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| MitchM | /away at home. | 12:58 |
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| jenda | So - do we do a Vista anti-release party? :) | 09:08 |
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| rjian | :) | 09:16 |
| jenda | vorian_: you there? | 09:20 |
| jenda | meatballhat_: ? | 09:20 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yo | 09:24 |
| === BHSPitMonkey just posted a youtube video :D | ||
| jenda | BHSPitMonkey: link? :) | 09:35 |
| BHSPitMonkey | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GeYedGR1fiM | 09:35 |
| BHSPitMonkey | it's not *buntu related btw | 09:35 |
| BHSPitMonkey | or anything related | 09:36 |
| jenda | Hahha :) | 09:44 |
| jenda | that's awesome. | 09:44 |
| jenda | is that you? :) | 09:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yeah :P | 09:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | teachers are so unappreciative of that form of music, you know. | 09:45 |
| BHSPitMonkey | they're outright rude. | 09:45 |
| jenda | heh e:) | 09:45 |
| jenda | You a musician? | 09:49 |
| jenda | (other than pencil music :)) | 09:49 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yeah | 09:50 |
| BHSPitMonkey | piano, percussion | 09:50 |
| GazzaK | hehe http://youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=ICoDFooBXpU | 09:50 |
| BHSPitMonkey | damnit | 09:51 |
| BHSPitMonkey | it's 18+ flagged :( | 09:51 |
| jenda | BHSPitMonkey: no doubt, it's GazzaK's. | 09:51 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | cool | 09:52 |
| jenda | GazzaK: that's evil :) | 09:54 |
| GazzaK | it is only super mario in vice city, was so funny | 09:56 |
| GazzaK | :-) | 09:56 |
| GazzaK | great bit of animation | 09:56 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I like the animation vs animator thing | 09:59 |
| jenda | oh, that one rocks :) | 10:00 |
| BHSPitMonkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo1d6ttbAq8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPMwAHdJCg | 10:02 |
| BHSPitMonkey | 1 and 2, respectively | 10:02 |
| GazzaK | those are brill | 10:11 |
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| poningru | anyone know how to build modules? | 11:16 |
| poningru | http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=139&category=driver&os=3&go=GO# | 11:17 |
| poningru | frackers | 11:17 |
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| fsfadnfda3er23c | anyone here? | 12:04 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I've a suggestion for Ubuntu marketing | 12:05 |
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| fsfadnfda3er23c | ?? | 12:07 |
| tonyyarusso | fsfadnfda3er23c: Best bet would be to send it to the mailing list. More people will see it there. | 12:08 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | do I need to subscribe? | 12:08 |
| juliux | hi | 12:09 |
| tonyyarusso | Not to send to it, but it would be the easiest way to see replies. | 12:09 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | mmm | 12:09 |
| === fsfadnfda3er23c is too lazy :o) | ||
| tonyyarusso | Sometimes people just add a note that they're not subscribed, so CC them on replies. | 12:09 |
| tonyyarusso | Hi juliux | 12:10 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | maybe it's easier if you forward my idea? | 12:10 |
| tonyyarusso | That could work | 12:10 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | the idea is related to Windows Vista :) | 12:10 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 12:11 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I heard people telling about the WOW factor of the interface on the radio...but when I read an article about Vista in the paper this morning, I saw the prices...WOW :D | 12:11 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | maybe Ubuntu can do something with these prices... | 12:12 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I thought about this: | 12:12 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | what about doing some donation program for Ubuntu 7.04 | 12:12 |
| snail | fsfadnfda3er23c: the price thing is less important than the fact that people have to "refresh" their hardware | 12:13 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | people can *buy* Ubuntu cdroms for the same prices as Windows Vista | 12:13 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I know | 12:13 |
| snail | fsfadnfda3er23c: very little six month old hardware meets the recommended spec for vista | 12:13 |
| tonyyarusso | Who would pay for Ubuntu? | 12:14 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I people buy Ubuntu for 279 EUR, they will be a "Home Basic donator", when they give 549 EUR, they will be an "Ultimate Edition donator" etc | 12:14 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | of course you can also get it for free | 12:14 |
| tonyyarusso | Also, the terms would likely be trademark sketchy. | 12:14 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | th thing is that this is a marketing action ;) | 12:15 |
| snail | tonyyarusso: we regularly pay for ubuntu | 12:15 |
| tonyyarusso | snail: For support you mean. | 12:15 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | the point at how expensive Vista is compared to Ubuntu :) | 12:15 |
