[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81904 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81904
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81905 in f-spot (main) "[feisty]  f-spot does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81905
[12:20] <dsas> marnanel: Any idea about bug 72732 ?
[12:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72732 in metacity "alt-f6 doesn't reliably switch between windows within an application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72732
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81906 in zenity (main) "crashes on bootup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81906
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81907 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythbackend crashed as the frontend was exited normally" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81907
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81909 in Ubuntu "Desktop Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81909
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81910 in onboard (main) "[apport]  run-onboard.py crashed with  SyntaxError in run_script()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81910
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[01:29] <marnanel> dsas: I'll take a look
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81911 in Ubuntu "Beryl Core Bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81911
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81913 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81913
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81914 in nexuiz (universe) "nexuiz crashes after a few seconds of gameplay" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81914
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[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81912 in asterisk (universe) "[Merge]  asterisk 1.2.14~dfsg-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81912
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81915 in hal (main) "[feisty]  hald adds/removes same device many times a second causing high loads and extremally slow performance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81915
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[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81916 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81916
[01:51] <dsas> marnanel: cool, thanks. I wasn't sure after reading the original upstream report about implementing it, whether this was by design in some way.
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[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81917 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81917
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81918 in democracyplayer (universe) "crashed on startup with gnome ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81918
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[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81919 in Ubuntu "Error on installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81919
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[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81920 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Brightness is 0 due to setting a non-schema value" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81920
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81921 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81921
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[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81922 in totem (main) "totem enqueue doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81922
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[03:15] <marnanel> dsas: I commented on that bug
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81923 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-theme-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in strrchr()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81923
[03:18] <dsas> marnanel: Sweet, thanks. I'll shift the bug to gnome-terminal and check to see if it needs pushing upstream there.
[03:18] <dsas> marnanel: Thanks for this feature, I wasn't aware of it until finding this bug :), it'll make finding the correct vim window much easier.
[03:19] <marnanel> I may be wrong, but that's what I came up with after a few minutes reading around.
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[03:19] <marnanel> "group" isn't as widely supported as it should be.
[03:19] <marnanel> Of course, we MAY be doing it wrong... :)
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81924 in Ubuntu "nvidia fb causes soft CPU lockup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81924
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81925 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81925
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[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81927 in Ubuntu "BIOS Bug: MCFG area at f8000000 is not E820-reserved" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81927
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[03:54] <bdmurray> anybody notice how bug 81924 doesn't have a package?
[03:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81924 in Ubuntu "nvidia fb causes soft CPU lockup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81924
[03:55] <bdmurray> Ubugtu says it is in "Ubuntu" which isn't really helpful
[03:56] <bdmurray> One way to help would be to properly classify new bugs showing up in "Ubuntu", because if they are in Ubuntu they are less likely to get noticed
[03:56] <DktrKranz> maybe assigninging it to linux-source-2.6.17 would help
[03:56] <bdmurray> Yeah, that's what I did.
[03:57] <bdmurray> That way the kernel team will actually see it
[03:57] <DktrKranz> you could also ask if it happens everytime
[03:58] <bdmurray> and for lspci -vvn which is something the kernel team normally wants
[04:00] <crimsun> ``dmesg'' output is also useful.
[04:00] <DktrKranz> yes
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81928 in listen (universe) "[apport]  listen crashed with AttributeError in on_key_press()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81928
[04:00] <DktrKranz> softlockups shouldn't crash the whole system
[04:01] <DktrKranz> so he could be able to report such informations
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[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81929 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81929
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[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81930 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gaim_gtk_blist_get_status_icon()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81930
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81931 in Ubuntu "Web site suggestion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81931
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[05:17] <dhr> newbie question: x is misbehaving.  I want to use gdb on the x server.  There are no debugging symbols on the binaries.  Is there a way to get them (like, for example, how redhat had debuginfo rpms)?  Or do I have to rebuild with different flags?
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[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81932 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81932
[05:49] <dhr> I bound an answer to my question here http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces/DistroSpecificInstructions . Unfortunately the debug symbol packages don't exist for at least some updated packages.
[05:50] <dhr> s/bound/found/
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81933 in deskbar-applet (main) "[apport]  deskbar-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81933
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81934 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash after freeze of about 1 minute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81934
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81935 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes with a message from a friend with WL Messenger" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81935
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[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81936 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81936
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[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81937 in mozilla (universe) "Mozilla calendar crash on attempt to import" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81937
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[08:10] <gnutz> how do I find out how much ram I have in ubuntu
[08:10] <gnutz> ?
