[05:32] (mAIJK/#xubuntu) Where do I find the hardware monitor in xfce?
[05:33] <bur[n] er> ?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> to tell you what exactly?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> there's xfce4-taskmanager  if that's what you're after.... or add the applet to your bar
[05:34] <Gryfft> I
[05:34] <Gryfft> sorry, accidentally hit enter.
[05:37] <Gryfft> I'm running Xubuntu on a compaq presario v2000. I'm trying to get the wireless to work- as I understand it, broadcom has refused to release anything so I'm forced to use ndiswrapper. I think I've done everything right, but modprobe doesn't give a message when I run modprobe ndiswrapper, and the light on my wireless isn't turning on. I've followed a few separate tutorials to get where I am now, but I can't seem to get my wireless card to activate. Furthermo
[05:56] <synic> Gryfft: is this the 4139 card?
[05:56] <synic> er... 4319
[06:01] <bur[n] er> if it is a 43xx... there are packages out there made by cafuego that work
[06:09] <pjgat09> hi again
[06:14] <bur[n] er> anyone know if xfce 4.4 is going to be backported to edgy now that it's released?
[06:15] <TheSheep> bur[n] er: thats unlike
[06:16] <TheSheep> bur[n] er: but you never know
[06:16] <TheSheep> bur[n] er: I think it'd be more sense to backport it to dapper though -- edgy is not LTS
[06:17] <pjgat09> Hi TheSheep, i think i found (one of) the reason why xubuntu doesnt work too well on my computer
[06:17] <pjgat09> windows lied, i only have 128mb ram
[06:17] <TheSheep> pjgat09: why?
[06:17] <TheSheep> pjgat09: well, 128MB should be enough to use it
[06:18] <TheSheep> pjgat09: not enough for the livecd installer, though
[06:18] <pjgat09> yeh, that might explain that
[06:18] <TheSheep> pjgat09: did you use the alternate cd?
[06:18] <pjgat09> yes, i did
[06:18] <pjgat09> text mode install
[06:18] <bur[n] er> xfce should work on 128... but don't open firefox :)
[06:19] <TheSheep> pjgat09: still no good?
[06:19] <pjgat09> what happens? :P
[06:19] <pjgat09> yeh, the alternate cd did me no good
[06:19] <TheSheep> pjgat09: nothing spectacular, it's just slow
[06:19] <pjgat09> the x server remains unstable
[06:19] <bur[n] er> pjgat09, just slooooooooow... dillo might work bettter
[06:19] <pjgat09> or just slow, maybe its just slow
[06:20] <pjgat09> would slow loading cause the x server, along with most of the rest of the install to freeze?
[06:20] <bur[n] er> proly not
[06:20] <guigz> hello
[06:20] <pjgat09> thats what happens to me
[06:21] <bur[n] er> wow... very odd... this a laptop by chance?
[06:21] <pjgat09> nope, desktop
[06:21] <guigz> is there a way to make xubuntu basic install smaller?
[06:21] <bur[n] er> sorry pjgat09, wish I knew
[06:21] <pjgat09> i got the x server to load yesterday, but when i tried to open firefox, the cursor disappeared, and i couldnt do anything
[06:21] <TheSheep> pjgat09: do you have a swap partition set up?
[06:21] <bur[n] er> pjgat09, maybe it's swapping to your hard drive and your hard drive is bad?
[06:22] <krenjon> ah finally there is the transparent terminal in xfce ;)
[06:22] <pjgat09> i believe i have a swap partition setup
[06:22] <pjgat09> its a 4gb HDD, kinda old
[06:22] <pjgat09> i can see it being bad
[06:22] <krenjon> Is there another starterbar besides this gdesklets plugin?
[06:23] <pjgat09> i suppose i could buy more ram, thats no big deal
[06:23] <pjgat09> ill just have to dig through IDE and other misc cables to find the slot :P
[06:24] <guigz> is there a way to remove gnumeric and abiword from xubuntu?Each time I try to remove it using synaptic,it says it will uninstall xubuntu desktop...
[06:24] <pjgat09> ill worry more about getting an install working later, i still have to help my family move files they want off of this computer
[06:25] <TheSheep> guigz: don't worry, xubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package to keep it all together
[06:25] <TheSheep> guigz: you can safely remove it
[06:26] <TheSheep> guigz: it's empty
[06:26] <guigz> cool
[06:26] <krenjon> and next time you install a package which depends on gnumeric, it will get reinstalled ;)
[06:27] <guigz> In fact I installed xubuntu on a 2GB usb key and I'm quite short with disk space.Do I need swap to,since I have 1GB Ram?
