[12:00] <ryanakca> how can I access my desktop remotely?
[12:01] <pipak> LjL: I'll give it a try
[12:01] <ashleyh> i typed in interfaces into the window thingy.
[12:01] <LjL> ashleyh: anyway, paste the output of "lspci" too, and "lshw"
[12:01] <ashleyh> I just manually typed out everything into the pastebin :)
[12:01] <pbureau> adaminla, a computer turned off you can load anything... so I will tentatively say.. it needs to be on
[12:01] <drx> How do I fix "Error occurred while installing GRUB" installing in a Xen VM?
[12:01] <LjL> ashleyh, no you didn't, you first typed /ect/network/interfacse and then /ect/network/interfaces - both are mispelled
[12:02] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | toM|vendettA
[12:02] <ubotu> toM|vendettA: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <adaminla> ok thanks.
[12:02] <SidSilver4> i figured it out
[12:02] <pbureau> adaminla,  what printer model, how is it connected to the pc  USB/network ??
[12:02] <dc2448> Does anyone know what chipset this wireless dongle http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/122088 - ZyXEL ZyAIR G-202 and what driver I should be using?
[12:03] <goodgerster> !vnc | ryanakca
[12:03] <ubotu> ryanakca: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:03] <adaminla> it's a hp d2360 and i'm installing hplip as per linuxprinting.org
[12:03] <ryanakca> goodgerster: thanks
[12:03] <TTT_Travis> (**) RADEON(0): Pitch = 15728880 bytes (virtualX = 1920, displayWidth = 1920)
[12:03] <TTT_Travis> when I run startx
[12:03] <LjL> pipak, do "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-kernel-devel fakeroot kernel-wedge kernel-package" and then go straight to the "old fashioned way" paragraph, if you have problems ask
[12:03] <Enverex> Is it possible to "schedule" a check on next boot on a drive?
[12:03] <TTT_Travis> I see that too
[12:03] <TTT_Travis> is that why it's stuck in 1920x540?
[12:03] <pbureau> adaminla,   open a browser and type this...link  --> http://localhost:631/  <- goto "printers"  and install it there
[12:04] <pbureau> Enverex, every 30 reboots it does it auto.
[12:04] <Enverex> pbureau, Actually it doesn't, I disabled that ages ago and I'm not going to reboot 30 times just to get it to check if I turn it back on, heh
[12:04] <LjL> ashleyh: i understand that if you have to type everything manually it's a pain. just type "lshw" and see if there's something resembling a network interface listed, and then "lspci | grep Ethernet", and paste that
[12:04] <goodgerster> Enverex: you can run it from a livecd if you like...
[12:05] <LjL> 1920
[12:05] <goodgerster> sudo fschk /dev/hdnx
[12:05] <LjL> 1920*540? now *that's* a resolution
[12:05] <joey1> hi
[12:05] <Enverex> goodgerster, I'd rather not try and fish one out. I mean this should be pretty simple, is there no way of sing it?
[12:05] <LjL> goodgerster: fsck even
[12:05] <Enverex> *doing
[12:05] <goodgerster> LjL: yeah, yeah
[12:05] <Enverex> goodgerster, Yeah I know the Syntax, I've been using Linux for 6 years
[12:05] <drx> Does anyone know how to fix "Error occurred while installing GRUB" during install?
[12:05] <adaminla> OK thanks i'll go there.
[12:05] <pbureau> Enverex,  ah ok... fschk should have a help on it
[12:06] <goodgerster> Enverex: in that case, edit your initfile to include it and then remove it next book
[12:06] <goodgerster> boot.
[12:06] <adaminla> OK i'll go to that page. thank you
[12:06] <drx> Does anyone know how to fix "Error occurred while installing GRUB" during install?
[12:06] <adaminla> OK i'll go to that page. thank you
[12:06] <tamacracka> WOOOOT
[12:06] <tamacracka> http://freshmeat.net/projects/kdetv/
[12:06] <tamacracka> KDETV lets you watch TV!!!
[12:06] <sykes> anyone have issues with ubuntu server install : kernel panic when booting the cd ?
[12:06] <wilee85> tamacracka, so does mythtv
[12:07] <unknown_host_> tamacracka, but you need a decoder?
[12:07] <goodgerster> tamacracka: yes, that's a TV reader
[12:07] <unknown_host_> sykes, nope - I don't do servers
[12:07] <Toma-> tvtime is the best.... imho
[12:07] <TTT_Travis> LjL yeah I have no clue why it is in that resolution
[12:07] <goodgerster> tamacracka: it is not a DRM-encrusted internet video streamer, which is apparently what you want
[12:07] <TTT_Travis> it should be more like 1280x768
[12:07] <tamacracka> aw man
[12:07] <TTT_Travis> thats what I set in xconfig
[12:07] <tamacracka> i just wanna see live tv :(
[12:07] <enemyxero> anybody know a channel of ubuntu in spanish?
[12:07] <shingalated> how do i add users to my courier imap server
[12:07] <tamacracka> without havin to buy a tv tuner
[12:07] <TTT_Travis> I am using the ati driver
[12:07] <sykes> unknown_host_: ahh.. is desktop install roughly the same as server though ?
[12:07] <fnord123> drm is good. it lets me manage my digital rights
[12:07] <goodgerster> tamacracka: then try wine, as I said ages ago
[12:07] <LjL> TTT_Travis: i assume you've tried a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:08] <goodgerster> I do wish people would pay attention
[12:08] <unknown_host_> sykes, not at all
[12:08] <ardchoille42> !es | enemyxero
[12:08] <ubotu> enemyxero: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:08] <unknown_host_> desktop install involves a live cd
[12:08] <tamacracka> yeah but wine is unstable :\
[12:08] <devilsadvocate> goodgerster, ?
[12:08] <goodgerster> fnord123: yes, of course. and a jail allows you to manage your analogue rights
[12:08] <unknown_host_> alternate install is pretty close though (other than the packages)
[12:08] <Stormx2> wilee85: Still around?
[12:08] <goodgerster> devilsadvocate: what?
[12:08] <tamacracka> last thing i need is for my machine to start f'n up becuse of microsoft programs.
[12:08] <Pooky> I have been running ubuntu in a VM to "try it out", and I plan on installing it natively this weekend. is there a way that I can export a list of the packages I've currently got installed to help ease the transition?
[12:08] <TTT_Travis> LjL yes
[12:08] <crackhead> can anyone help with a net install of ubuntu 6.06 over a wireless connection? i can't figure out what the parameters specifically would be for using instlux or similar
[12:08] <unknown_host_> tamacracka, wine can't bring down your system...
[12:08] <goodgerster> tamacracka: who says wine is unstable? and it's certainly not a microsoft program
[12:08] <LjL> Pooky: dpkg --get-selections
[12:08] <johnn> hello, is there an howto for installing vmware workstation (means building good deb's not just running install scripts)
[12:08] <fnord123> goodgerster: the people who will end up working in the freedom tower will work like slaves. ;)
[12:08] <unknown_host_> besides, wine is perfectly stable
[12:09] <TTT_Travis> and selected 1024x768 as the resolution, I tried it other times with different res and still got same result
[12:09] <LjL> however pooky, you really can just carry over everything from the VM if you like
[12:09] <sykes> unknown_host_: ahh.. the reason i ask is cuz the livecd boots, just the server install kernel panics :/
[12:09] <three> anyone here use openwengo
[12:09] <tamacracka> <,< i just dont want reliability problems
[12:09] <LjL> that's weird enough TTT_Travis, i have no clue
[12:09] <unknown_host_> sykes, huh
[12:09] <tamacracka> unstable = windows
[12:09] <sykes> unknown_host_: so perhaps i just do a desktop install from livecd.. then disable X
[12:09] <drx> I've actually had stability problems with WINE.  It crashes & dumps me out.  Is there a fix for this?
[12:09] <tamacracka> <- hates windows
[12:09] <Pooky> LjL, howso?
[12:09] <sykes> unknown_host_: to get a server :D
[12:09] <goodgerster> tamacracka: wine != windows
[12:09] <tamacracka> plus TVU works with intercrap 6
[12:09] <extreme> i kiss you ladies
[12:09] <unknown_host_> sykes, try the alternate install cd - I think it can install a command line system
[12:09] <extreme> :D
[12:09] <tamacracka> not firefox
[12:09] <Cryoniq> How do I get Microphone to work in 6.10?
[12:10] <sykes> unknown_host_: ok fella will do :D
[12:10] <Pooky> LjL, wiki/howto url?
[12:10] <sykes> unknown_host_: thanks for ur attention :D
[12:10] <goodgerster> tamacracka: well, you can use idiot exploiter under wine
[12:10] <dc2448> Does anyone know what chipset this wireless dongle http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/122088 - ZyXEL ZyAIR G-202 and what driver I should be using?
[12:10] <unknown_host_> sykes, hehe - wish people listened to me :-\
[12:10] <pbureau> Cryoniq,  check your alsamixer settings, defaults to mute
[12:10] <crackhead> how do you do a net install of 6.06 with a wireless card?
[12:10] <LjL> Pooky, well, it depends on the virtual machine program that you're using, but it's definitely possible. Ubuntu doesn't complain much if you move it from one computer to another (and a VM is just another computer)
[12:10] <goodgerster> dc2448: no, we don't, or we'd have said
[12:10] <Cryoniq> oki =)
[12:10] <tamacracka> lol
[12:10] <pbureau> dc2448, if it is a usb wireless good luck
[12:10] <unknown_host_> w00t, f-spot rules (NOT)
[12:11] <LjL> Pooky: don't have a howto, but do you already have a partition set up for ubuntu?
[12:11] <dwhsix> geez -- is there really no utility to convert a file from UTF-16 to UTF-8?  any ideas?
[12:11] <Pooky> LjL, right. I guess I'd just be worried about driver dependencies and stuff. It just seems cleaner to have it reinstall the packages I use to me.
[12:11] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: f-spot is tolerable in its way.. what's your problem?
[12:11] <drx> Does anyone know how to fix "Error occurred while installing GRUB" during install?
[12:11] <unknown_host_> how do I force unmount a partition, ignoring "device/resource is busy"?
[12:11] <TTT_Travis> LjL I just tried 640x480 and that worked, but I kind of want a higher res then that
[12:11] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, no problem :-\
[12:11] <LjL> Pooky: no, not really. drivers will really mostly work, you'll probably just have to install the right X driver and that'll be all
[12:11] <Pooky> ljl, I do not, this is currently a macbook, and I want to wipe and reinstall on it, I could move the VM to a server temporarily when I'm ready to go though
[12:11] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: you can't force it
[12:11] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, why not?
[12:12] <dc2448> pbureau: - it is a wireless usb
[12:12] <Cryoniq> pbureau: I already unmuted it there and turned up the level.. hmm
[12:12] <LjL> Pooky: in that case, perhaps it's quicker to reinstall from scratch.
[12:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Pooky about cloning | Pooky, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:12] <tamacracka> KatchTV!!!
[12:12] <pbureau> whats a good app to play MP3 and manage usb mp3 player files ? I have tried amarok, exaile, rhythmn box and xmms and no luck transfering mp3's from HDD to usb device
[12:12] <tamacracka> watches Internet TV!!
[12:12] <tamacracka> http://freshmeat.net/projects/katchtv/
[12:12] <LjL> Pooky: this should have the information you asked for in a more complete fashion
[12:12] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: well, why can one not obtain lethal doses of paracetamol from pharmacies?
[12:12] <LjL> Pooky: also, you might be interested in this
[12:12] <goodgerster> tamacracka: that's nice
[12:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Pooky about minimal | Pooky, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:12] <tamacracka> :P
[12:12] <LjL> Pooky: assuming there is that for PPC too
[12:13] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, not the same thing - besides, this is a CDROM
[12:13] <tamacracka> just spreadin the word :P
[12:13] <drx> Anyone know how to fix "Error occurred while installing GRUB" during install?
[12:13] <pbureau> tamacracka, for free >
[12:13] <goodgerster> tamacracka: but it's not your service. it's only for free stuff
[12:13] <pbureau> ?
[12:13] <Pooky> ljl: thank you very much!
[12:13] <LjL> TTT_Travis: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252
[12:13] <unknown_host_> drx, we need more details than that...
[12:13] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: livecd?
[12:13] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, no, just a cd
[12:13] <pbureau> goodgerster,  know if that see french shows ? (grin)
[12:13] <adamwest> guys, how do i install gtk qt?
[12:13] <tamacracka> what do you mean goodster?
[12:13] <goodgerster> pbureau: it will watch any video podcasts
[12:13] <tamacracka> >.>
[12:13] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: meh
[12:13] <unknown_host_> "resource /dev/hda is busy" - I want the CD unmounted by force - how do I do it?
[12:13] <crackhead> how do you install over the net with a wireless connection ubuntu 6.06? what parameters or settings must be used?
[12:13] <crackhead> can someone pmme?
[12:14] <crackhead> pm me
[12:14] <pbureau> goodgerster,  ah I will have too look into it
[12:14] <BULLE> adamwest: apt-get install qt ?
[12:14] <drx> unk, what do you need to know?
[12:14] <Pooky> I have one other question, coming from a "work" macbook, we use exchange, and I was just wondering what kind of robust solutions people had found for dealing iwth it, I can't just use imap, I need calendaring and shared folders as well. I'm prepared to just run windows in a VM if need be, but I was hoping there might be a better way...
[12:14] <goodgerster> tamacracka: this watches video podcasts. it doesn't download drm-encrusted tv programs
[12:14] <dwhsix> found iconv
[12:14] <LjL> crackhead: you mean installing from a minimal CD, or actually installing without a CD at all? i guess that if your wifi card is not supported out-of-the-box, it might be kind of hard
[12:14] <crackhead> without
[12:14] <goodgerster> tamacracka: if you want to use your crappy activex control, use wine for goodness' sake
[12:14] <adamwest> BULLE is there a way to check if it's installed? because i instelled it from the package thing and it still doesnt work
[12:14] <tamacracka> i want NOTHING to do with WINE.
[12:15] <tamacracka> NOTHING.
[12:15] <adamwest> BULLE:  (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/)
[12:15] <goodgerster> tamacracka: why?
[12:15] <tamacracka> cuz i dont want problems later on
[12:15] <tamacracka> im a noob
[12:15] <goodgerster> tamacracka: what sort of problems?
[12:15] <tamacracka> window and linux dont get along.
[12:15] <tamacracka> i dunno i just dont want anything to be unstable at all.
[12:15] <unknown_host_> tamacracka, wine has nothing to do with windows
[12:15] <tamacracka> that's why i LEFT windows.
[12:15] <unknown_host_> it has nothing to do with unstable
[12:15] <goodgerster> tamacracka: wine is not windows. and it cannot make your system unstable
[12:15] <unknown_host_> and Windows has nothing to do with unstable
[12:15] <pbureau> tamacracka,  wine is not windows ...
[12:15] <LjL> tamacracka, clear up your mind
[12:15] <drx> "Error occurred while installing GRUB" during during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stagee2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed
[12:15] <tamacracka> does wine
[12:15] <tamacracka> use
[12:15] <LjL> !enter
[12:15] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:15] <tamacracka> windows programs?
[12:16] <tamacracka> that's an assoication
[12:16] <tamacracka> i cannot afford any association with windows.
[12:16] <LjL> tamacracka: WINE is the thing that *allows* you to run Windows programs. it doesn't *use* Windows programs
[12:16] <pbureau> tamacracka,  nope its a linux app
[12:16] <unknown_host_> tamacracka, err............ then give up, activex is for windows
[12:16] <LjL> tamacracka: then you're *most* definitely out of luck with ActiveX
[12:16] <goodgerster> tamacracka: for the last time, wine is not unstable or windows-based. I give up
[12:16] <LjL> tamacracka: you can't have Windows *and* not have anything to do with Windows
[12:16] <raecchi> Hey all. Trying to make scim work... It's installed, and seems to pop up... But whenever I try to leftclick on the frontend icon, nothing comes up. Rightclick works fine.... Help??
[12:17] <unknown_host_> tamacracka, and also, for the last time, the only reason windows would be unstable is if you f***ed it up
[12:17] <hagabaka> should scripts in /etc/init.d for a package be removed when the package is removed?
[12:17] <unknown_host_> hagabaka, YES
[12:17] <tamacracka> windows sucks.
[12:17] <tamacracka> as soon as you instal lit
[12:17] <tamacracka> it sucks.
[12:17] <goodgerster> hagabaka: yes, otherwise borkage follows
[12:17] <pbureau> tamacracka,  yes yes... change record will you
[12:17] <LjL> tamacracka: what windows does has nothing to do with this channel
[12:17] <goodgerster> tamacracka: we know. but WINE IS NOT WINDOWS
[12:17] <LjL> and once again
[12:17] <LjL> !enter | tamacracka
[12:17] <ubotu> tamacracka: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:17] <hagabaka> is it done automatically?
[12:17] <BULLE> adamwest: i seriously doubt that gnome theme requires qt
[12:17] <goodgerster> !enter | LjL
[12:17] <ubotu> LjL: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:17] <goodgerster> :P
[12:17] <hagabaka> why do i have many left overs there?
[12:17] <drx> 'Error occurred while installing GRUB' during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stagee2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:17] <drx> 'Error occurred while installing GRUB' during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stagee2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:18] <adamwest> BULLE: did you look at the link?
[12:18] <LjL> !repeat | drx
[12:18] <ubotu> drx: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:18] <goodgerster> !pastebin | drx
[12:18] <ubotu> drx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:18] <BULLE> adamwest: yes
[12:18] <tamacracka> KatchTV is exactly what i was lookin for
[12:18] <LjL> hagabaka, no, they won't be removed unless you *purge* the package
[12:18] <BULLE> adamwest: its some gnome gtk theme
[12:18] <tamacracka> thanks for misunderstanding my needs.
[12:18] <tamacracka> peace.
[12:18] <LjL> hagabaka: "man apt-get", hit /, and type "purge" and Enter
[12:18] <hagabaka> hmm
[12:18] <drx> what do you want me to paste?
[12:18] <goodgerster> tamacracka: no, it's not. it is a video podcast reader
[12:19] <hagabaka> why isn't it done automatically if not doing it results in brokage?
[12:19] <goodgerster> well, he was a moron...
[12:19] <adamwest> BULLE: i can't run that. it displays like it's the old gnome theme
[12:19] <unknown_host_> hagabaka, depends, maybe the install script for the program sucked
[12:19] <zeer88> hi all!
[12:19] <unknown_host_> or maybe it couldn't because something somewhere broke
[12:19] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[12:19] <zeer88> hmmm...on gnome, why do the panel window list appears a bit "off" sometimes??
[12:20] <Cryoniq> Verified that Mic sits in correct input.. but nothing gets through via ALSA.. hmm.. weird. Sound otherwise work good
[12:20] <LjL> hagabaka: not doing it shouldn't result in breakage at all
[12:20] <LjL> hagabaka: what package was that?
[12:20] <hagabaka> hmm
[12:20] <hagabaka> postfix, fetchmail, sendmail, privoxy, etc
[12:20] <drx> error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stagee2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:20] <sparr_> I have a number of hard drives that may or may not be defective.  [How]  Can I check them thoroughly from a boot disc prior to installing linux?
[12:20] <zeer88> i mean...i have plenty of space left, but it squeezes the open window list on one side
[12:20] <zeer88> which means i can't read anything!!
[12:20] <LjL> hagabaka, are you telling me that those packages break when you remove them?
[12:21] <hagabaka> no, i have removed them, but their scripts in /etc/init.d are still there
[12:21] <LjL> hagabaka, and i'm telling you that's *normal*. but it shouldn't cause any problems
[12:21] <goodgerster> Pooky: what's the trouble?
[12:21] <farruinn> zeer88: right-click on the tab, select prefrences, then check the minimum size
[12:21] <LjL> hagabaka: stuff in /etc is *not* removed *unless* you *purge* a package
[12:21] <drx> Error during install 'Running "install -- stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed'
[12:21] <LjL> removing it is not good enough
[12:21] <LjL> hagabaka, man apt-get
[12:21] <Enverex> What is the easiest way to force an fsck of the root filesystem on next boot?
[12:21] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Enverex about fsck | Enverex, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:21] <zeer88> ohhh thanks a lot farruinn !!
[12:22] <goodgerster> Enverex: we've been through this. modify your initscripts or use a livecd
[12:22] <hagabaka> so do they check that the packages are not installed?
[12:22] <Enverex> LjL, Yeah I know how to use fsck and I've read the manpage
[12:22] <LjL> goodgerster: uh?
[12:22] <Pooky> goodgerster: I want to use ubuntu at work, we have exchange, and while evolution seems to be working well for mail and calendar, I have one other need, which is shared folders and was wondering if there was a solution that I wasn't aware of or an alternative application.
[12:22] <zeer88> i'm still a n00b, and i use linux 8 months from now lol =p
[12:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell goodgerster about fsck | goodgerster, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:22] <fokuslee> hi i would like to install the cpu freqency selecter is it dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets?
[12:22] <LjL> Enverex: then also DO read the factoid the BOT sent you please
[12:22] <BrendanM> Tamacracka, SopCast lets you watch some live tv over the internet without a tuner
[12:22] <farruinn> zeer88: no problem :)
[12:22] <goodgerster> LjL: I'm perfectly aware of fsck thanks
[12:22] <BrendanM> it's not that great though
[12:22] <gumpish> =/ Is there a way to view information about your processor in Dapper?
[12:22] <LjL> goodgerster: you too
[12:22] <metal03> Hello everyone...  I'm still fairly new to Linux/Ubuntu and I'd like to know if there is a way to access a shared folder on a WindowsXP platform on my roomate's computer from my computer (Edgy64)
[12:22] <ompaul> Enverex, shutdown -F Options
[12:22] <Enverex> goodgerster, I was just wondering if there was any simple obvious way of doing it. Editing the firstrun initscripts could easily bork the system and I have little free time to unbork
[12:22] <hagabaka> sometimes two packages would have the same binary, and if a script from a different pacakge used such a binary, i would imagine there could be problems
[12:22] <goodgerster> Pooky: hmm, shared folders? those would be WebDAV unless I'm mistaken
[12:23] <fisheye> did anyone sucefully install fijuu 2 ??
[12:23] <goodgerster> Enverex: livecd it is then
[12:23] <crackhead> anyone know why an installation disc will return a correct md5 checksum but then give a cd read i/o error?
[12:23] <LjL> goodgerster, Enverex:   the question was "What is the easiest way to force an fsck of the root filesystem on next boot?", and the bot answers that *fine*
[12:23] <LjL> !fsck
[12:23] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:23] <Pooky> goodgerster: no, not those, these are like, internal mailing lists
[12:23] <fisheye> !cheese
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <hagabaka> also it seems a lot of wasted work to check for all those things that don't exist on start up
[12:23] <tarelerulz> I want to run this past guys I ran installer cd with grub for nt and I am thing about use gpated the same way so I can resize my ntfs so I can install ubuntu
[12:23] <Enverex> LjL, Yeah, Ok. I read it, geez.
[12:23] <LjL> "will force a reboot and a filesystem check", goodgerster and enverex
[12:23] <Pooky> goodgerster: it's like a mail folder that you subscribe too
[12:23] <pbureau> metal03,  get your buddy to share the folder under windows and you should be able to access it through places/network
[12:23] <goodgerster> Pooky: well
[12:24] <hagabaka> i knew that apt-get purge is required for removing configuration, and that makes sense, but these are not really configurations
[12:24] <LjL> goodgerster, Enverex: and i'll add, if you don't want to force a reboot, leave the "-r now" away, or touch /forcefsck IIRC
[12:24] <goodgerster> Pooky: try the Connect to Server option in the Places menu. other than that, I am not sure. evolution ought to do it
[12:24] <LjL> hagabaka: well, it might not make sense but it's like that. it's not a bug
[12:24] <Pooky> goodgerster: ok, thanks for the suggestion.
[12:24] <odnigmann> hi.. someone use the app airodump?
[12:24] <pbureau> metal03,  you will need SAMBA installed though
[12:24] <I-kido> !deborphan
[12:24] <ubotu> deborphan is a program used to clean up packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept).
[12:24] <adamwest> guys how come http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/ <--- that doesn't display right?
[12:24] <tarelerulz> does the Gparted live cd work the same way as installer cd
[12:24] <farruinn> hagabaka: configuration generally goes under /etc/, so I suppose remove leaves everything in /etc/ alone regardless if it's config
[12:25] <metal03> pbureau: I only see a file type called mshome...  says I can't access it cause it's not a folder!
[12:25] <hagabaka> so do you know how it could handle the situation where a binary from some other package is refered to by those scripts?
[12:25] <unknown_host_> tarelerulz, no
[12:25] <unknown_host_> it's a live cd with gparted
[12:25] <goodgerster> I-kido: APT now has that functionality built in. use apt-get autoremove
[12:25] <I-kido> lol
[12:25] <I-kido> tnx
[12:25] <tarelerulz> If I can run installed cd with grub and not need the cd
[12:25] <pbureau> metal03,  so the folder is shared ? mshome is the "group", assuming his pc is on. and your both on the same network, I woul check if SAMBA is installed. (need it)
[12:26] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[12:26] <drx> is anyone here knowledgable enough to assist me with an installation error?
[12:26] <Roscar> hi, I want to put a song encoded in flac on my ipod. I use GTKpod and it doesn't seem to adknowlege flac files. Is there a way I can fix this?
[12:26] <enyc> hrrm i dont take notice of the workgroup usually intreestingly
[12:26] <crackhead> yeah goodgester
[12:26] <crackhead> i have a question
[12:26] <shatrat^class> Ill take a sam adams.
[12:26] <goodgerster> crackhead: go on
[12:26] <enyc> i just use netbios name and the workgroup doesnt nseem to matter
[12:26] <crackhead> i put in an install cd, which has a correct md5 checksum, and it then gives an error when i boot. an i/o erro. says can't read from cd.
[12:26] <crackhead> trying to boot ubuntu 6.06
[12:26] <metal03> pbureau : I know nothing about SAMBA...  it's probably not installed!  How and where do I find it?
[12:26] <enyc> 6.06.1 is not qutie same as 6.06 cd
[12:27] <pbureau> crackhead,  2 possibilities your cd was badly written/closed or you have a bad cd drive.
[12:27] <goodgerster> crackhead: the ISO's md5 was OK, you mean... the disc is buggered independently of the ISO
[12:27] <graft> crackhead: drive problem?
[12:27] <tarelerulz> I don't knon if the ipod can be to be read flac and as for as linux ipod I don't think they are that far
[12:27] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[12:27] <Stormx2> Okay
[12:27] <shatrat> crackhead: Does the ISO have the correct md5, or did you run the CD check utility off the CD?
[12:27] <goodgerster> tarelerulz: FLAC is not supported by ipods. banshee automatically translates to mp3 when ipodding
[12:27] <Stormx2> Anyone here use LIRC with soundcard input?
[12:27] <crackhead> tried two different cd drives. i dont think they're both 'bad'. they seem to work fine, and the checksum was exactly correct after it burned.. why would that be, but then the cd or the drive would be bad?
[12:27] <enyc> tarelerulz: you can run rockbox on many ipod units ... which reads flac iirc... not sure about playback speed realtime
[12:27] <adamwest> please guys -- how come --> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/ <--- doesn't display right? other themes are ok but this one isnt
[12:27] <crackhead> the iso has the correct.
[12:28] <shatrat> crackhead: what speed did you burn at? My friend had that problem the other day and when he reburned at 4x it worked.
[12:28] <odnigman> anyone use the app airodump for wifi? :S
[12:28] <tarelerulz> goodgester try ipod linux I think it is come along nice  and might read it
[12:28] <graft> adamwest: what are you talking about?
[12:28] <crackhead> i tried burning at a few different speeds. each time, correct md5, then same problem when booting/installing from the cd. speeds i tried were 2x and 4x and max (~4.5x).
[12:28] <Enverex> Well that was a big waste of time
[12:29] <Enverex> That didn't work
[12:29] <goodgerster> tarelerulz: as I said, banshee automatically converts to ipod-readable formats no matter what you said about ipodlinux
[12:29] <goodgerster> Enverex: ?
[12:29] <SamerZiadeh> hello, I'm back after trying to install ubuntu over and over and it didn't work
[12:29] <shatrat> crackhead: I can't think of anything else to try at the moment.
[12:29] <Enverex> LjL, It went to do a check, said it was "Clean" and didn't bother.
[12:29] <Koios> can i insert a small question?
[12:29] <tarelerulz> Then use it  goodgerster
[12:29] <adamwest> graft: gnome themes work for me, but when i tried to install this --> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/ <--- it didn't display right... only the colors applied but the buttons and everything looked like the old gnome
[12:29] <goodgerster> tarelerulz: I do
[12:29] <crackhead> perhaps there is a specific paramater necessary for my hardware configuration/controller?
[12:29] <SamerZiadeh> did it fail to install for anyone
[12:29] <holycow> !atheros
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <nothlit> crackhead, you checksummed the iso and the disc?
[12:29] <goodgerster> tarelerulz: however, it wasn't my question
[12:29] <tarelerulz> How did it work out
[12:30] <crackhead> that's all i can think of, but i'm not sure what it is. i tried a few different alternate parameters in the ubuntu start-up menu, but they did'nt work. same error.
[12:30] <goodgerster> Enverex: then it's clean, surely
[12:30] <holycow> so what is the deal with atheros chipseets ... are the supported by open source drivers + binary blob ... or are they reverse engineered drivers?
[12:30] <shatrat> SamerZiadeh: Installs can fail for lots of reasons.  Have you perhaps tried with the alternative CD?
[12:30] <pbureau> !automatix | metal03
[12:30] <ubotu> metal03: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:30] <crackhead> i checksummed the iso. when i try to checksum from booted on the ubuntu menu, it gives same read - i/o error.
[12:30] <SamerZiadeh> yea that's the one I used
[12:30] <Enverex> goodgerster, That's not the point, I WANT a check and I don't believe that it is clean
[12:30] <graft> adamwest: um, do you get an error when you launch gtk2 apps from the shell?
[12:30] <pbureau> opps sorry ops not what I was trying to do
[12:30] <cniowenm> i have probleme with installation   NFS problem  i need help
[12:31] <SamerZiadeh> it installed the base system fine, but when it got to the additional packages thing it kept on failling so I skipped it
[12:31] <adamwest> the shell? i just use the theme manager
[12:31] <unknown_host_> what's the status of feisty at the moment?
[12:31] <briancann> hey guys trying to change permissions of a program directory in my home folder to be opened with the default user account
[12:31] <SamerZiadeh> now when I boot ubuntu it loads tty1 but I can't log in
[12:31] <adamwest> and no it isn't displaying errors... not as far as i noticed.
[12:31] <shatrat> SamerZiadeh: Did you perhaps not have a network connection?
[12:31] <farruinn> Enverex: I believe running shutdown -F now will put you into single user mode. You should be able to run fsck as you like from there
[12:31] <crackhead> nothlit: did you get that last msg of mine?
[12:31] <graft> adamwest: no i mean... try launching like, gcalctool from the shell
[12:31] <adamwest> umm sec
[12:31] <SamerZiadeh> shatrat: no I had a connection
[12:31] <unknown_host_> can anyone recommend a download manager for linux?
[12:31] <goodgerster> Enverex: why do you not trust the system? it knows rather more about itself than you do... nevertheless, I'm sure man or google will supply a switch to force it
[12:31] <Enverex> farruinn, root would still be mounted so I still couldn't run it
[12:31] <maddash> unknown_host_: wget
[12:31] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: wget :P
[12:31] <adamwest> yup, graft -- it works fine
[12:32] <maddash> goodgerster: :P
[12:32] <shatrat> !wget
[12:32] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[12:32] <unknown_host_> maddash, goodgerster, lol - but wget doesn't do leeching
[12:32] <b14ck73425> cany anyone help me connect to an old laptop via a serial port
[12:32] <graft> adamwest: no error output in the shell?
[12:32] <maddash> unknown_host_: "leeching"?
[12:32] <nothlit> !minimal | crackhead
[12:32] <Enverex> goodgerster, I've encountered enough different issues over the many years and I had to do some funky things to get Ubuntu installed in the first place with filesystems
[12:32] <ubotu> crackhead: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:32] <adamwest> nope
[12:32] <unknown_host_> maddash, multiple connections
[12:32] <briancann> hey guys trying to change permissions of a program directory in my home folder to be opened with the default user account
[12:32] <goodgerster> maddash: downloading an entire directory
[12:32] <graft> adamwest: um, try using gtk-theme-switch2
[12:32] <adamwest> umm should i use the theme that doesn't work when i try? graft?
[12:32] <graft> adamwest: uh, yeah, that would be the idea :P
[12:33] <crackhead> you think that trying the minimal cd will have better success? which cd was i using that was 719mb?
[12:33] <SamerZiadeh> shatrat: to fix the loging in problem, I copied my passwd and shadow files from my suse system, but I didn't try it yet. not sure if that would work though
[12:33] <shatrat> actually I think wget can do that with some arguments iirc
[12:33] <maddash> unknown_host_: if you want to download a whole dir, man wget
[12:33] <cniowenm> who can i solve  NFS probleme
[12:33] <adamwest> btw it can't find taht command
[12:33] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: I reckon wget would have a fairly good multi-connection thing, and leeching is likely supported also. see "man wget"
[12:33] <graft> adamwest: yeah, that's fine, might not be installed...
[12:33] <pbureau> whats a good app to play MP3 and manage usb mp3 player files ? I have tried amarok, exaile, rhythmn box and xmms and no luck transfering mp3's from HDD to usb device
[12:33] <Flannel> crackhead: minimal CD vs Alternate CD is just one has packages on it (alternate) the other downloads (minimal, and therefore has newer ones out of the box), the installer is the same
[12:34] <shatrat> SamerZiadeh: Is it giving you a login prompt?
[12:34] <goodgerster> pbureau: banshee does USB stuff lovelyly
[12:34] <b14ck73425> i just transfer my mp3s manually
[12:34] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, also - GUI :-\
[12:34] <goodgerster> pbureau: even transcodes to known working formats
[12:34] <crackhead> i was using the minimal cd, then, already, not the alternate. though, if the installer is the same, and i need a special parameter for this hardware, which i dont know (and am hoping maybe someone can suggest), then im in the same problem.
[12:34] <pbureau> goodgerster,  ah great I am installing it right now.
[12:34] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: you can't use linux properly without the CLI. don't be a baby
[12:34] <emo> I have xubuntu and ubuntu in my machine how can I remove one of them...I'd tryed but I think that I hadn't done properly
[12:34] <SamerZiadeh> shatrat: yea it is
[12:34] <Flannel> crackhead: what you might try, depending on how much stuff you have (other computers, etc) is some of the alternative methods
[12:34] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, I just don't think that using X to run terminals is a great use of resources
[12:34] <farruinn> goodgerster: that's not quite the point of Ubuntu
[12:35] <Flannel> !install | crackhead
[12:35] <ubotu> crackhead: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:35] <SamerZiadeh> but I don't have any users, nor do I have a password for root, I tried blank too
[12:35] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: well, I suggest you use tty then :P
[12:35] <Flannel> crackhead: that first link has tons of methods, you might look over them, see if any might work for you
[12:35] <adamwest> hu. this is weird, graft. it works all of a sudden :|
[12:35] <unknown_host_> goodgerster, I like my X server, lol
[12:35] <pbureau> b14ck73425,  yes I know, but I have 12800 files... and I l ike a random choice done by software.. (too time consuming to manualy do it myself)
[12:35] <goodgerster> farruinn: no, but ubuntu remains a linux distro...
[12:35] <shatrat> SamerZiadeh: but the username and pass you setup at install don't work?  I'm at a loss here.  Can you boot in safe mode and it log you in as root, then add a user?
[12:35] <unknown_host_> besides, gui just looks prettier
[12:35] <b14ck73425> got it
[12:35] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: I would look in Add/Remove Programs for something. but they're all rather poor compared to wget
[12:35] <LjL> Enverex: well i'd say that means fsck found out the fs was clean... still if you want it to check it thoroughly, i suppose you could do a "tune2fs -C 99" on the filesystem
[12:35] <maddash> unknown_host_: google might be your friend here...chk for a "gui interface to wget"
[12:36] <b14ck73425> thats the only way i can do it though, if you find a better way let me know
[12:36] <unknown_host_> maddash, eww - like GNOME WGET? it sucks
[12:36] <goodgerster> unknown_host_: bearing in mind that the GUI is much more a waste of resources
[12:36] <Tatster> Hi all.  I am just trying to get my first Ubuntu machine going  but the live cd won't run - can't access tty
[12:36] <Tatster> Xubuntu works, just not Ubuntu
[12:36] <graft> um, what about axel?
[12:36] <maddash> unknown_host_: how so?
[12:36] <unknown_host_> huh, "Downloader for X" doesn't look half bad
[12:36] <graft> unknown_host_
[12:36] <farruinn> goodgerster: The goal of Ubuntu is a linux *desktop*. I love using the command line, think it's great, etc, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore other solutions too
[12:36] <SamerZiadeh> shatrat: it did ask me to set a password at one point during installation, that password didn't work, and I didn't install GRUB with ubuntu, I'm using the one that comes with SUSE
[12:36] <unknown_host_> maddash, it doesn't work?
[12:36] <b14ck73425> anyone know how to access a laptop via serial port
[12:36] <b14ck73425> ???
[12:37] <Enverex> LjL, Yeah, that was what I first thought of doing, I guess I'll do that now
[12:37] <SamerZiadeh> shatrat: I don't know the grub commands to boot on ubuntu safe mode
[12:37] <pbureau> b14ck73425,  got a cross over serial cable ?
[12:37] <maddash> unknown_host_: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=gui+to+wget&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[12:37] <adamwest> btw graft do you know a good theme site aside from art.gnome and gnome-look?
[12:37] <b14ck73425> not sure
[12:37] <khally> what the heck you guys, did vi change its default behaviour between 6.06 and 6.10???/
[12:37] <unknown_host_> maddash, yea yea...
[12:37] <cafuego_> SamerZiadeh: You pick 'recovery' in the grub menu.
[12:37] <gin> somebody where can i find good information for xgl to edgy ?
[12:37] <unknown_host_> I don't want a gui to wget, lol
[12:37] <Flannel> khally: 6.10 includes a stripped version of vim by default, not the full one
[12:37] <pbureau> b14ck73425,  that be the first step without one.. pretty tought
[12:37] <maddash> unknown_host_: seriously, the first link
[12:37] <gin> know*
[12:37] <goodgerster> farruinn: meh, it just doesn't pay to be a GUI sticklet
[12:37] <metal03> pbureau : I've installed SAMBA but it's still not working...  Do I need to do anything special with SAMBA?
[12:37] <b14ck73425> assuming i have a crossover
[12:37] <graft> unknown_host_: what are you looking for exactly, eh?
[12:37] <b14ck73425> could you tell me how to do it?
[12:38] <khally> Flannel, well I don't know what's going on but when I hit 'i' it doesn't seem to be going into a true INSERT mode
[12:38] <khally> it's REALLY WEIRD
[12:38] <pbureau> metal03,  nope... you sure the directory is shared properly without a password on windows ?
[12:38] <unknown_host_> graft, generic gui download manager/accelerator
[12:38] <khally> and it's creeping me out
[12:38] <SamerZiadeh> cafuego: but as I mentioned, I don't have that option since I didn't install grub with ubuntu, I already had one with suse so I added ubuntu to the grub I already had
[12:38] <graft> unknown_host_: axel-kapt
[12:38] <Flannel> khally: right, believe that's the stripped version.  Let me double check the package name for the full one
[12:38] <cafuego_> SamerZiadeh: Then yoiu edit 'e' on the entry you want to boot, then hit 'e' on the kernel line and append the word 'single' to the end of that line. Then hit esc, and hit 'b'.
[12:38] <Atomiku> I have ubuntu IP masquerating to two computers, Is there a way to limit how much bandwidth one of the computers can use?
[12:39] <unknown_host_> graft, kde?
[12:39] <cafuego_> Atomiku: Have  alook at 'wondershaper'
[12:39] <Koios> Hey. I'm trying to resise my exist (and all encompassing) ntfs partition to install ubuntu. At the moment, gparted fails to do so, and i'm trying to move all my files to the front of the existing partition, in case that would help. Any way to do that? (windows defragmenter isn't doing much)
[12:39] <Atomiku> !wondershaper
[12:39] <tarelerulz> How much space does ubuntu need ?
[12:39] <ubotu> wondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:39] <Koios> *ing
[12:39] <Atomiku> cafuego_: Thanks dude :-)
[12:39] <graft> unknown_host_: kde libs, anyway.
[12:40] <Flannel> khally: installing "vim" should work.  you currently have "vim-tiny"  there's also a "vim-full" in universe, but I don't know what the difference between that and plain vim (in main -- fully supported) is
[12:40] <shatrat> tarelerulz: I think the official number is like 2 gigs, but youll be really limited in what toys you can install
[12:40] <metal03> pbureau : I created this directory myself to test it before trying the real stuff...  so I'm sure there's no password!  But when I do Places > Network Servers > Windows Network > mshome it tell me I don't have access
[12:40] <cafuego_> Atomiku: For more advanced, there's tcq in the kernel.
[12:40] <unknown_host_> graft, yea - good thing I already have em
[12:40] <khally> Flannel, many thanks, installing now, that looks right
[12:40] <shatrat> tarelerulz: My answer would be "how much have you got?"
[12:40] <metal03> pbureau : Oh wait...
[12:40] <Dere1> hi, is anyone here from this morning?
[12:40] <SamerZiadeh> cafuego: ok I'll try that
[12:40] <shatrat> Good luck SamerZiadeh
[12:40] <SamerZiadeh> thanks, brb hopefully from ubuntu
[12:41] <tarelerulz> I am going to try and  resize my ntfs and make room for ubuntu . The ntfs has 5 gigs of free speace
[12:41] <adri_> hi everybody. i just want to have your recommandation. i'm looking for a programm like frontpage which is easy to use with a good graphic interface...but of course, the programm i'm looking for is for ubuntu ;)
[12:41] <shingalated> can someone tell me how to add users to my courier-imap mail server?
[12:41] <graft> tarelerulz: back it up, eh
[12:41] <adamwest> someone familiar with WINE?
[12:41] <Dere1> ok, does anyone have some experiance with x1300 graphics drivers?
[12:41] <shatrat> tarelerulz: ouch.  YOu migth want to delete some crap from windows.
[12:41] <unknown_host_> adamwest, me... kind of
[12:41] <shatrat> tarelerulz: that doesnt leave you much headroom in either OS
[12:41] <metal03> pbureau : SWEET!!  It works...  it just takes about a minute to refresh but it works...  thanks!
[12:41] <shatrat> adamwest: im somewhat familiar with it
[12:42] <tarelerulz> Well, does Gparted make new partitions too?
[12:42] <shatrat> tarelerulz: sure does
[12:42] <pbureau> metal03, sometimes it will say " cannot access " just refresh and it will come up...
[12:42] <adamwest> shatrat, unknown_host_: well, it's IE, right? so where does it store all the "bad" stuff that i used to clean? like cookies and perhaps adware?
[12:42] <Flannel> shingalated: doesn't courier just use normal linux accounts? (as opposed to a separate db)
[12:42] <tarelerulz> So, I could resize ntfs and then make ext3 with it
[12:42] <tarelerulz> I am try some out there way to do it
[12:42] <unknown_host_> adamwest, ? wine is not IE
[12:43] <adamwest> unknown_host_: ah oops i meant IEs4LINUX
[12:43] <oFF-beAt> i've got nvidia driver installed.. but when i do "glxinfo | grep -i direct" i get "direct rendering: No" how do i enable direct rendering
[12:43] <shatrat> adamwest: well, if you run IE in wine then I assume in puts them wherever IE puts them in windows.
[12:43] <tarelerulz> I am use grub for nt to boot linux install or Gparted live cd
[12:43] <adamwest> shatrat: but linux doesn't have this kind of file management... does it?
[12:43] <livingdaylight> anyone know about telepathy?
[12:43] <Atomiku> So... with wondershaper how can I limit the traffic that an IP masqueraded computer can use?
[12:43] <Dere1> can someone help me with graphics driver?? idont get it??
[12:43] <tarelerulz> if I can boot Gparted live cd then I could use it to resize my ntfs
[12:43] <adamwest> livingdaylight: telepathy?
[12:43] <unknown_host_> adamwest, stores em in "C:\windows\profiles\username\application data" and "C:\windows\profiles\username\local settings" I think - where C: is depends on your wine settings
[12:43] <Flannel> adamwest: wine does, yes.  it emulates the paths inside your home dir
[12:43] <Atomiku> I see here that it can limit the bw of a certain interface... but not an IP
[12:44] <shatrat> adamwest: there is a hidden wine directory in your home folder, cd .wine/drive_c
[12:44] <livingdaylight> adamwest, yes
[12:44] <livingdaylight> !telepathy
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about telepathy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <cafuego_> Atomiku: You run wondershaper on the interface you use for masking.
[12:44] <shatrat> adamwest: and in there is a whole windows style file tree
[12:44] <livingdaylight> adamwest, im+voip
[12:44] <Atomiku> But then it would limit the bw of the two computers, yes?
[12:44] <cafuego_> Atomiku: So yes, by interface, not by IP specifically.
[12:44] <cafuego_> Atomiku: yes
[12:44] <adamwest> ah thanks shatrat and unknown_host_ :D
[12:44] <Atomiku> Thats not what I want :-P
[12:44] <adamwest> where's the WINE preferences at?
[12:45] <shatrat> adamwest: no problem, I like questions I know the answer to
[12:45] <swx> Hi
[12:45] <shatrat> adamwest: im sure theres a config file in .wine somewhere, o ryou can run "winecfg"
[12:45] <shatrat> im 2 for 2
[12:45] <oFF-beAt> i've got nvidia driver installed.. but when i do "glxinfo | grep -i direct" i get "direct rendering: No" how do i enable direct rendering
[12:45] <adamwest> shatrat: ah it works, thanks
[12:45] <adri_> hi everybody, i'm looking for a html editor easy to use with a good graphic interface... a bit like frontpage. Does anyone know a programm like this????
[12:45] <swx> i would like to know if Beryl supports gnome taskbar and menu skinning?
[12:45] <shatrat> oFF-beAt: Do you have drive "nvidia" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:45] <cafuego_> Atomiku: If you want to do it by IP, you need to run kernel traffic shaping with `tc'.
[12:46] <tarelerulz> Beryl looks pretty cool to me
[12:46] <adamwest> waht windows version should i choose, shatrat?
[12:46] <Atomiku> cafuego: okay thanks :)
[12:46] <Flannel> swx: #ubuntu-xgl for beryl/xgl support (you might also try #beryl)
[12:46] <Dere1> how do ell graphics drivers work, i have ATI x1300 and i am following tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and im stuck on how to install it
[12:46] <pbureau> adri_,  have you checked out bluefish ?
[12:46] <swx> thank you
[12:46] <Atomiku> How would I go about doing this?
[12:46] <shatrat> swx: Beryl has its own theme manager, or it can use versions of Gnome or KDE themes
[12:46] <maddash> oFF-beAt: did you run `sudo dpkg-reconfig<tab> xserver-xorg`?
[12:46] <cafuego_> Atomiku: Which is well doable, but convoluted and obscure. (So google is your friend)
[12:46] <shatrat> swx: go to gnome-look.org and check out the Emerald / Beryl themes
[12:46] <Atomiku> Right
[12:47] <adri_> pbureau: no, in fact i don't know any html editor... but i'm going test bluefish, thank you
[12:47] <Dere1> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:47] <cafuego_> Something like tc class add dev eth0 parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq rate 128kbit allot 1500 prio 5 bounded isolated
[12:47] <Dere1> Someone, respond to Derek!!
[12:47] <LjL> Dere1: try one question, and zero exclamation marks
[12:47] <cafuego_> tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip src 192.168.1.100/32 flowid 1:2
[12:47] <swx> shatrat: Here is my problem, every window has the skin provided by beryl but my taskbar wont be skinned.. do you have an idea about this problem ? should i reinstall ?
[12:47] <shingalated> Can someone please tell me how to add users to my courier-imap mail server?
[12:47] <cafuego_> So you create a traffic class with a limit and then add rules to it
[12:48] <Dere1> sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[12:48] <Dere1> how does that work?
[12:48] <cafuego_> shingalated: It just uses system users unless you set it up otherwise.
[12:48] <shatrat> swx: well I havent really not noticed this, I made my gnome-panel mostly transparent
[12:48] <adamwest> where's wine installed at shatrat?
[12:48] <unknown_host_> swx, gnome-panel is not handled by emerald
[12:48] <cafuego_> Dere1: not
[12:48] <LjL> Dere1: does the howto really suggest to type that?
[12:48] <Dere1> ya
[12:48] <shatrat> adamwest: the program itself? probably somewhere in /usr  The stuff that wine installs, the windows programs, go into .wine in your home folder
[12:48] <unknown_host_> shatrat, mine's 50% transparent :-P (with shadow of course)
 well... no graphic interface supprots it ?
[12:49] <unknown_host_> swx, I never said that...
 wich one please :)
[12:49] <adamwest> shatrat: because it says the C is "mounted" at  -- ../drive_c -- so i guess that's where the WINE is..
[12:49] <LjL> Dere1: hm, i don't like that. anyway, why don't you just install the *official Ubuntu* driver instead of getting it from ati.com?
[12:49] <jonah1980_2> yo guys i know feisty is banned in here but i still can't use wireless cos i get the error: Segmentation fault (core dumped) and network-admin crashes when try change wireless settings... no one in feisty room can help and i wondered if anyone in here could... please?
[12:49] <shatrat> adamwest: wine is the linux app, its installed in linux.  drive_c is where windows apps get installed BY wine
[12:49] <Dere1> theres one from ubuntu??
[12:50] <unknown_host_> swx, huh - context? I don't recall saying "well... no graphical interface supports it" or "wich one please :)"
[12:50] <cafuego_> jonah1980_2: Fix: use an edgy kernel
[12:50] <adamwest> shatrat: oh. isn't that where WINE is installed 2?
[12:50] <elyon225> Okay, guys... I just bought an nVidia GeForce 6200.  I have a Radeon installed now.  I just wanted to know if there's anything I should do before switching them... will the drivers be installed automatically when I reboot?
[12:50] <khally> hi, I did `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop` but now how do I bring it up?  i'm still in textmode
[12:50] <shatrat> adamwest: type "which wine" from console and it will tell you where the executable is. :)
[12:50] <cafuego_> elyon225: No, you need to add the right drivers and change the X config.
[12:50] <jonah1980_2> cafuego, really?
[12:50] <maddash> khally: startx
[12:50] <cafuego_> jonah1980_2: yes
[12:50] <elyon225> cafuego_: Before or after installing the card?
[12:51] <adamwest> thanks
[12:51] <dabaR> khally: or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[12:51] <cafuego_> elyon225: That is entirely up to you.
[12:51] <raecchi> Can anyone help me with scim? I've got it installed, and configured exactly like my other computer... But when I go to click the panel icon, nothing comes up. Rightclick works fine... Help :(
[12:51] <emo> how do i know which version i got ?
[12:51] <emo> #
[12:51] <maddash> emo: uname -a
[12:51] <cafuego_> elyon225: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[12:51] <elyon225> cafuego_: If I install the card and then reboot, am I going to have problems getting back into KDE?
 I just want to kno0w wich graphic interface can handle taskbar skinning
[12:51] <Dere1> LjL: where would i find this driver that you speak of
[12:51] <jonah1980_2> cafuego, so would that be quite easy to set up or is there lots of messing around?
[12:51] <LjL> Dere1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9 - look at the table of contents before jumping straight into the first paragraph ;)
[12:51] <cafuego_> elyon225: Yes, you'll need to install and fix via the commandline.
[12:51] <adamwest> umm shatrat it gave me a wrong path
[12:51] <Dere1> ok, thx
[12:51] <adamwest> it doesn't exist
[12:52] <unknown_host_> swx, oh - you're talking to me, lol - try using ":" or "," :-P
[12:52] <khally> also: how do i go back to textmode? alt+ctrl+f2 doesn't seem to work!
[12:52] <shatrat> adamwest: it said /usr/bin/wine right?
[12:52] <adamwest> yup
[12:52] <emo> say again, please
[12:52] <unknown_host_> swx, I have no idea what app can skin panels - try heliodor - maybe that'll help
[12:52] <elyon225> cafuego_: And for someone that would have no clue how to do that? :P
[12:52] <livingdaylight> i read about telepathy in Linux User, anyone know about it?
[12:52] <fghj> how do I use a keyword to join a channel in xchat?
[12:52] <shatrat> adamwest: whats wrong with that? Thats where the wine executable is.
[12:52] <cafuego_> elyon225: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[12:52] <jonah1980_2> cafuego, the wireless card is detected and seems to work, it's just a feisty problem with network-admin...
[12:52] <dabaR> khally: it should. Try again. is it an apple?
[12:52] <tim167> what program recognises my type of keyboard by typing some keys _
[12:52] <adamwest> nautilus can't find the path
[12:52] <dabaR> fghj: /join #blah
[12:52] <fisheye> !love
[12:52] <khally> dabaR, no.. i just get a black screen, no prompt
[12:52] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[12:53] <cafuego_> elyon225: Do that now, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and tell it you want to use 'nvidia',
[12:53] <elyon225> cafuego_: Just so I'm clear... shutdown, install the card, and then startup into the commandline and run that command?
[12:53] <fghj> dabaR: where do I specify the keyword?
[12:53] <khally> when i go back to F7 the gui does come back but i get black screens otherwise
[12:53] <swx> shatrat: thank you
[12:53] <elyon225> oh ok
[12:53] <fisheye> hehehehehehe
[12:53] <emo> sorry didn't work...
[12:53] <shatrat> adamwest: Im not sure why you're looking for it in nautilus.  I think you may be operating under some kind of false pretenses.
[12:53] <swx> oups :P
[12:53] <dabaR> fghj: any xchat window
[12:53] <cafuego_> elyon225: No, run those commands now; shutdown, install card, boot, enjoy.
[12:53] <shatrat> swx: why thank me? I dont think I did anything.
[12:53] <elyon225> cafuego_: Thank you much! :)
[12:53] <raecchi> Could anyone help me with scim? I've got it installed, and configured like my other, working computer... But when I go to click the panel icon, nothing comes up. Help?
[12:53] <swx> unknown_host_: thank you
[12:53] <swx> shatrat: wrong click :)
[12:53] <fisheye> !hal9000
[12:53] <cafuego_> elyon225: Note, that means it will NOT work if you boot back up with the radeon.
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal9000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <adamwest> shatrat: oh i forgot that "wine" is for the app, not the folder... it found it. but i can't see "drive_c" anywhere
[12:54] <shatrat> swx: if you want to skin your taskbar try KDE.
[12:54] <unknown_host_> swx, lolz - don't take my word for it though, I haven't tried heliodor
[12:54] <dabaR> khally: what about alt-ctrl-f1?
[12:54] <adamwest> heck ill just search.
[12:54] <fisheye> last one
[12:54] <fghj> dabaR: cannot join #blah (Requires keyword)
[12:54] <swx> shatrat: no problem
[12:54] <fisheye> !clap
[12:54] <Flannel> adamwest: ~/.wine/drive_c/  (~ is home, the .wine means you need to show hidden folders)
[12:54] <emo> sorry once again how shall I check which version I got in my machine...
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <emo> ?
[12:54] <swx> shatrat:another wrong click :p
[12:54] <shatrat> adamwest: You need the directory for wine, and its in .wine (with a .) and files with a . are hidden by default, so use ctrl + H to show them
[12:54] <adamwest> they're showing
[12:54] <jonah1980_2> cafuego, i'm already using 2.6.19-7 cos my card works with that but not latest kernel... will an edgy kernel fix the network-admin bug and the Segmentation fault (core dumped) error?
[12:54] <emo> sorry
[12:54] <gnomefreak> emo: lsb_release -a or system>about ubuntu
[12:54] <elyon225> cafuego_: Should I be needing to put in my Kubuntu CD when running the first command?  Can't it get the driver from the internet?
[12:54] <swx> unknown_host_: no problem
[12:55] <adamwest> OH in my home
[12:55] <shatrat> jajajaja
[12:55] <Flannel> elyon225: you might need to comment out the CDrom from your repositories
[12:55] <adamwest> so how come it gave me the file instead of the actual locationof the app itself?
[12:55] <LjL> !botabuse | fisheye
[12:55] <ubotu> fisheye: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:55] <cafuego_> elyon225: it should get it from online, but it may prefer the CD if that's still available in your repository listing.
[12:56] <adamwest> haha found it, thanks shatrat
[12:56] <elyon225> Flannel: Ah.. I forgot that I just reinstalled Kubuntu and haven't removed the CD source yet.
[12:56] <shatrat> adamwest: you mean which wine?  which looks for the path to the executable.  The executable is in the systems /usr/bin directory with a bunch of other executables.  /home/adamwest/.wine is where the Program wines saves the Settings and User-Specific Data FOR wine
[12:56] <adamwest> umm ok
[12:56] <emo> manny thanks
[12:56] <adamwest> now for a different problem :P
[12:57] <shatrat> adamwest: so a different user would have their own .wine directory, but use the same wine executable
[12:57] <shatrat> so only the settings are duplicated
[12:57] <adamwest> ah ok shatrat
[12:57] <adamwest> umm moving on :P i can't log out from ubuntu or xubuntu... only from kubuntu D:
[12:57] <shatrat> adamwest: ctrl alt backspace.  Pro's use keyboards anyway
[12:57] <adamwest> i don't have xubuntu or kubuntu right now, but i remember the problem.
[12:57] <oFF-beAt> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" didn;t solve it
[12:58] <Atomiku> What is the iptables command to see the list of currently fowarded ports?
[12:58] <adamwest> shatrat: what do you mean?
[12:58] <adamwest> i can't log out to the gdm
[12:58] <tim167> i have a Dutch keyboard, whats my ISO 3166 code ?
[12:58] <shatrat> adamwest: control alt backspace will kill the X server and put you back at GDM
[12:58] <cafuego_> Atomiku: iptables -L --t nat -n -v --line-numbers
[12:58] <Atomiku> Thanks :D
[12:58] <adamwest> is it different from the logout menu thing?
[12:58] <shatrat> adamwest: but if the problem is just the log out button is missing you can right click the gnome-panel and add one
[12:58] <cafuego_> Atomiku: sorry, -t not --t
[12:59] <Atomiku> Okay :)
[12:59] <shatrat> adamwest: a little bit. I dont think the log out completely restarts X server so its probably 1-2 seconds quicker to perform, but its also 1-2 seconds quicker to just hit ctrl alt backspace so thats what i always do anyway
[12:59] <adamwest> shatrat: no, i meant i click the log out button and the menus disappear, but then the computer freezes... the keyboard won't respond and it won't go to the logins creen. only the mouse moves but won't respond to clicks either.
[12:59] <emo> I can't install the last version (Edgy) I've done everything that I know but didn't work :(
[12:59] <b14ck73425> can somebody tell me how to access my floppy with a serial cable
[01:00] <fghj> I know the keyword for a channel; how do I join that channel?
[01:00] <shatrat> adamwest: that sounds serious. No idea.
[01:00] <pbureau> goodgerster,  I am dissapointed, why non of these apps permit to access a network HDD (where I store my mp3's) ??
[01:00] <b14ck73425> use/join
[01:00] <adamwest> the thing is, i =can= restart and shut down. not log out :P
[01:00] <dabaR> fghj: try adding the keyword after the channel name
[01:00] <cafuego_> b14ck73425: You can't access a floppy with a serial cable.
[01:01] <emo> should be easier form the terminal however does't work so what can I do then ?
[01:01] <shatrat> adamwest: the problem must be somewhere in saving your settings while exiting, I think
[01:01] <b14ck73425> i meant laptop, i was thinking about something
[01:01] <b14ck73425> how do i access my laptop
[01:01] <b14ck73425> with a serial cable
[01:01] <adamwest> is there something in common where logging out to GNOME and XFCE, but not to KDE?
[01:01] <raecchi> Could anyone help me with scim? I've got it installed, and configured like my other, working computer... But when I go to click the panel icon, nothing comes up. Help?
[01:01] <cafuego_> b14ck73425: Do a google search for 'serial console'. You may need a boot parameter OR a custom kernel.
[01:01] <shatrat> adamwest: but that doesnt make sense either, cause it does that when shutting down as well.  No idea, donate computer to charity and take up basket-weaving.
[01:01] <administrator_> Is there a dvd plugin for totem movie player?
[01:01] <dabaR> adamwest: maybe both xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop use gdm.
[01:02] <raecchi> b14ck73425, Minicom! ^.^ Where are you having trouble?
[01:02] <adamwest> dabaR: have no idea. it didn't matter what was the gdm... i used kdm and it still didn't log out properly.
[01:02] <shatrat> administrator_: I think you need libdvdcss.
[01:02] <administrator_> with dvd reading
[01:02] <jonah1980_2> when a program crashes and only gives the error "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" is there a log somewhere i can open to get more info on what went wrong?
[01:02] <shatrat> !restrictedformats
[01:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <starry> Is there someway to undo an undate? I just updated my system, and now gnome does not display properly...
[01:02] <administrator_> thank you.
[01:03] <I-kido> Does anybody have sound problems after about 1 minute on this page?
[01:03] <I-kido> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjofgyOzb3Y
[01:03] <emo> any other thing that I can do apart from apt-dist update or gksu "update-manager -c" ?
[01:03] <shatrat> I-kido: does the sound go out of sync? You may need to install the latest flash plugin
[01:03] <shatrat> !flash|i-kido
[01:03] <ubotu> i-kido: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <I-kido> tnx shatrat
[01:03] <Flannel> !flash9 | I-kido
[01:03] <ubotu> I-kido: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:04] <I-kido> tnx Flannel
[01:04] <I-kido> ubotu stop PM'ming me
[01:04] <SkirK_WorKSpace> juano_, ?
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stop PM'ming me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <shatrat> ubuto anything
[01:04] <I-kido> lol
[01:04] <shatrat> !anything
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <shatrat> I love that
[01:05] <I-kido> :)
[01:05] <drx> why don't you get a GUI inside a XEN Linux client?
[01:05] <I-kido> shatrat watch this pls
[01:05] <I-kido> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjofgyOzb3Y
[01:05] <shatrat> if its goatse in any way shape or form...I will hunt you down
[01:05] <I-kido> lol
[01:05] <starry> how do I undo an update?
[01:05] <maddash> is it dead yet?
[01:05] <Dere1> hey, heres some good news and some bad news, i followed the instructions, and when i rebooted, no more jagged scroll!!but when i did verification comand thingy, it was still the old one so...i do not get it
[01:07] <b14ck73425> well i have an old laptop i am trying to access
[01:07] <b14ck73425> and i cant seem to get into it
[01:07] <Dere1> whatshould i do?
[01:07] <adamwest> ... weird clip, I-kido
[01:07] <adamwest> :P
[01:07] <I-kido> :)
[01:08] <shatrat> Dere1: what verification command? glxinfo | grep rendering?
[01:08] <maddash> ditto
[01:08] <Dere1> glxinfo
[01:08] <adamwest> i'd prefer it being joyful and have more windows vista errors :P
[01:08] <I-kido> lol adamwest
[01:08] <I-kido> ihihih
[01:08] <shatrat> does it say Direct Rendering: yes? If so breathe a sigh of relief and make a mental note to buy nvidia next time.
[01:09] <raecchi> Could anyone help me with scim? I've got it installed, and configured like my other, working computer... But when I go to click the panel icon, nothing comes up. Help?
[01:09] <graft__> raecchi: what does the panel icon link to?
[01:09] <sdac221x> hi,  screen brightness buttons on my T60 don
[01:10] <sdac221x> hi,  screen brightness buttons on my T60 don't work even after installing ATI x1300 drivers.  any clue how to fix this ?
[01:10] <Dere1> sdac221x, do you have t60??
[01:10] <Dere1> Ibm thinkpad??
[01:10] <briancann> trying to get a non terrifying graphical boot loader as the grub dos and no mouse cursor selection is a bit annoying
[01:10] <sdac221x> ye
[01:10] <b14ck73425> how do i use minicom
[01:10] <briancann> !bum
[01:10] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:10] <Dere1> did you have recovery disk?
[01:11] <sdac221x> no
[01:11] <raecchi> graft__, It's supposed to pop up a menu to let me choose my input method.
[01:11] <Dere1> darn
[01:11] <sdac221x> did u lose the servide partition
[01:11] <Dere1> ya lol
[01:11] <sdac221x> service
[01:11] <shatrat> briancann: There are themes and ways to make Grub look prettier, but its no scarier than the BIOS screen or anything.
[01:11] <I-kido> I'm trying to delete empty directories from gconf-editor.  Still no luck. Anybody who can help me, I'll wash ur car...
[01:12] <graft__> raecchi: um, but the icon has some command associated, yes?
[01:12] <sdac221x> i think u can order a cd from ibm,  might have to pay though
[01:12] <briancann> shatrat: where do i get those
[01:12] <Dere1> its free, but i was wondering if anyone had it because i have been trying to get it for like 2.5 weeks now, and they like..are having issues with stuff
[01:12] <Dere1> the said the would fedex it..
[01:12] <raecchi> graft__, *shrugs* Very well could. I don't have the source handy.
[01:13] <Dere1> never happend
[01:13] <briancann> shatrat: thx bye the way
[01:13] <graft__> raecchi: ah i see, it's a systray thingy...
[01:13] <shatrat> briancann: I saw a how-to on the ubuntuforums.org I think, you could try searching there.
[01:13] <raecchi> graft__, Ah! Yes! Sorry.
[01:14] <I-kido> lol
[01:14] <Dere1> shatrat: no, it says "no" direct rendering
[01:14] <raecchi> graft__, I've been running scim's various parts in terminals, /trying/ to get some error message... But as yet, none have been forthcoming
[01:14] <I-kido> SkirK_WorKSpace va a ninna !
[01:15] <shatrat> Dere1: Then you still have a problem.  I got rid of my ATI card a while back so I am not sure which method you are using or which how-to would be best.
[01:15] <SkirK_WorKSpace> yes?
[01:15] <camdenb> what's kickin, ninjas?
[01:15] <kyl1> Hey people
[01:16] <emo> kyl1: hi man
[01:16] <Dere1> ya, i tryed using the second one on page
[01:16] <josh_> anyone familiar with vim?
[01:16] <kyl1> So, Nautilus keeps quitting unexpectedly
[01:16] <kyl1> What shal I do?!
[01:16] <kyl1> shall*
[01:16] <Dere1> "Install from Ubuntu repositories (easier)"
[01:16] <josh_> i need to know how to do a global replace
[01:16] <camdenb> my poor laptop is dying. I just spent the day installing ubuntu from my HD. thankfully there was a method :D
[01:16] <Otter> How do I create virtual interfaces in Ubntu? I already have LO which has 127.0.0.1 boudn to it.. I want to create  a loopback 1 interface
[01:16] <wilee85> Stormx2, I'm here
[01:16] <Xenguy> josh_: sure
[01:16] <josh_> i want all instances of "." to turn into " "
[01:17] <graft> raecchi: hrm, i'm probably not in the best position to debug this, being in KDE
[01:17] <juano_> does anyone know why vi and vim seems that it doesnt respond good to the keyboard
[01:17] <graft> josh_: % s/\.\ /g
[01:17] <kyl1> Josh, there is a program to do that.
[01:17] <josh_> basically i want to omit all the periods in an entire file
[01:17] <juano_> i cant seem to use it to edit files properly, i always need to use kate and gedit
[01:17] <kyl1> Are you using just regular Ubuntu?
[01:17] <graft> josh_: err, sorry, % s/\./\ /g
[01:17] <raecchi> graft, Very true. I think scim works in kde... But poorly. No use trying to debug two problems.
[01:17] <camdenb> but, there's a problem. I cannibalized my swap partition to use as install space. now my running system has no swap space.
[01:17] <sdac221x> anyone know how to play midi in xubuntu ?  i downloaded "playmidi" from synaptic but it doesnt work
[01:17] <camdenb> is anybody willing to give me a hand w/ swap setup?
[01:18] <Xenguy> josh_: do this :%s!\.! !g
[01:18] <josh_> \. not found
[01:18] <kyl1> Use the swap setup from your setup CD.
[01:18] <Stormx2> wilee85: I'm getting there slowly...
[01:18] <patrick_> !ntfs
[01:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:18] <camdenb> cd-rom drive does not work.
[01:18] <sdac221x> it says:  open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[01:18] <kyl1> Oh, that sucks.
[01:18] <graft> juano_: vi has a bit of a learning curve... you have to get used to the way it works, with 'edit mode' and 'command mode', etc.
[01:18] <kyl1> Have mine.
[01:18] <josh_> pattern not found
[01:19] <SamArthurAllen> dude, vi kicks ass
[01:19] <graft> josh_: err, you did that as a command, yes, not a sequence of keystrokes?
[01:19] <Xenguy> josh_: as a test you can search for the string you want to replace:  /   <-- first this, then do --> \.
[01:19] <juano_> graft: yes, well it worked fine on fedora core, here it seems to be quite a little different
[01:19] <Xenguy> josh_: and press Enter
[01:19] <camdenb> I used cfdisk to set a part. to linux swap, and mkswap to format it swap, but I cannot seem to get swapon to mount it.
[01:19] <graft> juano_: sure it's vim you're running?
[01:19] <nrdb> I am trying to compile blender, it says I am missing GL/gl.h, I believe this is to do with opengl, does any know which package I need to install to get this file ?
[01:19] <gberardi> If I want to have a set of commands automatically run at startup, what would be the easiest way to do so?  I have already written a script, but it needs root access to run correctly.
[01:20] <juano_> graft: vi , i mean
[01:20] <josh_> i did this from command :%s!\.! !g
[01:20] <juano_> graft: vim seems fine.. let me check
[01:20] <elyon225> cafuego: Okay, I installed the card and restarted... everything is  VERY  slow, graphically speaking.  Also, when trying to follow the info on installing nvidia drivers on the website, I can't run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" because it says I don't have the drivers installed (but I have already installed nvidia-glx)
[01:20] <emo> kyl1: I've problem to install Edgy like if I type dist-update or gksudo "update-manager -c" nothing come up any idea ?
[01:20] <josh_> and :%s/\./\ /g
[01:20] <kyl1> Uh
[01:20] <kyl1> Try...
[01:20] <josh_> niether worked... they just delete the entire file
[01:20] <graft> josh_: oughta work...
[01:20] <Dere1> sdac221x: i sent you an im
[01:20] <josh_> or give error but unknown pattern
[01:20] <kyl1> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <maddash> `man touch`. lmao.
[01:20] <Skillet> How can I reposition the screen in Ubuntu?
[01:20] <Xenguy> josh_:  hrm, try this instead?   :%s!.! !g
[01:20] <Skillet> It's a bit off to the right in Ubuntu, but dead center in windarz
[01:20] <emo> kyl1: I did so..
[01:20] <sholden> What would be the right resolution to use for a 720p monitor?  none of the resolutions listed seem to be correct, so I guess I'll have to manually edit xorg.conf.  Anyone know?
[01:21] <Xenguy> josh_: if something goes wrong, just use 'u' to undo
[01:21] <graft> Xenguy: that definitely won't work, . matches anything
[01:21] <SkirK_WorKSpace> juano_, :D
[01:21] <SkirK_WorKSpace> did u read dialog window?
[01:21] <Xenguy> graft: yeah, I know that, but grasping at straws now :-)
[01:21] <josh_> that deletes the whole file too
[01:21] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: hi
[01:21] <SkirK_WorKSpace> i have fix the problem...
[01:21] <emo> kyl1: however didn't work..
[01:21] <graft> but that line you posted worked for me, josh_
[01:21] <SkirK_WorKSpace> ^^
[01:21] <kyl1> Hmmm....
[01:21] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: really what was it finally?
[01:21] <Kazero> Ok, im on gnome-look.org and I want to get a new theme for the main bar at the top. I use beryl for the window manager, its just the top bar I want to change. What am I looking for?
[01:21] <kyl1> What is the error?
[01:21] <josh_> what line graft?
[01:21] <Xenguy> josh_: u
[01:21] <shatrat> sholden: 720p is 1440x720 I believe, one sec Ill look it up
[01:21] <juano_> graft: vim works fine
[01:21] <SkirK_WorKSpace> the partition on menu.lst was wrong
[01:21] <graft> 19:15 < josh_> and :%s/\./\ /g
[01:21] <graft> 19:15 < josh_> and :%s/\./\ /g
[01:21] <sholden> thanks shatrat
[01:21] <graft> 19:15 < josh_> and :%s/\./\ /g
[01:21] <graft> 19:15 < josh_> and :%s/\./\ /g
[01:21] <emo> kyl1: the output you mean ?
[01:21] <graft> argh
[01:22] <graft> sorry, folks
[01:22] <kyl1> YEs
[01:22] <juano_> graft: good enough :-), didnt give vim a try lately
[01:22] <Xenguy> josh_: yeah, I believe my first suggestion was correct (not actually tested tho)
[01:22] <Morydd> anyone know why I'd be getting "Cannot load session extension" when trying to run phpmyadmin in dapper?
[01:22] <josh_> pattern not found
[01:22] <shatrat> sholden: nvm, its 1280x720
[01:22] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: then it was your grub
[01:22] <josh_> there are varying numbers of periods
[01:22] <SkirK_WorKSpace> yes
[01:22] <SkirK_WorKSpace> lol
[01:22] <josh_> some are .. others are ......
[01:22] <lloyd> anyone know why firefox would shut down when trying to goto a secure website?
[01:22] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: ahh..
[01:22] <SkirK_WorKSpace> poor devilsadvocate ^^
[01:22] <josh_> and all inbetween
[01:22] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: i thought you had a kernel issue
[01:22] <SkirK_WorKSpace> yep
[01:22] <SamArthurAllen> josh: you want ALL periods gone?
[01:22] <kyl1> Use Konquerer.
[01:22] <SkirK_WorKSpace> all right
[01:22] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: sounded like it
[01:22] <graft> josh_: oughta work anyway...
[01:23] <emo> kyl1: tells me that my version is new but isn't because I have dapper drake instead..
[01:23] <josh_> yes, ALL periods gone... i only want the numbers left
[01:23] <SkirK_WorKSpace> nuuu :P
[01:23] <kyl1> That's odd.
[01:23] <kyl1> Uh...
[01:23] <kyl1> Lemme think on this...
[01:23] <graft> josh_: you're using vim?
[01:23] <josh_> yes
[01:23] <Kazero> Anyone? Someone point me to a tutorial for changing the top bar of gnome?
[01:23] <Xenguy> josh_: maybe what you think are periods, are not actually periods :-)
[01:23] <SamArthurAllen> Josh: vi is a pain when it comes to special chars: Alternative method: do a search by using / and then enter "." (without quotes, ofcourse) and hit enter, when it finds any occurences of "." hit "r" (lower-case), and then space. To keep doing it, hit "." to repeat the same replace until all "." have gone.
[01:23] <kyl1> Did you do the "sudo apt-get update"
[01:23] <SkirK_WorKSpace> juano_, im lucky, it was a small problem...
[01:23] <kyl1> thing?
[01:23] <SkirK_WorKSpace> :D
[01:24] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: funny you had this problem, i was having this problem like 12 hours ago
[01:24] <josh_> what else could they be xen?
[01:24] <emo> kyl1: long time ago I put xubuntu I removed but I think that I din't remove properly...
[01:24] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: i overrided mbr with ntldr lol, so i had to reinstall grub from live cd
[01:24] <SkirK_WorKSpace> juano_, and you re.install or fix?
[01:24] <kyl1> Ahh this is the thing.
[01:24] <SkirK_WorKSpace> asd
[01:24] <I-kido> Kazero PM me
[01:24] <SkirK_WorKSpace> yes
[01:24] <emo> kyl1: so what can I do then ?
[01:24] <kyl1> I did the same thing. There actually is no way to repair it.
[01:24] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: fix, i got help from genii in #kubuntu hehe
[01:24] <graft> josh_: does that sub line work for things other than periods?
[01:25] <kyl1> Just yesterday, actually.
[01:25] <SkirK_WorKSpace> hehehehehehe
[01:25] <josh_> yes
[01:25] <kyl1> My laptop battery died while updating, and totally corrupted the whole updater system.
[01:25] <kyl1> So, it wouldn't work.
[01:25] <emo> kyl1: so what you mean I have to put fresh copy ?!
[01:25] <elyon225> Okay, I my nvidia card and restarted... everything is  VERY  slow, graphically speaking.  Also, when trying to follow the info on installing nvidia drivers on the website, I can't run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" because it says I don't have the drivers installed (but I have already installed nvidia-glx)
[01:25] <SkirK_WorKSpace> juano_, I must offer a beer to devilsadvocate ^^
[01:25] <SkirK_WorKSpace> :D
[01:25] <kyl1> Unfortunately, yes.
[01:26] <Xenguy> josh_: sometimes I get weird characters from windows users, so I do 'V' to highlight a string, then 'yank' it with 'y', then do the substition something like these keystrokes:  :%s/Ctrl-R"/newstring/g
[01:26] <kyl1> Well...
[01:26] <Xenguy> josh_: if that makes sense
[01:26] <juano_> elyon225: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and under the video section check to see that Driver is in "nvidia" and not in "nv"
[01:26] <emo> kyl1: I can't I have too many files..
[01:26] <kyl1> See if you can't get a different DE, like Xfce, or KDE or something, and try updating via that.
[01:26] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: and me to genii
[01:26] <juano_> SkirK_WorKSpace: lol
[01:26] <kyl1> Back them up off line.
[01:26] <josh_> thats odd.... the periods dont show up in vim but they do in kate
[01:26] <josh_> oh well i dont care, they are gone
[01:26] <emo> kyl1: is too much hastle seriously...
[01:27] <kyl1> Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.
[01:27] <kyl1> Uh
[01:27] <juano_> josh_: same happens to me with kate
[01:27] <kyl1> sudo apt-get update -f
[01:27] <juano_> josh_: its like a bug or something
[01:27] <kyl1> Try that.
[01:27] <josh_> thanks for the help guys
[01:27] <kyl1> The "-f" indicator tells to fix the broken packages.
[01:27] <Xenguy> josh_: there's more than one way to do it (TMTOWTDI)  :-)
[01:27] <emo> kyl1: let see.
[01:27] <juano_> josh_: periods appear for no reason with spaces, but then they are gone after typing
[01:28] <Thug-N-Me> any plugins installed for mozilla will be available for opera too ?
[01:28] <kyl1> Possibly.
[01:28] <graft> josh_: um.. kate uses . to indicate trailing spaces
[01:28] <emo> kyl1: the package list had been read that's all..
[01:29] <kyl1> So, that doesn't say there is any errors?
[01:29] <josh_> oh thats why?
[01:29] <juano_> graft: really? hehe, i thought it was just messed up lol
[01:29] <emo> kyl1: no errors whatsoever..
[01:29] <josh_> stupid girl....
[01:29] <kyl1> Hrm
[01:29] <josh_> thats why i like vim :P
[01:29] <kyl1> That's interesting.
[01:30] <emo> kyl1: but show just d drake packages..
[01:30] <animimotus> hi
[01:30] <kyl1> and the apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt work?
[01:30] <animimotus> in a tar gzip I want to backup to another disk all file and directory hidden in my home :  tar -cvzf home.tar.gz  ~/.* /media/backupdisk       doesn't work
[01:30] <graft> or, something that looks a lot like a . anyway
[01:30] <graft> you can disable that option
[01:30] <emo> kyl1: doesn't..
[01:30] <adamwest> guys, my CTRL-ALT-SPACEBAR shortcut doesn't work D:
[01:31] <kyl1> Pft...
[01:31] <graft> under settings/configure kate/editing/show tabulators
[01:31] <kyl1> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:31] <shatrat> adamwest: what does ctrl alt spacebar do?
[01:31] <adamwest> ...quit the X?
[01:31] <shatrat> adamwest: ctrl alt backspace does that ^^
[01:31] <Dere1> how do i get to the desktop directory in console
[01:31] <adamwest> oh lol
[01:31] <adamwest> thanks :D
[01:31] <shatrat> any time
[01:32] <Aurvandill> What is a good "docking" program?
[01:32] <Xenguy> Dere1: cd ~/Desktop  ?
[01:32] <animimotus> someone ?
[01:32] <Xenguy> Dere1: (from memory)
[01:32] <Dere1> ?
[01:32] <graft> animimotus: what are you trying to do, create a tarball on /media/backupdisk?
[01:32] <emo> kyl1: man the output was huge just gonna show the end  This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers
[01:33] <Dere1> ok, thx it worked
[01:33] <kyl1> HAHAHAHA
[01:33] <kyl1> Ya know what that is?
[01:33] <I-kido> what
[01:33] <animimotus> graft: yes
[01:33] <graft> animimotus: try: tar -cvzf /media/backupdisk/home.tar.gz <stuff you want to tar up>
[01:33] <kyl1> It's a thing the programmers put in there.
[01:33] <Xenguy> Dere1: yw
[01:33] <kyl1> But, I will say, you shouldn't have gotten that error.
[01:33] <shatrat> try apt-get moo
[01:33] <emo> kyl1: :(
[01:33] <graft> heh
[01:34] <shatrat> Thats, right. Moo.
[01:34] <emo> shatrat: not funny..:)
[01:34] <shatrat> Everyone loves cows.
[01:34] <shatrat> Except people who walk barefoot in meadows.
[01:35] <graft> if you walk barefoot in meadows you can't be uptight about a few cowpies
[01:35] <shatrat> hippies are uptight about most everything but hygeine
[01:35] <thomasmc> hello guys, i'm having a problem with gnome-settings daemon, its not loading on login.
[01:35] <graft> goo... i'm still banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, or else this obviously belongs there
[01:35] <animimotus> graft: thx, I seems works :)
[01:35] <bcstv> After a recent update I am no longer able to open windows shares in nautilus. Any idea what update may have a caused this change?
[01:35] <emo> shatrat: any clue what I have to do...?
[01:36] <kyl1> Well, my Nautilus is f***ed.
[01:36] <shatrat> emo: I wasnt really following your problem.  What was up with apt?
[01:36] <kyl1> Quits unexpectedly.
[01:36] <shatrat> I was mostly daydreaming about cows
[01:36] <kyl1> Haha
[01:36] <kyl1> Moo moo juice
[01:36] <LjL> graft: ?
[01:36] <kidstar64> hello, i need to gain permissions to all the files on my computer, how can i do this?
[01:36] <graft> LjL: ?
[01:37] <emo> shatrat: fist of all insn't nothing to do with moo alringth :)
[01:37] <shatrat> kidstar64: I disagree.
[01:37] <shatrat> emo: Im not sure Ill be interested if there is no moo...but continue
[01:37] <Someone> i have a problem with Ipod functionality within media players such as Amarok, each song will play briefly  then skip to the next, any ideas whats up?
[01:37] <kidstar64> i need to get permissions to write to the drives and delete from the drives
[01:37] <emo> shatrat: so I have d. drake but I can update for Edgy
[01:37] <thomasmc> can somebody help me fix my problem with gnome settings daemon not loading on login?
[01:37] <shatrat> kidstar64: what drivers?  Theres a lot of stuff that you shouldnt have write access to as a normal user.
[01:37] <LjL> graft: i didn't get the walking barefoot and the -offtopic ban thing
[01:37] <emo> shatrat:cannot
[01:38] <adamwest> ctrl-alt-backspace didn't get me to gdm D:
[01:38] <shatrat> *drives I mean
[01:38] <kidstar64> no drives, ie a c: drive
[01:38] <shatrat> emo: what method are you using? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:38] <shatrat> kidstar64: they arent labeled that way in linux.  What drives/partitions do you have? as in physical and sizes
[01:38] <shatrat> no letters or I begin throwing trout
[01:39] <emo> shatrat:I did all of them to be  honest...even moo :)
[01:39] <graft> LjL: oh... um, i meant, that conversation clearly belonged on -offtopic, but i got banned from there, so i can't have this conversation there :P
[01:39] <adamwest> shatrat, ctrl-alt-backspace did exactly the same as logging out normally dud
[01:39] <thomasmc> then leave to some random channel.
[01:39] <kidstar64> i have a 200 gb, one partition, a 10gb lunix partition labeled sda3 and the windows partition 20 gb sda2
[01:39] <adamwest> did
[01:39] <shatrat> emo: I didnt use dapper, I used SuSE for years before edgy so Im not familiar with the ugprade process.  How about back up your /home and reformat the whole shebang?
[01:39] <shatrat> adamwest: im like a prophet
[01:39] <LjL> graft: i might have missed it but i don't see you banned
[01:40] <shatrat> kidstar64: what do you want access to? The 200gb partition?
[01:40] <graft> 19:35 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned)
[01:40] <kidstar64> the windows
[01:40] <emo> shatrat:too much files man.
[01:40] <kidstar64> partition
[01:40] <yellow> shatrat, get rdiff-backup
[01:40] <shatrat> kidstar64: You need to mount it, hold on while I find a link to the windows partition mounting thingy
[01:40] <pipak> LjL: it seems i might have the answer; generic-ide is loaded before piix module. Now my question is how does order of module loading work on ubuntu?
[01:40] <kidstar64> its on my desktop
[01:40] <emo> shatrat:will be I nightmare...
[01:40] <adamwest> shatrat: what? :P
[01:41] <LjL> graft: then i suppose i've missed it. still anyway, keep in mind you're not supposed to have offtopic discussions in here just because you can't join offtopic ;)
[01:41] <shatrat> emo: Remember, if you can't backup your stuff you've already lost half the battle. Or something.
[01:41] <emo> shatrat:will be a nightmare..I mean
[01:41] <yellow> then just rdiff-backup path/to/home /path/to/backup/folder
[01:41] <shatrat> just asking for trauma
[01:41] <graft> LjL: yeah, that's why i stopped :P
[01:41] <thomasmc> kidstar64: add it to /etc/fstab
[01:41] <Someone> anyone know why mp3's skip when streaming from my ipod? tried in many app's, same thing.. any ideas?
[01:41] <kyl1> Wurd
[01:41] <kidstar64> add what?
[01:41] <deep> using the bash scripting, can i add something to a string? like "hello" + " " + "world" ?
[01:41] <kyl1> Because it's usb1.1
[01:42] <graft> usb1.1 ought to handle 128kbps
[01:42] <kyl1> It ought to.
[01:42] <kyl1> Nevem
[01:42] <kyl1> I dunno.
[01:42] <Someone> hmm its usb 2.0 anyway, as far as i'm aware
[01:42] <kyl1> It was  just the first thing that came to mind.
[01:42] <shatrat> kidstar64: Check this out, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Mount_NTFS_volumes_with_write_support
[01:42] <kyl1> Yeah. over 400mb's
[01:42] <emo> shatrat:because is too much..will be a lots of cds
[01:43] <shatrat> emo: If your stuff isnt backed up youmight not want to upgrade then.  I hear the dapper -> edgy upgrade is buggy for a lot of people
[01:43] <kidstar64> k, will trty
[01:43] <kidstar64> try*
[01:43] <thomasmc> shatrat: don't follow that guide, ntfs write support is buggy.
[01:43] <shatrat> kidstar64: Its not that hard really, good luck.
[01:43] <LjL> pipak: hmm i don't quite know, but maybe you can blacklist the offending module and load it later - if using modprobe or insmod will override the blacklist, which i don't know
[01:44] <shatrat> thomasmc: I haven't had a problem with it, but mounting read only would probably be safer
[01:44] <shatrat> I live on the edge.
[01:44] <thomasmc> kidstar64: do you need to write to the drive? or just listen to the music files etc. you have on there.
[01:44] <kidstar64> write and delete
[01:44] <thomasmc> kidstar64: its not stable.
[01:44] <mrpurple> hi .. just installed ubuntu ... and new to linux ..
[01:44] <Someone> the player can read the mp3 files just fine, its not a filesystem problem. its just each song will skip to the next after playing for a second or so
[01:44] <shatrat> mrpurple: Hi, me too.
[01:44] <thomasmc> kidstar64: you should set up a fat32 partition that you can share between windows and linux (or just get rid of windows)
[01:44] <emo> shatrat:well soon or later they will sort it out and when the other version came will be more difficult
[01:44] <riotkittie> what's not stable ?
[01:45] <animimotus> graft: tar -cvzf /media/backup/home.tar.gz  ~/.*    <---------- include ./Desktop and all directory not hidden too
[01:45] <thomasmc> riotkittie: ntfs write support.
[01:45] <mrpurple> what means ... e: dynamic mmap ran out of room ?????
[01:45] <animimotus> ~/Desktop
[01:45] <nothlit> ntfs-3g is pretty good
[01:45] <mrpurple> hi shatrat
[01:45] <riotkittie> thomasmc: ehhh.
[01:45] <shatrat> kidstar64: actually you can set up an ext3 partition and use fs-driver.org in windows to read it like I do. works better than ntfs for linux probably
[01:45] <nothlit> and theres always captive
[01:46] <shatrat> emo: do you have ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed? I read somewhere that not having the full metapackage for your distro can cause problems with the upgrade.
[01:46] <mrpurple> hi
[01:46] <graft> animimotus: just make it ~/, and it oughta do it
[01:46] <kidstar64> mitch@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i libfuse2_*.deb fuse-utils_*.deb ntfsprogs_*.deb libntfs8_*.deb
[01:46] <kidstar64> dpkg: error processing libfuse2_*.deb (--install):
[01:46] <kidstar64>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:46] <kidstar64> dpkg: error processing fuse-utils_*.deb (--install):
[01:46] <kidstar64>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:46] <kidstar64> dpkg: error processing ntfsprogs_*.deb (--install):
[01:46] <kidstar64>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:46] <kidstar64> dpkg: error processing libntfs8_*.deb (--install):
[01:46] <kidstar64>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:46] <kidstar64> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:46] <kidstar64>  libfuse2_*.deb
[01:46] <kitche> !paste
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:46] <kidstar64>  fuse-utils_*.deb
[01:46] <riotkittie> pastebin is your friend, dude.
[01:46] <kidstar64>  ntfsprogs_*.deb
[01:46] <kidstar64>  libntfs8_*.deb
[01:46] <shatrat> mrpurple: I think that means out of memory
[01:46] <adamwest> whether
[01:47] <mrpurple> shatrat : and how can i fix it ??
[01:47] <animimotus> graft: only hidden files so ?
[01:47] <shatrat> mrpurple: what program is it?
[01:47] <mrpurple> i'm tryng to install alien
[01:48] <LjL> (bad idea)
[01:48] <graft> animimotus: you only want hidden files? or what?
[01:48] <shatrat> mrpurple: im not familiar with alien.
[01:48] <nothlit> alien is only something that should be used as an absolute last resort
[01:48] <nothlit> !info alien
[01:48] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[01:48] <maddash> LjL: your banning him, or his pasting it?
[01:48] <mrpurple> nothilt .. i'm cannot install skype ..
[01:48] <animimotus> graft: yes, only configuration files
[01:48] <nothlit> !skype
[01:48] <mrpurple> i tryed all ..
[01:48] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:48] <LjL> maddash: it was a mute. i muted him for 33 seconds
[01:49] <LjL> but he left in the meanwhile
[01:49] <graft> animimotus: um, so ~/.[A-Za-z] * should do it
[01:49] <shifteh> hey
[01:49] <maddash> ljl: maybe you should've /msg'ed him first
[01:49] <shifteh> what is install in oem mode ?
[01:49] <Jbirk> How do I install VMWARE?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> maddash: why he wouldnt have stopped the buffer was still going
[01:49] <shatrat> Jbirk: did you try searching for it in synaptic?
[01:50] <Jbirk> no
[01:50] <juano_> Jbirk: vmware workstation or player?
[01:50] <maddash> gnomefreak: to let him know what was wrong
[01:50] <Jbirk> workstation or server
[01:50] <nothlit> shifteh, oem mode is for people who install systems for others, but leave it unconfigured for them
[01:50] <LjL> maddash: or maybe not, since he was still pasting.
[01:50] <shatrat> Jbirk: I think it's in the multiverse or universe repos
[01:50] <Jbirk> the free one
[01:50] <maddash> ljl, gnomefreak: to let him know what was wrong
[01:50] <Jbirk> okay
[01:50] <LjL> maddash: #ubuntu-ops would be a much better place to ask anyway
[01:50] <LjL> maddash: what makes you think i didn't?
[01:50] <thomasmc> !vmware-player
[01:50] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[01:50] <maddash> LjL: ask...?
[01:50] <Morydd> anyone know why I'd be getting "Cannot load session extension" when trying to run phpmyadmin in dapper?
[01:50] <juano_> Jbirk: well i got the package from a torrent, you can get it from www.vmware.com by filling out a form i think
[01:50] <maddash> LjL: oh.
[01:50] <Jbirk> How do I search
[01:50] <LjL> maddash: to talk about operator issues
[01:51] <Jbirk> How do I search the repo?
[01:51] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jbirk about packages | jbirk, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:51] <nothlit> Jbirk, you need to install it from vmware.com you'll need the build-essential package and linux headers
[01:51] <maddash> LjL: oh, your asking ME to /join #ubuntu-ops
[01:51] <LjL> maddash: yep
[01:51] <luddite> hi all
[01:51] <nothlit> Jbirk, you'll also need a license key from vmware, which is free
[01:51] <shatrat> !itsatrap
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itsatrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <mrpurple> what means .. E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:52] <shatrat> mrpurple: Do you already have one package manager or update manager open?
[01:52] <nothlit> mrpurple, it probably means you had another package operation going
[01:53] <mrpurple> no ..
[01:53] <metal03> Could anyone that knows about SAMBA log into the #samba channel and help me?
[01:53] <graft> metal03: or you could ask here
[01:53] <mrpurple> but before i did some copy and paste .. of a list
[01:53] <Jbirk> how do I install build essential
[01:53] <Jbirk> and headers?
[01:53] <nothlit> !b-e
[01:53] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:53] <riotkittie> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:53] <gnomefreak> Jbirk: headers for what. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:53] <shifteh> so do i install it in oem mode or text mode?
[01:54] <Jbirk> okay
[01:54] <nothlit> !headers
[01:54] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[01:54] <Jbirk> I want the headers for vmware
[01:54] <thomasmc> !gnome-settings-daemon
[01:54] <metal03> graft : Been told to keep it for Ubuntu questions before...  I just didn't want to get yelled at again...  ;)
[01:54] <graft> i think that qualifies...
[01:54] <graft> unless you're asking about samba on FC6 or some such
[01:55] <metal03> Well, I'm having a hard time accessing a shared folder on my roomate's computer runing windowsXP!  I'm using Ubuntu edgy64 and when I go to Places > Network Servers I get two options : mshome and domain_crchul...  the mshome is sometimes accessible and sometimes it's juste a "file type" and cannot be openned like a folder.  I can access the domain_crchul icon and get an icon named CXPS09EDEMER that when I try to acces asks me for 
[01:55] <mrpurple> i have some repositories givin some errors .. there is a way to delete all those ?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Jbirk: kernel headers i believe
[01:55] <animimotus> graft: the right tar now, thx :)
[01:55] <metal03> And is it normal that I can sometimes access the "mshome" icon and sometimes not?
[01:55] <Jbirk> build essentials installed
[01:55] <Jbirk> I executed
[01:55] <Jbirk> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:55] <LjL> !paste | mrpurple
[01:55] <ubotu> mrpurple: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:55] <Jbirk> as well
[01:55] <Jbirk> ikt is installing those
[01:55] <nothlit> mrpurple, you can comment out any additional repositories you may have had
[01:55] <Jbirk> whatever they are
[01:55] <shatrat> metal03: when you cna sometimes not, just hit F5 to refresh.  At least, it !worksforme
[01:55] <LjL> mrpurple: what repositories (paste your sources.list) and what errors
[01:55] <Jbirk> done
[01:55] <maddash> is there a non-gnome equivalent of file-roller?
[01:55] <Jbirk> do I need to restart?
[01:56] <LjL> !enter | Jbirk
[01:56] <ubotu> Jbirk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:56] <shatrat> Jbirk: nope
[01:56] <LjL> maddash: KDE has Ark
[01:56] <nothlit> Jbirk, theyre information to help compile things for the kernel
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Jbirk: sudo apt-get install vmware-player (no compiling needed)
[01:56] <kitche> maddash, if your using kde there is ark
[01:56] <Jbirk> I don't want the player
[01:56] <Jbirk> I want the server
[01:56] <nothlit> gnomefreak, he wants server/workstation
[01:56] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:56] <LjL> Jbirk: why though?
[01:56] <animimotus> graft: arf the tar.gz is empty ^^
[01:56] <maddash> kitche, LjL: nothing else besides those two?
[01:56] <nothlit> Jbirk, now go to vmware.com and register for a key, and download the server package and run the install script with sudo
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Jbirk: your kernel headers is what your looking for i believe
[01:56] <graft> animimotus: what was the line you used?
[01:57] <Jbirk> Excellent
[01:57] <kitche> man it's so hard for me to parse xchat I need to change the colors of it
[01:57] <animimotus> graf tar -cvzf /media/backup/home.tar.gz  ~/.[A-Za-z] *
[01:57] <nothlit> gnomefreak, he's already added that and b-e
[01:57] <animimotus> graft
[01:57] <LjL> !xarchiver | maddash
[01:57] <pipak> LjL: that was the problem, removing ide-core, changing piix's position and update-initramfs did the trick
[01:57] <ubotu> xarchiver: GTK frontend for most used compression formats. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 684 kB
[01:57] <gnomefreak> nothlit: he was just looking for them i thought
[01:57] <graft> animimotus: and ls -l /media/backup/home.tar.gz says what?
[01:57] <LjL> pipak: cool but how did you change its position?
[01:58] <SentineLxx> Hi there, I'm in need of some desperate help
[01:58] <mrpurple> my repository http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2930/
[01:58] <nothlit> LjL, the server/workstation lets you edit virtual machines and create them
[01:58] <Flannel> !ask | SentineLxx
[01:58] <ubotu> SentineLxx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:58] <SentineLxx> I just uninstalled sound drivers, and it looks like it has uninstalled gnome, all I get when it boots up is a command prompt log-in
[01:58] <adamonline45> How do I load grub to a boot partition on a new server install?
[01:58] <nothlit> !grub | adamonline45
[01:58] <ubotu> adamonline45: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:58] <LjL> !xarchive | maddash, there's also this, appears to support more formats than xarchiver, read the description
[01:58] <gnomefreak> SentineLxx: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <ubotu> xarchive: GTK frontend for most used compression tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8.6+debian-2 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 248 kB
[01:58] <shatrat> SentineLxx: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <shatrat> slow...
[01:58] <adamonline45> nothlit: ahh, I remember seeing that now thanks ;)
[01:59] <maddash> LjL: thanks!
[01:59] <SentineLxx> Many thanks! :D
[01:59] <animimotus> graft: sorry, it's ok, I had to refresh konqueror ^^
[01:59] <nothlit> LjL, which one is the one for xfce?
[01:59] <LjL> nothlit: true but i never found that much of a show-stopper given there's things such as www.easyvmx.com - also there is VirtualBox now
[01:59] <pipak> LjL: looks like modules are loaded sequencially from the list /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[01:59] <LjL> nothlit: of the archivers? no idea
[01:59] <mrpurple> my errors ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2931/
[01:59] <LjL> pipak: good to know, thanks
[01:59] <maddash> nothlit: I think you can use any of them with xfce
[01:59] <pipak> LjL: you're welcome, thanks for the help :)
[02:00] <nothlit> LjL, ahh, but the server lets you do things like usb devices and direct access to drives and whatnot
[02:00] <adamonline45> !LAMP
[02:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:00] <shifteh> i have a ntfs partition i want to use to install how do i select that partition ?
[02:00] <nothlit> shifteh, you can't install ubuntu to a ntfs partition without running beta software
[02:00] <LjL> mrpurple, that looks like a horrible mess. i'm not sure i'm able to help you with that. do you have any free HD space left?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> nothlit: xarchiver is installed with xubuntu
[02:01] <mrpurple> sure .. ljl ..
[02:01] <nothlit> gnomefreak, ah, thanks
[02:01] <shifteh> [09:00]  <nothlit> shifteh, you can't install ubuntu to a ntfs partition without running beta software <--- can i format it to some other fs?
[02:01] <aftaylor2> anyone switch to ubuntu from slackware or gentoo? If so I would like to hear your thoughts. Im installing kubuntu now to test it out.. and d/ling the newest release of ubuntu
[02:01] <gnomefreak> nothlit: yw
[02:01] <graft> mrpurple: what's your cache limit set to now?
[02:01] <shifteh> nothlit : Like fat32 ?
[02:01] <nothlit> shifteh, the livecd will help you shrink/partition things
[02:01] <shatrat> shifteh: use ext3
[02:01] <LjL> mrpurple: and you have a swap partition, too? it seems to be complaining that it's out of memory or somesuch
[02:02] <mrpurple> graft : how see it
[02:02] <mrpurple> ?
[02:02] <shifteh> !install
[02:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:02] <graft> mrpurple: well you probably odn't have one... um, try commenting out unnecessary repositories in your sources.list, mebbe
[02:02] <gili> hello
[02:02] <adamonline45> What's better: Plain server install, or LAMP server install for my needs: Personal web server, home file server, DHCP server, NAT & DNS?
[02:02] <shatrat> mrpurple: try editing the /etc/apt/apt.conf and look for a line that says APT::Cachelimit and make the number after it a bit bigger
[02:03] <kitche> aftaylor2, ubuntu is good if you don't want to compile a lot or go hunt for depends
[02:03] <gili> how do i go get the system to ask me for admin password everytime i launcy admin processes
[02:03] <gili> dont want it to remember it
[02:03] <nothlit> !sudo | gili
[02:03] <ubotu> gili: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:03] <graft> mrpurple: or make a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d saying 'APT::Cache-Limit "<some number > 8megabytes>"'
[02:03] <gili> jesus christ
[02:03] <gili> i know what sudo is
[02:03] <LjL> !language | gili
[02:04] <ubotu> gili: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:04] <topgun553> LjL, did I ask you if you knew how to set dual montiors up at different resolution, I have dual monitors working but my montior resolution is off?
[02:04] <gili> sory
[02:04] <gili> sorty
[02:04] <nothlit> adamonline45, run the serverinstall with lamp/dns
[02:04] <gili> sorrry
[02:04] <mrpurple> there is only .. Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[02:04] <gili> that was no my question
[02:04] <graft> gili: it's an option in sudoers, timeout
[02:04] <misha> Hi, I am having display problems on a new install... anyone willing to advise me?
[02:04] <LjL> mrpurple: i've had a suggestion that's similar to some you've already been given - edit /etc/apt/apt.conf (sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf) and add this line:   APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;
[02:04] <topgun553> !language | misha
[02:04] <ubotu> misha: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:04] <topgun553> hahaha sorry
[02:04] <graft> gili: err, timestamp_timeout, even
[02:04] <topgun553> just seeing if that worked
[02:04] <nothlit> gili, i suppose the wiki article may lead to valuable config options?
[02:05] <misha> What did I say?
[02:05] <topgun553> nothing
[02:05] <eternaljoy> are WiFi modems reliable?
[02:05] <topgun553> !sorry | misha
[02:05] <graft> mrpurple: where, in /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[02:05] <LjL> topgun553: yes you asked that, but i don't quite know. ask ubotu about xinerama and dualhead
[02:05] <misha> It worked
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <shatrat> eternaljoy: not as reliable as good old ethernet cable
[02:05] <gili> alright lets try that again....i was not clear about what i said.
[02:05] <LjL> !msg the bot > topgun553
[02:05] <eternaljoy> !wifi
[02:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:05] <mrpurple> graft yes
[02:05] <graft> mrpurple: um... yeah then do what LjL said, oughta work
[02:06] <eternaljoy> shatrat: whats ethernet cable?
[02:06] <graft> mrpurple: if it doesn't, try putting it in apt.conf.d/
[02:06] <Dere1> hello
[02:06] <gili> i want  synaptic to always ask me for password
[02:06] <Dere1> i still, need some help
[02:06] <LjL> mrpurple: though, anyway, i advice against using alien, for the record
[02:06] <shatrat> eternaljoy: the stuff you connect computers with wired, as opposed to wireless.
[02:06] <LjL> gili: it doesn't?
[02:06] <graft> mrpurple: yeah me too... alien bad
[02:06] <mrpurple> can You write me exactly what i have to write in ?
[02:06] <gili> it will ask me for password and RECALL the password for a few minutes i guesss
[02:07] <adamonline45> nothlit: Thank you.  And if I want to create a boot partition during install, how would I insure it's within the first 1023 cylinders of the hard drive?  Ubotu's grub listing didn't help in regards to actually partitioning a boot partition...
[02:07] <LjL> gili: hm, in the console with sudo, yeah, but i believed that didn't apply to gksudo. let me see anyway
[02:07] <gili> thank you
[02:07] <gili> i am not refering to sudo in command line
[02:07] <shifteh> what do i type for mount point
[02:07] <shatrat> adamonline45: it installs grub to the already created MBR unless you specify otherwise
[02:07] <shatrat> dont sweat that part
[02:08] <graft> LjL: gksudo ought to still use sudo tickets as per usual
[02:08] <eternaljoy> shatrat: so if I get an ethernet modem, it connectes using wires and cables?
