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adamwestbut really, no one talks in ##gnome AT ALL and at ubuntu --- it's just a wrong time for me :P12:28
maxamillionadamwest: #ubuntu is a zoo 24/7 .... but it looks like you are running gentoo in that screenshot ... why not ask there?12:28
gunny01 tonyyarusso: is there anything special I have to make it accessable to others on the network?12:29
tonyyarussogunny01: Tell them you're IP address.  Do you mean for them to see the pages, or to have write priviledges for it?  What are the specifics of your setup?12:29
drx0drx0drx0max, my option is to choose a different path, like /dev/hdc2 or /dev/evm/hdc212:29
adamwestthat's not my screenshot:) that's a theme, maxamillion12:30
adamwest:P12:30
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drx0drx0drx0max, i tried both, but neither worked so I don't know what to enter... i can enter something else.12:30
gunny01 tonyyarusso: I want them to see the pages. I have A linux box 2 winxp boxes connected by a router.12:31
tonyyarussogunny01: Then you shouldn't need to do much else.  Make sure that anything you put in /var/www/ is chmodded a+rx, but other than that, you're all set.12:32
gunny01 tonyyarusso: how do I find out my ip?12:33
tonyyarussogunny01: Internal (LAN) IP or global (accessible outside of network) IP?12:33
gunny01internal12:33
tonyyarussoUse the 'ifconfig' command.12:34
tonyyarussoYou can test it by putting http://the.ip.it.says in your browser.12:34
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gunny01thnx12:35
Jester45hello12:36
GryfftI've got a broadcom card in this laptop, so that means ndiswrapper. I've done everything right so far as I can tell... and it's still not working.12:36
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maxamillionGryfft: doesn't always mean ndiswrapper ... what chipset is it?12:37
maxamillionJester45: hiya12:37
GryfftI will be SO HAPPY if it doesn't mean ndiswrapper.12:39
GryfftBut I think it does..  One second while I look up the chipset.12:39
maxamillionokies12:39
Gryfftpci id != chipset, huh.12:40
Gryfftpci id is 14e4:4318.12:41
mark488basic Q: i don't see an md5 checker in the apps menu.  is there one available via terminal?12:42
maxamillionGryfft: its a pcmcia card?12:42
GryfftRemind me what that means?12:43
GryfftIt's integrated, and pci, not usb.12:43
maxamillionyeah12:44
maxamilliondo "lspcmcia | grep Broadcom"12:44
Gryfftnothing happens.12:46
maxamillionuhmmm...12:47
maxamillion"lspci | grep Broadcom"12:48
maxamillionit might be a minipci12:48
Gryfftyeop.12:48
maxamillionwhat's it say?12:48
GryfftBroadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  812.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)12:48
Gryfft802 but you know what I mean.12:49
synicGryfft: I have that same laptop, same card.  It works for me without ndiswrapper12:49
GryfftIn the words of homer simpson: explain how!12:49
synicmodprobe bcm43xx12:49
Gryfftok. no output.12:49
syniciwlist scan12:50
Gryffteth1 pulls up no scan results...12:50
synicis the light on?12:50
Gryfftand for some weird reason it's calling it eth1 rather than wlan0. no ligh.t12:50
synicdmesg12:50
synicyeah, it calls it eth112:50
synicnot all cards come up as wlan12:50
Gryfftthank you. reassurance is a beautiful, beautiful thing.12:51
Gryfftbcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.12:51
Gryfftthe last three lines of the output from dmesg.12:51
synicare you no on edgy?12:51
GryfftXubuntu Edgy, yeah12:51
synicer.. .not12:51
synicinstall bcm43xx-fwcutter12:52
maxamillionstop!!!12:52
maxamillionno no ... bcm4318 needs ndiswrapper12:52
synicmaxamillion: no, it doesn't12:52
Gryfftuh oh...12:52
synicGryfft: install that and give me one sec, I have to find out what you do after that.12:53
maxamillionsynic: yeah, it does ... dell laptops at my work use that minipci card, the issue i assume he is having is that he is loading the wrong driver into ndiswrapper12:53
GryfftOkay..12:53
synicmaxamillion: I have the same card/laptop as he has, and bcm43xx works fine.12:53
synic/usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh  <-- run this12:54
synicrmmod bcm43xx12:54
synicmodprobe bcm43xx12:54
GryfftI think I already installed fwcutter..12:54
Gryffthow would I ascertain that?12:54
synicwouldn't hurt to run it again.12:54
maxamillionthe bcm4318 does work in bcm43xx, but not the minipci from dell... it needs ndiswrapper12:54
GryfftI'm missing a destination file operand. And I'm on a compaq :-)12:55
synicmaxamillion: ah, yeah, in the compaq's, it does infact work12:55
maxamillionsynic: ah, okies12:55
synicGryfft: what is the last line you see when you run that script?12:55
Gryfftthe install?12:55
synicno, this:12:56
synicsudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh12:56
Gryfftsynic: The install hasn't worked, but I'll do that one sec12:56
synicwait, the apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter didn't work?12:56
Gryfftah, I forgot apt-get. selftroutage.12:57
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synichah12:57
GryfftOkayy, it didn't end with an error but there's an error up there in the microcode part..12:58
synicyeah, that one is ok12:58
synicso reload the module, and hopefully it works12:58
Gryfftmodprobe ndiswrapper?12:58
synicrmmod ndiswrapper, then modprobe it again12:58
Gryfftrrmmodding it informed me module ndiswrapper does not exist in proc/modules.01:00
synicer... sorry, bcm43xx01:00
synic<-- retard01:00
Gryfftsok, thanks01:00
synicyeah, make sure ndiswrapper isn't loaded, or it will screw things up01:00
Gryfftoh, ok...01:00
Gryfftrmmod ndiswrapper?01:01
synicyeah01:01
Gryffthow many different ways to I have to kill it?01:01
Gryfftother than rmmod01:01
synicthat's it01:01
drx0drxbtw, what does cloing for autoyast do?01:01
Gryfftok01:01
synicthen reload bcm43xx01:01
maxamillionGryfft: i don't think there is any other way since its a module01:01
Gryfftok. sudo modprobe bcm43xx.01:02
maxamillionGryfft: nobody knows ... yast is like a science fiction novel, it just kinda happens01:02
Gryfftno output.01:02
maxamillionGryfft: shouldn't have output ;)01:02
synicdid the light come on this time?01:02
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GryfftZOMG01:02
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drx0drxTHANK YOU ALL!  That helped me get past the problem.01:02
Gryffthouston, we have a little blue light.01:03
drx0drx(I didn't know I could get away without a second boot loader)01:03
synicGryfft: your iwlist scan should bring up your AP01:03
drx0drxbtw, why don't I get a GUI inside a XEN Linux VM (startx fails)?01:03
Gryffthmm.01:03
GryfftWiFi radar is scanning now...01:04
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Gryfftnothing's coming up, and since I'm on campus I should be getting something :-(01:05
Gryfftbut at least I know the card is online. We're getting there.01:05
synictry pressing the button for the radio01:05
GryfftYES!01:05
Gryffthaha01:05
GryfftI love you01:05
synichaha01:05
maxamillionGryfft: what interface is the wifi card?01:05
GryfftSorry to spam up the channel with joy... uhm, hitting the radio button did it.01:06
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Gryfftiwlist scan still isn't coming up with any results, but WiFi radar is seeing a few connections. Also, is there another package I need to download to connect to WPA?01:10
synicI've never used WPA01:11
synicnetwork-manager-gnome might work01:11
GryfftNow just got to figure out how to acquire an IP address. At least I'm on more familiar footing at this point... what's the command line for scanning the wireless, again?01:12
