[12:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81559 in Ubuntu "15 character password limit in GNOME login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81559
[12:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81560 in swi-prolog (universe) "request for newer swi-prolog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81560
[12:08] <pochu> !info wxwidgets feisty
[12:08] <ubotu> Package wxwidgets does not exist in feisty
[12:09] <somerville32> When you login to recovery mode, it shouldn't ask for a password to login as root, right?
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81561 in swi-prolog (universe) "CLP missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81561
[12:17] <a7p> looking at the bug stats always makes me feel bad.
[12:19] <coNP> pochu: how many bugs fixed / rejected today? :)
[12:19] <pochu> coNP: rejected some :)
[12:19] <pochu> fixed one, but not fixed. Marked as fixed :)
[12:19] <pochu> hehe
[12:19] <pochu> coNP: maybe you can help me with this:
[12:20] <pochu> I have one question: should I close bugs marked as "needs info" if they have been several months without new info? Of course, rejecting them but saying that reopen if needed
[12:24] <coNP> pochu: I guess it is better to ask the reporter once more, if the bug still exists
[12:25] <pochu> coNP: but maybe he won't ask anymore, and the package will stay opened
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81562 in firefox (main) "crash while login at launchpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81562
[12:26] <pochu> however closing it and asking the submitter to provide more info will leave the package closed, and if the reporter provies more info, then we can open it again
[12:26] <pochu> but maybe what you've said is better
[12:26] <pochu> :)
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81563 in firefox (main) "crash on "name=adminpw" in form input tag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81563
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81564 in Ubuntu "network-admin fails to switch properly between profiles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81564
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81567 in skencil (universe) "[apport]  skencil.py crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81567
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81566 in ubiquity (main) "Trying to install from liveCD." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81566
[01:44] <TheMuso> c
[01:47] <pochu> bug 81403
[01:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81403 in ubiquity "Xubuntu Installer Crashed (dup-of: 80938)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81403
[01:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80938 in ubiquity "do_remove BrokenCount assertion can fail" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80938
[01:48] <pochu> bug 81403
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81403 in ubiquity "Xubuntu Installer Crashed (dup-of: 80938)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81403
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80938 in ubiquity "do_remove BrokenCount assertion can fail" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80938
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81568 in Ubuntu "ktorrent crashes with SIGABRT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81568
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81569 in python-defaults (main) "Beryl settings manager python 1000 crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81569
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81570 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81570
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81571 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with OSError in download()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81571
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81572 in xorg (main) "apt-get install doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81572
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81573 in gedit (main) "file open fails on cifs mount with directio option set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81573
[03:14] <dsas> wow, bug 81572
[03:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81572 in xorg "apt-get install doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81572
[03:15] <dsas> it's a warty bug.
[03:15] <ajmitch> a newly reported warty bug?
[03:15] <ajmitch> I wonder what a nice error is
[03:15] <ajmitch> and why he can't install KDE
[03:16] <ajmitch> it's a little short on details
[03:26] <sfllaw> dsas: Bugs/Responses has an answer to that, I think.
[03:26] <sfllaw> Has anyone experienced a bug with kflickr?
[03:26] <sfllaw> It seems to SIGFPE on my system now.
[03:26] <sfllaw> Feisty.
[03:26] <sfllaw> I'm downloading qt-x11-free now.
[03:26] <sfllaw> :(
[03:27] <sfllaw> Maybe I should just get some sleep?
[03:28] <ajmitch> sleep may be a good thing
[03:29] <somerville32> How is the big hack-a-thon anyhow? Who is all there?
[03:29] <somerville32> Is anyone taking pictures?
[03:29] <sfllaw> somerville32: That's why I want kflickr to work!
[03:29] <somerville32> lol
[03:29] <sfllaw> ogra is taking photographs as well, but I don't know where he's putting them.
[03:29] <ajmitch> sfllaw: use f-spot!
[03:30] <sfllaw> ajmitch: But it will eat my photographs!
[03:30] <ajmitch> I just uploaded 0.3.2
[03:30] <ajmitch> it had better not
[03:30] <sfllaw> It slurps them in tastily into its database.
[03:30] <ajmitch> that's not eating
[03:30] <ajmitch> that's gently embracing them
[03:30] <sfllaw> I don't want that either.
[03:31] <somerville32> lol
[03:31] <sfllaw> No means no!
[03:31] <ajmitch> sfllaw: I got delegated somehow as universe qa person (poor me) at a motu meeting
[03:31] <somerville32> \o/
[03:31] <ajmitch> got any ideas or fun things to do?
[03:32] <ajmitch> it'll mostly be me delegating, I think :)
[03:32] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Woot!
[03:32] <sfllaw> ajmitch: I dunno, read the StableReleaseUpdates policy?
[03:32] <ajmitch> yeah, I want feisty universe to not suck, generally
[03:32] <Hobbsee> sfllaw: YOU FOOL!  No means YES!
[03:32] <ajmitch> I helped write the universe SRU policy, so yeah
[03:32] <sfllaw> Hobbsee: Whose side are you on?
[03:33] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Oh, so it's your own damned fault.
[03:33] <ajmitch> yes, blame me
[03:33] <Hobbsee> sfllaw: depends on who's on which side
[03:33] <ajmitch> but I'm focusing more on feixing feisty before release
[03:33] <sfllaw> ajmitch: That's a good plan...
[03:33] <ajmitch> rather than chasing down issues post-release
[03:33] <sfllaw> ajmitch: But those aren't really SRUs, are they?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> sfllaw: whoever writes the more sane SRU policy
[03:33] <ajmitch> nope
[03:33] <sfllaw> ajmitch: There will always be SRUs.
[03:33] <ajmitch> but I wasn't talkign about SRU in the first place :)
[03:33] <sfllaw> ajmitch: I've got a nice one targetting at libxfont!
[03:34] <sfllaw> Oh, Universe QA.
[03:34] <sfllaw> !!!
[03:34] <ajmitch> yeah
[03:34] <ajmitch> like fixing bugs
[03:34] <ajmitch> knowing what to fix
[03:34] <ajmitch> little things
[03:34] <sfllaw> I'd be happy to help, as would bdmurray, I think.
