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| cliebow_ | moquist: ping | 12:41 |
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| cliebow_ | anyone up on ltsp? | 12:41 |
| cliebow_ | i have a 4.1 kernel and chroot works fine..switch to the ltsp5 kernel and nfs wont mount the chroot | 12:42 |
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| torrr | is ltsp a kernel? I thougght it was a package, no? | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | LTSP has a kernel that the thin client runs | 03:01 |
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| jbrefort | k jean | 06:14 |
| jbrefort | sorry, wrong channel | 06:15 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | just a quick question | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | do you want an actual deb to look at for sunday? | 09:55 |
| juliux | i have a question about the dhcpd.conf is the next-server the nfs server or the tftp server? | 09:55 |
| ogra | cbx33, a source package would be fine | 09:55 |
| ogra | juliux, tftp | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | but a package none the less | 09:55 |
| juliux | ogra, thxs | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | ok working on it now | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | gonna take me a little while | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | as I've never split a package into two binary pacakges before | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | what was the one you did | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | ltsp something | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | had server and client didn;t it | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | found it | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | ogra: last question...am I pacakging as student control panel or thin client manager? | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | what version number should I use? | 10:02 |
| ogra | you package thin-client-manager and add Conflicts:, Replaces:, Provides: student-control-panel | 10:19 |
| ogra | raise the s-c-p version by one for now ... if its done we'll call it 1.0 | 10:21 |
| ogra | 0.5 would be right i think | 10:21 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | thanks dude | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | doing it now | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | are we changing the names of all the binaries and the install locations too? | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | student-control-panel to thin-client-manager scp to tcm ? | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I'd prefer not to change all the dbus internal stuff | 10:28 |
| cbx33 | what do you think? | 10:28 |
| ogra | as long as the .desktop file shows the right name in the menu do as you like | 10:29 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:29 |
| ogra | we also have to think about the location in the menu now that we have this ugly control center | 10:29 |
| ogra | i dont like it to be in the control center .... | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | oh | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | was that in herd2? | 10:30 |
| ogra | but we dont want a system tools menu ... by default | 10:30 |
| ogra | nope | 10:30 |
| ogra | that came in right after herd2 | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | ahh | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:31 |
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| cbx33 | oh dang it.... | 10:34 |
| cbx33 | i need to install my chroot for fesity | 10:34 |
| cbx33 | here are the pbuilder scripts | 10:51 |
| cbx33 | so i can create mine for fesity? | 10:51 |
| cbx33 | s/ehre/where | 10:51 |
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| James-S | 'ello | 10:59 |
| James-S | Are there any plans to port edubuntu to KDE? | 10:59 |
| ogra | nope | 10:59 |
| ogra | but we'd appreciate a KDE based derivative :) | 11:00 |
| James-S | Well, i'm too busy | 11:00 |
| ogra | so feel free to get some people together to make one | 11:00 |
| James-S | Sorry, i'd love to but i'm working on some other things at the moment | 11:00 |
| James-S | :-( | 11:00 |
| ogra | but there is no problem to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 11:01 |
| James-S | Didn't want to pry, it's just when we used ubuntu on campus for under 18's, they didnt like GNOME | 11:01 |
| James-S | Hm, spose so | 11:01 |
| James-S | Any plans for MEDubuntu? :-D | 11:01 |
| ogra | well, we get a lot of positive feedback for gnome ... i think your'e the third person coming here complaining about it since the channel exists ... | 11:02 |
| ogra | MEDubuntu ? mediacal ubuntu ? | 11:02 |
| ogra | *medical | 11:02 |
| James-S | Yeah | 11:03 |
| cbx33 | ogra: oh wanted to ask you that reminded me | 11:03 |
| James-S | ogra: I don't mind it, just they preferred KDE because of the color scheme | 11:04 |
| ogra | James-S, what did they not like bout our desktop ? is it to colored ? | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | how easy is it to change to kubuntu for the main desktop in feisty | 11:04 |
| ogra | or are the icons to childish ? | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | for edubuntu | 11:04 |
| ogra | cbx33, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 11:05 |
| James-S | The only complaints were the colors, the top bar was too small and the icons were fine | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | ogra: ok...i gotta add that o the book you see ;) | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | ogra: is it required to download the feisty debootstrap into edgy to run a feisty chroot? | 11:06 |
