=== Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users === Topic (#xubuntu): set by somerville32 at Thu Jan 11 04:31:58 2007 [05:32] (mAIJK/#xubuntu) Where do I find the hardware monitor in xfce? [05:33] ? [05:34] to tell you what exactly? === Gryfft [n=gryfft@209.184.165.20] has joined #xubuntu [05:34] there's xfce4-taskmanager if that's what you're after.... or add the applet to your bar [05:34] I [05:34] sorry, accidentally hit enter. === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:37] I'm running Xubuntu on a compaq presario v2000. I'm trying to get the wireless to work- as I understand it, broadcom has refused to release anything so I'm forced to use ndiswrapper. I think I've done everything right, but modprobe doesn't give a message when I run modprobe ndiswrapper, and the light on my wireless isn't turning on. I've followed a few separate tutorials to get where I am now, but I can't seem to get my wireless card to activate. Furthermo === carham [n=Ham@163.178.17.109] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === AtomicSpaceKrake [n=jon@stott1.demon.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [05:56] Gryfft: is this the 4139 card? [05:56] er... 4319 [06:01] if it is a 43xx... there are packages out there made by cafuego that work === devilsadvocate [n=devilsad@203.200.95.183] has joined #xubuntu [06:09] hi again === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-192-205.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:14] anyone know if xfce 4.4 is going to be backported to edgy now that it's released? === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-215-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #xubuntu [06:15] bur[n] er: thats unlike [06:16] bur[n] er: but you never know [06:16] bur[n] er: I think it'd be more sense to backport it to dapper though -- edgy is not LTS [06:17] Hi TheSheep, i think i found (one of) the reason why xubuntu doesnt work too well on my computer [06:17] windows lied, i only have 128mb ram [06:17] pjgat09: why? [06:17] pjgat09: well, 128MB should be enough to use it [06:18] pjgat09: not enough for the livecd installer, though [06:18] yeh, that might explain that [06:18] pjgat09: did you use the alternate cd? === gripir [n=gripir@p549C8A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:18] yes, i did [06:18] text mode install [06:18] xfce should work on 128... but don't open firefox :) [06:19] pjgat09: still no good? [06:19] what happens? :P [06:19] yeh, the alternate cd did me no good [06:19] pjgat09: nothing spectacular, it's just slow [06:19] the x server remains unstable [06:19] pjgat09, just slooooooooow... dillo might work bettter [06:19] or just slow, maybe its just slow === krenjon [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:20] would slow loading cause the x server, along with most of the rest of the install to freeze? === bur[n] er runs a p3 1 ghz w/256 on xubuntu very well [06:20] proly not === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:20] hello [06:20] thats what happens to me [06:21] wow... very odd... this a laptop by chance? [06:21] nope, desktop [06:21] is there a way to make xubuntu basic install smaller? [06:21] sorry pjgat09, wish I knew [06:21] i got the x server to load yesterday, but when i tried to open firefox, the cursor disappeared, and i couldnt do anything [06:21] pjgat09: do you have a swap partition set up? [06:21] pjgat09, maybe it's swapping to your hard drive and your hard drive is bad? [06:22] ah finally there is the transparent terminal in xfce ;) [06:22] i believe i have a swap partition setup [06:22] its a 4gb HDD, kinda old [06:22] i can see it being bad [06:22] Is there another starterbar besides this gdesklets plugin? [06:23] i suppose i could buy more ram, thats no big deal [06:23] ill just have to dig through IDE and other misc cables to find the slot :P [06:24] is there a way to remove gnumeric and abiword from xubuntu?Each time I try to remove it using synaptic,it says it will uninstall xubuntu desktop... [06:24] ill worry more about getting an install working later, i still have to help my family move files they want off of this computer [06:25] guigz: don't worry, xubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package to keep it all together [06:25] guigz: you can safely remove it [06:26] guigz: it's empty [06:26] cool === Pekke [n=peksu@a84-230-184-134.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu [06:26] and next time you install a package which depends on gnumeric, it will get reinstalled ;) === nicolah [n=nicola@151.53.194.47] has joined #xubuntu [06:27] In fact I installed xubuntu on a 2GB usb key and I'm quite short with disk space.Do I need swap to,since I have 1GB Ram? [06:27] Hi guys, what is the path of the trashcan ? I Can't find it [06:27] nicolah: ~/.Trash or ~/.local/share/trash [06:27] it's always good to got a bit swap... 256 mb should be enough if you got 1gb ram [06:27] nicolah: but the files are not just kept as files in it [06:28] thanks [06:28] /home/nicola/.local/share/Trash/files [06:28] I have 128mb and it's fine... [06:28] nicolah: freedesktop.org has a full spec, if you're interested ;) [06:30] but I was just wondering whether I should disable it since it's located on an USB key which is quite slow.... [06:30] i don't know which apps, but i read something about some ones which needs a swap... [06:31] so maybe you run in trouble, maybe not [06:31] thanks TheSheep, I have also another problem with xubuntu [06:31] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2878/ === underguiz [n=undergui@201.48.71.91] has joined #xubuntu [06:32] I'm not able to mount this compact flash (it work normally with other cf) === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-97.