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maxamillionbah! ... i just found a link for Gryfft01:15
Jester45 A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. <------- i think thats a good one01:15
maxamillionhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo <--- just incase he comes back and i'm not here01:15
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maxamillionGryfft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo <-- WPA how to :)01:15
GryfftSorry, back. Thanks!01:15
maxamillionJester45: but i open windows all the time ... i'm actually walking in a Terminal window using irssi right now :)01:16
maxamillionJester45: should say something like "when you use windows"01:16
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GryfftSo, what was the scan command from the command line again?01:19
syniciwlist scan01:19
ToranOK, I /win close01:20
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Gryfftsynic: can you connect over the command line?01:20
synicyeah, dhclient eth101:20
Gryfftsudo, I tell myself time and again. grr.01:21
maxamillionit will come to you01:21
GryfftIt's like the Simon Says of linux!01:21
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maxamillioni actually catch myself using sudo on my debian server that don't have sudo ... so when i am root doing admin functions i'm like "sudo foo bar" and it spits out "sudo: unrecognized commans" .. its fun01:22
Jester45A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open Windows. <------- i think thats a good one and fixed01:22
Jester45plus maxamillion if i said when you use windows that could still mean a window on *nix but a W fixes that01:23
maxamillionrgr01:23
DarthLappymaxamillion: Why not install sudo on it :)01:24
maxamillionDarthLappy: don't need to, i'm the only one allowed to admin it ... i have another server that i just use ubuntu on because its easier to ad users to the sudo-ers group and have an "admin team"01:24
DarthLappyAha.01:25
Jester45maxamillion: i have the same type of problem i use the "show desktop" button alot01:25
Jester45maxamillion: doesnt work on windows :0 stupid start bar01:25
DarthLappyYou can get show desktop on Windows >_<01:25
Jester45and yes i know i can move the button01:25
Jester45DarthLappy: not at school i cant01:26
DarthLappyUse the shortcut key.01:26
Jester45?01:26
DarthLappyWinkey-D01:26
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Jester45that opens the start menu01:27
DarthLappyNo it doesn't.01:27
Jester45does to01:27
DarthLappyPress them together >_<01:27
Jester45o01:27
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Toranok, so I installed amarok with aptitude, and now it's crashing. What should I do?01:27
ToranFloating point exception (core dumped)01:28
Toran(is the error)01:28
drx0drxI'm root but it won't let me change my NIC settings (ip, etc), the buttons are grayed out.01:29
somerville32Toran: File a bug report01:29
somerville32!bugs | Toran01:29
ubotuToran: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:29
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adamwestguys, my CTRL-ALT-SPACEBAR shortcut doesn't work D:01:31
Jester45huummm01:32
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adamwestctrl-alt-backspace didn't get me to gdm D:01:36
bur[n] ercomposite wasn't part of edgy right?  this is new to feisty?01:38
tonyyarussobur[n] er: It's been available since Dapper, the question is whether it will become default.01:39
bur[n] ertonyyarusso: the composite in xfwm?  I had no idea... i didn't see it in my edgy installation01:40
tonyyarussobur[n] er: Compositing can be done with a few differnt things.  Not sure which is preferred for XFCE01:40
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bur[n] ertonyyarusso: using feisty?  I'll show you a screenshot01:41
maxamillionbur[n] er: no ... composite has been around for a long time, it just isn't enabled by default in edgy01:41
tonyyarussobur[n] er: I am, yes.01:42
bur[n] ermaxamillion: the one in xfce under the "window manager tweaks" ??01:42
maxamillionbur[n] er: yup01:42
maxamillionbur[n] er: in edgy you just have to tweak a couple config files and restart xfwm01:43
bur[n] ercrazy, wish i'd have known01:44
bur[n] eroh well... i've taken teh plunge and it's not so unstable01:44
bur[n] erhttp://localhost/screenshot-xfwm-composite.png01:45
tonyyarussobur[n] er: replace localhost01:45
bur[n] erer... http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot-xfwm-composite.png :)01:45
DarthLappybur[n] er: Nice :)01:46
bur[n] er:)01:46
bur[n] erI'm just trying out iconbox.  i'm not sure if i'll like this taskbarless interface, but macs are neat ;)01:47
maxamillionbur[n] er: yeah, i've actually heard people talk about how feisty has proven to be more stable for them then edgy so far01:49
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drx0drxany of you geniuses know how to make GNOME work in a Xen guest?02:05
bur[n] erI know how to make ubuntu work in a VMWare guest :)  or a virtualbox guest :)02:06
mark488what md5 checker comes w/xubuntu?02:11
DarthLappymd5sum02:12
mark488thanks.  how do i call it?  md5sum filemane #    ?  or will man give that info?02:14
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ShoeUnited!sounds02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:15
ShoeUnited!sound02:15
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:15
ShoeUnited!theme02:16
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:16
ShoeUnited!changethemes02:17
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu02:17
DarthLappyShoeUnited: You can /msg the bot those, y'know :)02:18
somerville32!investigate02:19
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:19
drx0drxI can't start GNOME... "Fatal server error" "xf86OpenConsole"02:19
somerville32drx0drx, Please see #ubuntu for support for Ubuntu. :)02:19
ShoeUnitedsorry DarthLappy  >.>02:20
somerville32It's ok :)02:23
ShoeUnited:)02:24
ShoeUnitedIt's bugging me though, I like XFCE's look and low processor use, but I miss Gnome's theme manager.  I don't suppose I could mix and match. :/  but there isn't even xfskin :(02:25
ShoeUnitedAnd I'm not knowledgeable enough to muck around and make things work. lol02:25
Jester45you can use ubuntu temes in xfce02:25
ShoeUnitedYeah, but I kinda want to use different sound packs, and other stuff from the net.02:26
Jester45o02:26
ShoeUnitedIcons cursors etc.02:26
Jester45you can change that also02:26
ShoeUnitedLink to a guide?02:26
ShoeUnitedcause for the ~/.themes directory I had to make my own.  And I found a /usr/share/sounds  but none of those play in the os and I don't know how to activate them. :s02:27
Jester45i dont know how or where to get a HowTo but you can do it also you can allways replace the default files with new ones02:27
ShoeUnitedLet alone change them or install new.02:27
ShoeUnitedhrmmm02:28
Jester45google might now :)02:29
Jester45know02:29
ShoeUnitedI might just tear apart the xubuntu artwork deb and see how its constructed.02:29
Jester45seems like a lot of work02:29
somerville32Not really02:30
Jester45you could just replace files after you find them02:30
drx0drxanyone know how to change the text mode display driver?  is there a way to load a driver from a CD?02:30
ShoeUnitedI was thinking it might be easier to read where the deb is sending the files and what instructions it was using to add it to the UI S than to hen peck and maybe miss some needed coding.02:31
Jester45use synaptic it tells you all the places files were installed02:32
ShoeUnitedah I see :D02:33
