mhb | yuriy: me too | 12:38 |
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ash211 | hello all | 01:09 |
toma | hello ash211 | 01:09 |
ash211 | i was directed here by dsas regarding bug 81768 | 01:10 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 81768 in amarok "Don't compile amarok packages with Stack Smashing Protection" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81768 | 01:10 |
ash211 | apparently compiling amarok with it causes UTF-8 errors in Amarok's collection scanner | 01:10 |
ash211 | but since SSP is enabled for _all_ packages in Ubuntu, there's a bit of a hassle to change things | 01:11 |
ash211 | anybody know what can be done? | 01:11 |
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toma | isnt there a configure parameter to disable it? | 01:12 |
ash211 | it's a gcc thing, so it can't be easily changed | 01:13 |
ash211 | let me just quote dean: | 01:13 |
ash211 | <dsas> ash211: I think ssp is enabled by default for every package, so as such it's probably amarok that would need changing, but gcc, that said it probably needs a decision from the amarok maintainers. | 01:14 |
ash211 | <dsas> ash211: [snip] if I recall correctly ssp is not something specified in a debian/rules packaging file but further down the toolchain. | 01:14 |
ash211 | this was on #ubuntu-bugs a few minutes ago | 01:15 |
toma | ash211: okay | 01:15 |
toma | ash211: i dont think anyone able to deal with it is up | 01:15 |
ash211 | guess that's why we have bugtrackers and IRC logs! | 01:15 |
toma | ;-) | 01:16 |
ash211 | thanks for the help anyway | 01:16 |
toma | np, sorry that i cant help | 01:16 |
NeoChaosX | question: who does packaging of the newest KOffice? | 01:19 |
NeoChaosX | the Krita 1.6.1 packages for Edgy don't have gif support | 01:21 |
Jucato | hmm what are the *-proposed repos for? | 01:26 |
gnomefreak | Jucato: testing packages before they are backported | 01:26 |
Jucato | someone should tell that in #kubuntu... | 01:26 |
gnomefreak | eh they are gonna do it anyway all you can really say is theya re not supported (but either are backport repos but we erge people to get flash 9 from there because it cant be uploaded to official repos | 01:28 |
Jucato | hm... let's just say that they are less to be supported than -backports. :P | 01:29 |
gnomefreak | !info krita edgy | 01:29 |
ubotu | krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB | 01:29 |
gnomefreak | NeoChaosX: your suing the 3.5.6 kde? | 01:29 |
gnomefreak | using* | 01:29 |
Jucato | gnomefreak: KOffice 1.6.1 | 01:30 |
Jucato | that's released separately from KDE | 01:30 |
NeoChaosX | yeah | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | oh yeah doh | 01:30 |
NeoChaosX | there's 1.6.1 packages available for edgy, but they don't have gif support compiled in for some reason | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | and edgy does have koffice 1.6.1 last i heard :( | 01:30 |
NeoChaosX | 1.5.2, the version included with Edgy, has gif support | 01:31 |
Jucato | yes I can confirm that (a few weeks ago). You can't save as GIF in Krita | 01:31 |
Jucato | save/export | 01:31 |
NeoChaosX | i was going to ask if there would be an update to those 1.6.1 packages to include that support, or if i'd have to wait until feisty | 01:31 |
gnomefreak | maybe it was backported but i could swear it ended up in edgy | 01:32 |
Jucato | it's in Edgy | 01:32 |
Jucato | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php | 01:33 |
gnomefreak | not from what ubotu is telling me but i could have sworen we got it in edgy | 01:33 |
Jucato | ubotu doesn't query kubuntu.org repos, afaik | 01:33 |
gnomefreak | those are unofficial repos in a sense | 01:34 |
gnomefreak | Jucato: it was uploaded to edgy | 01:34 |
Jucato | main? | 01:34 |
gnomefreak | checking now | 01:34 |
Jucato | policy says no | 01:34 |
gnomefreak | guess not :( i wass checking backports | 01:35 |
gnomefreak | thought imbrandon was building it for edgy (or atleast one of the betas) | 01:36 |
Jucato | guess we'll just have to wait for Riddell to wake up | 01:36 |
gnomefreak | must have been feisty | 01:36 |
NeoChaosX | dang | 01:36 |
Jucato | but I can confirm the behavior, and can see that I can save as GIF in KOffice 1.6.1 from SVN | 01:36 |
gnomefreak | might want to file a bug on the krita issue incase you forgot by than | 01:36 |
NeoChaosX | it's already been filed, but nobody's acted on it yet | 01:37 |
Jucato | bug report #? | 01:37 |
gnomefreak | NeoChaosX: you got bug number handy? | 01:37 |
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NeoChaosX | hold on | 01:37 |