[03:34] <ajmitch> yay
[03:34] <sfllaw> somerville32: No!  I mean yes!  I mean, c**p.
[03:35] <ajmitch> I'd like to know what plans there are for testing, etc
[03:35] <ajmitch> since I know there are some plans afoot
[03:35] <sfllaw> We're doing ISO testing in the Ubuntu Forums.
[03:35] <sfllaw> We're also going to be doing some upstart testing, because that's important.
[03:35] <ajmitch> dist-upgrade testing, installation, etc?
[03:35] <sfllaw> We probably need help with some of the compiz crack that people will want to try.
[03:35] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Yes, that's part of the ISO testing.
[03:36] <ajmitch> good
[03:36] <Hobbsee> hey somerville32
[03:36] <sfllaw> And we've got some people hacking on automated test frameworks.
[03:36] <ajmitch> yeah, so I've seen
[03:36] <sfllaw> Which probably won't be done for Feisty.
[03:36] <sfllaw> Le sigh.
[03:36] <ajmitch> unfortunate
[03:37] <ajmitch> one of my insidious plans is to find out what bugs were fixed in debian that we don't have
[03:37] <sfllaw> That's a good plan.
[03:37] <ajmitch> since there's a long delay between autosync freeze & release for feisty
[03:38] <sfllaw> In theory, we should be able to track this using Malone and upstream products.
[03:38] <ajmitch> it'll require sucking in a fair bit of the BTS from debian
[03:38] <ajmitch> in theory
[03:38] <sfllaw> But I suppose just sweeping up their fixes might be a fine idea.
[03:38] <sfllaw> bughelper is a good tool for Debian doing this to us.
[03:38] <ajmitch> thankfully the bts has version tracking now, which is essential for this
[03:38] <sfllaw> Perhaps we need to make bughelper read the Debian BTS and Bugzilla as well?
[03:39] <ajmitch> so that I can see what's been fixed between 2 specific versions
[03:39] <sfllaw> Nice.
[03:39] <ajmitch> I think that would be a great idea
[03:39] <sfllaw> Man, if only we had versions.
[03:39] <sfllaw> Period.
[03:39] <ajmitch> we need it
[03:39] <ajmitch> I'll tell laserjock to tell the malone team
[03:39] <sfllaw> It is my number two wish.
[03:39] <sfllaw> I keep on telling them.
[03:39] <ajmitch> what's #1?
[03:39] <sfllaw> The changes to Status, so people don't set bugs to Confirmed.
[03:39] <ajmitch> aha
[03:40] <ajmitch> I'll get nagging as well
[03:40] <sfllaw> Or Unconfirmed.
[03:40] <sfllaw> You know, because that's not what they mean.
[03:40] <sfllaw> :/
[03:40] <sfllaw> Pulling teeth, my friend.
[03:40] <ajmitch> confusion reigns
[03:40] <sfllaw> No, I mean yes!  Dangnabit.
[03:40] <sfllaw> Hobbsee: You've confused me.
[03:40] <ajmitch> she has that power
[03:42] <ajmitch> you know, version tracking would make it easier to find bugs that were fixed in ubuntu-specific changes
[03:42] <ajmitch> combined with closing bugs on upload
[03:42] <sfllaw> I dunno when that spec will be done.
[03:42] <ajmitch> it's unfortunate
[03:43] <ajmitch> LP needs more hackers in that area
[03:43] <sfllaw> I think I might hack reportbug so that it files directly into Malone...
[03:43] <ajmitch> that would be good
[03:43] <ajmitch> if possible
[03:43] <ajmitch> since I think malone needs gpg-signing
[03:43] <sfllaw> Nope.  Just login to the web interface.
[03:44] <sfllaw> Bwah hah hah hah.
[03:44] <sfllaw> (I need to practise that.)
[03:44] <ajmitch> tricksy
[03:44] <ajmitch> until the ui changes again
[03:44] <sfllaw> I have access to beta.launchpad.net!
[03:44] <ajmitch> which is a danger with a released distro
[03:44] <ajmitch> do you know that it'll stay sane until the next release, or next SRU?
[03:45] <sfllaw> Hmm...  reportbug can ask for methods via code.launchpad.net.
[03:45] <sfllaw> I doubt that will change.
[03:45] <ajmitch> pull in python code to file bugs?
[03:45] <ajmitch> how evil
[03:45] <sfllaw> Indeed.
[03:45] <dsas> sfllaw: Heh, that reportbug bug has been open ~2.5 years. I came across it again earlier.
[03:46] <ajmitch> now that's what I call a web service
[03:46] <ajmitch> don't expose an api, expose client-side code to connect to your service
[03:47] <sfllaw> I only believe in API stability anyway.
[03:49] <sfllaw> Damn, check this out!
[03:49] <sfllaw> $ xdpyinfo
[03:49] <sfllaw> screen #0:
[03:49] <sfllaw>   dimensions:    1600x1200 pixels (0x0 millimeters)
[03:49] <sfllaw>   resolution:    -2147483648x-2147483648 dots per inch
[03:49] <ajmitch> that's an interesting resolution
[03:50] <ajmitch>   dimensions:    3200x1200 pixels (766x282 millimeters)
[03:50] <ajmitch>   resolution:    106x108 dots per inch
[03:50] <ajmitch> 0x0mm is a very small screen
[03:50] <sfllaw> Indeed.
[03:50] <sfllaw> That's why Qt is broken.
[03:50] <ajmitch> hm
[03:50] <ajmitch> a shame I'll be offline for the weekend, too many fun things to work on
[03:56] <Hobbsee> sfllaw: ie, i'm on whoever writes the less painful SRU process' side
[03:56] <sfllaw> Hmm.
[03:56] <sfllaw> That would be my side, as the SRU process for main says I do all the work.
[03:56] <ajmitch> heh
[03:58] <dsas> ajmitch: Have you saw the bug about that recently?
