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lamontkeescook: you planning to put bind9 9.3.4-1ubuntu1 into feisty?04:30
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geserlamont: could you please give-back mod-mono. thanks04:32
lamontgeser: what, everywhere?04:32
geseryes, on all archs04:33
geserapache2.2 was uploaded after mod-mono was synced04:34
lamontand launchpad failed to drop it into depwait.  go LP04:34
lamontman I hate web interfaces.04:36
lamontdone04:36
geserthanks04:39
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sponixanyone working on Smart Card Access (CAC) -- coolkey ?04:55
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fabbionemorning06:22
LaserJockmorning fabbione 06:23
fabbioneAdri2000: i have done it, but next time look at the merge first.. it was really simple to do and didn't require sparc at all06:29
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keescooklamont: yup, that's the goal.  It's on my list for monday.06:45
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pittifabbione: there's no way to detect with which md version the volume has been created?07:53
fabbionepitti: what would that achieve?07:53
fabbioneyou will still have byte swapped version written somewhere in the SB it self07:54
pittifabbione: comparing both endianesses will work of course, but wouldn't that catch a corner-case of non-md devices as well?07:54
pittifabbione: oh, there will always be a 0.9 *and* a 1.0 header?07:54
fabbionepitti: no.. you will endup just checking another byte the same way you check the sb magic07:54
fabbioneit won't solve anything other than making the check more complex07:55
pittiok07:56
fabbione< 107:56
fabbionetypedef struct mdp_superblock_s {07:56
fabbione        __u32 md_magic;         /*  0 MD identifier                           */07:56
fabbione        __u32 major_version;    /*  1 major version to which the set conforms */07:56
fabbione        __u32 minor_version;    /*  2 minor version ...                       */07:56
fabbione> 107:56
fabbionestruct mdp_superblock_1 {07:56
fabbione        /* constant array information - 128 bytes */07:56
fabbione        __le32  magic;          /* MD_SB_MAGIC: 0xa92b4efc - little endian */07:56
fabbione        __le32  major_version;  /* 1 */07:56
fabbione        __le32  feature_map;    /* bit 0 set if 'bitmap_offset' is meaningful */07:56
fabbioneso if you look at major_version07:56
pittifabbione: my only concern is that this might consider a normal partition as a md volume which just happens to have the magic there in reverse byte order07:56
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fabbioneyou will still endup doing a if foo = 1 || foo = xlate(1)07:57
fabbionepitti: i already checked that.. it's almost impossible to do that07:57
fabbionemost FS do round the end of the device in the exact same way07:57
fabbionei can give you a test case for it if you want07:57
pittifabbione: true, if that could happen, then a normal fs could also accidentally have the little-endian md magic07:57
fabbione(there is another bug open for that, that we should NOT confuse with what we are fixing here)07:58
pittiso it shouldn't be a concern07:58
pittifabbione: alright, thanks for the explanation07:58
pittifabbione: approved (also noted so in the bug), please upload07:59
fabbioneit's already uploaded07:59
fabbioneas i wrote in the bug :)08:00
fabbionepitti: you just need to change hat and approve the upload :P08:00
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\shmoins08:01
pittifabbione: sorry for my unnerving questions, I'm just paranoid08:02
pittihi \sh08:02
fabbionepitti: that's ok :) you have the right to be paranoid :)08:02
pittifabbione: both accepted08:03
fabbionepitti: thanks08:03
\shmoins pitti :) 08:03
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dholbachgood morning09:11
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Mithrandirseb128: good morning, I was just looking for you.09:13
seb128hey Mithrandir09:13
Mithrandirseb128: serpentine seems to build-dep on muine, which isn't in main.  Can you fix that?09:13
seb128what's up?09:13
seb128sure09:13
Mithrandir(as in, write a MIR or change the build-dep)09:13
Mithrandirthanks.09:13
seb128np09:13
Mithrandir:-)09:14
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somerville32\o_09:18
Mithrandirseb128: there seems to be a bunch of GTK themest which are no longer depended on by anything in main (gray-theme, industrialtango-theme, outdoors-theme, resilence-theme, silicon-theme).  Should I keep them nevertheless or can they be put in universe?09:21
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seb128Mithrandir: because to ask dholbach or artwork team about themes, as far as I'm concerned those can go to universe, I'm not sure of why they were to main09:22
seb128s/because/better09:22
Mithrandirseb128: ok, thanks.09:22
seb128(need to wake up :p)09:22
Mithrandirdholbach: there seems to be a bunch of GTK themest which are no longer depended on by anything in main (gray-theme, industrialtango-theme, outdoors-theme, resilence-theme, silicon-theme).  Should I keep them nevertheless or can they be put in universe?09:22
seb128np ;)09:22
dholbachMithrandir: universe is fine09:22
Mithrandirdholbach: coolie, thanks.09:22
Mithrandir.mvo: you're aware that update-manager ftbfs?09:22
dholbachMithrandir: I asked the ubuntu-art list a while ago and it was fine for them - I just never managed to tell you or other archive admins what to do about them09:22
Mithrandirs/^.//09:22
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Mithrandirdholbach: that's fine, they've been in the anastacia output for a while, so I figured I'd better decide what to do with them.09:23
Mithrandirdholbach: same with the edgy themes and wallpapers and such?09:24
dholbachMithrandir: yes09:24
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Mithrandirdholbach: yay!09:25
mvoMithrandir: yes09:26
Mithrandirpitti: postgresql-8.2 doesn't seem to be seeded, is it about time to change -8.1 to -8.2 in the seeds?09:27
Mithrandirmvo: thanks.  Are you planning on making anything depend on apt-transport-https or can it be demoted to universe?09:28
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mvoMithrandir: why would we want to demote it? its just a seperate package so that the dependencies of apt do not inflate.09:35
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Mithrandirmvo: because nothing depends on it, and we don't keep stuff in main if we don't explicitly want it (in which case it's seeded) or something we want needs it (in which case germinate pulls it in)09:37
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pittiMithrandir: right, I'll care for the remaining bits RSN09:38
Mithrandirpitti: cheers.09:38
mvoMithrandir: I would rather want to seed it explicitely then09:38
elmouh, why is it in a separate package?09:39
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mvoelmo: to keep apt from having a libcurl-gnutls lib dependency09:40
pitticarlos: time for new langpacks for dapper?09:40
carlospitti: yeah, I was talking with you about it in another channel :-P09:41
elmomvo: meh09:42
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Adri2000fabbione: ok, I just didn't want to upload because I couldn't be sure that it would build fine or not10:21
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pittiMithrandir: did you commit your avahi upload into the bzr?10:35
Mithrandirpitti: nope, sorry.10:36
Mithrandirthe source package isn't a branch, for some reason.10:36
pittiMithrandir: just toss me the debdiff, I can do it for you quickly10:36
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Mithrandirpitti: http://rafb.net/p/yEdLMj68.html10:38
Mithrandirpitti: thanks10:39
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sivangpitti: I hope this time you got the pivmsg :)11:11
sivang(I forgot to identify just before)11:11
pittihi sivang 11:11
pittiyes, I got it11:11
sivangpitti: cool, thanks11:12
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pittiMithrandir: postgresql-8.2 transition is complete for main, I changed the seeds and will do the pro/demotion soon11:22
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Mithrandirpitti: cheers.11:23
stubyay11:31
pittistub: btw, I built an 8.2 package for dapper for niemeyer11:33
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Tonio_seb128: ping ?11:53
seb128Tonio_: no content ping warning11:54
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Tonio_seb128: yes sorry, I was jsut doing something else11:54
Tonio_seb128: I'm just about to sync the fonts settings you changed in gnome in kubuntu11:55
seb128I didn't change anything yet11:55
Tonio_seb128: what are the exact settings you used (font, size...)11:55
Tonio_seb128: okay, I just noticed dejavu sans condensed isn't there on a native feisty installation11:55
Tonio_seb128: ttf-dejavu changelog talks about removing -condensed suffix11:56
seb128That apparently require discussion before being changed11:57
seb128I think I'm going to wait for the artwork team to decide something11:57
Tonio_okay, it would be nice that we stay sync conerning this, I'll follow the discussion11:58
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Tonio_seb128: do you see Condensed in the font list ? I can't see it here, and I was confirmed it is the same for all people with kubuntu-feisty11:59
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pittihi sabdfl, how's it going?11:59
sabdflguuuurd11:59
pittiMithrandir, cjwatson: grabbing lock for doing syncs11:59
sabdflhow's the apport-meister?12:00
pittisabdfl: I'm great, thanks!12:00
pittisabdfl: check out apport 0.45, just uploaded today, now with 21.5% more love :)12:00
sabdfldl'ing12:01
Tonio_seb128: I'd like to get a confirmation because it seems like a kde bug, since the ttf file is installed here...12:01
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seb128Tonio_: DejaVu have "Condensed" style listed with the GNOME capplet12:05
seb128Tonio_: that's not a different font, that's a variant like "italic"12:06
Tonio_seb128: yeah but I don't get it.... probably a kde issue I'll have to fix12:06
seb128maybe12:06
Tonio_seb128: thanks for the info, that'll help12:06
seb128works fine from the GNOME capplet12:06
seb128np12:06
Tonio_seb128: the point is if you ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/ it looks like a different font, not a style.... I'm a bit lost to be honnest ;)12:08
Tonio_seb128: a style should be named DejaVuSerif-Condensed.ttf not DejaVuSerifCondensed.ttf12:08
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kwwiiseb128: I do not think that it is only a style, it is a font12:09
Tonio_kwwii: true, and the point is there is a conflict name between the condensed and the "normal"12:10
seb128kwwii: well, the GNOME capplet list it as a style12:10
seb128kwwii: that's all I know about it ;)12:10
Tonio_when I install the tff manually, they both overwrites each other12:10
kwwiiseb128: in gnome(edgy) I can select it as a font and then change the style12:10
Tonio_kwwii: yup condensed is supposed to have its own styles (bold...)12:11
kwwiierm, at least I think I can12:11
kwwiione second12:11
seb128kwwii: on my feisty desktop, the left pane list only 3 variants, and the middle pane (style) has the "condensed"12:11
seb128ExtraLight, Condensed, Book, etc12:11
kwwiiyeah, it is different on edgy12:13
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kwwiiso how do you set condensed bold?12:14
Tonio_kwwii: in the third panel probably :) kde only has 2 panels, that may explain the trick12:14
seb128kwwii: I pick "Condensed Bold" as style12:14
kwwiiahaaa12:14
seb128there is 10 styles listed there12:15
seb128Condensed Bold is one of them12:15
Tonio_hum....12:15
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seb128Tonio_: there is only 2 panes there12:16
seb128the 3 columns is the font size12:16
Tonio_seb128: okay so it looks like the kcm module is broken somehow12:16
kwwiibut you see all the variants as options in the second pane12:16
seb128right12:16
Tonio_but what is very strange is that the naming of the ttf shows condensed as a different font12:16
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seb128I don't say that's correct12:16
jsgotangco#iosn12:16
seb128I don't know much about font12:16
Tonio_seb128: well the naming is supposed to be <fontname>-<style>.ttf12:17
Tonio_that's why I'm a bit lost :)12:17
Tonio_seb128: it would be interesting to know if "condensed" is a different font or a style on ubuntu edgy in fact12:19
seb128kwwii said that's listed as a different font for him12:20
Tonio_seb128: with kde it appears that way yes, I assume it should be the same with gnome12:20
seb128on edgy it is, on feisty it's not12:21
Tonio_seb128: looking at ttf-dejavu.defoma-hints in the source package, it looks like a different font, I'll try to get the infos and fix this...12:21
seb128I don't think the font capplet code changed recently12:21
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seb128I would say that's a font change then12:21
Tonio_seb128: so that's probably a bug in the font12:21
Amaranthdejavu?12:22
Amaranthalmost certainly a bug in the font12:22
seb128yep12:22
seb128why?12:22
Amaranthpast experience :)12:22
Tonio_Amaranth: hehe12:22
Tonio_seb128: FamilyName: DejaVu Sans Condensed12:23
Tonio_seb128: that confirms the bug, it is clearly not a style12:23
seb128Amaranth: we are trying to figure what is wrong there, please don't make random assertion because you already bugs with the font, that's not really useful12:24
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Tonio_seb128: the issue looks like the saming of the font. gnome seems to merge the styles while kde probably uses the latest ttf loaded only12:27
Tonio_seb128: fixing the name should resolve the issue, I'm testing this12:28
seb128please talk to doko before doing changes to the package though12:28
Tonio_of course12:28
Tonio_seb128: I wouldn't touch something impacting not only kde before pinging the good personns for this12:28
seb128k12:29
ogracjwatson, thanks for making the g-p-m patch will upload it during the afternoon ...12:29
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pittimdz: since bug 74004 seems to be your's, want to upload to edgy-updates? the bug is not yet closed in feisty and feisty's changelog does not mention this either, is this still relevant in feisty?12:47
UbugtuMalone bug 74004 in udev "Doesn't include qla2xxx firmware" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7400412:47
pittiah, seems to be relevant for feisty12:47
mdzpitti: I thought it was fixed in feisty by BenC12:48
mdzpitti: could you finish off the SRU for me for edgy?12:48
pittimdz: can do12:48
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Tonio_seb128: debian has ttf-dejavu-2.14, while we have 13, I'm building to see if the issue is resolved12:54
pittimdz: done12:56
seb128Tonio_: I've looked at the .deb from Debian this morning, the name has no "-" neither12:58
tepsipakkirodarvus: ping, i810 on dapper12:58
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Tonio_seb128: yes, which makes sense has it is a different font12:58
mdzpitti: thank you12:59
Tonio_seb128: what is important is the name inside the ttf, which should not be "Dejavu Sans" but "Dejavu Sans Condensed" as on edgy12:59
seb128k12:59
Tonio_there is the bug, several fonts have the same name12:59
seb128We will probably sync the new package from Debian12:59
seb128I want to ask doko before doing a sync request though12:59
Tonio_seb128: yup, I'm reloading kde to test the package01:00
cjwatsonogra: you're welcome - I obviously had incentive01:00
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Tonio_seb128: same issue :)01:03
seb128ok :/01:03
seb128maybe have a look to the upstream bug tracker or list01:03
Tonio_seb128: yes, I'll investigate and let you know01:05
carlospitti: http://people.ubuntu.com/~carlos/language-packs/dapper/rosetta-dapper-2007-01-29.tar.gz01:06
pitticarlos: yay01:07
Tonio_seb128: okay that's a debian change via ttf-dejavy.defome-hints01:10
Tonio_seb128: easy to fix though, I'm giving an attempt01:10
seb128k01:10
Tonio_seb128: they have changed all "family" tags to group them, when it is supposed to be different fonts..... dirty....01:10
seb128they probably did it for a reason01:11
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Tonio_seb128: probably to reduce the font numbers and group them as styles, which can make sense, except that breaks kde :)01:15
seb128fix kde then ;)01:15
Tonio_seb128: well I don't think there is a kde bug on that point01:16
Tonio_seb128: I think their changes have an issue somehow, since kde recognize styles correctly on all fonts01:16
seb128it doesn't list all the variants no?01:16
Tonio_seb128: so we have to improve what debian does, or switch back to what dejavu is supposed to be01:16
seb128k01:16
Tonio_seb128: in that case kde doesn't, no, but probably because something misses for the variant to be correct01:17
Tonio_if that was a bug that would bug on all fonts, not only that patched one :)01:17
seb128could be, right01:17