mark488hi, i'm trying to burn a cd iso to disc.  xfburn "finishes" without writing, and says "Usecdrecord dev=help02:33
mark488to get a list of possible SCSI transport specifiers." ?  My drive is atapi.   Sys's response to the cdrecord dev=help command includes:    cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.17-10-generic02:33
mark488cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.02:33
mark488cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.02:33
mark488does xubuntu come with cd burning s/w supported by 2.6?02:34
Jester45yes02:35
Jester45try growiso fs -typeofdisc -Z /dev/path /files/to/burn02:36
Jester45should be something close to that02:36
Jester45you might need to add somthing after the /dev/path to tel growisofs that the file is iso and to burn it as one02:36
mark488interesting... thanks02:37
mark488any idea why xfburn was pointing me toward scsi options?02:37
Jester45i dont know why02:38
Jester45i removed xfburn right away02:38
mark488funny.  i was about to ask why it was included if it's not compatible with this version of the kernel.02:39
Jester45i remove about 30 packages on first start02:41
Jester45good old bash script02:42
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mark488wow.  are many of the ~30 are non-functional?  if so, i wonder why they were included in dist.02:43
RememberPOLHow can I get the xfce menus ("Applications") to display in a different language?02:43
RememberPOLMy system language is russian and the other menus (gaim,firefox) and the xfce setting dialogs are in russian...but the dropdown menus are still in english02:44
Jester45idk02:45
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RememberPOL02:46
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RememberPOLAny ideas?02:54
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mortal5can anyone help me find the original sources.list for xubuntu?03:23
mortal5I messed mine up, and I'd like to pull it off the cd or website if it's availible03:24
tonyyarusso!sources03:24
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:24
tonyyarusso!easysource03:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:24
mortal5...I need vanila source list for Xubuntu03:25
mortal5not ubuntu03:26
somerville32mortal5, They are the same.03:26
tonyyarussoThey're the same03:26
mortal5well here's the deal, I copied over my source list from ubuntu03:27
mortal5and it said it couldn't add the cdrom source03:27
tonyyarussoapt-cdrom add03:27
mortal5ty ty03:28
mortal5i dof my hat to you sir03:28
somerville32:)03:28
somerville32Feel free to hang out and stay awhile! :)03:28
mortal5:)03:29
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tonyyarussoHow can I set a keyboard shortcut to switch workspaces?03:46
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tonyyarussoThe only shortcut thing I can find wants commands, and I don't know the command for that.03:47
tonyyarussoIn gnome there's a list of actions to choose from.03:48
somerville32Allncjaycrbo V O.yycbio V <rptolaj.03:48
tonyyarussolol03:48
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somerville32applications >03:50
tonyyarussoApplications > Settings >03:51
tonyyarussoWorkspaces03:51
tonyyarussoum...03:51
somerville32<cber,o Mabai.p03:52
somerville32Gbe.p yd. t.fxrape yax03:52
tonyyarussoWindow Manager03:53
somerville32zm. breov03:53
somerville32yes03:53
tonyyarussoUnder the keyboard tab03:54
somerville32yes03:55
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tonyyarusso'k03:55
somerville32S)03:55
tonyyarussoAh, beautious.03:55
tonyyarussoThat must have confused a few people03:56
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Prisoner_hello03:58
somerville32hi03:58
Prisoner_running Kubuntu right now, thinking of trying xubuntu03:59
Prisoner_running on an old 400mhz AMDk6 with 384 MB Ram03:59
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tonyyarussoGnome/XFCE/Enlightenment here - join the club of multi-desktoppers03:59
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somerville32Prisoner_, I have a 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram04:00
tonyyarussoI should see what KDE looks like these days04:00
crimsunI'm running kubuntu.org's 3.5.6 on 7.04. It seems fine.04:00
Prisoner_I have a Windows box I'm planning to dual boot with Linux, trying it out on this old clunker first04:00
somerville32:)04:00
marshcasthey there, yon x users... i have a q...04:01
marshcastI've been trying to make this machine so people can't play with the panel etc... and in order to do it have changed the permissions of the folder ~/.config/xfce4/panel...04:02
somerville32There is a kios mode04:03
Prisoner_it's pushing the RAM pretty hard and I ahve 384MB on this thing04:03
marshcastand now I only have default icons (Apps & firefox) and can't make any or modify my panel04:03
somerville32Prisoner_, Xfce4 or Kde?04:03
marshcastsomerville32, yeah - so i see (now :/)04:04
Prisoner_KDE04:04
marshcastmy prob is geting something on the panel now - if I log out then I lose any alterations04:04
marshcast--- I have changed the permissions back - but tno joy04:04
marshcast:(04:04
marshcastany sugestions? (greatly, greatly appreciated, mind..)04:05
Prisoner_I changed over from gnome just to try KDE04:05
somerville32Is "Save session" or w/e checked off when you sign out?04:05
somerville32Prisoner_, Xfce4 is a lot lighter memory wise04:05
Prisoner_this is the first time I've used it so I haven't signed off yet04:05
somerville32Er..04:06
somerville32marshcast, , Xfce4 is a lot lighter memory wise04:06
somerville32Oh wait04:06
somerville32: /04:06
somerville32marshcast, Is "Save session" or w/e checked off when you sign out?04:06
marshcastsomerville32, me? - i have save set to save the session..04:06
somerville32Then it should work :)04:06
somerville32But it doesn't?04:06
marshcastsomerville32,  but not sure what the w/e is...?04:07
somerville32Are you sure the permissions are set correctly?04:07
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Prisoner_The box I plan to run it on is 512MB RAM and an AMD Sempron 1.583GHZ CPU04:07
somerville32w/e means what ever04:07
somerville32Prisoner_, Xubuntu or Kubuntu?04:07
Prisoner_haven't decided yet04:07
somerville32:] 04:07
Prisoner_seeing how KDE is pushing the RAM on this thing, I may try Xubuntu04:07
Prisoner_Xubuntu can dual boot?04:08
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marshcastsomerville32, Aaahhhh... well... yeah - i thought of that - session is set to save - all perms are back to norm ( i think - i set folder to 644 - but have tried 744 -- don't suppose I could ask what yours are set to???)04:08
marshcastPrisoner_, yes] 04:08
Prisoner_good04:08
marshcastPrisoner_, perfectly ;)04:09
Prisoner_I ran the advisor for Windows Vista and it's telling me my system might not handle it04:09
Prisoner_I read a review of XFCE4 and it looks pretty cool, also trying the LiveCD04:09
Prisoner_if it works, I might be weaning myself off Windoze04:11
marshcastPrisoner_, could you do me a favour?04:11
Prisoner_ok04:11
marshcastcould you tell me the permissions of your .config/xfce4/panel dir?04:11
marshcastPrisoner_, do you know how to look at that?04:12
DarthLappymarshcast: drwx------ 2 angus angus 4096 2007-01-26 12:19 panel04:13
Prisoner_not sure how to do that04:13
somerville32Mine is 70004:13
marshcastPrisoner_, ls -l thanks DarthLappy  - and is everything in it 644? (rw-r--r--) if you 'ls -l' it04:14
DarthLappymarshcast: Yeap.04:14
marshcastok - thanks gents.04:14
