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=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by somerville32 at Thu Jan 11 04:31:58 2007 | ||
(mAIJK/#xubuntu) Where do I find the hardware monitor in xfce? | 05:32 | |
bur[n] er | ? | 05:33 |
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bur[n] er | to tell you what exactly? | 05:34 |
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bur[n] er | there's xfce4-taskmanager if that's what you're after.... or add the applet to your bar | 05:34 |
Gryfft | I | 05:34 |
Gryfft | sorry, accidentally hit enter. | 05:34 |
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Gryfft | I'm running Xubuntu on a compaq presario v2000. I'm trying to get the wireless to work- as I understand it, broadcom has refused to release anything so I'm forced to use ndiswrapper. I think I've done everything right, but modprobe doesn't give a message when I run modprobe ndiswrapper, and the light on my wireless isn't turning on. I've followed a few separate tutorials to get where I am now, but I can't seem to get my wireless card to activate. Furthermo | 05:37 |
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synic | Gryfft: is this the 4139 card? | 05:56 |
synic | er... 4319 | 05:56 |
bur[n] er | if it is a 43xx... there are packages out there made by cafuego that work | 06:01 |
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pjgat09 | hi again | 06:09 |
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bur[n] er | anyone know if xfce 4.4 is going to be backported to edgy now that it's released? | 06:14 |
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TheSheep | bur[n] er: thats unlike | 06:15 |
TheSheep | bur[n] er: but you never know | 06:16 |
TheSheep | bur[n] er: I think it'd be more sense to backport it to dapper though -- edgy is not LTS | 06:16 |
pjgat09 | Hi TheSheep, i think i found (one of) the reason why xubuntu doesnt work too well on my computer | 06:17 |
pjgat09 | windows lied, i only have 128mb ram | 06:17 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: why? | 06:17 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: well, 128MB should be enough to use it | 06:17 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: not enough for the livecd installer, though | 06:18 |
pjgat09 | yeh, that might explain that | 06:18 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: did you use the alternate cd? | 06:18 |
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pjgat09 | yes, i did | 06:18 |
pjgat09 | text mode install | 06:18 |
bur[n] er | xfce should work on 128... but don't open firefox :) | 06:18 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: still no good? | 06:19 |
pjgat09 | what happens? :P | 06:19 |
pjgat09 | yeh, the alternate cd did me no good | 06:19 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: nothing spectacular, it's just slow | 06:19 |
pjgat09 | the x server remains unstable | 06:19 |
bur[n] er | pjgat09, just slooooooooow... dillo might work bettter | 06:19 |
pjgat09 | or just slow, maybe its just slow | 06:19 |
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pjgat09 | would slow loading cause the x server, along with most of the rest of the install to freeze? | 06:20 |
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bur[n] er | proly not | 06:20 |
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guigz | hello | 06:20 |
pjgat09 | thats what happens to me | 06:20 |
bur[n] er | wow... very odd... this a laptop by chance? | 06:21 |
pjgat09 | nope, desktop | 06:21 |
guigz | is there a way to make xubuntu basic install smaller? | 06:21 |
bur[n] er | sorry pjgat09, wish I knew | 06:21 |
pjgat09 | i got the x server to load yesterday, but when i tried to open firefox, the cursor disappeared, and i couldnt do anything | 06:21 |
TheSheep | pjgat09: do you have a swap partition set up? | 06:21 |
bur[n] er | pjgat09, maybe it's swapping to your hard drive and your hard drive is bad? | 06:21 |
krenjon | ah finally there is the transparent terminal in xfce ;) | 06:22 |
pjgat09 | i believe i have a swap partition setup | 06:22 |
pjgat09 | its a 4gb HDD, kinda old | 06:22 |
pjgat09 | i can see it being bad | 06:22 |
krenjon | Is there another starterbar besides this gdesklets plugin? | 06:22 |
pjgat09 | i suppose i could buy more ram, thats no big deal | 06:23 |
pjgat09 | ill just have to dig through IDE and other misc cables to find the slot :P | 06:23 |
guigz | is there a way to remove gnumeric and abiword from xubuntu?Each time I try to remove it using synaptic,it says it will uninstall xubuntu desktop... | 06:24 |
pjgat09 | ill worry more about getting an install working later, i still have to help my family move files they want off of this computer | 06:24 |
TheSheep | guigz: don't worry, xubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package to keep it all together | 06:25 |
TheSheep | guigz: you can safely remove it | 06:25 |
TheSheep | guigz: it's empty | 06:26 |
guigz | cool | 06:26 |
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krenjon | and next time you install a package which depends on gnumeric, it will get reinstalled ;) | 06:26 |
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guigz | In fact I installed xubuntu on a 2GB usb key and I'm quite short with disk space.Do I need swap to,since I have 1GB Ram? | 06:27 |
nicolah | Hi guys, what is the path of the trashcan ? I Can't find it | 06:27 |
