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sFEARsX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:17
sFEARs  Major opcode:  14512:17
sFEARs  Minor opcode:  312:17
sFEARs  Resource id:  0x012:17
sFEARsFailed to open device12:17
sFEARsthat's what my konsole window says after i run ksysguard12:17
nagyvsFEARs: do you have any browsers?12:17
sFEARsbut i do have a system load window that popped up12:17
james_xxxsFEARs you could get banned posting to the channel like that... no offence intended12:17
Sannenagyv: that would be helpful, can you guide sFEARs through this?12:17
sFEARsyeah12:17
sFEARsfirefox & konquorer both work12:18
nagyvSanne: I will do it, but after I will have to leave12:18
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Sannenagyv: ok, maybe I can continue where you leave off when you must leave. sFEARs, can you work with nagyv a bit?12:19
sFEARsno more pasting.. heard12:19
surgyanyone know how long builidng k3b usualy takes?12:19
jmichaelxsurgy: why are you building k3b?12:19
nagyvsFEARs: create a file, with this content: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3256/12:19
SannesFEARs: next time please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes.12:20
surgyjmichaelx: to get mp3 support12:20
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SammyFsurgy: why don't you just install the packages?12:20
surgyjmichaelx: following these instructions http://www.pastebin.ca/33150312:20
surgysammyF: i couldnt find the packages12:20
jmichaelxsurgy: you don't need to build it to do that... you just need to have all of your repos enabled and install the proper package12:21
nagyv!mp3 | surgy12:21
ubotusurgy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
sFEARswhat exactally is that12:21
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sFEARsthe paste thing12:21
surgyjmichaelx: i have all my repos enable and still couldnt find it12:21
jmichaelxsurgy: you probably have not added the right repo....   i am not sure which one it is12:21
SammyFubotu: argl .. you beat me on speed :P12:21
SannesFEARs: please work with nagyv for now12:21
nagyvsFEARs: this is a website where we can share texts/scripts that are big for an IRC12:22
surgyjmichaelx: i need to learn how to build from source anyways plus its going without a hitch12:22
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nagyvsFEARs: please cope the file I have sent to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3256/12:22
sFEARsIC12:22
sFEARsyup.. i gots12:22
jmichaelxsurgy: that is fine if you are wanting to do that, but for future reference, there are some repos that you need to add to make life a little easier12:22
SammyFplease ... anybody ... I'm REALLY desperate here :(12:22
nagyvalright, now set it executable12:22
nagyvsFEARs: ^^^12:23
surgyjmichaelx: how long can i expect to wait? days?12:23
jmichaelxi don't know which ones you need , though :-(\12:23
sFEARsso i gues i just add my info to the bottom of the script there & it will post?12:23
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jmichaelxsurgy: i would hope not, but it could take a while12:23
nagyvsFEARs: nop, you have to save that script, and run it on your computer12:23
vontuxcould someone check out this link and tell me what the "skip" and "count" options mean, here is the link: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-21106.html12:23
surgyjmichaelx: i have the univers and multiverse plus a few restricted plus a few others12:23
sFEARshaha.. ohh yeah12:23
vontuxthx in advance12:23
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sFEARsisn't that technically unsafe12:24
mardihi all, when I try to download a .skz (superkaramba file) konqueror tries to open it with Kate and I've set everything I can find to make it not, but it still does... any help?12:24
sFEARsi shouldn't just go running scripts from anywhere huh?12:24
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nagyvsFEARs: it will create a file which will list all the packages that you already have. I have a similar file about a final Edgy install, and I will take the difference of the two.12:24
nagyvsFEARs: you are right, but you have to trust me now :)12:24
sFEARscool12:24
jmichaelxsurgy: there are others... you may need the commercial repo from canonical.... i wish i could tell you which one to add12:24
nagyvsFEARs: I can explain you all the 9 lines of the script if you want it12:25
sFEARsnot yet12:25
sFEARsmabey later12:25
surgyjmichaelx: i didnt even know canonicle had a comericial repo for the public12:25
jmichaelxyeah12:25
nagyvsFEARs: even better, don't copy anything, just run this command12:25
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nagyvsFEARs: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > ~/packages.txt12:26
jmichaelxi am not in kubuntu right now , or i would look at my sources.list and tell you what its address is12:26
sFEARssave as text?12:26
SammyFanybody have any idea about KIOExec errors and what to do about them?12:26
sFEARspaste into run command box?12:26
nagyvno, at the console12:26
nagyvsFEARs: ^^^12:26
sFEARshaha..12:26
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sFEARsaight12:26
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nuxil!flash12:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:27
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash12:27
vontuxnevermind me last question, I just realized I can figure my problem out myself12:27
SammyF!KIOExec12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KIOExec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
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nagyvSammyF: try #kde12:28
SammyFnagyv: okay .. thanks :)12:28
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nagyvsFEARs: ready?12:28
sFEARsi typed the column command.. nothing happend.. hold on12:28
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sFEARsi opned the konsole window12:28
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nagyvsFEARs: thats  cool :)12:28
sFEARsalright12:28
nagyvsFEARs: do you have Kate?12:28
sFEARsnow as far as saving that file12:28
sFEARsdo i save the html.. save the script as a text file?12:29
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sFEARscouldn't paste into terminal12:29
millershey guys i em the neew can any tell me where i can get web sites four kubuntu instals and cool stuff?12:29
millershey guys i em the neew can any tell me where i can get web sites four kubuntu instals and cool stuff?12:29
nagyvsFEARs: you don't have to save the file, actually you have already run its important line. Now you just created a list of your packages under ~/packages.txt12:29
sFEARsohh12:29
nagyvsFEARs: do you have Kate?12:30
millers:(12:30
sFEARshere packages packages packages12:30
sFEARsnot sure about kate12:30
nagyvsFEARs: try it!12:30
sFEARsohhhh.. haha12:30
sFEARssudo kate?12:30
nagyvsFEARs: jsut kate12:30
nuxilwhen are they planning to make a 64 bit version of flash? "adobe that is any one know ?12:30
millershey guys i em the neew can any tell me where i can get web sites four kubuntu instals and cool stuff?12:30
millershey guys i em the neew can any tell me where i can get web sites four kubuntu instals and cool stuff?12:30
nagyvjsut/just12:30
sFEARscommand not found12:30
nagyvmillers: kubuntu.org12:31
millersthx12:31
nagyvsFEARs: then run the command more ~/packages.txt12:31
LjLdon't spam millers, thanks12:31
millersLjL: sry i em the new12:31
sFEARsand i do have a packages.txt file.. but it is empty12:31
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nagyvsFEARs: did you run this command? COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > ~/packages.txt12:32
sFEARsyeah12:32
sFEARsis that minus L or i12:32
nagyvsFEARs: copy-paste :) L12:32
sFEARsit won't paste into konsole12:33
nagyvsFEARs: SHIFT+INSERT will12:33
sFEARsdamn your tricky12:33
sFEARsalright12:33
SannesFEARs: middle mouse button pastes also12:33
sFEARsdone12:33
sFEARslaptop... no mouse12:33
nagyvsFEARs: then run the command more ~/packages.txt12:33
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sFEARsalright.. i got stuffs12:33
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millersfor kubuntu have any normal RPG game ????12:34
sFEARsii acpi12:34
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sFEARsrc adept=common12:34
sFEARsall kinds of stuff12:34
nagyvsFEARs: sudo apt-get install kate12:35
nagyvsFEARs: install kate12:35
sFEARsgonna take a while to scroll thru packages12:35
LjLUbotu, tell millers about games | millers, see the private message from Ubotu12:35
sFEARsis there a page end button12:35
sFEARsjust close out & open new konsole?12:35
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SammyFhello again12:36
SannesFEARs: 'q' gets you back to konsole12:36
sFEARsnice12:36
sFEARsmissing destination file after kate12:37
sFEARsmissing destination file operand after 'kate'12:37
sFEARswooooops12:37
sFEARsmy bad12:37
sFEARshold on12:37
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SammyFjust in case someone comes up with the same question 'KIOExec error : malformed URL" : just open up konqueror aas inet browser, and make sure Kongueror settings -> file asssiotations inode/directory. You need to make sure that inode/directory has Konquerer listed first.12:37
SammyFbbye12:37
sFEARsalright.. kate installed12:37
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sFEARsi got some baddevice errors in konsole & then a sessions chooser popped up12:38
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CVirus!compiz12:40
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:40
nagyvsFEARs: back again (the cable unplugged)12:40
sFEARsno worries12:40
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nagyvsFEARs: do you have kate already installed?12:40
sFEARsyup12:41
nagyvcool, fire it up, and open the packages.txt file12:41
sFEARswhen i run it i get a couple BadDevice errors in konsole & then "Session Chooser" window pops up12:41
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nagyvsFEARs: hmm, are you able to copy text from the console?12:42
sFEARsyup12:42
nagyvthen run COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > ~/packages.txt once more (we have installed kate, and probably also some other useful packages)12:42
nagyvsFEARs: ^^^12:42
sFEARsyeah?12:42
sFEARspaste into channel?12:42
nagyvsFEARs: then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste it there12:43
nagyvsFEARs: and send the link here12:43
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surgyok so i couldnt get it to build ......12:43
sFEARshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3260/12:43
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sFEARsgot ya12:43
surgywell its buillt but i couldnt get it to install12:43
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nagyvsFEARs: thx, but I would like to see the packages.txt file, not this :)12:44
sFEARsohhhh....12:44
sFEARshold on12:45
nagyvsFEARs: no problem, I wasn't clear enough12:45
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sFEARsdid a search for packages.txt & when i click on it "Session Chooser - Kate" window pops up12:45
nagyvrun the command "more ~/packages.txt"12:46
jmichaelxdoes anyone here what the proper way is to get a broadcom wireless adapter working well in edgy? it worked fine in dapper after extracting firmware with fwcutte, and it is working using the same method in edgy, but it disconnects after a while. any suggestions would be appreciated12:46
sFEARsright right12:46
jmichaelxfwcutter*12:46
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sFEARsthat's a lot of stuff12:47
nagyvsFEARs: those are the already installed packages12:47
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sFEARsyou sure you want all of them?12:47
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nagyvsFEARs: yes (I would like even more! :) )12:47
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sFEARsthey won't all fit in a copy12:48
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nagyvthen do several, just please send them at once to paste.ubuntu12:48
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millersgames12:48
nagyv!games | millers12:48
ubotumillers: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org12:48
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Sannenagyv: can you also paste your packages list for edgy for me? I'd like to have it in case I need to take over, or to help somebody else if needed.12:49
blueyedHi anosa :)12:49
anosahi12:50
larson9999i don't get all this 'pretty' stuff.  is the old desktop we've been using ugly?12:50
sFEARshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3261/12:51
sFEARsseriously.. that's like 26 different pastes12:51
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sFEARsi'd rather just format & reinstall12:51
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nagyvSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3263/ , but remember that I have Hungarian localization installed!12:52
manchickenMmm... hungarian...12:52
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Sannenagyv: thanks, and also for the warning ;)12:53
sFEARshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3264/12:53
surgywhats the kterm command to remove a package ?12:54
SannesFEARs, nagyv: may I suggest... if kate doesn't work, maxbe kwrite or gedit is available for sFEARs as an editor?12:54
jmichaelx'apt-get remove packagename'12:55
Chousukesurgy: they're not "kterm commands". just command line utilities. anyway "aptitude remove"12:55
Chousukeor apt-get12:55
nagyvSanne: we already installed kate12:55
Chousukeaptitude is preferred.12:55
Sannenagyv: then why this painful copy-pasting from konsole? ;)12:55
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nagyvSanne: because it does not start :(12:56
Sannenagyv: that's why I suggest using gedit or kwrite.12:56
anosai m new in kubuntu, how to automatically display computer , home icon?12:56
anosaon desktop12:57
anosain ubuntu we use gconf, what do we use in kubuntu?12:58
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Bxnpthe home icon01:01
Bxnpyou mean for the filebrowser01:01
anosayeah, computer, home01:01
anosalike in native kde01:01
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Bxnpjust put an icon on the desktop for konqueror01:03
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nagyvSanne: there is a problem. The console was not wide enough and there are plenty of linebreaks in sFEARs' paste, so diff can't help much. But what I could conclude is that sFEARs has cc 70 packages, while I had cc 89001:03
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menaHi...any one had experience with Amsn01:03
Sannenagyv, sFEARs: I would just try again to 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', this should pull the remaining packages01:04
RawSewagehow do you configure the Recent Documents panel to show more than 901:04
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menajuano__01:04
nagyvSanne: sorry, but I am really tired now, you have the link for both lists, please work on it with sFEARs (or just let him to do a reinstall). Good night guys!01:05
menajuano__< are you here01:05
Sannenagyv: ok, sleep well :)01:05
SannesFEARs: we will simulate an install command, so I can see the output: please paste the output of the following command to the pastebin: 'sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop'01:06
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slyfoxAnyone here uses skype ?01:09
slyfoxI have a problem, whenever I get a message from soneone in skype, my CPU jumps to full power and I have to wate like 10 seconds for it to unfreeze. I have laptop with Dynamic CPU - intel centrino mobile which works mostly on 800Mhz and jusmp higher when is needed to up to 2.0Ghz..01:11
RawSewagesounds like a sound conflict01:11
menaWhy seince i install firefox my azureus shautdown automaticly.....thats starange what to do01:11
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Legolas_Faolwhere should I copy the flash lib. for konqueror?01:12
terikahow do i chat on yahoo?01:12
menathrough kopete01:12
SannesFEARs: still with me?01:12
Sannehmmm01:13
RawSewagehow do you configure the Recent Documents panel to show more than 901:13
terikafrom how do I connenct though?01:13
JucatoLegolas_Faol: any reason you have to install flash manually?01:13
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slyfoxRawSewage: sound problem? That happens when I get a message, not a call.01:14
Legolas_Faolit doesn't affect using apt-get or adept01:14
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menaterika, open kopete from internet>>kopete them make new profile01:14
RawSewageslyfox, Oh, maybe switch the sound thing to ALSA in Skype or whatever01:14
menathen*01:14
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jmichaelxdoes anyone here know what the proper way is to get a broadcom wireless adapter working well in edgy? it worked fine in dapper after extracting firmware with fwcutter, and it is working using the same method in edgy, but it disconnects after a while. any suggestions would be appreciated01:15
JucatoLegolas_Faol: Flash 9?01:15
slyfoxRawSewage: it is already set to alsa, I doubt it is a soudn issue, as it has nothign to do with sound as it is only a message, not a call.01:15
crazy_penguinnight to all01:15
Legolas_FaolJucato: yes, I don't know why01:15
RawSewageslyfox, ok. idk then01:15
Legolas_Faolit writes "installed" but doesn't work01:16
Jucato!flash9 | Legolas_Faol01:16
ubotuLegolas_Faol: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash01:16
Jucatohm...01:16
Jucatoubotu: ping01:16
ubotupong01:16
JucatoLegolas_Faol: you installed Flash 9 from the repositories? (dapper-backports or edgy-backports)?01:16
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Legolas_Faoledgy01:17
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Legolas_Faolin the end i've copied the libs in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/01:17
Legolas_Faolbut there isn't konqueror01:18
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JucatoLegolas_Faol: when you installed Flash 9 (through edgy-backports), did you go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins and click on Scan for new plugins?01:19
goodseed?01:19
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JucatoLegolas_Faol: I'm presuming you enabled edgy-backports and installed/upgraded to Flash 901:19
malikhow do i get a list of servers in Konversation like they have pre-added in mIRC?01:20
Legolas_FaolJucato:  uhmmmm01:20
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Jucatomalik: there are none, unfortunately01:20
malikhow do i get a list of servers in Konversation like they have pre-added in mIRC.......i mean different dalnet and effnet servers?01:21
Jucatoyou have to add them01:21
malikif there arnt any then how do i add them?...........do i have to it manaully?........if yes then whats the point of Konversation................i am ruined then01:22
brett__anyone familiar with rar files?01:22
malikis there any other IRC client for kubuntu which comes with that?01:22
Jucatowhat's the point of konversation? an IRC client. you add them in File -> Server List -> New01:23
malikbrett__: u have to install unrar package to open em01:23
brett__malik: i did01:23
brett__malik: i am having trouble figuring out which args to use01:23
Sannemalik: if you don't mind using gtk apps, you could try installing xchat (not xchat-gnome!), it comes with a server list.01:23
brett__malik: i have a rar file that has a password on it.... i just want to unzip it-01:23
LjLJucato: well, he as a point, without a handy list of servers, one may as well use telnet :)01:23
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Jucatobrett__: if you installed unrar, you can use Ark to extract/open them01:24
malikJucato: what is gtk?01:24
JucatoLjL: a point that I have nothing against, but nothing I can do either01:24
malikgnome based application?01:24
Jucatomalik: other way around. GTK is the toolkit on which GNOME is based01:25
brett__Jucato: it is having trouble opening it because there is a password... i don't know how to feed it the pass01:25
Jucatoah... hm...01:25
malikaaaah where did u get this file from?01:25
brett__malik: i made it on a windows machien with winrar01:26
malikbrett__: if u got it from torrentspy.com then they come with paswd otherwise u can kiss it goodbye01:26
brett__malik: i have the password01:26
malikHmmmm01:26
brett__malik: it just doesnt ask me for it01:26
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malikand it doesnt open it either?01:27
brett__it gives me an error after trying01:27
vursitishello everyone01:27
maliksorry donno then01:27
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Jucatobrett__: try "unrar x filename.rar" in Konsole01:28
brett__Jucato: you are the man... thanks01:28
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distro-testeri installed skype for windows whit wine but dosen't work u know how to remove it?01:29
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dawncan anyone think of 10 things as to why one should use Ubuntu and *NOT* Windoze Vista?01:32
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cac_yeah01:33
cac_security01:33
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cac_stability01:33
herk1. you don't need to spend two grand on a new computer.01:33
cac_more software01:33
dawnhaha herk01:33
vursitiseverything is free01:33
cac_4. free of viruses01:33
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cac_5. GNU01:33
vursitisyou can run the OS on older machines faster than windoze can run on most newer machines01:33
Sannedawn: funny, I just today read this: http://apcmag.com/5049/10_reasons_not_to_get_vista01:34
cac_6. Linux reads windows packets, windows does not01:34
dawnI read that as well, I was just thinking of something to come up with a counter to using ubuntu vs Vista01:34
cac_7. programs run faster01:34
Sannedawn: ah, heh, ok :)01:34
cac_8. easy configuration of hardware01:35
vursitiswhat configuration?01:35
dawnlol01:35
vursitisplug it in, and most of the time it works01:35
dawnauto-config01:35
distro-testerdo u know how to remove skype for windows i installed whit wine has it dosen't work?01:35
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cac_9. installation cd includes all hardware drives01:36
dawnI just got my Dell 720 printer to function01:36
dawn*drivers01:36
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cac_10. it is spyware protected01:36
dawnspyware, can be wrapped w/ security01:37
cac_spies go easiliy into windows holes01:37
dawnaye01:37
herkI read that "10 Reasons" thing in Maximum PC magazine a month ago . .01:37
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manchickenmmm... GNU...01:37
frojndthere was this command for installing flash for firefox01:37
frojnddo't give me !flash..01:37
frojnd:)01:37
dawnlol01:38
dawnautomatix2 will do that for you01:38
cac_Gnu is not unix, it is linux, linux is freedom01:38
RawSewageis KDE 4 going to be in Feisty01:38
manchickencac_: GNU is not linux.01:38
cac_GNU IS NOT UNIX01:38
manchickencac_: And linux are not GNU.01:38
cac_it's linux01:38
manchickencac_: No, it's not.01:38
cac_be careful when reading01:38
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RawSewageand GNOME is not pronounced NOME.  It's pronounced GUH-NOME01:38
vursitissome could argue that it should be called GNU/Linux01:39
manchickencac_: GNU is a project which has developed several programs that are useful on a variety of operating systems.01:39
cac_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU01:39
manchickencac_: Linux is the kernel.  GNU is the compiler, linker, cp, mv, ls, man, info, etc.01:40
manchickencac_: And GNU works with more than just a linux kernel.01:40
JucatoGNU is a separate project from Linux (kernel)01:40
dawn!gnu01:40
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org01:40
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Jucato(manchicken is one of those that will argue that :P )01:41
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manchickencac_: GNU is even trying to work up their own kernel (HURD).01:41
cac_http://www.gnu.org/home.en.html01:41
Sannedawn: one of my main reasons: GNU/Linux is not primarily motivated by maximazing revenue.01:41
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cac_?Free software? is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of ?free? as in ?free speech?, not as in ?free beer?.01:41
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manchickencac_: Yup.01:42
RawSewageFree software means freedom for software developers to sleep on any street they choose01:42
qRohdehi. I got a problem, I got a friend on a newly installed kubuntu, he Installed Synaptic, and in an attempt to move it's placement in the k-menu he deleted it.01:42
dawnlol01:42
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dawnwhy synaptic?01:43
manchickenRawSewage: Wow.  That was a little ignorant.01:43
RawSewagelol01:43
qRohdewe've craeted a new menu-item, but Synaptic naturally needs root access, how do we make it start with that01:43
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dawnsynaptic and adept are one in the same, well almost01:43
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qRohdedawn, because the default in kubuntu is unstable as hell01:44
grafthelp! my fonts look like garbage... i have that little 'red/orange' shadow problem01:44
dawnunstable?01:44
qRohdedawn, no offence ment, but it just crashes to much01:44
Jucatoit's not *that* unstable01:44
dawndont crash for me01:44
dawnafter 15+ installations01:44
SanneqRohde: I'm using the command 'kdesu synaptic' in the menu and on my panel launcher button.01:44
graftargh... so painful to look at01:45
SanneqRohde: oh, and in the menu you need to check "Run as different user'01:45
qRohdedawn, I've tried twice with no luck, I'm a gentoo-user starting with using gnome and now e17, so I'm as n00b at kde as it is possible01:45
SanneqRohde: but leave the username field empty01:45
qRohdeSanne, thank :)01:45
qRohdeSanne, *tanks01:45
dawnqRohde, listen Sanne01:45
qRohde*thanks01:46
dawnqRohde, listen *to* Sanne01:46
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qRohdeif I can spell :p01:46
SanneqRohde: you're welcome :)01:46
dawnwelcome01:46
JucatoSanne: if you use "kdesu", there's no need for the "run as different user"01:46
Sannelol01:46
SanneJucato: that crossed my mind also just yet... thanks.01:46
dawnok, here is another question. What games if any has anyone been able to install and run?01:46
dawnI have tried tremulous01:47
dawnreminds me of doom01:47
SanneJucato: ah, I see in the menu I don't use kdesu. So that's why I checked the "run as different user".01:47
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graftargh... only my KDE fonts are messed up?01:48
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frojndso guys what's the package name for flash for firefox?01:55
dawnfor anyone that has issues with sound on kubuntu being too low01:55
frojndso I can watch movies from youtube01:56
dawnuse KMIX and push the PCM toggle to 100%01:56
dawn!automatix201:56
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:56
Jucatoflashplugin-nonfree01:57
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Thehound666when editing files via ssh, is there any way to do so with superuser permissions? I'm trying to alter a config file for my remote computer to listen for connections from here02:01
Murchadhgraft, I think you want to turn on or off anti-aliasing in System Settings > Appearance > Fonts!02:01
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Jucatoubotu: ping02:08
ubotupong02:08
graftwhat do you all use for managing wireless connections?02:09
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graftno one using wireless here?02:10
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revdjenkmy wifi is broken in all the latest distros w/ the latest kernels :(02:11
grafton edgy?02:11
revdjenkyep02:12
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graftwhat wifi do you use?02:13
revdjenklocks keyboard, can't enter any keyboard strokes after trying to initialize02:13
revdjenkralink 250002:13
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revdjenkAND computer runs in a two - four second 'stutter'02:14
graftnasty02:14
revdjenkhave to re-boot to recover02:15
distro-testeri created myvirtual machine on desktop what i have to do now?02:15
revdjenkknoppix, elive, kubuntu... all do it02:15
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distro-tester!WMWare:02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about WMWare: - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:17
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distro-testerany one knows how to unistall stuff on wine?02:18
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xsachasame way you do it on windows02:20
distro-testerhow?02:20
xsachaoh, you're one of those guys who uses add/remove programs?02:20
distro-testerno i installed skype for windows but dosen't work02:20
distro-testerand would like to remove it now02:20
xsachawhat's wrong with skype for linux? :)02:21
distro-testerdosen't have skypecast02:22
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distro-testercouse it's old and dosen't have live button to join02:22
distro-testerso im trying to find a way02:22
HammerHeadhey all, can someone tell me how i would go about connecting to my VPN provider?  I am linux n00b :).. like a VPN client or what not>> in windows i just add a vPN server02:23
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distro-testerthe problem versions are very old vs to windows as linux is treated 2 class02:23
distro-testerso u have to try to emulate everything02:23
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distro-testerhi jucato02:24
Jucatohi distro-tester02:24
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distro-testerim doing fine but nead to remove skype for windows i installed whit wine u know how?02:25
distro-testerunistaller diden't work02:25
grumblyhello.  I need some help connecting to a printer on  a windows network02:25
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Jucatodistro-tester: which uninstaller are you using?02:26
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distro-testerthe command to list in console02:26
distro-testerbut diden't work02:26
Jucatodistro-tester: no, you have to use either Skype's uninstaller or Wine's uninstaller02:26
distro-testerok il use wine's how i do that?02:26
grumblycan anyone help with connecting to a cannon printer on a windows network?02:26
revdjenkcan you get on the windows net, first?02:27
grumblyyes02:27
Jucatodistro-tester: is Skype for windows in your K Menu?02:27
distro-testeryes02:27
distro-testerunder lost odbjects02:27
Jucatodistro-tester: does it have an entry to Uninstall Skype?02:27
revdjenkis canon printer shared on the windows net?02:27
distro-testerno02:28
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Thehound666how do I use scp the simple way?02:28
grumblyyes, but it dosn't come up here02:28
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Thehound666keeps asking for arguements02:28
distro-testerif i remove wine and reinstall it afther is it a good idea jucato?02:28
grumblyit comes up as a shared directory02:29
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Thehound666I do this02:29
Thehound666scp user@remotehost:/path/to/file /path/to/destination02:29
revdjenkgrumbly, now I know why you are grumbly !  Don't know what to do from this point...but thought I'd ask the obvious...02:29
grumblyheheh02:30
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Jucatodistro-tester: hm..   no02:30
grumblythanks!  and now I can't get onto the windows network02:30
grumblyargh02:30
revdjenkhee hee02:30
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grumblyohp... there it goes.02:30
grumblyheh02:30
revdjenksorry, that was not directed AT you... just sharing the frustration02:30
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Jucatodistro-tester: in konsole, "cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files"02:30
grumblyman... If I could afford windows, I'd just get it-  please dont kick me02:30
grumblyor I'd buy the printer and put it on locally02:31
revdjenkheh, I've been solid Linux for a year now02:31
revdjenkand know the prob, both ways!02:31
distro-testersays no file or directory02:32
revdjenkcanons are difficult enough just on linux... eh grumbly02:32
grumblyI prefer mac os.  then freebsd.02:32
revdjenkhaven't used either02:32
grumblythis computer is for my parentds02:32
revdjenkah02:32
grumblyit's wicked easy so far, but I cant get it to print a damned thing02:33
distro-testerso what's next jucato?02:33
Thehound666ok figured something out myself.02:33
Jucatodistro-tester: go to the Skype directory in there02:33
Thehound666can use scp in reverse to remote edit a config02:34
Thehound666by doing sudo scp through ssh02:34
distro-testerzen@zen-desktop:~$ wine skype02:34
distro-testerwine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\skype.exe": Module not found02:34
distro-testerzen@zen-desktop:~$02:34
Thehound666just have the edited version on your pc02:34
distro-testerthis is it02:34
distro-testerhow do i enter it?02:34
RawSewageis KDE 4 going to be in Feisty02:35
revdjenkmy i850 worked, but not at highest resolution...sent them a letter about it, hoping more linux contact would help them see the light, but no..02:35
Thehound666it should ask if you want to replace it, I'd think02:35
revdjenkso switched to konica minolta... they produce linux drivers..02:35
grumblysamba is being weird02:36
grumblythe dirs I know i can access arent comming up02:36
grumblythe printer isnt commng up02:36
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Jucatodistro-tester: no, you have to go into the directory I mentioned earlier02:36
distro-testero ok02:36
Jucatoyou're still in your home directory...02:37
grumblyand the only workgroup I am finding is MSHOME but that's not a valid group02:37
distro-testeryes02:37
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distro-testerhow do i enter the directory u said?02:37
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Jucatodistro-tester: cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/02:38
Jucatodistro-tester: then cd into the Skype directory... I don't know it's name so I can't give you an exact command02:39
revdjenkms anything isn't valid.... :)02:39
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grumblythats not so much helping me at this moment02:39
revdjenkyep... will pray for your sanity, grumbly...02:40
distro-testersays no such file or directory02:40
distro-testerill try to remove wine02:41
distro-testersays no file or directory02:41
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graftanyone use kmilo?02:43
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revdjenksee ya all later...02:48
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ffforevercan someone help me with wine?02:48
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sparrhow can i make my right Alt key behave like (Right) Alt instead of like meta/ae/whatever?03:01
_spazare there any drivers for my old Matrox MGA G200 AGP graphics card?03:02
sparr_spaz: almost certainly03:02
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_spazi looked at the manufacturer's site03:03
_spazbut when i try to install it says my version of X isn't supported03:03
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_spazis there some kind of source where i can find graphics drivers for linux?03:05
_spazother than my manufacturer -__-03:05
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BluesKajwhat mnfctr ?03:08
NotSurestrange problem with kdm, upon login it just brings me back to the login screen... anyone have any ideas?03:08
_spazMatrox03:09
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_spazthe card: MGA G200 AGP03:09
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BluesKajhave you tried  http://www.driverguide.com/03:10
_spazno, but thank you03:10
BluesKajyou have to register but it's a fairly decent source03:11
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ajboordeDoes anyone deal with xgl or beryl03:13
ajboordeI cannot get it to work03:13
dwidmann!info xserver-xorg-video-mga | _spaz03:13
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-mga: X.Org X server -- MGA display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.4.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 216 kB03:13
dwidmannajboorde, which?03:14
ajboordeberyl03:14
_spazis that the name of the package?03:14
NotSurestrange problem with kdm, upon login it just brings me back to the login screen... anyone have any ideas?03:14
dwidmann_spaz: yes03:14
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_spazso i use sudo apt-get xserver-xorg-video-mga03:15
dwidmann_spaz: if you're going to get support, it will probably be from that driver.03:15
dwidmannajboorde, details?03:15
_spazwhat do you mean "support from that driver?"03:16
draikWhat do I need in order to have my firefox play embeded audio?03:16
dwidmann_spaz: That's probably the only driver that supports Matrox ... try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and select matrox or mga for the display driver03:17
_spazokay03:17
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Jucato!mozilla-mplayer03:18
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB03:18
Jucatodraik: ^^^03:18
juano__mena03:18
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draikJucato: I already have it installed03:19
Jucatodraik: still won't work?03:19
draikwhen I try to play the audio, I would get a popup that the audio couldn't be played03:20
draiknot it's just silent03:20
juano__draik: try installing other players for mozilla03:20
Jucato:(03:20
juano__draik: try kaffeine or mplayer03:21
Jucatodraik: not sure if you need to install mplayer separately, but I'm assuming you don't have to03:21
draikboth installed and current03:21
juano__draik: ah..03:21
juano__draik: how about totem?03:22
Jucatodraik: mozilla-plugin-vlc or mozilla-helix-player03:22
draikI had totem before but it was just a bit mess03:22
draikJucato: Both installed and current03:22
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juano__draik: what version of firefox?03:23
juano__draik: 2.0 ?03:23
draikv203:23
juano__strange, only firefox issue ? how about other browsers ? and other apps?03:24
draikIt happened before and someone helped me fix it. It's been a while. I forgot who and what03:25
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juano__draik: about:plugins  do the installed plugins appear there?03:25
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draikjuano__: Everything is installed. And also enabled03:26
juano__draik: this happen with flash videos or with every sound?03:28
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draikJust embeded audio03:29
juano__draik: cat /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and pastebin03:29
draikwell, all website audio03:29
juano__draik: ok03:29
draikcat: /etc/firefox/firefoxc: No such file or directory03:29
BluesKajdraik, have you checked FF by typing  about:plugins in the address box03:29
draikBluesKaj: Yes I have. I have a few plugins. All installed and enabled03:30
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juano__draik: cat /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and pastebin thats with an R03:31
draikwhoops03:31
BluesKajdrai03:31
juano__draik: :P03:31
BluesKajdraik,  http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/03:31
draikok03:31
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draikI have it here...03:31
draikit's only 5 lines...03:31
draik# which /dev/dsp wrapper to use03:31
draikFIREFOX_DSP="none"03:31
draik# Note that "auto" and "esd" involve the use of esddsp, which03:31
draik# is known to be buggy and to make Firefox unstable.03:31
draik# See https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/29760.03:31
draikBluesKaj: I have mplayerplug-in installed03:32
juano__draik: well, you can try to change none to aoss03:32
draikone sec03:32
BluesKajok, I'l stay out of this :)03:32
juano__draik: so it would be FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" , if it doesnt change just leave it back in none03:33
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draikok03:33
draikchanged03:33
draik1 sec03:33
juano__draik: launch firefox and try some audio03:33
draikOk. That made the swf file on the page go away03:34
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draikback to "none" I go03:34
juano__draik: ok03:34
juano__draik: sudo aptitude install alsa-oss and FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" was what i found on it03:35
juano__draik: but doesnt seem to work03:35
draiklet me see03:35
