| bddebian | crimsun: You aboot? | 12:21 |
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| LaserJock | more content, more content *whip* | 12:21 |
| bddebian | ?? | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | contentless ping | 12:22 |
| bddebian | Yeah, so? :-) | 12:23 |
| geser | bddebian: about bug #76544: are you sure the Ubuntu changes aren't needed anymore? | 12:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76544 in fnfx "[Sync Request] fnfx 0.3-12" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76544 | 12:23 |
| bddebian | crimsun: <content> What's up with beep-media-player? </content> | 12:23 |
| bddebian | geser: No, that should probably be rejected but I think a lot of the changes could/should go away | 12:24 |
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| bddebian | Gah, I hate these where we have strayed from Debian and now it's like what makes sense and what doesn't... | 12:29 |
| crimsun | bddebian: yes? | 12:33 |
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| bddebian | Heya ScottK | 12:34 |
| ScottK | heya | 12:35 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I was just curious what was up with beep-media-player | 12:35 |
| crimsun | bddebian: if you'd like to merge it, feel free (I'm short on time). Note the changes to the image files (default skin). | 12:36 |
| bddebian | yeah, I saw that :) | 12:36 |
| bddebian | Hmm, should we sync/merge a package with 3 RC bugs in Debian? :) | 12:36 |
| geser | persia already did a merge. it only needs review and sponsoring | 12:36 |
| bddebian | geser: Well what are you waiting for? :-) | 12:36 |
| crimsun | well, persia has noted it blocking on maintainer mangling, though I think that's a superfluous blocker. | 12:38 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: fix the bugs :) | 12:38 |
| crimsun | (bug 79065) | 12:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79065 in beep-media-player "merge beep-media-player 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-2 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79065 | 12:38 |
| Toadstool | heya everybody | 12:38 |
| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 12:39 |
| TheMuso | Whats the best way of putting a homepage URL in a package description? | 12:42 |
| TheMuso | As in, at the end, with the homepage keyword? | 12:43 |
| Toadstool | " .\n Homepage: <URL>"? | 12:43 |
| geser | " Homepage: <URL>" (note the two spaces at the begin) | 12:43 |
| TheMuso | ok thanks guys. | 12:44 |
| TheMuso | I thought the long description only needed one space at the end. | 12:44 |
| TheMuso | beginning sorry | 12:44 |
| geser | TheMuso: the second space has a special meaning: no word-wrap | 12:45 |
| TheMuso | ah ok. | 12:45 |
| geser | crimsun: are you going to upload the bmp merge? | 12:45 |
| crimsun | geser: no, I'm not near my keys. | 12:46 |
| geser | ok, I will do it if you don't mind | 12:46 |
| crimsun | that's fine. | 12:46 |
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| geser | bddebian: you could merge fnfx :) | 12:48 |
| bddebian | No thanks | 12:49 |
| bddebian | I've looked at it twice and somerville32 has tried a couple I think | 12:50 |
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| StevenK | Heh, I can try, if you want. | 12:54 |
| bddebian | Go for it | 12:55 |
| coNP | Can someone help me how to fix packaging bugs? | 12:56 |
| bddebian | We can try | 12:56 |
| coNP | Upload an usual debdiff? | 12:56 |
| === Toadstool doesn't fix bugs, he creates them | ||
| bddebian | heh | 12:56 |
| === coNP was sent here from #ubuntu-bugs | ||
| coNP | okay, not sent | 12:57 |
| Toadstool | coNP: prepare a debdiff fixing the bug, attach it to the bug report and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsor (or whatever the name is) or poke a MOTU here :) | 12:59 |
| coNP | Toadstool: as is the usual process, isn't it? | 01:00 |
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| Tonio_ | bddebian ping ? | 01:00 |
| Toadstool | coNP: yep | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian should I really add any copyright of any file of a project in debian/copyright ? | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian that's really ridiculous, unreadable, and unmaintainable | 01:02 |
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| azeem | Tonio_: how many of them are different? | 01:02 |
| bddebian | Tonio_: Well I've had to but I'm now where near an expert on the licensing stuff. I tend to agree with you. :-) | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | azeem dozens........ | 01:02 |
| azeem | yummy | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian and the typo IS FIXED for at least two uploads :) | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian s/from/of not the oposite :) | 01:03 |
| bddebian | Yeah, I noticed | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian I which that guy to revu the kdebase package and have fun in that case | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | about 3000 different copyrights there | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | I agree for the lgpl to be mentionned | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | but that's all | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | I'm not going to mention all copyrights, that's a pure bullshit ! | 01:04 |
| bddebian | Works for me :) | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | or !!! or I'm doing this : | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | grep -d recurse '(C)' ./ >> debian/copyright | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | and have fun to revu | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | I was about to post a flamming reply on revu, but I prefer to flame here, it'll have disapear on tomorrow :) | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | revu stays online, that's dangerous :) | 01:05 |
| bddebian | heh | 01:06 |
| Toadstool | Tonio_: this channel is logged too :) | 01:07 |
| bddebian | Hmm, what about all those libcommons-* merges... | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstool: true, but well I had to empty my brain on that point :) | 01:10 |
| Toadstool | heh | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | some expectations on revu are sometimes ridiculous... | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | how to maintain a package if every copyright on any file has to be mentionned, including headers ? that impossible | 01:10 |
| Toadstool | you're talking about jabbin? | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | I agree concerning the lplg, I missed it and will mention it, but for the copyrights...... | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | imagin the same requirement for kdelibs..... | 01:11 |
| Toadstool | well, technically you're supposed to list them all although I agree it can be a real pita | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstool that's theory, imagin the same for linux sources for example... | 01:12 |
| Toadstool | I know :) | 01:13 |
| geser | Tonio_: are you talking about my comment on jabbin? | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | geser, probably :) | 01:13 |
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| Tonio_ | I agree for everything but the copirights, that drives me nuts, really ! | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | that's not against you, just that's simply impossible to maintain | 01:13 |
| Toadstool | Tonio_: imho, list the main ones, upload and wait for any comments from an archive admin ;) | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstoolthat's what I did | 01:14 |
| Toadstool | oh | 01:14 |
| Toadstool | and it got rejected? | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | when 99% of the files of a tree are the ame and just one little file has a different copyright, I don't mention it | 01:15 |
| geser | I don't meant you have to list each appearance of Copyright | 01:15 |
| Toadstool | well, I guess so, otherwise you wouldn't be pissed off ... | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstool yes, hehe :) | 01:15 |
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| Tonio_ | geser well you even added isolated header files on a full tree | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | for the licence, I'm okay I'll add the lgpl | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | geser the redistribution of iLBC is to be checked too, you are right on that point | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | geser just the copyright thing pissed me off especially since I've been asked in the past to stop proviing them all :) | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | on revu too :) | 01:17 |
