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mptI've just moved <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AirCard8X0> from wiki.ubuntu.com, but I can't easily tell what pages it should be linked from. Anyone who reads this and knows what they're doing is welcome to continue :-)02:48
tonyyarussompt: wifi info?02:51
mpttonyyarusso, there seem to be a variety of confusing wireless index pages02:55
tonyyarussoah02:55
tonyyarusso!wifi02:56
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tonyyarussobah, no bot02:56
tonyyarussowow, that is bad02:56
poningru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:03
tonyyarussoyeah, got there eventually ;)03:04
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mpt"WifiDocs" is not a good name for a page03:26
mptfor the same reason that we don't put "Doc" at the end of every page name03:27
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okaratasoh my god, i writing the las update ubuntu server guide turkish translate..03:45
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okaratashttp://www.ozgurkaratas.com/doc/Ubuntu_Sunucu_Rehberi.pdf05:08
okaratasi writing ubuntu server for turkish guide05:08
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LaserJockcool05:10
okaratasthank you LaserJock05:12
okaratasi am go to sleep, good bye05:13
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jbruckmanwhere's the doc for the wiki format?05:43
jbruckmananyone?05:47
LaserJockhmm?05:52
LaserJocklike how to write wiki pages?05:52
Madpilotgenerally, they're written with a keyboard </not_really_helpful>06:07
LaserJockMadpilot: :p06:08
Madpilothey, it's Sunday night, and I have another damn cold. What do you expect? ;)06:08
LaserJockfor you to be in bed asleep instead of on here06:09
Madpilotmeh. too early yet.06:11
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mptjbruckman, is <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnEditing> the sort of thing you're looking for?07:06
jbruckmanmpt: thanks, yeah07:07
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jendaWhat license is the content of the wiki under?08:14
somerville32Creative Commons, I believe (or will be)08:15
LaserJockjenda: which wiki?08:17
jendaofficial, LaserJock08:18
jendawiki.ubuntu.com08:18
LaserJockhelp.ubuntu.com/community is also an official wiki ;-)08:18
jendahehe :)08:18
LaserJockand the license of wiki.ubuntu.com is really up in the air08:18
jendait has a different license?08:18
jendaok08:18
jendaand for current practical purposes it is?08:18
LaserJockthe help.ubuntu.com/community is CC now08:19
LaserJockumm, not really sure what to say there08:19
LaserJockI think of it as public domain08:19
LaserJockbut that's not really it08:19
LaserJockmdke would probably whack me for saying that :-)08:20
LaserJockwe need to write up a new spec for wiki.ubuntu.com08:20
LaserJockthey thought about doing CC like the help wiki08:20
LaserJockbut that can cause a fair amount of problems of it's own08:21
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willvdlpopey ping03:36
popeywillvdl: pong03:40
willvdlHi there03:40
popeyHello03:40
willvdljsut going through screencasts03:40
willvdland wanted to know what player you folks normally use?03:40
popeypersonally I use vlc03:41
willvdlWith the oggs, I get sound but no picture03:41
popeydo you have an intel based chipset video card?03:41
willvdlyip03:41
popeybug :)03:41
willvdlah03:41
willvdlI'll use the mpeg's then :)03:42
popeyI suspect it may be the same03:42
popeyits the size of the frame 1024x768 that causes the issue I think03:42
willvdlurk03:42
popeywhich is the same for all the videos03:42
willvdlOK, I'll look into trying on nvidia03:42
popeybut I cant test it because I dont have any intel chipset machines03:43
willvdlthanks. I thought I was missing something03:44
popeyyou are not the first to report this unfortunately :(03:44
willvdlI should have ckecked03:44
popeyits not a problem03:46
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willvdlpopey, just for record, the mpeg4 files work with intel chipset but not the ogg or mpeg files04:50
popeythank you for that04:53
willvdljust to check, the text should be legible in the mpeg4 files?04:56
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LaserJockbah07:03
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nixternalbah bah black sheep07:19
LaserJockmdz wrote an email to -devel that he wasn't even aware the packaging guide existed until recently07:20
nixternalhehe07:20
nixternalwth?07:20
nixternaldidn't realise. I would think different on that one07:20
LaserJockthey were writing up the "ultimate" developer resource wiki page07:21
LaserJockand the packaging guide wasn't on it :/07:21
LaserJockoh well :-)07:21
nixternalhrmm, I wonder why it isn't07:22
LaserJockbecause nobody knew it existed07:22
LaserJockapparently07:22
nixternalwow, they have everything else dealing with packaging, but the guide07:22
nixternalhell, even a guide from Debian Women :)07:23
LaserJockyep07:23
LaserJockthat's a good guide too07:23
LaserJockI don't know why the Debian doc people don't use it more07:23
nixternalI am sorry, but if they didn't realise there wasn't a packaging guide already done (and a damn good one at that), then it makes me feel as if they don't even know WE as a team really exist or documentation for that part07:24
nixternalthat or they aren't following the MOTUs at all07:24
nixternalthe packaging guide is all the way at the bottom in teh "Other Resources"07:24
nixternalwow,07:25
LaserJockwell, that was just added too07:25
LaserJockbecause I emailed07:25
nixternalahhh07:25
nixternalI think the Ubuntu Packaging Guide adn the Debian New Maintainers Guide are the 2 major ones07:25
nixternalfor everything else, I just open the book of crimsun :)07:25
LaserJockheh07:26
nixternalooh, I just got my 1098-T "2006 Tuition Statement" for taxes07:28
nixternalI can't believe how much school costs. I don't pay anything so I never see the bills, but oh wow is it expensive07:29
nixternaland I don't see how Andreas Lloyd ever got into Anthropology. It is by far the dryest subject I have ever been involved in07:30
Burgworknixternal: that depends on the person07:36
nixternalI guess, but it is dry07:36
Burgworkto you, yes07:36
nixternalLogical Philosophy on the otherhand is pretty damn cool07:36
Burgworkto others, not so much07:36
LaserJockI thought Andreas' project was sweet07:40
nixternalactually Linguistical Anthropology isn't to bad07:40
LaserJockugg, I don't like languages ;-)07:40
nixternalhehe07:40
nixternalthen you would like prehistoric linguistics07:41
nixternalhowever that is an oxymoron I guess, since prehistoric didn't have a written language07:42
LaserJock\o/ I have MS Office back!07:43
nixternalprehistoric ^times07:43
nixternaleww07:43
LaserJockI can't believe it. I emailed this guy like months ago07:43
nixternalpeople at school are really liking OpenOffice.org. I have handed out a ton of this broke college student CDs07:43
LaserJockheh07:43
LaserJockwell I have it for free07:44
LaserJockI just have to get the campus IT guys to come install it07:44
nixternalwell I have OO.o and KO for free :)07:44
nixternalahh, campus IT guys, just under those working for Geek Squad07:44
LaserJocksure, but OO.o just isn't there yet for 100% of my needs, unfortunately07:44
LaserJocklike Acrobat Reader07:44
nixternalExcel must be your big one then?07:45
LaserJockI *have* to have acroread07:45
LaserJockno07:45
LaserJockI don't really use Excel07:45
nixternalwhat are you doing in Word that you can do in OO.o?07:45
LaserJockand if I did I'd use OO.o or Gnumeric07:45
nixternalfunky formatting07:45
LaserJocknot Word either ;-)07:45
LaserJockPowerPoint07:45
nixternaloh no07:45
nixternalya07:45
LaserJockthat's the killer07:45
nixternali Knew that was next07:45
nixternalPP and Impress are pretty damn close I thought07:45
nixternalI don't know, I haven't used Office in a long time07:45
nixternalI have been using OO.o since the StarOffice days with Corel Wordperfect as well07:46
LaserJockwell, I have to do this on mac and Windows machines07:46
LaserJockthe OS X OO.o is pretty bad07:46
nixternalreally?07:46
LaserJockyeah07:46
nixternalI just found out on Thursday they even had one07:46
LaserJockthere's also a fork called NeoOffice07:47
nixternalOne of the kids in my C++ class uses it and loves it he said07:47
LaserJockwell, I have to work with all non-OO.o users07:47
LaserJockit's difficult07:47
nixternalI have been trying to use KOffice more and more as it is becoming a very solid competitor, but there are just some annoyances I have with it right now07:47
nixternalis there a noticeable loss between PowerPoint and Impress?07:48
LaserJockoh yes07:48
nixternalI haven't looked into it.07:48
LaserJockmany graphics are messed up07:48
LaserJockyou lose formulas (which is the bad one for me)07:48
nixternalahh, same with the Word issues then07:48
LaserJockI hardly ever use Word so I don't mind07:49
nixternalI will have to see if my old man has any pp files to look at07:49
LaserJockthe only Office component I ever really use is PowerPoint07:49
nixternalall of mine are either OO.o or KOffice (raphink and KO)07:49
LaserJockwell, the biggest problem right now for me with OO.o on OS X is it constantly crashes07:50
LaserJockif I can stay in Ubuntu everything's fine07:51
nixternalya07:52
LaserJockbut once I try to go into a mixed environment it gets rough07:52
nixternalwow, I can't find one ppt file on my old man's server07:52
LaserJockespecially when it's a uni environment07:52
nixternalI am wondering if he has converted all of his ppt's into pdf's07:52
nixternali see a ton of pdfs07:52
nixternalLaserJock: wth is a Time Domain Reflectometer?07:54
nixternalwikipedia has the answer for everything07:56
nixternalreminds me of my wife, knows it all07:56
LaserJockbrb08:09
willvdlnixternal, isn't it one of those transmission line testing thingies?08:10
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nixternalwillvdl: Ya, it tests twisted pair and all kinds of things. I was reading a patent my dad has filed and seen the documentation for it.08:13
nixternaldamn nerds :)08:13
willvdlit's a very simple process used in field theory. applies to any kind of transmission line08:14
willvdlyou could, arguably, use it in a water pipe08:14
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nixternalwillvdl: water pipe? I will leave that one alone :)08:33
willvdlyou never know08:33
=== mdke hellos
mdkempt: I put the spec on the TB agenda for tomorrow evening08:34
LaserJockhi mdke08:34
nixternalhiya mdke08:36
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: mdke edgy * r3739 /ubuntu/desktopguide/de/ (15 files): updated German translation10:57
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mdkehiya jjesse11:05
jjessehiya mdke11:06
jjessehmm wireless at this hotel is slow11:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #45944 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4594411:40
tonyyarussoWhat format is the server guide in underneath, and what program reads that format outside of X?11:41
tonyyarussoDocbook I thought, but no idea what reads that11:41
jjesseits docbook but built into html11:42
tonyyarussojjesse: Ah, so any browser would be fine then eh?11:43
jjesseyeah11:44
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