=== rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === DeannaTheGeek [n=administ@70-252-30-194.ded.swbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] hiyas! [02:49] anyone awake? [02:49] not really [02:50] :-) [02:50] I'm a complete Linux n00b [02:50] welcome [02:50] I was hoping to pick some brains [02:50] this is a friday night and it is early UTC, thus few people on [02:51] I got this laptop from my sister for Xmas, and I installed edubuntu instead of running Windows ME [02:51] right [02:51] did you install the full version or just the workstation? [02:51] workstation, I believe [02:51] right [02:51] everything works great [02:51] perfect [02:52] you don't need us then :) [02:52] I even learned some cool stuff from a book called Ubuntu Hacks [02:52] I just can't get my sound to work :-( [02:52] ah [02:52] at all? [02:52] not at all [02:52] thin client/LTSP configuration or standalone? [02:52] Device Manager has the soundcard listed [02:52] standalone, I believe [02:53] this is my first time ever playing with Ubuntu [02:53] only Linux experience was Red Hat 9 a couple years ago [02:53] please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to provide the information requested at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11 [02:53] ? [02:54] apologies, I presumed you were asking for assistance. [02:54] well, assistance and conversation [02:55] maybe a mentor :-) [02:55] teach me to be an ubuntu Jedi, so to speak [02:55] I don't want to raise my daughter on Windows === DeannaTheGeek thinks she scared everyone away... [02:57] I am about to leave work, so just clearing up some stuff [02:59] DeannaTheGeek: I'm awaiting the requested information above if you're seeking assistance. [03:00] working on it [03:00] my hubby keeps IMing me jokes :-P [03:01] what do I put for syntax? [03:01] Text is acceptable. [03:02] ok [03:04] Please tell us the URL when you've finished that. [03:06] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3042/ [03:06] would this be it? [03:07] DeannaTheGeek: not precisely, no. [03:07] DeannaTheGeek: the latter URL I gave you above contains a numbered list of commands you should type in a Terminal. That's the output to which I'm referring. [03:08] (although I can surmise what you probably need to do) [03:11] the latter URL leads me to Bug 42718 [03:11] it should take you to a specific comment. [03:12] sound capture on Thinkpad [03:12] that one? [03:12] yes, I need the output from those numbered points. [03:12] please forgive me if I seem obtuse, it's been a long week [03:13] Heh, you're telling me. I'm still at work. [03:16] ick [03:16] I left work as soon as I possibly could [03:18] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3044/ [03:18] I ran all those commands [03:19] I think I got it all in there, but it's hard to tell when you have a 5-year-old hanging on your mouse arm [03:19] line 17 shows there's a bit omitted. [03:19] ? [03:20] probably got some cut off [03:20] there are additional lines in the output of ``amixer'' (at the top) that are missing. [03:20] crap [03:21] I need a few minutes-I need to throw in another load of laundry [03:21] when you're wife, mommy, breadwinner, & geek of the house, there's never any rest [03:21] :-P === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] sorry I'm a little slow tonight [03:46] it thinks I'm trying to spam & won't let me edit my entry [03:47] then just paste the first twenty lines of amixer from this command: amixer |head -20 [03:48] ok, I'll try [03:48] also trying to order pizza so kids don't try to eat me [03:54] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3047/ [03:55] DeannaTheGeek: please try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute [03:55] do I type that into the terminal? [03:56] copy and paste verbatim. [03:56] ok [03:56] DeannaTheGeek: after that: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav [03:57] does that latter command produce audible sound? [03:58] nope [03:58] Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 [03:58] Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined [03:58] Playback channels: Mono [03:58] Mono: Playback [off] [03:59] I feel stoopid [03:59] I can't figure out a stinkin' sound card problem [04:02] DeannaTheGeek: ok, sec, I need to check some additional things. [04:03] thanks [04:03] I really appreciate it [04:06] DeannaTheGeek: ok, I'll need all of amixer in a separate paste, please. [04:09] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3048/ [04:10] are these commands specific to Ubuntu, or are they universal Linux commands? [04:10] ok, is it a desktop or a laptop? [04:11] laptop [04:11] they're fairly universal. [04:11] Compaq Presario 1200US [04:11] ok, please try: amixer set 'Master Mono' 80%,unmute [04:12] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 [04:12] Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined [04:12] Playback channels: Mono [04:12] Limits: Playback 0 - 31 [04:12] Mono: Playback 25 [81%] [off] [04:12] amixer set 'Master Mono' unmute [04:13] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 [04:13] Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined [04:13] Playback channels: Mono [04:13] Limits: Playback 0 - 31 [04:13] Mono: Playback 25 [81%] [on] [04:13] ok, now try the aplay command again [04:13] I presume this is a fresh install of Dapper 6.06? [04:14] nothing [04:15] I installed it about a week ago, but yeah, it was to a cleanly formatted disk [04:16] ok, amixer set 'Capture' nocap && amixer set 'Aux' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Aux' unmute && amixer set 'PC Speaker' 80% && amixer set 'PC Speaker' unmute && amixer set 'Video' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Video' unmute && amixer set 'Line' 80%,80% && amixer set 'Line' unmute [04:16] (yep, copy and paste that whole thing) [04:16] including ok? [04:16] ;-) [04:18] tried the aplay command again, nothing [04:19] ok, did you also paste ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' ? [04:19] (the output from it, rather) [04:20] don't think so-it thought it was spam [04:24] trying to send you a file with all the info from that link [04:24] via dcc? I can't accept those. [04:24] crud [04:25] 1 sec [04:25] Mixers: [04:25] 0: Analog Devices AD1881A [04:27] ok, it's probable that bugfix is not present in 6.06 [04:27] ? [04:27] the 1881As have a driver bug [04:28] ok [04:28] we can test a newer version of ALSA if you're willing, have the time, and have broadband. [04:28] so I have a completely different problem [04:28] can I ask a stupid question first? [04:29] you may ask a question, certainly. [04:29] can a faulty memory module blow out an onboard sound device in a laptop? [04:29] not normally. [04:29] I tried upgrading my memory, and when I did, my screen went garbly [04:29] granted bad RAM can cause all sorts of nondeterministic errors [04:29] after that, my sound no workie [04:30] did you add a module or replace one? [04:30] that's when I switched from Windows to edubuntu [04:30] replaced one [04:30] do you still have the old one? [04:30] took out the 64 MB, added a 256 MB [04:30] I sent the new one back [04:30] had to put the old one back in to get the laptop to function [04:31] well, we can't rule out the possibility of hardware error, but it's fairly unlikely given you're running the original now. [04:31] and that the OS detects the sound card as a functioning device [04:31] everything in a laptop is interconnected, it could have done something strange [04:32] I'm fairly certain it's not caused by that RAM. [04:32] ok [04:32] I know there's a documented bugfix for the 1881A [04:32] I wish I had schematics for my motherboard [04:33] I'd love to rip this open & make sure it's not a loose wire [04:33] speaking of which, the connectors are snug, correct? [04:33] there are speakers built into the laptop, no wires [04:34] no headphone jack, either? [04:34] I connected headphones to the headphone jack-no sound there, either [04:35] well, we could try the newest development version of the sound driver. === _kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:35] from edgy? [04:35] you'd need to install the following packages: build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r) [04:35] think it might help? [04:35] no, from upstream (ALSA) [04:35] ok [04:36] what command would I use? [04:37] you could use Synaptic to install those packages, or you could use: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) [04:46] (let me know if that's what you wish to do) [04:48] hi all. [04:49] well, it did something [04:49] do I need to reboot? === DeannaTheGeek wishes she hadn't picked this week to quit smoking [04:51] heh :/ [04:51] DeannaTheGeek: not yet, we haven't gotten the new drivers yet. [04:52] DeannaTheGeek: next step: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2.tar.bz2 [04:56] ok [04:57] next step would be... [04:57] ...unpacking the tarball? [04:57] yes [04:58] ok [04:58] how do I do that? [04:59] tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2.tar.bz2 [05:00] ok... [05:01] I'm at work, so I won't be able to respond immediately [05:01] essentially: [05:02] sorry if I'm being a pest [05:04] cd alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2 && ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-debug=detect && make && sudo make install-modules && sudo depmod -e && kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx [05:04] that will compile the driver, install it, close/kill all running sound apps, unload the current driver, erase the old state file, and load the new driver. [05:05] at that point you should test with the aplay command again after checking that your volumes are unmuted and up to a reasonable (80%) level. === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-241-17-52.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:25] hmmm.... [06:25] not wanting to recompile [06:25] thoughts? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.57.177] has joined #edubuntu [06:50] DeannaTheGeek: meaning it fails, or...? [06:52] keeps failing out [06:53] where, and with what messages? [06:53] i keep trying to rerun that line of code you gave me a couple hours ago [06:53] I'll let you know if it fails again [07:15] FATAL: Module snd_ac97_bus not found. [07:17] happens after about 10-15 minutes after entering that code [07:18] lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory [07:18] kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] [07:18] FATAL: Module snd_ac97_bus not found. [07:20] there's probably nothing to kill [07:21] well, whatever's happening, I now have a little red X next to my speaker icon, which I didn't have before [07:22] right, your sound driver is unloaded, I suspect [07:22] check the output of: lsmod |grep ^snd [07:22] :-D [07:24] made a whole lot of stuff [07:24] looking for anything in particular? [07:24] snd_ac97_bus 2304 0 [07:24] snd_pcm_oss 53664 0 [07:24] snd_mixer_oss 18688 1 snd_pcm_oss [07:24] snd_pcm 89864 1 snd_pcm_oss [07:24] snd_timer 25220 1 snd_pcm [07:24] snd_page_alloc 10632 1 snd_pcm [07:24] snd 55268 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42957.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:26] it's after midnight-I need to crash [07:26] if you get any ideas, just keep typing & I'll see them when I wake up [07:26] thanks again for all the help Crimsun [07:26] if you're ever in Austin, TX, I'll owe ya a beer or two === DeannaTheGeek is now known as geek-sleeping [07:40] crud. jboss core dumped :/ so much for todays hacking === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === joumetal [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-151-219.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === ms_kai [n=ks@adsl-69-109-211-118.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:26] brb === ms_kai [n=ks@adsl-69-109-211-118.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@ppp221-106.static.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === joumetal [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A965E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey_ [n=herman@vpn.osso.nl] has joined #edubuntu [02:04] ogra travelling? === geek-sleeping is now known as DeannaTheGeek [02:12] morning [02:12] anyone awake? [02:13] morning DeannaTheGeek :) (hope you slept well) [02:13] I never sleep well-I always dream about work & SQL [02:13] :-D [02:14] how about you Kaiser? you doing OK? [02:15] DeannaTheGeek, i was, until i realised i cant download a bunch of packages i need to do bug work :/ [02:16] that stinks :-P [02:16] yeh, its worse then sleep :P [02:16] but not worse than what I'm about to go through === Kamping_Kaiser worries - your not about to compile are you? [02:17] 4 hours of Saturday Morning Cartoons with the kids === Kamping_Kaiser gasps [02:17] my thoughts are with you! [02:18] Roadrunner rules [02:18] did you know that Viva Pinata was a Saturday Morning Cartoon before it was an Xbox 360 game? [02:18] some of the ones on Kids' WB are OK [02:18] like the new Scooby Doo Get A Clue [02:19] and Loonatics Unleashed isn't too bad [02:19] but Monster Allergies is soo stupid [02:20] soo... [02:20] anyone up for a challenge this morning? :-D [02:21] crimsun was helping me with my sound last night [02:21] its not morning yet! [02:21] now it REALLY not working [02:21] it's 7:30 am here [02:21] if my kids are awake, it must be morning [02:22] its 23:52 here, so its not morning! [02:22] where are you? [02:22] South Australia [02:22] groovy!!! [02:22] I'm in Austin, Texas, USA [02:23] neat. [02:23] I told my daughter I was talking to someone from Australia, and she asked if I was talking to Bindi's dad :-) [02:23] thats right, you wwere almost a whole day beind when we got the year 2000 ;) [02:24] o_0 [02:24] Crocodile Hunter [02:24] she's 5 [02:24] and has a mind like a steel trap [02:24] tehehe. [02:24] http://ladyclairemarie.com [02:25] this would be her [02:25] i'm happily anoyed - a sunblade 150 has PCI0 on its pci slots (where i dont expect it), a 100 has PCI0 onboard (where i'd expect it) [02:26] ok... [02:26] heh, sorry, random. i'm working on soem computers.... [02:26] unless you're talking RPGs, I don't know a sunblade from a moonblade [02:26] :-) [02:27] lol [02:27] that picutres pretty cute, btw [02:27] :-) [02:27] ty [02:27] she's my princess [02:28] :) [02:28] she actually has her Basic 3 evaluation today [02:28] sunbade -> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade150/ [02:28] whats basic 3? [02:29] figure skating-beginner skills level [02:29] :) [02:30] I didn't know Sun my computers [02:30] I thought they were just software [02:30] good heavens no :) === Kamping_Kaiser hugs his sun gear [02:31] :-) [02:31] :) [02:31] I feel the way about the computers I build [02:31] which is why I'm trying to learn Linux and escape from Bill Gates' clutches [02:32] suns are proper computers, not pc crap (as a rule), like the alpha by digital. i love the things === Kamping_Kaiser has some alphas as well [02:33] I've only been in IT for 6 years now, so I'm still learning [02:33] maybe I'll learn more hanging around here [02:33] only? phht. [02:33] well, before that I was an Army linguist [02:34] and I spent my whole life working up to that [02:35] what do you linguise in? :P [02:35] spanish, italian, latin, french, german, portugese, and arabic [02:36] but I only really use Spanish now, since Texas is overrun by Mexicans [02:36] :O i cant even speak english and german properly *grin* [02:36] (actually, i'm good with english... its my native language, i just like the joke) [02:36] I speak english and bad english [02:36] and my kids & I are learning sign language === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.149.0.211] has joined #edubuntu [02:37] i tried, it was too much effort when you dont know anyone who speaks it though [02:37] speaks/signs [02:38] my daughter she had to have surgery when she was 2 [02:39] I figured, good idea to be prepared, just in case [02:39] good thinking === Kamping_Kaiser packs up so hes function at the meeting tomorrow [02:40] that, and it makes understanding my son a lot easier === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:40] he's not even 2 yet, and he does about 10 signs [02:41] cuts down on the tantrums [02:42] so do you have any ideas on how I can get my sound working? [02:43] ask crimsun to fix you up :) === Kamping_Kaiser knows nothing about sound at all - i cant even get my 4.0 speakers working :/ [02:44] I don't think he's around right now === Kamping_Kaiser takes piles of crud off his bed so theres room to sleep on it [02:45] lol === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [02:49] gnight DeannaTheGeek :) good luck with your sound this morning :) [02:50] thx [02:50] nite === ms_kai [n=ks@adsl-69-109-211-118.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === ms_kai [n=ks@adsl-69-109-211-118.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-241-55-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@201.170.16.254] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] Help!!! :) I used the lockdown editor to lock down my daughter's computer... I need to add some applets to the panel, but I have not been able to unlock her account in order to add the applets... Can someone tell me what I need to do? === DeannaTheGeek is now known as Deanna-NeedSound === pitux [n=pitux@32-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [04:10] Deanna-NeedSound: you should unload all the sound modules [04:10] Deanna-NeedSound: sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') === pirast [n=martin@p508B0447.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-225-120.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-225-120.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] !seen ogra [06:14] I last saw ogra (n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra) 23h 30m 32s ago, quiting: Connection timed out [06:14] cbx33, ogra is traveling home === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [06:59] hi LaserJock [07:00] hi juliux === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.57.177] has joined #edubuntu === jaybe_ [n=jb@dslb-084-059-037-070.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d429b4.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:00] hi, i have a problem with gnome-breakout on edubuntu 6.10 [08:00] when I try to start gnome-breakout, I only receive the message: [08:00] Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) [08:00] serial 552 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 [08:01] Does anybody know the reason for this or a solution? [08:01] I've search launchpad but had no success === jaybe [n=jb@dslb-084-059-037-070.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === jaybe_ [n=jb@dslb-084-059-037-070.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [08:04] hi, i have a problem with gnome-breakout on edubuntu 6.10 [08:04] when I try to start gnome-breakout, I only receive the message: [08:04] Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) [08:04] serial 552 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 [08:04] Does anybody know the reason for this or a solution? [08:04] I've search launchpad but had no success === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:33] Heya [08:34] hi [08:34] are there any complications with the recent freenx version in edubuntu? === littlepaul [n=littlepa@ip37.231.reserved.ish.de] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] still no ogra.. [08:46] he should be traveling back home I think [08:52] hi I have a question. We have an thread since 8.1 [08:52] Which device classes can be used by (thinclient)user and which group memberships are needed? The question regards the using of [08:52] serial devices over usb like phone or palme devices. 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