seb128anyway lunch time for me01:17
seb128bbl01:17
Tonio_seya01:17
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mvoMithrandir: is there a way to see the source NEW queue for feisty? http://people.ubuntu.com/~tfheen/unapproved-queue/feisty/ seems to be empty currently01:21
Mithrandirmvo: yes, it's not in unapproved, it's in NEW.01:22
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Mithrandirmvo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue should show it to you, though01:23
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mvoMithrandir: cool, thanks01:24
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cjwatsonhmm, how strange, today's daily desktop CD comes up without panels01:33
cjwatsonDISPLAY=:0 gnome-panel from tty1 works though01:34
Mithrandirthe panel doesn't start at all?01:34
Mithrandiranything interesting in the xsession log?01:34
cjwatsonwhen started by hand, it's fine01:34
cjwatsonpractically nothing in .xsession-errors - nothing of interest01:34
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Mithrandirhm, weird01:35
owhpitti: Do you have a moment?01:36
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tepsipakkiopenoffice.org-voikko is uninstallable for some strange reason.. it depends on oo.o-core (>= 2.0.4), but refuses to install when 2.1-2u4 is installed01:55
Mithrandirit's probably conflicted against by something else01:55
tepsipakkioh01:55
tepsipakkiI'll check01:55
tepsipakkierr01:58
tepsipakkiConflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.4.1)01:58
tepsipakkiso, that's the reason then ;)01:58
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tepsipakkiI'll contact the maintainer01:59
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lamontkeescook: uh, you'll want 9.3.4-2 :-(02:05
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lamontkeescook: 9.3.4-2 will be in today's dinstall run02:11
lamontbind9 (1:9.3.4-2) unstable; urgency=high02:12
lamont  * Actually really do the merge of 9.3.4.  Sigh.02:12
siretartMithrandir: are you still at syncing stuff from debian?02:15
Mithrandirsiretart: we do process sync requests filed in launchpad, yes.02:15
siretartMithrandir: I filed a sync request for openarena, which (persumably you) just processed. I think forgot to request openarena-data to by synced as well :( 02:16
siretartIf you're already done with it for today, I'll file another bug, no problem02:17
Mithrandirsiretart: pitti does syncs too now, but just file a bug about it.02:17
siretartMithrandir: aah, okay. willdo02:17
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StevenKMithrandir: Correct me if I'm wrong, but usplash also needs a .a file if uswsusp is compiling with -static02:26
MithrandirStevenK: uswsusp shouldn't compile with -static.  IMO.02:27
MithrandirStevenK: or usplash could grow a .a02:27
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mjg59Why would uswsusp be static?02:27
mjg59We're already carrying most of the libraries it needs in initramfs02:28
StevenKI could swear it is, and that upstream has made it so.02:28
Mithrandirit is, and upstream has made it so.02:28
mjg59Well, that's trivial to fix02:28
Mithrandirit works just fine dynamically for me.02:28
StevenKIndeed.02:28
mjg59Building it statically makes sense for end-users02:28
mjg59Integrating initramfs stuff is hard02:29
kylemlet's go shopping02:29
StevenKSo should I junk my usplash .a stuff and make it dynamic, or keep the usplash .a and leave it static?02:29
mjg59Make it dynamic02:29
mjg59Otherwise we'll be carrying two copies of libusplash in initramfs02:30
StevenKAye02:30
StevenKI note I just got libusplash.a generating correctly and installed in my test. :-)02:30
Mithrandirheh02:30
StevenKdpkg-deb: building package `uswsusp' in `../uswsusp_0.5-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb'.02:33
StevenKHurray!02:33
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Tonio_seb128: the change from font to style is upstream in ttf-dejavu, and the problem with kcontrol looks likea kde bug, reported in opensuse too....02:38
seb128ok02:38
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pittire02:45
pittisiretart: I synced openarea this morning, it should be in NEW now02:45
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siretartpitti: I forgot to request openarena-data to be synced as well :(02:48
siretartpitti: I've reopened the bug now. - thanks for  syncing!02:49
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visik7hi 02:58
visik7I'm trying to figure out how to use python-apt 02:58
visik7but I can't find any docs about it02:59
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crimsunpitti: yes, please reject the azureus upload for edgy-proposed03:15
pitticrimsun: yup, will do03:15
crimsunpitti: thanks03:16
pitticrimsun: oh, there is also a azureus/2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu0.6.10~proposed1 upload now03:16
somerville32crimsun: Did you see that report of regression on the xubuntu-devel ml?03:16
crimsunpitti: oh, ok. I just now read your earlier email regarding the version conflict.03:17
crimsunsomerville32: no, -> #x..-devel?03:17
somerville32Sure03:18
zul /msg pitti can you check to see the 2.6.12 upload got accpted i havent gotten any feedback yet03:18
pitticrimsun: removed, updated bug03:18
pittizul: doing03:19
crimsunpitti: thanks!03:19
zulpitti: merci03:19
pittizul: heh:03:19
pitti2007-01-29 14:10: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.43_source.changes03:19
pittilinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.43_source.changes03:19
pittiREJECT03:19
pittiRejected: Unknown distribution `UNRELEASED'.03:19
zulwhoops03:19
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fabbionezul: you better not fuck up breezy kernel03:20
fabbionezul: i am still running my server on breezy03:20
zulfabbione: i havent yet03:20
fabbionezul: or you will hear from me.. :)03:20
zulfabbione: heh03:21
fabbionetho hopefully i will manage to upgrade to dapper in 3 weeks03:21
kylembetter do it soon, only 3 more months of breezy. ;-)03:21
zulthank god03:21
fabbionekylem: yeah that too.. but to dist-upgrade that box i need a day off and at least a month at home to make sure it won't crash03:22
Mithrandirmvo: can you please do your GnomeAppInstallDesktopDatabaseUpdate thing?03:22
pitticrimsun: accepted, bug updated (fixcommitted, added tag)03:22
crimsun(thanks again :)03:23
mvoMithrandir: what needs to be added?03:25
Mithrandirmvo: just do the update, we're getting close-ish to a herd.03:26
mvoMithrandir: ah, ok. I will do that now then03:28
Mithrandirthanks03:29
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mvo_does anyone knows what happend to acroread in multiverse in feisty? lp says it got removed, but I can't see (in LP) why03:44
somerville32mvo_: License issues03:45
mvo_ok, thanks03:45
mdz_ogra: I'm having a lot of problems with power management now; is this due to the new g-p-m?03:48
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mdz_ogra: my backlight keeps forcing itself to the lowest setting, even on AC or when I move the slider in gpm preferences, e.g.03:48
bddebianHeya03:49
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ogra_mdz, thats either hal, the kernel or g-p-m03:57
mdzogra_: I just downgraded gpm and now it works properly03:57
ogra_hmm, ok i think there is a bug about thet 03:58
ogra_*that03:58
cjwatsonogra_: for the next g-p-m, could you remember to package it with an .orig.tar.gz? I noticed it was native-style03:58
ogra_huh ? 03:58
cjwatsonyou should be able to fix that without having to wait for a new upstream version or anything03:58
cjwatson-rw-r--r--  1 cjwatson cjwatson     964 2007-01-24 19:03 gnome-power-manager_2.17.90-0ubuntu2.dsc03:58
cjwatson-rw-r--r--  1 cjwatson cjwatson 2515755 2007-01-24 19:03 gnome-power-manager_2.17.90-0ubuntu2.tar.gz03:58
ogra_gra@edubuntu:~/packages$ ls gnome-power-manager_2.17.90*gz03:59
ogra_gnome-power-manager_2.17.90-0ubuntu1.tar.gz  gnome-power-manager_2.17.90-0ubuntu2.tar.gz  gnome-power-manager_2.17.90.tar.gz03:59
ogra_mmmpf, sorry03:59
cjwatsonmv gnome-power-manager_2.17.90.tar.gz gnome-power-manager_2.17.90.orig.tar.gz03:59
ogra_yeah03:59
mvo_pitti: pmount is no longer a rdepend off any package installed by ubuntu (only kubuntu). what happend ?03:59
ogra_i usually wget it and mv it to _*.orig.tar.gz ... seems i missed the orig .... grr04:00
pittimvo_: we don't use it any more04:00
seb128mvo_: gnome-mount happened04:00
mvo_oh, good04:00
pittimvo_: and I switched the hal backend from pmount to upstream's04:00
mvo_because it means the autoremove code in apt did the right thing, I was worried :)04:00
RiddellMithrandir: is herd 3 happening this week?04:09
MithrandirRiddell: yes, I've sent the pre-freeze announcement to u-d-a, but I don't think it's been approved yet.04:10
cjwatsoncan fix that04:11
cjwatsonmoderated04:12
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Mithrandircheers04:13
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cjwatsonMithrandir: todo for herd 3 after this ubiquity upload: deliberately break ubiquity and check that the apport hook works smoothly (a) if you have to login to an existing account (b) if you have to create a new account04:16
cjwatson(a) is more important for now04:16
cjwatson(but (b) should be fixed before release)04:17
Mithrandircjwatson: cheers04:17
pitticjwatson: I tested (a) with a normal crash, works fine04:17
cjwatsongreat04:18
pittiit even preserves the title04:18
cjwatsonubiquity 1.3.14 has the apport hook as we discussed, but untested04:18
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crimsunogra_: may I merge pulseaudio 0.9.5-5 from Debian unstable (pending Mithrandir's ACK) to pull in the fix for Debian 405869?04:27
UbugtuDebian bug 405869 in pulseaudio "/etc/init.d/pulseaudio may call chown on non-existing file" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/40586904:27
crimsunogra_: or do you feel it's low enough priority that it's deferrable?04:27
ogra_crimsun, feel free, we dont use the initscript by default anywayx04:27
Mithrandircrimsun: why would you wait for a ack from me?04:28
ogra_right, just merge it :)04:28
crimsunMithrandir: it's a main package and I just read the u-d-a post regarding Herd 3?04:28
Mithrandircrimsun: well, we're not frozen yet, so just don't break anything. :-)04:30
bddebianbreak it!!04:31
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ogra_meh, herd freeze ...04:37
ogra_bad timing04:37
mdzMithrandir: network-manager->desktop for herd 3?04:37
ogra_lets next release not have a milestone freeze a week before feature freeze ...04:39
pittimdz: it's already seeded04:41
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mdzpitti: it isn't in ubuntu-meta04:44
mdzand it wasn't removed from ship04:45
ogra_mdz, we dont have an UI freeze this time on the release schedule, was that an oversight ?04:50
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ogra_crimsun, what about the libasound split ?04:55
seb128Mithrandir: could you give a build retry on all archs for gnome-python-desktop ?04:55
crimsunogra_: meaning the alsa-plugins split?04:55
ogra_yeah04:55
crimsunogra_: if you don't mind, deferred til post-Herd 304:55
ogra_do you plan to do it ? else i'll just disable jack and do a MIR04:55
ogra_ok04:55
crimsunogra_: that's fine (disable jack and do an MIR)04:55
pittiif you talk about an MIR for jack, that won't happen with the current package04:56
crimsunpitti: no, alsa-plugins.04:56
ogra_as long as no jack users show up at my door at least :)04:56
ogra_pitti, i need alsa-plugins ... for ltsp ... but you wont like jack in main i guess :)04:57
pittiright, otherwise we have to cripple it again04:57
ogra_the proper solution would be a package split but we wont manage that before FF ... so i'll just disable jack04:57
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dholbachMithrandir: just FYI gtkmm2.4 and telepathy-idle updates are not important to herd305:06
mvo_Mithrandir: new app-install-data uploaded, thanks for reminding me about it05:07
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Mirvis there any eta when approved packages in MainInclusionQueue are actually going in main? malaga/voikko packages have been there in accepted for a bit over 1,5 months now.05:11
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Riddellmvo_: when does the cdrom progress stuff get used in dist-upgrade tool?05:20
RiddellMirv: a core-dev has to add them to a seed and request they get promoted05:21
MirvRiddell: yeah, I noticed this new MainInclusionProcess-page which mentions the seed. so after acceptance it's still up to the "driver" of the main inclusion to poke a proper core-dev to actually add the packages into a seed? otherwise they'll just stay in the Accepted queue?05:23
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RiddellMirv: yes05:24
MirvRiddell: thanks.05:25
mvo_Riddell: when the user runs the upgrader from a cdrom 05:25
Riddellmvo_: so user puts in a new alternate CD and the dist-upgrade tool gets run?05:26
mvo_Riddell: yes05:26
mvo_Riddell: he can run it manully with /cdrom/cdromupgrade05:26
Riddellmvo_: what does that run?05:27
mvo_Riddell: the dist-upgrader gets put onto the cdrom, the script extracts it and runs it05:27
Mirvpitti: Poke. bug #82143. concerning openoffice.org-voikko, a rebuild should be commenced to update the (because-of-ooo-problems-with-extensions) package's conflicts-dependencies. possibly the dependency generation should be also adjusted to most optimal value for feisty if needed.05:28
UbugtuMalone bug 82143 in language-support-fi "Add main-accepted Voikko packages to a seed, language-support-fi should depend on Voikko spellchecking libraries in 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8214305:28
Riddellmvo_: clever05:28
Riddellmvo_: apart from the cdrom stuff being missing, kde dist-upgrader seems to be working well, I've some tidying up to do and the packaging to sort out but then I may merge and upload if that's good with you05:29
mvo_Riddell: let me knwo when I should merge. the upload is a bit special, its a special target to get it into the "dist-upgrader" repository05:30
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Riddellmvo_: where is the dist-upgrader repository?05:31
mvo_Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+branch/update-manager/main05:34
mvo_Riddell: that is the code05:34
mvo_Riddell: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/dist-upgrader-all/05:35
mvo_that is the binary05:35
Riddellmvo_: ok, I'll let you know when05:35
mvo_thanks05:36
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gnomefreakguys nice job on apport i love it.05:43
henoMithrandir: I've posted a draft of the testing instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ForumProject/Instructions Please check it for sanity at your leisure05:43
givregnomefreak: wanted to say the same things. Apport rocks :)05:44
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gnomefreaki just wish it didnt bring you to LP but i guess it kind of has to05:44
pochuhi heno :)05:51
henopochu: hello :)05:52
pochui'm looking at your instructions page05:52
henopochu: cool, please make changes as you see fit05:53
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ogra_mdz, found the g-p-m brightness bug, thanks for pointing05:57
ogra_(fixed in the next upload)05:58
mdzogra_: cool, thanks05:58
pitticjwatson, Mithrandir: how do I update syncs/Debian_incoming_main_Sources on drescher?06:00
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dokohi06:02
pittiMirv: can you please add that to the bug, so that I won't forget?06:02
cjwatsonpitti: it's done by hand using dpkg-scansources whenever somebody asks us to sync from incoming06:02
cjwatsoni.e. grab the source package with lftp and then scansources it so that sync-source will work06:02
pittiah, there's no script for it then06:02
cjwatsonright06:03
pitticjwatson: thanks06:03
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cjwatsonlikewise Debian_snapshot_*_Sources06:03
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cjwatsonkwwii: do you have any thoughts as to what image format you'd like to use for ubiquity-slideshow? svg, png, jpg, something else?06:07
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kwwiicjwatson: png or svg would be good06:11
kwwiicjwatson: it would depend on what they look like vs. file size/quality06:11
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Mirvpitti: ok06:19
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cbx33any ubuntu-archive members around?06:24
cbx33I have a licensing question06:24
Mirv(done)06:28
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cjwatsonogra_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/06:30
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ogra_whee !!!06:31
ogra_7M already ? wow ...06:31
ogra_i thought tuxtype was smaller :)06:31
cjwatsonthere's probably some junk in the images06:32
ogra_i'll check then06:32
cjwatsonactually, no, very little junk06:32
cjwatson-r--r--r--   6    0    0         6752204 Jan 24 2007 [    105 00]   tuxtype-data_06:32
