[02:48] <DeannaTheGeek> hiyas!
[02:49] <DeannaTheGeek> anyone awake?
[02:49] <Burgwork> not really
[02:50] <DeannaTheGeek> :-)
[02:50] <DeannaTheGeek> I'm a complete Linux n00b
[02:50] <Burgwork> welcome
[02:50] <DeannaTheGeek> I was hoping to pick some brains
[02:50] <Burgwork> this is a friday night and it is early UTC, thus few people on
[02:51] <DeannaTheGeek> I got this laptop from my sister for Xmas, and I installed edubuntu instead of running Windows ME
[02:51] <Burgwork> right
[02:51] <Burgwork> did you install the full version or just the workstation?
[02:51] <DeannaTheGeek> workstation, I believe
[02:51] <Burgwork> right
[02:51] <DeannaTheGeek> everything works great
[02:51] <Burgwork> perfect
[02:52] <Burgwork> you don't need us then :)
[02:52] <DeannaTheGeek> I even learned some cool stuff from a book called Ubuntu Hacks
[02:52] <DeannaTheGeek> I just can't get my sound to work :-(
[02:52] <Burgwork> ah
[02:52] <Burgwork> at all?
[02:52] <DeannaTheGeek> not at all
[02:52] <crimsun> thin client/LTSP configuration or standalone?
[02:52] <DeannaTheGeek> Device Manager has the soundcard listed
[02:52] <DeannaTheGeek> standalone, I believe
[02:53] <DeannaTheGeek> this is my first time ever playing with Ubuntu
[02:53] <DeannaTheGeek> only Linux experience was Red Hat 9 a couple years ago
[02:53] <crimsun> please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to provide the information requested at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11
[02:53] <DeannaTheGeek> ?
[02:54] <crimsun> apologies, I presumed you were asking for assistance.
[02:54] <DeannaTheGeek> well, assistance and conversation
[02:55] <DeannaTheGeek> maybe a mentor :-)
[02:55] <DeannaTheGeek> teach me to be an ubuntu Jedi, so to speak
[02:55] <DeannaTheGeek> I don't want to raise my daughter on Windows
[02:57] <Burgwork> I am about to leave work, so just clearing up some stuff
[02:59] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: I'm awaiting the requested information above if you're seeking assistance.
[03:00] <DeannaTheGeek> working on it
[03:00] <DeannaTheGeek> my hubby keeps IMing me jokes :-P
[03:01] <DeannaTheGeek> what do I put for syntax?
[03:01] <crimsun> Text is acceptable.
[03:02] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[03:04] <crimsun> Please tell us the URL when you've finished that.
[03:06] <DeannaTheGeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3042/
[03:06] <DeannaTheGeek> would this be it?
[03:07] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: not precisely, no.
[03:07] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: the latter URL I gave you above contains a numbered list of commands you should type in a Terminal. That's the output to which I'm referring.
[03:08] <crimsun> (although I can surmise what you probably need to do)
[03:11] <DeannaTheGeek> the latter URL leads me to Bug 42718
[03:11] <crimsun> it should take you to a specific comment.
[03:12] <DeannaTheGeek> sound capture on Thinkpad
[03:12] <DeannaTheGeek> that one?
[03:12] <crimsun> yes, I need the output from those numbered points.
[03:12] <DeannaTheGeek> please forgive me if I seem obtuse, it's been a long week
[03:13] <crimsun> Heh, you're telling me. I'm still at work.
[03:16] <DeannaTheGeek> ick
[03:16] <DeannaTheGeek> I left work as soon as I possibly could
[03:18] <DeannaTheGeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3044/
[03:18] <DeannaTheGeek> I ran all those commands
[03:19] <DeannaTheGeek> I think I got it all in there, but it's hard to tell when you have a 5-year-old hanging on your mouse arm
[03:19] <crimsun> line 17 shows there's a bit omitted.
[03:19] <DeannaTheGeek> ?
[03:20] <DeannaTheGeek> probably got some cut off
[03:20] <crimsun> there are additional lines in the output of ``amixer'' (at the top) that are missing.