[03:58] <ajmitch> yet another bug about it
[03:58] <ajmitch> joy
[03:59] <dsas> ajmitch: bug 80856
[03:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80856 in gthumb "F-Spot as default for importing photos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80856
[04:00] <ajmitch> yes, I was sortof amused that he wrote a spec over 1 gconf setting
[04:01] <ajmitch> bug 36347
[04:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36347 in f-spot "f-spot should have better gnome-volume-manager integration." [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/36347
[04:02] <ajmitch> 46 bugs, I need to get going on them & do a cleanup again
[04:03] <ajmitch> I can spot about 5 duplicates straight away (crash on importing > ~3000 photos, gnome-vfs limitation)
[04:06] <dsas> yeah it was weird, I was surprised default f-spot was challenged in the bug too, though I seem to remember it got a flurry of discussion at the start of edgy
[04:06] <ajmitch> it's something I've been meaning to sort out with seb
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81576 in emerald-themes (universe) "emerald theme manager crashed on shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81576
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81577 in amarok (main) "Amarok crashes in xubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81577
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81578 in f-spot (main) "0.3.2 crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81578
[04:22] <ajmitch> oh joy, f-spot bugs
[04:22] <dsas> it is
[04:22] <ajmitch> oh, what a surprise
[04:22] <dsas> (or at least a GL issue)
[04:23] <ajmitch> problem is, it only affected some setups
[04:23] <ajmitch> and it worked for me on feisty, so I uploaded
[04:23] <ajmitch> it was worked around in svn & then the workaround reverted..
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81579 in penguin-command (universe) "Penguin commad crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81579
[04:34] <ajmitch> oh well
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81580 in dovecot (main) "Full Sieve support in Dovecot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81580
[04:43] <dsas> ajmitch: Expecting a lot of those GL crashers?
[04:43] <ajmitch> dsas: possibly
[04:43] <ajmitch> and I'm going offline for the weekend in about 5 minutes :)
[04:43] <dsas> I wonder if it's worth adding a clue to bughelper.
[04:44] <dsas> ajmitch: I have nothing much to do all weekend ;)
[04:44] <ajmitch> you'll often not get the mono stacktrace
[04:44] <ajmitch> only if the user decides to paste it in
[04:44] <dsas> ajmitch: great, so I'm going to have to push people for stacktraces
[04:44] <dsas> ajmitch: does apport record those yet?
[04:44] <ajmitch> not yet
[04:45] <ajmitch> we were discussing that a couple of days ago
[04:45] <ajmitch> need to find where to hook it into mono
[04:45] <dsas> ok, cool.
[04:46] <ajmitch> thanks
[04:46] <dsas> So if I see "An unhandled exception was thrown: GL" I can guess it's this issue? or should I make bughelper analyse the first line of the stacktrace?
[04:46] <ajmitch> iff you get a stacktrace  :)
[04:46] <dsas> heh, yeah.
[04:46] <ajmitch> if you only have stuff from apport, you won't know
[04:47] <dsas> hmm, well we'll have to see what comes I guess :)
[04:47] <ajmitch> but it's only 2 days
[04:47] <ajmitch> anyway, I'm away now, bye & thanks :)
[04:47] <dsas> g'night ajmitch
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81581 in evolution (main) "Bogofilter plugin doesn't work with bogofilter-sqlite" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81581
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81582 in xfce4-genmon-plugin (universe) "xfce4-genmon-plugin: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81582
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81583 in compiz (universe) "compiz.real crashes when switching to 'cube' workspace effect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81583
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81584 in update-manager (main) "[feisty]  Crash on dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81584
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81585 in Ubuntu "LCD panel regressions, thinkpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81585
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81586 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81586
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81587 in penguintv (universe) "[apport]  PenguinTV crashed with FileNotFoundError in find_penguintv_lib()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81587
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81589 in yaboot (main) "iMac G3 Keyboard and ramdisk load problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81589
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81590 in kdissert (universe) "Kdissert - outstanding merge of debian 1.0.6.c-1.1" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81590
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81591 in screem (main) "Screem hangs at boot when loading certain locations of files...." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81591
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81592 in screem (main) "Random Crash Reported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81592
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81594 in oregano (universe) "voltage clamps contain no labels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81594
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81593 in doodle (universe) "doodle: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81593
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81595 in Ubuntu "Sata Drive Not Detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81595
[09:08] <dholbach> good morning
[09:08] <mvo> hey dholbach!
[09:08] <mvo> good morning
[09:09] <dholbach> heya mvo
[09:09] <dholbach> seb128 will work on bughelper today!!!!111!
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81596 in Ubuntu "Feisty Herd 2 does not boot on Core 2 Duo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81596
[09:26] <WebDesigner> hello
[09:26] <WebDesigner> why ubuntu 64bit didnt support openssl? its all buggy
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81597 in popularity-contest (main) "Recommends mta despite removed mail support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81597
[09:55] <bdmurray> WebDesigner: Could you elaborate a bit?
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81598 in lvm2 (main) "[SRU]  lvm2 check if device is md is broken on big endian machines" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81598
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81599 in hardware-monitor (universe) "hardware-monitor cpu monitoring should not include iowait" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81599
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81600 in Ubuntu "kde dont start after update to kde 3.5.6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81600
[10:26] <dholbach> mvo: seb128 fixed my evolution
[10:27] <dholbach> mvo: seb128 saved me from changing to thunderbird ;-)
[10:27] <mvo> dholbach: or mutt?
[10:27] <seb128> pfiou, evo still has one user :p
[10:28] <dholbach> ROCK
[10:31] <ogra> dholbach, how did he do that ?=
[10:31] <dholbach> ogra: fixed one of my accounts to show the new messages again :)
[10:32] <ogra> hmm, k i dont have that prob ...
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81601 in bash (main) "[apport]  bash crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81601
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81602 in gedit (main) "gedit worked unexpectedly" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81602
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81603 in Ubuntu "Sound muted on Thinkpad upon reboot in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81603
[10:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81604 in Ubuntu "installer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81604
[10:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81605 in kdepim (main) "kontact module summary crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81605
[10:55] <fernando> moin all
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81607 in gdm (main) "numeric keypad blocked in session manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81607
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81608 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81606 in Ubuntu "D-Link DWL-G520+ wifi card detected as Wired network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81606
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81609 in Ubuntu "X scrambled at liveCD startup (after bios upgarde?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81609
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81610 in Ubuntu "after reboot system my mounted external hdd will be internal device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81610
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81611 in acct (main) "process accounting needs to create /var/log/account/pacct" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81611
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81612 in Ubuntu "errore while working with fat32" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81612
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81613 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  mc fails to change directories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81613
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81614 in totem (main) "Totem crashed while installing ubuntu and crashes on every run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81614
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81615 in evolution (main) "automatic contacts are disabled by default in the preferences dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81615
[12:37] <jwendell> seb128, good morning!
[12:38] <jwendell> seb128, can i foward bug 75372 to upstream and wait for author opinion about it?
[12:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75372 in gaim-libnotify "raise the window" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75372
[12:43] <seb128> hi jwendell
[12:47] <jwendell> seb128, hi. should i do that?
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81617 in luma (universe) "luma causes double free or corruption" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81617
[12:51] <dholbach> hi jwendell
[12:51] <seb128> jwendell: sure
[12:51] <seb128> thank you
[12:52] <jwendell> hello, dholbach !
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81618 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crash when booting with wifi card activated, works well if activating it later" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81618
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81620 in gnome-session (main) "Crash on every login during loding gnome-panel and beryl. It doesn't crash if the last crash is dected - message box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81620
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81619 in dcc (universe) "dcc-client init fails to create pid file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81619
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81621 in mc (universe) "problems when "cd" to Directories with german umlauts and "_" " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81621
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81622 in powermanagement-interface (main) "gdm crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81622
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81623 in Ubuntu "OpenOffice should be updated regularly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81623
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81624 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81624
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81625 in update-manager (main) "Still problems with update-manager in Italian, in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81625
[01:42] <myriam_rs> hi all
[01:43] <myriam_rs> regarding bug #81624: not reproduceable (strange word), I'll reject it (filled the bug myself)
[01:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81624 in synaptic "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81624
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81626 in Ubuntu "Sound lost on PPC Edgy update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81626
[02:03] <pochu> anybody there?
[02:03] <coNP> pochu: nobody here!
[02:04] <pochu> I think bug 81551 is a feature request, could you confirm it?
[02:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81551 in liferea "New messages not noticable by status icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81551
[02:04] <pochu> hi coNP!
[02:04] <pochu> hehe
[02:04] <coNP> hey, you should have known I am her :)
[02:04] <pochu> didn't know
[02:04] <pochu> :(
[02:04] <pochu> you are her?
[02:04] <pochu> hehe
[02:04] <pochu> :P
[02:04] <coNP> okay, s/her/here/g
[02:05] <coNP> I think it should be marked confirmed (and set importance to wishlist)
[02:05] <coNP> (the latter can only be done by a QA member)
[02:06] <coNP> and forward this support request upstream
[02:06] <pochu> ok
[02:23] <pochu> coNP: done :)
[02:23] <coNP> pochu: took too many time :)
[02:25] <pochu> coNP: no, but I forget to tell you
[02:25] <pochu> hehe
[02:25] <coNP> pochu: okay for now :)
[02:25] <pochu> I've also done bug 78885
[02:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78885 in liferea "no translation template for liferea 1.2 series" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78885
[02:25] <coNP> another liferea bug, just for you, pochu :)
[02:26] <pochu> hehe
[02:26] <pochu> I like liferea!
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81628 in qdvdauthor (multiverse) "qdvdauthor dumps core on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81628
[02:26] <coNP> I tried because I read you spec. about it
[02:26] <pochu> hehe
[02:26] <pochu> :)
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81629 in gaupol (universe) "Please sync gaupol 0.7.2-1 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81629
[02:34] <christof-kr> hehe, tracking down bugs is fun... if i only had the time to fix them myself...
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81631 in pam (main) "Ubuntu should come with some limits (ulimit)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81631
[02:41] <seb128> anybody figuring what makes backtrace being broken when there is no debug package installed win a cool point
[02:42] <coNP> seb128: is is a general thing, or a specific to some bug?
[02:43] <seb128> looks like non-specific
[02:43] <seb128> happens with recently built package and old packages as well
[02:44] <seb128> neither glib, nor binutils, nor gdb, nor gcc, nor linux changed recently
[02:47] <coNP> Can you help me to reproduce it? (Which version of ubuntu and a package that will be broken)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> seb128: you mean you have to have a debug package for backtrace to complete without error?
[02:52] <seb128> any package
[02:52] <gnomefreak> seb128: libc6 was just updated btw
[02:52] <seb128> get a crash on feisty
[02:52] <seb128> gnomefreak: I didn't get that update yet then, that's not it
[02:53] <gnomefreak> i got it this morning a couple hours ago
[02:53] <seb128> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gdb/gdb_6.4.90.dfsg-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[02:53] <seb128> ups
[02:53] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/81620
[02:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81620 in libice "Crash on every login during loding gnome-panel and beryl. It doesn't crash if the last crash is dected - message box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[02:53] <seb128> that bug by example
[02:53] <seb128> or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/81624
[02:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81624 in synaptic "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Rejected] 
[02:53] <seb128> the backtrace have lot of "??"
[02:53] <seb128> and that's like that for all the bugs we get since yesterday
[02:54] <seb128> or maybe before
[02:56] <gnomefreak> hmmm i have seen that before but never thought too much about it. that is weird
[02:56] <cypher1> bug #81627
[02:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81627 in ubuntu-iso-tests "ubuntu: 20070126 i386 desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81627
[02:56] <cypher1> what is it about
[02:56] <cypher1> i recieved an email for testing it
[02:56] <gnomefreak> yesterday there was very little updated due to LP breakage so nothing really changed
[02:56] <seb128> cypher1: that's a test mail, ignore it
[02:57] <cypher1> seb128, ok :)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> getting alot of those lately
[02:59] <gnomefreak> whats with the 6+ parts of a backtrace anyway. seems like a new trend
[03:01] <christof-kr> no that's strange. the diskmounter applet doen't work when killing/restating from panel. when killing, starting from console and then hitting restart works
[03:01] <christof-kr> any idea why?
[03:01] <christof-kr> no = now
[03:01] <christof-kr> doesn't work means that it doesn't show any drives
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81636 in gdm (main) "GDM has no screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81636
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81637 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request]  pythondialog (2.7-1) from debian unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81637
[03:05] <gnomefreak> GDM never had a screensaver
[03:06] <coNP> Yep, we are getting bugs like "Ubuntu does not make me coffee" :)
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81635 in gnomebaker (universe) "segfault when renaming items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81635
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81638 in ekiga (main) "[apport]  ekiga crashed with SIGSEGV in SIPEndPoint" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81638
[03:06] <gnomefreak> :) wish it would
[03:06] <gnomefreak> leaves the GDm bug to seb128 or dholbach
[03:07] <coNP> gnomefreak: GDM screensaver, or ubuntu coffee-maker? :)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> coNP: coffee of course ;)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> my screen shuts down after a while so nothing burns into it
[03:08] <gnomefreak> the GDM screen ha always just went black after a while fo rme (due to monitor settings i believe)
[03:08] <gnomefreak> has
[03:09] <seb128> no way we use a screensaver there
[03:09] <gnomefreak> didnt even think you could
[03:09] <seb128> dpms is supposed to suspend the monitor
[03:09] <cypher1> can anyone work on developing a specification ?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> spec for????
[03:10] <seb128> yep
[03:10] <seb128> that doesn't mean it'll be accepted though
[03:12] <christof-kr> i'm trying to debug drivemount_applet2, but gdb gives me wrong line numbers :/
[03:12] <cypher1> like can i join a team who is starting or already working on a spec ?
[03:14] <cypher1> christof-kr, you may be using a wrong source code version
[03:14] <christof-kr> i was using apt-source
[03:14] <christof-kr> apt-get source
[03:14] <christof-kr> and installed the -dbg package
[03:15] <seb128> christof-kr: why do you say it's give wrong line numbers?
[03:16] <christof-kr> wait...
[03:16] <christof-kr> okay, i must have been doing something wrong, now it works
[03:17] <christof-kr> but a problem is still there: i don't know how to find out why the applet doen't work when started by the panel
[03:17] <christof-kr> and works when started by console
[03:17] <coNP> christof-kr: which bug?
[03:18] <coNP> What do you think about bug 38658? It has been marked confirmed / wishlist, but I think it cannot be without changing default Unix behaviour. I think it should be rejected, suggesting to discuss somewhere else if defaults are really to be changed.
[03:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38658 in Ubuntu "Adding group to user requires her to logout/login" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38658
[03:18] <seb128> coNP: no, it's a valid wishlist
[03:18] <christof-kr> coNP, dhe drivemount applet doesn't show any drives. when i kill it, i get a dialog that asks me if i want to reload it.
[03:18] <christof-kr> when i do it, it still doesn't work
[03:19] <christof-kr> when i wait with clicking on "reload" and start drivemount_applet2 on console and then hit reload, it works
[03:19] <coNP> seb128: how can this be fixed?
[03:19] <seb128> coNP: that's the KDE equivalent for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/48262 apparently
[03:19] <coNP> christof-kr: I understand, but have you / someone else already reported this?
[03:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 48262 in gst "[users-admin]  users & groups: should have some mention than a session restart is required to apply a group change" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] 
[03:20] <coNP> seb128: okay, I see. Thanks!
[03:21] <seb128> coNP: depends on what he's using, if he's using a graphical tool the program could display a "you need to reboot to apply that change"
[03:21] <seb128> np
[03:21] <coNP> seb128: no reboot is needed
[03:21] <seb128> "restart the session" I meant
[03:21] <coNP> okay
[03:22] <christof-kr> coNP, did not found such a bug yet
[03:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81639 in uqm (multiverse) "please sync uqm(multiverse) from unstable(non-free)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81639
[03:24] <coNP> christof-kr: maybe you should report it if you don't mind, it is easier to discuss it then
[03:24] <christof-kr> yes, wanted to report it, but also wanted to provide as much information as possible
[03:24] <christof-kr> and it seems to be not that common or someone else had this reportead already
[03:27] <coNP> christof-kr: dapper/edgy/feisty, by the way?
[03:27] <christof-kr> feisty
[03:27] <christof-kr> didn't happen in edgy
[03:27] <coNP> cool, I try to reproduce this then
[03:28] <christof-kr> sometimes it worked though.
[03:33] <cypher1> seb128, following on the earlier spec doubt.. if i would like to work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoUsplashTimeout or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsplashFsckProgress.. can i do it ?
[03:33] <seb128> sure
[03:34] <seb128> anybody can work on anything
[03:34] <seb128> patches are always welcome
[03:34] <seb128> better to mail the ubuntu-devel if you start working a spec though
[03:34] <seb128> to make sure nobody is already working on it
[03:34] <seb128> and you can get useful comments about it
[03:34] <seb128> and other people know you are working on it then
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81640 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Bad berformance with io scheduler cfg (which might be standard in generic kernel)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81640
[03:35] <cypher1> seb128, so there are no prerequisites for that.. like i can learn usplash while working on it.. will that be acceptable ?
