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alefterishi12:37
troy_shello alefteris12:37
alefterisis this the command to check out the feisty gdm theme bzr checkout http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/+branch/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu12:38
alefteriswhen i issue the command it just creates an ubuntu folder and then waits..12:41
alefterisbzr: ERROR: Connection error: Error retrieving http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu/.bzr/repository/knits/56/session1.png-20061002182018-mm10hee25yypwplv-17.knit: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')> <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')>12:41
alefterisi get this12:41
alefterisalso, does the source include the svg files?12:42
troy_shrm12:43
troy_sdo you have the proper address first (looks good)12:44
troy_sgive it a few minutes alefteris then try it again12:44
troy_shave you adjusted python on your system at all?12:44
alefterisno12:44
troy_sthat should work then12:44
troy_sso try it again12:44
troy_serm12:45
troy_smaybe... i think your source is off.12:45
troy_shold on.12:45
alefterisshould be https or http?12:45
troy_shttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu12:46
troy_sdid you rread the tutorial on how to get the proper url?12:46
troy_sFirst, go to www.launchpad.net/products and search for the product12:46
troy_sonce you have the product, click the link12:46
troy_sclick the "CODE" link from there in the left panel12:46
troy_sfrom the list of branches that appear12:47
troy_sselect ONE12:47
troy_s(with feisty-gdm-themes there is only one so don't worry)12:47
alefteristhats what i did12:47
troy_sthen look12:47
troy_sat the 'hosted on launchpad' link12:47
troy_sdirectly under the caption at the top12:47
troy_sthat will give you the official link12:47
troy_sin this case12:47
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troy_shttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu12:47
troy_sso all you need to do is issue a12:47
troy_sbzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu12:47
troy_sand you will pull the head branch12:48
troy_soki?12:48
troy_salefteris: ?12:49
troy_sand no, it should... but i don't believe it includes the bloody sources to the svg12:51
troy_si sent a mail to who, but i don't know if it got around to being included.12:52
alefteristroy_s, im still getting this error12:52
alefterisbzr: ERROR: Connection error: Error retrieving http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu/.bzr/branch-format: <urlopen error (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')> <urlopen error (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')>12:52
troy_sso you aren't able to get hte ip12:53
troy_sthat would probably be a temporary errro12:53
troy_seither your dns is flailing right now12:53
troy_sor the dns that hosts the bazaar.launchpad.net name is flailing.12:53
alefterismust be mine then :(12:53
troy_sappears so12:53
troy_si can ping it just fine12:53
alefterisso the svg is incuded?12:53
troy_stry pinging it12:53
troy_si don't believe so.12:54
troy_swhich is completely unfortunate.12:54
alefterisits wird, i can ping  bazaar.launchpad.net12:55
troy_sand you did the exact12:56
troy_sbzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu12:56
troy_s?12:56
troy_sperhaps your python got borked?12:56
troy_stry re-installing your python package.12:57
alefterisok thanks12:58
troy_sno work?12:58
troy_sor workie?12:58
alefterismust be something wronk with my networking..12:59
troy_svery strange error though12:59
alefteristhanks for the help Trae12:59
troy_si know that it _could_ be python12:59
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lizardking__troy_s: I'm in01:02
troy_sgreets lizardking__01:02
alefterisok i tryed the same link in firefox and a get an emptry apache file directory page01:02
troy_salefteris: i would start with re-installing python01:02
troy_sjust a hunch01:02
troy_sbut it sounds like your python _may_ have gotten borked01:03
alefterisok01:03
lizardking__alefteris: can U pass me the launchpad link that does not work?01:04
troy_sbzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/feisty-gdm-themes/ubuntu01:04
troy_salefteris is trying to do that.01:05
lizardking__thnx01:05
troy_sbut getting a weird error01:05
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lizardking__i'm here Fetch phase 1/401:06
lizardking__finished. it works for me01:07
troy_slizardking__: i think it is alefteris's python or something01:10
lizardking__alefteris: what's yours bzr --version command ?01:10
lizardking__alefteris: mine is01:10
lizardking__Sei lizardking in ~/Desktop >bzr --version01:11
lizardking__Bazaar (bzr) 0.14.001:11