[02:08] <kitche> gili, yes gksu and sudo remembers the password for a while think it's 5 minutes
[02:08] <Dere1> i am following instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9 i am following the Install from Ubuntu repositories (easier) directions, and i dont understand bassicly, the whole thing, i bassicly was able to do the first step sucsesfully
[02:08] <gili> i want the system to always ask me for password and not recall it for :"x" minutees
[02:08] <shatrat> eternaljoy: Yes, thats faster and reliable.  Wireless is best used for laptops or stuff that moves around, or in a house where you can't easily run cables
[02:08] <topgun553> !bot-comands | topgun553
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-comands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <graft> gili: as i said before, you can set an option in /etc/sudoers, timestamp_timeout, to disable that
[02:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell topgun553 about bot | topgun553, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:08] <luddite> does anyone have a Hoontch DSP24 working on ubuntu (ICE1712 driver set)
[02:09] <gili> graft: ahhh ok thanks....missed that
[02:09] <LjL> and, topgun553, MSG THE BOT in private please
[02:09] <gili> much appreciated
[02:09] <eternaljoy> sharms: ok
[02:09] <shifteh>  root is where they will install ubuntu rite?
[02:09] <Smirnov> i heard theres a program, chkinstall or something that will make DEBs from source ?
[02:09] <shatrat> eternaljoy: but modems dont come in wireless, at least not usually
[02:09] <Smirnov> what program is this?
[02:09] <shatrat> eternaljoy: I think what you are thinking of is Router
[02:09] <kitche> Smirnov, checkinstall
[02:09] <eternaljoy> !ethernet
[02:09] <nothlit> adamonline45, you don't necessarily need a boot partition, and anyways they're talking about the MBR, and grub being installed to it
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <shatrat> shifteh: Yes, / is root
[02:09] <Dere1> shatrat? any ideas
[02:09] <Smirnov> kitche, thanks
[02:09] <eternaljoy> sharms: whats a router
[02:09] <eternaljoy> ?
[02:10] <eternaljoy> shatrat: whats a router
[02:10] <adamonline45> shatrat: Alright...  I'm going on install 4 here, and previously got Grub error 18, which means the disk is too large for the BIOS to boot from wherever it's trying to do so here... Hmmmmm...
[02:10] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to make a HP scanjet 5100c scanner work on edgy. I see a couple of forum posts explaining how to patch hoary kernel to use this scanner. Do these threads apply to me running edgy? Is there a "how to" anywhere specific to installing this scanner on edgy?
[02:10] <LjL> graft: hmm, i suppose the default /etc/sudoers would benefit from some commented out options...
[02:10] <shifteh> should i have swap space?
[02:10] <LjL> graft: are you positively sure that's the "correct" way to change that time in ubuntu?
[02:10] <adamonline45> nothlit: Thanks again =)
[02:10] <graft> LjL: err... you mean that Defaults insults isn't there normally?
[02:10] <shatrat> eternaljoy: a router connects multiple computers to your modem. a router can be ethernet only, or ethernet and wireless
[02:10] <shatrat> Dere1: one sec Ill look at the how-to
[02:11] <graft> LjL: positive.
[02:11] <eternaljoy> shatrat: shoild I get the ethernet modem for adsl2?
[02:11] <Dere1> shatrat: thank you
[02:11] <LjL> graft: there is nothing about time in the default file
[02:11] <shatrat> eternaljoy: Is your computer near the modem?
[02:11] <LjL> graft: i think i'll add that to the wiki page
[02:11] <graft> LjL: right, sorry, just a little joke
[02:11] <eternaljoy> shatrat: so the ethernet modem is also known as a router?
[02:11] <eternaljoy> shatrat: what modem?
[02:11] <SentineLxx> Many thanks for the help guys, that worked :D
[02:12] <shifteh> !antivirus
[02:12] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[02:12] <tommckay> hi everybody, i'm having a problem with gnome-settings-daemon, and i don't know how to fix this problem. please look at my pastebin. http://www.pastebin.ca/328727
[02:12] <shatrat> eternaljoy: a modem is the thing you hook up to the cable line, or the telephone line, that recieves the signal and translates it to ethernet.  You can plug a router into the modem and it acts as a firewall and can connect to multiple computers
[02:12] <LjL> graft: Default insults has no effect for me anyway :P
[02:12] <shatrat> eternaljoy: you can also connect a computer directly to the modem
[02:12] <SentineLxx> But, I'm now having another problem, I just updated to Edgy (6.10) and my sound doesn't work :|  It used to before but now its messed up :(
[02:12] <eternaljoy> shatrat: ok
[02:12] <tim> How do you make all your applications use Sun's java compiler, instead of the gnu one? (for example eclipse)
[02:12] <graft> LjL: maybe you just type too well
[02:12] <gili> ok thanks all
[02:13] <tommckay> SentineLxx: make sure that PCM isn't muted.
[02:13] <gili> sorry for the JC thing
[02:13] <TheDebugger> tim: edit /etc/jvm
[02:13] <IntuitiveNipple> tim: Eclipse will usually search for and use an installed Sun JDK
[02:13] <shatrat> Dere1: the how to looks pretty straight forward.  What are you having trouble with?
[02:13] <nothlit> !java | tim
[02:13] <Trixsey> What is the difference between Linux and Unix? How alike are they? Seeing how one is based on the other.
[02:13] <ubotu> tim: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:13] <mrpurple> ljl : graft: i  did as ljl says
[02:13] <mrpurple> now have to restart .. ?
[02:13] <nothlit> tim, anyways install sun-java5-jdk and dont install gcj?
[02:14] <shifteh> !irc
[02:14] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[02:14] <graft> mrpurple: nah, just try to do apt-get whatever
[02:14] <SentineLxx> tommckay,  nothing is muted :(
[02:14] <mrpurple> wow thanks
[02:14] <alex__> help
[02:14] <graft> SentineLxx: in what manner are things screwy?
[02:14] <kitche> tim, there is two versions of eclipse in the repos one that is built for gcj and the otehr one is for regular java
[02:14] <LjL> graft: ok... i got it now =)
[02:14] <Dere1> shatrat, whatta think
[02:14] <LjL> mrpurple: works?
[02:14] <SentineLxx> graft, If i go into a certain application and select the sound card under it's properties, the sound works
[02:14] <shatrat> Dere1: What are you havingi trouble with? Did you try following that guide step by step?
[02:15] <SentineLxx> But, there is no system sound or anything
[02:15] <graft> SentineLxx: um, using Gnome?
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: System > Preferences > Sound
[02:15] <mrpurple> ljl .. no .. same error as before ..
[02:15] <SentineLxx> graft, yeah gnome mate
[02:15] <shatrat> Dere1: the only thing I dont like about that how-to is using ATI's configurator for the xorg.conf, but then I like doing things the hard way.
[02:15] <shifteh> will i be able to read ntfs partition on linux ?
[02:15] <graft> SentineLxx: as the nipple said
[02:15] <cwillu> gedit won't open a file
[02:15] <shatrat> shifteh: yes
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> *the* nipple? :O
[02:15] <LjL> mrpurple: hm, try a "sudo apt-get clean" i guess, and also perhaps try increasing that number even more
[02:15] <cwillu> I can cat it, open office will open it, but gedit flat out refuses to
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> how about the plural :p
[02:15] <cwillu> just a plain text file
[02:15] <SentineLxx> IntuitiveNipple, I'm in the sound settings, i've set the card as the default one, but it still doesnt do anything
[02:15] <ubuntu_> hi, i think i there is a problem with my xorg that is causing my keyboard to act up, when im logging in to the comp on in another TTY server its fine, but when im acctually logged in i have to hold a key for about five seconds before it will type, im on a live cd now
[02:15] <shifteh> shatrat : so that mean i can save documents onto it ?
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: Try selecting ALSA or OSS and press that Test button
[02:16] <graft> SentineLxx: are you running esd?
[02:16] <shifteh> or isit read only
[02:16] <grndslm> anybody know how to resolve this error message from doing a ./configure :  "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[02:16] <shatrat> shifteh: write access is a little tricker, those drivers are experimenta.  Read access is easy though
[02:16] <adamonline45> cwillu: I may be way off, but are the permissions okay?
[02:16] <cwillu> grndslm: make sure you've got the x dev package installed
[02:16] <Dere1> ya...i got stuck on the part with the command 'sudo aticonfig --initial '
[02:16] <tommckay> ubuntu_: change the keyboard settings. theres a delay as part of an accessibility package.
[02:16] <SentineLxx> IntuitiveNipple, If i select ALSA and click test it gives me this error:
[02:16] <SentineLxx> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[02:16] <Dere1> it says: Found fglrx primary device section
[02:16] <Dere1> Nothing to do, terminating.
[02:16] <grndslm> cwillu:  thanks
[02:16] <cwillu> adamonline45: I'm running gedit as the same user as when I cat it, and as when I ooo it
[02:17] <tommckay> darel: are you running edgy?
[02:17] <CorpseFeeder> how do I find out if my scanner is installed or working? I can't work out how to choose a scan device in xsane scanner. xsane has chosen to use my video capture card for scanner input (which obviously is not working as a scanner) and I can find no way to tell it to choose a different device.
[02:17] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: Try all the options, see if one works
[02:17] <adamonline45> cwillu: Hmm, weird...  I figure it wouldn't open if oo if the permissions are wrong anyway...
[02:17] <SentineLxx> I have, none of them work :| some of them allow me to test, but there is no sound
[02:17] <shatrat> Dere1: You can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself if you want.  All you really need to do is change a few lines in it.  You need to add the part that the how to talks about, the thing to disable composite, and you need to change driver "ati" to driver "fglrx" in the device section of xorg.conf
[02:17] <IntuitiveNipple> CorpseFeeder: That's because your Scanner hasn't been recognised, I have the same issue with an HP Scanjet 5550
[02:17] <cwillu> adamonline45: it's on a cifs mount, but as I said, I can read and write to the files just fine, gedit just refuses to open it ('could not open the file /<...>/address')
[02:18] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: ouch... need to dig deeper then
[02:18] <Dere1> ok
[02:18] <IntuitiveNipple> !sound
[02:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:18] <shatrat> Dere1: wait
[02:18] <Dere1> k
[02:18] <SentineLxx> I tried reinstalling ALSA, and that deleted gnome as well
[02:18] <shatrat> Dere1: If you have already run the other command though...just try restarting X?  control alt backspace if you completed the how-to
[02:18] <SentineLxx> so I just had to apt0get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <SentineLxx> and still the same :|
[02:18] <Dere1> i tried
[02:18] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: You're not having much luck :O
[02:19] <shatrat> Dere1: still no direct rendering?
[02:19] <SentineLxx> I know :| It WAS working fine in 6.06
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: Have you inspected your /var/log/dmesg carefully for clues?
[02:19] <adamonline45> cwillu: Weird, so it's opening gedit, and you're getting... the big yellow banner like when you try to open a binary?
[02:19] <grndslm> cwillu:  i downloaded the x-dev package now, but ./configure still gives the same error
[02:19] <Trixsey> What is the difference between Linux and Unix? How alike are they? Seeing how one is based on the other.
[02:19] <SentineLxx> Nope, I didn't know that existed, I'll check now
[02:19] <shatrat> Unix is patented and copyrighted to hell
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: hang on...
[02:19] <Dere1> yup, no direct
[02:19] <shatrat> Linux is a free clone, sort of
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: System > Administration > System Logs
[02:20] <graft> man... i compulsively type 'dmesg' like every few minutes
[02:20] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: That'll show you all your major logs
[02:20] <misha> I just did a new install today.  It never asked me for a password for root... is there a default?
[02:20] <shatrat> thats kind of like saying the US is a fork of the UK
[02:20] <IntuitiveNipple> Look in dmesg and messages
[02:20] <Trixsey> But Linux is pretty much taking over now?
[02:20] <SentineLxx> ahh ok
[02:20] <Flannel> misha: ubuntu's root account is disabled by default, we use "sudo" instead
[02:20] <Flannel> !sudo | misha
[02:20] <ubotu> misha: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:20] <misha> thanks
[02:20] <LjL> mrpurple: ok, further suggestion is to be bold and remove your APT cache manually. "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/* -rf" - be *very careful* to type this right, and i cannot really guarantee anything. cc: graft
[02:20] <kitche> Trixsey, want to see a OS that is close to Unix look up any of the BSD operating systems
[02:20] <shatrat> Only in some markets. Unix is still big time in other places.  BSD is technically Unix as well.  Solaris is a version of unix
[02:20] <drx00> I can't start GNOME... "Fatal server error" "xf86OpenConsole"
[02:21] <Trixsey> kitche, what is Solaris based on? Unix?
[02:21] <shatrat> Dere1: can you copy your xorg.conf to a pastebin and link it to me?
[02:21] <shatrat> !paste|Dere1
[02:21] <ubotu> Dere1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:21] <Dere1> ok, will do
[02:21] <kitche> Trixsey, yes Solaris is closer to Unix then BSD actually
[02:21] <shatrat> Trixsey: Solaris is sun's version of Unix
[02:21] <shatrat> I won
[02:21] <SentineLxx> IntuitiveNipple, There is nothing in the logs regarding the sound from what I can see
[02:21] <Trixsey> I hate Solaris :/
[02:21] <shatrat> You can download Solaris 10 for free, but good luck getting it to work on your hardware
[02:21] <Trixsey> We use it in school.. really buggy there :(
[02:22] <grndslm> anybody know how to resolve this error message from doing a ./configure (even after downloading the x-dev package) :  "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[02:22] <Thug-N-Me> cedega failed the 3D Acceleration test, how do i enable it ? i have a intel chipset i180
[02:22] <shatrat> Yeah we have a bunch of SunRays at my school, they make me cry.  They dont even have ssh installed
[02:22] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, i810 doesn't have 3d acceleration
[02:22] <graft> SentineLxx: is esd running at all?
[02:22] <dyclops> hi. I am trying to chown a directory to be owned by me. At present it's owned by root. I run this command: sudo chown -R dyclops md/
[02:22] <SentineLxx> graft, sorry mate, I have no idea what esd is
[02:22] <SentineLxx> How do I check
[02:22] <SentineLxx> ?
[02:22] <graft> SentineLxx: ps -ef | grep esd
[02:22] <dyclops> but all i get is  Operation not permitted
[02:22] <IntuitiveNipple> SentineLxx: There should be. You should see the PCI sound card reported, and the the sound driver (like ALSA) report
[02:23] <misha> My display is all messed up and I can't really run any conf utilities
[02:23] <Thug-N-Me> kitche really ? but how come in windows i could play a specific game and in ubuntu with cedega not ?
[02:23] <tommckay> !esd
[02:23] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[02:23] <CorpseFeeder> I found in the sane-project.org page that this scanner is listed as having "complete" support, but requires ppscsi driver and epst module to work... are these two requirements easy enough for a simpleton such as myself to get/install? Can I get them through synaptic or apt-get somehow?
[02:23] <SentineLxx> graft, 1000      7079  7058  0 01:23 pts/1    00:00:00 grep esd
[02:23] <SentineLxx>  thats the output
[02:23] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me: intel hasn't put out a driver for it with openGL support I guess.
[02:23] <Thug-N-Me> kitche same game ... in windows some 3d test tools show me that i have 3d acceleration enabled
[02:23] <Dere1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2933/
[02:23] <tommckay> this isn't windows
[02:23] <graft> SentineLxx: erm... okay, that's fine
[02:23] <tommckay> this is linux.
[02:24] <shatrat> Dere1: thanks, 1 sec.
[02:24] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, different drivers but in windows the i810 driver isn't doing the 3d acceleration anyways
[02:24] <bbbrad> what command can i use to see what video card i have?
[02:24] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat the opengl test its done with success only 3d acceleration failed
[02:24] <graft> bbbrad: lspci -v
[02:24] <aftaylor2> bbbrad, cat /proc/pci
[02:24] <tommckay> bbbrad: phillips screw driver ;)
[02:24] <Thug-N-Me> kitche ok
[02:24] <tommckay> hehehe
[02:24] <tommckay> confused yet?
[02:24] <graft> tommckay: that's not a command
[02:24] <tommckay> graft: no kidding ;)
[02:24] <tommckay> it was a joke.
[02:24] <graft> tommckay: we don't allow humor here
[02:24] <drx> I can't start GNOME... "Fatal server error" "xf86OpenConsole"
[02:25] <tommckay> graft: i see my nazi-overlord.
[02:25] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me: what do you get for glxinfo | grep rendering? in terminal
[02:25] <dukex64> hello everyone
[02:25] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat Your video card appears to be using direct hardware rendering.  see ?
[02:25] <LjL> tommckay, ahum
[02:25] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me: maybe the performance is so low that cedega still wont accept that, might want to poke through their forums. I use wine myself
[02:25] <Thug-N-Me> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[02:25] <Thug-N-Me> direct rendering: Yes
[02:25] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, to have 3d acceleration you need direct rendering which i810 can't do at least from what I have seen
[02:25] <shatrat> Dere1: You only put the first 50 lines in bro.
[02:25] <cwillu> okay, I'm just going to cry now.  I don't know how this is even possible
[02:26] <mrpurple> LjL .. i put a number higher and now seems working
[02:26] <TheHermit> Is The IPfilter Plugin in Azureus Is Bad Or Good
[02:26] <stmoon> hello
[02:26] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, you must have a newer i810 I know my i810 can't do direct rendering you most have one of those inbetween versions
[02:26] <Dere1> lol, only?
[02:26] <mrpurple> let see if skype go ...
[02:26] <graft> mrpurple: you might want to clean up your sources.list
[02:26] <Thug-N-Me> kitche ok its not a goog graphic card ,, but anyway
[02:26] <LjL> mrpurple: hm, good... so you can save the dangerous removing for later i guess :)
[02:26] <stmoon> did you install ipw3945 driver?
[02:26] <graft> sorry i precipitated that, tommckay
[02:26] <shatrat> Dere1: Its a long config file.
[02:26] <dyclops> anyone?
[02:26] <stmoon> please help me.
[02:26] <mrpurple> graft : yes
[02:26] <stmoon> i use ubuntu edgy
[02:26] <tommckay> graft: i was still joking when i called you a nazi too by the way, no offence meant.
[02:26] <Thug-N-Me> kitche i must to get me a new nvidia card , what do you think ?
[02:26] <TheHermit> Is The IPfilter Plugin in Azureus Is Bad Or Good.....Plz Bec cabt dowenload files through azurues
[02:26] <graft> tommckay: yeah, no probs
[02:27] <TheHermit> cant*
[02:27] <grndslm> anybody know how to resolve this error message from doing a ./configure (even after downloading the x-dev package) :  "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[02:27] <graft> tommckay: i'm not some sort of uptight hippie, after all
[02:27] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me: as long as you make sure to get one that fits your motherboard slot, I dont think youll regret it.  I upgraded from ati -> nvidia and I love it
[02:27] <kitche> graft, you do know your talking to yourself right :)
[02:27] <LjL> tommckay, graft: if you don't mind dropping this discussion, no matter how innocent you both find it.
[02:27] <shatrat> grndslm: maybe you need to install dev packages for xorg.
[02:27] <drx> I can't start GNOME... "Fatal server error" "xf86OpenConsole"
[02:27] <Dere1> what should i do like, what should i add?
[02:27] <graft> err, sure :P
[02:27] <Kiamo> :((((((
[02:27] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat yeah , nvidia rocks
[02:28] <high-freq> hmm anyone know if wireshark has to be manually installed
[02:28] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat they are fully supported in linux arent they ?
[02:28] <high-freq> i don't see it in repos
[02:28] <high-freq> at least these ones...hehe
[02:28] <kitche> !wireshark
[02:28] <Kiamo> im trying to backup my ubuntu drive and winodws keeps giving me errirs saying filenames are too long when im copying my mp3s
[02:28] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[02:28] <grndslm> shatrat:  ahh...thanks!
[02:28] <bbbrad> how can i find out if my graphics card is 3d accelerated or not?
[02:28] <kitche> high-freq, you don't have universe enabled probably
[02:28] <tommckay> high-freq: there it is, in the repositories, make sure you enable the correct ones!
[02:28] <drx> anyone know how to get GNOME working?
[02:28] <gili> graft: could you tell me which is the sudoers tag i need to edit
[02:29] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me: I dont know about fully. I know some intel stuff is open source.  Nvidia are still closed source but they are very powerful and come with lots of nie config options and support AIGLX et cetera
[02:29] <gili> to get sudo not to recall root passworod
[02:29] <eternaljoy> drx: hehe
[02:29] <Drunken_Canuck> any reccoment a good usenet grabber?
[02:29] <kitche> bbbrad, glxinfo|grep rendering should say yes
[02:29] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: I use Pan
[02:29] <high-freq> hmm i enabled em all
[02:29] <graft> gili: just include 'Defaults timestamp_timeout=0' in your /etc/sudoers
[02:29] <high-freq> lemme double check..hehe
[02:29] <drx> anyone know how to add a display driver for SVGA in text mode?
[02:29] <bbbrad> kitche: it says no
[02:29] <someothernick> i use pan also
[02:30] <Drunken_Canuck> i'll look into that, thanks shatrat
[02:30] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: I dont know if there are packages available, I compiled mine.
[02:30] <someothernick> hellanzb is nice for nzb's
[02:30] <kitche> bbbrad, then you don't have 3d acceleration at least done by the card
[02:30] <graft> i think pan is in the repos...
[02:30] <Drunken_Canuck> is there any good ones i cant get off synaptic?
[02:30] <graft> !pan
[02:30] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[02:30] <Dere1> shatrat? what am i supposed to add
[02:30] <bbbrad> kitche: ok thanks :)
[02:30] <graft> pan is pretty awesome
[02:30] <someothernick> pan in repos is old
[02:31] <Drunken_Canuck> alright looks like im tryin pan
[02:31] <shatrat> Dere1: I dont know.  Can you try and paste the full xorg.conf to pastebin? Or at least the Device section onwards.
[02:31] <ardchoille42> liferea is good too
[02:31] <high-freq> bah i swore i enabled em...hehe
[02:32] <Dere1> ooohhh
[02:32] <Dere1> sorry, i see whatcha meen
[02:32] <shatrat> Dere1: no problem, im not going anywhere, let me know :)
[02:32] <Cryoniq> question: what does the alsa-oss wrapper do? Is it for making applikations that only can use oss to talk successfully via ALSA instead?
[02:33] <Jbirk> I paid my student loan
[02:33] <Jbirk> a pain in the ass really
[02:33] <shatrat> !alsa-oss
[02:33] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[02:33] <Cryoniq> holy.... allright..
[02:33] <shatrat> ubotu, you have failed me.  Yes, Cryoniq, thats basically what it does
[02:33] <Dere1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2935/
[02:33] <DjEvolution> Hi there fellas, im looking for a linux based replacement for something like virtual dj
[02:33] <Cryoniq> After I installed that package do I need to restart something?
[02:34] <DjEvolution> anyone know one?
[02:34] <graft> why do we still need alsa-oss? can't alsa just sit behind /dev/dsp?
[02:34] <tommckay> DjEvolution: do you just want a mixing program?
[02:34] <graft> makes no sense...
[02:34] <kitche> Cryoniq, yeah oss is no more really so that's why ther is alsa-oss some apps still use OSS
[02:34] <DjEvolution> yes
[02:34] <Cryoniq> yeah like TeamSpeak RC2....
[02:34] <kitche> graft, alsa-oss does that
[02:34] <DjEvolution> Just basic mixing functions
[02:35] <graft> kitche: i thought alsa-oss just gives you aoss wrapper...
[02:35] <shatrat> Dere1: I hate the aticonfig utility...makes xorg.conf so ugly
[02:35] <tommckay> DjEvolution: there's a cool program I use, let me get it for you.
[02:35] <kitche> graft, it's just called alsa but ubuntu calls it alsa-oss
[02:35] <DjEvolution> ok, thanks
[02:35] <Cryoniq> Been fiddling around to get mic to work like 3 hours now in it..
[02:35] <tommckay> DjEvolution: live??
[02:35] <shatrat> Dere1: I think I see the problem, let me ponder a bit more
[02:35] <Dere1> oh
[02:35] <Dere1> ok
[02:35] <dyclops> can someone please help me. chown does not appear to work. I have a wish to chown an entire directory::sudo chown -R dyclops md/      all I get is operation not permitted
[02:36] <DjEvolution> What do you mean live?
[02:36] <cwillu> can anybody help me figure out why gedit won't open a file that every other text editor on my system can?
[02:36] <Cryoniq> I grabbed a sh script calling binary for TS2 via aoss.. but no luck.. but maybe aoss is loaded into system at start so.. hmm
[02:36] <Cryoniq> ah what the heck.. reboot it is..
[02:37] <dukex64> can anyone point me to some guides in setting up a fileserver with ubuntu
[02:37] <graft> dyclops: is it sudo not permitted or chown not permitted?
[02:37] <nothlit> !nfs | dukex64
[02:37] <ubotu> dukex64: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:37] <shatrat> Dere1: Do you have a backup xorg.conf that doesn't have the aticonfig[0]  stuff in it?
[02:37] <nothlit> !samba | dukex64
[02:37] <tommckay> DjEvolution: get Jokosher
[02:37] <ubotu> dukex64: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:37] <dukex64> thanks
[02:37] <DjEvolution> Ok.
[02:37] <Jbirk> samba sucks
[02:37] <nothlit> dukex64, anyways, look at the official server guide in help.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <Jbirk> NFS is better
[02:37] <DjEvolution> Sudo Apt get Jokosher right?
[02:37] <allad> hello guys. I just set up a copy of Apache tomcat5.5 on my ubuntu machine. I want to use it to serve my blog based on Java Servlets. So far so good. Everything is working. But when my servlets try to connect to an ORACLE Database elsewhere on Internet I got an error : SocketPermission, access denied. So I guess, by default  tomcat can't open connection to the Internet. How can I fix this?
[02:38] <graft> is there any way to get windows to play with NFS?
[02:38] <nothlit> dukex64, that will have the best documentation
[02:38] <tommckay> DjEvolution: it's pretty slick right now.
[02:38] <DjEvolution> Im new to this
[02:38] <DjEvolution> im not too sure how to download
[02:38] <kitche> graft: yes but it's a long process
[02:38] <nothlit> !jokosher
[02:38] <ubotu> jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[02:38] <Thug-N-Me> my dvd doesnt eject
[02:38] <dyclops> graft: chown: changing ownership of `md/s44': Operation not permitted
[02:38] <tommckay> allad: i can almost assure you you'll have a better chance finding answers in the apache irc chatroom.
[02:38] <nothlit> !universe | DjEvolution
[02:38] <ubotu> DjEvolution: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:38] <graft> kitche: nothing resembling native support
[02:38] <Dere1> i dont think so..
[02:39] <graft> dyclops: um, who owns that currently?
[02:39] <shatrat> Dere1: actually im making some changes to the one in pastebin for you to try, hold on
[02:39] <Vandalay> there must be howto's on the forums
[02:39] <dave__> question: my vid card only works with the official NVidia drivers, but whenever i reboot for some reason I need to go through the NVIDIA-Linux-x86blahblahblah.run, and recompile it to get it back, any idea whats going on?
[02:39] <kitche> graft, only with a client that I know of
[02:39] <dyclops> root
[02:39] <allad> tommkay : what is the channel?
[02:39] <graft> dyclops: permissions?
[02:39] <dyclops> graft, root
[02:39] <Dere1> ok
[02:39] <kitche> dave__, it's not being loaded when you boot
[02:39] <dyclops> drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 32K 2007-01-24 08:11 md
[02:39] <tommckay> DjEvolution: let me know what you think of it once you get it installed.
[02:39] <DjEvolution> Okay.
[02:39] <DjEvolution> Thanks TOm
[02:39] <drx>  when i run YAST and click Graphics Card and Monitor, it pauses several seconds and then nothing happens
[02:39] <DjEvolution> i iwll
[02:39] <graft> dyclops: ah... you need to change the group, eh
[02:40] <graft> dyclops: maybe...
[02:40] <dave__> how do i change that?
[02:40] <shifteh> say i got a external harddisk, fat32 can i write on it on linux ?
[02:40] <tommckay> drx: what do you mean YAST... ubuntu doesn't use YAST....
[02:40] <tux1980> hello
[02:40] <kitche> drx, ummm yast is for SuSe
[02:40] <tux1980> will ubuntuwork well on an older laptop
[02:40] <shatrat> Dere1: by the way, what resolution do you want? isnt 1024x768 a little small?
[02:40] <graft> dyclops: try chown -R dyclops.dyclops blahblahblah
[02:40] <tux1980> ubuntu work
[02:40] <tommckay> tux1980: xubuntu is a lot easier on older hardware. how old is it? specs please
[02:41] <shatrat> tux1980: Depends on how old.  How much ram does it have?
[02:41] <drx> I know it doesn't but you try getting support on SUSE!
[02:41] <tommckay> drx: well how do you expect ubuntu users to help you with a suse specific issue?
[02:41] <dyclops> graft: still not permitted
[02:41] <graft> drx: this might be a sign you should switch to ubuntu...
[02:41] <tommckay> drx: keep trying with suse.
[02:41] <tommckay> drx: or listen to graft ;)
[02:41] <Smirnov> anyone here using snes9x
[02:41] <shatrat> I used to use SuSE for a long time.  Yast was great  a few years ago but it has been going downhill while everyone else has been improving
[02:42] <dave__> where would i go to make it load the NV drivers on boot?
[02:42] <Thug-N-Me> kitche i810 is an Xorg driver for Intel integrated graphics chipsets. The driver supports depths 8, 15, 16 and 24. All visual types are supported in depth 8. For the i810/i815 other depths support the TrueColor and DirectColor visuals. For the 830M and later, only the TrueColor visual is supported for depths greater than 8. The driver supports hardware accelerated 3D via the Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI), but only in depth 16 for
[02:42] <Thug-N-Me>  the i810/i815 and depths 16 and 24 for the 830M and later.
[02:42] <graft> dyclops: weird... sudo -i first, then try to chown...
[02:42] <tommckay> !paste
[02:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <tux1980> 1998
[02:42] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Where do i download this
[02:42] <DjEvolution> its not in Synaptic
[02:42] <Dere1> shatrat: got sometin fr me?
[02:42] <tommckay> DjEvolution: www.jokosher.org. its in the ubuntu edgy repositories i believe.
[02:42] <shatrat> Dere1: What screen resolution do you want?
[02:43] <dave__> whats the name of the rc.conf editor? i cant remember it
[02:43] <zigovr3> hi all , I have a problem with package that doesn't want to be upgraded or removed and is blocking all the rest
[02:43] <misha> My display does not refresh properly.. it's littered with old menus and windows and impossible to tell what has focus.  The screenesaver works fine.  Any ideas??
[02:43] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, yes your point being I still ran i810 with dri and still couldn't get direct rendering to work on my onboard
[02:43] <tommckay> DjEvolution: sorr i was mistaken. read this: http://www.jokosher.org/download#ubuntu
[02:43] <graft> dyclops: oh wait, shoot... i meant what are the permissions on md/s44
[02:43] <zigovr3> the package is "python-freevo", is complains : update-python-modules: error: /usr/share/python-support/python-freevo does not exist
[02:44] <dyclops> graft: chown -R dyclops.dyclops
[02:44] <zigovr3> that is apt-get gives this error message when I try to configure or remove the package
[02:44] <drx> I run both SUSe and Ubuntu
[02:44] <dyclops> graft, sorry
[02:44] <drx> the SUSe isn't by choice
[02:44] <dyclops> graft, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32K Jan 24 08:19 s44
[02:44] <Dere1> uuhh...the one thats like normal.. 1024bysumtin or other
[02:44] <_JECKEL_> ok..who here knows about printer sharing?
[02:44] <DjEvolution> tommckay: I dont see where to dwnld the runscript
[02:44] <humblerodent> Can I get BadRAM installed into my kernel without recompiling and all of that shit?
[02:45] <Drunken_Canuck> does pan open .nzb files?
[02:45] <anika> !vulture
[02:45] <dyclops> graft, sudo -i didn't work either
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | humblerodent
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vulture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <ubotu> humblerodent: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:45] <shatrat> Dere1: Try this one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2937/
[02:45] <anika> Anyone know Vulture's claw?
[02:45] <Dere1> ok
[02:45] <graft> dyclops: what are the permissions on the file it's refusing to chown?
[02:45] <humblerodent> I'm sorry.  and all of that poop?
[02:45] <Goldfisch> Has there been some update on bootscripts? I have a custom bootscript, and it doesn't seem to run anymore since I upgraded to edgy. I do ps -ef | grep init, and find init running at runlevel "splash" instead of 2 like it used to.
[02:45] <_JECKEL_> I am trying to share a printer that will be connected to my desktop (which is running ubuntu dapper drake) and make it able for me to print from my laptop which is running windows XP
[02:46] <tommckay> DjEvolution: wget http://www.jokosher.org/0.2/Jokosher0.2runscript
[02:46] <Dere1> ok, overwrite the other file with the new one u gave me?
[02:46] <sholden> is there a way to make ubuntu redetect my sound card?  It worked at first and just stopped playing sound recently.
[02:46] <_JECKEL_> actually i'm sorry..I'm running edgy eft
[02:46] <dyclops> graft,  2683584 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2747958744 2007-01-24 08:19 S44_25NS_FINAL.trr
[02:46] <_JECKEL_> on the desktop
[02:46] <shatrat> Dere1: Yeah, you might want to make a backup first though.  like, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup in a terminal
[02:47] <graft> dyclops: hm, that's a big file, there...
[02:47] <dyclops> yeah
[02:47] <Dere1> ok, did it
[02:47] <cwillu> gah!!!!!!
[02:47] <_JECKEL_> some other info.....I have the printer working on the ubuntu desktop..it prints fine
[02:47] <shatrat> Dere1: I didnt fill in monitor refresh rates, not sure why they werent already in it.
[02:47] <ubuntu_> hi, i think i there is a problem with my xorg that is causing my keyboard to act up, when im logging in to the comp on in another TTY server its fine, but when im acctually logged in i have to hold a key for about five seconds before it will type, im on a live cd now
[02:47] <dyclops> graft, It's 1/10 of the size it originally was
[02:47] <anika> Has anyone tried to get vulture's eyes in a .deb?
[02:47] <_JECKEL_> and I have samba working to where I can access my folders from win XP
[02:47] <zigovr3> anyone could help me to force apt-get to remove the "python-freevo" package that is blocking all the rest ?
[02:47] <_JECKEL_> but..I can't get the printer to share
[02:47] <_JECKEL_> sooo...if anyone can help me..PM or something?
[02:47] <cwillu> nothing like reading crap like 'uses mmap when possible', that tries to use mmap when it isn't available, sometimes
[02:48] <tommckay> ubuntu_: i gave you the solution to that problem earlier. open keyboard settings and disable the delay. its an accessibility feature.
[02:48] <humblerodent> okay, I'll ask my question again nicer.  Can I get BadRAM installed into my kernel without recompiling?
[02:48] <cwillu> only on the first read, mind you
[02:48] <cwillu> oy
[02:48] <crimsun> humblerodent: no.
[02:48] <Goldfisch> zzigovr3: sudo dpkg -P python-freevo
[02:48] <tommckay> humblerodent: is it a kernel module?
[02:48] <Thug-N-Me> kitche Option "DRI" "boolean"   is dri enabled like this ?
[02:48] <zigovr3> Goldfisch: ok thanks I'll try that
[02:48] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Doesnt work
[02:48] <maddash> Thug-N-Me: s\boolean\true\
[02:48] <DjEvolution> tommckay: says there is a bug
[02:48] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, no
[02:48] <CorpseFeeder> I have the reverse problem to _JECKEL_ , I can make my printers share but can't get any files/folders to share over samba
[02:48] <Thug-N-Me> maddash dont get you
[02:49] <humblerodent> crimsun: so I need to apt-get the source right?  which is confusing since when I do apt-cache search for the source, all I get is some old 2.4 version.
[02:49] <tommckay> DjEvolution: k download the tarball and try it that way, their script is bad i guess.
[02:49] <dyclops> graft, any ideas?
[02:49] <humblerodent> tommckay: yeah....
[02:49] <maddash> Thug-N-Me: replace boolean with true
[02:49] <crimsun> humblerodent: because you're searching for the wrong source package. apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[02:49] <Thug-N-Me> kitche Section "DRI" 	Mode	0666   EndSection  what about this ?
[02:49] <tommckay> DjEvolution: its a good program from what I've seen. i have it installed myself.
[02:49] <graft> dyclops: um... it's mounted read-only?
[02:49] <Dere1> wait, so what should i do?
[02:49] <tux1980> anyone know how to use the wireless ubuntu
[02:49] <Thug-N-Me> maddash and what about Section "DRI"  Mode 0666   EndSection  ?
[02:49] <tux1980> in ubuntu'
[02:49] <zigovr3> Goldfisch: the problem is that I get this error : "update-python-modules: error: /usr/share/python-support/python-freevo does not exist" when trying dpkg -P python-freevo (same error as with apt-get remove in fact)
[02:49] <Vandalay> if you have a dual boot & a nice display in xp you can use pixelclock & timings from the xp-nvidia driver in your xorg.conf modeline
[02:49] <tommckay> !wireless
[02:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:50] <DjEvolution> tommckay: where is tarball?
[02:50] <anika> Anyone used gaim beta 6 with MSN?
[02:50] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, that option is right you jsut have to have DRI say true instead of boolean
[02:50] <maddash> erm
[02:50] <maddash> why is _JECKEL_ Pinging me?
[02:50] <tommckay> DjEvolution: wget http://www.jokosher.org/scripts/download.php/src/www.jokosher.org/0.2/jokosher-0.2.tar.gz
[02:50] <Thug-N-Me> kitche thanks
[02:50] <Goldfisch> zigovr3: Do this => dpkg -l | grep python-freevo  <== What do you see?
[02:50] <tommckay> DjEvolution: did you make that script executable???
[02:50] <maddash> Thug-N-Me: the "SECTION \"dri\"" is fine
[02:50] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Yes i did. Do I run this the same way?
[02:51] <zigovr3> Goldfisch: I get this "pF  python-freevo                              1.6.2-0edgy2                         Application data for Freevo
[02:51] <zigovr3> "
[02:51] <MotorCityMadMan> $ uname -r -s
[02:51] <MotorCityMadMan> Linux 2.6.15-27-386
[02:51] <humblerodent> crimsun: ah....thanks.
[02:51] <MotorCityMadMan> sorry
[02:51] <tommckay> DjEvolution: untar it and cd to the folder.
[02:51] <shatrat> Dere1: in a terminal use the command "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup" to make a backup of your xorg.conf
[02:51] <humblerodent> crimsun: do you know a good guide for compiling a new module into the kernel for someone that is kind of n00bish about kernel compiling?
[02:51] <DjEvolution> tommckay: can you elaborate?
[02:52] <crimsun> humblerodent: it's not going to be a module. It touches core components of Linux.
[02:52] <humblerodent> oh, well, it's a patch, anyway.
[02:52] <shatrat> Dere1: then "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and remove everything, then paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2937/ and save
[02:52] <tommckay> DjEvolution: open the file you downloaded and extract it. then open a terminal type cd /where/youextracted/folder/
[02:52] <dyclops> graft, I don't think so. When I vi newfile not su, i cannot write, but when i su i can write
[02:52] <humblerodent> crimsun: the download is just a .patch file
[02:52] <humblerodent> ^
[02:52] <crimsun> humblerodent: but yes, there are how-tos on the Ubuntu wiki.
[02:52] <maddash> shatrat: why gksudo, not sudo?
[02:52] <humblerodent> oh, okay, I'll look around, thanks.
[02:52] <kitche> DjEvolution, tar -xvf <tarfile>.tar{.gz/bz2/} cd name of tarfile
[02:52] <humblerodent> hopefully I can get it figured out before my computer hits that one byte again =P
[02:52] <shatrat> maddash: supposedly sudo doesnt setup the environment variables properly
[02:53] <humblerodent> sometimes it happens within 5 minutes after booting
[02:53] <graft> dyclops: is this in your normal root partition?
[02:53] <shatrat> maddash: for gui apps that is
[02:53] <dyclops> graft, what about just chmod 777  -R or something
[02:53] <eitan> after the c compiler updates these past couple dates, I can't compile cairo-dock anymore...any help?
[02:53] <Goldfisch> zigovr3: Okay, don't know what "pF" means. Installed packages look like "ii".
[02:53] <dyclops> graft, no. It's a seperate ext3 partition
[02:53] <anika> Vulture's eyes!
[02:53] <anika> !games
[02:53] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:53] <graft> dyclops: usually if it's denying root some operation, it has some other issue...
[02:53] <DjEvolution> tommckay: What would it look like if it was on my desktop
[02:54] <zigovr3> Goldfisch: apparently, the package has disapeared from the repository so I cannot even reinstall it
[02:54] <tommckay> look on the website.
[02:54] <graft> dyclops: how's it mounted?
[02:54] <tommckay> theres screenshots.
[02:54] <slyfox> When I copy files via cifs file_mode=0777 from my linux box to my windows shared folder, when the files finishes being copied, I get this message: "Could not change persmissiion for.... and it gives me the file name I jsut copied"   What is that ? How do I fix this ?
[02:54] <Drunken_Canuck> shatrat: does pan download .nzb files?
[02:54] <Drunken_Canuck> like grabit
[02:54] <kitche> !python-vo
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-vo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <tommckay> DjEvolution: just do this: "sudo apt-get install audacity" and try installing jokosher some other time. Audacity is good too.
[02:55] <graft> anika: what are these vulture eyes you're talking about?
[02:55] <DjEvolution> I have audacity
[02:55] <CorpseFeeder> someone go wake the people up in the #sane channel. I need their superior intellect.
[02:55] <tommckay> DjEvolution: what are you looking for that audacity doesn't do?
[02:55] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Im sorry if im irritating you, but im very new to this and have no idea as to what im doing
[02:55] <slyfox> anyone ?
[02:55] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: Yes
[02:55] <MotorCityMadMan> is this dapper--> Linux 2.6.15-27-386 ?
[02:55] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Im looking more to increase the bps, filters, scratching
[02:56] <shatrat> MotorCityMadMan: looks like it, default kernel in edgy is -generic
[02:56] <Dere1> Shatrat: Done
[02:56] <kitche> slyfox: probably says that due to that NTFS doesn't use permissions like Linux does
[02:56] <dyclops> graft, I made a mistake. /data2 is ext3, /data, the one we are working on is fat32
[02:56] <shatrat> Dere1: Ok derek. Focus
[02:56] <anika> graft: It was a game called Nethack until it became a game called Falcon's eye until it became Vulture's Claw
[02:56] <Drunken_Canuck> shatrat:  can you tell me how? ive been messing with it since i downloaded it how ever long ago that was
[02:56] <tigafan09> im experiencing random freezes. any idea?
[02:56] <mrpurple> jlj
[02:56] <CorpseFeeder> air conditioner set too low?
[02:56] <anika> I can get all of them except the last one
[02:56] <slyfox> kitche: so it is ok to ignore this message?
[02:56] <kitche> anika, you do know NetHack is still around the other two are just clones of nethack
[02:56] <mrpurple> i'm here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:56] <graft> dyclops: well that would explain much...
[02:56] <Dere1> lol, focusing (btw i have ADD but im on meds so, where all good)
[02:56] <kitche> slyfox, yes
[02:56] <anika> kitche: I'm a Graphic whore
[02:57] <mrpurple> i did the first step ..
[02:57] <graft> dyclops: can't very well have unix ownership, etc., on a fat32 system
[02:57] <anika> GUI > *
[02:57] <shatrat> Dere1: Think happy thoughts...and restart the X server with ctrl alt backspace.  If you are greeted by a nightmare, boot into recovery mode and "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:57] <mrpurple> i donload the file ..
[02:57] <SentineLxx> Can anyone help me with my sound problem? Since updating to Edgy, it has stopped working...
[02:57] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: I havent even started it in like a month, one sec
[02:57] <dyclops> graft, is there a way I can edit the files?
[02:57] <Drunken_Canuck> lol thanks
[02:57] <mrpurple> but i cannot go ahead
[02:57] <dyclops> without having to sudo
[02:57] <MotorCityMadMan> shatrat: i used the uname command for that info but is threr a command for better info ?
[02:57] <Syco54645> hello all.  having some problems with my sound in efty.  if i try to play an actual bought dvd via my drive it says that the sound device is in use.  i can play homemade dvds that i have encoded from vhs, but not bought dvds.  what could be wrong?  it doesnt work in xine or mplayer but fine in totem, but totem doesnt play in sync ever
[02:58] <graft> dyclops: um... sure, as root... or you ought to be able ot mount it as user, and then it might be owned by the user
[02:58] <shatrat> MotorCityMadMan:  cat /proc/version or something similar I think
[02:58] <DjEvolution> Anyone else that can help me install Joshker?
[02:58] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: File -> import NZB
[02:58] <Dere1> ok, happy place, happy place, OK HERE GOES NOTHING!!!!
[02:59] <CorpseFeeder>  how/where do I get epst module in order to make a HP scanjet 5100c scanner work under Ubuntu edgy?
[02:59] <Drunken_Canuck> shatrat: i dont have an import option
[02:59] <Thug-N-Me> can anyone please have a look and tell me if i added this options to section device in xorg.conf correct http://pastebin.ca/328784 ?
[02:59] <dyclops> So would I edit this in my /etc/fstab file /dev/sdb4       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0     to?
[02:59] <Syco54645> mplayer reports no error, just dies...  xine says audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type: 010600000 or other numbers
[02:59] <jimmy20013> How do you disable the auto dns setting in Ubuntu and make the manually entered DNS address stay?
[02:59] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: what version do you have?
[02:59] <Derek> i dident die!!!
[02:59] <slyfox> Can someone please tell me why this gives me permission to write files fine to windows share:  "D -fstype=smbfs,dmask=777.fmask=777 ://192.168.1.7/D"      and thsi gives me permissiion error?   "D -fstype=cifs,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 ://192.168.1.7/D"  ?
[02:59] <Bakefy> Does anyone know if there is a remote desktop that will allow me to connect to the native windows (xp) remote desktop... from ubuntu?
[02:59] <anika> It's strange cause if you google for Vulture's claw you get a launchpad page but there is no deb :(
[03:00] <Derek> but i cant tell any difference!
[03:00] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: in Help -> About I have version 0.111
[03:00] <graft> dyclops: um, change defaults to 'user,noauto', then unmount it as root, and try mounting it as user
[03:00] <Drunken_Canuck> 0.14.2.91
[03:00] <Derek> how shall i check?
[03:00] <tommckay> DjEvolution: download the tarball, extract it, open up terminal, type cd /where you extracted it/, then type ./configure --prefix=/usr, then make, then sudo make install
[03:00] <shatrat> Derek: You Dere1?
[03:01] <shatrat> Derek: Maintain your happy thoughts and run "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[03:01] <Derek> lol, i was wondering why u where calling me Dere1 lol
[03:01] <shatrat> Drunken_Canuck: I misspoke, I have version 0.119
[03:01] <shatrat> Derek: Thats what your name was before you reconnecte
[03:01] <tommckay> Derek: there was a dere1 in here.
[03:01] <Thug-N-Me> kitche its this correct like this Option          "CacheLines"    "integer"  .. "integer"   or it wil works without value too ?
[03:02] <Derek> thats, totally weird!
[03:02] <mrpurple> graft .. i can erase all from sources.list ? how can i clean it ?
[03:02] <shatra1> I hear it just randomly happens
[03:02] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, it needs a integer like 0 or 1 most likely
[03:02] <shatra1> !sourceomatic
[03:02] <Drunken_Canuck> shatrat: 0.14.2.91
[03:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:02] <Derek> nnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:02] <slyfox> Anyone ?
[03:02] <ugarit_> what's a good IM client besides gaim?
[03:02] <graft> mrpurple: um figure out which repositories you don't need and delete those lines
[03:02] <Derek> it says no direct rendering
[03:02] <anika> Kopete :)
[03:02] <MotorCityMadMan> shatrat: that helped. looking in the sources list dapper main is showing like xmas lights on a dark night
[03:02] <shatra1> Drunken_Canuck: Well, maybe they moved the option.
[03:02] <CorpseFeeder> where is the cryochamber?
[03:02] <ubuntu_> ugarit: kopete
[03:02] <shatra1> Derek:  You are obviously cursed
[03:02] <Thug-N-Me> kitche to enable that option do i need to put value ?
[03:03] <graft> Derek: haha, trying to get direct rendering sucks
[03:03] <Thug-N-Me> for each one ?
[03:03] <graft> Derek: what are you using?
[03:03] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, yes
[03:03] <tommckay> ugarit_: kopete is ugly if you're using gnome.
[03:03] <Thug-N-Me> damm
[03:03] <humblerodent> crimsun: I downloaded and installed that package, and everything went into /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic .... is that actually the kernel source?  I thought it was just drivers and stuff.
[03:03] <tommckay> ugarit_: gaim is the best app for gnome.
[03:03] <Thug-N-Me> dont know how ;(
[03:03] <mrpurple> thank shatra
[03:03] <anika> *k* is ugly if you a using Gnome
[03:03] <ubuntu_> kopete is ugly period
[03:03] <shatra1> no problem mrpurple
[03:03] <tommckay> anika is right ;)
[03:03] <Drunken_Canuck> shatra1: thats what im thinkin but im not seein it, i'll look again
[03:03] <Derek> ATI x1300, and i agree lol, must be a curse lol
[03:03] <mrpurple> thank graft
[03:03] <zigovr3> anyone could help me to remove a package when there is a missing script file necessary to remove the package in the normal way ?
[03:03] <dyclops> done that
[03:03] <ugarit_> tommckay I can't get to make gaim log yyyy-mm-dd it only gives the time
[03:04] <dyclops> i'll reboot
[03:04] <jimmy20013> How do you disable the auto dns setting in Ubuntu and make the manually entered DNS address stay?
[03:04] <shatra1> Derek: try lsmod | grep fglrx
[03:04] <graft> dyclops: don't reboot, not necessary
[03:04] <zigovr3> (in my case python-freevo cannot be uninstalled because it misses one python script in the process)
[03:04] <slyfox> When I copy files via cifs file_mode=0777 from my linux box to my windows shared folder, when the files finishes being copied, I get this message: "Could not change persmissiion for.... and it gives me the file name I jsut copied"   What is that ? How do I fix this ?
[03:04] <crimsun> humblerodent: what package did you just download?
[03:04] <Derek> it dident do anythin
[03:04] <shatra1> Derek: ok, type "modprobe fglrx"
[03:04] <dyclops> graft, i did a umount -a but /data is busy
[03:05] <humblerodent> linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[03:05] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone give me some help with sharing files from Ubuntu to Windows?
[03:05] <humblerodent> @ crimsun
[03:05] <tommckay> ugarit_: its logged into folders with dates, the file itself uses time. beagle can tell the difference
[03:05] <graft> dyclops: well get out of that directory :P
[03:05] <crimsun> humblerodent: you misparsed my directions
[03:05] <shatra1> !samba|phantasyhawk
[03:05] <ubotu> phantasyhawk: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:05] <Derek> "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[03:05] <ugarit_> tommckay what's beagle?
[03:05] <humblerodent> crimsun: that's what it got for  source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:05] <mrpurple> shatra : when it says architecture your computer .. i have a amd 64 .. but think to go 32 .. what i have to put it ?
[03:05] <crimsun> humblerodent: I stated ``apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[03:05] <shatra1> Derek: FATAL are my least favorite kinds of errors.
[03:06] <humblerodent> crimsun: err maybe not, maybe dpkg parses the line differently....
[03:06] <tommckay> !beagle
[03:06] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[03:06] <Derek> same lol, those and the blue screen of death that got me into this whole mess
[03:06] <shatra1> mrpurple: type "uname -r" and the last bit o fthe kernel name tells you the arch
[03:06] <humblerodent> crimsun: hold up a sec.
[03:06] <tommckay> ugarit_: you should use beagle :)
[03:06] <shatra1> Derek: Let me cry and rock back and forth for a sec while I think
[03:06] <CorpseFeeder> FATAK are _my_ least favourite kind of errors.
[03:06] <cypher007> how can i enable port forwarding with my dynamic ip address so that others can access my computer through vnc
[03:07] <tommckay> cypher007: use no-ip
[03:07] <tommckay> !no-ip
[03:07] <ubotu> no-ip: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[03:07] <Derek> lol, ok sharta1
[03:07] <ashayh> hi, I have no sound witha new install of Edgy 2.6.17-10-386 and DFI Nforce4 ultra-D ( nvidia ck804 audio ) .I've checked alsamixer levels with no luck. Any ideas ?
[03:07] <dyclops> graft, so, I edited fstab as you said
[03:07] <dyclops> then did umount -a
[03:08] <dyclops> mount -a
[03:08] <dyclops> tried to edit a file, but no luck
[03:08] <zigovr3> is "apt-get autoremove" usually safe ?
[03:08] <graft> dyclops: who did you do mount -a as?
[03:08] <dyclops> graft, I thried to mount a dyclops
[03:08] <shatra1> Derek: You installed using the first method in that how to you linked right? sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[03:08] <Thug-N-Me> kitche have a look please i changed with values now .. are they right ?
[03:08] <dyclops> graft, but i get : mount: only root can do that
[03:08] <rendo> Does anybody know of any software for Ubuntu that is similar to M$ Frontpage?  I'm looking for some software that can assist in web design.
[03:08] <Thug-N-Me> kitche http://pastebin.ca/328796
[03:08] <zigovr3> I solved my problem with python-freevo by the way, I simply needed to create an empty directory into /usr/share/python-support ...
[03:09] <humblerodent> crimsun: okay, correction, when I run your apt-get command, it says it's getting "linux-source-2.6.17".  but when I "dpkg -l" that package, it says it's not installed.
[03:09] <jimmy20013> How do you disable the auto dns setting in Ubuntu and make the manually entered DNS address stay?
[03:09] <graft> dyclops: um, do mount /data instead
[03:09] <shatra1> uboto tell rendo about bluefish
[03:09] <graft> dyclops: as dyclops
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> rendo: Nvu's worth a look
[03:09] <shatra1> qq
[03:09] <tigafan09> ubuntu is randomly lockin up on me please help
[03:09] <kitche> jimmy20013, don't use dhcp
[03:09] <shatra1> !bluefish|rendo
[03:09] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[03:09] <project_2501> does anyone know how reinstall the sound driver in unbuntu because the sound quit working in my account (but not other accounts)
[03:09] <cypher007> tommckay can u help me with the no-ip, i have a few queries (like how will my vnc server be recognised by my router)
[03:09] <jimmy20013> kitche: I don't want to do that
[03:09] <DjEvolution> tommckay: hmm.
[03:09] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Doesnt seem to be working
[03:10] <kitche> Thug-N-Me, looks good ot me but the lines that your not using you might want to comment them out
[03:10] <DjEvolution> I cant get to m desktop i think
[03:10] <zention> taking bets on when tigafan09's unbuntu will randomly lock again
[03:10] <DjEvolution> i have cd /home /(name) /desktop
[03:10] <crimsun> humblerodent: because you're not installing any package, you're getting the _source_. You must apply the patch to said source, and rebuild the package.
[03:10] <tommckay> cypher007: set up a ssh server and tunnel your vnc through it, because vnc isn't encrypted.
[03:10] <zention> tigafan09: check your log files
[03:10] <tommckay> cypher007: use google, there are guides.
[03:10] <zention> tigafan09: are you runing wireless?
[03:10] <Derek> yessiree bob, i ran it again and it said it was newest
[03:10] <DjEvolution> tommckay: cd /home /(name) /desktop
[03:10] <tigafan09> wifi? its installed but im not using it
[03:10] <mnoir> rendo - look at quanta plus
[03:11] <cypher007> thanks, quick note, i downloaded no-ip via synaptic package manager and now if i type no-ip in console it says it cant find the config file?
[03:11] <zention> tigafan09: sure you are not?
[03:11] <tigafan09> and what logs zention
[03:11] <tigafan09> im connectin to the internet via ethernet cable... very sure
[03:11] <shatra1> Derek: try "lsmod | grep ati" and then try and grep radeon if no ati
[03:11] <zention> tigafan09: systems logs /var/log
[03:11] <tigafan09> but ill disable wifi just to see
[03:11] <tommckay> DjEvolution: look up a guide to installing linux applications from source. I could tell you everything, but then next time you won't be any better off.
[03:11] <PhantasyHawk> Alright, im a bit lost - trying to add a user with smbpasswd and it tells me the user isnt in the UNIX password database.
[03:12] <zention> tigafan09: it is hard to lock a linux system - only seems to happen with hardware drivers
[03:12] <shatrat> PhantasyHawk: I think you can only add users that are users of your Ubuntu install
[03:12] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Well you could tell me now b/c im eager to get this working for tommorow, and when i have some time I will. I just need to get this working
[03:12] <zention> tigafan09: I assume you are experiencing a real lock requiring a reboot
[03:12] <shatrat> PhantasyHawk: Im sure there is an option to change that, but samba makes my allergies act up so I dont dig in the config too much
[03:12] <tigafan09> ya i thought linux ran pretty damn smooth... but on this comp it freezes up randomly
[03:13] <tigafan09> ya i have to hard restart
[03:13] <humblerodent> crimsun: oh, so if I download the BadRAM patch, apply it to the source I just downloaded, and then compile that source (using some sort of dpkg-source command that I'll figure out from the man pages, I assume?) then it will be installed?
[03:13] <tux1980> \\\||\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[03:13] <shatrat> tigafan09: thats probably drivers, probably video drivers to be specific
[03:13] <zention> tigafan09: machine?
[03:13] <misha> how can I boot into the shell without xwindows?
[03:13] <zention> tigafan09: laptop desktop?
[03:13] <Thug-N-Me> kitche ok , thanks
[03:13] <PhantasyHawk> shatrat: that did it - thanks a ton
[03:13] <tommckay> DjEvolution: i told you what you need to do, do write cp in terminal, space, then drag the folder you extracted into it and press enter. then follow the rest of my directions.
[03:13] <humblerodent> crimsun: sorry, I know I'm a n00b in kernel compiling :(
[03:13] <CorpseFeeder> how/where do I get/create epst module in order to make a HP scanjet 5100c scanner work under Ubuntu edgy?
[03:13] <DjEvolution> okay
[03:13] <shatrat> PhantasyHawk: you're welcome, enjoy
[03:13] <Derek> shatrat1: it shows some info when i typed comand, its kinda cryptic, what am i looking for?
[03:13] <tigafan09> desktop.. rather high end so i wouldnt doubt itd be drivers
[03:14] <tigafan09> but which one
[03:14] <crimsun> humblerodent: it will generate a deb that you can install, yes.
[03:14] <dyclops> graft, works - thankyou. Shout you a beer for Australia Day
[03:14] <zention> tigafan09: anyway it will be hard to track through logs - often people have to put debugging on in the kernel
[03:14] <humblerodent> crimsun: ah, okay.
[03:14] <anika> oh can anyone recieve custom Smileys on MSN?
[03:14] <graft> dyclops: sweet.
[03:14] <shatrat> Derek: which one? For "grep ati"?
[03:14] <DjEvolution> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:14] <anika> using GAIM?
[03:14] <tigafan09> it would freeze before i installed ati drivers so i dont think its vid card drivers
[03:14] <graft> anika: nope, those are your own custom smileys
[03:14] <tigafan09> how to i put debugging on then
[03:14] <graft> anika: everyone else sees the same boring ones
[03:15] <shatrat> tigafan09: ATI video card drivers make george bush look competent.
[03:15] <zention> tigafan09: best way to work out what the problem area is understand what you are running when it happens
[03:15] <Vandalay> lol
[03:15] <Derek> grep ati
[03:15] <tigafan09> its just random things
[03:15] <shatrat> Im pretty sure bush has a higher approval rating in Iraq than ATI has in linux
[03:15] <tigafan09> sumtimes not running anything
[03:15] <anika> graft: Not sure I understand
[03:15] <njal> what package provides the command 'export'?
[03:15] <tommckay> shatrat: edgy has better support with open drivers.
[03:15] <zention> ati drivers are fine
[03:15] <anika> graft: You know people can create a custom smileywith MSN and transmit them?
[03:16] <graft> anika: oh, i thought you're talking about gaim smiley skins
[03:16] <zention> tigafan09: now wirless drivers are not though
[03:16] <tigafan09> so what should i try to do
[03:16] <anika> No the MSN smileys
[03:16] <zention> tigafan09: and obvioulsy not all wireless drivers
[03:16] <anika> I keep getting a box with an X
[03:16] <graft> anika: never used msn...
[03:16] <mrpurple> there is a list of the command line ?
[03:16] <graft> anika: actually never really used smileys
[03:16] <humblerodent> crimsun: patch -p1 < badram-patch-file | do I have that right?
[03:16] <shatrat> Derek: The module for the open source drivers is still loaded, probably what is keeping fglrx from loading.  Not sure what happens when you forcibly remove a kernel module that does video...might be safer to just reboot and hope ati doesnt load and fglrx does :)
[03:16] <graft> mrpurple: hit tab twice
[03:16] <anika> I've seen people get the smileys on GAim so I want to find out what's wrong
[03:16] <zention> ati is just awkward to install correctly
[03:17] <tigafan09> in network settings it says "this network interface is not configured"
[03:17] <shatrat> fglrx has less image quality and performance than nvidia even if you do get it working
[03:17] <Derek> Shatrat: lol/ok, ill reeboot.
[03:17] <zention> tigafan09: the rt2500 set is particularly good at locking a system
[03:17] <shifteh> is the Ext2 Installable File System for Windows good ?
[03:17] <AnRkey> how can i get ubuntu to detect my Promise SX4060 raid card so that I can install the os?
[03:17] <tigafan09> my wifi is built into my mobo
[03:17] <shatrat> shifteh: you mean fs-driver.org? Yeah I use it all the time
[03:18] <tigafan09> asus p5w
[03:18] <zention> AnRkey: use Knoppix?
[03:18] <graft> i remember a few years back the situation was the other way around... everyone loved ATI for being so linux-friendly and muttered about nvidia
[03:18] <DjEvolution> tommckay: me@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cd /home/me/desktop./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:18] <DjEvolution> bash: cd: /home/medesktop./configure: No such file or directory
[03:18] <AnRkey> zention: use knoppix?
[03:18] <njal> erm does ubuntu have the export command?
[03:18] <shatrat> graft: thats quite a while ago, the 8500 and earlier era.
[03:18] <mrpurple> once changed the sources.list ..
[03:18] <AnRkey> zention: don't understand
[03:18] <mrpurple> how update it ?
[03:18] <graft> shatrat: <== old skool
[03:18] <tigafan09> should i try removing the device
[03:19] <zention> AnRkey: use knoppix to see if that will detect your drive
[03:19] <kitche> njal, export is part of bash so yes
[03:19] <tommckay> DjEvolution: no cd to the jokosher folder.
[03:19] <AnRkey> and if it does?
[03:19] <zention> AnRkey: then fire off the unbuntu installer
[03:19] <kitche> njal, export is a built in function in the bash shell
[03:19] <shatrat> graft: even back then they didnt open them up until almost after they phased the hardware out of production.  I still prefered my tnt2 in linux to the radeon I replaced it with
[03:19] <mnoir> njal: to export what?
[03:19] <tommckay> DjEvolution: i suggest you take my advice and read some linux guides, they'll help you out a lot doing day to day things.
[03:19] <njal> kitch: And bash is included in server?
[03:19] <AnRkey> zention: fire off the ubuntu installer from knoppix? how do i do that?
[03:20] <AnRkey> zention: u have my full attention...
[03:20] <kitche> njal, bash is the shell that ubuntu uses it has dash installed as well
[03:20] <njal> because I need to run export $xxx /xxx/xxx
[03:20] <njal> and i keep getting command not found
[03:20] <njal> even man export produces nothing
[03:20] <zention> AnRkey: ok you could do a network install
[03:20] <tigafan09> everyone gave up on me?
[03:20] <jrib> njal: help export
[03:21] <shatrat> sorry, 1 sec
[03:21] <zention> AnRkey: you should be able to umount the knoppix cd and do then locate the installer on the ubuntu cd if you have only one cd in the system
[03:21] <mortal5> hi everyone, I made a boo boo with my sources.list, is there anywhere I can get a vanilla copy?
[03:21] <mnoir> njal: what are you trying to do - the thing you typed does not make sense
[03:21] <shatrat> !wireless|tigafan
[03:21] <ubotu> tigafan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:21] <jrib> njal: since "type export" informs you that "export" is a shell built-in :)
[03:21] <zention> AnRkey: you could use another system and mount that to the knoppix system shfs would help
[03:21] <zention> AnRkey: but first see if Knoppix detects it
[03:21] <kitche> njal,  export VAR=<what you want the var to hold>
[03:22] <riotkittie> !easysource
[03:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:22] <AnRkey> gonna try that thanks zention
[03:22] <shatrat> tigafan09: basically you need to find out what wireless chipset is in your board and look for a how to, youre probably gonna need some firmware and maybe ndiswrapper
[03:22] <zention> tigafan09: lspic
[03:22] <zention> tigafan09: lspci
[03:22] <riotkittie> mortal5: follow the link ubotu just posted :P
[03:22] <sBForum> hi all
[03:22] <shatrat> hi
[03:23] <mortal5> well, you see i'm using xubuntu
[03:23] <njal> ok so now got it working with export -p export says no command export -p works, but it says the directory i link to is not valid, I know it's not, but it will be in the next step, does the directory HAVE to exist?
[03:23] <mortal5> I was hoping i could pull an original copy off the cd
[03:23] <sBForum> can anyone help me booting from ubuntu :( ?
[03:23] <tigafan09> ok
[03:23] <shatrat> njal: create teh directory first, then link to it
[03:23] <tigafan09> will try that
[03:23] <Derek> hio
[03:24] <shatrat> sBForum: booting from the install disk? could you be more specific
[03:24] <jrib> njal: what are you trying to do?
[03:24] <zention> tigafan09: that will show you the pci devices now you have not mentioned yet if this is a laptop or not
[03:24] <shatrat> Derek: Hi.  glxinfo | grep rendering?
[03:24] <sBForum> shatrat , can we go private ?????????
[03:24] <njal> not a valid identifier
[03:24] <shatrat> ooh, how romantic
[03:24] <shatrat> sBForum: join #shatrat
[03:24] <sBForum> ok
[03:24] <zention> tigafan09: there are usb embedded wireless often found in clevo style laptops
[03:24] <njal> ok I am learning about Linux and how it works using the LFS tutorial using ubuntu for the base system in a virtual environment
[03:25] <zention> tigafan09: so you may have to use lsusb instead
[03:25] <kitche> njal, you reading the book since it is straight forward you know
[03:25] <njal> and i need to run export LFS=/mnt/lfs then mkdir -pv $LFS followed by mount -v -t ext3 /dev/<xxx> $LFS
[03:25] <Toran> OK, so I installed amarok in xubuntu with aptitude and it's core dumping on me when I try to start it. Anyone know how to fix that?
[03:25] <Derek> god !@#$ing D!@#it
[03:25] <Derek> ok, im dont lol
[03:25] <zention> njal: there is a #lfs channel
[03:25] <Derek> done*
[03:25] <Derek> ya, it dident work
[03:25] <njal> yeah sure the book is striaght forward until things don't work as expected, yeah there is an lfs channel, but atm am only prepairing ubuntu
[03:25] <jrib> njal: and what goes wrong?
[03:26] <b14ck73425> can somebody help me with minicom
[03:26] <kitche> zenit, yeah #lfs is not the official channel for it though
[03:26] <shatrat> Derek: check and see if the ati module is running? we may have to add it to the list of banned modules, or whatever thats called
[03:26] <tigafan09> its a desktop
[03:26] <njal> bash: export /mnt/lfs not a valid identifier
[03:26] <Cryoniq> Anyone have SB Audigy LS and got it to work with Microphone and all in Teamspeak (this is driving me crazy soon.. =/ )
[03:26] <jrib> njal: paste your command
[03:27] <jrib> exactly as you entered it
[03:27] <kitche> jrib, think that is how he entered it
[03:27] <kitche> njal, it's export LFS=/mnt/lfs then mkdir -p #LFS
[03:27] <kitche> njal, it's $ not #
[03:27] <zention> tigafan09: well from my experince with these locks you end up having to wait on updated drivers - or old working drivers once oyu have determined what causes the problem
[03:28] <njal> oh wait, ok now i just feel stupid, I had been adding $ alright, sorry to bother you folks, my error
[03:28] <Drunken_Canuck> anyone know how to download nzb files in pan?
[03:29] <b14ck73425> can somebody help me with minicom
[03:29] <CanadianMan__> can i ask about installing w32codecs or is that not allowed?
[03:29] <jrib> !w32codecs | CanadianMan__
[03:29] <ubotu> CanadianMan__: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[03:29] <jrib> CanadianMan__: you just did :P
[03:30] <morphius> I am tryig to set up my computer as a router using dhcp3-server and iptables. I have two interfaces, serving two different physical subnets, all on one vitrual subnet (192.168.0.x). I can obtain dhcp OK on either, but I can only get internet on one. I'm sure I have IPtables configured correctly. The only way to get internet on the other (I tried copying the rules using cut and paste, or simply switching the interfaces on the rules), b
[03:30] <morphius> way to get internet on the one which is not recieveing internet requires I physically swap the pci slots to get service. Then the other physical subnet won't work. Any ideas why I can only get one at a time going?
[03:30] <anika> Anyone uses MSN?
[03:31] <anika> With GAIM?
[03:31] <jrib> !anyone | anika
[03:31] <ubotu> anika: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:31] <tigafan09> did lspci... dont see anything that looks like a wifi card r w/e
[03:31] <anika> oh can anyone recieve custom Smileys on MSN?
[03:31] <anika> Cause I can't
[03:31] <Derek> how to i check and see if the ati module is running?
[03:31] <riotkittie> ooh i need to log in to my msn account. god forbid they delete my hotmail account and i lose all my spam.
[03:31] <DjEvolution> tommckay: It says the directory for the config doesnt exist
[03:32] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Am I missing something?
[03:32] <zention> tigafan09: try lusbs
[03:32] <shifteh> is Linux the future :x :p
[03:32] <zention> tigafan09: try lsusb (not sure how that s jumped)
[03:32] <anika> riotkittie: have anyone who has a Windows MSN client on your list?
[03:32] <NetLarIrvine> Is Breezy the latest versioi?
[03:32] <anika> Edgy is
[03:32] <riotkittie> anika: nope.
[03:32] <jrib> NetLarIrvine: no, it was followed by dapper and then edgy
[03:32] <Spiegel-GameComp> I am looking for a linux build for a old 450mhz AMD K6-2 laptop and I am wondering if Unbuntu would run properly and if not what other linuxes would most likely work.
[03:33] <anika> riotkittie: Blast
[03:33] <NetLarIrvine> opps ok
[03:33] <zention> tigafan09: the problem is very annoying when it happens so I understand your dilemma but you will have to dig around to solve this one
[03:33] <anika> Spiegel-GameComp: try Vector Linux
[03:33] <kitche> Spiegel-GameComp, what ram
[03:33] <tommckay> DjEvolution: once you cd'd to the folder, type ./configure --prefix=/usr with the "."
[03:33] <Spiegel-GameComp> 128 if i remember correctly
[03:33] <riotkittie> or zenwalk.
[03:34] <riotkittie> or ubuntu with flux or openbox or another lightweight wm
[03:34] <misha> I am willing to hit someone's Amazon wish list if they can help me with my display problem
[03:34] <jojoman02> are there any gui for FSTAB editing?
[03:34] <zention> misha no need for bribery just say what the problem is
[03:34] <DjEvolution> tommckay: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:34] <DjEvolution> emin@ubuntu:~/Jokosher$
[03:34] <kitche> jojoman02, any gui editor can do it
[03:35] <Spiegel-GameComp> I think i have the specs right now, 450 Mhz K6-2, 128 MB ram, and  4Mb vid ram
[03:35] <chiarato> hi, I have ubuntu edgy 6.10 I can't download and install beryl $ sudo apt-get install beryl emerald-themes ???
[03:35] <jojoman02> kitche, i meant a gui fstab editor, not a text editor... something a newbie can do...
[03:35] <riotkittie> DjEvolution: do you have build-essential installed?
[03:35] <aardfox> how do i kill an application that wont close?
[03:35] <tommckay> DjEvolution: try ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
[03:35] <misha> The problem is that the display does not update properly.  The screen is littered with old menus and windows, new objects dont' appear unless I move the mouse over them,,, I have a screenshot if necessary.  The screensaver works fine.
[03:35] <Goldmen> Any clue how mich space a linux partition might take up?
[03:35] <sidny4> aardfox: killall application_name
[03:35] <mwalsh> goldmen: abou 3gb
[03:35] <zention> jojoman02: shoud they really be messing with the fstab if they don't want to learn a few options
[03:35] <jrib> jojoman02: pysdm maybe (I haven't tried it personally)
[03:35] <Taime1> is this enough to run the livecd install?:  pentium III 448 ram?
[03:36] <riotkittie> jojoman02: newbies can edit fstab. its simple - if you need help, !pastebin it and ask for guidence here
[03:36] <mwalsh> taime
[03:36] <chiarato> this is what I get E: Couldn't find package beryl
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> Taime1: I think so.
[03:36] <Goldmen> mwalsh: Really thats it?
[03:36] <misha> I have a AMD3100 with onboard video, no video card
[03:36] <mwalsh> taime1:absolutely
[03:36] <b14ck73425> im trying to set up minicom, can anyone help me?
[03:36] <mwalsh> goldmen: yeah, but id leav 5, just in case
[03:36] <Taime1> then what am i doing wrong? haha
[03:36] <DjEvolution> tommckay: Is that supposed to be link?
[03:36] <zention> misha: ok desktop environment / window manager
[03:36] <riotkittie> Taime1: is the live disc not loading, or what ?
[03:36] <zention> misha : and video card specs
[03:36] <Derek> shatrat: do you meen the blacklist thingy?
[03:36] <Taime1> its just unbelieveably sluggish
[03:37] <riotkittie> Taime1: edgy ?
[03:37] <Goldmen> If I use a partition can I access my windows files, like ooo documents
[03:37] <Taime1> yeah
[03:37] <misha> zention: just a sec.. and thanks
[03:37] <chiarato> I think maybe the package may be down!!
[03:37] <riotkittie> Taime1: have you made it to the desktop yet?  well, i assume so as youre here. then again, you could be using a 2nd pc
[03:37] <mwalsh> DOes anyone know why I don't have permissions to write to my own hard drive?
[03:37] <jrib> !beryl | chiarato
[03:37] <ubotu> chiarato: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:37] <Taime1> i make it to desktop
[03:37] <jrib> mwalsh: what filesystem?
[03:37] <shatrat> Derek: That's what I mean
[03:38] <Chousuke> mwalsh: the default user only has access to /home/username
[03:38] <kitche> mwalsh, well you do but everything is owned by root but your user's home directory
[03:38] <mwalsh> jrib: ntfs
[03:38] <Derek> well, how would we blacklist it?
[03:38] <mwalsh> How do I get permanent root access then?
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs | mwalsh
[03:38] <ubotu> mwalsh: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:38] <mwalsh> \I can view them tony
[03:38] <Derek> i have the file open
[03:38] <zention> misha: now any gui application can do this so is it specific to one application or do all exhibit it?
[03:38] <jrib> mwalsh: mount with a proper umask, see table that talks about "umasK" in the link ubotu just gave you
[03:38] <shatrat> Derek: I know some installation instructions have you blacklist them from the start.  One moment.
[03:38] <Goldmen> Sorry, last question, If a ubuntu partition doesn't work out is it difficult to uninstall?
[03:38] <DjEvolution> tommckay: is that a link?
[03:38] <Derek> ok
[03:39] <mwalsh> goldmen: no
[03:39] <Akuma_> where can i find the settings if i want to send my monitor's image to a tv through s-video?
[03:39] <zention> misha: your resolution may be set too high so drop that first ctral alt+ will cycle through those in the X config file
[03:39] <shifteh> Goldmen : just reformat the partition
[03:39] <CanadianMan__> i can't get w32codes installed (E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate) i've edited my sources.list and sudo apt-get update.
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> mwalsh: Writing to ntfs is not safe, but if you don't care about your data, you can use either of the methods ubotu mentioned.
[03:39] <zention> misha *ctrl
[03:39] <Goldmen> Great! Thx alot everyone I think I'll give it a try
[03:39] <jrib> CanadianMan__: did you add seveas' repo?
[03:39] <Taime1> so i dont know... maybe there is a boot option that would allow it to run a tad bit faster?
[03:39] <misha> zention: everything, except the login screen and the screensaver
[03:39] <jrib> Akuma_: nvidia tvout?
[03:39] <mwalsh> !ntfs-3g | mwalsh
[03:39] <zention> misha: disable the screensaver
[03:39] <ubotu> mwalsh: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:40] <shifteh> damn, linux, mac and windows should agree on a universe file system standard :x
[03:40] <zention> misha: are you running any daemons that you need not run?
[03:40] <Akuma_> jrib: i don't have an nvidia card ..
[03:40] <Chousuke> mwalsh: permanent root access is a _very_ bad idea.
[03:40] <mwalsh> chousuke: why is that
[03:40] <shatrat> Derek: you need to put it in the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:40] <mwalsh> !fuse | mwalsh
[03:40] <ubotu> mwalsh: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:40] <zention> misha: you see this happens often due to a performance problem something is just eating cpu cycles
[03:40] <Smirnov> is there a way to specify the size of a window when launching a program via command line?
[03:40] <riotkittie> CanadianMan__: did you add that repo to your sources list, and then sudo apt-get update?
[03:40] <jrib> Akuma_: k
[03:40] <misha> this is a new install, I am not runnign anything I'm just trying to get my system up
[03:40] <zention> Smirnov: yes
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> Smirnov: No need - we just need open standards for all used.
[03:40] <Smirnov> zention, how
[03:41] <Chousuke> mwalsh: because then every little vulnerability in your system can lead to the entire system being hosed.
[03:41] <zention> Smirnov: wmctrl or .Xdefaults can do it
[03:41] <CanadianMan__> jrib, yes i did
[03:41] <Smirnov> zention, thanks
[03:41] <misha> zention: where is desktop environment... you don;t mean background, right?
[03:41] <shatrat> shifteh: that doesn't appeal to people who don't want people to be able to switch to their competitors products
[03:41] <Chousuke> mwalsh: also, you're more likely to break things you shouldn't even be able to touch
[03:41] <jrib> CanadianMan__: did you run 'sudo apt-get update' like riotkittie suggested?
[03:41] <mwalsh> chousuke: true
[03:41] <aardfox> and are there any installers for Ubuntu that dont make me use the command line when i want to open/install a bin file, a sh, etc?
[03:41] <zention> Smirnov: wmctrl works on most systems - .Xdefault(s) works with applications that use that feature some apps even allow dimension to be passed as an option
[03:41] <Chousuke> mwalsh: and anyone who has access to your computer while you're away can just do rm -rf /
[03:41] <CanadianMan__> jrib, yes i did
[03:41] <Chousuke> hm
[03:42] <mwalsh> so i shouldnt even write to ntfs? because i need to burn this cd but ubuntu doesnt recognize my drives
[03:42] <jrib> CanadianMan__: pastebin your sources.list
[03:42] <humblerodent> crimsun: I decided to download the kernel source from kernel.org instead....easier for me....anyway, if my kernel version as reported by uname is 2.6.17-10, would the package on kernel.org called 2.6.17.10 be right?  note the change from the dash to the period....
[03:42] <Smirnov> zention, when i launc this prog it lets me rsize it like a normal X app, but theres no dimension options for the prog itself *sigh*
[03:42] <CanadianMan__> jrib, excuse me?
[03:42] <zention> misha: gnome, kde are enviroments, fluxbox opend box are window managers
[03:42] <jrib> aardfox: that's entirely dependent on the bin files
[03:42] <crimsun> humblerodent: you're not at all concerned with Ubuntu source if you use vanilla kernel.org source
[03:42] <shatrat> !paste | candianman
[03:42] <ubotu> candianman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:42] <zention> Smirnov: application?
[03:42] <shifteh> it is safe to use windows to write to a ext2 fs ?
[03:42] <Smirnov> zention, snes9x
[03:43] <jrib> !ext3 | shifteh
[03:43] <ubotu> shifteh: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:43] <zention> Smirnov: I would use wmctrl
[03:43] <Munchkinguy> Is there some application that I can use to change what kind of monitor the computer thinks I have?
[03:43] <shatrat> shifteh: you can write to ext2 and ext3 with fs-driver.org
[03:43] <humblerodent> crimsun: I'm following a "The Ubuntu way" guide o_O
[03:43] <shifteh> yea i noe, it is safe rite ?
[03:43] <Derek> shatrat: ok, im here, where do i put what?
[03:43] <riotkittie> aardfox: you can execute them from nautilus, i suppose
[03:43] <zention> Munchkinguy: yes a text editor
[03:43] <jrib> shifteh: I've had no problems with it
[03:43] <aardfox> ok
[03:43] <humblerodent> crimsun: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[03:43] <Chousuke> mwalsh: you can give your regular user permission to write to NTFS.
[03:43] <shatrat> Derek: Yousee /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common has a line that says DISABLE_MODULES= or something?
[03:43] <wastrel> hi
[03:43] <CanadianMan__> jrib, ok one sec
[03:43] <mwalsh> Chousuke: I tried the ntfs-3g thing, didnt work
[03:43] <Chousuke> mwalsh: though writing is only possible with ntfs-3g
[03:43] <aardfox> riotkittie: is that the file explorer? 'cause that doesnt seem to work
[03:43] <Smirnov> zention, will try it thanks
[03:44] <Munchkinguy> zention: Fedora made it easy.
[03:44] <Chousuke> reading is with all drivers.
[03:44] <shifteh> should i enable the large file feature?
[03:44] <mwalsh> Chousuke: YOu think you could tell me how to get my dvd burners working on Ubuntu
[03:44] <zention> Smirnov: now to make it work you call the app with a & after it
[03:44] <Chousuke> mwalsh: did you set the permission masks properly?
[03:44] <Chousuke> mwalsh: it isn't autodetected?
[03:44] <zention> Smirnov: that will then allow wmctrl to run its command
[03:44] <mwalsh> Chousuke: no, most of my hardware isnt, i think its too new... ubuntu has been suckign in that regard
[03:44] <Derek> shatrat: ok, i see that
[03:45] <shatrat> Derek: add "ati"
[03:46] <Chousuke> mwalsh: hmm :/
[03:46] <coolfinalfan> so what file do I need to use for the installation of Avast for Linux, the TAR file or the Debian file? Thanks!!
[03:46] <zention> Munchkinguy: there probably is some graphical thing for it sax2 is sometimes used
[03:46] <CanadianMan__> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2940/
[03:46] <Smirnov> zention, ok im reading the manpage now
[03:46] <Chousuke> mwalsh: I have to go to sleep now though.
[03:46] <ConstyXIV> can you rearrange the title bar buttons in gnome?
[03:46] <wastrel> what's avast?
[03:46] <zention> Smirnov: wmctrl -l
[03:46] <Chousuke> mwalsh: maybe someone else can help you
[03:46] <mwalsh> CHousuke: moount: no media found
[03:46] <coolfinalfan> anti virus
[03:46] <sidny4> coolfinalfan: I'd use the .deb file
[03:46] <mwalsh> ok thakns anyway
[03:46] <wastrel> ConstyXIV:  yes
[03:46] <rodney_> anyone know much about setting up agere lucent modems
[03:46] <coolfinalfan> thanks sidney
[03:46] <ConstyXIV> wastrel: how?
[03:46] <Chousuke> mwalsh: you don't mount empty dvds
[03:46] <zention> Smirnov: you need the name of the window then another switch change geometry
[03:46] <b14ck73425> does anyone know anything about zmodem
[03:46] <eternaljoy> can I get a USB adsl modem to work under Ubuntu?
[03:46] <mwalsh> chousuke: the drive doesnt work thoug, it wont let me burn
[03:47] <kitche> rodney_, hmm winmodems think there might be a wiki page on it let me check
[03:47] <Chousuke> hm.
[03:47] <jrib> CanadianMan__: what architecture?
[03:47] <Chousuke> well I don't know anything about that
[03:47] <sBForum> kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init . can anyone help ? ^o)
[03:47] <dsa9> should i enable large file feature on the ext2 fs
[03:47] <Derek> shatrat: done, do i reeboot?
[03:47] <dsa9> the drivers?
[03:47] <Chousuke> now, sleep is needed
[03:47] <coolfinalfan> wow this Ubuntu is pretty kool and I'm getting used to the user interface
[03:47] <wastrel> ConstyXIV:  configuration-editor  apps > metacity > general > button_layout
[03:47] <Chousuke> good night.
[03:47] <shatrat> Derek: and think happy thoughts
[03:47] <kitche> rodney_, check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:47] <rodney_> thanks kitche
[03:47] <CanadianMan__> jrib, i'm sorry what?
[03:47] <zention> misha: spec of machine is important as well if you are using some very old hardware do say
[03:47] <b14ck73425> or minicom
[03:47] <jrib> CanadianMan__: i386 or amd64?
[03:47] <wastrel> sorry ConstyXIV gconf-editor
[03:47] <CanadianMan__> jrib, edgy 64 bit i'm sorry
[03:47] <sBForum> kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init . can anyone help ?
[03:48] <jrib> CanadianMan__: w32codecs is only for i386
[03:48] <dsa9> enable large file for fs-drivers.org ?
[03:48] <zention> misha: bar all of that then it sounds like you should update the toolkit (I would advise an update of X and Gnome)
[03:48] <Derek> ok, here goes nothing, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:48] <CanadianMan__> jrib, ahhhhhh ty very much so nothing for 64 users?
[03:48] <rodney_> i read the how to on modems but ive got 1 file that want act correctly
[03:48] <Smirnov> zention, are you supposed to modify the program after you run it
[03:48] <zention> misha: if you still experience the problem then you will have to get into the X configuration file
[03:48] <sBForum> kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init . can anyone help ?
[03:48] <jrib> CanadianMan__: check the restricted formats wiki page, there are usually some workarounds
[03:48] <dsa9> enable large file for fs-drivers.org ? <--- ?
[03:48] <yunhual> hello, when i install oracal, i got error message with swap partition too small, can i adjust my partition without any data lossing?
[03:48] <jrib> !restricted | CanadianMan__
[03:48] <ubotu> CanadianMan__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <dsa9> ubuntu support large files ?
[03:49] <dsa9> !large files
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about large files - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <CanadianMan__> jrib, thank you
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> wastrel: thanks
[03:49] <sBForum> kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init . can anyone help ?
[03:49] <kitche> sBForum, more information is needed like what did you do is this a fresh install?
[03:49] <dredhammer> hello i am trying to compile ffmpeg with X264 support but even with libx264-dev installed and x264 ffmpeg SVN says it can't find x264
[03:49] <shatrat> hi Derek
[03:49] <zention> Smirnov: the program does not control the size of window it is in, it reacts to the change in size
[03:49] <Derek> hi shatrat
[03:49] <shatrat> Tell me the great news
[03:49] <jrib> CanadianMan__: if you are interested in multimedia stuff, you are better off installing i386 imo
[03:49] <adamonline45> sBForum: is this at boot?
[03:49] <Derek> whats that command again?
[03:49] <zention> Smirnov: or should do of course, so wmctrl is like pressing the close button or resize handles on the window
[03:49] <Munchkinguy> thanks
[03:49] <coolfinalfan> alrite , going back to learning this new OS > Ubuntu its pretty kool Mite not ever go back to Windows platforms!!!
[03:49] <Smirnov> zention, hmm i type in wmctrl -l and i dont get the prog that im running (snes9x)
[03:49] <sBForum> adamonline45: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:49] <shatrat> Derek: glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:49] <Derek> thank you
[03:50] <mwalsh> WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:50] <CanadianMan__> jrib, ahhhhhhh thank you very much
[03:50] <keithhhhh> can anyone direct me to a good xgl link.... I cant figure out how to do any of the fancy effects.....I think I installed it
[03:50] <zention> Smirnov: what do you get
[03:50] <Derek> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:50] <mwalsh> !xgl | kiethhhhh
[03:50] <ubotu> kiethhhhh: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:50] <shatrat> keithhhhh: theres a channel for that, #ubuntu-xgl I believe
[03:50] <kitche> keithhhhh, you need beryl or compiz installed also
[03:50] <zention> Smirnov: wmctrl -l will show the title on the window
[03:50] <Derek> it no worky
[03:50] <Smirnov> zention, bottom expanded edge panel, top expanded edge panel, desktop, a shell window, and a file browser
[03:50] <tigafan09> how do i run an "install" file
[03:51] <zention> Smirnov: is the application running
[03:51] <mwalsh> Derek: wats wrong
[03:51] <Smirnov> zenit, yep
[03:51] <Smirnov> zention, yep
[03:51] <adamonline45> sBForum: Sorry, then, I have a suggestion if it were at boot...  :/
[03:51] <jrib> tigafan09: ./install  in the right directory?  What are you trying to install?
[03:51] <kitche> tigafan09, most work with sh <install file> works for .sh and .bin
[03:51] <tigafan09> drivers
[03:51] <shatrat> Derek: You might want to try the by-hand method from the how-to
[03:51] <Derek> graphics card dont worky
[03:51] <keithhhhh> kitche: I have beryl and xgl
[03:51] <Derek> ok...
[03:51] <zention> Smirnov: hmmm odd, well wmctrl is meant to be compliant with gnome (or actually the other way)
[03:52] <sBForum> people , can't anyone help me :( ?
[03:52] <Smirnov> zention, i cant even see the xchat im talking to you right now
[03:52] <mwalsh> Can anyone help me at all?
[03:52] <zention> Smirnov: hmmm maybe gnome is going something
[03:52] <SuMarDi> hi there
[03:52] <mwalsh> WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:52] <tigafan09> ./install gives me permission denied sudo ./install gives me command not found
[03:52] <zention> Smirnov: single monitor setup?
[03:52] <SuMarDi> anyone know how to fix eclipse (with subclipse) failed to start?
[03:52] <kitche> sBForum, more information is needed on what you did before you got that error
[03:52] <zention> Smirnov: or dual
[03:52] <Smirnov> zention, dual
[03:53] <SuMarDi> i google it seems like failed at libapr0
[03:53] <kitche> tigafan09, you sure there is a install file
[03:53] <rodney_> kitche ive done everything it says but the file etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules doesnt have the blue sqare box on it like the rest of the rules in the rule.d file has
[03:53] <SuMarDi> any help?
[03:53] <wastrel> mwalsh:  what application are you using?
[03:53] <mwalsh> WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:53] <tigafan09> very
[03:53] <Derek> ok, i geuss ill try that, again
[03:53] <zention> Smirnov: well shucks thanks for mentioning run it on the same display
[03:53] <jrib> tigafan09: is it executable?
[03:53] <chiarato> how do I know whether I have Ubuntu Edgy 64 bit or 32 bit???
[03:53] <tigafan09> how do i tell
[03:53] <Smirnov> zention, hmm? i am
[03:53] <sBForum> kitche: a new fresh installation .. i mean just trying to boot ... with noacpi , ide=nodma, irqpoll as shatrat told me ...
[03:53] <jrib> tigafan09: chmod +x foo   will make it executable
[03:53] <zention> Smirnov: Xinerama
[03:53] <shatrat> chiarato: type "uname -r" in console
[03:53] <b14ck73425> can anyone help me with minicom
[03:53] <Smirnov> zention, whats that?
[03:54] <kitche> rodney_, hmm what blue box for what editor?
[03:54] <jrib> tigafan09: you can tell with  ls -l foo
[03:54] <bruenig> !info xinerama
[03:54] <ubotu> Package xinerama does not exist in any distro I know
[03:54] <bruenig> !xinerama
[03:54] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:54] <rodney_> not the editor the file
[03:54] <mwalsh> WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:54] <zention> Smirnov: Xinerama is well someone got it
[03:54] <kitche> sBForum, I would try and remove some of those options from grub with the live cd and mounting the filesystem that you install grub to
[03:54] <zention> Smirnov: or you can set up a dual head display just using X
[03:54] <Smirnov> zention, not sure if i use that, i just edited my xorg.conf to have 2 screens
[03:54] <tigafan09> foo?
[03:54] <zention> Smirnov: ok well wmctrl will only report on each host by default
[03:55] <bruenig> tigafan09, replace foo with whatever you are trying to chmod
[03:55] <kitche> rodney_, umm those files shouldn't have a blue box in them since they are just text files probably the blue box is used to show you what is needed to be editted
[03:55] <sBForum> kitche: am sorry cuz am new to linux at all .. what shall i do now ?
[03:55] <chiarato> shatrat: this is what I got?? 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:55] <adamonline45> sBForum: I thought you said it wasn't at boot?
[03:55] <tigafan09> ok it works now thanks!
[03:55] <zention> Smirnov: open the snesxx window on the same display as the shell
[03:55] <wastrel> mwalsh:  what application are you using?
[03:55] <mwalsh> WHen I try to write a .iso file "to disk," only a write to image option is listed, not one of my drives. Can anyone help me with this?
[03:55] <mwalsh> wastrel: right click
[03:55] <rodney_> kitche like the file in rules.d cd-aliases.rules has a blue box top right corner with a white arrow
[03:55] <Smirnov> zention, thats exactly what i did
[03:55] <chiarato> shatrat: where does it say 32 or 64?
[03:55] <Smirnov> zention, i ran it with & at the end
[03:55] <shatrat> chiarato: I believe generic is 386
[03:55] <adamonline45> sBForum: scroll down to the first gray box: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm
[03:56] <adamonline45> sBForum: just a possibility...
[03:56] <zention> Smirnov: ok open firefox on that display
[03:56] <wastrel> mwalsh:  you want to burn it to CD or DVD?
[03:56] <zention> Smirnov: then do it again
[03:56] <chiarato> shatrat: sorry I'm new at this which means??
[03:56] <bruenig> mwalsh, what kind of iso is it cd or dvd
[03:56] <kitche> rodney_, what editor are you using? gedit?
[03:56] <mwalsh> wastrel: cd
[03:56] <rodney_> no
[03:56] <mwalsh> bruenig: iso
[03:56] <sBForum> adamonline45: thank u i'll have a look
[03:56] <Smirnov> zention, i dont get firefox either
[03:56] <mwalsh> bruenig: hello again :)
[03:56] <shatrat> chiarato: ah sorry, 386 is 32, amd386_64 would be 64
[03:56] <bruenig> mwalsh, cdrecord man should work
[03:56] <bruenig> -man
[03:56] <rodney_> kitche let me look at what i did on that
[03:56] <zention> Smirnov: so wmctrl -l just showed the same list
[03:56] <wastrel> mwalsh:  i dunno if right-click is how that's done in gnome - i normally use cdrecord.  you can google for the cd burning howto which has good instructions.
[03:57] <Smirnov> zention, yep
[03:57] <b14ck73425> im trying to access an old laptop, can anyone help
[03:57] <mwalsh> where is cdrecord
[03:57] <bruenig> mwalsh, cdrecord dev=/dev/hd? whatever.iso
[03:57] <wastrel> mwalsh:  or pop in a CD and nautilus should ask if you want to burn something, then navigate to the iso in nautilus
[03:57] <Smirnov> zention, http://rafb.net/p/qu7e4D78.html
[03:57] <zention> Smirnov: Gnome thing then - you need an identifier of some sort for that window
[03:57] <wastrel> (pop in a blank one)
[03:57] <mwalsh> GUys, the problem is i think its just not recognizing my drives.
[03:57] <bruenig> mwalsh, are you sure it isn't hardware failure
[03:57] <mwalsh> NOthing pops up
[03:57] <rodney_> kitche do i need to use gedit to make that file
[03:57] <mwalsh> Yes its not hardware failure, they work fine in windows
[03:58] <Smirnov> zention, ok how would i do that
[03:58] <mwalsh> evertyhting works perfectly, so its a software problem all the time.
[03:58] <bruenig> mwalsh, why isn't it recognizing the drives. It always recognizes drives.
[03:58] <bruenig> mwalsh, never seen it not recognize drives. Even when  you add drives after installation, it still recognizes them
[03:58] <mwalsh> bruenig: NO it doesnt, apparently
[03:58] <zention> Smirnov: ok close firefox and drop the ampersand
[03:58] <Smirnov> ok
[03:58] <chiarato> shatrat: ok so my is a 32 right!! I was trying to install xgl with beryl but I keep getting E:  Couldn't find package beryl???
[03:58] <zention> Smirnov: so open firefox normally
[03:58] <kitche> rodney_, if the file isn't made you can use gedit to make it since I know the udev rules are just text files I m looking at my ubuntu system and I don't see any blue boxes which is why I am confused
[03:58] <zention> Smirnov: then run wmctrl - l
[03:58] <wastrel> mwalsh:  can you play cd's?
[03:58] <zention> Smirnov: then run wmctrl -l
[03:58] <mwalsh> bruenig: i think everyone here has liek a 2 year old computer then because my parts ubuntu is just not clicking with
[03:58] <bruenig> !info beryl
[03:59] <ubotu> Package beryl does not exist in any distro I know
[03:59] <Derek> uuummm...in the first /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common file, what does it start out with in the restricted section
[03:59] <mwalsh> wastrel: hmm good question
[03:59] <shatrat> chiarato: You need to add a repository for Beryl.  Look for the beryl on edgy how-to at doc.gwos.org
[03:59] <bruenig> chiarato, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:59] <tigafan09> it hasnt froze up in a while knock on wood
[03:59] <Smirnov> zention, hmm that didnt seem to work
[03:59] <Derek> anyone now?
[03:59] <zention> Smirnov: how so?
[03:59] <shatrat> chiarato: and like bruenig said, #ubuntu-xgl is a channel just for xgl, aiglx, beryl, compiz, et cetera
[03:59] <bruenig> et al
[03:59] <shatrat> Derek: one sec
[04:00] <zention> Smirnov: open it using gnome
[04:00] <Smirnov> zention, i ran firefox in the shell, evne ran it using gnome and its not showing up
[04:00] <mwalsh> Ok nothing happened when I insterted the audio cd
[04:00] <humblerodent> crimsun: so would that be the right package to get? the whole version number is the same but a period before the last one instead of a dash?
[04:00] <bruenig> mwalsh, did you mess around with fstab or something else. Do you have some crazy obscure driver or something
[04:00] <bruenig> drive*
[04:01] <shatrat> Derek: You mean "DISABLED_MODULES="?
[04:01] <crimsun> humblerodent: again, ignore all the packages if you're compiling vanilla kernel.org source.
[04:01] <mwalsh> bruenig: no, ubuntu just doesnt work properly with my hardware man. i built my computer 3 months ago
[04:01] <Derek> ya, disbled modules
[04:01] <dredhammer> hello i am trying to compile ffmpeg with X264 support but even with libx264-dev installed and x264 ffmpeg SVN says it can't find x264
[04:01] <mwalsh> bruenig: its been HELL for me so far
[04:01] <rodney_> kitche all my files except the one i created 10-local.rules for my modem in /etc/udev/rules.d all the rest has a blue box unknown to this newb to ubuntu what they are either fresh setup
[04:01] <humblerodent> crimsun: I'm not sure what you mean....the guide is telling me to download the right package for my kernel
[04:01] <bruenig> mwalsh, building your computer three months ago doesn't mean that you don't have an obscure drive nor does it mean that you haven't messed with your fstab
[04:02] <crimsun> dredhammer: because you may need to patch ffmpeg for an api change.
[04:02] <shatrat> bruenig: mwalsh got kicked yesterday for moaning about how much better vista was than ubuntu. Don't waste too much time on him.
[04:02] <humblerodent> crimsun: uname -a gives me a kernel version of "2.6.17-10", so is "2.6.17.10" the right archive to get?
[04:02] <kitche> rodney_, but just follow the howto that you have and it should still work
[04:02] <bruenig> I got kicked yesterday for saying the word "nazi"
[04:02] <misha> I have a xorg.conf in /usr/share/xresprobe/ and one in /etc/X11/ why is that...?
[04:02] <crimsun> humblerodent: why are you concerned about a kernel package if that's what you're going to compile...?
[04:03] <dredhammer> oh dear where do i find info for that?
[04:03] <rodney_> kithche there blue boxes top right corner with arrows pointing toward top left of my screen
[04:03] <rodney_> kitche i did
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: courtesy of yours truly.  Trying to get the language in this channel under control.
[04:03] <crimsun> dredhammer: the upstream SVN changesets.
[04:03] <Akuma_> there's an ubuntu wiki article on TwinView / 2 X-screens, but its all for Nvidia - i have a SiS, but was able to send the image to my TV through s-video with WinXP. is there a way to do it? any chance it will work if i follow the steps in that article?
[04:03] <matjan> i have a problem with openoffice
[04:03] <matjan> with configuring an update to be exact
[04:03] <shatrat> sometimes I say potty words out loud while helping people.  Please dont hurt me.
[04:03] <bruenig> taking a political stance against nazis, seems very un-ubuntu like
[04:03] <zention> Smirnov: may want to switch to fluxbox :)
[04:04] <Derek> shatrat: do you now the default one?
[04:04] <rodney_> kitche i think it has something to do with symlink
[04:04] <matjan> http://pastebin.ca/328817
[04:04] <matjan> sudo dpkg --configure -a gives that error message
[04:04] <matjan> seems to be a broken symbolic link... i have no clue on how to solve it
[04:04] <matjan> also, it seems to affect other apps... for instance, the gimp does not run anymore
[04:04] <matjan> gimp: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0: invalid ELF header
[04:04] <matjan> does anyone have a clue?
[04:04] <Smirnov> zention, argh..?
[04:04] <shatrat> Derek: you mean teh default "DISABLED_MODULES="? by default I think its just blank.  I have "nv" in mine for the old nv driver
[04:04] <kitche> rodney_, maybe but I have never seen what your talking about so I can't really understand what you see if you know what I mean
[04:04] <bruenig> he gives a link to the pastebin and then pastes a bunch of garbage, brilliant
[04:04] <jrib> matjan: pasting multiple lines kind of defeats the purpose of using the pastebin
[04:04] <zention> Smirnov: there is a way probably in gnome but you will have to get under the hood
[04:04] <Smirnov> zention, i dont need to reinstall do i?
[04:04] <Smirnov> zention, reboot* ?
[04:05] <zention> Smirnov: go to #gnome and ask there
[04:05] <Derek> ok, cool
[04:05] <Derek> how do you get to the desktop?
[04:05] <humblerodent> crimsun: I don't understand what you're asking.  I want to keep the same kernel version as I had before, just for safety and security, if that clears anything up.
[04:05] <matjan> jrib, that was not supposed to be in a pastebin... it is my question already formulated
[04:05] <humblerodent> basically, I'm just asking if 2.6.17-10 is the same thing as 2.6.17.10 .
[04:05] <Adouma> Hey, is it possible to make your Rhythmbox library with songs that are accessed over a LAN from a separate (Windows) computer?
[04:05] <bruenig> matjan, why so many breaks...
[04:06] <kitche> Derek, startx or sudo gdm can do it also
[04:06] <mwalsh> brueng: dont listen to shatrat, hes an idiot. and no i dont have an obscure drive or have messed with the fstab.
[04:06] <matjan> bruenig, sorry... but i copy/pasted from another channel
[04:06] <Derek> kitche: wah?
[04:06] <bruenig> mwalsh, hmmm he is not the one who can't get his drive mounted, but nonetheless, what sort of error message were you getting with cdrecord
[04:06] <matjan> bruenig, my question is there now
[04:07] <wastrel> you've wasted about 8 lines complaining about a 5 line paste - and he used pastebin for the error.  get over it :p
[04:07] <host`> 'dmesg' should show different modules and services that are running correct?
[04:07] <shatrat> Derek: I think what you need is "cd /home/derek/Desktop"
[04:07] <shatrat> He was describing how to Start the desktop environgment
[04:07] <matjan> wastrel, ty :)
[04:07] <rodney_> kitche thanx for the help
[04:08] <Derek> oh/wait, i need to get to the directory and when i type ur comand in it doesent do anythin
[04:08] <kitche> Derek, be more clear sometimes it's hard to understand what you mean since Desktop can mean many things in Linxu whether to start X or to change directories to Desktop :)
[04:08] <kitche> Derek, cd ~/Desktop try that
[04:08] <rodney_> kitche now i remember it is not associted
[04:08] <Chura> Hey
[04:08] <Derek> oh, ok, cool
[04:08] <Derek> that worked, thx
[04:09] <jackson3246> is there any reason why the edgy live cd would have graphical problems for me? nvidia6800GS, AMD 64 3200+
[04:09] <kitche> rodney_, ok :)
[04:09] <Chura> may i install ubuntu and windows on same HDD but diffrent partition ?
[04:09] <host`> question ... 'dmesg' should show different modules and services that are running correct? it's showing me 1556 lines about my wlan adapter
[04:09] <jackson3246> Chura: yep
[04:09] <jrib> !dualboot | Chura
[04:09] <rodney_> kitche all those other files are but not the one i created
[04:09] <luddite> host: hello
[04:09] <Chura> sorry, i'm newbie :)
[04:09] <Chura> !dualboot
[04:09] <jrib> !test
[04:09] <shatrat> jackson3246: The liveCD doesnt need a reason not to work.  Sometimes it just doesnt.  Its a wild crazy world.
[04:09] <shatrat> jackson3246: Have you tried it and had a problem?
[04:09] <kitche> host`, actually dmesg is for the kernel
[04:10] <Chura> ! now working :(
[04:10] <jackson3246> shatrat: yep. in safe and normal graphics modes
[04:10] <EGutierrez91> can someone tell me something
[04:10] <jrib> Chura: there's a dualboot guide on wiki.ubuntu.com, let me know if it doesn't turn up in a search for you
[04:10] <shatrat> jackson3246: Does it give an error at all?
[04:10] <kitche> host`, for example if you plug in a usb device and then type dmesg it should show a kernel event
[04:10] <Derek> ok, brb guys, i got 2 go eat dinner
[04:10] <host`> hey luddite
[04:10] <host`> :D
[04:10] <luddite> EGutierrez91: something
[04:10] <EGutierrez91> umm, im trying to dual boot with Windows.