[03:35] <seb128> well, that's opensource, nobody require you to do anything
[03:35] <seb128> you read the code you want
[03:35] <seb128> you send the patches you want
[03:36] <seb128> people accept them or not then depending on what they expect and what the patch do, etc
[03:36] <cypher1> seb128, ok good .. thank you
[03:36] <seb128> np
[03:36] <cypher1> geser, hi
[03:37] <geser> hi cypher1
[03:37] <cypher1> :)
[03:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81666 in nautilus (main) "Copy disc missing in nautilus contextual menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81666
[03:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81667 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Suspend to ram only working once, oops on second time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81667
[03:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81668 in smart (universe) "[feisty]  smart does not upgrade all packages at times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81668
[03:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81669 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kinit message in boot [Console 0] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81669
[03:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81670 in Ubuntu "failed to initialize HAL with automated login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81670
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81657 in f-spot (main) "Fatal error when starting the application (dup-of: 81578)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81657
[04:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81675 in qt-x11-free (main) "qt3 designer crashes x on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81675
[04:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81677 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with IndexError in create_crash_bug_title()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81677
[04:36] <bddebian> Boo
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81676 in ubiquity (main) "partition editor and mount point selector should display the same labels of the "computer" place" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81676
[04:37] <marnanel> boo
[04:41] <bddebian> Doesn't Bug #81671 seem pretty obvious or am I missing something?
[04:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81671 in Ubuntu "Install failed [Errno 28]  No space left on device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81671
[04:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81680 in evolution (main) "Should not prompt for timezone at first startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81680
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81671 in ubiquity (main) "Install failed [Errno 28]  No space left on device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81671
[05:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81685 in beagle (main) "error message that beagle has crashed on bootup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81685
[05:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81686 in qt-x11-free (main) "SIGFPE in create_dpis() in QPaintDevice::~QPaintDevice" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81686
[05:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81688 in evolution (main) "Evolution and firefox in feisty do not interact properly when choosing "send link" from firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81688
[05:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81682 in qemu (universe) "Typo in qemu-img output." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81682
[05:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81683 in ubiquity (main) "language packs are not installed if network is not available during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81683
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81673 in Ubuntu "No KPlayer package in Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81673
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81687 in ubiquity (main) "feisty installation does not umount mounted partitions before their creation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81687
[05:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81691 in pypar2 (universe) "Please sync pypar2 1.0-1 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81691
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81693 in klibido (universe) "[FEISTY]  Crash when opening a nzb in klibido" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81693
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81695 in xorg (main) "[Edgy]  xorg.conf contains entries for wacom tabled even if it's not installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81695
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81694 in Ubuntu "Abiword prints only once" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81694
[06:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81696 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in timeout)()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81696
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81697 in Ubuntu "after installing an ethernet card and changing hostname sudo stops working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81697
[06:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81699 in beryl-manager (universe) "Beryl freezes, create a crash report and the continues" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81699
[06:44] <afflux> Anybody understood the last sentence of bug 81699 and want to explain it to me? I can't get his point.
[06:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81699 in beryl-manager "Beryl freezes, create a crash report and the continues" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81699
[06:46] <afflux> i'm talking about the "but I think that I have to inform the gnome bug report wizard appear."
[06:49] <joumetal> afflux maybe he thiks it's worth reporting because apport produces crash report. maybe.
[06:50] <afflux> I guess this is right. I'll reject....
[06:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81700 in Ubuntu "Any user can shut down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81700
[06:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81701 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Crash when trying to undo moving an email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81701
[06:53] <joumetal> I'll take a look at bug 81700
[06:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81700 in Ubuntu "Any user can shut down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81700
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81702 in sanduhr (universe) "sanduhr remove problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81702
[07:12] <jwendell> pochu, about bug 62957, i guess there is some problem in sf track, because there is no 'feature request' item in its track system anymore
[07:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62957 in liferea "Ability to copy a text" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/62957
[07:12] <pochu> jwendell, oh, it was a feature request?
[07:12] <pochu> didn't know, I tough it was a feature request reported on the bug tracker
[07:13] <jwendell> pochu, yes, liferea developers have changed from bug to feature request
[07:13] <pochu> jwendell, it was to know the status, in order to close or leave open the bug report
[07:13] <jwendell> pochu, but i can't find it anymore, and i've deleted my emails
[07:13] <pochu> oh
[07:13] <jwendell> pochu, surely it's open yet
[07:13] <pochu> oh, well
[07:13] <pochu> then do I open a new bug report?
[07:14] <jwendell> pochu, no, let's wait... maybe it's a temporary problem with them
[07:14] <pochu> jwendell: ok
[07:14] <pochu> but I don't think it's a problem
[07:17] <joumetal> I hope bug 81700 is rejected kindly enough.
[07:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81700 in Ubuntu "Any user can shut down" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81700
[07:21] <jwendell> joumetal, when you triage a bug, subscribe to it. If the reporter replies, you will be notified by email
[07:23] <joumetal> jwendell ok. subscribing. Thanks about that tip.
[07:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81703 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in _gst_parse_yylex()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81703
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81704 in banshee (universe) "ERROR         GST_PIPELINE ./grammar.y:494:_gst_parse__yyparse:" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81704
[07:26] <coNP> however, joumetal I think it is still a bug
[07:26] <coNP> you *should not* run gconf-editor as root
[07:27] <coNP> but setting the key can_hibernate to false *must not* imply that users are unable to shut down
[07:27] <jwendell> joumetal, i think you were precipited in reject that bug. Do you know what you are doing?
[07:27] <coNP> jwendell: what do you think of? The same bug (bug 81700)?
[07:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81700 in Ubuntu "Any user can shut down" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81700
[07:28] <jwendell> coNP, yep
[07:28] <joumetal> jwendell I am not eactly sure. hmm. Should have asked first.
[07:28] <jwendell> joumetal, go back, change status to need info and ask the user
[07:28] <jwendell> it's not late :)
[07:29] <coNP> jwendell, joumetal: what do you think about what I have written ^^^
[07:30] <jwendell> joumetal, i said my opinion
[07:30] <joumetal> jwendell doing that soon. hmm I think we should ask some info.
[07:33] <joumetal> coNP hmm. it's still a bug. What to do with that?
[07:35] <coNP> Okay. I think there is two bugs here. One mentioned by the user: any user can shut down.
[07:36] <coNP> This would imply changing defaults, therefore---theoretically---further discussion is needed. However, I don't think this behavior will change in Ubuntu. This part can be rejected.
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81705 in evince (main) "evince hangs while trying to open more than one instance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81705
[07:37] <joumetal> coNP ok. this was my first thought.
[07:37] <coNP> The other one: that the changes he made broke the system is a real bug.
