
[08:23] <TheVault> its good
[08:23] <lskd-255> shadowx, congratulations :)  I hope it's a success and you make many more
[08:23] <raavi> sudo lspci
[08:23] <ShadowX> thanks lskd-255
[08:23] <octal> Hal_Horn, try AltGr + " and AltGr + '
[08:24] <raavi> Did you see the card info
[08:24] <raavi> or..
[08:24] <octal> That happened to me using SciTe, but not using Gnome. Beats me.
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> AltGr?
[08:24] <TheVault> hold on
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Whats the Gr?
[08:24] <octal> Hal_Horn, right alt.
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Ah, k
[08:24] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: r u still there?
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Woah
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Thats awesone
[08:24] <octal> What kb layout are you using, btw?
[08:24] <pollywog> is there a place where I can find out about universe and the other Ubuntu specific stuff in sources.list?
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Octal, youre my hero
[08:24] <octal> Hal_Horn, :-)
[08:24] <goodgerster> evenin', all
[08:24] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:24] <raavi> pollywog: You can enable that in synaptic
[08:25] <pollywog> raavi: oic
[08:25] <pollywog> ty
[08:25] <Hal_Horn> octal, can I change it so it just does ' by default>?
[08:25] <Marupa> just a small question of mine, goodgerster.
[08:25] <goodgerster> raavi: back in my day we used nano and liked it! :P
[08:25] <gizmo_the_great1> goodgerster: I think pbureua is helping me - he went off about 10 minutes to look something up - but he not been back?
[08:25] <goodgerster> Marupa: go on
[08:25] <grimeboy> How do I mount cue/bin files?
[08:25] <goodgerster> gizmo_the_great1: well, I'll help if possible
[08:25] <grimeboy> !cue
[08:25] <Marupa> any way to get xmms to minimise to tray?  And/or get amarok to appear?
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <octal> Hal_Horn, I'm not sure. I had that problem with specific applications, like Scite, IIRC.
[08:25] <octal> Hal_Horn, what keyboard layout are you using, btw?
[08:26] <goodgerster> grimeboy: google for "linux convert cue/bin to iso" and "linux mount iso"
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: Vim is great...
[08:26] <Hal_Horn> Us International Dead keys
[08:26] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Okay, thanks.
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: Ofcourse nano is simple to use.
[08:26] <goodgerster> raavi: probably, yes. but far too convoluted
[08:26] <Marupa> that's why, Hal_Horn.
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: :)
[08:26] <Hal_Horn> What do I change it to, then?
[08:26] <goodgerster> Marupa: does amarok give a specific error, for instance in the terminal?
[08:26] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:26] <TheVault> alright, searching now raavi
[08:26] <grimeboy> goodgerster, And by convoluted you mean excellent?
[08:26] <Marupa> US.S. english and generic 105 key.
[08:26] <goodgerster> grimeboy: no, I mean ludicrously complex
[08:26] <|Jason8|> Hal_Horn, change it to Generic 105 international
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: otherwise you can send it to me...I can find that...for you.
[08:27] <TheVault> that works
[08:27] <Marupa> no, it doesn't goodgerster.
[08:27] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  check you private window
[08:27] <octal> Hal_Horn, what editor are you using?
[08:27] <TheVault> i am using my
[08:27] <grimeboy> Not really compared to emacs.
[08:27] <goodgerster> grimeboy: actually, I just can't be arsed to learn a bookful of keyboard commands
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: which one, you mean
[08:27] <TheVault> laptop to do the work on and my desktop to talk with you
[08:27] <Hal_Horn> editor for what?
[08:27] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, what happens when it's run?
[08:27] <octal> Hal_Horn, for programming.
[08:27] <TheVault> I'm searching, hold on
[08:27] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: i have done - i typing in it - you not see anything?
[08:27] <Hal_Horn> python, in the terminal
[08:27] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Cream is fun to start with.
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: I see.
[08:27] <Marupa> it just sits there saying 'QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image' over and over again, no window shows up now.
[08:27] <goodgerster> grimeboy: bluefish ftw
[08:28] <lskd-255> what's the deal with locked directories?
[08:28] <instabin> How do I change the default gnome loading image
[08:28] <TheVault> lemme just copy whats on my screen onto my ipod and I'll upload it for ya
[08:28] <goodgerster> Marupa: that's an error. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <TheVault> 1 moment
[08:28] <cpk1> grimeboy: i think what you need is bchunk
[08:28] <grimeboy> goodgerster, I used that for a while. It's quite good but it's python highlighting messed up.
[08:28] <Marupa> 6.10
[08:28] <raavi> instabin: You mean the splash screen or..
[08:28] <goodgerster> instabin: there's an application for changing it, you can find it in synaptic
[08:28] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: can you see the messages?
[08:28] <pollywog_> btw is it okay to lurk in the channel?
[08:28] <goodgerster> grimeboy: I've never had trouble
[08:28] <grimeboy> cpk1, Ah, thanks
[08:28] <XVampireX> How does one go about restoring files on ext3?
[08:28] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Must have been fixed.
[08:28] <goodgerster> pollywog_: yes, as long as you don't spam/annoy
[08:28] <instabin> goodgerster do you know what the app is called
[08:29] <pollywog_> goodgerster: ty
[08:29] <krang> Hey all. If I want a nice stable and secure server, is it best to go for Ubuntu server 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:29] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  nope proably because you need to register the nick your using /msg nickserv register <password>
[08:29] <goodgerster> krang: 6.06
[08:29] <cpk1> pollywog_: over 1k people in channel, i think some of them are lurking =)
[08:29] <goodgerster> instabin: no, but google probably does... gnome-splash or something
[08:29] <krang> goodgerster: That's what i figured. Cheers
[08:29] <raavi> krag: It depends what is going to run on that server.
[08:29] <grimeboy> pollywog_, Its not really lurking if you ask first is it?
[08:29] <pollywog_> I guess not
[08:29] <grimeboy> +'
[08:29] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:29] <goodgerster> I love XCHAT scripting, I really do
[08:29] <Marupa> never finished answernig mine, goodgerster.
[08:30] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: basically I notice it says 'Access Point --> None' for the eth1 connection
[08:30] <AlexC_> Hey, How can I give user "web" access to /var/www ?
[08:30] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: does that suggest that it does not know about the wireless router at all?
[08:30] <TheVault> raavi : http://thevault.kingofhosts.com/command.txt
[08:30] <cpk1> Marupa: does amarok still play? is it only the gui that is messed up?
[08:30] <TheVault> thats why it displays
[08:30] <pollywog_> there should be a bot named captain peacock to ask "are you being served"
[08:31] <Marupa> I can't get it to play if there's no menu or GUI, cpk.
[08:31] <krang> AlexC_: Try putting a symlink to it in /var/www/html?
[08:31] <goodgerster> Marupa: good point. have you tried reinstalling amarok, googling with the error, checking that you've got all the dependencies correctly installed, checking that you've not used Automatix or similar?
[08:31] <cpk1> Marupa: open a console and do amarok --play
[08:31] <Marupa> it was working yesterday.
[08:31] <grimeboy> pollywog_, Why peacock? Do you mean like Joe Peacock?
[08:31] <goodgerster> Marupa: has anything changed since then?
[08:31] <pollywog_> grimeboy: the character from the British comedy
[08:31] <TheVault> raavi : so is that what your looking for?
[08:32] <Marupa> not that I know of, goodgerster.
[08:32] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  well lets get ubuntu to reconize and work the wifi card first
[08:32] <goodgerster> Marupa: has the problem persisted across sessions and reboots?
[08:32] <Marupa> and no, cpk1, running that doesn't help.
[08:32] <Marupa> yep.
[08:32] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: OK - how do we do that? I thought it did recognise it?
[08:32] <nevin> can anyone help me getting 3d support while keeping my aiglx?
[08:32] <pollywog_> "Are You Being Served" I think it is called in the US
[08:32] <curiosidad> Hi there. After update at Edgy I found that gnome kicks me out saying "there's another panel running". I tried ps -a from a text terminal but I couldm't locate gnome/panel app. Any ideas\
[08:32] <raavi> TheVault: Very unfortunate, it tells unknown device
[08:32] <goodgerster> cpk1: any ideas? I've not used Qt apps
[08:32] <TheVault> oh god
[08:32] <TheVault> so that means I can't have wireless?
[08:32] <raavi> TheVault: but it indentifies as broadcom
[08:33] <grimeboy> pollywog_, I'm not a usian, just ignorant.
[08:33] <TheVault> so this means i cannot have wireless?
[08:33] <goodgerster> nevin: aiglx doesn't negate 3d support. you just need to install the appropriate driver. what sort of graphics card do you have?
[08:33] <Marupa> woah.  o.o
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: Did you check in www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:33] <Marupa> uninstalling amarok....and holy crap, ther's a bunch of dependencies.
[08:33] <nevin> goodgerster, i have an ati x300m
[08:33] <TheVault> yeah, alotta that stuff is not making sense
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: No, I dont mean that...
[08:33] <pbureau> gizmo did you register you nick so we can take this privatly
[08:33] <goodgerster> Marupa: goodo
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: but you may need some more hacking..and tweaking.
[08:33] <cpk1> Marupa: amarok depends on kde is why
[08:33] <goodgerster> nevin: google for "edgy fglrx" then, and follow the instructions
[08:34] <cpk1> Marupa: first I would try to run amarok as a different user
[08:34] <octal> Is anyone else having trouble installing racoon under dapper?
[08:34] <jenda> Hey hola - I just found out my outgoing email messages contain my IP in them. Is there anything i can do about that?
[08:34] <kikabola> can anyone help me with the text-based installer?
[08:34] <raavi> TheVault: Just wait, I am searching in the guide.
[08:34] <TheVault> Alright
[08:34] <goodgerster> nevin: why did you think that AIGXL negates 3d support? it's partly dependent upon it
[08:34] <goodgerster> kikabola: yep, what's the trouble?
[08:34] <jenda> kikabola: what's the matter?
[08:34] <jenda> 
[08:34] <TheVault> I can switch back into Windows and tell you the exact name of my Wireless network card if ya want
[08:34] <nevin> goodgerster, i used to have fglrx installed in dapper with xgl support with compiz, but when i update to edgy it didn't work
[08:34] <jenda> I'll leave it to you (gotta run)
[08:34] <Zatar> hello. I was trying to install XGL and compiz, but I messed something up. Now I can't boot into Ubuntu. Is there a way I can "revert" the system to a previous state where it booted?
[08:34] <bertam> Hi everyone, I'm trying to mount a new HDD in ~/Storage, but it always mounts as read only (owned by root).  How can I mount it rw for my user?  I've tried many settings in my fstab, but nothing works.  Thanks!
[08:34] <kikabola> i got a warning that some of the files are corrupt, and im in the middle of an install
[08:34] <|Jason8|> Why is everyone worried about having their IP address sent out in emails?
[08:35] <kikabola> should i download another version?
[08:35] <raavi> TheVault: okay..you can do that..
[08:35] <goodgerster> nevin: edgy upgrades break a lot of stuff. reinstall fglrx
[08:35] <TheVault> raavi : alright, booting into windows now
[08:35] <nevin> goodgerster, alright... ill be back then
[08:35] <goodgerster> bertam: set the triple number thingy to 007
[08:35] <raavi> TheVault: Do you use edgy or ...
[08:35] <Marupa> I don't know, |Jason8|.  nothing they can do for or against it anyway.
[08:35] <AlexC_> how do I remove a system link??
[08:35] <TheVault> I use 6.10 so whatever that is
[08:35] <bertam> goodgerster, do you mean umask=007?
[08:36] <AlexC_> TheVault: 6.10 is Edgy
[08:36] <goodgerster> bertam: yeah. what is it now?
[08:36] <TheVault> Thanks AlexC
[08:36] <goodgerster> AlexC_: RM like any other file
[08:36] <TheVault> I am still new to Linux and I am swarming my brain with everything to know
[08:36] <goodgerster> I think I need a new acronym: GIYF (google is your friend)
[08:36] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  I did a search for net80211 and I cannot find anything about it... lspci should see a wireless card for example it looks like this (sort of) on my pc  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[08:37] <AlexC_> goodgerster: thanks
[08:37] <kikabola> i believe Dan Savage says google f*ing exists (GFE)
[08:37] <goodgerster> kikabola: that's a bit RTFMish, I'd prefer something more gentle
[08:37] <bertam> goodgerster: I've tried setting it to various things, but anytime I have umask in my fstab I get errors when mounting.  I read in a few places that umaks is not supported for ext3?
[08:37] <kikabola> agreed
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: on mine it says Ethernet controller : Intel Corp 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[08:38] <|Jason8|> Marupa, what bugs me is the fact that unless they're using a proxy, they're sending it out anyway. a simple /dns command in mIRC reveals their IP instantly.
[08:38] <goodgerster> kikabola: although I admittedly do feel like screaming "GOOGLE, DAMN YOU!" at times
[08:38] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  okay that makes sence now...
[08:38] <kikabola> so i did google *my* problem...
[08:38] <goodgerster> bertam: the latter is wrong, the former is wierd
[08:38] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: it does? why?
[08:38] <curiosidad> Hi there. After update at Edgy I found that gnome kicks me out saying "there's another panel running". I tried ps -a from a text terminal but I couldm't locate gnome/panel app. Any ideas\
[08:38] <pbureau> cant you private yet ? (registered nick) wanna see other info that would be considered flooding channel
[08:38] <AlexC_> how can I link /home/web/web to /var/www without /var/www making another directory called /web ?
[08:38] <pbureau> because net80211 is not a network card and 82801BA is
[08:39] <kikabola> but i still dont know what to do about the corrupted files
[08:39] <goodgerster> bertam: my fstab has a umask for every entry, afaik.. *looks*
[08:39] <Marupa> ln -s, AlexC_.
[08:39] <goodgerster> kikabola: what's the trouble?
[08:39] <raavi> TheVault: did you find that...
[08:39] <bertam> goodgerster:  Ok, that's good to know.  I've been on google all morning trying to get this sorted out, and I'm going nuts. :)
[08:39] <TheVault> Raavi: yeah
[08:39] <TheVault> here goes
[08:39] <goodgerster> bertam: actually, I'm only umasking for FAT
[08:39] <AlexC_> Marupa: yeah, I've done that. sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www   but when I do "ls /var/www" I see another directory in there called "web"
[08:40] <TheVault> Dell Wirelesss 1390 WLAN Mini-Card  Rev.3.6
[08:40] <AlexC_> Marupa: I don't want that, I want the files from ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/web
[08:40] <kikabola> i got a warning that some of the files (wireless tools, bsdtools) are corrupt while im installing
[08:40] <TheVault> you want the chipset information?
[08:40] <Zatar> I messed up my Ubuntu, and now I cant boot into it. Is there a way to revert it back, or access the files from the live cd so I can try to.. unmess?
[08:40] <goodgerster> bertam: options for user-mountableness is defaults,users afaik
[08:40] <raavi> Yeah..
[08:40] <goodgerster> Zatar: google "ubuntu livecd chmod"
[08:40] <bertam> goodgerster:  I think I have tried that, but let me try again
[08:40] <lskd-255> I must have done someone in here very wrong
[08:40] <TheVault> Chipset: BCM4311/ BCM2050
[08:40] <Zatar> thx goodgerster =P
[08:40] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: ok - so now what?
[08:41] <Jazon> hi everyone
[08:41] <TheVault> I hope this information helps Raavi
[08:41] <Jazon> i cant get direct rendering working on my i915 (laptop) chipset
[08:41] <Jazon> my xorg.conf is http://rafb.net/p/MmJygA47.html
[08:41] <raavi> TheVault: That is very common series...and it is very unfortunate the it does identify..
[08:41] <kikabola> goodgerster, can/should i abort this install and download another version from somewhere else?
[08:41] <bertam> goodgerster:  I just tried "/dev/hda1	/home/bertam/Storage	ext3	defaults,user	0 0", but it's readable only by root
[08:41] <raavi> What laptop do you use.
[08:41] <TheVault> Yeah
[08:41] <goodgerster> kikabola: whuh?
[08:42] <TheVault> I use Inspiron E1405
[08:42] <cpk1> kikabola: maybe they are corrupt because you had a bad burn?
[08:42] <raavi> TheVault: okay...I see...
[08:42] <Marupa> bertam:  sudo chmod 0755 the directory.
[08:42] <kikabola> i should try to burn again?
[08:42] <bertam> goodgerster: correction, it's writeable only by root.
[08:42] <raavi> TheVault: What is your expertise in linux...can you able to hack a bit...
[08:42] <TheVault> nah
[08:42] <Marupa> bertam:  sudo chmod 0777 the directory.
[08:42] <TheVault> but I can follow step by steps very good
[08:42] <goodgerster> bertam: see Marupa
[08:43] <kikabola> how can i abort an install?
[08:43] <Marupa> ctrl-c, kika?
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault: That is fine...there is one thing called ndispwrapper, it is kind of wrapper for binary drivers...
[08:43] <goodgerster> kikabola: depends how far you've got
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault:Further you can follow www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:43] <AlexC_> when I do "sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www" I end up with another directory inside /var/www ( /var/www/web ) why is this? I want all files in ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/eb
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault: I know, its bit of work to do...but at the end..you will have some fun..
[08:43] <kikabola> marupa, ctrl-c doesn
[08:43] <kikabola> *doesnt
[08:44] <[SilverFox] > whys ubuntu not good enough for xgl??? i checked packages but cant find it!
[08:44] <TheVault> alrighty, I am up for the challenge
[08:44] <lskd-255> !locked
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <ernz> Is anyone here a whiz-kid with mencoder? I need to convert an rmvb to an avi with no clipping/cropping and good frame rates, xvid preferably. If someone could throw together a line for a generic conversion, I would be greatly appreciative.
[08:44] <llonden> How do I gain write-access to my boot/grub/menu.1st file? I want to edit my default OS.
[08:44] <raavi> TheVault: Try following the ndispwrapper section and the section that follows afterwards..
[08:44] <TheVault> so whats the url to get there?
[08:44] <goodgerster> [SilverFox] : ubuntu doesn't use xgl any more, since xgl is a piece of crap. we use XAIGL which is rather tidier
[08:44] <bauer77> what are you looking for Silver Fox more specifically?
[08:44] <goodgerster> llonden: use sudo
[08:44] <forum2006> hi. in which file are the screensaver settings stored?
[08:44] <bertam> Marupa: Ok, now I am able to write to that directory.  I originally created ~/Storage with my user, but the permissions change after I "sudo mount -a".  Will I have to "sudo chmod 077" each time I reboot?
[08:44] <raavi> www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:44] <Marupa> nope, one time thing, bertam .
[08:45] <TheVault> i am there
[08:45] <bertam> Marupa:  Thanks very much for your help!
[08:45] <TheVault> what am I looking for
[08:45] <Marupa> I did the same thing to my 100 GB drive.
[08:45] <bertam> goodgerster:  Thanks very much for your help as well!
[08:45] <goodgerster> bertam: that's fine
[08:45] <[SilverFox] > ok thanks goodgerster i will check out im new to the whole linux desktop
[08:45] <raavi> TheVault: try searching ndispwrapper in that page...if you use firefox try Ctrl+F
[08:45] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:45] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:46] <raavi> TheVault: Before that, you can google a bit about your problem..
[08:46] <[SilverFox] > Ok this what looking for wicked desktop add-ons make all cool and neat looking effects wavy windows all that but there any premade packages for ubuntu i can find in the add/remove
[08:46] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:46] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'm not being served,
[08:46] <goodgerster> [SilverFox] : nope, google for "ubuntu beryl"
[08:46] <raavi> TheVault: like no wireless on BCMxx in ubuntu edgy  ;)
[08:46] <goodgerster> AlexC_: do you require service? :P
[08:46] <AlexC_> goodgerster: when I do "sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www" I end up with another directory inside /var/www ( /var/www/web ) why is this? I want all files in ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/web
[08:46] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:47] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:47] <[SilverFox] > i did but thats compilcated to setup
[08:47] <Marupa> actually, it's very easy, SilverFox.
