=== nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:41] moquist: ping [12:41] anyone up on ltsp? [12:42] i have a 4.1 kernel and chroot works fine..switch to the ltsp5 kernel and nfs wont mount the chroot === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-254.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] === Crazytales2 is now known as NickS1rv === NickS1rv is now known as crazytales2 === SkirK_WorKSpace [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d4281d.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === SkirK_WorKSpace va a ninna... === SkirK_WorKSpace lol === SkirK_WorKSpace Go to Sleep === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === AnRkey [n=anrkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu [02:57] is ltsp a kernel? I thougght it was a package, no? [03:01] LTSP has a kernel that the thin client runs === pitux [n=pitux@249-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === wizzy [n=andyr@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.39.244] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] k jean [06:15] sorry, wrong channel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.211] has joined #edubuntu === matt1234 [n=matt@c-69-138-224-227.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === matt1234 [n=matt@c-69-138-224-227.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42811.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === amachu [n=amachu@59.144.12.110] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === adamix [n=paolo@151.76.249.206] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6057c6a502fa5bb4] has joined #edubuntu [09:55] ping ogra [09:55] just a quick question [09:55] do you want an actual deb to look at for sunday? [09:55] i have a question about the dhcpd.conf is the next-server the nfs server or the tftp server? [09:55] cbx33, a source package would be fine [09:55] juliux, tftp [09:55] but a package none the less [09:55] ogra, thxs [09:55] ok working on it now [09:56] gonna take me a little while [09:56] as I've never split a package into two binary pacakges before [09:57] what was the one you did [09:57] ltsp something [09:57] had server and client didn;t it [09:59] found it [10:02] ogra: last question...am I pacakging as student control panel or thin client manager? [10:02] what version number should I use? [10:19] you package thin-client-manager and add Conflicts:, Replaces:, Provides: student-control-panel [10:21] raise the s-c-p version by one for now ... if its done we'll call it 1.0 [10:21] 0.5 would be right i think [10:24] ok [10:24] thanks dude [10:24] doing it now [10:27] are we changing the names of all the binaries and the install locations too? [10:27] student-control-panel to thin-client-manager scp to tcm ? [10:28] ogra: I'd prefer not to change all the dbus internal stuff [10:28] what do you think? [10:29] as long as the .desktop file shows the right name in the menu do as you like [10:29] ok [10:29] we also have to think about the location in the menu now that we have this ugly control center [10:30] i dont like it to be in the control center .... [10:30] oh [10:30] was that in herd2? [10:30] but we dont want a system tools menu ... by default [10:30] nope [10:30] that came in right after herd2 [10:31] ahh [10:31] ok === Mez -> bed [10:34] oh dang it.... [10:34] i need to install my chroot for fesity [10:51] here are the pbuilder scripts [10:51] so i can create mine for fesity? [10:51] s/ehre/where === James-S [i=kvirc@86.112.0.125] has joined #edubuntu [10:59] 'ello [10:59] Are there any plans to port edubuntu to KDE? [10:59] nope [11:00] but we'd appreciate a KDE based derivative :) [11:00] Well, i'm too busy [11:00] so feel free to get some people together to make one [11:00] Sorry, i'd love to but i'm working on some other things at the moment [11:00] :-( [11:01] but there is no problem to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [11:01] Didn't want to pry, it's just when we used ubuntu on campus for under 18's, they didnt like GNOME [11:01] Hm, spose so [11:01] Any plans for MEDubuntu? :-D [11:02] well, we get a lot of positive feedback for gnome ... i think your'e the third person coming here complaining about it since the channel exists ... [11:02] MEDubuntu ? mediacal ubuntu ? [11:02] *medical [11:03] Yeah [11:03] ogra: oh wanted to ask you that reminded me [11:04] ogra: I don't mind it, just they preferred KDE because of the color scheme [11:04] James-S, what did they not like bout our desktop ? is it to colored ? [11:04] how easy is it to change to kubuntu for the main desktop in feisty [11:04] or are the icons to childish ? [11:04] for edubuntu [11:05] cbx33, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [11:05] The only complaints were the colors, the top bar was too small and the icons were fine [11:05] ogra: ok...i gotta add that o the book you see ;) [11:06] ogra: is it required to download the feisty debootstrap into edgy to run a feisty chroot? [11:06] The bottom