juano__draik: sudo apt-get would be here, this was for dapper actually not edgy03:36
juano__draik: the fix i mean03:36
draikOk. no audio and no swf file displaying anymore03:38
juano__draik: change it back to "none"03:38
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draikno audio and a blank spot for the swf file03:39
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menahi friends03:40
menai want to install a style and i have the files03:40
juano__mena: hi there03:40
menajuano__, hi i am the hermit03:41
menajuano__, remeber me03:41
juano__mena: yea03:41
draikI don't know what has caused it to go from viewing swf file and no audio to none03:41
juano__mena: hows it going03:41
menaokay03:41
juano__draik: yea, actually its ilogical if you turn it back to none03:41
menawhen i try ro make  ./configure03:42
juano__draik: try rebooting03:42
draikI mean I get nothing03:42
menajuano__, can you help me03:42
juano__mena: yea shoot03:42
juano__draik: try rebooting , first try sudo killall -HUP firefox03:42
juano__draik: then reload firefox03:42
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menajuano__, why when i make ./configure i had this in the end of line checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:42
juano__mena: what are you compiling?03:43
draikWell, I set it back to "none" and removed alsa-oss and I got my swf to play on the site03:43
menajuano__, i try to install a style but its manualy03:43
draikbut a reboot never hurt anyone03:43
juano__draik: ok03:43
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menajuano__, i must to install it do this ui read it configure then make them make install03:43
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juano__mena: are you running ./configure as root?03:44
menano03:44
juano__sudo ./configure03:44
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menajuano__, okay03:44
juano__mena: try that03:44
draikaside from my regular WTF?!?!?...03:44
menaokay03:44
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draikI'm at 800x600 resolution03:45
menajuano__, same error03:45
menain the end03:45
draikI restarted and this is where I'm at now03:45
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_spazi have a problem now03:45
draikWhat happened to my video resolution of 1280x1024?03:45
juano__draik: what you install before reboot?03:45
draikjust what you told me03:45
juano__draik: you uninstalled that alsa-oss03:46
draikyeah03:46
juano__draik: plus alsa-oss doesnt have to do with video resolution03:46
_spazi installed some graphics drivers, but now it won't go into the desktop03:46
draikbut I also didn't have it installed before and I had great resolution03:46
juano__draik: its for audio03:46
draikright03:46
juano__draik: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:46
juano__pastebin03:47
draikOk03:47
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juano__draik: that resolution error might have been another package03:47
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draikhttp://pastebin.ca/33166903:48
draikI hope we can fix this... This resolution scares me03:48
draikI can't do anything03:48
yuriy!fixres03:50
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:50
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juano__draik: it sais only 640x480 and up too 800x600 in xorg.conf03:50
ForgeAusum what kinda trouble can I get into building slackware into my kubuntu distro?03:50
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ForgeAus(as long as I don't overwrite anything?03:50
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yuriydraik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:50
juano__draik: plus, it sais driver: "nv" that should be "nvidia" check this !nvidia03:51
juano__!nvidia | draik03:51
ubotudraik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:51
draikI just ran that command03:51
draikI'm rebooting... BRB03:51
jgilhi, i'm looking for some advice to play RealMedia movies in kubuntu 6.10 installed on an Amd6403:51
ForgeAussofar most stuff seems to just work... (but mostly I've just extracted binaries from a .tgz and copied them to the place they belong, no source packages working yet)03:52
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juano__draik: ?03:52
draikOH SWEET SWEET HIGH RESOLUTION!!!03:52
ForgeAusinstallpkg seems to want a diff tar version... but that was easy enough to add03:52
juano__draik: lol03:52
juano__draik: what you do to get it back?03:52
juano__draik: only reboot?03:52
draiksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:53
draikthen reboot03:53
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Jucato!xconfig03:53
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh 03:53
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juano__draik: ok, now cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check the driver part, what does it say?03:53
draikJucato: Where were you when I needed this info?03:53
draik"nv"03:53
draikI have "nv" and it works fine03:54
Jucatodraik: um... looking at something else...03:54
draikIf it's not broke, I'm not fixing it03:54
juano__draik: type glxgears in a terminal03:54
Jucato"nv" is the open source driver for NVIDIA. no 3D acceleration stuff03:54
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juano__draik: probably slow gears03:54
Jucatono 3D hardware acceleration and direct rendering stuff03:54
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draikummm... ok03:54
draikIt's not doing anything03:54
draikYup, slow03:55
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draiksorry, didn't see the gears window03:55
surgyhello03:55
surgyim downloading a game called tribaltrouble.sh can i chmod that and install it like a .bin ?03:56
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juano__draik: if your leaving nv your gonna have that slow03:56
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juano__draik: but well, while your not playing games or stuff, you can leave that if you want03:57
draikOk. It's nvidia now03:57
draikLet me reboot03:57
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draikTrial and error04:00
draik"nvidia" removes X04:00
draikso back to "nv" I am now04:00
juano__!nvidia | draik04:00
ubotudraik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:00
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juano__draik: you should read that04:01
draikNah04:01
draikI'm fine the way it is04:01
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draikthank you, though04:01
draikNow if I can get my audio to play04:01
juano__draik: no prob :-)04:01
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juano__draik: are you having the audio problem with every app ?04:02
draikjust ff04:02
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juano__draik: why not reinstall firefox or something?04:02
draikwell, konqueror doesn't show the swf file and doesn't play the audio either, but I never use konqueror, other than as a file browser04:03
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dethklokhow much time would it take for a big noob to set up WoW on kubuntu (dapper)04:05
dethklok!WoW04:05
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:05
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juano__!konqueror04:08
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB04:08
tom47i am wondering what is driving the behaviour that an application opens full screen width?04:09
tom47i dot like it and would prefer another seting04:09
tom47eg firefox ... opens full screen width, i set it to approx half width the next time it opens yep half screen width, BUT the next time it reverts to full screen width04:11
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surgyi have spyware...... on linux...... its a little red sheild in the bottom right corner of my task bar that says my computer is infected04:12
Bxnptom47:04:13
Bxnpyou can do that04:13
surgywhen i right click it it asked if i want to upgrade my computer with registry cleaner04:13
Bxnpspyware surgy you have been drinking04:13
surgyhow do i get rid of this?04:13
surgybxnp: lol i know its weird but its there04:13
Bxnpmake a screenshot of this04:13
tom47surgy are you running wine?04:13
Bxnpi dont believe it04:14
surgybxnp: how?04:14
surgytom47: i was04:14
Bxnpksnapshot04:14
Bxnpi want to see this04:14
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tom47i have had things aimed at windows show up like that while wine was on my pc ... i dont allow wine on it anymore esp as the winehq people are in denial over it04:15
surgyi dont have inet space mind if i dcc it to you?04:15
surgytom47 how do i kill the app?04:16
tom47find its number and kill it04:16
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surgybxnp: on the taskbar bottom right the little red sheild next to konversation's icon04:17
tom47i dont kow how in xfce as i ony oaded up xubuntu-desktop an hour ago04:17
surgytom47: how do i find its number and kill it?04:17
Bxnpand what does it say04:17
Bxnpwhat happends if you right click on it04:17
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tom47surgy best leave you in Bxnp's hands04:17
surgybnxp: "YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED!!!!!!!"  "whould you like to upgrade to registry cleaner?"04:18
Bxnpmy god04:18
underdog5004rofl04:18
surgythe second is if i right click it04:18
Bxnpahahah04:18
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surgyyeah its great huh lol04:18
underdog5004must be talking about windows!04:18
Bxnpthis is so funny do you mind if i post this on my blog04:18
underdog5004hahahaha04:18
Bxnpare you sure you ar running linux04:18
bryceHeya, all04:18
underdog5004Bxnp, gimme your addy of your blog!04:19
bryceTotal noob question for y'all04:19
Bxnpits in   dutch04:19
underdog5004!ask04:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:19
Bxnpwww.postproductie.nl04:19
BluesKajgeezus , adware in kde panel ...unreal :004:19
underdog5004Bxnp, ok04:19
bryceHow does one go about installing ... well, anything in Kubuntu?04:19
surgybxnp im running kubuntu 6.10 edgy im positive and you can post away04:19
underdog5004never ever heard of that...maybe he wined an adware package...04:19
underdog5004bryce, apt-get04:20
Bxnpthanks :)04:20
underdog5004!apt04:20
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:20
bryceI'm quite competent with that *other* OS, but am competely new to linux flavors04:20
menajuano__, are you free i will ask you about something else04:20
juano__mena: sure04:20
BluesKaj!packages04:20
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:20
bryceUnderdog: gonna have to elaborate on that04:20
Bxnpwhat do you want to install bryce04:20
juano__mena: shoot04:20
underdog5004bryce, if you like a gui, try out synaptic04:20
surgyunderdog5004: yeah your right04:20
bryceFirefox04:20
underdog5004!synaptic04:20
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto04:20
underdog5004bryce, sudo apt-get install package-name04:20
surgybxnp how do i kill my spyware lol04:20
tom47bryce you can also use synaptic for a gui interface (under "System" menu item04:20
underdog5004bryce, sudo apt-get install firefox04:20
underdog5004lol04:20
brycehold on - let me see what I can do...04:21
Bxnpoke surgy, do this ps -ef | grep wine04:21
menajuano__, i asked befor why my azureus closed after opening after a while they told me to install java5 and i installed it the same problem happened04:21
surgybxnp: what am i looking for?04:21
Bxnpdo you get something04:21
surgybxnp yes04:21
surgybxnp add to your pm?04:21
bryceUnderdog: do I need to specify a path?04:22
Bxnpyes04:22
menajuano__,so what is the reason04:22
bryceI'm getting "Package firefox has no installation candidate"04:22
menajuano__,Do you have any idea04:22
juano__mena: mmm, i use ktorrent generally, yea, its good to install java5 so azureus has the latest runtime, but could be something else04:22
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bryceusing Konsole terminal shell04:22
juano__mena: let me check04:22
tom47bryce mozilla-firefox04:22
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underdog5004bryce, if you want to...but it should do it automatically...04:22
surgyanyone else want to see a screen shot of spyware on kubuntu?04:22
underdog5004tom47, I'm pretty sure firefox works as well...04:22
tom47ok04:22
bryceSo how does it find the installer pacakge I downloaded?04:23
tom47surgy yes please04:23
juano__mena: does it crash inmediatly after load?04:23
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menajuano__,Some times yes and some times no but it takes about 2 m or less04:23
underdog5004bryce, ummm, I don't know...it'll automatically install for you.04:23
brycehm04:23
brycenot working...04:23
brycedo I need to extract the package somewhere?04:24
underdog5004ok...sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:24
underdog5004bryce, no04:24
juano__mena: did you try a reinstall of azureus?04:24
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menano04:24
tom47surgy what was it called?04:24
bryceInvalid operation mozilla-firefox04:24
bryceoops04:24
bryceforgot something04:24
brycetryhing again04:24
menajuano_, i will try04:24
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surgytom47 no idea something about registry optimization lol04:25
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brycestill not working.04:25
underdog5004good thing that linux doesn't use a registry...does it?04:25
juano__mena: after installing java5 did you reboot?04:25
surgyyeah great thing :)04:25
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menayes04:25
bryceBuilding dependency tree... Done04:25
brycePackage mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:25
bryceThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:25
bryceis only available from another source04:25
juano__mena: ok04:26
menajuano_, ok04:26
bryceUnderdog: I've downloaded FF2.0 package to my home folder04:26
bryceWhat else could I be missing?04:26
underdog5004bryce, ummm, why? FF2.0 is in the repos04:26
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brycethe what?04:27
juano__bryce: why not install it from synaptic?04:27
klimitbreak_chanel espaol?04:27
underdog5004bryce, repositories04:27
underdog5004!es04:27
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:27
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brycedunno how do get there... ;-)04:27
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klimitbreak_how   i get into chanel espaol04:27
underdog5004bryce, open up a konsole and type sudo apt-get install synaptic04:27
indhey..04:27
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brycePackage has no installation candidate.04:28
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underdog5004klimitbreak_, /join #ubuntu-es04:28
juano__bryce: do what underdog sais, if typing sudo synaptic doesnt work04:28
indanyone here ever had installed embedded linux?04:28
underdog5004bryce, synaptic doesn't work?04:28
bryceno, it does not04:28
underdog5004ind, nope04:28
indpebble linux04:28
tom47underdog maybe the repos are wrong04:28
ghostcubebryce are oure source.list is containing any repos04:29
underdog5004bryce, use pastebin and show us your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)04:29
juano__bryce: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin04:29
ghostcubeor is it set to cd04:29
underdog5004!pastebin04:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:29
brycewhoa too much info, guys04:29
bryceremember: I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what I'm doing here ;-)04:29
juano__bryce: no prob :-)04:29
indunderdog-- i think that's the same linux as kubuntu, but no GUI..04:30
underdog5004bryce, ok, in a konsole, type in kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:30
Bxnpi do04:30
underdog5004ind, I've worked w/ a CLI only version...04:30
brycedone04:30
bryceKate open04:30
brycewhat am I looking for?04:30
tom47surgy could you send the screenshot again pls04:31
underdog5004bryce, ok, now select all the stuff, copy it, and put it in pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )04:31
juano__bryce: COPY the contents of this file, entirely and paste it inside the pastebin URL04:31
inddebian based04:31
brycepastebin url...?04:31
underdog5004http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:31
Bxnptom47: about your little problem04:32
Bxnpfirefox and the display dimensions04:32
tom47Bxnp yes :)04:32
brycedone04:32
indunderdog--maybe u can help me how to install c compiler package in pebble...04:32
Bxnpoke do you have firefox started04:32
underdog5004!pebble04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pebble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
tom47i do now04:32
Bxnpput it in the dimensions you want it to have, location and hight and width04:32
underdog5004ind, what's pebble?04:32
Bxnpwhen you done this04:33
tom47Bxnp yep04:33
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indunderdog--there is no optical drive04:33
underdog5004bryce, don't forget to give us the url of your pastebin post04:33
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indunderdog--only use other linux computer to do everything..04:33
underdog5004ind, what is pebble?04:33
Bxnpoke now right clik on the upper window border of firefox04:33
brycehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3292/04:33
Bxnpthen go to advance04:33
brycethat might help...04:33
underdog5004ind, oh, ok04:33
indunderdog--pebble linux is one of the distro of embedded linux04:33
Bxnpand go to special windows settings04:34
underdog5004ok04:34
underdog5004bryce, looking now04:34
underdog5004bryce, uh, there is nothing there...04:34
indunderdog-- only 64MB04:34
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Bxnphave you done this tom4704:34
underdog5004oh, nvm...see it now04:34
bryceworks fine for me...04:34
tom47cant find the special windows setting ....04:34
juano__bryce: no repos in the file04:34
bryceand that means what?04:35
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underdog5004bryce, basically, you need to uncomment (delete the #) all the sources lines04:35
Bxnpwhat do you see if you right click on the upper windows border04:35
juano__bryce: you need repos in there to install software from, these are URLS which you connect to, to download software upgrades, they are servers, etc04:35
Bxnpdo you see the tab advanced04:35
Bxnpand then a sub menu04:35
bryceI think I understand.04:36
tom47Bxnp options starting Maximise ending close04:36
juano__bryce: delete the # in front of every "deb" you find04:36
indunderdog-- do you have any idea to install something in a linux OS at the other partition of your comp?04:36
underdog5004look at it now...that's what it should look like...04:36
bryceThis file essentially tells kubuntu where to find the installers, right?04:36
underdog5004bryce, where to find packages, yes04:36
juano__bryce: yea04:36
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bryceand I can use Kate to edit?04:36
Bxnptom47: you are using kde right04:36
underdog5004ind, I assume you're ssh'ing into your box?04:36
tom47Bxnp oops sorry i am in the wrong area .... i meant to be in xubuntu04:37
tom47Bxnp sorry to waste your time04:37
underdog5004bryce, check it out now...04:37
indunderdog-- sorry, what's "ssh'ing"?04:37
Bxnpno problem, but then my friend you are in the wrong channel indeed04:37
underdog5004bryce, to edit it, close kate, then in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:37
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brycedocument could not be saved...04:38
underdog5004ind, in a konsole, you type in ssh IP-Address to access the pebble box remotely04:38
underdog5004bryce, to edit it, close kate, then in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:38
brycenot possible to write to etc/apt/sources.list04:38
bryceah04:38
underdog5004bryce, to edit it, close kate, then in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:38
juano__bryce: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:38
underdog5004ind, lol, guess not04:38
underdog5004ind, how are you accessing your pebble box?04:39
indunderdog-- i was working on the same comp04:39
underdog5004ummm, ok04:39
underdog5004so, what are you trying to do? install stuff?04:39
bryceSaved  now04:39
indunderdog- i have installed the pebble on DOM (Disk On Module)04:40
underdog5004bryce, ok, now in konsole, type in sudo apt-get update04:40
juano__bryce: ok , now try installing something, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:40
underdog5004ind, oh...I've had no experience w/ that04:40
underdog5004juano__, better to do updates first04:40
indunderdog- the DOM will be taken place in an embedded system04:41
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juano__underdog5004: yea dunno how are updates on his system04:41
brycefirefox seems to have "unmet dependencies"04:41
underdog5004ok...anyways, what are you asking for help w/04:41
underdog5004?04:41
brycesomething about broken packages...04:41
juano__bryce: sudo apt-get update04:41
brycedid that04:42
brycewill do again04:42
underdog5004juano__, It's important to get updates, esp. if all of the repos were blacklisted04:42
underdog5004bryce, sudo apt-get update04:42
brycedone04:42
brycetrying again04:42
juano__underdog5004: yeah04:42
underdog5004bryce, then do sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:42
brycesame result04:42
brycechecking syntax04:42
juano__bryce: cat /etc/apt/sources,list and paste it04:43
underdog5004bryce, ok, post your sources.list again04:43
underdog5004juano__, may work, but it may cut it off04:43
bryceoh - I think I see04:43
brycesome extra junk I think I should have removed04:43
underdog5004what?04:44
juano__underdog5004: its safer a cat , he could save junk in the file if hes gonna paste it only04:44
surgyopen office can read .word files right? so if im sent a file written on MSword i can read it right?04:44
underdog5004juano__, can't save if he doesn't sudo it..04:44
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underdog5004surgy, yep04:45
juano__underdog5004: well he opened it with sudo04:45
underdog5004juano__, ok, w/e...it's really not that important04:45
juano__underdog5004: not at all :-)04:45
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underdog5004bryce, you still w/ me?04:46
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bryceyes04:47
matrix_hi, i have a source packages which seems to be prepared to build a deb. it has a debian directory. how to i build the .deb file?04:47
brycemissed several deb entries04:47
brycefixing04:47
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underdog5004bryce, ok04:47
surgyhi04:48
juano__matrix_: i believe you can make deb packages with alien04:48
surgyok so i restarted kde to finalize my spyware removal and when i clicked log off it said kde crashed and sent the signal "11" whats that mean?04:48
underdog5004surgy, OpenOffice will open word docs04:48
surgykewl04:48
matrix_juano__: i don't want to transfere a rpm to a deb04:48
juano__matrix_: ahh ok04:48
underdog5004surgy, whoa...why did you install spyware?04:49
juano__matrix_: from source to deb04:49
brycegrrrrrr04:49
bryce"malformed line 2 in source list"04:49
brycepasting04:49
matrix_juano__: yes source packages seems to be prepared for building a deb file. but i don't know how to use it04:49
manchickensurgy: What spyware removal?04:49
surgyunderdo5004: its all on Bnpx's blog04:49
surgymanchicken all on hs blog including screen shot04:49
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underdog5004ok04:50
matrix_juano__: i want to prevent a simple make install because i don't like to mess with apt's package control04:50
brycehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3297/04:50
manchickenWhose blog?04:50
surgyto get rid of it i just killed the process and restarted kde and its gone04:50
surgybnpx04:50
juano__matrix_: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92016.html04:50
surgysorry04:50
surgy"bxnp"04:50
underdog5004surgy, is it linux native or did you wine it?04:51
manchickenI don't know who that is.04:51
surgyits windows native04:51
Bxnpyes i have it04:51
Bxnpbut i corrected a few things04:51
Bxnpits spyware04:51
surgyunderdog i thought i was installing itunes04:51
Bxnpand not spy ware04:51
manchickenWhat is spyware?04:51
underdog5004omfg04:51
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surgybxnp: openoffice made that change from spyware to spy ware04:51
underdog5004bryce, ok, that's really wrong04:52
manchickenOH!  We're arguing about what the word is.04:52
manchickenDoes it matter/04:52
bryce*sigh*04:52
brycewhere did I go wrong, Underdog?04:52
Bxnppeople may not know what Konversation is, so i added the irc client Konversation blah blah04:52
Bxnpis that oke surgy04:52
underdog5004you need to have options after the url (main, restricted, universe, multiverse)04:52
Kr4t05Once I compile e17, I need to make a KDM entry, right?04:52
underdog5004!sources04:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:52
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bryceerm.... Can you post a good version?04:53
manchickenmmm... konversation...04:53
surgybxnp: thats fine as long as my original writing is in "" so that they will know you added that04:53
underdog5004bryce, h/o, I'll post mine04:53
bryceThanks!04:53
matrix_juano__: i tried checkinstall but i don't know which correct name to give to the package. i have other packages that requirre it but there is no correct name assigned to it04:54
matrix_juano__: thx for your help04:54
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underdog5004bryce, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3299/04:55
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bryceupdating.....04:55
underdog5004bryce, now delete everything in your sources.list, and paste everything from my pastebin in there.04:56
Bxnp3 min surgy and its there04:56
brycedid that already ;-)\04:56
bryceran sudo apt-get update04:56
surgykewl04:56
brycegot error message:04:56
underdog5004bryce, lol, do it again04:56
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bryceGPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 18B52FE3521A9C7C04:56
brycesomething to worry about?04:57
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brycedid it twice04:57
athenahey04:57
brycesame error both times04:57
athenahaving problems with dcopserver04:57
underdog5004bryce, delete all automatix stuff from the sources.list file...04:57
underdog5004sorry about that04:57
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athenaneed help with dcopserver04:57
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menajuano_, i want to copy to the firefox /sur/lib/firefox and i dont have permison how to copy the file to thier04:57
underdog5004bryce, it's the last entry, just delete the whole line04:58
juano__matrix_: ok, just something i googled up04:58
brycedone.04:58
bryceupdate complete04:58
brycetrying installation04:58
juano__matrix_: no prob :-)04:58
athenano write acces to /home/pvhs/.ICEauthority04:58
juano__mena: sudo cp /...04:58
Bxnpsurgy: its there take a look04:58
juano__mena: use sudo04:58
bryceinstalling....04:58
surgybxnp: link for everybody?04:58
underdog5004bryce, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:59
Bxnphttp://www.postproductie.nl04:59
bryceway ahead of you, Underdog04:59
underdog5004bryce, yay!04:59
menajuano_, okay04:59
athenai retardedly removed /home/pvhs/.DCOPserver_PioneerA__004:59
brycenow, what was that gui you referenced earlier?04:59
hardenI can boot to the kubuntu login screen, but, after entering my pass, the screen goes black and returns me to the gui login box after a few seconds. any hints?04:59
brycesynaptic?04:59
athenaand i need to get it back04:59
brycewhat does that do?04:59
hardenI booted from a live cd to get a working xorg.conf, but still no luck04:59
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athenacan anyone help me05:00
hardenand I've done: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:00
Phlostenharden: if you have kubuntu login screen then xorg is working05:00
indra_underdog05:00
athena.DCOPserver.....error05:00
indra_underdog05:00
Bxnpsurgy: reload your browser05:00
juano__mena: good now?05:00
Bxnpi changed a little thing05:01
surgyok05:01
christopheris there an offical guide on how to upgrade a kernel?05:01
indra_underdog-- are u okay?05:01
menajuano_, no cp missing05:01
indra_underdog-- do you ever use automatix in ubuntu?05:01
indra_anyone here ever use automatix?05:01
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hardenPhlosten: any ideas?05:02
Bxnpanwyay the spyware thing is at http://www.postproductie.nl05:02
Phlostenharden: none whatsoever atm :) *thinking*05:02
underdog5004indra_, I use automatix, but it's verboten in this channel05:02
underdog5004!automatix05:03
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:03
surgybxnp: perfect05:03
juano__mena: sudo cp afile /sur/lib/firefox05:03
menajuano_, i moved the file to the desktop and then i cd th desktop  and then try it commnad not found05:03
Bxnpcant believe it though05:03
underdog5004bryce, everything working ok?05:03
menaokay05:03
brycetrying to launch FF now05:03
bryceinstalling synaptic as well05:04
Bxnphas anybody else ever had spyware through wine on there computers05:04
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juano__mena: sudo cp /home/myusername/Desktop/myfile /sur/lib/firefox05:04
underdog5004direct link to spyware pic     http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/spyware.png05:04
indra_Why verboten?05:04
bryceFF is up!05:04
surgybxnp: neither can it05:04
bryceThanks, Underdog.05:04
indra_underdog--Why verboten?05:04
Bxnpfeel free to comment on the blog, cause nobody else is ever doing it05:04
menaokay05:04
bryceIndra: I'm guessing because of all the problems it causes.05:04
underdog5004bryce, np, remember to pay it forward05:04
bryceAlways!05:04
bryceG'night, all.05:05
underdog5004!automatix | indra_05:05
ubotuindra_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:05
athenaserious error with .DCOPserver....05:05
indra_bryce--what problems?05:05
surgybxnp: will do05:05
underdog5004indra_, that said, what can I help you with?05:05
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menajuano_, done thanks and sorry for disturbing you every time ^_^05:06
indra_ubotu-- what problems?05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what problems? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
underdog5004!ubotu05:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:06
underdog5004indra_, ubotu is a bot05:06
underdog5004indra_, that said, what can I help you with?05:07
indra_o..05:07
juano__mena: lol, no problem :-) anytime05:07
indra_sorry..05:07
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indra_a bot in this koversation..amazing...05:07
underdog5004indra_, what's the problem you're having?05:08
menajuano_, Thanks ^_^05:08
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indra_underdog-- i have installed automatix,but until now i can't use it05:08
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athenacan anyone help with a .DCOPserver error05:09
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underdog5004indra_, how'd you install it?05:09
menajuano_, the azureuz now dont even load i was runing it for a while and i found it closed then try to open and it closed immediatly05:10
indra_underdog-- when loading..there is a message but i forget it...i installed  it by following the step in the automatix web page05:11
juano__mena: mmm... did you try any other torrent clients? try ktorrent05:11
Bxnpsurgy: could you give me the link in the howto05:11
juano__mena: though i know azureus is good ;-)05:11
Bxnpi want to do it myself05:11
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underdog5004indra_, the one for edgy?05:11
menajuano_, But beleive me azureus is the best for torrent download ................i know but its slow as i guess i try and it was too slow05:11
underdog5004what message? put it on pastebin05:11
juano__mena: my azureus seems fine05:12
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surgybxnp: i told you i dont know the url, you can find it on google (i typed itunes setup linux)05:12
menajuano_, thats happened after installing firefox05:12
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menashell i remove firefox05:12
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tamacrackerDoes anyone know where I can get a DCC server?05:13
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Kr4t05!e1705:15
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.05:15
menajuano_,i gues i will emove azureuz and i will use ktorrent05:15
menar05:15
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juano__mena: try removing azureus and reinstalling it05:16
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juano__mena: check synaptic for updates on azureus05:16
menajuano_,No way ~_~05:16
tom47_surgy was it confirmed how you received that spyware?05:16
surgytom47: dont know what you mean "was it confirmed" but i know how i received it, its on bnxp's blog05:17
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tom47_surgy ahh do you have the url?05:17
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surgyonce again....... no05:18
menajuano_,No Update and removed05:18
menajuano_,i mean it didnt find update05:18
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menai will go now thankd juano__ for helping me and thanks all .....Bye With God Bless05:19
athenaneed help with .DCPOserver errors05:20
tamacrackeranyone know how i can learn about DCC servers and how to obtain one?05:20
Bxnpdcc servers05:21
tamacrackeryeah05:21
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Bxnpyou mean an irc deamon tamacracker05:21
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tamacrackerdaemon?05:21
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Bxnpirc deamon05:21
Bxnpyou want to setup your own irc network05:21
tamacrackerno...05:21
beg1689where are the network settings?05:21
tom47_Bxnp would you mind giving the URL of your blog please?05:21
Bxnphttp://www.postproductie.nl05:21
tom47_ty05:22
Bxnpleave commens iff you want cause its surgy big story :) ahahah05:22
matrix_is there an opensouce server compatible with ms exchange server?05:22
beg1689i cant get my computer to connect to the network05:22
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Bxnpbtw its a new blog so there is not much on it05:23
beg1689im using irc on y ds right now its the only thing that i have05:23
beg1689how do i change the settings?05:23
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beg1689please?05:24
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beg1689oh i found something...05:25
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beg1689nothing is working05:28
beg1689my ds connects,but my laptop cant connect with wired or wireless05:29
beg1689worked fine before05:29
beg1689powered down, booted up, no more network05:29
beg1689nobody can help?05:31
Bxnpwhat is the problem beg168905:31
Bxnpno more network05:32
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Bxnpopen up an konsole05:32
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Kr4t05I anyone else using e17?05:34
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Ace2016is that like a nutritional supliment?05:35
Bxnpsurgy: do you have the .exe file wich you downloaded05:35
Bxnpi want to put that on my site asswell05:35
surgybxnp: umm let me see if i can find it05:35
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surgybxnp: yeah i was wrong about the size on the blog05:37
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Bxnpoh how big was it05:39
Bxnpoh i see05:39
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d0uglashi.. installed kubuntu for the first time, worked great, wireless was fine out of the box... went home, same linksys kinda network, no encryption, etc, now the wifi's not working. I can dhclient and resolv.conf gets the right nameservers, i can ping outside ips, i can telnet to port 80 of my router, but i cannot do anything tcp outside of my network. What gives?05:40
d0uglas... plugging into the ethernet works05:41
juano__d0uglas: thats only a wifi issue?>05:41
d0uglasyeah apparently05:41
d0uglasdarndest thing05:42
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d0uglaswifi's fine on my ol' lady's laptop05:42
ceefourgood morning all05:42
juano__d0uglas: when you plug you pluggin in same router and stuff?05:42
juano__d0uglas: when it works i mean05:42
d0uglasyes05:42
ceefouri need help with kdm ..05:43
juano__!wireless | d0uglas05:43
ubotud0uglas: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:43
d0uglasi'm gonna try going into rescue mode or whatever and see if that works, if not, boot off the live cd05:43
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d0uglasall right i'll fire that up first05:43
juano__d0uglas: you should yea, they are usefull05:43
d0uglasAlso, sudoing is all messed up, in kde cant switch to administrator mode to make major changes, gives me some su error..05:45
juano__!root | d0uglas:05:45
ubotud0uglas:: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:45
juano__!kdesu | d0uglas05:45
ubotud0uglas: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:45
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jbruckman!wiki documentation05:46
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jbruckmananyone know where the doc for the wiki format is?05:47
ceefourcan i use kdm with vncserver?05:48
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KristjanShi, i am installing a kubuntu and i decided to do manual partitioning05:51
KristjanShow much swap space do i need?05:51
KristjanSi have 512 mb stick of ram, and my graphics card uses ~64 mb of it05:51
Kr4t05KristjanS: About 300MB should do fine.05:51
KristjanSthx05:52
Kr4t05Rule of thumb, round up from half of your physical RAM size.05:52
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Kr4t05Like, if you have 1GB, take 512 and round up to 600MB05:52
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KristjanSnever heard of this before :)05:52
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Ace2016neither have i05:53
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Ace2016shouldn't you have more swap than ram, like if you have 128mb of ram you need more swap?05:53
ceefourKristjanS: I have 512 + dedicated GPU. I use java apps, VMware, and Beryl ;-) I have 1 GB of swap and sometimes all my physical memory is all used even the swap is used around 500 megs :-(05:54
ceefourAce2016: yeah that's especially true in low RAM configurations ( < 512 MB ). cause with 128 MB that's not going to be enough to run KDE + some apps (with office suite + lots of Firefox tabs open)05:55
KristjanSi remember my computer used to pretty much freeze with default settings sometimes05:55
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KristjanSis it okay to create 1 linux-swap (300 mb), 1 ext3 for ubuntu installation (2gb) and then 72 gb for another ext3, where i store my files?05:57
Ace2016is 2 gb enough for /05:58
Ace2016don't you need more?05:58
KristjanSi don't know05:58
KristjanSthere's a text05:58
KristjanS"Make sure to allocate space for a root partition ("/"), with a minimum size of 2GB, and a swap partition of at least 256 MB.05:59
KristjanS"05:59
unix_infidelgive 4-10 GB for / and then setup another 10-50 for /home and then the rest for junk and media05:59
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KristjanSdo i need to do something special to assign the partition for something?06:00
ceefourKristjanS: if you have minimal at /, make sure to allocate some GB for /usr since when you're installing programs it's very like to install there06:00
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KristjanSthanks, but do i have to something special to allocate the memory for /usr?06:01
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KristjanSand what about primary partition vs. extended partition?06:02
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Ace2016How do i install kwikdisk? there is no kdiskfree package in the repos06:02
Bxnpsur06:02
Ace2016oh wait its called kdf06:03
KristjanSi have a real mess here right now06:03
KristjanSi have 3 swap partitions06:03
Ace2016whats wrong with that?06:04
Ace2016its good to spread it out over several disks06:04
KristjanSi have only one disk06:04
KristjanSi'm on a laptop06:04
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mattikHello, I have disabled services and now my Kubuntu don't want to shut down. What service I have to start?06:07
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ceefourKristjanS: if you're just starting out maybe it's best to just use two partitions. / (maybe 10-20 GB) and /home (as much as you want). / needs to be big enough because I guess you'll be installing lots of apps06:12