TheSheep | nicolah: ~/.Trash or ~/.local/share/trash | 06:27 |
krenjon | it's always good to got a bit swap... 256 mb should be enough if you got 1gb ram | 06:27 |
TheSheep | nicolah: but the files are not just kept as files in it | 06:27 |
nicolah | thanks | 06:28 |
nicolah | /home/nicola/.local/share/Trash/files | 06:28 |
guigz | I have 128mb and it's fine... | 06:28 |
TheSheep | nicolah: freedesktop.org has a full spec, if you're interested ;) | 06:28 |
guigz | but I was just wondering whether I should disable it since it's located on an USB key which is quite slow.... | 06:30 |
krenjon | i don't know which apps, but i read something about some ones which needs a swap... | 06:30 |
krenjon | so maybe you run in trouble, maybe not | 06:31 |
nicolah | thanks TheSheep, I have also another problem with xubuntu | 06:31 |
nicolah | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2878/ | 06:31 |
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nicolah | I'm not able to mount this compact flash (it work normally with other cf) | 06:32 |
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TheSheep | nicolah: maybe you need to specify codepage? | 06:32 |
krenjon | hm is there a xchat with compiz transparancy enable? | 06:32 |
TheSheep | nicolah: man mount and then search for vfat | 06:32 |
TheSheep | krenjon: just use irssi in a transparent terminal :) | 06:33 |
krenjon | *laugh* | 06:33 |
krenjon | thanks for the good tip TheSheep ;) | 06:33 |
krenjon | and i can't say it often enough - i love xubuntu feisty ;) | 06:33 |
TheSheep | yes, it's nice | 06:34 |
krenjon | some beauty bugs still there... | 06:34 |
krenjon | like desktop-effects don't recongise xfwm... | 06:34 |
krenjon | and no autoconfig for this XRGB nvidia thing... | 06:34 |
TheSheep | krenjon: what's desktop-effects? | 06:34 |
krenjon | desktop-effects is that plugin which enables easily compiz | 06:34 |
krenjon | or not really plugin - it's a simple windows with 1 button and 2 checkboxes ;) | 06:35 |
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TheSheep | krenjon: well, eaither you use compiz or xfwm4 | 06:35 |
krenjon | yes but with desktop-effects you can put it on or off | 06:35 |
krenjon | and if you want to put it off, it looks for metacity and not xfwm4 | 06:35 |
nicolah | TheSheep, there's something wront in this syntax | 06:35 |
nicolah | sudo mount -t vfat codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova | 06:35 |
TheSheep | krenjon: use the beryl-manager instead :) | 06:36 |
krenjon | hehe i don't want to use beryl ;) | 06:36 |
TheSheep | krenjon: it can be configured to use whatver wm you want | 06:36 |
krenjon | i like to use what's given with the "original" repos | 06:36 |
krenjon | i know, i'm just talking about beauty bugs :) i know the basics of linux and don't have to use that tools, but i like it easy and confortable ;) | 06:37 |
krenjon | and i love it, when linux comes that easy that every windows noob can handle it... | 06:37 |
krenjon | coz that means that more people use linux, and that means more software (especially games) ;) | 06:37 |
nicolah | thesheep where do I read the right codepage ? I read that the default codepage for vfat is 437 | 06:38 |
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Toran | I was editing my menu manually and I accidentally removed the settings menu. I can get an entry in the menu now for the settings control center, but I would like a submenu where I can choose what I want to configure specifically. How can I get this menu back? | 06:40 |
nicolah | there's now codepage option for vfat in man | 06:40 |
TheSheep | Toran: just include a system menu somewhere | 06:41 |
TheSheep | nicolah: sudo mount -t vfat -o codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova | 06:41 |
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Toran | TheSheep: Which system menu? | 06:42 |
nicolah | same error | 06:43 |
TheSheep | nicolah: you're sure it's the right partition? | 06:43 |
TheSheep | nicolah: try fdisk -l /dev/sde | 06:43 |
krenjon | i still need a standalone launcherbar as a replacement for gdesklets... | 06:44 |
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guigz | hello | 06:47 |
guigz | I'd like to remove unused video drivers,but synaptics tells me it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all" | 06:48 |
guigz | Are they all needed | 06:48 |
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TheSheep | Toran: you can examine the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ | 06:53 |
TheSheep | Toran: that's what the menu is generated from | 06:53 |
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vai_ro | how can i tell what resolution i'm currently running? | 06:54 |
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TheSheep | vai_ro: hmm... xvidtune maybe? | 06:57 |
vai_ro | i'll give it a try | 06:58 |
TheSheep | HDisplayVDisplay | 06:58 |
vai_ro | xvidtune worked thanks | 06:59 |
nicolah | TheSheep, it was a cf problem. I formatted the flashmemory and now it works normally | 07:00 |
nicolah | thanks | 07:00 |
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nicolah | is there a way to have a visual tool for search in xubuntu ? | 07:05 |
nicolah | I tryed with some script but I couldn't get it to work | 07:05 |
TheSheep | nicolah: yes, there is a number of them available | 07:05 |
