=== zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:48] I've just moved from wiki.ubuntu.com, but I can't easily tell what pages it should be linked from. Anyone who reads this and knows what they're doing is welcome to continue :-) [02:51] mpt: wifi info? [02:55] tonyyarusso, there seem to be a variety of confusing wireless index pages [02:55] ah [02:56] !wifi === tonyyarusso looks [02:56] bah, no bot [02:56] wow, that is bad [03:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:04] yeah, got there eventually ;) === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === paulproteus is now known as paulproteus|jhu === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:26] "WifiDocs" is not a good name for a page [03:27] for the same reason that we don't put "Doc" at the end of every page name === jjesse [n=jjesse@ip-69-33-206-3.iad.megapath.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:45] oh my god, i writing the las update ubuntu server guide turkish translate.. === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.45] has joined #ubuntu-doc === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:08] http://www.ozgurkaratas.com/doc/Ubuntu_Sunucu_Rehberi.pdf [05:08] i writing ubuntu server for turkish guide === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] [05:10] cool [05:12] thank you LaserJock [05:13] i am go to sleep, good bye === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jbruckman [n=jbruckma@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:43] where's the doc for the wiki format? [05:47] anyone? [05:52] hmm? [05:52] like how to write wiki pages? [06:07] generally, they're written with a keyboard [06:08] Madpilot: :p [06:08] hey, it's Sunday night, and I have another damn cold. What do you expect? ;) [06:09] for you to be in bed asleep instead of on here [06:11] meh. too early yet. === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:06] jbruckman, is the sort of thing you're looking for? [07:07] mpt: thanks, yeah === mpt scowls at Madpilot and gets him a hot lemon-and-honey drink === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.45] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:14] What license is the content of the wiki under? [08:15] Creative Commons, I believe (or will be) [08:17] jenda: which wiki? [08:18] official, LaserJock [08:18] wiki.ubuntu.com [08:18] help.ubuntu.com/community is also an official wiki ;-) [08:18] hehe :) [08:18] and the license of wiki.ubuntu.com is really up in the air [08:18] it has a different license? [08:18] ok [08:18] and for current practical purposes it is? 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[03:41] personally I use vlc [03:41] With the oggs, I get sound but no picture [03:41] do you have an intel based chipset video card? [03:41] yip [03:41] bug :) [03:41] ah [03:42] I'll use the mpeg's then :) [03:42] I suspect it may be the same [03:42] its the size of the frame 1024x768 that causes the issue I think [03:42] urk [03:42] which is the same for all the videos [03:42] OK, I'll look into trying on nvidia [03:43] but I cant test it because I dont have any intel chipset machines [03:44] thanks. I thought I was missing something [03:44] you are not the first to report this unfortunately :( [03:44] I should have ckecked [03:46] its not a problem === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:50] popey, just for record, the mpeg4 files work with intel chipset but not the ogg or mpeg files [04:53] thank you for that [04:56] just to check, the text should be legible in the mpeg4 files? === medders [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.134.167] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.134.167] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:03] bah === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-239-88.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:19] bah bah black sheep [07:20] mdz wrote an email to -devel that he wasn't even aware the packaging guide existed until recently [07:20] hehe [07:20] wth? [07:20] didn't realise. I would think different on that one [07:21] they were writing up the "ultimate" developer resource wiki page [07:21] and the packaging guide wasn't on it :/ [07:21] oh well :-) [07:22] hrmm, I wonder why it isn't [07:22] because nobody knew it existed [07:22] apparently [07:22] wow, they have everything else dealing with packaging, but the guide [07:23] hell, even a guide from Debian Women :) [07:23] yep [07:23] that's a good guide too [07:23] I don't know why the Debian doc people don't use it more [07:24] I am sorry, but if they didn't realise there wasn't a packaging guide already done (and a damn good one at that), then it makes me feel as if they don't even know WE as a team really exist or documentation for that part [07:24] that or they aren't following