=== neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d9321288.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-48-130.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-200-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:55] at last! a photo of toma [12:55] o noes [12:56] i need to delete that [12:56] where is it? [12:56] published to the entire world on the dot [12:56] omg [12:57] and that photo is not a nice one [12:57] sure it is [12:58] Riddell: i like this one more: http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/bobulate/uploads/Photos/group-a.jpg [12:59] that's not the whole group [12:59] Hmm... I may have to hit up mornfall to see if he knows how to get changelog data.... [12:59] true [12:59] but we were talking about me ;-) [01:00] :) [01:00] manchicken: synaptic and kpackage both show changelog data, but seem to go about it differently [01:00] Riddell: I forgot to arrogantly plug my wiki page to you earlier. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MikeStemleJr [01:01] ;) === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] manchicken: looks groovy, but the attachment thing doesn't work [01:07] Attachment? [01:07] "Upload new attachment "chicago.png" [01:07] Ah [01:07] heh [01:09] I totally jocked nixternal's thing. [01:09] night everybody === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.1.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.140.212] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:41] manchicken: have you seen synaptic's and kpackage's implementation of the changelog thing? [01:41] Naw. [01:41] I know how I'm going to do it though. [01:42] Riddell says I'll have to open things up from changelog.ubuntu.com [01:43] ah, that's how synaptic does it. which is good, I guess, if you have an active internet connection [01:44] kpackage reads from the changelog that is installed with the package, so you can view it offline. disadvantage: it only works for installed packages === jpetso__ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] mm, that kindae defeats the purpose === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] Yeah... that is kind backwards. [01:49] I want to know what the changelog is BEFORE I upgrade. [01:50] ALSA in particular has bit me in the ass with upgrades, so I'd like to know what the benefit is and if it's worth the risk. [01:51] manchicken: changelogs.ubuntu.com/pool/ [01:51] Yeah, I'm implementing a changelog viewer for adept. [01:51] true [01:51] ah :) [01:51] but just a question/suggestion, if it's possible at all... [01:51] Maybe I'll be able to get QHttp to work in C++. It never worked in Qt/Perl. === Jucato first greets Hobbsee!! [01:52] hey Jucato! [01:52] Hobbsee: BTW, HIYA!!!!!!!!! [01:52] ^_^ [01:52] hey manchicken!!! [01:52] Hobbsee: I was told to bug you about details on the next meeting. [01:53] manchicken: is it possible, for example, to make Adept dowload/view the changelog from changelog.ubuntu.com if an update for it is available or if the package isn't installed, but make it just view the installed changelog if there's no update for it and the package is already installed? [01:54] Jucato: Dunno. I suspect it would be possible. Right now I'm focusing on functionality specifically with adept_updater. [01:54] So at first we'll only be dealing in packages with updates. [01:55] next meeting? when would that be? [01:55] manchicken: fair enough. :) [01:56] manchicken: ah, yes. [01:56] manchicken: yes, i have my roster now [01:56] manchicken: you're gonna make Adept really adept at being a package manager. === Jucato just hopes Adept won't suffer the same fate as KPackage... :( [01:56] Jucato: That is the goal. [01:56] manchicken: are there any days you cant do? [01:56] rooster or roster like in names [01:57] not even sure that is spelled right :( [01:57] gnomefreak: roster. times to go to work. [01:57] ah [01:57] Hobbsee: This Friday, and from 2/14-2/18. [01:57] gnomefreak: i thought you were a native english speaker [01:57] manchicken: okay [01:58] i am sort of === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] gnomefreak: where are you from? [01:58] Hobbsee: I'm gonna be a quarter a week from Thursday. [01:58] i failed english [01:58] ^_^ [01:58] US [01:58] heh [01:58] gnomefreak: Well I suppose you're going to have to learn French then. === Jucato imagines Hobbsee having a rooster :P [01:58] manchicken: how will you be a quarter? [01:58] Hobbsee: Quarter of a century. === Hobbsee is trying to convince her friend's mother to buy more chooks :) [01:58] manchicken: ahhh :) [01:58] hey Jucato [01:58] manchicken: happy birthday then, old man :P [01:59] I know. Just call me grandpa. === Jucato remembers the ops meeting tomorrow at 5am... [01:59] happy birthday youngin === Hobbsee hands grandpa the walking stick [01:59] Jucato: eep [01:59] Jucato: tuesday right? [01:59] NeoChaosX: hi [01:59] Jucato: did you communicate the Krita gif support problem to whoever packages Koffice? [01:59] Jucato: i wont be there. [02:00] Hobbsee: heh you know me... I still go to meetings even at those ungodly hours :0 [02:00] :) [02:00] Jucato: hehe [02:00] NeoChaosX: I mentioned the Krita bug, although it seems to have been confirmed by some people, I still haven't gotten a sort of "official" word from the packagers. [02:01] hm, I see [02:01] gnomefreak: yeah tuesday... that'd make it a wednesday here... so not yet tomorrow after all lol [02:02] lol [02:02] whos working on koffice? tonio? [02:02] Riddell: i thought === Jucato wished the topic said the exact date rather than "Tuesday 21:00 UTC" [02:02] I package it [02:02] morning Riddell! dont you sleep? [02:02] but I've not looked into Jucato's bug [02:02] ah === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] its the same on feisty (i dont think i added my comments to bug) [02:03] I should sleep I suppose === Jucato counts 8 hours backwards... 1am?? [02:04] yes [02:04] Riddell: you could, yes. sleep is overated though [02:04] Riddell: does a thurs night meeting work for you? [02:04] Hobbsee: not this thursday [02:04] but other thursday would be fine [02:04] right [02:05] argh. TB is on when i would have put our meeting. === gnomefreak remembers why i choose ubuntu(k,ed,x) instead of suse [02:05] gnomefreak: why was that? [02:05] going on 3 days worth of crap trying to get suse 10.2 iso's [02:06] I used to use SuSE, too. zen has the nasty habit of updating drivers without letting you know about it. [02:06] Riddell: what would be your opinion on pullling Sime's patches from kde, (the media:/ to /media), seeing as they break various things? [02:06] slow net connection failded upgrades from 10.0 beta [02:06] And then the Microsoft deal thingy kinda kicked me in the ethics. [02:06] Hobbsee: probably a good meeting item [02:07] Riddell: true. that's what it was planned for [02:07] right, if we're having a meeting this week, you guys are going to be having it in the afternoon or something [02:07] er wait, no, around midnight [02:08] or lunch/afternoon [02:08] midnight probably more popular [02:08] yes.... === Hobbsee wonders what 2300 UTC is in her timezone [02:09] 2300UTC is a good time ^_^ [02:09] date --UTC === Hobbsee just got it from -meeting [02:09] or 1 - cant remmeber [02:09] right. 2300 UTC wednesday is looking good. [02:09] Hobbsee: you'll be awake by then? :) === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] Ooh. Wednesday is payday, too. === Jucato thinks that's 10AM AU time [02:10] Jucato: yep [02:10] :) [02:10] well, for some part of AU [02:11] ah yes... for Hobbsee's world I mean [02:11] s/world/part :P [02:11] Jucato: yep === Hobbsee thwaps ajmitch [02:12] so cruel.. [02:12] yes. [02:15] Hobbsee: So is 1/31 @ 2300UTC the date and time then? [02:15] I'm gonna work from home to make the meeting. [02:16] anyone fancy e-mailing the people who have signed up to kubuntu-meeting asking for them to come along? [02:17] Riddell: signed up to kubuntu-meeting? [02:17] oh, is that a ML or something? === Hobbsee nods === Hobbsee will email -devel, -meeting, and -fridge. === Hobbsee will go and do other stuff first though. [02:19] s/kubuntu-meeting/kubuntu-members [02:19] and kubuntu-team [02:19] Riddell: they have a mailing list? [02:19] no, they don't === Hobbsee will just file a bug then :P [02:20] and subscribe them to it [02:20] but there's lots of people who have tried to sign up to kubuntu-members, and it would be good to e-mail them each and tell them they need to come along to the meeting [02:20] gotcha [02:20] Where do I find those mailing lists? [02:20] it's on my todo list, it just hasnt been done yet [02:20] has anyone else found that basket is really great for todo's? [02:20] manchicken: you don't! they don't exist except in Hobbsee's imagination [02:20] Ah. [02:20] lol [02:20] Nice. [02:20] haha [02:21] manchicken: lists.ubuntu.com [02:21] Okay, so is that a yes on the date and time... thanks. [02:22] oh yes, i see === Hobbsee adds to todo [02:29] whats the deal with gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~$ kbuildsycoca running... [02:30] no im not running it outside of if it runs on its own [02:30] but for some reason it keeps doing that too me [02:31] oh yeah, congrats, KDE folks :) [02:31] (on your dist-upgrade frontend, that is) [02:31] now, if only we had a CLI or ncurses one :) [02:31] yay to Riddell!! (who might be sleeping already... [02:33] and yay to uselessly pinging Riddell [02:34] Hobbsee: are you a bit busy? [02:36] jdong_: well, it's not finished yet [02:36] Riddell: regardless it's still good news :) [02:36] gnomefreak: it means it thinks one of the files it's monitoring has been edited === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:42] how do i get rid of it [02:43] other than killing it (is there a way to