lizardking__Using python interpreter: /usr/bin/python2.401:11
lizardking__Using python standard library: /usr/lib/python2.401:11
lizardking__Using bzrlib: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib01:11
alefterisBazaar (bzr) 0.11.001:11
alefterisUsing python interpreter: /usr/bin/python01:11
alefterisUsing python standard library: /usr/lib/python2.401:11
alefterisUsing bzrlib: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib01:11
troy_serm your bzr looks dated01:12
troy_salef01:12
lizardking__alefteris: try to update bzr01:12
troy_syour bzr is way old :)01:12
lizardking__wait..01:12
alefterisits the edgy version01:13
troy_show strange01:13
troy_si recalled the .1401:13
lizardking__alefteris: follow this sources.list istructions http://bazaar-vcs.org/DistroDownloads01:13
troy_slet me try a pull01:13
lizardking__alefteris: ;)01:13
troy_smine appears to have pulled fine01:16
troy_si am pretty sure it is alefteris's python01:16
troy_ssomething is borked01:16
lizardking__troy_s: Do you know some news about artwork package parser?01:19
alefterisok its working :)01:26
lizardking__alefteris: ;)01:26
lizardking__i'm going to sleep. tomorrow university :(01:34
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klepasanyone awake?07:10
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BHSPitMonkeynope07:20
klepashey, how's it going :)07:23
klepasmoin darkmatter07:23
darkmatterhey... not bad.. just woke from a lil shuteye07:24
darkmatterhow are y'all doin today?07:24
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klepasah, pretty good07:28
klepasat work atm :)07:28
darkmatterahhh07:32
darkmatterI see :)07:32
klepasdarkmatter: do you use the tango icons from cvs or a pre-packaged set?07:32
darkmattertango and gnome from cvs/svn, as well as suse's industrial (the new version... tangoed)07:34
klepasmhh i haven't seen those07:34
klepaswhere can i best get my hands on 'em, preferably from svn/cvs07:34
darkmatterindustrial??? I just ripped them from an rpm... one sec.. I'll find the beasty07:35
klepascheers :)07:37
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nysosymhi all :)05:16
nysosymwhat do u think about many more black in the ubuntu default style?05:17
kwwiinysosym: do you mean making things much darker?05:20
nysosymkwwii: yes, splash, gdm, wallpapers05:20
kwwiinot sure about the splash or the gdm but it might be neat on the wallpaper05:22
nysosymthere is a quick and dirty mockup, i think the contrast of orange and black/grew looks very professionell05:23
nysosymhttp://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotoxnestqp9.png05:23
nysosymAnd for wallpapers, i thought on some nice landscapes in black and white05:26
nysosymOr some pictures of architecture05:26
kwwiias the colors for the logo are warm, earth tones, I am not soo sure about using that amount of blue05:27
nysosymblue?05:27
kwwiiwell, that grey looks very blue-ish to me05:28
nysosymhmm maybe a bad configured screen? :D05:28
kwwiinope, brand new laptop05:29
nysosymkwwii: hmm sure, but onliy is use the default color palette of black and grey in gimp05:30
nysosymand here are some types of wallpapers05:33
nysosymhttp://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpapertestky6.jpg05:33
kwwiithe biggest problem with using pics as a default is that they are usually too complicated, they draw the eye too much05:35
kwwiiI do like the idea of making a darker look, but I think it should still have a version in dark, warm colors05:36
nysosymhmm yes, maybe we should use, some with a low contrast05:36
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nysosymsome smooth landscapes05:36
nysosymhi PingunZ05:36
PingunZhey nysosym05:36
nysosymPingunZ: black or blue?05:37
nysosymhttp://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotoxnestqp9.png05:37
nysosymis it me, or comes the feisty artwork very very slow forward?05:41
nysosymbtw. has anyone see fschoep in the last time?05:46
PingunZnah05:46
PingunZnysosym, pm about that gdm ?05:47
nysosymPingunZ: yes05:47
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alefterisanyone here that can help me with the ubuntu moinmoin theme?06:41
PingunZwhat's the problem ?06:45
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PingunZhey lizardking06:47
lizardking_Hi06:47
lizardking_come back from University06:47
lizardking_;)06:47
lizardking_uff strong day!06:47
lizardking_i hate monday!06:48
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PingunZ:)06:48
lizardking_and late I will going to basketball training...damn, so full life :D06:52
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alefterisPingunZ, i have a problem with some localised text in the theme py file, it doesnt apear correctly in the browser07:05