gnomefreak | Jucato: can you please confirm it i want to try something | 01:37 |
Jucato | gnomefreak: sure | 01:38 |
gnomefreak | ty | 01:38 |
NeoChaosX | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/71711 | 01:38 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita 1.6 in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:38 |
Jucato | hm... not sure if it can't open GIFs though... that part I can't remember/haven't tested | 01:38 |
NeoChaosX | it can't, i just tried it | 01:38 |
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NeoChaosX | gifs don't show up in the filepicker, and gif isn't an supported filetype option | 01:39 |
gnomefreak | anyone have a gif handy? | 01:39 |
Jucato | the bug has been confirmed already | 01:39 |
gnomefreak | that might be why i didnt see it | 01:39 |
Jucato | gnomefreak: Google? :P | 01:39 |
gnomefreak | hmmm | 01:39 |
gnomefreak | i have one | 01:40 |
gnomefreak | but like he said it dont show up in filepicker | 01:40 |
gnomefreak | svn is ok? | 01:40 |
Jucato | yep | 01:40 |
NeoChaosX | yeah, looks like an overlooked dependency didn't get compiled in | 01:41 |
gnomefreak | same thing in feisty | 01:41 |
Jucato | no GIF support in feisty too? | 01:41 |
NeoChaosX | dang | 01:41 |
gnomefreak | let me check a few other things real fast | 01:41 |
gnomefreak | does png happen to show up in file picker for you guys? | 01:42 |
NeoChaosX | yeah, png's a supported filetype for me | 01:42 |
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Jucato | brb | 01:42 |
gnomefreak | give me 15 minutes or so phone | 01:45 |
gnomefreak | gif == unsupported in feisty as well | 01:50 |
gnomefreak | ok bbs i have to get somethings done before bed | 01:51 |
NeoChaosX | alright | 01:51 |
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Jucato | Hobbsee!!! | 04:15 |
Hobbsee | hey Jucato! | 04:17 |
manchicken | ^_^ | 04:25 |
Hobbsee | heya manchicken | 04:26 |
manchicken | Hello all you happy people. | 04:26 |
Jucato | hi manchicken! | 04:26 |
manchicken | What's going on? | 04:27 |
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manchicken | heh | 04:27 |
manchicken | Miller Lite just isn't doing it for me. | 04:27 |
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manchicken | Man, I could really use some real beer. | 04:27 |
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manchicken | Jucato: I like deer chili. | 05:09 |
Jucato | O.o | 05:09 |
manchicken | I take it you've never had deer chili. | 05:20 |
yuriy | are there any kdevelop 3.4 packages somewhere? | 06:31 |
Hobbsee | !info kdevelop3 feisty | 06:32 |
ubotu | kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB | 06:32 |
Hobbsee | !info kdevelop feisty | 06:32 |
ubotu | kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.5-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 7817 kB, installed size 24712 kB | 06:32 |
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Jucato | Hobbsee: hello! do you know who packaged KOffice 1.6.x? | 06:33 |
Hobbsee | yuriy: kdevelop | 4:3.3.6-0ubuntu1 | http://kubuntu.org feisty/main Packages? | 06:33 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: probably Riddell? | 06:33 |
Hobbsee | or imbrandon? | 06:33 |
Jucato | ah ok. we'll just wait for them to wake up :) | 06:33 |
manchicken | Hacking time. | 06:34 |
Jucato | 6am UTC... | 06:34 |
Jucato | manchicken: on what? | 06:34 |
manchicken | Trying to get tooltips into my supported packages indicator icon. | 06:34 |
Jucato | ah nice :) | 06:35 |
manchicken | Then I'm thinking of adding popularity info | 06:35 |
Jucato | ha! lot of good that will do :P | 06:35 |
Jucato | wanna bet libxine-extracodecs would be one of the most popular for Kubuntu? :D | 06:35 |
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Hobbsee | Jucato: yeah, if it got turned on | 06:35 |
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yuriy | Hobbsee: 3.4 isn't released yet, it's around beta level afaik, i was hoping to use it because it's designed for qt4, whereas with 3.3 you have to set environmental variables and start from scratch if you want to use qt4 | 06:36 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: if manchicken's popularity info will be based on number of times downloaded or something... it will definitely be one of the most popular :) | 06:36 |
manchicken | Right, but if you're installing text editors the popularity information could be useful to help people use GNU Emacs instead of vi or nano ;) | 06:36 |
manchicken | Jucato: It'll be whatever is in the .desktop file. | 06:36 |
Jucato | lol :) | 06:37 |
