[12:34] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: http://idjc.sourceforge.net if you wanted to check built in depends stuff
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> Those look prettier.  This might still be possible.
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> Pricey: also ^^
[12:35] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: cant right now i have major transfer going on so i can get back to ubuntu :)
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Righto.
[12:36] <gnomefreak> grab it from upstream unpack it and look in README and INSTALL files to see if that version is "needed"
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> check
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ther eis something like it in edgy
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-studio maybe?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:41] <gnomefreak> no version numbers i would say try it
[12:41] <gnomefreak> with edgys version
[12:42] <gnomefreak> whats wrong with josker(sp)  jonos baby
[12:42] <gnomefreak> iirc its a dj app
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> I have no idea.  I just do what they ask for.  ;)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> http://www.onlymeok.nildram.co.uk/download.html
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> Plus, now I kinda want to see if this works :P
[12:43] <gnomefreak> build it it looks fine its just ubuntus version that depedns on linc6
[12:43] <gnomefreak> libc6 even
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> Looks like it, yeah
[12:44] <gnomefreak> he may want to use ./configure --help to make sure he gets everything he wants
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> I don't see any reason this should need to go in a root level directory, do you?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> no
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> methinks we'll do home dir then
[12:47] <gnomefreak> you can always use make local  (it says how to do it on the link i gave above
[12:47] <gnomefreak> from that link it looked pretty much copy and paste :)
[12:49] <tonyyarusso> What would be the advantage of make local over --prefix=$HOME?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> nothing
[12:50] <nothlit> DESTDIR is recommended over prefix btw, from what i've read
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> nothlit: That's not mentioned in the config --help
[12:51] <nothlit> oh its for make, not configure
[12:51] <nothlit> depends on whether the package uses automake or not
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> ah
[12:52] <nothlit> it has a different syntax though, so be careful :P
[02:11] <LjL> i'm going crazy
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Trolls in ##php
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Spamming ones that is.
[02:13] <nalioth> the ##php ops are good at kick/banning
[02:14] <gnomefreak> its starting from the beginning :(
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> :(
[02:16] <gnomefreak> and i copied the files over too so i guess either i will continue or ill buy it
[02:23] <BoyBlundr> can someone check to see if I'm clean of the DCCexploit?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> where is the ops meeting on tuesday?
[02:52] <FairLite> on -meeting i suppose?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> FairLite: it would need to be posted on frdge and its not
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> No, it's here.
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> Most likely
[02:52] <FairLite> perhaps.
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> TB has -meeting the hour before, so it might still be taken
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> We'll probably have to play by ear and see when the time comes
[02:53] <gnomefreak> thats what i was thinking i just wanted to make sure incase im not here before the meeting
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> could be either really
[02:54] <FairLite> could make it both. one faction on a channel and the other in the other. would be less heated for sure
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> eh?
[02:54] <FairLite> nm
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ok im gonna let this thing run over night maybe they wont fail this time and im off to bed i think
[02:55] <FairLite> well on the plus side, it's not like somebody not being entirely sure about the time and location of an exam... i mean, it's just a /join :P
[02:55] <FairLite> (and no personal references here of course)
[03:55] <AmbientMst1> Here for the test
[03:55] <maxamillion> what test?
[03:55] <AmbientMst1> Ubuntu-read-topic
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> Exploit vulnerability no doubt
[03:56] <AmbientMst1> Mmhm, I didn't set it right on my Windows
[03:56] <maxamillion> AmbientMst1: i don't admin #ubuntu .... i am not aware :/
[03:56] <AmbientMst1> On my Ubuntu I did.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> AmbientMst1: /join #tonyyarusso please
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Nope
[06:36] <mneptok> anytime.
[06:36] <mneptok> baby, let's go.
[06:37] <mneptok> every day should be a hosiday.
[06:37] <mneptok> what the hess
[06:37] <mneptok> ahahahaha!
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> ???
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> good night mneptok how are you??
[06:42] <somerville32> I wish I was as cool as mneptok  :(
[06:44] <mneptok> ok, keyboard pronk fixed :)
[06:44] <willys_fueguino> hahahhahaha
[06:44] <mneptok> damned co-workers
[06:45] <mneptok> somerville32: you OK over there?
[06:45] <somerville32> mneptok, Most likely not :)
[06:47] <willys_fueguino> what time is over there??
[06:47] <somerville32> 01:47
[06:48] <Hobbsee> mneptok: blame the coworkers...
[06:49] <willys_fueguino> somerville32: where are you?? thats 1 hour less that over here :-O
[06:49] <somerville32> Canada
[06:49] <mneptok> Hobbsee: i don't think i moved my keys in my sleep.
[06:49] <mneptok> although, it could be a co-worker's SO, i s'pose
[06:50] <willys_fueguino> somerville32: you're almost in the north pole
[06:50] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[06:51] <somerville32> Umm... not really
[06:51] <somerville32> lol
[06:52] <mneptok> we'll see what tectonics do.
[06:52] <mneptok> or, *we* won't see it. unless it's fast. which would be bad.
[06:55] <willys_fueguino> somerville32: I'm from the south pole (almost) :-P
[06:55] <somerville32> Cool :)
[07:29] <Mez> defenestrates?