[03:20] <DeannaTheGeek> crap
[03:21] <DeannaTheGeek> I need a few minutes-I need to throw in another load of laundry
[03:21] <DeannaTheGeek> when you're wife, mommy, breadwinner, & geek of the house, there's never any rest
[03:21] <DeannaTheGeek> :-P
[03:43] <DeannaTheGeek> sorry I'm a little slow tonight
[03:46] <DeannaTheGeek> it thinks I'm trying to spam & won't let me edit my entry
[03:47] <crimsun> then just paste the first twenty lines of amixer from this command: amixer |head -20
[03:48] <DeannaTheGeek> ok, I'll try
[03:48] <DeannaTheGeek> also trying to order pizza so kids don't try to eat me
[03:54] <DeannaTheGeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3047/
[03:55] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: please try:  amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[03:55] <DeannaTheGeek> do I type that into the terminal?
[03:56] <crimsun> copy and paste verbatim.
[03:56] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[03:56] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: after that:  aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[03:57] <crimsun> does that latter command produce audible sound?
[03:58] <DeannaTheGeek> nope
[03:58] <DeannaTheGeek> Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0
[03:58] <DeannaTheGeek>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
[03:58] <DeannaTheGeek>   Playback channels: Mono
[03:58] <DeannaTheGeek>   Mono: Playback [off] 
[03:59] <DeannaTheGeek> I feel stoopid
[03:59] <DeannaTheGeek> I can't figure out a stinkin' sound card problem
[04:02] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: ok, sec, I need to check some additional things.
[04:03] <DeannaTheGeek> thanks
[04:03] <DeannaTheGeek> I really appreciate it
[04:06] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: ok, I'll need all of amixer in a separate paste, please.
[04:09] <DeannaTheGeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3048/
[04:10] <DeannaTheGeek> are these commands specific to Ubuntu, or are they universal Linux commands?
[04:10] <crimsun> ok, is it a desktop or a laptop?
[04:11] <DeannaTheGeek> laptop
[04:11] <crimsun> they're fairly universal.
[04:11] <DeannaTheGeek> Compaq Presario 1200US
[04:11] <crimsun> ok, please try: amixer set 'Master Mono' 80%,unmute
[04:12] <DeannaTheGeek> Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
[04:12] <DeannaTheGeek>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
[04:12] <DeannaTheGeek>   Playback channels: Mono
[04:12] <DeannaTheGeek>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[04:12] <DeannaTheGeek>   Mono: Playback 25 [81%]  [off] 
[04:12] <crimsun> amixer set 'Master Mono' unmute
[04:13] <DeannaTheGeek> Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
[04:13] <DeannaTheGeek>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
[04:13] <DeannaTheGeek>   Playback channels: Mono
[04:13] <DeannaTheGeek>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[04:13] <DeannaTheGeek>   Mono: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 
[04:13] <crimsun> ok, now try the aplay command again
[04:13] <crimsun> I presume this is a fresh install of Dapper 6.06?
[04:14] <DeannaTheGeek> nothing
[04:15] <DeannaTheGeek> I installed it about a week ago, but yeah, it was to a cleanly formatted disk
[04:16] <crimsun> ok, amixer set 'Capture' nocap && amixer set 'Aux' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Aux' unmute && amixer set 'PC Speaker' 80% && amixer set 'PC Speaker' unmute && amixer set 'Video' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Video' unmute && amixer set 'Line' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Line' unmute
[04:16] <crimsun> (yep, copy and paste that whole thing)
[04:16] <DeannaTheGeek> including ok?
[04:16] <DeannaTheGeek> ;-)
[04:18] <DeannaTheGeek> tried the aplay command again, nothing
[04:19] <crimsun> ok, did you also paste ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' ?
[04:19] <crimsun> (the output from it, rather)
[04:20] <DeannaTheGeek> don't think so-it thought it was spam
[04:24] <DeannaTheGeek> trying to send you a file with all the info from that link
[04:24] <crimsun> via dcc? I can't accept those.
[04:24] <DeannaTheGeek> crud
[04:25] <DeannaTheGeek> 1 sec
[04:25] <DeannaTheGeek> Mixers:
[04:25] <DeannaTheGeek> 0: Analog Devices AD1881A
[04:27] <crimsun> ok, it's probable that bugfix is not present in 6.06
[04:27] <DeannaTheGeek> ?
[04:27] <crimsun> the 1881As have a driver bug
[04:28] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[04:28] <crimsun> we can test a newer version of ALSA if you're willing, have the time, and have broadband.
[04:28] <DeannaTheGeek> so I have a completely different problem
[04:28] <DeannaTheGeek> can I ask a stupid question first?
[04:29] <crimsun> you may ask a question, certainly.
[04:29] <DeannaTheGeek> can a faulty memory module blow out an onboard sound device in a laptop?
