=== kiko is now known as kiko-fud === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121dff.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-131-199.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === barry is now known as barry-away === mdz [n=mdz@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ is now known as mpt === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has left #launchpad [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [01:06] karma is messed up again if not already known i went from over 1.3 million to 10489 over night. [01:06] im not the only one === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #launchpad [01:10] i had right at 900,000-1 million before edgys release how is this right? [01:11] gnomefreak, see the channel topic [01:12] gosh, I really like the new numbers, I guess it's just me :/ [01:12] mpt: We just read that. It still doesn't seem right according to what that claims was the problem. [01:12] right [01:13] mpt: interesting, it has greatly changed +topcontributors for a couple of projects [01:13] tonyyarusso, can you give an example? [01:14] mpt: Well, I don't have the exact numbers, but gnomefreak, PriceChild, and I all believe we had substantially more points in October than we do now, regardless of what happened in between. Additionally, gnomefreak and I can both confirm that our karmas were holding steady in recent weeks, not increasing dramatically as would have been the case. [01:15] LaserJock: you still looked at your karma? [01:15] tonyyarusso, remember that karma decays over time [01:16] mpt: yeah, it's definately done more than just compensate for Oct-Jan === ajmitch wonders if there needs to be a disclaimer about karma, saying how it doesn't really mean anything [01:16] So if your karma was holding steady recently, that might have been a combination of both the Oct~Jan ballooning, and the decay of karma you earned before October. [01:16] mpt: Right. Probably the most significant thing is the appearance of being steady recently. Was it locked after the problem was discovered or anything like that? [01:16] you sure they didn't Log() it or something [01:16] mpt: ah, that would make some sense [01:16] Cancelling each other out. [01:17] mpt: afaik karma has been non-increasing for everyone the past week or so [01:17] ok, but I went from almost 2 million to 4208 overnight [01:17] mpt: Still, it seems like a pretty drastic adjustment. I went from something on the order of a bit over 1,250,000 to 2476, so it raises some flags. [01:17] that seems a bit more than some compensation [01:17] The people who know most about karma are salgado and stub [01:18] so you may want to talk about it with one of them, when they're around [01:18] All right. Just hoping we haven't introduced a new bug or something. === LarstiQ went from 400k to 2829 === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === kiko-fud is now known as kiko-zzz [01:43] mpt: hmm... i thought the 1-0-ui branch rolled out automatically at 23:00 UTC? [01:43] was hoping to see all the new fixes before crashing :-) [01:43] LaserJock: i think they did log it [01:44] I was hoping for a Log, I think it's a good way to get new people excited without making things unreadable [01:45] unless of course your sabdfl and you should have infinite karma ;-) [01:45] in my life, there's good karma, and there's not-so-good karma :-) [01:45] dat's livin' [01:45] hmm [01:45] we haven't introduced negative karma [01:45] that would be fun ;-) [01:45] New bug: #82389 in soyuz "Store the person who signed the changes file in an upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82389 [01:46] night kiko-zzz [01:50] LaserJock: you mean upload a package with bugs? [01:51] or filing a duplicate? === LarstiQ was just talking about tagging revisions as 'introduces-buffer-overflow' === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.198.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [01:58] sabdfl, there was one pagetest failure that I've now fixed, now I'm merging conflicts with salgado's work [02:00] ajmitch: for what? [02:01] LaserJock: negative karma :) [02:02] heh [02:02] I thought we could give doko -5 every time he backlogs the buildd with OO.o ;-) === ctrlsoft [n=jelmer@cl-710.ams-01.nl.sixxs.net] has joined #launchpad [02:06] New bug: #82391 in rosetta "Denemo name in menu Spanish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82391 === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-177.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-135-136.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-136.