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81938 in ubiquity (main) "crash while disc partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81938
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[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81939 in democracyplayer (universe) "Crashed on starting a video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81939
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81940 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81940
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[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81941 in rbbr (universe) "rbbr should depend on ri1.8 package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81941
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81942 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81942
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81943 in ubiquity (main) "partitioner crashed when installing herd2 over edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81943
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81944 in ubiquity (main) "screen corruption during install." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81944
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81945 in ubiquity (main) "world map resize very slow." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81945
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81947 in Ubuntu "Add default doc. types to "Create document" option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81947
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[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81948 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with AssertionError in run_crash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81948
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[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81951 in build-essential (main) "ld tries to free on a non-existant pointer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81951
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81950 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Kernel loads two AGP bridges - causes Radeon DRI to fail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81950
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81952 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81952
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[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81953 in f-spot (main) "F-spot crashes on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81953
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[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81954 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Crash on closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81954
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81955 in gnome-breakout (universe) "gnome-breakout doesn't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81955
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[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81956 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81956
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[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81957 in service-discovery-applet (universe) "service-discovery-applet crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81957
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81958 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox cannot handle AAC files with gstreamer faad plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81958
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[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81959 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81959
[11:55] <medders> does anyone know how to mark a bug as being for more than one package?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> medders: which one?
[11:56] <medders> bug 78590
[11:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78590 in firefox "When openning a page in a new window firefox crashes" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78590
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[11:58] <Hobbsee> medders: also effects...distribution...
[11:58] <Hobbsee> select ubuntu, then type in the package it effects
[11:58] <medders> Hobbsee: that makes sense now, I always thought it meant mark it as affecting the whole distro :)
[11:58] <medders> Hobbsee: Thanks :)
[11:58] <Hobbsee> medders: seems not :)
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[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81961 in Ubuntu "gnome-power-manager should report a reason when "HAL failed to hibernate"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81961
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[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81960 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager says that HAL was unable to hibernate right after hibernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81960
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[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81962 in Ubuntu "lm-sensors not workin without  sudo ./MAKEDEV i2c" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81962
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81963 in rdesktop (main) "[feisty]  keyboard layout maps improperly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81963
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[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81964 in firefox (main) "Firefox segfaults in Feisty with a profile from Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81964
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81965 in network-manager (main) "does not connect at resume, because it does not prompt for keyring password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81965
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81966 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81966
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[01:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81967 in vim-latexsuite (universe) "Please sync vim-latexsuite (universe) from unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81967
[01:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81968 in boson-base (universe) "[Remove]  Remove boson-base from feisty (superseded by boson)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81968
[01:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81969 in onboard (main) "apt-get problem with onboard_0.85_all.deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81969
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[01:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/69244
[01:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69244 in openoffice.org "Crash when switching back and forth from full screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/69247
[01:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69247 in openoffice.org "Crash when browsing document templates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> does somebody think that these two bugs could at least be confirmed?
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[01:20] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Do document templates work in openoffice for everybody else?
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81971 in pygoocanvas (universe) "python-pygoocanvas doesn't work with python 2.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81971
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81970 in aptitude (main) "SIGABRT when auditing recommendations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81970
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[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81972 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic crashes after removing package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81972
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[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81973 in hal (main) "[apport]  hal-device-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81973
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81974 in png2html (universe) "it crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81974
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81975 in Ubuntu "alsamixer : function snd_mixer_load failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81975
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[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81977 in nautilus (main) "how to search for folders?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81977
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[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81978 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81978
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[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81979 in apport (main) "no progress while gzipping core" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81979
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81980 in amule (universe) "Amule Cash when I tryed to get the server list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81980
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81981 in soundconverter (universe) "soundconverter 0.9.3-1 .desktop file icon entry is empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81981
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81982 in mkvtoolnix (universe) "Please sync 2.0.0-1 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81982
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[02:25] <pochu> !info amule edgy
[02:25] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[02:26] <coNP> hi pochu
[02:26] <pochu> hi coNP!
[02:27] <pochu> coNP: lot of bugs today?
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81983 in zsnes (multiverse) "outdated + no desktop entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81983
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[02:31] <coNP> pochu: not many by now
[02:32] <coNP> pochu: do you fix bugs now or just do some triaging?
[02:32] <pochu> coNP: the most of the time I search for duplicates, and close those reports which aren't bugs
[02:33] <coNP> yep, I also think I want to do this now
[02:33] <pochu> :)
[02:33] <coNP> too many open bugs now
[02:35] <bdmurray> How do you search for duplicates pochu?