manchicken | Perhaps I'll do changelog stuff first. | 06:37 |
yuriy | Hobbsee: i was actually trying to do the usplash-switcher thing, sounded like a good beginner c++/qt project | 06:37 |
Hobbsee | yuriy: :) | 06:37 |
Hobbsee | ah ha.... | 06:37 |
Jucato | I thought KDevelop 3.4 was going to be released with KDE 3.5.6? | 06:37 |
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yuriy | Jucato: with as in around the same time | 06:38 |
yuriy | so probably like in a week : ) | 06:38 |
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yuriy | Jucato: well designed mostly as in the templates in it are for qt4 | 06:38 |
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Jucato | I want to learn to develop for Qt 3/KDE 3 first :P | 06:39 |
yuriy | from the FAQ for 3.3: Use "Hello World" when creating a new project, not "Application", or your first Qt4 project will be a Qt3->Qt4 porting project :) | 06:39 |
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yuriy | me too | 06:39 |
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Mez | #include <Qt4.h> | 06:40 |
Hobbsee | Mez: heh | 06:40 |
yuriy | Jucato: i think starting now with qt3/kde3 is kinda of silly. instantly obsolete. | 06:40 |
Mez | s/Qt5/Qt4/ | 06:40 |
Jucato | yuriy: I just want to start working on something that's already there and something that will still be used for quite some time | 06:40 |
Jucato | not everybody will be keen on upgrading to KDE 4.0 immediately, maybe 4.1 | 06:41 |
Jucato | doesn't mean I won't be studying KDE 4 in depth though... | 06:41 |
yuriy | well then make 4.1 come faster :P | 06:41 |
Jucato | lol :) | 06:41 |
Jucato | I wish I make 4.0 come faster :) | 06:41 |
Jucato | (for some reason, those sentences just don't sound right...) | 06:42 |
yuriy | don't we all. but quality comes first of course | 06:42 |
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yuriy | so nobody knows of any kdevelop 3.4 packages? ok i guess i need to find out what QTDIR is supposed to be and start from scratch | 06:46 |
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Jucato | manchicken: you could have said "Okay, anybody spefically know how to get a specific tooltip over a specific column in a speicific qlistviewitem or a specific qpixmap?" :D | 06:57 |
manchicken | Actually, if I could tie a tooltip to a pixmap that'd be ideal. | 06:58 |
manchicken | I've got the pixmap in global context, it would make sense to have the tooltip attached to it. | 06:58 |
yuriy | if you can't tie a tooltip to a pixmap, can you put the pixmap in some other widget and just tie the tooltip to that? | 07:01 |
manchicken | Well, it's in a qlistviewitem | 07:01 |
manchicken | In a specific column of that qlistviewitem | 07:01 |
manchicken | That may or may not be resized. | 07:01 |
yuriy | oh right and you can only add pixmaps and strings to it, right? | 07:02 |
manchicken | Dunno... but there'd be serious reworking to change it. | 07:03 |
Mez | any -core-dev around ? | 07:05 |
Mez | crimsun, ? | 07:05 |
crimsun | hi? | 07:05 |
Mez | crimsun, I've got a patch for konversation i think would be a good idea | 07:06 |
yuriy | btw looks like qlistviewitems are gone in qt4 | 07:06 |
Mez | crimsun, it's a one line change, setting the port of the default server to 8001 | 07:07 |
Mez | secures people from the DCC exploit | 07:07 |
Mez | would you mind uploading ? | 07:07 |
crimsun | throw me a debdiff, sure | 07:07 |
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Mez | crimsun, http://rafb.net/p/10H0rB14.html | 07:09 |
manchicken | I think I figured it out. | 07:10 |
Mez | crimsun, actually - scratch taht | 07:11 |
Mez | lemme fix it properly | 07:11 |
Mez | that patch doesnt work | 07:11 |
manchicken | yuriy: The adept port to qt4/kde4 will be a considerable undertaking. | 07:19 |
yuriy | manchicken: i can imagine. wait no, i can't | 07:19 |
manchicken | heh | 07:19 |
manchicken | I ported the SMS protocol for kopete's KDE4 porting efforts... | 07:19 |
manchicken | Quite tedious. | 07:19 |
manchicken | And that was only a small plugin for kopete. | 07:20 |
yuriy | i'm far too spoiled by java and python.. and even scheme. c/c++ is hard :P | 07:21 |
manchicken | I may hate Java less once the GPL'ed stuff comes out. | 07:21 |
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manchicken | Until then I really dislike it. | 07:21 |
manchicken | ^_^ | 07:22 |
yuriy | i'm not liking it particularly. swing is quite a pain | 07:22 |
manchicken | C++ really is quite easy. | 07:22 |
yuriy | yean, i'm just not used to it. i forgot how you have to make headers and prototypes and stuff | 07:22 |
