[01:18] <klepas> msikma: ping
[01:18] <klepas> troy_s: ping
[01:18] <klepas> Trae: ping
[01:43] <msikma> pong
[01:43] <lizardking> ping all
[01:48] <darkmatter> yo'
[01:56] <klepas> hey chaps
[01:56] <klepas> msikma: what time suits you in regards to meeting online for an hour or two?
[02:09] <PingunZ> troy_s, poke
[02:10] <PingunZ> I'm back :)
[04:06] <troy_s> pingunz
[04:07] <troy_s> greets friend
[04:07] <troy_s> msikma
[04:08] <troy_s> pingunz i see you made it official on the team :)
[04:11] <PingunZ|afk> troy_s, yup
[04:11] <PingunZ|afk> troy_s, I'm _back_
[04:12] <PingunZ|afk> but I'm afk again ^^
[04:12] <PingunZ|afk> later
[04:29] <troy_s> pm me when you are in pingunz
[04:29] <troy_s> msikma -- pm me when you are around.
[05:26] <troy_s> lizardking__: you should wiki your knowledge over getting oransoda into shape
[05:26] <troy_s> lizardking__:  it would be helpful and go one more step towards getting some infrastructure in place.
[05:28] <kwwii> hi troy_s
[05:28] <lizardking__> troy_s: hi
[05:28] <troy_s> greets kwwii
[05:28] <kwwii> lizardking__: we based the example artwork package on your stuff...might want to look into that
[05:29] <kwwii> dholbach simplified stuff a bit
[05:29] <troy_s> the artwork autopackager needs to extend beyond artwork of course.
[05:29] <troy_s> as sound design, etc. all are viable targets.
[05:29] <kwwii> troy_s: very true
[05:29] <troy_s> i was discussing with dholbach about working on getting a better set of syntax rules in place
[05:30] <troy_s> but alas, last week I had to go shoot minis.
[05:30] <kwwii> I think my first work on this stuff will be to get an html preview of available packages ready
[05:30] <lizardking__> troy_s: So by now autopacker is not ablt to package my art, right?
[05:31] <troy_s> lizardking__: well theoretically yes
[05:31] <troy_s> lizardking__: because it is nothing more than automake etc
[05:31] <troy_s> which can be made to do anything...
[05:31] <kwwii> lizardking__: if you look into the example-artwork package you'll find that all we ded was take yours and change the names everywhere
[05:31] <lizardking__> troy_s:  What Should I add to wiki? I will do it if I undestand..
[05:31] <troy_s> but in the more practical sense
[05:31] <troy_s> we need some macros to handle easy bits like ADD_FILE(source, dest) type structure
[05:31] <troy_s> in a singular file
[05:32] <troy_s> so that your 'average' artist can handle the syntaxing.
[05:32] <troy_s> but again, it still needs to accommodate audio, cursors, python scripts, etc.
[05:32] <troy_s> and have them all land in the proper directories.
[05:32] <troy_s> python is probably going to be a heavy player
[05:32] <kwwii> troy_s: yeah, it would be cool if we could get is to be as easy as writing a wiki page
[05:32] <lizardking__> troy_s: Yes, this is the first difficult for Gnome artist. There isn't a main all theme manager. and Ubuntu artist staff should hacks with theese macros
[05:33] <lizardking__> kwwii: yes it would be cool as wiki! I agree
[05:34] <troy_s> lizardking__: macros are probably as a good spot to start as any
[05:34] <troy_s> macros in a singular file... as automake poops out files everywhere that are confusing for typical folks.
[05:36] <troy_s> probably need to brainstorm a good set of possible targets, and build from that.
[05:37] <lizardking__> troy_s: Adding one features to current blubuntu-look is so difficult, because artis needs knowledge about editing makefile.am et simlia. It is a average knowlede. We must abstract the adding mechanis to simplify things
[05:37] <lizardking__> troy_s: yes I agree we must make a brainstorm on that
[05:39] <lizardking__> kwwii: What is the example staff based on mine?
[05:39] <kwwii> erm, i was wrong
[05:39] <kwwii> just saw that
[05:39] <kwwii> we used blubuntu
[05:40] <kwwii> I thought otherwise because we looked at ornasoda quite a bit
[05:40] <kwwii> as it is, you only have to edit a line of files to be installed
[05:40] <lizardking__> kwwii: ok ok
[05:41] <kwwii> in setup.py
[05:41] <lizardking__> it Seems goods this way
[05:41] <kwwii> time for dinner
[05:41] <kwwii> bbl
[05:42] <lizardking__> Good dinner! for me it is time to go
[05:42] <kwwii> yeah, we need to test it out and add a lot of stuff probably
[05:42] <lizardking__> kwwii: yes, well said
[05:42] <kwwii> but we can improve it through time and testing
[05:42] <lizardking__> kwwii: sure
[05:43] <lizardking__> kwwii: Have yet some similar python script or it will be done froms scratch?
