[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82198 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82198
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82199 in evolution-exchange (main) "regression: evolution exchange does not save messages in "Sent Items"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82199
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82200 in Ubuntu "[network-manager]  Not notifying the user for network status" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82200
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82202 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_value_table_peek()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82202
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82203 in network-manager (main) "feisty network-manager unable to connect to WEP wireless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82203
[02:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82204 in contact-lookup-applet (main) "useless search result" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82204
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82205 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  gtk-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_set_source_rgba()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82205
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82211 in gnucash (universe) "register entries crash application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82211
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82213 in kdebase (main) "kmenuedit: unable to create new menu entries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82213
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82136 in service-discovery-applet (universe) "crash when loading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82136
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82218 in banshee (universe) "[apport] [feisty]  crash while playing music" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82218
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82221 in kdenetwork (main) "Please remove kopete-dev from feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82221
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82222 in kdenetwork (main) "kdenetwork-dev needs to replace kopete-dev (<= 4:3.5.3) " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82222
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82226 in Ubuntu "Beryl crashed when I tried to use Envy to install the latest NVidia drivers." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82226
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82225 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager Applet icon should indicate network activity, like Network Monitor Applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82225
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82227 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82227
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82229 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "[apport]  telepathy-butterfly crashed with TypeError in emit_signal()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82229
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82231 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashes on partitioner [feisty] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82231
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82228 in ubiquity (main) ""Failed to create a file system"" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82228
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82234 in Ubuntu "Incorrect huge resolution on SiS 651 DVI and d-Sub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82234
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82235 in moin (main) "Ubuntu.com download page down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82235
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82236 in klamav (universe) "Klamav switch off after a few secs automatically in Feisty 7.04 herd2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82236
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82237 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82237
[08:45] <palski> SRU bug #79059, needs verification,
[08:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79059 in gnome-hearts "[SRU]  gnome-hearts crashes on startup (edgy)" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79059
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82238 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Madwifi driver prevents MacBook from booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82238
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82239 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed during partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82239
[09:16] <dholbach> good morning
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82240 in pouetchess (universe) "pouetchess crashes after a few moves" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82240
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82241 in pouetchess (universe) "pouetchess crashes after a few moves" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82241
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82242 in linux-meta (main) "speedstep-centrino.ko: missing kernel module in kernel 2.6.20-5.7" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82242
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82243 in hardinfo (universe) "[apport]  hardinfo crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82243
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82245 in libsoup (main) "Please sync libsoup (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82245
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82244 in gtksourceview (main) "Please sync gtksourceview (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82244
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82246 in Ubuntu "please sync openvpn_2.0.9-4/unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82246
[10:45] <dholbach> look at http://launchpad.net/bughelper/+milestone/0.1
[10:45] <dholbach>  :-))
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82247 in gnome-app-install (main) "the progress bar on loading should respect the transient option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82247
[11:17] <davmor2> is David Farning here?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> davmor2: nope what can we do for you?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> davmor2: he would be in #ubuntu-mozillateam but hes not IRC at all atm.
[11:20] <davmor2> I've just confirmed this bug #81809
[11:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81809 in firefox "Firefox crashes while using Thememanger" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81809
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ok i will be replying to it in a minute we need more info from both of you.
[11:22] <davmor2> I thought that would be the case
[11:22] <rulus> I have a question about basic bug triaging. What should we do with the 'please include this in universe' bugs? For example bug #82141
[11:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82141 in drupal "drupal 5.0 is out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82141
[11:22] <davmor2> that's why I didn't assign it to myself
[11:22] <gnomefreak> rulus: nothing thats more for the universe team
[11:22] <rulus> so, just reject?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> davmor2: all mozilla bugs get assigned to mozillateam unless something else id the cause
[11:23] <gnomefreak> rulus: no leave it alone
[11:23] <rulus> since I think these are not bugs
[11:23] <rulus> ah, allright
[11:23] <gnomefreak> its a feture request
[11:23] <gnomefreak> or upgrade request
[11:24] <rulus> yes, but I thought feature request had a specific launchpad section, so we could reject these at the bugs section
[11:24] <davmor2> rulus if you read the replies page there is a reply for request a package https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-cb528b62036e56118c640fa6f6968730a782a29e
[11:24] <dholbach> davmor2, gnomefreak: did you look into using bughelper for the mozilla team already?
[11:25] <rulus> davmor2: ok, thanks
[11:25] <gnomefreak> dholbach: not yet i would have to write a clue file and thats still a bit to learn atm.
[11:25] <davmor2> dholbach lost me sorry
[11:25] <dholbach> gnomefreak, davmor2: it's not hard any more
[11:26] <dholbach> you simply write  ./bugxml firefox "<something that needs to be in the bugreport>" "<Information you want to provide>"
[11:26] <dholbach> then you can run   ./bughelper -A firefox   and it will search for that bit of information
[11:26] <dholbach> (even in text attachments)
[11:27] <seb128> bughelper -A firefox and come some hours later :p
[11:27] <seb128> make some space for the cache before ;)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> i will look into it or see if david wants to do it. im still a little unsure on some crash reports. i know some just because its a daily thing
[11:29] <dholbach> seb128: I'll work on a  --try  and  --try-only  option later
[11:29] <dholbach> seb128: so you can try free form clues before adding them
[11:29] <seb128> nice
[11:29] <davmor2> dholbach: sorry I don't understand.
[11:29] <davmor2> I've never used bug helper at all
[11:29] <gnomefreak> davmor2: im guessing you dont know about bughelper?