| James-S | The bottom bar on KDE they liked, because it was large and colorful.. the psychologists on campus reccomended gnome for more mature students, and KDE for younger ones | 11:06 |
| ogra | James-S, which release did they test ? (we changed colors every release ... aprart from the window borders) | 11:06 |
| James-S | Not too sure, ogra | 11:06 |
| James-S | I wasn't there, i just heard from another teacher | 11:06 |
| ogra | its trivial to make the gnome bard 64px big ... (two clicks) | 11:06 |
| ogra | *bar | 11:06 |
| James-S | Well, i wouldn't know.. don't shoot the messenger | 11:07 |
| ogra | cbx33, the edgy one should be able to ... | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:07 |
| ogra | but i have never done it, i usually work completely on the development release | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | ogra: also...we're nearing the end of the week....got any progres to report so I can make rooom in the book? | 11:07 |
| James-S | The thing is, i imagine kids would prefer something they don't have to "mess with" themselves.. i've got nothing against GNOME | 11:07 |
| ogra | James-S, i dont want to shoot you, no worries :) | 11:07 |
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| James-S | I dont relaly know why i prefer KDE | 11:08 |
| James-S | GNOME can look good, i just had to do a lot of fiddling around with things for a few hours before it looked great :-) | 11:08 |
| ogra | well, it has technical and manpower reasons that we use gnome edubuntu ... | 11:09 |
| ogra | +in | 11:09 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser doesnt have to play with gnome at all for it to be useful (its when i try and play it stops being so good ;)) | ||
| willvdl | cbx33, what do you use for editing docbook files? | 11:16 |
| willvdl | oops, he gone | 11:16 |
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| James-S | yup | 11:18 |
| James-S | Okay, well thanks! | 11:18 |
| ogra | thanks for dropping by | 11:19 |
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| James-S | It's okay | 11:20 |
| James-S | I wish we had support like ubuntu.. hehe | 11:21 |
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| cbx33 | sorry bout that someone crashed the entire network | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | flodding | 11:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the psychologists on campus reccomended gnome for more mature students, and KDE for younger ones <- bahahahah | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | ogra: did you give me an update on how far the specs have come? | 11:33 |
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| ogra | no and we dont discuss the specs here ... i'll give one after monday, after we had the internal educational teammeeting | 11:35 |
| James-S | It's psychological :-P | 11:35 |
| ogra | currely i have no finished spec but a lot of them started ... its al lying in pieces | 11:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | James-S, :) | 11:36 |
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| ogra | (apart from ltsp sound .... that should be done today and rocks :) ) | 11:36 |
| cbx33 | thanks | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | ogra: what is the state of printing on LTSP going to be? | 11:44 |
| ogra | no serial printewrs yet | 11:45 |
| ogra | but everything else will work like in edgy | 11:45 |
| ogra | i know sbalneav has patches for serial as well, but he didnt send me anything yet | 11:45 |
| ogra | (i'm missing the HW to test serial printer stuff) | 11:46 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | ogra, whats this about serial printers? | 11:47 |
| James-S | I've got to make some equipment mechanism for storage, management, etc in hospitals .. i checked the bodies that you have to comply with in order for the NHS to accept the software; there's 45 criterion in all :-( | 11:47 |
| ogra | Kamping_Kaiser, the new print server doesnt have support for serial printers yet ... we had to drop the old one because it wasnt licensed at all and no upstream exists anymore | 11:48 |
| ogra | Kamping_Kaiser, https://launchpad.net/~ogra/+branch/ltsp/feisty-ltsp-jetpipe | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | and how was that ogra, how id it work in edgy.... | 11:51 |
| cbx33 | did they just print through the server | 11:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ogra, ah ok. i have the equipment to test parallel printers, so i was wondering. as for pure seriall.... | 11:51 |
| ogra | cbx33, it worked the same as in upstream ltsp ... it never changed ... | 11:51 |
| ogra | Kamping_Kaiser, serial rinters are usually used in POS systems | 11:52 |
| ogra | to print bills etc | 11:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ogra, yeh. i'm just looking around my room wondering if i have any serial's lying around | 11:53 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I've never printed from an ltsp thin client | 11:53 |
| ogra | well, we need the code from sbalneav first :) | 11:53 |
| ogra | cbx33, look in the ltsp.org docs | 11:53 |
| ogra | its 100% equal ... and will stay this way (if i get scotties code) | 11:54 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah well. i dont have a serial printer (well, not that i can see) | 12:02 |
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| cbx33 | ogra: w00t I have a source file | 01:06 |
| cbx33 | I'll try installing that on my machine at home later | 01:06 |
| cbx33 | see if it makes it in a usable state | 01:06 |
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| RichEd | hey cbx33 ... can you mail me the .PDF for your BETT brochure ? | 01:08 |
| cbx33 | um....yeh sure | 01:08 |
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| RichEd | pliss tank yew .... | 01:08 |
| RichEd | :) | 01:08 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd: it may be best to get it from will | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | I'll send you my version but he has the one that went to the printers | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: it may be best to get it from will | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | I'll send you my version but he has the one that went to the printers | 01:09 |
| RichEd | thanks :) | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | whoops | 01:09 |
| RichEd | thanks :) | 01:09 |
| RichEd | i keep seeing 2 of everthying | 01:09 |
| cbx33 | it's on it's way | 01:11 |
| cbx33 | my lag here is awful | 01:11 |
| cbx33 | can't wait till my friends server is fixed | 01:11 |
| juliux | cbx33, did you create the logo for edubuntu-schools team? | 01:13 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hehehe. thanks for that :) | 01:16 |
| === RichEd hopes it helps | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | time will tell. unfortunately i cant work on it to much tonight - gotta pick mum up from the airport early am :/ | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | juliux: yes | 01:20 |
| juliux | cbx33, if you want i can create one with the edubuntu circle and not with the ubuntu one | 01:20 |
| cbx33 | oooh yes | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | thanky | 01:21 |
| juliux | cbx33, i will email it to you | 01:21 |
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| juliux | cbx33, here it is http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntuschool16x16.png it is already in the right size for launchpad | 01:30 |
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| willvdl | Can anyone suggest a reasonable spec for edubuntu workstation? | 01:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | workstation? as oposed to thin client? | 01:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'd think any p3+256mb ram would do as a minimal thing | 01:54 |
| willvdl | yip | 01:54 |
| willvdl | so P4+512MB off-the-shelf is decent enough | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 1 gig cpu, 512ram and your flying | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | easy | 01:55 |
| willvdl | don't need to fly but would be cool | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | (imo) | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 01:55 |
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| cbx33 | awesome juliux | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | if you could email it to me that would be great | 02:23 |
| juliux | cbx33, ok | 02:23 |
| crazytales2 | I have edubuntu running on a 1.7GHz celery/512mb | 02:24 |
| crazytales2 | at 1600x1200 | 02:24 |
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| cbx33 | RichEd: did you get my file? | 03:13 |
| RichEd | yes thanks ... and it's on its way to the philippines | 03:15 |
| RichEd | :) | 03:15 |
| cbx33 | wow awesome | 03:15 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: do you have 2 mins fro a quick chat? | 03:15 |
| RichEd | in 5 mins yeah :) | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | cool | 03:16 |
| cbx33 | just ping me | 03:16 |
| juliux | cool on the new thinclients is now sound working | 03:22 |
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| James-S | :) | 04:00 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:36 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | anyone know if you can get sound on dapper LTS and if so is there a wiki guide for it that works? | 06:01 |
| ogra | SOUND=True | 06:01 |
| ogra | (its very strict about the wording in dapper) | 06:01 |
| ogra | i have to pack up, we need to leave the room | 06:02 |
| cbx33 | ogra ok | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | thanks | 06:06 |
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| juliux | ogra, i have sucess with sound on thinclients here | 06:38 |
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| juliux | anybody awake? | 07:38 |
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| joumetal | juliux I'm awake | 07:56 |
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| Petaris | Hi all | 07:56 |
| Petaris | Can anyone tell me if FL_TeacherTool works with the Ubuntu LTSP? | 07:57 |
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| juliux | joumetal, did you tested the feisty iso? | 08:16 |
| joumetal | juliux no. It would be intresting. I have up to date ubuntu-feisty installed if it's any help. | 08:19 |
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| juliux | hm all feisty iso are broken on my core duo | 08:30 |
| joumetal | juliux are you familiar with malone? | 08:34 |
| juliux | i check malone but there was no bug report | 08:35 |
| joumetal | maybe it's core duo problem. It would be very nice to get core duos working with feisty. How broken are isos? | 08:38 |
| juliux | after the keyboard decetion the installation hangs | 08:40 |
| juliux | if i switch to tty4 i see the error kernel not found | 08:40 |
| juliux | i will try now edgy and then upgrading to feisty | 08:40 |
| juliux | http://www.transtec.de/D/D/products/personal_computer/pc/mini_pc.html?mod=prod&name=SY600MTA45-A this is the pc | 08:42 |
| cliebow_ | ltsp anyone?syntax for an lts.conf ..specify by hostname or MAC address? | 08:43 |
| juliux | cliebow_, booth is working | 08:43 |
| cliebow_ | ah k.. SCREEN_01=shell too? | 08:44 |
| joumetal | juliux I suggest filing new bug report with much information. | 08:44 |
| cliebow_ | juliux:just getting final touches on powerpc chroot from 1386 | 08:44 |
| juliux | joumetal, i want to talk with a dev bevor i do tath;) | 08:44 |
| juliux | that | 08:45 |
| juliux | so bug report field;) | 08:59 |
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