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| geser | the other I mentioned have a license that looks like it's free enough (I haven't checked thoroughly) but it's not the GPL | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | hum, if that's licence, I'm with you | 01:20 |
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| Tonio_ | I must say the all tarball is released under the gpl so I didn't checked all files in it, I should have done it though | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | geser okay I'll revu the all sources concerning the licence, since I perfectly agree with you on that point | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | geser maybe I just missunderstood you on that point, sorry for this | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | but the copyrights expectations has already been a long debate so once again drive me nuts :) | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | geser I'll ping you for revu once I made ot clear concerning the licence | 01:22 |
| geser | see for example http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/jabbin-0701261035/jabbin-2.0~beta/src/tools/crash/crash_sigsegv.h | 01:22 |
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| bddebian | ademan: Any luck yet? | 01:23 |
| ademan | actually i haven't tried anything | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | yeah that's not explicitly gpl, but looks like compatible | 01:24 |
| ademan | but the build was successful | 01:24 |
| ademan | only problem is the deb wants to install all of the shared objects into /usr/share/codeblocks/blah blah blah | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | geser I think I missunderstood your point, you were talking about the licence more than the coyrights | 01:24 |
| ademan | and iirc shared objects shouldn't be in /usr/share | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | geser, and you were right, I admit | 01:24 |
| geser | Tonio_: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/jabbin-0701261035/jabbin-2.0~beta/voip/stun.h has a license at the end of the file | 01:25 |
| ademan | is that right? (i picked up a little pdf on the unix file structure, and iirc only platform independant stuff should go in /usr/share) | 01:25 |
| bddebian | ademan: Is there a lib package? | 01:25 |
| ademan | naw, it's all one package, it DEFINITELY needs to get broken up into multiple packages though | 01:26 |
| ademan | like, there's an sdk included | 01:26 |
| ademan | just a bunch of stuff that should be in separate packages | 01:26 |
| bddebian | SO break it up :-) | 01:26 |
| ademan | but most of the libs are essential to the base program, still put them in a codeblocks-lib package? | 01:27 |
| ademan | i will, but as you could tell by me floundering around, i'm not so great at packaging just yet :-) | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | geser, that's clear now, and I must say you are right, I'll have to check those files for their licence | 01:27 |
| bddebian | ademan: Welcome to the club :-) | 01:27 |
| ademan | hehe | 01:28 |
| bddebian | I suppose ideally you would have codeblocks, libcodeblocks, libcodeblocks-dev, and codeblocks-sdk or something but since I haven't seen the package I'm just talking out of my arse | 01:29 |
| ademan | bddebian: even if the libcodeblocks is essential to the codeblocks package? | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | geser, thanks for beeing patient :) I'm tired, I wouldn't have reacted like this 3 or 4 hours ago | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian, he was right hehe :) | 01:31 |
| bddebian | Sure. You can have the codeblocks binary depend on the libcodeblocks binary | 01:31 |
| ademan | yeah, i just didn't know if that was preffered or what | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | okay I'll check the full licence.... why ALL those voip software like this ? same licence issue in wengophone..... | 01:32 |
| ademan | now i just gotta figure out HOW to divide it up into multiple packages :-) | 01:32 |
| ademan | the maintainer wrote the debian dir to generate these packages: codeblocks codeblocks-contrib libcodeblocks libcodeblocks-devel libcodeblocks-dbg but of course he hasn't committed the new debian dir... so i don't get them :-( plus isn't libcodeblocks-dev preffered to devel? | 01:33 |
| coNP | Toadstool: can you have a look at bug 81757 if it is okay? | 01:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81757 in xchat-systray "Duplicate entry in tasklist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81757 | 01:35 |
| ademan | course, i may just ask him for the new debian dir, i dunno | 01:35 |
| ademan | i'd have to fix things up AGAIN, since what he claims builds, doesnt... | 01:36 |
| ademan | i think the problem is he builds with ./configure && make FIRST, so things that AREN't taken care of in debian/rules are actually present on his system | 01:37 |
| Toadstool | coNP: sure | 01:41 |
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| geser | coNP: you should probably use conflict instead of replaces | 01:47 |
| coNP | geser: why? It does not actually conflict. | 01:47 |
| geser | coNP: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces | 01:48 |
| coNP | geser: ty | 01:48 |
| geser | Replaces allows dpkg to move files owned by one package to another | 01:49 |
| geser | you are more interested in xchat-systray getting deinstalled | 01:49 |
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| geser | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-conflicts | 01:50 |
| Toadstool | coNP: what geser said (sorry, I am at work, kinda busy :) | 01:50 |
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| coNP | sorry, my DSL is broken :( | 01:52 |
| coNP | geser: did you get my last message? | 01:52 |
| geser | last I've seen from you: <coNP> geser: ty | 01:53 |
| coNP | geser: so I think replaced is better | 01:53 |
| coNP | because the documentation says "Packages can declare in their control file that they should overwrite files in certain other packages, or completely replace other packages." | 01:53 |
| coNP | Now xchat completly replaces xchat-systray. | 01:54 |
| coNP | But I might be bad | 01:54 |
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| geser | that would be 7.5.2 Replacing whole packages, forcing their removal | 01:55 |
| coNP | Actually then both replaces and conflicts should be added | 01:56 |
| geser | so you would probably need replaces and conflicts | 01:56 |
| coNP | And I think only to xchat, but not to xchat-common | 01:56 |
| geser | yes | 01:57 |
| coNP | but that was okay, I checked | 01:57 |
| coNP | now I should add this new debdiff to the bug? | 01:58 |
| geser | yes | 01:58 |
| Toadstool | ok sick of working, I call it a day, let's go get drunk in LA \o/ | 01:59 |
| Toadstool | have a good weekend everybody | 01:59 |
| coNP | by Toadstool | 01:59 |
| coNP | +e | 01:59 |
| bddebian | Later Toadstool | 02:03 |
| coNP | geser: can you have a look at it again? I think it is quite easy to check, if you want to. However, it is not (very) important at all. | 02:09 |
| geser | looks ok. have you verified that it works as intended? | 02:11 |
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| ScottK | geser: No problem if you don't, but I was curious if you thought you might have time yet for the new package review I mentioned this afternoon? | 02:13 |
| geser | ScottK: ah, forgot. I will look at it in the morning (it's past 2 am here) | 02:15 |
| ScottK | No problem. Thanks. | 02:15 |
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| coNP | geser: I think so, now it does not allow me to install xchat-systray again, and try again. | 02:17 |
| coNP | I wanted to test it again | 02:17 |
| coNP | maybe someone running feisty should do that | 02:17 |
| geser | I could test it in the morning and upload it afterwards (if nobody is faster) | 02:19 |
| bddebian | geser: No one is faster than you :-) | 02:19 |
| coNP | geser: thanks | 02:19 |
| coNP | good night everyone (in timezones, where it is night :)) | 02:21 |
| bddebian | Gnight coNP | 02:21 |
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| bddebian | welshbyte: Fix all the bugs :-) | 02:23 |
| welshbyte | ok, i'll start from bug #1 and work my way up ;) | 02:24 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 02:24 |
| jdong | aah ichthux has taken over bug 1!!!!!! | 02:25 |
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| Liberax | hi any developer here? | 02:25 |
| bddebian | Nope, no developers here. | 02:26 |
| Liberax | anybody with amd 64 and pptp could try this fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/67881 ? | 02:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67881 in network-manager-pptp "Crash while trying to connect to PPTP server" [Undecided,In progress] | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | jdong: it's always somebody. I wish we could kill that bug | 02:31 |