bar on KDE they liked, because it was large and colorful.. the psychologists on campus reccomended gnome for more mature students, and KDE for younger ones [11:06] James-S, which release did they test ? (we changed colors every release ... aprart from the window borders) [11:06] Not too sure, ogra [11:06] I wasn't there, i just heard from another teacher [11:06] its trivial to make the gnome bard 64px big ... (two clicks) [11:06] *bar [11:07] Well, i wouldn't know.. don't shoot the messenger [11:07] cbx33, the edgy one should be able to ... [11:07] ok [11:07] but i have never done it, i usually work completely on the development release [11:07] ogra: also...we're nearing the end of the week....got any progres to report so I can make rooom in the book? [11:07] The thing is, i imagine kids would prefer something they don't have to "mess with" themselves.. i've got nothing against GNOME [11:07] James-S, i dont want to shoot you, no worries :) === James-S comes here from OpenMRS [11:08] I dont relaly know why i prefer KDE [11:08] GNOME can look good, i just had to do a lot of fiddling around with things for a few hours before it looked great :-) [11:09] well, it has technical and manpower reasons that we use gnome edubuntu ... [11:09] +in === Kamping_Kaiser doesnt have to play with gnome at all for it to be useful (its when i try and play it stops being so good ;)) [11:16] cbx33, what do you use for editing docbook files? [11:16] oops, he gone === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [11:18] yup [11:18] Okay, well thanks! [11:19] thanks for dropping by === adamix [n=paolo@151.76.249.206] has left #edubuntu [] === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:20] It's okay [11:21] I wish we had support like ubuntu.. hehe === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-80bb5fe3657f6e1f] has joined #edubuntu [11:33] sorry bout that someone crashed the entire network [11:33] flodding [11:33] the psychologists on campus reccomended gnome for more mature students, and KDE for younger ones <- bahahahah [11:33] ogra: did you give me an update on how far the specs have come? === Kamping_Kaiser wondesr why people lowercase gnome, but capitalise kde [11:35] no and we dont discuss the specs here ... i'll give one after monday, after we had the internal educational teammeeting [11:35] It's psychological :-P [11:36] currely i have no finished spec but a lot of them started ... its al lying in pieces [11:36] James-S, :) === James-S is not a big fan of Psychology that isn't Cognitive or neurologically based [11:36] (apart from ltsp sound .... that should be done today and rocks :) ) [11:42] thanks [11:44] ogra: what is the state of printing on LTSP going to be? [11:45] no serial printewrs yet [11:45] but everything else will work like in edgy [11:45] i know sbalneav has patches for serial as well, but he didnt send me anything yet [11:46] (i'm missing the HW to test serial printer stuff) === James-S compresses himself into a quantum singularity [11:47] ogra, whats this about serial printers? [11:47] I've got to make some equipment mechanism for storage, management, etc in hospitals .. i checked the bodies that you have to comply with in order for the NHS to accept the software; there's 45 criterion in all :-( [11:48] Kamping_Kaiser, the new print server doesnt have support for serial printers yet ... we had to drop the old one because it wasnt licensed at all and no upstream exists anymore [11:49] Kamping_Kaiser, https://launchpad.net/~ogra/+branch/ltsp/feisty-ltsp-jetpipe [11:51] and how was that ogra, how id it work in edgy.... [11:51] did they just print through the server [11:51] ogra, ah ok. i have the equipment to test parallel printers, so i was wondering. as for pure seriall.... [11:51] cbx33, it worked the same as in upstream ltsp ... it never changed ... [11:52] Kamping_Kaiser, serial rinters are usually used in POS systems [11:52] to print bills etc [11:53] ogra, yeh. i'm just looking around my room wondering if i have any serial's lying around [11:53] ogra: I've never printed from an ltsp thin client [11:53] well, we need the code from sbalneav first :) [11:53] cbx33, look in the ltsp.org docs [11:54] its 100% equal ... and will stay this way (if i get scotties code) [11:55] ok [12:02] ah well. i dont have a serial printer (well, not that i can see) === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === wizzy [n=andyr@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === kalle_ [n=kalle@keymaster.ludvika.se] has joined #edubuntu [01:06] ogra: w00t I have a source file [01:06] I'll try installing that on my machine at home later [01:06] see if it makes it in a usable state === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has left #edubuntu ["Verlassend"] [01:08] hey cbx33 ... can you mail me the .PDF for your BETT brochure ? [01:08] um....yeh sure === cbx33 goes hunting [01:08] pliss tank yew .... [01:08] :) === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] RichEd: it may be best to get it