Mez | crimsun, this works: http://rafb.net/p/qcalvn44.txt | 07:23 |
manchicken | You don't always have to do it that way. | 07:23 |
yuriy | my intro programming class a few years ago was c++, but pretty much every class i've taken since has used java | 07:23 |
manchicken | You only have to make headers if you want other C/C++ files to be able to use stuff. | 07:23 |
manchicken | Yeah, I have a problem with that. | 07:23 |
yuriy | we have an operating systems class at my school and THAT uses java | 07:23 |
manchicken | It's only because Sun managed to gain some market share, and now we've got a bunch of college students with less than adequate educations. | 07:24 |
manchicken | UIUC has been corrupted by mostly Java curriculum for almost 10 years now. | 07:25 |
yuriy | i think my college just uses it because it's fairly easy, and they don't actually teach us programming anyway | 07:25 |
manchicken | But that's assuming that something else is harder. | 07:25 |
manchicken | And I would disagree. | 07:26 |
crimsun | a good curriculum _doesn't_ teach you programming | 07:26 |
manchicken | Try handling system interrupts in Java. | 07:26 |
manchicken | Try doing anything that involves OS interaction in Java. | 07:26 |
manchicken | Signals, memory management, etc. | 07:27 |
yuriy | crimsun: well then we have a good curriculum :) and yeah i know what you mean | 07:27 |
yuriy | manchicken: yeah that's why i think it's really weird that the Systems course uses it | 07:27 |
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manchicken | yuriy: I also don't think colleges should teach non-free software. | 07:28 |
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yuriy | well, that unfortunately is just how it is. though java is almost free :) and other than that my cs department is actually fairly insistent on OSS | 07:28 |
manchicken | It's not about open source, it's about colleges not perpetuating corrupt systems ;) | 07:29 |
manchicken | but that's another topic for a time when I'm not hacking ;) | 07:29 |
yuriy | our computer lab has red hat on the desktops and the admin refuses to entertain any request to add windows computers, it's great | 07:29 |
yuriy | ah sorry to distract! | 07:29 |
manchicken | Redhat perpetuates that same corrupt system. | 07:29 |
yuriy | hmm? | 07:30 |
manchicken | Anybody who sells non-free software perpetuates that corrupt system. | 07:31 |
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yuriy_ | ah my c++ skills... over a dozen errors from a couple lines of code | 08:31 |
manchicken | That's not just you ^_^ | 08:32 |
manchicken | That's everybody. | 08:32 |
manchicken | That's programming ;) | 08:32 |
manchicken | Start with the first message and go from there ;) | 08:32 |
yuriy_ | usually get away with a couple... and in scripts you can only get one at a time | 08:33 |
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Riddell | frerich_, clee: it's a freedesktop.org project | 12:10 |
Riddell | yuriy: how do you know about kdevelop 3.4? | 12:10 |
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Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 12:40 |
Hobbsee | hey Riddell! | 12:40 |
Hobbsee | anyone got any good jobs around? | 12:40 |
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mhb | hi Hobbsee | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | hey mhb! | 12:48 |
mhb | hmm... is it normal to mount a CD automatically? | 12:48 |
Riddell | yes | 12:49 |
mhb | on startup | 12:49 |
mhb | that was a surprise to me, thanks for answering | 12:50 |
Riddell | dunno | 12:50 |
mhb | Riddell: Crystal will be the default iconset for Feisty? | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | mhb: cds should automount, yes | 12:51 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: I know a lot of doctors needing here. ;) | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: i'm no doctor :( | 12:52 |
Riddell | mhb: yes | 12:52 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Hmm, then busdriver? | 12:52 |
Tm_T | Nurse? | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: actually, i saw some nice bus driver jobs :P | 12:53 |
Tm_T | Honest politician? | 12:53 |
Tm_T | Hmm, no, that wasn't available... | 12:53 |
mhb | Riddell: crystal icon for sharing looks kind of confusing ... /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/actions/share.png | 12:54 |
Riddell | mhb: yep | 12:55 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: hah | 12:55 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: well, i can yell at people :P | 12:56 |