guigz | Hello,I'd like to remove unused X drivers,but when I use synaptic to remove it,it says it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all"...is it safe to remove them?? | 07:05 |
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TheSheep | nicolah: install tracker-search-tool | 07:05 |
nicolah | thanks | 07:05 |
TheSheep | guigz: I think that 'xserver-xorg' is needeed, the other two are just empty | 07:06 |
TheSheep | !info xorg | 07:06 |
ubotu | xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB | 07:06 |
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TheSheep | !info xserver-xorg-video-all | 07:06 |
ubotu | xserver-xorg-video-all: the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB | 07:06 |
TheSheep | !info xserver-xorg | 07:06 |
ubotu | xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB | 07:06 |
guigz | !info | 07:07 |
ubotu | info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB | 07:07 |
guigz | how do !info work? | 07:07 |
nicolah | hey TheSheep I searched for "tracker search" in synaptic but I couldn't find it, any hints | 07:07 |
nicolah | ? | 07:07 |
TheSheep | guigz: the same as apt-cache search <foo> | 07:07 |
TheSheep | nicolah: hmm.. maybe it's in feisty only... | 07:08 |
guigz | So I can safely uninstall the drivers? | 07:08 |
nicolah | Ok, probably I'll wait till april | 07:08 |
TheSheep | guigz: yes, just make sure you install xserver-xorg back | 07:09 |
TheSheep | nicolah: I think there are debs for dapper and edgy too | 07:09 |
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TheSheep | nicolah: http://live.gnome.org/Tracker | 07:10 |
TheSheep | nicolah: http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/ | 07:11 |
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TheSheep | nicolah: you need to add trackerd to autostarted applications | 07:12 |
nicolah | which one should I download ? | 07:13 |
nicolah | http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/ | 07:13 |
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TheSheep | nicolah: 5.2.0 | 07:13 |
TheSheep | nicolah: it still doesn't have all the features that are planned, but works pretty good | 07:14 |
nicolah | thanks | 07:14 |
kalikiana | I don't have tracker in my autostart, it's running whenever tracker-search is run.. | 07:14 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: then it has to re-check all the files that changed at the startup | 07:15 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: if it runs all the time, it just updates the database when the files are written | 07:15 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: much faster | 07:16 |
krenjon | hm damn... xfmedia won't work with shoutcast streams (not with all) | 07:16 |
kalikiana | hm... seems very reasonable. did you just add trackerd to your autostart? | 07:16 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: via settings->autostarted applications | 07:17 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: it takse about 4MB of ram | 07:17 |
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kalikiana | i'll try, i am usually on 300/1000gb :P | 07:18 |
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kalikiana | ^^ mb of course | 07:18 |
TheSheep | O.o | 07:18 |
TheSheep | shame | 07:18 |
kalikiana | and still on xubuntu *lol* | 07:19 |
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slow-motion | hallo | 07:26 |
TheSheep | hi slow-motion | 07:27 |
slow-motion | hi TheSheep | 07:27 |
slow-motion | do i still need unrar when i have 7zip? | 07:27 |
TheSheep | slow-motion: I think so | 07:28 |
slow-motion | TheSheep you are right | 07:31 |
TheSheep | that's good :) | 07:31 |
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slow-motion | i dont know what is better bzip, bz2, tar+bzip, tar+bz2, rar, 7zip | 07:32 |
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orByt1 | hi guys | 07:36 |
kalikiana | hi | 07:37 |
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sk | Hello, I have a question, is anybody there? | 07:41 |
kalikiana | !ask | 07:41 |
ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 07:41 |
sk | Alright, I'm on xubuntu, and I have installed the gnome-core packet, how do I actually switch to gnome now? | 07:42 |
kalikiana | You'll be having gdm, right? So you can choose a session. | 07:43 |
sk | What's that? (sorry, this is my first time running a Linux) | 07:43 |
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kalikiana | It's the login dialog. | 07:43 |
sk | Well, I don't know, I only installed the package. I could try to log-off. | 07:43 |
kalikiana | If you log off you normally get to gdm == the login screen. | 07:44 |
kalikiana | There you can choose a session, which may be gnome, xfce, a backup terminal or whatever you installed. | 07:45 |
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sk3 | Alright, thanks for the help. | 07:53 |
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sk_3 | Hmm, I connect to the internet using the VPN client, is there anyway to automate it at least partly? | 07:54 |
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Powha | Is it possible to restore the default applications menu in xubuntu. Somehow mine is gone, just a tiny dot appears. | 08:14 |
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nominal | Hello? | 08:15 |
somerville32 | Hi | 08:15 |
nominal | I have a question. | 08:15 |