[06:27] <nicolah> Hi guys, what is the path of the trashcan ? I Can't find it
[06:27] <TheSheep> nicolah: ~/.Trash or ~/.local/share/trash
[06:27] <krenjon> it's always good to got a bit swap... 256 mb should be enough if you got 1gb ram
[06:27] <TheSheep> nicolah: but the files are not just kept as files in it
[06:28] <nicolah> thanks
[06:28] <nicolah> /home/nicola/.local/share/Trash/files
[06:28] <guigz> I have 128mb and it's fine...
[06:28] <TheSheep> nicolah: freedesktop.org has a full spec, if you're interested ;)
[06:30] <guigz> but I was just wondering whether I should disable it since it's located on an USB key which is quite slow....
[06:30] <krenjon> i don't know which apps, but i read something about some ones which needs a swap...
[06:31] <krenjon> so maybe you run in trouble, maybe not
[06:31] <nicolah> thanks TheSheep, I have also another problem with xubuntu
[06:31] <nicolah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2878/
[06:32] <nicolah> I'm not able to mount this compact flash (it work normally with other cf)
[06:32] <TheSheep> nicolah: maybe you need to specify codepage?
[06:32] <krenjon> hm is there a xchat with compiz transparancy enable?
[06:32] <TheSheep> nicolah: man mount  and then search for vfat
[06:33] <TheSheep> krenjon: just use irssi in a transparent terminal :)
[06:33] <krenjon> *laugh*
[06:33] <krenjon> thanks for the good tip TheSheep ;)
[06:33] <krenjon> and i can't say it often enough - i love xubuntu feisty ;)
[06:34] <TheSheep> yes, it's nice
[06:34] <krenjon> some beauty bugs still there...
[06:34] <krenjon> like desktop-effects don't recongise xfwm...
[06:34] <krenjon> and no autoconfig for this XRGB nvidia thing...
[06:34] <TheSheep> krenjon: what's desktop-effects?
[06:34] <krenjon> desktop-effects is that plugin which enables easily compiz
[06:35] <krenjon> or not really plugin - it's a simple windows with 1 button and 2 checkboxes ;)
[06:35] <TheSheep> krenjon: well, eaither you use compiz or xfwm4
[06:35] <krenjon> yes but with desktop-effects you can put it on or off
[06:35] <krenjon> and if you want to put it off, it looks for metacity and not xfwm4
[06:35] <nicolah> TheSheep, there's something wront in this syntax
[06:35] <nicolah>  sudo mount -t vfat codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova
[06:36] <TheSheep> krenjon: use the beryl-manager instead :)
[06:36] <krenjon> hehe i don't want to use beryl ;)
[06:36] <TheSheep> krenjon: it can be configured to use whatver wm you want
[06:36] <krenjon> i like to use what's given with the "original" repos
[06:37] <krenjon> i know, i'm just talking about beauty bugs :) i know the basics of linux and don't have to use that tools, but i like it easy and confortable ;)
[06:37] <krenjon> and i love it, when linux comes that easy that every windows noob can handle it...
[06:37] <krenjon> coz that means that more people use linux, and that means more software (especially games) ;)
[06:38] <nicolah> thesheep where do I read the right codepage ? I read that the default codepage for vfat is 437
[06:40] <Toran> I was editing my menu manually and I accidentally removed the settings menu. I can get an entry in the menu now for the settings control center, but I would like a submenu where I can choose what I want to configure specifically. How can I get this menu back?
[06:40] <nicolah> there's now codepage option for vfat in man
[06:41] <TheSheep> Toran: just include a system menu somewhere
[06:41] <TheSheep> nicolah: sudo mount -t vfat -o codepage=47 /dev/sde1 /home/nicola/Desktop/prova
[06:42] <Toran> TheSheep: Which system menu?
[06:43] <nicolah> same error
[06:43] <TheSheep> nicolah: you're sure it's the right partition?
[06:43] <TheSheep> nicolah: try fdisk -l /dev/sde
[06:44] <krenjon> i still need a standalone launcherbar as a replacement for gdesklets...
[06:47] <guigz> hello
[06:48] <guigz> I'd like to remove unused video drivers,but synaptics tells me it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all"
[06:48] <guigz> Are they all needed
[06:53] <TheSheep> Toran: you can examine the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/
[06:53] <TheSheep> Toran: that's what the menu is generated from
[06:54] <vai_ro> how can i tell what resolution i'm currently running?
[06:57] <TheSheep> vai_ro: hmm... xvidtune maybe?
[06:58] <vai_ro> i'll give it a try
[06:58] <TheSheep> HDisplayVDisplay
[06:59] <vai_ro> xvidtune worked thanks
[07:00] <nicolah> TheSheep, it was a cf problem. I formatted the flashmemory and now it works normally
[07:00] <nicolah> thanks
[07:05] <nicolah> is there a way to have a visual tool for search in xubuntu ?