[11:30] <dholbach> davmor2: normal mode of operation for bughelper is "add a 'clue' to a file, run bughelper and see if the clue works well"
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82250 in zope-debhelper (main) "Please sync zope-debhelper (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82250
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82251 in zope2.9 (universe) "Please sync zope2.9 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82251
[11:30] <dholbach> somebody of the bughelper team should get cracking on some documentation :)))
[11:31] <dholbach> i updated some small bits on the wiki, but it's still not easy to find your way around
[11:33] <ajmitch> gnomefreak: ?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ajmitch: you dont do your own syncs?
[11:34] <ajmitch> no, I'm not a member of the archive team
[11:34] <gnomefreak> oh only they do them?
[11:34] <ajmitch> only they have the power
[11:34] <davmor2> gnomefreak, dholbach:  I'm a non-tech I just help out with any bugs that obviously need more info our I can repeat to confirm the bug.  I have no idea about how to use bughelper I've seen a couple of conversations that went right over my head.  I'm more than happy to try and use it if I can get some guidelines from somewhere?
[11:35] <dholbach> davmor2: we have a small tutorial, hang on
[11:35] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Tutorial
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82252 in rhythmbox (main) "[apport]  rhythmbox crashed when accessing Magnatune" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82252
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82253 in elfsh (universe) "Please sync elfsh (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82253
[11:35] <gnomefreak> its easy to use.
[11:35] <dholbach> what we're trying to do is the following:
[11:36] <dholbach> once somebody finds a set of common set of bugs and has some knowledge about them, she feeds it into bughelper
[11:36] <gnomefreak> oh unstable is the dev version?
[11:36] <dholbach> (with the bugxml command i told you about earlier)
[11:37] <dholbach> the good thing is: everybody can then use bughelper with the added 'clue' and find bugs that match
[11:37] <dholbach> that way we can easily spread knowledge about bugs and find bugs easier
[11:37] <dholbach> we can even script it at some stage
[11:37] <dholbach> does that make sense?
[11:38] <ajmitch> dholbach: how useful would it be look at some debian bugs as well?
[11:38] <dholbach> ajmitch: the topic has been brought up before, i'm sure it'd make sense at some stage
[11:39] <davmor2> dholbach:  Kinda.  do you have an example of an xml file?
[11:39] <dholbach> sure
[11:39] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/ClueFiles
[11:39] <dholbach> i hope some patches are going to be merged in soon, so we can start packaging it
[11:40] <davmor2> okay I'll have a play with it and let you know how I get on
[11:40] <dholbach> davmor2: if you find a bug, something we could improve, some feature you miss, don't hesitate to file a bug
[11:41] <davmor2> np
[11:42] <dholbach> seb128: can I checkout your greasemonkey script from somewhere?
[11:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82257 in imp4 (universe) "Please sync imp4 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82257
[11:42] <seb128> dholbach: from my people page, I didn't move it since yesterday ,)
[11:42] <seb128> ;)
[11:43] <davmor2> quick question do I need any additional packages in order to install bughelper  I'm guessing that bzr is like svn
[11:44] <dholbach> davmor2: no, just bughelper and python-libxml2
[11:44] <davmor2> so is the bzr already in feisty or is that another package?
[11:44] <dholbach> bzr (the package is in feisty)
[11:44] <dholbach> bughelper is not in the archive yet
[11:45] <davmor2> ok thanks
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82258 in kvm (universe) "Should depend on a kernel with matching interface version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82258
[11:46] <davmor2> dholbach do you recommend stable or dev
[11:47] <dholbach> there is one stable
[11:47] <dholbach> and a bunch of development branches
[11:47] <davmor2> stable then :) ta
[11:47] <dholbach> if you look at https://code.launchpad.net/bughelper/ you see that my .dev branch is not the only one :)
[11:47] <dholbach> i'll remove that bit from the tutorial
[11:47] <pochu> dholbach: if there is one stable, why not include it in the archive?
[11:48] <pochu> good morning :)
[11:48] <dholbach> pochu: it's "stable"
[11:48] <dholbach> we have some goals we want to achieve before it's 0.1
[11:48] <pochu> then include 0.0.5 :)
[11:48] <dholbach> hehe
[11:48] <dholbach> i think i'm going to do that soon
[11:48] <dholbach> i just want some of my patches merged before
[11:49] <dholbach> because they'll change quite a lot
[11:49] <pochu> dholbach: doing that, you will have a lot of testers
[11:49] <dholbach> i know :)
[11:49] <pochu> :)
[11:49] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/bughelper/+milestone/0.1
[11:49] <dholbach> that's out 0.1 todo list
[11:49] <dholbach> if you guys want to help out, just do it :)
[11:49] <dholbach> i'm happy to help you get started
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82260 in littlewizard (universe) "Please sync littlewizard (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82260
[11:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper also has a run-through with the commands you use most
[11:52] <pochu> dholbach: you are working on python, right?
[11:52] <dholbach> no, I just use it
[11:52] <pochu> I mean, for bughelper :)
[11:52] <dholbach> I like it, but I'm no expert and don't "maintain" it.
[11:52] <dholbach> Yes. :)
[11:52] <pochu> then I'll take a look at the code
[11:53] <pochu> my skill is very very low
[11:53] <pochu> but you don't have to introduce my code, if I do some code :)
[11:53] <dholbach> pochu: that's no problem... if you attach a patch to the bug or commit to your own branch, somebody else will review it
[11:53] <pochu> that would be fine
[11:53] <pochu> :)
[11:53] <dholbach> it's a "policy" we decided on
[11:53] <pochu> but now I have to study ;)
[11:53] <dholbach> code changes are checked by somebody else of the team
[11:54] <dholbach> alrighty.... good luck with that!