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mattikwhat services are most importants in shut down process06:12
KristjanSceefour: i still don't dig this really... is there anything i have to do to assign a partition for "/" and a partition for "/home"?06:13
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akrushello06:14
akrusfsck returning 'unable to resolve uuid'06:14
akruswhat's this? o_O06:14
d0uglasHaving wifi problems, loaded the url one of you mentioned, it's telling me to apt get myself firestarter... apt-get updating;apt-get install firestarter, apt can't find firestarter06:14
dwidmannKristjanS: example: /dev/sdc10       /home   xfs     defaults       0 206:15
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d0uglasdo i have to mess with the sources list06:15
juano__d0uglas: do you have synaptic installed?06:15
dwidmannd0uglas: probably06:15
d0uglasdoing that now06:15
underdog5004d0uglas, uh, I don't think so, I don't think you need that at all...firestarter is a firewall program06:15
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KristjanSdoes it apply for graphical partitioner too?06:16
dwidmannfirestarter is only a frontend for configuring the firewall that is already there.06:16
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juano__d0uglas: are you setting ip right?06:17
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dwidmannKristjanS: Not sure ... kubuntu always felt lacking to me when it came to graphical administration tools06:17
d0uglashmmasdfasdfocjhmm06:17
juano__well that didnt seem good humor06:18
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juano__:P06:18
surgyanyone have any experience with python?06:19
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yuriya bit06:19
dwidmanna bit06:19
surgyi want to learn06:19
surgyany tips or references?06:19
yuriysurgy: have fun: http://docs.python.org/tut/06:20
dwidmann/usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/toc/index.html06:20
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dwidmannbelieve it or not, (k)ubuntu comes with the book dive into python :O06:20
surgyyuriy: thats a broken link :)06:20
Bxnpsurgy: could you send this file again06:20
surgybxnp: i deleted it after i sent it :(06:20
d0uglasso with this wifi business.. my router's fine (just got on with my phone), the linux drivers for the adapter seem fine and dhclient does seem to work, gets the right nameservers in resolv.conf, i can ping outside ips, i just cant do anything tcp except to my router's web server06:21
Bxnpdamm06:21
yuriydwidmann: cool, never knew that06:21
surgyme either06:21
surgyis it suitable to the absolute beginner?06:21
yuriysurgy: i'm there right now *shrug*06:21
surgyyurity: konq says docs.python is not a valid host06:21
surgythere it goes :)06:22
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dwidmannsurgy, about as suitable as it comes06:22
KristjanSif i settle with 4 partitions, then for the media one... do i need to select it to be used for my new installation? and do i need to write anything for the mount point?06:22
yuriythe tutorial is fairly concise, i'd say it leans slightly toward people who already know a programming language06:22
dwidmannsurgy, anyhow, I gave you the link for it :)06:22
d0uglas... iwconfig figures out the router's ssid, gets an ip06:23
menaHow to keep sure that the detevted VGA card is the right06:23
surgydwidman: i saw thank you. is python really hard or something?06:23
menadetected*06:23
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yuriysurgy: i'd say python is just about as easy as programming gets06:23
menabec my vfa card is intel06:23
menaVGA*06:23
d0uglasis there a wifi tcp diagnostic program out there06:23
surgyyuriy: kewl i found a game engine called soya that runs on pyrex and is fully customizable through python it looks pretty promising06:24
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surgydwidmann: all devs listening too, the python guide in kubuntu is out of date but the link is good for the one that is up to date, maybe feisty will have the new one :)06:27
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ceefourKristjanS: well... in that case. just use two partitions, / and swap :-)06:27
KristjanSceefour:http://siimson.eu/kristjan/pildid/screenshotid/partitions.png06:27
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dwidmannsurgy, the installed diveintopython is up to date enough, seeing as it's for python 2.4 (which is preinstalled also)06:28
KristjanSthat's what i have right now06:28
surgydwidmann: really its preinstalled? does it have a gui? and what's it called?06:28
dwidmannIt's a cli app, run it with "python"06:29
yuriysurgy: python doesn't have a gui ^06:29
surgyyuriy: it says it does on the guide, at least for osx and windows06:29
yuriyKristjanS: what you have looks good, but you should make the swap bigger, about a gig06:29
yuriyKristjanS: and specify a mount point for hda7, such as /media/hda706:30
dwidmannsurgy, an other way of starting it is to open konsole, session-> python06:30
KristjanSokay thx a lot :)))06:30
ceefourKristjanS: that's pretty ...... close06:30
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yuriysurgy: that's because windows' command prompt sucks06:30
ceefourKristjanS: i wonder why you made the /home the primary partition, while / is logical ?06:30
surgydwidmann: i did i have python 2.406:30
yuriyso afaik, the python "gui" just provides a window with its own command line06:31
dwidmannWhich makes me go on to think that perhaps feisty should  move to python2.5, I wonder if that decision is/will be made06:31
KristjanSceefour: i didn't mean it to be like that06:31
yuriydwidmann: already moved06:31
dwidmannand if it has, well, in that case diveintopython in feisty is out of date06:31
KristjanSceefour: thanks for driving my attention there06:31
ceefourKristjanS: it's okay though06:31
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ceefourKristjanS: is your hard disk empty06:32
ceefourKristjanS: is there already data/another OS at your harddisk?06:32
KristjanSceefour: yes06:32
surgyyuriy: it says to build this program in python am i suppose to put it into a txt file and save as a different extension or what?06:32
dwidmannaccording to surgy anyhow06:32
KristjanSceefour: but i don't like it ;)06:32
d0uglas_yay i fixed the wifi... just went on the router config, told it to have the ip range start at > ...105 (kubuntu was working on the other router fine and using 192.168.1.104, so forcing it to switch to a different ip i guess got it to forget whatever was confusing it, now i'm on a different ip behind the linksys and viola got my wireless!)06:32
KristjanSceefour: so it's going to disappear06:32
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dwidmannsurgy: create a text file with a .py extension, run it like this: "python file.py"06:33
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surgydwidmann: im assuming this is an interpreted language?06:33
yuriyor just play around with the interpreter directly. but reading the book or the tutorial will be more productive06:33
d0uglasSo.. i just installed kubuntu, used to be a debian guy.. i'd like to add some sources to apt as a lot of things i'm used to getting are not listed in whatever's in there (like bitchx). Bad idea to put in debian sites into sources.list?06:33
dwidmannsurgy: kind of ... it interprets to byte code and then runs it, somewhere inbetween the efficiency of a shell script and java06:34
ceefourKristjanS: maybe it's better to start over06:34
surgydwidmann: so kindof half suitable for gameing ?06:34
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dwidmannsurgy ... depends06:35
Bxnpd0uglas: enable multiverse and universe repo06:35
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KristjanSceefour: i did, but i want to clean up my hdd anyways06:35
Bxnp!multiverse06:35
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:35
KristjanSif you mean that06:35
dwidmannif the actual engine and all critical things are written in c++ and then python bindings are created, then, using python might give acceptable performance06:35
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ceefourKristjanS: create three partitions, in order: / for 30 GB, /home for the rest minus 1 GB, then finally swap for 1 GB.06:36
[abhishek] can anyone provide me the link for opera flash player06:36
Bxnp!tell d0uglas multiverse06:36
Bxnplol06:36
dwidmann[abhishek] : you mean adobe flashplayer, right?06:36
juano__!multiverse06:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:36
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akrus!flash06:36
Bxnpd0uglas:  do you have it06:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:36
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:36
[abhishek] dwidmann: yeah06:36
d0uglasBxnp: yeah, on my coloed debian box which i'm sshed into now06:37
d0uglas... from my newly installed kubuntu box06:37
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ceefourKristjanS: that way should provide you with plenty of space for programs, data, and swap memory and you can worry less about partitioning or when any partition is full06:37
Bxnpoke goodluck man06:37
d0uglasi'm asking if it's a bad idea to put in debian sites into a kubuntu sources.list for apt06:37
Bxnpwell if you are a debian guy06:37
Bxnpthis must be a peace of cake06:38
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Bxnpyes it is06:38
Bxnpdont do it besides that you dont need them06:38
KristjanSceefour: okay06:38
d0uglasokay, so are there some "unofficial" *ubuntu sources that might be a little more liberal as far as what they have?06:38
[abhishek] dwidmann: i am trying to open swishzone.com from opera but is prompting for flash player download06:38
dwidmannd0uglas: should be fine to have them, so long as there aren't conflicting dependencies06:38
dwidmann[abhishek] : do you have flash installed?06:39
ceefourd0uglas: use unofficial repos/sources only for specific needs06:39
[abhishek] dwidmann: can you tell me the package name?06:39
ceefourd0uglas: i recently installed beryl, so I needed to add repositories for nvidia drivers & beryl stuff to install them. and gladly it worked fine :-)06:39
d0uglasceefour: Right.... but where can i get a list of those sources06:39
dwidmann[abhishek] : not really, I just grab it from www.adobe.com06:39
d0uglasi'm feeling a little reckless and i'm not too worried so i'm just gonna toss on some familiar sources and cross my fingers06:40
dwidmannafraid I don't know the package name06:40
ceefourd0uglas: seriously, you shouldn't add sources just because you want to see "what's there". it'll more likely conflict with official ubuntu repos or else you already have06:40
[abhishek] dwidmann: i did that but it is supporting firefox and not opera06:40
ceefourd0uglas: if you need to install some software, use automatix06:40
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d0uglasok06:40
dwidmann[abhishek] : you need to copy the libflashplayer.so file from the firefox plugin dir to /usr/lib/opera/plugins06:40
ceefourd0uglas: otherwise, follow a guide such as ubuntuguide.org06:40
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[abhishek] dwidmann: ok06:41
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yuriyd0uglas: there are basically two semi-official repositories: universe and multiverse.  they should include most of the software that's in debian repos, at least.06:41
[abhishek] dwidmann: let me try06:41
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ceefourd0uglas: there is a possibility to mess up your system pretty bad. and since Linux does currently not have something like Windows's System Restore... ;-)06:41
surgyumm so that first program didnt even run.....06:41
surgylol06:41
jurgensHow do I upgrade from edgy to dapper?06:41
d0uglasi'm just dabbling around in different distros06:41
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d0uglasnot too paranoid about br0king the box06:42
Bxnpyou mean downgrade jurgens06:42
yuriyjurgens: you mean from dapper to edgy?06:42
jurgensOh, no, I mean the other way around06:42
yuriy!upgrade06:42
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:42
jurgensBxnp: I mean from dapper to edgy06:42
d0uglasWell, what about a source for non-free/sketchy/gray-area stuff like w32 codec packages06:42
jurgensthank you ubotu06:42
Bxnpthat is a bit easier06:42
ceefourd0uglas: oh... google "medibuntu"06:42
d0uglask06:42
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yuriyd0uglas: that's actually one you need a debian repo for, the rest is in multiverse06:43
yuriy!restrictedformats06:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:43
d0uglasgotchya06:43
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dwidmannsome of the sketchy stuff can probably be got from the PLF repos06:43
d0uglasi could always just grab the tarbals and compile the old fassioned way06:44
d0uglasnah that's crazy06:44
ceefourd0uglas: if you just try to get most of the convenience stuff easily, install automatix.06:44
ceefourd0uglas: getautomatix.com06:44
d0uglasceefour: doing it06:44
dwidmannby the way, automatix, can really, really screw up your system. I've heard horror stories.06:45
KristjanSso should the root partition be the active one?06:45
ceefourd0uglas: you don't have to mingle with sources.list and you'll be in for lots of surprises.06:45
ceefourKristjanS: yep, the /06:45
ceefourKristjanS: what OS are you using now? or are u currently using the LiveCD? have you had previous experience installing kubuntu?06:46
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KristjanSceefour: i have used ubuntu before, and then i installed kubuntu (not from the cd) and i liked it and decided to make a clean install06:46
[abhishek] dwidmann: thanks buddy...... its workin fine06:49
KristjanSceefour: my last log out from windows xp was on 23:59 on 31st december 2006 :)06:49
ceefourKristjanS: nice06:49
dwidmann[abhishek] : no problem06:49
ceefourKristjanS: i'm still living windowsXP with the help of VMware for Linux :-)06:50
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KristjanSceefour: what kind of applications are you using from windows?06:50
d0uglasi'm in kde non-root and when i try to run other programs as root or switch to admin mode in the control panel it tells me i'm putting in the wrong pw when i am certain i got it right.. is this a kde wallet thing maybe?06:50
d0uglas"Su returned with an error."06:51
d0uglasguess it's a sudo thing06:51
juano!root06:51
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:51
ceefourKristjanS: MS Money 2007. Sync from Sony Ericsson K600. Home designer app. Visual Studio 2005 and my own software(s) using .NET :-(06:51
KristjanSceefour: okay, i've never used any of those06:52
Ace2016How do i configure lilo to boot xp?06:52
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Ace2016xp has the boot thing on /dev/hda106:52
ceefourd0uglas: try opening konsole, then type sudo su, can you get that to work?06:52
yuriyAce2016: kubuntu doesn't use lilo...06:52
Ace2016yea it does06:52
dwidmannno it doesn't.06:53
dwidmann!grub06:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:53
Ace2016if you set the root partition as xfs and do not create a /boot with ext3 or other supported file type06:53
jugheadit looks like grub to me06:53
yuriyoh06:53
Ace2016grub can't boot from xfs so lilo was used06:53
d0uglasceefour: seems to work...06:53
Ace2016!lilo06:53
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.06:53
dwidmannAce2016: interesting, last time I tried to do t hat, it just failed.06:53
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Ace2016so how do i configure lilo?06:54
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juanoAce2016: a lilo.conf in /etc maybe06:54
ceefourd0uglas: are you sure you're typing YOUR own password when kde su pops up?06:54
yuriythere is a control center module for it that you can install06:54
KristjanShttp://siimson.eu/kristjan/pildid/screenshotid/partitions_3.png06:54
yuriy!info lilo-config06:54
ubotulilo-config: KDE frontend for lilo configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 107 kB, installed size 384 kB06:54
surgyi've been thinking about making a driver installer (someday) for kubuntu to install graphics drivers, whould this be legal? and if its not why isnt there one? im talking about a gui that lets you select ati or nvidia and installing the repos and the driver automaticly then restarting X for the user06:54
d0uglasceefour: i think i'm getting warm, tweaking up visudo now06:54
Ace2016thanks06:54
ceefoursurgy: there are stuff like that.06:55
Ace2016Oh and i used the alternative install disk so it may have been that06:55
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ceefoursurgy: check ubuntu.beryl-project.org06:55
ceefoursurgy: they have some 20-line script that installs all the drivers AND installing beryl AND autoruns beryl at startup.06:56
d0uglasceefour: bam it worked ;)06:56
yuriysurgy: isn't that what automatix does? (i've never used it)06:56
ceefourd0uglas: what did you do?06:56
surgyceefour: i know i used it but im talking bout a graphicle thing like point and click06:56
d0uglasceefour: added my user name into the sudo-able user list or whatever in visudo06:56
d0uglasvoila, now it works06:57
ceefoursurgy: well, for that you have automatix & easyubuntu06:57
surgyyuriy: i heard automatix auto installs a bunch of garbage and can cause instability so i never even looked at it06:57
ceefourd0uglas: congrats. now u know users must be put into sudoers list before they can sudo06:57
surgy!easyubuntu06:57
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu06:57
surgyceefour: thats still a script06:58
yuriy!automatix06:58
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:58
surgyceefour: im talking about pure point and click06:58
d0uglasyeah i'm learning quite a lot with this whole kubuntu thing06:58
yuriywow that's a pretty cruel description06:58
d0uglashmm automatix2 was already on06:58
surgyyeah thats why i havnt looked06:58
d0uglasaww legal threats about codecs make me sad :(06:58
ceefouryuriy: i agree. it describe that negative even in the first sentence.06:58
ceefouryuriy: rather than describing what it does, it says "tries to install some software". not very good PR speak ;-)06:59
ceefoursurgy: proprietary drivers & stuff are against the Ubuntu spirit... :-(06:59
jurgensHEY, I'VE JUST FOUND OUT: SECONDLIFE WAS OPEN SOURCED AND NOW IS GPL!!!07:00
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surgyceefour: then with nvidia's open indulgence in opengl why hasnt a non proprietary driver been written?07:00
surgyjurgens: but still requires a subscription? or is there private servers now?07:00
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dwidmannsurgy: because they want to "protect their intellectual property", more realistically, I think they're afraid ATI will steal it and actually have drivers that work :O07:01
surgydwidmann: but reverse engineering is possible and legal, why isnt there a open source  driver?07:02
ceefoursurgy: philosophy, business, competition, money, etc. stuff are complicated. we users/customers just can "sigh" about what these guys do07:02
jurgenssurgy: I don't know if it's only the client or the servers too, but it's a huge step, seeing that the free software community has nothing similar anyway07:02
n8k99_it's only the clients for now that are gpl'd07:02
surgyjurgens: we have private game servers everywhere07:02
dwidmannsurgy, there is. See the nv driver. The vesa driver also works.07:02
Lynouresurgy: Because too many people are happy using the binary-only?07:02
ceefoursurgy: there *IS* an open source driver. that's why when you install Ubuntu on a nvidia card "it just works". it doesn't have acceleration though, but that's underway07:02
surgyjurgens and they are mostly legal if they are kept private07:03
jurgensAnyway, it's terrific news and I wonder why I didn't see it on the (free software related) news!07:03
n8k99_but not all of the libraries and dependencies are gpl'd07:03
surgyceefour: it is in the works though right?07:03
jurgenssurgy: Private Secondlife servers??07:03
ceefoursurgy: Mark.S's plans is to push commercial vendors to open their drivers by getting as many ubuntu installed as possible.07:03
surgyjurgen: no private wow servers and eq servers an uo servers and the like07:03
jurgensn8k99_: That'd be impossible07:04
surgyceefour i am trying to convert people in my family since i am the hardware techy for my family07:04
jurgensn8k99_: What do you mean not all libs are GPL'd?07:04
n8k99_jurgens: not from what I understand from a developer who is working on the ppc linux clinet for second life07:04
ceefoursurgy: e.g. if ATI/Intel can be accelerated on ubuntu upon first install, and that doesn't happen with Nvidia, and there're many ubuntu customers, Nvidia will be forced to "give up" their drivers07:04
dwidmannbe back soon07:04
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jurgensn8k99_: Probably they're still in the process. Just like Java.07:05
n8k99_some of teh graphics libraries are not free - which means they have to use a different set07:05
surgyceefour: i understand, i just think that they make enough money off there hardware and there giving away the drivers anyway i dont understand the reason behind hiding the source07:05
ceefoursurgy: Ubuntu as it is now requires "a change of mind". it is very difficult to use Ubuntu while still retaining "legacy stuff".07:05
surgyceefour: its not like ati has access to there GPUs or anything07:05
ceefoursurgy: well, the driver's source is still a driver's source. there are lots of code in a driver. and that ain't "easy".07:06
ceefoursurgy: competition is very bloody nowadays.07:06
surgyyea07:06
ceefoursurgy: seriously nvidia doesn't want to be the next 3dfx.07:06
surgyanyways i have alot of reading to go through07:06
surgylearning python07:07
n8k99_jurgens there is a project called OpenSL that is working on a full frre version of the client07:07
d0uglascups is picking up my canon ip6220d, but it ain't got the driver for the same model. Canon's website of course doesn't have it either. Where might I look or does anyone know of a safe/generic canon one to go with or perhaps a free open driver?07:07
ceefoursurgy: for users though, well they shouldn't care. all they care is that their hardware works. and for that matter you can have www.nvidia.com that provides them.07:07
d0uglasit's a simple inkjet with one of those tiny tv screens07:07
n8k99_http://opensecondlife.org07:07
ceefoursurgy: actually, installing linux-restricted-modules solves lots of the problems, including GLX.07:07
surgyceefour: yeah thats what i do07:07
surgyill be back later to continue this convo07:08
jurgensn8k99_: Wow, cool! Not related to Secondlife, the company, right?07:08
n8k99_correct07:08
d0uglasHmm canon does have a mac osx driver, since that is *nix based, might i get lucky?07:08
ceefoursurgy: seriously, when you compare winXP to ubuntu, which one is easier to install? I've installed an L30 Toshiba with WinXP SP2 and none of the hardware work except the Ethernet (THANK GOD!). sound, video card, etc. NONE WORKS!07:09
jurgensn8k99_: I wish they also opened the servers, that'd be a revolution07:09
ceefoursurgy: I bet had I installed Ubuntu there everything will just work. I can't believe people say Windows is much easier.07:09
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ceefoursurgy: the only reason why Windows is easier to install is because the PC is already preinstalled AND preconfigured with windows upon purchase07:09
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n8k99_jurgens there is some talk of that happening down the roadmap07:09
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n8k99_but for now it is only talk jurgens07:10
surgyceefour: ubuntu is awsome, and everything works soooo much better, but there are small things that turn people away like drivers and proper DX emulation that is just daunting for a noob07:10
jurgensn8k99_: You mean even the company is considering that???07:10
n8k99_http://i386.kruel.org/blog/?p=230 that's about a LinuxPPC build07:10
surgyceefour: took me like 75 tries just to get my driver to work and i walked away from ubuntu like 30 times and this time im finnaly satrting to learn07:10
n8k99_IIRC that is what accompnaied teh original annoucement07:11
n8k99_Linden Labs looks forward to opening the source in order to grow teh community even further07:11
n8k99_it saves tehm development time for all teh various platforms that are availbile07:11
jurgensn8k99_: Certainly.. and I hope they won't be discouraged by opensl07:12
n8k99_jurgens from what i have seen thus far they have not been07:12
jurgensn8k99_: They don't deserve being forked, at least not yet. They've already been kind enough to our community, especially considering their client, which had feature parity with the windows one07:12
n8k99_jurgens no mention of fork on my behalf - i was just suggesting that rather than having to do all teh development for linux, solaris, sparc, ppc, tabletpc, pocketpc, nokia n800, etc07:13
n8k99_the OSS community will be more than happy to handle all teh crazy ports07:14
jurgensright07:14
n8k99_cuz it means they'll get to run it on their hardware07:14
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n8k99_http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/second-life-client-gpld-two-weeks-later07:15
ceefourn8k99_: i think we should think about having game servers streaming videos right through our desktop07:15
ceefourn8k99_: is there something like this already?07:15
ceefourn8k99_: I think that'll make DreamWorks quality game visuals available much faster07:16
n8k99_i'm not quite certain what you mean?07:16
n8k99_ceefour do you mean to play console quality games over the network?07:17
KristjanSkubuntu installed, restart07:17
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ceefourn8k99_: nope, *DreamWorks* quality. I meant 3D games07:17
ceefourn8k99_: like Second Life07:17
ceefourn8k99_: all this time games are limited by our graphic cards. and they're not cheap. they're even much more expensive than the price of our CPU07:18
n8k99_ceefour well, your graphics cards will still play an integral part in the streaming verson as well - what do you think will be translating the streaming code into graphics?07:18
ceefourn8k99_: and now that people are more likely to use laptops. they want games too and at this moment is quite unlikely07:19
ceefourn8k99_: true. but now graphic cards are very fast at decoding video formats. much more than rendering zillions of triangles. besides, which one looks better, your several years old of Titanic's DVD or your current game screenshot in 2007?07:20
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n8k99_ceefour it does seem to me that this is something that is under development, and quite heavily in the commercial world  at that07:20
ceefourn8k99_: i'm thinking about game servers rendering the frames using their mumbo jumbo servers (to get DreamWorks quality screens) and streaming these to us.07:20
n8k99_ceefour i wouldn't know - my hardware is all at least six yearsold07:20
ceefourn8k99_: this will make games playable in all hardware. be it windows, linux, playstation, etc. hardware vendors will cry but game vendors will be rich (IMHO)07:21
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n8k99_ceefour except for the high over head they will have to pay to stream all that content over networks07:21
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ceefourn8k99_: GAMERS ARE rich guys. I really think so. Why else would they pay subscription to WoW, buying the latest gfx card and stuff?07:23
n8k99_the more popular the game the more bandwidth their network will require-- and the more popular games will have much higher quality grafix ==> more data to compress07:23
ceefourn8k99_: as long as they pay the game vendors the game vendors will be happy07:23
ceefourn8k99_: we're already streaming tons of YouTube today.07:23
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n8k99_sure i believe you ceefour07:23
ceefourn8k99_: we're now heading to video-on-demand, Apple TV and stuff. which will customers pay higher: 1 hour of CNN news or 1 hour of multiplayer gaming session?07:24
jugheadhello, I use Kubuntu and would like to have beryl-manager start every time I log in.  where can I configure autostarted applications in KDE?07:24
n8k99_youtube is nothing compared to *Dreamworks* quality 3d games which require multiple interactions over nanosecond switches07:24
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ceefourjughead: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager07:25
ceefourn8k99_: agreed completely with you. we need better bandwidth.07:25
ceefourn8k99_: but I believe game companies will be willing to subsidize that. much more than the media can for TV/HDTV/whatever07:26
jugheadthanks ceefour07:26
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n8k99_ceefour- us telecos will have to get out of the way in order for us to better bandwidth07:27
n8k99_ceefour and they are too invested in copper07:27
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ceefourI heard you guys have 6 Mbps links there for home. I guess that's quite enough for DVD quality playback07:28
ceefourYesterday I tried streaming using VLC. It's damn good.07:28
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ceefourn8k99_: what I think to (K)Ubuntu is that this will "lessify" Windows dominance in the gaming marketplace.07:29
n8k99_ceefour not just gaming07:29
ceefourn8k99_: and *seriously*, I think gamers are more key to Ubuntu widespread not Office people.07:29
ceefourn8k99_: what do you have in mind? you're playing second life so I guess you know a lot about this matter07:30
n8k99_ceefour that seems to be a plausible theory07:30
n8k99_ceefour- no games here - i'm an information head07:30
n8k99_ceefour and write music/make art07:31
pppHi.07:31
n8k99_hi ppp07:31
ceefourn8k99_: really? so I guess you're excited about the upcoming Ubuntu Studio?07:31
ceefourn8k99_: you should help their project into reality. done right, I believe that'll kick some ass.07:32
pppWhen i run winecfg, i get 'Failed to open the service control manager.'07:32
ceefourhi ppp too07:32
n8k99_i've been watching that develop ceefour07:32
ceefourn8k99_: but at this time I'm quite pessimistic. the media world is something very coupled with proprietary formats and stuff. it will be very difficult to get this into the spirit of ubuntu.07:33
ceefourn8k99_: especially if they're forcing the "free beech" philosophy (free beer+speech).07:34
ForgeAusgrrr how do I get around package breaking?07:34
ceefourForgeAus: what package?07:34
ForgeAusuae07:34
ForgeAusthe upgrade adept says will break packages07:34
ceefourForgeAus: dunno about that07:34
n8k99_ceefour there seems to be a general tidechange that is happening - and the proprietary aspects of multimedia will be broken07:34
n8k99_ForgeAus: are you using feisty?07:35
ForgeAusnot yet07:35
n8k99_edgy?07:35
ceefourn8k99_: really, so they'll incorporate some proprietary stuff?07:35
ForgeAusyup07:35
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n8k99_ceefour: no i mean global drm and the like will go bye bye quick like07:36
ceefourn8k99_: I guess there's a need for us (Ubuntu guys) to realize that users need transition period.07:36
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ceefourn8k99_: oh i see. i guess that's the future. but for legacy stuff, and currently, we still have to live in the lockin world07:37
ForgeAushmmm also console common and console-data break my *.desktop packages (ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu)07:37
n8k99_ForgeAus: its best to try not to subvert breaking a package with adept, generally means it fudge your system if you do07:37
ForgeAuserm *-desktop sorry07:37
ForgeAusI don't want to SUBVERT it I want to make it happy!07:37
ForgeAuswithout breaking things!07:37
n8k99_ceefour: sure, but linspire will be releasing easy installation methods for restricted codecs across several distrobutions07:38
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n8k99_ForgeAus: hmm.. usually, if adept tells me that it will break packages, i try to use apt0get07:39
n8k99_ForgeAus: that gives me more feedbackon what excatly is the problem and occaisionally, I am even able to get the right dependencies to install07:40
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d0uglastrying to install superkaramba... getting configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check07:41
d0uglas(hi)07:41
n8k99_ceefour i think the most exciting part about UbuntuStudio is they will have a kernel preconfigured to handle mutlimedia apps like softsythns07:42
ceefourn8k99_: really. that's cool...07:42
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n8k99_ceefour that's what it looks like to me07:43
asdfghow to find out what dns i'm using in kubuntu?07:43
d0uglasasdfg: cat /etc/resolv.conf07:43
ceefourn8k99_: i'm quite worried about a lot of stuff actually. with that.07:43
ceefourn8k99_: even office users can't do with OpenOffice...07:43
asdfghow i find out what's my isp dns?07:44
ceefourn8k99_: what would photoshoppers do without Photoshop? And videoers do without Premiere? And sounders without ACID/Sound Forge?07:44
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n8k99_ceefour currently I use the gimp, jahshaka, and Audacity07:45
ceefourn8k99_: IMHO what I really think, if Ubuntu can't breach through the professional market, it should make it into the education market07:45
Jucato!superkaramba | d0uglas07:45
ubotud0uglas: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org07:45
Jucato!info superkaramba | d0uglas07:45
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB07:45
ceefour!install superkaramba | ceefour07:45
Jucatod0uglas: superkarama is in universe. you need to enable universe to get it07:45
d0uglas!universe07:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:45
d0uglas<-- day one of kubuntu07:46
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n8k99_welcome07:46
d0uglashour 3207:46
ceefourd0uglas: keep hanging around and you'll have many days with kubuntu :-)07:46
Jucatod0uglas: ok... welcome aboard. tip #1: don't try to compile things yet unless absolutely necessary :D07:46
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d0uglasjucato yeah i know but i was coming up dry on apt07:46
d0uglasso i figured what the hell07:46
Jucatod0uglas: if in case you couldn't find something in apt, try http://packages.ubuntu.com07:47
d0uglask07:47
d0uglas.com, huh07:47
dwidmannJucato, or unless you're some sort of, y'know, masochist or something07:47
Jucatochances are, you might not have the proper repositories enabled. Ubuntu has over 20,000 packages. they wouldn't leave out superkaramba :D07:47
d0uglaswell obviously i need to tweak my sources07:48
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n8k99_g'dnight all!07:49
d0uglasyup, there's karamba07:49
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d0uglasgotta have eyecandy for momma.. doing a switcharoo on her crashed xp laptop07:49
d0uglasthought i'd go with kubuntu over debian07:49
d0uglasAhh .. picoing sources.list, gotta uncomment a line or two to get into your "universe"07:51
Jucatoyep07:52
d0uglasapt-get update;apt-get superkaramba, bingo.07:53
d0uglasHow about an MS ActiveSync substitute for my phone?07:54
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menahi again07:54
kristjanshey07:54
ninoanyone know how to view a .vsd Microsoft visio file?07:54
nino!.vsd07:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:55
Jucatonino: try Kivio07:55
ninok lemme see!07:55
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kristjansi just installed kubuntu, now should i get the latest intel drivers?07:55
menai opened my moniture and plugin option then i found the detected vga card is i 810 then i press configure then i found its telling me the dected hrdware is intel 915 so what is wrong here07:55
kristjansand then 915resolution07:55
d0uglasLooks like whatever battery monitor/power management thing that came with edgy has underclocked my processor in half even when plugged in.. what's the name of this thing so i can uninstall it?07:57
d0uglasthe default laptop battery/power monitor thing07:57
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d0uglas... which may or may not be responsible for the throttling07:57
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d0uglaswell i'll just disable it and get the powernowd thing, envermind07:58
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menaany idea07:59
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kevinhey, this is a pretty lame quesiton, but I never learned how todo it, how do I change the permissions on a directory from only allowing root to access it, to allowing a user to access it using chmod?08:00
Jucatokevin: what directory?08:01
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kevinIt's just some files copied over from my windows parition08:01
dwidmannchown = change owner08:02
Jucatokevin: sudo chmod -R <new onwer>:<new group> directory/08:02
Jucatoer.. chown08:02
Jucatosorry08:02
kevinI ran mv to move the directory over, and now chmod to change the permissions, I get how to add r,w,x etc. but I don't understand how to change permissions08:02
kevinOkay, going to try that now, thank you : )08:02
Jucatokevin: just don't go doing that to other root-owned directories like /usr, /etc, etc08:03
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kevinYup, I know08:04
ceefour!man chown08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about man chown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
ceefour!help chown08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help chown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
Jucatoceefour: the bot doesn't do man pages. you  have to do that locally08:05
Jucato(on your computer)08:05
kevinGrrr, it's telling me no such directory, I'm in /Desktop and the folder is on my desktop08:05
kevinI typed :08:05
jionWhat is the console command to see running proccess08:05
dwidmannps08:05
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kevinsudo chmod -R <kevin>:<users> portal/    portal being the name of the directory08:05
Jucatokevin: chown08:06
jionthnk08:06
Jucatoand don't include the < >08:06
kevinNo, I know not to include those, lol08:06
kevinOops, wait I see what I did I think08:06
Jucatosudo chown -R kevin:users portal/ (presuming  there's a users group)08:06
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kevinOkay, it just ran that command08:07
kevinBut it still won't let me access it08:07
dwidmannsudo chmod 700 -R portal/08:08
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kevinOkay.. now that worked but it won't let me access it directly from my desktop08:09
kevinHow werid...08:09
kevinohhhh well, I got access to what I needed, I'm sure I can figure this much out at least08:11
kevinThanks for your help guys kids : P08:11
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crazy_penguingood morning (hopefully)08:17
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dwidmannstill the middle of the night here :s08:18
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krautmoin08:20
jurgenscrazy_penguin: Why do you hope it's morning?08:21
crazy_penguinjurgens: i hope that it will be a good morning08:23
crazy_penguinbecause i didn't sleep from yesterday morning08:23
kristjanshow do i make kde load "sudo 915resolution mode 7e 1280x800" on the startup?08:25
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dwidmannkristjans: perhaps you could put a script in ~/.kde/Autostart08:27
kristjansand then chmod it ;)08:28
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_lordtweety_I posted in your blog Bxnp :)08:37
Bxnpyes i saw i have to aprove it08:37
Bxnpbut i will do it know08:38
_lordtweety_cool08:38
Bxnpnow08:38
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geniiJucato :)08:47
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Ayabarais korganizer/kalendar the way to go if I need a calendar application?08:48
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dwidmannAyabara: probably08:48
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crazy_busToday for some reason my sources are taking a long time to update.  Up to 4 minutes where it used to take 6 seconds.  Does anyone know the reason?08:53
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dwidmanncrazy_bus, well, if there really are updates, it usually takes a bit longer, and perhaps the mirrors are bogged down or something08:55
crazy_busfor some reason the speed has being 5 bytes a second08:56
geniiIf you have default repos in there it could be a long ways physically from where you are...New Zealand in fact08:57
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crazy_busAlso I know can't install anything anymore.  I get this error:08:57
