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tonyyarussognomefreak: http://idjc.sourceforge.net if you wanted to check built in depends stuff12:34
tonyyarussoThose look prettier.  This might still be possible.12:35
tonyyarussoPricey: also ^^12:35
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: cant right now i have major transfer going on so i can get back to ubuntu :)12:35
tonyyarussognomefreak: Righto.12:35
gnomefreakgrab it from upstream unpack it and look in README and INSTALL files to see if that version is "needed"12:36
tonyyarussocheck12:36
gnomefreakther eis something like it in edgy12:37
gnomefreakubuntu-studio maybe?12:37
gnomefreakbrb12:37
gnomefreakno version numbers i would say try it12:41
gnomefreakwith edgys version12:41
gnomefreakwhats wrong with josker(sp)  jonos baby12:42
gnomefreakiirc its a dj app12:42
tonyyarussoI have no idea.  I just do what they ask for.  ;)12:43
gnomefreakhttp://www.onlymeok.nildram.co.uk/download.html12:43
tonyyarussoPlus, now I kinda want to see if this works :P12:43
gnomefreakbuild it it looks fine its just ubuntus version that depedns on linc612:43
gnomefreaklibc6 even12:43
tonyyarussoLooks like it, yeah12:44
gnomefreakhe may want to use ./configure --help to make sure he gets everything he wants12:44
tonyyarussoI don't see any reason this should need to go in a root level directory, do you?12:46
gnomefreakno12:46
tonyyarussomethinks we'll do home dir then12:47
gnomefreakyou can always use make local  (it says how to do it on the link i gave above12:47
gnomefreakfrom that link it looked pretty much copy and paste :)12:47
tonyyarussoWhat would be the advantage of make local over --prefix=$HOME?12:49
gnomefreaknothing12:49
nothlitDESTDIR is recommended over prefix btw, from what i've read12:50
tonyyarussonothlit: That's not mentioned in the config --help12:51
nothlitoh its for make, not configure12:51
nothlitdepends on whether the package uses automake or not12:51
tonyyarussoah12:51
nothlitit has a different syntax though, so be careful :P12:52
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LjLi'm going crazy02:11
tonyyarussoTrolls in ##php02:12
tonyyarussoSpamming ones that is.02:12
nalioththe ##php ops are good at kick/banning02:13
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gnomefreakits starting from the beginning :(02:14
tonyyarusso:(02:15
gnomefreakand i copied the files over too so i guess either i will continue or ill buy it02:16
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BoyBlundrcan someone check to see if I'm clean of the DCCexploit?02:23
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gnomefreakwhere is the ops meeting on tuesday?02:51
FairLiteon -meeting i suppose?02:52
gnomefreakFairLite: it would need to be posted on frdge and its not02:52
tonyyarussoNo, it's here.02:52
tonyyarussoMost likely02:52
FairLiteperhaps.02:52
tonyyarussoTB has -meeting the hour before, so it might still be taken02:53
tonyyarussoWe'll probably have to play by ear and see when the time comes02:53
gnomefreakthats what i was thinking i just wanted to make sure incase im not here before the meeting02:53
tonyyarussocould be either really02:53
FairLitecould make it both. one faction on a channel and the other in the other. would be less heated for sure02:54
tonyyarussoeh?02:54
FairLitenm02:54
gnomefreakok im gonna let this thing run over night maybe they wont fail this time and im off to bed i think02:54
FairLitewell on the plus side, it's not like somebody not being entirely sure about the time and location of an exam... i mean, it's just a /join :P02:55
FairLite(and no personal references here of course)02:55
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AmbientMst1Here for the test03:55
maxamillionwhat test?03:55
AmbientMst1Ubuntu-read-topic03:55
tonyyarussoExploit vulnerability no doubt03:55
AmbientMst1Mmhm, I didn't set it right on my Windows03:56
maxamillionAmbientMst1: i don't admin #ubuntu .... i am not aware :/03:56
AmbientMst1On my Ubuntu I did.03:56
tonyyarussoAmbientMst1: /join #tonyyarusso please03:56
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tonyyarussoNope03:57
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mneptokanytime.06:36
mneptokbaby, let's go.06:36
mneptokevery day should be a hosiday.06:37
mneptokwhat the hess06:37
mneptokahahahaha!06:37
willys_fueguino???06:38
willys_fueguino:-S06:38
willys_fueguinogood night mneptok how are you??06:38
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somerville32I wish I was as cool as mneptok  :(06:42
mneptokok, keyboard pronk fixed :)06:44
willys_fueguinohahahhahaha06:44
mneptokdamned co-workers06:44
mneptoksomerville32: you OK over there?06:45
somerville32mneptok, Most likely not :)06:45
willys_fueguinowhat time is over there??06:47
somerville3201:4706:47
Hobbseemneptok: blame the coworkers...06:48
willys_fueguinosomerville32: where are you?? thats 1 hour less that over here :-O06:49
somerville32Canada06:49
mneptokHobbsee: i don't think i moved my keys in my sleep.06:49
mneptokalthough, it could be a co-worker's SO, i s'pose06:49
willys_fueguinosomerville32: you're almost in the north pole06:50
willys_fueguino:-O06:50