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82263 in Ubuntu "System was "frozen" on beryl screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82263
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82264 in texmacs (universe) "[feisty]  hard-depends on tetex" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82264
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82265 in cupsys (main) "Printer output on wrong paper size" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82265
[12:02] <davmor2> dholbach I just tried following the tutorial it says "./bughelper vino" and you get a report.   I got the same thing as if I had typed just ./bughelper so I changed vino to firefox incase the bug had been fixed and got the same responce
[12:02] <dholbach> sorry, it's   ./bughelper -p <package name>   nowadays
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82262 in miredo (universe) "Please sync miredo (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82262
[12:03] <davmor2> okay thanks
[12:05] <dholbach> i updated the wiki pages
[12:05] <dholbach> we had a couple of big changes in the last time, but i expect us to catch up with those changes soon
[12:05] <dholbach> davmor2: thanks for letting me know
[12:09] <davmor2> dholbach: -c no such option again from the tutorial bottom section
[12:11] <dholbach> yeah... that's something heno made up
[12:11] <dholbach> sorry
[12:11] <dholbach> I just told him
[12:12] <davmor2> mybe it is something in his branch :
[12:12] <davmor2> :)
[12:12] <davmor2> even
[12:12] <dholbach> hehe
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82267 in apport (main) "apport-gtk keeps crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82267
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82266 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "toshiba acpi not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82266
[12:20] <dholbach> I'd highly appreciate it, if somebody could test and review https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bughelper/2007-January/000010.html
[12:26] <davmor2> gnomefreak:  I applied firefox-g2>&1|tee~/Desktop/gdb-firefox.log and all I got was a gdb command line and no firefox window
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82268 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile crashed with IOError in save()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82268
[12:41] <jwendell> Hi, seb128
[12:42] <seb128> hi jwendell
[12:43] <jwendell> seb128, one doubt: if some package needs to change one field from 'suggests' to 'depends', who must be contacted?
[12:43] <jwendell> bug 75765
[12:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75765 in syslinux "This package should depends on mtools" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75765
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82269 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile crashed with TypeError in update_rating()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82269
[12:45] <seb128> jwendell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265275
[12:45] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 265275 in syslinux "syslinux internally calls mcopy" [Unknown,Open] 
[12:45] <seb128> jwendell: I would just wait on Debian
[12:46] <jwendell> seb128, ok. i'll add a task there
[12:46] <seb128> jwendell: already done
[12:46] <jwendell> :)
[12:48] <jwendell> seb128, btw, debian bugtracker is a little confused
[12:48] <seb128> ?
[12:49] <jwendell> seb128, gnome or LP is more clear
[12:50] <jwendell> seb128, thanks
[12:50] <seb128> ah, k
[12:50] <seb128> "confusing" you mean
[12:50] <seb128> I though you crashed it by some way :p
[12:51] <seb128> or make it bug rather
[12:53] <jwendell> seb128, hehe sorry, my english is not so good :)
[12:53] <seb128> np, mine is not neither ;)
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82270 in deskbar-applet (main) "menu appears over the panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82270
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82271 in kdebase (main) "[kde 3.5.6]  kdesu prints password characters typed with dead keys to console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82271
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82272 in gdm (main) "/etc/bash_completion bad completion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82272
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82273 in Ubuntu "desktop gets stuck when logging out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82273
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82274 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82274
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82275 in kdebase (main) "[kde 3.5.6]  kdesu shows two "stars" for a single character entered with dead keys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82275
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82277 in kde-guidance (main) "[Feisty]  guidance-power-manager doesn't work for UPS on a desktop system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82277
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82276 in bash (main) "/etc/bash_completion bad completion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82276
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82278 in kdevelop (universe) "KDevelop's File Tree doesn't pick up QMake .pro file changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82278
[02:33] <pochu> hi coNP :)
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82279 in kde-guidance (main) "displayconfig resolution change bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82279
[02:36] <dholbach> seb128: did you play with the big changes in bughelper already?
[02:36] <seb128> nop
[02:36] <dholbach> ok
[02:37] <seb128> I'm trying to catch up with bugs which have no reply
[02:37] <seb128> and that looks like and endless battle :(
[02:37] <dholbach> yeah:-/
[02:37] <coNP> hi pochu & all
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82280 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_x11_window_set_user_time()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82280
[03:05] <seb128> I'm doing a round of gnome-panel triage
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82281 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82281
[03:11] <cypher1> seb128: hi
[03:11] <seb128> Hi cypher1
[03:11] <cypher1> seb128: i was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCodecInstallation
[03:11] <cypher1> i have some doubts.. can i ask ?
[03:12] <seb128> sure
[03:13] <cypher1> isn't it not possible to only change the gstreamer to do this spec. thereby not touching any apps which use the gstreamer
[03:13] <seb128> no
[03:14] <seb128> or we would have done so
[03:14] <cypher1> something like a wrapper function in gstreamer realizing the is no codec and call libgimme-codec ?
[03:14] <seb128> the app needs to know what's going on
[03:14] <seb128> or you just have the UI freeze while gst is working
[03:16] <cypher1> sorry i have not done X progs.. but can gst deactivate the app by showing one window about the status above it..
[03:16] <seb128> well that's what it's doing atm
[03:16] <seb128> but gst has no idea of what the app is
[03:16] <seb128> we need to pass an xid for that
[03:16] <seb128> which is a new API
[03:16] <seb128> the apps need to be updated to use that new gst API
[03:17] <seb128> the error dialog have to be done at the app level as well
[03:17] <seb128> gst is non a graphical lib
[03:18] <seb128> dialogs would be misplaced there
[03:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82282 in uswsusp (universe) "Installing uswsusp does not put it at work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82282
[03:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82283 in uswsusp (universe) "[feisty]  no graphical progressbar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82283
[03:18] <cypher1> seb128: oh..non graphical..ok
[03:19] <cypher1> just to understand more.. app calls a gstreamer api.. can we write a wrapper for the api which actually calls the real API..will this work apart from the UI freezing
[03:22] <seb128> what are you trying to do?