cjwatson1.5.6.dfsg1-3ubuntu4_all.deb06:32
cjwatsonit just is about that big06:32
ogra_heh06:32
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cbx33cjwatson, just looked on the pyvnc2swf site06:38
cbx33License06:38
cbx33Vnc2swf comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This software is distributed under the GNU General Public License. 06:38
ogra_then they are likely wrong06:38
cbx33indeed06:38
ogra_i dont think the at&t part works with the gpl06:38
cjwatson17:38 <cjwatson> either upstream resolves it (perhaps by talking to the original copyright holders, perhaps by deciding that there's nothing left in the code to which that copyright applies, or perhaps by06:39
cjwatson                 rewriting the offending portions of code), or we get specific permission from the named copyright holder (which is going to be pretty difficult as that AT&T lab in Cambridge doesn't exist any06:39
cjwatson                 more), or we use something else06:39
cjwatson17:38 <cjwatson> or we find something distributed by the copyright holder with a clearer and more permissive licence06:39
cjwatson17:38 <cjwatson> (you may find that it was just badly quoted)06:39
cjwatson(from conversation with cbx33)06:39
ogra_yeah06:39
cbx33sorry cjwatson I should have done it in here06:39
mdzmvo,iwj,seb128: I just tried out easy-codec-installation. nice!06:39
cjwatsonI don't recall AT&T Cambridge normally using restrictive licences like that06:39
seb128mdz: good :)06:39
mdzmvo_: what is the behaviour if the user doesn't have multiverse enabled?06:39
cjwatsonso you may find that it's just a mistake06:40
mvo_mdz: it will offer you to automatically add it for you06:40
seb128mdz: I will send a mail about it soon, I wanted to do it this morning but gnome-app-install was "just crashing" due to python-dbus change06:40
mdzmvo_: when? and with what caveat?06:40
seb128which mvo fixed quickly ;)06:40
seb128what is the appropriate list for mails like that?06:40
mdzseb128: yes, I had to install 0.3.9 to fix that06:40
ogra_cjwatson, hmm, btw, that makes me wonder if its really that clever that i copyright new code i write with "Canonical Ltd."06:40
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mdzpitti: apport caught the crash and directed me straight to the bug report :-)06:41
cjwatsonogra_: if you're doing it on work time, you don't have an option06:41
mvo_mdz: when multiverse is not enabled the codec will be displayed. when the user clicks on it it will tell him that he needs multiverse to actually get it and offer to automatically add it. then it runs a apt-get update (via synaptic) to make it available06:41
cjwatsonogra_: unless your contract differs rather radically from mine06:42
ogra_nope, it doesnt06:42
mdzmvo_: what if it's enabled in sources.list, but the user hasn't "enabled" it yet (a la enabling-additional-components)?06:42
ogra_just the " (which is going to be pretty difficult as that AT&T lab in Cambridge doesn't exist any mopre)" made me think about it ...06:42
cjwatsonogra_: if you're releasing code under a free licence, it's not a problem06:42
ogra_rigfht06:43
ogra_*right even06:43
mvo_mdz: when we enable universe/multiverse by default, there will be a message when the first universe/mutliverse program is added.. the messages will tell the user that the support for this application is limited. this is not yet enabled though because the switch in the installer is now yet flipped06:43
pochuheno: ping?06:45
henopochu: pong06:46
pochuheno: would be possible to change the bug contact for ubuntu iso test tracker to the iso testing team, in order to receive the mails about bugs?06:46
mdzmvo_: sounds good.  is the rest of enabling-additional-components done, with only the installer remaining?06:48
henopochu: Are you sure that's wise? There will be *very* many emails. Easily several hundred in 2-3 days06:48
pochuheno: hundred?06:48
henoas images are posted, tested and rejected06:48
mvo_mdz: kde changes are pending, otherwise we should be ready06:48
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pochuheno: then I'm not sure :)06:48
heno30odd images posted, then rejected and/or accepted, commented on, etc06:49
henoWhen you subscribe you get mail just for that image06:49
henoand only while it's active06:49
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henowe should probably have all the messages go to some email address, a list with a public archive perhaps06:50
pochumaybe you can create a ML in lists.ubuntu.com06:51
mdzmvo_: excellent06:51
henoIf there really is a need. Herd 4 feature request IMO06:51
henopochu: could do, but the list is already quite long there06:52
pochuheno: not sure what you want to say06:52
mvo_Mithrandir: when can we except the freeze for herd-3 (roughly)? tonight? tomorrow morning? later?06:53
henopochu: one should be slightly restrictive about creating lots of mailing lists, as the tend to pile up06:53
pochuheno: oh, ok06:54
pochunow I understand you :)06:54
henoone for ISO testing discussion is probably useful though06:54
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henono worries :)06:54
pochusure06:54
henopochu: any comments on the howto?06:55
pochuand if a testing discussion is made, then we maybe should change the contact address for the iso testing team06:55
henoI should post it today06:55
pochuheno: i'm doing a few changes06:55
pochu5 minutes :)06:55
pochuwell, they are links06:55
henopochu: ok, I'm off to eat, bbl06:55
pochuif you don't mind06:55
pochuok06:56
pochu:)06:56
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pittimdz: yay :)06:57
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pochuheno: done :)07:08
