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jendaWhere's tonyyarusso... I want to talk to tonyyarusso.12:44
tonyyarussojenda: present12:44
jendaYAARGH!12:44
jendaGreat quiz, sir ;)12:44
jendatotally funky ;)12:45
tonyyarussoThanks!12:45
tonyyarussoI had fun, I know that much.12:45
somerville32Did it just occur?12:45
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jendasomerville32: yup, a few hours back.12:46
somerville32Doh.12:46
jendamc44 is teh victor12:46
somerville32Lets do it again just for fun ;] 12:46
tonyyarussolol12:46
jendasomerville32: I'll be doing one next week.12:48
jendaI hope.12:48
somerville32You should get more advertising12:49
somerville32But then again, maybe you did12:49
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tonyyarussoI spammed all three offtopic channels12:50
somerville32txt my cell, haha12:52
jendatonyyarusso: you can gently spam #ubuntu, as well. It's the one where you catch most of the population ;)12:56
tonyyarussojenda: True.12:56
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LjLi'd love if people wouldn't have nicks such as "torrrrrrrr", not to mention all-uppercase ones12:59
LjLi can't see if the channel is being spammed or what12:59
mc44says the man with 67% uppercase nick12:59
tonyyarussolol01:00
tonyyarussoor rather, LoL01:00
LjLmc44, don't be stupid now01:00
LjLit's 66.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666%01:00
LjLgive or take some floating point precision01:00
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jendaIt's actually 2/301:01
LjLjenda: i don't deal with quantities that my CPU doesn't represent01:01
jendaI'm sorry for you.01:02
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PriceChildjenda, - I missed the quiz :(01:04
jendaPriceChild: so did I01:04
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jendatonyyarusso: actually... the quiz was very inspiring :)01:16
jendatonyyarusso: the theme wasn't in the questions... it was in the answers :-D01:16
jendabrilliant :)01:16
somerville32Can I see?01:17
tonyyarussojenda: I thought it was clever01:17
jendasomerville32: http://pastebin.com/86890001:18
jendatonyyarusso: thanks - if you ever feel like it again, feel free to speak up :)01:18
tonyyarussojenda: sure01:18
jendaWe need more quizmasters - it's almost solely theCore doing it.01:19
LjL!ops-#kubuntu01:19
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO01:19
jendaANd we need more sponsors - I can't afford to pay it for ever :)01:19
somerville32Jenda: I'll sponsor01:19
DBOdamn you LjL01:19
tonyyarussoI know....01:20
tonyyarussodarn triggers01:20
LjLsorry DBO, but i don't yet feel like i can act as a 100% #kubuntu op01:20
jendasomerville32: cool :)01:20
jendasomerville32: what's the prize?01:20
DBOLjL, I feel the same kinda still =.01:20
DBO=/01:20
DBOI tend to wait for the more clear cut cases in there01:20
LjLDBO: well, my "nazi" hl was triggered... twice01:20
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jendasomerville32: if you can't think of anytihng, you can always donate $3 for a pack of stickers :)01:20
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LjLand just above there was socialism and zionism01:20
somerville32Jenda: I'll give you money01:21
DBOLjL, good idea, highlighting nazi01:21
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LjLwillys_fueguino, public away messages are kind of annoying tbh...01:21
jendasomerville32: cool - I'll file it on the next available quiz - two weeks from now, I thin.01:21
jendak01:21
somerville32Tell me when you want money, I shall send it01:21
jendafeel free to send that at any point later.01:21
jendacool.01:21
willys_fueguinoLjL: sorry for that I was making a point for someone01:21
willys_fueguino:-\01:21
jendaGood night y'all.01:22
somerville32tonyyarusso, omgz, that waz brilliant! :)01:22
tonyyarusso:)01:23
willys_fueguinojenda: niight01:23
willys_fueguinosleep well01:23
LjLkubuntu ops... please01:23
LjLi don't know what to do now01:23
jendaLjL: if no channel ops are aroun...01:24
LjLdistro-tester just asked me to "finish his conversation" with minuwhatever01:24
jenda...ask the staf :)01:24
LjLi told him to do that in private01:24
LjLjenda, i'm a #kubuntu op for that matter, technically01:24
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jendaLjL: oh, ok.01:24
LjLbesides now i've got that obnoxious italian in a query... blah01:24
LjLjenda: i'm just not comfortable with taking actions other than blatant-abuse-bans on there01:25
LjLand he knows /whois too, argh, and he's on the same isp as me, argh, i'll have to pull the network cable01:26
jendahehe01:27
jendaoh well, I'll sleep on it, and think about helping you out tomorrow, how's that, LjL? :)01:27
LjLsounds... good >:01:27
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willys_fueguinohahahah01:31
willys_fueguinoI thought that ppl were more "serious" overhere...01:31
willys_fueguino:-P01:31
LjLi'm totally serious, i'm not comfortable with people on my NAT talking about sensitive political opinions and querying me in italian01:32
DBOyou're so cuddly LjL01:32
willys_fueguinocuddly??01:33
LjL...01:33
willys_fueguino"sensitive political opinions"... hows that??01:33
LjLahum01:34
LjLhe claimed he's a nazi, if i got it right. twice. once on -offtopic and then now in #kubuntu01:34
LjLactually, this is a connection reset by peer for a couple of minutes01:34
willys_fueguinoufff....01:35
willys_fueguinoand you are jewish LjL??01:35
DBOwhat does that have to do with anything?01:35
willys_fueguinoI can't understand how does that affects him...01:36
DBObecause nazi's A) are not on topic01:37
DBOand B) are not on topic01:37
willys_fueguinoanyway... a nazi is an ignorant people who doesn't even deserves to be noticed...01:37
DBOincorrect01:37
DBOthey should be noticed hanging from a tree01:37
DBOanyhow01:38
willys_fueguinoDBO: he said that he did it on #offtopic and then on #kubuntu01:38
DBOyes01:38
willys_fueguinoDBO: :-O01:38
DBO#kubuntu is the issue01:38
willys_fueguinorofl!!01:38
willys_fueguinoDBO: yeap... thats the issue...01:38
willys_fueguinobut anyway...01:38
willys_fueguinoI respect what anyyone believe...01:39