| jdong | lol | 02:31 |
| Liberax | LaserJock: what bug? | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | I should ask raphink about that | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | Liberax: bug #1 of course ;-) | 02:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 02:32 |
| Liberax | :) | 02:33 |
| LaserJock | I'm just annoyed at getting bugmail from it | 02:33 |
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| ScottK | Speaking of fixing bug and that other operating system... I recently fix a python-dns bug, Bug #80360, here and then decided to report it upstream. There I found a few open bugs that have been there for more than two years. At least one of them is Windows only. I am considering doing a patch here to resolve the upstream bugs too. Would it be considered poor form to fix the Windows unique stuff in the same package? | 02:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80360 in python-dns "Crash - Fails to trap socket.error when network is not available" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80360 | 02:34 |
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| crimsun | ScottK: no. | 02:35 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: uneccesarly maybe, but not bad form surely ;-) | 02:35 |
| bddebian | Shirley? I thought his name was Scott? :-) | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | darn, I'd sound so much more intelligent if I could spell better | 02:36 |
| crimsun | we should be concerned about code quality, not what OS is affected. | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: bah | 02:36 |
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| ScottK | OK. Thanks. I thought I'd check before I went to the trouble. Back when I was exclusively using Windows, the fact that Python was cross platform was one of the things that attracted me to it in the first place. | 02:40 |
| LaserJock | I liked it because you didn't have to buy a compiler for it | 02:41 |
| ScottK | I will also confess that the ESR piece on how all the cool geeks used Python influenced me too. | 02:58 |
| bddebian | pfft :-) | 03:00 |
| bddebian | I thought XbuildX revisions were synced automagically? | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | should be | 03:08 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: Care to review libticables2 for me? :-) | 03:20 |
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| bddebian | Ho hum | 03:30 |
| crimsun | keescook: regarding #78339, a debdiff cannot represent the upstream changes in binary form. | 03:40 |
| crimsun | keescook: my practice has always been to provide a debdiff otherwise. | 03:40 |
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| ScottK | Good (I'm guessing it's afternoon for you) afternoon Hobbsee | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hey ScottK :) | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, it's afternoon | 04:17 |
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| Hobbsee | :) | 04:19 |
| === Hobbsee wonders why u-u-s is subscribed to a wiki page... | ||
| Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpToDateAtiNvidiaDrivers | 04:26 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how to list subscriptions on a wiki page | ||
| jdong | Hobbsee: if you defer it to backports... *shakes fist* :D | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: which? | 04:28 |
| jdong | that spec you listed ;-) | 04:28 |
| somerville32 | Mez: Are there plans to backport Exaile? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: i dont know where it's come from - it's just gone to ubuntu-universe-sponsors list | 04:29 |
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| crimsun | eek, pitti's an ftp admin now (or at least doing syncs)? | 04:39 |
| bddebian | Yeah apparently :-) | 04:39 |
| crimsun | looks like a script, actually. | 04:40 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: It requires u-u-s to have a wiki page and more importantly, a profile. | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: true... | 04:52 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: hmm, what did I have a problem with last time | 05:33 |
| bddebian | For what libticables2? | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | sorry | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | was afk and read away message | 05:36 |
| bddebian | The missing pkgconfig file :) | 05:36 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah | 05:37 |
| ScottK | Any else (bddebian excluded) up for reviewing a simple Python package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4194 | 05:42 |
| ScottK | OK. Well if anyone turns up, I'll be here for a bit seeing if I can find a package I'm up to merging. | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Thought you were gonna try fnfx? :-) | 05:48 |
| StevenK | That was me | 05:50 |
| somerville32 | lol | 05:51 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Do you mind if I do endeavour? You did it last time. | 05:52 |
| bddebian | Go for it | 05:52 |
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| StevenK | How 'cott' can be confused with 'teven', I have *no* idea. | 05:52 |
| bddebian | Damnit, did I do it again?? | 05:52 |
| ScottK | me neither, but 90% pluss of the time when is name is gotten wrong it's Steve or some variation of it... | 05:53 |
| === nixternal points out bddebian to LaserJock - HIM TOO! | ||
| nixternal | BOO | 05:53 |
| nixternal | wth | 05:53 |
| === Hobbsee points LaserJock at ScottK | ||
| === nixternal points Hobbsee at Hobbsee | ||
| TheMuso | There is something called tab completion. :) | 05:53 |
| bddebian | Heh, heya nixternal | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | what? | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: [15:42] <ScottK> Any else (bddebian excluded) up for reviewing a simple Python package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4194 | 05:53 |
| nixternal | no, the boo was BOO | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | tabcompletion on irssi kinda sucks | 05:53 |
| StevenK | It does not, you tell lies | 05:54 |
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| LaserJock | oh, yeah, I'm firing up my pbuilders now | 05:54 |
| nixternal | not if you get the silly script to fix the case issue | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | I *love* irssi tabcompletion | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | it's the only one that works well for me | 05:54 |
| === Hobbsee isnt a fan of the "if htere are multiple matching nicks, pick the first one" | ||
| nixternal | LaserJock: I find myself trying to tab complete everything I type now | 05:54 |
| === Hobbsee only likes konvi tab completion | ||
| StevenK | Hobbsee: What do you prefer? | 05:54 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: spoiled by the dropdown? | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yse | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yes | 05:55 |
| === ScottK likes konvi tab completion too. | ||
| nixternal | hehe, that was nice | 05:55 |
| TheMuso | You just make sure you type the first four or so characters. | 05:55 |
| StevenK | Hah, I don't think irssi can do that. | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | I hate dropdowns | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | so annoying | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | I don't want to have to arrow or click | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | I just want to hit tab darnit | 05:55 |
| nixternal | irssi can't do the drop down, but after a couple of tabs you will eventually make it, unless of course you get bitten by someone with funky case | 05:55 |
| TheMuso | I dislike the mouse. | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | Stupidest computer invention ever. | 05:56 |
| ScottK | Well to get ScottK and StevenK correct one only needs to type two characters... That appears to be difficult for some. | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | Irssi usually fixes up the case. | 05:56 |
| === ScottK goes and merges... | ||
| === StevenK stops reading irssi stuff on changing completion behaviour. | ||
| Hobbsee | StevenK: the other sane option would just be to complete to wherever the next character is, and wait for you to type hte next one | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: uploaded espeak | 05:57 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Why? The shell does what irssi does. | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: does it? | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:57 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Thanks. | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | well, kinda | 05:58 |
