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| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by cypher1 at Mon Jan 1 12:52:54 2007 | ||
| geser | bddebian: I've left a comment on libticables2 for you :) | 05:34 |
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| bddebian | geser: You're deliberately trying to push me over the edge now arent you? :-) | 05:36 |
| azeem | bddebian: beware, Drepper is lurking beyond the edge | 05:36 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:37 |
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| bddebian | Again, does anyone know what has happened to gnome-vfs-mime.h?? | 05:40 |
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| slomo | jdong: ping? | 05:48 |
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| AnAnt_ | I got a problem with pbuilder, I have set COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" in /etc/pbuilderrc | 05:49 |
| AnAnt_ | yet, when I run pbuilder it cannot find packages that are in universe ! | 05:49 |
| AnAnt_ | I am using edgy | 05:49 |
| asantoni | only 2 more chunks to go! | 05:50 |
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| asantoni | man, we brought this on ourselves | 06:14 |
| asantoni | Mixxx's build system uses qmake, and we basically manage to have a single tarball that compiles across all three OSes (Win, Linux, OS X) | 06:14 |
| asantoni | but boy this is really making it tricky to package properly, lol | 06:14 |
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| palski | what is wrong with nedit package? lp says that edgy has 5.5-2 but when I install nedit I get 5.5-1 | 06:15 |
| palski | and same goes with feisty | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | palski, then -2 probably hasnet built successfully for the arch your on ( if any ) | 06:16 |
| palski | imbrandon: yes, that's it | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | infact loooking thats it | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | imbrandon@aurora:~$ sudo apt-cache madison nedit nedit | 1:5.5-1ubuntu1 | http://mirror.imbrandon.com edgy/universe Packages nedit | 1:5.5-2ubuntu1 | http://mirror.imbrandon.com edgy/universe Sources | 06:16 |
| Toadstool | heya everybody | 06:19 |
| jdong | slomo: pong | 06:22 |
| slomo | jdong: you pinged me hours ago :) | 06:22 |
| jdong | sladen: was gonna ask if you knew how to fix ffmpeg --enable-x264 FTBFS on AMD64.... | 06:22 |
| jdong | err, slomo | 06:23 |
| jdong | it needs to link against PIC x264 | 06:23 |
| jdong | but instead goes for libx264.a | 06:23 |
| jdong | (not libx264_pic.a) | 06:23 |
| slomo | then fix the build system :) | 06:23 |
| jdong | slomo: what do you mean? | 06:23 |
| slomo | but i wonder how it can build against x264 anyway? isn't x264 in multiverse and ffmpeg in universe? | 06:23 |
| jdong | slomo: this is for medibuntu | 06:23 |
| jdong | (the "new" PLF) | 06:23 |
| slomo | tell ffmpeg's build system to link to libx264_pic.a instead of the one without _pic | 06:24 |
| jdong | slomo: excuse my noobishness with this linking stuff... roughly how would I do that? | 06:24 |
| slomo | look where the -lx264 is set and make it -lx264_pic | 06:24 |
| jdong | ah, ok | 06:24 |
| jdong | slomo: and I presume linking against the PIC version on non-amd64 is a no-no? | 06:24 |
| slomo | no that's fine iirc | 06:25 |
| jdong | oh | 06:25 |
| jdong | so if I make that for all arches, there's no side effects? | 06:25 |
| slomo | iirc not but it's long ago since i read about this stuff :) | 06:25 |
| slomo | ask google or something if you're unsure ;) | 06:25 |
| jdong | "The extra indirection may cause PIC code to be less efficient, although modern processors are designed to ameliorate this." | 06:27 |
| jdong | lovely | 06:27 |
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| simon__ | hi | 06:35 |
| simon__ | package mednafen is outdated compared to the version in debian | 06:35 |
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| simon__ | by around 5 months | 06:36 |
| johang | you can request a sync | 06:39 |
| johang | i just did it with a different package | 06:39 |
| johang | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 06:39 |
| johang | check under sync. | 06:39 |
| asantoni | Ok, I've got Mixxx ready for packaging I think | 06:41 |
| asantoni | I've got a mixxx-1.5.0 directory with a "debian" subdirectory and everything set up/patched properly | 06:42 |
| asantoni | Do I need to install pbuilder now to test this? | 06:42 |
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| bddebian | geser: New libticables2 up ;-) | 06:42 |
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| jdong | mr_pouit: ping | 06:44 |
| mr_pouit | jdong, pong | 06:45 |
| jdong | mr_pouit: I attached a debdiff against feisty for ffmpeg in bug 81518 | 06:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81518 in ffmpeg "When x264 is enabled, link against libx264_pic.a" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81518 | 06:45 |
| jdong | mr_pouit: it contains a patch that should resolve FTBFS on amd64 with x264 | 06:46 |
| jdong | mr_pouit: would appreciate it if you guys can test it, then get it into universe would be a bonus too :) | 06:46 |
| mr_pouit | jdong, great! thanks ;) | 06:46 |
| mr_pouit | jdong, ok, we'll test it ^^ | 06:47 |
| jdong | thanks, you guys are awesome | 06:47 |
| simon__ | johang, if you don't mind could you add it for me? | 06:48 |
| geser | bddebian: looks ok for me. advocated. | 06:51 |
| bddebian | Thx geser | 06:51 |