somerville32Umm... not really06:51
somerville32lol06:51
mneptokwe'll see what tectonics do.06:52
mneptokor, *we* won't see it. unless it's fast. which would be bad.06:52
willys_fueguinosomerville32: I'm from the south pole (almost) :-P06:55
somerville32Cool :)06:55
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Mezdefenestrates?07:29
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Madpilotdefenestrates = chucks out the window07:30
willys_fueguino*words07:30
Mezah07:30
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Hobbsee"the act of throwing someone or something out the window"07:30
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Mezand I thought it was something kinky07:31
Mezdarn07:31
Madpilotwe need a defenestration @lart for the bot07:31
somerville32Mez: Whose saying it *can't* be kinky? : P07:31
Mez@lart add defenestrates $who07:31
HobbseeMez: you just wish it was.07:31
Mez@lart 36 Madpilot07:31
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MezHobbsee, of course ;)07:32
willys_fueguinojajajjajajajajaj07:32
willys_fueguinoX'D07:32
Madpilot@lart 36 Mez07:32
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Madpilotperfect07:32
Madpilotalmost as good as my all-time favourite:07:32
Madpilot@lart 28 Mez07:32
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somerville32:D07:32
somerville32We should have a factoid honouring Hobbsee's greatness.07:32
Mezhmm... that says a lot about hobbsee07:33
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Hobbseepathetic sellotape07:37
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Mezs/chanis/chains/07:37
Mezleave me alone.07:38
MezI'm trying to clean07:38
Mez:P07:38
Hobbseehah07:38
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somerville32. . .07:39
Mezshe was laughing at me07:40
Mez:(07:40
mneptoknow if we could defenestrate the OS world.07:46
Mezmneptok, why ?07:47
mneptokbad pun. sorry.07:47
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willys_fueguinotheres someone here??08:41
willys_fueguinonalioth: are u there???08:42
mneptokwillys_fueguino: yes?08:45
willys_fueguinooh sorry....08:45
willys_fueguinonevermind...08:45
willys_fueguinoI had a missunderstood08:46
naliothwillys_fueguino: yes?08:51
willys_fueguinonalioth: sorry for that... just a missunderstood with someone...08:52
nalioth:)08:52
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ubotuIn #ubuntu, mwe said: !ops, GR33N3OX is being annoying09:19
somerville32lol09:19
willys_fueguino:-O09:20
willys_fueguino:-\09:20
willys_fueguinoim not an #ubuntu op09:20
willys_fueguinoI woudn't do any good :-P09:20
willys_fueguinoI've always got dizzy on that channel...09:20
Madpilot #ubuntu takes getting used to09:21
willys_fueguinoDon't you never sleep??09:22
willys_fueguinolol09:22
willys_fueguinoyou have shifts or what??09:22
tonyyarussoAh good, you got him :)  I was hoping he'd do something more warranting first...since just "annoying" is a little sketchy on it's own.09:22
Madpilottonyyarusso, you should have scrolled up, he was being more than merely 'annoying'09:22
tonyyarussoMadpilot: I just woke up - gave him two warnings for language/idiocy and was waiting for strike three, but people who have been up know more :)09:23
Madpilotya, he had your two warnings, that was enough09:23
Madpilothe had some warnings from non-ops too09:24
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Madpilottonyyarusso, WTF are you doing waking up at 0400, anyway?09:24
tonyyarussoDon't you hate it when you're getting something done, and suddenly look around and realize you passed out for five hours?09:24
tonyyarussoUmmmmmmmmmmm09:24
tonyyarusso03:15, technically.09:25
Madpilotsorry, got confused as to the diff. btwn this tz & eastern ;)09:25
tonyyarussoAlthough, that doesn't exactly help my case now does it?09:26
willys_fueguino5:26 over here...09:26
tonyyarussoYou know what I need?  Some magic time warping thing so that my friends can still be contactable on Gaim when I'm awake...09:28
Madpiloton that note, I need sleep. G'night, all. Don't let the trolls bite.09:32
=== willys_fueguino Have to sleep... good night everyone / Tiene ke dormir... buenas noches a todos
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jendawas that a public away, willys_noesta?09:34
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willys_noestasighs?? :-S09:35
GazzaKwillys_noesta, jenda hates public away messages09:35
willys_noestaoh.. sorry for that09:35
GazzaKhe has been known to kill for less :p09:35
jendaAs do the IRC guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:35
willys_noestaI'll leave the channel when I do that for now on..09:35
willys_noestasorry jenda09:36
somerville32lol09:36
willys_noestabtw... jenda you speak spanish??09:36
jendawillys_noesta: nope.09:36
jendaI can understand bits, however.09:36
willys_noestajenda: Then what are you doing on #ubuntu-es?? you are an op there??09:36
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somerville32GazzaK, Hiya :)09:37
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somerville324:37am here09:37
jendawillys_noesta: nope - I'm helping the spanish team get together on some issues they've had.09:37