| TheMuso | Gotta love that list of changes I had to do to the damn thing. | 05:58 |
| StevenK | pb <tab> -> pbuilder <tab again> lists pbuilder pbuilder-upgrade | 05:58 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: You did review the package I hope. | 05:59 |
| ScottK | If it turns out that no Ubuntu specific changes are required any more, do I just go file a bug that requests a synch vice a merge? | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yeah. appears to build, cant see anything crazy. | 05:59 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Righto. | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: and you'll into trouble yourself if you broke it :P | 06:00 |
| StevenK | Heh, "appears to build" | 06:00 |
| StevenK | The debian/rules just cats a build log, but doesn't do anything | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:00 |
| StevenK | That'd be cool. :-P | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: no, it runs a build log, but rm -rf's / | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: package name is beryl :P | 06:01 |
| StevenK | And if you build packages as real root, you deserve what you get. | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 06:01 |
| TheMuso | The only thing I was slightly worried about, is that upstream moved the location of a header file in libespeak-dev. I just want to make sure I covered all my bases. I am pretty sure I did. | 06:01 |
| TheMuso | Gotta love upstream moving things around, and you have to find out for yourself. | 06:02 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Try ALSA some time. | 06:02 |
| === StevenK twitches | ||
| TheMuso | StevenK: lol | 06:03 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: They moved entire drivers around, and release at least once without updating the Makefiles | 06:03 |
| TheMuso | eeeew | 06:03 |
| StevenK | released, even | 06:03 |
| StevenK | "No wonder it doesn't build, the whole directory doesn't exist. .... Oh wait a moment..." | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | darn bddebian already acked it | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | I hate being number 2 ;-) | 06:05 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Well as I may have told you, I am trying to get the espeak author to separate voice data compilation routines out of a graphical app, and include them in the espeak source package, so the voice data can actually be built on the fly when the package gets built. | 06:05 |
| TheMuso | Trouble is, they are tied to damn wx data types. | 06:06 |
| StevenK | Ewwww | 06:06 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Bah, you're #1 baby :-) | 06:06 |
| ScottK | Anyone? If Ubuntu specific changes are no longer required for a package on the merge list do I file a bug requesting a synch instead? | 06:06 |
| bddebian | ScottK: yes | 06:06 |
| StevenK | Sync, and yes | 06:06 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: just be sure that it builds | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Yep. | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | I literally had to ship two copies of the voice data files in the orig tarball, for little and big endian architectures. | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | I'd rather not have to do that. | 06:07 |
| StevenK | At least it doesn't hook to perl datatypes | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | Well, for ppc anyway | 06:07 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Thanks. | 06:07 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: In Perl, any variable translates to one of two structs, where one of the members is "magic" that is a function pointer | 06:08 |
| StevenK | And people wonder why I'm insane. It's all Perl's fault. | 06:09 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: riiight | 06:10 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Is that in reference to all what I just said? :-) | 06:11 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: yeah | 06:11 |
| TheMuso | You know,not having a maintainer for any particular universe package is a good idea, but someone who is dedicated to maintaining a package is a good thing, as they get to know the package source, and can work with upstream to fix bugs. | 06:14 |
| TheMuso | case in point, me and espeak. | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: definetly true | 06:15 |
| === ScottK is discovering it takes a while to build the binary for endeavour... | ||
| Hobbsee | uh, yeah | 06:19 |
| ScottK | Endeavour builds then. Here's the bug #81795: | 06:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81795 in endeavour "endeavour: sync new Debian version (2.7.5-1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81795 | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | Is the motu council happening yet/ | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | just waiting on TB | 06:20 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 06:20 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: Really? The MOTU Council need to be diagnosed with it? | 06:21 |
| === StevenK runs away | ||
| TheMuso | StevenK: rofl | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | :p | 06:21 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Have you finished (either completed or as much, if any as you have time for) looking at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4194? If you have, I'm going to go to bed (it's getting late here). | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | I just left my comment | 06:24 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 06:24 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I gather you think it should be optional (vice extra)? I debated that when I did it. | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | optional is normal | 06:26 |
| ScottK | OK. | 06:26 |
| ScottK | Fixing now... | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | extra is for something the conflicts with the packages in the other Priorities | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | *that | 06:27 |
| ScottK | OK. | 06:27 |
| ScottK | It depends on a package that's in extra. | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | I don't think that should matter | 06:28 |
| ScottK | OK. | 06:28 |
| === ScottK is thinking that one's probably wrong too. | ||
| LaserJock | oh | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | "Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values " | 06:29 |
| ScottK | I did that one too. | 06:29 |
| ScottK | That one exists in Debian. I'll go double check what the last Debian package did and match that. | 06:29 |
| ScottK | The package from Debian is in extra, so I think I'm stuck with that. | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:31 |
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| ScottK | LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4201 is ready for another look if you would... | 06:37 |
| ScottK | bddebian: How about I take a shot at merging Courier? | 06:52 |
| bddebian | Didn't I already do that? | 06:53 |
| bddebian | Or is it an updated one? | 06:53 |
| ScottK | It's an updated one. You did it last. | 06:54 |
| ScottK | Looks like all of the changes have to stay. | 06:54 |
| bddebian | Sure | 06:55 |
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| bddebian | If someone wants to look at tamil-gtk2im.. If you know shell/POSIX stuff it should be pretty easy. For some reason in debian/rules it does sh compile-gtk2im.sh. Inside compile-gtk2im.sh it does sh libtool .... For some reason dash doesn't like it. | 06:57 |
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| ScottK | bddebian: Just about done with courier. If you wouldn't mind relooking at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4201?, I'd appreciate it. | 07:08 |
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| bddebian | I'll take a look tomorrow. I have GOT to get to bed. | 07:08 |
| ScottK | OK. | 07:08 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 07:08 |
| bddebian | NP | 07:09 |
| bddebian | Gnight folks | 07:09 |
| LaserJock | arggg | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | I was just going to tell him to upload his package | 07:11 |
| somerville32 | crimsun, can you upload https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mousepad/+bug/56161 ? Please :) | 07:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56161 in mousepad "Segfault when saving files on AMD64" [Medium,In progress] | 07:14 |
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| ScottK | LaserJock: Thanks for taking another look and advocating. | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: np | 07:18 |