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| tmarble | quick question: how can I get dkpg-buildpackage to use gpg-agent? | 07:48 |
| jdong | you don't. | 07:50 |
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| jdong | you debsign afterwards | 07:50 |
| jdong | dpkg-buildpackage runs under fakeroot | 07:50 |
| jdong | which gpg-agent will not accept as an authorized user | 07:50 |
| tmarble | ah, that's why it didn't work (of course) | 07:50 |
| jdong | totally silly in my mind :) | 07:50 |
| tmarble | jdong, thanks | 07:51 |
| jdong | np | 07:51 |
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| ademan | heh, how do i reply to something in the mailing list? Or do i just need to make sure the subject line is RE: the last post in the thread ? | 07:55 |
| \sh | press "reply" in your mailclient | 07:55 |
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| ademan | heh, really? cause then it has the last author as the recipient rather than ubuntu.motu.mailinglist or whatever, but that's how it should be? | 07:57 |
| jdong | then reply to all | 07:57 |
| jdong | or reply to list, if your client has such a feature | 07:57 |
| ademan | evolution, dunno if it does... | 07:57 |
| \sh | ademan: well, you have to configure your email client the correct way...or press reply all, and remove the last author...because it's annoying to read mails two times | 07:58 |
| \sh | use a real client, thunderbird or kmail | 07:58 |
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| ademan | lol | 07:58 |
| ademan | so really the requirement is to: ubuntu.motu.mailinglists.com and the subject should be Re: Last Post's Subject Line ? | 07:59 |
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| geser | ademan: the threading happens from the In-Reply-To: header (usually set automatically by your mua) | 08:01 |
| ademan | ah, ok, maybe i've got that kind of functionality | 08:02 |
| ademan | thanks | 08:02 |
| asantoni | jdong: Thanks again for the help, I think I've got a .deb built properly now :) | 08:04 |
| jdong | cool | 08:04 |
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| Amaranth | check this out: http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8de.png | 08:20 |
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| LaserJock | mwuahahaha | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | anybody alive in here? | 08:37 |
| lifeless | no | 08:37 |
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| LaserJock | fine | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | be that way then | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 08:37 |
| somerville32 | no | 08:37 |
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| LaserJock | I just talked with the director of instuments for my department | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | he's interested in putting Ubuntu on the computers that run our research instruments | 08:38 |
| somerville32 | Use Xubuntu and poke Canonical for Official Support. ;] | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | that's up to Canonical, and we probably wouldn't use Xubuntu | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | it might be Edubuntu actually | 08:39 |
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| LaserJock | right now they have a couple RHEL machines | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | and some Windows/OS X I think | 08:40 |
| somerville32 | But Xubuntu is awesome. Have you tried it on Feisty? | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure it is awesome, as is Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | I'm not a big XFCE fan | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | but the screenshots are looking nice | 08:41 |
| somerville32 | Xfce4, not XFCE : P | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | whatever ;-) | 08:43 |
| somerville32 | What does Xubuntu have that gnome doesn't? : P | 08:43 |
| somerville32 | Or... the other way around : P | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | lots | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | both ways | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | they are just different | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I generally use Gnome ( "It sucks less" ) but if I need to go minimal I use openbox | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | Xfce4 is sort of like middle-of-the-road for me | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | and I haven't found a need for it personally | 08:47 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: That sounds really great. | 08:49 |
| LaserJock | I've been trying to think of how to get Ubuntu into the department | 08:49 |
| LaserJock | I know one group uses it a fair amount for computation chemistry stuff | 08:49 |
| === ScottK was suprised to walk in to the local public library recently and find all the computers running Ubuntu. | ||
| LaserJock | I think I'm the only one that ever uses it for a desktop (although I'm not presently :/) | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | really? sweet! | 08:50 |
| ScottK | It was actually my first time using Ubuntu on the desktop as I've always used KDE. | 08:50 |
| ScottK | If you are trying to get people interested in transitioninf off of Windows, Kubuntu will look less foreign... | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | I suppose | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | I generally don't see the "KDE is more Windows looking" but whatever :-) | 08:52 |