[02:35] <pochu> bdmurray: now is very easy
[02:35] <pochu> with the apport bugs
[02:36] <pochu> bdmurray: you can go to app-install bugs and order by newest
[02:36] <pochu> bdmurray: there will be a lot of bugs with the same name
[02:36] <pochu> bdmurray: just open theme and look that they are really the same
[02:37] <bdmurray> Yeah, I saw that some of the gnome-app-install ones.
[02:37] <bdmurray> Has the linux-source- info I gave helped out at all?
[02:37] <pochu> bdmurray: or you can go to one package, and look for the bugs
[02:37] <pochu> bdmurray: it has :)
[02:38] <pochu> other thing I like to do is move bugs in ubuntu to the proper package
[02:39] <bdmurray> Yes, that would help a lot. That way a developer actually has a chance of seeing it.
[02:39] <bdmurray> You might also look at ubuntu-meta and kubuntu-meta.
[02:39] <DktrKranz> are you using bughelper?
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81984 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81835)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81984
[02:40] <pochu> DktrKranz: I'm not
[02:41] <bdmurray> I was just thinking about bughelper and apport.
[02:41] <pochu> DktrKranz: still don't know how to use it
[02:41] <DktrKranz> i started using it some times ago
[02:41] <DktrKranz> it helps a lot
[02:41] <bdmurray> i.e. writing a clue file for gnome-app-install
[02:41] <DktrKranz> it searches through attachme3nts
[02:41] <bdmurray> to find more dups as they come in
[02:41] <DktrKranz> *attachments
[02:41] <DktrKranz> so finding dupes is easier
[02:42] <pochu> that's great!
[02:42] <DktrKranz> if you use a well-formatted clue, of course
[02:42] <pochu> I've read all the mails in the ML, but I haven't tried it yet
[02:42] <bdmurray> It would help most if we shared our knowledge by writing clue files.
[02:42] <DktrKranz> dholback and dsas are doing a great job
[02:43] <DktrKranz> bdmurray: yes
[02:43] <DktrKranz> it's a major bug
[02:43] <DktrKranz> writing good clues
[02:43] <DktrKranz> there are only two actually
[02:44] <bdmurray> I made a 3rd, I thought it was in .main
[02:44] <DktrKranz> mmh, i didn't bzr recently so i'm not aware of it
[02:44] <bdmurray> not that is particularly useful, but as a good starting example
[02:45] <DktrKranz> what package did you prepare a clue for?
[02:46] <bdmurray> popcon
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[02:47] <bdmurray> er, popularity-contest
[02:47] <DktrKranz> ok
[02:47] <DktrKranz> i recently submitted a patch
[02:47] <DktrKranz> it keeps track of status and importance
[02:48] <bdmurray> How did you submit it?
[02:48] <DktrKranz> bug #81370
[02:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81370 in bughelper "bughelper should show status and importance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81370
[02:49] <bdmurray> and you added a patch to that bug?
[02:49] <DktrKranz> yep
[02:49] <bdmurray> Cool
[02:50] <DktrKranz> regex is *very* ugly
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[02:51] <bdmurray> You might cc: the mailing list too.  As only dholbach is on the bughelper Developer team
[02:51] <DktrKranz> if i mind well dsas too, isn't he?
[02:52] <bdmurray> not on the team in launchpad but he is subscribed to the mailing list
[02:52] <pochu> hey guys I've to leave you
[02:52] <pochu> see you later ;)
[02:52] <bdmurray> see ya
[02:52] <DktrKranz> see ya pochu ;)
[02:52] <totopalma> bye :)
[02:54] <DktrKranz> oh, bughelper has a dedicate ML
[02:54] <DktrKranz> i noticed just now :(
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[02:54] <DktrKranz> so, bugsquad is happy, no more spam about bughelper :D
[02:55] <bdmurray> that was the intent, we didn't want to lose any subscribers from the bugsquad mailing list
[02:56] <DktrKranz> good choice
[02:56] <DktrKranz> a friend of mine was complainig about it
[02:57] <bdmurray> it was a tough choice because we wanted people to be interested in bughelper
[03:00] <DktrKranz> as italian community we plan to implement a sort of forum ambassadors, bughelper will give a great help
[03:00] <DktrKranz> especially when web service will be ready
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[03:02] <bdmurray> what do you mean?
[03:02] <DktrKranz> i'll give some reference
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[03:03] <DktrKranz> someting like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumAmbassadors
[03:07] <bdmurray> I'm not sure if dholbach finished / committed the clue file inheritance yet, but one thing we could use it for is checking for bugs with non-english words
[03:08] <DktrKranz> what's the scope behind it?
[03:08] <bdmurray> That way people that can speak the language the bug was submitted in could help.