crazy_busErrors were encountered while processing:08:57
crazy_bus libltdl3-dev08:57
crazy_busProcessing was halted because there were too many errors.08:57
crazy_busE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:57
craftycornerI have a question08:57
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dwidmannCrafty, just ask it08:59
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craftycornertrying to do a pastedump and it's asking me syntax09:00
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craftycornernewbie here.   how do i know what syntax my dump is09:01
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dwidmannjust leave the syntax as none09:01
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craftycornerk09:01
pa0lohi all, can you suggest me a good graphical ftp server?09:01
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3310/09:02
craftycornerdoes this mean I've got a 2.0 USB port?09:02
craftycornerI don't mean to sound dumb09:02
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craftycornercuz i don't wanna buy a USB 2.0 pen drive and not be able to use it09:05
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dwidmannHmm, looks like that's what its saying.09:06
dwidmann480 mbit/s = ~48mb/s = usb2 max speed09:07
orient2000Does anybody knows any good rip program to rip my cd's to mp3?09:07
craftycornerhey, thanks!  cuz the computer guy made this computer said i only had 1.0 but he may not have known that I had more USB ports activated (before I learned to do anything 4 myself.)09:07
dwidmannorient2000: k3b09:07
orient2000thanks09:07
dwidmannorient2000: of course, you'll need lame install to do the mp3 encoding09:08
craftycornerttyl09:08
Bxnp-awaydwidmann: grip is a nice simple program to do that09:08
orient2000where can I get lame? I remebmer I had this problem long time ago.09:08
Bxnp-awayapt-get install grip09:08
dwidmannBxnp-away: so is kaudiocreator. I just like k3b because it seems to be a bit faster.09:09
Bxnp-awaylol, just gave an alternative09:10
dwidmannBesides, for the typical user in this channel, k3b is already installed :)09:10
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Bxnp-awaytrue09:10
Bxnp-awaygppd thinking09:10
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pa0lohi all, can you suggest me a good graphical ftp server?09:10
Jucatokonqueror, kftpgrabber09:11
dwidmannjucato, konqueror isn't quite an ftp server :O09:12
Jucatoah server... sorry09:12
JucatoI was thinking ftp client :P09:12
dwidmannindeed09:12
orient2000I have it since I used Animatrix2; ** (process:19968): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed09:12
dwidmannI doubt you'll find a graphical ftp server pa0lo, maybe a gui with which to configure an ftp server if you're lucky09:13
ceefourpa0lo: dwidmann: I remember warFTPD, is it still around?09:13
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dwidmannceefour: if it is, it's not in ubuntu's repos09:14
Jucato!info lame | orient200009:14
geniiSome webmin module for ftp won't care what backend you use09:14
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB09:14
ceefourgenii: I don't even realize that ubuntu has webmin?09:17
orient2000grip is working. I will see the results.09:18
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dwidmannceefour, ubuntu has lots of things ..... 20000+ somethings to be slightly less vague.09:19
genii!webmin09:19
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.09:19
geniiApparently been superceded by something else09:19
genii!usermin09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usermin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
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geniibah09:20
dwidmannYes, but what :\ That description could have been more helpful09:20
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crazy_busDoes anyone know how to fix my package manager?09:23
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crazy_penguincrazy_bus: what is the problem?09:25
dwidmanncrazy_bus: yes, but doing so would most certainly require you to tell people in which way its broken.09:26
crazy_busI told before :)09:27
dwidmannthat certainly isn't helping me now x_x09:27
crazy_busI was trying to install something but it wan't downloading so I closed the terminal.  Now it won't install and comes up with this error; E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:27
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crazy_busI think I may have fixed it with apt-get clean, as it's now redownloading the packages.09:28
dwidmannapt-get clean would probably help09:28
lexua1where have all the kcontrol entries moved to in feisty kubuntu?09:28
dwidmannif it had a half downloaded package that could really screw with things09:28
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dwidmannlexua1: you can still use kcontrol .... believe it or not, much of what you might be looking for isn't present in kde-systemsettings09:29
crazy_busThe error is still there09:29
dwidmanncrazy_bus- You'll probably have to remove whatever package it's complaining about09:29
dwidmannthen reinstall it.09:29
lexua1dwidmann: my kcontrol has 2 entries.09:29
genii!gnupanel09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnupanel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
geniihmm09:30
dwidmannand here ubotu says he's all knowing. Feh.09:30
lexua1dwidmann: what's the shell command for kde-systemsettings ??09:31
dwidmannlexua1: systemsettings09:31
crazy_busIt complaining about libltdl3-dev.  But apt-get remove wont uninstall it09:31
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dwidmanncrazy_bus: try dpkg --purge09:31
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crazy_bustype this? dpkg --purge libltdl3-dev09:32
orient2000grip converts to ogg format. In setup ~/mp3/%A-%d.m3u How can I change it so it does to mp3?09:32
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dwidmanncrazy_bus right09:32
lexua1any reason why kcontrol is practically empty?09:32
dwidmannlexua1: perhaps an upgrade went bad, or something?09:32
crazy_busIf I do that I get this error:09:32
crazy_busErrors were encountered while processing:09:32
crazy_bus libltdl3-dev09:32
crazy_busProcessing was halted because there were too many errors.09:32
lexua1fresh install09:33
lexua1dwidmann: is your kcontrol full?09:33
dwidmannIt is.09:33
orient2000!lame09:33
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB09:33
lexua1feisty?09:33
dwidmannedgy09:34
lexua1aaah09:34
dwidmanncould be a feisty problem, if herd2 is like that, perhaps a bug should be filed if one hasn't already been09:34
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dwidmannlexua1: take a look at kcmshell --list and see what all it gives you09:35
crazy_busIt tells me to sudo apt-get autoremove.  But when I do it comes up with the same error as the install problem.  The packages it wants to autoremove are related to the one I was trying to install.09:35
dwidmanncrazy_bus: let this serve as a reminder not to kill the process midway through an install :\09:36
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crazy_busBut the thing hadn't started download loading after leaving it for 5 minutes09:37
dwidmannOdd.09:37
crazy_busSo is there anyway to fix my problem and remove libltdl3-dev?09:38
lexua1The following modules are available: obex - OBEX device configuration tool09:38
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dwidmannlexua1: if that's all kcmshell --list gives you, well, you're in trouble.09:38
lexua1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/7682509:39
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[nige] hi all09:41
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dwidmannhi [nige] 09:42
[nige] anyone know a good keyboard status indicator for KDE?09:42
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surgygood night09:43
baronmordockdoes anyone know what repositories firefox and gaim are in?09:43
dwidmannnight surgy09:43
dwidmannbaronmordock: probably main09:43
dwidmann!info firefox09:43
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB09:43
dwidmann!info gaim09:44
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB09:44
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dwidmann[nige] : keyboard status indicator?09:45
[nige] dwidmann, so i know when my insert key is on...09:45
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[nige] its very annoying with my laptop having numlock always off when I start up09:45
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dwidmann[nige] , the numlock part is easy to fix09:45
dwidmannsystemsettings -> keyboard09:46
[nige] hmmm09:46
solemnwarningHow can I configure apt to use a HTTP proxy?09:46
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[nige] i wonder why ididnt see it yet09:46
premier_hey, for some reason kcontrol wont let me change my monitor settings09:47
premier_can I pastebin the error?09:47
dwidmannpremier_: you can09:47
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solemnwarningAnyone?09:47
dwidmannsolemnwarning: no idea09:48
lexua1perhaps $http_proxy ??09:48
solemnwarningWhere do I set http_proxy?09:48
lexua1bash variable09:48
solemnwarningok09:48
solemnwarningI'll add it to bashrc then09:49
lexua1yeah, perhaps: 'export http_proxy=FOO'09:49
premier_http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errormessage1dz7.png09:49
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premier_btw, I know this falls squarely in the "unsupported" side of linux, but does anybody have any experience in running windows games using wine?09:50
lexua1I used to run starcraft, what games are you thinking of09:51
Jucatopremier_: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"09:51
dwidmannpremier_: try this: "sudo aptitude install kde-guidance"09:52
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dwidmannoh, jucato was thinking the same thing, we must be right :D09:52
premier_Jucato: done09:52
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Jucatopremier_: try it again09:52
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premier_lexua1: I got starcraft running, it made me so happy.  Im trying to get alpha centuri and pharaoh, but they give me trouble09:53
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premier_fixed thanks09:54
dwidmannpremier_: http://appdb.winehq.org09:54
lexua1premier_: A google search should give you an idea if anyone else has had any success, there is also cedega.09:54
crazy_busDoes anyone know how to fix it? :)09:54
premier_do you recomend I use something besides he gui?  I have an ati that gives me a lot of trouble09:54
premier_cedega costs $$, right?  Like $5 a month or something?09:55
dwidmanncrazy_bus: best thing I can think to do is to remove any and all packages that it complains about. You can reinstall them afterwards09:55
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Jucatopremier_: when it comes to fixing xorg, most often I have to resort to the command line, like editing xorg.conf or running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:55
lexua1premier_: I don't know much about it. I'd experiment with free wine for a while and see how you go.09:55
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crazy_busbut if I sudo apt-get remove the package it complains about I get the same error?09:56
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dwidmanncrazy_bus: some fun commands to play with: "sudo apt-get -f install", "sudo dpkg --purge <packages>"09:57
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crazy_busI've tried those but they don't work either09:58
dwidmannThose sorts of errors drive me crazy, crazy, but played with in the right order they can usually fix things.09:59
visik7anyone had try the new compiz packages form gandalf that support kwd ?09:59
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crazy_busI tried the commands but I get this error; does it mean anything?  unable to open files list file for package `libgtop2-common': Input/output error10:01
dwidmanncrazy_bus, I wonder what "sudo apt-get -f remove" would do, I've not tried that one before10:02
frojndhello hays..10:02
frojndguys* :)10:02
frojndhow can I chat with "irc" in not gui ?10:02
dwidmanncrazy_bus: it certainly means something is wrong, in a very not good kind of way.10:02
frojndlike if I start monitor alt + f3..10:02
dwidmann!irssi10:02
ubotuirssi is irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out ) - also see http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/17/my-new-irc-client-irssi-ubuntu-606-610/10:02
crazy_busapt-get remove -f comes up with errors too :(10:03
dwidmanncrazy_bus, take a look at "man apt-get", type /--fix<enter>10:03
orient2000I have xp pro and linux does not see it. how can I convert to 32 bit format? I need access to data to transfer to linux.10:04
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dwidmannorient2000: what exactly are you needing to do?10:07
orient2000I need to access my xp pro HD from kubuntu10:08
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dwidmann!ntfs-fuse10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-fuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
dwidmanngrr10:10
dwidmann!ntfs10:10
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:10
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orient2000thanks I am going to try it now.10:12
dwidmanncrazy_bus: hmmm, I have yet another idea. sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --reinstall install <every single package that it complained about here"10:13
crazy_busall in one line?10:13
dwidmannYes.10:13
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graniti hi. how can I set a process to be automatically respawned when/if it dies?10:14
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crazy_busdwidmann: it didn't work10:17
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dunnoanythinghi..the file permission drwxr-sr-x the s stands for what? i know x is executable10:17
dunnoanythingi couldn't find it on web..10:18
dwidmanncrazy_bus: figures :\10:18
dunnoanything!permission10:18
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux10:18
crazy_busIt wan'ts to autoremove 3 packages, one of which is a package it complained of.  But doing that doesn't work either10:19
dunnoanythingwhat does the 's' stands for???10:19
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dwidmannsticky, I think10:20
dunnoanythingsticky?10:21
dwidmannYes, sticky.10:21
dunnoanythingi've got one is capital 'S' too10:21
dunnoanythingdoes it mean very sticky? haha10:21
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dwidmannSTICKY DIRECTORIES10:21
dwidmann       When  the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may10:21
dwidmann       be unlinked or renamed only by the directory owner as well as  by  root10:21
dwidmann       or the file owner.10:21
d0dge-Is there a way to get support for hyperlinks in Konsole?10:22
geniifrojnd: Use the program ircii by   sudo-apt-get install ircii      then put in the freenode irc site to its conf file. Then start irc by  sudo irc10:22
d0dge-I'd only need it in SSH10:22
Jucatod0dge-: if you mean clicking on URL links in Konsole, no, not directly10:22
d0dge-Jucato: Okay10:23
Balsamic_Chickensdf10:23
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frojndIRSSIhehe now I am in NON GUI with irssi10:25
frojndIRSSIonly problem is I dont know how to change identd10:26
frojndIRSSIand oh if gui dies how can I surf the net?10:26
dwidmannlinks10:26
frojndIRSSI?10:26
geniiwith elinks, yes10:27
frojndIRSSIhimme an sample10:27
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frojndIRSSIexample d0h10:27
dwidmannlinks, elinks, links2 ... lynx .... quite a few of those browsers10:27
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frojndIRSSIah u meant browsers...10:27
geniilinks is now symlinked to elinks10:28
frojndIRSSIelinks ?10:28
kagekohello i have trouble with my headset can someone help me?10:28
user-landHello, every time my Kubuntu tries to access a file, i get "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream"10:28
frojndIRSSII will install elinks10:29
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akrushow to get UUID of /dev/sda1?10:33
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frojndIRSSIdamn now a days web designers arent on site of non gui...10:34
frojndIRSSI:)10:34
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geniiYeah the days of lynx-compliant websites are long over my friend10:36
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frojndIRSSIyes but what if gui dies10:37
Johnsandmanthe hardcore of your brain never dies10:38
crazy_bushttp://channels.debian.net/paste/5201  Here is what happens in the terminal?  Anyone know how to fix it?10:38
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ceefourhi all10:48
ceefourI wonder why my console is garbled when in text-mode, but okay in Konsole?10:49
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louzamsalut tous10:57
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louzamwooow y a du clones ici lolll10:58
louzampersonne parle ?10:59
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genii!fr | louzam11:10
ubotulouzam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:10
louzamok merciii11:10
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waylandbillis everyone just so psyched and chomping at the bit to run out and buy vista tomorrow. ;-)11:14
Xemanthnope :)11:14
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geniiI wonder what the bloat factor from XP/2K will be. From 98 to XP the bloat factor was about 3X11:16
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paul__salut11:20
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sergiotoc toc11:21
paul__cine sunte-ti mah?11:21
paul__name Bompa11:22
paul__oasodpaji dw11:22
paul__aw;knd w11:22
Jucatopaul__: English only please11:22
paul__tes ofcourse11:23
paul__yes11:23
crazy_buswhat does this error mean? touch: cannot touch `/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgtop2-common.list': Input/output error11:23
paul__what happend here?11:23
distro-tester11:22:49 (13.26 MB/s) - "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list" salvato [139/139] 11:24
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distro-testersaved it there what i have to do next to install last wine version?11:24
paul__woh da i install yahoo messenger on this os?11:26
paul__kubuntu11:26
paul__plaease somebody tel me11:27
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ceefourpaul__: use Kopete11:27
ceefourpaul__: It's on the "Internet" group on your KDE menu.11:28
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RarjHow do I save data to an NTFS partition from kubuntu ?11:29
JucatoRarj: you can't (normally) and shouldn't11:30
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Rarjwhy doesnt kubuntu support reiserfs ?11:34
waylandbillbecause it will murder your drives..11:36
waylandbill(that last statement wasn't based on fact)  :-D11:36
g6issenhsalut11:37
Jucatowaylandbill: it supports reiserfs. it's just that the QtParted in the Desktop CD installer doesn't support it11:37
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Jucatoer.. sorry, that was for Rarj ^^^^11:38
waylandbillyup11:38
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RarjJucato: :), right. Also the front-end has been changed has it ?11:39
tanlaanok now im getting angry >.<11:39
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JucatoRarj: what do you mean?11:39
RarjJucato: it doesnt allow me to create more than 4 pri partition11:39
RarjJucato: its different from Ubuntu11:39
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JucatoRarj: you're not allowed to create more than 4 *primary* partitions. but you can create more partitions my creating 1 or more *extended* partitions11:40
tanlaanmy computer says that i have something open using the adept database, but i have nothing open, ive tried logging out, restarting, and shutting down, and apparently that process hates me :D11:40
Jucatothat applies to any distro11:40
tanlaananyone wanna help out?11:40
JucatoRarj: yes. Ubuntu uses GParted, and Kubuntu uses QtParted11:40
Jucato!adept crash fix | tanlaan11:40
ubotutanlaan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:40
tanlaanthank you :D11:41
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crazy_busfsck has come up with; what should I do? has deleted/unused inode 195503.  Clear<y>       What should I do?11:42
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genii"y" should be safe if it's unused11:43
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waylandbillThat not to say that you can't use GPartEd LiveCD or even just GPartEd with Kubuntu.11:43
crazy_busWhat happens if its a system file?11:43
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crazy_busShould I clear if the file in question is a system file genii?11:46
crazy_busi.e. Entry 'scrollkeeper_docs' in /var/lib/scrollkeeper (193621) has deleted/unused inode 195506.  Clear<y>?11:47
geniicrazy_bus Should be OK, but it looks like you may be developing some issues with bad sectors on your hd11:48
crazy_busWhat should I do about it?11:48
geniiIf you have drives with SMART capability turn that monitoring on in bios to get an early heads-up of impending failures11:49
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crazy_busis there anyway to write around bad sectors?11:50
geniiOtherwise, there's not much you can do when a drive starts to fail. Other than scan it more often than normally11:50
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crazy_busI've had to reinstall around 3 times because system files on partition 1 have being disappering.  (Never partition 2 my home drive)11:51
geniicrazy_bus: When a part of the hd is found as bad, the table which says what part of the drive is used is updated to say there is something there and not to write on that section.11:51
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crazy_busdoes fsck do that?11:51
geniiyes11:52
[StingRay] Hi, stdin :)11:52
crazy_busSo if I type fsck -f it should fix the harddriver?11:52
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geniicrazy_bus: As much as it can, yes. Keep in mind also that if the mbr part is going bad, not much to do since remapping low cylinders like 0 and so on is tough without a lowlevel formatting routine11:53
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[StingRay] Hi all. Can somebody tell me if there is an application, which shows my cpu load on a graphic like in window$' task manager?11:54
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crazy_busSince I have fscked and reinstalled three times do you recommend getting a new hard disk?11:54
Jucato[StingRay] : KSysGuard11:54
[StingRay] thanks, Jucato11:55
JohnFluxJucato: you've become the ksysguard missionary :-)11:55
JohnFlux[StingRay] : ctrl+esc  should bring it up11:55
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JucatoJohnFlux: hehe :)11:55
Jucato[StingRay] : although Ctrl+Esc will only bring up the ProcessTable. the graphs are in the main KSysGuard app/window.11:56
[StingRay] cool JohnFlux, but I made some adjustments in KDE and now something else is coming up :)11:56
JohnFluxJucato: oh yeah11:56
Jucato(That's going to change in KDE4... thanks to JohnFlux)11:56
JohnFluxJucato: been too long in kde4 ;-)11:56
Jucatolol11:56
JucatoI thought so :)11:56
JohnFlux[StingRay] : what have you setup to come up instead?11:57
JucatoJohnFlux: as to why the two were separated in the first place, I'll never understand...11:57
JohnFluxJucato: well because there was the sensor tree etc11:57
crazy_busis fsck -c the command to check for bad sectors?11:57
JohnFluxJucato: plus you want it to be as light as possible to load fast etc11:57
[StingRay] JohnFlux, the start menu...11:57
JohnFluxcrazy_bus: yep11:57
JucatoJohnFlux: aah... which we can afford in Qt 4/KDE 4?11:57
Jucato[StingRay] : hm... normally that would be Alt+F1, unless you changed keyboard shortcuts.11:58
crazy_busso running fsck -f wouldn't have detected them?11:58
geniicrazy_bus: All the options and descriptions can be looked at by: man fsck11:58
JohnFluxJucato: nah, I optomised the code a lot more11:58
screemoanyone know a good guide for testing out kde4 in sort of a sandbox (either using xnest or similar)11:58
JohnFluxJucato: so it's not very expensive now11:58
JucatoCtrl+Esc = ProcessTable (KSysGuard), Alt+F1 = K Menu, Alt+F2 = Run command, etc11:58
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[StingRay] Alt+F1, shows nothing Jucato. This is not a problem at the moment :)11:58
JucatoJohnFlux: goodie goodie :)11:58
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screemoa CURRENT guide would be nice11:59
Jucatoscreemo: are you ready to compile a lot?11:59
JohnFluxscreemo: there still isn't much to see11:59
screemoJucato: sure I just got a new cpu, so I'm ready :)11:59
screemoJucato: I know that, but I'm trying to get into qt4 programming..11:59
Jucatohm... you could do Qt 4 programming on KDE 3... not necessary to have KDE 4 installed12:00
JohnFluxscreemo: ah neat12:00
Jucatoscreemo: http://developernew.kde.org12:00
screemosweet12:00
JohnFluxJucato: is that the kdesvn-build  guide12:00
JucatoJohnFlux: I don't think so... me checks12:00
JucatoJohnFlux: there are usually 2 methods in the guide...12:01
screemothats a nice page.12:01
ceefourJucato: where can i find svn 1.4 and svk 2.0 for ubuntu?12:01
Jucato!info subversion | ceefour12:01
ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB12:01
screemoanyone else having issues with the "Run command" applet eating the applet to the left of it ?12:01
Jucatooops, 1.3 only12:01
screemoits a resize problem12:02
screemocan be solved by dragging the run command a few pixels to the right12:02
JucatoJohnFlux: http://developernew.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts seems to be the guide for kdesvn-build12:02
Jucatooops I might be wrong12:02
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Jucatoquick question, does Ctrl+< (Ctrl+Shift+,) work as a keyboard shortcut?12:04
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humboltowhat is the standard fax server in kubuntu? is hylaFax still the name of the game or is it asterisk already?12:05
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granitihi. how can I obtain the CPU architecture's infos?12:10
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screemograniti: uname -a12:10
screemograniti: dmesg|less will help also12:11
granitiscreemo: ok. is i686 equivalent to x86_64 ?12:11
Jucatouname -a will only give you the kernel that's installed12:11
Jucatono12:11
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Jucatox86_64 = 64-bit12:12
granitiand i686 ?12:12
screemograniti: i686 is regular x8612:12
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screemograniti: 32bits12:12
granitiok thnks screemo12:12
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granitithnks Jucato12:12
sonicGBin a nutshell, x86 = early model x86, up to about 80486 I think.... i686 = p2 and beyond?12:13
sonicGBnot sure if pentium 1 == x86 or i686, probably x8612:13
Jucatox86 covers upt to 686 afaik12:13
sonicGBJucato: yes.... I'm just not 100% where the cutoff point is... i686 begins from p2, I *think*12:13
geniip1-58612:13
geniip2=68612:14
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auserhello12:14
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sonicGBgenii: sounds about right, thanks.12:14
andreaswmoin12:14
agrasifff32hie12:14
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ausermy kubuntu did not show all the possibly resolutions for my screen12:14
agrasifff32i live windows12:14
auserwhy12:14
auser?12:14
agrasifff32ok u can use windows12:14
astrangerrhi am mumuntu12:14
ausercan you hel pme?12:15
agrasifff32yes12:15
agrasifff32u must to change kubuntu to Zubuntu12:15
astrangerrn my sister's name is humuntu12:15
agrasifff32my father Dubnuntu12:15
astrangerrn mama is komurtu12:16
agrasifff32And my gramds. cubruntu ,subruntu12:16
auseri'm in 640*480 mode12:16
astrangerrmy uncle homurtu12:16
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auserit's terrible12:16
waylandbillis there a point to all that?12:16
auserplease help me12:16
astrangerrhey windows is best12:16
astrangerrdoors are worst12:16
agrasifff32ok m.soft will help u with $200012:16
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astrangerrPoor KUBUNTU12:17
agrasifff32and i want to eat penguin sandwich12:17
astrangerrPoor people12:17
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marcelhello12:17
marcelneed help i don't know any software to open *.flv files on m linux help12:17
astrangerrpoor hot girls12:17
auserthere's no one can help me?12:17
agrasifff32pooor Linuxes12:17
ceefourauser: what video graphic card you have?12:17
agrasifff32i will help u on tonight12:17
ceefourauser: and what monitor?12:17
auserati12:17
auserand a philips 105e12:17
agrasifff32my father is nividia12:18
auserbut the strange thing is that12:18
ceefourauser: but you can use KDE right now, right?12:18
agrasifff32;-)12:18
astrangerrmy mom is onboard12:18
auseryes12:18
ceefourauser: run Konsole12:18
agrasifff32mom is motherboard12:18
ceefourauser: then type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:18
agrasifff32run with konsole12:18
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jkyrohello12:18
astrangerru are homeless people12:18
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agrasifff32i like terminal like my brothers12:18
ceefourauser: done so?12:18
astrangerrcos u don't have Windows12:19
auserjust a moment12:19
agrasifff32u pooor linuxews people12:19
jkyroanybody know if it's possible to define a proxy for kubuntu installer?12:19
Jucatoastrangerr, agrasifff32: stop it12:19
agrasifff32but we like windowzzz12:19
astrangerrlinuxers i am human bomb12:19
auserceefour: done12:19
geniiJucato astranger=agrasifff32 is my opinion12:19
agrasifff32i am a bomber of saddams12:19
Jucatogenii: obviously12:19
geniiagra= market12:19
auserand now?12:19
Jucatoagrasifff32, astrangerr enough.12:20
agrasifff32sudo su install me12:20
screemowhy isn't HIDD on by default for bluetooth devices...12:20
astrangerrJucato i know you sister Her name is Ducato is'nt she ?12:20
agrasifff32and mother mukito12:20
agrasifff32and bananaas chukitta12:20
Jucatoastrangerr, agrasifff32: if you have nothing better to do, go somwhere else, this is your final warning12:20
astrangerrFiat Ducato12:20
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auserceefour: it ask me what kind of server drivers12:20
astrangerrYou are so kind12:20
agrasifff32 i love u more12:21
auserof x server12:21
astrangerri am fallen love with u12:21
astrangerrmake love with bill uncle12:21
agrasifff32if i wish women ,i will give u12:21
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Jucatoclones...12:22
genii:)12:22
dromerhow can I use ascii-codes in kde?12:22
ceefourauser: accept the default already chosen, what does it currently selects?12:22
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auseri'm accepting all12:23
auserjust a moment12:23
crazy_busDoes fsck -c tell you if it found bad blocks?12:23
ceefourauser, anyways, you can just accept all the defaults (there are lots of dialog boxes) until you come to the dialog where you can choose the screen resolutions needed12:23
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ceefourauser: success?12:23
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auserceefour: now i can see the resolution in the panel?12:28
auserceefour: or i must reboot?12:28
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crazy_busfor me it just said "/dev/hda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****" does that mean I have bad blocks?12:33
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eeoshi all12:36
screemocrazy_bus: probably, but it should be okay I think12:38
screemocrazy_bus: did it reboot afterwards?12:38
crazy_busI'm doing this of a livecd12:38
screemocrazy_bus: okay then, thought you had installed the system12:38
screemocrazy_bus: are you in the process of installing?12:39
crazy_busI have installed kubuntu.  I'm running off a knoppix livecd12:39
screemocrazy_bus: hmm I think you can ignore that message12:39
screemocrazy_bus: livecd's wont modify your harddisk12:39
screemocrazy_bus: /dev/hda could be your cdrom by the way12:40
crazy_busshould I mount the harddrive to fix bad blocks?12:41
screemocrazy_bus: if you got sata in your machine they're usually named /dev/sda12:41
jkyroanybody tried to use a http proxy installing kubuntu off the livecd?12:41
crazy_busSystem files have being dissapering off my / partition but not me /home partition.  This has happened and caused me to have to reinstall kubuntu 3 times.  What should I do?12:41
jkyroi'm currently trying, started the installer from a terminal with http_proxy environment variable...12:41
screemocrazy_bus: hmm sounds like your harddrive is kinda of sick..12:42
crazy_busWhat should I do?12:42
jkyrothe reason is that I'm inside a firewall that only allows http through a proxy12:42
screemocrazy_bus: hmm you should really boot it in single user mode, and then run fsck -p -f12:42
screemocrazy_bus: no guarantees... and I won't be responsible for your system :)12:43
crazy_buswhy should I do that?12:43
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screemocrazy_bus: didn't you want to check your for problems?12:43
screemocrazy_bus: your hd12:43
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crazy_busBut fsck runs off the livecd.  What is the difference?12:44
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screemocrazy_bus: nothing, that should be fine then.12:44
screemocrazy_bus: you booted knoppix to fix your harddrive then ?12:44
crazy_busyes12:44
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screemocrazy_bus: good, that should be fine then.12:45
crazy_busfsck -f said lots of files had delelted inodes12:45
screemocrazy_bus: ok, you might want to add -p to fix automatically12:45
screemocrazy_bus: let it run through, and cross your fingers :)12:45
crazy_busbut the problem is that some of the ones with deleted inodes were system files.12:46
crazy_busand fsck -f doesn't bring them back12:46
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berkeswhere does kde store its screensaver settings?12:47
JohnFluxberkes: grep screensaver ~/.kde -r12:49
screemocrazy_bus: you might want to backup /home/<user> and then reinstall, and put /home/<user> back from a backup12:49
crazy_busSo will fsck -c have marked out bad sectors on my harddrive to prevent files disappearing in the future?12:49
JohnFluxberkes: :-)12:49
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JohnFluxcrazy_bus: yes, but if you have a few bad sectors, then there's a good chance you'll have more bad sectors in the future12:49
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crazy_busscreemo, my home is on a seperate partition, which doesn't get missing files.12:49
JohnFluxcrazy_bus: bad sectors are automatically marked as they are found12:49
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screemocrazy_bus: even better then, but you should really make a backup anyways if you're reinstalling to get your system files back12:50
JohnFluxcrazy_bus: I would order a new hard drive, and switch as soon as possible12:50
jkyroberkes: config/kdesktoprc12:50
berkesJohnFlux: yea, and after grepping trough gigabytes of podcasts, IRC logs and whatmore I still id not find /the/ file where it is stored.12:50
crazy_busI only just reinstalled because of missiing files yesterday.  Though I only ran fsck -f and not fsck -c12:50
berkesjkyro: thanks12:50
jkyronp12:50
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berkesI see Saver=somefile.desktop The saver I want has no .desktop :/ is it si12:52
berkesis it still possible to run it in KDE?12:52
jkyrodepending on the saver, it may or may not be possible to create one12:53
jkyroI think12:53
berkesI want webcollage, its part of xscreensaver, but has no .desktop entry. Hence Its not available in the KDE control centre12:53
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gnomefreakberkes: doesnt owrk on edgy (might have been fixed in dapper)12:54
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screemoanyone know how to bypass that hideous delay when booting kubuntu ? - I'm on a laptop using wireless and knetworkmanager12:54
jkyroberkes, try creating a .desktop for your saver by tweaking an existing one12:55
JohnFluxscreemo: where does the delay happen?12:55
screemoJohnFlux: when it's dont dhcp for the network that I haven't got connected12:56
screemoJohnFlux: dont=doing12:56
screemoJohnFlux: means, that it should really check the link up condition before attempting to connect12:57
gnomefreakberkes: it wont be added to kubuntu so you would have to work it out on own sorry.12:57
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berkesjkyro: yea, I just did that. was easier then I thought =)12:58
frojnd!skype12:58
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:58
dwidmannscreemo, the easiest way is to use a static ip and disable dhcp, if that's doable with wireless (I don't know as I don't use wireless)12:58
berkesgnomefreak: yea. Why not?12:58
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dromerdoes anybody know how to use ascii-coding in kde?12:58
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gnomefreakberkes: because people complained about the naked people on it and didnt want that just to pop up at anytime12:59
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berkesgnomefreak: heh :)12:59
crazy_busapt-get is now working but it came up with lots of things in the terminal like: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `kubuntu-desktop' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.12:59
hendrik_hi12:59
gnomefreakso they removed it a long time ago and never looked back12:59
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berkesgnomefreak: makes sense though. Its also possibly problematic with copyrights and stuff.01:00
screemodwidmann: yes, I know how to get around it manually, but thats wasn't really the point. Point was that there should definitely be a lower dhcp delay and check of the link up before that01:00
crazy_busso what can I do about it?01:01
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gnomefreakberkes: are you on dapper?01:01
berkesgnomefreak: heh. I don't know. Keep forgetting about all these silly names.01:02
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gnomefreakberkes: 6.06?01:02
berkesno 6.1001:03
berkesme runs like 5 debian servers and two kubuntu systems.01:03
gnomefreakberkes: lsb_release -a tells you :)01:03
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gnomefreakthey got it up and working in edgy?01:03
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berkesI got it up and working using an homecrafted .desktop01:07
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visik7anyone of u had ever use python-apt binding ?01:09
visik7is there some kind of doc ?01:09
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gnomefreakvisik7: i dont remember but alo tof the docs are in the sources let me check if there is one for python-apt01:14
visik7only some examples that I can't understand01:14
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visik7and pydoc isn't very helpfull01:14
rysiek|plhi all01:15
rysiek|planybody managed to get TVOut to work on the ati/radeon opensource drivers?01:15
gnomefreakvisik7: im not sure. i have never seena  wiki on it01:15
eeosI am slightly crossed with today's update packages to kde. The problem we had that was solved by the kde 3.5.6 upgrade are here again.01:17
Jucatowhat problem? and what update?01:18
eeosJucato the automatic updateer proposed a series of updates (bug fixes) this morning (more than 30) which I accepted. They were updates to kde packages.01:19
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Jucatohm...01:20
dwidmannhmm, looks like the kde related upgrade consists of, basically, all of kdepim01:25
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eeosdwidmann yes plus something as far I remember01:29
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eeoshave to go! bye!01:34
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d0dgeWhen I plug an usb-device (usb memory stick) in to my comp, how do I know, which device is it? And I need to mount it, right?01:41
d0dgeLike what's the device's name01:42
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rysiek|pldid anyone manage to get tv-out working with open-source ati/radeon drivers? google didn't help much, neither did the ubuntu wiki01:45
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paolo_hi... I'm still searching for a FTP server which does work on kubuntu.... any Idea? thnks....01:52