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somerville32 | Powha: Right click, properties, use default desktop menu <-- See if this works. | 08:16 |
somerville32 | !ask | nominal | 08:16 |
ubotu | nominal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 08:16 |
nominal | I can't find a driver for my wireless adaptor, what am I to do? | 08:16 |
somerville32 | !wireless | nominal | 08:16 |
ubotu | nominal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 08:16 |
nominal | Alright, thanks! | 08:16 |
Powha | somerville32: nope it's empty. | 08:19 |
nominal | ~$ means? | 08:21 |
somerville32 | nominal, It is a prompt. | 08:21 |
nominal | Got it. | 08:21 |
somerville32 | Powha, Interesting. Any idea how it got like this? | 08:22 |
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sk | How can I mount an external harddrive so that I can edit/create/delete files? | 08:22 |
sk | Xubuntu doesn't normally let me do it. | 08:22 |
Powha | somerville32: hmm, I think I was in edit menu or something. when I clicked the "edit meny button" nothing happened. So I clicked it a couple of times, and suddenly it appered like 10 windows of the edit meny thing. I closed them and now it is like this. | 08:24 |
somerville32 | sk: Is it a USB hard drive? | 08:24 |
somerville32 | Powha: Maybe try restarting the applet? | 08:25 |
sk | Yup. | 08:25 |
Powha | I have restarted the system since. | 08:25 |
fijam | Powha: I may know how to solve your problem, just give me a while | 08:26 |
somerville32 | sk: Then plugging it in should mount is automatically. | 08:26 |
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sk | Well, it gets mounted, but I can't do anything other than play the files in the system. | 08:26 |
sk | No creating folders etc. | 08:26 |
sk | Or editing existing ones. | 08:26 |
Powha | fijam: ok | 08:26 |
sk | When I go to its Permissions and try to change it to "Create and delete files", it returns the error "Couldn't change the permissions of 'Volume' because it is on a read-only disk." | 08:28 |
fijam | sk: I've also had troubles with mounting external drives in read-write mode, as far as I remember you have to do this manually with some umask setting | 08:28 |
sk | Well, can I change my permissions in general so I can do more? | 08:29 |
sk | I mean, it's my system, I'm not gonna start to delete files I don't know, I don't know why xubuntu limits my actions so much. | 08:29 |
fijam | Powha: open your terminal and type cd ~/.config/xfce4/desktop | 08:30 |
fijam | sk: what filesystem is that drive? | 08:30 |
Powha | how do I open the terminal? it was in the menu :p | 08:30 |
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somerville32 | sk: What version of Xubuntu do you use? 6.10 or 6.06? | 08:31 |
sk | mount says ntfs | 08:31 |
somerville32 | Oh! | 08:31 |
sk | 6.10 | 08:31 |
somerville32 | Thats why | 08:31 |
somerville32 | You need to install ntfs drivers! :) | 08:31 |
somerville32 | !ntfs | sk | 08:31 |
ubotu | sk: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse | 08:31 |
sk | /dev/sda1 on /media/Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) | 08:31 |
fijam | in that case you'd need to use e.g fuse to mount it | 08:31 |
fijam | yeah | 08:31 |
sk | I see | 08:31 |
fijam | Powha: oh, it was indeed. You can add verva panel plugin with command line | 08:32 |
fijam | and run Terminal from there | 08:32 |
Powha | I will log out and do a terminal session. | 08:32 |
fijam | there was a keybord shourtcut... | 08:33 |
fijam | wait a sec | 08:33 |
sk | Well, how do I install those drivers / fuge? | 08:33 |
sk | fuse | 08:33 |
sk | The only thing written in that document that's related is "*At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written." | 08:33 |
Pekke | owha: i couldn't get that verva to work, can you tell me what to do, to get it to work like a terminal? | 08:33 |
fijam | Powha: alt+ F2 | 08:33 |
Pekke | Powha, i ment, sorry | 08:34 |
fijam | Powha: and then Terminal, xterm or whatever you use | 08:34 |
fijam | got it? | 08:35 |
Powha | It says the directory can't be found. | 08:35 |
fijam | ok, so step by step | 08:38 |
fijam | are you in your home directory? | 08:38 |
Powha | Can't I get to the appmanager and just reinstall the meny? | 08:39 |
fijam | ok, this should solve the problem | 08:40 |
fijam | cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml | 08:41 |
Powha | If I press alt+f2 I get "Run program" | 08:42 |
Powha | ah "T"erminal (: | 08:42 |
fijam | yes, type Terminal there | 08:42 |
fijam | yeah, I got caught on that too | 08:43 |
fijam | sk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access | 08:43 |
fijam | a second too late | 08:43 |
Powha | fijam: thnx! It worked :D | 08:46 |
fijam | you're welcome :) | 08:47 |
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Ramla | Is there an easy way to troubleshoot which is causing loss of internet connection, software/hardware or something outside the computer? | 08:51 |
fijam | What kind of connection is that? Ethernet, ADSL? How often does it happen? What are the symptoms? | 08:54 |
pjgat09 | lol | 08:56 |
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mark488 | Anyone know how I can enable my right alt key to behave like the left one? (a setting in xfce or x? preferably easily, without manually editing the keymap) | 09:29 |
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torrr | hi, I am window shopping for a distro | 09:34 |