| ScottK | Of course, if you push it, you'll end up supporting it, so best something you are familiar with. | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | well, I install Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Ubuntu fairly regularly | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | and sometimes I'll even have Xfce for a few minutes ;-) | 08:54 |
| ScottK | I'm not religious about desktop choices myself, just happen to like one better for my own use. | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | same with me | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | I used KDE for a long time (and FVWM) | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | but Ubuntu has gotten me more into Gnome | 08:54 |
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| LaserJock | I generally try to stay familiar with both | 08:55 |
| === ScottK had fun the other day in a meeting with his Kubuntu laptop poking at a presenter who had trouble with Windows/Office being sluggish for using "Inferior prioprietary tools". | ||
| LaserJock | hehe | 08:58 |
| ScottK | I think it even started to penetrate after a while that I wasn't kidding. | 08:59 |
| ScottK | If you can find a way to just use Ubuntu and have it work better/more reliably/cheaper, whatever is important there, people will notice and want some too. | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I love it when they laugh, and then they're like "Your serious" | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | either that or use your power and force it on them ;-) | 09:00 |
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| ScottK | If you have that, that works too. | 09:00 |
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| ScottK | IME though in large organizations (where large is probably more than about 10) orders to do things people don't want to do have a way of not being gotten around to. | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | worked for my wife :-) | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | I just edited grub to default to Ubuntu instead of XP | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | once Flash9 came out for Linux it was bye-bye Windows | 09:02 |
| ScottK | It's a slower start to attract people with honey than beat them with baseball bats (or whatever kind of bats you have) - less fun too, but more sustainable. | 09:02 |
| ScottK | Yeah. Worked on my kids too. | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | yah know, I've always thought the "Firefox by default because it's something Windows people know" was kinda weird | 09:03 |
| === ScottK needs to find time to convert some effing huge Outlook archives to Mbox before my wife will convert (she dual boot some now). | ||
| LaserJock | until one day I saw my wife surfing the net and she had no clue if she was running Windows or Ubuntu | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | simply because it was FF | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | she couldn't have cared less | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | what OS it was | 09:04 |
| ScottK | With the kids I first got them using FF, T-bird, and OO on Windows and then swapped them to Linux and they hardly noticed. | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 09:04 |
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| ScottK | Of course then when I was in a meeting that happened to have a senior MS guy in it a few months ago and the conversation turned to spam, virii, bots, etc. I could say, "Yes, that's why I don't allow my kids to use Windows". The look on his face was priceless. | 09:05 |
| ScottK | He asked me a lot of questions after that too. It was fun. | 09:06 |
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| LaserJock | ScottK: hilarious | 09:08 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 09:29 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 09:29 |
| ajmitch | sigh | 09:31 |
| ajmitch | people that deliberately cc offtopic stuff to devel lists | 09:31 |
| jdong | like bad computer jokes? | 09:32 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Just to piss you off :) | 09:34 |
| ajmitch | just like #u-motu | 09:34 |
| === ajmitch knows it's a conspiracy | ||
| Adri2000 | Seveas: feisty-changes rss feed seems broken | 09:35 |
| Seveas | Adri2000, it's not | 09:36 |
| Seveas | it's just on manual | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | hey Seveas | 09:36 |
| Seveas | ola ajmitch | 09:36 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Wanna help my dumb arse with some packaging? | 09:37 |
| Seveas | Adri2000, I'm improving the USN parser so the whole email parsing shebang was on manual | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: depends if it'll take some time or not | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | I just got to work & all | 09:37 |
| Adri2000 | Seveas: USN? UWN? | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | checking the fallout | 09:38 |
| bddebian | Oh, yeah it might take a while, mn | 09:38 |
| bddebian | Err nm even | 09:38 |
| Seveas | Adri2000, Ubuntu Security Notices | 09:38 |
| Seveas | I have an email2rss parser for that as well | 09:38 |
| Adri2000 | ah, I thought weekly newsletter | 09:38 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 09:38 |
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| Seveas | heh | 09:39 |
| Seveas | keescook, yes, I'm working on including details :) | 09:39 |
| keescook | \o/ | 09:39 |