from will [01:09] I'll send you my version but he has the one that went to the printers [01:09] RichEd: it may be best to get it from will [01:09] I'll send you my version but he has the one that went to the printers [01:09] thanks :) [01:09] whoops [01:09] thanks :) [01:09] i keep seeing 2 of everthying [01:11] it's on it's way [01:11] my lag here is awful [01:11] can't wait till my friends server is fixed [01:13] cbx33, did you create the logo for edubuntu-schools team? === Kamping_Kaiser gives lams another dirty look and downloads the newsest jboss to try and help it along === RichEd slaps LAMS around a bit and tells it "listen to karl damnit and behave yourself ! [01:16] hehehe. thanks for that :) === RichEd hopes it helps [01:18] time will tell. unfortunately i cant work on it to much tonight - gotta pick mum up from the airport early am :/ [01:20] juliux: yes [01:20] cbx33, if you want i can create one with the edubuntu circle and not with the ubuntu one [01:21] oooh yes [01:21] thanky [01:21] cbx33, i will email it to you === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:30] cbx33, here it is http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntuschool16x16.png it is already in the right size for launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:53] Can anyone suggest a reasonable spec for edubuntu workstation? [01:54] workstation? as oposed to thin client? [01:54] i'd think any p3+256mb ram would do as a minimal thing [01:54] yip [01:55] so P4+512MB off-the-shelf is decent enough [01:55] 1 gig cpu, 512ram and your flying [01:55] easy [01:55] don't need to fly but would be cool [01:55] (imo) [01:55] lol === Kamping_Kaiser has his edubuntu workstation chained down === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] awesome juliux [02:23] if you could email it to me that would be great [02:23] cbx33, ok [02:24] I have edubuntu running on a 1.7GHz celery/512mb [02:24] at 1600x1200 === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === kalle_ [n=kalle@keymaster.ludvika.se] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-241-17-52.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichRd === RichRd is now known as RichEd [03:13] RichEd: did you get my file? [03:15] yes thanks ... and it's on its way to the philippines [03:15] :) [03:15] wow awesome [03:15] RichEd: do you have 2 mins fro a quick chat? [03:16] in 5 mins yeah :) [03:16] cool [03:16] just ping me [03:22] cool on the new thinclients is now sound working === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] :) === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:36] Heya === pitux [n=pitux@208-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A97ABC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-151-219.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJokc === LaserJokc is now known as LaserJock === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-225-120.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:00] ping ogra [06:01] anyone know if you can get sound on dapper LTS and if so is there a wiki guide for it that works? [06:01] SOUND=True [06:01] (its very strict about the wording in dapper) [06:02] i have to pack up, we need to leave the room [06:06] ogra ok [06:06] thanks === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #edubuntu [06:38] ogra, i have sucess with sound on thinclients here === caravena [n=caravena@167-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-241-17-52.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@201.170.27.208] has joined #edubuntu === joumetal [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] anybody awake? === AnRkey [n=anrkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [07:56] juliux I'm awake === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [07:56] Hi all [07:57] Can anyone tell me if FL_TeacherTool works with the Ubuntu LTSP? === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.162] has joined #edubuntu [08:16] joumetal, did you tested the feisty iso? [08:19] juliux no. It would be intresting. I have up to date ubuntu-feisty installed if it's any help. === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@201.170.27.208] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [08:30] hm all feisty iso are broken on my core duo [08:34] juliux are you familiar with malone? [08:35] i check malone but there was no bug report [08:38] maybe it's core duo problem. It would be very nice to get core duos working with feisty. How broken are isos? [08:40] after the keyboard decetion the installation hangs [08:40] if i switch to tty4 i see the error kernel not found [08:40] i will try now edgy and then upgrading to feisty [08:42] http://www.transtec.de/D/D/products/personal_computer/pc/mini_pc.html?mod=prod&name=SY600MTA45-A this is the pc [08:43] ltsp anyone?syntax for an lts.conf ..specify by hostname or MAC address? [08:43] cliebow_, booth is working [08:44] ah k.. SCREEN_01=shell too? 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