[08:47] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : it's not at all. There is no other easy way, all you gotta do is a few commands and that';s it - nothing complicated
[08:47] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I have no idea. but nautilus has decent symlink support
[08:47] <Marupa> you just have to add the repositories to apt, and then install.
[08:48] <snart> hello i instlled ubuntu today my first linux :>
[08:48] <Marupa> Hello, Snart.
[08:48] <raavi> [SilverFox] : No, its so simple...if you are not interested on XGL you can try AIGLX
[08:48] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'm SSH'ing into a box which has no X or Gnome - so I do everything via command,
[08:48] <raavi> snart: and, how is it going...
[08:48] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : you don't even have to do any thinking, it tells you what to do!
[08:48] <snart> i am searching for a good faq  page  :>>
[08:48] <[SilverFox] > ok lol
[08:49] <goodgerster> AlexC_: ah. hmm, let's see
[08:49] <raavi> snart: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:49] <snart> thx :)
[08:49] <Rapture> fdas
[08:50] <goodgerster> AlexC_: methinks you have got your ln command mixed
[08:50] <goodgerster> ln -s <target> <file> is the syntax, so "ln -s /var/www /home/youruser/www" (don't use ~, it does wierd things with sudo)
[08:51] <raavi> if you use sudo with ~ it will point to /root
[08:51] <goodgerster> raavi: precisely
[08:51] <Marupa> ok, quick, stupid question.  Best (easy to set up) web server?  Just looking to share some files on the web, nothing super special.
[08:51] <goodgerster> Marupa: apache2
[08:52] <Marupa> any GUI for setting it up?
[08:52] <goodgerster> no.
[08:52] <goodgerster> sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:52] <raavi> Yeah...apache is okay...the rest of the setup depends on you...
[08:52] <Instabin> Can i use xdmcp over the internet. if so what ports do i need to open on my router
[08:52] <Marupa> I'll need a heck of a lot of help then.  I suck at setting up stuff conf wise.
[08:52] <Are-> r
[08:52] <AlexC_> goodgerster: nah, I want to link /home/web/web with /var/www so wouldn't it be the other way around?
[08:52] <goodgerster> then stick the files in /var/www/
[08:52] <raavi> if you want some security...you may need to write some iptables
[08:52] <raavi> for that
[08:53] <max__> what a good alternative ftp clients to gftp?
[08:53] <goodgerster> AlexC_: you want /var/www to redirect to /home/web/web
[08:53] <Marupa> really all I want is like Mac's web shares...pretty simple.
[08:53] <mamboadm> to make something world executable is that 777?
[08:53] <recon> mamboadm:  yep.
[08:53] <AlexC_> goodgerster: ahh, I see
[08:53] <Marupa> 0777, mamboadm.
[08:54] <goodgerster> so, ln -s <target> <shortcut>
[08:54] <goodgerster> i.e. "ln -s /var/www /home...."
[08:55] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:55] <AlexC_> goodgerster: that's not working either. I have "mypage.html" in /home/alex/web but after I did "sudo ln -s /var/www /home/alex/web" mypage.html is not in /var/www
[08:55] <teknowhore> what's the name of the the Add Printer wizard that is in ubuntu?  the System -> Administration -> Add Printer wizard, thing?
[08:55] <Marupa> well, goodgerster, if you could help me set up apache2, I'd be very greatful.
[08:56] <forum2006> noone knows in which file the screensaver preferences are stored?
[08:56] <Asl[a] n> Hi, what kind of a service should I be running if I want to setup a domain that I want to use on the intranet?
[08:56] <goodgerster> Marupa: sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:56] <Marupa> notice that I said set up, not install.
[08:56] <Asl[a] n> does it require a complex setup with bind9?
[08:56] <goodgerster> AlexC_: hmm. does /var/www already exist perchance?
[08:56] <AlexC_> goodgerster: yes, it has files in it
[08:57] <goodgerster> AlexC_: try deleting the entire directory and then recreating it via symlink
[08:57] <dirrt1> marupa XAMPP is easy way to set up Apache MYSQL Per
[08:57] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, to set it up you type "sudo apt-get install apache2" and then close the window...
[08:57] <AlexC_> goodgerster: but I don't want to get rid if /var/www as it has phpmyadmin it in aswell
[08:57] <AlexC_> s/it in/in it
[08:57] <Marupa> that's not setting it up though.  That's default config.
[08:57] <goodgerster> Marupa: after that, put your files in /var/www
[08:58] <TheVault> i am finding nothing on this ndiswrapper thing raavi
[08:58] <dudanogueira> does anyone knows how to install the touchpad synaptics on ubuntu edgy? my scroll ou touchpad isnt working... :(
[08:58] <TheVault> i entered the command in terminal and it don't work
[08:58] <goodgerster> AlexC_: well, try making the symlink target /var/www/somethingelse or moving phpmyadmin to the home dir
[08:58] <Asl[a] n> dudanogueira, fortune cookie: you'll soon find yourself dating with !anyone
[08:58] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, you don't want anything different for "just sharing a few files"
[08:59] <goodgerster> Marupa: indeed, most people don't want anything different for "just hosting a fortune 500 website"
[08:59] <Marupa> but wouldn't that leave me wide open to attacks?
[08:59] <goodgerster> Marupa: why would the developers ship an insecure default configuration?
[09:00] <goodgerster> Marupa: why, indeed, would they make it possible to make it insecure by means of non-default configuration?
[09:00] <Asl[a] n> so anyone? how do i setup a domain group for use solely on the intranet?
[09:00] <bronze_0_1> goodgerster: used to be the standard for *NIXen.
[09:00] <Asl[a] n> is it really difficult thing to do?
 is there anyone that has been able to install a fully working version of GnomeArt manager?
[09:00] <goodgerster> Marupa: this is not windows, one is not expected to spend eight hours making the software fit for purpose
[09:00] <dirrt1> Marupa Goolge XAMpp and Firestarter
[09:01] <Asl[a] n> swx, i think i did on hoary. havent tried since
[09:01] <Marupa> Well, I think I'll skip on apache...for now anyway.
[09:01] <swx> <Asl[a] n> would be interest to? and help me :P
[09:01] <Marupa> though, i do have one more multipart question.
[09:01] <goodgerster> Marupa: fire away
[09:01] <AlexC_> Marupa: are you wanting to install LAMP?
[09:01] <goodgerster> (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) no, he/she/it's not, alex
[09:02] <AlexC_> ah ok,
[09:02] <Marupa> Is there any sort of interface/setup/etc that would A) allow me to share my current playlist, B) take requests from said playlist, and C) allow users to listen?
[09:02] <goodgerster> AlexC_: it's just "for sharing a few files" for which the standard config is apparently inadequate
[09:02] <swx> <Asl[a] n> just install gnome-art and rubygnome
[09:02] <name> do you know a board software that supports syntax highlighting out of the box?
[09:02] <goodgerster> Marupa: yeah, there's a rhythmbox extension for ahavi which does all that
[09:02] <Marupa> I'd like to get back into DJing, but I don't know the best way to do it.
[09:02] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html
[09:03] <whazilla> what am i doin wrong here ?
[09:03] <AlexC_> goodgerster: that's what I'm setting up mine for ... well sharing files and a PHP Proxy to use a college :P
[09:03] <whazilla> trying to update
[09:03] <foutrelis> hi :) I am testing some web apps on my local LAMP server and I would like to install a smtp server for mail tests. I have never attempted anything like this before and therefore I need you help. Anyone could point me to a how-to? Any suggestions are welcome :)
[09:03] <goodgerster> Marupa: oh, I see. you want to broadcast online? I'm not aware that ubuntu can do that, but you can certainly google it. shoutcast is good on windows
[09:03] <aoupi> Marupa: have you looked at shoutcast or icecast?
[09:03] <Marupa> there's no package for ahavi?
[09:03] <Marupa> I was wondering which would be better.
[09:03] <Marupa> shoutcast and icecast.  I've used both before.
[09:03] <whazilla> anybody care to help me upgrade ?
[09:04] <AlexC_> foutrelis: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 - it';s for 6.06 but read some of the sections in there
[09:04] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:04] <goodgerster> Marupa: ahavi is built in. you just need to enable it in rhythmbox
[09:04] <goodgerster> whazilla: what's the trouble?
[09:04] <Marupa> I'm used to Virtual DJ's interface  X3
[09:04] <foutrelis> AlexC_: Looks promising ;) I ll sniff around its sections. thanks
[09:04] <AlexC_> foutrelis: your welcome
[09:05] <Instabin> !xdmcp
[09:05] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[09:05] <goodgerster> whazilla: "sudo update-manager -c -d" usually gets it
[09:05] <Landon> Hey all, I'm trying to figure out "Wine" and I've already sudo apt-get installed wine and it's there, I'm just trying to figure out the next step, anyone have a clue how to get it in my menu bars or if there is something else I need to do?
[09:05] <pbureau> LjL,  busy day eh ?
[09:06] <wolfwalker> Landon, nope
[09:06] <Instabin> Landon: you have to install something with it
[09:06] <Marupa> Ok, I'm now totally lost.
[09:06] <goodgerster> Landon: you need to type "wine" followed by the path of installation executables
[09:06] <pbureau> Landon,  nope never used wine
[09:06] <LjL> pbureau: not really, just some exploiters as usual
[09:06] <AlexC_> Landon: in terminal type "wine path_to_file.exe
[09:06] <goodgerster> e.g. "wine ~/Desktop/setup.exe"
[09:06] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| Just load a program that runs in windows (you know, an exe file) and openit with with wine
[09:06] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks everyone
[09:06] <Landon> That basically answered my question
[09:06] <AlexC_> =)
[09:06] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[09:06] <AlexC_> me me me
[09:06] <AlexC_> :P
[09:06] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| Or right click on that exe file, select run with, and type wine in the run bar
[09:06] <Instabin> Landon : I installed counter stirke or steam and wine puts the short cuts for the installed programs in the menu
[09:06] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I'm aware you're not being served...
[09:07] <Landon> That's cool too
[09:07] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I just tried sudo ln -s /home/alex/web/ /var/www/ and I still get the "web" dir in /var/www/
[09:07] <Landon> I'll have to figure out how to do that
[09:07] <goodgerster> Instabin: really? do tell me how you get steam to run properly
[09:07] <Landon> I'm trying to figure out my photoshop
[09:07] <pbureau> isnt being served either but my wife is at work :) (JOKE!!!)
[09:07] <kanaldra1he> Moin!
[09:07] <wolfwalker> My MadTracker runs very well in Wine :)
[09:07] <goodgerster> Landon: use GIMP
[09:07] <Landon> Heh, I do use GIMP
[09:07] <kanaldra1he> I reset the hostname and my machine can't resolve it
[09:07] <Instabin> goodgerster: it ran right once but now it does not work in wine or cedega
[09:07] <TheJosh> London: Photoshop is a pain and a half to get set up.
[09:07] <Landon> But I was a pro at photoshop before I switched to Linux
[09:07] <wolfwalker> The VSTs don't all run in Wine though.............
[09:07] <wolfwalker> Phooey
[09:08] <bronze_0_1> use PhotoGimp
[09:08] <AlexC_> Landon: because you switched to Linux your no longer a Pro ?
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: swap the /home/alex/web and /var/www around
[09:08] <TheJosh> I got photoshop to work by copying over the files.
[09:08] <shatrat> I think its called Gimpshop
[09:08] <Landon> No, it took me awhile to master GIMP
[09:08] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I've tried, that does nothing
[09:08] <kanaldra1he> Everytime i want to become root with sudo bash i get a `unable to lookup host by gethostbyname
[09:08] <Landon> But I hate the layer system
[09:08] <bronze_0_1> has same menu /command structure as photoshop
[09:08] <krang> Landon: Dude, PS is the one reason I still have a windows box
[09:08] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| you could dual-boot Linux and Windows if you just can't give up photoshop.
[09:08] <wolfwalker> yeah, like krang said
[09:08] <Instabin> ggoodgerster: ill get you the tut if you want though
[09:08] <krang> Landon: Yeah man, the GIMP just doesn't compare.
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: did you move the files from /var/www to /home/alex/web and then delete /var/www before trying to make the symlink?
[09:08] <kanaldra1he> Do i really have to boot into the system with a cd and reset resolv.conf the hard way?
[09:08] <AlexC_> Landon: same here, I did a poll on Ubuntuforums and like 80% wanted a native linux version :P
[09:08] <Landon> krang: Yeah man, it doesn't
[09:08] <rellik> what's a good bittorrent program (gui) that has nice rss auto-download support?
[09:08] <AlexC_> goodgerster: yers,
[09:08] <Landon> AlexC_: See, I'm not the only one : P
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: and?
[09:09] <AlexC_> goodgerster: still a no go
[09:09] <Nalleman> Hi all. I want to watch youtube but it seems like my firefox can't start the clips. should I install some plugin to make it work?
[09:09] <kanaldra1he> Loggin in as user seems to be no problem
[09:09] <whazilla> goodgerster:  thats cmd gave me synaptec witch then told me to dist upgrade witch then told me that my apt is in trouble witch i knew
[09:09] <goodgerster> rellik: uTorrent is quite good, but you'll need to use wine for it
[09:09] <pbureau> hehe I have 2 laptops, 1 linux, 1 windows (games and photoshop)
[09:09] <wolfwalker> So, I notice Winblows writes files all over the flipping disk. How do I get all those files over to the left on my disk so I can resize the partition and install a Linux distro there?
[09:09] <bauer77> I prefer bittornado
[09:09] <goodgerster> !flash | Nalleman
[09:09] <ubotu> Nalleman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <AlexC_> Landon: Gimps brush engine is no where near as advanced as Photoshops, no folder layers in Gimp, no heal tool =(
[09:09] <kanaldra1he> Needless to day that i can't start the grapical applications
[09:09] <goodgerster> AlexC_: there is a heal tool in GIMP 2.3
[09:09] <bauer77> its not the best gui, but it gets the job done..
[09:09] <wolfwalker> Windoze defrag doesn't compact the files all in one place as it should.
[09:10] <Landon> AlexC_: And I hate the fonts
[09:10] <whazilla> goodgerster:  thats cmd gave me synaptec witch then told me to dist upgrade witch then told me that my apt is in trouble witch i knew
[09:10] <Landon> I do like the GIMP filters though, they have some cool ones, much better than Photoshop
[09:10] <pbureau> wolfwalker,  look for another defrager on downloads.com should fix that issue
[09:10] <Asl[a] n> does linux have any file-recovery apps for IDE/SATA harddisks?
[09:10] <marek_> when i try to boot xgl i get "No Screens Found"
[09:10] <AlexC_> goodgerster: untill gimps brush engine gets as advanced as Photoshop's I just can't just it for any serious work
[09:10] <goodgerster> whazilla: yes, you said. did it say anything useful about APT?
[09:10] <whazilla> lol
[09:10] <goodgerster> AlexC_: what's wrong with it? it has full pressure and angle sensitivity..
[09:10] <Instabin> goodgerster: Here ya go http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731 thats for counterstrike:source
[09:11] <krang> Landon: really? I never played much with the filters. Couldn't get far past the clunky interface and lack of tools
[09:11] <wolfwalker> |pbureau:| I'm kinda leary of just trying them at random. Nasty stuff can happen when you mess with your disk with an unknown program. Can you make a recommendation?
[09:11] <whazilla> okey sorry but i need to fix apt
[09:11] <AlexC_> goodgerster: being unable to rotate the brush, scatter the brush, change the brush size all dynamically is just some reasons it's not as advanced
[09:11] <goodgerster> whazilla: yes, what did it say?
[09:11] <pbureau> wolf hang on.. I used to use one.... let me chase the name down for you
[09:11] <whazilla> i pastebinned all of it
[09:11] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:11] <AlexC_> goodgerster: can't add variation to brush size is another
[09:11] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I suggest you have a look at gimp 2.3, it's got some new shizz
[09:11] <whazilla> basicly 404
[09:12] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'll try it out somepoint,
[09:12] <Asl[a] n> does linux have any file-recovery apps for IDE/SATA harddisks?
[09:12] <Landon> krang: Yeah, once you get over that, it really isn't that bad, it's just the filters KILL me
[09:12] <Landon> Err, layers
[09:12] <Landon> The Layers kill me
[09:12] <Landon> I hate having to hit page up and page down
[09:12] <buffi> hi
[09:12] <AlexC_> morning,
[09:12] <goodgerster> Instabin: I'm more interested in making steam work so that it doesn't overlap everything
[09:12] <mwe> evening
[09:12] <erUSUL> !info photorec
[09:12] <ubotu> Package photorec does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <bauer77> is there any way to stream divx, or is it only limited to asf and wmv?
[09:12] <pbureau> wolfwalker,  diskeeper was a good one , free 30 days http://www.diskeeper.com/landing/landing.asp?RId=1046&ad=dk10google&APID=PPS0001292&gclid=CPHZ2dHu-YkCFRnSIgodkhFqPg
[09:13] <LjL> !testdisk | erUSUL, this contains it
[09:13] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[09:13] <Zanarkand> hello everyone, can someone help a newbie here?
[09:13] <krang> Landon: I'd say I'll give the GIMP another try, but I'd be lying :-)
[09:13] <krang> well, must be off. Cya all
[09:13] <goodgerster> Zanarkand: what's the trouble?
[09:13] <whazilla> bauer77:  with xbmc and linux samba shares i stream divx ;)
[09:13] <pbureau> Zanarkand,  ask your question instead of asking if someone can help
[09:13] <whazilla> xbmc == open src ... port it :p
[09:14] <javpnunes> whazzzzuuupp
[09:14] <zoexii> hello, I need window manager advice... I have only 64 MB ram!  Gnome and XFCE are both painfully slow.  All I really want is to run a web browser.
[09:14] <bauer77> thanks whazilla
[09:14] <erUSUL> !testdisk > Asl[a] n
[09:14] <whazilla> whazzaaa
[09:14] <bauer77> pretty self explanatory
[09:14] <Landon> Anyone know where wine puts new stuff at? I just installed PS, but I don't know where the PS exe is
[09:14] <Tomcat_> Landon: ~/.wine
[09:14] <pbureau> Landon,  locate ps.exe
[09:14] <goodgerster> Landon: ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:14] <Zanarkand> sorry, I was just tryng to be friendly, I didn't get much friendliness til this point so.... anyways, I just installed ubuntu on my pc and dont know how to get wine to work on it
[09:14] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks again everyone
[09:14] <LjL> zoexii: for a web browser i would suggest Dillo. as  a WM, well, i'm not really much into that... fluxbox? window maker?
[09:14] <goodgerster> Zanarkand: go to terminal and then type "wine <path to installation executable for windows app>
[09:15] <erUSUL> Zanarkand: 'sudo apt-get install wine' ??
[09:15] <pbureau> what goodgerster  said
[09:15] <Asl[a] n> erUSUL, can ubotu do me a favor by hinting to me an alternative to bind9 that I could use as a name server for the Intranet?
[09:15] <Zanarkand> it's not connected to the internet
[09:15] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: did you try the demo version of Perfectdisk 8 that i suggested earlier today? i ran it & it worked without problem, i've used that to compact & consolidaye my freespace and also used partion magic to free up some empty space ready to install ubuntu
[09:15] <LjL> Asl[a] n: if you just want to have a caching nameserver to speed up lookups in your intranet to Internet hosts, i've used dnsmasq
[09:16] <Zanarkand> see I use bluetooth internet and ubuntu doesnt come with drivers for it so I have to download it on my windows and write it to cd and install it from there
[09:16] <LjL> that's very simple to set up but not altogether powerful
[09:16] <pbureau> Zanarkand,  actually ubuntu has bllutooth software on the cd.