[07:30] <Madpilot> defenestrates = chucks out the window
[07:30] <willys_fueguino> *words
[07:30] <Mez> ah
[07:30] <Hobbsee> "the act of throwing someone or something out the window"
[07:31] <Mez> and I thought it was something kinky
[07:31] <Mez> darn
[07:31] <Madpilot> we need a defenestration @lart for the bot
[07:31] <somerville32> Mez: Whose saying it *can't* be kinky? : P
[07:31] <Mez> @lart add defenestrates $who
[07:31] <Hobbsee> Mez: you just wish it was.
[07:31] <Mez> @lart 36 Madpilot
[07:32] <Mez> Hobbsee, of course ;)
[07:32] <willys_fueguino> jajajjajajajajaj
[07:32] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[07:32] <Madpilot> @lart 36 Mez
[07:32] <Madpilot> perfect
[07:32] <Madpilot> almost as good as my all-time favourite:
[07:32] <Madpilot> @lart 28 Mez
[07:32] <somerville32> :D
[07:32] <somerville32> We should have a factoid honouring Hobbsee's greatness.
[07:33] <Mez> hmm... that says a lot about hobbsee
[07:37] <Hobbsee> pathetic sellotape
[07:37] <Mez> s/chanis/chains/
[07:38] <Mez> leave me alone.
[07:38] <Mez> I'm trying to clean
[07:38] <Mez> :P
[07:38] <Hobbsee> hah
[07:39] <somerville32> . . .
[07:40] <Mez> she was laughing at me
[07:40] <Mez> :(
[07:46] <mneptok> now if we could defenestrate the OS world.
[07:47] <Mez> mneptok, why ?
[07:47] <mneptok> bad pun. sorry.
[08:41] <willys_fueguino> theres someone here??
[08:42] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: are u there???
[08:45] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: yes?
[08:45] <willys_fueguino> oh sorry....
[08:45] <willys_fueguino> nevermind...
[08:46] <willys_fueguino> I had a missunderstood
[08:51] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: yes?
[08:52] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: sorry for that... just a missunderstood with someone...
[08:52] <nalioth> :)
[09:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, mwe said: !ops, GR33N3OX is being annoying
[09:19] <somerville32> lol
[09:20] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[09:20] <willys_fueguino> :-\
[09:20] <willys_fueguino> im not an #ubuntu op
[09:20] <willys_fueguino> I woudn't do any good :-P
[09:20] <willys_fueguino> I've always got dizzy on that channel...
[09:21] <Madpilot>  #ubuntu takes getting used to
[09:22] <willys_fueguino> Don't you never sleep??
[09:22] <willys_fueguino> lol
[09:22] <willys_fueguino> you have shifts or what??
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> Ah good, you got him :)  I was hoping he'd do something more warranting first...since just "annoying" is a little sketchy on it's own.
[09:22] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, you should have scrolled up, he was being more than merely 'annoying'
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I just woke up - gave him two warnings for language/idiocy and was waiting for strike three, but people who have been up know more :)
[09:23] <Madpilot> ya, he had your two warnings, that was enough
[09:24] <Madpilot> he had some warnings from non-ops too
[09:24] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, WTF are you doing waking up at 0400, anyway?
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Don't you hate it when you're getting something done, and suddenly look around and realize you passed out for five hours?
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Ummmmmmmmmmm
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> 03:15, technically.
[09:25] <Madpilot> sorry, got confused as to the diff. btwn this tz & eastern ;)
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> Although, that doesn't exactly help my case now does it?
[09:26] <willys_fueguino> 5:26 over here...
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> You know what I need?  Some magic time warping thing so that my friends can still be contactable on Gaim when I'm awake...
[09:32] <Madpilot> on that note, I need sleep. G'night, all. Don't let the trolls bite.
[09:34] <jenda> was that a public away, willys_noesta?
[09:35] <willys_noesta> sighs?? :-S
[09:35] <GazzaK> willys_noesta, jenda hates public away messages
[09:35] <willys_noesta> oh.. sorry for that
[09:35] <GazzaK> he has been known to kill for less :p
[09:35] <jenda> As do the IRC guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:35] <willys_noesta> I'll leave the channel when I do that for now on..
[09:36] <willys_noesta> sorry jenda
[09:36] <somerville32> lol
[09:36] <willys_noesta> btw... jenda you speak spanish??
[09:36] <jenda> willys_noesta: nope.
[09:36] <jenda> I can understand bits, however.
[09:36] <willys_noesta> jenda: Then what are you doing on #ubuntu-es?? you are an op there??
[09:37] <somerville32> GazzaK, Hiya :)
[09:37] <somerville32> 4:37am here
[09:37] <jenda> willys_noesta: nope - I'm helping the spanish team get together on some issues they've had.
[09:37] <GazzaK> you lie, that time is made up :p
[09:37] <willys_noesta> [05:35]  <GazzaK> he has been known to kill for less :p [09:37] <willys_noesta> jenda: channel problems??
[09:37] <jenda> willys_noesta: a meeting will be announced soon, you're very welcome to join :)
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> jenda: is that why the access list is private?
[09:37] <somerville32> er..
[09:37] <somerville32> lol
[09:37] <jenda> tonyyarusso: no, that's just one of it's problems.
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> gaah
[09:38] <willys_noesta> jenda: :-O
[09:38] <jenda> tonyyarusso: the loco leader looks like a power grabber to me, and it seems most of the team would agree.
[09:38] <willys_noesta> somerville32: I had that problem too.. but now I have to sleep urgently :-P
[09:38] <willys_noesta> jenda: power grabber??
