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[07:54] for testing? [07:54] yeah [07:54] hm... === Jucato_ searches his logs... [07:55] stdin: based on my logs, it's deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kde-356-feisty/ feisty main [07:55] thanks Jucato_ [07:56] let's hope I don't regret this now :P [07:56] stdin: be sure to give input on bugs and stuff (there's a known bug with kopete) [07:56] :) [07:57] I will, that's the point of testing :) [07:57] well, that and the smugness of having the latest stuff :P [07:57] heh === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.20.121] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@69-167-76-29.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.22.76] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === praetor [n=praetor@203-217-3-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ is now known as Lure === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-82-222.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wave [10:49] s === rraphink is now known as raphink === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] Kwwii: you there? [11:00] MrWGW: yepp, but I have to leave for 5 min [11:00] brb [11:01] yes [11:02] tell me when you get back, we need to have a chat about Kubuntu's graphics [11:02] where "have" means "going out to watch some cars" [11:02] I downloaded Kubuntu and like it a lot in terms of what you've done [11:02] I was really amazed by how refined and awesome the graphical experience was, in fact [11:04] :) [11:04] never heard kwwii being called refined before :) [11:06] well, there you go === Tonio_ [n=tonio@243.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:09] re [11:09] hey Tonio_ [11:09] Riddell: go put on your dress and leave me along [11:09] haloha ! [11:09] alone [11:10] MrWGW: sure, love to talk about it [11:10] Riddell wears dresses? [11:10] O.O [11:10] back [11:11] so yeah, Kubuntu is quite nice === Riddell has never worn a dress in his life [11:11] I'm wondering what you'd like me to look into working on in terms of it [11:11] yeah, I don't do the cross dressing thing myself either [11:11] well, I think that for feisty we want to push the look even further [11:11] I'm a suit-and-tie man [11:11] Riddell: haha, I did :) [11:11] Riddell: right, right, *I* believe you [11:11] Riddell: you should. it's an experience :P and heels [11:11] I'm probably the only guy you'll ever meet doing UI design for FOSS who owns a tie clasp collection and who tries to use one everyday [11:11] at my best friend's 20 years birthday [11:12] MrWGW: lol [11:12] Tonio_: ookay? [11:12] O.o === Hobbsee is a jeans and tshirt girl. [11:12] we went to a concert and I shaved my legs and dressed as a wooman [11:12] O.O [11:12] everyone thought I was a girl, that was pretty cool ;) [11:12] that's....weird? [11:12] Tonio_: yeah, but *you're* french, we expect that [11:12] haha [11:12] kwwii: ;) [11:12] lol [11:13] let me find a photo [11:13] woo [11:13] if I still got one.... [11:13] I had long hair at that moment, that helped too :) [11:13] MrWGW: so basically we want to keep the basic feel, but push that even further [11:13] if not, you have to dress up as a girl, and shave your legs, etc, again, just to show us... [11:13] you know one really scarry thought would be rms in drag :-P [11:13] outstanding [11:13] one thing that we really should take care of is the konqueror and help designs [11:13] Hobbsee: bah I'm not that thin today [11:13] awwww [11:14] I have bard etc.... :) [11:14] how about RMS in drag as the default desktop? That would be really pushing the edge [11:14] :-P [11:14] we tried to change the konqueror/help stuff for edgy by simply using the existing design and changing the blue to purple but that did not turn out very well [11:14] as long as i'm not wanted to model :P [11:15] kwwii: will feisty still be purple? [11:15] we really need to make new pics, not just rotate the colors of the existing ones [11:15] Jucato: yeah, I think so [11:15] Jucato: PINK!!!! [11:15] is there any plan to use the Ubuntu human color scheme in Kubuntu? [11:15] Hobbsee: at that moment I was 70 kg for 1.84m [11:15] Hobbsee: kool! :) [11:15] MrWGW: nope [11:15] today I am 82 :) hard to reproduce :) [11:15] ok [11:15] MrWGW: please no... [11:15] Tonio_: heh. scary [11:15] I take it you guys have an aversion to brown ;) [11:15] Hobbsee: life going on........ === Tonio_ finishes to patch klibido, then works on kcm again [11:16] MrWGW: just the human colour scheme is rather ugly, yes. [11:16] MrWGW: well, there has always been a difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, it starts at the logo and goes from there [11:16] ok [11:16] not a problem [11:16] but using purple was something new, a way to move away from a simple blue design [11:16] everyone and their brother uses blue [11:16] kwwii: I thought it started with the name? :D [11:16] Blue is the most overused color in GUI [11:17] Jucato: well, graphically, I mean [11:17] I'm working on recoloring PC BSD to red and grey [11:17] hehe :) [11:17] Red is the perfect color for a BSD OS [11:17] red... [11:17] MrWGW: yeah, I can see that [11:17] MrWGW: have you seen Edubuntu? [11:17] and speaking of whihc, kwwii, what's involved in creating a custom set of window decorations? [11:17] no [11:17] MrWGW: it red too [11:17] and also, what would be involved in replacing the buttons with Crystal? [11:17] ahh interesting [11:17] s/it/it's [11:17] I might download it for the sheer heck of it [11:17] kwwii: try pink :P [11:18] MrWGW: nah, just look at screenshots in osdir.com :) [11:18] actually, i saw edubuntu - very pretty, despite that it's gnome [11:18] you know what else would be good, Fubuntu using Fluxbox :-P [11:18] Hobbsee: yeah! pink and green ponies [11:18] that one could be lime [11:18] kwwii: YES!!! [11:18] kwwii: at least as temp artwrok :) [11:18] eh, I like to download an OS to get a real feel for the UI [11:18] we'll make Hubuntu just for you [11:18] kwwii: Hubuntu? [11:18] Hobbunto [11:18] ah [11:18] Hobbuntu* [11:18] I'd like to see WGWUbuntu: Ubuntu but with my own upcoming mod for GNOME ;-P [11:19] because I'm really sick to death of GNOME's broken UI... [11:19] hehe [11:19] Hobbsee: didn't want to say "ho-buntu" cause I don't think you be a ho :p [11:19] MrWGW: btw, the windeco used for Kubuntu is a customized Crystal, with customized "Kubuntu" buttons (the ones in Dapper and Edgy are very different) [11:19] kwwii: heh === Hobbsee hopes not === \sh is now known as \sh_away [11:20] right [11:20] how hard is it to customize those buttons? [11:20] Jucato: the buttons/windec in feisty is the same as edgy [11:20] because I'm thinking I want to do that in PC-BSD [11:20] MrWGW: not hard [11:20] kwwii: ah so no more changes? [11:20] it is pixmap bsed [11:20] replace the "Vista" rip off buttons with a PC BSD btton [11:20] Jucato: probably just improvements [11:20] because other than the buttons, the Crystal theme is perfect for what I'm trying to do [11:20] well, almost [11:21] yeah, it is very flexible and looks pretty good [11:21] how hard is it to make a window decorations theme, though? I heard they had to be hard coded in c++ [11:21] yeah, the engine itself is coded [11:21] they are [11:21] so are styles [11:21] my only gripe with crystal is that the edges are the same color as the title bar [11:21] which makes me amazed at the amount of styles and windecos in kde-look... [11:21] (it's not that hard to code after all, lol!) [11:22] someone needs to code a GUI-based window decoration creator [11:22] so you can just copy and paste .svgs and then blammo [11:22] that will be hard [11:22] is it as hard, btw, to create Metacity window decorations? [11:23] afaik, Metacity is a pixmap-based window decoration. the KDE equivalent would be deKorator and IceWM [11:23] interesting [11:24] er.. s/Metacity is/Metacity uses/ [11:24] I need to get involved in a GNOME project also, but right now, my first priority is PC-BSD and no. 2 is Kubuntu [11:24] for various reasons === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] btw, can KDE icons be .svgs? [11:31] and also, can they support alpha channels or index transparency? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-051.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wgw [n=pcbsd@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.231.60] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-158-122.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === icefox [i=ben@nat/trolltech/x-1b4652defd354b74] has joined #kubuntu-devel === icefox [i=ben@nat/trolltech/x-1b4652defd354b74] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-90-16.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wgw [n=pcbsd@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] good afternoon [01:04] hey mhb! === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] YEEEEEEEEEEES it works :) [01:28] Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/48 [01:28] I wrote that myself hehe :) [01:29] I start understanding how c++ code works :) === Tonio_ is proud although the code may be crappy ;) [01:29] okay klibido can now be integrated to .nzb extension, cool ! === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] Riddell: I noticed adept seems to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock now.... [01:42] Riddell: I'll ping manchicken about that, maybe that's due to one of his patches... === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell gets interweb back [01:55] Riddell: what's interweb ? === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] Tonio_: it's this global international webby thing [01:57] well, back online, how nice [01:58] Riddell: hum, I still don't understand, but that's not a problem :) [01:58] you two are at UDsprint, right? [01:58] FeistySprint, yes [01:59] Riddell: no news concerning kde release ? [01:59] no, but it'll be early next week I guess [01:59] probably kdevelop separate release too [02:00] Riddell: the