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mhbyuriy: me too12:38
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ash211hello all01:09
tomahello ash21101:09
ash211i was directed here by dsas regarding bug 8176801:10
UbugtuMalone bug 81768 in amarok "Don't compile amarok packages with Stack Smashing Protection" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8176801:10
ash211apparently compiling amarok with it causes UTF-8 errors in Amarok's collection scanner01:10
ash211but since SSP is enabled for _all_ packages in Ubuntu, there's a bit of a hassle to change things01:11
ash211anybody know what can be done?01:11
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tomaisnt there a configure parameter to disable it?01:12
ash211it's a gcc thing, so it can't be easily changed01:13
ash211let me just quote dean:01:13
ash211<dsas> ash211: I think ssp is enabled by default for every package, so as such it's probably amarok that would need changing, but gcc, that said it probably needs a decision from the amarok maintainers.01:14
ash211<dsas> ash211: [snip]  if I recall correctly ssp is not something specified in a debian/rules packaging file but further down the toolchain.01:14
ash211this was on #ubuntu-bugs a few minutes ago01:15
tomaash211: okay01:15
tomaash211: i dont think anyone able to deal with it is up01:15
ash211guess that's why we have bugtrackers and IRC logs!01:15
toma;-)01:16
ash211thanks for the help anyway01:16
tomanp, sorry that i cant help01:16
NeoChaosXquestion: who does packaging of the newest KOffice?01:19
NeoChaosXthe Krita 1.6.1 packages for Edgy don't have gif support01:21
Jucatohmm what are the *-proposed repos for?01:26
gnomefreakJucato: testing packages before they are backported01:26
Jucatosomeone should tell that in #kubuntu...01:26
gnomefreakeh they are gonna do it anyway all you can really say is theya re not supported (but either are backport repos but we erge people to get flash 9 from there because it cant be uploaded to official repos01:28
Jucatohm... let's just say that they are less to be supported than -backports. :P01:29
gnomefreak!info krita edgy01:29
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB01:29
gnomefreakNeoChaosX: your suing the 3.5.6 kde?01:29
gnomefreakusing*01:29
Jucatognomefreak: KOffice 1.6.101:30
Jucatothat's released separately from KDE01:30
NeoChaosXyeah01:30
gnomefreakoh yeah doh01:30
NeoChaosXthere's 1.6.1 packages available for edgy, but they don't have gif support compiled in for some reason01:30
gnomefreakand edgy does have koffice 1.6.1 last i heard :(01:30
NeoChaosX1.5.2, the version included with Edgy, has gif support01:31
Jucatoyes I can confirm that (a few weeks ago). You can't save as GIF in Krita01:31
Jucatosave/export01:31
NeoChaosXi was going to ask if there would be an update to those 1.6.1 packages to include that support, or if i'd have to wait until feisty01:31
gnomefreakmaybe it was backported but i could swear it ended up in edgy01:32
Jucatoit's in Edgy01:32
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php01:33
gnomefreaknot from what ubotu is telling me but i could have sworen we got it in edgy01:33
Jucatoubotu doesn't query kubuntu.org repos, afaik01:33
gnomefreakthose are unofficial repos in a sense01:34
gnomefreakJucato: it was uploaded to edgy01:34
Jucatomain?01:34
gnomefreakchecking now01:34
Jucatopolicy says no01:34
gnomefreakguess not :( i wass checking backports01:35
gnomefreakthought imbrandon was building it for edgy (or atleast one of the betas)01:36
Jucatoguess we'll just have to wait for Riddell to wake up01:36
gnomefreakmust have been feisty01:36
NeoChaosXdang01:36
Jucatobut I can confirm the behavior, and can see that I can save as GIF in KOffice 1.6.1 from SVN01:36
gnomefreakmight want to file a bug on the krita issue incase you forgot by than01:36
NeoChaosXit's already been filed, but nobody's acted on it yet01:37
Jucatobug report #?01:37
gnomefreakNeoChaosX: you got bug number handy?01:37
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NeoChaosXhold on01:37
gnomefreakJucato: can you please confirm it i want to try something01:37
Jucatognomefreak: sure01:38
gnomefreakty01:38
NeoChaosXhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/7171101:38
UbugtuMalone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita 1.6 in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed] 01:38
Jucatohm... not sure if it can't open GIFs though... that part I can't remember/haven't tested01:38
NeoChaosXit can't, i just tried it01:38
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NeoChaosXgifs don't show up in the filepicker, and gif isn't an supported filetype option01:39