willys_fueguino*anyone01:39
willys_fueguinoeven if its inmoral or even suicide...01:39
willys_fueguinoI don't care..01:40
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LjL-Tempgee, i didn't time out *yet*01:41
LjL-Tempfreenode is crazy01:41
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jendaFreenode is perfect. There is no Cabal, and we've always been at war with Oceania.01:41
willys_fueguinojenda: wth??!! xDDDD01:42
willys_fueguino"we've always been at war with Oceania."01:43
willys_fueguinowhere are you from jenda??01:43
LjLwillys_fueguino: obscure quote...01:43
jendaCzech Republic, willys_fueguino - and it's a quote from Orwell's 198401:43
tonyyarussoNot that obscure01:43
willys_fueguino:-O01:44
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jendaI'll try not to be around tomorrow.01:44
jendaBut you know me.01:44
willys_fueguinoI think that I saw some czech womens and they are extremely bautiful... Is that correct jenda??01:45
LjLahem01:45
jendahaha01:45
jendawillys_fueguino: slightly off-topic, sorry :)01:45
willys_fueguinoups...01:45
jendaand it's an urban myth of course.01:45
jendadon't you dare touch our chicks ;)01:45
willys_fueguinosorry bout that (but you didn't answer not even on private)01:46
willys_fueguinoXDDDDD01:46
tsmitheit's not at all obscure01:46
tsmithe(and it's a wonderful book)01:46
LjLok, not everyone is a native english speaker, and it *can* be a tad obscure if you aren't one01:46
tsmitheyeah01:47
LjLand i did read 1984 ftr01:47
tsmithebut it's still pretty much ubiquitous nonetheless01:47
tsmithethat is *the* book01:47
LjLi'm sure i could quote you some Dante that you haven't heard... anyway. </offtopic>01:48
LjLnalioth, how away are you?01:49
willys_fueguinohahaha01:50
willys_fueguinoI'll write down that phrase to use it XDDD01:50
willys_fueguinotheres no #ubuntu-ops-offtopic??01:52
willys_fueguinoOh... you use ubuntu-offtopic right??01:52
LjLyup01:52
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LjLthere is no cabal, you see :P01:53
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willys_fueguinouffff02:03
willys_fueguinoIs there a translator bot over here??02:04
willys_fueguino'cause I could use one02:04
willys_fueguino:-P02:04
LjLwillys_fueguino: not that i know of02:04
LjLautomatic translators are terrible anyway02:04
LjL!rbot | willys_fueguino02:05
uboturbot: IRC bot written in ruby. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 584 kB02:05
LjLclaims to have translation from babelfish02:05
willys_fueguinoLjL: I had one... (L_Torvalds) that had that functionality...02:05
willys_fueguinoI have to install it again..02:05
willys_fueguinobut I don't know if I'm aloud to bring it over here...02:06
PriceChildL_torvalds.... I remember that bot from somewhere which isn't good...02:06
LjLwillys_fueguino: in this channel, no, i'm afraid not02:06
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: I had a few problems with it on #ubuntu-es I think...02:07
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, yes....02:07
PriceChildI had to teach the channel owner how to get rid of the bot because it was opped and de-opping anyone that tried to op02:07
PriceChildThat wasn't fun02:08
Kamping_Kaiserwhast the point in the | with the bot? it just dumps it in the channel anyway02:08
willys_fueguinoIt kept joining to that channel and it was doing something wrong...02:08
tonyyarussoKamping_Kaiser: hilights the target02:08
PriceChildKamping_Kaiser, pings the user its directed to02:08
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: no02:08
PriceChild!test| Kamping_Kaiser02:08
ubotuKamping_Kaiser: Failed.02:08
PriceChildlike so :)02:08
willys_fueguinoL_Torvalds is the op on #ubuntu-lat02:08
PriceChildyou can also use >'s instead to send it via pm...02:09
Kamping_Kaiserbut anytime you use a persons nick it does that. why not !fact >user?02:09
willys_fueguinobut it wasn't configured *yet*02:09
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, either way you shouldn't have bots ont he ops list02:09
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: is to kick people "easier"02:09
LjLKamping_Kaiser, i'll dig you the wishlist report as for the reasons i gave for it02:09
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, bad practice if you ask me... L_Torvalds got a channel stuck with the ops having no access whatso ever02:10
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: as an example... the channel owner can't use chanserv he only uses the bot :-P02:10
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, yes but what about the other ops#?02:10
LjLKamping_Kaiser: basically anyway, 1) a lot of people don't understand they have private messages, and you always end up repeating the same spam *twice* to get the point across 2) what the bugreport says02:10
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, a user was spamming and the ops couldn't do a thing about it02:10
Kamping_KaiserLjL, ah, 1 makes sense, thats tru eenough02:11
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: some of them can... but at that time was only present dthe channel owner I think02:11
LjLKamping_Kaiser: bug 6716102:11
UbugtuMalone bug 67161 in ubuntu-bots "Wish for ability to invoke factoids on a channel, while addressing to specific users" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6716102:11
Kamping_Kaiserthanks.02:11
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PriceChildwillys_fueguino, I still maintain its a VERY bad idea to have bots with ops... nevermind with access02:11
PriceChildAnd I'm sure someone here will back me up on that...02:12
willys_fueguinoPriceChild: but why is that??02:12
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, because of problems like the one that I had to deal with02:12
PriceChildwillys_fueguino, and also if there are vulnerabilities int he bot which you don't know about... malicious persons could use it against you02:12
PriceChildetc. etc.02:13
PriceChildThere is absolutely no reason why a bot needs ops.... your ops should be doing any kicking/banning IMO02:13
willys_fueguino:-\02:15