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === distro-tester [n=KVIrc@213-140-16-177.fastres.net] has joined #launchpad [03:22] mpt: ping? === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad [03:49] Hello... is something wrong with karma??? or was there something wrong with Karma? [03:49] :D [03:52] see topic [03:53] cool [03:54] the second then :D [03:54] sorr for not reading the topic [03:59] hello jamesh [04:01] mpt: yesterday Hobsee filed a bug about confusion relating to the way we display dates/times (bug 82230) === mpt pokes production with a stick [04:01] Malone bug 82230 in pytz "Time zone abbreviations can cause confusion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82230 [04:02] it turns out that she assumed that the "EST" at the ends of the dates meant we were using US time rather than Australian EST (which she had selected) [04:02] mpt: what do you think of using numeric time zone names instead, or maybe even no time zone names? === gouki [n=gouki@unaffiliated/gouki] has joined #launchpad [04:03] Hi. I had a major lost of karma points. ~70000 to 5000. Can anyone provide any information of why this happened? [04:03] gouki: see topic [04:04] jamesh: Sorry [04:04] Thank you [04:04] gouki: no problem :) [04:04] jamesh: So NOW the karma is correct [04:05] jamesh, definitely, if it is at all common for more than one timezone to have the same abbreviation [04:06] mpt: they definitely aren't unique identifiers [04:06] gouki: yep. I don't have 2 million karma either now :) [04:06] jamesh: Hehehe! [04:06] so how much karma do I need to level up? [04:07] jml: now or before? [04:07] now, I guess. [04:07] jml: 2 million [04:07] hahaha [04:07] 'Level up'? [04:08] gouki: it's an RPG term. [04:09] ooh, that's an idea [04:09] gouki: for way too much information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_up [04:09] Get 10000 karma, and you get to use Launchpad Pro [04:10] jml: Thank you. I was not aware of this. [04:10] Can I find out more information regarding Launchpad Pro? [04:11] mpt: excellent, I've only got a couple of thousand to go! === mpt hides === ajmitch hopes it's nice & shiny [04:13] Vaporware always is [04:14] argh, kiko, where's your patch? [04:15] mpt: the beta isn't vapour though :) [04:17] Nor is it shiny, yet === mpt gets to work applying shininess === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-16-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-16-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-16-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad [04:58] lol @ launchpad pro... is that for reall? [04:58] effie_jayx: I can neither confirm or deny the existence of Launchpad Pro [04:59] ohhh god... [04:59] :S [04:59] actually, I can deny the existence :) [05:00] the secret is to deny everything [05:01] ajmitch: we deny that that is the secret [05:01] heh [05:02] well [05:02] sounds very corporate... to ad a pro... [05:02] :S [05:03] what next.. launchpad home edition [05:03] :D [05:03] I was thinking Launchpad XP [05:03] and how many new spells do you get when you level up [05:03] LOL [05:03] radix, lol [05:03] radix: depends on your class [05:04] that's what I need, more "bug-b-gone" powers [05:05] radix: a cross-class translator / hacker might get three more spells and an extra attack per round [05:05] dang, I am probably only a bug wrangler, according to my karma page. [05:05] with like one level in spec writing [05:07] radix, it is rumoured that launchpad pro is used by google (just to keep the ball rolling) [05:34] effie_jayx: I thought that was Goopad? ;-) [05:34] I give up... [05:34] :S [05:35] effie_jayx: radix probably isn't the one to spread rumours to [05:36] effie_jayx: the closest thing I've heard to that rumour is Google having a customised version of Ubuntu (which they do -- they've got customised versions of every distro they use internally) [05:37] jamesh, :D === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === FaDhLy [n=kudun@222.124.193.3] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.15.14.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-231-245-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === gouki [n=gouki@unaffiliated/gouki] has left #launchpad [] === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@pub082136116166.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #launchpad [09:14] hello [09:17] Where can I report a LP bug? [09:19] Under products > lp in malone I'd imagine. [09:20] :-) [09:22] thanks tonyyarusso [09:22] yw === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #launchpad ["Bye!"] === carlos [n=carlos@62.87.56.212] has joined #launchpad [09:52] morning === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #launchpad === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #launchpad === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #launchpad ["Bye!"] === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-215.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [10:14] A query how do I add a spec for a meta-package for westnoth-all for gnome-app-install please? [10:17] don't add specs for small details like that [10:17] having a zillion of specs for every wishlist is not the right way to do ;) [10:17] open a wishlist on gnome-app-install [10:18] seb128: how please === carlos__ [n=carlos@62.87.58.213] has joined #launchpad [10:18] davmor2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+filebug [10:19] seb128: A wealth of knowledge, many thanks [10:19] np === jml [n=jml@ppp106-67.