[04:10] <jackson3246> shatrat: nope.. just a bunch of colorful bars
[04:10] <rodney_> kitche i should have said link target
[04:10] <shatrat> Derek: bon apetit
[04:10] <Derek> me afk for now
[04:10] <luddite> ;-)
[04:10] <luddite> its a small world
[04:10] <Chura> another question please
[04:10] <EGutierrez91> could someone check my thread
[04:10] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:10] <EGutierrez91> on the ubuntu forums
[04:11] <shatrat> jackson3246: like the ubuntu splash screen, or crazy graphics corruption bars?
[04:11] <EGutierrez91> i got that
[04:11] <Chura> can i install it on SecurePlatfom ? (Check point) ?
[04:11] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:11] <EGutierrez91> just need something for a shred partition
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about now working :( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <host`> let me try kitche
[04:11] <rodney_> kitche there is no link target on the file i created
[04:11] <EGutierrez91> luddite may I PM
[04:11] <jackson3246> shatrat: haha. the usplash (or whatever edgy replaced it with) works fine, but GDM gives the crazy graphics corruption bars fullscreen
[04:11] <m12> what command do I type in the console to find out what my sound card is?
[04:12] <shatrat> jackson3246: GDM? I think the live CD goes straight to desktop.  We are talking about during install right?
[04:12] <jackson3246> shatrat: oh. I assumed it went to GDM. yeah during install -- I can't really tell what it goes to because of the problem, you see
[04:12] <shatrat> m12: if you start alsamixer it should say at the top, at least if its working.
[04:13] <m12> shatrat:  my headphones aren't work, but the rest are
[04:13] <shatrat> jackson3246: I do indeed see.  You could try installing from the alternative CD
[04:13] <m12> HDA Intel I guess
[04:13] <jackson3246> shatrat: yeah that works fine. I was just curious haha
[04:13] <m12> thanks then
[04:13] <shatrat> m12: try running alsamixer and looking at all the channels, it may be that the headphone jack is muted or turned down
[04:13] <EGutierrez91> Umm
[04:13] <Chura> anyone ?can i install it on SecurePlatfom ? (Check point) ?
[04:14] <m12> it says 00, but doesn't let me change it
[04:14] <shatrat> jackson3246: the liveCD is complicated stuff and they cant pack everything onto one cd or get one setup to work with everything in the world, I would have though your card would be safe though
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> Sorry for double post, but I need to create a shared FAT32 partition for both OS. DO I set that as the 4 primary partition?
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> Edit/Delete Message
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> Sorry for double post, but I need to create a shared FAT32 partition for both OS. DO I set that as the 4 primary partition?
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> Edit/Delete Message
[04:14] <jackson3246> shatrat: yeah me too, that's why I was curious. that's all right though. thanks for the attention!
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> i already have 3 primary
[04:14] <EGutierrez91> so i need to know
[04:14] <shatrat> jackson3246: Good luck
[04:15] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: Sure, you have room for one more primary iirc.  I suggest formatting it ext3 though, and using fs-driver.org for windows access
[04:15] <EGutierrez91> okay
[04:15] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: fat32 is bad for large files, or files in general really.
[04:15] <shatrat> great for floppies!
[04:15] <EGutierrez91> why do u recommend ext3?
[04:15] <dabaR> exit
[04:15] <rodney_> kitche thanx again ill figure it out later
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> well that is true
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> implanning to put movies on it
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> so they are large
[04:16] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: Yeah, large files in fat32 is a bad thing
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> so thanks for the help
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> i will format a 4th partition to ext3
[04:16] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: no problem, im just glad youre not installing ATI drivers
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> then create a logical partition
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> for the install
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> hopefully it all works out
[04:16] <EGutierrez91> im gunna install now
[04:17] <EGutierrez91> will connect from gaim if the install goes as planned
[04:17] <shatrat> You installing linux to the 4th partition?
[04:17] <shatrat> Youll need a swap as well...
[04:17] <shatrat> Bye though!
[04:17] <Aggort> Hey guys, I have a weird problem. the GNOME window manager won;t open, it keeps crashing and I don't know why? I do have the bug report,  located here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2942/ can anyone help me?
[04:18] <poningru> hmm let me se
[04:19] <EGutierrez91> i rejoined
[04:19] <EGutierrez91> what was that driver that i needed to make it accessable on windows
[04:19] <Chura> what are the minimum req for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <poningru> Aggort: update-rc.d remove cupsys default
[04:19] <Aggort> in terminal I suppose?
[04:19] <poningru> Aggort: right
[04:19] <Aggort> ty
[04:20] <Chura> will it run on P3 800 with 768 ram ?
[04:20] <poningru> yes
[04:20] <Aggort> Also, is there a way to set a session as default for a specific user?
[04:20] <EGutierrez91> it should run
[04:20] <poningru> how much hdd space do you have?
[04:20] <EGutierrez91> luddite u there
[04:20] <EGutierrez91> Sorry for double post, but I need to create a shared FAT32 partition for both OS. DO I set that as the 4 primary partition?
[04:20] <EGutierrez91> Edit/Delete Message
[04:20] <Chura> jcuz i wanna learn before i install on mani, and i have 500gb
[04:21] <Aggort> poningru: It said file doesn't exist
[04:21] <Aggort> do I need to be on my GNOME session?
[04:21] <poningru> err what?
[04:21] <poningru> no
[04:21] <poningru> hold on
[04:21] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: fs-driver.org
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> thanks
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> lol
[04:21] <Aggort> no prob
[04:21] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: and you do already have a / and swap partition made?
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> nah
[04:21] <Chura> ok thanks, bye
[04:21] <poningru> Aggort: oops
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> im gunna install ubunutu now
[04:21] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: You need 2 partitions for ubuntu
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> can i PM
[04:21] <EGutierrez91> i know
[04:21] <Aggort> poningru: I don't like oops lol
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> i know how im gunna partition
[04:22] <poningru> Aggort: its update-rc.d cupsys remove
[04:22] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: so you might be dipping into the extended partitions after all, just making sure you knew
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> yea
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> i know.
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> so this driver is gunna be installed on the windows
[04:22] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: You are possessed of the certainty of one who has not yet hosed his disk. I envy you.
[04:22] <poningru> EGutierrez91: what are yout rying to do?
[04:22] <shatrat> Yes, and it lets windows natively read ext3 as if it was ext2.  No journaling but thats fine for watching movies and stuff
[04:22] <Aggort> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cupsys exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) is that right?
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> LOL.
[04:22] <EGutierrez91> I wont hose it.
[04:23] <shatrat> Thats what i said
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> I've had help from ubuntu forums
[04:23] <shatrat> Every time
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> i know how to parition it
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> alright
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> thanks for tell me
[04:23] <shatrat> See you soon
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> im out to install it
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> alright
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> shatrat
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> can i pm
[04:23] <Aggort> poningu: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cupsys exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) is that right?
[04:23] <poningru> Aggort: yeah use -f
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> to make sure i have all my info sure
[04:23] <Aggort> k
[04:23] <Aggort> sorry
[04:23] <shatrat> Sure, no problem
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> om
[04:23] <EGutierrez91> pming now
[04:24] <Aggort> poningu: where do i put the -f?
[04:24] <shatrat> You probably are fine though, I just like scaring peole before they install. I tmakes it more exciting for them, imo.
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> lol answer!
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> yea
[04:24] <chiarato> I need help Please I keep getting this every time I try to install beryl I get this! E: Couldn't find package beryl
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> my heart started beating faster
[04:24] <poningru> Aggort: in between update-rc.d and cupsys
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> i was like nooo
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> okay
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> ubuntu forums told me
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> Root partition
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> home parititon
[04:24] <Xenguy> EGutierrez91: reminds me of the first time I played Doom :-)
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> and swap
[04:24] <poningru> !beryl | chiarato
[04:24] <ubotu> chiarato: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> lolll
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> doom3 pwns
[04:24] <EGutierrez91> lol
[04:25] <poningru> go to that help channel
[04:25] <chiarato> I followed all the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> and a 20GBext3 with the fs-driver
[04:25] <poningru> chiarato: go to hta thelp channel
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> awesome!!!
[04:25] <shatrat> Yeah.  Having a seperate home partition is smart, in case you want to reinstall or do fresh upgrades cleanly
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> im out
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> PcE
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> wish me luck everyone
[04:25] <Xenguy> luck
[04:25] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: you could make the 20gb part of your /home
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> nah i need it for the xp sharing
[04:25] <shatrat> with the fs-driver you will be able to read all partitions, including /hgome
[04:25] <EGutierrez91> i dont want it more confusing thn it is to me
[04:25] <Aggort>  Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/cupsys ...
[04:25] <Aggort>    /etc/rc0.d/K19cupsys
[04:25] <Aggort> update-rc.d: unlink: Permission denied
[04:25] <Aggort> uggh
[04:25] <chiarato> poningru: what help channel?
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> awesome
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> its okay
[04:26] <shatrat> Thats a good point. /home has a bunch of clutter in it
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> of wait
[04:26] <Aggort> poningru, what now?
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> lol
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> nevermind
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> im out
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> thanks
[04:26] <EGutierrez91> !!!
[04:26] <shatrat> <e
[04:26] <poningru> Aggort: restart
[04:26] <cafuego_> Aggort: 'sudo !!'
[04:26] <shatrat> There goes a brave, brave man.
[04:26] <Xenguy> hehe
[04:27] <Aggort> restart and what, boot into GNOME? it's fixed?
[04:27] <cafuego_> Aggort: No, the startup link was not removed, because the command didn't run as root.
[04:27] <poningru> wtf
[04:27] <Aggort> ok, then what do I need to do?
[04:28] <poningru> lamzorz listen to what cafuego said
[04:28] <cafuego_> Aggort: run 'sudo !!'
[04:28] <cafuego_> Aggort: That runs "sudo <previous command>'
[04:28] <Aggort> ty
[04:28] <Aggort> anything else I need to do
[04:28] <cafuego_> Then run "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop"
[04:29] <cafuego_> That will stop it, and the previous command will prevent it from starting at the next bootup.
[04:29] <Aggort> None of that will mess up my Xgl or my KDE sessions will they? and still fix GNOME?
[04:29] <Aggort> oh and anythign else?
[04:29] <cafuego_> Aggort: They ONLY affect the printing system.
[04:29] <Aggort> l
[04:29] <Aggort> k
[04:30] <Aggort> Am I done then?
[04:31] <Kalrog> Anyone here use MySQL Admin?  When I try to go to the "User Administration" tab, the application locks up.
[04:31] <Aggort> I;m done?
[04:31] <Kalrog> I would rather not have to do all of my stuff through the terminal prompt.
[04:32] <Kalrog> And I would rather not load php/apache in order to get phpmyadmin.
[04:32] <jimmygoon> Are there testing repositories for KDE4 for ubunt as of right now?
[04:32] <Aggort> ...
[04:32] <shatrat> Youre done Aggort, enjoy
[04:32] <Smirnov> !32bit
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Aggort> One last thing, is it possible to set default sessions to specific users?
[04:32] <Smirnov> !chroot
[04:32] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:33] <jackson3246> is there any way to automount (with /etc/fstab) a partition with ntfs-3g?
[04:33] <dsnyders> HI.  I've just changed locales, but nothing (spelling, measurements, etc) appear unchanged.  What did I fail to do?
[04:33] <jamesarthur> I can't su to root, is there some other name or su doesn't work with ubuntu????
[04:33] <shatrat> !sudo|jamesarthur
[04:33] <ubotu> jamesarthur: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:33] <jackson3246> jamesarthur: sudo passwd root
[04:34] <jackson3246> jamesarthur: then you can su after that
[04:34] <shatrat> jackson3246: you can add an ntfs drive to your fstab, there are how-tos for that on doc.gwos.org
[04:35] <kitche> dsnyders,  locale is for glibc and such has nothing to do with spelling or measurements mostly for perl and other things as well do you mean you changed locale in a program your using
[04:35] <jackson3246> shatrat: ah, I've found it. thank you again!
[04:35] <mwalsh> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37202
[04:36] <Aggort> Dude that did nothing, I still get the same errors when logging into my gnome session
[04:36] <jamesarthur> I can't get in, does ubuntu have (PSM)? Where?
[04:36] <Aggort> and GNOME still didn't laod properly
[04:37] <Aggort> Where'd the guy go that was helping me
[04:37] <Aggort> lol
[04:37] <kitche> dsnyders, this explains for locale is for at least what I m talking about for filenames and such http://www.linux.com/howtos/Indic-Fonts-HOWTO/locale.shtml
[04:37] <corevette> can someone help me?
[04:37] <riotkittie> >P
[04:37] <riotkittie> corevette: what do you need help with ?
[04:38] <shatrat> !ask|corevette
[04:38] <ubotu> corevette: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:38] <corevette> riotkittie....my live cd wouldn't boot....so installed with the alternative cd.....but my networking doesn't work when i install this way.....
[04:38] <pbureau> corevette,  what does ifconfig say about your eth0?
[04:39] <poningru> Aggort: whatup?
[04:39] <pbureau> corevette,  and is it cat5 ethernet or wifi your talking about ?
[04:39] <shatrat> or eth1, if youve got more than one ethernet connection
[04:39] <corevette> hold on pbureau let me bot it up
[04:39] <Aggort> That didn't work
[04:39] <Aggort> lol
[04:39] <corevette> pbureau wifi
[04:39] <pbureau> corevette, what card chipset your wifi ?
[04:39] <Aggort> Do I need to restart?
[04:39] <marek_> is there a good textmate-like app for linux other than (slow) jedit?
[04:39] <Aggort> cus I got the same error
[04:39] <corevette> pbureau netgear wg311t....it works when i installed with the regular live cd
[04:40] <shatrat> marek_: I dont know what textmate is.  gedit maybe?
[04:40] <EGutierrez91> arrg, something
[04:40] <corevette> pbureau but i had to reinstall
[04:40] <Aggort> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2943/ Someone help, I keep getting
[04:40] <EGutierrez91> a magical thing is telling me not to install linux
[04:40] <EGutierrez91> after all the problems ive had solved
[04:40] <EGutierrez91> now my pc not reading the CD
[04:40] <wastrel> what's textmate
[04:40] <Derek> WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DERELIKILIKEEEE IS IN THE HOUSE!
[04:40] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: Not booting from it, or booting from it and stopping?
[04:40] <pbureau> corevette,  could it be the alternate install doesnt cover / identify wifi stuff ? what does your iwconfig , and if config say about your eth1 or wlan ?
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> It boots, then gets some weird scruibbly thing.
[04:41] <shatrat> Derek: But does derek have 3D acceleration?
[04:41] <poningru> Aggort: hmm sorry dude I dont know what to tell you
[04:41] <corevette> pbureau....ipconfig ....the command doesn't even exist
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> First it didnt boot at all.
[04:41] <shatrat> Scruibbly things are your first clue
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> Then, i went into BIOS
[04:41] <Derek> idk, maybe, how do i check?
[04:41] <poningru> Aggort: can you link that link again?
[04:41] <shatrat> lol
[04:41] <pbureau> corevette,  ifconfig not ipconfig
[04:41] <corevette> oh sorry
[04:41] <Aggort> poningru: Do i need to restart? and Why would GNOME do this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2943/ Someone help, I keep getting
[04:41] <shatrat> Derek: glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:41] <khoa> anyone have issues playing burnt dvd's?
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> and set it to read the disk
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> then, it read it and got weird text
[04:41] <Aggort> lol sorry didn't mean to past the rest
[04:41] <poningru> Aggort: oh you didnt restart?
[04:41] <corevette> pbureau...what information do you want from eth0
[04:41] <EGutierrez91> my first clue to what shatrat
[04:41] <poningru> try restarting
[04:42] <Aggort> poningru I jsut logged out and back on
[04:42] <Aggort> k
[04:42] <Derek> still says no
[04:42] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: did you get the screen with the menu of boot options on the CD? or did that scramble?
[04:42] <Kalrog> Suggestions for ripping CDs to MP3 format please
[04:42] <pbureau> corevette,  lets take this private
[04:42] <EGutierrez91> nah
[04:42] <poningru> Kalrog: why do you wanna rip to mp3?
[04:42] <EGutierrez91> i got the boot option. i selected start or install ubuntu
[04:42] <poningru> Kalrog: why not ogg?
[04:42] <EGutierrez91> took a long long long time with the load screen then stopps
[04:42] <EGutierrez91> and got balck screeen white text
[04:43] <shatrat> Derek: You might want to try a different FGLRX method.  like install from the ATI package
[04:43] <poningru> !rip
[04:43] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[04:43] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: Maybe you should try again with safe graphics settings. What hardware do you have?
[04:43] <corevette> pbureau..i'm talking to you
[04:43] <Kalrog> Because not both of our music players do ogg.  Mine does, but my wife's doesn't.  So I had to convert.  Much easier than having 2 copies of everything.
[04:43] <Derek> different? what do you meen?
[04:43] <Derek> oh, btw, im stil not done wit manual install
[04:44] <shatrat> Derek: ok, carry on sir.
[04:44] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: also, if you burned the CD at 48x it could very likely have errors on it.  I had that happen just a couple days ago
[04:44] <EGutierrez91> shatrat: it ran well before.
[04:44] <EGutierrez91> loaded up twice on it already.
[04:44] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: the Live CD?
[04:44] <EGutierrez91> Then an error today
[04:44] <EGutierrez91> Yea
[04:45] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: on this same computer?
[04:45] <EGutierrez91> yup
[04:45] <shatrat> EGutierrez91: Obviously you didnt eat your wheaties
[04:45] <EGutierrez91> LOL?
[04:45] <Derek> Shatrat: lol, you called me sir
[04:45] <corevette> pbureau you there?
[04:45] <shatrat> I like the word sir
[04:45] <EGutierrez91> i be back
[04:45] <shatrat> Its good punctuation
[04:46] <pbureau> corevette,  type /msg nickserve register <password> they are blocking non registered names right now
[04:46] <Kalrog> So I installed LAME just to make sure I had an MP3 encoder but grip and sound juicer still don't recognize having an MP3 encoder.   But MP3 still doesn't appear to be a valid option in either app.
[04:46] <pbureau> corevette, and cut and paste back into the window
[04:46] <corevette> i already am registered/identified pbureau
[04:46] <jrib> !mp3 | Kalrog
[04:46] <ubotu> Kalrog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:47] <pbureau> corevette,  opps I forgot to ident... okay lets go back in pvt
[04:47] <Kalrog> jrib: ogg is my preferred, but it isn't an option in this case.
[04:47] <seventypercent> Kalrog: and you modified the grip configuration to tell it to use LAME and where to find it?
[04:47] <Kalrog> ubotu: Thanks.  I'll check those out.
[04:48] <bfdhud> How does someone change file associations in gnome? I wan't video formats to open with VLC instead of Totem, including browser content.
[04:48] <Derek> ITS WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:48] <bfdhud> er want not wan't
[04:48] <Kalrog> seventypercent: nope.  location?
[04:48] <shatrat> bfdhud: System -> Preferences -> Prefereed Applications
[04:48] <Aggort> OK this time when i logged in almsot none of my panel applications worked and still the GNOME window manager didn't load properly. but I didn't get the bug report this time
[04:48] <seventypercent> Kalrog: In grip, select the "Config" tab, and then "Encode" below that
[04:48] <shatrat> Derek: I always believed in you. Except that one time when you couldnt find your Desktop directory.
[04:48] <bfdhud> awesome Shatrat, thanks
[04:48] <Aggort> When i log into KDE or XGl it works fine
[04:48] <shatrat> yw
[04:48] <poningru> bfdhud: right click on a file with that vid format and go to properties then htere is a tab there that lets you select which app to use
[04:48] <Derek> graphics driver installation anyhow/lol
[04:48] <Aggort> and whenevr anyone else on this PC logs in it works finee
[04:48] <Aggort> fine*
[04:49] <seventypercent> Kalrog: Then you should be able to specify lame as your encoder, and the path to the binary, if it's not in /usr/bin (default location)
[04:49] <Aggort> So would I be best off jsut to delete this username and create a new one?
[04:49] <Hansel> I need some help with XFCE... when I go to the settings manager it doesn't appear to be showing all of the resolutions that I set in my xorg.conf.  Does anybody know if it reads from another location?  Also, how can I tell what resolution I'm currently running at?
[04:49] <shatrat> Derek: What part worked? Are you running on FGLRX or did you just successfuly run the fglrx script from ATI
[04:49] <Kalrog> seventypercent: Gotcha.  I see that.  Now I have to figure out where it installed to via synaptics.
[04:49] <jrib> Hansel: 2nd question: xdpyinfo
[04:50] <seventypercent> Kalrog: I'm sure it's probably in /usr/bin, but you can always do a "which lame" from a terminal window
[04:50] <bfdhud> poingru: thanks it is fixed
[04:50] <Kalrog> seventypercent: /usr/bin it is.
[04:50] <Hansel> jrib - I think it is saying its at 1280x1024 based on the dimensions of screen #0:
[04:51] <jrib> Kalrog: for sound-juicer: http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html  note you need the proper gstreamer packages
[04:51] <marek_> wastrel textmate is code editor for os x
[04:51] <Hansel> I am trying to get it to run at 1680x1050...
[04:51] <jrib> !fixres | Hansel
[04:51] <ubotu> Hansel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:51] <dustin>  I have a question for anyone in general,  I think for edgy some things don't start correctly if you have it set up for automatic login,  Has this issue been addressed in Feisty?
[04:52] <Derek> shatrat: just the script from ATI
[04:52] <jrib> dustin: that's a bit vague
[04:52] <Cybercod> how does one change group ownership and permissions for a whole home folder?  I was trying to change username and I screwed it up
[04:52] <Kalrog> seventypercent: I had to specify /usr/bin.  Appears to work now, thanks!
[04:52] <shatrat> Derek: well at least that means you have the kernel header sources and all that important stuff installed correctly. Bravo
[04:52] <eoX> hey i want my grub to use grey for highlighting selected box but want a transparent background for my grub splash to show through can someonne plz give me the correct line? i tried several but failed
[04:52] <seventypercent> Kalrog: no problem! have fun
[04:52] <jrib> Cybercod: chgrp?  chgrp -R for recursive
[04:52] <shatrat> dustin: there is a channel for fiesty, I believe its #ubuntu+1?
[04:52] <jrib> Cybercod: make sure you don't do it outside your $HOME since that would be *bad*
[04:52] <Cybercod> jrib  use it in a sentence
[04:53] <dustin> Ok, ill go see over there and see if i can figure out what is happening when i try to automatically login.  Thanks
[04:53] <Cybercod> I just don't wanna have to set up all toobars and icons again
[04:53] <jrib> Cybercod: one changes group ownership for a whole home folder with chgrp -R
[04:53] <eoX> hey i want my grub to use grey for highlighting selected text* but want a transparent background for my grub splash to show through can someonne plz give me the correct line? i tried several but failed
[04:53] <jrib> Cybercod: what exactly happened?
[04:54] <Cybercod> so go into that folder and type chgrp -R <ownername>?
[04:54] <Derek> shatrat: thanks to you for helping me, and of course for providing morall suport lol, now all i need to do is..."sudo dpkg -i *.deb" which is supposed to do..something lol
[04:54] <Cybercod> I'm installing for relatives... named the user something, then decided to change it
[04:55] <shatrat> Derek: make sure you run that command from teh same directory where you ran the ATI script
[04:56] <Derek> which would be el' desktopomatic
[04:56] <jrib> Cybercod: how did you change the name?
[04:56] <Cybercod> through users and groups
[04:56] <Cybercod> I wanted to change the home folder name as well
[04:57] <jrib> Cybercod: I see, what does:  getent passwd USERNAME_HERE   return?
[04:57] <Cybercod> family:x:1000:1002:Family,,,,:/home/family:/bin/bash
[04:57] <jrib> Cybercod: k, that's teh new name?
[04:57] <Cybercod> yes
[04:58] <shatrat> Cybercod: I think it would be safer to create a new user with the name you want, transfer the fliles and configs you want, and then get rid of family
[04:58] <shatrat> renaming sounds like a good way to hose a lot of application's configs
[04:58] <Cybercod> ok, but what about permissions?
[04:58] <jrib> Cybercod: and you have a /home/oldname that you are going to replace /home/family with right?
[04:58] <mtdoo> my wireless card is supported (intel pro/wireless 3945abg).. before i install ubuntu i actuall see it picked up and it works (get connection), however, after install i don't see it under system > admin > network settings
[04:58] <farruinn> sudo chmod
[04:58] <mtdoo> any ideas?
[04:59] <Cybercod> how does it need to be?
[04:59] <shatrat> mtdoo: run ifconfig in terminal?
[04:59] <Cybercod> I've got three copies of the folder now... each in various stages of disrepair
[04:59] <mtdoo> shatrat i only see lo and eth0
[04:59] <Derek> ick, problem, i have to build the kernel module
[04:59] <jrib> Cybercod: delete /home/family.  Then rename /home/oldname to /home/family
[04:59] <Pirate-king> hello
[04:59] <shatrat> Derek: thats not a problem, that's its job.
[04:59] <mtdoo> shatrati see the wireless card in device manager
[05:00] <shatrat> Derek: it asks you Y or N right?
[05:00] <shatrat> mtdoo: Does it have an IP by chance?
[05:00] <Derek> no, it says in the how 2 that i have 2
[05:00] <jrib> Cybercod: afterwards:  sudo chown family: /home/family
[05:00] <shatrat> Derek: well, obey the how to
[05:00] <mtdoo> shatrat what's it ??? none of the network interfaces have ip
[05:00] <Derek> and the first comand "sudo module-assistant prepare,update" says
[05:00] <Derek> comand not found
[05:01] <jrib> Cybercod: that : is part of the command by the way, so it's everyhthing in quotes here: "sudo chown family: /home/family"
[05:01] <Cybercod> ok
[05:01] <Chatty> hi how do I exit gui mode on xubuntu?
[05:01] <Cybercod> what about ownership of individual files?
[05:01] <shatrat> Derek: try sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[05:01] <jrib> Cybercod: oops, I mean,  sudo chown -R family: /home/family
[05:01] <Pirate-king> I just did an install of ubuntu and my wireless card is reconised when I do a lspci how come I the wireless card does not show up in the network connections?
[05:02] <shatrat> mtdoo: I dont know about your particular wireless adapter. It might be that you need firmware to get it going, or maybe you need a better network manager like network-manager-gnome to configure it properly.
[05:02] <shatrat> mtdoo: I'd do some searching on the forums if I were you, sorry I cant be of more help
[05:02] <marshcast> Hi guys - someone mentioned an Xubuntu Kiosk mode earlier - but I've been able to find practically nothing of use anywhere - a few q's in wiki&ubuntuforums - but no answers with any meat on them -- anyone have any ideas about this?
[05:02] <corevette> i need to install the restricted modules off my ubuntu cd...so when i go to synaptic...add cd....it recognizes the cd...but gets unmounted
[05:02] <Chatty> pirate-king: my wireless wasn't detected by lspci but I still have wireless entry in network setup
[05:03] <En3k0-> hola?
[05:03] <Cybercod> ok... is that it?
[05:03] <mtdoo> shatrat the stupid thing is that it works before install (with just cd inserted) and now it doesn't work.. huh? how did ubuntu manage to get that to happen?
[05:03] <Pirate-king> ic
[05:03] <shatrat> mtdoo: Yes, that is troubling.  I have no idea.
[05:04] <corevette> i need to install the restricted modules off my ubuntu cd...so when i go to synaptic...add cd....it recognizes the cd...but gets unmounted
[05:04] <shatrat> mtdoo: maybe ndiswrapper is on the liveCD and not installed by default
[05:04] <Smirnov> which libraries do i need to install as chroot to run X programs in chroot?
[05:04] <Pirate-king> any other suggestions chatty?
[05:04] <Derek> shatrat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2945/
[05:04] <Cybercod> jrib... is that it? should I try relogging now?
[05:04] <marshcast> no kiosk suggestions for x?
[05:04] <mtdoo> shatrat how do i install that ?
[05:04] <jrib> Cybercod: yep
[05:04] <Chatty> pirate-king: if its detected by lspci then just create a wireless entry yourself with gui application or use iwconfig from command line
[05:04] <Cybercod> ok... brb... if it don't work, I have another user that works.
[05:05] <shatrat> mtdoo: I suggest looking for a how-to for your chipset.  The steps taken to get the firmware going vary from card to card.
[05:05] <Pirate-king> ok
[05:05] <adamonline45> Okay.. If I type su, and become root, how do I go back to non-root?
[05:05] <shatrat> Derek: do you get nothing for "which module-assistant"?
[05:05] <Chatty> how do I exit gui mode with xubuntu?
[05:05] <mtdoo> shatrat how do i install ndiswrapper??
[05:05] <pemula> hi all. i'm very new to linux and i just installed and run ubuntu 6.10 on my notebook (acer travelmate 290). but when i tried to press FN+F5 (for CRT/LCD), my notebook hang. Any suggestion or help?
[05:05] <jrib> Chatty: do you have /etc/init.d/xdm ?
[05:06] <corevette> is there a place i can download teh restricted modules?
[05:06] <shatrat> mtdoo: I think its in the repos, apt-get install ndiswrapper, but that may not be all you need. I suggest research.  I dont have your card.
[05:06] <jrib> corevette: use your favorite package manager, for example synaptic
[05:06] <Chatty> adamonline45: do "exit" to go back to user mode and on ubuntu systems you use sudo su to become root
[05:06] <phiqtion> how can i see if my swap space is in use?
[05:06] <jrib> phiqtion: free -m
[05:06] <shatrat> Derek: Do you have Universe repositories un-commented in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:07] <Cybercod> jrib... everything looks right, but I'm getting an error message at login about .dmrc
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <En3k0-> ..
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <Cybercod> says permissions need to be 644
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <En3k0-> .
[05:07] <jrib> En3k0-: stop
[05:07] <En3k0-> ok srry  :(
[05:07] <jrib> Cybercod: ls -l ~/.dmrc
[05:08] <Cybercod> -rw-rw---- 1 family family 26 2007-01-16 16:01 /home/family/.dmrc
[05:08] <lebowski> !webcam
[05:08] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:08] <jrib> Cybercod: weird,  sudo chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[05:08] <jrib> sudo isn't needed I guess
[05:08] <phiqtion> jrib: swap says 0, how can i make swap mount @ startup?
[05:08] <Cybercod> ok
[05:08] <Cybercod> relog?
[05:08] <jrib> Cybercod: sure
[05:09] <Chatty> jrib: I know I can set things up to not start x but that is a waste of time to type startx can't I exit gui mode?
[05:09] <jrib> Chatty: you didn't answer my question :/
[05:10] <phiqtion> jrib: swap says 0, how can i make swap mount @ startup?
[05:10] <pemula> I just installed and run ubuntu 6.10 on my notebook (acer travelmate 290). but when i tried to press FN+F5 (for CRT/LCD), my notebook hang. Any suggestion or help?
[05:10] <jrib> phiqtion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[05:10] <acro> does anyone use freenx on edgy? i noticed that seveas isn't putting freenx deb out for edgy ..
[05:11] <Derek> shatrat: i dont no, what am i looking for?
[05:11] <Derek> im in directory
[05:12] <Chatty> jrib: and no I don't have xdm
[05:12] <jrib> Chatty: ls /etc/init.d/?dm
[05:12] <adamonline45> !compiz
[05:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:13] <Chatty> jrib: there is a gdm
[05:13] <FoQs> #polska
[05:13] <jrib> Chatty: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop    will let you stop X
[05:13] <corevette> where can i find a .deb for madwifi
[05:14] <Chatty> k
[05:14] <jrib> !madwifi | corevette
[05:14] <ubotu> corevette: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:14] <acro> no idea anyone for freenx .deb ???
[05:15] <someothernick> !freenx
[05:15] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:15] <someothernick> i think there is a how to in the forums
[05:16] <acro> yes, the howto assumes the .deb is in seveas .. which it isn't for edgy
[05:17] <acro> (only for dapper)
[05:17] <Cybercod> jrib... figured it out
[05:18] <someothernick> last post says to use the dapper repo
[05:18] <Cybercod> made a new user and looked at their home folder permissions
[05:18] <corevette> how do i install madwifi....the wiki is not very updated here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManagerMadWifi
[05:18] <acro> what are the chances of a .deb created for dapper, working on edgy?
[05:18] <someothernick> no idea :/
[05:18] <Chatty> well that was interesting, now how to access a shell when I kill gui mode
[05:19] <acro> typically can debs work across releases?
[05:19] <jrib> Chatty: ctrl-alt-f1  why do you even need to exit X?
[05:19] <acro> (i'm new to apt)
[05:19] <jrib> Chatty: you mean on /home/family?
[05:19] <crimsun> acro: 50%.
[05:19] <jrib> Chatty: ignore that last comment, the intended recipient left
[05:19] <Chatty> jrib: you mean ctrl alt f1 works with xubuntu!?!? that never works on most linux distros
[05:20] <jrib> Chatty: try it, I assume it does
[05:20] <pixelmonkey> Is snd-usb-audio supported in Alsa in Ubuntu edgy?
[05:20] <crimsun> pixelmonkey: of course.
[05:20] <pixelmonkey> crimsun, is it not a separate module?
[05:21] <crimsun> pixelmonkey: it is.
[05:21] <crimsun> ``modinfo snd-usb-audio |grep ^Filename''
[05:21] <pixelmonkey> crimsun, I don't see it under /lib/modules/.../
[05:21] <crimsun> grep -i, or use ^filename
[05:21] <nrdb> I am trying to compile blender, it says I am missing GL/gl.h, I believe this is to do with opengl, does any know which package I need to install to get this file ?
[05:22] <ardchoille42> nrdb, Is there a reason you're compiling blender instead of installing it from the repos?
[05:22] <corevette> how do you install the restricted modules while your offline???
[05:22] <crimsun> nrdb: apt-get build-dep blender
[05:23] <crimsun> pixelmonkey: did you clobber it? It most certainly exists.
[05:23] <third> jrib: this is chatty, it worked but it locked up after I entered password and how do I switch back from non gui mode?
[05:24] <nrdb> ardchoille42: the package didn't run correctly, I thought I would go for the source to see if I had better luck.
[05:24] <ardchoille42> nrdb, Ah, yeah, ok
[05:24] <jrib> third: ctrl-alt-f7  assuming you didn't stop X and just switched to ctrl-alt-f1
[05:24] <keithhhhh> anyone use inkscape?
[05:24] <shatrat^afk> Derek: I dont knwo what you're looking for either!
[05:24] <jrib> !anyone | keithhhhh
[05:24] <ubotu> keithhhhh: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:24] <nrdb> crimsun: what whould that do ?
[05:25] <crimsun> nrdb: install the build-dependencies for blender.
[05:25] <keithhhhh> does anyone know how to join 2 lines in inkscape?
[05:25] <pixelmonkey> crimsun, I must have, I was playing with alsa drivers from source at some point
[05:25] <pixelmonkey> crimsun, I'll sort it out, thanks for the sanity check
[05:26] <Smirnov> i'm having a problem when running a program.. its giving me "No I/O port permissions"
[05:26] <Smirnov> its chrooted btw. anything i can do to fix that?
[05:26] <squee> I'm trying to change /etc/motd, but everytime I restart the machine it reverts to the previous version... Anyone have any idea why?
[05:28] <vittorio> when will the next LTS version be available? when 6.06 LTS support ends or earlier?
[05:29] <livia> can someone help me with a doub about look and feel on gnome?
[05:29] <vittorio> livia, what is a doub?
[05:29] <someothernick> !ask
[05:29] <crimsun> vittorio: not determined presently.
[05:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:30] <livia> vittorio: I would like to know how to change the buttons and controls theme... i can find it...i find it once a long time ago but i can't get there again..
[05:31] <RememberPOL> What should I do with older Ubuntu CDs that I haven't given away?
[05:31] <RememberPOL> (5.10 and 6.06)
[05:31] <vittorio> livia, system->preferences->themes
[05:31] <dsa9> what is the default username ?
[05:32] <shifteh> root ?
[05:32] <Mcmaint> Looking to smoke everything on this computer and leave it as a blank box that does nothing.. What is the best approach?
[05:32] <kitche> shifteh, whatever you named your user
[05:32] <someothernick> thermite
[05:32] <Smirnov> How do I dchroot as root without being root first?
[05:32] <livia> vittorio: is not this place... is somewhere else where u can change the color of each control.. like buttons.. progress bars..
[05:32] <RememberPOL> Mcmaint: TNT
[05:32] <Mcmaint> RememberPOL:  Tried that.. lol
[05:33] <corevette> does ANYONE know how to put restricted modules on ubuntu without the internet???
[05:33] <kitche> Smirnov, sudo chroot /new/root
[05:33] <shifteh> i can;t remember my password
[05:33] <shifteh> and it's my 1st boot
[05:33] <shifteh> what the FUCK
[05:33] <Mcmaint> Is there a way to format the drive from the LiveCD?  To leave the drive blank?
[05:33] <Smirnov> How do I give myself access to /dev things ?
[05:33] <squee> I'm trying to change /etc/motd, but everytime I restart the machine it reverts to the previous version... Anyone have any idea why?
[05:33] <Mcmaint> !language
[05:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <patbam> can anyone tell me waht the deal is with ruby and ubuntu dapper? i've found a lot of conflicting information with google, highly confused
[05:34] <patbam> (trying to run rails)
[05:34] <shifteh> anyway to change my password
[05:34] <shifteh> or rather list the user name?
[05:34] <shifteh> of a system
[05:35] <ultran00b> can someone pls help me. big problem. i just install ubuntu this week and i love it, but it quit working. won't load at all.
[05:35] <vittorio> livia, dunno, never seen this
[05:35] <ultran00b> went to friends house and got a new cd so i am on live cd now
[05:35] <Mcmaint> shifteh:  The root pw?
[05:35] <shifteh> i set a password in installation
[05:35] <shifteh> i am pretty sure of it
[05:35] <shifteh> -.-
[05:35] <shifteh> and now it keeps saying wrong password
[05:35] <shifteh> -.-
[05:35] <nrdb> crimsun: I downloaded the source from the blender site, when I run that command it said that it couldn't find the blender package, what I thought is if I enabled the correct repository I could then run the command, do you know which repository blender is in ?
[05:35] <ultran00b> i think my hard drive overheated and i lost a bunch of files or something. any way to restore it without losing all my stuff?
[05:35] <vittorio> ultran00b, when does it stop to load. or what is "wont load at all" ?
[05:36] <RememberPOL> Mcmaint: Oh then try a minimal Slackware installation ;x
[05:36] <Mcmaint> shifteh: To change it would be hacking the main root pw of the machine..  Ever accomplished that before?
[05:36] <ultran00b> it starts the ubuntu screen, but then stops and drops me to a console, lots of errors, i don't knwo what they are in particular
[05:36] <shifteh> no
[05:36] <ultran00b> same thing happen with windows every now and then, shitty 7 year old laptop from guess who? dellz
[05:36] <crimsun> nrdb: universe.
[05:37] <Mcmaint> shifteh: Well then, enjoy the reinstall.
[05:37] <ultran00b> any way you guys can help me get this POS working again?
[05:37] <nrdb> crimsun: thanks
[05:37] <timephoenix> hi all. i have a video problem. i am stuck in 640x480. i have looked at xorg.conf, and everything seems to be fine, while switching to VESA driver does not work. any ideas?
[05:37] <livia> vittorio: =[ it's piss me off that i can't remember where i was before... they've something like that on KDE?
[05:37] <vittorio> ultran00b, sounds like a broken harddisk
[05:37] <ultran00b> yep
[05:37] <ultran00b> i guess that is what happens when your dell smokes everytime you run it for over an hour straight
[05:38] <ultran00b> dude, you got a dell! eh, i wish not
[05:38] <DBO> shifteh, just reboot to recovery mode and run "passwd <username>" *raplacing username with what your username was*
[05:38] <Smirnov> how do i fix annoying warnings "perl: warning: Setting locale failed"
[05:38] <shifteh> k i 'l try
[05:38] <ultran00b> i can order a new HD, but i'd really like to get my old system back up cause all my firefox bookmarks and such, important school docs and such
[05:38] <Tonren> What'st he command line way to remove something from the boot process?  It has something to d owith init.d, right?
[05:38] <Tonren> I just installed lighttpd, but I don't want it to boot up because I already have Apache.
[05:39] <vittorio> ultran00b, the hd in my dell notebook (IBM deskstar) broke too. but i had backups on my server with dd
[05:39] <DBO> Tonren, the easiest way to mess with init.d stuff is to use sysv-rc-conf
[05:39] <Vom> bah
[05:39] <DBO> Tonren, sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf then sudo sysv-rc-conf
[05:39] <Vom> darn sleep proplem
[05:39] <Xenguy> Tonren: or rcconf
[05:39] <vittorio> vittorio, if your hd is broken, you need a new one. if you dont have backups you have to setup a new ubuntu install
[05:40] <ultran00b> it isn't broken, it just overheats frequently, and loses some files
[05:40] <livia> vittorio: thank you anywayz =] 
[05:40] <ultran00b> i bought a laptop cooler, so that shouldn't happen anymore
[05:40] <Tonren> Xenguy: DBO: Thanks!
[05:40] <ultran00b> is there a way to reinstall and have itkeep all the files that aren't broken?
[05:41] <Xenguy> Tonren: rcconf is more basic than the other
[05:41] <shifteh> DBO : hey isit possible to create a user from recovery mode ?
[05:41] <Xenguy> er, less feature-full
[05:41] <DBO> shifteh, useradd
[05:41] <shifteh> k
[05:42] <shifteh> <3 u
[05:42] <ultran00b> for the love of god, someone who knows someting about this ubuntu linux please message me so we can fix my shitty dell
[05:42] <shifteh> :o
[05:42] <vittorio> ultran00b, i would make a full backup with dd onto another drive or server. and then start to try to restore important files on your hd
[05:42] <Chatty> I did "killall xfwm" as root but realized that was the window manager so I thought I would restart to fix it but now there is no window manager and restart isn't working to help ;_;
[05:42] <oljanx> hello world
[05:42] <someothernick> hi
[05:42] <ultran00b> there is no way to recover it? windows xp would recover itself from the install cd. are you telling me linux can't do that as well?
[05:42] <shifteh> thanks DBO u've been helpful
[05:43] <ultran00b> do you really want to lose a new linux desktop user?
[05:43] <shifteh> ultran00b chill man
[05:43] <tickus_24> yep good bye
[05:43] <ultran00b> i have been telling all my friends to try this out, and i think i'll have to not do that anymore if i can't recover this thing
[05:43] <oljanx> hey, linux newb question here, is there a decent web based IDE like dreamweaver that I might find a in the package manager?
[05:43] <Chatty> ultran00b: use a livecd you can do anything with them
[05:43] <Vom> How can i get wmv:s to work?
[05:43] <vittorio> ultran00b, the problem is when windows recovers your hd, problably everything is broken (happend for me when my hd broke)
[05:44] <timephoenix> oljanx: Have you looked at Nvu?
[05:44] <Chatty> oljanx: I've heard of eclipse.. or you could run dreamweaver with wine
[05:44] <vittorio> ultran00b, thats why i would make a complete backup befor i would let a programm to try to recover
[05:44] <ultran00b> i spent all week getting software installed, and getting desktop and everything setup, and now i have to do it all again? that is really lame.
[05:44] <Vom> wmv - how to ?
[05:45] <Chatty> ultran00b: woah your hd broke? haha your screwed unless you backed up or have it setup on raid
[05:45] <shifteh> hey DBO : i can't login wif the account i created in recovery
[05:45] <ultran00b> i got my firefox bookmarks and such, so that is all i really need.
[05:45] <timephoenix> ultran00b: I've spent longer than that trying to get Windows ME to work even slightly.
[05:45] <ultran00b> it didn't break, it just overheated. happens about once a month
[05:45] <DBO> shifteh, and you are typing the right password?
[05:45] <timephoenix> can anyone help with my video issue?
[05:45] <ultran00b> dude, it's a dell, what do you expect?
[05:45] <shifteh> bdo : yeah, it say i have no home directory
[05:45] <bulmer> ultran00b: what exactly you want done? just recover two files?
[05:45] <Vom> WMV - HOW TO ?
[05:45] <oljanx> timephoenix: I'll look it up.  Chatty:  I've used eclipse as a c/c++ IDE before, I hadn't thought of that
[05:46] <DBO> shifteh, go back into single user mode and use useradd to give yourself a home dir
[05:46] <Vom> >____<
[05:46] <ultran00b> i want it to be the same as it was before
[05:46] <ultran00b> it isn't a big deal if it doesn't work, it is just a pain in the boot to have to set it all up again
[05:46] <vittorio> ultran00b, theres fsck on linux to recover
[05:46] <khoa> oljanx: NVU: http://www.nvu.com OR Amaya: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
[05:46] <shifteh> DBO : how do i give myself a homedir
[05:46] <ultran00b> i have no idea what you talking about vittorio
[05:46] <oljanx> thanks :)  lemme check it out real quick.
[05:47] <bulmer> ultran00b: how do you know what was in it before?
[05:47] <ultran00b> huh?
[05:47] <khoa> oljanx: personally though if your more serious about web development it's better to get away from those sorts of IDE's at least in my opinion
[05:47] <bulmer> the same as before?
[05:47] <Chatty> lol I just typed xfwm4 and my problem was fixed... wow I feel stupid
[05:47] <vittorio> ultran00b, when you boot, do you get asked for something like "check filesystem .."
[05:47] <timephoenix> I've found Nvu to be very good. Good feature base, produces very clean code from GUI.
[05:47] <ultran00b> no
[05:47] <DBO> shifteh, in all actuality useradd should have already made it...
[05:47] <ultran00b> it gives a bunch of erros
[05:47] <ultran00b> can't access file something rather
[05:47] <Vom> Can anyone help me with my proplem, id want wmvs to work.
[05:47] <_`XeOn_> hi
[05:47] <DBO> shifteh, show me the entry in /etc/passwd for your new user
[05:48] <shifteh> i can only go into recovery for now
[05:48] <shifteh> how do i show the entry?
[05:48] <ultran00b> if you want to help me please pm me cause i can't hardely read this chat with all the other stuff going on
[05:48] <Chatty> vom: you need a codec pack to get wmvs to work
[05:48] <corevette> where are the restricted modules on the ubuntu live cd?
[05:48] <Vom> chatty which one
[05:48] <Vom> I've been looking, but not finding.
[05:49] <oljanx> khoa:  I'm just looking for something to easily manage several personal sites, nothing heavy duty.
[05:49] <Chatty> vom: the wmv codec of course.. depends on which player you use, I prefer mplayer myself got it playing wmvs on my other comp
[05:49] <nevin> hey, does anyone know anything about fsck?
[05:49] <Vom> chatty you mean Movie Player?
[05:49] <Chatty> no mplayer
[05:49] <shifteh> dbo : sorry abt those noob qn, i just switch and i dunno about the file system and stuff
[05:49] <DBO> shifteh, cat /etc/passwd
[05:49] <DBO> last entry
[05:49] <corevette> can anyone help me?
[05:49] <DBO> !helpme
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:50] <squee> corevette: I always install them from the internet so I'm not sure
[05:50] <ultran00b> how do i recover my ubuntu install?
[05:50] <shifteh> it say edwin:x:30000:30000::/home/edwin:bin/sh
[05:50] <snowman> greetings, has anyone perhaps a spare moment to help with a samba problem in ubuntu 6.06?
[05:50] <nevin> im trying to fix my ipod mount, and i was going to run fsck, but it says i could really mess up my system
[05:50] <khoa> oljanx: ok, gl
[05:50] <Vom> Chatty damnit! Dont leave me now ! :D
[05:50] <squee> snowman: just ask it
[05:50] <bulmer> corevette: umm which files are these ? considered restricted?
[05:50] <DBO> shifteh, what distro are you using exactly?
[05:50] <shifteh> 6.10
[05:50] <Chatty> vom: which player do you use?
[05:50] <shifteh> ubuntu
[05:50] <corevette> bulmer...well i'm mainly looking for madwifi...which is in the restricted modules
[05:51] <whiteline> Hey
[05:51] <Vom> Chatty Movie Player, what was that player of yours?
[05:51] <shatrat> nevin: Im not an ipod expert, but Im pretty sure they have their own wierd format and fsck could indeed hose them badly
[05:51] <ultran00b> ok, you all are a bunch of nubs who don't know shiz, thanks for not helping me
[05:51] <snowman> I've managed to get the folder shared via samba so it's visible to the xp box on the other end of the LAN in "my network places" but I can't connect to it or view the files in it.
[05:51] <shatrat> bye kid
[05:51] <wastrel> hi
[05:51] <nevin> well, i unmounted everything but my hd that edgy's on
[05:51] <bulmer> corevette: they are in a package ..so you almost have to know the name of the package and pull out said package
[05:51] <ultran00b> bye stupid americans
[05:51] <DBO> shifteh, does "ls -l /home" show and entry edwin
[05:51] <Vom> shatrat yup, iPods require iTunes to work
[05:51] <vittorio> ultran00b, im europe
[05:51] <ultran00b> ok
[05:51] <corevette> do you know where the restricted module package is?
[05:52] <ultran00b> good. help me please
[05:52] <Chatty> vom: movie player sucks because you can't google anything with a name like that
[05:52] <nevin> its just that my ipod mounts as read-only
[05:52] <shatrat> what makes you think a european is more likely to help a whiny kid than an american?
[05:52] <Vom> Chatty heh, whats yer player then?
[05:52] <bulmer> ultran00b: beg and beg some more..lets see where your attitude gets you
[05:52] <ultran00b> these americans think they are so smart, but don't know anything. maybe a euro genius can help me, eh?
[05:52] <NdUt> Cce_centil
[05:52] <whiteline> Would anybody know why ndisgtk doesen't recognize my WMP54GS wireless card even though i installed the drivers?
[05:52] <vittorio> ultran00b, my guess is you should get asked on boot. when not try recovery mode (/select in bootmenu)
[05:52] <nevin> it hasnt allways been like that, but now it wont mount as write
[05:52] <timephoenix> HDD iPod is a pain the arse since the main partition is a proprietary format. AFAIK you shoule be able to use the data partition normally though.
[05:52] <AJ_Z0> ultran00b: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[05:53] <starry> quick question, where do i go to mount an internal harddrive in edgy?
[05:53] <shatrat> !noob
[05:53] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:53] <NdUt> hai
[05:53] <_`XeOn_> !ask | ubotu
[05:53] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:53] <Chatty> vom: try mplayer and go to www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/info.html
[05:53] <_`XeOn_> ^^
[05:53] <ultran00b> stfu you stupid noob american
[05:53] <bulmer> starry: can you clarify?
[05:53] <shifteh> DBO : negative
[05:53] <Vom> Chatty thanks
[05:53] <shatrat> Did I give you permission to speak, boy?
[05:53] <Chatty> vom: or xine that has codecs listed on add/remove program application
[05:53] <shatrat> hah
[05:53] <mtdoo> my wireless network card is loaded (lshw) but i don't see it under system > admin > network.. any ideas?
[05:53] <shifteh> i think i got it, it says oem
[05:54] <shatrat> starry: You mount it in fdisk.  Is it formatted yet?
[05:54] <mtdoo> i followed the install directions.. sudo ndiswrapper -i file.inf
[05:54] <vittorio> whats ultran00bs problem? everyone was friendly
[05:54] <shifteh> lol
[05:54] <mtdoo> everything went smooth.. but i can't get the wireless card up to configure
[05:54] <shatrat> annoying kids come in here periodically looking for attention
[05:54] <_`XeOn_> !ohmy | ultran00b
[05:54] <ubotu> ultran00b: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:54] <shifteh> he prob got porn inside
[05:54] <DBO> shifteh, "sudo mkdir /home/edwin" then "sudo chown -R edwin:edwin /home/edwin"
[05:54] <nrdb> crimsun: I have the line "deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" in my sources.list but it is saying that the package blender is unkown :( I have done a reload.
[05:54] <whiteline> vittorio can i pm you?
[05:54] <DBO> _`XeOn_, hes gone and muted
[05:54] <starry> bulmer: I have a second drive in my computer, on which ubuntu is not installed, but I use to store media files. In any case, I used to mount it in disk manager in drapper, but that is no longer present in edgy, does that help?
[05:55] <vittorio> whiteline, are you ultran00b?
[05:55] <shifteh> i think i got it dbo ! i log-on using dbo
[05:55] <starry> shatrat: where would I find that?
[05:55] <shifteh> i mean oem
[05:55] <shifteh> -.-
[05:55] <whiteline> No
[05:55] <shatrat> starry: fdisk -l
[05:55] <shatrat> in terminal
[05:55] <Hansel> I tried following the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto but I'm still stuck.  I am trying to get my resolution to 1680x1050.  Anybody had a problem w widescreen resolution before?
[05:55] <vittorio> whiteline, yes you can. why not ask in public?
[05:55] <DBO> shifteh, if you look for the user with userid 1000 that was your first username made
[05:55] <bulmer> starry: okay, you 2nd drive is seen by your bios right? and this second drive is formatted in what type of FS?
[05:55] <Dirkson> Ok. Near-vanilla install of ubuntu - Scim is NOT working. I installed nvidia drivers and japanese/english language support. Help?
[05:56] <starry> bulmer: it's formatted as ext3... and yeah, it is seen by my bios.
[05:56] <Joe_CoT> ,
[05:56] <Dirkson> Oh. NM. Fixed.
[05:56] <mtdoo> is there any way to automatically detect new hardware on ubuntu?
[05:56] <Vom> Howd I install a tar.gz again
[05:56] <shatrat> starry: You just need to add an entry for it to your /etc/fstab file
[05:56] <bulmer> starry: which drive is it on? and partition?
[05:56] <snowman> yeah, got dc'd.  if anyone replied, please repaste?
[05:57] <Hansel> I have a Sceptre monitor which supports 1680x1050.  I have an Intel 82845G/GL vid card which supports this resolution.  I tried installing the xserver-xorg-video-intel package and changed the "i810" driver in xorg.conf to "intel" but now X wont start.  :(
[05:57] <bulmer> starry: once those are confirmed, you can manually mount them like so,   mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt
[05:57] <starry> shatrat: I actually preferred having it so that I would manually mount it, leaving it inaccessible to other users, as there are some sensitive files on the drive
[05:57] <kitche> Vom, extract it with tar -xvf
[05:58] <Asl[a] n> when i try to send a msg to an NT machine on the LAN via linpopup i am getting a message saying that there's a conflict between the server's share levels.
[05:58] <bulmer> Asl[a] n: umm those are windows questions?  :)
[05:58] <nevin> shatrat, hey, do you know what it is to see how my ipod is mounted... what do i do for fdisk?
[05:58] <Asl[a] n> what does this mean? i've got messenger service enabled on the windows box, and i can fil eshared without any probem
[05:58] <starry> bulmer: to the best of my knowledge, it is hdd1
[05:58] <bulmer> starry: once those are confirmed, you can manually mount them like so,   mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /mnt
[05:59] <Hansel> nevin - lsmod
[05:59] <Tonren> How do I generate an e with an accent over it in Gaim, or a word processor?
[05:59] <sholden> I am using my HDTV as my monitor, and the picture is shifted slightly to the right (there is a small black band on the left side of the screen).  Does anyone know how to shift the picture to the left to correct this?
[05:59] <Tonren> In windows it was just Alt + 130.
[05:59] <Tonren> But I don't even have a numeric keypad on my laptop....
[05:59] <shatrat> nevin: Sorry, I dont.  I dont even know if you *can* mount them like a regular disk.
[05:59] <kitche> nevin, mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod that is if you have an IDE machine and /media/ipod directory is made
[05:59] <nevin> Hansel, thanks
[05:59] <corevette> where is madwifi on the ubuntu live cd??
[05:59] <nevin> kitche, well my ipod mounts automatically
[05:59] <nevin> its just mounting as read only
[06:00] <wastrel> schweet
[06:00] <wastrel> i'm happy monkey
[06:00] <kitche> nevin, ok you can type mount to see what it's mounted
[06:00] <nevin> okay
[06:00] <Vom> Has anyone done the Wine from source howto with 6.10 ?
[06:00] <shatrat> Hansel: if you want to start using a fallback driver you could edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that the driver is "vesa" or you could copy from an xorg.conf backup
[06:00] <_`XeOn_> !repositories
[06:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:01] <Hansel> shatrat - I can get it to start by using i810 again but it wont go higher than 1280x1024.
[06:01] <shatrat> Hansel: I dont know how to install the intel driver though, im an nvidia person myself
[06:01] <topgun553> What is a good ftp client for ubuntu
[06:01] <nevin> it says its mounted on /media/ipod with read and write, but i cant write to it
[06:01] <Hansel> shatrat - k.
[06:01] <crimsun> nrdb: deb.
[06:01] <shatrat> Hansel: do this "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look down near the bottom for lines that say modes  and make sure 1680x1050 is included
[06:02] <kitche> nevin, it might be mounted just so root can write to it
[06:02] <Hansel> shatrat - believe me it's all over the place.  :)
[06:02] <shatrat> Hansel: I have the same exact monitor as you, and I had to manually add 1680x1050 to each line
[06:02] <nrdb> crimsun: ?
[06:02] <Vom> How do i Unpack a tar.bz ?
[06:02] <starry> bulmer: i'm going to continue trying what you suggested, however, is there a graphical method as well in edgy?
[06:02] <_`XeOn_> !install
[06:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:02] <Vom> !tar
[06:02] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:02] <nevin> kitche, no, its as user
[06:02] <nevin> me
[06:02] <shatrat> Hansel: maybe check the monitor section, perhaps there are some refresh rates in there that constrain its dimensions
[06:02] <corevette> where is the search in ubuntu
[06:02] <crimsun> nrdb: deb, not deb-src.
[06:03] <Hansel> shatrat - I removed all refresh rates, I've tried putting in the ones from the website, etc.  shatrat - could you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?
[06:03] <kitche> nevin, user just lets the user mount it
[06:03] <bulmer> starry: i dont use edgy, and not a gui user much...you may have to look around yourself, i suspect under system admin or administration gui
[06:03] <shatrat> Hansel: sure, one sec
[06:03] <nevin> okay... well ill try to manually remount it with write
[06:03] <nrdb> crimsun: I allready have "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse main restricted"
[06:04] <nrdb> crimsun: I thought that the build-dep whould need the deb-src line as well
[06:04] <starry> bulmer: I'll search around a bit more, thank you for your help
[06:04] <starry> same to you shatrat
[06:04] <bulmer> starry you're welcome
[06:05] <kupesoft> How do I do what /etc/network/interfaces does at the command line when it specifies "address", "netmask", and "gateway"?
[06:05] <kupesoft> like ifconfig ....
[06:05] <snowman> ok, this is really getting frustrating.  I can see the folder, even the "comment", just can't get into it.  tried smbpasswd for my username, tried chmod on the folder.  help?
[06:05] <Vom> !wine
[06:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:05] <nevin> hmm, when i try to manually mount it, it says it doesnt exist
[06:05] <shatrat> Hansel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2947/ is my xorg.conf.
[06:05] <Hansel> thanks
[06:06] <shatrat> Hansel: Good luck.  Dont forget to reconfigure your font settings after you get the resolution working :)
[06:06] <shatrat> It makes a big difference
[06:06] <Balsamic_Chicken> what makes a difference
[06:06] <oljanx> Very nice, Nvu is exactly what I was hoping for, excellent program
[06:06] <Hansel> hrrmmm... dont think this is going to help.... pretty much the exact same as mine except the driver.  :(
[06:07] <shatrat> the font settings for aliasing and sub pixel shading Balsamic_Chicken, make them look much nicer on my LCD
[06:07] <corevette> how come when i add a cd in synaptic..the cd disappears afterward
[06:07] <shatrat> System -> Preferences -> Font
[06:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> yeah cool
[06:07] <nevin> what's the file for automounted devices?
[06:08] <corevette> where are the ubuntu restricted modules on the live cd?
[06:08] <Vom> Looking for someone who has experience of installing & configuring Wine on 6.10 - for me its for WoW.
[06:08] <oljanx> here's a quick one, how can I change the drives that are displayed under the Places menu?
[06:08] <Hansel> Vom - there are repositories with the .deb so you can just apt-get it...
[06:08] <nevin> Vom, i installed wine today
[06:08] <shatrat> Vom: I dont play wow anymore, but I got it running in the newer versions of wine without patching it
[06:09] <Vom> shatrah okay
[06:09] <nevin> Vom, yeah, i hear with the newr versions, it runs fine
[06:09] <Vom> nevin succesfully?
[06:09] <Vom> How'd you install it?
[06:09] <shatrat> winehq has its own repository I think, hold on let me check my sources.list
[06:09] <nevin> Vom, you gotta get it off winehq.org though cause the apt-get has an older version
[06:10] <Vom> nevin okay, brb
[06:10] <nevin> Vom, yeah, get its repository off their website
[06:10] <oljanx> I love you guys and I love Ubuntu, time for sleep though.
[06:10] <shatrat> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[06:10] <shatrat> Add that Vom
[06:10] <Vom> shatrat thanks
[06:10] <nevin> shatrat, just tell him to go to the how-to for it on their website
[06:10] <_`XeOn_> i gonna need some help with wine
[06:10] <Vom> deb command not found
[06:10] <nevin> Vom, , no you ad that to your source.list
[06:11] <shatrat> Vom I meant add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <Vom> Ah yeah, im kinda lost.
[06:11] <_`XeOn_> i tried to install it yesterday but it doenst work i did sumtin wrong
[06:11] <Vom> Isnt there a graphical version for doing that? Or am i completely tlost.
[06:11] <shatrat> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and paste in that line at the end
[06:11] <asfalt> hello, have a question regarding sharing files on local lan, in windows i can play mp3/movies from other machines without mounting/making permanent network share connections but in ubuntu, i can't do this with smb:// in either vlc, nor mplayer nor xmms, so hmmm not sure how to fix that, sometimes I for example connect my notebook to my tv while using wifi to plaback movies stored on lan... don't seem to be able to do this in ubuntu
[06:11] <Asl[a] n> bulmer, are they? the titlebar does say 'samba client output'. here's the message: Server's Role (logon server) conflicts with share-level security - session request failed
[06:11] <bulmer> corevette: which file again you were looking for in restricted?
[06:11] <shatrat> Vom: Yeah I think you can add it through Repositories in Synaptic
[06:11] <shatrat> But once you learn to do things with CLI you dont like wasting time :D
[06:12] <nevin> Vom, http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:12] <whiteline> Would anybody here be able to tell me why nds-gtk doesen't recognize my wmp54gs.inf file
[06:12] <Asl[a] n> bulmer, I am guessing that the problem's somethign to do with Samba configuration.
[06:12] <bulmer> Asl[a] n: umm those are windows questions...share-level? not in linux terminologies
[06:13] <bulmer> but yeah they are samba perhaps
[06:13] <Asl[a] n> oh, oh...alright. i'll take your word for it :P
[06:13] <asfalt> ;)
[06:13] <asfalt> so how to stream mp3/avi from samba/windows shares in ubuntu? is it possible?
[06:13] <Vom> nevin Current wine version?
[06:14] <asfalt> i cannot ever get anything to play from another machine unless i copy it all 1st
[06:14] <Asl[a] n> asfalt, i do it all the time. perhaps you need smbfs
[06:14] <asfalt> Asl[a] n do you need permanent mounts as well?
[06:14] <shatrat> asfalt: there is a bug in sambfs
[06:14] <corevette> bulmer i was looking for the madwifi driver
[06:14] <nevin> Vom, if you follow those directions, it should get you the newest one
[06:15] <corevette> bulmer is the restricted modules not called restricted modules for the deb file?
[06:15] <shatrat> asfalt: there is a semi-workaround posted on the Known Bugs thread on the ubuntuforums.org  It still doesnt work completely on large files though
[06:15] <bulmer> corevetter: am looking at my dapper cd, there is the restricted folder, so let me look
[06:15] <Vom> nevin im doing with synaptic atm
[06:15] <asfalt> shatrat thanks for that i shall investigate further
[06:15] <Vom> Which way did you say you did it?
[06:15] <bulmer> not foler..directories.. :)
[06:15] <asfalt> at 1st i thought it was a problem with the applications not liking smb:// paths/notation
[06:15] <corevette> bulmer thats for the AVM Fritz! whatever that is if i'm not mistaken
[06:15] <nevin> Vom, if you follow the directions on that site, you dont have to do anything else....
[06:16] <Vom> nevin "site" ? :D winehq.com you mean?
[06:16] <nevin> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:16] <Vom> *bows*
[06:16] <eggs> !gcc
[06:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:16] <nevin> Vom, haha, i guess you mjssed that one
[06:16] <bulmer> corevette: its looks like there is that big compressed Packages.gz  it may be in it
[06:16] <Vom> nevin after a night with no sleep, i miss a lot of things ;)
[06:16] <eggs> is this where i can come to get some help?
[06:17] <nevin> you should consider going to sleep
[06:17] <Vom> nevin btw, PM ?
[06:17] <corevette> where is it bulmer
[06:17] <shatrat> eggs: Sure, you were here yesterday
[06:17] <eggs> yes
[06:17] <nevin> PM?
[06:17] <nevin> its am here
[06:17] <eggs> now a new problem :p
[06:17] <Vom> query :b
[06:17] <nevin> in the east
[06:17] <bulmer> hang-on..i logged out
[06:17] <shatrat> eggs: fun fun fun, lay it on us
[06:17] <Vom> privatemessage
[06:17] <Vom> 7.17 am here :S
[06:18] <nevin> damn
[06:18] <eggs> alright soo... i went to a site and its a different step by step process
[06:18] <shatrat> eggs: process for what?
[06:18] <eggs> want the link so you see what i see ?
[06:18] <bulmer> corevette: its in  dists/dapper/restricted
[06:18] <shatrat> eggs: that would help
[06:18] <Vom> So nevin, do you mind if i query you ?
[06:18] <eggs> alright lemme bring it up
[06:18] <verve> so i installed nullidentd in Synaptic last week.. and identd worked.. since then i've installed Kubuntu.. prolly not related to switching to KDE, but.. inetd doesn't seem to be running anymore
[06:18] <eggs> im tring to get nvidia drivers installe
[06:18] <eggs> d
[06:18] <nevin> no, i dont mind
[06:18] <verve> though the nullidentd entry is still in /etc/inetd.conf
[06:18] <verve> not quite sure where one enables inetd in Ubuntu
[06:18] <shatrat> eggs: ah.  What how-to are you using?
[06:18] <verve> ideas?
[06:19] <corevette> bulmer....but its not there......the restricted deb
[06:19] <eggs> http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=63
[06:19] <verve> ooh, wait, maybe the bot has an answer
[06:19] <verve> !inetd
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <verve> :`(
[06:19] <eggs> this is the one i am looking at now
[06:19] <_`XeOn_> when i do sudo apt-get install wine whats next?
[06:19] <corevette> !ineta
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ineta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Vom> nevin just a sec
[06:19] <bulmer> corevette: its in  dists/dapper/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[06:19] <corevette> !ubuntu
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[06:19] <eggs> i get to where im in tty1 i go to install and it says my gcc compiler is older than it needs to be change my CC enviroment variable
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[06:20] <shatrat> eggs: Thats sort of like the method I use.  There are easier ways though
[06:20] <corevette> well i have an edgy cd so its in the folder edgy.......but what do you mean bulmer
[06:20] <_`XeOn_> !wine
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[06:20] <shatrat> eggs: If you use that method, you have to reinstall if a new kernel upgrade comes out
[06:20] <whiteline> does anybody know anything about ndis-gtk?
[06:20] <corevette> bulmer....i just have a small packages.gz file...and theres nothing relaly in it except a packages file
[06:20] <eggs> it says my gcc is too old
[06:20] <bulmer> corevette: I am using dapper..btw after i looked at that file, its way too small to have madwifi on it
[06:20] <eggs> the nvidia ./nvidia-installer says that
[06:21] <corevette> yup bulmer
[06:21] <eggs> i would use envy but it keeps crashing on me
[06:21] <bulmer> corevette:  am trying to learn the deb package system myself, im not too sure where to find what you seek
[06:21] <host_> I want to have mouse functionality in a regualar bash screen... like if I push alt+control+f1.. I want to be able to use a mouse in that screen
[06:21] <host_> what package do I need to install
[06:21] <Vommy> nevin can you see my query?
[06:21] <shatrat> eggs: a friend of mine uses a repository to install them.  That would be pretty easy if you want to try that.  Look in this how-to and scroll down to the Nvidia Drivers section and just do that part.http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[06:22] <nevin> Vommy, yeah
[06:22] <Vommy> But you can't answer? :b
[06:22] <nevin> is it not showing up?
[06:22] <eggs> shatrat: im using drapper
[06:22] <corevette> does anyone know where the madwifi deb file is on teh ubuntu live cd??
[06:22] <Vommy> Nope, you need to register me things.
[06:22] <Vommy> thinks*
[06:22] <shatrat> eggs: aaah
[06:22] <shifteh> U BUN TU
[06:22] <shatrat> eggs: Ill see if that guy has one for dapper
[06:22] <shifteh> !ubuntu
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[06:22] <nevin> Vommy, yeah, i still havent done that
[06:22] <ardchoille42> Vommy, nevin isn't identified to nickserv, so you may not se his pm's
[06:22] <corevette> !linux
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[06:23] <eggs> he does i saw teh link last night in here
[06:23] <shifteh> !unix
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[06:23] <ardchoille42> Vommy, nevin /join #vommy  :)
[06:23] <eggs> but i still need to get driver workin if i want to think about byrl
[06:23] <shifteh> !windows
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[06:23] <nevin> where do i register?
[06:23] <Vommy>  mm
[06:23] <Vommy> you can see my pms right?
[06:23] <ardchoille42> nevin, /msg nickserv help register
[06:23] <shifteh> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute.
[06:23] <shifteh> ;p;
[06:23] <nevin> Vommy, yes
[06:23] <Vommy> nevin well ardchoille42  already said it :b
[06:24] <shifteh> !macos
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[06:24] <shifteh> !mac
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[06:24] <Vommy> !mac os
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[06:24] <shifteh> poor ubotu
[06:24] <shifteh> :x
[06:24] <nevin> when?
[06:24] <shifteh> have u guys seen the mac os vs vista video
[06:25] <shifteh> damn funny
[06:25] <thinkmonkeys> does anybodyy know what has replaced mimedb in edgy?  i used to run mimedb -l to open a file with the default app, no it doesnt work :-{
[06:25] <Vommy> You mean, "Vista copied" video?
[06:25] <shifteh> haha
[06:25] <shifteh> ya
[06:25] <shifteh> lol
[06:25] <Vommy> Yeah, the sarcasm is so awsome <3 :D
[06:25] <shatrat> eggs: I dont think that same guy has a repo for nvidia.  What is your difficulty installing from the nvidia shell script?
[06:25] <CapRiCoRN^80> hi . can any one refer me some site which got ubuntu edgy installation and other things with snapshots
[06:26] <shifteh> "oh, well, mac has these stuff on the sidebar, they are called widget. well on vista, its called gadget. they are not the same"
[06:26] <nevin> where am i supposed to register?
[06:26] <eggs> shatrat: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[06:26] <ardchoille42> nevin, /msg nickserv help register  <-- type that in your chat client
[06:26] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: snapshots of ubuntu edgy?  Edgy is locked down.  Fiesty is the one in development now.
[06:26] <corevette> please i really really need some helpl.....or i go back to xp
[06:26] <shatrat> eggs: Im checking that out
[06:26] <shifteh> :o wwif wot
[06:27] <_`XeOn_> when i did winecfg it shows this
[06:27] <_`XeOn_> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[06:27] <_`XeOn_> fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[06:27] <_`XeOn_> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[06:27] <Vommy> nevin query
[06:27] <eggs> thoes instructions are much more complicated
[06:27] <ardchoille42> corevette, What is your issue?
[06:27] <eggs> but i have tried some similiar to them
[06:27] <_`XeOn_> what to do?
[06:27] <shatrat> eggs: Looks like a lot more trouble on Dapper.  Edgy has AIGLX by default
[06:27] <corevette> !pastebin _`XeOn_
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[06:27] <Flannel> corevette: you need to add your Cd to your repositories (with apt-cdrom) then you can apt-get it like normal
[06:27] <shatrat> !paste
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[06:28] <SurfnKid> !ati
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <shatrat> eggs: also, those instructions dont say anything about the driver.
[06:28] <eggs> i ordered and got 6.06 because the web site said i would get more support with drapper than i would edgy
[06:28] <nevin> aw, the name nevin is already registered
[06:28] <shatrat> eggs: well, you do for most things, but beryl is beta bleeding edge stuff so you need a lot of beta bleeding edge dependencies...like aiglx for example
[06:28] <nevin> how do i change it?
[06:28] <shifteh> lol
[06:29] <eggs> well im not saying i will go to beryl
[06:29] <shifteh> ./nick ?>
[06:29] <Flannel> eggs: same amount of support (this chat room, etc), but for longer (three years instead of 18 months)
[06:29] <shatrat> eggs: right, priorities.
[06:29] <ardchoille42> nevin, If you really want the nick "nevin", you can msg a freenode staffer and have them drop it since it hasn't been used for over a year.
[06:29] <happydog> is there anybody using ThinPad X60s laptop ?
[06:30] <eggs> i just want to get these drivers working ... if that happnd i would be one step closer to linux gaming
[06:30] <wastrel> hi
[06:30] <shatrat> eggs: Have you seen and tried this how-to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper?  It does basically the same as the gaming one you linked, but its more descriptive I think
[06:30] <nevin> who is a staffer?
[06:30] <shatrat> eggs: Hopefully easier to understand
[06:30] <SportChick> type /stats p
[06:30] <Vommy> nevin you have to use ex_hav0k nickname for identifying
[06:30] <nevin> how do you know it hasnt been used in a year?
[06:30] <WifiBrain> yo
[06:30] <cokeslut> hi
[06:30] <Flannel> nevin: /stats p
[06:30] <CapRiCoRN^80> i installed ubuntu on my pc last night . but its not so much user friendly as suse 10.1 .
[06:30] <ardchoille42> nevin, /join #nevin
[06:30] <corevette> ardchoille42....i cant install the restricted modules from the live cd
[06:30] <CapRiCoRN^80> i heard that ubuntu is user friendly . but i didnt things like modem system which are in suse 10.1
[06:31] <gelobal> haloo
[06:31] <eggs> lemme read it real quick
[06:31] <CapRiCoRN^80> n some other user friendly things
[06:31] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: the software install system is much smoother i think, I used suse for years
[06:31] <eggs> see if its somethin i feel good doing
[06:32] <CapRiCoRN^80> shatrat: the software install system is much smoother i think : suse or ubuntu ?
[06:32] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: Ubuntu's apt is much nicer than Yast Online Update
[06:32] <corevette> flannel...when i do the apt-get after the apt-cdrom...it still tries to get it online
[06:33] <WifiBrain> fun
[06:33] <Flannel> corevette: did it add the cd in your sources.list?
[06:33] <corevette> how do i check flannel
[06:34] <shifteh> how to i enable my wired lan ?
[06:34] <Asl[a] n> shifteh, where's the vista copied video on? youtube?
[06:34] <shifteh> yea youtube
[06:34] <Flannel> corevette: look in it, you'll see a line in there that doesn't have http:// it'll be cdrom:[soem stuff] 
[06:34] <shatrat> shifteh: Is it plug in? what do you get for 'ifconfig' in terminal?
[06:35] <CapRiCoRN^80> shatrat: i installed ubuntu edgy n after installation i found it like CentOS which is in my office .. i was expecting more from ubuntu when i see suse 10.1 .
[06:35] <shifteh> it say loopback
[06:35] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: in what way? The gui? the configuration utilities?
[06:35] <shifteh> i only have a loopback connection
[06:35] <corevette> yes it did flannel
[06:36] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: I havent tried centOS mysel, nothing to reference that by
[06:36] <CapRiCoRN^80> the gui .. in suse i can easily add my modem through Yast
[06:36] <corevette> but now flannel...it says my cdrom isn't inserted
[06:36] <eggs> shatrat: i just ran thru method 1
[06:36] <shatrat> shifteh: It sounds like your hardware isnt detected.  Can you tell me what type of ethernet card you have?
[06:36] <eggs> ive gotta restart my x
[06:36] <shatrat> eggs: Ok, I hope it works
[06:36] <eggs> if not im sure you will either see me again tonite or next week some time
[06:36] <eggs> ty for your patience and help
[06:36] <shatrat> eggs: Ok.  wait
[06:37] <CapRiCoRN^80> n i tried alot on ubuntu to find some gui where i can easly configure my modem
[06:37] <eggs> ?
[06:37] <eggs> wait?
[06:37] <shatrat> eggs: if it looks like im afk or something you can drop by #shatrat and leave me a message I will see eventually
[06:37] <shatrat> eggs: Just in case you have questions that people in here arent answering some time
[06:37] <eggs> okey dokey
[06:37] <shatrat> eggs: Good luck
[06:37] <eggs> :D
[06:37] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: dial up modem?
[06:37] <bmk> i cant get ubuntu to load
[06:37] <CapRiCoRN^80> yup
[06:37] <shatrat> bmk: the install CD?
[06:37] <corevette> flannel...it says my cd isn't inserted
[06:38] <Flannel> bmk: what sort of load?  CD? Off the harddrive?  what error?
[06:38] <CapRiCoRN^80> i got external USB rebotic modem
[06:38] <bmk> i burned the disk, and when i load from teh bios menu
[06:38] <Flannel> corevette: when?
[06:38] <bmk> ubuntu boot menu comes up
[06:38] <bmk> today
[06:38] <corevette> flannel..right after i did the apt-cdrom....it does that for some reason
[06:38] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: US Robotics USB ? I can do some poking around
[06:38] <bmk> i put it in and tried to check the disk for defects, but it just locks up
[06:38] <CapRiCoRN^80> no serial
[06:39] <Flannel> bmk: how did you burn it?  did you check the md5 before burning?  (if you used a torrent, you don't need to)
[06:39] <bmk> i checked the md5 with the program on the ubuntu website,
[06:39] <bmk> it checked out fine,
[06:39] <Flannel> bmk: what speed did you burn at?
[06:39] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: I see.  If you go to System -> Administration -> Networking it should give you an option for configuring dial up
[06:39] <bmk> i then burned with infra recorder
[06:40] <bmk> speed? ill check it
[06:40] <mikejanssen> beryl difficult to install?
[06:40] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:40] <Flannel> bmk: burn at 4x
[06:40] <Flannel> mikejanssen: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <mikejanssen> i think i tried it the other night and it was alot of terminal codes
[06:40] <CapRiCoRN^80> i did that  .
[06:40] <shatrat> mikejanssen: easy to install, hard to live with
[06:40] <mikejanssen> as in how
[06:40] <CapRiCoRN^80> but when i do lspci ubuntu did detect my modem
[06:40] <bmk> ok, i will try to burn at 4x now
[06:40] <corevette> flannel..care to help?
[06:41] <shifteh> how do i enable eth0 i plugged in already
[06:41] <bmk> also,
[06:41] <shatrat> mikejanssen: if you mess up your drivers, you can't use beryl. It also doesnt always play nice with video, games, dual monitors...but it looks cool :)
[06:41] <eggs> shatrat: guess what ?
[06:41] <Flannel> corevette: what command are you giving that produces the error?
[06:41] <shatrat> eggs: Victory is yours?
[06:41] <eggs> nope
[06:41] <Asl[a] n> lol
[06:42] <eggs> i lost
[06:42] <shatrat> eggs: make sure the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf has "driver "nvidia""
[06:42] <corevette> flannel...there is no error...its just the cdrom unmounts once the cdrom is read for packages
[06:42] <phiqtion> y try sudo swapon -a and i get cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/d2f5a9e2-e179-4b82-a146-bd5b320699ed: No such file or directory, any idea?
[06:42] <eggs> thats why my xorg keeps failing
[06:42] <Asl[a] n> quite a dramatic way of getting disappointed there, shatrat
[06:42] <eggs> as soon as that is changed my system hates me
[06:42] <shifteh> how do i enable eth0 i plugged in already ??
[06:42] <Flannel> corevette: right.  What's the issue then?  You use apt-get to install the package
[06:42] <shatrat> Asl[a] n: I get my hopes and dreams wrapped up in these young whippersnappers and then they go and fail to get OpenGL fired up
[06:42] <Asl[a] n> eggs, have you got nvidia-glx installed?
[06:42] <Flannel> corevette: or whatever package manager/frontend you'd like
[06:42] <bmk> while this is burning i have another question
[06:42] <eggs> yes
[06:43] <shatrat> shifteh: try System -> administration -> networking and see if you can configure it
[06:43] <phiqtion> y try sudo swapon -a and i get cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/d2f5a9e2-e179-4b82-a146-bd5b320699ed: No such file or directory, any idea?
[06:43] <Flannel> !ask | bmk
[06:43] <ubotu> bmk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:43] <Asl[a] n> why don't you run: `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` in case you've missed something. it might just work
[06:43] <shatrat> CapRiCoRN^80: Ill do a little poking around, but I dont know snot about serial external modems :(
[06:43] <shifteh> i config already
[06:43] <shifteh> just couldn't appear
[06:43] <shatrat> do ifconfig
[06:43] <bmk> sorry about that. anyways, i was wondering if you could run it with a virtual pc
[06:43] <shatrat> and if it has an IP, youre probably in business
[06:43] <corevette> flannel it says insert the cd....and i do....but then it still tries to get the packages from online
[06:44] <shatrat> bmk yes you can, but one step at a time :)
[06:44] <Flannel> corevette: what apt command are you giving?
[06:44] <shifteh> how do i show "task manageR" like in windows?
[06:44] <eggs> this is dis-heartening :(
[06:44] <bmk> right right
[06:44] <shatrat> shifteh: right click on the gnome-panel and Add to panel
[06:44] <corevette> sudo apt-get install [insert package]     flannel
[06:44] <caca> sdsaf
[06:44] <eggs> i got all excited about ubuntu and no love
[06:44] <caca> uiu
[06:45] <Flannel> corevette: right, I know that.  What package? and which CD do you have?  Edgy/Dapper?  Desktop/Alternate?
[06:45] <bmk> how do i set infra to burn at 4x?
[06:45] <shatrat> eggs: Well, I can say it was pretty easy for me to get my stuff running on Edgy, but for you it might have more problems than solutions
[06:45] <corevette> flannel....i have both of both
[06:45] <Flannel> corevette: which are you running?  Edgy I imagine?
[06:45] <eggs> what do you mean?
[06:46] <eggs> does edgy game ?
[06:46] <corevette> flannel and i'm getting linux-restricted-modules-386
[06:46] <corevette> flannel i'm running edgy...and i used alternative to install
[06:46] <Flannel> corevette: er, why do you want 386?  Why not -generic?
[06:46] <corevette> flannel i can try that too
[06:46] <shatrat> corevette: are you on dapper or edgy?
[06:46] <bmk> 4x? are you sure? the program says thats the slowest speed?
[06:47] <Flannel> bmk: yes
[06:47] <shifteh> how to i connect using eth0 instead of lo ?
[06:47] <eggs> alright yall im outtie like belly buttons
[06:47] <bmk> ok, ill try this
[06:47] <shatrat> shifteh: lo is loopback, you cant connect to anything but yourself using that anyway
[06:47] <corevette> it tries to get it online again flannel
[06:47] <corevette> shatrat edgy
[06:47] <shatrat> eggs: Sorry you are having trouble, keep trying
[06:47] <shatrat> corevette: then -generic is the way to go
[06:47] <Flannel> corevette: has it been online before?
[06:47] <eggs> im sure you will see me here again
[06:47] <shifteh> !clama
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <shifteh> !clamav
[06:47] <phiqtion> y try sudo swapon -a and i get cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/d2f5a9e2-e179-4b82-a146-bd5b320699ed: No such file or directory, any idea?
[06:47] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:48] <bmk> how does a dual-boot work?
[06:48] <shifteh> damn
[06:48] <Flannel> bmk: you install both side by side, and each bootup you get prompted which OS you want to boot to.
[06:48] <corevette> shatrat...it tires to get it online
[06:48] <shifteh> my network is not working
[06:48] <shifteh> :(
[06:49] <shatrat> bmk you have a partition for windows, 2 for linux, and you choose which one to boot when you turn on computer at Grub menu
[06:49] <corevette> not this installation....no flannel
[06:49] <bmk> ok
[06:49] <bmk> how would i set that up? and how much space would it take?
[06:49] <shatrat> shifteh: what does ifconfig say about eth0?
[06:49] <Flannel> corevette: did you apt-get update after adding the cd?
[06:49] <shatrat> bmk: Ive had 3 OSes on a 40 gig drive before, its not hard
[06:49] <shifteh> a lot of thing shat
[06:49] <bubbles> hey
[06:49] <shatrat> shifteh: what about an IP?
[06:50] <bmk> i hav about 50g free,
[06:50] <bmk> think that would be enough?
[06:50] <Flannel> corevette: Just go ahead and comment out all the http lines in your sources.list, then update again (the CD will be all it has to choose from) and it'll use that.
[06:50] <Flannel> !dual | bmk
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <Flannel> !dualboot | bmk
[06:50] <ubotu> bmk: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:50] <shifteh> inet6 address?
[06:50] <shatrat> bmk: Defrag your windows first.  Then you can use the Livecd to resize windows and install ubuntu on the free space
[06:50] <bubbles> i got ubuntu and win xp in my sys and now i want to install Red hat too...hw 2 install it?
[06:50] <shifteh> nope
[06:50] <shifteh> no ip
[06:50] <shatrat> shifteh: nope, it has that even offline
[06:50] <shatrat> shifteh: You are in fact not in business sir.
[06:51] <shifteh> ??
[06:51] <shatrat> im thinkin
[06:51] <bef> bubbles: a paid version of Red Hat or Fedora?
[06:51] <bubbles> dunno which version...got it from a fren
[06:51] <bef> bubbles: don't install it if you don't know the version, lol
[06:51] <bubbles> its burned in a CD
[06:51] <shatrat> bubbles: I dont knwo anything about the installer, but Im sure if you have partitions to install it to it shouldnt be too hard
[06:51] <corevette> flannel and shatrat - everytime it asked to insert the cd...it automatically unmounted it once i pressed enter
[06:52] <bef> bubbles: you don't want an outdated version of Red Hat, nor Fedora
[06:52] <yello_> Anyone know how to get brasero (cd burning app) onto a dapper i386 system?  The wiki says it was committed to dapper, but I can't find it with synaptic.
[06:52] <bubbles> i have partions but dnt knw whr to allocate swap n ext
[06:52] <shatrat> corevette: so if you "ls /dev/cdrom" do you see anything?
[06:52] <bmk> what is i386?
[06:52] <bef> bubbles: you can download for free the dvd or cd .iso files from red hat's website, that way you get the updated version... and just my $0.02 is that you should stick to ubunut ;)
[06:52] <shatrat> yello_: You might want to enable universe and multiverse repositories
[06:52] <shifteh> !eth0
[06:52] <Hobbsee> !dual boot | bubbles
[06:52] <yello_> i386 architecture - Intel chips, 32 bit.
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <ubotu> bubbles: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:53] <shifteh> !internet
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <shifteh> !network
[06:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:53] <bubbles> thnx guys
[06:53] <corevette> shatrat all i get is /dev/cdrom as output
[06:53] <bmk> !Live CD
[06:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[06:53] <shatrat> try cd /dev/cdrom
[06:53] <eternal_p> evening all...I have beryl installed with my nvidia card, when it is running, my close, minmize, etc don't show...how can i fix this?
[06:53] <Balsamic_Chicken> fgwer
[06:53] <yello_> shifteh: I checked - I have universe and multiverse enabled.
[06:54] <shatrat> shifteh: try "ifup -v"
[06:54] <bmk> does anyone know why i have to burn the disk so slow?
[06:54] <QwertyM> :o
[06:54] <bmk> i  am kind of interested in how linux os's work
[06:54] <bef> !ipv6
[06:54] <shatrat> bmk: because burning at a fast speed often causes errors.
[06:54] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:54] <shatrat> bmk: errors in an audio disk are no big deal, but in an install disk they are a seriously big deal
[06:54] <luzariba> hi
[06:54] <shifteh> hey shat : i can connect if i use static ip
[06:54] <shatrat> hi
[06:54] <shifteh> not dhcp
[06:54] <shifteh> -.-
[06:54] <Flannel> bmk: it has nothing to do with the OS, it has to do with your burner.  Modern burners cache data, and it can cause issues with burning perfect copies, slow burns disable that, andfix the issu
[06:55] <shatrat> shifteh: well, maybe.  That depends if everything else is in order.  I assume youre behind a router?
[06:55] <luzariba> Question?
[06:55] <bmk> intersting
[06:55] <luzariba> I am new.
[06:55] <shifteh> yea shat, i have dhcp enabled on my router
[06:55] <shatrat> welcome luzariba
[06:55] <luzariba> thank you
[06:56] <shatrat> shifteh: did you get any useful output from "ifup -v"?
[06:56] <CITguy> Are there any PowerPC users here?
[06:56] <bmk> ive never used a linux os before, what do they look like?
[06:56] <luzariba> may i ask ?
[06:56] <shatrat> bmk: try youtube.  search for gnome, kde, beryl
[06:56] <shatrat> or google images
[06:56] <Flannel> !ask | luzariba
[06:56] <ubotu> luzariba: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <shatrat> youtube fore beryl though...its hot
[06:56] <bmk> ok
[06:57] <bmk> forgive me, but what is beryl or kde or gnome
[06:57] <ardchoille42> bmk, Actually, Linux allows the user to set his/her own themes, so no two desktops will look exactly alike
[06:57] <Asl[a] n> shatrat, beryl maybe nice, but its not for everyday use. unless you have a killer machine to run it on all the time
[06:57] <Flannel> bmk: linux has a lot of GUIs to choose from, it can literally look like anything.
[06:57] <CITguy> Can someone tell me what kind of HD to find for a G4?
[06:57] <Asl[a] n> bmk, lol. this is where the brainwashing takes place :D
[06:57] <bmk> wow
[06:57] <shatrat> Desktop managers bmk, in linxu there are many different desktop environments that you can choose to run on top of the core system
[06:57] <luzariba> I just installed ubuntu. i am looking for my network to work. firefox not connecting
[06:57] <bhearsum> what package provides manpages for the standard C library?
[06:57] <bhearsum> i've got glibc-doc and i still can't 'man memcpy' or anything like that
[06:58] <cafuego_> bhearsum: manpages-dev
[06:58] <shatrat> CITguy: I think they run regular IDE drives, but you might want to do some googling on your specific G4 before you buy anything
[06:58] <corevette> flannel and shatrat - i tried installing the restricted module by double clicking on teh deb package...and right after the install ...the cd unmounts...wtf?
[06:58] <bhearsum> cafuego_: thanks :)
[06:58] <bmk> anything, eh? is there a program similar to object dock for linux?
[06:58] <shatrat> Asl[a] n: I use beryl every day for everything except fullscreen video
[06:58] <cafuego_> CITguy: They use ATA100 or ATA133 drives. Bog-standard IDE drives.
[06:58] <ardchoille42> bmk, Have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/13
[06:58] <shatrat> bmk: Yeah I read about something like that, cant remember the name of it
[06:59] <bmk> thanks
[06:59] <cafuego_> CITguy: *note* depending on the controller the may max out at 128GB.
[06:59] <bmk> i like the way macs look, but i hate the way they work
[06:59] <Balsamic_Chicken> why do u hate the way they work
[06:59] <eternal_p> any thoughts on my beryl problem/.
[06:59] <shatrat> corevette: I've never used a cd as an apt source, i really dont know :(  Try copying the .deb from the CD to your home and then install it from there?
[06:59] <shifteh> !dhcp
[06:59] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:59] <shifteh> !connection
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about connection - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <bmk> no right clicking.
[06:59] <cafuego_> bmk: they work the same as any box running Linux.
[07:00] <CITguy> OK, well I'm planning on buying a used G4 and I have no experience with PowerPCs, so do you have any advice on what to look out for in regards to a distribution?
[07:00] <shifteh> any ubuntu pro knows how to use dhcp settings for Ubuntu
[07:00] <bmk> i know that, but i mean the mac os
[07:00] <TheFettMan> I am having issues booting from an external HDD
[07:00] <luzariba> !connection
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about connection - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <cafuego_> bmk: Use a 3rd party mouse. Lots of right clicking.
[07:00] <shifteh> any ubuntu pro knows how to use dhcp settings for Ubuntu
[07:00] <shatrat> shifteh: sorry but did you ever say what "ifup -v" said? Ive been watching but I didnt see anything
[07:00] <cafuego_> CITguy: G4's ar quite old and widely supported. They'd run Ubuntu just fine.
[07:00] <bmk> really now? you mean a brand besides apple's?
[07:00] <shifteh> ?
[07:00] <shifteh> huh ifup -v ?
[07:00] <CITguy> Ok, thanks.
[07:01] <cafuego_> bmk: People that don't use logitech mice are a bit special I think.
[07:01] <shatrat> shifteh: nvm that, wrong command
[07:01] <bmk> im using a logitech on this computer
[07:01] <cafuego_> bmk: plug it into a mac, voila
[07:01] <shatrat> cafuego_: I use a razer myself, nothing wrong with it
[07:01] <luzariba> what about my network?
[07:01] <bmk> its just everywhere ive used a mac they had the apple mouse
[07:01] <cafuego_> bmk: Yes, the apple mouse is crap.
[07:02] <bmk> you know dell is selling notebooks with linux distros already on?
[07:02] <shatrat> luzariba: Are you wireless or using ethernet?
[07:02] <cafuego_> bmk: I have a travelling standard 3 button USB mouse. very handy.
[07:02] <shatrat> bmk: Id rather buy from system76 if I bought a pre-made
[07:02] <luzariba> wireless
[07:02] <bmk> what is the third button for? do you mean the wheel?
[07:03] <mikejanssen> hmm
[07:03] <shatrat> luzariba: Wireless takes some work to get going because the manufacturers dont put out linux drivers.
[07:03] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:03] <mikejanssen> just installed beryl
[07:03] <shatrat> !wireless|luzariba
[07:03] <mikejanssen> couldnt see panel
[07:03] <ubotu> luzariba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:03] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:03] <cafuego_> bmk: middle button (be it wheel or something else)
[07:03] <mikejanssen> so uninstalled that
[07:03] <shatrat> mikejanssen: Did you start beryl, or beryl-manager
[07:03] <luzariba> !wireless
[07:03] <mikejanssen> manager
[07:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:03] <mikejanssen> like it told me to
[07:03] <shatrat> mikejanssen: Well, I blame sunspots
[07:03] <bmk> if i like what i get on the live, how do i partition it for a permanent install
[07:03] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:03] <bmk> of ubuntu
[07:03] <shatrat> mikejanssen: or a need for emerald --replace
[07:04] <mikejanssen> like, yea, the windows looked different...but i had no panel
[07:04] <bmk> i'd like to have windows and linux
[07:04] <shatrat> bmk: there is an automatic tool for partitioning and there is a manual partitioner
[07:04] <mikejanssen> bmk
[07:04] <mikejanssen> livecd has partitioner on it
[07:04] <mikejanssen> just use that
[07:04] <mikejanssen> works perfect
[07:04] <shatrat> bmk: Just make sure you defrag first
[07:04] <mikejanssen> im using that
[07:04] <bmk> ok, ill run a defrag after i try out linux,
[07:05] <bmk> then load live disc again
[07:05] <bmk> then partition
[07:05] <bmk> then what?
[07:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> yo!
[07:05] <mikejanssen> no
[07:05] <mikejanssen> paritioning = step of the install
[07:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> !feisty
[07:05] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <mikejanssen> click 'install'
[07:05] <mikejanssen> then one of the steps is the partitioning
[07:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> im bored just wanted a link :)
[07:05] <shatrat> bmk: on the LiveCD there is an icon that says Install.  Click that and it takes you through step by step
[07:05] <mikejanssen> you need a swap partition...and a / partition
[07:05] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:06] <bmk> a swap what>
[07:06] <mikejanssen> i think i made my swap bigger than i should have
[07:06] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:06] <mikejanssen> i made it 2gigs
[07:06] <shatrat> bmk: swap is for the pagefile.  so it cant possibly get fragmented like in windows
[07:06] <yotux> Is there a reason that ubuntu need boot partition for grub to work?
[07:06] <shatrat> yotux: what os doesnt need a boot partition?
[07:06] <bmk> so, does linux save to the same part of the hard drive windows does?
[07:07] <bmk> like if i wrote a text file
[07:07] <Flannel> bmk: linux saves to the partitions you give it, as does windows
[07:07] <yotux> shatrat:  When I used to run fedora I could have a root and swap partions only
[07:07] <shatrat> bmk: no, thats why youre gonna partition it.  Ther will be an NTFS part for windows, an Ext3 part for linux, and a little swap
[07:07] <Flannel> yotux: correct, you can do that in ubuntu too, all your folders will be inside the root, instead of their own partitions
[07:07] <mobal> like you are going to install ubunru drive "D"
[07:07] <bmk> and the swap is for the grub menu?
[07:07] <mikejanssen> did i do beryl install incorrectly? is that why i didnt see my panel?
[07:07] <shatrat> yotux: grub and MBR are always on their own little section at the start of the disk, afaik.  theyre just mounted differently I believe
[07:07] <_`XeOn_> help
[07:07] <Flannel> bmk: no, the swap is for added RAM if you need it.  grub gets installed to /boot
[07:08] <TheFettMan> i got ubuntu and GRUB loaded on my external HDD- I made a FAT32 partition of 12gbs and a NTFS of 250gb--that left 15 for my ubuntu and swap
[07:08] <bmk> oh, i dont need ram
[07:08] <shatrat> mikejanssen: well, I know sometimes to get the window decorator going properly you have to use the command "emerald --replace"
[07:08] <Flannel> yotux: MBR isnt a partition, /boot is nice to have on it's own partition, since you can keep it around if other things go south, and still boot.
[07:08] <mikejanssen> well
[07:08] <mikejanssen> the windows were decorated
[07:08] <mikejanssen> but
[07:08] <mikejanssen> i had no panel
[07:08] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:08] <yotux> If I don't have a separate boot partition grub fails every time.
[07:08] <bmk> my 4x cd just finished
[07:09] <shatrat> mikejanssen: I bet somebody in #ubuntu-xgl would know
[07:09] <mobal> no swap is for swap
[07:09] <mobal> linux writes harddrive when he must
[07:09] <mobal> swap partition like extra ram
[07:09] <mobal> only 1 - 3 gigs
[07:09] <bmk> im gonna try it, be back later
[07:09] <shatrat> ok bmk, boot it up.
[07:09] <The_Jack_of_Club> Ubuntu is suitable for both desktop and server use. The current Ubuntu release supports PC (Intel x86), 64-bit PC (AMD64), Sun UltraSPARC and T1 (Sun Fire T1000 and T2000), PowerPC (Apple iBook, Powerbook, G4 and G5) and OpenPower (Power5) architectures.
[07:09] <_`XeOn_> i added deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main to repositories i did update and i get this message NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[07:09] <The_Jack_of_Club> no one figured out why ubuntu wouldnt run on my g5 imac
[07:09] <TheFettMan> I formatted the fat32 and ntfs in windows so I could use them and now that I boot i get /bin/sh can't access tty sdb assuming drive cache write through
[07:10] <TheFettMan> booting from my external drive
[07:10] <mikejanssen> i have an amd64 bit processor, running the i386 version
[07:10] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:10] <shatrat> _`XeOn_: that means you havent accepted their signing key yet.  There are instructions on how to do that on their website. YOu dont need to, but it will stop the warning
[07:10] <bmk> one question before i go try again
[07:10] <shifteh> so dhcp anyone ?
[07:11] <_`XeOn_> then how do i get wine the stable version
[07:11] <vom> Am i able to use KDE on ubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:11] <bmk> i can run ubuntu without installing it orr partitioning right?
[07:11] <mobal> wine sudo apt-get install wine
[07:11] <shatrat> _`XeOn_: I believe that version is stable.
[07:11] <shifteh> ooo
[07:11] <bmk> to see if i like it
[07:11] <shifteh> ok
[07:11] <shifteh> success
[07:11] <mobal> yes ubuntu install disc is a live cd too
[07:11] <shatrat> shifteh: seriously?
[07:11] <mobal> boot it and enjoy
[07:11] <Flannel> bmk: if you downloaded the Desktop CD, yes
[07:12] <shatrat> vom: Yes, you can install KDE and choose it from the GDM as your session if you want
[07:12] <_`XeOn_> yeah i did but it gives a lot of errors
[07:12] <bmk> so if i press run/install what will happen
[07:12] <shatrat> vom:  you could have every desktop environment ever made on one install if you had the disk space and cared
[07:12] <mobal> install wizard :)
[07:12] <shatrat> bmk: it will take you through some menus and let you pick your language and stuff and then install that mother
[07:12] <mobal> very user friendly installer
[07:12] <mobal> 5 steps easy
[07:12] <The_Jack_of_Club> alternative disc is better
[07:12] <shifteh> !irc
[07:12] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:12] <The_Jack_of_Club> software raiding / ftw
[07:13] <shatrat> I like raiding software from the pirate bay.  Yarrrg!
[07:13] <shifteh> which irc client is good for ubuntu?
[07:13] <vom> shatrat is 200gb enough ?:(
[07:13] <mobal> xchat
[07:13] <bmk> im confused, how do i use it as a live if i have to install it?
[07:13] <mobal> free and the besz
[07:13] <mobal> t
[07:13] <The_Jack_of_Club> xchat
[07:13] <The_Jack_of_Club> but not xchat-gnome
[07:13] <shatrat> shifteh: im in gaim right now. Its not so hot but I have it running anyway for xfire
[07:13] <mobal> you boot the live cd and you use the install shortcut to install ubuntu
[07:13] <bmk> oh!
[07:14] <shatrat> vom: lol you seriously want to try installing every desktop environment in the repos?  Yeah 200gb is enough.
[07:14] <Flannel> The_Jack_of_Club: not as a LiveCD
[07:14] <shifteh> where do i get xchat ?
[07:14] <shatrat> vom: 10gb is enough to be running Gnome and KDE
[07:14] <TheFettMan> I formatted the fat32 and ntfs in windows so I could use them and now that I boot i get /bin/sh can't access tty sdb assuming drive cache write through
[07:14] <shifteh> ok
[07:14] <shifteh> got it
[07:14] <mobal> :)
[07:14] <shatrat> TheFettMan: This is from a USB drive right?
[07:14] <vom> shatrah nah, only kde :-)
[07:14] <TheFettMan> yes
[07:14] <vom> atm downloading.
[07:14] <mcos> join GnuCash
[07:14] <The_Jack_of_Club> xchat is on the live cd if you enable the repos in synaptic
[07:14] <mcos> oops
[07:14] <mobal> type in terminal: sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:14] <shatrat> vom: Try installing kubuntu-desktop, or just kde-core
[07:14] <mcos> haha, so long since I've been on IRC
[07:14] <mobal> or use the synaptic package manager
[07:14] <bmk> the desktop ubuntu 6.10 i386 is the right one ?
[07:15] <vom> kde-core, took that one : shatrat
[07:15] <vom> bmk which videocard do you have?
[07:15] <shatrat> TheFettMan: I don't have much experience with booting from external, actually none.  You get grub to come up alright?
[07:15] <mobal> bmk: yes thats right!
[07:15] <TheFettMan> it worked before I formatted the NTFS and FAT32 partitioons on the external so I could use them in windows
[07:15] <TheFettMan> now i get cant access tty
[07:15] <shifteh> [14:14]  <The_Jack_of_Club> xchat is on the live cd if you enable the repos in synaptic <--- how do i get it if i alt installed ?
[07:15] <_`XeOn_> wine should appear under add remove programs?
[07:16] <The_Jack_of_Club> do what?
[07:16] <shatrat> TheFettMan: Maybe you need to reinstall Grub using the installation CD?
[07:16] <The_Jack_of_Club> alternative disc isnt a live disc
[07:16] <shatrat> ubrigens, sind Sie deutsch?
[07:16] <TheFettMan> tried it--now it just gets stuck at aload screen
[07:16] <mobal> _`XeOn_ wine i think no
[07:16] <mobal> shatrat: please english
[07:16] <bmk> ok im going to try this cd out
[07:16] <mobal> yes :D
[07:16] <mobal> good luck!
[07:17] <vom> shatrat:  did you say you played WoW ?
[07:17] <shatrat> TheFettMan: the install CD gets stuck now?
[07:17] <_`XeOn_> mobal [TNT] ~* i just did install but the next part i dont get it
[07:17] <shatrat> vom: I used to, sold my account
[07:17] <mcos> hello? can somebody answer a trivial question please, it's been like over ten years since I've used IRC, how would I join a network such as irc.gnome.org?
[07:17] <vom> Okay, I got scammed a while ago :b
[07:17] <shifteh> what games runs on linux ?
[07:17] <shifteh> warcraft ?
[07:17] <shifteh> :x
[07:17] <wastrel> mcos:  /server irc.gnome.org
[07:17] <vom> shatrat:  tho thats not the point, do you need DRI to play it?
[07:18] <vom> shifteh:  WoW account
[07:18] <mcos> thank you wastrel
[07:18] <The_Jack_of_Club> boo
[07:18] <shatrat> vom: direct rendering, definitely. You have to have the right drivers installed and configured.
[07:18] <TheFettMan> no I get it installed on the external drive after i format the NTFS and FAT32 but when it boots from USB it goes to the loading screen and just sticks
[07:18] <makuseru> how do i get an ipod to mount in linux?
[07:18] <vom> shifteh:  there went my 61 priest :((
[07:18] <shifteh> what is the best msn live messenger on ubun ?