[07:05] <nicolah> I tryed with some script but I couldn't get it to work
[07:05] <TheSheep> nicolah: yes, there is a number of them available
[07:05] <guigz> Hello,I'd like to remove unused  X drivers,but when I use synaptic to remove it,it says it will remove "xorg" "xserver-xorg" "xserver-xorg-video-all"...is it safe to remove them??
[07:05] <TheSheep> nicolah: install tracker-search-tool
[07:05] <nicolah> thanks
[07:06] <TheSheep> guigz: I think that 'xserver-xorg' is needeed, the other two are just empty
[07:06] <TheSheep> !info xorg
[07:06] <ubotu> xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:06] <TheSheep> !info xserver-xorg-video-all
[07:06] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-all: the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:06] <TheSheep> !info xserver-xorg
[07:06] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[07:07] <guigz> !info
[07:07] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[07:07] <guigz> how do !info work?
[07:07] <nicolah> hey TheSheep I searched for "tracker search" in synaptic but I couldn't find it, any hints
[07:07] <nicolah> ?
[07:07] <TheSheep> guigz: the same as apt-cache search <foo>
[07:08] <TheSheep> nicolah: hmm.. maybe it's in feisty only...
[07:08] <guigz> So I can safely uninstall the drivers?
[07:08] <nicolah> Ok, probably I'll wait till april
[07:09] <TheSheep> guigz: yes, just make sure you install xserver-xorg back
[07:09] <TheSheep> nicolah: I think there are debs for dapper and edgy too
[07:10] <TheSheep> nicolah: http://live.gnome.org/Tracker
[07:11] <TheSheep> nicolah: http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/
[07:12] <TheSheep> nicolah: you need to add trackerd to autostarted applications
[07:13] <nicolah> which one should I download ?
[07:13] <nicolah> http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/DEB/Edgy/
[07:13] <TheSheep> nicolah: 5.2.0
[07:14] <TheSheep> nicolah: it still doesn't have all the features that are planned, but works pretty good
[07:14] <nicolah> thanks
[07:14] <kalikiana> I don't have tracker in my autostart, it's running whenever tracker-search is run..
[07:15] <TheSheep> kalikiana: then it has to re-check all the files that changed at the startup
[07:15] <TheSheep> kalikiana: if it runs all the time, it just updates the database when the files are written
[07:16] <TheSheep> kalikiana: much faster
[07:16] <krenjon> hm damn... xfmedia won't work with shoutcast streams (not with all)
[07:16] <kalikiana> hm... seems very reasonable. did you just add trackerd to your autostart?
[07:17] <TheSheep> kalikiana: via settings->autostarted applications
[07:17] <TheSheep> kalikiana: it takse about 4MB of ram
[07:18] <kalikiana> i'll try, i am usually on 300/1000gb :P
[07:18] <kalikiana> ^^ mb of course
[07:18] <TheSheep> O.o
[07:18] <TheSheep> shame
[07:19] <kalikiana> and still on xubuntu *lol*
[07:26] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:27] <TheSheep> hi slow-motion
[07:27] <slow-motion> hi TheSheep
[07:27] <slow-motion> do i still need unrar when i have 7zip?
[07:28] <TheSheep> slow-motion: I think so
[07:31] <slow-motion> TheSheep you are right
[07:31] <TheSheep> that's good :)
[07:32] <slow-motion> i dont know what is better bzip, bz2, tar+bzip, tar+bz2, rar, 7zip
[07:36] <orByt1> hi guys
[07:37] <kalikiana> hi
[07:41] <sk> Hello, I have a question, is anybody there?
[07:41] <kalikiana> !ask
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <sk> Alright, I'm on xubuntu, and I have installed the gnome-core packet, how do I actually switch to gnome now?
[07:43] <kalikiana> You'll be having gdm, right? So you can choose a session.
[07:43] <sk> What's that? (sorry, this is my first time running a Linux)
[07:43] <kalikiana> It's the login dialog.
[07:43] <sk> Well, I don't know, I only installed the package. I could try to log-off.
[07:44] <kalikiana> If you log off you normally get to gdm == the login screen.
[07:45] <kalikiana> There you can choose a session, which may be gnome, xfce, a backup terminal or whatever you installed.
[07:53] <sk3> Alright, thanks for the help.
[07:54] <sk_3> Hmm, I connect to the internet using the VPN client, is there anyway to automate it at least partly?
[08:14] <Powha> Is it possible to restore the default applications menu in xubuntu. Somehow mine is gone, just a tiny dot appears.
[08:15] <nominal> Hello?
[08:15] <somerville32> Hi
[08:15] <nominal> I have a question.