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genii!proftpd | paolo_01:58
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB01:58
geniid0dge: If you do not have any scsi equipment the first usb storage device you plug in will be sda01:59
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d0dgegenii: Alright, thanks02:02
geniid0dge: np02:02
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zenhello i nead tlc do install amsn where do i find it?02:03
genii!amsn02:04
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB02:04
genii!tcl02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
geniibah ubotu02:04
geniiLOL02:04
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zen!tlc02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tlc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
zenany one knows where to get tlc ?02:05
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d0dgeWhat msn messenger client do you prefer in kubuntu?02:05
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d0dgeI use just kopete02:06
geniiTcl not tlc02:06
distro-testertcl02:07
geniifor tlc see your gf/bf LOL02:07
distro-testerdoes kopete work fine whit cam on yahoo msn dodge?02:07
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distro-testerthey said it has webcam for them both02:07
distro-testerso dodge?02:09
geniiI like gaim over kopete but perhaps because I like the continuity between platforms I use02:09
distro-testeri nead to webcam so what ever does cam whit yahoo msn aol is ok for me even if no audio02:10
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Tm_Tdistro-tester: Atleast MSN webcam works in Kopete.02:12
distro-testeryes yahoo one works?02:12
Tm_TNo idea, never tried.02:13
Tm_TBut IIRC it should.02:13
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distro-testerdo u know a program that has cam for msn yahoo aol even if no mic dosen't matter?02:13
distro-testeri nead aol cam to02:13
geniiIf you require camera then kopete is most useful to you02:14
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distro-testeryes02:14
distro-testercan u run kopete like gaim yahoo msn at same time and how u do that ?02:15
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dwidmannTm_T, lots of things *should* work, whether they do or not is usually another matter.02:15
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geniiYou cannot run 2 programs which are both attempting to use the same protocol at the same time.02:16
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yossirHow do I script Konversaion, preferably with Ruby or Python?  Should I do it through DCOP?02:16
distro-testerwell gaim does that02:16
distro-testeri can both be on yahoo msn same time02:16
geniieg: kopete using msn protocol and amsn do *not* work together02:16
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Jucatoyossir: you could ask in #konversation02:17
yossirJucato: thanks02:17
Jucatoyossir: I think you could do python scripts in Konversation. not really sure though02:17
distro-testerno i ment whit kopete can i be on yahoo and msn at same time as on gaim ?02:17
distro-testerhey jucato morning02:17
yossirJucato: would make sense... KDE seems very Python friendly.02:17
Jucatohi distro-tester02:17
Jucatoyossir: not KDE generally, but Kubuntu specifically. KDE tries to welcome all bindings... (not sure about .NET though :P)02:18
geniiNo, you cannot be on the same service from 2 different programs at the same time with certain protocols like msn protocol. aim/icq is another protocol which does not allow concurrent sessions. irc does for instance02:18
distro-testerso how can gaim do that?02:18
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distro-testeri rember i was on yahoo msn 2 in 102:18
TTyossir: OK. That was the impression I got because of the quality and large community of PyQT02:19
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geniiyou can be on yahoo and masn at the same time from gaim. but you cannot be on msn grom gaim and msn from kopete at the same time for instance02:19
geniitypos, sorry02:20
geniiWith msn protocol for instance, the second time you login, the first instance disconnects02:20
geniisame with aim/icq protocol02:21
dwidmannmore specifically, that only happens if you're using the same login on the same protocol in both programs02:23
geniidwidmann Exactly02:23
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CVirus!universe02:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:24
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CVirus!mp302:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:26
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distro-testeri nead this now to install amsn Tk GUI Toolkit where do i find it?02:29
ziza!network02:30
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:30
ziza!network02:31
ziza!share02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
ziza!ssh02:32
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:32
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Tm_Tdwidmann: I know.02:35
XVampireXWhy doesn't adept have any usability enhancements?02:37
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XVampireXLike for example, it should have the same patches as synaptic, so that people can click to enable universe and multiverse02:38
distro-testerwhat's this call Tk GUI Toolkit  in adept?02:38
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XVampireXTk is a scripting language for GUI's02:39
XVampireXKinda like visual basic02:39
XVampireXbut also cross platform, aMSN uses it02:39
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distro-testeryes vampire i nead ti to install amsn can u tell me what name it has on adept?02:40
distro-testerso i take it02:40
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distro-testeru know then?02:41
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XVampireXdistro-tester: kinda02:44
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XVampireX>_<02:45
linopilmissing system settings om KMENu mixed ubuntu kubuntu and edubuntu02:45
linopilhowto apt-get install "system settings" on Kmenu02:45
XVampireXsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:46
linopiltyvm02:46
linopilhow to play midi on kubunut02:48
yossirHow do I install a theme on Kubuntu?02:49
yossirDo I really have to compile it?02:50
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dwidmanna theme, or a kwin-dec? (bit of a difference, both in the level of vagueness and what it actually applies to)02:50
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dwidmannkwin decorations indeed have to be compiled, no other aspects of theming require compilation though ...02:51
yossirdwidmann: This: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=153 <- which I assume is a theme.02:51
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yossirI got the tar.bz2, now I wonder whether I can just drag and drop it somewhere.02:51
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dwidmannyossir, to install, I think you need to extract the archive (tar xf 153-acqua-3.2.tar.bz2), then run install.sh (./install.sh)02:53
dwidmannAt least, that's what the read me says.02:54
yossirdwidmann: yeah. I asked because in Gnome (i.e. vanilla Ubuntu) you just D&D to the theme dialog box.02:54
yossirI thought there might be a nice shortcut like that for Kubuntu as well.02:54
dwidmannSeems there is for everything but the window decorations02:55
linopilintel 801 sound ?02:55
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dwidmann(so, themes, styles, icons, colors, etc are still fairly easy ... just not the window decorations, apparently)02:55
XVampireX!midi | linopil02:57
ubotulinopil: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo02:57
dwidmannyossir, anyhow, if you're looking for a mac-like theme, there's always baghira, which is apt-get installable02:57
XVampireXlinopil: When in Doubt, ask ubotu ^_^02:57
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yossirdwidmann: thanks, I installed the Acqua theme according to the instructions. But how do I apply it?02:58
XVampireXyossir: KDE themes are a bit different from gnome themes02:58
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yossirThe readme talks about a "Control Center", which doesn't seem to be on the menu.02:58
yossirXVampireX: how so?02:58
XVampireXYou can use kcontrol02:58
dwidmannyossir: go into system settings -> appearance -> window decorations02:59
XVampireXNot window decoration02:59
XVampireXIt's a style02:59
dwidmannIs it?02:59
XVampireXSo go to Style :P02:59
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dwidmannGuess I wasn't paying much attention :s02:59
XVampireXType:  Theme/Style for KDE 3.2 +02:59
XVampireXIt's old though03:00
dwidmannthe person who screenshoted acqua certainly had a mac-like window decoration in use too, so I got confused.03:00
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dwidmannAnyhow, if you want the whole deal, try baghira (apt-get install kwin-baghira)03:01
frojnd!ark03:01
Kabalhi there! is there a PAR2 program that can run in KDE?03:01
Kabal(I use the cmd version at the moment..)03:01
ubotuark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB03:01
yossirdwidmann: I'll try it, though Acqua is very cool also :)03:01
frojndhow can I zip some images with ark?03:01
frojndor anything with ark03:02
dwidmannopen ark, go to file -> new03:02
dwidmannpick the name03:02
dwidmannthen go to action -> add file/directory03:03
dwidmannadd them03:03
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dwidmann(dragging and dropping should work too)03:03
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yossirdwidmann: ok, after I apt-get kwin-baghira, what do I do to apply?03:05
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dwidmannyossir, should be in window decorations in system settings/kcontrol03:06
dwidmannand perhaps style too?03:06
yossirdwidmann: yeah, appearantly it's both there an in Style03:07
yossirwas just wondering whether there are other places to change...03:07
dwidmannthat should be it, I think03:07
linopilhow do I debug a sound installation of onboard i801 sound03:07
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yossirBaghira looks a lot like the T-ish theme of Gnome.03:08
dwidmannyossir, baghira is very, VERY customizable03:08
yossirdwidmann: cool :)03:08
dwidmannI used to use it03:08
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yossirdwidmann: what do you use now?03:08
yossirBTW does Konsole have that cool MacOS feature where you have a special icon whenever the console is "busy"?03:09
dwidmannregular old plastik for windecs, lipstik widgets03:09
dwidmannI feel like playing with a mac theme again though, so I might do that now :)03:10
yossirMac themes are beautiful.03:11
yossirI used to think it doesn't matter if your DE is nice or not, but now I realize it does make a difference if you're a software developer who sits in front of his computer all day :)03:12
dwidmannthat's where I  hope to be before long :)03:13
yossirdwidmann: developing software?03:13
dwidmannYeah03:13
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dwidmannThe sooner I get out of my current job the happier I'll be.03:14
yossirdwidmann: your current job is?03:14
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dwidmannwarehouse slave? (well, I get paid, so I guess that isn't technically accurate)03:14
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yossir:)03:15
exelcanal de kubuntu en espaol03:15
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genii!es | exel03:16
ubotuexel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:16
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exel#ubuntu-es03:16
dwidmannactual job title would be order filler, but I think warehouse slave is close enough03:16
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geniiexel eg:   /join #ubuntu-es03:16
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dwidmannooh, that encode is done. I guess I'll reboot and actually get around to testing feisty then03:19
dwidmannhah, the process ended 20 seconds ago and my processor has already dropped 6 degrees03:19
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linopil\o I burned main DVD - set of repos http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en and now want to use it thru sudo apt-get install03:26
linopilwhat do I add in sources.lst any idea?03:26
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linopilwhat is the name of a GUIi based debian installer?03:30
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Lynourelinopil: googling did not tell you the answer?03:31
sorush20is there an onscreen keyboard anywhere  ? for kubuntu03:31
vbgunzI am so burnt it isn't funny. I cannot no matter what I do, get Kubuntu to connect to the internet :( I have a wireless card and router (ralink rt2500, ra0), I should have a static ip address. I know my default gateway, dns, *BUT* no matter what I do, I cannot connect!!03:32
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Lynourelinopil: Do you mean installer that installs debian? Or a package installer from debian?03:32
vbgunzthe network manager sees my card. the wlassistant program sees the routers in the area! ... I have an ASCII wep key and paste it in *BUT* no matter what I cannot connect!03:33
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vbgunzDoes anyone know what I am supposed to do!?03:33
vbgunzis this a puzzle?03:33
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vbgunzI've been doing this for the last 3 hours :(03:33
vbgunzthis is frigging incredible :(03:33
vbgunzthis is a brand new installation03:34
vbgunzthe card works, I've tested it in Ubuntu and Windows... Kubuntu is just friggin broke :(03:34
vbgunzcan someone help me out?03:34
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Lynourevbgunz: The card manufacturer failing to release specs does not mean Kubuntu is broke. But with a slightly different attitude someone might help you out. Especially if you tell the what card and have read the wifi docs03:37
Lynoure!wifi | vbgunz03:37
ubotuvbgunz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:37
gdiebelvbgunz: if it is working in ubuntu, then it will work in kubuntu03:38
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tibbaris there anyone here that can give me lots of repsitory's, im using dapper6403:39
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apokryphostibbar: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic03:39
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vbgunzgdiebel: yes, I bet it should but how many loops do I have to jump through to get it to work? I know all the info, something is very wrong. pressing the help button don't do nothing either03:39
filip_Hi! im looking for some kind of plugin for shockwave in kubuntu... where can i find that?03:40
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gdiebelvbgunz: what does ifconfig tell you?03:40
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vbgunzgdiebel: not sure how to read it but it says no errors, no drops, what would you like to know?03:42
vbgunzI cannot paste it as it isn't connected to the network :(03:42
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gdiebelvbgunz: chipset? using networkmanager?03:43
vbgunzI went through kcontrol and logged in as admin and made the changes03:43
vltHello. When I copy text from Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. Where can I set this?03:43
vbgunzunder network settings03:43
ziza_shouldn't i be able to ping my pc if i connect it with my notebook using a cross-over cable? i have a static ip config on my pc (for internet), can't i ping my pc with the same address or must i use dhcp or something??03:44
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ziza_eth0 on my notebook is up and it has a ip6 address. hmm maybe that's the problem?03:46
vltziza_: To check if an ethernet connection is established you can run `sudo ethtoll -i eth0` when wthtoll is installed.03:46
red22i'm getting "could not commit changes" from adept manager when trying to remove compiz-plugins.  something about the commit would break packages.  how can i uninstall this safely/cleanly please?03:46
vltziza_: ethtool03:46
vltziza_: sorry ;-)03:46
ziza_k03:46
ziza_wth is for wireless?03:46
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vbgunzgdiebel: this is wild :(03:47
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vltziza_: No, it should both be ethtool, I repeat ethtool.03:47
vbgunzwhen setting up a wireless card in Kubuntu, is there some other place I should be looking to hook it up other than under network settings?03:47
vltziza_: (I'm not familiar with this notebook keyboard ;-)03:47
vltvbgunz: You can install knetworkmanagetr03:48
ziza_vlt: i noticed that already hehe03:48
vltvbgunz: damn::knetworkmanager03:48
red22how do i see what packages depend on a specific package?03:48
gdiebelvlt: not in his case, he apparently needs to use static ip03:48
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ziza_i get some information, like driver: e100 version: ... firmware-version: N/A bus-info: 0000:0a:08.003:49
vbgunzvlt? knetworkmanager?03:49
vbgunzthat comes on the CD?03:49
gdiebelvbgunz: nope it has to be downloaded on edgy, will be default for feisty03:50
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vltvbgunz: No. That's why I said install.03:50
vltziza_: from ethtool?03:50
vbgunzdamn...03:50
vltziza_: There's a last line ...03:51
ziza_yes03:51
ziza_bus-info is the last line03:51
ziza_im not connected with the cross-over cable at the moment, by the way03:51
ziza_if i do that, i don't have internet anymore... so it's a little dilemma :)03:51
vltziza_: Ok. So omit the "-i"03:52
vltziza_: Oops.03:52
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vltziza_: So could you describe your probelm again?03:52
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vbgunzwow, so right out of the box, Kubuntu has problems setting up a ralink rt2500 card?03:52
vbgunzor is it the network manager itself that is messing up?03:52
gdiebelvbgunz: you misinterpret what vlt said. network manager is optional03:53
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ziza_ok, link detected: no. i'll run the command again with the cable connected03:53
ziza_i got link detected: yes, so that seems to be fine03:54
vbgunzgdiebel: I meant the kcontrol > network settings manager application... <- thats broken?03:54
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vltziza_: Your PC is static, right? What's on the notebook?03:55
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dwidmannhmm, herd2 install seems to be going smoothly03:55
vbgunzdo I have to restart x, reboot, when I make changes? do I have to enable any services? this is a  fresh install, Windows and Gnome are 1,2,3. Kubuntu, I fill out everything the way it should be filled out, it sees my card, I enabled it and disabled the land, sudo apt-get update hangs and then Err's :(03:56
gdiebelvbgunz: lets get a few things worked out here. The card should work fine. You mentioned static, are you using encryption on you AP?03:56
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ziza_it's setup default, in fact i'm running a kubuntu live cd, i'm trying to save the partition table and mbr, because i want to do permanent changes on the notebook hd03:56
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vltziza_: Default is dhcp, but you can change this easily.03:57
ziza_when do ifconfig eth0 i see that the NIC has a ip6 address, it doesn't show a ip4 address03:57
vbgunzgdiebel: yes, wep, it ASCII, I know it and copy it in, I even tried typing it in *but* without some sort of confirmation, I rather copy it in03:57
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vltziza_: Just type `sudo ifconfig the.new.ip` on the notebook.03:57
vltziza_: Just type `sudo ifconfig eth0 the.new.ip` on the notebook.03:58
ziza_ok, but is this gonna remedy the problem that i can't ping the static address of my pc?03:58
vbgunzgdiebel: under configure for the card, I have it set to manual > ip address is 192.168.0.101, netmask is 255.*3.003:59
vltziza_: If you have no ipv4 address defines on the notebook it doesn't know where to send the ping to.03:59
vltziza_: Even doesn't know which device to take03:59
vbgunzgdiebel: essid, I put in the name as if it is case sensitive. I pasted the wep key, the paste is perfect, I select ascii03:59
ziza_ah that sounds plausible :)04:00
ziza_ok gonna disconnect now, and ping my pc04:00
vbgunzgdiebel: under advanced, the gateway is 192.168.0.1 (router address)04:00
gdiebelvbgunz: if you are troubleshooting, try enabling dhcp on you AP and try getting a lease04:00
vbgunzgdiebel: I've tried that so many times :(04:00
ziza_hurray, it responded04:01
vbgunzon the next tab, under routes, I again typed in 192.168.0.104:01
ziza_thank you so much vtl for helping me :-)04:01
gdiebelpaste the output of ifconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:01
vltziza_: btw, you can dump your mbr and/or partitions with dd and nc, you know?04:01
gdiebelvbgunz: paste the output of ifconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:01
ziza_vlt: yep, know that already from the ntfsresize page04:01
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vltSo ... when I copy text from Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. Where can I set this?04:03
linopilwhy is firefox closing  on intelcore duo platform some bug?04:03
gdiebellinopil: using 64 bit?04:04
vbgunzgdiebel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3348/04:05
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kosta!de04:05
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:05
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vbgunzgdiebel: really, I think I have everything right. I set this machine up once and took a screenshot of every network settings screen I had to refer to for a fresh install if I ever need to go fresh again *cause* it took me forever to set it up before... this time I followed the screenshots to the T, and I didn't connect, I don't get it :(04:08
sebbarhow do I use a kde theme once I've installed it?04:08
Jucato!changethemes | sebbar04:08
ubotusebbar: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu04:08
gdiebelvbgunz: your ra0 is using the 192.168.0.101. have you tried setting your wireless to a different ip?04:08
BluesKajHowdy all :)04:09
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vbgunzgdiebel: my machines static IP address should be 192.168.0.1 and my DNS and gateway should be 192.168.0.10104:10
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vbgunzsorry,04:10
geniithose IP should be reversed04:10
vbgunzthats wrong, I said it in reverse04:10
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vbgunzI wish I could upload the screenshots but I don't know where to upload the 5 screenshots04:11
gdiebelvbgunz: right and your wired interface is using .101. try setting the wireless interface to .102 or something04:11
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geniifor sharing images use imageshack04:11
sebbartrying to configure a kde theme I get: "Can't find X includes. " what am I missing?04:11
Jucatosebbar: what KDE Theme is that?04:12
vbgunzgdiebel: I did, I tried in the range of 100 to 102, those are the only 3 my router accepts and the other should be taken04:12
sebbarJucato: serenity04:12
Jucatosebbar: ah that is not a "theme"...that's a widget style. you need to compile that04:12
Jucatosebbar: so you need the xorg-dev and kde-devel packages04:12
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soulriderhi04:13
soulrider!firewall04:13
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:13
gdiebelvbgunz: paste images to imageshack.us04:13
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vbgunzgdiebel: ok04:14
Jucato!compile04:14
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:14
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Jucatosebbar: use that guide ^^^04:14
soulriderdoes anyone know if guarddog will accept PeerGuardian blocklists ?04:15
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sebbarJucato: I have some broken packages, how do I fix that?04:18
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ScarFreewillany knows when herd3 comes out?04:20
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soulrider!schedule | ScarFreewill04:23
ubotuScarFreewill: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule04:23
linopiljucato \o04:23
vbgunzgdiebel: here are the 4 screenshots of my network settings04:24
vbgunzhttp://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1zj9.png04:24
vbgunzhttp://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2ap0.png04:24
vbgunzhttp://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3ls2.png04:24
vbgunzhttp://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4ay3.png04:24
linopiljucato made a major step downloading main ISO of ubuntu repos to use locally04:24
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cultJam`whose jucato?04:24
linopilnow I must decide on NFS server in LAB right jucato?04:24
cultJam`oh nm04:25
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Jucatoum.. huh? sorry I was afk04:25
linopilnp04:25
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linopilabove Jucato04:25
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Jucatolinopil: um.. I'm sorry... I have no idea... @_@04:25
linopilha sorry for double meaning04:26
linopilk np04:26
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linopilanyway local DVD is better than networked apt-get install in  cases of meta pckage like kubuntu-desktop04:27
Jucatoah yes04:28
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vbgunzgdiebel: did you see the snapshots?04:29
will_does anyone have any recommendations on how to diagnose an external hard drive that doesn't want to mount on its own?04:29
apokryphoswhat do you mean?04:29
apokryphosdoes it have an entry in fstab, and is it set to automount?04:30
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will_apokryphos: are you talking to me?04:31
apokryphosyes04:31
will_apokryphos: thanks.  Im a bit of a newbie to linux.  How do I get to fstab?04:32
apokryphoswill_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic04:32
dwidmannHmm,good news for the future ..... "The result is that upgrading from edgy to feisty should be much smoother than from dapper to edgy.04:32
dwidmann"04:32
ScarFreewill!msql04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
ScarFreewill!mysql04:33
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:33
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LynoureUnfortunately that do not help people on dapper, unless there will be a path that skips edgy04:33
dwidmannhttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/dist-upgrader.png04:33
filip_where can i find a shockwave plugin for firefox?04:33
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linopilMBR is 446 or 466 bytes?04:34
mezzahello04:34
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linopilanyone? exact size of MBR?04:35
dwidmannfilip: one doesn't exist.04:35
mezzai'm a new use on Kubuntu since one month. I have a problem for shutdown my computer, I must allways use my PC button manually :\04:35
filip_so its not posible to look att shockwave pages with linux?04:35
dwidmannI've heard of the possibility of using wine to do it, but I'm not sure how well that would work.04:36
vbgunzgdiebel: do you see anything wrong?04:36
ScarFreewill!mysql-admin04:36
ubotumysql-admin: GUI tool for intuitive MySQL administration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-1 (edgy), package size 755 kB, installed size 2016 kB04:36
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Riddelldwidmann: well.., it's far from complete yet04:38
dwidmannWell, always good to see progress04:38
filip_ok, so where can i find a Java runtime enviroment? ive tried with one but firefox can stil not open pages based on java.04:38
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mezzasomeone?04:38
mezzaI think it's a acpi problem04:39
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kosta2!de04:39
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:39
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vbgunzcan anyone help me setup my ralink rt2500 card on Kubuntu? it is supported but the settings don't work, no mattteer what I do04:40
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linopilanyone? exact size of MBR?04:41
linopilMBR is 446 or 466 bytes?04:41
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ziza512bytes04:41
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will_hey guys.  I've got an external hd connected by usb 2.  It used to mount upon plugging it in. Now it doesn't.04:42
apokryphoslinopil: what's wrong with google?04:42
apokryphoswill_: have you read the FAQ?04:42
linopilnothing apokryphos tipota04:42
will_apokryphos: you're still here.  I looked through the FAQ.  and didn't find what I was looking for.  I found a bunch of info about partititioned internal drives that might be able to be applied to this task by someone who knows what's going on.  I don't04:43
linopilwhen on the run asking friends04:43
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xenophile7x7!nickserve04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nickserve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
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xenophile7x7!nickserv04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
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linopilrestarting04:43
apokryphoswill_: almost anything about internal drives can be applied to the external, yes04:43
mezzano one ?04:43
apokryphos!anyone04:43
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:43
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Kubuntu|SlaveHelp me kopete wont connect to yahoo msgr now :(04:44
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Kubuntu|SlaveI guessing its yahoo being gay but not sure04:44
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dwidmannKubuntu|slave, could be the fault of a typo?04:45
Kubuntu|Slavetypo dosnt login04:45
Kubuntu|Slaveno connection on & off on & off repeatedly04:45
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Kubuntu|Slavedoesnt say login wrong04:45
dwidmannodd.04:46
JucatoYahoo Messenger has been "playful" the past 2 weeks for me too04:46
Kubuntu|Slaveu mean effin gay :P04:46
dwidmannYeah, that too.04:46
will_apokryphos: I did sudo fdisk -l, and my external drive is not showing up04:46
Kubuntu|Slavecus it works fine for windows just not on linux04:46
apokryphoswill_: is it plugged in and on?04:46
dwidmannThat all depends on how one defines fine ...04:47
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will_apokryphos: it is a FAT 32 partition.  yes, it is on and plugged in04:47
slyfoxPlease help. I have a sound problem. Video and mp3 and general sound work fine, but when it comes to skype or Gizmo, the sound has problems. Whenever I make a call, the sound is like when you have 100% cpu usage and are playing an mp3 file, it has this buzzing noise. Like: "He l  l l l l oooo, Wel l  l l coooo me to Sk   y y yy  pppeee tteeesst caaall"  Same happens in Gizmo. I trid both - ALSA and OSS (no idea04:47
slyfoxwhat they mean though, I am a noob) and both have the same problem. When I look at the cpu usage when making a call, both programs are not using full cpu, they use very little - the normal usage. The sound is still choppy. What is going on?04:47
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apokryphoswill_: ok. Turn it off, then turn it back on and pastebin me the output of dmesg|tail04:47
d0uglas_gotta scoop some documents off my office windows box, got my kubuntu live cd, want to mount the xp drive. I'm guessing it's nfs or whatever xp uses... iirc, that fs ain't mountable? gotta be fat32?04:48
will_apokryphos: I tried plugging it into a windows box.  It recognized it as plugged in and a USB mass storage device (as evidenced by the safely remove hardware app).  However, the windows box also didn't mount the drive.04:48
Kubuntu|Slavedoes anyone know if yahoo changed rotocols again? do I have to modify ports in copete to get functioning again04:48
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Kubuntu|Slavewill_ your deice might be effed up then04:48
apokryphoswill_: well, let's see what the output is; may be able to get it to work04:48
Kubuntu|Slavedevice*04:49
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vbgunzgdiebel: I really need your help, did you fall asleep :(04:49
will_apokryphos: how do I get the output of dmesg|tail?04:49
apokryphoswill_: type it in a terminal04:49
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d0uglas_how can i mount an xp filesystem (ntfs?) from a live cd boot?04:50
Kubuntu|SlaveU cant as Iknow, I tried :P04:50
d0uglas_damn.04:50
apokryphosd0uglas: are you sure it hasn't already been mounted?04:50
d0uglas_apokryphos: not seeing it from df, /mnt is empty04:50
Kubuntu|SlaveI am woking on getting a Linux/Xp boot from 1 disk split partitions :)04:51
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Kubuntu|Slaveu gotta enable it in partition manager04:51
d0uglas_fstab?04:51
geniiWhat, mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount -t ntfs /dev/device# /mnt/tmp doesn't do it?04:51
Kubuntu|Slavedoesnt always work either gives errors04:51
Jucatod0uglas_: try to make a temporary mount point "sudo mkdir /media/temp", then "sudo mount /dev/where_ntfs_partition_is /media/temp" ?04:51
apokryphosd0uglas: I think ubuntu puts it in /media, but anyhow, just follow the FAQ04:51
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Kubuntu|SlaveI use the manager to mount ntfs & gives me errors :(04:51
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Kubuntu|SlaveI got a prob loading linux after updated last night, says cannot kill Pid 7152 & stays there I had to do a recovery to get in04:53
d0uglas_Sigh.. bunch of ntfs-fs errors04:53
d0uglas_sounds like this ain't gonna happen04:53
Kubuntu|Slaveas I figured it would douglas04:53
d0uglas_time to call the IT lady04:54
Kubuntu|Slavehink there is a script to load ntfs's check ur adept manager04:54
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d0uglas_Kubuntu|Slave: ... screw it ;) thanks anyway fellas04:54
Kubuntu|Slave:P04:54
d0uglas_:P ?? i gave you a winky happy face04:54
yuriy!ntfs04:55
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:55
yuriy!ntfs-3g04:55
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:55
ubuntu_hello<<<do you know where i can find a french canal04:55
apokryphosubotu: french04:55
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:55
ubuntu_okm thank04:55
d0uglas_where do i go for xp help... not efnet i hope04:55
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Kubuntu|SlaveNot here :P04:55
Kubuntu|Slavejoin computerhelp in undernet04:56
dwidmann!windows04:56
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents04:56
Kubuntu|Slavethey might help u watch out for chronovore he a moron04:56
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will_apokryphos: I know this is rediculous, but what pastebin do you like. The kubuntu one seems entirely overloaded.  I can't get it to load my paste.04:57
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dwidmannwill_ pastebin.com seems to work fine04:58
vbgunzcan anybody help me!?04:58
nuxilnop04:58
Kubuntu|Slavenot mentaly we cant :P04:58
apokryphos!paste | will_04:58
ubotuwill_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:58
geniiPlease, slap him again for me04:58
M_Fatihhi is there any applet displays cpu, ram, swap, network action monitor like gnome system monitor applet?04:58
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frojndhello04:59
Kubuntu|Slavegnome is evil04:59
frojndwhat I have to install so I can see cpu T04:59
rominouHello04:59
Kubuntu|Slavetry ctrl esc to get a taskmanager04:59
vbgunzmy network settings manager is screwed! on a brand new install, my wireless card will *not* connect to my router!04:59
frojndI wanna se cpu temeprature04:59
frojndtemperature*04:59
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dwidmannfrojnd: lm-sensors04:59
will_apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3361/04:59
vbgunzis the network settings manager buggy!? if it is, can I somehow maybe set all of properties manually!?05:00
rjbhi there05:00
Kubuntu|SlaveIf its not  smoking or resetting dont worry about the temp :P05:00
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vbgunzKubuntu|Slave: gnome ain't evil, at least it's network settings manager works05:00
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Kubuntu|Slavekde works better05:00
apokryphoswill_: and pastebin sudo fdisk -l if you can05:01
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rjbshould amarok be able to convert m4a files to mp3 on transfer to a portable player, if mp3 is what the player is configed as supporting?05:01
Kubuntu|Slave_will if you dont know how to copy & paste then linux not for u :P05:01
nuxili have installed the nvidia driver. however its slow as hell,, my windows on my desktop are lagging when i move them.. anyone got an idea why? my card is a gforce 8800, it should not lag at all when i move windowses05:02
apokryphosKubuntu|Slave: erm, he quite evidently does. He was talking about the pastebin.05:02
ninHerKubuntu|Slave: the answer is not correct05:02
dwidmann!nvidia9 | nuxil05:02
will_apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3362/   (its at the bottom)05:02
ubotunuxil: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable05:02
dwidmann!envy | nuxil05:02
ubotunuxil: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia05:02
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vbgunzwow, this sucks05:02
Kubuntu|SlaveninHer I got n probs with kde network manager, U might need to update to 6.1005:03
apokryphoswill_: weird, it seems to complain about some errors with the disk.05:03
dwidmannnuxil, you need the nvidia 9746 drivers for the 8800 series card.05:03
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apokryphoswill_: I recommend filing a bug report about that05:03
rjb..or, which package has a converter that could recode m4a into mp3?05:03
ninHerKubuntu|Slave wrong address05:03
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nuxildwidmann, i installed the 9746 version of the driver05:04
will_apokryphos: is there a disk diagnostic/recovery program that you would recommend?05:04
nuxildwidmann, i used the file from nvidia's site05:04
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Kubuntu|Slavethen your typing somthing wrong :P ninher ur using gnome its difficult navigation & tools must be exactly set to work05:04
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dwidmannnuxil: and, did you run nvidia-xconfig afterwards?05:04
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nuxildwidmann, yes that was run automaticlay05:04
Kubuntu|Slavewhat network ool for gnome you using?05:04
Kubuntu|Slavetool*05:05
ninHerKubuntu|Slave i didn't asked for nothing to you05:05
nuxilwell.. i presses yes when it asked me if i wanted to run it05:05
dwidmannnuxil: ouch, guess support for it is still buggy then05:05
apokryphoswill_: fire up qtparted and see if it detects. If not, then I have no idea tbh, and you'd need to file a bug report.05:05
nuxildamn :\05:05
dwidmannnuxil: try asking on the nvidia forums05:05
Kubuntu|Slaveninher U asing about netowrking somthing I know much about DONT get rude05:05
will_apokryphos: thanks for your help05:05
ninHerKubuntu|Slave please, review the log.....i did not ask to you anything05:06
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linopilcdrom mistakenly mounts to /media/cdrom-1 instead of /media/cdrom after imageing HD05:06
apokryphoscome on guys, calm down :)05:06
linopilmeaning this behaviour is on new copy of ubuntu install05:06
Kubuntu|SlaveNinher u asked cahnnel for help I am trying to help are you that dense ninher05:06
apokryphosKubuntu|Slave: stop05:06
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Kubuntu|Slave:p its ok stupidity will = her kick05:07
linopilapokryphos: se parakalo05:07
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ninHerKubuntu|Slave review the log05:07
nuxildwidmann, ok i'll try that envy stuff..05:07
nuxilsee how that goes05:07
Kubuntu|Slaveninher review me giving you the inger & ignorong stupid ppl :)05:08
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Kubuntu|Slavehave a lousy day :)05:08
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apokryphoslinopil: is there a /media/cdrom directory?05:08
ninHerthanks a lot apokryphos05:08
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apokryphos!tr05:09
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.05:09
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Kubuntu|Slave_Abuser of ops\05:12
