[12:44] <jenda> Where's tonyyarusso... I want to talk to tonyyarusso.
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> jenda: present
[12:44] <jenda> YAARGH!
[12:44] <jenda> Great quiz, sir ;)
[12:45] <jenda> totally funky ;)
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> Thanks!
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> I had fun, I know that much.
[12:45] <somerville32> Did it just occur?
[12:46] <jenda> somerville32: yup, a few hours back.
[12:46] <somerville32> Doh.
[12:46] <jenda> mc44 is teh victor
[12:46] <somerville32> Lets do it again just for fun ;] 
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> lol
[12:48] <jenda> somerville32: I'll be doing one next week.
[12:48] <jenda> I hope.
[12:49] <somerville32> You should get more advertising
[12:49] <somerville32> But then again, maybe you did
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> I spammed all three offtopic channels
[12:52] <somerville32> txt my cell, haha
[12:56] <jenda> tonyyarusso: you can gently spam #ubuntu, as well. It's the one where you catch most of the population ;)
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> jenda: True.
[12:59] <LjL> i'd love if people wouldn't have nicks such as "torrrrrrrr", not to mention all-uppercase ones
[12:59] <LjL> i can't see if the channel is being spammed or what
[12:59] <mc44> says the man with 67% uppercase nick
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> lol
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> or rather, LoL
[01:00] <LjL> mc44, don't be stupid now
[01:00] <LjL> it's 66.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666%
[01:00] <LjL> give or take some floating point precision
[01:01] <jenda> It's actually 2/3
[01:01] <LjL> jenda: i don't deal with quantities that my CPU doesn't represent
[01:02] <jenda> I'm sorry for you.
[01:04] <PriceChild> jenda, - I missed the quiz :(
[01:04] <jenda> PriceChild: so did I
[01:16] <jenda> tonyyarusso: actually... the quiz was very inspiring :)
[01:16] <jenda> tonyyarusso: the theme wasn't in the questions... it was in the answers :-D
[01:16] <jenda> brilliant :)
[01:17] <somerville32> Can I see?
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> jenda: I thought it was clever
[01:18] <jenda> somerville32: http://pastebin.com/868900
[01:18] <jenda> tonyyarusso: thanks - if you ever feel like it again, feel free to speak up :)
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> jenda: sure
[01:19] <jenda> We need more quizmasters - it's almost solely theCore doing it.
[01:19] <LjL> !ops-#kubuntu
[01:19] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[01:19] <jenda> ANd we need more sponsors - I can't afford to pay it for ever :)
[01:19] <somerville32> Jenda: I'll sponsor
[01:19] <DBO> damn you LjL
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> I know....
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> darn triggers
[01:20] <LjL> sorry DBO, but i don't yet feel like i can act as a 100% #kubuntu op
[01:20] <jenda> somerville32: cool :)
[01:20] <jenda> somerville32: what's the prize?
[01:20] <DBO> LjL, I feel the same kinda still =.
[01:20] <DBO> =/
[01:20] <DBO> I tend to wait for the more clear cut cases in there
[01:20] <LjL> DBO: well, my "nazi" hl was triggered... twice
[01:20] <jenda> somerville32: if you can't think of anytihng, you can always donate $3 for a pack of stickers :)
[01:20] <LjL> and just above there was socialism and zionism
[01:21] <somerville32> Jenda: I'll give you money
[01:21] <DBO> LjL, good idea, highlighting nazi
[01:21] <LjL> willys_fueguino, public away messages are kind of annoying tbh...
[01:21] <jenda> somerville32: cool - I'll file it on the next available quiz - two weeks from now, I thin.
[01:21] <jenda> k
[01:21] <somerville32> Tell me when you want money, I shall send it
[01:21] <jenda> feel free to send that at any point later.
[01:21] <jenda> cool.
[01:21] <willys_fueguino> LjL: sorry for that I was making a point for someone
[01:21] <willys_fueguino> :-\
[01:22] <jenda> Good night y'all.
[01:22] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, omgz, that waz brilliant! :)
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> :)
[01:23] <willys_fueguino> jenda: niight
[01:23] <willys_fueguino> sleep well
[01:23] <LjL> kubuntu ops... please
[01:23] <LjL> i don't know what to do now
[01:24] <jenda> LjL: if no channel ops are aroun...
[01:24] <LjL> distro-tester just asked me to "finish his conversation" with minuwhatever
[01:24] <jenda> ...ask the staf :)
[01:24] <LjL> i told him to do that in private
[01:24] <LjL> jenda, i'm a #kubuntu op for that matter, technically
[01:24] <jenda> LjL: oh, ok.
[01:24] <LjL> besides now i've got that obnoxious italian in a query... blah
[01:25] <LjL> jenda: i'm just not comfortable with taking actions other than blatant-abuse-bans on there
[01:26] <LjL> and he knows /whois too, argh, and he's on the same isp as me, argh, i'll have to pull the network cable
[01:27] <jenda> hehe
[01:27] <jenda> oh well, I'll sleep on it, and think about helping you out tomorrow, how's that, LjL? :)
[01:27] <LjL> sounds... good >:
[01:31] <willys_fueguino> hahahah
[01:31] <willys_fueguino> I thought that ppl were more "serious" overhere...
[01:31] <willys_fueguino> :-P
[01:32] <LjL> i'm totally serious, i'm not comfortable with people on my NAT talking about sensitive political opinions and querying me in italian
[01:32] <DBO> you're so cuddly LjL
[01:33] <willys_fueguino> cuddly??
[01:33] <LjL> ...
[01:33] <willys_fueguino> "sensitive political opinions"... hows that??
[01:34] <LjL> ahum
[01:34] <LjL> he claimed he's a nazi, if i got it right. twice. once on -offtopic and then now in #kubuntu
[01:34] <LjL> actually, this is a connection reset by peer for a couple of minutes
[01:35] <willys_fueguino> ufff....
[01:35] <willys_fueguino> and you are jewish LjL??
[01:35] <DBO> what does that have to do with anything?
[01:36] <willys_fueguino> I can't understand how does that affects him...