Riddell | mhb, Hobbsee: either of you on edgy? | 12:58 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: nope, sorry. i do have an edgy partition that i can reboot to though | 12:59 |
Riddell | I need kdevelop 3.4 tested for sanity | 12:59 |
mhb | Riddell: not right now, although I can boot another computer with it if you need it | 12:59 |
Riddell | now in the same archive as kde 3.5.6 | 12:59 |
mhb | Riddell: about the confusing icon: it would be most likely a waste of time to create a brand new one for an iconset that gets obsolete very soon | 01:04 |
Riddell | mhb: yep | 01:05 |
mhb | Riddell: the icon is (also) used as an emblem - appears on the folders that are shared | 01:05 |
Riddell | yes | 01:05 |
mhb | Riddell: perhaps we can try taking that icon from another iconset or modifying the sharing emblem of Human to match Crystal colors | 01:06 |
Riddell | mhb: you need to talk to kwwii about it | 01:06 |
mhb | okay, I'll poke him | 01:07 |
Riddell | Hobbsee, mhb: either of you testing? | 01:07 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: not at the moment | 01:07 |
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mhb | Riddell: I'll test it in 3 minutes | 01:08 |
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Tm_T | Hobbsee: Hmm, yell? I "work" as school assistant. ;) | 01:20 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: hehe | 01:20 |
mhb | Riddell: remember when you talked with Tonio about pop-ups and he said something about bluetooth having a pop-up on every startup? It's true. | 01:20 |
mhb | Riddell: installing kdevelop, btw | 01:20 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: well, as long as you avoid the chairs being thrown at you | 01:20 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: No need to avoid desks? | 01:21 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: ahh...so the kids there are stronger than the kids here, at least at that age... | 01:21 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Well, some of those 7 year old are heavier than me... ;) | 01:22 |
Hobbsee | heh | 01:22 |
Tm_T | And they never come at me alone, ouch. | 01:22 |
Hobbsee | now that's *scary* | 01:22 |
Riddell | mhb: it's true if you have a bluetooth adaptor, the icon should be enough though | 01:22 |
mhb | Riddell: it doesn't pop up only an icon | 01:26 |
mhb | Riddell: it a) plays a sound b) pops-up "Adapter found" on top left c) shows the icon | 01:26 |
mhb | Riddell: kdevelop seems to work fine for me | 01:27 |
Riddell | mhb: excellent thanks | 01:27 |
Riddell | hmm, playing sound is a bit evil | 01:27 |
Riddell | well, it's all good if you plug in a device | 01:28 |
Riddell | but if it's in from startup you just need the icon | 01:28 |
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mhb | Riddell: kbluetoothd plays KDE_Dialog_Appear.wav when it detects the adapter ... and it plays it before the startup sound - it may give the user a feeling of an error | 01:30 |
Riddell | shouldn't be hard to patch | 01:31 |
Riddell | just a if (!KApplication::isRestored()) { } around the popup and sound lines | 01:31 |
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mhb | Riddell: it seems mp3 support is handled by libxine1-ffmpeg now, which is in main | 02:11 |
Riddell | how confusing | 02:11 |
Riddell | guess we need to update amarok | 02:11 |
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Tm_T | Maybe I can drop my biggest need of XP finally. | 02:13 |
Riddell | what's that? | 02:14 |
mhb | Riddell: since it is in main, everyone is free (as in freedom) to use that? | 02:14 |
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Tm_T | Riddell: My iPaq doesn't understand anything else sync but MS Exchange OR MS Outlook with MS ActiveSync. | 02:15 |
Tm_T | That's basically only big problem with this machine. | 02:16 |
mhb | Riddell: that means - is it still legally impossible to add it into Kubuntu-desktop? | 02:18 |
Riddell | most certainly it is | 02:18 |
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Hobbsee | so...why's libxine1-ffmpeg in main? | 02:18 |
Riddell | siretart was fed up splitting it, or something | 02:19 |
Hobbsee | right | 02:20 |
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Riddell | new kipi-plugins I see | 02:33 |
Jucato | hi Riddell! have you seen NeoChaosX's questions? | 02:33 |
Riddell | don't think so | 02:36 |
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Jucato | it's about KOffice 1.6.x having no GIF support | 02:36 |