torrr | I wonder if there is a difference between xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop? | 09:35 |
torrr | beside the DE ? | 09:35 |
mark488 | sorry, seems like you hit a quiet time here | 09:37 |
torrr | seems like it mark488 | 09:38 |
mark488 | my impression is that beneath the DE, things are similar | 09:38 |
torrr | it is hard to tell... | 09:38 |
torrr | I think things can be added to the compilation to support features perhaps | 09:39 |
torrr | but I am not sure | 09:39 |
mark488 | xfce / gnome .... speed difference | 09:39 |
torrr | I've downloaded ubuntu-desktop, I think I could install xfce on top of it if I wish | 09:40 |
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torrr | I am just wondering since I want a multi-user environment when many users are accessing the ubuntu-server via X | 09:41 |
torrr | via network | 09:41 |
torrr | LAN | 09:41 |
torrr | and so I want it to be responsive for 15 users | 09:42 |
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mark488 | so you're desiring greater speed or functionality? | 09:43 |
adamwest_ | hey guys, is the new xfce available for ubuntu? | 09:43 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, It is available in the development version, Feisty Fawn | 09:44 |
adamwest_ | but what if i want to try it out on my current edge? | 09:45 |
adamwest_ | *edgy | 09:45 |
torrr | mark488: I desire grater speed, since the DE will probably be the client's own DE. | 09:46 |
torrr | mark488: and the client would probably run rootless | 09:46 |
torrr | mark488: and there would probably be many clients | 09:47 |
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torrr | mark488: but I also want to be able to administrate the server easyly | 09:47 |
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somerville32 | torrr, so you're looking to setup an LTSP? | 09:48 |
torrr | somerville32: from what I understood LTSP don't have client apps for other OSs | 09:48 |
torrr | somerville32: otherwize I would have tried it | 09:49 |
torrr | somerville32: though I didn't get into it deeply so I may be wrong | 09:49 |
mark488 | torrr: very cool. beyond me as a linux newbie | 09:49 |
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torrr | mark488: you make me feel good about my self :) | 09:49 |
somerville32 | torrr: Xubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except for the default packages installed. | 09:49 |
adamwest_ | guys is it safe to install the graphic installation of the new xubuntu on ubuntu edgy? | 09:50 |
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torrr | somerville32: can you give me example for packages that come with xubuntu? | 09:51 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, No, it is not "safe". | 09:51 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, i dont know yet, i tried and b0rked my system, but i am working to fix it, there is a forum thread and they didnt have problems | 09:51 |
somerville32 | torrr: Xfce4 instead of gnome | 09:51 |
torrr | somerville32: I can add that in later in ubuntu right? | 09:51 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: so how come they just let people download it as "stable release"? | 09:52 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, how knowledgeable are you with ubuntu/linux/xfce | 09:52 |
somerville32 | torrr: Yes. You can install any packages you like. | 09:52 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, Why not? | 09:52 |
adamwest_ | bigfuzzyjesus: i juststarted using linux a week or ago or so | 09:52 |
adamwest_ | :) | 09:52 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: .. u said it might not be safe | 09:53 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, In the linux world, most people use package management. | 09:53 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, ie. Your distro packages and ensures that the software will work with your system | 09:53 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, It is possible to download and install what ever you want but it is better to use the package management system. | 09:54 |
adamwest_ | oh, ok | 09:54 |
adamwest_ | btw just out of curiosity, how do you run ".run" files? | 09:55 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, Xfce 4.4.0 will be available in Feisty which will be released in April. | 09:55 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, you could install but in your situation i dont think i would, as you are a new user etc. etc., BUT have fun with xubuntu! | 09:55 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: D: that's a long time from now ^_^ | 09:55 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, However, there isn't a big difference between Xfce 3.9.9.2 | 09:55 |
adamwest_ | bigfuzzyjesus: thanks but i'm currently a gnome user :) | 09:55 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, chmod +x <package name>.run | 09:56 |
adamwest_ | thanks bigfuzzyjesus | 09:56 |
bigfuzzyjesus | sudo ./<package name>.run | 09:56 |
adamwest_ | ! ok ok :) | 09:56 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ok ok :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 09:56 |
somerville32 | bigfuzzyjesus, You could also tell him how to do it through Thunar | 09:56 |
somerville32 | bigfuzzyjesus, Some people don't like using the command line | 09:57 |
adamwest_ | no it's ok, somerville32 | 09:57 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, you could do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and get xcfe 3.9.9.2 for your desktop | 09:57 |
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adamwest_ | isn't the last version 4.2? | 09:58 |
bigfuzzyjesus | somerville32, i like using the command line... its so much quicker, lightweight, functional etc., its like the swiss-army knife of programs :) | 09:58 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, no | 09:58 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, The latest version is 4.4 | 09:58 |
adamwest_ | no i meant the LAST version... as before 4.4 . or my english can be bad sometimes :P | 09:59 |
somerville32 | There are two branches | 09:59 |
somerville32 | 4.2 and 4.4 | 09:59 |
somerville32 | However, 4.2 had it's last release the other week | 09:59 |
adamwest_ | yeah i saw that | 09:59 |
Gryfft | (sorry to jump in) I've been trying to make a broadcom card work. Hence, ndiswrapper. I've done everything exactly as the walkthroughs say to do, but ndiswrapper -l gives me this message: bcmwl5 : driver installed device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) | 09:59 |
adamwest_ | so the latest xubuntu was actually 3.9.9.2? | 10:00 |
adamwest_ | *xfce i mean | 10:00 |
Gryfft | Eh, that error message didn't look so big when I typed it. Sorry. | 10:00 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, I think it might have actually been 3.9.9.1 | 10:00 |
somerville32 | ie. 4.4RC1 | 10:00 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: lol kinda old, aint it? :P | 10:00 |
adamwest_ | i think i already asked that sometime, but is there a way to make sure linux is performing at its best? i mean nothing slows it down and stuff (still has windows issues in my head) | 10:01 |
adamwest_ | *have | 10:01 |
somerville32 | I've never done anything special | 10:02 |
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adamwest_ | because i feel like it's kinda slow D: mostly firefox | 10:02 |
adamwest_ | it's not supposed to be slow .. even if i dont have the strongest comp | 10:02 |
Gryfft | under dmesg it says loadndisdriver failed. which according to the wiki means I'm using an old kernel? | 10:03 |
Gryfft | sorry to derail. | 10:03 |
Gryfft | I'm using ndiswrapper 1.34... did I compile ndiswrapper wrong? | 10:05 |
somerville32 | Gryfft, I'd wait until Maxamillion get heres. He has lots of experience with Wireless. | 10:06 |
bigfuzzyjesus | Gryfft, i have never used a linux computer without ethernet, for me there is really no need, until i get my laptop | 10:06 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, What version of Firefox are you using? | 10:06 |
bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, have you thought about swiftfox | 10:06 |
adamwest_ | 2.0.0.1, latest | 10:06 |
adamwest_ | never tried that | 10:07 |
Gryfft | I'll drop back in in an hour or two, thanks anyway. I've now managed to make xubuntu forget my wireless card even exists... I'll keep troubleshooting, thanks. | 10:07 |
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bigfuzzyjesus | adamwest_, it is optimized for what ever hardware you have and for linux :) | 10:07 |
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adamwest_ | swiftfox is automatic adjusting? | 10:08 |
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somerville32 | adamwest_, How much processing power do you have and how much ram? | 10:09 |
somerville32 | I have a 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram and Firefox is alright for me | 10:09 |
adamwest_ | 1300mhz, 512ram | 10:09 |
somerville32 | lol | 10:09 |
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adamwest_ | why lol :D | 10:10 |
frankabel | I just install the fileinfo php module with "pecl install fileinfo"... but it don't show installed... I found on the web that I must enable it on the php.ini file | 10:10 |
g333k_work | Hi if I installed my xubuntu in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do? | 10:11 |
adamwest_ | somerville32, why the laugh? :P | 10:11 |
frankabel | exist a command to enable such extension? or is just editing the php.ini | 10:11 |
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somerville32 | ;] | 10:12 |
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adamwest_ | nu why somerville32! :) | 10:13 |
bigfuzzyjesus | #join #xubuntu-offtopic | 10:13 |
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slow-motion | n8 | 10:14 |
g333k_work | Hi if I installed my system in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do? | 10:15 |
adamwest_ | please somerville32!!! :) i need heeeeelp | 10:16 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, What do you need help with? | 10:17 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: about swiftfox... | 10:17 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, I've never used it | 10:17 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: and why did u laugh at me ^_^ | 10:17 |
somerville32 | !swiftfox | adamwest_ | 10:17 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:17 |
somerville32 | hehe | 10:17 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, http://getswiftfox.com/ | 10:18 |
adamwest_ | thanks | 10:18 |
adamwest_ | you're not going to tellme why u laughed... do you :) | 10:18 |
somerville32 | Also see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142798 | 10:19 |
adamwest_ | where do i find my system processor stats on linux? device manager? (to make sure what i have) | 10:21 |