[01:37] <DBO> because nazi's A) are not on topic
[01:37] <DBO> and B) are not on topic
[01:37] <willys_fueguino> anyway... a nazi is an ignorant people who doesn't even deserves to be noticed...
[01:37] <DBO> incorrect
[01:37] <DBO> they should be noticed hanging from a tree
[01:38] <DBO> anyhow
[01:38] <willys_fueguino> DBO: he said that he did it on #offtopic and then on #kubuntu
[01:38] <DBO> yes
[01:38] <willys_fueguino> DBO: :-O
[01:38] <DBO> #kubuntu is the issue
[01:38] <willys_fueguino> rofl!!
[01:38] <willys_fueguino> DBO: yeap... thats the issue...
[01:38] <willys_fueguino> but anyway...
[01:39] <willys_fueguino> I respect what anyyone believe...
[01:39] <willys_fueguino> *anyone
[01:39] <willys_fueguino> even if its inmoral or even suicide...
[01:40] <willys_fueguino> I don't care..
[01:41] <LjL-Temp> gee, i didn't time out *yet*
[01:41] <LjL-Temp> freenode is crazy
[01:41] <jenda> Freenode is perfect. There is no Cabal, and we've always been at war with Oceania.
[01:42] <willys_fueguino> jenda: wth??!! xDDDD
[01:43] <willys_fueguino> "we've always been at war with Oceania."
[01:43] <willys_fueguino> where are you from jenda??
[01:43] <LjL> willys_fueguino: obscure quote...
[01:43] <jenda> Czech Republic, willys_fueguino - and it's a quote from Orwell's 1984
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Not that obscure
[01:44] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[01:44] <jenda> I'll try not to be around tomorrow.
[01:44] <jenda> But you know me.
[01:45] <willys_fueguino> I think that I saw some czech womens and they are extremely bautiful... Is that correct jenda??
[01:45] <LjL> ahem
[01:45] <jenda> haha
[01:45] <jenda> willys_fueguino: slightly off-topic, sorry :)
[01:45] <willys_fueguino> ups...
[01:45] <jenda> and it's an urban myth of course.
[01:45] <jenda> don't you dare touch our chicks ;)
[01:46] <willys_fueguino> sorry bout that (but you didn't answer not even on private)
[01:46] <willys_fueguino> XDDDDD
[01:46] <tsmithe> it's not at all obscure
[01:46] <tsmithe> (and it's a wonderful book)
[01:46] <LjL> ok, not everyone is a native english speaker, and it *can* be a tad obscure if you aren't one
[01:47] <tsmithe> yeah
[01:47] <LjL> and i did read 1984 ftr
[01:47] <tsmithe> but it's still pretty much ubiquitous nonetheless
[01:47] <tsmithe> that is *the* book
[01:48] <LjL> i'm sure i could quote you some Dante that you haven't heard... anyway. </offtopic>
[01:49] <LjL> nalioth, how away are you?
[01:50] <willys_fueguino> hahaha
[01:50] <willys_fueguino> I'll write down that phrase to use it XDDD
[01:52] <willys_fueguino> theres no #ubuntu-ops-offtopic??
[01:52] <willys_fueguino> Oh... you use ubuntu-offtopic right??
[01:52] <LjL> yup
[01:53] <LjL> there is no cabal, you see :P
[02:03] <willys_fueguino> uffff
[02:04] <willys_fueguino> Is there a translator bot over here??
[02:04] <willys_fueguino> 'cause I could use one
[02:04] <willys_fueguino> :-P
[02:04] <LjL> willys_fueguino: not that i know of
[02:04] <LjL> automatic translators are terrible anyway
[02:05] <LjL> !rbot | willys_fueguino
[02:05] <ubotu> rbot: IRC bot written in ruby. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 584 kB
[02:05] <LjL> claims to have translation from babelfish
[02:05] <willys_fueguino> LjL: I had one... (L_Torvalds) that had that functionality...
[02:05] <willys_fueguino> I have to install it again..
[02:06] <willys_fueguino> but I don't know if I'm aloud to bring it over here...
[02:06] <PriceChild> L_torvalds.... I remember that bot from somewhere which isn't good...
[02:06] <LjL> willys_fueguino: in this channel, no, i'm afraid not
[02:07] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: I had a few problems with it on #ubuntu-es I think...
[02:07] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, yes....
[02:07] <PriceChild> I had to teach the channel owner how to get rid of the bot because it was opped and de-opping anyone that tried to op
[02:08] <PriceChild> That wasn't fun
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> whast the point in the | with the bot? it just dumps it in the channel anyway
[02:08] <willys_fueguino> It kept joining to that channel and it was doing something wrong...
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: hilights the target
[02:08] <PriceChild> Kamping_Kaiser, pings the user its directed to
[02:08] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: no
[02:08] <PriceChild> !test| Kamping_Kaiser
[02:08] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Failed.
[02:08] <PriceChild> like so :)
[02:08] <willys_fueguino> L_Torvalds is the op on #ubuntu-lat
[02:09] <PriceChild> you can also use >'s instead to send it via pm...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> but anytime you use a persons nick it does that. why not !fact >user?
[02:09] <willys_fueguino> but it wasn't configured *yet*
[02:09] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, either way you shouldn't have bots ont he ops list
[02:09] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: is to kick people "easier"
[02:09] <LjL> Kamping_Kaiser, i'll dig you the wishlist report as for the reasons i gave for it
[02:10] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, bad practice if you ask me... L_Torvalds got a channel stuck with the ops having no access whatso ever
[02:10] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: as an example... the channel owner can't use chanserv he only uses the bot :-P
[02:10] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, yes but what about the other ops#?
[02:10] <LjL> Kamping_Kaiser: basically anyway, 1) a lot of people don't understand they have private messages, and you always end up repeating the same spam *twice* to get the point across 2) what the bugreport says
[02:10] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, a user was spamming and the ops couldn't do a thing about it
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> LjL, ah, 1 makes sense, thats tru eenough
[02:11] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: some of them can... but at that time was only present dthe channel owner I think
[02:11] <LjL> Kamping_Kaiser: bug 67161
[02:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67161 in ubuntu-bots "Wish for ability to invoke factoids on a channel, while addressing to specific users" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67161
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks.