[07:18] <shatrat> TheFettMan: So you get stuck on the Ubuntu splash screen?
[07:18] <vom> shatrat:  well i have ATi ones, wihch that HowTo told me to use. But still DRI isnt working
[07:18] <TheFettMan> yeah
[07:18] <makuseru> shifteh: Gaim
[07:19] <cablesm102> shifteh, Gaim not doing it for you?
[07:19] <vom> TheFettMan: your videocard?
[07:19] <shatrat> vom: keep trying, the ati ones are a pain.
[07:19] <shifteh> ok gaim it shall be
[07:19] <shifteh> haha
[07:19] <vom> shatrat:  so ive heard
[07:19] <TheFettMan> nah it worked before I formatted the NTFS and FAT32 partition on the external
[07:19] <The_Jack_of_Club> gaim wont allow incoming accept thingys for me so i ended up switching to amsn
[07:19] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 sup
[07:19] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, hey, enjoying your splashless bootup?
[07:20] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* yeah its cool
[07:20] <vom> alternative > all :b
[07:20] <shatrat> TheFettMan: But you're sure you had it working before on the same hardware?  I am not sure how to try and solve the problem.
[07:20] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, what brings you here today?
[07:20] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* but i got i new inssue
[07:20] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* wine installation
[07:20] <TheFettMan> yes it worked on my internal drive as well--even had beryl running until it messesd up my windows partition hence why I am trying t on a USB external
[07:21] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_ installing wine, or installing stuff in wine?
[07:21] <The_Jack_of_Club> the winehq repos have been down a while
[07:21] <shatrat> TheFettMan: You reinstalled Grub after you formatted the NTFS and Fat32 right?
[07:21] <TheFettMan> indeed
[07:21] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* i installed wine but now i dunno how to install stuff in there
[07:21] <TheFettMan> GRUB loads but it gets stuck at the Ubuntu orange loading bar
[07:22] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_, just grab a Windows EXE and run it under wine. From the command line that's "wine EXE HERE". Not all apps work. In fact, most don't. So good luck...
[07:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> $ wine "c:\something.exe" i bleeve
[07:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> do a search on appdb.winehq.org
[07:22] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_ winehq.org has a database of apps and how best to run them under wine.
[07:22] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* i did but it says err in most files
[07:22] <cablesm102> ah, TJOC beat me
[07:23] <The_Jack_of_Club> itll give you steps for different progs under wine
[07:23] <TheFettMan> but before I reinstalled I got a /bin/sh can't access tty sdb assuming drive cache write through--which bothers me because wouldn't sdb mean it is trying to write thru cahce on my 2nd drive (which in the BIOS is my windows drive)
[07:23] <The_Jack_of_Club> heh
[07:23] <bmk> i cant even get the ubuntu screen now
[07:23] <bmk> went to my bios
[07:23] <_`XeOn_> !wine
[07:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:23] <cablesm102> _`XeOn_ most stuff doesn't really work that well. Look at appdb.winehq.org for instructions on how to use different apps with wine
[07:23] <bmk> chose cd drive
[07:23] <shatrat> sdb is second sata/scsi drive I believe, unless USB drives are also listed as sd, can't remember
[07:23] <bmk> and it just booted windows
[07:24] <shatrat> TheFettMan: I dont think I can help :(  I cant think of anything else to try but put in the the liveCD and mount it and look at /boot
[07:24] <The_Jack_of_Club> could it be your fstab is mounting the drive wrong causeing a crash?
[07:24] <TheFettMan> what bothers me is that it worked before I formatted those partitions to amke them sueful
[07:25] <bmk> !live cd
[07:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[07:25] <TheFettMan> useful*
[07:25] <shatrat> TheFettMan: hehe, you could have accessed them from windows as ext3 with fs-driver.org anyway.
[07:25] <bmk> anybody have a clue what happened?
[07:25] <shatrat> bmk: something wrong in teh boot order I assume
[07:25] <TheFettMan> I need the NTFS partition to backup my windows programs
[07:25] <The_Jack_of_Club> theres a neat ext2/ext3/reiserfs driver i never got around to trying for windows
[07:26] <shatrat> or something wrong with disk, open it in explorer and make sure that there are indeed files on it
[07:26] <gharz> where is the menu.lst located? i'm lost again with the file system. ty/
[07:26] <shatrat> gharz: /boot/grub
[07:26] <gharz> thanks
[07:26] <r00tintheb0x> bmk, it booted from the CD is what happened.
[07:26] <bmk> whenever i put a linux disk in, windows trs to read it and goes crazy
 should I download ubuntu again and reburn?
[07:26] <cablesm102> bmk, are you booting from the CD?
[07:27] <bmk> yes , i put in the cd i burned at 4x
[07:27] <bmk> went to bios
[07:27] <gharz> shatrat, i'm sorry... i was looking for the repositories list...
[07:27] <bmk> hit boot from cd drive
[07:27] <The_Jack_of_Club> http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html
[07:27] <bmk> then it just started windows
[07:27] <Flannel> bmk: the CD does have some windows software on it.  hold shift while inserting in windows to stop the autorun
[07:27] <cablesm102> bmk, have you made sure you burned the ISO as an image and not as a file?
[07:27] <The_Jack_of_Club> apparently does ufs if you use the awesome freebsd fs :)
[07:27] <TheFettMan> this is getting frustrating in order to get the drive accessable from windows and get ubuntu off I have to format the 300gb drive.. takes 3 hours
[07:28] <bmk> yes it is buned as an image, and i am checking for files now,
[07:28] <cablesm102> bmk, if the BIOS refuses to try to load the OS from the CD, it's a BIOS issue. Or a CD drive issue.
[07:28] <bmk> no files>
[07:29] <shatrat> thats an issue
[07:29] <cablesm102> bmk, there are supposed to be files on the Ubuntu disk, even from the Windows side
[07:29] <bmk> which is what i am not getting
[07:29] <cablesm102> bmk, try  burning the disk on another comp
[07:29] <bmk> it displayed the files in infra
[07:29] <shatrat> gharz: sorry I missed that a sec ago, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:30] <shatrat> sounds like infra isnt that great
[07:30] <shatrat> I use deepburner myself
[07:30] <shatrat> in windows
[07:30] <gharz> shatrat, thanks!!!!
[07:30] <shifteh> i <3 ubuntu
[07:30] <bmk> the first one i burned at max speed got to the ubuntu screen
[07:30] <shatrat> gharz: no problem
[07:30] <bmk> this one wont even load
[07:30] <shatrat> shifteh: You in xchat now?
[07:30] <shifteh> do u love ur ubuntu ?
[07:30] <cablesm102> bmk, what brand of disk do you use?
[07:30] <shifteh> i got it already, haven connect , downloading all the updates
[07:30] <bmk> *)min?&))mb cd_r
[07:30] <shifteh> "windows update"
[07:30] <shifteh> LOL
[07:30] <shatrat> shifteh: well thats good news
[07:31] <cablesm102> bmk, i'm not joking... some brands suck and don't burn well
[07:31] <vom> Yey, KDE!
[07:31] <bmk> ! moment
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <shatrat> shifteh: hey, windows update updates windows.  apt-get update updates everything you have on your computer
[07:31] <bmk> forget to to turn num lock on
[07:31] <shifteh> lol :o
[07:31] <bmk> i cant type numbers!
[07:31] <shifteh> keke
[07:31] <shatrat> and its still 10 times faster than windows update
[07:31] <shifteh> i am loving it
[07:32] <shatrat> bmk: sounds like you chose the wrong keyboard type
[07:32] <shifteh> when i get home i am try the wireless
[07:32] <bmk> omg i cant type numbers
[07:32] <cablesm102> only prob with Ubuntu update manager is that it keeps popping up during an update install.
[07:32] <bmk> i was typing them a min ago
[07:32] <cablesm102> bmk, i think your computers just hate you :)
[07:32] <shatrat> cablesm102: I dont have that problem, maybe with the focus stealing prevention in beryl
[07:32] <shifteh> [14:27]  <bmk> yes , i put in the cd i burned at 4x <-- yeah , he typed 4
[07:33] <cablesm102> shatrat, yeah, I'm using plain old non-beryl gnome
[07:33] <shatrat> how blase
[07:33] <shatrat> gauche even
[07:33] <ramza3___> an application requires 'freetype', is that libfreetype6?
[07:33] <bmk> why cant i type numbers?
[07:33] <shatrat> bmk: arent you in windows still?
[07:33] <bmk> yes
[07:33] <AmbientMstr> Is there any way to resize partitions after I've installed Ubuntu for dual boot?
[07:33] <shatrat> Microsoft charges by the decimal digit now. Sorry.
[07:34] <bmk> !
[07:34] <cablesm102> AmbientMstr, yes. Download the GParted LiveCD (google it). That's the easiest way. Back up first though.
[07:34] <bmk> im going to restart
[07:34] <bmk> maybe its because i tryed loading the disk
[07:34] <bmk> then it went to windows
[07:35] <AmbientMstr> cablesm102: Of course I'd back up. I just think I made a mistake last night and need to make my Windows partition a lil bigger.
[07:35] <eisma> i get this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:35] <cablesm102> AmbientMstr, the only prob. is, data can get in the way of resizing
[07:35] <eisma> how do i fix the problem without running it?
[07:35] <cablesm102> eisma, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:35] <matt1234> i have a feature question.....
[07:35] <cablesm102> eisma, why not?
[07:35] <oljanx> cablesm102: Generally how safe is that?  I've blown more than one partition resizing, so far gparted has worked.
[07:35] <cablesm102> eisma, why don't you want to run it?
[07:35] <TheFettMan> so shatrat not fix?
[07:35] <matt1234> is it possible to change permissions/owner of files/folders without going to the command line?
[07:35] <TheFettMan> no*
[07:35] <eisma> cause it download a program that takes days to download
[07:35] <cablesm102> oljanx, I'm not sure how safe it is.
[07:35] <vom> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:36] <vom> >____________________<
[07:36] <eisma> so i dont want to wait for it
[07:36] <cablesm102> eisma, do what it tells you.
[07:36] <eisma> cablesm102 is there a way around it?
[07:36] <eisma> cablesm102 cause i already know wha it does
[07:37] <cablesm102> eisma, nope. You don't want an entirely screwed up half-installed package.
[07:37] <oljanx> AmbientMstr: do you want to go first? :] 
[07:37] <eisma> cablesm102 can i just uninstall it then?
[07:37] <cablesm102> eisma, in the time you're spending asking us, the program would be halfway done already.
[07:37] <vom> Can anyone help me with my DRI proplem, I have Ati x800 GTO and I've installed the drivers three times.
[07:37] <tehquickness> hello, does anyone use Usenet?
[07:37] <AmbientMstr> oljanx: Hmm?
[07:37] <cablesm102> eisma, no package manager will work until you run that command.
[07:37] <eisma> so i cant uninstall it?
[07:37] <shatrat> tehquickness: I do
[07:38] <ramza3___> if a program has '-lubuntu' trying to compile, what library is that in apt?
[07:38] <oljanx> AmbientMstr: with the partition resizing, I've been wanting to do the same thing, now that I've realized how much I love Ubuntu
[07:38] <cablesm102> eisma, not until you let DPKG fix it.
[07:38] <bmk> 1234567890
[07:38] <eisma> that just downloads it
[07:38] <bmk> ok good
[07:38] <cablesm102> bmk, i think I see numbers!
[07:38] <AmbientMstr> AmbientMstr: Hehe, I'm gonna give it a lil while. I'm still new to this whole thing.
[07:38] <bmk> i just rebooted
[07:38] <shatrat> vom: which ones, fglrx? I believe there are open source drivers available for that.
[07:38] <cablesm102> eisma, no it doesn't. It fixes half-installed packages
[07:38] <oljanx> me too :] 
[07:39] <matt1234> ok maybe someone can answer this then.... is there some technical reason for not adding a button or something to change permissions from user to root in the file properities dialog box?
[07:39] <vom> shatrat but will WoW work on them ? ;)
[07:39] <eisma> well im running it right now.. and its downloading flash
[07:39] <cablesm102> matt1234... that's a good idea
[07:39] <cablesm102> eisma, that's because flash must have been half installed
[07:39] <eisma> and i dont want it installed
[07:39] <cablesm102> eisma, remove it when DPKG is done.
[07:39] <bmk> this is hard to belive
[07:39] <eisma> great, that'll take days
[07:39] <tehquickness> shatrat: do you use it for getting files?
[07:39] <eisma> thanks anyway
[07:40] <cablesm102> eisma, what the hell sort of internet connection do you have?
[07:40] <matt1234> cablesm102, yea, i noticed if i download stuff for whatever reason as root, there isnt any way to change it to my normal user graphically
[07:40] <eisma> cable ass
[07:40] <bmk> i got linux going on an xbox and a ipod, but i cant on a computer?
[07:40] <bmk> makes no sense
[07:40] <eisma> its just weird when it downloads flash, i dunno
[07:40] <shatrat> vom: checking
[07:40] <shatrat> tehquickness: I might...
[07:40] <cablesm102> bmk, I think your burned disk sucks. Burn the disk on another comp, or with different media.
[07:41] <tehquickness> shatrat: care to private chat?
[07:41] <bmk> as in a different brand? whats a good one
[07:41] <shatrat> tehquickness:  join #shatrat
[07:41] <tehquickness> ok
[07:41] <cablesm102> bmk, there was a chart somewhere. I use imation, works for me. Tell me what brand you're using, I might be able to recognize a bad one
[07:42] <matt1234> ok i guess i need to go to #ubuntu+1 with feature requests?
[07:42] <Flannel> eisma: dpkg has a lot of stuff, you should be able to remove it wihout installing it
[07:42] <shatrat> vom: I think I was mistaken. Keep trying with FGLRX.  Good luck :)
[07:42] <bmk> some from comp.usa,
[07:42] <eisma> Flannel how?
[07:42] <riotkittie> matt1234: cant permissions be changed in nautilus?
[07:43] <vom> shatrat:  darn youre lame :d
[07:43] <Flannel> eisma: probably with --force-remove-reinstreq, depends on which state the package is currently in
[07:43] <JohnnyX_> im having trouble with my cdrom
[07:43] <JohnnyX_> all the sudden it wount read cd's
[07:43] <JohnnyX_> it just keeps scanning them over and over
[07:44] <JohnnyX_> ;;
[07:44] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, is this only on Ubuntu? Because I think it's a hardware problem, which means you need to take it somewhere else.
[07:44] <JohnnyX_> only ubuntu
[07:44] <JohnnyX_> it just started happening
[07:44] <JohnnyX_> it was reading cd's a second ago
[07:44] <Darren_Derwood> hey is there anything like limewire for ubuntu
[07:45] <JohnnyX_> yes Darren_Derwood
[07:45] <JohnnyX_> frostwire
[07:45] <JohnnyX_> check dapper
[07:45] <oljanx> and suddenly without hesitation she...
[07:45] <Darren_Derwood> thx
[07:45] <oljanx> whoops pasted that to the wrong box...
[07:45] <bmk> ! ubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[07:45] <riotkittie> alrighty  then.
[07:45] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, do you have another OS on your system?
[07:45] <matt1234> riotkittie, permissions can be changed.....
[07:45] <JohnnyX_> no cablesm102
[07:46] <JohnnyX_> i put in a dvd watched it put in another and now it wont read them
[07:46] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, so how can you be sure it's Ubuntu?
[07:46] <ramza3___> what apt package do I need to install 'opengl' compile '-lGL'
[07:46] <JohnnyX_> because when i had windows on it it would read fine
[07:46] <JohnnyX_> this only happens with ubuntu
[07:46] <matt1234> riotkittie, but it seems like if the files are owned by root, then the option is grayed out
[07:46] <matt1234> no password prompt or anything
[07:46] <cablesm102> JohnnyX, how long ago did you have windows on it?
[07:46] <Flannel> matt1234: if the package is owned by root, you probably shouldn't be changing permissions
[07:46] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: uh. are you dualbooting or is windows long gone?
[07:46] <JohnnyX_> couple weeks ago
[07:46] <JohnnyX_> long gone
[07:47] <JohnnyX_> it was just fine
[07:47] <Asl[a] n> are there any apps to download and save videos on youtube? i think there are some in windows
[07:47] <JohnnyX_> now even when i try to manually mount it i get no medium found
[07:47] <bmk> there is the firefox plugin
[07:47] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, did it ever work on Ubuntu?
[07:47] <matt1234> fLAnnel, agreed, but i've downloaded files from fedora on another drive, and for whatever reason they're owned by room
[07:47] <matt1234> *root
[07:47] <JohnnyX_> yes cablesm102
[07:47] <JohnnyX_> just five minutes ago
[07:47] <JohnnyX_> now its not reading any cd's
[07:47] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, if it worked on Ubuntu at some point it means it's a hardware issue.
[07:47] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: "just fine" is not a permanent state in the hardware world. things break, equipment dies. :P
[07:47] <matt1234> mp3's an whatnot
[07:48] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: did you try a reboot ?
[07:48] <Darren_Derwood> lol
[07:48] <Flannel> matt1234: right, and that's exactly the sort of thing you don't solve with chmod or chown, set a umask or owner when mounting
[07:48] <JohnnyX_> yes riotkittie
[07:48] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, try one of those cleaning disks, try rebooting your computer, and try smacking the case. If it's still broken, get another CD ROM drive.
[07:48] <JohnnyX_> things dont break in the time it takes to pop in another dvd
[07:48] <JohnnyX_> i didnt move it or anything just opend up the cddrive and put in a dvd
[07:48] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, sure they do
[07:48] <riotkittie> matt1234:  try ALT+F2 and then.... gksu nautilus ?
[07:49] <Flannel> riotkittie: he should fix it while mounting, chmod/chown isn't the answer.
[07:49] <Kristov> hi
[07:49] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, there's no way to prove it's Ubuntu. It sounds like a hardware issue. If WIndows was on your machine right now, I'm sure it would be broken there too.
[07:49] <MrSir> Anyone know how I can use a shared partition for files between Windows and Ubuntu? I already made a FAT32 partition, but I don't know where it is or how to view it.
[07:49] <matt1234> eh, the guys in the +1 channel are saying to talk to the gnome developers cause it'd be useful
[07:49] <JohnnyX_> in /etc/fstab should i change it from noauto to auto?
[07:50] <riotkittie> Flannel: i wasnt aware he was mounting anything. i saw him mention files he'd downloaded as root, and assumed those files were on his / partition somewhere
[07:50] <cablesm102> !ask | Kristov
[07:50] <ubotu> Kristov: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:50] <Darren_Derwood> ok im new with this so how would i get it to work:(
[07:50] <Kristov> ?
[07:50] <JohnnyX_> frostwire Darren_Derwood ?
[07:50] <MrSir> @lart Kristov
[07:50] <Kristov> I have no question :)
[07:50] <Darren_Derwood> yeah
[07:50] <Kristov> !!!
[07:50] <`xrobertx`> i am new to ubuntu and wanted to know how to make a shortcut on my desktop to open a terminal and show cal.  i tried it but the terminal opens and then closes immediately and i don't see anything
[07:50] <JohnnyX_> download the .deb package off the site
[07:50] <Flannel> Kristov: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to go for chatting
[07:50] <cablesm102> Kristov, ask your question...
[07:50] <JohnnyX_> dpkg -i *.deb
[07:51] <matt1234> ok wait, i have a second drive mounted, some files for some reason are owned by root, some my old user, both different from my ubuntu user....
[07:51] <Darren_Derwood> ok i did that
[07:51] <MrSir> Anyone know how I can use a shared partition for files between Windows and Ubuntu? I already made a FAT32 partition, but I don't know where it is or how to view it.
[07:51] <Kristov> I'm here in case I have a sudden problem with my computer
[07:51] <Kristov> that's all :)
[07:51] <Asl[a] n> anyone? or is there a backport for youtube-dl in the Edgy Repos? it seems to be in feisty
[07:51] <matt1234> if they're owned by root, i just wanted some way to avoid having to go to command line to change that
[07:51] <cablesm102> SOmeone help MrSir edit his fstab
[07:51] <cablesm102> i have no time
[07:51] <shatrat> `xrobertx`: what command did you use in the shortcut?
[07:51] <matt1234> so a pw prompt or something would be handy
[07:51] <vom> shatrat:  Make sure the universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled (See the AddingRepositoriesHowto), and then run:
[07:51] <JohnnyX_> will changing fstab /dev/hdc .... noauto to auto make cds mount automatically everytime?
[07:51] <ramza3___> another issue, cannot find "-lX11" wtf?
[07:51] <`xrobertx`> i just put cal
[07:52] <`xrobertx`> and said open in terminal
[07:52] <shifteh> harlo ubutun
[07:52] <vom> shatrat:  naww found it
[07:52] <shatrat> `xrobertx`: try "gnome-terminal cal"
[07:52] <greenbean> hello, how do I modify the title of a thread i've created on Ubuntu Forums?  Thanks!
[07:52] <JohnnyX_> is there a package out for ubuntu that allows you to turn your window borders and title bars transparent?
[07:53] <riotkittie> !compiz
[07:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:53] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, you need to use something like AIGLX and Beryl. Very beta
[07:53] <shifteh> where are u from shat ;o
[07:53] <cablesm102> !beryl | JohnnyX_
[07:53] <ubotu> JohnnyX_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:53] <axa-axa> Hi. Can someone tell me is it possible, and if it is how, to shrink menu spacing (space) between menu items, so menus could look more like menus in Windows and ocupy less space?
[07:53] <JohnnyX_> difficult to get running cablesm102 ?
[07:53] <`xrobertx`> ok shatrat thanks
[07:53] <shatrat> JohnnyX_: I think you can do that in a lot of window managers.  My panel in gnome is transparent
[07:53] <shatrat> shifteh: im from dallas, but I move around a lot.
[07:53] <riotkittie> i wish i could run beryl or compiz :\
[07:53] <JohnnyX_> not panels shatrat
[07:53] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, just look it up on wiki.ubuntu.com. Beryl does a lot of other cool stuff too
[07:53] <shifteh> isn't it like 1am ?
[07:53] <JohnnyX_> borders
[07:53] <matt1234> beryl is niiiiice
[07:53] <JohnnyX_> k  thanks cablesm102
[07:54] <shifteh> get Ubuntu Aero today l;ol
[07:54] <riotkittie> shatrat: isnt that psuedotransparency, though?
[07:54] <matt1234> hah
[07:54] <shatrat> riotkittie: probably, but how can you tell as long as they dont move ;)
[07:54] <hugh> I'm have an up-to-date ubuntu MythTV box.  Since a fairly recent upgrade, X server has taken to hanging in a tight SIGALRM loop when playing a TV show (either with mplayer or myth itself).  How should I proceed?
[07:54] <riotkittie> my 8mb ati laptop card is soooo lame :<
[07:55] <JohnnyX_> has anyone installed gentoo and ubuntu for dual boot?
[07:55] <riotkittie> greenbean: is an option showing up anywhere under 'edit'?  or, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-forums ?
[07:55] <shatrat> hugh: no idea, mythtv forums perhaps?
[07:55] <greenbean> riotkittie: didn't know that channel existed
[07:55] <high-bass> guys i have a really weird problem... for some reason my wireless card is found but doesnt turn on when i load the linux kernel 386 but it works fine with the generic kernel for ubuntu 6.10... any idea as to why this is?
[07:56] <riotkittie> oh, alternatively you can gain transparency by using xcompositemgr and transset ... but theyre resource hogs
[07:56] <cablesm102> high-bass, maybe you don't have restricted modules installed for 386.
[07:56] <hugh> shatrat: it isn't myth code that is hanging, it is the xserver.
[07:56] <cablesm102> Generic is better
[07:56] <shatrat> high-bass: probably some modules or something when you installed it were configured for -generic.  Generic is better than 386 anyway, you should use it
[07:56] <axa-axa> Anyone?
[07:56] <greenbean> riotkittie: do you mean #ubuntuforums  ??
[07:56] <high-bass> shatrat.. for some reason my nvidia drivers are working on the 386 compared to the generic..
[07:56] <axa-axa> I guess I should modify gtkrc file in themes directory, but what should I look for?
[07:57] <riotkittie> greenbean: perhaps. or maybe ubuntu-forum.  i forget. i dont really visit the other chans
[07:57] <hugh> gdb on it doesn't help because there are no symbols.  Is there a way to get symbols easily?
[07:57] <JohnnyX_> theres already a new version of ubuntu out?
[07:57] <shatrat> high-bass: because you were using 386 when you installed them.  Uninstall the 386 kernel and reinstall the drivers, imo
[07:57] <riotkittie> axa-axa: what are you trying to do?
[07:57] <JohnnyX_> fawn?
[07:57] <Darren_Derwood> ok i have the dang thing and it still wont open what do i do
[07:57] <shatrat> JohnnyX_: No, thats in development
[07:57] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, there's Feisty, which is in developement.
[07:57] <shatrat> !feisty
[07:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: feisty is alpha
[07:57] <JohnnyX_> ahh
[07:57] <JohnnyX_> im still on dapper
[07:57] <riotkittie> dapper's a good place to be :P
[07:57] <incorrect> are there any tools to make configuring snmpd.conf easier?
[07:58] <high-bass> shatrat: o ok... its weird i dont even remember installing the 386 kernel... is there a link you can point me to where i can read on how to uninstall the 386 kernel?
[07:58] <JohnnyX_> everytime i update i lose everything so im waiting until i get gentoo configured on my desktop
[07:58] <JohnnyX_> x11 is giving me problems though
[07:58] <thee3> i get message: "'cout' was not declared in this scope" when i try to use g++. help me please.
[07:58] <axa-axa> riotkittie: Like I said, to shrink menu spacing (space between menu items). This way menus are much longer than menus in Windows.
[07:58] <hugh> shatrat: I'm using proprietary nVidia drivers (on a 5200).  That may be relevant.
[07:58] <gharz> guys...i'm planning to update my kernel with the latest one... is it safe to delete the previous kernels?
[07:58] <JohnnyX_> Darren_Derwood,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[07:58] <shatrat> high-bass: well, I think you could simply uninstall it with Synaptic, just search for 386 and get rid of the kernel.  Or leave it and just get rid of it in your grub menu.lst
[07:58] <shifty> hi guys
[07:59] <riotkittie> axa-axa:  oh.
[07:59] <shifty> x chat in the house
[07:59] <cablesm102> !ask|shifty
[07:59] <ubotu> shifty: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:59] <shifty> -.-
[07:59] <shifty> lol
[07:59] <high-bass> shatrat: o ya true ok thanks shatrat i will give that a shot
[07:59] <shatrat> hugh: I suspect you already have more insight into it than I do, I wish I could help but I think youre gonna have to go through bug reports and forums to figure this out
[07:59] <JohnnyX_> you have to have java installed to get it working Darren_Derwood
[07:59] <shifty> hey shat any sound thing i should install ?
[07:59] <SurfnKid> would someone help me with an interface problem??
[07:59] <shatrat> high-bass: good luck
[07:59] <cablesm102> !ubotu|ubotu
[07:59] <SurfnKid> its kind of hard to explain
[07:59] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:59] <eternalswd> gharz, after you have the kernel installed and up and running, there shouldn't really be a need for older kernels unless you want a fallback option.
[08:00] <shatrat> shifty: like what? If you need to adjust anythingi try alsamixer in terminal
[08:00] <shifty> !sound
[08:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:00] <hugh> shatrat: thanks
[08:00] <shifty> i dunno things that would make every thing work like windows
[08:00] <shifty> as in the sounds and stuff
[08:00] <shifty> from websites maybe ?
[08:00] <thee3> i get message: "'cout' was not declared in this scope" when i try to use g++. help me please.
[08:00] <gharz> eternalswd, thanks for the info.
[08:00] <cablesm102> shifty, what sounds don't work? Flash?
[08:00] <thee3> code: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2951/
[08:00] <shatrat> It wokrs better than windows
[08:00] <shifty> bgsound and stuff
[08:01] <cablesm102> ha, who would want bgsound to work? anyway, that's browser-dependent.
[08:01] <shatrat> bgsound? like beeps at stuff? You can fiddle with that in System -> Prefs -> sund I believe
[08:01] <shifty> what do u all usually install ?
[08:01] <shatrat> whats bgsound precious?
[08:01] <cablesm102> no, bgsound, as in the HTML tag
[08:01] <shifty> VLC ?
[08:01] <shatrat> oh good god
[08:01] <shatrat> geocities ghetto style?
[08:01] <shifty> -.-"
[08:01] <cablesm102> VLC is a media player
[08:01] <shifty> lol
[08:01] <SurfnKid> but the point is, my broadcomm card has the bcmwl5a.inf file installed with ndiswrapper. Ndiswrapper is loaded and runs, however when I restart the interface is always down, how can I bring the interface up always? Also let me say that on CLI mode 'iwlist scan' shows my SSID, but on Networking there is '' none, zilch,nothing detected
[08:01] <shifty> yea i noe
[08:01] <shifty> what media players do u all install ?
[08:01] <shifty> i use vlc wif windows
[08:01] <SurfnKid> Im using Edgy
[08:01] <cablesm102> shifty, mplayer and vlc
[08:01] <shifty> and it think it is good
[08:02] <shifty> !vlc
[08:02] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:02] <cablesm102> shifty, you'll be happy to know that vlc works on Linux
[08:02] <Asl[a] n> mplayer, kaffeine here :)
[08:02] <shifty> yea i noe
[08:02] <shifty> !codecs
[08:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <JohnnyX_> the cdrom scans the cd but it acts like theres nothing on the disc when there is
[08:02] <shifty> mplayer is movie player?
[08:02] <cablesm102> shifty, yep
[08:02] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, it's HARDWARE.
[08:02] <Asl[a] n> yep, simple and effective
[08:02] <thee3> i get message: "'cout' was not declared in this scope" when i try to use g++. help me please.
[08:02] <thee3> code: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2951/
[08:02] <JohnnyX_> no its not
[08:02] <shatrat> shifty: Yeah, I am kind of used to totem though, even though I used mplayer for years in SuSE
[08:02] <thee3> anybody??
[08:02] <JohnnyX_> i took it out and put it in my other windows laptop
[08:03] <JohnnyX_> and it works fine
[08:03] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, is this a cd you burned yourself?
[08:03] <JohnnyX_> no
[08:03] <vom> ;>D;D> damnit.
[08:03] <SurfnKid> Does anyone use the Broadcomm Wireless Chipset?
[08:03] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, you tried this after it stopped working?
[08:03] <shifty> god
[08:03] <vom> shatrat:  I get WoW on the startvideo but no futher, and the video lags so i must get my DRI workin.
[08:03] <shifty> this system is so cool
[08:03] <shatrat> SurfnKid: I do, I followed the how-to on the ubuntuforums and it wokred first try
[08:03] <JohnnyX_> on the ubuntu laptop yes
[08:03] <cablesm102> shifty, new Ubuntu user?
[08:03] <shifty> and i am only running on a 4.3 gigg partition
[08:03] <shatrat> SurfnKid: I dont even remember everything I did cause it worked with no tinkering
[08:03] <shifty> yeah cablesm102
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> my ubuntu laptop is that  latitude d500 my windows is the d505
[08:04] <SurfnKid> shatrat: would you point me out to which, mine works, however when i restart, the adapter is always off
[08:04] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, sorry about doubting you. I didn't know you tried it on another comp.
[08:04] <SurfnKid> i see
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> n/p
[08:04] <shatrat> One moment
[08:04] <_`XeOn_> shifty [TNT] ~* we are 2 now
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> idk what is wrong though
[08:04] <MrSir> Ok, so I'm in /media, but I don't know which one is the shared partition. Maybe it didn't mount it?
[08:04] <SurfnKid> shatrat: Dapper was like that, easy quick and no tinkering
[08:04] <shifty> haha i am running on pentium m 1.6ghz, 512mb ram and 60gigg hdd , wif geforce fx 5200
[08:04] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, do other cd's work?
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> im trying all different cd's
[08:04] <SurfnKid> but Edgy is getting nasty
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> it scans them four or five times
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> then stops
[08:04] <shifty> what system are u all running on ?
[08:04] <SurfnKid> shatrat: ok thx
[08:04] <JohnnyX_> makes the sound like its mounting them
[08:05] <JohnnyX_> or reading it
[08:05] <cablesm102> shifty, Ubuntu, of course
[08:05] <JohnnyX_> then nothing
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> p4
[08:05] <yakumo> hi, i manage to convert mkv to avi with subtitle but the problem is the subtitle is to big is there a way to make it small???
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> intel dual core
[08:05] <shifty> cablesm102, i mean hardware :p
[08:05] <shatrat> SurfnKid: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 thats the how-to.  My laptop had the 4319 chipset which causes all the trouble so I ended up having to use special instructions at the end.
[08:05] <cablesm102> p4 in a laptop (poor me)
[08:05] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, have you tried manually mounting?
[08:05] <shifty> i hate the p4 series
[08:05] <JohnnyX_> yea
[08:05] <JohnnyX_> says no medium found
[08:05] <JohnnyX_> on a dvd
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> no video card i got burned im buying 1 tomorrow
[08:05] <cablesm102> shifty, so do I.
[08:06] <shifty> it is the worst batch intel has came out wif
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> lol
[08:06] <shatrat> _`XeOn_: make sure to get intel :)
[08:06] <shatrat> _`XeOn_: I mean nvidia
[08:06] <shatrat> shifty is confusing me
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> ill
[08:06] <cablesm102> shifty, it's hot, inneficient, and kills puppies.
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> i hate ATI
[08:06] <shifty> how come u guys are not asleep :p
[08:06] <vom> Hah, yup, ati sucks on linux.
[08:06] <SurfnKid> shatrat: ok let me check it out, the card works 100% however when I restart, log back in, the card is ON, but Networking unchecks it as being on, all the time, so I just need it to be compeltely on.
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> thats the one i messed up
[08:06] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, what kind of drive is it?
[08:06] <cablesm102> Hey, does anybody have issues with Nvidia and suspend?
[08:06] <shifty> cablesm102, i totally skip p4 and went on wif amd
[08:06] <shatrat> SurfnKid: I see
[08:07] <shatrat> SurfnKid: what network manager are you using? Im using network-manager-gnome and it is hot stuff
[08:07] <cablesm102> shifty, you've got to admit, the new Core series beats the crap out of the mobile chips AMD has
[08:07] <patbam> hi, is there a command i can use to list the largest files under my home dir?
[08:07] <shifty> is clamav really needed ? :x
[08:07] <JohnnyX_> whatever comes stock with a dell latitude d505
[08:07] <patbam> (recursively)
[08:07] <shifty> the turion chips is good as well
[08:07] <cablesm102> patbam, try df
[08:07] <cablesm102> patbam, nvm
[08:07] <JohnnyX_> combo cd/dvd burner
[08:07] <cablesm102> shifty, not really...
[08:07] <cablesm102> JohnnyX_, what color is it?
[08:07] <patbam> cablesm102:eh wot?
[08:07] <shifty> well as least not as bad as p4 :x
[08:07] <vom> YEEEEEEEEEEEEeees!
[08:07] <vom> \O/o4
[08:08] <shifty> lol
[08:08] <vom> Im just a happy ubuntu user :(
[08:08] <shatrat> vom: glxinfo | grep rendering yes?
[08:08] <JohnnyX_> the cdrom?
[08:08] <JohnnyX_> grey
[08:08] <shifty> i dunno
[08:08] <cablesm102> JohhnyX_, that will help a lot. God, I need to go to bed
[08:08] <vom> shatrat DRI not working, everything else fine.
[08:08] <shifty> gd nite cablesm102
[08:08] <shifty> :o
[08:08] <shifty> it is afternoon over here
[08:08] <shifty> lol
[08:08] <shatrat> vom: lol, how do you figure?
[08:08] <shifty> :x
[08:08] <cablesm102> someone needs to wrestle my boiling hot P4 laptop out of my hands
[08:08] <vom> DRI not blablaba
[08:08] <cablesm102> aaarrgh
[08:09] <cablesm102> bye
[08:09] <shifty> lol
[08:09] <high-bass> shatrat: thanks alot you were right,.. i uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled them on the generic
[08:09] <shifty> bb
[08:09] <SurfnKid> shatrat: same, I can turn it on manually, but reboot come back and its turned off again, its annoying, Im using the bcmwl5a.inf type installation with ndiswrapper. Also network-mgr-gnome doesnt detect any SSID's, when in reality 'iwlist scan' shows that there is one available
[08:09] <vom> and -> wine whines about DRI.
[08:09] <high-bass> i guess i had the wrong kernel loaded when i was doing it thanks again bro.!~
[08:09] <shifty> shat go to bed, too much ubuntu chat @ nite isn't good
[08:09] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, I think cablesm102 meant the laser color. not that that would really help
[08:09] <shifty> :x
[08:09] <_`XeOn_> cablesm102 [TNT] ~* where do i get new themes for ubuntu?
[08:09] <Darren_Derwood> johnnyX_ ok i did all that and it still wont do anything what do u think i should do now
[08:09] <SurfnKid> shatrat: i have never had this problem ever, I just did an Edgy install, Dapper was fine.
[08:09] <shatrat> SurfnKid: Well, I have no further insight for you :(  Wireless is a big confusing mess. Wire the world I say! Outlets every 3 feet!
[08:09] <SurfnKid> hahaha
[08:10] <JohnnyX_> do you get a frostwire splash screen Darren_Derwood
[08:10] <SurfnKid> no kidding
[08:10] <Darren_Derwood> no
[08:10] <_`XeOn_> !theme
[08:10] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:10] <SurfnKid> shatrat: let me read up a bit if i think of something to ask i'll tell ya cheers
[08:10] <JohnnyX_> and java is installed Darren_Derwood ?
[08:10] <shatrat> Goodnight everybody, make sure somebody stays in here and misinforms newbies in my place
[08:10] <Darren_Derwood> yeah
[08:10] <SurfnKid> heh
[08:10] <SurfnKid> nite shatrat
[08:10] <shatrat> Remember, booting the livecd will trash your dell!
[08:10] <shifty> shatrat, wireless roxs
[08:10] <riotkittie> not my dell :(
[08:10] <shifty> lol haha
[08:11] <shifty> nite
[08:11] <shifty> o
[08:11] <JohnnyX_> go into synaptic and search for jre 5.0
[08:11] <SurfnKid> not my dell either
[08:11] <vom> fucking gedit wont come up
[08:11] <shifty> how many of u have antivirus on ur ubuntu ? :o
[08:12] <mneptok> !language > vom
[08:12] <DBO> shifty, about 0
[08:12] <vom> :(
[08:12] <Darren_Derwood> ok it shows those as i got them
[08:12] <DBO> shifty, you dont need one =)
[08:12] <shifty> haha yea, i noe :p
[08:12] <mneptok> Darren_Derwood: looking for Gnutella?
[08:12] <vom> What other texteditors are there
[08:12] <shifty> only windows has viruses
[08:12] <shifty> H@H@
[08:12] <mneptok> vom: jEdit FTW
[08:13] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, what options did you use when trying to mount the cd?
[08:13] <Darren_Derwood> ok now what
[08:13] <JohnnyX_> sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[08:13] <mneptok> Darren_Derwood: looking for Gnutella?
[08:13] <ilnux> how do I update to feisty?
[08:14] <JohnnyX_> in the list is there something with the black in the name Darren_Derwood
[08:14] <JohnnyX_> i cant remember the exact package
[08:14] <mneptok> ilnux: unless your Linux-Fu is good, stay with Edgy.
[08:14] <JohnnyX_> but its like Blackjse or jseblack blck something
[08:14] <mneptok> JohnnyX_: the Blackdown Java packages are no longer necessary.
[08:14] <ilnux> mneptok:  is it that buggy?
[08:15] <JohnnyX_> oh well im still on dapper mneptok
[08:15] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[08:15] <JohnnyX_> got it open eteran
[08:15] <riotkittie> ilnux: its alpha.
[08:15] <mneptok> ilnux: it's in the middle of development!
[08:15] <vom> mmh, wtf is wrong. Gedit wont open if i use sudo
[08:15] <ilnux> oh okay
[08:15] <mneptok> vom: gksudo gedit
[08:15] <riotkittie> vom: try F2+ALT and then gksudo gedit
[08:16] <Darren_Derwood> theres nothing like that in there
[08:16] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, specifically, what's the line for you cd drive in fstab?
[08:16] <vom> \o/ thanks hun
[08:16] <mneptok> Darren_Derwood: looking for Gnutella? (x3)
[08:16] <JohnnyX_> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0
[08:16] <MrSir> Can someone assist me? I'm trying to mount my FAT32 partition and add access so that I can write to it, but I get this message: riley@MRSIR:~$ sudo mount /media/sda3
[08:16] <MrSir> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[08:16] <MrSir>        missing codepage or other error
[08:16] <MrSir>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:16] <MrSir>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:16] <MrSir> riley@MRSIR:~$
[08:16] <vom> riotkittie: it didnt work :E
[08:16] <riotkittie> vom: is it giving some kind of error?
[08:17] <vom> nope
[08:17] <vom> riotkittie: Its just not coming up.
[08:17] <vom> ffs reboot
[08:17] <bung> do i have to mount my ipod in order for it to charge?
[08:18] <mneptok> MrSir: your syntax is wrong. you specify no FS type, mount point, etc.
[08:18] <Ayabara> hi. is there a way to unclutter/tile windows on my ubuntu desktop?
[08:18] <Kristov> MrSir : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /some/mount/point
[08:18] <mzanfardino> ok, I have a Fujitsu fi-4120c scanner that appears to be identified properly by xsane, it even initiates a scan, but just after the page starts to feed, the scanner stalls and the software reports an error.  1) where can I look to see what error occured and 2) is there someplace I can get more information on using a fujitsu scanner with xsane?
[08:18] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, okay, back up your current fstab and change that line to "/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0"
[08:18] <Ayabara> (not manually)
[08:18] <Darren_Derwood> ok that gave me permission denied
[08:18] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, then try "sudo mount -a"
[08:18] <Kristov> you'll also have to create a specific dir as a mount point just befoire mounting your device MrSir
[08:19] <MrSir> Hmm
[08:19] <MrSir> How would I go about doing that?
[08:19] <Kristov> as a test do : mkdir test_dir
[08:19] <Kristov> in your home
[08:20] <Kristov> then try the mount command I gave you earlier
[08:20] <JohnnyX_> [mntent] : line 7 in /etc/fstab is bad
[08:20] <MrSir> Alright
[08:20] <Kristov> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /home/`$LOGNAME`/test_dir
[08:21] <MrSir> mount: mount point /home//test_dir does not exist
[08:21] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, okay, revert back to your original fstab
[08:22] <Kristov> did you paste the line I gave you ?
[08:22] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, what ubuntu version are you on?
[08:22] <JohnnyX_> dapper
[08:22] <riotkittie> you have too many //s there
[08:23] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, clean install or dist-upgrade?
[08:23] <riotkittie> /home/test_dir
[08:23] <Kristov> riotkittie test_dir is in his user home
[08:23] <JohnnyX_> clean
[08:24] <MrSir> Hm
[08:24] <JohnnyX_> how do i select all in nano?
[08:24] <riotkittie> i know, Kristov, but shouldnt it be /home/test_dir and not /home//test_dir, as he posted ?
[08:24] <MrSir> It said that doesn't exist
[08:24] <MrSir> And I checked, it does
[08:24] <Kristov> it should be /home/user/test_dir
[08:25] <Kristov> if he did not forget the ` around $LOGNAME
[08:25] <Darren_Derwood> hey johnnyx_ ty it works now sry for being stress ful
[08:25] <JohnnyX_> no problem
[08:25] <MrSir> No, I got that part
[08:25] <JohnnyX_> did the blacksun thing work?
[08:25] <daing> okay, got a bit of a problem here. I messed up grub, so I'm trying to fix it by chrooting into the original environment from the LiveCD and re-installing grub. But, ofcourse, for that grub needs a complete /dev and mtab and all that, so when I do grub-install /dev/sda, it cant find sda. Any idea on how to fix this?
[08:25] <Kristov> MrSir haven't you forgotten the `$LOGNAME` thing ?
[08:25] <Kristov> hmm
[08:25] <Kristov> weird
[08:25] <JohnnyX_> or jse black something whatever its called
[08:26] <Kristov> type echo $LOGNAME
[08:26] <Kristov> et see if it returns your username
[08:26] <MrSir> Yeah it did
[08:26] <eoX> are they gonna fix the usplash black and white bug for 7.04
[08:26] <MrSir> Same one I entered
[08:27] <shifty> zomg
[08:27] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, that line for your cd in your fstab does it have one or two zeroes at the end?
[08:27] <shifty> !!
[08:27] <Kristov> paste what you typed to mount your device in my pm window plz MrSir
[08:27] <JohnnyX_> yes
[08:27] <bung> do i have to mount my ipod in order for it to charge?
[08:27] <MrSir> riley@MRSIR:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /home/riley/test_dir
[08:27] <MrSir> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[08:27] <MrSir>        missing codepage or other error
[08:27] <MrSir>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:27] <MrSir>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:27] <MrSir> riley@MRSIR:~$ echo $LOGNAME
[08:27] <MrSir> riley
[08:28] <MrSir> riley@MRSIR:~$
[08:28] <SmAcKaSs> hello all. i bring a new problem to the table.... at least its new to me.
[08:28] <riotkittie> SmAcKaSs: and that problem is?
[08:29] <eternalswd> JohnnyX_, was that yes to one or yes to two? or were you answering somebody else?
[08:29] <SmAcKaSs> installing from the alternate cd (v6.10) the install cd does not sense a cdrom drive. (this is also true with SuSe, as i wanted to install that instead.... cause all i have is problems. i don't believe it is ubuntu though)
[08:29] <JohnnyX_> two
[08:29] <JohnnyX_> sorry
[08:30] <SmAcKaSs> with the live cd, i only get the infamous error "can't access tty; job control turned off"
[08:30] <oldfarmer> hi
[08:30] <Kristov> MrSir are you sure your device format is FAT32 ?
[08:30] <MrSir> Positive
[08:30] <SmAcKaSs> so i went for the alternate cd, to do it myself....
[08:30] <shifty> o.O
[08:30] <SmAcKaSs> anyone kno why both linux distros will BOOT from cdrom, but then not sense the drive?
[08:31] <eoX> MrSir are u on a livecd?
[08:31] <daing> if anyone is bothering trying to answer my question, dont worry, I fixed it on my own.
[08:31] <riotkittie> SmAcKaSs: no clue.
[08:31] <SmAcKaSs> nice Daing
[08:31] <MrSir> eoX: No
[08:31] <SmAcKaSs> lol.... alrighty
[08:31] <MrSir> eoX: Fully installed
[08:31] <SmAcKaSs> i guess i will wait (?)
[08:31] <eoX> MrSir is ur fat partiton a logic partiton?
[08:31] <MrSir> No, a primary
[08:32] <n2diy_> SmAcKaSs: is this a newly built box, or has it functioned in the past?
[08:32] <concept10> im having a problem installing xubuntu-desktop, its saying xubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed.  Any suggestions?  (This is on a working desktop)
[08:32] <Darren_Derwoo1> hey johnnyX_ were can i got to update my totem player
[08:32] <riotkittie> waht kind of cd drive is it ?
[08:32] <kraut> moin
[08:32] <JohnnyX_> you probably have the latest version Darren_Derwoo1
[08:32] <JohnnyX_> you can try synaptic
[08:33] <JohnnyX_> or sudo apt-cache search totem
[08:33] <JohnnyX_> then sudo apt-cache install *** etc
[08:33] <adriano_> nick malv
[08:33] <JohnnyX_> you also might want to install mozplugger and mozilla-mplayer
[08:33] <oldfarmer> sudo mount /usr/local/diskimage-guest.ext3 /mnt -o loop mount: 
[08:33] <riotkittie> concept10: what isnt going to be installed ? xorg ?
[08:33] <matt1234> wtf, why did my traffic just surge?
[08:33] <concept10> riotkittie, thats correct
[08:33] <oldfarmer> 
[08:34] <concept10> riotkittie, I have xorg installed
[08:35] <oldfarmer> sudo mount /usr/local/diskimage-guest.ext3 /mnt -o loop   
[08:35] <matt1234> where can i view a log file of in/out network connections?
[08:35] <bamtol> !gen apache
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gen apache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <matt1234> i just noticed a big bandwidth surge... probably gnome checking for updates, but im curious
[08:36] <n2diy_> matt1234: your log files are in /var/log, though you mave have to enable network logging to see what you want, I'm not sure how to do that, yet.
[08:37] <vom> shatrat^sleep: !!!! I got DRI Workin' !
[08:37] <vom> Damn im proud of myself.
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | vom
[08:37] <ubotu> vom: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:37] <ardchoille42> vom, You got it?!
[08:37] <n2diy_> ! DRI
[08:37] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[08:38] <ardchoille42> vom, Good job :)
[08:38] <vom> ardchoille42 yup, got it workin :-)
[08:38] <n2diy_> vom: congrats!
[08:38] <MrSir> @lart vom
[08:38] <vom> And other thing, I got wow working! :D
[08:38] <oldfarmer> part
[08:40] <MrSir> mount: only root can do that
[08:40] <MrSir> ..
[08:40] <eoX> MrSir did u solve ur problem?
[08:40] <MrSir> No, it says only root can mount
[08:41] <eoX> MrSir i thought the error was bad filesystem type bad option bad superblock
[08:41] <OrT> how can i give access to a user to a mount? chown dir?
[08:41] <MrSir> Not anymore
[08:41] <MrSir> I got past that part
[08:41] <Kristov> MrSir sudo
[08:41] <eoX> MrSir sudo
[08:41] <ardchoille42> MrSir, need to use sudo
[08:41] <matt1234> hmm.... where are ubuntu firewall logs stored?
[08:41] <eoX> OrT u give access by mounting the drive with uid and gid
[08:41] <MrSir> Omg, duh
[08:41] <Kristov> matt1234 they're usually stored in  /var/log/messages
[08:41] <MrSir> mount: /media/sda3 is not a block device
[08:42] <MrSir> After using sudo
[08:42] <matt1234> oh yea, thanks
[08:42] <Kristov> MrSir it means that the block u're trying to mount  does not exist
[08:42] <eoX> MrSir that means sda3 is not a drive
[08:42] <ardchoille42> MrSir, /media/sda3 is a mount point, you need to mount a device at that point
[08:42] <Kristov> perhaps it is sda1 or sda2
[08:43] <MrSir> sda1 is windows
[08:43] <MrSir> I don't have an sda2 or at least it's not showing one
[08:44] <eoX> mrsir wut is ur fdisk -l?
[08:44] <n2diy> riotkittie: hi, did I miss anything about the cdrom problem SmackXXX was having?
[08:44] <ardchoille42> MrSir, perhaps: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[08:44] <ardchoille42> ?
[08:45] <MrSir> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:45] <eoX> t vfat
[08:45] <eoX> -t vfat
[08:45] <ardchoille42> Oh, it's not ext3? Ok.
[08:45] <eoX> MrSir make sure u creat /media/sda3 first
[08:45] <MrSir> It is already created
[08:46] <eoX> then sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[08:46] <matt1234> what does " -- MARK --" mean in a firewall log entry?
[08:47] <MrSir> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[08:47] <MrSir> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[08:47] <MrSir>        missing codepage or other error
[08:47] <MrSir>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:47] <MrSir>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:47] <MrSir> No, it's the right fs type. So that removes that.
[08:47] <SmAcKaSs> anyone kno why a cdrom drive would not be sensed by ubuntu alternate cd text-based?
[08:48] <eoX> u didn't use options so dat removes dat too
[08:48] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: I asked you 15 minutes ago, is this a newly built box, or one that had been working ok?
[08:48] <eoX> MrSir i don't know how to fix bad superblock
[08:49] <MrSir> It might be options, I went in there to make it accessible to every user
[08:49] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: i'm sorry.... it runs xp and vista no issues at all
[08:50] <eoX> MrSir that is not possible
[08:50] <SmAcKaSs> however, ubuntu and suse will not sense the cdrom after booting from the cds
[08:50] <eoX> MrSir u mean u edited fstab?
[08:50] <MrSir> Yes
[08:50] <eoX> can u give me the line for ur sda3?
[08:50] <MrSir> Yes, just a sec
[08:50] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: ok, so your trying to set up a three system box, and xp and vista are working ok, but the ubuntu cds don't play?
[08:51] <SmAcKaSs> well no, i wiped it clean to do the ubuntu install
[08:51] <Kristov> MrSir could you pastebin your fstab ?
[08:51] <SmAcKaSs> then while failing repeatedly, isntalled vista.
[08:51] <MrSir> The line: /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=1000 0 0
[08:51] <SmAcKaSs> live cd doesn't work, and alternate will not see the cdrom drive... no will suse 10.1
[08:52] <SmAcKaSs> but they both will boot from cds, just not see them in install
[08:52] <matt1234> vista over linux? ew
[08:52] <SmAcKaSs> settle down cowboy.
[08:52] <SmAcKaSs> its temp
[08:52] <matt1234> haha
[08:52] <matt1234> terrible
[08:52] <SmAcKaSs> so is this set of errorsi'm getting with linux
[08:53] <matt1234> true
[08:53] <matt1234> your not using some goofy ass cdrom are you?
[08:53] <matt1234> walmart brand or something
[08:53] <n2diy> ! enter
[08:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:53] <SmAcKaSs> i've installed nix no issues on other machines, but trying to get to the root of this hinderance
[08:53] <SmAcKaSs> no.... i forget what it is, but came on a gaming machine
[08:54] <SmAcKaSs> i'm sure its samsung of something
[08:54] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: ok, what did you wipe the drive with?
[08:54] <eoX> MrSir remove user fmask and dmask use umask=000
[08:54] <matt1234> sorry ubotu
[08:54] <farmer>  irc
[08:54] <MrSir> Ok
[08:54] <Cryoniq> sigh.. if you ask me this teamspeak suxx to get to work.. hhmm (or rather I suxx too much knowing how to fix it..)
[08:54] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: and use my nick in your replies, there wise they scroll buy, un-noticed.
[08:55] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: the windows disk essentially
[08:55] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: i deleted partition (vista) from XP... then formatted with vista cd
[08:56] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: .... and left half the hard drive for linux
[08:56] <MrSir> And nope...still same error. So it wasn't options after all.
[08:56] <MrSir> Dangit
[08:56] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: Ok, I had similar trouble installing over 98, I had to do a low level dbug on the drive, to get it to play with Linux.
[08:56] <shifty> hi all once again
[08:56] <shifty> :o
[08:56] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: interesting. how might one do this?
[08:56] <vom> how to extract tar.gz
[08:56] <Noiano> hello everybody....i am desperate :((((((((
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> are you a housewife?
[08:57] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs yes
[08:57] <Noiano> :D
[08:57] <Noiano> allmost
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> i see
[08:57] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: Wait, I'll try and track it down with Google.
[08:57] <Cryoniq> How do I get my Sb Audigy LS working with teamspeak in Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) with ALSA? It want to use OSS. Got sound and Microphone working otherwize, but nothing in TSRC2 client. =(
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: sounds good, thank you
[08:57] <Noiano> i have a strange problem when installing edgy: the keyboard doesn't work
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> ask your question aloud Noiano
[08:58] <Noiano> besides
[08:58] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: is it usb?
[08:58] <Noiano> no ps2
[08:58] <eoX> hey MrSir ur uid is 1000 for sure rite?
[08:58] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: that is weird
[08:58] <shifty> !codec
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <MrSir> Yeah
[08:58] <Noiano> weid?
[08:58] <shifty> !codecs
[08:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:58] <vom> !tar
[08:58] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:59] <eoX> MrSir yeah im just rereading the man pages all the options u used are supproted
[08:59] <eoX> MrSir so itz not options
[08:59] <Cryoniq> I read forums, google, high and low for solution, but no luck =(
[08:59] <eoX> MrSir post it on forum
[08:59] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs rebooting many times in the end the keyboard worked and i installed the edgy
[08:59] <eoX> MrSir im truely out of ideas
[08:59] <MrSir>  #Added by diskmounter utility
[08:59] <MrSir> /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 vfat user,auto,umask=000,uid=1000 0 0
[08:59] <MrSir> Ok
[08:59] <MrSir> I'm going to give it up anyway
[08:59] <Noiano> but no keyboard woriking on the login window
[08:59] <MrSir> And study. But thank you for your help. You and Kristov
[08:59] <Noiano> i cannot login
[08:59] <eoX> : ) k study hard
[08:59] <eoX> MrSir u in colege?
[08:59] <MrSir> I'm gonna have to brush up on my "terminal knowledge" too
[08:59] <Noiano> please help-....i am using windosux
[08:59] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: that is strange. did you try other keyboards? maybe it is the port.
[09:00] <MrSir> No, high school. Finals.
[09:00] <MrSir> Why you ask?
[09:00] <eoX> MrSir just curious don't mind me kk study hard
[09:00] <eoX> GL
[09:00] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs i have no more keyboards...the most strange thing is that with dapper i have never had such problems
[09:00] <MrSir> K
[09:00] <shifty> how do i play mp3 files ?
[09:00] <shifty> do i nid to download some codec1st?
[09:01] <Noiano> shifty install w32codecs
[09:01] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: !!!
[09:01] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: who makes the keyboard?
[09:01] <shifty> where to get it ??
[09:01] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: ???
[09:01] <shifty> addremove apps ?
[09:01] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs logitech
[09:01] <Bidou`> #Educatux - Projet qui a pour but d'installer Linux dans les coles, plus prcisment Ubuntu !
[09:01] <someothernick> !w32codecs
[09:01] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[09:01] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs it is logitech access keyboard
[09:01] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: Good brand. mine works with *nix....
[09:02] <alvarezp> cd di
[09:02] <Noiano> never had problems till now...it is maddening me!
[09:02] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: Check this out, it has the debug routine in it, and it deals with troubles removing winders: http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/43330.html
[09:02] <alvarezp> oh boy, sorry
[09:02] <Noiano> What can I do?
[09:02] <Noiano> i can only access by choosing "recovery mode"
[09:02] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: i would honestly get a new keyboard. its the best bet. i'm not sure if anyone knows a solution to that issue.
[09:03] <shifty> where is the exact link to w32codecs i am all confused
[09:03] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs but the keyb works when I chooser "recovery mode"
[09:03] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: there are a lot of really cheap ones out there. like 3.99$usd
[09:03] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs i
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> shifty: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for the lik
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> *link
[09:04] <Noiano> I also made an apt-upgrade
[09:04] <Noiano> but nothing
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: yeeeeah, but some things are just not perfect with computers. did you try other versions of Ubuntu?
[09:04] <alvarezp> Noiano: weird problems like that may be hardware-related. I would try a new one in that PC, and the same one in another PC.
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: Where art thou?!
[09:04] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs as i told you i have successfully used dapper for long time
[09:04] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: ???
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: It is thee
[09:04] <ivx> hey is anyone having problems with cdrom drive running 6.10?
[09:05] <shifty> tonyyarusso,  which one to click ?
[09:05] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: Did you check out the link?
[09:05] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: what is dapper?
[09:05] <Noiano> le older relase
[09:05] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: i recieved no link... was it via PM ?
[09:05] <Noiano> 6.06
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> shifty: There's more than one?
[09:05] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: Check this out, it has the debug routine in it, and it deals with troubles removing winders: http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/43330.html
[09:05] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: ah yes.
[09:05] <shifty> ooo someone gave me the wrong link :x
[09:05] <Bidou`> #Educatux - We are integrating Ubuntu in school
[09:05] <shifty> haha
[09:06] <SmAcKaSs> n2diy: ty
[09:06] <Noiano> So i can do nothing :((
[09:06] <n2diy> SmAcKaSs: nada.
[09:06] <SmAcKaSs> Noiano: so most likely it is a bug in this release, or glitch if you will. use the older version for now (?)
[09:06] <Noiano> by the way which is the latest kernel version running on edgy
[09:07] <shifty> do i run the command in terminal?
[09:07] <shifty> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[09:07] <shifty> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[09:07] <shifty>     *
[09:07] <Noiano> SmAcKaSs seems the only solution...but i need the update programs such as kdevelop, kde...
[09:07] <Bhaskar> i have dual booting system, i had reinstall XP, the grub is overriten , i have live CD of ubuntu 6.06, how can i install grub from this cd of ubuntu
[09:07] <gukjb> mmm
[09:07] <Juranamo> Noiano: 2.6.15.25 I believe.
[09:08] <shifty> ok linux is fun :o
[09:08] <iceman1> hey guys question for u, i installed windows on and hdd after ubuntu was installed and now it boots without the grub prompt. only way to get to grub is to unplug the windows disk. anyway to get it to default to grub?
[09:08] <Noiano> Juranamo i have the .17 generic version...even after a upgrade
[09:08] <OrT> Bhaskar u need to mount your linux drives, chroot to what normally is your root, and execute grub
[09:08] <Noiano> !repo
[09:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:08] <Noiano> !easysource
[09:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:09] <infidel> how can i play wma files?
[09:09] <Juranamo> Noiano: Ah, my bad. Latest in Edgy is 2.6.17.10.
[09:09] <shifty> !wma
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <shifty> !wma | infidel
[09:09] <ubotu> infidel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <Noiano> Juranamo thanks
[09:10] <infidel> shifty: thanks
[09:11] <hotti> any way to get wma working on amd64 mplayer without installing 32bit version?
[09:11] <shifty> damn
[09:11] <kurimaw> guys, what's the safest way to delete the previous kernel? i still have 3 old kernels in my /usr/src. thanks.
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | shifty
[09:12] <ubotu> shifty: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:12] <shifty> hey, still can;t play man
[09:12] <shifty> do i need to restart my system ?
[09:12] <kurimaw> .
[09:13] <enix> call me a moron, but how do i find out what res my monitor is?
[09:13] <gharz> guys, what's the safest way to delete the previous kernel? i still have 3 old kernels in my /usr/src. thanks.
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> enix: uninstall the package providing it.
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> Sorry,
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> gharz: ^^
[09:13] <eoX> just a stupid question cd .. goes up one directory how do i go up two?  cd ../..?
[09:14] <enix> no no, sorry my fault, like 1240x1080, 800x600...?
[09:14] <iceman1> how can i get grub on disk 1 to boot instead of windows taking over on disk 2??
[09:15] <tonyy_on_kde> eoX: yep
[09:15] <enix> edit: in terminal
[09:15] <eoX> tonyy_on_kde: thx a bunch
[09:15] <iceman1> anyone know ho??
[09:15] <iceman1> hwo
[09:15] <iceman1> how****
[09:15] <gharz> tonyyarusso, ?
[09:17] <WebDesigner> why openssl on ubuntu 64bit didnt work?
[09:17] <BHSPitMonkey> Why doesn't "Keep clock synchronized with Internet servers" work, in the Time and Date settings?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> gharz: For instance, 'sudo aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.19-5-generic' (or with Synaptic) if 2.6.19-5 was the one you wanted to get rid of.
[09:17] <mustaukko> enix, you can check it from System->Settings->Resolution
[09:18] <BHSPitMonkey> I mean, I can uncheck that box, and then click on "Synchronize Now", and it will work perfectly when I've initiated it. It won't honor the "Keep..." setting, though.
[09:18] <BHSPitMonkey> Never has, on any system I've used.
[09:18] <BHSPitMonkey> Am I missing something?
[09:18] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: Yeah, that's a bummer. I've usually set a cronjob for that.
[09:18] <n2diy> iceman1: Unplug disk 2?
[09:18] <BHSPitMonkey> mustaukko, bummer indeed.
[09:18] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: if you want to know more of it, I'll tell you.
[09:19] <BHSPitMonkey> My box's clock, in a week, will get itself 15 or more minutes fast.
[09:19] <shifty> damn mp3 and wmv is so hard
[09:19] <shifty> :o
[09:19] <BHSPitMonkey> mustaukko, shoot.
[09:19] <nothlit> BHSPitMonkey, run NTP
[09:19] <BHSPitMonkey> nothlit, wow, you've solved the problem. -.-
[09:19] <nothlit> oh thats whats not working
[09:20] <BHSPitMonkey> nothlit, that setting is a frontend to ntp.  It doesn't do its job.
[09:20] <gharz> tonyyarusso, thanks for the info!!!
[09:20] <nothlit> sry didn't realise we were in #ubuntu rather than one of the other channels %%
[09:20] <BHSPitMonkey> It will do it if you click "Synchronize Now" right below, but it won't do it autonomously.
[09:20] <nothlit> ^^*
[09:20] <BHSPitMonkey> I'd like it to sync every hour, since that's how bad my mobo's clock is...
[09:21] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: Ok, there is a program called ntpdate that's used to conenct the ntp servers. It is able to set up your system clock to real time.
[09:21] <BHSPitMonkey> mustaukko, it errors.
[09:21] <BHSPitMonkey> $ ntpdate
[09:21] <BHSPitMonkey> 26 Jan 02:21:32 ntpdate[10472] : no servers can be used, exiting
[09:21] <BHSPitMonkey> ntptime gives even more errors.
[09:22] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: cron on the other hand is a job runner that executes all those commands you want in a timed manner.
[09:22] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: ntpdate needs parameters.
[09:22] <BHSPitMonkey> Yes, this is a thing I know.
[09:22] <BHSPitMonkey> ah.
[09:23] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: For example I'm using this set '/usr/sbin/ntpdate -s -b -p 8 -u 129.132.2.21'
[09:23] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: try that out, see if it errors too.
[09:23] <BHSPitMonkey> no errors.
[09:24] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: if you now type date...
[09:24] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: if it's the current time and all is good, then just bolt that to you crontab
[09:24] <shifty> do i need to restart after installing the codec?
[09:24] <shifty> ?
[09:24] <shifty> do i need to restart after installing the codec?
[09:24] <Juranamo> Shouldn't have to.
[09:24] <shifty> do i nid to restart after installation of the codec?
[09:24] <shifty> cos it is not wokring ?
[09:25] <snail> BHSPitMonkey: where did you get the servers from that you're using with ntpdate? did you enter them yourself or from your ISP ?
[09:25] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: And that'd happen by you going all 'sudo bash' on your computer and then going all 'crontab -e' and then making a new line there stating '0 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s -b -p 8 -u 129.132.2.21'
[09:25] <WebDesigner> why openssl on ubuntu 64bit didnt work?
[09:26] <BHSPitMonkey> snail, default, and chosen some additional local ones from the Time and Date Settings thing.
[09:26] <WebDesigner> anyone got experiences with this problem?
[09:26] <mustaukko> snail: That's one of the public ntp servers
[09:26] <snail> had a case of someone the other day who couldn't see their ISPs timeservers, that's all
[09:26] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: well, I'm on amd64, and I'm kicking with my ssh.. what's the issue?
[09:27] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: is there some super need for openssh?
[09:27] <BHSPitMonkey> mustaukko, how often will that run
[09:27] <mneptok> mustaukko: ntpd automation usually happens it ntpd.conf and not via cron, if you care. :)
[09:27] <BHSPitMonkey> mneptok, but it doesn't.
[09:27] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: once a hour. every 0th minute
[09:27] <BHSPitMonkey> That's why we have to resort to cronjobs.
[09:27] <BHSPitMonkey> Cool.
[09:28] <mneptok> BHSPitMonkey: hmmm ... working here on Dapper servers.
[09:28] <BHSPitMonkey> I'd file a bug, but I can't be staying up any later.
[09:28] <mustaukko> mneptok: like I care.. :D result is all that matters to me. But yeah, maybe I should take a look at that angle.
[09:28] <BHSPitMonkey> mneptok, it's never worked for me.
[09:28] <BHSPitMonkey> from the Time and Date settings, anyway.
[09:29] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: are you still there?
[09:29] <mneptok> BHSPitMonkey: edit ntpd.conf by hand. GUI tools are always utreliable. ;)
[09:29] <BHSPitMonkey> mneptok, read above... It works when I click "Synchronize now" in the settings applet, but the checkbox for "keep me syncronized" is ineffective.
[09:29] <mneptok> *unreliable
[09:29] <BHSPitMonkey> mneptok, yeah, it does a lot of good for me to edit ntpd.conf.
[09:29] <BHSPitMonkey> I didn't see an entry in it for IS_WORKING = 1;
[09:29] <BHSPitMonkey> s/;//
[09:29] <BHSPitMonkey> night, all
[09:29] <shifty> can mplayer open wmv ?
[09:29] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: night.
[09:30] <BHSPitMonkey> thanks, mustaukko .
[09:30] <mustaukko> shifty: yeah, there are wmv9 codecs that work.
[09:30] <mustaukko> BHSPitMonkey: np
[09:30] <n2diy> BHSPitMonkey: pastebin it.
[09:30] <shifty> i install w32
[09:30] <shifty> can't work
[09:30] <BHSPitMonkey> n2diy, it's an Edgy out-of-the-box ntpd.conf. I don't need to pastebin it. Plus, I'm gone now.
[09:31] <n2diy> BHSPitMonkey: ok, 73
[09:31] <sparr> does ubuntu use the same installer as kubuntu?
[09:31] <mustaukko> shifty: what's w32?
[09:31] <mustaukko> shifty: Windows32? What are you trying to do?
[09:32] <someothernick> w32codecs
[09:32] <shifty> w32codecs
[09:32] <Zamber> sparr yep, I think so
[09:32] <mustaukko> someothernick: shifty: oh, ok.. *doh*
[09:32] <shifty> it is suppose to be the codec for wmv
[09:32] <WebDesigner> mustaukko: my openssl didnt working properly with php5-cli (stream_select), its related with 64bit issue. all machine 64 that installed with 32bit working,,, but not with 64bit kernels
[09:32] <shifty> duh it doesn't work
[09:32] <eoX> anyone installed w32 for 64bit?
[09:32] <sparr> on step 5 where you assign mount points to devices (ala fstab), it only shows my first 8 volumes.  is that a known bug?
[09:32] <_`XeOn_> !gdmsetup
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdmsetup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: I'm using a 64bit box.
[09:32] <Zamber> sparr check on the bugtrack
[09:33] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: And no problem. So is the problem with php binding?
[09:33] <_`XeOn_> what is the gdmsetup tool?
[09:33] <sparr> Zamber: launching konqueror from the livecd is an ordeal  :)
[09:33] <henrilindeblad> moi
[09:33] <henrilindeblad> mo
[09:33] <shifty> i will try to restart
[09:33] <mustaukko> shifty: so.. what are you tying to do? Are you browsing some website that has wmv videos integrated to it?
[09:33] <_`XeOn_> what is the gdmsetup tool?
[09:34] <henrilindeblad> mpi
[09:34] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: So you are tyring to get php ssh working on some 64-bit box?
[09:34] <henrilindeblad> heu
[09:34] <WebDesigner> mustako: http://pastebin.com/866984 <-- check this link.. i tried to debug the openssl + php5-cli under ubuntu64 bit (edgy/dapper) all crashed
[09:34] <Jowi> _`XeOn_, gdm is the login manager for gnome. gdmsetup is the tool to set the theme and options
[09:34] <mneptok> _`XeOn_: please don't repeat your question twice per minute :)
[09:34] <Zamber> sparr check your partitions in gparted
[09:35] <_`XeOn_> where i can find login themes for ubuntu?
[09:35] <Jowi> _`XeOn_, it is actally standalone and not dependent of gnome per se, but gdm = Gnome Display Manager
[09:35] <Jowi> !themes | _`XeOn_
[09:35] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:35] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: I'll check it right away, you check this one in the mean time http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html :)
[09:36] <mzuverink> On my laptop I have the screensaver off and power management set to never activate(sleep mode etc) in battery mode and ac mode, though every  I close the lid and leave the machine running when I open the lid it shows that the cpu is at 100 %.  is there a log or a command or something that i can access to tell me what is going on at those times?
[09:36] <sparr> Zamber: check them for what?  they are fine.  oddly, the partition tool in the installer only shows my last 3 (of 4) devices, then the mountpoint step shows the first 3 (of 4) devices and first 8 (of 10) volumes, ignoring my cdrom.
[09:37] <mneptok> mzuverink: dmesg and syslog
[09:37] <Zamber> dooes anyone know a yaquake-like terminal for gnome? but not tilda?
[09:37] <mneptok> mzuverink: i suspect you want to boot with the noacpi kernel parameter
[09:37] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: So this is really ust a part of the php that you are writing? No need for me to see the rest tho.
[09:37] <mzuverink> mneptok, ok thanks
[09:38] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: And you have fedora box, that you've compiled php with openssh support?
[09:38] <Zamber> sparr the cd-rom is not viewed there coz you can't install anything on it ;p
[09:39] <WebDesigner> mustako: my openssh is working well. its not bout the openssh.. openssl !!!
[09:39] <Zamber> !w32codecs
[09:39] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[09:39] <pc109> wenas
[09:41] <jackrazz> Does anyone know of a way to get a system-wide equalizer in ubuntu?
[09:41] <WebDesigner> huh? wenas is here?
[09:42] <edwin> hey
[09:42] <shifty> it is damn hard
[09:42] <shifty> :o
[09:42] <shifty> i am confused
[09:42] <shifty> now wmv videos play but no image
[09:42] <WebDesigner> edwin? wenas?
[09:42] <WebDesigner> edwin anak hC/
[09:43] <shifty> no image just sound
[09:43] <shifty> how do i remove program that say that one or more program is dependent ?
[09:44] <mustaukko> WebDesigner: yeah,. ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. port 443. right
[09:44] <mustaukko> shifty: videos are ruled by two codecs, one for sound and another for video. Those are completely separated.
[09:44] <WifiBrain> hi
[09:45] <shifty> i installed the uber w32 codec
[09:45] <shifty> gstreamer
[09:45] <shifty> mp3 codec
[09:45] <shifty> alll
[09:45] <shifty> but still nothing
[09:45] <shifty> !wmv
[09:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:45] <mustaukko> shifty: mplayer is the player that was able to play wmv videos on my box.
[09:45] <eternalswd> shifty, what codecs does mplayer list
[09:46] <xukun> can somebody advice me a good 10/100/1000 router for home use?
[09:46] <eternalswd> shifty, that are in the file even if it doesn't play
[09:46] <shifty> how am i suppose to check what codecs mplayers has
[09:47] <shifty> i recomplile the gstreamer thing already
[09:47] <shifty> mp3 playes
[09:47] <shifty> but nothing else
[09:47] <eternalswd> shifty, not what codecs mplayer has, what codecs it lists for the file in question when run from the command line ie what decoders does it try to open?
[09:47] <shifty> wmv still doesn't
[09:48] <shifty> can u tok like a bit noobish
[09:48] <shifty> like step by step
[09:48] <shifty> cos i am a complete idiot at this ?
[09:49] <eternalswd> shifty, when running mplayer from the terminal, there should be a bunch of output in that terminal, something like "Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family" should be in that output
[09:49] <mustaukko> shifty: Are you running 64 bit?
[09:49] <pc109> helloooooooooooo
[09:49] <mustaukko> shifty: I'll give you a webpage that explains all this.
[09:49] <shifty> no i am 32bit
[09:49] <pc109> who wants focking with me?
[09:49] <mustaukko> shifty: great, it simplifies thing a lot. :)
[09:50] <oxygen> hi
[09:50] <shifty> and oh how do i remove program on the add/remove when it keeps telling me another program is using it ?
[09:50] <oxygen> i cant write ntfs ... so how can i write it ?
[09:50] <oxygen> help pls ..
[09:50] <pc109> all of you are stupid people who only speaks about computers!!!!!!
[09:50] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g | oxygen
[09:50] <ubotu> oxygen: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:50] <tuxxee> pc109: and you are just a bot ...
[09:50] <eternalswd> shifty, does the file play at all?  ie is the video blocky?
[09:51] <shifty> i dun see video at all
[09:51] <mustaukko> shifty: Do you have another program that manages packages running ? like synaptic?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> pc109: This is a support channel.  For random chatter, join #ubuntu-offtopic.  For topics described in /msg ubotu o4o, join a different network.
[09:51] <shifty> it is just the visualisation
[09:51] <frogzoo> pc109: dude, this channel is for computer support - mind your manners before the ops catch you
[09:51] <shifty> ya i uses synaptic
[09:51] <mustaukko> shifty: and I'll ask this once more, are you trying to get webpages that play videos working or just videos?
[09:51] <pc109> your mother focker
[09:51] <shifty> just videos
[09:52] <mustaukko> shifty: then you need to stop the synaptic inorder to use the add-remove.
[09:52] <shifty> how do i stop it
[09:52] <mustaukko> shifty:  ok. I'll be back in a bit
[09:52] <mustaukko> shifty: just exit it.
[09:52] <shifty> -.-
[09:52] <DBO> thanks frogzoo for the heads up =)
[09:52] <shifty> dbo help me
[09:53] <Tomas_> Hello, is it possible to run an FTP server on Ubuntu desktop version 6.10?
[09:53] <DBO> shifty, whats wrong?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Tomas_: Absolutely.
[09:53] <shifty> can;t play wmv for nuts
[09:53] <Tomas_> fanks tony
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Tomas_: I recommend vsftpd personally
[09:53] <mustaukko> shifty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <Tomas_> tonyyarusso: will try that one
[09:53] <Hirvinen> Tomas_: Search the Ubuntu Wiki for detailed instructions.
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> (only b/c it's what I'm familiar with)
[09:53] <shifty> i installed
[09:53] <mustaukko> shifty: that's the howto for restricted videos.
[09:53] <shifty> i went there 999 times
[09:53] <DBO> shifty, try mplayer, it seems to have better luck with wmv
[09:53] <Tomas_> Hirvinen: will do thanks
[09:53] <shifty> installed everything they told me to
[09:53] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here know how to make scanners work?
[09:53] <shifty> mplayer= movie player?
[09:54] <mustaukko> shifty: ok. So what's missing?
[09:54] <DBO> no, mplayer = mplayer shifty
[09:54] <shifty> nothing is missing
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> shifty: gxine is also good with that.  (basically anything but totem)
[09:54] <Hirvinen> Tomas_: Not necessarily available for vsftpd, but for some ftpd there surely will be.
[09:54] <shifty> i can't remove all the default players for ubuntu
[09:54] <infidel> !wma
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:54] <mustaukko> shifty: have you tried automatix or easyubuntu?
[09:54] <shifty> it says something is using it
[09:54] <eoX> !chroot
[09:54] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:54] <shifty> i am going nuts
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | mustaukko
[09:54] <ubotu> mustaukko: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:55] <shifty> ok
[09:55] <shifty> i am gonna reboot
[09:55] <shifty> hopefully
[09:55] <shifty> it let's me uninstall that shitty players
[09:55] <Kristov> !worksforme
[09:55] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:55] <CorpseFeeder> i have scanner which is supported by xsane image scanner - the catch is I need to have ppscsi driver and epst module installed... I have no clue how to do this.. Who is able to help?
[09:56] <mustaukko> tonyyarusso: ubotu: ok, but then I'm no official supporter am i? :)
[09:56] <mustaukko> !automatix
[09:56] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:56] <Tomas_> hmm just another question out of the blue =) how would Ubunto work as the base for a firewall? tricky to mangage?
[09:56] <Tomas_> mangage = manage
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> mustaukko: We prefer it not be recommended here, since they come back needing us to fix it, if you know what I mean.
[09:57] <Kristov> if you know how to use netfilter and iptables it'll work fine
[09:57] <eoX> hi does anyone have mplayer and w32codecs working on their 64bit comp?
[09:57] <Tomas_> Kristov: Thanks, not my strong side though =)
[09:58] <Kristov> well, just learn iptables' syntax
[09:58] <Harry> i'd just like to say. i've been a MS windows slave for about 7 years. i tried linux before and hated it. but Ubuntu owns face. i'm never using windows again except for gaming and photoshop.
[09:58] <tuxxee> Tomas_: then try a distro like smoothwall
[09:58] <shifty> god
[09:58] <shifty> no it doens't work
[09:58] <Kristov> it's not very hard to use and to understand
[09:58] <Tomas_> Im running Ipcop at the moment easy to work with
[09:58] <mustaukko> tonyyarusso: yeah, I see. But there are only so many programs that try to automatise installation of such things. For many users that's really what they need. And besides.. those scripts do use aptget and packages to do their work. Is the problem not in apt-get then?
[09:59] <shifty> !uninstall
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <shifty> how do i uninstall stuff that keeps saying it has something using it
[09:59] <shifty>  ?
[09:59] <Kristov> or try shorewall with a gui such as webmin Tomas_
[09:59] <ajax4> !feisty
[09:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <mustaukko> shifty: what are you trying to do now? get rid of the players?
[09:59] <shifty> like u say
[09:59] <shifty> amarok
[09:59] <shifty> and movieplayer aint good
[09:59] <shifty> i am gonna save some space
[09:59] <Tomas_> Kristov: will look in to shorewall sounds interesting
[09:59] <shifty> cos i haven got lots of space to work wif
[09:59] <ajax4> !feisty
[09:59] <mustaukko> shifty: ok, and what's the problem that it's giving you?
[09:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <Kristov> :)
[10:00] <eternalswd> shifty, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:00] <shifty> 6.10
[10:00] <shifty> i want to uninstall stuff that keeps saying some other program nids it
[10:00] <shifty> how do i uninstall ?
[10:00] <mustaukko> shifty: you can remove programs from synaptic too.
[10:00] <mustaukko> shifty: just right click on them, and choose remove
[10:00] <xukun> Kristov, for long time I wanted to learn iptables but I always think its very hard to learn
[10:01] <shifty> it is complicated there
[10:01] <eoX> mustaukko do u have w32codec on 64bit machine?
[10:01] <mustaukko> shifty: yeah, but life is complicated. :)
[10:01] <mustaukko> eoX: Yeah, on my home comp.
[10:01] <tonyy_on_kde> mustaukko: no, the problem's in how the script runs.  We recommend simply following the wiki instructions (also simple) for now while better methods are being developed.
[10:01] <eoX> mustaukko did u do it with 32bit lib or chroot?
[10:01] <oxygen> how can i install all c library file for ubuntu ?
[10:01] <oxygen> i want to install all for c library file
[10:01] <Kristov> xukun I didn't find it that hard. I've been able to create a firewall that works fine in a very short time
[10:01] <shifty> i dun mind if
[10:02] <shifty> wma works
[10:02] <shifty> but i doesn't
[10:02] <xukun> Kristov, good for you
[10:02] <mustaukko> tonyy_on_kde: super. Sounds reasonable. Since those instructions have really helped me. Though it's much tougher on newcomers.
[10:02] <someothernick> shifty, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[10:02] <mustaukko> eoX: I compiled it.. wait up I'll look it up.
[10:03] <eoX> mustaukko thx a bunch
[10:03] <CorpseFeeder> squawk! squawk! how do I install ppscsi driver and epst module in order for my scanner to work?
[10:03] <WebDesigner> guys, how to upgrade php5.1.6 ubuntu standart apt-get into 5.2 ?
[10:03] <xukun> anyone running the new ubuntu version?
[10:03] <WebDesigner> seems the php5.1.6 quite buggy under ubuntu 64bit
[10:03] <mustaukko> eoX:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188974
[10:03] <tonyy_on_kde> mustaukko: agreed, it should be better.  But any wiki is xetter than the frustration of reinstalling a broken system.
[10:04] <Kristov> CorpseFeeder => ppscsi-source - drivers for SCSI emulating devices on parallel port
[10:04] <shifty> argh
[10:04] <shifty> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
[10:04] <shifty> it just wun remove
[10:04] <shifty> -.-
[10:04] <eternalswd> shifty, what are you trying to remove?
[10:04] <mustaukko> tonyy_on_kde: Yeah, by miles. And even the current is a lot better than gentoo (which on the other hand teaches users a lot about linux) :)
[10:04] <shifty> the MPLAYER
[10:04] <CheshireViking> before installing ubuntu, is there a safe way of backing up the mbr to floppy disk so that if something goes wrong, i can restore the original& still be able to run my windows installation?
[10:04] <shifty> MOVIE PLAYER
[10:04] <eoX> mustaukko:  thx a lot buddy oh last question is the quality ok cuz realplayer works on 64bit but soo choppy
[10:04] <tonyy_on_kde> xukun: you mean edgy or feisty?  Feisty in #ubuntu+1
[10:05] <mustaukko> shifty: take it easy and write the error message here.
[10:05] <shifty> the CD PLAYER
[10:05] <eoX> CheshireViking yeah u do it with dd
[10:05] <shifty> CANNOT REMOVE GNOME-MEDIA ONE OR NOT DADADADAD NEED GNOME-MEDIA
[10:05] <xukun> tonyy_on_kde,  I mean feisty
[10:05] <mustaukko> eoX: I had no issues. But I'm mostly viewing my videos from sites direct. Not that much of video editing or anything..
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> xukun: then the answer's yes - be happy to discuss in the other channel :)
[10:05] <shifty> it ask me u use the package manager which i have no idea what in the world is that becos there is so many packages inside
[10:05] <CheshireViking> eoX: thanks for that, i'm googling for the instructions
[10:05] <eoX> mustaukko ok ur a big help
[10:06] <mustaukko> shifty: I recommend that you try synaptic here. It's not that hard.
[10:06] <mustaukko> eoX:  np.
[10:06] <eoX> CheshireViking:  hold on i am trying to find a website for dat
[10:06] <xukun> tonyyarusso, ok
[10:06] <mustaukko> shifty: there it can tell you a lot more in the problem.
[10:06] <CheshireViking> eoX: i've found http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd#Backing_up_your_Master_Boot_Record_.28MBR.29.
[10:07] <eternalswd> shifty, In synaptic, you can click the search button and search for packages. ie in this case search for mplayer
[10:08] <eternalswd> shifty, In synaptic, then on the package listing you right click on the package and it gives you the option to "Mark for removal"
[10:08] <eoX> CheshireViking: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p13.htm#mbr_dd this one is really clear
[10:08] <vladuz976> what's a good video/movie editor ?
[10:09] <eternalswd> shifty, In synaptic, then click apply and it should remove it.  If it is a dependency of other installed packages it will warn you
[10:09] <eoX> CheshireViking:  also if u only have windows then u can restore mbr by booting windowxp recovery and fixmbr
[10:09] <eoX> that will restore it too
[10:09] <shifty> i can't find the package to "Movie Player
[10:09] <eternalswd> "Movie Player" that's in the gnome menu is called totem
[10:10] <someothernick> shifty, look for mplayer
[10:10] <eoX> CheshireViking:  for windows ways http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx?mfr=true
[10:10] <CheshireViking> eoX: Many thanks, its my works laptop so I need the XP installation working, but I mostly use ubuntu at home, so getting dual boot going will make going into work more interesting
[10:11] <eoX> CheshireViking: ur welcome also i use dual boot i found a shared fat32 partition to be useful maybe u want to look into dat too
[10:13] <Angelus> hi there, anyone know of a program that creates XML pages
[10:13] <Angelus> something that you can also preview?
[10:13] <CheshireViking> eoX: i've already got to that point, defragged hard drive, consolidated free space, shrunk original partition by 10Gb, created a new 2gb fat32 partition, now got 8gb for ubuntu - just need to make sure on the mbr first
[10:14] <CheshireViking> eoX: that bigpond webpage looks excellent, explains in a straight forward way
[10:16] <shifty> i want mplayer but i dun want movie player
[10:17] <shifty> and den
[10:17] <shifty> suddenly
[10:18] <shifty> out
[10:18] <shifty> of no where it worked
[10:18] <shifty> :o
[10:18] <mwe> !enter | shifty
[10:18] <ubotu> shifty: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:19] <shifty> :o
[10:19] <mustaukko> by the way, I've got a bunch of acc files (my cd-collection imported via itunes).. does ubuntu play them? I recon no..
[10:19] <mustaukko> Is there some simple batch program that can convert tem to ogg?
[10:19] <mwe> mustaukko: I think mplayer plays anything if you have the codecs
[10:20] <mneptok> mustaukko: aptitude show faac
[10:20] <mustaukko> mwe: so, it'd be playable with mplayer, but not by some ... rhythmbox or the like.
[10:21] <Angelus> is menu make a program for making GDM's???
[10:21] <mneptok> mustaukko: get the gstreamer AAC codec and any gstreamer app will be happy.
[10:21] <beat_> ciao!
[10:21] <mustaukko> mneptok: great! music to my ears, literally! :)
[10:22] <sobersabre> hi, I want to install ubuntu over a windows LDM managed partition.
[10:22] <sobersabre> Is this possible ?
[10:22] <sobersabre> (Dynamic Disk)
[10:22] <sobersabre> something like LVM
[10:22] <CorpseFeeder> i got distracted with visitors, but now I can return to my problem. OK, I got kernal-patch-ppscsi-2.6 and ppscsi-source installed... what do I do now?
[10:22] <shifty> i got 1.4 gigg hdd left
[10:22] <mwe> mustaukko: unfortunately there is no global codecs configuration but some programs share them. for example anything using gstreamer would share the AAC codec if you install gstreamer AAC codec
[10:23] <sobersabre> you can as well point me to the reference to the solution
[10:23] <mneptok> sobersabre: is this LDM thing controlled by hardware?
[10:23] <sobersabre> no
[10:23] <shifty> hahahaha
[10:23] <shifty> woot
[10:23] <shifty> thanks guys
[10:24] <shifty> for answer my noob ubuntu question
[10:24] <shifty> :o
[10:24] <mwe> shifty: don't hit enter all the time please
[10:24] <CorpseFeeder> how do I go about getting epst module?
[10:24] <mneptok> sobersabre: then i will give you 15 seconds to think through your question again ;)
[10:24] <mustaukko> mwe: Yeah, one of the things that still suck on nearly all the platforms.. No integration there. Mac has quicktime, windows mediaplayer... linux has gstreamer, which i think is the best approach of the bunch
[10:24] <sobersabre> mneptok, s you mean i have to reinstall the system ?!?!?
[10:26] <mneptok> sobersabre: your partitions are managed by software. Windows only software. how do you expect to boot Linux and have it address partitions that require Windows software to be even recognized?
[10:26] <CorpseFeeder> kristov: can you help me with getting epst module too? how do I get that? I got ppscsi-source.
[10:26] <sobersabre> mneptok ... how samba does access windows software ? the same way.
[10:26] <mneptok> sobersabre: no ....
[10:26] <rapid> !troll
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Kristov> CorpseFeeder dunno, it isn't in the official repos :/
[10:27] <CorpseFeeder> kristov: ok, thanks.
[10:27] <sobersabre> mneptok, i don't see too much diff: samba is a closed protocol reverse engineered by linux hackers community.
[10:27] <sobersabre> and the same could've been abpout LDM
[10:27] <mneptok> sobersabre: so go reverse engineer LDM
[10:27] <sobersabre> ok, thanks mneptok, I am off, thank you.
[10:29] <CorpseFeeder> is anyone _ever_ in #sane channel?
[10:30] <shifty> !wireless
[10:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:30] <CorpseFeeder> i suppose not, because then they would have to be in#sane lol
[10:30] <shifty> damn is wireless hard?
[10:31] <DarthLappy> shifty: Not really.
[10:31] <shifty> but i doesn't seems to detect my wireless card
[10:32] <mick666> excuse me
[10:33] <mick666> somebody could tell me
[10:33] <nothlit> !somebody
[10:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:34] <mick666> one AGP card
[10:34] <mick666> that is supported by kubuntu?
[10:34] <AmbientMstr> Should be
[10:34] <mick666> 'cause my ati radeon 9200 don't go
[10:34] <mick666> my motherboard is a Asus k8v-x
[10:34] <AmbientMstr> ATIs, I have heard, are not well supported for Ubuntu
[10:35] <mick666> could you suggest me one graphic card supported?
[10:35] <mick666> i don't know..one nvidia
[10:35] <mick666> (i don't need to play game with my pc)
[10:36] <mick666> do you know something?
[10:37] <jonah1980_2> hi guys started using the new networkmanager package for wireless but in order to tidy up a bit how do i get rid of the old network-admin that i used to use etc? or should i not?
[10:37] <AmbientMstr> Hmm
[10:37] <AmbientMstr> Do you HAVE an Nvidia card?
[10:37] <mick666> no but maybe
[10:38] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: why do you want to get rid of network-admin?
[10:38] <mick666> it could be supported
[10:38] <AmbientMstr> By an nvidia you're thinking?
[10:38] <AmbientMstr> Well
[10:38] <AmbientMstr> I don't know. I haven't tried it. I'd suggest you search the ubuntu wiki for supported ATI graphics cards as a starting point.
[10:38] <mick666> yes..'cause Ati AGP until now
[10:39] <mick666> oh ok
[10:39] <mick666> but saw it yet
[10:39] <mick666> which graphic card have you?
[10:40] <AmbientMstr> An nvidia 6600 256mb by PNY
[10:40] <AmbientMstr> Almost obsolete already
[10:41] <enix> i have a conky question but the people in #conky arnt responding...think anyone here can help
[10:41] <jonah1980_2> ciscosurfer, cos i'm using the new networkmanager now instead for a much easier setup - or do i keep both?
[10:41] <enix> i got a weather script off the net but conky doesnt seem to be loading it
[10:42] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: which package are you referring to?  can you send me link to a screenshot or the page from whence you grabbed it from
[10:42] <ciscosurfer> enix: have you tried searching on Ubuntuforums.org yet?
[10:43] <enix> yes i have
[10:43] <jonah1980_2> ciscosurfer, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[10:43] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: looking...
[10:43] <mick666> and among these 907 users...does someone know a cheap (80-90-100 ) nvida graphic card that certainly go with ubuntu?
[10:43] <enix> i made a .conky and put tweather.sh in there
[10:43] <enix> $hr
[10:43] <enix> ${color indian red}Weather${color}
[10:43] <enix>   Wichita   ${execi 1800 ~/.conky/tweather.sh USKS0620.html}
[10:43] <enix> ${hr 0.25}
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> mick666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:45] <mick666> yes
[10:45] <mick666> i saw it already
[10:45] <jimmy20014> I just installed dapper and when I do sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me a list of packages and this line 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded.
[10:45] <jimmy20014> Why doesn't Ubuntu upgrade the packages?
[10:46] <mick666> and my video card (radeon 9200) is pasted in the list
[10:46] <mick666> but don't go
[10:46] <mick666> =(
[10:47] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: sorry for the delay....i have it installed, and use it all the time...network-admin should stay put
[10:47] <mick666> maybe could be a combination of
[10:47] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: it's really just a panel applet for your convenience
[10:47] <mick666> motherboard - video card ?
[10:47] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: leave network admin alone
[10:48] <jonah1980_2> ciscosurfer, ok thanks for your help...
[10:48] <ciscosurfer> jonah1980_2: and, you can grab it from the repos
[10:48] <mick666> my motherboard is a asus k8v-x
[10:48] <jimmy20014> I just installed dapper and when I do sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me a list of packages and this line 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded. Why doesn't Ubuntu upgrade the packages?
[10:49] <Minnov> hello everyone, just got my ubuntu installation done, but I used my old .bashrc, whats the default one in ubuntu?
[10:49] <enix> no ideas?
[10:49] <Jowi> jimmy20014, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will probably give you that option
[10:50] <jimmy20014> Jowi: But isn't Dapper the lastest distro?
[10:51] <Jowi> jimmy20014, no. but that is not the point. you have two ways of upgrading.. 1. a normal package upgrade with apt-get upgrade and 2. upgrade the system critical files such as the kernel with dist-upgrade.
[10:51] <jimmy20014> Jowi: I did what you said but now it says 29 packages not upgraded
[10:51] <jimmy20014> Jowi: Ok
[10:52] <jimmy20014> Jowi: They are all python related packages
[10:53] <Jowi> jimmy20014, alot of applications depend on python.
[10:53] <riazi> any channel for mono ?
[10:54] <Jowi> jimmy20014, dapper is considered the most stable version. current version is edgy.
[10:55] <jimmy20014> Jowi: After years of using yum, apt seems very alien
[10:55] <Jowi> jimmy20014, if you want a better overview you can use "synaptic" package manager
[10:55] <Jowi> !apt-get | jimmy20014
[10:55] <ubotu> jimmy20014: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:55] <jimmy20014> Jowi: I wanted to stick to the command line but I guess I will give synaptic a try
[10:56] <jimmy20014> ubotu: Thanks
[10:56] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:56] <Jowi> jimmy20014, that link ubotu gave is quite good
[10:58] <mneptok> jimmy20014: i prefer aptitude to apt-get
[10:59] <mneptok> jimmy20014: it is probably more reminiscent of yum
[10:59] <jimmy20014> mneptok: I haven't given aptitude a shot yet
[11:00] <dinamizador> hola
[11:00] <dinamizador> toy probando el chat
[11:00] <dinamizador> hay alguien por ahi
[11:00] <mneptok> jimmy20014: if you can use yum but not aptitude ... uhhh ... you have bigger problems than package management ;)
[11:00] <mneptok> !es > dinamizador
[11:01] <dinamizador> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:01] <mneptok> !es | dinamizador
[11:01] <ubotu> dinamizador: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:01] <mneptok> (last warning)
[11:01] <dinamizador> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:02] <xukun>  /join #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <xukun>  /join #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <mneptok> xukun: get rid of the leading space
[11:06] <SurfnKid> !beryl
[11:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:06] <AmbientMstr> This is the end.....my only friend, the end.
[11:06] <AmbientMstr> I'll never look into your eyes...again
[11:06] <Jowi> only if you believe the Doors AmbientMstr
[11:07] <AmbientMstr> Nope.
[11:07] <AmbientMstr> That's the prediction about Vista's downfall
[11:07] <AmbientMstr> ;)
[11:07] <Jowi> :)
[11:07] <AmbientMstr> Unless MS gets their act together.
[11:07] <AmbientMstr> Oh well, after this patch finishes installin. I need to sleep. Got finals again tomorrow. Then I can spend time tinkering with my dual boot and fix my Ubuntu.
[11:08] <frogzoo> I notice vista doesn't seem to even have icons as previews of your docs on the desktop - wierd
[11:08] <AmbientMstr> Lol, I know.
[11:08] <frogzoo> like they can't even steal a good idea to save themselves
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Vista discussion can go to #ubuntu-offtopic (it's nice and quiet right now)
[11:08] <AmbientMstr> Oh they steal good ideas all the time
[11:08] <AmbientMstr> The problem is...they're not implemented well.
[11:08] <AmbientMstr> Alrighty
[11:09] <enix> i got a weather script off the net but conky doesnt seem to be loading it
[11:09] <SurfnKid> !ati
[11:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <enix> line pointing to script: {execi 1800 /home/evan/.conky/tweather.sh USKS0620.html}
[11:11] <infidel> is anyone able to play wma files?
[11:12] <selecta_g> hi, is anyone aware of an app that mimics XP's recently used programs list in KDE?
[11:13] <arke> Hi
[11:13] <gharz> guys, i've just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.29.2. surprisingly it doesn't detect my wiress card (intel 2100). any idea?
[11:13] <gnondpom> Salut all
[11:13] <gnondpom> Hello all
[11:13] <bna31> Hi there
[11:14] <arke> What is the preferred way to dual boot windos and linux these days - linux bootloader or windows bootloader? Also, what bootloader is the standard one (and/or the one used in Ubuntu)? I still remember using lilo :P
[11:14] <pogogod> hi guy i dont know if someone can help me... i am trying to add programs to unbuntu and everytime it gives me this message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  When i enter the code in the terminal it tells me i need superuser access. Can anyone help me please?
[11:14] <bna31> I installed xp, then ubuntu and grub is just working fine
[11:15] <Jowi> arke, grub or lilo both work fine. Windows bootloader I would not recommend
[11:15] <selecta_g> popogod: you probably need to prefix the command with "sudo" to get su access
[11:15] <arke> Jowi: thanks. So I guess that means install Windows first, then Ubuntu
[11:15] <arke> Jowi: what bootloader does Ubuntu ship with?
[11:15] <pogogod> selecta ill try it give me a sec
[11:16] <gnondpom> Pour tlcharger FightClub http://sunboard.free.fr/fightclub/
[11:16] <gnondpom> For Download  FightClub http://sunboard.free.fr/fightclub/
[11:16] <Jowi> arke, that is a good idea. Ubuntu ship with Grub by default.
[11:16] <arke> Great, thanks.
[11:17] <Jowi> arke, if windows accidentally destroy the bootloader here's a page for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:17] <arke> aah great, thanks!
[11:17] <pogogod> does any one know if we can go uner the irc undernet client with this thing?
[11:18] <selecta_g> popgod: did "sudo" work?
[11:19] <me-doh> hello :)
[11:19] <Jammu69> hey, can anyone help me install java to ubuntu? i am a total newbie so pls step by step help?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> !java | Jammu69
[11:20] <ubotu> Jammu69: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:20] <Jammu69> ok
[11:20] <me-doh> i'm trying to run windows under linux (hope that nobody will kill me here for this :) ), but i actually don't know where to start, what do i need, etc?
[11:20] <me-doh> any useful link for me? - thank you...
[11:20] <Jowi> me-doh, you need qemu or vmware
[11:20] <Jowi> !vmware
[11:20] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[11:20] <Jowi> !qemu
[11:21] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:22] <me-doh> sorry... donno rellay what happened
[11:22] <Jowi> me-doh, as I said - you need qemu or vmware
[11:22] <me-doh> ehm, someone told me that i need vmware or something else.. could you repeat that, please?
[11:23] <SzArAk> me-doh: you need vmware :)
[11:23] <noelferreira> hi poeple. i used to open links from anywhere in a new tab in firefox. now if i press a link for example here in this irc console it won't start nothing. any help? i'm using firefox 32 bits in edgy amd64
[11:24] <Tronyx> right click and choose open link in new tab?
[11:24] <Tronyx> or from IRC open link in browser perhaps
[11:25] <SzArAk> meff: vmware.com and try vmware server for instance. it's free.
[11:25] <infidel> is anyone capable of playing wma files?
[11:25] <balloman> i'm  new on xchat . i automatically join ubuntu server as soon as i  run the program . how can i change it , please ?
[11:26] <Tronyx> try going to the xchat tab and click where it says 'network list'
[11:26] <ciscosurfer> balloman: XChat > Network List
[11:27] <Jowi> balloman, Xchat -> serverlist -> "edit" theh Freenode selection. untick "autoconnect on startup"
[11:28] <ciscosurfer> !Restricted | infidel
[11:28] <ubotu> infidel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <JaXxon> Hi, can anyone point me to a tutorial on installing themes in compiz with edgy?
[11:28] <infidel> ciscosurfer: yeah i know but it's not working for me
[11:28] <balloman> ty all
[11:31] <balloman> another very naive question : is it possible to use MIRC with ubuntu ?
[11:31] <SentineLxx> balloman, yeah it is
[11:31] <Hellevator> balloman, i don't think so.  What's wrong with xchat?
[11:31] <Hellevator> oh nevermind then
[11:31] <noelferreira> hi poeple. i used to open links from anywhere in a new tab in firefox. now if i press a link for example here in this irc console it won't start nothing. any help? i'm using firefox 32 bits in edgy amd64
[11:31] <SentineLxx> through using WINE
[11:31] <Jowi> balloman, only with wine
[11:31] <SentineLxx> Xchat is what most people use though
[11:31] <balloman> nothing's wrong . i'm used to mirc is all .
[11:32] <balloman> ok sentinel , ty
[11:32] <ciscosurfer> balloman: you need to install Wine and then you can use mIRC that way (b/c it's a Windows program)
[11:32] <beat_> re
[11:32] <SentineLxx> Fair enough, but Xchat is much nicer :p
[11:32] <beat_> no,  vuota la certella ora
[11:32] <beat_> e anche usando nautilus
[11:32] <umut_ca> dear sir, i installed cgi.irc recently but i have a little problem with it. all the users of my website are using my server's ip, instead of their own. i was wondering if there was a way to fix that problem. sincerely Umut
[11:32] <infidel> ciscosurfer: all this time i've been banging my head and it is a corrupt wma file
[11:32] <umut_ca> ?
[11:32] <SentineLxx> I used 2 use MIRC, but then I was converted to Xchat, it's just a nicer, slicker interface :D
[11:32] <ciscosurfer> infidel: bummer!
[11:32] <Hellevator> i wish xchat was free for windows.  I never want to go back to mirc after xchat
[11:33] <balloman> well i will need some time to figure it out .
[11:33] <SentineLxx> balloman, yeah it takes a while, but trust me, it'll be worth it :)
[11:33] <mwe> is mirc free?
[11:33] <umut_ca> dear sir, i installed cgi.irc recently but i have a little problem with it. all the users of my website are using my server's ip, instead of their own. i was wondering if there was a way to fix that problem. sincerely Umut
[11:33] <umut_ca> ?
[11:33] <SentineLxx> Hellevator, try useing "GamersIRC" for Windows, it's quite similar to Xchat
[11:33] <balloman> mirc is a shareware
[11:33] <yunhual> hi, is there any tool like tcpshow of bsd for ubuntu ?
[11:33] <CheshireViking> balloman: stick with xchat & take the time to get used to it, i use it on ubuntu at home & i use the free version on windows, i did use xchat, but its nowhere near as good as xchat
[11:33] <mneptok> umut_ca: no
[11:34] <mneptok> Hellevator: jIRCii, dude ;)
[11:34] <ciscosurfer> umut_ca: if someone knows the answer, they will repsond.  please don't flood the channel over and over and over and over
[11:34] <SentineLxx> CheshireViking, You mean u used 2 use MIRC and now u use xchat? :p
[11:34] <CheshireViking> Hellevator: I use xchat on windows - there's a free version at http://www.silverex.org/download/
[11:34] <mwe> CheshireViking: xchat is not as good as xchat?
[11:35] <CheshireViking> yes you're right, xchat is a lot better than mirc - oops, my mistake
[11:35] <SentineLxx> :p
[11:35] <mwe> ;)
[11:35] <CheshireViking> all fingers and thumbs today
[11:35] <Bobbix> what is the homepage for wpa_supplicant ???
