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[03:35] hey Jucato! [03:36] I think I need to distance myself from KDE... [03:37] in what fashion? [03:37] oh? [03:37] dunno... but don't you think it's bad when you start dreaming about KDE? O.o [03:37] I dream about KDE, GNOME and Xfce all the time. [03:37] er, no? [03:38] lol [03:38] as in very bad alsa-related dreams. [03:38] ok, so I'm normal after all! lol === Jucato goes along happily with his day === rdorsc [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] hehe === poningru is dreaming of a desktop... zomg its gnome&KDE [04:02] what, a combination? [04:03] wasn't that Red Hat 8 or something? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-52-90.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:17] crimsun: redhat9... Bluecurve [04:17] poningru: ^^ [04:17] rofl [04:17] they made almost identical looking themes for KDE/GNOME [04:17] so they look believably blended [04:18] only problem was starting from FC1 [04:18] they revamped the GNOME Bluecurve theme === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121dvu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] but didn't remember/bother to update KDE's [04:18] so from that point on Bluecurve went downhill :) [04:18] I still like the metatheme concept though [04:19] jdong: heh === Hobbsee remembers bluecurve === jdong thinks a Human metatheme would be kinda nice === poningru is too young to remember fc1 === Jucato would like a metatheme, but with different color schemes :P === Hobbsee doesnt like the ubuntu icons. [04:25] WHAT? [04:26] the human ones === poningru <3's tango [04:26] oh right === Hobbsee also doesnt like gnome looking all grey, either [04:26] hehe I sometimes forget my icons arent the default [04:26] that's my biggest hate - i prefer shiny, etc. [04:26] ... === ajmitch shudders [04:26] shiny, pretty. not grey. [04:26] :P [04:26] hence, i'm going to resist any gnome-looking icons :P === ajmitch dangles shiny bits of string in front of Hobbsee to distract her === Hobbsee thwaps ajmitch [04:26] Human icons are shiny :) [04:27] yeah, they're getting a bit better.... [04:27] ajmitch: ooh...shiny :) [04:27] but..but... [04:27] hehe [04:27] you just thwapepd him [04:27] you cant do that [04:27] it's Hobbsee [04:27] poningru: why cant i? i've met him in person.... [04:27] what do you expect? === Hobbsee attacks poningru with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === Hobbsee notes that ajmitch isnt a great fan of being tickled. [04:28] rofl [04:28] hah [04:28] heh [04:28] hih? [04:28] hoh [04:28] no [04:28] YES! [04:28] mo [04:28] gaaah [04:28] you broke the meme [04:29] sad people === poningru takes Hobbsee's long pointy stick and beats her with it [04:29] poningru: you *cant* - it's mine! [04:29] pssh I just did!!! [04:30] :p [04:30] brb [04:30] pushup time hooah [04:33] poningru: you're deluded === Hobbsee removes poningru's brain, and forcefully installs a new, better one. === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-90-16.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] blargh MY BRAAAAIIIN!!!! [04:36] 'obey Hobbsee' [04:36] 'obey Hobbsee' [04:36] 'obey Hobbsee' [04:36] 'obey Hobbsee' [04:36] 'obey Hobbsee' [04:36] hehe [04:36] how dull [04:36] ajmitch: how can i reset my mouse into working, without restarting the X server? [04:37] ... guess she restarted X after all === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:37] Hobbsee: I sometimes fix mouse troubles by going to another tty and then coming back to 7 [04:38] poningru: yeah, that fixed the display, but not the mouse [04:39] Hobbsee: give the laptop to me [04:39] hmm weird [04:39] ajmitch: why, what will you do with it? :P [04:39] no give it to me [04:39] keep it [04:39] I actually need it [04:39] silly question === Hobbsee does have a spare === ajmitch needs it as well [04:39] alacloud.net if anyone wants to donate some old hardware [04:40] something that will take less than 10W === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] Hobbsee: we recently moved server to a different location can you test speed to aus? http://freeculture.org/random-100-megs [04:51] err wrong channel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ingmar [n=ingmar@86-39-0-43.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.183.109] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-200-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-158-122.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.188] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor [n=praetor@203-217-3-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-008-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor [n=praetor@203-217-3-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrWGW [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:44] hmm, kdegames gone boom === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@24-50-12-39.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:06] so... anyone dist-upgraded to the 3.5.6 in feisty? [10:07] yep [10:09] Riddell: it's in feisty/main now, isn't it ? [10:15] oh... didnt know we'd updated === MrWGW [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [10:25] stdin: yes [10:26] so I had to download it twice, once from Riddell's reop, then again from the main one === Mez -> bed [10:32] stdin: and do you now have the packages from the ubuntu archive? [10:32] night Mez [10:33] morning Riddell (and sleepy byes) === \sh_away is now known as \sh === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.21.62] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor_ [n=praetor@124-168-94-12.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] Riddell: sorry, was away for a while. Yeah, they are from the ubuntu archive now [11:23] stdin: does konsole still work? [11:24] Riddell: yep, seems to work fine [11:28] great, thanks [11:28] you're welcome :) [11:30] stdin: able to do another test? [11:30] wget http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/konsole/kdebase_pty_test.cc [11:30] make sure you have kdelibs-dev installed [11:30] compile using the instructions at the top [11:30] and run ./a.out [11:30] I get a "ERROR 403: Forbidden." [11:31] stdin: try now [11:34] Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/329039 [11:44] hum [11:44] you sure you have the package from ubuntu and not still from kubuntu.org? they have the same version number [11:46] yeah, just reinstalled to make sure [11:46] ok, thanks, I'll look into it when I can get to a feisty machine [11:48] Riddell: huh, actually it compiled this time [11:48] oh? did you change any packages? [11:48] not that I could tell, just did a apt-get --reinstall install kdelibs-dev [11:49] well, that would help [11:49] does it run? [11:49] crashes right away [11:49] mmm, nice [11:50] try apt-get --reinstall install kdelibs4c2a konsole [11:52] not it runs [11:52] *now [11:53] oh, does anything appear on the konsole widget? [11:54] yeah, it prints "(child) hello world 2" then "bash: no job control in this shell" then a prompt [11:54] perfect [11:55] it's all coming together beautifully! [11:55] thanks stdin [11:55] no problem :) [11:59] Riddell: hey ! just to let you know, I'm preparing uploads for kdebase, kdelibs, kdemultimedia and kdenetwork === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:05] Riddell: Any idea which address of Mark I should subscribe to the supporting membership list? [12:07] mark@ubuntu.com? [12:07] hi sebas ;) [12:07] Ok, thanks [12:07] or mark@canonical.co [12:08] Riddell: shoudln't we provide the kwallet patch with edgy 3.5.6 packages ? this is a very annoying issue and the patch closes the bug [12:09] I just added the patch to feisty fyi [12:10] mm, that one slipped my mind [12:11] Riddell: hehe, that cn happen === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@C6c87.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] hi Zerlinna [12:19] hi Riddell [12:19] hey Zerlinna [12:20] Riddell: shouldn't we define a date for the next meeting ? [12:20] Riddell: have you heard anything of amu? [12:20] hi Tonio_ === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] hey imbrandon ! === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-117-73.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] hi Zerlinna [12:23] hi kwwii :-) [12:24] Zerlinna: not for a while [12:24] Zerlinna: why? [12:26] Riddell: I need to know if he's coming to CLT because Jan from CLT is awaiting our reply (booth staff etc.) by the 31st [12:28] Riddell: how about the next meeting, shoudln't we define a date ? [12:28] Zerlinna: does it matter? so long as somebody turns up to run it? [12:28] Tonio_: yep, we should [12:29] wi not thursday in a week ? [12:29] 22 utc as always [12:29] as long as it doesn't clash with an ubuntu dev team meeting [12:30] sure [12:31] Riddell: it does ;) [12:31] let's find a new date [12:31] maybe in 2 week then [12:31] 02/06 22 utc, nothing then [12:31] Riddell: well, it does, because amu is listed as one of the organisators (he registered and second booth and after merged it with ours) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:32] Zerlinna: have you sent amu an email asking about this? === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:32] Zerlinna: if he doesn't reply feel free to take his name off that list [12:33] kwwii: I sent a mail to the events-list [12:33] Zerlinna: well, I would probably CC him on that, just in case, and if he doesn't respond take action === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:34] kwwii: true.. I'll forward the mail to him === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] hey kwwii [12:35] hi rraphink ! [12:35] hi rraphink ;) === quique [n=quique@155.210.68.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] Hi, will packages of KDE 3.5.6 be uploaded for Dapper ? === Enola_Gay [n=enola@dslb-084-057-253-125.