[02:11] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, I still maintain its a VERY bad idea to have bots with ops... nevermind with access
[02:12] <PriceChild> And I'm sure someone here will back me up on that...
[02:12] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: but why is that??
[02:12] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, because of problems like the one that I had to deal with
[02:12] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, and also if there are vulnerabilities int he bot which you don't know about... malicious persons could use it against you
[02:13] <PriceChild> etc. etc.
[02:13] <PriceChild> There is absolutely no reason why a bot needs ops.... your ops should be doing any kicking/banning IMO
[02:15] <willys_fueguino> :-\
[02:15] <willys_fueguino> good points...
[02:16] <willys_fueguino> anyway...
[02:16] <willys_fueguino> I think its kinda faster to use the bot...
[02:16] <PriceChild> yes anyway... I'm off to bed
[02:16] <PriceChild> Enjoy yourself :)
[02:16] <willys_fueguino> ahahaah
[02:16] <willys_fueguino> sleep well
[02:17] <willys_fueguino> good night PriceChild
[02:49] <nalioth> LjL: back
[02:49] <willys_fueguino> Its hard to become an ubuntu member??
[02:51] <nalioth> just contribute to Ubuntu, willys_fueguino
[02:52] <willys_fueguino> ufff.... easy to say...
[02:52] <willys_fueguino> just to "contribute" you have fill a form and pray to get accepted...
[02:52] <willys_fueguino> I want to contribute as a translator (I think thats the only good thing that I can do)
[02:53] <willys_fueguino> I contributed with the project "upstream" with a translation :-P
[02:55] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: what other way should I have to contribute if I dont know how to program and I am "really" bad with draws??
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> Form?  I never filled in any form.
[02:55] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: there are numbers of ways you can get involved
[02:56] <rob> willys_fueguino: can you describe and document software?
[02:56] <rob> willys_fueguino: try contributing to documentation
[02:58] <willys_fueguino> rob: I think I could... my spanish spelling its almost "perfect"
[02:58] <willys_fueguino> and I can understand pretty well the english...
[02:58] <willys_fueguino> I was thinking to contribute to the wikis...
[02:58] <rob> that's another good way, translations
[02:58] <willys_fueguino> there are no spanish wikis on help.ubuntu
[02:58] <willys_fueguino> or ubuntu.com
[02:59] <rob> you can translate official docs and software
[02:59] <rob> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+translations
[03:00] <willys_fueguino> rob: but I have to join the translators team
[03:00] <willys_fueguino> and wait to them to accept me
[03:00] <rob> make an account using the link at the top right, then go back to that page and go for it, everything you do increases your karma on Launchpad (which is what Ubuntu uses to organise everything)
[03:01] <willys_fueguino> i have an account...
[03:01] <rob> willys_fueguino: join the translations team channel and ask them to approve you, should be pretty quick
[03:01] <willys_fueguino> today I were helping LjL with the dcc bug wiki
[03:01] <willys_fueguino> (my first contribution I think)
[03:02] <willys_fueguino> That's considered a contribution?
[03:02] <rob> be sure to document everything you do on your wiki home page on wiki.ubuntu.com (same username as your launchpad account)
[03:02] <rob> yes, everything counts
[03:02] <willys_fueguino> I don't have a wiki page yet...
[03:02] <willys_fueguino> :-P
[03:03] <rob> when you have a decent list of contributions, then put your name with a link to that page on the Ubuntu meeting agenda wiki page, and be sure to attend the next meeting
[03:03] <willys_fueguino> ufff....
[03:03] <willys_fueguino> thats a little scary
[03:04] <willys_fueguino> :-
[03:04] <rob> nah, its all good
[03:04] <rob> they are nice :D
[03:04] <willys_fueguino> I don't like to be exposed in front of the "bosses"...
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> :-\
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> hahahahah
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> rob: are you one of them??
[03:05] <rob> no
[03:05] <rob> I am a member though
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> rob: thats what I was talking about...
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> hows that launchpad-ubuntu are world wide and those pages don't have spanish translations???
[03:06] <willys_fueguino> There's lots of people who can't even ask freenode staffers to do x thing 'cause most staffers speak english...
[03:07] <willys_fueguino> I can "handle" it... but many people don't
[03:07] <rob> not sure, but you could take the lead if translations for that language don't exist, which would be looked upon very favourably (imo) when going for membership
[03:07] <willys_fueguino> :-\
[03:07] <LjL> hm, sure launchpad itself supports that?
[03:07] <rob> supports what?
[03:07] <LjL> translations of its own site
[03:08] <rob> oh, umm I'm not sure why it wouldn't (I was referring to Ubuntu translations), ask in #launchpad if you want
[03:09] <willys_fueguino> rob: :-D
[03:09] <willys_fueguino> you r giving hope to a poor argentinian guy that wannabe a programmer
[03:09] <willys_fueguino> :-P
[03:11] <willys_fueguino> uh?! spanish ubuntu translation isn't finished yet??!
[03:11] <willys_fueguino> 8-O
[03:23] <nixternal> rob: ##chicago -> #ubuntu-chicago ? :)
[03:23] <nalioth> who owns ##chicago?
[03:23] <nixternal> me
[03:24] <nalioth> nixternal: you can forward your channels anywhere you like
[03:24] <rob> I guess, not really the same thing though
[03:24] <nixternal> orly
[03:24] <nalioth> no, ##chicago is not #ubuntu-chicago
[03:43] <willys_fueguino> rob: some of those who proposed to be ubuntu-spanish translators have been waiting for a loooooooong time...
[03:45] <rob> willys_fueguino: try https://translations.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es
[03:46] <willys_fueguino> I'll try...
[06:36] <Mez> Amaranth, you been playing with realistanew?
[08:05] <elkbuntu> you didnt need to remove the cable... guys
[08:05] <elkbuntu> s/guys/guy
[08:06] <Mez> they were both causing trouble... fair treatment to all... it was just a "look, calm down" remove
 Alpha232, shut up, because I'm right! apt-get install apache source, OR aptitude install apache source will get you 2 packages: apache and source
[08:11] <elkbuntu> ah, i iddnt see that oen
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> It posted it posted
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> (see ubotu in -offtopic)
[08:14] <Mez> tonyyarusso, ?
[08:19] <Amaranth> Mez: working on the code for it locally
[08:19] <Mez> Amaranth, ah tis ok - my servers been hicupping a lot today
[08:19] <Mez> was looking for someone to blame
[08:19] <Amaranth> heh
[08:19] <Amaranth> never me :)
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Can auto_sev_bleh.pl take multiple nicks as arguments?
[08:24] <Mez> no
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> dang
[10:02] <Seveas> If ubotu goes down, it can't come back up until I fix the code
[10:02] <Seveas> which is rather imposible to do now, because I'm flying to geneva in a few hours
[10:02] <maxamillion> Seveas: good to know ... anyone have a backup bot?
[10:03] <Seveas> ljl has ubotwo
[10:03] <maxamillion> awesome
[10:03] <maxamillion> well ... i must go to sleep, i have work tomorrow
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Is there a reason to expect it to go down?
[10:04] <Seveas> no
[10:04] <Seveas> but shit happens :)
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> gotcha
[10:05] <nalioth> Seveas: you are having that much of a desire for chocolate?
[10:05] <Seveas> heh
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> I would
[10:05] <Seveas> no, it's Ubuntu related :)
[10:05] <nalioth> chocolate covered Ubuntu ?
[10:05] <Seveas> yum!
[10:07] <Seveas> I'll be in geneva until feb. 8, and should come back as Ubuntu Certified Professional :)
[10:10] <Seveas> nalioth, most likely not :)
[10:12] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, it probably requires you to actually know stuff... so im ruled out already ;)
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: lol.
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> The question is, what stuff?  (ie, I wonder what I would score..)
[10:13] <elkbuntu> Seveas can tell you when he returns
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> yup
[10:13] <Seveas> :)
[10:14] <nalioth> it's all an excuse to go chocolate hunting and gathering
[10:14] <elkbuntu> nalioth, of course
[10:14] <elkbuntu> send postcards, Seveas :
[10:14] <Amaranth> Question 1 (2 points): What is sabdfl's date of birth and favorite colour?
[10:14] <nalioth> chocolate postcards
[10:14] <Seveas> hehe
[10:14] <Amaranth> it just gets more invasive from there
[10:15] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, question 2 (the other 98 points): What color underwear is sabdfl wearing right now?
[10:15] <Amaranth> I got an A+ ;)
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> ...
[10:20] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: Don't worry, I won't tell everyone about the A you got. Can't believe you missed question 1
[10:24] <elkbuntu> and question 2 becomes a trick question on the days he goes jockless
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> aaaah
[10:25] <Mez> It's disturbing me
[10:26] <Mez> and not in a good way
[10:29] <elkbuntu> gah, i hate coming from cmd line to irc.. i try tab-complete everything
[10:29] <Mez> elkbuntu, I'm sure you enjoyed the mental imagery ;)
[10:29] <Mez> elkbuntu, me too ;)
[10:29] <Mez> just like - ran<tab> wo<tab>
[10:30] <elkbuntu> Mez, to be honest, he's not *that* good looking, so no, not particuarly
[10:30] <Mez> elkbuntu, lol - well you werent disturbed by it at least
[10:30] <elkbuntu> Mez, then again, i prefer the thought of nekkid men to nekkid women ;)

 so ... i love hearing things through the grapevine
[10:32] <Mez> apparently, I'm up for .... i was going to say promotion, but i'll say pay rise instead... at work
[10:32] <Mez> it's technically a demotion
[10:32] <Mez> or is it
[10:33] <Mez> lets call it a sidestep with pay rise
[10:37] <Seveas> pay rise is good
[10:43] <elkbuntu> having a job is good. :(
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Is there a better way to get http://phpxref.com/xref/wordpress/nav.html.gz?index.html.gz than to copy-paste and then delete all the line numbers?
[10:47] <elkbuntu> line numbers? im seeing a directory in frames
[10:47] <elkbuntu> [164 lines]   <-- or is this what ytou mean?
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: click around to any file in the dir
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> I need actual source text of some of these
[10:49] <Mez> Seveas, 40% pay rise ;)
[10:49] <Seveas> that's ..... insane :)
[10:49] <Seveas> heh
[10:49] <nalioth> better than ordering a barber
[10:49] <Mez> Seveas, indeed, but uber :D (40% once I've completed my training!)
[10:50] <Mez> nalioth their words were "we cant force you to cut it off - but we'd like it if you did! but - at least wear it in a pony tail"
[10:51] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, im still not sure what you're talkign about so im going to say 'dunno'
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> k
[10:53] <Mez> ;)
[10:53] <jenda> good morning
[10:53] <Hobbsee> morning jenda!
[10:54] <Mez> and dont kick me for that jenda :P
[10:54] <Mez> it ws typed
[10:55] <jenda> /cs k M... ah, ok.
[11:07] <stylus> :) hai jenda, nalioth
[11:08] <Mez> yay
[11:08] <Mez> I can now cook safely
[11:08] <jenda> hehe
[11:08] <jenda> Mez: did they cut power?
[11:11] <Mez> jenda, no - I found somewhere that sells the right light bulbs
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> lol...
[11:12] <jenda> hehe
[11:12] <jenda> Did they explode before? )
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> If you ever want to amuse yourself, collect client stats on a blog advertised through techy channels, and compare to the norm.
[11:12] <jenda> tonyyarusso: what's the conclusion?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> All version of Internet Explorer combined: 2.59 %
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> Leading the pack is Firefox 2.0.0.1 with 68.48%
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> My top referrer: Planet Ubuntu of course :)
[11:14] <jenda> hehe
[11:16] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: what's the rest made up of?
[11:16] <Hobbsee> ff1.5 presumably
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: Googlebot, technorati bot, Konqueror, Firefox 2.0.0.2, Mozilla 1.7.13, Safari 1.0b, Thunderbird 1.5.0.9, Firefox 1.5.0.9, Firefox 2.0, W3C HTML Validator 1.432.2.22, Firefox 1.0
[11:18] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: ff 2.0.0.2?
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> And Australia is my second largest visitor country after the US.
[11:18] <Hobbsee> :) nice
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> That's what it says, yep
[11:19] <tsmithe> what do you use, or is that provided by your host?
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> tsmithe: I _am_ my host :)
[11:19] <Mez> kde dot news is my biggest referrer
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> It's called SlimStat
[11:19] <tsmithe> tonyyarusso, i am my host too. thanks
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> And oddly enough, it's not at all slim.  It had more features than the other ones :S
[11:20] <Mez> tonyyarusso, I prefer technorati
[11:21] <tsmithe> tonyyarusso, hehehe :)
[11:45] <nalioth> bot swarms sighted
[11:47] <Mez> nalioth, w00t
[11:47] <nalioth> not really

[11:49] <tonyyarusso> I wonder if we would gain anything with a proactive +r, since people should really register anyway...
[11:49] <nalioth> just letting you guys know . . .
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> What do you think Mez ?
[11:50] <nalioth> i think you should wait until you see the whites of their eyes
[11:50] <Mez> tonyyarusso, too much of a PITA - specially as it's an auto-join channel for default when yu go into IRC
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> All right.
[11:52] <Mez> whats the "please stop being abusive" factoid ?
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !abuse
[11:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:52] <Hobbsee> ?
[11:52] <nalioth> !stop
[11:52] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[11:53] <nalioth> !patience
[11:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:53] <Hobbsee> oh yes
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> Used that earlier today - we talked about silly putty instead
[11:53] <Mez> !abuse etc doesnt apply to -offtopic though
[11:53] <ubotu> abuse: SDL port of the Abuse action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.0-4ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 764 kB
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> ...
[11:56] <Mez> tonyyarusso, hmm... PFA seems sspect to me
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> Mez: how so?
[11:56] <Mez> tonyyarusso, gut feeling
[11:56] <Hobbsee> pfa's often in there
 I SHOULD BE IN BED FOREALZ
 So why aren't you?
 DarthLappy: because you are challenged.
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> Mez: She's cloaked, so not someone else
[11:57] <elkbuntu> pfa used to be cool, she's literally a troll now
[11:57] <Mez> purple felt angel.
[11:57] <Mez> Where do I know that nickname
[11:57] <nalioth> banforward her to #off-topic if she crosses the line
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> sure
[11:58] <Mez> nalioth, already had it queued in my buffer
[11:58] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: why'd she turn bad?
[11:59] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, she turned into a real teenager
[11:59] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[11:59] <Mez> ah
[11:59] <Mez> puberty
[11:59] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, she's 15 or 16 now iirc...
[11:59] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: 16
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> almost 17 I think
[11:59] <elkbuntu> so she acts like a 16yrold ;)
[12:01] <Hobbsee> hey ompaul
[12:02] <ompaul> morning
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> Why do wordpress themes only use the middle half of the screen...
[12:04] <Mez> "the middle half" ?
[12:04] <Mez> lmao
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> Well that's what it is...
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> like a 20% buffer on either side
[12:05] <Mez> f/w ?
[12:05] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, because if you do themes that respect people still on 800x600, left-aligned themes look trash on screens such as 1280x1024 ;)
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: ah
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> let them scale?  I dunno
[12:06] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, fluidity is best when used on simple designs. bloggers tend to like fancy stuff
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: yeah yeha
[12:06] <Mez> ompaul, chill - just end the convo now
[12:06] <Mez> you're pushing it in a bad direction
[12:07] <Mez> (IMO)
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> I think my theme is non-widget-ready
[12:07] <ompaul> it is very close to it being closed with the it is - off topic
[12:07] <ompaul> for there
[12:07] <ompaul> they quit
[12:07] <Mez> ompaul, but if you dont get an answer then it's not
[12:07] <Mez> if you do - it forces it into being so
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, what sort of netboot
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> "fluid width" - ah!
[12:08] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser,  a funny little x86 little box on the floor here
[12:08] <ompaul> s/little/like
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, oh right *is a little over some types of netboot atm*
[12:10] <ompaul> well what I want is grub and an small o/s +xserver-xorg
[12:10] <ompaul> on a CF card on an ide interface
[12:11] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: you can only scale a layout so far before you get lines of text that are too long to comfortably read
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> remote X them? wouldnt it be better to netboot properly?
[12:12] <Mez> ompaul, ltsp ?
[12:12] <ompaul> ltsp is the current infrastructre
[12:12] <ompaul> infrastructure
[12:14] <Mez> install idleRPG on a bot in there
[12:15] <ompaul> RPG?
[12:15] <Mez> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idle_RPG
[12:16] <ompaul> no
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[12:16] <Mez> lmao - it would work though
[12:17] <ompaul> that would be #ubuntu-playground cos some people need to talk about licences or some such
[12:17] <Mez> ompaul, it wsa a joke
[12:17] <ompaul> Mez, but I could see the playground working
[12:17] <ompaul> :)
[12:17] <Hobbsee> haha
[12:18] <ompaul> send people there and they get messaged 14 screens of rules and no voice without msg the bot please voice me I'll be good
[12:23] <Mez> I can see you, your brown hair shining in the sun ...
[12:23] <Mez> gotta love the classic rock show
[12:23] <ompaul> "Don't look back, you can never
[12:23] <ompaul> look back."
[12:24] <Mez> http://www.whatson.com/kerrang1052/
[12:25] <Mez> for those who are interested in classic rock
[12:26] <effie_jayx> Mez, kerrang? god that is an old mag...
[12:26] <Mez> effie_jayx, it's still in publication :D
[12:26] <effie_jayx> wow...
[12:26] <PriceChild> Mez, kerrang radio is amazing :D
[12:26] <Mez> PriceChild, you listen then ?
[12:26] <PriceChild> God yeah!
[12:26] <Mez> PriceChild, were you listening this morning ?