[09:16] <erUSUL> Asl[a] n: i do not know try pming it ;) ( /msg ubotu dns )
[09:17] <Zanarkand> my bluetooth device doesn't use standard drivers
[09:17] <Zanarkand> neither does my cellphone
[09:17] <jpolanco> hi there
[09:17] <AWOSDev7360> Where can I get a comprehensive document about the root user on Ubuntu?
[09:17] <jpolanco> i have a small question..
[09:17] <jpolanco> short one
[09:17] <LjL> !ask
[09:17] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: there is no root user on Ubuntu
[09:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell AWOSDev7360 about root | AWOSDev7360, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:17] <jpolanco> lol
[09:17] <jpolanco> ok
[09:17] <LjL> if that's comprehensive..
[09:17] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: we use "sudo"
[09:17] <jpolanco> what family of processors is a celeron M?
[09:17] <mwe> !root | AWOSDev7360
[09:17] <xerophyte> any cheap linux related content writers here ? if you can write please msg me :)
[09:17] <ubotu> AWOSDev7360: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:17] <pbureau> goodgerster,  actually su works too :)
[09:17] <jpolanco> i'm compiling the kernel..
[09:17] <AWOSDev7360> I run a Samba server so I almost HAVE to have a root user...especially since I am using NT4 member servers
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: its a 386
[09:18] <AWOSDev7360> goodgerster I know that
[09:18] <LjL> pbureau: not without sudo, not by default
[09:18] <jpolanco> not 686?
[09:18] <goodgerster> xerophyte: I've started a blog on it, and can write for you if you wish
[09:18] <buffi> god i cant believe it .i have been havin problems with this comp. i finally fixed some of the problems.
[09:18] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[09:18] <battlesquid> hello i'm trying to install wine, but during ./configure the script fails saying "configure:2486: error: C compiler cannot create executables" i have googled and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37434 suggests updating binutils, but i have the latest binutils installed. i have amd64 ubuntu 6.10
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: well, its a 686 really, but choose 386 if 686 isnt available
[09:18] <LjL> jpolanco: i'd definitely say 686. anyway, cat /proc/cpuinfo i guess
[09:18] <xerophyte> goodgerster, can i msg you
[09:18] <AWOSDev7360> mwe no no no...I have to have root access using a username
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: theres not much difference performance wise
[09:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jpolanco about kernel | jpolanco, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:18] <Zanarkand> :/
[09:18] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: wy
[09:18] <pbureau> LjL,  really... I type Su in any terminal window and its asks for the password... oem install ubuntu  I have on this laptop
[09:18] <jpolanco> ok
[09:18] <buffi> please let me know im here
[09:18] <flankk> jpolanco, if you read the help it gives you a list of processors.
[09:18] <jpolanco> thanks a lot =)
[09:18] <LjL> pbureau: oem install is the culprit
[09:19] <AWOSDev7360> jpolanco yeah it would be a 686 (Celeron M)
[09:19] <rublind> What is the difference between Ubuntu 6.10 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[09:19] <goodgerster> xerophyte: I can't msg back, but you can send your MSN, Google Talk or Yahoo name if you wish to talk
[09:19] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rublind about lts | rublind, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:19] <shatrat> pbureau: it asks for the password but it wont work
[09:19] <shatrat> try it
[09:19] <Asl[a] n> LjL, I don't know if bind9 or dnsmasq is what I want. here's the thing- forget about the internet for now. I want it to have a domain- for all the windows machines to be able to join the domain i set up on the linux box.
[09:19] <rublind> LjL thank you.
[09:19] <wolfwalker> |rublind:| The disk partitioner in 6.10 is better, imho
[09:19] <pbureau> shatrat,  well if you say so it does on my pc. /:)
[09:19] <xerophyte> goodgerster, did you get it
[09:19] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: everything in ubuntu can be done without setting a root prompt
[09:19] <mwe> password*
[09:19] <AWOSDev7360> mwe, LjL, goodgerster: to add computers/users to the domain, and login as administrator from a member server/workstation
[09:19] <xerophyte> goodgerster, ksutha@gmail.com
[09:20] <pbureau> heck ubuntu in gnome even has by default a super user terminal window
[09:20] <buffi> hey yell at me
[09:20] <Zanarkand> so theres no way to download wine onto cd and install it from there?
[09:20] <rublind> Are they implying that Ubuntu 6.10 will not be supported for 3 years?
[09:20] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: why would you log in as administrator?
[09:20] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: uhm, are you sure that sort of thing isn't handled by NetBIOS rather than DNS?
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> mwe okay then...tell me how to get my Windows xp workstation to add itself to the samba domain...
[09:20] <battlesquid> does anyone know where to get wine package (the normal is down it seems)
[09:20] <erUSUL> Asl[a] n: you can set up a wins server with samba iirc
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> LjL ?
[09:20] <Vich|Away> ah, it's good to be back
[09:20] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: you can just login as yourself and then use sudo
[09:20] <topgun553> Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:20] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| When you put in the password it doesn't show asterisks as you type. But the password is still being input. Try it again without looking at the screen as you enter the password.
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> goodgerster on WINDOWS XP?
[09:20] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: samba domain? it works like normal windows domains
[09:20] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| I had the same problem.
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> mwe yes I know
[09:20] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: ah, good point. Samba
[09:20] <LjL> AWOSDev7360, names or Windows networks are handled by NetBIOS as far as i know, not by DNS
[09:21] <LjL> s/or/on/
[09:21] <Zanarkand> ...
[09:21] <[SilverFox] > whats a good cpu/mem desktop thing for Berly...
[09:21] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| It's kind of a security measure I think, so onlookers won't even know how many characters are in your password
[09:21] <topgun553> LjL, Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:21] <AWOSDev7360> LjL what?  usernames are handled by the login server
[09:21] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: yes, and names and domains by NetBIOS
[09:21] <pbureau> I have xp and linux on same network and all pcs see each other without any mods.
[09:21] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: i mean, i have a machine called "ljlbox", and i can type "\\ljlbox" from another machine *without* "ljlbox" being anywhere in a DNS record
[09:22] <mwe> pbureau: that's great ;)
[09:22] <buffi> can some one give me some hints.my windows explorer is messin up.PLEASE RESPOND TO ME
[09:22] <topgun553> LjL, Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> buffi...this is a Linux help channel...try ##windows
[09:22] <Amaranth> buffi: Windows Explorer?
[09:22] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| this is not the windows help chat. But I can try to help. What's up?
[09:22] <mwe> buffi: windows explorer? this is linux support
[09:22] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: ah... uh. well yes.
[09:22] <[SilverFox] > whats a good cpu/mem desktop thing for Berly... maybe something in add/remove im lazy lol
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> LjL :P
[09:22] <LjL> Asl[a] n, see everything i said above to AWOSDev7360 *sigh* ;)
[09:22] <Asl[a] n> lol
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> hahaha :D
[09:23] <Sa`-> hi, i wanted to edit serverl of files like source.list in my etc\apt\ folders and i cannot because iam not the root. ive tried to log in as root and i wont let me edit this file.
[09:23] <whazilla> goodgerster:  care to have a look at my broken apt ?
[09:23] <pbureau> mwe hey bud,, fixed my dlink wifi  card.. (on it today!)
[09:23] <goodgerster> whazilla: sure, why not
[09:23] <Zanarkand> does anyone know how to write wine onto a cd and install it from there?
[09:23] <mwe> pbureau: great
[09:23] <deafboy> how do you give a program more priority on the cpu?
[09:23] <topgun553> Does ANYONE know how I could change the resolution of my laptop montior from my dual montior
[09:23] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:23] <AWOSDev7360> mwe so how do I add my Winxp computer to the domain...without using a root password?
[09:23] <buffi> MY WINDOWS EXPLORER IS CORRUPT,WRONG OR MISSIN?
[09:23] <deafboy> my cpus aren't even maxed out and wow is lagging
[09:23] <LjL> !caps | buffi
[09:23] <ubotu> buffi: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:23] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| go to windows help chat
[09:23] <aoupi> deafboy: man nice
[09:23] <AWOSDev7360> deafboy...sounds like gfx card
[09:23] <whazilla> goodgerster:  u got that otherwise i prefer pm ?
[09:23] <erUSUL> buffi: do you mean the file explorer?
[09:24] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| type /join ##Windows
[09:24] <AWOSDev7360> buffi type  /join ##windows
[09:24] <LjL> topgun553, all i know about it really is dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserverx-org to be honest, and i haven't tried dual monitor yet
[09:24] <goodgerster> buffi: this is for Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[09:24] <AWOSDev7360> wow wolfwarker we think the same way :P
[09:24] <deafboy> aoupi: man nice?
[09:24] <Sa`-> hi, i wanted to edit serverl of files like source.list in my etc\apt\ folders and i cannot because iam not the root. ive tried to log in as root and i wont let me edit this file.
[09:24] <aoupi> deafboy: enter that in a terminal
[09:24] <goodgerster> whazilla: wait a minute, I'm busy currently (as indicated by my "away" status)
[09:24] <whazilla> oopsie
[09:24] <whazilla> laters ;)
[09:24] <whazilla> pm me
[09:24] <deafboy> AWOSDev7360: i have an x1600 with 256 mb of ram :) I'm just running amarok/xchat/wine+wow
[09:24] <HymnToLife> !sudo | Sa`-
[09:24] <ubotu> Sa`-: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:24] <Sa`-> ive tired
[09:24] <aoupi> deafboy: it's the man page for nice, nice lets you change priority on applications
[09:24] <topgun553> LjL,  did i tell you I got dual working yet? well I mean minus a little unfavorable resolution on my laptop
[09:24] <Cyrus25801> is there a good wine tut
[09:25] <RedShift> yow noobs wassup
[09:25] <LjL> Sa`_: what have you tried?
[09:25] <buffi> i tried it sucks not much help.sorry i botherd u all
[09:25] <adaminla> I want to install the driver for my new HP printer. Do I need to have the printer on or off?
[09:25] <RedShift> who's x ain't starting today?
[09:25] <[SilverFox] > WTB good cpu/mem desktop thing for Berly... maybe something in add/remove im lazy lol
[09:25] <mwe> !noob
[09:25] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:25] <Sa`-> ive tire sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[09:25] <Sa`-> and it said E:\ emerald cannot find
[09:25] <RedShift> ubotu: O RLY
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O RLY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <LjL> topgun553: no, but i'd guessed that ;) i suppose that if both monitors are using the same xorg.conf, that could be the culprit... but that's quite a generic statement
[09:25] <Zanarkand> .....
[09:25] <LjL> RedShift: tone down
[09:25] <deafboy> anyone know why wow would lag with only amarok/wow+wine/xchat open?
[09:25] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : if you are too lazy to type a few commands to install Beryl ... then I'm sorry but good luck to anything =)
[09:26] <Zanarkand> T_T
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > Alex!! i installed it
[09:26] <RedShift> LjL: yeah I was just trolling
[09:26] <Sa`-> another help plz. ive tired sudo apt-get install emerald-themes and it said E:\ emerald cannot find
[09:26] <mwe> Sa`-: you probablly didn't add the right repos according to the wiki
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > im looking for a cpu thingy
[09:26] <Sa`-> ammm
[09:26] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : Conky,
[09:26] <Cyrus25801> is there a good wine tut
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > u know cool cpu/mem dashboards
[09:26] <Nalleman> im about to download adobe flash player but im not sure what file i should pick. there are 2 files with ends tar.bz and .rpm. witch should I pick?
[09:26] <Sa`-> i need to add deb things
[09:26] <HymnToLife> deafboy, get more RAM
[09:26] <topgun553> LjL, well I have got a couple problems fixed (sort of) but my friends are telling me (and girlfriend) to give up and go back to windows because I am spending too much time trying to get linux to work.
[09:26] <Zanarkand> [SilverFox]  you'll find it in your chasis, lol
[09:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Sa`- about repos | Sa`-, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:26] <Sa`-> and i cannot edit sources.list
[09:26] <LjL> sa`-: i guess so
[09:26] <aoupi> Nalleman: get the .tar.bz
[09:26] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865&highlight=conky
[09:27] <Asl[a] n> LjL, thanks for that advice. I see where you are going with this. I have no problems seeing one machine on the network fro anther. but i really want is for it to be able to see or login to a machine when i type something like ljlbox.ubuntu.edu - or another machine like tests.ubuntu.edu
[09:27] <buffi> hey erUSUL thank u
[09:27] <Sa`-> how do i edit files with sudo?
[09:27] <[SilverFox] > ty
[09:27] <AlexC_> Sa`-: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[09:27] <HymnToLife> Sa`-, sudo nano /path/to/file
[09:27] <Zanarkand> TobiF, I think I agree
[09:27] <aoupi> Nalleman: well, it is problably called .tar.gz but still :)
[09:27] <deafboy> HymnToLife: i have 2 gigs
[09:27] <Jowi> topgun553, no worries. they will thank you later
[09:27] <rebz> what packages do i need to install to compile generic c files?
[09:27] <Sa`-> 10x
[09:27] <juano__> Nalleman: you can download the rpm and use alien to convert to .deb
[09:27] <rebz> i installed gcc already
[09:27] <AlexC_> or gksudo
[09:27] <deafboy> HymnToLife: I'm not even close to maxed out with ram
[09:27] <Sa`-> thanks you very much
[09:27] <Zanarkand> I don't even know what to do..... :/
[09:27] <Sa`-> what cliend should i get for mirc in ubuntu?
[09:27] <AWOSDev7360> I've always wondered...why is help.ubuntu.com secure????
[09:28] <LjL> Asl[a] n, i really believe you can do that by using NetBIOS alone... still anyway, a DNS server will work too. but i don't know about one geared towards that kind of thing (although i believe almost all of them will somehow *allow* it)
[09:28] <HymnToLife> rebz, build-essential
[09:28] <function1> anyone else getting 403 errors on some libc updates?
[09:28] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- try Gaim or maybe Konversation for KDE
[09:28] <AlexC_> Sa` you mean IRC. mIRC is a Windows IRC Client
[09:28] <Sa`-> yeah
[09:28] <AlexC_> Sa`-: xchat is what most use
[09:28] <HymnToLife> Sa`-, xchat (GUI) or irssi (command line)
[09:28] <Sa`-> i meant a client
[09:28] <juano__> Nalleman: try sudo apt-get install alien , then download the rpm file, then do sudo alien -d myrpmfile.rpm , then just install the deb file
[09:28] <Sa`-> and a C compiler?
[09:28] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- gcc
[09:28] <MrElendig> AWOSDev7360: so that noone shal hax it and tell you to do a sudo rm -rf /
[09:28] <AlexC_> AWOSDev7360: beat me to it :P
[09:28] <rm_you> How large (disk space) would a complete mirror of Ubuntu be? I'm talking about a mirror like would be put on the canonical mirrors page... Also, is there a process for applying to be an official mirror?
[09:28] <mwe> Sa`-: build essential. includels gcc
[09:28] <deafboy> what is the syntax to use nice with wine?
[09:28] <LjL> !maradns | Asl[a] n, look at the apt-cache show description for this one, sounds interesting
[09:28] <Sa`-> sudu apt-get install gcc?
[09:28] <ubotu> maradns: Simple security-aware Domain Name Service server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.10-1 (edgy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1108 kB
[09:28] <buffi> hey wolf walker thanks ill try
[09:28] <AlexC_> deafboy: "wine path/to/file.exe"
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" on a terminal
[09:29] <AlexC_> How can I link the contents of /home/alex/web to /var/www
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> MrElendig what?
[09:29] <Sa`-> thanks
[09:29] <Asl[a] n> LjL, yeah, let me try that
[09:29] <deafboy> AlexC_: does nice go after that?
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> ohhhh
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> MrElendig oh I get it now :P
[09:29] <mwe> deafboy: using nice probably wont give you much of a gain
[09:29] <HymnToLife> AlexC_, does /var/www already exist ?
[09:29] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: yep
[09:29] <AlexC_> deafboy: I have no idea what Nice is
[09:29] <HymnToLife> then delete it first
[09:30] <mwe> deafboy: nice -n X wine blah
[09:30] <Zanarkand> I guess I'll just have to format and go back to my pirated version of windows- HARG!~
[09:30] <HymnToLife> then sudo ln -s /home/alex/web /var/www
[09:30] <bronze_0_1> AlexC_:  scheduling command
[09:30] <archonel> hi what is the correct packet name for php-curl to get it with apt ?
[09:30] <mwe> deafboy: I doubt it will help, though
[09:30] <bronze_0_1>  changes priority job runs at
[09:30] <Toth> any reccomendations on a firewall package? I have been using ubuntu for a while, and i know some things about networking, but I'm not exactly an expert, and I've never configured a firewall from scratch before
[09:30] <HymnToLife> !firewall | Toth
[09:30] <ubotu> Toth: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:30] <mwe> Toth: firestarter
[09:30] <ublender> let me just say, with sincerity: WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
[09:31] <archonel> any hints ?
[09:31] <mwe> Toth: firestarter is a nice front end to iptables, one of the most secure firewalls around
[09:31] <ublender> sorry for the spam there, but after over 3 weeks trying to get a compy to work, I believe I deserve to day that...
[09:31] <mwe> Toth: you don't need it unless you run a listening service, though
[09:31] <ublender> say*
[09:31] <aoupi> ublender: of course :)
[09:31] <Sa`-> and where can i get amsn client that support microfone and other features
[09:31] <Sa`-> '
[09:32] <capi_> anyone know how to remove logos from avi dvds? What program?
[09:32] <mwe> Toth: and in many cases if you run a listening service you don't want to filter it
[09:32] <AlexC_> Sa`-: you can use Synaptic, or in terminal type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[09:32] <Sa`-> thanks
[09:32] <Sa`-> and how i reinstall things?
[09:32] <ublender> aoupi: and god, all this time I thought it was Ubuntu's fault, and I've been coming here for help, to no avail. (segfaults on every app)
[09:32] <Sa`-> unistall
[09:32] <AlexC_> Sa`-:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[09:32] <Toth> mwe: ok thanks
[09:32] <AlexC_> sa` sudo apt-get remove pacakge
[09:32] <MrElendig> Sa`-: man apt-get
[09:33] <Zanarkand> capi_ that's pretty much imporrible
[09:33] <Sa`-> and when iam using the add/remove tool its the same?
[09:33] <capi_> Sa`-, dpkg-reconfigure <pakage> normally works or
[09:33] <Zanarkand> unless it's in an area of that dvd that doesn't cover the picture
[09:33] <Zanarkand> impossible*
[09:33] <AWOSDev7360> Okay I read the RootSudo thing on the Wiki.  So I make a root password.  and the want to make it back the way it was...I just do "sudo passwd -l root"?  and then it's back to the default Ubuntu freaky root thingy?
[09:33] <Sa`-> and when iam using the add/remove tool its the same?
[09:34] <aoupi> ublender: I got that too once, totaly my fault (tried to compile my own version of glibc :( )
[09:34] <AlexC_> Sa`-: nah, the GUI programs like Synaptic should do all that for you
[09:34] <capi_> Zanarkand, there is a DeLogo program for windows, that apparently blends away the logo. I realize you can't just turn it off.
[09:34] <MrElendig> Sa`-: synaptics is just a frontend for apt-get
[09:34] <LjL> AWOSDev7360, guess so, but i suggest you just leave it the way it is by default. if you need to *stay* root for a while, you can simply use "sudo -i", that's as easy as it gets
[09:34] <Sa`-> thank you guys
[09:34] <Sa`-> sorry for my noobish questions
[09:34] <mwe> Sa`-: in most cases you don't reinstall things. you fix them instead
[09:34] <blue-frog> AWOSDev7360: sudp passwd -d will make it the way it was
[09:34] <AlexC_> Sa`-: it's just easier for us to say "sudo apt-get install program" than say "Go to System->admin->Synaptic then click Serach then type in program then type goto Apply"
[09:35] <AWOSDev7360> blue-frog okay...so I think you need to change the wiki
[09:35] <redspotted> nas
[09:35] <MrElendig> Sa`-: if you need some info about a command do man <command> and info <command>
[09:35] <blue-frog> AWOSDev7360: passwd -l disable it -d delete the pwd.. man passwd
[09:35] <Sa`-> oki
[09:35] <Sa`-> very thanks
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog, (and AWOSDev7360): NO, not at all
[09:35] <ublender> aoupi: simply reducing my FSB on my proc fro 200 to 133 finally fixed it
[09:35] <AWOSDev7360> LjL that's what I thought... :P
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog: "-d" will give the account *NO PASSWORD*, meaning everybody will be able to enter
[09:35] <ublender> aoupi: now I wonder how much that might hinder my performance
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog: please don't suggest that
[09:36] <AWOSDev7360> LjL oh geez...oh Lord have mercy on my computer's soul!