[03:09] <bdmurray> s/speak/read/
[03:09] <DktrKranz> for suppor tracker a user can submit a ticket in his native language
[03:10] <DktrKranz> i think there's no chance to see it in malone
[03:10] <bdmurray> I don't believe it is that way yet with malone.
[03:10] <DktrKranz> it won't be the right way to do so, IMHO
[03:10] <bdmurray> So having a generic clue file would allow loco teams to communicate with the bug submitter.
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[03:12] <DktrKranz> in order to translate it right?
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[03:14] <coNP> bdmurray, DktrKranz: how exactly do cluefiles work?
[03:14] <bdmurray> a clue file searches bugs in a package for a particular string and returns info about what the bug might be
[03:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81986 in listen (universe) "[apport]  listen crashed with AttributeError in fill()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81986
[03:15] <bdmurray> so we could write one for the listen package
[03:15] <bdmurray> looking for AttributeError (should be more specific) to help find dupes of the one that just came in
[03:15] <DktrKranz> bdmurray: i think gaim needs one
[03:15] <DktrKranz> too many open bugs, too many dupes!
[03:16] <Hobbsee> DktrKranz: very true!
[03:16] <bdmurray> DktrKranz: probably. it might be helpful if bughelper could report # of dupes to give starting points for writing clue files
[03:16] <DktrKranz> it is impossible to track every bug
[03:16] <DktrKranz> bugreports are huge
[03:16] <coNP> So all this is needed (mostly) because of automated bug-reports?
[03:17] <DktrKranz> mmmh
[03:17] <bdmurray> coNP: no, not really
[03:17] <DktrKranz> bughelper has a bug request of it
[03:17] <DktrKranz> it shouldn't be too hard to patch it
[03:17] <bdmurray> coNP: It is also needed because people submitting bugs might have a hard time describing their issue or finding a dup before they submit.
[03:18] <DktrKranz> something like Bug #79140
[03:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79140 in bughelper "RFE: Rank bugs by number of dupes" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79140
[03:18] <coNP> okay I guess I start to get the idea
[03:18] <coNP> where can I have a look at some cluefile?
[03:18] <coNP> I guess it would help me a lot
[03:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81987 in kubuntu-meta (main) "no warning when low disk space or even when disk full" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81987
[03:19] <coNP> if you don't mind lecturing me a bit :)
[03:20] <bdmurray> https://launchpad.net/bughelper
[03:20] <bdmurray> however, I think clue files were just split off
[03:20] <DktrKranz> coNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/ClueFiles contains a skeleton of a clue file
[03:21] <bdmurray> https://launchpad.net/bughelper-data
[03:21] <coNP> DktrKranz: thansk!
[03:21] <coNP> bdmurray: thanks, actually I got frightened by the many branches of it :)
[03:21] <DktrKranz> ah, a new trunk
[03:21] <DktrKranz> will it accept bugs for clue files?
[03:22] <bdmurray> It might, or you could use bzr and commit clue files yourself
[03:22] <DktrKranz> it is a public repo^
[03:23] <DktrKranz> s/^/?/
[03:24] <bdmurray> Yes, I believe so.  You just need to be able to commit via sftp to launchpad
[03:24] <DktrKranz> i'm gonna ask dholback about it
[03:25] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev has some info
[03:26] <bdmurray> Latest discussion was that clue files shouldn't need a separate branch nor verfication
[03:26] <bdmurray> As there isn't as much chance of breakage
[03:26] <bdmurray> In the meantime you could submit a bug or mail the mailing list about a clue file and I'd be happy to add it
[03:28] <DktrKranz> of course
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81988 in gaim (main) "Gaim will not connect when a static network is set up." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81988
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81990 in kdebase (main) "Kate does not respect global color scheme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81990
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81991 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81991
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[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81994 in Ubuntu "Japanese pc 106 keyboard closing curley brace is showing |" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81994
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81995 in mailman (main) "install fails - two files missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81995
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[05:08] <pochu> hi coNP :)
[05:10] <coNP> hi pochu
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[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81997 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81997
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81998 in base-installer (main) "instalation bad grub paramenters raid mylex 160" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81998
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81999 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager highly unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81999
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[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82001 in gftp (main) "I used GFTp to connect to a mates server, however when trying to chmod, it chrased" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82001
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82003 in phpmyadmin (universe) "Dapper's phpmyadmin has several security bugs" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82003
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82004 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82004
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82005 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82005
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[06:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82006 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "plug/unplug webcam crashes system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82006
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[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82007 in apport (main) "no way to choose the web browser with konqueror installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82007
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82008 in Ubuntu "Administrator files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82008
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82009 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82009
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82010 in firefox (main) "firefox 2.0.0.1 crashes 'randomly'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82010
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82011 in sbackup (universe) "backup on other device not possible (not root?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82011
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82012 in firefox (main) "firefox crash 2.0.0.1 crashes when switching to diffrent workspace." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82012
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[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82013 in vlc (universe) "crash after last update (jan-28-2007)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82013
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82014 in Ubuntu "can't start ubuntu or kubuntu from cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82014
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82015 in espeak (universe) "eSpeak in Russian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82015