[12:27] <PriceChild> Nope :( hockey. What was mr. U Phil doing? :)
[12:27] <ompaul> they are playing bruce springsteen - pop rock even if I may say so myself, with the risk of o fender going on :)
[12:27] <ompaul> ooch wrong channel :)
[12:28] <Mez> nope. the monk
[12:28] <Mez> (@ PriceChild )
[12:47] <Mez> effie_jayx, and they have a local and national radio station#
[12:48] <effie_jayx> cool ... I remeber buying themwhen I was 13
[12:48] <Mez> effie_jayx, means nothing if we dont know how old you are
[12:48] <Mez> you could be 14
[12:49] <effie_jayx> long time ago buddy
[12:49] <Mez> effie_jayx, lol
[12:49] <effie_jayx> guns n' roses and metalica were king
[12:50] <Mez> effie_jayx, they still are in my eyes
[12:50] <effie_jayx> Mez, but back then the status quo would agree with us...
[01:35] <ompaul> effie_jayx, I remember a time before metallica, and antrax, however I don't remember a time before TV but I do remember before colour TV hit this island
[01:35] <ompaul> and then I noted that Color television production was halted during the Korean war, with that and the lawsuits, and the sluggish sales, the CBS system failed.
[01:41] <ompaul> jenda, just to make it a little obvious, I am talking about the very early 70's
[01:42] <ompaul> and I remember the 60's also :)
[01:42] <jenda> I know :)
[01:42] <Amaranth> wow i barely remember the 80s :P
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, didnt know you were that old :|
[01:42] <jenda> But color TVs were very, very scarce in the soviet satellite states, ompaul :)
[01:43] <ompaul> at least they were satellite capable :-) we only got that as the cold war came to an end (pun pun pun when you can)
[01:44] <effie_jayx> ompaul :O
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, when things started to warm up again?
[01:45] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, ehh golbal warming has been happening since the 70's I remember scientists talking about it then, and I remember the hole over the antartic being an issue then also
[01:45] <ompaul> it used to be in TIME mag and the like
[01:46] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, they were there
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hope so, or i'm ~11 years old *grin*
[01:47] <ompaul> hehe
[01:49] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: I often have trouble remembering back five minutes, let alone the 90s :) (although I lived almost exactly half of my life during the 90s)
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, i'm in a similar position ;)
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> must be all that beer ;)
[01:50] <jenda> hehe :)
[01:50] <jenda> Oh well, /me out again, back to legal history :/
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl :|
[01:53] <Amaranth> so far exactly half my life was in the 90s :)
[01:54] <Amaranth> you people are old
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Amaranth, :/ why, how old are you?
[01:55] <Amaranth> 20
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ooh, i just found a 'road to freedom is open' poster in my bag from lca :D
[01:56] <Amaranth> if age > amaranth_age: print 'you\'re old'
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Amaranth, 20 and how many months?
[01:56] <Amaranth> almost 2
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> gah, i'm old
[02:08] <effie_jayx> Kamping_Kaiser,  I want one...
[02:09] <effie_jayx> jenda,  can I have the bif file you used to get thos posters printed...
[02:09] <effie_jayx> I'ma get some posters printed here in my country
[04:04] <Jucato> !ntfs
[04:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:04] <Jucato> !no ntfs is <reply> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:04] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Jucato
[04:35] <jenda> effie_jayx: wtf is a bif file? :)
[04:36] <effie_jayx> jenda,  sorry ... you made the highway to freedome poster... the BIG file...
[04:36] <effie_jayx> I meant
[04:36] <jenda> effie_jayx: you can find everything there is at http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/
[04:36] <jenda> ah :)
[04:36] <jenda> yes, it's all there.
[04:37] <jenda> DIY Material/Posters, Batch 1 I think
[04:38] <effie_jayx> thnks jenda
[04:39] <jenda> np
[04:39] <SportChick> wn8
[04:39] <PriceChild> Can someone ban jenda please? He shouldn't be here!!!!!
[04:39] <PriceChild> :P
[04:48] <effie_jayx> lol
[04:54] <apokryphos> ack. P is just so close to J ;-)
[04:58] <PriceChild> :)
[04:58] <effie_jayx> :S
[04:58] <PriceChild> He's meant to be revising!!!
[05:08] <Mez> nalioth, we got a join spammer in -devel
[05:10] <ompaul> what is that guy doing?
 mruiz, Mez join channel > #ubuntu-network please :)
[05:11] <ompaul> noted that
[05:11] <ompaul> now lets see what that channel is about lurk lurk
[05:11] <Mez> I'm trying to find out
 ... ?
 wtf is this ?
 hello Mez, in channel for technical ubuntu network
 ... ?
 which means ?
[05:11] <Mez> -ChanServ- Channel [#ubuntu-network]  is private
 1) join spamming is bad
 2) what the heck is this ?
 I invited them to talk about ''ubuntu network. To listen what other people have to say about ''ubuntu and to chat. And I registered the channel because of that.
 define what you mean by "ubuntu networ
[05:12] <Mez> argh! pb script isnt woking
[05:18] <ompaul> collecting teams
[05:19] <ompaul> you could not contribute to that many teams if you wanted to and have a life which you should do
[05:19] <Mez> ompaul, have yuo seen my lp page ?
[05:19] <Mez> :P
[05:21] <Mez>  ompaul though, mine are all sorta linked into being one thing
[05:21] <Mez> well, one or two things
[05:21] <ompaul> Mez, not that at all
[05:21] <Mez> ompaul, .... ?
[05:21] <ompaul> I can do syslinux but that is not what I want :-/
[05:21] <Mez> "not that at all"
[05:22] <ompaul> Mez, I was talking about your new bestest friend :)
[05:22] <ompaul> and I am going back to that kind of work I just mentioned
[05:22] <LjL> ompaul, don't USB sticks sometimes tend to boot in a different ways from HDs? that is, not USB sticks themselves, but your BIOS
[05:22] <ompaul> I got grub now I need a config file
[05:23] <ompaul> I have booted syslinux and a 2.4 kernel now I want to do some stuff with 2.5 so I have grub installed just not usefully
[05:23] <ompaul> s/2.5/2.6
[05:24] <ompaul> then I will work on doing something even more evil and istalling on a flash card a really small distro and then .. well then we shall have to see
[05:24] <Mez> ompaul, definately a wannabee
[05:24] <Mez> he's made BenC a member of 2 kernel teams
[05:24] <LjL> ompaul: myself i've been fancying on making a gaming distro, very console style, that would run from multi-session CD or USB
[05:24] <Mez> oh no
[05:25] <Mez> thats benc
[05:25] <LjL> though i don't know enough and i'm not really motivated enough
[05:25] <Mez> !seen BenC
[05:25] <ubotu> I last saw BenC (n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins) 1d 9h 3m 29s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"
[05:30] <jenda> PriceChild: I'm not here!
[05:30] <jenda> :)
[05:30] <nixternal> mentally
[05:30] <Mez> @lart nixternal 35
[05:30] <Mez> @lart 35 nixternal
[05:30] <nixternal> hey, i already own the manual, no need for another one
[05:31] <nixternal> @lart Mez 348038432235324343
[05:31] <nixternal> lovely
[05:33] <effie_jayx> I have a question
[05:34] <effie_jayx> maybe someone can help me here... I am the founder of a channel... in that channel when I Identify myself... what level do I get
[05:34] <effie_jayx> ?
[05:35] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, if you identify to chanserv, then 50
[05:35] <jenda> 50
[05:35] <Mez> 30
[05:35] <jenda> effie_jayx: you get maximum level, no matter the number.
[05:35] <PriceChild> jenda, go away!
[05:35] <effie_jayx> I did... but I have level 30
[05:36] <jenda> the number doesn't change.
[05:36] <jenda> You have full, limitless access.
[05:36] <effie_jayx> ok...
[05:37] <effie_jayx> I tried lowering the access in the list and said I needed higher access level
[05:37] <jenda> then you haven't identified to chanserv.
[05:38] <effie_jayx> the loco team contact does not use the same nick anymore... and he wishes to change it to his current nick
[05:38] <effie_jayx> jenda,  mmm let me double check but I did get a confirmation message
[05:38] <effie_jayx> -ChanServ- You already have contact access to [#ubuntu-ve] 
[05:39] <effie_jayx> I have
[05:39] <jenda> typo in the command, perhaps?
[05:39] <apokryphos> you need to make sure you've identified with chanserv
[05:40] <apokryphos> also, even if it says you've got five on the access list, you actually have 50 if you're channel contact
[05:40] <effie_jayx> ok
[05:40] <effie_jayx> I got it ... thanks guys...
[05:41] <effie_jayx> must have been a typo in my previous 4 atempts
[05:41] <jenda> :)
[05:42] <Mez> effie_jayx, easy to type something wrong over and over again until it's pointed out
[05:44] <effie_jayx> Mez,  lesson learned...
[05:44] <effie_jayx> :D
[06:23] <willys_fueguino> hello everyone.... how are you in this excellent day???
[06:25] <ompaul> it appears to be not bad today being considered
[06:31] <willys_fueguino> XDDD
[07:14] <gnomefreak> 2 frigging days and still not getting it
[07:15] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: there has got to be another way to do this
[07:15] <LjL> what?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> LjL: ive spent well over 24 hours downloading suse10.2 cd 1
[07:16] <LjL> no torrent or something available?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> the md5s are always for a differnt iso
[07:16] <LjL> nice
[07:16] <gnomefreak> LjL: this is the 4th time ive downloaded the same iso
[07:16] <LjL> url?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> and for some reason md5sum says its the ppc cd 5
[07:17] <gnomefreak> http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version#USA
[07:17] <Amaranth> i've got a torrent for the x86 DVD
[07:18] <gnomefreak> at 7hours per download this is starting to pissme off big time
[07:18] <Amaranth> is that what you want?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: dvd is about 26 hour download for me
[07:18] <Amaranth> oh
[07:18] <Amaranth> can't find torrent for CD
[07:18] <gnomefreak> thats why i went with cd cause i can break between them
[07:18] <gnomefreak> torrents are slower than straight download
[07:19] <Amaranth> you can pause the torrent :)
[07:19] <gnomefreak> true
[07:19] <Amaranth> and this thing has 2x as many seed as leech so it should max out your connection
[07:19] <Amaranth> http://www.mininova.org/get/507453
[07:19] <gnomefreak> let me see if there is a dvd torrent  here
[07:19] <gnomefreak> whats that?
[07:19] <Amaranth> x86 DVD torrent
[07:20] <Amaranth> for opensuse 10.2
[07:20] <gnomefreak> ah
[07:20] <gnomefreak> ok guess ill try this one
[07:21] <LjL> gnomefreak: your bandwidth?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> slow
[07:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:22] <gnomefreak> LjL: not sure
[07:22] <LjL> well i'm downloading at 930kbytes/s, so i guess i can tell you pretty soon what my MD5 looks like
[07:23] <gnomefreak> LjL: mine is at 26ish kbps on dsl lite
[07:23] <LjL> nasssty
[07:23] <gnomefreak> you can see why it takes me 7-8 hours to download 688 mb
[07:23] <gnomefreak> give or take
[07:23] <gnomefreak> torrents at about 10kbps :(
[07:24] <LjL> gnomefreak: i suppose suse doesn't have some kind of netinstall cd
[07:24] <gnomefreak> yep they do but i havent yet heard a good thing about it
[07:25] <gnomefreak> torrets at about 20-25 kbps (10 was the average
[07:30] <apokryphos> no need to use torrents or the http/ftp links
[07:30] <apokryphos> use metalinks :)
[07:30] <apokryphos> I guarantee it'll max out your connection :P
[07:32] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: rsync can fix md5sum errors
[07:32] <apokryphos> no need to re-download :P
[07:33] <gnomefreak> still would have to download the other 4cds at best 2 more
[07:33] <apokryphos> nope, only 3. Anyhow, msg :P
[09:10] <LjL> gnomefreak: i had to go for dinner but... i downloaded the CD, the md5 matches
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> LjL: gnewsense?
[09:39] <LjL> no tonyyarusso SUSE
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> ah
[09:40] <LjL> gnomefreak was having problem getting the CD to download
[09:53] <DBO> ping nalioth
[10:00] <SportChick> nalioth is sleeping
[10:01] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[10:02] <jenda> DBO: but you've got a plethora of staff to choose from, if that's what you're looking for :)
[10:03] <DBO> you are freenode staff right
[10:03] <DBO> respond to beryls request for a cloak darnit!