GazzaKyou lie, that time is made up :p09:37
willys_noesta[05:35]  <GazzaK> he has been known to kill for less :p ====> X'D09:37
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willys_noestajenda: channel problems??09:37
jendawillys_noesta: a meeting will be announced soon, you're very welcome to join :)09:37
tonyyarussojenda: is that why the access list is private?09:37
somerville32er..09:37
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somerville32lol09:37
jendatonyyarusso: no, that's just one of it's problems.09:37
tonyyarussogaah09:37
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willys_noestajenda: :-O09:38
jendatonyyarusso: the loco leader looks like a power grabber to me, and it seems most of the team would agree.09:38
willys_noestasomerville32: I had that problem too.. but now I have to sleep urgently :-P09:38
willys_noestajenda: power grabber??09:38
willys_noestalike extremly dictatorial??09:39
jendalike 'first come, first served' type of LoCo leader.09:39
willys_noesta:-O09:39
jendathe type that isn't willing or able to run a loco team as it should be run, and is where he is just because he came first.09:40
willys_noestaWho is the loco leader?? p3l1c4n0??09:40
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willys_noestaXDDD09:40
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jendaaaargh :)09:40
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jendaaaargh!!!09:40
tonyyarussobahaha09:40
robhehe09:41
willys_noestajenda: is a female??!!!09:41
willys_noesta:-O09:41
jendawillys_noesta: no09:41
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willys_noestahahahhaha09:41
jendayes, you do, somerville32 :)09:41
tonyyarussoQuick, all the nerds converge on jenda now!09:41
robwillys_noesta, don't listen to her09:41
somerville32lol09:41
jendaAAARGH!09:41
willys_noestajenda: you had problems with pelicano?09:41
jenda/cs ultralart *09:41
robwillys_noesta, she's in a bad mood09:41
willys_noestarob: X'D09:41
jendawillys_noesta: no - pelicano has a problem with me. ;)09:41
tonyyarussorob: Maybe it's, you know..09:42
willys_noestajenda: ufff... pelicano has a problem with democracy-the world...09:42
willys_noestaguys...09:42
robtonyyarusso, no, I'm certain jenda is a chick09:42
tonyyarussoexactly09:42
willys_noestayou can't even imagine how much I like this community...09:42
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jendawillys_noesta: I believe most of the locoteam would like to get rid of him - or that's the impression I had. It'll become obvious (or not) at the meeting, which should be announced at your mailing list today.09:43
jendaI'm not a chick - GazzaK would like me if I were :)09:43
willys_noestajenda: I had problems with him since I joined IRc ubuntu community...09:43
GazzaKjenda, I like you as a bloke you know..... :p09:44
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willys_noestawell... I didn't make any trouble for him 'cause I'm not that kind of person...09:44
jendaObviously not the only one.09:44
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somerville32I thought GazzaK was more inclined to like me :P09:44
GazzaK:-)09:44
somerville32:-)09:44
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jendaGazzaK: what? You like somerville32 now?09:45
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GazzaKlol09:45
willys_noestaSome people leave that channel to join #ubuntu-lat because in that channel they are SO estrict... I know that they most have rules... but not so "extreme" ones...09:45
somerville32jenda: It comes with the good looks ;] 09:45
GazzaKjenda, you can you know, share me!!!09:45
willys_noestaXDDD09:45
willys_noestasomerville32: LOL!09:45
willys_noestaXDD09:45
jendaGazzaK: no way - ever heard of Solomon and the baby? I'd rather give you up than have half of you...09:46
jenda(not to mention I'd rather have half of you than all of you)09:46
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willys_noestahahahhah09:46
willys_noestaX'D09:46
GazzaKyou can have ALL of me jenda, just say the word :p09:46
willys_noesta:-O09:46
willys_noestayou should create the #ubuntu-ops-humorists channel :-P09:47
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tonyyarussoQuick, who would be the channel owner of that one do you suppose?  Shall we vote in unison?09:47
jendatonyyarusso: whoever joins first, unless Se veas declares otherwise.09:48
GazzaKI already have ##gazzak :-)  for when jenda feels like being rude :p09:48
somerville32How about ##jendas-backroom-poker-parlour?09:48
tonyyarussojenda: Well, technically, yeah09:48
jendasomerville32: sshhh :)09:48
mneptokpoke her wherenow?09:48
somerville32: O09:49
tonyyarussoThat's the one I was thinking of.09:49
willys_noestajenda: what mailing list did you refer earlier??09:49
jendatonyyarusso: unfortunately, I can't register any more channels :(09:49
tonyyarussojenda: ...there's a limit?09:49
jendawillys_noesta: should be the -es list09:49
somerville32I can't join any more channels, lol09:49
willys_noestathe ubuntu-spanish-translators one??09:49
jendatonyyarusso: yes09:49
tonyyarussosomerville32: lamer09:49