| crimsun | somerville32: uploaded. | 07:19 |
| somerville32 | ty :) | 07:20 |
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| ScottK | courier is going to take a while to build. I think I'm going to bed... | 07:20 |
| ScottK | Good night everyone. | 07:21 |
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| ademan | ah, i'm back | 08:46 |
| ademan | does http://www.codeblocks.org work for you guys? | 08:50 |
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| ademan | course as soon as i get back LaserJock is gone :-p | 09:08 |
| Simon80 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4203 | 09:08 |
| Simon80 | review me :) | 09:08 |
| Simon80 | I'm going to bed | 09:08 |
| Simon80 | please and thank you | 09:11 |
| ademan | Simon80: wish i could but i suck haha | 09:13 |
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| ademan | can anyone tell me why my package wants to install it's libs to /usr/share/codeblocks/* ? | 09:32 |
| ademan | and more importantly, where should it go (/usr/lib/codeblocks/* ?) and what file controls this? | 09:32 |
| afflux | ademan: if I'm not wrong, libs should go to /usr/lib. You can control this by "make install"ing them to debian/<packagename>/usr/lib | 09:45 |
| ademan | yeah but i don't see anything like that in debian/rules or makefile.am | 09:46 |
| lucas | Adri2000: on alioth, project name is pkg-multidistrotools | 09:52 |
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| ademan | how might i change wherre it installs to? | 10:08 |
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| imbrandon | hrm | 10:13 |
| imbrandon | crimsun / ajmitch , do you know how a menu like this would be created ( it launches automaticly on ssh login ) http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/ssh-menu.png | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | i have looked in the ~/.bash* and seen nothing that starts it , or even what it is ( e.g. bash script or a actual program etc ) | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | but i wanna make something like it myself | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | any clues? | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | ( or anyone ^^ ) | 10:23 |
| coNP | imbrandon: maybe it is the login shell? | 10:24 |
| imbrandon | zomg, your right | 10:24 |
| imbrandon | thanks | 10:24 |
| imbrandon | haha | 10:24 |
| imbrandon | i should have thought of that | 10:25 |
| coNP | yw :) | 10:25 |
| Amaranth | ooh, shiny | 10:29 |
| coNP | hey, MOTUs, bug 2415 seems to be fixed | 10:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2415 in openbox "windows do not appear in gnome-panel workspace switcher" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2415 | 10:35 |
| coNP | however it is assigned to MOTU, may I switch it to fix released? | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | where did you test it coNP | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | e.g. on feisty or edgy ? | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | and if on edgy i would say yes, fix released | 10:37 |
| coNP | imbrandon: I guess on dapper, edgy, feisty | 10:37 |
| coNP | I use openbox | 10:37 |
| coNP | on all of these | 10:37 |
| coNP | and no problems with gnome-panel | 10:38 |
| coNP | okay, imbrandon I will make it fixed, if you don't mind | 10:39 |
| coNP | should I assign it to nobody? | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | no | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | never assign a bug to anyone | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | but yes mark it fixed if you wish or ask the reporter to confirm it was fixed now | 10:40 |
| coNP | imbrandon: so leave it assigned to MOTU? | 10:42 |
| imbrandon | yes, you should never change the assignment of a bug if you are not the person thats doing it, e.g. unless you are assigning a bug to your self you never never never change that fienld | 10:43 |
| imbrandon | field* | 10:43 |
| coNP | okay, imbrandon | 10:43 |
| coNP | I understand | 10:43 |
| coNP | now, finally :) | 10:43 |
| imbrandon | heh | 10:43 |
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| afflux | review me please :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4200 -- thank you | 11:10 |
| Amaranth | coNP: The problem was on amd64 | 11:12 |
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| Amaranth | coNP: you say it's fixed on x86, that's not the bug :) | 11:12 |
| coNP | Amaranth: oh. My mistake. | 11:15 |
| coNP | Amaranth: isn there a way to assign this bug to amd64 build (and not to the source package)? | 11:18 |
| Amaranth | no | 11:19 |
| Amaranth | it's a bug in the source package | 11:19 |
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| neutrinomas1 | can somebody please take a look at bug 57875 ? It seems to affect a lot of people ... (it's not an issue for me and I'd fix it myself if I could ) | 12:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57875 in azureus "Azureus does not start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57875 | 12:06 |
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| AnAnt | hello | 12:48 |
| AnAnt | may someone remove the softbeep package that I just uploaded | 12:48 |
| AnAnt | I uploaded it by mistake to REVU | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: to revu? | 12:48 |
| === Hobbsee will | ||
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: thanks | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: hasnt hit revu yet - how many min ago did you upload? | 12:51 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: few secs | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | ah, that's why | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | cypher1: are you cypherbios too? | 12:55 |
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| geser | coNP: I just wanted to your replaces/conflicts for xchat-systray | 02:03 |
| geser | but I can't get it installed as xchat-systray is gone in feisty | 02:03 |
| coNP | geser: okay | 02:05 |
| coNP | geser: however, I am not sure, that this will clean old xchat-systray packages making a dist-upgrade | 02:06 |
| geser | we still need it for the upgrade | 02:06 |
| geser | I'm considering to upload it but I can't test it | 02:06 |
| coNP | geser: okay I see, I guess noone can | 02:07 |
| coNP | geser: except someone using e.g. herd2 | 02:07 |
| coNP | with no updates since | 02:07 |
| geser | fortunately LP has still the old debs | 02:08 |
| coNP | nice :) | 02:08 |
| geser | coNP: here are my test results: | 02:11 |
| geser | dpkg: considering removing xchat-systray in favour of xchat ... | 02:11 |
| geser | dpkg: yes, will remove xchat-systray in favour of xchat. | 02:11 |
| geser | ic xchat-systray 2.4.5-6ubuntu1 xchat systray notification icon | 02:11 |
| geser | only the config-files are left | 02:11 |
| coNP | geser: what do you think? Is it right? | 02:11 |
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| coNP | Did you --purge-d them? Or is it supposed to to do? | 02:12 |
| geser | I don't know but I'd say it's ok | 02:12 |
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| coNP | thanks geser | 02:26 |
| geser | np | 02:27 |
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| co-NP | geser: can you take a look at bug 45171? It is not urgent, of course. | 02:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 45171 in openbox "openbox cannot catch gnome-screenshot shortcut" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45171 | 02:37 |
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| siretart | when changing the source of an yet unmodified debian package in ubuntu, are we supposed to change the maintainer field now? | 02:45 |
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| ScottK | Good morning. | 03:04 |
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| ScottK | Last night I started working on merging courier. I'm afraid I may have bitten off more than I can chew at this point. I'd appreciate it is someone experienced in doing merges would look at the list of errors lintian threw when I built the binary: http://pastecode.com/12715 - I'm guessing that I need to fix the missing build dependency, but I have no idea which, if any of the warnings would need to be fixed as part of the | 03:19 |
| ScottK | Note that with the missing build-dep installed the package appears to have built successfully. | 03:19 |
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| Liberax | anybody with pptp network manager on an ubuntu 64bit? | 03:51 |
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| ScottK | Adri2000: Thanks for the kick in the head about Bug #81795 - I think I stayed up to late last night trying to do merges. It's fixed now. | 03:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81795 in endeavour "endeavour: merge (2.7.5-1ubuntu1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81795 | 03:57 |