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:42] hi all [12:43] hi Enola_Gay [12:43] quique: no [12:44] :-( [12:44] hi Tonio_ we [12:44] hi Zerlinna [12:45] rraphink: bah putain il tait temps ! [12:45] Time to learn how to use Konstruct, I guess... [12:45] rraphink: remarque t'es dans le midi maintenant c'est normal [12:45] le midi c'est la suite de la france un peu :) [12:45] heh [12:45] ;) [12:45] un pote utilise mon portable dans la journee [12:45] pendant que je suis au boulot [12:46] donc en general, rraphink c'est mon pote [12:46] et moi c'est raphink [12:46] ;) [12:47] hi Riddell, do you know if the gpg bug in Kopete 3.5.6 is fixed? [12:47] quique: it's not hard to apt-get source the kde packages and run debuild to compile [12:47] Enola_Gay: which bug is that? [12:47] similar to this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/63221 [12:47] Malone bug 63221 in kopete "No longer able to decrypt GPG IMs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [12:47] I have upgraded to 3.5.6 yesterday and everything seems to work fine except the encryption in Kopete so I have downgraded again. [12:47] Riddell: Ok, thanks, I'll try that [12:49] Enola_Gay: I wonder if that happens in feisty too [12:52] quique: apt-get source <> package && apt-get build-dep && debuild === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:52] debuild *.dsc [12:52] sorry :) [12:53] First I should add the KDE 3.5.6 Edgy repository, right ? [12:54] apt-get source && apt-get build-dep && debuild *.dsc , right? [12:54] yup [12:54] or pbuilder [12:54] get the package first, then install everything required for the build, and debuild it [12:54] ;) [12:55] quique: also, devscripts and build-essential packages might be required too [12:55] and that's it [12:55] Thank you, Tonio_ [12:56] quique: only add the deb-src for the 3.5.6 edgy archive [12:57] Riddell: sorry, I have no Feisty, only Edgy [12:57] Riddell: And it isn't so easy to test encryption with a Live CD [12:58] Tonio_: quique afaik apt-src installs every needed dependencies [12:58] Riddell: I'm also preparing a new kds, nothing to add on your own ? [12:59] Enola_Gay: yes gives about the same result, but it is not installed by default :) [12:59] I hope kdenetwork build will not fail this time [12:59] I had an issue with ksambaplugins lib last time I tried... [01:00] Riddell: Is any gpg password gui installed in Feisty by default? Then it wouldn't be so hard to check it with live cd. [01:00] Enola_Gay: nope [01:01] Tonio_: nothing comes to mind [01:01] It would make sense but I could try it since Kopete has something like that. At least I could install software on live cd. bbl [01:01] cu [01:02] Riddell: new kds on my own is to set defualt settings for the kopete contact list theme, as the patch allows that [01:03] Riddell: we should look to a sru for knetworkmanager too [01:03] Riddell: I'll take care of it next week === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_w [i=kvirc@nat/hp/x-7213d0ccd6a5144d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rdorsc [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] <\sh> hmmm.... [01:34] <\sh> adept doesn't update new kde version...from the dialog where it says: new kde version available, please click next to update.... [01:35] <\sh> after that, adept just closes without any hint === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Enola_Gay [n=enola@dslb-084-057-253-125.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] re [01:47] Riddell: The Kopete GPG problem doesn't happen in Feisty. [01:48] Riddell: Wow, wait, does Herd 2 uses Kopete 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 [01:48] Enola_Gay: .5 because .6 was released later? [01:48] It have to be 3.5.5?! sorry [01:48] ;) [01:48] :) [01:48] But do upgrade and you get .6 eventually. [01:49] Tm_T: Of Course but I have only tested it with the live cd since I need a working Linux installation and my laptop isn't fast enough for an emulator. [01:50] Sure. === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ingmar [n=ingmar@vpnc041.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] Riddell: did you integrate the patch for kopete baloons in kdelibs ? [02:06] I don't see it in the changelog [02:06] Tonio_: it's in the upstream .orig [02:07] Riddell: ah you did a sync ? [02:07] ho no just those 2 files, okay I understand :) [02:07] that's why you needed the patch for nzb files [02:07] Tonio_: no, it's in the upstream release [02:08] Tonio_: new edgy 3.5.6 langpacks are on kubuntu.org [02:08] Riddell: bah the patch is there :) [02:08] Riddell: kubuntu_65_nzb_mimetype.diff [02:08] looks like it is not in your orig ;) [02:09] but yes it is in official upstream release === glatzor [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@81.193.18.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === animimotus [n=animimot@unaffiliated/animimotus] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpna218.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor_ [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor_ is now known as glatzor === rdorsc [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-9e8772ee7108c0e3] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@243.