baloon bug is fixed :) [02:00] http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdelibs/kdeui/qxembed.cpp?rev=626568&r1=626568&view=log [02:00] latest commit [02:00] that's a good news [02:01] so the bug was in kdelibs? [02:02] looks like yes... === Jucato does svn up [02:02] he says the bug was in kopete [02:02] the packages on kubuntu.org have the fix now [02:03] Riddell: bah the 2 commits are to kdeui afaicr [02:04] that's what the bug says at least.... [02:05] yes, but he still claims its a kopete bug :) [02:05] don't ask me [02:05] Riddell: oki ;) [02:05] Riddell: well it's fixed so kde might be released soon, that's cool [02:05] :) [02:05] since I have a hudge bunch of improvements to test ;) === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.22.76] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@243.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] Riddell: are you going to resync kdelibs with svn ? [02:34] Riddell: x-nzb mimetype has been hadded 6 days ago and is usefull for what I'm just doing on klibido [02:34] Riddell: in case no I might add it via a patch [02:35] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/mimetypes/application/x-nzb.desktop?rev=625182&view=log [02:35] it is globally usefull for usenet I must say ; [02:35] ;) [02:35] Tonio_: able to send me the patch? [02:35] seems 3.5.6 might be being released sooner than I thought [02:35] Riddell: sure [02:36] Riddell: so no svn sync ? :) will send you the patch, okay gimme a minute === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.231.60] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] Riddell: here is the patch : http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/49 [02:44] thanks Tonio_ [02:45] Riddell: your servant :) [02:45] Tonio_: where are those pics? [02:45] Hobbsee: which pics ? [02:45] Tonio_: the ones of you in a dress [02:46] does thedailywtf.com crash Konqueror for anyone else? [02:46] Hobbsee: I don't understand, there is no pic, that's a mimetype [02:46] praetor: not here, at least the front page works [02:47] Tonio_: from the previous discussion, ~3 hours ago [02:47] Hobbsee: remind me the discussion please :) [02:47] [21:12] we went to a concert and I shaved my legs and dressed as a wooman [02:48] Hobbsee: bah no image on my desktop :) that real photo in a box, sorry ;) [02:48] Tonio_ is slowly wierding out [02:48] :p [02:48] btw, Riddell/Hobbsee/Tonio_: give me some code to write? :P [02:48] Tonio_: meet scanner. scanner meet Tonio_ [02:48] praetor: fix everything, kthnksbye! [02:48] kk [02:48] :-) [02:48] Hobbsee: let me search a bit [02:48] Tonio_: :) [02:48] where can that be.... [02:49] Hobbsee: it was 10 years ago you know.... [02:49] Tonio_: hehe, yes :) hope your filing system's good [02:49] hi praetor === \sh_away is now known as \sh [02:50] hi Riddell, how is the adept stuff coming along? [02:51] i had a look at i believe I saw that you ported the updater to Qt? [02:51] well, I'm working on it [02:51] it even seems to be successfully updating [02:51] yay :) [02:52] praetor: WRT adept, the XAUTHORITY stuff is the most important just now [02:52] but it's fiddly as anything [02:52] basicly work out why XAUTHORITY isn't working in adept (it'll be a kdesu problem, not adept's problem) === Hobbsee --> bed [02:53] Hobbsee: I just don't find it.... so many photos here ; [02:53] awwww [02:54] Hobbsee: I promiss to put it here if I find it [02:54] yay :) === Hobbsee thinks that coudl be amusing [02:54] Hobbsee: I'll ask to my friend, he certainly has them [02:54] fabo: ping ? [02:54] fabo: I did a few changes to klibido, so as you are the debian maintainer you might be interested [02:55] Tonio_: multiple people should have access to that... [02:55] myself included [02:55] (in debian) === LongPointyStick really beds [02:56] LongPointyStick: that's the point, he will probably merge the changes in debian [03:04] <\sh> patching kdenetworks kppp to support umts cards with nozomi driver devices [03:04] \sh: hang on, I have 3.5.6 to upload [03:05] \sh: send me the debdiff if you get whatever you're doing done today [03:05] <\sh> Riddell, nozomi drivers are not officially in our kernel...I just pointed benc to the driver page...but kppp doesn't list /dev/noz[0-9] devices [03:06] <\sh> Riddell, I'll send you the patch to kdenetwork-3.5.x/kppp/devices.h [03:07] <\sh> and I have to check how to create a template for german vodafone umts network services [03:07] kdesu does not have its own package? [03:07] <\sh> it's in kdebase, isn't it? [03:07] praetor: it's split between kdelibs and kdebase [03:08] making it extra complex [03:08] and kdesu_stub is C not C++ [03:08] which always scares me === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.230.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === \sh is now known as \sh_away === bddebian [n=BdeFrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] Heya === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh [n=nnnnnnnn@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] boo [03:45] <\sh> hey nixternal :) [03:45] hiya \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === manchicken [n=manchick@12.47.30.