PingunZhmm07:05
alefteristhe file is saved as utf8, other localised text appears correctry in the wiki..07:06
PingunZI have to go, I hope someone can help you07:06
alefterisits just the text from the theme that doesnt07:06
alefterisok07:06
PingunZtry to google it ?07:06
PingunZlater07:06
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lizardking_Somone knows what python package install to run this script? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/+branch/example-look/dev07:52
lizardking_Sei lizardking in ~/Desktop/dev >python setup.py07:53
lizardking_Traceback (most recent call last):07:53
lizardking_  File "setup.py", line 2, in ?07:53
lizardking_    from DistUtilsExtra.distutils_extra import build_extra, build_l10n07:53
lizardking_ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.distutils_extra07:53
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alefterisis it possible to add a glowing effect in letters with inkscape? just like the text in the ubuntu website logo..08:14
alefterisor i have to go to gimp to make something like that08:14
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troy_sgreets all08:41
alefterishi troy_s08:43
troy_si wonder if lizardking got his py issues sorted08:44
troy_syou resolved your bzr issues correct alefteris ?08:44
alefteristroy_s, yes thank you08:45
alefterisit was a dns problem after all08:45
troy_slooked odd.08:45
troy_swhat were you working on?08:45
alefteristroy_s, a logo for the local community team08:47
alefterisbut i funt the svg from the wiki artwork/input staff08:48
alefterisnow im having truble creating a glow around the letters..08:49
alefteris:)08:49
troy_sErm... where is the source SVG?08:49
troy_sis it in the package now?08:49
troy_sa glow is quite simple...08:50
troy_sExpand the spline in inkscape08:50
troy_screate the solid of your colour08:50
alefterisim trying to do it with neon glow plugin08:50
troy_sErk no08:50
troy_sdo you just want a white glow?08:50
troy_si would do it in inkscape as it is deadly simple if you have the source svg08:50
troy_swhere did you snag the source svg from?08:50
alefterisone like the ubuntu website logo08:50
troy_sit SHOULD be included in the package.08:50
troy_sTry this:08:50
troy_s 1) Locate the outline of the 'ubuntu' text08:51
troy_s 2) Duplicate it to a layer lower08:51
alefterisi found the svg here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Logo08:51
troy_s 3) use the outset command to expand it.08:51
troy_s 4) solid white fill, adjust blur.  Done.08:52
troy_sRelatively simplistic, but it will get the job done.08:54
troy_sTo polish it, try changing the fill gradient stops08:54
alefteristroy_s, thanks troy_s i'm gona try it now08:57
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alefteristroy_s, how should i use the gradients to get the glow effect..09:50
troy_swell theoretically... you get a glow without them.09:51
troy_sjust expand using outset -- and blur09:51
alefterisyeao, put looks solid, not like rays09:51
troy_suh...09:51
troy_ssend me your png.09:51
troy_sa png sample09:51
alefterisjust a sec09:52
alefteristroy_s, http://imagebin.org/707409:53
troy_sso make it bigger09:55
troy_sand blur it more09:55
troy_sif you want a more subtle glow09:55
alefterisblur you mean to adust transpanency right?09:57
alefterisor someting else?09:57
troy_sno10:01
troy_sblur10:02
troy_ssorry alefteris i was in another window10:02
troy_sin inkscape, open up the stroke / fill dialog10:02
troy_sand slide the blur slider10:02
troy_s(not too far obviously ;) )10:02
troy_salefteris: what version of inkscape are you running?10:03
alefteris0.4410:03
troy_sso open up the stroke / fill and slide blur10:03
alefterisits called master opacity the slider you are talking about right?10:03
troy_sno10:03
troy_sthe one above it10:04
troy_sif you don't have it10:04
troy_scompile inkscape yourself.10:04
troy_sor get a newer version10:04
troy_sshould be directly above the 'master opacity' slider.10:04
alefterisabove it is the Alpha (opacity) spiner10:05
troy_shold on...10:06
troy_salefteris: http://imagebin.org/707610:09
troy_sdoes your stroke / fill dialog look like that?10:09
alefterisi dont have this slider10:10
troy_sok so you need a newer version of inkscape10:10
alefterislook like i have an old version of inkscape then10:10
troy_shttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HowToCompileInkscape10:10
troy_shopefully that will help you10:11
troy_syou shouldn't have any problems after that... :)10:11
alefteristhanks Trae10:11
alefteristhanks troy_s10:11
alefteris:)10:11
troy_stroy_s -- Trae is someone else :)10:11
troy_slol10:11
troy_sdamn tab10:11
alefterisyeah10:11
troy_sdidn't know hitting tab twice cycles through tem10:12
troy_sthe names ...10:12
troy_snifty.10:12
troy_syou can't use inkscape without blur :)10:12
troy_sit probably one of the most important tools...  you can get photorealistic artwork now.10:13
troy_s(not that photorealistic is really artwork anyways :P )10:13
alefterisso troy_s, with the previous version you cant blur or there is no easy to access ui?10:14
troy_sno blur10:14
kwwiiif only the blur worked a bit faster in inkscape10:14
alefterisoh10:14
troy_skwwii it is lightening fast on mine.10:15
troy_sbut i run the svn and a 64 bit10:15
troy_snative10:15
troy_si don't know if that has much to do with it.10:15
troy_salefteris: it had some buggy issues early, now it is pretty flawless regarding rendering.10:15
kwwiiI run svn (daily build) on my brand-spanking new core-due thinkpad, and the refresh is still not the greatest10:15
kwwiibut the effect is something you really cannot easily do wihtout10:16
troy_skwwii maybe the 64bit makes a diff... hard to say.  how is that new lappy?10:16
troy_skwwii -- they also added that rendering feature for speed which is nice -- change the blur preview quality.10:16
kwwiiit is the first laptop/computer that I have owned in 9 years which "works well" on linux10:17
kwwiieverthing works, out of the box10:17
troy_syou happy with it?10:17
kwwiitotally10:17
kwwiiof course, I still have my big powerbook and a couple of other macs10:18
kwwiiit is somewhat nicer to draw on a bigger screen10:18
kwwiiI bought the X60s10:19
kwwiicompiz is still blowing my mind10:19
troy_syou seen metisse yet?10:19
troy_si have a couple of 22" widescreens10:20
kwwiinope, what's that?10:20
troy_si still dislike lappies...10:20
troy_soh lord...10:20
troy_swait till you see this10:20
kwwiilol10:20
kwwiiwell, this computer is the reason that people buy laptops10:20
troy_shttp://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/10:20
troy_s?10:20
troy_sthat good eh?10:20
troy_smake sure you view the videos10:20
kwwiiyepp, and it took me years of buying the wrong ones to figure it out10:21
troy_si _almost_ bought an amd64 bual10:21
troy_sdual core10:21
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troy_si simply can't deal with 32 bit sluggy anymore so i am pretty much an amd fanboi.10:21
kwwiilooks cool10:21
troy_slook at the vids10:21
troy_s;)10:21
troy_swait until you see the videos of it in action.10:22
kwwiithat was what I was just doing :-)10:22
kwwiionly thing I saw until now10:22
troy_sit is very cool10:22
kwwiilooks like it does a lot10:22
troy_sthe pager kills compiz/beryl.10:22
troy_sand it has a user interface element that makes it actually useful10:23
troy_sas opposed to silly10:23
troy_spretty cool eh?10:25
kwwiian interesting format for future works10:26
kwwiimore than one given thing10:26
kwwiivery interesting10:27
troy_swell the interesting thing is that it isn't just bloody useless 3d accelleration10:27
troy_sit actually _does_ something useful10:27
kwwiitrue10:27
troy_sthe mirror thing is pretty interesting too10:27
troy_salthough the wing windows is probably the best.10:28
kwwiithe video downloads very slowly10:28
kwwiisome of the mandriva stuff is kinda silly thought10:30
kwwiithough10:30
troy_smuch of everything is silly10:30
troy_sin particular, what do you think is silly?10:30
kwwiiwell, the idea that someone would click through a menu that was at 45 where you cannot read the text10:32
troy_si don't think the video does it justice10:32
troy_stry compiling it.10:33
troy_sfecking pypanel10:33
troy_si can't get the sucker to launch and it is driving me bonkers.10:33
kwwiithe table-top stuff looks killer10:35
kwwiiif only there was a system to really use that10:36
kwwiitime for bed here10:36
troy_snight kwwii10:37
kwwiisee you tomorrow10:37
troy_syes there are some very killer elements to it10:37
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lizardkinghi11:36
lizardkingcome back to basket training11:36
lizardkingyeah I try matiss and it is very very interesting and usable 3d project. for some aspect better than compiz11:36
alefteristroy_s, inkscape still compiling :) it takes ages in my machine11:39
alefterisif i import a pixmap into inscape, it tracks it down with absolute paths? is ti posible to embed the imported files then when saving in some other format?11:43
alefterisWARNING: Bad markup found in translations.  Please consider fixing the above problems.11:47
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alefterisdz.po?? thats wird11:48
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alefteristroy_s, dispite the error, it works, and blur is wiked :)12:00

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