Jucato | bug 71711 | 02:36 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita 1.6 in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71711 | 02:36 |
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Tm_T | Ouch | 02:38 |
Tm_T | Jucato: Can you throw me with a GIF ? | 02:38 |
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Jucato | hm.. let me look | 02:39 |
Tm_T | Ah, found one. | 02:39 |
Jucato | bah | 02:39 |
Tm_T | ...and works, but I compile myself. | 02:39 |
Jucato | ditto | 02:39 |
Jucato | svn works of course, if compiled with GIF support | 02:39 |
Tm_T | Jucato: Well, it's not always "ofcourse" ;) | 02:40 |
Jucato | sorry, I put the comma in the wrong place | 02:40 |
Jucato | "svn works, of course if compiled with GIF support" | 02:40 |
Jucato | :P | 02:40 |
Tm_T | ... | 02:40 |
Jucato | (but then again, I could build koffice from branches, and had to settle for tags 1.6.1 | 02:41 |
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_Sime | does the edgy install disk include the option to resize NTFS partitions? anyone? | 03:04 |
Tm_T | _Sime: Without destroying files inside? Hmm, no idea. | 03:05 |
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_Sime | I'm good at destruction. But non-destructive was the idea... | 03:14 |
_Sime | the installer might have it. | 03:14 |
_Sime | I'll just have to try it out. | 03:17 |
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RadiantFire | _Sime: it does | 03:41 |
_Sime | ok thanks | 03:41 |
RadiantFire | _Sime: It takes a while and there is no progress bar though | 03:41 |
RadiantFire | or something like that | 03:42 |
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manchicken | heh, has anybody watched the memory footprint of amarok while it's running? | 05:12 |
manchicken | It seems to just keep going and going and going... | 05:13 |
manchicken | Not too fast, but certainly noticeable. | 05:13 |
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ReTyPe | i just installed Kubuntu64 on my harddisk, and i think i found a bug, when it adds itself to grub, it says Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu 64 !! | 05:16 |
Jucato | it never says Kubuntu in GRUB at all | 05:16 |
manchicken | That's not a bug. | 05:17 |
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manchicken | Kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE. | 05:17 |
ReTyPe | hmm, i know, but it was confusing for me, as i installed it next to an ubuntu | 05:17 |
ReTyPe | ok, and how do i test the newest kde ? | 05:17 |
manchicken | You can change that yourself. | 05:17 |
ReTyPe | i know in /boot/grub/menu.lst | 05:17 |
ReTyPe | when i try to run update manager i dont get kde 3.5.6 | 05:18 |
ReTyPe | it says "a next version is available, klik nest" and then closes | 05:19 |
gnomefreak | ReTyPe: is this edgy? | 05:20 |
jdong | gnomefreak: given the next version..... message, I think it's probably feisty? | 05:21 |
ReTyPe | the latest kubuntu 64 , the beta 2 | 05:21 |
gnomefreak | jdong: i was thinking edgy with -d option | 05:21 |
jdong | gnomefreak: does kubuntu have any -d options? :D | 05:22 |
gnomefreak | ReTyPe: what version does lsb_release -a | 05:22 |
gnomefreak | say | 05:22 |
gnomefreak | update-manager does | 05:22 |
jdong | gnomefreak: yeah but he just installed kubuntu... | 05:22 |
gnomefreak | jdong: but he said he used update-manager | 05:22 |
ReTyPe | ubuntu feisty 7.04 | 05:23 |
gnomefreak | without the - | 05:23 |
gnomefreak | ReTyPe: thats not the latest but ok | 05:23 |
jdong | ReTyPe: use synaptic or adept or apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:23 |
gnomefreak | ReTyPe: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should install the new kde stuff if its not already | 05:23 |
jdong | ReTyPe: to effect a full system update | 05:23 |
ReTyPe | in init 3 ? | 05:23 |
jdong | no.... | 05:24 |
jdong | don't use runlevel 3 please | 05:24 |
gnomefreak | lol | 05:24 |
jdong | just the default standard GUI is fine | 05:24 |
jdong | you can update it in place just fine | 05:24 |
jdong | ReTyPe: there is no "runlevel 3" concept in Ubuntu.... | 05:24 |
jdong | 1 is single user, 2 is normal | 05:24 |
jdong | that's all that's really implemented | 05:24 |
ReTyPe | when i open KDE System settings, i get unsopported platform | 05:26 |
jdong | can you please fully update your system first? | 05:27 |
ReTyPe | i need to change my network settings | 05:27 |
jdong | given those circumstances you're better doing that at the command line | 05:28 |
ReTyPe | ok, i change my resolv.conf manually | 05:31 |
ReTyPe | now apt-get is working | 05:32 |
ReTyPe | looks like installing 3.5.6 | 05:32 |