gnomefreakanyone have a gif handy?01:39
Jucatothe bug has been confirmed already01:39
gnomefreakthat might be why i didnt see it01:39
Jucatognomefreak: Google? :P01:39
gnomefreakhmmm01:39
gnomefreaki have one01:40
gnomefreakbut like he said it dont show up in filepicker01:40
gnomefreaksvn is ok?01:40
Jucatoyep01:40
NeoChaosXyeah, looks like an overlooked dependency didn't get compiled in01:41
gnomefreaksame thing in feisty01:41
Jucatono GIF support in feisty too?01:41
NeoChaosXdang01:41
gnomefreaklet me check a few other things real fast01:41
gnomefreakdoes png happen to show up in file picker for you guys?01:42
NeoChaosXyeah, png's a supported filetype for me01:42
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Jucatobrb01:42
gnomefreakgive me 15 minutes or so phone01:45
gnomefreakgif == unsupported in feisty as well01:50
gnomefreakok bbs i have to get somethings done before bed01:51
NeoChaosXalright01:51
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JucatoHobbsee!!!04:15
Hobbseehey Jucato!04:17
manchicken^_^04:25
Hobbseeheya manchicken04:26
manchickenHello all you happy people.04:26
Jucatohi manchicken!04:26
manchickenWhat's going on?04:27
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manchickenheh04:27
manchickenMiller Lite just isn't doing it for me.04:27
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manchickenMan, I could really use some real beer.04:27
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manchickenJucato: I like deer chili.05:09
JucatoO.o05:09
manchickenI take it you've never had deer chili.05:20
yuriyare there any kdevelop 3.4 packages somewhere?06:31
Hobbsee!info kdevelop3 feisty06:32
ubotukdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB06:32
Hobbsee!info kdevelop feisty06:32
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.5-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 7817 kB, installed size 24712 kB06:32
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JucatoHobbsee: hello! do you know who packaged KOffice 1.6.x?06:33
Hobbseeyuriy:   kdevelop | 4:3.3.6-0ubuntu1 | http://kubuntu.org feisty/main Packages?06:33
HobbseeJucato: probably Riddell?06:33
Hobbseeor imbrandon?06:33
Jucatoah ok. we'll just wait for them to wake up :)06:33
manchickenHacking time.06:34
Jucato6am UTC...06:34
Jucatomanchicken: on what?06:34
manchickenTrying to get tooltips into my supported packages indicator icon.06:34
Jucatoah nice :)06:35
manchickenThen I'm thinking of adding popularity info06:35
Jucatoha! lot of good that will do :P06:35
Jucatowanna bet libxine-extracodecs would be one of the most popular for Kubuntu? :D06:35
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HobbseeJucato: yeah, if it got turned on06:35
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yuriyHobbsee: 3.4 isn't released yet, it's around beta level afaik, i was hoping to use it because it's designed for qt4, whereas with 3.3 you have to set environmental variables and start from scratch if you want to use qt406:36
JucatoHobbsee: if manchicken's popularity info will be based on number of times downloaded or something... it will definitely be one of the most popular :)06:36
manchickenRight, but if you're installing text editors the popularity information could be useful to help people use GNU Emacs instead of vi or nano ;)06:36
manchickenJucato: It'll be whatever is in the .desktop file.06:36
Jucatolol :)06:37
manchickenPerhaps I'll do changelog stuff first.06:37
yuriyHobbsee: i was actually trying to do the usplash-switcher thing, sounded like a good beginner c++/qt project06:37
Hobbseeyuriy: :)06:37
Hobbseeah ha....06:37
JucatoI thought KDevelop 3.4 was going to be released with KDE 3.5.6?06:37
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yuriyJucato: with as in around the same time06:38
yuriyso probably like in a week : )06:38
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yuriyJucato: well designed mostly as in the templates in it are for qt406:38
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JucatoI want to learn to develop for Qt 3/KDE 3 first :P06:39
yuriyfrom the FAQ for 3.3: Use "Hello World" when creating a new project, not "Application", or your first Qt4 project will be a Qt3->Qt4 porting project :)06:39
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yuriyme too06:39
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Mez#include <Qt4.h>06:40
HobbseeMez: heh06:40
yuriyJucato: i think starting now with qt3/kde3 is kinda of silly. instantly obsolete.06:40
Mezs/Qt5/Qt4/06:40
Jucatoyuriy: I just want to start working on something that's already there and something that will still be used for quite some time06:40
Jucatonot everybody will be keen on upgrading to KDE 4.0 immediately, maybe 4.106:41
Jucatodoesn't mean I won't be studying KDE 4 in depth though...06:41
yuriywell then make 4.1 come faster :P06:41
Jucatolol :)06:41
JucatoI wish I make 4.0 come faster :)06:41
Jucato(for some reason, those sentences just don't sound right...)06:42
yuriydon't we all. but quality comes first of course06:42
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yuriyso nobody knows of any kdevelop 3.4 packages? ok i guess i need to find out what QTDIR is supposed to be and start from scratch06:46
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Jucatomanchicken: you could have said "Okay, anybody spefically know how to get a specific tooltip over a specific column in a speicific qlistviewitem or a specific qpixmap?" :D06:57
manchickenActually, if I could tie a tooltip to a pixmap that'd be ideal.06:58
manchickenI've got the pixmap in global context, it would make sense to have the tooltip attached to it.06:58
yuriyif you can't tie a tooltip to a pixmap, can you put the pixmap in some other widget and just tie the tooltip to that?07:01
manchickenWell, it's in a qlistviewitem07:01
manchickenIn a specific column of that qlistviewitem07:01
manchickenThat may or may not be resized.07:01
yuriyoh right and you can only add pixmaps and strings to it, right?07:02
manchickenDunno... but there'd be serious reworking to change it.07:03
Mezany -core-dev around ?07:05
Mezcrimsun, ?07:05
crimsunhi?07:05
Mezcrimsun, I've got a patch for konversation i think would be a good idea07:06
yuriybtw looks like qlistviewitems are gone in qt407:06
Mezcrimsun, it's a one line change, setting the port of the default server to 800107:07
Mezsecures people from the DCC exploit07:07
Mezwould you mind uploading ?07:07
crimsunthrow me a debdiff, sure07:07
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Mezcrimsun, http://rafb.net/p/10H0rB14.html07:09
manchickenI think I figured it out.07:10
Mezcrimsun, actually - scratch taht07:11
Mezlemme fix it properly07:11
Mezthat patch doesnt work07:11
manchickenyuriy: The adept port to qt4/kde4 will be a considerable undertaking.07:19
yuriymanchicken: i can imagine. wait no, i can't07:19
manchickenheh07:19
manchickenI ported the SMS protocol for kopete's KDE4 porting efforts...07:19
manchickenQuite tedious.07:19
manchickenAnd that was only a small plugin for kopete.07:20
yuriyi'm far too spoiled by java and python.. and even scheme. c/c++ is hard :P07:21
manchickenI may hate Java less once the GPL'ed stuff comes out.07:21
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manchickenUntil then I really dislike it.07:21
manchicken^_^07:22
yuriyi'm not liking it particularly. swing is quite a pain07:22
manchickenC++ really is quite easy.07:22
yuriyyean, i'm just not used to it. i forgot how you have to make headers and prototypes and stuff07:22
Mezcrimsun, this works: http://rafb.net/p/qcalvn44.txt07:23
manchickenYou don't always have to do it that way.07:23
yuriymy intro programming class a few years ago was c++, but pretty much every class i've taken since has used java07:23
manchickenYou only have to make headers if you want other C/C++ files to be able to use stuff.07:23
manchickenYeah, I have a problem with that.07:23
yuriywe have an operating systems class at my school and THAT uses java07:23
manchickenIt's only because Sun managed to gain some market share, and now we've got a bunch of college students with less than adequate educations.07:24
manchickenUIUC has been corrupted by mostly Java curriculum for almost 10 years now.07:25
yuriyi think my college just uses it because it's fairly easy, and they don't actually teach us programming anyway07:25
manchickenBut that's assuming that something else is harder.07:25
manchickenAnd I would disagree.07:26
crimsuna good curriculum _doesn't_ teach you programming07:26
manchickenTry handling system interrupts in Java.07:26
manchickenTry doing anything that involves OS interaction in Java.07:26
manchickenSignals, memory management, etc.07:27
yuriycrimsun: well then we have a good curriculum :) and yeah i know what you mean07:27
yuriymanchicken: yeah that's why i think it's really weird that the Systems course uses it07:27
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manchickenyuriy: I also don't think colleges should teach non-free software.07:28
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yuriywell, that unfortunately is just how it is. though java is almost free :) and other than that my cs department is actually fairly insistent on OSS07:28
manchickenIt's not about open source, it's about colleges not perpetuating corrupt systems ;)07:29
manchickenbut that's another topic for a time when I'm not hacking ;)07:29
yuriyour computer lab has red hat on the desktops and the admin refuses to entertain any request to add windows computers, it's great07:29
yuriyah sorry to distract!07:29
manchickenRedhat perpetuates that same corrupt system.07:29
yuriyhmm?07:30
manchickenAnybody who sells non-free software perpetuates that corrupt system.07:31
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yuriy_ah my c++ skills... over a dozen errors from a couple lines of code08:31
manchickenThat's not just you ^_^08:32
manchickenThat's everybody.08:32
manchickenThat's programming ;)08:32
manchickenStart with the first message and go from there ;)08:32
yuriy_usually get away with a couple... and in scripts  you can only get one at a time08:33
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Riddellfrerich_, clee: it's a freedesktop.org project12:10
Riddellyuriy: how do you know about kdevelop 3.4?12:10
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Riddellhi Hobbsee12:40
Hobbseehey Riddell!12:40
Hobbseeanyone got any good jobs around?12:40
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mhbhi Hobbsee12:48
Hobbseehey mhb!12:48
mhbhmm... is it normal to mount a CD automatically?12:48
Riddellyes12:49
mhbon startup12:49
mhbthat was a surprise to me, thanks for answering12:50
Riddelldunno12:50
mhbRiddell: Crystal will be the default iconset for Feisty?12:51
Hobbseemhb: cds should automount, yes12:51
Tm_THobbsee: I know a lot of doctors needing here. ;)12:52
HobbseeTm_T: i'm no doctor :(12:52
Riddellmhb: yes12:52
Tm_THobbsee: Hmm, then busdriver?12:52
Tm_TNurse?12:52
HobbseeTm_T: actually, i saw some nice bus driver jobs :P12:53
Tm_THonest politician?12:53
Tm_THmm, no, that wasn't available...12:53
mhbRiddell: crystal icon for sharing looks kind of confusing ... /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/actions/share.png12:54
Riddellmhb: yep12:55
HobbseeTm_T: hah12:55
HobbseeTm_T: well, i can yell at people :P12:56
Riddellmhb, Hobbsee: either of you on edgy?12:58
HobbseeRiddell: nope, sorry.    i do have an edgy partition that i can reboot to though12:59
RiddellI need kdevelop 3.4 tested for sanity12:59
mhbRiddell: not right now, although I can boot another computer with it if you need it12:59
Riddellnow in the same archive as kde 3.5.612:59
mhbRiddell: about the confusing icon: it would be most likely a waste of time to create a brand new one for an iconset that gets obsolete very soon01:04
Riddellmhb: yep01:05
mhbRiddell: the icon is (also) used as an emblem - appears on the folders that are shared01:05
Riddellyes01:05
mhbRiddell: perhaps we can try taking that icon from another iconset or modifying the sharing emblem of Human to match Crystal colors01:06
Riddellmhb: you need to talk to kwwii about it01:06
mhbokay, I'll poke him01:07
RiddellHobbsee, mhb: either of you testing?01:07
HobbseeRiddell: not at the moment01:07
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mhbRiddell: I'll test it in 3 minutes01:08
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Tm_THobbsee: Hmm, yell? I "work" as school assistant. ;)01:20
HobbseeTm_T: hehe01:20
mhbRiddell: remember when you talked with Tonio about pop-ups and he said something about bluetooth having a pop-up on every startup? It's true.01:20
mhbRiddell: installing kdevelop, btw01:20
HobbseeTm_T: well, as long as you avoid the chairs being thrown at you01:20
Tm_THobbsee: No need to avoid desks?01:21
HobbseeTm_T: ahh...so the kids there are stronger than the kids here, at least at that age...01:21
Tm_THobbsee: Well, some of those 7 year old are heavier than me... ;)01:22
Hobbseeheh01:22
Tm_TAnd they never come at me alone, ouch.01:22
Hobbseenow that's *scary*01:22
Riddellmhb: it's true if you have a bluetooth adaptor, the icon should be enough though01:22
mhbRiddell: it doesn't pop up only an icon01:26
mhbRiddell: it a) plays a sound b) pops-up "Adapter found" on top left c) shows the icon01:26
mhbRiddell: kdevelop seems to work fine for me01:27
Riddellmhb: excellent thanks01:27
Riddellhmm, playing sound is a bit evil01:27
Riddellwell, it's all good if you plug in a device01:28
Riddellbut if it's in from startup you just need the icon01:28
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mhbRiddell: kbluetoothd plays KDE_Dialog_Appear.wav when it detects the adapter ... and it plays it before the startup sound - it may give the user a feeling of an error01:30
Riddellshouldn't be hard to patch01:31
Riddelljust a if (!KApplication::isRestored()) {  }  around the popup and sound lines01:31
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mhbRiddell: it seems mp3 support is handled by libxine1-ffmpeg now, which is in main02:11
Riddellhow confusing02:11
Riddellguess we need to update amarok02:11
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Tm_TMaybe I can drop my biggest need of XP finally.02:13
Riddellwhat's that?02:14
mhbRiddell: since it is in main, everyone is free (as in freedom) to use that?02:14
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Tm_TRiddell: My iPaq doesn't understand anything else sync but MS Exchange OR MS Outlook with MS ActiveSync.02:15
Tm_TThat's basically only big problem with this machine.02:16
mhbRiddell: that means - is it still legally impossible to add it into Kubuntu-desktop?02:18
Riddellmost certainly it is02:18
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Hobbseeso...why's libxine1-ffmpeg in main?02:18
Riddellsiretart was fed up splitting it, or something02:19
Hobbseeright02:20
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Riddellnew kipi-plugins I see02:33
Jucatohi Riddell! have you seen NeoChaosX's questions?02:33
Riddelldon't think so02:36
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Jucatoit's about KOffice 1.6.x having no GIF support02:36
Jucatobug 7171102:36
UbugtuMalone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita 1.6 in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7171102:36
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Tm_TOuch02:38
Tm_TJucato: Can you throw me with a GIF ?02:38
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Jucatohm.. let me look02:39
Tm_TAh, found one.02:39
Jucatobah02:39
Tm_T...and works, but I compile myself.02:39
Jucatoditto02:39
Jucatosvn works of course, if compiled with GIF support02:39
Tm_TJucato: Well, it's not always "ofcourse" ;)02:40
Jucatosorry, I put the comma in the wrong place02:40
Jucato"svn works, of course if compiled with GIF support"02:40
Jucato:P02:40
Tm_T...02:40
Jucato(but then again, I could build koffice from branches, and had to settle for tags 1.6.102:41
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_Simedoes the edgy install disk include the option to resize NTFS partitions? anyone?03:04
Tm_T_Sime: Without destroying files inside? Hmm, no idea.03:05
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_SimeI'm good at destruction. But non-destructive was the idea...03:14
_Simethe installer might have it.03:14
_SimeI'll just have to try it out.03:17
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RadiantFire_Sime: it does03:41
_Simeok thanks03:41
RadiantFire_Sime: It takes a while and there is no progress bar though03:41
RadiantFireor something like that03:42
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manchickenheh, has anybody watched the memory footprint of amarok while it's running?05:12
manchickenIt seems to just keep going and going and going...05:13
manchickenNot too fast, but certainly noticeable.05:13
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ReTyPei just installed Kubuntu64 on my harddisk, and i think i found a bug, when it adds itself to grub, it says Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu 64 !!05:16
Jucatoit never says Kubuntu in GRUB at all05:16
manchickenThat's not a bug.05:17
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manchickenKubuntu is ubuntu with KDE.05:17
ReTyPehmm, i know, but it was confusing for me, as i installed it next to an ubuntu05:17
ReTyPeok, and how do i test the newest kde ?05:17
manchickenYou can change that yourself.05:17
ReTyPei know in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:17
ReTyPewhen i try to run update manager i dont get kde 3.5.605:18
ReTyPeit says "a next version is available, klik nest" and then closes05:19
gnomefreakReTyPe: is this edgy?05:20
jdonggnomefreak: given the next version..... message, I think it's probably feisty?05:21
ReTyPethe latest kubuntu 64 , the beta 205:21
gnomefreakjdong: i was thinking edgy with -d option05:21
jdonggnomefreak: does kubuntu have any -d options? :D05:22
gnomefreakReTyPe: what version does lsb_release -a05:22
gnomefreaksay05:22
gnomefreakupdate-manager does05:22
jdonggnomefreak: yeah but he just installed kubuntu...05:22
gnomefreakjdong: but he said he used update-manager05:22
ReTyPeubuntu feisty 7.0405:23
gnomefreakwithout the -05:23
gnomefreakReTyPe: thats not the latest but ok05:23
jdongReTyPe: use synaptic or adept or apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade05:23