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adamwest_ | umm -- how do i find my processor info ? | 10:25 |
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somerville32 | Solsol: So, you're having problems with your Internet in Xubuntu? | 10:28 |
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Solsol | Can someone help me make my internet connection work in xubuntu? | 10:28 |
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Solsol | n ya. | 10:29 |
Solsol | i get a "network is down error" | 10:29 |
Solsol | when i try to use pppoeconf to set it up | 10:30 |
fxr | how safe is sudo apt-get auto-remove ?? I wanna clean up my xubuntu install so i have installed only what i need or am actively using... | 10:30 |
somerville32 | Solsol: What kind of connection do you? | 10:31 |
somerville32 | Solsol: ADSL, Cable? | 10:31 |
Solsol | I am trying to set it up thru my dsl modem currently | 10:32 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Can you please pastebin the output of ifconfig? | 10:32 |
somerville32 | !pastebin | 10:32 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 10:32 |
Solsol | k. | 10:33 |
Solsol | i can do that in windows right? | 10:33 |
Solsol | !pastebin | 10:34 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 10:34 |
somerville32 | Oh right | 10:34 |
somerville32 | Unfortunately you'll need to get that info from your Xubuntu install. | 10:34 |
somerville32 | Are you dual booting? | 10:34 |
Solsol | yes. | 10:35 |
adamwest_ | guys where can i find my computer processor info? | 10:35 |
somerville32 | adamwest_, There are some applets you can use and you can look in /proc/cpuinfo | 10:35 |
Solsol | i can get that indo and be back in a few minutes. | 10:35 |
Solsol | info* | 10:35 |
adamwest_ | thanks somerville32 | 10:35 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Alright, thanks :) | 10:36 |
Solsol | so. brb | 10:36 |
Solsol | n you're welcome | 10:36 |
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g333k_work | Hi, when I do #dpkg-reconfigure locales it doesnt ask me to choose languages, why? I just receive a message "Generation complete." | 10:37 |
somerville32 | g333k_work, Applications > System > Language Support | 10:37 |
adamwest_ | somerville32: that file's empty D: | 10:38 |
somerville32 | /proc/cpuinfo ? | 10:39 |
adamwest_ | yes | 10:39 |
TheSheep | mount /proc | 10:39 |
TheSheep | and try again | 10:39 |
adamwest_ | u did sudo gedit /proc/cpuinfo nad didn't work | 10:39 |
adamwest_ | *i | 10:39 |
TheSheep | lol | 10:39 |
somerville32 | No need to open it as root | 10:39 |
TheSheep | and no way to edit it :) | 10:40 |
adamwest_ | it says permission denied | 10:40 |
adamwest_ | so what do i do | 10:40 |
TheSheep | cat /proc/cpuinfo | 10:41 |
adamwest_ | what's cat? | 10:41 |
somerville32 | It displays it all at once | 10:42 |
adamwest_ | ah ok | 10:42 |
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Solsol | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2907/plain/ | 10:48 |
Solsol | there you are somervile | 10:49 |
Solsol | help any? | 10:51 |
somerville32 | Solsol, Make sure to type my entire name to get my attention | 10:53 |
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Solsol | o. ok | 10:54 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Are you using a router? | 10:54 |
Solsol | Not with my ethernet connection. It only needs my modem | 10:54 |
somerville32 | It says that you have an internal ip address already assigned to eth0 | 10:54 |
Solsol | I may have it set to a static IP | 10:55 |
somerville32 | What kind of ADSL model do you have? | 10:55 |
Solsol | A Parydyne | 10:55 |
somerville32 | Can you give me make and model number? | 10:55 |
Solsol | yes. hold on | 10:55 |
Solsol | 6381-a3-200 | 10:56 |
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Solsol | You there? | 10:59 |
somerville32 | Yes :P | 11:00 |
somerville32 | I'm researching | 11:00 |
Solsol | ok | 11:00 |
Solsol | If it helps any, my windows detects the linux gateway and that is active | 11:01 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Linux gateway? | 11:01 |
Solsol | yes, i'll send the full name of the connection | 11:02 |
Solsol | hmm...it was there earlier | 11:02 |
Solsol | nvm that | 11:02 |
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ShoeUnited | Heyo | 11:04 |
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ShoeUnited | It's been bothering me (as well I'm sure others) What happened to xfskin? | 11:05 |
ShoeUnited | !xfskin | 11:06 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about xfskin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 11:06 |
ShoeUnited | !theme | 11:06 |
ubotu | Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 11:06 |
ShoeUnited | !changethemes | 11:07 |
ubotu | [Ubuntu] Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE] For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu | 11:07 |
ShoeUnited | :/ | 11:07 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Ok | 11:10 |
Solsol | find something? | 11:10 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Yes. I found a person who had the same modem as you and how they fixed it. | 11:10 |
somerville32 | http://www.mepis.org/node/9240 <-- Last comment | 11:10 |
Solsol | ahh, sounds perfect. | 11:10 |
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somerville32 | They are using a different OS though so the instructions don't translate perfectly | 11:11 |
ShoeUnited | oo mepis | 11:11 |
Solsol | the one by robert59? | 11:11 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Basically, I believe that your ADSL modem acts sort of like a router | 11:11 |
Solsol | oh | 11:11 |
somerville32 | I saw that you already had an ip address | 11:11 |
somerville32 | Did you try to see if it even worked in Linux yet? | 11:12 |
Solsol | yes | 11:12 |
somerville32 | And you couldn't access anything? | 11:12 |
Solsol | the only thing that even remotely had access was itune's update service | 11:12 |
Solsol | but, i couldnt actually download | 11:12 |
Solsol | (i used a seperate application to add itunes) | 11:13 |
Solsol | hmm, what is a "broadcast number"? | 11:13 |
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somerville32 | Not completely sure | 11:15 |
Solsol | nor am i, and these things are usually what i am good at....but of course that's in windows | 11:16 |
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ShoeUnited | I need help switching themes on Xub I untarred the file into ~/.themes and /usr/share/themes and I still get nothing. xfskin doesn't exist. :( pleas a little guide/guidance | 11:16 |
ShoeUnited | *please | 11:16 |
somerville32 | Solsol: Did you know that your model uses embedded linux? lol | 11:16 |
somerville32 | *modem | 11:16 |
Solsol | nope. haha | 11:16 |
Solsol | i shall try that and see what happens. | 11:17 |
Solsol | be back later perhaps. | 11:17 |
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somerville32 | ShowUnited: You untar the file to ~/.themes/ | 11:18 |
somerville32 | and then they appear in applications > settings > user interface settings | 11:18 |
ShoeUnited | That's the part that's getting me, it's not appearing in ui s | 11:18 |
ShoeUnited | Should I restart? | 11:19 |
ShoeUnited | cause I restarted X after doing that (ctrl+alt+bckspc) | 11:19 |
ShoeUnited | And it still doesn't show up. Unless there's a scripting speciality I'm not aware of. | 11:20 |
somerville32 | ShowUnited: What theme are you trying to install? | 11:20 |
ShoeUnited | Lemme find the link | 11:20 |
ShoeUnited | http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=51954&PHPSESSID=ab29be9a0c0284d707e1e93dfc628481 | 11:21 |
somerville32 | ShowUnited: Try looking in Applications > Settings > Windows Manager | 11:28 |
somerville32 | Also, can you pastebin the output of ls ~/.themes/ ? | 11:28 |
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gunny01 | I want to use my xubuntu box as a webserver that can be seen by other pc on the network. Any ideas? | 12:19 |
tonyyarusso | gunny01: Planning to use Apache, or something else (like lighthttpd)? | 12:19 |
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adamwest | guys how come http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/ <--- that doesn't display right? | 12:21 |
maxamillion | adamwest: what doesn't display right? | 12:22 |
adamwest | the metacity | 12:22 |
tonyyarusso | gunny01: Also, are you only planning to serve web pages, or do you want other things too (ftp server, etc) | 12:22 |
gunny01 | Just webpages. | 12:22 |
gunny01 | poss. ftp as well | 12:22 |
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maxamillion | adamwest: metacity is the media player i assume? | 12:22 |
adamwest | maxamillion: it won't show the buttons and stuff right... it's like the old gnome theme | 12:22 |
drx0drx | Error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed' | 12:22 |
adamwest | maxamillion: oops i meant the buttons and scrollbars and stuff... what's "inside" the window | 12:23 |
adamwest | cant remember the proper name | 12:23 |
maxamillion | adamwest: ohhh yeah, that's right ... metacity is the window manager in gnome | 12:23 |
drx0drx | is anyone here knowledgable enough to assist me with an installation error? | 12:23 |
tonyyarusso | gunny01: To get the web pages part set up, install the apache2 package. For ftp, I use vsftpd myself. Make sure you have port forwarding for 80 if you're using a router for http, 443 for https, 20 and 21 for ftp. The root web directory will be /var/www/ | 12:24 |
maxamillion | adamwest: but ... errr, that's just the gtk theme ... i think, actually ... i bet someone in #xfce could answer that better for you | 12:24 |
adamwest | i'm asking here because this is the channel i get help :P other channels ain't answering so much | 12:24 |
maxamillion | drx0drx: i might be ... what's up? | 12:24 |
drx0drx | max, Error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed' | 12:24 |
maxamillion | adamwest: hrmmm.... i don't personally know because i don't do much theme changing but it just looks like the gtk button theme is off | 12:25 |
adamwest | it works with other themes... | 12:25 |
adamwest | btw is there another server with good linux channels except irc.freenode.org? | 12:26 |
adamwest | *com | 12:26 |
maxamillion | drx0drx: boot live cd, mount the hard drive and do "sudo update-grub" might help | 12:26 |
maxamillion | adamwest: freenode.net* ... and no, not that i know of | 12:26 |
drx0drx0drx0 | grubs not installed yet | 12:26 |
adamwest | weird. i'm on irc.freenode.com now | 12:26 |
maxamillion | adamwest: its possible they own both domains now and just re-direct .com to the server and not worry about it :) | 12:27 |
adamwest | ah ok then | 12:27 |
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