[07:38] <coNP> jwendell: what do you think about it? You said it is a valid bug?
[07:40] <jwendell> coNP, i said: you should be more patient, not reject any bug without a clear explanation
[07:41] <joumetal> maybe it's desired feature in sitekiosk setup.
[07:41] <coNP> jwendell: okay, thanks. Now it's clear for me, no offense meant.
[07:41] <coNP> joumetal: sure, you're right.
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81706 in Ubuntu "synaptic-errs on ibook3-snow (GNOME-inst.not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81706
[08:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81707 in emacs-chess (universe) "emacs-chess instalation doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81707
[08:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81708 in totem (main) "Firefox crashes when streaming QT mov using TotemMozilla plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81708
[08:18] <pochu> hey, anybody there?
[08:18] <pochu> coNP?
[08:20] <joumetal> pochu here
[08:22] <pochu> joumetal: not sure what package is bug 81706
[08:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81706 in Ubuntu "synaptic-errs on ibook3-snow (GNOME-inst.not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81706
[08:22] <pochu> maybe synaptic, maybe libglade
[08:23] <joumetal> pochu sorry can't help with 81706
[08:23] <coNP> hi pochu
[08:26] <pochu> hi coNP!
[08:26] <pochu> wait
[08:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81710 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81710
[08:33] <pochu> coNP: what do u think about bug 81706?
[08:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81706 in Ubuntu "synaptic-errs on ibook3-snow (GNOME-inst.not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81706
[08:34] <coNP> pochu: one sec.
[08:34] <pochu> coNP: np
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81711 in xfsprogs (main) "xfs_repair crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81711
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81713 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "sky2 hardware hung? flushing (System crash (reproduceable))" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81713
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81715 in Ubuntu "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81715
[08:44] <coNP> pochu: what about 81706?
[08:44] <pochu> what package? synaptic or libglade?
[08:44] <pochu> coNP: ^
[08:45] <coNP> pochu: okay
[08:49] <jwendell> bug 81706
[08:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81706 in Ubuntu "synaptic-errs on ibook3-snow (GNOME-inst.not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81706
[08:50] <jwendell> coNP, you can ask the user to run the command in english
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81717 in xfsprogs (main) "newly created XFS filesystem is corrupt; mount fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81717
[08:50] <jwendell> LANG=C synaptic
[08:50] <coNP> jwendell: I understand German
[08:50] <coNP> this is not a problem, i.e., not *this* is the problem :)
[08:50] <jwendell> coNP, right, but the error can be related to translation...
[08:51] <coNP> jwendell: oh, no, some .glade file cannot be found
[08:51] <coNP> okay, you are right
[08:53] <jwendell> coNP, btw, those messages appear here too, but synaptic runs normally...
[08:53] <jwendell> coNP, btw, if there is a bug, definately is a synaptic one, not libglade
[08:54] <coNP> okay, pochu: your turn :9
[08:54] <coNP> thanks, jwendell
[08:54] <jwendell> np
[08:55] <pochu> done
[08:55] <pochu> thanks ;)
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81718 in gnomebaker (universe) "gnome baker unexpectedly crash and exit " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81718
[08:57] <marnanel> better than crashing and not exiting, I suppose
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81719 in rafkill (universe) "crashed within level 3 during shooting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81719
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81720 in Ubuntu "edubuntu feisty install iso not working on intel core duo cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81720
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81721 in upgrade-system (universe) "6.06-to-6.10 Upfailed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81721
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81723 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81723
[09:11] <pochu> coNP: should I reject a bug if it is about a package not from ubuntu archives?
[09:11] <coNP> pochu: which one?
[09:12] <pochu> Bug #81718
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81718 in gnomebaker "gnome baker unexpectedly crash and exit " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81718
[09:12] <pochu> the package isn't from the ubuntu repos
[09:12] <pochu> as he is using gnomebaker 0.6.1-1
[09:13] <pochu> coNP: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnomebaker/
[09:13] <pochu> the latest version on the ubuntu archive is 0.6.0
[09:13] <coNP> pochu: I see
[09:14] <coNP> I think you should ask the user how gnomebaker has been installed
[09:14] <coNP> but I guess it can be rejected
[09:14] <coNP> but why not be nice, if you can? :)
[09:15] <pochu> coNP: hehe
[09:15] <pochu> I'll a good person and will ask him
[09:15] <pochu> :)
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81722 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Laptop sometimes fails to resume from ACPI S3 suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81722
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81724 in rapidsvn (universe) "right-clicking in the main window segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81724
[09:17] <pochu> coNP: I can't stand users who don't attach logs, but insert them as text
[09:17] <pochu> hehe
[09:18] <coNP> pochu: sure :)
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81725 in kdegraphics (main) "Moving KPDF menu entry to Office instead of Graphics?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81725
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81726 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in panel_make_unique_desktop_uri()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81726
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81727 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81727
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81728 in crack-attack (universe) "crack-attack only partly visible when win.x>win.y" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81728
[09:33] <pochu> !info liferea feisty
[09:33] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 616 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81729 in wink (multiverse) "Please sync wink (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81729
[09:50] <marnanel> wow, that's nifty
[09:50] <marnanel> !info fast-user-switch-applet feisty
[09:50] <ubotu> fast-user-switch-applet: Applet for the GNOME panel providing a menu to switch between users. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 598 kB, installed size 2592 kB
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81731 in Ubuntu "nVidia kernel module version changes after reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81731
[09:58] <pochu> hey, bug 81731 is about a user who installed the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website, instead from the repos. Should I close the report and ask the user to install the ubuntu repos one?
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81731 in Ubuntu "nVidia kernel module version changes after reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81731
[10:05] <gnomefreak> pochu: yes or to file bug at nvidia.com or whatever thier bug site is
[10:06] <gnomefreak> -or +and
[10:06] <pochu> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[10:06] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81732 in kdebase (main) "ksysguardapplet does not reconnect to eth0 after hibernate (suspend2disk/resume)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81732
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81733 in gaim (main) "GAIM crash - no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81733
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ther eis always a reason something crashes :(
[10:06] <dsas> it's just not always apparent!