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:36] any objections to me uploading 3.5.6? [04:37] not here [04:37] to edgy or feisty? === gnomefreak never did get a chance to test it on edgy :( [04:39] feisty [04:39] but I should make the webpage for edgy too === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:44] it seems very stable on feisty i havent had any issues with kde itself my issues stem for the dockers and not being able to find a clock applet that can sit on desktop since the docker im using cant add a clock but i think i need to speak to imbrandon about the dockers === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:47] Riddell, KDE 3.5.6 library-wise remains binary-compatible with previous 3.5.x releases, right? [04:48] jdong: of course [04:48] lovely :) [04:48] Riddell, is there a preliminary release notes / changelog for 3.5.6 yet? === jdong is wondering if some of his favorite 3.5.x bugs were solved yet [04:49] jdong: It'll be released within the hour [04:49] sebas, cool === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:03] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php: "Kubuntu 6.10 LTS (Dapper)" Must be "Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy)" === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:05] cool! Edgy is LTS! [05:05] Riddell: ^^ [05:08] jdong: It's out, see www.kde.org [05:08] yay! :) [05:08] jdong: ? [05:09] Riddell: look at the announcement [05:09] Kubuntu 6.10 LTS (Dapper) [05:10] fixed === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] ok :) [05:11] wb kwwii [05:12] lol [05:12] howdy [05:12] jdong: == ball buster [05:12] 2 hours to render a pic with inkscape, someone tell me that is right [05:12] ew [05:12] depends on how detailed maybe? [05:13] well, x264 non-PIC took 30min to compile, so with PIC... oh wait wrong subject [05:13] nope, its because it uses guassian blur on two objects [05:14] I told you in berlin already that powerpcs are slow, kwwii ;-) [05:14] sebas: this is my new core duo thinkpad x60s [05:14] :p [05:15] the fastest machine I have [05:15] and also the smallest [05:15] Well, then something's wrong with freaking inkscape. [05:15] Thinkpads can't be wrong [05:15] yepp [05:17] at least I am not bitching about kde for a change :p === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-200-61.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:24] jdong: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php [05:24] Lure: yep, got it === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Newness! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Please test KDE 3.5.6 on feisty === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Fri Jan 19 08:18:37 2007 === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-215-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:23] sebas: ping ? [06:25] Tonio_: pong [06:25] sebas: I did a little patch for systemsettings in order to manage universe kcm files correctly [06:25] it adds more categories for patchinf the kcm desktop files [06:26] sebas: can I submit you the patch for svn commit ? === sebas has nothing to do with systemsettings, only with the guidance modules. [06:26] So, sure, check in whatever you want ;-) [06:27] sebas: ah.... I'll ping luka then, don't waste time with me :) [06:27] sime is the one to ask for systemsettings I think [06:27] Or maybe lure [06:27] luka also commits on it I think === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.140.212] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Daskreech2 [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] Whats the libmeanwhile1 library for? === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:02] Description: open implementation of the Lotus Sametime Community Client protocol This library provides the basic Lotus Sametime Community Client session functionality along with the core services; Presence, Messaging, and Conferencing. [07:02] According to apt-cache show libmeanwhile1 [07:02] Yeah I read that. I guess my question is why does Kopete require it? [07:03] There is a lotus plugin now? [07:03] Dunno [07:04] Riddell: I'm reported there is an issue with kde 3.5.6 packages and edgy [07:05] conflict between kde-i18n-fr and koffice-i18n-fr [07:05] conflict about that file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/kdgantt.mo [07:06] did they merge koffice i18n in kde for 3.5.6 ? [07:07] sebas: Yep it's a Lotus protoco [07:07] I guess the flag was just left on [07:07] KOffice is not even part of KDE 3.5.6, it has its own release cycles === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:08] hej \sh [07:09] <\sh> hey sebas :) how you doing? :) [07:11] \sh: busybusybusy ... good! [07:12] <\sh> sebas: trying to come to fosdem next month...depending how my GF is feeling :) [07:13] sebas: GF as