[04:29] <crimsun> not normally.
[04:29] <DeannaTheGeek> I tried upgrading my memory, and when I did, my screen went garbly
[04:29] <crimsun> granted bad RAM can cause all sorts of nondeterministic errors
[04:29] <DeannaTheGeek> after that, my sound no workie
[04:30] <crimsun> did you add a module or replace one?
[04:30] <DeannaTheGeek> that's when I switched from Windows to edubuntu
[04:30] <DeannaTheGeek> replaced one
[04:30] <crimsun> do you still have the old one?
[04:30] <DeannaTheGeek> took out the 64 MB, added a 256 MB
[04:30] <DeannaTheGeek> I sent the new one back
[04:30] <DeannaTheGeek> had to put the old one back in to get the laptop to function
[04:31] <crimsun> well, we can't rule out the possibility of hardware error, but it's fairly unlikely given you're running the original now.
[04:31] <DeannaTheGeek> and that the OS detects the sound card as a functioning device
[04:31] <DeannaTheGeek> everything in a laptop is interconnected, it could have done something strange
[04:32] <crimsun> I'm fairly certain it's not caused by that RAM.
[04:32] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[04:32] <crimsun> I know there's a documented bugfix for the 1881A
[04:32] <DeannaTheGeek> I wish I had schematics for my motherboard
[04:33] <DeannaTheGeek> I'd love to rip this open & make sure it's not a loose wire
[04:33] <crimsun> speaking of which, the connectors are snug, correct?
[04:33] <DeannaTheGeek> there are speakers built into the laptop, no wires
[04:34] <crimsun> no headphone jack, either?
[04:34] <DeannaTheGeek> I connected headphones to the headphone jack-no sound there, either
[04:35] <crimsun> well, we could try the newest development version of the sound driver.
[04:35] <DeannaTheGeek> from edgy?
[04:35] <crimsun> you'd need to install the following packages: build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:35] <DeannaTheGeek> think it might help?
[04:35] <crimsun> no, from upstream (ALSA)
[04:35] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[04:36] <DeannaTheGeek> what command would I use?
[04:37] <crimsun> you could use Synaptic to install those packages, or you could use:  sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:46] <crimsun> (let me know if that's what you wish to do)
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi all.
[04:49] <DeannaTheGeek> well, it did something
[04:49] <DeannaTheGeek> do I need to reboot?
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh :/
[04:51] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: not yet, we haven't gotten the new drivers yet.
[04:52] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: next step: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2.tar.bz2
[04:56] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[04:57] <DeannaTheGeek> next step would be...
[04:57] <DeannaTheGeek> ...unpacking the tarball?
[04:57] <crimsun> yes
[04:58] <DeannaTheGeek> ok
[04:58] <DeannaTheGeek> how do I do that?
[04:59] <crimsun> tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2.tar.bz2
[05:00] <DeannaTheGeek> ok...
[05:01] <crimsun> I'm at work, so I won't be able to respond immediately
[05:01] <crimsun> essentially:
[05:02] <DeannaTheGeek> sorry if I'm being a pest
[05:04] <crimsun> cd alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2 && ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-debug=detect && make && sudo make install-modules && sudo depmod -e && kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx
[05:04] <crimsun> that will compile the driver, install it, close/kill all running sound apps, unload the current driver, erase the old state file, and load the new driver.
[05:05] <crimsun> at that point you should test with the aplay command again after checking that your volumes are unmuted and up to a reasonable (80%) level.
[06:25] <DeannaTheGeek> hmmm....
[06:25] <DeannaTheGeek> not wanting to recompile
[06:25] <DeannaTheGeek> thoughts?
[06:50] <crimsun> DeannaTheGeek: meaning it fails, or...?
[06:52] <DeannaTheGeek> keeps failing out
[06:53] <crimsun> where, and with what messages?
[06:53] <DeannaTheGeek> i keep trying to rerun that line of code you gave me a couple hours ago
[06:53] <DeannaTheGeek> I'll let you know if it fails again
[07:15] <DeannaTheGeek> FATAL: Module snd_ac97_bus not found.
[07:17] <DeannaTheGeek> happens after about 10-15 minutes after entering that code
[07:18] <DeannaTheGeek> lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[07:18] <DeannaTheGeek> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] 
[07:18] <DeannaTheGeek> FATAL: Module snd_ac97_bus not found.