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [06:32] nicolah: maybe you need to specify codepage? [06:32] hm is there a xchat with compiz transparancy enable? [06:32] nicolah: man mount and then search for vfat [06:33] krenjon: just use irssi in a transparent terminal :) [06:33] *laugh* [06:33] thanks for the good tip TheSheep ;) [06:33] and i can't say it often enough - i love xubuntu feisty ;) [06:34] yes, it's nice [06:34] some beauty bugs still there... [06:34] like desktop-effects don't recongise xfwm... [06:34] and no autoconfig for this XRGB nvidia thing... [06:34] krenjon: what's desktop-effects? [06:34] desktop-effects is that plugin which enables easily compiz [06:35] or not really plugin - it's a simple windows with 1 button and 2 checkboxes ;) === pillo__ [n=pillo@86.111.64.62] has joined #xubuntu [06:35] krenjon: well, eaither you use compiz or xfwm4 [06:35] yes but with desktop-effects you can put it on or off [06:35] and if you want to put it off, it looks for metacity and not xfwm4 [06:35] TheSheep, there's something wront in this syntax [06:35] sudo mount -t vfat codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova [06:36] krenjon: use the beryl-manager instead :) [06:36] hehe i don't want to use beryl ;) [06:36] krenjon: it can be configured to use whatver wm you want [06:36] i like to use what's given with the "original" repos [06:37] i know, i'm just talking about beauty bugs :) i know the basics of linux and don't have to use that tools, but i like it easy and confortable ;) [06:37] and i love it, when linux comes that easy that every windows noob can handle it... [06:37] coz that means that more people use linux, and that means more software (especially games) ;) [06:38] thesheep where do I read the right codepage ? I read that the default codepage for vfat is 437 === Toran [n=youllnev@unaffiliated/toran] has joined #xubuntu [06:40] I was editing my menu manually and I accidentally removed the settings menu. I can get an entry in the menu now for the settings control center, but I would like a submenu where I can choose what I want to configure specifically. How can I get this menu back? [06:40] there's now codepage option for vfat in man [06:41] Toran: just include a system menu somewhere [06:41] nicolah: sudo mount -t vfat -o codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:42] TheSheep: Which system menu? [06:43] same error [06:43] nicolah: you're sure it's the right partition? [06:43] nicolah: try fdisk -l /dev/sde [06:44] i still need a standalone launcherbar as a replacement for gdesklets... === Taram [n=chatzill@i577B8CA1.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:47] hello [06:48] I'd like to remove unused video drivers,but synaptics tells me it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all" [06:48] Are they all needed === krenjon_ [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu [] === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@229.24.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #xubuntu === krenjon [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === krenjon [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #xubuntu [] [06:53] Toran: you can examine the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ [06:53] Toran: that's what the menu is generated from === krenjon [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === vai_ro [n=noir@pool-72-73-104-203.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:54] how can i tell what resolution i'm currently running? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@217-162-77-97.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === krenjon [n=krenjon@pD9E41CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:57] vai_ro: hmm... xvidtune maybe? [06:58] i'll give it a try [06:58] HDisplayVDisplay [06:59] xvidtune worked thanks [07:00] TheSheep, it was a cf problem. I formatted the flashmemory and now it works normally [07:00] thanks === pjgat09 [n=pjgat09@69-182-192-243.adsl.snet.net] has joined #xubuntu === PegPeg [n=PegPeg@sge78-2-82-243-11-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === nicolah [n=nicola@151.53.194.47] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === nicolah [n=nicola@151.53.194.47] has joined #xubuntu === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:05] is there a way to have a visual tool for search in xubuntu ? [07:05] I tryed with some script but I couldn't get it to work [07:05] nicolah: yes, there is a number of them available [07:05] Hello,I'd like to remove unused X drivers,but when I use synaptic to remove it,it says it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all"...is it safe to remove them?? === ar3ac_ [n=ar3ac@host9-4-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu [07:05] nicolah: install tracker-search-tool [07:05] thanks [07:06] guigz: I think that 'xserver-xorg' is needeed, the other two are just empty [07:06] !info xorg [07:06] xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-119-250.