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henopochu: that looks good, thanks07:16
tkamppeter_pitti, can you quickly upload HPLIP 1.7.1, so that it makes it into Herd 3 (we are shortly before freeze, see "Herd 3 freeze imminent" on mailing list), fixes bug 60242, bug 66830, bug 74809, bug 77307 (and probably more).07:19
UbugtuMalone bug 60242 in hplip "Removing hplip encounters errors: scanner group not empty" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6024207:19
UbugtuMalone bug 66830 in python-qt3 "Problem with Socket Inter-Process Communication" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6683007:20
UbugtuMalone bug 74809 in hplip "dpkg -P hplip fails in ubuntu-6.10-desktop live cd" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7480907:20
UbugtuMalone bug 77307 in hplip "hp-setup fails with setupform import" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7730707:20
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pittitkamppeter_: doing so now; you forgot -sa when building the .changes, BTW07:30
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kwwiicjwatson: first we should make a decent list of what exactly needs to be presented07:40
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BenC$ ps ax | grep dbus-daemon | wc -l08:33
BenC1708:33
BenCwtf?08:33
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beunohey, I'm trying to cook up the "Herd 3" changes page, can anyone give me the highlights from "Herd 2"?08:37
somerville32beuno, Just take a peak at the Herd 2 page :)08:38
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mdkesomerville32: he means the highlights *since* herd 2 :)09:13
somerville32ah, lol09:13
somerville32Lots in the Xubuntu department ;] 09:14
jdonggood answer09:15
jdong"There's been lots of shiny buttons and ..... "09:15
jdongsupertux 0.3! :D09:15
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pochubeuno: I think the uwn has the weekly highlight, maybe you can take a look there09:18
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keescookMithrandir: (or other archive admins) it looks like due to a packaging change in the acroread security update for dapper/breezy, the binary package "acroread-escript" entered NEW.  Can someone fix that up?09:22
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beunopochu, yes, I have all those, I do the writeup every week  ;)  just wanted to know if there is anything specific you want to highlight09:35
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beunomdke, I did mean *since*, sorry it wasn't clear enough09:36
mdke:)09:36
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pochubeuno: ok, didn't know it :)09:37
beunopochu, np, I should of read through what I wrote before sending  ;)09:37
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Mithrandirmdz_: network-manager -> desktop has happened, but needs -meta upload, I'll do that.10:15
Mithrandirkeescook: investigating.10:15
Mithrandirmvo: thanks.  Freeze starts tomorrow.10:16
Mithrandirheno: thanks, I'll poke10:16
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keescookMithrandir: thanks10:17
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Mithrandirheno: can we add a irc nick/email column to the "Signed up for testing" table on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ForumProject10:18
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gotahola10:18
gotaspeacjing spanish?10:19
gotaspeacking*10:19
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nedkohi guys, i'm looking for someone that would create ubuntu package for jack_mixer (jack audio mixer)10:19
nedkoi really dont use ubuntu but ubuntu users often ask me for instructions how to build it10:20
henoMithrandir: can do, or LP ID even? As that is what will appear on the bug comments10:20
Mithrandirheno: LP id is good.10:20
TheMusonedko: Might want to ask in #ubuntu-motu10:21
nedkoTheMuso: thanks10:21
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Mithrandirhmm, there's an ancient lrm in breezy-security's new queue.10:23
Mithrandirbut only for sparc10:23
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Mithrandirkeescook: both accepted.10:27
keescookMithrandir: cool, thanks10:28
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gnomefreakis jono on holiday?10:28
pochugnomefreak: no, I talked to him this afternoon10:29
gnomefreakmvo_: g-a-i 3.10 fixes the dbus error right?10:29
gnomefreakpochu: ty10:29
pochugnomefreak: np ;)10:30
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mvo_gnomefreak: yes, it should10:36
gnomefreakty :)10:36
gnomefreakbtw update-manager is fixed thank you for that :)10:36
henoMithrandir: done, and cleaned it up a bit too. I guess I should clean up Testing/Current too with sensible links and such10:37
Mithrandirheno: thanks.10:37
mvo_gnomefreak: cheers :)10:38
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gnomefreaknight10:39
henoMithrandir: are the bugs at the end of Testing/Current still relevant or should I flush them all (or leave the still open ones?)10:39
Mithrandirheno: just flush them10:40
Mithrandirand with that, I'm off to bed10:40
henook10:40
slomoMithrandir: hi... there will be a new tomboy release in an hour or something... can i upload it before herd 3 freeze? it fixes a bad note corruption bug that some people had10:45
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mdkesfllaw: around?10:57
pochugnomefreak: ping?11:04
gnomefreakyeah?>11:04
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gnomefreakjono_: you busy?11:26
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jono_jono_: a little, but shoot :)11:27
gnomefreakjono_: can you join #nunstuff for a bit11:27
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