somerville32jenda: Can you remove my lame channel limit? :P09:49
jendawillys_noesta: I don't know, I wont' be teh one sending it. Pochu will09:49
jendasomerville32: hmm09:49
jendasomerville32: nope09:49
somerville32s/lame/inhibiting09:49
willys_noestajenda: 'cause I'm not on the ubuntu-es mailing list09:49
jendawillys_noesta: sign up, then :)09:50
somerville32jenda: But I'm a constructive contributor to the freenode community!09:50
jendaor just ask pochu later today.09:50
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jendasomerville32: I can't, as in, I can't :)09:50
GazzaKeeek, daytime backup of 550GB is not such a good idea09:50
willys_noestapochu??09:50
somerville32jenda: But you can poke the people who can09:50
willys_noestaoh I know him... he is a very nice person...09:50
jendasomerville32: I believe you already have, no?09:50
somerville32I bugged PhilKC?09:50
tonyyarussoCan't nal_ioth do it?09:51
somerville32He said he'd look into it but I haven't heard from him09:51
jendawillys_noesta: I hope he will be the next LoCo leader, but then again, that's up to the team to decide.09:51
jendawillys_noesta: I suppose you aren't spanish, are you?09:52
willys_noestajenda: nop. Argentinian...09:52
jendathought so.09:52
willys_noestajenda: I hope that too, and channel owner-"president"...09:52
jendagoes hand in hand.09:53
willys_noesta:-\09:53
willys_noestawith pochu in charge... the spanish community will grow up...09:54
willys_noesta(at least I think so)09:54
jendaI'm glad to hear that - my view as a foreign observer is limited :)09:54
jendawillys_noesta: once something happens with the -es team, I'm hoping to see a pan-hispanic language team spring up.09:55
willys_noestathe other day the ubuntu-es ops refused to take away a ban that I think it wasn't for me... 'cause the 2 ops that I talked too sayd "The one who did it should take it away"... they wash their hands..09:55
willys_noestajenda: I was thinking of "try" to create a locoteam for latin-america/spanish speakers...09:56
jendawillys_noesta: cool.09:56
jendadon't even talk about ops in -es :?09:56
jenda*:/09:56
willys_noestayeap. But right now that's only a project....09:56
willys_noestajenda: uh??09:57
willys_noestaoh..09:57
willys_noestanop09:57
willys_noestathe ops are the ubuntu-es members I think...09:57
willys_noestaI was trying to see tha access list to know who they were...09:58
willys_noestabut as you know its private :-\09:58
jendait certainly shouldn't be, however, the ubuntu-es-freenode team in launchpad tells you who they are.09:58
willys_noestaAnd I can't use the bot...09:58
willys_noestajenda: yes... thats why I said that "I think" that the ubuntu-es members are the ops...09:59
mneptokdid i wake up in #ubuntu-es-politics? ;)09:59
elkbuntuthere does need to be a separation of spainish country locoteam and spanish language locoteam09:59
willys_noestaI can't remember (too much time in front of the pc has fried my brain)09:59
naliothwillys_noesta: you don't look like you are sleeping  :P09:59
willys_noestanalioth: jenda woke me up :-P10:00
willys_noestaelkbuntu: thats why #ubuntu-lat is for...10:00
elkbuntuoh? i thought that was latvia or something :10:00
willys_noestaanyway we have a friend thats not hispanic-latinamerican... but he can understand-speak spanish10:01
willys_noesta*that's10:01
willys_noestaelkbuntu: nope. XDD10:01
willys_noestawell...10:01
willys_noestaNow that jenda is gone I'll go to sleep...10:01
willys_noestanight everyone...10:01
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mneptoki think i can actually feel distro-tester making me more stupid.11:49
mneptokit stings.11:49
GazzaKhehe11:49
mneptoklet me tell you, the thought of the world's economy depending on the likes of him when i'm retired doesn't let me sleep well at night.11:50
GazzaKdon't retire then, commit harrikarri before11:51
mneptok"OMFG this tactical nuclear launch computer SUXXXXZ0RZ you can't play games on it!!11!1!11!!11"11:52
tonyyarussoahahahahahah11:52
tonyyarussoMaybe the red button lets you get a cool cloak?11:52
mneptokyeah. "glows.like.an.august.morning.in.nagasaki.jp"11:53
GazzaKlol11:55
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elkbuntuhaha11:56
GazzaKif it sounds like a troll, looks like a troll and acts like a troll, what is it?11:57
robnot a discussion meant for this channel perhaps?11:58
tonyyarussoA goat!12:02
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jendatonyyarusso: ping12:04
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tonyyarussojenda: pong12:05
robjenda: btw I was all set to send that book a few days ago, and the morning of the day I was going to send it I busted my knee, and thus cannot drive to post office12:06
jendaow :(12:08
jendarob: I don't mind - I don't even remember who does :)12:08
jendatonyyarusso: nevermind, needed to know if I was in here.12:08
jendaI've got 30s lag _again_ :(12:08
tonyyarussoah12:08
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gnomefreaknormal dsl bandwidth in US is what 100mb?12:44
GazzaKlol12:44
tonyyarussono idea12:45
jenda1024 kbit/s is standard home-use dsl12:46
jendamight be 2048 in the states nowadays.12:46