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marshcastnew question - can I reset my desktop manager without logging out? is there somehting i can kill?04:15
Prisoner_I'm running KDE not XFCE04:15
somerville32marshcast, xfdesktop04:16
marshcastok Prisoner_ - it's fine - thanks - but fyi if you go to a term and type 'ls -l' it will give you the permissions of all the files in the folder your in on the left hand side of the listing...04:17
Prisoner_cool04:17
Prisoner_I have alot to learn04:17
somerville32Prisoner_, You can also use the file  browser to see that data04:18
somerville32Generally you just rich click the file and click properties04:18
somerville32*right04:18
DarthLappysomerville32: That involves the mouse >_<04:18
somerville32:] 04:18
DarthLappyThough the file manager looks really nice :P04:19
somerville32:)04:19
Prisoner_ok04:19
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marshcastHey hey! i think it kept it... ;D.04:19
somerville32:] 04:19
DarthLappy\o/04:20
marshcastgonna go check it out proper... thanks gents :)04:20
DarthLappy:( I only have 14MB free RAM04:21
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somerville32I have 53mb left04:22
Jester45of?04:23
somerville32Memory04:23
Jester45o04:23
DarthLappyOut of?04:23
Jester45you know04:23
Jester45azureus uses a lot of memory04:23
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somerville32256mb04:24
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Jester45somerville32: what are you wondering about and what are you running04:24
Jester45buysealand.com04:26
Jester45i donated to that04:27
Prisoner_32.74 mb free here, and I have 384mb04:27
Jester45748mb free i have 2g04:27
Prisoner_I'm going to try XFCE for sure now04:27
Jester45lol04:28
Jester45you show04:28
Jester45should04:28
Prisoner_it also is pushing this 400mhz processor hard04:28
tonyyarussoI really really wish adding KDE didn't clutter up your menus in Gnome and XFCE04:28
Jester45OC it04:28
Prisoner_ok04:29
Prisoner_have to open up the box for that, don't feel like doing it now, maybe later04:29
Prisoner_AMD CPUs are overclock friendly04:29
Jester45you better have good cooling04:30
Prisoner_I know04:30
Prisoner_that's why I've never done it04:30
Jester45lol my mobo has pins for somthing i changed them around and got 3.05mhz more :)04:31
Prisoner_AMD k6 CPUs don't run as hot as some04:31
Prisoner_jumper blocks need to be changed, might be worth a try04:31
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Jester45hehe04:32
Prisoner_having fun in Linux04:32
Prisoner_gonna check out now, have fun, will be back again04:32
Jester45squez a little more out04:33
bigfuzzyjesusJester45, i got 4.4.0 installed :)04:38
Jester45cool04:39
Jester45anything exciting?04:39
somerville32hehe04:41
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Jester45anything cool about it?04:46
Jester45new features?04:46
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somerville32A few things in Thunar04:47
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bigfuzzyjesussomerville32, transparent windows...04:49
somerville32bigfuzzyjesus, Thats in Edgy and Dapper already04:49
bigfuzzyjesussomerville32, well i didnt know that so la de da04:49
bigfuzzyjesuslol04:49
bigfuzzyjesussomerville32, but... the batch rename in thunar is nice04:50
bigfuzzyjesusdigital camera pictures...04:50
somerville32The bulk renamer is in Edgy and Dapper too04:50
bigfuzzyjesussomerville32, i didnt know that either04:51
bigfuzzyjesusim not very observant04:51
Jester45lol04:54
Jester45its in the menu04:55
Jester45NO!!!!!!!!!!!04:55
Jester45thepiratebay's DB is down04:56
bigfuzzyjesusJester45, that sucx0rz, i want them to by a micronation....04:56
Jester45i donated to them04:57
Jester45i wanna my dvds04:57
Jester45but i want my money back if they go offline :)04:57
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Jester45http://jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/sinkingship.jpg <----- poor old TPB05:00
somerville32<-- Offtopic05:05
Jester45im just waiting for someone to talk in there05:05
Jester45anyone know how to auto downgrade azureus05:17
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Jester45bigfuzzyjesus: new xfce problems??05:22
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Commander-Crowehi05:32
Jester45hi05:34
somerville32hi05:35
Commander-Crowehi05:38
Jester45hi05:38
Commander-Crowehi05:39
Jester45hi05:41
delaneyCan anyone let me know what version of XFCE is currently in the repositories for feisty?05:41
somerville32delaney,  4.4.005:41
delaneysomerville32, rc1 rc2 or stable?05:42
Commander-Croweyeah05:42
Commander-Crowewhatever is latest05:42
Jester45stable05:42
delaneystable.05:42
delaneyRAD05:42
delaneythanks!05:42
somerville32:)05:42
crimsunactually we just took 4.0.2 and retagged it as 4.4.005:42
crimsunnostalgia wins again.05:42
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delaneycrimsun, lol05:42
Jester45cheaters05:42
crimsunwin 2405:44
crimsunoops05:44
Commander-Crowenostalgia05:44
Commander-Crowe?05:44
jjwozniai hate to interrupt05:45
Jester45np05:45
jjwozniabut i was just looking for anyone who has used xubuntu on pentium 2 mahince?05:46
jjwozniamahince=machine05:46
Jester45yes?05:46
crimsunI'm using it on a Pentium if that matters.05:47
Jester45i got a pII05:47
jjwozniaand it runs fairly well?05:47
Jester45umm05:47
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Jester45its cli only so yea05:48
crimsunit runs sufficiently "well" for me not to toss it out the window in frustration.05:48
jjwozniai see, are you guys running it off the cd or as an hd install?05:48
somerville32hd install05:49
Jester45hd05:49
Jester45i think DSL is only good from cd05:49
Jester45becuase i load it to ram05:49
jjwozniai have used that before05:50
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jjwozniabut i would consider myself a linux newb05:50
jjwozniait was a little to raw for me05:50
Jester45somerville32: what about knoppix ? puppy?05:51
somerville32no05:51
jjwozniai've run knoppix before, back at v 4-ish05:52
Jester45o05:52
Jester45o05:52
Jester45O05:52
jjwozniaive never tried puppy05:52
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jjwozniaim actually rebounding from an almost happy attempt with freebsd:(05:53
jjwozniayeah that made me mad too05:53
jjwozniaon an old p1 sony vaio05:54
jjwozniadsl was quite amazing05:54
=== Commander-Crowe has ran puppy on a PI with 32 MB of ram and it ran fine
jjwozniagui or cli?05:54
Commander-CroweGUI05:55
Commander-Croweit had a 2 MB video card05:55
Jester45oo05:55
jjwozniasounds like my old vaio05:55
jjwozniawhats puppy based on?05:56
Commander-Crowehrm, itself05:56
Jester45lol05:56
Jester45knoppix right?05:56
Commander-Croweno05:57
Commander-Croweits of its own05:57
Jester45o05:57
jjwozniaas long as adding software doesnt involve compiling from source05:57
jjwozniathat was the death of bsd for me05:58
jjwozniait was like gentoo05:58
Commander-Crowehrm05:58
Commander-CroweYou wern't told about ports then05:58
jjwozniawell i foud the prebuilt binaries05:58
jjwozniafoud=found05:59
jjwozniaquite a few too many dependeencies problems05:59
jjwozniai guess linux just spoiled me :)05:59
Jester45apt is nice05:59
Commander-Croweyeah you should've tried Ports first05:59
Jester45or deb or what ever you may call it05:59
Commander-Croweyeah it is05:59
jjwozniaim not knockin bsd06:00
jjwozniaif i had a newer machine, with a little more kick06:00
jjwozniait would have been perfect06:00
Jester45like my new one is gonna be06:01
Jester45cant wait06:01
jjwozniawhat are you getting?06:01
Jester45spring is so far off06:01
Commander-CroweI have the newest BSD running on a 486 right now06:01
Jester45and i got its ram all ready :(06:01
Commander-Crowe66 MHz06:01
Jester45lol why06:02
Jester45it cant do much06:02
Jester45some cli text editing?06:02
Commander-Croweyes, yes it can06:02
Commander-Croweit is very powerful in CLI mode06:02
jjwozniayou'd be surprised how much <100 mhz machine can do06:02
Commander-Crowei'm a cli kinda guy06:02
Commander-CroweI have it in front of this machine running as a firewall/router06:03
Jester45jjwoznia: im getting a core duo with 4g ram 2 140 gm drives and gigabit ethernet06:03
Jester45gb*06:03
jjwoznia<whistle>06:03
Jester45Commander-Crowe: i got a d link for that06:03
Jester45Commander-Crowe: you may have more options with yours but mine has higher cpu :)06:04
Commander-Crowehaha06:04
Commander-Crowemine cost less06:05
Jester45jjwoznia: it comes with 1g ram and i have 3 more sitting on my desk..... driving me crazy06:05
jjwozniai bet06:06
jjwozniawhat kind of gpu hardware?06:06
Commander-CroweI have a Core 2 Duo here running Xubuntu06:06
Commander-Crowewith 1GB rsm06:06
Commander-Croweram06:06
somerville32Computer: serenity | Distro: Ubuntu 7.04 "feisty" | Processor: 334.85Mhz | Model: Celeron (Mendocino) | Memory: 250MB Free: 44MB [            ]  | Diskspace: 40.07GB Free: 6.95GB | Video: S3 Inc. Savage 4 @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 0.51GB Up: 43.57MB06:06
somerville32^^ thats my box06:06
Jester45jjwoznia: umm nothing special right now06:06
bur[n] er/home/burner/infobash.sh: 56: DEBUG: not found06:07
bur[n] er/home/burner/infobash.sh: 94: Syntax error: "(" unexpected06:07
bur[n] erdoh... guess I can't share things about my pc ;)06:07
Jester45hi bur[n] er06:07
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bur[n] erhola06:07
Jester45somerville32: how you get the net up/down thingy06:08
somerville32Jester45: ifconfig06:08
Jester45o copy/pasted ?06:08
somerville32No06:08
somerville32Output is generated by a script06:09
Jester45o06:09
jjwozniacool06:09
somerville32yup06:10
jjwozniawell im off to sleepy land06:10
Commander-Crowesomerville32, what script?06:10
jjwozniaive never irc before06:11
jjwozniasuper helpful, thanks guys06:11
bur[n] erirc rewlz 4 sh00r06:11
jjwozniaafter today, i concur06:12
Jester45 RX bytes:26950919782 (25.1 GiB)  TX bytes:39621073305 (36.9 GiB)06:13
Jester45thats all i get06:13
Jester45well amount wise06:13
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Commander-CroweRX bytes: (8.3 MiB)  TX bytes: (2.3 MiB)06:16
Commander-Crowedial up06:16
somerville32hehe06:16
Jester45lol sorry06:17
Jester45well all that isnt internet i think06:17
Commander-CroweI have a printer being shared from a linux machine to a windows network via smb enabled06:17
Jester45beucase it eth0 so its my LAN also06:18
Commander-Crowehow do i tell what the path to this printer is so i can add it to the windows network?06:18
Jester45ip:port06:18
Jester45maybe ip:port/some/directory06:18
Commander-Croweport?06:19
Commander-Crowewhat port would it be on?06:19
Jester45look at samba06:19
Jester45im just guessing06:19
Jester45i think thats how printers are managed06:19
Jester45like a server06:20
Jester45but the files are sent to printer not hd06:20
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greenbeanhello, how do I modify the title of a thread i've created on Ubuntu Forums?  Thanks!07:58
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somerville32greenbean, Try asking in #ubuntuforum08:03
greenbeanhey somerville32! good to see you...i'm asking in there right now08:03
somerville32:)08:03
hyper_chgood morning08:15
somerville32Morning! :)08:15
hyper_chi hate the snow outside :(08:16
somerville32hehe08:16
hyper_chand I need to go on a journey to the uni :(08:16
somerville32hehe08:17
somerville32<g>08:17
hyper_chit's not fun :)08:17
somerville32I can't imagine08:17
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hyper_chsomerville32: you are in quite a few channels :)08:19
somerville32lol, I am08:19
hyper_chI'm off :)08:28
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Grey_Lokiis it possible to install Compiz to Xubuntu?12:39
Grey_LokiI've seen guides that show you how to install it from Gnome and KDE, but Xubuntu uses XFCE, right?12:39
Grey_Loki!compiz12:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:39
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Grey_LokiHmm12:45
Grey_LokiSo if i'm reading this right, to install Compiz, I would first need to install and configure Xgl and Gnome12:45
Grey_LokiBefore finally getting around to installing Compiz?12:45
tonyyarussoXgl or aiglx, one of the two.  Shouldn't need Gnome I imagine.12:46
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Grey_LokiAiglx seems to be preferable, actually - seems that Xgl runs slowly on Intel chipsets12:47
Grey_LokiWell, it looks like Compiz takes either elements of gnome or elements of KDE to make stuff 'go'.12:47
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Grey_LokiThis laptop isn't particularly well-spec'ed, anyways. Think I might wait and try it out on my desktop instead.12:48
Grey_LokiThanks anyways ;)12:49
Jester45|Away!seen cellofellow01:22
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PowhaHow does this chown work? It does not work for me. "sudo chown -hR test /win" still root01:39
PuMpErNiCkLeThat would change the ownership of everything in /win to the "test" user, and it wouldn't affect the targets of any symlinks in /win, only the symlinks themselves.01:42
PowhaWhat is an symlink?01:42
PuMpErNiCkLeIt's a link to a file.01:43
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PowhaYhea ok well /win is an dir with the windows partition mounted.01:43
PuMpErNiCkLeIf it's an NTFS partition, you won't be able to write to it anyway.01:48
Powhahmm well I have formated it to vfat.01:48
PowhaIf I enter the disk and type "sudo chown -hR test ." I get Operation not permitted01:51
PuMpErNiCkLeFAT doesn't use file permissions.  You may be hitting a limitation of the fs, there.01:55
PowhaOk which format shall I format the disk in?01:56
graziePowha: what is the purpose of the partition?01:57
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Powhawell was thinking of puting som install files on it so I can edit grub menu.lst, boot and reinstall xubuntu01:58
graziePowha: you don't need to share the data with Windows then?01:59
Powhanope windows is gone01:59
graziePowha: ext3 is probably most widely used02:00
Powhanote it's not a disk it is an partition. I wrote wrong above.02:00
Powhaok will try with ext302:01
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Powhastill get operation not permitted.02:07
b_52GMany one know , affordable isp satellite provider ? that cover north africa / europe / middle east ?02:09
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Jowihello. does anyone use thunar with beryl? I have an issue with it. clicking on a textfile or picture in thunar opens the file, but the thunar window is on top until the new window is clicked (it does not raise the new window). other WMs does not have this problem.03:36
Jowiother filemanagers (such as rox-filer) does not have this problem.03:38
Jowiah, wait. found a solution to this03:39
Jowiif anyone is interested: setting the Level of Focus stealing prevention to "None" in the general beryl options worked.03:40
Jowihave a nice day :)03:40
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g333k_workHi, how can I disable the Ctrl + Alt + F2, Ctrl + Alt + F3...... Ctrl + Alt + F12 ?04:06
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DarthLappyI don't think you can. (Or should)04:12