gnomefreakReTyPe: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  should install the new kde stuff if its not already05:23
jdongReTyPe: to effect a full system update05:23
ReTyPein init 3 ?05:23
jdongno....05:24
jdongdon't use runlevel 3 please05:24
gnomefreaklol05:24
jdongjust the default standard GUI is fine05:24
jdongyou can update it in place just fine05:24
jdongReTyPe: there is no "runlevel 3" concept in Ubuntu....05:24
jdong1 is single user, 2 is normal05:24
jdongthat's all that's really implemented05:24
ReTyPewhen i open KDE System settings, i get unsopported platform05:26
jdongcan you please fully update your system first?05:27
ReTyPei need to change my network settings05:27
jdonggiven those circumstances you're better doing that at the command line05:28
ReTyPeok, i change my resolv.conf manually05:31
ReTyPenow apt-get is working05:32
ReTyPelooks like installing 3.5.605:32
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ReTyPei want to update my nvidia drivers, so i can get native tft resolution05:35
ReTyPe/var/cache/apt/archives/adept-common_2.1.2ubuntu10_all.deb05:46
ReTyPeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:46
ReTyPehttp://rafb.net/p/Ex3zIJ92.html05:47
ReTyPeanyone still here ?05:52
mhbReTyPe: have patience05:53
mhbReTyPe: if someone wants to reply, he will05:54
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ReTyPei did an aptitude upgrade first, now it works06:06
nixternalReTyPe: FYI, #ubuntu+1 is probably the best place for you to get support on the development versions of Ubuntu. Here is where the devs usually collaborate, but seeing it as a weekend, I am sure they are all out dancing and doing whatever06:21
ReTyPek, thx i found the chan allready06:24
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bddebianHeya08:33
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mhbevening bddebian08:49
bddebianHeya mhb08:50
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mhbis there any Kubuntu-specific HOWTO on how to build KDE4 ?09:16
mhb(i.e. a list of packages needed)09:16
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nixternalwow, pinheiro and kwwii o2 is so f'n hot!09:33
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nixternalman, I love the Konqueror buttons hardcore, and the new buttons in Kontact, the folders, everything09:34
nixternalI want them icons in my firefox too :)09:34
mhbnixternal: I started working on that a while ago09:36
mhbnixternal: but the icons change so fast and it's not allowed to use those icons before KDE4 launches09:36
nixternalI can use them :)09:39
nixternalI have a .deb now of it I created, so it will be easy to update09:40
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mhbnixternal: use as in release09:45
nixternaloh ya, I am not releasing them, I am using them local09:45
nixternalman, there are a lot of super clear icons, which I have never seen before. Even at 16x16 you can totally make out the icons09:46
nixternalexcellent09:46
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yuriynixternal: any chance you want to send me that deb to try out? :)10:02
mhbyuriy: it's easy to fetch it from SVN & build10:02
mhbyuriy: two commands, actually :o)10:02
nixternalya yuriy, unless pinheiro or kwwii said it was OK I would, but like mhb said it is easy to do yourself10:03
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yuriyi don't understand?10:04
mhbyuriy: do a svn chceckout in trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen10:04
nixternalall you need I believe is theme and utils10:05
mhbtrue10:05
yuriymhb: i guess i will. i've been too lazy to check it out because i don't dislike crystal10:05
pinheiroheya10:05
nixternalthere are still some missing icons, but I can't wait until the final release10:05
nixternalhiya pinheiro!10:05
yuriynixternal: i meant i don't understand what distributing a deb violates10:05
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pinheiroheya nixternal10:06
nixternalyuriy: truthfully, their COPYING file states I can't do what I did pretty much in the first place, so sending it to you would violate the developers rule even more10:07
nixternalnow, if it was an icon package for windows and they were trying to be sneaky, then I would hand it out to the world with a smile, but since it is pinheiro and kwwii doing the good stuff, I figured I would be nice :)10:07
pinheirowe encourage every one to test it for a spin10:09
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yuriyic10:09
pinheirobut its still a work in progress so general publick reliese is not a good idea10:09