[03:22] <seb128> what is your problem with having app calling gst functions for easy codec?
[03:22] <seb128> that's not likely you had to rewrite the app to use it
[03:23] <seb128> that's only a new API to use
[03:28] <cypher1> seb128: i reread the spec.. thanks its more clear now
[03:28] <seb128> np
[03:33] <sfllaw> Morning folks!
[03:35] <dholbach> bdmurray, seb128: nice - you added some bughelper data :)
[03:35] <seb128> ;)
[03:36] <dholbach> i just branched my new branch and was astounded why it took so long first (but it did a fresh checkout of bughelper-data) - the next startup was relatively fast :)
[03:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82284 in Ubuntu "Incorrect mimetype detection of CSS files that start with a comment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82284
[03:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82285 in kde-systemsettings (main) "System Settings does not have the Panels settings module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82285
[03:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82286 in Ubuntu "[apport]  destar.py crashed with TypeError in file_input()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82286
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82287 in avahi (main) "[feisty]  avahi daemon interacts badly with network-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82287
[03:47] <aragorn> hi all
[03:48] <bddebian> Boo
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82291 in uswsusp (universe) "[feisty]  resume broken on system where kernel suspend/resume works fine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82291
[04:01] <bdmurray> dholbach: in which tree does the -c option exist?
[04:03] <dholbach> bdmurray: not at all
[04:03] <dholbach> heno made it up
[04:04] <dholbach> we discussed it at some point, but deferred it to "maybe somebody wants to do it"
[04:04] <bdmurray> oh, the documentation seemed to indicate it existed
[04:04] <dholbach> yeah
[04:05] <bdmurray> okay.  I tried using a firefox clue yesterday and the took quite a while.
[04:05] <bdmurray> For the search to complete
[04:06] <dholbach> but now you have all the attachments ;-9
[04:06] <bdmurray> heh, there is that I guess
[04:17] <devatha> hello
[04:18] <devatha> I am a newbie to triaging, can anyone tell me what to do if the initial reporter does not respond to your queries
[04:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82293 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82293
[04:25] <dholbach> seb128: --try and --try-only work now :-)
[04:25] <seb128> rock on ;)
[04:25] <dholbach> wanna test?
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82294 in gnome-pilot (main) "gnome-pilot loads three times and crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82294
[04:26] <dholbach> ;-)
[04:26] <seb128> yep
[04:26] <dholbach> i'll push them to my .dev branch too
[04:26] <dholbach> so you have ONE BIG checkout
[04:26] <seb128> k
[04:26] <dholbach> if it fucks up, I'll fix all the bugs, then we'll commit to .main
[04:26] <seb128> looks like a plan ;)
[04:27] <dholbach> thanks a lot Sb
[04:28] <dholbach> pushed
[04:28] <dholbach> brb
[04:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82295 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "Away status eventually changes to available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82295
[04:45] <amep> I am going to try to squash the usplash on AMD64 bug (gray splash screen, etc). But I know very little aboue usplash. Can anyone point me to some developer docs for usplash? I can't get it to run on a fully booted system for testing.
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82296 in Ubuntu "server connections refused for everything but Yahoo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82296
[04:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82297 in apport (main) "package_hook crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82297
[04:53] <coNP> seb128: What do you think about bug #82140? Sure, it should have been filed against the theme. But isn't it the case "changing defaults"? Can you give me some hints how to triage it?
[04:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82140 in human-icon-theme "Emblems just add clutter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82140
[04:55] <seb128> coNP: ask to dholbach, that's something that should be dealt with by the artwork team, not the forum
[04:55] <seb128> coNP: that's not really a default setting choice
[04:55] <seb128> like what config we are using
[04:55] <seb128> that's an hint for the artwork team work
[04:56] <dholbach> coNP: i think there's an emblem bug about h-i-t already
[04:56] <seb128> dholbach: query on "emblem" returns nothing
[04:56] <seb128> dholbach: and from a quick look no bug title match
[04:56] <dholbach> hum
[04:57] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-icon-theme/+bug/73023
[04:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73023 in human-icon-theme "Round orange emblems have lack usability" [Medium,Rejected] 
[04:57] <coNP> thanks, seb128 and dholbach, too :)
[04:57] <dholbach> mark it as a dup of that one
[04:58] <seb128> dholbach: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/human-icon-theme/+bugs?field.searchtext=emblems&search=Search
[04:58] <seb128> go figure
[04:58] <seb128> launchpad is the suck
[04:58] <dholbach> seb128: it was rejected
[04:58] <seb128> ah ok
[04:59] <coNP> okay, I marked that dup (however I was not sure who do you addressed, dholbach)
[04:59] <dholbach> ok
[04:59] <dholbach> maybe the art team will pick it up
[05:01] <coNP> hopefully they do
[05:01] <coNP> thanks again
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82299 in openssh (main) "Port fix for openssh bug 1086 to dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82299
[05:13] <seb128> dholbach:
[05:13] <seb128> $ ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init
[05:13] <seb128> Checked at []  - no clues found.
[05:13] <dholbach> yes
[05:13] <dholbach> -T means that it doesn't check in directories for clue files
[05:14] <dholbach> somebody should get rid of the warning
[05:14] <seb128> ?
[05:14] <seb128> I'm not sure ot get how it works
[05:14] <dholbach> it's just a warning
[05:14] <seb128> well no
[05:14] <dholbach> ok, try
[05:15] <dholbach>  $ ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init -p gnome-panel
[05:18] <dholbach> the problem is: you might want to use a clue with a -l <url> option, that's why "-p <package>" is still needed :-/
[05:18] <dholbach> somebody could fix that too
[05:21] <dholbach> seb128: better now?
[05:24] <seb128_> re
[05:24] <seb128_> dholbach: what did you get or wrote before?
[05:24] <dholbach> seb128 well no
[05:24] <dholbach> dholbach ok, try
[05:24] <dholbach>   $ ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init -p gnome-panel
[05:24] <dholbach> * gnomefreak (n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak) hat #ubuntu-bugs betreten
[05:24] <dholbach> dholbach the problem is: you might want to use a clue with a -l <url> option, that's why "-p <package>" is still needed :-/
[05:24] <dholbach>  somebody could fix that too
[05:24] <dholbach> * amep (n=amp@66-234-34-40.nyc.cable.nyct.net) hat #ubuntu-bugs verlassen
[05:24] <dholbach> dholbach seb128: better now?
 well no
[05:25] <seb128_>  $ ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init
[05:25] <seb128_>  Checked at []  - no clues found.
[05:25] <seb128_>  Check README on how to create one using the bugxml(1) command.
[05:25] <seb128_>  Usage: bughelper --version
[05:25] <seb128_> 
[05:25] <seb128_>  etc
[05:25] <seb128_>  it prints the usage
[05:25] <seb128_>  and doesn't do anything
[05:25] <seb128_>  maybe I didn't get what it's supposed to do though
[05:25] <dholbach> yes
[05:25] <seb128_>  I wanted to look for panel bugs with gtk_widget_init without adding a clue for it firs
[05:25] <dholbach>   $ ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init -p gnome-panel
[05:25] <seb128_> ah
[05:25] <seb128_>   File "/home/seb128/boulot/paquets/debug/bughelper.dev/bugHelper/HTMLOperations.py", line 46, in __init__
[05:25] <seb128_>     bp = bugPage(bp.following_page)
[05:25] <seb128_> NameError: global name 'bugPage' is not defined
[05:25] <dholbach> the problem is: you might want to use a clue with a -l <url> option, that's why "-p <package>" is still needed :-/
[05:25] <seb128_> well, why do you use -T package if you already have -p package?
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82300 in gimp (main) "Evince causes 100% CPU Usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82300
[05:26] <dholbach> you might want to use a clue with a -l <url> option
[05:26] <seb128_> ah, right
[05:26] <dholbach> so you either need -p ... or -l ...
[05:26] <dholbach> but i agree
[05:26] <dholbach> it could be fixed
[05:26] <seb128_> and why do you need -T <package>?
[05:26] <dholbach> the crash looks like merge error
[05:26] <seb128_> I didn't merge
[05:26] <dholbach> try BugPage instead of bugPage
[05:26] <dholbach> oh?
[05:26] <seb128_> I bzr get your branck for the first time
[05:27] <seb128_> branch
[05:27] <dholbach> weird
[05:27] <seb128_> let me try to pull
[05:27] <seb128_> nop, uptodate
[05:27] <dholbach> weird
[05:27] <seb128_>  ./bughelper -T gnome-panel gtk_widget_init gtk_widget_init -p gnome-panel
[05:27] <seb128_> does that work for you?
[05:28] <dholbach> woah crazy
[05:28] <seb128_> fixing the typo seems to work
[05:28] <seb128_> what?
[05:28] <dholbach> crashes too
[05:28] <seb128_> :)
[05:28] <seb128_> maybe a merge error :p
[05:28] <dholbach> try bugPage -> BugPage
[05:28] <dholbach> yeah on my end ;-)
 fixing the typo seems to work
[05:28] <seb128_> I did ;)
[05:28] <dholbach> rock on
[05:28] <seb128_> it's not crashing
[05:28] <seb128_> it's not printing anything yet though
[05:29] <seb128_> but I'm used to that with my slow internet :p
[05:29] <dholbach> you need -T <package> ... because it needs to know which package to attach the clue to
[05:29] <dholbach> i'll run "canned queries" on a server soon
[05:29] <seb128_> I don't really get why it needs a package
[05:29] <seb128_> it's supposed to search to the bug list
[05:29] <seb128_> like -l URI
[05:29] <seb128_> it'll look to the bugs on that page or limit to one package?
[05:30] <dholbach> i need to wrap my head around it
[05:30] <dholbach> at the moment every clue file has a name attached to it
[05:30] <dholbach> (that's because of inheritance)
[05:30] <seb128_> well there is no clue there
[05:30] <seb128_> that's a --try
[05:30] <dholbach> yeah
[05:30] <dholbach> but i use the 'clue' data structure
[05:30] <seb128_> ah ok
[05:30] <dholbach> maybe there's a cleverer way
[05:30] <seb128_> but there should be no need for a package name there
[05:31] <dholbach> yeah, I agree, it's a bit awkward
[05:31] <seb128_> the clue should apply either on a bugs list of a package
[05:31] <seb128_> s/of/or
[05:31] <dholbach> would you want to run all tests on all bugs?