ZellSFanyone knows how to not automatically create shortcuts to an usb disk on desktop?04:12
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rizzoMorning all04:32
rizzoany reason why latest xubuntu shouldn't be able to install on a p3-700 laptop with 96mb RAM?04:33
rizzo(Dell Latitude, fwiw)04:33
rizzomy install keeps hanging on a blank silvery screen that only shows my mouse cursor04:33
BreetaiHey all, Question: If I want something to run whenever a connection is made to a particular port, do I need to apt-get inetd or is there a more "xubnutu" way of doing this?04:33
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ZellSFhow do I disable automatic mounting in thunar?04:51
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TheSheepZellSF: Thunar doesn't do automatic mounting05:02
TheSheepZellSF: it mounts only when you click on the device's icon05:02
ZellSFTheSheep: then what is automatically mounting stuff for me?05:03
ZellSF(talking about usb disk btw)05:03
TheSheepZellSF: no idea, try 'ps x' in a terminal and see05:03
TheSheepZellSF: if you have gnome-device-manager running, then that's the culprit05:03
ZellSFgnome-device-manager isn't even installed, so I doubt I've got it running05:04
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TheSheepZellSF: Thunar has the automonter in in 0.0.8, which just got into Feisty, and the automounter is not even in Feisty yet05:05
ZellSFwell, it's automatically mounting stuff here O_o05:05
ZellSFanyone know how to disable hal/dbus then?05:06
TheSheepZellSF: you can kill the dbus daemon05:07
ZellSFyeah, but I want to disable them05:07
ZellSFnot kill them at each reboot05:07
TheSheepZellSF: but it will make your applications stop communicating between ech other05:08
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ZellSFhmm05:08
ZellSFwhat kinds of communication?05:08
TheSheepZellSF: for example, Thunar will run a new, separate process for each new window05:08
ZellSFhmm, damn05:08
ZellSFanyone else has a clue how to get Thunar to stop automounting stuff?05:09
TheSheepZellSF: it doesn't mount my mp3 player :/05:10
TheSheepZellSF: at least until I double-click the icon05:10
ZellSFit mounts my usb disk05:10
TheSheephmm...05:10
TheSheepZellSF: have you looked at 'ps x'? no suspicious daemons? :)05:11
ZellSFNone05:11
TheSheepthen I'd bet on udev rules05:11
TheSheepZellSF: do you have that disk in yuor fstab?05:12
ZellSFYes, but it's not being mounted with the fstab options, which is my problem05:12
ZellSFand I've no clue what udev rules are, nor how to modify them05:13
TheSheepZellSF: maybe add 'noauto' and see if it's still mounted?05:13
ZellSFit's set to noauto05:13
ZellSF/dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk vfat user,noauto,rw 0 005:13
TheSheepI'm almost sure that Thunar would use pmount for mounting, and pmount would use the options from fstab05:14
ZellSFannoyingly enough, the desktop shortcut doesn't disappear even when I unmount the drive05:14
ZellSFmaybe it's not Thunar then, but something is automounting my drives and I didn't set anything to :/05:15
ZellSFI want to change the name of the desktop shortcut to something else and allow users to umount the device, Neither which I'm allowed to do05:16
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ZellSFno one has a clue how I can mount my removable drive with fstab and not have them automatically mounted by something else?05:27
ZellSFwhich I've no clue what is, but never installed?05:27
TheSheepI'm afraid my crystal ball is out of order05:29
ZellSFIt's default Xubuntu behavior05:29
ZellSFso you only need to know Xubuntu, not have a crystal ball :P05:29
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somerville32ZellSF, Xubuntu already mounts removable drivers automatically.05:30
ZellSFsomerville32: I want it not to05:30
somerville32ZellSF, Oh... right05:30
somerville32Sorry, misread :)05:30
ZellSFso, do you have any clue about it?05:30
somerville32Yes, just one second please05:31
ZellSFand also, will disabling it delete the desktop icon it automatically creates?05:31
somerville32Possibly05:33
somerville32And you disable it in the volman05:33
ZellSFI have no volman :/05:33
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ZellSFthe XFCE volume manager doesn't even work with Xubuntu Edgy's Thunar version05:34
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noir_question, when apt-get updating i get stuck on 99% [Connecting to edevelop.org (67.138.240.42)]  any ideas?05:59
fijamedevelop.org is down06:03
fijamremove this line from your sources.list or wait till Enlightment guyz fix this up06:03
noir_alright thanks for the info06:04
fijamno problem06:05
tonyyarusso(They're moving)06:05
noir_ah i see06:06
noir_i was woundering its been like that for the last day or so06:06
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eric__lo06:09
eric__does anyone know if it's possible to get a creative zen vision:m working under Xubuntu06:10
eric__ive looked at tutorials under the ubuntu forums but none seem to work06:10
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fijamI have no idea, sorry06:11
eric__ok np06:11
eric__it seems to be a tricky one alright06:12
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slow-motionhallo06:26
somerville32Hi slow-motion :)06:28
slow-motionhi somerville3206:29
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pjgat09hmm, is there any way to boot into xubuntu if you uninstalled grub?06:49
somerville32!grub | pjgat0906:50
ubotupjgat09: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:50
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pjgat09"Using the Alternate/Install CD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"  perfect, thanks06:53
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somerville32:)06:54
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pjgat09hmm, it says the swap partition is going to be formatted07:10
pjgat09the guide said to not format any partitions07:10
TheSheeppjgat09: swap doesn't contain any important data when the system is not running07:13
pjgat09thats what i figured07:14
TheSheeppjgat09: it's just for keeping things that don't fit in your ram07:14
pjgat09meh what ever07:14
pjgat09i didnt really care about this install, so if it goes away it doesnt matter07:14
pjgat09i just dont feel like reinstalling it  :)07:14
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graziepjgat09: you overwriting your last install?07:18
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pjgat09i am now, yes07:19
graziepjgat09: hope it works better for you07:19
pjgat09yeh, i hope so07:19
pjgat09i got a more generic NIC that gentoo and knoppix understood07:19
pjgat09but gentoo could not seem to keep the connection07:19
graziegentoo live cd?07:20
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pjgat09minimal install cd07:20
grazieyou've been busy!07:20
pjgat09yes, i have07:20
pjgat09but the paritioner doesnt seem to be doing anything...07:21
pjgat09its stuck at 25% "Creating ext3 file system for / in partition #1 of IDE3 slave (hdf)..."07:22
pjgat09and both hard drives just went into powersave mode...07:23
graziewhen I've had that kind of problem, I've prepared the disks before doing the install07:25
pjgat09i did a soft reboot (hope i didnt mess anything up..)07:25
pjgat09there is a point of good news, the installer finds the NIC, connects, and i can successfully ping the computer07:26
graziegood news07:27
grazieif it appears to get stuck again, open up a terminal and look at the processess running07:28