[07:20] <crimsun> there's probably nothing to kill
[07:21] <DeannaTheGeek> well, whatever's happening, I now have a little red X next to my speaker icon, which I didn't have before
[07:22] <crimsun> right, your sound driver is unloaded, I suspect
[07:22] <crimsun> check the output of: lsmod |grep ^snd
[07:22] <DeannaTheGeek> :-D
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> made a whole lot of stuff
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> looking for anything in particular?
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_ac97_bus            2304  0
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_pcm_oss            53664  0
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_mixer_oss          18688  1 snd_pcm_oss
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_pcm                89864  1 snd_pcm_oss
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_timer              25220  1 snd_pcm
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd_page_alloc         10632  1 snd_pcm
[07:24] <DeannaTheGeek> snd                    55268  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[07:26] <DeannaTheGeek> it's after midnight-I need to crash
[07:26] <DeannaTheGeek> if you get any ideas, just keep typing & I'll see them when I wake up
[07:26] <DeannaTheGeek> thanks again for all the help Crimsun
[07:26] <DeannaTheGeek> if you're ever in Austin, TX, I'll owe ya a beer or two
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> crud. jboss core dumped :/ so much for todays hacking
[11:26] <ms_kai> brb
[02:04] <cliebow> ogra travelling?
[02:12] <DeannaTheGeek> morning
[02:12] <DeannaTheGeek> anyone awake?
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> morning DeannaTheGeek :) (hope you slept well)
[02:13] <DeannaTheGeek> I never sleep well-I always dream about work & SQL
[02:13] <DeannaTheGeek> :-D
[02:14] <DeannaTheGeek> how about you Kaiser?  you doing OK?
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> DeannaTheGeek, i was, until i realised i cant download a bunch of packages i need to do bug work :/
[02:16] <DeannaTheGeek> that stinks :-P
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, its worse then sleep :P
[02:16] <DeannaTheGeek> but not worse than what I'm about to go through
[02:17] <DeannaTheGeek> 4 hours of Saturday Morning Cartoons with the kids
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> my thoughts are with you!
[02:18] <cliebow> Roadrunner rules
[02:18] <DeannaTheGeek> did you know that Viva Pinata was a Saturday Morning Cartoon before it was an Xbox 360 game?
[02:18] <DeannaTheGeek> some of the ones on Kids' WB are OK
[02:18] <DeannaTheGeek> like the new Scooby Doo Get A Clue
[02:19] <DeannaTheGeek> and Loonatics Unleashed isn't too bad
[02:19] <DeannaTheGeek> but Monster Allergies is soo stupid
[02:20] <DeannaTheGeek> soo...
[02:20] <DeannaTheGeek> anyone up for a challenge this morning?  :-D
[02:21] <DeannaTheGeek> crimsun was helping me with my sound last night
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> its not morning yet!
[02:21] <DeannaTheGeek> now it REALLY not working
[02:21] <DeannaTheGeek> it's 7:30 am here
[02:21] <DeannaTheGeek> if my kids are awake, it must be morning
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> its 23:52 here, so its not morning!
[02:22] <DeannaTheGeek> where are you?
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> South Australia
[02:22] <DeannaTheGeek> groovy!!!
[02:22] <DeannaTheGeek> I'm in Austin, Texas, USA
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> neat.
[02:23] <DeannaTheGeek> I told my daughter I was talking to someone from Australia, and she asked if I was talking to Bindi's dad :-)
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats right, you wwere almost a whole day beind when we got the year 2000 ;)
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[02:24] <DeannaTheGeek> Crocodile Hunter
[02:24] <DeannaTheGeek> she's 5
[02:24] <DeannaTheGeek> and has a mind like a steel trap
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> tehehe.
[02:24] <DeannaTheGeek> http://ladyclairemarie.com
[02:25] <DeannaTheGeek> this would be her
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm happily anoyed - a sunblade 150 has PCI0 on its pci slots (where i dont expect it), a 100 has PCI0 onboard (where i'd expect it)
[02:26] <DeannaTheGeek> ok...
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh, sorry, random. i'm working on soem computers....
[02:26] <DeannaTheGeek> unless you're talking RPGs, I don't know a sunblade from a moonblade
[02:26] <DeannaTheGeek> :-)
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> that picutres pretty cute, btw
[02:27] <DeannaTheGeek> :-)
[02:27] <DeannaTheGeek> ty
[02:27] <DeannaTheGeek> she's my princess
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:28] <DeannaTheGeek> she actually has her Basic 3 evaluation today
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sunbade -> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade150/
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats basic 3?