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@165.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] Riddell: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture8.png [03:12] Riddell: any opinion ? [03:13] the contact list theme needs to be updated to fit the default theme, but kopete looks better to me like this [03:13] Riddell: although, that new discuss window theme has one advantage : it doesn't but on images, while the default kopete style does === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@81.193.18.96] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:17] Riddell: I'd like to give a test, especially since the default kopete theme bugs when you post a smiley on the first post of a series [03:17] image isn't displayed [03:18] Tonio__: have you spoken to any kopete developers about this? [03:19] Tonio__: ? [03:19] Tonio__: How I can reproduce that? [03:19] nice theme :) [03:19] Riddell: nope, but the guy that did the patch told that he was contacted by kopete to implement this in kde4 [03:19] lemme find you the link [03:19] Tm_T: what? you don't know? :O [03:19] Tm_T: to reproduce that you need patches [03:20] Tonio__: I see, it's patch related. === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnc006.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:20] Riddell: well the discussion window theme is just a "normal" theme [03:20] Jucato: Know what? [03:20] Tm_T: nothing :) [03:20] the the fact that the contact list is themeable results from a patch [03:20] ...true. [03:20] Tonio__: Yup, well, maybe I try that. [03:20] I did refuse to try it earlier. ;) [03:20] Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=49765 [03:21] that's what he annouced [03:21] I found another topic on google saying kopete was interested in his patch [03:21] but I can't find the link.... [03:22] Riddell: I already uploaded the patch for kdenetwork, you told me last time you were okay to test this in feisty ;) [03:22] oh aye [03:22] sure go ahead [03:22] Tonio__: I'll look mailinglist. ;) [03:22] is kopete in feisty from kdenetwork now? [03:22] Riddell: okay, I'll fix the contact list theme to fit that new one today and I will upload kds toonight [03:22] Riddell: yes [03:23] Riddell: the reason for the default theme change is not artwork, but that the default bugs [03:23] concerning the look, I'll ask kwwii's opinion of course :) [03:24] Riddell: concerning the kwallet patch and edgy, we may wait a bit [03:24] Tonio__: which theme are you talking about? [03:24] there is a critical bug in 3.5.6 and kmail, so I found suggest to wait for a fix publish the 2 patches, do you agree on the approach [03:24] http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture8.png [03:25] kwwii: this one, reguarding the "discussion window", not the contact list [03:25] kwwii: kopete's default is nice bug bugs sometimes, this one doesn't bug and looks nicer to me [03:26] kwwii: so I'd like to upload it via kds and wait for people's feedback [03:26] Tonio__: looks good to me [03:26] especially if it is less buggy [03:26] Riddell: the critical bug I'm talking about is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140660 [03:26] KDE bug 140660 in general "kmail crash when I make a CTRL + J in inbox" [Grave,New] [03:26] looses all mails when crashing [03:26] and is tagged as "grave" [03:27] if you don't lose the mail, it gets duplicated [03:27] Jucato: yes too [03:27] hehe, that is one I don't want to test [03:27] hehe I tested it. luckily no deleted mails :) [03:27] Riddell: I'll wait for a fix, and then maybe we can prepare new edgy packages including kwallet and that patch [03:27] (of course I didn't test it on Kubuntu's KDE... guilty feeling...) [03:27] since the bug is propably on the same package (kdelibs) [03:28] Jucato: confirmed to me on #kubuntu-fr [03:28] edgy and 3.5.6 [03:28] yeah, the bug reporter was on #kde. confirmed on Mandriva, using KDE SVN by annma... lots of confirmations :) [03:28] I'll post the patch on feisty, no problem on that point, but the issue is 3.5.6 on edgy since that's up to Riddell only ;) [03:29] Jucato: well now it's "grave" we can be sur to have a patch in a few days === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:30] yeah... it wasn't grave a few minutes ago while we were having fun seeing duplicated mails :D [03:31] how can they release kmail regularly with such big issues ? [03:31] they only test imap, that probably the reason [03:31] it is not the first time kmail is released with pop3 completly broken [03:31] while imap support always work like a charm [03:34] I guess very few people use Ctrl+J... [03:36] Jucato: also fails with right click "apply rules" [03:36] the shortucut isn't the issue, the scan is [03:36] aah === ingmar [n=ingmar@vpna240.