| Adri2000 | :) | 03:58 |
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| pochu | hi guys! | 04:48 |
| pochu | I've a problem while building a package | 04:48 |
| pochu | the package builds fine, but it says this: | 04:48 |
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| pochu | 04:49 | |
| pochu | dh_gencontrol -ptracker | 04:49 |
| pochu | dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${misc:Depends} | 04:49 |
| pochu | dh_md5sums -ptracker | 04:49 |
| pochu | dh_builddeb -ptracker | 04:49 |
| pochu | dpkg-deb: construyendo el paquete `tracker' en `../tracker_0.5.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'. | 04:49 |
| pochu | 04:49 | |
| pochu | what do you think about that? | 04:49 |
| pochu | unknow substitution variable... | 04:49 |
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| coNP | hi phanatic | 04:50 |
| phanatic | hey coNP | 04:50 |
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| coNP | Hey! Any sponsors up to fix bug 45171? | 05:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 45171 in openbox "openbox cannot catch gnome-screenshot shortcut" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45171 | 05:16 |
| crimsun | I see you're volunteering. | 05:16 |
| ScottK | Heh | 05:16 |
| coNP | crimsun: I did what I could do. Cannot go any further without the blessing of a MOTU | 05:16 |
| coNP | I need the MOTU power now :) | 05:17 |
| ScottK | CoNP: Until I looked at the bug, I didn't realize you'd already done a patch and wanted someone to apply it. I thought you were looking for someone else to develop the fix. | 05:18 |
| coNP | ScottK: Sorry, I was not clear enough, for sure. | 05:19 |
| ScottK | At this point I'd just sit back and wait. IME they usually get around to applying such patches reasonably quickly. | 05:21 |
| ScottK | Maybe find a MOTU to bug if it's not applied tomorrow. | 05:21 |
| coNP | Okay, thanks. | 05:23 |
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| givre | Hello all | 05:28 |
| ScottK | Hello | 05:28 |
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| givre | how can i get a new version of a package in main. Should i use the Sponsorship Process or should i go to REVU ? | 05:29 |
| givre | the package in question is fuse | 05:29 |
| givre | version in debian is 2.5.3 but latest version is 2.6.1 | 05:29 |
| crimsun | this question has arisen before, and I asked the person to check the dependencies. | 05:29 |
| crimsun | there was no response. | 05:30 |
| givre | crimsun: dependencies of 2.6.1 are the same of 2.5.3 | 05:31 |
| crimsun | does it integrate with fuse's rdeps? | 05:31 |
| givre | of course | 05:32 |
| givre | i didn't fully test, but i don't see why there should be a problem | 05:32 |
| crimsun | it's a main package; regression testing is ... encouraged. | 05:32 |
| jdong | is it backwards-compatible with existing fuse stuff? | 05:33 |
| jdong | and you mean fuse-utils? | 05:33 |
| jdong | and libfuse2... | 05:33 |
| jdong | the userspace stuff.... | 05:33 |
| givre | right | 05:33 |
| givre | 2.6 is backwards-compatible with 2.5 | 05:35 |
| givre | i can ask Miklos to be sure, but all virtual fs i use works with 2.5 & 2.6 | 05:37 |
| crimsun | givre: although a few of us have the ability to update it, none of us are going to update it without seeing positive testimony and the most recent uploader's blessing | 05:37 |
| crimsun | givre: in this case, ask fabbione if he considers an update to 2.6.1 a priority | 05:38 |
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| givre | crimsun: right | 05:39 |
| givre | crimsun: ok, so i guess what i have to do is : | 05:41 |
| givre | - put my package in revu | 05:41 |
| givre | - explain why it should be update | 05:41 |
| givre | - ask fabbione to have a look at it | 05:41 |
| givre | thanks crimsun | 05:42 |
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| ScottK | crimsun: Have you got a moment to help me with a merge problem? | 05:58 |
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| ScottK | OK. I guess he's really away... Anyone? How much packaging fixing is one expected to do when merging? My merge of courier builds, but lintian is extremely whiny: http://pastecode.com/12719 Should I just leave this package for someone more experienced? | 06:07 |
| pirast | crimsun, moved | 06:08 |
| gnomefreak | guys crimsun is away atm please see /whois crimsun for more details | 06:10 |
| pirast | /whois crimsun | 06:10 |
| pirast | ugh | 06:10 |
| pirast | gnomefreak. thanks | 06:10 |
| gnomefreak | yw | 06:10 |
| geser | ScottK: the more you differ from Debian the more has to be merged the next time, so only fix real problems | 06:18 |
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| ScottK | geser: Any thoughts on if any of those problems - http://pastecode.com/12719 - qualify as real? | 06:19 |
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| geser | ScottK: I don't know any details about this warnings | 06:35 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks for looking. | 06:36 |
| crimsun | pirast: which? | 07:01 |
| pirast | crimsun, dos one for vlc 0.8.6a.. | 07:02 |
| pirast | works against my patched vlc | 07:02 |
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| crimsun | we need to get http://sam.zoy.org/zzuf/ into universe. | 07:08 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: I'm a little sketchy on what exactly it does | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: how does adding random bits to user input help find bugs/security holes? | 07:17 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: it helps identify which functions need to have input validation fixed. | 07:19 |
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| ScottK | LaserJock: I'm try to merge courier and am getting a huge number of lintian warnings when I build the binary. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look and give me some advice of which of those issues are significant enough that I should add an Ubuntu change for it - http://pastecode.com/12719 | 07:21 |
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| siretart | crimsun: zzuf is on its way to debian. we can sync it from there then | 07:27 |
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| LaserJock | ScottK: holy cow | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | that is a lot | 07:31 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | they are all Warnings though | 07:31 |
| ScottK | Yes. I fixed the errors. | 07:31 |
| ScottK | So do I say builds with no errors and call it good enough or do I need to fix some of that stuff? | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | well, we try to minimize divergence | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | you should look for Debian bugs for those | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | a compat of 2 and standards version of 3.5 sounds like it's not even being maintained | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | but that hardly seems possible, courier is a very common app | 07:34 |
| ScottK | Yes. And the Debian update is a Debian only change, so someone is maintaining it. | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | well, I personally leave Debian stuff alone unless I really know what I'm doing | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | perhaps couriers build system doesn't behave nicely or something | 07:35 |
| ScottK | A couple of the issues have bugs, including one filed by siretart over a year ago... | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | geeze, the BTS page looks aweful | 07:37 |
| enyc | hrrm debian always seem to have phun getting rid of RC bugs... | 07:37 |
| enyc | people keep adding more rc bugs as fast as they are going away lol | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | 143 bugs, 1 Fixed or Pending | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | 15 patches in BTS | 07:38 |
| LaserJock | he hd 12 uploads in 2006 and still all that? | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | *had | 07:39 |
| ScottK | Any suggestions? | 07:41 |
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| LaserJock | ScottK: minimize divergence, try to poke upstream | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | that's about all I've got | 07:44 |
| ScottK | OK. I think I'll go with "builds with no errors and call it good enough" and provide a patch for the merge. Then see about bugs for upstream. Hopefully enough courier users will try it out before Feisty gets released to uncover any serious excitement... | 07:45 |
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| ademan | my package wants to install libraries to /usr/share/codeblocks/*, it should be /usr/lib/codeblocks/* where might i change this? | 07:58 |