disable it) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] Jucato: yes? no? *shrug* [03:01] Jucato: i've more got a whole heap of stuff to do which i cant do *yet* [03:02] Hobbsee: heh I'll just ask later when you're more free. it's not that important, anyway [03:02] Jucato: ask now :) === Hobbsee is back :) === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso [03:03] just about kubuntu membership. if you apply for it during the kubuntu meeting, and, by the grace of $DEITY, got accepted, does that also make you an ubuntu member? [03:03] Jucato: yes [03:04] ooooh... aaah... [03:04] although you get a @kubuntu.org email - not sure if you get a @ubuntu.com one too [03:04] Riddell: do you know? [03:04] and you're entitled to the cloak too? === Jucato guesses he's sleeping now... [03:04] Jucato: yep. just have to ask seveas for that [03:04] Jucato: quite likely [03:05] ah thanks for your time. see? not so important :) [03:05] it's fine :) [03:05] ooh do I get a kubuntu e-mail? :D === Hobbsee was just afk for a bit (breakfast and all), then came back :) [03:06] jdong_: you a ubuntu member or kubuntu one? [03:06] currently just a ubuntu one :( [03:06] er, that's a trick questoin [03:06] dont think so, then [03:06] what does it take to be a kubuntu one? :) [03:06] hehe :) [03:06] havent' I done a lot for kubuntu? :) [03:06] jdong_: same as a ubuntu one, but the stuff be some kubuntu-related [03:07] meh, some other day when sudo make time works === jdong_ files an Emacs doctor refuses to do my homework bug.... [03:07] hahaha [03:07] lol, I wonder what the reaction would be === Jucato thinks he needs to file a vim ate my homework bug [03:08] Hobbsee: What's for breakfast? [03:08] chicken [03:08] :D === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] manchicken: people [03:09] Hobbsee: Ooh. I like people. [03:09] Hobbsee: ugh I had that last night [03:09] they overbroiled the arms though [03:09] and they spilled all the cranial fluids too... [03:09] that's the good stuff [03:09] hehe [03:15] okay, there are a few people on this list that we can straight decline, i think... === Hobbsee doesnt have admin rights though === Jucato has 7 days to think about applying [03:16] oh? [03:16] why? it's in 3 days... [03:16] oh? [03:16] I thought it was next thursday [03:17] it changed :P [03:17] ha! [03:17] [12:15] Hobbsee: So is 1/31 @ 2300UTC the date and time then? [03:17] Jucato: i didnt even email people first! === Hobbsee might wait till tonio_ comes in before sending that email though [03:17] hehe better e-mail them really quick once Tonio_ confirms :P [03:17] The konversation OSD is just so nice ^_^ [03:18] yeah === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-200-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@ip-69-33-206-3.iad.megapath.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-85-77.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] Man, it's amazing how much easier it is to work in a program once you're more familiar with its codebase. [03:59] hehe, indeed! === shnee [n=CurtyD13@216.54.146.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rd [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.112] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:09] Argh, don't know how to add this file. [04:15] w00t! [04:15] I think it worked. [04:25] heh, is that a windows key? [04:34] heh i thought you were talking about a keyboard key and was confused. that IS a windows key, remember that one too well === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso__ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A728AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ingmar [n=ingmar@86-39-2-139.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:08] OMW, is it going to compile?! [05:08] w00t! Compiled. Now, will it link? [05:08] is someone running kde 3.5.5 still? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:08] I'm on 3.5.5 [05:09] I didn't know that 3.5.6 was ready for edgy yet. [05:10] manchicken: can you run apt-cache show kopete and pastebin it somewhere please? [05:10] it's in a separate repo [05:12] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3301/ === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:19] manchicken: thanks mate [05:19] np ^_^ === Hobbsee wonders why we've lost a couple of deps === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:26] Okay, so I've got the thing set up to turn a ListerItem pointer into a URL for a changelog. [05:27] The question now is how do we want to display that? [05:27] clikc on button that says "view changelog" and hcangelog pops up? [05:27] We could go all nice and cool displaying it, but I think for starters it might be nice to just have something. [05:28] Right, but do we just want to have K just go fetch it and pull it up into the editor, or do we want a dialog with a text widget, or do we want a label, or