[08:16] <somerville32> Powha: Right click, properties, use default desktop menu <-- See if this works.
[08:16] <somerville32> !ask | nominal
[08:16] <ubotu> nominal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:16] <nominal> I can't find a driver for my wireless adaptor, what am I to do?
[08:16] <somerville32> !wireless | nominal
[08:16] <ubotu> nominal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:16] <nominal> Alright, thanks!
[08:19] <Powha> somerville32: nope it's empty.
[08:21] <nominal> ~$ means?
[08:21] <somerville32> nominal, It is a prompt.
[08:21] <nominal> Got it.
[08:22] <somerville32> Powha, Interesting. Any idea how it got like this?
[08:22] <sk> How can I mount an external harddrive so that I can edit/create/delete files?
[08:22] <sk> Xubuntu doesn't normally let me do it.
[08:24] <Powha> somerville32: hmm, I think I was in edit menu or something. when I clicked the "edit meny button" nothing happened. So I clicked it a couple of times, and suddenly it appered like 10 windows of the edit meny thing. I closed them and now it is like this.
[08:24] <somerville32> sk: Is it a USB hard drive?
[08:25] <somerville32> Powha: Maybe try restarting the applet?
[08:25] <sk> Yup.
[08:25] <Powha> I have restarted the system since.
[08:26] <fijam> Powha: I may know how to solve your problem, just give me a while
[08:26] <somerville32> sk: Then plugging it in should mount is automatically.
[08:26] <sk> Well, it gets mounted, but I can't do anything other than play the files in the system.
[08:26] <sk> No creating folders etc.
[08:26] <sk> Or editing existing ones.
[08:26] <Powha> fijam: ok
[08:28] <sk> When I go to its Permissions and try to change it to "Create and delete files", it returns the error "Couldn't change the permissions of 'Volume' because it is on a read-only disk."
[08:28] <fijam> sk: I've also had troubles with mounting external drives in read-write mode, as far as I remember you have to do this manually with some umask setting
[08:29] <sk> Well, can I change my permissions in general so I can do more?
[08:29] <sk> I mean, it's my system, I'm not gonna start to delete files I don't know, I don't know why xubuntu limits my actions so much.
[08:30] <fijam> Powha: open  your terminal and type cd ~/.config/xfce4/desktop
[08:30] <fijam> sk: what filesystem is that drive?
[08:30] <Powha> how do I open the terminal? it was in the menu :p
[08:31] <somerville32> sk: What version of Xubuntu do you use? 6.10 or 6.06?
[08:31] <sk> mount says ntfs
[08:31] <somerville32> Oh!
[08:31] <sk> 6.10
[08:31] <somerville32> Thats why
[08:31] <somerville32> You need to install ntfs drivers! :)
[08:31] <somerville32> !ntfs | sk
[08:31] <ubotu> sk: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:31] <sk> /dev/sda1 on /media/Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:31] <fijam> in that case you'd need to use e.g fuse to mount it
[08:31] <fijam> yeah
[08:31] <sk> I see
[08:32] <fijam> Powha: oh, it was indeed. You can add verva panel plugin with command line
[08:32] <fijam> and run Terminal from there
[08:32] <Powha> I will log out and do a terminal session.
[08:33] <fijam> there was a keybord shourtcut...
[08:33] <fijam> wait a sec
[08:33] <sk> Well, how do I install those drivers / fuge?
[08:33] <sk> fuse
[08:33] <sk> The only thing written in that document that's related is "*At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written."
[08:33] <Pekke> owha: i couldn't get that verva to work, can you tell me what to do, to get it to work like a terminal?
[08:33] <fijam> Powha: alt+ F2
[08:34] <Pekke> Powha, i ment, sorry
[08:34] <fijam> Powha: and then Terminal, xterm or whatever you use
[08:35] <fijam> got it?
[08:35] <Powha> It says the directory can't be found.
[08:38] <fijam> ok, so step by step
[08:38] <fijam> are you in your home directory?
[08:39] <Powha> Can't I get to the appmanager and just reinstall the meny?
[08:40] <fijam> ok, this should solve the problem
[08:41] <fijam> cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[08:42] <Powha> If I press alt+f2 I get "Run program"
[08:42] <Powha> ah "T"erminal (:
[08:42] <fijam> yes, type Terminal there
[08:43] <fijam> yeah, I got caught on that too
[08:43] <fijam> sk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[08:43] <fijam> a second too late
[08:46] <Powha> fijam: thnx! It worked :D
[08:47] <fijam> you're welcome :)
[08:51] <Ramla> Is there an easy way to troubleshoot which is causing loss of internet connection, software/hardware or something outside the computer?
[08:54] <fijam> What kind of connection is that? Ethernet, ADSL? How often does it happen? What are the symptoms?