willys_fueguinogood points...02:15
willys_fueguinoanyway...02:16
willys_fueguinoI think its kinda faster to use the bot...02:16
PriceChildyes anyway... I'm off to bed02:16
PriceChildEnjoy yourself :)02:16
willys_fueguinoahahaah02:16
willys_fueguinosleep well02:16
willys_fueguinogood night PriceChild02:17
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naliothLjL: back02:49
willys_fueguinoIts hard to become an ubuntu member??02:49
naliothjust contribute to Ubuntu, willys_fueguino02:51
willys_fueguinoufff.... easy to say...02:52
willys_fueguinojust to "contribute" you have fill a form and pray to get accepted...02:52
willys_fueguinoI want to contribute as a translator (I think thats the only good thing that I can do)02:52
willys_fueguinoI contributed with the project "upstream" with a translation :-P02:53
willys_fueguinonalioth: what other way should I have to contribute if I dont know how to program and I am "really" bad with draws??02:55
tonyyarussoForm?  I never filled in any form.02:55
naliothwillys_fueguino: there are numbers of ways you can get involved02:55
robwillys_fueguino: can you describe and document software?02:56
robwillys_fueguino: try contributing to documentation02:56
willys_fueguinorob: I think I could... my spanish spelling its almost "perfect"02:58
willys_fueguinoand I can understand pretty well the english...02:58
willys_fueguinoI was thinking to contribute to the wikis...02:58
robthat's another good way, translations02:58
willys_fueguinothere are no spanish wikis on help.ubuntu02:58
willys_fueguinoor ubuntu.com02:58
robyou can translate official docs and software02:59
robhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+translations02:59
willys_fueguinorob: but I have to join the translators team03:00
willys_fueguinoand wait to them to accept me03:00
robmake an account using the link at the top right, then go back to that page and go for it, everything you do increases your karma on Launchpad (which is what Ubuntu uses to organise everything)03:00
willys_fueguinoi have an account...03:01
robwillys_fueguino: join the translations team channel and ask them to approve you, should be pretty quick03:01
willys_fueguinotoday I were helping LjL with the dcc bug wiki03:01
willys_fueguino(my first contribution I think)03:01
willys_fueguinoThat's considered a contribution?03:02
robbe sure to document everything you do on your wiki home page on wiki.ubuntu.com (same username as your launchpad account)03:02
robyes, everything counts03:02
willys_fueguinoI don't have a wiki page yet...03:02
willys_fueguino:-P03:02
robwhen you have a decent list of contributions, then put your name with a link to that page on the Ubuntu meeting agenda wiki page, and be sure to attend the next meeting03:03
willys_fueguinoufff....03:03
willys_fueguinothats a little scary03:03
willys_fueguino:-03:04
robnah, its all good03:04
robthey are nice :D03:04
willys_fueguinoI don't like to be exposed in front of the "bosses"...03:04
willys_fueguino:-\03:05
willys_fueguinohahahahah03:05
willys_fueguinorob: are you one of them??03:05
robno03:05
robI am a member though03:05
willys_fueguinorob: thats what I was talking about...03:05
willys_fueguinohows that launchpad-ubuntu are world wide and those pages don't have spanish translations???03:05
willys_fueguinoThere's lots of people who can't even ask freenode staffers to do x thing 'cause most staffers speak english...03:06
willys_fueguinoI can "handle" it... but many people don't03:07
robnot sure, but you could take the lead if translations for that language don't exist, which would be looked upon very favourably (imo) when going for membership03:07
willys_fueguino:-\03:07
LjLhm, sure launchpad itself supports that?03:07
robsupports what?03:07
LjLtranslations of its own site03:07
roboh, umm I'm not sure why it wouldn't (I was referring to Ubuntu translations), ask in #launchpad if you want03:08
willys_fueguinorob: :-D03:09
willys_fueguinoyou r giving hope to a poor argentinian guy that wannabe a programmer03:09
willys_fueguino:-P03:09
willys_fueguinouh?! spanish ubuntu translation isn't finished yet??!03:11
willys_fueguino8-O03:11
nixternalrob: ##chicago -> #ubuntu-chicago ? :)03:23
naliothwho owns ##chicago?03:23
nixternalme03:23
naliothnixternal: you can forward your channels anywhere you like03:24
robI guess, not really the same thing though03:24
nixternalorly03:24
naliothno, ##chicago is not #ubuntu-chicago03:24
willys_fueguinorob: some of those who proposed to be ubuntu-spanish translators have been waiting for a loooooooong time...03:43
robwillys_fueguino: try https://translations.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es03:45
willys_fueguinoI'll try...03:46
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MezAmaranth, you been playing with realistanew?06:36
elkbuntuyou didnt need to remove the cable... guys08:05
elkbuntus/guys/guy08:05
Mezthey were both causing trouble... fair treatment to all... it was just a "look, calm down" remove08:06
Mez<cablesm102> Alpha232, shut up, because I'm right! apt-get install apache source, OR aptitude install apache source will get you 2 packages: apache and source08:06
elkbuntuah, i iddnt see that oen08:11
tonyyarussoIt posted it posted08:14
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tonyyarusso(see ubotu in -offtopic)08:14
Meztonyyarusso, ?08:14
AmaranthMez: working on the code for it locally08:19
MezAmaranth, ah tis ok - my servers been hicupping a lot today08:19
Mezwas looking for someone to blame08:19
Amaranthheh08:19
Amaranthnever me :)08:19
tonyyarussoCan auto_sev_bleh.pl take multiple nicks as arguments?08:21
Mezno08:24
tonyyarussodang08:24
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SeveasIf ubotu goes down, it can't come back up until I fix the code10:02
Seveaswhich is rather imposible to do now, because I'm flying to geneva in a few hours10:02
maxamillionSeveas: good to know ... anyone have a backup bot?10:02
Seveasljl has ubotwo10:03
maxamillionawesome10:03
maxamillionwell ... i must go to sleep, i have work tomorrow10:03
tonyyarussoSeveas: Is there a reason to expect it to go down?10:04
Seveasno10:04