crazy_penguingood afternoon05:12
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frojndhow can I make file mkdev.sh05:15
linopilapokryphos: sorry /cdrom05:15
frojndmk mkdev.sh ?05:15
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apokryphoslinopil: in the root directory, really /cdrom?05:15
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linopilyep apokryphos for some reason this is how it appears in sources.list05:17
apokryphossources.list? Now you're confusing me.05:17
nuxilhmm.. dwidmann i noticed another issue.. i cant "ctrl alt Fx" damn crappy driver05:17
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mariliaOLA05:18
nuxildwidmann, and my screen goes black.. and i cany ctrl alr f7 again to go back05:18
linopilmaybe I change cdrom  in sources.list apokryphos and that'it?05:18
ninHerhi marilia05:18
nuxil*cant05:18
apokryphoslinopil: do you really mean sources.list and not fstab?05:18
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linopilyes apt-get is asking for edgy cdrom because it appears in sources.list apokryphos05:18
linopilk?05:19
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ninHerapokryphos:may be he has to erase the deb lines in fstab05:19
apokryphoslinopil: can you paste me that one entry?05:19
dwidmannnuxil, sounds like bugs if I ever heard of 'em, definitely post on the nvidia forums about it, maybe it'll get fixed soon.05:19
linopiladept batch opems window asking for ubuntu edgy eft in /cdrom/05:19
nuxili hope so05:19
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linopilk apokryphos05:19
dwidmannnuxil: fortunately for me it works fine with my 7900gtx :)05:20
ninHerseems like if trying to get the files fron cdrom instead the net05:20
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linopilrunning kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:20
mariliahey05:20
nuxildwidmann, lucky you :P05:20
linopildeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted apokryphos05:21
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linopilpasted from sources.list05:21
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mariliahello albi05:21
dwidmannI think I'm going to catch some Z's .... stayed up all night and it's already noon. The sun is up, and I'm apparently allergic to sunlight anyway.05:22
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linopilBTW donloaded DVD main.iso from cargol.net amd hope to insert it in sources.list too apokryphos05:22
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apokryphoslinopil: and you want the CD rom to be used with apt?05:24
linopilonly this "" sudo mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom """ helps apokryphos05:24
linopilyep and automatically05:25
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linopilin general many annoying obstacles to automating kubuntu installations05:27
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sb9anyone of you having problems with nagios ?05:27
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mariliahoy05:28
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apokryphosmarilia: what are you doing?05:30
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red22i'm running 6.10 will someone pls look if kdebase is installed... i messed up some packages and am reinstalling as much as i can..05:30
red22how about kdelibs?05:31
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CVirus!mp305:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:40
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jharonxmaleeeeeeeeeeemmmm05:46
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snamahey all whats up?05:49
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snamai just want to know how you get up the Katapult dialog05:49
CVirus!flash905:50
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash05:50
snamaany1?05:50
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CVirus!flash05:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:50
snamawhats the main differences between flash 7 and flash 9 ?05:50
snama!katapult05:50
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:50
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lgsobalvarroubotu: katapult make the same think that makes Quicksilver on mac :D05:52
ubotukatapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.3-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 2716 kB05:52
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lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's batery monitor with kpowersave ?05:56
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yossirThe system tray is very cool. The idea that you launch and then receive feedback from the same icon is very cool.05:58
lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?05:59
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byewindowsI can't close my session in Kubuntu with the menu K06:00
byewindowssomeone know where is the bug?06:01
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lgsobalvarrobyewindows: why you can't ?06:02
HymnToLifebyewindows, "I can't do this" doesn't help...06:02
byewindowslgsobalvarro: yes, I want to do a K/Deconnection/Shutdown the computer but I have always a black screen06:02
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byewindowsin menu.lst I have add # defoptions=quiet splash vga=791 acpi=force apm=off resume=/dev/sda506:03
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HymnToLifebyewindows, why did you add all this ?06:03
lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?06:04
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HymnToLife!repeat | lgsobalvarro06:05
ubotulgsobalvarro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:05
byewindowsHymnToLife: cause I have read http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=75550#p58725706:05
byewindowsHymnToLife: do you have an another idea? a solution?06:06
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lgsobalvarroHymnToLife: it's a simple question, not a wiki question or something like that06:08
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Balsamic_Chickencan open office be installed on windows? if so, could someone give the download address, thx06:12
HymnToLifeBalsamic_Chicken, yes, you can download the installer from openoffice.org06:13
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Balsamic_ChickenHymnToLife thx06:13
lgsobalvarroBalsamic_Chicken: of course it's an oppen office version for windows, download it frim openoffice.org06:13
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Balsamic_ChickenIgsobalvarro thx =)06:14
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slyfoxPlease help. I have a sound problem. Video and mp3 and general sound work fine, but when it comes to skype or Gizmo, the sound has problems. Whenever I make a call, the sound is like when you have 100% cpu usage and are playing an mp3 file, it has this buzzing noise. Like: "He l  l l l l oooo, Wel l  l l coooo me to Sk   y y yy  pppeee tteeesst caaall"  Same happens in Gizmo. I trid both - ALSA and OSS (no idea06:14
slyfoxwhat they mean though, I am a noob) and both have the same problem. When I look at the cpu usage when making a call, both programs are not using full cpu, they use very little - the normal usage. The sound is still choppy. What is going on?06:14
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d0uglas_The Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG wifi adapter.. any known issues with wpa?06:18
andriijasis there any alternatives to vmware? open source preferable06:18
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BluesKajanyone using pysoulseek here.. need the python vorbis bindings , but google can't find them06:22
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Sanneandriijas: there's qemu06:23
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akruswhat's an option like FollowSymLinks for proftpd?06:25
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gustav_hi, I have a problem. I just installed the ati drivers with their graphical installer and it worked fine. And in my xorg.conf i have the fglrx driver under devices. But one I use glxinfo | grep direct to see if I have direct rendering it returns no06:25
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gustav_any one have an idea what I should do to activate direct rendering06:26
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Mo-Zok... a bit of networkproblem... after changing to a WiFi router at home (connectet via dsl cable to kubuntubox), all internetsurfing has been slower... anyone knows y?06:27
gustav_i'm using 6.10 kubuntu06:27
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Sannegustav_: I don't have an ati card, so I can't really help, but give you the link to the wiki page, in case you didn't find it already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:28
BluesKajgustav,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a06:29
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Mo-Zhow to reconfigure internetconnedtion maybe?06:30
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gustav_I don't have to uninstall the old driver then?06:31
darthdualDoes anyone know how to adjust the xfree configuration on ubuntu06:31
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linopil!aiglx06:34
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.06:34
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slyfoxAnyone here uses Skype or Gizmo ?06:35
timsterCan you get a skype alternative?06:35
timsterHeh06:35
slyfoxtimster: I tried Gizmo, same problem there06:35
timsterOr does skype work with linux06:35
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slyfoxtimster: proabbly problem with ALSA, do you know anything about ALSA ?06:36
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timsterNo06:36
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jmichaelxdoes anyone in here have amarok working well with an ipod? i have a 30G ipod video, and amarok crashes any time i attempt to add a track to the ipod. it will, however, play music from the ipod.06:37
gustav_hehe sry I restarted my xserver can you post the link to the guide for the ati drivers again06:38
gustav_I'll put a bookmark on it this time06:38
Ignitetimster: skype withs with Linux.06:38
Ignite:)06:38
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zanyhallo06:39
Ignitewiths with Linux...06:39
Ignitedoesn't look right.06:39
Igniteworks*06:39
Ignite<_<06:39
IgniteHallo zany06:39
Ignite:)06:39
lgsobalvarroslyfox: do you use kopete? do you try the extra skype-plugin for kopete?06:39
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slyfoxlgsobalvarro: no idea that such plugin exists06:40
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IgniteI wonder if the Linux version of Skype has caught up yet...06:40
slyfoxlgsobalvarro: can kopete talk say to yahoo messenger or google talk ?06:40
IgniteI believe it works with Google Talk.06:40
IgniteNot sure about Yahoo..06:40
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Bxnp-awayslyfox: are you talking voice06:41
slyfoxBxnp-away: yes06:41
gustav_Can anyone please scroll up and paste the url to the ati guide again :)06:41
Bxnp-awaykey06:41
gustav_it was posted like 5-10min ago06:41
Bxnp-awayehm that i dont know06:41
slyfoxBxnp-away: can kopete sign in into google talk and just chat ?06:41
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jmichaelxi didn't know that kopete could do google talk at all06:42
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Bxnp-awayyes, and to yahoo messagenger06:42
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Ignitegustav_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:42
lgsobalvarroslyfox: it's an extra plugin that works with skype. It's in extragear.kde.org06:42
gustav_Ignite: thank you :)06:43
lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?06:43
slyfoxI think I found a problem, need you peple to stay with me and her to what I think it is06:43
Bxnp-awaybut with this plugin you need skype to be installed slyfox06:43
Ignitegustav_: np :)06:43
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jthomasgood day, kubunteurs!  anyone seen the new Mandriva with Metisse?  Its great!  Anyone know if Metisse will be built for Kubuntu?06:44
jmichaelxis there a goog kubuntu package for finding and changing xp pro passwords? :-D06:44
jmichaelx*ubuntu06:44
jthomasthe liveCD STD has that built in, as does Ultimate Boot CD06:45
jthomasnot sure about *ubuntu06:45
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slyfoxI think it has to do with my laptop intel centrino mobile processor. It is set to be on dynamic switching, so most of the time it runs on 800Mhz, and can go up to 2.0Ghz. You know how laptop cpus work. Now, when  I make a skype call I get this sound probelm of l aa  aggg g ...  But if I start to drag and move around skype window on my screen, the CPU speeds up and the voice becomes normal. so it seems that skype is06:45
slyfoxlacking cpu when it makes the call, somehow it is not getting enough power ... ?06:45
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bronze_0_1slyfox: change your power management profile06:46
slyfoxbronze_0_1: where do I acces it ?06:46
bronze_0_1your cpu is being throttled down06:46
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bronze_0_1dunno, i don't have a Kubuntu laptop06:46
bronze_0_1I have a centos laptop06:47
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bronze_0_1somewhere under system settings06:47
bronze_0_1probably "laptops and power:06:47
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slyfoxbronze_0_1: I dont see anything liek that06:48
bronze_0_1startmenu06:49
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konkihelllo channel06:49
bronze_0_1just above the actions section - "system settings" => second row "hardware choose "laptops and power"06:49
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bronze_0_1cant get you any closer. Its all disablesd in mine.06:50
slyfoxbronze_0_1: Where is it ? http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5730/snapshot1qy8.jpg06:51
jthomasclick "Advanced" in the top left06:51
jthomasyou're running 6.10 which has a different layout06:51
akrushow to extract files from RPM?06:52
jthomasslyfox: click Advanced06:52
bronze_0_1slyfox, yeah try advanced. Mine doesn't have the tabs at the top.06:52
slyfoxjthomas: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9625/snapshot2oy1.jpg06:52
slyfoxbronze_0_1: not there http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9625/snapshot2oy1.jpg06:52
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konkiso i newly installed kubuntu.. and i guess i'm supposed to have office math in my office folder06:53
konkibut it is not shown06:53
bronze_0_1slyfox: are you logged in as root?06:53
jthomaslol hmmm dunno06:53
konkiany ideas on how to access it?06:53
jthomasbronze_0_1: cannot login as Root to *ubuntu06:53
bronze_0_1sur you can06:53
slyfoxbronze_0_1: no, I am logged in as the user which I have created upon Kubuntu install06:53
jthomaskonki try [alt] [f2]  to run a program, and then try its name06:54
jthomasif not, open Adept and search for it to be sure its installed06:54
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jthomasslyfox: look in Adept to see if KDE laptop stuff is installed06:54
konkiwill try06:54
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jthomaskonki i have K6.06 and its not in my default install... is it OOo application?06:55
bronze_0_1slyfox: traverse thru all the tabs and see if there is any thing related rto power or power management06:56
bronze_0_1or power profiles06:56
bronze_0_1it itd there it will be asuy to find06:56
bronze_0_1*easy06:56
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slyfoxjthomas: yes and ACPI is working, and all applciaitons are working fine, meaning when they need more cpu they get it. But not skype or gizmo. Strange I had my previous dual boot isntallation of Kubunut 6.10 and Skype was workng fine.06:56
konkialright.. that worked.. after i figured out that the command was ooffice -math06:56
konkiwhat if i wouldn't have been able to figure that out06:56
konkilike wine.. i think i successfully installed wine via aptitude06:57
konkibut now i'm not sure what to do06:57
konkii'm a new linux user.. kinda lost06:57
Ignitekonki: just click on any windows exe files, they should open with wine.06:57
konkicool06:57
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slyfoxbronze_0_1: there is a search and search gives no results for pwer06:57
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Ignitekonki: if you want to configure wine settings, like windows version and themes, just run winecfg06:58
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Bxnp-awayand donkt make the same mistake some other guy on this channel made konki, trying to insatll itunes, check out at http://www.postproductie.nl cause spyware does exist ahahahah06:58
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jthomasOOo math can prob be accessed just by opening OOo and then choosing New Math from the File menu06:59
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Mo-Zhow to reconfigure eth0 in kubuntu?07:01
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LjLMo-Z: system settings / network settings07:01
gustav_victory the ati drivers is working :)07:02
IgniteLol I thought it'd be obvious that if you enable your Linux machine to run Windows software you're opening the door to all kinds of nasty things. >_>07:02
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konkii guess that would make sense07:03
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konkilike i said.. i'm a new user.. i cam07:03
konkiwoops07:03
Ignite:)07:04
konkican't say i have a problem with windows.. i just wanted to see what linux was all about07:04
LjLfew viruses are known to work successfully in WINE07:04
konkigood to know07:04
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|S^S^AWAY|since when do viruses function on linux:P07:04
IgniteI'd run ClamAV though, just incase.07:04
jthomasfrom OpenOffice, select New FORMULA to open OOo Math... yeah *that* makes sense!07:05
konkinow how would i tell if i even have that installed?07:05
konkii don't see a whole lot of anything in add/remove07:05
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LjL|S^S^AWAY|: since ever. there are linux viruses, though few of them and probably none in the wild, and there is no conceptual reason why Windows viruses wouldn't run in WINE07:05
lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?07:05
jthomasKlamAV is the KDE front for ClamAV; again, look in Adept to see if the app is there07:05
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LjLalthough shortcomings of WINE make that unlikely07:05
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Soul^Reaveryeah but viruse for windows cant survive in linux enviroment :P07:06
Soul^Reaverclose wine kill virus :)07:06
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konkiquestion:  is there a shortcut key for a terminal window?07:06
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Soul^Reaver:)07:06
Soul^Reaverintresting07:07
LjLSoul^Reaver: for that matter, shut down Windows and kill virus... nobody says it hasn't already damaged your files, used the network or something, though.07:07
Dr_williskonki,  ya may want to install that YaQuake (i think) terminal. it lets a terminal popdown  like a quake console.07:07
konkiseems as much as it's used there should be one07:07
Dr_willis!info yakuake07:07
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB07:07
Dr_williskonki,  err... i just leave a terminal open. :)07:07
Soul^Reavernah linux enviromen & commands incompatible decides viruses cant do much in normal access07:07
IgniteI make heavy use of alt+f207:07
Dr_willisor add that little command applet to the panel.07:08
Soul^Reaveror put terminal in desktop as shortcut :)07:08
konkigood idea07:08
Dr_willisor use that Katapult feature..07:08
konkii used to use this program called eConsole for windows.. it's a transparent console window.. know of any like that for linux07:08
LjLSoul^Reaver: a WINE program can very well, say, delete files from your home. there's absolutely nothing stopping it from doing that.07:08
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Dr_williskonki,  your description is sort of vague :) theres ways to get transparent 'terminal windows' on the desktop under linux.07:09
konkielaborate07:09
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Soul^Reaverljl a microsoft virus would'nt know how too nor understand the pah, It would try c:\home & fail07:09
Dr_williskonki,  then theres the 100+ karamba applets that can do a lot of eye candy things.07:09
Dr_willisSoul^Reaver,  that would be the least of the problems. :)07:09
konkikaramba07:09
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Soul^Reaverpath*07:09
konkilet me try that07:09
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Dr_willis!info superkaramba07:09
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB07:09
Alzi2On kubuntu, how do you add Dutch to your list of translations on KDE?07:10
Soul^ReaverI know how virus code works :P I dicected a few & make em destroy themsleves07:10
Dr_willis!info rootterminal07:10
ubotuPackage rootterminal does not exist in any distro I know07:10
LjLSoul^Reaver: my (default, iirc) WINE install has Z: mapped to the root filesystem. don't see why a virus wouldn't try writing in there07:10
carlos__holass07:10
carlos__como estan07:10
LjLand D: mapped as /home for that matter07:10
Soul^Reavera virus could only damage the virtual windows path :P07:10
LjL!es | carlos__07:10
Dr_willis!es07:10
ubotucarlos__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:10
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:10
Dr_willisheh07:10
LjLSoul^Reaver: don't see why07:10
Soul^Reaverit can wrte too root but wont function path names & even frmat incompatible07:11
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Soul^Reaverwindows uses   c cobalt vb & other code07:11
LjLSoul^Reaver: nonsense, Z:\home\ljl\thesis.odt is as a windows compliant path as it gets07:11
bronze_0_1slyfox: just got back. I meant for you to search the tabs by hand, cleack each item and read it07:11
LjLwhat? what does that have to do with anything?07:11
bronze_0_1*click07:11
Soul^Reaveryes it will write to Z: u kill wine & removes that path07:11
konkialright.. so i'd like to install karamba.. and i tried "aptitude install karamba"07:11
konkididn't work07:12
Soul^Reavera virtual drive can be remade & virus gone07:12
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LjLSoul^Reaver: yes, and my files are gone meanwhile07:12
Dr_willis!apt-get07:12
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:12
Dr_willis!info karamba07:12
ubotukaramba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB07:12
konkiit's just the only way i've installed anything so far07:12
LjLSoul^Reaver: that's NOT virtual! that's my HOME directory!07:12
konkialright07:12
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Dr_willisits in 'universe' repository07:12
LjLthere's nothing virtual in /home/ljl07:12
Soul^Reaverjust remake path & re d/l files :P07:12
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Dr_willis!info superkaramba07:12
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB07:12
LjLSoul^Reaver: .....07:12
LjLyou know people sometimes *create* files and not download them?07:12
konkihow do i get to universe repository07:12
LjLlike, the entire goal of using a computer07:13
LjLUbotu, tell konki about universe | konki, see the private message from Ubotu07:13
slyfoxbronze_0_1: do you know what can I use in Kubuntu to cause high cpu load? I want to see if my cpu will speed up ?07:13
Soul^Reavermicrosoft viruses cannot survive in a linux enviroment u kill wine u kill virii no damage done07:13
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LjLok just keep repeating yourself that07:13
Soul^Reaverwell wine is also unstable so might be just wine failed also07:14
Dr_willisSoul^Reaver,  this whole discussion is like a broken pencil... pointless..07:14
bronze_0_1slyfox: try some GUI games07:14
LjLwhich is what i've been saying from the beginning.07:14
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LjL99% of viruses don't work *because* of WINE glitches.07:14
Soul^ReaverLjl dont listen to fact07:14
LjLother points are moot.07:14
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konkiis 6.10 upward compatible with 6.06?07:15
Dr_willisand that fact that most viruses these days are very specific to a specific program/exploit. that wine may or may not even be running.. :)07:15
Dr_willis!universe07:15
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:15
Soul^Reaveras one who at one time used to make viruses, I know how they work ljl :)07:15
Alzi2How to access the 'Session manager' configuration in kubuntu?07:15
Soul^Reavershould be in the menu07:15
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konkigives directions for 6.06.. i'm assuming i can use those for 6.1007:15
Alzi2Not in the system config.07:15
Alzi2Found it.07:16
Dr_willis!repo07:16
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:16
Dr_willisHmm.. those shoudl of been updated by now.07:16
Dr_willisI always use the !easysource stuff anyway07:16
Dr_willis!easysource07:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:16
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Soul^Reaverdont forget if u find sumthing make shortcut to desktop or kpanel to find easy again :)07:17
Soul^Reaverwonder if wine will work with EUdemons online :?07:18
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Soul^Reaverhhmmm wine dont come with kubuntu 6.10 :(07:20
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Soul^Reaver!wine07:20
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:20
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konkiyup07:21
Soul^ReaverI hear there other programs suposidly better then wine, ne1 remember the name?07:21
Dr_williswhen in doubt... read the beginner guides.. :)07:21
Dr_williswine, cedega, crossover-office07:21
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jthomasanyone know about running Metisse in Kubuntu?07:21
Dr_willisthen ya got the vmware/qemu/other emulator methods07:21
Soul^Reaverah cedega is it07:21
konkii got the adept manager downloading something07:21
Dr_willisCedega is not free.07:21
Soul^Reaver!cedega07:21
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:21
Soul^Reaverused to be07:22
Dr_willisBut it does seem to work very well.07:22
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konkinot sure exactally how it's working.. but it's working.. right clicked/added multiverse/applied07:22
Dr_willisthe CVS version is 'free'07:22
Soul^Reaverwell  Ihave to find a full version of torrent huh :P07:22
Dr_willisNo not really07:22
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Dr_willisgo pay your $5 or use the cvs. or normal wine..07:22
Soul^Reaverbah07:23
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Dr_willis'egads' you may have to go with out a soda pop.. for a day or 3.....07:23
Dr_willis;)07:23
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Dr_williswork time for me.. bye07:24
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Soul^Reaverpencil dick :p I might have to go without food 3 days :( anyway I using edy can I load cedega on n edgy system?07:25
Soul^Reaveradgy*07:25
Soul^Reaveredgy* damn Keyboard07:25
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hansoohh. now my sound doesn't work and Kmix says that it can't find sound mixer. what can I do?07:26
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blue|palmNEED URGENT HELP: Just started porting my Python Program I had written in windows over to linux on kubuntu, but from programming in eclipse I try to compile the program, only to discover that eclipse is running the python interpreter as a standard user (not as sudo/root as i need it to be) This is simply because my Python program needs to read and write from disk. Somebody please help here!!!07:28
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apokryphos!caps | blue|palm07:28
ubotublue|palm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:28
blue|palmsorry07:28
blue|palmfor shouting07:29
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LjLyou may always run the interpreter and thus your program from a shell i suppose07:29
blue|palmyeah i could, but then debugging is a pain...07:29
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Soul^ReaverWhy can I not D/l Cedega cvs? all this crap explaiing it no d/l07:29
surgyhi07:30
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hattaSoul^Reaver, try this07:30
hattahttp://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html07:30
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blue|palmok i managed to fix it by running eclipse as sudo... sorry for shouting again07:31
Soul^Reavereerrr I lookin for cedega :P07:31
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LjL!cedega | Soul^Reaver07:33
ubotuSoul^Reaver: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:33
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surgyhow do i format an ntfs hdd into an ext3 hdd from within KDE?07:35
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Soul^Reaveruse partition manager07:36
surgysoul: which is where?07:36
user-landHello, every time my Kubuntu tries to access a file, i get "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream"07:36
timsterHow can i set it so it is not required to set a password?07:37
LjL"it" what?07:37
timsterKDE07:37
Soul^Reaversurgy in menu07:37
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timsterI have accouts set to log in without passwords but it sais you must set one07:37
Soul^Reaverkde menu system settings07:37
txwikingerlogon manager07:37
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surgysoul reaver ok thnx07:38
kristjan!ventrilo07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
Soul^Reaverthere 2 tabs click on advanced tab] 07:38
LjLtimster: system settings / advanced / login manager / convenience07:38
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Alarmhello. whats the best way to check my filesystem AND check my partition for general errors ? i saw fsck , but dont know what parameters to use actually . or if it would be better to restart and get into recovery mode to do that fsck07:38
timsterYes, but when i log in it sais I must set a password07:38
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LjLi don't quite know what you're talking about honestly07:39
dreameenhey folks07:39
dreameenare there an good napster clients on linux?07:39
timsterWhen i go log on it sais you must set a new password07:39
timsterthe root requires you set a password07:39
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LjLAlarm: never run fsck on a mounted filesystem, except in read-only mode. besides that, fsck checks the filesystem, but i don't know what you mean by "checking the partition"07:40
LjLtimster: error please07:40
Soul^Reaverwtf root pass diffrent fom my pass? I cant su :(07:40
timsterLet me check again07:40
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LjLSoul^Reaver: no, the root password is not different, it simply isn't there, and no, you can't "su"07:41
AlarmLjL,  well, when starting kubuntu (while it was showing the loading bar) , it started showing me some fsck correction and on one of them did fail, but finally booted into kubuntu. the point is i dont know where i can find the log file to see what failed or how to fix those errors07:41
LjLUbotu, tell Soul^Reaver about root | Soul^Reaver, see the private message from Ubotu07:41
apokryphosSoul^Reaver: all in the FAQ :)07:42
LjLAlarm: /var/log/fsck/07:42
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Hail_Spacecakewhy in god's name does kubuntu not come with 'make' by default?07:42
Soul^ReaverYeah I cannot sudo a ./ command07:42
Hail_Spacecakeand how do I get it without an internet connection?07:42
Soul^Reavermine does07:42
LjLUbotu, tell Hail_Spacecake about build-essential | Hail_Spacecake, see the private message from Ubotu07:43
Soul^Reaverubotu tel ljl STFU :)07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tel ljl STFU :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
LjLHail_Spacecake: i might be mistaken but i believed the necessary packages to be on the CD07:43
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AlarmLjL,  well, i want to make that fsck again to see if everything is now ok. as i saw (from what i noticed actually one of my files that i had was deleted, dont know if others did as well...07:43
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Soul^Reaverwtf??07:43
apokryphosSoul^Reaver: please watch your language and be polite in this channel.07:43
Hail_Spacecakewhat is this?07:44
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Hail_Spacecake"do I really need to compile?"07:44
Soul^Reaverapok I am being nice07:44
Hail_Spacecakeyes, damnit!07:44
LjLUbotu, tell Alarm about fsck | Alarm, see the private message from Ubotu07:44
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LjL!stfu | Soul^Reaver07:44
ubotuSoul^Reaver: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:44
apokryphosHail_Spacecake: what is what?07:44
Alzi2Guys, why is the Universal Sidebar so slow?07:45
Hail_Spacecakethe page on why ubuntu doesn't come with it by default07:45
Soul^Reaverljl then dont use ur stupid bot to talk to me prvmsg me07:45
Hail_Spacecakehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware07:45
Alarmokie , thanks . LjL  u dont suggest it ?07:45
Soul^Reaveru wanna say somthing talk on chan07:45
LjLHail_Spacecake: well, it just doesn't. anyway is it on the CD or not? if it is, as i believed, the problem is non existant07:45
apokryphosSoul^Reaver: the bot is an asset to the channel, and is a convenient way for storing a lot of the fequently asked questions and their solutions.07:46
SanneHail_Spacecake: "do you need to compile" is for people (there are lots) who think they have to compile everything and who don't know about how to install from the repositories.07:46
apokryphosSoul^Reaver: so, please deal with it :)07:46
LjLSoul^Reaver: alright, then let me say something "on chan": you can use the /ignore command if you don't like the bot. mind that very few people will be willing to help you if you do that.07:46
Soul^Reavera bot is retarded whrn u try to type & it cuts u off07:46
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LjLwell, in some cases one certainly *tries* to type. not sure why it'd cut you off though07:46
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capyes_hola07:47
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apokryphosSoul^Reaver: please do not use that word to denote something bad. I'm not going to warn you about language again...07:47
jthomasmaybe because u'r not using "you" ;)07:47
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konkiwhy would packages automatically be kept back?07:47
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surgyi dont see "partition manager" in system settings07:47
Soul^ReaverApok u banned me for not using no langauge & handing it kindly last time, SO take your abuse elsewhere07:47
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Soul^Reaversurgy the blue K07:47
Soul^Reavernot in a sub menu07:48
Soul^Reaverjust in menu says system settings07:48
apokryphosno ban, it was a kick07:48
surgyyea but i dont see "partition manager" in any menus or system settings07:48
kishoreHi I have fiesty installed in a seperate partition. There kcontrol does not list all modules07:48
Soul^Reaverits in advanced tab07:49
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Soul^ReaverApok not hat time07:49
kishoreinstead they are found under lost & found menu! any idea why?07:49
apokryphosSoul^Reaver: yes it was :)07:49
slow-motionhallo07:49
Soul^Reaverthere are 2 tabs surgey above the panel says normal & advanced07:49
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surgyyou mean disks and filesystems?07:50
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linopil!aiglx07:50
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.07:50
harmentaldoes anybody use Xemacs?07:50
timsterFor some reason, i cant log into adept on any settings except the account created with kubuntu07:51
Alzi2How to make those alerts that appear at the top, be smaller and not-so-gray?07:51
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Alarm!fsck07:51
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:51
timster!skype07:52
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:52
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soul^reaversurgy there general & advanced tab07:53
soul^reaverclick on advanced tab07:53
soul^reaveru will see partition manage there07:53
surgyyes and im in advanced tab/ disks and filesystem07:53
surgyok07:53
soul^reaveryeah thats it07:53
timsterCan i replace  controll center with kcontrol?07:53
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surgysoul reaver but no partitioning tools in disks and filesystem07:54
LjLcontrol center *is* kcontrol07:54
timstercan i replaceSystem Settings with Kconrol?07:54
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surgyoh well ill get a third party tool i gues07:54
LjLtimster: yes and no07:54
kishoretimster,  yes you can07:54
LjLtimster: you can't "replace" it, but you can use kcontrol quite fine07:54
timsterCan i put kcontrol on the menu?07:55
LjLtimster: personally i suggest that you right click on the panel, "Add applet", and choose "Settings"07:55
LjLtimster: that will give you a menu with all the kcontrol applets listed07:55
kishorewell asuming you mean the kmenu entry.. yes you can.. :-)07:55
LjLtimster: you most certainly can add it to the menu if you like, just like any other program07:55
LjLjust right click on the K menu and menu editor07:55
sorush20hi07:55
kishorein feisty im having a lilproblem with kcontrol07:56
sorush20I'm making a zip file .. is it possible to select a higher compression level or not ?07:56
sorush20using ark07:56
kishoremost of the modules are not listed07:56
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Hail_Spacecakewhat is the name of the package with make I need to be searching for? build-essentials?07:57
timsterMy screensave is rubish! I have a gforce graphics card, how come it comes out so badd?07:57
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LjLtimster: do you have the proprietary drivers installed?07:57
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anosahow to enable utomatic login?07:57
LjLHail_Spacecake: build-essential07:57
LjLit says that on the page though07:57
LjL!build-essential07:57
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:57
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lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?07:58
LjLanosa:  system settings / advanced / login manager / convenience07:58
Hail_SpacecakeI'm not getting a build-essential searching in Adept manager07:58
djwilcoxhi anyone got any tips on partitioning a hard drive07:58
Hail_SpacecakeI'm not sure if it has the CD as a source, though07:58
Hail_Spacecakealthough it really should by default07:58
LjLHail_Spacecake: unsure. the Desktop CD is also kind of unknown to me07:58
ziza!de07:58
anosathanx07:58
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:58
djwilcoxim trying to do a dual boot mac and kubuntu - whats a swap drive ?07:58
LjLHail_Spacecake: try with apt-cache anyway, i'm not familiar with adept07:58
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LjLHail_Spacecake: at any rate, if it isn't available at all, do you have some means to transfer (large) files to that computer?07:59
SanneHail_Spacecake: the cd is in the sources list only if you used the alternate cd during install. The live/desktop cd uses a different package format and can't be used as a repository.07:59
timsterAHh Skype works!07:59
Hail_Spacecakeah, damn07:59
kishoreHail_Spacecake: also make sure you have performed apt-get update and there we no errors07:59
konkiswap drive is a temporary drive used for when your system runs out of ram07:59
djwilcoxright07:59
Hail_Spacecakekishore: I did08:00
djwilcoxi have partitioned my hard drive into 508:00
Hail_Spacecakeit didn't find anything08:00
Hail_Spacecakeprobably because I have no internet connection08:00
konki5 partitions could be useful.. or could just confuse you on where to save things08:00
djwilcox1 mac 2 yaboot 3 kubuntu 4 kubuntu home 5 shared drive08:00
Hail_Spacecakethat's what I need it for, to compile ndiswrapper so I can find one08:00
djwilcox3 paritions for kubuntu08:00
djwilcox1 yaboot 2 kubuntu root 3 kubuntu home08:01
djwilcoxwhere do i put the swap ?08:01
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konkiyou need a partition for your swap08:01