pjgat09what is LVM in relation to the partitioner07:28
pjgat09and should i use it?07:28
grazieI wouldn't07:29
grazie!LVM07:29
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO07:29
pjgat09hard drive churning, a good sign07:30
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pjgat09and now its stoped at 22%  :(07:36
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pjgat09ok, im stumped07:40
grazieopen up another terminal and ask TheSheep for some expert advice (if he's around)07:40
pjgat09can i do that with the text installer? (alternate install CD)07:40
graziei think so07:41
pjgat09i tried ctrl+alt+F1, nothing07:41
TheSheeppjgat09: you are at f107:41
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TheSheeppjgat09: try alt+f207:41
pjgat09tried that too actually07:41
TheSheepalt+f2 alone, no ctrl07:42
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grazieTheSheep: this problem seems quite common...07:45
pjgat09ok, im at F207:46
TheSheeppjgat09: type 'ps x'07:48
pjgat09ok07:48
TheSheeppjgat09: and find something related to generating a dictionary07:48
pjgat09i think the list went off the screen at the top, can i scroll?07:49
TheSheepshift+pgup07:49
pjgat09i dont see anything about generating a dictionary07:50
TheSheeppjgat09: any command with 'sh' in front?07:50
pjgat09theres 4 that i see in /bin/sh07:51
pjgat09and one that is just -sh07:51
TheSheepI don't remember the exact name of the process that generated that dictionary :/07:52
pjgat09"/bin/sh /sbin/debian-installer" "-sh" "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/partman-base.postinst.conf" "/bin/sh /bin/partman" "/bin/sh /lib/partman/commit.d/50format_ext3"07:54
pjgat09those are the 5 i see with sh07:54
TheSheeppjgat09: ah, then it's not that bug07:55
pjgat09in F4 i see a long list of the same error: "hdf: lost interrupt"07:55
TheSheeppjgat09: it's just formatting your partition07:55
TheSheep:/07:55
TheSheeplooks like a hardware problem07:55
pjgat09it worked just fine about 2 days ago...07:55
grazielooks like a dodgy hd...on way out maybe...how old?07:56
pjgat09very07:57
pjgat09its 4gb, remember07:57
pjgat09i might have hit a loose connector when i installed the NIC07:57
pjgat09that happened with the main IDE BUS, the connector came out enough to not boot the HDDs07:58
pjgat09(quick fix of course)07:58
graziefrom your others problem, I'd say the disk is dying, but I can't be sure07:58
pjgat09i think ill open the case later and double check all the connectors07:59
pjgat09but there is no point in trying now, i have to leave in ~30 min07:59
grazieyou were probably ok with gentoo as it's small. with xubuntu you could be hitting a bad sector or a themal problem08:01
pjgat09knoppix has actually been most successful08:02
pjgat09it connects, i can ping it, but i can't pull up any websites08:02
grazieyou installed to the hd?08:02
pjgat09no, live cd08:02
grazieah yes08:02
pjgat09can it be installed to the HDD?08:03
grazieyes08:03
pjgat09thats what i figured08:03
pjgat09if i could get it to connect to the internet, i would do that08:03
graziedon't understand?08:04
pjgat09if i could get knoppix to be able to pull up websites, i would install it to the HDD and use that as my linux distro08:04
grazieknoppix could pull up websites, but networking was good? Still don't understand?08:05
grazies/could/couldn't/08:06
pjgat09ohh sorry08:06
pjgat09knoppix connects to my local network fine (i can ping it from my laptop), but i can't get it to connect to the internet08:06
graziev.strange. however, knoppix may be a little slow (with kde) on that machine08:07
pjgat09actually it was very fast, even running off the livecd08:07
pjgat09booted faster than ubuntu, xubuntu, or gentoo08:08
graziethere can't be much up.08:09
pjgat09ill try messing with it again later, maybe i can figure out why it doesnt connect to the internet08:10
pjgat09maybe its something in my router's settings08:10
pjgat09also, does knoppix come with a firewall that would block that?08:10
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grazieit has a firewall, but it would be blocking by default08:11
pjgat09could that firewall be blocking internet connections?08:12
grazienot with the default settings no08:13
pjgat09hmm, ok08:13
graziewhat device makes the internet connection?08:14
pjgat09in my network? my 2wire modem08:14
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graziedon't know it. usb or ethernet? where does the router fit in?08:15
pjgat09phone line - 2wire modem - linksys router - kingston NIC - computer08:16
grazieethernet modem then? Shouldn't be a driver problem08:17
pjgat09yes, its ethernet all the way08:17
pjgat09interesting. the computer doesnt respond to ping now08:17
pjgat09well i need to get going08:21
pjgat09thanks for the help thus far...maybe ill get something running eventually  :)08:21
grazieI bet you've learnt loads though. np08:22
rizzois it possible to swith to a term screen so I can see what is happening while the installer is loading08:24
rizzomy installer freezes about 5 minutes after I say to Start or Install xubuntu08:24
rizzojust on a blank screen with a mouse cursor08:24
rizzoI've trield ctrl-alt-<random F key> but nothing08:25
grazierizzo: which disk are you using?08:25
rizzoxunbuntu 6.1008:25
graziealternate or desktop?08:25
rizzodesktop-i38608:25
rizzotrying to install on a Dell Latitude p3-750mhz with 96mb RAM08:26
rizzofwiw08:26
rizzoit /was/ running win2k08:26
grazieand ctl-alt-F2 doesn't give you a terminal?08:26
rizzonewp08:26
grazieyou should be using the alternate with only 96M of RAM08:27
rizzoah ok08:27
rizzoI'd ask why but it's probably FAQ08:27
rizzoah I see08:28
rizzo< 128mb08:28
grazie;)08:28
rizzothanks08:28
rizzoour MIS guy handed me this CD, so I hadn't actually been to the xubuntu site before too recently08:28
graziebeen there....08:29
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rizzowhat does it do to handle less RAM?08:29
grazieuses a text installer rather than gui08:30
rizzook08:32
rizzobut XFCE should run fine after?08:32
grazienever tried myself, but lots of people use 128M08:33
rizzoI only have what MIS could scavenge from other scrap laptops08:34
rizzo:p08:34
rizzobuilding a free laptop for my sister-in-law08:34
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grazieI've used DSL with 48M and been satisfied08:36
churchyardhi, I'm trying to set virtual desktop emulation in winecfg, but the option is grayed (wine 0.9.29), it means this would never work?08:36
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rizzograzie: DSL?08:45
grazieDamn Small Linux08:46
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vai_rohow do i change permissions on a hard drive?08:46
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vai_roquestion, my sdb1 hard drive witch is in exit 3 dosent have read and write support enabled how do i go about enabling read and write support?08:59
Spastic_TeapotDumb-tastic question: I think I just disabled my GUI using BUM. I'm stuck at the command line.08:59
Spastic_TeapotHow do I un-fvck my install?08:59
vai_ronvm09:02
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g333k_workHi, when I right click on a desktop icon then click "desktop" then I have avaiable "desktop properties" and "desktop settings", how can I remove this entries?09:13
g333k_workwhere is specified the default settings for my new users? I mean the default  desktop appearance ?09:21
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bigredradioAnyone have a minute to help with getting rsh-server working? I am new to inetd. More used to xinetd. How can I tell if the service is working?09:36