the MOTUs at all [07:24] the packaging guide is all the way at the bottom in teh "Other Resources" [07:25] wow, [07:25] well, that was just added too [07:25] because I emailed [07:25] ahhh [07:25] I think the Ubuntu Packaging Guide adn the Debian New Maintainers Guide are the 2 major ones [07:25] for everything else, I just open the book of crimsun :) [07:26] heh [07:28] ooh, I just got my 1098-T "2006 Tuition Statement" for taxes [07:29] I can't believe how much school costs. I don't pay anything so I never see the bills, but oh wow is it expensive [07:30] and I don't see how Andreas Lloyd ever got into Anthropology. It is by far the dryest subject I have ever been involved in [07:36] nixternal: that depends on the person [07:36] I guess, but it is dry [07:36] to you, yes [07:36] Logical Philosophy on the otherhand is pretty damn cool [07:36] to others, not so much [07:40] I thought Andreas' project was sweet [07:40] actually Linguistical Anthropology isn't to bad [07:40] ugg, I don't like languages ;-) [07:40] hehe [07:41] then you would like prehistoric linguistics [07:42] however that is an oxymoron I guess, since prehistoric didn't have a written language [07:43] \o/ I have MS Office back! [07:43] prehistoric ^times [07:43] eww [07:43] I can't believe it. I emailed this guy like months ago [07:43] people at school are really liking OpenOffice.org. I have handed out a ton of this broke college student CDs [07:43] heh [07:44] well I have it for free [07:44] I just have to get the campus IT guys to come install it [07:44] well I have OO.o and KO for free :) [07:44] ahh, campus IT guys, just under those working for Geek Squad [07:44] sure, but OO.o just isn't there yet for 100% of my needs, unfortunately [07:44] like Acrobat Reader [07:45] Excel must be your big one then? [07:45] I *have* to have acroread [07:45] no [07:45] I don't really use Excel [07:45] what are you doing in Word that you can do in OO.o? [07:45] and if I did I'd use OO.o or Gnumeric [07:45] funky formatting [07:45] not Word either ;-) [07:45] PowerPoint [07:45] oh no [07:45] ya [07:45] that's the killer [07:45] i Knew that was next [07:45] PP and Impress are pretty damn close I thought [07:45] I don't know, I haven't used Office in a long time [07:46] I have been using OO.o since the StarOffice days with Corel Wordperfect as well [07:46] well, I have to do this on mac and Windows machines [07:46] the OS X OO.o is pretty bad [07:46] really? [07:46] yeah [07:46] I just found out on Thursday they even had one [07:47] there's also a fork called NeoOffice [07:47] One of the kids in my C++ class uses it and loves it he said [07:47] well, I have to work with all non-OO.o users [07:47] it's difficult [07:47] I have been trying to use KOffice more and more as it is becoming a very solid competitor, but there are just some annoyances I have with it right now [07:48] is there a noticeable loss between PowerPoint and Impress? [07:48] oh yes [07:48] I haven't looked into it. [07:48] many graphics are messed up [07:48] you lose formulas (which is the bad one for me) [07:48] ahh, same with the Word issues then [07:49] I hardly ever use Word so I don't mind [07:49] I will have to see if my old man has any pp files to look at [07:49] the only Office component I ever really use is PowerPoint [07:49] all of mine are either OO.o or KOffice (raphink and KO) [07:50] well, the biggest problem right now for me with OO.o on OS X is it constantly crashes [07:51] if I can stay in Ubuntu everything's fine [07:52] ya [07:52] but once I try to go into a mixed environment it gets rough [07:52] wow, I can't find one ppt file on my old man's server [07:52] especially when it's a uni environment [07:52] I am wondering if he has converted all of his ppt's into pdf's [07:52] i see a ton of pdfs [07:54] LaserJock: wth is a Time Domain Reflectometer? [07:56] wikipedia has the answer for everything [07:56] reminds me of my wife, knows it all [08:09] brb [08:10] nixternal, isn't it one of those transmission line testing thingies? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:13] willvdl: Ya, it tests twisted pair and all kinds of things. I was reading a patent my dad has filed and seen the documentation for it. [08:13] damn nerds :) [08:14] it's a very simple process used in field theory. applies to any kind of transmission line [08:14] you could, arguably, use it in a water pipe === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:33] willvdl: water pipe? 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[11:41] Docbook I thought, but no idea what reads that [11:42] its docbook but built into html [11:43] jjesse: Ah, so any browser would be fine then eh? [11:44] yeah === jjesse away eating dinner === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.115.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc