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mdkempt_: seems one can approve these things oneself01:01
mpt_mdke, I couldn't because as far as Launchpad knows I'm not involved :-)01:02
mdkehmm01:02
mdkesilly launchpad!01:02
mdkempt: so what do you have in mind in terms of presentation?01:02
mpthmmmmm01:06
mpttwo narrow columns01:06
mptI have no basis at all for saying this, but I feel that topics would be clicked more often if on the right01:07
mptand that would also be better flow for a sentence of instructions at the top left01:08
mdkeyou might be right. I noticed the other day that our mockup is staggeringly similar to the Windows XP help center01:08
mptit is?01:08
mptI thought theirs was horridly large and crowded01:08
mdkewell, the layout is basically the same01:08
mdketopics down the left, frequently asked questions and other resources in the body01:08
mpthuh, so it is01:09
mdkeanyway, I really hope Don will helpout with this patch and we can at least have something that works to build from01:09
mdkehttp://www.wellesley.edu/Computing/WinXP/images/help.jpg01:09
mptI was just looking at http://www.beansoftware.com/ASP.NET-Tutorials/images/Windows-XP-Help.jpg01:10
mptI wonder what determines the color scheme01:10
mdkethat's with themes turned off01:10
mptoh, probably Luna vs. Classic01:10
mdkewe also need to get people contributing a bit more. Right now the only people spamming the commit list are me and nixternal01:13
mptIs there now any legal problem with copying stuff from the wiki into the help?01:14
mdkempt: well, we haven't actually implemented the license change on the wiki yet. But really, it's never stopped us before01:15
mpt:-] 01:18
bdmurrayhowdy01:24
mdkehiya bdmurray01:24
bdmurrayI was thinking about maybe having some documentation about filing bugs for Feisty or using apport.01:26
mdkebdmurray: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs already?01:26
mdkeyou might be able to build on that01:27
bdmurrayokay, cool.  I think some documentation about apport would help too.01:28
mdkeyeah01:28
mdkeis there not some on the main wiki that can be pillaged?01:28
bdmurrayI wonder how many people actually view the chiark url about filing good bugs01:28
mdkevery few, probably. Better to have a few basic points in the text of the wiki page01:29
mdkebdmurray: you seem like an ideal person to have a look at bug 74555, by the way :) Are you able to help chase that up?01:29
UbugtuMalone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "SRU: [Edgy]  Upgraded documentation" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7455501:29
bdmurraymdke: heh, good one01:29
bdmurrayI can look at it01:29
mdkethanks, it shouldn't be controversial01:30
mdkeI have another sru I want to do, so getting that out the way would be helpful01:30
Burgworkbdmurray: how many QA people does Ubuntu have now?01:32
bdmurray2? we've doubled in size!01:32
bdmurrayI'm not clear on the quantity exactly though.01:33
bdmurrayIs there any talk of an update to the Ubuntu book?01:33
Burgworkyes, there will be an update01:34
BurgworkI (and others) are working on it right now01:34
Burgworkwhat about all your shiny interns?01:35
bdmurraythose are sfllaw's01:36
Burgworkah01:36
Burgworkyou don't get any?01:36
bdmurraynah, I might put my kids to work though01:36
nixternalI am in Ubuntu-QA, and I know Simon is and Daniel, so there are more than 2 :)01:36
Burgworknixternal: you ain't paid01:36
Burgworktalking Canonical QA people01:37
bdmurrayso I think there are 2 people whose primary duty is bug work / QA01:37
bdmurrayWhereas Daniel is mostly dev01:37
LaserJockdaniel's job is to look pretty and give hugs01:38
bdmurrayand smile01:38
LaserJockI don't know that I've seen such a smiley guy in my life01:38
bdmurraynor I01:39
nixternalahh01:40
mdkeJoker?01:45
mdkeeven he struggles to keep up with the Holbach though01:47
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: will * r3740 ubuntu/musicvideophotos/C/musicvideophotos.xml: Fixed "add applications" link caused by directory restructuring03:51
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quazarhey, what package do I need to install to get the man page for getnameinfo.304:32
quazaror better yet, how do I figure out the package name for myself?04:32
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mdkelinuxphotogeek: can you revert that last commit with the links? As per mailing list, we still need to discuss how to do the links, and I think we'll probably use another method; it will be easier to use sed to change them if they are all as they were09:21
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3741 ubuntu/musicvideophotos/C/musicvideophotos.xml: reverting Will's last commit10:40
mdkelinuxphotogeek: I've reverted it myself ^^10:41
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linuxphotogeekmdke: my misunderstanding11:37
mdkelinuxphotogeek: cool. If no one else replies to the relevant thread, we'll sort the links out soon11:37
linuxphotogeekI was wondering if there was some sort of docbook equivalent to DocumentRoot11:41
linuxphotogeekIt would eliminate all the ../../../../11:42
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mdkelinuxphotogeek: no, I don't think so. Docbook isn't really made for linking between files. But the type="help" url="ghelp" stuff should be a bit easier11:43

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