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ReTyPe | i want to update my nvidia drivers, so i can get native tft resolution | 05:35 |
ReTyPe | /var/cache/apt/archives/adept-common_2.1.2ubuntu10_all.deb | 05:46 |
ReTyPe | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 05:46 |
ReTyPe | http://rafb.net/p/Ex3zIJ92.html | 05:47 |
ReTyPe | anyone still here ? | 05:52 |
mhb | ReTyPe: have patience | 05:53 |
mhb | ReTyPe: if someone wants to reply, he will | 05:54 |
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ReTyPe | i did an aptitude upgrade first, now it works | 06:06 |
nixternal | ReTyPe: FYI, #ubuntu+1 is probably the best place for you to get support on the development versions of Ubuntu. Here is where the devs usually collaborate, but seeing it as a weekend, I am sure they are all out dancing and doing whatever | 06:21 |
ReTyPe | k, thx i found the chan allready | 06:24 |
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bddebian | Heya | 08:33 |
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mhb | evening bddebian | 08:49 |
bddebian | Heya mhb | 08:50 |
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mhb | is there any Kubuntu-specific HOWTO on how to build KDE4 ? | 09:16 |
mhb | (i.e. a list of packages needed) | 09:16 |
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nixternal | wow, pinheiro and kwwii o2 is so f'n hot! | 09:33 |
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nixternal | man, I love the Konqueror buttons hardcore, and the new buttons in Kontact, the folders, everything | 09:34 |
nixternal | I want them icons in my firefox too :) | 09:34 |
mhb | nixternal: I started working on that a while ago | 09:36 |
mhb | nixternal: but the icons change so fast and it's not allowed to use those icons before KDE4 launches | 09:36 |
nixternal | I can use them :) | 09:39 |
nixternal | I have a .deb now of it I created, so it will be easy to update | 09:40 |
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mhb | nixternal: use as in release | 09:45 |
nixternal | oh ya, I am not releasing them, I am using them local | 09:45 |
nixternal | man, there are a lot of super clear icons, which I have never seen before. Even at 16x16 you can totally make out the icons | 09:46 |
nixternal | excellent | 09:46 |
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yuriy | nixternal: any chance you want to send me that deb to try out? :) | 10:02 |
mhb | yuriy: it's easy to fetch it from SVN & build | 10:02 |
mhb | yuriy: two commands, actually :o) | 10:02 |
nixternal | ya yuriy, unless pinheiro or kwwii said it was OK I would, but like mhb said it is easy to do yourself | 10:03 |
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yuriy | i don't understand? | 10:04 |
mhb | yuriy: do a svn chceckout in trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen | 10:04 |
nixternal | all you need I believe is theme and utils | 10:05 |
mhb | true | 10:05 |
yuriy | mhb: i guess i will. i've been too lazy to check it out because i don't dislike crystal | 10:05 |
pinheiro | heya | 10:05 |
nixternal | there are still some missing icons, but I can't wait until the final release | 10:05 |
nixternal | hiya pinheiro! | 10:05 |
yuriy | nixternal: i meant i don't understand what distributing a deb violates | 10:05 |
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pinheiro | heya nixternal | 10:06 |
nixternal | yuriy: truthfully, their COPYING file states I can't do what I did pretty much in the first place, so sending it to you would violate the developers rule even more | 10:07 |
nixternal | now, if it was an icon package for windows and they were trying to be sneaky, then I would hand it out to the world with a smile, but since it is pinheiro and kwwii doing the good stuff, I figured I would be nice :) | 10:07 |
pinheiro | we encourage every one to test it for a spin | 10:09 |
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yuriy | ic | 10:09 |
pinheiro | but its still a work in progress so general publick reliese is not a good idea | 10:09 |
pinheiro | we want to get it as good as possible before that | 10:10 |
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mhb | pinheiro: I like the new back,forward browser icons too | 10:15 |
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pinheiro | semas most people do | 10:16 |
pinheiro | seams | 10:16 |
pinheiro | kite hapy with them actualy | 10:16 |
yuriy | it seems i forgot my password, though i don't think i did. this is rather annoying. | 10:24 |
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danimo | heya! | 11:19 |