[09:36] <aoupi> ublender: well, since you got segfaults before I'd guess you have infinitly better performance now :)
[09:36] <blue-frog> LjL: please learn...
[09:36] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: what's described in the howto is correct
[09:36] <LjL> blue-frog: what?
[09:36] <ublender> aoupi: lol good point, at least I can play games now!
[09:36] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: at any rate, just using sudo really works fine if you can take my word for it
[09:36] <Cyrus25801> cane a person (or animal) run any windows app on linux
[09:36] <mwe> passwd -d will not disable the password.
[09:36] <guilherme_jorge> hello all, I've updated my ubuntu to edgy, but now I doesnt get access to http://www.gmail.com. When I try to access this site I get the following error:  Unexpected response from server  \n  Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server.   \n    Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[09:37] <guilherme_jorge>     installed.    \n   This might be due to a non-standard configuration on the server.   Any idea?
[09:37] <blue-frog> mwe: correct it deletes it
[09:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Cyrus25801 about wine | Cyrus25801, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:37] <aoupi> Cyrus25801: It has been proven very dificult for cats to use ubuntu
[09:37] <AWOSDev7360> Cyrus25801 with WINE most Windows apps run
[09:37] <rellik> I thought the question is how to get back to the default sudo-only access if you already gave root a passwd
[09:37] <Cyrus25801> thanx guys
[09:37] <mwe> blue-frog: stupid idea
[09:37] <AWOSDev7360> aoupi, naw not really...it's just the paws make it hard to type...and the cats eat the mouse :P
[09:38] <b14ck> hi
[09:38] <blue-frog> mwe: ubnutu dev are going to be happy as it is the way by default...
[09:38] <b14ck> um.. im having huge problems with ubuntu
[09:38] <ublender> !wine | Cyrus25801
[09:38] <AlexC_> my cat sits on my keyboard, so if he sits in such a way to type "wine file.exe" then yeah he could open it up :P
[09:38] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:38] <AWOSDev7360> AlexC_ haha
[09:38] <Cyrus25801> aoupi: I have seen that dogs and apes alike come right better with ubuntu than some of their human counter parts
[09:38] <mwe> blue-frog: did you know it will disable login for the user?
[09:38] <Cyrus25801> thanx guys
[09:38] <b14ck> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (dual boot with windows), and everything works fine after the install. but then, once i get to the first real boot up (after i've updated all the packages), the computer no longer boots... ubuntu hangs
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> Wowowowow.  didn't even notice LjL was a +o
[09:39] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: but isn't Ubuntu Linux for Humans? We'll ne an Anubuntu - Linux for Animals
[09:39] <aoupi> Cyrus25801: ah yes, the dog support was greatly improved in edgy
[09:39] <mwe> LjL: thanks. he was annoying
[09:39] <mick666> hello everybodies
[09:39] <AlexC_> morning,
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> aoupi really?  shoot...I need to upgrade then :P
[09:39] <mwe> AlexC_: evening
[09:39] <LjL> mwe: he surely needs to talk a little
[09:39] <mwe> heh
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> maybe I can get my Dalmatian to type 25cwpm!
[09:39] <Cyrus25801> I'm glad you guys have such a great sence of humour
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> anyways...
[09:40] <b14ck> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (dual boot with windows), and everything works fine after the install. but then, once i get to the first real boot up (after i've updated all the packages), the computer no longer boots... ubuntu hangs . anyone know how to fix this?
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> I know I shouldn't set a root password, but Samba requires it.
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> oh yeah Cyrus25801, we're a hoot
[09:40] <cbx33> hey guys need to do a nice diagram to show how LTSP works, what package shoudl I use?
[09:40] <AlexC_> cbx33: Paint in Wine of course!! hehe ... j/k
[09:40] <mwe> b14ck: you probably need to me more specific
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> cbx33 if you have Visio I believe WINE can run it
[09:40] <violot> soccer5555_,  hello
[09:40] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, no i dont
[09:40] <cbx33> but that's the kinda diagram I need
[09:41] <violot> soccer5555_, ask your question
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> cbx33 well I do...should I draw it for you?
[09:41] <cbx33> we don;t have a nice opensource alternative?
[09:41] <b14ck> mwe, 1 minute i'll paste the exact bootup error
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> not that I know how LTSP works
[09:41] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, really?
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> :P
[09:41] <cbx33> you'd do that?
[09:41] <cbx33> if I send you a sketch
[09:41] <AlexC_> AWOSDev7360: this connects to that, and that connects to this ... turn it on and BOOM!
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> really, I would, if I can find my Visio CD
[09:41] <erabbit> what is xwindow's configuration utility for brightness and contrast?  my monitor is maxed and not yet correct, and the fireglcontrol (ati driver config) doesnt handle brightness/contrast.
[09:41] <mwe> b14ck: not in the channel
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> AlecX_ hehe
[09:41] <soccer5555_> im having a problem setting up the wireless network with my ubuntu edgy
[09:41] <mwe> !paste | b14ck
[09:41] <ubotu> b14ck: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> AlexC_ hehe
[09:41] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, if you can find it and let me know that'd be awesome
[09:42] <AWOSDev7360> hmm...I'm trying to remember the system requirements...
[09:42] <b14ck> EXACT BOOTUP ERROR: "* Mounting local filesystems... * Configuring network interfaces... [time]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[09:42] <cbx33> heheh
[09:42] <cbx33> i wonder is there a trai lpacakge I could use in a vm
[09:42] <AWOSDev7360> b14ck wow...soft lockup...as an OS developer, that scares me
[09:42] <cbx33> i have an XP vm
[09:42] <b14ck> What the hell is a 'soft lockup'?
[09:42] <mwe> b14ck: sounds bad
[09:42] <b14ck> This is the 2nd time I've installed ubuntu and this has happened.
[09:43] <b14ck> 2nd time in a row
[09:43] <f> hi
[09:43] <b14ck> The first time I thought it was me...
[09:43] <f> i have some problem with radius
[09:43] <f> it autenticat users only locally
[09:43] <AlexC_> b14ck: the first time you thought it was you that soft locked up?
[09:43] <b14ck> The first time I thought I may have done something wrong.
[09:43] <b14ck> Maybe I powered it down too early
[09:43] <AlexC_> ah, my mistake =)
[09:43] <b14ck> But nope..
[09:44] <b14ck> Can someone tell me what softlockup means? Does this mean it's time to install another distro?
[09:44] <jareth_> bl4ck : http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/kernel-lockup.htm
[09:44] <AWOSDev7360> b14ck soft lockup...doesn't that mean the CPU executed HLT while STIed?
[09:45] <b14ck> AWOSDev7360, I have no idea.....
[09:45] <b14ck> AWOSDev7360 i"m using an intel duo core 2.16GHz
[09:45] <Jowi> b14ck, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/64125
[09:45] <b14ck> if that makes a difference
[09:45] <Asl[a] n> LjL, btw, i think that dnsmasq thingamajig could work- wonder how it'd cope with a local mail server for the intranet
[09:45] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: i have just purchaced a canon ip5200 but there aren't linux driver for it. any advise
[09:46] <pestilence> is ubuntu's nfs client (in edgy) patched to try and use unprivileged ports?
[09:46] <pbureau> bl4ck, goto cmos and turn dual core off
[09:46] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: hello - why not ask the question to others aswell?
[09:46] <pestilence> i'm getting mount refused by a debian stable server, and the reason it gives is "illegal port"
[09:46] <lupine_85> Cyrus25801: www.turboprint.de
[09:46] <lupine_85> or take it back
[09:46] <Jowi> b14ck, also here http://bughost.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 seems to be the ipw3945 wireless driver
[09:46] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: what you could do is just pick a random canon driver untill one works, sometimes it will work
[09:46] <pbureau> bl4ck, goto cmos and turn dual core off
[09:46] <b14ck> hey Jowi... that link you gave me said that I shoould execute some commands, but I don't know how to do that since I can't boot up
[09:47] <b14ck> turn dual core off??? wont that reduce the processing power significantly...
[09:47] <NthDegree> O_O
[09:47] <Cyrus25801> lupine_85: i have that but to use full capabilities you need to pay. and i dont ever pay for software
[09:47] <Jowi> b14ck, better to disable that module if you're not using that wireless card
[09:47] <AlexC_> turn dual core off???
[09:47] <Cyrus25801> lupine_85: but thanx anyways
[09:47] <b14ck> Jowi, how do I disable it though..
[09:47] <NthDegree> pbureau, are you 100% insane?
[09:48] <AlexC_> I didn't even think it was possible to turn dual core off?
[09:48] <Cyrus25801> would a person be able to use wil and install drivers for the software that you are running on wine
[09:48] <gecko_> hey can sum1 explain to me updating from Edgy to Fiesty? i tried changing the sources.list and it said it wanted me to upgrade to 6.10..but thats what i have?
[09:48] <b14ck> and also... jowi, i would like to use my wireless card (eventualy), would it still be possible?
[09:49] <Cyrus25801> would a person be able to use wine and install drivers for the software that you are running on wine
[09:49] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: pick a random canon drive, until one works - may not be best solution, but it works
[09:49] <Cyrus25801> by drivers i mean printer drivers
[09:50] <AWOSDev7360> ooh.  Fiesty Fawn.  dang I need to get my laptop backed up and use it
[09:50] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: do you know how long it is going to take to go through the entire list
[09:50] <Jowi> b14ck, boot into the live cd. open a terminal. type "sudo -i". mount your ubuntu root partition. "nano /directory/whereyoumounted/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and add a line that says "blacklist ipw3945"
[09:50] <AWOSDev7360> I wanna get the uber-cool uber-beta developer's beta edition!  :P
[09:50] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: ther surly must be a better way
[09:50] <LjL> Asl[a] n: dunno, i know that dnsmasq also comes with a dhcp server as a bonus. however it's really more geared towards serving DNS records taken from *Internet* nameservers, so that things are cached and get faster, more than for making your own DNS records
[09:50] <gecko_> AWOSDev: its still in devel. its not a final release
[09:50] <b14ck> jowi, wkll i still be able to use my wireless card though?
[09:50] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: that's because your expecting the last one to work - if you think that, then why not start from the bottom? Then it would only take a very short while
[09:50] <Jowi> b14ck, not if you blacklist it, no
[09:51] <niktaris> Hi, does anyone know why I can't browse an smb network from gnome ?
[09:51] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: heh
[09:51] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: very clever.maybe i'll start in the middle
[09:51] <b14ck> jowi... i'm on a laptop and i want to use my wireless card though.
[09:51] <niktaris> Is there a bug in gnome-vfs or something ?
[09:51] <AlexC_> niktaris: yes, of course there is
[09:51] <AlexC_> nothing is bug free
[09:52] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: when you have it installed, get the next version, Crafty Creep.
[09:52] <Jowi> b14ck, no idea how to solve that dilemma unfortunatley. I do not have this hardware and its the first time I've seen the bug. just pointing you in a possible direction :)
[09:52] <niktaris> AlexC_, there is ?
[09:53] <AlexC_> niktaris: if nothing is bug free, then gnome-vfs has bugs.....
[09:53] <niktaris> AlexC_, haha yes
[09:53] <Badm4n> sorry this is maybe oot but maybe 1 of you can tell me where i can get free client management like clientexec ( but not phpcoins )
[09:53] <mwe> how do they come with those code names? I guess they're drunk when they do.
[09:53] <niktaris> AlexC_, but I was talking about browsing a windows network
[09:53] <AlexC_> niktaris: you never asked that :P
[09:53] <aoupi> has anyone used X11 forwarding over SSH on a 10Mbit connection? if soo was it usable or too slow?
[09:54] <niktaris> AlexC_, I did
[09:54] <niktaris> Hi, does anyone know why I can't browse an smb network from gnome ?
[09:54] <Tomcat_> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28name%29
[09:54] <mwe> aoupi: I have. it was usuable but not impressing
[09:54] <AlexC_> niktaris: "Is there a bug in gnome-vfs or something" you asked is there a bug in it :P
[09:54] <aoupi> mwe: darn...
[09:54] <rellik> I got twinview working, except that programs maximize across both screens..  any idea how to fix that?  from my searching, it seems to have something to do with xinerama..  but I can't seem to get the options right..
[09:54] <AlexC_> niktaris: sorry, I never saw the other line above lol
[09:55] <niktaris> AlexC_, ok
[09:55] <mwe> Tomcat_: it still looks stoned to me
[09:55] <mwe> Tomcat_: breezy badger, hoary hedgehog, dapper drake. stoned
[09:56] <aalhamad> hi i have problem with my bittorent .. itd my first time to use it and i dont see anything is downloaded..anybody can help?
[09:56] <AlexC_> mwe: Edgy Eft, Feisty Fawn
[09:56] <mwe> AlexC_: even more stoned ;)
[09:56] <AlexC_> mwe: I like the names, they sound cool
[09:56] <mwe> AlexC_: I see ;)
[09:57] <AlexC_> mwe: there all an animal prefixed with a special word I can't think off cos I didn't pay much attention in english class :P
[09:57] <Jowi> b14ck, according to this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 a fix has been released for kernel source 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 (not for 2.6.17 yet)
[09:57] <aoupi> aalhamad: have you opened a port for bittorrent?
[09:57] <deadhobo> Hello, I have a laptop and I can't seem to get it to recognize my modular harddrive...
[09:57] <mwe> AlexC_: the numbering. 5.10 etc. makes sense
[09:57] <aalhamad> how can i do that?
[09:57] <AlexC_> mwe: code names never do,
[09:57] <aalhamad> aoupi?
[09:57] <aoupi> aalhamad: do you have a router?
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: I know. I'm still convinced they get drun at a party to come up with the names ;)
[09:58] <aalhamad> ok.. its just started..
[09:58] <nn> I get weird error mounting my /home: root@dungeon:/ # mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/  gives mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt/ busy
[09:58] <nn> Neither true
[09:58] <AlexC_> mwe: probably!
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: drunk*
[09:58] <aalhamad> thaks i fixed it .. for now maybe..
[09:58] <aalhamad> thanks aoupi :)
[09:58] <aoupi> aalhamad: ok, dont forget to seed :)
[09:58] <jeffery_> how do I down-grade a package and its dependencies ?
[09:58] <deadhobo> I tried rebooting multiple times, and swapping the drive with a DVD burner, the burner reads, but the harddrive still dosn't exist as far as ubuntu is concerned
[09:58] <aalhamad> seed?
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: it's at least better than something like 'Vista' or 'Longhorn'
[09:58] <AlexC_> mwe: sure is!
[09:59] <lynucs> aalhamad, itmeans to share
[09:59] <aoupi> aalhamad: when your download has finnished you still share the file with other people who are trying to download it, soo keep your client running
[09:59] <mwe> AlexC_: and debian is using names from south park. geez
[09:59] <mwe> ;)
[10:00] <AlexC_> mwe:  really?
[10:00] <aoupi> mwe: debian has names?
[10:00] <lynucs> deadhobo, your haddisk isn't mounting?
[10:00] <Cyrus25801> mwe: anything is better that microcrap i mean soft
[10:00] <nn> My partitions wont mount :)
[10:00] <mwe> AlexC_: yeah. sid is the naughty boy
[10:00] <AlexC_> mwe: I've never seen a "stable" or "expiremental" in south park :P
[10:00] <nn> i get busy or in use
[10:00] <nn> which is NOT the case
[10:00] <deadhobo> lynucs, yeah, I can't find it in nautilus
[10:00] <aoupi> AlexC_: my thoughts exactly
[10:00] <mwe> AlexC_: that's why they use sid for the unstable
[10:00] <lynucs> deadhobo, is is an usb device?
[10:01] <AlexC_> mwe: you mean like Sarge?
[10:01] <deadhobo> lynucs, no, its a modular bay... some custom connecter that adapts to the standard laptop drive plug
[10:01] <kalosaurusrex> hey AlexC_ :)
[10:01] <mwe> AlexC_: nah. sid. sarge is stable I think
[10:01] <AlexC_> kalosaurusrex: hey hey!
[10:01] <mwe> AlexC_: sid is never going to be stable
[10:01] <lynucs> deadhobo, is it a hotplug device?
[10:01] <rellik> is there any big difference between xinerama and twinview, as far as performance and features go?
[10:01] <AlexC_> mwe: ahh :P
[10:01] <deadhobo> lynucs: I believe so, I've tried it cold to no luck either tho :/
[10:02] <erabbit> with XF86Config no longer an option and ATI not providing the option in their control panel - where can i modify xorg's brightness/contrast settings?  i see a bunch of posts to the ubuntu forums about this, but no answers. any help appreciated.
[10:02] <aalhamad> i have a file which is xiped to .chm .. how can i open it?
[10:02] <lynucs> deadhobo, does dmesg says anything if you connect the drive?
[10:02] <violot> Does edgy come with wconfig?
[10:02] <aalhamad> xiped=ziped
[10:02] <nn> is there a way to tell apt-get i NEVER want to allow -any- X crap installed?
[10:02] <mwe> erabbit: Personally I use the monitors settings
[10:03] <mwe> nn: I think not ;) what do you need to do?
[10:03] <deadhobo> lynucs, where do I see dmesg? I'm kinda a novice, sorry :/
[10:03] <erabbit> mwe: mine is maxed out to the lowest brightness setting on the monitor, but is still /very/ bright
[10:03] <mwe> erabbit: oh
[10:03] <nn> mwe: i want to prevent anything X related and lib64 stuff from being installed
[10:03] <aoupi> aalhamad: install gnochm
[10:03] <lynucs> deadhobo, type dmesg into console, then connect your drive and type dmesg again.. see the differences
[10:03] <mwe> nn: I don't think there is a setting for that
[10:03] <aalhamad> thanks
[10:03] <nn> i want nothing to do with X
[10:03] <aalhamad> and rar?
[10:04] <mwe> erabbit: I wish I knew how to do it
[10:04] <deadhobo> lynucs, Ok, one second, thanks
[10:04] <aoupi> aalhamad: I think you can just double click them
[10:04] <mwe> nn: look at what things want to install before you commit ?
[10:04] <fbis> hi guys
[10:04] <aalhamad> ok..
[10:04] <aalhamad> thanks
[10:04] <fbis> i've been a bad bat and broke something on ubuntu!
[10:04] <erabbit> mwe: k thanks
[10:05] <nn> mwe: yea, tho i prefer what bts had :)
[10:05] <deadhobo> lynucs, its pretty huge, I'm worried I'll miss something if anything changes... is there a specific section I should look for?
[10:05] <lynucs> at the bottom :D
[10:05] <deadhobo> lol k :)
[10:05] <lynucs> something like sda1 or hda1 there?
[10:05] <nn> disallow trove:X11,arch:ia64
[10:05] <mwe> erabbit: I've heard the question before but didn't see a good solutions
[10:05] <nn> err
[10:05] <fbis> At some point during installation I was asked what priority to run X under. It said default was 0, -10 being the best I meant to enter -2 but entered 2 by mistake and now X is slow
[10:05] <nn> disallow trove:X11 || arch:ia64
[10:05] <mwe> solution*
[10:05] <fbis> any idea how to set it back to 0?
