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ademanhey i'm doing a sort of test build of the binary package for code::blocks, and pbuilder is downloading g++ 3.4  wtf?  Should i change it to 4.1 in the control file (i assume that's what's making pbuilder download it)12:48
jdongis it building with g++ 3.4 or 4.1?12:49
jdongit might FTBFS with newer GCC  and that's why it asks deliberately for an older one.12:49
ademanFTBFS?12:50
ademanwell pbuilder is downloading 3.4, so i assume it's going to build with 3.412:50
ademanhaven't quite gotten there yet :-)12:50
jdonglet it do it first12:50
jdongand see if you can contact the previous maintainer12:51
jdongsee if ther ewas a reason why it builds against 3.412:51
ademanwell the upstream packager wrote the debian dir12:51
ademanhe kinda looked at me funny when i suggested letting the individual distros take care of packaging for themselves12:52
LaserJockno don't I feel smart, I just changed the password on my computer and promptly forgot it :/12:52
TheMusoLaserJock: lol12:52
ademanhrm, " *** No rule to make target `configure', needed by `config.status'.  Stop.12:53
ademanpbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package"  That would be a problem with debian/rules most likely right?12:53
StevenKLaserJock: Live CD, chroot, passwd ?12:54
LaserJockwell, it's on OS X, not sure if that'd work very well12:54
StevenKOh right, you're a Mac fanboy12:55
LaserJockwell, it's what I "get" to use12:55
ademananyone on my pbuilder error?12:56
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LaserJockademan: look at the configure.status: rule and see if it calls configure:12:58
ademanLaserJock: ./configure?12:59
LaserJockno01:00
LaserJockdebian/rules has to have a configure: rule01:00
LaserJockI think01:00
LaserJockanyway01:00
pochuhey, does anybody know if network-admin belongs to gnome-system-tools?01:00
LaserJocklook at debian/rules and see if config.status: is calling configure: 01:00
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ademanheh, config.status depends on configure01:01
ademanwhich doesn't exist01:01
ademanand of course, the debian dir is part of the upstream source, but i suppose i should just edit it anyways?01:02
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coNPpochu: yes it does01:03
pochucoNP: thanks!01:04
pochuit's for bug 8156401:04
UbugtuMalone bug 81564 in Ubuntu "network-admin fails to switch properly between profiles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8156401:04
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ademanLaserJock: so should i just edit the debian/rules to have a configure target?  (which does nothing, but could in the future) ?01:11
LaserJockyeah01:11
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ademanLaserJock: i avoid autotools like the plague (actualyl that's the main reason why i'm trying so hard to package all these IDEs), how do I get a ./configure script?  as of now i've got a configure.in,  i have to run like aclocal or something, then autoconf?01:22
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ademanugh, it doesn't work at all anymore01:33
ademani broke it :-)01:34
ademananyways i gtg, i'll work on it later tonight01:34
ademanactually, before i do, dpkg-buildpackage complains about  a "missing separator"01:34
ademanwhat's it talking about?  the line before says debian/rules clean    but i didn't modify the clean target at all01:35
bddebianProbably a missing/extra tab or \01:37
ademanyeah, i just figured it out01:37
ademangedit was set to use 4 spaces rather than a tab character :-)01:37
ademaner, :-/01:37
bddebianDamn, I swear half of the merges left are just plain borked01:38
ademanmerges from debian?01:38
bddebianYeah01:38
ademanheh, sorry :-(01:39
ajmitchthat's why they're still on the page01:39
ademani'm not much of a motu, this'll be my first package, last time i tried to package something i ended up failing and vil stepped in and fixed it01:39
bddebiansomerville32: You here?01:40
somerville32bddebian, Yup01:40
ademanpbuilder told me aclocal doesn't exist, wtf?01:40
ajmitchnot in build deps?01:41
ademanin debian/control?01:41
ademanthe autotools package right?01:41
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bddebiansomerville32: Did you ever try fnfx merge?01:41
ajmitchademan: an appropriate automake package01:41
somerville32I'm doing it as we speak01:41
ajmitcheg automake1.9 or 1.1001:42
ademanajmitch: aclocal is a part of that?01:42
ajmitchhm, we don't have 1.1001:42
ajmitchwell yes01:42
bddebianAnd doko and slomo are plastered all over merges.u.c :)01:42
somerville32bddebian, Are you expecting me to have difficulties or just interested in me doing it? :)01:43
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bddebiansomerville32: Both ;-P01:43
ademanajmitch: under Build-Depends: right?01:43
somerville32bddebian, What difficulties do you expect?01:43
ajmitchyes01:44
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ademanthanks, i gtg now, i'll be back later tonight to pester you guys01:44
bddebiansomerville32: If you are using the scripts it might not be too bad.  I was doing it by hand :-(01:44
bddebianHeya LaserJock01:44
LaserJockbrb01:47
somerville32bddebian, It says in the changelog that it "resynced" with debian, so this would mean changes before hand no longer apply, right?01:47
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bddebiansomerville32: Probably not.  Some of us say re-synced even if/when we mean re-merged01:54
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ajmitchLaserJock!!01:55
LaserJockwell, that was annoying01:55
ajmitchserver gone up in smoke again? :)01:56
LaserJockno, reset my password and immediatly forgot it01:56
LaserJockit's one of those days01:56
LaserJockanyway, one OS X install disc and Keychain recovery and I'm back in business ;-)01:57
somerville32bddebian, Guh. Maybe I don't want to do this merge ;] 01:57
bddebiansomerville32: How come? :-)02:01
somerville32Welp, here goes nothing02:04
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somerville32bddebian, Ok02:07
somerville32I think I've merged it, lol02:07
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bddebiansomerville32: Does it build? :)02:11
somerville32Yup02:11
somerville32There are some deltas that I'm not sure are right02:13
bddebianI actually asked for a sync but Mithrandr questioned me02:13
bddebianI think most of the crap is old and unnecessary but hey, what do I know? :)02:14
somerville32There are some Ubuntu specific changes02:16
somerville32But I dunno if it is applicable any longer02:16
bddebianExactly02:17
bddebianSome (many?) of them go back to Hoary02:17
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somerville32Can I DCC send you the debdiff for review?02:18
bddebianI don't think I can receive dcc02:19
somerville32Look at the debdiff02:20
somerville32There are acpi-related mods by Ubuntu02:20
somerville32But they aren't really mentioned in the changelog02:20
bddebianI know02:20
somerville32I can just delete the autogenerated Makefile.in and stuff from the diff, right?02:22
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somerville32bddebian, ^^02:23
bddebiansomerville32: Should be fine, yes02:23
somerville32is configure autogenerated?02:25
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bddebianCan be02:26
somerville32It looks like Canonical has invested money in this package, ;] 02:28
bddebiansomerville32: How so?02:29
LaserJockwhat package are you working on?02:30
somerville32fnfx02:31
somerville32bddebian, It appears they rewrote the entire acpi stuff for it02:31
somerville32The author has a canonical e-mail02:31
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bddebiansomerville32: Ahh02:39
somerville32Ok, I think I have a sane patch that I'm going to try02:43
crimsunkeescook: do we need a security update for breezy's and dapper's acroread, too?02:51
keescookcrimsun: yeah, if you're interested.  :)02:52
crimsunok, working on it now.02:52
keescookawesome.  :)02:52
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bddebiancrimsun: Then you want to look at libticables2 for me? :)03:01
=== bddebian takes that as a no
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somerville32bddebian, If this compiles, I'm going to file the merge.03:04
somerville32It fails, lol03:05
somerville32Must have removed something needed03:05
somerville32How can I use filterdiff to remove files?03:06
crimsunthe man page is pretty nice.03:06
crimsunessentially: use -x with '*foo' to exclude; use -i with '*foo' to include03:07
azeemW1803:07
azeemhrm03:07
somerville32thanks03:07
crimsunbddebian: security errata first.03:07
bddebianazeem: :-)03:08
bddebiancrimsun: I'm just busting your chops03:08
crimsunbddebian: sorry, but you've got all the chops :-)03:11
zakamemorning all03:11
crimsun'morning03:11
bddebianHeya zakame03:11
zakameyo bddebian crimsun03:11
bddebianwtf is linux-tree-2.6.18?03:12