| snail | tonyyarusso: we buy hundreds of CDs at ~ a euro each | 12:15 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | the press will love to write about such a program B-) | 12:15 |
| tonyyarusso | snail: ah. | 12:15 |
| snail | tonyyarusso: we == http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/ | 12:16 |
| tonyyarusso | fsfadnfda3er23c: Who are you targeting with this? | 12:16 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm not sure I see how it would work. | 12:16 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | the money then can be used for doing even more promotion for Ubuntu B-) | 12:16 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | tonyyarusso: what do you mean? | 12:16 |
| tonyyarusso | fsfadnfda3er23c: As in, how many people do you honestly think will want to plunk down $400? | 12:17 |
| snail | fsfadnfda3er23c: and what sort of people | 12:17 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | the people that now use Paypal to donate money :) | 12:18 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | but that is not the main target | 12:18 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | collecting money would be the secondary target | 12:18 |
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| fsfadnfda3er23c | the primary targets would be to make end users clair how cheap Ubuntu is compared to Vista, plus to have more publicity for Ubuntu 7.04 in press B-) | 12:19 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | do you get it? | 12:20 |
| tonyyarusso | But how? How would asking people to pay the same amount help hilight the fact that Ubuntu isn't the same amount? | 12:20 |
| tonyyarusso | And, the idea of it going in the press has a lot of room for misrepresentation, and could actually be a bad thing, imo. | 12:21 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I don't think so | 12:22 |
| tonyyarusso | snail: thoughts? | 12:22 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | you should make clear that this is about donations of course | 12:22 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | and that people still can get it for free | 12:22 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | just some idea to lift on Microsoft's marketing campaign ;) | 12:23 |
| snail | tonyyarusso: at the moment what ubuntu needs is not cash but well organised effort | 12:23 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 12:23 |
| jenda | fsfadnfda3er23c: you should really email it to the list for some more organised feedback. | 12:24 |
| === fsfadnfda3er23c is too lazy to do that | ||
| snail | if we can make a clear effort that we need cash to do X, then I'm sure that that money would be found... | 12:24 |
| snail | fsfadnfda3er23c: so you want us to do your work for you? | 12:24 |
| === fsfadnfda3er23c was just contributing an idea | ||
| jenda | Thanks, fsfadnfda3er23c :) | 12:25 |
| === fsfadnfda3er23c also does not bother if Ubuntu people don't take advantage of ideas ;) | ||
| jenda | However, our deficit isn't in ideas, it's in workforce. | 12:25 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | so now it's up to you :) | 12:25 |
| jenda | fsfadnfda3er23c: wrong. | 12:25 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I know | 12:25 |
| jenda | It's up to you. | 12:26 |
| jenda | Ideas don't do any work. | 12:26 |
| === fsfadnfda3er23c already contributes for other open source projects | ||
| jenda | If you have an idea - make it real. Only then will it have value. | 12:26 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | and I've no time to work out all my ideas ;) | 12:26 |
| jenda | I'm not saying you need to make it real yourself - you can assemble a team. | 12:26 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | well, anyway: I just don't bother to make value of it; if Ubuntu does nothing with my idea, that's ok for me If they do something cool with it, that's also ok for me | 12:28 |
| jenda | alright, thanks for the contribution. | 12:28 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | I just don't have time to contribute more to this idea :) | 12:28 |
| jenda | I think I'm too lazy to think about it further, though. | 12:28 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | :p | 12:29 |
| fsfadnfda3er23c | well, dinner is ready here, so bye | 12:29 |
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| tonyyarusso | Hm. That was one of the odder ideas. | 12:31 |
| snail | i've seen worse. | 12:34 |
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| tito_linux | Hi | 07:00 |
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| rbs-tito | hi | 08:11 |
| Burgwork | welcome rbs-tito | 08:12 |
| rbs-tito | Cheers! I've just joined the team. | 08:12 |
| jenda | welcome ;) | 08:13 |
| jenda | hey Burgwork | 08:14 |
| Burgwork | hey jenda | 08:14 |
| rbs-tito | I've been reading the wiki, did anything come of those surveys | 08:14 |
| rbs-tito | ? | 08:14 |
| Burgwork | they are currently in elkbuntu's hands | 08:14 |
| rbs-tito | Have they been analysed and what-not yet? | 08:15 |
| Burgwork | I don't think so | 08:17 |
| Burgwork | we might be able to get them from her, to do the analysis | 08:17 |
| Burgwork | elkbuntu: you are delivering up your surveys to somebody so that we can parse them | 08:17 |
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