[10:06] <nn> would be nice :)
[10:06] <deadhobo> lynucs,  Ok, I just unplugged it and the last message is psmouse.c issuing reconnect request
[10:06] <aoupi> hm.. my cd-drive isn't responding, is there anyway to tell if it is plugged in without opening up the case?
[10:06] <aoupi> I have no /dev/hdc
[10:06] <lynucs> hmm anything above containg hada or sda?
[10:06] <deadhobo> lynucs, I plugged it back in and nothing changed in dmesg
[10:06] <lynucs> hda or sda
[10:06] <MrElendig> aoupi: restart  and chack in hte bios
[10:06] <fbis> does it show up in the bios aoupi?
[10:06] <aoupi> fbis: no :)
[10:06] <jobo> bha, I still cannot get my internet connection up when using public static ip. A ifup takes 20-30 seconds. I don't get any messages about that it fails but it doesn't work. I'm 100% sure my ip, gw and netmask settings are correct. If I comment out gateway in /etc/network/interfaces ifup completes as fast as it's expected to.
[10:07] <lynucs> deadhobo, did you type dmesg again after connecting?
[10:07] <aoupi> but the bios doesn't find anything
[10:07] <deadhobo> lynucs, yes :P
[10:07] <Geoffrey2> I have three updates that won't download, libc6, libc6-dev. amd libc6-i686....all three produce 403 Forbidden errors...is that a goof on my end, or is something borked in the repository?
[10:07] <aoupi> fbis: it doesn't find my keyboard nor 2 of my HD's
[10:07] <fbis> then its dead or not plugged in and your gonna have to take the case off ;)
[10:07] <lynucs> deadhobo, that is bad
[10:07] <fbis> sounds sick aoupi
[10:07] <aoupi> fbis: can I boot a .iso cd without burning it? :)
[10:07] <jobo> I checked the dmesg ge nad found "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[10:07] <deadhobo> ught oh
[10:07] <pike_> "xgamma -rgamma 4" <-- will make monitor output a little prettier
[10:07] <fbis> err no!
[10:08] <lynucs> deadhobo, it means the system can't notice any device
[10:08] <nn> wtf
[10:08] <aoupi> fbis: I mean, tell grub to load the .iso file in some way
[10:08] <deadhobo> lynucs, :/ I know the drive worked a few months ago w/ windows...
[10:08] <jobo> and also something about no IPv6 routers present
[10:08] <Rizon> hello
[10:08] <fbis> Does your cd drive work in windows?
[10:08] <aoupi> fbis: hahahhahahahaha
[10:08] <deadhobo> lynucs, I'll try switching it to the cddrive and running dmesg again
[10:08] <lynucs> deadhobo, wait
[10:09] <aoupi> fbis: havn't ran windows in my whole life
[10:09] <Atomix> i need help
[10:09] <MrElendig> aoupi: you can dd the iso to a partion, then add that partion to grub
[10:09] <fbis> sounds like you need a hardware tech
[10:09] <lynucs> deadhobo, you connect the cddrive to the same slot and it works?
[10:09] <deadhobo> lynucs, ok, what do you reccomend?
[10:09] <deadhobo> whoops
[10:09] <jobo> so, what could be the reason for ifup to take 20seconds to complete?
[10:09] <aoupi> MrElendig: that sounds fun, I'll use my swap partition, that isn't in use anyway
[10:09] <deadhobo> yeah, thats what I was going to try right now
[10:09] <Atomix> I am through with ubuntu,  just got my windows cd, but i dunno how to run it
[10:09] <deadhobo> lynucs, it worked last reboot with the cd drive
[10:09] <fbis> At some point during installation I was asked what priority to run X under. It said default was 0, -10 being the best I meant to enter -2 but entered 2 by mistake and now X is slow
[10:10] <lynucs> deadhobo, that myterious :D
[10:10] <fbis> anyone know what this setting is called?
[10:10] <MrElendig> better do a swapoff first...
[10:10] <LjL> fbis: no, but i'll try to find it, hold on
[10:10] <mwe> fbis: using 2 as priority probably isn't the problem
[10:10] <aoupi> MrElendig: :)
[10:10] <lynucs> deadhobo, i mean if the slot is recognized propoerly and cddrive works, then dmesg should bring anything
[10:11] <fbis> was fine under 0 mwe :)
[10:11] <M3G4crux> hi
[10:11] <mwe> fbis: oh. I'll shut up then ;)
[10:11] <Byan> what's the best pdf viewer?
[10:11] <pollywog> acroread
[10:11] <pollywog> imo
[10:11] <deadhobo> lynucs, yeah :/
[10:11] <fbis> i kept getting a device error so I ran dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg -all and wished I hadn't :)
[10:12] <fbis> being a nweb and all
[10:12] <lynucs> deadhobo, or the slot isnt ment to be a hotplug slot? :)
[10:12] <Atomix> so i keep getting an error when i try to install windows,  anyone have any help?
[10:12] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, is there a way to make Ubuntu work with Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing?
[10:12] <MrElendig> acroread is a bloted slow pos
[10:12] <Atomix> ubuntu's installation processes are confusing
[10:12] <pollywog> MrElendig: oh?  is there something better?
[10:12] <deadhob1> lynucs: on my desktop now, looks like the laptop locked up
[10:13] <mwe> fbis: I'm wondering why changing priority from 0 to 2 would have a huge impact, though.
[10:13] <jobo> also,  using a local address and letting my dlink router be the gateway works perfectly well
[10:13] <MrElendig> pollywog: even xpdf is better
[10:13] <lynucs> deadhob, what do you mean with locked up?
[10:13] <deadhob1> lynucs: I was running software updates, console and IRC while I switched drives, thats problably a problem :P
[10:13] <pollywog> I did not like xpdf
[10:13] <LjL> fbis: it used to be xserver-common, but not anymore apparently...
[10:13] <deadhob1> lynucs: like the mouse wont move or anything and the harddrive light is on solid
[10:13] <pollywog> It would not work reliably
[10:13] <lynucs> deadhob, maybe the problem is, the slot isn't ment to be a hotplug slot :D
[10:14] <Gosha> !sound
[10:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:14] <deadhob1> lynucs: lol, I would agree, but I have done coldboots with the drive in it to no avail :/
[10:14] <lynucs> deadhob, i mean for the locking up
[10:14] <deadhob1> lynucs: oh yeah, probably
[10:15] <violot> How do you configure dsl modems in LInux?
[10:15] <deadhob1> I'm not terribly concerned about the lockup
[10:15] <deadhob1> kinda deserved it
[10:15] <deadhob1> anyway
[10:15] <deadhob1> doing a coldboot with the harddrive in it now
[10:15] <Marupa> I'm looking for some sort of solution to a DJing problem.  Looking for some sort of method to show what has been playing, what is playing, what can be requested, and some sort of method to have users listen...Best way? (Apache?  some other form?)
[10:15] <lynucs> deadhob1, i'm sorry but i don't know how to solve the prob..
[10:15] <linuxero_> Enverex please
[10:16] <linuxero_> i want help you
[10:16] <lynucs> deadhob1, but if you solve it, could you drop me a mail?
[10:16] <Geoffrey2> ok, I lost the network for a little bit there, did anyone have an answer to my question about the software updates?
[10:16] <deadhob1> lynucs: oh well, thanks for your time. I'll run dmesg again when it boots up and see what ahppens
[10:16] <deadhob1> lynucs: sure, pm?
[10:16] <lynucs> true-black@web.de
[10:16] <Atomix> Is it possible to install windows on a computer running ubuntu?
[10:16] <Atomix> Because i cannot do it
[10:16] <|Jason8|> Atomix, yeah
[10:16] <linuxero_> enverex!
[10:17] <deadhob1> ok lynucs, will do
[10:17] <|Jason8|> make a new partition
[10:17] <lynucs> deadhob1, thank you would be great
[10:17] <Atomix> im confused though, can anyone help?
[10:17] <|Jason8|> and run the Windows XP setup
[10:17] <x1nux> hi
[10:17] <pollywog> niktaris: using LinNeighborhood?
[10:17] <Atomix> i get an error
[10:17] <deadhob1> lynucs: no problem, thanks for trying :)
[10:17] <x1nux> i have a problem with this
[10:17] <Atomix> and what is a partition
[10:17] <lynucs> Atomix, you can, but windows will overwrite your mbr.. that means you will have to install grub again
[10:17] <x1nux> i have a problem with this
[10:17] <pike_> Atomix: for gaming or just regular desktop use?
[10:17] <x1nux> http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[10:18] <Atomix> i want windows as my operating system
[10:18] <Atomix> i just cannot get it to install
[10:18] <niktaris> pollywog, yes that works but it;s just to damn ugly
[10:18] <enyc> Atomix: well dont ask us ;-)
[10:18] <pike_> Atomix: if its just for regular app (not 3d) id install vmware server and just run xp virtually
[10:18] <lynucs> Atomix, do you want to delete linux completely?
[10:18] <|Jason8|> Atomix, do you want to keep ubuntu?
[10:18] <Atomix> pretty much
[10:18] <pollywog> niktaris: oic I like smb4k but it's for KDE
[10:18] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:19] <lynucs> Atomix, did you create an extra partition for win?
[10:19] <Atomix> too confusing for me
[10:19] <Atomix> partition?
[10:19] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, well then, blow away the partition, format, and install Windows
[10:19] <x1nux> heyyy
[10:19] <x1nux> http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[10:19] <x1nux> i can't download this file ... :'(
[10:19] <Atomix> you see, i am confused as to how to do that
[10:19] <Atomix> because i have always used windows
[10:19] <LjL> anybody interested in fbis's question, the correct way to change X's niceness in Edgy is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common"
[10:19] <lynucs> Atomix, so you want to keep ubuntu and install windows, right?
[10:19] <x1nux> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb on this server.
[10:20] <n2diy> I setup gpg, and just received my first encrypted email, can I decrypt it in Thunderbird?
[10:20] <Atomix> right lynucs
[10:20] <pbureau> atomix if you want linux gone, fdisk c drive delete all partitions and pop that cd in drive boot from cd and install windows on fresh HDD
[10:20] <Atomix> wait no
[10:20] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:20] <pollywog> Atomics are you serious or playing with us?
[10:20] <Atomix> windows without ubuntu
[10:20] <lynucs> Atomix, ok then you have to create "place" on your hard disk for win
[10:20] <Jowi> Atomix, the windows installation is the same if you have linux installed or not. /j ##windows if you need help with that
[10:20] <tamacracka> can someone please help me re-mount my NTFS hard drive? My machine froze when I was transfering files from the NTFS to my EXT3 and now I get this error: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:20] <lynucs> Atomix, in other words youll have to create a partition
[10:21] <Atomix> so how do i do that
[10:21] <|Jason8|> Atomix, than just format the hard drive
[10:21] <erUSUL> LjL: i was under the impresion that with recent ( "recent being 2.6.x" ) it is no longer needed/wise to renice X
[10:21] <pollywog> I thought it was easy to install XP over Linux
[10:21] <pollywog> taking over the disk
[10:21] <lynucs> Atomix, at fiirst you would need top backup your files
[10:21] <Atomix> im confused, one is telling me to make a partition, one is telling me to format the harddrive...
[10:21] <lynucs> Atomix, becuse resizing partitions is allways risky
[10:22] <Atomix> they are backed up
[10:22] <LjL> erUSUL: maybe, but he had already done it (and set it to 2, which as he noticed is a bad idea) and wanted to revert, but we didn't know which package was concerned, and google turned up xserver-common, which isn't available in edgy
[10:22] <NeoGeo64> How fast will Ubuntu run on my system... my specs are as follows... intel core 2 extreme 2.66ghz quad core... western digital 500gb, 4gb ram, geforce 8800 w/ 768mb ram and xfi sound card??
[10:22] <pike_> Atomix: if you dont want ubuntu just run the xp installer and delete all partitions and have xp create new.
[10:22] <lynucs> Atomix, then google dor qtparted
[10:22] <erUSUL> LjL: fair enough ;)
[10:22] <shadowhywind> hi al, I am fed up with this, and hoping someone can help me. The last month or so when ever i boot up my ip # are allways off. i have them static but when i boot they come up as a 169.254 number..
[10:22] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, I think several people here think you want to dual boot, where what you want is to completely erase the hard drive and go back to a pure Windows setup
[10:22] <lynucs> Atomix, thats a tool for resizing partition
[10:22] <swx> Quelqun peu m'aider a rsoudre un problme avec gnome-art?
[10:23] <swx> oh sorry
[10:23] <erUSUL> !fr > swx
[10:23] <lynucs> !qtparted
[10:23] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[10:23] <pike_> Atomix: i think you should give ubuntu a shot though im not sure how much harder it is to run than xp.  just a little new and different to you
[10:23] <|Jason8|> Atomix wants to get rid of ubuntu, correct?
[10:23] <Atomix> yes
[10:23] <NeoGeo64> How fast will Ubuntu run on my system... my specs are as follows... intel core 2 extre01/24/2007 15:40:00  	IN TRANSIT TO[I]   	JACKSONVILLE, FL, US  	
[10:23] <NeoGeo64> 01/24/2007 15:39:00 	DEPARTURE SCAN[I]  	WEST COLUMBIA, SC, US 	me 2.66ghz quad core... western digital 500gb, 4gb ram, geforce 8800 w/ 768mb ram and xfi sound card??
[10:23] <pollywog> shadowhywind: I had the same problem with my kubuntu laptop last week and the problem was the router
[10:23] <OrangeOrange> how can i end task on a program like firefox
[10:23] <lynucs> |Jason8|, NO
[10:23] <OrangeOrange> cuz its frozen
[10:24] <pike_> OrangeOrange: pkill firefox is one way
[10:24] <lynucs> Atomix, you told you want keep ubuntu?
[10:24] <shadowhywind> pollywog i have this problem on 2 seperate routers
[10:24] <Atomix> no i said
[10:24] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:24] <lynucs> rofl
[10:24] <Jowi> Atomix, alternative 1) boot the windows install cd. the installer will let you create or delete partitions. install windows. done. alternative 2) boot ubuntu live cd. run gparted. delete linux partitions. reboot with windows install cd. goto step 1.
[10:24] <pollywog> shadowhywind: are you using DD-WRT?
[10:24] <NthDegree> ?
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, do you have a WIndows XP installation CD?
[10:24] <pike_> OrangeOrange: xkill is also handy will give you a cursor to just click on what to kill
[10:24] <lynucs> Atomix, then just start your windows cd, and choose delete partitions
[10:24] <pbureau> Atomix , look if you want ubuntu gone and winxp on it again.. simple.. reboot machine from winxp cdrom
[10:24] <Atomix> yes
[10:24] <shadowhywind> pollywog DD-WRT??
[10:25] <OrangeOrange> pike_: thanks
[10:25] <pollywog> shadowhywind: I have a Linksys router but I run the DD-WRT firmware on it
[10:25] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, then you SHOULD be able to just boot from the CD, tell it to install....and have it delete and create a brand new partition to install XP in
[10:26] <pollywog> shadowhywind: so I don't think my fix would apply to you
[10:26] <shadowhywind> oh the router that i am useing are 2 belkin routers, each of different version and firmwares
[10:26] <Atomix> what do you mean boot from the cd?
[10:26] <pike_> Atomix: but youre going to see the ugly side of xp too if youve never used the installer
[10:26] <n2diy> I setup gpg, and just received my first encrypted email, can I decrypt it in Thunderbird?
[10:26] <OrangeOrange> for ubuntu dapper.. i want to replace emerald .. since its freaking up my comp wen i load beryl.. the alternative is helidor right? but how do i dl it?
[10:27] <pollywog> shadowhywind: on my router the problem started when I set my ralink card to a static IP address using the MAC address
[10:27] <pbureau> Atomix, shut the pc down slap the cd iinto the drive and boot the machine.... FFS
[10:27] <erUSUL> n2diy: you need enigmail afaik
[10:27] <lynucs> Atomix, put your wincd into your drive and reboot pc
[10:27] <Jowi> Atomix, boot = start the system
[10:27] <Atomix> i know that
[10:27] <shadowhywind> ooc see the static ips that i set are in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:27] <MrElendig> Atomix: #windows
[10:27] <n2diy> erUSUL: ok, I'll check it out.
[10:27] <Atomix> but it never does anything, just goes to the linux start screen
[10:27] <pollywog> I fixed it by disabling dhcpd in the main menu and enabling it in the wifi menus
[10:27] <Atomix> i tried that
[10:27] <Atomix> they're more clueless than me
[10:27] <lynucs> Atomix, and make sure in bios, thta your machine tries to start from cd-rom first
[10:28] <pbureau> Atomix, boot into your cmos and change the boot sequence to start fro CD first
[10:28] <Atomix> ok, thanks i can do that
[10:28] <Geoffrey2> of course, that's assuming he has a bootable Windows CD
[10:28] <Atomix> if it works ill come back
[10:28] <Atomix> if not
[10:28] <Atomix> who knows
[10:28] <pbureau> Geoffrey2,  he said he did
[10:28] <Jowi> Atomix, good luck :)
[10:29] <pbureau> bye bye atomix, now back to real issues. lol
[10:29] <pollywog> Micrsoft will have to come up with a Linux removal tool
[10:29] <pbureau> pollywog,  they have called fdisk
[10:29] <pollywog> yes but an easy interface
[10:30] <pbureau> pollywog,  easy?.. question is : do you want to use the whole disk to install windows... does get easier than yes or no
[10:30] <EnsignRedshirt> If you are using 6.06, and if you have the package mesa-common-dev installed, could you do me a favor and see if the file gl.h is in /usr/include/GL ?
[10:30] <pollywog> pbureau: yes I know, I thought the person with the problem might be playing with us
[10:31] <pollywog> but probably not
[10:31] <pbureau> pollywog,  probably young guy not very tech savy...
[10:31] <Geoffrey2> well, the single biggest problem was that Atomix really didn't even understand how to work in Windows.....
[10:31] <pbureau> thus the reason hes going back to winblows.
[10:31] <pollywog> or old like me  :)
[10:31] <Arrick> Atom-, are you in here saying you got no help from the windows channel for isntalling windows XP?
[10:31] <pbureau> Arrick,  I think atomix is gone now
[10:31] <EnsignRedshirt> ...or if someone using 6.06 is *really* friendly, could you install mesa-common-dev and see if the file gl.h ends up in /usr/include/GL ?
[10:32] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[10:32] <Arrick> yeah, the user Atom- has that name though is why I asked
[10:32] <amortvigil> help my flash-plugin wont install ,how can i fix this, see pastebin for details http://pastebin.com/866536.
[10:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Wait... I guess I can just check the file list in Synaptic...
[10:32] <pbureau> anti_system32,  visita #ubuntu-sp ?
[10:32] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, what's the easiest way to get Windows XP ICS to work with Ubuntu?  XP is the host, Ubuntu is the client.
[10:32] <anti_system32> no el ubuntu-es
[10:32] <anti_system32> creo
[10:32] <subzero2000> EnsignRedShirt, I use packages.ubuntu.com for file lists, also.
[10:33] <LjL> s es #ubuntu-es
[10:33] <pollywog> maybe atomix went to #ubuntu-sp
[10:33] <pollywog> maybe atomix went to #ubuntu-es
[10:33] <pbureau> anti_system32,  ah si.. y tambien creo ..sorry dude
[10:33] <LjL> |Jason8|: i don't really know about ICS, but wouldn't it all boil down to knowing the right IP, gateway and DNS to set? or perhaps it even offers DHCP
[10:33] <MrElendig> 22:33 <    Arrick> MrElendig, dont always listen to what you hear? atomix hasnt been in this channel in the last 24-48 hours
[10:33] <pbureau> lolol
[10:33] <Arrick> yeah, im here MrElendig
[10:33] <Arrick> I was looking for him
[10:34] <_`XeOn_> hi
[10:34] <subzero2000> LjL, that's about right. Don't know about DHCP, either, but the Win box would be the default gateway.