Seveasbut shit happens :)10:04
tonyyarussogotcha10:05
naliothSeveas: you are having that much of a desire for chocolate?10:05
Seveasheh10:05
tonyyarussoI would10:05
Seveasno, it's Ubuntu related :)10:05
naliothchocolate covered Ubuntu ?10:05
Seveasyum!10:05
SeveasI'll be in geneva until feb. 8, and should come back as Ubuntu Certified Professional :)10:07
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=== tonyyarusso wonders what that cert requires
Seveasnalioth, most likely not :)10:10
elkbuntutonyyarusso, it probably requires you to actually know stuff... so im ruled out already ;)10:12
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: lol.10:13
tonyyarussoThe question is, what stuff?  (ie, I wonder what I would score..)10:13
elkbuntuSeveas can tell you when he returns10:13
tonyyarussoyup10:13
Seveas:)10:13
naliothit's all an excuse to go chocolate hunting and gathering10:14
elkbuntunalioth, of course10:14
elkbuntusend postcards, Seveas :10:14
AmaranthQuestion 1 (2 points): What is sabdfl's date of birth and favorite colour?10:14
naliothchocolate postcards10:14
Seveashehe10:14
Amaranthit just gets more invasive from there10:14
elkbuntuAmaranth, question 2 (the other 98 points): What color underwear is sabdfl wearing right now?10:15
AmaranthI got an A+ ;)10:15
tonyyarusso...10:15
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Amaranthtonyyarusso: Don't worry, I won't tell everyone about the A you got. Can't believe you missed question 110:20
elkbuntuand question 2 becomes a trick question on the days he goes jockless10:24
tonyyarussoaaaah10:25
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MezIt's disturbing me10:25
Mezand not in a good way10:26
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elkbuntugah, i hate coming from cmd line to irc.. i try tab-complete everything10:29
Mezelkbuntu, I'm sure you enjoyed the mental imagery ;)10:29
Mezelkbuntu, me too ;)10:29
Mezjust like - ran<tab> wo<tab>10:29
elkbuntuMez, to be honest, he's not *that* good looking, so no, not particuarly10:30
Mezelkbuntu, lol - well you werent disturbed by it at least10:30
elkbuntuMez, then again, i prefer the thought of nekkid men to nekkid women ;)10:30
elkbuntu</conversation>10:30
Mez<conversation> so ... i love hearing things through the grapevine10:31
Mezapparently, I'm up for .... i was going to say promotion, but i'll say pay rise instead... at work10:32
Mezit's technically a demotion10:32
Mezor is it10:32
Mezlets call it a sidestep with pay rise10:33
Seveaspay rise is good10:37
elkbuntuhaving a job is good. :(10:43
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: Is there a better way to get http://phpxref.com/xref/wordpress/nav.html.gz?index.html.gz than to copy-paste and then delete all the line numbers?10:46
elkbuntuline numbers? im seeing a directory in frames10:47
elkbuntu[164 lines]   <-- or is this what ytou mean?10:47
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: click around to any file in the dir10:48
tonyyarussoI need actual source text of some of these10:48
MezSeveas, 40% pay rise ;)10:49
Seveasthat's ..... insane :)10:49
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Seveasheh10:49
naliothbetter than ordering a barber10:49
MezSeveas, indeed, but uber :D (40% once I've completed my training!)10:49
Meznalioth their words were "we cant force you to cut it off - but we'd like it if you did! but - at least wear it in a pony tail"10:50
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elkbuntutonyyarusso, im still not sure what you're talkign about so im going to say 'dunno'10:51
tonyyarussok10:51
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Mez;)10:53
=== Mez dances
=== jenda is danced
jendagood morning10:53
Hobbseemorning jenda!10:53
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=== Mez -> shop (brb)
Mezand dont kick me for that jenda :P10:54
Mezit ws typed10:54
jenda/cs k M... ah, ok.10:55
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stylus:) hai jenda, nalioth11:07
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=== Hobbsee x2, due to glasses
Mezyay11:08
MezI can now cook safely11:08
jendahehe11:08
jendaMez: did they cut power?11:08
Mezjenda, no - I found somewhere that sells the right light bulbs11:11
tonyyarussolol...11:11
jendahehe11:12
jendaDid they explode before? )11:12
tonyyarussoIf you ever want to amuse yourself, collect client stats on a blog advertised through techy channels, and compare to the norm.11:12
jendatonyyarusso: what's the conclusion?11:12
tonyyarussoAll version of Internet Explorer combined: 2.59 %11:12
tonyyarussoLeading the pack is Firefox 2.0.0.1 with 68.48%11:13
tonyyarussoMy top referrer: Planet Ubuntu of course :)11:13
jendahehe11:14
Hobbseetonyyarusso: what's the rest made up of?11:16
Hobbseeff1.5 presumably11:16
tonyyarussoHobbsee: Googlebot, technorati bot, Konqueror, Firefox 2.0.0.2, Mozilla 1.7.13, Safari 1.0b, Thunderbird 1.5.0.9, Firefox 1.5.0.9, Firefox 2.0, W3C HTML Validator 1.432.2.22, Firefox 1.011:18
Hobbseetonyyarusso: ff 2.0.0.2?11:18
tonyyarussoAnd Australia is my second largest visitor country after the US.11:18
Hobbsee:) nice11:18
tonyyarussoThat's what it says, yep11:18
=== tsmithe needs some kind of web stats thingy
tsmithewhat do you use, or is that provided by your host?11:19
tonyyarussotsmithe: I _am_ my host :)11:19
Mezkde dot news is my biggest referrer11:19
tonyyarussoIt's called SlimStat11:19
tsmithetonyyarusso, i am my host too. thanks11:19
tonyyarussoAnd oddly enough, it's not at all slim.  It had more features than the other ones :S11:20
Meztonyyarusso, I prefer technorati11:20
tsmithetonyyarusso, hehehe :)11:21
naliothbot swarms sighted11:45
Meznalioth, w00t11:47
naliothnot really11:47
Mez</sarcasm>11:47
tonyyarussoI wonder if we would gain anything with a proactive +r, since people should really register anyway...11:49
naliothjust letting you guys know . . .11:49
tonyyarussoWhat do you think Mez ?11:50
naliothi think you should wait until you see the whites of their eyes11:50
Meztonyyarusso, too much of a PITA - specially as it's an auto-join channel for default when yu go into IRC11:50
tonyyarussoAll right.11:51
Mezwhats the "please stop being abusive" factoid ?11:52
Hobbsee!abuse11:52
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:52
Hobbsee?11:52
nalioth!stop11:52
ubotuNOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.11:52
nalioth!patience11:53
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:53
Hobbseeoh yes11:53
tonyyarussoUsed that earlier today - we talked about silly putty instead11:53
Mez!abuse etc doesnt apply to -offtopic though11:53
ubotuabuse: SDL port of the Abuse action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.0-4ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 764 kB11:53
tonyyarusso...11:54
=== Mez laughs at "shoes"
Meztonyyarusso, hmm... PFA seems sspect to me11:56
tonyyarussoMez: how so?11:56
Meztonyyarusso, gut feeling11:56
Hobbseepfa's often in there11:56
Mez<PFA> I SHOULD BE IN BED FOREALZ11:57
Mez<DarthLappy> So why aren't you?11:57
Mez<PFA> DarthLappy: because you are challenged.11:57
tonyyarussoMez: She's cloaked, so not someone else11:57
elkbuntupfa used to be cool, she's literally a troll now11:57
Mezpurple felt angel.11:57
MezWhere do I know that nickname11:57
naliothbanforward her to #off-topic if she crosses the line11:57
tonyyarussosure11:58
Meznalioth, already had it queued in my buffer11:58
Hobbseeelkbuntu: why'd she turn bad?11:58
elkbuntuHobbsee, she turned into a real teenager11:59
Hobbseeahhh11:59
Mezah11:59
Mezpuberty11:59
elkbuntuHobbsee, she's 15 or 16 now iirc...11:59
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Hobbseeahhh11:59
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: 1611:59
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tonyyarussoalmost 17 I think11:59
elkbuntuso she acts like a 16yrold ;)11:59
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=== ompaul is looking at netboot stuff this morning
Hobbseehey ompaul12:01
ompaulmorning12:02
tonyyarussoWhy do wordpress themes only use the middle half of the screen...12:03
Mez"the middle half" ?12:04
Mezlmao12:04
tonyyarussoWell that's what it is...12:04
tonyyarussolike a 20% buffer on either side12:04
Mezf/w ?12:05
elkbuntutonyyarusso, because if you do themes that respect people still on 800x600, left-aligned themes look trash on screens such as 1280x1024 ;)12:05
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: ah12:05
tonyyarussolet them scale?  I dunno12:06
elkbuntutonyyarusso, fluidity is best when used on simple designs. bloggers tend to like fancy stuff12:06
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: yeah yeha12:06
Mezompaul, chill - just end the convo now12:06
Mezyou're pushing it in a bad direction12:06
Mez(IMO)12:07
tonyyarussoI think my theme is non-widget-ready12:07
ompaulit is very close to it being closed with the it is - off topic12:07
ompaulfor there12:07
ompaulthey quit12:07
Mezompaul, but if you dont get an answer then it's not12:07
Mezif you do - it forces it into being so12:07
Kamping_Kaiserompaul, what sort of netboot12:07
tonyyarusso"fluid width" - ah!12:08
ompaulKamping_Kaiser,  a funny little x86 little box on the floor here12:08
ompauls/little/like12:08
Kamping_Kaiserompaul, oh right *is a little over some types of netboot atm*12:09
ompaulwell what I want is grub and an small o/s +xserver-xorg12:10
ompaulon a CF card on an ide interface12:10
Amaranthtonyyarusso: you can only scale a layout so far before you get lines of text that are too long to comfortably read12:11
Kamping_Kaiserremote X them? wouldnt it be better to netboot properly?12:11
Mezompaul, ltsp ?12:12
ompaulltsp is the current infrastructre12:12
ompaulinfrastructure12:12
=== Mez has a great idea how to make -offtopic good
Mezinstall idleRPG on a bot in there12:14
ompaulRPG?12:15
Mezhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idle_RPG12:15
ompaulno12:16
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:16
Mezlmao - it would work though12:16
ompaulthat would be #ubuntu-playground cos some people need to talk about licences or some such12:17
Mezompaul, it wsa a joke12:17
ompaulMez, but I could see the playground working12:17
ompaul:)12:17
Hobbseehaha12:17
ompaulsend people there and they get messaged 14 screens of rules and no voice without msg the bot please voice me I'll be good12:18
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MezI can see you, your brown hair shining in the sun ...12:23
Mezgotta love the classic rock show12:23
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ompaul"Don't look back, you can never12:23
ompaullook back."12:23
Mezhttp://www.whatson.com/kerrang1052/12:24
Mezfor those who are interested in classic rock12:25
effie_jayxMez, kerrang? god that is an old mag...12:26
Mezeffie_jayx, it's still in publication :D12:26
effie_jayxwow...12:26
PriceChildMez, kerrang radio is amazing :D12:26
MezPriceChild, you listen then ?12:26
PriceChildGod yeah!12:26
MezPriceChild, were you listening this morning ?12:26
PriceChildNope :( hockey. What was mr. U Phil doing? :)12:27
ompaulthey are playing bruce springsteen - pop rock even if I may say so myself, with the risk of o fender going on :)12:27
ompaulooch wrong channel :)12:27
Meznope. the monk12:28
Mez(@ PriceChild )12:28
Mezeffie_jayx, and they have a local and national radio station#12:47
effie_jayxcool ... I remeber buying themwhen I was 1312:48
Mezeffie_jayx, means nothing if we dont know how old you are12:48
Mezyou could be 1412:48
effie_jayxlong time ago buddy12:49
Mezeffie_jayx, lol12:49
effie_jayxguns n' roses and metalica were king12:49
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Mezeffie_jayx, they still are in my eyes12:50
effie_jayxMez, but back then the status quo would agree with us...12:50
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ompauleffie_jayx, I remember a time before metallica, and antrax, however I don't remember a time before TV but I do remember before colour TV hit this island01:35
ompauland then I noted that Color television production was halted during the Korean war, with that and the lawsuits, and the sluggish sales, the CBS system failed.01:35
=== jenda remembers a time before this country knew color TV as well :)