=== gnomefreak thinking of spending the extra 10-15 dollars for it. someone got online this morning and i seem to have connection maxed out they couldnt even bring up a webpage
=== gnomefreak running about 28 kbps between 2 downloads
gnomefreakcombined12:47
=== gnomefreak will check to make sure in 3 hours maybe 4
=== jenda thinks that's probably 28 kB/s = 184 kb/s
=== gnomefreak getting better download times running 2 than i get with 1 (if you combine the 2)
gnomefreakat points im up over 30ish12:51
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Seveas@schedule02:14
UbugtuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 07 Feb 12:00: Edubuntu02:14
gnomefreakSeveas: our meeting tomorrow in here?02:15
Seveasyeah02:15
gnomefreakk02:15
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elkbuntuour meeting isnt in the meeting tracker thingie?02:20
tonyyarussono02:22
elkbuntus/our/why isnt our/ :02:22
tonyyarussoBecause that's only for -meeting, and apparently it's here, most likely in case the TB goes over an hour?02:23
=== gnomefreak brb god i hope this works :(
elkbuntugnomefreak, your download?02:24
gnomefreakelkbuntu: yeah wrong md5 again02:25
elkbuntu:(02:25
gnomefreakelkbuntu: trying to use rsync to fix02:25
gnomefreaki forgot the -aaff or whatever the flags are :(02:25
=== tonyyarusso thinks you should have spent the $10 after all
gnomefreaklol02:26
=== gnomefreak thinks i have a chance this time :)
apokryphosSeveas: aha, you're around :)03:27
apokryphosany chance of an upload fix for those changes pretty please? :P03:27
somerville32lies03:27
Seveasapokryphos, no03:27
Seveasmaybe tonight03:27
apokryphosthey're all working so nicely in Ubugtu; I'm jealous ;-)03:28
Seveashehe03:29
SeveasI still have to fix Encyclopedia and I'm doing the Ubuntu course now03:30
apokryphosbut why not just upload Bugtracker changes? :P03:31
apokryphoshow is Geneva so far, by the way?03:31
Seveasbecause I'm stupid and did not commit the fixes before starting on Encyclopeida03:32
Seveasgeneva is cold :)03:32
GazzaKmade a snowman?03:32
Seveasnot yet03:32
Seveasnot enough snow03:32
somerville32seveas: You're doing a Ubuntu course? Cool :)03:32
apokryphossurely you can just commit them now, though, right? Completely seperate plugin03:32
apokryphoshe's going to be a super Ubuntu certified professional ;-)03:32
Seveascan you commit single files with bzr?03:33
somerville32Yup03:33
GazzaKUCSE?03:33
SeveasUCP03:33
GazzaK:p03:33
apokryphosyou must tell us of all the secret ongoings there once you're back03:33
apokryphosSeveas: yeah, I'm sure you can.03:33
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somerville32Seveas won a prize a while back for doing so well03:34
somerville32Teddy bears03:34
apokryphossome more info: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-certified-professional-certification.html03:34
gnomefreakits was a tux i thought03:34
apokryphosor here, better: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro03:34
apokryphosall about administration and networking I see; not my strong points :P03:35
GazzaKI'm mostly done on my MCSE steps, but I feel so dirty03:36
apokryphosI've done my GCSEs...03:36
GazzaKapokryphos, awwww03:36
apokryphoswell, and A-levels, and half a degree. Part A.03:37
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Seeker`hmm03:43
tonyyarussocerts are expensive, no?03:50
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gnomefreaknixternal: got a sec?04:33
Seveasjenda/nalioth/rob: please cloak welshbyte04:43
gnomefreakSeveas: what is the fridge list to request meeting dates or can i just ping someone04:44
apokryphosfridge-devel, though you might get some help in #ubuntu-fridge04:45
apokryphosspeaking of which, we have to put the IRC operator meeting event up, if not done already04:45
apokryphosubotu: calendar04:45
ubotucalendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event04:45
gnomefreakapokryphos: its in here04:45
apokryphoscool04:45
gnomefreakapokryphos: the other iso from last night md5 seems right :)04:46
gnomefreakjust waiting for rsync to finish the first one04:46
apokryphoshm, it doesn't appear to be there04:46
apokryphoscool04:46
SportChickSeveas: /ubuntu/member/* ?04:47
SeveasSportChick, ?04:47
SportChickfor welshbyte?04:48
Seveasyeah, but why would you want to know =(04:48
Seveas=(04:48
Seveasargh04:48
Seveas=)04:48
Seveasstupid swiss keyboard!04:48
tonyyarussoahaha04:48
SportChickheh, i am on staff too04:48
Seveasah ok04:49
Seveasgood to know, more people to poke04:49
Seveaswe need a !staff factoid :)04:49
tonyyarussoThat could probably be arranged...04:49
SportChickheh04:49
SportChickso yes?04:49
Seveasyes, ubuntu/member/welshbyte04:49
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SportChickSeveas: done04:52
Seveasgracias04:53
SportChicksorry for the confusion :)04:53
Seveasnp, always nice to have more staff around04:53
SportChickheh04:53
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apokryphosSportChick: you weren't being automatically +v because of no freenode cloak, but will be now ;-)04:54
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jendahehe04:54
=== tonyyarusso wonders why someone would use the nick 'troll'...
SportChickapokryphos: np - I'm stealthy :)04:54
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SportChickjenda: which class?04:54
jendaSportChick: Roman Law.04:55
jendaSportChick: and European/USA legal history tomorrow.04:55
tonyyarussogroossss04:56
jenda:(04:57
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SportChickjenda: so are you pre-law or is that part of your normal legal studies there?04:58
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apokryphos[16:09:05]  <Kubuntu|Slave_> BITCH UNBEN ME OR I WILL FUCK THIS CHAN UP!05:14
apokryphos[16:09:14]  <Kubuntu|Slave_> U DONT KNOW WHO U FUCKIN WITAH BOY05:14
apokryphosin an /msg after he got a +q in #kubuntu05:14
gnomefreakkids :(05:15
apokryphosneedless to say, after those very bad threats I of course unbanned him05:15
GazzaKsorry apokryphos I do not understand, can you translate?05:16
GazzaKunben?05:16
GazzaKwitah?05:16
apokryphosBig Ben, the clock05:16
gnomefreakunban05:16
nixternalhaha apokryphos05:16
apokryphosor the bell, even :O05:16
gnomefreakwith05:16
nixternalgnomefreak: what did you need about an hour ago?05:17
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gnomefreaknixternal: a meeting on fridge if you have time05:17
gnomefreakput *05:17
nixternalsure, date, time, local, and agenda?05:17
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings?action=show05:17
apokryphosnixternal: also, the IRC operator meeting doesn't appear to be on the fridge05:17
apokryphosis that pending?05:17
gnomefreakfeb 5th 20:00 UTC in -meetings05:17
gnomefreak-s05:18
gnomefreakmozillateam05:18
nixternalapokryphos: date, time, local, and agenda? :)05:18
gnomefreakapokryphos: it shouldnt need to be since its not being held there05:18
gnomefreakheld in -meeting05:18
apokryphosit's being held in -meeting05:18
gnomefreakty nixternal05:18
apokryphosnixternal: all in /topic05:19
gnomefreaki thought here?05:19
gnomefreakatleast thats what seveas said earlier05:19
apokryphoshm05:19
Seveastb will last for more than an hour05:20
apokryphosok05:21
nixternaloh ya05:21
nixternalslightly05:21
nixternalyou need 18:00 to 20:00 to be safe05:21
nixternalTB will probably go from 20:00 to 23:59 :)05:21
gnomefreakwhat is the team councel mailiong list?05:21
Seveasnixternal, it's CC with that long meetings, TB have meetings of reasonable length05:23
tonyyarussoCC is measured in geological eras05:23
nixternalheh05:25
apokryphosSeveas: could you enable the bugSnarfer in -uk?05:26
Seveas@config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer05:26
UbugtuFalse05:26
Seveas@config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True05:26
apokryphosthanks 8)05:27
Seveas@config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True05:27
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tonyyarussoSeveas: When did you say we can expect the next code sync for the bots to LP?05:29
nixternalbugsnarfer = Ubugtu ?05:30
apokryphosnixternal: feature in the Ubugtu Bugtracker05:30
nixternalahhh05:30
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Seveastonyyarusso, tonight I hope05:30
tonyyarussoSeveas: Cool05:30
tonyyarussoand with that, I'm to class05:30
nixternalthat would be nice to have in chiloco channel, that way there i don't have to copy and paste bugs back and forth during our bug squashing nights05:31
nixternalneat, I wish I had a keylogger for that one, I just found another way to restart X by accidentally hitting a few keys at once05:32
apokryphosnixternal: it can be added for your channel :)05:32
apokryphoswhich allows you to talk about i.e. bug 1 and voila =)05:32
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105:32
Seveasnixternal, <ctrl><alt><bksp>05:32
nixternalya, but my fingers were no where near those keys :)05:33
Seveashehe05:33
Seveast u x05:33
nixternali do know i hit ctrl and possibly shift05:33
nixternalwhat came next I couldn't tell you05:33
apokryphosSeveas: Linus' password! How did you know?05:33
nixternalput that lil bug bastage in #ubuntu-chicago - that will cause the guys to work even harder05:34
Seveasnixternal, using xgl?05:34
nixternalChi LoCo is my very own sweatshop, on IRC05:34
nixternalno no Seveas, I stay away from that composite stuff :)05:34
nixternalI like stability, although that restart didn't look to stable :)05:35
gnomefreakok that was very very strange :(05:37
gnomefreakfirefox told me i reached my download limit :(  im still able to download updates05:38
nixternalheh05:38
nixternaluse Konqueror :)05:38
gnomefreaklol05:38
gnomefreaki was thinking of going with rsync after updates are done05:38
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nixternallet me guess Seveas is the one to put Ubugtu in my channel too ;p05:40
gnomefreakyes05:41
gnomefreakhes the only one that can05:41
apokryphosnixternal: yeah05:43
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apokryphosLjL: talk about annoying07:47
LjLapokryphos: definitely, though i was also kind of sarcastic with the last sentence07:49
LjLbut i'm sure that went totally over his head anyway07:49
LjLapokryphos: can you login to the bantracker?07:51
apokryphosnope07:52
LjLapokryphos: uhm, i managed to now07:52
LjL"ljl" as login name, as in launchpad.net/~ljl07:52
apokryphosthe page didn't even load for me, though it does load+work now07:53
LjLi don't remember what that used to be, but i guess LorenzoJLucchini... anyway, not ljl, since konq always logged inn automatically07:53