[10:07] <dsas> I wonder how many results would be returned for a bug search on firefox "no reason"
[10:07] <gnomefreak> if hes running feisty its apparent ;)
[10:07] <gnomefreak> dsas: too damn many
[10:08] <gnomefreak> i spent almost 48 hours working on mozilla bugs got maybe 10 closed
[10:08] <dsas> gnomefreak: ouch :(
[10:08] <gnomefreak> thats part of my job for mozillateam
[10:08] <dsas> gnomefreak: I pretty much lost my appetite for mozilla bugs.
[10:09] <dsas> I keep my eye on the odd thunderbird bug...
[10:09] <gnomefreak> its calm and fairly easy at points
[10:09] <dsas> it's nice to see the new mozilla team being pretty active though.
[10:10] <gnomefreak> yes it is just wish it would have been done sooner
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81734 in Ubuntu "Live-cd crash at gnome start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81734
[10:11] <dsas> gnomefreak: Were you the person who was working on a panel applet to keep an eye on LP bugs?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> dsas: im the one that wanted to get one running but i never did
[10:11] <dsas> gnomefreak: ah, that's a shame.
[10:12] <gnomefreak> dsas: might not really be needed
[10:12] <gnomefreak> dsas: afaik the spec for bughelper to have a web interface is good and will hofully be accepted
[10:13] <dsas> gnomefreak: Hopefully. It doesn't really have anything to keep track of "pet bugs" though
[10:13] <gnomefreak> dsas: you work on that make a panel applet :) you would know what your doing. it would take me a month or 6 to get one fairly workable
[10:14] <gnomefreak> near even
[10:15] <dsas> gnomefreak: panel applets are notoriously hard to make anyway :)
[10:15] <gnomefreak> dsas: yeah they are
[10:15] <dsas> gnomefreak: It's probably easier than you think!
[10:16] <gnomefreak> from what i saw on the page for clues it looks harder than i thought it would be (not so much the XML part but the main parts
[10:17] <gnomefreak> dont you have to define everything it needs to look for in the crash report?
[10:17] <dsas> gnomefreak: Just enough that the report can be identified.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ok so in this order i need to learn to read crash reports/backtraces/ect much better than now, than lear XML, than learn to put it al together
[10:18] <dsas> uhm, basically. the xml part is fairly simple though if you follow the existing examples.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> true
[10:19] <dsas> gnomefreak: You do  have to know what you're looking for in the stacktraces though. Got to look into that more myself.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> thats the hardest part of bugs
[10:21] <dsas> some seem to be more easier than others though, for example when python or mono throw exceptions...
[10:21] <dsas> sometimes.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> python i can agree with i havent played too much with mono though
[10:29] <dsas> nor me, I looked at bug 81578 earlier for example, and it seems that it should be easy to pick up any dupes of it. especially as it's a crash on new code
[10:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81578 in f-spot "0.3.2 crashes" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81578
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81740 in gnome-terminal (main) "reordering tabs disable key bindings for 1 time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81740
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81741 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Asus WL-167G with RT73 not recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81741
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81742 in vmware-player (multiverse) "VMware Player should use ALSA and not /dev/dsp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81742
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81743 in crossvc (multiverse) "Please sync crossvc (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81743
[10:42] <tsmithe> like bug 81742 will get fixed soon
[10:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81742 in vmware-player "VMware Player should use ALSA and not /dev/dsp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81742
[10:42] <coNP> tsmithe: VMware fixes it?
[10:43] <tsmithe> heh... do they look at malone?
[10:43] <coNP> oh
[10:43] <tsmithe> :)
[10:43] <coNP> I did not see "like"
[10:43] <coNP> I tought you wrote "bug will get fixed soon"
[10:43] <tsmithe> hehe :)
[10:43] <coNP> and was surprised :)
[10:44] <tsmithe> lols
[10:44] <coNP> do you triage it?
[10:44] <tsmithe> nope
[10:44] <coNP> because I just started
[10:44] <tsmithe> i just noticed it
[10:44] <coNP> okay, then
[10:44] <tsmithe> i did too
[10:44] <tsmithe> i'm rather concentrating on alsa (or at least trying to)
[10:45] <coNP> okay
[10:46] <tsmithe> hi pochu_
[10:46] <pochu> hi tsmithe
[10:46] <pochu> :)
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81744 in conserver (multiverse) "Please sync conserver (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81744
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81747 in packagesearch (universe) "packagesearch crashes on search pattern input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81747
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81748 in sylpheed (universe) "jpilot address items are not visible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81748
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81750 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81750
[11:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81746 in xchat (universe) "Xchat crashes after closing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81746
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81751 in ekiga (main) "remove ekiga from default ubuntu-installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81751
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81753 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "snd-hda-intel : no sound at boot but after reload of the module it works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81753
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81754 in gaim (main) "gaim crashed suddenly for no reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81754
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81755 in gaim (main) "gaim crashed suddenly for no reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81755
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81756 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting (universe) "Does not work on a Intel DG965WG with i965" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81756
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81757 in xchat-systray (universe) "Duplicate entry in tasklist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81757
[11:45] <coNP> do you think bug 81757 is a real bug?
[11:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81757 in xchat-systray "Duplicate entry in tasklist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81757
[11:45] <coNP> I would reject it. Because it is only that xchat-systray is needed no more.
[11:48] <welshbyte> assuming it's happening because the reporter dist-upgraded to feisty, it's a bug in the sense that feisty's xchat package doesn't replace xchat-systray
[11:50] <coNP> thanks, welshbyte
[11:50] <welshbyte> best to find out if my assumption is correct, i guess
[11:50] <coNP> welshbyte: what to find out?
[11:51] <coNP> I can confirm, it happens if you upgrade to feisty
[11:51] <welshbyte> ah, ok. well i can confirm it doesn't happen on a fresh feisty install :)
[11:52] <coNP> okay
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81759 in wmii (universe) "Non-ascii characters rendered improperly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81759