pinheirowe want to get it as good as possible before that10:10
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mhbpinheiro: I like the new back,forward browser icons too10:15
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pinheirosemas most people do10:16
pinheiroseams10:16
pinheirokite hapy with them actualy10:16
yuriyit seems i forgot my password, though i don't think i did. this is rather annoying.10:24
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danimoheya!11:19
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danimodoes anyone know why kdevelop 3.4.0 packages were announced on kubuntu.org, but the download links reference the KDE repo?11:24
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Luredanimo: probably cut&paste by Riddell ;-)11:27
danimoLure: no, it actually even references that page11:28
danimowell, that could be a c&p error, too11:28
danimoLuw11:28
danimoLure: what repo has it then?11:29
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Luredanimo: it says: Update: KDevelop 3.4 has now been added to the archive.11:29
Luredanimo: so it looks like you need 3.5.6 repo11:30
danimook, then my mirror simply didn't synch yet11:30
Luredanimo: feisty or edgy? kdevelop 3.4 is not yet in feisty11:31
Luredanimo: edgy is there http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/pool-edgy/kdevelop34/11:31
danimoah11:33
mhbdanimo: the packages are in the 356 repo11:33
mhbdanimo: which you probably figured out by now :o)11:33
danimomhb: well, I used the official kde repo as announced on kubuntu.org, which is a ftp.kde.org mirror11:34
mhbah11:35
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manchicken_Okay, so who wants to help me stick a tooltip on a pixmap in a specific column of a specific qlistviewitem? ;)11:43
nixternalheh11:43
nixternalcan't be too hard now can it?11:43
manchicken_That's what I thought.11:43
manchicken_I've been fighting it off and on for about 1.5 weeks now.11:44
yuriywow11:44
yuriyhmm where did that qt:/ kio or whatever it was that i have on edgy come from...11:45
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Riddelldanimo: they're in the KDE repository11:58
Riddellrobertknight!11:58
robertknightRiddell: Hello :)11:59
danimoRiddell: right, unless you use ftp.kde.org11:59
manchicken_Riddell: You got any tips for my previous question? ;)11:59
Riddelldanimo: oh aye, I need to rsync that, oops11:59
Riddellmanchicken_: what's that?11:59
manchicken_"Okay, so who wants to help me stick a tooltip on a pixmap in a specific column of a specific qlistviewitem? ;)"12:00
yuriymanchicken_: might be a little overboard, but would it be possible to subclass qpixmap, give it some sort of tooltip capability, and use that?12:00
manchicken_I thought about that, but tooltips only work on qwidgets.12:01
danimoRiddell :)12:01
Riddellmanchicken_: qlistviews have always seemed inflexible to me12:02
Riddellin qt 3 and 412:02
danimomanchicken_: there is a hack for that in Qt3, it's simple with a custom model in qt412:04
danimomanchicken_: unfortunately, I don't remember the qt3 hack12:04
danimomanchicken_: browsing the kde-devel and qt-interest archives should help though12:04
ryanakcahmm... interesting DVD box cover for 6.10.. http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/50005-kubuntucover2.JPG12:05
tomamanchicken_: KListView::setTooltipColumn   (   int   column    )12:06
manchicken_That reminds me...  I handed out the last of my edgy CDs sharing the love.  Anybody know where I might be able to find some more?  Or how much do they cost?12:06
manchicken_toma: Is that KDE3?12:07
tomamanchicken_: yeps12:07
manchicken_toma: If you're right I'll send out a message to the mailing list declaring you as my hero.  heh12:07
tomaoh noes. then everyone is going to ask me for advise ;-012:08
tomamanchicken_: you probably want a klistview anyhow to get all the fancy colors ;-)12:11
tomao no, thats handled by the klistviewitems12:12
tomaah, bla..12:12
manchicken_I'm working on legacy code, so I didn't really get much choice.12:13
nixternalmanchicken_: FREE for the CDs12:13
nixternalcheck out the ShipIt links, but you can't get Edgy, however I can and will put in another order12:14
manchicken_nixternal: I'm gonna try to be at the next chibuntu, so I'll bring you a sixpack to help cover your expenses ;)12:14
nixternala sixer of Green Tea will do just fine :)12:15
manchicken_The Sobe stuff?12:15
manchicken_Or snapple?12:15
nixternalit is my new addiction. No the Diet Lipton w/ Citrus12:15
manchickenOoh, a discerning palette.12:15
nixternalhehe12:15

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