[10:03] <jenda> hehe :)
[10:03] <DBO> we put it in MONTHS ago
[10:04] <jenda> DBO: I waited half a year for my tapthru group :)
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> That is a little ridiculous
[10:04] <Pricey> :O
[10:04] <jenda> don't worry, I'll try and push it.
[10:04] <DBO> just a bit
[10:04] <jenda> hehe
[10:05] <DBO> there might be 2 in there by now
[10:05] <jenda> DBO: cloaks aren't really the most important thing there is :)
[10:05] <jenda> Cool - no problem.
[10:05] <DBO> no its not =P  but it would be nice
[10:06] <jenda> I'll do my best.
[10:06] <DBO> and your site does say the squeeky wheel gets the oil =P
[10:06] <DBO> so I am here to squeak at you
[10:06] <DBO> =P
[10:06] <jenda> I'm relaying :)
[10:06] <jenda> Shopping for oil, that is.
[10:07] <jenda> apokryphos: WHAT?
[10:07] <jenda> you aren't sorted yet? :)
[10:07] <jenda> What was that, kvirc?
[10:07] <apokryphos> indeed :)
[10:10] <apokryphos> ok, out for now
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> !-universe
[10:51] <ubotu> universe is <alias> repos - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:54:05
[11:24] <LjL> you don't have *nearly* as much of a reason to cry as i do
[11:24] <joejaxx> why?
[11:24] <LjL> because
[11:24] <LjL> actually, i'll take my own reason away in a simple fashion
[11:25] <joejaxx> no i mean why is everyone crying?
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: I don't know about LjL, but we have a new user who wants a program that would require a) compiling, b) using build-deps from feisty.
[11:26] <joejaxx> oh wow
[11:26] <joejaxx> what application is that?
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: idjc - "Internet DJ Console"
[11:36] <joejaxx> hello maxamillion
[11:37] <maxamillion> hi hi
[12:07] <gnomefreak> if i stop a torrent can change OS' and it start were it left off. or will i have to start over?
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> Should resume.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> 6 hours for 70 mb i hope it resumes
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> eep
[12:09] <gnomefreak> 3.61 gigs total
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> dialup?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> dsl lite
[12:09] <elkbuntu> is that a way of saying 'dialup with a different name'?
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> kinda
[12:10] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:10] <gnomefreak> its a little faster than dialup
[12:10] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, it'd probably be quicker for me to download and post it to you, all the way from australia :
[12:11] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: prolly would but i would still have to download it from there ;)
[12:11] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, um.. i mean.. me downloady, me burny to cd.. me sendy
[12:11] <elkbuntu> s/cd/dvd/
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> Err, who's a developer with a moment?  :)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> see i dont think ktorrent will continue it becasue im not sure where the temp files are kept
[12:12] <gnomefreak> i had thought about having someone do it close by but hell i can buy it for 10 dollars
[12:13] <elkbuntu> probably worth your sanity
[12:13] <elkbuntu> the remaining shreds of such, anyway
[12:13] <gnomefreak> so true
[12:14] <gnomefreak> 2 days now trying to get this damn distro up and running
[12:14] <gnomefreak> - up and running + downloading
[12:15] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: whenever you have problems, just let me know :P
[12:15] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: having issues
[12:15] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> We have a user in -classroom who wants to install idjc on Edgy.  It's in Feisty repos, but not Edgy.  I thought we could get -dev packages from Feisty and work from there, but it seems to be demanding upgrading libc6-i686....which scares me way more than a little.  Guidance?
[12:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, can you please go to my blog and tell me if it looks like it used to or if it looks like i had it last night...?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: dont upgrade libc6 for any reason
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: I don't really remember which is which, but it has the title in upper right kinda orangy, then a grey box of Wikipedia, and the About link looks lonesome.
[12:20] <elkbuntu> ok then.. WHAT THE F***
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Yeah, that's what I figured.  Is there another way to do this, or do we have to tell him to wait four months?
[12:21] <elkbuntu> the dns on two domains in two seperate registrars, has reverted
[12:21] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: if it depends on libc6/glibc no other than upgrading full system
[12:21] <gnomefreak> upgrading libc6 will trash everything
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> No way to kind of build it with a new version without that actually being what's on the system eh?  Nuts.
[12:22] <Pricey> tonyyarusso, what about getting the source and building it yourself?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: not worth it
[12:22] <Pricey> tonyyarusso, it doesn't actually depend on feisty's higher version of it does it?
[12:22] <Pricey> s/yourself/himself/
[12:23] <gnomefreak> what is the package?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> crap
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Pricey: gnomefreak: I was basing depends off of http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/idjc
[12:23] <gnomefreak> hold that thought for a bit
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> And apt-get build-dep agreed
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Whether it's different if you don't use repos stuff at all, I don't know.
[12:23] <Pricey> tonyyarusso, yeah but that only tells you what it was built with and therefore depends on in feisty.... getting the source and building that himself should be perfectly fine
[12:24] <gnomefreak> what version libc6 doess edgy have?
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> Pricey: hmm...  So we could apt-get source the package from Feisty and go from there perhaps?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> <2.5?
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> !libc6 edgy
[12:24] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9992 kB
[12:24] <Pricey> tonyyarusso, I "think" :)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: dont do it :)
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: That bad eh?
[12:25] <Pricey> tonyyarusso, the only way we could ever have a problem with this is if it actually requires a libc6 of a certain version.... or am I very, very wrong?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> atleast warn him libc6 wrong version can leave linux usless and i mean even apt will fail
[12:25] <Pricey> gnomefreak, but there's no need to upgrade libc6 if he builds the other package from source?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Pricey: he would have to change the depends of it. if he does it the right way. but even compiling will error if wrong libc6 is used
[12:26] <Pricey> gnomefreak, hmm... what about getting the package from upstream instead then?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> only way i can think of to safely do it without upgrading distro. is to rebuild it in pbuilder change the control file depends and hope its not a chain of depends. the upstream version you would have to read to find out