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| ScottK | ademan: I think you want to look at man dh_install. | 08:13 |
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| geser | ademan: check the Makefile | 08:21 |
| tsmithe | could someone do a quick revu for me? | 08:26 |
| ademan | geser: i'll paste Makefile.am? | 08:31 |
| ademan | or do i want Makefile.in? | 08:31 |
| ademan | hrm, there is no Makefile.in | 08:32 |
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| ScottK | Howdy bddebian | 08:32 |
| ademan | http://rafb.net/p/mMjkEm70.html i don't see anything that would affect that do you? | 08:33 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 08:33 |
| bddebian | Hi ScottK | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 08:33 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Congrats on your package... | 08:33 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 08:33 |
| bddebian | ScottK: What package is that? | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: did you read your REVU emails yet? | 08:34 |
| ScottK | bddebian: The lib whatever it was you've been messing with. | 08:34 |
| geser | ademan: me neither | 08:34 |
| ScottK | Apparently not. | 08:34 |
| ademan | wanna see debian/rules? | 08:35 |
| ScottK | bddebian: After you read your REVU e-mail, would you please relook at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4201? It's now looking for you to be 2nd advocate. | 08:35 |
| bddebian | The only one I saw was aptoncd | 08:35 |
| ademan | http://rafb.net/p/4Bw55Y47.html i don't see where it might happen here either | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I acked libticables and told you to upload it ;-) | 08:35 |
| ademan | man dh_install seemed to suggest there should be a debian/package.install but i didn't see one | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: about 2 minutes after you left last night | 08:36 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Ah cool thanks. Now I can do tilp2 :) | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | ademan: do you have an install? | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | debian/install I mean | 08:37 |
| ScottK | bddebian: After you catch up on my stuff, OK? | 08:37 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Sure :-) | 08:37 |
| ademan | LaserJock: nope | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | ademan: well, it get's the dir for somewhere, grep for "share" | 08:38 |
| ademan | in rules? or what? | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing that it's setting the lib dir the same as data dir | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | no, the source | 08:38 |
| geser | ademan: check the defaults where it wants to install | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | as long as debian/rules isn't actually moving those files it's determined by the Makefile | 08:39 |
| ademan | i posted the makefile above though, or are there more makefiles in src? | 08:39 |
| geser | a good start would be the Makefile (the install target) | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | ademan: grep it though, trying to find anything in the whole Makefile is difficult | 08:40 |
| geser | ademan: you need the one created by automake | 08:40 |
| ademan | LaserJock: how would i grep file contents? (sorry) | 08:40 |
| ademan | geser: oh, so no Makefile.am? | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | grep src * | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | ademan: no | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | look at configure, etc. | 08:41 |
| tsmithe | anyone? anyone at all? (revu'age, please) | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | just grep the whole darn thing | 08:41 |
| coNP | tsmithe: you need a MOTU, don't you? | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | ademan: grep share * , my bad | 08:41 |
| ademan | hrm, well it seems to clean up Makefile(s) during clean in rules | 08:42 |
| tsmithe | coNP, yup | 08:42 |
| tsmithe | :) | 08:42 |
| ademan | don't you think? because there definitely aren't any Makefile(s) laying around | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | ademan: you're looking for things like PREFIX or DESTDIR or LIBDIR | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | ademan: I said grep * | 08:43 |
| ademan | k | 08:43 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: Which package? | 08:43 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, thanks; you've done it already ;) | 08:43 |
| ademan | i got a bunch of cbp and bat files, aren't those windows specific? | 08:44 |
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| bddebian | ademan: Did you say that there are configure.am files? | 08:45 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Did you upload it? | 08:46 |
| ademan | none, did you mean Makefile.am? definitely no configure.am | 08:46 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Not yet | 08:47 |
| ademan | no configure.in either | 08:47 |
| bddebian | ademan: There is a Makefile.am? | 08:47 |
| ScottK | bddebian: OK. I like the yet. I'll be patient. | 08:47 |
| ademan | there's a lot of them, but none contain "share" apparently | 08:48 |
| ademan | "grep share * | grep -i Makefile.am" would get me that no? | 08:48 |
| bddebian | ademan: Have you run autoreconf -f -i? | 08:50 |
| ademan | in rules or just straight up? i've done neither though | 08:50 |
| ademan | unless its in rules and i missed it | 08:50 |
| ademan | it's not in rules for sure | 08:50 |
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| bddebian | No I mean from the source dir. Do you have your files posted somewhere? | 08:53 |
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| ademan | bddebian: no, how could/should i? | 08:55 |
| ademan | i could upload the dir to my webserver, would that work? | 08:55 |
| bddebian | Have you gotten it to create the .dsc and .diff.gz? | 08:56 |
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| ademan | yep | 08:57 |
| ademan | i've build the entire package | 08:57 |
| ademan | i've got a deb sitting around | 08:57 |
| ademan | but lintian errored all over my face | 08:58 |
| ademan | thats how i found out about the /usr/share libraries | 08:58 |
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| ScottK | bddebian: Thanks. | 09:10 |
| ScottK | Laserjock: Are you up for another review while I'm wrestling with the courier merge patch? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4179 | 09:11 |
| bddebian | ademan: Just post the .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc somewhere | 09:13 |
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| ScottK | hey bddebian: Thanks again. | 09:31 |
| bddebian | NP | 09:31 |
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| Simon80 | hey, bddebian, sorry, but can you rereview my package? I added some modifications from Gentoo to add support to the MX300 and MX518, and I changed the description slightly | 09:47 |
| bddebian | From Gentoo? Why? :-) | 09:49 |
| Simon80 | lol | 09:49 |
| Simon80 | yes? no? | 09:49 |
| Simon80 | :) | 09:49 |
| bddebian | Which package? | 09:50 |
| ScottK | bddebian: It's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4203 | 09:52 |
| ScottK | Simon80: Don't advocate your own packages. MOTUs are the one that are supposed to do that. | 09:52 |
| Simon80 | hehe, I can delete that | 09:53 |
| Simon80 | my logic was that if it were wrong, the system wouldn't let it happen :) | 09:53 |
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| ScottK | In the system it doesn't matter, it just makes it harder for a MOTU to decide if the package is ready for upload, AFAICT. | 09:54 |
| Simon80 | oh | 09:54 |
| ScottK | OTOH, maybe it annoys them and they review my package instead, so wait, go ahead and do that ;-) | 09:55 |
| ademan | bddebian: alright will do | 09:56 |
| bddebian | ScottK: hehe | 09:58 |
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| pirast | Nafallo, ping | 10:00 |
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| ScottK | I've taken merging courier as far as I can go. bddebian: Since you merged it last time, you might want to have a look. Bug #81799. | 10:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81799 in courier "Courier version courier_0.53.3-3ubuntu1 requires merge" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81799 | 10:05 |
| Simon80 | anyone else available for review? | 10:05 |
| Simon80 | bddebian: thanks, btw | 10:06 |
| bddebian | Simon80: NP | 10:06 |
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| luckyone | hello Masters of the universe | 10:07 |
| bddebian | Hello luckyone | 10:07 |