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad [10:30] Alas, another confusion between the bug tracker and the spec tracker [10:30] :-) === mrevell [n=matthew@e190084.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #launchpad [10:32] mpt: Sorry? [10:35] stub around? === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #launchpad [] [10:38] mpt: iirc, h2 is what we use for in-page subheadings, right? === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [10:40] if so, could we give it a bit of space-above? it always seems those headings are jammed agains the text above them [10:41] sabdfl: yes === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-88-15-138.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@e190084.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #launchpad [10:46] sabdfl, 0.5em added. [10:46] thanks mpt - looking forward to 23:00 :-) [10:47] As in, 12 hours from now? [10:48] ddaa: what's the difference between syncing and mirroring? [10:48] trying to understand productseries.date_published_sync [10:48] depends on the context [10:48] mpt: yes [10:48] ha [10:49] oh, the rollout to beta === mpt was thinking of the conference call [10:49] sabdfl: in this context, synced means "importd updated the internal import branch", and mirrored mean "the internal branch was published on the supermirror" [10:49] What's being rolled out to beta? Some major change? [10:50] Fujitsu, no, just some shiny new hotness [10:50] Sounds good. [10:51] the best way to described date_published_sync, I think, is "the time the currently published branch was synced, at the time the internal branch was last synced" [10:51] best as in "shortest accurate" === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [11:01] ddaa: so this time effectively gives you the "age" of the published branch? [11:02] if importd_branch.last_mirrored < datelastsynced, yes [11:02] but if import_branch.last_mirrored > datelastsynced, then the age of the published branch is given by datelastsynced [11:03] s/importd_branch/import_branch/ [11:03] do we actually track the internal branch and the published branch as separate Branch objects? [11:03] so when the branch is synced, the last_mirrored timestamp is copied to the date_published_synced timestamp (?) [11:03] or is the internal branch just data on disk? === stu1 is now known as stub [11:05] ddaa: please walk me through this [11:05] stu1: no, when the branch is synced, the datelastsynced timestamp is copied to date_published_sync, IF datelastsynced gives us the age of the published branch [11:05] say we run a cscvs import run on an external SVN branch at 08h00 [11:05] what data gets updated? [11:06] sabdfl: importd pushes the cscvs-updated branch to escudero [11:06] to a special directory, related to the branch id? [11:06] sabdfl: yes [11:07] ok [11:07] and what db data is updated so we know when this happened? [11:07] so at this time we have a published branch on vostok, whose age is given by date_published_sync, and a branch on escudero whose age is given by datelastsynced [11:09] importd updates datelastsynced, and _maybe_ date_published_sync [11:09] Then the branch-puller scripts runs (independently of importd) [11:09] and copies the branch on escudero to the published area on vostok [11:09] are those both on ProductSeries? [11:10] both datelastsynced date_published_sync are on ProductSeries [11:10] what are the relevant columns in ProductSeries and Branch? [11:10] so ProductSeries.datelastsynced *always* reflects the date the last sync happened [11:10] After the branch puller update escudero, it sets import_branch.last_mirrored (on Branch) to UTC_NOW. [11:11] sabdfl: yes! [11:11] i thought the branch puller pulled FROM escudero, and updated vostok? [11:11] s/updates escudero/updates from escudero/ [11:12] s/updates from escudero/updates vostok from escudero/ === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad [11:12] ok [11:12] so [11:12] 1. importd sets datelastsynced [11:12] what is import_branch? [11:13] sabdfl: its a foreign key ProductSeries->Branch that associates the import to the branch updated by importd [11:13] ok. so that's ProductSeries.import_branch.last_mirrored [11:14] i.e. it's the branch on Vostok [11:14] yes [11:14] that tells us when the published branch was last copied from escudero to vostok [11:15] ok, i understand why importd would set ProductSeries.datelastsynced [11:15] and why the branch puller would set the Branch.last_mirrored [11:15] what is the purpose of the ProductSeries.date_published_sync? [11:15] so we have two data configurations: 1. the branches on vostok and escudero are identical 2. the branch on escudero is more recent [11:16] in case 1, the time of the upstream VCS that's reflected by the published branch is simply ProductSeries.datelastsynced [11:16] yes [11:17] But in case 2... we needed something more than ProductSeries.datelastsynced or Branch.last_mirrored [11:17] because last_mirrored is irrelevant to the user here, what matters is the "upstream VCS time" [11:17] still problem to download po and mo from launchpad, upto when this will fixed? === coNP [n=conp@pool-02690.externet.hu] has joined #launchpad [11:18] Bhaskar: At the moment I think there will be a rollout with the relevant fix in about 18 hours. === coNP [n=conp@pool-02690.externet.hu] has left #launchpad ["c-x] [11:19] stub:ok, so after 18 hrs we can access [11:20] Bhaskar: Yes. I'll be confirming the rollout shortly. [11:21] ok, i understandwhat you're trying to do here [11:21] essentially, for any given branch on escudero, then on vostok, you need to know what "point in time on CVS" it represents [11:22] so, Branch.last_mirrored is "supermirror time", and ProductSeries.datelastsynced and ProductSeries.date_published_sync are "upstream vcs time". [11:22] yes! [11:23] if datelastsynced was just "date_internal_branch_synced" and the other was "date_published_branch_synced" would that not be easier? [11:23] then you would always know to use "date_published_branch_synced" in the UI? [11:24] sabdfl: that would certainly be easier to explain, but that would require the branch-puller to update date_published_branch_synced (and give it perms to update the ProductSeries table) [11:24] what perms does it currently have? [11:25] and at time I wrote the code it was easier to _do_ it the way I did it === ddaa checks perms [11:26] sabdfl: actually, the branch puller only touches the DB through the authserver [11:27] RO? [11:27] write group [11:27] so if the branch puller is compromised by nasty "bzr" data, then it can modify the Person table? [11:28] not really [11:28] or is it limited to poking at the auth server? [11:28] yes, it has no direct db access [11:28] is that the deliberate design, that the branch puller should not have any db access? [11:28] ok [11:28] i'll have to think about this [11:28] but we give the importd direct database access? [11:28] it's a deliberate design decisions because of the security issue you just outlined [11:28] sabdfl: yes [11:29] and the importd is also pointing at potentially hostile data? [11:29] importd is talking to potentially hostile servers [11:30] so we gain no real security by keeping the branch puller away from the db [11:30] but maybe we should discuss the detailed security implications on a private channel :) === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [11:31] BjornT: hi, call? [11:32] SteveA: sure, i'm ready. i was just restarting X in order to get skype to work. === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has left #launchpad [] === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === ..[topic/#launchpad:mrevell] : Karma dropped? See https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaReductionJan07 - Developer meeting: Thu 1 Feb 2007, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.103.246.10] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:15] New bug: #82445 in launchpad "Launchpad karma's have been resetted." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82445 === silwol [n=silwol@dialup-122177.customers.etel.at] has joined #launchpad === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #launchpad === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has left #launchpad [] [12:25] ouch! didnt realise karma had dropped by *that* much!!! [12:29] *shrugs* Everybody is in the same boat. [12:33] Hobbsee, oojah: Have you seen the https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaReductionJan07 page? [12:33] Hobbsee: It's a good thing, honest :) [12:34] Hobbsee: It means that everybody's karma accurately reflects the work they've done === static [n=emurphy@194.18.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [12:34] Hobbsee: I'm sorry we ballsed it up for a while [12:34] hey static [12:35] hi there mrevell [12:36] mrevell: Yes I've seen it thanks. I'm not really worried to be honest :) I just wanted to point out to Hobbsee that although his karma had dropped lots, so had everybody elses so there shouldn't be much of a net change really. [12:37] oojah: her ;) [12:40] My apologies [12:40] aha :) [12:40] It's a bit of a shock to see your karma drop like that [12:40] but it's for a good reason :) [12:40] Now, next time something like that happens, we need to let you know beforehand... [12:40] heh [12:55] New bug: #82432 in launchpad "Double email notification after I approved a new team member" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82432 === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [12:59] mrevell: yeah, i know :) was just surprised [12:59] oojah: :) === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:15] New bug: #82407 in Ubuntu "Can anybody delete my launchpad account? (dup-of: 2773)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82407 === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === medders [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp106-67.