[08:56] <pjgat09> lol
[09:29] <mark488> Anyone know how I can enable my right alt key to behave like the left one?  (a setting in xfce or x? preferably easily, without manually editing the keymap)
[09:34] <torrr> hi, I am window shopping for a distro
[09:35] <torrr> I wonder if there is a difference between xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop?
[09:35] <torrr> beside the DE ?
[09:37] <mark488> sorry, seems like you hit a quiet time here
[09:38] <torrr> seems like it mark488
[09:38] <mark488> my impression is that beneath the DE, things are similar
[09:38] <torrr> it is hard to tell...
[09:39] <torrr> I think things can be added to the compilation to support features perhaps
[09:39] <torrr> but I am not sure
[09:39] <mark488> xfce / gnome ....   speed difference
[09:40] <torrr> I've downloaded ubuntu-desktop, I think I could install xfce on top of it if I wish
[09:41] <torrr> I am just wondering since I want a multi-user environment when many users are accessing the ubuntu-server via X
[09:41] <torrr> via network
[09:41] <torrr> LAN
[09:42] <torrr> and so I want it to be responsive for 15 users
[09:43] <mark488> so you're desiring greater speed or functionality?
[09:43] <adamwest_> hey guys, is the new xfce available for ubuntu?
[09:44] <somerville32> adamwest_, It is available in the development version, Feisty Fawn
[09:45] <adamwest_> but what if i want to try it out on my current edge?
[09:45] <adamwest_> *edgy
[09:46] <torrr> mark488: I desire grater speed, since the DE will probably be the client's own DE.
[09:46] <torrr> mark488: and the client would probably run rootless
[09:47] <torrr> mark488: and there would probably be many clients
[09:47] <torrr> mark488: but I also want to be able to administrate the server easyly
[09:48] <somerville32> torrr, so you're looking to setup an LTSP?
[09:48] <torrr> somerville32: from what I understood LTSP don't have client apps for other OSs
[09:49] <torrr> somerville32: otherwize I would have tried it
[09:49] <torrr> somerville32: though I didn't get into it deeply so I may be wrong
[09:49] <mark488> torrr: very cool.   beyond me as a linux newbie
[09:49] <torrr> mark488: you make me feel good about my self :)
[09:49] <somerville32> torrr: Xubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except for the default packages installed.
[09:50] <adamwest_> guys is it safe to install the graphic installation of the new xubuntu on ubuntu edgy?
[09:51] <torrr> somerville32: can you give me example for packages that come with xubuntu?
[09:51] <somerville32> adamwest_, No, it is not "safe".
[09:51] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, i dont know yet, i tried and b0rked my system, but i am working to fix it, there is a forum thread and they didnt have problems
[09:51] <somerville32> torrr: Xfce4 instead of gnome
[09:51] <torrr> somerville32: I can add that in later in ubuntu right?
[09:52] <adamwest_> somerville32: so how come they just let people download it as "stable release"?
[09:52] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, how knowledgeable are you with ubuntu/linux/xfce
[09:52] <somerville32> torrr: Yes. You can install any packages you like.
[09:52] <somerville32> adamwest_, Why not?
[09:52] <adamwest_> bigfuzzyjesus: i juststarted using linux a week or ago or so
[09:52] <adamwest_> :)
[09:53] <adamwest_> somerville32: .. u said it might not be safe
[09:53] <somerville32> adamwest_, In the linux world, most people use package management.
[09:53] <somerville32> adamwest_, ie. Your distro packages and ensures that the software will work with your system
[09:54] <somerville32> adamwest_, It is possible to download and install what ever you want  but it is better to use the package management system.
[09:54] <adamwest_> oh, ok
[09:55] <adamwest_> btw just out of curiosity, how do you run ".run" files?
[09:55] <somerville32> adamwest_, Xfce 4.4.0 will be available in Feisty which will be released in April.
[09:55] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, you could install but in your situation i dont think i would, as you are a new user  etc. etc., BUT have fun with xubuntu!
[09:55] <adamwest_> somerville32: D: that's a long time from now ^_^
[09:55] <somerville32> adamwest_, However, there isn't a big difference between Xfce 3.9.9.2
[09:55] <adamwest_> bigfuzzyjesus: thanks but i'm currently a gnome user :)
[09:56] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_,  chmod +x <package name>.run
[09:56] <adamwest_> thanks bigfuzzyjesus
[09:56] <bigfuzzyjesus> sudo ./<package name>.run
[09:56] <adamwest_> ! ok ok :)
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok ok :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, You could also tell him how to do it through Thunar
[09:57] <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, Some people don't like using the command line
[09:57] <adamwest_> no it's ok, somerville32
[09:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, you could do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and get xcfe 3.9.9.2 for your desktop
[09:58] <adamwest_> isn't the last version 4.2?