[09:39] <willys_noesta> like extremly dictatorial??
[09:39] <jenda> like 'first come, first served' type of LoCo leader.
[09:39] <willys_noesta> :-O
[09:40] <jenda> the type that isn't willing or able to run a loco team as it should be run, and is where he is just because he came first.
[09:40] <willys_noesta> Who is the loco leader?? p3l1c4n0??
[09:40] <willys_noesta> XDDD
[09:40] <jenda> aaargh :)
[09:40] <jenda> aaargh!!!
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> bahaha
[09:41] <rob> hehe
[09:41] <willys_noesta> jenda: is a female??!!!
[09:41] <willys_noesta> :-O
[09:41] <jenda> willys_noesta: no
[09:41] <willys_noesta> hahahhaha
[09:41] <jenda> yes, you do, somerville32 :)
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Quick, all the nerds converge on jenda now!
[09:41] <rob> willys_noesta, don't listen to her
[09:41] <somerville32> lol
[09:41] <jenda> AAARGH!
[09:41] <willys_noesta> jenda: you had problems with pelicano?
[09:41] <jenda> /cs ultralart *
[09:41] <rob> willys_noesta, she's in a bad mood
[09:41] <willys_noesta> rob: X'D
[09:41] <jenda> willys_noesta: no - pelicano has a problem with me. ;)
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> rob: Maybe it's, you know..
[09:42] <willys_noesta> jenda: ufff... pelicano has a problem with democracy-the world...
[09:42] <willys_noesta> guys...
[09:42] <rob> tonyyarusso, no, I'm certain jenda is a chick
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> exactly
[09:42] <willys_noesta> you can't even imagine how much I like this community...
[09:43] <jenda> willys_noesta: I believe most of the locoteam would like to get rid of him - or that's the impression I had. It'll become obvious (or not) at the meeting, which should be announced at your mailing list today.
[09:43] <jenda> I'm not a chick - GazzaK would like me if I were :)
[09:43] <willys_noesta> jenda: I had problems with him since I joined IRc ubuntu community...
[09:44] <GazzaK> jenda, I like you as a bloke you know..... :p
[09:44] <willys_noesta> well... I didn't make any trouble for him 'cause I'm not that kind of person...
[09:44] <jenda> Obviously not the only one.
[09:44] <somerville32> I thought GazzaK was more inclined to like me :P
[09:44] <GazzaK> :-)
[09:44] <somerville32> :-)
[09:45] <jenda> GazzaK: what? You like somerville32 now?
[09:45] <GazzaK> lol
[09:45] <willys_noesta> Some people leave that channel to join #ubuntu-lat because in that channel they are SO estrict... I know that they most have rules... but not so "extreme" ones...
[09:45] <somerville32> jenda: It comes with the good looks ;] 
[09:45] <GazzaK> jenda, you can you know, share me!!!
[09:45] <willys_noesta> XDDD
[09:45] <willys_noesta> somerville32: LOL!
[09:45] <willys_noesta> XDD
[09:46] <jenda> GazzaK: no way - ever heard of Solomon and the baby? I'd rather give you up than have half of you...
[09:46] <jenda> (not to mention I'd rather have half of you than all of you)
[09:46] <willys_noesta> hahahhah
[09:46] <willys_noesta> X'D
[09:46] <GazzaK> you can have ALL of me jenda, just say the word :p
[09:46] <willys_noesta> :-O
[09:47] <willys_noesta> you should create the #ubuntu-ops-humorists channel :-P
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> Quick, who would be the channel owner of that one do you suppose?  Shall we vote in unison?
[09:48] <jenda> tonyyarusso: whoever joins first, unless Se veas declares otherwise.
[09:48] <GazzaK> I already have ##gazzak :-)  for when jenda feels like being rude :p
[09:48] <somerville32> How about ##jendas-backroom-poker-parlour?
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Well, technically, yeah
[09:48] <jenda> somerville32: sshhh :)
[09:48] <mneptok> poke her wherenow?
[09:49] <somerville32> : O
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> That's the one I was thinking of.
[09:49] <willys_noesta> jenda: what mailing list did you refer earlier??
[09:49] <jenda> tonyyarusso: unfortunately, I can't register any more channels :(
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> jenda: ...there's a limit?
[09:49] <jenda> willys_noesta: should be the -es list
[09:49] <somerville32> I can't join any more channels, lol
[09:49] <willys_noesta> the ubuntu-spanish-translators one??
[09:49] <jenda> tonyyarusso: yes
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: lamer
[09:49] <somerville32> jenda: Can you remove my lame channel limit? :P
[09:49] <jenda> willys_noesta: I don't know, I wont' be teh one sending it. Pochu will
[09:49] <jenda> somerville32: hmm
[09:49] <jenda> somerville32: nope
[09:49] <somerville32> s/lame/inhibiting
[09:49] <willys_noesta> jenda: 'cause I'm not on the ubuntu-es mailing list
[09:50] <jenda> willys_noesta: sign up, then :)
[09:50] <somerville32> jenda: But I'm a constructive contributor to the freenode community!
[09:50] <jenda> or just ask pochu later today.
[09:50] <jenda> somerville32: I can't, as in, I can't :)
[09:50] <GazzaK> eeek, daytime backup of 550GB is not such a good idea
[09:50] <willys_noesta> pochu??