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === medders_ [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad === medders_ is now known as medders === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === Pistahh [n=szekeres@caracas-2520.adsl.interware.hu] has joined #launchpad [02:16] hi [02:16] how can I find the bugs I created in launchpad? [02:19] Pistahh: https://launchpad.net/~yourlpname/+reportedbugs [02:20] Pistahh, go to your home page, by clicking on your name on the top right corner and there you'll see a 'Bugs' link on the left-hand menu === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [02:31] hello crackerjacks [02:32] salgado: that link goes to assigned bugs, not to reported bugs. [02:32] matsubara: thx, that works [02:33] Pistahh, right, then you have the 'Reported bugs' on the left menu === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [02:33] salgado: ah, really. Thanks. === Gwaihir is now known as Gwaihir_work [03:00] New bug: #82465 in launchpad "Track the date in which a person first become a member of a given team" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82465 === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:11] bye === Pistahh [n=szekeres@caracas-2520.adsl.interware.hu] has left #launchpad [] === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad [04:15] New bug: #82477 in malone "Assinging a bug re-sends it to people who have already received it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82477 [04:19] ass singing? === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [04:50] New bug: #82483 in launchpad-cscvs "svn_oo.WorkingTree.update does not ignore externals" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82483 === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #launchpad === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === niemeyer_ [n=niemeyer@201.11.40.119] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir_work is now known as Gwaihir [05:30] effie_jayx: you're now the owner of the lsm team === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.37.216] has joined #launchpad [05:34] sabdfl, thanks... I hope it wasn't a big mess :S [05:38] no, jesus was quite happy for you to have admin, though he recommended someone else (Max?) to be the owner of the team [05:38] hope this resolves those issues and lets you guys get on with good interesting work! [05:44] sabdfl, yep... thanks for the trust... I did chat with him... for a while... amicable mostly... thanks again === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-215.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === kNo` [n=kNo`@lab64-1-82-243-180-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [05:56] heya ll [05:58] yesterday, I had a 60000-ish karma score [05:59] now it's 2023 [05:59] :( [05:59] oh shit [05:59] I've read the topic [05:59] never mind [06:00] bye === kNo` [n=kNo`@lab64-1-82-243-180-186.fbx.proxad.net] has left #launchpad [] [06:07] :D how many a day??? I was one yesterday :D [06:10] New bug: #82498 in launchpad-support-tracker "Change search results message to use 'matches' instead of 'about'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82498 === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === kNo` [n=kNo`@i02v-62-34-120-240.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #launchpad === kNo` [n=kNo`@i02v-62-34-120-240.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #launchpad [] === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-074-010-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === logikon [n=daniel@201009099174.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [07:30] Goooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [07:30] Even those who pay attention to their karma! === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [07:33] mpt, thanks for the feedback and comments [07:33] mail sent with additional thoughts [07:33] the app home pages don'tlookanything like the mockups, which is what's driving me to re-evaluate [07:34] is this because we haven't put enough effort into the renderingin HTML? [07:34] or because the designs are impractical to render (hard to believe given Usman's background?) [07:34] hey.. i was willing to translate stuff to portuguese, but I after I registered the site didn't give me very clear instruction on how to proceed.. [07:34] sabdfl, what differences do you see between the Bugs front page and the OneZeroBugsPage mockup? [07:35] spacing, emphasis, imagery, content... where do you want me to start? [07:35] lots of little things that make the difference between pretty and ugly [07:36] though, much prettier than it was previously [07:36] still not slick [07:36] call tomorrow is to try and get that back on track [07:37] Well, nothing's slick yet, because there's a lot of CSS work left to do [07:37] but rearranging the contents of the pages won't really change that === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste === logikon [n=daniel@201009099174.