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] !info xserver-xorg-video-all [07:06] xserver-xorg-video-all: the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB [07:06] !info xserver-xorg [07:06] xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB [07:07] !info [07:07] info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB [07:07] how do !info work? [07:07] hey TheSheep I searched for "tracker search" in synaptic but I couldn't find it, any hints [07:07] ? [07:07] guigz: the same as apt-cache search [07:08] nicolah: hmm.. maybe it's in feisty only... [07:08] So I can safely uninstall the drivers? [07:08] Ok, probably I'll wait till april [07:09] guigz: yes, just make sure you install xserver-xorg back [07:09] nicolah: I think there are debs for dapper and edgy too === Toran [n=youllnev@unaffiliated/toran] has left #xubuntu [] [07:10] nicolah: http://live.gnome.org/Tracker [07:11] nicolah: http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/ === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-254-148.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vai_ro [n=noir@pool-72-73-104-203.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:12] nicolah: you need to add trackerd to autostarted applications [07:13] which one should I download ? [07:13] http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/ === soweto76 [n=jack@d38-144-96.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:13] nicolah: 5.2.0 [07:14] nicolah: it still doesn't have all the features that are planned, but works pretty good [07:14] thanks [07:14] I don't have tracker in my autostart, it's running whenever tracker-search is run.. [07:15] kalikiana: then it has to re-check all the files that changed at the startup [07:15] kalikiana: if it runs all the time, it just updates the database when the files are written [07:16] kalikiana: much faster [07:16] hm damn... xfmedia won't work with shoutcast streams (not with all) [07:16] hm... seems very reasonable. did you just add trackerd to your autostart? [07:17] kalikiana: via settings->autostarted applications [07:17] kalikiana: it takse about 4MB of ram === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.241.192] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] i'll try, i am usually on 300/1000gb :P === guigz [n=gui@vaf26-3-88-162-209-35.fbx.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu [] [07:18] ^^ mb of course [07:18] O.o [07:18] shame [07:19] and still on xubuntu *lol* === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p548DCBC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] hallo [07:27] hi slow-motion [07:27] hi TheSheep [07:27] do i still need unrar when i have 7zip? [07:28] slow-motion: I think so [07:31] TheSheep you are right [07:31] that's good :) === hyper_ch [n=hyper@217-162-77-97.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] i dont know what is better bzip, bz2, tar+bzip, tar+bz2, rar, 7zip === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === orByt1 [n=polkadot@60.50.162.124] has joined #xubuntu === pjgat09 [n=pjgat09@69-182-192-243.adsl.snet.net] has joined #xubuntu === gabkdlly [n=gabriel@dslb-088-073-022-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.152.215.224] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === semi-fly [n=public@68.42.205.204] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-89-34-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === oem_ [n=oem@71-11-151-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:36] hi guys [07:37] hi === sk [n=skapism@vpn231a.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] Hello, I have a question, is anybody there? [07:41] !ask [07:41] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [07:42] Alright, I'm on xubuntu, and I have installed the gnome-core packet, how do I actually switch to gnome now? [07:43] You'll be having gdm, right? So you can choose a session. [07:43] What's that? (sorry, this is my first time running a Linux) === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.241.192] has joined #xubuntu [07:43] It's the login dialog. [07:43] Well, I don't know, I only installed the package. I could try to log-off. [07:44] If you log off you normally get to gdm == the login screen. [07:45] There you can choose a session, which may be gnome, xfce, a backup terminal or whatever you installed. === skapism_ [n=skapism@vpn037c.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #xubuntu === skapism_ is now known as sk3 [07:53] Alright, thanks for the help. === sk3 is now known as sk_3 [07:54] Hmm, I connect to the internet using the VPN client, is there anyway to automate it at least partly? === Pekke [n=peksu@a84-230-184-134.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === sk_3 [n=skapism@vpn037c.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has left #xubuntu ["Verlassend"] === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #xubuntu [08:14] Is it possible to restore the default applications menu in xubuntu. Somehow mine is gone, just a tiny dot appears. === nominal [n=10339B59@pool-71-251-34-146.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:15] Hello? [08:15] Hi [08:15] I have a question. === mAIJK- [i=mikke@c-5fbee355.038-249-74686e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [08:16] Powha: Right click, properties, use default desktop menu <-- See if this works. [08:16] !ask | nominal [08:16] nominal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [08:16] I can't find a driver for my wireless adaptor, what am I to do? [08:16] !wireless | nominal [08:16] nominal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [08:16] Alright, thanks! [08:19] somerville32: nope it's empty. [08:21] ~$ means? [08:21] nominal, It is a prompt. [08:21] Got it. [08:22] Powha, Interesting. Any idea how it got like this? === sk [n=skapism@vpn037c.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #xubuntu [08:22] How can I mount an external harddrive so that I can edit/create/delete files? [08:22] Xubuntu doesn't normally let me do it. [08:24] somerville32: hmm, I think I was in edit menu or something. when I clicked the "edit meny button" nothing happened. So I clicked it a couple of times, and suddenly it appered like 10 windows of the edit meny thing. I closed them and now it is like this. [08:24] sk: Is it a USB hard drive? [08:25] Powha: Maybe try restarting the applet? [08:25] Yup. [08:25] I have restarted the system since. [08:26] Powha: I may know how to solve your problem, just give me a while [08:26] sk: Then plugging it in should mount is automatically. === mark488 [n=ms@h-66-167-77-99.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:26] Well, it gets mounted, but I can't do anything other than play the files in the system. [08:26] No creating folders etc. [08:26] Or editing existing ones. [08:26] fijam: ok [08:28] When I go to its Permissions and try to change it to "Create and delete files", it returns the error "Couldn't change the permissions of 'Volume' because it is on a read-only disk." [08:28] sk: I've also had troubles with mounting external drives in read-write mode, as far as I remember you have to do this manually with some umask setting [08:29] Well, can I change my permissions in general so I can do more? [08:29] I mean, it's my system, I'm not gonna start to delete files I don't know, I don't know why xubuntu limits my actions so much. [08:30] Powha: open your terminal and type cd ~/.config/xfce4/desktop [08:30] sk: what filesystem is that drive? [08:30] how do I open the terminal? it was in the menu :p === xfceubuntu [n=pegger@82.131.223.30.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #xubuntu [08:31] sk: What version of Xubuntu do you use? 6.10 or 6.06? [08:31] mount says ntfs [08:31] Oh! [08:31] 6.10 [08:31] Thats why [08:31] You need to install ntfs drivers! :) [08:31] !ntfs | sk [08:31] sk: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse [08:31] /dev/sda1 on /media/Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) [08:31] in that case you'd need to use e.g fuse to mount it [08:31] yeah [08:31] I see [08:32] Powha: oh, it was indeed. You can add verva panel plugin with command line [08:32] and run Terminal from there [08:32] I will log out and do a terminal session. [08:33] there was a keybord shourtcut... [08:33] wait a sec [08:33] Well, how do I install those drivers / fuge? [08:33] fuse [08:33] The only thing written in that document that's related is "*At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written." [08:33] owha: i couldn't get that verva to work, can you tell me what to do, to get it to work like a terminal? [08:33] Powha: alt+ F2 [08:34] Powha, i ment, sorry [08:34] Powha: and then Terminal, xterm or whatever you use [08:35] got it? [08:35] It says the directory can't be found. [08:38] ok, so step by step [08:38] are you in your home directory? [08:39] Can't I get to the appmanager and just reinstall the meny? [08:40] ok, this should solve the problem [08:41] cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml [08:42] If I press alt+f2 I get "Run program" [08:42] ah "T"erminal (: [08:42] yes, type Terminal there [08:43] yeah, I got caught on that too [08:43] sk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access [08:43] a second too late [08:46] fijam: thnx! It worked :D [08:47] you're welcome :) === Pekke [n=peksu@a84-230-184-134.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu [08:51] Is there an easy way to troubleshoot which is causing loss of internet connection, software/hardware or something outside the computer? [08:54] What kind of connection is that? Ethernet, ADSL? How often does it happen? What are the symptoms? [08:56] lol === rhavenn [n=rhavenn@66.173.15.10] has joined #xubuntu === Zeqfreed [n=artem@217.151.225.44] has joined #xubuntu [09:29] Anyone know how I can enable my right alt key to behave like the left one? (a setting in xfce or x? preferably easily, without manually editing the keymap) === torrr [n=opera@bzq-88-155-111-87.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:34] hi, I am window shopping for a distro [09:35] I wonder if there is a difference between xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop? [09:35] beside the DE ? [09:37] sorry, seems like you hit a quiet time here [09:38] seems like it mark488 [09:38] my impression is that beneath the DE, things are similar [09:38] it is hard to tell... [09:39] I think things can be added to the compilation to support features perhaps [09:39] but I am not sure [09:39] xfce / gnome .... speed difference [09:40] I've downloaded ubuntu-desktop, I think I could install xfce on top of it if I wish === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-186-99-217-196.adsl196-12.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === Gryfft [n=gryfft@209.184.165.20] has joined #xubuntu [09:41] I am just wondering since I want a multi-user environment when many users are accessing the ubuntu-server via X [09:41] via network [09:41] LAN [09:42] and so I want it to be responsive for 15 users === adamwest_ [n=adamwest@89-138-77-35.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #xubuntu [09:43] so you're desiring greater speed or functionality? [09:43] hey guys, is the new xfce available for ubuntu? [09:44] adamwest_, It is available in the development version, Feisty Fawn [09:45] but what if i want to try it out on my current edge? [09:45] *edgy [09:46] mark488: I desire grater speed, since the DE will probably be the client's own DE. [09:46] mark488: and the client would probably run rootless [09:47] mark488: and there would probably be many clients === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:47] mark488: but I also want to be able to administrate the server easyly === nicolah [n=nicola@151.53.194.47] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:48] torrr, so you're looking to setup an LTSP? [09:48] somerville32: from what I understood LTSP don't have client apps for other OSs [09:49] somerville32: otherwize I would have tried it [09:49] somerville32: though I didn't get into it deeply so I may be wrong [09:49] torrr: very cool. beyond me as a linux newbie === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu [09:49] mark488: you make me feel good about my self :) [09:49] torrr: Xubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except for the default packages installed. [09:50] guys is it safe to install the graphic installation of the new xubuntu on ubuntu edgy? === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.250.138] has joined #xubuntu [09:51] somerville32: can you give me example for packages that come with xubuntu? [09:51] adamwest_, No, it is not "safe". [09:51] adamwest_, i dont know yet, i tried and b0rked my system, but i am working to fix it, there is a forum thread and they didnt have problems [09:51] torrr: Xfce4 instead of gnome [09:51] somerville32: I can add that in later in ubuntu right? [09:52] somerville32: so how come they just let people download it as "stable release"? [09:52] adamwest_, how knowledgeable are you with ubuntu/linux/xfce [09:52] torrr: Yes. You can install any packages you like. [09:52] adamwest_, Why not? [09:52] bigfuzzyjesus: i juststarted using linux a week or ago or so [09:52] :) [09:53] somerville32: .. u said it might not be safe [09:53] adamwest_, In the linux world, most people use package management. [09:53] adamwest_, ie. Your distro packages and ensures that the software will work with your system [09:54] adamwest_, It is possible to download and install what ever you want but it is better to use the package management system. [09:54] oh, ok [09:55] btw just out of curiosity, how do you run ".run" files? [09:55] adamwest_, Xfce 4.4.0 will be available in Feisty which will be released in April. [09:55] adamwest_, you could install but in your situation i dont think i would, as you are a new user etc. etc., BUT have fun with xubuntu! [09:55] somerville32: D: that's a long time from now ^_^ [09:55] adamwest_, However, there isn't a big difference between Xfce 3.9.9.2 [09:55] bigfuzzyjesus: thanks but i'm currently a gnome user :) [09:56] adamwest_, chmod +x .run [09:56] thanks bigfuzzyjesus [09:56] sudo ./.run [09:56] ! ok ok :) [09:56] Sorry, I don't know anything about ok ok :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:56] bigfuzzyjesus, You could also tell him how to do it through Thunar [09:57] bigfuzzyjesus, Some people don't like using the command line [09:57] no it's ok, somerville32 [09:57] adamwest_, you could do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and get xcfe 3.9.9.2 for your desktop === bigfuzzyjesus nudges somerville32 i think he wants us to shut up :) [09:58] isn't the last version 4.2? [09:58] somerville32, i like using the command line... its so much quicker, lightweight, functional etc., its like the swiss-army knife of programs :) [09:58] adamwest_, no [09:58] adamwest_, The