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ZellSFcan I find the Firefox icon somewhere on Xubuntu?10:13
fijamin 6.06 or 6.10?10:14
ZellSFuh... not sure, edgy10:14
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vai_ro /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png10:14
SpasticteapotHello, persons!10:15
ZellSFthanks10:15
fijamyeah, it should be in...10:15
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fijamexactly there10:15
vai_ronp10:15
SpasticteapotCan anyone provide me a link to a good tutorial for optimizing Xubuntu to run a bit faster?10:15
SpasticteapotI found one a while back, and promptly lost the URL.10:15
Spasticteapot(This is the guy who just disabled GDM by accident when trying to get rid of "uneeded" processes.)10:15
vai_ronice lol10:16
SpasticteapotI am t3h n00bi3!10:16
Spasticteapotph334 my stup1d1ty!10:16
vai_royou wont get any arguments here10:17
SpasticteapotI can crash ANY SERVER - it's not that I'm a hacker or anything, I'm just that powerfully incompetent.10:17
Spasticteapot:)10:17
vai_rothen why do you want to try and speed up xubuntu, witch prolly has a good chance of messing up your system10:18
SpasticteapotI know there's some tricks for reducing "swappiness" and ditching un-needed processes.10:18
SpasticteapotI just don't know what they are.10:18
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vai_rowell personally i did a server install off the alternate cd, then installed xfce 4.4 and remoced any un-needed programs and my boot time from login to desktop is under 4 secs10:20
SpasticteapotThat's about what I get, actually.10:20
vai_roremoved*10:20
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SpasticteapotAs a side note, can you help me get Amarok to play Mp3s?10:20
vai_rosearch automatix in google then install10:21
SpasticteapotHmm...I'll give it a shot.10:21
vai_rok10:21
frankabel I want put my servers to update automatically as described at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Au...ecurityUpdates10:22
frankabelBut as that wiki say "There is always some security risks involved in running software upgrades without supervision"... to mitigate that effect I need know how can I see what packages had ben updated, when and if is possible a method to rollback the updates.10:22
frankabelany help?10:23
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adamwesthow can i make the panels' opaque whatever the theme is?10:30
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adamwestguys, how can i make the panels opaque whatever the theme is?10:33
TheSheepadamwest: right-click, select 'customize panel', use the slider to adjust the transparency10:34
adamwestTheSheep: i did that... but in some themes not all of the panel is opaque..10:35
TheSheepadamwest: edit the theme10:35
adamwestand change what?10:35
TheSheepadamwest: the panel styling, depends on the theme10:36
adamwestoh thanks10:37
TheSheepadamwest: look for something like class "*Panel*"        style "panelbg"10:38
TheSheepadamwest: and then modify the panelbg style10:38
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adamwestthanks, TheSheep :P10:38
vai_rohow do i get the transparency option?10:40
fijamyou have to enable compositor10:40
vai_rohow do i enable compositor10:40
fijamsettings -> window manager options -> compositor10:41
vai_rothanks10:42
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ZellSFwhat do I write if I want to make space part of an argument to a program?10:52
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TheSheepZellSF: either '\ ' or enclose it in double or single quotes11:04
ZellSFhmm. thought so. crap11:05
ZellSFAnyone knows a good virus scanning extension for Firefox then? :P11:05
TheSheepZellSF: so it's:  file\ name\ with\ spaces or "file name with spaces" or 'file name with spaces'11:05
TheSheepZellSF: what would it do?11:05
ZellSF(I want to use the notify-daemon to display finished downloads)11:05
ZellSFnothing, but a virus scanning extension would allow me to run a custom command on finished downloads11:06
TheSheephow so?11:06
ZellSFthey usually let you write where your virus scanner is11:06
TheSheepthere are rather no virii for Linux in the wild11:06
ZellSFand which arguments to use with it11:06
ZellSFNo, but I'm not talking about using the virus scanner for virus scanning11:06
ZellSFbut launching a custom command11:06
TheSheepZellSF: ah, you can just associate any program with an extension or mime type11:06
TheSheepZellSF: in firefox11:06
rizzodamn it.  xubuntu alternative install completed, but now it seems to hang on boot11:07
ZellSFyeah, but doing that for all filetypes + trying to figure out how to do argument = probably not the best way.11:07
TheSheepZellSF: preferences, content, file types, manage...11:07
TheSheepZellSF: you can just put * in there11:07
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ZellSFincorrect, Firefox doesn't allow you to add download actions11:07
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ZellSFdon't ask me why11:08
slow-motionn811:08
TheSheepZellSF: you can always change that in about:config11:09
bigfuzzyjesuslawl "dell fan"11:09
ZellSFwhere11:09
ZellSFO_o11:09
TheSheepbrowser.contentHandlers, I think11:12
TheSheepZellSF: just type about:config in the location bar11:12
ZellSFnot brwoser.contenthandlers ...11:12
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TheSheepZellSF: what version of firefox?11:13
ZellSF211:13
TheSheepZellSF: I have them... :/11:13
ZellSFyes, but they don't appear to be the same thing as what I need to change11:14
ZellSFBloglines, My Yahoo, Google Reader11:14
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grazierizzo, did you verify the md5 of the iso?11:26
rizzograzie: n/m it's up now11:26
rizzosecond boot worked11:27
graziegoof11:27
grazie*good11:27
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electronrohello12:07
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electronroi hawe problems booting in live mode...i get a blak screen and hapens nothing  black with a cursor12:08
electronrobut can just reboot12:09
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mattswelli am having a problem installing xubuntu, my monitor doesn't support the video mode. i've tried manually setting the VGA settings (using the menu) and i have tried hitting escape and running in text only mode12:09
mattswellit runs fine until the screen with the mouse disappears12:10
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HeathenDanwhat monitor are you using?12:13
mattswelldell 24" widescreen12:13
mattswella flat panel12:13
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electronrobye12:16
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ZellSFanyone here have any recommendations on bittorrent clients?12:16
mattswellazureus12:16
ZellSFAzureus hates me12:17
mattswell:(12:17
ZellSFhmm12:17
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ZellSFwhy the hell is my Java virtual machine hotspot?12:17
ZellSFO_o12:17
ZellSFin any case, I don't know how to install Sun's java and Azureus crashed at start with hotspot12:18
mattswellah well12:18
mattswelli can't even install xubuntu, the installer doesn't like my monitor12:18
mattswelltext mode or otherwise12:18
mattswellis there a nofb mode for advanced options?12:19
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PuMpErNiCkLe!info sun-java5-jre | ZellSF12:22
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB12:22
ZellSFhmm12:22
ZellSFappears I have that.12:22

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