| Seveas | but also improving the thing in general | 09:39 |
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| bddebian | Ugh, do I wanna touch fai-kernels? | 09:39 |
| Seveas | bddebian, with a 10-foot pole? | 09:39 |
| bddebian | Maybe 20 foot | 09:40 |
| Seveas | yeah, that's safer | 09:40 |
| Seveas | ask hobbsee for her big pointy stick of doom | 09:40 |
| ajmitch | keescook! how's the hacking week going? | 09:41 |
| keescook | ajmitch: hiya, I'm actually not there. :) | 09:41 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Do you happen to know why gnome-vfs-mime.h is gone? | 09:45 |
| DogWater | does anyone know who maintains the redhat kickstart style installation stuff? | 09:45 |
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| ajmitch | keescook: oh, that's unfortunate | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: ENOCLUE | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I'm guessing it had to run away | 09:47 |
| DogWater | also anyone know who maintains the netboot portion of the installer? | 09:47 |
| bddebian | Gah, I hate crap that we've brought in that is now in Debian.. :-( | 09:47 |
| bddebian | DogWater: My guess would be that the installer stuff is done by the main folks. | 09:47 |
| DogWater | the netboot installer is broken in 6.10 | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | didn't you ask this in about 2 or 3 other channels & get an answer? | 09:48 |
| DogWater | no, there was no answer | 09:48 |
| ajmitch | 09:00 < dsas> DogWater: I'm not sure who's responsible for updating that, perhaps cjwatson | 09:48 |
| DogWater | so i pester cjwatson about it? | 09:49 |
| bddebian | Gah fruck, -GLw.. | 09:49 |
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| ajmitch | he's a tad busy this week, I think | 09:50 |
| DogWater | well, i was just trying to figure out if there is anything we can do to help to get the kickstart process a little more polished | 09:50 |
| DogWater | as we do all of our builds exclusively with kickstart and we'd like to start offering ubuntu | 09:50 |
| ajmitch | there's a distro team sprint on at the moment, which I think he's attending | 09:51 |
| === ajmitch reassigns bug to d-i | ||
| ajmitch | hopefully that's the right one, and he'd hopefully see it then | 09:51 |
| keescook | does anyone know if the buildds have /usr/bin/lsb_release ? | 09:51 |
| ajmitch | I doubt it | 09:52 |
| keescook | I can't tell, but it seems to be a dep of base-files ? | 09:52 |
| ajmitch | nope | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | Replaces: base, miscutils, lsb-release (<< 3.0-8) | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | Provides: base | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1ubuntu3), awk, base-passwd (>= 2.0.3.4), libpam-modules (>= 0.79-3ubuntu3) | 09:53 |
| keescook | hmmm | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu-standard depends on it, I think | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | but I don't think that's on the buildds | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | I think it's just build-essential on there, but I can't be certain | 09:54 |
| === keescook nods | ||
| keescook | I wonder how it snuck into my chroots... | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | morning ajmitch | 09:55 |
| bddebian | So since we don't have libGLw, I need to disable mesa entirely? | 09:56 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: try libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev | 10:00 |
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| LaserJock | ajmitch: you got OT in -motu?!? :-) | 10:08 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: hm? | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch> people that deliberately cc offtopic stuff to devel lists | 10:11 |
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| ajmitch | people are never offtopic in here | 10:12 |
| === LaserJock looks around | ||
| LaserJock | I don't know what channel you've been lurking in | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | but it hasn't been here ;-) | 10:15 |
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| poningru | I wanna bother someone re: getting alpine into universe | 10:16 |
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| LaserJock | poningru: why do you need to bug someone about it? | 10:18 |
| poningru | LaserJock: its in debian unstable | 10:20 |
| poningru | should I just file a bug in lp for inclusion? | 10:20 |
| poningru | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/alpine | 10:20 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I thought we dropped libGLw in Edgy? | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | poningru: you can file a sync request if you verify that it builds, installs, and works in Feisty | 10:22 |
| poningru | yes sir | 10:22 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I don't know, take a look & find out :) | 10:22 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Uhm, that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop :-) | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | poningru: ohhhhh, alpine. I just realized what you were asking about | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | poningru: that would be cool to see in Feisty | 10:26 |
| poningru | LaserJock: yeah I know right my friend packaged it up | 10:27 |
| poningru | but got no lovin from ubuntu :( | 10:27 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I have every confidence that you can fix it & make everything happy | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | well, it *should* go in Debian first | 10:27 |