[05:44] <lizardking__> I must go out . however I always stay on channel with other computer in the user called lizardking
[05:44] <lizardking__> if you want to report me something wirte there
[05:47] <lizardking__> Where I can find logs of this irc channel?
[07:53] <troy_s> probably easily accomplished with a syntax parser that Daniel would develop -- as he is the build meister.
[07:54] <troy_s> It needs to work for _him_
[07:54] <troy_s> and that means that ultimately he needs to think it through.
[07:58] <torrrrr> hi
[07:58] <torrrrr> my new ubuntu keep forgeting its DNS setup
[07:59] <torrrrr> I have made a location in thet network tool
[07:59] <torrrrr> and set up nicely the network DNS
[07:59] <torrrrr> and it keeps forgetting about them!!!
[08:14] <troy_s> uh
[08:14] <troy_s> wrong forum
[08:14] <troy_s> but i could probably helpy ou
[08:14] <troy_s> make sure that your DEFAULT /etc/network/interfaces file is set to auto
[08:14] <troy_s> for everytihng
[08:28] <PingunZ|afk> troy_s, can I pm you ?
[08:28] <troy_s> go PingunZ|afk
[08:28] <troy_s> ill get back to you if you idle on.
[08:29] <PingunZ|afk> ok
[08:41] <torrrrr> I am a bit dislectic aparently ... though artwork for network
[08:41] <torrrrr> anyway troy_s, I have there: auto eth0
[08:41] <torrrrr> iface eth0 inet static
[09:50] <troy_s> torrrrr: Your wireless will be eth1
[09:50] <troy_s> PingunZ: back momentarily.
[09:50] <PingunZ> troy_s, hey
[09:50] <PingunZ> pm ?
[09:51] <PingunZ> this channel is fine as well
[09:51] <lizardking> Hi all
[09:51] <PingunZ> hey lizardking
[09:51] <troy_s> go pingunz... you can pm me if you wish.
[09:52] <PingunZ> ok
[09:52] <troy_s> lizardking: You might want to lend your thoughts to that spec
[09:54] <darkmatter> afternoon all
[09:55] <troy_s> greetings darkmatter.
[09:56] <lizardking> troy_s: I'm reading the wiki spec. i'm quite busy now
[09:56] <troy_s> lizardking: ditto.
[09:58] <troy_s> oh god
[09:58] <troy_s> not joejaxx
[09:58] <joejaxx> LOL!
[09:58] <troy_s> Everyone hide.
[10:01] <lizardking> troy_s: I do agree with the spec. One thing that I don't undestand it s the LizardK's use case.. Who is the persone that accept or reject the spec?
[10:03] <troy_s> Well it is more a brainstorming page for us
[10:03] <troy_s> so that we have something to take to daniel
[10:03] <troy_s> and he can think it through and see if it is a possibility
[10:04] <troy_s> if _anyone_ can make it happen, Daniel can.
[10:04] <lizardking> troy_s: mHH daniel is quite a boss :D
[10:06] <troy_s> He is darn skilled at making things reality.
[10:06] <lizardking> troy_s: I think we must realize this spec to provide wide theme development from usplash to fonts..
[10:07] <troy_s> Well... wide theme spec is a level of abstraction higher
[10:07] <troy_s> we first need a technique for swiftly integrating elements.
[10:07] <troy_s> the likelihood that anyone with any skillset is going to contribute to the default ubuntu pattern is low.
[10:07] <lizardking> it is a good features for Daniel! Troy I'm leaving.. See u afer or tomorrow..
[10:07] <troy_s> so it will require an infrastructure in place to allow for outside community based work.
[10:07] <troy_s> lizardking: chat soon.
[10:09] <lizardking> yes infact I said wide theme develpoment not wide theme switching ;) it is a lower layer ;D
[10:10] <troy_s> i agree.
[10:11] <troy_s> but yes... we need to brainstorm what would be required and possible 'easy' syntax for the creative design framework.
[10:12] <lizardking> troy_s : Yes the keyword is brainstorm..brainstorm! i'm leaving because my girlfriend is requesting me :D see U later
[10:14] <troy_s> lizardking: chat soon my friend.
[10:14] <troy_s> lizardking: if you get a second or two, see if you can make that idea better.