konkidoesn't have to be very big though08:02
djwilcoxright how big ?08:02
konki500mb will proally be good08:02
djwilcoxgreat08:02
kishorehow much ram do you have?08:02
djwilcox1.3 ghz08:02
konkiyou could make it 25608:02
kishorekeep as much swap or you wont be able to perform a hibernate08:02
konkigood call on the hibernation08:02
djwilcoxhibernate means sleep08:02
konkiyup08:03
djwilcoxor do i have to go and sleep in a cave08:03
kishoresuspend to disk08:03
slyfoxGuys, please help. I think I need to reinstall Kubuntu and NOT update to KDE 3.5.6 Althout that may not be what have casue the problem. None of hte VOIP applicaitons work for me, skype, gizmo, Wengo, none. Skype and Gizmo have choppy sound and wengo phone gives me tiny mickey mouse voice. Help.08:03
djwilcoxthanks for the tips08:03
djwilcoxwhat about the disk format08:03
djwilcoxdoing a dual boot with mac08:03
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konkiformat is a good idea if you don't have any info to loose08:04
kishoreext3 works well for linux08:04
djwilcoxsays the yaboot needs to be hfs - is that right08:04
djwilcoxis ext3 the disk format for kubuntu08:04
konkii think that's the format for the home partition08:04
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kishoreext3 is  a supported format as is reiserfs etc08:05
frojndis possible to put amule in tray and how if it's ?08:05
djwilcoxah got 768 of ram08:05
djwilcoxhow does that affect the swap drive size08:05
kishoregood so you could give it 1gb ram if there is not much to loose08:05
konkihow much hard drive do you have?08:05
djwilcox75 gb08:05
djwilcoxso how big should the swap drive be08:06
djwilcox1 gig08:06
konki500mb is enuf.. 1g would be better for things like sleep mode.. might just turn into wasted space though08:06
djwilcoxright so 500mb08:06
timsterI have a windows home netwrok with my printer connected, how can I access that?08:07
kishoreyes dont think you would use the space for anything other than suspend to disk..08:07
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kishoredo you need that feature? it does not affect Suspend to RAM08:07
timster!network08:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:07
djwilcoxit comes up during the install08:07
djwilcoxsays i need a swap drive08:07
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djwilcoxcan i ignore that - but will that mean i cant put it to sleep08:08
timster!printer08:08
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:08
blekoshi, i have install spamassing from adept manager, but kontact doesnt detect it08:09
kishorealways keep a swap event if you dont use it much of the time08:09
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kishorei find my system more stable inmost occasions with swapenabled08:09
djwilcoxso i create 4 partitions for kubuntu08:09
kishorealthough i rarely use it up08:09
djwilcoxyaboot swap kubuntu root + kubuntu home08:09
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kishoresure08:10
slyfoxDoes anyone here knows how to work withou sound hardware or reisntall it?08:10
djwilcoxthanks kishore08:10
kishorewelcome08:10
djwilcoxjust switched from mac08:10
kishorebig welcome!08:11
sorush20hi can I use the compression level or not08:11
djwilcoxused to unix so im loving all the geek tools08:11
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djwilcoxdoes kubuntu 6.10 work with airport extreme wireless cards08:12
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kishoreno sure about that one08:12
kishorewireless cards seems to be among the weakent links...08:13
crazy_bjr !08:13
djwilcoxive seen a few things about - will have to try08:13
crazy_hi !08:13
djwilcoxabout the broadcom cards08:13
kishorei guess it uses a broadcom chip.. so you might be able to with some struggle08:13
lgsobalvarroit's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?08:14
kishorelgsobalvarro: it is possibel08:14
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exel#ubuntu-es08:15
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kishorejst instal kpowersave.. although  i would recommend using the latest version. 7.1?08:15
lgsobalvarrokishore: ok... and it works fine? how i can deactive power manager?08:15
kishore7.1 uses HAL for its functionality and yes it seems to work fine08:16
timsterOk, can i have some help? I have a Printer netwroked to myy windows pc over a wirless network. I can reach my windows documents, but I can get to the printer. How can i do this?08:17
lgsobalvarrook tnx kishore08:17
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kishorepreventing guidance-powermanager from starting requires editing /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop08:17
lgsobalvarrokishore: what i change there?08:18
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kishoreadd the line "X-KDE-autostart-condition=power-managerrc:General:RunOnStart:false"08:18
Alzi2How to make those alerts that appear at the top, be smaller and not-so-gray?08:19
baronmordockpardon me, does anyone know how I can get my repositories back? Adept won't show me any. =(08:19
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kishorebaron: check /etc/apt/sources.list08:19
kishoreif its empty you need to repopulate it08:20
christianeHello. When I copy text form Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. How to prevent that?08:20
lgsobalvarrook kishore, done. Something else?08:20
baronmordockokay, I'll try that. do I enter the command in the terminal or in adept?08:20
kishoreThat should prevent it from auto starting08:20
kishorein the terminal08:20
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timsterWhat do i need to do to get flash working?08:21
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timsterWhats its name in adept?08:21
kishoreflashplugin08:21
lgsobalvarrowell thanks you kishore08:21
timsterk08:21
slyfoxHow do I resintall Kubuntu and kee my /Home  folders that I have created safe? I want to have a clean reisntall of Kubuntu becasue of my sound problem08:21
kishoreand flashplugin-nonfree08:21
slyfox*and keep08:21
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job_Evening folks08:22
kishorewell back it up and copy t back again! :-)08:22
timsterIs there a linux equiavlent of DarkRoom?08:22
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timsterHow can i set Konversation to automaticly IDENTIFY08:24
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baronmordockkishore- I tried the command, but it says "permission denied"08:25
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kishorewhat exactly did you put in the terminal?08:25
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kishorewell just read the file with say kate or kwrite08:26
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kishoreand check if its populated08:26
slyfoxkishore: back up what? The files I wan to keep to a seperate hard ddrive and reformat /home ?08:26
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baronmordockI tried check /etc/apt/sources.list (which did nothing), then /etc/apt/sources.list, which told me "permission denied"08:27
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kishoreok do you have home in a seperate partition? its then straightforward and yo need to backup08:28
kishorebut forsafety08:28
apokryphosbaronmordock: it's a text file, so of course it's not executable08:28
kishorein the terminal "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"08:28
apokryphoskishore: no! :)08:29
apokryphos!kdesu08:29
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:29
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timsterATLANTIK TOURNAMENT08:30
baronmordockalright, I'll try that08:30
timsterYay08:30
apokryphosbaronmordock: so: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:30
timsterOn the only populated server. Im deviance08:30
apokryphostimster: eh?08:30
timsterEveryone play atlantic08:30
apokryphostimster: #kubuntu-offtopic08:30
timster:(08:30
timsterok08:30
frojnd!rar08:31
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free08:31
timsterWhat is nonfree?08:31
kishoreapok: right. its the kde way although sudo works as well :-)08:31
timster!non-free08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
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apokryphoskishore: no.... see what ubotu said. Using sudo can cause serious problems for you.08:31
apokryphos!free08:32
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing08:32
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baronmordockdidn't mean to start an arguement =P  anywho, Kate pulled something up08:32
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baronmordockthe sources list08:33
kishorewell im not sure how it can screwup but yes its still the "right way"08:33
apokryphoskishore: read what ubotu said -- it can muck around with your permissions and break your DCOP sockets08:33
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apokryphosso please don't advise anyone to use it :)08:34
kishoreah ok. ill keep that in mind :-)08:34
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baronmordockthere's nothing in the sources list08:35
apokryphosare you sure you typed it right?08:36
apokryphoskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:36
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kishoreok then there is a website that can generate one for you.. can someone point it out?08:36
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apokryphos!source-o-matic08:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:37
baronmordockyeah, I typed it in =(08:37
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baronmordockoh, okay, thanks a lot =)08:37
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kishoretry http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/08:37
lunitikherd2 didn't work here for desktop or alternative... and same results with daily as of about a week ago08:37
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kishoreherd 1 worked for me08:38
kishoreheard 2 failed08:38
kishoreamd64here08:38
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kishorei track things on launchpad and install as i need08:40
kishoredist-upgrade quite often too08:40
lunitikI ... hate launchpad....08:40
apokryphosI don't like malone, but launchpad isn't so bad08:40
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lunitikThe interface is ugly, its a pain to file bugs on it... just bad08:41
apokryphosthough it'd be nice if Ubuntu's project manager was open source :/08:41
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apokryphosthat's partly malone, stupid bugtracker :P08:41
lunitikEven trying to keep track of projects, or groups is a mess....08:42
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lunitikNo organization at all08:42
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atidemhi08:46
ubuntuhello hello08:46
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jmfrancoishi, on a fresh kubuntu install firefox menu are broken ... is this a bug ?08:47
ubuntu_any female's that would like to chat?08:48
galathalionhaha08:48
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Tm_Tubuntu_: I warn you, this is not a date chat.08:48
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underdog5004rofl08:49
underdog5004girls in the linux channel?08:49
underdog5004not likely\08:49
ubuntu_TM_T i Warn i just like to chat its what teens do right?08:50
Tm_Tunderdog5004: Myth about human group called "girls" is just soviet propaganda.08:50
notechthere are more than you think, obviously08:50
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Tm_Tubuntu_: Well, this is support channel.08:50
underdog5004in soviet russia, girls propoganda you!08:50
firecrotchubuntu_: #kubuntu-offtopic08:50
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ubuntu_well i am new to this sorry08:50
ubuntu_i did not know08:50
Tm_TNo prob, that's why I didn't remove you yet. ;)08:51
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nuxilhow do i turn off that usb-stick auto mounting stuff.. it anoys me08:52
notechhmm, usually from what i've seen, a bit of offtopic has been allowed here as long as it didn't interfere with those wanting help. differences in ops maybe08:52
Tm_Tnotech: Well, little offtopic is ok but "girls?!" kinda things are red flag.08:52
Tm_TAs I said, this is not a date chat.08:53
notechTm_T: ah, i see :)08:53
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jmfrancoishttp://jm406.free.fr/bug1.jpg08:53
ubuntu_Tm_T you could but i will come back ip changer & u can not see my surf08:53
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Tm_Tubuntu_: Your point being?08:53
ubuntu_just to piss you off08:53
Tm_TFailed.08:53
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notechUbugtu: you will be found, and jumping bans is a good way to get banned permanently08:54
kishoreok.. no cookies for you08:54
notechgrr08:54
notechtab complation got me. sorry Ubugtu08:54
Tm_Tnotech: Aye, also might find axe from the door.08:54
ubuntu_try?08:54
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nuxilhey.. can you guys help instead of talking bull ?08:55
kishorenuxil: are you refering to the popup dialog?08:55
ubuntu_lol08:55
jmfrancoissame08:55
hattapopup dialog? he said this wasn't a date chat!08:55
Bxnp-awaywhat is your problem nuxil08:55
Tm_Tnuxil: Automount? Hmm, IIRC systemsettings has something related to it.08:55
Tm_Thatta: !08:55
jmfrancoisgot a graphic bug into firefox : http://jm406.free.fr/bug1.jpg08:55
nuxilkishore, well.. when ever i plug in my usb stic it kida auto mounts,., even tho i put do nothing and remember in that dialog08:55
kishorethe next time its mounted, right click on it08:56
kishoreselect mounting options and check if automount is ticked08:56
blekoshi, i try to install avg, i follow a guide where it says i have to type rpm bla bla bla, but i get the message08:56
nuxilok,, i'll try08:56
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blekosrpm command not found any ideas?08:56
eihnatrpm > redhat package management.08:57
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atidemblekos: rpm on a debian-based distro?08:57
blekosi know,08:57
kishorethis is debian based distrouse debs! rpm does work however08:57
notechblekos: kubuntu iis not a rpm based distro, it uses .deb's08:57
kishoresudo apt-get install rpm08:57
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notechreally, didn't know it would do rpm's08:58
blekosi know that but hava a look here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-avg-antivirus-in-ubuntu-desktop.html08:58
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timsterWhats the point in antivirus on linux?08:58
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kishoreim curious..08:58
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notechtimster: useful if running a mail server, but not sure that's what that is for08:59
Tm_Ttimster: To kill Windows viruses, and oh, there _is_ "virus" for linux too.08:59
firecrotchtimster: Basically to catch Windows viruses so taht you don't spread them08:59
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timsterTm_T, there are linux viruses?09:00
ubuntu_how to i join other chats09:00
ubuntu_please09:00
timster /join #server09:00
ubuntu_thanks09:00
Tm_Tubuntu_: /j #channel09:00
linopilwhere can I easily troubleshoot sound on new onboard coreduo sound09:00
kishorewhat kinda chat are you talkin about?09:00
Tm_Ttimster: You don't join to servers really. ;)09:00
blekosthink i got it  i did a apt-get install rpm09:00
notechblekos: that's what kishore suggested :)09:01
linopilubuntu_ start with /nick some -good-name09:01
eihnatblekos: try to follow that guide now. ;)09:01
Tm_Tubuntu_: Anyway, use mighty google to search some basic irc-guide, also may found in help.ubuntu.com09:01
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blekosyeap thnx ;)09:01
kishorethe site suggests using alien to convert rpm to deb09:01
Tm_T!alien09:02
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)09:02
eihnatblekos: ever considered to try clamav?09:02
blekosi've installed it, but dont know how to update its virus base :))09:03
blekosi am a newbie09:03
kishoreim not very comfortable using rpm and alien.. try an alternative id say.. :-)09:03
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blekosand when i run it, i get a message like this is an old version09:03
linopilwhy is an antivirus important for linux ?09:03
nuxilWHAT?09:04
blekoswell aegis is not supported by kontact :(09:04
blekosav is important if the 98%  of ppl u r dealing with r using windoz09:04
eihnatlinopil: either linux is safe from viruses, in windows environment u still can spread viruses to other systems.09:04
eihnatblekos: klamav (KDE extension for clamav) has easy tool to update. i think. haven't use it for a while tho.09:05
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sorush20how do I create a times table of 1-12 times by 1-12 in open office calc?09:05
blekoswell, i'll give a try 2 both09:06
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eihnatblekos: also f-prot is good too. but not sure if there is deb version. was rpm, cuz used it on fedora.09:07
kishoreOT -  how do you put out these status msgs that start with a *?09:08
kishoretodays is my first time ever with IRC and hence konversation too09:08
blekosi c09:08
blekosmight have a look09:08
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kishore!status msgs09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about status msgs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:10
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kishorenuxil above just put one out... :-)09:11
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kishoreyes!09:11
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ziza_!de09:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:11
ziza_!de09:11
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SSJ_GZPut "/me" (without the quotes) in front of your message :)09:11
timsterWith the flash plugin, why does it keep freezing?09:12
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timsterLike on a youtube video09:12
kishoreWheee! thanks SSJ_GZ09:12
SSJ_GZkishore:No probs :)09:12
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jmichaelxtimster: do you have an updated flash plugin?09:13
timsterOnly just installed it09:13
jmichaelxflash9 should not do that09:13
timsterHow do i get 9?09:13
jmichaelxwhat was the name of the package you installed?09:13
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Plaguezsudo apt-get install non-free flash09:13
jmichaelxi don't think that is the exact name, Plaguez09:14
PlaguezLadies and Gentlemen, that was an elite ubuntu command.09:14
filippociao09:14
kishoreits flashplugin-nonfree09:14
PlaguezSomething like that09:14
Plaguezyeah09:14
timsterI installed flashplugin-nonfree09:14
eihnatPlaguez: elite ubuntu command? :D09:14
djwilcoxon the video side what about dvds09:14
jmichaelxtimster: i am not sure what you problem might be, then.... are you using FF2.0?09:14
timster1.509:14
kishoreim here on amd64 so no flash for me..09:14
kishore is it version 9?09:15
jmichaelxhmmm09:15
PlaguezJust joking einhat09:15
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timsterHow can i check the verson?09:15
djwilcoxdo u have to install some additional librarys - so vlc can play dvds09:15
eihnatPlaguez: i know09:15
eihnat;)09:15
jmichaelxtimster: if you installed flashplugin-nonfree, then you should have flash909:15
PlaguezI'm not even a kubuntu user, used to be after the clock applet and such randomly crashed, I bailed out and had to re install ubuntu09:15
PlaguezI'm with gnome now :-)09:16
jmichaelxtimster: it could be that you still have the flash7 plugin installed, as well?09:16
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PlaguezDoes anyone here listen to Ludacris?09:16
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timsterNope, Kubuntu installed yesterday09:16
jmichaelxi'm not sure if apt will allow someone to have both versions installed, but you could check that09:16
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jmichaelxtimster: dapper or edgy?09:17
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timster6.0609:17
jmichaelxhmm09:17
kishoreguess you need 6.1009:17
timsterbugger09:17
PlaguezMissy elliot totally pwns09:17
kishorenot sure though09:17
timsterI only had the shipit disks09:17
jmichaelxi still have one machine running dapper, but unfortunately it is not connected right now09:17
jmichaelxtimster: if you have a little time, you could upgrade09:18
kishoreand bandwidth09:18
kishore:-)09:18
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jmichaelxbandwidth would be good09:18
PlaguezDid anyone here have DNS problems with ubuntu when they first installed?09:18
kishorenope09:18
kishorenot me09:18
PlaguezLike, taking ages to resolve a website (20 secs)09:18
timsterHow do i upgrade?09:18
apokryphostimster: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic09:18
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PlaguezIt's okay, I fixed it now.09:19
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jmichaelxtimster: follow the docs, it is not too complicated09:19
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PlaguezIs t only me that thinks the film hackers was crap?09:19
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Plaguez1995 version09:19
topsyhello09:19
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Plaguezhi topsy, did you see the film hackers? I thought it was rubbish.09:19
hattano, everyone thinks hackers was crap09:20
Plaguezlol09:20
hattasome people just think it's so crappy it's good09:20
mattis1just loading it09:20
timsterIs it worth the upgrade?09:20
PlaguezProbably the people that no nothing, thought it was good.09:20
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topsyno i didn't..but i have heard it's very crappy09:20
kishorei would have done it!09:20
topsy:)09:20
jmichaelxman, somehow i got banned from ##slackware, and i can't get a hold of any ops to straighten this out09:20
PlaguezThat gy droning around on his skateboard was hilarious09:20
jmichaelxtimster: i would personally recommend it09:21
Plaguez"blow me" "thank you" Hahaha.09:21
timsterOk09:21
PlaguezMad skillz yo.09:21
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topsyi have an odd problem problem with kubuntu..i can't start any programs..hopefully someone can help me out =/09:21
PlaguezSo, anyone want help wth anything? I'll try and be useful09:22
topsyi'm new with this platform09:22
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Plagueztopsy, did you try starting them from the command line?09:22
Tm_TPlaguez: Yes, I need 20 000  mind to lend?09:22
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Plaguezlol Tm_T09:22
eihnatTm_T: lmao09:22
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eihnattopsy: how u mean u cant start them?09:23
PlaguezWhat would you need 20, 000 grand for anyway? That new blow up doll you wanted?09:23
Plaguezlol09:23
externI can't anymore compile my program. A few days ago it worked fine, it wasn't modified. Now I get a lot of simillar errors. Here's a sample: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/memory:57:36: error: bits/stl_uninitialized.h: No such file or directory09:23
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wmustersi have a problem insatlling a hp 4370 scanner using this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151814&highlight=437009:24
kristinahi, what packages do I need to compile opengl programs?09:24
Tm_TPlaguez: Nothing, just a joke. ;(09:24
topsyi mean that..if i try to start example "start.exe" from kubuntu cd..that dont open09:24
PlaguezI once ordered a blow up doll and it arrived in my victims house, it was an explosive doll, packed with semtex.09:24
linopilfirefox dies on some sites ? why?09:25
wmustersi cant get kooda to see use the scanner, i sees it at startup but not after that09:25
topsysorry my bad english =/09:25
eihnattopsy: exe are windows programs.09:25
topsyokay..09:25
Plaguez<linopil> Maybe you've just installed flash?09:25
Tm_T:)09:25
eihnattopsy: u need wine to run windows applicatrions09:25
eihnat*applications09:25
externexit09:25
externoops09:26
Plaguezlol09:26
slow-motionlol Plaguez09:26
Plaguezterminate09:26
eihnatextern: lol09:26
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andriijasdoes xgl work well with kde in kubuntu or is it unstable?09:27
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[abhishek] is there any good software for flash creation like macromedia flash for linux?09:27
eihnat!xgl09:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:27
[abhishek] !flash09:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:28
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash09:28
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Plaguezkjjk09:29
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eihnat!backports09:29
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports09:29
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eihnathmm09:29
Plaguezeinhat, do you use KDE?09:30
eihnatyes09:30
eihnatalso09:30
eihnat:)09:30
topsy!flash09:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:30
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash09:30
timster!flash09:30
PlaguezDid you ever have problems, when installing KDE, then going back to gnome, like the clock applet crashing etc?09:30
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eihnatnope09:31
eihnatgot gnome xfce4 and kde and no probs.09:31
PlaguezThat's why I've had to re-install ubuntu and stick with gnome, i liked kde though09:31
Tm_TUgh, going to sleep, so behave kids! ->09:31
eihnatPlaguez: why didnt u install kubutnu then?09:31
jmichaelxPlaguez: i have never had a problem like that either09:31
PlaguezCan anyone tell me is the firestarter firewall any good?09:31
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Plaguezbecause I was giving it a go einhat09:32
eihnatPlaguez: good as any other. lol09:32
jmichaelxPlaguez: well, you already have the firewall09:32
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jmichaelxPlaguez: firestarter is just a frontend for the firewall that is installed with *ubuntu09:32
PlaguezYeah but I scanned my own comp with the network tools, and it said 3 ports were open, aren't these a concern?09:32
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gdiebelI am testing kubuntu 3.5.6 packages in my office. (~40 workstations) so far so good and I would like to deploy, any upgrade issues to be aware of?09:33
eihnatPlaguez: what ports?09:33
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Plaguez663, and others that limewire.09:33
Plaguezuse09:33
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PlaguezDon't hack me man, lol09:33
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eihnatPlaguez: well, if u want to use limewire u need them opened. ;)09:34
jmichaelxgdiebel: no expert here, but i upgraded to 3.5.6 on 3 machines, 2 desktops and one laptop, and so far no issues at all09:34
PlaguezI know, so I have nothing to worry about then?09:34
jmichaelx*is busy hacking Plaguez09:34
PlaguezHaha.09:34
eihnatjmichalx: lol. need help?09:34
[abhishek] !ming09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
jmichaelxlol09:34
eihnatPlaguez: what kind of connection u have?09:35
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Plaguezboradband connection, netopia asdl router, always on...09:35
eihnatPlaguez: doesnt router have firewall build in?09:35
PlaguezPlus, do I have much to worry about with viruses? I mean, I have no anti virus software installed, amI still safe?09:36
gan|y|medhello09:36
Plaguezyeah it does, im just concerned09:36
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PlaguezSince not much viruses are written for ubuntu? lol09:36
eihnatPlaguez: well if u didnt change hardware firewall settings, all incoming traffic is blocked anyway.09:36
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Plaguezok einhat thanks09:37
sebbaris there a specific feisty discussion channel?09:37
jmichaelxPlaguez: i was not get overly worried about viruses, but you can install clamav (or klamav)09:37
eihnat!feisty09:37
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+109:37
Plaguezok I'll try that, thanks09:37
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will_Hey guys.  I know this is not your style, but does anyone know how to upgrade kubuntu through the gui?  I'm not a techy and if you give me the command lines I'm likely to be back on here for the next upgrade.09:38
Plaguezok jmichaelk09:38
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jmichaelxPlaguez: the main advantage in using an anti-virus in linux, at this point, at least, would be to keep your PCs from being 'carriers' of windows viruses, and passing them on to windows machines09:38
eihnatPlaguez: if u use linux with widnwos machines u'd better have antivirus. to protect them tho. lol09:38
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surgywhats the command to partition a hard drive? with ext3?09:39
a1010100mhello people09:39
eihnatwill_: doesnt adept allow u to do it? i personaly dont know09:39
PlaguezHmm. I have panada desktop secure, I could try that, that seems to have an anti virus.09:39
eihnatwill_: cuz never did distro upgrade.09:40
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eihnatsurgy: mkfs.ext3 i think. not sure tho.09:40
eihnatsurgy: wait09:40
jmichaelxwill_: if you are using adept, you just need to go into your repos, and manually change 'dapper' to 'edgy' in every repo line, update, then upgrade09:40
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surgywell i want to delete my ntfs partition and repartition using ext309:41
will_eihnat: I guess my first question is, how do I check to see what version I'm currently running and what kind of automatic update settings I have09:41
eihnatsurgy: mke2fs09:41
matthew__That story about installing spyware on kubuntu is now on www.digg.com09:41
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a1010100mI hawe one question.09:41
will_jmichaelx: thanks.  I'll try that09:41
surgyeihnat: so "mke2fs /dev/sdb" and that will delete my ntfs partition and make a new ext3 partition?09:42
PlaguezAny hackers here?09:42
eihnatsurgy: man mke2fs for options09:42
eihnatPlaguez: lol. need to try ur system?09:42
a1010100mI am using KUBUNTU, but I dont like it, can I install fluxbox ???09:42
a1010100mand unistall KDE09:43
surgyeihnat: i dont understand the options though09:43
a1010100m???09:43
eihnata1010100m: not sure bout fluxbox, but u can try xfce409:43
jmichaelxwill_: after you change the repos and update, i am not sure, you may be better off to open a terminal and enter 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade', but i think adept should also handle this.09:43
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a1010100mI have very slow mashine here...09:43
a1010100m400 mhz09:44
surgyeihnat: yeah im not that good and i dont understand.......09:44
jmichaelxa1010100m: there is a new *ubuntu in development called fluxbuntu, but it is alpha or beta at this time09:44
a1010100mand it`s big problem to experiment with this mashine...09:44
jmichaelxa1010100m: i would go with xfce4 right now09:44
jmichaelxxubuntu09:44
hattafluxbox is the shit09:45
surgywhats so great about fluxbox?09:45
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jmichaelxfluxbox is aweome, but it takes more time to figure it out09:45
jmichaelxawesome*09:45
hattafast as anything, mouse wheel scrolls between desktops, window shading, built in tabbing09:45
eihnatsurgy: mke2fs -v -c -J /dev/sdb should do it. not sure.09:46
jmichaelxa1010100m: you would need to 'sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop' and then 'sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop'09:46
surgyeihnat: if your not sure then im not sure if im gonna do it :)09:46
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eihnatsurgy: did it only once tho. and ages ago. so not 100 % sure.09:47
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a1010100mI will try to install over a package menager, and than unistall kde09:47
eihnatsurgy: i'm more not sure bout /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb109:47
eihnatoption09:47
jmichaelxa1010100m: that should work fine09:47
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surgyeihnat: its kewl man ill wait for someone that knows 100% no ofense09:48
topsyi tried to run flash player installation program for linux but that didn't opened either..strange09:48
topsyhmm...09:48
surgy!partition09:48
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:49
eihnatsurgy: it's ok. :)09:49
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hattasurgy, delete/make partitions with 'cfdisk'09:49
surgy!Gparted09:49
ubotugparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:49
hattaformat them with mke2fs09:49
surgyhatta can i not use gparted?09:49
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hattaoh I guess you could09:50
eihnatsurgy: u can.09:50
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hattacfdisk is so easy to use though09:50
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matthew__hatta, I love cfdisk!09:50
BlackenI forget, but how do you fix grub if something (saaaay...Windows) has overwritten the MBR? grub-install, yes, but I forget the syntax and would rather not have to go "oh crap" later.09:50
gnomefreak!grub | Blacken09:50
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andriijashttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090  is this the guiide to follow( is it up to date?) to install xgl?09:50
BlackenAha, thanks.09:50
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eihnatandriijas: also u can have a look at ubuntuguide.org. but not sure if up to date too.09:51
surgygparted works great thnx guyrs09:52
eihnatsurgy: np09:52
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kutkinnahow to make titlebar transparent /10:02
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will_is edgy stable now?  or should I stick with dapper?10:08
Skrot-Seems quite stable to me10:09
jugheadI don't have any stability problems10:09
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will_is it still considered a BETA10:09
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blekoswhat's the line command 2 rmv a package?10:10
andriijas!xgl10:11
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chavoblekos, sudo apt-get remove10:11
blekosthnx10:11
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blekoscould u also tell me how to c the processes that r running?10:12
blekosi need to keel adept10:12
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apokryphosblekos: ps aux10:13
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johnnwhat is the most easy dvd->avi rip frontend?10:17
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esaymany lightscribe software that works good in kde?10:19
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devilsadvocateesaym, what is a lightscribe software?10:20
devilsadvocatewould scribus be of use to you?10:20
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adaptrdevilsadvocate: probably not.. lightscribe is aprocess to burn an image *on the cd* while .. burning the CD10:21
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adaptrdevilsadvocate: like the WIndows logo cd's ?10:21
josh_i have a problem10:21
josh_i just screwed up my windows partition10:21
devilsadvocateadaptr, ah10:21
adaptrindeed10:21
devilsadvocateis that even possible? :P10:21
johnnboth lightscribe.com and lacie.com programs work fine for lightscribe10:22
adaptrdevilsadvocate: certainly, there are many drives for it these days10:22
esaymits a new disc lable technology i think10:22
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josh_the blue thing that goes across when windows loads just freezes, keeps going, freezes, and keeps going forever.10:22
adaptrdevilsadvocate: admittedlym, they don't write it while burning, but separately,.. it takes aaages10:22
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jmichaelxhow do you know if your drive is a lightscribe?10:22
devilsadvocateadaptr, thanks a lot. i'll have a look ... it seems interesting, to say the least10:22
adaptrdevilsadvocate: the conversion from cartesian to radial is a fun part of it :)10:22
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devilsadvocateadaptr, ive done enough of _that_ to handle it.. simple shapes atleast :)10:23
adaptrdevilsadvocate: I would be pretty proud if a straight line came out as even marginably straight10:23
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adaptrdevilsadvocate: the software is supposed to help with that :)10:23
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devilsadvocateah..10:23
adaptrdevilsadvocate: and you obviously need a drive that can switch its laser on and off PDQ - so no ordinary drive will do10:24
kutkinnahow to change the start menu iconj ?10:24
adaptrPDQ as in 1000 times a second, give or take...10:24
kutkinna*icon10:24
adaptr!icons10:24
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adaptrno, you silly bot ! not htat one10:24
eihnat|awaylol10:25
newuserguys I need help ... I installed kubuntu on hdb1 ... I have windows on sda1 but grub doesnt work correctly even if it is configured in the right way ... who can help me pls?10:25
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devilsadvocatenewuser, what do you mean grub isnt woring corrctly?10:26
eihnat|awaynewuser: error 17 or 18?10:26
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newuserdevilsadvocate: if i boot my pc from hdb1 and try to start ubuntu grub tells me error17: cannot mount selected partition ... if I try to start windows it tells me starting up, invalid system disk, replace the disk and then press any key10:27
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newuserdevilsadvocate:  eihnat but If I boot from sda1 (where windows is installed) the so starts (windows only)10:28
devilsadvocatenewuser, are you positive hdc1 is your kubuntu drive?10:28
devilsadvocatehdb1*10:28
ThingolFhow do you do beryl in kde?10:28
eihnat!beryl10:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:28
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newuserdevilsadvocate: yes im sure it is ... hold on I ll send u my fdisk -l10:29
newuser!pastebin10:29
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newuserdevilsadvocate: eihnat http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3379/10:30
newuserdevilsadvocate: eihnat hda has no so installed on10:30
LobsterWing..10:31
devilsadvocatenewuser, you have 3 harddrives right?10:31
newuserdevilsadvocate: yes i have10:31
devilsadvocatenewuser, hdb2 is not kubuntu. it is the swap partition10:31
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newuserdevilsadvocate: I know ... kubuntu one is hdb110:31
devilsadvocatenewuser, one of hdb1 and hdb3 is kubuntu .10:32
newuserdevilsadvocate: I told u :P10:32
eihnat:)10:32
devilsadvocatenewuser, can you post your menu.lst too ?10:32
devilsadvocateah newuser , sorry :P10:32
newuserIm under live so I dont know If I can10:32
hattahda, hdb, hdc are hard drives10:32
devilsadvocaterequest for menu.lst stands though :)10:32
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hattahdb1, hdb2, hdb3, etc are partitions10:32
hattaconfusing them could be bad10:32
newuserdevilsadvocate: what do I have to do to posto menu.kst?10:32
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devilsadvocatenewuser, you can. open a terminal and supe sudo mkdir /media/kubuntu10:33
devilsadvocateand type*10:33
newuserdevilsadvocate: done ... now?10:33
devilsadvocatethen type sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/kubuntu10:33
newuserdevilsadvocate: done ... now?10:33
devilsadvocatethen cd /media/kubuntu/boot/grub10:34
devilsadvocateyou can find the file there10:34
newuserdevilsadvocate: done ... now?10:34
devilsadvocatevi menu.lst10:34
nuxilanyone else experiancing lagging on the desktop when moving windows with nvidia 9746 drivers on geforce 8800 card ?10:34
devilsadvocateor nano, or kate, whicheve you are comfortable with10:34
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newuserdevilsadvocate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3380/ I hope I pasted u in the right way10:36
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devilsadvocatesure neoncode10:37
devilsadvocatenewuser, *10:37
neoncodeWhat now?10:37
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julian_hi10:37
julian_i did this 'rm mods-available/proxy*'10:37
julian_how i can get the config files afain?10:38
julian_again10:38
neoncodenuxil: Speaking of the 8800 cards, when is nvidia makeing linux drivers for them?10:38
devilsadvocateneoncode, sorry10:38
neoncodedevilsadvocate: Oh, ok. =310:38