| ajmitch | and ponies will be out dancing in the fields, etc | 10:27 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Well that's your first mistake :-) | 10:27 |
| poningru | its in debian unstable... | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | poningru: if it had gotten into Debian early enough it would have been automatically picked up | 10:27 |
| poningru | oh hehe yeah | 10:28 |
| === ajmitch wonders what alpine is | ||
| poningru | I will build it in feisty tonight and file a sync request | 10:28 |
| poningru | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_%28e-mail_client%29 | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: pine replacement | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | well, not replacement | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | oh, you mean mutt | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | it's pine 2.0 | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | :) | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | bah | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | I used pine for a long time at school | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | poor fellow | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | I don't think they even had mutt installed | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | it worked just fine mostly | 10:30 |
| === ajmitch just had a .forward sending stuff onto home | ||
| LaserJock | my boss still uses it | 10:30 |
| hub | I used mutt until I used to many imap accounts | 10:30 |
| ajmitch | and I read my mail via ssh to home | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: well, until recently the uni server was the most stable machine I had access to | 10:31 |
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| LaserJock | then it went up in flames | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | almost literally | 10:31 |
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| === poningru sets LaserJock's server on fire | ||
| enyc | LaserJock: hrrm what univ. was that? | 10:38 |
| enyc | LaserJock: I remember security.debian.org. on fire | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | different fires | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | that was in .nl, I think | 10:39 |
| fernando | mutt is the best :P | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | enyc: mine is the University of Nevada, Reno USA | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | I haven't quite fallen in love with mutt | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | I guess my biggest problem is that I always run it on the email server | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | and then attachments are a pain | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | apparently our server started smoking | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | and the raid control died | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | a bit annoying | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | so the department decided to off-load everything to the campus servers | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | and just the other day the shut down our server | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | so.. now I have a nice webmail account and get my Ubuntu mail sent elswhere | 10:42 |
| fernando | somebody know any article about the better pratics to command line options? =) example, more intuitive, more clean, more easy to users | 10:43 |
| fernando | better format | 10:43 |
| fernando | =) | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | *cough* | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | *more* intuitive and user friendly CLI options? | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | *stuffy british voice* it's simply not done | 10:44 |
| fernando | hehehe | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | all apps must become like tla! | 10:45 |
| === Seveas thwacks ajmitch | ||
| ajmitch | hey now | 10:46 |
| ajmitch | tla was a masterpiece | 10:46 |
| === fernando not kidding =( | ||
| bddebian | Heh, disabling MESA doesn't work either :-( ../include/xwin.h:122:22: error: GL/xmesa.h: No such file or directory | 10:48 |
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| giskard | LaserJock, did you tried mutt -f pops:// ? | 10:53 |
| tsmithe | !tla | 10:54 |
| ubotu | tla: arch revision control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-3.3 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 744 kB | 10:54 |
| tsmithe | meh | 10:54 |
| giskard | the first arch implementation | 10:54 |
| giskard | written by tom lord (iirc) | 10:54 |
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| enyc | LaserJock: hrrm i see | 11:02 |
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| enyc | LaserJock: I remember security.debian.org went up in smoke at the university of twente...... | 11:02 |
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| plugwash | went up in smoke recently? | 11:03 |
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| geser | plugwash: recently as in nov 2002 :) | 11:29 |
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| asantoni | hey guys | 11:39 |
| asantoni | the Ubuntu wiki told me to "ask the REVU admins in #ubuntu-motu .... to re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring" | 11:40 |