ompauljenda, just to make it a little obvious, I am talking about the very early 70's01:41
ompauland I remember the 60's also :)01:42
jendaI know :)01:42
Amaranthwow i barely remember the 80s :P01:42
Kamping_Kaiserompaul, didnt know you were that old :|01:42
jendaBut color TVs were very, very scarce in the soviet satellite states, ompaul :)01:42
ompaulat least they were satellite capable :-) we only got that as the cold war came to an end (pun pun pun when you can)01:43
effie_jayxompaul :O01:44
Kamping_Kaiserompaul, when things started to warm up again?01:44
ompaulKamping_Kaiser, ehh golbal warming has been happening since the 70's I remember scientists talking about it then, and I remember the hole over the antartic being an issue then also01:45
ompaulit used to be in TIME mag and the like01:45
=== Kamping_Kaiser doesnt remember the 90's (as a rule)
ompaulKamping_Kaiser, they were there01:46
Kamping_Kaiserhope so, or i'm ~11 years old *grin*01:47
ompaulhehe01:47
jendaKamping_Kaiser: I often have trouble remembering back five minutes, let alone the 90s :) (although I lived almost exactly half of my life during the 90s)01:49
Kamping_Kaiserjenda, i'm in a similar position ;)01:49
Kamping_Kaisermust be all that beer ;)01:49
jendahehe :)01:50
jendaOh well, /me out again, back to legal history :/01:50
Kamping_Kaisergl :|01:50
Amaranthso far exactly half my life was in the 90s :)01:53
Amaranthyou people are old01:54
Kamping_KaiserAmaranth, :/ why, how old are you?01:55
Amaranth2001:55
Kamping_Kaiserooh, i just found a 'road to freedom is open' poster in my bag from lca :D01:55
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Amaranthif age > amaranth_age: print 'you\'re old'01:56
Kamping_KaiserAmaranth, 20 and how many months?01:56
Amaranthalmost 201:56
Kamping_Kaisergah, i'm old01:56
effie_jayxKamping_Kaiser,  I want one...02:08
effie_jayxjenda,  can I have the bif file you used to get thos posters printed...02:09
effie_jayxI'ma get some posters printed here in my country02:09
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Jucato!ntfs04:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:04
Jucato!no ntfs is <reply> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:04
ubotuI'll remember that, Jucato04:04
jendaeffie_jayx: wtf is a bif file? :)04:35
effie_jayxjenda,  sorry ... you made the highway to freedome poster... the BIG file...04:36
effie_jayxI meant04:36
jendaeffie_jayx: you can find everything there is at http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/04:36
jendaah :)04:36
jendayes, it's all there.04:36
jendaDIY Material/Posters, Batch 1 I think04:37
effie_jayxthnks jenda04:38
jendanp04:39
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SportChickwn804:39
PriceChildCan someone ban jenda please? He shouldn't be here!!!!!04:39
PriceChild:P04:39
effie_jayxlol04:48
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apokryphosack. P is just so close to J ;-)04:54
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PriceChild:)04:58
effie_jayx:S04:58
PriceChildHe's meant to be revising!!!04:58
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Meznalioth, we got a join spammer in -devel05:08
ompaulwhat is that guy doing?05:10
Mez<okaratas> mruiz, Mez join channel > #ubuntu-network please :)05:11
ompaulnoted that05:11
ompaulnow lets see what that channel is about lurk lurk05:11
MezI'm trying to find out05:11
Mez<Mez> ... ?05:11
Mez<Mez> wtf is this ?05:11
Mez<okaratas> hello Mez, in channel for technical ubuntu network05:11
Mez<Mez> ... ?05:11
Mez<Mez> which means ?05:11
Mez-ChanServ- Channel [#ubuntu-network]  is private05:11
Mez<Mez> 1) join spamming is bad05:12
Mez<Mez> 2) what the heck is this ?05:12
Mez<okaratas> I invited them to talk about ''ubuntu network. To listen what other people have to say about ''ubuntu and to chat. And I registered the channel because of that.05:12
Mez<Mez> define what you mean by "ubuntu networ05:12
Mezargh! pb script isnt woking05:12
=== Mez thinks he's just a wannabee
ompaulcollecting teams05:18
ompaulyou could not contribute to that many teams if you wanted to and have a life which you should do05:19
Mezompaul, have yuo seen my lp page ?05:19
Mez:P05:19
Mez ompaul though, mine are all sorta linked into being one thing05:21
Mezwell, one or two things05:21
ompaulMez, not that at all05:21
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Mezompaul, .... ?05:21
ompaulI can do syslinux but that is not what I want :-/05:21
Mez"not that at all"05:21
ompaulMez, I was talking about your new bestest friend :)05:22
ompauland I am going back to that kind of work I just mentioned05:22
LjLompaul, don't USB sticks sometimes tend to boot in a different ways from HDs? that is, not USB sticks themselves, but your BIOS05:22
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ompaulI got grub now I need a config file05:22
ompaulI have booted syslinux and a 2.4 kernel now I want to do some stuff with 2.5 so I have grub installed just not usefully05:23
ompauls/2.5/2.605:23
ompaulthen I will work on doing something even more evil and istalling on a flash card a really small distro and then .. well then we shall have to see05:24
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Mezompaul, definately a wannabee05:24
Mezhe's made BenC a member of 2 kernel teams05:24
LjLompaul: myself i've been fancying on making a gaming distro, very console style, that would run from multi-session CD or USB05:24
Mezoh no05:24
Mezthats benc05:25
LjLthough i don't know enough and i'm not really motivated enough05:25
Mez!seen BenC05:25
ubotuI last saw BenC (n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins) 1d 9h 3m 29s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"05:25
jendaPriceChild: I'm not here!05:30
jenda:)05:30
nixternalmentally05:30
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Mez@lart nixternal 3505:30
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Mez@lart 35 nixternal05:30
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nixternalhey, i already own the manual, no need for another one05:30
nixternal@lart Mez 34803843223532434305:31