apokryphoshah, he was the really abusive guy from earlier today07:54
apokryphosthat explains a lot07:54
LjLi see =)07:54
LjLexpect pms...07:54
apokryphoshasn't sent me any yet, sent quite a few last time07:58
gnomefreakhes gonna keep evading the bans08:00
LjLi'm feeling trollish today, perhaps i'd better stay silent08:04
LjLi can't stand people's "always" and "nevers" though lately08:04
gnomefreak@schedule08:21
UbugtuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team08:21
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ToHellWithGAubotu barfed a little bit.  i did '/msg ubotu please tell ToHellWithGA about gsnes9x feisty' and got the following: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/33213508:22
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apokryphostold him it's because he's mixing with !tell (which is for factoids) and !info, but I guess that could be a wish on LP08:26
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willys_fueguinogood afternoon everyone...08:56
PriceChildapokryphos, I dare you to file a bug :)08:56
apokryphosI don't really care about it, so I won't ;-)08:57
PriceChildchicken :)08:58
FairLiteapokryphos: but tell works for packages too09:08
FairLiteone just needs to refrain from using 'info'09:08
apokryphosah, that is a bug09:15
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ubotuIn #ubuntu-chicago, manchicken said: ubotu: Beer is a refreshing beverage that is beneficial for heart health, social situations, and hacking.09:20
willys_fueguinoX'D09:22
willys_fueguinohahahhahhaha09:22
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gnomefreakbear and hacking dont mix :(09:34
gnomefreakbeer even09:34
TheSheepgnomefreak: it used to be like that for me: "sober=4h writing code, 1h debugging, drunk=1h writing code, 2h debugging" ;)09:35
gnomefreakthats about right09:35
TheSheepyou're still 2h forward :)09:36
FairLitewell bears don't mix well either, unless you've got a sturdy computer09:36
willys_fueguinoXDDDD09:36
willys_fueguinommm.... smoking some putt and coding IS a good mix ;-)09:36
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somerville32eww09:37
willys_fueguinoXD09:38
willys_fueguinodon't listen to me.... I'm crazy trying to get my kubuntu to work again...09:39
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gnomefreakok now WTF do i do :(10:01
somerville32Triage bugs! L(10:03
somerville32*:)10:03
gnomefreaknot really10:05
gnomefreaknixternal: you around maybe?10:05
gnomefreakjenda: you?10:06
gnomefreakwait a minute10:06
gnomefreaksomerville32: you!!!! your head of UWN right?10:06
somerville32Yes.10:06
gnomefreaksomerville32: do you remember posting about a scribus team meeting10:07
somerville32Yes.10:07
gnomefreakyou need to retract it10:07
somerville32lol10:07
gnomefreakto have a meeting in -meeting it has to be posted to fridge10:07
FairLite... what the heck is going on10:08
gnomefreakmy meeting is already there for that time spot im informed10:08
FairLitewhat about the ops meeting by the way, in the end10:08
gnomefreakFairLite: in here10:08
apokryphosFairLite: /topic10:08
FairLiteapokryphos: that doesn't say where it's held10:09
FairLitebut ok10:09
apokryphosit does, follow the link10:09
gnomefreaksomerville32: what time was thier meeting?10:09
somerville32February 5th, 2007, at 8 PM UTC in #ubuntu-meeting10:10
gnomefreakofcourse why would it not be the same time10:10
gnomefreak1st meeting?10:11
somerville32I dunno10:11
somerville32I'm guessing10:11
gnomefreakdo you happen to know the exact name of team by chance?10:12
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FairLitewhat exactly do you do if someone comes to appeal a ban or be generally vocal about something right in the middle of the ops meeting?10:13
gnomefreakFairLite: we will play it by ear10:13
gnomefreak.win 410:19
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gnomefreaksomerville32: do you remember when that letter was sent out?10:20
gnomefreakthey have 2 people :(10:20
somerville32gnomefreak, The UWN was sent out Saturday night, I think10:21
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gnomefreaknalioth: sit10:22
naliothsorry.10:22
gnomefreaklol its ok10:22
=== gnomefreak says they need to come up with a different time or a differnt place but i will think abou ti
gnomefreakabout it10:23
=== gnomefreak finds it hard to believe a 2 person team without a LP page cant meet in thier own channel or come up with a different time. its easier to change 2 people than it is 2 dozen :(
gnomefreakbrb smoke10:24
gnomefreak@schedule10:37
UbugtuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team10:37
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gnomefreaksomerville32: can you reprint with a different channel to go to?10:57
somerville32gnomefreak, Just redirect people as they arrive?10:57
somerville32I can change the wiki copy but I can't resend the UWN10:58
FairLiteset an on-join notice11:00
gnomefreakhmmmm that might work11:01
gnomefreakill talk to Seveas tomorrow or tonight if i see him to find best way out of this11:01
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gnomefreakdamn11:02
gnomefreakoh11:02
FairLite!seen seveas11:02
gnomefreakwth11:02
ubotuI last saw Seveas (n=dennis@ubuntu/member/seveas) 5h 22m 35s ago, quiting: "Leaving"11:02
gnomefreaknalioth: you are here right?11:02
naliothgnomefreak: somewhat11:04
naliothwhat's up?11:04