a scrollable display.... [05:28] When's freeze? [05:30] what's K in this instance? === Hobbsee was thinking of what ubuntu does with the release announcements [05:31] I'm unfamiliar with what they do. [05:31] ah [05:44] What about putting the changelog into the context menu? [05:45] yeah, would work [05:45] *shrugs* [05:46] manchicken: i'm thinking it would make sense to just put it in the "details" view [05:47] yuriy: We're talking about the updater. [05:47] oh [05:47] Although if I stick it into the context menu, it may work for everything. [05:48] That would be an added bonus. [05:48] is there anything in that spec about refining the details view btw? [05:54] manchicken: the updater has a details view... i think changelog would fit nicely as another tab in there [05:55] just my 2c [05:55] Not a bad idea. [05:58] and by refining the details view, i mean mainly that the "show list" button is very unintuitive to me [05:58] especially because there is also a "back" button [06:01] I'm not sure how much refining I can do for that. [06:02] It's beddy-bye time. [06:02] actually i'm not sure why there are back/forward buttons at all [06:02] good night manchicken === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=jason@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] Hobbsee, i'll get it ( amarok ) [07:03] imbrandon: okay. grab the bugs that are assigned to me as well, to do with amarok, please [07:04] will do === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-81-133.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-200-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-81-133.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrWGW [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] Kwwii, are you there ATM? [08:26] MrWGW: yepp, just woke up [08:26] back at home now [08:26] I've really started to like Kubuntu [08:26] so I'm enthusiastic about helping out [08:26] ;-) [08:26] cool [08:26] Right now I'm in SLED, I don't know how or why, but I think I've b0rked the visuals of this distro, at least in GNOME [08:27] because its ten times uglier than when I first installed it [08:27] hehe [08:27] I think I need to change my font settings [08:27] and get some new Metacity themes [08:27] we are looking into using a condensed font for gui elements in feisty [08:27] anyway, what is the next step for me? Do you have a wiki or something? [08:28] well, I made artwork specs on launchpad [08:28] I'd be careful with that...condensed fonts are harder to read [08:28] link? [08:28] and those link to short wiki descriptions [08:28] one second [08:29] The one advantage would be you'd see less text chopped at the end of a window [08:31] go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs?searchtext=+kubuntu+artwork [08:31] that shows the scope of things we want to do (but not necessarily everything we will do) [08:31] and it does not show whether it is a major change or minor change [08:32] taking a look [08:32] I think we have pretty much decided to push the existing artwork further rather than do everything new [08:32] btw, has Sun GPLed the JRE yet and if so, will it be preloaded in Feisty? [08:32] I'm having a devil of a time getting it to work in Edgy [08:32] no idea about that...better to ask on ubuntu-devel [08:32] ok [08:33] if you remove the kubuntu in that last url you'll see all the artwork related specs [08:33] or -motu [08:33] there is quite a few === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] Jucato: good point === Jucato sharpens his pencil... *this* is a point :D [08:34] one day... one day... I'll have enough art experience, knowh-how, and talent... [08:34] ;-) [08:35] has any actual artwork been produced at this stage? [08:37] MrWGW: until now I have been working on ubuntu, so very little in the way of actual artwork [08:37] not sure how I will split up the work yet [08:38] that's easy... === Jucato gets a saw to split up kwwii :) [08:38] careful, we wouldn't want people to think you were a filesystem developer, Jucato :-P [08:38] I wish it were that easy [08:38] and yes, that was a bad joke [08:38] ::braces for flamage:: [08:39] lol [08:39] at least I'd have someone intelligent to talk too :p [08:39] hahaha :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@165.