crimsunshould be a meta for source and patches.03:12
somerville32bddebian, you there?03:12
somerville32If I wanted to test my patch, I would create the debdiff as usual (latest debian and merged ubuntu) and then extra latest debian and apply patch to it?03:13
somerville32s/extra/extract03:13
zakamesomerville32: sure you could03:13
somerville32And then rename directory?03:13
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crimsunkeescook: http://adhd.irule.net/~crimsun/breezy-security/ , http://adhd.irule.net/~crimsun/dapper-security/03:29
keescookcrimsun: cool, can you put a note on the bug for it?  I'm about to head to dinner and I don't want to lose it.  :)03:30
crimsunkeescook: will do.03:31
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bddebianAny idea what would cause this:?  /bin/sh: Can't open libtool03:32
bddebiansomerville32: Yeah sorry was putting the kids to bed03:32
somerville32No idea but I'm getting:03:33
somerville32fnfxd_newacpi.c: In function 'do_fnkey':03:33
somerville32fnfxd_newacpi.c:90: error: 's_acpi_cfg' has no member named 'fnkey_descr'03:33
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crimsunbddebian: missing libtool?03:34
somerville32Maybe all those files I removed aren't so autogenerated as I thought03:34
bddebiansomerville32: Have you messed with the s_acpi_cfg struct at all?03:34
somerville32No03:34
bddebiancrimsun: It's a build-dep03:34
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crimsunbddebian: what immediately precedes it?03:35
zakameany pointers on what's the right upgrade path from edgy to feisty? :D03:35
bddebianapt-get dist-upgrade? :-)03:35
Hobbseezakame: try a dist-upgrdae.03:36
bddebiancrimsun: Dunno but /bin/sh libtool does the same on my machine but /bin/bash libtool works03:36
crimsunbddebian: interesting bashism?03:36
bddebianYeah but why/what? :-)03:36
zakamebddebian, Hobbsee: I'm just checking, don't wanna experience another dapper/edgy blowout ;)03:41
bddebianI went dapper->edgy->feisty the other day on a laptop and didn't have a problem.  Of course it was a minimal install03:41
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bddebiancrimsun: Any idea how I fix it?  Just add bin/bash?03:45
crimsunthat would hack around whatever's breaking it03:46
bddebianHere's the call in debian/rules:03:47
bddebian        dh_testdir03:47
bddebian        sh compile-gtk2im.sh03:47
bddebianthen compile-gtk2im.sh does /bin/sh libtool ...03:47
crimsuntry /bin/bash compile-gtk2im.sh03:48
crimsunbut god is that ugly03:48
bddebianYeah it is03:48
Hobbseezakame: kubuntu worked OK last time i checked.03:55
zakameHobbsee: cool, thanks03:57
somerville32me try dvorak03:57
somerville32bddebian, The merged package doesn't build at all04:01
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bddebiancrimsun: Didn't work, I'd have to change all the sh libtool commands in compile-gtk2im.sh also :-(04:09
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bddebiansomerville32: Does the vanilla Debian package build?04:09
crimsunbddebian: that's AWESOME.04:10
crimsunnearly as awesome as say, high definition audio not working because it's HIGH DEFINITION04:10
bddebianheh04:10
somerville32bddebian, attempting now04:16
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somerville32bddebian, yes, it does.04:19
bddebianHmm04:19
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somerville32Who is William Grant?04:26
ajmitcha motu04:27
Hobbseesomerville32: fujitsu04:27
somerville32What are "Updated Merges"?04:28
bddebianI believe after a merge has already been done and another Debian version gets uploaded but I'm not sure04:28
Hobbseebddebian: you're right04:29
bddebianHobbsee: Ah cool.  That happens so rarely :-)04:32
somerville32:)04:32
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somerville32Any news on imbrandon's build boxes?04:47
ajmitchnope04:47
ajmitchback later04:48
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somerville32https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-genmon-plugin/+bug/8158205:08
UbugtuMalone bug 81582 in xfce4-genmon-plugin "xfce4-genmon-plugin: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  05:08
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jdongcan someone sponsor bug 7935605:12
UbugtuMalone bug 79356 in gpac "request version bump to 0.4.2~rc2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7935605:12
jdongand if any MOTU-media's around, I merged xvidcore 1.1.2 @ bug 81405, awaiting feedback....05:13
UbugtuMalone bug 81405 in xvidcore "Sync xvidcore 1.1.2 from debian-multimedia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8140505:13
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superm1hey crimsun, i've updated the mythtv/mythplugins packaging to the new upstream version a few days ago.  any chance in a lookover/upload?05:40
somerville32How do you pronounce your nick, superm1?05:41
superm1"super M 1" is how i go about it05:41
superm1it dates way back to when i was little05:41
superm1and my mom had gotten AOL for our house05:41
superm1and they had limitations on your screen name length05:42
somerville32Ah05:42
superm1and i wanted "super mario"05:42
superm1but couldnt have it, so i went for superm, but that was taken05:42
superm1so i ended up with superm105:42
somerville32Cute : )05:42
superm1honestly, i dont know why it's stuck with me - now that i've grown up more, i can see how its very easy to read that as something else05:43
somerville32When I was in grade 2 I went to this computer camp in the summer and we created hotmail accounts05:43
somerville32I wanted my last name, somerville05:43
somerville32But it wasn't available05:43
crimsunsuperm1: tomorrow during my office hours.05:43
superm1but you liked intel's 32 bit architecture a lot at this age ?? :)05:43
superm1crimsun, okay cool05:44
superm1crimsun, so i can be around when your looking if you have questions or concerns, what times are your office hours?05:44
somerville32aha, ;]  It offered different alternatives such as somerville32 and I couldn't pick so my instructor picked somerville32 for me05:44
somerville32superm1, I've used somerville32 as my handle ever since05:44
superm1funny how these things stick with you05:45
crimsunsuperm1: anytime after 1900 UTC.05:45
superm1k, i'll try to be on IRC after that then05:45
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Hobbsee!planet05:50
ubotuPlanet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com05:50
Hobbseethat *doesnt* help05:51
somerville32Isn't there an e-mail address you can send a picture off to an it'll do it for you?05:52
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Hobbseesomerville32: imbrandon did one of me once.  it was crap05:54
somerville32lol05:54
somerville32Are you looking for the drop shadow?05:54
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ScottKGood evening every one.05:55
Hobbseesomerville32: no, i look crap with it05:55
Hobbseehttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6017/snapshot2bt1.png05:55
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ScottKI'd appreciate it if someone from u-u-s would take a look at my patch for bug #79683 - the version described as 'Patch w/cleaner changelog' it's a much simpler patch than the number of tries I've had at it might indicate...05:59
UbugtuMalone bug 79683 in libspf2 "spfquery: conflict with libmail-spf-query-perl Debian bug#306875" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968305:59
=== ScottK will go look and see if I can find a merge simple enough that I can pull it off in the meantime...
somerville32Hobbsee, Why not just take the image and round it up?06:03
Hobbseesomerville32: i could, yeah06:03
somerville32But?06:03
Hobbsee*shrugs* 06:03
Hobbseei tend to look very odd with no hair, no surroundings, etc06:03
LaserJockHobbsee: you should just use that picture of you with your car ;-)06:04
HobbseeLaserJock: hehe, could do.  i thought that one was pretty, too06:05
LaserJockinteresting tar message: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:0006:07
=== Hobbsee commits
ScottKHobbsee: You were the last one to upload syslog-summary.  Do you mind if I make a try at that merge?  It looks easy enough even form me.06:08
HobbseeScottK: yes.  dodgy ubuntu version.06:08
Hobbseeiirc, it's a sync, the next time06:08
ScottKThaks.06:08
ScottKTHanks06:08
Hobbseeit's actually been merged already06:09
ScottKOh.06:09
Hobbseebut you dont really see it, due to difference in version06:09
ScottKThen I won't do it over...06:09
Hobbsee(native package with a debian NMU always screws up)06:09
Hobbsee:)06:09
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ScottKDoes the list at http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html get automatically updated?  Is there something that should be done to get syslog-summary off the list that I can do (e.g. file a bug...)?06:11
=== ScottK will go look for another one...
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HobbseeScottK: nope.  the debian version is higher than ubuntu's06:12
crimsunScottK: 79683 uploaded.06:12
Hobbseei'm not sure it still does get updated, actually06:12
ScottKcrimsun: Thanks.06:12
somerville32Hobbsee, I'm pretty sure it does.06:12
somerville32I did some last night and they aren't there anymore06:13
jdongcrimsun: care to reexamin the xvidcore merge?06:13
jdong(bug 81405)06:13
UbugtuMalone bug 81405 in xvidcore "Sync xvidcore 1.1.2 from debian-multimedia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8140506:13
Hobbseesomerville32: cool06:13
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=== ScottK is trying to understand.... bug #55298 was rejected because I merge is needed....
UbugtuMalone bug 55298 in syslog-summary "Please sync syslog-summary 1.12-0.1 from debian sid" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5529806:15
Hobbseeyes06:15
HobbseeScottK: met dpkg --checkversions or whatever it is?06:16
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Hobbseedpkg --compare-versions06:16
ScottKSo maybe I misunderstood... Is a merge not needed or was it already done (don't see a bug for a merge)?06:17
=== Hobbsee is a MOTU.
=== Hobbsee doesnt need to file bugs to merge things
jdongHobbsee: well aren't you special :)06:19
jdong_you_ want to look over my xvidcore merge, and/or sponsor a ffmpeg or gpac upload?06:19
somerville32jdong, Are you going to apply for -dev?06:20
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jdongsomerville32: maybe... I think I probably still need more experience before I stand a chance though06:20
bddebianScottK: Did someone already upload your patch?06:21
ScottKbddebian: Yes.06:22
ScottKThanks.06:22
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ScottKHobbsee: Ah I understand now.  Thanks.06:22
bddebianScottK: Who?06:22
somerville32jdong, whats your launchpad page?06:22
crimsunbddebian: .changes is attached to the bug report for sponsored uploads.06:22
crimsunbddebian: and that would be me.06:22
jdongsomerville32: ~jdong06:22
bddebianDamn man06:22
ScottKcrimsun types faster than I do...06:22
crimsunI'm just going to pretend this 56kbps loves downloading the xvidcore tar.gz from ftp.sunet.se.06:24
jdonglol06:25
jdongpoor crimsun  :)06:25
ScottKNext merging question then...  Other than asking here, how could I tell that package didn't need a merge done?06:25
crimsunjdong: please follow merge policy (list existing Ubuntu delta)06:25
=== jdong is ashamed.... there's a merge policy?
somerville32Will someone look at my merge?06:26
somerville32https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-genmon-plugin/+bug/8158206:26
UbugtuMalone bug 81582 in xfce4-genmon-plugin "xfce4-genmon-plugin: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  06:26
HobbseeScottK: you eventually pick it up06:26
ScottKOK.06:26
ScottKWhile I go wonder off and try and merge something again, if a MOTU would look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4179, I'd appreciate it.  It's looking for a second sponsore...06:28
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ScottKsponsore/sponsor...06:28
crimsunjdong: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000182.html06:29
jdongcrimsun: ok, now I see the policy page. I apologize :(06:29
somerville32jdong: What does the backporters team do?06:29
jdongsomerville32: tests and approves backports requests06:29
somerville32Cool06:30
jdongcrimsun: btw is the recent flashplugin upload worthy to backport or no?06:31
crimsunyes.06:32
crimsun81405 fixed & uploaded.06:32
jdongok06:33
jdongbug 8140506:33
UbugtuMalone bug 81405 in xvidcore "Merge xvidcore 1.1.2 from debian-multimedia" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8140506:33
jdongcool thanks :)06:33
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jdongcrimsun: so would you like to deal with my problems more? :)06:34
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somerville32PFft.06:34
somerville32Bug #8158206:34
UbugtuMalone bug 81582 in xfce4-genmon-plugin "xfce4-genmon-plugin: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8158206:34
crimsunno, I'd like to sleep so I can get up for my 4 AM run. Thanks, though!06:34
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LaserJockcrimsun: geeze, you run?06:35
LaserJock:-)06:35
ScottKHobbsee: How about me taking a shot at merging kdissert?  It looks like a one bugfix update from Debian and your packaging differences were minor....06:35
jdongcrimsun: sleep tight :) and thanks for everything06:35
bddebianLaserJock: Machines have to do something or they'd rust ;-P06:35
LaserJockI guess you have to do *something* to keep your sanity06:35
bddebiansomerville32: I'm looking at it now06:35
somerville32bddebian, Thanks :)06:35
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HobbseeScottK: go for it06:37
ScottKOK.  Will give it a shot...06:37
jdongwhatever happened to bisexual apt?06:37
jdongoh crap06:37
jdongI meant biarch06:37
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ScottKdebian bug #39294006:38
UbugtuDebian bug 392940 in kdissert "kdissert: FTBFS: could not make  /home/buildd/.waf-0.9.0" [Serious,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/39294006:38
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Hobbsee:)06:38
jdongbots rule :)06:38
jdongkinda06:38
jdongat least for bug reports06:39
jdongthey kinda are annoying when you say Mandriva 2007 and get a bug report :D06:39
UbugtuMandriva bug 2007 in Installation "Switching to alternate screens during install crashes X" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=200706:39
bddebianWell who the hell would ever say Mandriva? :)06:39
somerville32Just say Mandravia ;] 06:39
jdongSeveas: that should really be fixed btw.... mandate mandriva _bug_ and not just mandriva. their version numbers trigger bug reports06:39
somerville32Mandravia 200706:39
jdonglol06:39
jdongmandrake 200706:39
jdongthat works too06:39
somerville32Indeed06:40
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jdongbackports request report, that is :)06:41
bddebianAnd here I was hoping it was a package removal request ;-P06:42
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jdonglol06:44
somerville32bddebian2, Everything ok?06:46
bddebian2Yep, uploaded06:47
somerville32Can I do merges in main?06:49
bddebian2You can but we can't upload them for you06:49
zakamelfittl: hi, are you packaging secondlife-client for debian?  How's it going?06:52
jdongbddebian2: would you be willing to upload bug 79356? :)06:53
UbugtuMalone bug 79356 in gpac "request version bump to 0.4.2~rc2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7935606:53
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LaserJockdarn, this fitting program is taking forever :(06:56
zakamewhat fitting?06:57
LaserJockI'm fitting data to a kinetic model06:58
somerville32If there is a package in Ubuntu that isn't in debian but now there is, do we just merge it like normal?06:58
LaserJockI have to present a poster tomorrow morning06:59
LaserJockso I need the data like yesterday06:59
LaserJocksomerville32: you have to watch the .orig.tar.gz06:59
zakamesomerville32: of course, be extra careful06:59
LaserJockyou can't merge them if they aren't same md5sum06:59
somerville32ok07:00
somerville32Also, what do the different colours mean? When is the merge dead line again?07:02
LaserJockI'm not really sure what the colors are07:04
LaserJockdeadline is basicaly UVF07:04
LaserJockFeb. 8th I think07:04
somerville32Can promotions to main occur after UVF?07:06
LaserJockI think that might be FF07:09
LaserJockI wish it was later :/07:11
LaserJockI've got quite a few to do07:11
bddebian2LaserJock: Quite a few what?07:13
ScottKHobbsee: Kdissert is done (I think).  Bug #81590.07:13
UbugtuMalone bug 81590 in kdissert "Outstanding merge of debian 1.0.6.c-1.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8159007:13
LaserJockugg, people need to put the package name in the bug title07:14
ScottKGood point.07:14
ScottKI'll fix it...07:14
somerville32I thought it was suppose to be: <packagename>: merge new debian version07:15
ScottKNow you say something .... Bug #8159007:15
UbugtuMalone bug 81590 in kdissert "Kdissert - outstanding merge of debian 1.0.6.c-1.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8159007:15
somerville32In doodled, I have: doodle (= ${binary:Version}) in the debian version07:16
somerville32and doodle (= ${Source-Version}) in the Ubuntu version07:16
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somerville32umm... nvm :)07:18
bddebian2jdong: Uploaded07:19
bddebian2Bedtime for me too.  GNight gang07:20
LaserJockcya ScottK 07:21
LaserJockand as always I miss bddebian07:21
ScottKcya07:21
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Hobbseedone07:25
somerville32:] 07:29
somerville32Hobbsee, Will you be able to upload my doodle merge here in a second? :)07:29
somerville32Yeah, upgrade complete. Now my computer isn't crawling :)07:37
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ademanhey how do i get a gpg key?07:57
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LaserJockademan: you make one08:00
LaserJock!gpg08:01
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto08:01
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mneptokmoof.08:05
ademanwoof08:05
mneptokanyone want to admit to maintaining QuodLibet? :)08:05
ademanlol, wtf IS Quodlibet?08:06
mneptokaptitude show quodlibet08:07
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ademanlol sorry, but how do you paste in vim?08:22
somerville32Can someone sponsor #81593 for me please?08:22
somerville32* Can someone sponsor Bug 81593 for me please?08:22
UbugtuMalone bug 81593 in doodle "doodle: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8159308:22
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ademanhow do you start up the gpg-agent again?  it told me gpg-agent wasn't a valid command08:26
LaserJockI'm not sure I don't use one08:28
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ademanLaser_away: how do you not? don't you need gpg to sign packages?08:51
ademanmeh brb i'm just gonna restart my comp08:55
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dholbachgood morning09:08
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lifelessajmitch: ping09:39
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\shmoins10:38
Q-FUNKgaelic?10:45
\shno short form of "moin moin", which means "good morning" or "good day" in a north german slang10:52
Q-FUNK(11:37:39) mnepton poistui huoneesta (quit: "Hwt! We Gardena in geardagum, eodcyninga, rym gefrunon, hu a elingas ellen fremedon!").10:53
Q-FUNKnot enough words ending in -ir to be icelandic, but they use  and  at a few places.  I'd have to assume some form of gaelic.10:54
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cbx33I've forgotten how do I go about making a feisty pbuilder?10:56
cbx33I seem to remember editing a pbuilder distro script10:56
cbx33but where are they located?10:56
Q-FUNKconfugure .pbuilderrc for feisty10:56
Q-FUNKor /etc/pbuilderrc10:56
Q-FUNKthen:  sudo pbuilder create10:57
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ademanhrm, when i asked the Code::Blocks maintainer about my problems, he said he just built it with this command: "fakeroot debian/rules build"  is that really acceptable?  Shouldnt it use pbuilder?11:48
StevenKademan: The buildds won't.11:49
coNPademan: does pbuilder not build with "debian/rules binary"?11:49
ademancoNP: i don't believe there's a binary target in rules, lemme check though11:50
coNPademan: there is :) I use it regularly :)11:50
StevenKWell, there really should be.11:50
ademanyeah, there is11:50
ademanbut i dunno, all i know is it fails with pbuilder11:51
ademani just do11:51
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StevenKHow does it fail?11:51
ademanpbuilder build ../*.dsc11:51
ademanit was a problem in the rules file11:51
StevenKCan you paste it into a pastebin?11:51
ademanconfigure.in:3: file `revision.m4' does not exist11:51
ademanmake: *** [configure]  Error 111:51
StevenKThat's a missing Build-Depends11:52
ademani've got automake and autoconf in the build depends11:53
ademan(i had to add them)11:53
StevenKDid he have something silly like make in the Build-Depends?11:53
ademani dunno honestly, this is my first package, he probably knows a hell of a lot more than me11:53
ademanhere's the build-depends line though11:53
ademanBuild-Depends: debhelper, autotools-dev, automake1.9, autoconf, libc6-dev, libstdc++6-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev, wx-common, libgtk2.0-dev, zip, pkg-config11:53
StevenKlibc6-dev can go11:54
StevenKEverything else looks fine11:54
StevenKActually, so can libstdc++6-dev11:54
ademanwhy do you say libc6-dev can go? something else in there depend on it?11:54
ademang++ depend on those?11:55
ademanhuh, here's another thing, when i ran pbuilder, it fetched g++ 3.4, why didn't it fetch the newest version?11:56
StevenKOkay, so it is assumed when you build a package that 'build-essential' is installed.11:56
StevenKbuild-essential depends on libc6-dev, gcc and a few other things.11:56
StevenKSo libc6-dev and libstdc++6-dev can both go.11:56
ademanah, alright, thanks, is it proper to add build-essential to Build-Depends?11:57
StevenKNo.11:58
ademanalright11:58
StevenKIt's implied11:58
ademanbtw, i'm gonna paste debian/rules cause it's kinda funky11:58
StevenKInto a pastebin, if you please.11:59
ademanhttp://rafb.net/p/TTXeZT69.html but of course :-)11:59
ademannote the configure target I added because pbuilder was complaining about configure not existing11:59
ademani may have been wrong to do that i dunno11:59
ademanit wasn't building before either though11:59
StevenKIt's because config.status depends on a configure target12:02
ademanright, which is why i added a configure target12:02
StevenKApart from that, the only bad thing I can see is copying /usr/share/misc/config.{sub,guess} in the clean target.12:02
ademanif there's a configure file in the current directory does that satisfy the dependancy?  I didn't think it did but the upstream maintainer seemed to say it did12:02
StevenKIt ought to, yes12:03
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ademanoh, hrm, should i remove the configure target then?12:03
StevenKExcept that he's not providing anyway to generate said file.12:03
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ademanwell ./configure exists, you're saying that having the configure target (which calls autoconf) is good because it generates a new ./configure?12:05
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StevenKNo, I'm saying that if configure doesn't exist in a pristine upstream tarball, debian/rules has no commands to generate it.12:06
ademanah, well actually i got this from svn, and it already had the debian dir, along with spec files (for rpm?) and a ./configure script12:07
ademanwait no i totally lied12:08
ademanthere's no configure script even now12:08
ademanit must be dying DURING the configure target12:08
ademanyep, ok i think i've got this, is it bad for me to move lines 31-35 into the configure target?12:11
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ademan"configure.in:25: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL" so what does that mean i have to do?  Is that where i need to copy a certain file into the current dir?  where should that happen?12:18
StevenKademan: You also need to Build-Depend on libtool12:19
ademanah, that's not a build-essential?12:19
StevenKNope12:20
StevenKNone of the auto* tools are.12:20
ademanthere was another m4 error "configure.in:24: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DISABLE_STATIC12:20
ademan"12:20
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ademancrap sorry about the newline12:20
StevenKNot sure about that one.12:20
ademani think i'll work on this more tomorow, it's about 3:00 am and i've got school tomorow... lol12:21
imbrandonmoins all12:21
ademan"configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../..""     WHEE!!! at least it's a different error this time12:23
StevenKademan: install-sh is shipped by automake12:24
ademancopy from /usr/share/automake then?12:25
StevenKautomake1.9: usr/share/automake-1.9/install-sh12:25
ademan:-)12:25
StevenKYou could ln -s /usr/share/automake-1.9/install-sh . in the configure target, and rm install-sh in the clean target12:25
StevenK$(RM) install-sh, rather12:25
ademanany way to do the copy in a automake version agnostic way?12:26
StevenK /usr/share/automake-*/install-sh ?12:26
StevenK:-)12:26
ademani'm hardly a bash expert, woudl that work?12:26
ademanby the way, i'm seeing a trend here, would it be $(LN) ?12:26
StevenKNope12:27
StevenK$(RM) is defined by make12:27
StevenKAlso, keep in mind you're hardly being automake version agnostic with your Build-Depends.12:27
ademantrue, but if i were to change it in Build-Depends, and forget about it in rules, you know12:27
StevenKThen your build fails, you slap your forehead and fix it, no?12:28
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ademanlol, i suppose i would12:29
ademangeeze, this is so fun, i CAN'T WAIT till i have to chop this thing up into multiple packages lol12:29
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ademaneither way, yet another question (i know, i'm sorry, i'm just, well a n00b) do i have to dpkg-buildpackage everytime i change debian/rules?12:30
StevenKIf you want to test your changes...12:30
ademanok that's what i was wondering, i don't know where pbuilder reads the debian/rules from, if it's from like the orig.tar.gz or something, or the debian dir, the dsc, i dunno12:32
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StevenKpbuilder doesn't12:34
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StevenKpbuilder unpacks a tarball, chroots into it and runs dpkg-buildpackage12:35
ademanoh, heh12:35
ademananyways, now it says it can't find Makefile.in,      Makefile.am -> (some command) -> Makefile.in ?  (for some nuts reason i thought it was the other way)12:36
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ademani can tell my absolute loathing for autotools is comming back to bite me in the ass here12:37
ademanoh duh, i'm retarded12:37
ademanMakefile.am -> automake -> Makefile.in12:38
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ademanshould automake go in the configure: target?12:41
StevenKProbably.12:42
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ademani feel i'm really close to getting it12:42
ademani think i'm going to go to sleep for now though, i can at least get 4 hours of sleep in12:42
ademani really appreciate your help and patience12:43
ademanthanks12:43
ademangnight12:43
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did448Hi, question: if a bug is in a debian/patches/xxx, what is better: modify the patch or create a new one?12:49
ademani'd think you should create a new patch, i remember hearing something about being able to apply only the patches needed etc12:52
ademanGod, i've said gnight like twice and i'm still not gone12:52
ademanSO CLOSE! i'm getting an error about some configure.h.in in the source not existing12:55
StevenKModify the patch12:55
ademanhere's the culprit i would think: AC_CONFIG_HEADER([src/sdk/config.h] )     and src/sdk/config.h.in doesn't exist, shoudl i remove the line? (i'll know i need it if g++ bitches about needing config.h)12:56
StevenKWhy should src/sdk/config.h.in exist?12:58
StevenKconfig.h should just be a normal header file12:58
ademanwell doesn't autoconf generate config.h FROM config.h.in?12:58
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StevenKI have no idea, to be honest. I've managed to avoid auto* :-)12:59
ademanhehe, avoiding autotools is the exact reason why i'm packaging a c++ IDE :-)12:59
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ademanalthough it doesn't seem to bad now, but man, the redundancy in the code, so much of it just seems superfluous, or like it could just be housed in a config file, and just read by a single build program01:00
ademananyways, gnight, i'm going to sleep for real now...maybe....01:01
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ScottKGood morning everyone.01:39
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palskicould someone sponsor the fix (for feisty) attached to Bug #5578202:04
UbugtuMalone bug 55782 in kxdocker "doesnt open in edgy" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5578202:04
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siretartmmmmh. pushing a branch to launchpad takes aaages :/02:07
siretarthi folks, btw02:07
ScottKHi.02:08
jribKamping_Kaiser: hi02:09
jribI mean, "hi"02:09
jribI'd like to see http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-dialog included in feisty.  I want to make sure that the proper process is to file a sync request as described in the wiki.  Is there anything I can do to help out with the process once that bug is filed?02:13
palskihmm, that package is not in ubuntu at all?02:21
ScottKjrib: I'm new here, but one thing is that python-dialog is the binary package.  You'd want to request the source pacakge pythondialog I believe.02:22
ScottKpacakge/package02:22
jribScottK: I see, so I should grab the info from http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pythondialog.html then.  Thanks02:23
ScottKThat's my understanding, but as I said, I'n not an expert by any means.02:24
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sunshinehi02:31
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siretartcrimsun: FYI: I imported the xine-lib packaging branch to ~ubuntu-core-dev team branch. I also imported your latest upload there. Feel free to point anyone interested to branch from there for submitting patches03:27
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AnAnthow can I specify a certain file as a changelog file ?04:07
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AnAntusing dh_installchangelogs I mean04:07
JKnife"http://rafb.net/p/LenFVs68.html =\ ld core dumps when I try to build AWOS" 04:08
JKnifehere gnomefreak? =P04:08
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gnomefreaksee my comments in +1 but again i dont know what it is and im no expert :)04:09
JKnife:) i was just reading em04:09
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imbrandonsiretart, the newest bzr is alot faster about it ( but its still slow )04:09
JKnife"*** glibc detected *** ld: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0817d724 ***04:09
JKnifethat is what i am guessing04:09
gnomefreakme too04:09
gnomefreakJKnife: maybe the new libc6 is causing it?04:10
JKnifewhich is why i asked in +1 :)04:10
gnomefreakwhat your building expects lower version maybe?04:10
gnomefreakbut im not good at pointer04:10
gnomefreaks04:10
JKnifewell AWOSDev is building it on Dapper.. but ld shouldn't core dump04:10
JKnifeit should print a nice error instead of letting everything out^__^04:11
siretartimbrandon: I'm using bzr 0.1304:11
jdongto whomever kindly sponsored my gpac package but is not showing up in feisty-changes for me.... thank you greatly :)04:11
gnomefreakthats why i asked you in here. this is where are the SMART people play04:11
siretartimbrandon: it would really help a lot if launchpad would offer repositories, though04:11
gnomefreakand me04:11
JKnifehaha04:11
jdongsiretart / imbrandon : bzr network performance will be slow without smart servers04:11
gnomefreakbut someone in here might know what is going on with it04:12
jdongthere is an additional latency of `find .bzr | wc -l`*ping_latency04:12
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jdongsupposedly launchpad will get smartserver support "sooner than I'd think" is what I'm told :D04:12
JKnifewell anyways.. ask the smart people.. i need to get a shower and head to class04:13
gnomefreaklol04:13
gnomefreakim gonna have to go on my assumtion to begin with04:14
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gnomefreakcan anyone read backtraces good? im not real good at them but i would like confirmation that libc6 is causing the coredump if you have a few minutes04:15
JKnifei look at it this way.. if it was libc6 then i would 99% of the time gotten a gcc error and might have known where it was, this is a core dump in ld.. so i have no clue.. 04:15
gesergnomefreak: I might look at it. got an url?04:21
imbrandonsiretart, yea i hear ya, i talked with elmo a bit about that at UDS , it seems to be comming but not here fast enough04:21
gnomefreakgeser: yeah04:21
gnomefreakgeser: http://rafb.net/p/LenFVs68.html04:21
gnomefreakimbrandon: you still working on kooldock?04:21
imbrandongnomefreak, not atm04:22
imbrandonbut i can if you need a hand with something04:22
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gnomefreakimbrandon: the kmenu when you add it to the dock in the docks prefferences it doesnt work it adds it but never opens04:23
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gesergnomefreak: can you reproduce the core dump when you run ld with the same parameters (in the same directory)?04:25
gnomefreakgeser: its JKnife's baby04:26
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geserJKnife: can you reproduce the core dump when you run ld with the same parameters (in the same directory)?04:26
ScottKIf any MOTU is available to do a revu, I'd appreciate you taking a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4179 - It's looking for a 2nd advocate...04:26
JKnifegeser: "ld: cannot find bootup.o"04:28
JKnifeohh n/m04:28
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JKnifeyes it reproduceable04:29
JKnife"svn co https://awos.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/awos/trunk awos" <- its svn repo if you wanna look at it04:32
geserhmm, there is no dbgsym package  for binutils which makes it harder to get a good backtrace04:33
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JKnifewant me to try libc6-dbg?04:36
bddebianHeya gang04:36
geserJKnife: the debug symbols for libc6 won't show you the details for ld04:38
JKnifeohh well..04:38
geserit would help if one know which function from ld are called04:39
JKnife=\ 04:40
JKnifewell this has been fun but time for class04:40
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h4writerhoi, I've got a question about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/8127304:43
UbugtuMalone bug 81273 in Ubuntu "list isn't rendered good" [Undecided,Needs info]  04:43
h4writerI need to give a screen shot04:43
Tonio_may I ping a motu concerning http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3689 please ?04:44
h4writerbut when I push PrtScr, the list is back rendered good !04:44
Tonio_:)04:44
h4writerso I can't show the problem :-(04:44
bddebianTonio_: Aren't you an MOTU? :-)04:45
jribHi, I'm looking for an ubuntu developer to approve https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/81637 .  Can anyone help? :)04:45
UbugtuMalone bug 81637 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request]  pythondialog (2.7-1) from debian unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Needs info]  04:45
Tonio_bddebian: yes but I won't revu myself :)04:45
Tonio_bddebian: you did the previous comment, I just fixed all of the required things04:45
bddebianTonio_: I'll check it out in a sec.04:45
jdongh4writer: find a digital camera?04:46
Tonio_bddebian:  thanks04:46
jdong(wow, that's probably the worst advice I've given all week)04:46
crimsunsiretart: ok, thanks. I was going to submit a patch to Debian BTS against xine-lib in experimental. Is that still necessary?04:46
h4writerjdong: I have no camera at hand, but do you know a screen capteringer (to make a video of the problem?04:48
jdongh4writer: istanbul04:48
h4writerjdong: thanks will try it immidiatly04:49
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bddebianTonio_: My edgy machine just puked building jabbin so just give me a sec04:59
jribbddebian: thanks for the approval of pythondialog.  In the future, is that the correct way to go about requesting a package from debian or should I have emailed the MOTU list looking for a sponsor first?05:00
Tonio_bddebian: sure :)05:00
bddebianjrib: For a package straight from Debian, that is fine.  Though if you are not an MOTU yet, you should not subscribe Ubuntu Archive but Ubuntu Universe Sponsors05:01
jribbddebian: ah ok05:01
jribrrittenhouse: ok, that one does not have dapper multiverse, it only has dapper-backports multiverse05:02
jriberm ignore that, sorry05:02
siretartcrimsun: not really. it seems I'm the only one who actually cares about xine-lib in debian05:02
bddebianHeh, hi siretart05:02
siretartcrimsun: currently, xine-lib 1.1.3 is in debian/NEW. 05:02
siretartbddebian: !! :)05:02
bddebianShit I don't think my machine is going to come back?? :-(05:03
Adri2000bddebian: shouldn't bug #81673 be for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates ?05:06
UbugtuMalone bug 81673 in Ubuntu "No KPlayer package in Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8167305:06
bddebianAdri2000: Probably but what's your point? :)05:07
Adri2000because you marked it as wishlist, why not reject and forward the report to the wiki page?05:08
siretartcrimsun: thanks for the pulseaudio patch. I already pushed it to the debian branch here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~siretart/xine-lib/xine-lib.debian.1.1.3/05:08
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Adri2000s/forward the report/point the reporter/05:09
siretartcrimsun: I already have xine-lib 1.1.4 prepared. there are lots of bug fixes there, but the branch is still somewhat in flux, and our ffmpeg copy is too old05:09
siretartcrimsun: if you have the impression feisty should ship with it, just leave me a note05:09
siretartany kubuntu folks having an opinion on this?05:09
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giskardwho is working on soma?05:20
bddebianIt's on REVU05:21
jdongso what are the chances of us being able to get a newer ffmpeg?05:21
bddebiangiskard: rexbron I think05:21
jdongit's certainly not the easiest thing to update :D05:21
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rexbrongiskard: U am05:21
rexbronIam05:21
rexbrongiskard: I am05:22
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rexbrongiskard: is there a problem?05:22
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\shjdong: certainly some packages will FTBFS if there are API changes ,-)05:23
giskardrexbron, no, i will be happy  to sponsor it if you are not a motu :).05:23
rexbronyay05:23
rexbronit is still in development05:24
bddebiangiskard: REVU it man :-)05:24
jdong\sh: yeah, certainly, but in my experience ffmpeg's API changes aren't too bad to work with05:24
rexbrongiskard: but any comments would be very much apprciated05:24
jdong\sh: it's just annoying when they keep changing names here and there... :D05:24
bddebianbbiab05:25
\shjdong: ;) 05:25
jdong\sh: I've been trying to bring whatever media stuff I could up to date... but ffmpeg is a monster I'm scared to touch :)05:26
giskardrexbron, i will do it05:26
giskardrexbron, do you think to package also somaplayer?05:27
Toadstoolgood morning everybody05:27
giskardhi :)05:27
rexbrongiskard: somaplayer is already packaged and in the repos05:27
giskarduh yes, right (my package, stupid me).05:27
rexbrongiskard: check out www.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ToPackage to see all the stuff we are working on05:28
giskardi meant do you want to be the real maintainer?05:28
rexbrongiskard: of somaplayer?05:33
giskardyes05:33
rexbronI can certainly deal with new upstream releases, and since you have all ready done most of the work, I think so. But I do not want to make any commitments until after uS is released05:33
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jdongdoes anyone have any emotional attachment to gpac on ia64?05:39
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UbugtuMalone bug 79356 in gpac "request version bump to 0.4.2~rc2" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7935605:39
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jdong  libsmjs-dev: Depends: libmozjs-dev but it is not going to be installed05:40
Adri2000jdong: eheh, xulrunner05:41
jdonglovely :)05:41
Adri2000it's the same for mplayerplug-in05:41
Adri2000xulrunner FTBFSed on ia6405:41
jdongah, ok05:41
\shAdri2000: behappy...xiulrunner ftbfsed on amd64 before ;)05:42
Laser_awayademan: I don't use a gpg-agent, that doesn't mean I don't use gpg ;-)05:42
\shbecause of fcking pointer casting from int to pointer...and that failes in x86_6405:42
LaserJockand what the heck happened to our wiki?!?05:42
Adri2000ahh \sh :p yeah thanks for this fix, but do you know how to fix it on ia64?05:42
\shAdri2000: well, no...I don't own an ia64 :(05:42
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Adri2000hmm, who owns one?05:43
\shlemme check what failes05:44
\shor no...I'm trying to get wine 0.9.30 into feisty...so monday I'll check...05:44
Adri2000ok05:44
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\shwine 0.9.30 is uploaded :)05:50
\shoops..this time I'm fast then scott *gg*05:51
jdongargh \sh stop filling my todo list :D05:51
\shjdong: sorry ;)05:51
\shjdong: I'll prepare a backport on edgy05:51
jdong:)05:51
\shbut .. hmm...I need to upgrade my laptop05:52
\shok..time to go home :)05:52
\shcu later 05:52
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ademanlol LaserJockthat comment was about 8 hours late haha05:58
ademananywho, school time, i'm bringing my comp with though, i'll see what i can do there05:59
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somerville32Can someone sponsor bug 81593 for me? thanks06:05
UbugtuMalone bug 81593 in doodle "doodle: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8159306:05
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gesersomerville32: sponsored06:24
somerville32geser: Thanks a bunch! :)06:24
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ScottKgeser: Do you have time to review a new package?06:36
geserlater perhaps06:36
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ScottKOK.  It's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4179 If you can.  Thanks.06:37
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bddebianJesus Christ, an hour and a half to install Service Pack 1 for Visual Studio 2005 :'-(06:45
nixternal_hahahahahaha06:46
nixternal_why may I ask?06:46
jdongbddebian: that sounds about right06:48
jdongbddebian: I once had to run VS.NET for school on a 133MHz P106:48
nixternal_I know we use it at school, but I have informed the instructors of my classes that it goes against my philosophy to use MS products and that I will be doing the class with Linux. so far none of them have gone against me, or given me a lower grade because of it06:48
jdongbddebian: took overnight to install06:48
jdongfor me, it was a class project where the teacher implemented a good protion of the API in VS.NET managed and nonstandard C++06:48
nixternal_as soon as one of my instructors doesn't agree, then I will let them know I belong to an OpenReligion and can't use proprietary software otherwise I will goto Microsoft when I die06:49
bddebiannixternal_: Work06:50
nixternal_ahhh06:50
somerville32lol06:51
nixternal_you know, please don't say that you work for AOL. you can ask imbrandon, we had a LinuxMonkey who worked for AOL. Granted he has since left us, but still, that was like saying I drive a Ford and work for Chevy06:51
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nixternalsilly nicknames06:52
somerville32You're colour changed06:52
somerville32*Your06:52
ScottKsomerville32: It sort of works either way...06:53
somerville32You are coloured changed vs. Your colour changed? :P06:54
nixternalhaha06:54
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\shre07:14
\shumts with 1.8MBit/s ;) very nice :)07:14
Tonio_bddebian: how about jabbin? is it ready for upload ?07:18
bddebianSorry just got my machine back up.  Test building now :-(07:18
Tonio_hehe okay :)07:19
Tonio_bddebian: I'll have to in 30 minutes for the all we, take your time then :)07:20
Tonio_or upload it yourself ;)07:20
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lritterhi there07:22
lritteri'm trying to do my first package, and i'm as far as having my debs created, but there are no files in it07:22
lritterit seems to only include directories07:22
lritterlibzzub.dirs: http://rafb.net/p/2SGsD672.html07:22
lritterlibzzub.files: http://rafb.net/p/FwSxkk23.html07:23
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\shre07:34
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affluxam I allowed to quote the wikipedia in the description of a package?07:59
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somerville32afflux, Sure.08:10
affluxgood. I'm too lazy to write myself, and the original developer seems to be lazy too.08:11
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jdongis there anything inherently unwise about using ext2?08:25
jdongI know no ACL support...08:26
coNPjdong: no journaling08:26
jdongand I can deal with lengthy fscks on bad shutdowns (a rarity for me)08:26
jdongcoNP: yeah, but sometimes IMO the trade-off for journaling is too dear08:26
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coNPjdong: sure, but that is a bad point, not an inherently badness08:27
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ademanwhen i do "pbuilder build ../*.dsc" i get this error "configure.in:10: required file `src/sdk/config.h.in' not found"   in configure.in there's a line "AC_CONFIG_HEADER([src/sdk/config.h] )" , should i rcomment out that line to see if i can get things to build?08:36
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ademananyone?08:43
Adri2000for?08:44
coNPademan: which package?08:44
ademancode::blocks08:45
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Adri2000ah sorry ademan, didn't read above :08:45
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ademan:-)08:45
ademani feel like i'm soooo close to getting this to work08:46
coNPademan: sorry, is this a new package?08:47
bddebianademan: Is that file in the package itself?08:47
ademancoNP: yep, and the majority of the debian dir is from the upstream maintainer08:47
ademanAND he only builds with fakeroot, not pbuilder08:47
coNPademan: that should not mean any problems, can you build via fakeroot?08:48
ademandunno, but it kinda does, cause there are lots of dependancy problems08:49
ademan(via pbuilder)08:49
ademanthe Build-Depends was insufficient08:49
ademanbut i've fixed it to some degreee08:49
ademanbtw how in the heck do i comment stuff out in a M4 file? #?08:49
bddebianWhy would you want to do that?08:49
ademancause of my error described at 11:3608:50
ScottKIf I were to hazard a guess, you are missing a -dev library dependency somewhere.  Finding that's more likely to be fruitful than commenting out lines.08:50
ademanbut its a missing file in the src directory, rather than a dependancy problem, isn't it?08:51
Adri2000LaserJock: really, it would be great to have a link to the debian changelog in http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motutodo/universe.html, please :)08:51
bddebianademan: Aye if you find ./ -name config.h.in it isn't there?08:53
bddebianOr you could look in src/sdk directly I suppose :)08:53
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goukiHi, I'm creating a package but I'm not able to find the required library on official repositories. Can anyone help me out?08:58
bddebiangouki: What library?08:58
jdongare universe syncs automagic or need to be requested?08:58
jdong(looking at deluge-torrent atm)08:58
goukilibssh - I just want to make sure it's not there08:58
bddebianjdong: Early on they are automagic but have been manual for a while now08:58
jdongoh08:59
jdongdo I need to be all formal requesting syncs08:59
jdongor will a message here suffice? :D08:59
goukibddebian: I just found it on Feisty...08:59
bddebianjdong: All formal.  We can't do syncs, only archive admins can09:00
jdonggot it09:00
jdongbddebian: what is the format of a sync request?09:01
bddebianjdong: Just a bug on LP.  State the package name, version, which archive (i.e. unstable, etc) and component (ie main, contrib,etc)09:03
jdongbddebian: who should be subscribed? -archive?09:04
Adri2000changelog between current version in ubuntu and last version in unstable (or whatever)09:04
Adri2000jdong: u-u-s if you are not a MOTU09:04
bddebianjdong: If you aren't an MOTU, you should probably subscribe UUS first and we will subscribe UA09:04
ademan_did i miss anything?09:04
jdongbddebian: ok09:04
ademan_bbdebian: yeah there's no src/sdk/configure.in09:04
jdongalready there.... bug 7962709:05
UbugtuMalone bug 79627 in deluge-torrent "Update to 0.4.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7962709:05
jdonguus is not subscribed though09:05
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bddebianademan_: Are there any configure files in src/sdk/ ?09:05
ademan_hrm lemme check09:06
jdongbddebian:  ^^ should I subscribe uus or will you guys be able to handle it from this point?09:07
ademan_bddebian: nothing *.in, there's a couple headers with configure in the name, but they don't have any of the text replacement looking stuff that *.in files generally have09:08
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ademan_should  i just try commenting out the offending line in configure.in?09:09
ademan_(is "dnl" a comment? it seemed to be)09:10
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ademan_well it just about built09:14
ademan_it was REALLY close09:14
ademan_it seems g++ blew up, i'll make a pastebin09:14
ademan_and it wasn't blowing up for a lack of configure.h.in09:15
LaserJockanybody get Ubuntu ISO testing bug email today?09:16
ademan_http://rafb.net/p/ejN6pR53.html  anyone who takes a look at this, it would be appreciated, this was while running pbuilder, it seems to have made it to the build target09:16
ademan_might it have to do with the lack of svn? should libsvn be in Build-Depends?  (looking at line 7)09:17
Adri2000LaserJock: me09:17
coNPademan_: if svn is not found, svn should be installed, I guess09:17
coNPademan_: might be some clib bug?09:18
ademan_LaserJock: the kiso one?09:18
LaserJockI mean bug #81630 email09:19
UbugtuMalone bug 81630 in ubuntu-iso-tests "20070126: ubuntu i386 desktop" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8163009:19
hubademan_: yeah looks like it can NOT find svn09:20
hubademan_: build-depend on subversion09:20
ademan_not libsvn0-dev?09:20
ademan_i guess probably not09:20
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hubademan_: it is looking for the command line09:21
ademan_thanks09:21
ademan_alright, thanks09:21
coNPademan_: I guess the package is called subversion09:21
bddebianSorry guys, gotta run09:23
ademan_later09:23
ademan_God, i'm in my data-structures class learning about arrays....09:24
ademan_the makefiles i have to write are longer and more complicated than the programs themselves...09:24
bddebianademan_: If I'm on later and you still have problems, poke me09:24
ademan_alright i will, thanks for the help09:24
ademan_thank you all really, bein pretty patient with me asking all these questions that would be better put in #ubuntu-motu-school09:25
ademan_...which is all but dead...09:25
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ademan_dear lord it's actually building!'09:27
jdongack09:27
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ademan_lol sorry, didn't mean to startle you :-)(09:29
ademan_man i don't think i've ever compiled something that took > 5 minutes09:30
ademan_course, i might have back on windows, but in my experience the msvc compiler was way faster than mingw09:30
LaserJockademan_: what?09:31
LaserJockyou need to try Gentoo09:31
LaserJockI think pbuilder for gcl took over 1hr for me09:32
ademan_i dunno, when i was on windows the msvc compiler beat the pants off of mingw every time on compiling speed (dunno about the speed of the resulting executable)09:32
ademan_man, nothing system76 offers has a built in tv tuner09:34
ademan_hey what does debian/dirs do?09:36
LaserJockcreates directories that weren't created by the source itself09:36
LaserJockso if you need to add a file from the packaging (man page or .desktop say) you need to make sure that the directories exist09:37
ademan_so usr/bin -> debian/usr/bin ?09:37
coNPademan_: I guess debian/dirs/usr/bin09:38
LaserJockno09:38
ademan_dirs is a file though not a dir09:38
LaserJockit's debian/tmp/usr/bin/ or debian/<packagname>/usr/bin/09:38
coNPI see09:38
LaserJockthat's why it's just usr/bin09:39
ademan_ah, it's tmp then, i saw a bunch of tmp crap during the build09:39
ademan_which is still happening by the way...09:39
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LaserJockademan_: the whole .deb is built there :-)09:39
ademan_man, i swear i'm just seeing the same lines over and over again09:40
ademan_and the CFLAGS are rediculously long09:40
JKnifeback09:45
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ademan_longest.build.ever.09:46
LaserJockand wait, as it's done building there will be some silly dh_install error and you'll get to do it all over again ;-)09:47
ademan_i'm in class right now, i don't wanna scream lol09:47
ademan_so far so good though, g++ is done for now, it's doing something else now09:48
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ademan__no errors09:50
ademan__but where's my deb?09:50
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LaserJockademan: dude, you gotta calm down09:51
LaserJock:-)09:51
LaserJockademan: you built it with pbuilder, right?09:51
ademanyep09:51
LaserJockthen it's probably in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/09:51
LaserJockunless you're using my script and then it's in ~/pbuilder/09:52
ademanits there!09:52
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LaserJockgood, no sepukku09:52
LaserJock;-)09:52
ademanso, now the moment of truth, trying to install, and watching the package break something important :-)09:53
LaserJockcan't have our contributors doing that09:53
LaserJockat least not too much09:53
LaserJockademan: run dpkg -c on the .deb09:53
ademanalright thanks09:53
LaserJockademan: also install lintian and linda and run lintian -i and linda -i on the .deb09:53
ademanis there any way to do that from the rules file? seems like a good idea09:53
LaserJockyou can also run lintian and linda on the source package too (by running it on the .dsc)09:53
LaserJockno, that's *after* you build09:54
ademantoo bad09:54
LaserJockwell, it's not hard to do :-)09:54
ademandpkg -c   just spat out a bunch of path names09:55
LaserJockademan: dpkg -c gives you the contents of the .deb as they are going to be installed on the user's computer09:55
ademanah, so should i be worried all of the paths are ./usr  ./etc    and so on?09:55
LaserJockademan: you should check to make sure everything you *think* should be there *is* there and in the right place09:55
LaserJocknope09:56
ademanalright, well i guess heregoes, should i lintian them first?09:56
LaserJockyeah, go for it09:56
LaserJockdpkg -c and lintian/linda could save sooo much time on REVU09:56
ademanyeah i'm not going to upload like this though, the package REALLY needs to be split up into multiple packages, for instance it includes a SDK among other things09:57
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ademanalso, it's installing a bunch of shared objects into /usr/share, when it should be usr/lib shouldnt it?09:58
ademansince share is for stuff like images, GUI xml files, etc, non-binary stuff right?09:59
ademancrap, i gotta go, i'll be on again in about 4 hours10:00
ademanthanks for all the help10:00
Adri2000LaserJock: so, what do you think about the debian changelog link? it would be better for when there are many changelog entries since the last ubuntu version10:00
LaserJocksure10:01
Adri2000:)10:03
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Q-FUNKdammit.10:41
Q-FUNKyet another $curse user that assinged his generic upgrade problems to 'upgrade'system'.  i thought i had reassigned it, but it only ended up adding another package to the bug.10:41
Q-FUNKhow do I fix this?10:42
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Adri2000LaserJock: actually, I didn't see the link "changelog" on packages.qa.d.o and I was clicking on each link in "latest news" :p so it still would be better to have the link directly but it's up to you :)10:46
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Adri2000LaserJock: where can I download the source of multidistrotools?10:58
geserAdri2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiDistroTools11:01
geserbut I don't know if this is still uptodate11:01
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Adri2000geser: it says "bzr branch http://ox.blop.info/bazaar/multidistrotools/" but 40411:02
geserthen it's outdated11:02
Adri2000ping lucas, where can I download the source of multidistrotools?11:03
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LaserJockAdri2000: I have a bzr repo of it (with my patches)11:05
Adri2000LaserJock: please url :)11:06
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LaserJockhttp://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/multidistrotools/11:06
Adri2000thanks11:07
Simon80so, about my upload11:09
Simon80is there something else I have to do after getting it reviewed?11:09
Simon80...doing my homework now11:09
Simon80(researching it)11:09
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Simon80ok, I couldn't find anything - in summary, I packaged something simple and it's been advocated by one person - what has to happen before it gets into Feisty?11:21
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geserSimon80: you need a second advocate11:26
Simon80ok, change of subject :)11:26
Simon80so, anyone want to review my shiny little package? it even has a manpage!11:27
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coNPSimon80: what did you do? (I am not a MOTU, just interested)11:28
Simon80ah, it's logitech_applet, lets the user tweak the DPI and cruise control on certain Logitech mice11:29
Simon80I think I should add Gentoo's patches though, for MX300/51811:29
Simon80or I'll just package lomoco11:31
Simon80hrm11:31
coNPSimon80: thanks for the info11:33
Simon80it's pretty high time for at least one of these packages to get in11:33
Simon80and no problem :)11:33
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TheMusoWhich Ubuntu supported architectures are big endian? I know PPC is.11:48
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Simon80I think that's it, unless niagara is big endian11:50
Simon80and if your app's not a server app, you don't have to worry about that arch11:51
TheMusoWell the fact of the matter, is that all packages are built for sparc, so I want to make sure things are done right.11:52
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TheMusoRegardless of whether its only a server platform or not.11:52
TheMusoThe package I am working on could indeed be used on a server.11:53
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