[11:35] <HymnToLife> [11:34]  <mwe> CheshireViking: xchat is not as good as xchat? <= wrong. xchat is much better than xchat :p
[11:35] <noelferreira> i will install a new fresh install of ubuntu. what distribuition shoul i try?
[11:35] <Bobbix> http://hostap.epitest.fi not work
[11:35] <CheshireViking> lol
[11:35] <yunhual> any body knows tcpshow utility ?
[11:35] <mwe> heh
[11:36] <SentineLxx> noelferreira, what version where you using before?
[11:36] <noelferreira> all of them but feisty SentineLxx
[11:36] <HymnToLife> noelferreira, if you want UBuntu, install Ubuntu I guess...
[11:36] <ciscosurfer> Bobbix: try this >> http://www.google.com/search?q=wpa_supplicant
[11:36] <SentineLxx> I've just upgraded to 6.10 (edgy) and it's a much better distro :)
[11:36] <SentineLxx> + it has FF2.0 :p
[11:37] <ciscosurfer> Bobbix: better yet, http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:kjo6bhbkXBkJ:hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/+wpa_supplicant
[11:37] <noelferreira> i 'm running both amd64 and 32 bits of edgy but i guess amd64 is more stable SentineLxx
[11:37] <HymnToLife> You can install it in Dapper fairly easily too
[11:37] <HymnToLife> noelferreira, the problem with amd64 is that lots of binary-only stuff is not available
[11:38] <SentineLxx> HymnToLife, Yeah you can, it took me ages 2 get it working last night though, although that was because I ran out of disk space :|
[11:38] <Bobbix> thanks cisco (i read)
[11:38] <noelferreira> i have no problem at all HymnToLife
[11:38] <noelferreira> just flash HymnToLife
[11:38] <monokrome> hey
[11:38] <HymnToLife> for some people, it's already a problem
[11:38] <HymnToLife> but if you're fine with it then go with amd64
[11:38] <noelferreira> but i have firexox 32 bits working fine so ... no problem at all
[11:39] <noelferreira> ya
[11:39] <monokrome> Anyone in here have problems with newer ATI cards and the live CD?
[11:39] <mwe> is the amd64 version supposed to work with EM64T processors?
[11:40] <mjr> mwe, yes
[11:40] <HymnToLife> yes
[11:40] <mwe> great.
[11:41] <mjr> (I have two servers running it on em64t, in fact)
[11:43] <noelferreira> wich program to should i use in ubuntu to watch analogic tv. i use vdr for dvb but i need to try now analogic.
[11:44] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: tvtime is good.
[11:44] <noelferreira> Tomcat_: easy to install? where can i find it?
[11:44] <PoGo{G}oD> i am trying to install 'alien' on my ubuntu but i dont know where can anyone help me please?
[11:45] <monokrome> Looks like the only workaround was to install fglrx :)
[11:45] <noelferreira> i was thinking in try mythtv now Tomcat_
[11:45] <shifty> !wireless
[11:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:45] <ciscosurfer> PoGo{G}oD: sudo aptitude install alien
[11:45] <Tomcat_> !help
[11:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:45] <noelferreira> i will try it now Tomcat_ thanks
[11:45] <Tomcat_> !dpkg tvtime
[11:46] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[11:46] <Tomcat_> !tvtime
[11:46] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[11:46] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: See that.
[11:46] <noelferreira> i have installed it qlready
[11:46] <noelferreira> i'll try it
[11:46] <Tomcat_> !alien > PoGo{G}oD
[11:46] <freaky_> ques, on gentoo every time cups was started it would search for printers, now with my ubuntu install it keeps listing printers from 3 networks ago :/ any ideas? browseprinters is on
[11:46] <ahoj> hi everyone
[11:46] <noelferreira> it uses mysql Tomcat_?
[11:47] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: mythtv is oversized & complicated...
[11:47] <ciscosurfer> ahoj: hello
[11:47] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: No, tvtime doesn't.
[11:47] <noelferreira> ok
[11:47] <ahoj> is there a way to only grep lines that *don't* include a certain string?
[11:47] <noelferreira> fine
[11:47] <frogzoo> ahoj: grep -v
[11:47] <shifty> atheros wireless inbuilt possible ?
[11:47] <ahoj> thanks
[11:47] <noelferreira> i love vdr for dvb Tomcat_ really good
[11:47] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: Well, you asked what to use. ;)
[11:48] <noelferreira> ya ok lol
[11:48] <noelferreira> just diferent things i guess Tomcat_
[11:48] <noelferreira> i'm just saying that i'm happy with vdr but i can't use it with analogic tv
[11:48] <noelferreira> that's it
[11:48] <Tomcat_> :)
[11:49] <ciscosurfer> welcome Finland and Germany
[11:49] <ciscosurfer> or is that Denmark
[11:49] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: I don't have a dvb card anyway :o
[11:50] <ciscosurfer> riazi: welcome!
[11:50] <ciscosurfer> riazi: must ... not ... sleep
[11:51] <ahoj> hm
[11:51] <ahoj> does grep work with regular expressions?
[11:52] <mwe> egrep or grep -e
[11:52] <ciscosurfer> ahoj: i believe you can use xargs too
[11:52] <ahoj> thank you
[11:52] <ahoj> maybe I should man grep
[11:52] <ciscosurfer> hahaha
[11:52] <riazi> ciscosurfer: you can hover a buddy in gaim and see their local time
[11:53] <ciscosurfer> riazi: yes, indeed
[11:53] <riazi> ciscosurfer: you knew?
[11:53] <ciscosurfer> riazi: i'm all knowing...
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> riazi: Forgot about that plugin
[11:53] <riazi> ciscosurfer: o ok fine
[11:53] <ciscosurfer> riazi: hahaha
[11:53] <riazi> ciscosurfer: tried out Gambas
[11:54] <riazi> ciscosurfer: VB under linux
[11:54] <ciscosurfer> riazi: pm me
[11:54] <riazi> ciscosurfer: so easy
[11:55] <cmh> hello i'm having a problem with beryl it was working until i started turning a lot of features on and now every time i run berly ubuntu freezes. What needs to be done to get rid of the berly settings(i can't even run berly-manager). I also tried a apt-get remove on berly, emerald..etc but when i install the settings are still there
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> riazi: what's the name again?
[11:55] <balloman> i'm very sorry but i havn't been able to  stop joining the unbutu server as i wished . could someone explain me -slowly- how to do it ? ( i'm a newbie and the program is in french here)
[11:55] <Jowi> cmh, rm -rf $HOME/.beryl
[11:55] <riazi> name?
[11:55] <riazi> of what
[11:55] <riazi> ?
[11:55] <cmh> thanks =)
[11:56] <Jowi> cmh, careful so you don't delete your entire home directory
[11:56] <balloman> i use xchat and ubuntu
[11:56] <cmh> thats exactly what i was looking for
[11:56] <cmh> i understand, thanks again
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> riazi: the gaim thing for local time
[11:58] <Jowi> balloman, click on XChat menu item. Click on "Server List..." click on "Freenode" click "edit"-button. untick "Autoconnect to this netwrok at startup"
[11:58] <riazi> tonyyarusso: cisco will explain
[11:59] <__gotcha> I have setup Sun JRE 5 from multiverse
[12:00] <__gotcha> I cannot find hoe to get it it work when typing java -version
[12:00] <__gotcha> I always get the default ubuntu java
[12:00] <__gotcha> I have edited /etc/jvm; it does not help.
[12:01] <__gotcha> any hint ?
[12:02] <Jowi> __gotcha, try "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[12:02] <riazi> tonyyarusso: got it ?
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> riazi: now I do
[12:03] <riazi> ok
[12:03] <ahoj> can I exclude multiple expressions from my grep? can I do something in the like of grep -v expression1, expression2 filename.txt , thus getting only lines that include neither of those two expressions?
[12:04] <__gotcha> Jowi: thanks, tried it, but did not help either
[12:06] <mwe> Can you somehow grep for several words that must all match other than grep A | grep B?
[12:07] <mwe> it tends to get really ugly really quick
[12:07] <mustaukko> hi, I'm having issues with sound. I believe it has not been playing anything since installation.
[12:07] <mustaukko> mustaukko@eufrat:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:07] <mustaukko>  0 [V8237          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[12:07] <mustaukko>                       VIA 8237 with ALC850 at 0xec00, irq 98
[12:07] <mustaukko>  1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[12:07] <mustaukko>                       MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 10
[12:07] <mwe> !paste | mustaukko
[12:07] <ubotu> mustaukko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <mustaukko> yet it finds the cards..
[12:07] <Jowi> __gotcha, how about using update-java-alternatives?
[12:08] <__gotcha> Jowi: Ill take a look
[12:08] <mustaukko> mwe: sorry. :)
[12:09] <Bobbix> somwere a guide to the wpa2 ??? i''ve edgy (wpa_supplicant 0.5.4) and zd1211b hardware
[12:09] <mustaukko> ok, as i was saying, it finds drivers for the internal sound thing. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2958/
[12:10] <mustaukko> But from sound management gui (from system->settings->sound) I get two different VIA sound systems. (+esd,alsa,oss)
[12:10] <mustaukko> do I need other systems than alsa?
[12:11] <bonnie-khi> Hi, I have a nokia 7610 mobile phone. When I plug the phone using the usb data cable into my pc which has ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed, Ubuntu is unable to recognize it.
[12:11] <pogogod> i am having a hard time to install java on ubuntu can anyone help me please?
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> !java | pogogod
[12:12] <ubotu> pogogod: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:12] <pogogod> !java
[12:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:12] <Bobbix> bye bye
[12:12] <bonnie-khi> Hi, I have a nokia 7610 mobile phone. When I plug the phone using the usb data cable into my pc which has ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed, Ubuntu is unable to recognize it. Please help
[12:12] <pogogod> !Multiverse repository
[12:13] <__gotcha> Jowi: that did it Thanks !!!!
[12:13] <Jowi> np __gotcha
[12:13] <shifty> hey
[12:14] <timpino> !mysql
[12:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:15] <timpino> I seem to have forgotten my password to my mysl dbase anyone know of a way to reset it or to find it?
[12:16] <sdac221x> Hi, I installed the ATI x1300 drivers on my laptop running xubuntu.  I still am unable to adjust screen brightness.  Any ideas ?
[12:16] <noelferreira> Tomcat_: tvtime looks ok the only problem is that i don't have sound
[12:16] <Terminus-> timpino: do it as root? sudo mysql mysql?
[12:16] <messju> hi, where do I configure that I want to use mplayer as default videoplayer and not totem (I'm using ubuntu on edgy)
[12:16] <timpino> Terminus sorry i'm on windows right now... :P
[12:16] <timpino> just thought that the mighty ubuntu communtiy might know
[12:16] <Terminus-> timpino: ssh to your mysql box. =P
[12:17] <timpino> rofl
[12:17] <timpino> running local
[12:17] <timpino> hey
[12:17] <timpino> i might have the server blcoked....
[12:17] <mneptok> uhh?
[12:17] <timpino> excellent spelling by my self if I might say so :)
[12:19] <shifty> harlo
[12:19] <OrT> lol
[12:19] <shifty> anyone using xchat ?
[12:19] <timpino> fook mi, didn't work
[12:19] <shifty> i have a problem wif xchat
[12:19] <shifty> it doesn't show the list of user
[12:19] <shifty> i looking for the userlist
[12:20] <daddy_cool> userlist is on the right - u might have to slide the bar across to the left to see it
[12:21] <shifty> hahaha got it
[12:21] <shifty> gonna drag -.-
[12:21] <shifty> :o
[12:21] <Jowi> anyone know how to make firefox use rox-filer instead of nautilus when opening the download folder?
[12:21] <shifty> thanks daddy_cool
[12:24] <timpino> bloody hell
[12:24] <shifty> games on linux :o
[12:24] <timpino> the problem was mySQL server wasn't running
[12:24] <timpino> problem solved :D
[12:24] <foutrelis> meow daddy_cool
[12:25] <shifty> vi sitta vetta
[12:25] <shifty> :o
[12:25] <shifty> spelar lite dota
[12:25] <shifty> :o
[12:25] <mneptok> shifty: stop
[12:26] <shifty> ok ok :]  sry man chill
[12:26] <mneptok> shifty: you have been warned enough.
[12:26] <mneptok> shifty: next time, it's a ban. clear?
[12:26] <effie_jayx> I havea question.. when we talk about memory use... UBUNTU is pretty good about memory use...
[12:27] <sashalap> hi, all
[12:27] <shifty> hi
[12:27] <foutrelis> effie_jayx: You understand that is not a question..
[12:27] <effie_jayx> however... I just aded an extra 512 mgs of ram.. and dapper keeps saying it's using 900 and something megs... :S
[12:27] <foutrelis> effie_jayx: 900 out of how much?
[12:27] <effie_jayx> one gig...
[12:27] <foutrelis> :S
[12:27] <mneptok> effie_jayx: that is 100% normal
[12:28] <Jowi> effie_jayx, it is good that the ram is in use.
[12:28] <foutrelis> Well unlike windows, linux uses as much ram as it can get, leaving the swap space alone :)
[12:29] <foutrelis> and as Jowi said, that is a good thing :)
[12:29] <foutrelis> mneptok: Don't talk about food! :(
[12:29] <noelferreira> Tomcat_: it automaticly save configurations? i'll reastart. i have problems with sounf
[12:29] <noelferreira> sound
[12:30] <effie_jayx> Jowi, is it? How so?
[12:31] <mneptok> effie_jayx: imagine you throw a party and make a big bowl of popcorn
[12:31] <shifty> !vn
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <shifty> !vnc
[12:31] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:31] <foutrelis> effie_jayx: Reading/Writing from/to RAM is faster than using space on the hard drive. :)
[12:31] <shifty> !freenx
[12:31] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:31] <sashalap> shifty :) , hi
[12:31] <shifty> hi sashalap  :)
[12:31] <foutrelis> effie_jayx: If needed and only then, will linux use the swap space
[12:32] <shifty> i did set any swap space
[12:32] <shifty> *din
[12:32] <effie_jayx> foutrelis, ok... I get that ...
[12:32] <effie_jayx> mneptok,  I follow...
[12:32] <shifty> damn
[12:32] <mneptok> effie_jayx: 3 people arrive. what makes sense? measuring little bits of popcorn nito bags and telling them they get no more, or giving them the whole bowl and saying "when other people arrive, share this?"
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | shifty
[12:32] <ubotu> shifty: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:32] <shifty> hey i am installing the madwifi on my computer
[12:32] <shifty> it will detect my wifi card right ?
[12:32] <effie_jayx> mneptok,  it is reasonable...
[12:33] <mneptok> effie_jayx: Windows takes the first approach. Linuk the second.
[12:33] <mneptok> *Linux
[12:33] <mjr> shifty, madwifi is included in ubuntu's linux-restricted-modules-[version]  packages
[12:33] <shifty> i am installing it, god, takes ages
[12:33] <shifty> my office has better worldwide connection
[12:33] <shifty> but now i am @ home
[12:34] <effie_jayx> mneptok,  thanks good analogy
[12:34] <shifty> where are u guys froom, up so early ?
[12:34] <mneptok> effie_jayx: Linux hands running apps as much memory as it can, and takes it back when something else needs it. *much* smarter. ;)
[12:35] <foutrelis> !feed | foutrelis
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <foutrelis> :|
[12:35] <mneptok> effie_jayx: it happens sometimes that you check memery usage, launch another app, and end up with *more* free memory than before. weird, but correct.
[12:36] <shifty> haha gaim works pretty sweet
[12:36] <mneptok> foutrelis: what are you looking for?
[12:36] <foutrelis> mneptok: food :(
[12:36] <sashalap> :) milk
[12:37] <mneptok> foutrelis: well, do so in meatspace. please don't play with the bots. they are here as a courtesy. :)
[12:37] <foutrelis> ok :'(
[12:37] <mneptok> thanks man
[12:37] <Azul> wut up
[12:38] <Azul> how many workspaces does everyone use?
[12:38] <shifty> windows vista and ubuntu pick one
[12:38] <shifty> :x
[12:39] <Azul> desktops i mean
[12:39] <foutrelis> shifty: Vista won't boot on my pc so Ubuntu I pick :P
[12:39] <OrT> 1
[12:39] <Azul> vista is windows, so i would choose ubuntu which is linux
[12:40] <shifty> how many years have u been using linux
[12:40] <shifty> i just started
[12:40] <shifty> :o
[12:40] <Azul> this is about 4th or 5th
[12:40] <richard> Hi, does anyone know how to easily extract rpm packages in ubuntu?
[12:40] <sashalap> :)
[12:40] <foutrelis> alien | richard
[12:40] <effie_jayx> shifty,  I think your questions will deliver few vista points considering this is a ubuntu channel
[12:40] <foutrelis> !alien | richard
[12:40] <ubotu> richard: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:40] <Azul> started with suse, mandrake, pclinuxos, slackware then ubuntu
[12:40] <mneptok> !offtopic
[12:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:41] <richard> I wouldnt really want to install an rpm, just extract its contents
[12:41] <effie_jayx> Azul, what made you go ubuntu... ?
[12:41] <mneptok> richard: what rpm?
[12:42] <Azul> effie_jayx: wealth of documentation.. but i'm starting to dislike it because of its package management
[12:42] <M_Fatih> i want to indent too many lines, indent and outdent. i want to select and do something to outdent or indent this lines, i'm using spaces for indenting.. how can i do that?
[12:42] <M_Fatih> in vim
[12:42] <M_Fatih> :)
[12:42] <Azul> slackware was the most stable OS i've ever used
[12:43] <effie_jayx> Azul,  ahhh... yes ubuntu is well documented... . about slack.. that's why I asked...
[12:43] <shifty> what is the most unstable ?
[12:43] <shifty> dood i gotta restart brb
[12:43] <foutrelis> richard: I hope this helps: http://www.debianadmin.com/extract-any-archive-in-linux-using-e-program.html
[12:43] <richard> mneptok, some kernel modules, acer_acpi to be exact
[12:44] <richard> I'm having troubles installing it (it compiles just fine but it tells me it cant find some hardware)
[12:44] <mneptok> richard: i believe that's built into linux-restricted-modules
[12:44] <richard> :o
[12:45] <Azul> i've of packages that require dependencies, not pieces of hardware
[12:46] <mneptok> richard: sec, i'm asking our kernel maintainers to be sure
[12:47] <mneptok> richard: got a URL to the source?
[12:48] <patbam> hi, i got a "failed to create filesystem" while trying to install ubuntu from the book dvd
[12:48] <patbam> it now seems to be hung at "installing system / detecting file systems"
[12:48] <mneptok> patbam: how are the drives connected to your machine?
[12:49] <mneptok> (hint: "SATA" is a ggod answer, but wildly insufficient to be helpful) ;)
[12:49] <patbam> mneptok: i'm installing from the dvd, from the install incon on the desktop. the drive is internal... is that what you mean?
[12:49] <patbam> just saw this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-235147.html
[12:50] <mneptok> patbam: SATA? PATA? onboard controller? bridge embedded? PCI card? RAID functions?
[12:50] <patbam> but i can ping it from this laptop
[12:50] <richard> mneptok, sure one sec
[12:51] <richard> http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html
[12:51] <patbam> mneptok: i really appreciate your help, but you're throwing a lot of terminology at me that i'm not familiar with
[12:51] <patbam> and i'm not sure how to answer.
[12:51] <xored> how do i export a secret pgp key ? i had enigmaleamil ( a profile ) running on my laptop, the email profile was stored localy. Now i want to use my email account, which is stored on my debian box ( nfs)..but hey tells me..that enigma-service is not avaible..any tips ?
[12:51] <patbam> can you give me a hint as to how to figure out the answer to this question?
[12:52] <patbam> someone here suggests running fdisk. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-235147.html
[12:52] <mneptok> patbam: before you ask why Linux is having problems seeing your drives you need to know something about how they are connected to the machine.
[12:55] <variant> well, I have just used vista ultimate on a vaio (not mine) and I really can't say I am impressed at all..
[12:55] <variant> ubuntu kicks it's ass
[12:55] <variant> I can't wait to see where ubuntu will be in 6 years when the next ms os comes out
[12:56] <mneptok> richard: ping
[12:57] <patbam> mneptok: ok. how can go about figuring that out
[12:58] <mneptok> patbam: read the owner's manual? research the motherboard or computer on the web?
[12:58] <shifty> hey guys how to install ar5212 wireless card on it
[12:58] <shifty> it is hard
[12:58] <patbam> mneptok: okay, i'll rtfm. thanks so much.
[12:59] <fatalerror> mneptok! :)
[12:59] <mneptok> eeek!
[12:59] <wolfgang_> hi, i cant print in a terminal: #lp < hi.txt
[12:59] <mneptok> heya fatalerror :)
[12:59] <mneptok> wolfgang_: >
[01:00] <wolfgang_> it works only if i do #lp -h hostname:port < hi.txt
[01:00] <shifty> how come i got 2 copy of ubuntu in the mbr?
[01:00] <mneptok> oh, "lp" is not part of the prompt. oops. :)
[01:00] <fatalerror> shifty: what do you mean?
[01:00] <shifty> i see like ubuntu twice on the boot selection screen
[01:00] <fatalerror> shifty: i.e. tell us the symptoms, not how you interprete them, otherwise it might not make perfect sense :)
[01:01] <mneptok> shifty: one is the standard boot, the other is recovery mode?
[01:01] <shifty> nope
[01:01] <shifty> 2 recovery
[01:01] <shifty> 2 standard
[01:01] <SentineLxx> shifty, You have probably just updated to a new version or something
[01:01] <mneptok> shifty: then you have 2 kernels installed
[01:01] <SentineLxx> they keep the old versions on there just incase
[01:01] <SentineLxx> you can unsinatall the old kernel by useing synaptic
[01:01] <OrT> !synaptic
[01:01] <shifty> how ?
[01:01] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:01] <SentineLxx> or just edit the menu.lst in boot/grub
[01:02] <fatalerror> SentineLxx: just in case and most likely because removing the running kernel has a great potential of being disastrous? :P
[01:02] <mneptok> SentineLxx: that is not recommended
[01:02] <SentineLxx> Fair enough :p
[01:02] <fatalerror> SentineLxx: it will get re-added anytime update-grub is re-run
[01:02] <wolfgang_> shifty, change the " howmany=2" to the kernels you want to see
[01:02] <SentineLxx> ahhh right
[01:02] <fatalerror> if you have it installed, no point in hiding it ;)
[01:03] <SentineLxx> hehe true, I do everything arse backwards lol
[01:03] <wolfgang_> shifty, and do "sudo update-grub"
[01:03] <d-s-d> how can i build additional locales?
[01:03] <SentineLxx> I was commenting the ones I didn't want to see out lol :|
[01:03] <SentineLxx> Then I realised I could uninstall them through synaptic, the ones I didnt use anymore and are about 4 kernels old :p
[01:04] <wolfgang_> how do i configure lp to a default host:port?
[01:04] <shifty> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386
[01:04] <shifty> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic
[01:04] <oxygen> gnome graphic setting
[01:04] <shifty> what's this
[01:04] <shifty> 386 and generic ?
[01:04] <oxygen> is there gnome graphic settings in ubuntu ?
[01:05] <wolfgang_> in system- prefernce -> screnn (or somehting )
[01:05] <HymnToLife> shifty, you should keep generic
[01:05] <HymnToLife> 386 is for veeeeery old machines
[01:05] <shifty> oooo
[01:05] <shifty> ok
[01:05] <wolfgang_> oxygen, in system- prefernce -> screen setting
[01:05] <klip> shifty, 386 is for 386-CPUs (optimized), generic is for all Kernels, but it is not optimized.
[01:05] <X|Rolando> linux-restricted-modules... :D
[01:05] <d-s-d> On my system a lot of en_*.UTF-8 locales are installed... can someone tell me how I can install additional locales?
[01:05] <HymnToLife> klip, yes, it is
[01:06] <klip> A 386 does not load _all_ modules.
[01:06] <HymnToLife> and anyway, 386 CPU's almost don't exist anymore
[01:06] <klip> Therefore, it is faster.
[01:06] <klip> True.
[01:06] <HymnToLife> klip, do you know what a module is ?
[01:06] <klip> kernelmodule
[01:06] <shifty> anyone has any idea how to install AR5212 wireless?
[01:06] <klip> I had a lot of fun with them while I tested Gentoo ;)
[01:06] <HymnToLife> shifty, the Wiki should know
[01:07] <HymnToLife> !wireless | shifty
[01:07] <ubotu> shifty: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
 oxygen, in system- prefernce -> screen setting
[01:07] <shifty> mine seems to be damn hard
[01:07] <oxygen> i cant find it
[01:07] <oxygen> whereis the system-prefernce
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | shifty (seriously, that's what, the fifth time?)
[01:07] <ubotu> shifty (seriously, that's what, the fifth time?): Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <shifty> hey how do i start network manager?
[01:08] <raylinu> Im having trouble with partition, and i cant install Linux, how can i make it?
[01:08] <wolfgang_> oxygen, i dont use the english on this desktop so look on top "Aplications Places System"
[01:08] <foutrelis> !mp3 | foutrelis
[01:08] <ubotu> foutrelis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <raylinu>  Im having trouble with partition, and i cant install Linux, how can i make it?
[01:09] <wolfgang_> oxygen, open a terminal and enter "gnome-display-properties"
[01:09] <foutrelis> raylinu: could you give us more info?
[01:09] <oxygen> wolfgang_, : i need color settings
[01:09] <oxygen> it resulation settings
[01:10] <noelferreira> Tomcat_: are you there?
[01:10] <richard> thanks to whoever suggested the restricted modules
[01:10] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: Yes?
[01:10] <richard> I dont think acer_acpi is included in it but my wlan seems to be working now
[01:10] <wolfgang_> oxygen, theme colors?
[01:10] <oxygen> wolfgang_,  no
[01:10] <noelferreira> Tomcat_: tvtime is working ok excep sound
[01:10] <oxygen> monitor color ..
[01:11] <wolfgang_> oxygen, or monitor setting?
[01:11] <wolfgang_> :)
[01:11] <oxygen> yes
[01:11] <oxygen> :)
[01:11] <SentineLxx> Anyone have any ideas on why when music is playing, no other system sounds work?
[01:11] <dromer> it worked before with my camera :(
[01:11] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: Yes, I read that, but I don't have a solution. Check if you have your TV card as input source and the volume to 100% in volume settings.
[01:12] <intelikey> what app to use to make flow charts and bar graphs ?
[01:12] <noelferreira> Tomcat_:yes i have image good but no sound
[01:12] <intelikey> and are there templates ?
[01:13] <intelikey> someone   sujestions ?
[01:13] <SentineLxx> Anyone have any ideas on why when music is playing, no other system sounds work?
[01:14] <intelikey> cause your music is not playing through esd ?
[01:14] <wolfgang_> oxygen, maybe xgamma
[01:14] <SentineLxx> intelikey, How would I go about configuring that?
[01:14] <intelikey> inside the app    choose the output device  ?
[01:15] <wolfgang_> oxygen, xgamma  in a terminal
[01:15] <intelikey> actually i use kde so i'm not the guy to ask.
[01:15] <raylinu>  When im installing Linux and try to create a root and swap partition, i receive the message that theres no root partition yet
[01:15] <wolfgang_> where are the printer gurus :-)
[01:15] <intelikey> !printer
[01:15] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:16] <kermit_ac> hi, I've got a strange problem with ubuntu 6.10. openoffice and firefox are launching veeery slow (>1min) and OO isn't responding. But other apps like evolution e.g. are launching fast
[01:16] <intelikey> so anyone know of an app to easily make pie charts and such that has templates ?
[01:16] <wolfgang_> ubotu, thx i know but i need lp and ther should work with cups
[01:16] <oxygen> -> Red  1.000, Green  1.000, Blue  1.000
[01:16] <D7k> !mp3
[01:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:16] <wolfgang_> ah a bot
[01:17] <wolfgang_> intelikey, thx i know but i need lp and ther should work with cups
[01:17] <wolfgang_> !lp
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <intelikey> lpr
[01:18] <wolfgang_> intelikey, does also not work
[01:18] <shifty> anyone using wireless?
[01:18] <intelikey> gtklp and  lpr - BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
[01:19] <intelikey> !wifi | shifty
[01:19] <ubotu> shifty: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:19] <WifiBrain> hey
[01:19] <shifty> i read thru but i device dun even show
[01:20] <shifty> wifi brain
[01:20] <shifty> what card are using ?
[01:20] <WifiBrain> ??
[01:20] <shifty> i can't sett mine up
[01:21] <shifty> AR5212
[01:21] <pbureau> Morning to all
[01:22] <pbureau> shifty - have you trying using ndiswrapper + windows drivers for it ?
[01:22] <shifty> i did try madwifi
[01:22] <oxygen> http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/45087_thumb.png
[01:22] <oxygen> i need this program
[01:22] <oxygen> help me pls
[01:22] <oxygen> how can i install iy
[01:22] <agliv5> Greetings :) I'm not really good with the terminal so how do I change the owner, user, and group of all the files in a dirrectory?
[01:23] <ar2k7> hi! can i remaster the 6.10 livecd using a guide for the 6.04?
[01:23] <oxygen> xgamma-gtk
[01:23] <oxygen> i needit
[01:23] <shifty> 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[01:23] <Cryoniq> Hi I have a security question. Can a rootkit like BluePill create a bubble and store itself in bios or similiar?
[01:23] <Jowi> !info xgamma
[01:23] <ubotu> xgamma: X client - xgamma. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 56 kB
[01:23] <pbureau> oxygen - breath in a moment and give the rest of us a moment to figure out the answer ok ?
[01:23] <ar2k7> ..are they essentially the same?
[01:23] <X|Rolando> shifty
[01:23] <shifty> ?
[01:23] <X|Rolando> shifty, try linux-restricted-modules
[01:23] <ithaxor> heeey is there any one how can help me with my crafic card?
[01:23] <wolfgang_> so the old bot idea is back :-)
[01:23] <Cryoniq> Or are rootkits depending on storing themselves on harddrives and media where they can be stored on?
[01:23] <shifty> i installed
[01:23] <shifty> but it doesn't show on the networking
[01:24] <X|Rolando> arrr
[01:24] <oxygen> what
[01:24] <oxygen> i, dont understand you
[01:24] <X|Rolando> I just did and it worked for me
[01:24] <X|Rolando> Though I might have done something else aswell...
[01:24] <ithaxor> i need help with my crafic card ples
[01:24] <ProN00b> oxygen, there is the xgamma package (install with apt-get install xgamma), however that is the console version of the program you are searching
[01:24] <Cryoniq> Reason I ask is that I am brainstorming about how to make a secure Linux distro Live CD for a bank services
[01:25] <Cryoniq> Where gnome or other handler is fired up and controlling which processes that are allowed to be started from a CD or bootable USB storage
[01:25] <shifty> linux wireless support kind of suck
[01:25] <ithaxor> some one here can help me with my craficcard driver
[01:25] <wfx> Securebuntu the super live cd :-)
[01:25] <Cryoniq> =)
[01:26] <pbureau> ithaxor - 1) its not craphic its Graphic 2) until you tell us a) problem b) graphic card model, you will not make much progress in solving your problem, so breath, take a moment and write a nice description of problem and details
[01:26] <shifty> rbbr rr
[01:26] <Cryoniq> Then someone spinned into this with rootkits and popped the question if a rootkit could somehow make intrusion and store itself in bios and affect such a solution
[01:26] <ar2k7> anyone here into customizing livecds?
[01:27] <wfx> nice the next live cd
[01:27] <ProN00b> Cryoniq, basically rootkits can store themselves wherever data can be stored, the real question that one should ask is "can it start up from there, how is it invoked ?"
[01:27] <ithaxor> oke 1 sorry for my engilsh 2) my grafic mode is radeon 9800 128 mb 3) i have trid the ati wiki and it don work..
[01:27] <Godsey> shifty: there is nothing wrong w/ linux wireless support
[01:27] <Godsey> don't buy broken hardware
[01:27] <Cryoniq> True, that is my view on it as well similiar
[01:27] <patbam> is there a default file system for ubuntu, i.e., ext2 or ext3?
[01:27] <Kunalagon> can somebody tell why icons doesn not appear in gnome tray ? When I try all to tray no icons appears in tray
[01:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Cryoniq, that's a very specialised question. Personally I don't know of an example, though I suppose in the broadest theoretical terms it's possible, i don't know if practically it's possible in any useful way.  You're probably better off asking a more specialised audience than us.
[01:28] <ady33> Hi could someone tell me how to add a news account to Kontact. I can see how to add a mail account but not anywhere to enter details for newsgropus??. tnx
[01:28] <pbureau> ithaxor -  thank you, I cannot help you, but be patient, and someone will e=answer you I am sure.. and only repeat your question once every 5 mins please. thansk you
[01:28] <pbureau> ithaxor - what language is your natural language ? we have ubuntu channel in many languages
[01:29] <ithaxor> swedish
[01:29] <Lunar_Lamp> ithaxor, you need to provide some kind of hint of the problem (e.g. error message)
[01:29] <pbureau> !se
[01:29] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:29] <nevon> i have a problem with my new harddrive, i used gparted to format the drive to ext3. In gparted it stod that it was a 398gb but when i formated it and used nautilus it says 278 it is actually a 320gb but some loss is counted for, but the thing thats annoying is the loss when in gparted it says 298.... anyone know what the problem might be
[01:29] <Keneo> omg, I just did sudo chmod 777 /*/*, while I wanted to do sudo chmod */*
[01:29] <nevon> ohh sry the 298 it shuold be
[01:30] <pbureau> Keneo -  opps
[01:30] <Keneo> am I f*ck?
[01:30] <Keneo> f*cked?
[01:30] <pbureau> Keneo - unknown, where you in / or /home ?
[01:31] <Keneo> /var/www/xxx
[01:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Keneo, there is no "undo". However, you can just change the permissions of files you're changed back to what they were previously.  I just hope you weren't in "/"
[01:31] <ithaxor> Lunar_Lamp : I wan to install beryl but as you know i most install the grafic drive first
[01:31] <Keneo> I did /*/*, so I chmoded root
[01:31] <Jowi> Keneo, yes. that is bad
[01:31] <Cryoniq> The idea is that a bank send their customers a customized livecd with ultra minimum services and IP restricted only to their bank, secure transger etc. Or offer them to download an image that they can burn or make the USB storage with. Then simply reboot or fire up their computer and boot into that and directly into secure browser. Instead that users, like today, install and run things from their awfully secured windows OS which th
[01:31] <Keneo> guess this is the time where I'm going to try to put back a backup :p
[01:32] <pbureau> Keneo - looks like it
[01:32] <Cryoniq> Thats the basic simple master plan anyway :)
[01:32] <Imsdle> arrrgggg....
[01:32] <Imsdle> im getting a fatal IO error 104
[01:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Cryoniq, your previous line stopped midway I think: "...ecured windows OS which t"
[01:33] <Imsdle> can't startx
[01:33] <Imsdle> just did a dist-upgrade
[01:33] <pbureau> Cryoniq - actually windows workstations in bank contain no data they run a remote application app that actually runs applications on craig servers. ultra encrypted, ultra protected...
[01:33] <Cryoniq> ...which they also use for everything else. And of course live cd autodetects needed hardware etc. Like Live for ubuntu.. tested it on many computers and noone failed even once (GJ guys :P )
[01:33] <Imsdle> all i have is terminal screen.. no internet access
[01:33] <Imsdle> how do i start the network service?
[01:33] <Imsdle> so i can do a apt-get update
[01:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Imsdle, /etc/init.d/network start
[01:34] <Lunar_Lamp> Imsdle, you may need to be root.
[01:34] <Lunar_Lamp> Imsdle, sorry, I meant use sudo.
[01:34] <Cryoniq> Imsdle you have configured the TCP/IP settings for the card also?
[01:34] <wolfgang_> hi, i cant print wiht firefox so i test printing in a terminal  with #lp < hi.txt (no printing)  and #lp -h hostname:port < hi.txt (works)
[01:35] <Cryoniq> like used DHCP or static IP etc :)
[01:35] <agliv5> How do I excute terminal commands as a diffrent user?
[01:35] <Keneo> ok, this is the situation, I have a tar file, whick contains the latest backup (used tar -cvpzf /mnt/disktwo/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /) Now, how do I put that back the best way? ;)
[01:35] <Imsdle> command not found
[01:35] <Imsdle> im in root
[01:35] <Jowi> agliv5, su
[01:35] <Lunar_Lamp> agliv5, you can "su THEIRUSERNAME" or you have to use "setuid".
[01:35] <Lunar_Lamp> !setuid
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <Imsdle> it was all setup... card was setup and all.. did a dist-upgrade and it all turned to custard
[01:36] <agliv5> Jowi:  I'll try su to see if it works...
[01:36] <pbureau> Imsdle - what version where you running ? 6.10>
[01:36] <Jowi> agliv5, example "su username program"
[01:37] <Imsdle> well in the terminal it says only 4.1
[01:37] <Imsdle> i just upgraded (well i thought i did to 6.1)
[01:37] <pbureau> Imsdle - uname -r ?
[01:37] <TMH_> Hi. I've just installed ubuntu, and out of nowhere, applications are taking about a minute or two to actually start
[01:38] <agliv5> Jowi: su chown userx filey didn't do anything...
[01:38] <wolfgang_> Cryoniq, and how do you connect to the ISP?
[01:38] <Imsdle> 2.6.8.1-3.386
[01:38] <TMH_> there is no extra cpu usage, and this happens both while opening applications from gnome or through a terminal
[01:38] <Jowi> agliv5, if you use chown you need to make sure to chowm the full path to the file
[01:39] <tim167> how do I set my keyboard layout ?
[01:39] <Jowi> agliv5, "su theuser chown otheruser /home/theuser/thisfile"
[01:40] <pbureau> tim167 - using gnome ? or TTY ?
[01:40] <Imsdle> ?
[01:40] <Jowi> agliv5, same goes for all su commands. specify the full path. "su theuser ls /home/theuser"
[01:40] <Jowi> agliv5, alternative you can execute chown as root "sudo chown file"
[01:40] <pbureau> Imsdle - I really dont have an answer man.
[01:40] <dromer> can someone please help me fix automounting usb-drives?
[01:40] <tim167> pbureau Fluxbox, i had correct keymap in gnome, now it changed
[01:41] <pbureau> fluxbox ? you got me there.. dunno
[01:41] <pbureau> dromer - whats is the problem with you usb drive ?
[01:41] <tim167> pbureau you mean /dev/tty ?
[01:41] <dromer> pbureau: some time ago I could plugin my camera, and it would automatically mount, now nothing auto-mounts
[01:42] <SurfnKid> !ndiswrapper
[01:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:42] <Cryoniq> Wolfgang I am doing fine. Just wondered if someone else configured his network interface settings regarding TCP/IP :)
[01:42] <agliv5> Jowi: I think I've got the hang of it...
[01:42] <Cryoniq> Wolfgang: (and forgot to add his nickname before the message =/ )
[01:43] <Jowi> tim167, if it will never change, set it up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. in section "InputDevice" for the keyboard add a line that say - Option "XkbLayout" "se" (example for swedish)
[01:43] <pbureau> dromer - you plugin it in DIRECTLY to the computer or using a external usb port expansion thingie ?
[01:43] <dromer> pbureau: directly
[01:43] <pbureau> dromer - you using gnome ?
[01:43] <dromer> pbureau: sorry, kde
[01:44] <pbureau> dromer -  kde/gnome same thing (grin) - check in the administration (under gnome there is a util to set this)
[01:44] <Imsdle> i ahve just down a dist-upgrade and now i have a fatal IO error 104 and nothing but a terminal
[01:44] <tim167> Jowi. cool I ll try, i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tho, and it didnt change, now trying your method...
[01:44] <ithaxor> guys what is the link for a swedish irc
[01:44] <pbureau> dromer also plug in your camera and do a ' lsusb ' to see what it reconizes
[01:45] <Jowi> tim167, think that should have given you the option as well. strange that it didnt
[01:45] <zoli2k> How can I start ssh server on Ubuntu livecd?
[01:45] <Jowi> ithaxor, /join #ubuntu-se
[01:45] <pbureau> !se |ithaxor
[01:45] <ubotu> ithaxor: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:45] <tim167> Jowi it did give me the option and I entered the iso3361 (or something) country code for my kbd, but still wrong...
[01:46] <Jowi> tim167, which language?
[01:46] <dromer> pbureau: what should I see on lsusb?
[01:46] <pibarnas> is there a way to fix that annoying bug on edgy console? It doesn't runs correctly pt-br keyboad...
[01:46] <tim167> NL qwerty
[01:46] <pbureau> dromer -  this should show any usb device connected to usb port
[01:46] <Jowi> tim167, NL = dutch or something else? :)
[01:47] <tim167> Jowi Dutch yes
[01:47] <dromer> pbureau: I see 6 Bus' and all empty ID's (0000:0000)
[01:47] <pbureau> dromer -  humm then its not seeing ANY usb devices. and it should... try unpluging and replugging and test lsusb
[01:47] <dromer> pbureau: also with my 1gb usb-stick
[01:48] <Imsdle> i have done a /etc/init.d/networking start.. but I still can't get network access to this machine.... I just spent f@#$ing 2 days setting up this box and using my download quota to @#$#@ upgrade it to the last and now I cant even get a GUI to work... it just comes up with fatal IO error 104. cant start x
[01:48] <Imsdle> can anyone help?
[01:49] <aalhamad> hi all i have a printer which is hp laserjet 1500 and the driver (foo2oak) is no a available any alternative driver available?
[01:49] <tim167> Jowi, but Im not from holland tho :-P ...I remember when installing ubuntu there was some helper app that let me type some keys to identify the keybd, cant I just run that app ?
[01:49] <shifty> ok guys my wireless is up
[01:49] <shifty> how to i delete the 386 kernel and update grub ?
[01:50] <shifty> anyone ?
[01:50] <shifty> how to i delete the 386 kernel and update grub ?
[01:50] <dromer> pbureau: same
[01:50] <agliv5> Can anyone help me change the permissions of network files created by other users?
[01:51] <xopher> shifty, just install a new one, then boot it, you can remove the old one with eg. synaptic
[01:51] <pbureau> dromer - humm odd seems the usb services would be down... tried a reboot of box ?
[01:51] <shifty> i already got a generic one install
[01:51] <shifty> ed
[01:51] <pbureau> dromer - hey you on a laptop perhaps ?
[01:51] <shifty> how do i update grub using the command ?
[01:51] <agliv5> I want to change network permissions so that all users have full access to all files...
[01:51] <Kkeksas> anyone can help when i try to connect show TIME OUT can help?
[01:51] <xopher> shifty, grub is updated automatically when a new kernel is installed/removed
[01:51] <Kkeksas> modem dsl-200
[01:51] <oxygen> is not there gtk gamma for ubuntu ?
[01:51] <xopher> by dpkg/apt
[01:51] <dromer> pbureau: I have had this for a long time now (weeks since I noticed) and I have a desktop pc
[01:52] <oxygen> gamma controller
[01:52] <shifty> ooo i want to unistall the 386 any idea how to ? which package?
[01:52] <xopher> oxygen, check out xgamma
[01:52] <Jowi> tim167, set Option "XkbLayout" "nl" in xorg.conf and restart X
[01:52] <oxygen> xopher, : it is not gtk just terminal
[01:52] <oxygen> i need gtk ..
[01:52] <tim167> how do I figure out my XkbVariant, XkbModel, XkbLayout, ?
[01:52] <pbureau> dromer - the only thing I can think of is check .. lspci do you have usb ports showing ?
[01:52] <tim167> Jowi, its already NL
[01:52] <shifty> ooo i want to unistall the 386 any idea how to ? which package? <-- ?
[01:52] <xopher> oxygen, why? .. well depending on what 3dcard you have, the proprietary drivers include a color management tool too
[01:52] <dromer> pbureau: yes, multiple USB controllers
[01:53] <xopher> shifty, search for linux-image in synaptic
[01:53] <Kkeksas> anyone can help when i try to connect show TIME OUT can help? modem dsl-200
[01:53] <tim167> ...and XkbOptions ?
[01:54] <SurfnKid> !ati
[01:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <shifty> already i will catchu on the other side xopher
[01:54] <Jowi> tim167, I don't have that in mine
[01:54] <shifty> =)
[01:54] <agliv5> Do you have to stop Samba to change network file preferences?
[01:54] <pbureau> dromer -  so in lsusb you see something like ' Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 ' but nothing beyond that >
[01:54] <tim167> does Fluxbox even read the keyboard settings from xorg.conf anyways ?
[01:54] <Jowi> tim167, if you "setxkbmap nl" in a terminal does that work?
[01:54] <tim167> Jowi, let me see...
[01:54] <dromer> pbureau: exactly
[01:55] <tim167> Jowi YES!
[01:56] <Jowi> tim167, ok, so check that your xorg.conf is correct. try "nl" in lowecase instead of "NL"
[01:56] <pbureau> dromer - well that explains the why your not getting a usb automount of your camera (grin) cause it aint reconizing any usb devices connected to a usb port... how to fix that...(man its too early to think (655am here) and not enough coffee)
[01:56] <tim167> Jowi oh dear, I had UPPER case ofcourse
[01:56] <Jowi> tim167, I hope that was the reason it failed :)
[01:57] <pbureau> dromer - hang in there ...searching the web for possible solution, I am not sure. (and you have rebooted your machine right ?)
[01:57] <Jedrick> i need help. how come my vlc doesn't have audio?
[01:58] <Jowi> tim167, worked?
[01:58] <tim167> Jowi, strange, I restarted X and now keys are wrong again,
[01:58] <noelferreira> Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1). i have no sound with tvtime. any help?
[01:59] <shifty> thanks guys for all ur help today my ubuntu is runnign!
[01:59] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. seems like Utorrent now works with Cedega/Wine :P
[01:59] <Jowi> tim167, can you please post your xorg.conf in the pastebin please?
[01:59] <Cryoniq> Wish there was a Linux port of Utorrent...
[01:59] <tim167> Jowi, but the setxkbmap nl works
[01:59] <tim167> Jowi just a moment
[02:00] <Cryoniq> The RSS funktion in it is really nice. Sure.. Azureues got support for that also, but not as clean, and the client via java take a lot of resources..
[02:00] <tulga> hi all. I have 3 SCSI HDD. then I want mount / to 1st SCSI. /home to second and third SCSI together. is it possible?
[02:01] <Cryoniq> tulga should be :)
[02:01] <tim167> Jowi http://www.pastebin.ca/329117
[02:01] <tulga> Cryoniq: I tried google, but not found. where is nice howto?
[02:02] <Jowi> tim167, maybe the XkbVariant is messing it up. comment that line out
[02:02] <Cryoniq> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=6353&p=2
[02:02] <tim167> Jowi ok
[02:03] <Cryoniq> tulga: Mounting / to the first SCSI and its partition should be easy..
[02:03] <Cryoniq> tulga: then you want to mount /home over the remaining 2 SCSI drives together?
[02:03] <tulga> yes
[02:03] <frogzoo> tulga: LVM or raid
[02:03] <tulga> mount / to 1st SCSI is ok
[02:03] <Cryoniq> tulga: then I think you need to raid those 2
[02:04] <tulga> ok
[02:04] <Cryoniq> tulga and then mount /home to that patition spanning over those 2 discs
[02:04] <tulga> ok
[02:04] <IdleOne> what is the command to reconfigure xorg?
[02:04] <IdleOne> !X
[02:04] <dromer> pbureau: es this is still after many boots
[02:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:04] <Jowi> IdleOne, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:04] <frogzoo> tulga: better option might be raid 5 across all 3 if they're all the same size
[02:04] <shifty> can i use this on ubuntu ? VNC Enterprise Edition Viewer for Linux (x86)
[02:05] <tim167> Jowi </-,.-<'+*/9@12  yes, seems to work ! thanks man
[02:05] <Cryoniq> Tulga so what you want to look for is how to raid those 2 SCSI disks and partion them and then how to change so that /home is mounted on that partition
[02:05] <tulga> yes. same size
[02:05] <Jowi> no probs tim167
[02:05] <IdleOne> ty Jowi
[02:05] <frogzoo> tulga: if you raid 5 them all together, you can lose a disk & keep your data
[02:05] <tulga> ok
[02:06] <shifty> VNC Enterprise Edition Viewer for Linux (x86) <--- possibe on ubuntu ?
[02:06] <Mba7eth> hi guys need help
[02:06] <tulga> thanks all
[02:06] <Mba7eth> ?
[02:06] <Cryoniq> tulga: aye Frogzoo is right. If you raid 5 those 2 disks together you mirror them between them. That means that you only will use half of them though so
[02:06] <Mba7eth> got a starnge problem
[02:06] <Cryoniq> tulga: those 2's diskspace will become disk1+disk2 / 2 of amount
[02:07] <Cryoniq> tulga but it is priceless if one of the harddrives break and have all data still there
[02:07] <frogzoo> Cryoniq: you do raid 5 across the 3 disks - so it's 30% disk space you lose
[02:07] <shifty> !realvnc
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Jowi> shifty, try !vnc
[02:07] <shifty> !vnc
[02:07] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:08] <shifty> jowi : my server is installed wif realvnc
[02:08] <Cryoniq> frogzoo: aye.. if the raid 5 all 3 yes :)
[02:08] <shifty> i nid to view
[02:08] <shifty> but i dun seems to be able to runt he linux version
[02:08] <Cryoniq> Frogzoo: but if he raid5 only the 2 and leave / for itself
[02:08] <Mba7eth> I have installed ubuntu on Dell inspiron 640m i downloaded the 915resolution. typed startx in the prompt ... i got what i want but when reconfigure the xserver i can't have 1440 X 900 resolution ...... can some one help ?????
[02:08] <b_52GM> any one know , affordable isp satellite provider ? that cover north africa / europe / middle east ?
[02:08] <Jowi> shifty, "vncviewer"
[02:08] <frogzoo> Cryoniq: sure
[02:08] <shifty> ?
[02:08] <shifty> !vncviewer
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <Jowi> !info vncviewer
[02:09] <ubotu> Package vncviewer does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <Cryoniq> Frogzoo: question is what might happen with performance of the OS disk if he also raid the first into raid 5
[02:09] <kenthomson> Is there any browser replacement for Firefox, it uses 100% of my CPU making the website/tabs/GNOME panels, the WHOLE freakin' computer unresponsive like HELL!, It's worse than windows xp now! :(, Do you think some extensions/plugins could be causing this or is this piece of crap so poorly coded? HELPPP
[02:09] <Jowi> !find vncviewer
[02:09] <ubotu> Found: xvncviewer, svncviewer, xtightvncviewer
[02:09] <agliv5> How do I stop samba to make changes to the conf file?
[02:09] <dv_> I have a weird problem with the wpa-supplicant. I use a pre-shared key, and everything works fine, however sometimes wpa-supplicant seems to "lose" the connection to the AP, and it searches for a signal again
[02:09] <Mba7eth> anyone!!! :( help :)
[02:09] <dv_> is this a known bug?
[02:09] <sp|urr> i plugged in a usb wireles dongle (D-Link DWL-G122) and i can see wlan0 and wmaster0 showing up. does this mean i no longer require to install any drivers???
[02:09] <frogzoo> Cryoniq: on a desktop, not a problem - for a server, well not ideal no, but still best soln
[02:10] <Jowi> shifty, either of those three packages that ubotu said will contain it
[02:10] <Cryoniq> Frogzoo: True :)
[02:10] <kenthomson> Anyone?
[02:10] <Cryoniq> Frogzoo unless he use torrent.. thats a lot of reads and writes all the time :)
[02:11] <ubuntu_> hali
[02:11] <IdleOne> Jowi: ty for the help need to write those commands down :)
[02:12] <mrpurple> hi all
[02:12] <Cryoniq> Reminds me that I really have to change these ATA discs and replace with SATAII disks and use the hardware raid on the motherboard instead for my storage ^^
[02:12] <sp|urr> kenthomson, yea i get that sluggishness firefox too sometimes. i am assuming the culprits are video plugins.
[02:12] <ubuntu_> i need some help. how can i install java to my computer?
[02:13] <seravitae> apt-get install java
[02:13] <ubuntu_> i try linux for first time
[02:13] <Cryoniq> btw.. talk about luxury with 3 SCSI discs on a desktop system.. :P
[02:13] <sp|urr> kenthomson, i havent been able to fix it yet either. but i want to give opera a try
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> !java | ubuntu_
[02:13] <ubotu> ubuntu_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:13] <sp|urr> i plugged in a usb wireles dongle (D-Link DWL-G122) and i can see wlan0 and wmaster0 showing up. does this mean i no longer require to install any drivers??
[02:13] <shifty> hey how do i enable timestamp on xhca
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse | ubotu
[02:13] <mrpurple> hi i like ubuntu_ first time since tonight
[02:13] <ubotu> ubotu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse | ubuntu_
[02:13] <ubotu> ubuntu_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:14] <ubuntu_> thank you
[02:14] <shifty> hey how do i enable timestamp on xhcat?
[02:14] <ubuntu_> ill try it
[02:14] <gebruiker> I'm trying to install edgy however my system doesn't boot. I have a intel machine with a via chipset
[02:14] <shifty> ok i got it
[02:14] <ubuntu_> thx for all
[02:14] <shifty> thanks guys for a good ubuntu day
[02:14] <ubuntu_> bye
[02:14] <zoli2k> gebruiker: and the details?
[02:15] <frogzoo> gebruiker: try adding 'acpi=off' to the boot options
[02:15] <gebruiker> frogzoo, i read something about it on the ubuntu page
[02:16] <zoli2k> SATA controller is not found by ubuntu livecd on VIA 8krai motherboard. Any ideas?
[02:17] <sunshine> Hi, I got a question, when I am root at my system and want to execute a command, a flasher, it tells me first,when I am not root, that I need root, than when I got root, it tells me command not found..any idea why?
[02:18] <jrib> sunshine: what command
[02:18] <sunshine> this one jrib:
[02:18] <sunshine> ./flasher -F SU-18_2006SE_2.2006.39-14_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> ack
[02:18] <Cryoniq> hmm.. ktorrent seems like a good torrent client. Sadly I use gnome....
[02:18] <jrib> sunshine: are you in the directory that contains "flasher" when you try to execute it as root?
[02:18] <cappiz> my password doesnt work with screensaver.... does anyone have a solution for it?
[02:18] <sunshine> Yes I am jrib
[02:18] <Cryoniq> But running a KDE app under gnome isnt a problem right?
[02:19] <dromer> anyone: my dapper install is really having trouble recognising (and subsequently automounting) usb-devices, lsusb gives no connections
[02:20] <jrib> sunshine: yeah, I don't see a reason for that not to work.  What's the exact error?
[02:21] <sunshine> root@ragtime:/home/ragtime/Desktop# sudo ./flasher -F SU-18_2006SE_2.2006.39-14_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
[02:21] <sunshine> sudo: ./flasher: command not found
[02:21] <vlt> Hello. Is ubuntu running on an AMD64X2?
[02:21] <IdleOne> vlt Im sure it does www.ubuntu.com
[02:21] <vlt> IdleOne: Thx
[02:21] <sunshine> this I get jrib
[02:21] <morpheus74> Does 6.06 come with a MD5sum checker?
[02:21] <jrib> sunshine: why are you using sudo as root?
[02:22] <vlt> morpheus74: md5sum
[02:22] <morpheus74> vlt: Yes
[02:22] <IdleOne> !md5 | morpheus74
[02:22] <ubotu> morpheus74: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:22] <jrib> sunshine: ls -l flasher   what does that say?
[02:22] <noelferreira_> i use tvtime with this card: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[02:22] <noelferreira_> . i don'r have sound. need help pelase
[02:22] <sunshine> because If I dont this comes:
[02:22] <sunshine> root@ragtime:/home/ragtime/Desktop# ./flasher -F SU-18_2006SE_2.2006.39-14_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
[02:22] <sunshine> bash: ./flasher: Permission denied
[02:22] <foxure> Hello. How do i reconfigure ubuntus xserver when i have a new monitor?
[02:23] <sunshine> jrib , it tells to flash some data on a device which I have , a Nokia 770
[02:23] <vlt> foxure: You can edit /etc/X.../xorg.conf or run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[02:23] <kenthomson> Can someone tell me what this process RUBY is, in my system monitor taking 84% CPU since 10 minutes?
[02:24] <Cryoniq> ooh.. ktorrent is really neat.. bye bye azureues :P
[02:24] <foxure> vlt: I have tested to run that. But its stops with an error. And i really dont know what to edit in that file
[02:24] <foxure> Both monitor have same resolution and are both 20"
[02:25] <IdleOne> foxure: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go with the defaults you should probably be fine
[02:25] <Math^> hello, I've got some strange problem, I cant login with the normal inlogscreen, but in the terminal with CAPS on when typing password I can login
[02:25] <frogzoo> kenthomson: are you running a web server?
[02:26] <jrib> Math^: did you try resetting your password?
[02:26] <Math^> jrib: yes I tried it
[02:26] <Math^> jrib: I even made it a password like 12345
[02:26] <foxure> IdleOne: I can't get that to work,, its stops with an error. It says that a tmp diretcory can't be deleted becuse its a file in there. And that the new file won't be made.
[02:26] <jrib> kenthomson: ruby is an interpreter for the ruby language so it's probably some program you have running written in ruby
[02:28] <kenthomson> frogzoo, NO
[02:28] <IdleOne> !paste | foxure put the error in the pastebin
[02:28] <ubotu> foxure put the error in the pastebin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <kenthomson> jrib, ok
[02:28] <Math^> jrib: I did sudo passwrd to change, I have to do passwrd, lets try again :)
[02:29] <kenthomson> frogzoo, jrib, Can you help me with gnome-art?
[02:29] <jrib> kenthomson: what is gnome-art?  what do you want to do with it?
[02:29] <foxure> ubotu: but i don't know howto to paste it:). I have  no xserver running now.
[02:29] <frogzoo> !themes | kenthomson
[02:29] <ubotu> kenthomson: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:30] <Math^> jrib: yes, i can login again :)
[02:30] <Math^> strange...
[02:30] <Math^> cu
[02:31] <vlt> When I run `apt-cache search linux-image` on my current Dapper 2.6.15-27-k7 system there's no kernel for AMD64(X2) shown. Will changing the CPU work or do I have to install a new kernel (or something worse I don't even wanna think of)?
[02:31] <frogzoo> vlt: apt-cache search a64
[02:32] <y3it221_klce> where should we place a shell script if we want to execute while booting.....???
[02:32] <frogzoo> y3it221_klce: /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local should do it - after the start...
[02:32] <dejx> si
[02:33] <incorrect> i wonder, do lmsensors work with dell power edge machines?
[02:33] <Yodude> hello can someone help me with my ubuntu installation?
[02:33] <frogzoo> incorrect: lmsensors doesn't work for lots of stuff
[02:33] <genii>  have several usb storage devices. I want to somehow assign each particular one with a static device designation. For instance the usb key will always be sda and the hard drive will always be sdb and the card reader will always be sdc no matter if I have any mix of them plugged in or not. Any way to accomplish this?
[02:34] <foxure> Is there a option to dkpg-reconfigure where i can choose place for the config file?
[02:34] <dv5237_> whats a good poker site for linux
[02:34] <frogzoo> Yodude: it's impossible to tell as we don't know what your problem is
[02:34] <Yodude> there's no problem
[02:34] <Yodude> i'm just new and need some answers
[02:34] <incorrect> frogzoo, i don't know, last time i used it it was in debian and horribly out of date
[02:34] <Yodude> i have windows installed
[02:34] <dv5237_> whats a good poker site for linux?
[02:34] <vlt> frogzoo: Mmh, the only match that makes sense (for me) would be "installation-guide-ia64 - Ubuntu installation guide". What do you mean?
[02:34] <frogzoo> incorrect: it's still pretty broke, - you might get lucky
[02:35] <Yodude> and i want to install ubuntu without ruining my windows installation
[02:35] <vlt> frogzoo: What is IA64? Intel?
[02:35] <see-g> genii: you can do that with UUIDs, at least that's what I've read. well, I haven't done this myself so I can only give you the advice to google for <your description>+UUID
[02:35] <IdleOne> whats up with these popups Im getting :/
[02:35] <frogzoo> Yodude: do you have a spare partition?
[02:35] <vlt> frogzoo: I'm gonna move to AMD64X2
[02:35] <zenobia> Does anyone know of a good desktop wiki?  Something like WikidPad.
[02:35] <genii> see-g so likely not with dapper then, just edgy?
[02:36] <Yodude> no i only have C where windows isa installed (NTFS) and D where i put files for backup when reformatting (FAT32)
[02:36] <frogzoo> vlt: apt-cache search image |grep 64
[02:36] <see-g> genii: I've read about that when I tried gentoo so it's quite possible that it's available in Dapper as well (I've finally quit gentoo 6 or 7 months ago)
[02:36] <Lynoure> zenobia: Desktop wiki? For multiple users anyway? (No point for wiki otherwise)
[02:37] <Yodude> so frogzoo?
[02:37] <see-g> ...I've sacrificed speed for stability...
[02:37] <genii> see-g Ok, thanks for the assistance
[02:37] <d34l3r> hi all... got some problem: does somebody know Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory?
[02:37] <zenobia> Lynoure : More like a texteditor with wiki-like principles. Pages linking to eachother and such. I'd just use it to scribble some ideas.
[02:37] <clojster> hi, murrine repository is not working or what?
[02:38] <Yodude> i want to preserve windows
[02:38] <clojster> is there any other place where can I download murrine package for ubuntu?
[02:38] <frogzoo> Yodude: gparted has a bug atm when resizing ntfs, which can clobber the whole partition - you could try your luck resizing C:, but you might be stuck having to reinstall windows/restore your data
[02:38] <Yodude> ok than i'll work with D
[02:38] <Yodude> C is 28G and D 28G also
[02:38] <d34l3r> well however... I wanna play Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory... during gameplay FPS go down to 27 every few seconds
[02:39] <edgy> Hi, I am facing a problem in burninig cd's and dvd's with k3b in edgy. The CD/DVD got corrupted. Any one knows any thing about this?
[02:39] <name> 27 is ok, nah?
[02:39] <d34l3r> I got xorg-driver-fglrx as Driver... (ATi Radeon 9600 XT / Ubuntu Edgy)
[02:39] <frogzoo> Yodude: yep, that's an option - maybe allocate 5gig / , 1gig swap & the rest for /home partn'd as fat32, so you can access from doze
[02:39] <Yodude> ummm
[02:40] <vlt> frogzoo: "bootcd-ia64 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on ia64"???
[02:40] <see-g> genii: I don't think what I did was assistance ;) anyways, I've gotta get my backpack packed the first time - I'll move to Ireland on Monday and packing a pack for one year isn't something I should start 3 hours before the flight goes ;)
[02:40] <Yodude> so 3 new partitions
[02:40] <Yodude> how much GBs?
[02:40] <frogzoo> vlt: nopers, funny dapper has a 64 bit image, or used to
[02:40] <see-g> have a nice day everybody, I'll be back later or tomorrow...
[02:40] <frogzoo> Yodude: learn to read ^^^
[02:41] <shifty> hi all =)
[02:41] <Yodude> oh oops
[02:41] <Yodude> i though you said 5GB for /
[02:41] <genii> see-g Have fun :)
[02:41] <frogzoo> Yodude: correct
[02:41] <oxygen> 
[02:42] <Yodude> so you propose a 1 GB swap partition
[02:42] <Yodude> and 4GB another partition for the system?
[02:42] <frogzoo> Yodude: 1gig for swap, and 22/home
[02:43] <Yodude> 22??
[02:43] <frogzoo> Yodude: sure, where all you gonna store your pr0n ?
[02:43] <theogen> #join #politics
[02:43] <Yodude> lol
[02:43] <theogen> oops
[02:44] <Yodude> no i don't have that much space
[02:44] <Yodude> i was thinking about resizing D to half
[02:44] <Yodude> i'm left with 14GB
[02:44] <Yodude> 1GB of those is swap and the rest ALL in one partition is for the filesystem
[02:45] <Yodude> do you think that's good?
[02:45] <frogzoo> Yodude: maybe 1gig swap, 5gig /, 10 gig /home - having /home & / on the same partition is really painful
[02:45] <Yodude> (btw i'm thinking swap 2Gb cause i'd like to use google earth)
[02:46] <Yodude> why is having / and /home on the same partition painful?
[02:46] <frogzoo> Yodude: when you come to upgrade & need to reformat, suddenly all your data is in the wrong place
[02:47] <wolfgang_> ok got now forefox print :)
[02:47] <Yodude> umm but my Pc is 5 years old so does it accept more than 4 partitions?
[02:47] <Yodude> i think i currently have 3 ( windows has a swap partition right?)
[02:47] <Cryoniq> ktorrent is really neat.. who needs utorrent :P
[02:48] <Cryoniq> Just had to say that out of joy :)
[02:48] <IdleOne> wolfgang_: >?
[02:48] <IdleOne> what do you need help with?
[02:48] <Yodude> btw important question: when i resize D is there any risk that i lose files on C?
[02:48] <wolfgang_> i was asking about printing wiht lp
[02:49] <IdleOne> Yodude: always make a backup before messing with the disks
[02:49] <frogzoo> Yodude: user error is teh only risk in that case
[02:49] <wolfgang_> firefox is set now to: lp ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME"} and it prints
[02:49] <d34l3r> IdleOne... may you help me with my graphical problem?
[02:49] <Yodude> umm lol that's why i'm here ( i tend to prepare a lot )
[02:49] <d34l3r> or anyone else
[02:49] <IdleOne> d34l3r: I could try whats the problem
[02:49] <d34l3r> I wanna play wolfenstein: enemy territory...
[02:50] <Yodude> like the ubuntu team says" 2 minutes of thinking can save you hours of work"
[02:50] <d34l3r> I have Ubuntu Edgy, ATi Radeon 9600 XT and xorg-driver-fglrx as driver
[02:50] <IdleOne> Yodude: :)
[02:50] <d34l3r> Frames per second go down to 27 for some seconds which means it lags
[02:50] <d34l3r> every 10 seconds for ~2-3 seconds
[02:50] <d34l3r> so I am not able to aim...
[02:50] <d34l3r> got some idea...?
[02:51] <b0o> quick question (with a possible obvious answer that I've overlooked) if anyone wants to shoot me an idea
[02:51] <IdleOne> d34l3r: I dont play games sorry I cant help with that
[02:51] <frogzoo> d34l3r: tried top to see what else is running?
[02:51] <IdleOne> b0o: was that the question
[02:51] <b0o> I left the house this morning after installing a basic system with sshd, now i'm in the box remotely
[02:51] <d34l3r> frogzoo, no didnt why?
[02:51] <d34l3r> should I ?
[02:51] <Yodude> btw i will need to use partman in the liveCd installer, i will probably have to choose manual editor, is it easy to partition with the installer?
[02:51] <b0o> I left the darn cdrom in the drive (bios is set to boot from cdrom first) and I want to reboot without going in to the insatll
[02:51] <sunshine> what can you do If you are root at your pc, but than comes some error like permission denied?
[02:51] <b0o> bah...intstaller
[02:51] <frogzoo> d34l3r: maybe some process is waking up every 10secs?
[02:52] <d34l3r> well couldnt be that
[02:52] <d34l3r> I played for one week without the problem now
[02:52] <b0o> so...any thoughts on tricking the machine not to boot in that order?
[02:52] <d34l3r> before the one week i had the problem
[02:52] <wolfgang_> by: if anyone got probs with firefox2 and printing then maybe this can help:
[02:52] <d34l3r> it appeared
[02:52] <mrpurple> i'm looking to install the second monitor here
[02:52] <d34l3r> disappeared
[02:52] <d34l3r> and now is appearing again
[02:52] <wolfgang_> open firefox enter the url: about:config
[02:52] <d34l3r> @ frogzoo
[02:52] <Yodude> ( btw i made a new year's reolution about installing linux)
[02:52] <b0o> the eventual goal behind the reboot is to get x11vnc installed and booted in to xubuntu
[02:52] <wolfgang_> filter for: print.printer_PostScript/default.print_command
[02:53] <b0o> so I can VNC from where i'm at
[02:53] <wolfgang_> and change the value to: lp ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME"}
[02:53] <wolfgang_> cu
[02:53] <IdleOne> b0o: only way would be to either get the cd out ( call someone and have them remove the cd and reboot the machine for you ) hmmm thats the only way because you cant ssh in to get to bios so ...
[02:53] <d34l3r> still there, frogzoo
[02:53] <d34l3r> ?
[02:53] <vlt> What's the command to show which files belong to a package?
[02:53] <Keneo> I kinda screw my system by chmoding 777 /*/* , now I want to put back a backup, but sudo isn't working (cause permissions in /etc/sudoers are wrong) and I cant become root: setgid: Operation not permitted
[02:53] <Keneo> what to do now?
[02:53] <frogzoo> d34l3r: yeah, google might turn up something
[02:54] <d34l3r> ^^
[02:54] <Jowi> vlt, dpkg -S filename
[02:54] <frogzoo> vlt: dpkg -L pkg
[02:54] <b0o> IdleOne: yeah, I know >:| I was trying to think of another way, but I'm coming up short
[02:54] <vlt> Keneo: Boot from CD
[02:54] <d34l3r> kk going to google a round @ frogzoo
[02:54] <IdleOne> b0o: i DONT THINK THERE IS ANY OTHER WAY
[02:54] <Jowi> vlt, ah, misread your question
[02:54] <vlt> Jowi, frogzoo: thx
[02:54] <IdleOne> sorry bout caps
[02:54] <Keneo> vlt, I guess I will have to do that, prob is it's a remote machine, no other way's?
[02:54] <Keneo> else I will get my ass up there
[02:54] <johnn> b0o maybe eject is enough.. depends if the drive closes while booting up ;)
[02:55] <b0o> IdleOne: you're probably right...I was just hoping it was early and I missed something obvious ;)
[02:55] <Yodude> idleone: i have two questions, the first is can the windows swap partition be used by linux? secondwill changing the D partition always erase all the files on that partition?
[02:55] <b0o> johnn: I thought about that, but that'll be a last resort, since if it doesn't work I'm stuck
[02:55] <b0o> too bad it's not a slot loading cdrom
[02:56] <vlt> Keneo: No idea.
[02:56] <Keneo> thx anyway
[02:56] <Keneo> I'l get up there
[02:56] <IdleOne> Yodude: I have no idea to either question
[02:57] <Keneo> I have an alt install cd from 6.10 here, will that get me into a root terminal?
[02:57] <Yodude> lol i'll ask frogzoo
[02:57] <Yodude> Frogzoo: i have two questions, the first is can the windows swap partition be used by linux? secondwill changing the D partition always erase all the files on that partition?
[02:57] <IdleOne> Keneo: you can use sudo
[02:57] <b0o> Well thanks anyway folks..I'm going to go scratch my head a bit more about this..
[02:58] <Keneo> IdleOne, I broke it with chmodding 777 /*/*
[02:58] <frogzoo> Yodude: winswap != linswap & you can resize D with gparted but if it's ntfs, you could trash the data
[02:58] <Yodude> it's FAT32
[02:59] <Yodude> i guess my D: data is safe then?
[02:59] <SentineLxx> Can anyone tell me how to uninstall the awful MESA drivers for ATI please?
[02:59] <Yodude> (i'll back up important stuff anyways)
[02:59] <moforila> I trying to install ubuntu on an old ibm machine, it gets to the loading essential drivers....ok then lags
[02:59] <IdleOne> Yodude: I cant say this enough BACKUP!!!!! always best :)
[02:59] <__james> what's the command in terminal to know the freespace disk?
[02:59] <Jowi> moforila, what are the specs and which cd are you using?
[02:59] <Yodude> yes i thought so too IdleOne
[02:59] <IdleOne> __james: free
[02:59] <moforila> and prints these errors after a few minutes buffer 1/0 error on device hdc
[03:00] <Yodude> another question:
[03:00] <Jowi> moforila, hdc is most likely your cd/dvdrom. verify that the cd got burned correctly.
[03:00] <__james> idaho45: i mean the drive space
[03:00] <moforila> I did a nero checkm seemed fine
[03:01] <Yodude> i live in Lebanon and technicians don't know how to work with linux here, i heard that GRUB will replace the windows bootloader when i install ubuntu
[03:01] <moforila> Jowi, any other ways to check ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> Yodude: it will
[03:01] <variant> Yodude: yup, but grub will allow you to boot windows
[03:01] <IdleOne> !dualboot > Yodude
[03:01] <Jowi> moforila, never used nero
[03:01] <Yodude> yes i know
[03:01] <IdleOne> Yodude: check msg from ubotu
[03:01] <Yodude> but will technicians be able to reformat?
[03:01] <__james> what's the command in terminal to know the free drive space of your hardisk
[03:02] <Yodude> i mean they prolly won't recognize "GRUB"
[03:02] <moforila> Jowi, any checlsums or somthing for the cd that i can do?
[03:02] <Yodude> and if they reformat that crappy windows block linux will i have to reinstall it everytime i format windows?
[03:02] <variant> Yodude: what do you mean?
[03:02] <moforila> thanks any way
[03:02] <moforila> im off to sleep
[03:02] <Desmaano> Hello people
[03:03] <IdleOne> Yodude: if you format the drive then it will wipe the entire drive and you will need to reinstall
[03:03] <variant> Yodude: if you format with windows it might format the linux parititon and will allmost certainly over write grub. you will be better to format the windows partiiton from ubuntu
[03:03] <Desmaano> I got a question but the answer isn't clear for me
[03:04] <variant> Desmaano: whats the question??
[03:04] <IdleOne> ask
[03:04] <kling0n> __james: 'df'
[03:04] <Desmaano> I would like to try Ubuntu without making a partition or so, so like from CD or from an simple installation
[03:04] <Yodude> but i don't know how to reinstall windows
[03:04] <IdleOne> Desmaano: download the LIve CD you can try ubuntu without installing it to your HD
[03:04] <jrib> Desmaano: use the "desktop cd".  It is also a "live cd" which means it will run straight from the cd without touching your hard drive
[03:05] <variant> Desmaano: the ubuntu install cd boots directly into a "live" environment, the same as if it was installed to disk. the live CD will NOT damage your windows installtion unless you choose to do that
[03:05] <Yodude> i guess i'll reinstall linux evrytime i reinstall indows
[03:05] <Yodude> windows*
[03:05] <Desmaano> ok 3 time thanks :)
[03:05] <IdleOne> yw
[03:05] <variant> Yodude: if it's xp you can choose which partiiton to install to, it wont toucht he linux partitions but will over write grub
[03:05] <xf> When setting up a firewall...I want to deny everything and only allow certain things.  Does my -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP have to come last?
[03:05] <Desmaano> so just mount or burn the cd and start it
[03:05] <xf> using iptables
[03:05] <variant> Yodude: install grub toa floppy or annother drive and that problem wont surface
[03:06] <IdleOne> Desmaano: burn the .iso put it in the pc and reboot
[03:06] <variant> xf: put the rule denying all first
[03:06] <IdleOne> Desmaano: then feel the Ubuntu love
[03:07] <xf> Thanks variant
[03:07] <Desmaano> okay :P
[03:07] <Yodude> isn't there a way to add ubuntu to the windows bootloader list without reinstalling ubuntu ( i mean after a fresh reformat of the C: partition)
[03:07] <xf> also...if I leave out the interface in an iptable rule, does it apply to all of the interfaces?
[03:07] <IdleOne> Yodude: windows bootloader doesnt like to handle anything but windows
[03:08] <Desmaano> by the way, not ubuntu specific question, is it 'handy' to use a linux file server in a windows (nt) environment?
[03:08] <Desmaano> and which Distro would be recommended for a Newbie on linux like me ?
[03:09] <IdleOne> Desmaano: Ubuntu!
[03:09] <marshcast> quick question (sorry - a bit pushed to search ) could somebody tell me the app to configure xorg/graphics for X?
[03:09] <Desmaano> cool :)
[03:09] <_rd_> Desmaano: well, it wont get worms,,,
[03:09] <IdleOne> if you have any issues with it then you come back here and ask for help
[03:09] <Lapfunc> hi.  i want users to be managed on a server, not my local machine.  i think it's called domain control on windows.  what is the name for this setup in linux?
[03:09] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. I was just thinking that it seems transfers are going a tad slow via network to internet and back and noticed that under netstat it says on one service that it is using UDP6.. is that meaning that I am using TCP/IP etc version 6 instead of 4?
[03:09] <IdleOne> marshcast: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:10] <Desmaano> damn, downloading LiveCd at 500 KB/sec, just takes so long
[03:10] <Cryoniq> I should get like at least 4 mbps on this 100 mbps full duplex connection but so far I only seen like.. 30kbps in download and 200 kbps upload...
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Desmaano
[03:10] <ubotu> Desmaano: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <Desmaano> okay sorry :S
[03:11] <variant> Cryoniq: you on a data center or what?
[03:11] <marshcast> Thanks IdleOne - you'z guys are so handy - it's rediculous!
[03:11] <marshcast> ;)
[03:11] <IdleOne> Desmaano: there are children as young as 10 yrs in this channel and adults who just dont like to see any cursing at all so we keep are typing clean to keep everybody happy :)
[03:11] <zoli2k> How can I replace the Gnome open file dialog to the KDE open file dialog in firefox?
[03:11] <Desmaano> ok i understand boss :P
[03:12] <Cryoniq> he he nope.. it is the ISP fiber network here in sweden :)
[03:12] <IdleOne> marshcast: np had to ask earlier for the same answer :)
[03:12] <marshcast> Hehehe....
[03:12] <mojo> hello
[03:13] <Desmaano> IdleOne: do i need additional tools to let Windows communicate with a Ubuntu File-server?
[03:13] <Lapfunc> if someone can tell me what the setup i need is called, i can google it
[03:13] <Lapfunc> but i'm a bit lost on google at the moment
[03:13] <mojo> anyone know what happened to the advanced options in the screen saver?  i have not used it since dapper and now it is missing features (i use edgy now)
[03:13] <IdleOne> !samba | Desmaano
[03:13] <ubotu> Desmaano: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:13] <_rd_> samba
[03:13] <Lapfunc> i want all user settings and files on a server machine
[03:13] <Lapfunc> all machines are ubuntu
[03:13] <variant> Cryoniq: nice, if your on the student network it is shared..
[03:13] <variant> Cryoniq: what city?
[03:14] <Desmaano> so what is Samba? an OS or an application?
[03:14] <johnn> is there a repository with latest mplayer deb's for edgy?
[03:14] <_nano_> Hi, is there a way to have only single instance of mplayer running? Opening a second file with mplayer loads another instance.
[03:14] <hydroxC> Desmaano, It's a protocol, like FTP is
[03:14] <Cryoniq> A city near Stockholm. No this is a common ISP service :)
[03:14] <variant> Cryoniq: breadbandsbolaget i presume
[03:14] <Desmaano> okay a file-sharing protocol if i get it right?
[03:14] <Cryoniq> Labs2 :)
[03:14] <IdleOne> Desmaano: yup
[03:14] <hydroxC> Desmaano, Yah, it does printer sharing, too
[03:14] <variant> Desmaano: like windows shares
[03:15] <variant> Cryoniq: which city? uppsala?
[03:15] <__james> i need help. how come my vlc doesn't have audio?
[03:15] <Cryoniq> But yeah.. they are pretty much the same :)
[03:15] <Cryoniq> Vasteras
[03:15] <Desmaano> Very good, thanks for all the answers :)
[03:15] <variant> Cryoniq: hah, I am flying into Vsters in a month..
[03:15] <Cryoniq> =P
[03:16] <variant> Cryoniq: anyway, is it a contended service?
[03:16] <shifty> hi all
[03:16] <mojo> samba implements the SMB (server message block) protocol that Windows uses for file sharing.  To share files, you run a background program (daemon) that makes the service available for other machines to attach to
[03:16] <Yodude> isn't there a way to add ubuntu to the windows bootloader list without reinstalling ubuntu ( i mean after a fresh reformat of the C: partition)
[03:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> guys i have ran autoinstaller for my sound drivers to get microphone support, but unfortunately it failed...
[03:16] <variant> Cryoniq: remember that the download and upload speed depends as much on your connection as it does the connection of the server your downloading/uploading to
[03:16] <Desmaano> mojo: talking about windows OS right with daemon?
[03:16] <zoli2k> Is there a lightweight X manager for ubunu with icons and ubuntu menu?
[03:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> it deleted me an old device for soundcard,how to revert it?
[03:17] <variant> Yodude: yes there is
[03:17] <variant> Yodude: ask in #windows
[03:17] <Yodude> k
[03:17] <zoli2k> !xmanager
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <Cryoniq> variant that is true.. but in this case it is a torrent with lots of seeders and leechers ;)
[03:17] <zoli2k> !enlightement
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enlightement - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <mojo> Desmaano: no, when you install samba on a linux system, so that you can share folders with windows users on your network as if you were a windows machine, you are installing a daemon on linux
[03:18] <zoli2k> !windowmanager
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <LjL> !msg the bot > zoli2k
[03:18] <_rd_> zoli2k: ice, enlightenment. fsce
[03:18] <Cryoniq> I never ever experienced speeds below 1 mbps before. Only since I installed ubuntu recently and in it. But.. I have to check my router and switch before stating that is the real problem
[03:18] <mojo> maybe i should butt out... it was a a-b conversation and ususally its better to c your way out... but i always try to answer questions when i come here to ask.
[03:19] <mojo> um, i mean i was the "c" party ;)
[03:19] <LjL> zoli2k, message the bot in private as i suggested please. you're muted for 2 minutes
[03:19] <Cryoniq> Variant however under Devices - Network tools > IP information for Eth0 it says Link under IP6 scope section hmm..
[03:20] <vlt> How to switch from -k7 to amd64 kernel? I can't find images in apt.
[03:21] <mojo> zoli2k: what about xfce?  there is the Xubuntu variant project.  It uses GTK libraries (like GNOME) but is much lighter weight
[03:21] <mrpurple> how can i use my second screen ? i have a nvidia 6600gt
[03:22] <xf> also...if I leave out the interface in an iptable rule, does it apply to all of the interfaces?
[03:22] <mojo> mrpurple: google "ubuntu nvidia dual head" ... other terms to try are xinerama
[03:22] <richard> Howdy folks
[03:23] <mypapitfx> howdy richard
[03:23] <_nano_> is there a way to make mplayer load only single instance?
[03:23] <richard> Small problem. Mounted media no longer shows up on the desktop for some reason..
[03:23] <Cadmi> hi
[03:23] <genii> I'm waiting for ubuntu port of xfce 4.4   there is an entirely new desktop management system and things like desktop links aren't such a pita anymore
[03:23] <mojo> mrpurple: xinerama is for a desktop that will span the two screens.  it is possible also to set them up as separate displays..  you can mouse between them but they are independt (can't move windows between).  or you can set up one display to "clone" the other
[03:23] <raar> hello, how can I convince rpm that I have sh on my system? ("rpm -i sqldeveloper-1.1.23.64-1.noarch.rpm" gives me: "error: Failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by sqldeveloper-1.1.23.64-1.noarch" :-(
[03:23] <richard> When I put in a cd, it mounts but no icon shows up on the desktop
[03:23] <richard> Same when I insert an SD card
[03:24] <mojo> !xinerama
[03:24] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:24] <stdin> raar: kubuntu uses deb, not rpm
[03:24] <genii> stdin Since it's a "noarch" rpm should be ok
[03:25] <raar> so every rpm package I get I have to port into a deb package?
[03:25] <goodgerster> good afternoon, life forms
[03:25] <beniamino> how do i make the default gnome-terminal font ('monospace') available to emacs?
[03:25] <r34l> hello
[03:25] <stdin> raar: just use alien
[03:25] <vlt> !alien
[03:25] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:26] <mooky> beniamino  I think ou need gnome-emacs
[03:26] <genii> Try to find the things you wish to install in deb format forst. only use foreign package systems if you can get that thing no other way
[03:26] <raar> ah okay, thanks guys :)
[03:26] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[03:26] <Rprp>   BBking ChanServ Duiv`weegghuus Eggdrop Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp
[03:26] <r_rehashed> good evening
[03:27] <goodgerster> Rprp: it's "can't sleep... clown will eat me"
[03:27] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[03:27] <mooky> goodgersterb whats the problem
[03:27] <Rprp> :p
[03:27] <goodgerster> mooky: I don't have one..
[03:27] <beniamino> mooky: hmm are you thinking of xemacs-gnome?#
[03:27] <mooky> goodgerster so why do you keep asking if anyone is being served
[03:27] <mooky> beniamino yes, probably
[03:27] <r_rehashed> are intel graphics drivers available from the official repositories, since they are Open Source?
[03:28] <goodgerster> mooky: that's my metaphor for asking whether anyone need help
[03:28] <mooky> r_rehashed intel graphics drivers are part of X
[03:28] <beniamino> mooky: it's emacs not xemacs that i want
[03:28] <mojo> msg ubotu !ubotu
[03:28] <mooky> goodgerster off the top of your head is the a dpkg option to configure a printer in cups
[03:28] <mooky> beniamino ahhh right, I didn't differentiate
[03:29] <Desmaano> one more question, can Ubuntu (with samba) make Network drives like you find in a Bussines-environment?
[03:29] <mooky> Desmaano  in a business environment ?
[03:29] <goodgerster> mooky: no, dpkg is concerned only with software installation and configuration, not with printing. GNOME's GUI for cups does printing
[03:29] <goodgerster> Desmaano: yes, it can
[03:29] <r34l> I would like to customize grub splashimage, I've edited menu.lst but I got an error about splashimage not found
[03:29] <pike_> de/quit
[03:29] <sholden> Hi, I'm about to install beryl and nvidia on ubuntu with a GeForce3 card.  I know that I wont be able to use pixel shaders with GeForce3, but I want to make sure that there is nothing special I have to do when installing the driver.  Should I just be able to use the automated script on the wiki?
[03:29] <pike_> hmm
[03:29] <r_rehashed> mooky: so my card - a 946GZ - has it's drivers already installed?
[03:29] <Desmaano> Like you find on work, allways caled like X: Y: Z: and so :)
[03:30] <goodgerster> sholden: auto scripts are not good. do it manually - and no, you're OK with the default driver unless your card is very ancient
[03:30] <mooky> goodgerster I should have said dpkg-reconfigure
[03:30] <goodgerster> mooky: as I said, dpkg is not concerned with printing
[03:30] <genii> Desmaano That part of things is normally done on the client side. On the server (samba) side they are all just network shares.
[03:30] <sholden> it's ancient as hell goodgerster.... geforce 3
[03:30] <mooky> goodgerster I thought id was concerned with "packages"
[03:30] <mooky> s/id/it
[03:30] <_nano_> is there a way to force vlc to always load a single instance?
[03:31] <r_rehashed> mooky: I want to install the drivers to be able to run beryl/compiz
[03:31] <r34l> sholden
[03:31] <goodgerster> dpkg-reconfigure will reinstall a set of default config files, or else ask you some questions about your nerwork
[03:31] <mooky> r_rehashed should bt part of X already
[03:31] <goodgerster> sholden: I will look on the list
[03:31] <r34l> I Installed too
[03:31] <Desmaano> ok genii, let me do some more research then, thanks for support guys :) One Ubuntu-er more on the world :)
[03:31] <mojo> question - how do i suppress the joined / left messages so i can follow the text here better
[03:31] <mooky> goodgerster not just network, I've used it to configure apps like X
[03:31] <jrib> mojo: what client?
[03:31] <mooky> hence why I was curious to a printer configurtion tool without a client
[03:31] <mojo> jrib: xchat
[03:31] <mooky> without a gui
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> mojo, it depends on what irc client you are using.
[03:31] <genii> Desmaano: A good place to start is with the "man smb.conf" document, very informative
[03:32] <mojo> Lunar_Lamp: xchat
[03:32] <lts> got problem with ati and ubuntu. how-to won't help too much. I got the newest drivers from ATI, the driver loads and works fine... but there is no acceleration.
[03:32] <Lunar_Lamp> mojo, right click on the channel name, and there is an option to untick "join part"
[03:32] <goodgerster> mooky: for the last time dpkg-reconfigure will not let you install a printer. use the damned GNOME GUI
[03:32] <lts> It works fine on slackware, fedora, and zenwalk
[03:32] <mooky> goodgerster I don't have a gui installed
[03:32] <goodgerster> sholden: the card is supported
[03:32] <Lunar_Lamp> (right click on channel name>#ubuntu>show join/part)
[03:32] <mooky> goodgerster no need for tha attitude also
[03:32] <goodgerster> mooky: then refer to CUPS config documentation
[03:32] <r34l> Sholden I added "UseinternalAGPGart" "no" in xorg conf, because I got some problems with the same card
[03:32] <mrpurple> tmojo : thanks ... i'm reading
[03:32] <mojo> Lunar_Lamp: THANKS!  Didn't think to click on the channel tab.  Been menusufing my brain out
[03:33] <r34l> And now It works
[03:33] <lts> the card is x200 with shared mem., the other is x200 with assigned memory
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | goodgerster
[03:33] <ubotu> goodgerster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <mooky> goodgerster thats exactly the plan, I was curious to if there was a tool within ubuntu such as dpkg-reconfigure
[03:33] <goodgerster> sholden: you will need to use an older version of the driver. nvidia-glx-1.0.8178-r3 is the one
[03:33] <Yodude> hey can i install GRUB from the ubuntu LiveCd without installing the whole linux?
[03:33] <goodgerster> mooky: no, you asked whether dpkg-reconfigure will do it. you need to edit a config file, I suspect. GIYF
[03:34] <Yodude> (in case i need to recover linux after a windows reinstallation)
[03:34] <mooky> Yodude yup, type gub at the root promtp and walk though it
[03:34] <genii> Yodude Yesy
[03:34] <goodgerster> Yodude: yes, google "ubuntu livecd reinstall grub"
[03:34] <xf> Here is my iptables script...http://www.nullsense.com/iptables.txt   ... Why can I not ssh to that box now? :)
[03:34] <mooky> goodgerster GIYF ?
[03:34] <pike_> !grub | Yodude
[03:34] <ubotu> Yodude: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <goodgerster> mooky: google is your friend
[03:34] <pike_> Yodude: pretty easy
[03:34] <r_rehashed> which is better, compiz or beryl?
[03:34] <goodgerster> r_rehashed: beryl
[03:34] <mooky> goodgerster ahhh, I've got no problem editing the files by hand, more a case of ubuntu has tools for most things, I wonder if there is one for this
[03:34] <mooky> r_rehashed personal preference
[03:34] <Yodude> thanks God linux is Free!
[03:34] <mojo> lts: my acceleration is gone too... but can't say if it was with the upgrade or when i reconfigured for dual-head (xinerama).  fussed with it for a while but gave up
[03:35] <goodgerster> mooky: yes, it's a GUI
[03:35] <mooky> goodgerster not on the server install
[03:35] <Yodude> windows is such a pain in the *** why can';t it jus tplay nice!
[03:35] <mooky> goodgerster I've seen the gui tool
[03:35] <lts> mojo, I don't use xinerama.
[03:35] <sholden> OK
[03:35] <goodgerster> mooky: by not using a GUI, you agree to configure things by yourself
[03:35] <mooky> goodgerster yes, exactly, I've got no problem with that, I was just curious to if there was a tool
[03:35] <mojo> lts: oh.  just blah blahing about my config... never figured out if that was a variable for me or not
[03:35] <r_rehashed> ok. which should be the 1st try? ;)
[03:36] <goodgerster> mooky: you can still install gnome, and there's webmin for configuring most server things from another server
[03:36] <mooky> r_rehashed beryl is ubuntu supported
[03:36] <r_rehashed> oh cool
[03:36] <vlt> Hello (again). How to switch from -k7 to amd64 kernel? I can't find images in apt.
[03:36] <sholden> ok thanks....
[03:36] <lts> mojo, is there any alternative debs for xorg. I'll try to compile my own
[03:36] <mooky> goodgerster no chance am I using webmin - more so not for a printer, I don't need tools like that. I'm fine with out X, more a case of not knowing if there was a tool
[03:36] <genii> Yodude http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html
[03:36] <lts> if there is non
[03:36] <pike_> vlt: complete reinstall
[03:36] <mooky> vlt are you running a 64bit OS ?
[03:36] <vlt> mooky: I'm on 2.6.15-27-k7 now.
[03:37] <mooky> vlt ok - so you need to do a complete re-install
[03:37] <goodgerster> vlt: there is no amd64 kernel in the x86 version of ubuntu. you're better off with the generic kernel if you're on an ia64 system
[03:37] <vlt> omfg
[03:37] <mooky> vlt watch the langauge
[03:37] <lts> vlt, k7 works with k8
[03:37] <mooky> I don't need to see that
[03:37] <r_rehashed> I installed ia-32libs today to try and install wine
[03:37] <mojo> lts: not sure
[03:37] <goodgerster> mooky: shut up about language
[03:37] <r_rehashed> everything seemed fine with the installation
[03:37] <mooky> goodgerster its the first time I've said it
[03:37] <mooky> and I no - I won't, I don't need to see it
[03:38] <goodgerster> mooky: don't look then
[03:38] <goodgerster> r_rehashed: what's the eventual trouble?
[03:38] <mojo> lts: i am now using the ones in the ubuntu repository.  tried the d/l from ati w/o luck so i went back, still no joy on 3d accell...
[03:38] <mooky> goodgerster how about respect the channels rules and don't use it
[03:38] <xf> Here is my iptables script...http://www.nullsense.com/iptables.txt   ... Why can I not ssh to that box now? :)
[03:38] <genii> vlt There is a way to change the default architecture that apt uses, but it's a pain to mess about that way. Better to just get an amd64 specific iso and install from that
[03:38] <r_rehashed> however, whenever I try to run a program, I am suddenly logged-off and the splash screen appears
[03:38] <bezibaerchen> anyone using network-manager for openvpn connections?
[03:39] <bauer77> oh lord someone is getting mad at an acronym?
[03:39] <r_rehashed> any clues as to what's wrong?
[03:39] <pike_> vlt: there are still issues running 64. no reason not to free up a partition and try it but id hold off on deleting the current install unless youre sure
[03:39] <mooky> bauer77 not really, I just know what it means and I don't need to see it
[03:39] <goodgerster> vlt: IMO you should stick with the x86 version in any case... essentially, the amd64 edition is "rather rubbish" to avoid being smashed over the head by a certain oversensitive person
[03:39] <Yodude> is the Super GRUB Disk the best solution?
[03:39] <vlt> genii: Can I put the system to (nearly) the same state it has now? Something like "apt-... --get-selections"?
[03:39] <mooky> goodgerster not oversensitive, you just made a fair comment
[03:39] <r_rehashed> I am using wine 0.9.29
[03:40] <mooky> r_rehashed you'd get better detailed support from the #wine channel
[03:40] <sunshine> hi do anyone if the command chmod+ax is here correct writted?
[03:40] <bauer77> no offense but I think that is kind of anal, I could see if he actually spelled it out
[03:40] <r_rehashed> oh ok
[03:40] <vlt> goodgerster:, pike_: -k7 will run on  AMD64 hardware?
[03:40] <r34l> How can I find where is located my grub (hd,partition), I've to configure grub splashimage (hd?, ?) Tnx
[03:40] <mooky> bauer77 every-one knows what its means, its just uncalled for
[03:40] <goodgerster> vlt: I use the generic one, but I see no reason why not
[03:40] <goodgerster> sunshine: you need a space between d and +
[03:41] <stdin> vlt: you mean "dpkg --get-selections" ?
[03:41] <LjL> mooky, bauer77, goodgerster, etc: please stop this discussion please, or bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:41] <mooky> goodgerster in later versions only "generic" is available as I recall
[03:41] <genii> vlt If you are using an x86 install then change the architecture and install an amd64 kernel the other apps will likely have some strange issues. Better to just save some headaches and install new from a cd
[03:41] <bauer77> Im done
[03:41] <mooky> I'm happy - I just don't need to see uncalled for lanague
[03:41] <mooky> language
[03:41] <LjL> mooky, that's agreed
[03:41] <pike_> vlt: you can run k7 kernel just like you can i386 umm.. it depends what you want from system.  some things are going to actually be a little more ineffecient under 64bit but on the whole the speed increase is real.
[03:41] <goodgerster> mooky: k7 is available throughout. you are correct in that "i386" has been replaced with "generic"
[03:42] <mooky> goodgerster really, I thought edgy and feisty had dropped it
[03:42] <Wyvern_> Quick question: How do I restart the smbd daemon in the "best" manner?
[03:42] <mooky> Wyvern_ use the init script
[03:42] <goodgerster> mooky: hmm, methinks otherwise but will check
[03:42] <Wyvern_> syntax?
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> mooky, goodgerster: I also think k7 was obsoleted - make sure
[03:42] <mooky> goodgerster not saying your wrong - just from memory I thought it was gone
[03:42] <mooky> tonyyarusso agreed
[03:42] <goodgerster> mooky: I've got a k7 kernel here
[03:43] <mooky> goodgerster which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[03:43] <jim88> Hi all ... I need a little help with a printing situation
[03:43] <stdin> Wyvern_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:43] <goodgerster> ah, but it says it was obsoleted. my mistake
[03:43] <Wyvern_> ah, thanks
[03:43] <mooky> goodgerster fine - just checking
[03:43] <genii_> I just ghosted
[03:43] <richard> When a program spawns a new window it always seems to load up behind the old window for some reason - This started to happen yesterday but I dont know why
[03:43] <xf> Could someone please take a look at my iptables? Here is my iptables script...http://www.nullsense.com/iptables.txt   ... Why can I not ssh to that box now? :)
[03:43] <vlt> goodgerster, mooky: It's an AMD64 X2. Will -k7-smp or -generic-smp support both cpu cores?
[03:43] <mooky> vlt yup on amd's
[03:43] <Jowi> richard, with which window manager?
[03:44] <stdin> vlt: the generic kernel is smp already
[03:44] <goodgerster> vlt: yes. but k7 is now obsoleted dependin upon your ubuntu version
[03:44] <goodgerster> hmm, can anyone help me with xchat scripting?
[03:44] <c3o> I need help with mysql, I can't get it to start..
[03:44] <genii> vlt Yes, the smp is default, if not needed it just unloads that part
[03:44] <jim88> Can anyone tell me how to setup a printer that is connected thru my router to a win98 machine ... I have tried several things but it doesn't seem to work ... I am trying to avoid a print server
[03:44] <Jowi> richard, I noticed that behaviour as well with Beryl. is that what you're using?
[03:44] <mooky> goodgerster a "little", if you want to chat in offtopic abou tit
[03:44] <richard> Jowi, yes :P
[03:45] <nikitis> I'm a newb at installing java via deb type installations.  Is there an updated walkthrough for the latest jre6?  the jre5 walkthrough is outdated and does not work any longer
[03:45] <c3o> It worked fine yesterday, but now it won't work at all :S
[03:45] <Jowi> richard, luckily for you, I found a solution not more than two minutes ago
[03:45] <goodgerster> jim88: afaik, linux doesn't support win9x's printing system. you'll likely need a print server, but don't quote me
[03:45] <richard> Jowi, is it the 3d plugin?
[03:45] <goodgerster> mooky: yes please..
[03:46] <mooky> goodgerster ok - see you in there
[03:46] <jim88> thanks goodgerster but please is there a workaround :)
[03:46] <Jowi> richard, go to the Beryl settings manager. in the "General Options" set "Level of Fucus stealing prevention" to "None"
[03:46] <richard> Ahhh...
[03:46] <richard> Jowi thanks for that :)
[03:46] <Jowi> np richard. it was driving me mad as well
[03:46] <xf> also, how can I enable logging with iptables?  I added kern.warning to my syslogd.conf, but wasn't sure what else to do?  I know i have to enable some module with iptables
[03:47] <genii> jim88 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-10.html
[03:47] <Yodude> hey can anyone answer this question: will changing the D partition always erase all the files on that partition?
[03:47] <Yodude> it's FAT32
[03:47] <goodgerster> Yodude: the D partition?!
[03:47] <stdin> Yodude: if you are just resizing it, then no
[03:47] <markus_> Hello. Here are the problem when i do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in ubuntu DD.. http://pastebin.com/867872
[03:48] <markus_> any one any idea?
[03:48] <HymnToLife> markus_, use sudo
[03:48] <markus_> HymnToLife, I use Sudp
[03:49] <shifty> alrite
[03:49] <shifty> nite guys
[03:50] <dreamer> hmm, what (simple) application can I use to mae use of the coax-input of my tv-card?
[03:50] <MuffY> !printer McMuffin
[03:50] <dreamer> I want to use it only for a vcr
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printer McMuffin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <MuffY> aww
[03:50] <r34l> omfg wtf, what a messy, dumb, useless channel
[03:50] <MuffY> anyone has a printer faq lying around?
[03:50] <mypapitfx> r3set: lol
[03:50] <stdin> !print
[03:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:50] <mooky> can we put a ban on r34l please
[03:50] <MuffY> r34l really?
[03:51] <MuffY> ty, stdin
[03:51] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[03:51] <DARKGuy> Mornin' ^^... hey, I got a question :P, is there a way I can create a file and use it as output for /dev/fd0 ?
[03:51] <MuffY> though i need to do something with my stdout
[03:51] <MuffY> ;p
[03:52] <c3o> Can anyone help me with mysql?? http://pastebin.com/867874
[03:52] <phanter> hello, my ubuntu server does currently not start up with network enabled. This means that I have to enable it by hand (ifup eth0). How can I make sure that it is done automaticly at boot time
[03:52] <genii> dreamer http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[03:53] <mojo> goodgerster: where can i find more info on the xscreensaver in edgy...  i seem to remember in dapper (or maybe breezy) it had more options, like advanced config for the 'savers.
[03:53] <dreamer> genii: I thought mythtv was a very big package?
[03:53] <MuffY> my printer isnt' listed =(
[03:53] <dreamer> genii: can't like, vlc perhaps access the tv-card?
[03:53] <genii> dreamer It is the best application for what you need to do
[03:53] <MuffY> i have a Lexmark Z31, and his has support for the Z32 and Z33 xD
[03:53] <phanter> mojo: that is taken out of the xscreenssaver package.
[03:53] <goodgerster> mojo: regrettably, the ubuntu developers decided that gnome's useless screensaver thingie was more user-friendly than the xscreensaver system
[03:53] <eXistenZ> Hello, what usenet news readers do you guys recommend?
[03:53] <goodgerster> you can still install xscreensaver
[03:53] <Vandalay> use "tvtime" or "xDtv"
[03:53] <_JP> hmm, where can i read about package updating policies?
[03:53] <goodgerster> eXistenZ: I have used Thunderbird, but currently use Google Groups
[03:54] <c3o> Anyone?
[03:54] <dreamer> thnx Vandalay
[03:54] <Urthmover> morning all
[03:54] <Vandalay> np -)
[03:54] <mojo> how stupid... no way to configure options?  not to mention installing electricsheep gives me the command line but does not show up in the screensaver config
[03:54] <CheshireViking> eXistenZ: i use Pan, works quite well, quite similar to forte agent
[03:54] <MuffY> nm, i found something =)
[03:54] <DARKGuy> Is there a way I can create a file and use it as output for /dev/fd0 (the floppy drive)? I got a .exe file from www.allbootdisks.com and I need it to create a Win98 bootdisk, and since it searches for the floppy drive, I want to redirect the floppy drive to a file in my HD, is that possible?
[03:55] <eXistenZ> Okay, thank you so much
[03:55] <mojo> (stumbling on electricsheep made me want to run a screensaver again)
[03:55] <phanter> eXistenZ: whast news reader do you want? (i like to have all-in-one and took thunderbird)
[03:55] <IdleOne> _JP: try packages.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.org/packages maybe
[03:55] <eXistenZ> phanter, I might stick to google groups
[03:55] <IdleOne> _JP: not sure if either of those links will help but it's a starting point
[03:55] <_JP> just curious about Qt which has staid at version 4.2.0.. is it going to get updated in edgy? do I have to run an unstable version of ubuntu to get my hands on a recent version of Qt?
[03:55] <_JP> IdleOne: ok thanks
[03:55] <Yodude> hey can someone explain to me this recovery process?
[03:56] <Urthmover> what is the path to grub.conf?
[03:56] <Yodude> 1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.
[03:56] <Yodude> 1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.
[03:56] <Yodude> 2. Open a terminal window or switch to a tty.
[03:56] <Yodude> 3. Type "grub"
[03:56] <phanter> how can I enable the network at boot time. I currently have to do ifup eth0 after a local login session (= not very usefull for a server)
[03:56] <Yodude> 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[03:56] <variant> Urthmover: ubuntu doesn't have one.. it uses menu.lst instead
[03:56] <Yodude> 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.
[03:56] <goodgerster> _JP: qt 4 is recent. and no, it will not be updated in edgy
[03:56] <Yodude> 6. Quit grub by typing "quit".
[03:56] <Yodude> 7. Reboot.
[03:56] <mabus> how can you make your own kernel in ubuntu?
[03:56] <Urthmover> k thanks variant
[03:56] <mooky> Yodude whats that all in aide of ?
[03:56] <stdin> Urthmover: there is no grub.conf, it's menu.lst and it's in /boot/grub
[03:56] <dreamer> !tvtime
[03:56] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[03:56] <dreamer> yay
[03:56] <IdleOne> !compile | mabus
[03:56] <ubotu> mabus: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:56] <Urthmover> thanks stdin
[03:56] <HymnToLife> !kernel | mabus
[03:56] <ubotu> mabus: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:56] <Vandalay> see?
[03:56] <_JP> goodgerster: yeah, but 4.2.0 is buggy
[03:56] <Yodude> helping me recover my linux after a windows reinstall
[03:57] <IdleOne> HymnToLife: you win :P
[03:57] <HymnToLife> !grub | Yodude
[03:57] <ubotu> Yodude: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:57] <goodgerster> _JP: file a bug report on this then
[03:57] <goodgerster> !launchpad | _JP
[03:57] <ubotu> _JP: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:57] <_JP> thanks goodgerster
[03:58] <Yodude> ubotu: i know i went to those links i got the way tpo od it but i have some questions
[03:58] <Yodude> i have somequestions
[03:58] <genii> HymnToLife: Ah, been working on a good grub help?