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:41] ha ROFL [08:41] moin Tonio_ [08:41] aloah !!!! [08:41] hey Jucato :) [08:42] howdy Tonio_ [08:42] just seen Riddell has uploaded the kmail fix, I was about to do it ;) === Jucato wonders if that's a new greeting... or was supposed to be "aloha"... [08:42] yo kwwii [08:42] Jucato: that was ;) === Tonio_ notes the correct writing for this :) === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93211fb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ wonders what to do with fonts in systemsettings.... [08:43] default-settings, sorry.... [08:43] sans serif is completly messed up on kubuntu [08:43] Tonio_: we have been talking about using a condensed font [08:44] remvoing the asian characters from deja vu so that those lang. use a font that works well [08:44] but leaving the doccument font a regular style [08:47] kwwii: yes I've seen that topic [08:47] kwwii: what is decided ? [08:48] kwwii: I must say I'm not an expert in fonts.... does this impact the settings or is that just packaging issue for that font ? [08:48] Tonio_: we decided to test it out [08:49] since we can still change it back if things look worse [08:49] kwwii: so we have to change the settings to deja vu condenced ? [08:50] Tonio_: some but not all, yes [08:50] kwwii: is condenced opposed to "light" ? [08:50] I don't see "condenced" in the font config tool [08:53] let me check [08:54] condensed is an extra font === Jucato wonders what happened to Hobbsee since she was supposed to ask Tonio_ something [08:54] not a style [08:55] kwwii: I don't have it in the list by default [08:55] is that an external one ? [08:55] universe or something ? [08:58] hrm, no idea [08:59] I do not think that I installed it extra on purpose [08:59] so it might be part of the ubuntu desktop and not kubuntu [09:01] kwwii: ah.... I'll have a look then [09:01] well [09:06] Riddell: ping [09:07] a bit early for him methinks [09:07] kwwii: I can't find the package for dejavu condenced [09:08] kwwii: all I have in my fonts list is dejavu sans, serif and mono === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] Tonio_: dpkg tells me it is in the dejavu package [09:08] at least on edgy, it is [09:09] kwwii: bah it is not in my list.... unless I'm missing something [09:09] it's there on my edgy.. [09:09] crazy === yuriy wonders why font installer is in appearance settings [09:10] http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture10.png [09:10] am I missing something or what ? [09:11] i don't have dejavu condensed on feisty either, only on edgy [09:11] yuriy: hum..... === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:17] hi [09:17] Tonio_: freaky man...it should show up in the left box [09:18] kwwii: yes, that's the problem ;) [09:18] fyi, the LinuxTag call for paper was sent [09:18] so if you have stuff to talk about ... :) [09:18] it'll take place in Berlin this year :) [09:18] and it would obviously be good to have a kubuntu speaker :) [09:19] Tonio_: have a look at the changelog for ttf-dejavu, says something about removing the condensed suffix [09:21] yuriy: ah... [09:26] i wonder what the improvement there is supposed to be === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexua1 [n=lexhider@ppp131-93.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexua1 [n=lexhider@ppp131-93.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === screemo [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] hi ther [10:17] e === \sh_away is now known as \sh === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.23.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === screemo [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] kwwii: [10:47] debian/ttf-dejavu.defoma-hints: remove "-Condensed" suffix from [10:47] Famil [10:47] kwwii: should I understand that condensed is now the "dejavu sans" font ? [10:47] s/Famil/Family [10:47] Tonio_: not sure really...when was this changed? [10:48] as in exact date [10:48] kwwii: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 [10:48] that's the changelog date [10:48] freaky [10:50] seems to me that either someone removed the condensed font or moved the condensed to be the normal one [10:50] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82094 [10:50] Malone bug 82094 in kubuntu-meta "USB safe unmount from desktop data corruption" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:50] another bug due to the media patches........ we really should discuss this for feisty [10:51] kwwii: changelog talks about a suffix removed, not a font.... [10:51] can be the name only no ? [10:51] kwwii: how are those fonts named on edgy ? [10:51] do you have 3 or 4 dejavu fonts ? [10:52] Tonio_: 4 [10:52] Tonio_: look at the last few changes before that [10:53] erm, I have 5 [10:53] kwwii: hum, I don't understand the bug report then [10:53] Sans, Sans-Condensed, serif, serif-condensed, mono [10:53] everyone talks about using a non-existing fond...... stupid [10:53] lol, yeah [10:53] s/fond/font [10:54] it would be funny as hell if someone had replaced the normal fonts with the condensed version [10:54] then I can remove the bug about using the condensed verison and nobody would know [10:55] I'm fixing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kerry/+bug/81062 [10:55] Malone bug 81062 in kerry "Beagled is not started automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:56] that's a well known autostart issue [10:57] is kde-guidance removed for good ? [10:58]