[10:34] <swx> Help with gnome-art please
[10:34] <EnsignRedshirt> subzero2000: I do too, but I am finding a discrepancy. The web page says the package installs several .h files, but the list of installed files in Synaptic doesn't show them--and I don't have them on my disk.
[10:34] <|Jason8|> I suppose I could search through some of the FAQ's...
[10:34] <_`XeOn_> any1 knows a good mp3 player?
[10:34] <subzero2000> Hmm...Try packages.debian.org?
[10:34] <pollywog> EnsignRedshirt: you play ST Elite Force?
[10:34] <pbureau> so if I connect my HP2600 on usb to this laptop all is cosy... how to I use it on network (its networked already and on the router)...? whats the config like to get this printer to get printing on a network ?
[10:34] <lemon> I installed Ubuntu 6.10 a few days ago on a laptop, only issue is when i try to change users on the login screen, when i sign off 1 user and try to switch to another, it freezes and completely locks up. i have to restart to get out. anyway to fix this?
[10:34] <juano__> _`XeOn_: audacious
[10:34] <subzero2000> Maybe it's an Ubuntu site discrepancy.
[10:35] <_`XeOn_> ty
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> pollywog: No... ?  Should I?
[10:35] <pbureau> I mean the printer works from all stations... just problem config under ubuntu
[10:35] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[10:35] <LjL> !es | anti_system32
[10:35] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:35] <amortvigil> does any one know how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/866536
[10:35] <LjL> subzero2000: true enough... i suppose also that if you type "ipconfig" on your windows box, it'd let you know which address you need to set for the linux box... maybe
[10:35] <pollywog> EnsignRedshirt: oic, it's just that the default player name is RedShirt in Elite Force
[10:35] <pike_> lemon: as a workaround maybe instead of logoff just alt-ctrl-backspace
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> pollywog: Ah, I see.
[10:35] <arnaud__> irc.revolsys.fr
[10:36] <lemon> pike: thanks ill give it a go
[10:36] <EnsignRedshirt> pollywog: Scroll down to "Expendability": http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/star_trek_insp.html
[10:36] <pollywog> too bad only the original Elite Force game is supported in Cedega
[10:36] <LjL> amortvigil: uhm, it seems you're using a local proxy for HTTP downloads, and it seems that somehow your download is getting corrupted. perhaps the two are related
[10:36] <pollywog> k
[10:37] <dirrty> anyone using fs-driver... So that Windoz XP my documents and Ubuntu /home  is same partition on dual boot?
[10:37] <Landon> Hey all, how do I change my resolution from 24-bit to 32-bit?
[10:37] <deadhob1> Ugh I'm stumped.
[10:37] <n2diy> erUSUL: enigmail works like a charm.
[10:38] <deadhob1> I REALLY need to recover some data off of this laptop drive, but I can't even think of how to do it with windows
[10:38] <pollywog> EnsignRedshirt: that is very funny, the redshirt always buys the farm
[10:38] <erUSUL> n2diy: congrats
[10:38] <EnsignRedshirt> pollywog: :)
[10:38] <juano__> Landon: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the display section
[10:38] <erUSUL> ! info testdisk
[10:38] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[10:38] <|Jason8|> deadhob1, liveCD?
[10:38] <juano__> Landon: try finding something like this:  Depth           24
[10:38] <deadhob1> Jason: no, normal install
[10:39] <Landon> Cool, I'll check it out
[10:39] <juano__> Landon: you can try adding a new subsection in there, copy one and paste it after the last one, then just change the 24 for 32
[10:39] <|Jason8|> deadhob1 what's your problem?  You need to recover data...?
[10:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Any malone gurus here?  How do I search for bugs related to a specific package?
[10:39] <juano__> Landon: it might work, but first check to see if your card supports it
[10:39] <Landon> It does, It usually does
[10:39] <hobbesmaster> i'm using the nvidia-glx drivers with a geforce 7950GT.  every time I reboot I lose direct rendering, but if I do apt-get remove nvidia-glx, kill the xserver, then install nvidia-glx and start the xserver again I'll have direct rendering....  any ideas on whats happening?
[10:39] <dm> Anyone knwo the app to install gfx drivers automatically? i have forgotten the command, it is a initlel app
[10:40] <deadhob1>  Jason: Well, I have a laptop harddrive that was working fine in windows a few months back, and I expected it to work normally under ubuntu but it hasn't.. and I've been able to put up with it till now, but I really need to get some files off of it
[10:40] <_`XeOn_> its normal that sometimes applications just frezze ? if so how to kill ?
[10:41] <amortvigil> LjL yup im using dansguardian(content fliter) tinyproxy and firehol(fire wall) but i have the ftp address in my sites exetion list
[10:41] <|Jason8|> deadhob1, the files are under the ubuntu partition or the windows partition?
[10:41] <tsoler> hello t all
[10:41] <LjL> _`XeOn_: "normal", *shrug*, no, but it happens. to kill, use "killall name-of-the-application-in-the-right-case", or the process list i guess (gnome-system-manager? i'm not sure)
[10:41] <pollywog> Xeon for X apps you can use xkill
[10:41] <tsoler> guys ive just installed edgy server
[10:41] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use for rar files
[10:41] <dm> How do i stop GDM?
[10:41] <deadhob1> Jason: Well, I believe its a NTFS formatted drive, but there is not an operating system on the disk. It is a slide-in modular drive that I can swap with a DVD burner (which works correctly)
[10:42] <Subhuman> Is anyone finding the flashplugin-nonfree plugin fails to download using the Seveas repositories?
[10:42] <Gosha> would there be any problems for me to install a win 2k copy on my /windows partition now that i've allready installed ubuntu on the rest of the harddisk?
[10:42] <_`XeOn_> ill try
[10:42] <dm> !gdm
[10:42] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[10:42] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use for rar files
[10:42] <tsoler> how do i enter on it?
[10:42] <dm> !stop gdm
[10:42] <erUSUL> dm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stop gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <pollywog> for others use 'ps ax' to find the PID and then 'kill -9 <PID>'
[10:42] <tsoler> it aqsks me user name and password
[10:42] <|Jason8|> Okay, so windows can't access it?
[10:42] <erUSUL> dm: who would have said it ;)
[10:42] <pollywog>  stop with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:42] <tsoler> but how do i enter on gui?
[10:43] <deadhob1> Jason: it dosn't show up in mnt or appear in dmesg when I reseat the drive
[10:43] <ruben> Hi, using gnome, what is the way to change the icon on the left from Applications?
[10:43] <_`XeOn_> !gsm
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gsm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <tsoler> guys some help here please?
[10:43] <tsoler> im a novice
[10:43] <shatrat> Do you want to know how to log in, tsoler?
[10:44] <|Jason8|> deadhob1 hrm... that's wierd.  Right-click My Computer > Manage  Does it show up there?
[10:44] <tsoler> yes
[10:44] <dm> How do i stop X on a tty?
[10:44] <dm> Ursul can you help me again?
[10:44] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use for rar files
[10:44] <Gosha> !windows
[10:44] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:44] <juano__> dm: sudo init 3
[10:44] <pollywog> dm:
[10:44] <shatrat> I haven't used the server edition. are you at a command prompt right now tsoler?
[10:44] <tsoler> is asks me for usrname and pass and then what?
[10:44] <erUSUL> tsoler: during install you have been asked for an username and password use them
[10:44] <pollywog> what juano said
[10:44] <tsoler> no
[10:44] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use for rar files in linux
[10:44] <dm> juano_ didnt do anything
[10:45] <shatrat> you are at the log in screen?
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> OK, now I'm pretty sure there is a packaging bug in mesa-common-dev in 6.06, but I would like some else to verify it.  Could a volunteer using 6.06 installed mesa-common-dev, and then check if gl.h is installed in /usr/include/GL ?
[10:45] <tsoler> im booting from xp right now
[10:45] <pollywog> Cyrus unrar
[10:45] <Gosha> !equivalents
[10:45] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> s/some else/someone else/
[10:45] <shatrat> tsoler: what do you see when you boot up ubuntu?
[10:45] <erUSUL> tsoler: have you instaled in oem mode (adress me as i do)
[10:45] <deadhob1> Jason: uhhh.. sorry if I'm a moron here, but I don't know of any "My Computer" in ubuntu, and I tried just "Computer" and I don't see a manage :/
[10:45] <dm> pollywog that didnt do anything
[10:45] <pollywog>  stop with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:45] <pike_> Cyrus25801: unrar  install the nonfree one. use like "unrar e file.rar"
[10:45] <pollywog> if it's gdm
[10:45] <dm> pollywog that wong close X tho
[10:45] <Corrius> is any spanish speaker in the room?
[10:46] <tsoler> i am asked for usernam and pass and the n i get a coomand line starting with tsoler something
[10:46] <pollywog> Corrius: #ubuntu-es
[10:46] <juano__> dm, try hitting ctrl + alt + backspace from X, that restarts it
[10:46] <Cyrus25801> pike_: is there anything that has a gui
[10:46] <Corrius> thanks pollywoog
[10:46] <pollywog> I think he wants to stop it
[10:46] <pollywog>  stop with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:46] <deadhob1> heyy I finally got an error
[10:46] <|Jason8|> deadhob1, oh, you're in ubuntu.  those were XP commands.  If you do that, you might be able to mount the drive in windows and assign it a letter.
[10:46] <erUSUL> tsoler: that's it, the server does not have any gui
[10:46] <shatrat> If you want a gui maybe you shouldnt have installed the server edition tsoler, you can make a server out of any of the others as well.
[10:46] <tsoler> ???
[10:46] <pollywog> use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:46] <juano__> pollywog: ahh yes, dm, try what pollywog suggests
[10:47] <pike_> Cyrus25801: maybe file-roller
[10:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Pretty please?
[10:47] <deadhob1> "APIC error oon CPU0: 00(40)"
[10:47] <deadhob1> duno if thats my problem tho
[10:47] <erUSUL> tsoler: everything have worked as expected
[10:47] <shatrat> but to start it, if there is one installed, try "startx" or "sudo init 5"
[10:47] <deadhob1> Jason: ah, I cant actually get windows to install on the darn thing, no idea why. I would rather just make ubuntu work anyway
[10:47] <tsoler> server edition is only command driven??
[10:47] <aa_> hi, am I totally imagining it, or is pygtk broken in edgy?
[10:47] <shatrat> tsoler: why not, gui is just wasted memory on most servers
[10:47] <deafboy> what is the "glx" module for?
[10:47] <erUSUL> tsoler: yes you can install the gui if you want
[10:47] <EnsignRedshirt> If you are running 6.06 (dapper), could you do this: sudo apt-get install mesa-common-dev           ...and then check for /usr/include/GL/gl.h ???
[10:48] <tsoler> i suppose so idont get any errors
[10:48] <pike_> Cyrus25801: you should be able to google for a front end to unrar im sure someone has made a gui
[10:48] <dirrty>  anyone using fs-driver... So that Windoz XP my documents and Ubuntu /home  is same partition on dual boot?
[10:48] <tsoler> how?
[10:48] <dirrty> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:48] <ProN00b> if i want to try out xfce, should i install xubuntu-desktop, or will that add default background services or anything to my gnome desk ?
[10:48] <shatrat> dirrty: I dont think doing that would be a good idea
[10:48] <pollywog> isn't GLX only for machines that use Nvidia cards?
[10:48] <dirrty> why?
[10:48] <deadhob1> Jason: sorry but I gotta run now.. thakns for your help tho
[10:49] <pbureau> I have a printer on my network, all workstations on the network can see it (windows boxes), how do I configure this printer in ubuntu to print off it..?
[10:49] <LjL> pollywog: no. almost the contrary actually
[10:49] <shatrat> dirrty: you'd get a ton of .gnome and .wine and other linux config files in it, they get saved automatically in your $HOME.  would look cluttered in windows
[10:49] <|Jason8|> later.
[10:49] <|Jason8|> good luck with it.
[10:49] <pollywog> LjL: oic
[10:49] <tsoler> erusul ? can i download the gui right from the command line??
[10:49] <deafboy> Ljl: what is it for? i just disabled it
[10:49] <deadhob1> thank you, I'll probably need it :p
[10:49] <erUSUL> tsoler: try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[10:49] <deadhob1> bye
[10:49] <shatrat> tsoler: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:49] <ProN00b> dirrty, if you mount your windows documents folder you won't have linux permissions, doing it the other way arround however could be impossible because of windows limitations
[10:49] <tsoler> ok got that
[10:49] <LjL> deafboy: it's for OpenGL rendering of some sort, but i'll not venture into more precise explanations of things i don't really know about
[10:50] <pike_> tsoler: noo! sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[10:50] <ProN00b> dirrty, oh, yeah, i forgot about the cluttered thing
[10:50] <tsoler> are u sure of the syntax shatrat?
[10:50] <shatrat> Propoganda!
[10:50] <shatrat> tsoler: quite sure that is the right command.  Then you will have to start it
[10:50] <deafboy> Ljl: I was having speed issues with beryl before, and i disabled it and it seems faster....
[10:50] <tsoler> i mean i have to boot back here if there is any error in syntax?
[10:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Is nobody here running 6.06 (dapper)?
[10:51] <pike_> EnsignRedshirt: i am.
[10:51] <shatrat> tsoler: "sudo apt-get install" will find and install packages, if they are listed in your repositories, and "ubuntu-desktop" is a meta-package which will install all the needed stuff for a Gnome desktop
[10:52] <EnsignRedshirt> pike_: Could you run a quick test for me? Install mesa-common-dev, and then check for the file /usr/include/GL/gl.h
[10:52] <tsoler> ok shatrat i ll try this imediattely
[10:52] <Lurner> does anyone know if I can get samba to use NWLink instead of TCP /IP so I don't have to enbable netbios over TCP/IP on my window machines ?
[10:52] <polika> hi
[10:52] <shatrat> tsoler: to start it you need to type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:52] <dirrty> http://www.fs-driver.org/  will let windoz xp see ext3
[10:52] <shatrat> tsoler: that will start the Gnome Desktop Manager after you have installed it
[10:53] <mjr> Lurner, I'm not sure if that's possible
[10:53] <EnsignRedshirt> pike_: According to packages.ubuntu.com gl.h should be installed (along with a few other .h files), but on my system, I don't have it (and Synaptic doesn't list it in the installed files).
[10:53] <polika> polska najlepsza jest
[10:53] <pbureau> I have a printer on my network, all workstations on the network can see it (windows boxes), how do I configure this printer in ubuntu to print off it..? I cannot see it on the network (ie I dont see its host name...)
[10:53] <Lurner> I'm using ubuntu and ext3
[10:53] <polika> niemcy to pedaly
[10:53] <polika> anglicy gnoje
[10:53] <LjL> !pl | polika
[10:53] <max__> any one heard of freecom hard drives? are they good?
[10:53] <Lurner> thanks for the tip though
[10:53] <ubotu> polika: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:53] <tsoler> after installing the desktop would it be server already or do i ahve to add on components?
[10:53] <polika> polacy sa najlepsi
[10:54] <Lurner> you have to provide the linux driver for it
[10:54] <tsoler> ok shatrat ill try the commands
[10:54] <erUSUL> pbureau: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[10:54] <tsoler> see you from gnome if it goes well
[10:54] <max__> any one heard of freecom hard drives? are they good?
[10:54] <tsoler> :)
[10:55] <pbureau> erUSUL,  thanks man
[10:55] <Paradosso> hi there
[10:55] <redguy> !pl > polika
[10:55] <Paradosso> is there a way to install ubuntu via the internet?
[10:55] <cafuego_> maxI doubt it
[10:55] <Vom> Okay
[10:55] <LjL> !minimal | Paradosso
[10:55] <ubotu> Paradosso: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:55] <Vom> Now everything is set for my ubuntu adventure
[10:55] <Vom> see you peeps in a hour or so
[10:55] <LjL> Paradosso: if that's what you mean. what do you mean?
[10:56] <dirrty> I don't know I was just thinking about it I got 4 drives so space is not a problem....wanting to find someone who had already done it and learn LOL
[10:56] <Paradosso> LjL: being able to install without a CD
[10:57] <LjL> Paradosso: then you'll need something rather more complicated... there *is* probably a way, but i believe you'll need another computer
[10:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Paradosso about install | Paradosso, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:57] <EnsignRedshirt> pike_: Nevermind... after I reinstalled mesa-common-dev, I now have the missing files. I don't understand why I didn't have them in the first place, though.
[10:57] <LjL> Paradosso: you could always install using VMWare or something
[10:58] <pike_> EnsignRedshirt: ok my repos were screwed up anyway :)
[10:58] <BrendanM> Hey, so I have a problem where sometimes my microphone stops working. Rebooting always fixes it, but I was wondering if there was a way to like re-start the alsa sound system without rebooting the whole system?
[10:58] <pbureau> erUSUL, that was so easy...lol thanks man
[10:59] <erUSUL> pbureau: no problem
[11:00] <Jowi> BrendanM, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart (might work)
[11:00] <BrendanM> ok, thanks. Unfortunately I can't test it till my mic goes out.
[11:00] <BrendanM> I think it might have something to do with either hibernate-restore or possibly the flash player
[11:01] <ruben_> using gnome, what is the way to change the icon on the left from Applications?
[11:01] <jatt> ruben_: in dapper?
[11:01] <LjL> BrendanM: sound system not working after a hibernate is a problem i've had. (no i didn't solve it)
[11:01] <pbureau> humm...
[11:01] <ruben_> jatt: yes, using gnome
[11:01] <pbureau> not printing anything....hummm
[11:02] <BrendanM> It's not the whole sound system though, the speakers are fine, it's just the mic input (which is weird)
[11:02] <ruben_> jatt: you know?
[11:02] <BrendanM> LjL, did you do a workaround like restarting alsa?
[11:02] <Jowi> BrendanM, you're sure it isn't just muted?
[11:02] <LjL> BrendanM: weird enough. i assume you're positively sure the mixer settings come up right?
[11:02] <BrendanM> Yes.
[11:02] <jatt> ruben_: is a pain in the ass. You need to replace a .svg file. (distributor-logo.svg)
[11:02] <LjL> BrendanM: no, i just stopped using hibernation ;-) it had too many problems for me besides that one
[11:02] <MoxJet> is there a way to list all "apt-get install" packages you have?
[11:02] <LjL> !language | jatt
[11:02] <ubotu> jatt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:02] <LjL> MoxJet: dpkg --get-selections
[11:03] <BrendanM> I did once think it was broken except and it turned out to be the mixer settings, so I'll never make that mistake again.
[11:03] <shatrat> !anything
[11:03] <MoxJet> thanks
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <LjL> MoxJet: you mean the ones you have *installed* (that's the above), or the ones you have available?
[11:03] <MoxJet> installed ones
[11:04] <MoxJet> i have installed kubuntu-desktop and I want to remove it, how would I do that efficiently? I tried apt-get remove but it only removed 41kb and it seems there still are a lot of kde packages around
[11:04] <LjL> MoxJet: are you on Edgy?
[11:04] <MoxJet> Dapper
[11:04] <MoxJet> 6.06 lts
[11:04] <break_> what kind of tools are there for linux that can check the S.M.A.R.T status of a hard drive?
[11:04] <LjL> MoxJet: then you're out of luck. however, if you remove the kdelibs package (the name is different though, kdelibs4c2a or something), you'll remove most of it
[11:04] <LjL> MoxJet: next time, you might want to consider
[11:04] <LjL> Ubotu, tell MoxJet about aptitude | MoxJet, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:05] <jatt> ruben_: try this instructions:
[11:05] <jatt> http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/change-the-menu-bar-logo-on-ubuntu-dapper/
[11:05] <LjL> Ubotu, tell break_ about smartmontools | break_, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:05] <MoxJet> hehe thanks
[11:05] <jatt> changing the .svg file works. I did it two days ago on my laptop
[11:05] <pike_> MoxJet: dpkg -L or like grep Package /var/lib/dpkg/status | sed 's/Package:\ //'
[11:05] <break_> oh sweet
[11:05] <break_> i'll be back in a minute
[11:05] <break_> im on windwos right now
[11:05] <break_> :x
[11:05] <break_> Uptime: 4 days 1 hours 32 minutes 51 seconds
[11:05] <break_> haha
[11:06] <break_> and its acting weird :(
[11:06] <MoxJet> sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a will free 402Mb, thanks
[11:06] <svfusion> Warning: Unknown(/var/www/index.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[11:06] <svfusion> Warning: (null)(): Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[11:06] <svfusion> anyidea what that means?
[11:07] <|Jason8|> svfusion, what were you trying to do when that happened?
[11:08] <HymnToLife> svfusion, that you don't have permission to access the file
[11:08] <svfusion> install phpbb2
[11:08] <svfusion> how do I give premiession
[11:08] <RememberPOL> How might one go about playing FLV files?
[11:08] <dirrty> OK Later Ya'll thanks for the help
[11:08] <timo> can any one help i cant install irc-0.8.0
[11:08] <sponix> Anyone in here built Coolkey packages ?
[11:09] <n2diy> ! karma
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <svfusion> how do I change premessions where it is save
[11:09] <HymnToLife> svfusion, such chown -R $(whoami) /var/www && sudo chmod -R 755 /var/ww
[11:09] <timo> ./setup.sh dose not work
[11:09] <HymnToLife> www*
[11:09] <HymnToLife> should do the trick
[11:09] <tuskernini> QUESTION: how do i burn an image to disk with cdrdao?
[11:09] <erUSUL> tuskernini: man cdrdao ? ;)
[11:10] <HymnToLife> sudo*
[11:10] <tuskernini> erUSUL, :-) BUSY with that... just thought someone had it up there already
[11:11] <break_> alright, what was it called?
[11:11] <RememberPOL> ffmpeg in mainstream repo is outtdated causing a lack of support for video is FLV files (audio works, [in VLC] )
[11:11] <break_> smartmontools?
[11:12] <erUSUL> tuskernini: cdrdao --device /dev/cdrw *.cue
[11:12] <tuskernini> erUSUL, thank you... will try it with .iso...
[11:12] <erUSUL> ??
[11:12] <sponix> !repos
[11:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:12] <erUSUL> tuskernini: cdrdao does no work with isos afaik use cdrecord
[11:13] <sponix> !EasySource
[11:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:13] <tuskernini> erUSUL, ok will try ta
[11:14] <break_> alright, i have smartmontools now what do i do with it
[11:15] <dm> Anyone here know how to get rid of the "fixme" messages when running WOW under wine
[11:15] <MoxJet> I've installed an iso Live CD with OK md5sum, but when I burned it it gave me an error at the first loading stage... could the file still be corrupted or did the burning go wrong?
[11:15] <LjL> break_: depends on what you *want* to do... "smartctl" is the main command to give you information. "smartctl -H /dev/hdwhatever" will tell you if the drive is healthy or not, in a (not very reliable) yes/no manner. "smartctl -A /dev/hdwhatever" to see all attributes
[11:15] <ChrisGo> dm: Yes run it under Windows XP
[11:15] <LjL> dm: console messages? redirect stderr to null i suppose
[11:15] <fr00d> Who administrates Ubotu?
[11:15] <pbureau> I have a printer on my network, all workstations on the network can see it (windows boxes), how do I configure this printer in ubuntu to print off it..? I cannot see it on the network (ie I dont see its host name...) it is not share on an XP box its running on its own ip address.
[11:16] <dm> ChrisGo, nah i get better performance in linux
[11:16] <LjL> fr00d: what do you mean?
[11:16] <ChrisGo> dm: really thats awesome
[11:16] <selinuxium> Hi all, I am in a band and want to build a dedicated burning PC, I want to be able to burn to all the drives at the same time. is this possible without running seperate instances of programs, piping the data to seperate drives?
[11:16] <fr00d> Who's bot is it?
[11:16] <fr00d> Who has the accounts to the server and so on..
[11:16] <Trixsey> How do I copy media from the CD to my comp?
[11:16] <dm> ChrisGo yep, id get even more if i could figure out the command to get rid of the fixme messages . improves it 2-4 fps
[11:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell fr00d about bot | fr00d, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:16] <Trixsey> I tried cd /media/cdrom/... and then sudo mv
[11:16] <Trixsey> but it didn't work
[11:16] <Trixsey> what do I do :/
[11:16] <LjL> fr00d: if you need that sort of information, #ubuntu-ops is for you
[11:16] <ChrisGo> dm: is it really worth all that trouble to just play wow?
[11:17] <dm> ChrisGo i got rid of the command when i quit wow, im playing it again now
[11:17] <dm> ChrisGo its no trouble, all i did was pop in the CDs install, patch and go, no patches or anything needed
[11:17] <ChrisGo> dm: i gave it up about 2 weeks ago sold account never looking back
[11:17] <dm> Chrisgo no wine patches* needed
[11:17] <tiagoboldt> not really into the channel topic, but is there anyone with a fon invite to share? :|
[11:17] <break_> ugh
[11:18] <Trixsey> guys?
[11:18] <dm> ChrisGo i sold my 60 druid for $250.00, the guy quit wow and i got the account back.
[11:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell tiagoboldt about offtopic | tiagoboldt, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:18] <ChrisGo> dm: So by running under wine and patching you dont get flagged as hacking?
[11:18] <LjL> !doesn't work > Trixsey
[11:18] <sponix> is CoolKey in fiesty ?
[11:18] <fr00d> LjL: thanks
[11:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sponix about feisty | sponix, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:18] <ChrisGo> dm: mine was smater than that changed the contact name and email by calling
[11:18] <dm> ChrisGo nope, even if they ban me, they are letting linux guys have the accounts back.
[11:18] <sponix> LjL: thanks
[11:18] <superm1> #/join #ubuntu-motu
[11:18] <dm> ChrisGo i didnt give him the CDs
[11:19] <zumbafoo> hello, how do I get packages that I can find in /pool/
[11:20] <dm> ChrisGo were you informed that he changed the name and email?
[11:20] <pbureau> anyone print on a printer on a network (printer has its own IP address ) ?
[11:20] <hjmills> what web server daemon does anybody recommend for a light testing server which easily supports php, mysql and multiple sites very easily?
[11:21] <Eris> I've been looking for information regarding the screen blanking/shutting down regardless of the powermanagement or screensaver options on edgy. I've read around on the neat about simular problems but they all seem to be related to dpms and NOT turning the monitor off. I have option "DPMS" "false" (and yes ive even tried it true) still same thing, i try xset dpms 0 0 0 and it still blanks after 10 mins, driving me nuts
[11:21] <shatrat> hjmills: anything wrong with apache?
[11:22] <pbureau> Eris you have the power managment tools to NOT goto sleep ?
[11:22] <pbureau> anyone print on a printer on a network (printer has its own IP address ) ?
[11:22] <Eris> it used to work fine till i upgraded from breezy thru dapper to edgy a week or so ago
[11:22] <hjmills> shatrat, well i dont really need its power and it seems fairly complicated to set up multiple sites but that may be because I havent done enough research
[11:22] <pbureau> Eris, I know that edgy is buggy could be a bug plain and simple.
[11:23] <hjmills> !repeat | pbureau
[11:23] <ubotu> pbureau: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:23] <Eris> pbureau: im not sure what you mean but i have changed the settings in the powermanagement dialog
[11:23] <shatrat> hjmills: well, I don't have much experience with any web server, but I have set up apache before for simple pages and it was pretty easy
[11:23] <Eris> also since i have xfce and kde installed i looked for and changed any power management settings there too (couldnt find any in xfce)
[11:24] <shatrat> Eris: you can add noacpi to your kernel boot args
[11:24] <Eris> thanks shatrat thats something i havent tried yet
[11:24] <shatrat> Eris: I think that will stop any power saving functions
[11:24] <hjmills> shatrat, I have used it in the past but I ended up with ugly symlinks from my home dirs to /var/www when ideally I would like it just to use ~/webs/<subfolder> as the site
[11:24] <gili> what do i need to play QT MOV files
[11:24] <break_> um
[11:24] <pbureau> gili get quicktime for linux
[11:24] <hjmills> !quicktime
[11:24] <break_> i'm getting permission denied
[11:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <gili> ok
[11:25] <hjmills> break_, what you trying to do>?
[11:25] <gili> didnt know that existed
[11:25] <break_> and all i'm trying to check is my drives S.M.A.R.T info
[11:25] <gili> thanks
[11:25] <break_> status
[11:25] <LjL> break_: use sudo
[11:25] <LjL> Ubotu, tell break_ about root | break_, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:25] <LjL> break_: sudo smartctl ...
[11:25] <break_> ahh haha
[11:25] <break_> thats lame
[11:25] <LjL> why?
[11:25] <Eris> one other odd thing, after i played with the settings in KDE then went back into gnome, i can get the monitor not to shut off, but the screen still blanks after 10 mins
[11:25] <pbureau> gili,  try http://tucows.com/preview/9912
[11:25] <break_> alright
[11:26] <break_> now its saying my drive doenst support S.M.A.R.T
[11:26] <break_> why.
[11:26] <crazy_penguin> good night to all
[11:26] <gili> ok thanks
[11:26] <nikitis> Hey guys, i've been comptemplating switching over to Ubuntu from Fedora.  I've coded things for fedora, but I'm not liking the way things are turning out over there.  Do you guys have a feature list URL?
[11:27] <TTT_Travis> what is the command to find the bus id of my videocard?
[11:27] <nikitis> lspci
[11:27] <TTT_Travis> lspci -v
[11:27] <TTT_Travis> yep
[11:27] <TTT_Travis> thanks
[11:28] <nikitis> Welcome
[11:28] <goodgerster> whazilla: I'm back
[11:28] <shatrat> zounds
[11:28] <goodgerster> and I completely forgot what we were talking about
[11:28] <nikitis> What do you guys recommend more for Eye Candy.  Ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:29] <goodgerster> nikitis: ubuntu
[11:29] <lupine_85> kubuntu
[11:29] <lupine_85> kde is prettier than gnome
[11:29] <whazilla> hey goodgerster
[11:29] <seba> Elo
[11:29] <TTT_Travis> how do I actually find the bus id, xorg config is asking me for it
[11:29] <Ha1> /Hey everyone
[11:29] <pbureau> nikitis,  depends if you like KDE or Gnome
[11:29] <lupine_85> kompmgr, etc
[11:29] <shatrat> nikitis: Beryl
[11:29] <LjL> !offtopic
[11:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:29] <Swe3tDave> ubuntu with beryl
[11:29] <whazilla> can we pm mr goodgerster ?
[11:29] <nikitis> the 3D effects
[11:29] <nikitis> no compiz?
[11:29] <nikitis> or is that the same?
[11:29] <break_> now its saying my drive doenst support S.M.A.R.T
[11:29] <RememberPOL> Is there an easy way to upgrade to Flash 9?
[11:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell nikitis about compiz | nikitis, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:30] <nikitis> ubuntu supports compiz with aiglx right?
[11:30] <LjL> nikitis: compiz and beryl do provide "3d effects"
[11:30] <lupine_85> nikitis: compiz & beryl works with ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:30] <LjL> nikitis: aiglx or xgl, but best place to ask is #ubuntu-xgl
[11:30] <lupine_85> for that, it really doesn't matter which you choose
[11:30] <shatrat> nikitis: Beryl is a fork off compiz, it gets more development and has more plugins now I think
[11:30] <goodgerster> whazilla: you can pm your yahoo, google talk or msn address to me
[11:30] <Ha1> I created myself an ext3 partition to install ubuntu onto when I first started using it, obviously. However, its only about 5MBs, far too small for what I want.
[11:30] <break_> does anybody have an explanation why smartmontools thinks my drive doesnt support S.M.A.R.T?
[11:30] <Vom> Hello my dear helpers
[11:30] <whazilla> msn
[11:30] <Ha1> I have created a second ext3 partition, but how do I mount it?
[11:30] <nikitis> I enjoy aiglx better cause it's a part of X
[11:30] <LjL> break_: you have it disabled in the BIOS, or the drive is very very old
[11:30] <break_> no i dont
[11:30] <nikitis> so i would prefer that, thanks for the info
[11:30] <break_> its enabled
[11:31] <break_> and the drive is pretty new
[11:31] <break_> it does support smart
[11:31] <nsirota> Hey guys
[11:31] <Vom> I'd have a question; has everyone experienced this: when i start ubuntu 6.10 installation, the progress block goes right for 2-3 minutes, then it just suddently jams on one position and I can see blue/green pixelcrap right under the ubuntu logo
[11:31] <shadowhywind> by anychance is pollywog still here?
[11:31] <zumbafoo> break scsi drive?
[11:31] <break_> sata
[11:31] <nikitis> One more tech question.  How does Ubuntu support software raids now?  I need something that can boot from a software raid
[11:31] <Vom> I mean anyone
[11:31] <shatrat> Ha1: are you installing onto the new partition? I dont think you could have installed t all if the other partition was only 5 megabytes
[11:31] <LjL> break_: then type "sudo smartctl --smart=on /dev/whatever" - oh SATA? that might be different
[11:32] <LjL> break_: "man smartctl" helps too
[11:32] <Ha1> 5 GB, sorry
[11:32] <Ha1> Also, Vom
[11:32] <Vom> Have you figured anything ?
[11:32] <Ha1> Its to do with your graphics and such. I had a bluegreen pixelly mess, too
[11:32] <ChrisGo> How do I start the server?
[11:32] <Ha1> Changed my graphics drivers from nv [I have an Nvidia card]  to vesa
[11:32] <zumbafoo> what kernel break_?
[11:32] <nikitis> Does ubuntu support compiz or berryl with dual monitors of different resolution?
[11:32] <shatrat> Ha1: I see.  Well, you can add a line for it to your /etc/fstab but thats kind of the hard way. I think you can add mount points to things using the Gnome Partition Editor as well in the System menu
[11:32] <Vom> Ha1 wtf?
[11:33] <Vom> Can you change those before even starting the damn installation?
[11:33] <Ha1> What?
[11:33] <break_> dapper upgraded to edgy
[11:33] <dtzjdtzj> hi does rhythmbox play mp3? it says it is not an audio stream
[11:33] <shatrat> nikitis: dual monitors is a pain with either
[11:33] <zumbafoo> break_ I'm not sure when it was put in, but it's not that old .. smart support I mean
[11:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dtzjdtzj about mp3 | dtzjdtzj, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:33] <Ha1> Dw, Vom
[11:33] <nsirota> Im having a problem with a fresh install of edgy, as soon as I log in, X seems to crash and I cant click on anything, but the mouse still works.Im having a problem with a fresh install of edgy, as soon as I log in, X seems to crash and I cant click on anything, but the mouse still works.  Same happens when the gui loads on the live CD.
[11:33] <break_> i'm sure my drive supports it
[11:33] <TTT_Travis> 0000:01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] 
[11:33] <break_> ive been getting smart errors
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | dtzjdtzj
[11:33] <nsirota> Im having a problem with a fresh install of edgy, as soon as I log in, X seems to crash and I cant click on anything, but the mouse still works.
[11:33] <ubotu> dtzjdtzj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <Vom> Dw ?
[11:33] <TTT_Travis> what should I put for Bus ID?
[11:33] <TTT_Travis> 0000:01:08.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] 
[11:33] <TTT_Travis> with that
[11:33] <zumbafoo> break_ are you sure your driver / kernel supports it?
[11:33] <nikitis> shatrat: i had to write code for it to even work with Fedora, but I was wondering where ubuntu was with that development
[11:33] <TheHermit> i want to install sogo ui font is there a pckage for it
[11:33] <break_> i dont know
[11:33] <break_> linux is crap
[11:33] <break_> nothing works right
[11:33] <LjL> !username | break_
[11:33] <ubotu> break_: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[11:33] <LjL> !offtopic | break_
[11:33] <ubotu> break_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:33] <jrib> break_: explain your problem instead of complaining
[11:34] <Ha1> break_ is wrong.
[11:34] <break_> i did
[11:34] <Ha1> Break_ should ask for help
[11:34] <break_> i did
[11:34] <zumbafoo> break_, you're more than welcome to use whatever else you like :)
[11:34] <LjL> break_: have you *tried* the last command i gave you?
[11:34] <break_> yes
[11:34] <shatrat> nikitis: well, ubuntu doesnt write compiz or beryl.  The support is up to them.. I dont have dual monitors though so maybe it has gotten better.  I know a lot of people have had problems with dual monitors and compisite window managers though
[11:34] <Ha1> Yeah, go and get a Mac...
[11:34] <nsirota> can some one please point me in the right direction?
[11:34] <Tschaka> break_ maybe its a matter of hardware..
[11:34] <Vom> Ha1 could you help me, please.
[11:34] <LjL> break_: then i wouldn't mind hearing from you
[11:34] <Tschaka> im off anyway nn ubuntu comm
[11:34] <nikitis> shatrat: ok thanks
[11:34] <break_> my drive does support smart
[11:34] <break_> how many times do i have to tell you all??
[11:34] <nsirota> Im having a problem with a fresh install of edgy, as soon as I log in, X seems to crash and I cant click on anything, but the mouse still
[11:34] <nikitis> i'm going to go download the distribution now
[11:34] <nsirota>                  works.Im having a problem with a fresh install of edgy, as soon as I log in, X seems to crash and I cant click on anything, but the mouse
[11:35] <Ha1> Vom: Not really, I think were having different problems. Did you actrually get Edgy working?
[11:35] <LjL> break_: WHAT does "sudo smartctl --smart=on /dev/whatever" tell you? am i ever going to know?
[11:35] <Vom> Nope.
[11:35] <shatrat> nsirota: Sounds like you need to install different graphics card drivers perhaps
[11:35] <Vom> Jams when its loading Edgy's installer
[11:35] <Ha1> Vom: Sorry, different problems then.
[11:35] <Ha1> VAlthough probably similar in nature...
[11:35] <Vom> ah damnit.
[11:35] <Vom> Yeah
[11:35] <Ha1> Ah, wait a sec
[11:35] <break_> unable to fetch IEC (SMART) mode page [unsupported field in scsi command] 
[11:35] <break_> A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
[11:35] <nsirota> how would I check if the current ones are bad?
[11:36] <high-bass> hey guys.... i am new to linux ... anyways i installed ubuntu 6.10 and my ethernet card is detected... realtek 8139 but the dhcp is not working.. its not assigning any ip... i manually assigned ip to it and that didnt work either... im thinking that the drivers are prolyl not the right ones... can somone guide me to what steps i should take?
[11:36] <nsirota> x.0.log doesnt indicate any problems
[11:36] <LjL> break_: ok, that sounds like a problem with the HD being SATA. i'll look into it
[11:36] <Ha1> Did you have a screen full of options when you put the disc in, Vom, where you had a choice to use the Xvesa miniserver?
[11:36] <LjL> but see, if you don't tell me what happens, i can't help you break_
[11:36] <break_> it shouldnt make a difference...
[11:36] <Vom> Ha1 wtf?
[11:36] <Vom> What are you talking about now :d
[11:36] <Ha1> Are you installing on a LiveCd?
[11:36] <zumbafoo> break_ .. pay attention. I'm telling you, your kernel drivers don't support SMART on SATA drives
[11:36] <Vom> No :D
[11:36] <Ha1> Or an ISO for that matter?
[11:36] <Ha1> Burnt to disc
[11:36] <Vom> Yup.
[11:36] <zumbafoo> break_: I say nothing about your drive, just the drivers
[11:36] <shatrat> nsirota: I would try and change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa or something, and then try and log in
[11:37] <break_> well thats just lame
[11:37] <LjL> break_: try sudo smartctl --smart=on /dev/whatever -d ata
[11:37] <Ha1> Ok, is there any way to generally abort the whole install deal?