| luckyone | does anyone know of any problems with sane or libsane in 32-bit edgy? | 10:08 |
| luckyone | I am having this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299347&page=2 | 10:08 |
| luckyone | and, I have no clue how to debug it | 10:08 |
| Adri2000 | Simon80: why do you use this hack in debian/rules to install the man page? | 10:10 |
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| bddebian | luckyone: libsane is a main package | 10:13 |
| ademan | bddebian: i can't get into my web host for some reason, any reccomendations? | 10:13 |
| Simon80 | Adri2000: I don't know a better way to do it | 10:13 |
| luckyone | so, ubuntu main channel would be where I need to get help | 10:14 |
| luckyone | ok, thank you MOTU | 10:14 |
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| luckyone | keep up the great work | 10:14 |
| Adri2000 | Simon80: DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_logitech-applet := debian/logitech_applet.1 | 10:14 |
| Simon80 | I'll try that now | 10:18 |
| Adri2000 | Simon80: also, 0.4test1 means there will be 0.4test2 ... and finally the final stable 0.4? | 10:25 |
| Simon80 | Adri2000:no maintainer | 10:26 |
| Adri2000 | :-/ | 10:26 |
| Simon80 | so, yes, but no | 10:26 |
| Simon80 | it's ok, there's another package that has maintainers, but I'll package it for feisty+1 | 10:26 |
| Adri2000 | if yes, version should be 0.4~test1 | 10:26 |
| Simon80 | ah | 10:27 |
| Simon80 | I can do that | 10:27 |
| Simon80 | see, the manpage hack, I totally blame lack of docs | 10:28 |
| Simon80 | it's frustrating, really | 10:29 |
| Adri2000 | grep /usr/share/cdbs/, all the doc is there | 10:29 |
| Simon80 | $ grep manpage /usr/share/cdbs/ -ri | 10:29 |
| Simon80 | /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk: dh_installman -p$(cdbs_curpkg) $(DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_$(cdbs_curpkg)) | 10:29 |
| Simon80 | that's surprisingly the fastest documentation ever, if you happen to grep for the right thing | 10:30 |
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| Simon80 | lintian's complaining about my version | 10:32 |
| Simon80 | bad-version-number 0.4~test1-0ubuntu1 | 10:32 |
| Simon80 | I don't think that's the first time though | 10:33 |
| bddebian | ademan: Upload it to REVU, we can look at it there if you want | 10:33 |
| Simon80 | done | 10:33 |
| Adri2000 | Simon80: you are using edgy? | 10:33 |
| Simon80 | yeah | 10:33 |
| Adri2000 | that's why | 10:34 |
| Simon80 | oh, you weren't talking to me, bddebian, lol | 10:34 |
| Adri2000 | your lintian is too old | 10:34 |
| Simon80 | yep | 10:34 |
| Simon80 | I figured | 10:34 |
| Simon80 | k, I just have to wait for revu to update | 10:34 |
| ScottK | Simon80: You might want to make a Feisty chroot to work in - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 10:35 |
| Simon80 | maybe | 10:35 |
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| Simon80 | I'll look into it for feisty+1 | 10:35 |
| Simon80 | cause I'm only packaging new apps | 10:36 |
| Simon80 | and the deadline is whenever it is, like, right now :) | 10:36 |
| Simon80 | for upstream freeze | 10:36 |
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| Simon80 | ok, bddebian, Adri2000: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4207 | 11:05 |
| Simon80 | thanks | 11:05 |
| Simon80 | errr, I should delete the hack instead of commenting it out :( | 11:05 |
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| Simon80 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4208 | 11:09 |
| Simon80 | last one! | 11:09 |
| Simon80 | lol | 11:09 |
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| pirast | could anyone who is in ubuntu-qa approve the nominations in bug 76094? | 11:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76094 in tor "Tor 0.1.1.26 fixes HttpProxyAuthenticator privacy flaw" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76094 | 11:22 |
| pirast | ,please ;-) | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | pirast: I'm not sure who can approve nominations | 11:24 |
| Adri2000 | core-devs | 11:25 |
| pirast | mhm | 11:25 |
| Adri2000 | ubuntu{qa,dev} can't | 11:25 |
| pirast | i though that all people who are in ubuntu-qa can | 11:25 |
| Adri2000 | motu-sru neither | 11:25 |
| pirast | :-( | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | I can't | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | and I'm ubuntu-dev | 11:26 |
| pirast | because the security bug should be nominated for edgy, dapper and breezy.. | 11:26 |
| pirast | thanks anyway.. ill ask in ubuntu-devel | 11:26 |
| somerville32 | pirast: For security issues, see pitti | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | it shouldn't have a Feisty nomination though I shouldn't think | 11:26 |
| keescook | pirast: got it, one sec | 11:26 |
| pirast | keescook, thanks.. | 11:27 |
| keescook | no problem! thanks for tracking the problem. :) | 11:28 |
| pirast | keescook, new mail at security-review ;-) | 11:28 |
| keescook | pirast: hehe okay, I'll check it out | 11:28 |
| pirast | it somehow does not really makes sense to fix universe security bugs in breezy, does it? | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | pirast: btw, I think in the future more people will be able to accept nominations (they might allow anybody to nominate in the future) | 11:29 |
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| LaserJock | pirast: why not? | 11:29 |
| pirast | LaserJock, they already had I think.. | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | sorry, I mean you wouldn't have to get them accepted | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | people could just set a target release | 11:30 |
| pirast | LaserJock, that was possible some time ago | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | yes | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | and they are thinking of bringing it back | 11:30 |
| pirast | ah okay.. | 11:31 |
| keescook | pirast: if it's easy, go for it, but I tend to recommend focusing on LTS and current stable. | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | not sure quite yet | 11:31 |
| pirast | sorry, somewhat tired | 11:31 |
| pirast | LaserJock, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/721/results.. It would be nice if LTS + Edgy universe had less bugs first.. And we should concentrate on that first, I think | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | well sure, but there's no inherent reason to not fix something in Breezy | 11:32 |
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| LaserJock | pirast: well, that vote is also very inaccurate | 11:32 |
| pirast | yeah.. there are probably lots of ubuntu fans which want to have the latest and greatest.. | 11:33 |
| pirast | see how many feisty users there are ;-) | 11:33 |
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| LaserJock | pirast: that poll only shows 154 Feisty users ;-) | 11:36 |
| pirast | LaserJock, but that are 14% of all voters :-P | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | ah, but that's where it get's sticky | 11:37 |
| pirast | yeah.. | 11:38 |
| pirast | you're right | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | lies, damn lies, and statistics ;-) | 11:38 |
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| gouki | I'm having trouble deciding which 'section' I should enter. Any links to help me out? | 11:44 |
| gouki | Sorry, I'm creating a package from scratch. | 11:45 |
| Adri2000 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ | 11:45 |
| gouki | Adri2000: Thank you. | 11:45 |
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| Simon80 | so, can any two MOTUs review my package again? | 11:49 |
| Simon80 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4208 | 11:49 |
| Adri2000 | Simon80: are you sure that DEB_INSTALL_CHANGELOGS_ALL := ChangeLog is needed? | 11:50 |
| Simon80 | uh | 11:51 |
| Simon80 | not sure actually | 11:51 |
| Simon80 | thanks, dh_make :) | 11:51 |
| Simon80 | well, without it, the changelog probably wouldn't get into the docs | 11:52 |
| Simon80 | so I'm going to say yes | 11:52 |
| Adri2000 | have you actually tried without it? | 11:52 |
| Simon80 | I'll try now | 11:53 |
| Simon80 | seems to work without it | 11:54 |
| Simon80 | new upload? | 11:55 |
| Adri2000 | wait, I'm checking if I have not missed anything | 11:56 |
| Adri2000 | looks fine | 12:00 |
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| pirast | if now a package gets updated in debian, will it arrive in feisty? | 12:10 |
| Adri2000 | not automatically | 12:11 |
| Adri2000 | !seen Fujitsu | 12:11 |
| ubotu | I last saw Fujitsu (n=root@ubuntu/member/fujitsu) 1d 18h 41m 50s ago, quiting: "leaving" | 12:11 |
| Adri2000 | uhuh, "root", that's bad :) | 12:12 |
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