[05:31] <dholbach> like 1) download a bug, 2) try to match it with all the clues available
[05:32] <dholbach> (your search query found 70280)
[05:32] <seb128_> (same for me)
[05:32] <seb128_> hum, good point
[05:32] <dholbach> if we can find a clever way to restrict it, I'm happy to do changes
[05:32] <seb128_> naming both package is confusing
[05:33] <dholbach> once I work on the "bug without package specified = try all clues" thing, I'll re-think what we have at the moment
[05:33] <dholbach> I know
[05:33] <dholbach> I agreed to that like 4 times now ;-)
[05:33] <seb128_> hum
[05:33] <dholbach> if somebody wants to fix it, I'm happy to review, test, debug and commit :)
[05:33] <seb128_> can't you just provide a mooo package for -t and -T rather than asking for one? ;)
[05:34] <dholbach> I don' think I understand
[05:34] <seb128_> for -T rather
[05:34] <seb128_> well, since you don't use clue file the package name doesn't matter
[05:34] <seb128_> can you just pick a random package name when using -T
[05:34] <dholbach> i think about it
[05:35] <seb128_> and use it automatically rather than asking to the user
[05:35] <dholbach> there's no code that handles clue matching for packages without srcpkg yet
[05:35] <seb128_> well, pick a srcpkg
[05:35] <dholbach> right
[05:35] <dholbach> i need to think about it
[05:35] <seb128_> put "libc6" there
[05:35] <seb128_> ok :)
[05:35] <seb128_> I will think about it as well
[05:35] <dholbach> libc6 doesn't work well
[05:35] <seb128_> ok, the dry run find my bug
[05:36] <seb128_> and no duplicate :/
[05:36] <dholbach> should it have found something?
[05:38] <dholbach> committed your fix - thanks again
[05:39] <seb128_> dholbach: np
[05:40] <seb128_> dholbach: no, it should, that was in case ;)
[05:41] <dholbach> hm?
[05:41] <dholbach> seb128_: should or should it not have found something?
[05:41] <seb128_> shouldn't, sorry
[05:42] <seb128_> there is just lot of random GTK weird crashers
[05:42] <dholbach> alrighty :)
[05:42] <seb128_> and that was in case it was matching one
[05:42] <seb128_> which it's not :/
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82302 in glibc (main) "wrong glibc sort order on pt_BR" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82302
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82304 in vlc (universe) "vlc crashes when encoding Theora video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82304
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82305 in bzr (main) "push and pull on bound branches use too much network" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82305
[05:50] <dholbach> seb128_: i'll do a break now until the TB meeting
[05:50] <dholbach> seb128_: if you like the patch, just commit it
[05:50] <seb128_> dholbach: have fun
[05:50] <dholbach> thanks
[05:50] <dholbach> fernando: a clue file for bughelper is a file that stores information on what to look for in a bug
[05:50] <seb128_> dholbach: why one? your branch has lot of changes now no?
[05:51] <dholbach> fernando: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/ClueFiles
[05:51] <dholbach> seb128_: ok, I meant the BIG patch
[05:51] <seb128_> erf
[05:52] <dholbach> i'm just trying to stick to the "somebody else 'reviews' the patch" policy :)
[05:52] <seb128_> well, that's merging a branch now
[05:52] <seb128_> not a single patch
[05:52] <seb128_> and I'm not sure I want to do that :p
[05:52] <dholbach> ok, it consists of 4 patches :)
[05:54] <seb128_> just merge it
[05:54] <seb128_> and we will fix bugs if there is some
[05:59] <dholbach> seb128_: pushed it
[06:00] <seb128_> excellent
[06:00] <dholbach> somebody could review the patch at bug 81370
[06:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81370 in bughelper "bughelper should show status and importance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81370
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82306 in gaim-libnotify (universe) "don't show notifications when absent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82306
[06:02] <dholbach> bug 79148 would be nice to have fixed too and easy as well
[06:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79148 in bughelper "RFE: Make bughelper case-insensitive by default" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79148
[06:03] <dholbach> nice: https://launchpad.net/bughelper/+milestone/0.1
[06:08] <dholbach> sfllaw: can you reply to the bugs in  http://tinyurl.com/2rjg2e ? one of them is a 0.1 milestone bug
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82307 in Ubuntu "Can't copy VCD ".dat" files from CD to Hard Drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82307
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82308 in ubiquity (main) "Installer failed; grub-install crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82308
[06:11] <sfllaw> dholbach: Looking.
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82309 in scanbuttond (universe) "ScanJet 4300C not recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82309
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82310 in scanbuttond (universe) "initscanner.sh: sane-find-scanners should be sane-find-scanner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82310
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82311 in tracker (universe) "tracker-extract suddenly crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82311
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82312 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  X is blank after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82312
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82313 in kde-guidance (main) "Guidance-power manager memory growth in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82313
[07:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82314 in Ubuntu "pata driver in libata not mounting /home" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82314
[07:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82316 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82316
[07:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82315 in udev (main) "udevd tries to load module i82365, it shouldn't." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82315
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82317 in flightgear (universe) "segmentation fault (ubuntu)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82317
[07:47] <davmor2> gstreamer is screwed I'm going to track down the bug report but totem will not play more than 3 seconds of any of the lca .ogg vids
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82319 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[apport]  Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV in glitz_context_make_current()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82319
[07:47] <seb128> davmor2: where can I download a such file?
[07:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82318 in openoffice.org (main) "No Applications menu icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82318
[07:48] <davmor2> seb128: have you got gftp installed?
[07:48] <seb128> no
[07:49] <seb128> I've got plently of other ftp clients though
[07:49] <seb128> why do I need gftp?
[07:49] <seb128> lftp usually works fine
[07:49] <davmor2> you don't it's the only ftp client I have used so it's what I use.
[07:50] <davmor2> I get the server address for you
[07:51] <seb128> thank you
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82321 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "[feisty]  nautilus-cd-burner does not umount device and fails to erase automounted cdrw" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82321
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82322 in evolution (main) "Arabic encoding not included" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82322
[07:52] <davmor2> mirror.linux.org.au is the server then you want /pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video then just hilight one day at a time or what ever you want to do.  :)
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82320 in xorg (main) "Dell Latitude X200 display dpi detected incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82320
[07:54] <seb128> davmor2: works fine from me (using totem-gstreamer with mozilla plugin)
[07:54] <davmor2> is that okay seb128?
[07:54] <seb128> yep
[07:54] <seb128> I just tried on a video
[07:54] <seb128> it plays fine
[07:55] <davmor2> plays fine for vlc but not totem for me and there were 3 others on the forums too
[07:56] <seb128> weird
[07:56] <davmor2> this is on 32bit and 64 bit too
[07:57] <davmor2> it was only after the last totem update
[07:57] <seb128> try with gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri= to know if that's a gstreamer bug
[07:57] <seb128> anyway lunch time
[07:57] <seb128> bbl
[07:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82323 in k3b (main) "[KDE 3.5.6]  k3b wants "+-DVDs" ... and rejects "+DVDs" " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82323
[07:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82324 in Ubuntu "Sound card noise during VoIP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82324
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82325 in linux-meta (main) "pata_atiixp needed for booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82325
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82326 in Ubuntu "vmware install requires 'Yes'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82326
[08:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82327 in 915resolution (universe) "Resolution reverts after logout screen res change or drop to console and back..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82327
[08:17] <coNP> do you think bug 82632 can / should be backported?
[08:17] <coNP> do you think bug 82326 can / should be backported?
[08:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82326 in synaptic "vmware install requires 'Yes'" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82326
[08:17] <coNP> (to dapper)
[08:17] <cowbud> I may just be blind right now but is there an option to look at the bugs I am currently watching?
[08:18] <coNP> cowbud: there is, open your bugs and select "Subscribed"
[08:18] <coNP> cowbud: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~yourname/+subscribedbugs
[08:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82328 in amarok (main) "amarok weird behaviour when changing system time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82328
[08:19] <cowbud> conp: ahh excellent thank you!
[08:19] <coNP> cowbud: yw
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82329 in gnome-app-install (main) "No X-AppInstall-Codecs for gstreamer-bad.desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82329
[08:33] <pochu> bdmurray: ping?
[08:33] <coNP> bdmurray: you set bug 82326 to needs info?
[08:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82326 in synaptic "vmware install requires 'Yes'" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82326
[08:33] <coNP> hi pochu again :)
[08:33] <pochu> hi coNP :)
[08:33] <coNP> bdmurray: I can confirm it, you want me to set it to confirmed, or wait for the other user to provide (even) more info?
[08:36] <bdmurray> coNP what version of synaptic are you using?
[08:37] <coNP> bdmurray: look at bug 82326
[08:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82326 in synaptic "vmware install requires 'Yes'" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82326
[08:37] <cowbud> coNP: hey whatever happened with that colbert bridge naming?
[08:37] <coNP> bdmurray: sorry?
[08:37] <coNP> sorry bdmurray  I wanted
[08:37] <coNP> to talk to cowbud
[08:38] <cowbud> coNP: you live in hungry right?
[08:38] <coNP> cowbud: sure
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82332 in Ubuntu "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in groupDeleteTabBar()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82332
[08:38] <coNP> I can understand now
[08:38] <bdmurray> coNP: I have 0.57.11ubuntu12 and I did not see the bug
[08:38] <cowbud> coNP: sure? or yes? You guys had a bridge that had a voting system to have it named..
[08:38] <coNP> bdmurray: that is edgy?
[08:38] <coNP> bdmurray: or what?
[08:38] <bdmurray> coNP: yes, that is edgy's latest
[08:39] <coNP> bdmurray: some proposed version or sg. like that? I am almost sure everything is installed, I'll check it now
[08:39] <pochu> bdmurray: I've read your message, np with the package change ;)
[08:39] <coNP> cowbud: actually I would say they almost fully ignored the votes
[08:39] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, I just wanted to let you know how I decided that
[08:40] <pochu> bdmurray: I've learned something new, thanks :)
[08:40] <cowbud> coNP: what did the name turn out to be? they had the diplomat to the US come on the show and explain some stuff since he "won"
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82334 in network-manager (main) "all network applications use offline mode when network-manager isn't configured" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82334
[08:44] <coNP> bdmurray: can you pastebin me your sources.list?
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82335 in epiphany-browser (main) "[Feisty]  always start up working offline" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82335
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82336 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in removeFileWatch()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82336
[08:46] <coNP> bdmurray: because I can't see newer synaptic for my edgy
[08:46] <bdmurray> coNP: http://pastebin.com/871485
[08:46] <bdmurray> I'm using a mirror geographically close to me
[08:47] <coNP> thx, bdmurray / I also do
[08:47] <pochu> hey guys, I have to leave you for a while
[08:47] <pochu> see you ;)
[08:47] <bdmurray> maybe browse their files via http?
[08:52] <coNP> bdmurray: okay, that is really annoying; dpkg -l does not display the full version number
[08:52] <coNP> bdmurray: because ther is not enough room for it
[08:53] <coNP> bdmurray: actually the version in my Edgy is 0.57.11ubuntu12.1
[08:53] <cowbud> you can add a 'COLUMN=200 dpkg -l'
[08:54] <coNP> cowbud: thanks
[08:54] <cowbud> hrmm although that doesn't seem to do it grrr did I forget what it was?!
[08:54] <coNP> bdmurray: however, the vmware bug is present in it
[08:55] <cowbud> ahh
[08:55] <cowbud> :)
[08:55] <cowbud> COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l
[08:55] <cowbud> forgot the s
[08:56] <coNP> cowbud: thx,  I increased the width of my terminal window :) it was easier :)
[08:57] <cowbud> coNP: :) so many solutions
[08:57] <coNP> TIMTOWTDI
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82337 in quodlibet (universe) "[apport]  quodlibet crashed with AttributeError in change_status()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82337
[09:07] <coNP> btw. do you know what is this karma decrease on lp now?
[09:07] <seb128> they probably changed the way it's calculated
[09:09] <davmor2> seb128:  I did what you said basically it kept pausing updating and the playing, it was very juddery
[09:15] <jwendell> coNP, /topic #launchpad
[09:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82341 in gaim (main) "gaim libmsn crash (dup-of: 71031)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82341
[09:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82343 in cryptsetup (universe) "init.d/cryptdisks doesnt create symlinks in /dev/disk/by-*" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82343
[09:25] <ajmitch> I'm surprised at how many people look at their karma
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81574 in gnome-power-manager "gnome-power-manager disappear" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81574
[09:27] <bdmurray> coNP: could add steps to recreate 82326? as the initial reporters are vague
[09:31] <bdmurray> !info destar
[09:31] <ubotu> destar: management interface for the Asterisk PBX. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2beta-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 154 kB, installed size 1012 kB
[09:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82340 in gaim (main) "gaim libmsn crash (dup-of: 71031)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82340
[09:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82346 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request]  kxgenerator (0.3.7+dfsg-1) from debian unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82346
[09:39] <coNP> thx jwendell
[09:40] <coNP> bdmurray: it is nothing but to install vmware, and there is some yes / no questions where there is a GTK dialog present, but by the network configuration part there is none...
[09:41] <coNP> bdmurray: i.e. it only asks on the terminal window
[09:44] <bdmurray> coNP: The problem is with configuring the package then? not the installation of it?
[09:44] <coNP> bdmurray: it is in the postinst script, I guess
[09:45] <bdmurray> okay, and that is known from the initial users report.  So your additional information would be helpful.
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82348 in kdevelop (universe) "kdevdesigner crashes when saving new file/existing file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82348
[09:46] <coNP> bdmurray: okay, I will have a look at the scripts
[09:46] <bdmurray> cool, thanks.
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82349 in sqlalchemy (universe) "Please sync sqlalchemy 0.3.4-2 (universe) from experimental (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82349
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82350 in gaupol (universe) "Please sync gaupol 0.7.2-2 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82350
[10:00] <coNP> hey pochu
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82351 in ubiquity (main) "whishlist: support for swap files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82351
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82352 in pypar2 (universe) "Please sync pypar2 1.1-1 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82352
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82353 in pyzor (universe) "[apport]  pyzor crashed with error in send()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82353
[10:02] <pochu> hi coNP :)
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82330 in gnome-panel "alt-f2 runbox in gnome doesn't know about ~/bin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82330
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82354 in denemo (main) "Denemo no name in menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82354
[10:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82355 in wesnoth (universe) "wesnoth: no music, mixed languages and cannot load next scenario" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82355
[10:22] <neutrinomas1> Any idea why the report of bug 45570 wasn't able to get a backtrace with debug symbols ?
[10:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45570 in xfig "xfig crash using arc drawing" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45570
[10:23] <neutrinomas1> I contacted upstream but they don't have access to any amd64 boxes so they need the debug symbols ...
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82345 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0 crashes when typing in the Google Search Bar on Google Homepage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82345
[10:27] <bdmurray> neutrinomas1: I have an amd64 bit box and could try and recreate it
[10:30] <bdmurray> wow, that's neat
[10:32] <coNP> bdmurray: okay I guess we call upstream config script (vmware-config.pl)
[10:32] <coNP> bdmurray: that is not aware of being executed by ...
[10:32] <coNP> therefore I would suggest to reject bug against synaptic and file against vmware-player
[10:33] <coNP> another question if upstream script should be modified, but for me it seems there is no bug in synaptic
[10:34] <bdmurray> coNP: you can just change the product, no need to reject it
[10:34] <coNP> bdmurray: sure, okay
[10:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82357 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gaim_signal_emit_vargs()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82357
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82356 in serpentine (main) "[apport]  serpentine crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82356
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82338 in scribus (main) "[apport]  scribus crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82338
[10:38] <coNP> bdmurray: should I confirm it?
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82342 in passivetex (main) "Please remove from the archives" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82342
[10:40] <bdmurray> coNP: yes, you could and put in all you have learned. and maybe answer Michael's question if possible
[10:41] <neutrinomas1> bdmurray: (sorry, was away) Please try to get a backtrace if you can ... author seems to be keen on fixing this (responded in about 5 minutes! )
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82339 in scribus (main) "[apport]  scribus crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 82338)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82339
[10:42] <bdmurray> neutrinomas1: okay
[10:49] <coNP> bdmurray: for fixing this bug, I guess this config script should be modified to use debconf, however I am not sure if we are allowed to do this
[11:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82358 in gimp (main) "Gimp crashes when filechooser contents are changed by nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82358
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82360 in swfdec0.3 (universe) "swfplayer crashes on Edgy Eft (ppc)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82360
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82361 in totem (main) "Subtitles look crap with default totem deinterlace method." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82361
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82364 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82364
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82365 in lyx (universe) "Please compile with assertion checking turned off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82365
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82366 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "In Ubuntu Edgy: Screensavers in OpenGL with nvidia-glx hangs system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82366
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82367 in Ubuntu "feisty amd64 desktop-live corrupts vmnat service in vmware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82367
[11:12] <bdmurray> neutrinomas1: xfig with debugging symbols is not readily available
[11:13] <neutrinomas1> bdmurray: Any idea why? Does it crash in a library ?
[11:14] <bdmurray> http://pastebin.com/871574
[11:14] <bdmurray> has the gdb trace w/o debug symbols
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82370 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82370
[11:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82371 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crash File Size View" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82371
[11:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82372 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (main) "Problem with XVideo on sis 620 (530)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82372
[11:35] <TheMuso> bug 59531
[11:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59531 in gnome-desktop "Add a 'Quit Orca' button" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/59531
[11:48] <bdmurray> sfllaw: ping
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82376 in Ubuntu "black screen during a .ram play" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82376