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[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82016 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__() (dup-of: 81835)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82016
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82017 in firefox (main) "chash firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82017
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82018 in fontconfig (main) "libfontconfig1-dev will not install on AMD64 Ubuntu Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82018
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82019 in kile (universe) "Kile 1.9 for amd64 missing in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82019
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82020 in binutils (main) "binutils don't correctly compile assembly code with calls to an absolute address" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82020
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82021 in alsa-lib (main) "Sound doesn't work on A8V-MX (VIA8233)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82021
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[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82022 in firefox (main) "Master Dapper Crash" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82022
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82023 in integrit (universe) "[apport]  integrit crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82023
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[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82024 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "dmesg tells me to try 'pci=assign-busses'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82024
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[08:49] <christof-kr> hi, the status of bug #81599 can be changed, the author has accepted the patch to his sources so that the bug should be fixed on the next release
[08:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81599 in hardware-monitor "hardware-monitor cpu monitoring should not include iowait" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81599
[08:49] <sacater_> hey, is it normal for firefox to crash when loading, whilst a LOT of other cpu-using stuff is active
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82025 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82025
[08:53] <sacater_> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
[08:54] <sacater_> since when is there a 7.04
[08:55] <welshbyte> that's what feisty is going to be
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82026 in evince (main) "Evince crashes the second time that I open the files." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82026
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[08:56] <sacater_> oh...... great
[08:57] <sacater_> does anyone know EXACTLY why people have difficulty merging from 6.06 to 6.10
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[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82027 in gnumeric (main) "[apport]  ssindex crashed with SIGSEGV in ??()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82027
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[09:15] <crimsun> sacater_: there are numerous reasons, so an "exact" reason is not possible
[09:15] <sacater_> touche'
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82028 in Ubuntu "microphone does not work on intel macbook with edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82028
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82029 in Ubuntu "microphone does not work on intel macbook with edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82029
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82030 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82030
[09:16] <crimsun> sacater_: e.g., when people install third-party packages whose origin is not on a Canonical-hosted server/mirror, there are many additional vectors for dist-upgrade failures
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[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82031 in Ubuntu "system-preferences-sessions closed,  beryl crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82031
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[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82033 in Ubuntu "error when attempting to test Cd integrity - Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82033
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82032 in gaim (main) "[crash]  Gaim 1.5.0 crashing: *** glibc detected *** gaim: double free or corruption (out): 0x084ec9c0 ***" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82032
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82034 in adept (main) "Adept proposes upgrade of Kubuntu and then exits" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82034
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82035 in Ubuntu "Please sync pam-keyring (0.0.8-1) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82035
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82036 in Ubuntu "No weather applet in Kubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82036
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82037 in gnucash (universe) "[Merge]  gnucash 2.0.2-3ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82037
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82038 in pcsx (universe) "pcsx crash (bug found with chrono cross)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82038
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82039 in firefox (main) "Crash no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82039
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82040 in phpgroupware (universe) "Please sync phpgroupware (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82040
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82041 in libgnomeui (main) "pre-removal script returns code 127" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82041
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[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82043 in plptools (universe) "[Merge]  plptools 0.15-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82043
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82042 in epiphany-browser (main) "[apport]  epiphany crashed when use previous button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82042
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[10:51] <torrrrr> Hi, I set up my network in GUI and the configuration get lost, I set it up in resolv.conf, and it gets overwriten. Any idea?
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[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82044 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82044
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82045 in gst-ffmpeg (universe) "[Merge]  gst-ffmpeg 0.8.7-10ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82045
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[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82047 in xpat2 (universe) "xpat2 needs font, but its package doesn't depend on font package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82047
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[11:49] <xlizer> hey, having a problem with smb networks
[11:49] <xlizer> anyone know enough to help?
[11:51] <coNP> xlizer: actually you should asking it on #ubuntu (dapper, edgy) or #ubuntu+1 (feisty); lot of helpful people there :)
[11:51] <xlizer> thanks
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[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82048 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu (edgy) won't log in with full root partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82048
[11:56] <crimsun> um.
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