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nixternallovely05:31
effie_jayxI have a question05:33
effie_jayxmaybe someone can help me here... I am the founder of a channel... in that channel when I Identify myself... what level do I get05:34
effie_jayx?05:34
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PriceChildeffie_jayx, if you identify to chanserv, then 5005:35
jenda5005:35
Mez3005:35
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jendaeffie_jayx: you get maximum level, no matter the number.05:35
PriceChildjenda, go away!05:35
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effie_jayxI did... but I have level 3005:35
jendathe number doesn't change.05:36
jendaYou have full, limitless access.05:36
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effie_jayxok...05:36
effie_jayxI tried lowering the access in the list and said I needed higher access level05:37
jendathen you haven't identified to chanserv.05:37
effie_jayxthe loco team contact does not use the same nick anymore... and he wishes to change it to his current nick05:38
effie_jayxjenda,  mmm let me double check but I did get a confirmation message05:38
effie_jayx-ChanServ- You already have contact access to [#ubuntu-ve] 05:38
effie_jayxI have05:39
jendatypo in the command, perhaps?05:39
apokryphosyou need to make sure you've identified with chanserv05:39
apokryphosalso, even if it says you've got five on the access list, you actually have 50 if you're channel contact05:40
effie_jayxok05:40
effie_jayxI got it ... thanks guys...05:40
effie_jayxmust have been a typo in my previous 4 atempts05:41
jenda:)05:41
Mezeffie_jayx, easy to type something wrong over and over again until it's pointed out05:42
effie_jayxMez,  lesson learned...05:44
effie_jayx:D05:44
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willys_fueguinohello everyone.... how are you in this excellent day???06:23
ompaulit appears to be not bad today being considered06:25
willys_fueguinoXDDD06:31
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gnomefreak2 frigging days and still not getting it07:14
gnomefreakapokryphos: there has got to be another way to do this07:15
LjLwhat?07:15
gnomefreakLjL: ive spent well over 24 hours downloading suse10.2 cd 107:16
LjLno torrent or something available?07:16
gnomefreakthe md5s are always for a differnt iso07:16
LjLnice07:16
gnomefreakLjL: this is the 4th time ive downloaded the same iso07:16
LjLurl?07:16
gnomefreakand for some reason md5sum says its the ppc cd 507:17
gnomefreakhttp://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version#USA07:17
Amaranthi've got a torrent for the x86 DVD07:17
gnomefreakat 7hours per download this is starting to pissme off big time07:18
Amaranthis that what you want?07:18
gnomefreakAmaranth: dvd is about 26 hour download for me07:18
Amaranthoh07:18
Amaranthcan't find torrent for CD07:18
gnomefreakthats why i went with cd cause i can break between them07:18
gnomefreaktorrents are slower than straight download07:18
Amaranthyou can pause the torrent :)07:19
gnomefreaktrue07:19
Amaranthand this thing has 2x as many seed as leech so it should max out your connection07:19
Amaranthhttp://www.mininova.org/get/50745307:19
gnomefreaklet me see if there is a dvd torrent  here07:19
gnomefreakwhats that?07:19
Amaranthx86 DVD torrent07:19
Amaranthfor opensuse 10.207:20
gnomefreakah07:20
gnomefreakok guess ill try this one07:20
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=== gnomefreak is on 10.0 beta but i here 10.1 package manager == messsed up real bad. thats keeping me from trying to upgrade it
LjLgnomefreak: your bandwidth?07:21
gnomefreakslow07:22
gnomefreaklol07:22
gnomefreakLjL: not sure07:22
LjLwell i'm downloading at 930kbytes/s, so i guess i can tell you pretty soon what my MD5 looks like07:22
gnomefreakLjL: mine is at 26ish kbps on dsl lite07:23
LjLnasssty07:23
gnomefreakyou can see why it takes me 7-8 hours to download 688 mb07:23
gnomefreakgive or take07:23
gnomefreaktorrents at about 10kbps :(07:23
LjLgnomefreak: i suppose suse doesn't have some kind of netinstall cd07:24
gnomefreakyep they do but i havent yet heard a good thing about it07:24
gnomefreaktorrets at about 20-25 kbps (10 was the average07:25
apokryphosno need to use torrents or the http/ftp links07:30
apokryphosuse metalinks :)07:30
apokryphosI guarantee it'll max out your connection :P07:30
=== gnomefreak doesnt know what a meta link is but either way 27 kbps is about the highest mine will get :( still pissed off 24 hours worth of downloading and the md5 matchs ppc
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apokryphosgnomefreak: rsync can fix md5sum errors07:32
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apokryphosno need to re-download :P07:32
gnomefreakstill would have to download the other 4cds at best 2 more07:33
apokryphosnope, only 3. Anyhow, msg :P07:33
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LjLgnomefreak: i had to go for dinner but... i downloaded the CD, the md5 matches09:10
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tonyyarussoLjL: gnewsense?09:39
LjLno tonyyarusso SUSE09:39
tonyyarussoah09:40
LjLgnomefreak was having problem getting the CD to download09:40
DBOping nalioth09:53
SportChicknalioth is sleeping10:00
PriceChildhehe :)10:01
jendaDBO: but you've got a plethora of staff to choose from, if that's what you're looking for :)10:02
DBOyou are freenode staff right10:03
DBOrespond to beryls request for a cloak darnit!10:03
=== Pricey highfives DBO
jendahehe :)10:03
DBOwe put it in MONTHS ago10:03
jendaDBO: I waited half a year for my tapthru group :)10:04
tonyyarussoThat is a little ridiculous10:04
Pricey:O10:04
jendadon't worry, I'll try and push it.10:04
DBOjust a bit10:04
jendahehe10:04
DBOthere might be 2 in there by now10:05
jendaDBO: cloaks aren't really the most important thing there is :)10:05
jendaCool - no problem.10:05
DBOno its not =P  but it would be nice10:05
jendaI'll do my best.10:06
DBOand your site does say the squeeky wheel gets the oil =P10:06
DBOso I am here to squeak at you10:06
DBO=P10:06
jendaI'm relaying :)10:06
jendaShopping for oil, that is.10:06
=== apokryphos coughs, too :P
jendaapokryphos: WHAT?10:07
jendayou aren't sorted yet? :)10:07
jendaWhat was that, kvirc?10:07
apokryphosindeed :)10:07
=== jenda notes :)
apokryphosok, out for now10:10
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tonyyarusso!-universe10:51
ubotuuniverse is <alias> repos - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:54:0510:51
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=== tonyyarusso cries a little - see -classroom
LjLyou don't have *nearly* as much of a reason to cry as i do11:24
joejaxxwhy?11:24
LjLbecause11:24
LjLactually, i'll take my own reason away in a simple fashion11:24
joejaxxno i mean why is everyone crying?11:25
tonyyarussojoejaxx: I don't know about LjL, but we have a new user who wants a program that would require a) compiling, b) using build-deps from feisty.11:26
joejaxxoh wow11:26
joejaxxwhat application is that?11:26
tonyyarussojoejaxx: idjc - "Internet DJ Console"11:27
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joejaxxhello maxamillion11:36
maxamillionhi hi11:37
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gnomefreakif i stop a torrent can change OS' and it start were it left off. or will i have to start over?12:07
tonyyarussoShould resume.12:07
gnomefreak6 hours for 70 mb i hope it resumes12:08
tonyyarussoeep12:08
gnomefreak3.61 gigs total12:09
tonyyarussodialup?12:09
gnomefreakdsl lite12:09
elkbuntuis that a way of saying 'dialup with a different name'?12:09
tonyyarussokinda12:10
gnomefreaklol12:10
gnomefreakits a little faster than dialup12:10
elkbuntugnomefreak, it'd probably be quicker for me to download and post it to you, all the way from australia :12:10
gnomefreakelkbuntu: prolly would but i would still have to download it from there ;)12:11
elkbuntugnomefreak, um.. i mean.. me downloady, me burny to cd.. me sendy12:11
elkbuntus/cd/dvd/12:11
tonyyarussoErr, who's a developer with a moment?  :)12:11
gnomefreaksee i dont think ktorrent will continue it becasue im not sure where the temp files are kept12:12
gnomefreaki had thought about having someone do it close by but hell i can buy it for 10 dollars12:12
elkbuntuprobably worth your sanity12:13
elkbuntuthe remaining shreds of such, anyway12:13
gnomefreakso true12:13
gnomefreak2 days now trying to get this damn distro up and running12:14
gnomefreak- up and running + downloading12:14
apokryphosgnomefreak: whenever you have problems, just let me know :P12:15
gnomefreakapokryphos: having issues12:15
gnomefreaklol12:15
tonyyarussoWe have a user in -classroom who wants to install idjc on Edgy.  It's in Feisty repos, but not Edgy.  I thought we could get -dev packages from Feisty and work from there, but it seems to be demanding upgrading libc6-i686....which scares me way more than a little.  Guidance?12:16
elkbuntutonyyarusso, can you please go to my blog and tell me if it looks like it used to or if it looks like i had it last night...?12:19
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: dont upgrade libc6 for any reason12:19
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: I don't really remember which is which, but it has the title in upper right kinda orangy, then a grey box of Wikipedia, and the About link looks lonesome.12:20
elkbuntuok then.. WHAT THE F***12:20
tonyyarussognomefreak: Yeah, that's what I figured.  Is there another way to do this, or do we have to tell him to wait four months?12:20
elkbuntuthe dns on two domains in two seperate registrars, has reverted12:21
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: if it depends on libc6/glibc no other than upgrading full system12:21
gnomefreakupgrading libc6 will trash everything12:21
tonyyarussoNo way to kind of build it with a new version without that actually being what's on the system eh?  Nuts.12:21
=== tonyyarusso suspected as much, but likes to double-check before bearing bad news
Priceytonyyarusso, what about getting the source and building it yourself?12:22
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: not worth it12:22
Priceytonyyarusso, it doesn't actually depend on feisty's higher version of it does it?12:22
Priceys/yourself/himself/12:22
gnomefreakwhat is the package?12:23
gnomefreakcrap12:23
tonyyarussoPricey: gnomefreak: I was basing depends off of http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/idjc12:23
gnomefreakhold that thought for a bit12:23
tonyyarussoAnd apt-get build-dep agreed12:23
tonyyarussoWhether it's different if you don't use repos stuff at all, I don't know.12:23
Priceytonyyarusso, yeah but that only tells you what it was built with and therefore depends on in feisty.... getting the source and building that himself should be perfectly fine12:23
gnomefreakwhat version libc6 doess edgy have?12:24
tonyyarussoPricey: hmm...  So we could apt-get source the package from Feisty and go from there perhaps?12:24
gnomefreak<2.5?12:24
tonyyarusso!libc6 edgy12:24
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9992 kB12:24
Priceytonyyarusso, I "think" :)12:24
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: dont do it :)12:24
tonyyarussognomefreak: That bad eh?12:24
Priceytonyyarusso, the only way we could ever have a problem with this is if it actually requires a libc6 of a certain version.... or am I very, very wrong?12:25
gnomefreakatleast warn him libc6 wrong version can leave linux usless and i mean even apt will fail12:25
Priceygnomefreak, but there's no need to upgrade libc6 if he builds the other package from source?12:25
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gnomefreakPricey: he would have to change the depends of it. if he does it the right way. but even compiling will error if wrong libc6 is used12:26
Priceygnomefreak, hmm... what about getting the package from upstream instead then?12:26
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gnomefreakonly way i can think of to safely do it without upgrading distro. is to rebuild it in pbuilder change the control file depends and hope its not a chain of depends. the upstream version you would have to read to find out12:28
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