devilsadvocatenewuser, did you try booting into recovery mode?10:38
newuserdevilsadvocate: yes I did ... doesnt work10:38
nuxilneoncode when is? they already did10:38
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devilsadvocatenewuser, your config files seem alright10:40
devilsadvocateyou could try checking the filesystem for errors10:40
AmadeoI have a lot of problems with Adept...it never seems to want to load...it tries then just stops10:40
neoncodenuxil: Oh, i thought from what you said before that they haden't. Nevermind.10:40
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newuserdevilsadvocate: I knew it wa wlaright but i dont know why it doesnt work :(10:40
Amadeoonce and a while it works10:40
devilsadvocatei _think_ e2fsck /dev/hdb110:40
eihnatAmadeo: isnt there any other Adept already running?10:40
newuserdevilsadvocate: e2fsck /dev/hdb1 to do what?10:41
Amadeoeihnat: If there is, it shouldn't be10:41
devilsadvocatenewuser, to check the file  system integrity10:41
eihnatAmadeo: i know.10:41
newuserdevilsadvocate: ah ok :)10:41
devilsadvocatealthough since it mounted here i dont think there is a problem10:41
AmadeoHow long does it take Adept to exit?10:41
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surgyok i have big big problems10:41
eihnatAmadeo: had similar problems with kaffeine, didnt want to load. cuz other was running in background10:41
surgywhen i click on a link i get this error "10:41
surgyWill not save configuration.10:41
surgyConfiguration file "/home/surgy/.kde/share/config/kdesurc" not writable.10:41
surgyConfiguration file "/home/surgy/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.10:41
surgyPlease contact your system administrator.10:41
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newuserdevilsadvocate:10:42
Amadeoeihnat: I see10:42
newuserubuntu@ubuntu:~$ e2fsck /dev/hdb110:42
surgysorry i get this error when i click on a link "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."10:42
newusere2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)10:42
newuserWARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause10:42
newuserSEVERE filesystem damage.10:42
newuserDo you really want to continue (y/n)? cancelled!10:42
newusercheck aborted.10:42
devilsadvocatenewuser, did this problem suddenly come up or did it never work?10:42
devilsadvocatenewuser, you have to unmount it first10:42
eihnatsurgy: check file permisions10:42
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newuserdevilsadvocate: how to unmount? this is the first time I install kubuntu 6.1010:43
surgyeihnat: on konq? lol why and how whould they have changed?10:43
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devilsadvocatenewuser, sudo umount /dev/hdb110:43
Amadeobrb10:43
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devilsadvocatenewuser, did the problem start when you added a new hard drive, perhaps?10:43
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newuserdevilsadvocate:10:43
newuserubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck /dev/hdb110:43
newusere2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)10:43
newuser/dev/hdb1: clean, 91034/1310720 files, 539805/2620595 blocks10:43
newuserdevilsadvocate:10:44
konkihow do i add a printer?10:44
surgyeihnat: it also gives an error when i try to change my login settings and on the last reboot it had to do a forced system scan10:44
newuserdevilsadvocate: this is the very first time I install kubuntu on my new pc10:44
cpk1use tune2fs if you want to check your fs for integrity10:44
devilsadvocatenewuser, ok10:44
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eihnatsurgy: u have home on separate partition?10:44
newuserdevilsadvocate: read my output?10:45
devilsadvocatenewuser, yes10:45
newuserdevilsadvocate: so ...10:45
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surgyeihnat: not on purpose but i did delete my ntfs part and changed it to ext310:45
devilsadvocatenewuser, not sure. for one thing, i have a feeling the two map lines in your menu.lst are not needed.10:46
devilsadvocate(for windows)10:46
devilsadvocatenewuser, i presume memtest also does not work?10:46
eihnatnewuser: at least one seems not right to be there. but maybe neither of them.10:46
newuserdevilsadvocate: not needed? mmm ... I can try to delete them, cant I?10:46
newuserdevilsadvocate: nothing works10:47
devilsadvocatenewuser, yes. but just to be safe make a copy10:47
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eihnatsurgy: is ur home partition where ntfs used to be?10:47
newuserdevilsadvocate: how to cp?10:47
surgyeihnat i dont think so let me verify10:47
nihil_sumWhat would be the best directory to put a subversion repository?  I'm not yet fully familiar with the *nix directory structure.10:47
devilsadvocatenewuser, cp menu.lst menu.lst_backup10:48
devilsadvocatenewuser, you will have to mount again10:48
devilsadvocatenewuser, make that sudo cp10:48
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newuserubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb110:48
newusermount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:48
newuserdevilsadvocate:10:48
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devilsadvocatenewuser, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/kubuntu10:49
devilsadvocateyou need to specify the mount point10:49
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newuserdevilsadvocate: oops :P10:49
devilsadvocateeihnat, do linux partitions also need the bootable flag? they dont right?10:50
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newuserdevilsadvocate: so do i have to delete everithing related to xp professional?10:51
devilsadvocatenewuser, no. just the two linees starting with map10:51
eihnatdevilsadvocate: not sure bout that. basicaly dont know answer. lol10:51
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newuserdevilsadvocate: mmm title Microsoft ... root (hd2,0) ?10:51
devilsadvocatenewuser, just the 2 lines10:52
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devilsadvocatemap (hd0) (hd2)10:52
devilsadvocateand the similar one10:52
newuserdevilsadvocate: right .. now I found them :P10:52
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kutkinnaupsss. . i lost my trash can, how to bring it back ?10:53
newuserdevilsadvocate: I modified menu.lst .. now?10:53
eihnat!tras10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tras - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
eihnat!trash10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
eihnat!icon10:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
eihnat!icons10:53
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)10:53
eihnatfinaly. lol10:53
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devilsadvocatenewuser, you could try bootinginto windows. but im afraid your problem with linux is still far from solved.. i still have no idea what is wrong :|10:54
kutkinnaeihnat: i lost it because i follow those tips...10:54
devilsadvocatenewuser, my best bet would be that your hd0, hd1, and h2 are a bit mixed up10:54
eihnatlol10:54
newuserdevilsadvocate: :( im so unlike10:54
kutkinnaand now i miss my trash can :(10:55
devilsadvocatenewuser, by any chance, when you installed kubuntu, what was your boot order like?10:55
eihnatkutkinna: i think u can add it when u right click panel and add applet to panel.10:55
devilsadvocatenewuser, was it set to boot from windows?10:55
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newuserdevilsadvocate: I set boot from hdb1 (linux)10:55
devilsadvocatenewuser, when was this? before or after installation?10:55
kutkinnaeihnat: and how to put it in desktop ?10:56
juano__newuser: grub problems?10:56
newuserdevilsadvocate: when I installed ubuntu the default boot was windows hd (sda1) or dvdrom I dont remember10:56
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devilsadvocatenewuser, i think i know what your problem _might_ be10:56
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newuserdevilsadvocate: ... pls tell :D10:56
devilsadvocatenewuser, you still have it mounted right?10:56
newuserhdb1?10:57
devilsadvocatejuano__, your input will be very meuch appreciated  :P10:57
devilsadvocatenewuser, yes10:57
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newuseryes mounted10:57
newusercd10:57
devilsadvocatejuano__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3379/10:57
devilsadvocatejuano__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3380/10:57
juano__devilsadvocate: ok thanks :-)10:57
devilsadvocatenewuser, cd /10:57
newuserdevilsadvocate: now^10:58
newuser?10:58
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devilsadvocatenewuser, sudo chroot /media/kubuntu /bin/bash10:58
juano__devilsadvocate: what seems to be the problem here ?10:58
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devilsadvocatenewuser, now type 'grub'10:58
newuserdevilsadvocate: now? im root10:58
newuserok10:58
devilsadvocatejuano__, error 17 on booting to ubuntu10:58
juano__devilsadvocate: ubuntu on hdb1 ?10:58
devilsadvocatejuano__, and no boot device found on booting to win10:58
devilsadvocatejuano__, yes10:58
newuserjuano__: yes :D10:59
juano__newuser: you on livecd now?10:59
devilsadvocatejuano__, i think the hdx are messed up10:59
newuserjuano__: y im10:59
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juano__newuser: sudo mkdir /mnt/myrootp10:59
devilsadvocatehes chrooted into his kubuntu10:59
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juano__newuser: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/myrootp10:59
newuserjuano__: im in grub> now10:59
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juano__newuser: mm i was thinking that youll need to reinstall grub11:00
devilsadvocatejuano__, done that just now11:00
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juano__devilsadvocate: he needs to install grub like this:11:00
devilsadvocatejuano__, not done reinstalling grub11:00
newuserdevilsadvocate: juano__i understand nothin .. what i have to do?11:00
juano__newuser: to reinstall grub after mounting your root partition11:00
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newuserjuano__: how to?11:01
devilsadvocatenewuser, type quit11:01
newuserdevilsadvocate: i love u :D11:01
juano__newuser: you have to do: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/myrootp /dev/sda   ---> the sda will vary depending on the HDD you pick for grub11:01
devilsadvocatejuano__, you dont have to be in a chroot to do this?11:01
newuserim in chroot11:01
juano__devilsadvocate: not from live cd11:01
devilsadvocatenewuser, exit then :P11:01
newuserdevilsadvocate: how to?11:02
devilsadvocateonce more11:02
juano__newuser: we talking edgy here right?11:02
newuserjuano__: yes11:02
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devilsadvocatenewuser, just type exit at the prompt11:02
juano__newuser: type quit at grub>11:02
devilsadvocateit will drop you back into the livecd] 11:02
juano__newuser: get into a terminal11:02
newuserjuano__: devilsadvocatehold on ... i started new terminal .. new?11:02
devilsadvocatenewuser, great11:02
juano__newuser: in live cd yes, get to a terminal11:02
newuserdevilsadvocate: ;)11:02
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newuserjuano__: done11:03
devilsadvocate sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/kubuntu /dev/hdb111:03
juano__devilsadvocate: newuser do what devilsadvocate sais there11:03
newuserdo I have to past the output?11:03
newuser!pastebin11:03
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juano__devilsadvocate: he mounting on /mnt/kubuntu ?11:03
devilsadvocatenewuser, if you have errors11:03
devilsadvocatejuano__, /media/kubuntu11:04
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juano__devilsadvocate: good then that shall do11:04
juano__no no11:04
juano__wait11:04
juano__!11:04
juano__newuser: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/kubuntu /dev/hdb11:04
devilsadvocatenewuser, wait11:04
newuserjuano__: devilsadvocatehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3386/ to be sure11:04
newuserjuano__: too late :(11:04
juano__newuser: its hdb not hdb1  Without the 111:04
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newuserjuano__: now? i installed on hdb111:05
juano__newuser: dont worry just do it again without the 111:05
newuserjuano__: ok11:05
devilsadvocatejust do it once again NeoChaosX11:05
devilsadvocateoops again11:05
devilsadvocatesorry NeoChaosX11:05
juano__newuser: should work now11:05
bradleyif i want to get rid of a program --settings and everything, how would i do it?11:05
newuserjuano__: same output I pasted11:05
newuserhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3386/11:05
devilsadvocatenewuser, reboot and hope for the best :P11:06
xenolbradley:  sudo apt-get remove name of the program11:06
xenolwrite that to shell11:06
juano__newuser: cat /mnt/kubuntu/boot/grub/menu.lst11:06
newuserdevilsadvocate: bootin from linux or windows?11:06
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devilsadvocatenewuser, try both11:06
juano__newuser: paste your menu.lst please11:06
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newuserjuano__: cat: /mnt/kubuntu/boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory11:06
devilsadvocatenewuser, replace mnt with media11:07
bradleyxenol: i don't think that will remove the settings.11:07
newuserjuano__: i think hdb i unmounted11:07
juano__newuser: cat /media/kubuntu/boot/grub/menu.lst11:07
juano__newuser: it was media sorry not mnt11:07
newuserjuano__: ok there is an output11:07
newuserI ll paste you11:07
juano__newuser: sure11:07
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juano__newuser: we have to check if the partition setup is fine now11:07
juano__newuser: did you install finally on hdb ?? not hdb1 right ?11:08
bradleyxenol: it might work if i '--purge' but i read in the forums that it might not too.11:08
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newuserjuano__: devilsadvocate both ... hdb1 first hdb then ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3387/11:09
ariarihave a question about saving files off of hda1 to a usb stick, using a liveCD...11:09
ariariLiveCD access to the hda1 is telling me that it cannot mount the drive11:09
ariariany consideration as to why?11:09
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cpk1bradley: check in .kde too and see if it has a folder in there after you uninstall it11:09
ariaricpk1 - less busy here11:09
juano__newuser: ok now reboot, seems fine11:09
reagleBRKLNanyone else having this konq problem? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14067011:09
xenolbradley: IDK11:09
newuserjuano__: doesnt matter I installed both on hdb1 and hdb?11:10
devilsadvocatenewuser, np11:10
newuserok I reboot11:10
juano__newuser: no, plus hdb1 wont work actually cause it uses mbr, which is hdb11:10
cpk1ariari: you have the right partition and are using -t ntfs?11:10
newusercu later :)11:10
juano__newuser: good luck!11:10
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newusertnx11:11
juano__devilsadvocate: hope i was of some help11:11
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devilsadvocatejuano__, definitely11:11
ariaricpk1 - yes... it is actually the entire drive...11:11
devilsadvocatei would have had him manually reconfigure grub :P11:11
juano__devilsadvocate: i had this issue some days ago11:11
ariariwhat entry to I need to place in my fstab?11:12
cpk1ariari: you dont need an entry in fstab to mount things11:12
devilsadvocateive been noticing a lot of people with mulitple hard drives having grub-related issues11:12
ariaricreate a sub directory in /dev and then set up a mount point to it?11:12
juano__cpk1: what you mounting ?11:12
ariaricpk - great. makes it easier11:12
ariarijuano - he is speaking to me11:12
ariari:-)11:12
devilsadvocateariari, better make a directory somewhere else ...11:12
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juano__cpk1: sorry :P:P hehe i meant ariari11:13
juano__ariari: what you mounting ?11:13
cpk1ariari: you need to make a folder anywhere (ubuntu uses /media/somemountpoint) and then just do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/somefolderyoumade11:13
cpk1you need root to make dirs in /media11:13
juano__ariari: i recommend ntfs-3g for read write11:14
ariaricpk1 - I will try.. b right back11:14
juano__ariari: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g11:14
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ariarihad old distro here... ran big update.. will retry apt-get, too11:14
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cpk1juano__: far as I understand he just needs read to be able toback up to usb11:16
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ariarihow do I flush memory on liveCD? I ran an update and it filled the ram up..oops11:16
crazy_penguingood night/noapte buna11:17
juano__cpk1: sorry :-), i dont know what he was mounting for11:17
devilsadvocateariari, update on the ;ive cd? :O11:17
juano__cpk1: i though he needed to write to the partition to11:17
devilsadvocateariari, sud apt-get clean11:17
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ariaridevils - ok, ran that under su11:18
ariarigoing to try and run suggestion11:18
ariariariari: you need to make a folder anywhere (ubuntu uses /media/somemountpoint) and then just do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/somefolderyoumade11:18
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scooterhello11:19
vixpoxihi11:19
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scootercan u please refresh my memory on the codes to install .exe files in ubuntu11:20
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scooterim trying to put the myspace im onto my pc and want to see if it will work11:20
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vixpoxiso you're trying to install myspace IM on kubuntu?11:20
scooteron ubuntu11:21
vixpoxiyou probably can just emulate it through WINE or osmething11:21
vixpoxii would try emulating it through WINE11:21
scooteryes but i have gotten really stupid and forgot how to run WINE11:21
vixpoxiwell do you have it installed?11:21
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, MYSPACE im? did you try gaim?11:21
vixpoxii have gaim11:21
ariariworks!!  thanks!!!!11:21
ariarithanks!11:21
cpk1ariari: that is assuming the devpoint for the ntfs drive is /dev/hda111:21
ariari:-)11:21
cpk1ariari: great11:21
scooterits been a long time since i have used it11:21
newuserjuano__: devilsadvocate doesnt work ... I boot from hdb1 ... if i try to start linux i have error 17 ... if I try to start windowd, system reboots ... and I discovered grub is installed on hda too (no os on that hd, data only)11:21
ariarihda211:21
ariaribut it works11:21
vixpoxihas anyone updated to KDE 3.5.6?11:22
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cpk1ariari: the usb should hopefully automount11:22
ariariwhy is it so protective? anyway, I am glad of it, in retrospect11:22
devilsadvocatenewuser, i guess we do this the hard way11:22
ariariit automounts... 8 gig transcend drive V10 for $9511:22
vixpoxi?11:22
newuserdevilsadvocate: so im destined to not use kubuntu 6.10?11:22
vixpoxiuh11:23
juano__newuser: check in BIOS if your booting from HDB11:23
vixpoxiso has anyone updated to the newest KDE?11:23
juano__newuser: i have a feeling your booting from HDA11:23
AmadeoThe fonts on google.com look very strange and hard to read for me...I've installed my Windows fonts and enabled them in Firefox, but they still look strange...can anyone tell me why and/or how to fix that?11:23
devilsadvocatejuano__, grub is loading11:23
juano__newuser: if you want , do the same thing we did today instead of /dev/hdb install it on /dev/hda11:24
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juano__newuser: grub is loading?11:24
newuserjuano__: i chage boot manually .. i tryed to boot from all my hd ... one starts windows ... one starts linux but doesnt work ... one starts grub but it tells error 15 but on that hd there is only data no os11:24
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juano__newuser: if your linux partition is hdb1 then it should work11:25
juano__root (hd1,0)11:25
newuserjuano__: sure11:25
newuseri pasted my fdisk -l11:25
juano__newuser: try again11:25
newuserjuano__: try again to reboot and to fail?11:25
juano__newuser: give the URL11:25
juano__newuser: no11:25
juano__newuser: to reinstall grub11:25
cpk1ariari: its not protective its just that linux has trouble writing to ntfs drives (chance to lose data), and the live cd i dont think mounts any drives for you, also you need fstab to automount drives11:26
esaymok I just got a big problem11:26
juano__newuser: lets go slowly11:26
newuserjuano__: i ll past u again my fdisk -l11:26
juano__newuser: mount your root partition first11:26
newuser!pastebin11:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:26
esaymI accedently deleted a folder while in konqueror file manager11:26
newuserjuano__: hold on11:26
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esaymI quickly clicked cancel but there are now some files missing and they are not in the trash!11:26
esaymcrap crap11:27
vixpoxiwell since no one is answering in the other hcannel11:27
esaym20gb of files.....11:27
vixpoxihas anyone here tried xubuntu?11:27
vixpoxior any of the other ubuntu builds11:27
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devilsadvocatevixpoxi, i have11:28
newuserjuano__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3388/11:28
Bxnpguy's people are complaining about hearing themselfe back, any other people have that problem11:28
esaymno body has any idea?11:28
Bxnpis that a linux thing11:28
devilsadvocatenewuser, lets do this slowly, one step at a time11:28
Bxnpi mean with skype11:28
devilsadvocatenewuser, to start with. lets mount hdb111:29
newuserdevilsadvocate: im here to do that :D11:29
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andriijashow unstable is feisty herd?11:29
newuserdevilsadvocate: tells me command pls :(11:29
juano__newuser: ok lets do this11:29
juano__newuser: sudo mkdir /mnt/myhdd11:29
juano__newuser: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/myhdd11:29
newuserjuano__: i ll follow u ok?11:29
jhutchinsBxnp: What do you mean?11:29
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ariariwhen I am trying to copy via command line from the hda2 to the usb stick, it is telling me cp: omitting directory...  on every cp attempt. The owner ubuntu has rwx... ?11:29
jhutchinsAh, with skype.11:29
josh_k11:29
josh_wine is being very stupid11:29
josh_everything i try to use on it doesnt work11:29
vixpoxiwell, i've got a free 40 gig harddrive and i'm debating what i want to put on it11:30
vixpoxijosh_: what are you trying to get to work?11:30
Bxnpyes with skype people hear themselfe back even when i use earphones11:30
jhutchinsBxnp: That's a pretty common problem for duplex audio (both ways).11:30
josh_k before i installed guild wars on it11:30
juano__newuser: sure, give it a try, do those commands first11:30
josh_very straight forward11:30
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, no point doing xubuntu. you can alway apt-get xfce11:30
juano__newuser: did you do them ?11:30
ariaricpk1  when I am trying to copy via command line from the hda2 to the usb stick, it is telling me cp: omitting directory...  on every cp attempt. The owner ubuntu has rwx... ?11:30
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Bxnpcan i turn off the duplex thing11:30
josh_i try doing it now and it screws everything up when i try running it11:30
jhutchinsBxnp: Not a kubuntu problem, could be a skype problem, could even be their service.11:30
AmadeoYeah, speaking of wine...I can no longer rename keys in regedit11:30
newuserjuano__: yes I did11:30
devilsadvocatenewuser, did you mount?11:30
jhutchinsBxnp: That would mean some sort of push-to-talk, no.11:30
vixpoxijosh_, did you look at winehq.com and the appDB, and made sure it works under your distro?11:31
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josh_well11:31
josh_same with photoshop cs11:31
josh_and bearshare11:31
juano__newuser: ls /mnt/myhdd/boot/grub , id there an output ?11:31
josh_and steam11:31
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, is there any difference between ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu?11:31
vixpoxiwell josh_, i have steam working11:31
newuserjuano__: output11:31
vixpoxiso i might beable to help you with that11:31
juano__newuser: good11:31
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, only in the desktop environment11:31
cpk1ariari: you need to use -R11:31
josh_how did u get it working11:31
vixpoxiwhat distro are you using11:31
devilsadvocatenewuser, now chroot to your hdd.. sudo chroot /mnt/myhdd/grub11:31
newuserjuano__: do u need it?11:32
juano__newuser: ok, do a ls /mnt/myhdd/home11:32
devilsadvocatenewuser, now chroot to your hdd.. sudo chroot /mnt/myhdd/grub /bin/bash11:32
juano__devilsadvocate: no no11:32
josh_i'm using dapper11:32
devilsadvocatenewuser, follow juano__ first11:32
juano__devilsadvocate: no chroot11:32
josh_no wait11:32
josh_edgy11:32
juano__newuser: no chroot11:32
vixpoxijosh_, kubuntu 6.10 edgy?11:32
josh_yeah11:32
newuserjuano__: ill follow only u :)11:32
newuserjuano__: devilsadvocate I cant follow both11:32
devilsadvocatenewuser, follow juano__11:33
juano__newuser: ok, now try an ls /mnt/myhdd/home and see if your username is there11:33
newuserjuano__: ls /mnt/myhdd/home no output11:33
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millersgames11:33
vixpoxihmm11:34
juano__newuser: ls -a /mnt/myhdd/ are there you / files u used too use ?11:34
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vixpoxijosh_, what version of wine do you have11:34
josh_the newest one11:34
vixpoxi9.30?11:34
millershi i em new :)11:34
juano__newuser: we have to be sure we are on the right HDD11:34
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Amadeo0.9.30 - regedit doesn't work for me in that version (it loads, but you can't really do anything with keys)11:34
millerscan any tell where i can downlaod games for kubuntu11:34
millers?11:34
vixpoxijosh_, 0.9.3011:34
newuserjuano__: i didnt understant what u said11:34
josh_how do i check11:35
millerscan any tell where i can downlaod games for kubuntu11:35
josh_i'm pretty sure i have the newest one11:35
ariarithank you for your help cpk1 and devils11:35
ariariwave11:35
vixpoximake sure you do11:35
ariaribye11:35
juano__newuser: sudo cd /mnt/myhdd11:35
newuserls /mnt/myhdd/home11:35
millerscan any tell where i can downlaod games for kubuntu11:35
millerscan any tell where i can downlaod games for kubuntu11:35
millerscan any tell where i can downlaod games for kubuntu11:35
vixpoxii had steam working in 0.9.29 i think, but i just got my OS working again today11:35
newuserjuano__: im in11:35
juano__newuser: sudo cd /home11:35
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jhutchinsmillers: Try google, and don't be obnoxious.11:35
josh_how do i check what version i have11:35
juano__newuser: sudo ls11:35
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vixpoxijosh_, wine --version in konsole11:36
millersjhutchins:  oke11:36
devilsadvocatejuano__, dont cd /home11:36
josh_9.2911:36
josh_newest one11:36
newuserjuano__: ubuntu@ubuntu:/home$ sudo ls11:36
newuserubunt11:36
vixpoxinu uh11:36
vixpoxinewest is 9.3011:36
josh_how do i update11:36
vixpoxiupdate your wine11:36
juano__newuser: is that your username u used ?11:36
jhutchinsmillers: Tip: look for linux games, not just kubuntu.11:36
vixpoxiwell11:36
vixpoxii use automatix11:36
josh_could i do it through apt11:36
vixpoximost likely11:36
newuserjuano__: no I set ciro11:36
devilsadvocatejuano__, /home is on the livecd11:37
juano__newuser: devilsadvocate this is the /home of the HDD11:37
josh_how do u update it in automatix11:37
vixpoxido you have automatix211:37
juano__newuser: not the livecd11:37
devilsadvocatejuano__, not if you did not chroot11:37
newuserjuano__: i dont know11:37
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juano__devilsadvocate: no chroot here11:37
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juano__newuser: nevermind11:38
juano__newuser: lets keep going, im sure its the right partition11:38
newuserok now?11:38
devilsadvocatejuano__, then ls /mnt/myhdd/home11:38
juano__newuser: do this to check , run gksudo gparted11:38
newuserin /home?11:38
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juano__newuser: run that and tell me which is your linux root partition11:38
vixpoxihas anyone updated to KDE 3.5.611:39
newuserjuano__: in /home i have to do ksudo gparted?11:39
juano__newuser: no11:39
esaymok I fixed it huys11:39
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esaymguys*11:39
juano__newuser: alt + F2 , type gksudo gparted , ENTER11:39
newuserjuano__: and where?11:39
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, i have11:39
juano__newuser: youll see your partitions there, tell me which is your linux partition11:39
millersjhutchins: can jou help me?11:39
esaymthe files were in the trash for the directtory (.trash) but they just were not shown in the trash can for some reason11:40
esaymman I got luckly11:40
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, you need to add a repo from kubuntu.org11:40
newuserjuano__: gksudo gparted could not run the specified command11:40
esaymloosing 20gb of files almost...no thank you11:40
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josh_i screwed windows today11:40
juano__newuser: go to system ---> adminitration ---> gnome partitioner11:40
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, which one?11:40
josh_so i'm in linux, getting all my games to work11:40
juano__newuser: through GUI11:40
newuserjuano__: im under kubuntu11:41
josh_till i can buy new motherboard, cpu, and ram11:41
josh_rather than installing windows, getting parts, then installig again11:41
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, i dont remember :| try google for kubuntu 3.5.611:41
vixpoxijosh_, make sure to look at the appDB at winehq.com to make sure your game will work.  they will give you instructions11:41
josh_so for teh next month i'm in linux lol11:41
nagyvhello! I just realized that one can get to my computer without a root password, simply rebooting in recovery mode. I would be surprised if this would be normal!?11:41
josh_well its pretty straight forward11:41
josh_go into the cd and run setup.exe with wine11:41
juano__newuser: ok then, open a kubuntu partitioner11:42
newuserjuano__: i found qparted11:42
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, what distro of linux are you running?  as far as i can tell, KDE 3.5.6 isn't compiled for dapper11:42
newuserjuano__: now?11:42
josh_ok i'm in winecfg, should i put vertex shader support to hardware or emulated11:42
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, edgy11:42
juano__newuser: newuser yes open it11:42
newuserjuano__: i did but now what i have to do?11:43
juano__newuser: check where your linux partition is opened?11:43
juano__check whats your linux partition number there11:43
sFEARswill a windows application that relies on directx & media player runtimes work properly?11:43
sFEARsin wine that is11:43
juano__newuser: check if its /dev/hdb111:43
juano__newuser: or what11:43
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, would you recommend upgrading from 6.06 Dapper to Edgy?11:43
juano__newuser: can you identify your linux partition from there?11:44
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, not if you are running an essential server11:44
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juano__newuser: what size is your linux partition ?11:44
newuserjuano__: my linux partition are on hdb: hdb1 / fs ext3 (but I dont know 2.40 GB are used) hdb3for data fs et3 hdb2for swap fs linux-swap11:44
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, i'm just running kubuntu on my PC for my personal use, would it be worth the hassle to upgrade to edgy?11:44
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, sometimes it takea an hour or 2 to resolve the dependancies11:44
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, definitely11:45
juano__newuser: ok its hdb111:45
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newuserjuano__: why 2.50GB ar used?11:45
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, i originally got into kubuntu from getting a free CD with Kubuntu 5.10 Breezy and just edited my sources.list to upgrade to 6.06 Dapper, is it essentially the same to go from Dapper>Edgy?11:45
khelbenjhhj11:45
juano__newuser: cause you have hdb3 for data right ?11:45
newuserjuano__: yrs but it is empty11:46
devilsadvocatevixpoxi, yes. and now it works more often :)11:46
juano__hdb1 is your root partition , cause it hais the "/"11:46
vixpoxidevilsadvocate, i did so by changing "breezy" to "dapper", so would i just change "dapper" to "edgy"?11:46
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juano__newuser: which is the biggest partition ?11:46
devilsadvocateyes vixpoxi11:46
vixpoxialright thankyou11:46
newuserjuano__: hdb1 is / not why it tells me so but why I remember I did a partition / 10 GB11:47
newuserjuano__: the biggest partition is hdb3 27 gb for data11:47
newuserhdb1 is 10 gb11:47
newuserhdb2 512 mb11:47
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juano__newuser: newuser well root seems hdb1 , but hdb3 seems your real partition11:48
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newuserjuano__: so?11:48
cpk1hdb3 is probably just /home11:49
juano__newuser: do this then ls -a /mnt/myhdd/boot/grub11:49
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juano__newuser: if you get a menu.lst then we know its it11:49
juano__newuser: and some more stuff11:49
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newuserjuano__: output11:49
juano__newuser: ok , if you get that do this:11:49
newuserdo u need it?11:50
juano__newuser: no11:50
juano__newuser: now :11:50
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andrew_ishelp11:50
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andrew_ishow do i switch from gnome to kde without reinstalling ubuntu11:51
andrew_is?11:51
vixpoxithat's a good question11:51
vixpoxii've always wanted to try gnome11:51
dan___hola11:51
juano__newuser: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/myhdd /dev/hda  -----> READ THIS 1st, if you want to install grub to hda put hda, if hdb, then put hdb , no numbers at the end11:51
vixpoxii use KDE, so i don't know how to switch between the two11:51
ravermeisterhello, i have got a problem11:51
vixpoxi?11:51
ravermeisteri installed kde 3.5.511:51
vixpoxihooray11:51
newuserjuano__: where do I have to install hda or hdb?11:52
ravermeisterand now when i try to login, nothing happens11:52
newuserI think hdb no?11:52
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ravermeisteri have to choices11:52
ravermeisteronce i noticed just now11:52
juano__newuser: install hdb yes11:52
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ravermeisterwhen i wait for about 5 minutes, the xserver restarts by himself11:52
andrew_iswell any ideas on going from gnome to kde?11:52
frojnd!samba11:52
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:52
juano__newuser: paste output11:52
ravermeisterand the login screen reurns to appear11:52
vixpoxiandrew, do you have synaptic package manager?11:52
vixpoxiravermeister, how did you install KDE 3.5.5?11:53
ravermeisteror i restart x by type strg+alt+<-11:53
ravermeistervia synaptic11:53
newuser!pastebon11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:53
andrew_isis that the add remove program thingy?11:53
newuser!pastebin11:53
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juano__newuser: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/myhdd /dev/hdb   would be your command11:53
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newuserhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3389/ juano__11:53
ravermeisterthen the login success11:53
will5000anyone around11:54
ravermeisteri dont know what to do i tested the gdm with the same thing too11:54
juano__newuser: ok, now paste /mnt/myhdd/boot/grub/menu.lst11:54
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ravermeisteri backed my old /etc/kde3/kdm and put it in after the backup again11:54
ravermeisteri deletet the kdmrc11:54
newuserjuano__: what is the command to read that file?11:55
ravermeisterdont know what to do know and no idea how to find out whats the reason :(11:55
juano__newuser: kdesu kate /mnt/myhdd/boot/grub/menu.lst11:55
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newuserhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3390/ juano__ it seems nothing changed11:56
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ravermeisterplease help me11:57
ravermeistermay it work to compile kde by my own?11:57
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vixpoxii used automatix2 to get kde 3.5.511:58
dopehigh five11:58
juano__newuser: ok, reboot and from BIOS, you need to boot into HDD1  , hard disk number 1, that is if you have a HDD0 a hard disk number 011:58
vixpoxii'm currently upgrading to edgy11:58
vixpoxiso i can install 3.5.611:58
juano__newuser: youll have to boot from your second hard disk11:58
ravermeisteroh11:58
juano__newuser: you have to set that up in the BIOS11:58
ravermeisteri had edgy before11:58
ravermeisterbut i had problems with vmware-server11:58
newuserjuano__: ok Ill try11:58
newuserc2 later11:58
ravermeisterand i heared about the long time support for dapper11:58
ravermeisterso i choose to keep it11:58
juano__newuser: ok good luck, come back if it goes wrong11:58
ravermeisterbut this problem is very annoying11:59
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Jucatolong time support doesn't mean getting the latest/newest versions11:59
ravermeisterbut the worst thing is not to know how to fix it11:59
ravermeisterbut stable ones or not?11:59
ravermeisterthe VERY newest i dont need, but as near as ;)11:59
Jucato3.5.5 is as near as... :)12:00
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MinatakuHeh, at least you're not dealing with Solaris12:00
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Minatakuc0t0d1s2 == hdb312:00
MinatakuI think12:00
Minatakulol12:00
ravermeisteryeah thats enaugh for me, if it would work fine12:00
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ravermeisterbut kdm makes trouble12:00
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MinatakuOr the full path that Solaris gives to the main HDD (on my SPARCstation LX)... /iommu@0,10000000/sbus@0,10001000/espdma@4,8400000/esp@4,8800000/sd@3,0 (sd3)12:02
MinatakuSince the /devices directory is populated by the device path via the OpenBoot PROM12:03
MinatakuBut that's just me showing off a bit >.>12:03
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vixpoxiwelll12:04
vixpoxii was debating if i wanted to go up to edgy12:04
vixpoxijust for KDe 3.5.612:04
vixpoxiand i decided why not12:04
MinatakuLuckily food time spares you all from my scary SPARC dealings12:04
MinatakuXD12:04
MinatakuSorry X3 *vanishes to eat*12:04
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ravermeisteryou think i can compile kde?12:04
ravermeisteris there a possibility that this could work?12:05
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glundbergdoes anyone know how to get rid of the tabs in konqueror?12:07
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Jucatoglundberg: what do you mean?12:09
glundbergin konqueror, there are always tabs at the top.  I don't like it12:09
glundbergi looked in konquerorrc, but nothing useful there12:10
Jucatoyou can set Konqueror to open new windows instead of tabs. Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior12:10
glundberg(as filemanager) konqueror has tabs when I first open the window12:11
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Jucatoglundberg: in web behavior, make sure that the "Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open" option is enabled12:12
flaccidbloody great. my boss has an absolute path in his script12:13
glundbergaaah.  thank you very much12:13
glundbergi'm a recent slackware convert and i'm not used to some of this12:14
flaccid why would you go from slackware to kubuntu12:15
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lenscape!k3b12:15
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:15
Jucatoease of use? choice?12:15
flaccidhehe lets wait for his response12:16
glundbergi'm thinking...12:16
flaccidur prolly right i guess yeah.?12:16
Jucatolol12:16
glundbergslackware is very stable, and its harder to install bleeding edge things like xgl12:16
glundbergi would say ease of use though12:17
Jucato:)12:17
glundbergthe synaptic package manager is pretty neat12:17

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