=== selinuxium [n=selinium@80-193-7-210.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@pool-00a7b.externet.hu] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["c-x] === AlinuxOS [n=AlinuxOS@host238-125-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d4281d.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mnoir [n=bos@nwlnnhbas01-pool0-a41.nwlnnh.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mnoir [n=bos@nwlnnhbas01-pool0-a41.nwlnnh.tds.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Time] === dougsko__ [n=doug@c-71-206-215-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dougsko_1 [n=doug@c-71-206-215-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.38.102] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.38.102] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === |Crusher| [n=You@124-254-93-204-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.38.102] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.38.102] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit_ [n=nothlit@pcd648209.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121dvu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mwalsh [n=chatzill@ool-44c2311e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:53] WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this? [04:02] to disc you mean? [04:02] are you trying to make an iso from a disc or burn an iso to a disc === nothlit_ [n=nothlit@pcd341169.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:06] making an iso is dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/user/file.iso === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121dvu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit_ [n=nothlit@pcd341069.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit__ [n=nothlit@pcd341006.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr47247@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === eternalswd [n=eternals@wcnat-41-43.wheaton.edu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr47264@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DerXero [n=patrick@dslb-082-083-128-110.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === eternalswd [n=eternals@wcnat-41-43.wheaton.edu] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42811.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jackrazz [n=jackrazz@209-144-237-46-dyndsl.oplink.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === BuffaloSoldier [n=integral@ubuntu/member/BuffaloSoldier] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nohlp [n=nohlp@ip-217-24-122-2.parma.ru] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nohlp [n=nohlp@ip-217-24-122-2.parma.ru] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez -> bed === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@pool-00a7b.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@pool-00a7b.externet.hu] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["c-x] === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === lamakungfu [n=bill@c-24-14-129-6.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o jenda] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+b *!*@ubuntu/member/mez] by jenda === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o jenda] by ChanServ [12:35] Mez: muted till you turn off public away. === emonkey [n=emonkey@adsl-89-217-0-177.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === TheOddOne [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === TheOddOne [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Kopete] === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === EDVINAS_ [i=usr5@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o Mez] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-b *!*@ubuntu/member/mez] by Mez === LjL [n=ljl@81-208-36-87.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr36@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@ti521110a080-5884.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.37.111] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o jenda] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o jenda] by ChanServ === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o Mez] by ChanServ === _eric_ [n=eric@140.38-65-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mnoir [n=bos@nwlnnhbas01-pool0-a41.nwlnnh.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@mail.faia.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:32] mnoir: [05:32] hi [05:32] nice and quiet [05:32] better for extended conversation and i detect a need for a lesson [05:32] :) yes please [05:33] 1. the utility less would be a good vchoice if you have not yet installed most === joe4 [n=joe@pool-70-106-199-232.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === joe4 [n=joe@pool-70-106-199-232.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [05:33] try ' less messages' [05:34] tell me if you get a screenfull [05:34] I get a single line [05:34] ?? [05:34] paste line? [05:34] Jan 26 11:19:35 FAIA-CACTI syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart. [05:34] the restart of my machine, apparently [05:34] that is it in the file messages? [05:34] yes [05:35] ok - ls -l | grep messages please [05:35] ok [05:35] you get several? [05:35] we have 5 messages files [05:35] try less messages.0 [05:36] log rotate automatically is filing them [05:36] note the older ones are compressed [05:36] got a bunch [05:36] a bunch of information [05:36] messages.0 is the most recent - ru lessing it? [05:37] yes, I am viewing it via less [05:37] ok - some of the keystrokes available in less [05:37] type a capital G [05:37] Jan 26 00:34:54 FAIA-CACTI -- MARK -- << that is the last entry before our restart [05:37] takes me to the end? [05:38] yes [05:38] slash followed by a string searches [05:38] # followed by G goes to that line [05:38] searches down, correct? [05:38] yes [05:38] there is a go back but i forgot it - plus up and down arrows work [05:39] lowercase g takes me to the top [05:39] 'most' is a better version [05:39] cool - i didnt know that - probably g is search backwards [05:39] no number means highest (or lowest :) ) [05:39] ok, I think I got this [05:40] ok - you got a big gap [05:40] now, the messages log isn't helping [05:40] b/c of the gap [05:40] often it does not [05:40] you can look at system and daemon [05:40] but i bet you find nothing [05:40] feels like a mobo, ram ot diak problem [05:41] ot diak= or disk [05:41] done memtest yet? [05:41] before I installed [05:41] yes [05:41] you might want to use tune2fs to set fsck to occur every boot [05:42] how old is machine? [05:42] the actual hardware is fairly used and old [05:42] but the install is fairly new [05:42] there can be weaknesses in drivers for very old systems plus hardware is suspect [05:43] i figured that install was new [05:43] ok [05:43] I've looked in the syslog [05:43] also, linux tends to drive hardware harder [05:43] anything interesting? [05:43] the last activity is a snmp request to localhost [05:43] around time of failure? [05:43] from the cacti install I have [05:43] yes [05:44] hmm - snmp stuff is fairly low level [05:44] it is possible hat sumpin in it was not very happy [05:44] hat=that [05:44] well, I can't imagine what [05:45] why? [05:45] there is plenty of drive space [05:45] the system has run fine for the last few weeks [05:45] might not be due to running out of space... [05:45] what other logs did you say check? [05:46] the reason i started with ls -latr is it shows you reverse update order [05:46] this gives you a start on which logs are most active [05:46] on a treasure hunt like this, you need educated guesses [05:47] nothing is set in stone. [05:47] since the issue is clearly very sporadic you will be meditating for a while before you find the pattern [05:47] unless it get worse. [05:47] or never happens again :) [05:48] so there isn't much I can do but wait for it to happen again/ [05:48] ? [05:48] that is what i think [05:48] except making the system do some extra checking like fsck every boot for a while [05:49] and run some memtests using the special boot from grub [05:49] o, I have a question real quick [05:49] k [05:49] how do I check free drive space via the cli? [05:49] df -h is the most popular way [05:49] thank god [05:50] ?? [05:50] I have been looking for that forever [05:50] it is a simple question :) [05:50] also remember thar man is your friend at the cli [05:50] thar=that [05:50] yes, I agree [05:50] type man df [05:50] oh - you know about man [05:50] but if I type man drive space [05:50] good [05:51] lol [05:51] ;p [05:51] I have to know the command before I can learn about it [05:51] no - only works for commands, configs etc [05:51] :) [05:51] consider installing most [05:51] well, thanks, you've helped [05:51] it is more like a text editor but assumes no editing [05:52] or no changing [05:52] k - back to the playpen :) === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@mail.faia.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === mnoir [n=bos@nwlnnhbas01-pool0-a41.nwlnnh.tds.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Time] === darich [n=trickyki@host86-144-145-60.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix_ [n=lorents@ti521110a080-4451.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.162] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ShakaGoldSaint [n=eleazar@190.37.13.36] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.132.246] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === warlock [i=w@81.216.76.10] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [09:36] gonna see if it workde [09:36] warlock: this time i've tried it, and it seemed to [09:37] ye works mate [09:37] thanks, you saved me 4hours [09:37] BIG thanks. [09:37] you're quite welcome :) want to know the specifics of that command's parts? [09:37] else i'd have to edit all files manually [09:37] sure [09:38] would help :) [09:38] warlock: well, the first part if a for loop. for VariableName in ShellPattern ; do ................. ; done repeats the "..." for every file matched by ShellPattern (*.conf in this case) [09:39] warlock: of course, every time it sets VariableName to the name of the relevant file (i've called that variable File) [09:39] oi === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [09:39] I always tend to learn something new :p [09:39] warlock: "sed" is used in this case to change text into other text. the "-i" option means it changes a file "in place" (i.e. it just changes the files, not output the changes to the console) [09:40] warlock: the "s/blah/blah/" syntax contains regular expressions... in general, s/blah1/blah2/ changes "blah1" into "blah2" [09:41] warlock: in that command specifically, mytest= is just mached, then the .* means "match anything" ("." is "any character", and "*" is "any number of times") [09:41] warlock: then the $ means "end of line" (probably reduntant) [09:41] ooh [09:41] warlock: the round brackets ( ) mean "remember this part" (they needed to be escaped with \, so $ and $, but this is not really important) [09:42] warlock: and in fact, the .* part is remembered, and recalled by "\1" later - \1 means "recall the first thing you remembered" [09:42] warlock: so, if you had mytest=abcdefg, it will repeat mytest= and the abcdefg again [09:42] oic [09:42] warlock: then the ",something2" is simply added [09:43] perfect :) [09:43] so, s/ mytest= ( .* ) / mytest= \1 ,something2 / [09:43] the final "g" simply means "repeat this for every instance", so if there's more than one "mytest=", it'll work for all of them [09:43] then "$File" of course is that File variable we defined in the "for" command [09:44] (when using variables - as opposed to declaring them - you need to prefix a $) [09:45] :o === maploin [n=oin@86.123.200.16] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jikanter [n=jordan@cs-user79.wireless.uic.edu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@pool-00a7b.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@pool-00a7b.externet.hu] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["c-x] === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom