[12:17] <troy_s> alefteris: if you want to use bitmaps in the svgs import them
[12:17] <troy_s> using the embedder.
[12:19] <alefteris> how i do that? till now i was doing File -> Import... But then i realised that when i remove the file, its gone from the svg too.. how can i make them stick together?
[02:28] <troy_s> alefteris: Let me look for you.
[02:28] <troy_s> sorry was napping :0
[02:28] <troy_s> EFFECTS->IMAGES
[02:28] <troy_s> embed images
[02:28] <troy_s> alefteris: ping
[02:28] <alefteris> pong
[02:28] <troy_s> ;)
[02:31] <troy_s> alefteris: that work for you?
[02:31] <alefteris> thanks troy_s, its a rather wird place to have this option..
[02:31] <alefteris> yeap
[02:31] <troy_s> well it is an 'add on'
[02:31] <troy_s> because normally you don't embed a bitmap
[02:32] <troy_s> right into the svg
[02:32] <troy_s> but the blur worked for you?
[02:32] <troy_s> by the way, if you keep that svn directory the recompile will take less time as you are only going to recompile and link the libraries that changed.
[02:32] <alefteris> yeah, http://imagebin.org/7080
[02:33] <alefteris> looks cute
[02:33] <troy_s> that was easy now wasn't it?
[02:33] <troy_s> how come you have a bitmap in that???????
[02:33] <troy_s> what portion of the image is a bitmap
[02:33] <troy_s> you shouldn't need any of it.
[02:34] <alefteris> for the flag and the packground
[02:34] <troy_s> oh lord...
[02:34] <alefteris> hehe, i know
[02:34] <troy_s> for the background -- use a circular grad
[02:34] <troy_s> for the flag
[02:34] <troy_s> just trace the bitmap using the inkscape tools
[02:34] <troy_s> it should trace very well.
[02:34] <troy_s> then throw those bitmaps out of there!
[02:35] <alefteris> i didnt know you can trace bitmaps
[02:35] <alefteris> :)
[02:35] <troy_s> lol
[02:35] <troy_s> yes
[02:35] <troy_s> and there are a good deal of options
[02:35] <troy_s> you can actually trace photos, and if you do some pre-work magic, you can have them look very good.
[02:35] <troy_s> can you ship me the flag image?
[02:36] <troy_s> i'll show you
[05:13] <coz_> evening to all
[05:14] <darkmatter> hiya coz_
[05:14] <coz_> hey dude
[05:14] <coz_> what are you doing in ubuntu-artwork/
[05:15] <darkmatter> pat of the team
[05:15] <coz_> :)
[05:15] <darkmatter> *part
[05:15] <coz_> darkmatter, mm same here didn't see you on the list but no one saw me either:)
[05:15] <darkmatter> coz_, just got approached to join the other day
[05:16] <coz_> darkmatter, oh wonderful wel welcome good to see you here
[05:16] <darkmatter> :)
[05:16] <coz_> darkmatter, that means at least 2 of us will be talkning on here:)
[05:16] <darkmatter> hehe
[05:17] <coz_> darkmatter, generally is slow considering what has been happening with the art end of ubuntu
[05:17] <darkmatter> I'm just doing some rough outs on some asthetic refinement... just debating my textbox shadows atm
[05:17] <darkmatter> coz_ yeah
[05:18] <darkmatter> coz_ need your opinion on somefin... just a sec.. I'll take a screenie
[05:20] <darkmatter> coz_, http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmf3.png
[05:20] <darkmatter> text shadows
[05:20] <coz_> ok let me look :)
[05:21] <darkmatter> how they look... yay or nay?
[05:21] <darkmatter> also shifting the shadow/frame tones over to tango inspired aluminium
[05:21] <coz_> darkmatter, I guess yay becaue the text is very clear
[05:22] <coz_> of course you know how I feel about the slab menu :)
[05:22] <darkmatter> no.. I mean the shadows in the text box (at the top if the entry field)... did a slight drop shadow
[05:23] <darkmatter> yeah.. I know.. you hate the slab ;)
[05:23] <coz_> :)
[05:24] <darkmatter> does that softer aluminum shade look ok for the shadows?? (compare the text boxes in xchat to the outlines on the scrollies)
[05:25] <darkmatter> as in... which gray... the warmer hue or the cooler?
[05:25] <coz_> let me look again
[05:25] <darkmatter> k
[05:27] <coz_> yes I like the softer shade there. it isn't harsh to the eye and as far as warm or cool goes.. depends on the effect you want...if you want a shallower field then go warmer
[05:27] <darkmatter> aye... I thought the warmer too :)
[05:28] <coz_> darkmatter, well don't let me influence your decision either, iw ould rather have your vision  on your work :)
[05:28] <darkmatter> good... now that thats sorted I can redo the frames
[05:28] <coz_> ok :)
[05:29] <darkmatter> lol... its not influence... I just wanted to make sure I wasnt the only one who thot the aluminium gray looked better
[05:30] <coz_> darkmatter, no guy I think its looks more than fine, as long as you think it does then it will be fine :)
[05:31] <coz_> have to go for the moment be back a little later :)
[05:31] <darkmatter> the frames (blue gray ugly crap around the user lists, etc) will use the same gray and the same 2pix corner... if you compare theme to the new outlines (the text shadows on the left) the new are much more balanced and aesthetically pleasing
[05:31] <darkmatter> bah
[05:31] <darkmatter> hmmm... still need to start work on the buttons n panel
[05:39] <troy_s> wow chittery in here
[05:40] <troy_s> darkmatter: are you working on a beryl theme?
[05:41] <darkmatter> yup... slowly. refining the gtk a first.
[05:42] <troy_s> i see.
[05:42] <darkmatter> atm the beryls ugly... the button are just filler fron that amora thingy because I needed a place to click
[05:42] <darkmatter> ;)
[05:43] <troy_s> have you tried farting around with metisse?
[05:43] <darkmatter> yup
[05:43] <darkmatter> its pretty neat
[05:43] <darkmatter> I like the "build your own windows" thing
[05:43] <troy_s> i find it more interesting than the compiz/beryl simply because it seems to offer more useable elements
[05:44] <troy_s> not just garbage 'neat' stuff.
[05:44] <darkmatter> thats actually quite useful
[05:44] <troy_s> indeed.
[05:44] <troy_s> are you referring to the build your own tool palette elements?
[05:44] <darkmatter> yup... compiz n beryl are fine... but beryls mostly useless eyecandy
[05:44] <darkmatter> troy_s, yup
[05:44] <troy_s> exactly
[05:45] <troy_s> the pager in metisse is far superior too
[05:45] <troy_s> in fact, dare i say, metisse seems to be the most well thought out direction for utilizing gl accell.
[05:45] <troy_s> not that i am sold on it until we can assure that every user can use it.
[05:45] <troy_s> until that point, i find that software augmentations are probably the best route (along the lines of e17)
[05:46] <troy_s> pingunz speaks very highly of you... where are you from?
[05:46] <darkmatter> Canada
[05:46] <troy_s> woot
[05:46] <troy_s> good canadian kid.
[05:46] <troy_s> ;)
[05:46] <darkmatter> brb.. need coffeee
[05:46] <troy_s> vancouver here.
[05:46] <darkmatter> w00t
[05:47] <troy_s> where abouts darkmatter ?
[05:48] <darkmatter> ahh.. south eastern Saskatchewan
[05:49] <troy_s> saskatoon berries.
[05:49] <troy_s> lol
[05:50] <darkmatter> lol
[05:50] <darkmatter> I used to live in saskatoon many moons ago
[07:56] <troy_s> greets msikma
[07:57] <msikma> hey troy
[11:18] <lapo> hi there
[11:18] <andreasn> hi lapo
[11:19] <lapo> yo andreasn
[11:19] <andreasn> how are things?
[11:19] <lapo> andreasn: going fine, thanks, what about you?
[11:20] <andreasn> everythings good, currently doing sketches for a new client
[11:21] <lapo> cool so your work is going fine
[11:21] <andreasn> and it's not the ordinary desktop-stuff that have been done a bazillion times before, so that's fun
[11:21] <lapo> when you'll be as rich as mark lemme try your personal jet :-)
[11:22] <darkmatter> hmmm... some progess... opinions? http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/374334129/in/set-72157594488098254/   http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/374334127/in/set-72157594488098254/
[11:22] <andreasn> I'm doing ok on my incomes, but it's not as much as I would have hoped to
[11:23] <andreasn> BUT, I did get a radio airplane for my birthday from my brother-in-law!
[11:23] <andreasn> tried it out yesterday, it was quite fun
[11:24] <andreasn> darkmatter: where did you get that sweet firefox icon?
[11:24] <darkmatter> ahhh.... from the tango xp suff
[11:25] <andreasn> is it available in several sizes?
[11:26] <darkmatter> yup... it is now (fixed up and in my hicolor folder... also did the xpm for the windows and windowlist)
[11:28] <andreasn> http://www.darkt.net/tango/ , right?
[11:29] <andreasn> or, hm, that seems to be down
[11:29] <darkmatter> was... it moved
[11:29] <darkmatter> one sec
[11:31] <darkmatter> andreasn, http://vertigosity.benpbrown.com/?page=start
[11:31] <andreasn> thanks!
[11:31] <darkmatter> yup
[11:32] <darkmatter> sources r at http://tango.benpbrown.com/?page=dev&dev=source
[11:32] <darkmatter> its in there somewhere
[11:33] <lapo> andreasn: do you remember the garret's firefox themes url?
[11:33] <andreasn> I think it's up on addons.mozilla.com now
[11:33] <lapo> really?
[11:33] <lapo> cool
[11:34] <andreasn> http://primates.ximian.com/~glesage/firefox/
[11:35] <darkmatter> industrial+gilouche looks kinda neat on windows
[11:57] <andreasn> darkmatter: hm, in what package is that ff-icon?
[11:58] <andreasn> darkmatter: I found hylke-fx in one folder, but that seems a bit unclearer
[11:58] <darkmatter> hmm... not sure...
[12:00] <darkmatter> brb
[01:09] <lizardking> hello
[03:03] <lizardking> sbaush:  hi
[03:03] <lizardking> sbaush : How are you?
[03:03] <sbaush> ghghgh
[03:08] <klepas_> moin
[04:06] <klepas> np: Various Artists - Capricorn - 20 Hz
[04:07] <klepas> anyone awake?
[07:38] <Viper550> anyone here?
[07:41] <effraie> yep
[07:44] <Viper550> okay then...
[08:09] <lizardking__> Hi
[10:35] <drew1313> hi all
[10:37] <darkmatter> hello
[10:38] <drew1313> my firest time here just kinda cheking it out
[10:41] <darkmatter> ahhh... well.. welcome :)
[10:41] <drew1313> thank you...
[10:42] <troy_s> greets all.
[11:45] <lizardking> hi