[11:37] <hairulfr> zumbafoo: Don't you get BIOS warnings?
[11:37] <Vom> Ha1 what do you mean?
[11:37] <Tatster> Hi all.   I am trying to boot a live cd of 6.10 on an Epia M1000 board.  I get the options screen but then I get an error that says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:37] <LjL> break_: it *most definitely* makes a difference, because SATA behaves like a SCSI controller and not as an IDE controller. anyway you've already been told that you can swich to something else if you find this OS lame
[11:37] <Ha1> Talk in PM, Vom?
[11:37] <break_> it says smart was enabled
[11:37] <LjL> break_: good, then now try "sudo smartctl -H /dev/whatever -d ata"
[11:38] <zumbafoo> hairulfr: for what?
[11:38] <LjL> break_: you'll have to append "-d ata" to all smartctl commands i believe
[11:38] <Vom> Ha1 sure
[11:38] <break_> yeah
[11:38] <break_> i got it
[11:38] <break_> thanks
[11:38] <zumbafoo> LjL: thanks for the info for break_, you learned me something as well :)
[11:38] <nsirota> shatrat: ok brb
[11:38] <high-bass> .0 .
[11:38] <hairulfr> zumbafoo: Faulty disk/beginning disk failure and the like
[11:38] <Keyseir> I'm getting an error when I launch azureus, I'd appreciate if someone could take a look. Running edgy. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2803/
[11:38] <LjL> zumbafoo: ;-)
[11:39] <zumbafoo> hairulfr: I'm not totall sure what you're asking me -- I don't have any bios / drive problems
[11:39] <aiiiiiiiii> hi
[11:39] <LjL> break_: the command for listing all SMART attributes will be "sudo smartctl -A /dev/whatever -d ata", and another useful command is "sudo smartctl -i /dev/whatever -d ata"
[11:39] <pbureau> anyone print on a printer on a network (printer has its own IP address ) ?
[11:39] <zumbafoo> if there are packages in /pool/ how can I install them? Specifically I have a repository that contains postgresql 8.2 packages that I'd like to install
[11:40] <AWOSDev7360> !seen cbx33
[11:40] <khoa> cbx33 n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33 was last seen Wed Jan 24 17:27:26 2007 quiting the network
[11:40] <shatrat> Keyseir: Looks like it was a problem with the .torrent you tried to open
[11:40] <HymnToLife> zumbafoo, wouldn't it be simpler to add that repo to your apt ?
[11:40] <ubotu> I last saw cbx33 (n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33) 11m 58s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[11:40] <LjL> zumbafoo: are those packages *intended* for Ubuntu? if they're intended for Debian, you may end up doing quite some damage by adding the repository
[11:40] <shatrat> Keyseir: Does it do that with other torrents?
[11:40] <hairulfr> Im just wondering why SMART is so important, it usually warns in bios
[11:40] <zumbafoo> HymnToLife: I'd love to! the problem is I'm not sure how!
[11:40] <AWOSDev7360> zumbafoo, you'll have to sudo edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:40] <LjL> hairulfr: well, don't you like to have advance notice that your HD is going to fail?
[11:40] <Keyseir> shatrat: I believe I cleared the torrents it was automatically opening, and as you can see from the paste I was just plain opening it.
[11:40] <AWOSDev7360> it's pretty straightforward after that
[11:41] <AWOSDev7360> LjL hehe
[11:41] <SeanTater> gam_server is currently usong 109 MB of memory  and 20% of the cpu -- is that normal?
[11:41] <AWOSDev7360> hairulfr yeah, normally something like hddtemp would work
[11:41] <AWOSDev7360> SeanTater kill it, it's unnecessary
[11:41] <Keyseir> shatrat Should I delete certain directories?
[11:41] <AWOSDev7360> SeanTater it's been a thorn in my side since Red Hat 9
[11:41] <Jaus12> Hi, what is the way to change the main menu icon using gnome??
[11:41] <shatrat> Keyseir: "Torrent must be a file ('[isoHunt]  house.s03e11.hdtv.xvid-xor.[VTV] .avi.torrent')" in the bug report
[11:41] <hairulfr> LjL: Yeah, AND it WILL in BIOS!
[11:41] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: heh, I can do that as well. here's my additional line: deb http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu edgy main
[11:41] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: the HD temperature is *one* SMART parameters (though HDs also report it separately, i believe), but it's far from the *only* important parameter about your drive's health
[11:41] <ET-Ben> crimsun: you around?
[11:42] <shatrat> Keyseir: you could go looking for that in your .azureus directory
[11:42] <Ha1> I created myself an ext3 partition to install ubuntu onto when I first started using it, obviously [The rest of the disc is old Windoze files and stuff from a less enlightened age] . However, its only about 5GB, far too small for what I want. I have just created a second ext3 partition for general storage, but how do I mount it?
[11:42] <LjL> hairulfr: the BIOS will only tell you if it's considered "PASSED" or not. which means very little.
[11:42] <SeanTater> AWOSDev7360: okay
[11:42] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: and here are the files I'm looking for: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.2/
[11:42] <LjL> hairulfr: besides, the check will be *only* done at boot time
[11:42] <SeanTater> AWOSDev7360: Thanks
[11:42] <LjL> so it's basically useless for 50% or so of people
[11:43] <AWOSDev7360> SeanTater :)
[11:43] <shatrat> Ha1: Did you try using the Gnoem Partition Editor to mount it?
[11:43] <czr> is anyone aware where I should look for an ia-64 version of ubuntu?
[11:43] <AWOSDev7360> LjL well, how does one get ALL of the SMART parameters?
[11:43] <AWOSDev7360> czr yeah hold on a sec
[11:43] <unvs> -A
[11:43] <LjL> !smartmontools | AWOSDev7360
[11:43] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB
[11:43] <shatrat> czr: thats itanium 64 right? I dont think i've seen one
[11:43] <goodgerster> czr: there is an x86_64 version on the official site. it's rather bad though
[11:43] <Ha1> shatrat: I used GPARTED to create it, but havent a clue how to mount it using GPARTED
[11:43] <goodgerster> shatrat: no, it's intel/amd 64
[11:44] <czr> ia-64 = itanium. not x86-64
[11:44] <AWOSDev7360> czr -- hey...aren't you the guy from ##kernel?
[11:44] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: the problem is, of course, that those deb packages don't appear in my list
[11:44] <czr> AWOSDev7360, indeed.
[11:44] <AWOSDev7360> zumbafoo which ones?
[11:44] <goodgerster> meh
[11:44] <AWOSDev7360> czr cool!  how are ya?
[11:44] <cafuego_> I don't thnik, there is an Ubuntu itanium.
[11:44] <czr> AWOSDev7360, fine I think. just trying to find the ia-64 port of ubuntu :-)
[11:44] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: and here are the files I'm looking for: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.2/
[11:44] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: the postgresql 8.2 ones I just posted
[11:44] <shatrat> Ha1: in system -> administration -> Gnome Partition Editor you can set mount points.  Unless I installed that myself I think you should have it
[11:44] <SeanTater> AWOSDev7360: is there a way to remove gamin without removing KDE?
[11:45] <cafuego_> Sell the hardware, buy faster x86_64 for a quarter the price and spend the rest on alcohol.
[11:45] <zumbafoo> AWOSDev7360: I'm wondering if I just have the apt source line wrong -- but it doesn't error or complain
[11:45] <Keyseir> shatrat, Deleted a bunch of stuff in .azureus and fixed it. Thx.
[11:45] <AWOSDev7360> SeanTater um yeah.  sudo apt-get remove gamin?  not quite sure, hold on
[11:45] <shatrat> Ha1: just right click the partition and therei s a mount option I believe
[11:45] <czr> cafuego, if that was suggestion for me then, well, I'll just ignore it :-)
[11:45] <Ha1> Nope
[11:45] <shatrat> Keyseir: good to know, good luck getting House season 3 episode 11 ;)
[11:45] <SeanTater> AWOSDev7360: I "apt-get -s remove gamin" 'd  it -- it removes about 150 packages
[11:45] <Ha1> Theres an unmount on mounted partitons, but nothing on unmounted, shatrat
[11:45] <cafuego_> czr: I heard some "interesting" stats on itanium performance at the local linux conference last week.
[11:46] <shatrat> czr: buying alcohol is never a bad suggestion.
[11:46] <Viglen> hey
[11:46] <jojoman02> anyone got ubuntu wifi to work on latest macbook?
[11:46] <Viglen> does anyone know how to update ubuntu to use kde?
[11:46] <AWOSDev7360> czr https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ia64
[11:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Viglen about kde | Viglen, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:46] <shatrat> Ha1: well, now my brain hurts.  You can mount it manually in your /etc/fstab if you like, it isnt that hard but you might need to do a little reading.
[11:46] <czr> cafuego, well. anyhow, it's not really the solution in my case :-)
[11:46] <lupine_85> Viglen: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:46] <Ha1> shatrat, is there an easy way to explain that to me?
[11:47] <czr> AWOSDev7360, that was the page that I found too, but doesn't really contain anything of use, does it?
[11:47] <AWOSDev7360> czr yeah um sorry
[11:48] <AWOSDev7360> czr https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/ia64
[11:48] <shatrat> Ha1: basically you just add a new line ot the text file /etc/fstab which has the name of the partition, /dev/hdb3 or whatever, the filesystem type, and the mount point, and possibly some options.  If you look at the other entries you can probably guess what you need if youre smart
[11:48] <AWOSDev7360> czr THAT'S the link I meant to give you
[11:48] <dtzjdtzj> does rhythmbox play mp3?how
[11:48] <AWOSDev7360> see czr?  cool huh?  :D
[11:48] <shatrat> !restrictedformats
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <Ha1> k, thatnks shatrat, off to the documentation I go
[11:48] <Ha1> thanks*
[11:48] <czr> AWOSDev7360, hmm. yes. but I wonder where to find the .iso:s :-)
[11:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: What is the name of the partition? e.g. /dev/hda1, or something like that
[11:48] <stork> any guides for using cron on a server?
[11:48] <AWOSDev7360> czr hmm...
[11:49] <AWOSDev7360> stork: man cron
[11:49] <Ha1> /dev/hdc3, EnsignRedShirt
[11:49] <Viglen> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:49] <Viglen> what do i do
[11:49] <lupine_85> !info kubuntu-desktop edgy
[11:49] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.22 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:50] <lupine_85> panic?
[11:50] <tim167> what's an open source equivalent to Dreamweaver ?
[11:50] <lupine_85> Nvu ?
[11:50] <pbureau> anyone print on a printer on a network (printer has its own IP address ) ? I am trying to get ubuntu to print to an HP2600 (tested as USB and it works, but I need to print over network.
[11:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: Once this disk is mounted, how do you want it to appear?  That is, what directory name do you want it to have? (For example, I have separate partition for all my ogg files, and I call it /music)
[11:50] <luciantu> hi
[11:50] <jrib> Viglen: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <lupine_85> Kate? ;)
[11:50] <shatrat> !equivalents|tim167
[11:50] <ubotu> tim167: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:50] <AWOSDev7360> czr would Feisty be okay?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ports/daily/current/edgy-server-ia64.iso
[11:50] <Ha1> I want it to be called linstore
[11:50] <Ha1> I want it to be called linstore, EnsignRedShirt
[11:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: In the root, as in /linstore ?
[11:51] <tim167> shatrat  thanks :)
[11:51] <czr> AWOSDev7360, edgy would be better :-)
[11:51] <AWOSDev7360> czr what about Dapper?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-ia64.iso
[11:51] <Ha1> EnsignRedShirt, do you suggest that?
[11:51] <high-bass> hi. i installed ubuntu and my network card doesnt seem to be working properly... it says its installed but its not assigning any ip to the card... i ran lspci and ifconfig and pasted the results here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2806/ ... can somone help me out pelase!
[11:51] <czr> AWOSDev7360, woot. dapper will do too. thanks man :-)
[11:51] <AWOSDev7360> czr there is no Ubuntu IA64 Edgy disc
[11:51] <AWOSDev7360> czr no problem :D
[11:52] <czr> I can try to apt-get to edgy
[11:52] <Plouj> what  package(s) do I need to install in order to be able to run and compile java code?
[11:52] <czr> although dapper will do just fine. maybe even better
[11:52] <jrib> !java | Plouj
[11:52] <ubotu> Plouj: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:52] <AWOSDev7360> czr yeah, because the other link I posted had all the packages
[11:52] <XVampireX> !openoffice
[11:52] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[11:52] <AWOSDev7360> czr but whatever :D
[11:52] <Viglen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2807/
[11:52] <linux_kid> Hello all, I was wondering how dual monitors work in dapper and how i might set them up
[11:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: It is up to you. One common convention is to put extra mounted disks under /mnt; people more opinionated than me might have stronger opinions about what it "should" be.
[11:52] <kazukisan> Anyone have the latest ATI drivers working in Ubuntu Edgy ?
[11:52] <czr> AWOSDev7360, the last two were exactly what I was looking for :-)
[11:52] <broedjj> does rhythmbox play mp3?how
[11:52] <jrib> Viglen: all of your repos except universe are disabled
[11:53] <anti_system32> pagina en espaol
[11:53] <anti_system32> sala
[11:53] <Ha1> EnsignRedShirt, I actually like the idea of /home/halhorn/linstore
[11:53] <Viglen> do i remove the #
[11:53] <AWOSDev7360> !es | anti_system32
[11:53] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:53] <Ha1> [My username is halhorn, that being my name and all] 
[11:53] <jrib> Viglen: well you don't even have them there
[11:53] <jrib> !easysource | Viglen
[11:53] <ubotu> Viglen: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:53] <Viglen> thanks:D
[11:54] <AWOSDev7360> EnsignRedshite, normally I put extra mounted disks in /media on Ubuntu.  otherwise /mnt or even sometimes /opt as I don't use /opt ever
[11:54] <AWOSDev7360> oops
[11:54] <shatrat> high-bass: the 8139 is a really common and well supported chipset I thought, not sure why you are having trouble.
[11:54] <AWOSDev7360> EnsignRedshirt, normally I put extra mounted disks in /media on Ubuntu.  otherwise /mnt or even sometimes /opt as I don't use /opt ever
[11:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: So, in the "linux lingo", you want the "mount point" to be /home/halhorn/linstore
[11:54] <high-bass> shatrat: thats what i thought too
[11:54] <shatrat> high-bass: I would double check the physical layer first.
[11:54] <Viglen> how do i know my ubuntu version/release?
[11:54] <jrib> !version | Viglen
[11:54] <ubotu> Viglen: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[11:55] <abo_> I just read that flash player 9 is ready for linux
[11:55] <AWOSDev7360> Viglen: cat /proc/version
[11:55] <high-bass> shatrat: ive testd the line and everything i have it currently hooked up to my windows box and its working perfectly fine
[11:55] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: You said that the filesystem on the disk is ext3, right?
[11:55] <Ha1> yes
[11:55] <abo_> can we get flash player 9 now on ubuntu?
[11:55] <Ha1> Thats affirmative, EnsignRedShirt, with regards to the Linux lingo comment
[11:55] <AWOSDev7360> abo_ yeah but it sucks.
[11:55] <abo_> AWOSDev7360, unstable? or what?
[11:55] <AWOSDev7360> Flash Player, not ubuntu
[11:55] <high-bass> shatrat: i was reading a forum about a possibility of outdated drivers... so went to realtek website and got the latest drivers from there... however im not sure how to install them.. the instructions are sorta vague...
[11:55] <chavo> abo_, you can get it but there's no official package
[11:56] <AWOSDev7360> abo_ yeah unstable.  personally I feel even 7 was unstable...kludgey, hacky, and it brought down Firefox more than once
[11:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: First, create the linstore directory with mkdir
[11:56] <high-bass> shatrat: there is a makefile and a 8139too.c c file... but when i try to compile it get multiple errors
[11:56] <eegore> Does anyone know how I can have a terminal launch on the right click on the desktop in KDE
[11:56] <abo_> AWOSDev7360, I admit it's much better running it on Konqueror then firefox...
[11:56] <AWOSDev7360> eegore, try #kubuntu
[11:56] <Ha1> Done. In my file manager/nautilus window it has a big padlock on it, too, EnsignRedShirt
[11:56] <shatrat> high-bass: what doe you get for lsmod | 8139too
[11:57] <AWOSDev7360> abo_ yeah I wanted it soooo badly to run on Konqueror...but I couldn't get it to work :-(
[11:57] <abo_> AWOSDev7360, I always fireup konqueror when there are plugins and flash
[11:57] <Ha1> Wait a sec
[11:57] <codeyman> package for manpages for C functions?
[11:57] <Smirnov> i'm having trouble.. i put smb mounts into /etc/fstab but they dont get mounted on reboot
[11:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: What has the padlock on it?
[11:57] <shatrat> high-bass: i mean lsmod | grep 8139too
[11:57] <abo_> AWOSDev7360, I'm gonna wait a couple of days for a package
[11:57] <high-bass> ok ill have to post it in a bin one se
[11:57] <high-bass> sec*
[11:57] <Ha1> The linstore folder, EnsignRedShirt. I typed sudo mkdir, not mkdir,, by mistake or instinct. Whats the opposite of mkdir?
[11:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: rmdir
[11:58] <shatrat> Smirnov: do they mount when you do mount -a?
[11:58] <abo_> is there an ActionScript developpement environment for linux?
[11:58] <AWOSDev7360> Ha1 rmdir :D
[11:58] <Viglen> okay, i updated my sources.list
[11:58] <Viglen> when i try kde
[11:58] <Viglen> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <Smirnov> shatrat, yes
[11:58] <Ha1> EnsignRedSHirt, I got it by a lucky guess
[11:58] <Viglen> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:58] <AWOSDev7360> abo_ ActionScript...sounds familiar...what's it for
[11:58] <MoxJet> Hello. I've made one of the dumbest mistakes ever, I was trying to remove xgl and it seems i removed my whole X, so I reinstalled it and now nothing works like before... I get some graphic environment and greatly disimproved performance. When I run startx I get several error message, the whole thing seems to be concerning /dev/wacom , there seems to be no such file or directory... Anyone has any idea how to fix this? I don't really want to do a full system rest
[11:58] <AWOSDev7360> abo_ I might be able to help if you can remind me what it's for
[11:58] <shatrat> Smirnov: then I am at a loss
[11:58] <jrib> Viglen: sudo apt-get update  and try again
[11:58] <Ha1> EnsignRedShirt, all created now.
[11:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: ...and people complain about linux command line being cryptic and unintuitive ;)
[11:58] <codeyman> does anyone remember the package for C library manpages
[11:58] <Ha1> lol
[11:58] <abo_> AWOSDev7360, actionscript is the language used to write flash
[11:59] <high-bass> shatrat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2810/
[11:59] <Smirnov> well then... am-utils or autofs?!
[11:59] <jrib> codeyman: manpages-dev
[11:59] <Ha1> Alrighty, EnsignRedShirt, all made, what next?
[11:59] <AWOSDev7360> MoxJet yeah /dev/wacom is screwy, try removing the stuff irt "tablet pen" or stuff like that in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <codeyman> jrib: thanks
[11:59] <sDKr> c
[11:59] <rellik> what's the story on rubyonrails support in ubuntu?
[12:00] <AWOSDev7360> rellik it *exists*
[12:00] <jojoman02> anyone got a dv1000 laptop that has gotten led working on ipw2200 intel card?
[12:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Ha1: To mount the disk for the current session, you can try this: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /home/halhorn/
[12:00] <AWOSDev7360> rellik: sudo apt-get install rails
[12:00] <jojoman02> !ipw2200
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <AWOSDev7360> rails - MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development
[12:00] <Viglen> how large is kde
[12:00] <kupesoft> I'm too shy to go to the Ubuntu/Linux Users Group tonight in my home town,
[12:00] <AWOSDev7360> Viglen ~200MB
[12:00] <Viglen> the download i mean
[12:00] <AWOSDev7360> maybe 250MB