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danimo | does anyone know why kdevelop 3.4.0 packages were announced on kubuntu.org, but the download links reference the KDE repo? | 11:24 |
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Lure | danimo: probably cut&paste by Riddell ;-) | 11:27 |
danimo | Lure: no, it actually even references that page | 11:28 |
danimo | well, that could be a c&p error, too | 11:28 |
danimo | Luw | 11:28 |
danimo | Lure: what repo has it then? | 11:29 |
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Lure | danimo: it says: Update: KDevelop 3.4 has now been added to the archive. | 11:29 |
Lure | danimo: so it looks like you need 3.5.6 repo | 11:30 |
danimo | ok, then my mirror simply didn't synch yet | 11:30 |
Lure | danimo: feisty or edgy? kdevelop 3.4 is not yet in feisty | 11:31 |
Lure | danimo: edgy is there http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/pool-edgy/kdevelop34/ | 11:31 |
danimo | ah | 11:33 |
mhb | danimo: the packages are in the 356 repo | 11:33 |
mhb | danimo: which you probably figured out by now :o) | 11:33 |
danimo | mhb: well, I used the official kde repo as announced on kubuntu.org, which is a ftp.kde.org mirror | 11:34 |
mhb | ah | 11:35 |
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manchicken_ | Okay, so who wants to help me stick a tooltip on a pixmap in a specific column of a specific qlistviewitem? ;) | 11:43 |
nixternal | heh | 11:43 |
nixternal | can't be too hard now can it? | 11:43 |
manchicken_ | That's what I thought. | 11:43 |
manchicken_ | I've been fighting it off and on for about 1.5 weeks now. | 11:44 |
yuriy | wow | 11:44 |
yuriy | hmm where did that qt:/ kio or whatever it was that i have on edgy come from... | 11:45 |
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Riddell | danimo: they're in the KDE repository | 11:58 |
Riddell | robertknight! | 11:58 |
robertknight | Riddell: Hello :) | 11:59 |
danimo | Riddell: right, unless you use ftp.kde.org | 11:59 |
manchicken_ | Riddell: You got any tips for my previous question? ;) | 11:59 |
Riddell | danimo: oh aye, I need to rsync that, oops | 11:59 |
Riddell | manchicken_: what's that? | 11:59 |
manchicken_ | "Okay, so who wants to help me stick a tooltip on a pixmap in a specific column of a specific qlistviewitem? ;)" | 12:00 |
yuriy | manchicken_: might be a little overboard, but would it be possible to subclass qpixmap, give it some sort of tooltip capability, and use that? | 12:00 |
manchicken_ | I thought about that, but tooltips only work on qwidgets. | 12:01 |
danimo | Riddell :) | 12:01 |
Riddell | manchicken_: qlistviews have always seemed inflexible to me | 12:02 |
Riddell | in qt 3 and 4 | 12:02 |
danimo | manchicken_: there is a hack for that in Qt3, it's simple with a custom model in qt4 | 12:04 |
danimo | manchicken_: unfortunately, I don't remember the qt3 hack | 12:04 |
danimo | manchicken_: browsing the kde-devel and qt-interest archives should help though | 12:04 |
ryanakca | hmm... interesting DVD box cover for 6.10.. http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/50005-kubuntucover2.JPG | 12:05 |
toma | manchicken_: KListView::setTooltipColumn ( int column ) | 12:06 |
manchicken_ | That reminds me... I handed out the last of my edgy CDs sharing the love. Anybody know where I might be able to find some more? Or how much do they cost? | 12:06 |
manchicken_ | toma: Is that KDE3? | 12:07 |
toma | manchicken_: yeps | 12:07 |
manchicken_ | toma: If you're right I'll send out a message to the mailing list declaring you as my hero. heh | 12:07 |
toma | oh noes. then everyone is going to ask me for advise ;-0 | 12:08 |
toma | manchicken_: you probably want a klistview anyhow to get all the fancy colors ;-) | 12:11 |
toma | o no, thats handled by the klistviewitems | 12:12 |
toma | ah, bla.. | 12:12 |
manchicken_ | I'm working on legacy code, so I didn't really get much choice. | 12:13 |
nixternal | manchicken_: FREE for the CDs | 12:13 |
nixternal | check out the ShipIt links, but you can't get Edgy, however I can and will put in another order | 12:14 |
manchicken_ | nixternal: I'm gonna try to be at the next chibuntu, so I'll bring you a sixpack to help cover your expenses ;) | 12:14 |
nixternal | a sixer of Green Tea will do just fine :) | 12:15 |
manchicken_ | The Sobe stuff? | 12:15 |
manchicken_ | Or snapple? | 12:15 |
nixternal | it is my new addiction. No the Diet Lipton w/ Citrus | 12:15 |
manchicken | Ooh, a discerning palette. | 12:15 |
nixternal | hehe | 12:15 |
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