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[09:20] meatballhat_: ? [09:24] yo === BHSPitMonkey just posted a youtube video :D [09:35] BHSPitMonkey: link? :) [09:35] http://youtube.com/watch?v=GeYedGR1fiM [09:35] it's not *buntu related btw [09:36] or anything related [09:44] Hahha :) [09:44] that's awesome. [09:44] is that you? :) [09:44] yeah :P [09:45] teachers are so unappreciative of that form of music, you know. [09:45] they're outright rude. [09:45] heh e:) [09:49] You a musician? [09:49] (other than pencil music :)) [09:50] yeah [09:50] piano, percussion [09:50] hehe http://youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=ICoDFooBXpU [09:51] damnit [09:51] it's 18+ flagged :( [09:51] BHSPitMonkey: no doubt, it's GazzaK's. === jenda plays piano and sax [09:52] cool [09:54] GazzaK: that's evil :) [09:56] it is only super mario in vice city, was so funny [09:56] :-) [09:56] great bit of animation [09:59] I like the animation vs animator thing [10:00] oh, that one rocks :) [10:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo1d6ttbAq8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPMwAHdJCg [10:02] 1 and 2, respectively [10:11] those are brill === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === yama` is now known as yama === poningru is crying right now [11:16] anyone know how to build modules? 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[12:05] I've a suggestion for Ubuntu marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:07] ?? [12:08] fsfadnfda3er23c: Best bet would be to send it to the mailing list. More people will see it there. [12:08] do I need to subscribe? [12:09] hi [12:09] Not to send to it, but it would be the easiest way to see replies. [12:09] mmm === fsfadnfda3er23c is too lazy :o) [12:09] Sometimes people just add a note that they're not subscribed, so CC them on replies. [12:10] Hi juliux [12:10] maybe it's easier if you forward my idea? [12:10] That could work [12:10] the idea is related to Windows Vista :) [12:11] ah [12:11] I heard people telling about the WOW factor of the interface on the radio...but when I read an article about Vista in the paper this morning, I saw the prices...WOW :D [12:12] maybe Ubuntu can do something with these prices... [12:12] I thought about this: [12:12] what about doing some donation program for Ubuntu 7.04 [12:13] fsfadnfda3er23c: the price thing is less important than the fact that people have to "refresh" their hardware [12:13] people can *buy* Ubuntu cdroms for the same prices as Windows Vista [12:13] I know [12:13] fsfadnfda3er23c: very little six month old hardware meets the recommended spec for vista [12:14] Who would pay for Ubuntu? [12:14] I people buy Ubuntu for 279 EUR, they will be a "Home Basic donator", when they give 549 EUR, they will be an "Ultimate Edition donator" etc [12:14] of course you can also get it for free [12:14] Also, the terms would likely be trademark sketchy. [12:15] th thing is that this is a marketing action ;) [12:15] tonyyarusso: we regularly pay for ubuntu [12:15] snail: For support you mean. [12:15] the point at how expensive Vista is compared to Ubuntu :) [12:15] tonyyarusso: we buy hundreds of CDs at ~ a euro each [12:15] the press will love to write about such a program B-) [12:15] snail: ah. [12:16] tonyyarusso: we == http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/ [12:16] fsfadnfda3er23c: Who are you targeting with this? [12:16] I'm not sure I see how it would work. [12:16] the money then can be used for doing even more promotion for Ubuntu B-) [12:16] tonyyarusso: what do you mean? [12:17] fsfadnfda3er23c: As in, how many people do you honestly think will want to plunk down $400? [12:17] fsfadnfda3er23c: and what sort of people [12:18] the people that now use Paypal to donate money :) [12:18] but that is not the main target [12:18] collecting money would be the secondary target === tonyyarusso is confused [12:19] the primary targets would be to make end users clair how cheap Ubuntu is compared to Vista, plus to have more publicity for Ubuntu 7.04 in press B-) [12:20] do you get it? [12:20] But how? How would asking people to pay the same amount help hilight the fact that Ubuntu isn't the same amount? [12:21] And, the idea of it going in the press has a lot of room for misrepresentation, and could actually be a bad thing, imo. [12:22] I don't think so [12:22] snail: thoughts? [12:22] you should make clear that this is about donations of course [12:22] and that people still can get it for free [12:23] just some idea to lift on Microsoft's marketing campaign ;) [12:23] tonyyarusso: at the moment what ubuntu needs is not cash but well organised effort [12:23] hehe :) [12:24] fsfadnfda3er23c: you should really email it to the list for some more organised feedback. === fsfadnfda3er23c is too lazy to do that [12:24] if we can make a clear effort that we need cash to do X, then I'm sure that that money would be found... [12:24] fsfadnfda3er23c: so you want us to do your work for you? === fsfadnfda3er23c was just contributing an idea [12:25] Thanks, fsfadnfda3er23c :) === fsfadnfda3er23c also does not bother if Ubuntu people don't take advantage of ideas ;) [12:25] However, our deficit isn't in ideas, it's in workforce. [12:25] so now it's up to you :) [12:25] fsfadnfda3er23c: wrong. [12:25] I know [12:26] It's up to you. [12:26] Ideas don't do any work. === fsfadnfda3er23c already contributes for other open source projects [12:26] If you have an idea - make it real. Only then will it have value. [12:26] and I've no time to work out all my ideas ;) [12:26] I'm not saying you need to make it real yourself - you can assemble a team. [12:28] well, anyway: I just don't bother to make value of it; if Ubuntu does nothing with my idea, that's ok for me If they do something cool with it, that's also ok for me [12:28] alright, thanks for the contribution. [12:28] I just don't have time to contribute more to this idea :) [12:28] I think I'm too lazy to think about it further, though. [12:29] :p [12:29] well, dinner is ready here, so bye === fsfadnfda3er23c [n=sander@d54C27CF1.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === jenda sighs [12:31] Hm. That was one of the odder ideas. [12:34] i've seen worse. === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === meatballhat [n=dbuch@unaffiliated/meatballhat] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["puppies] === poland_ [n=mdranta@wnpgmb01dc2-135-34.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === elkbuntu reads scrollback and chuckles === Vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B26E99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM [n=MitchM@63.78.48.5] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === poland__ [n=mdranta@wnpgmb01dc2-108-101.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poland_ [n=mdranta@wnpgmb01dc2-108-101.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tito_linux [n=tito@host86-128-219-33.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:00] Hi === tito_linux is now known as rbs === rbs is now known as rbs-tito === juliux [n=juliux@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === vorian_ [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gorg [n=gorg@195.159.148.248] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === gorg [n=gorg@195.159.148.248] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [08:11] hi [08:12] welcome rbs-tito [08:12] Cheers! I've just joined the team. [08:13] welcome ;) [08:14] hey Burgwork [08:14] hey jenda [08:14] I've been reading the wiki, did anything come of those surveys [08:14] ? [08:14] they are currently in elkbuntu's hands [08:15] Have they been analysed and what-not yet? 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