latest version is 4.4 [09:59] no i meant the LAST version... as before 4.4 . or my english can be bad sometimes :P [09:59] There are two branches [09:59] 4.2 and 4.4 [09:59] However, 4.2 had it's last release the other week [09:59] yeah i saw that [09:59] (sorry to jump in) I've been trying to make a broadcom card work. Hence, ndiswrapper. I've done everything exactly as the walkthroughs say to do, but ndiswrapper -l gives me this message: bcmwl5 : driver installed device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) [10:00] so the latest xubuntu was actually 3.9.9.2? [10:00] *xfce i mean [10:00] Eh, that error message didn't look so big when I typed it. Sorry. [10:00] adamwest_, I think it might have actually been 3.9.9.1 [10:00] ie. 4.4RC1 [10:00] somerville32: lol kinda old, aint it? :P [10:01] i think i already asked that sometime, but is there a way to make sure linux is performing at its best? i mean nothing slows it down and stuff (still has windows issues in my head) [10:01] *have [10:02] I've never done anything special === ciscosurfer [n=magic@216-80-124-12.snb-bsr1.chi-snb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:02] because i feel like it's kinda slow D: mostly firefox [10:02] it's not supposed to be slow .. even if i dont have the strongest comp [10:03] under dmesg it says loadndisdriver failed. which according to the wiki means I'm using an old kernel? [10:03] sorry to derail. [10:05] I'm using ndiswrapper 1.34... did I compile ndiswrapper wrong? [10:06] Gryfft, I'd wait until Maxamillion get heres. He has lots of experience with Wireless. [10:06] Gryfft, i have never used a linux computer without ethernet, for me there is really no need, until i get my laptop [10:06] adamwest_, What version of Firefox are you using? [10:06] adamwest_, have you thought about swiftfox [10:06] 2.0.0.1, latest [10:07] never tried that [10:07] I'll drop back in in an hour or two, thanks anyway. I've now managed to make xubuntu forget my wireless card even exists... I'll keep troubleshooting, thanks. === Gryfft [n=gryfft@209.184.165.20] has left #xubuntu [] [10:07] adamwest_, it is optimized for what ever hardware you have and for linux :) === bur[n] er takes the feisty plunge to feel 4.4.0's goodness :) [10:08] swiftfox is automatic adjusting? === frankabel [n=frankabe@200.55.139.22] has joined #xubuntu [10:09] adamwest_, How much processing power do you have and how much ram? [10:09] I have a 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram and Firefox is alright for me [10:09] 1300mhz, 512ram [10:09] lol === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-102-177-172.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:10] why lol :D [10:10] I just install the fileinfo php module with "pecl install fileinfo"... but it don't show installed... I found on the web that I must enable it on the php.ini file [10:11] Hi if I installed my xubuntu in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do? [10:11] somerville32, why the laugh? :P [10:11] exist a command to enable such extension? or is just editing the php.ini === mark488 [n=ms@h-66-167-77-99.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === mark488 [n=ms@h-66-167-77-99.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has left #xubuntu [] [10:12] ;] === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu [10:13] nu why somerville32! :) [10:13] #join #xubuntu-offtopic === mark488 [n=ms@h-66-167-77-99.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:14] n8 [10:15] Hi if I installed my system in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do? [10:16] please somerville32!!! :) i need heeeeelp [10:17] adamwest_, What do you need help with? [10:17] somerville32: about swiftfox... [10:17] adamwest_, I've never used it [10:17] somerville32: and why did u laugh at me ^_^ [10:17] !swiftfox | adamwest_ [10:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [10:17] hehe [10:18] adamwest_, http://getswiftfox.com/ [10:18] thanks [10:18] you're not going to tellme why u laughed... do you :) [10:19] Also see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142798 [10:21] where do i find my system processor stats on linux? device manager? (to make sure what i have) === Deech [n=Deech@ded140223210.yhti.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:25] umm -- how do i find my processor info ? === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === Solsol [n=corey___@28.218.63.66.adsl.dyn.setel.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:28] Solsol: So, you're having problems with your Internet in Xubuntu? === fxr [n=fxr@89.240.156.219] has joined #xubuntu [10:28] Can someone help me make my internet connection work in xubuntu? === PegPeg [n=PegPeg@sge78-2-82-243-11-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:29] n ya. [10:29] i get a "network is down error" [10:30] when i try to use pppoeconf to set it up [10:30] how safe is sudo apt-get auto-remove ?? I wanna clean up my xubuntu install so i have installed only what i need or am actively using... [10:31] Solsol: What kind of connection do you? [10:31] Solsol: ADSL, Cable? [10:32]