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troy_salefteris: if you want to use bitmaps in the svgs import them12:17
troy_susing the embedder.12:17
alefterishow i do that? till now i was doing File -> Import... But then i realised that when i remove the file, its gone from the svg too.. how can i make them stick together?12:19
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troy_salefteris: Let me look for you.02:28
troy_ssorry was napping :002:28
troy_sEFFECTS->IMAGES02:28
troy_sembed images02:28
troy_salefteris: ping02:28
alefterispong02:28
troy_s;)02:28
troy_salefteris: that work for you?02:31
alefteristhanks troy_s, its a rather wird place to have this option..02:31
alefterisyeap02:31
troy_swell it is an 'add on'02:31
troy_sbecause normally you don't embed a bitmap02:31
troy_sright into the svg02:32
troy_sbut the blur worked for you?02:32
troy_sby the way, if you keep that svn directory the recompile will take less time as you are only going to recompile and link the libraries that changed.02:32
alefterisyeah, http://imagebin.org/708002:32
alefterislooks cute02:33
troy_sthat was easy now wasn't it?02:33
troy_show come you have a bitmap in that???????02:33
troy_swhat portion of the image is a bitmap02:33
troy_syou shouldn't need any of it.02:33
alefterisfor the flag and the packground02:34
troy_soh lord...02:34
alefterishehe, i know02:34
troy_sfor the background -- use a circular grad02:34
troy_sfor the flag02:34
troy_sjust trace the bitmap using the inkscape tools02:34
troy_sit should trace very well.02:34
troy_sthen throw those bitmaps out of there!02:34
alefterisi didnt know you can trace bitmaps02:35
alefteris:)02:35
troy_slol02:35
troy_syes02:35
troy_sand there are a good deal of options02:35
troy_syou can actually trace photos, and if you do some pre-work magic, you can have them look very good.02:35
troy_scan you ship me the flag image?02:35
troy_si'll show you02:36
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coz_evening to all05:13
darkmatterhiya coz_05:14
coz_hey dude05:14
coz_what are you doing in ubuntu-artwork/05:14
darkmatterpat of the team05:15
coz_:)05:15
darkmatter*part05:15
coz_darkmatter, mm same here didn't see you on the list but no one saw me either:)05:15
darkmattercoz_, just got approached to join the other day05:15
coz_darkmatter, oh wonderful wel welcome good to see you here05:16
darkmatter:)05:16
coz_darkmatter, that means at least 2 of us will be talkning on here:)05:16
darkmatterhehe05:16
coz_darkmatter, generally is slow considering what has been happening with the art end of ubuntu05:17
darkmatterI'm just doing some rough outs on some asthetic refinement... just debating my textbox shadows atm05:17
darkmattercoz_ yeah05:17
darkmattercoz_ need your opinion on somefin... just a sec.. I'll take a screenie05:18
darkmattercoz_, http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmf3.png05:20
darkmattertext shadows05:20
coz_ok let me look :)05:20
darkmatterhow they look... yay or nay?05:21
darkmatteralso shifting the shadow/frame tones over to tango inspired aluminium05:21
coz_darkmatter, I guess yay becaue the text is very clear05:21
coz_of course you know how I feel about the slab menu :)05:22
darkmatterno.. I mean the shadows in the text box (at the top if the entry field)... did a slight drop shadow05:22
darkmatteryeah.. I know.. you hate the slab ;)05:23
coz_:)05:23
darkmatterdoes that softer aluminum shade look ok for the shadows?? (compare the text boxes in xchat to the outlines on the scrollies)05:24
darkmatteras in... which gray... the warmer hue or the cooler?05:25
coz_let me look again05:25
darkmatterk05:25
coz_yes I like the softer shade there. it isn't harsh to the eye and as far as warm or cool goes.. depends on the effect you want...if you want a shallower field then go warmer05:27
darkmatteraye... I thought the warmer too :)05:27
coz_darkmatter, well don't let me influence your decision either, iw ould rather have your vision  on your work :)05:28
darkmattergood... now that thats sorted I can redo the frames05:28
coz_ok :)05:28
darkmatterlol... its not influence... I just wanted to make sure I wasnt the only one who thot the aluminium gray looked better05:29
coz_darkmatter, no guy I think its looks more than fine, as long as you think it does then it will be fine :)05:30
coz_have to go for the moment be back a little later :)05:31
darkmatterthe frames (blue gray ugly crap around the user lists, etc) will use the same gray and the same 2pix corner... if you compare theme to the new outlines (the text shadows on the left) the new are much more balanced and aesthetically pleasing05:31
darkmatterbah05:31
darkmatterhmmm... still need to start work on the buttons n panel05:31
troy_swow chittery in here05:39
troy_sdarkmatter: are you working on a beryl theme?05:40
darkmatteryup... slowly. refining the gtk a first.05:41
troy_si see.05:42
darkmatteratm the beryls ugly... the button are just filler fron that amora thingy because I needed a place to click05:42
darkmatter;)05:42
troy_shave you tried farting around with metisse?05:43
darkmatteryup05:43
darkmatterits pretty neat05:43
darkmatterI like the "build your own windows" thing05:43
troy_si find it more interesting than the compiz/beryl simply because it seems to offer more useable elements05:43
troy_snot just garbage 'neat' stuff.05:44
darkmatterthats actually quite useful05:44
troy_sindeed.05:44
troy_sare you referring to the build your own tool palette elements?05:44
darkmatteryup... compiz n beryl are fine... but beryls mostly useless eyecandy05:44
darkmattertroy_s, yup05:44
troy_sexactly05:44
troy_sthe pager in metisse is far superior too05:45
troy_sin fact, dare i say, metisse seems to be the most well thought out direction for utilizing gl accell.05:45
troy_snot that i am sold on it until we can assure that every user can use it.05:45
troy_suntil that point, i find that software augmentations are probably the best route (along the lines of e17)05:45
troy_spingunz speaks very highly of you... where are you from?05:46
darkmatterCanada05:46
troy_swoot05:46
troy_sgood canadian kid.05:46
troy_s;)05:46
darkmatterbrb.. need coffeee05:46
troy_svancouver here.05:46
darkmatterw00t05:46
troy_swhere abouts darkmatter ?05:47
darkmatterahh.. south eastern Saskatchewan05:48
troy_ssaskatoon berries.05:49
troy_slol05:49
darkmatterlol05:50
darkmatterI used to live in saskatoon many moons ago05:50
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troy_sgreets msikma07:56
msikmahey troy07:57
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lapohi there11:18
andreasnhi lapo11:18
lapoyo andreasn11:19
andreasnhow are things?11:19
lapoandreasn: going fine, thanks, what about you?11:19
andreasneverythings good, currently doing sketches for a new client11:20
lapocool so your work is going fine11:21
andreasnand it's not the ordinary desktop-stuff that have been done a bazillion times before, so that's fun11:21
lapowhen you'll be as rich as mark lemme try your personal jet :-)11:21
darkmatterhmmm... some progess... opinions? http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/374334129/in/set-72157594488098254/   http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/374334127/in/set-72157594488098254/11:22
andreasnI'm doing ok on my incomes, but it's not as much as I would have hoped to11:22
andreasnBUT, I did get a radio airplane for my birthday from my brother-in-law!11:23
andreasntried it out yesterday, it was quite fun11:23
andreasndarkmatter: where did you get that sweet firefox icon?11:24
darkmatterahhh.... from the tango xp suff11:24
andreasnis it available in several sizes?11:25
darkmatteryup... it is now (fixed up and in my hicolor folder... also did the xpm for the windows and windowlist)11:26
andreasnhttp://www.darkt.net/tango/ , right?11:28
andreasnor, hm, that seems to be down11:29
darkmatterwas... it moved11:29
darkmatterone sec11:29
darkmatterandreasn, http://vertigosity.benpbrown.com/?page=start11:31
andreasnthanks!11:31
darkmatteryup11:31
darkmattersources r at http://tango.benpbrown.com/?page=dev&dev=source11:32
darkmatterits in there somewhere11:32
lapoandreasn: do you remember the garret's firefox themes url?11:33
andreasnI think it's up on addons.mozilla.com now11:33
laporeally?11:33
lapocool11:33
andreasnhttp://primates.ximian.com/~glesage/firefox/11:34
darkmatterindustrial+gilouche looks kinda neat on windows11:35
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andreasndarkmatter: hm, in what package is that ff-icon?11:57
andreasndarkmatter: I found hylke-fx in one folder, but that seems a bit unclearer11:58
darkmatterhmm... not sure...11:58
darkmatterbrb12:00
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lizardkinghello01:09
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lizardkingsbaush:  hi03:03
lizardkingsbaush : How are you?03:03
sbaushghghgh03:03
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klepasnp: Various Artists - Capricorn - 20 Hz04:06
klepasanyone awake?04:07
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Viper550anyone here?07:38
effraieyep07:41
Viper550okay then...07:44
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lizardking__Hi08:09
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drew1313hi all10:35
darkmatterhello10:37
drew1313my firest time here just kinda cheking it out10:38
darkmatterahhh... well.. welcome :)10:41
drew1313thank you...10:41
troy_sgreets all.10:42
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lizardkinghi11:45
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