[09:58] <bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, i like using the command line... its so much quicker, lightweight, functional etc., its like the swiss-army knife of programs :)
[09:58] <somerville32> adamwest_, no
[09:58] <somerville32> adamwest_, The latest version is 4.4
[09:59] <adamwest_> no i meant the LAST version... as before 4.4 . or my english can be bad sometimes :P
[09:59] <somerville32> There are two branches
[09:59] <somerville32> 4.2 and 4.4
[09:59] <somerville32> However, 4.2 had it's last release the other week
[09:59] <adamwest_> yeah i saw that
[09:59] <Gryfft> (sorry to jump in) I've been trying to make a broadcom card work. Hence, ndiswrapper. I've done everything exactly as the walkthroughs say to do, but ndiswrapper -l gives me this message: bcmwl5 : driver installed device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[10:00] <adamwest_> so the latest xubuntu was actually 3.9.9.2?
[10:00] <adamwest_> *xfce i mean
[10:00] <Gryfft> Eh, that error message didn't look so big when I typed it. Sorry.
[10:00] <somerville32> adamwest_, I think it might have actually been 3.9.9.1
[10:00] <somerville32> ie. 4.4RC1
[10:00] <adamwest_> somerville32: lol kinda old, aint it? :P
[10:01] <adamwest_> i think i already asked that sometime, but is there a way to make sure linux is performing at its best? i mean nothing slows it down and stuff (still has windows issues in my head)
[10:01] <adamwest_> *have
[10:02] <somerville32> I've never done anything special
[10:02] <adamwest_> because i feel like it's kinda slow D: mostly firefox
[10:02] <adamwest_> it's not supposed to be slow .. even if i dont have the strongest comp
[10:03] <Gryfft> under dmesg it says loadndisdriver failed. which according to the wiki means I'm using an old kernel?
[10:03] <Gryfft> sorry to derail.
[10:05] <Gryfft> I'm using ndiswrapper 1.34... did I compile ndiswrapper wrong?
[10:06] <somerville32> Gryfft, I'd wait until Maxamillion get heres. He has lots of experience with Wireless.
[10:06] <bigfuzzyjesus> Gryfft, i have never used a linux computer without ethernet, for me there is really no need, until i get my laptop
[10:06] <somerville32> adamwest_, What version of Firefox are you using?
[10:06] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, have you thought about swiftfox
[10:06] <adamwest_> 2.0.0.1, latest
[10:07] <adamwest_> never tried that
[10:07] <Gryfft> I'll drop back in in an hour or two, thanks anyway. I've now managed to make xubuntu forget my wireless card even exists... I'll keep troubleshooting, thanks.
[10:07] <bigfuzzyjesus> adamwest_, it is optimized for what ever hardware you have and for linux :)
[10:08] <adamwest_> swiftfox is automatic adjusting?
[10:09] <somerville32> adamwest_, How much processing power do you have and how much ram?
[10:09] <somerville32> I have a 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram and Firefox is alright for me
[10:09] <adamwest_> 1300mhz, 512ram
[10:09] <somerville32> lol
[10:10] <adamwest_> why lol :D
[10:10] <frankabel> I just install the fileinfo php module with "pecl install fileinfo"... but it don't show installed... I found on the web that I must enable it on the php.ini file
[10:11] <g333k_work> Hi if I installed my xubuntu in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do?
[10:11] <adamwest_> somerville32, why the laugh? :P
[10:11] <frankabel> exist a command to enable such extension? or is just editing the php.ini
[10:12] <somerville32> ;] 
[10:13] <adamwest_> nu why somerville32! :)
[10:13] <bigfuzzyjesus> #join #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <slow-motion> n8
[10:15] <g333k_work> Hi if I installed my system in english and now I want to set it up to spanish, what do I have to do?
[10:16] <adamwest_> please somerville32!!! :) i need heeeeelp
[10:17] <somerville32> adamwest_, What do you need help with?
[10:17] <adamwest_> somerville32: about swiftfox...
[10:17] <somerville32> adamwest_, I've never used it
[10:17] <adamwest_> somerville32: and why did u laugh at me ^_^
[10:17] <somerville32> !swiftfox | adamwest_
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <somerville32> hehe
[10:18] <somerville32> adamwest_, http://getswiftfox.com/
[10:18] <adamwest_> thanks
[10:18] <adamwest_> you're not going to tellme why u laughed... do you :)
[10:19] <somerville32> Also see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142798
[10:21] <adamwest_> where do i find my system processor stats on linux? device manager? (to make sure what i have)
[10:25] <adamwest_> umm -- how do i find my processor info ?
[10:28] <somerville32> Solsol: So, you're having problems with your Internet in Xubuntu?
[10:28] <Solsol> Can someone help me make my internet connection work in xubuntu?
[10:29] <Solsol> n ya.
[10:29] <Solsol> i get a "network is down error"
[10:30] <Solsol> when i try to use pppoeconf to set it up
[10:30] <fxr> how safe is sudo apt-get auto-remove ?? I wanna clean up my xubuntu install so i have installed only what i need or am actively using...
[10:31] <somerville32> Solsol: What kind of connection do you?
[10:31] <somerville32> Solsol: ADSL, Cable?
[10:32] <Solsol> I am trying to set it up thru my dsl modem currently
[10:32] <somerville32> Solsol: Can you please pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[10:32] <somerville32> !pastebin
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:33] <Solsol> k.
[10:33] <Solsol> i can do that in windows right?
[10:34] <Solsol> !pastebin
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <somerville32> Oh right
[10:34] <somerville32> Unfortunately you'll need to get that info from your Xubuntu install.
[10:34] <somerville32> Are you dual booting?
[10:35] <Solsol> yes.
[10:35] <adamwest_> guys where can i find my computer processor info?
[10:35] <somerville32> adamwest_, There are some applets you can use and you can look in /proc/cpuinfo
[10:35] <Solsol> i can get that indo and be back in a few minutes.
[10:35] <Solsol> info*
[10:35] <adamwest_> thanks somerville32
[10:36] <somerville32> Solsol: Alright, thanks :)
[10:36] <Solsol> so. brb
[10:36] <Solsol> n you're welcome
[10:37] <g333k_work> Hi, when I do #dpkg-reconfigure locales it doesnt ask me to choose languages, why? I just receive a message "Generation complete."
[10:37] <somerville32> g333k_work, Applications > System > Language Support
[10:38] <adamwest_> somerville32: that file's empty D:
[10:39] <somerville32> /proc/cpuinfo ?
[10:39] <adamwest_> yes
[10:39] <TheSheep> mount /proc
[10:39] <TheSheep> and try again
[10:39] <adamwest_> u did sudo gedit /proc/cpuinfo nad didn't work
[10:39] <adamwest_> *i
[10:39] <TheSheep> lol
[10:39] <somerville32> No need to open it as root
[10:40] <TheSheep> and no way to edit it :)
[10:40] <adamwest_> it says permission denied
[10:40] <adamwest_> so what do i do
[10:41] <TheSheep> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:41] <adamwest_> what's cat?
[10:42] <somerville32> It displays it all at once
[10:42] <adamwest_> ah ok
[10:48] <Solsol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2907/plain/
[10:49] <Solsol> there you are somervile
[10:51] <Solsol> help any?
[10:53] <somerville32> Solsol, Make sure to type my entire name to get my attention
[10:54] <Solsol> o. ok
[10:54] <somerville32> Solsol: Are you using a router?
[10:54] <Solsol> Not with my ethernet connection. It only needs my modem
[10:54] <somerville32> It says that you have an internal ip address already assigned to eth0
[10:55] <Solsol> I may have it set to a static IP
[10:55] <somerville32> What kind of ADSL model do you have?
[10:55] <Solsol> A Parydyne
[10:55] <somerville32> Can you give me make and model number?
[10:55] <Solsol> yes. hold on
[10:56] <Solsol> 6381-a3-200
[10:59] <Solsol> You there?
[11:00] <somerville32> Yes :P
[11:00] <somerville32> I'm researching
[11:00] <Solsol> ok
[11:01] <Solsol> If it helps any, my windows detects the linux gateway and that is active
[11:01] <somerville32> Solsol: Linux gateway?
[11:02] <Solsol> yes, i'll send the full name of the connection
[11:02] <Solsol> hmm...it was there earlier
[11:02] <Solsol> nvm that
[11:04] <ShoeUnited> Heyo
[11:05] <ShoeUnited> It's been bothering me (as well I'm sure others) What happened to xfskin?
[11:06] <ShoeUnited> !xfskin
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfskin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ShoeUnited> !theme
[11:06] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:07] <ShoeUnited> !changethemes
[11:07] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[11:07] <ShoeUnited> :/
[11:10] <somerville32> Solsol: Ok
[11:10] <Solsol> find something?
[11:10] <somerville32> Solsol: Yes. I found a person who had the same modem as you and how they fixed it.
[11:10] <somerville32> http://www.mepis.org/node/9240 <-- Last comment
[11:10] <Solsol> ahh, sounds perfect.
[11:11] <somerville32> They are using a different OS though so the instructions don't translate perfectly
[11:11] <ShoeUnited> oo mepis
[11:11] <Solsol> the one by robert59?