GeForce? [07:13] If she feels good enough for you to go, we'll have beer together :-) [07:13] Whops, \sh === sebas slaps Tm_T :D [07:13] What?! [07:14] Tm_T: ya feeling the G-forces from sebas yet? :D [07:14] My Geforce is hot! [07:14] It is! [07:14] <\sh> sebas: sure we will :) and a good cigar...GF is pregnant and I'm totally crazy now ;) [07:14] hope it's not demoted to legacy drivers? :D [07:15] Actually mine's too, dunno why it keep getting even over 120?C [07:15] \sh: Nice. :) === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:16] <\sh> Tm_T: yepp :) [07:17] I'm tempted to start talking about babies but I think it's better not. [07:18] Just have too much to say about them. ;) [07:18] aww come on, nobody's come up with an SLI joke yet? [07:19] jdong: Superbly Limited Imbesil? [07:20] imbecile? [07:20] No, that's me. === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-158-122.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:24] \sh: Ooow, I hope it's your fault :> [07:24] No, it was me. === Tm_T hides [07:25] I don't consider myself as selfdestructive at all. [07:31] <\sh> sebas: yeah, my lucky shot :) === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech2 [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-90-16.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-82-222.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fabo [i=Arme-X@ubuntu/member/fabo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:48] Hehehe [07:48] Fun === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:51] How do I kick another Nick? [07:51] /msg nickserv ghost nick pw? [07:51] something like that [07:52] >_< === Daskreech2 is now known as daskreech [07:52] Sweet :) [07:53] I used to know that as /ghost [07:53] Wonder if I can make an alias in Konversation [07:54] :-) [07:54] Nice [07:54] <\sh> ok..time to go to my hotel..and have a rest [07:57] Sleep well \sh [07:58] <\sh> sebas: thx :) you too :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [08:01] 30% to 3.5.6 :-) === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] sebas: nice conslusion on irc in kdenetwork discussion === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii__ [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:28] evening [08:31] good evening toma [08:38] Lure: Thanks === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@217.50.17.171] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.140.212] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93211ab.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:04] 80% :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121dvu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:30] Riddell: will you upload 3.5.6 to feisty? [09:33] I think he did already [09:33] at least so it said on the announcement === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F017E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === devilsadvocate [n=devilsad@203.200.95.183] has joined #kubuntu-devel === devilsadvocate [n=devilsad@203.200.95.183] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] Lure: ping ? [10:11] Tonio_: hi [10:11] Lure: fine ? === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:11] Tonio_: great, and you? [10:11] very nice :) [10:11] Lure: I just improved kss a bit [10:12] can you revu my patch and sync with svn ? [10:12] Tonio_: yep === Lure is just working one one sync request [10:12] Lure: okay, to make it simple the patch creates more subsections categories, in order to manage universe apps kcm correctly [10:13] Tonio_: in Standard or in Advanced? [10:13] http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/50 [10:13] both [10:13] you have a screenshot? [10:13] but I didn't touch advanced [10:13] Lure: no graphical change [10:13] Lure: I just create more categories [10:14] so that when you install a universe application that has a kcm module, I can patch it to go to the right section [10:14] Tonio_: nice - is there any app I can test it with? [10:14] for example ksynaptics has to go to keyboard and mouse [10:14] Lure: yes, put the patch and for example install kmldonkey [10:15] should go to network/shares section [10:15] Lure: I tested widelly, that works [10:15] Tonio_: ok will check this [10:15] Lure: you also can with that patch install ksynaptics [10:15] my concern is only advanced/standard [10:15] should be with keyboard and mouse [10:15] Lure: no change on that point [10:15] Tonio_: some stuff would be better in Advanced, otherwise Universe can clutter Standard view [10:16] you mean ? [10:16] Lure: that's the idea [10:16] I don't want to add everything to the standard view [10:16] but in subsections [10:16] that's why I did that patch [10:17] I didn't want to put ksynaptics in "computer administration" but in the keyboard and mouse category [10:17] that's the idea [10:17] just gives more possibilities in fact, but no change on rationnale [10:18] Tonio_: I understand that, however we need to think how widely we apply categories from standard [10:18]