| asantoni | :D | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | running it now | 11:43 |
| asantoni | thanks a ton :D | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | should be done in ~10min | 11:43 |
| asantoni | awesome | 11:43 |
| _MMA_ | Anyone know when this stuff will show in the repos? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue Im still trying to learn the process. | 11:47 |
| _MMA_ | Is their someone who pushes it from the queue or does it happen automatically at some point? | 11:47 |
| ScottK | There is someone who pushes it. | 11:48 |
| geser | _MMA_: when an archive admin accepts them (which is only needed for the first time) | 11:48 |
| _MMA_ | geser: Ok. I thought that was the step to get them _to_ the queue not after? Im still learning. :) | 11:49 |
| geser | there are several queues | 11:50 |
| geser | this is the NEW queue where every new package lands | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | REVU queue, NEW queue, source publishing, build queue, binary publishing | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | what else? | 11:51 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | apart from -proposed, etc | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | which are special | 11:51 |
| geser | isn't between build queue and binary publishing once again the NEW queue (this time for the debs)? | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | if they're binary NEW | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | so that's the same queue used twice | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | unapproved queue for freeze times | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | _MMA_: it went REVU -> source NEW -> binary NEW | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | "no blobs by default petition" | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | of course | 11:54 |
| _MMA_ | Ahh... Ok. Just eager to test some of the packages like a bunch of people I guess. Thanx for the info. | 11:54 |
| geser | _MMA_: we have (had?) archive days (tuesdays and fridays) where an archive admin went through the accumulated stuff (syncs, NEW, etc) | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | who wants scary blob monsters in their computer? | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | _MMA_: well, the .debs are in Launchpad if you want to try them out :-) | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | at least I think they are | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: blobs are great | 11:55 |
| _MMA_ | LaserJock: I want have them show all perdy in Synaptic. :) | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | _MMA_: hehe, I know the feeling. apt-get update apt-get install <sweetness> | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: but they are scary | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | I don't want some "Swamp Thing" running around my hard drive | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: they eat ponies! | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | poor little ponies :( | 11:57 |
| === ajmitch has his laptop running here, it has eeevil ipw2200 firmware blobs | ||
| ajmitch | which are shipped in the ubuntu kernel | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | I don't know and frankly don't care what blobs I have | 11:57 |
| _MMA_ | Best pony ever: http://sg.geocities.com/mental_89/blogskins/MY_little_pony.jpg | 11:57 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Are we ever likely to see alternate firmware for those cards? | 11:58 |
| TheMuso | That is free? | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | joy, My Little Pony complete with teenage angst | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | but ... it's not cute and huggy | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: possible but unlikely in the near term | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | yeah, are we going to get Emo Pony? | 11:58 |
| _MMA_ | lol | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: openbsd has drivers that work without their firmware I *think* | 11:59 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: I rmeember hearing something about that, but not sure about the firmware either. | 11:59 |
| === LaserJock wonders if My Little Metallica Pony would sell well | ||
| ajmitch | TheMuso: ah no, their page says you need the firmware | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | probably too old :/ | 11:59 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I'd buy one :-) | 12:00 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: ah well./ | 12:00 |
| === ajmitch can handle using the intel firmware | ||
| LaserJock | just as long as we don't get My Little Maryiln Manson Pony | 12:00 |
| LaserJock | that'd be tooo creepy | 12:01 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Me too, because I don't really have any other choice. | 12:01 |
| ajmitch | unlike nvidia drivers, they don't taint the kernel & run on the cpu | 12:01 |
| TheMuso | I'll use free wheever possible, but am happy to use slightly non-free to make use of hardware I own. | 12:01 |
| somerville32 | In recovery mode, it won't ask for the root passwd no matter what, right? | 12:01 |
| === TheMuso wonders whether Intel will make Linux drivers for their new wireless chips. | ||
| === ajmitch uses nvidia drivers, but wants to help out with nouveau where/if possible | ||
| ajmitch | anyway, back later | 12:02 |
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