[11:11] <somerville32> Solsol: Basically, I believe that your ADSL modem acts sort of like a router
[11:11] <Solsol> oh
[11:11] <somerville32> I saw that you already had an ip address
[11:12] <somerville32> Did you try to see if it even worked in Linux yet?
[11:12] <Solsol> yes
[11:12] <somerville32> And you couldn't access anything?
[11:12] <Solsol> the only thing that even remotely had access was itune's update service
[11:12] <Solsol> but, i couldnt actually download
[11:13] <Solsol> (i used a seperate application to add itunes)
[11:13] <Solsol> hmm, what is a "broadcast number"?
[11:15] <somerville32> Not completely sure
[11:16] <Solsol> nor am i, and these things are usually what i am good at....but of course that's in windows
[11:16] <ShoeUnited> I need help switching themes on Xub I untarred the file into ~/.themes and /usr/share/themes and I still get nothing.  xfskin doesn't exist.  :( pleas a little guide/guidance
[11:16] <ShoeUnited> *please
[11:16] <somerville32> Solsol: Did you know that your model uses embedded linux? lol
[11:16] <somerville32> *modem
[11:16] <Solsol> nope. haha
[11:17] <Solsol> i shall try that and see what happens.
[11:17] <Solsol> be back later perhaps.
[11:18] <somerville32> ShowUnited: You untar the file to ~/.themes/
[11:18] <somerville32> and then they appear in applications > settings > user interface settings
[11:18] <ShoeUnited> That's the part that's getting me, it's not appearing in ui s
[11:19] <ShoeUnited> Should I restart?
[11:19] <ShoeUnited> cause I restarted X after doing that (ctrl+alt+bckspc)
[11:20] <ShoeUnited> And it still doesn't show up.  Unless there's a scripting speciality I'm not aware of.
[11:20] <somerville32> ShowUnited: What theme are you trying to install?
[11:20] <ShoeUnited> Lemme find the link
[11:21] <ShoeUnited> http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=51954&PHPSESSID=ab29be9a0c0284d707e1e93dfc628481
[11:28] <somerville32> ShowUnited: Try looking in Applications > Settings > Windows Manager
[11:28] <somerville32> Also, can you pastebin the output of ls ~/.themes/ ?
[12:19] <gunny01> I want to use my xubuntu box as a webserver that can be seen by other pc on the network. Any ideas?
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> gunny01: Planning to use Apache, or something else (like lighthttpd)?
[12:21] <adamwest> guys how come http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/ <--- that doesn't display right?
[12:22] <maxamillion> adamwest: what doesn't display right?
[12:22] <adamwest> the metacity
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> gunny01: Also, are you only planning to serve web pages, or do you want other things too (ftp server, etc)
[12:22] <gunny01> Just webpages.
[12:22] <gunny01> poss. ftp as well
[12:22] <maxamillion> adamwest: metacity is the media player i assume?
[12:22] <adamwest> maxamillion: it won't show the buttons and stuff right... it's like the old gnome theme
[12:22] <drx0drx> Error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:23] <adamwest> maxamillion: oops i meant the buttons and scrollbars and stuff... what's "inside" the window
[12:23] <adamwest> cant remember the proper name
[12:23] <maxamillion> adamwest: ohhh yeah, that's right ... metacity is the window manager in gnome
[12:23] <drx0drx> is anyone here knowledgable enough to assist me with an installation error?
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> gunny01: To get the web pages part set up, install the apache2 package.  For ftp, I use vsftpd myself.  Make sure you have port forwarding for 80 if you're using a router for http, 443 for https, 20 and 21 for ftp.  The root web directory will be /var/www/
[12:24] <maxamillion> adamwest: but ... errr, that's just the gtk theme ... i think, actually ... i bet someone in #xfce could answer that better for you
[12:24] <adamwest> i'm asking here because this is the channel i get help :P other channels ain't answering so much
[12:24] <maxamillion> drx0drx: i might be ... what's up?
[12:24] <drx0drx> max, Error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:25] <maxamillion> adamwest: hrmmm.... i don't personally know because i don't do much theme changing but it just looks like the gtk button theme is off
[12:25] <adamwest> it works with other themes...
[12:26] <adamwest> btw is there another server with good linux channels except irc.freenode.org?
[12:26] <adamwest> *com
[12:26] <maxamillion> drx0drx: boot live cd, mount the hard drive and do "sudo update-grub" might help
[12:26] <maxamillion> adamwest: freenode.net* ... and no, not that i know of
[12:26] <drx0drx0drx0> grubs not installed yet
[12:26] <adamwest> weird. i'm on irc.freenode.com now
[12:27] <maxamillion> adamwest: its possible they own both domains now and just re-direct .com to the server and not worry about it :)
[12:27] <adamwest> ah ok then