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] aller hop, on change le theme par defaut de kopete dans feisty ! [03:42] ca va dchirer ! [03:42] oups bad channel sorry [03:43] lol [03:43] :D === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ingmar [n=ingmar@vpna240.ugent.be] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Remember] === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.230.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:34] Hmm, have you gu(/a)ys seen this? http://gaybuntu.com/ [04:36] Heya [04:36] yeah, at least it's not a fork [04:36] like with christianubuntu (and the satanicubuntu parady) [04:38] Tonio_: Oh my... I hope I can easily unpatch my Kopete, this looks too bad. [04:38] Tm_T: the theme is a matter of configuration [04:38] Or, I just heavily modify or hmm hmm. [04:38] you can switch back to standard very easilly [04:39] Tonio_: But all images are _tiny_ compared my hacks... [04:39] the patch just adds more possibilities, but doesn't replace anything [04:39] Oh it does. [04:39] Atleast here, a lot. [04:39] Tm_T: yes, but no visual change as long as you don't configure anything [04:40] Tonio_: I know, but I already had modifications in code and this sort of "undo" it all. [04:40] Oh why I didn't take backup... ;) [04:40] _Sime, or anyone: where is the thing that we add to set the X DPI? [04:40] Riddell: in guidance [04:41] Tonio_: yes, but which file_ [04:41] Riddell: I just saw kde now allows to do that nativelly right ? we may do that in kds then no ? [04:41] Riddell: let me search.... [04:41] /etc/X11/Xsession.d === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:41] 40-guidance-displayrestore [04:41] 40guidance-displayconfig_restore rather [04:41] jdong: well done [04:42] Tonio_: hehe, remember it distinctly from investigating the DPMS stuff :) [04:42] Riddell: since I'm preparing a kds would you like that I activate the 96 dpi in it ? [04:42] Riddell: then you just have to patch guidance [04:42] Riddell: I'll upload toonight probably [04:43] Riddell: yep that's the one /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore [04:43] very cool that ked now does that nativelly [04:43] cool indeed [04:43] but wasn't GNOME doing that since like 2.8? [04:43] === exit [n=exit@195.138.121.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] Riddell: maybe the settings will also apply to kdm, that would be cool [04:46] Riddell: btw I added to my todo list to do that in kds === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-0-43.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:49] Tonio_: Anyway, I'll play around with this, atleast resize pics & icons and colourise this to match Oxygen palette. :) [04:51] Tonio_: activate dpi where? [04:53] Riddell: in kss, where you can manage the fonts settings [04:53] Riddell: you can now fix the dpi from there ;) [04:53] Riddell: the the guidance workarround can be removed [04:53] Tonio_: but it's just a fixed DPI? [04:53] Riddell: yes, isn't that what guidance does ? [04:54] fixes dpi to 96 [04:55] well, guidance does it a bit more clever === manchicken [n=manchick@12.47.30.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:55] ah ? okay I won't touch that then [04:55] Riddell: what is the difference ? [04:55] I think we should talk to _Sime first before changing it [04:55] Riddell: sure ;) [04:55] http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture9.png [04:55] the guidance script sets it to 96 or 120 or if you have a stupidly high DPI then just leaves it alone [04:56] but the fact is that it is in kde now, which is good :) [04:56] yep [04:56] Riddell: ah okay [04:56] it deals with cases in fact... [04:56] Riddell: the point is is guidance overwriting the kde thing ? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] because now it is in kde, maybe people would like to adjust the fonts in there [04:57] Tonio_: probably not, but it depends on when in the X startup cycle it sets the DPI [04:57] and we may encounter but reports if it doesn't work [04:57] Riddell: well as you said, _Sime is the man for this so me may ask him first ;) [04:57] he'll know what about [04:58] 's/but reports/bug reports' [04:58] Riddell: Okay I'll wait and ask him :) [04:58] Tonio_: guidanance does 96, 120 or 140+ === Lure has 143 [04:58] Lure: the default values can be added in kde very easilly [04:58] this ensures that fonts always look sane [04:58] but it depends on what we want [04:58] Tonio_: true, but not for good default [04:59] if guidance overrides kde settings, that can be an issue is guidance doesn't set that properly [04:59] that's my point [04:59] for out of box, guidance is still good - if they want manual, they can yuse the kde setting [04:59] would need to test that order is right [04:59] Lure: yes, if the guidance doesn't override the settings, I'm perfectly okay with you, then we have to keep the guidance thing [05:00] but that neess to be tested :) [05:00] Lure: what if you change the dpi in kde ? [05:00] does it work ? [05:00] as long as it works, there is no reason to remove guidance [05:01]