FairLitei don't understand how web services that ask for password can give you "security" questions like "what's your mother's maiden name"11:05
naliothanyone familiar with the innards of thunderbird?11:05
gnomefreaknalioth: talk with Seeker` on making thier team official #ubuntu-team11:05
Seeker`lo nalioth11:05
naliothwhat now?11:06
Seeker`i am interested in starting an ubuntu team11:06
Seeker`and would like some advice as to what needs to be done11:06
gnomefreaki told them to add staff to access but thats about it11:07
naliothwhat will the team be for?11:12
Seeker`the team will be ubuntu-scribes11:12
Seeker`we will be trying to coordinate an effort to improve the logging  / summaries of the various meetings that go on11:13
Seeker`partly by using the bot i have written to summarise the meetings11:14
Seeker`then produce minutes of the meetings, so that there is a consistent history of meetings11:14
gnomefreakwouldnt it be easier just to get the bot to be official if thats even possible since there are 3 logging bots already in #ubuntu-* channels11:17
Seeker`it doesn't just log the meeting11:17
Seeker`if people tag what they say, it pulls out the important bits11:18
=== nalioth steams (on a wholly different subject)
gnomefreakwell before you can get any bot in #ubuntu channels you need to see seveas11:19
Seeker`we wnat to see if we can get enough support to make it possible firfst11:19
Seeker`and find out exactly what we need to do11:19
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Seeker`nalioth: What do we have to do?11:25
naliothSeeker`: do you have a channel?11:26
Seeker`yes11:26
Seeker`i have just registered it11:26
naliothare you subscribed to the ubuntu-irc list?11:27
Seeker`no11:27
Seeker`i have now subscribed11:30
naliothyou might want to float the idea there first11:31
Seeker`what exactly is that list for?11:32
tonyyarussoWhat ideas are we having now?11:34
Seeker`tonyyarusso: Forming a team to help log / summarise meetings11:36
tonyyarussoSeeker`: Ah - I think I saw something about that.11:36
Seeker`it was mentioned in UWN11:37
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willys_fueguino2/action se est preparando para reinstalar kubuntu dapper / is preparing himself to reinstall kubuntu dapper11:39
=== willys_fueguino se est preparando para reinstalar kubuntu dapper / is preparing himself to reinstall kubuntu dapper
willys_fueguinohello???11:40
naliothwillys_fueguino: hi/hola11:40
tonyyarussoSeeker`: Aaaah - that'd be why then.  (/me is a contributor)11:40
naliothwillys_fueguino: howdy/como esta?11:40
willys_fueguinonalioth: hahahah bien ac ando...11:41
willys_fueguinopreparandome para reinstalar kubuntu dapper :-(11:41
Seeker`nalioth: what do i need to send? a request for permission to set up the team? a general poll  to see if people think its a good idea? or just notification that we are creating it?11:41
naliothi'd think the list would make a good sounding board11:41
naliothit's smaller then sounder (which you'll get ALL manner of results)11:42
tonyyarussoA "hey...had a thought, feedback?"11:42
gnomefreaknalioth: remove me from the team please11:42
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tonyyarusso?11:42
willys_fueguinoI *have* to ask: there's *any* spanish speaker freenode staffer??? (yes, I know that nalioth tries X'D)11:42
Seeker`nalioth: If i write an email, will you scan through it to make sure it contains everything you would expect?11:43
willys_fueguinojenda: it looks like it's not easy to join ubuntu team... I have some karma but very few... and to join ubuntu-spanish-translator teams looks harder than you thought....11:44
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gnomefreakwillys_fueguino: nothings that hard if you know what your doing11:45
willys_fueguinognomefreak: uffff.... I know what I'm doing but it's hard either... :-11:46
willys_fueguinonalioth: theres at least 1 freenode staffer that speaks spanish??11:46
gnomefreak@schedule11:47
UbugtuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team11:47
naliothbrazilian, willys_fueguino11:47
naliothwillys_fueguino: what is the trouble? answer in PM if you wish11:47
Seeker`nalioth: Do you mind if I PM you what I have written?11:49
naliothSeeker`: join ##todays_menu11:50
alindemanwillys_fueguino: Hablo un poquito ...11:54
willys_fueguinoalindeman: don't you need a spanish speaker staffer?? ;-)11:56
willys_fueguinoXDDD11:56
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alindemanHeh11:56
naliothalindeman: ja, mir auch11:57
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gnomefreakDBO: no cloak yet?12:01
gnomefreaklol12:01
DBOgnomefreak, not yet12:01
gnomefreaktho0ught jenda was working on it12:02
naliothDBO: cloak?12:05
DBOfor beryl12:05
=== gnomefreak kind of wants one too :)
gnomefreakmy hostmask isnt long enough12:06
naliothberyl?12:06
gnomefreak;)12:07
gnomefreakyess beryl12:07
willys_fueguinoufff....12:14
AmaranthDBO: You guys got the group registration completed?12:14
Amaranththat was fast12:14
willys_fueguinoI want a new cloack too12:15
DBOAmaranth, hmmm?12:15
willys_fueguino*cloak12:15
DBOAmaranth, we had completed the form months ago12:15
Amaranthhmm12:15
=== Amaranth wonders who to poke to check the status of his
gnomefreaknalioth: and or seveas i would think12:16
gnomefreakbut im not sure12:16
AmaranthDBO: btw, a "months" means it was fast ;)12:16
DBOi know12:16
Amarantherr, where did that a come from?12:16

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