[03:58] <mooky> Yodude then ask them instead of pasting 20 lines of text
[03:58] <webben> is there a /CD/ version of Edgy?
[03:58] <claudio_> !sources.list
[03:58] <IdleOne> webben: yes
[03:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:58] <goodgerster> webben: yes...
[03:58] <HymnToLife> genii, nope lol didn't get the time
[03:58] <Yodude> lol ok mooky, it says " Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub)."
[03:59] <goodgerster> webben: it's quite hard to miss, really. I can't think how you've avoided it :)
[03:59] <Yodude> i didn't understand this step
[03:59] <nikitis> what's the command to tell if you installed Java correctly
[03:59] <webben> goodgerster, i was looking in cdimage
[03:59] <Yodude> i mean i go toi the terminal then type "root" then what?
[03:59] <mooky> Yodude what don't you understand ?
[03:59] <Urthmover> toor
[03:59] <mooky> Yodude thats not what your meant to do - go and re-read
[03:59] <Yodude> i type the name of the partition my /boot is on?
[04:00] <stdin> nikitis: java -version
[04:00] <mooky> no - go and re-read
[04:00] <genii> nikitis java -version
[04:00] <webben> thanks folks
[04:00] <nikitis> Thanks
[04:00] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  Anybody good with samba? Changed the name of a windows user and now everything is screwed up... can anyone help me get it straightned out?
[04:00] <IdleOne> agliv5: change it back
[04:01] <genii> agliv5: You changed the name on the client or in samba?
[04:01] <Yodude> ok what i understood is that i go the terminal, type "grub"
[04:01] <Yodude> then i type "root
[04:01] <Urthmover> defragging takes FOREVER......(since I don't often enough)
[04:02] <Yodude> but i didn't understand the rest i mean do i type in addition to "root" the location of my partition containing /boot?
[04:02] <Urthmover> I want the old school bit by bit graphics on like norton speeddisk......
[04:02] <c3o> My mysql server just won't run? Can anybody help me?
[04:03] <Urthmover> so what IRC client is small free and gives me a extremely minimal window in X?
[04:03] <Yodude> like for example"root (/dev/hda5)
[04:03] <goodgerster> Urthmover: linux doesn't need defragging
[04:03] <Yodude> ???
[04:04] <IdleOne> Urthmover: irssi bitchx and prolly several more
[04:04] <Urthmover> goodgerster:  but this winxp system that I'm about to put linux on the back partition does
[04:04] <Urthmover> yeah bitchX.....I need to read the docs on it  thanks Idle
[04:04] <Lunar_Lamp> Urthmover, irssi is the "classic" command line irc client.
[04:04] <Urthmover> thanks Lunar
[04:04] <snail> goodgerster: you mean that the partition formats we normally use don't need defragging. use FAT32 on linux and it still needs defragging
[04:04] <eliphas_> #lp5 needs you now!!!!
[04:04] <goodgerster> Urthmover: you don't actually need to defrag before installing linux, in my experience
[04:05] <tim167> how do I print from the terminal?
[04:05] <Yodude> mooku: like for example"root (/dev/hda5)??
[04:05] <Yodude> mooky:like for example"root (/dev/hda5)?
[04:05] <goodgerster> snail: meh
[04:05] <Urthmover> well logically it seems like a good idea...unless you want the HD arm to jump all over the place
[04:05] <mooky> Yodude I don't understand what your asking
[04:05] <phanter> where is the script located where I can add a command that must be executed at startup?
[04:05] <snail> phanter: you want the init.d system
[04:06] <Yodude> i was searching for a way to recover linux after a windows reinstall
[04:06] <mooky> Yodude so just re-install grub
[04:06] <Yodude> yes! that's what i need help with
[04:06] <phanter> snail: maybe. how can I add a command to that?
[04:06] <Urthmover> mooky wants you to read about grub
[04:06] <Yodude> i don't understand all the words in the steps
[04:06] <raul340> hola
[04:06] <g333k_work> Hi, how can I disable the Ctrl + Alt + F2, Ctrl + Alt + F3...... Ctrl + Alt + F12 ?
[04:06] <raul340> contesta
[04:06] <Yodude> can u help with explaining?
[04:07] <Urthmover> keyboard shortcuts g333k
[04:07] <sistemas> Hi everybody
[04:07] <bulmer> g333k_work:  look into /etc/securetty maybe?
[04:07] <IdleOne> !es | raul340
[04:07] <ubotu> raul340: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:07] <tim167> printing from terminal is that possible ?
[04:07] <sistemas> I tried to run super mario war in my ubuntu edgy
[04:07] <g333k_work> Urthmover, I use xfce
[04:07] <sistemas> I tried to run in my desktop
[04:07] <agliv5> IdleOne: I would change it back, but the Windows user name started with a capital leter, and Ubutnu doesn't like capital letter users...
[04:07] <snail> phanter: all the files are in  /etc/init.d/, but i'm not sure ti's what you want
[04:07] <tim167> like cat text.txt > myprinter or something ?
[04:07] <sistemas> when I run the binary
[04:07] <Urthmover> tim167  you can  <command>  then | to lp1 I bet
[04:08] <Urthmover> or > filename
[04:08] <snail> phanter: what is it you want to do?
[04:08] <Yodude> mooky: can u please? ( btw i headr of the Super Grub Disk is it the best solution?)
[04:08] <agliv5> genii: I changed the windows user name, then deleted the corrisponding ubuntu user and created a new one...
[04:08] <sistemas> I have an error when I load a shared library
[04:08] <mooky> Yodude please what ??? whats "super grub"
[04:08] <phanter> snail: well, at bootup my system does not enable network. So I have to type "ifup eth0". I want to automate this (since it will be a server)
[04:08] <tim167> Urthmover: I want to print to Paper, that white stuff with black on it
[04:08] <sistemas> I guess I have to do a link to this shared library
[04:08] <Urthmover> is there a package for super grub out yet???!??
[04:08] <Urthmover> LMAO
[04:09] <Urthmover> and the new mega LILO
[04:09] <Yodude> nothing nothing i'll ask someone else thnx anyway
[04:09] <mooky> Yodude sudo grub
[04:09] <Urthmover> kill %1  helps I've heard
[04:09] <Vandalay> sounds like a detergent
[04:09] <mooky> from the grub shell - put in root (hd6,0) if thats the right disk
[04:09] <Urthmover> lol vandalay
[04:09] <mooky> then do setup (hd0) (if thats the boot disk)
[04:09] <mooky> then do quit
[04:09] <Vandalay> -)
[04:09] <Yodude> urthmover: can u explain to me how to reinstall GRUB alone from the ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:09] <snail> phanter: that should be being done automgaically by /etc/init.d/networking
[04:09] <genii> agliv5: 1 moment, boss on phone :)
[04:10] <Urthmover> honestly no Yodude.......I would google: grub ubuntu
[04:10] <phanter> snail: then I will check that (since it does not do it automaticly :s)
[04:10] <Urthmover> and follow the docs
[04:10] <snail> phanter: I'm not sure why it's not for you, but you probably want to fix it rather than hack it yoursefl
[04:10] <Yodude> k
[04:10] <snail> phanter: good idea
[04:10] <phanter> snail: how can I fix it? where should i start to look?
[04:10] <Urthmover> if you don't care about whats in your ubuntu install...then blow away the partitions
[04:10] <Urthmover> and reinstall ubuntu
[04:10] <Urthmover> it does it for you if you don't wanna read
[04:10] <snail> phanter: have you already changed some networkign stuff?
[04:11] <snail> phanter: where did you find the command?
[04:11] <Asl[a] n> After the splash screen, i can see the azureus window for about a second. then it dies.  what could be the problem?
[04:11] <Asl[a] n> wrong VM?
[04:11] <phanter> snail: it is a fresh install (10 minutes old) and I only changed the interfaces-file (need fixed ip address)
[04:11] <snail> phanter: google around for how to fix it based on the answers to the previous two questions
[04:11] <Asl[a] n> damnation, i am lagged.
[04:12] <phanter> snail: which command do you mean?
[04:12] <tim167> I try cat txt > lp1 or cat txt | lp1 but it doesnt work, where's my printer at ../dev/pts ?
[04:12] <snail> phanter: i'm not really a networking person
[04:12] <phanter> oke
[04:12] <Urthmover> as far as CPU resources go...what is the most efficient Torrent client that I can do multiple downloads with?
[04:12] <Urthmover> qTorrent?
[04:13] <Urthmover> personally I steer clear of java bs (too cpu hoggy)
[04:13] <Urthmover> other suggestions?
[04:13] <dataman> hello
[04:13] <Vandalay> in linux the best is azureus, but u have 2 use it w sun java
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> rtorrent?
[04:13] <bauer77> urthmover I like bittornado
[04:13] <Urthmover> thx bauer
[04:13] <Vandalay> but tere are more
[04:13] <Urthmover> I feel ya vandaly...but yeah it's java
[04:13] <bauer77> no problem
[04:13] <dataman> anyone try here to run his ubuntu as a gateway for internet?
[04:13] <Asl[a] n> !azureus
[04:13] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[04:14] <Urthmover> in what way dataman?
[04:14] <Urthmover> like a firewall?
[04:14] <bulmer> dataman: yes, and you have to activate the iptables for that
[04:14] <dataman> i will show you i have a scheme
[04:14] <bauer77> its not the best user interface but it works well for not killing your internet.
[04:14] <goodgerster> Urthmover: I can recommend uTorrent under wine.
[04:14] <dataman> internet <------ra0 UBUNTU eth0-------><------xl0 OpenBSD
[04:14] <bauer77> bittornado usus python
[04:14] <Urthmover> I used to use a iptable derivative called  shorewall I think was the name
[04:14] <dataman> god
[04:15] <dataman> i know i need iptable but i don tknow how use it
[04:15] <dataman> internet <------ra0 UBUNTU eth0-------><------xl0 OpenBSD
[04:15] <dataman> i need iptable rules on my ubuntu
[04:15] <Urthmover> dataman.....go read about shorewall
[04:15] <goodgerster> !enter | dataman
[04:15] <ubotu> dataman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:15] <Vandalay> just use "firstarter, which is a nice gui-frontend for iptables
[04:15] <dataman> shorewall?
[04:15] <Vandalay> er firestarter
[04:15] <Urthmover> there are many apps that simplify the iptables policy stuff
[04:15] <bulmer> dataman: i think the ipfw on openbsd is harder..but they should be almost same as iptables
[04:15] <mnoir> dataman: i use an old PC running IPCop as a NATted firewall
[04:15] <Urthmover> isnt that a movie vandalay
[04:15] <Urthmover> lol
[04:16] <redoverlord> hi. just updated to edgy, but with the generic linux image (and nvidia), but then the system wont boot. any help from u guys?
[04:16] <Vandalay> mb too -)
[04:16] <dataman> firestarter is a package?
[04:16] <Urthmover> with the crazy girl that married Tom Green
[04:16] <Urthmover> lol
[04:16] <mooky> no - its fresh air
[04:16] <Vandalay> its even a song by the prodigy
[04:16] <Urthmover> oh yeah
[04:16] <Urthmover> lol
[04:16] <Urthmover> I love me some wipeout
[04:16] <Urthmover> LMAO
[04:16] <genii> agliv5: OK, back :) So as I gather you are directly mapping windoze usernames to unix usernames? eg: not going thru smbpassword to create users
[04:16] <Asl[a] n> Vandalay, the architect?
[04:17] <Vandalay> no..the latex salesman
[04:17] <Asl[a] n> just the other day, Jon Stewart pulled out a quip out of seinfeld and put it in his act- saying he loved the show
[04:17] <Urthmover> oh new question.....So when I install ubuntu will it automatically mount  the windows partitions (NTFS)  .... allowing me to browse to /dev/hda or whatever...and suck files over?
[04:18] <Vandalay> hehe yes seinfeld rules
[04:18] <Urthmover> but you get my drift....will it do that?
[04:18] <Urthmover> I heard of something called FUSE
[04:18] <Vandalay> mb u have to put mount lines in /etc/fstab
[04:18] <Urthmover> but I think it was on my Slax stuff
[04:18] <phanter> snail: found the problem... stupid. Was using the old debian-interfaces file for ubuntu. Had to replace one word and it worked (just in case you wanted to know this :))
[04:18] <Urthmover> ah fstab
[04:18] <Urthmover> okie dokey
[04:19] <agliv5> genii: I thought it would be easier that way...
[04:19] <devilsadvocate> im having trouble mounting my ubuntu drive on windows using the ext2 ifs.. can anyone help me? it says the drive is not formatted
[04:19] <snail> phanter: and now network comes up automagically?
[04:19] <Vandalay> if u use ntfs, install kmods ntfs & mb ntfs-3g
[04:19] <Urthmover> so why haven't MUDs gotten cooler?
[04:19] <mooky> devilsadvocate thats not an ubuntu problem
[04:19] <snail> devilsadvocate: windows basically can't mount ext2
[04:19] <Urthmover> ok I'll google that thanks vandalay
[04:19] <devilsadvocate> i know mooky
[04:19] <Vandalay> ur welcome
[04:20] <snail> devilsadvocate: you need to use FAT / NTFS
[04:20] <Urthmover> I use Fart64
[04:20] <goodgerster> anyone got a relevant question?
[04:20] <devilsadvocate> snail, i know. i used a kernel module that adds ext support to windows
[04:20] <Urthmover> smells great
[04:20] <pbureau> goodgerster -  morning
[04:20] <mooky> devilsadvocate so ask the package maintainers
[04:20] <goodgerster> good $TIME_PERIOD, pbureau
[04:20] <Urthmover> mooky is roothless
[04:21] <snail> devilsadvocate: we're not telepathic. competely describe your problem or go hassle someone else
[04:21] <mooky> Urthmover no just respects the channels rules
[04:21] <genii> agliv5: Please pastebin your smb.conf file and I will see if I can help
[04:21] <Urthmover> I walk a fine line friend
[04:21] <Urthmover> new question.....what if I wanna upgrade from Novell 3.12?
[04:21] <dvheumen> is there any way to discover how to configure X for DRI on an ATI Mobility M9+ card based on the Knoppix configuration? (Because Knoppix has DRI when I run 'glxinfo'.)
[04:21] <goodgerster> Urthmover: er, format
[04:22] <Urthmover> lol
[04:22] <Urthmover> on this windows machine....0irc   its is really a great little irc client
[04:23] <Urthmover> it's about 100K
[04:23] <agliv5> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2980/
[04:23] <Urthmover> looks like bitch kinda
[04:23] <Urthmover> all command line
[04:23] <goodgerster> !enter | Urthmover
[04:23] <noelferreira> i use tvtime with this card: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[04:23] <noelferreira>  i have no sound
[04:23] <noelferreira>  any help?
[04:23] <ubotu> Urthmover: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:23] <jo1> Can someone tell me how to uninstall a program I installed with wine?
[04:23] <Vandalay> use use this too it must work
[04:23] <Urthmover> ok ok ....(enter)   I get it
[04:24] <poi> hi all, is it possible to record the screen unter ubuntu like you can do it with camtasia or contribute under windows?
[04:24] <genii> agliv5: OK I'll return shortly
[04:24] <tim167> how do I see all the programs I have installed (i know i have cd burning software but i dont know what its called)
[04:24] <goodgerster> jo1: there should be an uninstall program hidden in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[04:24] <Vandalay> look in alsamixer
[04:24] <Poromenos> How can I make the fonts smaller, more like the windows equivalents? Everything looks so big...
[04:24] <mnoir> poi - are they commandline recorders?
[04:24] <Urthmover> compacting files of big blank torrents takes forever
[04:25] <bulmer> tim167: most packages can be listed like so   dpkg -l
[04:25] <Vandalay> install webcore fonts
[04:25] <Poromenos> Vandalay: how do i do that?
[04:25] <Poromenos> Vandalay: aptitude?
[04:25] <Vandalay> & system-prefs-fonts
[04:25] <poi> mnoir: no, I want to record what I am doing for my kids at school
[04:25] <Vandalay> in gnome menu
[04:25] <Poromenos> Vandalay: ah, okay, thanks
[04:25] <genii> agliv5: I think i see the issue. Is the windows username also  agliv?
[04:25] <tim167> bulmer thanks! that's what i needed
[04:26] <bulmer> np
[04:26] <poi> mnoir: I changed from windows to ubuntu. No I am looking for a program to record teh screen
[04:26] <stdin> poi: recordmydesktop or xvidcap
[04:26] <Urthmover> yeah I think mplayer has some external tools that do that from commandline
[04:27] <__james> what's the command in terminal to know what device is on my usb
[04:27] <poi> stdin: thx I check those
[04:27] <LjL> __james: lsusb
[04:27] <Pirate-king> hello
[04:27] <agliv5> genii: the old user name was Jedi as the Ubuntu name, then I changed (in windows) Jedi to jedi, deleted (in Ubuntu) Jedi and added jedi
[04:27] <devilsadvocate> __james, try dmesg
[04:27] <jo1> Thanks! Worked perfectly.
[04:27] <mobal> hi guys'
[04:28] <amnesiac> anyone can help??
[04:28] <goodgerster> !ask | amnesiac
[04:28] <ubotu> amnesiac: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <amnesiac> i have ubuntu ubuntu 6.06
[04:28] <genii> agliv5: The problem is that the permissions of the folder in /home/agliv  do not allow a windows user of other that agliv with the proper unix password access
[04:29] <variant> amnesiac: thats hardly an affliction
[04:29] <amnesiac> can not login as non-root
[04:29] <goodgerster> variant: :P
[04:29] <amnesiac> it says "cannot cd to /home/myuser"
[04:29] <variant> amnesiac: did you try to set a root password?
[04:29] <goodgerster> amnesiac: there is no root user in ubuntu by default...
[04:29] <Pirate-king> I just installed ubuntu and wireless assistant my networks from the router shows up, I do dmesg and the wireless card shoews upI go to connection properties and eth1 which is the wireless card doesn't show up
[04:29] <devilsadvocate> amnesiac, did you try to make a new user?
[04:29] <agliv5> genii: it was working fine untill I wanted to change the permissions of some files that I copied from windows to the ubuntu shared folder...
[04:29] <amnesiac> yes i know
[04:30] <goodgerster> Pirate-king: try using network-manager..
[04:30] <amnesiac> but i have activated it
[04:30] <variant> amnesiac: probably there is no /home/myuser directory or the permissions on /home/myuser have been damaged
[04:30] <goodgerster> !network-manager | Pirate-king
[04:30] <ubotu> Pirate-king: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:30] <agliv5> genii: Not even Jedi had access to change the permissions...
[04:30] <variant> amnesiac: you broke it in other words :)
[04:30] <pike_> Pirate-king: can you "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"  then "iwlist eth1 scan" to look for networks?
[04:30] <Asl[a] n> does anyone know some light-weight/console-based torrent clients apart from the original client and the bittornado client?
[04:30] <Chousuke> rtorrent
[04:31] <Asl[a] n> !bittorrent
[04:31] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[04:31] <amnesiac> i was playing with the symlinks and happened this thing
[04:31] <variant> amnesiac: what did you do exactly?
[04:31] <Asl[a] n> ok...lemme check it up
[04:31] <amnesiac> when i try to create a new user it says : symlink permission denied
[04:31] <variant> amnesiac: do you have any files in /home/myuser that you need to keep?
[04:31] <amnesiac> yes
[04:31] <noelferreira> i use tvtime with this card: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[04:31] <variant> amnesiac: can you log in as root?
[04:31] <Urthmover> GRRRRR defrag stopped due to low power comsumption  (plugging in now)
[04:31] <amnesiac> yes
[04:31] <noelferreira> no sound any help?
[04:32] <amnesiac> as root i can
[04:32] <variant> amnesiac: so login as root and do ls -al /home/ and copy the output to pastebin
[04:32] <g333k_work> Hi, is the flash player plug-in 9 available in the ubuntu repos?
[04:32] <genii> agliv5: There are 2 basics mathods you can use. You can change ownership of the subdirectories which are shared to belong to user jedi. Or you can put into the smb.conf some settings which relax the write permissions.
[04:33] <amnesiac> i did a backup of my home
[04:33] <joe4> Ok... one more question, I am trying to remove a program I installed (not with wine just a normal program) and it doesn't show up in the "Add/Remove...", So... How would I remove this?
[04:33] <variant> amnesiac: please just do as I ask or I can't help you
[04:33] <Vandalay> i must have the "audigy analog/digital output jack" checkbox checked
[04:33] <amnesiac> ok
[04:33] <Vandalay> in gnome volume cxontrol
[04:33] <r_rehashed> X11R72 out? will Feisty be using it?
[04:35] <Vandalay> & check if the saa73 card has pci audio-input or via an external line
[04:35] <r_rehashed> X11R71 doesn't support my intel card, 946GZ
[04:35] <jrib> joe4: how did you install it?
[04:35] <mrpurple> !xinerama
[04:35] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:36] <joe4> jrib: I ran the .deb file
[04:36] <jrib> joe4: use synaptic
[04:36] <agliv5> genii: I would like full permissions on all network files, if that is possible...
[04:37] <r_rehashed> X server crashed when I restarted it after enabling aiglx
[04:37] <tim167> how do I burn an ISO image to CD ?
[04:37] <genii> agliv5: OK I will open a separate chat for you. One moment
[04:37] <Vandalay> aiglx only works w the 2 latest nvidiadrivers
[04:38] <stdin> !burn | tim167
[04:38] <ubotu> tim167: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:38] <tim167> ok
[04:39] <DaveJ_> i'm about to install ubuntu, when i get to the disk partioning section, i have an option to pick (1) Erase IDE1 (hda), (2) use largest continuos free space or manually edit table, /dev/hda1 is a 54Mb recovery partition, hda2 is my ntfs win zip partition which has 7.39 Gb free, hda3 is an extended partition of 10gb split into hda5 a 2gb fat32 and unallocated space 7.82gb, if i select use largest continuous free space, that wants to format partiti
[04:39] <DaveJ_> on#6 of hda as swap and #4 of hda as ext3, is that definately going to use the unallocated space and not overwrite my ntfs partition?
[04:39] <Laffey> What is the name of the Terminal Internet Browser?
[04:40] <dreamer> Vandalay: aarg, I had tv-time running just after install, I got the screen running, but no sound, now when I start it up the system crashes at least X and the keyboard
[04:40] <amnesiac> variant
[04:40] <amnesiac> http://paste.stirk.org/?id=2861 - the pastebin
[04:40] <redoverlord> Laffey, lynk
[04:40] <Laffey> ty
[04:41] <variant> amnesiac: thanks
[04:41] <variant> amnesiac: presumably infomaster is the user you can't access the home dir of?
[04:41] <joe4> Ok, I am in synaptic, and I found it and I clicked mark for removal. So what to do now? (Sorry first time using ubuntu x_x)
[04:42] <amnesiac> yes
[04:42] <BlueEagle> joe4: Did you read the manual?
[04:42] <Vandalay> mb theres something wrong in you etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <jrib> !synaptic | joe4
[04:42] <ubotu> joe4: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:42] <jrib> joe4: you just hit the "apply" button now
[04:43] <Bobbix> http://hostap.epitest.fi site is off, any idea how to find wpa_supplicant documentation ???
[04:43] <dv5237_> hello, when i close the lid of my notebook my wireless stops sending can i disable this?
[04:43] <mrpurple> i have to download xinerama ?
[04:43] <joe4> jrib: Its greyed out.
[04:43] <Vandalay> er no that cant be it
[04:43] <mrpurple> or are just textual istruction ?
[04:44] <BlueEagle> dv5237_: I believe you can. The clue is to catch the signal emitted from the lid indicator and just ignoring it. How you would accomplish that is another matter.
[04:44] <mojo> redoverlord: lynx is it not?
[04:45] <Trixsey> Why is the repositories so slow on adding new software?
[04:45] <Trixsey> In case they would be buggy?
[04:45] <r_rehashed> why does the device manager not recognise my processor?
[04:45] <bretzel>  Hello there, any available for some techi grub manip ?
[04:45] <Trixsey> Most new software actually solves bugs rather than implements new ones :P
[04:45] <Bobbix> Whre is http://hostap.epitest.fi (wpa_supplicant home???)
[04:45] <__james> where can i find my  phone on the usb? on which folder
[04:45] <redoverlord> mojo, lynx or links. both work
[04:46] <syllogism> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[04:46] <mojo> redoverlord: oic
[04:46] <ratschnowski> hello , i am using ubuntu 6.10 and do not manage to install java
[04:46] <dv5237_> hallo, wanneer ik het scherm van mijn notebook dicht doe stopt mijn wireless met de verbinding kan ik dit ook uitzetten
[04:46] <dv5237_> hello, when i close the lid of my notebook my wireless stops sending can i disable this?
[04:46] <pike_> syllogism: april
[04:46] <ratschnowski> when doing aptitude sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin packets are not found
[04:46] <ratschnowski> i activated multiverse repositories, but still noch chance
[04:47] <r_rehashed> the processor is an intel core 2 duo, e6300. but the device manager shows `unknown' for vendor and device
[04:47] <bretzel> -- grub on (usb drive)sdc , /boot on sdb1(hardisk) -- boot from sdc( bios popmenu ) result: grub reports error 22
[04:47] <Vandalay> arent there sunjava howto's onthe forum
[04:47] <jrib> ratschnowski: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <pike_> dv5237_: you might get a better response posting the question on ubuntuforums.org
[04:47] <ratschnowski> does any one have an idea how to install java on 6.10 or are there any repositories to be used for?
[04:47] <Bobbix> where is http://hostap.epitest.fi site? Where can i find wpa_supplicant documentation ??? Please answer if you know
[04:47] <ratschnowski> jrib : hold on
[04:47] <dv5237_> pike_: thanks ill give that a try
[04:48] <mojo> redoverlord: fwiw, you said lynk, not lynx nor link ;)
[04:48] <mojo> redoverlord: but methinks Laffey is gone
[04:48] <Julle> Does anyone know of a dist that is a gateway for Two networkcards in the same computer?
[04:49] <syllogism> Julle: could be any distribution. . .
[04:49] <redoverlord> mojo : typo mistake (too much beer)
[04:49] <mojo> redoverlord: cheers!
[04:49] <Vandalay> there are lots of it
[04:49] <ratschnowski> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/329207
[04:49] <bretzel> had to copy sdc.mbr in c:\sdc.boot, add entry in c:\boot.ini and then let the usb drive plugged and then boot from xp boot menu....to launch grub from c:\sdc.boot with usb drive connected ?
[04:50] <mojo> Julle: you should be able to do that in pretty much any linux distro
[04:50] <BlueEagle> julle: Any linux distro should be capable of that provided you can install iptables into the kernel (ie. they use the standard kernel)
[04:50] <genii> ping agliv5
[04:50] <genii> bah
[04:50] <Vandalay> iptables is in the kernel  how nice is that -)
[04:51] <jrib> ratschnowski: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:51] <pike_> Julle: i have heard it is pretty easy to setup with the firestarter application (graphical front end to configuring iptables).  you might buy a wrt54gL and install openwrt on it if you want ot really play around
[04:51] <ratschnowski> i did that
[04:51] <ratschnowski> the paket is not found
[04:51] <jrib> ratschnowski: pastebin the output
[04:51] <mojo> Julle: unless you are meaning to run a special purpose computer with multiple network cards... then you may want a specialized distro for whatever purpose (router, etc)
[04:51] <BlueEagle> julle: I have found that shorewall provides an excellent interface for setting up firewalls and iprouting/masquerading.
[04:51] <Julle> mojo yes but i am beginner at linux and networking and would like something that is almost plug n play? like SmoothWall is as a firewall
[04:51] <amnesiac> variant any idea?
[04:51] <hexidigital> is there a way to alias a sendmail message, but keep the message for the originally intended username?
[04:52] <variant> amnesiac: sorry, i'm at work and had some to do there..
[04:52] <Vandalay> !firestarter
[04:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:52] <variant> amnesiac: it doesn't look liek a permissions problem
[04:52] <eodchop> I am going to by a wifi card for my laptop, can anyone suggest a good one that works with Ubuntu
[04:52] <ratschnowski> jrib: E: Konnte Paket sun-java5-jre nicht finden
[04:52] <ratschnowski> which means, packet could not be found
[04:52] <jrib> ratschnowski: all the output
[04:52] <variant> amnesiac: unless you symlinked /home/infomaster to another directory that has root perms??
[04:52] <BlueEagle> julle: Doesn't smoothwall use shorewall?
[04:52] <mojo> Julle: hmm...Firestarter has settings for multiple net cards to "enable internet connection sharing"... is this along the lines of what you want to do?
[04:53] <jrib> ratschnowski: do LANG=en_US  first so I can understand :)
[04:53] <pike_> eodchop: id get one that has an external antenna port.  other than that check some wardriving forums (those still around?) fro recommendations.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> jrib: E: Can't find the package sun-java5-jre
[04:53] <agliv5> genii: trying to contact me?
[04:53] <amnesiac> no i didn't
[04:53] <dreamer> anybody here exprience with tvtime?
[04:53] <Bobbix> wpa_supplicant documentation ??? where ???
[04:53] <amnesiac> if i want to create a new user
[04:53] <pike_> eodchop: i use a proxim orinoco
[04:54] <jrib> ratschnowski: specifically, i'm interested in the result of the "update"
[04:54] <eodchop> is that the chipset or the model?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> !ask | dreamer
[04:54] <ubotu> dreamer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:54] <dreamer> :P
[04:54] <ratschnowski> ok, hold on
[04:54] <genii> agliv5 Yes, I have another irc window open to you for private talking but you seem to not be responding there
[04:54] <eodchop> will a belkin or linkys work
[04:54] <variant> eodchop: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ this is a good link
[04:54] <Vandalay> cant help you dreamer, i never had probs w tvtime
[04:54] <amnesiac> it begins to create user, home , and when says : copying from /etc/skel , get this error - symlink permission denied
[04:54] <mojo> Julle: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[04:54] <eodchop> variant: oh kewl, thanks!
[04:55] <mojo> Julle: I can't speak to shorewall / smoothwall as i use firestarter
[04:55] <variant> amnesiac: useradd -m -G users,admin,audio,video usernamehere
[04:55] <Vandalay> it has only no teletext
[04:55] <jrib> ratschnowski: if LANG doesn't work, use LANGUAGE:  LANGUAGE=en_US sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <variant> amnesiac: ah, you broke a symlink in /etc/skel?
[04:55] <variant> amnesiac: what files were you trying to modify exactly?
[04:55] <ratschnowski> works, i am just a bit slow as i am administrating via vnc and copie does not work well ...
[04:56] <amnesiac> was playing with samba
[04:56] <variant> amnesiac: I see
[04:56] <amnesiac> and created a symlink
[04:56] <amnesiac> to /
[04:56] <variant> amnesiac: that was a mistake...
[04:56] <amnesiac> to see if it could be accessed
[04:56] <Vandalay> 2 things in linux ill never understand..lirc & samba
[04:56] <amnesiac> from a winxp machine
[04:56] <variant> amnesiac: where does hte symlink point to or from?
[04:56] <agliv5> genii: In my seperate irc window, I've writen you a few replies, but you haven't responded to the past two...
[04:57] <ratschnowski> jrib: pastebin.ca/329217
[04:57] <ratschnowski> thats the update thing
[04:57] <amnesiac> created it under /home/infomaster/ and it pointed to /
[04:57] <amnesiac> but i removed it
[04:57] <variant> amnesiac: do "readlink /home/infomaster/nameofsymlinkhere"
[04:57] <variant> amnesiac: ok
[04:58] <ratschnowski> when trying to install: couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[04:58] <genii> agliv5 OK. Close that window. I will close the window I have. Then I will try to open another one.
[04:58] <variant> amnesiac: man, sounds like you borked something.. do you have /home on a seperate partition?
[04:58] <jrib> ratschnowski: something is wrong.  You posted sources.list doesn't have -backports yet your update does
[04:58] <amnesiac> no same partition as /
[04:58] <variant> amnesiac: doh!
[04:58] <agliv5> genii: closed
[04:58] <hive> Hi all.  I am looking in my TCPDUMP because my wireless card seems to be flashing alot, and I am seeing alot of messages like:
[04:58] <ratschnowski> ui, posted the wrong one
[04:58] <bretzel> nevermind for grub, so from fresh ubuntu install : what is recommended ? install the pending 131 updates before going nvidia::AIGXL  + beryl ?
[04:58] <hive> Hi all.  I am looking in my TCPDUMP because my wireless card seems to be flashing alot, and I am seeing alot of messages like:  10:52:29.088666 IP by1msg5176513.phx.gbl.msnp > 192.168.0.2.49165: P 3303:3311(8) ack 265 win 64164 <nop,nop,timestamp 46008748 25863001>
[04:58] <amnesiac> either gdm does not star
[04:58] <hive> oops. crap, sorry
[04:59] <amnesiac> start*
[04:59] <jrib> ratschnowski: are you sure the pasted sources.list reflects the current sources.list?
[04:59] <variant> amnesiac: For simplicities sake i would say back up and reinstall. in future keep a log of any big changes you make (write down the commands) so that you can properly undoo them if it goes wrong
[04:59] <ratschnowski> hold on
[04:59] <variant> amnesiac: or try to get someone prepared to spend enoughtime to help you fix it
[04:59] <genii> agliv5 I opened a new one and put "hello" there. do you see it?
[05:00] <mojo> Vandalay: lirc?  i used to use this on my audigy 2zs, but it has been a while
[05:00] <agliv5> genii: just wrote you in the other window
[05:00] <amnesiac> ok thnx variant
[05:00] <Vandalay> yes..you have to confiure it..
[05:00] <Vandalay> g
[05:00] <Vandalay> but how.
[05:00] <Vandalay> but np
[05:01] <ratschnowski> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/329222
[05:01] <ratschnowski> thats the correct sources.list
[05:01] <genii> agliv5 I am not seeing it. Let me close it again. close yours also then attempt from your side to open one to me instead.
[05:02] <agliv5> genii: how do I open a chat with you?
[05:02] <genii> agliv5 Is the name agliv5 registered here with the nickserv ?
[05:02] <jrib> ratschnowski:  ok, that one does not have dapper multiverse, it only has dapper-backports multiverse
[05:02] <mojo> Vandalay: biggest problem i had was getting the right /dev entry to look at.  i think it was /dev/snd/midic1d1 or something... where c#d# was card number and data channel number.  having motherboard sound complicated my setup, since the audigy was as a secondary soundcard.
[05:02] <agliv5> I think so
[05:02] <agliv5> genii: I think so
[05:03] <Da5iD101> If a USB external drive isn't listed in fstab and autofs isn't installed, how is it mounting it automatically?
[05:03] <mojo> Vandalay: but yes, config was a bear and ymmv with different cards.  creative cards feed the IR as midi input, though, if that helps
[05:03] <genii> agliv5 Let me try direct chat. One moment
[05:03] <ratschnowski> just recognized it ...
[05:03] <ratschnowski> thanx, hope it works now
[05:03] <Vandalay> i see..thnx
[05:03] <jrib> ratschnowski: should work now, np
[05:03] <mojo> Vandalay: other thing with the audigy cards is you have to send a special text string out the midi to activate the ir receiver on the external box
[05:04] <Math^> hello, can someone please help me... my sound onboard works, but I get some cracking sound to it
[05:04] <B_166-ER-X> Hello, i'm a ubuntu new user, I've installed it on my laptop and I can't configure my keyboard correctly someone may help?
[05:04] <Math^> in it
[05:04] <mojo> Vandalay: what sound card do you have, anyway?
[05:04] <Vandalay> ok but i have a serial ir reciever with my pinnacle pctv stereo
[05:05] <Vandalay> & a audigy2 card without breakoutbox
[05:05] <mojo> Vandalay: oic :)  can't help ya there
[05:05] <Vandalay> -)
[05:05] <variant> !lirc
[05:05] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[05:05] <Julle> mojo are you able you share you internet connection through Firestarter?
[05:05] <variant> anyone know if htere is an lirc gui?
[05:05] <Da5iD101> Math^: I've had that problem when my master volume and PCM volume were turned up too high.  You might want to check that.
[05:05] <mojo> Julle: yes i had that working in the past, but i have moved and our network is set up differently now
[05:05] <Math^> I've got a VIA8235 soundcard, it works, but it makes a disturbing sound like when you plug in the cable, someone know what's going on?
[05:06] <Math^> Da5iD101: yes
[05:06] <mojo> Julle: I have three network cards on my machine... two on the motherboard and a realtek pci card
[05:06] <Math^> Da5iD101: indeed, with PCM
[05:07] <mojo> variant: not to my knowledge... but google is ur friend "lirc gui"
[05:07] <nikitis> How do I re-associate a file type to a different program from Firefox?
[05:07] <Math^> Da5iD101: I realy need to fix this... otherwise Ive to install windows 98 on this system (not my system) :/
[05:07] <Julle> okey! sounds good, well my computer is kinda old that i am having for this, its a Cyrix 300 mhz, 64 Ram and 840 MB HDD. What dist should i run on it to use firestater with it ?
[05:07] <variant> mojo: obviously that was my first (unsuccesful) attempt
[05:07] <Julle> mojo Firestater is GUI right?
[05:07] <mojo> Julle: firestarter is in the ubuntu repositories
[05:07] <XVampireX> What do you see in Vista?
[05:07] <mojo> variant: sry! ;)
[05:08] <Urthmover> you mean from vista
[05:08] <Da5iD101> Math^: Have you tried other speakers/headphones?
[05:08] <Math^> Da5iD101: yes
[05:08] <Vandalay> firestarter is just a handy gui tool for making settings in the iptables
[05:08] <nikitis> Anyone?
[05:08] <mojo> Julle: programs like firestarter et all, so far as i know, actually make changes to iptables
[05:08] <Math^> Da5iD101: I tried all ways, also with alsamixer
[05:09] <redoverlord> Julle, debian or slack. and forget gui.
[05:09] <mojo> Julle: iptables being the kernel module that does the actual packet filtering and re-routing and such
[05:09] <Vandalay> if the setting in iptables are good you dont have to run firestarter again
[05:09] <pike_> Julle: you might consider damns small linux. it is a livecd based on debian i think and has apt-get. it would give you an idea of what is involved before you actually install..
[05:10] <NetCruZa> Is it possible to limit how much bandwidth a specific application on my computer is allowed to use? It is the Firefox Extension called "DownThemAll"
[05:10] <brianski> akayta mikuy supiyta pitay
[05:10] <pike_> Julle: 840 meg hd is the key there
[05:10] <LjL> !english | brianski
[05:10] <ubotu> brianski: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:11] <frogzoo> can anyone recommend a pkg from the repos that will load a raw iptables config at startup & save at shutdown - not firestarter etc, want something text based
[05:11] <mojo> Julle: redoverlord may be right, in the end... advanced config like that is probably best done via command-line changes to iptables rules.  but firestarter may work for simple two-card setup if one is the internet connecton and the 2nd computer is connected to your linux box's 2nd net card (making you it's router when all is said and done)
[05:11] <nikitis> i need help here with firefox program associations.  Currently firefox opens .torrent files with the wrong torrent application.  How do I change this?
[05:11] <Vandalay> textbased argh
[05:11] <LjL> Ubotu, tell frogzoo about shorewall | frogzoo, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:11] <Vandalay> my eyes -)
[05:11] <LjL> frogzoo: i believe that's text based. but for what you asked, why don't you just use iptables itself?
[05:11] <mojo> Julle: how is your network set up?  or, what is it you are trying to accomplish in more detail.  you can /msg me if you like
[05:12] <frogzoo> LjL: that's exactly what I do want - but I need something to load the tables at startup
[05:12] <jrib> frogzoo: have you read teh suggestions on the wiki page for iptables?
[05:12] <Da5iD101> Math^: I'm not sure what could be wrong..  Try muting everything in alsamixer one at a time and see if something is wrong there.
[05:12] <frogzoo> jrib: I'll check it out, thx
[05:12] <LjL> frogzoo: man iptables-restore and man iptables-save
[05:12] <JohnnyX_> i have two harddrives one 40gig with ubuntu on it and one 75gig thats empty, is there a way i can partition it and move everything from harddrive 1 to harddrive 2?
[05:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell frogzoo about boot | frogzoo, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:12] <jrib> frogzoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:13] <Da5iD101> If a USB external drive isn't listed in fstab and autofs isn't installed, how is it mounting it automatically?
[05:13] <NetCruZa> I need something like "NetLimiter"... It is a bandwidth shaper that works on an per-application-basis?
[05:13] <Math^> Da5iD101: only when muting PCM its gone... but then Ive got no sound
[05:13] <LjL> frogzoo: what's in the wiki is probably a better idea though (well, cleaner at any rate), see "Configuration on startup" paragraph
[05:13] <NetCruZa> Like saying that Firefox is only allowed to use 200 kbit/s
[05:14] <nikitis> Nobody  knows how to reassociate firefox extensions?
[05:14] <LjL> !trickle | NetCruZa
[05:14] <ubotu> trickle: user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 164 kB
[05:14] <Vandalay> it is in the preferences
[05:14] <jrib> nikitis: reassociate firefox extensions?  What does that mean?
[05:14] <whiteline> I just isntalled ndisgtk, it recognizes my wireless wmpg54gs.inf hardware but it doesent display a wireless option in network settings.
[05:14] <NetCruZa> LjL: and obotu: Thanks
[05:14] <jim88> !ubotu
[05:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:15] <nikitis> jrib, i accidentally when downloading a .torrent file.  associated it to open up the wrong torrent application.  I want to change this.  How is this done?
[05:15] <Da5iD101> Math^: My PCM volume is about half, if I give it full, I get distorted sound.
[05:15] <Vandalay> ff -pref-downloads-actions
[05:15] <stephans> What does this mean???
[05:15] <LjL> stephans: ... if you told us what
[05:15] <jrib> nikitis: do you understand what Vandalay means?  I believe that is how you do it
[05:15] <nikitis> Vandalay, .torrent isn't showing up there
[05:15] <stephans> /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:145: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
[05:15] <stephans> /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:149: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
[05:15] <stephans> make[2] : *** [/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o]  Error 1
[05:15] <stephans> make[1] : *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only]  Error 2
[05:15] <Math^> Da5iD101: also when I have it half down I get this enoying sound :(
[05:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell stephans about paste | stephans, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:15] <jrib> !paste | stephans
[05:15] <ubotu> stephans: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <joe4> Does anyone know where/if I can get a pre compiled flash 9 beta for ubuntu?
[05:15] <Vandalay> nikitis, just open a torrent
[05:16] <Vandalay> with firefox
[05:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell stephans about vmware | stephans, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:16] <jim88> !goodgerster
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about goodgerster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <brianski> LjL, that message is hilarious.
[05:16] <stephans> but but that was just a coupple of lines...
[05:16] <Vandalay> & selct program(azureus etc) whit which to open it
[05:16] <Da5iD101> Math^: Hmm.. I have no idea what could be wrong, sorry :(
[05:16] <LjL> stephans: too many to be exact
[05:16] <nikitis> Vandalay, i do and it opens up a crappy torrent application
[05:16] <gumpppy3> can access yahoo with suse linux but not with ubuntu---both use firefox---any ideas why?
[05:16] <Vandalay> & check te box "do this auto from now on"
[05:16] <brianski> if you don't know how to read, read this simple 1-2-3 explanation
[05:16] <mojo> LjL: i think content tab on preferences has file types, but am not 100% sure that's where you'll find the .torrent thing set
[05:16] <genii> agliv5 The private chat is not working. Anyhow, I made a smb.conf which should work for what you need. It is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2984/
[05:17] <LjL> mojo: what?
[05:17] <nikitis> Vandalay, you don't understand, i'm past that point. I did that accidentally with the wrong program.  and now that box doesn't come up any longer
[05:17] <nikitis> i need it to so I can change it
[05:17] <nikitis> but it no longer comes up
[05:17] <Vandalay> if neccesary browse for the bittorrentclient bin
[05:17] <mojo> LjL: sry, wrong user, meant for jrib
[05:17] <mojo> jrib: i think content tab on preferences has file types, but am not 100% sure that's where you'll find the .torrent thing set
[05:17] <Linuturk> my ubuntu dapper server locked up at about 12:30 am this morning. Are there any logs I can check?
[05:17] <genii> agliv5 After you change the file you will need to do: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:17] <esculapius> hello
[05:17] <nikitis> Vandalay, and delete it?
[05:18] <whiteline> clear
[05:18] <nikitis> how can I browse to the .bin if the window no longer comes up
[05:18] <Vandalay> ok..i see..
[05:18] <agliv5> genii: thanks will try it out
[05:18] <whiteline> I just isntalled ndisgtk, it recognizes my wireless wmpg54gs.inf hardware but it doesent display a wireless option in network settings.
[05:18] <Vandalay> if have had this prob too, just dont know how to reset it
[05:18] <Vandalay> at this moment
[05:18] <esculapius> anyone could suggest the best access point+usb or pmcia devices to use under dapper 6.06 with my notebook.One that certainly will work easily
[05:18] <mnoir> Linuturk: start with /var/log - do an ls -latr there to see the most often written ones
[05:19] <pike_> esculapius: looking for a wireless router?
[05:19] <RadicalDreamer> Uhm. Hello. I would like to reconfigurate automatically my net connections, IP assignations, everything. But I tried to run DhClient and I get a lot of "permission denied" and "operation not permitted", even if I run it as root. Can you help me?
[05:19] <esculapius> yes
[05:19] <Vandalay> in my dl-actions in ff there is an torrent-extensioj
[05:19] <nikitis> Vandalay, how would I look it up?  Google doesn't seem to be answering my question.  Probably cause i'm not asking the write search query
[05:19] <LjL> RadicalDreamer: i have no idea why that would happen... but a better idea is editing /etc/network/interfaces anyway
[05:19] <pike_> esculapius: i plug the wrt54gL all the time great little router
[05:19] <genii> agliv5 It is a simple solution which just maps any user to the user that owns /home/agliv
[05:19] <LjL> RadicalDreamer: "man interfaces" for the usage
[05:19] <Linuturk> mnoir: what am I looking for?
[05:20] <pike_> esculapius: like $58 on newegg
[05:20] <nikitis> Vandalay, there's not in mine
[05:20] <mous16> giorno a tutti
[05:20] <RadicalDreamer> Thanks, LjL.
[05:20] <mnoir> Linuturk: i don't know - mostly what was happening when the sys locked up - you are on a treasure hunt  :)
[05:20] <Vandalay> i saw that there is not a "add new action" tab
[05:20] <agliv5> genii: testparm says WARNING: passdb expand explicit = yes is deprecated
[05:21] <gilligan_> hi
[05:21] <genii> agliv5 Thats fine
[05:21] <gilligan_> are there any mirrors to grab feisty herd2 from ? cdimage.ubuntu.com is /very/ slow for me
[05:21] <mnoir> Linuturk: depending on the cause, you might see nothing that helps
[05:21] <agliv5> genii: and forced user is unknown
[05:21] <mooky> gilligan_ nope
[05:21] <mooky> gilligan_ just look on the website for mirrors
[05:21] <variant> gilligan_: try bittorrent
[05:22] <agliv5> genii: Unknown parameter encountered: "forced user"
[05:22] <genii> agliv5 ah, you have an older samba distribution then. Wait a moment and I will do another way
[05:22] <mnoir> ubuntu doesn't just  lock up a lot - this might be hard to find...
[05:22] <agliv5> genii: ok
[05:22] <Linuturk> well, I'm looking through what I assume are the modified dates mnoir , and I'm not seeing anything at that paticular time
[05:22] <Menisk> Are there any good speech recognition engines for ubuntu 6.10?
[05:22] <Linuturk> at least, at the time the server locked up.
[05:22] <nikitis> Vandalay, agreed, very slopy on Firefox
[05:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Menisk about spheex | Menisk, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spheex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <mnoir> Linuturk: are ther entries after you know it 'locked up'?
[05:23] <LjL> err sorry menisk. sphinx2-bin
[05:23] <mnoir> Linuturk: if so then you will need to narrow your definition of 'locked up'
[05:23] <genii> agliv5 wait, just remove the d from forced to make it only force  then try
[05:23] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody here uses vmware-player? I try to run any vmx file and it shows the license agreement, I accept it and nothing happens, back to terminal, it happens even if I run it with no parameters, any help? I really need to get vmware working >.<
[05:23] <LjL> Menisk: not sure i'd really call it "good", but it's also the only one available i'm afraid
[05:23] <mooky> DARKGuy try not launching it from a terminal
[05:23] <ziadoz> can anyone help with my wireless adapter?
[05:24] <Linuturk> mnoir: well, the machine locked up at 12:30 am this morning. that's 00:30 here. The last entry I have before that time is yesterday at 15:21
[05:24] <mnoir> Linu - no the modified datas just give you a clue as to which logs to look INSIDE of
[05:24] <Menisk> LjL, thanks. I'll try it.
[05:24] <DARKGuy> mooky: Oh, you rock, thanks XD
[05:24] <ziadoz> i got ndiswrapper and drivers installed, but the hardware still doesn't appear in the networking devices menu
[05:24] <pike_> DARKGuy: btw you can download vmware server for free and is much nicer to work with
[05:24] <DARKGuy> mooky: I wonder, why not from the terminal though >_>... it's weird but hey, works, thanks xD
[05:24] <Linuturk> the next entry I have is when I manually powered off the machine and rebooted at 11:08 AM this morning, shortly ago. mnoir
[05:24] <NetCruZa> damn... trickle doesn't work for Firefox and DownThemAll.... Maybe i can just use another Download Manager, but it needs to be compatible with Firefox? Any Ideas?
[05:24] <DARKGuy> pike_: isn't that non-free oO?
[05:24] <mooky> DARKGuy probably due to environment variables
[05:24] <Linuturk> mnoir: starting with the udev log
[05:25] <DARKGuy> mooky: I see ^^
[05:25] <agliv5> genii: tesparm appears to be ok :)
[05:25] <multidex> I'm a first time Ubuntu installer - installing on a Dell Inspiron 5160.  I want to install my Wireless network card.  How do I get Ubuntu to discover it?
[05:25] <pike_> DARKGuy: well its nonfree but it doesnt cost anything
[05:25] <mnoir> Linuturk:  no logs altered after that time?? hmm - there should atleast be a heartbeat in messages
[05:25] <frogzoo> DARKGuy: where did you get this vmx file ?
[05:25] <Linuturk> no logs are present for that gap
[05:25] <Linuturk> mnoir:
[05:25] <DARKGuy> pike_: Oh yay, I shall check it later then :P
[05:25] <DARKGuy> frogzoo: www.easyvmx.com o.o;
[05:25] <frogzoo> DARKGuy: that should work - wonder that it doesn't
[05:25] <sidolin> hey
[05:25] <mnoir> Linuturk: lines that look like:               Jan 26 11:18:21 localhost -- MARK --
[05:25] <DARKGuy> frogzoo: tried with other vmx that vmware provides in their site too, they didn't :P
[05:26] <genii> agliv5 OK, so need to restart samba then after try to reconnect from windoze box. Any name now on windoze should just be mapped to user agliv on the unix box now
[05:26] <DARKGuy> frogzoo: yeah, but running it outside the terminal (ie. menu) works :P
[05:26] <sidolin> is there already a qt4.2 and pyqt 4.2 package for ubuntu?
[05:26] <DARKGuy> Anyhow, gotta poof, thanks a ton!
[05:26] <mooky> sidolin take a look
[05:26] <agliv5> genii: restarting and testing now
[05:26] <mnoir> Linuturk: normally every half hour
[05:26] <sidolin> mooky: in feisty is only 4.1
[05:26] <mooky> sidolin so probably not
[05:26] <sidolin> not good :/
[05:26] <Linuturk> mnoir: those would be in the actual logs, right?
[05:27] <frogzoo> darkmatter: have you tried opening through the menu launcher?
[05:27] <agliv5> genii: it's working again!!! Thanks for your assistance :)
[05:27] <genii> agliv5 If later you make some share which the directory does not have write access for the unix user agliv, add into the section something like: <allowedusernamehere> = agliv
[05:28] <mnoir> Linuturk: in the log file NAMED messages
[05:28] <Linuturk> mnoir: how do i view the logs? in a text editor? can't I grep them somehow?
[05:28] <sidolin> is there any clean way to get qt 4.2?
[05:28] <genii> agliv5 where <allowedusernamehere> is a unix name which has write priveledge to the directory
[05:28] <mnoir> Linuturk: they are conventional text files - all the tools in linux that work on text files can be used
[05:29] <agliv5> genii: will do TTFN and thx again :)
[05:29] <Linuturk> lol
[05:29] <mooky> sidolin build yourself a package
[05:29] <genii> agliv5 You are welcome :)
[05:29] <Linuturk> mnoir: and what is the best way to grep those files?
[05:29] <mooky> sidolin why do you need that version ?
[05:29] <Vandalay> from the gnome menu  sytem-admin-sytemlog
[05:29] <sidolin> for development, my codevelopers have already 4.2
[05:29] <mnoir> Linuturk: the best way to grep a text file is with grep.  I do not understand the question.
[05:29] <sidolin> and it seems there are some incompatibilities
[05:29] <mooky> sidolin what platform are they developing on
[05:29] <JaXxon> Linuturk, what are you trying to find name or content
[05:30] <sidolin> gentoo and win
[05:30] <mooky> sidolin well, seems silly to be developing on bleeding edge
[05:30] <NetLarIrvine> Anyone install Ubuntu on Parallels??
[05:30] <mooky> sidolin they will have to build a qt4.2 ubuntu/debian package
[05:30] <NetLarIrvine> I have an iso , does not seem to work
[05:30] <mooky> NetLarIrvine on Parallels ?
[05:30] <mnoir> Linuturk: you are on a treasure hunt - perusing the file with less, most or a text editor would be my choice
[05:30] <sidolin> yeah, but as qt4 is pretty new we need 4.2 because there are some nice new things in it
[05:30] <NetLarIrvine> the virtual machine program for Mac
[05:31] <mooky> sidolin thats part of consideration, support/usablility for people
[05:31] <sidolin> mooky: or link static
[05:31] <Linuturk> mnoir: JaXxon instead of opening up the log in nano, how do I query the text file via cli? dmesg /var/log/messages | grep mark ?
[05:31] <mooky> sidolin they should build a package for every distro they want support/compatability
[05:31] <mooky> sidolin personal preference - link
[05:31] <sidolin> yeah, but most (almost all) of our users will use win
[05:31] <mooky> sidolin so why bother with ubuntu ?
[05:31] <Cockroach> Yo, can someone tell me how to get rid of /md1. it keeps trying to start when I boot the machine, but the disks are in md0 so it cant
[05:31] <mnoir> Linuturk: pls join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:31] <sidolin> its for fun and i dont like to use windows
[05:32] <mooky> Cockroach mdadm - delete the device
[05:32] <JaXxon> Linuturk, say again what are you looking for in the file
[05:32] <mooky> sidolin well, either build a package - or don't use it
[05:32] <sidolin> and with qt its not so a big problem to do cross-development
[05:32] <sidolin> ok
[05:32] <NetCruZa> I am going to buy an external 500 GB hard-disk soon, I need to use it on both Ubuntu and Windows. But FAT32 won't allow one file to be more than 4 GB right? What can i do then, when i need to backup my DVD's?
[05:32] <B_166-ER-X> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, I'm a new user and I can't configure properly my keyboard, backslash missingsomeone can help?
[05:32] <sidolin> NetCruZa: you can use ext2 on windows
[05:33] <roberto> jeste !!!!!!!!!!!brat
[05:33] <mooky> NetCruZa you can't - cross-writable file systems are unstable
[05:33] <sidolin> but you have to install a driver
[05:33] <mooky> sidolin its not stable on read or write
[05:33] <NetCruZa> sidolin: i can?! never head about that? Thought it was only FAT and NTFS that worked under Windows?
[05:33] <sidolin> yes, not really, but imho better than using something like ntfs-3g
[05:33] <sidolin> NetCruZa: fs-driver.org
[05:33] <mooky> NetCruZa you can use ext2 /3 but its quite unstable and can cause massive corruption and data loss
[05:34] <newusers> has anybody compiled a custom kernel in ubuntu before?
[05:34] <sidolin> but mooky is right, its not really great
[05:34] <sidolin> but for me it worked good
[05:34] <mooky> sidolin its better to accept cross-support file systems don't really work at the moment - use as a bare minimum
[05:34] <mooky> or only use on none important data
[05:34] <nikitis> Question:  When you install azureus with apt-get.  Where does it install the .bin file?
[05:34] <sidolin> or use a file-server ;)
[05:34] <mooky> sidolin thats the correct answer
[05:34] <Bnirkow> !ubotu xorg
[05:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:34] <Cockroach> mdadm - delete? can you give me the command please. I've done mdadm -v -S /dev/md1 which gets rid of it from /proc/mdstat, but it comes back when i restart
[05:34] <NetCruZa> mooky: well, i am not interested in that then :( and if i need to install drivers to every Windows computer i will be using the harddisk on, it will give too much trouble. I think i will just have to live with the 4 GB limit then?
[05:35] <sidolin> NetCruZa: yes
[05:35] <Menisk> Need backup!!! I told people in the windows channel to try ubuntu and am being roasted and being told the community is a bunch of assholes.
[05:35] <mooky> NetCruZa or just make it nttfs - then make it so only windows car write to it, but your ubntu box can read it
[05:35] <Vandalay> soetimes it can help to run azureus from the source files
[05:35] <Bnirkow> !ubotu flrgx
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flrgx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <hive> Hi all.  I am looking in my TCPDUMP because my wireless card seems to be flashing alot, and I am seeing alot of messages like:  10:52:29.088666 IP by1msg5176513.phx.gbl.msnp > 192.168.0.2.49165: P 3303:3311(8) ack 265 win 64164 <nop,nop,timestamp 46008748 25863001> .. Can anyone tell me what this is please
[05:35] <Bnirkow> !ubotu fglrx
[05:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <JohnnyX_> is there a way i could install gentoo from ubuntu?
[05:36] <sidolin> yes
[05:36] <mooky> JohnnyX_ no
[05:36] <hive> lol
[05:36] <NetCruZa> mooky: I have to write to it with Ubuntu, so that won't be a working solution... And writing to NTFS is too dangerous right?
[05:36] <mooky> you can't install any os from another os unless its into a virtual machine
[05:36] <roberto> Haw iptables  off!!!!!!!!
[05:36] <mack75> Hi every body, in the last days I upgrade my dapper to edgy, but now I've a problem with NFS resources the kernel error key is nfs_readpage_truncate_uninitialised_page
[05:36] <Vandalay> with ntfs-3g writing to ntfs works good for me
[05:36] <mooky> NetCruZa yup - 4GB limit and fat32 for yyou
[05:36] <sidolin> mooky: you can install gentoo from ubuntu
[05:36] <mooky> Vandalay its unstable
[05:36] <JohnnyX_> i have two hd's one 40 with ubuntu and one 75g thats empty
[05:36] <Vandalay> ok
[05:36] <sidolin> mount the partition, download a stage and portage
[05:37] <mack75> Can some one help me please?
[05:37] <JohnnyX_> can i move my installation from the 40g to the 75g ?
[05:37] <Cockroach> no-one know about mdadm ??
[05:37] <mooky> sidolin yes, that is true using it as "host" sdistro for stage one
[05:37] <frogzoo> mack75: we don't know if we can help you until you say what your problem is
[05:37] <mooky> Cockroach yes, whats up
[05:37] <JaXxon>  mack75, what is the problem
[05:37] <mack75> [05:37] <mack75> Hi every body, in the last days I upgrade my dapper to edgy, but now I've a problem with NFS resources the kernel error key is nfs_readpage_truncate_uninitialised_page
[05:37] <Cockroach> trying to delete md1 - I've done mdadm -v -S /dev/md1 which gets rid of it from /proc/mdstat, but it comes back when i restart
[05:37] <Julle> pike_ hi, i've tried Damn Small Linux but i dont think that apt-get is on the live cd.. is there any way that i could install apt-get function on DSL ?
[05:38] <mooky> Cockroach thats note deleting the package
[05:38] <mooky> oops array
[05:38] <NetCruZa> mooky: Okay, i will just have to split my files then :P
[05:38] <Cockroach> I want to keep md0
[05:38] <multidex> I'm a first time Ubuntu installer - installing on a Dell Inspiron 5160.  I want to install my Wireless network card.  How do I get Ubuntu to discover it?
[05:38] <JaXxon> mack75 i don't know much about nfs
[05:38] <mooky> Cockroach what do you want to do - remove md1 ?
[05:38] <Cockroach> yes
[05:38] <mack75> Hi every body, in the last days I upgrade my dapper to edgy, but now I've a problem with NFS resources the kernel error key is nfs_readpage_truncate_uninitialised_page
[05:38] <mack75> Can someone help me please
[05:38] <B_166-ER-X> Anyone may help about my keyboard laptop configuration, I'm kind of lost
[05:38] <frogzoo> !wifi | multidex
[05:38] <mooky> Cockroach hang on
[05:38] <ubotu> multidex: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:39] <mooky> mack75 be quite - you've asked about 4 times already
[05:39] <RadicalDreamer> Strange. I have only one Ethernet card, why does /etc/network/interfaces have eth0, eth1, eth2, and ath0?
[05:39] <multidex> thank you frogzoo
[05:39] <frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: sys -> prefs -> keyboard
[05:39] <B_166-ER-X> frogzoo>Haven't found the good one, seem unavailable
[05:40] <karolinka> strzaa brat
[05:40] <mack75> B_166-ER-X what is the problem with your keyboard config?
[05:40] <B_166-ER-X> Backslash missing and arobas
[05:40] <roberto> bhjhgkulgiu
[05:40] <mack75> Ok, where are you fron?
[05:41] <mack75> from?
[05:41] <mack75> B_166-ER-X
[05:41] <B_166-ER-X> Canada, french langage
[05:41] <mack75> Ok
[05:42] <Ted_> has anyone had problems with Openoffice or amarok in edgy?
[05:42] <JDAN_PL> Hi everybody. You are my last chance. I have GC89 card which I use to connect my notebook to Internet via GSM. Unfortunately Ubunto Edgy don't discovery it and get message "02:00.1 Serial controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4344 (rev 03)". It seem that every needed modules are accesable. Any idea?
[05:42] <karolinka> szukae Linux-a innego
[05:42] <frogzoo> Ted_: no & no
[05:42] <mooky> Cockroach was it you who wanted mdadm help ?
[05:42] <Ted_> frogzoo, thanks
[05:42] <roberto> nie!!!
[05:42] <Cockroach> yes
[05:42] <karolinka> czemu nie?!!!
[05:42] <mooky> Cockroach ok - mdadm --manage /dev/md1 stop
[05:42] <roberto> ubuntu jeden z najleprzych
[05:43] <karolinka> taaaaa
[05:43] <mack75> B_166-ER-X:: Sys>pref > Keyboard
[05:43] <roberto> inne to lipa
[05:43] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: Distribution
[05:43] <Vandalay> !cccp
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cccp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <karolinka> powaga, gdzie czytae
[05:43] <roberto> wszdzie
[05:43] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: Add and Choose France -> Alternative
[05:43] <roberto> jest jeszcze kubuntu
[05:43] <karolinka> jaja se robisz
[05:43] <mooky> Cockroach done ?
[05:44] <karolinka> aale on chyba bardziej biurowy?
[05:44] <LjL> !pl
[05:44] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:44] <Vandalay> -)
[05:44] <LjL> !english
[05:44] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:44] <Cockroach> mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md1
already try, still don'T work
[05:45] <mooky> Cockroach Cockroach mdadm --detail /dev/md1
[05:45] <Cockroach> mdadm: md device /dev/md1 does not appear to be active.
[05:45] <roberto> qbittorrencie pisze e s zablokowane poczenia przychodzce /wszystkie sbiurowe
[05:45] <Poromenos> how do i install the webcore fonts?
[05:45] <mooky> Cockroach great
[05:45] <mooky> Cockroach are there any disks still assigned to it ?
I've tryed most of these alternative and haven't found the good one
[05:45] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: mmmh, try with the other distribution, without dead keys
[05:45] <Cockroach> # cat /proc/mdstat
[05:45] <Cockroach> Personalities : [raid5]  [raid4] 
[05:45] <Cockroach> md1 : inactive sdb[1]  sdc[3] 
[05:45] <Cockroach>       976772864 blocks super non-persistent
[05:45] <Cockroach> 
[05:45] <Cockroach> md0 : active raid5 sda1[0]  sdh1[7]  sdg1[6]  sdf1[5]  sde1[4]  sdd1[3]  sdc1[2]  sdb1[1] 
[05:45] <Cockroach>       3417955968 blocks level 5, 128k chunk, algorithm 2 [8/8]  [UUUUUUUU] 
[05:45] <B_166-ER-X> same
[05:46] <LjL> !paste Cockroach
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste Cockroach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <mooky> Cockroach for future reference use the paste bin
[05:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Cockroach about paste | Cockroach, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:46] <karolinka> brat msimy ucieka bo nas wywal, tu po angielsku trzeba nawija
[05:46] <genii> AAAAAHHHHHHh the scrolllll!
[05:46] <genii> LOL
[05:46] <roberto> prawy gurny rg w qbittorrencie
[05:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell karolinka about pl | karolinka, see the private message from Ubotu
Anyways, france is in aezrty, I wan't qwerty
[05:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell roberto about pl | roberto, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:46] <mooky> Cockroach mdadm --manage /dev/md1 --remove /dev/sdc1 (or what ever devices are left in the array)
[05:46] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: In the Keyboard model what you choose?
[05:46] <Poromenos> How do i install webcore fonts?
[05:47] <mack75> ahh!
[05:47] <frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: tried the canada layouts?
[05:47] <karolinka> whay?
[05:48] <LjL> karolinka: this channel is English only
[05:48] <Cockroach> nope: mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md1
[05:48] <karolinka> ok
[05:48] <karolinka> sorry
[05:48] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: Open a Terminal please
I've took Microsoft natural, but on windows, they tell me I have a mircrosoft natural...sp2...
[05:48] <Vandalay> there are rpm's for it but you are not helped w that..
[05:48] <roberto> plees your help! Haw off firewall  this ubuntu
yeah and then?
[05:48] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: sudo kbd-config
[05:48] <mooky> Cockroach thats very strange - you have to have the array disabled to remove the devices, it should be able to  remove the two devices left over
[05:48] <LjL> roberto: you want a firewall?
[05:49] <roberto> firewall off yes
[05:49] <mooky> roberto just visit the polish channel
[05:49] <naknomik> Has anybody tried installing bacula 2.0 on ubuntu?
[05:49] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: choose the option choose keyboard map from a list
[05:49] <LjL> roberto: you want a firewall, or you want to *disable* a firewall? ("off")
[05:49] <capt-rogers> looking for users/volunteers to complete a survey i made, about open source in the workplace. i have 14 completed surveys..looking to get to 100...here be my url.  http://vger1.dyndns.org/ucc/survey.php?sid=28     (its a safe questionnaire. i am only collecting info about open souce use in the workplace.) thanks in advance!
[05:49] <LjL> roberto: there is no firewall enabled in Ubuntu
[05:49] <genii> LjL I'm pretty sure he wants to turn one off
[05:49] <roberto> yes
[05:50] <mooky> capt-rogers this is an ubuntu support channel, please take it to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:50] <roberto> but haw
[05:50] <LjL> roberto, it is already off
[05:50] <LjL> roberto: Ubuntu has no firewall, by default
[05:50] <apokryphos> !firewall
[05:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
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[05:51] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: try with sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[05:51] <roberto> iptables not working!! iptables bock torrents
[05:51] <mooky> roberto visit the ubuntu channel that speaks your language and discuss it
[05:51] <frogzoo> roberto: sudo iptables -L -v
[05:51] <LjL> roberto: your router/modem blocks torrents, not iptables
[05:51] <Vandalay> in bittorrentclient ther is a port specifoed
[05:51] <mack75> roberto: you have iptables installed on your machine?
[05:51] <Cockroach> mdstat says it's inactive. that's all I can tell you. I've never (that I recall) mounted md1. well i might have done. but it's not in fstab
[05:51] <Vandalay> open that port in iptables
[05:51] <naknomik> Anybody using bacula on ubuntu?
[05:52] <LjL> mack75: iptables is installed by default
[05:52] <mooky> Cockroach it should be inactive as you disable it before
not installed???
[05:52] <mooky> Cockroach you don't have to have mounted it but mdadm --details /dev/md1 shows you have 2 disks assigned to that array
[05:52] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: what's not installed?
[05:52] <mooky> Cockroach  you need to remove those two devices
[05:52] <roberto> iptables -L -v     Error inserting x_tables
alternative way: dpkg-deb --info
[05:53] <Vandalay> use firestarter saves you headache
[05:53] <LjL> roberto: you need sudo
[05:53] <LjL> roberto: but i am sure that iptables is not the problem
[05:53] <Cockroach> when I try to remove it, it says "mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md1"
[05:53] <nixnoob> how to change order of grub entries?
[05:53] <roberto> wchat is this sudo
or dpkg-deb --contents
[05:53] <frogzoo> roberto: that's odd...
[05:53] <mooky> Cockroach thats what surprising me
[05:53] <LjL> roberto: sudo is the command to be root. you know what root is?
[05:53] <hexidigital> nixnoob:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:53] <mooky> nixnoob edit /boor/grub/menu.lst
[05:53] <nixnoob> ty
[05:54] <Stormx2> Is there some problem with ubuntu's topdir variable?
[05:54] <thewall83> Hi all!
[05:54] <LjL> roberto: try "sudo iptables -L -v" if you want
[05:54] <mooky> Stormx2 explain
[05:54] <Vandalay> sudo specifies what "normal" users can execute root commands
[05:54] <Vandalay> such as opening ports in firewall
any other ideas?
[05:54] <Stormx2> mooky: The people in #audacious (media player) are telling me ubuntu's topdir variable is broken
[05:54] <mack75> [05:54] <mack75> Hi every body, in the last days I upgrade my dapper to edgy, but now I've a problem with NFS resources the kernel error key is nfs_readpage_truncate_uninitialised_page
[05:54] <mack75> Someone has a similar problem?
[05:54] <mack75> Can someone help me?
[05:54] <mack75> <<<<<<<<<[05:55] <roberto> sudo iptables -L -v working  but what naw
[05:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell mack75 about paste | mack75, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:55] <vnese> hello, how can i see how many ports that my pc open ?
[05:55] <mooky> Stormx2 topdir isn't anything to do with ubuntu - its a variable set by the application
[05:55] <frogzoo> mack75: please don't spam
[05:55] <Stormx2> mack75: Please don't do that again..
[05:55] <mooky> frogzoo he's done it about 4 times now
[05:55] <thewall83> I would like to install an nvidia driver 96xx on my machine where I have two kernel...one vanilla and one default by ubuntu
[05:56] <Vandalay> isnt that "netstat"
[05:56] <Cockroach> mooky: so, got any other ideas?
[05:56] <LjL> Ubotu, tell mack75 about attitude | mack75, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:56] <Vandalay> or visit grc.com
[05:56] <mack75> vnese: run "netstat -ntpel" from a terminal
[05:56] <mooky> Cockroach thats a tough one as I can't tell why your machine is behaving
[05:56] <mooky> vnese its just "netstat -a | grep LIST"
[05:56] <brianski> mack75, upgrading from dapper to ubuntu is perilous and not recommended
[05:56] <mooky> vnese shows you everything its listening on
[05:56] <brianski> back up the files you care about and re-install
[05:56] <LjL> brianski: ahum?
[05:56] <LjL> "from dapper to ubuntu"?
[05:56] <roberto> sudo iptables -L -v    input/forward/output accept all
[05:56] <thewall83> but the problem is that i can install it only over one of the two kernel, anyone can help me?
[05:57] <brianski> err
[05:57] <Cockroach> mooky, The install is only a few days old?
[05:57] <brianski> sorry from dapper to edgy :)
[05:57] <LjL> and upgrading from dapper to edgy is not not recommended
[05:57] <mooky> Cockroach shouldn't matter, somethings being strange
[05:57] <Hakker> I know
[05:57] <mooky> Cockroach as a long shot - try re-enabling the array and removing the disks - that shouldn't work but, hey, try it
[05:57] <Hakker> bah wrong channel
[05:57] <frogzoo> roberto: ok, so your iptables rules are empty - meaning that is not the problem, look elsewhere
[05:57] <brianski> LjL, oh? i've heard a lot of folks say not to do it
[05:57] <brianski> i haven't really investigated it tho so i might be spreading fud
[05:57] <Cockroach> commands?
[05:57] <mooky> Cockroach mdadm --help will give you a list
[05:58] <mack75> so? I need reinstall ?
[05:58] <LjL> brianski: some folks have had problems, that's true. mostly due to having third-party repositories enabled. however, that's far from not being recommended -- if it weren't recommended, we wouldn't have wiki pages, bot factoids and programs to do it
[05:58] <mack75> LjL: so? I need reinstall ?
[05:58] <LjL> brianski: you could say something like "i know that some people have had problems with upgrading, and sometimes it's suggested that a fresh reinstall is better". at least that doesn't spread FUD ;)
[05:59] <tyler_> how do i make root able to use xpdf?
[05:59] <LjL> mack75: you want to upgrade?
[05:59] <tyler_> how do i make root able to use xpdf?
[05:59] <frogzoo> tyler_: unnecessary
[05:59] <mack75> LjL: I've upgrade
[05:59] <battlesquid> how do i get java to work in firefox?
[05:59] <mack75> LjL: yet
[05:59] <frogzoo> !java | battlesquid
[05:59] <ubotu> battlesquid: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:00] <LjL> mack75: NFS? i don't know.
[06:00] <mack75> battlesquid:  check for plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:00] <Vandalay> put a link to java in mozilla/plugind dir
[06:00] <roberto> frogzoo thanks!!   download speed 10kb/s I must moree!! i heve to 1024kb/s
[06:00] <LjL> roberto, that is not a problem with ubuntu
[06:01] <roberto> Qbittorrent ?
[06:01] <battlesquid> mack75, i think i need to install sun-java5-jre only?
[06:01] <LjL> roberto, it is a problem with your modem or with your connection
[06:01] <mooky> roberto could be your host, your networ, your isp, your seeders, your seeders isp, your router etc
[06:01] <testtest> okay weird problem - i downloaded and burned ubuntu 6.10 and it starts on all the computers i have except the one i want to install to.
[06:01] <Vandalay> the fedora & mb gentoo forums have nice howto's mb it will work on ubunto w a little tweaking
[06:01] <testtest> booting from cd fails
[06:02] <LjL> testtest: fails like what?
[06:02] <mack75> LjL: yes, my files are in other machine, and I'm working from other, then I mount an NFS unit and create a symbolic link to my dir
[06:02] <testtest> and loading it in windows says start2.exe fials
[06:02] <roberto> haw unblocked ports 6881 - 6889
[06:02] <testtest> it gives me a cd error - reboot prompt
[06:02] <LjL> testtest: sounds like a bad CD drive, can't you mount another?
[06:02] <mooky> roberto /join #iptables for an iptables lesson
[06:02] <testtest> its a laptop =-\
[06:02] <testtest> but yea thats what it sounded like to me as well
[06:02] <battlesquid> frogzoo, mack75 : it appears i have installed sun-java5-jre ...
[06:02] <vnese> hello , i have problem with apache2 , my friends cant see my home server, it says connection time out
[06:03] <mooky> vnese something is blcoking it
[06:03] <mooky> or its not listening
[06:03] <LjL> testtest: tough luck then. you might try installing from NFS and that sort of difficult stuff
[06:03] <mooky> or its the wrong IP
[06:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell testtest about install | testtest, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:03] <testtest> but i figure ill try an older ubuntu burned from a different drive?
[06:03] <mack75> battlesquid: if you open a firefox window
[06:03] <vnese> mooky: but when i type my IP , it works properly
[06:03] <mack75> battlesquid: and load "about:plugin", what happen?
[06:03] <testtest> yea i know nothing about that. but thanks LjL, ill read the im
[06:03] <LjL> testtest: well, why older? but yes, you can try that if you have CDs to spare. i also suggest that you try this cd instead of the full one
[06:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell testteest about minimal | testteest, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:03] <mooky> vnese what is your ip
[06:03] <battlesquid> mack75, when i ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ no java plugin is there
[06:03] <mack75> battlesquid: "about: plugin" without space
[06:04] <vnese> mooky: 212.149.207.167
[06:04] <tyler_>  how can i use xpdf as root? how can i use xpdf as root?
[06:04] <testtest> well i dunno, i figured maybe a version earlier than 6.10 might have a double troubleshooting effect
[06:04] <testtest> new drive AND different version
[06:04] <testtest> 2 birds, one stone?
[06:04] <boxubi> can anyone identify this machine? http://d.im.craigslist.org/C4/U8/etb1lxuh79BEqp31sCcuEogDUhBU.jpg
[06:04] <mooky> vnese ok - so thats public, thats great. So either something is blocking it at your end or his end -OR your web server is not listening on that address
[06:04] <LjL> testtest: it's perhaps also possible to install from USB drives, somehow, but i don't really know
[06:04] <boxubi> is it a dell?
[06:04] <vnese> mooky: looks like what u see is a gateway
[06:04] <Vandalay> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:04] <mooky> boxubi this is ubuntu support
[06:04] <battlesquid> mack75, what do you mean load about:plugin ?
[06:04] <mooky> vnese doubtul
[06:04] <mack75> battlesquid: have you a /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file?
[06:05] <fixer> hello everybody :)
[06:05] <LjL> testtest: well, there is no reason really to suspect that it's a problem with Edgy... but anyway, Dapper is supported for longer, and IMHO it also tends to be more stable, so you could try Dapper for sure if you like
[06:05] <cmh> i got beryl to run fine on ubuntu 6.10, only problem i'm having is that every time at login the gnome-panel freezes and i have to kill it in the terminal, anyone have any suggestions?
[06:05] <mooky> cmh /join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:05] <LjL> Ubotu, tell testtest about minimal | testtest, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:05] <mack75> battlesquid:  open a new firefox tab or window and write in the address bar "about: plugin" and enter
[06:05] <LjL> testtest: (sorry, i got your nickname wrong before)
[06:05] <testtest> yea im clicking the links
[06:06] <testtest> no problem dude youve been insanely nice and helpful
[06:06] <student_> czesc
[06:06] <testtest> im gonna try some stuff
[06:06] <testtest> thanks
[06:06] <battlesquid> mack75, no i don't, but i have "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/" directory - there's no plugin dir in there
[06:06] <vnese> mooky:  i dont know what happens , it used to work
[06:06] <facugaich> What FTP client do you recommend?
[06:06] <mooky> vnese well, something changed either blocking it at your end or his
[06:06] <vnese> facugaich: gFTp
[06:06] <LjL> !best | facugaich
[06:06] <ubotu> facugaich: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:06] <battlesquid> mack75, the url is not valid
[06:06] <mooky> vnese or apache isn't running
[06:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell facugaich about ftp | facugaich, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:07] <frogzoo> cmh: adding elevator=cfq to kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst might help
[06:07] <vnese> mooky: when i typed netstat I dont see my apache service
[06:07] <mack75> battlesquid: sorry, the correct is "about: plugins"
[06:07] <facugaich> LjL: Well, I didn't ask for "the best", I just wanted to see some recommendations
[06:07] <mooky> vnese do you see http or port 80 listening
[06:07] <tyler_> ash: sux: command not found
[06:07] <Aphros> hi
[06:08] <Demoncrat> I use gFTP most of the time
[06:08] <LjL> facugaich: well, the main problem is that there is a lot of people in this channel, and if everyone gave recommandations, it would become a huge flood
[06:08] <mack75> B_166-ER-X: what's up?
[06:08] <battlesquid> mack75, i still get invalid url, however when using quotes i am directed to google search for "about: plugins"
[06:08] <mack75> without quotes
[06:08] <mack75> battlesquid: without quotes
[06:09] <Aphros> does anybody knows if there's a casper manual/howtos?
[06:09] <stdin> battlesquid: just enter: about:plugins
[06:09] <W^^harddd^^> hi ! how can i configure U.S Robotics 56K on Ubuntu .
[06:09] <W^^harddd^^> any website link ?
[06:09] <fox911> facugaich ; http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/
[06:09] <Demoncrat> type "about:plugins" without quotes (and no spaces)
[06:09] <student_> czec co tam sycha
[06:09] <fox911> google ...
[06:09] <mnoir> !cz | student_
[06:09] <ubotu> student_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:09] <student_> jestem natalia
[06:10] <W^^harddd^^> i did that on google
[06:10] <battlesquid> mack75, stdin : i did and i got this alert -> The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded
[06:10] <frogzoo> W^^harddd^^: is that an external serial modem?
[06:10] <mack75> battlesquid:  "about: plugins" whitout space and quotes
[06:10] <W^^harddd^^> yes
[06:10] <zer0z> anyone have any idea why running ubuntu from the cd detects my wireless card (live cd) but when installing from alternate cd the wireless card no longer is detected??
[06:11] <mzuverink> Is there a boot option for apm as there is for acpi(noacpi)?
[06:11] <W^^harddd^^> i installed ubuntu edgy n problem is that i cannot connect to internet from it n dont have broadband or any internet conection
[06:11] <frogzoo> W^^harddd^^: have you tried configuring it through the gui?
[06:11] <battlesquid> mack75, finally now it worked
[06:11] <W^^harddd^^> so that i can update it
[06:11] <ndee> hello there, when I boot my computer with the ubuntu 6.10 desktop CD, after a couple seconds, the screen gets totally scrambled. I have a Nvidia 7600GT with an athlon x2 3800+ and a MSI motherboard
[06:11] <mack75> battlesquid: Can you see any Java message in these page?
[06:12] <battlesquid> mack75, no, it's not listed
[06:12] <ndee> I also tried the safe graphics installation but the same thing happened, anything ever heard of that?
[06:12] <ndee> s/anything/anyone
[06:12] <Aphros> zeroz different casper modules i'm trying to understad how casper works, but it's not that easy
[06:13] <zer0z> Aphros linux for 'human beings' ??
[06:13] <zer0z> :P
[06:13] <zer0z> what the hell is casper?
[06:13] <W^^harddd^^> frogzoo: yes i did that with Administration -> Networking etc
[06:13] <mack75> battlesquid: open a terminal and run: dpkg -l *sun*
[06:13] <Aphros> yeah,I know...
[06:13] <W^^harddd^^> but its not working
[06:14] <W^^harddd^^> i cannot activate it
[06:14] <|Jason8|> Gah.  Where can I find the TCP/IP settings in Ubuntu?  I had them up five minutes ago... but once again, they're lost.  Running 5.10
[06:14] <mack75> battlesquid: and check if any line starts with "ii  sun-java5-jre"
[06:14] <mzuverink> Is it apm=off?
[06:14] <leobloo2> people which pcmcia card ethernet is more compatible between a netgear 32bit (code: FA511SE) and a D-link 32bit (DFE-690TXD)? I know it's a weird questions but I'd like to gain some info before buying
[06:14] <MONICA> PLEASE CLICK HERE http://www.donkeymails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=confucio
[06:14] <MONICA> http://www.donkeymails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=confucio
[06:14] <alexc1990> whitch is a italian ubuntu's channel?
[06:14] <stdin> !it
[06:14] <MONICA> http://www.donkeymails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=confucio
[06:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:14] <battlesquid> mack75, yes -> ii  sun-java5-jre                                         1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[06:14] <Desmaano> welcome
[06:14] <MONICA> HI ALL
[06:15] <bamtol> hi
[06:15] <stdin> !caps | MONICA
[06:15] <ubotu> MONICA: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:15] <frogzoo> !hardware | leobloo2
[06:15] <ubotu> leobloo2: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:15] <Cockroach> mooky (re mdadm) I can't get it to do anything because it doesn't think md1 exists, yet it appears on mdstat.
[06:15] <leobloo2> thanksa lot frogzoo
[06:15] <Aphros> alexc1990 ubuntu-it
[06:15] <alexc1990> ok
[06:15] <zer0z> what does it mean when a wireless card is supposed to work out of the box but doesn't??
[06:15] <zer0z> yuck
[06:15] <alexc1990> thanks!!!
[06:15] <Desmaano> Question: Can an old iMac G3 communicate with Ubuntu operated file-server?
[06:16] <Aphros> see you there alex
[06:16] <frogzoo> W^^harddd^^: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[06:16] <mack75> battlesquid: and a line starting with "ii sun-java5-plugin"
[06:16] <W^^harddd^^> k . let me check
[06:16] <arsentop> hah
[06:17] <Aphros> so...
[06:17] <MONICA> this is  a very good website ....if u want to visit it... pls.... http://www.donkeymails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=confucio
[06:17] <MONICA> http://www.donkeymails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=confucio
[06:17] <battlesquid> mack75, no -> un  sun-java5-plugin
[06:17] <mack75> OK
[06:17] <fishbot-> hello lads
[06:17] <NetLarIrvine> I am installing Kubuntu, but seems to be stuck on "32gnmore_power_manager"
[06:17] <fishbot-> i need help with configuring beryl
[06:17] <NetLarIrvine> Can I get out of this?
[06:17] <battlesquid> !spam | MONICA
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <|Jason8|> Gah.  Where can I find the TCP/IP settings in Ubuntu?  I had them up five minutes ago... but once again, they're lost.  Running 5.10
[06:18] <mack75> battlesquid: run: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[06:18] <mack75> battlesquid: and restart firefox (close and open again jeje)
[06:18] <mack75> battlesquid: thats all
[06:18] <|Jason8|> !tcp
[06:18] <ys76> get yourself?
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <mack75> battlesquid see u later
[06:18] <Aphros> zeroz i installed casper with synaptics it's the "program" that autoconfigures stuff in the live cds
[06:18] <fishbot-> can someone help me with beryl?
[06:18] <battlesquid> mack75, will do, thank you!
[06:19] <Pirate-king> does music player play mp3?
[06:19] <fishbot-> ive installed it but i dunno how to make some of the visual effects although i have serched in the mamnger
[06:19] <HymnToLife> !mp3 | Pirate-king
[06:19] <ubotu> Pirate-king: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:19] <|Jason8|> Pirate-king, download xmms
[06:19] <battlesquid> E: Package sun-java5-plugin has no installation candidate
[06:20] <frogzoo> !audacious | Pirate-king
[06:20] <ubotu> Pirate-king: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[06:20] <Aphros> but once you install it you have to fix your initrd settings..
[06:20] <Pirate-king> but I want to transfer also to an ipod
[06:20] <frogzoo> Pirate-king: amarok
[06:20] <pbureau> Pirate-king - amarok does that
[06:21] <Desmaano> Question: Does an Imac G3 can communicate with an Ubuntu operated File-server??
[06:21] <frogzoo> fishbot-: beryl settings manager - under animation
[06:21] <Pirate-king> doesn't music player?
[06:22] <zer0z> what's the diff b/t ethernet and network controller?
[06:22] <Desmaano> ok have to go, I'll be back later :)
[06:23] <pbureau> Pirate-king - you listening to people answering you... go get amarok you will be able to play MP3's and transfer to ipod
[06:23] <W^^harddd^^> frogzoo: lspci command dont show me any modem
[06:24] <W^^harddd^^> is that ok ?
[06:24] <frogzoo> W^^harddd^^: as it's a serial modem, lspci won't find it
[06:24] <W^^harddd^^> ok
[06:25] <frogzoo> W^^harddd^^: likely it's on /dev/ttyS0
[06:25] <W^^harddd^^> yes
[06:25] <fixer> Ubuntu is the best OS, i can do all the things i do in windows :)
[06:25] <W^^harddd^^> i think i did it on /dev/modem
[06:26] <AnkleBiter> hello, i just downloaded a new skin for ubuntu but it doesnt change the open application bars so theyre white with white text, anyone know how i change this
[06:26] <Aphros> fixer: how do you edit a movie with three overlayS?
[06:26] <MystaMax> hello, im trying to exclude a directory when running tar on my home folder, but im not sure how?
[06:27] <Julle> what is the command to display the network interfaces on the computer with ip adress information?
[06:27] <gabrieldain> Hey. Anybody know if the memtest from the 64-bit liveCDs work in 32-bit computers?
[06:27] <MystaMax> Julle, u talking about ifconfig?
[06:28] <|Jason8|> what's the best way to manage my passwords? i have tons of passwords for web sites and stuff and i want to make each password unique and complicated but that makes it impossible to memorize so i need a way to store the passwords safely, i guess using some encrypted password database, but it has to be portable between operating systems (not linux only). know of anything?
[06:28] <Julle> MystaMax yeah thats it, thank u
[06:28] <gabrieldain> |Jason8|, KDE got something like it, hold it
[06:28] <MystaMax> no prob
[06:28] <|Jason8|> gabrieldain, it'll work in windows, too?
[06:28] <fishbot-> can someone help me to configure beryl?
[06:29] <incep> If I wanted a nice RSS-reader, what would you recommend? :)
[06:29] <incep> fishbot- I think I can.
[06:29] <incep> PM. :)
[06:29] <gabrieldain> |Jason8|, the name is KDE Wallet
[06:29] <fishbot-> thanks you lad
[06:29] <gabrieldain> |Jason8|, nope
[06:29] <|Jason8|> oh.
[06:29] <MystaMax> |Jason8|, I've yet to find one that works on both
[06:29] <|Jason8|> bummer.
[06:29] <MystaMax> i use keypass on windows
[06:29] <incep> I want a desktop rss-reader, the thing Vista has is a pretty good example.
[06:29] <fishbot-> this client is annoying meh
[06:29] <fishbot-> how do i pm u on this client?
[06:29] <Dot-Communist> Hi, i have an small usb thumb drive sitting around and i was wondering if there is any aplication i can load onto it that would work as a sort of key to get into my comp
[06:29] <incep>  /msg
[06:31] <Dot-Communist> ???
[06:32] <Dot-Communist> any life out ther
[06:32] <bauer77> hello Dot, what do you  need a key for to get into your comptuer?
[06:32] <fishbot-> incep can you answer me plz? :D
[06:32] <Dot-Communist> idk just thought it be kinda cool
[06:32] <bauer77> he did fishbot
[06:33] <fishbot-> where?
[06:33] <ad_> #ubuntu
[06:33] <Dot-Communist> like no one can log in if its not in the port
[06:33] <ad_> !restricted
[06:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:33] <frogzoo> Dot-Communist: encrypted file system, save the key on the usb
[06:33] <bauer77> "/msg" name without the quotes
[06:33] <Dot-Communist> how in the hell do i do that :(
[06:34] <incep> fishbot-, which client are you running?
[06:34] <bauer77> well dont, nobody can log in without a password (key) either
[06:34] <incep> Uninstall it and get XChat.
[06:34] <Dot-Communist> my bro know my passwork
[06:34] <Dot-Communist> word
[06:34] <bauer77> so change it
[06:34] <Dot-Communist> i dun wanna
[06:34] <Dot-Communist> il forget it D:
[06:34] <fishbot-> i do have xchat
[06:34] <bauer77> cant help ya then
[06:34] <incep> Then right-click my name and start message dialogue.
[06:35] <Dimensions> Hiya i have my RH crashed i get into grub Terminal when i do root (hd and press tab it shows me all partitions with its numbers ... i can see two fat partitions and two unknown i assume they are linux ... what should i do
[06:35] <zm634> hey guys, quick question, how do I list connections to this machine, ie, through ssh?
[06:35] <jrib> zm634: 'w', or 'who'
[06:36] <jrib> zm634: well that lists logins at least including where they are logged in from
[06:36] <bauer77> netstat -a
[06:36] <bauer77> maybe is what your looking for?
[06:37] <fishbot-> incep plz notice my dialog
[06:37] <incep> I can't register any whispers from you.
[06:37] <bauer77> just type it in the room
[06:37] <MystaMax> hello, im trying to exclude a directory when running tar on my home folder, but im not sure how?
[06:37] <zm634> bauer77: sorta, but I need their ips, i'll try it out
[06:37] <fishbot-> why is that?
[06:38] <incep> Anyway, if you want help for beryl, follow the ubuntuguide.org section of it. I followed it and it worked great and almost effortless on my Nvidia GPU.
[06:38] <fishbot-> o
[06:38] <fishbot-> ive got beryl working
[06:38] <mnoir> MystaMax: type 'man tar'  and look for doc on the exclude option
[06:38] <fishbot-> just wanted to know how to config it
[06:38] <incep> Oh.. Err, run it and right-click the diamond? ;)
[06:38] <fishbot-> no i mean
[06:38] <fishbot-> how to config it
[06:39] <fishbot-> for example ive serched the cubes
[06:39] <fishbot-> and its marked v
[06:39] <fishbot-> but it wont make me cubes :S
[06:39] <incep> I haven't had time to configure it alot myself either, time's been tight.
[06:39] <fishbot-> oki =] 
[06:39] <incep> Be right back, dinner time. I'll shout when I'm back.
[06:39] <fishbot-> thank you lad
[06:39] <fishbot-> Bona peti
[06:40] <zm634> allrigtht, here'she rano one, how do i clear history?  as in, the stuff returned by the command "history"?
[06:40] <zm634> *here's another one
[06:40] <Dot-Communist> Is there Any way to password protect a usb drive thru ubuntu?
[06:40] <Dot-Communist> like noone can open the drive without a pass
[06:40] <mooky> zm634 .sh_hisotry
[06:40] <|Jason8||> Hey guys, where can I find/modify the TCP/IP settings in ubuntu?
[06:40] <mooky> .sh_history
[06:41] <mooky> |Jason8|| which settings
[06:41] <mooky> Dot-Communist file system permissions ?
[06:41] <mooky> Dot-Communist envrypt the file system
[06:41] <zm634> mooky: um, how does that work?  (btw, i'm actually on OSX)
[06:41] <Dot-Communist> How do i do that Dx
[06:41] <fishbot-> ive download build-essential throw apt-get install and i cant seem to find it anywhere :S
[06:41] <mjr> Dot-Communist, yes. For instance, see the encfs package (other options exist too, that's maybe one of the easiest, though it does leak information on how many and how large files you have there to even people without the pw)
[06:41] <mooky> zm634 you empty the contents of ~/.sh_history
[06:41] <|Jason8||> I want to configure it to connect to the internet through the family computer, setup for ICS.
[06:41] <fishbot-> where does it install this?
[06:41] <|Jason8||> I can change the settings, just need to know where the settings are.
[06:41] <mooky> |Jason8|| ues the network configuration gui
[06:42] <fishbot-> ive download build-essential throw apt-get install and i cant seem to find it anywhere :S
[06:42] <fishbot-> where does it install this?
[06:42] <fishbot-> threw-*
[06:42] <mooky> fishbot- which are you looking for
[06:42] <W^^harddd^^> hi again
[06:43] <darrell> need help with the window manager in ubuntu 6.10
[06:43] <fishbot-> ive searched on "search files"
[06:43] <W^^harddd^^> i dont remember to whom i was talking about my modem problem
[06:43] <mooky>  fishbot- which files are yo ulooking for
[06:43] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[06:43] <fishbot-> for the software itself
[06:43] <mrpurpl1> :-[ there is someone with two screen ? i need an help
[06:43] <W^^harddd^^> i did this again . but still modem not working
[06:43] <mooky> fishbot- which software ?
[06:43] <fishbot-> build-essential
[06:43] <mooky> mrpurpl1 whats up
[06:43] <S> anyideas how to change my user password and root password at the same time?
[06:43] <mrpurpl1> hi mook
[06:43] <mooky> fishbot- thats not software, thats a collection of software
[06:43] <mooky> S you don't
[06:43] <darrell> window manager/ anybody
[06:43] <mooky> mrpurpl1 hi
[06:44] <fishbot-> and where can i find them?
[06:44] <S> i cant change my pass?
[06:44] <mooky> darrell what about it? you have to ask a question to get an answer
[06:44] <mrpurpl1> mooky i have two screen but one is not working ..
[06:44] <mooky> fishbot- find what ?? which software are you looking for
[06:44] <mrpurpl1> i just arrived in linux world ...
[06:44] <mooky> S yes, just not your own and the root password at the same time
[06:44] <darrell> What one is used with 6.10
[06:44] <mooky> darrell but whats the problem ?
[06:44] <mooky> darrell you've not asked a question
[06:44] <mooky> !xinerma >mrpurpl1
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinerma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <S> ahhh ic. any ideas on changing the passwords?
[06:44] <Peecee> darrell : by default, Gnome
[06:44] <mooky> !xinerame
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinerame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <mooky> !xinerama
[06:44] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:45] <mooky> !xinerama >mrpurpl1
[06:45] <mrpurpl1> i did xinerama ... but something it does'n work ..
[06:45] <darrell> minimized window is too  large for 800x600 12.1 screen
[06:45] <mooky> mrpurpl1 /join #xorg for config help
[06:45] <S> will system>admin>user and groups do this?
[06:45] <ExM3th1x> have a problem with gdesklets
[06:45] <mooky> S yes
[06:45] <S> ty very much
[06:45] <fishbot-> mooky
[06:45] <mooky> fishbot- what ?
[06:45] <ExM3th1x> 4 of the 6 desklets are displayed good
[06:46] <ExM3th1x> the other 2 are only displayed on one viewpoint and shown in the gnome panel as "gdesklets-daemon"
[06:46] <ExM3th1x> i have also read man gdesklets but i don't find a way to fix it
[06:46] <ExM3th1x> on the 1. viewpoint: http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/1725/bildschirmfotodo1.png and on all others: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/376/bildschirmfoto1yu7.png
[06:47] <fishbot-> can someone recommend me a c compiler?
[06:47] <mooky> fishbot- gcc
[06:47] <mooky> fishbot- although if you have to ask - you maybe should not be using it
[06:47] <darrell> How do I change the minimized and maximized window size in Ubuntu 6.10
[06:48] <mooky> darrell not sure what you mean, you just use your mouse to drag the windows to the size you want
[06:48] <bauer77> anyone had problems with remote server client not connecting to a windows machine
[06:48] <mooky> bauer77 nope, all good
[06:48] <bauer77> I had it working earlier no when I connect it just sits idle
[06:49] <W^^harddd^^> plz help me in my modem problem
[06:49] <ExM3th1x> no ideas?
[06:49] <darrell> The default window size is too large for my screen
[06:49] <mooky> bauer77 problem must be network/server related if your client config has not changed
[06:49] <mooky> darrell not sure that can be changed
[06:49] <bauer77> well it works if I RDP from windows
[06:49] <mooky> darrell you can change the fonts in things like xterm which changes the default launch size
[06:49] <mooky> bauer77 so something must have changed on your client or network side
[06:49] <darrell> thus when I attempt to rezie it or move it the operating buttons are still offscreen
[06:50] <mooky> darrell run a higher resolution
[06:50] <darrell> I would love  too
[06:51] <darrell> I can and have run this laptop at 1024x768 in win98, XP, Mandrake9.2 and Xandros 2.0 but am unable to in 6.10
[06:52] <mooky> darrel what video card are you using
[06:52] <darrell> neomagic magicgraph 256av
[06:52] <mooky> darrell Hmmm an unusual card
[06:53] <darrell> video an sound card combo
[06:53] <mooky> darrell try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if you can reconfigure it
[06:53] <darrell> I have tried that
[06:53] <mooky> darrell gutting - must be the drivers in xorg 7.1.1
[06:53] <foutrelis> darrell: Read this. It might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 :)
[06:53] <darrell> I have manually edited te xorg,conf too
[06:53] <foutrelis> oh
[06:53] <foutrelis> :\
[06:53] <mrpurpl1> mooky there nobady is writing ..
[06:53] <mooky> mrpurpl1 just wait around in there
[06:54] <mrpurpl1> this is my xorg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2993/
[06:54] <mooky> mrpurpl1 I can't view web pages from my current location
[06:54] <mrpurpl1> ok ..
[06:54] <mrpurpl1> i keep wait
[06:55] <W^^harddd^^> i cannot be able to activate my US Rebotic external modem on ubuntu edgy
[06:57] <klauz> is there a way to REQUEST a specific ip to the dhcp server using dhclient ?
[06:57] <mooky> klauz no, thats configured at the server
[06:57] <incep> isn't there a way for a client to request an ip?
[06:57] <mooky> the server can serve a specific IP to a specific client - but the client can't request it
[06:58] <incep> I've just been through this stuff a bit back, and the DHCP server usually saves the IP if the mac adress logs on the network again, savetime is configurable.
[06:58] <mooky> incep thats just lease times
[06:58] <incep> I think my Novell client asks for an IP to the server tho.
[06:58] <mooky> if it gives you an ip and you re-request in the same lease it will give the same IP back
[06:58] <|Jason8|> Can't you set a static IP on the client?
[06:58] <incep> But noone uses novell at home lol
[06:58] <mooky> |Jason8| thats not what he's asking
[06:58] <foutrelis> DHCP assigns the lowest IP available
[06:58] <incep> foutrelis, not neccecarily!
[06:59] <mooky> foutrelis depends on leases/subnet/static mappings
[06:59] <foutrelis> incep: hmm
[06:59] <incep> You set an IP-stack and it can give a randomized number.
[06:59] <incep> i.e. 10.0.0-23 to 10.0.0.252
[06:59] <klauz> :(
[06:59] <incep> :p
[06:59] <mooky> ISC dhcp has randomized by default
[06:59] <incep> Well, I'm doing an education on networks and soft, so I should know. :p
[07:00] <incep> But I haven't worked much with windows or win2k3 serv
[07:00] <mooky> incep where you talking about dhcp on windows ?
[07:00] <mooky> incep you do know this is support for ubunut
[07:00] <incep> oh yeah, lol
[07:00] <incep> i have alot of channels up lol
[07:01] <incep> but in ubuntu it's random by default i think
[07:01] <mooky> incep thats funny - whois says your only in 'ubuntu
[07:01] <incep> mooky, yep
[07:01] <incep> on this server :)
[07:01] <W^^harddd^^> i cannot be able to activate my US Rebotic external modem on ubuntu edgy
[07:01] <incep> oink.me.uk, qnet, norbits, etc
[07:01] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[07:01] <foutrelis> incep: how old are you?
[07:02] <incep> 19,  still naab.
[07:02] <KaZaNt1P|away>  !
[07:02] <foutrelis> incep: nice :)
[07:02] <incep> just learning the basics of network still, i guess..
[07:02] <mooky> KaZaNt1P|away please speak english only
[07:02] <KaZaNt1P|away> noy
[07:02] <incep> I haven't tried setting up a DNS server with Linux and actually USING it yet.. =/
[07:03] <incep> I did try to administrate a 500-node network with Novell though, that was interresting.
[07:03] <KaZaNt1P|away> RUS
[07:03] <KaZaNt1P|away> ^)
[07:03] <KaZaNt1P|away> :)
[07:03] <mooky> KaZaNt1P|away please speak english
[07:03] <mooky> !ru > KaZaNt1P|away
[07:03] <foutrelis> networks are cool
[07:03] <foutrelis> :)
[07:03] <peresko> what program to use to cluster ubuntu machines?
[07:03] <incep> not when they ain't working!
[07:03] <incep> captain tech-guy to the resque.
[07:04] <W^^harddd^^> i exist on this channel ??????????????????????????
[07:04] <Urthmover> I'm back
[07:04] <Urthmover> scrollz (ircii derivative seems good)
[07:04] <KaZaNt1P|away> good bai
[07:04] <KaZaNt1P|away> :)
[07:05] <mooky> go then
[07:05] <incep> I was at a IT-fare today.
[07:05] <Urthmover> and what did you see worth mentioning incep?
[07:05] <incep> Digital Hverdag in Bergen.
[07:05] <incep> Well I went to the apple stand, booted PS CS3 and made a "LINUX <3" drawing on the big screen. :D
[07:05] <incep> Then i unplugged the mouse and keyboard. <3
[07:06] <incep> Then I stole a lot of iPod-candy.
[07:06] <mustaukko> I've got sound problems. My card is integrated, uses via82xx. Linux seems to find it ok, I've checked that channels are not muted... what else can I do? there is no sound coming.
[07:06] <gilad_g> Hi, can someone help me? i have just installed compiz, but my control styles aren't working...?
[07:06] <incep> I mean, not iPods, just mints. :p
[07:06] <mooky> gilad_g join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:06] <gilad_g> thanx
[07:06] <mustaukko> gilad_g: type gnome-settings-daemon &  to terminal
[07:06] <Urthmover> lol ipod mints
[07:07] <incep> Microsoft were there to present Vista today.
[07:07] <incep> the guy was a total noob :(
[07:07] <gilad_g> wow, that did the trick, thanx! :)
[07:07] <incep> I just.. had to flame him.
[07:07] <mooky> as opposed to your greatness
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> !noob | incep
[07:07] <ubotu> incep: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:07] <mustaukko> gilad_g: noproblem
[07:07] <mooky> tonyyarusso gratzi
[07:07] <incep> :(
[07:07] <Crazysk8> oi
[07:07] <Crazysk8> how do i get my server's ip?
[07:08] <incep> Well, it's connected to Microsoft.
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> mooky: s/gratzi/grazie/ :)
[07:08] <incep> What does jfgi stand for anyway? o_O
[07:08] <mooky> incep this channel has nothing to do with microsoft
[07:08] <AnkleBiter> Hi Guys, I just downloaded a new theme, installed it and its all fine except it doesnt change the colour of the open apps bars at the bottom, is there any way of sorting it?
[07:08] <mustaukko> Crazysk8: are you connected there? 'ifconfig'
[07:08] <MajorPayne> How do I set the default movie player in gnome?
[07:08] <mooky> tonyyarusso grazie
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> incep: Just f*%&$*# Google it
[07:08] <incep> Oh.
[07:08] <incep> I usually give them the link.
[07:08] <gilad_g> mustaukko: is it alright if i put this command in my compiz-startup?
[07:08] <dr3am> hello i used sudo and then changed the clock back two hours, now sudo says timestamp is too faw away in the future
[07:08] <Crazysk8> i see 192.168.1.102
[07:09] <mooky> incep just so your aware, saying a guy presenting on behalf of microsoft about a product that no-one yet owns is a "noob" makes you sound pretty weak
[07:09] <dr3am> help please :'(
[07:09] <mustaukko> gilad_g: I usually place in session.
[07:09] <gilad_g> mustaukko: where would that be?
[07:09] <mustaukko> gilad_g: but what ever suits your fancy. :)
[07:09] <ubuntuftw> hey how do I uzip a .zip into a root folder (opt)
[07:09] <AnkleBiter> Hi Guys, I just downloaded a new theme, installed it and its all fine except it doesnt change the colour of the open apps bars at the bottom, is there any way of sorting it?
[07:09] <mooky> Crazysk8 thats your ip then
[07:09] <incep> I'm saying that he didn't know enough about the system to lead a Q&A.
[07:09] <ubuntuftw> for some reason I don't get volume managing in edgy
[07:09] <MajorPayne> How do I set the default movie player in gnome?
[07:09] <mustaukko> system->settings->session
[07:09] <mustaukko> gilad_g: system->settings->session
[07:09] <ubuntuftw> so i can't start file roller
[07:09] <W^^harddd^^> hello ?????????????????
[07:10] <Crazysk8> im looking for my ip how other people, not in my network, can connect to the server ..
[07:10] <koli> hello people
[07:10] <mustaukko> gilad_g: there you have startup programs.
[07:10] <AnkleBiter> can anyone help me?
[07:10] <AnkleBiter> Hi Guys, I just downloaded a new theme, installed it and its all fine except it doesnt change the colour of the open apps bars at the bottom, is there any way of sorting it?
[07:10] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ no-one can help you at the moment
[07:10] <mooky> AnkleBiter we saw you ask that 30 seconds ago
[07:10] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: what happening??
[07:10] <ubuntuftw> is there a terminal command to unzip a compressed file besides a tar?
[07:10] <koli> can someone help me how to install and enable 3d effects with xgl in ubuntu
[07:10] <darrell> Mooky, I believe I have tried that fix
[07:10] <mooky> ubuntuftw unzip or uncompress dependiong on the format
[07:10] <mooky> koli /join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:10] <W^^harddd^^> y ?
[07:10] <mustaukko> ubuntuftw: well there is unzip.. :)
[07:10] <ubuntuftw> or how to start nautilus as root with volume management
[07:10] <mooky> darrell which fix
[07:10] <gilad_g> mustaukko: yeah, i've got a call there to start-compiz, so it's the same thing, anyways... thanks again!
[07:11] <ubuntuftw> i'm trying to uncompress a .zip into a root folder how do I do it
[07:11] <Crazysk8> im lookin for my ip how people, not in my network, can connect to my server ..
[07:11] <AnkleBiter> Mooky, i know but noone replied so i reposted so that no one told me off or just saying "can anyone help me?"
[07:11] <koli>  /join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:11] <ubuntuftw> :P
[07:11] <jrib> ubuntuftw: unzip is the command...
[07:11] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: What's the problem?
[07:11] <ubuntuftw> it is?
[07:11] <mooky> AnkleBiter you posted the same question 2 times in under aminute
[07:11] <ubuntuftw> haha ok thanks
[07:11] <darrell> the one you sent me to
[07:11] <mooky> darrell did I send you one ?
[07:11] <W^^harddd^^> mooky: i asked u y .. i need help man
[07:11] <mooky> I don't remember
[07:11] <darrell> editing the xorg.conf
[07:11] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ just wait
[07:11] <mooky> darrell don't think I asked you to do that
[07:11] <MajorPayne> How do I set the default movie player in gnome?
[07:12] <darrell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[07:12] <jrib> !defaultapp | MajorPayne
[07:12] <ubotu> MajorPayne: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[07:12] <mooky> darrell ahh I didn't send you taht
[07:12] <mooky> that
[07:12] <AnkleBiter> anyone know how to change the colour of the open apps tabs?
[07:12] <W^^harddd^^> ok
[07:12] <mooky> AnkleBiter you've JUST asked
[07:12] <Urthmover> what is the proper way to stop/quit mplayer running from the commandline?
[07:12] <mooky> !patience >AnkleBiter
[07:12] <W^^harddd^^> i will wait for u msg
[07:12] <jrib> Urthmover: press q
[07:12] <Urthmover> Ctrl+Z?  Ctrl+C?
[07:12] <mojo> Crazysk8: how does your computer connect to the outside world?  cable modem perhaps?
[07:13] <Urthmover> ok  pressing Q  workd
[07:13] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ I won't be messaging you
[07:13] <AnkleBiter> mooky, THEN TRY REPLYING!! SORRY BUT I ONLY GOT 10MINS TO SORT THIS BEFORE I GTG!!!!!!!
[07:13] <jrib> !caps | AnkleBiter
[07:13] <ubotu> AnkleBiter: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:13] <mooky> AnkleBiter no need for caps - read the patience line
[07:13] <Urthmover> but sometimes...I get a corrupt thing and the program breaks...
[07:13] <instabin> !glx
[07:13] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter:  so, you want to change the background color for the open windows pane?
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <_gus_> is there any metapackage that i can remove and with them all the graphic enviroment ?
[07:13] <ubuntuftw> caution: filename not matched:  /opt
[07:13] <Crazysk8> server - router - modem - the internet ..
[07:13] <instabin> !xgl
[07:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:13] <Urthmover> I can't even kill pid  sometimes
[07:13] <mooky> AnkleBiter people are busy in conversation so can't just drop everything to help you
[07:13] <Crazysk8> cable idd
[07:13] <Urthmover> what do you think I'm doing wrong?
[07:13] <ubuntuftw> is sudo unzip <file> /opt the correct way for a .zip file>?
[07:13] <ubuntuftw> ?*
[07:13] <mooky> Urthmover if you can't kill the pid- its zombying
[07:14] <mojo> Crazysk8: idd ??
[07:14] <Crazysk8> indeed
[07:14] <mooky> ubuntuftw no just sudo unzip $file
[07:14] <mustaukko> ubuntuftw: you don't have to sudo everything.. .)
[07:14] <ubuntuftw> how can I start nautilus as root with volume support?
[07:14] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: yes please, the bit at the bottom (on mine) that says whats open at the minute without changing the panel colour
[07:14] <Urthmover> and how do I avoid or kill the zombies?
[07:14] <bauer77> anyone that that can help me with Terminal Server Client? I put in the correct IP and click connect but nothing happens. If I remote in from a  local Xp machine and remote it than it works.
[07:14] <ubuntuftw> Mooky: I still have to put it in the right folder
[07:14] <mooky> Urthmover some zombies can't be killed
[07:14] <mooky> ubuntuftw yes but you move the zip file in the right folder before unzipping
[07:14] <mooky> it unzips in pwd
[07:14] <ubuntuftw> directory* lol
[07:14] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter:  ... so you want to just change the button colors?
[07:14] <Urthmover> so I need a 12guage head pointing terminal command
[07:14] <Urthmover> well zombies are gay
[07:15] <ubuntuftw> mooky: how can I do that if I don't have root access to said folder
[07:15] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: yes, the bit that at the minute says im on XChat
[07:15] <jrib> Urthmover: kill -9  is your 12guage :)
[07:15] <bauer77> never mind it just started working...lol
[07:15] <mooky> ubuntuftw if you put the file in /tmp and unzip it - it will unzip to /tmp
[07:15] <Crazysk8> in my previous installation, i could just see my ip but i don't know how anymore ..
[07:15] <Urthmover> k jrib   (or kill %1)
[07:15] <mooky> Crazysk8 ifconfig shows your ip
[07:15] <Crazysk8> yeah
[07:15] <Crazysk8> inside ip
[07:15] <jrib> Urthmover: that just kills job 1
[07:15] <Crazysk8> but
[07:15] <mojo> Okay.  Most cable modems host a web page with their configurations.  you want to know your WAN IP for your network.  The cable modem is probably either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.100.  You will have to point your web browser to that address and you should get an administrative web page for your cablemodem
[07:15] <mooky> Crazysk8 your router controls the nat
[07:15] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: yeah and displays all the other windows too. So, was it so that you changed a theme and now you want to modify it?
[07:15] <darrell> still here
[07:16] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: or just that something did not change like you wanted?
[07:16] <Crazysk8> yep i know, mojo
[07:16] <instabin> I have slow perfromance with quake4 and counterstirke when i use beryl as my window manager is there a way to fix it
[07:16] <ubuntuftw> K I got it
[07:16] <mooky> instabin /join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:16] <Crazysk8> and then?
[07:16] <mojo> Crazysk8: if your cablemodem asks for a password, you will likely have to google up what the default user name and password are for your make/model of cablemodem.
[07:16] <mooky> instabin possbily not as xgl eats the memory
[07:16] <instabin> mooky: i have j
[07:16] <mooky> instabin you have j ?
[07:16] <ubuntuftw> www.portforward.com
[07:16] <instabin> mooky: i have joined ubuntu xgl
[07:16] <mojo> Crazysk8: somewhere (you have to poke around) you will find a status page that tells you what the cable modem
[07:16] <Crazysk8> ive been there before
[07:16] <ubuntuftw> best site out there for that
[07:16] <mooky> instabin great, thats the support channel
[07:16] <Crazysk8> password is already changed by me..
[07:16] <ubuntuftw> click on forwarding
[07:16] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: well i changed to a black skin with white text and the open apps tab is still pale grey/white so i cant read it so i was hoping i coud change the colour to black
[07:16] <mojo> Crazysk8: is using for an external (WAN) ip address
[07:17] <ubuntuftw> you can reset it
[07:17] <instabin> mooky no one is talking in there
[07:17] <ubuntuftw> that will make the passowrd default
[07:17] <mooky> instabin just wait around
[07:17] <incep> Soo. A little thingy for displaying RSS-bulletins on my desktop. Any suggestions?
[07:17] <Crazysk8> tells you what the cable modem ...?
[07:17] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: information about theming gnome is really beoynd me... but let me try somehthing..
[07:17] <yellow> 
[07:17] <mooky> incep gdesklets
[07:17] <darrell> ???
[07:17] <mooky> darrell what ?
[07:17] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: ok thanks anyway
[07:17] <mojo> Crazysk8: there are other ways... There are websites that will report back to you what IP address they see you coming to them as.  But I don't have a handy link for you to use.
[07:17] <darrell> waiting
[07:17] <W^^harddd^^> mooky: i m on window xp right now n i m dying to login to ubuntu linux and have chit chat there
[07:18] <mooky> darrell for what ?
[07:18] <incep> Thank you.
[07:18] <Crazysk8> www.whatismyip.com
[07:18] <AnkleBiter> does anyone know where theres a guide on theming gnome?
[07:18] <Crazysk8> but
[07:18] <graft> anyone flying with beryl 0.2.0-beta?
[07:18] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ I know
[07:18] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: so the problem is the panel background?
[07:18] <Crazysk8> i can't go there via my server, right?
[07:18] <mojo> Crazysk8: Once you know what your WAN IP is, though, that is only the first step.
[07:18] <mooky> AnkleBiter there are docs on ubuntu.com and on gnome-look.org
[07:18] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: I tried the high contrast, and there seemed to be some lines left
[07:18] <darrell> thanks for your help, bye
[07:18] <ubuntuftw> how do I start nautilus as root with volume support? why did they change that it's really annoying
[07:18] <Crazysk8> why, mojo?
[07:18] <mooky> ubuntuftw what ?
[07:18] <mooky> volume support ?
[07:19] <mooky> ubuntuftw is just the file manage
[07:19] <mooky> manager
[07:19] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: no the panels have changed with the skin, its the bits on it that dont change like the open apps panel
[07:19] <Crazysk8> mojo, i see a status page, and then?
[07:19] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: you can change the background for the entire panel really easy.
[07:19] <mojo> Crazysk8: there are two issues... one is that your cable modem will periodically get a new IP address from your cable company, like for instance when you cycle it's power may times
[07:19] <darwinhate> huh, new kernel in the proposed updates section
[07:19] <Urthmover> Lando Cal.. is smooth
[07:19] <Urthmover> "would you get going you pirate"
[07:19] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: then I suspect that the theme you've got there is bust.
[07:20] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: yer but i only want to change the background of the open apps menu
[07:20] <Crazysk8> no that won't happen
[07:20] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: ah ok ill keep looking
[07:20] <mooky> AnkleBiter there are docs on ubuntu.com and on gnome-look.org
[07:20] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: if it is black you want there is a really easy way to get it.
[07:20] <incep> Oh and by the way, while I'm here. Any aMSN-users experiencing lag spikes?
[07:20] <mojo> i mean, like many times when you cycle its power.  sometimes it will come up with the same one sometimes not.  so what that means is that your WAN IP is a moving target and cannot be counted on to always be the same number as it is right now.
[07:20] <Urthmover> my login prompt doesn't seem to want to save changes.....what do I do?
[07:20] <Crazysk8> in my previous installation, it didnt happen
[07:20] <mooky> incep someone reported that yesterday 0
[07:20] <mooky> I think there is a bug logged for it
[07:20] <Urthmover> what is the text file I can specify a change and SAVE it
[07:20] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter: you can just right click on a free space and select properties. From there you can set it to black.
[07:20] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: oh right, is that using change the panel bg colour
[07:20] <Crazysk8> so i need to have a static ip ..
[07:20] <incep> A lot of people has.. But I can't see any viable solution.
[07:20] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: yer
[07:21] <incep> Most replies are "get more ram, lawl" etc.
[07:21] <AnkleBiter> mustaukko: ok thanks a lot, cya
[07:21] <mooky> incep its a software bug - hence why its been logged
[07:21] <mustaukko> AnkleBiter:  no proble,
[07:21] <ubuntuftw> mooky: try and access / from a root nautilus
[07:21] <ubuntuftw> you can't
[07:21] <mustaukko> Cry me a river... :)
[07:21] <mojo> Crazysk8: well you can set your computer to have a static IP, but that will be a static IP on your internal network... the 192.168.1.x network.  The outside world never sees that.  But it helps to do that anyway.
[07:21] <mooky> ubuntuftw not got an ubuntu box in front of me to check
[07:21] <darwinhate> ubuntuftw, root as in "sudo nautilus"
[07:21] <jrib> ubuntuftw: check if you have /.hidden
[07:21] <joeamined> hi
[07:21] <joeamined> i've got a bizzare problem
[07:21] <darwinhate> or root as in su -u root -c nautilus
[07:21] <Crazysk8> my server's ip is 192.168.1.102
[07:21] <mooky> joeamined just ask it
[07:22] <mooky> Crazysk8 thats an internal ip
[07:22] <Crazysk8> but how to get that 'wan' ip?
[07:22] <jrib> ubuntuftw: does hitting ctrl-l and then typing "/" not work?
[07:22] <Crazysk8> i know ..
[07:22] <mojo> Crazysk8: What services are you trying to make available to the outside world?  Do you want to run a web (http) server, or an ftp server, or is there another purpose?
[07:22] <mustaukko> joeamined: where's trouble? :)
[07:22] <mooky> Crazysk8 you get it from your router#
[07:22] <ubuntuftw> mooky: yes
[07:22] <graft> Crazysk8: whatismyip.com
[07:22] <incep> Yeah, I know it is, since it pushes my CPU utilization briefly up to max on a simple namechange command running through it.
[07:22] <Crazysk8> http
[07:22] <joeamined> html files are sometimes opened with the web browser and other times by bluefish (the web editor). how can i fix this ?
[07:22] <kristopher> this is killing me. i'm new to gnome. How do i get my windows mounts off the desktop but leave them in places.
[07:22] <mojo> Crazysk8: yes, whatismyip.com sounds like one of those web sites i was talking about.
[07:22] <Crazysk8> i can't go to that website via my server..?
[07:22] <darwinhate> Crazysk8, your ip is 62.194.238.214
[07:22] <mooky> incep so as it is a software bug - what do you expect done about it in here ?
[07:23] <ubuntuftw> (nautilus:12213): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[07:23] <ubuntuftw> Volume monitoring will not work.
[07:23] <mustaukko> joeamined: whoa.. lets check
[07:23] <Crazysk8> not my server's ip ..!
[07:23] <graft> Crazysk8: it doesn't matter, you only have one wan ip
[07:23] <mojo> Crazysk8: but if you check that IP at a later date (esp. if you have had to cycle power on your cable modem), you may find that the number changes
[07:23] <incep> I'm asking if any of the other users had any experience with the bug, and if they had any ways to eliminate it.
[07:23] <Crazysk8> oh
[07:23] <mooky> Crazysk8 for the love of god - check your router
[07:23] <Byan> Crazysk8: if you are both on the same router
[07:23] <Byan> you have the same IP
[07:23] <graft> Crazysk8: your router is doing NAT for the internal network
[07:23] <Crazysk8> no
[07:23] <incep> I'm well aware that it isn't a bug generated by the system :)
[07:23] <Crazysk8> oh ok
[07:23] <Crazysk8> didnt know that
[07:23] <graft> Crazysk8: none of them have wan IPs
[07:23] <mooky> incep its a software bug - you can't fix it without fixing the softwre
[07:23] <shingalated> Can anyone how to fix my IMAP server when I telnet I get this:
[07:23] <shingalated> 01 LOGIN chris mysupersecretpassword
[07:23] <shingalated> * BYE [ALERT]  Fatal error: Maildir: No such file or directory
[07:23] <shingalated> Connection closed by foreign host.
[07:23] <jrib> !paste | shingalated
[07:23] <ubotu> shingalated: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <mooky> shingalated you don't have a maildir for your users login homedir
[07:24] <Crazysk8> i fauld that this pc and the server had different ip's
[07:24] <joeamined> mustaukko : u can help me ?
[07:24] <mustaukko> joeamined: could it be that some of them are called HTML files?
[07:24] <mojo> Crazysk8: Your cable modem is using DHCP onthe WAN side with your cable provider's DHCP servers, more than likely.  It is rare for them to assign a static IP address to a cable modem without charging an extra fee (if they would even offer it).
[07:24] <mustaukko> joeamined: and some html files?
[07:24] <shingalated> how do I add one of those?
[07:24] <Crazysk8> then i just have to open some ports in the router ..
[07:24] <mooky> shingalated maildirmake
[07:24] <m12> how do you make a LINK with a command string?  like for example 'mplayer dvd:///dev/hdb'?  aliases only work in the terminal
[07:24] <mustaukko> joeamined: or even htm files?
[07:24] <shingalated> thanks...easy enough
[07:24] <incep> I did some basic stuff like unloading plugins, it makes it better atleast.. Guess I'll use GAIM or something for a while.
[07:24] <mojo> Crazysk8: Cable providers are not fond of you being a server of any kind, really.  They only are interested in consumers.
[07:24] <jrib> ubuntuftw: what is your end goal?
[07:24] <Crazysk8> well
[07:24] <darwinhate> m12, huh?
[07:24] <darwinhate> m12, do you mean a symbolic link?
[07:24] <mooky> incep wise choice
[07:24] <Crazysk8> with dapper drake the ip was always the same ..
[07:24] <m12> yes
[07:24] <ubuntuftw> ok i think I fixed it
[07:25] <darwinhate> Crazysk8, your distro doesn't change your ip address
[07:25] <m12> darwinhate:  i've used link in the past, but i don't think it works iwth command strings
[07:25] <Crazysk8> but i won't plan to shutdown my server
[07:25] <ubuntuftw> jrib: to type sudo nautilus and get /
[07:25] <Byan> o_O
[07:25] <darwinhate> m12, link?
[07:25] <joeamined> well a html file is opened in the webbrowser but, for example when i use kopete to open my inbox in my hotmail account, it uses bluefish to open it.
[07:25] <ubuntuftw> but I think it suddenly started working lol
[07:25] <cowbud> m12: create a file that has that in it and add #!/bin/bash to the top chmod +x the file and put it in your path
[07:25] <gaten> does ubuntu have an odd numbering system for apache 2? the latest apache2 packages are 2.0.55, while the latest security release for apache is 2.0.59 (which was updated in July 06)
[07:25] <darwinhate> m12, try "ln -s"
[07:25] <m12> ok i will try that
[07:25] <mooky> gaten no the latest ubuntu apackage is apache 2.55
[07:25] <mojo> Crazysk8: the answer for a stable IP address is not the IP address but to register a domain name.  Look into either no-ip.com or dyndns.org for their offerings.  you can get a free domain name through them and a program (they both support linux) that will automatically update the dns name when your WAN IP address changes,
[07:25] <m12> what is the difference between ln -s and link?
[07:26] <mustaukko> joeamined: it's got something to do with default programs. And might well be that kopete uses different set than rest of your programs.
[07:26] <gaten> mooky:  so ubuntu isnt doing apache security updates anymore? what gives
[07:26] <joeamined> maybe it's because kopete is for kde and i didn't define the default application to open html files in kde..
[07:26] <Crazysk8> ive got a domain name
[07:26] <Crazysk8> so
[07:26] <mooky> gaten maybe back fixes
[07:26] <W^^harddd^^> mooky: i guess i will not get any help
[07:26] <Crazysk8> i only have to point the domain name to this ip address, but if it changed..?
[07:26] <Crazysk8> changes*
[07:26] <W^^harddd^^> if yes . tell me so that i can leave
[07:26] <ubuntuftw> wow edgy is faster
[07:26] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ doesn't look like it
[07:26] <mustaukko> joeamined: try to use firefox, or opera. they are really sweet programs too.
[07:26] <mojo> Crazysk8: so like i was asking, what do you want to have available to the outside world.  It will make a difference if you need to bother with all that or not.  Is it a once-in-a-while thing you want to do or do you want to set up a permanent or semipermanent service?
[07:26] <ubuntuftw> idk how though
[07:26] <Crazysk8> htppd
[07:26] <cowbud> m12: it looks like link creates hard links where as ln -s creates soft links
[07:26] <W^^harddd^^> if i m not getting anythiing
[07:26] <Crazysk8> http
[07:26] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ nope
[07:26] <gaten> mooky:  ok thanks
[07:27] <mooky> gaten thats not fact - just a possible answer
[07:27] <Crazysk8> just for my website ..
[07:27] <Urthmover> ok here's what it does
[07:27] <Byan> Crazysk8: what you need to do is use a dynamic DNS service
[07:27] <lullabud> does anybody know why in /etc/hosts localhost is set up as 127.0.0.1, and the hostname uses 127.0.1.1 ?
[07:27] <joeamined> mustaukko : i'm using kopete for instant messanging not for web browsing
[07:27] <m12> cowbud: do you know the difference between the two?  hard links and softlinks that is
[07:27] <cowbud> m12: but if you are looking to maek a "shortcut" for mplayer dvd:.... a link won't do it
[07:27] <Urthmover> http://206.51.234.210:8020;stream.nsv
[07:27] <Byan> and set your domain to use their DNS servers
[07:27] <Urthmover> MPlayer interrupted by signal 6 in module: open_stream
[07:27] <Urthmover> - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
[07:27] <Urthmover>   It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your
[07:27] <Urthmover>   gcc version.
[07:27] <mustaukko> joeamined: uups.. Sorry, my bad.
[07:27] <Crazysk8> ive got bind running  here ..
[07:27] <gaten> mooky:  right, checking it out. but thanks anyway
[07:27] <Urthmover> why does it goof up?
[07:27] <brosioz> anyone known a visual client scp for transfert file over ssh in gnome ?
[07:27] <W^^harddd^^> y not i m getting my answer
[07:27] <mustaukko> joeamined: but the there is gaim
[07:27] <mojo> Crazysk8: yes, a dynamic dns service.
[07:27] <Urthmover> mooky vandalay?
[07:27] <mustaukko> joeamined: Sweet program that too! :)
[07:27] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ people don't know
[07:28] <m12> cowbud:  ohh.  i could do a bin/bash like you said, but doesn't that have to be run in terminal?
[07:28] <mooky> Urthmover pardon ?
[07:28] <Crazysk8> is bind a dynamic dns service or what? :P
[07:28] <mooky> Crazysk8 no
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> i m telling all my settings
[07:28] <Byan> Crazysk8: o_o not even close
[07:28] <joeamined> mustaukko : np prob :) do you know how to specify default web browser for kde apps ?
[07:28] <mooky> Crazysk8 go read docs on www.isc.org on how the interent works
[07:28] <cowbud> m12: yes a hard link can't span partitions and it links directly to the file. i.e. if I have a file called bob with a hardlink and I remove one of the instances bob is still there because the inode count is increased in the filesystem when you create a hardlink. With a softlink you can remove the original file and the softlink will just point to a missing file, softlinks can span partitions
[07:28] <Urthmover> my mplayer goofs and zombifies
[07:28] <Urthmover> other times it works
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic 56 k Fax external modem
[07:28] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ doesn't matter
[07:28] <mustaukko> joeamined: lets see.
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[07:28] <Urthmover> no ryme or reason
[07:28] <cowbud> m12: you can make a desktop shortcut to the file or a launcher to the file and you will be good to go
[07:28] <mojo> Crazysk8: once you have the service then the cable modem must be set up to forward port 80 (http) requests to your computer on the internal side of the network.  That is port forwarding, and the configuration will be different from cable modem make and model to another.
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> n above is my setting
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> n i cannot activate my modem monitor
[07:28] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ we saw
[07:28] <W^^harddd^^> to dailup
[07:29] <cowbud> W^^harddd^^: that is a terrible name
[07:29] <gb__> hi
[07:29] <mustaukko> joeamined: kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser
[07:29] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ yup, seen you past it before
[07:29] <W^^harddd^^> wat should i now ?
[07:29] <shingalated> mooky, so do I just do makemaildir chris to make my self a mail dir?
[07:29] <mojo> Crazysk8: for that, a static IP address on your internal network will make life easier.
[07:29] <darwinhate> lol - kernel 2.6.17-50, lol
[07:29] <mooky> shingalated yeah
[07:29] <gaten> mooky:  fyi they aren;t there either
[07:29] <mooky> maildirmake ./Maildir
[07:29] <gb__> any1 apache2 users here?
[07:29] <mooky> gaten looks like no bug updates
[07:29] <mooky> gb__ yup
[07:29] <joeamined> mustaukko : i'm using gnome  :-S and kopete in gnome
[07:29] <gb__> mooky:  hi
[07:29] <W^^harddd^^> i shifted from suse 10.1 last night
[07:29] <FunnyMan3595> I'm looking for a way to set up an SSH connection that redirects to a plaintext connection on a local port.  Any ideas?
[07:29] <W^^harddd^^> :(
[07:29] <mooky> gb__ hi
[07:29] <gb__> mooky:  with php mod?
[07:29] <Byan> mojo: you really should be saying that you need to set up port forwarding on the router...
[07:29] <Byan> mojo: modem != router
[07:29] <mooky> gb__ funny enough yes
[07:30] <W^^harddd^^> n cannot able to work on linux
[07:30] <graft> FunnyMan3595: details?
[07:30] <cowbud> FunnyLookinHat: huh?
[07:30] <mooky> W^^harddd^^ go baxk to suse
[07:30] <gaten> mooky:  right, thats bad. theres a remote exploit out for it. not cool. thanks for the help
[07:30] <gb__> mooky:  my is giving some issue, can u help :)
[07:30] <mooky> gaten thanks for letting me know
[07:30] <mooky> gb__ maybe
[07:30] <W^^harddd^^> mooky: thats not the way
[07:30] <bauer77> ok still having problem with terminal server client
[07:30] <mustaukko> joeamined: yeah that's tough. using kde apps, and not having the tools to go with it..
[07:30] <mustaukko> :)
[07:30] <gb__> whenever i run php file , i get open/save box
[07:30] <Crazysk8> well
[07:30] <mooky> gb__ php is not enabled with apache
[07:30] <bauer77> it connects intermittently
[07:31] <FunnyMan3595> The computer's running a MUD server, which just runs over a plaintext connection, and I'd like to set up an SSH redirect so that you can login securely.
[07:31] <Crazysk8> i have a domain
[07:31] <Crazysk8> and can change dns stuff
[07:31] <mooky> gb__ how did you install php/apache
[07:31] <mojo> Byan: yes, modem != router.  my bad!!!
[07:31] <gb__> mooky:  mods is enabled i chked
[07:31] <Crazysk8> dns things ..
[07:31] <Crazysk8> but ..
[07:31] <Crazysk8> ah nvm
[07:31] <mooky> Crazysk8 go to http://www.isc.org - read up on how the internet works
[07:31] <gaten> mooky:  sure. but its been since july 2006. http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_20.html
[07:31] <gb__> mooky:  downloaded modules
[07:31] <Crazysk8> it's good like this
[07:31] <mooky> gaten sounds weak
[07:31] <Crazysk8> thnx :)
[07:31] <gb__> mooky:  a2enmod php5
[07:31] <mooky> gb__ how did you download - apt-get
[07:31] <bauer77> is there any way to debug the Remote Server Client
[07:31] <gb__> syanptic
[07:31] <brosioz> anyone known a visual client scp for transfert file over ssh in gnome ?
[07:31] <mooky> bauer77 run it from a terminal and watch the output in thet term
[07:31] <bauer77> I keep getting a connection timeout error
[07:31] <FunnyMan3595> I don't need any authentication on it, I just need it to redirect to that server, so that the connection is secured.
[07:32] <mooky> gb__ just checking
[07:32] <cowbud> brosioz: sftp from gftp if that will work..
[07:32] <briancann> hey guys how do i quickly restore grub boot loader again to detect my ubuntu partition
[07:32] <mojo> Crazysk8: Byan is right... I have been having a brainfart.
[07:32] <mooky> gb__ whats your files called
[07:32] <bauer77> thanks mooky
[07:32] <graft> FunnyMan3595: um, not possible, or not easy, anyway
[07:32] <mooky> briancann use the grub command shell
[07:32] <gb__> brosioz:  not sure try putty
[07:32] <Agrajag> brosioz: nautilus will do it
[07:32] <gb__> file which file?
[07:32] <brosioz> Agrajag: sure ?
[07:32] <graft> FunnyMan3595: you could do it with netcat if they could authenticate on that machine
[07:32] <Agrajag> yes
[07:32] <mooky> gb__ the php file
[07:32] <brosioz> with which sintax ?
[07:32] <brosioz> fish:// ?
[07:32] <brosioz> ssh:// ?
[07:32] <gb__> test.php
[07:32] <briancann> mooky: how would I access that
[07:32] <Agrajag> oh, I don't know, I jst use the connect to server dialog
[07:32] <bauer77> mookie how do I run it in the terminal
[07:32] <briancann> in a terminal
[07:33] <graft> FunnyMan3595: but any user can do it securely themselves
[07:33] <cowbud> FunnyMan3595: you'd have to setup an ssh server with usernames/passwords then have them forward it if this is your server if it isn't yours you can forget it..
[07:33] <mooky> briancann type "sudo grub" in a shell
[07:33] <bauer77> mooky sorry
[07:33] <mooky> bauer77 no problem
[07:33] <FunnyMan3595> graft: I've got full control over the server, so I can do whatever needed.
[07:33] <cowbud> brosioz: shrug ssh:// should resolve in nautilus
[07:33] <gb__> brosioz:  hi
[07:33] <mooky> gb__ yeah, so the detaul ubuntu install does set up a handler for .php files
[07:33] <mooky> how strange
[07:33] <gb__> brosioz:  it is aGUI based tool
[07:33] <graft> FunnyMan3595: yeah, but ssh doesn't do that...
[07:33] <gb__> mooky:  yep
[07:33] <gb__> i added that too
[07:33] <graft> FunnyMan3595: unless you want to give all your MUD users local accounts, which i highly doubt
[07:33] <cowbud> graft: you can forward ports through ssh
[07:33] <graft> cowbud: yeah, but that's only internal to the machine
[07:33] <FunnyMan3595> graft: The problem is that the people using the MUD aren't users of the machine, and furthermore aren't geeks, so having them set up a port forwarding is a bit much.
[07:34] <graft> cowbud: he wants his users to have secure connections to the machine
[07:34] <cowbud> graft: it's internal to the connection
[07:34] <mooky> gb__ is your webserver public ?
[07:34] <gb__> nope
[07:34] <mooky> gb__ what a shame
[07:34] <gb__> whatever :D
[07:34] <graft> cowbud: so it's secure from... him? but passwords are still sent plaintext over the net
[07:34] <cowbud> FunnyMan3595: are you sure there isn't some sort of ssl package for your mud?
[07:34] <gb__> i'm just learning it dude
[07:34] <gb__> grr
[07:34] <mooky> no sweat, must be frustrating
[07:34] <bauer77> mooky how do I run remote terminal server from the terminal?
[07:34] <mooky> bauer77 don't know the command of the top of my head
[07:34] <gb__> let put it this way, i lost some hair
[07:35] <mooky> bauer77 look on the gnome-menu or google it
[07:35] <cowbud> graft: if I make a connection via ssh to his machine with a -L 66:localhost:66 and then telnet on my machine to port 66 that is secured
[07:35] <bauer77> ok thanks
[07:35] <briancann> mooky: ok Im at "grub>"
[07:35] <cowbud> graft: and it is forwarded through the ssh connection to his machine despite me connecting to localhost
[07:35] <FunnyMan3595> cowbud: Not that I've found.
[07:35] <cowbud> FunnyMan3595: there has to be something what is the name of your mud software?
[07:35] <gb__> mooky ty though
[07:35] <graft> cowbud: yeah, that's what i suggested... but his users aren't that savvy
[07:35] <FunnyMan3595> cowbud: lambdamoo
[07:35] <ciscosurfer> mooky no here
[07:36] <gb__> yeah just saw
[07:36] <gb__> :(
[07:36] <graft> muds are notoriously insecure that way
[07:36] <cowbud> FunnyMan3595: http://sourceforge.net/projects/emeraldmoo/ improved lamda with ssl
[07:36] <cowbud> ohh snap from 2002
[07:36] <cowbud> hah
[07:36] <cowbud> not quite active
[07:36] <gb__> so anyone else?
[07:37] <WLF> Ubuntu rulez xD
[07:37] <Urthmover> singing cranberries over here  (ZOMBIE!!!!!!!!!!!)
[07:37] <FunnyMan3595> cowbud: Lambda itself ain't exactly a shining beacon of activity: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3692
[07:37] <gb__> !beryl
[07:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:37] <briancann> what do I type in the "grub>" prompt for it to find my ubuntu partition
[07:37] <cowbud> FunnyMan3595: well maybe you should look for an updated one or try out emerald..
[07:37] <NeO_Jambian> hi all
[07:38] <gb__> briancann:  hi
[07:38] <NeO_Jambian> I have a problem with wlan
[07:38] <briancann> gb__: hi
[07:38] <gb__> briancann: got live cd?
[07:38] <gb__> briancann:  trying to reinstall grun?
[07:38] <briancann> gb__: already there
[07:38] <NeO_Jambian> can anyone speak german or should I tell you in english?
[07:38] <gb__> grub*
[07:38] <gb__> ok briancann  do this
[07:38] <Peecee> !ge | NeO_Jambian :)
[07:38] <ubotu> NeO_Jambian :):       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[07:38] <Peecee> arg
[07:38] <briancann> with the grub> terminal
[07:38] <Peecee> !gr | NeO_Jambian :)
[07:38] <ciscosurfer> !grub | briancann
[07:38] <ubotu> NeO_Jambian :): #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:38] <Pirate-king> anybody use amork with an ipod?
[07:38] <ubotu> briancann: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:38] <graft> !de | NeO_Jambian
[07:38] <ubotu> NeO_Jambian: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:38] <gb__> briancann: sudo mkdir /mnt/c
[07:38] <Peecee> ty graft
[07:39] <NeO_Jambian> k thx
[07:39] <NeO_Jambian> I'll look there
[07:39] <gb__> briancann:  u with me?
[07:39] <Peecee> if its not active, come back and we'll try to help you (in english)
[07:39] <cowbud> yah know all the ! commands with a nickname afterwards should pm the user it just makes more sense: less spam in the channel, they don't have to scroll up to reread it etc
[07:39] <lullabud> does anybody know why there is 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts ?
[07:40] <cowbud> lullabud: that defines your localhost system
[07:40] <gb__> lullabud:  127.0.0.1?
[07:40] <lullabud> cowbud:  can you expand on that?
[07:40] <pbureau> lullabud - local host
[07:40] <lullabud> gb__:  no, that's there too
[07:40] <briancann> ok gb__
[07:40] <LjL> cowbud: use "!tell nick about thing" or "Ubotu, tell thing" about nick | thing", see the private message from Ubotu for that
[07:40] <lullabud> both 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1
[07:40] <cowbud> LjL: yah well why don't people use that?
[07:40] <LjL> cowbud: erm sorry, the latter would be "!thing to tell > nickname"
[07:41] <cowbud> lullabud: the whole 127.0.0.0/24 block is a defined standard for your localhost
[07:41] <MystaMax> i accidently named a tarball "--exclude", and now i can rename it or delete it! any ideas
[07:41] <pbureau> !unbuntu > pbureau
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <gb__> briancann:  ok , now mount ur linux partition to /mnt/c
[07:41] <LjL> cowbud: they do. sometimes. i guess when people see other people use "|", they follow suit. myself, i find both are appropriate in different circumstances
[07:41] <pbureau> hey it works cool
[07:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell pbureau about bot | pbureau, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:41] <MystaMax> nvm
[07:41] <gb__> briancann:  u know how to mount?
[07:41] <briancann> whats thee command for that
[07:41] <briancann> mount
[07:41] <lullabud> cowbud:  that's what i thought.  do you know why ubuntu gives 127.0.1.1 though?  i mean, it's very non-standard.
[07:41] <gb__> briancann:  type sudo fdisk -l
[07:41] <graft> FunnyMan3595: how's this - make a user with no authentication whose shell simply forwards connections to your mud port?
[07:41] <briancann> sudo mount
[07:41] <lullabud> cowbud:  and i can't find a technical explanation of why they did it that way...
[07:41] <graft> FunnyMan3595: or make a user with public authentication
[07:41] <lullabud> cowbud:  it's causing problems with cfengine
[07:41] <gb__> get the partition number
[07:42] <graft> FunnyMan3595: err, password that everyone knows, i mean
[07:42] <gb__> then type sudo mount /dev/hda? /mnt/c
[07:42] <cowbud> lullabud: you have both in there they just chose to use 1.1 for your hostname, you can change it to .0.1 if it is causing issues that wouldn't make a difference
[07:42] <FunnyMan3595> graft: That's the general idea.
[07:42] <cowbud> lullabud: and I don't know why they chose it but if you do find out do share :)(
[07:42] <graft> FunnyMan3595: yeah, so what's the hangup?
[07:42] <lullabud> cowbud:  righto.  thanks for the input.
[07:42] <FunnyMan3595> graft: Making sure that's *all* the user can do.
[07:43] <AnRkey> hi everyone
[07:43] <jatt> hi, my laptop does use a nvidia card (Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] ) but ubuntu install not only the xserver-xorg-driver-nv, but a lot of other drivers (xserver-xorg-driver-dummy, xserver-xorg-driver-trident, etc.) it is safe to delete all other xserver-xorg-driver-* packages?
[07:43] <ciscosurfer> ARkey: hello
[07:43] <ciscosurfer> AnRkey: hello
[07:43] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  hi :)
[07:43] <gb__> briancann:  done?
[07:43] <ciscosurfer> gb__: hi
[07:43] <graft> FunnyMan3595: pretty easy to lock up a user... don't make a home dir, should be fine
[07:43] <ubuntuftw> thx for the help bye
[07:44] <pbureau> ciscosurfer - you know in chat line if you type 3-4 characters of a persons name and hit TAB it will auto complete it for you :)
[07:44] <jatt> I am not sure if the xserver-xorg-driver-vga or the xserver-xorg-driver-vesa drivers are still used when X is not used but the console.
[07:44] <AnRkey> hi ciscosurfer
[07:44] <ciscosurfer> pbureau: haha, yes, just tired i suppose
[07:44] <briancann> gb__: ive mounted hda1 to /mnt/c
[07:44] <JulioVega> hiho
[07:44] <pbureau> ciscosurfer - (grin) s'ok bud
[07:44] <briancann> gb__: but the folder is empty
[07:44] <briancann> ?
[07:44] <FunnyMan3595> graft: Any idea how to disable port-forwarding on a per-user basis?
[07:45] <gb__> briancann:  are you sure linux was installed on hda1
[07:45] <pbureau> briancann -  whats kind of partition is on the hda1?
[07:45] <AnRkey> does anyone know how to get a promise raid card working in ubuntu?
[07:45] <AnRkey> could really use some help
[07:45] <ubuntuftw> oh yeah; how do I start a root program automatically when I start up
[07:45] <ubuntuftw> google is really helpful I hear
[07:45] <gb__> root program?
[07:45] <ubuntuftw> yeah
[07:46] <briancann> gb__: pbureau ext3 /dev/hda1
[07:46] <Pirate-king> anybody use amork with an ipod?
[07:46] <ubuntuftw> something that requires sudo
[07:46] <briancann> oh
[07:46] <ciscosurfer> Pirate-king, sure
[07:46] <briancann> I know what ive done
[07:46] <briancann> :)
[07:46] <Pirate-king> need some help on how to transfer files
[07:46] <gb__> :)
[07:46] <ubuntuftw> sudo /etc/init.d apache start for example
[07:46] <gb__> Pirate-king:  transfer too?
[07:46] <ubuntuftw> how can I make that so it starts with ubuntu
[07:46] <ciscosurfer> Pirate-king, use gtkpod or the like to transfer file
[07:46] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  u mean services?
[07:46] <pbureau> ubuntuftw - you want to sudo the init.d file each time your pc boots ?
[07:47] <Pirate-king> from external harddrive to ipod
[07:47] <ubuntuftw> hmm
[07:47] <ubuntuftw> ok like this
[07:48] <ubuntuftw> I have a program, say some program that needs root priveleges like proftpd
[07:48] <ciscosurfer> Pirate-king, I would use gtkpod or something similar and then transfer those files to Amarok
[07:48] <ubuntuftw> I want that program to start with ubuntu
[07:48] <pbureau> Pirate-king -  yes I know the feeling I have external HDD having a hard time getting of the MP3 players to see there is actually a network out there with a HDD to access my files (yes I know put them on your PC... humm no I have over 12,000 mp3's)
[07:48] <Eroick> I installed xserver-xorg but it wont start and it says: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
[07:48] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  thats service managemnt ,
[07:48] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  run the services managment tool
[07:48] <briancann> gb__:  pbureau : my ubuntu is now mounted and accessible
[07:48] <Pirate-king> amork can't transfer to ipod?
[07:48] <ciscosurfer> ubuntuftw, you could create a script that calls the app, and place the path to said script in your startup sessions
[07:48] <ubuntuftw> ok where do I go for that
[07:48] <ubuntuftw> I know
[07:48] <LycoLoco> anyone know how to get gkrellm to look up my gmail account?
[07:48] <ciscosurfer> Pirate-king, other apps are better at it, imo
[07:49] <ubuntuftw> but for a sudo program?
[07:49] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  type services-admin as root
[07:49] <ciscosurfer> Pirate-king, ymmv
[07:49] <ubuntuftw> k
[07:49] <gb__> briancann:  ok
[07:49] <pbureau> ymmv??
[07:49] <gb__> briancann:  now type chroot /mnt/c
[07:49] <GoCooL> i have the nvidia-glx driver installed on my ubuntu edgy box but is there some graphics acceleration package or something you guys install on your machines? my Screensaver is ridiculously slow when I use any of the 3d GL screensavers
[07:49] <ciscosurfer> pbureau, your mileage may vary
[07:49] <pbureau> ciscosurfer - lol
[07:50] <Peecee> !nvidia | GoCooL
[07:50] <ubotu> GoCooL: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <ubuntuftw> hmmm that doesn't help much I want to start a custom program
[07:50] <GoCooL> ubotu: I do have the nvidia deriver installed
[07:50] <ciscosurfer> ubuntuftw, is the app graphical (uses a gui)?
[07:50] <pbureau> ubuntuftw - if you want to start a program (ie : Sudo <runthisapps) then you need to write a script and insert the script line into your init.d
[07:50] <ubuntuftw> ciscosurfer: no
[07:50] <GoCooL> Peecee: I do have the nvidia deriver installed
[07:51] <shatrat^sleep> GoCooL: doubtful.  If the driver was working your screensavers would be fast.
[07:51] <gb__> briancann:  done?
[07:51] <Peecee> GoCooL : are you running beryl/compiz ?
[07:51] <Mulle^> Hallo. I'm a new Ubuntu user... when i try to boot Ubuntu it says something like Error HDD after it finnish The Ubuntu Run logo thing :S
[07:51] <GoCooL> Peecee: no
[07:51] <LycoLoco> anyone know how to get gkrellm to look up my gmail account? like, what settings I should use?
[07:51] <ciscosurfer> ubuntuftw, ok....write a script, call the app is the script, prepending sudo to the app path, save file, place path into startup sessions
[07:51] <Rprp>   ChanServ GoDson Hidde Khawalx QsSander Roobie Rprp Scusio`AA sxm Terry Wesleysld Yasa^
[07:52] <GoCooL> Peecee: glxinfo even shows Direct Rendering: Yes
[07:52] <pbureau> Mulle^ -  like HDD error ... or something more specific ?
[07:52] <Mulle^> pbureau: then i have try..
[07:52] <briancann> gb__: im at "root@ubuntu:/#"
[07:52] <gb__> LycoLoco: use fetchmail
[07:52] <gb__> briancann:  ok now type
[07:52] <Peecee> GoCooL : what model video card?
[07:52] <gb__> briancann:  grub-install /dev/hda
[07:52] <ciscosurfer> LycoLoco, use checkgmail
[07:52] <Eroick> what package contains the 'fixed' fonts?
[07:52] <LycoLoco> gb__: yeah, I tried that but all it's doing is bringing up my browser every 5 mnutes, not showing anything in the mail tray
[07:53] <ubuntuftw> pbureau: in init.d those all seem to be executables
[07:53] <ryanarn> anyone here work with bzr bundles?  (yes I know there is a #bzr but they appear to be mutes)
[07:53] <GoCooL> Peecee: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2, if this is what ur asking
[07:53] <gb__> LycoLoco:  i use that with mutt, get all my mails
[07:53] <LycoLoco> what's mutt?
[07:53] <graft> FunnyMan3595: um, just have two ssh servers running, and lock one up completely - no port forwarding, no agent forwarding, no x11 forwarding.
[07:53] <gb__> !mutt | LycoLoco
[07:53] <ubotu> mutt: text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.12-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 990 kB, installed size 4952 kB
[07:53] <ubuntuftw> pbureau: I want to make a script that starts my webserver with ubuntu how do I make that script into one of those in the init.d
[07:53] <Peecee> GoCooL : you should be having great performance then
[07:53] <Peecee> hmm
[07:54] <FunnyMan3595> graft: How do I keep them from using the other server?
[07:54] <graft> FunnyMan3595: you can lock their user out of it, presumably
[07:54] <LjL> Rprp: ping
[07:54] <gb__> LycoLoco:  it is atext based email client
[07:54] <FunnyMan3595> graft: I see sshd_config has an AllowUsers option...
[07:54] <graft> FunnyMan3595: also DenyUsers
[07:54] <gb__> briancann:  done?
[07:54] <Rprp> :o?
[07:54] <pbureau> ubuntuftw - ininit.d those are command line excuted one line at a time, create a script that contains what you want to execute (ie /home/executable_on_boot) and enter in init.d the /home/executable_on_boot.. realy not socery here
[07:55] <LjL> Rprp: why did you paste a nickname list and then quit?
[07:55] <FunnyMan3595> graft: Aha, and there's the -f switch on sshd to specify an alternate config file.
[07:55] <LycoLoco> ok, I guess I should ask a better question - how would one go about making gkrellm check my mail and actualy show the number of unread emails in the mailcheck box?
[07:55] <ciscosurfer> pbureau, or sorcery either
[07:55] <LjL> Rprp: you seem to do this often
[07:55] <Stormx2> Is there any way, from the command line, to see which app currently has focus?
[07:55] <Mulle^> pbureau: I just started the installing... but does it have something todo with the CD? i made in finalize :S
[07:55] <pbureau> /etc/apache start is what I think you need, why you need SUDO is beyond me
[07:55] <Rprp> I didnt? :/
[07:55] <ubuntuftw> pbureau: would echo "/opt/<program>" work?
[07:55] <LjL> Rprp, yes you did - [19:51:58]  <Rprp>  ChanServ GoDson Hidde Khawalx QsSander Roobie Rprp Scusio`AA sxm Terry Wesleysld Yasa^  [19:51:58]  <-- Rprp has left this server ("Can't sleep.......................Clowns will eat me").
[07:55] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  nope
[07:56] <Mulle^> well im waiting for the error to popup pbureau  might take a few mins
[07:56] <Rprp> hm, weird :/
[07:56] <ubuntuftw> the program I'm running won't start without sudo
[07:56] <FunnyMan3595> graft: Okay, I'm going to go see if I can get that working now.
[07:56] <Stormx2> pbureau: apache needs to be run as root, perhaps...
[07:56] <ciscosurfer> pbureau, if you want to start apache at boot, then the correct command would be sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[07:56] <pbureau> Stormx2 - it does ? or need to be configured properly ?
[07:56] <gb__> Stormx2:  it always runs as root
[07:56] <ciscosurfer> pbureau, or apache2
[07:57] <gb__> briancann:  u there?
[07:57] <pbureau> ciscosurfer - lol your answering me.... answer him ...
[07:57] <pbureau> chuckles
[07:57] <ubuntuftw> ciscosurfer: ok so my program is in /opt, if I make a file in ini.d, put in the file /opt/<program> start it will work?
[07:57] <briancann> gb__: im at root@ubuntu: / #
[07:57] <ubuntuftw> sudo /opt/<program> start
[07:57] <gb__> briancann:  did u type grub-install /dev/hda  ?
[07:57] <caxxarola> !list
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:57] <ciscosurfer> ubuntuftw, you can make a symlink to /etc/init.d from /opt and start it that way
[07:58] <pbureau> ubotu - why do you insist on using SUDO ??
[07:58] <briancann> oh
[07:58] <briancann> no
[07:58] <gb__> type
[07:58] <ubuntuftw> pbureau: because the program will not work without sudo
[07:58] <ubuntuftw> security thing I guess
[07:58] <Peecee> ubuntuftw : you dont need to use the sudo, everything run from init.d is run with elevated privliges
[07:58] <ubuntuftw> k
[07:58] <AnRkey> does anyone know how to get a promise fastrak raid card working in ubuntu?
[07:58] <ubuntuftw> pbureau: try running lampp as a normal user
[07:58] <ubuntuftw> you can't do it
[07:58] <ciscosurfer> Peecee, yes, but if you call an app while the sysytem is running already, you need to prepend with sudo
[07:59] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  ur right
[07:59] <Peecee> ciscosurfer : correct
[07:59] <briancann> gb__: root@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[07:59] <briancann> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[07:59] <Peecee> ciscosurfer : I'm not disputing that
[07:59] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  but like i said , services-admin can be used to manage that
[07:59] <ciscosurfer> Peecee, *bows*
[07:59] <pbureau> ubotu - if lampp is load in init.d sure it will
[07:59] <gb__> briancann:  u can take sudo out of it now
[07:59] <graft> briancann: where's root mount?
[07:59] <ciscosurfer> Peecee, *hopes Peecee see that I'm just poking fun*
[07:59] <LjL> pbureau, you're talking to the bot :P
[07:59] <ubuntuftw> gb__: servies-admin only has preloaded apps
[07:59] <gop> !version
[07:59] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:59] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  iwas tlaking bout LAMP
[07:59] <ubuntuftw> I can't find a place to add one
[08:00] <gb__> u gave that example
[08:00] <dalegribble> when i mount a samba share it automatically places an icon on my desktop, how do i change it to where it doesn't?
[08:00] <pbureau> LjL - yes I know... Ill go have a coffee and breath some fresh air
[08:00] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  r u in konsole now?
[08:00] <Cryoniq> How do I unpack compressed RAR files in Ubuntu?
[08:00] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Cryoniq about rar | Cryoniq, see the private message from Ubotu
[08:00] <ubuntuftw> gb__: yes
[08:00] <gop> !ati
[08:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:00] <ciscosurfer> Cryoniq, download unrar
[08:00] <briancann> gb__:  err
[08:00] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  sudo apt-get install rcconf
[08:00] <Cryoniq> :D
[08:00] <ubuntuftw> roger that
[08:01] <gop> !fios
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Peecee> !rar | Cryoniq
[08:01] <ubotu> Cryoniq: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:01] <gb__> briancann:  what error?
[08:01] <briancann> gb__: im chrooted into /mnt/c
[08:01] <gb__> ok
[08:01] <Cryoniq> lol of course.. my brain is like a squash today. Thanks :)
[08:01] <briancann> gb__: where my ubuntu partiton is
[08:01] <gb__> ok
[08:01] <ubuntuftw> ok
[08:01] <ubuntuftw> :P
[08:01] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  now run sudo rcconf
[08:02] <ciscosurfer> Cryoniq, who plays squash here *looks around*
[08:02] <Peecee> Cryoniq : at least its friday :)
[08:02] <gb__> briancann:  what error u get, with grub-install command?
[08:02] <ubuntuftw> yep it's running
[08:02] <ubuntuftw> gb__: *
[08:02] <ubuntuftw> don't see lampp in there though
[08:02] <StyXman> hi all. is autopackage in edgy? I can't find the package...
[08:02] <gop> what is that xwindows graphical thing that changes desktop or switches in  a cuba mode
[08:02] <gop> cube
[08:02] <ciscosurfer> StyXman, no
[08:03] <ubuntuftw> cuba mode....
[08:03] <gop> or when the window
[08:03] <ubuntuftw> interesting
[08:03] <fokuslee> gop compiz
[08:03] <gop> is minize it fire
[08:03] <ubuntuftw> does it look like fidel?
[08:03] <StyXman> ciscosurfer: and in no previous release?
[08:03] <ubuntuftw> hahaha
[08:03] <fokuslee> gop beryl
[08:03] <gop> !compiz
[08:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:03] <Mulle^> pbureau: It says: [17179835.5400000]  Buffer 1/0 error on device hdd, logical block 256772
[08:03] <rammbock1235> how can i mount a truecrypt container (ext2) with read+write permission? sth. like truecrypt -u --filesystem ext2 /media/hda1/test.tc /home/xyz/topsecret/ (does not work)
[08:03] <gop> fokuslee,  is beryl suggested to be isntall
[08:03] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  LAMP is?
[08:03] <pbureau> Mulle^ -  !! AHAH
[08:03] <fokuslee> gop For fire u want beryl
[08:03] <ubuntuftw> gb__: what now I have rcconf running
[08:03] <LjL> !enter
[08:03] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:03] <Mulle^> pbureau: what ahah? :S
[08:03] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  u can manage program from there
[08:03] <jatt> how can I obtain the list of installed packages sorted by Installed-Size? I want to see if I can delete the biggest packages to have more disk space available.
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> gb__: a third party collection of allmost all of the web server apps needed for a fully funtional server
[08:04] <gop> ! beryl
[08:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:04] <ciscosurfer> StyXman, don't think so, you'll have to go here to get it >> http://autopackage.org/  (it'll basically download for you (initially) when you try to download any of the apps with its extenstion)
[08:04] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  exactly , apacje, php, mysql
[08:04] <gb__> apache*
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> right
[08:04] <StyXman> ciscosurfer: I see. tx.
[08:04] <jatt> ok, I've just found
[08:04] <jatt> dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' "*" | sort -g | tail -n 100 > packages.txt
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> but it must be stored in /opt
[08:04] <gb__> ubuntuftw:  u will see those apps in rcconf
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> I don't
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> it's a precompiled package
[08:04] <ubuntuftw> they're not installed by hand
[08:05] <ciscosurfer> jatt: *claps*
[08:05] <gb__> umm
[08:05] <gop> fokuslee,  does berrly take up lot of ram
[08:05] <ubuntuftw> ah well
[08:05] <Mulle^> pbureau: I'm not a freenode users so i ant register :S
[08:05] <fokuslee> gop let me check
[08:05] <ubuntuftw> ok I put in init.d a file called lampp
[08:05] <ubuntuftw> and inside of it I put /opt/lampp/lampp start
[08:05] <Mulle^> pbureau: priv me a channel for more quiteness :D
[08:05] <zepp656> can anyone help out here lm-sensors worked fine on Dapper but when I upgraded to Edgy it does'nt work
[08:05] <briancann> gb__: grub-install says grub> "sudo grub-install /mnt/c" "Error 27: Unrecognized command"
[08:05] <ubuntuftw> hopefully that will work
[08:05] <fokuslee> gop  it takes up 35MB so i guess yes
[08:05] <sico> hello everyone
[08:06] <sascha_> fucka
[08:06] <ubuntuftw> yo
[08:06] <gop> fokuslee,  can it turned on and off
[08:06] <gb__> briancann:  type grub-install /dev/hda
[08:06] <ubuntuftw> *gasp*
[08:06] <ciscosurfer> briancann, use /dev/whatever instead
[08:06] <ubuntuftw> !language
[08:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:06] <gb__> skip sudo
[08:06] <Peecee> briancann : you need to install it to a device, not a mount point
[08:06] <ciscosurfer> gb__: faster than me!!
[08:06] <shatrat> zepp656: have you tried running "sensors-detect" and following the instructions in the script?
[08:06] <fokuslee> gop yes beryl can be turned off and u can use metacity instead
[08:06] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  no way sire :)
[08:06] <zepp656> yeh I've tried that
[08:06] <fokuslee> gop when u install u should make it a seperate session anywyas
[08:06] <gop> what metacity
[08:06] <aleksanteri> hey i want to get a C compiler but can't find one
[08:06] <fokuslee> !metacity
[08:06] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.16.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 385 kB, installed size 764 kB
[08:07] <ciscosurfer> gb__: that's what i though....mwuahahahahah
[08:07] <gop> fokuslee,  cool how does one sinstall it
[08:07] <gb__> aleksanteri: gcc?
[08:07] <ciscosurfer> thought
[08:07] <mjr> aleksanteri, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:07] <sico> gop: just use beryl-manager and you can easily switch wm's
[08:07] <shatrat> aleksanteri: sudo apt-get install build-essential and you'll have a compiler
[08:07] <aleksanteri> gb__: i'll try that
[08:07] <gop> sico,  cool how do I install beryl
[08:07] <fokuslee> gop depends on ur system
[08:07] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  true sir, i'm a newbie :)
[08:07] <aleksanteri> LjL: ?
[08:07] <fokuslee> gop what card do u have and what OS?
[08:07] <mabus> how come when I install fluxbox on ubuntu, the keybindings don't work in the .fluxbox/keys file
[08:07] <sico> sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[08:07] <shatrat> zepp656: What do you get for output from "sensors"?
[08:07] <gop> fokuslee,  Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[08:07] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  1 ? for u though
[08:07] <fokuslee> gop wut graphic card?
[08:07] <ciscosurfer> gb__: the new and the old alike are welcome here!
[08:07] <Random_Transit> hey, what's up with /etc/fstab?? it looks completely different in edgy....
[08:07] <LjL> aleksanteri: ?
[08:08] <gop> hmm ati
[08:08] <gb__> ciscosurfer: ty
[08:08] <Mulle^> pbureau: yes :D
[08:08] <gop> fokuslee,  but how do I find out what spefic ati card it is
[08:08] <Random_Transit> !fstab
[08:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:08] <ciscosurfer> gb__: proceed
[08:08] <Mulle^> pbureau: im not a register user i cant write to you
[08:08] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  do u see beryl in syanptic?
[08:08] <zepp656> cSorry, no chips were detected
[08:08] <gb__> i wana try it
[08:08] <aleksanteri> gb__: all right ^_^
[08:08] <fokuslee> gop do u have nvidia or ati
[08:08] <gb__> alex-weej:  good luck
[08:08] <gop> it radeon
[08:08] <gop> so it ati
[08:08] <Mulle^> pbureau: > Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:08] <alex-weej> gb__: ...
[08:08] <briancann> Peecee: how so
[08:09] <ciscosurfer> gb__: beryl will only show up in synaptic after you've placed the correct repo that points to beryl into your /etc/apt/sources.list and then reloaded (in synaptic) or sudo aptitude update (from the command line)
[08:09] <shatrat> Random_Transit: in edgy it uses UUIDs to identify partitions. I'm not sure what the benefit is.  I still use the old "/dev/hda3" type stuff when I add to it and it works
[08:09] <fokuslee> gop http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[08:09] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  can u please guide?
[08:09] <Random_Transit> shatrat, ok, good...i wasn't sure if using the old standards would work...
[08:09] <gb__> i did add all repos.
[08:10] <ciscosurfer> gb__: pm'ed you
[08:10] <gb__> on console
[08:10] <gb__> :(
[08:10] <gb__> dont see any
[08:10] <ciscosurfer> okay
[08:10] <fokuslee> gop read this one too http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_GC_Drivers#ATI
[08:11] <lola2> hi! i'm running fluxbox as wm- and fbdesk as desktop tool. but this doesnt work as promissed: fbdesk ignores the icons i give it in ~/.fluxbox/init or ~/.fluxbox/fbdesk and always loads the "default" icon. what can i do?
[08:11] <ciscosurfer> can you paste your sources.list to here >> !paste
[08:11] <graft> dont see any pms on console?
[08:11] <ciscosurfer> !paste
[08:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:11] <graft> what irc client are you using?
[08:11] <D0wN> Hey, does anyone have any advice when I use the install.exe prototype, on how to fix it from giving me "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell!", after rebooting and trying to boot into Ubuntu?
[08:11] <gb__> ciscosurfer:  ok
[08:11] <Random_Transit> can anyone here corroborate what shatrat was saying?? can i use the old configuration style for edgy's fstab file??
[08:11] <ciscosurfer> gb__: let me know the link to it when you are done
[08:11] <jatt> when removing packages (apt-get --purge remove package) the following is shown:
[08:11] <jatt> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[08:11] <gb__> ok
[08:11] <briancann> Peecee: why wont "grub-install /dev/hda@ work
[08:11] <jatt> why?
[08:12] <ciscosurfer> Random_Transit, shatrat: you *can* use the old style just fine
[08:12] <shatrat> I know
[08:12] <shatrat> He just doesnt trust me
[08:12] <Peecee> briancann : hmm? it should work.  Are you getting an error?
[08:12] <briancann> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[08:12] <fokuslee> braincann ur not in grub command
[08:12] <graft> what's this about an old/new fstab style?
[08:12] <fokuslee> braincann are u in ubunut?
[08:12] <briancann> i am
[08:12] <ciscosurfer> Random_Transit, you can try it out to see that we're not lying...the worst that will happen is you won't have access to that drive (but we're not lying) :-)
[08:13] <bXi> could someone help me?
[08:13] <aleksanteri> works ^_^
[08:13] <bXi> i install ubuntu some time ago
[08:13] <gb__> brb
[08:13] <Mat1> Hi. Can anyone here help me with hardware detection in 6.10? I'm trying to get my mouse to work with my laptop's dock.
[08:13] <bXi> then i reinstalled windows on another drive
[08:13] <Peecee> !enter
[08:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:13] <bXi> ubuntu is still intact but i need to fix my bootloader
[08:13] <ciscosurfer> graft: old style is what most users are used to...the newer one used UUIDs
[08:13] <gop> !metacity
[08:13] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.16.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 385 kB, installed size 764 kB
[08:13] <Peecee> briancann : did you ever instal the grub package?
[08:13] <graft> ciscosurfer: hrm... haven't heard of this... any good reading you can point to?
[08:14] <ciscosurfer> graft: sure, just a sec...
[08:14] <bXi> what would the commands for grub be if my linux is /dev/hdb and my windows (which i want to boot as well) is /dev/hda
[08:14] <briancann> Peecee: once or twice some time ago
[08:14] <regeya_> uuid-based fstab entries violate 'law of least surprise'
[08:14] <W^^harddd^^> I am sorry for my wrong pasting
[08:14] <Mat1> Is there a way to make Ubuntu detect all hardware again, like during the install, or do I have to reinstall the OS to do this?
[08:14] <AnkleBiter> is there any specific file format for GNOME themes, because i cant install this one
[08:14] <graft> bXi: which drive does it boot off first?
[08:14] <bXi> hda
[08:15] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:15] <graft> bXi: then install grub there
[08:15] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:15] <sico> !grub
[08:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:15] <ciscosurfer> graft: not at my bookmarks right now, but if you do a search on ubuntuforums for UUID, you'll see what I mean
[08:15] <W^^harddd^^> i searched google lot
[08:15] <bXi> so root (hd0) then setup (hd0,0) ?
[08:15] <W^^harddd^^> but not get any help
[08:15] <graft> ciscosurfer: coo
[08:15] <exs> Guys, what is "beagled-helper" and how do I get rid of it?.. it's taking 70% of my CPU and killing my laptop
[08:15] <Peecee> briancann : if the grub package is installed then grub-install /dev/devicename shouldnt error out
[08:15] <graft> bXi: grub-install /dev/hda
[08:15] <regeya> I can understand using uuids possibly...if you're in the habit of moving drives around...or you're weird and boot off of a removable drive that changes device ids every time...but I fail to see the point other than that
[08:16] <bXi> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[08:16] <bXi> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[08:16] <ciscosurfer> regeya: I pretty much agree with you
[08:16] <bXi> but its there
[08:16] <W^^harddd^^> i dont have any othe way of getting help
[08:16] <regeya> hooray, I have a supporter :->
[08:16] <graft> bXi: does it show up in dmesg? can you mount it?
[08:16] <W^^harddd^^> thats y i m asking here again n again
[08:16] <gop> fokuslee,  why do I get this error
[08:16] <gop> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:16] <gop>   libcairo2 libcairo2-dev
[08:16] <bXi> nevermind
[08:16] <gb__> ok back
[08:17] <AnkleBiter> why does the theme manager think i have a incorrect format and what is a correct format?
[08:17] <gb__> ciscosurfer,  http://pastebin.com/868064
[08:17] <Mat1> regeya: When i dock my laptop the hard drive changes from /dev/hda to /dev/hde.  So UUIDs are needed.
[08:17] <ciscosurfer> graft: but...the benefits of using a UUID instead are apparent
[08:17] <fokuslee> gop itz probably b/c of dependency
[08:17] <gu014_> hello, i have just added a 120 gb to my existing ubuntu edgy system. what is the best way to get this formated and mounted in ubuntu?
[08:17] <ciscosurfer> gb__: thanks...just a moment
[08:17] <gop> fokuslee,  how does one fix it
[08:17] <fokuslee> gop what were u trying to do?
[08:17] <regeya> Mat1: and for *you* it makes sense. :-)
[08:17] <AnkleBiter> !theme manager
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theme manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <gb__> ciscosurfer,  ty
[08:17] <shingalated> does someone magically know why my IMAP server isn't working?
[08:17] <LjL> gu014_: gparted is probably easiest for formatting
[08:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell gu014_ about fstab | gu014_, see the private message from Ubotu
[08:17] <gb__> briancann,  u there?
[08:17] <LjL> for mounting
[08:17] <gop> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[08:17] <gop>  Fu
[08:17] <regeya> wonder why the drive would change device ids when you dock...huh.
[08:18] <regeya> so the dock has the primary drive controller when you dock...?  how bizarre is that.
[08:18] <gop> fokuslee,  that what I been trying to do
[08:18] <regeya> that's almost a daily wtf
[08:18] <ciscosurfer> gb__: okay, you don't have any repos that point to beryl, so I'm going to suggest you take a look at this site (it will guide you throught the setup process)...Good Luck >> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:19] <SlackRassler> sup all
[08:19] <gb__> ok ty
[08:19] <Random_Transit> ok, so if the old style works fine....what's the benefit of using UUIDs?
[08:19] <W^^harddd^^> waiting for reply
[08:19] <SlackRassler> anybody know why my hostname isn't correct. I edited /etc/hosts and rebooted
[08:19] <gu014_> LjL: the drive is not listed in gparted. when i load gparted from command line it say /dev/hdb does not contain a vald partition table?
[08:19] <fokuslee> gop i m not familiar with radeon drivers but u can use apt-cache policy to choose an install version
[08:20] <fokuslee> gop if it is kept back itz probably ok
[08:20] <SlackRassler> hostname -f gives me unkown host...hostname gives me ubuntu.  while /etc/hosts is ubuntu1
[08:20] <Random_Transit> !uuid
[08:20] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:20] <gop> fokuslee,  I have a ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AS [Radeon 9600] "
[08:20] <briancann> gb__: you in the private chat
[08:20] <gop> fokuslee,  k
[08:20] <fokuslee> gop that means u just have an olderversion which is needed by some other software
[08:20] <gb__> briancann,  i did pm ya
[08:20] <gop> fokuslee,  oh
[08:20] <ciscosurfer> Random_Transit, here's a (very) quick rundown >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID
[08:20] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet
[08:20] <fokuslee> so its kept back
[08:20] <fokuslee> gop unless u get broken package error it should be ok
[08:20] <gb__> briancann,  it wont mount?
[08:21] <willy_> Hi!! I need some help with the partitions... I read that if I dont want to lose all my apps when I install another distro, to have the following partition tree: / /usr /home... Is that ok???
[08:21] <LjL> gu014_: normal, if it never was formatted. create one. use (c)fdisk if gparted can't do that (i'd be surprised tho)
[08:21] <W^^harddd^^> ...................
[08:21] <W^^harddd^^> ..................
[08:21] <briancann> you in the pm window now
[08:21] <LjL> W^^harddd^^: don't spam
[08:21] <gin_> somebody can give a good repositories to beryl on edgy disto
[08:21] <W^^harddd^^> then wat should i do
[08:21] <W^^harddd^^> if i m not getting any reponse
[08:21] <W^^harddd^^> :(
[08:21] <willy_> hello[08:21] <willy_> *???
[08:21] <gb__> briancann,  join #grub2
[08:22] <willy_> someone reads me??
[08:22] <ciscosurfer> willy_, check here >> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[08:22] <gu014_> LjL: is there anything i need to do in gparted for it to be visible. i receive the error "/dev/hdb - unrecognized disk label..
[08:22] <willy_> oks ciscosurfer
[08:22] <briancann> gb	i get grub> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[08:22] <briancann>  Error 27: Unrecognized command
[08:22] <gin_> somebody can give a good repositories to beryl on edgy distro
[08:22] <pike_> willy_: i often have one partition for /home that all my distro's use.  i mean / will have to be unique of course and you can use same swap partition as well as home
[08:22] <willy_> ciscosurfer: I already have / and /home in separate partitions
[08:22] <gb__> briancann,  the command is grub-install /dev/hda
[08:22] <ciscosurfer> briancann, you can see what your partition names are by issuing    sudo fdisk -l  (lower case L)
[08:23] <gb__> dont add sudo to it
[08:23] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:23] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet?
[08:23] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:23] <willy_> You didn't understand me: I want to "test" diferent distros without losing my apps
[08:23] <Moniker42> hi, how do i add resolutions? it's an nvidia card
[08:23] <leafw> any clues on how to disable touch-click on a trackpad ?
[08:23] <gb__> willy vmware
[08:23] <regeya> willy_ try testing other distributions on a different hard drive, vmware, qemu...
[08:24] <zylche> I need to refinance my home, can anyone give any good linux commands to do so?
[08:24] <ciscosurfer> willy_, I understand you...so when you go to install a new distro, don't overwrite the partition with /home and any other partition you've set aside that you want to keep
[08:24] <regeya> btw, never try to install xp under qemu on a 450MHz G4
[08:24] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:24] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:24] <leafw> zylche : man man
[08:24] <leafw> jk
[08:24] <willy_> ciscosurfer: but in /usr* are all the apps data and executables...
[08:24] <zylche> thanks :P
[08:24] <D0wN> When I try to boot up after finishing the Windows installation through the install.exe prototype, I get this message " /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". Any advice on how to fix it?
[08:24] <gb__> leafw,  man women , >> command not found
[08:24] <gb__> lol
[08:24] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet
[08:25] <regeya> 'Experience the ultimate in safety, security, and privacy' -- who wrote the copy for the XP installer
[08:25] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:25] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:25] <leafw> gb__ : there is no end to cli/bash fun
[08:25] <ciscosurfer> willy_, the _personal_ data for all apps that reflect your curretly logged in user are under /home/<username>/.
[08:25] <Random_Transit> ok, so my next question is....will the old style of fstab configuration be phased out completely as of feisty?
[08:25] <ciscosurfer> willy_, dot files (hidden files)
[08:25] <gb__> leafw,  lol
[08:25] <fokuslee> leafw u mean bash pain lol
[08:25] <regeya> if you want a tom green moment, 'man finger'
[08:26] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet
[08:26] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:26] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:26] <ciscosurfer> willy_, you'll need to reinstall the apps you want to use again
[08:26] <gb__> nite guys i'm out
[08:26] <ciscosurfer> willy_, or...don't overwrite the /usr partition when trying out a new distro :-)
[08:26] <gb__> ciscosurfer,  ty once again
[08:26] <ciscosurfer> gb__: sure :-0
[08:26] <W^^harddd^^> i got US Rebotic External modem and i cannot make it working .. these are my settings
[08:26] <W^^harddd^^> Administration -> Networking -> Modem Connection -> Setting for interface ppp0 . I gave ISP data and then username  n password . In modem settings -> Modem port -> /dev/ttyso dialup = pulses , volume loud . and in options every thing is uncheck . then I go to Modem Monitor but Activate option is disable.
[08:27] <leafw> I am always intrigged, though, on where to find documentation on xorg -related sections. Such as: InputDevice for driver synaptics (a touchpad in a ThinkPad). I'm always clueless, google throws the jungle
[08:27] <Moniker42> how do i add a resolution? using an nvidia card.
[08:27] <ciscosurfer> W^^harddd^^, go here >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:27] <willy_> ciscosurfer: already knew that... let me tell you mi problem: I have ubuntu edgy but want to install kubuntu dapper: the 1 thing I'll see on dapper is the message "There are 909409999999999999 pprograms that need update", I want to keep the apps that I have if something goes wrong and I have to reinstall
[08:27] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet
[08:28] <fokuslee> leafw:  ubuntu hack by oreilly covers it
[08:28] <ciscosurfer> willy_, just add the kubuntu-desktop package and switch DE's at the login screen
[08:28] <fokuslee> fokuslee but itz a book so u will have to buy or dl
[08:28] <willy_> ciscosurfer: I need dapper
[08:28] <pebblestone> I need help. I installed X11 on ubuntu server version and changed X11Forwarding to yes, but I still cannot open x11 apps. 1) the DISPLAY env isn't set when I login. 2) even I set it manually to :10.0, x11 forwarding still doesn't work. Could anyone help me out?
[08:28] <willy_> Im on edgy
[08:28] <leafw> fokuslee : you are right, and it's offered for free
[08:28] <leafw> fokuslee : thanks
[08:29] <ciscosurfer> willy_, so install a new partition with it
[08:29] <png> i want to change limit of open files to 20000 . ulimit -n  = 1024 default.   when i try "ulimit -n 20000"  i get this error "-bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"..    and output of sudo ulimit -n  is "sudo: ulimit: command not found". any ideas?
[08:29] <shingalated> Does anyone know why I can't get any email on my IMAP server, I can login okay through telnet
[08:29] <graft> willy_: why do you want kubuntu dapper?
[08:29] <briancann> could you pm me Peecee
[08:30] <kazuka> hey briancann
[08:30] <ciscosurfer> shingalated, without knowing more, i'm afraid it would be impossible to tell
[08:30] <willy_> ciscosurfer: hahahahha so easy to say... my root partition has 8.1 gigas... If I split it on 2 partitions to have 2 diferent distros; with 4.05 Gb each one will do the job??
[08:30] <kazuka> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[08:30] <riotkittie> willy_: yes
[08:30] <willy_> I think its too little disk space
[08:30] <willy_> yes??
[08:30] <briancann> kazuka: hey man
[08:30] <willy_> oks...
[08:30] <umut_ca>  I setup cgi.irc and my web is. www.cilginiz.net/cgiirc/irc.cgi users can enter to this room with all the same ip. when I take 1 person out . all of them goes out. I don't want like this wath I want is exackly http://chat.efnet.org/irc.cgi. cause here all the users get s in with their own ip. I want this sistem for my irc. cgi
[08:30] <umut_ca> ?
[08:31] <riotkittie> willy_: i have 3 OSes on 11gb...  :P
[08:31] <shingalated> ciscosurfer, what else do you need to know?  ahow can I get more information on my problem?
[08:31] <kazuka> my ubuntu crashes everytime i use it for long and i couldn't figure out what is wrong with it could anyone here help me out pls.
[08:31] <willy_> riotkittie: wich ones?? (just to have a clue)
[08:31] <willy_> :-
[08:31] <ciscosurfer> shingalated, not sure, don't use an IMAP server
[08:31] <Comrade-Sergei> im on the cd boot right now and it will not let me partition my hard disk any reasons why?
[08:31] <ciscosurfer> shingalated, sorry
[08:31] <riotkittie> on the other hand. it depends on your needs. look at your disk  space usage in edgy and guesstimate
[08:32] <pike_> willy_: ive been distupgrading for about year and a half i have a tone of dev packages for compiling etc and use 3.3 gigs for /  thats with everything on / but /home
[08:32] <graft> willy_: WHY do you want dapper instead of edgy?
[08:32] <ubuntuftw> does anyone here use proftpd?
[08:32] <willy_> :-O
[08:32] <riotkittie> willy_: at the moment > dapper, zenwalk linux and win 2k.  tho i am going to switch to dapper, slack 11, and uhh something else when i'm up to toying with partitions
[08:32] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, have you tried using the GParted LiveCD instead to partition?
[08:32] <ubuntuftw> willy: dapper is mucho faster
[08:32] <leafw> fokuslee : have you used qsynaptics? Shouldn't one be able to reproduce it's functionality by a terminal command?
[08:32] <graft> willy_: before you waste time repartitioning...
[08:32] <ubuntuftw> I mean
[08:32] <ubuntuftw> edgy******
[08:33] <ubuntuftw> edgy is much faster
[08:33] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i get the ubuntu to format the cd and work properly?
[08:33] <graft> whatever that means...
[08:33] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, try burning the ISO here, rebooting and partitioning that way >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:33] <willy_> graft: I dont like edgy... I used dapper for a couple of months... and edgy is still a beta... dapper is much more "stable"
[08:33] <ubuntuftw> change ur repos from dapper to edgy
[08:33] <graft> edgy is not a beta
[08:33] <graft> edgy is released
[08:33] <graft> feisty is a beta
[08:33] <fokuslee> leafs u mean aptitude and apt-get?
[08:33] <ubuntuftw> willy: edgy is not beta
[08:33] <bXi> there
[08:33] <bXi> back in my old ubuntu
[08:33] <fokuslee> leafw: u mean aptitude and apt-get?
[08:33] <graft> edgy has been out for months
[08:33] <bXi> now to fix it back up
[08:33] <Comrade-Sergei> whats that supposed to do ciscosurfer
[08:33] <ubuntuftw> DOES ANYONE HERE US PROFTPD?
[08:33] <ubuntuftw> USE*
[08:33] <briancann> kazuka: hey man could you help me
[08:34] <fokuslee> leafw: gsynaptic=synaptic
[08:34] <ubuntuftw> hey man can you help me
[08:34] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, people sometimes have better luck with it than using gparted from within the livecd of Ubuntu to partition...up to you though :-)
[08:34] <briancann> im trying to recover grub after a winxp install wiped out the boot loader
[08:34] <willy_> graft: ubuntuftw ups... my bad... I still love my 1 distro (ubuntu dapper) :-P
[08:34] <Comrade-Sergei> ciscosurfer i dont think i can download anything being that im am using the cd boot right now
[08:34] <leafw> fokuslee : I meant qsynaptics, the GUI utility for editing trackpad features such as tapping, scrolling, etc.
[08:34] <kazuka> my ubuntu crashes everytime i use it for long and i couldn't figure out what is wrong with it could anyone here help me out pls.
[08:34] <riotkittie> !grub | briancann
[08:34] <ubotu> briancann: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <briancann> in get my ubuntu partition back
[08:35] <graft> willy_: seriously, use edgy... it's a much better idea than making two partitions
[08:35] <fokuslee> leafw ok sorri i don't no about that
[08:35] <leafw> no prob
[08:35] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, you can...and if you have other partitions or external drives, you can copy that ISO from your desktop, after downloading it, to the other drive or partition, reboot and burn it that way :-)
[08:35] <willy_> graft: hahaha I reinstalled a couple of times just to "play"... I think its better for me to do that...
[08:36] <Comrade-Sergei> idk if i have any cdrws
[08:36] <willy_> and edgy doesn't convince me...
[08:36] <willy_> :-\
[08:36] <willy_> welll...
[08:36] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, can't help you there comrade
[08:36] <Comrade-Sergei> ciscosurfer how big is it?
[08:36] <fokuslee> briancann u just have to grub-install hd(0) (or wutever harddrive u need)
[08:36] <willy_> thanx for the help guys.... bytes!!!
[08:36] <ubuntuftw> WHY?!
[08:36] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, checking....
[08:36] <ubuntuftw> bye
[08:37] <Moniker42> how do i configure x?
[08:37] <ubuntuftw> anyone here have an FTP server?
[08:37] <koli> hello
[08:37] <Moniker42> setup screen resolutions and define hardware etc
[08:37] <koli> i have a problem
[08:37] <Comrade-Sergei> ciscosurfer i wonder if id be possible to boot from a usb drive
[08:37] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, 28MB
[08:37] <Comrade-Sergei> oh thats good
[08:37] <koli> i have installed beryl and axgl
[08:37] <MarcC> how do I change the keyring password? I changed my user pwd and now the keyring is still the same old one.
[08:37] <koli> and when i start beryl-manager, i get to the logon screen and i cannot enable the effects
[08:37] <riotkittie> Moniker42: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  .... or sudo editor-of-your-choice-here /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <ciscosurfer> Comrade-Sergei, you can, but it will take some time to configure your USB drive properly to boot the live ubuntu environment from it...it does work though
[08:37] <riotkittie> gksu if using a GUI editor
[08:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ciscosurfer ok how do you do it?
[08:38] <Comrade-Sergei> i have a 1 gb sandisk cruzer
[08:38] <graft> koli: what can't you enable?
[08:38] <koli> the beryl manager
[08:38] <graft> koli: what's it say?
[08:39] <koli> when i do the beryl-manager from the terminal
[08:39] <koli> the computer restart the x server
[08:39] <koli> and nothing happens
[08:39] <koli> no effects
[08:39] <gop> !berly
[08:39] <graft> nice
[08:39] <Hoag> Hey. is there a way to change the default location that the "Save Screenshot" tool uses?
[08:39] <koli> the diamond doesnt show on the taskbar
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <graft> koli: yeah, that's bad... it's not supposed to be restarting the x server
[08:39] <pike_> Hoag: no!
[08:40] <Random_Transit> !beryl
[08:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:40] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i get ubuntu to boot from a usb disk?
[08:40] <riotkittie> !usb
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Hoag> pike_: Aiieeee! Ah well, I'll just have to like.. click a few times or something CRAZY like that. Cheers. :P
[08:40] <Comrade-Sergei> !usb
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Random_Transit> Comrade-Sergei, well first...you may want to try using Xubuntu or Fluxbuntu...since they are more compact distributions
[08:41] <Comrade-Sergei> i have a 1 gb drive
[08:41] <Comrade-Sergei> i think itll fit
[08:41] <fokuslee> Comrade-Sergei its some work but doable here is the link
[08:41] <fokuslee> http://www.usbuntu.com/
[08:41] <Comrade-Sergei> oh god
[08:42] <xFlux> hmmm
[08:42] <koli> graft which topic????
[08:42] <xFlux> fluxbuntu....I like it
[08:42] <Random_Transit> 1gb isn't that much...that'll fill up pretty quick with a heavyweight environment like KDE or GNOME
[08:42] <graft> koli: ?
[08:42] <koli> cannot find solution
[08:42] <Comrade-Sergei> well i have a 2.5 gb one but its not all that reliable
[08:43] <Comrade-Sergei> it says ill need a 1gb stick so im good
[08:43] <evan_> is there a linux distro for ipod shuffle?
[08:43] <graft> my /usr/lib is currently 2GB
[08:44] <fokuslee> Comrade-Sergei: yeah i think the main point is to hav atleast 700mb as big as ur cd image
[08:44] <graft> evan_: wth are you going to do with linux on a shuffle?
[08:45] <png> does anyone know how can i set "ulimit -n to 20000"
[08:45] <evan_> graft well i can just plug it in and use it as an usb fladsh disk, i wont need strange itunes ore gnupod anymore
[08:45] <mabus> how can I install gedit without installing all of gnome
[08:46] <distro-tester> hello
[08:46] <xFlux> good luck with that one......its gtk based
[08:46] <Comrade-Sergei> evan_ just use amarok it has ipod support
[08:46] <pbureau> mabus -  I think it uses lib for gtk
[08:46] <xFlux> by the time you get what you need, you will have most of Gnome :)
[08:46] <jonah1980> hi guys, can anyone please help me out with this problem, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2999/
[08:46] <distro-tester> do u know how to run phillips SPC200NC webcam on kubuntu?
[08:47] <Comrade-Sergei> evan_ why would you need a linux for a shuffle?
[08:47] <pbureau> evan_ -  could you not just fdisk the shuffle and use it for files ? why need linux on it ?
[08:47] <graft> evan_: why can't you do that now? you can still just mount it as a usb drive...
[08:47] <distro-tester> i nead help to run this cam on kubuntu  phillips SPC200NC
[08:48] <pbureau> !repeat > distro-tester
[08:48] <distro-tester> i nead help to tun this cam phillips SPC200NC
[08:48] <distro-tester> on kubuntu
[08:48] <distro-tester> that
[08:49] <johan__> hello i edited .bashrc to change my prompt with the line: 'export PS1="\d \t \n\w >> "'
[08:49] <johan__> but i get the default
[08:49] <johan__> how can i permanently change my prompt
[08:49] <png> does anyone know how can i set "ulimit -n to 20000"
[08:49] <distro-tester> any one knows where i can get right drivers for it?
[08:50] <Aurvandill> !beryl
[08:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:50] <xFlux> ulimit 20000 ?
[08:50] <izte> is there daily builds available of edgy on the web?
[08:50] <xFlux> well...in your case `ulimit -n 20000` :)
[08:50] <izte> having trouble with jmicro (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502)
[08:50] <evan_> graft ipod uses databases
[08:51] <riotkittie> johan__: did you just change it?
[08:51] <graft> evan_: yeah, sure... for the player to work
[08:51] <graft> evan_: but if you just want to use it as a flash drive, you can ignore all that junk
[08:51] <TMH_> hello again
[08:51] <TMH_> i seem to have done something dreadful to gnome
[08:51] <D0wN> When I try to boot up after finishing the Windows installation through the install.exe prototype, I get this message " /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". Any advice on how to fix it?
[08:52] <graft> evan_: the player won't recognize the files that are on it, but it'll still be fine
[08:52] <fokuslee> Comrade-Sergei actually ubuntu never released a liveUSB version ever aye
[08:52] <TMH_> whenever i launch an application, it takes about 2 minutes to load
[08:52] <Byan> which vpn server should I use if I am trying to bring clients into a current network remotely?
[08:52] <evan_> graft ok ill takeit back, i want an usb flash drive wich can play music:P
[08:52] <fokuslee> Comrade-Sergei:  also they should really fix the broken usplash on 64bit machines
[08:52] <graft> evan_: otherwise use amarok or banshee or something, which'll sync with the db properly
[08:52] <TMH_> this is limited to applications that use graphics only
[08:52] <graft> i dunno why i know this crap, i've never even owned an ipod
[08:53] <MFen> ok, so.
[08:53] <MFen> let's say i have two interfaces on this computer that are configured with dhcp
[08:53] <MFen> both interfaces are receiving dns update information
[08:53] <MFen> one of those dns blocks is useless, the other one is real
[08:53] <Comrade-Sergei> fokuslee idk this is my 32 bit p4 machine i got 64 bit on my amd laptop
[08:53] <MFen> how do i configure dhclient or /etc/network/interfaces or something, to ignore the useless one and use only the real one?
[08:54] <izte> anyone use 965-chipsets and having trouble with jmicro ?
[08:54] <graft> MFen: why don't you kill one of the dhcp servers?
[08:54] <Spasticteapot> Help! I just made my linux install go boom!
[08:54] <MFen> graft: i'm not sure it's even possible, it's built into vmware somewhere
[08:54] <Spasticteapot> Thank gosh for dual-booting...I knew Windows was good for something!
[08:54] <evan_> graft will amarok auto detect the mp3?
[08:54] <MFen> graft: assuming i can't, what should i do?
[08:55] <Spasticteapot> I was mucking about in BUM, and I turned off GNOME. (I'm running Xubuntu.)
[08:55] <Comrade-Sergei> evan_ yes but you have to load gstreamer
[08:55] <graft> MFen: urm... well dhclient just broadcasts by default, so i dunno if you can do anything... whichever one answers the broadcast first wins
[08:55] <xFlux> Spasticteapot:  Linux go boom, followed by "I knew windows was good for something"....should tell you something
[08:55] <Spasticteapot> However, I can't do anything at all - I tried downloading Icewm, but it can't find xorg-server when I try to run it.
[08:55] <Comrade-Sergei> lawl
[08:55] <Spasticteapot> xFlux: You were a newbie once yourself.
[08:56] <xFlux> Spasticteapot:  I was never a newbie, I was a person with logical reasoning
[08:56] <bradley_> what is a good window manager that doesn't have black rectangles, opens windows in a reasonable manner, is light(ish) weight, and i can use my themes with?
[08:57] <Spasticteapot> xFlux: Well, I assume that XFCE is not GNOME.
[08:57] <Comrade-Sergei> kde?
[08:57] <graft> MFen: here's an idea... you can presumably configure the 'good' dhcp server?
[08:57] <riotkittie> Spasticteapot: erm. are you running a display manager ?
[08:57] <lukas_> bradley_: pekwm ?
[08:57] <bXi> is it normal that my mousecursor moves 2 pixels at a time?
[08:57] <saturisation> what do you need to restart when editing xorg.conf
[08:57] <riotkittie> i'm not sure what you mean by "turned off GNOME"
[08:57] <xFlux> Spasticteapot:  Your trying to run XFCE?
[08:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Spasticteapot: you just need to use update-rc.d, to get GDM to load at init again, is that what you mean?
[08:57] <battlesquid> i'm trying to install sun java5 plugin so i can get java in firefox, but when "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" it says "Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" how do i find out which package so i can get that package?
[08:58] <bradley_> lukas_, i haven't heard of it i will check it out.  do you know if it is available in the repositories?
[08:58] <Spastic_Teapot> Reason why I hate Windows #26 - craptastical wifi support.
[08:58] <Comrade-Sergei> battlesqiud i had that same problem
[08:58] <IntuitiveNipple> battlesquid: Install the main sun java package, it'll bring the plugin with it, i seem to recall
[08:58] <Spastic_Teapot> Anyway...does anyone know how to get XFCE to run again?
[08:58] <Comrade-Sergei> i fixed it by installing via synaptic
[08:59] <Comrade-Sergei> then installing the plugin via firefox
[08:59] <niteboater> hello all
[08:59] <riotkittie> Spasticteapot: try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start       ... if not gdm, xdm, perhaps. i assume your problem is a lack of display manager
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> you could do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin ?
[09:00] <pike_> Spastic_Teapot: xubuntu should use gdm
[09:00] <Spastic_Teapot> riotkittie: I'll try it.
[09:00] <riotkittie> then go back into BUM and turn display manager back on :p
[09:00] <Spastic_Teapot> I installed Fluxbox (hooray for apt-get!), and it said "XServer not found".
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Spastic_Teapot: to fix it into the init sequence, use update-rc.d
[09:01] <Spastic_Teapot> I need to write this stuff down.
[09:01] <battlesquid> IntuitiveNipple, which package are you referring to? sun-java5-jre? because i have that installed
[09:01] <Spastic_Teapot> IntuitiveNipple: What would that do?
[09:01] <battlesquid> Comrade-Sergei, i have tried that
[09:01] <riotkittie> ah. yeah. i ran into a XServer not found issue on my other distro.  starting gdm worked wonders. :P
[09:01] <IntuitiveNipple> battlesquid: Yes, you're right, the -bin package is a part of that.. I was looking at a quick list
[09:02] <battlesquid> IntuitiveNipple, it could be worth mentioning i have ubuntu 6.10 amd64 and firefox2
[09:02] <riotkittie> then i realized i was too lazy to config flux to my liking, and fled back to the safety of my ubuntu install
[09:02] <IntuitiveNipple> Spastic_Teapot: It'll add a service back into the init process so, for example, you can get GDM back to starting automatically
[09:02] <evan_> Comrade-Sergei im installinggstreamer now how should i load it?
[09:03] <Comrade-Sergei> it doesnt auto install?
[09:03] <Comrade-Sergei> it did for me..?
[09:03] <evan_> hmm imdonwloading plugins and stuff
[09:03] <Spastic_Teapot> IntuitiveNipple: So, I just enter the magic words "update-rc.d" and my machine will work again?
[09:03] <Comrade-Sergei> amarok just mystically started playing mp3 so i didnt question iot
[09:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Spastic_Teapot: not quite, you need to tell it which init script to add, and which runlevels
[09:04] <Jopie> I'm having issues with sharing my internet connection on a windows box to my ubuntu installation. It gets an IP address but fails to ping or do domain name lookups. Any ideas?
[09:04] <davmor2> evan quickest way is sudo apt-get install gstreeamer0.10*
[09:04] <battlesquid> Comrade-Sergei, what ubuntu do you have, amd64?
[09:04] <evan_> Comrade-Sergei k so i dont have to loadsomething manuelly?
[09:04] <saturisation> I installed the fglrx driver but it shows me it's running a different card (i have a ATI radeon)... what do i have to do to get it right?
[09:04] <Comrade-Sergei> battlesquid yea
[09:04] <Spastic_Teapot> Well, I'll try enabling GDM first.
[09:04] <Spastic_Teapot> Hopefully that will work.
[09:04] <Comrade-Sergei> evan_ i dont think so as soon as you loaded gstreamer it should work
[09:05] <Comrade-Sergei> battlesquid amd turion x2 64
[09:05] <Intangir> what was that app that scans an IP for open ports?
[09:05] <Jopie> nmapp
[09:05] <Intangir> and what were the args :) to do a full port scan
[09:05] <riotkittie> nmap ?
[09:05] <niteboater> hey all - I would like to try KDE on my Ubuntu 6.10 workstation, any advice ?
[09:05] <battlesquid> Comrade-Sergei, well then that could be the problem - there could perhaps be no sun-java5-plugin for amd64
[09:06] <battlesquid> i fear that is the reason ....
[09:06] <Intangir> ya nmap was the one
[09:06] <k1mosabe> hello!
[09:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Spastic_Teapot: All you should need is: sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[09:06] <Intangir> but what is the args? the usage seems to be so flexible i cant see the 1 small thing i want to do
[09:06] <graft> Jopie: what's your setup exactly? not sure i understand
[09:07] <Jopie> graft: I've got a wifi card in a windows PC, and I'm trying to share the connection with a ubuntu box over the wired network. The windows box has internet connection sharing enabled, and there's an IP handed to the ubuntu box but otherwise the link seems dead
[09:07] <riotkittie> the few times i've used nmap, ive done it through the nmpapfe ...  so i'm clueless as to the arguments
[09:07] <k1mosabe> Is there a place in ubuntu that sets the proxy for ALL programs.. as a default?
[09:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Always remember, man <command> is your friend
[09:08] <graft> Jopie: um... what DNS servers does it assign, if any?
[09:08] <graft> Jopie: and what's the gateway machine?
[09:08] <riotkittie> manpages <3   info </3
[09:08] <SecrethX> how do you empty the trash bin via terminal? ;o
[09:08] <IntuitiveNipple> k1mosabe: No, because proxies can be specific to protocols. You could use Squid as a transparent proxy though
[09:08] <pike_> SecrethX: rm ~/.Trash/*
[09:08] <riotkittie> rm ~/.Trash/*
[09:08] <Jopie> graft: what's the best way to check that?
[09:09] <SecrethX> of course, that figures :S
[09:09] <SecrethX> thanks
[09:09] <LjL> gu014_: i'm not really familiar with gparted since i mostly just use cfdisk, so perhaps try with that (you can still use gparted later for formatting)
[09:09] <graft> Jopie: cat /etc/resolv.conf, netstat -r
[09:10] <sico> how can i create a shortcut to a program so i can add - arguments?
[09:10] <k1mosabe> I cannot even update because it will not connect, or use terminal to wget packages
[09:10] <davmor2> niteboater two options dl the kubuntu live iso and burn to disc and run it live, or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop that will run kubuntu then at gdm just select if you want a kde session or gnome.
[09:10] <Jopie> graft: it says: destination - default - gateway - 192.168.0.1 Genmask - 0.0.0.0 Flags UG etc etc...
[09:11] <bwlang> sico: sounds like you want a little shell  script to add some arguments for you.  Maybe a bash alias does what you want too?
[09:11] <evan_> how can imake amarok detect my ipod shuffle?
[09:11] <niteboater> davmor2: thank you vm
[09:11] <IntuitiveNipple> k1mosabe: you can set a proxy for wget to use, i believe, as well as apt-get
[09:11] <Gorlist> Evening
[09:12] <Jopie> graft: the genmask seems wrong, windows says it's 255.255.255.0
[09:12] <graft> Jopie: um, what's the gateway for the windows machine?
[09:12] <niteboater> wow, it goes right at it.... my screen looks like something from 24
[09:12] <dromer_> atm I have a vcr hooked with scart/composite with a brooktree bt878 tvcard, this card is attached to a SB Live soundcard input internally. In _tvtime_ I have the image of the vcr and no sound. Before I had the vcr attached on the coax-input, also without sound (there for this approach over composite, but to no avail)
[09:12] <Gorlist> bef: sorted the problem in regards to login window resolution - need to edit the xorg config file for the according depth :)
[09:12] <IntuitiveNipple> k1mosabe: Do "man apt.conf" and read up on "http" section, about using Proxies
[09:13] <Gorlist> can anyone here recommend an easy Linux programing language for a none coder to write small applications?
[09:13] <Gorlist> or atleast learn
[09:13] <sico> bwlang, how would i do that?
[09:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Gorlist: how about writing shell scripts using bash?
[09:14] <bwlang> Gorlist: i like the mono project - c#... depends on the project you want to do.
[09:14] <Jopie> graft: it's gateway to the internet, as in for the wifi nic? it's 192.169.2.1
[09:14] <brendan_> hi, does anyone know of a graphical frontend to su that lets you enter the username and the password
[09:14] <Gorlist> well simple application for a live shop database
[09:14] <riotkittie> brendan_: gksu ?
[09:14] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i access the cd drive when i booted frm the cd drive
[09:14] <Gorlist> I mean ideally something along the lines of Basic, or php I suppose
[09:14] <evan_> hoe kan ik amarok mijn ipot laten detecteren?
[09:14] <dromer> atm I have a vcr hooked with scart/composite with a brooktree bt878 tvcard, this card is attached to a SB Live soundcard input internally. In _tvtime_ I have the image of the vcr and no sound. Before I had the vcr attached on the coax-input, also without sound (there for this approach over composite, but to no avail)
[09:15] <evan_> hahah
[09:15] <evan_> sorry
[09:15] <SecrethX> bwlang, C#?
[09:15] <eyeinthesky> good evening
[09:15] <graft> Jopie: hrm, so... your windows machine is the gateway for the ubuntu machine, yes? can you ping the outside world?
[09:15] <bwlang> sico: you're going to have to do some research... I've pointed you the right direction i think.   have a look in /etc/init.d for some examples of shell scripts
[09:15] <Jopie> on the ubuntu machine? No... The windows machine, yes, that's what I'm using right now...
[09:15] <aib> do I need to put something in my fstab for my usb hdd to be recognized? it's not coming up
[09:15] <aib> i don't see it in /dev
[09:16] <Gorlist> will have to take a look at the mono project
[09:16] <jay> welche muss ich heir nehmen? http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/
[09:16] <bwlang> SecrethX: did i stutter ;)
[09:16] <slyfox> I have created out of 80 gigs - 10 gigs for "/" 1 gig for "/swap" and ther rest 69gigs for "/home" all are different partitions, when I do fdisk -l, I get this http://pastebin.com/868118  and it does not look like what I have created, I cant even understand what it says. I am just a noob, pelase help.
[09:16] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i access the cd drive when i booted to the cd?
[09:16] <brendan_> riotkittie, that lets you specify the user name on the command line, i need to user to be able to enter it from the gui
[09:16] <SecrethX> bwlang, hmm how weird this may sound, I didnt know it was supported by linux ;o
[09:16] <graft> Jopie: but you can ping the windows machine
[09:17] <bwlang> SecrethX: the mono project implements most of  .net 1.1 and some of .net 2 - not just the language, but the virtual machine and the library too.
[09:17] <Jopie> graft: no nothing at all, and I can't ping the ubuntu machine from the windows machine either
[09:17] <SecrethX> bwlang, cool.. is it supported by something like Eclipse?
[09:18] <graft> Jopie: um, so does it actually get assigned an IP, or does it just time out and default to something?
[09:18] <bwlang> SecrethX: monodevelop is an ide, i think eclipse might have some kind of plugin too
[09:18] <SecrethX> bwlang, thanks for the info ;D
[09:18] <Jopie> graft: no it actually gets an Ip, 192.168.0.182 (that's not too random is it?)
[09:18] <Gorlist> right another quick question, when I firsted installed Ubuntu number of months ago and setup a shared folder for my MSHOME network I could access it fine with other windows meachines
[09:18] <graft> Jopie: run dhclient by hand and find out
[09:19] <Gorlist> since then its disappeared from the network
[09:19] <plagerism> Okay, I got a problem which I am hoping someone can help me with.  I have a very old machine(pentium 2) which acts as filestorage and a firewall for my other pcs.  The power went out while I was out, and when I returned I was greeted by an error 18(which is that the kernel is outisde the area supported by the bios)  So short of reinstalling, is there perhaps an easy method to move /boot to the beginning of the di
[09:19] <plagerism> sk?
[09:19] <Gorlist> and the same with a Xubuntu system installed fresh the other day
[09:19] <Gorlist> any suggestions?
[09:19] <Jopie> graft: It works fine, I get a new IP, .93
[09:20] <riotkittie> brendan_: bear with me as i am half asleep. what exactly is it you are trying to do again?
[09:20] <gop_> hey
[09:20] <gop_> I am getting this error
[09:20] <gop_> update-alternatives: unknown argument `config'
[09:20] <gop_> update-alternatives: unknown argument `config' I did this but then I get
[09:20] <gop_> update-alternatives: unknown argument `config'
[09:20] <gop_> sudo update-alternatives config Xorg
[09:20] <LjL> gop_, don't spam like that
[09:20] <gop_> sorry
[09:20] <brendan_> riotkittie, i'm trying to bring a a window that prompts a user for a username and password, and then runs a command as that user
[09:21] <riotkittie> brendan_:  ALT?+F2, then gksu <command> in the box that  pops up
[09:21] <LjL> gop_, you need two dashes --config
[09:21] <riotkittie> err wait.
[09:21] <LjL> not an m-dash, but two n-dashes
[09:21] <graft> Jopie: can you ping 192.168.0.1?
[09:22] <bwlang> plagerism: try booting from a utility like RIP (rescue is possible) and check your filesystems.  as far as moving /boot i think you're going to need to restore from backups.  But if it worked before i bet that's a spurious message
[09:22] <Comrade-Sergei> i want to make a usb disk boot what format should i use
[09:22] <riotkittie> ok i am going to crawl back into my coffee. ignore me :P
[09:22] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: its hard to boot from usb
[09:22] <Comrade-Sergei> im trying
[09:22] <Comrade-Sergei> what type of fs should i use?
[09:22] <gop_> LjL, No alternatives for Xorg
[09:22] <davmor2> riotkittie: consider yourself ignored
[09:23] <plagerism> bwlang, its booted up right now, however its booted off an older kernel, which is at the beginning of the disk.  With updates and the amount of files newer updates are deeper on the disk
[09:23] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: think of the usb disk as a local system disk
[09:23] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: nothing changes
[09:23] <LjL> gop_: what are you trying to do exactly?
[09:23] <bwlang> Comrade-Sergei: i got it working once with grub... i don't think the filesystem matters.
[09:23] <Jopie> graft: no luck there
[09:23] <Comrade-Sergei> so ext2?
[09:23] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: think of the usb disk as a local system disk
[09:23] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: nothing changes
[09:23] <warlock> Is there a way to edit all files in a specefic /home/dir/ which has the .conf exentsion, and add something on the end of a specefic line? ex. Edit all .conf files in /home/scripts/ and on the end of the line someline= add $test ?
[09:23] <bwlang> Comrade-Sergei: it wasn't very portable across different machines though.
[09:23] <Comrade-Sergei> ill go ntfs then thanks
[09:23] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: thats silly
[09:24] <Comrade-Sergei> i only want to do it once
[09:24] <graft> Jopie: bizarre. i'm unsure how your windows connection sharing dealy works, so i dunno what more to do...
[09:24] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: ubuntu can't write to ntfs
[09:24] <LjL> warlock: clever use of "find" and "xargs", and something such as sed or echo, would do that
[09:24] <Comrade-Sergei> ok then ext2?
[09:24] <gop_> quit
[09:24] <Jopie> graft: yeah, last time ubuntu 'got' it immediately...
[09:24] <gop_> graft,  barly won't run :(
[09:24] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: think of the usb disk as a local system disk
[09:24] <plagerism> bwlang, I think I may use gparted, and resize the partition then make a separate partition for boot at the beginning of the disk, but besides fstab and menu.list, is there any other files that may need to be changed because of this modification?
[09:24] <bwlang> plagerism: ah... well - it's certainly easiest to make a a backup and do a restore... but you might want to fool around with parted.  maybe you could also try a different bootloader
[09:24] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: nothing changes
[09:25] <LjL> warlock: find -name "*.conf" -print0 | xargs -n 1 sed -i "s/someline/someline\ntest/g"     for instance, not really tried
[09:26] <bwlang> plagerism: make a backup if you care about the data. if you update fstab i think that's all you'll need to do.
[09:26] <warlock> what would that do LjL ?
[09:27] <LjL> warlock: *assuming* it's correct, which is a big assumption, 1) find all files in the current directory, and subdirectories, with names matching *.conf   2) for each of these files, whenever the text "someline" appears, substitute it with "someline" followed by a newline followed by "test"
[09:27] <Comrade-Sergei> ok were usb ext3 now
[09:27] <Comrade-Sergei> cool
[09:28] <josue_m> hi, I need to mount a windows share to backup a large file from linux, smb seems to have a 2GB limit, any alternative or idea about this?
[09:28] <graft> warlock: test it out first, if it messes up all your conf files you'll be peeved
[09:28] <LjL> warlock: graft is definitely correct about it, as i said i didn't try it at all
[09:29] <warlock> LjL, I dont want it to edit sub dirs - I want find all .conf files in the current folder, then in the files it finds, there a line called myline=something,something, I want it to add ,something2 in the end of that line in all .conf files
[09:29] <bwlang> josue_m: i'm not sure but i don't think it's samba that has the 2g limit...  are you sure can create a file > 2g on your filesystem?
[09:29] <elyon225> OKay guys, I've got a problem.  I tried to install Windows XP on a new partition, but it told me it couldn't access the MBR (and thus couldn't install).  So I rebooted and found that GRUB had been overwritten.  I'm using a LiveCD right now.  So I guess my question is two-fold.  1) How do I get to install Windows, and 2) How can I get GRUB back?
[09:30] <josue_m> bwlang: yes, shared filesystem running on w2k3
[09:30] <LjL> warlock: for File in *.conf ; do sed -i "s/myline=.*$/myline=\1,something2/g" $File ; done
[09:30] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i get the .iso off the ubuntu disc?
[09:31] <riotkittie> elyon225: for the mbr, try runninc the recovery console from the xp install cd and doing a FIXMBR
[09:31] <LjL> warlock: for every file in the current directory with a name matching *.conf, whenever the text "myline=" appears, substitute it with "myline=" followed by whatever there was there until the end of the line, and add ",something2"
[09:31] <bwlang> elyon225: in the windows fdisk program (and in the recovery mode i think) there's some kind of fixmbr command (fdisk /mbr ) that will wipe out grub.  then to get grub back afterword you can just re-run the grub setup command from your boot cd
[09:31] <LjL> warlock: use quotation marks around $File, i forgot
[09:31] <riotkittie> !grub  | elyon225 - and this gor grub
[09:31] <ubotu> elyon225 - and this gor grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:31] <riotkittie> brb
[09:31] <bwlang> josue_m: oh - samba as a client... i'm not sure about that
[09:31] <josue_m> yes samba as a client
[09:31] <josue_m> any alternative?
[09:32] <elyon225> riotkittie, That would allow me to install Windows, then?
[09:32] <bwlang> josue_m: you could use an ftp server on windows...
[09:33] <josue_m> can I mount an ftp filesystem?
[09:33] <Comrade-Sergei> is vmlinuz the iso?
[09:33] <riotkittie> elyon225: yeah, it should - the fixmbr command in the recov console will ... "fix" the MBR, and if thats the only issue, you should be able to install
[09:33] <josue_m> the original data source is a tape so
[09:33] <LjL> josue_m: using FUSE and an appropriate driver, yes
[09:34] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: vmlinuz is the kernel image
[09:34] <LjL> josue_m: FUSE is included in Ubuntu, but you need to download and compile the FTP driver i think
[09:34] <warlock> nope, didnt work LjL :)
[09:34] <bwlang> josue_m: not that i know of... you'd have to use an ftp client.  are you using mount -t smbfs or smbclient?  i think both can go past 2gb as long as both the source and destination filesystems can support files of that size.
[09:34] <warlock> gonna try again though
[09:34] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat how do i get the entire iso off the cd
[09:34] <elyon225> riotkittie, and does Windows install give me the option to go to recovery console?
[09:34] <LjL> warlock: ok let me check it
[09:34] <elyon225> I can't remember
[09:34] <Comrade-Sergei> im working on http://www.usbuntu.com/
[09:34] <bwlang> josue_m: you could also try zipping the file into a archive with  multiple parts
[09:34] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: You want to make an iso out of the install CD or something?
[09:35] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat i think so
[09:35] <Comrade-Sergei> is it possible
[09:35] <warlock> LjL, care to join a channel and talk there with me? As im not registered in this network
[09:35] <Comrade-Sergei> i need it to put on my usb disk to boot to it
[09:35] <josue_m> bwlang tape content is about 40GB and the box that has the tape drive does not have space on disk,
[09:35] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Sure.  Did you lose the .iso you burned it from or something?  You can make a new ISO out of the CD using something like GnomeBaker or K3B
[09:35] <LjL> warlock: oh right i forgot something quite essential -    for File in *.conf ; do sed -i "s/myline=\(.*\)$/myline=\1,something2/g" "$File" ; done
[09:36] <LjL> warlock: can use #ubuntu-classroom for that
[09:36] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat um idk i have a factory made ubuntu disc
[09:36] <riotkittie> elyon225: which version of xp? i'm only familiar with pro, and its definitely an option there, once its loaded everything it needs to
[09:36] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Do you just want to make a copy? You can do that too
[09:36] <elyon225> riotkittie, Yeah, it's pro.  Okay, I'll give it a shot.
[09:36] <Comrade-Sergei> ti says i need to use the downloaded iso but if i already have the disc....
[09:36] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: what says?
[09:37] <Comrade-Sergei> usbuntu.com
[09:37] <Comrade-Sergei> im following that guide to boot to usb
[09:37] <v> hi, is there something equivalent to a net-install iso for ubuntu? I'm looking for as small as possible an iso to download quickly and install.
[09:37] <bwlang> josue_m: if the tape drive is on linux you could read it in 2 gig chunks and put them back together
[09:37] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Oh I see.  Ok do you have GnomeBaker or K3B or something?  What you need to do is Copy the Data CD and instead of burning just save as .iso
[09:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ive never heard of either of them shatrat so i assume no
[09:38] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat do they come standard with dapper?
[09:38] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Well go digging around in your Applications menu and look for a disk burning application.  I dont know about dapper.
[09:39] <Comrade-Sergei> im going to upgrade to edgy once i install this
[09:39] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat how about cd/dvd creater
[09:39] <v> anyone?
[09:39] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Sounds like it should be able to do what you want
[09:40] <Comrade-Sergei> ok um what was it im trying to do now?
[09:40] <shatrat> v: there is a minimal CD which downloads most stuff from online
[09:40] <v> shatrat: great, do you know where i can get it? i'm having trouble finding such on the mirrors
[09:40] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: look for a copy CD tool and use it to save to .iso
[09:40] <shatrat> moent
[09:40] <Comrade-Sergei> oh
[09:40] <Alaz> Hi, can anyone help Ubuntu newbie? I cam from Debian world and installed Ubuntu server. After that I saw that so popular packages like mc, phpmyadmin, apt-show-versions are available only in universe unsupported repository:( Why is that? Is that normal in Ubuntu?
[09:41] <Alaz> there is nothing like that in debian
[09:41] <HymnToLife> !universe | Alaz
[09:41] <eigenlambda> everything is in universe
[09:41] <ubotu> Alaz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:41] <eigenlambda> tremulous is in universe
[09:42] <HymnToLife> Alaz, think about it like main, contrib and non-free in Debian
[09:42] <HymnToLife> just they're not enabled by default
[09:42] <eigenlambda> universe is NOT non-free
[09:42] <eigenlambda> multiverse is non-free
[09:42] <HymnToLife> indeed
[09:43] <HymnToLife> so in Ubuntu it would be main, universe and multiverse
[09:43] <v> does anyone know if there's a netinst or minimal ubuntu install image?
[09:43] <JordiGH> I'm trying to install an nVidia Geforce 7600 PCI express. Can it do dual monitors?
[09:43] <HymnToLife> !xinerama
[09:43] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:43] <v> and where to get it
[09:43] <sharperguy> what program could i use to mass rename mp3 files by their ID3 tag and subfolder them?
[09:43] <HymnToLife> v, there is no netinst of Ubuntu - that I know of
[09:44] <Alaz> Hymn, I know that they are not enabled but I didn't expected to find mc and phpmyadmin in not supporter repository without any security fixes:(
[09:44] <JordiGH> Thx, HymnToLife. I guess the nvidia blob is also the thing to install?
[09:44] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat it says file image creation failed there is no space left on device
[09:44] <Comrade-Sergei> but its 1 gb
[09:44] <v> HymnToLife: ok, thanks. wish there was!
[09:44] <shatrat> v: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ I think that is what you're looking for....not sure though.
[09:44] <Moniker42> how do i dual boot windows vista and ubuntu edgy?
[09:44] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Do you have no space on your hard drive?
[09:44] <HymnToLife> Alaz, there _are_ security fixes for Universe packages
[09:45] <HymnToLife> look the last few lines of your sources.list
[09:45] <shatrat> !tell Moniker42 about dual boot
[09:45] <HymnToLife> Moniker42, the same way you dual-boot XP and Ubuntu
[09:45] <shatrat> rats
[09:45] <Zaggynl> !dualboot > Moniker42
[09:45] <bwlang> josue_m: one more idea.. .you could try mount -t cifs
[09:45] <JordiGH> HymnToLife: It appears that I have two different cards and each monitor is on a different card.
[09:46] <host_> is there a quickkey to open a terminal?
[09:46] <shingalate1> Does anyone know why courier IMAP isn't showing new messages?  I can log on using telnet, and I can authenticate properly, but when I send messages my inbox remains empty.
[09:46] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat how do i make a folder thats bigger than 438 MB
[09:46] <bwlang> Moniker42: i'm pretty sure this is info on the ubuntu wiki about that... just google it
[09:46] <Comrade-Sergei> it wont let me make one bigger
[09:47] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Sounds like you're out of space on your hard drive
[09:47] <Comrade-Sergei> im using the cd boot
[09:47] <Moniker42> hymmtolife: i thought so to but vista works until i install ubuntu - then when i select vista on the grub screen i get a blank screen
[09:47] <Alaz> Hymn, sorry for that:) But there are no updates for these packages in this repository, right?:)
[09:47] <shingalate1> Does anyone know why courier IMAP isn't showing new messages?  I can log on using telnet, and I can authenticate properly, but when I send messages my inbox remains empty.
[09:48] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Oh.  you'll have to mount something writeable that has 700 mb of free space in order to create that .iso
[09:48] <HymnToLife> Alaz, of course there are updates
[09:48] <Alaz> Hymn, what can you say about this?
[09:48] <Alaz> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[09:48] <Alaz> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[09:48] <Alaz> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[09:48] <Alaz> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[09:48] <Alaz> ## team.
[09:49] <rmanda> can any1 help me get wmv and mpg files playing?
[09:49] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat lets go back to my original problem when i try to install to my hdd it goes to 15% then gives me an error that says it cannot create a swap space
[09:49] <shatrat> the ubuntu security team doesnt update it, but the people who maintain it do
[09:49] <shingalate1> rmanda automatix can install the necessary codecs for proprietary formats
[09:49] <erUSUL> !paste | Alaz
[09:49] <ubotu> Alaz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Sounds like a partitioning problem.
[09:50] <erUSUL> !mp3 | rmanda
[09:50] <ubotu> rmanda: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <Alaz> sorry guys, I'm very new in here, only first time
[09:50] <shatrat> we save the savage beatings for the second time, dont worry
[09:50] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat yea how do i fix it
[09:50] <rmanda> where do i download automatix
[09:51] <shingalate1> www.automatix.com I think but you can google it
[09:51] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: Do you have a working hard drive installed?  Have you partitioned it on your own?
[09:51] <shatrat> rmanda: getautomatix.com I believe
[09:51] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat yea its a laptop hdd but it worked before....
[09:51] <shingalate1> yeah that's it
[09:51] <shingalate1> Does anyone know why courier IMAP isn't showing new messages?  I can log on using telnet, and I can authenticate properly, but when I send messages my inbox remains empty.
[09:52] <rmanda> shatrat, ok i got it
[09:52] <intercool> Anyone installed and tested ubuntu on a core duo 2 t7200 2ghz cpu ?
[09:52] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: You are using the LiveCD right?  You can try and set up the partitioning yourself using System -> Administration -> Gparted or Gnome Partition Editor
[09:52] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat i did it once before but i screwed up ubuntu up so much the first time i decided to reinstall
[09:52] <Comrade-Sergei> um ill try
[09:52] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: if you're reinstalling though I think it should show you a decent partition setup
[09:53] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat it says its empty and unpartitioned
[09:53] <Comrade-Sergei> ive already deleted it but it wont re partition
[09:53] <_archangel> do you guys know of a freebsd help irc chat room ?
[09:53] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: try to create a new partition on it?
[09:54] <LjL> !automatix | rmanda
[09:54] <ubotu> rmanda: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:54] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat it says "error while setting the new disc label"
[09:54] <rmanda> oops too late
[09:54] <Amalia> anyone know why I can't seem to get sound to work?
[09:54] <rmanda> is ubotu a bot?
[09:54] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: I'm not sure what to try. Sounds like it may even be a hardware problem.
[09:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rmanda about bot | rmanda, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:55] <shingalate1> rmanda, should be fine if your just installing codecs
[09:55] <someothernick> _archangel, ##freebsd
[09:55] <LjL> shingalate1: i doubt it
[09:55] <LjL> !codecs
[09:55] <rmanda> ok
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <juano__> rmanda: yes Ubotu is a bot
[09:55] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat i hope not is there another way to do this?
[09:55] <rmanda> haha i was waiting for it go "i am not a bot"
[09:55] <bwlang> Amalia: nobody could possibly know if you don't provide more information... maybe the volume is too low?
[09:55] <The-Compiler> Hellop
[09:56] <The-Compiler> - p
[09:56] <ikonia> hello
[09:56] <Comrade-Sergei> hello florian
[09:56] <shingalate1> Does anyone know why courier IMAP isn't showing new messages?  I can log on using telnet, and I can authenticate properly, but when I send messages my inbox remains empty.
[09:56] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: To create partitions?  There are other programs out there.  There is a special gparted live CD and some partitioning stuff that runs from a floppy but I guess you cant really download and use those things, you need a solution from the live CD?
[09:56] <ikonia> shingalate1: check the log
[09:56] <LjL> rmanda: it's a bot lacking sarcasm
[09:56] <Comrade-Sergei> shatrat i can probably download to a floppy
[09:57] <Amalia> no, I tried installing ALSA but get this error:  "no acceptable C compiler in $PATH"
[09:57] <shatrat> Anybody know a good partitioning program for a bootable floppy?
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> msfdisk lol
[09:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Amalia about build-essential | Amalia, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:57] <ikonia> shatrat: why do you need to partition a floppy
[09:57] <shingalate1> ikona, mail.log?
[09:57] <shatrat> Now youre just being difficult
[09:57] <bwlang> shingalate1: you must configure your mail transport (eg exim) to deliver mail.  I use cyrus - so i have to configure exim to use cyrdeliver
[09:57] <ikonia> shingalate1: no the mta log
[09:57] <LjL> !smartbootmanager | shatrat, you mean like this, or what?
[09:57] <ubotu> shatrat, you mean like this, or what?: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:57] <shingalate1> bwlang, courier isn't a mta?
[09:57] <shatrat> Comrade-Sergei: If that works for you go for it.  All you need to do is get some partitions on the disk at this point, worry about formatting them from the liveCd
[09:58] <ikonia> shingalate1: it has an mta comonent
[09:58] <LjL> shatrat, err i mean the last link of that
[09:58] <bwlang> shingalate1: i don't know... but the bit that handles imap is a different animal from the bit that talks smtp
[09:58] <shatrat> LjL: Comrade-Sergei is having trouble partitioning his hard drive with the gparted on the liveCD
[09:59] <shingalate1> btlang, my smtp is working fine
[09:59] <Comrade-Sergei> yea
[09:59] <LjL> shatrat: oh, so it's a partitioning program *on* a floppy that you need
[09:59] <josue_m> I'm trying to view the content of a drive with "cpio -it -I /dev/st0 "  and sessions hangs, any idea?
[09:59] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL no on the hdd
[09:59] <rmanda> ahh that worked like a charm
[09:59] <rmanda> thanks guys
[09:59] <ikonia> josue_m: to you know whats on the tape ?
[09:59] <shatrat> prepositions are an evolutionary dead end imo.
[09:59] <LjL> erm i'm missing something
[09:59] <LjL> ok, you need to partition the HD, but for some reason cannot do it using the gparted live CD, and you need something on a floppy. sounds right?
[10:00] <josue_m> ikonia: is supposed to be a backup done with cpio
[10:00] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL i need to partiton my hdd and gnome partioion manager wont lete me
[10:00] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL yes
[10:00] <ikonia> josue_m: is your tape rewound/at the right fsf point
[10:00] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: why won't it let you anyway?
[10:00] <glombool> !sound
[10:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:01] <pbureau> !players
[10:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:01] <Comrade-Sergei> it gets an error that it cannot create a swap space one way and the other is it cannot creart a lable
[10:01] <josue_m> ikonia: not sure, how can that be done
[10:01] <bwlang> shingalate1: well... it doesn't sound like it's delivering mail to the imap server...  - i don't know anything about courier - maybe somebody else does. maybe it's a maildir issue?
[10:01] <ikonia> josue_m: use mt to rewind the tape, and mt to move around the fsf's
[10:01] <host_> is there a quickkey to open a terminal?
[10:01] <ikonia> host_: set one up
[10:01] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: wait, is that GParted or the Ubuntu installer? "cannot create swap space" sounds like the Ubuntu installer
[10:01] <host_> ikonia, how doyou do that?
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL hold on ill tell you
[10:02] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: is that HD already partitioned, or is it blank?
[10:02] <ikonia> host_: research key bindings
[10:02] <host_> ikonia, nvm, I see an option for keyboard shortcuts
[10:02] <ardchoille42> host_, You can set up a kb shortcut in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:02] <ikonia> cool
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> gparted is the label one
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL and its blank now
[10:03] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei, you could try using cfdisk
[10:03] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL ok how do i access it
[10:03] <shingalate1> bwlang, it delivers mail to external addresses, but I am not receiving anything
[10:03] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: it's a console program. type "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdsomething" (hda, probably, if it's the only IDE drive you have)
[10:04] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: at any rate, you're trying to install Ubuntu on that drive?
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL                      FATAL ERROR: Cannot read disk drive
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:04] <ikonia> LjL: I thought he was trying to install to a usb device
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei> and yes
[10:05] <LjL> ok let get this straight
[10:05] <LjL> what the heck are you trying to do?
[10:05] <josue_m> ikonia:  did mt -f /dev/st0 rewind   and cpio -it still hangs
[10:05] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL install ubuntu from a disc
[10:05] <Cryoniq> !mpeg4
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpeg4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: elaborate.
[10:05] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL that was the root thing
[10:05] <Cryoniq> !avi
[10:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:05] <ikonia> josue_m: to you know the name of the file on the tape
[10:05] <bwlang> shingalate1: maybe there's a courier channel?  i'm not going to be much help.
[10:06] <josue_m> yes I have the name the file I want
[10:06] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: ok, you're trying to install Ubuntu from a CD to... a HD? or a USB drive?
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL then i tried to repartition it deleted the old one then it wouldnt let me repartition
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL a hdd now
[10:06] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei, i can't follow you if you don't tell me the whole story. repartition what? what old one? what wouldn't let?
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> repartition the hdd
[10:07] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: normally, someone installing Ubuntu just uses the Ubuntu installer to partition, not gparted
[10:07] <Comrade-Sergei> the hdd wont let me do it
[10:07] <josue_m> ikonia: should I try cpio -icvdmu directly?
[10:07] <The-Compiler> LjL: The Ubuntu-Installer uses gParted
[10:07] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: installing ubuntu is simple - when you say things like "won't let me do it" thats rubbish for us, tell us the exact error
[10:07] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: and what do USB devices have to do with this?
[10:07] <LjL> The-Compiler: whatever
[10:07] <ikonia> josue_m: if you know the file name its easier
[10:07] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL i tried to put the disc on the usb and boot to that
[10:08] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: why? doesn't it boot straight from the CD?
[10:08] <LjL> when you say "disc" you mean the CD right?
[10:08] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL yes and im using it now
[10:09] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: hm ok, but if you just use the normal Ubuntu installer - not gparted manually - you get that swap error?
[10:09] <Comrade-Sergei> yes
[10:09] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: or, if you prefer, *are* you using gparted *explicitly* or not?
[10:09] <Comrade-Sergei> it tried both and got didderent errors
[10:09] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: is the HD the primary master?
[10:09] <Comrade-Sergei> want a screen shot
[10:10] <Comrade-Sergei> the only one its a laptop drive with a converter cause im chear
[10:10] <ikonia> not really
[10:10] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: just tell us the errors exactly
[10:10] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: yes, the errors please. a screenshot will do, or paste if you can
[10:10] <Comrade-Sergei> ok hold on
[10:10] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: and being a primary master doesn't mean it's not the only drive
[10:10] <xf> Could someone please take a look at my iptables? Here is my iptables script...http://www.nullsense.com/iptables.txt   ... Why can I not ssh to that box now? :)
[10:10] <ikonia> why do you refuse to give us the errors and keep saying things like "won't work"
[10:11] <ikonia> xf /join #netfilter for iptables help
[10:11] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: i just need to know where it is on the IDE bus. being a laptop, that's different
[10:11] <xf> THANKS
[10:11] <Amalia> I have no idea what the problem is. I'm not even sure if ALSA is what I need. I just installed Ubuntu, and I went and got flashplayer, but still can't get my audio working.
[10:11] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL its a laptop hdd in a desktop
[10:11] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: is it the only drive in the pc
[10:11] <bwlang> xf: maybe you should try something like shorewall... it abstracts away lots of that trickiness
[10:11] <Comrade-Sergei> yes
[10:12] <ikonia> right
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> other than my usb disc
[10:12] <ikonia> is there any data on this disk ?
[10:12] <ikonia> ughhhh
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> no
[10:12] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: remove the usb disk
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> i can unoplug it
[10:12] <Comrade-Sergei> ok
[10:12] <ikonia> remove all disk apart from the one you want
[10:12] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: yes please. also, the word "disc" is a bit confusing ;)
[10:13] <opapo_> does anyone know of a good channel for AMANDA support?
[10:13] <Comrade-Sergei> ok i got a screenshot of the prob hold on let me host
[10:13] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: please also do a "ls /dev/hd*" and paste the output
[10:14] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd
[10:14] <Comrade-Sergei> ls: /dev/hd: No such file or directory
[10:14] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei, i said /dev/hd*
[10:14] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: can you read
[10:14] <ikonia> pay attention if you want help
[10:14] <ikonia> your really becoming annoying not listening
[10:14] <Comrade-Sergei> oh srry
[10:14] <Comrade-Sergei> heres the screenshot
[10:15] <Comrade-Sergei> http://i18.tinypic.com/2po42si.png
[10:15] <ikonia> you;ve not laid out a swap partition
[10:15] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ "ls /dev/hda
[10:15] <Comrade-Sergei> >
[10:16] <LjL> ikonia: i suppose it would be the installer's fault, given gparted doesn't quite seem to be working either, if i got that right
[10:16] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ "ls /dev/hda
[10:16] <Comrade-Sergei> >
[10:16] <Comrade-Sergei> idk if i did that right
[10:16] <SecrethX> omg im stupid..
[10:16] <ikonia> LjL: nah at gparted if he's not marked a partition as swap it won't "create" swap
[10:16] <LjL> ikonia: and if you look at the screenshot, it does say hda, but cfdisk /dev/hda says it cannot read from it apparently
[10:16] <SecrethX> I just found out I have 100g unallocated HDD
[10:16] <LjL> ikonia, are you talking about actual gparted or the gparted section in the installer?
[10:16] <grogoreo> phpbb
[10:16] <ikonia> gparted section of the installer
[10:17] <shatrat> SecrethX: its like christmas
[10:17] <LjL> ikonia: the latter does create a swap partition automatically, if you don't tell it "i'm wise and i'll do it manually"
[10:17] <n33o> ??? why can the other development communities be like this channel????
[10:17] <LjL> ikonia: still anyway there's the cfdisk to explain
[10:17] <adamonline45> SecrethX: Score!  I just found 2 150GB raptors for $100usd each!
[10:17] <n33o> It sucks.. Joomla isnt as helpful
[10:17] <ikonia> not if he's assigned one wapping space
[10:17] <SecrethX> shatrat, I wish it could happen every day ;O
[10:17] <SecrethX> lol adamonline45
[10:17] <SecrethX> nice ;p
[10:17] <n33o> can anyone help me with a code problem.. leet ubuntu user people
[10:17] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: close the installer and gparted and whatever of that stuff you have open... type again "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda" - take care to type it correctly
[10:17] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: show me the output of "fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[10:17] <adamonline45> hehheh not as nice as a free 100GB =P
[10:17] <SecrethX> brb phone
[10:18] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: oh yeah i meant "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" too, nevermind cfdisk... sorry
[10:18] <Comrade-Sergei> ok guys how should i make that swap space?
[10:18] <Amalia> I got it to work... I needed to unmute something in the alsamixer
[10:18] <LjL> ikonia: i kept saying cfdisk, i meant fdisk
[10:18] <ikonia> ;)
[10:18] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: show me the output of "fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[10:18] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: do what we asked please
[10:18] <pbureau> adamonline45- man you need to visit frys electronics I beleive I saw a 250GB the other day on special (maxtor) for 109.99
[10:18] <ikonia> LjL: fancy a bet ;)
[10:18] <hammackj> anyone know anything about the livecd?
[10:18] <ikonia> hammackj: like what
[10:18] <Comrade-Sergei> I got nothing back
[10:18] <shatrat> pbureau: thats not a raptor though
[10:19] <hammackj> ikonia: how to disable auto login
[10:19] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: nothing at all
[10:19] <ikonia> hammackj: you can't
[10:19] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:19] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:19] <LjL> ikonia: not really, right now i'm not sure of anything, he's confused me too much =)
[10:19] <pbureau> shatrat- okay but for a desktop how much of a difference will it make ? speed wize..>?
[10:19] <shatrat> pbureau: hes talking about 10k RPM drives.
[10:19] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[10:19] <host_> what package do I need to install to have cvs supporn?
[10:19] <ikonia> host_: client or server
[10:19] <shatrat> pbureau: very noticeable on boot, loading large programs, games, et cetera
[10:19] <Comrade-Sergei> ikonia same thing
[10:20] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: ls -la /dev/hda
[10:20] <LjL> ikonia, i really think it's just that gparted doesn't like drives that have no partition table... i think someone had this before today
[10:20] <host_> ikonia, client
[10:20] <eternal_p> good afternoon all...quick question...I have Beryl on my new 6.1 install...everything is perfect, except it seems to be putting active windows in the background, ie with firefox bookmakrs, every level sits behind the level before it...how can I fix this?  thanks!
[10:20] <ikonia> host_: just cvs
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -la /dev/hda
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 0 2007-01-26 19:16 /dev/hda
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:20] <ikonia> LjL: looks like it can't even see the drives
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> yay
[10:20] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[10:20] <shatrat> eternal_p: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:21] <eternal_p> thanks
[10:21] <hammackj> ikonia: why is it not possible, I am using reconstructor to edit the system just cant find the scripts to remove auto login
[10:21] <shatrat> eternal_p: I think you might need to adjust th elevel of focus stealing prevention in the beryl settings though.
[10:21] <sico> Can anyone help me? I am trying to run a game (Quake 1) and am using the ezquake and the fuhquake clients.  Fuhquake works fine, but Ezquake has choppy sound.  Any ideas?
[10:21] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[10:21] <Comrade-Sergei> Unable to read /dev/hda
[10:21] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:21] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:21] <Comrade-Sergei> its not sata
[10:21] <stdin> ^^ -l
[10:21] <ikonia> hammackj: if your building your own cd you need to remove the auto login function from the gnome config
[10:22] <AnRkey> is there a HCL for ubuntu?
[10:22] <eternal_p> shatrat: I was playing with that...just not too sure which way to adjust it
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> Unable to open /dev/sda
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:22] <fokuslee>        -exec command ;
[10:22] <fokuslee>               Execute command; true if 0 status is  returned.   All  following
[10:22] <fokuslee>               arguments to find are taken to be arguments to the command until
[10:22] <fokuslee>               an argument consisting of ; is encountered.
[10:22] <stdin> Comrade-Sergei: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:22] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: your screwed - it can't see your disks
[10:22] <fokuslee> can someone plz explain the argument consisting of
[10:22] <AnRkey> i am looking at buying an adaptec 2400A raid card and I wanna know if it will work on ubuntu
[10:22] <fokuslee> :
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> nothing
[10:22] <hammackj> ikonia: do you know where that is located? the cd doesn't have it written until boot
[10:22] <LjL> ikonia: well you win the bet
[10:22] <Comrade-Sergei> sooooo...?
[10:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell fokuslee about paste | fokuslee, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:22] <ikonia> hammackj: not looked at the livecd pre-build
[10:23] <eternal_p> snatrat: I turned focus stealing off...no difference
[10:23] <ikonia> LjL: I wish I hadn't
[10:23] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei, enough to paste things once... are you sure that drive is connected properly?
[10:23] <adamonline45> I finally got my server set up! I can SSH to it and everything!  I'm hoping I'll be able to eliminate the extra monitor and keyboard from my desk, but can I log in after a reboot using SSH?
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> so im done?
[10:23] <stdin> fokuslee: ; (semi-colon) not : (colon)
[10:23] <fokuslee> LjL sorri i meant for the paste to be on one line
[10:23] <robson_> ;p
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> let me check idk i just stick it in tehere
[10:23] <variant> Comrade-Sergei: did you make sure that the jumpers are set correctly?
[10:23] <Alarm> where can i find a good guide of how to install cedega ? (btw , to play games i need cedega or p2p ?)
[10:24] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: can the disk be seen in the bios
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> there are no jumpers on a lappy hdd
[10:24] <gnomefreak> !cedega | Alarm
[10:24] <ubotu> Alarm: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:24] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: its normally flashed onto later hard disks
[10:24] <gop> hey
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> idk let me reboot and check the bios and check connections
[10:24] <gop> how do I get fire effect in beryl
[10:24] <ikonia> gop: join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:24] <kane77> is there a lights out game available? (... I like to play games :P)
[10:24] <Drunken_Canuck> is there a way to download win32 codecs for totem?
[10:25] <ikonia> lights out game ?
[10:25] <ikonia> Drunken_Canuck: see restricted formats in the wiki
[10:25] <AnRkey> is there a HCL for ubuntu?
[10:25] <Drunken_Canuck> thank you
[10:25] <AnRkey> i am looking at buying an adaptec 2400A raid card and I wanna know if it will work on ubuntu
[10:25] <Drunken_Canuck> lol i love this channel
[10:25] <Newbie> zaggynl:
[10:25] <ikonia> !hcl >anrkey
[10:25] <AnRkey> thanks ikonia
[10:25] <frankabel> I want put my servers to update automatically as described at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Au...ecurityUpdates
[10:25] <AnRkey> yeah it really is nice
[10:25] <kane77> ikonia, you know the one where you switch the lights.. (on a 3x3 board...)
[10:25] <frankabel> But as that wiki say "There is always some security risks involved in running software upgrades without supervision"... to mitigate that effect I need know how can I see what packages had ben updated, when and if is possible a method to rollback the updates.
[10:25] <Newbie> !seen zgggynl
[10:26] <ubotu> I haven't seen zgggynl recently
[10:26] <AnRkey> this # rocks
[10:26] <mzanfardino> I would like to save a different set of icons from one workstation desktop to another.  Can this be done?
[10:26] <ikonia> kane77: no sorry
[10:26] <kane77> ikonia, hh np :D
[10:26] <Newbie> !seen zaggynl
[10:26] <khoa> Zaggynl n=Zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl was last seen Fri Jan 26 12:51:21 2007 joining #ubuntu
[10:26] <Alarm> whats the difference between cedega and point2play?
[10:26] <ubotu> Zaggynl is on IRC right now!
[10:26] <ikonia> Newbie: can you stop messing with the bot
[10:26] <variant> frankabel: if it's such an important system make full system backups with rsync and then just copy the lastknown good version in the event of disaster
[10:27] <LjL> khoa: no automated scripts like that please
[10:27] <Newbie> ikonia:sorry,i annoyed u?
[10:27] <ompaul> khoa, please turn them all off thanks
[10:27] <mzanfardino> excuse me, I meant to say I'd like to save different icons from one workSPACE to another.  Same machine.  I'm using different workspaces for different purposes and would like to be able to make loading various apps easier...
[10:27] <LjL> !msg the bot > Newbie
[10:28] <Newbie> ikonia: i look for someone if he's here!
[10:28] <ikonia> mzanfardino: not possible
[10:28] <LjL> Newbie, you can message the bot in a private query
[10:28] <mzanfardino> ikonia: really?
[10:28] <LjL> Newbie: there's no need to use this channel for that
[10:28] <ikonia> really
[10:28] <ompaul> Newbie, you message that bot, not in public --there are 900+ here
[10:28] <mzanfardino> ikonia: that's the first time someone has told me staight-up something was not possible in linux.
[10:28] <ikonia> well its not
[10:28] <Newbie> LjL:can i message the bot in private ?
[10:28] <ikonia> mzanfardino: you can't have different wall papers on different gnome desktops
[10:28] <AnRkey> does any1 know how i can get a promise SX4060 raid card to be picked up in ubuntu?
[10:29] <ikonia> its a limitation thats annoying
[10:29] <ompaul> Newbie, msg = private
[10:29] <LjL> Newbie: i just made it message YOU.
[10:29] <ikonia> AnRkey: is it supported
[10:29] <AnRkey> can't see it listed
[10:29] <LjL> Newbie: type /query ubotu - but you should already have a query open
[10:29] <variant> ikonia: not with beryl?
[10:29] <adamwest> guys, i need help about the GNOME panels
[10:29] <ikonia> have you cheked the website
[10:29] <ikonia> variant: maybe  not certain
[10:29] <Newbie> ok sorry men  women!
[10:29] <frankabel> variant: but exist a easy mode or commands to rollback?
[10:29] <dvheumen> hi everyone. I' ve got a problem with DRI and I think I have pinpointed it pretty precisely to a bug. I'd like to know if there's some other way to fix this problem except for compiling libgl1-* from sources. Because most of the times there's no good way to uninstall this in case it's needed? (It's this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/48029)
[10:29] <ikonia> but different icons does not warrent beryl
[10:29] <raboof> is there a good source for an audio-optimized ubuntu kernel package?
[10:29] <mzanfardino> ikonia: wow... that's a bummer
[10:29] <AnRkey> ikonia: tried booting the ubuntu and knoppix discs and nothing
[10:29] <ikonia> raboof: define optimised
[10:30] <ikonia> AnRkey: look on the manufactures site and linuxcompatible.com/org see if its supported
[10:30] <variant> frankabel: yes, commands.. it's to big to describe here. google holds hte answers
[10:30] <adamwest> how can i make the panels' opaque whatever the theme is?
[10:30] <AnRkey> k
[10:30] <mzanfardino> ikonia: I'm used to the answers like: sure, but you have to do x,y,z ... not always easy but possible... but to read that it's flat out impossible? ... now I"m a little depressed...
[10:30] <shatrat> mzanfardino: It's probably just a matter of time till gnome or kde supports that sort of thing, try checking around their forums or channels.
[10:30] <raboof> ikonia: so rosegarden will not complain about not finding a high-resolution timing source and suggesting me that I should get a kernel with the kernel timer resolution set higher
[10:30] <ikonia> mzanfardino: 1.) if you are that bothered research it, there are over the top tricks. The real answer is "no"
[10:30] <mzanfardino> shatrat: Yes!  My spirits are lifting already at the prospect! :)
[10:30] <jhai1> I've installed beryl.  I saw it on someone else's computer and he was able, when flipping between sides of the cube, to hold it on the corner and view windows split over the edge.  How is it possible to do this?
[10:30] <variant> mzanfardino: you can use other window managers to achive that effect ( ikonia didn't say it wasnt possible in linux, just in gnome ((linux is a KERNEL)
[10:31] <shatrat> mzanfardino: You probably could do it with some scripting to change your desktop config every time you change workspaces, but it wouldnt be an easy thing of just unchecking something in the gnome config
[10:31] <raboof> ikonia: not sure what they mean by that, but I suppose that also means enabling preemption etc
[10:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jhai1 about nberyl | jhai1, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nberyl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <ikonia> raboof: pre-emption is enabled on the non-server kernels
[10:31] <LjL> jhai1: alt + left mouse button and move
[10:31] <shatrat> jhai1: hold alt and left click
[10:32] <mzanfardino> variant: ok, I see, my mistake.  So it's a limitation of the GNOME windows manager (and KDE as well I take it).  Ok.
[10:32] <ikonia> yes
[10:32] <mzanfardino> ikonia: please don't mistake my incredulity as disrespect.
[10:32] <LjL> ikonia: by the way... *some* preemption is enabled, yes, but not quite the whole of it. only, ahem, cooperative preemption is - i'll look up the actual option. what do you make of that?
[10:32] <jimmy20013> Hello guys, I installed Ubuntu Dapper yesterday and my atheros card was working fine but now after the updating the Distro, even though I can see the card and the network but can't connect to it
[10:32] <AnRkey> ikonia: same old crap that i get with googling. It seems that it's driver on the promise.com site is for 2.4 kernels and 2.6 is supposed to support it but ubuntu just doesn't see the freaken card
[10:32] <ikonia> mzanfardino: not at all
[10:32] <AnRkey> ikonia: i am going to giggle while i snap the freaken card in half at this rate :D
[10:33] <Cryoniq> !multiverse
[10:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:33] <ikonia> AnRkey: so its a third party module
[10:33] <AnRkey> ikonia: third party watsamawats
[10:33] <LjL> ikonia:   # CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set     CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y     # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set    CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
[10:33] <ikonia> LjL: sorry the screen scrolled so I only got part of your message
[10:33] <mzanfardino> so, since I'm not going to research different windows managers, any suggestions what I ought to be looking for?  Other than say KDE?
[10:33] <LjL> ikonia: by the way... *some* preemption is enabled, yes, but not quite the whole of it. only, ahem, cooperative preemption is - i'll look up the actual option. what do you make of that?
[10:33] <variant> mzanfardino: this is probably what your looking for (for wallpapaer at least) http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Wallpapoz
[10:33] <adamwest> guys, how can i make the panels opaque whatever the theme is?
[10:33] <fghj> this is annoying and I want a fix: every time I go reboot my machine, I have to re run the nvidia script installer to install the nvidia drivers; how can I avoid this:?
[10:33] <ikonia> AnRkey: module thats not part of the kernel and is supplied by the vendor as a drop in
[10:34] <ikonia> LjL: that doesn't make sense CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y     # CONFIG_PREEMPT then why is it set to "y2
[10:34] <ikonia> "y"
[10:34] <frankabel> variant:thanks... can you give me the name of the command or point me to some where that explain that kind of rollback?
[10:34] <jhai1> Alt+left mouse button doesn't seem to help, but I'll have a look through that forum ubotu pointed me to.  Thanks.
[10:34] <LjL> k,l
[10:34] <variant> mzanfardino: you can stil use gnome if you use a different window manager.. gnome is the desktop environment it has it's own window manager called metacity.. it's actualy nautilus that draws the desktop wallpapaer anyway
[10:34] <mzanfardino> variant: thank you for the link. I will check that site out.
[10:34] <AnRkey> well the driver (module?) on the site is for suse 9.0 and redhat(old) versions that use the 2.4 kernel
[10:34] <mzanfardino> variant: ow, my dead
[10:35] <mzanfardino> variant: ow, my head*
[10:35] <ikonia> AnRkey: screwed
[10:35] <LjL> ikonia: well, that's the way it's set... i'm not entirely sure what it means, but from what i read, CONFIG_PREEMPT being set would mean *anything* in the kernel can be preempted at *any* time, while CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY would mean that only code that calls something that says "yes, from now on i will accept to be preempted" will be. or something.
[10:35] <AnRkey> ikonia: hahaha just typing a question asking if i was screwed
[10:35] <AnRkey> hahaha
[10:35] <Comrade-Sergei> i dont know how its possible but it just booted to the laptop hdd somehow
[10:35] <AnRkey> rofl
[10:35] <jimmy20013> Hello guys, I installed Ubuntu Edgy yesterday and my atheros card was working fine but now after the updating the Distro, even though I can see the card and the network but can't connect to it
[10:35] <AnRkey> are we in sync or what
[10:35] <AnRkey> ah well
[10:35] <Comrade-Sergei> and it was enpty
[10:35] <mzanfardino> variant: ok, so, linux = kernel (got that), GNOME/KDE = desktop manager, metacity/nautilus = windows manager.
[10:36] <ikonia> LjL: that means normally that the application has to support/request pre-emp
[10:36] <AnRkey> do u know if the adaptec 2400A card will work in ubuntu and 2.6 kernel?
[10:36] <LjL> ikonia: someone said CONFIG_PREEMPT=y created problems with something-i-don't-remember, so i was curious as to the actual differences and advantages/disadvantages
[10:36] <ikonia> rather than the system forcing it
[10:36] <ikonia> AnRkey: no - it won't
[10:36] <Comrade-Sergei> idk wtf was up with that
[10:36] <ikonia> LjL: pre-emp  can cause problem
[10:36] <ikonia> Comrade-Sergei: no language please
[10:36] <mzanfardino> variant: therefore, I can keep linux (of course), I can keep GNOME (yeah!) and I should research alternatives to nautilus/metacity, yes?
[10:36] <AnRkey> ikonia: you tried it?
[10:36] <LjL> ikonia: oh. so the Ubuntu kernel *never* preempts unless there is an userlevel process asking it to?
[10:36] <ikonia> LjL: although its always been VERY positive for me
[10:36] <variant> frankabel: for gentoo but: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup
[10:36] <ikonia> LjL: almost spot on
[10:36] <Comrade-Sergei> ikonia or LjL how was that even possible
[10:37] <Comrade-Sergei> i dont get it
[10:37] <frankabel> variant:thanks very much
[10:37] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: "booted" like what?
[10:37] <erUSUL> ikonia: not in this case afaik, the description o LjL it is a good aproximation of what voluntary means
[10:37] <_bart_> hello folks
[10:37] <Dreamglider> Hello
[10:37] <Comrade-Sergei> the drive must have been loose or something
[10:37] <variant> mzanfardino: if you are so desperate to have seperate icons on each workspace (i cant see how not having that feature would cause you to dump ubuntu what with most *other* os's not supporting even multiple desktops!)
[10:37] <Dreamglider> i finaly got ubuntu installed again
[10:37] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: oh. yes, i was suspecting something like that
[10:37] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL it just booted like its supposed to with a black hdd
[10:37] <ikonia> erUSUL: thats what I said
[10:37] <Comrade-Sergei> hahahahaha
[10:37] <ikonia> I agreed with his description
[10:37] <Dreamglider> turned out to be the wireless card
[10:37] <LjL> well, which means it *didn't* boot.. but anyway
[10:38] <Pirate-king> do you get podcasts on gktpod?
[10:38] <Dreamglider> i had to disable it in bios
[10:38] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[10:38] <mzanfardino> variant: no no no, you misunderstand.  I'm just being fasicious!  I'd not dump linux/ubuntu because of this!  I'm just wanting to wrap my head around the many layers...
[10:38] <erUSUL> ikonia: i mean it not depends on userspace
[10:38] <AnRkey> ikonia: how do you know the card won't work?
[10:38] <ikonia> AnRkey: 3rd part module again
[10:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ok another problem unreal tournament will not play its sounds in ubuntu any reacons
[10:38] <AnRkey> fek
[10:39] <ikonia> erUSUL: yes, thats why I said almost spot on , his theory/example is fine
[10:39] <LjL> ikonia, erUSUL: well, i gave two different descriptions, 1) only when a piece of *kernel* code says "yes i'm OK with being preempted", it gets preempted and 2) when a *userland* process ask "kernel, please, can you preempt yourself?", it gets preempted.    i believed the correct one was 1
[10:39] <adamonline45> How do I know when there are updates available on a CLI-only install?
[10:39] <erUSUL> ikonia: < ikonia> LjL: that means normally that the application has to support/request pre-emp <--- so this??
[10:39] <AnRkey> ikonia: can you suggest any cards that will work with ubuntu and are PATA raid cards?
[10:39] <ikonia> erUSUL: yes, that was a tad over simplified
[10:39] <gop> what the lastest version of ubuntu
[10:39] <erUSUL> LjL:  1) only when a piece of *kernel* code says "yes i'm OK
[10:39] <erUSUL>              with being preempted",
[10:39] <ikonia> AnRkey: don't try to use hardware raid
[10:39] <mzanfardino> variant: quite honestly, as I was trying to (sarcstically) imply with my earlier comment to ikonia, I was just surprised that with the vast flexibiliy of linux/gnome/nautilus that no one had a solution for what I'd (mistakenly) assumed was a straighforward quandary...
[10:40] <erUSUL> LjL: the first is th right one afaik
[10:40] <variant> mzanfardino: as i pointed out, there are solutions
[10:40] <ikonia> mzanfardino: can you do that in any other OS ?
[10:40] <mzanfardino> variant: indeed you have! :)
[10:40] <LjL> erUSUL: so if that is the case, would one expect actual tangible performance disadvantages compared to a "fully preempible" kernel?
[10:40] <mzanfardino> ikonia: not that I'm aware of!
[10:40] <LjL> as well as fewer problems i suppose
[10:40] <AnRkey> ikonia: something wrong with hardware raid that i don't know about? :(
[10:40] <ikonia> AnRkey: its crap - and cheap. REAL hardware raid costs a LOT
[10:41] <mzanfardino> you have both been helpful! My comments must appear to come from left field.  I'm in a really good mood and I think they would have read better if you could have heard the delivery...
[10:41] <AnRkey> well i am after the redundancy
[10:41] <ikonia> AnRkey: software raid is your friend
[10:41] <erUSUL> LjL: usually the differences will only show in microbenchmarks or very specialized workloads (serius audio/video work) not in "mormal" "office" usage
[10:41] <kaouete> hi
[10:41] <AnRkey> but i can't boot of it
[10:41] <AnRkey> off
[10:41] <kaouete> when i use NetworkManager, what should i put in my /etc/network/interfaces ??
[10:42] <ikonia> erUSUL: I've seen it on a few applications
[10:42] <ikonia> AnRkey: yes you can
[10:42] <AnRkey> boot of a software raid volume?
[10:42] <ikonia> yup
[10:42] <variant> ikonia: /me just ordered a linkstation pro :P (NAS with raid
[10:42] <AnRkey> wtf?
[10:42] <LjL> erUSUL: what about games? (and no i don't normally care, but i'm doing some petty research about games :P) - and yes, audio was what prompted this discussiom
[10:42] <ikonia> AnRkey: thats uncalled for
[10:42] <ikonia> LjL: yes games would be a good example actually
[10:42] <ikonia> of how it "could" be used
[10:42] <jimmy20013> Hello guys, I installed Ubuntu Edgy yesterday and my atheros card was working fine but now after the updating the Distro, even though I can see the card and the network but can't connect to it
[10:43] <AnRkey> ikonia: very sorry for bad language
[10:43] <bmk> hello all, having some problems booting from a cd
[10:43] <ikonia> AnRkey: ok
[10:43] <LjL> ikonia: could or is?
[10:43] <erUSUL> ikonia: yes, jack for instance is a very sensible app on this regard ;) (not even preemt suffices you need *-rt)
[10:43] <ikonia> LjL: not to many games out ofr linux
[10:43] <ikonia> erUSUL: excellent example with jack
[10:43] <LjL> ikonia: uh... well, that's a point ;)
[10:43] <bmk> i try to boot from my cd
[10:43] <LjL> yes, i suppose the person asking about audio was thinking jack
[10:43] <bmk> when i get to the ubuntu menu
[10:43] <ikonia> LjL: so if games /where/ written it would be a good application
[10:43] <LjL> things like rosegarden would use jack anyway
[10:44] <LjL> ikonia: well come on there is a few... :)
[10:44] <ikonia> I'm not aware of rosegarden to be honest
[10:44] <bmk> and choose start, it says error reading boot cd
[10:44] <ikonia> LjL: yes, but as a rule of thumb....I was suggesting
[10:44] <bmk> anybody know whats wrong?
[10:44] <romanoffi> Hi ... trying to get sound to work on Edgy....drivers for onboard nvidia sound are loaded, i think. In alsamixer, the < Master > bar will not budge off zero. Any thoughts? Thanks.
[10:44] <briancann> could anyone help me restore my ubuntu partiton after a failed windows install
[10:44] <pbureau> jimmy20013- what kind of card and are you using WPA?
[10:45] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: You should be able to use md raid with your Adaptec 2400A, rather than using the 'proprietary' RAID format and drivers from Adaptec
[10:45] <jimmy20013> pbureau: Its a Atheros with AR5005G chipset and no WPA
[10:45] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: yup - if he treates it as a jbod
[10:46] <jimmy20013> pbureau: No encryption whatsoever
[10:46] <pbureau> jimmy20013- lets take this in private (your nick is registered ?) cause I use the same card
[10:46] <jimmy20013> pbureau: ok
[10:46] <briancann> !grub
[10:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:46] <bmk> excuse me, i need some help
[10:47] <ikonia> bmk: whats up
[10:47] <bmk> i burned my cd, and restart computer
[10:47] <bmk> booted from it
[10:47] <bmk> got to the ubuntu boot menu
[10:47] <erUSUL> bmk: have you checked the iso image? ( md5sum )
[10:47] <bmk> yes i checked it after downlaoding
[10:47] <ikonia> whats the problem ?
[10:47] <ikonia> he's booted ?
[10:47] <LjL> would could a "no route to host" mean when attempting OBEX transfers via IrDA, given that irdadump sees the connected device?
[10:48] <ikonia> LjL: via irda - strange
[10:48] <bmk> i get the setup/unbuntu screen
[10:48] <bmk> when i choose start
[10:48] <ikonia> LjL: normally means no network route, but irda isn't ip standards normally
[10:48] <bmk> it says " error reading boot cd"
[10:48] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: md raid?
[10:48] <bmk> and then i have to restartthecomputer
[10:48] <ikonia> bmk there is an option on the boot menu to "check cd" have you tried that
[10:48] <LjL> ikonia: no, but it does present itself as a network interface - as in ifconfig irda0
[10:48] <ikonia> LjL: ahhhh
[10:49] <marcin12341234> hi
[10:49] <bmk> whenever i choose any option from the menu
[10:49] <bmk> it locks up
[10:49] <LjL> ikonia: though, the ifconfig looks alright to me. and no it doesn't use IP
[10:49] <LjL> nor pretend it does
[10:49] <ikonia> LjL: is it possible traffic is going out of the wrong interface
[10:49] <ikonia> bmk: looks like a bad burn
[10:49] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: and you could check this out about the dpt_i2o on 2.6 kernels - http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/faq.php
[10:49] <bmk> i burned with infra,
[10:49] <bmk> i was here earlier
[10:50] <bmk> and burned it at 4x speed
[10:50] <LjL> ikonia: have thought of that... what do you propose to try if that were the case? i don't think i can do a "route add"... or, well, if i do i have no idea what to put in it
[10:50] <LjL> ikonia: i'll pastebin an ifconfig
[10:50] <ikonia> LjL: and netstat -rn please
[10:50] <bmk> burn another copy?
[10:50] <ikonia> bmk: yup
[10:50] <bmk> ok, should i use a different program for burning?
[10:50] <bmk> like sonic?
[10:50] <shatrat> bmk: try burning with a different program.  I don't know about this infra stuff. I use deepburner, its free
[10:51] <bmk> right then, ill google for deep burner
[10:52] <Gorski> sdas
[10:52] <bmk> im downloading deepburner now, how do i use the interface?
[10:52] <ikonia> bmk: research
[10:53] <briancann> i dont have a "/boot" how do I fix grub i have 1 partiton with my linux and one with swap and a big unformatted one for other things
[10:53] <bmk> well i havent found any burning specifications
[10:53] <ikonia> briancann: what do you mean fix grub ?
[10:53] <LjL> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3013/
[10:53] <ikonia> LjL: looking
[10:53] <bmk> any specific manner for burning the cd?
[10:54] <ikonia> bmk: just as slow as possiblem
[10:54] <chris_shafto> Anyone help a complete linux newbie?
[10:54] <ikonia> LjL: looks good in that there is no routing information for irda0
[10:54] <jimmy20014> hi
[10:54] <ikonia> chris_shafto: just ask the question
[10:54] <jimmy20014> pbureau: I got disconnected
[10:55] <chris_shafto> Erm well I need to install .tar.gz for my audio drivers but how exaclty do i do it?
[10:55] <chris_shafto> I tried reading guides etc but nothing
[10:55] <ikonia> chris_shafto: why do you need to do that
[10:55] <chris_shafto> cause i have no sound XD
[10:55] <LjL> ikonia: well, i think it would only be concerned with IP addresses though, while the irda0 interface really only has its own weird network level address...
[10:55] <ikonia> chris_shafto: what makes you think this is the fix
[10:55] <virtu> Hi for all
[10:55] <ikonia> LjL: I agree
[10:55] <briancann> ikonia: it wont boot anything when i switch the comp on as win xp wiped that boot loader although my original ubuntu linux partition and swap are still there
[10:55] <ablyss> hiya virtu
[10:55] <ikonia> briancann: just re-install grub ?
[10:55] <pbureau> jimmy20013-  look at you pvt window mate
[10:56] <erUSUL> !grub > briancann
[10:56] <LjL> ikonia: note that not all OBEX programs i've tried fail with "no route to host", but they all fail anyway. suppose most of them don't bother to print the message from connect()
[10:56] <ikonia> LjL: thats why I was pleased that there is no route for irda devices in your routing table
[10:56] <chris_shafto> well unless ubuntu comes with the audio drivers for Realtek AC97's then i think it is the fix
[10:56] <ikonia> chris_shafto: it does
[10:56] <briancann> ikonia: i would like to restore the boot loader to pick up the ubuntu partition only
[10:56] <pbureau> people still use infrared devices ?
[10:56] <chris_shafto> it doesnt work though
[10:56] <virtu> hi ablyss.. I just received the CD's that I requested from Ubunte Site :)
[10:56] <virtu> very nice... thans
[10:56] <ikonia> briancann: just install it manually
[10:56] <virtu> :)
[10:56] <ikonia> chris_shafto: works for me
[10:56] <briancann> ikonia: how to install grub
[10:56] <jimmy20014> pbureau: My user name has changed to jimmy20014
[10:56] <chris_shafto> i try playing music etc nothing works
[10:56] <erUSUL> !sound | chris_shafto
[10:56] <ubotu> chris_shafto: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:56] <ikonia> briancann: sudo grub
[10:57] <LjL> ikonia: one thing i've found on google was that some people seemed to have a reference to EtherTalk in their irda0 entry... though i have no clue what that has to do with anything. the web says it's an AppleTalk thing
[10:57] <ikonia> then use the grub shell
[10:57] <zipper> I'm considering bying a IBM Thinkpad T42 with the intention of installing linux on it. However, on linux-on-laptops i can only find descriptions about running it on 5.xx. Anyone in here know of a guide on running 6.06 on it, or is there even someone inhere with hands on experience?
[10:57] <virtu> I am from Brazil... and recently I bought a budget notebook from clevo :) and Ubuntu works great on it
[10:57] <ikonia> LjL: really, thats an interesting thing, seems random but if its mentioned a few times must be something to it
[10:57] <briancann> ikonia: ok
[10:57] <ikonia> zipper: works fine on a T40
[10:57] <IntuitiveNipple> zipper: I've seen a *lot* of issues with the T42 but there's a dedicated thinkpad wiki devoted to getting Linux working on them
[10:58] <virtu> a shot of it http://bp0.blogger.com/_1BijyTf2mAY/Rbp4YwCFFJI/AAAAAAAAAAk/ZrvuYpoJkhk/s1600-h/shot.jpg
[10:58] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: so if i get an i2o compliant car then ubuntu should autofind it?
[10:58] <ikonia> virtu we don't care
[10:58] <ikonia> this is a support channel
[10:58] <LjL> ikonia: an example is here http://www.pilot-link.org/pipermail/pilot-link-general/2003-September/001340.html
[10:58] <ikonia> AnRkey: even better, just get a jbod supported card
[10:58] <ikonia> LjL: reading
[10:58] <virtu> ikonia: thanks anyway :) where I can find Ubuntu XMMS skinz?
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: I thought you already *had* the Adaptec 2400A?
[10:58] <zipper> ikonia, but afaik the T40 has a Atheros wireless chip which makes it a no go (I can understand LEAP doesnt work with that?)
[10:58] <ikonia> virtu www.winamp.com
[10:58] <briancann> ikonia: what do i do after "sudo grub"
[10:58] <_bart_> virtu, XMMS is for fools :)
[10:59] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: i have a really cheap one that i can get in a day or two
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: I wouldn't recommend i2o though, thats legacy and not well supported
[10:59] <ikonia> zipper: the chipsets work but there is a problem with some encyption on that card
[10:59] <virtu> _bart_: ok.. so what are you using?
[10:59] <zipper> IntuitiveNipple, Hmm, that doesnt sound good at all. I was under the impression that Thinkpads were some of the most linux friendly laptops out there?
[10:59] <_bart_> virtu, mpd
[10:59] <ikonia> briancann: do you not know how to use the grub shell
[10:59] <virtu> hmm
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: But, it looks like you *could* get it to work with kernel 2.6 from those docs
[10:59] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: what card would you suggest?
[10:59] <radar1976> question, how do I check the version of ubuntu
[10:59] <zipper> ikonia, hmm... I really need everything to work with the wireless chip
[10:59] <LjL> radar1976: lsb_release -a
[10:59] <briancann> ikonia: no, not really
[10:59] <ikonia> AnRkey: any supported card by the native kernel
[10:59] <erUSUL> radar1976: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:59] <ikonia> briancann: your probably best not having a boot partition then
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: If you use Linux's md RAID you can use any IDE devices
[10:59] <ikonia> makes things easier
[11:00] <AnRkey> ikonia: where would i find a list of those supported cards
[11:00] <briancann> ikonia: then what do I dop
[11:00] <briancann> *do
[11:00] <ikonia> !hcl >anrkey
[11:00] <Pirate-king> how do you download podcasts
[11:00] <radar1976> thank you, second question, can I put an atheros wireless card into AP mode?
[11:00] <Pirate-king> I get an error
[11:00] <chris_shafto> still no luck..i got the realtek drivers downloaded in tar.gz so how do i go about installing?
[11:00] <ikonia> briancann: re-install ubuntu without a /boot partition
[11:00] <AnRkey> ikonia: thanks for doing that again :D
[11:00] <bouter> hi   is there anyone here who can give me a good link on how to install aixgl on my dapper?
[11:00] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: I have some Promise FastTrak TX2000's using the dmraid drivers; doing RAID1+0 (Stripe + Mirror)
[11:00] <LjL> Ubotu, tell bouter about aiglx | bouter, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:00] <ikonia> chris_shafto: fix the drivers in the kernel rather than messing with 3rd party
[11:00] <Pirate-king> Ive been tring to download twit
[11:00] <pbureau> network question : anyone have a networked HDD (with IP address) , and access the mp3's on it (yes I can access the network drive just fine any other way than with xmms, amarok gtpod and aikel.. any thoughs or sugestion to fool the software (no network drives access on file loading screens) to think it is a local drive instead of a network drive (ps I have 12,800 mp3's I aint copying them to the laptop
[11:00] <briancann> ikonia: how is that done
[11:00] <bouter> booted with sabayon live miniedition and it' s supported
[11:00] <chris_shafto> how do i do that?
[11:00] <ikonia> LjL: that documents random - in that it explains but doesn't say why its so odd
[11:01] <pbureau> jimmy20014- you still here or shadow dude ?
[11:01] <erUSUL> AnRkey: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[11:01] <ikonia> briancann: put the ubuntu cd in - follow the instructions on screen after you click install
[11:01] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: does the TX2000 get picked up by ubuntu?
[11:01] <bouter> supported on my system that is
[11:01] <ikonia> AnRkey: dude - LOOK for yourself
[11:01] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: It needs the dmraid modules installing
[11:01] <ikonia> we can't go through every card for you
[11:01] <jimmy20014> pbureau: I got your messages but I dont think you are getting mine since this nick is unregistered
[11:01] <LjL> ikonia: oh, i haven't found any that actually *talk* about the ethertalk thing, just ipconfig output that have it on irda0
[11:01] <ikonia> LjL: eactly
[11:01] <ikonia> seems a bit random
[11:02] <pbureau> jimmy20014-  so you added the auto ath0 like I told you ? above the if ath0 line ?
[11:02] <jimmy20014> pbureau : I got the card working now and add the line you told me to. I am about to restart
[11:02] <AnRkey> ikonia: those lists show me what is supported but they don't tell me how easy it is to install
[11:02] <bouter> I ' ve tried some links but I allways stumble onto errors     eg  repo's that have an incorrect url
[11:02] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRkey: but that's assuming you want to use the TX2000 with the Promise RAID format - you could use it as a dual-port UDMA controller and manage the disks with md raid
[11:02] <pbureau> jimmy20014- great.... so that was the problem then
[11:02] <AnRkey> i am trying to find a card that will be easy to use
[11:02] <ikonia> AnRkey: if you use it as a jbod - its easy - you plug it in
[11:02] <jimmy20014> pbureau: See you in a minute. Thanks
[11:02] <ikonia> AnRkey: as I said - stop looking at hardware raid options
[11:02] <Atomiku> Hi, I can't seem to install FreeNX, So i'm just gonna give up. Is there anything else like FreeNX I can install that works fast (Over a LAN)?
[11:02] <LjL> ikonia: unless, for some reason, the irda-linux guys have decided ethertalk would be a nice protocol to emulate for their pseudo-network interface... bah
[11:02] <chris_shafto> how do i fix my sound drivers through kernel?
[11:02] <erUSUL> !raid > AnRkey
[11:02] <erUSUL> !fakeraid > AnRkey
[11:02] <ikonia> LjL: possible
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <briancann> ikonia: i dont want a fresh install of the operating system I already have a ubuntu install i want to recover the boot loader to boot it again
[11:03] <bmk> how do i use deepburner
[11:03] <Pirate-king> anybody put podcasts on their ipod?
[11:03] <ikonia> briancann: do you have a seperate /boot partition
[11:03] <darwinawards> bmk, run it in Windows, add stuff to the project, click "burn"
[11:03] <ikonia> bmk: google
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> The Adaptec 2400A and Promse TX series aren't 'hardware' RAID, they are hardware that facilitates what is called 'soft' or 'fake' RAID
[11:03] <Pirate-king> with gtkpod
[11:03] <bmk> the program doesnt have an option to add a file
[11:03] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: and they SUCK
[11:03] <ikonia> lets not forget that
[11:03] <erUSUL> briancann: there is a how to in the grub ubotu factoid i already sent you *twice*
[11:03] <AnRkey> you see i wanna dual boot the same raid volume so doing a software linux raid is not for me
[11:03] <erUSUL> !grub > briancann
[11:03] <_bart_> bouter, sabayon is just a desert
[11:03] <bmk> the help file says "click ..."
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> If you want true hardware RAID, go on ebay and get Dell PERC II controller
[11:03] <ikonia> erUSUL: he wants spoon feeding
[11:04] <raboof> fyi: in feisty, there actually is a audio-optimized kernel (linux-lowlatency)
[11:04] <ikonia> raboof: really, thats very good to know
[11:04] <IntuitiveNipple> AnRKey: you can dual-boot with the FastTrak and its fakeRAID
[11:04] <bouter> _bart_ and a pretty good one too if made correctly    but I 'm talking about the dstro
[11:04] <darwinawards> !grub
[11:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:04] <darwinawards> huh
[11:04] <_bart_> bouter, so am I
[11:04] <pbureau> ikonia-  shoudl of use /ignore a long time ago :)
[11:04] <Atomiku> Hi, I can't seem to install FreeNX, So i'm just gonna give up. Is there anything else like FreeNX I can install that works fast (Over a LAN)?
[11:04] <bmk> where is the add files button
[11:04] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: damn it's sata and i need it to be pata
[11:04] <AnRkey> so close
[11:04] <ikonia> pbureau: probably
[11:05] <IntuitiveNipple> what is sata?
[11:05] <erUSUL> AnRkey: vnc
[11:05] <bouter> _bart_ do you know any links?
[11:05] <shazow> How do I get Ubuntu to let me change to a higher resolution? the screen resolution gui only lets me go as high as 1024x786, I tried adding 1280x1024 modes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf (like so: http://pastebin.com/868191) and rebooted, but the dropdown still only has 1024x786 as the highest... Help please?
[11:05] <ikonia> AnRkey: just get any ide card
[11:05] <_bart_> bouter, I cant, distro war and such
[11:05] <ikonia> AnRkey: just remember raiding ide drives is SLOW
[11:05] <erUSUL> !fixres | shazow
[11:05] <ubotu> shazow: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:05] <chris_shafto> how can i increase my screen res to 1280x1024?
[11:05] <bouter> I 'm on ubuntu dapper right now
[11:05] <shazow> thank you
[11:05] <ikonia> chris_shafto: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:05] <AnRkey> ikonia: i am after the redundancy
[11:05] <sico> Can anyone help me? I am trying to run a game (Quake 1) and am using the ezquake and the fuhquake clients.  Fuhquake works fine, but Ezquake has choppy sound.  Any ideas?
[11:05] <ikonia> AnRkey: just be aware that it will slow things down big time
[11:05] <AnRkey> i have already seen that it's not the fastest
[11:05] <briancann> erUSUL: i already tried that it only gives me directions to a method that aint working
[11:05] <PaSurf> I am trying to install ubuntu server on a dell poweredge machine, and am running into problems with the keyboard locking up.  any ideas?
[11:06] <bmk>  this program wont let me burn the iso becuase it wont let me select it!
[11:06] <ikonia> PaSurf: check the logs
[11:06] <AnRkey> in fact my system runs about the same with raid as it does on a single drive
[11:06] <chris_shafto> must be run as root?
[11:06] <ikonia> chris_shafto: yes
[11:06] <chris_shafto> how do you do that :)
[11:06] <PaSurf> ikonia:  I dont think I am getting far enough into the install to define log files
[11:06] <bouter> _bart_ I 'm on dapper right now   so there' s no need for any war :)   I just want to install aixgl on my system    I' m a bit of an eyecandy-boy
[11:06] <ikonia> chris_shafto: http://www.ubuntu.com - look at the basic docs
[11:06] <IntuitiveNipple> fakeRAID doesn't slow things down noticably at all, in fact sometimes its much faster, depending on what config you adopt
[11:06] <ikonia> chris_shafto: thats stuff you should know before starting
[11:06] <erUSUL> briancann: fine, then tell us what have you tried and what have failed
[11:07] <AnRkey> ikonia: how long till i get the same treatment as bmk? :D
[11:07] <Dreamglider> it seems my cpu is running at 1ghz instead of two
[11:07] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: nah, but the dual transfter on ide disks slows things down
[11:07] <Dreamglider> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GHz
[11:07] <ikonia> Dreamglider: scaled down ?
[11:07] <Dreamglider> speed 1000
[11:07] <bmk> im going to redownload program
[11:07] <briancann> erUSUL: ok
[11:07] <chris218_> hey guys. i just installed ubuntu lamp. im running it for the first time. getting an err "alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist droping to shell", goes to shell (ash) and says "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job ctrl turned off"
[11:07] <bmk> see if that works
[11:07] <ikonia> Dreamglider: thats centrino behaviour
[11:07] <PaSurf> ikonia:  the system basically stops when I start entering the ip address....
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia, not if the mirrors are different IDE channels. Thats the way Promise sets it up by default
[11:08] <ikonia> PaSurf: probably a hardware error or incompatability
[11:08] <erUSUL> briancann: you can try Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[11:08] <_bart_> bouter, I could only help on AIXGL on the mother (or father) or sabayon, no use here
[11:08] <Dreamglider> ikonia,  can i get it to run at 2GHz ?
[11:08] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: very true
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> I get great performance of these TX2000's
[11:08] <pbureau> ikonia- curiosity what command did he use to see speed of cpu ?
[11:08] <ikonia> Dreamglider: yeah, do something that makes it busy
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Both for Windows Server and Linux
[11:08] <ikonia> pbureau: looked like /proc/cpuinfo
[11:08] <chris218_> can anyone help me?
[11:08] <bouter> _bart_ ?
[11:09] <Dreamglider> ikonia, so it speeds up when cpu power is needed and slows down when ideal !
[11:09] <ikonia> yup
[11:09] <ikonia> thats how it saves power
[11:09] <bmk> ok reinstalling gave the option
[11:09] <Dreamglider> allright
[11:09] <bouter> _bart_ I' ve tried this link  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[11:09] <PaSurf> ikonia:  well, I am able to select the keyboard and key up and down.  But when I get to the ipaddress section, I press the num lock key, and keyboard stops.  This keyboard is working on a ubuntu system right now with no problems.  The keyboard and mouse are both usb
[11:10] <briancann> erUSUL: ive tried from a live cd doing "sudo grub" then in grub terminal "find /boot/grub/stage1" then "root (hd0,1)" then "setup (hd0)" then "quit" and reboot
[11:10] <ikonia> maybe hardware issue with the server
[11:10] <_bart_> bouter, I run a source system, sorry
[11:10] <bmk> ikonia: i had to reinstall the program. sorry for being an utter newbie
[11:10] <bouter> _bart_    but I'm stuck here  deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main aiglx          and here    wget http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -        these addresses aren' t right
[11:10] <bouter> oh ok
[11:10] <PaSurf> ikonia:  could I expect different issues with the server install vs the desktop install?  Do the same drivers get loaded at boot?
[11:10] <bouter> _bart_ nm then
[11:11] <ikonia> yes
[11:11] <ikonia> bouter: you'll get better help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:11] <SurfnKid> !ati
[11:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <bouter> ikonia  aha  thanx
[11:11] <bmk> i read that i have to partition my hd to have both windows and linux
[11:11] <briancann> erUSUL: you still there?
[11:12] <bmk> ikonia: is that hard to do
[11:12] <erUSUL> briancann: and that have failed? can you post the outpuy of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' ?
[11:12] <erUSUL> !paste | briancann
[11:12] <ubotu> briancann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <briancann> k
[11:12] <SurfnKid> ATI driver is working on my laptop, however the screen saver appears to be using the open source linux driver, how can I enable all the screensavers to use the fglrx OpenGL driver?
[11:12] <ls500de> Hallo, guten Abend!
[11:13] <ikonia> SurfnKid: reconfigure xorg
[11:13] <pbureau> network question : anyone have a networked HDD (with IP address) , and access the mp3's on it (yes I can access the network drive just fine any other way than with xmms, amarok gtkpod and aikel.. any thoughts or suggestions to fool the software (no network drives access on file loading screens) to think it is a local drive instead of a network drive (p.s. I have 12,800 mp3's I am not copying them to the laptop)
[11:13] <SurfnKid> ikonia: oh no i cant do that
[11:13] <AnRkey> IntuitiveNipple: do u think that an 11 Adaptec 2400A card will be easy enough to get running on Ubuntu? I am looking for the easiest way to move my windows box with a promise SX4060 card to an Ubuntu box with the same set of 4 x 200gb drives... what u think?
[11:13] <SurfnKid> the specific instructions say I dont
[11:13] <shatrat> servus, I think you need #ubuntu-de though ls500de
[11:13] <ikonia> pbureau: whats the problem ?
[11:13] <briancann> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3014/
[11:13] <AnRkey> ikonia: no comment required :D
[11:13] <ls500de> Thx, first time in this chat. Bye
[11:14] <mabus> ls500de: kbai
[11:14] <chris218> i need help with server ed please
[11:14] <bmk> ikonia: does the live cd have an hd partitioner on it?
[11:14] <ikonia> chris218: whats server ed
[11:14] <chris218> ubuntu server edition
[11:15] <ikonia> chris218: ask the quesiton
[11:15] <pbureau> ikonia-  well the mp3 player software don't import (limitation I guess) from a networked HDD... is there a way around that (fool program to see the drive as a local drive?
[11:15] <ikonia> pbureau: how does it know network/none-network - it should just be mount points
[11:15] <pbureau> ikonia- amarok does work for that function but cannot see my mp3 player
[11:15] <SurfnKid> ATI driver is working on my laptop, however the screen saver appears to be using the open source linux driver, how can I enable all the screensavers to use the fglrx OpenGL driver?
[11:15] <chris218> im starting up the comp, just got it installed. after it goes through uncompressing linux and booting kernel, it gets stuck for a bit and comes up with "alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell"
[11:16] <ikonia> chris218: have you messed around with your kernel
[11:16] <chris_shafto> which of the video card drivers d i choose?
[11:16] <briancann> erUSUL: did u get that output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3014/
[11:16] <chris218> havent messed with the kernel
[11:16] <ikonia> chris_shafto: the one thats best for you hardware needs
[11:16] <erUSUL> briancann: it should have worked... btw where is the win partition? can you try other methods from the how to? the one i used (and worked for me) is: Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[11:16] <SurfnKid> !screensaver
[11:16] <Pirate-king> anybody download podcasts????
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <pbureau> ikonia- nope the drive is on the network (has its on IP address)
[11:16] <ikonia> chris218: bottom line is - it can't see your hard disks. this is either because your chipset is not supported or the hardidks has a fault
[11:16] <ikonia> pbureau: shouldn't be on an ip - should be mounted
[11:17] <AnRkey> ok outa here, thanks every1 for the help
[11:17] <pbureau> ikonia-  its a stand alone NETWORK DRIVER
[11:17] <chris_shafto> well i got an Nvidia 6600 and the options are sisusb, tdfx, tga, trident, tseng, vesa?
[11:17] <ikonia> network driver ?
[11:17] <chris218> alright thanks ikonia. ill try another hdd
[11:17] <briancann> erUSUL: i deleted that partition all together
[11:17] <pbureau> ikonia- it has an ip ...
[11:17] <briancann> erUSUL: the win one
[11:21] <ikonia> pbureau: is the network drive a seperate device or a drive in an ubuntu server
[11:21] <pbureau> ikonia- if I do places - network server - then I see it fine (and I can access fine..)
[11:21] <pbureau> ikonia-  yep stand alone device on the network like my printer is
[11:21] <ikonia> pbureau: thats because your not mounting the drive
[11:21] <erUSUL> briancann: i see...
[11:21] <ikonia> you need to mount it
[11:21] <pbureau> ikonia- okay.. for the record, you DONT mount network drives
[11:21] <LjL> pbureau: wrong
[11:21] <ikonia> pbureau: you clearly know it all......come back when you want to chat
[11:21] <LjL> pbureau: you mount both NFS and Samba shares. probably the same for other protocols.
[11:21] <pbureau> LjL- why do I need to mount a network drive ? I can see it through  the network file browser..... I dont understand,
[11:21] <pbureau> ikonia-  apologise if I offended..
[11:21] <LjL> pbureau: ever heard of the GNOME virtual filesystem?
[11:21] <ikonia> pbureau: perhaps thats what you should have asked before shooting me down with "for the record you don't do...blah blah"
[11:21] <adamonline45> I think Ubuntu is that user friendly... you don't need to 'mount' your floppy either ;)
[11:21] <LjL> pbureau: well, you should perhaps tone down a little (ikonia should too at times IMHO)
[11:21] <lftl> how would I go about disabling the boot splash screen in edgy if I'm using lilo instead of grub?
[11:21] <LjL> pbureau: Linux has a filesystem framework. GNOME and KDE add others of their own, because they feel like doing that
[11:21] <erUSUL> pbureau: it is done automatically for you "under the hoods"
[11:21] <ikonia> LjL: I don't welcome people asking for help then "knowing it all"
[11:21] <LjL> ikonia: not talking about this case in particular...
[11:21] <pbureau> wait a minute if I can see it (as a network drive with amarok, why cant I see the network drive from xmms then?
[11:21] <pbureau> confused...
[11:21] <LjL> anyway pbureau, the fact that you can browse the drive in a GNOME VFS simply means that the GNOME VFS driver is seeing it. it doesn't mean it can actually be used as a *Linux* filesystem
[11:21] <ikonia> LjL: neither am I, I have no patience for people who a.) won't do anything them selves b.) no better than the people they are asking for help
[11:22] <ikonia> pbureau: if you want to fool your device - you'll have to mount it
[11:22] <ikonia> its that simple
[11:22] <merlinregis> hello, I have a problem
[11:22] <Spritz> any IRC channel for ubuntu/sparc?
[11:22] <LjL> pbureau: because Amarok supports the KDE kio infrastructure (that's the same thing as gnome's VFS, but for KDE), and xmms doesn't
[11:22] <ikonia> then the os treats it like a local file system
[11:22] <pbureau> ikonia- Ihave been working the web for 4 days on this problem.. again sorry about the tone
[11:22] <jimmy20013> Guys how do I change my DNS server settings and make them stay. Mine change to my routers IP(caching proxy) everytime I close the networking window
[11:22] <ikonia> accepted
[11:22] <ikonia> jimmy20013: edit nsswitch.conf
[11:23] <jimmy20013> ikonia: Thanks
[11:23] <ikonia> change your dhclient.conf file to not pickup dns servers
[11:23] <ikonia> either way is fine
[11:23] <pbureau> LjL-  okay then how do I mount this network drive then ?
[11:23] <ikonia> pbureau: what file system is it running
[11:23] <ikonia> or what OS is the host thats sharing it running
[11:23] <briancann> erUSUL: any joy
[11:23] <briancann> ?
[11:23] <pbureau> ikonia- It was a windows drive under xp I beleive ntfs
[11:24] <ikonia> briancann: grub root(hd0,0) setup (hd0)
[11:24] <LjL> pbureau: then it uses the SMB protocol. you need to mount it as a CIFS drive
[11:24] <LjL> Ubotu, tell pbureau about samba | pbureau, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:24] <piranesi> scusate, se io volessi installare beryl 0.1.4 (proprio questa versione) come potrei fare? (cmq non ho ben kiaro il concetto di SVN)
[11:24] <ikonia> pbureau: ok - so you want to mount it over samba
[11:24] <LjL> !it | piranesi
[11:24] <ubotu> piranesi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:24] <merlinregis> I installed addons to python2.4 but the installation crashed... I conpletely deleted python 2.4 which means that I don't have anymore the ubuntu GUI... how can I reinstall it without deleting what's already installed?
[11:24] <LjL> pbureau: sudo mount -t cifs //servername/share /media/whatever -o username=someone
[11:24] <erUSUL> briancann: it should have worked... btw where is the win partition? can you try other methods from the how to? the one i used (and worked for me) is: Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[11:25] <piranesi> sorry I wrong the window
[11:25] <Senesence> How can I get Totem to play embeded quicktime video?
[11:25] <chris_shafto> someone please help me change my screen res?
[11:25] <chris_shafto> the one i want aint in the list
[11:25] <darwinawards> Senesence, install gstreamer-something-ffmpeg
[11:26] <darwinawards> Senesence, or just install totem-xine and libxine0-extracodecs (I think)
[11:26] <Trixsey> Will the next version of Ubuntu come with KDE4?
[11:26] <jimmy20013> ikonia: I change the line that says hosts: files dns mdns to dns mdns files, right?
[11:26] <Trixsey> err.. other way around
[11:26] <Trixsey> will KDE4 come with the next version of Ubuntu?
[11:26] <Trixsey> Kubuntu even
[11:26] <briancann> erUSUL: do u have the link
[11:26] <Senesence> darwinawards: So which should I do?
[11:26] <ikonia> jimmy20013: no
[11:26] <darwinawards> Senesence, your choice really
[11:26] <ikonia> jimmy20013: what file did you change
[11:26] <alecjw> hi. how do i canhge my gnome splash screen?
[11:26] <darwinawards> you can either get the xine edition of totem or install more gstreamer plugins
[11:27] <jimmy20013> ikonia: I haven't. I am looking at the nsswitch.conf file
[11:27] <darwinawards> or, install mplayer :-P
[11:27] <Senesence> darwinawards: Is anything marginally better for me?
[11:27] <ikonia> jimmy20013: I told you to change /etc/resolv.conf
[11:27] <briancann> !grub
[11:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:27] <darwinawards> Senesence, totem-xine is probably better as gstreamer sucks for everything
[11:27] <erUSUL> briancann: it is the same i already gave you
[11:27] <jimmy20013> ikonia: jimmy20013: edit nsswitch.conf
[11:27] <preaction> darwinawards: the 0.10 release of gstreamer works surprisingly well, and i'd recommend its use
[11:27] <briancann> k
[11:27] <darwinawards> preaction, :-\
[11:27] <ikonia> jimmy20013: apologies - /etc/resolv.conf
[11:28] <jimmy20013> ikonia: thats alright. Thanks
[11:28] <merlinregis> hello?
[11:28] <preaction> darwinawards: given that you enable multivers and install the gstreamer-0.10-good -bad and -ugly plugins
[11:28] <darwinawards> preaction, gstreamer have working dvd now?
[11:28] <darwinawards> it didn't before (with all the plugins)
[11:28] <linuxero_> enverex!
[11:29] <preaction> darwinawards: can't say that i've exactly tried it, i end up streaming DVDs over samba to my windows box so i can see them on the tv
[11:29] <linuxero_> I can test program and say it
[11:29] <darwinawards> preaction, :-\
[11:29] <pbureau> okay I tried sudo mount -t cifs //storage-1d4d /media/nwdrive -o username=pbureau and I get Mounting the DFS root for a particular server not implemented yet... does that  mean I cannot do it ?
[11:29] <preaction> darwinawards: an HDTV will make people do crazy things ;)
[11:29] <jatt> what a relieve... I've just realized the following error was from the CD-ROM drive and not from my hard disk, I thought my hard disk was hosed :)
[11:29] <jatt> [  137.476726]  hdb: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[11:30] <tacticalcron> Can anyone assist on a tvtime/WinTV USB question?
[11:30] <jatt> but it is strange though, there is no CD in the drive, but the error should not be triggered I guess. (I am using dapper).
[11:30] <darwinawards> preaction, with Vista, HDTV won't work unless you use DRM :-\
[11:30] <alecjw> how do i change my gnome splash screen?
[11:30] <preaction> darwinawards: well aware, i'll never be buying another windows OS again anyway. i don't care what my job requires me to support. if necessary i'll use parallels on my osx lappy (which is how i'm running ubuntu most of the time anyway)
[11:31] <junmin> hi, guys, how do you type spanish?  like a,e,i,o,u with acent ..
[11:31] <Atomiku> Hi, I can't seem to install FreeNX, So i'm just gonna give up. Is there anything else like FreeNX I can install that works fast (Over a LAN)?
[11:31] <preaction> alecjw: there's an article on art.gnome.org that tells how
[11:31] <darwinawards> preaction, wine!
[11:31] <merlinregis> do I just wait or do I need to repost my problem?
[11:31] <jatt> junmin: 
[11:31] <Atomiku> merlinregis: wait about 5-10 minutes, if ya dont get a responce then repost
[11:31] <darwinawards> alecjw, ln -s <splashfilepath> /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[11:31] <merlinregis> thanks Atomiku
[11:31] <junmin> jatt, how can you do it?
[11:32] <preaction> darwinawards: overrated, and i might actually need to see the OS for support issues (the pebkac runs deep around here)
[11:32] <briancann> im going to eat my own face
[11:32] <darwinawards> preaction, hmm
[11:32] <kelsin> merlinregis: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" should get everything back
[11:32] <Senesence> Irony: after removing gstreamer and installing xine, I can get embedded windows player movies to play, but not quicktime.
[11:32] <Mba7eth> ls
[11:32] <Mba7eth> hi all
[11:32] <Manna> Hey guys, sorry if I am in the wrong spot... But I am wanting to get into Unbuntu
[11:32] <LjL> Manna: ubuntu
[11:32] <ardchoille42> Manna, You're in the right place :)
[11:33] <tacticalcron> Can anyone assist on a tvtime/WinTV USB question?
[11:33] <briancann> erUSUL: I STILL CANT GET THE THING WORKING
[11:33] <adamonline45> Is there an easy way to use a local GUI-based editor to edit a remote text file via ssh?
[11:33] <briancann> oops
[11:33] <Manna> but I was wondering... is it possible to install Ubuntu with XP already installed without deleting my current files?
[11:33] <Atomiku> Manna: Yes
[11:33] <Manna> Ahh!
[11:33] <Manna> w00t
[11:33] <alecjw> darwinawards: isn't there a graphical way?
[11:33] <Manna> Do you possibly know of a guide I can read?
[11:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Manna about dualboot | Manna, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:33] <darwinawards> alecjw, god.... what's with the cli-phobia?
[11:33] <darwinawards> it's one command
[11:33] <yetty> get a prob installing a torrent app
[11:33] <Manna> Thank you
[11:34] <yetty> can some one help me
[11:34] <merlinregis> kelsin, I guess I put that from the console mode when I reboot?
[11:34] <erUSUL> briancann: shouting at me  will not get you any near to the solution either
[11:34] <name> yetty: could you specify that a bit?
[11:34] <jatt> junmin: I didn't configure anything special. I do use en_US.UTF-8 locale... AFAIK ubuntu should work out of the box for accents. Do the accents work in your case from the console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1)?
[11:34] <alecjw> darwinawards: i havent got anythign against the terminal, but some people might
[11:34] <Mba7eth> guys why when i use realplayer to play some media i can control the sound from it . I mean the speaker will go on even if i muted the sound ?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to change the OpenGL driver in screensaver?
[11:34] <Atomiku> Is there anything else like FreeNX I can install that works fast (Over a LAN)?
[11:34] <darwinawards> alecjw, well, they better learn it - it's the backbone of linux
[11:34] <darwinawards> backbone, core, whatever - you can't know linux without knowing the command line
[11:35] <Atomiku> I've Tried VNC... that works fairly slow
[11:35] <darwinawards> Atomiku, get a faster net, cpu, memory, net, etc
[11:35] <erUSUL> briancann: i do not know whay it is failing at you, it worked for me and this how to have worked for many others
[11:35] <yetty> well i cant install any torrent app coz keep on getting error msg`s when trying to run a torrent.file
[11:35] <Manna> I must say, you guys are awesome! Thank you very much =).
[11:35] <ardchoille42> alecjw, Open the gconf-editor, go to apps/gnome-seesion and have a look at the splash_image key.
[11:35] <briancann> erUSUL: that was by accident
[11:35] <briancann> oops
[11:35] <Dreamglider> why is my video playback jerky/lagg, i play the files of the harddisk
[11:35] <Thug-N-Me> shouldnt " sudo " let me do whatever i want ?
[11:35] <Thug-N-Me> /bin/sh: cannot create auto-ccld.sh: Permission denied
[11:35] <merlinregis> Manna, I totally agree with you :)
[11:35] <ardchoille42> alecjw, Sorry, that's apps.gnome-session/options
[11:35] <yetty> sorry very new to linux
[11:35] <SurfnKid> could I change the OpenGL driver from the screen saver on gconf??
[11:36] <erUSUL> briancann: maybe the fact that you deleted the first partition is confusin grub, try creating a blank partition in the empty space and try again
[11:36] <Thug-N-Me> yetty install azureus
[11:36] <linux_kid> I was trying to clean up my wine files and thought, "Why not use CCleaner" (CCleaner is a windows program that rids your system of unnessary files).  After anylizing, it found 600-some MB to be deleted.  After it started, it exited out.  I tryed agian and the same.  Is this a protection layer in wine?  If so, can it be disabled?
[11:36] <yetty> tried azureus
[11:36] <yetty> wont update
[11:37] <Thug-N-Me> yetty and ? update what ?
[11:37] <Ti1> what is the proper syntax to set apt-config http proxy?
[11:37] <SurfnKid> could I change the OpenGL driver from the screen saver on gconf??
[11:37] <antisocial_boris> hey, i am currently install ubuntu
[11:37] <junmin> jatt, in console ... dont know .. really dont know how to type them out, how do you type?? i have  en_us.UTF.8 too
[11:37] <patbam> hi, how can i restart nautilus?
[11:37] <ikonia> SurfnKid: do it through X
[11:37] <merlinregis> kelsin, thanks... I'll go try it in console mode and only come back if it doesn't work... :)
[11:37] <yetty> after it installs it performs an update but wont installed
[11:38] <antisocial_boris> i am at the repartitioning stage but it wont let me manage the flags to make my root partition bootable
[11:38] <ablyss> Dreamglider: several factors could cause that
[11:38] <antisocial_boris> how can i make it bootable?
[11:38] <yetty> azuzuers
[11:38] <Thug-N-Me> yetty  dont update it then .. works fine without too
[11:38] <SurfnKid> ikonia: what u mean?
[11:38] <jordan_mega_game> i dunno about your setup, but my setup made the root partition bootable by default
[11:38] <yetty> cool good, i`ll give it a try
[11:39] <SurfnKid> ikonia: my OpenGL driver is working fine, but Im trying to see where I can edit/modify the OpenGL driver for my screen saver
[11:39] <antisocial_boris> ok
[11:39] <Atomiku> Hi, I installed VNC but when I access it from my computer all I see is a terminal window... is there a way to get the FULL desktop?
[11:39] <patbam> actually i'm not sure if nautilus has crashed or what; i still have the panels but nothing on my desktop & nothing if i right click it
[11:39] <jatt> junmin: in xorg.conf I do have a german keyboard configured ("XkbLayout" "de"), I just press the ' key and then the letter to get a letter with accent).
[11:39] <antisocial_boris> if i have my ubuntu all on one extended partition will it boot /?
[11:39] <ikonia> SurfnKid: you do it through xorg
[11:39] <ikonia> not the screen saver
[11:39] <Ti1> What is the proper syntax for setting apt-config's http proxy??
[11:39] <chris_shafto> Need help installing Nvidia Drivers please
[11:39] <darwinawards> yetty, best way to use azureus is to download it from the webpage
[11:39] <erUSUL> antisocial_boris: there is no special need for the root partition to be marked bootable. only the partition that has grub instaled (and only in case that you do not instaled it to the mbr) need to be marked bootable
[11:39] <darwinawards> although, doing that requires j2re
[11:39] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help me install gChess, please?
[11:40] <darwinawards> superkirbyartist, what's the problem? apt-get not working?
[11:40] <tacticalcron> chris_shafto: Goto http://www.ubuntuguide.org, good directions there..
[11:40] <linux_kid> antisocial_boris: non-primary partitions are not bootble.  You can make up to 4 primary partitions
[11:40] <jordan_mega_game> my ubuntu is all in an extended partition, it boots fine...
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> patbam: Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:40] <SurfnKid> ikonia: but my xorg is configured correctly do you mean for my screensaver setup? what section should i edit
[11:40] <junmin> jatt, oh,...get it.
[11:40] <patbam> thank you mr nipple
[11:41] <ikonia> SurfnKid: nothing
[11:41] <antisocial_boris> whilst i am here if i set up with three partitions /, /home, and /swap how much space is it best to give /?
[11:41] <ikonia> your screensaver config comes from xorg
[11:41] <ikonia> antisocial_boris: depends what you want
[11:41] <antisocial_boris> it says minimun 2 gig
[11:41] <superkirbyartist> darwinawards: Sudo apt-get install gchess is the command?
[11:41] <Dreamglider> what can i do to UN jerk my video playback ?
[11:41] <SurfnKid> ikonia: didnt understand you
[11:41] <ikonia> antisocial_boris: ok
[11:41] <antisocial_boris> so ~3 gig is good?
[11:41] <darwinawards> superkirbyartist, tried it?
[11:41] <radar1976> testing...
[11:42] <ikonia> SurfnKid: you don't edit your screen saver configs
[11:42] <jordan_mega_game> depends on how much software you'll be adding
[11:42] <ikonia> SurfnKid: opengl / dri is enabled / disabled in the xserver
[11:42] <ikonia> not the screen saver
[11:42] <tacticalcron> superkirbyartist: Yes, that should work.
[11:42] <SurfnKid> I see
[11:42] <tacticalcron> superkirbyartist: Also try - apt-cache search gchess to see if it's available.
[11:43] <tacticalcron> superkirbyartist: Otherwise, you may need to add repositories..
[11:43] <sico> Can anyone help me? I am trying to run a game (Quake 1) and am using the ezquake and the fuhquake clients.  Fuhquake works fine, but Ezquake has choppy sound.  Any ideas?
[11:44] <Pie-rate> usplash is all messed up, anyone know why?
[11:44] <ikonia> Pie-rate: give us more details
[11:44] <frogmanjack> hi, is there any way to put my computer to sleep (i.e., suspend it) and then have it wake up automatically to record a tv show?
[11:44] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, as in the boot splash?
[11:44] <ikonia> eg: my cake doesn't taste nice - why
[11:44] <SurfnKid> ikonia: ok i think i get you, even though OpenGL is enabled for xserver, it might not be for screensaver?
[11:44] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: yes
[11:44] <ikonia> SurfnKid: no - you so don't get it
[11:44] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, dunno, try regenerating it?
[11:44] <SurfnKid> haha
[11:45] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: how?
[11:45] <ikonia> SurfnKid: you enable/disable dri in Xserver, then its enabled/disabled for anything
[11:45] <SurfnKid> ikonia: my glxinfo comes out with the ATI driver
[11:45] <dxdt> sico, check the options of ezquake, though I've never used it, it might let you select which sound system.  If that's the case, maybe it is set to the wrong one.  Try setting it between alsa and OSS maybe and see if one works better.  (for me doom works with OSS but has choppy sound with alsa even though I use alsa for EVERYTHING else)
[11:45] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, try sudo apt-get install --reisntall usplash
[11:45] <SurfnKid> let me check dri one sec
[11:45] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall usplash *
[11:45] <bamzin> hi! im trying to download a new alsa-driver .bz2 file on my edgy, but when asking ./configure i receive this msg: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". do anyone know what does it mean?
[11:45] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: done that.
[11:45] <sico> dxdt: ok, thanks
[11:45] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, doesn't help?
[11:45] <dxdt> SurfnKid, fglrxinfo should give useful information if running the official ATI drivers as well.
[11:46] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: also when i do that it changes it in the 386 file, not the generic one that i'm using.
[11:46] <erUSUL> bamzin: install build-essential
[11:46] <SurfnKid> dxdt: yes all that works fine, my ATI driver is working perfet
[11:46] <Atomiku> Hi, I installed VNC but when I access it from my computer all I see is a terminal window... is there a way to get the FULL desktop?
[11:46] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, hmm... ah well
[11:46] <Atomiku> plus the fonts dont look right
[11:46] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: i'd be happy with removing it if i could get it out of the generic thing
[11:46] <pccsms> check this out,its a new ubuntu webblog at:www.smouse-online.org
[11:46] <SurfnKid> however the screensaver is grasping the generic 'ati' open source drivers, and I need it to grasp the fglrx proprietary driver so I can see true OpenGL
[11:46] <bamzin> erUSUL: thansk!
[11:46] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, the splash is not built into the kernel
[11:46] <SurfnKid> ikonia: dri mode is 0666
[11:47] <darwinawards> you can also edit menu.lst and turn off splash
[11:47] <ikonia> SurfnKid: what does that have to do with anything
[11:47] <grndslm> i'm trying to get svn for beryl working, and i need to install dependencies, but apt-get build-dep beryl gives me this:  E: Unable to find a source package for beryl-core... even tho the deb-src repos are in the sources.list file
[11:47] <ikonia> SurfnKid: thats just a permissions mode for the module
[11:48] <tacticalcron> bamzin: Clarification - "apt-get install build-essential"
[11:48] <pccsms> does anyone know how to get the latest nvidia drivers?
[11:48] <Ti1> Need help using apt-config
[11:48] <SurfnKid> ikonia: before I installed the ATI driver from the help section, i did a test and the open source ati driver was giving me high fps rates
[11:48] <jatt> !ask
[11:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:48] <ikonia> SurfnKid: and.... ?
[11:48] <tacticalcron> pccsms: http://www.ubuntuguide.org, good directions there..
[11:48] <pccsms> ok thank you
[11:49] <Ti1> !list
[11:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:49] <Dreamglider> when i play video in full screen it is as if the framerate is 4frames a second, it is somewhat better when not in fullscreen and the smaller the picture the better it plays
[11:49] <SurfnKid> ikonia: as soon as I compiled and installed the ATI driver, that all changed, the screensaver is choppy, even with the current and correct ATI driver
[11:49] <ikonia> SurfnKid: the ati drivers are closed source, so I don't know how you "compiled" them. they are 3rd party drivers that are famous for being poor
[11:49] <SurfnKid> ikonia: i remember there was a section in the screensavers wher eyou could chose mesa,ati,vga,fglrx as the rendering driver, thats what i need, that is exacctly what i need
[11:50] <SurfnKid> ikonia: i just followed the instructions to do them *.deb build and install, maybe not compile
[11:50] <ikonia> SurfnKid: that doesn't exist
[11:50] <SurfnKid> ikonia: yes it does in the xscreensaver it has a section
[11:50] <pccsms> hey tacticalcron,there is a new ubuntu webblog at www.smouse-online.org,the guy is new at blogging but i think its pretty cool
[11:50] <SurfnKid> but in Edgy it has no section anywhere
[11:50] <electronro> hello
[11:50] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: well why doesn't apt-get remove usplash remove it?
[11:50] <ikonia> SurfnKid: it doesn't in 6.0.6
[11:50] <adamwest> ..anyone noticed the updates just now?
[11:50] <SurfnKid> ikonia: correct, you have to install xscreensaver
[11:50] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, the splash file is still installed
[11:50] <deafboy> whats the best software to rip copy protected movies in linux?
[11:51] <SurfnKid> anyway
[11:51] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: why do i get usplash when i boot generic and not when i boot 386?
[11:51] <darwinawards> also, it never hurts to have usplash installed
[11:51] <darwinawards> deafboy, err.....
[11:51] <darwinawards> deafboy, as in DVDs with CSS?
[11:51] <deafboy> yeah
[11:51] <deafboy> and that new shit too
[11:51] <superkirbyartist> No output when I apt-cache, tacticalcron
[11:51] <deafboy> *stuf
[11:51] <electronro> i hawe tryed the ultimate edition and i cant find my sata partitions on hdd...where can it be?
[11:51] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:51] <darwinawards> and also, look at the files in /boot
[11:51] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: it installs it in /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[11:52] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: i want it to remove it from /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[11:52] <Pie-rate> darwinawards: or i at least want it to work
[11:52] <darwinawards> Pie-rate, I *think* you can just rename or remove the file
[11:52] <deafboy> darwinawards: do you know what program rips movies with css in linux?
[11:52] <darwinawards> or, you could just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add "nosplash"
[11:52] <darwinawards> deafboy, plenty
[11:52] <gop> !edgy
[11:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[11:53] <darwinawards> deafboy, acidrip, decss, libdvdcss2, k9copy, dvdrip
[11:53] <zipper> Is it possible to use nick colour in every nick in irssi? Like in x-chat and/or konversation?
[11:53] <justin420> anybody recommend a good pci wifi card that supports wpa2 psk? i have a linksys wrt54gx2 version 2 wifi router i would like to connect to from my ubuntu box, and would like the pci wifi card to just work, no hassles.
[11:53] <pbureau> okay I am trying to mount a network stand alone drive smb://storage-1d4d with an ip of 192.168.1.7, so I use the following command -> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.7/PUBLIC/music/ /media/nwdrive -o username=guest , I get the password query, then I get this error message and I am usure where the problem lies (error - mount error 5 = Input/output error) the man mount.cifs manual does talk about the error in question
[11:53] <deafboy> darwinawards: what about the new AcroSS or whatever crap sony puts out?
[11:53] <darwinawards> deafboy, don't use it
[11:54] <Thug-N-Me> how do i get a list with all installed packages ?
[11:54] <darwinawards> deafboy, seriously, cracking is a temporary fix - the permanent one is to not buy stuff with DRM on it
[11:54] <deafboy> darwinawards: no im saying its new copy proetction
[11:54] <pbureau> Thug-N-Me- if you use gnome, system - admin synaptic manager
[11:54] <darwinawards> deafboy, is it the new version of css? try, I think it still supports it
[11:54] <zipper> darwinawards: i bet you dont buy a lot of cd's
[11:54] <deafboy> darwinawards: how am i supposed to buy movies with no DRM lol?
[11:54] <jordan_mega_game> Can someone help me find a graphics benchmarking tool?
[11:54] <Thug-N-Me> pbureau wanna put that list into a text file
[11:54] <darwinawards> zipper, cds don't have drm
[11:55] <darwinawards> deafboy, download em, don't buy em, buy free ones, dunno - it's about sacrifice
[11:55] <virtu> anyone knows a good "emule" for Ubuntu?
[11:55] <darwinawards> virtu, frostwire
[11:55] <erUSUL> virtu: amule
[11:55] <darwinawards> amule*
[11:55] <virtu> ok thnals
[11:55] <virtu> thanks
[11:55] <pbureau> virtu- check http://www.freshmeat.net/ for software
[11:55] <zipper> darwinawards: sorry, weren't clear on that. Meant albums. English isnt my native language.
[11:56] <darwinawards> zipper, err... so buy non-drm'ed media... *duh*
[11:56] <electronro> i'd like ubuntu at first test but where are the partitions of my sata hard/
[11:56] <Thug-N-Me> how do i get a list with all installed packages ?
[11:56] <darwinawards> electronro, /dev/sda*
[11:56] <darwinawards> or, actually, /dev/sdXY
[11:56] <Thug-N-Me> pbureau no clue how to do that , have you ?
[11:56] <zipper> darwinawards: i mean, afaik was/is allofmp3.com the only place you can get music without any form of drm?
[11:56] <darwinawards> zipper, emusic I think
[11:56] <darwinawards> they also do mp3s
[11:56] <electronro> darwinawards: thanks but how can i mount it in a grafical way??
[11:56] <Thug-N-Me> pbureau done , thanks
[11:56] <pbureau> Thug-N-Me- not really...  to be honest...
[11:57] <darwinawards> electronro, why are you afraid of using a terminal?
[11:57] <darwinawards> afaik, the graphical disk mounter was taken out of edgy
[11:57] <electronro> darwinawards: i m a newbie :(
[11:57] <subzero2000> justin420 -> I use a Linksys WMP54GS in my Desktop machine, and using Network Manager in Gnome, I have no problem connecting to my WRT54GS router using WPA2 PSK with AES encryption. I forget exactly how I got the driver setup, but once I did, Network Manager took care of the rest of it, prompting for WPA2 key and everything.
[11:57] <darwinawards> electronro, it's not hard mount -t <filesystemtype> <partitionpath> <emptyfolderpath>
[11:58] <zipper> electronro: you're gonna use the terminal at some point of another. From my own experience, the terminal gives you a much deeper understanding on whats going on behind the pretty gui's.
[11:58] <yellow> hey guys, i just installed tomcat, and i have this problem when i tried to run it ?
[11:58] <yellow> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/catalina/startup/Bootstrap
[11:58] <yellow> Using CATALINA_BASE:   /var/lib/tomcat5
[11:58] <yellow> Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat5
[11:58] <yellow> Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /var/lib/tomcat5/temp
[11:58] <yellow> Using JAVA_HOME:       /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[11:58] <yellow> Using Security Manager
[11:58] <justin420> thanks subzero2000 :)
[11:58] <yellow> anyone knows what this is ?
[11:58] <riotkittie> yeah, why /are/ people so intimidated by the command line?  <hugs it>
[11:58] <superkirbyartist> Did anyone try gChess on Ubuntu yet?
[11:58] <variant> electronro: you can add hte panel app
[11:59] <darwinawards> !pastebin > yellow
[11:59] <variant> electronro: right click the panel and select "add to panel" from the resulting menu find "disk mounter" and double click it
[11:59] <subzero2000> justin420 -> That's using Edgy, and I don't recall having to fight much to get the wireless to work. That's a Broadcom 4306 based card, and I imagine Linksys is using something similar in their newer products, although I don't know for certain. I do know that that combination works pretty well for me.
[11:59] <electronro> darwinawards: i know but still now i hawe used an other distro and there the partitions are on desktop and i can mount them easly...klik
[11:59] <tacticalcron> superkirbyartist: I'm not seeing any available .deb package.
[12:00] <electronro> variant: thx
[12:00] <darwinawards> electronro, edit fstab and they'll be automounted (they should be anyway)
[12:00] <variant> yellow: yes, the program you tried to run is miss configured, or the java runtime is miss configured
[12:00] <adaptr> I am trying to get my miss configured
[12:00] <electronro> darwinawards: thx,i'll try
[12:00] <variant> yellow: means java couldnt find the "main" class for that program'
[12:00] <yellow> variant, I installed the package of tomcat tomcat-admin, etc, from the repository
[12:00] <tacticalcron> superkirbyartist: However, you may be able to find the latest .rpm package, and process it through "alien".