[02:29] <DeannaTheGeek> figure skating-beginner skills level
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:30] <DeannaTheGeek> I didn't know Sun my computers
[02:30] <DeannaTheGeek> I thought they were just software
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> good heavens no :)
[02:31] <DeannaTheGeek> :-)
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:31] <DeannaTheGeek> I feel the way about the computers I build
[02:31] <DeannaTheGeek> which is why I'm trying to learn Linux and escape from Bill Gates' clutches
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> suns are proper computers, not pc crap (as a rule), like the alpha by digital. i love the things
[02:33] <DeannaTheGeek> I've only been in IT for 6 years now, so I'm still learning
[02:33] <DeannaTheGeek> maybe I'll learn more hanging around here
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> only? phht.
[02:33] <DeannaTheGeek> well, before that I was an Army linguist
[02:34] <DeannaTheGeek> and I spent my whole life working up to that
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> what do you linguise in? :P
[02:35] <DeannaTheGeek> spanish, italian, latin, french, german, portugese, and arabic
[02:36] <DeannaTheGeek> but I only really use Spanish now, since Texas is overrun by Mexicans
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> :O i cant even speak english and german properly *grin*
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> (actually, i'm good with english... its my native language, i just like the joke)
[02:36] <DeannaTheGeek> I speak english and bad english
[02:36] <DeannaTheGeek> and my kids & I are learning sign language
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i tried, it was too much effort when you dont know anyone who speaks it though
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> speaks/signs
[02:38] <DeannaTheGeek> my daughter<was born not able to hear well
[02:38] <DeannaTheGeek> she had to have surgery when she was 2
[02:39] <DeannaTheGeek> I figured, good idea to be prepared, just in case
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> good thinking
[02:40] <DeannaTheGeek> that, and it makes understanding my son a lot easier
[02:40] <DeannaTheGeek> he's not even 2 yet, and he does about 10 signs
[02:41] <DeannaTheGeek> cuts down on the tantrums
[02:42] <DeannaTheGeek> so do you have any ideas on how I can get my sound working?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ask crimsun to fix you up :)
[02:44] <DeannaTheGeek> I don't think he's around right now
[02:45] <DeannaTheGeek> lol
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnight DeannaTheGeek :) good luck with your sound this morning :)
[02:50] <DeannaTheGeek> thx
[02:50] <DeannaTheGeek> nite
[03:16] <Feral_Kid> Help!!! :) I used the lockdown editor to lock down my daughter's computer... I need to add some applets to the panel, but I have not been able to unlock her account in order to add the applets... Can someone tell me what I need to do?
[04:10] <crimsun> Deanna-NeedSound: you should unload all the sound modules
[04:10] <crimsun> Deanna-NeedSound: sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}')
[06:14] <cbx33> !seen ogra
[06:14] <ubotu> I last saw ogra (n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra) 23h 30m 32s ago, quiting: Connection timed out
[06:14] <juliux> cbx33, ogra is traveling home
[06:59] <juliux> hi LaserJock
[07:00] <LaserJock> hi juliux
[08:00] <jaybe_> hi, i have a problem with gnome-breakout on edubuntu 6.10
[08:00] <jaybe_> when I try to start gnome-breakout, I only receive the message:
[08:00] <jaybe_> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[08:00] <jaybe_>   serial 552 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0
[08:01] <jaybe_> Does anybody know the reason for this or a solution?
[08:01] <jaybe_> I've search launchpad but had no success
[08:04] <jaybe> hi, i have a problem with gnome-breakout on edubuntu 6.10
[08:04] <jaybe>  when I try to start gnome-breakout, I only receive the message:
[08:04] <jaybe>  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[08:04] <jaybe>    serial 552 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0
[08:04] <jaybe>  Does anybody know the reason for this or a solution?
[08:04] <jaybe>  I've search launchpad but had no success
[08:33] <bddebian> Heya
[08:34] <xvlun> hi
[08:34] <xvlun> are there any complications with the recent freenx version in edubuntu?
[08:45] <cliebow> still no ogra..
[08:46] <LaserJock> he should be traveling back home I think
[08:52] <littlepaul> hi I have a question. We have an thread since 8.1
[08:52] <littlepaul> Which device classes can be used by (thinclient)user and which group memberships are needed? The question regards the using of
[08:52] <littlepaul> serial devices over usb like phone or palme devices. The respective group for usb devices is fuse