[09:50] <somerville32> jenda: But you can poke the people who can
[09:50] <willys_noesta> oh I know him... he is a very nice person...
[09:50] <jenda> somerville32: I believe you already have, no?
[09:50] <somerville32> I bugged PhilKC?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> Can't nal_ioth do it?
[09:51] <somerville32> He said he'd look into it but I haven't heard from him
[09:51] <jenda> willys_noesta: I hope he will be the next LoCo leader, but then again, that's up to the team to decide.
[09:52] <jenda> willys_noesta: I suppose you aren't spanish, are you?
[09:52] <willys_noesta> jenda: nop. Argentinian...
[09:52] <jenda> thought so.
[09:52] <willys_noesta> jenda: I hope that too, and channel owner-"president"...
[09:53] <jenda> goes hand in hand.
[09:53] <willys_noesta> :-\
[09:54] <willys_noesta> with pochu in charge... the spanish community will grow up...
[09:54] <willys_noesta> (at least I think so)
[09:54] <jenda> I'm glad to hear that - my view as a foreign observer is limited :)
[09:55] <jenda> willys_noesta: once something happens with the -es team, I'm hoping to see a pan-hispanic language team spring up.
[09:55] <willys_noesta> the other day the ubuntu-es ops refused to take away a ban that I think it wasn't for me... 'cause the 2 ops that I talked too sayd "The one who did it should take it away"... they wash their hands..
[09:56] <willys_noesta> jenda: I was thinking of "try" to create a locoteam for latin-america/spanish speakers...
[09:56] <jenda> willys_noesta: cool.
[09:56] <jenda> don't even talk about ops in -es :?
[09:56] <jenda> *:/
[09:56] <willys_noesta> yeap. But right now that's only a project....
[09:57] <willys_noesta> jenda: uh??
[09:57] <willys_noesta> oh..
[09:57] <willys_noesta> nop
[09:57] <willys_noesta> the ops are the ubuntu-es members I think...
[09:58] <willys_noesta> I was trying to see tha access list to know who they were...
[09:58] <willys_noesta> but as you know its private :-\
[09:58] <jenda> it certainly shouldn't be, however, the ubuntu-es-freenode team in launchpad tells you who they are.
[09:58] <willys_noesta> And I can't use the bot...
[09:59] <willys_noesta> jenda: yes... thats why I said that "I think" that the ubuntu-es members are the ops...
[09:59] <mneptok> did i wake up in #ubuntu-es-politics? ;)
[09:59] <elkbuntu> there does need to be a separation of spainish country locoteam and spanish language locoteam
[09:59] <willys_noesta> I can't remember (too much time in front of the pc has fried my brain)
[09:59] <nalioth> willys_noesta: you don't look like you are sleeping  :P
[10:00] <willys_noesta> nalioth: jenda woke me up :-P
[10:00] <willys_noesta> elkbuntu: thats why #ubuntu-lat is for...
[10:00] <elkbuntu> oh? i thought that was latvia or something :
[10:01] <willys_noesta> anyway we have a friend thats not hispanic-latinamerican... but he can understand-speak spanish
[10:01] <willys_noesta> *that's
[10:01] <willys_noesta> elkbuntu: nope. XDD
[10:01] <willys_noesta> well...
[10:01] <willys_noesta> Now that jenda is gone I'll go to sleep...
[10:01] <willys_noesta> night everyone...
[11:49] <mneptok> i think i can actually feel distro-tester making me more stupid.
[11:49] <mneptok> it stings.
[11:49] <GazzaK> hehe
[11:50] <mneptok> let me tell you, the thought of the world's economy depending on the likes of him when i'm retired doesn't let me sleep well at night.
[11:51] <GazzaK> don't retire then, commit harrikarri before
[11:52] <mneptok> "OMFG this tactical nuclear launch computer SUXXXXZ0RZ you can't play games on it!!11!1!11!!11"
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> ahahahahahah
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> Maybe the red button lets you get a cool cloak?
[11:53] <mneptok> yeah. "glows.like.an.august.morning.in.nagasaki.jp"
[11:55] <GazzaK> lol
[11:56] <elkbuntu> haha
[11:57] <GazzaK> if it sounds like a troll, looks like a troll and acts like a troll, what is it?
[11:58] <rob> not a discussion meant for this channel perhaps?
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> A goat!
[12:04] <jenda> tonyyarusso: ping
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> jenda: pong
[12:06] <rob> jenda: btw I was all set to send that book a few days ago, and the morning of the day I was going to send it I busted my knee, and thus cannot drive to post office
[12:08] <jenda> ow :(
[12:08] <jenda> rob: I don't mind - I don't even remember who does :)
[12:08] <jenda> tonyyarusso: nevermind, needed to know if I was in here.
[12:08] <jenda> I've got 30s lag _again_ :(
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> ah
[12:44] <gnomefreak> normal dsl bandwidth in US is what 100mb?
[12:44] <GazzaK> lol
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> no idea
[12:46] <jenda> 1024 kbit/s is standard home-use dsl
[12:46] <jenda> might be 2048 in the states nowadays.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> combined
[12:51] <gnomefreak> at points im up over 30ish
[02:14] <Seveas> @schedule
[02:14] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 07 Feb 12:00: Edubuntu
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Seveas: our meeting tomorrow in here?
[02:15] <Seveas> yeah
[02:15] <gnomefreak> k
[02:20] <elkbuntu> our meeting isnt in the meeting tracker thingie?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> no
[02:22] <elkbuntu> s/our/why isnt our/ :
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> Because that's only for -meeting, and apparently it's here, most likely in case the TB goes over an hour?
[02:24] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, your download?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: yeah wrong md5 again
[02:25] <elkbuntu> :(
[02:25] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: trying to use rsync to fix
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i forgot the -aaff or whatever the flags are :(
[02:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:27] <apokryphos> Seveas: aha, you're around :)
[03:27] <apokryphos> any chance of an upload fix for those changes pretty please? :P
[03:27] <somerville32> lies
[03:27] <Seveas> apokryphos, no
[03:27] <Seveas> maybe tonight
[03:28] <apokryphos> they're all working so nicely in Ubugtu; I'm jealous ;-)
[03:29] <Seveas> hehe
[03:30] <Seveas> I still have to fix Encyclopedia and I'm doing the Ubuntu course now
[03:31] <apokryphos> but why not just upload Bugtracker changes? :P
[03:31] <apokryphos> how is Geneva so far, by the way?
[03:32] <Seveas> because I'm stupid and did not commit the fixes before starting on Encyclopeida
[03:32] <Seveas> geneva is cold :)
[03:32] <GazzaK> made a snowman?
[03:32] <Seveas> not yet
[03:32] <Seveas> not enough snow
[03:32] <somerville32> seveas: You're doing a Ubuntu course? Cool :)
[03:32] <apokryphos> surely you can just commit them now, though, right? Completely seperate plugin
[03:32] <apokryphos> he's going to be a super Ubuntu certified professional ;-)
[03:33] <Seveas> can you commit single files with bzr?
[03:33] <somerville32> Yup
[03:33] <GazzaK> UCSE?
[03:33] <Seveas> UCP
[03:33] <GazzaK> :p
[03:33] <apokryphos> you must tell us of all the secret ongoings there once you're back
[03:33] <apokryphos> Seveas: yeah, I'm sure you can.
[03:34] <somerville32> Seveas won a prize a while back for doing so well
[03:34] <somerville32> Teddy bears
[03:34] <apokryphos> some more info: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-certified-professional-certification.html
[03:34] <gnomefreak> its was a tux i thought
[03:34] <apokryphos> or here, better: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro
[03:35] <apokryphos> all about administration and networking I see; not my strong points :P
[03:36] <GazzaK> I'm mostly done on my MCSE steps, but I feel so dirty
[03:36] <apokryphos> I've done my GCSEs...
[03:36] <GazzaK> apokryphos, awwww
[03:37] <apokryphos> well, and A-levels, and half a degree. Part A.
[03:43] <Seeker`> hmm
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> certs are expensive, no?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> nixternal: got a sec?
[04:43] <Seveas> jenda/nalioth/rob: please cloak welshbyte
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Seveas: what is the fridge list to request meeting dates or can i just ping someone
[04:45] <apokryphos> fridge-devel, though you might get some help in #ubuntu-fridge
[04:45] <apokryphos> speaking of which, we have to put the IRC operator meeting event up, if not done already
[04:45] <apokryphos> ubotu: calendar
[04:45] <ubotu> calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[04:45] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: its in here
[04:45] <apokryphos> cool
[04:46] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: the other iso from last night md5 seems right :)
[04:46] <gnomefreak> just waiting for rsync to finish the first one
[04:46] <apokryphos> hm, it doesn't appear to be there
[04:46] <apokryphos> cool
[04:47] <SportChick> Seveas: /ubuntu/member/* ?
[04:47] <Seveas> SportChick, ?
[04:48] <SportChick> for welshbyte?
[04:48] <Seveas> yeah, but why would you want to know =(
[04:48] <Seveas> =(
[04:48] <Seveas> argh
[04:48] <Seveas> =)
[04:48] <Seveas> stupid swiss keyboard!
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> ahaha
[04:48] <SportChick> heh, i am on staff too
[04:49] <Seveas> ah ok
[04:49] <Seveas> good to know, more people to poke
[04:49] <Seveas> we need a !staff factoid :)
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> That could probably be arranged...
[04:49] <SportChick> heh
[04:49] <SportChick> so yes?
[04:49] <Seveas> yes, ubuntu/member/welshbyte
[04:52] <SportChick> Seveas: done
[04:53] <Seveas> gracias
[04:53] <SportChick> sorry for the confusion :)
[04:53] <Seveas> np, always nice to have more staff around
[04:53] <SportChick> heh
[04:54] <apokryphos> SportChick: you weren't being automatically +v because of no freenode cloak, but will be now ;-)
[04:54] <jenda> hehe
[04:54] <SportChick> apokryphos: np - I'm stealthy :)
[04:54] <SportChick> jenda: which class?
[04:55] <jenda> SportChick: Roman Law.
[04:55] <jenda> SportChick: and European/USA legal history tomorrow.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> groossss
[04:57] <jenda> :(
[04:57] <jenda> *out
[04:58] <SportChick> jenda: so are you pre-law or is that part of your normal legal studies there?
[05:14] <apokryphos> [16:09:05]  <Kubuntu|Slave_> BITCH UNBEN ME OR I WILL FUCK THIS CHAN UP!
[05:14] <apokryphos> [16:09:14]  <Kubuntu|Slave_> U DONT KNOW WHO U FUCKIN WITAH BOY
[05:14] <apokryphos> in an /msg after he got a +q in #kubuntu
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kids :(
[05:15] <apokryphos> needless to say, after those very bad threats I of course unbanned him
[05:16] <GazzaK> sorry apokryphos I do not understand, can you translate?
[05:16] <GazzaK> unben?
[05:16] <GazzaK> witah?
[05:16] <apokryphos> Big Ben, the clock
[05:16] <gnomefreak> unban
[05:16] <nixternal> haha apokryphos
[05:16] <apokryphos> or the bell, even :O
[05:16] <gnomefreak> with
[05:17] <nixternal> gnomefreak: what did you need about an hour ago?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> nixternal: a meeting on fridge if you have time
[05:17] <gnomefreak> put *
[05:17] <nixternal> sure, date, time, local, and agenda?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings?action=show
[05:17] <apokryphos> nixternal: also, the IRC operator meeting doesn't appear to be on the fridge
[05:17] <apokryphos> is that pending?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> feb 5th 20:00 UTC in -meetings
[05:18] <gnomefreak> -s
[05:18] <gnomefreak> mozillateam
[05:18] <nixternal> apokryphos: date, time, local, and agenda? :)
[05:18] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: it shouldnt need to be since its not being held there
[05:18] <gnomefreak> held in -meeting
[05:18] <apokryphos> it's being held in -meeting
[05:18] <gnomefreak> ty nixternal
[05:19] <apokryphos> nixternal: all in /topic
[05:19] <gnomefreak> i thought here?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> atleast thats what seveas said earlier
[05:19] <apokryphos> hm
[05:20] <Seveas> tb will last for more than an hour
[05:21] <apokryphos> ok
[05:21] <nixternal> oh ya
[05:21] <nixternal> slightly
[05:21] <nixternal> you need 18:00 to 20:00 to be safe
[05:21] <nixternal> TB will probably go from 20:00 to 23:59 :)
[05:21] <gnomefreak> what is the team councel mailiong list?
[05:23] <Seveas> nixternal, it's CC with that long meetings, TB have meetings of reasonable length
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> CC is measured in geological eras
[05:25] <nixternal> heh
[05:26] <apokryphos> Seveas: could you enable the bugSnarfer in -uk?
[05:26] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer
[05:26] <Ubugtu> False
[05:26] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[05:27] <apokryphos> thanks 8)
[05:27] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-uk plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: When did you say we can expect the next code sync for the bots to LP?
[05:30] <nixternal> bugsnarfer = Ubugtu ?
[05:30] <apokryphos> nixternal: feature in the Ubugtu Bugtracker
[05:30] <nixternal> ahhh
[05:30] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, tonight I hope
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Cool
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> and with that, I'm to class
[05:31] <nixternal> that would be nice to have in chiloco channel, that way there i don't have to copy and paste bugs back and forth during our bug squashing nights
[05:32] <nixternal> neat, I wish I had a keylogger for that one, I just found another way to restart X by accidentally hitting a few keys at once
[05:32] <apokryphos> nixternal: it can be added for your channel :)
[05:32] <apokryphos> which allows you to talk about i.e. bug 1 and voila =)
[05:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[05:32] <Seveas> nixternal, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[05:33] <nixternal> ya, but my fingers were no where near those keys :)
[05:33] <Seveas> hehe
[05:33] <Seveas> t u x
[05:33] <nixternal> i do know i hit ctrl and possibly shift
[05:33] <nixternal> what came next I couldn't tell you
[05:33] <apokryphos> Seveas: Linus' password! How did you know?
[05:34] <nixternal> put that lil bug bastage in #ubuntu-chicago - that will cause the guys to work even harder
[05:34] <Seveas> nixternal, using xgl?
[05:34] <nixternal> Chi LoCo is my very own sweatshop, on IRC
[05:34] <nixternal> no no Seveas, I stay away from that composite stuff :)
[05:35] <nixternal> I like stability, although that restart didn't look to stable :)
[05:37] <gnomefreak> ok that was very very strange :(
[05:38] <gnomefreak> firefox told me i reached my download limit :(  im still able to download updates
[05:38] <nixternal> heh
[05:38] <nixternal> use Konqueror :)
[05:38] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:38] <gnomefreak> i was thinking of going with rsync after updates are done
[05:40] <nixternal> let me guess Seveas is the one to put Ubugtu in my channel too ;p
[05:41] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:41] <gnomefreak> hes the only one that can
[05:43] <apokryphos> nixternal: yeah
[07:47] <apokryphos> LjL: talk about annoying
[07:49] <LjL> apokryphos: definitely, though i was also kind of sarcastic with the last sentence
[07:49] <LjL> but i'm sure that went totally over his head anyway
[07:51] <LjL> apokryphos: can you login to the bantracker?
[07:52] <apokryphos> nope
[07:52] <LjL> apokryphos: uhm, i managed to now
[07:52] <LjL> "ljl" as login name, as in launchpad.net/~ljl
[07:53] <apokryphos> the page didn't even load for me, though it does load+work now
[07:53] <LjL> i don't remember what that used to be, but i guess LorenzoJLucchini... anyway, not ljl, since konq always logged inn automatically
[07:54] <apokryphos> hah, he was the really abusive guy from earlier today
[07:54] <apokryphos> that explains a lot
[07:54] <LjL> i see =)
[07:54] <LjL> expect pms...
[07:58] <apokryphos> hasn't sent me any yet, sent quite a few last time
[08:00] <gnomefreak> hes gonna keep evading the bans
[08:04] <LjL> i'm feeling trollish today, perhaps i'd better stay silent
[08:04] <LjL> i can't stand people's "always" and "nevers" though lately
[08:21] <gnomefreak> @schedule
[08:21] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team
[08:22] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu barfed a little bit.  i did '/msg ubotu please tell ToHellWithGA about gsnes9x feisty' and got the following: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/332135
[08:26] <apokryphos> told him it's because he's mixing with !tell (which is for factoids) and !info, but I guess that could be a wish on LP
[08:56] <willys_fueguino> good afternoon everyone...
[08:56] <PriceChild> apokryphos, I dare you to file a bug :)
[08:57] <apokryphos> I don't really care about it, so I won't ;-)
[08:58] <PriceChild> chicken :)
[09:08] <FairLite> apokryphos: but tell works for packages too
[09:08] <FairLite> one just needs to refrain from using 'info'
[09:15] <apokryphos> ah, that is a bug
[09:20] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-chicago, manchicken said: ubotu: Beer is a refreshing beverage that is beneficial for heart health, social situations, and hacking.
[09:22] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[09:22] <willys_fueguino> hahahhahhaha
[09:34] <gnomefreak> bear and hacking dont mix :(
[09:34] <gnomefreak> beer even
[09:35] <TheSheep> gnomefreak: it used to be like that for me: "sober=4h writing code, 1h debugging, drunk=1h writing code, 2h debugging" ;)
[09:35] <gnomefreak> thats about right
[09:36] <TheSheep> you're still 2h forward :)
[09:36] <FairLite> well bears don't mix well either, unless you've got a sturdy computer
[09:36] <willys_fueguino> XDDDD
[09:36] <willys_fueguino> mmm.... smoking some putt and coding IS a good mix ;-)
[09:37] <somerville32> eww
[09:38] <willys_fueguino> XD
[09:39] <willys_fueguino> don't listen to me.... I'm crazy trying to get my kubuntu to work again...
[10:01] <gnomefreak> ok now WTF do i do :(
[10:03] <somerville32> Triage bugs! L(
[10:03] <somerville32> *:)
[10:05] <gnomefreak> not really
[10:05] <gnomefreak> nixternal: you around maybe?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> jenda: you?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> wait a minute
[10:06] <gnomefreak> somerville32: you!!!! your head of UWN right?
[10:06] <somerville32> Yes.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> somerville32: do you remember posting about a scribus team meeting
[10:07] <somerville32> Yes.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> you need to retract it
[10:07] <somerville32> lol
[10:07] <gnomefreak> to have a meeting in -meeting it has to be posted to fridge
[10:08] <FairLite> ... what the heck is going on
[10:08] <gnomefreak> my meeting is already there for that time spot im informed
[10:08] <FairLite> what about the ops meeting by the way, in the end
[10:08] <gnomefreak> FairLite: in here
[10:08] <apokryphos> FairLite: /topic
[10:09] <FairLite> apokryphos: that doesn't say where it's held
[10:09] <FairLite> but ok
[10:09] <apokryphos> it does, follow the link
[10:09] <gnomefreak> somerville32: what time was thier meeting?
[10:10] <somerville32> February 5th, 2007, at 8 PM UTC in #ubuntu-meeting
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ofcourse why would it not be the same time
[10:11] <gnomefreak> 1st meeting?
[10:11] <somerville32> I dunno
[10:11] <somerville32> I'm guessing
[10:12] <gnomefreak> do you happen to know the exact name of team by chance?
[10:13] <FairLite> what exactly do you do if someone comes to appeal a ban or be generally vocal about something right in the middle of the ops meeting?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> FairLite: we will play it by ear
[10:19] <gnomefreak> .win 4
[10:20] <gnomefreak> somerville32: do you remember when that letter was sent out?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> they have 2 people :(
[10:21] <somerville32> gnomefreak, The UWN was sent out Saturday night, I think
[10:22] <gnomefreak> nalioth: sit
[10:22] <nalioth> sorry.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> lol its ok
[10:23] <gnomefreak> about it
[10:24] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[10:37] <gnomefreak> @schedule
[10:37] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team
[10:57] <gnomefreak> somerville32: can you reprint with a different channel to go to?
[10:57] <somerville32> gnomefreak, Just redirect people as they arrive?
[10:58] <somerville32> I can change the wiki copy but I can't resend the UWN
[11:00] <FairLite> set an on-join notice
[11:01] <gnomefreak> hmmmm that might work
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ill talk to Seveas tomorrow or tonight if i see him to find best way out of this
[11:02] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:02] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:02] <FairLite> !seen seveas
[11:02] <gnomefreak> wth
[11:02] <ubotu> I last saw Seveas (n=dennis@ubuntu/member/seveas) 5h 22m 35s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[11:02] <gnomefreak> nalioth: you are here right?
[11:04] <nalioth> gnomefreak: somewhat
[11:04] <nalioth> what's up?
[11:05] <FairLite> i don't understand how web services that ask for password can give you "security" questions like "what's your mother's maiden name"
[11:05] <nalioth> anyone familiar with the innards of thunderbird?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> nalioth: talk with Seeker` on making thier team official #ubuntu-team
[11:05] <Seeker`> lo nalioth
[11:06] <nalioth> what now?
[11:06] <Seeker`> i am interested in starting an ubuntu team
[11:06] <Seeker`> and would like some advice as to what needs to be done
[11:07] <gnomefreak> i told them to add staff to access but thats about it
[11:12] <nalioth> what will the team be for?
[11:12] <Seeker`> the team will be ubuntu-scribes
[11:13] <Seeker`> we will be trying to coordinate an effort to improve the logging  / summaries of the various meetings that go on
[11:14] <Seeker`> partly by using the bot i have written to summarise the meetings
[11:14] <Seeker`> then produce minutes of the meetings, so that there is a consistent history of meetings
[11:17] <gnomefreak> wouldnt it be easier just to get the bot to be official if thats even possible since there are 3 logging bots already in #ubuntu-* channels
[11:17] <Seeker`> it doesn't just log the meeting
[11:18] <Seeker`> if people tag what they say, it pulls out the important bits
[11:19] <gnomefreak> well before you can get any bot in #ubuntu channels you need to see seveas
[11:19] <Seeker`> we wnat to see if we can get enough support to make it possible firfst
[11:19] <Seeker`> and find out exactly what we need to do
[11:25] <Seeker`> nalioth: What do we have to do?
[11:26] <nalioth> Seeker`: do you have a channel?
[11:26] <Seeker`> yes
[11:26] <Seeker`> i have just registered it
[11:27] <nalioth> are you subscribed to the ubuntu-irc list?
[11:27] <Seeker`> no
[11:30] <Seeker`> i have now subscribed
[11:31] <nalioth> you might want to float the idea there first
[11:32] <Seeker`> what exactly is that list for?
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> What ideas are we having now?
[11:36] <Seeker`> tonyyarusso: Forming a team to help log / summarise meetings
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: Ah - I think I saw something about that.
[11:37] <Seeker`> it was mentioned in UWN
[11:39] <willys_fueguino> 2/action se est preparando para reinstalar kubuntu dapper / is preparing himself to reinstall kubuntu dapper
[11:40] <willys_fueguino> hello???
[11:40] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: hi/hola
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: Aaaah - that'd be why then.  (/me is a contributor)
[11:40] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: howdy/como esta?
[11:41] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: hahahah bien ac ando...
[11:41] <willys_fueguino> preparandome para reinstalar kubuntu dapper :-(
[11:41] <Seeker`> nalioth: what do i need to send? a request for permission to set up the team? a general poll  to see if people think its a good idea? or just notification that we are creating it?
[11:41] <nalioth> i'd think the list would make a good sounding board
[11:42] <nalioth> it's smaller then sounder (which you'll get ALL manner of results)
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> A "hey...had a thought, feedback?"
[11:42] <gnomefreak> nalioth: remove me from the team please
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> ?
[11:42] <willys_fueguino> I *have* to ask: there's *any* spanish speaker freenode staffer??? (yes, I know that nalioth tries X'D)
[11:43] <Seeker`> nalioth: If i write an email, will you scan through it to make sure it contains everything you would expect?
[11:44] <willys_fueguino> jenda: it looks like it's not easy to join ubuntu team... I have some karma but very few... and to join ubuntu-spanish-translator teams looks harder than you thought....
[11:45] <gnomefreak> willys_fueguino: nothings that hard if you know what your doing
[11:46] <willys_fueguino> gnomefreak: uffff.... I know what I'm doing but it's hard either... :-
[11:46] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: theres at least 1 freenode staffer that speaks spanish??
[11:47] <gnomefreak> @schedule
[11:47] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 30 Jan 20:00: Technical Board | 31 Jan 20:00: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00: Mozilla Team
[11:47] <nalioth> brazilian, willys_fueguino
[11:47] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: what is the trouble? answer in PM if you wish
[11:49] <Seeker`> nalioth: Do you mind if I PM you what I have written?
[11:50] <nalioth> Seeker`: join ##todays_menu
[11:54] <alindeman> willys_fueguino: Hablo un poquito ...
[11:56] <willys_fueguino> alindeman: don't you need a spanish speaker staffer?? ;-)
[11:56] <willys_fueguino> XDDD
[11:56] <alindeman> Heh
[11:57] <nalioth> alindeman: ja, mir auch
[12:01] <gnomefreak> DBO: no cloak yet?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:01] <DBO> gnomefreak, not yet
[12:02] <gnomefreak> tho0ught jenda was working on it
[12:05] <nalioth> DBO: cloak?
[12:05] <DBO> for beryl
[12:06] <gnomefreak> my hostmask isnt long enough
[12:06] <nalioth> beryl?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> yess beryl
[12:14] <willys_fueguino> ufff....
[12:14] <Amaranth> DBO: You guys got the group registration completed?
[12:14] <Amaranth> that was fast
[12:15] <willys_fueguino> I want a new cloack too
[12:15] <DBO> Amaranth, hmmm?
[12:15] <willys_fueguino> *cloak
[12:15] <DBO> Amaranth, we had completed the form months ago
[12:15] <Amaranth> hmm
[12:16] <gnomefreak> nalioth: and or seveas i would think
[12:16] <gnomefreak> but im not sure
[12:16] <Amaranth> DBO: btw, a "months" means it was fast ;)
[12:16] <DBO> i know
[12:16] <Amaranth> err, where did that a come from?