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #launchpad [] === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=evalles@190.73.109.221] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93213f2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #launchpad [08:06] New bug: #82516 in launchpad "App buttons should be normal size on LP front page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82516 === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [08:27] SteveA, kiko-afk: Simon's poked me with a question about -commercial. It's currently being built by dak, so doesn't show up in Launchpad at all. [08:27] But now folks want to file bugs. =) === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.3.59] has joined #launchpad [08:31] hello jbailey, bug 58495 might interest you :) [08:31] Malone bug 58495 in soyuz "dapper-commercial packages are not represented in Launchpad" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58495 [08:32] matsubara: You're magic, dude. Thanks! =) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-215.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-142-102.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad [08:50] BjornT: around? [08:51] BjornT: do you have any idea on when the "apport bugs generate 9 mails" problem will be fixed? === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad [09:10] New bug: #82533 in launchpad-bazaar "Need to warn that bzr+ssh branches will not be mirrored" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82533 === barry [n=barry@216-15-33-253.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir is now known as Gwaihir_busy === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === Redmond [n=Miranda@vpn018043.uni-rostock.de] has joined #launchpad [09:41] hello. can someone tell me how to quit my lounchpad account? [09:42] Redmond, file a +ticket on the launchpad product. [09:43] is a ticket a bug report? [09:45] how can i do that? [09:45] Redmond, no, more like a help request. [09:45] here: [09:46] launchpad.net/launchpad/+addticket [09:46] Redmond, but everybody on #launchpad will miss you... === jkakar [n=jkakar@d66-183-122-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad [09:48] kiko, yes i know. but i have to change my name there. in dont want to be found by google by typing mey realname. thats a problem for me :( [09:48] Redmond, I can change your real name on launchpad for you [09:48] is that the only problem? [09:51] no im a little paraniod about that. i dont want leave any traces to my old account. so i want to register a very new. i hope you excuse that circumstances. but of course i will go on working on launchpad. "the intention counts" :) [09:52] Redmond, there are no traces if you change your name and ask google to reindex the page, seriously. === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.23.93] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-230.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === jag2kn [n=jag2kn@Dynamic-IP-cr20011873111.cable.net.co] has joined #launchpad [10:07] hi === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@91.64.1.199] has joined #launchpad [10:15] mpt: is it difficult to make the whole tab clickable? [10:16] sabdfl, should be a matter of making the a { display:block } [10:20] sabdfl, it's a little tricky to do that in a way that both (a) doesn't mess up the tab border and (b) still works for those tabs that don't contain links [10:20] (i.e. those tabs that aren't clickable for the current context) === Gwaihir_busy is now known as Gwaihir [10:21] mpt, can't you span { display:block } [10:21] It will involve fiddling with spans, probably [10:21] yes [10:21] ok [10:21] i think there's already a bug filed [10:22] yep [10:23] yeah === jkakar_ [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === jag2kn [n=jag2kn@Dynamic-IP-cr20011873111.cable.net.co] has left #launchpad [] === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [10:55] mpt: privmsg? [11:03] I can't access launchpad.net [11:03] is it down? [11:04] oops, now I can [11:04] wierd, a couple of ppl complained too, must of been a hicuo [11:04] hicup === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === hoarau [n=hoarau@AToulon-152-1-19-47.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === czedlitz [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #launchpad [11:34] ghost in the network [11:51] apparently. [11:51] sabdfl, responded to Claire's email. 17:00 GMT tomorrow is very good. === Rinchen = Joey Stanford [11:52] hey joey [11:52] super === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Trickser [n=sergio@p54A56A49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [12:13] anybody tried running lp on feisty? [12:13] we need lp-dependencies [12:13] and some code updates, it seems for python 2.5 [12:14] and postgres 8.2 === Trickser [n=sergio@p54A56A49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad